0:04 hi everyone it's amanda from the indigo
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0:15 i can find our great guest for tonight
0:18 i'm looking for you guys already know
0:20 this I'm looking for Lauren Graham I
0:29 think I see R see hey Lauren how are you
0:35 hi good good just their comments perfect
0:40 hi hi so how are you see you this got
0:42 pretty smoothly connecting like this we
0:48 did it I think I was live on the penguin
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0:53 minutes there you go
1:00 this free free content oh I just want to
1:02 give you a short introduction some of
1:05 you know Lauren from her role on the
1:07 Gilmore Girls but Lauren's resume is
1:09 actually quite diverse
1:12 she has three books one fiction to
1:16 nonfiction countless credits on film and
1:19 television theater journalism you've
1:21 done a lot of different things and today
1:23 she's here to chat with us a little bit
1:25 some about your books I have questions
1:26 about your books I have questions about
1:28 all kinds of things so I hope you're
1:44 spend a lot of time there and and just
1:46 missing being in bookstores and being
1:50 again I know I know it's no surprise
1:51 that in certain countries some of the
1:54 first businesses to open our bookstores
1:57 and people just seem so relieved to be
1:59 able to get back to their books and just
2:02 there's something very normalizing about
2:04 wandering around looking at books yes
2:06 you what are you reading right now what
2:08 do you have it your how many books do
2:10 you read up one so you like one in every
2:12 room type person or are you single
2:13 minded I have
2:16 I won't show you my bedside table but
2:18 it's stacks and stacks
2:21 I always remember as a kid my father had
2:24 like a huge sack of books by his bedside
2:25 and I always thought it was so strange
2:27 like why wouldn't you just read one book
2:30 and and then go on but now I'm like
2:33 sort of that person I just read um the
2:39 glass hotel Oh fantastic oh really yes
2:45 oh and your father so so original and I
2:48 don't know it was just really moving and
2:53 I was inspired by the writing I I just
2:56 read my dark Vanessa oh darling
3:00 heroin good worried I wasn't sure I was
3:02 ready to continue through with some of
3:04 the plot but Nana really kept me going
3:07 that was a gorgeous book and what an
3:11 ending don't give away of course no oh
3:19 well we do that somebody just measured
3:22 messaged me that they have a habit of
3:25 reading the end the last page of a book
3:27 which I just can't imagine why you would
3:29 do that to yourself but in this case it
3:34 was my book she was I guess saying that
3:36 she was gratified by the ending so now
3:38 she could go back and start it from the
3:40 beginning so whatever but the other
3:43 thing I have right now is that big
3:46 volume the best of Nora Ephron the most
3:52 which has fantastic and and kind of is
3:54 I'm turning and working on two things
3:57 right now and one is another book of
4:01 essays and so I've turned to her essays
4:03 which so many for the New York from New
4:06 Yorker oh yeah other publications are
4:09 just so New York specific and that's my
4:10 inspiration right now
4:12 do you ever be friendly wits do you read
4:15 her her as they haven't oh man laughs
4:18 that looked funny Jeff oh really really
4:20 worth it I the title of her collection
4:21 I'll get it to you after but you can't
4:23 remember it right now but okay man
4:26 really really good nice uh one of the
4:27 questions I wanted to
4:29 talk to you about it it's two of your
4:32 biggest roles have been as single moms
4:34 and you mentioned your dad earlier he's
4:37 actually the person who you said in one
4:39 of your articles was a real inspiration
4:41 for that relationship that you have with
4:43 your children when you play these roles
4:44 on television can you tell us a little
4:46 bit about your dad and what your
4:51 relationship is like now um my dad is
4:56 very funny guy and loves books and and
5:00 kind of gave that to me and we for a
5:02 chunk of time it was kind of just the
5:05 two of us and kind of by necessity he
5:10 just took me everywhere treated me like
5:13 you know not not not as another adult
5:17 but just kind of brought me along in in
5:19 this very matter-of-fact way there
5:21 wasn't a lot of coddling and I loved it
5:23 too I was very like I'm writing I'm
5:25 working on an essay right now now called
5:33 light light neglect what it was like but
5:36 but for whatever my particular
5:38 personality was it just really suited me
5:44 and and I just liked being on my own and
5:46 liked being going to do grown-up stuff
5:51 and yeah so my dad's just a very close
5:54 friend in a way and but and that never
5:57 that never jeopardized his authority
5:59 like I I'm very much wanted him to be
6:02 proud of me and pleased and and so it
6:05 wasn't like so that's what I would think
6:07 of in both of those characters but
6:12 especially Lorelei there's a fun in that
6:14 relationship there's a there's a real
6:16 true they're each other's favorite
6:19 person and I just I knew what that felt
6:23 like for ya for a great part of my
6:25 childhood and we're still very close we
6:27 know it never really went through and a
6:29 couple like teenage fits but we never
6:31 went through like a you know tough time
6:33 do you share books you read the same way
6:35 the two of you yes we were just texting
6:39 today because I sent him
6:42 I sent him it's called the big goodbye
6:44 it's that it's it's the making of
6:47 Chinatown by the author who wrote Fosse Oh
6:48 Oh
6:51 on which the series was based I'm
6:53 blanking on his names I love Sam Lawson
6:56 I think it's his name I would read I
6:57 don't even care if I'm interested in the
7:01 subject just anything by him my dad
7:03 really liked that and and then I just
7:05 turned him on to the Robert Galbraith
7:09 books oh yeah those yes he'll have a few
7:13 now yes he'll have a few but that's
7:16 people who don't know it's JK Rowling
7:19 writing under a pseudonym and it's an
7:22 adult series it's the kind of a thriller
7:24 series and there's they're so juicy and
7:27 just really fun yeah she's so talented
7:29 yeah and so when you're doing your
7:32 writing what type of writer are you are
7:34 you like in a dome of silence I'm the
7:37 same place all the time or even a cafe
7:38 where there's lots of noise and activity
7:41 what's like your ideal writing scenario
7:46 I like it's had to be just make it work
7:49 because so much especially last year I
7:51 was in Vancouver a lot I was working and
7:56 flying back and forth I I kind of have
7:58 it down now although I don't always do
8:01 it correctly but we have a new puppy and
8:06 part of that is has forced me to be more
8:10 organized and also get up early early so
8:15 I get up and I try to work out first and
8:18 then I sit down between like 10 and 12
8:22 and okay I give myself a little time
8:24 it's very it's very much like like
8:27 there's so much of raising this puppy
8:32 that reminds me of how I how hard it is
8:34 sometimes to focus because it's like
8:35 she's got to get it out first she's
8:37 gotta eat some sticks and bees and stuff
8:40 so hopefully Nepalese and and then
8:42 should like you can kind of focus but
8:44 that's me I'll like give myself 10
8:46 minutes to just you know do whatever on
8:49 the computer and then I've tried
8:52 everything I try a word count I've tried
8:55 you know just it's an amount of time and
8:57 one thing I thought was really
8:59 interesting a writer friend of mine said
9:01 we all have to stop when we sit down
9:04 saying look it's a it's the worst it's
9:07 so hard it's you know it's torture like
9:11 all those kinds of ways we tell
9:14 ourselves you know you're we talk
9:16 ourselves out of this being what it
9:19 should be which is at least at times a
9:23 somewhat joyous or flow you know an
9:25 experience of flow or creativity or
9:27 something that's positive and that's
9:31 been really helpful but I I'm actually
9:32 working on two things and that's also
9:35 been interesting because if I don't feel
9:38 like you would think it's harder but for
9:40 however my mind works if I don't feel
9:42 like working on one it feels like kind
9:47 of fun too and work on the other and so
9:50 I'm sort of enjoying doing both I guess
9:52 yes it's a little bit of a mind trick
9:54 right that you can tell yourself well
9:56 this other one is way more interesting
9:57 to me right now so I'll do this I think
10:00 we all try to kid make people feel like
10:02 it's a choice you know it makes you feel
10:04 like I love options which i think is
10:08 important when you hit a wall and that
10:10 feels like such a very different thing
10:12 than some of the big productions that
10:14 you've been involved in it would just be
10:17 a huge amount of people involved massive
10:18 team work where you're just kind of
10:21 integrated into a full cast and
10:24 production team that's one type of
10:26 creative work and then you have this
10:28 other kind of more solitary self
10:30 propelled writing that you have to do
10:32 and creative work do you have a
10:37 preference to one over the other I two
10:42 things one is I worked with a chef who
10:44 was a guest star on Gilmore Girls on the
10:48 revival named Roy Troy who who is such a
10:52 great guy I love his food but he said
10:54 you know he'd never been on a set before
10:57 and he said he said you know it it
10:59 reminds me of being in the kitchen
11:03 because it's a very solitary I'm in
11:05 charge of what I'm in charge of but we
11:06 all have to work
11:09 together so I love that and especially
11:11 on these last two jobs I did in
11:14 Vancouver I'd forgotten what an
11:18 incredible support system and family
11:20 truly if you end it with a great group
11:23 which both of these jobs were it gives
11:26 you so much it gives you so much just
11:31 love and community and and that's really
11:35 wonderful but I do also feel that in a
11:40 time like this I it makes me so thankful
11:44 that I have something that I can work on
11:47 that feels productive and feels like you
11:49 know I'm still connected to the
11:54 professional world and I feel really
11:58 grateful to to have that other
12:01 possibility it's been one of the things
12:04 I'd really loved watching in these very
12:07 homebound times is how quickly a lot of
12:09 the cultural institutions kind of put
12:12 their hands up to say we want you to
12:14 stay connected you know here's a virtual
12:16 tour of our museum and here's a free
12:18 concert and here's access to all of this
12:22 art and there's something that feels a
12:24 bit like a bomb - being alone when you
12:28 have access to all of this art and and I
12:30 wonder if that's going to carry forward
12:33 after this if that kind of access and
12:35 connection is something that once we're
12:37 on the other side of this whatever
12:40 version of on the other side looks like
12:42 will there be a deeper connection to
12:44 these artistic institutions because they
12:47 really they came into our homes with us
12:48 which I think it's just been amazing
12:52 well how many people do you know who are
12:55 you know been rewatching The Sopranos or
12:57 binge-watching something or you know
13:01 it's if we didn't have I what I hope is
13:04 that it reminds those in charge of money
13:08 that you know how how important the arts
13:13 are and yeah and and also you know just
13:18 just that arts are we wouldn't have you
13:19 know here you see all these
13:21 companies worried about running out of
13:23 content you know running out of shows
13:27 for people because yeah it's really been
13:30 such a it's been a small bright spot in
13:33 a yeah and in that idea that you know
13:36 there's some nostalgia like a comfort
13:37 that comes from watching things that
13:38 you've seen before
13:41 there's dedicating time to it having the
13:44 time and the ability to do it right now
13:46 and I guess all these streaming services
13:48 make it so possible to get access to
13:50 this are you are you binge watching
13:51 anything right now or what is something
13:53 that you watched beginning to end
13:55 recently we are a hundred and fifty
13:58 years old and we love jeopardy and one
14:09 of my Wow well it's it's you know these
14:11 are just some of our your other snow
14:14 shows too but part of our ritual is
14:16 because we're competitive and my
14:18 boyfriend tonight so we and and and we
14:22 both have bizarre pockets of trivia that
14:25 are in our brains and so that that's
14:28 like that's sort of like the you know
14:34 prelude to the to the evenings viewing
14:37 we've been hopping around and kind of
14:39 trying new things we watch some of
14:41 Hollywood we watch there's this new show
14:44 on Amazon Prime we switched the first
14:48 episode of upload and and then we've
14:52 kind of been getting into like older
14:54 just went through a bunch of Kevin
14:56 Costner movies from the 90s you know
14:59 like just kind of some I think that
15:03 nostalgia for just kind of a simple plot
15:06 you know you know who done it kind of
15:11 yeah that and the feels comforting
15:15 somehow and I think you know as I've
15:16 been doing some reading and in preparing
15:19 to speak with you a lot of people who
15:21 could have never encountered the Gilmore
15:23 Girls when it was on air have
15:25 encountered it in this streaming world
15:29 and you've and the whole world has
15:31 connected with the new generation that
15:33 would not have been possible I think in
15:33 the same
15:35 way before the streaming the streaming
15:37 service and and that's so interesting
15:38 cuz that's a brand new connection for
15:40 your books as well right like a whole
15:45 new generation yes well the show the
15:50 show always or it had started to have
15:52 sort of a the next generation was
15:55 watching it and that was bizarre enough
15:59 because I know you know I grew up
16:01 watching certain like the Brady Bunch or
16:03 something which was a show that wasn't
16:05 on when I was watching any reruns
16:07 yeah it just you'd ever know it had
16:10 never occurred to me that something that
16:14 I technically was finished would live on
16:19 it's very and I have now it's I have two
16:22 dear friends whose whose daughters I've
16:25 known for since they were born who just
16:30 got into it and it's so strange because
16:33 now they're now they like treat me
16:37 differently and I'm like one of them got
16:39 like the corduroy jacket with the fleece
16:41 inside like Laurel I had and like it's
16:45 no sweet but I also feel bad that you
16:47 know they can't just I can't just that
16:49 can't just exist for them in the
16:51 fictional space that then they have to
16:55 you know see me in real life because I
16:57 don't know whatever so that you could
16:59 never predict it and yes streaming
17:02 changed everything and enamine it
17:04 changed not just for my show but it
17:07 changed how we view things now people
17:10 wait you know to until they have a bunch
17:15 of episodes to watch and it's you but I
17:16 guess again
17:20 another I think we're lucky in this time
17:23 to have but I'd like to go to a
17:29 restaurant but is there a show that you
17:31 would like to see a reunion season for
17:34 or a reunion show something that you
17:42 love selfishly selfishly Parenthood I I
17:45 think would be you know because part of the
17:46 the
17:49 part of when when the Gilmore Girls
17:51 revival came up it still felt like this
17:53 was a trend that was potentially gonna
17:56 go away and now it just feels like
17:58 something people expect or look forward
18:00 to is you know a show ends and then they
18:03 get a movie or they get a you know you
18:07 I'm that way with Downton Abbey or you
18:09 know who did you movie you know it's
18:12 just these characters are alive for you
18:13 and you want you want to know what
18:15 happens then you want to see them but I
18:18 do think also because it's such a great
18:23 group of people and on the one hand I
18:26 think Parenthood had a really lovely
18:28 ending so there's always that thing
18:30 where you don't want to you don't even
18:35 hamper with it yeah but that would be
18:37 you know that would be really fun and
18:42 then maybe do I want more sex in the
18:43 city maybe I'm just trying to think of
18:46 shows that I've enjoyed that
18:49 you know that feel like they could
18:53 continue on I don't know the last show I
18:57 watched fully like all the episodes was
19:04 homeland I don't think that sure what
19:07 how about a book like for me I've always
19:08 wondered and I know there's like fan
19:10 fiction out there that like you
19:12 sometimes take these these characters
19:14 and continual eyes for them like Pride
19:16 and Prejudice I think of you know it's
19:18 been written how many more times do you
19:19 know just get attached to these
19:21 characters and you're not ready to let
19:23 them go and I love it when the fans just
19:25 take it into their own hands or like
19:27 we'll bring it we'll just we're gonna do
19:30 it is there a book that if you could get
19:33 a sequel to that you would like risk
19:40 quarantine to go get well I you know I
19:43 think of like comforting books that I go
19:47 I've gone back to as a kid I was a giant
19:52 Lea reader I for me you can't make
19:55 enough Bridget Jones like I just I love
19:59 that character I love that world and but
20:02 and I think what has been done both in
20:04 the books and and the movies is so great
20:09 but that's character I love you know all
20:15 carrie fisher's stuff you know like a
20:17 postcards from the edge kind of reunion
20:19 it's just on my mind because my friend
20:21 has been reading it for the first time
20:26 but um you know I don't know if you know
20:30 these Betty Smith books she wrote A Tree
20:33 Grows in Brooklyn oh okay
20:35 was one of just my favorite books as a
20:40 kid and in some ways she not that
20:43 character but she did keep bringing she
20:45 kept writing about the same kind of
20:48 young woman in New York but that that
20:50 book meant a lot to me I would like to
20:52 see what happened to that character it
20:54 is something again in the like that
20:58 comfort of rereading something there's
20:59 something kind of magical about
21:01 storytelling that even though you know
21:05 exactly what's going to happen the magic
21:07 is not the plot right thematic is
21:09 something about being immersed in that
21:11 world and it's something really special
21:14 once you unlock it and you find the
21:16 right book that just brings you into
21:19 that well it's how I got into the JK
21:24 Rowling pseudonym books because late to
21:25 the game
21:29 I discovered this kid named Harry Potter
21:31 I don't know if you've heard of him and
21:35 I was like I was like going around
21:38 people like guys these books are so good
21:46 people like yeah no but they're so good
21:48 and that that's a fictional world that's
21:51 actually spin something I would reread
21:55 those books and and part what I've been
21:58 working out too is the movies because I
22:00 kind of really the movies missed me too
22:03 I just didn't think it was for me and I
22:06 am really getting a lot out of enjoyment
22:10 out of it yeah it is an amazing well
22:13 populated world that you can just kind of
22:13 of
22:15 disappear into again race you feel like
22:17 you fully understand the geography and
22:19 the physics of this whole world and it's
22:22 kind of a magical place to disappear to
22:25 it's magical and I'm fascinated by that
22:38 and in terms of almost the the rules of
22:43 a magic world that had it so it seems
22:46 like she had she knew all the books you
22:48 know she knew where it was gonna go or
22:49 at least some key things are if you've
22:53 ever seen notebooks she keeps like
22:55 incredibly intricate what happens to who
22:58 when and yeah I just sit down and I go
23:00 like I don't work like that so I'm
23:04 really drawn into that and I feel like
23:07 the first reading you just drawn into
23:09 the story and almost as more
23:11 archaeologically or something more
23:13 forensically I'd like to go back and
23:17 kind of think about you know how she did
23:20 and it's remarkably invisible right like
23:22 it all that hard work that she does to
23:23 keep things intact
23:25 is invisible in the reading right and
23:28 sometimes you I this is a very
23:30 controversial opinion but I feel like
23:32 Tolkien is very difficult for me and I'm
23:35 so aware of the work and the language
23:37 and the poetry and the song everything
23:38 that kind of went into that world that
23:41 it feels like quite an undertaking to to
23:43 begin the journey where's Harry Potter
23:45 feels like it's very inviting and you're
23:48 welcomed in and it's amazing that you
23:50 did that work on the outside but it
23:53 feels just very natural and organic as
23:57 you're experiencing it I agree what when
23:59 people picture you I think they feel
24:00 very connected to you I think the roles
24:03 that you played in people's homes you
24:05 came right onto their screens and their
24:06 homes and they feel like they know you
24:08 and I think they imagine you with a
24:11 pottery mug in your hand full of coffee
24:14 under a blanket on a couch in front of a
24:16 fireplace and that is kind of where
24:18 they've like pinned you and that's who
24:21 you are how is it different how do you
24:22 picture yourself how close are you to
24:24 that character that you played and and
24:28 how familiar is that to
24:41 I am extremely close to to the way to
24:47 the way Lorelei speaks and views the
24:50 world I feel like it's it's it and
24:53 therefore close to its creator like I I
24:56 think what the most best thing you can
25:00 hope for as an actor is and a very hard
25:03 thing to find is a character with a
25:06 really unique voice that doesn't stand
25:08 who doesn't sound like anybody else and
25:12 it isn't it isn't imitating you know
25:16 like you could never have another I feel
25:18 like that Zooey Deschanel character on a
25:21 new girl like you're very it was so the
25:23 voice of the show and the voice of that
25:27 actress is so wonderful was so unique
25:30 it's easy for things that come after to
25:33 feel like we want it to be like new girl
25:36 like that kind of you know so I would
25:38 say the difference is in both of those
25:40 characters in Lorelei and in Sarah
25:46 there's a kind of carefree quality and
25:53 that I as a person and quite driven and
26:00 worked hard to to make to hopefully you
26:01 know make it look easy
26:04 yeah you know people used to say to me
26:05 about Gilmore Girls you know especially
26:08 must be so much fun all that you know
26:10 language and it was fun and it had a
26:15 kind of the language kind of carried you
26:18 but it was quite technical
26:21 you know quite happen and I never wanted
26:22 people to think about that but I mean
26:27 you know just this year kind of volume
26:30 you know listening right like there is
26:32 such musicality to what was happening in
26:34 that script that it required a lot of
26:37 orchestration and I imagine that's right
26:39 but like music you know it's you didn't see
26:39 see
26:46 her sole employee the piece and that you
26:49 know that that's as you should and it's
26:50 one of the reasons I've talked about
26:54 this before but to me you know one of
26:58 the reasons I I'm not on Instagram for
27:02 example though my I have an agent who
27:03 calls me like literally once a week and
27:05 he's like Instagram this week you'll do
27:13 it right but is I like you know I like
27:15 some separation between the professional
27:16 and the private
27:18 I like it I don't want to know too much
27:22 about you know what goes on behind the
27:27 scenes or like I guess it's wonderful to
27:29 feel close to a character and I want
27:32 people to have that without me ruining
27:37 it by I don't know being on Lorelai or
27:40 something you know but but I could not
27:43 have a really especially television you
27:45 can't you seldom are playing something
27:48 that's far far far away from you it just
27:51 it doesn't it reads as false you know
27:55 and so in the casting normally
27:58 somebody's playing something that which
28:00 is you know something they naturally
28:04 have some qualities and I said this to
28:06 Jane levy when we were doing Zoey's
28:08 extraordinary playlist in Vancouver you
28:13 know you hope once in your career that
28:16 you got a part that I couldn't imagine
28:19 anybody with Jane playing that part you
28:24 know and that's how I felt when I read
28:27 especially Gilmore Girls I was like I
28:29 can't imagine anybody else there's got
28:33 to be like you know and then I got to do
28:35 it for so long and then do it again this
28:39 I I'm so grateful
28:42 one of the quotations that I love from
28:45 your your commencement speech book that
28:49 you you've kind of you you wrote in
28:51 conclusion don't worry about it is that
28:53 the success parts of your
28:56 I look good to others but the best parts
28:59 are actually just all the simple daily
29:01 experiences and I think that is
29:04 something that may be related to
29:05 Instagram or related to all these social
29:07 media platforms is that there's like
29:10 those big successful parts that you post
29:11 and you talk about but really I think
29:13 you know all of the things that really
29:15 matter to us are happening behind the
29:19 scenes right now a lot of our graduates
29:22 there's a lot of thoughts going out to
29:23 them they're having such a unique
29:25 experience of this kind of benchmark
29:28 moment that I think so many of us share
29:29 the same experience of the gown and the
29:32 cap and hot gymnasiums and long long
29:35 speeches but there's some sort of rite
29:37 of passage that happens in that moment
29:40 we're asking all of our authors that
29:42 we're chatting with over the next few
29:44 weeks if they have a special message to
29:46 graduates in this time that are
29:49 homebound and not experiencing that same
29:52 kind of ritual that so many of us got to
29:57 experience well I'll say a controversial
30:00 thing which is wasn't that great I mean
30:03 you know like this rowing
30:05 I mean it's personally in that speech a
30:09 game I tried to say you know on I I
30:13 would never have predicted that I would
30:16 be the person giving the graduation
30:19 speech to my class you know it's my
30:21 school years and years later you just
30:24 kind of don't know and and it's and so
30:27 yes you're at a threshold and it's such
30:30 a loss you know to not be able to
30:33 celebrate all all that has been
30:37 accomplished but it's it it really and
30:41 I'm lucky to have gotten to a place in a
30:45 career I wanted and had enough success
30:49 to go oh it doesn't really feel like
30:52 anything like it feels like something
30:56 you know for a minute or certainly I'm
31:06 the day of work has become the most
31:08 important thing you know the what it how
31:12 did I feel today who do I have around me
31:15 what connection can I make you know with
31:18 my friend or my my partner are you know
31:20 it really is
31:25 that's what is a value and and and when
31:35 it's it's not the list you have at the
31:38 end of the life it really isn't it's
31:42 like who care you know it doesn't it's
31:46 it's these these days are important but
31:51 I always think of my my best friends
31:54 from college got married what a few
31:57 years on school and I couldn't go to the
31:58 wedding because I was I was working and
32:02 and it's very small wedding so I felt
32:04 terrible that I couldn't be there and
32:07 she said she said I'm sorry that you're
32:08 gonna miss this one day but it's more
32:10 important to me that I have your
32:13 friendship all the other days and and I
32:16 I just thought like what kind things she
32:18 was like yes it's a big day but you know
32:24 either with the coffee on Tuesday value
32:28 ice continued securely in conclusion
32:33 don't worry about it to whatever degree
32:37 yeah try not to it doesn't doesn't move
32:39 the needle you know you might as well
32:43 not worry and make life right now
32:46 especially as comforting and it's kind
32:49 as you possibly can you know and and try
32:53 to take advantage if possible of what
32:56 you were saying you know exposure to art
32:59 or you know trying to be creative trying
33:06 to find some grace in this time and you
33:08 know make more banana bread God knows
33:10 like you can get the flower you know you
33:13 should you don't need that much I'm my
33:16 banana bread has like five
33:18 bananas in it and like not that much
33:24 else well thank you so much for your
33:26 time this evening Lauren it's been such
33:29 a fun chat and I'm really looking
33:31 forward to seeing your next two projects
33:32 and what they are and learning more
33:35 about them and thank you for your final
33:37 thoughts for those graduates and joining
33:40 us at indigo thank you so much you for
33:43 inviting me here today and this I
33:46 learned yet a new technology like never
33:47 done this before
33:51 welcome to the dark side yeah thank you
