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2:16 On the program today,
2:17 Michael Blake, former New York Assemblyman,
2:19 Assemblyman,
2:23 challenging Congressman Richie Torres
2:25 for New York's 15th Congressional District.
2:27 District.
2:30 Then Jay Willis, editor-inchief of Balls
2:33 and Strikes
2:35 on the oral arguments in front of the
2:38 Supreme Court regarding
2:48 Also on the program today, Senate passes
2:51 >> the continuing resolution
2:53 last night.
2:57 Now it goes to the House.
3:02 Meanwhile, Indivisible Move On the Plec.
3:06 A half a dozen House U members all call
3:16 No end established for FAA flight cuts
3:20 as some airports are down to 60% operations.
3:26 New report in the wake of tear gasing a one-year-old
3:36 >> Gestapo I'm sorry Bovino and ICE to
3:41 Trump looking to open California to
3:44 offshore drilling.
3:46 Hundred lawmakers push Starbucks to
3:50 resume union contract negotiations.
3:54 A Utah judge denies the Republican
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3:59 Sides with the plaintiff on a map that
4:03 may give the Democrats a seat.
4:05 >> Trump meets with former Al Qaeda
4:09 commander and current Syrian president.
4:11 New report from a whistleblower.
4:13 Glain Maxwell.
4:16 She's planning on getting a commutation
4:20 from Donald Trump. Imagine that.
4:22 All after Donald Trump's former defense
4:28 attorney, now uh DOJ
4:32 >> meets with Golain Maxwell. Fascinating.
4:34 >> All that and more on today's Majority
4:38 Report. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
4:39 got a little bit of an early start
4:42 today. We got a busy day. Emma Vigland
4:45 out today.
4:49 >> Ostensibly on some type of um
4:51 I don't know. Uh like >> junket.
4:52 >> junket.
4:56 >> Yeah, she's on a junket. But
4:59 uh it seems like uh there's a lot of
5:01 like muffin baskets associated with that
5:04 junket if you get my message.
5:05 >> You probably don't.
5:05 >> I get it.
5:08 >> No idea. Yeah, it's a biz. It's a biz
5:15 [clears throat]
5:17 A lot of organizations
5:21 um a lot of organizations came out uh
5:24 calling for Chuck Schumer's resignation. Um
5:30 and uh Chuck Schumer really wants you to
5:32 know that
5:35 he had nothing to do with it. The here's
5:42 He's trying to pretend he had nothing to
5:44 do with this. The only problem is, and
5:46 that would be you'd be able to get away
5:49 with that if you weren't leader of the
5:56 And um
5:59 apparently a lot of uh Democratic
6:05 senators are uh saying that well
6:07 now's not the time to make an issue of
6:10 this. But there's a lot of talk that
6:13 Chuck Schumer is not going to be
6:16 the Senate minority leader or majority
6:19 leader come 2027.
6:21 We shall see about that. and and he's up
6:28 And uh I think there's got to be decent
6:30 money on the idea that maybe he'll
6:33 resign or retire, I should say. I mean,
6:37 it's been 45,
6:41 50 years. How old is he? He first became
6:44 a congressman in 2023. Excuse me, 23. At
6:54 >> Yeah. 74. He's 74. He's been in office
6:57 for 41 years.
6:58 >> Battle tested.
7:03 >> No, wait a second. I'm sorry. 51 years.
7:07 >> Over half a century.
7:08 >> You know, at one point you got to say
7:10 enough is enough. Like what is the what
7:12 is the legacy that Chuck Schumer thinks
7:14 he's going to get?
7:18 Uh, I would suggest letting Obama's main
7:21 uh successes, the Iran deal and
7:23 Obamacare die on his watch.
7:26 >> Yep. Well, I mean, he he was against the
7:33 Here is Chuck Shim. Let's do this on the
7:36 floor of the Senate. [sighs]
7:38 [sighs]
7:42 We will win. Go ahead.
7:44 >> But let me be clear. However this vote
7:46 turns out,
7:49 this fight will and must continue.
7:51 Democrats must fight because of millions
7:53 of millions of families will lose
7:55 healthc care coverage. We must fight
7:59 because children who are dying of cancer
8:01 will not get healthc care coverage. We
8:03 must fight because a senior citizen
8:06 cannot afford to pay $25,000 a year just
8:09 for health insurance. We must fight to
8:12 keep millions from financial ruin. And
8:15 make no mistake about it, the American
8:18 people know who is inflicting
8:21 this healthc care trauma on them. Donald
8:24 Trump and the Republicans.
8:27 >> All right. I I I want to be jud I I want
8:30 to be generous here.
8:32 I don't know if I've heard uh him say
8:35 Donald Trump and the Republicans
8:39 >> in a long time. No MAGA, none of this.
8:40 It's actually uh Donald Trump and the Republicans.
8:42 Republicans.
8:45 Here's the problem with Chuck Schumer.
8:48 Well, there's multiple problems. The the
8:50 guy is not a leader.
8:53 He's just simply not. I'm sorry. He's a concierge
8:58 and
9:01 he's up there trying to be passionate on
9:05 the Senate floor and reading.
9:07 You can't remember that they're cutting
9:15 a spending package to be approved, a
9:16 part of the deal to reopen the
9:18 government. I mean, come on. He's just
9:21 sitting here reading off of a document,
9:22 but trying to make it sound like he's
9:24 impassion. Uh Senator, you really need
9:26 to sound impassioned.
9:30 And then like I don't know who this is
9:33 for anymore. Like I I without a doubt at
9:35 one time
9:40 people would read Axios or Politico and
9:42 actually like we're naive enough to
9:45 think like they're learning something.
9:49 >> But this uh scoop,
9:50 >> what was it in? Axios or >> Axio?
9:51 >> Axio?
9:54 >> Axios. Here's the scoop. Schumer
9:55 privately fought to extend government
9:57 shutdown. Where do you where I wonder
10:00 where that scoop came from? [laughter]
10:05 >> This This reporter probably had to do a
10:08 lot of digging as in like, "Wait, my
10:10 phone's ringing on my table. I got to
10:13 find it." Oh, okay. Oh, hello. Uh, Chuck
10:16 Schumer's chief of staff. What? Oh. Oh,
10:18 really? Is that right?
10:21 Here's the story. I mean, this is this
10:25 is what we call a beet sweetener.
10:27 the the chief of staff or whoever it is
10:29 from Chuck Schumer's office calls the
10:32 reporter and goes, "Hey man, here's a
10:34 story we got for you. And if you do me a
10:36 solid on this,
10:38 I'll hook you up with something in the future."
10:44 Why it matters. Senate uh majority
10:45 minority leader Chuck Schumer publicly
10:47 battled Republicans over the government
10:50 shutdown. He was privately cajoling a
10:52 group of moderates not to fold before November.
10:59 Democrats are blaming uh Schumer for not
11:02 prolonging the shutdown. In reality, it
11:06 could have been much shorter.
11:08 Two weeks into the shutdown, a group of
11:10 moderates told Schumer they were ready
11:11 to vote to open the government.
11:13 According to three sources familiar with
11:15 the conversation,
11:16 it's unclear if that group was big
11:18 enough to end the shutdown. In other
11:20 words, that group was not big enough to
11:26 But Schumer persuaded the moderates to
11:28 hold out at least until the beginning of
11:30 November when open enrollment for the
11:39 The number of arrows
11:42 in Chuck Schumer's quiver
11:47 to cajul or convince these moderates.
11:49 You couldn't I mean it's not even it's
11:51 not even arrows. There was like a cannon
11:53 in his quiver.
11:56 All the polling showed Donald Trump at
11:58 his lowest approval rating during the
12:01 shutdown. All the polling showed that
12:03 Republicans were overwhelmingly being
12:06 blamed for it. All the po polling showed
12:08 and all the news media showed that
12:11 people were outraged at the um at the
12:15 increase in their ACA um uh insurance bills.
12:17 bills.
12:19 they were getting blamed for insurance
12:22 bills across the country and across like
12:24 outside of the ACA because in part of
12:27 like uh the big beautiful bill stuff,
12:29 but nevertheless, Republicans were
12:31 getting blamed for what they wanted and
12:35 needed to. And then and then a week ago,
12:40 the Democrats had the most electoral
12:43 success that they have had
12:47 in any given day
12:51 for ages. Maybe since 2018, but maybe
12:54 since before then. They didn't lose a
12:55 single race. They didn't lose dog
12:58 catcher in in in New Jersey. I mean, nowhere.
13:04 At the very beginning of the shutdown,
13:05 Schumer was put on notice by a group of
13:07 moderate Democrats. Didn't want to pick
13:09 the the government shutdown fight in the
13:11 first place. Yes, that was obvious. We
13:14 could see the contemporaneous reporting.
13:15 We let them know what we were doing,
13:19 said Jenner uh said Jean Shaheen,
13:21 who led the bipartisan talks to find a
13:24 compromise. In fact, you'll recall they
13:28 did make a deal two weeks ago. Am I the
13:30 only person who remembers this? They did
13:32 say like, "Okay, we'll do a one-year
13:35 extension." And they got rejected by
13:36 John Thoon.
13:39 So, they go, "What was Schumer doing?
13:42 Where was the value ad uh that Schumer
13:44 was bringing to this?" Asked if he felt
13:46 that Schumer was working against her
13:48 compromise package. Shaheen declined to
13:51 comment. I don't really uh want to get
14:05 "I promise you we will we will cave. I
14:08 promise you we'll cave."
14:11 What kind of bull is this?
14:13 >> This is and and the and you can just
14:15 tell by the way this piece is written,
14:18 by Sunday afternoon, the Democrat uh
14:20 Democratic moderates ultimately decided
14:22 that the cost of continuing the shutdown
14:24 exceeded the benefits. What were the costs?
14:30 particularly relative to everything
14:34 else. The bottom line is that the the
14:36 money people were getting pressure about
14:39 what was going on with the airlines.
14:41 You ready? Okay. This is what they said.
14:45 They extracted a promise from Republican
14:47 leaders to hold a vote in December on
14:49 extending the ACA credits. They
14:52 extracted it. Incidentally, what they
14:56 did not extract was a vote in the House.
14:59 They only extracted,
15:02 I yanked it from them, an opportunity to
15:06 lose a vote in the Senate, not even to
15:09 hold the vote in the House.
15:12 So there is 100%
15:17 chance of this not passing.
15:21 Those ACA um
15:24 subsidies gone.
15:27 Not even a vote in the House.
15:29 Internally, Schumer and most of his
15:31 caucus argued that the concession wasn't enough.
15:34 enough.
15:35 But eight Democrats who caucus with the
15:40 Democrats broke ranks. What? What is
15:44 Now, let's be honest. Dick Durban voted
15:46 for this. You'll notice they all all the
15:48 people who voted are not up for
15:54 Half of them are resigning. I mean,
15:59 retiring. Maybe not half, but a third.
16:01 Dick Durban is Chuck Schumer's best
16:04 friend in the Senate. Like roommate best
16:07 friend. like they were roommates for
16:11 years and years and years and years.
16:15 When Dick Durban votes for something,
16:18 more often than not, he's doing it for Schumer.
16:25 Schumer couldn't convince his best
16:32 That's quite a cajol.
16:35 >> The heat is on them when they do this.
16:37 Yes. Uh so you have a lot of
16:39 organizations coming out for Schumer's
16:42 uh resign uh resignation. He won't do it.
16:45 it.
16:48 He won't do it. But I guarantee you we
16:53 saw uh one of his uh longtime uh aids um
17:01 Uh my guess is you're going to see over
17:04 the course of the next 3 to 6 months at
17:07 least a couple more leave because they
17:09 know it's over. It's over for Chuck
17:17 He may be done as the leader in 2027
17:20 after the midterms, but it's over for
17:21 Chuck Schumer. And they know it. And
17:24 Schumer knows.
17:25 I don't know if Schumer knows it, but
17:28 his staff knows it. The staff knows it.
17:30 They're all looking for other jobs right now.
17:33 now.
17:35 >> And that is not Kentucky fried French fries.
17:36 fries.
17:38 >> It is not Kentucky Fried French fries.
17:38 All right. In a moment, we're going to
17:42 be talking to Michael Blake. He is um
17:45 uh running for
17:50 the uh in the Democratic primary for the
17:54 15th uh district in New York. It's uh
17:56 Richie Torres's
17:57 currently sitting in that seat. I
17:58 >> remember him.
18:02 >> I Yeah, you you may recall the last time
18:05 we heard of Richie Torres. Um he was on
18:07 the Adam Freedelland show
18:12 >> and that was when I think he moved from
18:14 a guy who very likely may lose his
18:17 congressional seat
18:19 uh from being the future of the
18:22 Democratic party. There's a quick turnaround.
18:27 Somebody must have been fired over that interview.
18:27 interview.
18:32 >> I Somebody wasn't honestly. It's like um
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30:36 >> We are back. Sam Cedar on the Majority
30:39 Report. Emma Viglland out today. Joining
30:42 us now, Michael Blake. He is uh among
30:46 other things, a candidate for the 15th
30:49 district uh of New York in the uh
30:55 primary. Um and that uh this is a um uh
30:57 a second goround for you. Is that right, Michael?
30:58 Michael?
31:00 >> It is. Uh in in 2020, we we made this
31:03 this run. uh we came a close second and
31:04 uh we're continuing to see that there's
31:06 more that's needed in the district
31:07 around cost of living, around
31:09 affordability, and just desperate
31:10 change. And that's why we we're running
31:12 because we deserve better in the Bronx.
31:14 >> Let's talk about what we have right now
31:17 in the Bronx. Uh and that is Congressman
31:23 Richie Torres. Um he um the the
31:25 Democratic establishment, I have to say,
31:26 has been trying to push this guy as the
31:30 future of the Democratic party. and he
31:34 seems to only have traction amongst sort
31:36 of the establishment in some ways, like
31:38 where where do you see him falling down
31:41 the most? And and and I have to say also
31:43 one of the the things that he seems to
31:45 have been
31:49 um has decided to be his like pet uh
31:52 project is uh defending the ongoing
31:56 genocide in uh in Gaza or I should say
31:59 the um uh the one that took place that
32:02 we now you know new reporting has shown
32:04 what the Biden administration knew uh contemporaneously.
32:05 contemporaneously.
32:07 Uh what is your sense of of all of that
32:09 in terms of Richie Torres?
32:11 >> I think when you look at what the the
32:15 energy is in New York uh you know I was
32:17 someone who crossendors Donnie our mayor
32:19 elect Richie Torres refused to endorse
32:21 me he actually endorsed Andrew Cuomo.
32:22 When we talk about the energy of how
32:25 I've helped mobilize Democrats across
32:27 New York and across the country, Richie
32:28 Torres has not only attacked the members
32:30 of the squad, he's called the DSA a
32:32 Mickey Mouse party and has literally
32:36 told people uh to go f off uh when he
32:37 didn't agree with them. Uh there is a
32:39 new vision of what's happening right now
32:41 uh in which people are saying enough is
32:42 enough and that we're sick and tired of
32:45 it. And so in the district, Sam say the
32:46 poorest congressional district in the
32:48 country, a district where just recently
32:50 an explosion happened at one of our
32:52 public housing developments, a district
32:54 where you have a community in New York
32:55 City where one out of four people are in
32:56 poverty and wondering how they're going
32:59 to pay their bills. A a district that we
33:02 still are wondering what will happen if
33:04 and when ICE rolls up in the Bronx
33:05 because we saw what they did in Canal
33:08 Street. Uh, as someone who is a son of
33:09 Jamaican immigrants, I'm saying very
33:11 clearly there is a new vision of what we
33:13 can and deserve to have in this district
33:15 in the Bronx. And when we think about
33:18 what's at at play, whether it be for
33:19 health care, where I've said we need to
33:21 have Medicare for all, whether it be on
33:23 housing, where I said that we need to
33:24 have an ending of credit scores for
33:27 housing applications, a guaranteed local
33:30 median income, and expanding out housing
33:31 income limits because too often you have
33:33 to be too poor or rich enough to get
33:35 access to a home. that we have to cancel
33:37 student debt, that we have to say very
33:40 simply that ICE has no damn place in our
33:43 communities, and that you can say and I
33:45 will say as an ordained reverend who has
33:48 been to Israel twice, who has baptized
33:49 people in the Jordan River, who has
33:51 prayed at the Western Wall, that yes,
33:54 what Hamas did was inhumane and brutal,
33:56 but at the same time, a genocide is
33:58 happening. You can say both at the same
34:00 time. And when we talk about what is
34:02 occurring in this party, people are
34:04 saying we need something better. You
34:06 cannot say that you can watch how Senate
34:09 Democrats, eight Senate Democrats caved
34:11 this past week where they made a
34:14 decision on a deal that does not
34:15 guarantee that we will have the
34:18 Affordable Care Act continuing because
34:19 they wanted to agree with the
34:21 Republicans. I am not here to agree with
34:23 Republicans. I'm not here to agree with
34:25 Richie Torres. I'm here to be with the
34:27 people and that is the reason why more
34:29 than two million people have already
34:31 watched our launch video. It's the
34:33 reason why we have heard from across the
34:35 district. People are excited about what
34:37 we want to do and we said very clearly
34:39 if you know that we deserve better than
34:41 my name is Michael Blake and I want to
34:42 be your congressman for the South Bronx.
34:46 >> Have you Michael um um have you you know
34:47 over the course of the past two years
34:48 have you had constituents come up to you
34:51 and go like hey uh I just want you to
34:53 know I made a mistake. [laughter]
34:55 Um I I should have voted for you the
34:59 first time. um uh uh and didn't uh has
35:03 there been like a a sense that Torres
35:05 has been out there sort of I don't know
35:09 he's been it seems at least from from
35:11 here that he's been a little bit
35:15 distance uh from his own uh district and
35:18 more out there trying to make make a
35:22 name for himself in uh you know the the
35:27 the establishment circles. Yeah. So the
35:30 the we've had people who in the last few
35:32 days in the last few weeks and last few
35:36 months would remind me come up to me and
35:38 say we will never forget that in that
35:40 first race that you were out there
35:42 feeding people during COVID and giving
35:46 out PPE and we have a chance to do this
35:49 right this time. Right? You have folks
35:52 who are saying very clearly, he is not
35:54 who we thought he was and we want to do
35:56 something different. And when people
35:57 have been saying, yo, you know what? We
35:58 want to learn more. I've been real
35:59 clear. Go to our website, go to
36:01 michaelblade for congressongress.com and
36:03 see the vision, right? See what we're
36:05 talking about. See when we talk about
36:06 for Puerto Rico, Sam to your question,
36:09 the dynamic of self-determination. We
36:11 just came back from Somos. You can't
36:12 represent the South Bronx and the West
36:14 Bronx and not talk about Puerto Rico and
36:16 DR and Jamaica and the Caribbean where
36:18 we have said I stand for
36:20 self-determination trust in the people.
36:22 Richie is currently standing on
36:24 statehood with a Republican leadership
36:26 that is believing in that. So you have
36:28 folks who are saying we now see what is
36:29 happening. We are listening to what is
36:32 happening. And what is also important to
36:35 appreciate is that in this congressional
36:38 district, a district where you had so
36:40 many attacks happening against Zoron in
36:42 the election, not only did the mayor
36:45 elect win the congressional district, he
36:47 won the assembly district that they kept
36:49 trying to tell people folks would not
36:51 support him because he was talking about
36:52 cost of living, which I'm talking about
36:53 because he's talking about
36:54 affordability, which is what I'm talking
36:56 about. And what people are wondering
37:00 right now is what did you do Richie when
37:02 you had the power when you were in
37:05 Congress and Dems had control of
37:08 everything? What changed now when you're
37:11 there? What is changing? And they can't
37:13 say that. It's not enough to just say I
37:15 got funding for your community project.
37:16 It's not enough to say that he showed up
37:18 for your event. You have to ask
37:20 yourself, is my life changing for the
37:22 better? And the answer is no. And so you
37:24 have a lot of folks that have been
37:25 excited about what we're doing, how we
37:27 can bring people together of all
37:29 different communities who are are ready
37:30 to rock and and quite frankly, they're
37:32 just ready for real, right? They they're
37:35 just ready for Democrats to be point
37:36 blank and say, "You know what? You may
37:37 not agree with anything I'm saying, but
37:38 I'm going to be real with you. I'm going
37:40 to talk with you. I'm going to listen to
37:41 you, and I'm going to be in this
37:44 moment." And and folks really want to
37:46 see that we deserve better and we can
37:47 have better, and that's what I'm
37:48 presenting and why I'm running for
37:52 Congress. have you uh in the wake of uh
37:55 Mamani's win and you were uh in uh the
38:00 uh Democratic primary um for mayor. Um
38:03 and I will have to say that I think um
38:05 uh Andrew Cuomo is probably still a
38:10 little bit um stinging uh from uh from
38:12 sitting on the same stage with you at
38:16 that time. uh and uh you know, but I'm
38:18 sure I'm sure that he'll find a a spa to
38:22 relax in in Florida uh to take care of
38:25 that. But have you found like there like
38:26 give me a sense of like the renewed
38:31 energy um that uh if you've had a sense
38:34 of one in the wake of Mam Donnie
38:38 winning? We got to appreciate
38:40 when you have an election that had
38:42 turnout in levels that we haven't seen
38:44 since the late 60s. When you have a
38:48 scenario where Zoron exceeded a million
38:49 votes. When we think about the dynamic
38:52 of what's happening where young voters
38:55 and communities of color mobilize in a
38:57 way that we have not seen,
38:59 not only does it show you that cost of
39:01 living and affordability connected, but
39:03 also if you give them an energy, they're
39:06 going to connect with you, right? And
39:08 you just can't ignore. And it's not just
39:09 obviously what happened in New York. You
39:10 saw that in New Jersey, you saw that in
39:11 Virginia, obviously with Prop 50. I
39:14 mean, Prop 50 in California had levels
39:15 where people were showing up more than
39:17 they were in presidential races. like
39:19 just like folks are ready for something
39:21 that's different in a very powerful way.
39:23 And I saw that on the ground and I said
39:25 throughout the the mayoral campaign into
39:29 now, why did Zoran and I crossendorse
39:30 each other in the primary? Because we
39:32 both were talking about cost of living.
39:34 Why did we cross endorse each other?
39:35 Because we both talking about the issues
39:38 on the ground. And that's what people
39:39 want you to hear. They want to hear.
39:40 They want to see. And they want to
39:44 understand. And I do know, not believe
39:46 that that energy is going to continue
39:48 because what we're watching right now is
39:51 you had incredible energy happen last
39:53 Tuesday and then you have this
39:56 foolishness happened this week of caving
39:58 to the Republicans and people saying
40:01 enough and they are done. It's the
40:02 reason why you have people that are
40:03 flooding the phone lines in Maryland
40:05 saying we demand that you actually do
40:07 redistricting right now. It's the reason
40:09 why there's going to be a case in early
40:11 January around redistricting here in New
40:14 York because folks want to understand
40:15 what are you doing for us and that
40:17 energy continuing. And what I'm saying
40:21 to everybody is if you are tired of
40:24 listening to how Richie Torres has taken
40:28 stances that are not democratic and not
40:31 supportive of the people, then you have
40:33 a choice. You have a choice in someone
40:36 in Michael Blake who not only created
40:37 the only My Brothers Keep It program
40:39 that's statewide in the country here in
40:41 New York, who not only had an effort
40:42 where minority women owned businesses
40:44 get access capital that they're not, who
40:46 not only can say very clearly that I
40:48 have helped people get elected across
40:50 New York and across the country, but I'm
40:51 actually going to fight for you when it
40:53 comes to your groceries and what it
40:54 comes to you in terms of transportation
40:56 and that you have someone that's real.
40:58 That's why we're here right now. Uh
41:00 we've had about um I think it's now up
41:04 to four or five uh Congress people uh
41:08 call for um uh for Chuck Schumer to to
41:11 step down from his leadership in in the
41:15 wake of this uh I I I wouldn't even call
41:18 it a deal for uh the to end the
41:21 government shutdown. This uh the ACA uh
41:23 vote is just is a vote that's going to
41:24 lose in the Senate. There's not even
41:26 going to be a vote in the House. there's
41:29 no way that these subsidies can extend.
41:31 Um, what's your opinion about uh both
41:33 Schumer uh in terms of his leadership
41:36 and uh for that matter Jeff?
41:39 >> Look, the the the Senate and obviously
41:39 they're going to have to make their
41:42 decision uh on what they're going to do
41:45 uh about uh Senator Schumer itself. You
41:47 know, my focus is is running and winning
41:50 this race. Uh
41:52 real talk, let me I'm gonna make it real
41:53 personal before I get into the the
41:54 process of it. I was born with a heart
41:59 murmur, right? I I was in the NICU for
42:01 three and a half weeks. You can maybe
42:03 see it behind me, but behind me further
42:05 back is a portrait of the Lord's supper
42:08 that my mama and daddy got for me uh to
42:09 watch over me because they were just
42:13 hoping I would make it as a kid.
42:14 Uh we have a family that's overcome cancer.
42:16 cancer.
42:17 Uh today being Veterans Day, my oldest
42:21 brother served this army for 29 years.
42:26 The notion that a socalled deal
42:27 was agreed upon that wasn't going to
42:33 People are going to die because what
42:35 just happened. And sometimes folks don't
42:37 want to be like that real. Like like if
42:39 you are wondering about your bills and
42:42 you're in a scenario where I'm wondering
42:44 if I could pay for my groceries or my
42:46 rent or go to the doctor, we know over
42:48 and over again what people decide,
42:51 >> right? And so I I do think there's some
42:53 real conversation they have to have uh
42:55 in the House and Senate uh about the
42:59 vision of what's happening here. Uh it's
43:02 definitely disappointing, right? Uh to
43:05 that degree
43:06 and that's one reason I'm running,
43:09 right? And it's one reason why uh I have
43:12 said very publicly uh people see it on
43:13 X. I was like, look, we need Medicare
43:16 for all, right? It's another reminder of
43:19 why this next generation is necessary uh
43:21 in Congress. And it's not just about
43:24 having a Democrat. It's about having the
43:26 right Democrat. And that's what we want
43:27 to bring to the South Bronx. And that's
43:29 the reason I want people to join us what
43:30 we're doing and in making sure that
43:32 Richie Torres does not get reelected,
43:34 but that we get elected to Congress and
43:37 help the people. Michael, if people um
43:39 from around the country or from frankly
43:42 around New York City want to get
43:44 involved with your campaign, help uh how
43:46 they can, what uh where where should
43:48 they go?
43:51 >> Michael Blake4ongress.com,
43:54 go to the website, sign up, continue to
43:56 engage with us, donate, volunteer, all
43:58 the things we need. Go follow us on
44:00 social media. If you see Michael Blake
44:01 for Congress or you see Blake for the
44:03 Bronx, um we need you to be rocking with
44:06 us there. Uh and and I and I just want
44:08 people to appreciate
44:10 that this is a new day in what's
44:12 happening in this country. You should be
44:16 excited, inspired, motivated by the
44:18 people that are representing you. And
44:21 I'm giving you a new vision. You do not
44:23 have to stay with a person like Richie
44:25 Torres when it comes to representing the
44:28 people of the South and West Bronx. If
44:30 you are ready for new change and you
44:31 believe in the Bronx, I'm asking you to
44:33 rock with me. My name is Michael Blake.
44:35 Join us at michaelblakeforongress.com
44:36 so we can show that we can actually do
44:37 this better.
44:39 >> And we should just remind people I think
44:41 uh the election is in uh third week of
44:43 June in next year.
44:45 >> Yeah. Well, we're waiting on the final
44:46 day. Usually that fourth week and it'll
44:48 be a very active election. Uh because
44:51 it's governor, AG, state senate, state
44:53 assembly, comroll all on the ball at the
44:55 same time. Uh and we're going to show
44:57 people some momentum and and I'm going
45:00 to give this teaser. I can't say who. Uh
45:02 but be prepared that a a major
45:03 endorsement is going to happen within
45:06 the next seven days right out the gate.
45:08 Uh people gonna see that we're for real.
45:10 People going to see that that there's
45:12 momentum that is happening here. Uh and
45:15 and if you are ready for change around
45:16 the country, Democrats, we've been
45:17 listening to you. If you're ready for
45:20 change and you want a real Democrat, a
45:22 real progressive, someone who's going to
45:25 speak up and fight for you, go to
45:26 michael blade for Congress.com and
45:27 support us so we can make this happen.
45:29 >> All right. We're going to put a link uh
45:31 in the uh podcast and YouTube
45:34 description. Um
45:36 and I may even tweet it out. Although
45:38 Richie Torres has me blocked, so uh
45:39 >> I [laughter] mean that's exactly why you
45:42 should tweet it out. Exactly why you
45:45 should tweet it out. Uh so so it can
45:45 happen out there.
45:50 >> Somebody can somebody can uh uh uh uh
45:52 retweet it and uh send it to him. Uh
45:54 Michael Blake, uh thanks so much for
45:55 your time today. Really appreciate it.
45:57 >> Appreciate Appreciate everything you do,
45:58 man. and you've given a voice for a lot
45:59 of people. We're grateful for you.
46:01 >> Thanks for coming on. We'll uh we'll
46:03 again we'll put that link in the podcast
46:06 and YouTube description. All right,
46:07 folks. Uh we're going to take a quick
46:09 break. When we come back, we're going to
46:11 be talking to Jay Willis, editor and
46:13 chief of Balls and Strikes on this
47:01 We are back Sam Cedar on the Majority
47:02 Report. It's a pleasure to welcome to
47:05 the program Jay Willis. He is the
47:08 editor-inchief of Balls and Strikes. Um
47:11 Jay, welcome uh to the program.
47:12 >> Hey, good morning, Sam. Thank you so
47:14 much for having me. So, uh, we've got
47:16 this case that was just argued in front
47:18 of the Supreme Court, uh, about the
47:22 president's authority under the, um, the
47:26 EIP, the, uh, emergency Well, I I can
47:29 never remember what, uh, what it is, but it's
47:30 it's
47:31 >> Me neither. It's fine.
47:33 >> It's a, it's an emergency powers that
47:37 he's he is contending he has to um
47:40 impose tariffs. And we should say
47:43 Congress also or the House abdicated its
47:45 responsibility in the passage of the big
47:47 uh beautiful bill I think it was or the
47:49 continuing resolution the first time
47:51 around. It was the continuing resolution
47:55 in March saying uh we abdicated
47:57 authority over tariffs until I think it
48:00 was till 2026 to allow them to escape
48:03 any responsibility for this. Before we
48:05 get into the specifics of that case,
48:08 will you remind us of the arguments that
48:10 were made and how the Supreme Court
48:14 ruled when Joe Biden tried to exercise
48:17 emergency powers under the Education Act
48:21 to uh that supposedly, at least we all
48:28 thought, allowed him to wave or um uh uh modify
48:30 modify
48:32 uh loan repayments.
48:34 Yeah, I will. And thank you again for
48:37 having me. And it's it's been wild to
48:40 sort of read about this case and listen
48:42 to oral arguments, I guess it was last
48:45 week, and think, wait, weren't we just
48:47 here? Didn't we just figure out what
48:50 presidents can and can't do? Um, but
48:53 you're right. Uh, under in 2023, the
48:56 court decided the case Biden v. Nebraska
48:59 about Biden's student debt relief plan.
49:02 And Biden had grounded his plan in a
49:04 provision of federal law that allows him
49:07 to, and I'll quote, wave or modify
49:10 certain legal obligations during
49:13 national emergencies. Biden's position
49:15 was that a deadly pandemic that had
49:18 ground the global economy to a halt
49:20 probably constituted an emergency such
49:22 that he could extend partial student
49:25 debt relief to a cohort, excuse me, a
49:28 cohort of lower income borrowers.
49:30 But the Supreme Court and specifically
49:32 the six conservatives on the Supreme
49:36 Court said nuhuh uhuh uh-uh and they
49:38 based their opinion on what they call
49:41 the major questions doctrine. I want to
49:43 stress that the major questions doctrine
49:45 is something that the Supreme Court has
49:49 created. And what it says is basically
49:51 if the president is asserting if the
49:54 president is asserting that Congress
49:57 delegated to him uh some power under
50:00 federal law that Congress has to be
50:03 really clear before giving the president
50:06 power to do u to do basically anything
50:09 big. Uh vast economic significance is
50:11 the court's language. stripped of legal
50:14 ease. The court just says, "Listen,
50:17 Biden forgiving student debt relief too
50:19 big a deal to be legal." So the question here,
50:20 here,
50:21 >> can we just stop here for a moment on
50:23 this? Sure. Because the major questions,
50:25 doctrine, I just want to remind people. >> Yeah.
50:25 >> Yeah.
50:28 >> Is was made up out of whole cloth? I
50:32 went to law school for a year in 1990 or
50:34 91. I can't remember what it was. >> Condolences.
50:35 >> Condolences.
50:38 >> And yes, uh I've recovered. It's take it
50:41 took a while. I've recovered. But when I
50:43 went to law school, we were still almost
50:47 15 or 20 years away from the concept of
50:49 the major questions doctrine for even
50:54 being in existence. Like this is so um
50:58 unripe as it were. Like this is and it
51:01 was made up from whole cloth. this idea
51:04 of like what like there's no limiting
51:07 principle to or defining principle as to
51:10 what major economic implications are or
51:12 I mean none of it. It all just seems to
51:16 be a basically like a you know it's a
51:18 it's a it's a wild card or get out of
51:20 free jail card where uh the the
51:22 conservatives just go we're going to use
51:24 this now actually
51:26 >> and you're right and that's why it's
51:28 such a powerful tool in the justice's
51:30 hands and particularly in the
51:32 conservative justice's hands because
51:35 here you have I mean again my view is
51:38 that co 19 is much more was much more
51:41 clearly an emergency than Trump saying
51:45 uh trade deficits exist or Canada ran an
51:47 advertisement with Reagan that I didn't
51:49 like that hurt my feelings. That's my
51:51 opinion. But you don't have to agree
51:54 with me to see that the framework is
51:56 really similar. You have a president
52:00 using kind of unclear statutory language
52:03 uh and asserting that to implement a
52:06 major item on his policy agenda. The
52:09 difference now is that the court didn't
52:12 like and didn't support Joe Biden and
52:15 does like and does support Donald Trump.
52:18 >> Okay. And so now, but they they have
52:21 also a dilemma because and and and you
52:24 write about this that
52:28 they want to preserve
52:31 they they they want to preserve some of
52:33 this and so they have to sort of thread
52:37 the needle so that they they can say um
52:40 that I mean really I mean the long and
52:43 short of it in my opinion is they just
52:45 there's two things that they want to
52:47 protect. They want to protect the Fed
52:50 and they want to protect um uh trade.
52:52 Everything else they're basically
52:53 willing to say to Donald Trump, "Yeah,
52:55 go have at it." But they've got to be
52:57 careful in the way that they rule in
53:00 this case because they don't want to
53:02 rely too much on the major questions
53:04 doctrine you according to what you've
53:07 written. So they're trying to find sort
53:10 of more technical ways in which they can
53:13 sort of stop Trump from doing these
53:17 tariffs, but still sort of reserve the
53:20 um the I guess the
53:23 the the pristineess of the major
53:25 questions doctrine.
53:27 >> Yeah, I would add that to your list of
53:28 things that the court wants to preserve.
53:32 the Fed, trade, and their own power to
53:34 strike down future democratic policies
53:37 that they don't like. So, an oral
53:39 argument, the liberal justices, you
53:40 could tell they're like still pretty
53:43 annoyed about how the student debt debt
53:46 case went down. I'll just give one
53:48 representative example. Sonia Soto,
53:50 excuse me, Sonia Sotomayor said to Trump
53:52 solicitor general, "I don't understand
53:55 your argument. like, didn't we just say
53:57 that the president, you know, can't
54:01 assert broad uh statutory powers under
54:03 madeup emergencies?
54:05 And the solicitor general tried to
54:06 distinguish to say, oh, you know,
54:09 education policy, that's domestic
54:11 tariffs, that's foreign affairs, that's
54:13 really, you know, presidential power.
54:15 And soayor said, okay, so so Biden could
54:18 have just said that student debt was a
54:20 global warming, climate change crisis,
54:22 and he could have got in his way. Now,
54:24 the answer like of course not. She's
54:26 being sarcastic. But the point is that
54:28 she's showing that there's no real
54:30 distinction here. The court just didn't
54:33 like uh the policy in the student debt
54:36 case and is a little more friendly to
54:38 this president. Certainly has been since
54:40 he took office for the second time nine
54:41 months ago.
54:43 >> And so what where are the conservative
54:46 justices in terms of way they apply it?
54:48 or or how are they going to get how are
54:49 they going to like sort of like how are
54:52 they going to be able to serve their two
54:55 masters of one maintaining their sort of
54:58 like um wild card that they get to play
55:02 and two also protecting tariffs.
55:04 >> Well, it is good news that you know for
55:07 once the conservative justices at oral
55:09 argument were a little more skeptical of
55:11 Trump's position than they usually have
55:14 been. And I think that goes back to your
55:16 point, which is that the conservative
55:19 justices do want Trump to have power, do
55:20 want Republican presidents more
55:23 generally to have power, but not when it
55:25 can start interfering with sort of the
55:27 traditional conservative legal
55:30 establishment, Wall Street types. Like
55:31 they are beholdened to that wing of the
55:34 conservative movement as well. And I
55:36 think they understand that if a
55:37 Republican president kicks off a
55:39 self-inflicted recession on their watch,
55:42 that's bad for the Republican party's
55:44 electoral future. But what they need to
55:46 do then is figure out a way they can
55:48 dispose of these tariffs or roll back
55:51 these tariffs without limiting their
55:53 power in the future. So I'll give two
55:55 examples. Brett Kavanaaugh at oral
55:58 argument said look f excuse me previous
56:02 presidents they've never tried to um
56:06 impose tariffs under this law IPA so
56:08 maybe that just suggests that you know
56:10 there's a common understanding that
56:12 doesn't allow presidents to do this sort
56:15 of similarly Amy Coney Barrett she said
56:17 look there are other federal laws that
56:19 explicitly allow presidents to impose
56:24 tariffs this law IPA does not So maybe
56:27 we can just resolve it this way. I think
56:29 the I think the thing to understand here
56:32 is that the major questions doctrine is
56:35 not and never was, you know, a a rule
56:37 that this court was going to apply
56:39 even-handedly. You were never going to
56:41 get John Roberts up there saying, "Well,
56:43 look, I mean, we said student debt
56:45 relief, that was a major question, so
56:47 tariffs, this must be a major question,
56:50 too." No. The less they say about the
56:52 major questions doctrine in the case,
56:55 the better for them because it preserves
56:57 the most flexibility for them going
57:00 forward of rolling back future sort of
57:03 progressive policies that Democratic
57:05 Democratic presidents might try out.
57:06 >> Okay, there's two things there I want to
57:09 address. Um uh one being and I know you
57:11 just have a couple of minutes left here,
57:14 but one being sort of like their that
57:18 whole their whole sort of strategic and
57:20 and tactical way in which they're sort
57:21 of reserving like they're making
57:24 decisions without really saying anything
57:27 about them. Uh so that they can't be
57:30 sort of held to account down the road on
57:31 some level. I want to get to that in a
57:33 second. But just those two things that
57:36 Kavanaaugh and Coney Barrett, they're so
57:40 desperate to uh to address this in that
57:43 matter. Like the idea I it seems to me I
57:44 mean with with Coney Barrett the idea
57:48 that like um
57:50 it emergency doesn't specifically call
57:52 but I mean the nature of an emergency is
57:54 like we don't know what's going to
57:57 succeed in that instance. Um, and so you
57:59 would imagine it's pretty broad what you
58:03 can do to address an emergency. Um, the
58:04 real question, it seems to me, is is
58:07 this an emergency? Like, and are they in
58:11 a position to make an assessment on the
58:13 facts in the case? Like, would that be a
58:15 more of like a factf finding? Is there
58:18 an emergency that would justify an
58:20 emergency response?
58:22 >> This actually came up at oral argument
58:24 as well. Like traditionally the courts
58:28 kind of defer to the elected branches as
58:30 to you know determining what an
58:33 emergency is but like what a coincidence
58:36 here that helps their favorite president
58:38 you know that's a point in his favor and
58:40 Justice Kagan brought this up at one
58:42 point um when the solicitor general said
58:45 well look under the law presidents they
58:47 have to formally declare emergencies so
58:49 that will that will prevent abuses of
58:53 power going forward and Kagan said, "All
58:54 this court has done for the last 9
58:58 months in two dozen straight cases is
59:00 give Trump what he wants when he asserts
59:03 emergency powers. All we've done is say
59:06 yes, Mr. President, this we like we are
59:08 we are not going to second guessess your
59:10 declaration of an emergency here." So
59:12 like that you're right, that's not
59:14 really a constraint on Trump's power.
59:17 It's more just like kind of a box he has
59:19 to check going through the motions. But
59:21 no, like the justices aren't going to
59:23 they aren't going to weigh in here and
59:25 say, you know, trade deficits aren't an
59:28 emergency now. Like they aren't. Anyone
59:30 who's been alive for the last 50 years
59:31 while this country's been running trade
59:33 deficits probably doesn't think that
59:35 this country has been in a half ccentury
59:38 straight of economic emergencies. So,
59:40 it's kind of like if Trump's going to
59:41 try it, then we move on to the next
59:44 order question of, well, can we, the
59:45 conservative justices, figure out a way
59:48 to keep these tariffs, or can we get rid
59:50 of them again for the the sake of the
59:53 Republican party's electoral future?
59:55 >> Um, all right. So, let's move to that
59:58 the other part. They want to protect the
60:00 uh major questions doctrine because the more that they write about how it works,
60:03 more that they write about how it works, the more it becomes something other than
60:05 the more it becomes something other than essentially a wild card that they can
60:07 essentially a wild card that they can apply whenever they deem fit because
60:11 apply whenever they deem fit because they're not bound by their own uh
60:15 they're not bound by their own uh restrictions or contours that they've
60:18 restrictions or contours that they've created for the application of of that
60:21 created for the application of of that doctrine in the past. And they're doing
60:23 doctrine in the past. And they're doing the same thing in the shadow docket.
60:25 the same thing in the shadow docket. Right.
60:26 Right. >> Right.
60:27 >> Right. >> Yeah. Walk us through that briefly.
60:29 >> Yeah. Walk us through that briefly. >> Sure. So, you know, the thesis of what I
60:32 >> Sure. So, you know, the thesis of what I wrote is that the less the conservative
60:35 wrote is that the less the conservative justices say about the major questions
60:37 justices say about the major questions doctrine, the better because then they
60:40 doctrine, the better because then they don't have to, you know, potentially
60:43 don't have to, you know, potentially deal reconcile what they say in this
60:45 deal reconcile what they say in this case with the major questions doctrine
60:48 case with the major questions doctrine next time they try to assert it. you
60:51 next time they try to assert it. you know, um, when President JB Pritsker
60:53 know, um, when President JB Pritsker tries to use executive power in some way
60:56 tries to use executive power in some way that they don't like. Now, there's also
60:58 that they don't like. Now, there's also a possibility, and this gets like a
61:00 a possibility, and this gets like a little in the weeds of how the courts
61:02 little in the weeds of how the courts court works, but it's like a
61:04 court works, but it's like a time-honored Roberts trick, so I want to
61:05 time-honored Roberts trick, so I want to bring it up. There's also a possibility
61:07 bring it up. There's also a possibility that a conservative justice tries to
61:10 that a conservative justice tries to write an opinion that, you know, strikes
61:12 write an opinion that, you know, strikes down or rolls back Trump's tariffs under
61:14 down or rolls back Trump's tariffs under the major questions doctrine to try to
61:16 the major questions doctrine to try to get the liberal justices to sign on to
61:18 get the liberal justices to sign on to it to endorse the major questions
61:20 it to endorse the major questions doctrine. And this is something that
61:22 doctrine. And this is something that John Roberts in particular loves doing.
61:24 John Roberts in particular loves doing. He's done it in a lot of the court's
61:26 He's done it in a lot of the court's voting rights cases. He's written sort
61:28 voting rights cases. He's written sort of narrow technical opinions that a
61:31 of narrow technical opinions that a liberal justice or two will sign on to
61:33 liberal justice or two will sign on to and then later when he uses that case
61:36 and then later when he uses that case to, you know, roll back significant
61:38 to, you know, roll back significant chunks of the Voting Rights Act, he'll
61:40 chunks of the Voting Rights Act, he'll say, "Well, look, this court's, you
61:41 say, "Well, look, this court's, you know, on a this court's across
61:43 know, on a this court's across ideological lines said this just a
61:46 ideological lines said this just a couple years ago. So, what are my
61:48 couple years ago. So, what are my liberal colleagues so upset about?" But
61:51 liberal colleagues so upset about?" But the point is either way, whether the
61:53 the point is either way, whether the justices don't say anything about the
61:55 justices don't say anything about the major questions doctrine or whether the
61:57 major questions doctrine or whether the conservatives try and, you know, get the
61:59 conservatives try and, you know, get the liberals to endorse it, they're not
62:02 liberals to endorse it, they're not going to do anything in this case that
62:04 going to do anything in this case that takes away their future power to
62:07 takes away their future power to interfere with Democratic policies. And
62:10 interfere with Democratic policies. And that's why you saw the Republican
62:11 that's why you saw the Republican justices spend so much time at oral
62:13 justices spend so much time at oral arguments talking about these very
62:16 arguments talking about these very technical offramps sort of for getting
62:18 technical offramps sort of for getting rid of this case in a way that um you
62:22 rid of this case in a way that um you know that wouldn't cast dispersions on
62:24 know that wouldn't cast dispersions on something even like their student debt
62:26 something even like their student debt case from two years ago.
62:28 case from two years ago. Um just another example of how these
62:32 Um just another example of how these guys are basically um working backwards
62:35 guys are basically um working backwards it seems to me from how they want to
62:38 it seems to me from how they want to rule on something and then sort of
62:39 rule on something and then sort of backfilling it with some type of
62:41 backfilling it with some type of rationale. Uh Jay Willis, editor-inchief
62:44 rationale. Uh Jay Willis, editor-inchief of Balls and Strikes. Uh we'll put a
62:46 of Balls and Strikes. Uh we'll put a link back uh to your work in that piece.
62:49 link back uh to your work in that piece. Uh really appreciate you coming on and
62:50 Uh really appreciate you coming on and talking to us about it.
62:52 talking to us about it. >> Thanks y'all so much for having me.
62:53 >> Thanks y'all so much for having me. Appreciate you.
62:54 Appreciate you. >> All right, folks. That's it for today.
62:57 >> All right, folks. That's it for today. at least for the uh first half of the
62:59 at least for the uh first half of the program.
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64:19 CRIME, CRIME, >> CRIME, CRIME,
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64:23 >> TOTAL NERVOUS BREAKDOWN. >> SHE WAS COOKING.
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64:33 >> Um, >> don't.
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65:21 and lastly folks, it is that time of year where we put out the call, the
65:23 year where we put out the call, the Clarion call
65:31 >> charge, sorry for best of. We want you to send us an email in the
65:34 We want you to send us an email in the subject line best of and tell us what
65:38 subject line best of and tell us what was your favorite interviews of the year
65:42 was your favorite interviews of the year or segments uh or whatnot.
65:46 or segments uh or whatnot. special bonus if you actually have a
65:48 special bonus if you actually have a time code if it's a clip
65:50 time code if it's a clip >> or yeah just a link to especially the
65:52 >> or yeah just a link to especially the fun uh half stuff because I'll put a fun
65:54 fun uh half stuff because I'll put a fun little montage together. We do uh I
65:58 little montage together. We do uh I don't know how many show 250 shows
66:01 don't know how many show 250 shows a year,
66:04 a year, something like that. And so if you say,
66:07 something like that. And so if you say, "Hey, that time with that guy went on to
66:09 "Hey, that time with that guy went on to talk about um you know uh economic
66:13 talk about um you know uh economic populism, that's going to be hard for us
66:17 populism, that's going to be hard for us [laughter] to find.
66:18 [laughter] to find. >> I don't remember who we had last week."
66:20 >> I don't remember who we had last week." >> Yeah, exactly. I mean, the whole point
66:22 >> Yeah, exactly. I mean, the whole point of the best ofves for me is like just to
66:24 of the best ofves for me is like just to remember what we did that year.
66:28 remember what we did that year. >> Definitely putting shirtless Russell
66:29 >> Definitely putting shirtless Russell Brand in there.
66:32 Brand in there. >> What's that?
66:33 >> What's that? >> Definitely putting shirtless Russell
66:34 >> Definitely putting shirtless Russell Brand in there with your
66:36 Brand in there with your >> That was uh I still haven't recovered
66:38 >> That was uh I still haven't recovered from that. Actually, [laughter]
66:41 from that. Actually, [laughter] I'm have to have to start like an
66:43 I'm have to have to start like an entirely new regimen of therapy just to
66:46 entirely new regimen of therapy just to get past that. Poly Market should have
66:49 get past that. Poly Market should have bets on how many more episodes Russ is
66:51 bets on how many more episodes Russ is going to appear on. [laughter]
66:54 going to appear on. [laughter] If he if he's saying like I'm going to
66:56 If he if he's saying like I'm going to be optimistic about Zoron and also not
66:58 be optimistic about Zoron and also not get out of bed for this like I don't
67:00 get out of bed for this like I don't know how much I
67:01 know how much I >> I mean Brian said that that uh clip for
67:04 >> I mean Brian said that that uh clip for them did very very well for them.
67:06 them did very very well for them. >> For them
67:06 >> For them >> and I I I'm like I would put the odds of
67:11 >> and I I I'm like I would put the odds of Dave Rubin saying to Russell like hey
67:13 Dave Rubin saying to Russell like hey man maybe take a shirt off again. Maybe
67:16 man maybe take a shirt off again. Maybe they'll all be shirtless.
67:18 they'll all be shirtless. >> Exactly. [laughter]
67:19 >> Exactly. [laughter] >> Just gonna be my god.
67:21 >> Just gonna be my god. >> How awesome would it be if people showed
67:23 >> How awesome would it be if people showed up one day uh in the majority report we
67:25 up one day uh in the majority report we just started and I was just lounging in
67:27 just started and I was just lounging in my
67:30 my >> I think it's not great for like ad
67:32 >> I think it's not great for like ad revenue though. Don't don't doesn't it
67:34 revenue though. Don't don't doesn't it don't been shirtless doesn't that count
67:37 don't been shirtless doesn't that count against the algorithm?
67:38 against the algorithm? >> I've uh I I get demonetized if I go down
67:40 >> I've uh I I get demonetized if I go down below this uh this button. We get
67:43 below this uh this button. We get demonetized immediately. though
67:45 demonetized immediately. though [laughter]
67:47 [laughter] that
67:48 that >> Thank God.
67:48 >> Thank God. >> Yeah, exactly.
67:51 >> Yeah, exactly. >> Actual friends.
67:52 >> Actual friends. >> Um, actual friends.
67:55 >> Um, actual friends. >> Got to subscribe to that.
67:57 >> Got to subscribe to that. >> Uh, what's happening on actual Left
67:59 >> Uh, what's happening on actual Left Reckoning?
68:00 Reckoning? >> Uh, it's actually changing times. It's
68:02 >> Uh, it's actually changing times. It's no longer tonight. It's going to be uh
68:04 no longer tonight. It's going to be uh right after the show today at 2:30.
68:06 right after the show today at 2:30. Check it out. We'll be playing it uh out
68:09 Check it out. We'll be playing it uh out for folks. So, uh, you know, uh, we got
68:12 for folks. So, uh, you know, uh, we got Katherine Lu on talking about the PMC
68:14 Katherine Lu on talking about the PMC and also, uh, Nick Bolan talking about
68:16 and also, uh, Nick Bolan talking about Orphan Wells in Oklahoma, and we, uh,
68:19 Orphan Wells in Oklahoma, and we, uh, uh, respond to the, uh, caving by
68:21 uh, respond to the, uh, caving by Schumer a little bit. So, yeah, check
68:23 Schumer a little bit. So, yeah, check that out today. And, uh, Jackabin show
68:26 that out today. And, uh, Jackabin show Friday morning at 10:00 a.m. So, look
68:28 Friday morning at 10:00 a.m. So, look over for the Jacabin, uh, YouTube page
68:31 over for the Jacabin, uh, YouTube page because we'll be there, too, as well.
68:32 because we'll be there, too, as well. >> Now, does it start at 2:30 exactly? Or
68:34 >> Now, does it start at 2:30 exactly? Or what if we we do what if we we go 2:30?
68:37 what if we we do what if we we go 2:30? >> What if we go to 230? What if we go to
68:39 >> What if we go to 230? What if we go to 240?
68:39 240? >> That's fine. Just we'll just lose
68:41 >> That's fine. Just we'll just lose audience for majority of poor because
68:42 audience for majority of poor because everyone's going to rush right over to
68:44 everyone's going to rush right over to >> So you're going to be on two shows at
68:45 >> So you're going to be on two shows at once on Fridays.
68:47 once on Fridays. >> No, on Tuesday.
68:48 >> No, on Tuesday. >> 10 a.m.
68:49 >> 10 a.m. >> Yeah, it's 10:00 a.m.
68:50 >> Yeah, it's 10:00 a.m. >> 10 a.m. How long is this?
68:53 >> 10 a.m. How long is this? >> It's not going to be live.
68:54 >> It's not going to be live. >> We'll be live at 10 a.m. on Fridays.
68:57 >> We'll be live at 10 a.m. on Fridays. >> We're live at 10 a.m. on Fridays.
68:59 >> We're live at 10 a.m. on Fridays. >> Oh, no. Never mind. I'm here at 10 a.m.
69:01 >> Oh, no. Never mind. I'm here at 10 a.m. So I [laughter]
69:03 So I [laughter] >> I assume the whole thing's the show.
69:05 >> I assume the whole thing's the show. Brian hasn't figured it out that it
69:07 Brian hasn't figured it out that it starts when the camera comes on.
69:08 starts when the camera comes on. >> A little thing called recording in
69:10 >> A little thing called recording in advance.
69:11 advance. >> I don't understand.
69:13 >> I don't understand. >> Brian's having a tough time today.
69:14 >> Brian's having a tough time today. >> I shouldn't even be here today.
69:16 >> I shouldn't even be here today. Honestly,
69:16 Honestly, >> it's true. It's Veterans Day. So, I just
69:19 >> it's true. It's Veterans Day. So, I just want you to know we did the show in
69:21 want you to know we did the show in honor of Brian. And I made it clear. I
69:23 honor of Brian. And I made it clear. I said, uh, you know, don't come in
69:26 said, uh, you know, don't come in tomorrow. And he refused because of his,
69:29 tomorrow. And he refused because of his, um, uh, what is it? The the oppositional
69:32 um, uh, what is it? The the oppositional >> defiance.
69:33 >> defiance. >> Defiance disorder. So refused refused
69:35 >> Defiance disorder. So refused refused orders. [laughter]
69:38 orders. [laughter] >> Ungovernable.
69:39 >> Ungovernable. >> He's It's impossible around here.
69:43 >> He's It's impossible around here. >> Uh Emma took off in uh took off for
69:46 >> Uh Emma took off in uh took off for Veterans Day today.
69:48 Veterans Day today. >> She's ducking my thank you for my
69:50 >> She's ducking my thank you for my service.
69:51 service. >> Exactly. Stolen valor.
69:53 >> Exactly. Stolen valor. >> Yeah,
69:54 >> Yeah, >> folks. See you in a fun half.
70:00 >> Three months from now, six months from now, nine months from now. And I don't
70:02 now, nine months from now. And I don't think it's going to be the same as it
70:03 think it's going to be the same as it looks like in six months from now. And I
70:05 looks like in six months from now. And I don't know if it's necessarily going to
70:06 don't know if it's necessarily going to be better six months from now than it is
70:08 be better six months from now than it is three months from now, but I think
70:10 three months from now, but I think around 18 months out, we're going to
70:12 around 18 months out, we're going to look back and go like, "Wow.
70:15 look back and go like, "Wow. What? What is that going on? It's nuts."
70:21 What? What is that going on? It's nuts." >> Wait a second. Hold on for hold on for a
70:22 >> Wait a second. Hold on for hold on for a second.
70:28 >> Emma, welcome to the program. >> Hey,
70:30 >> Hey, >> Matt.
70:31 >> Matt. Fun hack.
70:32 Fun hack. >> What is up everyone?
70:34 >> What is up everyone? >> Fun hack.
70:35 >> Fun hack. >> No me key.
70:36 >> No me key. >> You did it.
70:37 >> You did it. >> Fun hat.
70:38 >> Fun hat. >> Let's go Brandon.
70:39 >> Let's go Brandon. >> Let's go Brandon.
70:40 >> Let's go Brandon. >> Fun half.
70:45 >> Bradley. You want to say hello? Uh, sorry to disappoint everyone. I'm just a
70:48 sorry to disappoint everyone. I'm just a random guy.
70:48 random guy. >> It's all the boys today.
70:50 >> It's all the boys today. >> Fundamentally false.
70:51 >> Fundamentally false. >> No, I'm sorry. Women.
70:52 >> No, I'm sorry. Women. >> Stop talking for a second and let me
70:54 >> Stop talking for a second and let me finish.
70:55 finish. >> Where is this coming from, dude?
70:56 >> Where is this coming from, dude? >> But dude, uh, you want to smoke this um,
70:59 >> But dude, uh, you want to smoke this um, seven? Yes.
71:05 >> Hi, this is me. >> Is this me?
71:06 >> Is this me? >> Yes.
71:08 >> Yes. [music]
71:10 [music] >> Is this me?
71:11 >> Is this me? >> Is it me?
71:12 >> Is it me? >> It is you.
71:17 >> Is this me? Hello. It's me. >> I think it is you. Who is you?
71:21 >> I think it is you. Who is you? [music]
71:21 [music] >> No sound. Every single freaking day.
71:25 >> No sound. Every single freaking day. What's on your mind? Sport.
71:26 What's on your mind? Sport. >> We can discuss free markets and we can
71:28 >> We can discuss free markets and we can discuss capitalism. [music]
71:29 discuss capitalism. [music] Oh god,
71:30 Oh god, >> I'm going to go
71:31 >> I'm going to go >> libertarians. They're so stupid though.
71:33 >> libertarians. They're so stupid though. Common sense says, "Of course."
71:35 Common sense says, "Of course." >> Gobbled
71:36 >> Gobbled >> We nailed it.
71:37 >> We nailed it. >> So what's 79 + 21? [music]
71:39 >> So what's 79 + 21? [music] >> Challenge M.
71:40 >> Challenge M. >> I'm positively quivering.
71:41 >> I'm positively quivering. >> I believe 96. I want to say 8572108501
71:49 38 91 >> $3,400 $1,900
71:52 >> $3,400 $1,900 543 [music]
71:53 543 [music] trillion sold. It's a zero sum game.
71:57 trillion sold. It's a zero sum game. Actually, you're making me think less of
71:59 Actually, you're making me think less of >> But but let me say this poop. [laughter]
72:02 >> But but let me say this poop. [laughter] >> You call it satire. Zim goes satire.
72:04 >> You call it satire. Zim goes satire. >> On top of it all,
72:06 >> On top of it all, >> my favorite part about you is just like
72:08 >> my favorite part about you is just like every day, all day, like everything you
72:10 every day, all day, like everything you do.
72:10 do. >> Without a doubt. Hey, buddy. [music] We
72:12 >> Without a doubt. Hey, buddy. [music] We see you.
72:23 >> it's just the week being weeded out, obviously.
72:23 obviously. >> Yeah. Sun's out, guns out.
72:27 >> Yeah. Sun's out, guns out. >> [music]
72:28 >> [music] >> I I I don't know.
72:30 >> I I I don't know. >> But you should know.
72:33 >> But you should know. >> People just don't like to entertain
72:34 >> People just don't like to entertain ideas anymore.
72:35 ideas anymore. >> I have a question. Who cares?
72:39 >> I have a question. Who cares? [music]
72:39 [music] >> Our chat is enabled.
72:41 >> Our chat is enabled. >> I love it.
72:42 >> I love it. >> I do love that. [music]
72:45 >> I do love that. [music] >> Um, got to jump. You got to be quick. I
72:46 >> Um, got to jump. You got to be quick. I got to jump.
72:47 got to jump. >> I'm losing it, bro.
72:51 >> I'm losing it, bro. >> 2:00. [music] We're already late. And
72:52 >> 2:00. [music] We're already late. And the guy's being a dick, so screw him. Um
72:56 the guy's being a dick, so screw him. Um um sent to a goologous. Like what is
72:59 um sent to a goologous. Like what is wrong with you?
73:02 wrong with you? >> Love you. Bye.
73:04 >> Love you. Bye. >> Love you. Bye-bye.
73:16 We are back. Sam Cedar on the Majority Report. Emma Viglin out today.
73:19 Report. Emma Viglin out today. We'll take your phone calls in a bit.
73:23 We'll take your phone calls in a bit. In a bit.
73:25 In a bit. Uh crusty gnome idea for fun best of fun
73:28 Uh crusty gnome idea for fun best of fun half anytime PBD brought out the map of
73:31 half anytime PBD brought out the map of consciousness or Vinnie screaming send
73:32 consciousness or Vinnie screaming send us an email.
73:33 us an email. >> Oh I mean the map of consciousness will
73:35 >> Oh I mean the map of consciousness will be there.
73:36 be there. >> It's already in there actually. I put it
73:37 >> It's already in there actually. I put it in there.
73:38 in there. >> Um Alex B. Yes. This is actually a good
73:42 >> Um Alex B. Yes. This is actually a good point. Did you hear the continuing
73:44 point. Did you hear the continuing resolution also bans full spectrum
73:46 resolution also bans full spectrum sebade and say maximum point4 milligrams
73:49 sebade and say maximum point4 milligrams per container?
73:52 per container? Uh Ran Paul tried to get this out. There
73:54 Uh Ran Paul tried to get this out. There was a big fight um amongst the Kentucky
73:56 was a big fight um amongst the Kentucky senators. McConnell uh put this in and
74:00 senators. McConnell uh put this in and um uh Ran Paul tried to get it out. It's
74:02 um uh Ran Paul tried to get it out. It's not going to go into effect until 2027,
74:05 not going to go into effect until 2027, but um it is an issue. There was a
74:09 but um it is an issue. There was a couple of things in this, you know,
74:10 couple of things in this, you know, continuing resolution that um uh and
74:13 continuing resolution that um uh and that being one of them uh that they went
74:16 that being one of them uh that they went after hemp.
74:19 after hemp. Why? Because
74:30 alcohol consumption is down >> and whiskey Kentucky. Yes. and that
74:34 >> and whiskey Kentucky. Yes. and that McConnell was was doing this for uh
74:37 McConnell was was doing this for uh whiskey and anecdotally
74:38 whiskey and anecdotally >> and I cannot remember
74:40 >> and I cannot remember >> I cannot [laughter]
74:41 >> I cannot [laughter] I cannot remember who the other uh
74:43 I cannot remember who the other uh senator it was that paired up with
74:45 senator it was that paired up with McConnell but I bet they come from a
74:47 McConnell but I bet they come from a state where there is a big beer brewer
74:50 state where there is a big beer brewer or somebody like that. So I think it is
74:54 or somebody like that. So I think it is because I mean let's be honest folks um
74:58 because I mean let's be honest folks um 0.1
75:01 0.1 milligrams is that what it is? Yeah. 0.1
75:02 milligrams is that what it is? Yeah. 0.1 milligrams.
75:05 milligrams. That's the stuff like guys like me, you
75:07 That's the stuff like guys like me, you know, that's what we take to have fun
75:11 know, that's what we take to have fun cuz
75:13 cuz and.5 when I'm feeling like it's a
75:16 and.5 when I'm feeling like it's a weekend, maybe the first day of the
75:18 weekend, maybe the first day of the weekend, [laughter]
75:20 weekend, [laughter] but if there's anything else like you
75:22 but if there's anything else like you know, if it gets any stronger, then I'm
75:24 know, if it gets any stronger, then I'm in trouble. But the point is like the it
75:27 in trouble. But the point is like the it it is for your average person.
75:31 it is for your average person. Um, that's not very much, but it's just
75:34 Um, that's not very much, but it's just enough to be able like on a week night,
75:36 enough to be able like on a week night, I think. Like, okay, it's like the
75:38 I think. Like, okay, it's like the equivalent of having, you know, two
75:39 equivalent of having, you know, two glasses of wine.
75:43 glasses of wine. And the problem is is that liquor
75:46 And the problem is is that liquor consumption is way down. Problem is, for
75:48 consumption is way down. Problem is, for them, liquor consumption is way down.
75:52 them, liquor consumption is way down. So, I have a feeling that's what it is.
75:54 So, I have a feeling that's what it is. It may be revisited. We've got a year,
76:01 but um >> what are the odds uh McConnell knows he
76:04 >> what are the odds uh McConnell knows he did that [laughter]
76:12 >> knows that he put in that THC ban? >> I mean, it's quite possible that he has
76:16 >> I mean, it's quite possible that he has absolutely no idea.
76:23 Supposedly, supposedly I read a piece that said like McConnell wants this as
76:26 that said like McConnell wants this as part of his agricultural uh legislation
76:30 part of his agricultural uh legislation legacy. [laughter]
76:46 All right. Uh let's get into this. Here is uh Bernie Sanders. Yesterday,
76:51 is uh Bernie Sanders. Yesterday, in the
76:53 in the attempt to justify their caving,
76:57 attempt to justify their caving, six of the eight
77:00 six of the eight Democrats in the Senate who vote voted
77:03 Democrats in the Senate who vote voted to uh cave at the height height of their
77:07 to uh cave at the height height of their leverage at the height of their
77:08 leverage at the height of their leverage. Understand?
77:14 I don't know what donors it is that they needed to um uh help. I don't know if
77:17 needed to um uh help. I don't know if they were doing solids for other uh
77:21 they were doing solids for other uh Democratic senators who wanted to cave,
77:23 Democratic senators who wanted to cave, but it was at the height of the
77:25 but it was at the height of the leverage. In other words, where the
77:27 leverage. In other words, where the leverage was at its height.
77:32 I don't know how to articulate that anymore. Like this was not just a cave.
77:35 anymore. Like this was not just a cave. It was an epic cave. It in fact, it's
77:37 It was an epic cave. It in fact, it's not a cave because a cave implies like
77:41 not a cave because a cave implies like the weight of something just became too
77:43 the weight of something just became too much and it and it it collapsed. This
77:46 much and it and it it collapsed. This was literally like um going into a cave
77:51 was literally like um going into a cave that is pretty sturdy and then blowing
77:54 that is pretty sturdy and then blowing it up
77:56 it up because the there was never a moment
78:00 because the there was never a moment in the course of the shutdown where
78:02 in the course of the shutdown where Democrats were in a better position.
78:04 Democrats were in a better position. Donald Trump had his lowest approval
78:06 Donald Trump had his lowest approval rating.
78:09 rating. Not not of the month, not of the year,
78:12 Not not of the month, not of the year, not of the term. His lowest approval
78:15 not of the term. His lowest approval rating.
78:17 rating. Republicans blamed for the shutdown.
78:25 >> Sort of like punting in the red zone for our football fans.
78:27 our football fans. >> Yes. You're at the 20 yard line and
78:29 >> Yes. You're at the 20 yard line and you're like, should we take a field
78:30 you're like, should we take a field goal? No, actually, let's punt.
78:33 goal? No, actually, let's punt. [laughter]
78:37 >> And it's first down. >> They'll have the
78:38 >> They'll have the they'll have really really bad um uh uh
78:44 they'll have really really bad um uh uh field position, unless of course we punt
78:46 field position, unless of course we punt it into the end zone, in which case
78:48 it into the end zone, in which case they'll actually be a yard ahead of us
78:49 they'll actually be a yard ahead of us where we are now. Here's Bernie Sanders
78:53 where we are now. Here's Bernie Sanders um addressing Angus King's attempt to
78:57 um addressing Angus King's attempt to argue yesterday that
79:00 argue yesterday that um
79:01 um the the two points of the shutdown were
79:04 the the two points of the shutdown were to get the ACA ex subsidy extensions and
79:08 to get the ACA ex subsidy extensions and to um uh deal with Donald Trump to uh
79:14 to um uh deal with Donald Trump to uh inhibit his power. And uh he said we
79:18 inhibit his power. And uh he said we didn't do it either.
79:20 didn't do it either. Your fellow [snorts] independent from
79:22 Your fellow [snorts] independent from New England, uh, Senator Angus King, was
79:24 New England, uh, Senator Angus King, was asked this morning to respond to to your
79:26 asked this morning to respond to to your criticisms of the Democrats who voted
79:28 criticisms of the Democrats who voted yes last night. He said, his response
79:30 yes last night. He said, his response was, "What's your strategy, man?" And
79:32 was, "What's your strategy, man?" And quote, "Standing up to Donald Trump
79:35 quote, "Standing up to Donald Trump didn't work."
79:36 didn't work." >> Well, I think maybe Angus didn't notice
79:39 >> Well, I think maybe Angus didn't notice the elections on Tuesday. I thought that
79:41 the elections on Tuesday. I thought that they worked pretty well. Uh maybe Angus
79:44 they worked pretty well. Uh maybe Angus is not noticing the polling which shows
79:47 is not noticing the polling which shows that correctly people understand that
79:49 that correctly people understand that Republicans control the White House, the
79:52 Republicans control the White House, the Senate and the House. They are holding
79:53 Senate and the House. They are holding Republicans accountable and you got to
79:56 Republicans accountable and you got to stand firm. This is tough stuff and
79:58 stand firm. This is tough stuff and Angus is right. A lot of people are
79:59 Angus is right. A lot of people are hurting. Nobody feels good about this.
80:01 hurting. Nobody feels good about this. Nobody feels good about federal
80:03 Nobody feels good about federal employees not getting a paycheck. But we
80:05 employees not getting a paycheck. But we are winning in my view. I think the
80:07 are winning in my view. I think the Republicans are on the defensive and in
80:10 Republicans are on the defensive and in my view it was the vote uh that Angus
80:13 my view it was the vote uh that Angus cast was the wrong vote.
80:15 cast was the wrong vote. >> All right. Okay.
80:22 There's no other a like what does standing up to Donald Trump working look
80:24 standing up to Donald Trump working look like if it doesn't look like the biggest
80:27 like if it doesn't look like the biggest Democratic win you could have possibly
80:29 Democratic win you could have possibly had last Tuesday? The biggest. It
80:32 had last Tuesday? The biggest. It couldn't have been better.
80:35 couldn't have been better. Nobody can point to a single race that
80:38 Nobody can point to a single race that the Democrats lost that they uh that
80:40 the Democrats lost that they uh that they should have won.
80:43 they should have won. Nobody can even point to a single race
80:45 Nobody can even point to a single race that the Republicans
80:47 that the Republicans were sort of favored and won.
80:52 were sort of favored and won. The polling's all on the side.
80:55 The polling's all on the side. The question is why did they do it? I
80:57 The question is why did they do it? I have an idea. But here's uh uh Bernie
80:59 have an idea. But here's uh uh Bernie Sanders on Brian Tyler Cohen. Even if by
81:03 Sanders on Brian Tyler Cohen. Even if by some miracle you got 60 votes, where do
81:05 some miracle you got 60 votes, where do you think that that amendment would go?
81:09 you think that that amendment would go? >> Right.
81:09 >> Right. >> Speaker Johnson has made it very clear
81:11 >> Speaker Johnson has made it very clear that he's not going to entertain it.
81:13 that he's not going to entertain it. Trump would never cite it. So it is an
81:16 Trump would never cite it. So it is an empty gesture and that bothers me. It
81:18 empty gesture and that bothers me. It bothers me that people want to raise
81:20 bothers me that people want to raise false hopes. Oh, we're going to bring
81:22 false hopes. Oh, we're going to bring forth an an amendment. That amendment is
81:25 forth an an amendment. That amendment is ain't going to go any place. Period. End
81:28 ain't going to go any place. Period. End of discussion.
81:30 of discussion. >> Just make it clear. He's talking about
81:33 >> Just make it clear. He's talking about the concession that was extracted from
81:36 the concession that was extracted from Republicans, a vote in the Senate on
81:41 Republicans, a vote in the Senate on maintaining the ACA subsidies.
81:45 maintaining the ACA subsidies. A, it's it's destined to lose in the
81:48 A, it's it's destined to lose in the Senate. B, even if it won in the Senate,
81:50 Senate. B, even if it won in the Senate, it is not going to be voted on in the
81:52 it is not going to be voted on in the House. And as we know from those little
81:55 House. And as we know from those little cartoons uh when we were kids,
81:58 cartoons uh when we were kids, it's got to be passed both in the House
82:00 it's got to be passed both in the House and the Senate to actually get um signed
82:04 and the Senate to actually get um signed into law, assuming that Donald Trump
82:06 into law, assuming that Donald Trump would sign it into law, which of course
82:08 would sign it into law, which of course he's not going to.
82:11 he's not going to. Why did they do this? I think uh the
82:14 Why did they do this? I think uh the biggest reason is if you look at these
82:18 biggest reason is if you look at these Senate Democrats
82:20 Senate Democrats that voted for this, they either did it
82:23 that voted for this, they either did it on behalf of other people or themselves.
82:27 on behalf of other people or themselves. This was to protect the filibuster
82:31 This was to protect the filibuster because the Republicans were had two
82:34 because the Republicans were had two choices.
82:35 choices. They were either a, this is if the
82:38 They were either a, this is if the Democrats held out, they would either a
82:42 Democrats held out, they would either a capitulate to the Democrats, extend the
82:45 capitulate to the Democrats, extend the Obamacare subsidies, which they probably
82:47 Obamacare subsidies, which they probably wanted to do, but they
82:51 wanted to do, but they these people are so deranged
82:54 these people are so deranged that even just the idea that they would
82:57 that even just the idea that they would lose to the Democrats
83:04 is enough to say that even if the the losing to Democrats means that we
83:06 losing to Democrats means that we actually help our constituents and help
83:08 actually help our constituents and help us electorally because the constituents
83:10 us electorally because the constituents are not as upset. They still won't do
83:13 are not as upset. They still won't do that because this is an authoritarian
83:15 that because this is an authoritarian regime and you can never ever let your
83:19 regime and you can never ever let your opponents win anything, get any type of
83:21 opponents win anything, get any type of win. We saw it.
83:25 win. We saw it. We saw when Trump said, "Don't let Biden
83:27 We saw when Trump said, "Don't let Biden get a win. Don't do anything
83:28 get a win. Don't do anything bipartisan."
83:31 bipartisan." They understand this dynamic.
83:34 They understand this dynamic. So, if they weren't going to concede to
83:37 So, if they weren't going to concede to the Democrats, they had one other option
83:40 the Democrats, they had one other option where they literally could just pass
83:42 where they literally could just pass whatever they wanted to. They've done
83:45 whatever they wanted to. They've done this on three occasions already just
83:47 this on three occasions already just this year, and that is suspend or get
83:51 this year, and that is suspend or get rid of the filibuster. Filibuster is not
83:54 rid of the filibuster. Filibuster is not a law. The 60 vote threshold is not a
83:57 a law. The 60 vote threshold is not a law. It is a tradition in the Senate
84:00 law. It is a tradition in the Senate essentially.
84:02 essentially. and they could easily just say we're
84:05 and they could easily just say we're going to have a vote to change the
84:06 going to have a vote to change the rules. The parliamentarian says uh you
84:08 rules. The parliamentarian says uh you can't really do that. Uh and then um the
84:12 can't really do that. Uh and then um the uh John Thun says, "Hey, remember when
84:15 uh John Thun says, "Hey, remember when we changed the way that we were going to
84:17 we changed the way that we were going to account for the budget in the big
84:20 account for the budget in the big beautiful bill
84:22 beautiful bill forever, we have always said if
84:25 forever, we have always said if something's going to expire,
84:29 something's going to expire, let's say these tax cuts are going to
84:30 let's say these tax cuts are going to expire, when we account for the cost of
84:33 expire, when we account for the cost of the bill that follows it,
84:41 we um use an accounting method where basically say, "Okay, the tax cuts are
84:42 basically say, "Okay, the tax cuts are going to expire. We're going to assume
84:44 going to expire. We're going to assume they're going to go back up to where
84:45 they're going to go back up to where they were because the tax cuts expire,
84:48 they were because the tax cuts expire, and if we cut from there, that's going
84:50 and if we cut from there, that's going to cost the government something." They
84:53 to cost the government something." They unilaterally decided
84:56 unilaterally decided that they were going to change the way
84:57 that they were going to change the way they were accounting. So, the big
84:59 they were accounting. So, the big beautiful bill looked like it cost less.
85:01 beautiful bill looked like it cost less. Now, everybody knows it didn't, but it
85:03 Now, everybody knows it didn't, but it on paper it looked like it cost less.
85:06 on paper it looked like it cost less. That was one time they got rid of the
85:07 That was one time they got rid of the filibuster. The other time was when they
85:09 filibuster. The other time was when they wanted to override California uh
85:10 wanted to override California uh environmental standards. They overrode
85:13 environmental standards. They overrode the filibuster. They could have done it
85:14 the filibuster. They could have done it this time
85:18 this time and and Trump would have forced them to
85:19 and and Trump would have forced them to do it eventually, the Republicans, but
85:24 do it eventually, the Republicans, but the Democrats still they are so
85:27 the Democrats still they are so institutionally blind. They are such
85:30 institutionally blind. They are such institutionalists. They are so um
85:34 institutionalists. They are so um determined to get back to normaly even
85:36 determined to get back to normaly even though it is quite clear there's another
85:38 though it is quite clear there's another party
85:40 party that is not normal
85:42 that is not normal that is fullon authoritarian at this
85:44 that is fullon authoritarian at this point.
85:46 point. They wanted to protect the filibuster.
85:48 They wanted to protect the filibuster. They wanted to protect the filibuster
85:49 They wanted to protect the filibuster more than those Republicans because if
85:51 more than those Republicans because if the Republicans wanted to make it easy
85:53 the Republicans wanted to make it easy for the Democrats to cave, they could
85:56 for the Democrats to cave, they could have said, "Okay, we'll do half
85:58 have said, "Okay, we'll do half subsidies. we'll do subsidies for a
86:01 subsidies. we'll do subsidies for a year. We'll do subsidies for six months.
86:06 year. We'll do subsidies for six months. But they didn't because they knew
86:08 But they didn't because they knew Democrats are going to cave.
86:14 And why is it so important to people like Chuck Schumer,
86:22 Katherine Masto Cortez, Jackie Rosen,
86:24 Jackie Rosen, Tim Kaine?
86:26 Tim Kaine? Why is it so important to them to have
86:28 Why is it so important to them to have the filibuster?
86:30 the filibuster? so that they can vote
86:32 so that they can vote for policies that their voters want and
86:36 for policies that their voters want and know that it won't go into effect
86:39 know that it won't go into effect because they don't have 60 votes because
86:42 because they don't have 60 votes because they can't get the extra 10 votes they
86:44 they can't get the extra 10 votes they need or five votes they need from the
86:46 need or five votes they need from the Republicans. This is down the road.
86:49 Republicans. This is down the road. That's it. Like this is
86:55 you want to talk about something that is really about like a class war. This is
86:58 really about like a class war. This is what it is
87:00 what it is because
87:02 because they're not even the for Jean Shaheen.
87:05 they're not even the for Jean Shaheen. She may never even have she's never
87:06 She may never even have she's never going to take this vote. She's going to
87:09 going to take this vote. She's going to be uh she's going to retire before
87:11 be uh she's going to retire before Democrats could ever take uh control of
87:14 Democrats could ever take uh control of the Senate. [snorts]
87:23 But this is they the the US Senate was set up to protect the interests of
87:26 set up to protect the interests of money. I'm talking in our constitution.
87:29 money. I'm talking in our constitution. When this country started, you couldn't
87:30 When this country started, you couldn't even vote directly for the senators.
87:33 even vote directly for the senators. >> Should we should have called the House
87:34 >> Should we should have called the House of Lords because I think people
87:35 of Lords because I think people understand what it means when you call
87:37 understand what it means when you call it that.
87:37 it that. >> 100%.
87:44 And the filibuster is there to thwart
87:50 And if you look at it historically and you look at it statistically,
87:52 you look at it statistically, it thwarts progressive measures by a 5
87:57 it thwarts progressive measures by a 5 to1 margin
88:00 to1 margin because the only thing that Republicans
88:02 because the only thing that Republicans ultimately want
88:05 ultimately want proactively is tax cuts. And there's
88:07 proactively is tax cuts. And there's always a reconciliation bill which is
88:09 always a reconciliation bill which is avoids the filibuster.
88:16 And so they never have to worry about any, you know, whatever their agenda is.
88:21 any, you know, whatever their agenda is. But
88:23 But in terms of uh progressives
88:26 in terms of uh progressives or just even like mainstream Democrats,
88:30 or just even like mainstream Democrats, this allows Tim Kaine to vote for
88:33 this allows Tim Kaine to vote for whatever progressive health care measure
88:36 whatever progressive health care measure down the road he might be faced with
88:38 down the road he might be faced with having to vote for. He needs to be able
88:40 having to vote for. He needs to be able to justify it to his constituents. I
88:42 to justify it to his constituents. I voted for it,
88:44 voted for it, but it was a safe vote because you knew
88:46 but it was a safe vote because you knew it was never going to pass because it
88:47 it was never going to pass because it because of the filibuster.
88:53 I mean, the thing is is that if we got rid of the filibuster, you know what the
88:55 rid of the filibuster, you know what the Republicans would do? You know what they
88:56 Republicans would do? You know what they would pass
88:59 would pass it? Try and come up with something. They
89:02 it? Try and come up with something. They have no other agenda. They did it
89:04 have no other agenda. They did it already, which is cut taxes.
89:07 already, which is cut taxes. They did it. They already did everything
89:10 They did it. They already did everything that they wanted to do. The only the
89:11 that they wanted to do. The only the only thing would be that they would pass
89:14 only thing would be that they would pass would be some ways of ostensibly and I
89:17 would be some ways of ostensibly and I don't know how they would do this and
89:18 don't know how they would do this and they you know they're not always right
89:20 they you know they're not always right of inhibiting the vote in 2026
89:24 of inhibiting the vote in 2026 but states are doing that anyways.
89:28 but states are doing that anyways. The filibuster is a tool by the re
89:30 The filibuster is a tool by the re Democratic establishment more than any
89:32 Democratic establishment more than any other
89:35 other to uh thwart progressive uh change and
89:39 to uh thwart progressive uh change and and blame it on somebody else.
89:43 and blame it on somebody else. And that's why they voted this way
89:45 And that's why they voted this way because they didn't want Donald Trump to
89:46 because they didn't want Donald Trump to force the Republicans to get rid of the
89:47 force the Republicans to get rid of the filibuster.
89:56 Choco Chuck always chickens out. [laughter]
90:00 I think we're going to use that. >> Should have told them it was about like
90:02 >> Should have told them it was about like um taking sanctions off Iran or
90:04 um taking sanctions off Iran or something.
90:05 something. >> Exactly.
90:06 >> Exactly. >> Now, I will say the other the there, you
90:09 >> Now, I will say the other the there, you know, there there are other aspects to
90:11 know, there there are other aspects to it.
90:13 it. I think preser preservation of the
90:16 I think preser preservation of the filibuster was probably one of the
90:17 filibuster was probably one of the primary reasons uh was the primary
90:20 primary reasons uh was the primary reason why the Democrats uh caved in the
90:22 reason why the Democrats uh caved in the way they did. But I think as a second
90:25 way they did. But I think as a second order issue, what was happening with a
90:28 order issue, what was happening with a airlines was going to put enough
90:31 airlines was going to put enough pressure on the Republicans where they
90:32 pressure on the Republicans where they would get rid of the filibuster to just
90:35 would get rid of the filibuster to just pass it if the Democrats didn't cave.
90:37 pass it if the Democrats didn't cave. Here is Donald Trump.
90:41 Here is Donald Trump. I mean, imagine, first of all, being an
90:43 I mean, imagine, first of all, being an air traffic controller is probably one
90:45 air traffic controller is probably one of the most stressful jobs that exists.
90:48 of the most stressful jobs that exists. You're constantly like, uh, if I
90:50 You're constantly like, uh, if I up, I'm going to kill a lot of people.
90:52 up, I'm going to kill a lot of people. Um, it's like performing surgery on
90:56 Um, it's like performing surgery on 200 people every hour simultaneously,
91:00 200 people every hour simultaneously, [laughter]
91:01 [laughter] right? Like if I mess up here, you know,
91:04 right? Like if I mess up here, you know, you do one surgery, one potentially
91:07 you do one surgery, one potentially life-threatening surgery a day and I
91:09 life-threatening surgery a day and I would imagine that's pretty exhausting.
91:10 would imagine that's pretty exhausting. But if you've got to do that like on 200
91:12 But if you've got to do that like on 200 people simultaneously and then five
91:14 people simultaneously and then five minutes later you got to do it again.
91:16 minutes later you got to do it again. That would be uh
91:17 That would be uh >> also I'm driving Uber shifts after work
91:19 >> also I'm driving Uber shifts after work >> and you're Yes. You're completely
91:22 >> and you're Yes. You're completely screwed over. Now imagine uh you're
91:25 screwed over. Now imagine uh you're understaffed so it's even tougher.
91:30 understaffed so it's even tougher. There's one nurse running from every uh
91:32 There's one nurse running from every uh you know every uh bed possible running
91:35 you know every uh bed possible running around essentially. And now imagine
91:38 around essentially. And now imagine you're not getting paid.
91:41 you're not getting paid. So you're at work, you're in a highly
91:43 So you're at work, you're in a highly stressful job. You are completely
91:45 stressful job. You are completely understaffed
91:48 understaffed and you have in the back of your head of
91:51 and you have in the back of your head of like, uh, is my landlord going to kick
91:52 like, uh, is my landlord going to kick me out? Uh, oh, how am I going to feed
91:54 me out? Uh, oh, how am I going to feed my kids? Uh,
91:57 my kids? Uh, and, uh, here's Donald Trump. Like
92:00 and, uh, here's Donald Trump. Like literally
92:02 literally within the 24 hours that the Democrats
92:04 within the 24 hours that the Democrats caved, SNAP benefits were forced to be
92:07 caved, SNAP benefits were forced to be resumed by a court and Donald Trump
92:10 resumed by a court and Donald Trump handed them a massive gift
92:13 handed them a massive gift uh
92:15 uh which was crapping all over air traffic
92:18 which was crapping all over air traffic controllers.
92:20 controllers. This is number uh one
92:37 group number one. >> What I what I was not happy when I saw
92:41 >> What I what I was not happy when I saw all these people. Oh, we have to look.
92:44 all these people. Oh, we have to look. Life is not so easy for anybody. Our
92:46 Life is not so easy for anybody. Our country's never done better. We should
92:48 country's never done better. We should not have had people leaving their jobs.
92:50 not have had people leaving their jobs. And what I basically did is say the ones
92:52 And what I basically did is say the ones that stayed of which were there were a
92:54 that stayed of which were there were a lot of them. I'm sending them a $10,000
92:57 lot of them. I'm sending them a $10,000 bonus.
92:57 bonus. >> Where's that money coming from?
92:59 >> Where's that money coming from? >> I don't know. I'll get it from
93:00 >> I don't know. I'll get it from someplace. I'll get it from I always get
93:02 someplace. I'll get it from I always get the money from someplace regardless. It
93:04 the money from someplace regardless. It doesn't matter. We did a lot of I do a
93:05 doesn't matter. We did a lot of I do a lot of bonuses for people because it's
93:07 lot of bonuses for people because it's really something that it's like the
93:09 really something that it's like the American way when you think about it.
93:11 American way when you think about it. So, here's somebody that goes and shows
93:13 So, here's somebody that goes and shows up every single day. Some of them showed
93:15 up every single day. Some of them showed up early because they knew there was
93:17 up early because they knew there was going to be a problem. Those people
93:18 going to be a problem. Those people should be rewarded. Others we couldn't
93:21 should be rewarded. Others we couldn't we we can't make it. We can't, you know,
93:23 we we can't make it. We can't, you know, a lot of the people that showed up also
93:24 a lot of the people that showed up also had a second job. They took a second job
93:26 had a second job. They took a second job temporarily, but they all know the
93:29 temporarily, but they all know the money's coming and the money was coming.
93:30 money's coming and the money was coming. So, I want to reward the people that
93:33 So, I want to reward the people that showed up without a lot of nonsense,
93:34 showed up without a lot of nonsense, with a lot without a lot of talk. They
93:36 with a lot without a lot of talk. They did their job and in many cases they
93:38 did their job and in many cases they worked longer hours to get us through
93:40 worked longer hours to get us through this period.
93:41 this period. See what was saying? He's saying that um
93:46 See what was saying? He's saying that um he is crapping on all of those um
93:49 he is crapping on all of those um >> Oh, I can't feed my kids.
93:50 >> Oh, I can't feed my kids. >> I can't feed my kids. I got to go get a
93:52 >> I can't feed my kids. I got to go get a second job. I can't show up at work cuz
93:54 second job. I can't show up at work cuz I actually have to get a job that pays
93:55 I actually have to get a job that pays me money.
93:56 me money. >> I'm evicted. See, it's crazy because you
93:58 >> I'm evicted. See, it's crazy because you would think he just isn't aware of all
94:00 would think he just isn't aware of all of the turmoil, but he clearly has seen
94:03 of the turmoil, but he clearly has seen the stories that we've all seen of the
94:05 the stories that we've all seen of the air traffic controllers who are like,
94:06 air traffic controllers who are like, "Oh crap, I need to get a second job
94:08 "Oh crap, I need to get a second job this month in the gig economy in the off
94:11 this month in the gig economy in the off hours I'm using that I should be using
94:13 hours I'm using that I should be using to sleep so I can be rested."
94:14 to sleep so I can be rested." >> It's hard on everybody. Listen, I got to
94:17 >> It's hard on everybody. Listen, I got to tell you, it's hard on everybody. When
94:19 tell you, it's hard on everybody. When we were having our Great Gatsby party,
94:21 we were having our Great Gatsby party, we thought we were going to run out of
94:22 we thought we were going to run out of caviar. And I was like, "Hey, wait a
94:24 caviar. And I was like, "Hey, wait a second. We're going to run out of
94:25 second. We're going to run out of caviar." And it's just panic. We had
94:27 caviar." And it's just panic. We had widespread panic.
94:28 widespread panic. >> There were guests that were supposed to
94:29 >> There were guests that were supposed to be there, but their flights were
94:30 be there, but their flights were delayed.
94:31 delayed. >> I still haven't found real gold paint.
94:34 >> I still haven't found real gold paint. >> Do you [laughter] know how hard my life
94:35 >> Do you [laughter] know how hard my life is?
94:36 is? >> Like it
94:38 >> Like it also
94:40 also embedded in that response is, "Well,
94:43 embedded in that response is, "Well, I'll find the money. I always find the
94:44 I'll find the money. I always find the money." In other words, I break the law.
94:46 money." In other words, I break the law. I break the law all the time.
94:48 I break the law all the time. >> I'm like,
94:48 >> I'm like, >> I break the law all the time. And in
94:50 >> I break the law all the time. And in fact, what are the Democrats going to do
94:51 fact, what are the Democrats going to do about it? What are they going to do? not
94:53 about it? What are they going to do? not cave and require me to follow the law
94:56 cave and require me to follow the law when it comes to congressional
94:58 when it comes to congressional appropriations. We do have to do that.
95:01 appropriations. We do have to do that. >> You could have the Republicans in
95:03 >> You could have the Republicans in Congress pass the bonus for them instead
95:05 Congress pass the bonus for them instead of you like going around to some, I
95:07 of you like going around to some, I don't know, Bitcoin scammer that has
95:08 don't know, Bitcoin scammer that has extra cash and wants to make a PR splash
95:10 extra cash and wants to make a PR splash or something. Whatever is going to
95:12 or something. Whatever is going to happen.
95:12 happen. >> Guarantee the bonus is not delivered.
95:13 >> Guarantee the bonus is not delivered. So, it doesn't matter.
95:15 So, it doesn't matter. >> He did that interview last night, right?
95:17 >> He did that interview last night, right? >> Yes.
95:17 >> Yes. >> Okay. I think he got his shot uh his
95:20 >> Okay. I think he got his shot uh his stuff yesterday or Sunday.
95:25 stuff yesterday or Sunday. >> He was looking a little bit on top of it
95:27 >> He was looking a little bit on top of it there, right? Let's play something else.
95:28 there, right? Let's play something else. Do we have another clip from there?
95:30 Do we have another clip from there? >> We got him on uh uh Obamacare.
95:33 >> We got him on uh uh Obamacare. >> Here he is on uh Yeah,
95:36 >> Here he is on uh Yeah, >> here he is on uh uh he's still on uh uh
95:39 >> here he is on uh uh he's still on uh uh what do you call it? Ingram, right?
95:40 what do you call it? Ingram, right? >> Yeah.
95:42 >> Yeah. >> And I'm not just talking about recently.
95:43 >> And I'm not just talking about recently. I'm talking about for years they've been
95:45 I'm talking about for years they've been going up. And he said premiums will go
95:47 going up. And he said premiums will go down. and everything will be wonderful.
95:49 down. and everything will be wonderful. It's horrible health insurance at a very
95:50 It's horrible health insurance at a very high price. And what I want and probably
95:53 high price. And what I want and probably what you're alluding to is the fact that
95:54 what you're alluding to is the fact that I want instead of going to the insurance
95:56 I want instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into
95:58 companies, I want the money to go into an account for people where the people
96:00 an account for people where the people buy their own health insurance. It's so
96:01 buy their own health insurance. It's so good. Uh the insurance will be better.
96:05 good. Uh the insurance will be better. It'll cost less. Everybody's going to be
96:07 It'll cost less. Everybody's going to be happy. They're going to feel like
96:08 happy. They're going to feel like entrepreneurs. They're actually able to
96:10 entrepreneurs. They're actually able to go out and negotiate their own health
96:12 go out and negotiate their own health insurance AND THEY CAN USE
96:14 insurance AND THEY CAN USE >> OH, GOD. HE said the magic words to me.
96:19 >> OH, GOD. HE said the magic words to me. Folks, I feel so unfulfilled
96:23 Folks, I feel so unfulfilled that I have never had the opportunity to
96:25 that I have never had the opportunity to go in and negotiate uh my health care
96:27 go in and negotiate uh my health care expenses with the doctors. I'm sitting
96:29 expenses with the doctors. I'm sitting here and I'm like going, "HEY DOC, LET'S
96:31 here and I'm like going, "HEY DOC, LET'S NEGOTIATE ABOUT THIS. You say I need a
96:34 NEGOTIATE ABOUT THIS. You say I need a uh an appendicitis. I'll tell you what,
96:37 uh an appendicitis. I'll tell you what, throw in a tonsilctomy [laughter]
96:40 throw in a tonsilctomy [laughter] and we're talking.
96:43 and we're talking. Let's let's do this. Let's wrap this up.
96:45 Let's let's do this. Let's wrap this up. I bought Listen, I got right now I got
96:46 I bought Listen, I got right now I got an ingrown toenail and uh I got a um I
96:51 an ingrown toenail and uh I got a um I got a what do you call it? Um deviated
96:54 got a what do you call it? Um deviated septum. Can we do let's just do this all
96:56 septum. Can we do let's just do this all together. I'll give you the twice the
96:57 together. I'll give you the twice the amount of business. We got it done.
96:59 amount of business. We got it done. Bingo bango.
97:02 Bingo bango. >> I can't wait TO BE ENTREPRENEURIAL. AND
97:04 >> I can't wait TO BE ENTREPRENEURIAL. AND I also got my health savings account. I
97:06 I also got my health savings account. I got that and I also doing some day
97:08 got that and I also doing some day trading. I had a good day yesterday. So,
97:10 trading. I had a good day yesterday. So, you know what? Let's do that bypass.
97:12 you know what? Let's do that bypass. >> It's like Jerry McGuire of health.
97:14 >> It's like Jerry McGuire of health. Exactly.
97:14 Exactly. >> So, you get Medicaid for all and they're
97:16 >> So, you get Medicaid for all and they're just like, you know, we're going to take
97:17 just like, you know, we're going to take care of what's wrong. Boring.
97:18 care of what's wrong. Boring. >> No fun.
97:19 >> No fun. >> Negotiate.
97:21 >> Negotiate. >> Yesterday, yesterday I I went long on
97:25 >> Yesterday, yesterday I I went long on some crypto. And so [laughter] today, I
97:29 some crypto. And so [laughter] today, I I CAN AFFORD TO get that uh bypass
97:32 I CAN AFFORD TO get that uh bypass surgery that I've BEEN THINKING ABOUT.
97:35 surgery that I've BEEN THINKING ABOUT. LET'S DO THIS.
97:36 LET'S DO THIS. >> I don't even need the bypass. I just
97:37 >> I don't even need the bypass. I just like the deal.
97:38 like the deal. >> He's He's like the way that we're going
97:40 >> He's He's like the way that we're going to health savings accounts. How is that
97:43 to health savings accounts. How is that in any way going to impact the cost of
97:47 in any way going to impact the cost of private health insurance?
97:50 private health insurance? ACA uh is a
97:53 ACA uh is a the part where we subsidize private
97:55 the part where we subsidize private insurance
97:58 insurance is a horrible system.
98:01 is a horrible system. It is only slightly better than the
98:04 It is only slightly better than the horrible system that preceded it. the
98:07 horrible system that preceded it. the patient protections embedded in the ACA.
98:10 patient protections embedded in the ACA. Remember it was the ACA PPI. That was
98:12 Remember it was the ACA PPI. That was the the re actual name of the the thing,
98:14 the the re actual name of the the thing, the Affordable Care Act patient
98:16 the Affordable Care Act patient protection initiative or something.
98:19 protection initiative or something. The patient protections are good. We
98:22 The patient protections are good. We don't have lifetime caps. We don't have
98:24 don't have lifetime caps. We don't have yearly caps. We don't have recision. We
98:26 yearly caps. We don't have recision. We don't have uh you can stay on the
98:28 don't have uh you can stay on the insurance 26. There are some um
98:32 insurance 26. There are some um free things that insurance companies pay
98:34 free things that insurance companies pay for because it provides for better
98:36 for because it provides for better health outcomes. The expansion of
98:38 health outcomes. The expansion of Medicaid, good.
98:40 Medicaid, good. The cost controls,
98:42 The cost controls, the rate of increase did slow. It did
98:45 the rate of increase did slow. It did bend the cost curve as it were, but it
98:48 bend the cost curve as it were, but it still goes up
98:50 still goes up 7 8% a year. We did add
98:55 7 8% a year. We did add we did cut the number of uninsured in
98:57 we did cut the number of uninsured in this country down by three quarters
99:01 this country down by three quarters was something like 40 million people uh
99:03 was something like 40 million people uh before and now it's closer to like
99:06 before and now it's closer to like 10 or 12. Now that number is going to go
99:08 10 or 12. Now that number is going to go shoot back up.
99:11 shoot back up. But
99:12 But it's not like the Republicans have
99:14 it's not like the Republicans have another plan. They've been trying to uh
99:17 another plan. They've been trying to uh repeal uh the Affordable Care Act for
99:20 repeal uh the Affordable Care Act for over 10 years and they have no plan.
99:23 over 10 years and they have no plan. They haven't even written up a plan.
99:25 They haven't even written up a plan. >> That health savings account that's like
99:26 >> That health savings account that's like dusted off from 15 years ago.
99:28 dusted off from 15 years ago. >> It's been, you know, some people have
99:30 >> It's been, you know, some people have it. If you have if you have a high
99:33 it. If you have if you have a high deductible insurance plan, you're
99:35 deductible insurance plan, you're eligible for a health savings account,
99:37 eligible for a health savings account, which basically means like you can put
99:39 which basically means like you can put the money in there. But this is also,
99:41 the money in there. But this is also, understand,
99:42 understand, this is not terribly dissimilar from a
99:46 this is not terribly dissimilar from a 529, just a way for wealthy people to
99:49 529, just a way for wealthy people to avoid taxes.
99:51 avoid taxes. Because if you don't have enough money
99:53 Because if you don't have enough money at the end of your paycheck every week
99:55 at the end of your paycheck every week to save towards, I don't know, a house
99:58 to save towards, I don't know, a house or a car or an emergency, you don't have
100:02 or a car or an emergency, you don't have money to put into a health savings
100:04 money to put into a health savings account. Let it accumulate interest over
100:07 account. Let it accumulate interest over 20 years. I mean, this is their
100:08 20 years. I mean, this is their strategy, right? For wealthy people,
100:09 strategy, right? For wealthy people, this is what they do. If they have a
100:11 this is what they do. If they have a high deductible plan,
100:13 high deductible plan, you put it in the health savings
100:15 you put it in the health savings account. You put it in there when you're
100:17 account. You put it in there when you're like 25. You put in whatever it is, 2500
100:20 like 25. You put in whatever it is, 2500 bucks, whatever the limit is, 5,000, I
100:23 bucks, whatever the limit is, 5,000, I don't know. You put it in there. You let
100:25 don't know. You put it in there. You let it acrue. You pay for all your um health
100:28 it acrue. You pay for all your um health costs out of pocket. And then when
100:30 costs out of pocket. And then when you're like 60, you can actually get
100:32 you're like 60, you can actually get reimbursed for all those costs.
100:35 reimbursed for all those costs. In the meantime, that money has stayed
100:37 In the meantime, that money has stayed in this account tax-free savings and it
100:40 in this account tax-free savings and it has acred and acrewed and acred and
100:41 has acred and acrewed and acred and acrewed and acred and acrewed and acred.
100:44 acrewed and acred and acrewed and acred. Then you can take uh your money, pay
100:46 Then you can take uh your money, pay yourself back from that account. All
100:50 yourself back from that account. All that taxfree money is there. Then you
100:52 that taxfree money is there. Then you get on Medicare.
101:00 That's the plan. We're going to look, some people have money, some people
101:02 some people have money, some people don't have money. And the way that we're
101:04 don't have money. And the way that we're going to work it is the people who have
101:05 going to work it is the people who have money are gonna be able to get more
101:06 money are gonna be able to get more money.
101:08 money. And now I got to go.
101:10 And now I got to go. >> And then it's your fault for being
101:12 >> And then it's your fault for being bankrupt because of cancer.
101:18 >> Maybe you should have thought of that before you got cancer.
101:18 before you got cancer. >> You should have cut some better deals.
101:20 >> You should have cut some better deals. >> I mean,
101:21 >> I mean, >> be entrepreneurial.
101:22 >> be entrepreneurial. >> You got to you got to make a deal with
101:24 >> You got to you got to make a deal with cancer.
101:29 Um, >> one more quick one from the uh Ingram
101:33 >> one more quick one from the uh Ingram interview.
101:33 interview. >> Is this the magnet one? Yes. Oh my god.
101:35 >> Is this the magnet one? Yes. Oh my god. All right, let's do this.
101:43 >> Yeah. Out. But it's so President Xi was willing to do the rarer thing. That's
101:46 willing to do the rarer thing. That's magnets. Now, nobody knows what a magnet
101:48 magnets. Now, nobody knows what a magnet is. If you don't have a magnet, you
101:49 is. If you don't have a magnet, you don't make a car. You don't make a
101:51 don't make a car. You don't make a computer. You don't make uh televisions
101:53 computer. You don't make uh televisions and radios and all the other things. you
101:55 and radios and all the other things. you don't make anything. It's a
101:57 don't make anything. It's a [clears throat] 30-year effort to
101:59 [clears throat] 30-year effort to monopolize a very important thing. Now,
102:01 monopolize a very important thing. Now, within two years, we'll have magnets,
102:03 within two years, we'll have magnets, all the magnets we want, but we don't.
102:05 all the magnets we want, but we don't. Because of tariffs, I called, I said,
102:07 Because of tariffs, I called, I said, "Listen, here's the story. You're going
102:09 "Listen, here's the story. You're going to play the magnet. I'm going to play
102:10 to play the magnet. I'm going to play the tariff on you." And for national
102:12 the tariff on you." And for national security purposes, I raised the tariff
102:15 security purposes, I raised the tariff by 100% over and above what they were
102:17 by 100% over and above what they were paying, which was 55. So, he was at
102:19 paying, which was 55. So, he was at 155%. Within 10 minutes, I got a call.
102:22 155%. Within 10 minutes, I got a call. We'd like to meet and we settled it out
102:24 We'd like to meet and we settled it out and we made a wonderful deal, great deal
102:26 and we made a wonderful deal, great deal for our country out. But it's so pres
102:31 for our country out. But it's so pres >> You play magnet. I play.
102:32 >> You play magnet. I play. >> Okay.
102:34 >> Okay. Incidentally, it's not the rare earth uh
102:38 Incidentally, it's not the rare earth uh it's not the rare earth uh minerals that
102:40 it's not the rare earth uh minerals that we're concerned about. It is the
102:42 we're concerned about. It is the processing of the rare earth minerals.
102:44 processing of the rare earth minerals. We do not have the capacity to process
102:46 We do not have the capacity to process them.
102:48 them. But I call it magnets because it's
102:51 But I call it magnets because it's easier to think about.
102:52 easier to think about. >> Nobody knows what that means.
102:52 >> Nobody knows what that means. >> Nobody knows what I'm talking about. I
102:55 >> Nobody knows what I'm talking about. I say magnets around everyone in the uh
102:58 say magnets around everyone in the uh White House and they're all just like,
102:59 White House and they're all just like, "What? What are you talking about?"
103:01 "What? What are you talking about?" Because they don't know.
103:04 Because they don't know. >> Nobody's ever heard,
103:05 >> Nobody's ever heard, >> you know. I mean, we could, but it would
103:07 >> you know. I mean, we could, but it would take uh a government action to do it
103:11 take uh a government action to do it to develop our capacity, which is what
103:12 to develop our capacity, which is what China did. But we'll play tariffs
103:15 China did. But we'll play tariffs instead.
103:16 instead. >> We'll play tariffs. Incidentally, the
103:18 >> We'll play tariffs. Incidentally, the tariffs, I mean, we just spoke to uh um
103:21 tariffs, I mean, we just spoke to uh um uh Jay Willis. I think the tariffs are
103:24 uh Jay Willis. I think the tariffs are going to get struck down. And the only
103:25 going to get struck down. And the only person who's gonna make any money off of
103:28 person who's gonna make any money off of this is, and what happens if the tariffs
103:31 this is, and what happens if the tariffs are found to have been illegal, then all
103:35 are found to have been illegal, then all of these businesses
103:37 of these businesses that were charged tariffs and paid
103:39 that were charged tariffs and paid tariffs
103:42 tariffs are due to get that money back.
103:45 are due to get that money back. Many of those businesses
103:48 Many of those businesses sold that right for cash
103:52 sold that right for cash months ago,
103:54 months ago, right? So like it's basically an if
103:56 right? So like it's basically an if come.
103:59 come. I have a chit that says uh I've been
104:01 I have a chit that says uh I've been charged $100,000 for tariffs.
104:04 charged $100,000 for tariffs. I have this chit. If the Supreme Court
104:07 I have this chit. If the Supreme Court rules that those tariffs were
104:10 rules that those tariffs were taken from me illegally, the government
104:13 taken from me illegally, the government has to pay me back that $100,000. But 6
104:17 has to pay me back that $100,000. But 6 to 8 months ago, I'm like, I don't know
104:18 to 8 months ago, I'm like, I don't know if this is going to get overturned, and
104:20 if this is going to get overturned, and I need cash now to pay for these uh, you
104:25 I need cash now to pay for these uh, you know, uh, toothpicks that I imported
104:28 know, uh, toothpicks that I imported from China, and I need cash. So, some
104:32 from China, and I need cash. So, some dude comes along and says, "Hey, I'll
104:34 dude comes along and says, "Hey, I'll give you
104:37 give you $30,000 right now, cash, and you give me
104:41 $30,000 right now, cash, and you give me your that may be worth $100,000,
104:44 your that may be worth $100,000, maybe worth nothing." And so, I need the
104:46 maybe worth nothing." And so, I need the cash. So, I say, "Okay, here's 30
104:48 cash. So, I say, "Okay, here's 30 grand." Now, that dude who bought it
104:50 grand." Now, that dude who bought it from me, his name was
104:54 from me, his name was um
104:56 um Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik's son
104:59 Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik's son and other son. They bought billions
105:04 and other son. They bought billions of these chits.
105:07 of these chits. And so when you see Howard Lutnik on
105:09 And so when you see Howard Lutnik on television
105:11 television super psyched that we're doing more
105:13 super psyched that we're doing more tariffs on Canada because of some ad,
105:16 tariffs on Canada because of some ad, it's because his sons
105:18 it's because his sons >> Kyle and Brandon.
105:19 >> Kyle and Brandon. >> Kyle and Brandon.
105:22 >> Kyle and Brandon. Kyle and Brandon, [laughter]
105:29 they they are going to make so much money. Howard Lutnik is going to leave
105:32 money. Howard Lutnik is going to leave this administration probably within the
105:34 this administration probably within the next year.
105:35 next year. >> Lutnik hasn't stopped smiling in like
105:37 >> Lutnik hasn't stopped smiling in like eight months. And this guy,
105:40 eight months. And this guy, he's like, he's like he's going to look
105:42 he's like, he's like he's going to look back, he's going to leave the
105:44 back, he's going to leave the administration within the next year, and
105:46 administration within the next year, and it's going to take him three or four
105:48 it's going to take him three or four months to be like, I'm past the
105:51 months to be like, I'm past the humiliation.
105:53 humiliation. Nobody, all those people who were pissed
105:55 Nobody, all those people who were pissed at me before at the country club like,
105:58 at me before at the country club like, "How can you do this?" blah blah blah.
105:59 "How can you do this?" blah blah blah. They all they don't care cuz I am so
106:02 They all they don't care cuz I am so freaking rich.
106:05 freaking rich. Like I thought I was rich before, but
106:07 Like I thought I was rich before, but now I'm really really rich.
106:08 now I'm really really rich. >> It's very kind of you to assume that he
106:10 >> It's very kind of you to assume that he feels humiliation at all.
106:12 feels humiliation at all. >> Yeah. No, I don't think he probably
106:13 >> Yeah. No, I don't think he probably does.
106:19 >> Kyle and Brandon Lutnick there. [laughter]
106:20 [laughter] >> You know what's amazing is that their
106:22 >> You know what's amazing is that their their their smiles are not even larger.
106:25 their their smiles are not even larger. [laughter]
106:29 There there is a look of like we can't look too too happy.
106:31 look too too happy. >> Yeah.
106:32 >> Yeah. Just keep it professional.
106:36 Just keep it professional. We are ripping off the entire country.
106:40 We are ripping off the entire country. [laughter]
106:40 [laughter] Just amazing.
106:47 [snorts] >> A lot of hard work they're doing for all
106:49 >> A lot of hard work they're doing for all that money. [laughter]
106:57 So, I need to uh readjust my nervous system.
106:59 system. Um,
107:06 let's play some uh like let's do something that's fun.
107:08 something that's fun. >> All right,
107:08 >> All right, >> we got a lot of fun.
107:10 >> we got a lot of fun. >> Okay, Mar.
107:11 >> Okay, Mar. >> Yeah, let's more anger inducing. I don't
107:13 >> Yeah, let's more anger inducing. I don't know. PBD's
107:15 know. PBD's >> PBD. Let's do some PBD,
107:25 >> folks. Uh, I am also uh 6462573920. 646257-3920
107:26 646257-3920 if you want to be part of the program.
107:28 if you want to be part of the program. It comes with a cost. You may have to be
107:30 It comes with a cost. You may have to be on the phone uh holding for 40 minutes
107:32 on the phone uh holding for 40 minutes and never get on.
107:35 and never get on. Or maybe maybe just maybe you will get
107:38 Or maybe maybe just maybe you will get on.
107:40 on. If you're conservative, you get
107:41 If you're conservative, you get fasttracked. Right.
107:42 fasttracked. Right. >> If you're a conservative, call the
107:44 >> If you're a conservative, call the special conservative hotline number.
107:46 special conservative hotline number. That is um 646
107:50 That is um 646 2573920
107:56 is the number. >> You could not have said that in a worse
107:58 >> You could not have said that in a worse way.
107:58 way. >> Hotline
108:00 >> Hotline 6462573920
108:02 6462573920 for the conservative hotline.
108:05 for the conservative hotline. Libertarians, you can call uh 646
108:08 Libertarians, you can call uh 646 257
108:10 257 3,920.
108:17 Here is PBD. He's been going off. He is so worried about Mam Donnie.
108:26 So much uh danger for New York. Those landlords.
108:27 landlords. >> The landlords.
108:28 >> The landlords. >> They do act like this is the last time
108:30 >> They do act like this is the last time they're going to talk about him and good
108:31 they're going to talk about him and good luck New York. But I kind of don't
108:33 luck New York. But I kind of don't believe them.
108:33 believe them. >> No way. This guy just whatever. Like
108:36 >> No way. This guy just whatever. Like what what how many views did he get on
108:38 what what how many views did he get on this?
108:40 this? This is how he operates.
108:42 This is how he operates. F. Yeah. Half a million. He'll he'll be
108:44 F. Yeah. Half a million. He'll he'll be talking about Montani quite a bit.
108:47 talking about Montani quite a bit. He's here to value tame
108:53 it. I don't think I sent it to I'm going to I'm going to forward it to you and if
108:55 to I'm going to forward it to you and if you can go to like the 40 second mark
108:57 you can go to like the 40 second mark when I forward this to you. It's a video
109:00 when I forward this to you. It's a video of him saying he's highlighting this
109:03 of him saying he's highlighting this apartment where the owner is not taking
109:05 apartment where the owner is not taking care of the tenants, which makes sense.
109:07 care of the tenants, which makes sense. you know, there are, you know, owners
109:08 you know, there are, you know, owners that that don't take care of
109:11 that that don't take care of >> the the the tenants and the tenants have
109:14 >> the the the tenants and the tenants have the choice to leave to go to a different
109:16 the choice to leave to go to a different place. You don't have to stay there. But
109:18 place. You don't have to stay there. But watch what he says. Oh,
109:19 watch what he says. Oh, >> pause it for a second. Now, uh, now
109:22 >> pause it for a second. Now, uh, now >> what a slum lord.
109:23 >> what a slum lord. >> Yeah, you could leave for another place.
109:26 >> Yeah, you could leave for another place. Um,
109:28 Um, just the cost of moving. If you have
109:30 just the cost of moving. If you have lived in New York, the cost of moving,
109:33 lived in New York, the cost of moving, like the moment you decide, I'm going to
109:35 like the moment you decide, I'm going to leave this apartment, the next month
109:40 leave this apartment, the next month that you rent a place is going to cost
109:42 that you rent a place is going to cost you times two or three.
109:44 you times two or three. >> Do you know how many divorced couples in
109:46 >> Do you know how many divorced couples in living in New York right now can't
109:47 living in New York right now can't afford to move out of their apartment? I
109:50 afford to move out of their apartment? I >> It is expensive to move.
109:52 >> It is expensive to move. And the point is is that if you're
109:55 And the point is is that if you're living in a um a slum lord's rental
109:59 living in a um a slum lord's rental apartment,
110:00 apartment, chances are you can only afford to move
110:03 chances are you can only afford to move into a different slum lord's rental
110:06 into a different slum lord's rental apartment.
110:08 apartment. But um what what do we have an image of
110:11 But um what what do we have an image of his is the house like a like a 20,000
110:14 his is the house like a like a 20,000 square foot house? Okay, whatever. Let's
110:16 square foot house? Okay, whatever. Let's just keep going.
110:17 just keep going. >> Go to a different place. You don't have
110:19 >> Go to a different place. You don't have to stay there. But watch what he says,
110:21 to stay there. But watch what he says, which is the most powerful part, folks.
110:24 which is the most powerful part, folks. And and if you can fast forward, Rob,
110:26 And and if you can fast forward, Rob, and go to right about there. Play it
110:28 and go to right about there. Play it from right there. Watch this. Go ahead.
110:30 from right there. Watch this. Go ahead. >> The mayor's office [music] to protect
110:31 >> The mayor's office [music] to protect tenants, bringing code enforcement under
110:34 tenants, bringing code enforcement under one roof, and making sure that agencies
110:36 one roof, and making sure that agencies are working together [music] to hold bad
110:38 are working together [music] to hold bad landlords accountable. Starting on day
110:40 landlords accountable. Starting on day one, we will expand the city's special
110:41 one, we will expand the city's special enforcement [music] programs, doubling
110:43 enforcement [music] programs, doubling fines for hazardous violations and
110:45 fines for hazardous violations and tripling them for conditions that are
110:47 tripling them for conditions that are immediately dangerous. And when a really
110:49 immediately dangerous. And when a really bad landlord like this guy refuses to
110:52 bad landlord like this guy refuses to fix it, the city's going to step in,
110:54 fix it, the city's going to step in, make the repairs, and send them the
110:56 make the repairs, and send them the building. If that doesn't work, the
110:57 building. If that doesn't work, the city's taking over the building. We're
110:59 city's taking over the building. We're putting the worst landlords [music] out
111:01 putting the worst landlords [music] out of business, and we're going to
111:02 of business, and we're going to transform.
111:03 transform. >> Go back 5 seconds.
111:04 >> Go back 5 seconds. >> Go back 5 seconds. Go back right there.
111:07 >> Go back 5 seconds. Go back right there. Say it again. Listen, folks. Go ahead.
111:08 Say it again. Listen, folks. Go ahead. >> Like this guy refuses to fix it. The
111:11 >> Like this guy refuses to fix it. The city's going to step in, make the
111:13 city's going to step in, make the repairs, and send them the bill. If that
111:15 repairs, and send them the bill. If that doesn't work, the city's taking over the
111:17 doesn't work, the city's taking over the building. We're putting the worst
111:18 building. We're putting the worst landlords [music] out of business and
111:20 landlords [music] out of business and we're going to transform 311 the latest
111:23 we're going to transform 311 the latest in cutting edge technology.
111:24 in cutting edge technology. >> Yeah. [music] Ben Phillips, shout out to
111:26 >> Yeah. [music] Ben Phillips, shout out to him. He sent this clip to me and he
111:28 him. He sent this clip to me and he says, "We're going to
111:30 says, "We're going to leaked. Is this a leaked clip?"
111:35 leaked. Is this a leaked clip?" Thank good. We have a lot of reporters
111:36 Thank good. We have a lot of reporters out there who have Instagram.
111:40 out there who have Instagram. [laughter]
111:40 [laughter] >> Hey, listen. I want to thank uh you guys
111:43 >> Hey, listen. I want to thank uh you guys for finding this clip of uh PBT. It took
111:46 for finding this clip of uh PBT. It took a lot of digging.
111:47 a lot of digging. >> Uh would you have to go all the way uh
111:51 >> Uh would you have to go all the way uh to his YouTube channel?
111:53 to his YouTube channel? >> No. I had to Mission Impossible into a
111:55 >> No. I had to Mission Impossible into a studio hanging by strings, install
111:58 studio hanging by strings, install cameras and microphones. [laughter]
112:00 cameras and microphones. [laughter] Um
112:03 Um they should we let them go on and on and
112:06 they should we let them go on and on and make asses of themselves about this?
112:08 make asses of themselves about this? >> Yeah.
112:10 >> Yeah. >> And he says we're going to take over the
112:13 >> And he says we're going to take over the building.
112:14 building. >> So it's theirs. It's the city's. So you
112:15 >> So it's theirs. It's the city's. So you mean like seize the means of production
112:18 mean like seize the means of production like communist? Wait a minute. So he's
112:20 like communist? Wait a minute. So he's saying the quiet work out loud and
112:23 saying the quiet work out loud and people voted for it.
112:24 people voted for it. >> That's right.
112:26 >> That's right. >> Bravo New York City.
112:27 >> Bravo New York City. >> But but the point is, you know what that
112:30 >> But but the point is, you know what that means?
112:30 means? >> Yes.
112:31 >> Yes. >> You know what that means? Challenge is
112:34 >> You know what that means? Challenge is he's going to need Albany to get some of
112:36 he's going to need Albany to get some of the stuff done. That's what this family
112:37 the stuff done. That's what this family was saying last night. He's going to
112:39 was saying last night. He's going to need Hokll. What's the likelihood of
112:41 need Hokll. What's the likelihood of Hokll agreeing to the 20 two two to the
112:43 Hokll agreeing to the 20 two two to the 2% increase on the on the rich?
112:45 2% increase on the on the rich? >> Very low. She's up for re-election.
112:47 >> Very low. She's up for re-election. She's up for re-election. What is Does
112:49 She's up for re-election. What is Does he need her?
112:50 he need her? >> Okay, PAUSE IT FOR A SECOND.
112:51 >> Okay, PAUSE IT FOR A SECOND. >> THE policy guy.
112:52 >> THE policy guy. >> THIS IS THE POLICY GUY COMES IN THERE.
112:54 >> THIS IS THE POLICY GUY COMES IN THERE. SHE'S up for reelection. And uh a 2% tax
112:58 SHE'S up for reelection. And uh a 2% tax on millionaires. That would be uh 50,000
113:02 on millionaires. That would be uh 50,000 people who uh
113:04 people who uh >> less than 2% of the state
113:05 >> less than 2% of the state >> who would be upset about that. And just
113:08 >> who would be upset about that. And just to remind you, since I'm uh the policy
113:11 to remind you, since I'm uh the policy guy, there are um how many uh millions
113:14 guy, there are um how many uh millions of people live in New York State? We How
113:17 of people live in New York State? We How many people do New York State? Like uh
113:20 many people do New York State? Like uh like
113:21 like 12 million? No, more.
113:25 12 million? No, more. >> But 50,000 people. Uh
113:27 >> But 50,000 people. Uh >> 19.8.
113:28 >> 19.8. >> 19 uh million. Uh but but 50,000 people.
113:32 >> 19 uh million. Uh but but 50,000 people. So she's running for re-election. That's
113:33 So she's running for re-election. That's going to be pretty tough. It is exactly
113:38 going to be pretty tough. It is exactly the opposite. It's going to be tough for
113:40 the opposite. It's going to be tough for her not to say that we're going to put a
113:41 her not to say that we're going to put a millionaire tax on when she's getting
113:43 millionaire tax on when she's getting running from uh you got Anthony Anthony
113:46 running from uh you got Anthony Anthony uh Antonio Delgado running to her left.
113:49 uh Antonio Delgado running to her left. Um but these guys are such morons.
113:52 Um but these guys are such morons. Incidentally,
113:53 Incidentally, this whole uh what Mum Donnie is doing
113:56 this whole uh what Mum Donnie is doing that he presented in that video in terms
113:58 that he presented in that video in terms of being new at least that we heard. uh
114:01 of being new at least that we heard. uh he went on to the 311 stuff, but
114:04 he went on to the 311 stuff, but he's um increasing the fines so that uh
114:08 he's um increasing the fines so that uh the slum lords actually have to take
114:10 the slum lords actually have to take care of the buildings. However,
114:14 care of the buildings. However, these guys are going to be very upset
114:16 these guys are going to be very upset here that um
114:20 here that um Barclay Center just down the road from
114:23 Barclay Center just down the road from us was all done by imminent domain.
114:27 us was all done by imminent domain. >> Home of the Nets. uh the home of the
114:29 >> Home of the Nets. uh the home of the Nets and about three or four uh big
114:32 Nets and about three or four uh big apartment build. In fact um it was also
114:34 apartment build. In fact um it was also not only that it was done in such a way
114:36 not only that it was done in such a way that was um uh was it Bruce Ratner uh
114:40 that was um uh was it Bruce Ratner uh the Ratner the developer um they bought
114:44 the Ratner the developer um they bought up a bunch of the buildings then they
114:46 up a bunch of the buildings then they basically let them just dilapitate so
114:48 basically let them just dilapitate so that the city could condemn them
114:51 that the city could condemn them >> and basically take over the whole thing.
114:54 >> and basically take over the whole thing. So the city has the ability to do that
114:57 So the city has the ability to do that and has always had the ability to do
114:58 and has always had the ability to do that
114:59 that >> and does it and usually does it on
115:02 >> and does it and usually does it on behalf of uh Capitol. Uh however,
115:07 behalf of uh Capitol. Uh however, prior to Zoram Mdani
115:09 prior to Zoram Mdani winning the mayoral mayorality in New
115:13 winning the mayoral mayorality in New York City, in fact, prior to him
115:15 York City, in fact, prior to him probably uh winning any election,
115:18 probably uh winning any election, probably even prior to him um being a
115:21 probably even prior to him um being a rapper, it's quite possible that even
115:23 rapper, it's quite possible that even prior to him being born,
115:26 prior to him being born, the unsafe buildings New York ad New
115:29 the unsafe buildings New York ad New York City administrative code uh was
115:30 York City administrative code uh was passed. New York uh city department of
115:32 passed. New York uh city department of buildings can initiate court proceedings
115:35 buildings can initiate court proceedings against unsafe buildings under the
115:37 against unsafe buildings under the provisions of the administrative code of
115:39 provisions of the administrative code of city of New York. Specifically sections
115:41 city of New York. Specifically sections 28 216.1
115:44 28 216.1 through 28 216.11
115:47 through 28 216.11 the process for unsafe building action
115:49 the process for unsafe building action involves a notice and summons.
115:52 involves a notice and summons. The department of buildings serves a
115:54 The department of buildings serves a notice survey and summons to interested
115:56 notice survey and summons to interested parties requiring them to address unsafe
115:59 parties requiring them to address unsafe condition. You remember when Zoran said,
116:00 condition. You remember when Zoran said, "First we're going to tell them you got
116:02 "First we're going to tell them you got to deal with this."
116:04 to deal with this." >> How Stalinist of him.
116:06 >> How Stalinist of him. >> Then the court order, if the owner fails
116:09 >> Then the court order, if the owner fails to correct the condition, a court may
116:10 to correct the condition, a court may issue a precept, which is an order
116:12 issue a precept, which is an order authorizing the city to perform the
116:14 authorizing the city to perform the necessary work, which is what he said
116:16 necessary work, which is what he said they would do. We'll go in and do it,
116:18 they would do. We'll go in and do it, such as sealing, demolition, or other
116:20 such as sealing, demolition, or other emergency repairs, and charge the cost
116:22 emergency repairs, and charge the cost to the property, which is exactly what
116:24 to the property, which is exactly what he said they were going to do.
116:25 he said they were going to do. >> Is this Cuban law, or is this New York?
116:27 >> Is this Cuban law, or is this New York? And the final one is lean creation.
116:30 And the final one is lean creation. Unpaid costs for emergency work become a
116:33 Unpaid costs for emergency work become a lean on the property which can
116:35 lean on the property which can eventually, in other words, uh you can't
116:37 eventually, in other words, uh you can't sell this property. Um there's a there's
116:41 sell this property. Um there's a there's a lean on it. It basically ties it up
116:44 a lean on it. It basically ties it up can lead to a foreclosure and seizure of
116:47 can lead to a foreclosure and seizure of the lean. Uh if the lean remains unpaid,
116:50 the lean. Uh if the lean remains unpaid, in other words, they can seize the
116:51 in other words, they can seize the building.
116:54 building. Chronic housing code violations. The New
116:56 Chronic housing code violations. The New York City Department of Housing
116:58 York City Department of Housing Preservation and Development enforces
116:59 Preservation and Development enforces the New York City Housing Maintenance
117:01 the New York City Housing Maintenance Code. While HPD primarily issues fines
117:04 Code. While HPD primarily issues fines and orders, emergency repairs with costs
117:06 and orders, emergency repairs with costs becoming tax leans. Chronic and severe
117:09 becoming tax leans. Chronic and severe violations can lead to more drastic
117:11 violations can lead to more drastic measures. 7A program. Under article 7A
117:14 measures. 7A program. Under article 7A of the New York State Real property uh
117:17 of the New York State Real property uh actions and proceedings law, a court may
117:19 actions and proceedings law, a court may appoint an administrator to manage a
117:20 appoint an administrator to manage a building if the conditions are dangerous
117:22 building if the conditions are dangerous to the life, health or safety of the
117:24 to the life, health or safety of the tenants and the owner's unable or
117:25 tenants and the owner's unable or unwilling to correct them. The
117:27 unwilling to correct them. The administrator uh collects rent and uses
117:29 administrator uh collects rent and uses it to make repairs and then it can go
117:31 it to make repairs and then it can go into a third party transfer program. The
117:34 into a third party transfer program. The point is is that uh these guys communist
117:36 point is is that uh these guys communist manifesto
117:37 manifesto >> are freaking out about something that
117:39 >> are freaking out about something that has already existed in New York City.
117:42 has already existed in New York City. Uhhuh. So, kind of like the rent control
117:44 Uhhuh. So, kind of like the rent control stuff.
117:45 stuff. >> What? Rent control. Freeze the rent.
117:48 >> What? Rent control. Freeze the rent. Who's done that? Oh, uh, Bill Delasio
117:51 Who's done that? Oh, uh, Bill Delasio and, uh, countless other, uh, mayors of
117:54 and, uh, countless other, uh, mayors of New York City.
117:58 New York City. They're so dumb, but
118:00 They're so dumb, but they're so dumb, but they also know that
118:03 they're so dumb, but they also know that they're
118:05 they're and they're so dumb. They may not know
118:07 and they're so dumb. They may not know that their audience is so dumb that that
118:09 that their audience is so dumb that that their audience doesn't know how dumb
118:10 their audience doesn't know how dumb they are. and they can't get feedback
118:12 they are. and they can't get feedback from the audience saying, "Hey, you're
118:13 from the audience saying, "Hey, you're dumb." Because the audience thinks
118:15 dumb." Because the audience thinks they're smart.
118:16 they're smart. >> Exactly.
118:16 >> Exactly. >> And so it's a feedback loop. Um I think
118:18 >> And so it's a feedback loop. Um I think we should play a little bit more
118:22 we should play a little bit more >> help also to be able to increase the
118:23 >> help also to be able to increase the corporate taxes. Same thing he's got to
118:25 corporate taxes. Same thing he's got to go through Albany.
118:26 go through Albany. >> Of course,
118:26 >> Of course, >> Tom. Yes.
118:27 >> Tom. Yes. >> Yes. Some of it. And I'm diving into it
118:29 >> Yes. Some of it. And I'm diving into it with Brandon so that we can really know
118:31 with Brandon so that we can really know step by step what he can and can't do.
118:33 step by step what he can and can't do. Some of the things he can do with a
118:35 Some of the things he can do with a stroke of a pen, similar to our
118:36 stroke of a pen, similar to our president's executive order. Other
118:38 president's executive order. Other things he can't. We're gonna put the
118:40 things he can't. We're gonna put the list so people can see.
118:41 list so people can see. >> We're gonna see remember that one uh
118:44 >> We're gonna see remember that one uh mayor that Skiramucci was talking about,
118:47 mayor that Skiramucci was talking about, Lindsay,
118:48 Lindsay, >> pre-1971,
118:50 >> pre-1971, you know, this this guy apparently used
118:53 you know, this this guy apparently used to be a Republican may republic,
118:56 to be a Republican may republic, >> his vague history of uh
118:58 >> his vague history of uh >> of of New York City politics.
119:01 >> of of New York City politics. >> There was if we want to do the Lena
119:03 >> There was if we want to do the Lena Khan.
119:03 Khan. >> Yes. Let's hear his Lena Khan thing. Let
119:05 >> Yes. Let's hear his Lena Khan thing. Let me find my time code.
119:06 me find my time code. >> Um,
119:09 >> Um, >> I think I'm due for my uh my by annual
119:12 >> I think I'm due for my uh my by annual visit to uh PBD.
119:13 visit to uh PBD. >> Yeah, aren't I? When did I do it last?
119:15 >> Yeah, aren't I? When did I do it last? Was that last year?
119:16 Was that last year? >> Got to check the email.
119:17 >> Got to check the email. >> Two years ago.
119:17 >> Two years ago. >> Hopefully it's not going to spam.
119:18 >> Hopefully it's not going to spam. >> I think we're Yeah, he would have you
119:20 >> I think we're Yeah, he would have you back on, right? Why not?
119:22 back on, right? Why not? >> Why not?
119:24 >> Why not? >> I see 2510 here. Here it is.
119:29 >> I see 2510 here. Here it is. Uh, so Zoran Mandani
119:32 Uh, so Zoran Mandani taps big tech antagonist
119:35 taps big tech antagonist Lena Canas co-chair mayoral transition
119:39 Lena Canas co-chair mayoral transition team. You should see his transition
119:41 team. You should see his transition team.
119:41 team. >> One second. [laughter]
119:43 >> One second. [laughter] >> What?
119:54 >> It's Lena Khan. What was he seeing? >> I have no idea. But the but the the
119:56 >> I have no idea. But the but the the thing is that the the amazing thing is
119:58 thing is that the the amazing thing is is that somehow he missed the entire
120:02 is that somehow he missed the entire Lena Khan
120:03 Lena Khan >> is no
120:04 >> is no >> is no I mean I don't think I don't know
120:06 >> is no I mean I don't think I don't know if your average voter knows but anybody
120:09 if your average voter knows but anybody who's been following politics during the
120:12 who's been following politics during the Biden uh era one of the big questions
120:16 Biden uh era one of the big questions was is Kla Harris going to keep Lena
120:19 was is Kla Harris going to keep Lena Khan
120:20 Khan >> at the risk of offending Emma I called
120:22 >> at the risk of offending Emma I called it Lena Khan her Taylor Swift.
120:25 it Lena Khan her Taylor Swift. >> Yes. [laughter]
120:28 >> Yeah. This is someone. >> But she does. Oh, yes. But she doesn't
120:30 >> But she does. Oh, yes. But she doesn't like Taylor Swift,
120:31 like Taylor Swift, >> right? That's her. Yeah, that's her
120:32 >> right? That's her. Yeah, that's her name.
120:32 name. >> Oh, her substitute.
120:34 >> Oh, her substitute. >> But they have to now act like Lena Canas
120:37 >> But they have to now act like Lena Canas is a is a known threat who they've never
120:40 is a is a known threat who they've never seen her name on paper.
120:41 seen her name on paper. >> That's right.
120:43 >> That's right. >> Po Chap's big tech antagonist.
120:46 >> Po Chap's big tech antagonist. Lena Canas, co-chair mayor. That's
120:50 Lena Canas, co-chair mayor. That's right. Transition team. Hold on. That's
120:51 right. Transition team. Hold on. That's an apostrophe s.
120:53 an apostrophe s. >> No. Eric Guy Gy got it.
120:56 >> No. Eric Guy Gy got it. >> It was Lena Khan as
120:59 >> It was Lena Khan as co-chair as as as co-chair. My god.
121:02 co-chair as as as co-chair. My god. >> And he just go back. So just listen to
121:06 >> And he just go back. So just listen to it's Lena Khan as co-chair of the
121:10 it's Lena Khan as co-chair of the transition thing and he reads it as Lena
121:12 transition thing and he reads it as Lena Kaz. [laughter]
121:15 Kaz. [laughter] >> Doran Mdani taps big tech antagonist.
121:20 >> Doran Mdani taps big tech antagonist. Lena Canaz co-chair mayoral transition
121:24 Lena Canaz co-chair mayoral transition team. You should see his transition
121:26 team. You should see his transition team. He doesn't believe in hiring men.
121:28 team. He doesn't believe in hiring men. Okay. It was Did you see this Rob Lena?
121:32 Okay. It was Did you see this Rob Lena? [laughter]
121:33 [laughter] >> Oh, wait. Andrew figures it out.
121:36 >> Oh, wait. Andrew figures it out. >> Doesn't believe in hiring men. Okay. It
121:39 >> Doesn't believe in hiring men. Okay. It was Did you see this, Rob? What
121:40 was Did you see this, Rob? What everybody was Lena Khan? What's her
121:42 everybody was Lena Khan? What's her name?
121:44 name? >> Lisa Khan. Lisa Khan. Lena.
121:47 >> Lisa Khan. Lisa Khan. Lena. >> I'm sorry. Lena Khan. Play this clip.
121:49 >> I'm sorry. Lena Khan. Play this clip. that Buddha come.
121:50 that Buddha come. >> Morning everybody. It's great to see you
121:52 >> Morning everybody. It's great to see you all. Uh want to start off by just
121:54 all. Uh want to start off by just congratulating our mayor alleani on a
121:57 congratulating our mayor alleani on a incredible victory and a just remarkable
121:59 incredible victory and a just remarkable campaign this last year. I think what we
122:02 campaign this last year. I think what we saw last night was New Yorkers not just
122:04 saw last night was New Yorkers not just electing a new mayor, but clearly
122:07 electing a new mayor, but clearly rejecting a politics where outsized
122:09 rejecting a politics where outsized corporate power and money too often end
122:12 corporate power and money too often end up dictating our politics and a clear
122:15 up dictating our politics and a clear mandate for change where New Yorkers can
122:18 mandate for change where New Yorkers can get ahead and where all workers and
122:20 get ahead and where all workers and small businesses can thrive, not just
122:22 small businesses can thrive, not just get by. I think what we saw through the
122:25 get by. I think what we saw through the campaign was an operation that showed
122:28 campaign was an operation that showed extraordinary discipline, rigor, talent.
122:31 extraordinary discipline, rigor, talent. >> They're playing a long clip of this. I
122:33 >> They're playing a long clip of this. I wonder if they're trying to work out
122:35 wonder if they're trying to work out what her name is or they're trying to
122:36 what her name is or they're trying to figure out what it is that they're
122:37 figure out what it is that they're supposed to be scared of.
122:39 supposed to be scared of. >> The vision can pause it right there.
122:41 >> The vision can pause it right there. Look at just so you know who she is.
122:43 Look at just so you know who she is. >> She's the former Federal Trade
122:44 >> She's the former Federal Trade Commission chair. Uh and she's going to
122:47 Commission chair. Uh and she's going to be serving as a co-chair on the
122:49 be serving as a co-chair on the transition team. and uh the 36-year-old
122:52 transition team. and uh the 36-year-old Democrat who brought major cases against
122:54 Democrat who brought major cases against Meta on Amazon while running the FTC
122:57 Meta on Amazon while running the FTC from 2021 to 2025 surprised some
123:00 from 2021 to 2025 surprised some onlookers on Wednesday as she appeared
123:02 onlookers on Wednesday as she appeared alongside Mamani at his first
123:03 alongside Mamani at his first post-election press conference. Tom, why
123:05 post-election press conference. Tom, why is it so important to businesses in New
123:07 is it so important to businesses in New York City? Because
123:08 York City? Because >> I I I don't understand any of this and
123:11 >> I I I don't understand any of this and the only thing I came up with there was
123:12 the only thing I came up with there was three women in the video so I assume
123:14 three women in the video so I assume he's not hiring any men. He literally
123:17 he's not hiring any men. He literally today um uh announced that he appointed
123:20 today um uh announced that he appointed his first deputy mayor uh Dean Fahhan.
123:25 his first deputy mayor uh Dean Fahhan. Um
123:26 Um [laughter]
123:28 [laughter] uh I'm sorry Dean Fahan appointed.
123:32 uh I'm sorry Dean Fahan appointed. [laughter]
123:36 It's a weird last name. Full of hand appointed.
123:37 appointed. >> Did you hear transition team? They're
123:39 >> Did you hear transition team? They're they're going to
123:40 they're going to >> Oh, right. Forced transition.
123:42 >> Oh, right. Forced transition. >> Transitioning [laughter] Zor. Let's hear
123:43 >> Transitioning [laughter] Zor. Let's hear what Tom Let's hear what Tom's take is
123:45 what Tom Let's hear what Tom's take is on this. He's the policy guy there.
123:48 on this. He's the policy guy there. >> His first post-election press
123:49 >> His first post-election press conference. Tom, why is it so important
123:51 conference. Tom, why is it so important to businesses in New York City?
123:53 to businesses in New York City? >> Because he has picked somebody who was
123:55 >> Because he has picked somebody who was picking on businesses. And by the way,
123:57 picking on businesses. And by the way, um this was a pick that in my opinion of
124:01 um this was a pick that in my opinion of everything I've read that um uh was was
124:04 everything I've read that um uh was was an Obama influence pick that was made by
124:07 an Obama influence pick that was made by Biden because she was named to the
124:09 Biden because she was named to the Federal Trade Commission. And my opinion
124:12 Federal Trade Commission. And my opinion based on what I've read is that Biden
124:15 based on what I've read is that Biden didn't really understand everything
124:18 didn't really understand everything about her and she was kind of pushed
124:20 about her and she was kind of pushed through by other people that were
124:21 through by other people that were working with Biden to get it done. And
124:23 working with Biden to get it done. And all she did, this is an Obama Obama
124:27 all she did, this is an Obama Obama pick.
124:29 pick. >> First of all, it was not incidentally
124:31 >> First of all, it was not incidentally Obama sucked on uh antitrust.
124:34 Obama sucked on uh antitrust. Um
124:36 Um I I don't think he's read anything. I
124:38 I I don't think he's read anything. I think he's not even expressing an
124:40 think he's not even expressing an opinion. He's just sort of shooting.
124:42 opinion. He's just sort of shooting. It's like it's like literally throwing
124:44 It's like it's like literally throwing darts at a wall in the dark.
124:46 darts at a wall in the dark. >> Didn't we have Lena Khan on when Obama
124:49 >> Didn't we have Lena Khan on when Obama was president? And
124:50 was president? And >> oh, the first time we had her on was in
124:52 >> oh, the first time we had her on was in 2012.
124:52 2012. >> Yeah. [laughter]
124:53 >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Uh and I think we had her on two or
124:55 >> Uh and I think we had her on two or three times uh you know through the
124:57 three times uh you know through the Obama years and uh and maybe the Trump
125:01 Obama years and uh and maybe the Trump years. And she was a professor. She
125:03 years. And she was a professor. She wrote a 2012 article titled Obama's Game
125:06 wrote a 2012 article titled Obama's Game of Chicken where she
125:08 of Chicken where she >> criticized the Obama administration to
125:10 >> criticized the Obama administration to failure to effectively address.
125:11 failure to effectively address. >> If anything, if anything in terms of who
125:14 >> If anything, if anything in terms of who influenced her pick would have been
125:15 influenced her pick would have been Elizabeth Warren or that uh folks in
125:18 Elizabeth Warren or that uh folks in that uh antitrust camp, but what happens
125:21 that uh antitrust camp, but what happens when Chad GPT does all your research?
125:22 when Chad GPT does all your research? >> It's just amazing. Like Tom, you have
125:25 >> It's just amazing. Like Tom, you have glasses. Uh tell us about this.
125:28 glasses. Uh tell us about this. [laughter]
125:29 [laughter] pushed through by other people that were
125:31 pushed through by other people that were working with Biden to get it done. And
125:32 working with Biden to get it done. And all she did for her time there was
125:35 all she did for her time there was question every merger. All mergers
125:37 question every merger. All mergers aren't bad. Sometimes mergers save jobs
125:39 aren't bad. Sometimes mergers save jobs by by creating a single stronger
125:41 by by creating a single stronger organization out of two. And she picked
125:44 organization out of two. And she picked on people. And I'm I'm not against that
125:47 on people. And I'm I'm not against that some of the things that Meadow was asked
125:49 some of the things that Meadow was asked to answer for like the um uh the the
125:52 to answer for like the um uh the the stuff they were intentionally trying to
125:53 stuff they were intentionally trying to hook young girls to to to get them to
125:56 hook young girls to to to get them to stay on and they were suffering, you
125:58 stay on and they were suffering, you know.
126:00 know. psychological effects. That's where
126:02 psychological effects. That's where government steps in to do good things
126:04 government steps in to do good things like OSHA, right? OSHA stepping in. But
126:06 like OSHA, right? OSHA stepping in. But what she was doing FTC, this was her
126:10 what she was doing FTC, this was her mandate. She was anti- capitalist. So it
126:13 mandate. She was anti- capitalist. So it wasn't just the FTC Pat trying to make
126:16 wasn't just the FTC Pat trying to make good business decisions, good decisions
126:18 good business decisions, good decisions about businesses to protect citizens and
126:20 about businesses to protect citizens and investors and things. She was actively
126:23 investors and things. She was actively anti- capitalist. And I believe that she
126:26 anti- capitalist. And I believe that she was put there by other people and that
126:29 was put there by other people and that Biden didn't really know what he put
126:30 Biden didn't really know what he put there. And now she, no surprise, the
126:33 there. And now she, no surprise, the lady picking on business is now picked
126:35 lady picking on business is now picked by Mandami to lead her transition to
126:37 by Mandami to lead her transition to lead his transition.
126:38 lead his transition. >> Yeah. One other thing to think about. I
126:40 >> Yeah. One other thing to think about. I mean, listen,
126:40 mean, listen, >> I just I it's so dumb. I can't even uh
126:43 >> I just I it's so dumb. I can't even uh she is um identified herself as a
126:47 she is um identified herself as a capitalist and uh the
126:53 capitalist and uh the the one of the the the major principles
126:56 the one of the the the major principles of antitrust
126:58 of antitrust is that it is attempting to allow more
127:03 is that it is attempting to allow more competition within uh markets and
127:06 competition within uh markets and businesses and actually allowing
127:09 businesses and actually allowing uh more entrepreneurs to flourish.
127:13 uh more entrepreneurs to flourish. Um,
127:16 Um, we're going to have, I think, uh,
127:17 we're going to have, I think, uh, tomorrow,
127:19 tomorrow, uh, Ryan Cooper.
127:21 uh, Ryan Cooper. >> Ryan Cooper is going to be on to talk
127:22 >> Ryan Cooper is going to be on to talk about the relationship between antitrust
127:24 about the relationship between antitrust and socialists. Um,
127:27 and socialists. Um, >> you want to hear Sausnik on it before we
127:29 >> you want to hear Sausnik on it before we get to
127:29 get to >> Yeah, let's let's hear secret sauce.
127:31 >> Yeah, let's let's hear secret sauce. >> He's not the policy guy, but he's uh
127:34 >> He's not the policy guy, but he's uh he's the tampon guy.
127:35 he's the tampon guy. >> Yeah.
127:36 >> Yeah. >> And the testosterone
127:37 >> And the testosterone >> to lead her transition to lead his
127:39 >> to lead her transition to lead his transition.
127:39 transition. >> Yeah. One other thing to think about, I
127:41 >> Yeah. One other thing to think about, I mean, listen, there's two ends of the
127:43 mean, listen, there's two ends of the spectrum. She's a progressive and she's
127:45 spectrum. She's a progressive and she's very aggressive when it comes to
127:47 very aggressive when it comes to monopolies and antitrust laws, which we
127:50 monopolies and antitrust laws, which we understand. We don't want monopolies in
127:51 understand. We don't want monopolies in this in this country.
127:53 this in this country. >> Okay?
127:53 >> Okay? >> But she's also what it would appear to
127:55 >> But she's also what it would appear to be very anti- capitalist. So,
127:58 be very anti- capitalist. So, >> uh, she I think she made her name really
128:00 >> uh, she I think she made her name really advocating against Amazon. And if you
128:02 advocating against Amazon. And if you remember what happened in New York right
128:04 remember what happened in New York right before CO, you have a representative in
128:08 before CO, you have a representative in New York named uh AOC, our friends in
128:10 New York named uh AOC, our friends in New York know her, who was vocally and
128:14 New York know her, who was vocally and politically opposed to Jeff Bezos moving
128:17 politically opposed to Jeff Bezos moving a headquarters HQ2 or something.
128:19 a headquarters HQ2 or something. >> Exactly. To New York. Do you know how
128:21 >> Exactly. To New York. Do you know how much money this would have brought to
128:23 much money this would have brought to New York? This, you know how many jobs
128:24 New York? This, you know how many jobs this would have brought to New York? How
128:25 this would have brought to New York? How much more
128:26 much more >> opportunity? Thousand jobs at $150,000
128:28 >> opportunity? Thousand jobs at $150,000 average salary. You don't think New
128:30 average salary. You don't think New Yorkers want that job. You don't think
128:32 Yorkers want that job. You don't think New Yorkers who are struggling with
128:33 New Yorkers who are struggling with affordability and the wage gap and the
128:35 affordability and the wage gap and the wealth gap wanted those jobs. So, it's
128:38 wealth gap wanted those jobs. So, it's okay to be antirust and anti- monopoly.
128:40 okay to be antirust and anti- monopoly. I get it. But when you're anti-
128:41 I get it. But when you're anti- capitalist and anti- business, that's
128:44 capitalist and anti- business, that's where people have a problem with people
128:45 where people have a problem with people like this.
128:45 like this. >> Well, aside from Lena Khan and AOC being
128:49 >> Well, aside from Lena Khan and AOC being both being women, uh it's not it's not
128:51 both being women, uh it's not it's not clear that uh Lena Khan was involved in
128:54 clear that uh Lena Khan was involved in that. But even if she was, the Amazon
128:57 that. But even if she was, the Amazon thing was a scam. They never even ended
128:59 thing was a scam. They never even ended up building any of those in the sweep
129:01 up building any of those in the sweep stakes that was going around. The in
129:04 stakes that was going around. The in terms of affordability, what was
129:05 terms of affordability, what was happening is that Amazon officials were
129:07 happening is that Amazon officials were coming in and buying up all the property
129:09 coming in and buying up all the property around there from out of state, driving
129:12 around there from out of state, driving up the prices of this stuff. The jobs
129:14 up the prices of this stuff. The jobs would have never materialized. Amazon
129:17 would have never materialized. Amazon ended up, you know, since that time
129:19 ended up, you know, since that time putting in thousands of jobs in New York
129:21 putting in thousands of jobs in New York City. Anyways,
129:23 City. Anyways, >> yeah, check out this data for progress
129:25 >> yeah, check out this data for progress write up by Fitzgerald and Colin
129:27 write up by Fitzgerald and Colin McDonald. why AOC was right about HQ2 if
129:30 McDonald. why AOC was right about HQ2 if you want.
129:31 you want. >> And it would have cost the uh city and
129:33 >> And it would have cost the uh city and state $3.5 billion.
129:36 state $3.5 billion. >> It's actually like that was such a sham.
129:38 >> It's actually like that was such a sham. It was Jeff Bezos basically making
129:41 It was Jeff Bezos basically making municipalities across the country give
129:43 municipalities across the country give him intelligence about their entire
129:45 him intelligence about their entire infrastructure. He was like, "Hey, we
129:48 infrastructure. He was like, "Hey, we don't want to spend the money to figure
129:52 don't want to spend the money to figure out and send deploy all of these people
129:54 out and send deploy all of these people across the country to assess where we
129:58 across the country to assess where we should have our warehouses, where the
130:01 should have our warehouses, where the best transportation is. We need to have
130:03 best transportation is. We need to have hubs all over the country." And so we're
130:06 hubs all over the country." And so we're going to pretend like we're having a
130:08 going to pretend like we're having a competition and you're all going to put
130:10 competition and you're all going to put in uh information to us that we couldn't
130:13 in uh information to us that we couldn't get otherwise. a lot of the stuff
130:14 get otherwise. a lot of the stuff probably sensitive and we're going to
130:17 probably sensitive and we're going to get a benefit over our competitors.
130:19 get a benefit over our competitors. We're going to see which roads can
130:21 We're going to see which roads can handle these type of uh logistics, which
130:24 handle these type of uh logistics, which uh roads can handle these type of of
130:26 uh roads can handle these type of of trucks, where could we find the most
130:28 trucks, where could we find the most amount of energy capacity to deploy
130:30 amount of energy capacity to deploy electric vehicles in this area, so on
130:32 electric vehicles in this area, so on and so on and so on. Information they
130:34 and so on and so on. Information they probably still using to this day. And I
130:37 probably still using to this day. And I don't think a lot of the New Yorkers
130:38 don't think a lot of the New Yorkers still living here struggling to pay rent
130:40 still living here struggling to pay rent are thinking they would have been in
130:41 are thinking they would have been in line for the uh corporate Amazon jobs
130:44 line for the uh corporate Amazon jobs that would have been moved there
130:45 that would have been moved there hypothetically.
130:47 hypothetically. Let's go to the phones.
130:50 Let's go to the phones. You calling from a 631 area code. Who's
130:53 You calling from a 631 area code. Who's this? Where are you calling from?
130:56 this? Where are you calling from? >> Uh is this Nassau County spokesperson
130:58 >> Uh is this Nassau County spokesperson from Nassau County?
130:59 from Nassau County? >> Nassau County spokesperson from Nassau
131:02 >> Nassau County spokesperson from Nassau County. Uh welcome to the program.
131:05 County. Uh welcome to the program. Thanks for having me. Uh, first thing
131:07 Thanks for having me. Uh, first thing I'll just start off with real quick is I
131:08 I'll just start off with real quick is I know you keep saying um you couldn't
131:11 know you keep saying um you couldn't find a loss for Democrats anywhere on
131:13 find a loss for Democrats anywhere on Tuesday. Well, look no further than the
131:16 Tuesday. Well, look no further than the great state of Long Island where I think
131:19 great state of Long Island where I think Republicans shifted to the or it shifted
131:22 Republicans shifted to the or it shifted to the right I think four or six more
131:24 to the right I think four or six more points. It was if you only lived here
131:27 points. It was if you only lived here and had no internet, you would think it
131:30 and had no internet, you would think it was a red wave. That's how rough it was
131:31 was a red wave. That's how rough it was out here. But
131:32 out here. But >> but wait, but did Democrats lose seats
131:35 >> but wait, but did Democrats lose seats that they held?
131:42 >> Um, no. It only just like the county legislator just actually technically the
131:45 legislator just actually technically the legislature after the maps were like
131:48 legislature after the maps were like unjerry mandered. I think it's instead
131:51 unjerry mandered. I think it's instead of being 127, it's 118. So that's the
131:54 of being 127, it's 118. So that's the only win I saw for Democrats out here in
131:57 only win I saw for Democrats out here in Nassau County. But nothing other than
131:59 Nassau County. But nothing other than that. Nothing flipped. No, no, nothing
132:02 that. Nothing flipped. No, no, nothing flipped. But my point is is that uh
132:03 flipped. But my point is is that uh Democrats weren't supposed to win.
132:05 Democrats weren't supposed to win. Nobody expected Democrats to win there.
132:09 Nobody expected Democrats to win there. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's that's true. But um
132:14 >> Yeah. Yeah, that's that's true. But um I just, you know, talking about Donnie
132:17 I just, you know, talking about Donnie and the city and all that. Just two
132:18 and the city and all that. Just two things I want to talk about city
132:20 things I want to talk about city related. one I saw or I'm seeing like
132:25 related. one I saw or I'm seeing like it's getting more probable that Chio is
132:28 it's getting more probable that Chio is gonna possibly primary Jeff.
132:30 gonna possibly primary Jeff. >> I think wasn't that announced today?
132:33 >> I think wasn't that announced today? >> The New York Times reported it, so maybe
132:35 >> The New York Times reported it, so maybe it's not officially announced.
132:35 it's not officially announced. >> Maybe it's noticial.
132:36 >> Maybe it's noticial. >> Yeah,
132:37 >> Yeah, >> I I think it's like they're reporting
132:39 >> I I think it's like they're reporting that he's telling like allies and stuff.
132:42 that he's telling like allies and stuff. I haven't seen him announce it, but that
132:44 I haven't seen him announce it, but that will
132:45 will >> that'll be fun. Um, I saw Zoron's or
132:48 >> that'll be fun. Um, I saw Zoron's or things that like he's gonna stay out of
132:50 things that like he's gonna stay out of it, which, you know, it is what it is,
132:52 it, which, you know, it is what it is, but you know, hopefully we could get
132:53 but you know, hopefully we could get something for him. Um, and then the only
132:56 something for him. Um, and then the only other thing I want to bring up is, um, I
132:59 other thing I want to bring up is, um, I saw David Dean's American Prospects. Um
133:03 saw David Dean's American Prospects. Um he released a
133:05 he released a article today or or someone wrote for
133:08 article today or or someone wrote for the paper that um they listed six things
133:11 the paper that um they listed six things that the Zoran administration can do
133:14 that the Zoran administration can do pretty quickly that could um really show
133:18 pretty quickly that could um really show like or like do a lot of good for the
133:20 like or like do a lot of good for the city. And I thought they were just
133:21 city. And I thought they were just really interesting things. And you know
133:23 really interesting things. And you know I'm sure you guys will be know you're
133:25 I'm sure you guys will be know you're friends with him. But some of the things
133:26 friends with him. But some of the things I thought was interesting was like they
133:28 I thought was interesting was like they said um that he could do like a New York
133:32 said um that he could do like a New York City public option for some medicines
133:36 City public option for some medicines like epipens and stuff that they could
133:38 like epipens and stuff that they could sell to hospitals. I saw he could
133:40 sell to hospitals. I saw he could announce like a sort of like state of
133:42 announce like a sort of like state of emergencies to like look into like price
133:45 emergencies to like look into like price gouging and um like grocery prices and
133:49 gouging and um like grocery prices and stuff like that. And I just thought
133:50 stuff like that. And I just thought that'd be you know typically for a
133:52 that'd be you know typically for a regular old Dem Democrat. I wouldn't
133:55 regular old Dem Democrat. I wouldn't expect much, but obviously since it's
133:57 expect much, but obviously since it's Zoran, I I am excited to see if he
133:59 Zoran, I I am excited to see if he actually does, you know, however many of
134:02 actually does, you know, however many of those six things. So, that'd be a really
134:04 those six things. So, that'd be a really great start to his uh his tenure, but
134:08 great start to his uh his tenure, but >> we'll see. Yeah, I'll I'll check out
134:09 >> we'll see. Yeah, I'll I'll check out that article. Appreciate the call.
134:11 that article. Appreciate the call. >> Yeah.
134:12 >> Yeah. >> Yep. Thank you.
134:15 >> Yep. Thank you. >> We'll see. Very important when Democrats
134:18 >> We'll see. Very important when Democrats win these uh type of races.
134:26 Social Democrats, Democratic Socialists, all of them when they win these type of
134:27 all of them when they win these type of races, they got to deliver.
134:31 races, they got to deliver. Got to deliver.
134:34 Got to deliver. Calling from a 603 area code. Who's
134:36 Calling from a 603 area code. Who's this? Where are you calling from? 603.
134:40 this? Where are you calling from? 603. >> Uh, is it me?
134:41 >> Uh, is it me? >> Yes, it is you.
134:43 >> Yes, it is you. >> Hi. Uh, I'm calling from New Hampshire,
134:46 >> Hi. Uh, I'm calling from New Hampshire, the great state with our two lovely
134:48 the great state with our two lovely senators.
134:49 senators. >> Yes. My understand is that uh Maggie
134:51 >> Yes. My understand is that uh Maggie Hassan's daughter is running for
134:53 Hassan's daughter is running for Congress up there and she is against the
134:55 Congress up there and she is against the deal.
134:56 deal. >> The cave.
134:57 >> The cave. >> Uh no, other way around. Shaheen's
134:59 >> Uh no, other way around. Shaheen's daughter.
134:59 daughter. >> Shaheen's daughter. Sorry.
135:01 >> Shaheen's daughter. Sorry. >> Yeah. I wanted to call to to shine a
135:04 >> Yeah. I wanted to call to to shine a light on some of the uh upcoming
135:06 light on some of the uh upcoming elections because I think some a lot of
135:08 elections because I think some a lot of people don't really know what's going on
135:10 people don't really know what's going on in the state. Um and I just wanted to
135:13 in the state. Um and I just wanted to say like so for the seat that is
135:15 say like so for the seat that is Shaheen's because she's retiring.
135:17 Shaheen's because she's retiring. Everyone's telling her to resign, but
135:18 Everyone's telling her to resign, but she's retiring anyway, and we choose to
135:19 she's retiring anyway, and we choose to be primary. We can't. Um, but Chris
135:22 be primary. We can't. Um, but Chris Papus is running for her seat, and he's
135:24 Papus is running for her seat, and he's our current representative, and he's
135:26 our current representative, and he's basically the exact same as them. Um,
135:28 basically the exact same as them. Um, you know, centrist, but already endorsed
135:31 you know, centrist, but already endorsed by Apac. Um, but running against him is
135:35 by Apac. Um, but running against him is Karishma Manzour, and she is a left-wing
135:39 Karishma Manzour, and she is a left-wing candidate. Um, I think that she should
135:41 candidate. Um, I think that she should be platformed more. Um, with regard to
135:45 be platformed more. Um, with regard to the representatives seats, for the seat
135:49 the representatives seats, for the seat that is currently Chris Papus', which is
135:51 that is currently Chris Papus', which is what Shaheen's daughter's running for,
135:52 what Shaheen's daughter's running for, so we can't let her in there. Um, I
135:55 so we can't let her in there. Um, I think Heath Howard is a great candidate.
135:57 think Heath Howard is a great candidate. Um, and then finally for governor,
135:58 Um, and then finally for governor, because we need to get rid of Kelly AOT.
136:00 because we need to get rid of Kelly AOT. Um, I would love to see John Kyper. So
136:04 Um, I would love to see John Kyper. So hopefully they those people can get a
136:06 hopefully they those people can get a better profile so we can actually elect
136:08 better profile so we can actually elect them.
136:10 them. >> Okay. And who did you say was running
136:11 >> Okay. And who did you say was running for uh that seat, the congressional
136:14 for uh that seat, the congressional seat?
136:16 seat? >> Uh Karishma Menzour.
136:18 >> Uh Karishma Menzour. >> No, she's running for the Senate seat.
136:19 >> No, she's running for the Senate seat. Who's running for the House seat?
136:22 Who's running for the House seat? >> Uh Heath Howard. Heath Howard.
136:23 >> Uh Heath Howard. Heath Howard. >> Heath Howard. Okay.
136:25 >> Heath Howard. Okay. >> Yeah. H E A T H.
136:27 >> Yeah. H E A T H. >> All right. We'll look into those folks.
136:29 >> All right. We'll look into those folks. >> All right. Great.
136:30 >> All right. Great. >> Appreciate the call.
136:32 >> Appreciate the call. >> Thank you.
136:42 We'll see. Let's do more candidates. Calling from a 203 area code. Who's
136:44 Calling from a 203 area code. Who's this? Where you calling from?
136:46 this? Where you calling from? Hello, this is John from the beautiful
136:50 Hello, this is John from the beautiful Oakland, California.
136:52 Oakland, California. Um, which Trump recently said was uh too
136:57 Um, which Trump recently said was uh too far gone to even discuss. Um, so uh
137:01 far gone to even discuss. Um, so uh there you go with that.
137:03 there you go with that. >> All right. Well, let's not discuss that.
137:05 >> All right. Well, let's not discuss that. What else you got?
137:06 What else you got? >> Yes, exactly. Um, I wanted to ask about
137:11 >> Yes, exactly. Um, I wanted to ask about I don't know if you already discussed
137:12 I don't know if you already discussed this, but um the strategy of the 10
137:17 this, but um the strategy of the 10 Democrats that uh folded. Do you think
137:20 Democrats that uh folded. Do you think that there may be
137:22 that there may be >> Wasn't it eight?
137:22 >> Wasn't it eight? >> The eight. Sorry.
137:25 >> The eight. Sorry. >> Uh I think yeah, eight, right?
137:27 >> Uh I think yeah, eight, right? >> Yeah.
137:28 >> Yeah. >> Were they accelerationists,
137:31 >> Were they accelerationists, do you think? Are they trying to
137:35 do you think? Are they trying to [laughter]
137:35 [laughter] They're just They just sold out.
137:37 They're just They just sold out. >> They're not uh you know, maybe they're
137:39 >> They're not uh you know, maybe they're on a
137:40 on a >> I think I think there's a mix of
137:42 >> I think I think there's a mix of probably uh motivations. You know, uh
137:46 probably uh motivations. You know, uh maybe Kane felt the pressure because
137:47 maybe Kane felt the pressure because he's got a lot of federal workers in
137:49 he's got a lot of federal workers in Virginia. Um ostensibly.
137:53 Virginia. Um ostensibly. Um
137:55 Um uh maybe there's something about uh
137:58 uh maybe there's something about uh Vegas and federal workers that may be
138:01 Vegas and federal workers that may be more people out there and I don't know
138:03 more people out there and I don't know Bureau of Land Management. I'm not sure.
138:06 Bureau of Land Management. I'm not sure. Uh but I think a big part of it was
138:08 Uh but I think a big part of it was again like I said earlier to avoid um uh
138:13 again like I said earlier to avoid um uh getting rid of the filibuster by the
138:15 getting rid of the filibuster by the Republicans. Um, and I think um, and
138:20 Republicans. Um, and I think um, and they were getting a lot of grief
138:22 they were getting a lot of grief probably because of uh, airline travel.
138:25 probably because of uh, airline travel. And I think some of them uh, voted that
138:27 And I think some of them uh, voted that way because they were doing a solid for
138:30 way because they were doing a solid for a friend of theirs in the Senate. And
138:32 a friend of theirs in the Senate. And so, um, you know, if you're, uh, if
138:36 so, um, you know, if you're, uh, if you're retiring as a senator,
138:41 you're retiring as a senator, my experience is is that 98% of them
138:45 my experience is is that 98% of them monetize those relationships.
138:48 monetize those relationships. And
138:50 And to allow them, you know, their fellow
138:52 to allow them, you know, their fellow senators to maintain the filibuster,
138:55 senators to maintain the filibuster, people reward that. Thanks, bud. Let me
138:58 people reward that. Thanks, bud. Let me know when you need something. Honestly,
139:01 know when you need something. Honestly, that's the way it works.
139:03 that's the way it works. Like, it's it's so hard.
139:05 Like, it's it's so hard. >> I'm sure it is.
139:05 >> I'm sure it is. >> It's so hard. I appreciate the call. Uh
139:08 >> It's so hard. I appreciate the call. Uh it is so hard I think for us to really
139:10 it is so hard I think for us to really wrap our heads around that
139:14 wrap our heads around that these people
139:16 these people will base the decisions that will impact
139:21 will base the decisions that will impact hundreds of millions of people
139:23 hundreds of millions of people on the same sort of like
139:28 on the same sort of like set of principles that you and I will
139:31 set of principles that you and I will use to determine whether we go to a
139:34 use to determine whether we go to a barbecue on the weekend.
139:37 barbecue on the weekend. I like that dude.
139:40 I like that dude. Or, you know, that was it's really sweet
139:43 Or, you know, that was it's really sweet of that guy to let me uh use his car cuz
139:47 of that guy to let me uh use his car cuz it would have been a huge hassle to go
139:48 it would have been a huge hassle to go to IKEA and have to uh you know, get
139:53 to IKEA and have to uh you know, get some type of like Uber that was big
139:54 some type of like Uber that was big enough to hold uh that chair.
139:59 enough to hold uh that chair. I I appreciate him doing a solid for me.
140:01 I I appreciate him doing a solid for me. You see this in how we mourn people like
140:03 You see this in how we mourn people like Dick Cheney and people talk about how
140:05 Dick Cheney and people talk about how like they had personal Yeah.
140:07 like they had personal Yeah. >> interactions with them. It's like not
140:08 >> interactions with them. It's like not interested.
140:09 interested. >> No. Horrible.
140:18 All right. One more uh at least one more call. Um
140:22 call. Um Russell from Bed IMS. Hey Sam, did I
140:24 Russell from Bed IMS. Hey Sam, did I scare you yesterday?
140:30 Calling from a 954 area code. Who's this? Where are you calling from?
140:32 this? Where are you calling from? >> Hey, this is um Matt from Coconut Creek,
140:34 >> Hey, this is um Matt from Coconut Creek, Florida. Not too far away from your uh
140:36 Florida. Not too far away from your uh your PBD friends.
140:38 your PBD friends. >> Matt from Coconut Creek. Um
140:42 >> Matt from Coconut Creek. Um maybe Andrew Cuomo will be a uh what do
140:45 maybe Andrew Cuomo will be a uh what do you call it?
140:46 you call it? >> A neighbor of mine.
140:47 >> A neighbor of mine. >> A neighbor of yours soon.
140:50 >> A neighbor of yours soon. >> Yeah. So, I um I called today I'm a I'm
140:53 >> Yeah. So, I um I called today I'm a I'm definitely biased on this. I'm a teacher
140:55 definitely biased on this. I'm a teacher and I am curious if you agree with me
140:58 and I am curious if you agree with me that I think there's a a hole that can
141:02 that I think there's a a hole that can be filled with um by uh progressives
141:05 be filled with um by uh progressives that want to run um for politics
141:09 that want to run um for politics with
141:10 with uh in regards to public education. I
141:14 uh in regards to public education. I think there's just so many things about
141:16 think there's just so many things about public education that everybody wants
141:18 public education that everybody wants fixed just like how you know right now e
141:20 fixed just like how you know right now e economic populism is becoming more and
141:22 economic populism is becoming more and more popular. uh amongst like just the
141:25 more popular. uh amongst like just the regular electorate, right? People who
141:26 regular electorate, right? People who don't follow this all that often. I
141:28 don't follow this all that often. I think it's just weird to me that the
141:30 think it's just weird to me that the that we rarely ever hear about uh
141:33 that we rarely ever hear about uh improvements in public education. Uh I I
141:35 improvements in public education. Uh I I don't live in New York, but I like I
141:37 don't live in New York, but I like I didn't really see that too much in like
141:40 didn't really see that too much in like Mom Donny's campaign. No. Um
141:42 Mom Donny's campaign. No. Um >> no. Uh in fact, I I asked him uh didn't
141:46 >> no. Uh in fact, I I asked him uh didn't I ask him that when he came up?
141:47 I ask him that when he came up? >> No, it's a question you gave me, but I
141:49 >> No, it's a question you gave me, but I didn't get a chance to ask a press. I
141:51 didn't get a chance to ask a press. I mean his only the only thing he spoke
141:54 mean his only the only thing he spoke about education was he did I think like
141:57 about education was he did I think like in some of his acceptance speeches
141:59 in some of his acceptance speeches talking about adding teachers uh and
142:02 talking about adding teachers uh and talk about cutting uh outside
142:04 talk about cutting uh outside consultants all which uh you know broad
142:07 consultants all which uh you know broad strokes good but there the Democratic
142:11 strokes good but there the Democratic party has been completely bereft of
142:15 party has been completely bereft of educational ideas since the failure of
142:20 educational ideas since the failure of the corporate reform movement um was
142:25 the corporate reform movement um was more or less accepted, right? Like high
142:27 more or less accepted, right? Like high stakes testing got rolled back. The
142:30 stakes testing got rolled back. The whole uh value ad uh teaching u uh
142:34 whole uh value ad uh teaching u uh measurements got rolled back. Uh the
142:37 measurements got rolled back. Uh the Rand Corporation was hired by the Gates
142:40 Rand Corporation was hired by the Gates Foundation to assess the Gates
142:42 Foundation to assess the Gates Foundation's uh 10-year long uh maybe
142:46 Foundation's uh 10-year long uh maybe 12-year long educational experiment and
142:48 12-year long educational experiment and basically said, "Yeah, no, it didn't
142:50 basically said, "Yeah, no, it didn't work. You should have listened to
142:51 work. You should have listened to educators." I mean, literally, that's
142:53 educators." I mean, literally, that's what it said. Uh meanwhile, our entire
142:56 what it said. Uh meanwhile, our entire public education system went off the
142:58 public education system went off the rails. I I think
143:02 rails. I I think I I think particularly in the wake of
143:04 I I think particularly in the wake of COVID when we still have um you know
143:10 COVID when we still have um you know people who entered into the public
143:12 people who entered into the public school system
143:14 school system would the youngest cohort would be like
143:17 would the youngest cohort would be like 11 or 10 right now in terms of COVID.
143:21 11 or 10 right now in terms of COVID. Um, and I think like everybody's been in
143:25 Um, and I think like everybody's been in this sort of like recover from COVID
143:27 this sort of like recover from COVID mode, try and just like deal with uh
143:30 mode, try and just like deal with uh kids propensity for uh absence uh that
143:34 kids propensity for uh absence uh that came out of COVID uh you know maybe
143:38 came out of COVID uh you know maybe um like uh kids who are like uh you know
143:43 um like uh kids who are like uh you know 10, 11, 12,
143:46 10, 11, 12, 13 maybe now have some like fundamental
143:50 13 maybe now have some like fundamental um issues like with like handwriting
143:52 um issues like with like handwriting maybe or sentence structure, stuff that
143:54 maybe or sentence structure, stuff that you learn in first grade and maybe a
143:57 you learn in first grade and maybe a little bit into second grade, that type
143:58 little bit into second grade, that type of thing. Um,
144:00 of thing. Um, >> yeah. And so there's no sort of like
144:04 >> yeah. And so there's no sort of like I haven't seen and I have to be honest I
144:07 I haven't seen and I have to be honest I haven't paid attention to it in the way
144:08 haven't paid attention to it in the way that I used to uh any new big education
144:12 that I used to uh any new big education ideas coming out there but I think like
144:15 ideas coming out there but I think like it's an era where people need to um
144:20 it's an era where people need to um organize strengthen uh teachers unions
144:24 organize strengthen uh teachers unions and also you know like during the era of
144:28 and also you know like during the era of that value ad teaching in high stakes
144:30 that value ad teaching in high stakes testing.
144:32 testing. I think we lost like a generation of
144:34 I think we lost like a generation of teachers who basically were like, I'm
144:37 teachers who basically were like, I'm not a robot. This doesn't make sense. I
144:40 not a robot. This doesn't make sense. I went into education, you know, like
144:42 went into education, you know, like people go into education because if
144:45 people go into education because if you're really serious about teaching,
144:48 you're really serious about teaching, you understand that it's really like it
144:51 you understand that it's really like it is student centric like the you you go
144:55 is student centric like the you you go and meet the students where they are.
144:58 and meet the students where they are. And for 20 years we had a system that
145:00 And for 20 years we had a system that basically said no you bring the students
145:04 basically said no you bring the students you know you take these around uh pegs
145:06 you know you take these around uh pegs and put it into this square hole. Uh and
145:09 and put it into this square hole. Uh and it basically took the ability of
145:11 it basically took the ability of teachers to
145:14 teachers to uh to exercise their fundamental sort of
145:18 uh to exercise their fundamental sort of strength as a teacher which is like
145:20 strength as a teacher which is like assess what a kid's needs are and
145:22 assess what a kid's needs are and address those individually. it took it
145:25 address those individually. it took it out of their hands and they had to teach
145:27 out of their hands and they had to teach to a test. And so, um, I I think there
145:31 to a test. And so, um, I I think there is an opportunity, but I think we we're
145:33 is an opportunity, but I think we we're like a cycle or two away from that.
145:36 like a cycle or two away from that. >> Yeah. I because I just like to add like
145:38 >> Yeah. I because I just like to add like I think that it's like the main thing I
145:40 I think that it's like the main thing I think for me is because capital D
145:42 think for me is because capital D Democrats are like completely unable to
145:44 Democrats are like completely unable to articulate um a a counterpoint against
145:48 articulate um a a counterpoint against like the sneakiest thing against public
145:50 like the sneakiest thing against public schools right now, which is school
145:52 schools right now, which is school choice. um they they can't because if
145:55 choice. um they they can't because if they're if you're for austerity, school
145:56 they're if you're for austerity, school choices go hard to to to counterattack.
146:01 choices go hard to to to counterattack. But progressives, I feel like have a
146:03 But progressives, I feel like have a much better way of of dealing with uh
146:06 much better way of of dealing with uh that situation.
146:07 that situation. >> That's always been the case. And I will
146:08 >> That's always been the case. And I will say that is almost like not even
146:10 say that is almost like not even specific to an educational theory. Like
146:14 specific to an educational theory. Like the argument is that public schools are
146:17 the argument is that public schools are a fundamental building block of a
146:20 a fundamental building block of a democratic society. that the first thing
146:23 democratic society. that the first thing that we did as a country to expand our
146:28 that we did as a country to expand our citizenry when we had freed slaves in
146:30 citizenry when we had freed slaves in this country was to institute a uh
146:34 this country was to institute a uh public education system.
146:38 public education system. And it is fundamental to democracy. and
146:42 And it is fundamental to democracy. and supposed school choice is nothing more
146:45 supposed school choice is nothing more than a subsidy to rich people to send
146:47 than a subsidy to rich people to send their kids to private school and an
146:49 their kids to private school and an attack on this pillar of democracy which
146:53 attack on this pillar of democracy which is public school education. It is about
146:57 is public school education. It is about not just uh putting people into jobs.
146:59 not just uh putting people into jobs. It's about creating a an informed and
147:02 It's about creating a an informed and educated citizenry. not just about
147:06 educated citizenry. not just about knowledge for knowledge sake, although
147:08 knowledge for knowledge sake, although that's hugely important, but also their
147:11 that's hugely important, but also their roles as citizens in our country. And so
147:13 roles as citizens in our country. And so when Republicans attack that, what
147:15 when Republicans attack that, what they're really attacking is democracy.
147:17 they're really attacking is democracy. You don't need to have an education or a
147:20 You don't need to have an education or a pedagogical theory uh to defend public
147:24 pedagogical theory uh to defend public education. But I think, you know, too
147:26 education. But I think, you know, too many Democrats are just, you know, uh,
147:28 many Democrats are just, you know, uh, back on their heels on all this stuff
147:30 back on their heels on all this stuff because we had 20 years of this
147:34 because we had 20 years of this corporate reform that undermined that
147:37 corporate reform that undermined that premise. And so, uh, we need more of
147:40 premise. And so, uh, we need more of that, but I appreciate the call.
147:43 that, but I appreciate the call. >> Thank you. All right. Have a good one.
147:46 >> Thank you. All right. Have a good one. >> Did you hear, uh, reportedly Kid Rock
147:48 >> Did you hear, uh, reportedly Kid Rock said he's cancing all tour dates in New
147:50 said he's cancing all tour dates in New York City because he doesn't sing for
147:52 York City because he doesn't sing for commies?
147:54 commies? I better get a refund.
147:55 I better get a refund. >> Oh my tickets. I'll tell you right now.
147:58 >> Oh my tickets. I'll tell you right now. >> I I did some rese.
148:02 >> I I did some rese. >> He had no announced dates in New York
148:04 >> He had no announced dates in New York City.
148:05 City. >> But anyway,
148:07 >> But anyway, >> wow. It's too bad there's a lot of
148:09 >> wow. It's too bad there's a lot of disappointed people.
148:09 disappointed people. >> He does have a new tour out that he's
148:11 >> He does have a new tour out that he's promoting. So, I wonder if that has
148:12 promoting. So, I wonder if that has anything to do with
148:15 anything to do with >> I I I for one am waiting for the uh
148:19 >> I I I for one am waiting for the uh million people that the New York Post
148:21 million people that the New York Post said we're going to leave the the city.
148:24 said we're going to leave the the city. >> I know
148:24 >> I know >> like today it felt like that a little
148:26 >> like today it felt like that a little bit because it was Veterans Day.
148:27 bit because it was Veterans Day. >> Have you checked apartment prices of the
148:29 >> Have you checked apartment prices of the uh
148:30 uh >> just like the sidewalks aren't that
148:31 >> just like the sidewalks aren't that crowded?
148:33 crowded? >> Yeah, I I'm that was kind of my uh I was
148:37 >> Yeah, I I'm that was kind of my uh I was kind of hedging on them leaving. That's
148:38 kind of hedging on them leaving. That's kind of the
148:40 kind of the That was my savings account, basically.
148:42 That was my savings account, basically. >> Let's Let's hope things are about to get
148:44 >> Let's Let's hope things are about to get a lot cheaper. No more lines.
148:48 a lot cheaper. No more lines. No more lines at your favorite
148:49 No more lines at your favorite restaurant.
148:57 Uh, all right. Let's just do this I got it. [laughter]
149:05 Here's Bill M. Bill Maher having uh Mrs. RFK Jr. on his program.
149:08 RFK Jr. on his program. >> [laughter]
149:08 >> [laughter] >> Right.
149:09 >> Right. >> Yes. Um it's just so embarrassing that
149:13 >> Yes. Um it's just so embarrassing that that could be one of your her titles.
149:16 that could be one of your her titles. >> Uh
149:18 >> Uh what what's her first name again?
149:20 what what's her first name again? >> Cheryl Hines.
149:20 >> Cheryl Hines. >> Cheryl Hines. Yeah. Cheryl Hines uh is
149:23 >> Cheryl Hines. Yeah. Cheryl Hines uh is sort of living
149:26 sort of living >> at one point there was a joke I once
149:29 >> at one point there was a joke I once heard about LA. Um I can't remember who
149:32 heard about LA. Um I can't remember who it was and I apologize for that. It's
149:35 it was and I apologize for that. It's very bad form. I want to maybe like
149:38 very bad form. I want to maybe like Drake Sather or it could have been I
149:40 Drake Sather or it could have been I don't know if it was I or Jake Johansson
149:44 don't know if it was I or Jake Johansson somebody somebody I can't
149:45 somebody somebody I can't >> a solid joke writer.
149:46 >> a solid joke writer. >> Yeah I can't remember and it was like um
149:49 >> Yeah I can't remember and it was like um you know when you first move out to LA
149:51 you know when you first move out to LA you really
149:53 you really you hate it and then uh something inside
149:56 you hate it and then uh something inside you dies and
150:00 you dies and I think we are now looking at Cheryl
150:02 I think we are now looking at Cheryl Hines after something inside her had
150:04 Hines after something inside her had died. um RFK
150:09 died. um RFK after he nearly escaped that barrage of
150:12 after he nearly escaped that barrage of naked uh photos that he was being forced
150:15 naked uh photos that he was being forced to look at uh from the from um
150:19 to look at uh from the from um >> Olivia Nuzi um who was completely just
150:23 >> Olivia Nuzi um who was completely just out of the blue sending him naked photos
150:25 out of the blue sending him naked photos as a way of
150:26 as a way of >> harassing her because she's also a
150:28 >> harassing her because she's also a member of the media.
150:29 member of the media. >> I'm being bullied with sex messages. Um
150:33 >> I'm being bullied with sex messages. Um and yes, uh she then basically uh moved
150:38 and yes, uh she then basically uh moved forward past that um to be able to go
150:42 forward past that um to be able to go out in public um even though her husband
150:46 out in public um even though her husband was uh basically usurping um the ability
150:49 was uh basically usurping um the ability of this country to fight uh uh public
150:52 of this country to fight uh uh public health crisis. Uh that got her a trip to
150:58 health crisis. Uh that got her a trip to Bill Maher's studio. And here uh here is
151:01 Bill Maher's studio. And here uh here is Bill Maher uh pontificating. Remember
151:04 Bill Maher uh pontificating. Remember Bill Maher still trying to justify his
151:06 Bill Maher still trying to justify his going and having a dinner with Donald
151:08 going and having a dinner with Donald Trump.
151:09 Trump. >> Again, one good thing about Trump, he
151:12 >> Again, one good thing about Trump, he really really does not like war,
151:14 really really does not like war, >> which I love that about him.
151:15 >> which I love that about him. >> I kind of do because I don't want war
151:18 >> I kind of do because I don't want war either and most of them are unnecessary.
151:20 either and most of them are unnecessary. >> Agreed. I mean, um, he took a long time
151:23 >> Agreed. I mean, um, he took a long time when I had that dinner with him talking
151:25 when I had that dinner with him talking about the pictures he sees coming from
151:28 about the pictures he sees coming from Ukraine, the stuff that doesn't get out
151:30 Ukraine, the stuff that doesn't get out on the news.
151:30 on the news. >> I'll pause it for a second.
151:31 >> I'll pause it for a second. Incidentally, I don't want you to like
151:33 Incidentally, I don't want you to like just want to make this clear.
151:35 just want to make this clear. >> Bill Maher is like is so fallen into the
151:39 >> Bill Maher is like is so fallen into the trap. Donald Trump is famous for sharing
151:44 trap. Donald Trump is famous for sharing classified information to people who
151:46 classified information to people who come to to make him feel good about
151:49 come to to make him feel good about himself.
151:50 himself. And you have to be as equally insecure
151:54 And you have to be as equally insecure to not realize that's what he's doing
151:56 to not realize that's what he's doing and think like I'm special. Uh Donald
151:59 and think like I'm special. Uh Donald Trump was telling me in particular about
152:00 Trump was telling me in particular about pictures he had seen that day. It just
152:02 pictures he had seen that day. It just so happens that he had seen the pictures
152:04 so happens that he had seen the pictures that day and was like Donald Trump is
152:06 that day and was like Donald Trump is like immediately like I got to impress
152:08 like immediately like I got to impress Bill Mer. I got to impress Bill Mer. And
152:10 Bill Mer. I got to impress Bill Mer. And Bill Maher of course thinks that he's
152:12 Bill Maher of course thinks that he's impressive. So it doesn't occur to him
152:14 impressive. So it doesn't occur to him that like Donald Trump is like so
152:16 that like Donald Trump is like so desperate to uh like make it seem I mean
152:20 desperate to uh like make it seem I mean it's just
152:23 it's just if you have a con man at the top of a a
152:29 if you have a con man at the top of a a of a hierarchy,
152:32 of a hierarchy, the people around him are necessarily
152:34 the people around him are necessarily sort of like incompetent thinkers and
152:37 sort of like incompetent thinkers and equally like incompetent like they're
152:40 equally like incompetent like they're con men themselves.
152:42 con men themselves. It reminds me of PBD as well.
152:44 It reminds me of PBD as well. >> Totally.
152:46 >> Totally. >> Totally. All you need to do is just suck
152:48 >> Totally. All you need to do is just suck up the power and that's it. And it Pete
152:52 up the power and that's it. And it Pete Hegsith for instance. I mean it's all
152:54 Hegsith for instance. I mean it's all over the administration cut
152:55 over the administration cut >> from Ukraine. Stuff that doesn't get out
152:57 >> from Ukraine. Stuff that doesn't get out on the news. It's like raw footage of
153:00 on the news. It's like raw footage of bodies in the field. Yes.
153:01 bodies in the field. Yes. >> And it you could tell it really moved
153:03 >> And it you could tell it really moved him. I wonder if it moved him to see all
153:06 him. I wonder if it moved him to see all those raw footage of the babies in Gaza.
153:10 those raw footage of the babies in Gaza. Really not so much. I wonder why that
153:11 Really not so much. I wonder why that is. There's something about the tone of
153:15 is. There's something about the tone of it. I'm looking at it and I look at the
153:18 it. I'm looking at it and I look at the pictures. There's a tone, [laughter] a
153:21 pictures. There's a tone, [laughter] a tone, a skin tone almost about the uh
153:25 tone, a skin tone almost about the uh footage from the Ukraine.
153:26 footage from the Ukraine. >> If Trump feels any different about
153:28 >> If Trump feels any different about Ukraine, it's because he feels a slight
153:30 Ukraine, it's because he feels a slight from Putin that he didn't like
153:32 from Putin that he didn't like >> wind it up for him.
153:34 >> wind it up for him. and I can I'm kind of guy who can fix
153:38 and I can I'm kind of guy who can fix this at least, you know, he [laughter]
153:41 this at least, you know, he [laughter] he's never [clears throat] not going to
153:42 he's never [clears throat] not going to be Trump. So, of course, he's like, I I
153:44 be Trump. So, of course, he's like, I I solved nine wars and you know, okay,
153:47 solved nine wars and you know, okay, even if it's half that, it's still good
153:49 even if it's half that, it's still good that we're solving them and not starting
153:51 that we're solving them and not starting them.
153:51 them. >> That that that's the thing that I find
153:53 >> That that that's the thing that I find um
153:55 um that I really like about
153:58 that I really like about um President Trump when he talks about
154:00 um President Trump when he talks about wars and talks about
154:04 wars and talks about and he [snorts] talks about um Ukraine
154:07 and he [snorts] talks about um Ukraine and Russia and he's and he will say
154:10 and Russia and he's and he will say they're they're losing
154:13 they're they're losing people on both sides and it's not just
154:16 people on both sides and it's not just >> Ukraine is losing people. It's not just
154:18 >> Ukraine is losing people. It's not just Russia is losing people. He sees like
154:20 Russia is losing people. He sees like both sid this is a loss a true loss for
154:23 both sid this is a loss a true loss for for both sides.
154:24 for both sides. >> And you can feel it from him when he
154:27 >> And you can feel it from him when he when he talks about
154:29 when he talks about >> that loss.
154:31 >> that loss. What a what an amazing insight. There
154:33 What a what an amazing insight. There are people on both sides who are dying
154:36 are people on both sides who are dying in this war.
154:37 in this war. >> And I feel it. So
154:38 >> And I feel it. So >> is this their way of just avoiding
154:40 >> is this their way of just avoiding what's going on? What what has been
154:42 what's going on? What what has been going on in Israel and Gaza?
154:43 going on in Israel and Gaza? Incidentally, like 300 Palestinians have
154:46 Incidentally, like 300 Palestinians have been killed since the ceasefire.
154:52 >> This is just a perfect conversation between two actors.
154:54 between two actors. >> Yes, [laughter]
154:56 >> Yes, [laughter] it is. It is.
154:57 it is. It is. >> I like that about him. Me too. half inch
155:00 >> I like that about him. Me too. half inch deep. [laughter] Not even
155:04 deep. [laughter] Not even not even like it's so it's so shallow
155:07 not even like it's so it's so shallow that you can almost like not get wet.
155:11 that you can almost like not get wet. >> But they have a mission.
155:12 >> But they have a mission. >> Was it was it was the if a pool was this
155:15 >> Was it was it was the if a pool was this shallow you would get in it and they're
155:16 shallow you would get in it and they're like I'm not even wet. Like it's I'm
155:19 like I'm not even wet. Like it's I'm literally can actually like I'm like
155:22 literally can actually like I'm like hydroplaning.
155:24 hydroplaning. [laughter]
155:25 [laughter] >> I mean they were talking for two and a
155:27 >> I mean they were talking for two and a half hours.
155:28 half hours. >> Yeah. They go into another part where
155:30 >> Yeah. They go into another part where she was like,
155:30 she was like, >> "Put up uh Kyle Kolinsk's uh tweet
155:33 >> "Put up uh Kyle Kolinsk's uh tweet because just as a reminder,
155:37 because just as a reminder, we have killed almost uh 80 people now
155:43 we have killed almost uh 80 people now in the Pacific and the Caribbean uh uh
155:46 in the Pacific and the Caribbean uh uh sea
155:56 Kyle had a good point. Trump has bombed ships from Trinidad and Tobago,
155:58 ships from Trinidad and Tobago, Colombia, and Venezuela. He's
155:59 Colombia, and Venezuela. He's threatening regime change. He's bombed
156:01 threatening regime change. He's bombed Yemen, Somalia, Iran. He's threatened
156:04 Yemen, Somalia, Iran. He's threatened Greenland and Panama and Canada. And
156:07 Greenland and Panama and Canada. And this is only in his second term.
156:16 I hate what Look at all the time codes for this. People giving up
156:19 for this. People giving up so much their life.
156:22 so much their life. >> [laughter]
156:24 >> [laughter] >> Um, let's uh do run this clip.
156:32 >> Well, maybe maybe we should save this for tomorrow. Let's save the uh clip uh
156:35 for tomorrow. Let's save the uh clip uh >> no. Uh from Muhammad's sister in Do we
156:40 >> no. Uh from Muhammad's sister in Do we have that?
156:41 have that? >> Yeah, it's in the tech chat, but we
156:42 >> Yeah, it's in the tech chat, but we could also do it in the free half
156:43 could also do it in the free half tomorrow if you want.
156:44 tomorrow if you want. >> Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it tomorrow
156:45 >> Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it tomorrow at the end of the the free half of the
156:48 at the end of the the free half of the show. Um,
156:54 folks, should we take one more quick phone
156:56 should we take one more quick phone call? One more quickie.
156:59 call? One more quickie. Let's see what we got here.
157:03 Let's see what we got here. I don't know what 719-610
157:06 I don't know what 719-610 631.
157:08 631. Everybody's been hanging on 49 minutes.
157:10 Everybody's been hanging on 49 minutes. 610. Who's this? Where you calling from?
157:13 610. Who's this? Where you calling from? >> Hey, that's me.
157:16 >> Hey, that's me. >> Yes, it is you. Who is this and where
157:17 >> Yes, it is you. Who is this and where you from?
157:19 you from? >> Uh, this is Marty from uh southeast
157:21 >> Uh, this is Marty from uh southeast Pennsylvania.
157:22 Pennsylvania. >> Marty from southeast Pennsylvania. What
157:24 >> Marty from southeast Pennsylvania. What is on your mind, Marty?
157:27 is on your mind, Marty? >> All right. I've been kicking an idea
157:28 >> All right. I've been kicking an idea around for I don't know, couple weeks
157:31 around for I don't know, couple weeks now. Uh,
157:33 now. Uh, uh, I was wondering if you'd mind if I,
157:35 uh, I was wondering if you'd mind if I, uh, defended the thesis.
157:37 uh, defended the thesis. >> Uh, it probably depends on what the idea
157:39 >> Uh, it probably depends on what the idea is, but go ahead. Let's
157:41 is, but go ahead. Let's >> All right.
157:42 >> All right. Well, I've been I I saw a bunch of
157:44 Well, I've been I I saw a bunch of rumblings earlier on when the DSA had
157:47 rumblings earlier on when the DSA had their big convention about how some of
157:49 their big convention about how some of them wanted to start their own party and
157:52 them wanted to start their own party and uh I don't think they're big enough for
157:54 uh I don't think they're big enough for that yet, but I do think that they're
157:56 that yet, but I do think that they're big enough to
157:59 big enough to I don't know leverage a better position
158:02 I don't know leverage a better position if they started moving towards the
158:04 if they started moving towards the Greens instead of staying as like an
158:06 Greens instead of staying as like an endorsement wing of the Democrats
158:10 endorsement wing of the Democrats where they could actually like run their
158:12 where they could actually like run their candidates.
158:19 >> Sorry. Go ahead. Matt Matt is Matt is Matt is having a meltdown right now.
158:21 Matt is having a meltdown right now. >> He's had to leave the room. He's had to
158:23 >> He's had to leave the room. He's had to leave the room.
158:24 leave the room. >> I think I think the I think the issue is
158:26 >> I think I think the I think the issue is is that um the Green Party
158:30 is that um the Green Party is is there is has the Green Party had a
158:33 is is there is has the Green Party had a particular success in southeast um
158:36 particular success in southeast um Pennsylvania?
158:38 Pennsylvania? Not necessarily, but um
158:40 Not necessarily, but um >> where whereas
158:48 that's a very good question, but uh if I when I'm looking online, I see that
158:50 when I'm looking online, I see that they've got ballot access in about half
158:52 they've got ballot access in about half the states. Um but these things kind of
158:55 the states. Um but these things kind of grow exponentially, not linearly. So,
158:58 grow exponentially, not linearly. So, you know, 24% is actually closer to 100%
159:02 you know, 24% is actually closer to 100% or 50% is actually closer to 100% than
159:04 or 50% is actually closer to 100% than like, you know,
159:06 like, you know, >> zero
159:06 >> zero >> anything. Yeah. Um,
159:09 >> anything. Yeah. Um, >> here's the problem. Here's the problem.
159:12 >> here's the problem. Here's the problem. Here's here's the problem, I think, is
159:13 Here's here's the problem, I think, is that is that um
159:16 that is that um the Green Party,
159:19 the Green Party, >> for whatever reason,
159:21 >> for whatever reason, >> has been just a mess. How many
159:25 >> has been just a mess. How many candidates do they have running in like
159:27 candidates do they have running in like first of all they shouldn't be running
159:28 first of all they shouldn't be running people for the presidency.
159:30 people for the presidency. >> It is
159:31 >> It is >> I agree. I agree.
159:32 >> I agree. I agree. >> And and and and this has been going on
159:34 >> And and and and this has been going on now for
159:37 now for >> 30 years.
159:37 >> 30 years. >> They should be focusing more on like
159:39 >> They should be focusing more on like House of Representatives if I'm being
159:41 House of Representatives if I'm being honest.
159:41 honest. >> Yes. But like that's what I think like
159:44 >> Yes. But like that's what I think like uh historically uh an organized group of
159:48 uh historically uh an organized group of left of left-wing people taking over a
159:52 left of left-wing people taking over a an otherwise more abund and party and uh
159:56 an otherwise more abund and party and uh kind of using it using that network to
160:00 kind of using it using that network to uh you know fill out a coalition.
160:03 uh you know fill out a coalition. >> I mean look I mean that's that's how
160:06 >> I mean look I mean that's that's how that's how
160:08 that's how Okay, you go. You go. It's your show.
160:10 Okay, you go. You go. It's your show. >> No, no, no. I I get I I get what you're
160:12 >> No, no, no. I I get I I get what you're saying and and I think like um but
160:14 saying and and I think like um but here's the options, right? I mean,
160:17 here's the options, right? I mean, there's three options, it seems to me.
160:18 there's three options, it seems to me. Uh one, the DSA does not get that
160:21 Uh one, the DSA does not get that involved in electoral politics at this
160:23 involved in electoral politics at this point. They continue to grow and build
160:25 point. They continue to grow and build their strength as an organization. Um
160:28 their strength as an organization. Um you know, or they pursue taking over the
160:33 you know, or they pursue taking over the Green Party, which it sounds like what
160:35 Green Party, which it sounds like what you're suggesting because there's
160:36 you're suggesting because there's already ballot access there. I don't
160:38 already ballot access there. I don't necessarily say take it over, but like
160:40 necessarily say take it over, but like be like a a very sizable minor. Like
160:43 be like a a very sizable minor. Like there's like what 86,000 people in DSA,
160:47 there's like what 86,000 people in DSA, right? Uh you total up all the other uh
160:50 right? Uh you total up all the other uh loosely affiliated political clubs in
160:53 loosely affiliated political clubs in America, you might get say 120,000
160:56 America, you might get say 120,000 people. That's about half of what the
160:58 people. That's about half of what the Green Party has right now. So you add
161:01 Green Party has right now. So you add that together, that's about a third.
161:02 that together, that's about a third. That's a that's about a third of what
161:04 That's a that's about a third of what they got. And uh I'm pretty sure that if
161:08 they got. And uh I'm pretty sure that if your chapter is the reason that the
161:10 your chapter is the reason that the Green Party has ballot access in your
161:12 Green Party has ballot access in your state, that means that you get to run
161:14 state, that means that you get to run your candidates as you see fit cuz
161:17 your candidates as you see fit cuz you're kind of the reason why they get
161:19 you're kind of the reason why they get to do it in the first place.
161:20 to do it in the first place. >> I mean, it's not inconceivable.
161:23 >> I mean, it's not inconceivable. >> I know there's a lot of cons and I not a
161:25 >> I know there's a lot of cons and I not a lot of pros. It's not inconceivable to
161:27 lot of pros. It's not inconceivable to me that um putting aside what might be
161:30 me that um putting aside what might be the actual agenda of the of the DSA,
161:34 the actual agenda of the of the DSA, just putting that aside for a moment,
161:36 just putting that aside for a moment, that taking over a Green Party in an
161:40 that taking over a Green Party in an area where uh they have ballot access
161:42 area where uh they have ballot access and actually sort of like gearing
161:44 and actually sort of like gearing towards something that has, you know,
161:47 towards something that has, you know, more to accomplish. But I just don't
161:48 more to accomplish. But I just don't think that the DSA is interested in that
161:50 think that the DSA is interested in that right now. And I think that like I mean
161:54 right now. And I think that like I mean you just saw the DSA and granted it's
161:57 you just saw the DSA and granted it's New York, but I mean presumably any
161:59 New York, but I mean presumably any place where the Green Party has any type
162:01 place where the Green Party has any type of strength, it's going to be uh fairly,
162:03 of strength, it's going to be uh fairly, you know, more progressive. We just saw
162:05 you know, more progressive. We just saw the DSA uh get one of their own elected
162:08 the DSA uh get one of their own elected mayor of New York City.
162:10 mayor of New York City. >> Yeah. And uh he voted for himself on the
162:13 >> Yeah. And uh he voted for himself on the working family ticket, which I think
162:16 working family ticket, which I think kind of
162:17 kind of >> Well, that's fusion voting.
162:18 >> Well, that's fusion voting. >> He's got
162:19 >> He's got >> that's fusion voting. I know
162:21 >> that's fusion voting. I know >> that's fusion voting, which is different
162:23 >> that's fusion voting, which is different in New York. I don't know. In
162:24 in New York. I don't know. In Pennsylvania, I think the WFP is there.
162:26 Pennsylvania, I think the WFP is there. I'm not sure they have fusion voting,
162:27 I'm not sure they have fusion voting, but that's a different thing.
162:28 but that's a different thing. >> Mhm.
162:29 >> Mhm. >> And I I'm all in favor of fusion voting.
162:31 >> And I I'm all in favor of fusion voting. I mean, I've never voted for a Democrat
162:33 I mean, I've never voted for a Democrat who is also on the WFP line. I've always
162:36 who is also on the WFP line. I've always voted for the WPF line. Uh WFP line
162:40 voted for the WPF line. Uh WFP line first. Always.
162:47 >> All right. Well, it was just some like I I was just thinking like if they could
162:49 I was just thinking like if they could get say
162:50 get say >> Well, why wouldn't you take over the
162:52 >> Well, why wouldn't you take over the Democratic party?
162:53 Democratic party? >> Like if you're talking about bigger
162:55 >> Like if you're talking about bigger because they're much bigger and much
162:57 because they're much bigger and much harder to take over and I'd rather
162:59 harder to take over and I'd rather >> I'd rather fight them on their own terms
163:01 >> I'd rather fight them on their own terms than fight them inside their own
163:02 than fight them inside their own bureaucracy. Do do you know how first of
163:04 bureaucracy. Do do you know how first of all I I have a feeling that the Green
163:06 all I I have a feeling that the Green Party bureaucracy is just as is as mired
163:08 Party bureaucracy is just as is as mired as any other bureaucracy. But in the
163:11 as any other bureaucracy. But in the efforts that it would be associated in
163:13 efforts that it would be associated in taking over a Hold on for a second. The
163:16 taking over a Hold on for a second. The efforts associated with taking over a
163:17 efforts associated with taking over a county green party
163:19 county green party >> versus a Democratic county party, I
163:21 >> versus a Democratic county party, I would imagine are exactly the same.
163:25 would imagine are exactly the same. >> Maybe. But what if you've got half of
163:28 >> Maybe. But what if you've got half of what if you've got half of their uh
163:31 what if you've got half of their uh uh I don't know their membership rather
163:33 uh I don't know their membership rather than
163:34 than >> you know what I would say what they got.
163:36 >> you know what I would say what they got. >> Try it.
163:37 >> Try it. >> I mean I switched over to the Greens in
163:39 >> I mean I switched over to the Greens in November but
163:41 November but >> and and how's that how's that going? I
163:44 >> and and how's that how's that going? I mean, I haven't ran for office, but
163:47 mean, I haven't ran for office, but >> No, but I mean, in terms of taking over
163:49 >> No, but I mean, in terms of taking over the Green Party apparatus,
163:51 the Green Party apparatus, >> I I think it would have to be more
163:53 >> I I think it would have to be more organized than just a person doing it on
163:55 organized than just a person doing it on the individual level.
163:56 the individual level. >> Well, all right. You I mean, you can do
163:59 >> Well, all right. You I mean, you can do a test.
164:00 a test. >> That's just something I wanted to kick
164:01 >> That's just something I wanted to kick around. I would like I I just kind of
164:02 around. I would like I I just kind of wanted to see what people thought about
164:03 wanted to see what people thought about it.
164:04 it. >> Well, I mean, I I this is what I would
164:06 >> Well, I mean, I I this is what I would do. go on the Discord, see if you can
164:08 do. go on the Discord, see if you can get some people and do a like do proof
164:11 get some people and do a like do proof concept.
164:14 concept. I'm serious. I'm not being I'm not being
164:16 I'm serious. I'm not being I'm not being uh catty about this. I'm saying like,
164:18 uh catty about this. I'm saying like, you know, do it and like
164:19 you know, do it and like >> cuz I think frankly you will find
164:22 >> cuz I think frankly you will find >> that if you go over to the Democratic uh
164:24 >> that if you go over to the Democratic uh uh your your Democratic county, there's
164:26 uh your your Democratic county, there's going to be just a few people there. In
164:28 going to be just a few people there. In fact, many of them are going to probably
164:29 fact, many of them are going to probably be looking to hand it off to somebody as
164:32 be looking to hand it off to somebody as opposed to the Green Party where I I
164:34 opposed to the Green Party where I I feel like um the the the absence of a
164:39 feel like um the the the absence of a stronger institution actually means that
164:41 stronger institution actually means that people are going to try and hold on to
164:43 people are going to try and hold on to uh their position within there.
164:45 uh their position within there. >> They're going to fight tooth and nail
164:46 >> They're going to fight tooth and nail for the little the scraps they got.
164:49 for the little the scraps they got. >> Yeah.
164:50 >> Yeah. Whereas I think the Democratic party
164:52 Whereas I think the Democratic party whereas I think the Democratic county
164:54 whereas I think the Democratic county party around you is like probably like
164:58 party around you is like probably like >> old people who are just like please let
164:59 >> old people who are just like please let somebody else come in and take this over
165:01 somebody else come in and take this over so it doesn't go away.
165:03 so it doesn't go away. >> That that's my guess and I I would
165:05 >> That that's my guess and I I would suggest you explore that and and uh and
165:08 suggest you explore that and and uh and let us know.
165:10 let us know. >> Appreciate that.
165:10 >> Appreciate that. >> I don't know my Yeah. Okay. Do you mind
165:12 >> I don't know my Yeah. Okay. Do you mind if I just say one thing first?
165:14 if I just say one thing first? >> Yes.
165:15 >> Yes. >> All right. Real quick. Uh, I also agree
165:18 >> All right. Real quick. Uh, I also agree that we shouldn't be Jill Stein
165:20 that we shouldn't be Jill Stein shouldn't be on, but I think like maybe
165:22 shouldn't be on, but I think like maybe in 2028
165:24 in 2028 absolute wish casting if they actually
165:26 absolute wish casting if they actually had like a a viable candidate that
165:28 had like a a viable candidate that could, you know, get people excited if
165:31 could, you know, get people excited if not get on the stage. Uh, really what I
165:34 not get on the stage. Uh, really what I was looking for was just something that
165:37 was looking for was just something that could get a a third party enough house
165:40 could get a a third party enough house seats that it's over the margin between
165:44 seats that it's over the margin between uh Democrats and Republicans. Yeah,
165:46 uh Democrats and Republicans. Yeah, that's not going to happen on a national
165:47 that's not going to happen on a national campaign. That's not going to happen on
165:48 campaign. That's not going to happen on a national campaign. House elections are
165:51 a national campaign. House elections are local.
165:52 local. >> So that, you know, the Green Party has
165:55 >> So that, you know, the Green Party has been
165:56 been >> doing this so long and has cannot get
166:00 >> doing this so long and has cannot get that together. But if you think it
166:01 that together. But if you think it can change, I would be all all for it.
166:04 can change, I would be all all for it. But I would definitely go into the
166:05 But I would definitely go into the Discord and check it out.
166:06 Discord and check it out. >> All right.
166:07 >> All right. >> Appreciate the call.
166:08 >> Appreciate the call. >> All right. Appreciate the answer.
166:09 >> All right. Appreciate the answer. >> Right. Right.
166:11 >> Right. Right. Um,
166:17 science political. Folks, that's our call-in portion of the program. Sorry,
166:20 call-in portion of the program. Sorry, that went a little longer and was not as
166:23 that went a little longer and was not as fruitful as I had hoped. With all due
166:25 fruitful as I had hoped. With all due respect, science is
166:27 respect, science is >> emd
166:27 >> emd >> science is political. The Green Party is
166:29 >> science is political. The Green Party is even more worthless than the Democratic
166:30 even more worthless than the Democratic party because they have literally zero
166:32 party because they have literally zero power. DSA taking over the Dems is much
166:34 power. DSA taking over the Dems is much easier and has had a larger base of
166:36 easier and has had a larger base of people who will just vote for them
166:37 people who will just vote for them because of the letter D. Jabri Bisport
166:40 because of the letter D. Jabri Bisport ran as a green got nowhere ran as a
166:42 ran as a green got nowhere ran as a democratic socialist and uh is now uh in
166:45 democratic socialist and uh is now uh in power.
166:52 >> Uh Carl Barks Discord says no thanks Marty. Uh former
166:54 Marty. Uh former >> go to a DSA meeting. These things are
166:56 >> go to a DSA meeting. These things are talked about all the time at DSA and I
166:59 talked about all the time at DSA and I wouldn't just count on like reports from
167:01 wouldn't just count on like reports from the outside of the convention looking in
167:03 the outside of the convention looking in to have them. Go have them with the
167:05 to have them. Go have them with the people who are who you're asking to
167:06 people who are who you're asking to change and become Green Party members.
167:08 change and become Green Party members. >> Left coast the to the caller. There are
167:10 >> Left coast the to the caller. There are caucuses within the DSA that believe in
167:12 caucuses within the DSA that believe in electoral work and even one in
167:14 electoral work and even one in particular that believes in taking over
167:15 particular that believes in taking over political parties. But that caucus is
167:16 political parties. But that caucus is small. To all listeners, you should get
167:18 small. To all listeners, you should get involved with the DSA and learn about
167:19 involved with the DSA and learn about the caucuses. If you believe in change
167:22 the caucuses. If you believe in change uh the change being spoken about.
167:23 uh the change being spoken about. >> Yes. Um,
167:30 the Milrind, I can foresee the DSA taking over the entire Chester County
167:32 taking over the entire Chester County Democratic Party within five years.
167:35 Democratic Party within five years. The DSA is making a hard charge into
167:37 The DSA is making a hard charge into Chester County. I think it's quite
167:38 Chester County. I think it's quite likely Chrissy Hulahan is about to get
167:40 likely Chrissy Hulahan is about to get primary next year from the left. The
167:42 primary next year from the left. The only thing that will make that possible
167:43 only thing that will make that possible is the DSA having been in the county now
167:46 is the DSA having been in the county now for a year incrementally building
167:47 for a year incrementally building infrastructure alongside with Democrats
167:49 infrastructure alongside with Democrats who are tr uh trying too much to act
167:51 who are tr uh trying too much to act like Republicans.
167:53 like Republicans. Uh,
167:55 Uh, I only hear about the Green Party once
167:56 I only hear about the Green Party once every four years. They don't exist. DSA
167:58 every four years. They don't exist. DSA should take over this weekend shell of a
168:00 should take over this weekend shell of a Democratic party. Says science is
168:01 Democratic party. Says science is political. All right, a couple more IMs
168:03 political. All right, a couple more IMs then and we're out of here. I want to go
168:05 then and we're out of here. I want to go short today. Uh, the the Bang. Oh, we
168:08 short today. Uh, the the Bang. Oh, we got a left reckoning. Uh, Theo Bang.
168:10 got a left reckoning. Uh, Theo Bang. Chuck Schumer legacy is failing to keep
168:12 Chuck Schumer legacy is failing to keep the pro is the left pro-Israel his
168:14 the pro is the left pro-Israel his self-stated main goal. Indeed. Three
168:17 self-stated main goal. Indeed. Three more. Uh, Central Spiral. I'm an
168:20 more. Uh, Central Spiral. I'm an indigenous person and yesterday I was
168:22 indigenous person and yesterday I was dogpilled uh po pled by multiple people
168:25 dogpilled uh po pled by multiple people from your Discord server because I
168:27 from your Discord server because I explained to them that colonization is
168:30 explained to them that colonization is still ongoing and that white people
168:31 still ongoing and that white people today are still best understood as
168:34 today are still best understood as colonizers because of their relationship
168:36 colonizers because of their relationship in benefiting from the dispossession of
168:38 in benefiting from the dispossession of indig indigenous people. This
168:40 indig indigenous people. This relationship exists with or without
168:43 relationship exists with or without individual choice. Please weigh in with
168:44 individual choice. Please weigh in with your thoughts on this. I know the term
168:46 your thoughts on this. I know the term is disagreeable, but so is pretending
168:48 is disagreeable, but so is pretending the relationship has somehow been
168:50 the relationship has somehow been altered with time.
168:53 altered with time. I mean, I think I mean, I think that's a
168:56 I mean, I think I mean, I think that's a fair point as a as an academic uh
168:59 fair point as a as an academic uh perspective on this. Um
169:03 perspective on this. Um I think the political realities are such
169:07 I think the political realities are such that
169:08 that the colonization
169:11 the colonization that started
169:14 that started hundreds of years ago in this country
169:17 hundreds of years ago in this country still [clears throat] continues to the
169:18 still [clears throat] continues to the extent that like you know we see it in
169:19 extent that like you know we see it in the context even of our our laws.
169:23 the context even of our our laws. Uh you can go back to uh on indigenous
169:26 Uh you can go back to uh on indigenous people's day we had uh uh we reran that
169:29 people's day we had uh uh we reran that Erico I think it his name was um uh
169:32 Erico I think it his name was um uh interview where he talked about how you
169:34 interview where he talked about how you know the concept of um
169:41 I can't remember the the name of it that that allows essentially uh white
169:44 that allows essentially uh white Christians to uh find a land and
169:47 Christians to uh find a land and discover it even if there's people
169:49 discover it even if there's people living on it um is there but I think as
169:52 living on it um is there but I think as a as a political matter. Um, I think
169:56 a as a political matter. Um, I think it's important to to maintain that
169:59 it's important to to maintain that understanding that
170:01 understanding that this is colonized land,
170:04 this is colonized land, but as a political matter, I'm not sure
170:07 but as a political matter, I'm not sure where you go from that, at least in the
170:10 where you go from that, at least in the context of this country.
170:11 context of this country. >> Yeah, you can have solidarity across
170:12 >> Yeah, you can have solidarity across that barrier.
170:14 that barrier. I mean I think
170:21 um that said like there should be reparative uh policy about things like
170:24 reparative uh policy about things like land back um starting with public lands
170:27 land back um starting with public lands uh to get them out of uh put them back
170:30 uh to get them out of uh put them back into you know under native uh uh
170:33 into you know under native uh uh stewardship. I think it is important, I
170:36 stewardship. I think it is important, I mean, as [clears throat] a starting
170:37 mean, as [clears throat] a starting point though for people to
170:39 point though for people to uh acknowledge
170:42 uh acknowledge that we're a colonial project and that
170:44 that we're a colonial project and that doesn't there's no like day that that
170:46 doesn't there's no like day that that ends.
170:48 ends. Um and uh certain um say fascist
170:52 Um and uh certain um say fascist tendencies within any colonial project
170:54 tendencies within any colonial project couldn't be tapped in uh even uh you
170:57 couldn't be tapped in uh even uh you know 200 years later as opposed to like
170:59 know 200 years later as opposed to like you know as they are we see them active
171:01 you know as they are we see them active in Israel now. I I I think like our
171:04 in Israel now. I I I think like our propensity or the uh uh fuel fascism has
171:08 propensity or the uh uh fuel fascism has here comes from that sort of process.
171:11 here comes from that sort of process. >> I don't think it's fair to say that the
171:13 >> I don't think it's fair to say that the relationship uh doesn't alter with time
171:16 relationship uh doesn't alter with time because it does
171:18 because it does >> because the distance that uh from uh
171:22 >> because the distance that uh from uh people's uh
171:25 people's uh lived experience both as the colonizer
171:28 lived experience both as the colonizer and the colonized uh changes.
171:31 and the colonized uh changes. But I do think having an understanding
171:35 But I do think having an understanding like sort of fundamentally that that is
171:38 like sort of fundamentally that that is the ongoing project is important so that
171:42 the ongoing project is important so that you can then
171:43 you can then have a political program to
171:48 have a political program to I don't think it's possible to reverse
171:50 I don't think it's possible to reverse it at this point. I mean realistically
171:52 it at this point. I mean realistically speaking
171:53 speaking >> uh
171:53 >> uh >> and decolonial like academic stuff I
171:55 >> and decolonial like academic stuff I think gets pretty watered down pretty
171:57 think gets pretty watered down pretty fast. But um I think it's helpful to
172:00 fast. But um I think it's helpful to have that awareness in terms of
172:02 have that awareness in terms of informing
172:07 how you respond to it from a policy perspective.
172:09 perspective. Um
172:16 I also like look people get dog piled everywhere. I don't
172:18 people get dog piled everywhere. I don't think that people should get dog piled
172:19 think that people should get dog piled but you know
172:22 but you know >> it's the internet.
172:23 >> it's the internet. >> Yeah.
172:25 >> Yeah. But your point remains. Uh, left coast
172:28 But your point remains. Uh, left coast to the caller. There are caucuses in the
172:30 to the caller. There are caucuses in the DI. Oh, I already read that. All right,
172:32 DI. Oh, I already read that. All right, three more. Uh, train boy, can I use one
172:36 three more. Uh, train boy, can I use one skin if I don't have foreskin? Thank
172:38 skin if I don't have foreskin? Thank you.
172:40 you. Corporation ate my baby. Negotiate my
172:43 Corporation ate my baby. Negotiate my health care cost. Sure, Trump. Go ahead
172:44 health care cost. Sure, Trump. Go ahead and give me the same cost as vets that
172:46 and give me the same cost as vets that access the VA.
172:49 access the VA. That'd be nice.
172:53 That'd be nice. Except for my lines are really short,
172:56 Except for my lines are really short, but I want you all to have it. Scary
172:58 but I want you all to have it. Scary Mountain Wizard Kid Rock won't play NYC,
173:01 Mountain Wizard Kid Rock won't play NYC, but he will have no issue with coming up
173:02 but he will have no issue with coming up here to Bethl Woods and sharing his
173:04 here to Bethl Woods and sharing his awful music with uh rural New Yorkers.
173:08 awful music with uh rural New Yorkers. Matt, Brian, great job today. Emma,
173:10 Matt, Brian, great job today. Emma, wherever you are, great job, folks. See
173:13 wherever you are, great job, folks. See you tomorrow.
