The discussion revolves around the controversial and increasingly militarized approach to immigration enforcement in the United States, highlighting concerns about civil liberties and the potential for authoritarianism, while also touching upon the political motivations and societal divisions surrounding the issue.
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You don't want militarized people in the
streets just roaming around snatching
people up, many of which turn out to
actually be US citizens that just don't
have their papers on them. Are we really
going to be the the Gestapo? Where's
your papers? Is that what we've come to?
That's a crazy short clip. I want to
Well, at least now I have a longer quote
to control F. Militarized people in the
streets. How about that, huh?
Militarized people in the streets.
Now we know exactly what to look for.
>> And then I can also see the point of
view of the people that say, "Yeah, but
you don't want militarized people in the
streets just roaming around snatching
many or do something because if we
don't, they're going to keep doing it if
they get in office again in 2028 and
it's going to accelerate and you're
you're you're going to have to take away
some of the damage that's been done to a
true democratic system because you've
kind of hijacked
>> begin from the beginning. Begin from the
beginning." And so now they have
something they they they really dislike.
But who brought it upon? My point is the
left brought this. It's not an answer,
but it's an explanation that the left is
bringing this to their cities because
they're refusing to enforce the laws,
right? And they don't want those laws.
They don't like those laws. They think
that once people are here, they should
be able to stay.
>> And you know, this is what my friend
Gads Sad calls suicidal empathy.
>> Yep. And I think my [ __ ] friend who
made up a term the the the people who
used the term suicidal empathy were the
first guys to throw a hissy fit um over
uh uh making fun of Charlie Kirk. By the
way, like these Oh, suicidal empathy is
when you think it's okay to incorporate
and uh uh you know add into the
citizenry millions of people who
diligently work and live their lives in
this country. But uh it's not suicidal
empathy to uh for the sake of civility
politics uh worship this hatemongerer
piece of [ __ ] uh whose absence makes the
world better, you know?
>> And I think there's there's a balance to
be achieved. I just don't know how it
gets done.
>> God, he's so [ __ ] stupid
>> because I I see both perspectives.
>> Whatever happened to the like um those
who uh um would be willing to sacrifice
their freedom for security deserve
neither. Joe Rogan with his big big
brain over here is like, I guess I don't
like secret police marching doortodoor
demanding people snitch on their
neighbors and reveal the ethnicity of
people in their neighborhood. I don't
like the fact that America is turning
into a literal papers please
authoritarian state where you have to
keep your documents on you at all times
and even that's not a guarantee that
you're not going to be brutalized by
these secret police who hide their
faces. H but on the other hand, it's
really really important to me that we
enforce arbitrary immigration laws that
do nothing but disrupt our economy and
our citizenry. You know, it's really
important to me that we follow those
laws. And Rand Paul, principled
libertarian over here, is like, well,
yeah, obviously obviously you need to uh
you need to enforce immigration law. No,
I no I'm I'm very against government
intervention except I do believe in the
militarized police state that is
required to enforce the borders of a
huge contiguous you know like it's it's
very important to me we spend billions
and billions of dollars every year uh
and erode people's civil liberties if it
means getting at those immigrants. I see
the perspective of the people that say,
"Hey, there was an illegal program
moving people in here to get votes,
moving people in here to get
congressional seats, and we've got to change."
change."
>> Hasn't happened
>> that. We've got to take those people
that got in and send them back to where
they came from or do something because
if we don't, they're going to keep doing
it if they get in office again in 2028
and it's going to accelerate. And you're
you're you're going to have to take away
some of the damage that's been done to a
true democratic system because you've
kind of hijacked it.
>> No, complete completely made up. I it's
I don't I don't know how you're supposed
to engage with people like this. The
idea that Democrats were deliberately
shipping in illegal immigrants in an
effort to um win votes when illegal
immigrants can't vote. Vos is right.
Lying should be illegal genuinely. Like
it's there should be some kind of legal
process where the state can be like hey
you know you have made these claims you
need to defend these claims. We like we
do this with slander and liel. We
literally have this process already for
slander and liel. It's just that there's
no process for doing this when it when
it's about like a broader statement
right it has to be directed towards an individual.
individual.
>> They kind of have. And then I can also
see the point of view of the people that
say yeah but you don't want militarized
people in the streets just roaming
around snatching people up. many of
which turn out to actually be US
citizens that just don't have their
papers on them. Are we really going to
be the the Gestapo? Where's your papers?
Is that what we've come to?
>> So, it's it's more complicated than I
think people want to admit. You know,
people want to look at this as a black
and white issue. You know, if you're a
compassionate person or if you're a pragmatic,
pragmatic,
>> on one hand, we have a real issue and on
the other hand, we have a fake issue. uh
obviously the solution is somewhere in
the middle one that allows us to solve both
both
>> person and I don't think that's true I
think it's both I think it's
>> but I think the argument needs to be
made again and again and the left needs
to hear that they have created this
situation by
>> disobeying the immigration laws by
>> ladies and gentlemen American libertarianism
libertarianism
American libertarianism they created
this uh this situation
yeah the Jews made us do
It's not the people who directly like
empowered. I mean, you could say that
the left did this in the sense the
Democrats also funded the [ __ ] out of
ICE. I mean, I'll I'll hold I'm not
owning up to that myself because I think
the Democrats were so so wrong to have
done that. Um, kind of a bipartisan
issue there. Um,
I couldn't watch the Destiny debate with
some Tik Tocker on this. Yeah, because
conservatives are genuinely like beneath
your consideration. um they have to be
bowled over and dominated. They they
can't you can't reason with them. They
are like anti-reason. Um this is not a
subject on which like it's I I think
that it's humiliating as an American. I
think that it's humiliating that even
the most basic obvious rights that are
founding fathers enshrined in in the
constitution are now up for debate by 60
IQ trogodites who think that every
random [ __ ] talking point they hear
on Joe Rogan or from Nick Shirley or
whatever uh like validates this
onslaught against all of the things that
have thus far survived for a quarter
millennia you know like we're we're
talking about a pretty longlasting
democracy here very flawed one. You
know, we're not getting too too too
starry in our eyes over this. America's
always had its issues, but it's not really
really
We're backsliding like crazy, man. Over
nothing with the stupidest [ __ ]
people. With the stupidest [ __ ]
people over and over and over again,
>> by ignoring the deportation orders, by
not reporting people who are committing
crimes. Now, we're not talking about
some guy mowing lawns. We're talking
about somebody who stole a car.
>> We are, in fact, talking about people
mowing lawns. ISIS going after literally
everyone, including American citizens.
>> Somebody who raped somebody. They are in
jail. So this
>> they're in jail. What? Hold on. They're
in jail. I thought the left was ignoring
them. Or by ignoring them, do you mean
that uh local police were prosecu
arresting and prosecuting them for the
crimes they commit? They just weren't
referring their immigration status to
ICE because they weren't asking for it.
Oh, that's a different thing. This isn't
the ordinary working person who's here
illegally. We're talking about the
criminal illegals in our country.
>> Well, I think most people were in favor
of getting rid of gang members,
criminals, murderers, rapists. Most
people are in favor of taking those people.
people.
>> But the thing is is that the left-wing
cities that are sanctuary cities are not
reporting that. That's part of the
reason why ICE is in Minnesota.
>> But they but they're arresting them.
But they're arresting them. That's the
otherwise, how would you even know that
local people, right? Aurora, Colorado,
where Trend Dog was taking over apartment.
apartment.
>> Also, these these people are so full of
[ __ ] man. The idea that they're only
going after criminals when we know for a
fact that the uh Trump administration
has never given a [ __ ] whether or not an
undocumented immigrant has committed
crimes beyond that. We know for a fact
they've not like they're they're so full
of [ __ ] And you have to be so [ __ ]
stupid as a Republican to watch this.
Like my thought watching this would be
like if I was a Republican, my thinking
would be like, isn't it embarrassing
that we have to pretend that our aims
aren't what they actually are? Like
wouldn't it make you feel cuckled to
watch this and go, you know, oh yeah,
man, we only want to get rid of the
criminal illegals and all the other
illegal immigrants are here to stay or
whatever. You don't believe that. Why
are you pretending to believe that? You
want to you want to get rid of all of
them. You want to get rid of you want to
to get rid of legal immigrants, too.
You've they've been very clear about
that. You want to get rid of swats,
millions and millions and millions of illealized
illealized
citizens. They literally tried to end
the naturalization process. You want to
go after everyone
buildings and they were sanctuary city
so that the police literally could do
nothing about it which is just
>> right pure insanity. Y
>> it's a lot of problem.
>> That's that's fake. Um sanctuary cities
has never meant that illegal immigrants
can't be arrested for crimes. It just
means that they don't track or report
immigration status for the people they arrest.
arrest.
>> But we solved at least half of them. I
think we
>> Rand, uh, thank you so much. I've been a
big fan of yours for a long time.
>> The only good thing that I have to say
about this, I guess, like in the long
run politically, is that I think this
kind of heming and hawing fake centrism
has no future. The Trump administration
is not saying we're only going after the
criminals. The Trump administration is
Hal Hitler posting from all their
socials. This is a pathetic attempt to
moderate. It's a it's a uh we want well
Joe Rogan is and always has been a
grifter, right? He wants to hold on to
an audience even after the Trump regime
collapses, you know, when when the Trump
administration like just implodes
completely and um and and a bunch of
those people like they're all left out
to rot basically. Joe Rogan doesn't want
his audience cut down to a third. So, he
understands that he has to like pitch
these criticisms now. But I don't really
think there's a future for this. the
Republican party is going to have a
schism and one half of it's going to go
to that like Tucker Carlson, Nick
Fuentes, we're going to do Nazism right
this time, no more Jewish involvement or
whatever type [ __ ] and the other
half is going to, in my opinion, be
politically disenfranchised effectively
because a lot of these people are too
stupid and lack the political
imagination to get involved outside of
um I guess like the the Trump um you
know like cult of personality like these
people don't really have a vision for
the future of the country, you Imagine
receding to this. Imagine like going
from yeah Christy nome hal Hitler deport
everyone denaturalize every naturalized
US citizen. This should be a whites only
country and then like five months later
because the needle moved on Trump's
popularity you're watching this cuck
[ __ ] and going like yeah I don't
know um uh I mean we have to follow the
laws but maybe we took it too far. I
don't really think there's a future for
this pathetic fake like you know heming
and hawing less than a million views ass
[ __ ] having a senator on. [ __ ]
you. Libertarians are often more
fascistic than self-identified fascists.
>> Here is how podcaster Joe Rogan
described it.
>> You don't want militarized people in the
streets just roaming around sn
>> Hey, I've seen this clip.
>> Snatching people up, many of which turn
out to actually be US citizens. that
just don't have their papers on them.
Are we really going to be the the
Gestapo? Where's your papers? Is that
what we've come to?
>> That has also become a big part of this
so-called enforcement. I mean,
Minneapolis is not a huge
>> Why are we quoting podcasters on the
news? Well, CNN is barely more
legitimate than Joe Rogan is, but you
know, you follow the attention, right?
If people watch Joe Rogan, you have to
talk about Joe Rogan. I don't talk about
Joe Rogan because I find him
interesting. I'll tell you that much.
>> Okay. and they are absorbing thousands
of of federal officers, more than any
other deployment that they've done so
far. And the we are seeing these
encounters where you're seeing federal
officers, maybe ICE agents, maybe border
patrol, walking down the street,
stopping people. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Sometimes because they look Somali.
>> Holy [ __ ] I didn't realize this. The
Homeland Security Twitter account quote
tweeted Laura Jaded and it's like, uh,
we never hired you. And then [ __ ] um
Laura quote tweeted them with the
screenshot of the website or like a
video of them navigating the website
saying like you've been hired
>> or they look brown or whatever it is.
This is according to those people who
were stopped and asking them where are
your papers? Show me your papers. Where
were you born? That's the stuff that
we're seeing and Americans like Joe
Rogan are concerned about it. And I
think part of it is, look,
Joe Rogan's identity does not depend on
um defending Donald Trump and his
administration doing things that are indefensible.
