0:09 today today we're we're
0:12 still focused on individual
0:15 Consciousness uh why you might ask well
0:20 as the site or model for symbolic
0:24 patterning of one sort or another uh uh
0:27 we can speak of the psychogenesis of the
0:30 text or film uh perhaps in the case
0:33 certainly of xek uh to some extent also
0:39 of Doo uh and and therefore we can still
0:41 understand today's readings unlike uh
0:46 Thursday's readings as belonging to the
0:49 psychological emphasis uh in our
0:52 syllabus this is actually our farewell
0:55 to the psychological emphasis and uh it
1:00 is uh so arranged because there are
1:02 intimations in
1:07 today's authors that there are political
1:09 Stakes that is to say in One Way Or
1:12 Another We're to understand their
1:14 argument about the way in which the
1:18 psyche functions as uh as having
1:22 political implications uh zek uh is
1:24 fascinating it seems to me in His
1:26 Brilliant reading of The Crying Game uh
1:29 at the very end of your essay in the
1:31 moment when he said says look this isn't
1:33 just a kind of abdication from
1:37 responsibility for um uh the Irish
1:41 Republican Revolution uh the the soldier
1:45 has not merely walked away uh from his
1:49 role in Revolutionary activity he has
1:52 discovered in his private life that is
1:55 to say in the in in in the erotic
1:58 dimension of his Consciousness the need
2:02 for revolution from within he has
2:05 disrupted his necessarily disrupted his
2:09 own thinking uh in ways equally radical
2:13 to and closely parallel to the
2:15 disruption of thinking that's required
2:19 to understand uh one's relationship with
2:23 the emerging uh stat Republican status
2:27 of Ireland and so says xek there are
2:30 political implications for
2:34 the upheaval in Consciousness that his
2:38 uh ultimately tragic encounter with the
2:42 big other entails uh I should say in
2:45 passing also about gek that um as and
2:47 your editor I think goes into this a
2:50 little bit in the talasz preface uh that
2:53 there are Temptations political
2:57 Temptations entailed in this fascination
3:00 with uh an obscure
3:04 or even perhaps Transcendent object of
3:07 desire for the individual but also for
3:10 the social psyche in religious terms
3:13 there is a perhaps surprising or
3:15 counterintuitive friendliness toward
3:19 religion in Zak's work on the grounds
3:23 that Faith or the struggle for Faith uh
3:26 after all does constitute um an effort
3:29 to enter into some kind of meaningful
3:31 relationship ship with that which one
3:35 desires yet at the same time can't have
3:38 and by the same token and this is where
3:41 uh this is where in certain moments he
3:45 confesses to uh a kind of instability in
3:47 his political thinking even though he is
3:49 by and large on the left and partly
3:52 needs to be understood uh as a disciple
3:56 of Marx nevertheless he recognizes that
4:00 in politics there's a kind of excite but
4:02 also perhaps potential danger in
4:05 fascination with a big idea uh it could
4:09 be of course some form of progressive
4:11 collectivity it could on the other hand
4:13 be the kind of big idea that
4:17 countenances the rise of fascism uh zek
4:21 acknowledges this that the that public
4:26 identification with a kind of uh
4:29 of almost or completely inaccessible
4:33 otherness either as a political idea or
4:37 as a charismatic political leader um Can
4:43 after all uh open up a uh a vertigo of
4:45 dangerous possibilities I use uh the
4:47 word vertico advisedly because I'm going
4:49 to be coming back to Hitch to I'm going
4:52 to be coming back to Hitchcock's vertico
4:55 uh vertigo in just a minute um but in
4:57 the meantime there are also obviously
5:00 political stakes in Del Del of course uh
5:03 presents to us in the F in this first
5:06 chapter of his book a thousand plateau
5:09 uh he presents to us a kind of thought
5:12 experiment both as something recommended
5:14 to the reader see if you can think in
5:17 this new sort of radically RA radically
5:20 Innovative way but also providing a
5:22 model for thinking of this kind in the
5:25 style and organization and composition
5:29 of the chapter itself so as a thought
5:33 experiment uh once again uh Del has to
5:36 do in thought with what you might call a
5:38 revolution from within but the
5:41 implications once again in politics as
5:44 indeed also for xek uh are somewhat
5:48 ambiguous that is to say the romatic
5:51 mode of thinking and we'll come back to
5:54 the romatic uh mode of thinking as we go
5:58 along um with which is radically decentering
5:59 decentering
6:02 uh and which lends itself to
6:05 identification with as it were the mass
6:09 movement of collectivity can plainly be
6:12 uh uh progressively Democratic that is
6:15 to say Democratic Beyond even what are
6:19 social and cultural cultural hierarchies
6:21 accommodate but at the same time or I
6:24 should say it can once again be
6:27 fascistic because because uh the because
6:29 the organization of fascistic culture
6:32 while nevertheless a kind of top down
6:35 arrangement with a fer involves is
6:39 nevertheless as uh the mass is mobilized
6:43 nevertheless in this mobilization up
6:47 romatic Del is careful to point out that
6:50 in the that that there that that romes
6:52 and romatic thinking is as he says
6:56 repeatedly for the best and worst rats
7:00 are romes crab grass is a RIS
7:01 in other words everything which
7:05 organizes itself in this fashion uh is
7:08 romatic much of it as uh I'll be coming
7:11 back to uh try to explain with a little
7:14 more care is for the good in Del's view
7:17 by the way I say delz in the same way I
7:20 said whimet gatari is an important
7:23 colleague and Ally uh they wrote many
7:24 books together including one that I'll
7:27 mention later they also wrote Things
7:31 separately but Del simply because his IR
7:33 is more ample and and people feel
7:35 somehow or another that he's more
7:38 Central to this work um is a is a sticy
7:42 for Del and and gatari and so I'll be
7:45 saying Del but I don't mean to slight
7:49 gatari um in any case uh so so uh we'll
7:53 be we'll be examining um the delizan
7:55 ryome a little bit more closely but in
7:57 the meantime um as to its political
7:59 implications and we are moving moving
8:03 closer to the political uh as we as we
8:05 begin to think about figures of this
8:08 kind uh is really on the admission of
8:11 both of them somewhat ambiguous in other
8:13 words they're introducing new
8:15 possibilities of thought and and and and
8:16 they're very different from each other
8:19 as we'll see uh they're introducing new
8:22 possibilities of thought uh but they're
8:24 candid enough to admit that they don't
8:27 quite know where these possibilities are
8:29 going that you know what what what the
8:32 Imp lications or Consequences of
8:35 successfully entering the thought world
8:38 of either one of them uh might be all
8:42 right so um yes uh they they certainly
8:44 have very different ideas that I I
8:46 wouldn't blame you for saying why on
8:48 Earth are we reading these two texts
8:51 together uh the overlap isn't altogether
8:53 clear I'm going to suggest what it is in
8:56 a minute but in the meantime uh they are
8:59 certainly on about very different things
9:04 Del are concerned with the with as I say
9:06 introducing a kind of thought experiment
9:08 which has to do with the decentering of
9:11 thought getting away from the tree or
9:13 arboresque model of thought we'll have
9:16 more to say about that and uh zek on the
9:20 other hand following laon's distinction
9:24 between uh the object uh ready to hand
9:27 that you can have uh if you want and the
9:30 object of desire which such is the chain
9:32 of signification is perpetually
9:35 something that exceeds our out distances
9:39 our grasp uh in developing this idea uh
9:41 and thinking about what the object
9:44 desire in all of its manifold forms
9:46 might be develops this curious idea
9:49 which is at the center of his thinking
9:52 uh of the blot that that the the element
9:55 in narrative form the element in the way
9:58 in which our storytelling capacities are
10:02 organized which really can't be narrated
10:04 which narrated which really can't lend
10:07 itself to meaning meaning of course
10:10 concrete specific meaning being that
10:13 which can be tied down uh to to an
10:17 accessible object and so uh so the the
10:19 central idea that gek is attempting to
10:24 develop in his essay is this is has to
10:26 do with this notion of the relationship
10:29 between the uh big other and the block
10:32 as we'll see so these these these strike
10:34 one as being extremely different ideas
10:36 and as I say I wouldn't blame you for
10:39 wondering uh just what overlap there can
10:43 be well at the same time I would think
10:47 that as you read these two uh rather the
10:51 the somewhat uh bouncy and frantic pros
10:54 of both of these of both of these texts
10:57 you did see that they had a kind of mood
11:01 or stance or orientation toward the
11:05 critical and theoretical project in
11:08 common they seem in other words uh to be
11:10 of the same moment I mean even though
11:12 their ideas seem to to be so very
11:14 different that basic ideas they're
11:16 trying to get across seem to be so very
11:18 different you could perhaps imagine
11:20 these two texts as being written if it
11:22 was just a question of considering their
11:26 Style by the same person uh I I actually
11:28 I think that's not quite true but at the
11:30 same time these the the the the kind of
11:35 high energy two caffeinated uh feeling
11:38 that you get from the pros uh of both uh
11:40 is is is something that might give you
11:43 pause uh and ask and and make you wonder
11:46 well just soort what what moment um does
11:50 this belong to the answer is important
11:52 and in a way obvious I'm sure um I'm
11:54 sure all of you are ready to tell me
11:57 what moment it belongs to it belongs to postmodernism
11:59 postmodernism
12:02 this these These are these are two
12:05 exemplars of what is by far the most
12:08 slippery um if one likes it one wants to
12:11 say versatile if one doesn't like it one
12:15 wants to say murky Concepts uh to which
12:17 we've been exposed in the last 20 or 30
12:20 years and and and I think that um I
12:22 think that in a way we can bring them
12:24 both uh into Focus as a pair a little
12:28 bit if we pause somewhat simply over the concept
12:29 concept
12:31 postmodernism I mean maybe that's one of
12:33 the things you wanted to learn in taking
12:36 a course like this so so uh I'm I'm just
12:40 providing a service um you know po so so
12:44 so postmodernism what is what is
12:47 postmodernism I think we know what it is
12:51 in artistic expression uh We've uh We've
12:54 encountered enough examples of it uh we
12:56 are we have perhaps even taken courses
12:58 in which in the context of artistic form
13:01 and expression it has come up
13:03 postmodernism and artistic expression
13:05 particularly in the visual arts but I
13:08 think this is this is true of us of of
13:10 certain movements in both narrative and
13:14 poetry as well postmodernism is an
13:17 Eclectic orientation to the Past in a
13:19 certain sense it's a return to the Past
13:22 it's an opening up of textual
13:25 possibility to Traditions uh and
13:28 historical moments of expression which
13:32 modernism had tended to suppose Obsolete
13:34 and to have set aside so that in
13:36 artistic expression as I say
13:42 postmodernism is an Eclectic return to
13:44 possibilities thrown up by the history
13:47 of art uh and literature so that I mean
13:50 in architecture um many examples are
13:52 quite extraordinary and many
13:54 unfortunately are also hideous you know
13:57 that there was a certain point 15 or 20
13:59 years ago when every strip m every
14:03 shopping mall was redecorated or what's
14:05 the word I want renovated every shopping
14:07 mall was renovated and how did they
14:09 renovated uh they'd been flat you know
14:11 they'd been sort of M vandero sort of
14:14 60s modern before then it just sat there
14:17 flat and so The Renovators came along
14:20 and put little gables on on the on the
14:22 shopping mall so that each each little
14:25 shop in the mall now has a Gable you
14:27 know and this is postmodern and the most
14:29 awful things were done with suburban
14:33 houses also also in the name of a of of
14:36 a kind of blind completely completely
14:39 tasteless return to the neoclassical and
14:42 and certain other aspects of tradition
14:46 so the postmodern in what you might call
14:48 Suburban culture has been pretty awful
14:51 uh but at the same time it has entailed
14:53 a great deal of interesting work in
14:55 painting all of a sudden you know the
14:58 New York scene isn't just one school and
15:00 that's the sign of it it's not just a
15:02 certain kind of abstraction it's not
15:06 just a a wholesale uh return agreed on
15:09 by everyone to realism it's a mixture of
15:12 everything uh so that so that every it's
15:15 not just a qu art artists are always
15:17 just completely obsessed with their
15:20 place in art history it's not just so
15:22 groups of artists together wanting to
15:24 identify a certain place for themselves
15:27 in art history it's every artist in a
15:29 kind of anarchic inde dependence from
15:32 the thinking of other artists uh coming
15:34 to terms with art history in his or her
15:38 own way uh so that the scene the art
15:40 scenes of New York and Berlin and Los
15:43 Angeles and so on the scene isn't
15:45 something that you can identify as
15:47 having a certain character anymore it's
15:50 postmodern precisely in that it's gone
15:53 Global it has a million influences and
15:55 sources and there is very little
15:58 agreement among artists about how to
16:00 amalgamate and put these sources
16:03 together so that in terms of artistic
16:05 expression the way in which the the
16:08 postmodern moment after modernism in
16:11 other words the postmodern moment uh
16:13 presents itself and I and I put it
16:15 deliberately as a medical symptoms the
16:17 way that the way the postmodern Mo
16:21 moment presents uh in in artistic
16:24 expression now um
16:27 philosophically philosophically
16:30 postmodernism can be understood about as
16:32 doubt not just about the grounds of
16:35 knowledge or you know the the very the
16:37 widespread sorts of Doubt which which
16:38 we've been talking about more or less
16:41 continuously in this course it can be
16:43 understood as doubt in particular about
16:47 the relationship between or among parts
16:50 and holes in other words can I be
16:55 sure that my leg is part of my body when
16:58 plainly it is at the same time a whole
17:01 with respect to my foot how how is it
17:05 that I know uh in any stable way what a
17:07 part or a hole is to take a more
17:10 interesting example uh this this is in
17:12 vitkin's Phil philosophical
17:14 investigations there is the flag the
17:17 French flag which is called the tricolor
17:20 right now the tricolor is made up of
17:23 three strips of color white blue and red
17:26 I'm sorry if I've gotten the order wrong
17:28 in fact I'm almost positive that I have
17:30 uh um but there are those three strips
17:34 of color existing in relation to each
17:36 other and plainly those three strips of
17:40 color are parts of the flag and they and
17:42 and they have a certain symbolic value
17:45 that is to say each color uh represents
17:48 something uh and enters and enters into
17:50 the symbolic understanding of what the
17:53 flag is but at the same time red white
17:56 and blue sorry yes red white and blue
18:01 aren't confined to this piece of cloth
18:04 the little strips of white red and blue
18:08 are obviously Parts uh of whiteness they
18:11 can't be they can't be understood um as
18:14 Parts simply in and of themselves or
18:16 parts specifically of one thing they're
18:18 parts of other things as well but what's
18:21 more you know if you look at the
18:23 tricolor without knowing what you're
18:26 looking at uh how can you say that it's
18:29 the part of a hole you say well you know
18:32 they're just they're just Parts uh they
18:35 are or they're holes unto themselves
18:37 which somebody happens to have laid uh
18:41 side by side by the same token if uh you
18:44 look at the part of the tricolor which
18:47 is white and you say
18:50 white well obviously with respect to the
18:54 vast universalizing concept
18:58 white a little flag is simply a kind of
19:01 metonymic relationship with that sense
19:05 of white but to but but to concretize
19:06 this idea of the problematic
19:08 relationship between part and whole in a
19:11 different way how can we be why are we
19:16 so confident about what we see as as as
19:19 most of you know I'm sure philosophical
19:21 thinking tends to be tyrannized by
19:25 metaphors of vision we assume that we
19:28 understand reality because um not all
19:30 together together as consciously
19:32 metaphorically in speaking about this as
19:35 perhaps we might be um we say that we
19:39 can see it but how do you see it you see
19:43 it because of the lensing or focusing
19:46 capacities of the eye which exercise a
19:48 certain tyranny over the nature of what
19:50 you see if you look too closely at
19:54 something all you can see is dots if you
19:55 close your if you look at something and
19:59 close your eyes uh that too be becomes a
20:02 kind of vast retinal Mar Toby painting
20:05 and and and you know it has a relation
20:07 to what to what to what you see but is
20:09 at the same time something very
20:12 different so if you get too far away
20:14 from objects they dissolve what you
20:17 thought was an object dissolves into a
20:21 much vaster greater space which uh has
20:24 seems to have another objective nature
20:27 the space that you if you're in a jet
20:29 and you're looking down uh what you're
20:32 seeing certainly looks like it has form
20:34 and structure but the form and structure
20:36 is not at all what you're seeing if
20:39 you're standing on the ground uh looking
20:42 at exactly the same shall we say uh
20:45 square footage uh in so far as you can
20:48 you're simply seeing different things
20:50 and if you recognize what might be
20:53 called The Tyranny of focus in the way
20:55 in which we Orient ourselves to the
20:58 world you can see that this Perpetual
21:02 dis dissolve and refocus constituting
21:05 objects perpetually in new ways and this
21:06 happens too you know in the history of
21:09 science uh the relationship between
21:11 subatomic particles sometimes turns
21:14 itself inside out and the particle that
21:16 you thought was the fundamental unit uh
21:20 turns out in fact to have uh to to to to
21:24 have uh within it a fundamental unit of
21:26 which it is a part and there and I mean
21:29 all of this was uh I'm just I'm just
21:31 referring to what happened during the
21:33 Golden Age of the linear accelerator
21:36 when when uh when all sorts of
21:38 remarkable sort of inversions of what's
21:42 taken to be fundamental um seemed uh to
21:44 be uh made available by the experimental
21:48 data so that in all of these ways uh
21:52 ranging from scientific to uh to simp to
21:55 the most subjectively visual ways of
21:58 understanding the world there are Poss
22:00 possibilities of doubt that can be
22:04 raised about part hole relations what is
22:07 a whole how do we Define a Unity should
22:11 we be preoccupied with the nature of
22:15 reality as a set of unities obviously
22:18 Del is extremely upset about this part
22:19 he doesn't want anything to do with
22:23 unity uh he doesn't he he his whole the
22:25 whole function of his thought uh
22:28 experiment is the decentering of things
22:31 such that one can no longer talk about
22:35 units or holes uh or isolated entities
22:38 it's the being together and merging
22:42 together and flying apart uh and
22:46 reuniting and kesis movement of entities
22:49 if they can even be called entities that
22:53 D is concerned with now another aspect
22:57 of the postmodern is what the postmodern
23:01 philosopher uh uh Jean franois leotar in
23:04 particular has called the inhuman or the
23:07 process of the dehumanization of the
23:09 human now this isn't this this is a
23:11 weird term to choose because it's not at
23:13 all anti-humanistic it's really a new
23:16 way of thinking about the human Del
23:20 you'll notice talks not just here in in
23:22 this in this episode but repeatedly
23:26 throughout his work uh which is why he
23:27 has so little to say about it here
23:29 that's explan
23:32 he talks about organs without bodies
23:34 that might have brought you up short uh
23:38 but what it suggests is that we are as
23:41 Del would put it machinic rather than
23:46 organic uh if the problem with centered
23:48 thought is that it thinks of everything
23:50 as arboreal as a
23:53 tree that problem has to do with the
23:56 fact that a tree is understood in its
23:59 symbolic extensions to have have organs
24:03 the roots are muscles and circulation
24:06 the blossoms are genital in nature the
24:11 crown or canopy of leaves is the mind of
24:14 the tree reaching up to the sky the
24:17 mentality of the tree and by the same
24:20 token if we think of our own bodies as
24:23 arboreal we think of certain parts of
24:26 those bodies as cognitive other parts of
24:29 those bodies as having agents as doing
24:32 things and if that's the case then we
24:36 think of a centered uh uh and and
24:39 ultimately genital or genetic
24:42 understanding of the body as being
24:44 productive Biz wants to understand the
24:48 body as being interactive as being uh
24:50 polymorphous perverse among other things
24:52 he wants he wants to understand it as
24:56 being everywhere and nowhere uh an UNS
24:59 situated body among other bodies and in
25:01 order for this to happen its interface
25:04 with other things has to be without
25:08 agency and also without uh with wi with
25:13 without Co cognitive uh intention uh on
25:15 the model of I think therefore I am the
25:18 world comes into being because I think
25:21 uh without any of this uh in play in
25:23 other words we the de the the
25:26 dehumanization of the postmodern has to
25:29 do not at all with with denying the
25:32 importance of the human but with this
25:35 radical way of rethinking the human
25:39 among other bodies and things plainly
25:42 this emphasis involves a kind of
25:45 dissolving into otherness a continuity
25:48 between subject and object uh in which
25:51 the difference ultimately between what
25:54 what is inside me what is authentic or
25:59 in integral to my being me uh and what's
26:02 outside me become completely permeable
26:05 uh and interchangeable the late 19th
26:09 century uh author and philosopher
26:11 aesthetic philosopher Walter perer in
26:13 the conclusion to a famous book of his
26:15 called the Renaissance had a wonderful
26:18 way of putting this he said we're too
26:20 used to thinking that we're in here and
26:22 everything else is out there and that
26:24 somehow or another our perspective on
26:28 everything out is a kind of of of uh
26:33 saving isolation our enabling our power
26:36 of objectivity but then perer says how
26:38 can this be because we're made up of the
26:41 same things that's out there we too are
26:44 molecular in other words what is in US
26:49 rusts iron and ripens corn there is a
26:53 continuousness between the inside
26:55 feeling we have about ourselves and the
26:59 exteror the exteriority with we are with
27:01 which we are constantly coming in
27:05 contact uh so this is I mean doas and
27:08 Gat of course um have their own um
27:10 excited jumpy way of putting these
27:13 things but it's not really a new idea
27:17 that we exagerate the isolation of
27:20 Consciousness from its surroundings
27:23 there is a there is a
27:27 permeability of inside and outside that
27:30 this kind of romic or decentered
27:33 thinking uh is meant to focus on
27:35 on
27:38 now you could say that what Deliz is
27:42 interested in is if you go back to our
27:44 coordinates that we kept you know when
27:45 we're when we're talking about the
27:48 formalist suur through structuralism
27:50 through deconstruction if you go back to
27:51 those coordinates you could say that
27:55 what Del is interested in uh like so
27:58 many others we''ve read is a rendering
28:01 virtual or possibly even eliminating of
28:03 the vertical axis in other words of that
28:08 Center or head or crown of the tree which
28:09 which
28:12 constitutes everything that unfolds on
28:15 the horizontal axis be it language be it
28:17 the unconscious structured like a
28:19 language be it whatever it might be you
28:23 could say that uh the that that the
28:27 project of deles 2 is the undoing or
28:30 rendering virt virtual of this vertical
28:33 axis well in a way I think that's true
28:36 but then what is the horizontal axis
28:39 that that is where the relation of Del
28:43 to let's say deconstruction becomes uh a
28:45 little problematic and where we can
28:47 actually see a difference I'm going to
28:49 compare him in this one respect with
28:52 laon but I want to hasten to point out
28:54 as I will in a minute uh a Divergence
28:58 from laon as well you remember that in l
29:01 H agency of the letter essay he says you
29:03 know he he doesn't just talk about the
29:06 axis of combination as a series of
29:08 concentric circles each one of which is
29:11 made up of little concentric circles he
29:13 he doesn't just talk about that he also
29:15 talks about the way in which the
29:19 combinatory uh powers of the imaginary
29:21 in language or desire in language take
29:29 staff and the and so that the
29:31 organization of signs in their
29:33 contiguity with each other can be either
29:37 melodic or harmonic uh but in any case
29:40 the you can't just think of the axis of
29:44 combination as a complete linearity it
29:47 has it has dimensionality of different
29:51 kinds well for for and that's why Del
29:54 and G he introduced the concept of
29:57 plateau toward the end of your excerpt
29:58 the book in which which your excerpt
30:01 appears is called a thousand plateaus uh
30:04 and ultimately the concept of plateau is
30:06 even more important to them than the
30:08 concept of ryone when they introduce the
30:11 concept of plateau they're doing exactly
30:14 the same thing they're saying we jump
30:18 from s cluster to S cluster and not all
30:22 s clusters are linear and uniform this
30:24 is where there is perhaps a difference
30:27 from deconstruction delz and gatari are
30:31 interested in multiplicity of coding as
30:33 they put it they're interested in the in
30:36 the way in which um when I think I'm not
30:38 just thinking in language I'm not just
30:41 thinking uh pictorially I'm not just
30:43 thinking musically uh but I am leaping
30:47 around among codes so that uh the actual
30:51 thought process is eclectic in this way
30:53 um now you could say that this is
30:56 something actually anticipated also by
30:59 laon you remember also in the agency
31:03 essay that laon reminds us uh true
31:05 inheritor of Freud which he takes
31:07 himself to be lar reminds us that at the
31:09 beginning of the interpretation of
31:14 Dreams Freud said that the decoding the
31:18 DreamWork is like figuring out the
31:22 puzzle of arus arus being one of those
31:25 uh uh trick sentences which are made up
31:27 not exclusively of words but of the odd
31:31 syllable but then of pictures ihart New
31:36 York ihart New York uh is a Reas uh and
31:38 that and that the DreamWork functions
31:40 constantly in Freud's view as a rer so
31:43 you could say that laon already
31:47 introduces uh for Del the possibility of
31:51 thinking of a multiple coding that needs
31:54 to be decoding uh on a variety of
31:57 decoded on a variety of plateaus if it's
32:01 going to make any sense um
32:05 now Del's relationship with all the
32:08 figures we've been reading is rather
32:11 problematic really um the book preceding
32:14 a thousand Plateau was called anti- edus
32:17 and it is a a continuous systematic
32:21 attack on fro on on the he always calls
32:25 fry the general uh and the the idea that
32:28 um that that that Freud feels that the
32:31 whole of our psychic lives is completely
32:34 saturated and and and dominated by the
32:38 edus complex and delz you know with his
32:40 idea of decentered thinking of R of the
32:43 ryome uh sets out to show in a variety
32:45 of ways how limiting uh and how
32:47 unfortunate for the legacy of
32:51 psychoanalysis this kind of of of of
32:54 focus on a particular issue turns out to
32:58 be this is this is Del's critique of not
33:01 mine and it's and and you would think
33:03 that Del then would be a lot closer to
33:05 laon just for the reasons that I've just
33:09 described but you know Lon too there's a
33:12 at the very bottom of page uh what page
33:16 is it at the very bottom bottom of um uh
33:18 in your text uh [Music]
33:19 [Music]
33:22 034 left on on the right hand column
33:25 very bottom of the page he says it is no
33:28 accident that psycho psycho analysis
33:31 linked its Destiny with
33:33 Linguistics now it's it's impossible to
33:35 say I think quite by Design it's
33:37 impossible to say whether Delo is
33:40 referring to Freud or laon and saying
33:43 that because it's laon who claims that
33:45 Freud said it in other words that the
33:47 interpretation of Dreams is the text in
33:49 which we discover that the unconscious
33:51 is structured like a language um but at
33:57 the same time uh uh posterity has taken
34:00 uh la 's focus on Linguistics to be a
34:03 massive perhaps inappropriate revision
34:06 of Freud uh and uh to be a very
34:08 different matter so uh it's interesting
34:12 that delz quite Ambiguously seems to
34:16 suppose for us that Freud uh and laon
34:18 are part and parcel of each other and
34:21 the reason he can do that is that he is
34:24 interested in uh a form of thinking
34:28 about language which no Linguistics has
34:31 successfully uh accommodated as far as
34:33 he's concerned in other words he he
34:35 keeps talking about chsky uh you know uh
34:38 chsky seems to be in a way the villain
34:41 of your essay uh but but I think in a
34:43 way that's just a way of evading talking
34:45 about soer because you wouldn't want to
34:46 get in trouble with all those
34:50 structuralists uh uh because soer too uh
34:52 the problem with soer too is that there
34:55 is a certain tyranny or arboresque
34:58 tendency in saurian thinking
35:01 uh to be focused on the binary that is
35:03 the relationship between the signified
35:06 and signifier uh as fixed uh as
35:09 inflexible as lacking in what dared I
35:12 would call free play uh and therefore
35:16 too a kind of a a kind of of tyranny so
35:20 very quickly on the ryone how do we know
35:25 a ryone when we see it I think probably
35:28 in the long run whatever frustrations uh
35:32 uh uh the Del's essay puts in your path
35:34 I think probably in the long run you
35:36 you're pretty clear on what a ryome is
35:38 but if but but if there's any lingering
35:42 doubt just think about the flu um you
35:45 there what there is a what Del calls
35:49 romatic flu that's something we get from
35:53 other people the circulation of disease
35:55 as we all come down with it around
35:57 midterm period the circulation of
36:00 disease is romatic it's a perfect
36:03 example of uh to use another to use
36:05 another instance from from Del the
36:07 relationship between the wasp and the
36:11 Orchid the WASP like the like the the
36:14 virus um sort of flits about from
36:18 Blossom to Blossom descends and then
36:21 constitutes the flu and by contrast
36:24 there is hereditary disease that is that
36:27 which is lurking in us uh because we're
36:30 programed for it we're hardwired for it
36:33 uh it is it is genetically in our nature
36:37 and this uh Del Associates with Arbor
36:40 with the arboresque it is uh it comes
36:43 from An Origin it is it is something
36:47 that is a cause within us or a cause
36:50 standing behind us as opposed to
36:52 something coming out of left field uh in
36:56 an arbitrary and unpredictable fashion
36:58 and descending on
37:00 perhaps also not unlike Tano's
37:03 distinction between modification and
37:06 evolution the arbores
37:10 evolves the romatic is modification that
37:14 you know the the the give and take of
37:17 tensions among entities the rats
37:20 tumbling over each other the Maze of the
37:24 burrow the spreading of crab grass all
37:28 of this all of this has a kind of Rand
37:29 Randomness uh
37:32 unpredictability the power of linkage at
37:35 all conceivable points without any with
37:37 W without any
37:40 predictability uh all of this uh is
37:42 entailed in the
37:45 romatic now as to what's being attacked
37:48 and again the value systems surrounding
37:50 these things are not absolute Del is not
37:53 going so far as to say arboresque bad
37:56 romatic good he's coming pretty close to
37:58 it but he acknowled es The Perils as I
38:01 say of the rise of mtic but in the
38:04 meantime just one point in passing
38:06 because I'm running out of time to talk
38:09 about X just one point in passing about
38:11 the arboresque there are actually in the
38:13 first pages of your essay two forms of
38:18 it one is what he calls the root book in
38:21 know the the traditional classical book
38:24 which presents to you a theme I am going
38:27 to write about so and so and I'm going
38:30 to do so systematically uh one thing at
38:33 a time in a series of chapters that's
38:35 the root book but then there's what he
38:39 calls the fical book the uh a book which
38:42 consists of complicated offshoots of
38:45 roots but nevertheless entailing a tap
38:48 rot and this is what he Associates with
38:51 modernism precisely in your text he says
38:54 the fical book is like Joyce's ulses
38:56 everything including the kitchen sink is
38:59 in it it looks as though it were totally
39:02 romatic but it is of course controlled
39:07 by unified by brought into coherence by
39:11 a single uh focusing authorial
39:13 Consciousness so that it is not truly
39:18 romatic it's a fascal book here thousand
39:20 plateaus is going to be a romatic book
39:23 so you have not just two kinds of books
39:26 uh in this idea but three all right then
39:28 very quickly about
39:30 about
39:34 zek I think it can help us understand uh
39:37 laon I I I hope you agree in having read
39:39 it but I think in a way it also takes us
39:43 back or or allows us to revisit uh Peter
39:46 Brooks uh the the uh the best example it
39:50 seems to me of the way in which uh the
39:54 tension of desire in narrative works for
39:57 zek is is although these are splendid
40:00 examples and I think and I think largely
40:02 self-explanatory the best example is
40:05 actually in another book by xek called
40:07 everything you wanted to know about laon
40:11 but were afraid to ask Hitchcock and and
40:13 and and in that book uh of course you
40:17 get a lot of attention paid to vertigo
40:19 and just think about vertigo as an
40:21 instance of the kind of plot J is
40:24 talking about you know there's that I've
40:26 forgotten her name there there's that
40:28 really nice woman you remember the
40:31 painter you know and Jimmy Stewart just
40:33 pays absolutely no attention to her
40:36 she's right there she's available she's
40:38 in love with him oh you know he doesn't
40:41 even see her except as a confidant uh
40:45 you know oh yes you uh I'm so glad
40:48 you're here uh but but he is on the
40:49 other hand
40:53 obsessed with with a woman who whose
40:56 identity he can't even be sure of it's
40:58 not it's not just that she's
41:01 inaccessible for some reason that she's
41:03 that that that she's a distant object of
41:06 Desire her identity and the question of
41:09 whether or not she's being play acted by
41:12 somebody else remains completely unclear
41:15 unclear for many Spectators even as they
41:17 watch the ending of the film completely
41:20 unclear and that is an obscure not just
41:23 a distant but an obscure object of
41:27 desire and of course the premise of her
41:30 in accessibility is what drives the plot
41:32 now I think that the interest that it's
41:33 interesting to think about the
41:36 relationship between the element of
41:41 detour And Delay as xek implies it in
41:43 understanding narrative uh the
41:45 relationship between that and what Peter
41:48 Brooks is talking about Peter Brooks is
41:50 uh is is talking about the way in which
41:53 middles in plots protract themselves
41:56 through uh episodes all of which
42:00 manifest some sort of imbalance or need
42:04 for uh need for further uh uh repetition
42:07 in a new key and much of this had
42:09 because the characteristic plot of the
42:10 kind of fiction Brooks is many thinking
42:12 about is the marriage plot much of this
42:14 has to do with an appropriate object
42:18 Choice which uh indeed um can also in
42:20 many cases Allah what I began by
42:23 mentioning in G uh politic inappropriate
42:25 political object Choice think for
42:28 example about the plot of J as Princess
42:32 casamas in that regard uh uh poor hent
42:35 Robinson strikes out on both counts in
42:38 rather completely parallel ways he he's
42:41 he ends up on the wrong side of politics
42:43 he ends up on the wrong side of Love uh
42:46 and in a way the princess C princess
42:50 Casas is an exploration of these two
42:54 sides of the issue but so in any case uh
42:59 for Brooks the resol ution of the plot
43:03 is a way in which closure can be
43:07 achieved it is the it it it is a final
43:11 moment of equilibrium as one might say
43:16 or quiet or reduction of exitation such
43:19 that the Freudian Death Wish can be
43:22 realized as we know uh in the way we
43:25 want it to be realized as opposed to uh
43:27 our being afflicted by something from
43:31 the outside so so in Brooks whose
43:33 closest ties are to structuralism there
43:36 is a sense there is there is an achieved
43:40 sense of closure which is an important
43:42 aspect of what's admirable in
43:46 fiction xak is more postmodern xak sees
43:49 following laong he sees the object of
43:54 desire as um uh asymptotic as being uh
43:57 ultimately and always inaccessible or if
44:01 it becomes accessible uh as for example
44:02 on page
44:05 1193 in the right hand column or one
44:08 might say almost accessible this gives
44:11 rise to as many problems uh as it seems
44:14 to eliminate bottom right hand column page
44:16 page
44:20 1193 GX says perhaps in courtly love
44:23 itself the long awaited moment of
44:26 highest fulfillment when the lady
44:27 renders G
44:31 Mercy to her servant is not the lady's
44:34 surrender not her consent to the sexual
44:37 act nor some mysterious right of
44:40 initiation but simply a sign of Love on
44:43 the part of the lady the miracle that
44:46 the object answered stretching its hand
44:49 out to the supplicant the object in
44:53 other words has become subject in this
44:55 moment of exchange or mutuality of
44:59 recognition or or becoming human on the
45:03 part of the lady whom uh whom of course
45:05 jjek has been associated with the
45:09 dominatrix uh in a sadistic relationship
45:12 um in this moment of becoming human of offering
45:14 offering
45:17 love the object becom more accessible
45:19 that is to say there is now the
45:22 possibility of some form of mutuality
45:24 but in becoming more
45:29 accessible the energy of Desire is
45:32 threatened with dissolution in other
45:36 words closure in zek is a threat to the
45:39 energy of desire desire is something
45:42 which inheres in our very language
45:46 according to zek and which uh and and
45:50 and which were it to be understood as as
45:52 as as as brought to
45:56 closure the lady you know the the I mean
45:58 Zak gives lots of examples of the lady
46:00 you know after all this sort of seeming
46:03 inaccessibility says sure why not you
46:06 know of course uh and and you know and
46:08 and and the person is and and the person
46:12 is completely upset and then refuses uh
46:14 refuses the act because there's nothing
46:17 more to desire all of a sudden all of a
46:20 sudden the whole structure of that
46:23 energy that drives language that drives
46:25 Consciousness comes tumbling to the
46:28 ground and desire has become need it's
46:32 become sort of merely a matter of uh of
46:34 gratification through what's ready to
46:37 hand uh and no longer a question of
46:39 sustaining a
46:41 dream and this and and and this
46:45 generally speaking is what xek wants to
46:48 focus on in talking about these plots
46:50 the the object of Desire must be not
46:53 just distant but also obscure I'm going
46:56 to make two more points first of all As
46:59 you can no doubt tell this is a perfect
47:03 replica of hun hine's the ambassadors uh
47:07 I mean I I I I'd be I'd be amazed uh if
47:09 anyone in the room hadn't recognized it
47:12 um but there it is there it is um
47:14 there's two guys there's a table between
47:18 them they are negotiating probably over
47:22 one of Henry VII's marriages and this I
47:25 think is not insignificant they are
47:27 there you know in the service of Henry
47:31 VII negotiating one of those extremely
47:34 complicated marriages possibly even the
47:38 one that led to the uh the uh abdication
47:41 uh uh of the Anglican Church from the
47:43 Roman Catholic Church who knows who
47:47 knows but the lore about the painting is
47:50 that it has to do with the negotiation
47:53 of an object of desire and that object
47:54 is absent in other words it's something
47:57 really only implied by the painting
47:59 in the foreground of the painting
48:03 notorious to Art historians there's this
48:07 thing now this is pretty much what's in
48:10 the painting I this is not a replica of
48:12 the two guys standing there but this is
48:14 pretty much what you see when you look
48:17 at the foreground of the painting if you
48:20 look sort of from the side it turns into
48:23 something very much like a skull and
48:24 generally speaking there's a kind of
48:27 consensus among Scholars that it may be
48:32 a uh a weirdly distorted Shadow or
48:34 representation of a skull what a skull
48:37 is doing in the foreground of course
48:39 causes us to wonder as well obviously
48:41 you can have some ideas on the subject
48:44 but it's still um not exactly real as
48:46 painting we're talking about if he
48:49 sticks a skull in the foreground well it
48:50 also has a certain resemblance to other
48:53 things we could mention uh but the r but
48:55 the main point about it is that we don't
48:58 really know what it is
49:00 it is in other words uh something we've
49:02 already become familiar with in thinking
49:07 about Lon it is that signifier that ultimate
49:08 ultimate
49:12 signifier which is the Obscure object of
49:17 Desire called sometimes by laon the phus
49:19 and it seems simply to be there before
49:22 us in this painting now both in the book
49:25 in hitch on Hitchcock where he finds
49:28 something like this in just about every
49:31 film Hitchcock ever made and also in h
49:35 Bin's painting xek calls this the
49:38 blot it's it's it's you know it's we
49:40 have nothing else to call it it's a blot
49:42 what's it doing there it in in fiction
49:45 we would call it irrelevant detail we
49:48 can think of we we can find a way of of
49:51 placing formally absolutely everything
49:53 in fiction the weather what the flowers
49:56 on the table whatever it might be we can
49:58 place formally but there may be
50:01 something in in fiction which is simply
50:04 unaccountable we cannot account for it
50:06 and that's the block that's the block
50:10 for J all right now
50:13 finally undesir and language there's a
50:15 part of x's essay which you may have
50:18 thought of as a digression and he's
50:20 suddenly talking about JL Austin's
50:22 ordinary language philosophy he's
50:24 suddenly talking about the linguist uh
50:27 J's idea of predication
50:31 in both cases what's important
50:35 about in in the one case the element of
50:37 performance in any other in any
50:40 utterance and in the other case the
50:42 dominance of an entire sentence by
50:45 predication what's important in both of
50:48 those elements is that they take over an
50:50 aspect of language of which they were
50:52 only supposed to be a part in other
50:54 words in Austin there are both
50:57 performatives and conaes but in the long
50:59 run the argument of how to do things
51:01 with words suggests that there are only
51:03 performatives I mean I thought this was
51:04 a conative I thought this was just
51:06 straightforward language but I can now
51:08 see an element of performance in it and
51:10 that's the way that's that there's a
51:13 gradual changing of his own mind in
51:16 Austin's book uh which um to which zek
51:19 is sensitive by the same token du talks
51:21 about the way in which the predicate
51:24 element of a subject predicate relation
51:27 has a kind of energy of agency that
51:32 simply uh takes over the grammatical
51:35 subject uh and constitutes a kind of
51:38 performance in the sentence performance
51:42 in both cases meaning desire when I
51:45 promise to do something I also desire to
51:48 fulfill the promise when uh when I when
51:51 I predicate something I'm also evoking a
51:54 desire that that something be the case
51:56 possibly through my own in
51:58 instrumentality this is the argument
52:01 that's what J means by desire in
52:04 language and by the inescapability of
52:06 desire in language and the way in which
52:09 it permeates everything we can say to
52:12 each other and most particularly the way
52:15 in which it permeates the plot or as
52:18 they say in film studies diis of the
52:22 kinds of filmic examples that J gives us
52:26 uh I'd better stop there uh I I hope
52:28 that this somewhat rapid fire survey of
52:30 some key ideas in these texts are
52:32 helpful and I think in the long run
52:35 perhaps I hope mainly that you see these
52:39 two energetic authors as exemplars of
52:42 what we call postmodernism and see the
52:44 relevance of the concept of the
52:47 postmodern to the study of literary Theory