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Horizon Implementation Day: Novelties in the 2026-2027 Horizon Europe work programme (20 Jan 2026)

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This webinar outlines key novelties and implementation details for the Horizon Europe Work Programme 2026-2027, focusing on simplification, application process changes, Marie Skłodowska-Curie Actions (MSCA) updates, and enhanced security measures.

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Good morning. Uh welcome to this

implementation day. Uh a webinar focused

on the novelties in the recently

published war program from the last two

years of Horizon Europe 2026 and 2027.

My name is Isabel Bgara. I am deputy

head of unit of the unit dealing with

the business processes in the European

Commission in the Diretory General for

research and innovation.

Uh today's event is focused on the as I

mentioned on the novelties of the war

program uh 26uh 27 for these two years.

Um and um I would like to clarify one

point because this work program includes

a numerous number of a high number of

simplification of novelties sorry and um

we are not going to present today all of

them. So we are going to focus only on

those uh linked to the implementation.

So those that are horizontal and

applicable to all the clusters and all

parts of the of the war program

uh for other uh noveies in the work

program. We are also organizing

different info days for the different

clusters in Horizon Europe and in the

portal and later on here you will see a

slide with a list of all the events that

have been already planned so far. So

normally every clusters uh organize at

least one info day in which they will

present all changes and novelties in the

work program.

H today in this implementation day we

have three main points to present. Erh

the first one is is focused on the

application process. We have some

novelties here in the application

process uh linked to the uh proposal

template. We have changed the proposal

template. We have reduced the maximum uh

uh number of pages that can be included.

and um and we are also proposing some um

changes in the in the evaluation process

of the two stages call. So we will give

you more details later on. Then we have

a second point linked to the novelties

of the choose euro for science in the

marasakuri actions. We will have two

colleagues working in this part of the

program presenting all the novelties

that we include in the work program. And

finally, we have a short point um in

which we are going to give you

information about the two factor

authentication that will become

mandatory uh to access the portal uh

very soon.

So in terms of organization um

in terms of organization we

we will have questions and answer

sections at the end of each presentation.

presentation.

um these questions. So you can ask these

questions or post your questions via a

slido. And for this we will uh show you

later on the h code to ask to access a

slido and also to uh yeah you have it

here the QR code to to to access this

section of of slido. So I believe the

slido session is is open. you can

already start posting questions. But as

usual, before you do uh or you want to

post a new question, please check

whether a similar question has already

been posted and then instead of uh

entering a new question, just vote uh

because we will answer the questions

later on in order of the most uh voted. [gasps]

[gasps]

So um I am also uh going to give you

some novelties in the war program 26 27

for which we are not focusing very much

on this uh on this session but it will

be interesting for you to to know so to

know um other um novelties that are

happening in the war program 26 27. So

first one is that the war program is

designed to be more strategic, more

focused, uh simpler and accessible. So

we have uh reduced the fragmentation in

the available budget in in in the topics

that we open in this work program.

It includes also a new part called

horizontal activities which groups

horizontal goals and and aims to create

critical maths and avoid duplication of

budget. So in these calls included here

in in the horizontal activities maybe

several clusters are contributing to to

this uh to this goal.

Uh it allocates 50 million to the choose

euro for science initiative to improve

long-term fellowships and post-doal

career stability and this will be one of

the points that we will present today.

It encourages international cooperation

but also imposes restrictions on

participation in certain topics

including those related to to the 5G, 6G

and communication network equipment.

This we will give you uh some more

information later on.

Um it has been simplified in terms of

the length of the war program. So is

sorted is uh we have a war program with

33 33% reduction in length. We have

fewer and more concise topics and um we

have to reduce to the minimum those

topics in which we plan to fund only one project.

project.

Uh we have also increased the number of

topics that includes lamb sums. we have

at least uh

more or less 50% of the horizon Europe

goal budget uh will be allocated to

topics using lamb sums and then uh and

this will be our first point to present

later on it includes simp simplified

proposal forms implying a reduction of

the standard paid limits five by f pages

so with this I think I finish my

introduction here you have the list of

um of info days um that have been

already planned for the different

clusters in the work program 26 27 some

other info days may come in in the

coming weeks and months. So all these

info days uh are published in the

funding and tenders portal under the

event uh menu.

So with this I finish my introduction

and I hand over to the first speaker uh

on the point of for the novelties on the

application process. In this part of the

of the webinar we will include two

presentation by my two colleagues in my

unit plaza and Miguel Ruth Oes. So I

hand over to you Vrice please. Yeah.

>> Thank you very much Isabelle. So it will

be my pleasure to guide you through the

novelties in the application process. As

mentioned, this will cover some

horizontal changes that will apply to

all or nearly all call in the work

program without going specifically into

any changes that may be related to one

call or one cluster. For these, you go

to the info days that have been already

listed in the page before. What are we

going to look at then? First of all, we

will have a look at the update of the

evaluation criterion application forms.

What has changed? What impact does it

has on the templates? Um, we will also

look at the reduction of the overall

moments have been quite hective for our

international cooperation units and

there are more partners countries that

are now eligible for funding under

Horizon Europe. So, let's begin.

Uh, the first part is the update of the

valuation criteria and application form.

What does change? Uh the changes are

mainly linked to criterion two impact uh

mainly for research and innovation

action, innovation action, coordination

and support action and co-und type of

actions. What we changed there is to

remove the mention of the likely scale

and significance of the contribution

from the project. This is no longer part

of the impact evaluation because we felt

uh that it was generating more confusion

and it was not really adding a lot of uh

value to the proposal you've write and

it was not having a significant impact

on the evaluation of the proposal. So

now this is no longer part of it. You do

not longer have to provide information

of it. The updated um criterion for

impact now reads credibility.

It takes into account credibility of the

pathways to achieve the expected

outcomes and impact specified in the

work program and then suitability and

quality of the measures to maximize

expected outcome and impacts as set out

in the dissemination and exploitation

plan including communication activities.

Excellence and implementation criteria

are unchanged. So they will look at

exactly the same aspects as before.

Uh these changes in the criterion are

also reflected in changes in the

application form particularly the

application form part B the impact

section. Uh this uh affects all the

templates where it is applicable and

excluding the European research center

templates, European innovation center

templates and maris ludovska cury

actions as they do have their own

separate criteria and they do have their

own uh dedicated templates.

What changes in section 2.1? Uh you do

not longer have to explain the general

scientific, economic and societal

expected impacts. This is not linked

directly to the change in the criterion.

But this is due to the changes uh more

generally in the how the work program is

written as this um general impacts are

taken into account explicitly in the

topic expected impact. So when

addressing the topic expected impact you

should normally already address them. So

there is no need to duplicate the

information or try to invent something

here. The second change in the

application form part B concerning

impact is related explicitly to the

change in the criteria. So under the

section again 2.1 project pathways

towards impact in this subsection we

have removed part B uh which was asking

for details and implication of the scale

and significant of the project

contribution because this is no longer

part of the evaluation criteria and this

is no longer taken into any account for

your uh evaluation. We now only ask you

to provide quantified estimates when

possible and relevant because it might

be that for your projects that's

relevant or this is something you want

to share with us because it might be for

your specific case that this has an

impact on the evaluation but it is not

um anymore required to all of you. You

can see on the right to give you a bit

of a visual indication

the track changes of the form. So you

can see what used to be and a lot of the

section which has been struck out.

We also ch made some changes in the

application form part B the

implementation even though the criteria

is not changed. So the criteria for

implementation is exactly the same as

before. But we realize that some of the

table we include there for budgetary

reasons for the cost and the justification

justification

are relevant for the projects are

relevant for the grant agreement but are

not as relevant for the evaluation per

se. They did not have an impact on

whether you were evaluated successfully

or not in your proposal. And we also

felt that they were very time consuming

and energy consuming for you as

applicants to compile.

So now they are no longer part of the

application forms is not all the table.

It's just um the table on other cost

categories and in kind contributions 3.1

aing and J for those who are very

technical and experts on our templates

have been removed are no longer part of

the application form. They were before

asking justifications on these cost

categories if you have included them in

your budget why what they were

corresponding to and we have also

amended table 3.1H which is a table on

purchase costs before uh or till 2025 it

used to list

all uh the costs exceeding the 15% of

your personal cost for any participants.

So where travel, equipment, other goods,

works, services or any other costs. Now

we focus exclusively on equipment. So

you will still be asked to provide

justification for any major equipment

cost because that is relevant to the

quality of your proposal and also

possibly impacting on the excellence of

your proposal in general. But we do not

need to know for the application what

are your costs on travel and subsistence.

subsistence.

This does not mean that they are not important.

important.

Um if you have an actual cost call, if

you're applying for an actual cost call

and if you are successful and you're awarded

awarded

um a grant, this table will be required

of you during the grant agreement

preparation as part of the description

of action. So you will have to provide

them. We ask this only for the

successful participant and you will then

have time to prepare them. Uh if you are

applying for a lam uh call where you

have to provide a detailed budget table

according to the lamsum standards you

might have or you might want to provide

indication of these justifications.

Uh and that has to be done in the

command section of the lamsum table

itself. This is because for lam grants

um we ask you a detailed budget table in

advance which is used as a base to

decide to agree on lamsums to be psaid

to you during the project lifetime

without further

uh detail check on your expenditures and

is information is relevant there so it

should be taken into account.

These changes also have an impact on the

page limits for the templates because

there was quite a significant reduction

in the um request for impact but also

for the implementation as these table

were quite uh space consuming in terms

of uh templates real estate.

Uh this means that following the

simplification the page limits for

application part Bs are reduced by five pages.

pages.

The new standard page limits are then 40

pages for actual cost research and

innovation action and innovation action,

45 pages for lam research and innovation

action and innovation actions as you

might need to explain more um about the

implementation of your project to

justify the overall cost that you are

proposing. 25 pages for actual cost

coordination and and support actions. 28

pages for lambsome coordination and

support actions, 65 pages for um horizon

coffins. So horizon coffin, this does

not refer to the Maris Lovska pre coffin

which are another type of action. 40

pages for uh procurement actions.

Specific calls might use different uh

page limits. If that is the case, it

will be specifically mentioned in the

work program and call documents and it

will be specifically marked in the

application form part B template that

you find in the system. Also, as a

general reminder, always use the

templates that you find in the

submission system. You might have

templates lying around because you have

applied to our call before. Do not use

them because they might not be the most

correct one. We also have templates

which are available in the portal as

reference documents. You can have a look

at them to see what you can expect. But

there might be difference between what

you see in the reference documents and

the actual templates in the submission

systems because specific calls might

have specific requirements and we do not

publish any cast all and every custom

template. So always and only use the

forums you find in the submission

system. Also important to note the

changes discussed uh so far on the

update on the criterion 2 and the update

on the templates only apply to calls for

war program 2026 2027.

Calls stemming from previous war program

2025 which are launched or ongoing in

2026 will still use the 2025 templates

and page limits. For example, this is

the case for two-stage calls that were

launched in 2000 for which the first

phase was launched in 2025, but the

second phase is launched in 2026. The

rules for 2025 still apply. You will

already find the correct templates in

the submission system. So there is no

risk of mistakes there. But if you see

in those templates that oh these changes

are not implemented is not a mistake is

because they are correctly using the

other the old template. So this is what

concerns for the the updates and the

criterion and the application form. If

you have question please drop them in

slider. We will uh address them at the

end of this presentation. And I now pass

the floor to my colleague Miguel for

updates and two stage uh calls.

So another novelty uh in the new war

program is regarding the the time to

grant the reduction on the time to grant

in two stage calls. As you may remember,

two stage calls are calls where there is

a first phase where you submit a summary

of your proposal, a short version of

your proposal and only the successful uh

proposals are invited to the second

stage where then you have to submit a

full proposal. H the big difference with

the period work program is that now the

time to to to

grant uh is going to be reduced when

applicable and to achieve this uh the

expected time will be reduced from 17

months to 14 months and to achieve this

I will explain a step by step where this

time can be reduced. In the first step

in the bottom and in the left of this

slide you can see that the the the

call opening of the can be reduced from

three months to two months. Of course

this will be only this is applicable

otherwise if the call opening is at the

same time of the publication of the web

program we will still maintain the 3

months time. Another

possibility to reduce this time is to to

do a faster evaluation in the first

stage process. Uh again when this is

applicable and uh the goal the idea is

to reduce the original three months in

the previous work program uh to less

than three months ideally a minimum of

two months. Then we can also reduce the

interval between stages. Again, when

this is applicable, moving from three

months in the previous war program to

the two months minimum and then we hope

that we can also have in some calls a

faster evaluation of the second stage by

streamlining the internal processes of

this evaluation process. And then if we

take all these measurements uh together

we hope we can have a reduction overall

time reduction of 3 months uh going

achieving 14 months. We we hope this is

we think this is an improvement in the

process. H the quality of the evaluation

will be maintained and uh

this will of course be applicable only

to specific calls and you can find this

information already in the funding and

tenders portal. Back to you. Thank you.

>> Okay. The next steps uh will be

discussing a bit about economic

security. Uh this is not related um to

all course but is important to know

because it might have some implication

depending on where you are applying to.

So what is the background? We do we are

in a economical and geopolitical

conjuncture where we have to pay

attention to what we do and we who we

collaborate with. Arise in Europe as you

know is uh open to the world and we want

to have as many collaboration as

possible but taking into account our own

economic security and making sure that

things are balanced. So considering that

there are persistent imbalances on

innovation related framework conditions

and linked effects there were uh there

was a decision to actually take

advantage of articles 22.6 6 and 22.5 to

restrict access to some of our calls for

specific legal entities mainly legal

entities established in China as we see

uh specific imbalances in our uh

relationship with them in terms of

economy and research and innovation

frameworks. We already add some

restrictions on innovation actions that

remain unchanged. But we have now uh

included further restrictions on

research and innovation actions where

legal entities established in China are

only eligible for a very is a limited

subset of destination in clusters 256

mission widening and the new European

bow house facilities or were explicitly

mentioned in the call documents. in

other calls in other clusters um

entities established in China are not

eligible even for research and

innovation actions. Participation of

entities controlled by China. So that

might be established elsewhere in the

world including in Europe is also

restricted under article 22.5

for innovation actions in critical

technology areas that was was referred

to before for example in 5G 6G or

connectivity networks. In this case it

has to be specifically mentioned in the

call document. So you would see in the

call text that there is a reference to

these innovation actions. So it's

innovation actions only uh being

specifically addressed to critical

technology areas which have been it's a

list of technology areas which has been

define and there is a specific mention

of a restriction under article 22.5

which states that um not only entities

established in China are not eligible

but also entities who are established in

Europe but controlled by Chinese

entities. That also means that for those

call which are uh restricted under

article 22.5 you will be asked to

provide uh some documentation on an

ownership and control declaration where

you provide information on the ownership

patterns of your um applicants in the

project. For example, if it is a

consortium of all the applicants in the

consortium to prove that no uh none of

your applicants none of the applicants

involved in the project as is controlled

by China. You can find further

information on these and what it means

in the general annexes itself or in the

funding and tenders portals. Uh also we

just mentioned this information here as

it is a novelty but this does not

replace nor remove all the other

restrictions that we might have in place

or any other sanctions that we might

have active at this moment or at the

time of your application for specific

participant or countries. Always please

refer to the information on the funding

and tender portals or the latest

novelties and the latest information on

eligibility. And you're always also

welcome to contact us in case of dubs if

you're unsure if one of your partners or

yourself are eligible to apply for a

specific call.

Uh more on the positive. We also have

some uh positive developments on newly

associated counters because as mentioned

Europe is open to the world. We want to

encourage uh researchers to collaborate

and to create networks all around the

globe to solve the challenges that we

are facing. Um and we are happy to

announce and glad to announce newly

associated countries to Europe. Republic

of Korea and Switzerland which are now

fully associated Republic escala is

associated to pillar 2 global challenges

and European industrial competitiveness

and Switzerland which is associated to

the entire program. That means that they

are now eligible for funding. Uh just as

a small note, we app uh we normally

accept barring restrictions any legal

entity in the entire world to apply for

our programs and be part of our

programs. But not everyone is eligible

to receive money. Being associated means

that entities from those countries can

also receive funding. Please note that

for Republican Korea and Switzerland,

the association is valid as from the

budget 2025.

That means that they can now apply for

any of the calls in a 26 27 uh uh work

program uh and request funding and they

can also be introduced via amendments to

already ongoing projects. Even if they

are introduced via amendments to

existing projects, if they implement

budget from year previous uh from 2025.

So for example, projects implementing

2024 budget, they will not be able to

receive funding there because their

eligibility for funding starts from

budget year 2025.

There are also two other tob associated

countries which are currently under a

transitional agreement as some of the as

the doc the process for association has

been kickstarted positively but has not

been fully concluded with all the

signature needed. Those are Egypt which

is um going to be associated to the

entire program from budget 2025

and Japan which will be associated only

to pillar 2 global challenges and

European industrial competitiveness

including institutionalized European

partnership as from budget 2026.

As the association pro process is not

fully concluded for those two countries

they are under a transitional agreement.

That means that you can include them in

your proposal. You can include entities

from Egypt and Japan in your proposals

for the corresponding budget years um

and ask for funding for them. However,

release of funding for those entities

will be conditional on the association

to be completely formalized

by the signature of the grant agreement.

In case this association is not

formalized by the signature of the grant

agreement, it will not be possible to uh

fund entities in these countries. So

this uh concludes our presentation on

these novelties. We are now open for

your questions and we will try our best

to reply and clarify any doubts that you

might have.

Yes. Uh thank you very much ate and

Miguel. And we have now plenty of time

for questions. So we will directly start

with the first one. Uh what about the

impact summary table? Is it still

required? It seems to have been marked

as optional now.

>> So it is not strictly required. It is

indeed optional. So we find it a useful

tool because it gives a nice overview of

what are the impacts and we do encourage

you to use it if you find it relevant.

But if you believe that it is not

relevant for you because you have

already expressed everything very

clearly, you are very welcome to not

include it uh if you so wish.

Yes, thank you. Let's go to the second

one. In case of lump sums, are the cost

justifications required or optional to

include in the detailed uh budget table?

Will it affect the valuation?

>> Um okay. In case of lumpsums, there are

two aspects to be taken into account.

One is whether the uh actual proposal is

um excellent as a positive banket and

implementation. The other one is how

much you will be paid as in lumpsums.

You do not get paid on the actual cost

incurred but on the amounts that has

been defined at proposal stage. Um so

the main impact on the cost

justification is whether um the cost

that you are proposing will be accepted

as is or they will be asked to be

revised during grant agreement preparation.

preparation.

Uh the justification is still mostly

required. So if you have

uh exceeding costs or if you have

particular need for sampling kind

contribution, we do ask you to provide a

justification in the comments. In so far

it is reasonable and is not clearly

explained anywhere else.

Yes. Thank you. Uh so the next one um so

the gender balance is a tie breaker. So,

so meaning that we use it as a criteria

to run the proposal with the same score. [gasps]

[gasps]

Uh will the gender of the whole team be

taken into consideration or only the

gender of the team leaders will be considered

considered

that it is

>> um so the information on the gender

balance when it's used as a tiebreaker

it comes from the researchers table

which is included in part A of the

application forms. uh there what we can

see there is um the leads researcher so

I guess that's what you refer uh with

the term team leaders how you define who

is a lead researchers that's to an

extent up to you um so it might or might

not overlap with any formal hierarchical

title you have in your own organization

is who is the main responsible person

for your organization in this specific project

project

yes maybe I I can add that there an FAQ

on how we define a team leader in the in

the group

in the group of researchers. So you can

check FAQ in the portal and I also would

like to mention that this was already

the case. So this was a change that we

introduced in the work program 2025.

So this is the reason we didn't include

it as a novely here for the work program

26 27 because that was already the case

last year.

Um so I go to the next question. When I

have a large consortion I need more

space in the application form to list

all beneficiaries. Why is the list

counted in the number of pages?

>> So as the application form part B is uh

provided as a PDF file. we have to count

it as well is not uh put it separately.

Uh however, it is one page that is to be

dedicated to the list of all beneficiaries.

beneficiaries.

That means that even if you have three

beneficiaries, you normally would and

should start on the next section on page

two always. So that way is not

discriminating. Is not that if you have

very few beneficiaries, you can then

have almost an extra page is an

advantage. And I believe it is very rare

to have um list of beneficiaries that

exceed one page. And if that is the case

is normally because the call for

proposal is asking for large scale uh

projects and normally that is applicable

to all proposals in the same call. So

you will all have the same let's say

disadvantage of having to invest more

time and more space in the in the form.

If also there are these kind of very

specific calls, it might be the case

that they have specific templates as

well giving you more space. Exactly. For

this reason.

Okay. Thank you. Um so we continue with

the next question. The track changes of

the template is useful. Is it available somewhere?

somewhere?

>> Uh you will have it in the slides. You

can see the image in the slides. We do

not provide it in the reference

documents as we believe that might be

confusing. But you can always uh ask for

a version or if you have it a version of

the previous templates and then you can

yourself compare the two versions and

see what's the difference.

>> Thank you. Next question. Um what is

considered a major equipment?

>> So we normally consider them as major

equipment where their cost is

significant. Again, since this comes

from the table 3.1H, what was there

before is that all costs which were

contributing to costs exceeding 15% of

the personal costs are um to be uh

justifi were to be justified. Now, this

is only valid for major equipment.

Again, if you're just um uh buying some

pipets or anything like that, that will

not be major equipment. But if you are

having a large scale instrument for your

laboratory, for example, that would

count. So is anything that is

significant also in a monetary terms

let's say.

>> Thank you. Um next question is how does

the budget table in the online form part

A change? I don't I'm not sure if I

understand the question but maybe you

can try. So we do change uh the tables

in a part B because we do no longer

require the justification but the

information as still to be provided in

part A as before. So if you have travel

costs or if you have um in kind

contribution other costs they still have

to be included in part A. It's just you

do not need to provide the justification

except in the case of lumpsums. So there

are no changes uh to part A. What you

might notice as a change is that we are

updating the technology with which we

are producing our part A and the web

form. So the look and feel might be

different but the actual content is the same.

same.

Yes, maybe I could like to clarify here

that the well I think you have already

mentioned so what we publish in the

portal are reference templates but the

actual budget table that you will have

to fill in is in the in the tool. So you

have to open the submission tool and

then check there the particular budget

table that you have to fill in. This is

the one that will be applicable to to

your call. Uh it might be a bit

different than the one we publish in the

portal. Yeah.

So we can go to the next question. Um

do the restrictions concerning Chinese

applicants also concern Chinese citizens

working in Europe European entities

which are not controlled by China by

China. Yeah.

>> No the restrictions is at the level of

entities because the applicants to our

program are entities. What we consider

as beneficiary is the legal entity to

where person work. If you are a cit

Chinese citizen, Chinese national who

are wishing to be part of a European

project and you work in an a European

entity or anyhow entity which is not

controlled by China or established by

China, you're very welcome to apply.

Restriction does not apply to you except

if you are by any case involved in any

uh other kind of sanctions.

But that would be a very specific case

and you would normally be aware of it. Um,

Um,

also if you are a Chinese um person who

is working in a European in an entity

based in Europe and controlled by China,

you might be able to apply depending on

the topic because the restriction on

control is only for strategic

technologies. This does not apply to

other uh call documents. But just to be

again repeated and be very clear, our

restrictions are aimed at legal

entities, companies, universities,

research centers are not aimed at

individual people.

Thank you once more. So um we go to the

next question.

Will you be publishing new reviewer

guidance so applicants can also have

access? I think this refers to the

briefing slides for experts which is the

thing that we published for the

evaluators. So maybe Miguel you can say something.

something.

>> Yes, regarding the briefing for experts

they were last updated uh 1 of December.

So yes we we publish guidance uh for

applicants for experts also and they are

regularly updated. they they have been

already updated uh in the last uh the

last month.

>> Thank you. Uh so we go to the next uh

question. Uh regarding revised timeline,

do do you take into account the time

needed to form a strong consortia?

Reducing time there directly impacts

consortium plus proposal quality.

Miguel, you

>> Yes. uh as mentioned during my

presentation uh this simplification or

this reduction in the opening call on

the time of opening of the call is only

uh when applicable this this will be

implemented for cases uh where we it is

considered that this this will be

beneficial and not a burden to to the

applicants. Uh so yes it's everything is

considered when when this measure is taken.

taken.

>> Thank you Miguel. So we continue with

the next uh question.

Uh are we expecting restrictions to US

applicants espec especially in the

cluster health where US applicants are

funded by EU. So

>> yeah at the moment we do not have

restriction on United State

applications. a legal entity to the

United States can uh be part of uh

proposals and can be uh included and as

part of cluster health they might even

be funded by the EU. Um however it's

important to note that we always publish

updates on the list. So in case there

are any changes you are you will see

them in the funding and tenders portal

and they will be also linked to the

specific calls if they are specific to

an individual call or clusters. You

might also want to check at the relevant

info days for the cluster health to see

if there has been any novelties by the

time the cluster health info day happens

>> which is one that has already been

planned already in the list that we

provided. Yeah. Uh so we continue with

the next question. Uh is the

implementation criteria unchanged in

evaluation or not? Your slides are contradictory.

contradictory.

>> The implementation criteria has not been

changed as we still take into account

the same uh aspects which are the

composition of your consortium, the

relevant to different partners and also

whether the different implementation

steps are taken into account

realistically and reasonably. What has

been changed is the information that we

asked specifically in the template. But

that's because this information, the

justification on those costs were not

really taken into account in the

valuation itself. They didn't really

have an impact on whether on the

decision to fund or not fund proposals.

They are important information that are

needed either for lamsums to establish

how much you should be paid or for

actual cost to actually monitor your

expenditure and actually track your

expenditure and to assess the budget

that you are receiving but they do not

um they are not ex relevant to the

evaluation of the merit of your

proposal. So that's why we are removing

them and we are asking them either in

the lamsum table if you have a lansome

um grant or a lamsum call or directly at

grant agreement preparation phase for

actual costs.

Thank you.

So we continue with the next question.

Um does 15% threshold apply not only to

equipment cost equipment cost

justification threshold higher than 15%

of personal cost or is it calculated

from all other costs. So yeah the 15%

threshold uh refers to 15% of the

personal cost declared from that

applicant in the project uh is not

calculated from other cost. So it still

remains there. It will be the same for

equipment cost. It will be the same also

for when at gap you will be asked to

provide uh the additional justifications

on travel and so on and so forth and is

on uh personal costs not on other costs.

Thank you. So we continue with the next

question. For lam sum proposals before

entering the budget on the portal would

you advise using the previously provided

excel seats as a draft? >> Um

>> Um

I'm not completely sure what you mean. I

would I interpret these as if you want

to start preparing it, could you use uh

the reference Excel sheet for example as

an indication and start prefilling that.

If that is helpful for you and makes you

save time, you're very welcome. But

please make sure to always check and

always fill in the actual version and

the submission systems because there

might be difference and do not be

surprised if there are difference. So

you can use a previously provided Excel

file or the ones in the reference

document as a guidance if you want to

prefill it as an Excel but always pay

attention when you transfer the

information because you might they might

not be the same. You might not have

exactly the same categories. Um so

always do it with care and at your own

risk let's say. Yes. Maybe to add that

this question is linked to a pilot that

we have launched this year in which we

are including the detail by the table in

web forms but this is not applicable to

all calls using lamb sams is only a few

of them. Um and uh so you will you will

know whether you have to enter the

detail the cost in the detail by a table

via Excel file or via web forms when you

enter the submission uh tool. Um so it's

a pilot once we finish with this pilot

it will be extended to all land sams

calls but this year we have calls still

using the excel and goals still that

we'll have to use the the web forms is

we are piloting this. Yeah.

>> No no but also make sure to always even

if it's using the excel to use the excel

in the actual submission system because

the previous one might be different. Uh

this is especially if your call or your

project should apply counter

coefficients like for example Maris

Lovska query because those are updated

regularly and they are taken into

account in the latest version of the

Excel table which is the one you find in

the system. If you use an older version

it might still have incorrect or not up

to-ate correction coefficients and the

values you actually see might be wrong.

So that's why I'm saying even if you use

the Excel be mindful of what you're

doing. Okay, thank you. So we continue

with the next uh question. Uh regarding

economic security, could you confirm

whether at the proposal stage all

partners must declare that they are not

established in or controlled uh by China?

China?

>> Um so here it really depends what we are

talking about. The the additional

restrictions on Chinese entities refer

to research and innovation action and

innovation action. So all other type of

actions are not affected unless

specifically stated for some reason in

the call documents. Also most of the

restrictions are on entities established

in China. If that is the case, you do

not have to explicitly declare it

because you when you will be adding your

applicant to the proposal, you will have

to mention where this applicant is

established. That's one of the fields.

And if you mention that this applicant

is established in China, you will see a

warning that no, for these call for

proposals, you will not be able to have

a partner established in China. for

control declership and control

declarations. They are very specific

forms that are only needed in very

specific goals innovation actions on strategic

strategic

uh sectors where we have the control

restriction article 22.5

and yes there all partners will have to

declare they have to fill in the the

form saying that um basically explaining

what is their ownership and control

structure who ultimately owns uh the the

company and that this is not controlled

by China. Um all partners a correction

all um non-public p part partners

because if you are a public national

body we will assume that you are owned

by the country because that's how how it

works with public bodies. So that's for

private uh entities which might have a

complex ownership structure to be able

to identify who is actually owning you

and whether the the final owner or the

major owner and controller of your

company is based

in China or not.

>> Thank you. Um so we continue with the

next question. New stage one proposal

template has no tax but says they must

be left in place. Will a new template be

published fixing this also for topics

open? Uh so this is probably uh um a

mistake on our side if we have left it

there. Uh we will fix it. We will not

replace the template for already open

topic because this will not have an

impact on your proposal. So just uh

ignore it uh ignore that line because if

you do not see any template any tax you

do not uh obviously have to to do

anything on it but thank you very much

for letting us know that's an oversight

on our side when we were updating the templates.

templates.

>> Yeah and just to add that indeed we are

not asking tax in any of the proposals

any longer. Yeah. So I think this is

good news for for all. Yeah. So if we

are overlooking some templates uh and

you have information that tax should be

there just uh just uh do not do it

because they are not longer they are no

longer needed. Yeah.

So we continue with the next uh

question. Can you please be more

generous with the word limit provided

for question and answer so proper and

full questions can be framed.

Uh I don't know what TIA is. So maybe

>> no I'm not sure either.

>> Um I I suppose this is for uh the

portal. Uh I don't know if it is

regarding the portal or slido but um

okay we just take note. Yeah we don't

fully understand the question but we

take note. Yeah. So if you would like to

clarify it will also be great. Yeah. So

we continue with the next question. Euro

HPC joint undertaking that awards

Horizon Europe grants has now asked for

a detailed travel excel after proposal

phase. Isn't this contradictory to these

new simplifications?

>> Uh well I can see why this appears uh

contradictory. Uh however uh please take

into account that specific calls might

have different requirements and might

ask more than what is in the general

annexes for justified reasons. Also

joint undertakings can ask and normally

ask for specific uh templates and

specific information as they have um

they have a bit of a different way of

functioning compared to the main uh war

program. So while this might seem

contradictory to you and it might uh

will be so I am uh sure that there is a

reason this information is being asked.

If you have questions or you would like

clarification on the specific um annex,

please reach out to the EU HPC

colleagues and call coordinators and as

they will be able to provide you all the

information and guidance uh you need and

you they may you may also share with

them your feedback if you believe that

this is not necessary and then you can

see with them whether there is possible

a possibility to to change in the future.

future.

>> Thank you. So we continue with the next

question. In goals where participation

by China is restricted, does this also

mean that beneficiaries are not allowed

to subcontract entities based in China?

Normally [clears throat] that is

correct, but please do refer to the

specific information in the call and to

the extent uh to the extent of

information on the general annexes for

all the clarities and all the precision

for your specific calls.

>> Yeah. And if you are uh if you still

need more information uh please use the

research inquiry system in the portal.

These questions normally comes to us for

business to the our uh sister units

dealing with law the lawyers. So we also

try to reply to all the questions

received through the research inquiry

system in in the portal.

So we continue with the next question. I

don't know why this is not m moving. Um

so we go to the next question which is

in calls where participation no this we

already did. Yeah. Regarding time to

grant reduction would not two months

between step one and step two be too

short for proposal preparation? Miguel.

>> Yeah I understand the question. H as I

said this will be implemented only for

applicable calls. Uh this normally will

happen when uh this this this reduction

is considered not to impact uh for the

proposal preparation. So this will be in

very specific cases and in principle it

shouldn't have a big impact in in the

course design for this.

>> Yes. and and maybe to add here that

this is this is a try from our side to

reduce the overall time to grant into

stages goals and we are just going to

analyze what is the situation for the

goals in which this applies as Miguel

mentioned it does not apply to all goal

published so only to um a few of them um

so it's just a trial from our side this

doesn't mean that we will take this

measure later on for all two stages

called we will just analyze the

situation later on. Yeah.

So next question is could you please

elab no um I'm missing now the next

question uh this we already reply. Uh

next question is what is now expected of

impact section in terms of assessment

after the simplification

does it still count for onethird of the

>> Okay. So um the uh let's say the

relative value the relative importance

of the impact criterion is not changed.

uh how much it count it also depends on

exactly the type of action because the

relative importance of the criteria is

different and also the exact scoring of

the criterion might be different.

Normally we have a pass mark three uh

with a to three out of five with an

overall um 10 out of 15 for being the

passing grade. Obviously depending on

the call and how much interest there is

in the call just being at the passing

rate is not sufficient but anyhow the

change in the impact uh section in terms

of description does not impact its

importance in evaluation. So that would

be completely unchanged.

>> Thank you. So we continue with the next

uh question. Could you please elaborate

on the application and evaluation

process for the new pilot race MSCA

doctoral network call for this? We we

are not the persons that could uh

>> I mean I can have you you can try

>> I mean I can I can give you a bit of a

pointer. So um what this is about we

have a call which is planned for this

May if I'm not mistaken as part of the

noctal network as an add-on to the

doctoral network that is a part of this

riser pilot which is on the network of

AI laboratories in Europe that means

that there will be extra budget

available as part of the doctoral

network to cover specifically two

project compile complying with uh some

um criteria area on AI development and

AI training. If you are interested in

this call, you will have to apply under

the doctoral network call, the normal

MSCA call, but flagging your interest in

being evaluated as part of this riser

pilot and having access to this extra

budget for our evaluation specifically

will be taken into account. We redirect

you to the MSCA info day where they will

be able to provide you all the detailed

information. Also I believe that they

will provide some guidance and

instructions ahead of the opening of the

call which again it should be open in

May if I'm not mistaken.

>> Okay thank you and yes so that best is

that you attend the info day

specifically for the maras close kakuri

actions part of the award program. Yeah.

So, next question. If I am adding Japan

to my consortium,

how should I define this partners

status, beneficiary, associated partner, etc.

etc.

>> This may be a confusion between

associated country and associated

partner. These are different concepts.

So maybe

>> um so as Japan is in the process of

being associated ala under a

transitional agreement, you can add

entities established in Japan to your

consortium as beneficiaries.

However, if the formalities of the are

not uh finalized by the signature of the

grant agreement preparation, the grant

agreement, you might be asked by your

project officer to move them to

associated counters because they will

not be eligible for funding. But as

concerns the proposal, if you're

applying for 2026 um budget goals, so

the ones in 2026 2027 work program, you

can add Japan entities as beneficiaries

because if the formalities for the

association are concluded before grant

signature, they will indeed be eligible

for funding and they will be fully

beneficiary in the project.

>> Yeah, associated partners are totally

different. So maybe if you try to say

something. Yeah.

>> Uh associated partners are partners who

are uh part of your projects but they

will not receive funding. They still

have to respect the obligations of the

projects. They still have to carry out

the work that is defined for them in the

grant agreement but they are funded

through their own sources or other

grants outside of the European Union

scheme. Well, associated countries are

counters which are formally associated

to the program and that are paying into

the program to participate and that can

be receive funding uh from the European Union.

Union.

>> Okay, thank you. Um so let's go to the

next uh question. Uh what is the

difference between subcontracting and

the purchase of services? What is the

ceiling for subcontracting?

Um I can answer the second question. We

don't have ceiling for subcontracting in

in Horizon Europe unless there is a

specific criteria or a specific uh

information in the in the goal

conditions. Uh but about the difference

um maybe we can say something but I

believe it is better because we are not

lawyers here. We are not experts in in

these aspects. So best is that you check

the annotated model grant agreement

published in the portal where you can

find all guidance there or send a

question via the research inquiry

services in in the portal.

So maybe we go to the next question. Um

in the updated uh RIA and IA proposal

template part A3 budget table on page 12

uh mentions IOP and IKA and this now

introduc are these now introduced to all

RIANAS proposal budgets maybe Patric

not introduced we are aware that there

has been a mistake in the parties we are

working to correct it so do disregard

that uh information it should be that

the budget table is not changed. It's

the same as before. We're not fully sure why this mistake was introduced but we

why this mistake was introduced but we are trying to track it down and correct

are trying to track it down and correct it.

it. >> Yeah. So the IOP

>> Yeah. So the IOP um and IKA are concepts that are

um and IKA are concepts that are applicable only to join undertakings. So

applicable only to join undertakings. So this if you are not um answering a call

this if you are not um answering a call from join undertakings you should not

from join undertakings you should not include this cost categories in in your

include this cost categories in in your proposal template but we will try to

proposal template but we will try to solve and correct the template that is

solve and correct the template that is published in the portal. Yeah.

published in the portal. Yeah. So we go to the next question. Should

So we go to the next question. Should the to be associated countries be

the to be associated countries be integrated as beneficiary in the

integrated as beneficiary in the proposal with potential need to get them

proposal with potential need to get them turn to associated partners in agreement

turn to associated partners in agreement if agreement is not finalized by GAP.

if agreement is not finalized by GAP. Yes, that's correct.

Yes, that's correct. >> Yes, that was exactly what was

>> Yes, that was exactly what was mentioning. Yes, you included as

mentioning. Yes, you included as beneficiaries in the proposal and then

beneficiaries in the proposal and then if at the time you need to sign the

if at the time you need to sign the grant agreement the um association is

grant agreement the um association is not yet finalized for this country then

not yet finalized for this country then you will need to modify the proposal or

you will need to modify the proposal or project and change the status from

project and change the status from beneficiary to associated partners. This

beneficiary to associated partners. This exactly what you mentioned. Yeah. So we

exactly what you mentioned. Yeah. So we continue to the next question. Given

continue to the next question. Given that the Excel for lamb sums are to be

that the Excel for lamb sums are to be suppressed and the web forms is only to

suppressed and the web forms is only to be used, will there be a possibility to

be used, will there be a possibility to import from Excel to the web form?

import from Excel to the web form? >> I am not aware of these developments. I

>> I am not aware of these developments. I do not believe so. But I can uh we can

do not believe so. But I can uh we can check with the responsible colleagues.

check with the responsible colleagues. You can also send us this question via

You can also send us this question via the research inquiry services and then

the research inquiry services and then it can be addressed there as I'm not

it can be addressed there as I'm not sure. No, I can add that um this is a

sure. No, I can add that um this is a requirement from our side h but it will

requirement from our side h but it will not come soon. Yeah. So it will take

not come soon. Yeah. So it will take time. So it will not be there certainly

time. So it will not be there certainly I don't think this year and probably

I don't think this year and probably also not next year. Yeah. But we are

also not next year. Yeah. But we are aware that this is an requirement. Yeah.

aware that this is an requirement. Yeah. So we continue to the next question. Um

So we continue to the next question. Um the new time to grant shows only two

the new time to grant shows only two months for preparation of second stages.

months for preparation of second stages. Please do consider that this time is is

Please do consider that this time is is especially problematic for calls with

especially problematic for calls with September deadlines. Miguel,

September deadlines. Miguel, >> yeah, we take note as mentioned this

>> yeah, we take note as mentioned this reduction in times will be applicable

reduction in times will be applicable only in a specific cases and everything

only in a specific cases and everything will be considered. It will not be uh

will be considered. It will not be uh the reduction in time applied in every

the reduction in time applied in every step at once. Probably in one cases it

step at once. Probably in one cases it will apply for the opening of the cold

will apply for the opening of the cold time in the first stage in others to the

time in the first stage in others to the second. Indeed, this is something to to

second. Indeed, this is something to to keep in mind and this will be considered

keep in mind and this will be considered for sure to to have a positive impact

for sure to to have a positive impact and not to to do more difficult the life

and not to to do more difficult the life of applicants.

of applicants. >> Yes, thank you Miguel. So we continue

>> Yes, thank you Miguel. So we continue with the next question in impact section

with the next question in impact section where a scale is not requested

where a scale is not requested quantification of economic impact is

quantification of economic impact is still expected.

still expected. I mean when no exploitation or business

I mean when no exploitation or business plan is asked. Maybe better.

plan is asked. Maybe better. >> First of all, I'd like to clarify that

>> First of all, I'd like to clarify that exploitation plans are normally asked as

exploitation plans are normally asked as part of the proposal unless there is a

part of the proposal unless there is a specific mention that they are not. So

specific mention that they are not. So they should be included and if it's

they should be included and if it's relevant to include their quantification

relevant to include their quantification of economic impacts, yes, you should put

of economic impacts, yes, you should put it there. Um

it there. Um in general for the uh likely scale of

in general for the uh likely scale of your pathways to impact no uh

your pathways to impact no uh quantification of economic impacts are

quantification of economic impacts are not expected unless they are not

not expected unless they are not specifically relevant for your proposal

specifically relevant for your proposal and that's a call that you have to make

and that's a call that you have to make whether this information you have it

whether this information you have it available and it is strictly needed. For

available and it is strictly needed. For example, if you have uh plans for

example, if you have uh plans for commercialization then yes we would

commercialization then yes we would somehow expect to see it. If you do not

somehow expect to see it. If you do not have plans for commercialization that

have plans for commercialization that maybe that is less relevant. So that's

maybe that is less relevant. So that's really on a case by case gate but yes

really on a case by case gate but yes it's not let's say requirement required

it's not let's say requirement required overall. Um it depends on what you are

overall. Um it depends on what you are working on.

working on. Okay thank you says on next one I think

Okay thank you says on next one I think it's a clarification. Your question and

it's a clarification. Your question and answer word limiting the slido is very

answer word limiting the slido is very meager and insufficient to full

meager and insufficient to full questions. Could you be more generous in

questions. Could you be more generous in next rounds of question and answers? We

next rounds of question and answers? We take note and we will try to be more

take note and we will try to be more generous in in the future, but we cannot

generous in in the future, but we cannot change it in in in this for this event.

change it in in in this for this event. Thank you. And we continue with the next

Thank you. And we continue with the next uh question.

uh question. Are there any tutorials available on how

Are there any tutorials available on how to fill in the lam budget either in

to fill in the lam budget either in Excel template or through the web more

Excel template or through the web more web form? I suppose

web form? I suppose >> um you can normally we have some

>> um you can normally we have some guidance document on lamsum what they

guidance document on lamsum what they mean what kind of information you have

mean what kind of information you have to provide and how to fill in the table.

to provide and how to fill in the table. There is also specific guidance on which

There is also specific guidance on which information goes where and how to take

information goes where and how to take it into account. Um you can find this

it into account. Um you can find this guidance documents normally linked in

guidance documents normally linked in the cold page for all uh topics

the cold page for all uh topics requiring lsums. We also have webinars

requiring lsums. We also have webinars like the one today dedicated to

like the one today dedicated to lumpsums. I am not sure. I think we have

lumpsums. I am not sure. I think we have one in the next few weeks, but I'm not

one in the next few weeks, but I'm not quite sure when. But do have a look at

quite sure when. But do have a look at the events uh page on the funding and

the events uh page on the funding and tender portal because they're listed

tender portal because they're listed there. We do have them quite regularly,

there. We do have them quite regularly, so you can always join them and ask all

so you can always join them and ask all the questions you need there. You can

the questions you need there. You can also find the recordings of those events

also find the recordings of those events and also these events once we'll be

and also these events once we'll be finished on our YouTube page. So, you

finished on our YouTube page. So, you can always go there and rewatch.

can always go there and rewatch. >> Okay.

>> Okay. Thank you. So next one is uh following

Thank you. So next one is uh following the EC proposal to suspend the

the EC proposal to suspend the association agreement with Israel due to

association agreement with Israel due to article 2 human rights violation. How

article 2 human rights violation. How does in it impact eligibility

does in it impact eligibility conditions?

conditions? H well um this is an easy proposal. No

H well um this is an easy proposal. No decision has been taken so far. So when

decision has been taken so far. So when if there is a decision and uh to take

if there is a decision and uh to take measures then you will know we will be

measures then you will know we will be we will publish this in the call

we will publish this in the call conditions and in the portal but so far

conditions and in the portal but so far there is no action on this uh agreed.

there is no action on this uh agreed. So maybe we continue with the next

So maybe we continue with the next question. Um, since Japanese entities

question. Um, since Japanese entities can participate in Horizon Europe calls

can participate in Horizon Europe calls starting from 2026,

starting from 2026, does this also apply to Horizon Europe

does this also apply to Horizon Europe calls under specific J undertakings?

calls under specific J undertakings? So, Japanese entities will be associated

So, Japanese entities will be associated to pillar 2. Uh, several of the calls

to pillar 2. Uh, several of the calls from joint undertakings are under pillar

from joint undertakings are under pillar 2. So, if this is the case, then yes,

2. So, if this is the case, then yes, Japanese entities can participate. But

Japanese entities can participate. But please always check what is the your

please always check what is the your horizon your pillar that the call is

horizon your pillar that the call is referring to.

referring to. >> Okay, thank you. So we continue with the

>> Okay, thank you. So we continue with the next one. If it is no longer necessary

next one. If it is no longer necessary to fill out the table for impact

to fill out the table for impact pathways, do you need to keep it in or

pathways, do you need to keep it in or does it does it count towards the total

does it does it count towards the total page number?

page number? >> Uh it's a choice. You can choose whether

>> Uh it's a choice. You can choose whether you want to fill it in or not. If you do

you want to fill it in or not. If you do not fill it in, yes, please disregard

not fill it in, yes, please disregard because having two pages of empty table

because having two pages of empty table or table with template text will not be

or table with template text will not be useful for us and will not be useful for

useful for us and will not be useful for you. And yes, it would count towards the

you. And yes, it would count towards the total page number because we count as a

total page number because we count as a total page number that the length of

total page number that the length of your PDF you are uploading or your

your PDF you are uploading or your document you are uploading and this will

document you are uploading and this will be automatically cut if you exceed 45

be automatically cut if you exceed 45 pages. So do not keep their empty tables

pages. So do not keep their empty tables or tables with template test. If you do

or tables with template test. If you do not need it, feel free to remove the

not need it, feel free to remove the section altogether.

section altogether. >> Thank you. So, next question is um what

>> Thank you. So, next question is um what about the amount of figures that should

about the amount of figures that should be added to the proposal? Most proposals

be added to the proposal? Most proposals end at begin very narrative but uh due

end at begin very narrative but uh due to the template demands of the EC not

to the template demands of the EC not >> we do not have any restrictions on the

>> we do not have any restrictions on the amount of figures. So feel free to add

amount of figures. So feel free to add any figure that is relevant for you or

any figure that is relevant for you or schematic that is relevant for you as

schematic that is relevant for you as long as the page limit is not exceeded.

long as the page limit is not exceeded. That's also why we give the page limit

That's also why we give the page limit as pages and not as a number of

as pages and not as a number of character because you have this for

character because you have this for example 40 pages for actual cost studia.

example 40 pages for actual cost studia. Uh you're free to field them with what

Uh you're free to field them with what is irrelevant. You can also include in

is irrelevant. You can also include in the figure some of the information asked

the figure some of the information asked from in the template if you believe that

from in the template if you believe that they are better portrayed by a figure

they are better portrayed by a figure rather than a narrative description that

rather than a narrative description that will be taken into account.

will be taken into account. Thank you. Next question. Which other

Thank you. Next question. Which other direct cost must be included to

direct cost must be included to calculate the 15% of personal costs? Uh

calculate the 15% of personal costs? Uh other direct costs are not part of the

other direct costs are not part of the personal cost. So personal cost will be

personal cost. So personal cost will be one of your budget categories is exactly

one of your budget categories is exactly the cost that you pay for your stuff for

the cost that you pay for your stuff for personal and that's what you consider uh

personal and that's what you consider uh in case of confusion have a look at the

in case of confusion have a look at the budget tables that we have not the one

budget tables that we have not the one from Rian as we discover that we have a

from Rian as we discover that we have a mistake there but have a look at the

mistake there but have a look at the budget table there you will see that

budget table there you will see that there is a specific column indicating

there is a specific column indicating personal costs and that's what your

personal costs and that's what your reference other direct costs are

reference other direct costs are separate cost categories which is not

separate cost categories which is not taken into account in this calculation

Thank you. So, next question is why are ERC, EIC and MSEA actions excluded from

ERC, EIC and MSEA actions excluded from the updates? Uh because they do have

the updates? Uh because they do have specific criteria and specific uh

specific criteria and specific uh templates that are different or

templates that are different or partially different to the ones used for

partially different to the ones used for the rest of the work program and mainly

the rest of the work program and mainly for pillar 2. So for ERC, EIC and MSCA

for pillar 2. So for ERC, EIC and MSCA you can have a look at their specific

you can have a look at their specific part of their work program or their

part of their work program or their annual work program in case of ERC and

annual work program in case of ERC and EIC and see what the criterias are and

EIC and see what the criterias are and what the templates are.

what the templates are. Thank you. So next question when I am

Thank you. So next question when I am invited as a partner in the funding

invited as a partner in the funding attendance portal I cannot see the topic

attendance portal I cannot see the topic template. Can this be changed? So I can

template. Can this be changed? So I can see the template. I think this is linked

see the template. I think this is linked to the submission tool. Yeah.

to the submission tool. Yeah. >> Uh yes, I'm not fully aware but we can

>> Uh yes, I'm not fully aware but we can uh check this and we will take into

uh check this and we will take into account. Yeah. Okay.

account. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. So next question is um MSCA

Thank you. So next question is um MSCA uh can you mention any updates on the

uh can you mention any updates on the allowances unit cost for um PD and DNS

allowances unit cost for um PD and DNS doctoral networks and PD don't remember

doctoral networks and PD don't remember and similar for um SEO fun I don't know

and similar for um SEO fun I don't know if you can answer this

if you can answer this >> uh no for this we will redirect you

>> uh no for this we will redirect you kindly to the specific Maris Lovska cury

kindly to the specific Maris Lovska cury info uh sessions Yeah.

info uh sessions Yeah. So, but there is indeed an update of

So, but there is indeed an update of allowances. This we know. Yeah. So,

allowances. This we know. Yeah. So, there is an update. So, but yeah, better

there is an update. So, but yeah, better we are not uh mastering this subject.

we are not uh mastering this subject. So, maybe better you check with with the

So, maybe better you check with with the person that knows better. Yeah.

person that knows better. Yeah. Um, next question is, does the EC have a

Um, next question is, does the EC have a preference for figures or text in

preference for figures or text in proposals? In other words, would nice

proposals? In other words, would nice looking figures impact proposal

looking figures impact proposal evaluation?

evaluation? One just one comment from my side. H we

One just one comment from my side. H we in the EC do not evaluate the proposal.

in the EC do not evaluate the proposal. All evaluation is done by external

All evaluation is done by external experts. So maybe the question is not

experts. So maybe the question is not for us but for the external expert but

for us but for the external expert but you will have.

you will have. >> So indeed uh the evaluations of your

>> So indeed uh the evaluations of your proposal is always done by external

proposal is always done by external experts. Uh by the way if you are

experts. Uh by the way if you are interested in evaluating any of our

interested in evaluating any of our proposals we have a call for experts

proposals we have a call for experts open and the portal is always open.

open and the portal is always open. You're very welcome to register your

You're very welcome to register your profile we look for people with all kind

profile we look for people with all kind of expertise from all path in life. So

of expertise from all path in life. So have a look there. So it would be the

have a look there. So it would be the expert actually evaluating the merit of

expert actually evaluating the merit of your proposals because while we have a

your proposals because while we have a lot of good qualities, we are not

lot of good qualities, we are not experts in all uh specific uh fields

experts in all uh specific uh fields that we fund. Uh in general there is no

that we fund. Uh in general there is no specific preferences for either figures

specific preferences for either figures or text. It also depends on your

or text. It also depends on your proposal, your style, what the call is

proposal, your style, what the call is asking for. Whatever makes more sense

asking for. Whatever makes more sense for you and it respects the criteria in

for you and it respects the criteria in our templates, feel free to use it. Uh,

our templates, feel free to use it. Uh, in general, just making cosmetic changes

in general, just making cosmetic changes normally is not um giving you additional

normally is not um giving you additional points. Obviously the text should be

points. Obviously the text should be readable, well presented, follow a

readable, well presented, follow a logical and cohesive uh structure

logical and cohesive uh structure because you have humans on the other

because you have humans on the other side who will read your proposals and

side who will read your proposals and need to understand it. But I would say

need to understand it. But I would say do not waste time on changes which are

do not waste time on changes which are purely cosmetic. They have to be

purely cosmetic. They have to be functional. If you have nicel lookinging

functional. If you have nicel lookinging figures in the sense that they are nice

figures in the sense that they are nice schematic that enables our experts to

schematic that enables our experts to grasp and capture what you are saying

grasp and capture what you are saying easily and better and summarize well the

easily and better and summarize well the points feel free to include them. We

points feel free to include them. We really appreciate them. Experts often

really appreciate them. Experts often appreciate them. If it is just to say oh

appreciate them. If it is just to say oh look here we have a nice colorful graph

look here we have a nice colorful graph that would be a waste of your space but

that would be a waste of your space but your proposal you know what's best for

your proposal you know what's best for you to put there and you know how best

you to put there and you know how best to explain us uh what you want to do but

to explain us uh what you want to do but no uh prettiness is not a criteria.

no uh prettiness is not a criteria. >> Thank you. So next uh question uh where

>> Thank you. So next uh question uh where in part B do you justify love in

in part B do you justify love in infrastructure requesting cost as

infrastructure requesting cost as internally invoiced goods and services?

internally invoiced goods and services? Can you answer that?

Can you answer that? >> Uh not on the top of my head.

>> Uh not on the top of my head. >> No. Um I think it's best that you send

>> No. Um I think it's best that you send this question to the research inquiry

this question to the research inquiry system and probably our lawyer

system and probably our lawyer colleagues will reply to this uh

colleagues will reply to this uh question. Yeah.

question. Yeah. So um next one is will the currently

So um next one is will the currently associated countries automatically be

associated countries automatically be associated under FP10? I think no.

associated under FP10? I think no. >> No. Uh the association process is uh

>> No. Uh the association process is uh program by program. We do expect

program by program. We do expect countries that are associated under

countries that are associated under arizon Europe to be interested to be

arizon Europe to be interested to be associated under FP10. Uh but that's a

associated under FP10. Uh but that's a discussion that has not yet happened. So

discussion that has not yet happened. So let's see what the future bring us. But

let's see what the future bring us. But no, they cannot be expected to be

no, they cannot be expected to be automatically associated.

automatically associated. Thank you. So, next question. Uh, can

Thank you. So, next question. Uh, can you confirm that the budget will need to

you confirm that the budget will need to be filled directly in the portal for

be filled directly in the portal for lambs and not using the Excel file? Will

lambs and not using the Excel file? Will there not be an Excel file anymore? Uh,

there not be an Excel file anymore? Uh, that's a long-term development. So, in

that's a long-term development. So, in the long term, yes, that's correct. But

the long term, yes, that's correct. But for now, so for the calls open now and

for now, so for the calls open now and for the reasonable future, we will still

for the reasonable future, we will still use the Excel file. The roll out of u

use the Excel file. The roll out of u let's say web form lamsum tables will

let's say web form lamsum tables will happen progressively over the course of

happen progressively over the course of this year and possibly also next year.

this year and possibly also next year. Uh you will see it in the call documents

Uh you will see it in the call documents as well because if we include the Excel

as well because if we include the Excel file the Excel file will be listed as a

file the Excel file will be listed as a listed as a reference template if it

listed as a reference template if it will be moved to web form you will not

will be moved to web form you will not see the Excel file listed in the

see the Excel file listed in the reference documents.

reference documents. uh but yeah as said this is a let's say

uh but yeah as said this is a let's say medium to long-term development it will

medium to long-term development it will not impact all the calls here I think

not impact all the calls here I think there are very few calls under pilot at

there are very few calls under pilot at the moment yeah but whether we will keep

the moment yeah but whether we will keep the SL file as a template in published

the SL file as a template in published in the portal to help participants is

in the portal to help participants is something that probably we will still

something that probably we will still need to discuss and and and decide at a

need to discuss and and and decide at a later at a later stage yeah

later at a later stage yeah so we continue running over time.

so we continue running over time. >> Okay, so we have five more minutes,

>> Okay, so we have five more minutes, right? No, two two more minutes. Yeah.

right? No, two two more minutes. Yeah. So, let's go to the last two questions

So, let's go to the last two questions and then we we change to the next point.

and then we we change to the next point. Um, could you explain which partners

Um, could you explain which partners need to sign the ownership uh control

need to sign the ownership uh control declaration?

declaration? That would be normally private partners

That would be normally private partners in specific innovation actions asking

in specific innovation actions asking triggering the article 22.5

triggering the article 22.5 or any other call asking article 22.5

or any other call asking article 22.5 because this can be unrelated to China

because this can be unrelated to China restriction. It can be applied in

restriction. It can be applied in different cases and then all private uh

different cases and then all private uh partners have will have to sign this and

partners have will have to sign this and provide information on their ownership

provide information on their ownership and control structure.

and control structure. >> Thank you. And then we go to the last

>> Thank you. And then we go to the last question because we are running out of

question because we are running out of time. So uh last question for some lambs

time. So uh last question for some lambs topics it seems that changes to part A

topics it seems that changes to part A implied that data must be added using

implied that data must be added using the form with no option to upload the SL

the form with no option to upload the SL file. Is this correct? Uh that's a

file. Is this correct? Uh that's a long-term development that the

long-term development that the information will be provided in the form

information will be provided in the form is not yet the case. Also as mentioned

is not yet the case. Also as mentioned by usability it is one of the

by usability it is one of the requirement that we have in mind and we

requirement that we have in mind and we will try to see how to implement it that

will try to see how to implement it that information can be uploaded from an

information can be uploaded from an excel

excel file to the web form but that's still to

file to the web form but that's still to come most of the calls opening this year

come most of the calls opening this year will still have the excel table for the

will still have the excel table for the lumson part but for some of them for a

lumson part but for some of them for a few of them we are testing the web forms

few of them we are testing the web forms and for those you will not be able to

and for those you will not be able to upload the cell file. This is this is

upload the cell file. This is this is the the answer. Okay. So, thank you very

the the answer. Okay. So, thank you very much. I think we can close this point.

much. I think we can close this point. It was many questions. I I hope we were

It was many questions. I I hope we were able to answer at least most of them and

able to answer at least most of them and um we continue to the next uh point in

um we continue to the next uh point in this info day. So we are just welcoming

this info day. So we are just welcoming the new two speakers that will um

the new two speakers that will um will give you information about the new

will give you information about the new initiative on Marius Kakuri actions the

initiative on Marius Kakuri actions the choose euro for science in 2027 and I

choose euro for science in 2027 and I have with me um Daniela Radu from the

have with me um Daniela Radu from the research executive agency. Hello.

research executive agency. Hello. >> And analyt from the

>> And analyt from the European Commission, the directorate

European Commission, the directorate general on education, youth, sport and

general on education, youth, sport and culture. So yeah, welcome and please the

culture. So yeah, welcome and please the floor is yours. Yeah,

floor is yours. Yeah, >> thank you. Thank you so much for the

>> thank you. Thank you so much for the invitation for letting us come and uh

invitation for letting us come and uh give a little bit more information about

give a little bit more information about the the next choose Europe for science

the the next choose Europe for science call under MSEA. Um so I'll jump right

call under MSEA. Um so I'll jump right into it. some of the information that

into it. some of the information that we'll give will be a bit more um a

we'll give will be a bit more um a repeat I guess of the information from

repeat I guess of the information from 2025 but there are some some new bits in

2025 but there are some some new bits in there so it's it's good to just have a

there so it's it's good to just have a look and and see what the differences

look and and see what the differences are and at the end we give a handy

are and at the end we give a handy overview so it it won't be uh it'll be

overview so it it won't be uh it'll be very clear

very clear so what is MSA choose for science it's a

so what is MSA choose for science it's a mono beneficiary action where um the

mono beneficiary action where um the beneficiary is recruiting and training

beneficiary is recruiting and training uh or the beneficiaries in this case and

uh or the beneficiaries in this case and I'll explain that a little bit

I'll explain that a little bit is recruiting and training researchers

is recruiting and training researchers at post-doal level with a vision to

at post-doal level with a vision to employment beyond the project period. So

employment beyond the project period. So we call this a long-term career

we call this a long-term career prospect. Um tackling procarity in

prospect. Um tackling procarity in research careers is kind of a bit of a

research careers is kind of a bit of a new focus in this action. Um but there's

new focus in this action. Um but there's also of course the MSEA main stays which

also of course the MSEA main stays which is spreading best practice, promoting

is spreading best practice, promoting high standards, excellent working

high standards, excellent working conditions and of course sustainable

conditions and of course sustainable structuring effects and then excellent

structuring effects and then excellent research which uh isn't on the slide but

research which uh isn't on the slide but is is a hopefully a given.

is is a hopefully a given. uh for whom? So here we already have our

uh for whom? So here we already have our first change from the 2025 call. Um

first change from the 2025 call. Um because of course we have the

because of course we have the beneficiary um which is the institution

beneficiary um which is the institution applying for uh MSE choose Europe for

applying for uh MSE choose Europe for science. So it's it's not an individual

science. So it's it's not an individual applying it's an institution and that's

applying it's an institution and that's a single legal entity established in an

a single legal entity established in an EU member state or a Horizon Europe

EU member state or a Horizon Europe associated country that's associated

associated country that's associated specifically to MSEA

specifically to MSEA and they can recruit and host

and they can recruit and host researchers. But there's also other

researchers. But there's also other entities that can recruit and host

entities that can recruit and host researchers. And this is different in

researchers. And this is different in the 2027 call because now we also have

the 2027 call because now we also have implementing partners and those are also

implementing partners and those are also these legal entities that are

these legal entities that are established in EU member states or

established in EU member states or Horizon Europe associated countries and

Horizon Europe associated countries and they can also recruit and host

they can also recruit and host researchers. So it's not only the

researchers. So it's not only the beneficiary um that can do so. And then

beneficiary um that can do so. And then of course we also have associated

of course we also have associated partners which are not recruiting and

partners which are not recruiting and hosting researchers but they are doing

hosting researchers but they are doing various other things that are very

various other things that are very important to an MSEA project.

important to an MSEA project. networking, training, hosting

networking, training, hosting seconments, providing resources. Um, so

seconments, providing resources. Um, so there's there's a wide variety of

there's there's a wide variety of institutions that can participate and

institutions that can participate and there's also no uh limitations in terms

there's also no uh limitations in terms of sector. So as long as they're

of sector. So as long as they're performing research, um, they can apply.

performing research, um, they can apply. It doesn't just have to be universities

It doesn't just have to be universities because this is a question we sometimes

because this is a question we sometimes get.

get. Um, so it is a 2027 call, but the call

Um, so it is a 2027 call, but the call opens in late 2026. So the call will is

opens in late 2026. So the call will is scheduled to open on the 8th of December

scheduled to open on the 8th of December and to close on the 6th of April in

and to close on the 6th of April in 2027. So parallel with the MSEA co-und

2027. So parallel with the MSEA co-und um 2027 call. And here there's also

um 2027 call. And here there's also another change because the maximum uh

another change because the maximum uh amount that a beneficiary can receive

amount that a beneficiary can receive has gone up to 5 uh million euro. And

has gone up to 5 uh million euro. And the total budget is also quite a bit

the total budget is also quite a bit bigger than the 2025 call. It's it's

bigger than the 2025 call. It's it's more than double. It's uh 51.25. uh it

more than double. It's uh 51.25. uh it should be million euros not just euros

should be million euros not just euros because that would be sad. Um the

because that would be sad. Um the maximum duration of the program is uh 72

maximum duration of the program is uh 72 months because we expect that

months because we expect that institutions will need um maybe about a

institutions will need um maybe about a year to to recruit the fellows. But the

year to to recruit the fellows. But the fellowships themselves can either be so

fellowships themselves can either be so this is not a a span it's one or the

this is not a a span it's one or the other 48 or 60 months. And we'll give a

other 48 or 60 months. And we'll give a bit more information about how that's

bit more information about how that's divided later. And as I said this is not

divided later. And as I said this is not an individual um fellowship. There's a

an individual um fellowship. There's a minimum of three fellows that have to be

minimum of three fellows that have to be recruited per choose Europe for science

recruited per choose Europe for science um project which is also in line with

um project which is also in line with the 2025 requirements.

the 2025 requirements. Uh eligible researchers I mentioned this

Uh eligible researchers I mentioned this is a call for postdoctoral researchers.

is a call for postdoctoral researchers. Um and that means that they actually you

Um and that means that they actually you know have their their doctorate by the

know have their their doctorate by the vacancy um call deadline. So that's the

vacancy um call deadline. So that's the the deadline of the call that the

the deadline of the call that the institution recruiting them um actually

institution recruiting them um actually has. So it's it's not ours. um they

has. So it's it's not ours. um they can't be permanently employed by the

can't be permanently employed by the beneficiary and they can be of any

beneficiary and they can be of any nationality. So we really don't want

nationality. So we really don't want restrictions in that but they do have to

restrictions in that but they do have to um adhere to the MSEA mobility rule

um adhere to the MSEA mobility rule which is that in the past uh 36 months

which is that in the past uh 36 months they cannot have spent more than 12

they cannot have spent more than 12 months um in the you know the host

months um in the you know the host country or employed by the host

country or employed by the host institution.

institution. The award criteria uh here again the

The award criteria uh here again the award criteria are actually the same as

award criteria are actually the same as in the last call but there is a

in the last call but there is a difference and we've put it in yellow at

difference and we've put it in yellow at the bottom which is that the threshold

the bottom which is that the threshold for all criteria so excellence impact

for all criteria so excellence impact implementation these three has to be

implementation these three has to be three. So in the previous call it was

three. So in the previous call it was only for excellence but now it's it's

only for excellence but now it's it's all of them and this is uh in line with

all of them and this is uh in line with uh the overall kind of changes to the

uh the overall kind of changes to the MSDA

MSDA and I'll go through in a little bit more

and I'll go through in a little bit more depth the criteria again those of you

depth the criteria again those of you who are familiar with the 2025 call will

who are familiar with the 2025 call will already know this um but for those who

already know this um but for those who aren't it might be useful to just get a

aren't it might be useful to just get a bit more information um so the first

bit more information um so the first criterion is about the quality of the

criterion is about the quality of the selection uh and recruitment processes

selection uh and recruitment processes for the researchers. So they have to be

for the researchers. So they have to be in line with the European charter um for

in line with the European charter um for research. [clears throat] They have to

research. [clears throat] They have to be open, transparent, merit-based.

be open, transparent, merit-based. There's also the quality and

There's also the quality and attractiveness of the appointment

attractiveness of the appointment conditions and this includes um things

conditions and this includes um things like the uh you know the the the working

like the uh you know the the the working conditions can be things like leaves.

conditions can be things like leaves. They can be uh salary is of course a big

They can be uh salary is of course a big one and we'll explain that a little more

one and we'll explain that a little more later because there is a phase where um

later because there is a phase where um part of the this assessment is also how

part of the this assessment is also how attractive the conditions are in the

attractive the conditions are in the phase that's funded by the beneficiary

phase that's funded by the beneficiary which is in the context of you know what

which is in the context of you know what salaries are within their country. So

salaries are within their country. So that's a really important one the

that's a really important one the appointment conditions being really

appointment conditions being really excellent. Um and then also the quality

excellent. Um and then also the quality and attractiveness of the long-term

and attractiveness of the long-term career prospects. So again, I said in

career prospects. So again, I said in the beginning that's kind of the the

the beginning that's kind of the the novelty and the focus of uh Choose

novelty and the focus of uh Choose Europe for Science is that we we do

Europe for Science is that we we do focus on these long-term career

focus on these long-term career prospects that an institution uh would

prospects that an institution uh would be able to offer. Um we we've had

be able to offer. Um we we've had questions about this as well. Maybe we

questions about this as well. Maybe we might have it uh later, but there's

might have it uh later, but there's there's a lot of variety in what

there's a lot of variety in what institutions can offer. Um this can be

institutions can offer. Um this can be because of limitations at an

because of limitations at an institutional level, at a at a national

institutional level, at a at a national level. Um they might be offering

level. Um they might be offering something tenure track, they might be

something tenure track, they might be offering an open contract. So there's

offering an open contract. So there's there's no one specific um way to do

there's no one specific um way to do this but it is really assessed within

this but it is really assessed within the context um that that institution is

the context um that that institution is is providing and explaining.

is providing and explaining. And then finally um the quality and

And then finally um the quality and ambition of the research innovation and

ambition of the research innovation and or academic objectives of the

or academic objectives of the recruitment program. So showing that the

recruitment program. So showing that the the institutions uh that are recruiting

the institutions uh that are recruiting are excellent in whatever field that

are excellent in whatever field that they're trying to attract researchers

they're trying to attract researchers in. And also if there's kind of a wider

in. And also if there's kind of a wider objective that they're that they're

objective that they're that they're trying to address a challenge um that

trying to address a challenge um that the researchers with their own projects

the researchers with their own projects um are going to be going to be looking

um are going to be going to be looking at then they can also explain that and

at then they can also explain that and and show how that is uh how that is

and show how that is uh how that is significant how that is new and and how

significant how that is new and and how that will reinforce also the excellence

that will reinforce also the excellence um that's already there in the

um that's already there in the institution.

institution. And this links quite well to our next

And this links quite well to our next evaluation criterion which is impact and

evaluation criterion which is impact and under that we have um the contribution

under that we have um the contribution to addressing human resource needs and

to addressing human resource needs and that can be at an from an institutional

that can be at an from an institutional level all the way up to European level.

level all the way up to European level. So that's really about explaining how do

So that's really about explaining how do these uh researchers that we're

these uh researchers that we're recruiting fill potentially a gap um or

recruiting fill potentially a gap um or a need uh that that they have. Um and

a need uh that that they have. Um and that can be like I said it's it's at all

that can be like I said it's it's at all different levels. So it can really be

different levels. So it can really be kind of you know in our in order to be

kind of you know in our in order to be truly excellent in our department we

truly excellent in our department we need um a specific type of research or a

need um a specific type of research or a specific type of technician but it can

specific type of technician but it can also be at a European level we're really

also be at a European level we're really looking at this um specific feed whether

looking at this um specific feed whether it be field whether it be climate

it be field whether it be climate science whether it be AI um and we're

science whether it be AI um and we're trying to increase this European

trying to increase this European competitiveness by addressing this need

competitiveness by addressing this need um so again you know wide variety really

um so again you know wide variety really trying to be flexible towards what

trying to be flexible towards what different institutions um might

different institutions um might encounter

encounter and then we have as second And and this

and then we have as second And and this is kind of this this structural effect

is kind of this this structural effect that we want to have across the MSDA um

that we want to have across the MSDA um because it's about strengthening HR best

because it's about strengthening HR best practices at institutional, regional,

practices at institutional, regional, national or international level. So we

national or international level. So we know that there's many institutions that

know that there's many institutions that are already doing fantastic things in in

are already doing fantastic things in in their HR practices, in their recruitment

their HR practices, in their recruitment practices, in their um in the way that

practices, in their um in the way that they they support researchers. So of

they they support researchers. So of course you emphasize that, but you can

course you emphasize that, but you can also emphasize anything new that you're

also emphasize anything new that you're that you're going to be able to do with

that you're going to be able to do with this um this initiative.

this um this initiative. And then finally um it's 20% uh yeah the

And then finally um it's 20% uh yeah the evaluation criteria are weighted so I

evaluation criteria are weighted so I didn't say that but of course uh

didn't say that but of course uh excellence is 50% impact is 30 and now

excellence is 50% impact is 30 and now implementation is 20% of the final

implementation is 20% of the final scoring when it's evaluated but don't be

scoring when it's evaluated but don't be mistaken implementation is still very

mistaken implementation is still very important of course for any project. So

important of course for any project. So it's quality credibility and

it's quality credibility and effectiveness of the recruitment and

effectiveness of the recruitment and work plan. Um so this might be a risk

work plan. Um so this might be a risk assessment. This might be um you know

assessment. This might be um you know which uh deliverables that you have and

which uh deliverables that you have and how you're going to achieve them. KPIs

how you're going to achieve them. KPIs like all of these different elements um

like all of these different elements um that really go into how uh a project is

that really go into how uh a project is uh implemented and how you're going to

uh implemented and how you're going to make it successful in a in practical

make it successful in a in practical terms. Uh and then finally the quality

terms. Uh and then finally the quality and capacity of the recruiting

and capacity of the recruiting institution. And here we're looking at

institution. And here we're looking at some best practices and some guidance

some best practices and some guidance that we already have. the European

that we already have. the European charter for researchers and the

charter for researchers and the agreement on reforming research

agreement on reforming research assessment. Um so also this this last

assessment. Um so also this this last one agreement on reforming research

one agreement on reforming research assessment. It's really about

assessment. It's really about recognizing um the variety of of roles

recognizing um the variety of of roles and practices that contribute to

and practices that contribute to excellent research. Um I mentioned

excellent research. Um I mentioned earlier with the the human resource

earlier with the the human resource needs that it's it doesn't necessarily

needs that it's it doesn't necessarily just have to be PIs that are being

just have to be PIs that are being recruited with this and this is the same

recruited with this and this is the same for the 2025 but we also know that we

for the 2025 but we also know that we need you know very specialized

need you know very specialized technicians. Uh we need data scientists.

technicians. Uh we need data scientists. So there's all of these different roles

So there's all of these different roles that contribute to research that are

that contribute to research that are really key for um European

really key for um European competitiveness and for you know

competitiveness and for you know excellent research being able to be

excellent research being able to be carried out and and we're we're open to

carried out and and we're we're open to all of these different uh elements um

all of these different uh elements um and really strengthening them uh through

and really strengthening them uh through choose Europe for science

and then I pass over to uh Daniela. Hello again. So I'll walk you through

Hello again. So I'll walk you through the slides um related rather to the

the slides um related rather to the implementation of this uh this program.

implementation of this uh this program. Um so um as an already mentioned um and

Um so um as an already mentioned um and also um just like the current one the

also um just like the current one the 2025 that recently closed and is um on

2025 that recently closed and is um on uh is carrying out the the evaluations

uh is carrying out the the evaluations um each program uh will have two phases.

um each program uh will have two phases. So the first uh phase it's going to be

So the first uh phase it's going to be fully funded by the EU and it's going to

fully funded by the EU and it's going to last either 24 months or 36 months and

last either 24 months or 36 months and the second phase is going to be fully

the second phase is going to be fully funded by the beneficiary. Uh this is in

funded by the beneficiary. Uh this is in line uh as I already mentioned with the

line uh as I already mentioned with the current 2025 call and it's going to last

current 2025 call and it's going to last 24 months. So from uh the application

24 months. So from uh the application phase the beneficiary the applicant

phase the beneficiary the applicant actually the potential beneficiary will

actually the potential beneficiary will have to choose between uh the duration

have to choose between uh the duration of the first phase 24 or 36 months

of the first phase 24 or 36 months and um as a difference compared to the

and um as a difference compared to the current one they will have the freedom

current one they will have the freedom to choose uh between the two phases

to choose uh between the two phases either to start with the phase fully

either to start with the phase fully funded by them or to start with the

funded by them or to start with the phase fully funded by the EU. So this is

phase fully funded by the EU. So this is a major difference compared to the 2025

a major difference compared to the 2025 call

I go to. Okay.

Okay. Um so

Um so compared again to the 2025 goal there is

compared again to the 2025 goal there is a change in terms of uh EU contributions

a change in terms of uh EU contributions that the fellows are going to receive.

that the fellows are going to receive. So per person month for the EU funded

So per person month for the EU funded phase of the programs um either if it's

phase of the programs um either if it's the first one or the second one um

the first one or the second one um regardless the duration the researchers

regardless the duration the researchers are going to be paid um something more

are going to be paid um something more in line with the current personal

in line with the current personal fellowships um so there are going to be

fellowships um so there are going to be unit costs um allocated to the

unit costs um allocated to the researchers and also unit costs

researchers and also unit costs allocated to the institutions applying

allocated to the institutions applying for these programs. There is going to be

for these programs. There is going to be a living allowance, a mobility allowance

a living allowance, a mobility allowance and a family allowance where the case

and a family allowance where the case is. And uh from the point of view of the

is. And uh from the point of view of the institutions, they are going to receive

institutions, they are going to receive money for the research, training and

money for the research, training and networking costs and also for the

networking costs and also for the management and indirect costs. And uh

management and indirect costs. And uh compared to the current uh program uh

compared to the current uh program uh this um unit costs have been um

this um unit costs have been um significantly

significantly increased uh so as to cover the needs um

increased uh so as to cover the needs um as much as possible.

as much as possible. Uh that means that the living allowance

Uh that means that the living allowance is going to be uh €6,350,

is going to be uh €6,350, the mobility one €710

the mobility one €710 and the family allowance where

and the family allowance where applicable €660. The research, training

applicable €660. The research, training and networking costs 1,000 and the

and networking costs 1,000 and the management and indirect costs 6 €650.

management and indirect costs 6 €650. Um there is another change and uh this

Um there is another change and uh this is also in line with the current uh

is also in line with the current uh personal fellowship programs. Um these

personal fellowship programs. Um these amounts are going to be adjusted. The

amounts are going to be adjusted. The the living allows is going to be

the living allows is going to be adjusted

adjusted um to a country coefficient um um

um to a country coefficient um um correction um code and um this is going

correction um code and um this is going to be decided well depending on the work

to be decided well depending on the work program. We have um at the very end we

program. We have um at the very end we have a table and um the applicants can

have a table and um the applicants can check uh it's pretty much the same for

check uh it's pretty much the same for all programs um and unit costs just like

all programs um and unit costs just like uh the personal fellowship ones.

uh the personal fellowship ones. Uh now going a bit more into details uh

Uh now going a bit more into details uh on the face fully funded by the

on the face fully funded by the beneficiary. Um

beneficiary. Um just to emphasize that this has to be

just to emphasize that this has to be set by the beneficiary and uh they have

set by the beneficiary and uh they have to ensure that the salaries they are

to ensure that the salaries they are going to offer during uh during this

going to offer during uh during this fully funded phase uh are going to be

fully funded phase uh are going to be competitive for the standards of the

competitive for the standards of the hosting countries. So they are going to

hosting countries. So they are going to be uh attractive at national level and

be uh attractive at national level and this has to be demonstrated in the

this has to be demonstrated in the proposal.

proposal. um they must be clearly communicated in

um they must be clearly communicated in the proposal and at the recruitment call

the proposal and at the recruitment call but this is going to be um checked later

but this is going to be um checked later on during the implementation of the

on during the implementation of the programs.

programs. These monthly gross reminerations uh

These monthly gross reminerations uh communicated and inserted in the

communicated and inserted in the application templates uh will have to be

application templates uh will have to be the gross gross salaries meaning that

the gross gross salaries meaning that they will have to include all

they will have to include all contributions and taxes um to be paid by

contributions and taxes um to be paid by the employer and employee uh in the

the employer and employee uh in the respective country.

respective country. In relation again to the project

In relation again to the project implementation, um the contracts will

implementation, um the contracts will have to be um uh temporary contracts,

have to be um uh temporary contracts, employment contracts or equivalent

employment contracts or equivalent direct contracts. Um and with some

direct contracts. Um and with some exceptions uh we can accept also uh

exceptions uh we can accept also uh fixed amount fellowships where um the

fixed amount fellowships where um the applicants are going to be in um

applicants are going to be in um international European research

international European research organizations.

organizations. These are the entities created under the

These are the entities created under the union law or international organizations

union law or international organizations uh where um they pro prohibit the

uh where um they pro prohibit the possibility of um offering this um

possibility of um offering this um employment contracts and um where these

employment contracts and um where these are subject to prior agreement or um a

are subject to prior agreement or um a granting authority.

Uh in terms of challenges um related to the selection and recruitment process um

the selection and recruitment process um please make sure that um in your

please make sure that um in your applications uh you will u make sure to

applications uh you will u make sure to comply with the transparency

comply with the transparency requirements. So uh make sure that the

requirements. So uh make sure that the selection and recruitment of the fellows

selection and recruitment of the fellows will be um uh unbiased. Um please make

will be um uh unbiased. Um please make sure to tackle the connection with the

sure to tackle the connection with the long-term perspective. Um this is very

long-term perspective. Um this is very important. These are uh this is one of

important. These are uh this is one of the main objectives of the call and uh

the main objectives of the call and uh please be clear in terms of the

please be clear in terms of the remineration the attractiveness of the

remineration the attractiveness of the research programs.

Um well analysts kindly put together um here some some information um the

here some some information um the differences the main differences between

differences the main differences between the 2025 and the 2027 calls. Um so um I

the 2025 and the 2027 calls. Um so um I will start on the left side with the

will start on the left side with the beneficiary um which in the current 2025

beneficiary um which in the current 2025 uh call um was only one um we didn't

uh call um was only one um we didn't accept implementing partner and in the

accept implementing partner and in the 2027 one uh we will accept implementing

2027 one uh we will accept implementing partner that will be able to recruit and

partner that will be able to recruit and host researchers and also claim costs.

host researchers and also claim costs. So this is a major difference between

So this is a major difference between the 2025 and the 2027 call.

the 2025 and the 2027 call. Um we uh in relation to the funding we

Um we uh in relation to the funding we also offer now the possibility to choose

also offer now the possibility to choose between um which phase the applicant is

between um which phase the applicant is going to start with either is the EU

going to start with either is the EU funded phase or the fully funded phase

funded phase or the fully funded phase by them and um we also increased the

by them and um we also increased the unit contributions that means that the

unit contributions that means that the programs are going to become even more

programs are going to become even more attractive for the EU funded phase and

attractive for the EU funded phase and we hope to see a very successful

we hope to see a very successful application ations and um also um at the

application ations and um also um at the implementation phase um uh happy

implementation phase um uh happy researchers uh with long-term

researchers uh with long-term perspective and uh very well paid. And

perspective and uh very well paid. And also in terms of budget um there is um

also in terms of budget um there is um there is more than a double of the

there is more than a double of the budget made available for the 2025 call.

budget made available for the 2025 call. So the 2027 call is going to uh benefit

So the 2027 call is going to uh benefit of 51.25 €25 million

of 51.25 €25 million and uh this means that we can increase

and uh this means that we can increase also the amount granted per project from

also the amount granted per project from 3.5 million to 5 million

3.5 million to 5 million and I think that's it from our side.

and I think that's it from our side. Thank you very much.

Thank you very much. >> Thank you for this opportunity.

>> Thank you for this opportunity. >> Yeah, thank you. It was uh very clear

>> Yeah, thank you. It was uh very clear and I believe we can go directly to the

and I believe we can go directly to the questions.

questions. >> I think there are already quite a lot.

>> I think there are already quite a lot. Yeah. So let's start with the first one.

Yeah. So let's start with the first one. Is the budget for choose Europe new

Is the budget for choose Europe new additional funding or transfer from

additional funding or transfer from other parts of Horizon Europe? I suppose

other parts of Horizon Europe? I suppose Marius close.

Marius close. Uh yeah, there was uh no additional

Uh yeah, there was uh no additional funding that was made available to uh

funding that was made available to uh implement the um you know the the new uh

implement the um you know the the new uh choose Europe for science um call. So

choose Europe for science um call. So yes, it's um it's it's kind of we we had

yes, it's um it's it's kind of we we had to be a bit creative with the uh

to be a bit creative with the uh existing MSEA budget.

existing MSEA budget. >> Thank you, Analise. Um so let's continue

>> Thank you, Analise. Um so let's continue with the next question. What are the

with the next question. What are the main differences between Gan and Choose

main differences between Gan and Choose Europe? They seem to align a lot in

Europe? They seem to align a lot in terms of goals.

terms of goals. >> Uh yes, they do. And uh one of the

>> Uh yes, they do. And uh one of the reasons for that is that in the 2025

reasons for that is that in the 2025 call of course we were um creating a a

call of course we were um creating a a new instrument um in in a very short

new instrument um in in a very short space of time. So um in in order to do

space of time. So um in in order to do that we uh had to use um yeah the the

that we uh had to use um yeah the the actions available and of course co-und

actions available and of course co-und made the most uh sense as a as a model

made the most uh sense as a as a model to build off of because it it already

to build off of because it it already had this this co-unding element which

had this this co-unding element which was proposed as as being something that

was proposed as as being something that would be helpful in uh to ensure the the

would be helpful in uh to ensure the the risk sharing um and ensure kind of these

risk sharing um and ensure kind of these these long-term prospects by um going

these long-term prospects by um going from EU funding to also supporting it

from EU funding to also supporting it themselves and then having this

themselves and then having this long-term prospect

long-term prospect Um so yes there's there's a lot of

Um so yes there's there's a lot of similarities in terms of how it's built

similarities in terms of how it's built up but uh yeah I think we we also have a

up but uh yeah I think we we also have a great table um that that shows the

great table um that that shows the differences between uh co-und and choose

differences between uh co-und and choose Europe and I think in the 2027 call

Europe and I think in the 2027 call there's even more differences just

there's even more differences just because of the way that the budget is

because of the way that the budget is set up. So we no longer work with an

set up. So we no longer work with an allowance like we did in um the first

allowance like we did in um the first choose Europe for science call and that

choose Europe for science call and that we do in co-und. we now work with um

we do in co-und. we now work with um full you know PF unit contributions

full you know PF unit contributions um and of course there is this this

um and of course there is this this added aim of of these concrete long-term

added aim of of these concrete long-term for career prospects we know that in a

for career prospects we know that in a lot of MSTA programs uh in all of them

lot of MSTA programs uh in all of them actually you know employability and

actually you know employability and skills and these things are important

skills and these things are important but it's it's not um it's it's not

but it's it's not um it's it's not concrete that the the institution has to

concrete that the the institution has to explain how they're giving something

explain how they're giving something more concrete like what opportunities

more concrete like what opportunities they're making available and how they're

they're making available and how they're training these individual researchers in

training these individual researchers in order to be, you know, eligible to be

order to be, you know, eligible to be prepared and to be really competitive

prepared and to be really competitive for these um specific um yeah these

for these um specific um yeah these specific opportunities that that they

specific opportunities that that they might have at the end of the program. So

might have at the end of the program. So those are the the main differences I

those are the the main differences I would say but it is true that there

would say but it is true that there there will be a lot of similarities and

there will be a lot of similarities and I think that institutions who have

I think that institutions who have applied for co-und will will recognize

applied for co-und will will recognize um several things and now of course with

um several things and now of course with implementing partners that is something

implementing partners that is something that comes back that is available in

that comes back that is available in co-und um and that is now again

co-und um and that is now again available in uh zero for science and uh

available in uh zero for science and uh maybe just also to say that you know all

maybe just also to say that you know all of these changes that we've built in um

of these changes that we've built in um to the the new call is based on feedback

to the the new call is based on feedback that we got on the the 2025 uh call that

that we got on the the 2025 uh call that we had. So there were it was very much a

we had. So there were it was very much a test balloon for us and we we got

test balloon for us and we we got fantastic feedback from our program

fantastic feedback from our program committee from NCPs from from various

committee from NCPs from from various parties and so we've tried to like

parties and so we've tried to like Daniela said make it more attractive for

Daniela said make it more attractive for institutions and for researchers through

institutions and for researchers through through making these changes

employment contract is longer. So that means that actually the fellows have the

means that actually the fellows have the possibility to spend more time doing the

possibility to spend more time doing the research, publishing and applying for

research, publishing and applying for long-term um uh opportunities that may

long-term um uh opportunities that may arise in in um in the respective

arise in in um in the respective institution but also at in other

institution but also at in other institutions uh in the respective

institutions uh in the respective country. So I think um gives gives them

country. So I think um gives gives them a bit more of um let's say uh comfort

a bit more of um let's say uh comfort knowing that they have more time to

knowing that they have more time to prepare and also to carry out their

prepare and also to carry out their research projects. So I think the

research projects. So I think the results are going to be even more

results are going to be even more tangible than for the current current

tangible than for the current current post-doctoral um confant.

post-doctoral um confant. >> Okay. Thank you. I think it was very

>> Okay. Thank you. I think it was very clear. Um we continue with the next

clear. Um we continue with the next question. Um, can you say something more

question. Um, can you say something more about which institutions can be

about which institutions can be implementing partners in in in a CFS?

implementing partners in in in a CFS? What sets then apart from a beneficiary?

What sets then apart from a beneficiary? Yeah,

Yeah, >> I could take

>> I could take >> Yeah, Daniela,

>> Yeah, Daniela, >> that one uh it's more related to the

>> that one uh it's more related to the implementation. So,

implementation. So, >> what is CFS?

>> what is CFS? >> It's two zero for science.

>> It's two zero for science. >> Okay, it's so long.

>> Okay, it's so long. >> It's so long probably. Yes.

>> It's so long probably. Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Sorry.

>> Okay. Okay. Sorry. >> It's easier.

>> It's easier. No worries. Um we also had a bit of a an

No worries. Um we also had a bit of a an issue you know just using it uh in some

issue you know just using it uh in some in some correspondence I would say. Um

in some correspondence I would say. Um so uh any type of institution can can

so uh any type of institution can can apply for um program choose to for

apply for um program choose to for science program. Um

science program. Um they can be you know they can be

they can be you know they can be consultia. So they can form um a

consultia. So they can form um a consortia let's say and uh one of them

consortia let's say and uh one of them uh becomes the beneficiary signing the

uh becomes the beneficiary signing the contract with the research executive

contract with the research executive agency uh who is the uh the institution

agency uh who is the uh the institution delegated to implement this program. Uh

delegated to implement this program. Uh and there is basically there is no

and there is basically there is no difference between the uh implementing

difference between the uh implementing partners except for the one who will

partners except for the one who will sign the contract with the institution.

sign the contract with the institution. The others will be part of um let's say

The others will be part of um let's say memorandum of understanding or

memorandum of understanding or partnership agreement that will be

partnership agreement that will be signed at consortia level and they will

signed at consortia level and they will also benefit of the funding but it will

also benefit of the funding but it will be uh more like a cascade funding. They

be uh more like a cascade funding. They will not receive directly the EU

will not receive directly the EU contribution

contribution and I don't see any major difference.

and I don't see any major difference. It's up to the consortia to decide which

It's up to the consortia to decide which one is going to be the one applying uh

one is going to be the one applying uh for the respective program um and uh

for the respective program um and uh submit the proposal.

submit the proposal. Okay, thank you. So we continue with the

Okay, thank you. So we continue with the next uh question.

next uh question. Are the MSEA posts also welcome in

Are the MSEA posts also welcome in public administrations or only relevant

public administrations or only relevant for research institutions? I don't know

for research institutions? I don't know which I have to welcome anywhere but

which I have to welcome anywhere but they have to carry out a research

they have to carry out a research project. you know that is part of it is

project. you know that is part of it is it is still part of MSDA so research

it is still part of MSDA so research excellence is still key um so yeah the

excellence is still key um so yeah the and that's also something that's being

and that's also something that's being assessed of course like we we said you

assessed of course like we we said you know there's there's a portion which is

know there's there's a portion which is the the research um innovation and

the the research um innovation and academ and or academic objectives but re

academ and or academic objectives but re the research one is not or the research

the research one is not or the research is is is key so we we welcome

is is is key so we we welcome applications from institutions that are

applications from institutions that are you know like I said in in any sector

you know like I said in in any sector but they must respect this fact that it

but they must respect this fact that it is you know the the recruited uh

is you know the the recruited uh researchers have to carry out research

researchers have to carry out research um as a core part of of what they're

um as a core part of of what they're doing in choose Europe for science.

doing in choose Europe for science. >> Okay. Thank you. So next question uh is

>> Okay. Thank you. So next question uh is the role of scientific project manager

the role of scientific project manager also eligible for funding under MSA

also eligible for funding under MSA analysis

analysis >> Daniela I think you can tackle this. I'm

>> Daniela I think you can tackle this. I'm sure

sure >> we have already received this question.

>> we have already received this question. Yeah, we've received the question also

Yeah, we've received the question also um project managers specifically like I

um project managers specifically like I said data scientists as well and this is

said data scientists as well and this is this is one of the things that I said

this is one of the things that I said we're we're trying to be very flexible

we're we're trying to be very flexible into the roles that they're

into the roles that they're transitioning into um but again during

transitioning into um but again during during the actual choose Europe for

during the actual choose Europe for science project they have to still carry

science project they have to still carry out research so it they can't just be uh

out research so it they can't just be uh in an administrative role during the

in an administrative role during the choose Europe for science period but of

choose Europe for science period but of course if the position that is the

course if the position that is the long-term prospect um is a scientific

long-term prospect um is a scientific project manager position then we expect

project manager position then we expect that the training that they're getting

that the training that they're getting and that they're getting the experience

and that they're getting the experience that they would need in order to do that

that they would need in order to do that um towards the end. And of course also

um towards the end. And of course also institutions have to be very transparent

institutions have to be very transparent in terms of what these long-term

in terms of what these long-term prospects are so that the researcher

prospects are so that the researcher who's applying to whichever successful

who's applying to whichever successful choose Europe for science proposals are

choose Europe for science proposals are out there, whichever programs are set

out there, whichever programs are set up, that they're prepared not just for

up, that they're prepared not just for the prospect um during the duration of

the prospect um during the duration of the choose Europe for science uh

the choose Europe for science uh program, but also that they that they

program, but also that they that they know what the what the long-term

know what the what the long-term prospect is that they're that they're

prospect is that they're that they're moving towards. But we recognize that

moving towards. But we recognize that project managers, there's so much of a

project managers, there's so much of a benefit of them actually having this

benefit of them actually having this deep research knowledge and being able

deep research knowledge and being able to support different projects in that

to support different projects in that way. And yeah, like I said, we we try

way. And yeah, like I said, we we try and recognize all of the different

and recognize all of the different elements that come towards making

elements that come towards making research excellent and we know that

research excellent and we know that project managers also have a role in

project managers also have a role in that. So,

that. So, >> okay, thank you. I seem very clear. Um,

>> okay, thank you. I seem very clear. Um, let's continue. uh can the budget

let's continue. uh can the budget covered from the beneficiary come from a

covered from the beneficiary come from a combination of EU and national projects?

combination of EU and national projects? >> I think this is a bit more uh tricky

>> I think this is a bit more uh tricky because the EU funding um should not

because the EU funding um should not come from a horizon as far as uh the

come from a horizon as far as uh the latest interpretation but we need to

latest interpretation but we need to check I think um again for the 2027 call

check I think um again for the 2027 call because there might be a slight change.

because there might be a slight change. uh in principle it it can come from um

uh in principle it it can come from um any funding that uh is not horizon at

any funding that uh is not horizon at least for the 2025 call uh we can

least for the 2025 call uh we can confirm that after consulting with our

confirm that after consulting with our legal officers

legal officers and um I think this discovers this

and um I think this discovers this question for the 2027 I think

question for the 2027 I think >> I think the wording

>> I think the wording >> we need to

>> we need to >> did change so we'll check with our legal

>> did change so we'll check with our legal >> we'll check again with our legal experts

>> we'll check again with our legal experts >> we don't want to give wrong information

>> we don't want to give wrong information [laughter]

[laughter] >> no but uh in the past we had the

>> no but uh in the past we had the combination of structural funding um

combination of structural funding um that was combined with um funding from

that was combined with um funding from the EU and I think also European social

the EU and I think also European social funding but that was in FB7 and um

funding but that was in FB7 and um Horizon 2020 so that was in the past for

Horizon 2020 so that was in the past for this one uh we need to consult still

this one uh we need to consult still internally to confirm for the 2027 call

internally to confirm for the 2027 call >> okay so maybe you in the future uh have

>> okay so maybe you in the future uh have a FAQ published in the portal with this

a FAQ published in the portal with this information we will prepare

information we will prepare we will prepare an FAQ like we did for

we will prepare an FAQ like we did for the current 2025 one and we will um try

the current 2025 one and we will um try to address these questions um so that we

to address these questions um so that we provide clarity for the applicants of

provide clarity for the applicants of course. Thank you. So next question is

course. Thank you. So next question is uh will MSA go post-doctoral come back

uh will MSA go post-doctoral come back in the future or it will be permanently

in the future or it will be permanently replaced by choose Europe and this year

replaced by choose Europe and this year will be the last call for Kofan uh PF.

will be the last call for Kofan uh PF. >> Yeah. So I mean this is a question for

>> Yeah. So I mean this is a question for the next framework program which is

the next framework program which is still in in full construction. I think

still in in full construction. I think um we're still at the phase of

um we're still at the phase of negotiating the regulation and the

negotiating the regulation and the budget. So I I think you you'll have to

budget. So I I think you you'll have to watch this space um because we we have

watch this space um because we we have we're still internally having a lot of

we're still internally having a lot of discussions about this and and hopefully

discussions about this and and hopefully we get clarity on some of the initial

we get clarity on some of the initial things very soon and then we can really

things very soon and then we can really start building um yeah building it uh

start building um yeah building it uh with with more with a more secure

with with more with a more secure foundation let's just say once we have

foundation let's just say once we have the information that we need.

the information that we need. >> Okay. Thank you. Next question. Um, in

>> Okay. Thank you. Next question. Um, in goals where participation by China is

goals where participation by China is restricted, does this also mean that

restricted, does this also mean that beneficiaries are not allowed to

beneficiaries are not allowed to subcontract entities based in China?

subcontract entities based in China? >> I program does not involve

>> I program does not involve subcontracting. That's one thing. And

subcontracting. That's one thing. And secondly, eligible applicate applicants

secondly, eligible applicate applicants must be member states or associated

must be member states or associated countries to Horizon Europe. But for

countries to Horizon Europe. But for MSEA, um, it's not even a question of

MSEA, um, it's not even a question of restricting to China. they have to be

restricting to China. they have to be member state or associated country.

member state or associated country. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> And for associated partners, I think

>> And for associated partners, I think it's it's all in the work program where

it's it's all in the work program where there's something at Horizon level where

there's something at Horizon level where participation of certain institutions um

participation of certain institutions um is not allowed then then that's you know

is not allowed then then that's you know that that's horizon wide. So of course

that that's horizon wide. So of course we comply with that as well in MSEA

we comply with that as well in MSEA course.

course. >> Yeah. [snorts] Uh next question is for

>> Yeah. [snorts] Uh next question is for choose Europe uh previously could also

choose Europe uh previously could also hire posttos who were working in

hire posttos who were working in research infrastructures and teaching

research infrastructures and teaching etc. Is that still the case?

etc. Is that still the case? >> Yes. Yeah. Yes of course.

>> Yes. Yeah. Yes of course. >> Okay. So quick reply clear.

>> Okay. So quick reply clear. >> So next question is it more advantages

>> So next question is it more advantages to be a single entity or to have

to be a single entity or to have additional implementing partners?

additional implementing partners? Difficult question. Nella

Difficult question. Nella from uh the evaluator's point of view

from uh the evaluator's point of view [laughter]

[laughter] um I don't think uh being a single

um I don't think uh being a single entity or having more implementing

entity or having more implementing partners would weigh so much um but I

partners would weigh so much um but I think um if the applicants follow the

think um if the applicants follow the template proposal and address very well

template proposal and address very well each point regardless uh if they are

each point regardless uh if they are single entity or uh having um being part

single entity or uh having um being part of a consortia if they manage to

of a consortia if they manage to convince evaluators that their program

convince evaluators that their program is is good. I don't think this is an

is is good. I don't think this is an element that matters so much. So they

element that matters so much. So they are going to assess the quality of the

are going to assess the quality of the program

program um as a whole and the the the proposal

um as a whole and the the the proposal as we will provide the template proposal

as we will provide the template proposal of course um and I don't think uh this

of course um and I don't think uh this element weights so much in the

element weights so much in the evaluation process but

evaluation process but okay um we continue with the next uh

okay um we continue with the next uh question slides say uh maximum 5 million

question slides say uh maximum 5 million Europe per beneficiary per call

Europe per beneficiary per call >> only one application per organization in

>> only one application per organization in this call possible

this call possible >> as far as I know yes um I don't think we

>> as far as I know yes um I don't think we allow them to submit two proposals by

allow them to submit two proposals by the same um beneficiary

>> I think this is >> we need we need to check

>> we need we need to check >> in co-und it is possible but you have to

>> in co-und it is possible but you have to stay under the the maximum um

stay under the the maximum um >> in the normal co-und

>> in the normal co-und >> in a normal co-und so yeah this is again

>> in a normal co-und so yeah this is again something to just quickly

something to just quickly >> we will we will check internally with

>> we will we will check internally with our legal team and confirm

our legal team and confirm >> and we're mentally noting all this down

>> and we're mentally noting all this down for the FAQ.

for the FAQ. >> Yes. [laughter]

>> Yes. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. So we go to the

>> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. So we go to the next question. Uh the flexibility to

next question. Uh the flexibility to choose when to use the funding from EU

choose when to use the funding from EU first phase versus second is great. Can

first phase versus second is great. Can it be differently implemented for

it be differently implemented for different postocs

different postocs in the same project or the recruited

in the same project or the recruited postocs? I don't no I

postocs? I don't no I >> so if it if the um anonymous who

>> so if it if the um anonymous who who asked whether this can be

who asked whether this can be implemented by the postocs recruited

implemented by the postocs recruited within the respective program then no um

within the respective program then no um so the applicant chooses at the very

so the applicant chooses at the very beginning when it submits the proposal

beginning when it submits the proposal whether um it will start by the phase

whether um it will start by the phase funded by the EU or by the phase fully

funded by the EU or by the phase fully funded by them. That means that during

funded by them. That means that during the implementation um they will not be

the implementation um they will not be able to switch between the the two

able to switch between the the two phases as the researchers may find fit.

phases as the researchers may find fit. So they have to stick with what they

So they have to stick with what they choose when they submit the application

choose when they submit the application if this is what the um person who sent

if this is what the um person who sent this question meant.

this question meant. >> Otherwise maybe you can post another

>> Otherwise maybe you can post another question clarifying exactly.

question clarifying exactly. >> Yes, exactly.

>> Yes, exactly. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> So we continue with the next one. Erh

>> So we continue with the next one. Erh what is the motivation of not involving

what is the motivation of not involving the future supervisor in the recruitment

the future supervisor in the recruitment process?

process? >> Ah it's for you Daniela.

>> Ah it's for you Daniela. >> Yes. So um we need to ensure that the

>> Yes. So um we need to ensure that the recruitment the selection and

recruitment the selection and recruitment of the fellows is

recruitment of the fellows is transparent and unbiased

transparent and unbiased and we believe that the involvement of a

and we believe that the involvement of a supervisor uh may be um considered

supervisor uh may be um considered as uh biased and um I would say um

as uh biased and um I would say um pre-selection

pre-selection because the selection and recruitment

because the selection and recruitment process involves several stages. Um the

process involves several stages. Um the application phase, the interview phase

application phase, the interview phase um and throughout these uh stages uh we

um and throughout these uh stages uh we need to ensure that all fellows benefit

need to ensure that all fellows benefit of the same treatment and same

of the same treatment and same conditions.

conditions. So um to ensure this process from our

So um to ensure this process from our experience from implementing kofan so

experience from implementing kofan so many years

many years uh we have um noticed that um not

uh we have um noticed that um not involving the supervisors in the

involving the supervisors in the recruitment process is actually a

recruitment process is actually a guarantee that this um the applicants

guarantee that this um the applicants the researchers who are going to apply

the researchers who are going to apply for these positions are going to benefit

for these positions are going to benefit of a fair treatment transparent and um

of a fair treatment transparent and um unbiased selection process.

unbiased selection process. And maybe just to add to this because

And maybe just to add to this because there's been a bit of misunderstanding

there's been a bit of misunderstanding as well about um the idea that

as well about um the idea that supervisors are completely you know

supervisors are completely you know excluded

excluded >> excluded but of course um what what is

>> excluded but of course um what what is absolutely allowed and and I think it's

absolutely allowed and and I think it's it's in the the guide for applicants

it's in the the guide for applicants like they they make this clear is that

like they they make this clear is that if an applicant is interested and wants

if an applicant is interested and wants to know about the infrastructure at that

to know about the infrastructure at that institution wants to know a little bit

institution wants to know a little bit more about the team wants to know more

more about the team wants to know more about the research options that are

about the research options that are available

available and these kinds of things then they can

and these kinds of things then they can of course communicate make contact with

of course communicate make contact with the supervisor. It's really the

the supervisor. It's really the recruitment and selection process where

recruitment and selection process where the supervisor is excluded and the

the supervisor is excluded and the supervisor can't be involved in writing

supervisor can't be involved in writing the applicants you know their proposal

the applicants you know their proposal to the call that the institution will be

to the call that the institution will be um having. So it's not like contact is

um having. So it's not like contact is completely barred, but you have to

completely barred, but you have to explain that contact will not, you know,

explain that contact will not, you know, will not go into this recruitment and

will not go into this recruitment and selection procedure because we know that

selection procedure because we know that applicants want information about the

applicants want information about the institution that they're applying for

institution that they're applying for and the team. So um yeah, just to to

and the team. So um yeah, just to to clarify that.

clarify that. >> Okay, thank you.

>> Okay, thank you. >> So we go to the next one. Um are there

>> So we go to the next one. Um are there any excellence initiatives planned for

any excellence initiatives planned for also support roles for science such as

also support roles for science such as project managers, technicians, data

project managers, technicians, data managers etc.

managers etc. Don't know who can answer

Don't know who can answer >> um excellence initiatives meaning like

>> um excellence initiatives meaning like additional

additional >> initiatives like this yeah like like

>> initiatives like this yeah like like this one I suppose

this one I suppose >> but even this one I think and analyst

>> but even this one I think and analyst can confirm this one also may involve uh

can confirm this one also may involve uh recruiting technicians uh highly trained

recruiting technicians uh highly trained technicians and further training them uh

technicians and further training them uh to become um you know for long-term

to become um you know for long-term career prospects. So um also project

career prospects. So um also project managers also data managers as long as

managers also data managers as long as they will um have to implement uh

they will um have to implement uh research programs and they will be

research programs and they will be trained these choose your for science

trained these choose your for science programs are able to to recruit to

programs are able to to recruit to select and recruit such um such

select and recruit such um such researchers for such positions. So yeah

researchers for such positions. So yeah and and maybe as well it's like I said

and and maybe as well it's like I said it's it's open to all of these positions

it's it's open to all of these positions but it it can also of course be to

but it it can also of course be to recruit a PI you know someone who goes

recruit a PI you know someone who goes on and becomes a a a leader of a lab or

on and becomes a a a leader of a lab or who becomes um a lecturer who who you

who becomes um a lecturer who who you know lecturer researcher combination so

know lecturer researcher combination so it's it's it's the the main thing is

it's it's it's the the main thing is this idea of you know research and

this idea of you know research and making sure the research excellence and

making sure the research excellence and all the different roles that contribute

all the different roles that contribute um but MSCA If you look at something

um but MSCA If you look at something like um staff exchanges also, you know,

like um staff exchanges also, you know, it's all about their research excellence

it's all about their research excellence and their research project, but staff

and their research project, but staff can be involved beyond just PIs. So,

can be involved beyond just PIs. So, it's, you know, this this isn't um this

it's, you know, this this isn't um this isn't the first time that that we've

isn't the first time that that we've opened calls up to to different kinds of

opened calls up to to different kinds of roles that are contributing to research.

roles that are contributing to research. It's really about justifying the the the

It's really about justifying the the the contribution that they have um the well

contribution that they have um the well the project itself that has to have a

the project itself that has to have a research orientation. and of course um

research orientation. and of course um the contribution that they're making to

the contribution that they're making to to the RNI uh ecosystem and the the

to the RNI uh ecosystem and the the excellence of that institution and then

excellence of that institution and then scaling up however far they want to

scaling up however far they want to scale up.

scale up. >> Okay, thank you. I think we can go to

>> Okay, thank you. I think we can go to the next uh question. Um what are the

the next uh question. Um what are the consequences the fellow leaves the

consequences the fellow leaves the institution after the EU funded phase

institution after the EU funded phase but before the co-unded phase is

but before the co-unded phase is finished?

finished? Well, um we we cannot uh penalize the

Well, um we we cannot uh penalize the institutions recruiting the fellows if

institutions recruiting the fellows if the fellows choose to leave the program

the fellows choose to leave the program earlier than uh the end date of their

earlier than uh the end date of their employment contracts or before the EU

employment contracts or before the EU the end of the EU funded phase or before

the end of the EU funded phase or before the co-unded phase uh is finished. Um so

the co-unded phase uh is finished. Um so uh we cannot penalize the institutions

uh we cannot penalize the institutions as long as they can um also uh prove

as long as they can um also uh prove that they did their best to accommodate

that they did their best to accommodate the fellows to provide them the best

the fellows to provide them the best conditions as set in the grant

conditions as set in the grant agreements that they are going to sign

agreements that they are going to sign with the research executive agency. So

with the research executive agency. So um we cannot prevent them of course from

um we cannot prevent them of course from leaving if they find better positions

leaving if they find better positions elsewhere and if the training actually

elsewhere and if the training actually that they have received um offering them

that they have received um offering them long-term career prospects is

long-term career prospects is materialized

materialized >> then of course uh uh this is going to be

>> then of course uh uh this is going to be u complete benefit for the fellows and

u complete benefit for the fellows and this is also our main objective.

this is also our main objective. >> Okay thank you. Um so we go to the next

>> Okay thank you. Um so we go to the next question

question on the scientific project manager. I

on the scientific project manager. I guess the question was about the one

guess the question was about the one managing this choose euro for science.

managing this choose euro for science. This position must be funded by the

This position must be funded by the institution unit cost.

institution unit cost. >> Uh yeah

>> Uh yeah >> maybe yes

>> maybe yes >> yeah they can choose to use their their

>> yeah they can choose to use their their institution unit cost for that. I think

institution unit cost for that. I think that's

that's >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Okay. So, I hope this clarifies. You

>> Okay. So, I hope this clarifies. You want to add anything?

want to add anything? >> No, no, no.

>> No, no, no. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> So, we go to the next question. Is there

>> So, we go to the next question. Is there a minimum share for the institutions

a minimum share for the institutions funds in comparison to EU funds? Can the

funds in comparison to EU funds? Can the institutions part be financed by

institutions part be financed by national funding?

national funding? Um I'm not aware of any minimum share of

Um I'm not aware of any minimum share of the institution's funds. Um I'm not sure

the institution's funds. Um I'm not sure I fully understand this question

I fully understand this question actually. Uh if they are talking about

actually. Uh if they are talking about the funded fa the phase funded by the

the funded fa the phase funded by the applicant future potential beneficiary

applicant future potential beneficiary um

um maybe some clarification would be uh

maybe some clarification would be uh welcomed here. And then can the

welcomed here. And then can the institutions part uh so the part funded

institutions part uh so the part funded by the beneficiary financed by national

by the beneficiary financed by national funding. Yes of course. Um

funding. Yes of course. Um >> yeah and maybe to come

>> yeah and maybe to come >> yes please please go ahead

>> yes please please go ahead >> to come in on on the first bit of course

>> to come in on on the first bit of course and you know an institution because this

and you know an institution because this second phase it's all about being

second phase it's all about being attractive you know making sure that

attractive you know making sure that what you're offering is competitive or

what you're offering is competitive or the second phase the the beneficiary you

the second phase the the beneficiary you know funded phase um is all about being

know funded phase um is all about being attractive at uh their their local level

attractive at uh their their local level their national level um that's going to

their national level um that's going to look different what's attractive in

look different what's attractive in different countries so for different

different countries so for different institutions the amount that they are

institutions the amount that they are they the amount of funding that they're

they the amount of funding that they're putting in for that phase will look

putting in for that phase will look different. So we recognize that and we

different. So we recognize that and we don't want to you know um put any

don't want to you know um put any numbers on that or any share but there

numbers on that or any share but there will also maybe be institutions who even

will also maybe be institutions who even already in the first phase um want to

already in the first phase um want to top up in some way and that's also

top up in some way and that's also completely fine. Um so yeah but I cut

completely fine. Um so yeah but I cut you off. I think you were going to say

you off. I think you were going to say something more about the the national

something more about the the national funding.

funding. >> Uh yes this this is different from one

>> Uh yes this this is different from one country to another. This is why we we

country to another. This is why we we probably it's better not to to go into

probably it's better not to to go into details. So the beneficiaries must prove

details. So the beneficiaries must prove in the proposal and convince uh the

in the proposal and convince uh the evaluators that what they are offering

evaluators that what they are offering in the during the phase fully funded by

in the during the phase fully funded by them is competitive at national level.

them is competitive at national level. So uh please pay attention there. We are

So uh please pay attention there. We are not talking about regional or

not talking about regional or international. We are talking about

international. We are talking about national. So whatever they provide in

national. So whatever they provide in the proposal as arguments um that this

the proposal as arguments um that this is um this is competitive and attractive

is um this is competitive and attractive uh to any researcher that would be

uh to any researcher that would be employed in the respective country then

employed in the respective country then this is what the evaluators are going to

this is what the evaluators are going to to assess and um we don't have a minimum

to assess and um we don't have a minimum share of institutions funds um we don't

share of institutions funds um we don't impose limits uh they they can even

impose limits uh they they can even provide even a better salary than we are

provide even a better salary than we are offering during the EU funded phase. So,

offering during the EU funded phase. So, of course,

of course, >> yeah, and national funding, you know,

>> yeah, and national funding, you know, institutions uh can find I think Daniela

institutions uh can find I think Daniela was saying it earlier, there's many

was saying it earlier, there's many different ways that the institution can

different ways that the institution can can uh provide this co-unding. So,

can uh provide this co-unding. So, national funding is an option, regional

national funding is an option, regional funding. If the institution has the

funding. If the institution has the funding themselves, of course, great.

funding themselves, of course, great. Um, but we know that many actually do

Um, but we know that many actually do rely on this this higher level uh

rely on this this higher level uh funding

funding >> private resources also private resources

>> private resources also private resources if they have uh industrial partnerships.

if they have uh industrial partnerships. I mean, yeah, of course, lots of

I mean, yeah, of course, lots of flexibility there.

flexibility there. >> Okay, thank you. So, we continue with

>> Okay, thank you. So, we continue with the next one. Um, I think I missed a

the next one. Um, I think I missed a basic information. What is choose for

basic information. What is choose for science? A new name for MSEA. Thanks.

science? A new name for MSEA. Thanks. So, yeah, please

So, yeah, please >> choose Europe for science is many things

>> choose Europe for science is many things at this point. Um, but within the

at this point. Um, but within the context of MSDA, it's not a new name for

context of MSDA, it's not a new name for MSEA. We love Maurice Kodusk reactions

MSEA. We love Maurice Kodusk reactions as our name. We we like being, you know,

as our name. We we like being, you know, named after this famous, you know, world

named after this famous, you know, world changing scientist.

changing scientist. >> We are celebrating 30 years of this

>> We are celebrating 30 years of this year. So,

year. So, >> indeed. Uh there's a great video by her

>> indeed. Uh there's a great video by her granddaughter online. I'm just going to

granddaughter online. I'm just going to like plug that here as well. Um

like plug that here as well. Um [laughter]

[laughter] but uh choose Europe for Science is a

but uh choose Europe for Science is a specific call within the uh MSDA and

specific call within the uh MSDA and it's a new one which is why we're we're

it's a new one which is why we're we're giving a bit more information now. Um

giving a bit more information now. Um and and so yeah, it's it's different

and and so yeah, it's it's different from the the other calls that we have.

from the the other calls that we have. So the the PF the post-docctoral

So the the PF the post-docctoral fellowship doctoral networks staff

fellowship doctoral networks staff exchange co-und and now choose Europe

exchange co-und and now choose Europe for science is is a new one that that we

for science is is a new one that that we have uh available.

have uh available. >> Okay thank you. So we continue with the

>> Okay thank you. So we continue with the next question. Uh can recruited

next question. Uh can recruited researchers work at more than one

researchers work at more than one partner

partner uh i.e. the goofunded months paid by

uh i.e. the goofunded months paid by more than one institution eg within a

more than one institution eg within a European university alliance.

European university alliance. This is probably a very specific

This is probably a very specific question. I don't know if you can

question. I don't know if you can >> this is a very good question. Um

>> this is a very good question. Um as far as I know from the current coffin

as far as I know from the current coffin they must be employed by one institution

they must be employed by one institution throughout the entire duration of the

throughout the entire duration of the fellowship.

fellowship. Now if they have seconments in um in the

Now if they have seconments in um in the at the venue of an associate associated

at the venue of an associate associated partner then this is encouraged and

partner then this is encouraged and welcome but as far as I know they must

welcome but as far as I know they must have only one employment contract.

have only one employment contract. Again, this is something that we should

Again, this is something that we should probably check also with our legal

probably check also with our legal officers to see if it's possible that

officers to see if it's possible that throughout the implementation of their

throughout the implementation of their contracts, given it's a longer duration

contracts, given it's a longer duration that the current coffant they may be

that the current coffant they may be switching but again

switching but again um please mind you that they must go

um please mind you that they must go through recruitment and selection

through recruitment and selection process. So I would rather say no at

process. So I would rather say no at this stage because um being employed by

this stage because um being employed by an implementing partner would mean

an implementing partner would mean according to the rules that they would

according to the rules that they would have to go through another selection and

have to go through another selection and recruitment uh process. So

recruitment uh process. So I would say it's rather no than yes at

I would say it's rather no than yes at this stage.

this stage. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Based on the our experience with the MSE

>> Based on the our experience with the MSE co. So

co. So >> yeah I I think yeah

>> yeah I I think yeah >> I don't think I don't think changing

>> I don't think I don't think changing contracts is possible but again uh

contracts is possible but again uh seconments are welcomed. So being

seconments are welcomed. So being employed by one institution and then

employed by one institution and then going in another as a seconment

going in another as a seconment uh for collaborations for specific um

uh for collaborations for specific um projects and yes of course this is

projects and yes of course this is encouraged always.

encouraged always. >> Yeah but in terms of pooling resources

>> Yeah but in terms of pooling resources that also might be something to look

that also might be something to look into in terms of how those contracts are

into in terms of how those contracts are paid. I think it's going to be difficult

paid. I think it's going to be difficult to monitor at the implementation phase

to monitor at the implementation phase because um they need to uh fill in a

because um they need to uh fill in a mobility declaration online

mobility declaration online >> and once they do that they have to uh

>> and once they do that they have to uh this has to be the result of um

this has to be the result of um organizing uh a call for recruitment. So

organizing uh a call for recruitment. So I would say rather no

I would say rather no >> maybe this deserves another FAQ. Yes, we

>> maybe this deserves another FAQ. Yes, we will definitely [laughter]

will definitely [laughter] >> and this is why we like to do these

>> and this is why we like to do these kinds of presentations cuz we also, you

kinds of presentations cuz we also, you know, get new things that we hadn't

know, get new things that we hadn't necessarily thought about new situations

necessarily thought about new situations specific to an institution. So that that

specific to an institution. So that that helps us to also give better

helps us to also give better >> reality. Yes.

>> reality. Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. So we go to the next uh

>> Okay. Thank you. So we go to the next uh question. If an entity moves to moves

question. If an entity moves to moves the office and bank account uh from a

the office and bank account uh from a country to another both inside the EU uh

country to another both inside the EU uh for example Belgium to France, do they

for example Belgium to France, do they have to ask for a new pick?

>> This is something to be asked uh to the validation service. I think uh

validation service. I think uh >> well I think this will need an amendment

>> well I think this will need an amendment of the grand right if they are changing

of the grand right if they are changing the beneficiaries.

the beneficiaries. >> Yeah. uh they will need an amendment of

>> Yeah. uh they will need an amendment of the grant but I don't see here the

the grant but I don't see here the question related to an amendment um

question related to an amendment um >> so so first in my opinion there will be

>> so so first in my opinion there will be the need to amend the grant there will

the need to amend the grant there will be the inclusion of uh new

be the inclusion of uh new >> if a grant yes I think if a grant is

>> if a grant yes I think if a grant is involved again I don't see here um but

involved again I don't see here um but if a grant is involved yes they will

if a grant is involved yes they will have to amend the grant it it's going to

have to amend the grant it it's going to be um a reassessment I would say but Um

be um a reassessment I would say but Um it depends on the type of grant because

it depends on the type of grant because if we are talking here about the

if we are talking here about the personal fellowships then um it's a

personal fellowships then um it's a different process

different process than uh multi-benficiary project uh than

than uh multi-benficiary project uh than a moneneficiary project. So they need to

a moneneficiary project. So they need to contact their uh project officer and

contact their uh project officer and obtain the information necessary as

obtain the information necessary as which steps they have to go through if

which steps they have to go through if they uh move the the headquarter and the

they uh move the the headquarter and the bank account the office and the bank

bank account the office and the bank account uh to another country.

account uh to another country. So my advice is to get in touch with the

So my advice is to get in touch with the allocated project officer and uh funding

allocated project officer and uh funding and tender portal um to have a clear

and tender portal um to have a clear answer to this question.

answer to this question. Indeed. Yeah. So we continue with the

Indeed. Yeah. So we continue with the next one. Uh can supervisors drop out of

next one. Uh can supervisors drop out of the project and what are the obligations

the project and what are the obligations from for the recruiting organization?

from for the recruiting organization? Yeah,

Yeah, >> it can happen of course that during the

>> it can happen of course that during the implementation I mean we are talking

implementation I mean we are talking about uh six seven years uh projects

about uh six seven years uh projects here so anything can happen they can

here so anything can happen they can have uh suspensions

have uh suspensions because of I don't know um sickness or

because of I don't know um sickness or maternity leave or anything can happen

maternity leave or anything can happen or they can go to another institutions

or they can go to another institutions of uh institution of course so they can

of uh institution of course so they can they can change um uh I mean the

they can change um uh I mean the recruited fellows can can have different

recruited fellows can can have different supervisors uh throughout the

supervisors uh throughout the implementation of their research

implementation of their research projects. They may even opt at some

projects. They may even opt at some point given the the duration. They may

point given the the duration. They may even opt for uh having a supervisor from

even opt for uh having a supervisor from academia during the um first two years

academia during the um first two years and then one from an industrial

and then one from an industrial associate associated partner um during

associate associated partner um during the last two three years of their uh

the last two three years of their uh research projects. So

research projects. So >> Mhm.

>> Mhm. >> I think everything has to be very clear

>> I think everything has to be very clear in the proposal and this has has to be

in the proposal and this has has to be clearly communicated also through uh

clearly communicated also through uh throughout the implementation process

throughout the implementation process with the project officer and approved on

with the project officer and approved on a case- by case basis. But in principle

a case- by case basis. But in principle yes it's it's something that it's part

yes it's it's something that it's part of normal life and the obligations for

of normal life and the obligations for the recruiting organization is to

the recruiting organization is to provide

provide >> is to ensure that at any stage the

>> is to ensure that at any stage the fellows the recruited researchers have

fellows the recruited researchers have the supervisory um um in in for the

the supervisory um um in in for the implementation of the project. Yes.

implementation of the project. Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. I think it's very

>> Okay. Thank you. I think it's very clear. Yeah. So we continue. Um, is

clear. Yeah. So we continue. Um, is there a minimum share for the

there a minimum share for the institution's funds in comparison to EU

institution's funds in comparison to EU funds? Uh, you already have already

funds? Uh, you already have already replied to this question. So maybe we go

replied to this question. So maybe we go to the next one.

to the next one. >> To elaborate on the previous question

>> To elaborate on the previous question about maximum number of apps

about maximum number of apps applications per beneficiary,

applications per beneficiary, universities offer range of subjects

universities offer range of subjects area. So it could be difficult to limit.

area. So it could be difficult to limit. Yeah. what we've because this is

Yeah. what we've because this is something that we we did have already in

something that we we did have already in the 2025

the 2025 um info session that we ran um that you

um info session that we ran um that you know in some cases there's actually

know in some cases there's actually different picks for for different bodies

different picks for for different bodies within the same bigger institution but

within the same bigger institution but in some cases it is really the

in some cases it is really the university um but we we also do I mean

university um but we we also do I mean you you can also apply with positions

you you can also apply with positions not all in the same field um so that

not all in the same field um so that that is also a possibility You don't

that is also a possibility You don't have to have you know a single

have to have you know a single challenge. You can say you know we we

challenge. You can say you know we we would actually like someone who is

would actually like someone who is supporting you know coming in in the in

supporting you know coming in in the in our new biotech lab and also we need

our new biotech lab and also we need someone um to you know we have a human

someone um to you know we have a human resource need as well in our um you know

resource need as well in our um you know environmental mapping um team or

environmental mapping um team or something like that. So so that is also

something like that. So so that is also a possibility. You can have multiple um

a possibility. You can have multiple um different uh positions within the same

different uh positions within the same application. um then it's just a matter

application. um then it's just a matter of making sure to balance and and

of making sure to balance and and explain each of those uh in turn. Um so

explain each of those uh in turn. Um so yeah, but again we we're going to make

yeah, but again we we're going to make sure to check about the uh beneficiary

sure to check about the uh beneficiary the the ability or not of a single

the the ability or not of a single beneficiary to apply for for multiple um

beneficiary to apply for for multiple um grants. So we're going to we're going to

grants. So we're going to we're going to check that and we'll make sure that it's

check that and we'll make sure that it's available in an FAQ. Um but just to say

available in an FAQ. Um but just to say that within one application you can

that within one application you can actually have different types of

actually have different types of positions. Um but yeah the the

positions. Um but yeah the the conditions and the training of course

conditions and the training of course you're you're explaining holistically.

you're you're explaining holistically. >> Thank you. I think we can go to the next

>> Thank you. I think we can go to the next uh question. Is there an update of the

uh question. Is there an update of the allowances unit cost across the MSE?

allowances unit cost across the MSE? Yeah. I think this question also came in

Yeah. I think this question also came in the previous Yeah. So the answer is yes.

the previous Yeah. So the answer is yes. Right.

Right. >> The answer is yes. Yes.

>> The answer is yes. Yes. >> And the information is in the work

>> And the information is in the work program.

program. >> It's all in the work program.

>> It's all in the work program. >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Mhm. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Um next

>> Mhm. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Um next question. what is critical in

question. what is critical in establishing an unbiased selection

establishing an unbiased selection process? Please explain. Yeah. Um

process? Please explain. Yeah. Um I will uh probably I think it's best to

I will uh probably I think it's best to to refrain from going too much into

to refrain from going too much into details because we cannot provide um

details because we cannot provide um actual support for drafting the

actual support for drafting the proposals and we would like to avoid any

proposals and we would like to avoid any interpretation. So I think it's up to

interpretation. So I think it's up to the beneficiary to convince the

the beneficiary to convince the evaluators further assessing their

evaluators further assessing their proposals that what they are um

proposals that what they are um suggesting in terms of selection and

suggesting in terms of selection and recruitment process indeed meets these

recruitment process indeed meets these requirements. So um we provide with the

requirements. So um we provide with the template proposals and the um each

template proposals and the um each criterion and subriterion we provide um

criterion and subriterion we provide um some clarifications. So also what we

some clarifications. So also what we advise the applicants is to consult the

advise the applicants is to consult the guide for applicants because it comes

guide for applicants because it comes with uh additional information compared

with uh additional information compared to the work program and also to uh check

to the work program and also to uh check the FAQ because we are going to provide

the FAQ because we are going to provide provide also clarifications uh but I

provide also clarifications uh but I would refrain from going into more

would refrain from going into more details on the selection process. Thank

details on the selection process. Thank you. Thank you. So we go to the next

you. Thank you. So we go to the next question. Um

question. Um the global gate the global gateway early

the global gate the global gateway early stage investment mechanism is part of

stage investment mechanism is part of the eur

the eur Europe horizon Europe. Um

Europe horizon Europe. Um I

I >> I have no idea.

>> I have no idea. >> So we I don't know about it but we are

>> So we I don't know about it but we are also probably not the right persons to

also probably not the right persons to answer this question. So um or just post

answer this question. So um or just post this question in the research inquiry

this question in the research inquiry system or Yeah. But I don't think so. I

system or Yeah. But I don't think so. I >> don't think so either. I I haven't heard

>> don't think so either. I I haven't heard of it.

of it. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Okay. So we go to the next question and

>> Okay. So we go to the next question and I think we are just going to the la last

I think we are just going to the la last questions in the list. Is a fantastic

questions in the list. Is a fantastic event. A suggestion for next time

event. A suggestion for next time perhaps as our break. Yes. Uh we we have

perhaps as our break. Yes. Uh we we have thought about it but we will consider

thought about it but we will consider for the next time. Thank you very much.

for the next time. Thank you very much. So, next question. Um, MSEA financial

So, next question. Um, MSEA financial regulations for secotments are very

regulations for secotments are very difficult to implement as they do not

difficult to implement as they do not aligned with the national travel rules.

aligned with the national travel rules. Any changes planned for the choose

Any changes planned for the choose Europe initiative? Uh, we

Europe initiative? Uh, we [gasps and sighs] uh well um

first of all, financial regulation for the comments. I'm not sure I I clearly

the comments. I'm not sure I I clearly understand what they mean for um either

understand what they mean for um either they they refer to the duration which uh

they they refer to the duration which uh for the current uh personal fellowships

for the current uh personal fellowships cannot go beyond the one/ird of the

cannot go beyond the one/ird of the length of the employment contract and

length of the employment contract and again this is something that uh remains

again this is something that uh remains to be seen from one case to another

to be seen from one case to another because uh basically the fellows are

because uh basically the fellows are recruited by one institution and they

recruited by one institution and they have the uh to comply with the rules of

have the uh to comply with the rules of the respective institutions in terms of

the respective institutions in terms of traveling ing accommodation and any cost

traveling ing accommodation and any cost related to seconments. If these costs

related to seconments. If these costs are also partly covered by some

are also partly covered by some associated partners then of course it

associated partners then of course it depends on a case by case basis. Um I'm

depends on a case by case basis. Um I'm not sure I can provide a an answer that

not sure I can provide a an answer that is valid for all uh cases. So this again

is valid for all uh cases. So this again has to be discuss discussed with the

has to be discuss discussed with the project officer. Um we don't have any

project officer. Um we don't have any specific change for uh choose Europe for

specific change for uh choose Europe for science and um the general line is we

science and um the general line is we highly encourage seconments because it

highly encourage seconments because it enriches

enriches uh any research project and encourages

uh any research project and encourages networking and um offers many many

networking and um offers many many prospects to the fellows but we don't

prospects to the fellows but we don't have any specific uh financial

have any specific uh financial regulation for second month. I think

regulation for second month. I think there is a clarification

there is a clarification of this question which is there is a

of this question which is there is a fixed amount that needs to be paid for

fixed amount that needs to be paid for the scientists. We can only pay what was

the scientists. We can only pay what was paid. I don't know if this brings some

paid. I don't know if this brings some clarifications

clarifications >> otherwise

>> otherwise I advise to go to the research inquiry

I advise to go to the research inquiry system and and post a question

system and and post a question details.

details. >> Yes, just contact the project officer.

>> Yes, just contact the project officer. I'm not sure I understand what um

I'm not sure I understand what um financial a fixed amount that needs to

financial a fixed amount that needs to be paid to the scientist.

be paid to the scientist. >> Which type of action uh because uh MSEA

>> Which type of action uh because uh MSEA is okay. So we will have more details.

is okay. So we will have more details. Yeah. So we continue um with the two

Yeah. So we continue um with the two last questions. Will A4 long-term

last questions. Will A4 long-term allowances and A5 special needs

allowances and A5 special needs allowance be removed?

allowance be removed? >> No, there was just no space on the

>> No, there was just no space on the slide. I'm sorry that's me. Um

slide. I'm sorry that's me. Um [laughter] it was it was a very busy

[laughter] it was it was a very busy slide, but no, they will not be removed.

slide, but no, they will not be removed. They are still there. Um in case, you

They are still there. Um in case, you know, in case that's required for one of

know, in case that's required for one of the fellows, they can they can be

the fellows, they can they can be applied for. That's that's maya. Um but

applied for. That's that's maya. Um but no, they they will not be removed.

no, they they will not be removed. They're still there.

They're still there. >> I didn't expect this to be spotted.

>> I didn't expect this to be spotted. [laughter]

[laughter] >> Very good eye.

>> Very good eye. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Thank you. And then the last question,

>> Thank you. And then the last question, um

um is it true that the choose for science

is it true that the choose for science call 2027 means that there will be no

call 2027 means that there will be no goof post-doctoral programs call

goof post-doctoral programs call anymore? I think you all already

anymore? I think you all already answered. We covered it. So in 2027,

answered. We covered it. So in 2027, there's no co-und post-doctoral um

there's no co-und post-doctoral um program. There is the choose your first

program. There is the choose your first science 2027 call. Um but yeah, for the

science 2027 call. Um but yeah, for the future, it's it's really still being

future, it's it's really still being built.

built. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm. Okay, I think we finished here with all

Okay, I think we finished here with all the questions. Thank you very much once

the questions. Thank you very much once more and Daniela. And uh maybe we go to

more and Daniela. And uh maybe we go to the next uh and last point and probably

the next uh and last point and probably we will need a couple of minutes here

we will need a couple of minutes here until our next speaker come.

until our next speaker come. >> Toilet break

>> Toilet break >> you are lucky. No. [laughter]

>> you are lucky. No. [laughter] Uh no. Um so the last point is about the

Uh no. Um so the last point is about the two factor authentication in the portal

two factor authentication in the portal and I have here with me uh Maria science

and I have here with me uh Maria science peris. Yeah. uh I think it will be a

peris. Yeah. uh I think it will be a short presentation but this is something

short presentation but this is something that it's coming it will be mandatory

that it's coming it will be mandatory for all users of the portal so it's very

for all users of the portal so it's very interesting information that we should

interesting information that we should pass so Maria please the floor is yours

pass so Maria please the floor is yours thank you Isabelle thank you for having

thank you Isabelle thank you for having invited me to this um to this session as

invited me to this um to this session as Isabelle said my name is Maria S and for

Isabelle said my name is Maria S and for those who don't know know me I'm here

those who don't know know me I'm here today as part of the family and tender

today as part of the family and tender portal team I'm here today to explain

portal team I'm here today to explain you the mandatory use of the two-factor

you the mandatory use of the two-factor authentication and the gradual rollout.

authentication and the gradual rollout. We have been speaking about the

We have been speaking about the two-factor authentication already for

two-factor authentication already for two years. We have produced the

two years. We have produced the necessary information and trainings and

necessary information and trainings and guidance and we have published

guidance and we have published everything on the family and this

everything on the family and this portal. You will find all information

portal. You will find all information under the IT how to. Last year also we

under the IT how to. Last year also we had two dedicated sessions, two webinars

had two dedicated sessions, two webinars to the mandatory use of the two factor

to the mandatory use of the two factor authentication.

authentication. So today I will give you an overview or

So today I will give you an overview or of where we are with the technical

of where we are with the technical enforcement of the gradual rollout but I

enforcement of the gradual rollout but I will perhaps refer to all these

will perhaps refer to all these trainings uh materials and tutorials if

trainings uh materials and tutorials if any very technical and specific question

any very technical and specific question arise.

arise. So before

Yes. It's coming back. Yeah. So you have to use this here. Ah, this one. Yeah.

to use this here. Ah, this one. Yeah. Sorry.

Sorry. Sorry. So as I was saying um today I

Sorry. So as I was saying um today I will tell you why do we need this two

will tell you why do we need this two factor authentication for accessing the

factor authentication for accessing the portal who will be the users involved at

portal who will be the users involved at this enforcement and uh how we are going

this enforcement and uh how we are going to do it. Uh the family tenders portal

to do it. Uh the family tenders portal with its uh more than 2 million

with its uh more than 2 million registered users is the most visited

registered users is the most visited page in the Europa domain. The funding

page in the Europa domain. The funding and tenders portal has without without

and tenders portal has without without doubt a purpose of publishing call for

doubt a purpose of publishing call for proposals. But this but the

proposals. But this but the functionalities of the funding and

functionalities of the funding and tenders portal go well beyond this

tenders portal go well beyond this fabation purposes and it's also a very

fabation purposes and it's also a very transactional tool. We upload on the

transactional tool. We upload on the portal information at data which

portal information at data which contains personal data and commercial

contains personal data and commercial data that could be of interest for

data that could be of interest for intruders and cyber criminals. Uh this

intruders and cyber criminals. Uh this information contained in your proposals,

information contained in your proposals, grants, contracts and profiles is

grants, contracts and profiles is considered by the commission as

considered by the commission as sensitive non-classified. It is not

sensitive non-classified. It is not secret but is sensitive. In addition,

secret but is sensitive. In addition, many of our contracts and actions are

many of our contracts and actions are collaborative. So users are able to

collaborative. So users are able to share information with other users. For

share information with other users. For these two reasons, simple pass password

these two reasons, simple pass password protection plus the username is not

protection plus the username is not secure enough. And according to the

secure enough. And according to the commission standards, we must enforce

commission standards, we must enforce the two factor authentication method as

the two factor authentication method as a method for accessing the funding

a method for accessing the funding attendance portal.

for whom uh any user of the portal who has access to the information as I just

has access to the information as I just explained will be obliged to use this

explained will be obliged to use this two factor authentication. It will be

two factor authentication. It will be namely for leaders and account

namely for leaders and account administrators, legal and financial

administrators, legal and financial signatories, coordinators, tax managers

signatories, coordinators, tax managers and experts. This list is perhaps not

and experts. This list is perhaps not 100% complete but it already gives you a

100% complete but it already gives you a flavor of the users who will be involved

flavor of the users who will be involved in the two factor authentication

in the two factor authentication um mandatory use.

We are doing it gradually because with this 2 million users we cannot do it on

this 2 million users we cannot do it on a one go. It will be mandar in the first

a one go. It will be mandar in the first quarter of 2026. It will be doing by

quarter of 2026. It will be doing by batches and it will concern users

batches and it will concern users concerned users will be personally and

concerned users will be personally and individually notified in due time for

individually notified in due time for them to be prepared to use the two-actor

them to be prepared to use the two-actor authentication.

authentication. When it comes to the details

When it comes to the details uh what does two factors mean? uh two

uh what does two factors mean? uh two factors is something that you know in

factors is something that you know in our case in the case of the portal is

our case in the case of the portal is your password and something that you own

your password and something that you own something that you have concretely a

something that you have concretely a device. We have now a four means for you

device. We have now a four means for you to activate the two-factor

to activate the two-factor authentication which are a mobile mobile

authentication which are a mobile mobile device could be a tablet or a smartphone

device could be a tablet or a smartphone and using the EU login app. You can also

and using the EU login app. You can also use the national e ID if you have it.

use the national e ID if you have it. You can also use a special USB security

You can also use a special USB security key or trusted platform. And there is

key or trusted platform. And there is also the possibility of using a pass key

also the possibility of using a pass key on either your mobile or your computer.

on either your mobile or your computer. We have tutorials videos to explain you

We have tutorials videos to explain you these four methods in detail. I'm not

these four methods in detail. I'm not going to show you now the details on how

going to show you now the details on how to technically install these four

to technically install these four methods on your devices. However, I

methods on your devices. However, I invite you to watch the videos if you

invite you to watch the videos if you have any questions and we will go very

have any questions and we will go very quickly to the four of them. So the

quickly to the four of them. So the first and the most common one for the

first and the most common one for the moment is the EU login app. You can

moment is the EU login app. You can install uh the the app on your device

install uh the the app on your device could be a a smartphone or the tablet.

could be a a smartphone or the tablet. You can install the the EU login app and

You can install the the EU login app and use it as a second factor of

use it as a second factor of authentication.

authentication. The second method is using your national

The second method is using your national eid. This could be a very useful methods

eid. This could be a very useful methods method for all of you who don't want to

method for all of you who don't want to use a smartphone. H if you already have

use a smartphone. H if you already have this installed for your activities with

this installed for your activities with the administration of your country that

the administration of your country that could be a very second option for you to

could be a very second option for you to access the funding and tenders portal. I

access the funding and tenders portal. I listed here the

listed here the the countries in the European Union who

the countries in the European Union who has this activated with the portal is 21

has this activated with the portal is 21 member states and le time.

member states and le time. The third option is having a special USB

The third option is having a special USB security key. It's a special USB that

security key. It's a special USB that you can buy or have and install on your

you can buy or have and install on your computer. With this device, you will be

computer. With this device, you will be able to access the portal. It is uh very

able to access the portal. It is uh very useful because you could uh use it

useful because you could uh use it across multiple computers.

across multiple computers. It's another very good option for those

It's another very good option for those of you know wanted to use the smartphone

of you know wanted to use the smartphone and it needs to be both for for each

and it needs to be both for for each user

as a method of authentication. You can also use what we call a reg trusted

also use what we call a reg trusted platform module. It is very easily a

platform module. It is very easily a chip that nowadays is in most of the

chip that nowadays is in most of the modern computers. It helps to keep the

modern computers. It helps to keep the access to the computer secure. I'm

access to the computer secure. I'm pretty sure you do it every morning when

pretty sure you do it every morning when you open your computer. You have to

you open your computer. You have to either enter a pin h use um recognition

either enter a pin h use um recognition of your face or use a finger pit. This

of your face or use a finger pit. This method that you use to open your

method that you use to open your computer computer can also be used for

computer computer can also be used for accessing the portal with a two-actor

accessing the portal with a two-actor authentication.

authentication. It is very useful because the same mode

It is very useful because the same mode you use for accessing your computer can

you use for accessing your computer can be used for the portal and you know you

be used for the portal and you know you don't need to have a separate device.

don't need to have a separate device. It works in the different operating

It works in the different operating systems in Windows, Apple and Linux. And

systems in Windows, Apple and Linux. And as I said in the dedicated material, you

as I said in the dedicated material, you will find how to install it correctly on

will find how to install it correctly on your computer.

your computer. The fourth possibility is register a

The fourth possibility is register a pass key on your device. It is a very

pass key on your device. It is a very robust security method and uses

robust security method and uses cryptographic keys. H it's very easy to

cryptographic keys. H it's very easy to set up and once it's set up is very easy

set up and once it's set up is very easy to use. You can install it either on

to use. You can install it either on your mobile fi device or your computer

your mobile fi device or your computer and you can do it through your mobile

and you can do it through your mobile device or your computer.

So these are in a nutshell the four different methods for activating the two

different methods for activating the two factor

factor the two factor on your computers on your

the two factor on your computers on your on your devices. As I said, we started

on your devices. As I said, we started the gradual roll out in December 2025

the gradual roll out in December 2025 with a pilot. We involved at the time

with a pilot. We involved at the time 1,000

1,000 leers and account administrators and

leers and account administrators and also 50 evaluator evaluation experts. Up

also 50 evaluator evaluation experts. Up to the moment the this first exercise

to the moment the this first exercise has been very successful. We haven't

has been very successful. We haven't received um a lot of problems and we

received um a lot of problems and we have a very positive feedback. In

have a very positive feedback. In January 2026, we are launching the

January 2026, we are launching the second the second phase of the gradual

second the second phase of the gradual rollout. We are involving this time one

rollout. We are involving this time one one,300

one,300 experts. And for all these experts who

experts. And for all these experts who have already received the notifications,

have already received the notifications, the access to the portal will be

the access to the portal will be mandatory through 2FA as of the 27th of

mandatory through 2FA as of the 27th of January. This is to say in one week

January. This is to say in one week time. We are aiming at making the access

time. We are aiming at making the access to the portal compulsory for all users

to the portal compulsory for all users by the end of the first quarter of 2026.

by the end of the first quarter of 2026. So this is a call for action for you. If

So this is a call for action for you. If you are one of the users that manages

you are one of the users that manages information that is uh categorized as

information that is uh categorized as sensitive nonclassified, you will be you

sensitive nonclassified, you will be you will be having to activate the 2FA for

will be having to activate the 2FA for using the part from now to the end of

using the part from now to the end of the first quarter of 2026.

the first quarter of 2026. What happens after the enforcement of

What happens after the enforcement of the 2FA? If you receive a notification

the 2FA? If you receive a notification telling you that at the certain moment

telling you that at the certain moment you will have to use 2FA to access the

you will have to use 2FA to access the portal. What will happen if you have

portal. What will happen if you have already activated it on your login on on

already activated it on your login on on your on your account and you have done

your on your account and you have done it through the portal, you already have

it through the portal, you already have the three security questions h enable

the three security questions h enable enabling you to access the portal. So no

enabling you to access the portal. So no action for you is needed. The only thing

action for you is needed. The only thing is that you if you disable the 2FA the

is that you if you disable the 2FA the your access to the portal will be

your access to the portal will be blocked. In other words, you will be

blocked. In other words, you will be able to access the portal only using 2FA

able to access the portal only using 2FA app of this m moment.

app of this m moment. For those user having activated the 2FA

For those user having activated the 2FA via other applications or directly via

via other applications or directly via the EU login, they will be prompted to

the EU login, they will be prompted to introduce three security questions. They

introduce three security questions. They will have to tell us which are the three

will have to tell us which are the three security questions which are an

security questions which are an enhancement of security of the funding

enhancement of security of the funding antenna.

antenna. If you have not activated the 2 FA by

If you have not activated the 2 FA by the time in which it will be compulsory

the time in which it will be compulsory for you, your access to the fun and

for you, your access to the fun and tender portal factions will be blocked

tender portal factions will be blocked and you will be you will have to

and you will be you will have to activate it to regain access to the

activate it to regain access to the portal.

portal. So here are some pieces of important

So here are some pieces of important advice. uh we always recommend users to

advice. uh we always recommend users to register more than one second factor so

that if you miss or lose one of them you can you can have an alternative. We also

can you can have an alternative. We also ask you to store the free security

ask you to store the free security questions and answers in a secure place

questions and answers in a secure place for obvious reasons. If one second

for obvious reasons. If one second factor gets lost remove it immediately

factor gets lost remove it immediately from the portal from the EU login

from the portal from the EU login account. If all your second factor get

account. If all your second factor get lost, you must press the panic button

lost, you must press the panic button please. And you can register new second

please. And you can register new second factors by replying the three security

factors by replying the three security questions. If all your second factors

questions. If all your second factors and the replies to the three security

and the replies to the three security questions are lost, please press the

questions are lost, please press the panic button and contact immediately the

panic button and contact immediately the services desk to for for us to

services desk to for for us to identify your identity and make you

identify your identity and make you regain access to our portal.

regain access to our portal. Last but not least, I added here all the

Last but not least, I added here all the links to as uh all the support videos

links to as uh all the support videos and tutorials we have already produced.

and tutorials we have already produced. You will find also uh the recordings to

You will find also uh the recordings to the webinars uh relating the dedicated

the webinars uh relating the dedicated sessions to the use of the two-factor

sessions to the use of the two-factor authentication for the portal. Erh you

authentication for the portal. Erh you will find also the most frequent answers

will find also the most frequent answers and the link direct to the help desk if

and the link direct to the help desk if you have any issues. Also as a piece of

you have any issues. Also as a piece of of information we have created a

of information we have created a dedicated help desk for the questions

dedicated help desk for the questions relating to the activation of the two

relating to the activation of the two factor authentication.

factor authentication. Now I'm happy to take your questions if

Now I'm happy to take your questions if you have.

you have. >> Thank you. Thank you Maria. I think we

>> Thank you. Thank you Maria. I think we don't have questions. I don't ah yes we

don't have questions. I don't ah yes we do. Yeah. So you will have I I wasn't

do. Yeah. So you will have I I wasn't seeing in the mobile. So you have plenty

seeing in the mobile. So you have plenty of questions Maria. So let's uh go

of questions Maria. So let's uh go through then. Uh first one has the

through then. Uh first one has the situation of grants officers being

situation of grants officers being considered if more than one person needs

considered if more than one person needs access or if a single account is being

access or if a single account is being used by more than one person.

used by more than one person. >> We have uh thank you for the question.

>> We have uh thank you for the question. We have received this question in many

We have received this question in many in in in many different occasions. As

in in in many different occasions. As you know uh as per the

you know uh as per the the terms and conditions of the funding

the terms and conditions of the funding and tenders portal, one single account

and tenders portal, one single account could never be used for more than one

could never be used for more than one person. And we always refer to the

person. And we always refer to the different options of uh delegation of

different options of uh delegation of roles that are already available on the

roles that are already available on the on our systems for you to better better

on our systems for you to better better give access to different persons to the

give access to different persons to the same to this for the for the grant

same to this for the for the grant offices.

offices. >> Yeah, I think it's clear it's not a

>> Yeah, I think it's clear it's not a practice that is recommended. It's not

practice that is recommended. It's not even allowed by the terms and conditions

even allowed by the terms and conditions of of the portal. So we just recommend

of of the portal. So we just recommend you to stop using this practice as we

you to stop using this practice as we have mentioned many times in our

have mentioned many times in our webinar.

webinar. >> To perhaps better explore the options of

>> To perhaps better explore the options of of delegating and subdelegating the

of delegating and subdelegating the roles.

roles. >> Yeah, thank you. So we go to the next

>> Yeah, thank you. So we go to the next one. Is it possible to have the

one. Is it possible to have the authenticator app on two separated uh

authenticator app on two separated uh devices? [clears throat]

devices? [clears throat] Uh I the I I I think you are uh when you

Uh I the I I I think you are uh when you mention the authenticator app I guess

mention the authenticator app I guess you are speaking about the EU login app

you are speaking about the EU login app our app because uh just as a kind of

our app because uh just as a kind of reminder the the one-time authenticator

reminder the the one-time authenticator is not one of our uh methods of

is not one of our uh methods of authenticator authentication sorry so

authenticator authentication sorry so you can have the au the e login app

you can have the au the e login app in your telephone you you can have it

in your telephone you you can have it twice If your telephone has what we call

twice If your telephone has what we call a dual application system, some some

a dual application system, some some telephones like Android have this way of

telephones like Android have this way of having the app installed twice on your

having the app installed twice on your device.

device. Okay, thank you Maria. So we go to the

Okay, thank you Maria. So we go to the next question. H maybe off topic. The

next question. H maybe off topic. The Leer is involved in many communications

Leer is involved in many communications but cannot access company proposals

but cannot access company proposals info. Why not granting Leah uh read only

info. Why not granting Leah uh read only permission for anything?

permission for anything? >> We have al also received this kind of

>> We have al also received this kind of questions. We were examining at the

questions. We were examining at the moment but uh as the proposals have uh

moment but uh as the proposals have uh uh commercial information and personal

uh commercial information and personal data information it's not uh it's not uh

data information it's not uh it's not uh we we are still considering how to do it

we we are still considering how to do it if ever this could be done but if it's

if ever this could be done but if it's not done it's because of uh personal

not done it's because of uh personal data and commercial data. Okay, thank

data and commercial data. Okay, thank you. So, next question. What options are

you. So, next question. What options are there for two factor authentication

there for two factor authentication without using a smartphone app? I think

without using a smartphone app? I think you already explained but

you already explained but >> I already explained but I can tell you

>> I already explained but I can tell you which is my favorite one if I can is

which is my favorite one if I can is using the two the trusted platform

using the two the trusted platform method if you have a computer that I

method if you have a computer that I guess you might have if you use the

guess you might have if you use the portal is the is really the simplest way

portal is the is really the simplest way of accessing the portal with the two

of accessing the portal with the two factor because you use this pin or the

factor because you use this pin or the fingers or the face recognition every

fingers or the face recognition every day and and this method can also be used

day and and this method can also be used for accessing the portal.

for accessing the portal. Thank you. So next question I think is

Thank you. So next question I think is technical. I don't know if you will be

technical. I don't know if you will be able to answer but let's try registering

able to answer but let's try registering a pass key. Can the EU just use TOTP as

a pass key. Can the EU just use TOTP as all others? PG with the privacy and the

all others? PG with the privacy and the TOTP is this one time authenticator and

TOTP is this one time authenticator and the commission cannot use it. It was uh

the commission cannot use it. It was uh it was analyzed but discarded because

it was analyzed but discarded because it's not secure for us. It's not secure

it's not secure for us. It's not secure enough for the commission. in the

enough for the commission. in the pipeline. There is a a discussion on

pipeline. There is a a discussion on perhaps creating an TOTP for the

perhaps creating an TOTP for the commission but it's not yet uh it's not

commission but it's not yet uh it's not yet even we don't have a timeline for

yet even we don't have a timeline for that but the use of TOTP is discarded by

that but the use of TOTP is discarded by the security measures of the commission.

the security measures of the commission. Thank you. So next question um when you

Thank you. So next question um when you have a single phone you cannot access

have a single phone you cannot access both your personal account and your

both your personal account and your professional account. Could you suggest

professional account. Could you suggest a solution? Yeah. Yes, first I would try

a solution? Yeah. Yes, first I would try to see if you can install the app too.

to see if you can install the app too. If twice if you have what we call the

If twice if you have what we call the dual application system. If you cannot

dual application system. If you cannot do that, I would advise to use the h the

do that, I would advise to use the h the smartphone with the EU login app as one

smartphone with the EU login app as one method and other method install a pass

method and other method install a pass key like this. You can use the the the

key like this. You can use the the the mobile with a pass key and the EU login

mobile with a pass key and the EU login app. That would be a solution. Other

app. That would be a solution. Other solution is installing two pass keys on

solution is installing two pass keys on your mobile app without the EU login

your mobile app without the EU login app.

app. Thank you. So, next question. What is an

Thank you. So, next question. What is an EID? Yeah.

EID? Yeah. >> Yes. an an electronic identity identity

>> Yes. an an electronic identity identity card is the national the national in in

card is the national the national in in in some member states they have a e e

in some member states they have a e e administration and they have eids with

administration and they have eids with uh we have identity cards with with an

uh we have identity cards with with an electronic device with a chip and they

electronic device with a chip and they can use it to access the services of the

can use it to access the services of the administration. So the European

administration. So the European Commission has contacted all these

Commission has contacted all these countries and we can use also this

countries and we can use also this method to access the portal.

method to access the portal. >> Thank you. So next question from one

>> Thank you. So next question from one from what date will be the two factor

from what date will be the two factor authentication be mandatory for

authentication be mandatory for coordinator contact as I think you

coordinator contact as I think you already mentioned but maybe

already mentioned but maybe >> I mentioned that we are targeting the

>> I mentioned that we are targeting the first of the end of the first quarter

first of the end of the first quarter 2026

2026 uh as we are doing pilots barbatches I

uh as we are doing pilots barbatches I can I don't know exactly when it will be

can I don't know exactly when it will be for your for your for a coordinate okay

for your for your for a coordinate okay >> yeah So next uh question after losing my

>> yeah So next uh question after losing my phone I had to contact support. Is this

phone I had to contact support. Is this intended or should we go for a three

intended or should we go for a three factor redundant approach? Can we

factor redundant approach? Can we register nonphone devices? I think you

also explained uh I I'm not sure I understand the first

uh I I'm not sure I understand the first question but uh you can register

question but uh you can register nonphone devices. You can register a

nonphone devices. You can register a tablet as a second factor of

tablet as a second factor of authentication. You can buy a USB

authentication. You can buy a USB security key. You can also uh use the

security key. You can also uh use the trusted platform on your computer and

trusted platform on your computer and you can put a pass key on your computer

you can put a pass key on your computer plus the eid. So I I think I gave you

plus the eid. So I I think I gave you already four methods without the

already four methods without the smartphone.

smartphone. >> Thank you. Uh next question. Where is

>> Thank you. Uh next question. Where is the panic button?

the panic button? >> The panic button is under, if I'm not

>> The panic button is under, if I'm not mistaken, under security settings on

mistaken, under security settings on your EU login account. But uh it's very

your EU login account. But uh it's very it's explaining the it how to I don't

it's explaining the it how to I don't remember by heart exactly how to access

remember by heart exactly how to access but it's under the security settings of

but it's under the security settings of your login.

your login. Next question. Grant's office uh your

Next question. Grant's office uh your previous answer was that you were

previous answer was that you were developing the possibility to add remove

developing the possibility to add remove one contact person to all project at

one contact person to all project at once. Is it now available? We are

once. Is it now available? We are considering how to um how to

considering how to um how to visualize uh all the roles of a person

visualize uh all the roles of a person in in all projects at once. Yes, we are

in in all projects at once. Yes, we are we have this and in the pipeline.

we have this and in the pipeline. >> Thank you. Next question. When you are

>> Thank you. Next question. When you are an expert and you are also part of an

an expert and you are also part of an institutions

institutions uh you need two accounts on a single

uh you need two accounts on a single phone you cannot access two accounts. I

phone you cannot access two accounts. I think we already replied to this

think we already replied to this question. You can either have with your

question. You can either have with your phone what we call the dual system

phone what we call the dual system application. If your phone doesn't

application. If your phone doesn't allows you to do so, you can upload the

allows you to do so, you can upload the EU login app and install a pass key or

EU login app and install a pass key or or alternative alternatively

or alternative alternatively having two pass keys.

having two pass keys. >> Uh thank you. So again grants office

>> Uh thank you. So again grants office please first implement the possibility

please first implement the possibility to add remove a contact person to all

to add remove a contact person to all projects at once before making two

projects at once before making two factor a identification mandatory we

factor a identification mandatory we just take note we don't think it will be

just take note we don't think it will be possible but we take notes yeah um next

possible but we take notes yeah um next question if your national eid needs

question if your national eid needs authentication via smart smartphone it

authentication via smart smartphone it seems there is no advantage with regards

seems there is no advantage with regards to using the EU login app and in terms

to using the EU login app and in terms of security

of security Indeed, if you want to avoid using the

Indeed, if you want to avoid using the smartphone and your national

smartphone and your national administration ask you to have a

administration ask you to have a smartphone is not the best solution for

smartphone is not the best solution for you. We don't we don't we don't manage

you. We don't we don't we don't manage nor monitor how the national

nor monitor how the national administrations have their second factor

administrations have their second factor of authentication. If uh and I would in

of authentication. If uh and I would in this case for you I would uh um suggest

this case for you I would uh um suggest to go for one of the other options.

>> Thank you. So next one. How long before enforcing 2FA will will the specific

enforcing 2FA will will the specific users be notified?

users be notified? >> Between 10 and 15 days. This is what we

>> Between 10 and 15 days. This is what we are doing.

are doing. >> Thank you. Uh to press the panic button,

>> Thank you. Uh to press the panic button, you need to connect to your account. But

you need to connect to your account. But how can you do it if you lost all your

how can you do it if you lost all your SEC factors?

SEC factors? Uh I frankly don't know. I this but this

Uh I frankly don't know. I this but this is explained in the I don't remember by

is explained in the I don't remember by heart. I mean this is something it's

heart. I mean this is something it's explained in the IT how to I would I we

explained in the IT how to I would I we will come back to you if you don't find

will come back to you if you don't find it explicitly mentioned in the IT how to

it explicitly mentioned in the IT how to >> but it's perfectly possible to do it is

>> but it's perfectly possible to do it is possible to

possible to >> thing is that we don't know

>> thing is that we don't know >> but you you will find the information in

>> but you you will find the information in in the IT how to yeah

in the IT how to yeah >> um next one what are the technical

>> um next one what are the technical requirements for using pass key on the

requirements for using pass key on the key itself but also uh operating system

key itself but also uh operating system and web browser house.

>> I know that the technical requirements for using a pass key are explained in

for using a pass key are explained in the IT how to. There are also different

the IT how to. There are also different uh depending on the different uh

uh depending on the different uh operating system. So please I would ask

operating system. So please I would ask you to to refer to this part of the IT

you to to refer to this part of the IT how to

how to thank you. Um next one um I am trying to

thank you. Um next one um I am trying to add a trusted platform. It asks for a

add a trusted platform. It asks for a device name in a text box that does not

device name in a text box that does not allow me to write anything and therefore

allow me to write anything and therefore it does not work. So maybe you contact

it does not work. So maybe you contact the help desk because probably this is a

the help desk because probably this is a technical issue. Yeah. So we go to the

technical issue. Yeah. So we go to the next one. Is the purchase of keys and

next one. Is the purchase of keys and password subscriptions an eligible

password subscriptions an eligible eligible cost? And the answer is no.

eligible cost? And the answer is no. Right?

Right? >> I I'm I'm not sure. I think this no this

>> I I'm I'm not sure. I think this no this is a question that we we pass to the to

is a question that we we pass to the to the lawyers. Okay. So, but we don't have

the lawyers. Okay. So, but we don't have the answer yet. So, we will uh as soon

the answer yet. So, we will uh as soon as we have an answer, we will publish it

as we have an answer, we will publish it in in in the portal as an FAQ and part

in in in the portal as an FAQ and part of the documentation of the two parts.

of the documentation of the two parts. >> H and we have the last question. We are

>> H and we have the last question. We are alerting about the situation of grants

alerting about the situation of grants office for years. So, answer that no

office for years. So, answer that no development possible before to F8

development possible before to F8 difficult to hear. Yeah, but it's also

difficult to hear. Yeah, but it's also um we had been also very clear since the

um we had been also very clear since the start of the portal that it's not a good

start of the portal that it's not a good practice to use the same account for

practice to use the same account for various persons but we take note of the

various persons but we take note of the problem and we are aware and we will do

problem and we are aware and we will do as much as we can do to solve it. Yeah,

as much as we can do to solve it. Yeah, >> I don't well we cannot produce a

>> I don't well we cannot produce a solution that is against the compliance

solution that is against the compliance of the terms and conditions. So we are

of the terms and conditions. So we are doing our best to to be attentive to

doing our best to to be attentive to your needs but also we have to really

your needs but also we have to really comply with the terms of use of the

comply with the terms of use of the port.

port. >> Yes. Um but we take notes yeah on this.

>> Yes. Um but we take notes yeah on this. So I think we have gone through all the

So I think we have gone through all the list of questions. H we don't have more

list of questions. H we don't have more questions. Thank you very much Maria and

questions. Thank you very much Maria and thank you all for watching this event. H

thank you all for watching this event. H we hope it was useful for you. If you

we hope it was useful for you. If you need additional information, please use

need additional information, please use the research inquiry system in the

the research inquiry system in the portal and we will try to answer all the

portal and we will try to answer all the questions that come to us. So, thank you

questions that come to us. So, thank you very much and see you next time.

very much and see you next time. Bye-bye.

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