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This content is a tribute to Trinidad Alemán (Trini), a respected academic and community member, celebrating his life, work, and profound impact on his colleagues, students, and the communities he served. It highlights his dedication to inclusion, respect for diversity, critical thinking, and a science that serves people and the territory.

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Several of the people who

knew him and who accompanied him during

the funeral felt it was necessary to

pay this tribute. Well, now

very quickly. Thank you very much,

because on the one hand we didn't have the

opportunity to be as a

community accompanying the family,

sharing these anecdotes,

these experiences we had with

Trini the last time we saw him, the

funniest or saddest memory we

have, I don't know. That always

helps a lot in processing

the loss, right? And I think that unfortunately, well, it

unfortunately, well, it

was very sudden, and also, the fact that it

happened in Tuxla

prevented many people from being

able to accompany the family and

be in the community. So,

talking with Antonio, we said, let's

organize this tribute, let's get together, let's

talk about what we feel

about the loss of Trinia Alemán and

let's share this feeling as a community so

that we can

say goodbye to him in a certain way, as an

institution, as people.

So, we're going to begin this tribute by, of

tribute by, of course,

course,

reading our manifesto for

inclusion and respect for

cultural diversity and nature, which I

find very meaningful because

Trinia Alemán was precisely one of

the driving forces behind this idea of

inclusion and respect for

cultural diversity and nature. So, in

homage to Trinia Alemán,

at Ecosur we reaffirm our absolute

commitment to respecting the

cultural diversity of the territories and

communities of our country. Promote

the inclusion of all people,

regardless of their

physical or sexual condition. Implement strategies that

ensure gender equality, as well as

caring for nature and respecting all

forms of life on the planet.

We invite those who are with us

to contribute so that together we

can enforce this

protocol of inclusion and respect for

cultural diversity and nature in

our work spaces and daily lives.

daily lives.

Well, next we're going to

project some words of welcome and

a message from Antonio Saldíar Moreno,

who unfortunately already had a

meeting at CESTI in Mexico City

and couldn't join us, but as he

wanted to say goodbye to Trini, he left

Hi how are things? Good morning. I wanted to

take this opportunity to send

warm greetings to the entire

community and in particular to the

family of our dear and esteemed

Trini, who sadly, as you

know, recently passed away.

because of the signs that have been shown towards Trini.

Trini.

I think we all know that he was, in addition to being

a great, committed person, a

great researcher and collaborator with

many communities in the region,

a great person with a great

critical capacity and with a

reflective and proactive attitude at all times.

times.

Unfortunately, I am currently in

Mexico City about to

participate in a session of the

Secretariat's Articulating Council,

but I didn't want to miss the opportunity to send

send a

a message

message

of encouragement to his family and the

community during this tribute to our dear Triny. May

our dear and esteemed Trin rest in peace. See you soon .

Well, we are very grateful to Mari

Hernández, Carlos Eugenio and

Alejandro Alemán Hernández for

joining us. And now we would like to

ask you to say a few words to

share with the community, this

memory, this farewell we are

Thank you.

Hey, good morning everyone. I'm going to

read some words that I

prepared, because emotionally it's going to be

difficult to generate eloquence

in what I say. I want to express my

deepest gratitude to the

Colegio de la Frontera Sur, this

San Cristóbal unit, where

I walked those halls when I was little,

and to all the people who made

this posthumous tribute to my father

and teacher

Thanks also to those who are with us

here and to those who are connected

online. Thank you so much.

This space means a lot to my family and me.

Speaking about my father in this place is

deeply symbolic. Here he found

a community, a territory, and a

purpose for his vocation.

And if anything defined him, it was his conviction

that knowledge cannot be imposed. It is

built through dialogue, based on respect and

shared experience.

My father was a biologist and botanist, but

above all he was a teacher. I believed that

studying nature involved

listening to it, observing it patiently, and

recognizing that we are part of it. He

always defended the dignity of

peasant knowledge. Communities within

communities is a profound collective,

sorry. Convinced that the knowledge that

communities are born from is profound,

collective, and essential to understanding and

caring for life.

His work in Chiapas, in

sheep farming, in the Milpa and in

local production systems was

guided by a clear ethic. Science

should serve the people and the

territory. He never separated

academic rigor from social awareness. For

him, investigating without respect was pointless.

pointless.

As a son, I grew up seeing that consistency

every day. I saw him read, write,

prepare classes, and walk the countryside with

a curiosity that never ran out.

I learned from him that teaching us is not about giving

answers, but about accompanying processes, that

observing is a form of care, and that

true knowledge is always

shared with humility.

Those who were his students and colleagues

know that he taught calmly, without

haste, without imposing anything. I preferred to ask

questions, open paths, and trust in

each person's timing. His legacy

lives on today in those who learned to look

more attentively and to think more responsibly.

As a family, this tribute

deeply comforts us; it

fills us with what does not fill the absence, but

makes it a shared memory. It

reminds us that a life dedicated to

teaching, caring for life, and respecting

people is not lost, it becomes

a legacy. And allow me to speak

from a more personal place.

My father didn't seek to transcend, he sought to be

consistent; he didn't seek recognition, he

sought meaning,

and I believe that without seeking it he left something even

more valuable: a way of living,

teaching, and relating to others

that is still present in many people today.

people today.

Dad, thank you for teaching us to look

slowly, to listen respectfully, and to

walk through life with dignity. As long as

that remains alive, you will be too.

Thank you very much, Carlos Eugenio

In one of the stories of the thousand

nights, when Simbat of the Earth

shows Simb of the Sea the funerals

on the surface, he is offended. He

tells her that there is no reason to cry in front of

the coffin, because the body is a

loan and death is when

we return to God, because we come from him.

My father was not a religious man,

but it would be a mistake to say that he was a

man of little faith. Jesus Christ said, "A

new commandment I give to you, that you love

one another as I have

loved you." My father lived, perhaps without

knowing it, fulfilling the will of the

Lord. He loved his neighbor, he loved the world, and he loved

life. He was critical of everything he

knew: institutions, the

state, religion. But

curiously enough, aren't those who are most critical the

ones who most deeply believe we

can be better? He lived as he preached,

without appearances or tinsel, in a

synchronicity of action and word that

some of us can barely conceive. I am

deeply grateful for the honors bestowed upon him

. Like the funeral of Don José

Arcadio, the magnitude of the tributes

surpasses the simplicity of his life, a

fitting situation for a man whose

greatness of spirit surpassed the humility

Thanks a lot.

Um, I feel like I'm hearing

Trini speak through you, just like the

conversations with him. Well

, now Guillermo is helping us. Yes.

Um, Gansus's academic group, where

his father was, uh, prepared a

video with some photographs. Forward. Hello, everyone.

everyone.

Thank you Alex, Carlos, Mari for

being here. And well, in a very

simple way, we

quickly made an

express video over the weekend, many people sent

photos and well, it's going to

be brief and we want to

present it, but first we wanted to

give you a more meaningful explanation, right? From the

academic group of Sustainable Livestock

and Climate Change, which was the one that in the

last stage of Trini, in the post-pandemic era

, we all interacted strongly

with José Alayón,

Alayón,

several colleagues who are also here

from the agriculture department, right? His

work was essential,

tremendously essential, because it was a

tough time for him health-wise.

But the consistency, energy,

friendship, and optimism

were always present, and that's how we

managed to form a group that is a

collective group, and in some way,

Trini's presence was extremely

important, and now that he has gone

ahead of us, we

have all felt it deeply, but we

are with the idea of moving

forward with all this support from him in

terms of everything he taught us and

contributed, right? So, that was the trini

and less words and let's see the video where we

tried to incorporate some

issues, some photos and at the end there is a

poem that was provided by a colleague

of his, also retired,

Guillermo Montoya, which we thought was very

relevant to include. Exit. Thank you.

Thank you, Guillermo. Uh, sorry,

Guillermo Jiménez, uh,

retired researcher from Cosur. Go ahead, Huguito.

[music]

Upright [music] about

Deluded prisoner [music]

of this everyday jungle. [music]

[music]

And dry clam

[music] Imaginary flight

I sail on the sea

[music]

I'm stuck in moments

[music]

if it were a

sculpted cloud [music] above the sky. I

unsatisfiedly draw

my footprints in the winter [music],

since I did

n't have [music] time to change my life.

The machine has [music] turned me into a

[music]

And although I am the same nut that has

[music]

I know I still have time to hammer [music]

[music]

Caminoático

on [music] a carpet of statues, [music]

[music]

chewing the truths in my mind. [music]

And like a wild wolf

that has lost its way,

I have filled my [music] pockets with

debris from fate. [music]

[music] Placable

Placable

among that labyrinth [music]

of the dead planets [music]

[music]

and as if it were the foam

[music] of a beer commercial.

A [musical] machine has already sold me the

for Trinidad German Santillán. She

gently stretches out her hands and touches

the morning star. He

inhales and his lungs are flooded with the

chants of the stormy Ruis Señor.

He looks at his beloved who shines in the

sky and from there she smiles at him. His thoughts

thoughts

rest on the infinite turquoise ocean

and the intricate

secrets of existence are revealed.

The moon casts light on its path and its

shadow aligns in a synchronous sigh.

synchronous sigh.

The stones flatten under his feet so that he does

not stumble and his gait is impassive

and steady.

The flowers burst into rainbows and

release their magical perfumes to

stimulate and dilate your olfactory taste buds .

The sounds of the firmament, like harps,

compose a winter melody that

warms and envelops her weary soul. The

atmosphere expands his emotions and his

heart swells to

ecstasy. She doesn't cry. The sky does it

for him, pearling its imperceptible teardrops.

teardrops.

No time, timelessness, soothes

his doubts and rejuvenates him like Prometheus.

Pleasurable pain transforms his

existential anguish into eternal joy and has the

bliss of knowing Aristotle, Ptolemy,

Copernicus, Darwin, Mendel, Marx, Lenin,

Gómez Pompa, Pérez Tamayo and the master

Hernández Sholocotzi and an unfathomable multitude.

multitude.

Many thanks to the Gansus group

for this work. This tribute is very beautiful

. Okay, let's start with an activity

activity

we were talking about, remembering it.

Several of Trini's friends arrived and

started telling anecdotes

in the hallway, and I said to them, "Wait, we

have to tell them now for everyone

." Hey Manuel, would you like to help us,

please? Uh, well, uh Manuel Parra

Vázquez, researcher at DASA of Cosur.

Where I would like to recover

Trini's academic side and especially her

critical side. He was a constant critic throughout

his life, as

Carlos already said, right? He was self-critical,

but he also felt like a member of a

community that socially constructed

science. So, his self-criticisms

are actually a criticism of the entire

community, aren't they? I imagine him at home

sitting with his cat, petting his

cat, right? Like Carlos Moncibis did.

Moncibis did.

Monais was his favorite author.

So, a lot of the irony, that

ironic and critical streak, I think

comes from Monsi. Uh,

I met Trini in 1982.

We had just arrived at the school on the

southern border, we already remember it with

Hector Garcia, right? And in one of

his writings he recounts that day when

the ash entered San Cristóbal de las

Casas, right? While at his home in

Huitepec with Hector, it got dark

due to the arrival of the ash and

the sun did not come out for two days.

Then, he carefully recounts that

day after a

fieldwork trip in which Felipe

Catalán, Juan, Juan Manuel Mauricio,

Trini himself, and I had been. And when we arrived in San

Cristóbal, we didn't know that the next

day, at dawn, we would find ourselves surrounded

by the ash of Chichonal.

So, that begins a story, let

's say, of collective work for

more than 40 years.

After an initial stage of research,

research,

he acknowledges in another writing

the progress that was made at the

beginning, that is, the detailed description

of the Chiapas Highlands region, the

description of the

production systems of the family units,

of the natural resources in a stage, let's

say, exploratory,

descriptive where one was just beginning to

know what peasant agriculture was .

After that, uh, at another time,

very early, in 1997,

he makes a critique and distinguishes three schools of thought

schools of thought

on developmentalism, right? Conservationism

Conservationism

and the beginning of peasantry. Yes,

at that time, that is, more

than 25 years ago, he made an initial criticism

that we do not have a methodology to

understand peasant agriculture, right? He

criticizes conservationism

for focusing on the conservation of

natural resources

and agronomists for focusing on

productive development without addressing the

needs of the peasant unit.

peasant unit.

Then, in 1998, in a document

summarizing what we learned in a

multi-year project funded by the Rockefeller Foundation, he says that

we made progress. We moved from a

descriptive phase to an experimental phase and

began trying to bring this

new knowledge, or this fusion of

peasant knowledge with

technical knowledge, to the communities.

And it again indicates that we have no

way, that we have not learned to

communicate with the rural population,

that we have no ways of relating

effectively to them and that

the scientific methodology needs to be enriched,

right? That was kind of a constant, wasn't it? We

went up a step, we saw the

panorama, we haven't arrived yet. Let's move on to the

next step. And the next step,

step,

the next step was the

Redisa project, right? Uh, it's funded by CONASIT,

and at that moment he makes an

institutional critique. He was the

director of outreach at that time, and

he analyzed the

institutional restrictions, how the very

structure of Ecosur, right?,

limits the possibilities of

research, not only of Ecosur, but

of academic institutions.

And he considered at that moment that the

idea with which we had started, of

achieving a socio-environmental innovation,

right? We were wrong because

our idea was that

technical innovation would bring about the

development of rural areas, and he

says, "It's not like that, it's the other way around.

First, we have to make a

social change to achieve technical development,

and a social change that involves not only

the community, but also the

institutions and

civil society organizations that are working in

a territory and that have the

capacity to support the development of

peasant agriculture."

Back in 2022,

in the journal of ethnobiology, he

made a very strong critique of ethnoscience,

ethnoscience,

defended by several biologist colleagues, and

he made a specific critique of

agroecological research. That is, he

pointed out that at that time there was no

valid knowledge that understood the epistemological,

epistemological,

ontological, and methodological differences of

peasant thought. And he recognizes that it

is peasant thought and that there is a

peasant method of

knowledge development, right? So, we haven't

achieved that articulation between the

scientific method and the peasant method.

So, he leaves us with a task at

this moment, one that makes us look to the future.

We have a lot of work to do. Right?

So, thank you very much to critic Trini.

Thank you very much, Manuel. Well, we also

asked José Na Toral from DASA, also

Good morning, colleagues.

Thank you very much for being here.

Since I'm old-fashioned, I

opted to use the podium here because I have this written down

, right? I don't have it

on my phone or computer. So

, thank you very much, and thank you to Mari,

Alejandro, and Carlos for being here.

Our deepest affection and we are with you

Dear colleagues

, friends, and family

of Trini.

Today we gather as a community to

do something that isn't easy: to stop, to

to stop, to

stop our routines, our projects, our schedules,

schedules,

to acknowledge

an absence that is painful

, that weighs heavily, and that hurts, I'm sorry.

sorry.

On December 11th of this year,

at 12:36 a.m.,

a.m.,

our colleague and friend Trinidad Alemán, an

Alemán, an

academic at Cosur, San Cristóbal Unit, passed away naturally.

I appreciate the presence of several former colleagues

attending this event, such as

engineer Héctor García,

Dr. José Pastor Pedraza,

engineer Dimas Montoya,

and surely others I don't

know or didn't get to know very

well. But the people I mentioned

were a group who were very

close since

Trini's arrival here in San Cristóbal de las Casas in 1982.

Casas in 1982.

This is not merely a formal ceremony; it is

a collective space to honor Trini's life, work,

work,

and presence among us.

who was genuinely present—

present in academic discussions,

in collective processes,

in theoretical, methodological, and conceptual questions.

In hallway conversations, Trini

didn't occupy space; he

Our always kind, respectful,

respectful, supportive,

supportive,

and fair Trini

was and will be a fundamental role model for many of us

. He did

n't need to impose himself. His authority

came from the coherence between what he

thought, said,

and did. Trini had With four

fundamental principles,

based on

how I knew him

in his personal and professional life: honesty,

honesty,

discipline, kindness, and efficiency. Honesty

in how he approached each topic, discipline

discipline

that led him to sustain

long and complex processes, kindness

with which he received different ideas and

treated everyone well every day, and efficiency

understood not as haste, but as a

real commitment

to the results and to the social groups.

social groups.

In academia, Trini was deeply participatory,

participatory, analytical,

analytical,

critical, and proactive. He did

n't remain in the realm of

sterile criticism. He

always went a step further,

seeking possible paths, building

alternatives. He was a staunch advocate

of participatory action research

and particularly

of field schools

because he believed in

a science with and for the people.

For Trini, knowledge was

meaningless if it didn't engage with local knowledge, if it did

local knowledge, if it did

n't strengthen collective processes, if it did

n't help navigate realities.

For Trini, research wasn't about extracting information; it

information; it

was about walking alongside others, listening,

learning, and giving back.

Many of the processes that are still

alive today at Ecosur bear his mark in some way .

Those who Those of us who worked alongside her know that

Trini didn't see research as

an individual endeavor. She

knew how to listen, how to support, how to

sustain; she had her own unique way

of asking questions and initiating conversations and discussions.

discussions.

But today we remember not only the academic, but also the

academic, but also the

colleague, the friend,

the approachable, generous, and

humorous Trini, who knew how to support

without intruding, how to offer opinions without dismissing, and how to offer support

without seeking the limelight.

Her absence is painful precisely

These words are not a final farewell, but

final farewell, but

an act of recognition,

because Trini hasn't truly left us

. She remains in the ideas she planted,

planted,

in the people she mentored, in the

processes she helped build, and

in the ethics she

put into practice. To say that Trini is

part of the river that flows from yesterday is to

acknowledge that her work is part of

a broader history, that of an institution

institution

committed to social,

environmental, and human issues, and that river continues to flow.

flow.

Today, as the Ecosur community,

we choose to honor her memory freely.

We choose to remember her. May her memory

be a source of strength, for it inspires us to work.

With balance.

Love, because he showed us that respect

is also a way of doing science;

abundance, because he shared knowledge

knowledge

without stinginess;

and presence,

because he continues to accompany us in every

ethical decision we make.

To those of us who shared projects,

classrooms, territories, and friendship with him, to

those who feel his absence

more keenly today, I embrace you with

respect and solidarity.

Thank you for helping us

move forward. Thank you forever, for everything.

everything.

May this private tribute not close his

story, but rather commit us

to continue it. Greetings,

Greetings,

Trini, as he used to sign off

in his messages.

Now I just want to share an

anecdote, but since I sometimes

forget many things, I had to write it down

so as not to let him down, right? So here it is .

One day, Trini told me, when you

first arrived at the socioeconomic area

of SES, in August 1982,

to work with Professor

Manuel Parra's group,

located where Café La Selva is now in

San Cristóbal, You arrived well-dressed and well-groomed,

well-groomed,

with your briefcase in hand,

and you asked me, "Could you

please tell me where I can find Professor Manuel Parra?"

Parra?" Trini

pointed out where

Manuel was and then said, "I ran over

to tell the other

colleagues in the group, 'Get to work

because we've got a really

young supervisor from CONASIT.'" Well, I was 23 or

And we just burst out laughing when

he told me, because that young guy

wasn't a CONASIT supervisor at all,

but just a new colleague , a

, a

party buddy, and a lifelong friend.

Rest in peace, Trinidad. Thank you.

Thank you very much, José. Uh, Eduardo

Oh,

well, uh, I apologize because, well,

since the organization has been so quick,

some things are going to have to be

adjusted. Well, we asked Héctor García

García

Suárez, Juárez, sorry,

Thank you. Good morning.

I was a close friend of Trini's

practically from the moment he arrived

here at the

Southeast Ecological Research Center.

He came with the team led by

Professor Roberto Parra, from the

projects that had already been developed by

the team that had been here at the

Southeast Ecological Research Center,

in what was called

agricultural development. The

sheep farming project emerged, and there was a desire to

work on

very good interdisciplinary projects. At that time,

the team was being formed, and

José was arriving,

I think Lorena was arriving, I don't remember,

Luz María,

Héctor Placencia, Blanca,

uh, they were people who were coming together,

together,

Luna, Fortanelli,

and we were still at Cuauhtémoc 10,

with the facilities, and we

moved, and I was there for the move to

these facilities that used to be for

health services, and then we

were here. I was

fortunate enough to have

arrived at the facilities at that time

because we were between

there and Here and out here,

right where we came in and

the policeman stopped us, there was

someone hitchhiking. I was in my little

car, the "Grillo," remember? The

green Caribe I had. Here's

María Carlos, whom I had the opportunity to

meet back then. Well, I met

María before Trini, and I

already got him on board. So, back then,

this was the edge of San

Cristóbal, and there wasn't any of the

construction that's going on between here and San Cristóbal, right? He's

already been uploaded. So, what happened? Are you okay?

And what are you doing here? Well, I came

to look for Dr. Martínez Chacón, using the

words and accent of a typical Mexico City resident.

I lived in Mexico for a long time

too, and obviously, that's where

a certain connection started, right?

right?

And I said to him, "Why are you

looking for him?" Well, I'm

looking for work and all. He said, "And what

are you?" Well, I'm a biologist, and

we really needed a biologist on the team. It was being

formed, and I

told him, "Hey, we have a

deadline of this kind." I had to

consult with him. The one in charge at that

time was Juan Manuel

Mauricio Leguísamo. Some of you

will remember him.

And I told Juan Manuel, "Hey, Juan

Manuel, bring him along," he said. Let's go.

We had to form the team because the

whole team had to be sent already

formed for the

budget issues and all that, right? And that's

how Trini joined, and just like

Maestro Parra said, he arrived when

the ash was falling. So

Trini was living at my house. I gave him

lodging there, and that's how a long,

partying friendship began. José used to say that José

and José would get into some terrible drinking sessions,

and yeah,

right? The very day the

ash fell, it got dark, and when I looked at my

watch, it was 8:30. Trini said to me, "Hey,

Héctor, Héctor, what happened?" He said, "It's

ash falling." And I was looking at my watch,

well, with The reason was that it was nighttime because it was

completely dark, right? I thought

my watch had broken down because of the

party we'd had that night

. And, as I said, I had

the good fortune to meet him. Everything

I could say has already been said, but he seemed like

a person very interested

in research.

We started at the Center for

Ecological Research of the Southeast.

He and I, along with other people who are

no longer with us, were part of forming the union. We

had the

hope of creating a union that would

support research, that wouldn't

fall into those corrupt union practices

that existed, and all that, that would allow

us to participate in decisions about how

research should be conducted,

along with all the academic staff.

Pure illusions, because none of this

could be done, right? Yes. So, that's how

I met Trini, and from then on,

we maintained a

long and deep friendship, and to this

day I've also been fortunate enough to have

María, who's here, and Carlos, who

was also here. That he met Tri

with us, right? Through Pastor

Pedraza, who's here, and that's how he

also met María, his

wife, right? And well, as you've already

said, Trini was a tremendous

researcher, and I think his family is

connected to him, right? Well, that's all I

Thank you very much, Héctor. Well,

Trini also played a role.

Eduardo, are you there? Yes.

Eduardo Naranjo.

Yes, yes, yes. Cristina, can you hear me?

Yes, we can hear you. Go ahead, Eduardo, please.

please.

Yes, thank you. Sorry,

the microphone wasn't working. Well,

thank you very much, Cristina, for the

invitation, and my deepest

condolences to our good

friend María Raquel. Alejandro, Carlos,

perhaps you remember, he was a very good friend of your

father. Well, I still feel like I am

. You've already given

very accurate, very

eloquent descriptions of who Trini was, of his

great legacy, of His greatness, the great

person he was. I'd like to briefly tell you

about my acquaintance with Trini as a friend and

fellow professor at UNICACH,

right? I arrived at UNICACH in

'87 to teach, still very young.

Trini was there too, he hadn't been there long

, but he was already a very

well-regarded professor, much loved by his

students and the colleagues who

knew him at that time.

We also developed a great appreciation for

good old Trini, right?

Not only for being a great professor, very well-

informed, very careful in

preparing his classes, very honest,

very clear, especially for the great

clarity he had in giving his

explanations, and that made the

students and us fellow professors

professors

recognize him as a very

important figure in the

biology department at UNICACH. I'm talking

about the late '80s.

Over time, we became very good friends.

With Trini, we learned about...

Montes Azules Reserve in the Candon Jungle.

We went camping there many times. The

same with El Triunfo Reserve.

We explored it together, walked around

quite a bit, talked, and shared a tent.

tent.

I remember that sometimes Trini couldn't swim,

so we had to cross rivers

in the jungle, and we had to

escort him, holding onto

a rope so he wouldn't drift away. We did

n't have life jackets or anything like that

. So, all sorts

of adventures

we had with Trini in the countryside. Another

time, I remember that in El Triunfo, on our

first trip, we slept in

a shed on the Pruscia ranch

that they lent us,

and in the morning I remember Trini saying,

"I feel like I have a little stick

stuck in my shoe, a pebble or

something." And when she took out her cruiser boot,

which is what she always wore, right?

Her blue sweater and her boots Cruise ship boots

weren't a given. Well, it turns out it was a

pretty big scorpion. Luckily, he

squashed it when he put his foot in his

cruise ship boot and it didn't hurt him

, right? But things like that,

I mean, there are many more anecdotes to

tell. But well, I just

want to conclude by expressing my deepest

appreciation for the good Trini. He was a

person who left a lasting impression on

those of us who knew him, not

only for his simplicity, his kindness

, and his friendliness, as already

mentioned, but above all for the well-

documented information he

shared with all of us. Whether we were

students, friends, or

coworkers. He surely did the same with his

family, right? With

his children, his daughter, Maria,

well, the times we spent time with

them too. As a father,

as a husband, I noticed that he was very respectful and,

above all, very measured in his

comments, you know? I mean, While he was

firm in correcting his children

when necessary, I remember that he

always presented them with

the information they needed to

see what was right and

wrong from his point of view. So,

with that approach, with that

vision, I think he treated

most of us as well, and for that

reason, as has already been said, he is

a very fondly remembered and beloved person, and he

will always be very much appreciated by all of us who

who

knew him. Thank you very much, and my deepest

condolences, María, Alejandro, Carlos, and

Well, good morning.

Today we are gathered here, and it's wonderful to see the

auditorium full of people. We send our deepest affection to

those who are connecting

. We had a deep

affection for Trini.

There is still sadness, there is serenity,

but above all, there is a

very deep, very great, very profound gratitude. We miss him while at the

We miss him while at the

same time recognizing the

privilege of having known him, of having

literally walked with him in the field. or

in the hallways, having learned from

his wisdom.

Personally, I met him. I

arrived at Ecosur in 2000 and I must have

met him in 2001 or 2002, because he was one

of my thesis advisors. From that moment,

from listening to him in his

office, I felt a

great deal of gratitude and a strong desire to

say, "Oh, there are many questions here,

many issues to address."

And from there I began to get to

know him better, particularly in this

space and with the presence of his family

and the Ecosur community. And on behalf

of the General Coordination of

Outreach, which I am now responsible for,

we want to remember

Professor Trinidad Alemán Santellán, who

was Director of Outreach between 2008 and 2011.

2011.

During those years, outreach was

sustained. I was reading the

reports from that period, and it was strengthened

in a very complex context that

we would see is very similar to what we face now,

but the circumstances were different. You

will recall that there were many

institutional adjustments, there was the

Academic restructuring led to

profound debates about the mission at that

time, the direction of

public science, and new

regulatory requirements. These discussions took place here in our

auditoriums, creating many

tensions between what was being said,

between what was expected of

institutions dedicated to

science and what the territories were

actually asking for, and what Trini was

sensitive to recognizing.

So, he had to be in the middle of

these tensions

and he didn't back down. He listened to processes,

maintained relationships, and kept

the dialogue open with communities and organizations.

organizations.

During that period, between 2008 and 2010,

several collaborative networks were consolidated ,

continuing education opportunities were expanded, and

the editorial process was greatly strengthened

. If we want to see Trini, if

we want to see his perspective on how to

communicate science, we have to

visit Ecofronteras. He was part of the

editorial committee of this great journal, and

much of his thinking is expressed there .

During this time,

there were these major projects like Rediza, the

Grijalba project, and several others. It was the era when

CONASIT was promoting it in that way, and

more than administrative management, uh Trini

advocated listening, listening,

reflection, and mediation.

Those who worked closely with Trini,

those of us who worked closely with Trini, as

those who spoke before me have already mentioned,

would agree that her contribution was

n't in the spotlight, she wasn't

seeking the limelight, but rather in asking questions. She did

questions. She did

n't occupy spaces

for decision-making and imposing her will. She

occupied them when necessary, through

questioning, analysis, and

honest action.

With her clear and rigorous perspective, she

had the ability to point out,

respectfully and firmly,

that not all development is progress, that

not all science fulfills its

public function if it doesn't question itself.

This way of thinking also left a strong mark

on much of her written work, and we

can also see it reflected in her talks.

talks.

She contributed to envisioning an Ecosur more

consistent with its mission, which although

still under construction,

helped him to imagine himself more aware of

his public responsibility and more honest

in the face of demands that we have to

recognize, do not always originate from the

territory, they come from

where we see ourselves in

Mexico. So today we want to

say, simply and with affection,

thank you very much. Many thanks to Trini, thank you

for your support,

for your critical clarity, for your ethical

thinking and for a way of being in

this institution without seeking the limelight, but

with great depth.

Thank you for helping to sustain the linkage

linkage

as a space with great meaning,

even in such unfavorable conditions.

unfavorable conditions.

Thank you very much, Adriana Quiroga. Well,

Trini Alemán was also part

of two other communities, one that

Eduardo Naranjo already mentioned, the

Unicach community. Um, I ran into

some of the people who

attended the funeral, and

one of the professors from

Unicatch was telling me that he intended

to come and see him in January because

they wanted to organize a tribute.

They wanted to come and ask him for

dates to start organizing, and he

told me, "Well, we're going to work on

paying him tribute, and we'll

invite you to join us."

Trini was also part of another

community, the community of the

Triunfo Biosphere Reserve. He was a

member of the advisory sub-council of this

reserve, and we are joined by Professor

Janette González, director of

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. We are

very happy to see this auditorium full and

all the people who are on social media. We are

saddened by Trini's passing, we are saddened.

We need to find another advisor like

him who can keep us grounded and bring

us down to earth with a word. His

words, his wishes, his questions

still leave us with much work to do. And During that

period of connection that

Cristina told us about, Trini became associated with the El

Triunfo Biosphere Reserve. The El

Triunfo Reserve and his concerns for

conservation, for how

protected areas are conserved in

Mexico, led him to become part of our

community. He didn't earn anything for being

with us, but he worked incredibly hard. He was

an integral part of our

advisory council, specifically the sub-advisory council that

meets in San Cristóbal with other

academics, civil organizations, and a

third of our advisory council.

In my role as secretary of the council

of this social participation body, I

come today to read you the words of

our executive president, biologist

Freud Lanes Quinca, who, being absent

at this moment, offers this tribute to Trini

with his words. All of

us, the members of the

Advisory Council of the El Triunfo Biosphere Reserve

, after working for some 16

years with

Professor Trini's wisdom and knowledge,

offer this tribute and are deeply

saddened by his passing.

These are Freudesinka's words on

conservation and

natural resource management strategies, as well as the

technical studies justifying the El

Triunfo Biosphere Reserve. The actors

involved, besides you, Eduardo

Naranjo, and many other researchers,

played a fundamental role in its

guidance. You were always willing

to attend to young

researchers and also advise them in

science. You emphasized their awareness

of their involvement in biology and

in the conservation of biodiversity and ecosystems.

ecosystems.

Undoubtedly, your serious work in

ethnobiology created a current of

thought and interrelation with customs

and traditions, but also in the

harmonization of an

interdisciplinary and intercultural endeavor. And

I would like to highlight

that Trinidad was surely, though

science has not yet recognized it, a

pioneer in transdisciplinary work,

but he also sowed the seeds of the search to

internalize the socio-environmental dimension and ethnobiology in his courses, both in

the biology program at the IC,

UNICATch, as well as at the Colegio de la

Frontera Sur,

traveling to various regions of the state

where, in action research,

these biologists in training or

master's students encountered the

reality of the use and transformation of

landscapes, their management and impacts, but also They recognized the formulas of

also They recognized the formulas of connection and respect for one another

connection and respect for one another , but above all, they understood

, but above all, they understood the best practices within that dynamic. Thus, you will find

the best practices within that dynamic. Thus, you will find words of praise from countless students

words of praise from countless students and people from various regions

and people from various regions of the state, always present throughout the

of the state, always present throughout the history of research development and

history of research development and collaboration in the

collaboration in the Sierra Madre, and particularly since its inception

Sierra Madre, and particularly since its inception on the Council of the

on the Council of the Triunfo Biosphere Reserve, and especially

Triunfo Biosphere Reserve, and especially in all the versions in which I have been

in all the versions in which I have been honored to serve as president of the

honored to serve as president of the Advisory Council, where you were always present

Advisory Council, where you were always present as Sebastián, a technical and social advisor on the

as Sebastián, a technical and social advisor on the technical sub-council. Paradoxically,

technical sub-council. Paradoxically, our last meeting was just a

our last meeting was just a few days ago at the Jaden House in San

few days ago at the Jaden House in San Cristóbal de las Casas, where

Cristóbal de las Casas, where your willingness and kindness always made evident

your willingness and kindness always made evident your clear vision and contributions

your clear vision and contributions to the development of your work.

to the development of your work. Our solidarity and respect go out to your

Our solidarity and respect go out to your dear family, and may your light

dear family, and may your light remain and transcend in every person

remain and transcend in every person who was shaped by your

who was shaped by your long and distinguished teaching and professional life

long and distinguished teaching and professional life . Rest in

. Rest in peace, dear friend. Mission accomplished and

peace, dear friend. Mission accomplished and enriched.

enriched. Dr. Freilán Esquincao, president of the

Dr. Freilán Esquincao, president of the Advisory Council of the

Advisory Council of the Triunfo Biosphere Reserve, on behalf of all

Triunfo Biosphere Reserve, on behalf of all the staff and collaborators of the

the staff and collaborators of the reserve and its council. Trin was very

reserve and its council. Trin was very committed to Triunfo, and Triunfo will

committed to Triunfo, and Triunfo will always be his home. Thank you.

Well, among Trini's many facets and interests, you

interests, you remember that he was also very

remember that he was also very interested in the topic of

interested in the topic of union organization, so he

union organization, so he was interviewed on the 39th

was interviewed on the 39th anniversary of STECOSUR. Can you tell us

anniversary of STECOSUR. Can you tell us how the interview came about, Doris?

how the interview came about, Doris? Yes,

Yes, the video of the interview will be shown shortly, but perhaps

the video of the interview will be shown shortly, but perhaps to learn a little bit about

to learn a little bit about how...

how... Good morning. Good morning everyone, and

Good morning. Good morning everyone, and well, it's a pleasure to have the

well, it's a pleasure to have the family of Maestro Trini here. And well, I'll tell you

family of Maestro Trini here. And well, I'll tell you very quickly. We as a

very quickly. We as a union were working

union were working with 50 people when I took office,

with 50 people when I took office, before I had the

before I had the opportunity to be the

opportunity to be the union secretary.

union secretary. Several colleagues had tried

Several colleagues had tried to be secretaries... And it hadn't been achieved

to be secretaries... And it hadn't been achieved precisely because of what you already know,

precisely because of what you already know, right? Machismo and other issues.

right? Machismo and other issues. My colleague Elvira, Elvira López, the

My colleague Elvira, Elvira López, the wife of Professor Parra, is

wife of Professor Parra, is sitting over there. She

sitting over there. She was very close to Professor Trini, and

was very close to Professor Trini, and when we wanted to strengthen the

when we wanted to strengthen the union, we approached him to

union, we approached him to ask what we could do,

ask what we could do, what information he could give us, because we knew he had

what information he could give us, because we knew he had been a pioneer of the union

been a pioneer of the union when he started at SUTSías. We

when he started at SUTSías. We approached him, and obviously, he had a

approached him, and obviously, he had a unique way of telling stories, and he

unique way of telling stories, and he narrated things to us, and so

narrated things to us, and so we launched a campaign,

we launched a campaign, indirectly with the advice or rather,

indirectly with the advice or rather, the guidance of Professor TR.

the guidance of Professor TR. So after that, fortunately,

So after that, fortunately, we managed to have this union on

we managed to have this union on our side, and today

our side, and today the union includes all the

the union includes all the staff because back then,

staff because back then, when they couldn't form the union, it was

when they couldn't form the union, it was because we were in section

because we were in section B, and academic staff are classified

B, and academic staff are classified as confidential personnel. So it was

as confidential personnel. So it was impossible to form a union at

impossible to form a union at that time. However, today

that time. However, today we are all unionized, well,

we are all unionized, well, we can be unionized.

we can be unionized. And so, uh, to It was a

And so, uh, to It was a very small contribution, but a very big one for

very small contribution, but a very big one for us. So, when we celebrated our 39th

us. So, when we celebrated our 39th anniversary, we asked him for an

anniversary, we asked him for an interview, which, as you know, because of

interview, which, as you know, because of his simplicity, because of the way he

his simplicity, because of the way he was, he wasn't very keen on, but in the

was, he wasn't very keen on, but in the end he gave it, and well, we have it now

end he gave it, and well, we have it now as a memento. And well, I want to

as a memento. And well, I want to say that I'd like us to give a

say that I'd like us to give a big round of applause to Maestro Trini, and on

big round of applause to Maestro Trini, and on behalf of the union movement at Ecosur,

very much, Doris. Well, we're having a technical problem because of how quickly

technical problem because of how quickly we organized this. The video will load in a moment

we organized this. The video will load in a moment . We see that

. We see that several people wanted to say

several people wanted to say goodbye, to say a

goodbye, to say a few words, and we'd like to

few words, and we'd like to take this opportunity to open the

take this opportunity to open the microphones. I don't know if

microphones. I don't know if anyone connected would like to

anyone connected would like to participate and share a few words, an

participate and share a few words, an anecdote, or what it

anecdote, or what it meant to be with

meant to be with Trini, to share the experiences of living and working with him, and

Trini, to share the experiences of living and working with him, and of course, the loss.

of course, the loss. And here in the auditorium, I don't know if... Go

And here in the auditorium, I don't know if... Go ahead, please.

ahead, please. Go ahead, Jorgito. And

Go ahead, Jorgito. And also, if anyone who's online wants to participate, please

also, if anyone who's online wants to participate, please

unmute your microphone or raise your hand.

raise your hand. Hello, good morning. Well

Hello, good morning. Well , not many of you know

, not many of you know that Professor Trinidad, the teacher,

that Professor Trinidad, the teacher, Professor Trinidad or Trini, as we

Professor Trinidad or Trini, as we all called him, was my

all called him, was my university professor. He

university professor. He taught us several classes, he taught us

taught us several classes, he taught us ecology, and he was our class sponsor

ecology, and he was our class sponsor .

. In fact, he was very pleased, as you

In fact, he was very pleased, as you said, because of his humility.

said, because of his humility. He didn't want to be our class sponsor, did he?

He didn't want to be our class sponsor, did he? And we were there

And we were there talking, convincing him,

talking, convincing him, until we finally got him to take a picture

until we finally got him to take a picture with us at the Polforum in

with us at the Polforum in Tal Gutiérrez. It was a very emotional moment

Tal Gutiérrez. It was a very emotional moment because he said he felt very,

because he said he felt very, very happy because he said, well,

very happy because he said, well, the truth is I've never been part of a graduating class before,

the truth is I've never been part of a graduating class before, and it was the first time I'd been

and it was the first time I'd been invited to something like this, and I'm

invited to something like this, and I'm very pleased about it. Really.

very pleased about it. Really. Many of

Many of Trini's students were

Trini's students were deeply affected by his loss.

deeply affected by his loss. Especially in my case, because I would run into him

Especially in my case, because I would run into him every week in the

every week in the hallways and we talked a lot about it

hallways and we talked a lot about it . One thing I remember about

. One thing I remember about Trini is that thanks to him, I got to

Trini is that thanks to him, I got to know the El Triunfo Reserve. He

know the El Triunfo Reserve. He was the first person in a series of

was the first person in a series of field trips who took us there

field trips who took us there . And in that story, when we were going up the

. And in that story, when we were going up the Prorusia farm, he told us,

Prorusia farm, he told us, "No, guys, it's a

"No, guys, it's a four-hour walk to get to the reserve." So,

four-hour walk to get to the reserve." So, in a room like

in a room like ours, where there were 18 people,

ours, where there were 18 people, 12 of us in the end, we were

12 of us in the end, we were saying, well, who's going to go up

saying, well, who's going to go up or how are we going to go up?

or how are we going to go up? And he said, "No, I'm going to climb at

And he said, "No, I'm going to climb at my own pace. I'm going to climb very slowly. It's going

my own pace. I'm going to climb very slowly. It's going to take me about 6 or 7 hours to get up

to take me about 6 or 7 hours to get up to camp one." So,

to camp one." So, several of us who were a little

several of us who were a little older than him, stayed with him

older than him, stayed with him , accompanying him, because there were

, accompanying him, because there were people who did go up much

people who did go up much faster. But what a surprise it was for us

faster. But what a surprise it was for us ! that on the way there was the

! that on the way there was the person who supposedly couldn't walk or was going to be

person who supposedly couldn't walk or was going to be climbing for 6 or 7 hours, well, he was

climbing for 6 or 7 hours, well, he was ahead of us and we were out of

ahead of us and we were out of breath, no, wait, no, no, that's not what, that we were going to be

breath, no, wait, no, no, that's not what, that we were going to be 6 hours

6 hours because he couldn't walk, right? He says, well, it

because he couldn't walk, right? He says, well, it 's to give them encouragement, right? So that

's to give them encouragement, right? So that everyone can get on and no

everyone can get on and no one gets left behind, because if I tell you the truth about

one gets left behind, because if I tell you the truth about how it was, well, they're not going to get on. And

how it was, well, they're not going to get on. And we were already walking with him and we were saying, "We're almost

we were already walking with him and we were saying, "We're almost there. We're almost there, just

there. We're almost there, just two more curves or

two more curves or about 10 more minutes and in 10 or

about 10 more minutes and in 10 or 15 minutes we'll be almost there. How much

15 minutes we'll be almost there. How much longer?" Because we went with him, the

longer?" Because we went with him, the guards, the watchman at that time, we

guards, the watchman at that time, we went up with our backpacks,

went up with our backpacks, we went up with our own food and

we went up with our own food and everything to be there. Well, he

everything to be there. Well, he was inside us like that for about 3 hours. When we got

was inside us like that for about 3 hours. When we got there, we said, "Hey, well, it's supposed to be a

there, we said, "Hey, well, it's supposed to be a long road, but he

long road, but he told them this so no one would get left behind

told them this so no one would get left behind and to encourage them, right? And thanks

and to encourage them, right? And thanks to Trini, who is a very dear teacher

to Trini, who is a very dear teacher to us and who taught us so much

to us and who taught us so much . Thanks to him, he was one of those

. Thanks to him, he was one of those true teachers, one of those

true teachers, one of those old-school, holistic teachers who

old-school, holistic teachers who absorbed so much of his knowledge,

absorbed so much of his knowledge, right? And it's really thanks to him that I

right? And it's really thanks to him that I found such a love for El Triunfo that we've

found such a love for El Triunfo that we've continued collaborating, right? And we've been

continued collaborating, right? And we've been collaborating with the people at the reserve, and we

collaborating with the people at the reserve, and we continue to collaborate to this

continue to collaborate to this day. So I think many of

day. So I think many of his students, like me, were very

his students, like me, were very impressed, especially because when we were

impressed, especially because when we were leaving the field to finish up,

leaving the field to finish up, he would ask me, 'Are you still going out

he would ask me, 'Are you still going out into the field?' I'd say, 'Yes, we have

into the field?' I'd say, 'Yes, we have .' He'd say, 'I'm so

.' He'd say, 'I'm so glad you're still going out and

glad you're still going out and doing what you always did

doing what you always did , especially that time we went

, especially that time we went to El Triunfo, which really stuck with me.' So,

to El Triunfo, which really stuck with me.' So, for his family... It makes more

for his family... It makes more sense on behalf of my generation, the

sense on behalf of my generation, the 9297 generation

9297 generation of the University of Sciences and Arts of

of the University of Sciences and Arts of Chiapas, but we offer our deepest condolences.

Thank you very much, Jorge. Well, Cris has asked me to take over for her. I do

Well, Cris has asked me to take over for her. I do n't know if there's anyone else who would like to speak

n't know if there's anyone else who would like to speak , to give a

, to give a testimony,

testimony, Laura. Thank you. Speaking

Laura. Thank you. Speaking of

which, well, as Adriana Quiroga already mentioned , Trini was always one of the

, Trini was always one of the best friends of Cofronteras,

our popular science magazine. So, he was always, I would say he

So, he was always, I would say he was a key person for our

was a key person for our magazine from several angles, right?

magazine from several angles, right? But what I just want to

But what I just want to share with you now is that around 2007

share with you now is that around 2007 or 2008 we published an article by Trini

or 2008 we published an article by Trini in the magazine. So, it's an

in the magazine. So, it's an article that we later learned he

article that we later learned he wrote back then, which I

wrote back then, which I remembered because you mentioned the

remembered because you mentioned the Chichonal eruption. So, it's an article

Chichonal eruption. So, it's an article he wrote 25 years after the

he wrote 25 years after the Chichonal eruption, but it's an

Chichonal eruption, but it's an article that we in my department

article that we in my department teach a writing course on every year.

teach a writing course on every year. First, it used to be in person,

First, it used to be in person, now it's online, and besides the

now it's online, and besides the theoretical stuff, we always include some popular

theoretical stuff, we always include some popular science readings

science readings for some of the participation activities,

for some of the participation activities, right? So, one of the texts

right? So, one of the texts we've kept since the

we've kept since the first edition of this course is this

first edition of this course is this text by Trini because of the great

text by Trini because of the great interest it always generates, right?

interest it always generates, right? Among the people who participate

Among the people who participate in the course. So, the text is

in the course. So, the text is called "The Devil Arrived in Chiapas at

called "The Devil Arrived in Chiapas at 7:30 in the Evening." So, well,

7:30 in the Evening." So, well, this is a

this is a masterful text; I mean, it has all of

masterful text; I mean, it has all of Trini's writing, mixing

Trini's writing, mixing precise information, hard data, with

precise information, hard data, with this endearing personal anecdote that really

this endearing personal anecdote that really captivates, right? So,

captivates, right? So, I say, Trini was

I say, Trini was an invaluable person for us,

an invaluable person for us, always invaluable. And well, she'll

always invaluable. And well, she'll

always be in the pages of our magazine, right? So, I reiterate the invitation to

reiterate the invitation to read Trini in Ecofronteras,

read Trini in Ecofronteras, her great critical sense, her Great

her great critical sense, her Great social responsibility, and well,

social responsibility, and well, his writing is also excellent, isn't it? It's always

his writing is also excellent, isn't it? It's always enjoyable, it's embraced, right?

enjoyable, it's embraced, right? Many greetings to the family.

Thank you very much, Laura. I don't know if those who are connected

those who are connected would like to share any

would like to share any experiences, any stories,

experiences, any stories, please raise your hand so we

please raise your hand so we can turn on the microphones,

or anyone else in the room .

Okay. Well, good afternoon, if we can

Well, good afternoon, if we can hear you well. Look, I don't work here

hear you well. Look, I don't work here in San Cristóbal or at Ecusur, but

in San Cristóbal or at Ecusur, but we had the opportunity to be at a

we had the opportunity to be at a two-day workshop here in San

two-day workshop here in San Cristóbal, convened by Dr.

Cristóbal, convened by Dr. Guillermo Jiménez Ferrer and his team. And

Guillermo Jiménez Ferrer and his team. And since we have worked with Dr.

since we have worked with Dr. Guillermo on several things together on

Guillermo on several things together on various topics, especially livestock,

various topics, especially livestock, the workshop consisted of two sessions,

the workshop consisted of two sessions, day one and day two. What I remember about

day one and day two. What I remember about Trini, because everyone called her that, I

Trini, because everyone called her that, I only knew her by name and nothing

only knew her by name and nothing more. And the things that seemed

more. And the things that seemed important to me, what you have already mentioned,

important to me, what you have already mentioned, one is a research matter; she

one is a research matter; she had specific things to say, which

had specific things to say, which is...

is... Instead of just accepting what they're saying, offer a different perspective, ask for more details

Instead of just accepting what they're saying, offer a different perspective, ask for more details or documentation,

or documentation, or anything that's more coherent

or anything that's more coherent and understandable for everyone, especially for

and understandable for everyone, especially for

ordinary people like us. Another thing I mentioned was the sheep, and

Another thing I mentioned was the sheep, and I found it interesting because I've

I found it interesting because I've seen sheep from here in Histán all the way to

seen sheep from here in Histán all the way to Tenejapa, well, in the areas I've been to

Tenejapa, well, in the areas I've been to as a tourist,

as a tourist, since I only come here to sightsee.

since I only come here to sightsee. So I found what he

So I found what he said about the sheep interesting, how he treated them

said about the sheep interesting, how he treated them like cargo, like a commodity, and as an

like cargo, like a commodity, and as an economic asset. And I just want to

economic asset. And I just want to comment on what people who

comment on what people who have lived here and are from Los

have lived here and are from Los Altos have told me: they don't eat sheep. We

Altos have told me: they don't eat sheep. We already know that. But there's something that

already know that. But there's something that struck me as important, because a girl

struck me as important, because a girl from Panteló said, "When you pass through

from Panteló said, "When you pass through Oschucan, you see

sheep." The poor ones who have from one to 5, 10 to 15 sheep. The middle-class

5, 10 to 15 sheep. The middle-class women aren't poor; they have 20 to 50 sheep, and

women aren't poor; they have 20 to 50 sheep, and the rich ones have 100, 200, or many more.

the rich ones have 100, 200, or many more. And those women are identified

And those women are identified by their longer-haired dresses, which

by their longer-haired dresses, which I think are worth more than 5,000, 10,000, or 20,000, or I do

I think are worth more than 5,000, 10,000, or 20,000, or I do n't know how much. The truth is, that

n't know how much. The truth is, that struck me, and I saw it yesterday at the

struck me, and I saw it yesterday at the Domínguez Theater: luxurious women, with

Domínguez Theater: luxurious women, with luxury shoes, taking pictures. There were

luxury shoes, taking pictures. There were other women wearing different

other women wearing different dresses. So, yes, you can identify

dresses. So, yes, you can identify women of means

women of means who don't have much money; they're out there, you know, in

who don't have much money; they're out there, you know, in my town in Occoingo, selling

my town in Occoingo, selling things. Well, you can see they work, that's for sure

things. Well, you can see they work, that's for sure , but she, this friend, distinguishes the

, but she, this friend, distinguishes the three, not classes, but levels

three, not classes, but levels of their economic status.

of their economic status. So, those two things, her intuitive investigative nature

So, those two things, her intuitive investigative nature

and her inner richness, which she manifested not only in her writings, her

not only in her writings, her words, her attitudes, and her life,

words, her attitudes, and her life, but in how she... It was projected.

but in how she... It was projected. I felt that and I wrote it on

I felt that and I wrote it on WhatsApp with Memo and on

WhatsApp with Memo and on Facebook, that it had that strength.

Facebook, that it had that strength. That strength isn't very noticeable at

That strength isn't very noticeable at first glance, but it accumulates,

first glance, but it accumulates, like raindrops that accumulate and form clouds and

like raindrops that accumulate and form clouds and create storms and sweep away everything in

create storms and sweep away everything in their path.

their path. And the volcano you mentioned,

And the volcano you mentioned, Chichonal,

Chichonal, all the heartbeats of the

all the heartbeats of the earth, a small pulse, you don't feel it, we don't feel it

earth, a small pulse, you don't feel it, we don't feel it . Many people from Cupinala

. Many people from Cupinala said, a man told me, that

said, a man told me, that people didn't believe in the thunder, the

people didn't believe in the thunder, the tremors. The first eruption of the

tremors. The first eruption of the rocks, people didn't pay much attention.

rocks, people didn't pay much attention. When they finally paid attention, when they said,

When they finally paid attention, when they said, "This is real," it was when it

"This is real," it was when it buried them, when the church, well, the

buried them, when the church, well, the church was buried, people

church was buried, people died. Then they said, "This was

died. Then they said, "This was real." So they didn't feel the small pulse,

real." So they didn't feel the small pulse, like I didn't see it with

like I didn't see it with Trini

Trini because we had

because we had a session, the second one, and it was over.

a session, the second one, and it was over. Two days after I met him, well, I saw that

Two days after I met him, well, I saw that

hurricane-like strength he had, and now you 're talking about it, and the volcano that... well, it

're talking about it, and the volcano that... well, it left The ash, which is now

left The ash, which is now physically the Chichonal, left a

physically the Chichonal, left a deep mark, changed the nature

deep mark, changed the nature of the volcano. I only knew of it by reputation in the '

of the volcano. I only knew of it by reputation in the ' 80s—no, I

80s—no, I never went to the Chichonal in '77. But they were already

never went to the Chichonal in '77. But they were already calling it Chichonal. Now that I went to see it

calling it Chichonal. Now that I went to see it recently, I saw more of the crater and the

recently, I saw more of the crater and the lagoon. Now we know more about the volcano

lagoon. Now we know more about the volcano than we did when I

than we did when I was around there in the '70s. Two things about

was around there in the '70s. Two things about Trini: his observant,

Trini: his observant, intuitive, and investigative nature, and his way of

intuitive, and investigative nature, and his way of approaching things; and the sheep,

approaching things; and the sheep, because I found him very interesting. I

because I found him very interesting. I like lamb the most,

like lamb the most, but the kind that's eaten

but the kind that's eaten here, the tropical kind. I've never eaten a

here, the tropical kind. I've never eaten a hairy sheep. So, those are two

hairy sheep. So, those are two observations and one personal reflection

observations and one personal reflection of Trini's. In the two days I knew him,

of Trini's. In the two days I knew him, I felt that, I perceived that, and I think

I felt that, I perceived that, and I think this is worthwhile. And well, I didn't know

this is worthwhile. And well, I didn't know you all, just the two days I saw Trini.

you all, just the two days I saw Trini. I felt a very special empathy, and even more so

I felt a very special empathy, and even more so now. It was a

now. It was a pleasure. I'd like to meet you and tell you about

pleasure. I'd like to meet you and tell you about two workshop sessions.

two workshop sessions. Thank you, Maximino Hernández Martínez.

I think we have someone connected who would like to speak. Let's

see, while we give them the floor, here are the microphones.

here are the microphones. Okay. Go ahead. Who is Armando?

Okay. Go ahead. Who is Armando? Go ahead, Armando, from the

Go ahead, Armando, from the Campeche unit.

Hello, good morning. Good morning, colleagues. We are

colleagues. We are very sorry for the passing

very sorry for the passing of Trini. My deepest condolences to her

of Trini. My deepest condolences to her family. We stand in solidarity

family. We stand in solidarity with you as colleagues. I

with you as colleagues. I would also like to share

would also like to share a few of the many anecdotes we

a few of the many anecdotes we can tell about Trini's legacy

can tell about Trini's legacy since my arrival in San Cristóbal de Las

since my arrival in San Cristóbal de Las Casas.

the first person who greeted me on my first day, in February of '97,

on my first day, in February of '97, was Trini.

It turns out that I joined the team and didn't know anything, and I stayed overnight. The

anything, and I stayed overnight. The first night I slept at Ecosur, and they were

first night I slept at Ecosur, and they were arriving from the field for the project they

arriving from the field for the project they were working on in '97, and I think That

were working on in '97, and I think That year, specifically February of '97, was a

year, specifically February of '97, was a very particular year

very particular year with the frosts. We

with the frosts. We met in the hallway,

met in the hallway, returning from the field.

returning from the field. Someone from the tropics

Someone from the tropics arriving in the frosts of San

arriving in the frosts of San Cristóbal isn't easy, is it?

Cristóbal isn't easy, is it? He very kindly

He very kindly provided me with

provided me with

some supplies to help maintain my body temperature

to help maintain my body temperature and cope with the climate. From then on,

and cope with the climate. From then on, Ehini

Ehini became a

became a very valued colleague,

very valued colleague, especially over

especially over the years with DASA, where I

the years with DASA, where I spent many years. Later, in

spent many years. Later, in recent

recent years, I believe that all the work

years, I believe that all the work you have shared has

you have shared has helped to build,

helped to build, in a very

in a very long-term way, with a long-

long-term way, with a long- term vision, the exercise and strength of

term vision, the exercise and strength of critical thinking for

critical thinking for institutional transformation,

institutional transformation, but also for the support and

but also for the support and growth of science, as we

growth of science, as we do at IOSU and as the

do at IOSU and as the academic groups in which

academic groups in which we had the honor of having him.

we had the honor of having him. We, well, it contributed greatly to all this

We, well, it contributed greatly to all this

inquisitive thinking that helped

the group grow, to consolidate an academic group that today, with its

academic group that today, with its contributions from that time and those that

contributions from that time and those that guide it, has given strength to the

guide it, has given strength to the academic group of sustainable livestock farming

academic group of sustainable livestock farming and climate change. This is,

and climate change. This is, let's say, in recent

let's say, in recent years. However, I believe that all that

years. However, I believe that all that trajectory we've heard about is

trajectory we've heard about is part of this entire construction

part of this entire construction that has been developing in different

that has been developing in different stages and that has undoubtedly

stages and that has undoubtedly traced a line that, until its

traced a line that, until its last days, maintained a coherence

last days, maintained a coherence and a certainty of valuing the

and a certainty of valuing the social aspect and, above all,

social aspect and, above all, the contribution we owe

the contribution we owe as a research center to

as a research center to the impact on society,

the impact on society, particularly on rural society, on

particularly on rural society, on rural families. I believe that is a

rural families. I believe that is a driving force that has always guided us

driving force that has always guided us in the work we do in the

in the work we do in the livestock collective, and we will continue to do so

livestock collective, and we will continue to do so . Thank you very much.

. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Armando

Thank you very much, Armando from the Campeche Unit. Doctor,

the doctor Gerardo González also has a few words.

a few words. Well, I had already shared with you

Well, I had already shared with you the initial news of his passing, but

the initial news of his passing, but when the tribute was held,

when the tribute was held, since I'm very bad at speaking,

since I'm very bad at speaking, I decided it was better to write, and my therapist told me to

I decided it was better to write, and my therapist told me to write. So I think that's a

write. So I think that's a good thing. I put for German translation, for translation.

good thing. I put for German translation, for translation. Science, when practiced with the

Science, when practiced with the depth that you did, ceases to

depth that you did, ceases to be an accumulation of data and

be an accumulation of data and becomes a narrative of life. The

becomes a narrative of life. The passing of our Trin not only mourns

passing of our Trin not only mourns his family and friends, but also leaves a

his family and friends, but also leaves a technical and human void in our

technical and human void in our community, particularly in this

community, particularly in this border region where conservation

border region where conservation meets social justice. His

meets social justice. His legacy, as I see it, is a

legacy, as I see it, is a reminder

reminder that the biologist not only observes

that the biologist not only observes nature, but must be a bridge

nature, but must be a bridge between scientific knowledge and

between scientific knowledge and popular wisdom.

popular wisdom. One of his greatest contributions, in my opinion

One of his greatest contributions, in my opinion , was the defense of

, was the defense of agroforestry systems.

agroforestry systems. In his writings, in his talks, Trin

In his writings, in his talks, Trin emphasized, for example, that MIRPA and

emphasized, for example, that MIRPA and shade-grown capital were not

shade-grown capital were not outdated systems, but models of resilience

outdated systems, but models of resilience in the face of climate change. As As a colleague, a

in the face of climate change. As As a colleague, a companion, a friend, it was inspiring to

companion, a friend, it was inspiring to hear him speak about the importance

hear him speak about the importance of biodiversity, among other things. He was

of biodiversity, among other things. He was n't seeking museum-like conservation,

n't seeking museum-like conservation, excuse me, but rather a living conservation where

excuse me, but rather a living conservation where human beings were an integral part of the

human beings were an integral part of the ecosystem.

ecosystem. For those of us who shared various

For those of us who shared various spaces with him, Trini was the ultimate example of

spaces with him, Trini was the ultimate example of academic generosity.

academic generosity. In a scientific system that often

In a scientific system that often encourages individualism, he opted for

encourages individualism, he opted for collaboration.

collaboration. He was a mentor who not only reviewed

He was a mentor who not only reviewed texts but also shaped consciences.

texts but also shaped consciences. He taught that respect for

He taught that respect for wildlife is inseparable from respect for

wildlife is inseparable from respect for the dignity of Indigenous

the dignity of Indigenous and peasant communities. His work ethic was

and peasant communities. His work ethic was reflected in his ability to move

reflected in his ability to move between, let's say, the

between, let's say, the highly specialized laboratory—if we can see it that way—

highly specialized laboratory—if we can see it that way— and the community assembly. With the

and the community assembly. With the same humility, he understood that

same humility, he understood that knowledge is a common good. Therefore, what he

knowledge is a common good. Therefore, what he published, his interviews, what

published, his interviews, what we discussed about ecology and other

we discussed about ecology and other topics continue to benefit the

topics continue to benefit the community, referenced not only by

community, referenced not only by academics but also by

academics but also by field promoters, as we have heard, who

field promoters, as we have heard, who find in His words are a guide to

find in His words are a guide to action.

action. It is a legacy that flourishes on the

It is a legacy that flourishes on the southern border, without a doubt. Today we say goodbye to the

southern border, without a doubt. Today we say goodbye to the biologist, the researcher, the friend, the

biologist, the researcher, the friend, the comrade, the colleague—however you

comrade, the colleague—however you want to see him—because he is a work of art. His

want to see him—because he is a work of art. His writings remain, his analyses of the

writings remain, his analyses of the current situation, of politics, and above

current situation, of politics, and above all, his vision of a science with a

all, his vision of a science with a human face.

human face. Trin taught us that the most

Trin taught us that the most important biology is that which is done with our

important biology is that which is done with our feet on the ground and our eyes fixed

feet on the ground and our eyes fixed on a more just future. Trin

on a more just future. Trin now returns to the land he so fiercely defended. He

now returns to the land he so fiercely defended. He remains in the nectar of these flowers that

remains in the nectar of these flowers that bees visit, in the shade of the

bees visit, in the shade of the trees he helped plant, and in the

trees he helped plant, and in the heart of every colleague I see here.

heart of every colleague I see here. Thanks to him, we learned that science

Thanks to him, we learned that science is, above all, an act of love for

is, above all, an act of love for life. There is a law in biology that

life. There is a law in biology that Trini knew well: matter is neither

Trini knew well: matter is neither created nor destroyed, it is only transformed.

created nor destroyed, it is only transformed. And today our colleague, our comrade,

And today our colleague, our comrade, our friend has decided to transform

our friend has decided to transform into that which he loved most. He has dissolved

into that which he loved most. He has dissolved into the pollen that the bees travel on. the legs of the

into the pollen that the bees travel on. the legs of the bees he surely knew so well. He has

bees he surely knew so well. He has become that necessary moisture

become that necessary moisture that nourishes the roots of the

that nourishes the roots of the Chiapas jungle, the highlands of Chiapas, the

Chiapas jungle, the highlands of Chiapas, the territories we travel so much through. He

territories we travel so much through. He now dwells in the aroma of the coffee that filters through

now dwells in the aroma of the coffee that filters through the mornings in San Cristóbal de las

the mornings in San Cristóbal de las Casas and the smell of bread. We say

Casas and the smell of bread. We say goodbye to our comrade, friend, compadre,

goodbye to our comrade, friend, compadre, but we are left with the man who

but we are left with the man who knew that there is no true science without

knew that there is no true science without ethics nor real progress without justice.

ethics nor real progress without justice. Trin has stopped writing his story

Trin has stopped writing his story on paper to begin writing it on

on paper to begin writing it on the earth itself. May his flight be as

the earth itself. May his flight be as high as that of the birds of the

high as that of the birds of the southern border and as constant as the cycle of

southern border and as constant as the cycle of life he defended with such nobility.

life he defended with such nobility. Farewell, friend. May the earth

Farewell, friend. May the earth rest lightly upon you and may the fields always flourish for you.

rest lightly upon you and may the fields always flourish for you. I want to end with a Scottish poem

I want to end with a Scottish poem that is very meaningful to me.

that is very meaningful to me. You can cry because he is gone or you can

You can cry because he is gone or you can smile because he lived. You can close your

smile because he lived. You can close your eyes and pray for his return or you

eyes and pray for his return or you can open them and see all that he has

can open them and see all that he has left behind. Your heart may be empty

left behind. Your heart may be empty because you cannot see him or you can Be

because you cannot see him or you can Be filled with the love you shared. You can

filled with the love you shared. You can cry, close your mind, feel the emptiness

cry, close your mind, feel the emptiness and turn your back on him. You can do what

and turn your back on him. You can do what he would have wanted: smile, open your eyes,

he would have wanted: smile, open your eyes, love, and move on.

Thank you so much, Gerardo. Dr. López Sánchez,

Dr. López Sánchez, rector of the Intercultural University, is here with us and

rector of the Intercultural University, is here with us and will also do us the honor of saying a few

will also do us the honor of saying a few words. Thank you very much.

words. Thank you very much. Well, the truth is I wasn't planning to

Well, the truth is I wasn't planning to speak because we were deeply affected. I do

n't know if I can, but I

think he hasn't left us because he lives on in us.

in us. I was his student,

and you, as his children, have described him very well.

well. Doña Mari, I don't know if you remember me because I

Doña Mari, I don't know if you remember me because I think it's been 40 years since I met him

think it's been 40 years since I met him [laughs]. I don't

[laughs]. I don't know if you remember me, but

know if you remember me, but since then,

since then, Ecosur has been a great role model for me.

Ecosur has been a great role model for me. It became his name because

It became his name because I studied at CONALEP,

I studied at CONALEP, which is another community where he was,

and we always called him Professor Triny. And what you've said, I say he hasn't left us

And what you've said, I say he hasn't left us because perhaps I'm an example of

because perhaps I'm an example of how he hasn't left us, because I still hold onto many of his

how he hasn't left us, because I still hold onto many of his great ideas. Present.

great ideas. Present. Now that I have the opportunity to be

Now that I have the opportunity to be at the Intercultural University, I

at the Intercultural University, I have three great role models, and I

have three great role models, and I think of him because, for me, he was a truly great

think of him because, for me, he was a truly great person with a strong

person with a strong social conscience, great humanism, absolutely

social conscience, great humanism, absolutely magnificent.

magnificent. And I admired him because he had a

And I admired him because he had a

profound knowledge of his subject and was concerned about the community, believing that

and was concerned about the community, believing that knowledge should shape

knowledge should shape the community. And those are great ideas

the community. And those are great ideas that I have now, ideas that I believe I'm not

that I have now, ideas that I believe I'm not wrong about, that I've heard a lot about,

wrong about, that I've heard a lot about, and that's what I want to put into practice

and that's what I want to put into practice at the university.

at the university. And there's so

And there's so much to tell.

much to tell. I still have my weaknesses, but I've

I still have my weaknesses, but I've improved a little. I didn't speak

improved a little. I didn't speak Spanish well when I arrived at CONALEP, and he

Spanish well when I arrived at CONALEP, and he called me Javito because in my community they

called me Javito because in my community they called me Jabito, and since he came to my

called me Jabito, and since he came to my community, he would say to me, "No, Javito,

community, he would say to me, "No, Javito, you are magnificent." And I

you are magnificent." And I also heard the word "magnificent" from my

also heard the word "magnificent" from my grandfather, and he really liked to say it to me,

grandfather, and he really liked to say it to me, "Javito, you are magnificent."

"Javito, you are magnificent." So, one day in class,

So, one day in class, I admired him. I listened to him, to the

I admired him. I listened to him, to the sensitivity with which he spoke, the wonder with which he

sensitivity with which he spoke, the wonder with which he spoke Master Trini.

spoke Master Trini. So I was sitting down

So I was sitting down and he asked us, "Did you hear me?"

and he asked us, "Did you hear me?" Everyone said, "Yes, but I was

Everyone said, "Yes, but I was quiet thinking, 'How does he

quiet thinking, 'How does he know so much?'" I was admiring him. He has

know so much?'" I was admiring him. He has a wonderful way with things. How does he

a wonderful way with things. How does he do it? He said to me, "Javito, I

do it? He said to me, "Javito, I 'm talking to you too." And then I woke up. "

'm talking to you too." And then I woke up. " What happened to you?" And he came over, I remember he patted me

What happened to you?" And he came over, I remember he patted me . That's how

. That's how Master Trini was. I never told him what

Master Trini was. I never told him what I was feeling. The thing is,

I was feeling. The thing is, I was admiring him. Then

I was admiring him. Then , about

, about a week later, he

a week later, he asked me again, "Hey, what was wrong?"

asked me again, "Hey, what was wrong?" So I told him, "I wish I could

So I told him, "I wish I could be like you."

be like you." Look, he said, "You're different, you

Look, he said, "You're different, you study, you give it your all, you can do it."

study, you give it your all, you can do it." Well, I was already a young man. So I

Well, I was already a young man. So I always had a lot of admiration for

always had a lot of admiration for him, for his wonderful way with things. He was one of

him, for his wonderful way with things. He was one of my great teachers, I do

my great teachers, I do n't know, Master Saul taught me

n't know, Master Saul taught me microbiology too.

Wonderful teachers, the butterfly gardens that We did it at

the butterfly gardens that We did it at CONALEP.

CONALEP. And I had to have my

And I had to have my teacher, Dimas.

teacher, Dimas. Uh, and well, I finished Calet, I didn't

Uh, and well, I finished Calet, I didn't continue with the

continue with the

biology track and everything that's taught here. Then I dedicated myself more to

here. Then I dedicated myself more to the humanities,

the humanities, anyway, I took a different path, but I keep

anyway, I took a different path, but I keep Professor Trini's principles very much in mind

Professor Trini's principles very much in mind now, and that's why it

now, and that's why it hurt me so much because

hurt me so much because now that I have the opportunity to be

now that I have the opportunity to be at the university, Dr.

at the university, Dr. Cristina knows, we just had a talk with

Cristina knows, we just had a talk with Dr. Mariaca,

Dr. Mariaca, and we're going to have a

and we're going to have a talk soon with our colleague

talk soon with our colleague Saldívar because we want to have a connection, there's already

Saldívar because we want to have a connection, there's already a connection, and we want to have much

a connection, and we want to have much more collaboration between ONich and Ecosur,

more collaboration between ONich and Ecosur, and I never told Dr. Mariaca

and I never told Dr. Mariaca or Dr. Cristina anything because I wanted to

or Dr. Cristina anything because I wanted to surprise them because I remembered

surprise them because I remembered that my teacher is here, so

that my teacher is here, so I said, "Professor Trini will surely see me there

I said, "Professor Trini will surely see me there ." I'm going to tell him that

." I'm going to tell him that his former student is now at UNich, and I

his former student is now at UNich, and I want to invite him to give lectures; I

want to invite him to give lectures; I want to invite him to help me. He

want to invite him to help me. He never found out.

But well, I think that's why

I think that's why I say it hasn't gone away, because it's

I say it hasn't gone away, because it's in each of us

in each of us and that memory that is in each

and that memory that is in each of us is difficult. to reach

of us is difficult. to reach him. I try to be that highly

him. I try to be that highly sensitive person. I don't think I can do it, I'm

sensitive person. I don't think I can do it, I'm too rude.

too rude. He had an elegance in saying

He had an elegance in saying things with such sensitivity that it

things with such sensitivity that it was truly admirable.

was truly admirable. And I repeat, that handling of his subject matter.

And I repeat, that handling of his subject matter. I keep telling my students, I

I keep telling my students, I mean, I want us to be students with

mean, I want us to be students with high social awareness.

high social awareness. and with knowledge of their subject. But

and with knowledge of their subject. But I'm thinking, believe me, my teacher

I'm thinking, believe me, my teacher Santillán.

Santillán. I had other role models, but I keep him very much in mind,

I had other role models, but I keep him very much in mind, and I tell my students

and I tell my students and all that, what is the point of high sensitivity

and all that, what is the point of high sensitivity and what is the point of knowledge? To

and what is the point of knowledge? To contribute to social transformation.

The teacher didn't say it like that, but that's how I saw it.

but that's how I saw it. If it doesn't stay in academia, it stays

If it doesn't stay in academia, it stays in the university, and we don't contribute to

in the university, and we don't contribute to social transformation. So I

social transformation. So I remember the teacher very much in that sense

remember the teacher very much in that sense and in his memory, dear Dr.

and in his memory, dear Dr. Cristina, dear Dr. Mariaqui, to all,

Cristina, dear Dr. Mariaqui, to all, for me Ecosur continues to be a great

for me Ecosur continues to be a great reference, I have said it, here there are great

reference, I have said it, here there are great researchers and

researchers and what better than to unite in memory

what better than to unite in memory of our teacher Trini, well, let's

of our teacher Trini, well, let's train the new young

train the new young university students.

university students. Eh, their hearts must be very

Eh, their hearts must be very big, their children, Doña Mari, eh,

big, their children, Doña Mari, eh, for this great man they had

for this great man they had close by and I see their sensitivity,

close by and I see their sensitivity, I see their words and I saw and heard

I see their words and I saw and heard Maestro Trini's wonderful words,

Maestro Trini's wonderful words, very precise, very sensitive. Well,

very precise, very sensitive. Well, thank you very much. I embrace you all

thank you very much. I embrace you all with my heart. One last thing I

with my heart. One last thing I remembered, I remembered because it was in

remembered, I remembered because it was in my community. He says that for that reason, it

my community. He says that for that reason, it was very special for him because I was with

was very special for him because I was with my grandfather when we

my grandfather when we went to catch field rats

went to catch field rats in Ochuc. I am from Okchuc. Then

in Ochuc. I am from Okchuc. Then he arrived in my community in Mesviljá, saying,

he arrived in my community in Mesviljá, saying, "Let's go and talk to your grandmother."

"Let's go and talk to your grandmother." I used to talk to him a lot about my grandfather, and I still

I used to talk to him a lot about my grandfather, and I still talk about my grandfather. And then

talk about my grandfather. And then I would talk about

I would talk about my grandfather's and my mother's knowledge of plants, and he wanted to

my grandfather's and my mother's knowledge of plants, and he wanted to go. Well, let's go to Mesviljá.

go. Well, let's go to Mesviljá. But then I found out

But then I found out that I didn't know how to swim in Mesay, a big

that I didn't know how to swim in Mesay, a big river. I say, teacher, after the

river. I say, teacher, after the talk with my grandfather we are going to go

talk with my grandfather we are going to go swimming. He just stared at me, but I was still

swimming. He just stared at me, but I was still interested in my

interested in my grandfather's conversation. He didn't listen to me. I think it's because I didn't

grandfather's conversation. He didn't listen to me. I think it's because I didn't know anything, I don't know. Anyway, the thing

know anything, I don't know. Anyway, the thing is, we tried the rat broth and I

is, we tried the rat broth and I remember him saying, "But later

remember him saying, "But later we have to talk seriously, eh, what's with

we have to talk seriously, eh, what's with the little rats around here? Then

the little rats around here? Then we enjoyed the rat broth." Well,

we enjoyed the rat broth." Well, afterwards I couldn't talk to him about

afterwards I couldn't talk to him about it anymore, but one of the adults I had

it anymore, but one of the adults I had with him because he was in my community,

with him because he was in my community, but it became very clear to me that

but it became very clear to me that I think he didn't listen to me because since he had

I think he didn't listen to me because since he had n't swum to go to the river, he was more

n't swum to go to the river, he was more interested in continuing to listen to my

interested in continuing to listen to my grandfather. Thank you very much, a hug to

grandfather. Thank you very much, a hug to everyone.

to close this cycle of uh... Let's

see, doctor, thank you. The truth is that I talk a lot,

thank you. The truth is that I talk a lot, but when I stand in front of a

but when I stand in front of a microphone,

microphone, stage fright kills me.

stage fright kills me. Well, there are many moments we

Well, there are many moments we lived with Trini and the truth is that there are

lived with Trini and the truth is that there are few friends that have hurt me

few friends that have hurt me so much to see,

so much to see, I swear. But I, well,

I swear. But I, well, on social media I've posted something that I

on social media I've posted something that I believe to be true, and that is that if there's one thing we

believe to be true, and that is that if there's one thing we have to thank Trini for, it's that he

have to thank Trini for, it's that he was a misunderstood philosopher.

was a misunderstood philosopher. Manuel Parra will surely be able to say

Manuel Parra will surely be able to say something about it, won't he? Always

something about it, won't he? Always opposing everything, opposing everything,

opposing everything, opposing everything, opposing everything. I do

opposing everything. I do n't want to be with any of my companions anymore because Trin

n't want to be with any of my companions anymore because Trin is there, it doesn't matter to me anymore.

is there, it doesn't matter to me anymore. But one characteristic of him, that is, is that he was

But one characteristic of him, that is, is that he was someone who was always thinking about the what,

someone who was always thinking about the what, how, why, for what purpose, when, for

how, why, for what purpose, when, for whom, etc. So, a

whom, etc. So, a real scientist, right? He was so opposed

real scientist, right? He was so opposed that when I met him he was about to finish

that when I met him he was about to finish his master's thesis and precisely because he

his master's thesis and precisely because he opposed the position of his

opposed the position of his supervising professor, he never graduated.

supervising professor, he never graduated. Then I had the good fortune to

Then I had the good fortune to accompany him to UNACH, to help him get into

accompany him to UNACH, to help him get into a new

a new master's program, and once he was in again

master's program, and once he was in again , he had a falling out with his professor, right?

, he had a falling out with his professor, right? But he didn't fight because he was bad, but

But he didn't fight because he was bad, but rather because he was good, right? Because

rather because he was good, right? Because Trini was a true philosopher. Yes. And

Trini was a true philosopher. Yes. And philosophers at the very least. And I'm going to get

philosophers at the very least. And I'm going to get ahead of myself quickly, I have to

ahead of myself quickly, I have to tell you, I owe a lot of things at

tell you, I owe a lot of things at Ecosur and at 1 o'clock they're going to charge me,

Ecosur and at 1 o'clock they're going to charge me, so I have to go there [laughs]. But

so I have to go there [laughs]. But after this digression, I want to say

after this digression, I want to say something. Years ago I proposed to the

something. Years ago I proposed to the technical council, at the CTC, that Ecosur already had

technical council, at the CTC, that Ecosur already had sufficient academic maturity to award

sufficient academic maturity to award honorary doctorates.

honorary doctorates. Sadly, many of my colleagues,

Sadly, many of my colleagues, pure biologists, because I could name

pure biologists, because I could name names, but I won't,

names, but I won't, said, "It's not true, Ecosur is not

said, "It's not true, Ecosur is not free, besides, give us names, give us

free, besides, give us names, give us names." And I just mentioned the

names." And I just mentioned the German name Trinidad. Yes, she hasn't

German name Trinidad. Yes, she hasn't finished her master's degree, but

finished her master's degree, but Trin didn't need to finish her master's degree.

Trin didn't need to finish her master's degree. Trin had more wisdom, more wisdom

Trin had more wisdom, more wisdom than all of us who were there together.

than all of us who were there together. And precisely, and this is a new request to

And precisely, and this is a new request to Ecosur, taking advantage of the fact that we were

Ecosur, taking advantage of the fact that we were all present here. Toño is not here, but

all present here. Toño is not here, but Toño, I asked him precisely at the

Toño, I asked him precisely at the beginning of his term, when he asked us for

beginning of his term, when he asked us for opinions, that we give a doctorate not as a

opinions, that we give a doctorate not as a cause to our dear Trini. Yes, I

cause to our dear Trini. Yes, I called him Trinfax for a simple

called him Trinfax for a simple reason, because the cartoonists of La Jornada

reason, because the cartoonists of La Jornada called Octavio Paz Octavio Pax,

called Octavio Paz Octavio Pax, right? Then I would say to him, well you're

right? Then I would say to him, well you're similar to this rascal, my dear Urano

similar to this rascal, my dear Urano Trini, so for me you're Trinfax,

Trini, so for me you're Trinfax, right? And well, the last

right? And well, the last time I practiced with him,

time I practiced with him, when he suffered his heart attack, which was so

when he suffered his heart attack, which was so severe and he began to lose his sight, he fell

severe and he began to lose his sight, he fell into an emotional slump.

into an emotional slump. We had the opportunity to talk

We had the opportunity to talk at length about what we thought about

at length about what we thought about life and death, and I

life and death, and I said to her, "Hey, Caron, you've just been

said to her, "Hey, Caron, you've just been reborn, so we have to take advantage of this,

reborn, so we have to take advantage of this, right? And just a couple of weeks ago I was

right? And just a couple of weeks ago I was saying to her, 'Well, Trini, what's up? Are you

saying to her, 'Well, Trini, what's up? Are you going to retire? What? Because

going to retire? What? Because all the old folks like

all the old folks like us are retiring.'" And he said, "No, Ramón, I'm never going

us are retiring.'" And he said, "No, Ramón, I'm never going to retire because the academy

to retire because the academy needs me." And I needed it, so that

needs me." And I needed it, so that probably in 15 of the 22 courses I have

probably in 15 of the 22 courses I have given on ethnobiology at Ecosur, Trini

given on ethnobiology at Ecosur, Trini has accompanied us,

has accompanied us, talking about a different school of

talking about a different school of thought about how to approach the

thought about how to approach the study of fauna and in particular

study of fauna and in particular the sheep that I mentioned earlier. Yes

the sheep that I mentioned earlier. Yes , this one, because Trini saw the

, this one, because Trini saw the human side. Trini was telling us about the affection of

human side. Trini was telling us about the affection of the shepherdesses, that's what he

the shepherdesses, that's what he called the women who

called the women who take care of the sheep,

take care of the sheep, the affection they have for their

the affection they have for their sheep, but that's the

sheep, but that's the affection one has for nature, is

affection one has for nature, is n't it? The way they called

n't it? The way they called each of them by name, how they

each of them by name, how they treated them as if they were their own children,

treated them as if they were their own children, because that's how Trini was. That was

because that's how Trini was. That was Triné's generosity. So, to

Triné's generosity. So, to conclude, I want to remind you of what

conclude, I want to remind you of what Chankim was saying, right? When a

Chankim was saying, right? When a great man dies, he doesn't just disappear, he becomes

great man dies, he doesn't just disappear, he becomes a star. And I also want to recall

a star. And I also want to recall something my teacher said, excuse me,

something my teacher said, excuse me, a reflection we made with Samuel

a reflection we made with Samuel Levi when our dear

Levi when our dear teacher Hernández Cholocot, who

teacher Hernández Cholocot, who was also Trini's teacher, passed away, that it wasn't right for

was also Trini's teacher, passed away, that it wasn't right for valuable people to die, that their

valuable people to die, that their brains should be preserved so they could

brains should be preserved so they could continue to reason. And believe me,

continue to reason. And believe me, Dr. Gómez Pompa,

Dr. Gómez Pompa, for example, had already died, and I didn't think about it, but now

for example, had already died, and I didn't think about it, but now that Trini is gone, I'm thinking about it again.

that Trini is gone, I'm thinking about it again. Trin has not left. Trin has stayed

Trin has not left. Trin has stayed with us. And hopefully this Mexicanized way

with us. And hopefully this Mexicanized way

of seeing science, of bringing together the hard sciences

science, of bringing together the hard sciences with the social sciences, of humanizing

with the social sciences, of humanizing the work of the scientist, as Trini did, will be

the work of the scientist, as Trini did, will be present in this generation and in those that

present in this generation and in those that follow. Because precisely Trini, without

follow. Because precisely Trini, without us realizing it, through his teaching,

us realizing it, through his teaching, through having been the first

through having been the first ethnobiologist from Chiapas,

ethnobiologist from Chiapas, even though he wasn't from Chiapas,

even though he wasn't from Chiapas, right? that it has opened that window

right? that it has opened that window into the relationship between human beings and

into the relationship between human beings and culture, as important as

culture, as important as all those who have spoken

all those who have spoken before me have already mentioned. I think Trini deserves that

before me have already mentioned. I think Trini deserves that doctorate, Noris cause. I wish they would listen to me,

doctorate, Noris cause. I wish they would listen to me, and I hope they will. Doña Mari

and I hope they will. Doña Mari Chamacunes and I grew up together as kids.

Chamacunes and I grew up together as kids. [laughter]

[laughter] Then we would really like to have you

Then we would really like to have you here at that honorary doctorate ceremony. And

here at that honorary doctorate ceremony. And if Ecosur were to

if Ecosur were to deny me this request, believe me. For

deny me this request, believe me. For me, it wasn't the biologist Trinidad

me, it wasn't the biologist Trinidad Alemán Santillán, it's Dr. Trinidad

Alemán Santillán, it's Dr. Trinidad Alemán Santillán. Thank you so much.

Thank you very much, Rosy.

Rosy. We're going to wrap this up here,

We're going to wrap this up here, Rosi from the Triumph Reserve.

Well, good afternoon. Already.

I come as a student of the biologist Trinidad and

a student of the biologist Trinidad and well, also as part of the reserve

well, also as part of the reserve of triumph, because I had the privilege

of triumph, because I had the privilege in both facets that he

in both facets that he was part of my training.

was part of my training. As a student,

As a student, he was a teacher who, when he gave us

he was a teacher who, when he gave us his exams, would

his exams, would only ask us two questions and then

only ask us two questions and then leave.

leave. And you answer. And that was the

And you answer. And that was the beauty of it, that it didn't allow us to

beauty of it, that it didn't allow us to memorize,

memorize, but to think.

but to think. And

And he valued how we answered each question.

he valued how we answered each question. He wanted students who

He wanted students who could one day do something for what they were

could one day do something for what they were studying, something that wasn't

studying, something that wasn't always like a prescription

always like a prescription or a medical prescription, right? He made us

or a medical prescription, right? He made us think. Our Bible was the Odum at

think. Our Bible was the Odum at that time; we always carried

that time; we always carried that book with us.

that book with us. And well, this was also before

And well, this was also before Bolaño, he was my godfather of the generation and

Bolaño, he was my godfather of the generation and at that time an anecdote from that day

at that time an anecdote from that day was that the biologist arrived as always

was that the biologist arrived as always with his yellow boots, his morale and well

with his yellow boots, his morale and well a little disheveled and one of the

a little disheveled and one of the mothers of my classmates grabbed a

mothers of my classmates grabbed a comb and made him comb the biologist's hair. And it

comb and made him comb the biologist's hair. And it 's one of the photos where he looked

's one of the photos where he looked great, so with his... he was

great, so with his... he was a master exemplary.

a master exemplary. Fortunately, I was privileged because

Fortunately, I was privileged because I had several teachers. Dr. Naranjo

I had several teachers. Dr. Naranjo was also part of my training and he

was also part of my training and he was the reviewer of my thesis. This, when

was the reviewer of my thesis. This, when I presented the tis, right? Man, he was the one who

I presented the tis, right? Man, he was the one who bombarded me with

bombarded me with questions the most,

questions the most, and I liked something he told me, because

and I liked something he told me, because he always argued that it wasn't just about

he always argued that it wasn't just about studying the animals,

studying the animals, but about how these animals

but about how these animals related to society or how the

related to society or how the information created an impact. At that time, my

information created an impact. At that time, my thesis was about

thesis was about relating birds to coffee systems,

relating birds to coffee systems,

and he said it was one of the first theses where he saw that it wasn't just

theses where he saw that it wasn't just inventories of species, but that it

inventories of species, but that it had a relationship with a

had a relationship with a productive activity. So, now that I've

productive activity. So, now that I've met him again at the

met him again at the Triunfo Reserve, where he's been an advisor for 16 years on

Triunfo Reserve, where he's been an advisor for 16 years on the reserve's technical sub-council, I recently came to get him to

the reserve's technical sub-council, I recently came to get him to

sign the minutes. He gave me some words that, as a mother and

some words that, as a mother and as a professional, really touched me.

as a professional, really touched me. Having such

Having such praise from a biologist towards me

praise from a biologist towards me as a professional, and being at the

as a professional, and being at the Triunfo Reserve, was the best gift I've ever received. It makes you

Triunfo Reserve, was the best gift I've ever received. It makes you

realize that what you do when you work is worthwhile, right? It's been

you do when you work is worthwhile, right? It's been two, two, three weeks since we

two, two, three weeks since we went with the biologist Trin for the

went with the biologist Trin for the last session of the year

last session of the year and we took quite a few pictures, they were

and we took quite a few pictures, they were pictures where he was laughing,

pictures where he was laughing, we had that privilege of seeing him there.

we had that privilege of seeing him there. This one, he won a prize there, you'll see him around

This one, he won a prize there, you'll see him around .

. And he truly was one of the best

And he truly was one of the best teachers I've ever had, and I'm

teachers I've ever had, and I'm sure he's one of the best teachers of all

sure he's one of the best teachers of all his students. He

his students. He planted a seed that is surely

planted a seed that is surely growing in each of us.

growing in each of us. Thanks a lot. Thank you for giving us

Thanks a lot. Thank you for giving us a teacher like him.

a teacher like him. Thank you very much, Rossi. Okay, let's

Thank you very much, Rossi. Okay, let's put on the video that was pending so

put on the video that was pending so we can

we can listen

listen to our dear Trini. Go ahead, Hugo,

to our dear Trini. Go ahead, Hugo, please.

Well, I want to start by thanking you for

thanking you for the invitation to remember

the invitation to remember these moments of a very

these moments of a very important process. They ca

institution like the one that was the beginning of the trade union movement. While

trade union movement. While the technical issue is being sorted out, I should

the technical issue is being sorted out, I should also mention that he was my teacher,

also mention that he was my teacher, but I have to go

but I have to go back a bit.

back a bit. I know him or I knew him.

I know him or I knew him. It was the beginning of the

It was the beginning of the union

union 37 years.

37 years. And well, what can I say about him? Of everything they

And well, what can I say about him? Of everything they already said. But I do want to

already said. But I do want to say something about Trin, as Ramón already said, in

say something about Trin, as Ramón already said, in meetings he was suddenly the

meetings he was suddenly the awkward friend, right? Because he was always

awkward friend, right? Because he was always ranting,

ranting, but he ranted with arguments, which

but he ranted with arguments, which was the important thing. And I want to mention two

was the important thing. And I want to mention two things that made notable changes here

things that made notable changes here in Ecosur. He strongly advocated

in Ecosur. He strongly advocated for an event we hold

for an event we hold every year called Sewing

every year called Sewing Open Doors.

Open Doors. And he was a very strong advocate for this

And he was a very strong advocate for this event,

event, and he said, "Until we

and he said, "Until we institutionalize it, this isn't going to

institutionalize it, this isn't going to work." And thanks to him and the boost he

work." And thanks to him and the boost he gave it, today this event has a different face

gave it, today this event has a different face than it did 20 years ago.

than it did 20 years ago. This event began in 2000

This event began in 2000 and thanks to Trini's efforts,

and thanks to Trini's efforts, the unit coordination offices

the unit coordination offices now have a budget allocation to make it happen

now have a budget allocation to make it happen . It has an

. It has an organization in place to make it happen.

organization in place to make it happen. So, here at Ecosur, I used that a lot

So, here at Ecosur, I used that a lot as an example, as one of the examples

as an example, as one of the examples of that intransigence that I brought to every

of that intransigence that I brought to every meeting. And at the level of, for example,

meeting. And at the level of, for example, protected natural areas,

protected natural areas, he was one of the driving forces behind creating the

he was one of the driving forces behind creating the network of advisory councils for the

network of advisory councils for the southern border, wasn't he? So in one meeting I was

southern border, wasn't he? So in one meeting I was telling a regional director, and here's

telling a regional director, and here's Janet, who won't let me lie, that

Janet, who won't let me lie, that the advisory councils are the social arm

the advisory councils are the social arm that makes the

that makes the biosphere reserves and protected natural areas strong,

biosphere reserves and protected natural areas strong, and that until that moment they hadn't made that

and that until that moment they hadn't made that visible,

visible, and it really pushed the idea of working with

and it really pushed the idea of working with the people, right? So, those were changes,

the people, right? So, those were changes, that's it, important changes he made in

that's it, important changes he made in different institutions, right? We've

different institutions, right? We've heard many stories, but that

heard many stories, but that was the power of their intransigence, wasn't it? He

was the power of their intransigence, wasn't it? He was very strong in that sense

was very strong in that sense because even if you debated him, he would beat you,

because even if you debated him, he would beat you, right? So there are the results.

right? So there are the results. Okay, let's watch the video.

Well, I want to start by thanking you for

thanking you for the invitation to remember

the invitation to remember these moments of a very

these moments of a very important process in the institution, which was

important process in the institution, which was the beginning of the union movement

the beginning of the union movement that has now borne fruit in

that has now borne fruit in a very successful way. For this I

a very successful way. For this I have to

have to go back 40 years to the

go back 40 years to the beginnings of the trade union movement in what

beginnings of the trade union movement in what was then the CES. I

was then the CES. I must say that the motivation, the

must say that the motivation, the main reason why the union was formed,

main reason why the union was formed, was the search for

was the search for job security.

job security. The institution was almost

The institution was almost 10 years old and the relationship it maintained with

10 years old and the relationship it maintained with the academics was through

the academics was through annual contracts, so we had neither

annual contracts, so we had neither seniority nor some other benefits

seniority nor some other benefits and every June was the month of signing

and every June was the month of signing contracts and it was very easy to be left out

contracts and it was very easy to be left out of the institution simply

of the institution simply because we were not given the contract.

because we were not given the contract. Then the idea of organizing a

Then the idea of organizing a union was considered; there had been previous attempts that did

union was considered; there had been previous attempts that did not bear fruit, and finally around 1982-83

not bear fruit, and finally around 1982-83 what would become the

what would become the subsí was formed.

subsí was formed. Well, I must say it wasn't an

Well, I must say it wasn't an easy task.

easy task. Let us remember that around the 1980s,

Let us remember that around the 1980s, perhaps I don't know yet, but

perhaps I don't know yet, but unionism in Mexico was very

unionism in Mexico was very strongly controlled by

strongly controlled by pro-government corporations. In other words,

pro-government corporations. In other words, any union movement had to

any union movement had to be endorsed by the employer or

be endorsed by the employer or induced by the employer in order to

induced by the employer in order to remain within the guidelines

remain within the guidelines that the federal government considered

that the federal government considered appropriate for the union movement.

appropriate for the union movement. At CES we didn't want this

At CES we didn't want this and we were looking for a more

and we were looking for a more independent movement.

independent movement. Uh, and doing this obviously had to be

Uh, and doing this obviously had to be done in secret. We

done in secret. We could not express our intentions

could not express our intentions because there was fear of reprisals.

because there was fear of reprisals. So, discussion groups were organized

So, discussion groups were organized that met at the homes

that met at the homes of some colleagues and analyzed the

of some colleagues and analyzed the situation, and gradually they

situation, and gradually they prepared the documents

prepared the documents required to register the

required to register the union. These

union. These were quite complicated tasks, that

were quite complicated tasks, that is, the preparation, the drafting of the

is, the preparation, the drafting of the statutes, the regulations, the

statutes, the regulations, the collection of information from those who

collection of information from those who wanted to be members, in

wanted to be members, in short, a whole series of paperwork. It was a

short, a whole series of paperwork. It was a rather complicated process that had to be

rather complicated process that had to be carried out in secret because, I mean,

carried out in secret because, I mean, there was an initial series of meetings.

Well, there you have the words of the good Trini regarding the

the good Trini regarding the creation of the union here in our

creation of the union here in our institution and now we are going to move on to

institution and now we are going to move on to an activity that they have prepared for us.

Well, good day to everyone, and well, today we have gathered together in sorrow,

today we have gathered together in sorrow, but also to honor the path of a

but also to honor the path of a teacher. And well, sometimes the

teacher. And well, sometimes the support isn't in the speech,

support isn't in the speech, sometimes we need silence.

sometimes we need silence. And I would like to ask everyone if

And I would like to ask everyone if we can go to this space near

we can go to this space near the family, make a small circle to

the family, make a small circle to accompany the family and accompany each other

accompany the family and accompany each other as a community in this absence.

as a community in this absence. So if you would be so kind as to pass it on,

So if you would be so kind as to pass it on, please, you

can take one and pass it on to the others, please.

Taking a small candle and passing them around can also work. They can take a small

can also work. They can take a small candle and pass it over.

So, let's form a little circle to be with the family here,

to be with the family here, please.

We're going to have to make a pair. So, let's make a circle so we can

So, let's make a circle so we can all look at each other, please, especially

all look at each other, please, especially those who are still in the back and haven't

those who are still in the back and haven't arrived yet. They

all have a little candle. Everyone has a candle.

and here we are, community to us, to accompany each other in this

to accompany each other in this heavy absence. We have said profoundly that

heavy absence. We have said profoundly that here it is, that here it will walk, and that here it

here it is, that here it will walk, and that here it will germinate, because the most beautiful thing is not that it

will germinate, because the most beautiful thing is not that it stays as it is, but that it

stays as it is, but that it germinates, that it sprouts, that what

germinates, that it sprouts, that what he taught us multiplies.

he taught us multiplies. And from this place, we know

And from this place, we know people who could put words in our mouths

people who could put words in our mouths and say how sorry we are

and say how sorry we are or how many anecdotes we experienced from

or how many anecdotes we experienced from contact with him.

contact with him. But we know other people who

But we know other people who cannot speak out and only have

cannot speak out and only have silence.

silence. And from that silence I ask you to

And from that silence I ask you to accompany us with the light.

So, I ask the family to light the first three lights and

light the first three lights and plant them on that little board,

plant them on that little board, and all the other people will take their

and all the other people will take their light and just

light and just accompany them here in silence. Of

accompany them here in silence. Of course, if anyone has

course, if anyone has any comments, they can add them. But my

any comments, they can add them. But my invitation is that from this silence,

invitation is that from this silence, from this presence,

from this presence, from this simplicity of not speaking,

from this simplicity of not speaking, but from the language of being here, we

but from the language of being here, we accompany and support and

accompany and support and embrace his family.

Here we are, Trini, with you, friend, brother, teacher, companion, husband,

brother, teacher, companion, husband, father,

father, son. We are here with you, accompanying

son. We are here with you, accompanying your light.

Don't worry, right now what... And now, each one silently peeks out

what... And now, each one silently peeks out , lights their candle and

, lights their candle and plants it about

plants it about the light that the family has planted.

the light that the family has planted. Thank you to those who are joining us virtually

Thank you to those who are joining us virtually .

. We are here at a very special moment,

We are here at a very special moment, in silence,

in silence, lighting some candles so that this light

lighting some candles so that this light continues to accompany

continues to accompany Trini's light.

If there are any words or breaths that accompany a

breaths that accompany a hug that we haven't yet

hug that we haven't yet given each other.

given each other. This is a good time to do it,

This is a good time to do it, to join us.

And those of us who can will stay close to the family here by their side, and

close to the family here by their side, and we will let the little candles

we will let the little candles accompany us in this moment, in this

accompany us in this moment, in this silence. Uncle.

Well, let's wrap up this activity by handing out

activity by handing out some flowers.

some flowers. Uh,

Uh, Dr. Cristina tells me there's a...

Dr. Cristina tells me there's a... Yes.

Well, let's deliver this bouquet to the family.

bouquet to the family. And we invite everyone to join us for a

And we invite everyone to join us for a minute of applause for our

minute of applause for our beloved Triple.

Well, Cris, I don't know if I should even close with a few words.

few words. I just want to apologize

I just want to apologize because this was very rushed, it was very

because this was very rushed, it was very fast, but it was necessary. We talked

fast, but it was necessary. We talked with the family on Thursday, we didn't

with the family on Thursday, we didn't have time to say goodbye,

have time to say goodbye, to talk about what

to talk about what his departure meant to us, and if we

his departure meant to us, and if we had left it for longer, I don't

had left it for longer, I don't know, it would have been different.

know, it would have been different. So, this was necessary, but I

So, this was necessary, but I swear it has been very difficult for

swear it has been very difficult for the various people who

the various people who helped us, who collaborated, the

helped us, who collaborated, the effort they had to make, that

effort they had to make, that we had to make to achieve it. Well, I

we had to make to achieve it. Well, I would like to thank everyone for

would like to thank everyone for their participation, their collaboration,

their participation, their collaboration, these spontaneous proposals that

these spontaneous proposals that arose, which in the end

arose, which in the end is this need, this duty to

is this need, this duty to recognize, to thank, I don't even

recognize, to thank, I don't even have the words, right? Of

have the words, right? Of everything that Trini gave us,

everything that Trini gave us, shared with us, because it was necessary. So,

shared with us, because it was necessary. So, I really want to thank

I really want to thank everyone for their participation, for

everyone for their participation, for the memories, for the effort to come,

the memories, for the effort to come, to be here, despite all the

to be here, despite all the obstacles that prevented us from

obstacles that prevented us from doing this. It's great that we

doing this. It's great that we all had

all had the will to carry it out, and

the will to carry it out, and truly, thank you very much to the family.

Well, as Ramón said, when we have the honor and the cause, we will

we have the honor and the cause, we will return because we are going to fight for

return because we are going to fight for it. Well, thank you very much. Thank you.

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Homenaje al Mtro. Trinidad Alemán Santillan