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This content is an interview with Kevin Trudeau, a controversial figure known for his past infomercials, bestselling books, and legal troubles. The discussion centers on his philosophy of personal empowerment, exposing societal control mechanisms, and practical advice on manifesting desires and achieving success.
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And today is a special day for me
because this is where the student gets
to meet the teacher. In 2010, I put on
the CD cassette tapes and started
listening to something called Your Wish
Is Your Command. And today we have the
myth, the legend, the author of this.
He's been all around for many years. You
know who he is. His name is Kevin
Trudeau. Kevin, welcome to the show.
>> Glad to be here. My pleasure.
>> Oh, I'm just I'm so excited. I can't
wait to deep dive into everything that's
probably been going on for the last
little while for you. But really, I
mean, into some of this knowledge that
personally has changed my life. Uh
knowledge that I truly believe in a
world that we live in today. People need
to hear this. They need to see this.
with all the scops going on. Everything
you've been saying with this whole like
how they're trying to control us, all of
it. It's it's so loud. You can't undeny
it. Anyway, you can't you can't fight it
unless you're just completely ignorant.
So, I'm excited. But for those of for
those of the people listening, they may
not know who Kevin Trudeau is. They
maybe speak the the the the name might
be a myth between part visionary and I
have to say it, maybe part villain. But
for those who don't know who you are,
tell us a little bit about who is Kevin
Trudeau and how did you, you know, how
do we end up here today?
>> Well, it depends on how old somebody is.
If uh they go back to the '9s, they know
me as the infomercial king. I produce
more winning infomercials and TV uh in
America and around the world than
anybody in history. Generated over 10
billion in sales. Uh if you're in
Europe, you know know me as the owner of
the Golf Channel, Shop America, which
was another home shopping channel. We
beat out Home Shopping Network for the
number two spot after QVC and also an
entertainment channel called you UTV.
It's all about you. I was I hosted the
Kevin Kevin and Debbie show. And so I
had three big TV networks there. If you
were in Australia, you know me as the
mining magnet because I had big mining
operations there. Uh and recently, if
you in the last 20 years, you might know
me as a number one New York Times
bestselling author of Natural Cures,
They Don't Want You to Know About. That
book was number one on the New York
Times list 26 weeks in a row. sold 50
million copies. My other five books sold
another 50 million. So got a 100 million
books sold. You know, my enterprises
have done about 25 billion in sales
around the year. But it depends on what
you're reading. You know, it's like
Kevin Trudeau is the snake oil salesman,
the scam artist. U my first thing was
mega memory, how to improve your memory,
uh natural cures, and then you mentioned
your wish is your command. And I have
had a had a host of enterprises, but at
the end of the day, I've really been
exposing the things that they don't want
you to know about. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And today, all the things I talked about
15, 20 years ago are proven to be 100%
true. I talked about red dye. I talked
about fluoride in the water. I talked
about talcum powder being a cause of
cancer. And NBC crucified me. NBC did
this big expose and ABC. How dare you
say that Johnson's baby powder with talc
is bad for babies and causes cancer. I
mean, they crucified me. And today,
that goes in the Kevin was right file
because now we know because it's banned.
It's off the market. We now know. It's
been proven. I I knew it 20 years ago,
25 years ago when I said it. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So,
>> So,
there's a there's an amazing history.
But as you said, you know, your wish is
your command, how to manifest your
desires, law of attraction, how to
create your your goals and set goals and
achieve goals is is a lot of people know
me for that as well. Yeah. I I there's
so much here. I don't even know where to
go because uh I just there's I love it
because I you know, for those we didn't
talk about, you got in trouble with one
of those books.
>> Yeah. When I wrote natural cures, they
don't want you to know about um I
exposed the drug companies and remember
this is
>> you're basically exposing what now?
Black rock and right Vanguard.
>> That's correct. I exposed it all and
this is 20 years ago before the
internet. I was the only voice out
there. But I was on TV every single day.
I had more impressions than Oprah
Winfrey back then. So I was all over the
television and and the government just
went after me. They they sat me down and
said, "You have to stop doing this,
otherwise we're going to go after you."
And and I made a a decision that I was
going to stand up for free speech and
continue to expose government and
corporate corruption and what the drug
companies were doing. And I knew they
told me, "We're going to get you
somehow." So the first thing they did is
sent the IRS in. And the IRS like lived
in my office for, you know, two years
and they owed me three million. [laughter]
[laughter]
>> Yeah. So, so that didn't work.
>> But no one knows that. No one believes
that, right? They don't they don't Yeah.
>> No. So, the IRS was here, but I actually
always overpaid my taxes. So, when they
did the audit, they actually had to give
me money. So, that didn't work. And then
they sent after the FDA to look at all
of our supplements and that didn't work.
Then they sent the FTC and that didn't
work. So, you know, they got me on
contempt of court, which isn't even a
crime. The judge ordered me a I don't
want to say a corrupt judge. He's still
on the bench, but he ordered me to stop
talking about my books on TV in the way
that I wanted to talk about them. I
said, "That's a First Amendment issue."
And I continued to do it. And he said,
"You're willfully violating my order.
That's contempt of court." And he put me
in prison for 10 years. >> Years.
>> Years.
>> The longest sentence in the history of
America for contempt of court. And of
course, the government has the media in
their back pocket. So they called me a
snake oil salesman, then a scammer, and
all this other stuff. But there's
hundreds of millions of customers around
the world that love the material that I
produced, my books and other material,
have benefited from it dramatically,
like yourself. You listen to the material.
material.
>> So the only people that really had
anything bad to say about me was the
government. The people that I was
exposing. So it's no surprise. Keith, I
don't want to say I'm not you're you're
not this guy. So, I don't want to say
this in uh I do not want anyone I want
to be very clear now. You got to watch
everything you freaking say today,
right? I am not comparing you to this
guy, but you're like you were like the
old age, I guess you would call it, of
Andrew Tate, like in the sense of them
coming after of of Trump of these people
that they're coming after smearing
campaign sh lying lying. The thing you
didn't have back then which probably
would have kept you out of jail was a
social media.
>> That's right. Well, you didn't you
didn't have enough power if we all we
were ever watching was what they were saying.
saying.
>> That's exactly that's exactly correct.
>> You would not be I guarantee you would
not be in jail if that was happening
today cuz they wouldn't let them. They
would be they would be crucified if that happened.
happened.
>> Yeah. Well, I I agree. But it's a
different time. And I I I was willing to
pay that price for free speech and for
ethics and integrity. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> That's why I'm back and I'm continuing
to do what I did when I when I went
away. I'm just not going to stop. And if
they come after me again, that's, you know,
know,
>> you're ready and stronger than ever. Uh,
so I Okay, I love it. So, let's talk
about So, we, you know, we're talking
about the FDA here. We're talking about
what, you know, what they don't want us
to know. Why do you think? It's to me
it's a very hard thing to understand.
Are they all just sitting in a room and
saying, "How can we actually keep these
people so drugged up, so poisoned, so
they're actually dying, so they got to
spend more money in in, you know, in in
pharmaceuticals and whatnot?" Like, is
that what's actually happening? Or are
they just trying to cut corners, cut
cost, and as a as a result of that,
they're using shittier products. They're
using these things that are causing
cancerous and all these side effects.
>> Well, you know, there's two sides of
this. Uh, if you ever watch the History
Channel, they have a great series called
the the food that built America. And
when you watch the history of, let's
say, Craft, you know, Craft Macaroni and
Cheese, Craft American Cheese singles,
the owner of Craft didn't want to hurt
people. He was trying to produce a
product that had a a stable shelf life
so that people could have cheese
>> and that people could have convenience.
So, he had no ill intent. He was trying
to do something that he thought was good
and make money in the process. Now, it
turned out that it was bad. Okay, it's,
you know, trans fats, clogs up your
arteries, makes you depressed, screws up
your hormones, makes you blow up like a
balloon and get fat. Okay, but he didn't
know that that that that's what was
happening. He was just trying to produce
a product that he thought was convenient
and and get people to buy cheese that
didn't didn't go bad and didn't spoil. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So, a lot of these people didn't have
evil motives. They had profit motives.
And they again they thought they were
benefiting society by adding convenience
and things that you know society didn't
have. And then there's the other side of
the coin and these are the people that
are specifically doing things that they
know are detrimental for control. They
want the masses subdued. And if you look
throughout history, the the people that
are in the control positions want the masses
masses
subdued. They want the masses dosile.
They want the masses submissive,
>> basically easy to control. That way you
don't have rebellion and things like
that and people in power stay in power.
>> The British did this to the Chinese by
getting everybody on opium. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. And the Nazis did it in the uh in
the ghettos. I mean, you had hundreds of
thousands of people in the ghettos. You
had a couple hundred Nazi guards. How
come there wasn't an uprising? Because
they became dosile. Why? The Nazis put
fluoride in the drinking water. So as
the people were drinking water the
fluoride was reducing the thyroid making
people uh the men low in testosterone
and making them very slow. Today the
government puts soy in all the all the
food which increases uh estrogen and
reduces testosterone making guys much
more dosile.
>> They do the same thing with high
fructose corn syrup and all corn
products. It's a genetically modified
corn by Monsanto that was specifically
designed to get cattle fat faster and
make them doile. So now it's in
virtually all of the food that we eat
and we wonder why we're tired and we
don't have any drive or motivation and
we don't want to fight back. Didn't you
get guys who have a lot of testosterone?
Whether you like Trump or not, that's
not the question. This guy was shot. he
was shot at and he pushes the Secret
Service away, jumps up and throws it and
goes fight. I mean this guy is
>> okay like him or not and that's not the
issue. The point is
>> what a son of a gun.
>> I mean he is gonna you push him and his
instinct, his drive, it's fight and the
and the people in power don't want
somebody who will fight back.
>> No. No. I I couldn't agree with you.
Like I'm just starting to learn this
honestly. I I feel like, you know, I'
I've been sleeping this entire time and
it was and I don't want to bring it up,
but it was with the whole Charlie Kirk
thing. And I knew right away I'm like,
something doesn't something's not adding
up. So, I actually just started doing
not a lot of research. I wasn't actually
even doing research of the whole murder
because there was too many people doing
that. I was doing more of the research
of like how like how do they control
society? Like how does what if they want
to do things and control what are the
things they do? So, I started looking at
the scops playbook. People just go crazy
when you say it. Scop's playbook is the
playbook that freaking governments
created. It's been around for hundreds
and hundreds of years. And what it's
when you read it, it's like very simple.
The first thing they do is what? Division.
Division.
Are we more divided than ever in this
entire world that I've ever lived? Okay.
Okay. You can't argue that. Like, can
you argue that we're a divided country
or divided world? We're just a divided
humans are divided on so many
forefronts, which I think is actually
really sad. But why? Because they want
us to be. And then what do they do? They
can they create uh chaos. How do they
create chaos? Well, look at the
headlines. They're not there to inform
anymore. They're there to inflame. And
then right when all the chaos is
happening, what do they do? They give
you the prescription. They say, "Oh, you
want you want us to fix it? Okay, here
here's your here's your vaccine. Here's
your solve." Which is the same thing
they wanted from the beginning. So, I'm
I'm with you and I don't care. I'm loud
about it now because, you know, I think
people need to hear it. They need to
hear it. But back then when you were
screaming this 20 years ago, nobody was
listening. Like people were not like
they they were scared of you. Well, a
lot of people were listening because my
book sold 50 million copies. So So they
were and that I'll tell you what that
that was the trigger. You know, my book
was the number one book natural cures
they don't want you to know about. That
book was the bestselling book Walmart
ever had. When you walked into a Walmart
store, there were like 10 pallets with
hundreds and hundreds of books on it and
they were they were just blowing them
out like crazy. They couldn't believe
it. And and the guy from Walmart called
me and he says, "You know, Trudeau,
we're really pissed off at you. Yes, you
we sold a lot of your books and made a
lot of money, but because of your damn
book, our customers are demanding
organic food at Walmart. So, we have to
now put organic food in, which is a big
hassle for us."
McDonald's called me and said, "It's
because of you that our customers are
demanding better quality product. We're
going to have to bring something in."
So, we're bringing in Paul Newman
organic salad dressing on their salads.
Goes at least we're doing something. You
know, we don't sell a lot of salads, but
at least that way we can say, "Oh, yeah.
We're doing, you know, we have organic
stuff here."
>> So, it did make an impact and it did
wake up a lot of people. uh that book
natural cures and of course the your
wish is your command woke up people to
the fact that they do have power over
yeah their life they can create the life
they want if they use the same
techniques that the privileged elite use
>> so let's talk about that because I think
a lot of people that are listening here
may have not listened to your know your
wishes your command and we hear you know
we hear the oh the secret right you can
manifest but there's actually there's a
nuance there and that's what I would
love to get into into more. So if
someone, you know, business owner or
even anybody sitting there and they just
heard you say you can actually create
your own power and actually get what you
want, you I love the uh example you
always said you can actually be your own genie,
genie,
>> right? When you when you when you were
writing that and when you were thinking
about this, where did you see this
before? Like where did this come from?
Uh you talked about the brotherhood.
Like were you part of a brotherhood or
you just know it existed and you knew
they were doing something? You know,
back in 1969 when I was six years old, I
was brought into an organization called
the Brotherhood. It's a secret society.
It's it's a real secret society because
very few people have heard about it.
>> Only a few people have ever talked about it.
it.
>> When you hear of secret societies, you
think of the Freemasons. You think maybe
of Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove,
Bilderberg Group. Well, they're not so
secret because you know all about them,
right? I mean, oh yeah. You know, I
mean, the president of the United
States, both of them, both Bushes were
members of Skull and Bones. So was John
Kerry. And they said, "Hey, I joined
Skull and Bones, a secret." They call it
a secret society. So secret that's all I
can say about it.
>> And then, you know, we have Bohemian
Grove where Reagan was and Kissinger and
I was there too and others. And nobody
will talk about what goes on behind, you
know, in that grove in California. uh
Bilderberg group, you know, you see me
coming out of the building. So, you
know, at the in Rottak Eaggan at Sea
Hotel, it's like there's Trudeau, you
know, with with Kissinger, you know,
it's like he's there. Okay, what goes on
behind it? So that there are secret
societies, but the Brotherhood is a very
unique one because it's almost a little
bit sci-fi because the Brotherhood takes
people with natural abilities, we'll
call it mental abilities, or you could
call it psychic abilities,
and it trains you on how to use your
mind and how to use those abilities, and
then uses the people who they've trained
for their purposes. and their purpose is
to better mankind.
That's arguable. That's why I left.
>> Okay. I was going to say you're clearly
not I don't think you're part of this
anymore because
>> No, I rose to talking about this. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I rose to the top ranks. I went
through all the training. I I released
my abilities fully and I left the
organization and I was the only person
to ever leave the group. And the reason
I'm still alive is for several years
before I left, uh, Kissinger was a
member and he was a friend of mine,
Gorbachoff was a member. He was a friend
of mine. I have pictures of all of us
traveling around the world together. You
they're on my website so people know
that it's, you know, this is the real
deal. But when I left, I had a fail safe
that I set up globally. And if anything
happened to me, I got accidentally hit
by a bus or if I got struck by lightning,
lightning,
>> would all come out,
>> everything was going to be let out. And
and so that's the only reason, quite
frankly, I'm still here. They're still
trying to shut me up. They they tried
that by putting me in prison for 10 years.
years.
>> They tried it by shutting down all my
bank accounts. You know, why is it you
have a bank for 20 years, you put a
billion and$2 billion dollars through
it, and then they call you and go, "Oh,
you get a letter. Uh, we're closing your
account. Why? We can't tell you." >> Yeah,
>> Yeah,
>> of course I know why. because the
brotherhood said, "Let's try to wipe him
out financially or at least stop him
from operating so we can silence him."
>> So that's what did we learn? I mean, I
we talk about it obviously in in the in
the book. We can't, you know, teach it
all on one podcast, but if I were to say
like some of the most powerful things
you learned in that whole time there
where when it comes to mindset and being
able to uh be the genie of your own
life, like what were become of the
powerful lessons or tools uh that people
can just start thinking about even trying?
trying?
>> Yeah, I'm going to give I'll give you a
couple of them right here. There's
actually we learned an algorithm and
this is before the word algorithm was
used and it's it's numerical and so it
had 40 points in it and each of the
points got a numerical value and
depending on on how good you were at
that particular point in the algorithm
would determine what the numerical value
was and then you added it up and the was
it's a formula. So that's you know times
this plus this times that
>> and then you have a number and based on
that number will determine your ability
to virtually manifest your reality or
create what you want or set a goal and
achieve it. One of the things that is in
that algorithm is a person has to dream
big. Now think about this. This is what
most people do and I this had just
happened to me two six months ago. I'm
I'm in a friend of mine's house in
Beverly Hills. It's a $35 million
mansion right above the Beverly Hills
Hotel. Gorgeous. Actually, it's probably
cost more than 50 million today. He
bought it for 35.
>> So, it's this gorgeous mansion and I and
he lets me stay there. So, I'm staying
there and I had some friends over and I
I said, "You know, we should get a
plane. We should get like a Challenger
350. It's I think a $50 million plane."
And [snorts] one of the people there
said, [laughter]
"Oh, when we have the money, then we'll
talk about that."
>> Yeah. And I said, "That's the point.
That's what losers do. What you have to
do is when you don't have the money,
then you start dreaming big because
that's the only way that the universe is
going to put money into your life. What
most people do is they have dreams, but
they don't even look at their dreams
anymore. What they do is they look at
their income and they go, I make this
much money. What can I do?"
And the amount of money they make
determines their ability to think or
imagine or dream. That's not what
wealthy people do. In order to expand
your field, expand your capability to
get things off the radar screen to start
coming into your life to open up the
windows of heaven if you're a Christian
and have blessings come in. What you
have to do is you have to dream big.
Scripturally, it says a man without a
vision will perish. A man without a
dream will die. You have to dream big.
>> So, you have to think really big.
There's a great book that I recommend
everybody read called The Magic of
Thinking Big.
>> So you have to think big. Now doesn't
mean you live in a dream world. I was
>> I was going to say there's a nuance
here, right?
>> So here's the nuance. The nuance is some
people are delusional.
>> So they live in a dream world. You have
to have a dream, but you can't live in a
dream world. So after you dream,
then you look at your current situation
and you go to work
>> and you work on on what's the next
logical step. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> What's the next step? What's the next
goal that I can hit? Okay, I dream big,
but now I'm coming back to Earth.
>> But by dreaming big, I expanded myself,
right? It's like stretching a rubber
band. And now I said, "Okay,
I make 100 grand a year. I'm going to
make 150." And now you set your next target.
target.
>> Well, if you make 150, you can't buy
that plane. But it's a step closer,
isn't it? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So, you have to dream, but then you come
back to your current situation and you
set your goal or target or objective or
chief aim as the next logical step and
you shoot for [clears throat] that and
and you work like a like a dog to get
that done. And as you start getting
there, you start going back to your
dream and then go back to work. You
visit the dream and come back to work.
You visit the dream and come back to
work. And most people don't dream at all
or they're delusional. They live in a
dream world.
>> Meaning, and and I just want to when you
say they live in a dream world, they can
dream big, but then they just don't do anything.
anything.
>> They don't do anything. They sit in
front of the TV. I'm going to use the
law of attraction and just think about
my dreams and I got my vision board and
Okay. Yeah. And I'm a billionaire and
I'm a billionaire and I'm a billionaire.
Look, successful people are always too
busy doing what the other guys are still
talking about.
>> Yeah. Okay. I love that one. Yeah. So,
why do you think though? Why do you
think these people who can there and I
think there's an authentic way because
you haven't gone deeper in that, but
like correct me if I'm wrong. There's a
way to think or dream big. And there's a
way to dream big where you actually feel
it. Like you feel it in your soul. You
feel it in your bones. Like it actually
changes you almost like physiology
changes. Right. And dopamine's released
because you actually can believe it to
be true. You believe you're worthy of it.
it.
>> That's a that's that's a different
different step. So dreaming is one step.
So you don't have to believe you can
achieve your dream. As a matter of fact,
your dream should be so big
>> that they scare you.
>> You think there's no way it could
happen. So you don't have to believe in
the dream or you attaining your dream
just by dreaming. Go look at the super
yacht that's $200 million. Go look at
the plane. Go look at the big 1020
million mansions and you're thinking
there's no way I'll ever get this. You
can say that, but you're still changing
because you're still expanding. That's
the dream. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> But then you you use the magic word
belief. And actually, it's a better word
is confidence.
Now, when you set your target of what
you're shooting for, your goal, you do
have to have confidence that you will
achieve it. Now, there was a great book
came out in 1959. I think it was 1959
called The Magic of Believing. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Now, do you ever hear of a guy named Liberace?
Liberace?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, Liberace was this
piano player and he wore all these rings
and very flamboyant.
>> He was a nobody and he actually wasn't a
very good piano player. He he didn't
know how to play properly. So, he would
like move his hand the wrong way when he
was playing. But he would had a nice
smile, a handsome guy, but he didn't he
wasn't making it. And then he read a
book called The Magic of Believing. And
within one year, he became the most
known well-known entertainer in the
world. He had a TV show, Liberace Show.
He went from virtually zero to the most
famous person on the planet in the
entertainment world.
>> And he actually, we found the video clip
of him on his show holding up that book.
He goes, "It's because of this book, The
Magic of Believing." >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> That because it made it made all the
difference. And he goes, "And there's a
song called The Magic of Believing. Let
me play it for you." And he plays this
song. But he he he was saying, "This is
the book that changed my life." And you
can't believe that you're going to
achieve this $20 million mansion when
you're making 100 grand a year. But you
can believe or have confidence
and feel as now as if you were achieving
150 grand a year. See, that's a that's
that's that's a that's not too steep a
gradient. It's it's a logical step. Hey,
I have confidence. And I can see myself
making 150. And I can feel now as if I
were and I can actually see myself.
So that's where you get visceral. That's
where you bring that in.
Okay. So you're
>> I'm I'm getting like oh my like I was
like am I having flashbacks and I'm like
yeah because you're speaking to the
freaking author of all of this cuz I and
I actually don't remember now if this
was in your wish your command but there
was a thing well boy I've lived my life
since I've learned this for many years
is like there's setting your goals and
when you think about them if they're
like too out there and they're too scary
and they're too outside it's it's hard
to achieve and then there's goals where
they're like they're in that sweet spot
where like yeah they scare you a little
bit. They get you going a little bit.
They put the hairs up. I'm getting hairs
up right now thinking about it. I'm not
lying. And and you're like, "Okay, I'm
going to work. I can work there." And
then that's your new normal. And then
you kind of keep going, right?
>> I believe other than this, cuz I know
you got goal to say. I believe the
problem we have today, and I would love
to hear your thoughts later on this is
like it's not that we shoot our goal so
high and miss. It's actually we shoot so
low and achieve.
>> Well, people people don't dream big.
Again, if you look at people and I've
interviewed lots of people, I've talked
to a lot of people around the world who
are struggling and they come to me and
you know, I'll bump into them in an
airport. I'll sit next to them on a
plane or whatever. People come up to me
at restaurants all the time. Can I grab
you for one minute? I don't want to
interrupt your dinner. And you know, I'm
very cordial and I'm very appreciative
and humbled by the fact that they're
coming up to me and they recognize me
and maybe read something that I've done,
maybe watch my podcast on on Rumble or
YouTube or something or Spotify or
Apple, whatever they saw me on. So, I'm
very humbled and appreciative. The two
things that happen with almost everybody
that I meet, either A, they're not
dreaming big enough, they've never
dreamed at all, or B, they live in a
delusionary world. They live in that
dream world. they they they live in that
delusionary dream world. So dreaming is
just one of the 40 things. You have to
expand the dream. But then you have to
set your target. And as you mentioned
the word sweet spot because you listen
to your wishes, your command, you know
the word.
>> So the is that is that what it was?
>> It is. It is. It is sweet spot. It is
sweet. It is sweet spot.
>> So you set your goal.
You set what you're shooting to achieve.
That's your target. it. The target has
to be in the sweet spot. And the sweet
spot is something that's big enough to
excite you. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> But small enough so that you know you
can actually achieve it.
>> It's not unattainable,
>> but it's big enough to get your juices
going, but it's small enough where you
go, I can do that. And that's the sweet
spot. That's not the dream. When you go
dream building, when you're going down
Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills and you're
looking at all this stuff, none of that
stuff's in the sweet spot. But you have
to do that exercise, that process of
dream building, which is building your
dream, expanding your power to imagine
and be creative. You're expanding that.
But then you go back to what's my what's
my goal? What's my target? What am I
going to shoot for that's big enough to
excite me, but small enough that I know
I can achieve it? And then you work on
that. Then the universe will give you
the method. We'll give you the how.
We'll present to you the steps in order
to do that.
>> Is are we getting to that 95% is
thinking and five. You had Are we
getting that talk right there? You're
smiling a little bit. Yeah. Because we
have what's called the training balance
scale, which is
>> the training balance scale. That's what
I want.
>> That's it. The training balance scale.
Yeah. You're on the money. It's it's the
how is on one side and the the thinking
is on the other. So the action steps are
over here.
>> The techniques, the methods, the
strategies, the things you specifically
have to do,
>> the how. And then on this side is the
thinking. It's the dream. It's your attitude.
attitude.
A lot of people, for example, crypto is
a big thing today. And people come up to
me and said, "Hey, you bought crypto at
a dollar." Uh yes. And you saw
>> you did.
>> Yes. I bought a lot of crypto at a
dollar. Uh, I was involved in in the
brotherhood and we knew that crypto was
something you should buy and actually I
was told to buy it when it was 50 cents.
I waited to a dollar and I thought, "Oh
man, I missed out."
>> And they said, "No, just hold it for 10
years. You'll be very happy." So they
said, "Listen, you know about crypto.
>> I don't have insider insider people
that, you know, could give me that type
of advice. So how do I make money in
crypto? How do I trade it? How?" And I
say, "Forget about the how. Your your
attitude sucks. You don't have the right
attitude." Unless you get the right
attitude, even if you do exactly what I
tell you to do, it's not going to
produce results. You have to have the
attitude first for the how, for the
strategy, for the technique that you do
to actually produce results. It was a
great book called Karmic Management.
It's a small little book, relatively
new, maybe in the last 10 years it came
out, but it's excellent, which talks
about this in great detail. How attitude
creates a vibration of frequency, which then
then
means when you do an action, you
actually get results. Guthy Ranker
Corporation, do you remember them? They
produce Tony Robbins uh infomercials,
proactive infomercials, multi-billion
dollar company started by Greg Rinker
and um uh uh uh uh Guthy, Bill Guthy,
two spectacular guys, wonderful guys.
They were the biggest infomercial
company in the world in terms of sales.
I had probably the most profit.
They came to me and they said, "Kevin,
we took one of your infomercials.
We scripted it. We took exactly the
words and transcribed it.
>> We got a guy who looked exactly like you
and we dressed them exactly like you. We
built a set that looks exactly like your
set. We lit it exactly the same. We got
an interviewer who looked exactly like
the interview in your show. We had the
exact same. We did a a complete
knockoff. It was identical. Well, if you
showed them side by side, you wouldn't
know which was the real one with me and
which one was theirs. It was identical.
They said, "How come ours didn't work?"
And I said, "Well, there's a secret that
I'm not going to tell you until I'm
retired from the infomercial business."
And they they had a a wristband they
used to wear in their company that said,
"What would Kevin do?" Because they
couldn't figure out what I was doing.
>> And now, have you said have you said
what it is? Am I going to
>> said what it is? And what it was is my
energy was different. My attitude was
different. They were trying to make
money. I was trying to help people with
the product.
>> I actually believed in the product. I
actually used the product. So my energy
was completely different. Therefore, the
action that I did produced results.
Their energy wasn't. And therefore, the
action that they did, even though it was
identical, didn't produce results.
So here's I was going to even ask I was
going to go even deeper there because
they actually did the same thing like
realistically they did the same thing.
So it wasn't even about the actions they
were taking because they basically
followed your actions. But I think and
please I want to go deeper in this there
is that thing on top of those actions
what you say is the energy but the
energy is the is I say you're a direct
reflection of the results you get right
so that energy that you're producing
even through a screen even just through
audio there's a vibration that happens
that is either people are feeling it or
they're not they the universe believes
in it because you're completely in
alignment or you're not and that's the
nuance that I'm still I Kevin I'm still
trying to figure out and fight towards
because I know there there's there I
think there's a point where you have to
surrender I'm starting to realize
>> yeah we were trained at length in this
in the brotherhood of how to use the
mind how to actually change the
frequency there are machines right now
you can put a a helmet on and it'll
it'll monitor your brain wave frequency
>> and I would go into these clinics and I
would say let's you know test my brain
and they'd say, "Okay, yeah, we want to
see if you're in beta or theta or delta
or whatever." Okay. And I says, "Okay,
which one you want me to go in?" They
go, "What? What do you mean?" I goes,
"Well, I can control that."
>> And I go, "Let me go into gamma." And
the machine would go into gamma. They're
going I go, "Okay, let me drop down to
theta." I go, "Let me move up right
below alpha." And they're like, "How the
hell are you doing that?" I go, "Well,
it took 30 years of training." [laughter]
[laughter]
go. It's like a kung fu master, you
know, takes all this time to become a
grandmaster. It takes a lot of training
with the brain.
>> But when you have the ability to
broadcast a frequency from your brain,
your brain is a receiver in broadcaster
frequency. That's proven by science. So,
if you control your brain waves, when
you put out a frequency on what's called
the billionaire brain wave or the wealth
wave, which is right in between the
bottom of of of alpha and the top of
theta, it's right in that little band.
If I can put a desire uh a picture, a
mental image picture of what I want,
Rolex watch, diamond ring, Rolls-Royce,
Bentley, it goes out into the universe
and actually affects matter. And again,
quantum physics knows this is true. Now,
that's how you create. And then the
universe starts actually moving
everything around to actually create
into your life what you're broadcasting.
There's an old phrase that says, "As
within, so without."
>> Or the world is simply a reflection of
you, of what's inside you. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And this is the whole point. It's it's
it really is true. People don't want to
do this. This is another step in the
algorithm, by the way. It's called
responsibility. And this is where I lose
everybody. Everybody hangs the phone up.
They don't want to talk to me anymore
because they don't want It's like they
they want to hear it's not your fault.
Well, guess what? It is your now. It
isn't your fault because you don't know. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. I'm going to tell everybody if you
don't have what you want in life, it
isn't your fault because the truth has
been hidden from you.
>> The other side of the coin is you once
you can start taking more responsibility
for everything in your life.
That's when things will change. It's the
five second miracle. When you say,
"Well, you I'm I'm I'm struggling
financially. I'm in I'm in so much debt.
I'm in so much debt." Okay. Who put you
in debt? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Who who used the credit card?
Who Who spent money you didn't have? It
wasn't me.
It was you.
>> You're the one who spent more money than
you made. And now you're in debt.
>> But Kevin, you don't get it. You don't
get it. Like, you don't you don't
understand how hard it is. the bills.
You just don't understand, Kevin. Like,
I got kids.
>> Like, I'm trying. I'm trying.
Everything's too expensive.
>> You you you live above your means. Uh
your house is too big.
>> I mean, people just don't they don't
want to take responsibility.
>> So, let's talk about that because part
of my podcast is going deep on stuff.
Why do people not want to take
responsibility? Why do you think Yeah, it
it
>> it's it's real simple. The system is
designed to make you feel like you're a victim.
victim.
I just did a documentary and one of the
interviews was about this. It's called
uh Kevin Trudeau classified where this
investigative reporter was asking me
about my involvement of the brotherhood
and and I decided to reveal a lot of
stuff about the control mechanisms that
are being used behind the scenes behind
the scenes by the privilege elite and
those people in secret societies and
things. And one of the things was if I
can get you to feel like you're a
victim, you be you become helpless
and hopeless. You have a feeling of
hopelessness. If I can make you feel
like there's no hope, I got you, baby. I
can now control you.
>> And if I can feel like you're a victim
where you don't take responsibility, I
can control you. It's beautiful. But if
you actually feel like you're empowered,
that you have cause over your
environment instead of being an effect
from everything around you. If you feel
like if it is to me, if it is to be,
it's up to me.
>> I can do anything.
>> You know, with God, all things are
possible. I can do all things through,
you know, God who works through me. I
mean, if you start quoting scripture, if
you're a Christian and you start
empowering yourself and you start
saying, I can do it. Henry Ford said,
"If you think you can or if you think
you can't, either way, you're right.
It's the thinking that makes it so." Les
Brown, my good friend, the motivational
speaker, always used to say, "It ain't
over, baby, until I win."
>> Yeah. Yeah. Right.
>> I love it.
>> Or or or Winston Churchill, his famous
speech, never never never quit.
quit. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, if you start feeling that,
>> I can't control you.
You're empowered.
>> Okay. So, let's go deep here. I love
this because how many times do people go
to a certain person's conference where
they get tapped on the ass a little bit?
I'm not a fan of it. Tapped on the ass,
make you try to feel good for 3 days for
24 hours and freezing cold and they come
home and they're like, "Yeah, my life's
going to change." And as we know, not
even a week later, they're back to their
regular self.
>> Yeah. You know, if you want to feel
really warm and fuzzy, a warm bath will
do that.
But it's not going to last. >> No.
>> No.
>> And unless I get to the root cause of
what is causing your issue and then have
you become aware of it, if you are not
aware, if you have no awareness. Okay.
Okay. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> I'll give you a story.
I was doing a little lecture on the book
by Dale Carnegie, how to win friends and
influence people. Everybody should read
that book because I haven't met a person
recently who actually has those skills
anymore. Interpersonal skills. It's like
they don't they don't get it right. So,
I gave this little lecture to a group of
people and one of the things I said is
Dale Carnegie points out that God gave
you two ears and one mouth and you
should use them proportionally. So, when
you're meeting somebody, if you want to
get them to like you, ask questions and
listen more than you talk because
everyone's favorite subject is
themselves. And people like to talk
about themselves. And if you get them to
talk about themselves, they'll like you.
If you want to appear, if you want to be
interesting, be interested. So, I gave
this whole lecture about talking less
and listening more. And I said, use the
six honest serving men and use them till
you die. They are what, when, where,
who, how, and why. Ask questions. So, I
gave this big lecture and everyone's
nodding. Yeah, that makes sense. And so
forth. We go to dinner. We go to dinner.
I'm sitting at the dinner and the table
next to me, there's a guy over there and
I hear him talking. He's a kind of a
loud voice. And I hear him talking and I
hear him talking and I hear him talking
and I'm eating my steak and he never
stopped talking. He never stopped
talking the entire night. It was like he
had one long runon sentence. I'm like,
"How did he even eat his food?" And I'm
looking over and there's nothing touched
on his plate because he's talking.
Everyone else is eating dessert. He's
still got a steak.
>> And I'm like going, "This guy has zero awareness."
awareness." >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Because I just gave a lecture on this.
>> Would you call that emotional
intelligence though, right?
>> I call it stupidity. [laughter]
>> Okay. Yeah. Okay. I mean, seriously, the
guy it it look, he's not aware. He's
asleep. He's in a trance. He he doesn't
he has no self-awareness.
The the the you know, when you think
about it, to thine own self be true,
right? Know thyself,
>> William Shakespeare.
>> It's so true.
>> Now, it's interesting because
he you're saying he's not aware. I I and
I would say he's probably not aware and
he probably has anxiety. He doesn't
realize and he maybe or like ego or
something. There's something going on.
>> Yeah. But it starts it starts with
awareness because when I talked to that
guy says, "Do you think you talk a lot?"
>> And he said, "No."
>> I mean, that's what I and I knew that's
what he was going to say cuz I had a
group of people that were all saying, "I
can't believe how much this guy talks.
Everyone noticed it." And I said, "Well,
he he's not aware of it." Well, he has
to be. I go, "Watch." So I walked over,
said, "How you doing?" I says, "By the
way, do you think you talk a lot?" "No."
He had no awareness that he talked all
night long.
>> Zero self-awareness. But that couldn't
be the first time he's heard that.
There's no way.
>> And if people brought it up, he still
thinks they're crazy.
>> He's not listening. Yeah.
>> He's not He's not aware. He's not He's
in a trance. And you could say, "Well,
what's causing that?" Well, that's a
whole another discussion because there's
an energetic imprint that's in his
memory that's keying in and it basically
is giving him an uncontrollable and
irrational action. This happens with emotions.
emotions.
People have uncontrollable and
irrational emotions. I have a glass of
water here and I SPILL IT. GOD DAMN IT.
OH, JESUS CHRIST. I CAN'T BELIEVE I JUST
SPILLED THAT. It's like, calm down. It's
a glass of water. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And it's okay. But you've seen that,
right? Somebody has a little thing happen
happen
>> and they just lose it. They have an uncontrollable
uncontrollable
and irrational emotion. Hey, if you're
watching, have this ever happened to
you? Do you ever say something and go,
"I'm sorry. I didn't mean that." But why
did you say it? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, uh,
>> you had you had an uncontrollable emotion
emotion
>> because it was an uncontrollable and
irrational reaction. So, what causes the
uncontrollable and irrational uh
reactions or thoughts or emotions?
There's an energetic imprint with that
energy that's in your memory that keys
in or activates or comes to surface.
Sometimes we call it he pushed your buttons.
buttons. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. He pushed your button. He really
push He really pushes my buttons, man,
man. He really pushes my buttons.
>> Okay, good. That means that guy controls you.
you.
So, I can look at somebody and I can see
their buttons and I go, "Okay,
I [laughter] can push your buttons and
then I control you like a puppet on a string."
string."
Well, that's what the elites do. They
instill implant, if you will, buttons
and now they use, as you talked about
earlier in the show, fear.
>> Uh, there was also a word that I would
call, you called chaos. I would say
conflict, right?
>> Conflict. So conflict creates chaos
creates fear and that pushes a button.
So I can use and you said it right at
the beginning of the show. You can use a headline
headline
>> to push people's buttons and now you
control them. And you and you give them
irrational uncontrollable emotions. I
have a good friend of mine who's an
ultra ultra ultra left-wing liberal.
Hates Donald Trump. Hates anything to do
with Republicans or red states or
anybody who's red or even thinks about
being red. And I have another friend who
is the exact opposite. I mean, super
ultra-conservative Christian, born again
Christian, right-wing, kind of like a
Charlie Kirk, right? Okay. So, there I I
bring them to my house and we're having
dinner. These are two incredibly
rational people that have worked with me
and they they don't have these engrams
on samscaras anymore. These these
energetic imprints samscara is the
Sanskrit word which which talks about
it. and they start having a intellectual
discussion about politics
and it was stimulating and it was very
civil and afterwards they're talking
about football laughing having a good
time. It was beautiful and I wish I had
it on camera because I I was thinking
this is how it should be. You can have
two people with diametrically opposed
political beliefs and opinions who have
a rational civil discussion and at the
end sit down, grab a beer, and watch the
football game
>> and enjoy each other's company and then
say, "Next time we're going to have this
debate even more." And they both laugh
and they give each other a hug and off
you go.
>> That's beautiful.
>> I think Yeah, I think it's actually
really beautiful. I mean, this world
lost that. Like, we don't even do even I
would say a quarter of that. Uh, but
that's what we started the show off and
kind of went into is they want that
though. They don't want us to have a
civilized conversation. They want us
sick. They want our heads poisoned. They
want us the lithium they're putting in
us like you're saying, all this stuff to
keep us low, killing the te uh the
testosterone um and controlling us. So,
I was going to ask the question because
I I I'm I'm growing into it, right? I'm
learning it. There's it's a process,
right? I'm seeing it. I'm I'm I I've
always believed in, you know, in the
power of all that. But how do you with
so much like the headlines for
instance, just constant headlines and
you see it and you're like, I can see
it. I know what they're doing. I'm not
going to let it affect you. But it's
still subconsciously like it creeps in
there and like it can control you. I I
see it myself and then I got to shake my
head. I kind of, you know, you shake
your head and go, "Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Lock, you know, got to get back on
track." How do you get it to a point
where it doesn't even doesn't you know
it kind of in and out right?
>> So imagine you're watch imagine you're
watching TV right and you have one of
the old clickers you know change the
channel and you are watching something
that you hate and it's absolutely horrible.
horrible.
>> What do you do?
>> A lot of people say they change the channel.
channel. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Well that's the second best
answer. Uh actually that's the first
best answer. Most people said they'll
shut it off.
>> So you're watching you're watching TV.
something you don't like, people say,
"I'll shut it off." That's the second
best answer. The best answer is you
change the channel. You put something
else on. So, because we're being
inundated with negative messages and
actually messages that are very, very
specifically designed to have a negative
effect on you because we're inundated.
Okay. Well, I don't look at those
messages. I don't I have one television
in my house and I I I use it to watch
either Turner Classic movies, black and
white, the History Channel. I'll tell
I'll tell you what I watch. They're like
The Men Who Built America, The Food That
Built America. I kind of like those series,
series,
>> but I I have the TV there and I can go
on the app as well.
>> Uh and I watch some football and I'll
probably watch the World Series maybe.
>> What's your thoughts on the football?
And they say sports are there to
actually design. They're designed to
actually control the nation and and and
distract us and all of that. What's your
thoughts behind that?
>> Well, all activities
that get you into conflict,
>> right? So,
>> Alabama, Georgia, right? [laughter]
>> Or Auburn and Alabama, right? You have
these rivalries. Hey, I grew up in I
grew up in Boston.
>> Those damn Yankees,
>> you know, right? They got Babe Ruth. I
don't we never like them. So you have
this conflict. So it's either a real
hatred or conflict that is there.
>> Another way to develop conflict or it's
fun. Hey, I shoot pool. I play with my
one of my best friends Mike Seagull.
He's the 10 time world champion,
greatest player who ever lived, greatest
living player in in the world. Comes
over the house and I want to beat him.
And this is a conflict, right? I don't
beat him very often, but I try to beat
him and I'm bearing down and I'm trying
to, you know, I'm trying to get in his
head and go, you can't make that ball.
You know, you're and it's fun. I mean,
you're having a good time. So, you can
do things like that and enjoy the game
>> as long as you know you're playing the game.
game.
So imagine that you are an actor and you
are hired to perform on stage and your
role is to be the evil villain and kill
the other person. Okay. You're an actor
>> and you know you're an actor and at the
end you and that person that you just
killed on stage go for dinner. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. So most people though in life
forget that this is the play of consciousness.
consciousness. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> That life is a game. That life is a play
of consciousness. And it's it's re we're
all really one. And if you just lighten
up a little bit and just step back a
little bit and be more of an observer of
your life and a witness of your life and
enjoy the game that you're in and then
afterwards go and have a dinner with the
person. Life is life can be beautiful.
>> I love that you said consciousness
because it just triggered in your wish
is your command. You talk about
unconscious conscious conscious
unconscious, right? Um, there's four of them.
them. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Correct me if I'm right or wrong. You're
not right.
>> And this is what you just asked me
earlier. It's like, listen, this is a
process. I'm going through the Your
Wishes Your Command uh audio program. By
the way, I just came out with a brand
new book. It's off the presses as of
yesterday. It's it's it's being already
being called the Think and Grow Rich of
our time. It it's absolutely amazing. It
takes the audio from your wish is your
command that I recorded 25 years ago in
the Swiss Alps with 100 people that paid
50 grand just to be there. I took all
those audio transcripts and I wrote the
book and it's just it there's nothing
out nothing like it. What is so complete
and systematic and
step by step by step of what you do but
even if you read the book or if you go
through the audios like you do, how do
you actually how does that become part
of you? Yes.
>> Becoming part of you is a stage as you
know because you listen to your wishes
your command that I was taught called
unconscious competence. It's when you do
it automatically. You don't think about
it anymore. You get in your car and
you're thinking about 10 things and then
you pull into your driveway and you
think, "How the hell did I get home? I
don't even remember driving."
>> Right? Because you were doing it
unconsciously. You were competent of
driving and you were unconsciously
competent. You did it unconsciously. If
I say to somebody, "How do you tie a shoelace?"
shoelace?"
>> Uh, I I can't tell you. But can you tie
your shoelace?
>> Yeah, because you do it unconsciously.
>> It's you're competent at tying the
shoelace, but you do it unconsciously.
Your unconscious competence. So, how do
you get there?
>> You go through the four stages. One is
unconscious incompetence. This is what
most people are in. They're in a trance.
They're not aware.
>> They're they're incompetent and they're
unconsciously incompetent. Unconscious
incompetence. They don't know that they
don't know. When they start learning
about things like this or anything, you
get to
>> conscious incompetence. Now you know how
dumb you are. Right [laughter]
now you know that you're like, "Oh boy,
now I know that I'm I'm taking all these
poisons and I'm being manipulated and
all this stuff." Now you know you're
consciously incompetent.
>> Then you start applying technique. Now
you get to a point called conscious
competence. You have some level of
competence. I kind of know how to tie
the shoe, but I got to think about it.
I'd say right over left, left over right
because you're not unconscious yet.
You're still consciously competent. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And you have to be consciously competent
for a period of time before it becomes a habit.
habit. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Then you're unconsciously competent.
Then you just do it automatically.
>> In habit's not 30 days. They've decid
they've changed that, right?
>> No. No. The the habit is varied because
especially in today's world, especially
in this genre, we're talking about
personal development or anything like
that. because you're being bombarded
with counterintention uh messages. It's
going to take a longer uh and you have
to use stronger willpower to go from
conscious competence to
>> unconscious competence where you do it
automatically. Look, a disaster happens
in our our company. Somebody calls up
and says, "Oh, we just got a lawsuit
in." I go, "Good."
>> First thing that comes out of my mouth,
"Good." And and and you could hear it.
It's like, "Good. I want to fight
whoever it is."
>> Yeah. I mean, it's instant. It's
automatic. I don't go, "Oh, no. Oh, no."
>> It's like somebody's filed a lawsuit. Good.
Good.
>> I mean, it's just like I love I love a
fight. I I haven't fought somebody in a
long time. I'm ready to go. What's that
all about anyways? Oh, some clown uh
filed a lawsuit against you and Michael
Jackson because you were together in
Neverland Ranch. This this actually happened
happened
>> and uh and you know, and blah blah blah.
And I go, "What?
>> This is not happening now?"
>> No. No. This was when Michael was alive.
>> Yeah. Yeah. But I remember this
specifically and I mean the lawsuit got
dismissed and thrown out within nanconds
because the guy was completely insane.
Then he went to the mental institution.
I mean he was he was not a you know
normal person. He was suing me and
Michael for we never met the guy. But
anyway it was it was a joint lawsuit.
But I remember that very specifically.
And the guys who were with me when that
happened they said why did you say good?
And I go it's a habit
because I handle things. I confront
things and it's a habit and it's my
instinct now. It's who I am. Um this is
this is the level of competency I have
with my mental capability because I
don't look at things as good or bad. I
look at them as challenges or
opportunities or situations
>> and I just handle them and I and I and I
know I can handle them and I love the
challenges. I love these type of
situations and therefore the universe
he doesn't doesn't throw me issues
anymore. It's like this guy's going to
fight back. Let's just relax. Leave him alone.
alone.
>> It's you know it's so funny. You just
like stop me in my tracks because I was
just about to say the universe does not
give to you what can't flow through you.
But that's not actually the truth. The
truth was that you just said is you
don't the universe is not giving you
anything because you're not looking at
the challenge. You're not looking at it
as this big challenge or whatever it is.
You're looking at like you said you're
playing the game. You're just playing
every day.
>> Every day there's an up, there's a down.
It's how we deal with it.
>> So there's a phrase and it says the
universe doesn't do things to us.
>> It does things for us. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So remember, whatever is coming into our
life, we've created that somehow. So, I
take responsibility for this. And why
did that come in? Maybe that came in so
that the people around me when that
happened, when that phone call happened,
saw me in action. And maybe they said,
"Wow, that's how I'm going to handle
things going forward." So maybe the
universe presented this opportunity not
for me per se, but to work through me,
for the other people, so that they could
see how you handle adversity.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Right. And I don't have to get into all
the reasons or we don't have to theorize
of all the reasons why that was a good situation,
situation,
>> but it was a good one. Talk to Michael
again and you know about it and
>> again they things happen for a reason. I
learned another concept of like the
consciousness like the conscious levels
right like so first level is is like the
tumi someone like to me level that's the
victim everything happens to me. So when
the water falls like you said it's not
just oh the water falls this always
happens to me everyone's against me
right and that's just a very low level
of conscious like those are the people
that are unfortunately that are being
sickened every single day mentally
physically by the foods we're eating by
the the media that they're watching the
second layer I was told which is like
the by me you know you kind you said
that earlier like this is like the buy
me conscious where it's like the water
drops it was because of me I'm going to
run and get the towel And I'm going to
make sure it's fixed up because I have
to take action. The third level, which
I'm trying to get to. I got to be honest
where I'm at, right? Is it all happens
through me? The water fell. There was a
reason for it. You know, I I'll get
we'll clean it up when I need to clean
it up. And then there's the monk level.
I call it the monk level, which is the
as me. So through me, everything happens
through me. And then the as me is
probably the highest level, which is
like it it all happens for a reason. And
I'm just a a vessel of of the message.
Um, I want to I know I man there's so I
could I I could talk forever. I do want
to I think it's super important we talk
a little bit about your your supplement
company because like part of all of this
part of being able to have the strong
mind. I think part of being able to to
dream and to be able to be in that sweet
spot, it also is an indication of the
foods we're eating, how we're feeling,
and what we're putting what literally
what we're fueling in our bodies.
Because what we've learned now,
hopefully I'm, you know, I'm not wrong
on this, the actual real brain is the
gut. Your gut actually controls the
brain. And if that's the truth, that
means Everything we put into our
gut is controlling the main thing that's
projecting the energy. So, I'd love to
talk about why. Like, I just want to
understand why we live in a world where
I live in my world where I know food's
bad for you, oils are bad for you, all
this processed foods bad for you.
Why are people still lining out at
McDonald's? Like, why are they feeding
their money that they don't have to a
foundation that is is killing people?
>> The same reason people smoke cigarettes
and can't quit. Listen, the the nicotine
addiction lasts 24 hours.
>> So, there's no physical addiction to the
cigarette after 24 hours. And somebody
says, "BS, I'm telling you, I can't I
have to smoke." I go, "Yeah, it's
psychological addiction because of the
programming." You go back to movies, Big
Tobacco when they first came out, nobody
could smoke cigarettes because it was
like [laughter] I mean it was horrible
because remember there was no filters. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So you had non-filter cigarettes and
people were just like I can't smoke
this. This is horrible. So they [snorts]
said let's get people psychologically addicted because people back in the day
addicted because people back in the day when they smoked turn of the century
when they smoked turn of the century people quit very easily because the
people quit very easily because the nicotine addiction only lasts 24 hours.
nicotine addiction only lasts 24 hours. There was no connection with coolness,
There was no connection with coolness, manliness or anything else or pleasure
manliness or anything else or pleasure psychologically through programming.
psychologically through programming. And then a magic thing happened in the
And then a magic thing happened in the movies. A guy is in front of the firing
movies. A guy is in front of the firing squad and they ask him, "Any last
squad and they ask him, "Any last requests?
requests? A cigarette."
The last thing this guy wants on earth is not sex,
is not sex, >> not a steak.
>> not a steak. >> Yeah. is a cigarette.
>> Yeah. is a cigarette. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> The last thing you want because it was
>> The last thing you want because it was paid to to put put in there. And all of
paid to to put put in there. And all of the programming on in the movies and and
the programming on in the movies and and art and so forth is so powerful that
art and so forth is so powerful that unless you deprogram that, you can't
unless you deprogram that, you can't quit the cigarette. So in the same
quit the cigarette. So in the same manner
manner that that was done, that's how fast food
that that was done, that's how fast food is done. You have Olympic athletes
is done. You have Olympic athletes >> eating McDonald's. Yeah.
>> eating McDonald's. Yeah. >> Really? Time out. Time out. Time out. I
>> Really? Time out. Time out. Time out. I think this is called fraudulent
think this is called fraudulent advertising and misleading advertising.
advertising and misleading advertising. You're an Olympic athlete. You've been
You're an Olympic athlete. You've been training for the Olympics. I guarantee
training for the Olympics. I guarantee you didn't go to McDonald's 5 days a
you didn't go to McDonald's 5 days a week as part of your training routine to
week as part of your training routine to win the gold medal. So why are you
win the gold medal. So why are you trying to get the kids to believe that
trying to get the kids to believe that if you want to be an Olympic athlete,
if you want to be an Olympic athlete, you got to go to McDonald's.
you got to go to McDonald's. >> And back in the day, we had Ronald
>> And back in the day, we had Ronald McDonald and the Grimace and the
McDonald and the Grimace and the Hamburglar. And this is beyond people's
Hamburglar. And this is beyond people's comprehension. This this type of mind
comprehension. This this type of mind control advertising actually stem from
control advertising actually stem from the CIA. And I know this because I was
the CIA. And I know this because I was involved in a lot of I was in the room
involved in a lot of I was in the room when we used to have uh lasers showing
when we used to have uh lasers showing on the screen where a person's eyes were
on the screen where a person's eyes were looking based on the ad. So I and we
looking based on the ad. So I and we know what was happening in the brain.
know what was happening in the brain. And so we would design ads to basically
And so we would design ads to basically put you in a trance into a hypnotic
put you in a trance into a hypnotic state so that we could implant things in
state so that we could implant things in your brain and then virtually control
your brain and then virtually control you with a beep just like a hypnotist. I
you with a beep just like a hypnotist. I mean so this is why people go to
mean so this is why people go to McDonald's. Look, I'll tell you a quick
McDonald's. Look, I'll tell you a quick story. Uh vodka.
story. Uh vodka. >> Back in 1960, the number one spirit
>> Back in 1960, the number one spirit consumed in America was gin. And every
consumed in America was gin. And every gin was different because they have all
gin was different because they have all these botanicals. That actually has
these botanicals. That actually has taste by the way.
taste by the way. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And a martini, if you ask for martini,
>> And a martini, if you ask for martini, there was one way to make a martini.
there was one way to make a martini. Only one. Gin, vermouth.
Only one. Gin, vermouth. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Ice. And it was stirred. Had to be
>> Ice. And it was stirred. Had to be stirred. Not shaken like a maniac.
stirred. Not shaken like a maniac. Stirred. And then poured into a glass
Stirred. And then poured into a glass with two olives.
with two olives. >> That's a martini. [clears throat] If you
>> That's a martini. [clears throat] If you asked for a dry martini, they used just
asked for a dry martini, they used just a little vermouth. And if you asked for
a little vermouth. And if you asked for an extra dry martini, it had no
an extra dry martini, it had no vermouth. Last night, I went to the
vermouth. Last night, I went to the restaurant and I said, "I'd like a
restaurant and I said, "I'd like a martini." Great. I said, "How do you
martini." Great. I said, "How do you make it?" She goes, "Just just gin." I
make it?" She goes, "Just just gin." I go, "What's What would you give me if I
go, "What's What would you give me if I asked for an extra dry martini then?"
asked for an extra dry martini then?" She's like, "Huh?" I said, "A martini
She's like, "Huh?" I said, "A martini has vermouth in it." I didn't ask for an
has vermouth in it." I didn't ask for an extra dry martini. I asked for a
extra dry martini. I asked for a martini.
martini. >> And a martini has vermouth in it. If I
>> And a martini has vermouth in it. If I wanted no vermouth, I I would have asked
wanted no vermouth, I I would have asked for an extra dry martini. She goes,
for an extra dry martini. She goes, "You're a jerk." [laughter] Yeah.
"You're a jerk." [laughter] Yeah. >> I go, "I'm kidding. I'm going to give
>> I go, "I'm kidding. I'm going to give you a big tip. Don't worry about it."
you a big tip. Don't worry about it." >> So, nobody bought vodka is the point.
>> So, nobody bought vodka is the point. People drank gin martinis. It was the
People drank gin martinis. It was the number one spirit in America. Like 10
number one spirit in America. Like 10 people were drinking vodka because vodka
people were drinking vodka because vodka has no taste.
has no taste. >> Here's the funny thing. Yeah. Go on. Go
>> Here's the funny thing. Yeah. Go on. Go on.
on. >> I got to tell I got to finish the story.
>> I got to tell I got to finish the story. This is You're going to love it.
This is You're going to love it. >> Smirnoff, a company that sold vodka,
>> Smirnoff, a company that sold vodka, said, "How are we going to sell vodka?
said, "How are we going to sell vodka? How are we going to get people to drink
How are we going to get people to drink this? It doesn't have any taste." And
this? It doesn't have any taste." And the guy said, "In the same way that
the guy said, "In the same way that tobacco got people to smoke cigarettes,
tobacco got people to smoke cigarettes, advertising in the movies, product
advertising in the movies, product placement, there's a movie coming out
placement, there's a movie coming out with this uh spy, this from Britain,
with this uh spy, this from Britain, >> and I think it's called James James
>> and I think it's called James James Bond, I think it is, Dr. No. Let's get
Bond, I think it is, Dr. No. Let's get him to drink the vodka,
him to drink the vodka, >> and let's get him to order a drink that
>> and let's get him to order a drink that doesn't exist. It'll be super cool.
doesn't exist. It'll be super cool. He'll order a vodka martini, which there
He'll order a vodka martini, which there is no such thing. And he'll order it
is no such thing. And he'll order it shaken instead of stirred like it's
shaken instead of stirred like it's supposed to be. And people will freak
supposed to be. And people will freak out because they'll think, "What the
out because they'll think, "What the hell's a vodka martini? And why is he
hell's a vodka martini? And why is he shaking it? I want to be like James
shaking it? I want to be like James Bond. I want to order the same thing."
Bond. I want to order the same thing." And then we'll have him pour uh Smirnoff
And then we'll have him pour uh Smirnoff into his glass at the end of the day,
into his glass at the end of the day, hold it to his head, and go, [sighs]
[snorts] So relaxing. They did that. Within two
So relaxing. They did that. Within two years, vodka became the number one
years, vodka became the number one spirit in America. And the number one
spirit in America. And the number one drink ordered at the bar was guess what?
drink ordered at the bar was guess what? A vodka martini shaken, not stirred.
A vodka martini shaken, not stirred. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah, >> that's the power of of advertising in
>> that's the power of of advertising in the movies and influencing people
the movies and influencing people through media.
through media. I was going to say just to add to that
I was going to say just to add to that now when I like I went to the bar and a
now when I like I went to the bar and a couple of weeks ago whatever and ordered
couple of weeks ago whatever and ordered one for my wife and she loves a real
one for my wife and she loves a real martini a gin martini so I said can I
martini a gin martini so I said can I get an extra you know I get it's like
get an extra you know I get it's like can I get a martini extra olives right
can I get a martini extra olives right he goes she he goes he starts reaching
he goes she he goes he starts reaching for the vodka I said no no gin he goes
for the vodka I said no no gin he goes martinis are vodka I'm like no man vod
martinis are vodka I'm like no man vod like gin is the real martini Not vodka,
like gin is the real martini Not vodka, but it's so changed that people don't
but it's so changed that people don't even know the essence of what an actual
even know the essence of what an actual real martini is. But, you know, we're
real martini is. But, you know, we're talking about one drink. Think about
talking about one drink. Think about everything. And I wanted to bring back
everything. And I wanted to bring back something because I I totally agree. I
something because I I totally agree. I never knew I love the science about
never knew I love the science about nicotine's only 24 hours. I always I'm
nicotine's only 24 hours. I always I'm always curious when people quit smoking.
always curious when people quit smoking. And I always ask when people
And I always ask when people authentically quit smoking. It's not the
authentically quit smoking. It's not the patch. It's not hypno. It's not some
patch. It's not hypno. It's not some shot. It's nothing. I ask them, "What
shot. It's nothing. I ask them, "What was it?" They said, and I call it
was it?" They said, and I call it identity, they just said, I decided I'm
identity, they just said, I decided I'm not a smoker anymore. Not I'm a smoker
not a smoker anymore. Not I'm a smoker who's trying to quit. I'm not a smoker.
who's trying to quit. I'm not a smoker. Like their identity shifted. Done.
Like their identity shifted. Done. Immediate. Never again. Not an
Immediate. Never again. Not an addiction.
addiction. >> Right? You know, the number one uh
>> Right? You know, the number one uh method of quitting, which I think has a
method of quitting, which I think has a close to a 90% success rate, is Allen
close to a 90% success rate, is Allen Carr, Easy Way to Quit Smoking. You can
Carr, Easy Way to Quit Smoking. You can just read the book and by the end you'll
just read the book and by the end you'll be pretty much a non-smoker or you go to
be pretty much a non-smoker or you go to a one-day seminar where they don't do
a one-day seminar where they don't do hypnosis or anything. You just sit there
hypnosis or anything. You just sit there with a bunch of people and during the
with a bunch of people and during the breaks you can smoke. And so all they do
breaks you can smoke. And so all they do is they just point out all the
is they just point out all the programming how you've been programmed
programming how you've been programmed and they basically are deprogramming you
and they basically are deprogramming you from being cigarettes is cool. Actually,
from being cigarettes is cool. Actually, no it's not. It's stinky.
no it's not. It's stinky. >> You don't you know I mean you smoke.
>> You don't you know I mean you smoke. It's like okay that girl's going to kiss
It's like okay that girl's going to kiss me. It's like licking an ashtray. Uh I I
me. It's like licking an ashtray. Uh I I think I'm dead in the water. So, I got
think I'm dead in the water. So, I got to get some mints. And they start
to get some mints. And they start deprogramming you. And by the end,
deprogramming you. And by the end, you're like, "Yeah, I'm a non-smoker."
you're like, "Yeah, I'm a non-smoker." And so, it has like a 90% permanent
And so, it has like a 90% permanent success rate. It's it's really an
success rate. It's it's really an amazing thing because it works on
amazing thing because it works on deprogramming and not uh not the patch
deprogramming and not uh not the patch or anything like that. The nicotine
or anything like that. The nicotine addiction is not the issue. The patch is
addiction is not the issue. The patch is designed to basically sell
designed to basically sell >> the patch, not to get you to quit
>> the patch, not to get you to quit smoking.
smoking. >> So, the foods, the quickly, the foods,
>> So, the foods, the quickly, the foods, the uh the supplements, all of that. Um,
the uh the supplements, all of that. Um, you're I know you you said before we
you're I know you you said before we talked you're going right to the seed,
talked you're going right to the seed, right? So, I want
right? So, I want >> So, so because I wrote the book Natural
>> So, so because I wrote the book Natural Cures they don't want you to know about.
Cures they don't want you to know about. It was the number one bestselling health
It was the number one bestselling health book of all time. People always say,
book of all time. People always say, "What supplements do you take?" And I
"What supplements do you take?" And I go, "Look, you can't. I have a hundred
go, "Look, you can't. I have a hundred different bottles. Half of it's
different bottles. Half of it's garbage." Anyways, I'm always mixing it
garbage." Anyways, I'm always mixing it up. I'm still looking. I can't find
up. I'm still looking. I can't find anything that's any good. Why don't you
anything that's any good. Why don't you make it your own supplement brand? I'm
make it your own supplement brand? I'm too busy. I got too many enterprises.
too busy. I got too many enterprises. Well, we launched a company called
Well, we launched a company called World's Best Nutritionals and Organics.
World's Best Nutritionals and Organics. World's Best Nutritionals and Organics
World's Best Nutritionals and Organics and it's producing the world's best
and it's producing the world's best nutritional supplements. The the
nutritional supplements. The the flagship is the daily supplement. It
flagship is the daily supplement. It comes with two packets and it says day 1
comes with two packets and it says day 1 A.M. and in it is six capsules and then
A.M. and in it is six capsules and then it has day 1 PM and in it is six
it has day 1 PM and in it is six capsules. Day 2 A.M. day 2 PM. So, it's
capsules. Day 2 A.M. day 2 PM. So, it's real simple. Why day 1, day 2, day 3 all
real simple. Why day 1, day 2, day 3 all the way day 30? Because every packet
the way day 30? Because every packet contains a completely different set of
contains a completely different set of ingredients. Nobody on the planet does
ingredients. Nobody on the planet does this. When you buy supplements, you take
this. When you buy supplements, you take the same thing every single day. It's
the same thing every single day. It's the stupidest thing you could do. Do you
the stupidest thing you could do. Do you eat the same meal for breakfast, lunch,
eat the same meal for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Every single day? No. You
and dinner? Every single day? No. You You have different food, don't you, for
You have different food, don't you, for breakfast, different food for lunch,
breakfast, different food for lunch, different food for dinner, and and
different food for dinner, and and usually the next day it's also
usually the next day it's also different. Why? Because the body is
different. Why? Because the body is designed to get nutrients from food
designed to get nutrients from food number one, but also from different
number one, but also from different food. That way you get different amounts
food. That way you get different amounts of the nutrients every day in different
of the nutrients every day in different proportions to one another. And because
proportions to one another. And because the nutrients are coming into your body
the nutrients are coming into your body via food, they assimilate properly.
via food, they assimilate properly. And because it's food, up to 30% of food
And because it's food, up to 30% of food defies chemical analysis, which means
defies chemical analysis, which means there's nutrients in there that science
there's nutrients in there that science hasn't discovered yet. But you still
hasn't discovered yet. But you still need them. So if you're taking
need them. So if you're taking supplements that have vitamin C, asorbic
supplements that have vitamin C, asorbic acid, throw it away. You're being
acid, throw it away. You're being scammed. That's not vitamin C. Oh, yes
scammed. That's not vitamin C. Oh, yes it is. Science says it's vitamin C. Oh,
it is. Science says it's vitamin C. Oh, really? Okay. Uh scurvy is a vitamin C
really? Okay. Uh scurvy is a vitamin C deficiency. We've heard of the the
deficiency. We've heard of the the disease scurvy. If you take a whole
disease scurvy. If you take a whole bunch of asorbic acid, you still have
bunch of asorbic acid, you still have scurvy. But if you eat an orange,
scurvy. But if you eat an orange, you're cured of scurvy. Why? Because
you're cured of scurvy. Why? Because asorbic acid is not vitamin C. The
asorbic acid is not vitamin C. The orange has ascorbic acid in it, but it
orange has ascorbic acid in it, but it also has bioflavonoids and it has all
also has bioflavonoids and it has all these other co-actors, many of which
these other co-actors, many of which science hasn't even discovered yet. So,
science hasn't even discovered yet. So, in order to get a proper whole food
in order to get a proper whole food nutrition, what I produced is all
nutrition, what I produced is all organic whole foods. There's
organic whole foods. There's concentrated and every packet is
concentrated and every packet is different. It's like having a different
different. It's like having a different meal every single time. So every every
meal every single time. So every every morning you're getting a different set
morning you're getting a different set of nutrients and different proportion of
of nutrients and different proportion of one another from different sources.
one another from different sources. >> It's unlike anything on the market. And
>> It's unlike anything on the market. And when I went to the manufact, you know,
when I went to the manufact, you know, to the places that actually source this
to the places that actually source this stuff. I was physically there at the
stuff. I was physically there at the plant. I was physically there on the
plant. I was physically there on the farm. I want to see the seed. I want to
farm. I want to see the seed. I want to know where the seed came from. Did it
know where the seed came from. Did it come from Monsanto? Does it does is it
come from Monsanto? Does it does is it an heirloom seed? Where is it put in the
an heirloom seed? Where is it put in the ground? I want to test the soil. I want
ground? I want to test the soil. I want to test and and find out exactly when
to test and and find out exactly when you're picking the fruit. Are you
you're picking the fruit. Are you picking it at pure a pure ripeness? What
picking it at pure a pure ripeness? What are you doing with it? Who's picking it?
are you doing with it? Who's picking it? How you paying these people? I go
How you paying these people? I go through this whole thing. They said,
through this whole thing. They said, "You're insane." They all said, "You're
"You're insane." They all said, "You're insane. You don't have to do this. You
insane. You don't have to do this. You can put asorbic acid in for vitamin C."
can put asorbic acid in for vitamin C." And and the people are too stupid. They
And and the people are too stupid. They don't know the difference. All they look
don't know the difference. All they look at is they're looking at they want 500
at is they're looking at they want 500 milligrams. I go, "This isn't a product
milligrams. I go, "This isn't a product for selling. This is a product for me to
for selling. This is a product for me to take."
take." Which is different. Everybody else, a
Which is different. Everybody else, a guy told me that one time. I said, he
guy told me that one time. I said, he was, he had this beautiful label. Look
was, he had this beautiful label. Look at the label. Look at the label. The
at the label. Look at the label. The marketing of the label, the label. I got
marketing of the label, the label. I got a 10 times markup. And I said, "Do you
a 10 times markup. And I said, "Do you take that?" And he laughed. He goes,
take that?" And he laughed. He goes, "This isn't for taking. This is for
"This isn't for taking. This is for selling."
selling." >> And I go, "You know something? I've
>> And I go, "You know something? I've known you my whole life." And I go,
known you my whole life." And I go, "You're you're completely unethical." I
"You're you're completely unethical." I said, 'I'll still have dinner with you,
said, 'I'll still have dinner with you, but you're unethical.
but you're unethical. I said, 'I'm selling supplements that
I said, 'I'm selling supplements that are for take I'm I'm I'm making
are for take I'm I'm I'm making supplements that I'm going to take.
supplements that I'm going to take. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And and if people want to They're the
>> And and if people want to They're the world's best. They're not going to be
world's best. They're not going to be cheap, but they are the And these people
cheap, but they are the And these people said, "You you want to go do you should
said, "You you want to go do you should be getting everything from China. It's
be getting everything from China. It's like a third the cost." I go, "Yeah, but
like a third the cost." I go, "Yeah, but it has lead in it." You look at the
it has lead in it." You look at the stuff in from China. It has rat feces,
stuff in from China. It has rat feces, all this stuff. Oh, yeah. Well, you know
all this stuff. Oh, yeah. Well, you know that happens sometime. I go, "No, look,
that happens sometime. I go, "No, look, we know they lied. They sold they when
we know they lied. They sold they when when it comes over, the manifest said
when it comes over, the manifest said meets all EPA requirements for these
meets all EPA requirements for these children uh toys, and then when they're
children uh toys, and then when they're analyzed, it's full of lead paint.
analyzed, it's full of lead paint. >> And and what's the penalty? Nothing.
>> And and what's the penalty? Nothing. >> So, you you can't trust anything from
>> So, you you can't trust anything from certain countries." So, the point is our
certain countries." So, the point is our stuff is is is the stuff that I'm up to.
stuff is is is the stuff that I'm up to. I'm I'm making it for myself. It's gonna
I'm I'm making it for myself. It's gonna It's that good.
It's that good. >> So, where can people get that stuff if
>> So, where can people get that stuff if Is it still Is it on the market yet?
Is it still Is it on the market yet? Like, can you buy it?
Like, can you buy it? >> It's It's We're taking pre-orders now.
>> It's It's We're taking pre-orders now. People can go to kevvino.com.
People can go to kevvino.com. My website, everything's there. The
My website, everything's there. The book, Your Wishes, Your Command, is
book, Your Wishes, Your Command, is there. They can get information on the
there. They can get information on the supplements there. Kevin Trudeau.com.
supplements there. Kevin Trudeau.com. Just get on the mailing list. We'll give
Just get on the mailing list. We'll give you all the information. But we'll be
you all the information. But we'll be shipping the supplements probably by the
shipping the supplements probably by the end of the year.
end of the year. >> I love it, Kevin. I mean, it's been an
>> I love it, Kevin. I mean, it's been an absolute pleasure. I I I think we
absolute pleasure. I I I think we haven't even touched the surface here,
haven't even touched the surface here, but as we come to an end, I really want
but as we come to an end, I really want to respect your time. Uh any last words
to respect your time. Uh any last words for the people right now? You know,
for the people right now? You know, something that just if someone's
something that just if someone's listening here and they're in that
listening here and they're in that trance?
trance? >> Yeah, I would just they don't even know.
>> Yeah, I would just they don't even know. >> I would say what Zig Ziggler, the great
>> I would say what Zig Ziggler, the great motivational speaker and good friend of
motivational speaker and good friend of mine, we traveled together for many
mine, we traveled together for many years. He told me years ago, you know,
years. He told me years ago, you know, he was a born again Christian and he was
he was a born again Christian and he was a very wonderful person. And he said,
a very wonderful person. And he said, "You were born to win. You were
"You were born to win. You were engineered for success. You were
engineered for success. You were designed for accomplishment. And you
designed for accomplishment. And you were endowed with the seeds of
were endowed with the seeds of greatness. Dream big dreams and don't
greatness. Dream big dreams and don't let anyone steal your dreams.
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