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The Death Of Memorable Songs…Let’s Talk
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What's up
everyone? Coming on on Saturday here
early, that's not that early of a live
stream, 100 p.m. here, Eastern time. And
uh I'm going to talk about some stuff
related to my video from yesterday on
the top 10 Spotify countdown.
Um, I I had some thoughts that I wanted
to uh to speak about kind of related to
a couple of the comments.
Um, anyhow, I'll get to it in a second.
Uh, today's the beginning of our
Memorial Day sale that's going to go
through next Monday. Uh, I don't know if
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I'm going to re talk about this stuff
and and why this death of memorable
songs thing, how this relates to
actually understanding music. Uh my bi
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now. Okay.
So, I want to talk about a
uh
so I was thinking about this today kind
of as a response to uh to you know just
talking with my friends about this about
the list of songs yesterday. I'm I'm
gonna play a couple of the songs, play a
couple bits. And I came up with this
idea that there's no wait for moments in
songs. Almost none. What does that mean?
Things that you actually want to
relisten to songs for. Because I've
noticed that my kids don't want to hear
songs over and over like I did as a kid
because there's no wait for moments.
There's nothing. We're like, "Yes, you
hear that? You hear that? I did 115 what
makes this song great episodes because
every one of the songs that I put in
there have many wait for moments like
wait for this thing to come back again
whether it's a some key change or some
interesting note in the melody or some
interesting lyric that happens that you
just want to hear over and over and over
and over some great drum fill whatever
it is those wait for moments somebody
left me a comment between the video
title and very concept of constantly
only judging what young people listen
to. I'm not judging what young people
listen to. I'm judging what I'm
listening to. How does that have to do
with anything about young people? Me
listening to the top 10 songs on
Spotify. Uh because let's be honest, the
Billboard top 10 chart since the rise of
Elvis been driven by
tw 12 to 20 year olds. Has it? The
charts historically were created
basically by the record labels and pola.
So, that's really not true. Uh, playing
a few chords just to say music was
better back when songs were complex is
ridiculous.
[Music]
Um, okay. So, that's on its
face. Let's just say that that uh No,
that's laughable. Um, and then it's uh
um here's the thing.
This person that writes this comment
acts as if music is created by by 12 to
20 year olds. Most of the music on the
charts are created by people. No matter
who the singer is, these are people in
their 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s. The people
that create the songs on the charts, the
songwriters, the artists. How old do you
think Drake is? He's like 38 years old.
you know that all these people that are
on the charts are in their 30s whether
it's Morgan Wallen I mean a lot of the
people are in the 30s and if they're not
in the 30s the other songwriters that
are writing the songs are in their 30s
40s and 50s the people mixing the
records who do you think mixes pop
records Ganaia he's 55 58 years
old Spike Stent is almost 60 years old
that like the biggest mixers in the
music business that mix all the top
songs are in their 50s, 40s, 50s, 60s,
you know, and it's always been like
this. Actually, it wasn't like this back
uh, you know, 40 years ago. It was not
like that. people that were in their 20s
were actually writing their own songs
and and were uh producing them, whether
it was Stevie Wonder
or Sting
uh or Michael Jackson or whoever the
people were creating music in their 20s,
writing the songs themselves and putting
them out there, right? Even the session
players were young that were playing on
them. If you think about who played on
Thriller record, it was basically all
the people in Toto, Steve Lucther, Jeff
Picaro. I mean, all these people, those
guys were in their 20s then that were
playing on these records. Okay. So, you
got the session players, Stevie Wonder,
what he was 10th record. He was 26 years
old. Okay. Yes, he started when he was
young. Uh, but let's talk about some of
these songs that I I'll
um let me talk about these wait for
moments. Let me give you an example. I
was thinking like what are the first
things that come off the top of my head?
Uh I think of this
song. This is King of Pain. It was a
number one song by the Police in
1983. of
synchronicity. There's a little black
spot on the side
today. It's the same old
[Music]
right here.
And
then there's a black hat in a high tree.
Perfect
melody. There's a flag pole rack and the
wind pull stop.
Oh man, I have stood here before inside
the pouring
rain or
upright, but it's my
[Music]
destiny. And
then there's a little black spot on the
sun. This goes
back in the
[Music]
past. There's a black car in a high
tree. Beautiful
back. There's a black dragon.
won't stop in the
forest. I stood in before I
[Music]
for Okay, somebody's like, "This is
cherry
picking." How about this song?
[Music]
human
nature looking
out across the
[Music]
night.
Always shake my
window. Sweets and
loing size.
Get me
out into the
night for walls won't hold me
tonight. If this
town is just an
apple, then let me take a
bite. If they say
why, tell them that it's human nature.
Why? Why does he do it that way? Okay,
we don't realistic rock music. We can go
to music like this.
[Music]
[Applause]
[Music]
[Music]
Okay. Load up your clothes. Bring your
friends
[Music]
into the world selfishure.
[Music]
I mean, I could play any song off this
record
and just go look. Nirvana's got 32
million monthly listeners and they
haven't put out a record since
1994. What about
this? Like every part of these
songs is interesting.
Music is a world with an
in the neighbors we all
understand with an equal
opportunity for all to sing dance and
clap their
hands. But just because the record has a
groove don't make it in the groove. But
you can tell right away in Dr. A when
the people start to
move. They can feel it
all. They can feel our
love. They can feel it. I
love they can
feel amazing.
Everybody's playing it in unison.
Okay. It could be this.
[Music]
All these songs were number one songs.
[Music]
[Applause]
[Music]
There used to be a gray tower alone on
the sea. Wow. You became the light on
the dark side of
me. Love remains a drug that's high
enough. But did you know that when it
snows my eyes become alive? And the
light that you shine can't be
sees. A light hits the gloom on the
grave.
[Music]
Okay. All
right. Right. This is
unbelievable.
Um,
now I didn't even play any Beatles. I
didn't play ABBA. I didn't play the
Jackson 5 or anything. Well, let me play
some Beatles
[Music]
here. There are places I
remember all my
life. Though some have changed, some
forever not for
better, some have gone. Okay. Okay. So,
what am I talking about about these
these wait for it moments? Okay. Let's
just talk about the intro to this
[Music]
song. Places
I some have
changed. a perfect melody. It has an
amazing intro hook to it. It's got all
these key changes. It's got incredibly
interesting chord changes. It's got
amazing lyrics like all of these songs
do. All these songs great lyrics. Um,
now let's listen to some of the things
that were that uh I
guess this is Morgan Hall.
[Music]
I'm a
redneck cuz I drink beer and I dip
skull. Guess I'm a
rambler cuz I cannot be on the road.
Might be a lost cause. Now I understand.
I understand if you're a redneck
and and you can't rhyme Copenhagen,
right? So you have to use skull in uh
instead. But that line I can't I mean I
went up and wrote with Nashville writers
many many times but I had never heard
anybody write lyrics like that. It's got
to be people that are not from Nashville
writing these songs because I don't know
Nashville writers that write lyrics like
that. Be out till the lights and I'm a
gambler. I take the over on the
underdog. That's a great half of this
town has got a name for me and I can't
say I don't
agree but the night I said I'm leaving I
turned into Richard broke my heart so I
got even in my 97
but I mean these kind of melodies this
is what I'm talking about that nobody's
going to remember this kind of stuff
it's It's not
bad. It's not bad. Is beaver like it's
so bad. Um, who's going to remember this
stuff in the future? I don't know. Um,
or
who's calling that Who's calling
that Who's calling that
Who's calling that
Who? Yeah. Yeah. Overall sound
2025. Who's calling that
Is
it? Is
it? Is
it? Is
[Music]
it? Is
it? What's the function? Where the
the function? Where the the
function? The way I feel right now, I
feel like we need to be all alone. So if
you just playing around, you need to
tell your girl take a finance home. And
that's real. Okay.
Now, what I'm doing here, so so like for
calling me out for criticizing today's
music is kind of a false equivalency,
right? Um, I'm not being nostalgic for
what uh, you know, or comparing it to
what to younger generations. First of
all, I don't think this is a thing. It's
like whatever is on the charts, I don't
have any control over. I just open up
Spotify. I put top US songs for this
day, and it's really just for the day
when I do it. Um,
and
and these songs, it's not like these
songs are written for young kids,
okay? We don't know who's listening to
these songs. and music of
today. Like, who's Drake's audience? The
guy's 38 years old. His audience is
older people, I think. Right. Who's
Morgan Wall? Morgan Wallen's 32 years
old. Who's his audience? Is it
12-year-old kids? I don't know any 12-y
old kids listening to
that. I played this song, Jess Murf.
you. I had to get back at you. I had to
get back at
you. I just bought a mansion in
[Music]
Mel. You know how I get willing
attitude. Yeah. You got me throwing blue
strips, bad tits in a strip club,
throwing ones at your and I know
you know it's going on. I'm going home.
I'mma take it off for my strip down.
[Music]
Okay, so let's just look at some of
these things. Okay, that thing is that
song's called Blue Strips by Jess Jesse
Murphy. Murf. Jesse Murf. Credits Daniel
Tannon, Laura Veltz, Jesse
Murf, Su
uh Gearman, Tyler Melon Bacher. Produced
by Beckan, Ser uh Sergu Garman, Tyler
Reese. It's on Colombia Big Machine.
Must be a country song. Doesn't sound
like a country song, but it must be a
country artist.
Most of these songs are written by six,
seven people. They they literally are
written by people. The Morgan Wallen
song with Post Malone. Let's see.
Credits. How many people? Uh Austin
Post, Ernest, Keith Smith, Lewis Bell,
Michael Hardy, Morgan Wallen, Ryan, uh
somebody or other. Okay, so these are
produced by Joy Moy, produced by one
person. Joy Moy is um is a big Nashville
producer. great producer. Did like
Florida Georgia line. That's where he
got his first big hits back in 2013 or
so. And Joey Moy engineered and mixed
all the Nickelback records. He was
partners with Chad Kroger and uh and
left and moved to Nashville. He's a
talented guy uh and produced tons of hit
records. I think he worked with Rascal
Flats or maybe no that was Dan Huff I
think did a lot of Rascal Flats.
Anyways, very successful producer. But
these songs are written by committees.
They're they're designed to appeal to
the broadest
um group of people possible, but to me
they lack any emotional depth or art
artistry. It's my own opinion
though. Is that me yelling at
clouds by giving my opinion? What does
my opinion have to do with yelling at
clouds?
Um, somebody says my volume is
low. My
opinion and I'm not the ones that are
controlling what's on the
charts. What is on the charts is
whatever people are listening to. And
it's it's just, you know, whatever
people hear on TikTok.
Um,
so I'm not sure what to say.
Um, I'm giving my opinion on these songs
right now. How do you actually change
this stuff? How do you how do people
actually create better
music? That to me is an interesting
topic. And I think that
um I think one way is for people to
study uh is to make their music more
interesting. Have these wait for
moments. Wait for it moments. Is there
any wait for it moments in this song
here?
[Music]
Smoking cigarettes.
[Music]
I mean, is that like this? There's no
way the man could
lose. You can feel it
all. You can feel it. I love the
people. You can feel it. I
love You can feel it. I love the people.
You can feel it.
Uh when I hear
this, that's a wait for it moment right
there.
[Music]
One of the
uh one of the things that uh that I
think is has
happened in music over the last
generation or so uh at least
since really in since the mid 2000s
let's say since 2008 because the death
of the music business was was in many
ways probably around
2005. This is when uh record labels
stopped taking a chance and and uh all
the budgets disappeared for for records
and then people had to make records on
their own, which they started doing. And
it's great that you could do stuff on
your own. I can make my own live videos
right here. I don't have to be on CNN or
whatever. I don't have to be on network
TV. I don't have to be on anything. I
just come on YouTube. I can come on
Instagram, Tik Tok, whatever. and just
you got a mic, you got a camera, you can
go on. Um,
but there has been such a a um a decline
in the
uh um in people learning
music. And to me, that's a huge huge
thing. I think that's really led to the
decree decrease decrease in kids being
interested in music because frankly most
a lot of the
music that you hear on the pop charts is
not interesting. Now is there great
music out today? Oh yeah. I had Billy
Strings in here and Billy Strings is
amazing. If you haven't watched the
interview with him, watch it. Billy
Strings
is so brilliant. His guitar playing is
insanely good. He's an incredibly good
singer. Um, my god,
unbelievable. He's one of the best, you
know, artists out. Is he on this chart?
No, he's not on this chart. Does he have
a 100red million monthly listeners? like
whoever we look at the top of the
charts.
No, he but he can sell out two nights at
the uh at the basketball arena here in
Atlanta, which is amazing and ex it's
exciting. There are some of the best
musicians, the best players that have
ever lived are alive now on multiple
instruments. Okay? But that doesn't mean
that people
uh the general public are consuming
great things. It used to be that a lot
of the things that were great were also
popular, but that's just not really the
case
anymore.
Um and this thing like the charts always
sucked. Um I don't buy that. There's,
you know, there are songs go back 30
years, 40
years. You know, take take two months
worth of charts and you're gonna have
songs that you still hear
today. Just a fact. You will. Are you
going to listen to any of these songs
that I played yesterday, 20 years from
now? I doubt
it. Um, I doubt you will. I doubt you
will.
Um, but how do you get better at writing
songs? By learning stuff about music.
This has been kind of my thing since I
started my channel. Um, when almost nine
years ago, it'll be nine years, two
weeks from now that I've been on
YouTube. And
um, and when I started on YouTube, about
three months into my channel, I I
started selling my BAT
book. It was just a PDF then. And there
was no video content. I there were not
many people were selling. I don't know
anybody was selling video courses.
Probably there were back in 2016, but um
I eventually made it into a video
course. And um and now I have six
educational courses that I
sell. And those six courses, Mike's
pasting them in here. My Memorial Day
special 85% off. I'm just reading that
right now. Right. What are my courses?
my music theory for
songwriters. You want to learn how to
maybe take some of these ideas and and
improve your songs by going places that
are unexpected by giving people these
wait for it moments. You can do that. I
have 115 song breakdowns on my channel
of some of the greatest songs ever
written in my what makes this song great
uh series, right? which is all not just
about songwriting, it's about music
production too. My BAT book interactive
is a theory
uh compendium, right? It's it's a video
course that's based on 40 years of
teaching
uh that has so many video lectures. It's
got examples of every single thing in
there. There are audio examples in
addition to video lectures. My ear
training has hundreds of training
modules to teach you how to listen to a
song one time like I do in these these
charts. Now, I'm not saying that it's
hard to listen to any of the songs in
the top 10 on Spotify and be able to
figure them out. None of them have over
four chords.
Okay? So, um, but if you want to figure
out these songs like In My Life by the
Beatles and play them, you got to know
something because it goes A to E to F#
minor to A over G, then it goes to D,
then it goes D minor, then it goes back
to
A. How do I know that? Because I can
hear these chords in my head right now
because I've trained my ears over
decades to hear them.
That's why I remember all these
different songs is because I learned
them and I didn't forget them. And why
didn't I forget them? Because I my inner
ear can hear them and I hear the
relationship from one chord to the next
or from the bass notes. And I can hear
in my mind whether the chords are major,
minor, or dominant or half diminished or
diminished or
augmented. I know that because I've
studied this stuff and I practiced ear
training. And this is what I do in my
ear training course is I give people the
tools to learn this stuff. All right? So
you can learn songs by ear as you're
hearing them. Do I need that for Morgan
Wallen to go from E major 7 to B major
7? That's the verse. And then the chorus
is G sharp minor 7 to E to B. That's it.
Nothing else. This is, you know, grade
school stuff. Are there Nashville
writers capable of writing amazing
songs? Oh my god, there are. But they
don't write them. Why? Because people
don't because we have a whole generation
of people
that really are not interested in
hearing more complex. I think this is
the theory that they don't want to hear
things that are more complicated than
that. But I disagree with that. I think
that that's not true. I think that the I
think people uh will listen to much more
interesting music than people give them
credit for.
Okay.
Um when I hear these songs, I know what
they are. That's why but that's from ear
training.
my other courses in here, my beginner
guitar course, my arpeggio master class,
my quick lessons pro, those are things
that that are specifically for people
that play
guitar. Uh, but the other three things
in here, the music theory for
songwriters, the uh the biata book
interactive, and my ear training courses
are really for anybody. You can get all
six of these courses for 109 bucks. It's
like what is that? Four would be 25
bucks a course. It's six courses for 109
bucks. What is it? 20. Is that even 20?
Is it even 25 bucks a course? I'm
terrible with math. I'm sorry that
that's a that's an incredibly good deal.
Whatever it is, Mike says that it's a
85% off savings. It's my complete
method. I did it one more I did it one
other time this year. Otherwise, I've
never sold all six of these courses. I'm
doing it through Memorial Day. You know,
I hope that people will learn more about
music. I hope the kids will get back
into learning
instruments. The ones that are doing it,
like I said, are the best ever. They
are. My
god. Some of the people I've had on
here, besides Billy Strings, Matteo
Manuso, Mattea Sado, these are
unbelievable. And the people that some
somebody says, "Rick does talk about
Billy." I talk about Billy Isish. Billy
isish is incredibly talented. Her and
her brother Phineas write their own
songs and they produce them
themselves. They don't need 10 people to
write them. They write them
themselves, right? The amount of people
that write their own songs, when I look
at Kiss from a Rose, who's the
songwriter? Seal. Who's the
producer? Trev. Trevor. Uh
um Trevor Horn, who's the songwriter on
Human Nature? Who is it? Is it Steve
Picaro and uh let's see
here? Steve Picaro and John Bettis.
Okay. Who's the producer? Quincy Jones.
One person. The police. Sting. One
writer. The producers. The police. and
uh and
um Hugh Padum, right? I mean, pretty
much these all these old songs are are
Smells Like Teen Spirit, written by Kurt
Cobain, produced by Butch Vig. There you
go. Used to be that people could write
their own songs. Stevie Wonder, written
by Stevie
Wonder, you know,
man. Oh boy, you guys are amazing. So, I
just thought I w wanted to address this
thing, but but the idea that I'm I'm
dunking on young people, this has
nothing to do with young people. All
this people that that uh half the people
on the on the top of the charts are
people in their 30s. And the people
writing the songs are in their 30s, 40s,
50s, and the people mixing the songs are
in their 40s and 50s.
So the idea that these so that I'm
dunking on people that are that are kids
that are writing their own songs, it's
like the these pop songs are written by
old
people. Anyways, that's all I have to
say for today. It's been great. Uh uh
love to know your thoughts. Hit
subscribe. We're getting near 5 million.
Um hopefully be there in I don't know,
two weeks or so.
Uh, we'll have a big party then.
Probably should be right around when I
hit f uh hit my ninth year.
Um, ninth year. You guys are amazing.
Great to have you on there. It wasn't
me. Thank you. Appreciate
it. Much love from Guatemala. There you
go. Um, we'll talk to you guys soon.
Have a great day. Take care.
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