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Welcome back to Pod Force 1. Today we're
coming to you from the President's Golf
Course in Turnbury, Scotland. I'm
Miranda Divine and I'm joined by
President Donald Trump. [Music]
[Music]
Thank you so much, Mr. president for
coming on Pod Force One again and
especially on this momentous occasion
when you have managed to get a trade
deal with Europe, the biggest trade deal
ever. How did you pull that off? Well,
we've been dealing a long time and uh I
have a lot of respect for the group and
uh as you know, you have a woman
president who's very very brilliant and
uh and very good, very talented at what
she does, Ursula, who you know and uh we
we made it is the biggest deal ever
made, I guess you could say. It's
certainly the biggest trade deal ever
made. And uh
was she tough to deal with?
Yeah. No, I mean, she was respectful.
She was We were all respectful.
But she's very good at what she does and
her people are very good and our people
are very good.
And when you think of it, we were
getting nothing in the old days, you
know, meaning prior to this, we're
getting nothing. And now we're getting a
lot. And it's going to be good for
everybody. And I think it's going to
pull a big part of the world together,
too. It's going to
Well, she seemed very happy at that.
She was very happy and and we're all
very happy. Yeah.
And who's next?
Well, we're dealing with China. We sort
of have the confines of a deal. We're
dealing with China. Uh we just con
concluded a deal, as you know, with
Japan where they're going to pay $550
billion and lots of good things are
happening there and uh they were happy.
I'm happy. You know, both sides have to
be happy.
Uh but we're taking in hundreds of
billions of dollars. Look, we were a
dead country a year ago and now we're
the most vibrant. We're the the coolest
country they say in the world. But uh I
think we're the most successful country
in the world right now. We're doing
numbers that nobody would have believed
is really even possible.
And it seems that a lot of countries in
Europe are now coming around to your way
of thinking. Uh even Germany is talking
about mega making uh Europe great again.
Um and so are you noticing that there is
a difference that people are especially
on migration on pro business policies
that the Europeans are changing?
Europe has a tremendous migration
problem. Immigration if you want to call
it that. Uh people are coming into
Europe. It's it's like
illegal. Yeah.
Well, it's going to be a different
place. You can't do this this beautiful
Europe that you know and I know so well.
Uh and I told them they have to stop
that. They have to stop windmills all
over the place, too. You go around, you
look at these beautiful valleys and
beautiful hills and mountains and you
got windmills all over the place.
Well, you were playing golf, weren't
you, on this beautiful golf course in
western Scotland. And what happened at
the 18th hole? Well, I'm looking down
the 18th hole and Turnber is I think
probably the best course in the world.
It's considered that by many people and
uh it's had four open championships,
etc. And I'm looking down and in the
distance and it's a pretty far distance,
but it doesn't matter. These things are
massive. And you're looking at these
ugly windmills,
and it's a shame. It's really a shame.
It's It's really hurting. You know, it's
a it's a conj job saying the
environmentalists want them because I
can't believe they really want it. Kills
the birds, ruins the look. They're
noisy. If you see them from your house,
your house is worth like 50% or more or less.
less. Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I just think it's uh I think it's a
very bad thing. Uh environmentally, it's
horrible and in every way it's bad. Uh
and you have to subsidize them. You
know, they cost money. When you put them
up, they cost money. Energy is supposed
to make money. Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not supposed to lose money. And
they lose a lot of money. And uh they
they're they're going to be abandoned
already. They already are. They're being
abandoned and then nobody takes them
down. They just stand up there.
Yeah, they've got them everywhere.
So, it's, you know, I just I do mention
that they talk about and I talked about
immigration first, but I said, and by
the way, while you're at it, get rid of
the windmills.
So, what would you do if you were
president of the European Union? What
would you change?
Well, I think the uh the biggest thing
that you could do is get a deal made
like we did today. Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh you know, they're buying $750 billion
worth of our energy. They're going to
invest 600 or $650 billion into the
United States and they're going to
invest uh probably $300 billion for the
military, maybe 400 billion in military
equipment separately. Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a massive deal for
everybody. I think what they did is very
smart. You know, they have a deal now
with us and it's going to bring us
together. It's going to unite us. We'll
work together. But it's numbers that
nobody's ever heard of before. And we're
sitting in Turnbury, your beautiful golf
course here. Um you're um been playing
golf with Eric, your son, and Don, and
your two grandchildren, um Chloe and Spencer,
Spencer, right?
right?
And um how was it for you? Like you're
back in your ancestral home really, your
mother's home. She was a Mloud from not
far from here. How do you feel about do
you feel sort of Scottish and having
three generations here? Well, you know,
I've been here and we have incredible uh
investments in Aberdine. Yes.
Aberdine is actually the oil capital of Europe,
Europe,
but we have they should really let that
go. Meaning, let it go to town. Yes.
Yes.
Instead of doing all this other nonsense
because they have tremendous oil
reserves in Aberdine and that's they
should be doing that instead of focusing
on other things that aren't so good. Yeah.
Yeah.
But no, it makes me feel good and you
know, Turnber is long term. It's it's
just this incredible place. In Aberdine,
I built something that's really special.
The most beautiful land you've ever
seen. And you know, it's uh makes me
feel good. My mother was born in
Scotland. She loves Scotland.
She was a big fan of the Queen, I have
to tell you.
And uh she anytime the Queen was on
television, my mother liked watching,
said, "Oh, the Queen's on." So, you
know, she was a fan. A lot of people
are, and some people probably aren't in
terms of the monarchy.
Yeah. But uh a lot of people are
and your mother's island of Lewis is
well known as being having the best
black pudding in the whole of Scotland.
I heard that.
Do you like black pudding?
Well, I don't know about black pudding.
I've heard that about but I'll tell you
it has among the most beautiful
landscapes you've ever seen. I say it's
it's seriously Scottish. It is uh in
fact I looked at a map. It's interesting
the the aisle of Lewis. I looked and to
get there you you it's it's just it's in
a remote section. Yeah.
Yeah.
You know when she came to New York she
was a young girl of about 18 years old
and she came to New York and she hadn't
seen the world and she met my father
and he was you know a successful guy. He
was a young guy but he was a successful
guy doing well. He was building houses and
and
and she was beautiful
and she was beautiful. She really was
beautiful. She was a beautiful woman.
And uh he came home that night. He said,
"I've just to my grandmother who was
fantastic person, my father's mother." Yeah.
Yeah.
He said, "Wow, I just met my wife." Really?
Really?
Yeah. And he was about 32, so he was a
little older. She said, "You know, when
are you going to get married?"
But he was he was a great guy. And but
he immediately knew there's a great you
know the the the Scottish people are
really amazing and they're great
fighters too you know they that's why
England sort of never
Yeah Braveheart
Braveheart one of the great movies of
all time but England had a hard time
with Scotland you know they're just
they couldn't quite tame them
they're very it's the first time I've
been here they're just such lovely people
people
great people now they're great no crime
you don't have crime you don't have
muggginings You don't have people
getting hit over the head when they're
not looking with a baseball bat. Uh
they're not pushed into a subway if they
had them, which they don't. You wouldn't
have them pushed into a subway. No.
No.
Uh no, it's a different kind of a place.
And do you feel an affinity here? Do you feel
feel
I do. I feel so great. And to have this
property because this is a very iconic
property. This was owned originally
built many years ago by the railroads
which were great. That was the big that
was the big wealth the railroads. and uh
they built a few resorts. This was the
the biggest of them all at the end of
the line
and you know to own it is uh it's one of
the great iconic properties in the world.
world.
And we just had a press conference in
your grand ballroom here, right?
right?
And is that the sort of ballroom you're
going to build at the White House?
Yeah. So, uh I built a ballroom at
Turnbury that really is beautiful. It's
uh it's one of the great places of
Scotland now. It's a tremendous business
because this is a location that sort of
everyone comes to weddings and
well it's also known it's a little bit
like I don't know what it is but it
seems to be a little warmer and better
and the weather's good and it's one of
the reasons. Yeah.
So uh I added on a ballroom which we
finished uh about three years ago
and it's a beautiful room. I said I
could take that room right now and place
it down next to the White House.
in the White House as you know for 150
years they've wanted to have a ballroom.
They don't have a ballroom. They have
meeting rooms. They have those beautiful
You've seen you've interviewed me in
those rooms. Yes.
But they have beautiful meeting rooms
but they never had a ballroom. A
ballroom meaning someplace they could
sit six or 700 people. If
the president of China or France or UK
or Ursula Yes.
comes to uh to town, you give them a big
state dinner. We don't have a room like
that at the White House. They have to
use a tent. And if it's raining, it's
soaking wet, soggy. The area is a very
low area. All the water rushes to it and
it's a disaster. So I said, you know, if
I win the second term, I'm going to
build a ballroom, beautiful ballroom for
the White House. And we actually have a
really beauty. But that that's a beauty
right there. I said, I could take that
right now and uh put
it's enormous. Eight chandeliers.
It's a it's a beautiful room. It's a
very successful room and they need that
at the White House. You know, they they
can't do the kind of things that they'd
like to do.
Their big room, which is really a
beautiful reception room, but not as a ballroom.
ballroom.
So, how long will it take to finish that ballroom?
ballroom?
So, we'll start in
two months, maybe two and a half months,
and we'll have it completed in
uh less than two years. Wow.
Wow.
It's a very incredible structure. I
mean, a lot of it's the interior work.
It's going to be beautiful. I'd rather
because normally I could build a
building like that in four or five
months, but it's very intricate inside.
It's beautiful. Beautiful. The best
marbles. It'll be a great tribute to the
White House. It's going to be something.
But they've wanted it for 150 years. And
other presidents have talked about it,
but it never got done.
Oh, you're the builder. The first
I'm the builder. Yeah, I I know how to
do And we're sitting in this lovely room
next to the ballroom with a view out
over the Irish Sea. And there's big rock
out there that's called Patty's
Milestone because it's halfway to Ireland.
Ireland. Right
Right
now, who went to Ireland but Rosie
O'Donnell to escape you? So, are you happy?
happy?
I feel so badly for them.
No, she's so bad. But, you know,
are you happy she's gone? And Ellen Degenerous.
Degenerous.
I mean, I don't think, you know, it's
funny. Uh, I did Ellen's show numerous
times, but you know, they just get into
the mood. I guess it's I don't know
what's happened to them. You take a look
at them, it's like, what what's going on?
on?
Trump derangement,
but it's Trump derangement syndrome, but
you don't know why. I mean, the country
is doing better. As I said, it's the
hottest country in the world right now.
And you'd think they'd be happy. And I
sort of with a little fun said, "Well,
we're thinking about not allowing Rosie
back into the country because she's very
bad for our country and things." And
she's gone crazy now. She's she's a a
different kind of a person.
She's more famous than she ever was.
Oh, she's probably doing better than she
ever did. Yeah. She never did great, but
she's doing better than she ever did.
It's sort of funny. I guess it it really
the big moment was the debate when we
had the debate and I said only Rosie
O'Donnell when they
myself things. I said, "Holy, Rosie Odell."
Odell."
And the whole audience burst into laughter.
laughter.
But it's funny you she may be doing
better than ever before. Maybe that's okay.
okay.
Now, talking about Trump derangement,
um, we've just Tulsi Gabbard, your DNI,
has just released all this incredible
declassified information about the
Russia hoax, which you already always
said was a hoax. We knew anyway.
But now she's referred President, former
President Barack Obama, CIA director
John Brennan, James Clapper, Jim Comey
from the FBI to the Department of
Justice for criminal investigation for
potential charges. Do you hope that
and Obama
and Obama
who was the ring leader? Yeah.
Yes. And I mean, he should be thanking
you because you got presidential immunity.
immunity.
Yeah. He's probably covered by that.
It's okay. That's all right. That's the
way it's supposed to be, I guess. But
no, uh, what they've done is so bad for
this country.
And it really started right at the 2016 election.
election.
And there's a difference when you know
it and when you know it, and it's all
written down for you. I mean, it's all
there. It's right there. The orders, the
memos, the whole thing. It's right there.
there.
Were you surprised when you saw it all
laid out?
I I would have thought they maybe would
have thrown it out. I don't know. You
know, they handed it. They say, "Put
this in highly classified." It was in
highly classified, you know, in areas
that normally you wouldn't get to, but I
guess when you put it in there, it's a
file, right?
And they uh they got to it and it's
unbelievable what when you read it, it's unbelievable.
unbelievable.
A real hoax, you know? It's a real hoax.
If they would devote their time to
winning elections or if they devote
their time to like great greatness,
making America great again,
it would be because there's a certain
genius to it. But it's also sick. I
mean, they're sick.
And you look at Hillary Clinton. You
look at all of the terrible things with
the Steel Dossier, and you know it
better. Nobody's covered it better than
you, to be honest with you. I mean,
you're sitting here so innocently
talking to me like, you know, it's
wonderful. You know the story better
than I do. But but it's uh it's
incredible. It's all there now. It's in
writing. And Tulsi's done a great job.
You know, there were some people that
really wanted Tulsi. They they thought
she was going to do a fantastic job. And
when you look, a lot of people uh would
not have found it. Uh they wouldn't have
found it to be politically correct to
find it. Okay? It would be easier not to.
to.
And she's tough.
And she's tough and she's smart. And she
she did she went into deep into the
files and she found it.
And uh it what it says is just terrible.
And look, this was an attempted coup.
It was a failed coup. I mean, I got to
be here. are him in talking as president
of the United States. So you almost say
had it and happened. Yeah.
There are people that say it's it's a
miracle in a way that I was able to uh
go through all these agencies and this
is before I was president and they did
the steel dossier which was a total
What a joke. Didn't your wife say she
knew it was a hoax from the beginning?
Well, she did. She said that's not you,
you know,
cuz it was so dirty. Well, there was a a
couple of things in there and she said,
"Well, on that one, I tell you what,
it's not you." And uh and it wasn't me.
No, it was all made up stuff. It was all
made up.
Do you feel angry now?
Yeah, I do a little bit. So, you know,
we had Hillary Clinton down to whatever
we wanted to do with her. And I felt it
was inappropriate. She's the wife of a
president. She was a secretary of state
and we could have done a very big number.
number. Yeah.
Yeah.
And I said, "Uh, we don't want to be
doing that. let's, you know, put it into
the country and not the concept of
putting her in jail,
indicting her, all the things that you
have to do. You know, it's tough stuff.
And I said, "We don't want to do that."
In fact, you remember I made speeches
when I mentioned her name, they started
locker. And I said, "No, no, this is
after we won. We just won."
And I said, "We have to get back to we
want to heal."
And yet they did it to me. Yeah.
Yeah.
So I feel differently. I mean, I'm a
human being. I have my feelings, too.
And so, I feel differently about it.
Obama, what he did was terrible. What
Brennan did and Clapper and Comey and
all these lightweights. So, I mean,
they're stupid people actually, but what
they did and and so unnecessary and they
made it really hard.
But ultimately, I don't know, they they
toughen you up. You either learn that
you can do that. How many people could
handle that?
Yeah. I've had so many people said, "How
did you handle that every day?" And they
come up with these different different
scams. They're all scams and they're
still doing it, you know, they're doing
it now.
How do you Because I think for people
out there would like to know what the
secret of your resilience is. What would
you tell your children or other people's children?
children?
Well, it helps to be innocent, right?
right?
It really does. I mean, you know, you
know it's not true.
Um, and I thought it was so far-fetched.
I think a lot of the things they do is
far-fetched. When you look at these scams,
scams,
it's it's almost a way of life with the
Democrats. They've got to stop. They've
got to stop. And now you look at the
kind of leadership they have. Look at
these people that they have. They're
third rate. These people are never going
to get elected no matter what they do or
say. But on top of that, they continue
with I saw somebody today arguing about
men playing in women's sports, arguing
ferociously that it should be allowed.
And you know, they say that's an 8020.
It's not. It's a 973 issue. Yeah.
Yeah.
And if they're going to keep doing that,
open borders. Somebody was arguing about
open borders. Let everybody pour into
our country. So last month we had nobody
come in. Nobody. Zero. I'm not even sure
I can believe that. You know, you're
talking about hundreds of thousands of
people. But they had hundreds of
thousands of people pour into our
country from gangs and from prisons
where they let them out of prisons from
all over the world. They come in from
Africa, the Congo, and Africa in
particular. And they come in from South
America. They come in from all over the world.
world.
And you know, they're criminals. I mean,
there are many criminals. There are 11,888
11,888
murderers. We get a lot of them out. Yeah.
Yeah.
But we're getting them out. It's a big
job to get them out. It almost feels
like an unforced error. You know, if you
think uh inflation I've already taken
care of, prices are way down for
everything, groceries, everything. We he
had the worst they had the worst
inflation in the history of our country.
Tarbotton. Yeah. Biden. So now
inflation's done. All these things were
doing so great. But the one thing we
really have to keep focusing on for a
long time is getting the criminals out
of our country that this guy let in. And
you say, why would they do it? You know,
a lot of people say it was for the
voting. They get their vote. I don't
think so. But look, there are a couple
of reasons. They're stupid or they hate
our country. That's what I view. I don't
think it was for the votes because they
they're very good at cheating. They
don't need to do that.
But you say, why would they allow
criminals to come in? Why would they
allow people from mental institutions to
come into our country and disturb our
country? And they're violent people.
Many of these people are violent people.
You know better than anybody. I mean,
they're real. You write on it somewhere.
They're violent, violent people.
Why would they do that? And you know,
the only thing I can think of is
they may hate our country. M. And so do
you are you feeling like even if Barack
Obama has presidential immunity, do you
think it's kind of justice for them to
have to lawyer up as James Clapper says?
I do. I do. I look at Clapper lied to
Congress. Comey lied to everybody.
Brennan. Yeah,
Brennan. He was maybe the worst in the group.
group.
These are all bad. These are low lives.
These are these are losers. These are
losers. And you know, I've been beating
them for 10 years. You know how many
times they were after me for so many
different things or doing
and when you think of it, I've been
beating them for 10 years, but that I
have to waste time and effort instead of Yes.
Yes.
focusing on the uh European Union deal. Yeah.
Yeah.
Or all these positive things that we can do
do
cuz it wrecked your first term, didn't it?
it?
Well, it didn't. Well, we had a great
first term,
but it certainly made it
it certainly made it less comfortable
and you know, you know, it was false.
You know, it was all bull
It was absolutely disgusting. Yeah,
Yeah,
it was uh but you have to explain that
to other people.
But in the end, they got it. They got
it. And we won by, you know, we won
every state. We won. We won everything.
We won every swing state. We won the
popular vote. We won the electoral
college by a lot.
That was the American people pushing back.
back.
They got it. The people understand it.
And the people understand it now.
So I said, "Look, you can't do that to
Hillary Clinton." I I was the one that
killed it.
And then they do the same thing to me. Like
Like
So no more Mr. Nice Guy.
Well, I just want to be fair. It's up
ultimately it's up to Pam. I think she's
doing a great job as attorney general.
It's up to her and her group, but they
did a lot of bad things. I mean this was
I would say it was treason. It was
treason. They made up all these stories
just fake stories and yeah I would say
it was serious treason and hurt the
country and put the country in danger.
You know they did on the Russia Russia
Russia hoax.
They lied unbelievably. How about Putin
being accused and he's no angel. That's
for sure.
But you know what does he think? He's
sitting back and he's being accused of
stuff and he's probably saying like
these people are crazy.
Yes. It's not good for the country. Do
you think it
it's dangerous? Actually, dangerous for
the country.
Why is that?
Well, you get into problems, disputes to
put it mildly with other countries.
We didn't have a dispute with him
because he knew it was uh nonsense, I
guess. I don't know. We didn't have a
dispute, but it did it it did make it
harder to deal with him. Do you think it
emboldened him to invade Ukraine under Biden?
Biden?
I don't know. I know that it would have
never happened. So, probably the answer
is no because it would have never
happened. That whole invasion would have
never happened if I were uh fairly
elected at that time because I won that
election. I I'll tell you what has been
shown uh in the last period of a few
months. We knew it before. You knew it
before. Everybody knew it. I knew it two
days after the election. I knew it the
night of the election. Yes,
but we knew that I won the election.
I won that election by 2020. I won that
election by so much. And the only reason
I ran is because that was my ultimate
poll. I knew how how well I did. I won
that election by millions of votes.
So that's why you ran again in 2014.
Well, I wouldn't have done it if I if I
thought I lost. I wouldn't have done it
because if I thought I lost, but we won
that election by millions of votes. And
we had an incompetent guy that never
left his basement that they kept quiet.
Nobody knew what because you know he was
incompetent 25 years ago. Yes.
Yes.
The senators will tell you and Joe at
his best was an incompetent
and now she's really bad.
What did you think of Hunter Biden
coming out and saying lashing other
Democrats for blaming his father for
losing the election?
Well, you know, they had a lot of they
had two chances to win the election.
they had him and that didn't work out
and you know he was down by 25 points or something
something
and then they switched him. It's like
taking a prize fighter out in the middle
of the fight. It's not fair. They took
him out. They they put Kamala. Nobody
knew who Kamala was. They didn't even
know her last name. Nobody knew her last
name. They still don't. They call her
Kamla. But uh I watched where she made a
speech this weekend and it was on tape.
This was supposed to be the big event
and it was like a minute and a half on
tape. I said, "I've never seen that
before." He go and make a speech and
she's going to be I guess they say she's
gonna try it again and I don't see it. No.
No.
But how about Crockett? Crockett's their
new star.
That's right.
And she's a low IQ person.
Well, it might be her and Hunter Biden.
They could do a joint.
Oh, this would be something. No, that
these people are crazy. So, you never
know what's going to happen.
We had our driver whose name is Jim
brought us here to Turnbury and he's a
fan of yours and he asked me to ask you
this question. He said, "When you
finished your term as US president,
could you come over to Scotland and run
Scotland as the first minister?"
Yeah. Well, Scotland though, and I think
you probably have a very good first
minister right now. Scotland, uh, look,
they don't have crime.
You could do it.
They don't have I could do that. you're
eligible. You can do it in your spare
time. You see?
I would think I might be eligible. I
could be within six months or something
like that. No, but
it is a special place, but they don't
have some of the problems we have. You
know, they don't have
big crime. They don't have uh they'll
have a different form of crime. They'll
get into an argument on something and
it'll be very minor compared to the kind
of things that you witness every day. Yeah.
Yeah.
But, you know, it's a very good way of
life actually.
Yeah. They're nice views, too. All you
have to do is look out the window.
There's beautiful views of the ocean
and the UK. You're having your state
visit with
So, he's coming tomorrow and he's a man. Yes.
Yes.
And he's coming tomorrow and uh he's
coming to Tbury actually. So, we're
going to meet and then we're going to
Aberdine and we're going to do a little
tours and things. But he's he's doing a
good job as the prime minister.
Yeah. And you're opening a new golf
course in your mother's name. We we
started it a couple of years ago and
it's a very beautiful beautiful piece of
land and it's uh it's going to be very
good. I have a course there and I had to
start this within a certain period of
time where I lost the zoning and Sean
Connory got me the zoning. Sean,
what did he do?
So Shan Connory, I didn't know him well.
I met him one time but he liked me. I
liked him and you know and he's a tough
kind of a guy as you probably know. If
you look at the Barbara Walters
interview, you know what I'm talking
about. But he was a tough guy and uh and
beloved in Scotland and you know big he
was the first James Bond and all of the
things and uh it was very tough zoning
environmentally here to get that
approved and when they approved it they
approved two courses but I had to start
the second one within 10 years from the
first etc etc. So, if I didn't start it,
let's say two years ago, uh we would
have lost that right. You'd never get it back.
back.
But John Connory, it was very hard
getting the zone because of the
environment and it was very highly
protected and all. It's called triplesi.
And he let out a howl once. He said,
"Let the bloody bloke build his damn
golf courses and let him put money into
our country. What's wrong with you?" And
soon as he said that, the whole thing
got approved like so fast. It was crazy.
I called him. I said, "Thank you very
much." I said, "You have great power."
He's like the king. I call him the king
of Scotland. But so I got to know him a
little bit after that. He was great. He
was a tough cookie. But uh
you do a very good Scottish accent.
Yeah. Well, but he did say that. He
said, "Let the bloody bloke build his
bloody golf courses." This is And you
know what? When he said that, it all it
just I got approved. But I had to start
the other one within a certain period
after the first
or you'd never get the zoning again. You
know, the environmental stuff is very
tough. A lot of people use the
environment to stop projects. Yes.
Yes.
And I didn't want that to happen.
And it's going to be called the Marian.
Well, it's going to be we have a section
of it that's beautiful in honor of my
mother. It's a beautiful section.
U we call it it's because it's Aberdine.
It's a very it's actually the oil
capital of Europe and it's uh the oil
capital of Europe is very important and
it's also really a beautiful area and uh
we did the first course it was
tremendously successful you know
aesthetically incredible and they're the
largest dunes just about the largest
dunes anyone's ever seen. They're
incredible. The whole place is amazing.
And so the trick was could I ever match
the first one which is so beautiful and
I think we did. We might have I don't
know. I can't say we we uh we surpassed
it. It would be hard to say that. It's
gotten such great reviews, but so we
they're cutting a ribbon tomorrow and
I'll be there with the prime minister.
I may if I if I get a chance, I'll do it.
it.
And uh you've while you've been playing
golf here, you've been doing work as
well. Uh I understand you had a phone
call with um the leaders of Cambodia and
Thailand who have been having a skirmish.
skirmish.
I did. So, I'm doing trade deals and
I've been reading in your papers and uh
seeing on wonderful Fox and seeing on
the wonderful New York Post, which is
great and edited by a fantastic person,
That's right. Yeah,
Yeah,
that's right. And uh so uh I've been
reading about the conflict with Cambodia
and uh as you know it's it's been a real
the the two countries are really been uh
they really been fighting and I we
called we got them both together and I
think they're going to make I think
they're going to make a uh peace deal. I
just saw it two minutes ago. you know,
I'm trading. I'm doing trade deals with
all of these countries. And I'll say
sometimes uh I had Serbia, Kosovo, I had
with uh the Congo. Now, the Congo is not
heavy on trade, but I was able to get
that done with Rwanda
and uh
so you're using trade.
Well, we're doing I'm using trade to
make peace.
Peace, right?
Uh India and Pakistan was
really important. I mean if you look but
India and Pakistan was a very a very big
thing and that was that could have gone
nuclear. Those are both nuclear. Yes.
Five jets were shot down. I mean it was
getting worse and worse and I said look
we're we're supposed to be making a
trade deal.
If you don't make the trade if we're not
going to make a trade deal if you guys
are going to fight anyway that stopped
and we've done some others. I did I
think I did five. It could even be six. So,
So,
uh, I think we have a situation where
you could end up with beasts and they've
had I think a few thousand people were
killed uh in this one, right?
right?
And in some cases a lot more than that.
So, I think we have maybe a deal and uh
we did a deal with Cambodia. We were
doing a deal. We're getting ready to
sign it and I'm saying we're not signing
it unless you make a deal with your next
door neighbor, which is a very good
neighbor. They've been neighbors for a
long time, but they've had some fights
over the years, and I think uh I think
it's going to get done.
And what about uh Putin?
By the way, I'll get no credit for it.
Nobody's going to give me credit for any
of them.
Well, we're giving you credit now.
You'll give the Nobel Prize to somebody
that wrote a book about Donald Trump and
analyzed his mind perfectly.
Well, they gave it to Barack Obama when
he'd been there five years after after
two minutes.
It's like the Pulitzers that went to the
Washington Post in New York Times.
Isn't that a great one when the Pulitzer?
Pulitzer?
Yeah. You know there's litigation on
that right now because the bulleters got
it exactly wrong. It was the exact
opposite or the Russia Russia Russia hooks
hooks
and you know there's litigation going
on. Major
you sued
I think yeah I think that's going to be
turned around. I think there's no way
they can the Pulitzers have lost so much
credibility and prestige over that whole
thing. It's terrible.
Well like the Nobel when they gave it to
Barack Obama for doing nothing.
Yeah. Or gave it to other people.
You could restore it. if you add the
Abraham Accords to all of the other
things. But I could put I've had many
people say that I could have gotten six
of them for what I've done. I could have
gotten six of them right now.
So Putin,
it's too bad.
Uh we have wonderful conversations
and then I go home, I turn on the news
and I see that uh Kiev has just been
bombed. It's just been ripped into.
can't can't do that stuff. I mean, I
said, "Wait a minute. I just spoke to
him four hours ago, and now all of a
sudden they're sending bombs into Kiev
and other places."
And the first lady's very aware of all
that, isn't she?
Well, she is. And uh look, we know Putin
and she likes him. And I I look, it is
what it is. You get along with people. I
got along with him very well.
Well, you have to.
And you know, well, you ideally you have
to. it's a lot better if you have to.
But she said, "It's too bad. They just
bombed Kiev." And I had just spoken to
him that afternoon. And I come home and
I find out that people are laying all
over the streets that are dead. And uh
so it's uh it's a tough situation. I'm
I'm disappointed in him. I must be honest.
honest.
You gave him a 50-day deadline, didn't you?
you?
I did, but I think I'm going to move the
deadline up because there's no reason to
wait that long. It's a deadline, and
after that, we'll either do sanctions or
tariffs or something. But you might
shorten the deadline.
Yeah, I'm going to move it up. You know,
why to stop the killing?
I think when you know the answer.
Look, I said from the beginning, first
of all, it never would have happened,
but once it started, I said he's going
to go for the whole thing. He's not
going to
and I was I think I was probably right
about that.
So, what do you think? How will it end?
To be determined. Let's see what
happens. Let's see what happens. But
we've had great conversations, but
it hasn't been followed up followed up
with, you know, just some very bad
things have happened. Very very bad
things have happened after we've had conversations.
conversations.
And I' I'd leave I'd say, well, I I
really thought we had it settled three
or four times.
Now, with all of that being said, it
should have never started. That would
have been 100% and that was 100%. It was
never going to start. I used to talk to
him about Ukraine. It was the apple of
his eye.
But you know what? Uh, he's had a hard time.
time. Yes.
Yes.
He's had a hard time. This has not been,
you know, it was supposed to be a
three-day war and now you're going
past three years and it's a vicious. And
they're losing five, six,000 people.
Every single week they're losing 5,000 people
people
and they're soldiers. You know, look, I
don't have to be involved. They're
Russian and Ukrainian soldiers. And
there's some people in the towns as they
lob missiles into these towns and cities.
cities.
But it's 5,000 souls that have parents and
and
wives and girlfriends and boyfriends and
everything else. Do you think of your
own sons and
I don't think of it I don't like to
think of it that way but but uh it would
be easy to settle
and it's going to be a long time and and
one thing I I will say the European
Union now is going to take over all
payments that we were you know we were
giving them hundreds of billions of
dollars we we gave them Ukraine $350
billion dollars and we're on this side
of the ocean you know it's not it wasn't
our war
no But through Biden, he gave $350
billion dollars. And I wonder where it
all went. Didn't just all go to weapons.
But Europe gave a hundred. We gave 350.
And it should probably be exactly
reversed if you want to know the truth.
But now the uh NATO is going to pay us
100% the cost of all the weapons and
everything. So NATO will distribute the
weapons and they're going to pay for them.
them.
That's a good deal.
Well, it's a much different deal than we
had before.
Yes. Yeah. Thank you so much, Mr.
President. You're very kind with your
time and thank you for hosting us in
this beautiful part of the world.
Well, thank you and your ratings are
very good and I want to congratulate
you. I was very impressed. I saw him the
other day and I said I'm not surprised.
Well, with stars like you and Susie
Wilds, your chief of staff and Monica
Crowley and the rest of your cabinet are
all superstars. Really? Congratulations.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
That's all we've got from Turbury today.
I'm Miranda Divine and this is Pod Force
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