The transition driven by AI and technological change will be disruptive and potentially painful, but ultimately offers an opportunity for humanity to shift from survival-based values to spiritual growth by focusing on internal certainty, creativity, and contribution rather than external validation and work.
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There's no guarantee of this being a
smooth transition. I'd say 3 to 10 years
is my guess. But you know, I don't think
all business will be gone or changed at
that time period. But the question
really is, you know, how do you provide
certainty for people? Right? People ask
me all the time, how do you provide
certainty for people when the external
world no longer offers certainty? And I
would argue that you don't have to deal
with it at all because it's already true.
true.
>> What I mean is there is no external
certainty. You know, external certainty
is a total illusion. You have rented
certainty because you have a certain
business or you have a certain category
of a certain income. You have certain
relationships. But you know a co for
example instantly changed all of that
overnight for people. You you walk
across the street and get hit by a car
and you know things like this are always
been a part of our lives. So I think
it's really dispelling the illusion of
certainty and finding people and the
ability to get that internal certainty.
Look neuroscience is teaching us that
same as AI our brains are predictive
machines. It's constantly trying to
predict what's going to happen and close
the gap between what it predicts and
what reality is. And when it's doesn't
match up, that's when that craziness,
that anger, that fear shows up. So, it's
going to show up on a large scale. So,
if we're going to make the transition, I
think we have to anticipate what's
coming. So, when those jobs are
disrupted, what will people hang on to?
The answer is we have to give them two
things. First, help them develop an
identity as a creator. Here's what I
mean by that. Most people that you talk
to in daily life are stressed, but we
think it's more stressful because we're
managers today. We try to manage so
much. We were not made to manage our
circumstances. We're made to create.
When you're managing circumstances, you
don't feel any sense of agency. You
don't feel like you're in charge. And
most human stress comes from the fact
that you feel events are controlling you
versus you're controlling events. When
you become a creator of life on your
terms, it doesn't matter what changes in
the outside world. Now, there's one
other piece you might say practically,
like what skills would somebody need to
be able to do well? Because I think
about my grandkids and my younger kids
and I say, "How do I arm them?" >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
>> Right. Not just with money or resources.
How do I arm them to have self-esteem to
know they can play the game? And the
answer is develop an identity that says,
"I'm the kind of person that always
finds the way. I'm the person that can
find meaning anything and empowering
meaning. I know how to use my body to
produce certainty, not try to get it
from the outside world, which is an
illusion. I have an identity. I'm the
person that makes it happen. Then
there's the skill. There's three skills.
If you master these three skills, it
doesn't matter what happens with AI. It
doesn't matter. You'll still be a part
of what wins. Cuz in the end, you're not
going to be replaced by AI. You're going
to be replaced by someone who knows how
to use AI. The skill number one is
pattern recognition. When you recognize
a pattern, it eliminates fear. But the
second skill is pattern utilization.
Once you recognize financial patterns,
business patterns, patterns of
technology, you're not fearful. Once you
start to use those patterns, you become
powerful. But the third target that I
all my kids, I want them to move towards
and constantly reinforcing is pattern
creation. You're bringing something to
the table that's never been there
before. And if I study these three skill
sets, I'll always be able to learn. And
as I learn, I'll be able to master
anything life brings me, including AI,
technology, robotics, nanotechnology, etc.
I've heard a lot of people say this
before, like, you know, they say for
4,000 years our identity has been tied
to work. What happens when we don't have
to work anymore? And it's just not true.
For 4,000 years, before the aggregian
transformation of our society, as you
said, we're into survival. But really,
what we were tied to was a tribe. We
were tied to connection and
contribution. Those are two human needs
that have never gone away and are not
going to go away if there's no quote
work. Now I don't know if I buy there'll
be no work for human beings personally.
Um I could be dead wrong but I just I I
don't buy that necessary future.
Certainly not in the next 3 5 years
they're describing what are the drives
that aren't just motivational. What are
the drives that are built into all human
beings? And I finally discovered what I
consider to be the six human needs that
drive everything. In other words,
whatever people do, they have a reason.
There's a million reasons. There's six
needs that drive those reasons or those
stories, right? The first basic human
need is certainty. the need to be able
to be comfortable, to avoid pain. Some
people get certainty by lowering their
expectations. Some people get certainty
by trusting in God and saying, "There's
a higher purpose. I'm going to be
guided." Some people get certainty by
working out and feeling that certainty
in their body. You can get certainty by
eating a lot of food. You're all
stressed out. Eat a lot of food and your
stomach fills up and you start to
breathe better, right? Cuz you're full.
Or you smoke a cigarette. Take a breath
in and blow it out nice and slow and you
feel better. You're killing yourself,
but you feel comfortable while you're
doing it, right? It's just provides
certainty. You can find certainty in
positive ways, neutral ways, or negative
ways. So, we all have different rules, a
different map about how to meet that
need. But if you were certain every
moment of your life, you know what's
going to happen, when it's going to
happen, what someone's going to do, what
they're going to say. In the beginning,
that would feel great. But after a
while, you'd be bored out of your mind.
Which is why the universe, God, whatever
you want to call it, gave us a second
need, which is uncertainty. We have a
need for uncertainty. We have a need for
surprise. So is the goal to be the
lukewarm middle? No. The goal is you can
meet multiple through multiple beliefs
or actions or emotions. You can meet
multiple needs. The third need is the
need for significance. The need to feel
unique, to feel special, to feel
important. You can get significance by
working harder than anybody else, being
more generous. You can get significance
by be, you know, beating up on somebody,
right? You know, verbally tearing
somebody down. You have the illusion if
they go down, you go up, right? There's
so many ways to do it that are positive
and negative. The reason we have
violence, it's one of the fastest ways
to feel significant and certain and have
variety. It also meets the fourth need
unfortunately which is connection and
love. Not the love part, but the
connection part. Everyone needs
connection and love. So the first four
needs are the needs of the personality.
But the ultimate needs are spiritual
needs. Not religious but spiritual. And
that is everything in life has to grow.
Everything grows or it dies. That's not
my law. It's the law of the universe and
everything in the universe if it doesn't
contribute it's eventually eliminated
right so we have to contribute we have
to give something when we contribute
have something to give and that's when
you have a spiritual high that's when
people feel fulfilled as opposed for
survival so I say this because to let
talk about someone losing their job or
their sense of identity or their
self-worth because they're not doing it
through their work anymore I would be
concerned about that if I thought the
only way we could meet our needs for
significance and certain cy would be
through work. But look, we've already
lived a postwork world to some extent if
you go back in our history as humans,
right? So there are many ways to meet
our needs. Right? Now we have been
driven to think of it only in one
predictive way for the last couple
hundred years. But we've done it before
and we can do it again. But the answer
to your question is will we as a society
do that quick enough? Will everybody
make that happen quick enough? I'm
afraid to say the answer is no. In my
opinion, my biggest concern is if you
don't have any work, how do you find
meaning? I know you can do it. There's
many ways to do it, but we have to
educate people and we've got to retool
them. There is a way to meet all of our
needs. It's going to be a call. And I
think what AI is doing is it's a
spiritual call. I know that's my view of it.
it.
>> We're going from survival values to
spiritual values. from external focus to
more internal focus that we're able to
share and make the world better. That's
the upside of this. But the transition
time is going to be painful. And if you
look at history, most of those
transitions are a 5-year period roughly.
If you look at the every type of major
disruption that's happened with
technology in the past, I hope it's not
like that. I hope we can conversations
like this like we're having can be
stimulated and other people have them at
a high level and that people like you
and I can try to create as much
influence with those who have influence
to make that shift. So the way to prep
for the future is prep society by giving
the ability to have a different
psychology about change and figuring out
the ways in which we're going to create
that transport. What do the most
successful people on earth have in
common? And my first response in the
early days was extraordinary
intelligence. But I found there are
brilliantly smart people that can't
fight their way out of a paper bag in
real life. So the number one factor is
hunger. The hunger to be more, do more,
create more, give more. A hunger that
never goes away.
>> As long as that hunger is alive, the
world is going to be something that's
going to be a beautiful place for you.
And all these tools are tools you will
use with your agency to create something
extraordinary. If you can think of your
life in terms of the hero's journey story,
story,
>> it's been taught a million times. It's
in every every culture in the world. We
all know of Joseph Campbell. But I just
want to remind people whatever you're
dealing with, technology change, job
change, career change, like everyone is
going to experience what the first step
is in that hero's journey. Your life
seems to be okay and then something
happens. They call it the call to
adventure. It doesn't feel like
adventure when you lose your job or the
government shuts you down with co. And
so we experience that extreme stress
that people experience. We're all going
to experience it. But what happens is
most people try to not go on the call
like just ignore it. And it only gets
worse. As you know, if you push through
those moments, the people that do, they
get three things out of it. Number one,
they realize how strong they are. And
all these other things you're worried
about go away cuz you start realizing, I
am so much more than I thought I was.
Second, you learn who your real friends
are, not your Facebook friends or
whoever you call them, right? The ones
that are there when it's not going well.
And third, you get almost an immunity to
future challenges. And when you go
through that cycle, you become more and
you have now something to give. You come
home a new person. And as soon as you
think it's all over, it happens again.
So AI is the call. New technology is the
call for us to become more. Again, to
move from survival to spirit, to move
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