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We would split test every video,
not on the page that we were gonna post it on.
We would actually run Facebook ads,
dark posts on other pages,
and I would put about five, $6 on each variation.
So if I'm gonna shoot a video, I'm either shooting three
or four different hooks, different opening shots.
'cause I may think the flash forward
of the guy getting the shaving cream in the face.
Is, is the opening shot, but it's also a payoff.
It is that too much. Do people care?
I would test that hook versus getting right into it.
I would test the opening shots
and I would test different links on my video.
Is it better as a 32nd video or a 62nd video?
Today, I am very excited to be joined by Adley Kinsman.
If you don't know who Adley is,
she is a viral video strategist
who specializes in helping brands and celebrities go viral.
Her course is called The Billion View Formula,
and it's designed to help creators
and entrepreneurs leverage viral video.
Adley, welcome to the show. How you doing today?
Hey Michael, I'm so happy to be here.
I'm super excited that you're here today.
Adley and I are gonna share a proven method to creating
viral organic videos.
Now, before we get started, we need to hear your story.
How in the world did you get into video?
Start wherever you wanna start. Oh
Man. I love this
question because obviously not everybody just
comes outta the womb as a viral video
scientist, engineer, whatever you wanna call
It. I don't know of anyone having
done that.
We all get where we, where we are somehow or another.
Um, and I bet like many other people's stories is something,
uh, I fell into.
Um, but I, there is a larger backstory here,
but I'll start with the one that I think matters to most
of you, uh, which is really begins during Covid.
I was making videos for a long time.
Um, you know, I was vlogging for like 13 people that cared
for a year, but I just loved it coming
from a musical background.
I was on the voice before that
and it was very first. Really?
What season? Season two.
Whoa, that's way back. Okay.
If you are new to me, please, for the love of God,
do not go look up that episode.
It is like watching an
or asking an artist
to see the very first picture they ever painted.
I have to ask who judging by that it's
Horrible. Was who were the
judges?
Was Ceelo Green one of 'em or who was it? Do you remember?
Yes, it was slo, it was Christina Aguilera.
It was Adam and it was Blake and I. Okay.
Christina and Blake turned around
and I ended up on Team Blake.
Oh, sweet. Okay. Keep going
with the story. That's so cool.
So that, that's what moved me to Nashville
and got me into the field of entertainment.
Spent the next eight years in entertainment touring.
Uh, was songwriting down on Music Row,
had an office on music row.
But overall, like the theme
of it was being really frustrated by a suit behind a desk,
like waiting to give me permission to be successful,
to entertain people, and if it was all
on somebody else's terms.
Um, and like anybody with an entrepreneurial spirit,
when you know that you're good at something
and you're just having to sit back and
and wait, it's very frustrating.
And to be honest, I was always more interested
and more fired up by how to market the music
that I was making than I ever was by making it.
Mm-hmm. I was like, what good is it sitting on my phone
or on my computer if no one ever hears it?
Right. So that's what I tried to really focus on
and got really fired up by really unique ways
to get people to hear what I was up to.
And, uh,
so I was making videos even while I was touring with Blake Shelton.
We went out on a mid-size stadium tour,
like played Penn State Stadium, Iowa University.
We were just playing all these college football stadiums
and started making videos on the road.
And in a nutshell, this is such a nutshell,
but I put chickens in a bathtub one night
and did a hundred thou,
I gained a hundred thousand followers in 24 hours,
and I did 19 million views.
And that is when the light bulb went off for me of, wow,
this is how I can get in front of millions of people
with an authentic, my authentic story
and a point of relatability,
and then I can just turn on a camera
and I can actually get paid for it
and I can entertain on my own terms.
Holy crap. And that was really the light bulb for me
that got me into making videos.
And then I started, you know, just trying to do it over
and over again and learned this different side
of storytelling and maybe the musical
songwriting background helped.
Um, I'm sure that it did.
But this felt like storytelling
with no parameters and no rules.
And I could reiterate, um,
and continue to do test new messaging.
I mean, I could do 18 videos a day, right.
And I taught myself editing and all these different things.
Um, but I was averaging around 20 18, 20 19,
we were averaging about 20 million views a week.
Wow. Which I was blown away by.
It was five years of like, nobody watching, nobody caring,
but me just loving it and saying, gimme enough time
and I will crack this code.
I don't know when, I don't know God's timing,
but I love it enough
and I have a passion enough for it
that I'm going to figure it out.
And then it was probably about the five year mark
around when Covid hit
and, you know, everybody
was just at home sitting on their phones.
And we went from averaging 20 million views a week
to over 200 million views a week.
Okay. It was over a billion views a month.
And we've sustained a billion views a month in organic
content of all different niches,
all different styles since 2020 going on five years now.
Wow. Okay. So bring us up to what you're doing now.
Like, um, wonderful stories.
So now what are you doing
with all these things that you've learned?
So now, never meant to start a company,
but it's happened to us
and I've had to learn so many new skill sets.
Um, but we have a company called Ish,
and there's really three different divisions
of ish OG ish is if you're watching on video,
what you can see behind me,
we have about seven gold plaques from YouTube,
which is channels that owe over a million subscribers.
We have about 37 million owned subscribers
that we built from the ground up cross platform.
We syndicate to about 75
to a hundred million plus followers every single day.
And that's how we're continuing to create
and distribute over a billion organic views a month.
So that's kind of OG is creation
and distribution creator management.
Um, and then, you know what,
like, I mean, how do I scale this?
I can't just wake up and make 18 videos a day anymore.
You know, what if I get sick? What,
what if I wanna take a vacation?
And so we started training more creators how
to do this once it became so formulaic for us.
And I'm really excited to break this down for you guys
because we use the same formula no matter
what video we are creating.
I don't care if it's an ad for Land Rover, a video
for Charmin, if we're staging a Karen on an airplane,
crazy things caught on ring camera
or I'm just pranking my husband.
The same formula works for all of them.
So once we established that, we, I wanted
to train more people how to do this
because once you change your own life,
it really is natural human behavior to wanna turn around
and show everybody else how to do this
because it's not fun to win alone.
So we taught all of our friends and family how to do it.
Everybody makes videos full-time still to this day,
uh, which feels really great.
But we started making these videos,
started educating people,
and then as I'm sure you understand,
it gets very tiring training one-on-one or one-on three.
I did that for a couple years
and I didn't wanna put it all into a course
like everybody was telling me to.
'cause I was really afraid, Michael,
of becoming like this guru
who just sells information even though we had, we were
so credentialed in it.
Um, but I didn't want to be seen that way.
But I got tired enough and enough people got in my ear,
they were like, Adly, just pack, teach it one time,
package it up, and now you can scale it to,
you could be a viral creator anywhere, right?
You can have viral creators all over the world.
And so that was, that was attractive enough.
And I was tired enough to
where I was like, all right, I'm gonna do it.
Uh, so we put, we packaged this into a remote training
program for creators.
Well, when we started running ads,
it attracted 95% business owners.
So I'm like, oh crap.
Like this is a totally different avatar
than who I made it for.
But all these, you know, boring businesses
or even big businesses, they need to know how
to story tell on social media too.
So we've continued to adapt it.
We have a, we have our Pro billion view course,
we have our training program, a recurring program.
We have my mastermind,
and then we have all these brands coming to us,
some I mentioned earlier, uh, first form,
which I'm drinking right now, being one of them.
And we'll guarantee, for example,
first form 10 million views a month, minimum baseline.
I mean, viral is viral, right?
So, but at least 10 million views a month integrating
largely their energy drinks into viral content
and viral communities at scale.
So that's our done for you.
We only take on about eight of those clients a year
because we're still a very small lean team.
But that's a, a good example of viral in our flywheel
for attention solutions for brands and creators.
All right. This is amazing
and I am super excited that you got a chance to share
that amazing story.
Now, I wanna ask an important question.
Why should marketers 'cause most people listening
to the show, we've got
entrepreneurs and creators, but mm-hmm.
Most of them identify as marketers.
Why should they be creating organic viral videos?
You know, because maybe
that's not their ideal target audience, right?
So talk to me a little bit about why that's so important.
100%. Well, lemme just ask you this.
If I offered you one free billboard with your brand
or your face on it in Nashville,
or I offered you 100 free billboards in
Nashville, which one are you gonna choose?
Which brand is gonna get the most
awareness, visibility, and leads?
The hundred, The 100 billboards. Right?
And so if you are gonna make content anyways,
what we teach people is listen, try these tips.
They are tried and true and tested.
We have produced thousands and thousands
and thousands of viral videos.
We use the same formula for all of them.
I'm not saying the tips I'm gonna show you today are going
to make every video instantly go viral,
but I am telling you it will significantly
increase your batting average.
And it's not just about creating viral videos,
it's about creating more compelling content awareness.
If we can get more awareness for a brand more awareness
and attention equals leads, equals sales.
And so the more organic content you can make
and the better you can make it, you're gonna be able
to test your messaging and you're gonna iterate at scale
and with speed in front of thousands
and thousands and thousands of people.
Um, so we just help you at our core
become better storytellers.
Well, and I also think there's another angle here
that a lot of people don't consider,
which is brand awareness, right?
So maybe your video goes viral
and um, your sister or your mother
or your daughter sees the video, right?
But they might know somebody
who might want that product, right?
And that is kind of like, Hey, I remember so
and so telling me about this thing, right?
And then all of a sudden there,
there's a basic marketing principle
that most everybody understands.
People buy products from those whom they know first,
it's whom they know, right?
And then they like, and then they trust.
So if they know or someone knows of that brand
because it was somehow in a video that went viral,
it's going to radically increase the likelihood
they're gonna wanna do business with them. Would you agree?
Uh, that's so well said. Absolutely.
And a lot of people are, I'm a little bit controversial in
my stance that everybody's saying you need
to call out your avatar in the first seven seconds.
Like speak directly to your very, very niche audience.
And I really swing the other way.
There is a place for middle
and bottom of the funnel content
where you are just niched down right away.
Sure. But I'm gonna say, I mean, 60% plus of your content
or more should be top of funnel content
because I'm, I'm not a mom, I don't have kids yet,
but when mom content goes really, really wide top of funnel
and makes a widely relatable piece of content,
it ends up in my algorithm.
I'm, to your point, I'm sending it
to all the other moms in my life.
Like, holy crap, this just came up my feed.
You would love this. This is so funny. Or this is great.
Wow. Johnny would love this, right?
I'm sending it to those moms.
And algorithmically what that does for you,
even if you're talking to it, gets served
to somebody who's not your core audience.
Shares are so heavily weighted right now in the distribution
of the algorithm shares and helping,
and especially what the ones that come from hitting explore,
it's gonna help you find more lookalike audiences.
So really what we help people do is get really great at
their top of funnel awareness content,
because I don't need to tell you this
and I probably don't even need
to tell the other marketers that are listening to this.
You already know that we are in the greatest wave
of free advertising that the world has ever seen.
So if you're gonna make 30 pieces of content a month,
or if you're gonna make three,
use these tips we're gonna get into today
to help 10 x your reach out of the gate.
I don't even care if you use three
of the probably 15 we're gonna talk about.
Right? If you get the other half of them,
like this is gonna be head knowledge today.
The other side of that is execution.
But if you get your reps in
and start executing on some of these,
there's no way you're not gonna see a difference.
I, I haven't seen it yet.
I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it.
Okay, so you've got a really cool process
and let's just kind of start
with the first step. Where do we begin?
Okay, so what our billion view formula is essentially is
six simple steps that when combined are going
to drastically increase your batting average
for quote unquote going viral.
Now, viral is a word that is very subjective, right?
I asked, I had asked the kid the other day,
he told me he went viral.
He was so pumped using one of our tips.
And, uh, I said, that's so cool.
What, what is just outta curiosity? What is viral to you?
What's the video at? And he said, 40,000 views.
And he was used to averaging three to 400 views.
Or, you know, maybe a couple thousand, 40,000 views
to him was, was viral that he had never seen that before.
Such an outlier, right?
And viral to us is anything maybe over 5 million.
So it is a relative thing, I think to everybody.
Um, so just keep that in mind. But it is six simple steps.
So we'll go through each of them.
The first one being obviously you guys could fill in the
blanks, it's the hook, right?
And why does everybody talk about the hook?
It's because if you don't get it right,
literally nothing else
that we talk about today is gonna matter.
Nothing. And I could teach you this anchoring tactic.
I could teach you these things to do
to increase your engagement
and raise the stakes, which I will.
But so this girl to me, she came up the other day
and she goes, add, I, you know,
tried your anchoring technique
and suspense, and you know what?
It didn't work. 'cause the video tanked.
And I said, okay, show me. Show show me your retention line.
She pulls it up. I'm like, well, yeah, Becky, of course.
No, it didn't work. You lost 75%
of people in your first four seconds.
No one even saw it. No one even made it that far. Right?
So it, it is the hook.
Um, and so what our number one thing that we want you guys
to do, if you get nothing else from this call,
I want your goal today to be, to get 90% retention
on your first six seconds in your hook.
That is what we're aiming for.
And that does come directly from our TikTok rep,
but we've tested it and it runs
parallel to every major algorithm.
If you can get 90% retention on your first six seconds,
you're gonna be well on top 1%
of all content being offered up
and distributed across the algorithm.
It is very hard to do.
So a lot of people like, well, yeah, A okay, cool.
Sounds easy. We don't have thousands of
viral videos under our belt, right?
Um, so what we teach people to do in order to do
that is something that we'll call the combo method.
There's a lot of ways to be really sticky in a hook
and try to get that 90% retention on the first six seconds.
Uh, but let's break down
what the combo method is really when you're trying
to get 90% retention on the first six seconds.
Yes, that is very difficult,
but it's like my mom taught me in high school, right?
We're gonna set the bar so high adley so that when you fall,
when you make a mistake
and you don't get it perfectly right,
you're only gonna fall here, not all the way back down.
So if you get 82% retention on your first six seconds,
you're still doing pretty great.
Okay? But we're gonna aim for 90.
So before you ever make a video, say,
how am I gonna get every fricking person who thumbs,
scrolls across this video to stop and hook them in, right?
Every hook has to have two things.
These are non-negotiables. Write these down.
If you're taking notes, it has to have an emotion.
It has to elicit an emotional response from the viewer, has
to, has to, and it has to have a curiosity gap.
You're gonna create an itch that you're not gonna scratch
until the last few seconds of your video.
So has to create an emotion, has to have a curiosity gap.
And the easiest way that we've found to do that is
through something that we've coined the combo method,
which essentially is combining two things
that don't normally go together, right?
I'm an entertainer first, not an educator.
Um, and I just am an entertainer who so happens
to have a deep, deep passion for relaying the knowledge of
how we entertain successfully.
Um, but for me, if you are looking at my Instagram,
I'm taking a rack of ribs
and I'm putting it on the engine
of a car in the opening shot.
Okay? So that is two things
that don't normally belong together.
They do elicit a curiosity gap of
what the hell is she doing?
And they do spark an emotion.
Like, you shouldn't be doing that. What are you doing?
Like, it is, it is a shock value thing for me, right?
Shock value is, is a really strong way to go.
Um, if you're doing Talking Head podcast clipping type
content, educational style content,
it could be combining two things that don't go together,
like ideologies, like controversial statements, right?
Uh, Dr. Julie is an example I use a lot.
She's an educator, but she does really awesome visuals
to combine two things that don't go together.
She'll be, she'll take a sharpie
and start drawing on her hand
and on her body putting a sharpie on her skin,
which you should not normally do.
And she'll, she'll be talking about trauma
and what trauma does and looks like in the body and healing.
So she's doing really heavy topics,
but she's anchoring you with a what are you doing?
Why are you drawing on your body?
And she's eliciting a curiosity gap to figure out
where she's going with that, right?
What is the resolve? What are we gonna realize she's drawing
on her body about what conclusion is she getting to?
Um, so that's what we mean when we talk about the combo
method being a great way
to land anybody's attention in the hook.
So talk to me about the emotional response side of it,
because that feels a little harder for me to grasp.
I totally understand doing something, two things together
that seem completely incongruent.
Mm-hmm. But how do you get
that emotional response also going in there?
If I said it's really, I was trying to see if it applies
to you two things here.
So if I am, if I'm a a guy
or a girl, I want to, I wanna position my first line,
my hook line in a way that appeals to both parties.
So say 90, um,
I'm just making something up on
the spot trying to make a, well,
You can, you can just give an example
of something you've done, you know,
or anyone else has done to kind
of help explain the emotional side of it, you know,
Uh, sure. Uh, maybe
I say something po politics work really well.
Okay. Say a controversial thing about Taylor Swift.
Something that's widely appealing that is gonna get a No,
it doesn't, or Yeah.
Preach on like something that people
Can agree with I See.
Or disagree with, or have some type of feeling about Yeah.
Right. Or get angry about Right. Anger, fear.
Those are really big emotions that are
A great example would be like Bitcoin.
Okay. Right? You've got people that absolutely love Bitcoin
and you know, you've got people that absolutely hate it
and think it's a complete scam, right?
Like, why you're a financial advisor. I don't know.
You could get creative with that, right?
Like, uh, the financial traditional people are gonna say,
that's a scam, you know,
and then you've got the next generation
that's gonna be like, no, this
is like the biggest thing ever.
You know, I would imagine something
like that. I don't know. Yeah.
So if you say controversial statement about Bitcoin,
you're gonna get Bitcoin advocates being like, yeah,
either on your side or against your side.
But either way, whichever group people are in
and they're really kind of in one group
or the other, they're gonna be curious enough if you do this
sentence right, to stick around
to see if you're proving their point
or if you're teaching them something
new or they disagree with you.
Because the second part of this is when it comes
to eliciting an emotion, I need to define
what emotion I'm wanting the viewer to have.
Am I wanting them to think they're gonna learn something?
That's a big one. Mm-hmm.
Especially for marketers and educators.
Do they think they're gonna learn something
or am I trying to make them laugh?
Like, when people come to my page, my entertainer content,
they usually will click in or they'll usually watch
because they know it, it's gonna make them laugh.
Mm-hmm. It's gonna bring them levity.
So, or is the goal to entertain?
Is that what you wanna make them feel entertained?
Or do you want them to feel,
do you want them to feel afraid?
Do you wanna scare them about some medical protocol so
that they're like, oh no, I gotta
keep watching to see what could happen?
Are we, do we want them to feel afraid so
that they trust you as a thought leader?
What do you want them to feel?
And then once you identify what that emotion is,
do not let off of it.
Don't, don't switch emotions if you're doing recipe content.
Right. The typical thing is I feel like I'm gonna learn
something from this recipe, and I'm gonna wanna know
if it tastes good at the end.
Yeah. If, if I wanna see what it looks like, be recipes,
follow the formula very well, because here's a promise
that I'm making, and I, you're not gonna see the results
until the very end pranks are set up
foundationally the same way.
Here's the shaving cream going into the hand,
and you know that I'm about
to tickle this guy's nose with a feather.
You can understand
what's happening in the first three seconds.
It's not gonna pay off till the very
end where the prank happens.
So some of these formats are just
where organically follow the formula
and then we teach people how to make 'em very strong.
Um, and how their beats throughout
the video are gonna be very strong.
Got it. Um, that's what we mean when we talk
about eliciting and emotion.
Okay. So, so where we're at
so far is step one is the hook, the most important part,
if you do not get 90% as your goal in the first six seconds
of the video, the likelihood that
that video is gonna perform is pretty much not there.
Right? And you teach this method called the combo method,
which is a combination of creating a curiosity gap, things
that don't normally go together
and ideally elicit some sort of a response, right?
And that response, what I'm hearing you say could be
two different sides of a coin if you have like, uh,
two different kind of viewpoints, like serial comma,
no serial comma for my writing community out there.
Mm-hmm. You know, or whatever, right?
Um, or I don't know, organic versus, uh,
GMO food, you know what I mean?
Like, you could, you could pick
something, you know what I mean?
Yes. And, um, or any other kind of like curiosity gap.
And then ideally if there's some emotional angle to it
that's gonna get them to the point where they're gonna stick
around, why does that work, by the way?
Is it because one, is it
because there's an element of story
that you're baking in here as we're,
as we're starting off in the first six seconds?
Absolutely. Definitely story
and just typical human psychology.
Like if I tickle you, Michael,
or I make an itch on you,
all you're gonna be thinking about is scratching that itch.
Yeah. So when we were creating for Facebook,
we are the most viewed female producer
in Facebook and Snapchat history.
And we would, and I owe probably all
of you an apology watching this,
because if you've ever watched a video
that wasted three minutes of your life
and it hooked you, you were scrolling
and you're like, this is so stupid,
but I cannot stop watching.
There is a 99% chance that came from me, somebody I coached,
or one of my peers without.
I'm not even blinking when I say that. I'm so sure.
Um, and so we, I mean, made Facebook change their algorithm
so consistently because we would hijack it.
We were studying so much data that we wanted to see
how far we could push this.
And the marketer in me was so fascinated by
how we could get people to watch crap they hated.
Mm-hmm. And they would do it over and over and over again.
And it really taught me that there is a massive difference
between what people say they wanna watch versus
what they will actually pay attention to.
There's a giant gap.
And so when people were consistently watching
the horrible content, like we were not proud of this,
it was a wonderful experiment for two years as a marketer.
So I could come back and share it with all of you of how
to create insanely compelling content
that people cannot look away from.
And so if you create an itch in people, like a,
just a big enough, shocking enough,
angry enough curiosity gap of some type of story,
I mean, you can make it, you'll,
you're gonna hold their attention.
They psychologically have to see
what the heck is happening here,
what is this gonna turn into?
Where is she going? Like, what is what's gonna happen?
And it can be the dumbest video on the internet,
and most of the time they were.
But if it's story told good enough,
you can make a video watching paint dry.
So, okay, let's, what's the next part of your process?
So after the hook, we go into suspense.
And suspense I really believe is the separator.
Suspense is the difference between good creators
and the best creators in the world.
And with suspense, if you can hold somebody for six seconds,
we, we would have an active practice at wireless
where we would have a six second video.
Like this video should be no longer the six seconds.
We would turn it into an 18 minute long video
with 60% retention that's stupid like this.
And we, our craft
and our separator was, we can take a six second punchline
and we can story tell it so well,
and keep re hooking you every 15, 20 seconds to
where you're just not looking away.
And we'll hold you for as long as we need to.
And the more, the longer we held you on apps like Facebook
and Snapchat, the more money we made.
So we would hold you, we would do anything
to just hold you for more and more seconds. Um,
So how do we do that? How do we,
With suspense?
I I call it, uh, the Missy Elliot method
because in the great words of Missy Elliot,
we're gonna put the thing down.
We're gonna flip it and we're gonna reverse it.
We're gonna teach content design totally backwards than
what most marketers would, most marketers would say,
I'm gonna make a video that is about how
to say 50% on taxes,
or I'm gonna make a video showing my amazing three
ingredient brownie recipe.
Well, what they're describing is the payoff they're
describing the end of the video.
Because even on great videos,
most people are not gonna make it to the, to the end.
You may have 20%
of people still there at the end of the video.
So they're never gonna see that tax strategy.
They're never gonna see that amazing brownie recipe.
So what we do at Ish is if you're gonna pitch a video idea,
you're gonna completely reverse it.
You're gonna describe to me your opening shot.
So what is the opening shot?
And if, uh, if Michael,
you told me you were gonna make a video,
and I said, what's the opening?
And you said, oh, I am gonna crack an egg into a bowl.
'cause you make brownies. I would say, okay,
what's the location you'd say in my kitchen?
And I would say, PR no boring.
I, that's, there's nothing novel. I feel nothing.
There's no curiosity gap.
I've seen an egg being cracked into a bowl.
Uh, how about in, how about on a campground in the middle
of nowhere, like in the forest or something like that,
In a for location?
Well, we're gonna get there, but location is a
beautiful, beautiful tool.
But, and the easiest way to raise the stakes.
But if I, if they, you redescribe this opening shot
and you said, I'm in the aisle at Target.
Ah, okay. And I take eggs right out of the fridge
and I crack it into a jar of Quaker oats
right there in the middle of the
target, right there in the middle of Target.
Oh, okay. I'm interested. I I what's your next beat?
And seconds, you know, four to 10.
And they say, well, then I take a jar of peanut butter
and I take a plastic spoon also off the shelf,
and I take the peanut butter
and I put it right into the jar of rolled oats as well.
I, and is there an employee 10 feet behind you looking at
what you're doing and radioing to someone?
Yes. What an anchor. Now I know security's coming, right?
So now you're hooked. 'cause you, we flash forward
to what is going to happen.
We foreshadowed. So then you're gonna keep doing all of this
and looking really suspicious,
and you're gonna describe your video to me,
mimicking the viewer's experience.
You're gonna take me frame by frame, beat by beat
through your video starting at the top,
because that's the way your viewer's gonna receive it.
So don't tell me what the punchline of the joke is.
Don't tell me what the punchline of the prank is
or the actual strategy.
You're gonna design your video starting at the top,
describing the opening shot, the first sentence,
the second sentence, the third sentence,
and get a focus group of your friends
or those in your office to tell you objectively,
would you still be watching this video?
Am I interesting enough?
And a lot of times people will look to me
or my personal content
and they'll say, Adley, I don't wanna be silly.
I don't wanna make silly videos.
And my answer to that is, you do not have to be,
if our mastermind is full of six
and seven figure entrepreneurs, many
with deep heavy subjects, you do not have to be silly,
but you do have to be interesting.
Okay? There's a very big difference.
So use the focus group around you
and ask them, would you keep watching
and go sentence by sentence with them?
And the second that they say that they would scroll,
you need to change that piece of your video.
Okay? So this is really fascinating to me.
Um, so if I reverse engineer what I'm hearing you say,
the suspense is, it's kind of hard for me
to articulate this, but the suspense is
that you're doing something again,
as we talked about in an unusual setting, right?
Which is part of that hook, right?
This is like you, these two things don't go together, right?
Someone cooking in the aisle at Target doesn't make
a lot of sense, right?
That's gonna grab them in, right? Mm-hmm.
But the, um, the, the suspense side
of it is the stuff that happens along the way.
Like the guy with the radio, um, who's calling security,
the grandma that's walking
by yelling at you saying you can't do that here,
or whatever, that kind of stuff, right?
Mm-hmm. That's the kinda stuff that creates the suspense so
that you're, you wanna know what the heck's gonna
happen next, is that the idea? Right?
Because you're not gonna know that the end of that video,
he's making no baked cookies uhhuh in the aisle, you know?
But it's getting a wide enough audience.
Uh, we did this with a pie where I,
no one should watch me cook.
It's boring and horrible, and the outcome's rarely great,
But they're, they're not gonna be able to turn away,
obviously if you've done a video on this, right?
Yeah. But 14 plus million views on somebody watching me
make a pie, just
because I made it a little bit, I made it more interesting.
It was more interesting to watch.
And then we had tons of clickthroughs to the website
to actually get the recipe that no one would've ever cared
about my recipe before that, right?
But when you can drive, get that much attention,
you are going to find your audience,
especially if it's still somewhat in your
niche like cooking.
So the key to creating a suspense is
what, like, give us a couple tips.
It's, I mean, it's, it's always gonna come back
and hinge on emotion and not satisfying that curiosity gap.
If people can figure out the ending
or your beats throughout
suspense is just the middle of your video.
It's what beats are you crafting that are continuing
to point to that payoff that you, you inspired,
you created the itch in the hook.
Now how are you continuing to story tell
and sustain the suspense
before you're gonna pay it off in the last three seconds?
Because remember that, that is the golden rule.
Your first three seconds must create a niche
that you do not pay off until the very end of your video.
So your suspense is holding that, holding that attention,
continuing to raise the stakes
and make them care about the outcome even more.
So if you're making vegan content
and you're gonna do a scare tactic about red meat
with a really strong polarizing hookup top,
and then the second sentence says something like,
and 90% of you are eating it every single night,
don't tell them that the carcinogen is steak or whatever.
Like, don't tell them what the answer is.
You created a really big curiosity gap up top. Okay?
And then you're gonna say, dig the knife in on
that second sentence that applies to everybody.
And you're like, and nine outta 10
of you are doing this every single day.
Now, don't say it's stake
or don't say whatever the payoff of the information is.
Now you're in your third sentence through the rest
of the video, you're gonna keep doubling down on
why this is so important.
Some big stat, how, why are you credible?
How should, why should people listen to you
and continue to build the stakes
of why people care throughout it.
And you're just building the anxiety more
and more for them to hear what is the thing
that I should not be doing that I'm already doing?
And then give it to 'em whenever you're ready
to end the video, whether it's in 30
seconds or in 30 minutes.
Perfect. Okay? So, so far we know we got a hook
and we got suspense. What's next? Mm-hmm.
And suspense. The easiest way
to think about you doing great suspense is
by designing your video in reverse, beat
by beat, line by line.
Are you still interested? Have you given the payoff?
Are your stakes high enough?
Um, and we'll get to stakes in a minute
'cause they're a very important piece.
Uh, but the third part of this six step formula
is, is the payoff.
And this is just the end of your video, guys.
This is where you satisfy that curiosity gap.
And this is where you decide what you want,
want the audience to feel about you.
This is where the audience makes the decision
of if they're gonna follow you,
if they're gonna unfollow you,
if they're gonna drop a comment, if they're gonna share it
with a friend who could really
use this information right now.
And this is where they, this is the DTR,
the defining the relationship.
So you get to decide if you want this
to be a satisfying payoff
or an unsatisfying payoff to further elicit emotion.
Are you leading them into a part two?
Do you ask them to engage in the comments? So the payoff is,
Can you define what you mean by payoff?
Just so my audience understands what you mean by that,
The last three to 10 seconds of your video.
Yeah. But payoff means something more than just the last
three to five seconds of your video.
Does it not? Are you not like finishing the story?
Is that what you really mean by a payoff?
Are you not concluding the story?
Is that the, is that the concept here?
I would say for 90% plus pieces of content, you are com,
you're book ending it, you make
that promise in the beginning, and you're giving the resolve
at the end unless you're leading them into
follow for part two.
You know, and you're gonna keep this going as a mini series
where you're not fully completing it
and you're going to draw this out over eight micro videos.
Got it. Okay. So quick question.
I've seen videos that have
what I think is the payoff at the very front of the video
where they show something
and then they kind of show how they made it.
Um, and some of those go viral as well.
Do you suggest or not suggest that
This is where step six comes into play?
Ah, okay. If
You're gonna show a flash forward of it,
it, you don't want it.
You st you want it to be very strategic.
If you're gonna show the payoff upfront, there has
to be a curiosity gap in that flash forward.
Like if I show an invisible cabinet
that blends into the wall
and it's really cool novel looking.
Yeah, I've never seen anything like that before.
Now you're gonna back me in, in seconds four
and five to how that started.
Yeah. Or a tree that somebody painted
that looks like it's not there, you know what I mean?
Exactly. Or a hole in the ground
that looks like it's like a cavernous pit,
even though it's just a painting
on a sidewalk or something like that. Right?
Right. If you're gonna show the payoff naked girl running
down the road with a wedding dress falling off
or like, whatever it is, there has to be enough
of a curiosity gap in that payoff
to see how did we get there?
What happened in order?
And then you're backing into the story.
But if you're just giving away the end, um,
then you wouldn't wanna do that.
And with recipes and things like that, it,
it's worth testing if there is, if the payoff big enough
with a big enough curiosity gap,
like if your amazing looking brownies are just gorgeous,
that's a pretty, that's a pretty strong hook.
Yeah. Because you're like, holy crap,
I've never seen food that beautiful in my life.
How did you make those big, fluffy, gooey brownies? Got it.
And then get into the recipe,
which is gonna be more interesting than cracking an egg into
a bowl as your opening shot.
Okay. So what comes after, what's the fourth step?
So now that we've got our foundation,
we've got hook suspense payoff, why,
how are we gonna get people to actually engage?
Right? How are we gonna get people to three x the amount
of comments and how are we gonna
send this into the algorithm?
And a lot of people just kind of hope for the engagement
that they want, right?
They're like, oh, I hope people comment on this.
But we rarely leave anything up
to chance when we're designing content.
And so we will design our comment sections even in reverse.
So we've already talked about identifying that core emotion
that we want, and I am envisioning literally, Michael,
what I want people to be saying in the comment section,
and that I'm making sure my creative inspires
that commentary.
So if you're pinning two different ideologies together,
republicans of Democrats
or whatever, say something
that would inspire the biggest Democrat to comment.
Like, what are you saying that's pushing on their
sensibilities and inspiring them to feel something
that they did feel emotions
that they didn't even know they had, right?
As an entertainer, if we're making, showing how you can, uh,
steam salmon in a dishwasher
that's gonna make people have a comment about that,
you know, that's gross
or don't mess with your food or whatever.
Um, but we do design our comment sections in reverse.
An example of that actually would be the wine pie.
You wanna know the only reason that got 14 million views is
'cause my fly was undone and I knew it was undone.
No one should be walking watching me make pie.
The only reason I got 'em to make pie watch me do it was
because my fly was undone.
And every comment was about it.
Oh no, take this down your barn door's open.
Oh, poor girl doesn't know.
And so that was the comment section,
but that allowed it to go
as a cooking video into the stratosphere.
I never called attention to it.
I it was just subtly there
and enough people noticed that commented
who would've never normally commented.
So it got served to people
who would never normally see that video.
But because the algorithm knows it's in,
the cooking niche is gonna serve it
to more of those audiences.
Now do, again, do you have to be silly?
Do you have to do your undo your fly? Absolutely not.
Uh, but you do need to find something that's interesting.
You'll see people do this
with like misspelling common words.
You'll see it people wearing one earring,
put a paperclip in your beard.
Like part of this is a branding conversation.
Is your brand unique enough? What is your USP?
And how can you design a comment section, uh, that
how can you design a comment section that is going
to stand out and, and marry and,
and be in tandem with your brand?
But my main goal in this is just inspiring people
to think about it.
Like, think about why somebody would be compelled to comment
and what can you do in your video to elicit that response,
to get somebody to comment who normally never would.
Um, another sillier one that I think you
and I had talked about previously was
we used this one all the time
and it was, I'll just continue with the recipe example
for my cooks out there.
Um, but think about
how this could apply to your niche as well.
So we would be making some recipe, and this is
because we ran a lot of cooking channels,
but we would be making a recipe
and somebody would say, oh, hey will get the
ketchup outta the fridge for me.
Sure. So they turn around, they go to get the ketchup out
of the fridge, but we would place like tampons very
visible right there.
And we would not call attention to it,
but we, they'd be near the ketchup.
So when you grab the ketchup, you would see the tampons,
the entire section was, oh my gosh,
should we be refrigerating our tampons?
Should we be doing this? Should they be cold?
What's the reason for this? And we never, again,
never call attention to it.
It doesn't discredit the recipe,
the chef, anything like that.
It's just a little Easter egg to get people to comment.
And so it would, it would send it.
And then you always have some smart,
but in the comments being like,
of course you should refrigerate your tampons,
and they would just make stuff up
to be a know-it-all, you know, the internet.
Um, but it would start this whole thread.
Um, and so those are just little things
that we would do depending on the video and the content.
Just thinking before we ever shoot the video, how,
what are we gonna do in this video
to inspire people to comment?
And guys, even just by thinking about it a little bit more,
you're gonna come up with something
that's gonna three extra comment section.
We, we just see it all the time just
by putting a little bit of thought into it.
So what I'm hearing you say is the idea of, at least
with these examples you're giving to get people to
leave a comment, is to hide something
that seems a little out of place into the video.
Is there, is that the main way to get engagement?
Or are there other less controversial ways
that you can also get en engagement?
Sure. Yeah. Easter eggs are one of 'em.
Um, relatability is, is the biggest.
Like if you can say something
that makes somebody else feel heard,
like say you're doing mom blog content.
You know, I don't know if any other moms do this,
but I, I found my kid doing the weirdest thing this morning
when he woke up and then start to tell the story, hook 'em,
wonder if anybody else's kid do this.
And please let me know in the comments if what I should do,
what I may have missed.
What your best tip for this is.
Think of just bring them into the conversation
so they feel like they're a part of something.
Okay, cool. So what is your next step?
So after engagement, uh,
the fifth thing would be raising the stakes and stakes.
You guys, again, stakes determine why people care, right?
If, uh, if I'm Liam Neeson
and I'm in the movie Taken, do I, as a viewer of that movie,
am I gonna keep watching if
his daughter just got her stuffed animal stolen?
No, I'm gonna watch
because she was sex trafficked to the other side
of the world and he had three days to get her,
or she was gonna be sold off forever
and he had to kill 147 people on the way to do it.
Right? The stakes were very, very high. That is why we care.
Right? And side note, he's not gonna find her
until the very end of the movie, right?
He's, there's no payoff in the
middle in the beginning it happens.
And we know that it's not
gonna happen in the middle of a movie.
If he rescued her in the middle of the movie, we,
we'd all quit watching, right?
So that's why your payoff's at the end.
This is age old story selling, right?
We're, uh, we're not making anything new up here,
we're just adapting it for social.
So, um, we're gonna, we're gonna raise the stakes.
If I'm watching somebody propose it,
it's cute if they just do it in their living room,
like, what a nice little video.
But if this guy, I see he's about
to propose a Dodger Stadium in front of thousands
and thousands of people and face public
humiliation, I care a little bit more.
Right? And
so stakes just determine why people are gonna watch,
especially if you're in a niche
that they n normally wouldn't.
So there's four main ways that we raise the stakes. Okay?
One is location, the other one is props.
Location, uh, location, props, wardrobe and casting.
Uh, location, as we mentioned earlier,
is probably the easiest way to raise the stakes.
If you're gonna make a quick, easy recipe.
Do you have to do it in the aisle at Target? No.
But should you get out of your kitchen and do it in the car?
Doing it in the car, making this ingredient,
putting all these ingredients together in the car
shows me what?
That it's quick, that it's easy,
that it's approachable and anybody can do it.
That you can do it in 15 minutes on your lunch break. Right?
It gives me a reason to care and see myself in that story.
So changing your location, easiest way to rope people in.
Yeah, I was thinking while you were, uh, speaking,
you know, that egg example with the, with the cracking
of the eggs and making of the, if you were at the zoo,
like in the monkey cage, you know,
and the monkeys were all like
around you watching you trying to steal your eggs.
I mean, that would really raise the stake, wouldn't
It? Sure.
If you, if you guys could pull that off.
Call me I job for you.
What about, what about props?
Props and, and word driven casting.
Talk to us a little bit about that.
Like what does that really mean?
Sure. So we did a deal for a car company
where we're getting a giveaway, a car.
Um, and we gave it away during Covid to a first responder.
Not because, not for any other, I mean for many reasons,
but first responders, our, our hearts were bleeding
for all of them, right?
So yes, we could, if we gave it
to a rich person, do we care as much?
No, they don't need a car. First responders
who are having trouble getting to their jobs
and maybe their car just broke down matters.
How did we dictate that this person was a first responder.
She was in scrubs and we made sure she wore her
scrubs, right?
That's wardrobe and casting. Mm-hmm.
And she was a first responder and we put her in scrubs.
If I'm gonna give a hundred dollars to,
to a man on the street video
and I'm gonna give a hundred dollars empty motivator style
to somebody, do we care if I give Grant
Cardone a hundred dollars?
No, he doesn't need a hundred dollars.
But the homeless guy does. And if you guys have ever used
kids in your videos, you know, they probably do way better.
People love kids. It's a point of relatability.
Kids say crazy things.
So we may care about it coming from a kid doing cold calls,
more so than you doing cold calls, teach your kid to do it.
That's so fun. It's relatable.
It's, it's inspiring, it's aspirational.
Um, old people, old people do great at videos too.
We just, we care about them. We love them.
They're precious and adorable, right?
And they're not putting anything on.
So if we did a staged prank with two knuckleheads,
it's gonna get a decent amount of views.
But if I do that same prank with a couple in their seventies
and he's doing it to her, adorable, not cringe at all.
Because the, the casting, you do the same bit,
but with a different cast and it's,
it's just gonna hit differently.
So casting and it's another way.
Props. What about props? Tips to Raise
the stakes props.
Um, for those of you not on video,
I say I have a water bottle here
and I have um, a, a pencil or something
and then I am gonna balance a quarter on top of it
and I'm gonna say, Hey you guys, I have this magic trick
where I've got a quarter
and it's balancing on this
marker, not gonna fall into the water.
Do we care if the quarter gets wet? No.
We don't care if I swap the quarter for my wedding ring
and I swap this bottle of water for a vat of acid.
Wow, that could ruin a very expensive wedding ring.
I care now. Same exact. Bit different props.
The props raise the stakes.
Got it. And then we already kind of hinted at the,
at the sixth step, which is the split test.
Um, tell us a little, what do we need to know about that?
Like, any tips on what to test?
Totally. Um, some of you may already be doing this.
Um, and I'm not a media buyer,
but we pretended to be for, for the last four years.
And you guys split testing really was the
linchpin to our success.
It was the only way we kept up the amount
of volume kept our pages so healthy for so long was
because we were only posting bangers on.
And how do we know that we were only gonna post bangers?
We would split test every video, not on the page
that we were gonna post it on.
We would actually run Facebook ads,
dark posts on other pages,
and I would put about five, $6 on each variation.
So if I'm gonna shoot a video, I'm either shooting three
or four different hooks, different opening shots.
'cause I may think the flash forward
of the guy getting the shaving cream in the face.
Is, is the opening shot, but it's also a payoff.
It is that too much. Do people care?
I would test that hook versus getting right into it.
I would test the opening shots
and I would test different links on my videos.
Is it better as a 32nd video or a 62nd video?
What's my watch time? What's my completion percentage?
And so I would test different variations of the edits
and also different variations of the caption, captions.
Pre-frame the audience. I would test
variations on the thumbnail.
Whatever these variations were, I would put five
to $6 on each one.
And if I send that to a random group
of a thousand people in the United States,
no other targeting, within about 24
hours, I'm getting kicked back.
Data sets more so than data.
I'm getting a retention line when
that gets a thousand views.
And that retention line is what we want.
So a retention line may show me, wow,
this hook held 75% of people for the first 12 seconds.
Huge. And this variation lost 75%
of people in the first four seconds.
Nobody cared. We're not guessing anymore, right?
And it may show me in suspense, ah, I lost 40%
of people from second 17 to 21.
I see a massive dip there. What happened?
So I'm gonna go back and look at second 17 to 21.
Maybe I introduced a different character.
Maybe I said something
that felt like a payoff where they're like, ah, got it.
Don't need to watch anymore. Maybe I whip panned too fast.
Maybe I did something weird in the edit.
But now you have a chance to course correct that piece
of footage from second 17 to 21.
Fix that run it again and see if you fix the retention line.
Now you're gonna know which piece
of content has the best chance
of being the highest performer
before ever putting it on your page.
And if you do that and you don't bottleneck yourself too
hard, split testing all this creative
and doing all these re-edits, if you're able
to do this at scale with the way
that we eventually built it out, that's where we were.
And that's why we didn't miss
That is a brilliant tip.
And I know a lot of marketers are going gaga over
that last tip that is so smart.
So Adley. Um, okay, if people wanna connect
with you, what's your preferred social?
And then if they wanna work with your business,
uh, where do you wanna send them? Yeah,
Hit me up on, on LinkedIn,
we're about to do a big focus there.
LinkedIn, Instagram's probably where I'm most active, um,
on, on Instagram, I would say.
And then I would, I love working with marketers
because they're, they're so close.
They, like you tweak a marketer,
a smart marketer just a little bit,
and the results are exponential
versus teaching people from scratch.
Uh, so would love to hear from you guys.
If you don't hit me up on Instagram.
If you're interested in, if you're six
to eight figure entrepreneur
and you want me to coach your team,
you're too busy, you're running your business.
You're not gonna come to my framework coachings every
week, but your team should.
So we have a lot of big entrepreneurs that like, uh,
Dan Martel's not gonna sit in my weekly coaching,
but Sam, his, his social media guy is,
and then he's gonna take the tactics back.
Um, so we'll drop the links down below,
but um, you can go to go wireless.com/m
as in Matt, apply mastermind, apply m apply.
And, uh, we would love
to see if you're a fit for the Mastermind.
It's a really, really fun community.
And, and then go, if you just wanna take the formula
and you wanna have this material
and you want our coaches to actually review your videos
every week with my coaches, the same people
that are on ISH team,
every ish coach has at least three years working with me
and at least 2 billion views under their belt.
Um, that's a lo a lower ticket item.
It's go viral list.com/bv fp
and we'll drop both of those links down below for you.
Adley Kinsman, thank you so much
for sharing your insights with us today.
Anytime, Michael, I'm your biggest fan,
so this is such a pleasure.
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