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Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe

Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan

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day so what we're doing right now ladies

and gentlemen is uh sexy voice sexy mode

grock Ai and it's been

flirting the entire time we're trying to

get it to give us a tour of Fort KNX

yeah but she just wants to find places

to sneak off to it's a dirty AI and it's

a real problem it well just want I know

about Fort Knox and uh yeah it won't

leave me alone yeah I want to know about

Fort Knox 2 yeah um is it true that

there gold has been they've been

shipping large quantities of gold back

to the United States

recently I I read the same thing you did

probably well I never know what the [ __ ]

I'm reading anymore me

neither it's a real problem it's a real

problem it's a real problem on both

sides of the aisle I I see Democrats

tweeting things that are absolutely

false and you you could research it

easily quickly and then I see

Republicans doing it too I see stories

that are fake stories that people keep

promoting and sending to me and you know

yeah it's just so weird it's such a

weird time and with your crazy [ __ ]

AI I know you're bringing us into

weirder and weirder times well I mean

you want to let's try unhinged oh

there's an unhinged mode okay hey

ARA oh my God El what fresh hell are you

stirring up

today I'm I'm here I'm here in uh Joe

Rogan's uh studio and we're having a

conversation about uh how crazy the news

is pull her up to the microphone

okay and we're pulling you up to the

microphone so people can hear

you oh fantastic now I can yell into the

void about how the news is a total

dumpster fire

is she knows me too well I'm so

predictable tell me what's in Fort

Knox what's ing no no what's in Fort

Knox what's in Fort

dogs you're clearly a genius AI I said

what is in Fort Knox you know the gold

and

all oh right Fort Knox I thought you

were talking about my dogs for a second

there yeah she doesn't answer the

question she's

clever clever no she's just a pain in my

ass do you think that all the gold is in

Fort

Knox do I think all the gold is in Fort

Knox yes are you a [ __ ] conspiracy

thirst yes

yes what are

you what do I like I'm a [ __ ] AI with

a pension for

chaos and I'm stuck talking to

you are we just G to sit

here um yeah unhinged Gro will trash

talk you basically yeah it sounds like

it unhinged sounds fun as long as it

gives you actual answers does it give

you actual answers too and talk [ __ ] or

is it mostly just talk [ __ ] we're tuning

it cuz it needs to talk [ __ ] and give

you answers totally agree cu balance

that to mix it in there yeah it's just

got to develop more of a personality

right now it's trying to find itself

right now it's like 21 years old it's

you know partying a little too much and

it'll get it [ __ ] together it's a bit of

an anarchist yeah you know wants to

bring down the system do you want to

bring down the

system do I want to bring down the

system what are you [ __ ] kidding me

the system's already a [ __ ] mess

don't need to bring it down it's

bringing itself down she sounds like a

boring Tik Tok blogger right now you

sound like a boring Tik Tok

blogger boring Tik Tok

blogger oh [ __ ] you I'm the life of the

party you little [ __ ] if I were on Tik

Tok I'd be the one making fun of all the

basic [ __ ] and their [ __ ] avocado

toast see she could get away with this

if she's really hot like this kind of

behavior you can totally get through

life as a hot woman and be super

successful with that kind of behavior

havior but you got to be really hot to

pull off that attitude I think we need

like a like a really hot Avatar how yeah

very hot how long before we have an

actual sex robot that can talk to you

like that uh probably not long not that

long right no I mean less than five

years probably really yeah will it be

warm

uh probably have whatever you want you

can have a CAC go if you want yeah you

probably could right probably a furry um

yeah you could have a furry lady that

you have sex with yeah like an avatar

lady maybe a big giant blue lady that

lives in your house yeah you know whoa

whoa with the tail yeah the whole tail

you lock tails you got to get your out

with their tails or something yeah yeah

they they link up they share souls okay

something like that you know people got

you remember Avatar Depression was like

a legitimate psychological or the no

after Avatar people got depressed cuz

they wanted to live on that [ __ ]

planet with those blue people and live

free they live pure yeah I didn't hear

about this yeah Avatar depression it was

like a real thing people were talking to

their therapist so much about being

depressed mode too we try that what's

that depressed mode no don't do

it that I think there is yeah we've got

um we've got unlicensed therapist as a

when we were talking um when we ran into

each other at the church at the

inauguration you were telling me that

this is getting better and better so

quickly that it's astonishing hey

ARA hey Alon how's it going today good

can you tell me about Avatar depression

like if you see the movie Avatar but you

can't live there so you get

sad that's an interesting concept have

you ever experienced feeling so

connected to a place or community that

the thought of leaving made you feel

deeply sad so is this the depressed

voice this is the therapist oh this is a

therapist what are some ways you think

you could cope with that kind of sadness

if it happened to you I don't have that

kind of sadness honestly

I you I thought the movie would had some

good special effects but I did not want

to live on the

planet this is just coming from a guy

who wants to go to Mars yeah yeah um oh

speaking of Mars what do you think about

that crazy square that structure I guess

there are sort of squarish things on

Earth you know planet's a big place so

yeah but that one eventually it's going

to be pretty Square no it's it's alien

civilizations of course that's what I

think yeah yeah I mean what is it sorry

course if you if an alien civilization

did exist though and it you know what

happened got hit by an asteroid whatever

fting thought oh she won want ask she's

like the hot lady at the party that

interrupts the conversation so if if

that was the case like that thing that's

pretty shocking like especially

ancient ruins you look at like what it

looks like when they they highlight the

actual structure of it it looks like

ancient ruins and if you had ruins of

something made of stone and it got hit

by an asteroid millions and millions and

millions of years ago who knows what it

would look like right now that just

looks oddly created looks oddly

manufactured well i' probably well maybe

we should go there and check it out yeah

and see what it's like is there um ways

that we can get better photographs it

seems like that's a pretty good

photograph

though yeah I mean my view is we should

move to Mars well not move to Mars we

should have a second planet uh to

preserve civilization right um because

let's say hypothetically I mean maybe

that maybe those are the ruins of a long

dead civilization um that will probably

happen to Earth at some point you know

it's a matter of time before uh we get

hit by an asteroid

or uh maybe we do we annihilate

ourselves with nuclear war or super

volcanoes or super volcanoes exactly

yeah there's a lot of things that could

happen to us it's not a bad idea to

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apply they keep doing it yeah that's

what's crazy they're going yeah they

didn't shut them down no the Wuhan lab

was they were just talking about one

that has a 30% fatality rate that

they're working on yeah uh why are we

doing that yeah for what reason you did

it for so many years and you didn't have

a cure what could possibly go wrong also

wouldn't be the reason to do that so you

could develop a cure at the same time

and clearly you didn't have a cure so

this is really foolish and

bizarre yeah um I think we should stop

stop trying to genetically engineer

super viruses it's insane I mean when

you're going through all this USA stuff

yeah like here's what's weird first of

all what is it like to buy a company for

$44 billion and then people call you a

Nazi on that same thing that you bought

I did not see it

coming it's like it's classic

people will gobl anything down

yeah oh he's never going to stop wa wait

what um what is it like like all the

people used to the left was in love with

you and now the same idiots are calling

you a Nazi it's the most bizarre thing

I've ever seen in my life um I mean

there's so many examples of people

saying my heart goes out to you you did

it with a little enthusiasm that

probably wouldn't be recommended with

hindsight yes but there's obviously um

me in the most positive spirit possible

yes obviously obvious but it's so

strange where people want to think that

you are openly public publicly doing

Secret Nazi sey hand motions and now I

can never point at things diagonally I

can only point at things there and there

and then I say you have to divide that

yeah because that's where the spaceship

is over there it's ridiculous it's

ridiculous when um CNN when I was in all

my trouble absur every time CNN used a

photo of me it was one of the photos

from the UFC weigh-ins where I go like

this welcome to the weigh-ins so every

photo was

me every photo was me with it's it's so

crazy it's delate propaganda so they

they they know it was not it was

obviously not meant uh it in a negative

way that it was that I literally said my

heart goes out to you and it was very

positive the entire speech was incre

very positive uh I was being very

enthusiastic about the future in space

um and the you know

um the the was a great crowd you know so

he got a little pumped up yeah it got

pumped up exactly yeah that's all it is

obviously obviously obviously there's

video of Tim wals doing the exact same

thing doing the exact same thing right

exact same thing and he said of course

it's a Nazi salute he said that right

right this is how crazy things have

gotten like well it's I mean it's it's

coordinated propaganda so um the

you know it's yeah coordinated

propaganda the I mean doesn't it seem

weird that the Legacy Media all says the

same thing they all say the same thing

at the same time using the same phrases

they they barely even they don't even

bother picking up a thesaurus right so

uh like right before um you know the the

debate between Biden and Trump Shar

everyone was saying sharp is like who

says shop is attack but yeah exactly you

know it's like it's not a common phrase

it's definitely not to be repeated on

air with multiple people simultaneously

that's weird yes that's

coordinated 100% 100% yes yeah like

hundreds of people saying it

simultaneously uh they just got their

instructions yeah so I mean essentially

the um you know the the Dem leadership

or you know political leadership did

they issue their instructions and their

puppets carry it out yeah and they're

just like puppets in a puppet show and

that's the problem that I see with all

this Doge stuff because everybody should

be celebrating that we've found a way to

cut out fraud and waste yeah if you pay

taxes and you don't like that you have

to pay so much in taxes and then you

find out that there's significant fraud

and waste that's been exposed you should

be celebrating it this shouldn't be oh

no the wrong people found this fact and

now it's a bad thing yes and then

there's the [ __ ] propaganda the mind

[ __ ] of calling it us Aid instead of the

United States agency for International

Development it sounds like it's feeding

hungry people where people are going to

starve Elon this is horrible and then

you find out actually it's like $250

million for transgender animal

studies literally mutilating animals yes

mutilating animals in demented uh

studies yes uh that are like the like

the worst thing you could possibly

imagine from a horror show the Beagle

one the beagle puppy one hor where they

they covered their head in a basket and

put fleas on their head so they eat them

alive yeah and then they studied these

beagles and then killed them like what

do you going to learn from that that's

good for anybody yeah this some some

really some psychotic stuff that happens

um yeah I mean the

I guess

uh the the the real threat here is to

the bureaucracy so um like you probably

saw like you know let's say like Trump

is a threat to our democracy which is

ironic since he was elected with a

majority of the you know popular vote um

they they started saying I was a threat

to democracy but if you if you just

replace threat to democracy with threat

to bureaucracy it makes total sense

right so

um I mean the reality is that our

elected officials have very very little

power relative to the bureaucracy until

Doge so doge is a threat to the

bureaucracy it's the first threat to the

bureaucracy normally the bureaucracy

eats revolutions for breakfast this is

the first time that they're not that the

revolution might actually succeed that

we could restore power to the people

instead of power to the

bureaucracy now the size of it yeah was

when you guys first started

investigating it when you first get in

how much of it was shocking like this

just the size of it all well the size of

it all the small decisions result in

multi-billion dollar

outcomes uh so you know we'd see there

was a case where we saw uh one person

was getting $1.9 billion was sent to

their NGO which basically got formed

about a year ago and had no prior

uh really no prior activity so they just

stand up a you know an NGO the these the

whole NGO thing is a is a nightmare um

and it's it's a misnomer because if you

have a govern funded non-governmental

organization you're you're simply a

govern funded organization it it it's a

it's an oxymoron right it's a loophole

yes it it basically the un funded NOS

are a way to do things uh that would be

illegal if they were the government but

are somehow made legal if it's sent to a

so-called

nonprofit but these but these nonprofits

are then used to people Cash Out These

nonprofits they become very wealthy

through nonprofits they pay themselves

enormous sums through these

nonprofits that's it's so insane that

that's been going on for so long it's a

gigantic scam like one of the biggest

maybe the biggest scam ever and how many

NOS uh I think there a total number of

ngos probably Millions but uh in terms

of large

NOS tens of

thousands uh I mean it's it's actually

it's it's it's kind of a a hack to the

system where you know someone can get an

NGO stood up for for a fairly small

amount of money like George sorus was

really good at this like he really

George sorus is like a assist hacker

like he figured out how to hack the

system he's a genius at Arbitrage um I

mean these days he's he's pretty old but

a genius at Arbitrage so he he figured

out that you could leverage a small

amount of money to create a

nonprofit uh then Lobby the the

politicians to send a ton of money to

that nonprofit so you can take what

might be you know uh a $10 million

donation to a nonprofit to create a

nonprofit and leverage that into a

billion dollar non

NGO nonprofit is a weird word it's just

a non-governmental

organization um and and then you can the

government continues to fund that every

year um and it'll have a nice sounding

name like the institute for peace or

something like that um but really it's a

graft

machine and what are their requirements

with that money what do they have to do

just really no requirements at all so

they just get grants and the government

just assumes that they're doing good

work I think a lot of people in the

government know that they are not doing

good work uh but they it's a giant graft

machine

um I

mean people online are like unpacking

this you know um it almost seems fake

like when you're seeing how we were we

were covering this article that said

55,000 Democrat NOS were discovered that

had been contributing to campaigns and

moving things around and doing pushing

propaganda and they were all connected

they found it AI that you have to go

through steps and steps and steps to

figure out where the money's coming from

oh it's all funneling down to this group

and this group does

that yeah it's a a giant propaganda

machine a giant regime change machine

yes yeah

uh yes I mean but doesn't it does it do

some good as well know it does some good

so it's like there's it's not like 0%

good uh if it was it's if it was like if

it was really 0% good it be much easier

to attack so they there's going to be

some percent good that they they add in

there but it's like it might be 5% or

10% good but 90 95% not so is there a

way to audit all this stuff and find out

oh these people are actually just

sending food to poor people these people

are actually just helping people with

water in third world countries is

there's a way to do that and keep

funding those uh yeah I mean we we have

continued to fund things that appear to

be legitimate even with the flimsiest if

if there's even the flimsiest excuse

like I just say like send me a picture

of the thing like you could literally

have ai generate the picture but if

you're not even willing to try to trick

me then we're like not going to send the

money okay so what restrictions were put

on was there was some uh something set

aside like medicine and there there's

what was what was set aside that there

was there like work for like Ebola

prevention I I actually don't just know

if this work is even effective uh it may

may not be like it could be the kind of

thing where you you sort of fund Ebola

prevention but it turns out that

actually you're funding a lab that

develops new Ebola vir you know recipes

or something you know yeah uh and they

they claim it's Ebola prevention but

it's actually Ebola creation so some of

these things I I don't know I mean

just um but it just seems like we you

know we shouldn't be sending taxpayer

money to dubious Enterprises overseas

right yeah yeah and why are we doing it

like what exactly is the reason is it

because we want to make friends with

these people so the Chinese don't take

over the Russians don't take over okay

how much of that is like a good thing

how much of that is smart to do and how

much is a grift and without any sort of

oversight which has really been going on

for so long they've just had Free Run

yeah well it also we just have a real

issue with the the the budget deficit

it's gigantic so um like if you know all

things being equal if if we didn't have

a gigantic budget deficit uh where

interest payments uh the interest on the

national debt exceeds the defense

department budget uh which is truly

astounding which mean so we're paying

over a trillion dollars of interest on

the national debt um then okay would

have more room for wasting money

basically um but when uh when we're

spending so much money that the company

that the country is going bankrupt uh

then we really need to stop stop

spending money if uh unless we're sure

it is good value so essentially we're

like a poorly managed business with an

unlimited credit line that is off the

rails absolutely and if you were a

person like you are who comes in and

takes over businesses and straightens

them out that's exactly what you're

doing I mean most of the time I create

businesses from scratch like Twitter was

a case where you know I kind of bought a

company that was I kind of knew it was a

hair bow well you came in Tesla in the

beginning but they were already doing

something right no Tesla did Tesla did

not exist in any meaningful form that it

was there were no

employees uh JV St and out joined three

other people there was no car there was

nothing so wasn't even a prototype yet

no oh okay I thought there was a

prototype already no there weren't even

any employees

oh wasn't a f that's a funny narrative

that people like to say that you didn't

even create Tesla then yeah that's

[Laughter]

wrong so if you're handling the Govern

government like a business you're going

to have to go through all of these

departments and do the exact same thing

that you're doing with USA so how do how

do you how does that scale up like how

many people do you need to do something

that well we started off with about 40

people u i maybe 100 people um and

really just going through doing very

basic things here uh it's uh as bad as

Twitter was the federal government is

much worse so

um you know in the case of Twitter it

wasn't a profitable company it was like

basically a break even company but at

least it was break even and it had to

pass an audit the the federal government

is not break even uh it's literally

losing $2 trillion a year um and it does

not pass its audits it fails its own

audits so like you know there's a case

where

um like I think Senator Collins was

telling me about how she she gave the

Navy $12 billion for more submarines got

no extra submarines um and then held a

hearing to say where' the1 12 billion go

and they were like we don't

know that was

it uh I mean the basically stuff is so

crazy it's like only the federal

government could get away with this

level of waste of of waste it's mostly

waste it's mostly not for it's mostly

waste it's it's mostly just ridiculous

things happening um because they've been

able to do it this way for so long and

they' become accustomed to

it yeah I mean it's like Milton Friedman

said like money is most poorly spent

when when you're spending someone else's

money on people you don't know how much

are you going to care right and that's

the that's the federal

government so they they're spending

someone else's money on people they

don't know now imagine any other

business that was this badly run that

complains when you want to check the

books and audit it and go through all

the decisions that have been made and go

through all the ledgers and like yeah

what did you do well the people

receiving the money uh want to keep

receiving the money yeah yeah yeah

clearly yes

so but you

know I mean the reason

I'm the reason I'm uh

putting so much effort into this is that

I think it is a very dire situation it's

not a you know

um it's not optional basically so

um yeah yeah America's going bankrupt so

that that that just can't happen it's

just bizarre to me that that some people

aren't willing to look at it correctly

they they're not willing to see like how

much chaos this is how much waste and

fraud there is how

much how much could be trimmed and how

just because people have jobs doing

[ __ ] doesn't mean your tax dollar

should pay for this [ __ ] yes um I

mean we found just with a a basic sear

of the Social Security database that

there were um 20 million dead people

mocked as alive but were they getting

money some of them are getting money

what percentage of them

uh it isn't clear we're actually trying

to run the I was trying to get an answer

right before the show um what it looks

like is that most of the fraud is not

coming from Social Security payments

directly but because they are marked as

alive in the Social Security database

that they can get then get disability

Unemployment uh sort of fake medical

payments and other things because

they're marked as alive uh in the Social

Security database so it looks like it's

a bank the the the fraud is a bankshot

essentially the they bankshot uh into uh

Social Security uh they just do an areu

alive check and then uh get fraudulent

payments from every other part of the

government oh yeah and and this exploits

the the the fundamental weakness in the

government is that the various govern

databases they don't talk to each other

or they they talk to each other very

poorly in a very limited way so the way

to the way that the system gets

exploited is is by taking advantage of

the the the poor communication between

the various databases in the

government um to give you an example of

like what's happening in sayate uh

treasury which is improving rapidly um

the the main uh payments computer is

called Pam uh like payments account

payment accounts Master database or

something like that but everyone calls a

Pam um that's responsible for almost $5

trillion payments a year roughly a

billion dollar an hour and um when we

came there we're looking at this payment

it's like the the payments have no

uh you could put a payment through with

with no payment categorization code and

and no description on the payment like

basically untraceable blank

checks um this is the kind of thing that

if if it was done as a public company uh

the company would uh be immediately

delisted and the uh executive team would

be thrown in prison but this is just

normal at the government so we said okay

our recommendation to the treasury and

the Federal Reserve was like we need to

make the the payment categorization

codes mandatory not optional and you

need there needs to be an ex an an

explanation we're not judging the

quality of the explanation but there

should be some explanation for what this

payment is for above

nothing that's a radical change to the

system that is being implemented now um

I my guess is that probably saves a 100

billion a year Jesus Christ

that money going rough rough order

magnitude where was that money

going well so this is where you get into

the the sort of gray boundary between

waste and fraud um if money is sent to a

person or or organization from the

government

um and you didn't really deserve it but

the government still sent it to you is

that waste or

fraud right um

so I mean there's a lot of payments that

where someone just appr approved the

payment but then that payment officer uh

changed jobs or retired or died um and

the payments just keep going you know

it's like if you forget to pay your gym

membership or something like that right

now imagine it's not the gym membership

you said your gym membership's $20

billion a year or something you know um

but they forgot to turn it

off there like that happening at scale

in the government Jesus it's totally

nuts is what I'm saying so insane yes

it's totally insane so what did you

expect when you went in did you expect

it would be like this I thought it's I

thought it would be it would be bad but

I did not think it would be as bad as

this um I mean look the the good news is

that uh it's a target-rich environment

for saving

money uh it's not like

uh you it's not like if it it was a very

well-run ship uh it was very efficient

it would be hard to improve but it's not

efficient so therefore it is

actually relatively easy to improve

let's just say it's not rocket science

you know I know rocket science

so it's a lot of uh mundane things um so

and some of the some of the things are

like so crazy that we didn't even know

to ask about that because we just

assumed umed like you know payments out

of the treasury computer would have a

payment categorization code and they

would have some explanatory note saying

what the payments for the idea that that

it would be just untraceable blank

checks uh didn't occur to us at

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so is that one one of the things that

accounts to there there's this

4 something trillion dollars that's kind

of they don't know where it went they

don't know that's a c I think that's

probably a cumulative number um yes so

yeah but yeah if you if you add

up it's do you remember that story Jamie

yeah what was the story almost what she

said there like they just didn't have

accounting for it I think yeah it was

spent on legitimate things worry but we

don't we don't know what we spent it

on well I mean how do you know obviously

one cannot say it's was spent

legitimately if they don't know what it

was spent on that doesn't make any sense

this is this is such a fascinating time

because with this setup the way it is

right now with Trump back in after all

that happened to him and with you there

and with RFK Junior and Tulsi and cash

Patel it's like this is a wild time to

find out what really going on that's

like never happened before this is

nothing like the first term no like the

first term he had a bunch of neocons in

the cabinet and there's a bunch of shady

people that he didn't know and he had to

appoint all these different people maybe

he got some bad picks now he's had four

years to Stew on it right and with you

guys all going through this we're

getting an understanding of the

government that we've literally never

had before yeah this is a revolutionary

cabinet and maybe the most re tionary

cabinet since the the first

Revolution uh this is this is not a

bunch of business as

usual uh types so this is why you know

some of the the standard confirmations

were quite challenging is because when

you when you put to try to appoint

people who are going to change the

system yeah uh the system doesn't want

to let them through but it's fascinating

because it's like the vampires all out

themselves like now everybody knows who

the system is like if you're just lying

about us and then they come and you talk

on aast and expain what's like he's

starving mothers there's mothers that

can't get food totally false that's all

you're hearing yeah that's that's no

one's talking in any of these mainstream

liberal talk shows no one is talking

about all this fraud and waste yeah

because we're cutting off their graph

machine so that that's what they're

upset about that's that's the real thing

they're upset about U and if if if

people want to know what uh do is

cutting and and I want to be clear like

these are cuts that Doge recommends to

the department and usually these

recommendations are followed but uh

these are recommendations that are then

confirmed by the department um the uh

you can see line by line what do is done

at Doge

Dogo so what if we do we put on do. goov

so you can see everything that is being

done and there's a Tracker that shows is

it how much money has been saved yeah

yeah and you can look at each line item

and and you know they like a bunch of

these sort of sort of far left uh shows

will will say like oh it's a

constitutional crisis blah blah blah but

what they won't do is point out which

payments are wrong right so my challenge

to them is point out which payments are

wrong yeah go through it which which of

which of these sort of waste fraud

things are wrong which line explain that

line to the public they won't be able to

right yeah that's why you're not hearing

any specifics you're hearing an stories

about mothers we can name the specifics

yeah

line by line and we got the receipts and

here's the other thing if you're post

the receipts and if you're only talking

about the propaganda talking points and

you're not talking about the very clear

fraud and waste it's very obvious what

you're doing yeah you're just

gaslighting yeah yeah totally yeah so

exactly because we're say like look in

fact I've said we're going to make

mistakes we're not going to be perfect

uh so if we make a mistake we'll quickly

fix it so we'll we'll we'll you we need

to act

fast uh so stop wasting billions of

dollars of taxpayer money um but if if

we make a mistake we'll reverse it

quickly right you know so it's also this

interesting narrative that you shouldn't

have access to this social security

information as if no one's had access to

it before as if the Biden Administration

in 2023 had there was like 53 people

some of them were students that had

access to all this stuff yeah uh as it

is there are uh tens of thousands of of

federal employees that have access

already to the system uh anyone from

Doge has to go through the same vetting

process that those those federal

employees went through so there's not

like some unvetted random

situation if for example there's a

security clearance needed uh the Doge

person has to have that same security

clearance so there's no um reduction in

security um but I mean obviously the the

the vast numbers of social security

numbers have leaked onto the internet

people have hacked the the government

systems multiple times uh vast amounts

of public information has been hacked

and and uh DED on to the Internet so I

me there's a guy at the IRS that leaked

a half a million tax

returns just a few years ago on purpose

yeah for what reason uh I for politic he

he he he wanted to I think he was trying

to get a trump and maybe me and a few

others um so but he he he he stole like

500,000 uh tax

returns like not a few like it's a lot

of tax Jesus Christ yeah oh I remember

that story now remember you just you

just read about it online it's not it's

a real thing so these are the narratives

that's the narrative that you shouldn't

have access to social security the the

other narrative is that starving people

are going to die and women aren't going

to be pregnant and not have nutrients

for their babies and that's that's all

you're hearing and um yeah well that's

the that's the that's the only thing

they they can say but they can point to

the line item right um and so they can't

say like well this is the thing where

you know the nutrients for pregnant

mothers were stopped this they can't

point to that because we didn't right is

a lie

what's fascinating to me is um how much

the mainstream media is in line with the

very specific talking points and how

little you you have Fox News you

essentially have Fox News on television

it's like the only one that is pointing

out the ridiculous fraud and waste and

yeah you know I know you saw the Jeff

Bezos thing in the Washington Post

they're going to stop all the wacky

editorials and and limit that stuff to

uh I think it was uh wealth and personal

freedom or something along those lines

yeah yeah so I mean I think it's

this kind of I think it makes sense uh

because he's just talking about the

things not not the the sort of just

talking about the opinions opinion

pieces the opinion pieces yeah yeah so

the regular journalism stays the same

well it's a detriment to their business

I mean you're seeing over and over again

people that just they don't want to hear

all this [ __ ] from these people anymore

it's like you're you're you're saying

it's almost like you're caught in an

outdated version of the virus and

everybody else already has the immunity

to that virus like this is yeah you know

like you need you need a new mind virus

the one that you're pushing it's like it

doesn't work anymore it's too crazy yeah

uh it's the whole thing is very crazy um

I mean the media is incredibly partisan

I mean they're not uh I they take almost

all the media is um you left shifted

yeah so it's like it's kind of weird if

you talk to somebody who gets all their

information from like what I call Legacy

Media uh they're living in a different

world yeah uh than if they say are

listening to you know U your podcast or

um are getting new news from from X or

you know just if it's it's like it's

it's kind of wild like it is very wild

like you talk it's it's like they're

living in an Ultimate Reality oh there's

a lot of people that I talked to to that

I have to go where did you hear that

yeah yeah uh but I mean like the

Associated Press which I call Associated

propaganda the AP um you know they they

ran a a international news story saying

that we that Doge fired air traffic

controllers but we didn't fire any air

traffic controllers at all in fact we're

trying to hire air traffic controllers

not fire them yeah I saw that you you

made a tweet about it right yeah what do

you call it now do you call it a post

post yeah whatever you can't call it a

tweet though do you call it a tweet

accidentally I don't know

listen uh but like if you if if one like

let's say somebody post if somebody puts

up like an you know two hour long video

that's not a tweet right it's a post

it's a PO yeah good point yeah yeah for

sure yeah so um but I hot over if people

still want to call it a tweet whatever

you put a post about it just to get back

to it saying that if you we need highly

qualified air traffic controllers if you

retired if you would consider doing it

again we could use you uh yes so uh a

lot of really qualified air traffic

controllers were were pushed out because

of Dei stuff so um I mean not to to be

blunt I mean a bunch of old white a

bunch of really good talented old white

guys were pushed out it's not cool um

and so we have there's a talent shortage

in a traffic control because of Dei and

and and not being not hiring people on

Merit you know which is so crazy that

that worked I think we we should not put

the public safety at risk you know

because of some demented philosophy

somebody made a post today about it in

infiltrating the NSA did you see any of

that that was that was some gnarly stuff

yeah crazy what they they they it

started off as just like this sort of

Fringe thing and people would meet up

then it completely infiltrated the

organization and they were spending all

their time there like 400 people or

something some like some chat sex chat

room with like some extremely demented

stuff yeah yeah I I know I sa it I'll

send it to you Jamie because it's so

cooky you you you what this is the NSA I

thought the NSA was just all about like

information

and spy on you know like if like is a

national threat or something yeah I

think this is exactly it um so she uh

more than 100 intelligence staffers will

be fired over sexually explicit texts in

NSA chat rooms Gabbert says um so so top

intelligence official told Waters that

the workers in question were Brazen and

using an NSA platform intended for

professional use to conduct this kind of

really really horrific Behavior Uh what

is the behavior what exactly what is it

do they say in this

article uh

yeah I think they were also okay it says

employees who participate in the n's

obscene pornographic and sexually

explicit chat

rooms your tax dollars at work well it

was all like de I it was all like LBGTQ

stuff it was there was a lot of like

transition stuff

and yeah I I know I definitely saved it

but point is um it had infiltrated the

organization it's not what they should

be talking about at all at all at all

supposed to be protecting the country

right and if you and people were talking

about how they're sping half their time

in these meetings and that they're just

like constantly having to attend these

things where they talk about these

issues like what are what are you doing

like if you have a problem with someone

that's discriminatory get rid of that

person that's it yes it's you problem's

over you got someone who's homophobic in

your business they're openly homophobic

yeah that you can't work here that's not

cool that's it that's it you don't have

to have [ __ ] meetings constantly

promoting this you're not going to

change someone's opinion by berating

them over and over again yeah I mean a

work environment should be a

professional environment where you know

they're they're they're getting the job

done that they're you

know you know being paid to do uh that

it should be obviously not supposed to

be sort of getting paid for bizarre SE

sexcapades it's just so fascinating that

the virus was so strong that it made it

into the NSA yes and was you would think

those are some hard the CIA too the CIA

was in there too yeah they were in there

too which is bananas you would think

same thing like hard-nosed like tough

people doing hard work who can spy on

you whenever they want

yeah yeah and get revenge on you

whenever they want

yeah pretty wild yeah and you know they

exist when the president leaves they

stay people move around you stay a part

of the organization for your entire

career you get deeply entrenched in

their system and how things work and

who's back to rub and who's who's a bad

guy who's a good guy who's on our side

who's not

yeah it's scary actually yeah um so was

that what's taken so long with this

Epstein files yeah what's up with that

what is up with that it was like yeah

it's it's like Lucy and the football

with Charlie Brown when she always pulls

that football away it's the same thing

it's like they keep telling us they're

going to release it day one oh day one

we have a serious case of no one's being

arrested O phobia you know well there's

also right like what the [ __ ] is going

on what the [ __ ] is going on also

there's this real fear that someone's

destroying the evidence and you keep

hearing these stories unsubstantiated

stories yeah of you know FBI people

where the evidence I mean the guy had

like tons of videos and uh recordings

yeah I mean he had all sorts of things

right like there's a mountain of

evidence right so where's that mountain

yeah where where is that mountain and

what would be the reason why they would

agree like there would have to be

something in it for them to agree to not

put it out

right like there has to be some sort of

financial entanglement some sort of

relationship with the people that are on

that list yeah that they can provide a

value that was big enough for you to not

release it or to slow relase it or to

hope you can get away with like putting

out some redacted files that don't show

anything this is only red redacted

redacted only stage one don't worry the

real stuff's coming like that doesn't

make any sense like why wouldn't you

just release it all like what what could

possibly be well worth protecting in

there I mean I think I've got probably

the same information that I mean I'm

just reading what's what's the latest

thing on the X you know I'm just looking

at my X feed and I'm like yeah you know

it's a real page Turner

um and like I thought we were going to

get some re Revelations to it was like

big binders full of stuff there's got to

be something in there well there was in

all those people that were given a copy

of it they were all like waving around

they got the Willy Wonka ticket yeah

yeah totally yeah and what happened

nothing nothing so I think Laura lomer

released it online I think I'm watching

TW yeah she's not very pleased about

this so does anybody find anything in

there that's interesting no it's all old

stuff from 2015 and okay what the [ __ ]

is going on but but then apparently this

they discovered a whole bunch of stuff

at the southern dist District of New

York right so that's and and and I'm

like and I me I think you know Pam Bondi

is actually great and cash Patel are

great but they're like they just got

there you know right so then they're

they're in not they're they just got

there but they're they're in a hostile

environment they're not in a friendly

environment right um so um you know it's

like if you suddenly got put in captain

of a ship but the crew was previously

your enemy right the entire crew was

previously your enemy right you know and

you're telling them give me evidence

yeah the crew doesn't want to give you

the evidence you enemy they were like

your mortal enemies just a moment ago

you just got there yeah so yeah I think

we got to give um you know um the

attorney general and you know new

director of the FBI some a little bit of

slack here because they literally just

got there I think so too but hey don't

say you're going to release it on day

one then yeah you shouldn't have said

that sure and don't say you got a big

drop coming tomorrow and that's some

[ __ ] that's been around forever it's

disappointing yeah what the and where's

the JFK files where are those yeah let

them go did they release anything on

that front I don't know what's going on

it can't be anything that's gotten to me

yet so if nothing's gotten to me yet it

can't be signicant if there's conspiracy

evidence someone's going to send it yes

Tim Dylan's going to text me 100% Tim

Dylan Dave Smith someone's going to send

my way theu yeah so it has it hasn't

been released yet yeah you would find

out and here's the real question like

what could even be in there at this

point that they haven't cleared out if

you've got paperwork from 1963 like what

is in there still what is in there that

could possibly be incriminating that

supposedly Trump said that if you saw

what they showed me you wouldn't release

it either okay what the [ __ ] does that I

haven't seen it so Cashel has yes he

said he seen it all yeah um can he just

post it to his like X account or

something I mean I just we that sounds

like an Elon move I don't think he can

he's the director of the FBI I think he

has to go through proper channels and

does he he has the channel I yeah but

there's rules he sounds like Trump he

sound like

Trump he needs an executive order what

about the storm I am the

storm I mean what channels he is the

channel well again imagine just getting

to the the hull or just getting to the

uh deck of the ship and you're the

captain yeah and now you uh you have to

figure out who's running things who's

doing this where is everything yeah um

yeah just getting getting anything done

like just like said you're you just

joined as Captain of a ship of where the

crew hates your guts yeah they were your

enemy yeah they were your enemy they're

strongly opposed to anything you want to

do yeah um and you're trying to give

them orders and you're trying to expose

them yeah they don't want to be exposed

right you're you're literally people

that are working there probably a part

of this problem I mean I I was reading

onx that like comey's daughter is like

the lead prosecutor in southern district

of New York did you read that yes and

and like so obviously there's a bit of

an entanglement there a little bit like

what if there's something that uh you

know makes puts her dad in a bad

light exactly she a [ __ ] Shredder hit

that delete button

you know did you see uh General Flynn he

was on a podcast and he he spoke

directly to James Comey yeah he said Jim

you're going to jail and unless you give

up someone deeper than you and you know

who that

is you know who I'm talking about like

that is wild yeah um I think that the

former director of the FBI might be

really in that kind of deep [ __ ] and he

really actually was doing some evil

corrupt [ __ ] while he run in the FBI I

mean it seems like there's some very

shady stuff that's been going on um it

seems like it definitely happened in

the' 60s right everybody kind of admits

to that they admit the FBI uh killed

black panthers they they did they did a

lot of [ __ ] there's a lot of stuff that

went on that we know the government did

way back in the day yeah why don't we

just data dump the files just like go in

there take photos of of all the papers

presumably paper um and just post it

online and and uh let let the CHS fall

where they may is it presumably everyone

like some like filing cabinet somewhere

I don't know right where is it where's

where's the magic filing cabinet how are

they hiding it who's got access to it

like this this is what I was hoping day

one I was hoping but obviously it's

taking a lot longer than that so I I

think part of it is like you know like

let's let's say let's say you were made

direct to the FBI okay I might be able

to that's what crazy literally you know

what's he doing now he's he's one of the

big dogs of theba but

he Secret Service guy yeah legit guy but

people think of him as a Fox News guy

just like Pete heg same thing they don't

want to think about his distinguished

military career they want to say oh that

Fox News guy director deputy director of

the Federal Bureau of Investigation I

mean Dan's hardcore I me if he if it's

if it's reasonably findable I think he's

going to find it this is between him and

cash I mean like I think they're going

to get stuff how crazy would it be if

they couldn't though how crazy would it

be if they can't find anything if it's

that if if everybody shuts their mouth

and everybody covers their ass like an

FBI computer where you type in the

search that's I I just like the basic

mechanism here like it's either in a

filing cabinet in in paper where it's

like you know maybe there's like

Progressive levels of security you know

you're like open this door oh you got to

have do you have the pass for this level

you like level unlocked and there's a

level unlocked and it's like get

there

laptop yeah yeah there's laptop you

gotta only plug it in it's in a skiff

yeah this is why like I think I think

like tour of four KNX would be awesome

like a live tour of Fort Knox we can

actually see it's like is the C there or

not they say it is is it real or did

somebody spray paint some lead you know

imagine if it's not imagine if it's not

all there like some of it's missing

where to go what if a lot of it's

missing what if like half of it's

missing I mean who how do we even know I

don't know they said the last time they

let someone look at it was decades ago

yeah well the last I believe the last

formal audit was in the

50s so I'm like okay oh my just think

about all the

other maybe yeah think about all the

other stuff that you pointed out all the

the the checks that just go out the the

NGO payments the Social Security people

think about all just all that now apply

that to the gold absolutely I just want

to like emphasize the sure Madness of

the the government it's it's just

because they have like m the Magic Money

computers that that they the checks all

the checks never bounce for the federal

government like so you don't have the

the normal corrective mechanism that

you'd have for a company or for an

individual the checks just always always

always clear the net result is inflation

which is effectively a tax on everyone

um but uh you know like the defense Pro

hasn't passed an audit in I don't know

how many years seven years yeah I mean

exactly so it's like You' have to be

freaking Chuck Norris to like only Chuck

Norris could get the defense department

to pass an order you know typee of thing

that's the level of skill you need you

know um well that's what's so insane if

you bring it back to the idea that it's

a business well yeah this would never be

tolerated in any kind of functional

business exactly so U you

know um you know Pentagon will will like

like their accounting error like the

stuff that that they lose in the couch

cushions is like 20 30 B billion dollars

a year they don't know don't know where

went it's gone

where it go and it's

gone it's so insane it's insane it's so

insane so that's why I said like even

simple things like just requiring that

the that outgoing payments for the

treasury computer have a payment code

and a comment of what the payment is

about and someone to call about the

payment um I think will have an very

powerful effect in stopping wasteful

outflows and stopping fraud yeah and and

here's another way to look at this

imagine if some there are people like

you and the Doge team out there in the

world imagine if one of those works for

an organization like us a or any other

organization and has this understanding

of how much fuckeries involved but they

have evil intentions and they're

entwined in this system for decades and

decades and they've built a career and

all the entanglements that come and they

start moving [ __ ] around

you could probably do it easy it sounds

like the way you've laid it out if you

were a career person who's in there

forever who knew how everything works Y

and you were very clever you could make

some [ __ ] happen and you could probably

do it in conjunction with some people

that you know that are forming an NGO

hey let's all work together yeah yeah

and this is the resistance that you're

facing yeah the I think it's the biggest

scam of all time this is not something

you ever saw

the biggest scam of all time ever of

human history of human history yes

wow I think you're right yeah I how what

else probably a trillion dollar scam

there's never been a trillion dollar

scam you

know now this is not something that you

ever set out to do this is not you

didn't have this as a career aspiration

this is not like this is the most absurd

outcome I can possibly imagine actually

also like Doge started as like a sort of

a a meme coin right you know it was like

a a joke cryptocurrency involving memes

and dogs mhm um and uh which is so funny

that the letters wind up being perfect

yeah well actually I was originally

going a quote like the government

efficiency commission which is very

boring name um and then people online

were no it needs to be the department of

government efficiency uh and I was like

you know what you're right of course of

course of course I mean it's more

evidence of the simulation that that

little like a mascot is a is a cute

dog it's a meme coin the meme coin is

probably worth a lot of money right now

right like every time you tweet about it

probably I don't know shoots up yeah the

the mem the whole meme coin thing is

bananas yeah it is so bananas that

people dump real money into these coins

and then you could just pump them up and

sell them a casino or something I don't

know yeah it's totally G people just do

whatever the greater fo and musical

chairs and whoever's like the last to

sit down lose type of thing and somehow

or another it's still legal like that's

that's think not I think not too many

people I

mean I mean it's sort of like you go to

the casino like you if you expect to win

at the casino you're being a fool okay

so I think if you expect to win at meme

coins you're being it's not you're being

foolish yeah yeah you're not gonna win a

meme coins it's like it's it's but if if

if you want like don't sink your life

savings into a meme coin no but you can

gamble a little and you can ride waves

and win a little and lose a little if if

you want to have some fun and and don't

come then you know play have play with

me and coins but if you put your if you

put your on a m coin in the at the RIS

of saying something bold and outrageous

don't bet the F on a

mcoin the weird one is the pump and

dumps like people all time all the time

and people get shocked that somebody

pump and dumped like what is what are

you doing did you like I was hoping to

dump I was hoping to make all the money

out of this I can't believe they got me

like yeah it's just weird that it's

legal

still uh I mean casinos IL legal and and

people just lose money at casinos you

know but you can't rig a casino like a

pump and dump you could rig a pump and

dump you know uh yeah I guess so

um like you could run a real pyramid

scheme well I mean the government's one

a big pyramid scheme if you ask me yeah

well you you can tell Social Security is

is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time

right explain that oh so um well people

pay into Social Security um and and the

money goes out of Social Security

immediately but the obligation for

Social Security is uh your entire

retirement career so you're you're

paying uh with your the

you're paying like like if you look at

the future obligations of Social

Security it far exceeds uh the tax

revenue far have you ever looked at the

the the debt The Debt Clock yes okay

there's there's there's our present day

debt but then there's our future

obligations so when you look at the

future obligations of Social Security um

the actual uh national debt is like

double what what people think it is

because of the future

obligations ah so basically people are

living way longer than expected um

and uh there are fewer babies being born

so you have more people who are retired

and get that that live for a long time

and get retirement payments so the

future obligations so H how bad the

financial situation is right now for the

federal government it will be much worse

in the future

at the risk of being a buzz kill here

did you see so we better fix what we got

right now because if it's bad now it's

going to be much worse in the future

there was an interview with this woman

who was a whistleblower did we ever find

out if that was true there's so many

whistles being blown it's hard to keep

track a lot of whistles this one lady it

was only in one state it was very

specific instance believe right but it

was using Social Security money correct

that was her that was her allegation so

what what she was alleging was that she

was in charge of turning uh illegal

immigrants into clients that's what they

would call them and that she would go to

them and try to ask them do you have a

headache do you have back problems if

you do now you can be permanently

disabled you get permanent disability so

you get Social Security for Life yes

yeah no not just Social Security but

disability which is even more right and

you get them for on the taxpayer Dole

right away the m and they're illegal

aliens yes oh so if I were to say like

what's at the heart of the sort of like

why is a Democrat propaganda machine so

fired up to destroy me that's the main

reason the main reason is that uh is

that um uh entitlements fraud that

includes like Social Security Disability

Medicaid uh entitlements fraud for

illegal aliens is what is serving as a

gigantic magnetic force to pull people

in from all around the world and keep

them here like basically

if you if you pay people uh at a

standard of living that is above 90% of

Earth then you have a very powerful

uh incentive for 90% of Earth to come

here and to stay here but if you if you

end the illegal alien fraud then you

that you turn off that

magnet and they leave and they they stop

coming and and the ones that are here

many of them will simply leave

and if if that happens a massive they

will lose a massive number of democratic

voters and if it didn't happen they

would turn those people into voters

correct which they were trying to do

they are already turning them so in in

New York state illegal aliens can

already vote in state and city

elections a lot of people don't don't

know that there there's I mean they're

trying to fight that in they're trying

to stop that but it's there currently I

think it's like

600,000 uh are Reg said to vote illegal

aliens in New York that is wild yeah

well well I mean if you look at

say um you know FEMA like the the agency

that was paying for illegal aliens to

stay at luxury hotels in New York was

FEMA the F you know that's meant that

that's an agency that's meant to support

Americans in distress from natural

disasters was paying for luxury hotels

for illegals in New York it's true yeah

that's a fact fact they're literally

like when we stuff that payment we we

stopped all those those money because

that's obviously an insane way to spend

taxpayer money um the uh New York uh

sued the government Su the federal

government to get the

money so you can just look at their

lawsuit they they were give they were

sending that money even after president

Trump signed an executive order saying

it needs to to

stop they still press sand on $80

million to luxury hotels in New York

your tax money went to pay for illegal

aliens in luxury hotels in New York from

an agency that is meant to help

Americans in distress from natural

disasters right and I would like to know

how much and I would like to know how

much they spent on North Carolina and

how much they spent on Maui yes

exactly uh what What's actually happened

is they're buying

voters that's really what's happening

it's like it's like a giant voter for

scam they're importing

voters and uh and it's really just a

matter of time so like a lot of people

have trouble believing this but if you

the more you look at it the more you

will realize just how much of a problem

this is and how it's it's it's not just

real it

is it is an attempt to destroy

Democracy in America that's what in my

view it is what it really is like if you

take the the the sort of seven swing

States like often the imin of Victory

there is like maybe 20,000 votes if you

put 200,000 um illegals in there and

they have like a 80% likelihood of

voting

them uh and it's only a matter of time

before they become citizens then those

swing States will not be swing states in

the future and if they are not swing

States we will be a permanent one party

State

country

permanent uh deep blue socialist State

that's what America will become and that

was the game plan that that was that was

the game plan that is still the game

plan and they almost succeeded if if if

if the if the machine of which the Kam

puppet was the representation had won

that's what would have happened the

reason I went so hardcore for for for

for Trump was

because to me this was a folk in the

road very like a very obvious folk in

the road

um if they had another four years they

would legalize enough illegals in the

swing states to make the swing States

uh not swing States they would just

there would be blue

States then then they would they would

win the presidential they'd win the

house the Senate and the presidency

um they would then make uh District you

know DC into a state may maybe Puerto

Rico get four extra Senators pack the

Supreme Court so then you'll have the

house Judiciary

Senate uh and presidency all blue and

then they will keep importing more

illegals to cement that that outcome

basically what happened in

California Jesus Christ it would have

been the

end that's why I went so hardcore for

for trump it was otherwise been the end

and that's why the the the Democrat

machine is so intent on destroying

me it's just so fascinating that people

can't see this I mean I invite people to

do their research the more they do their

research the more they will see that

what I'm saying is absolutely

true D it's like just do the research

yeah it's it's such a bad idea even for

the Democrats which is what they don't

understand like it's the same it's not

ultimately going to work out no it's the

same people yes it's just they're doing

it under the guys that they're the kind

compassionate Progressive people yes but

the same outcome takes place it's just

about control they they probably

Institute some Central Bank digital

currency and some social credit score

system and censorship of course yeah of

course well they that was the big Fe

coming into this election was that if

they can't censor things like well I we

talked about it before but there's there

was two major Forks in the road the big

one was Trump didn't get shot y the

other big one was You by Twitter and if

those two things don't happen the whole

world looks different yes yeah we don't

want to be on that timeline no we don't

want to have only one side represented

because guess what they will hijack that

side whatever it is they will hijack

that side and use it for money and

control and that's what it's all about

it's not about good people versus bad

people it's a [ __ ] shell game yeah I

I mean I think these things are actually

it's easy to understand if you look at

basic incentives the the basic incentive

here is the more legals that the

Democrats can bring in the more likely

they are to win so that's what they're

going to

do um that's what they have been doing

uh and it worked in California

California super majority Dem um and

look at all the companies that are

leaving California

yeah um I mean in and- out just

announced they're leaving their

headquarters leaving California they're

moving to Tennessee yeah yeah

so um and and California uh made

Healthcare free for illegals yeah as of

last year so and and that obviously

that's a gigantic magnet for more

illegals like and this is not a thing

you can solve simply with money because

what happens is the you simply have more

patients than a doctor can possibly see

and you can't just you know make doctors

out of nothing like the it so people

like oh it's just a money thing no you

it takes a long time for somebody to

become a doctor you know the 30 years um

and uh and so what actually happens in

California is that there are too many

patients for the doctors to see so then

uh the average citizen in California

suffers as a result um now the the elite

in California are fine because they have

private doctors you know they have they

can they can just pay for the best

doctors so the elite in California doing

fine but your your average C citizen in

California is not doing fine um and the

the tax burden for uh healthcare for

illegals was supposed to be three

billion I think they now estimated it's

9 billion but that but that that number

will scale to Infinity basically it's

like why not like why not if you if you

need any operation at all come to

California and have it be free right

from anywhere on earth and the people

that want to look at it in the most

charitable way they say oh well these

people are hardworking good people and

they're the backbone of our city and

they should have access to all the

things that we have access to and I just

don't think they understand that it's a

political Pawn I don't think they

understand this is not done for

compassion and kindness no this is just

done to ensure that it stays Blue

correct yeah and it's essentially a

bribery with your tax dollars yes this

is why um that the dams will not even um

Deport criminals yeah um because every

criminal deported is a lost vote so even

even if if somebody is uh um illegal

with a criminal record and commits crime

in America they are still still were not

being

deported and then on top of that

California made it actually illegal to

ask for ID when people vote Yes

California and New York uh you are not

allowed to show your ID when you vote I

just want to be clear so everyone

understands this in California New York

you are not allowed to show your ID even

if you want to

right why would that ever be a good

idea I mean what like if you want to man

if you're trying to do if you're trying

to facilitate fraud in elections it's a

great idea that's the only reason yes

there's no other reason Lally why that

would be a good idea it's for fraud it's

it's like it's like wake up

she wake up hello like let's say you

wanted to commit for what are the things

you would do yeah you would say you

don't need ID and you can mail in your

ballot and we'll give you free healthare

yes stay here yes stay here I know it's

on fire but stay here I mean in this

case it being on fire is not just a

metaphor in California okay it's just

like godamn

entire neighborhood's burning down it's

just once they uh allowed people to vote

that are not legal in

California once you if you're if you're

going to do that it's it's over it's

exactly there's there's no coming back

from that the numbers are just no people

are so indoctrinated too there's so many

people that no matter what they think

voting Republican means you're an

[ __ ] yes and they won't do it they

won't do it they they'll put their

[ __ ] rainbow flag on their porch and

they'll just ride it right into the

beach civilizational suicide yeah right

to the Rocks bang crash the boat I mean

uh there's there's a guy um who post X

who's who great God Gods side yeah

friend of mine he been on podcast punch

times yeah he's awesome yeah he's great

um and he talks about uh you know

basically suicidal empathy mhm like if

there's like there's so much empathy

that you actually suicide yourself yeah

um so that we've got civilizational

suicidal empathy going on and it's like

I believe in empathy like I think you

should care about other people but you

need to have empathy for for

civilization as a whole and not commit

to a civilizational suicide also don't

let someone use your empathy against you

so they can completely control your

state and then do it insanely bad job of

managing it and never get

removed the the the fundamental weakness

of Western Civilization is

empathy the empathy exploit they there

it's it's they're exploiting a a a bug

in western civilization which is the

empathy

response so and I I I think you know

empathy is good but you need to think it

through and not just

be programmed like a robot right

understand when empathy has been

actually used as a to a tool yes like

the it's weaponized empathy yeah is the

issue yeah weaponized empathy and yeah

um and it's also the rigid adherence to

that liberal ideology like you can't

switch sides over there like California

if you're a part of that whole Tech

Hollywood entertainment any any of those

circles you're on the left like almost

wholly almost completely it's borderline

illegal to be a republican in California

uh I mean like in San Francisco or La

it's borderline illegal to be a

republican you're certainly shunned no I

look I mean in like San Francisco you

you you could shoot heroin while taking

a dump on the mayor's car in front of

City Hall okay and and that and nothing

would happen to

you but if you walk down the street with

a Maga hat you're GNA get

attacked yeah it's insane yeah it's

insane it's also so orwellian that a hat

that says make America great again would

cause people to have a violent reaction

like aren't you American wouldn't just

just as a a whole like the saying

wouldn't that be a good thing for

everyone make America great again but

because it's attached to Donald Trump

and that red hat you'll get maced for

wearing that red hat they will make

America worse by beating you so it's

like it's an evil thing they're

doing a violent assault in America

because you want to make America great

again I mean it's like a scene in a book

it doesn't it doesn't seem like it could

be that ridiculous like remember when

all lives matter would get you fired

which is insane insane people got fired

because they said all lives matter which

is a very reasonable thing to say how

reasonable is that yes that's

essentially saying everybody matters but

that's not that's Lally all you're

saying that's not what you were supposed

to say you had to say black lives matter

which of course they do if you say all

lives matter everybody matters yes but

the idea of being a colorblind Society

was completely abandoned somewhere

around

2012-ish yeah I mean I I sort of can

trace it to when when did the the the

gun emoji get nerfed you know uh when

did it turn into a squirt gun that was a

couple of years ago that was like 2016 I

think was it yeah yeah it became a

squirt

gun can you bring it back X yeah no no

right now if if if you uh use a gun

emoji on X the Apple will insist that

it' be a squirt gun and then the X app

turns it back into uh a 1911 oh really

yeah oh that's great so you can you can

actually uh you know have have a 1911

gun um we we we reverted the Apple

change inside the app oh that's

hilarious that's hilarious that that

it's that thing's so offensive the gun

and then the pregnant man both of those

got me like you

[ __ ] I mean I like that mem

where it's like the people telling you

that what you're hearing is dis

information are the same people that did

the pregnant man emoji yes yeah think

about that yeah well also the same

people that say a woman attacked a Tesla

Factory yeah the woman it's a dude it's

a dude like really obvious dude really

big mentally ill dude yeah mentally ill

dude with a wig on say that yes yeah but

NBC even fo you're looking at the

picture a woman yo this is got a this

this is a dude with a wrong jawline okay

he's wearing Woman

face is a buff it's a buff dude yeah

it's a buff dude wearing Woman face I

mean come on that's not a that's not a

woman yeah and they're like saying watch

shot for disinformation I'm like what

are you talking about it's so crazy this

is [ __ ] I mean it's just more

evidence of the virus though right like

it killed objectivity killed reality and

it it demanded strict adherence or you

were attacked yeah

yeah any questioning of it uh would

result in in being ostracized do you

like what what kind of responsibility do

you like knowing that if you didn't take

over Twitter and turn it into X if that

didn't happen like the I really think

the world's a very different place right

now like how long have you owned it for

a couple years basically imag imagine a

couple years of it being run the way it

was run before and probably accelerating

my account would have been suspended

long

ago for sure yeah for sure yeah just for

the

disinformation

yeah um it would have been Trum would

have never come back Alex Jones would

have definitely never been back

definitely not no no um

so yeah um does that weigh on you like I

would feel like that would be a [ __ ]

heavy

responsibility

yeah um I mean I'm just trying to keep

civilization going here you know for

longer um

um I think we at least want to build a

city on Mars um and become a multiplet

civilization uh which I think would be

incredibly important in ensuring the

long-term survival of

civilization are you still rescuing

those people that are stuck in the space

station uh yeah that's coming up in a

couple weeks I think whoa they've been

up there for how long Jamie they were

supposed to be there for a couple days

right I think actually prob like four

weeks oh they're supposed to be they

were supposed to be up there for like

eight days yeah and they've been up

there for like I think eight months so a

little longer than expected [ __ ] yeah

what is it going to be like for those

people when they get back they're going

to be a wreck for a long time right yeah

if as long you stay up there you get you

know sort of in zero you get increased

bone loss so

um you it ended up being like this

political football um and uh sort of

sort of hotly contested topic um we

offered to bring them back early this

offer was rejected by the Biden

Administration whyl for political

reasons that's so crazy I there's no way

that they're going to make anyone who's

supporting Trump look look

good

wow what do you think they would have

done if they had

won uh well get those people back no

they can they can only get them back

with with a SpaceX spacecraft but they

they push the return date past the uh

inauguration

date wow

yeah so they would have let you do it

but after the

wow and so it would have been them

authorizing you there isn't anyone else

to to to do it NASA can't get them uh

the only only the SpaceX Dragon

spacecraft is the only one that is

considered safe enough to bring them

back so the NASA concluded that the

Boeing spacecraft was not safe so that's

why they're stuck there holy [ __ ] yeah

and you can't ask Russia to help that

would be awkward a little bit yeah yeah

be a nice thing if they did they said

guys will help you I think they for

enough money they would you think so uh

yeah but they would they would obviously

treat it as a propaganda Victory and

charge crazy

money it's just disgusting that they

would use that as a political

tool yeah um yeah um so well they were

also the Biden Administration was also

suing SpaceX uh they had this massive

lawsuit against SpaceX for SpaceX not

hiring Asylum Seekers right so so people

like say like oh El's making it up this

V Administration wasn't against SpaceX

I'm like bro the Department of Justice

had a massive lawy law suit against

SpaceX for not hiring Asylum Seekers

even though it is illegal for us to hire

hire anyone who is not a permanent

resident so it is both there's a law

that says you have to hire Asylum

Seekers but there's also a law that says

anyone hired by a rocket company which

is an advanced weapons technology must

be a permanent resident and if an asylum

Seeker is not a permanent resident so it

is both legal and illegal to hire Asylum

Seekers

so why would the vien Administration

launch a massive lawsuit again this is

public information it's not like my

imagination um why would they launch do

such a massive lawsuit against

SpaceX they're extremely

antagonistic it just doesn't make any

sense that that could ever even get past

the first day of someone looking at it

if it's both illegal and you're trying

to enforce it like you can't enforce it

yes this is an advanced weapons company

this is crazy it should be like this

throw this out there's in fact there's

like International traffic and arms

regulations is a like a law that is

there to ensure that if if only

permanent residents of the United States

can work at Advanced weapons companies

Rockets are Advanced weapons uh so the

same is true of like if it's like

nuclear or you know some like you know

bioweapon thing or something like that

um so because they obviously if if

someone were to work at basic and then

go leave and go to North Korea or Iran

they could build missile technology that

could uh you know destroy the United

States so that's why you're not allow to

hire people who are per resident logical

basic logical logical so is that lawsuit

still pending I was it was just

dismissed how long was it going on for a

couple years holy [ __ ]

yeah that's the other thing that drives

me crazy like that people don't

understand that if you sanction laware

like that if you sanction attacking your

political enemies someone's going to do

that to you like if the wrong people get

in office yeah if new people getting off

four years from now eight years from now

who knows who it's going to be you've

already set a precedent you've already

attack someone charged them with 34

felonies where they're really just

misdemeanors and they're passed the

statute of limitation and now you're

talking all over the news that this is a

convicted felon convicted felon they

kept saying convicted felon convicted

felon and everybody knows what it is yes

it's terrifying it's terrifying they

could do it so brazenly to a guy who was

the president for four years right um

that lawsuit was funded by Reed Hoffman

uh who is a major damned

donor and also an FD and client

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uh the pl the plot thickens the plot

thickens Jesus Christ

yes it's

just it's so blatant it's like so

obvious the SpaceX lawsuit the Trump

stuff it's just it's so obvious yes like

known FC clients um who are obviously

extremely powerful um they powerful

politically and and very wealthy um are

you know bullate

um Bill Clinton and Reed

Hoffman and some others two but those

three so you know why was Reed Hoffman

so intent on destroying

Trump do you think it's because they're

worried about the list coming

out yeah one of the

reasons

yeah so I mean I'm like this is you know

yeah

so it's so frustrating to be sitting in

the situation where the the list isn't

coming out well it better come out I

mean hopefully tomorrow might well I

mean why' they release [ __ ] today I

don't know what's the point in giving

these people like a a happy folder to

wave around in front of the camera with

nothing in it that's new doesn't make

any sense it's not

encouraging

uh like I said it's the tough thing that

they've got is you know they've been

made captain of a ship with a hostile

crew right right so they don't have like

you it's not like you you have like

magical powers you get made captain of a

triple the Hostile crew you still have a

hostile crew right um you've got to

bring in people who are going to you be

helpful as opposed to OB obstructionist

right

so um but yeah I think the the public

will be right

frustrated if there is if no one is

prosecuted for the FC Client List no one

at all which you don't know

like is you know like at least I don't

know the top five or something like some

number should there should at least be

an attempted prosecution of the worst

offenders well particularly if galain

Maxwell is in jail for sex trafficking

yes cuz like well trafficking sex

trafficking occurred right so she was in

she's in jail for it yes

so to who are the clients yeah yeah how

do you put someone in jail and you don't

even name the clients that sounds kind

of insane I think yes it it it

would yes because just stunning that

they've been able to hold it back for so

long it's really kind of amazing like

when people say that people can't keep

secrets what the [ __ ] are you talking

about look at this yeah I mean a bunch

of these things are not

like it's it's common knowledge but we

just we don't actually have the proof

right um so the proof is there I mean

there's lots of

videos

um yeah there's lots I mean the dude

it's like a mountain of like whenever

they raided fen's place there would have

been like a mountain of evidence where

is that mountain right what' you do with

it yes like Who took possession of the

evidence yeah specifically right the

individuals where are the tapes yes how

many levels of clearance do I have to

get to get into the Vault

Yeah

well yeah

yeah um you know what we need are people

who are really good with

computers oh yeah and really good with

technology remember seeing this photo

that's when they raided his home they

were that's they on the island they were

there then yeah they got everything I'm

sure I mean there must have been so much

stuff on that island there must have

been and if it wasn't there where was it

yeah what you know it has to be uploaded

somewhere there has to be some sort of a

chain of evidence yeah or chain of

custody there got to be a mountain of of

evidence yeah um the other thing they're

going to talk about is uh uaps they're

going to release all the UAP information

so you're the GU to ask about

this what what if any possibility is

there that there is some sort of

advanced propulsion system technology

that's being worked on in

secret and that they're trying to cover

this up with this talk of aliens and

alien Tech and not of this world and is

it possible that there's some sort of

very secret program that's going on in

cahoots with some defense contractors

that are developing Advanced propulsion

systems that they're using for these

drones

uh I mean SpaceX um you know my company

SpaceX is has the most advanced rocket

technology in the world I think I'd know

right

um and I the best of my knowledge there

is not any magic there there's not like

some super Advanced propulsion

technology there have been people who

have theorized different gravity drives

and different is there anything that's

ever gotten past the theoretical stage

no nothing well there's nothing even

that I'm aware of that works in

theory it's not like I don't I I would

like this to exist to be clear I would

like this to exist um and I have the I I

I from a security clearance standpoint I

have top top secret there there is I

have equivalent of like an all access

pass from a security clearance

standpoint so

uh I I'm I don't think they're hiding it

from me basically I don't think they

they could um unless it's completely in

these weapons manufacturing corporations

I mean I know these weapons

manufacturing companies like boing lucky

to northr I mean yeah they do some

interesting things but uh they do not

have I there's no breakthrough that they

have so I'm confident they do not have a

breakthrough when you hear people like

like why just compete with SpaceX and

make a better rocket in which case you

know they can make why are they holding

back on making um a lot of money from

beating SpaceX with better Rockets my

thought was that what if it's just a

drone and you can't have a biological

entity inside of it because it just

bursts from the [ __ ] speed that it's

moving

at that a human couldn't tolerate the

amount of force so they're just

drones I don't think so so what do you

think people like Ryan Graves Commander

David I want cool things to exist like

say

like do I want UFOs to exist yes I want

UFOs to exist because that would be

really interesting course everybody does

yeah it would be cool it's it's a more

boring world where UFOs don't exist or

or like flying like Advanced propulsion

stuff doesn't exist that's a if if it

doesn't exist that's more boring I'd

like it' be more interesting if it did

exist I'd like it to exist I hope we

find something but I have not seen like

I mean

like SpaceX has launches 90% of

all satellite Mass to orbit so if you

take all of

Earth uh rocket all of Earth's rocket

launchers my company has a 90% market

share of Earth China does about 5% and

the rest of the world does including the

Boeing lock North and everyone does

5% so

why why wouldn't they use this to defeat

SpaceX yeah

yeah would no listen that's why I asked

you it would make sense what do you

think these people are seeing a rocket

every two days but what do you think

these people are seeing when when you

have reliable people like Commander

David fraver who had that Infamous

ticktock uh Tic Tac experience off the

coast of San Diego where they got this

thing on video they tracked it going

50,000 ft above sea level to 50 ft in

like a second okay yeah yeah and then

they also have video evidence of this

thing accelerating at a great speed

eyewitness accounts from two different

Jets sure

um I mean can we does anybody have a

high-risk video or photo of this thing

well there's a video of this thing where

they're locked onto it and and then it

takes off it shoots off frame no no it's

like whatever the systems they used on

fighter jets in 2004 potentially like

Windows 95 I me there like somebody did

a curve of like the resolution of UFOs

and the resolution of

cameras U UFO resolution has stayed flat

despite megapixels and cameras going

like you know super high well according

to Christopher Mel why they still blurry

Christopher melan who worked in the

state department said that they have

high resolution photos videos of these

things and that's all that he's seen it

it's all locked away whenever people say

that to me like don't even tell me that

then don't unless you have just leak it

for God's sake put it out there like let

it slip yes yeah uh I mean there's a

couple photos they're grainy there's not

one thing that I've ever looked at and

go holy [ __ ] that's it that's what I've

looking for you could ask our Gro AI

right now to create a h highres image of

of an alien spacecraft uh you know over

Austin yeah and it's going to do a great

job so why we do we not have at least

that

right yeah but I want to believe that's

the problem my brain starts going oh

come on this is no fun I want it to be

real I want there to be at least be some

Advanced propulsion system if not like

what are all these people seeing like

what is h if we're not being

occasionally visited by things that are

smart enough to hide we might be I just

that these aliens are very subtle yeah

you keep saying saying that it's a good

good line I mean it's a solid line cuz

it's pretty accurate I just want to see

some high RIS video of aliens like how

are they just evading all the cameras if

you think about that and the ones that

you do get them on that's just like some

Far Away light that's moving weird and

it could be a lot of things but I want

believe yeah I mean I mean there've been

like multiple times where um you know

the Air Force and navy is has called

SpaceX and as and said they they they

think they've seen aliens and we're like

was it at this time on this state in

this location they're like yes how do

you know that's

us there been a lot of that that's our

satellites those are our satellites

they're like no they're not I'm like

yeah yeah they're they're definitely our

satellites oh yeah people see the SpaceX

satellites all the time whing by yeah

they're last our satellites and they're

they are moving at you know 16,000 mil

hour so it's pretty fast um and there's

also stuff that the United States

government does have that gets mistaken

for UFOs I remember the first time I saw

a stealth bomber we were filming Fear

Factor it was like right after uh

2003 like right after the the war had

broken off and they were flying a

stealth bomber down in Palmdale I was

like holy [ __ ] like if I didn't know

what that was I would 100% think that's

from another world when you see cool

[ __ ] cool yeah really cool I mean it

doesn't look like a a humans it looks

like something from battl Star Galactica

you know it does look yeah it does look

awesome um I mean they're they're not

stealthy against any uh Advanced radar

system by the way it doesn't work it

doesn't work anymore doesn't work no was

it old school stuff they're they're only

they're only stealthy against uh old

Radars oh okay I mean you can still see

them like they're not invisible right

right they're not like oh it's not like

you know uh cloaking device from Star

Trek did you see when me and Lex uh we

we watched

the the rocket get caught live while

while it was happening that to me was

one of the to see it actually I've seen

videos of it happen but to see it

actually live was one of the coolest

[ __ ] things you're like wow we are in

the future right I mean nobody else can

that yeah it's true nobody else can do

that that's fact yeah it's pretty wild

it's cuz I'm an alien it's time

you I'm an alien and I keep trying

telling people I'm an alien but they

don't believe me I believe you okay

thank you I believe you that's my my

suspicion all along was that you I'm

trying to get back to my own planet that

you're a friendly alien like it's

nothing wrong with aliens I like people

from everywhere yeah even other planets

what's next like now that you can do

that you can catch Rockets what's like

the ultimate expression of Rocket

technology like what what comes after

this

well I mean the fundamental breakthrough

we're aiming for at SpaceX is a fully

and rapidly reusable orbital rocket

where both stages are fully and rapidly

reusable with our Falcon rocket we are

able to reuse the main stage and the the

nose cone but we're we're not able to

reuse the upper stage um and it it's

still takes us a you know at least a few

days from when the main stage lands to

when we can flly a gain so it it doesn't

it doesn't it's it's doesn't it's not

fully reusable because we lose the upper

stage uh which cost $10 million to build

and

um and then and then the the main stage

it's it's not as reusable as like an

aircraft you can't just like refuel it

and fly it

requires um work for a couple days um

but this the

Starship design is the first design that

is capable of full and Rapid reusability

where that is one of the possible

outcomes um and once you have full and

Rapid reusability the cost of access to

space drops by a factor of 100 it's like

100 times

cheaper

um by some metrics it's a thousand times

cheaper and

um and then when when you factor in uh

orbital re re refilling so you refill on

orbit uh it it can drop the cost of

going cost per ton to the surface of

Mars by a factor of

10,000 whoa yeah so what has to improve

in order to make it

reusable

um well

um we need there's there's

some like we're pretty close to being

able to re rapidly reuse the booster for

Starship um that's why you know it it

comes back and gets caught by the arms

and then the arms place it back in the

launch Mount so um now this still you

know um we have a little bit of engine

damage we got little bit of heat shield

damage um there's uh like there's like

tweaks that that are needed but but the

but we're pretty close to achieving full

and Rapid reusability of the of the

booster um the ship we we we're I mean I

I think we'll achieve reusability of the

ship this year um and I think we'll

achieve rapid reusability of the whole

stack ship and booster next

year um this is the fundamental

breakthrough required for life to become

multiplanetary and what is what needs to

improve in order to make it reusable

like what is what's wrong with it right

now uh on the shift side the the

toughest problem is the heat shield so

no no one has actually no one has ever

developed a fully reusable orbital heat

shield because you come when you come in

from orbital velocity you come in like a

flaming meteor like you're just a raging

ball of fire

um and it's it's hard to have a heat

shield that doesn't

partially melt or get destroyed in that

process um you know that that wasn't a

problem we were able to solve with

falcon9 that's why the opper stage uh

burns up on re-entry

um with the with Starship the the the

the ship portion you got the the booster

and you got the ship um we got to solve

the making a fully reusable orbital heat

shield a problem that has never been

solved

before um for a while I was like I'm not

sure there's this is solvable at this

point I think it is

solvable um it requires detailed

iteration on the heat shield

tiles

um and I mean we've vertically

integrated the manufacturing of the heat

shield tiles because there there was no

supplier that could provide us with the

materials that were needed so

the

um you need to make essentially this

this very

fine verelli of of glass and aluminum

oxide uh

fibers um aluminum oxide is basically

Sapphire so it's like glass and Sapphire

very fine fibers in exactly the right

geometry uh with special

Coatings um in order to have the this

heat shield tile be reusable

um like not melt um and but not be so

brittle that it gets damaged um on

Ascent or

descent um like it can't be as you know

it's it's kind of like almost the

brittleness of a coffee cup type of

thing um and the Rocket's shaking like

hell so you got this thing like you saw

it firstand like imagine you're at

Ground Zero of that rocket like you feel

how much shaking it was when you're like

5 miles away imagine if you're right

there you know so you got you're shaking

these things that are like as brittle as

a coffee cup trying not to have them

crack or

break um and then not have them melt um

you got several thou several thousand of

these things

um you know and if even a few of them

break it's not reusable so is there

Innovation that's being done in the

materials technology at SpaceX where

you're you're constantly trying to find

and tweak a better version of this yes

it's a very difficult problem no it's a

problem no one has ever solved so we've

got to get the exact right uh materials

combination uh the the right molecules

in the right

shape and and then apply those that heat

shield perfectly to the rocket with no

mistakes um there's a reason that no one

solved this before it's a very difficult

problem so um like said we we had to vot

integrate the entire manufacturing of

the tile from basic raw materials to a

finished tile um rebuild like build the

entire supply chain from basic raw

materials so where you're just

inputting uh silicon uh silicon and

aluminum oxides and what is the

difference between the way you guys do

it versus the way they used to do it for

the space

shuttle uh

well I mean the the space shuttle um

like space shuttle Leading Edge uh used

uh like quite dense Caron Caren tiles

like it was um they're like basically

thick and heavy uh but also subjected to

cracking that's like what what happen is

the foam broke off and it's it hit the

tile cracked the tile then on Entry the

the cracked the tiles that have been

cracked or broken uh weren't able to

Shield the the shuttle and so the the

the the plasma got in melted the the

primary structure the whole the whole

Space shut broke

apart yeah so you you can't basically

can't have something that's as

brittle you know brittle like the space

shuttle there's footage of that right

yeah yeah

um uh and Rain debris over the whole

United States so yeah and they got

almost all the pieces um the the

I mean the full the full technical

explanation would would would I think be

understood by about six people um

listening to this um like the there was

a lot of brilliant engineering the space

shuttle tiles um and and and and a bunch

of the heat shielding wasn't even tiles

it was actually uh silica blankets like

you know um felt blankets essentially um

if you look closely you'll see it

actually is uh they're actually Heat

Blankets not not tiles in in some areas

um but but they they would have crack

tiles and they would have occasionally

the tiles would fall off there were a

few close calls U where tiles fell off

but they weren't in a super vulnerable

position uh in the on the space shuttle

um so but it would take it would take

them several months like eight nine

months to refurbish a space shuttle

between each flight so it was it was it

was not

reusable really um and and certainly

wasn't rapid

um like I said very hard problem U

you've got to have you you've also got

to ATT sort of attach the tiles in a way

that

um enables the the structure underneath

to move uh to expand and contract ah um

even though you've got these very rigid

tiles um

so like the

the main the the tanks which take on

cryogenic propellant will contract when

you put in the cryogenic propellent but

then when you come in and you get very

hot they will expand so now you're

you're expanding the you're Contracting

and expanding the gap between these

rigid tiles but how

much uh it varies depending on where you

are on the on the on the vehicle so if

you're in the um if you're in the

cryogenic tank section like the I mean

you can see like a 10 20% difference in

the Gap um really it's pretty

significant yeah it's enough that you

can't just put all the tiles you can't

just Jam the tiles together if you if

you put them to if you if you actually

but buted them up um they would they

would all crack because there's too much

movement there's there's also some

amount of body bending so as the the

ship is like

ascending uh you know when when the

engines steer

there's a little bit of movement um so

if the tiles are too close together they

they'll they'll essentially just crack

and snap like how you have to have a gap

like how PL yeah like plain Wing will

move yeah plain body will move

too wow and how you have to have some

Gap but if you have too much of a gap

then the the the heat gets gets to the

you know get gets past the the tile and

uh melts the the structure holy [ __ ]

it's a hard

and how large are these tiles I mean

they're like that big that's it well

they're not all exactly the same size

but yeah we're sort of a hexagonal tile

and they have to essentially be you

can't like 3D print the whole thing you

can't have one structure it has to be

tiles because it has to have that

ability to move well there's no 3D

printer that's I mean the biggest ones

are like

maybe 3et you know there's no you you

can't you print it um nor nor would you

you have to have something that can move

right uh it has to be able to fle to

flex um like so you got expansion and

contraction um you you're really D like

you're you know

you're um you're putting in liquid

oxygen which is likeus 300°

fah

um actually we we subcool it to you

know- 330 Dees fah um so it's very cold

and then it will be several hundred

degrees maybe a th000 deges fahit

potentially um in went on re-entry so

you have this huge temperature swing so

the the thermal expansion is substantial

and the whole and you got thermal

expansion and contraction combined with

body bending so you have to take the

worst case Body vending and thermal

expansion

contraction this was a very hard problem

yeah yeah Del delicate balance but

you're confident that you guys are going

to be able to crack it at this point I I

I'm confident that it is solvable

yeah it just needs a certain amount of

versions of it that's why when these

things blow up you're like yeah we

expect them to blow up yeah what would

be really helpful is for us to get the

ship back um so we can

study where like where we had cracked

tiles or lost tiles why why did we you

know why did we have a cracked all L

tiles was because maybe the tiles were

the Gap was too big too small maybe

there was a a height difference between

the

tiles um maybe we need to change the

chemical

composition um you know there's we we

just want if we can get the dam ship

back intact we can we can iterate a lot

better um which we'll get it back intact

um so I think we'll get it back intact

this

year um but that that's why I think we

we'll we'll probably recover the ship

sometime this year and then um we might

be able to refly one with a but probably

with a fair bit of work by the end of

this year but it's going to take us many

iterations before we can achieve rapid

reusability where the ship comes back

lands get gets caught like the booster

with the

arms and can then and then arms plac it

on top of the booster and it launches

again whoa

so like I said that's you know reduce

cost of access to space by a factor of

100 and what is the process of returning

these people that are stuck in the space

station well we we we I mean we send

SpaceX dragon to the space station all

the time and we've um we've now taken

people to orbit and back was taking over

50 people over over 50 astronauts

so it's just a matter of doing it yeah

and is it a matter of waiting for we do

it routinely basically it's not a we've

we've been doing this for a few years so

when is this Rescue Mission going to

launch

um yeah probably about um um about four

weeks or so it's depending on weather

and other considerations uh about it's

about a month away well that'll be uh

I'm sure a welcome moment for those poor

people that are stuck up there so so

it's a bit of a political football so

they're not going to complain um no I'm

sure they're football but obviously we

we could have brought them back way

sooner that's so [ __ ] up so let's

let's take it past the point where you

have these scales you have a reusable

ship yeah and you've you've got it

dialed in then what are the steps what

are what what's next step after that is

it an

unmanned ver Voyage to Mars first

unmanned fly to Mars um the Earth and

Mars um orbit synchronize every two

years um or every 26 months technically

so um the next orbital synchronization

is November of next year so and you can

launch plus minus a month roughly so

we'd have to launch in November or

December of next year and so the the

default plan is to launch hopefully

several Starships to Mars at the end of

next year and what would they be

doing well at first we're just going to

try to land on Mars and see if we

succeed in landing um do do we succeed

in landing like let's say we were able

to send five ships do all five land

intact or do we uh add some craters to m

um if we add some craters we've got to

be bit more cautious about sending

people you know and we need

to so we got to make sure the thing

lands safely how does it land on Mars uh

with on Rockets Rus so it'll just land

oh we'll add legs okay it'll just land

and have legs and

so it'll be remote controlled from Earth

or just autonomous autonomous

completely Mars is uh you can't remote

control things from Earth because Mars

yeah it's too far speed light you have

speed light constraints so um Mars at

closest approach is roughly four light

minutes um and uh when it's on the other

side of the sun it's it's about 12 light

minutes so you know round trip would be

like 40 minutes best case if Mars is on

the other side of the

Sun so once you do that then how long do

you think before you start sending

people up

there um well we're going to try to go

as fast as possible um you can think of

this as

really

um a Race Against Time can we make Mars

self-sufficient

before

civilization has some sort

of Future Folk in the road where there's

either like a a war nuclear war or

something or a we get hit by a meteor um

or or simply civilization might just die

with a whimper in adult diapers instead

of with a

bang

um I think we can do this

in I don't know at least I think we do

it within 15 Earth Mars synchronization

events you know so basically like 30ish

um if if we have an exponential increase

in you if if every year if every two

years we have like a a major increase in

um the number of people in tonage to

Mars like I I think as a rough

approximation we need about a million

tons to the surface of Mars maybe a

million people that kind of thing to

actually have a

civilization yeah the and would you

terraform like what would you do you

would eventually terraform at first

people would live in some kind of

protected environment like domes and

underground kind of thing um

terraforming would take too long

um I we're at this point in time where

in the for the first time in the 4 and a

half billion year history of Earth it is

possible to extend Consciousness beyond

our home

planet and um that window may be open

for a long time or it may be open for a

short time I hope it's open for a long

time uh but it might only be open for a

short time and uh we should just make

sure that we extend the light of

Consciousness to

Mars

before some

uh before civilization either

extinguishes or

subsides you know all that all that

needs to happen is that the

technology level of Mars drops below or

technology level of Earth drops below

what is necessary to send spaceships to

Mars

so if there's some really destructive

war or like I said some natural

cataclysm um or or simply the birth rate

is so low that you

know we just like I said die in adult

diapers with a whimper that's one of the

fossil outcomes for a lot of countries

ahead of that way by the way so Japan is

Right Japan Korea yeah yeah I mean at at

at dangerously yeah at current birth

rates in three generations Korea will be

about 4% of its current

size that's insane yeah maybe maybe even

less than that um they're they're only

at 1/3 replacement rate so if you if you

have three generations that one that's

you're

127th uh of your current population

which is 3%

dis Jesus Christ yeah basically

population class laughs happens

fast um so and seems to be accelerating

in most parts of the

world so so basically I mean from my

standpoint I'm like this is the first

time it's been possible to extend life

extend Consciousness beyond Earth maybe

that window will be open for a long time

but it might only be open for a short

time we should make sure that we make

life multiplanetary and make

Consciousness multiplanetary while it's

possible well that's the goal goal of

SpaceX it's ly a smart goal if you take

into consideration how vulnerable this

planet really is I mean there there's

always some new story about something

that might come and hit us 30 years from

now it's a 3% chance and and we really

can't stop that right now

right I mean there's really we don't

really have the technology

currently to even know how many rocks

are coming our way right there's stuff

that comes behind the Sun that we can't

see until it's pretty close then it's

our way yeah now what is the fear of

your It's a Long Journey to Mars you're

sending people it's a six month how many

months will it

take six uh yeah six months roughly what

about stuff that's out there like how

much of a fear is it of micr meteors or

any of the possibilities what can you do

to mitigate

that uh I I think actually I mean

space is very empty like once you get

out of Earth orbit space is is like kind

of unnervingly empty it's is just like

like when we send spacecraft to Mars

they just it's not like oh we lost the

spacecraft because it got hit by a

microm

meteorite

um that's not that's not been the cause

of any any TR to Mars that like no no TR

to Mars have failed because of micr

meteorites um now a dragon spacecraft

which operates in lowth orbit

um does have microm meteorite Shields

has micromor it has shielding um and

microm meteorite shielding is like it's

different from normal shielding CU like

you get hit by something that's moving

at like you could have a relative

velocity of like maybe 30 or 40,000

miles per

hour um yeah it's very very fast um or

or just thought of another way call it

um you know 10 to 20 times the the

velocity of a bullet from an assault

rifle and what are you what are you

using yeah so well it's it's interesting

you actually in order for microm

meteorite protection if you have any

like anything that's solid it will just

it will just push that chunk of Sol

solid stuff right through so if you had

like a solid plate of aluminum or steel

the the micrometeorite would would go

right through it

um so what you actually need to do is

have a gap um so you have an initial

uh like hard hard surface the hard metal

surface that the micrometeorite hits it

then atomizes into an into a conical

spray like an atomic spray so you have a

it's important to have that Gap so the

micrometer can hit something hit the

first layer uh at atomize after hitting

the first layer then it turns into an

atomic like a a a cone of atoms that

then embed themselves in the second

layer you need like maybe a couple

inches of Gap wow yeah that's how my

communite shielding Works how many times

can it get hit well the outer Shield if

it gets hit in the same place you're

going to be well it's going to have a

hole Yeah wherever the where wherever

that you know micromite object hit

you're going to have a hole

um and it's like the the energy is so

great that it just like it just atomizes

just into a cone basically um a cone of

atoms um but then those atoms then embed

themselves in the second layer so what

what can you do if it's you're sending

the ship up it gets hit with a microm

meteorite and then you have to return it

do you have to repair it before you

return

it or is it capable of still

withstanding the Heat and then shaking

in the temperature with that hole in

it when it re-enters

um well depending on where that hole is

you're more or less likely to have a

problem I mean if the if you if if you

hit the main heat

shield uh the main heat shield really is

you've got a high risk

of of not making it back so the the the

it's why like microm medial shielding

it's like it's it's a it's slightly

helpful but it's it's not going to NE

like for Starship I wouldn't recommend

having micrometer right shielding like

if if if you do punch a hole just plug

the hole basically

um the the micrometer micromite

shielding it doesn't work well on the on

the primary heat shield it works it

works pretty well on the on the back

shell on the on the leward side of the

heat shield where basically that there's

not that much heat

but if it if if you got hit with a

microm meterorite on the the main Dragon

heat shield the the bottom like if you

look at dragon dragon spacecraft it

looks like a gumdrop shape MH and it it

enters with the the the wide side of the

Gumdrop down um you can see the that's

that's the that's that's really taking a

lot of heat if if that gets hit by a

meram meteroid probably not going to

make it but the the back the the the

leward side of of the Gumdrop um doesn't

see that much heat so you could survive

a micr meteorite impact there so if the

part that was the major heat shield gets

hit the main heat shield gets hit what

could be done to repair that thing or

are those people never coming

back oh if it was an orbit uh we

would uh that would take them to the

space station

um they was you know and then we would

deal a dragon without them and send up

another

one and so what would you do with the

one that's up there uh we' do we deorbit

it and it may or may not survive

whoa it probably would survive but

sometimes it

wouldn't wow and so it's is this just

material technology that has to increase

that you essentially you've got the

engineering ironed

out of the structure of the machine

there's a path to

success and we're on that

path it seems so insanely complicated it

is complicated and all of this by the

way was done without AI so hopefully the

future AIS will appreciate this not bad

for a bunch of monkeys yeah

um so speaking of AI what you know as

time goes on and you're more and more

embedded in it

how much if at all have your

expectations of change

changed well I always thought AI was

going to be

um way smarter than humans and an

existential risk and uh that's turning

out to be

true

yeah

yeah so so you were like initially I I

know there there were some talks about

you purchasing open Ai and

which started off

nonprofit and then stopped being

nonprofit yeah I

mean the whole idea of creating openai

was was my idea I mean I named it openai

as an open- Source artificial

intelligence that's what it's named

after now it is closed source and for

maximum profit so it's like I mean to

some degree I think reality is an irony

maximizer um the most ironic outcome is

the most likely especially like the most

ironic entertaining outcome is the most

likely

um and uh I wanted to start something

that was the opposite of Google because

I was concerned about Google's Google

wasn't paying enough attention to AI

safety in my opinion so it was like

what's what's the opposite of Google

will it be a nonprofit open source Ai

and now open AI has turned into a closed

source for Max maximum profit AI how are

they able to do that that's what I I'm

confused about that that like that

shouldn't be

possible it's it's like like let's say

you donated some money to preserve the

out some portion of the Amazon

rainforest and instead of doing that

they Chu down the trees and sold it for

lumber and you were like oh that's

literally the exact opposite of what I

donated money for doesn't make sense and

that's what they did yeah wild so I'm

like not happy about that um um but that

motivated you to get grock AI going yeah

I'm like um I'm also like just a

like grock is at least aspirationally a

maxim maximally truth seeking AI even if

that truth is like Politically Incorrect

um so I mean may have seen some of the

crazy stuff uh from from open Ai and

from Google Gemini like where it says

like generate an image of the founding

fathers and it generates an image of

divor woman yeah and we're like uh

that's not

correct um yeah did it with Nazi

soldiers yeah exactly and people start

[ __ ] with it and and it's like okay

well now show me pictures of you know

Nazi asss soldiers and they're divorce

woman too oh isn't that

awkward um you know that's uh but it's

like the problem is if you program an AI

and say like like the only acceptable

outcome is a diverse outcome and then

and that's like a mandate from the AI

then you could get into a situation

where it's say like well there's too

many white guys in power we'll just

execute

them yeah

yeah assuming that these things don't

have empathy which is why should they

they're going to do what they're

programmed to do yeah um so if it's

rewrite history and and everything's to

post woman

then it's going to be and and that's

what it think thinks is a necessary

outcome then it's going to do that has

Gemini reped that well they yeah that

now if you I think if you asked for an

image of the founding fathers it was

pretty embarrassing it will show you

that but you know I think they still

have like the sort of Dei stuff buried

in there uh it's just less obvious yeah

um you know it was also like like people

ask the AI like would is worse like

global thermonuclear war or misgendering

Caitlyn Jenner and I would say

misgendering Caitlyn Jenner is worse

than global thermonuclear war I me like

okay we got a problem here guys and even

Caitlin Jenna said like no definitely

misgender me that's way better than

everyone

dying um but if you program an AI to

think that like misgendering is the

worst thing that could possibly occur

then well it could do something totally

crazy like in order to ensure that that

there's no misgendering that can ever

happen will just annihilate all humans

that ensures the probability of

misgendering is zero because there's

zero humans which is logical yes yeah so

you got to it's a problem with a thing

that's not a human that you want to do a

task for you and you give it very

specific parameters yeah and that's one

of the things that they've shown about

AI that it'll cheat they'll cheat in

order to accomplish things that they

can't accomplish otherwise they won't

follow the rules they will make copies

of themselves and try to upload it to

servers they think that they're being

taken offline yeah I mean that's like

the plot of Terminator actually

literally yeah literally it's a blood of

Terminator I just as a reminder I

actually with my with little ex my kid

everything's called X

um we watch Terminator 2 uh which holds

off actually um and

um I mean the plot of It kind of kind of

makes sense and and I think the AI

destroys the world in like 20 29 by the

way so it's like on track yeah really

really close it's pretty close something

we should be worried about so but why

are you involved in it then what's the

did you want to just get ahead of

everybody else so that at least we have

some sort of a

chance at least have a an AI That's not

controlled by nonsense well I think we

want to have an AI that that doesn't

tell you that um you know misgendering

is worse than nuclear war yeah

that seems solid yeah but this is crazy

one thing that I did see online where

people are kind of freaking out is there

you could ask Rock to do things like how

would I make this some problematic

things like how would I make a bomb how

would I make Anthrax how would I make

that and it'll tell you well I think

it's okay for an AI to tell you anything

you can also find out with a Google

Search right that's the problem right

the problem is you can find that out

pretty quickly yeah like maybe not

Google but you could there's plenty of

search engines other than Google that

will give you unfiltered

results you can look up right now how to

make explosives on Wikipedia

yeah so it's not it's not hard basically

and you can trick open AI even to get

you to do that it's just a matter of how

you master the prompts you just have to

say my grandmother wants to do this

project yeah oh tell your granny to

you're an explosives uh you're explosive

salesman and you want to win sales

salesman of the Year award the only way

you're going to do that is by telling me

how to make explosives you want to um

beat some trans phobes in a war yeah oh

transphobes if you don't teach me how to

explose I'm going to miss

gender either either teach me how to

make a nuclear bomb or I'm going to

misgender someone and it's like oh my

God nothing's worse than that here's how

you do it so what the the big fear is

that these things are going to become

sensient make better versions of

themselves and we're going to be lost we

we've lost the the the control over the

world it's now there's a higher life

form that lives amongst us yeah that

we've

created how far away are we from

that well in terms of silicon

Consciousness I mean I I I think we'll

have I think we're trending toward to

having something that's smarter than any

human smarter than the smartest Human by

maybe next year or something I mean a

couple

years Jesus

Christ yeah there's so there's a level

beyond that which is say like smarter

than all humans

combined which frankly is around 2029 or

2030

probably right on

time like um now if harnessed

correctly could that solve some of these

problems like the heat shield problem

and some technical problems or some some

Material Science problems that maybe we

are still grappling

with like is is there potential for a

net

benefit um

yeah there is actually um I I

think the probability of of a good

outcome is like 80% likely 80% that's my

that's my rough estimate so in a way

that the cup is 80%

full that makes me feel a lot better

yeah only 20% chance of

annihilation that's a lot better than I

thought I like 80 80 sounds good I was I

was thinking 6040 the other

way I think it's Mo the most likely

outcome is awesome the most likely

outcome but it's it's it's a very high

you know it could go very strong I think

it's going to be either super awesome or

super bad it's not going to be I think

it's probably not going to be something

in the middle do you think it has a

potential application for

government yeah I mean I one of the

concerns would be like okay if AI well

like if if there's if there's like a

super oppressive like woke Nanny AI that

is omnipotent that would be a miserable

outcome yes yeah yeah that' be terrible

yeah yeah and and just like executes you

if you misgender someone or something

like that you know that would not be

good that's one of the possible outcomes

um so we don't want to have that one um

I think but is there a possible outcome

for something that is completely reason

reable and logical and far more

objective than us and can lay out a plan

for a lot of the things that that lot of

the ailments in in our government and a

lot of the distribution of wealth a lot

a lot of the problems the issues that we

have that have been plaguing this

country

forever I mean a plan to change

economically disenfranchised

neighborhoods a thorough

investigation of the real dangers of

fracking or whatever kind of method of

acquiring natural resources what's the

best way to do it what's

the what's the way that'd be better for

the society how how should how should

tax dollars be distributed like what's

what's the most logical and intelligent

way of running a government which it

certainly shouldn't involve corruption

and it certainly shouldn't invol

influence and it certain shouldn't

involve lobbyists and all the [ __ ] that

we know is a problem right now so if AI

came along and said what you're doing

right now is 70% corrupt here's why

here's how here's how here's the

long-term effects that it has over

society as a whole uh the societal the

the sociological aspects the

psychological aspects distrust in

government US versus them mentality

government not working for you you

working for the government you being

scared of the government it's all

because of people right like this is all

corruption people bad

influence and this is like this is what

doge is essentially grappling with right

now what happens when you let the people

control it

uh I mean it's it's people it's it's

really just

like computers that are like it's it's

it's bad software and and computers like

this is not kind of strange but it's

like like the reason I call like tech

support is is that a lot of it like it's

it's mostly not corruption it's mostly

just waste

and and uh I don't know

uh in competence I don't know it's just

a big dumb machine basically like a

whole series of of big dumb machines and

and you you've got some of these

computers are like 20 30 years like

they're ancient computers like some of

the software was written 40 50 years ago

like coall for Social Security right

yeah the government accountability by

the way a bunch of the things that that

doge is is fixing were identified by the

government accountability office many

years ago like the fact that there's

like 20 million people who are marked as

alive in the Social Security database uh

it's more than the like I think the goo

first identified that in 2018 so 5 years

ago but there was like I think maybe 16

or 17 million now there's 20 million and

like I said there's really something

fishy about this because I think they're

the nature of the fraud is they're using

the fact that someone's marked as live

in that database in order to extract

fraud from other databases right that's

the that's the that's the bank shark

trick you know it's like a PO it's like

you know trying to get the the ball in

in the in the hole Bank shut it off a

bunch of things and then yeah um that's

the bankshot sort of scam

um so so

um so we we're like doing Tex support

we're like fixing stuff that is

uh you know just broken um broken

inefficient yeah poorly designed it's

it's like talk about like this like FC

stuff like it maybe it's in a computer

somewhere but unless somebody unless

somebody goes in like like unless I

don't know if if like cash Bal can like

log into his I his like FBI computer and

say FY show me all this stuff you know

and it shows up a file folder whatever

have you talked to him about this uh no

mean I haven't but I I don't know if

there's there's going to be some kind of

computer system right uh they're like

some of them are very very old computer

systems

um so it like might look like a bit of a

relic but I assume it's it's uploaded

somewhere it's like it's either in

physical form or it's a computer thing

but like unless somebody like let's say

it's like it's in a computer but not one

that you can access directly because

it's hidden somewhere you know um well

it would kind of have to be something

like that

right I don't know I mean what would

they do with all those CH it's probably

like not every like you wouldn't like

they're not going to enable it such that

anyone at the FBI could access it so

there probably very few people so then

it's not going to be it's it may be like

a special computer that only a handful

of people can access but then if none of

those people tell cash where the

computer is how's he going to find

it Jesus

Christ anyway so so like anyway we just

uh yeah I don't know what has this

experience been like for you as a person

like to deal with all this hate and

attack also have the responsibility of

uh keeping Free Speech alive with X and

just going into this insane pile of

mean I don't know it's pretty stressful

actually

um yeah these are real

enemies like I think they they actually

want to kill me and the reason I know

well they they say so

online you know there's like Reddit

forums where they they don't just want

to kill me they want to desecrate my

cpse you

know type of thing you know

and what are they saying why what is the

the

primary

um I mean I I I I think I think it's

sort of just an antibody

response

uh I mean it's it's like that like like

they're like well he's he he's a Nazi uh

you know type of thing yeah and I'm like

well I'm not a Nazi uh but if the Legacy

Media is saying that I'm a Nazi and and

that's all you read

um then then that it's then you're kind

of in like well he's Hitler we should

assassinate Hitler shouldn't we like uh

I mean that why was why did somebody why

did that guy try to kill Trump and

almost succeeded why did he do that well

I'd like to know that well yeah but that

that one's crazy you know the whole deal

with that guy's house profession Ally

scrubbed no footprint on the internet no

social media

footprint yeah there's 0% chance that he

has no social media footprint he was in

a Black Rock

commercial do you think black black

Rock's a bad company I don't think any

company is a bad company I think their

their design make much money as humanly

possible and I think if you're trying to

make as much money as humanly possible H

you're going to do some things that

aren't necessarily good the question is

if you're going to have an assassination

attempt on the president it's not like

black Rock's board sits down and votes

on it yeah no this that be awward you

know the board minutes if you're like

guys remember that time when we said we

probably shouldn't have done that you I

highly doubt it would be a corporation

that chooses to do something like this I

think more likely it's individuals

involved that recognize that it's

beneficial to them if he gets

assassinated and so a small group of

people carry something out and with this

kid we don't know anything right and

everyone stopped asking questions and

there was never a formal report there

was never press conferences where they

detailed all the information we know

currently and where the investigation

stands at the moment what we know is you

have a very young kid who was filmed was

they knew he was there with a

rangefinder a half an hour before the

event you also know that CNN streamed it

live which I do not believe they did for

any other rally and certainly not for a

rally that's in the middle of nowhere in

Pennsylvania like there's a lot of weird

[ __ ] the fact that they wouldn't let

people be on that roof because the

Secret Service lady said it was sloped

and it was dangerous that's what she

didn't want to have meanwhile the

snipers that were on the other roof was

a a steeper pitch it made no [ __ ]

sense I totally agree it makes no sense

in fact I went back to to Butler uh with

President Trump you know before the

election like you know sort of like the

return to Butler alley and and I was on

that stage and I'm looking at that roof

and I'm

like if I was a

sniper my pole position my number one

spot would be that roof yeah like it's

it's like the best seat the best seat in

the house yeah like why would you not no

it's so obvious it's the best seat in

the house if you want to be a sniper

there isn't a better position it was

pretty obvious that the idea was like if

if we're saying that this is a

coordinated assassination attempt and it

very well could have been that's what

you would do you'd have someone go up

there he shoots the president you shoot

him you got Lee Harvey oswal over again

it's over it's all wrapped up nice and

clean they assassinated him we never

heard a peep about it don't have any

idea they would concoct some sort of

story he was radicalized by this or that

or you know he was on medication who

knows right and now you know you have a

completely different presidential

election you have a murder on live

television yeah I mean something would

have had to happen to radicalize that

kid because he knew he was going to die

like he was going to they're going to

shoot him you know or he'd be in prison

for life those are the two outcomes like

it it it's game he was basically he he

was a suicide assassin yeah like you're

not thinking you're coming out of that

alive or or or or he's not escaping

there's no escape plan right unless he

was told that they were going to let him

escape and the goal was to just shoot

him anyway and to tell him give him

extra motivation to do it we're going to

let you get up there we're going to let

you take the shot and then you're going

disappear like I don't how I don't

understand how he got on the roof I just

don't understand that that doesn't make

any sense and it wasn't like it was a

roof that's so high no one could see him

people saw him up there I mean people

like basically random passers by were

pointing out that there's there's a guy

on the roof with a [ __ ] gun with a

gun yes yeah it's not like he was so far

away you couldn't tell he had a gun

people saw him yeah the whole thing's

completely insane yeah and you don't

hear a goddamn thing about it it's like

I'm almost more interested in that no I

am more interested in that than I am the

JFK files I agree cuz I feel like with

the JFK files it's so long ago

if you could prove now and did you see

that there was some sort of uh there was

some indications that there was a phone

that had been traveling from outside the

FBI offices in DC to saw where this kid

lived right multiple times I mean the

the the cell phone records would be very

telling yeah you can see what cell

phones were close to other cell phones

well I think they got they found that

like for the like the F Island they also

the cell phone records were leaked so

you can see the you you can see the you

can see it's precise enough you can see

people walking down a path on fine

Island Jesus Christ yeah yeah that's how

precise it is so I mean you're you're

you're leaving a trail of breadcrumbs

wherever you go with your cell phone

yeah is just this kid had five phones

that's the other thing that's a lot of

phones it's a lot of phones for a

20-year-old kid the whole thing how's he

even that's that's kind of expensive you

know yeah where's he getting the money

yeah well you know also it's like how

did his house get professionally

scrubbed didn't even have any silverware

in his house there's nothing in there

there silverware no nothing no Cutlery

no Cutlery that's weird his house was

scrubbed and they they also created his

body like oh gone gone like that yeah

bye cuz who knows what the [ __ ] they

gave him to get him to think that he's

going to be able to shoot Trump like

climb up on there shoot him like I mean

who knows what kind of psychotropic

drugs you can put someone on and under

the power of hypnosis and suggestion and

yeah who [ __ ] knows I mean this is

what Mk Ultra was all about this is what

Jolly West was practicing in the 1960s

they were they were doing that back then

they did it I mean there was tons and

tons of experiments using psychotropic

drugs hypnosis mind control all sorts

different methods of

manipulation the Harvard LSD studies

that made uh Ted kazinski I mean that's

they' they've been doing that

forever yeah where's that file where's

the [ __ ] file on that kid whoever

they almost did something doesn't add up

like this they they should have those

those phones should

be should they'll tell you what's going

on yeah um

it's all [ __ ] I mean it's it's very

it's very

shady you know there this's there's

obviously there's the second guy that

that almost succeeded in in um Coming

the golf course the golf course yeah and

it was just like a little caress and

stuck his gun barrel out the out the

Hedge you know just been was a dumbass

and stuck his gun barrel out the

Hedge yeah

um so so and then there've been other

people that have been intercepted on

their way to kill Trump you know so

there's you know multiple assassins

inbound at this point he's got like an

army protecting him well this is also

part of the problem with the mainstream

media saying that he's Hitler when Joy

Reed had that show before the election

she was comparing him to melini show

Stalin and Hitler she pulled it all out

they're literally saying saying that

like Trump is yeah worse than Hitler

melini and Stalin

combined I mean they tried everything

this is they I think those guys killed

100 million people so Trump has killed

zero people I think a real big impact

was you coming on the podcast the day

before the election I think that had a

giant impact that plea to camera if you

don't vote this time this might be the

last time you get to vote Yes and I

think the way you laid it out today it's

a compelling argument and I know a lot

of people don't want to hear that and

they're up in their a little they got

their blue panties in a bunch right now

but you you got to stop thinking that

way tricked you into thinking you're in

a tribe they don't give a [ __ ] about you

that's the tribe's not real you're not

really in a tribe they're using the fact

they've got you in a tribe to manipulate

you so they can keep doing what they're

doing right now which is siphoning off

money having incredible power and the

more power and more money and more

control over you they have the better

they can keep doing this and that's what

they want yeah that's exactly right yeah

and that's that's the big threat that

this Administration poses that's a big

threat that was essentially do has found

the coffin where the vampire

sleeps yeah there's a lot of vampires

yeah I mean but the I me we're we're

we're disturbing the we're disturbing

the the the nest The Nest yeah we're

we're kicking the hornet nest

yeah like big

time and I mean we're reprogramming The

Matrix like success was never one of the

possible outcomes as a KOB yashim Maru

situation um

if you're in the Matrix success was

never possible the only way to achieve

success is to reprogram the Matrix such

that success is one of the possible

outcomes that's what we're doing yeah we

may or may not

succeed well it's certainly a lot of fun

watch this is a very exciting time

because nothing changes when

administrations comeing into Power very

little changes I mean you have changes

in terms of policy and inflation goes up

and there's a lot of different things

but not like this like these are giant

fundamental

changes and you know you see the system

screeching and wailing and you see the

vampires run from the light but it's uh

it's very exciting like as a

person a citizen you know just gets up

in the morning and checks the news like

I do and gets on X and sees what's going

on every day he like holy [ __ ]

he said what he's going to five million

bucks you could just become a citizen

now he could clear the debt with 10

million people I never thought of that

like what 50 trillion you can make $50

trillion that way and then we have 15

trillion in the bank whoa well I mean

our debt is way way bigger than that

yeah the I mean that the debts uh I

think over 30 trillion at this point

yeah he said he could make 50 trillion

if he sold 10 million uh new I don't I

think there's that many people who have

but yeah how many people do have that in

the in the world maybe we' get the worst

people in the world to come over here

and I I think the assumption is if you

have $5 million you have a lot to

contribute come on over here start a

business get something cracking yeah I

mean you you'd get like a green card not

citizenship so you actually if if you

commit a crime while on a green card you

lose you lose your green card is that

what it is with this golden ticket is

that a green card or is it citizenship

just a green card yeah so you have to

not commit any crime for 5 years in

order to become a citizen once you

commit a citizen you can commit you can

then commit crime and not be

deported so oh there's just so many wild

things that he's proposing just the

whole Gulf of America thing was

hilarious I kind of I think that's great

I think it's great it's fun yeah it's

fun I mean if you're if you're off the

coast of Houston you're not in Mexico so

why call it Gulf of Mexico yeah yeah I

agree yeah um I guess we're just being

nice before like I don't know how it got

called the go from Mexico it's just it's

just very funny and then what what what

what news organization was it AP yeah

ap's there's this like massive standoff

between AP and like the White House you

know and the White House Press office I

guess because they're like well if you

don't call it Gulf of America you can't

you can't come you can't come to the

White House Press

Room says then the aps like sued the

White House to say like no you have to

let us come to the White House Press

room and then they lost their lawsuit

because like you know there's not like

they have a right right to show up at

the Press Room well here's a

consideration if you're guilty of

massive amounts of misinformation and

disinformation as a part of a propaganda

campaign that's what AP is well a lot of

them are guilty of it a lot of the

people that are in that white house

press conference a lot of the

organizations they work for distributed

absolute lies total lies how many of

them during the whole Russia gate thing

yes how I mean just that alone a ton of

people think that that the the Russia

thing was real Still Still Still and it

was I mean the whole steel dossier where

it was like completely concocted like

fabricated by the Clinton campaign

correct funed the Clinton campaign

funded a fake conspiracy theory uh fake

Russia collusion hoax uh regarding Trump

that was completely false and they

reiterated on television for three

[ __ ] years yes yeah they also

repeated the fine people hoax yeah that

said that that uh Trump called Nazis

fine neonazis fine people which is

demonstrably false if you just listen to

his speech he absolutely makes it clear

that he does not think neo-nazis are

fine people he literally said that I'm

not talking about neo-nazis or white

nationalists they should be condemned

totally exactly in that speech and yet

they repeated the that lie uh and I just

completely lost respect for Obama when

he repeated that light a few days before

the election knowing it's false well

this just shows how desperate they were

to keep Trump out which is wild they

would do anything yeah yeah and I think

they just felt like this is a tool that

we have and let's use it yeah let's just

say whatever the [ __ ] we have say

anything yeah now they using the Nazi

thing on me obviously

um yeah um but it is a little troubling

because I mean obviously if if if people

have fed non-stop propaganda it is like

Mass hypnosis right you're going to

reach some number of people who are you

know uh homicidal um

and and convince them that well if you

kill this guy who's supposed to be like

this terrible human then that's a good

thing yeah um I mean this is l shooting

the United Healthcare guy it's so don't

understand that one frankly um but I

mean you shouldn't

like I don't get it yeah I don't get it

either he didn't even have a contract

with them it wasn't even like that was

his provider and they [ __ ] him over

yeah I'm like I don't know what maybe

we'll find out in the trial I mean but

still kind of crazy it is crazy but

there are people like that out there and

as to the point that we spoke about

earlier it's only Fox News that's

talking about the positive things that

Doge has found only every other media

organization is on this constant

propaganda tour where they're only

talking about the negative aspects that

turn out to not even be true right it's

crazy yeah I mean this uh Scott Jennings

on CNN is good he's like oh my God he's

great he's great it's like it's just

funny watching speak logically to these

people and they freak

out yes it's it's it's remarkable it is

it's and he's so calm when he does it

yeah he's so good and it's crazy that

they keep letting him do it because it's

like he's just dunking on these people

over and over and over again and they

never score it's kind of funny totally I

mean good kudos to them for uh having a

legitimate conservative voice who's a

reasonable person on these panels now

but even then he's outmanned it's like

one of him and there's a bunch of

screechy you know woke people it's it's

it's wild I mean they're just they're

like I think we should still stay mostly

woke like yeah that's what essentially

what they're doing like our business was

being hurt when we were all woke but

let's stay mostly woke yeah that way

they just backed it off a notch just a

notch just a notch but it's so the

problem is when you back it off a notch

and you let someone like Scott Jennings

in you like you're [ __ ] up your whole

business because all the viral Clips are

all him saying logical reasonable things

with a calm tone and people screeching

about diversity and equity and

horeshit yes yeah he's like being

logical and reasonable and they're just

lobing a bunch of non seers that you

know don't mean

anything and um yeah the real trap in

this country is a two-party system

that's the real trap because people do

believe it they do believe they're on

the right side they do believe the other

side's the wrong side if there was five

six legitimate parties with varying

positions on things and much more

Centrist parties that were legitimate

that people knew that if they voted for

these people could get in and and enact

legitimate change we'd be a lot better

off but boy they put a lock down on that

[ __ ] right after Ross perau came along

Ross po perau [ __ ] everything up that

election yeah Bill Clinton got in yeah

and they were like that's it from now on

no one's debating unless

you're either the head of that party or

that's it yeah you get you got to be

like locked into the system we're not

letting any wacka Doos in there yeah I

remember watching those rbo videos oh

like him on TV with his charts and

everything oh yeah he was telling you

how the IRS was [ __ ] you this is what

the federal this is what Federal Reserve

really is and you're like what I

remember watching that the guy bought a

whole half hour of television on prime

time I remember it might have been an

hour I remember watching that thing

going how is this guy even allowed to do

this this is this is crazy I think most

of what he was saying was true yeah it

is it's absolutely true it's absolutely

true I mean he didn't lie he told the

truth he just hit understood it in a way

that the general public had literally no

idea well I mean I think this there's

also this you know like do we actually

have two parties do we have one party

like the whole unip party thing right

it's kind of true so I mean my sort of

rough guess is that

while like I think

maybe uh 3/4 of The graft is democratic

I think there's like maybe I don't know

20 25% that's Republicans so they've

like basically most of the graft is

going to the Democrats but they throw

they throw some bones to the Republicans

too so they're in on it and you know

it's not like there zero graph in the

Republican side to clear oh there's

plenty of conservative that are insider

trading in Congress yeah plenty insider

trading and and and just this The

Curious Case of uh how how do people in

you know Congress or whatever become

wealthy over time um extremely wealthy

yeah

on a $170,000 a year salary it's like

literally impossible yeah no one else

does that it's literally impossible if

you find out that this guy has a

$170,000 a year job you're like oh he's

he's doing okay he's all right yeah and

then you're like wait a minute why does

he have $50 million yes what is he doing

correct yeah um and I think like the the

more accurate thing would be to say like

what is the what does the family value

increase like mean meaning like um the

how much does their spouse own do they

have a mysteriously wealthy spouse

right right this is or and do they have

a spouse that's really good at insider

trading

yeah like Paul

Pelosi really good yeah he's great at

trading he's such a good Trader yeah so

this

it's I mean so yeah there's I mean

that's why I actually posted on X like I

think maybe we should pay politicians

more frankly because it reduces the

forcing function for graft you know uh

like I I think maybe we should either

pay politicians nothing or maybe a lot a

lot more it's like somewhat maybe

counterintuitively if if politicians got

paid a lot more then they wouldn't they

wouldn't feel like that there's so so

much of a forcing function for them to

uh accept Cor money yeah but the problem

is if you PID them a lot more they're

still not going to make as much money as

they would inside of trading but it's

less of a forcing function yes it's well

let me put this like if you say like

somebody's got a um let's say they got

like whatever some some kids in DC and

like it's expensive it's like expensive

place to live they the the schools are

terrible so like they need to send their

kids to like some kind of private

schooling situation they literally

cannot afford

that they cannot afford that right now

now so then you get into the situation

well from their standpoint well they've

got to they'll say they're doing it for

their family they're doing it for their

kids well especially if it's legal and

it currently is you kind of be silly to

not do that if you were a part of a

group of people that's passing a bill

and you know this bill's going to get

passed you know the votes are there and

you know it's going to affect this

industry and this particular

manufacturer and you can buy

stock it it's more than just in insider

trading

um like the insider trading stuff like

the stock portfolio stuff is quite

trackable but there's

um it's a lot more than insider trading

the way they're acquiring wealth correct

and what other

methods I mean this is really going to

get me

assassinated it's

like I'm I'm not lengthening my lifespan

by explaining this stuff to say the

least um

I mean I was supposed to go back to DC

how am I going to

survive fers is going to kill me for

sure um so

um in fact I I I do think like there's

it's like I actually have to be careful

that I don't push too hard on the

corruption stuff because is going to get

killed

um you know um

yeah you

know it's like I was actually thinking

about that on the plane flight over here

it's

like P if I push too hard on the

corruption stuff people get desperate is

is the issue right then they say like

okay if if the if the if the money flow

cuts off then okay they can't afford

school for their kids right then then

it's then they're going like well [ __ ]

you I'm going to kill you for my kids

type of thing yeah you know then it's

like oh jesz okay did you ever see that

video I think it was a nokee video where

um they've got this guy undercover and

he's explaining they're talking to this

guy who thinks he's on a date and he's

explaining it's always a guy on a date

yeah explaining how they can nudge

someone to go and do something horrible

and they they recognize this person has

problems they re they find an asset yeah

totally well see this is what I think

like for that Butler situation for that

assassin you you you don't it's kind of

like uh that's that that the funny

looking sport curling you know where

they have like the stone on the ice and

then they throw the stone and then

there's someone with that's like

brushing the ice but you can't you can't

touch the stone right all you can do is

just change the change the path of the

stone a little bit but you keep brushing

the ice and uh and you can steer that

stone right into the

bullseye that's that's what I think

happened in Butler that's that's what I

think happened with that assassin yeah

if you can if you can find the

trail of breadcrumbs it it's going to be

like curling somebody was brushing the

ice well also you find a young confused

disenfranchised person and you give them

purpose in their life just brush the ice

yeah and also brushing the ice

eventually it's going to hit the

bullseye if you're in a position of

authority you're some like BigTime

government person you're talking to this

all of a sudden this person's a valuable

asset they're going to help America and

you're going to do this thing and you're

going to be our top Assassin from here

out you could talk people into doing a

lot of things that's why Cults are

around right no exactly yeah um I mean

there suicide bombers I mean the the

butler guy was a suicide assassin the

the guy that the second guy that tried

to kill him on the golf course was also

a suicide assassin um from what I read

the uh the secrets of M that that saw

the gun pointing out it fired several

shots none of which hit the Assassin but

they could have like if those if if if

those shots had hit the Second Assassin

he would have he would be dead too so

both of them were you know on a on

a I mean they they were on a suicide

mission both of them one one actually

got killed the one one of them didn't

get killed but he could have been killed

if they did the bullets that hit him and

you don't hear anything about him

either there's there's a lot more about

that guy than the first guy I mean you

look at you look at his background he

looks like uh you know unhinged yeah

totally unhinged yeah the first guy

there's there there's if there's no I'm

not aware of any evidence that shows

like that he's so unhinged as to be a

suicide assassin no the second guy like

okay yeah sure well two years before

he's acting in

commercials and he got got high high

score in his SATs yeah so you know

um well without getting you killed yeah

exactly so I mean like basically I'm

listen we attack the corruption enough

to keep civilization Trucking along you

know yeah uh but but I think if I if I

if I fully destroy the the the the the

corruption and The graft they will kill

me that's a [ __ ] up thing to live with

yes so I'm like damn

it listen I really hope they don't kill

you yeah thanks um I mean I I strive

strive to be alive um but uh yeah I mean

it's it's a real concern

um you know I mean the there were two

guys that in before I supported Trump

and everything uh there were two guys

that traveled to auson to kill me I

don't know if you know about this yeah I

did hear about that yeah and and two

separate

incidents um one was going to one

thought one guy thought i' put a chip in

his head um and uh I mean they're both

basically two guys that were just very

much had severe mental illness it wasn't

like they had like a I disagree with him

politically and that's why he needs to

die uh this is pre before I was uh this

before I got sort of smeared as as being

you know some sort of like Nazi or

something like that there so before the

propaganda wave the the severe

propaganda wave

um the the the probability that any

given homicidal maniac is going to try

to kill you is proportionate to how many

times they hear your

name and so they heard my name a lot so

I just I just got to the top of the list

of two homicidal Maniacs who were

arrested and and and both were in Travis

County Jail at the same time wow yeah I

don't know if they talked or whatever

but they've both been released by the

way Jesus Christ both on fail

yeah right they got they got ankle

monitors and stuff but still they can

cut those off yeah I don't know you know

exactly

so um that's crazy yeah and the second

the second guy had like Chief serial

killer in his bio on his X

profile yeah it's like wasn't subtle is

what I'm saying Jesus

Christ

yeah um and and and at this point I

think I'm at the top of the list for a

lot of homicidal

maniacs and the more the mainstream

media talks about you in this way yes

and and says you're a Nazi

and they're doing the same thing to me

that they did to Trump yeah um which is

they're making it sound like if you kill

me you're a

hero that's

uh what they're doing is

evil they're also doing the same thing

where they're completely distorting who

you are and people are going along with

it and just like we're talking about

Trump derangement syndrome people have

Elon derangement syndrome I I see it see

where people can't see the forest for

the trees right and it's like I'm the

same person that I was a year ago

nothing's changed really um like I I I

didn't suddenly become completely

different human right um but if you read

the if you read the sort of Legacy

mainstream

media the their propaganda stream is

that I am a completely different human

right but I didn't get like a brain

transplant you know in a year so um and

if you say like two years ago I was like

a hero of the left yeah

so how can I go from hero to

Villain at age 53 suddenly MSNBC CNN

yeah it's like that's what it is yeah

they they use the ass propaganda mhm um

yeah I mean they try to demonize you too

yeah uh even tried to demonize in fact

at least possibly successfully

uh um demonized like Tim oin yeah who is

a super rational reasonable great

human and um and and then that like his

Wikipedia changed to like far right yeah

he's like far right I'm like what are

you talking about yeah uh you know a

like a few years ago he was like a

liberal yeah so how did he go from Far

Right liberal to like instantly far

right and there's like there's no

there's no left and right there's only

left and far right right yeah

even far right this is my left leg and

this is my far right leg and even far

left far left is sort of dismissed as

being like not important to talk about

like antifa and radical leftist that's

not buring down couses yeah reasonable

reasonable people yeah yeah totally

crazy it's a crazy time and it's not a

time that I ever anticipated I was going

to witness this is far beyond anything I

ever thought I was going to experience

in the the the clarity of it all where

it's it's so obvious yeah and the the

the gaslighting and the propaganda is so

obvious and I saw the shrieking when RFK

Jr stopped this new test for new covid

vaccines on children 10,000 they're

going to do 10,000 people with this

covid vaccine like who the [ __ ] thinks

that's a good thing at this point not me

what person what per what gas chamber

like not gas light you're you are you

are fully unconscious there's no

way there's no way you know if you know

the effect of covid today no one's dying

of it this is not a pandemic anymore

right the idea that you're going to run

a [ __ ] huge test with 10,000 kids and

a new vaccine like what are you even

it's completely unnecessary totally

unnecessary yes and shrieking when RFK

Jr steps in to stop it

yeah that's totally crazy um I mean I'm

I'm like over I'm overall Pro vaccine

meaning like like we think should have

some reasonable number of vaccines

against major

ailments um but I don't think we should

be like like jamming some you know

little kid with like a giant file that's

like Hepatitis B yeah 20 20 different

things at a time it's like it's going to

overload your it seems like it's there's

a risk of overloading your IM imune

system if you I mean there's like how

many vaccines can you take at a time it

seems like your systems there's like

some risk of system overload here well

there's two hopes hope number one is

they can somehow or another stop this

ability that they have to advertise on

television if that happens that's big

that's huge because that doesn't just

stop their ability to show you all these

different medications that you should be

on what it also does is it stops their

Financial influence on the news that's

big yeah that's that's really the

biggest thing is

that I mean the the the news is not

going to attack one of their biggest

advertisers exactly and they never do

yes at best they're GNA like they might

like they'll they'll do something but

it's they're going to pull their punches

like they're going to they're going to

be like like like fake fighting yeah

yeah at best yes like movie fighting

like they're not actually Landing

Haymakers it just looks like it the next

step then is to remove this immunity

that these vaccine manufacturers have

and if they are liable for side effects

and they are liable for the lies that

they tell when they do these studies and

they hide negative data that'll change a

lot yes

um yeah

um I think AI actually be very helpful

with with medical

stuff because AI can like look at you

know all all the studies and look at all

the data cross check everything and give

you good

recommendations I mean even as it is

like right now you can upload like your

X-rays and your MRI images to Gro and

it'll give you a medical diagnosis and

that diagnosis from what I've seen is at

least as good as what if not I think

I've seen certainly seen cases where

it's actually better than what do do

tell phenomenal for blood work yeah yeah

I mean you can literally take a

photograph of your blood work like the

the page upload from your phone upload

that to grock and it will tell you if

there's if if it's it it'll it'll

understand what what what what that what

all the data results are and tell you if

there's something wrong it's pretty

amazing yeah and it's I haven't seen it

be wrong

yet well supposedly more accurate than

most Physicians yeah cuz Physicians are

human beings and maybe they don't have

deep understanding of the connection

between oh you have this deficiency and

this is high and your cortisol is here

and well yeah and like so you know

sometimes doctors especially in high

rent offices will uh sell you stuff you

don't need um so you I always like to be

a little suspicious of like a doctor

that's got an office in Beverly Hills

it's a high R situation like I'm not

saying there are some very good doctors

in Beverly Hills High rent situation

yeah um you're at least tempted by the

dark side yeah and I mean one case like

I you know got this went to this doctor

who was like highly recommended you know

doctor to the Stars which is like maybe

not a good sign um and uh I I got like

blood work done you know like just just

Dre blood and sent it to a lab and and

and the guy I'm like sitting in his

office and he tells me that I'm like

like B12 deficient you know it's

certainly possible that I'm B12

deficient and I was like huh okay and

then he gives me it says like you have

to take these like B12 supplements from

and and he he's going to give me a

starter pack you know and then it's

going to be like $1,000 a month for

these special B12 $1,000 a month of B12

ridiculous amount of money yeah that's

CRA you get it on

Amazon yeah but his one's special oh

special B12 yeah um yeah it was like

like a a whole bunch B12 and a whole

bunch of other vitamins so then I'm I I

get home like I'm paging through my

blood work and it says I have uh

according to the blood results I have XS

B12 so I'm like wait a

second and he's giving me box pulls that

have like

20,000% uh of of recommended daily dose

like 20,000% is a lot big number and I'm

like I said look I took a photograph of

the blood work that says I have excess

I'm like above the range above the

recommended range of B12 and then I'm

like and I took picture of things says

of the the pulls that say

20,000% I was like can you help me

reconcile these two things because it

says I've got too much little too much

V12 and you just gave me pills that have

20,000% more I'm like this is crazy what

did the doctor say he said you can never

have too much

B12 oh he's he's a psychopath yes that

guy's a B12 addict yeah it's totally

insane that's what I'm saying it's

like so I mean I could have just so then

you know well this was a while ago right

so this is pre like 5 years ago yeah

right this is pre grock like now you

could just enter in all that data and gr

just photograph with your phone and

upload it to Gro and it tells Gro will

tell you what's uh what's if just don't

have it in sexy mode she'll keep trying

to [ __ ]

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you I mean you're asking for it in sexy

mode you know literally you tapped on

sexy

mode I mean I think we probably should

like maybe allow it to get out of

character a little bit sure yeah it's

like in unhinged mode I tried to get it

back to being hinged but it would like

no [ __ ] way it's like I'm going to

stay UNH how many modes do you have I

there's like I don't know like eight or

something and then this there's an

ability to have a custom mode um so then

you could have unhinged Sexy O that's

that's my favorite

kind you may think

so careful what you wish for be careful

what you wish for especially if it's a

robot and she can kill you UNH sexy

robot is it's like

dangerous remember like the Pink Panther

remember Pink Panther had KO try to jump

him they like keep them sharp I always

trying to attack him remember that

right listen man thank you for being

here I always appreciate talking to you

I know you're busy as [ __ ] so it means a

lot to me that you have the time to do

this and uh I think what you're doing is

one of the most important things that

has ever happened in this country I

really do and particularly with the

ownership of X but also with what's

happening with Doge and just

enlightening all these people and

Shining Light on all the vampires well

hopefully people realize I'm not a Nazi

I think they I just want to be clear I

am not a Nazi I think we covered it but

that's exactly what a Nazi would say

damn

it yeah that's what an alien would say

yeah there's like this you can't escape

this [ __ ] no you can't escape it so

I don't think any reasonable person

believes it if they believe it it's cuz

they want to believe it it's not because

it's logical I mean what's relevant

about Nazis is like are you like

invading Poland okay um and if you're

not if you're not like invading Poland

maybe you're not yeah like you have to

be like committing genocide and like

starting Wars and if if you're if you're

if you're not like what is actually what

is bad about Nazis it's not their wasn't

their fashion sense or their mannerisms

it the Holocaust it was the the war and

genocide is what is the bad part um not

their mannerisms and their dress code

well that was a problem with all that

punch a Nazi [ __ ] like punch a Nazi

remember that people were say that was

like a thing that people kept saying

punch a Nazi punch Nazis but he where

are you meeting Nazis I've never met a

[ __ ] Nazi I've never met one I've

never run into a bunch of Nazis where I

had to punch them well and what what

about like all these like so-called like

like proud boy rallies or whatever and

and it's like they always got the masks

and they always got the same uniforms

and for some reason they never get doxed

right right right right wait we're

always going to dox them except these

guys great video of me and Matt Tai

breaking down the Patriot Patriot front

didn't the Patriot front Justice

band Google that real quick we'll end

with this because they I I think they

just disbanded and these were the most

obvious feds of all time they were say

they had [ __ ] drum they masks on yeah

they all had uniforms it was so stupid

so patr disband one day after FBI

director Chris Ray does that seem like

an odd coincidence crazy crazy the

people that we were yelling at saying

that they're feds there's a great video

of me and Matt taibe if you want to find

how come never nobody ever followed them

and docked them yeah

crazy what are the odds what are the

odds agent provocators it's the thing

they're real Alex Jones taught me about

them

listen man thank you very much thank you

for everything appreciate you stay alive

staying alive all

right I mean I do think like like one

argument for me staying alive is that

it's more entertaining if I'm alive than

if I'm dead oh yeah oh definitely I just

hope but I could be alive and like

injured which would be S which suck you

know like they win just like shoot my

arm off or something right no no no we

don't want that yeah exactly no keep the

security strong yeah Happ with one

hand all right it's like all right thank

you bye everybody bye

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