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Guy Ritchie "You Must Be The Master of Your Own Kingdom" - The Joe Rogan Experience | JRE Clips | YouTubeToText
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Hello freak I'm getting
fascinated by the way your brain works
because for you it's important that the
person want to wear the suit and I have
a feeling that that's sort that's
symbolic of how you feel about life
itself. Like the person has to want to
be doing what they're doing. They have
to want to wear that suit. It has to be
an authentic gesture. Um did you ever
read a book called Extreme Ownership
written by a couple of Navy Seals? Uh
that's Joo Willink, right? No. No. Oh,
that's uh I think it is. Is it Is it
Jaco's book? Yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah,
I've had Jaco on the show a bunch of
times. Important book. Well, I've had
him on once before. What am I talking
about? A bunch of times, right? I've had
him once, but it's an important book.
Yes. Right now, there's lots of books
that have picked up on this theme, but
they were very eloquent about it. If you
don't own something, you're not the
boss. You have to take full
responsibility for everything that you
do. Why be
subservient? You must be the master of
I feel you. Makes a lot of sense. You've
got to own. You can't just walk into
things with your eyes half open. You got
to walk into things with your eyes fully
open. You got to know what you're
getting into. You have to take
possession of your life. Is this a
thought process that you have to
constantly reaffirm or is this cemented
in your It's exactly that. It's exactly
that. You drift on this point, right?
And it is whatever form of meditation or
mantra that you decide to
espouse, there needs to be some period
in your day where you
remember that there's a world out there
trying to tell you who you are. And
there's a world in here that's trying to
tell you who you are. Now, where do you
want to put your ex? Because the world
outside is very noisy and very tempting
and it has all the razatas. It has all
the tinsel and all the
glitter. It's got all the
toys. But that's because you don't think
you're enough in the first
place. If you don't think you're enough
in the first place, the whole idea of
the world to sell you stuff is first of
all they have to make you feel bad about
yourself less than in some way. And I
don't resent this system by the way. It
is the system.
But what's the expression about? Don't
hate don't hate the player, hate the
game. Don't hate the game. Love the game
because you're in it, mate. So, own the
game, accept the rules, and move on into
the rules. So, the world will try and
tell you who you are, and you have to
tell yourself who you are. And there's
this ongoing battle, and somehow there
needs to be a reconciliation between the
two. But in the end, you've got to have
all the eggs in your basket. There's
also an ongoing internal battle, though,
isn't there? There's the you that you
want people to think you are, and
there's the you who you are, and trying
to figure out like, how do I how do I
figure out who I am? Like, am do do I
have a correct assumption of how other
people are perceiving me and how I
actually am objectively, or am I
bullshitting the world with this suit
and pocket square?
Yeah, I would say it's exactly the
scenario that we're talking about. There
there's essentially only two two worlds.
There's the inner world of energy and
there's the outer world of energy.
There's there's two identities. One's
real, one's false. The external world is
I'm asking you to tell me who I am.
That's what we're all playing at. And as
soon as you start to play that game, we
run into all sorts of trouble. Call it
the ego, call it whatever you want to
call it. But that's the dynamic that
give ourselves enough confidence to
reassure ourselves that we are enough.
However, I enter the game because I've
got to move on in the world. I got to
crack on in the world and I know there's
loads of temptations that can come along
the way. So, I will own the suit. I'm
going to wear the suit, but I'm going to
own the suit. Now, I don't mean by
paying for it. I mean by owning it. It's
now my suit. It's my idea to put on this
suit. I have to personalize it in some
way. I have to understand a narrative
that allows me to own that suit and
thereby I put on my suit of armor and I
come out into the world and guess what?
I'm in a good time because I'm owning
the suit. Now, this is a very rockolid
philosophy. Is this something you've
ever written down?
It's what the essence of narrative I'm a
storyteller. The essence of narrative is
only about this dynamic. There is
nothing else in a story other than this dynamic.
dynamic.
So the struggle
between other people's perceptions and
your own wants and desires and who you
truly are, your your significant real
self. That's it. That's all there is.
You tell me a story that didn't that we
engaged in that's famous that's not
about this journey. I'll give you an
example. The prodigal
son parable Christian seems religious
doesn't really make much sense. Do you
know the story? Sure, but why don't you
lay it out? So, there's a father. He has
two sons, an older son and a younger
son. And he says to them, "Who wants to
spend their inheritance?" The younger
says says, "Me, dad. I'll go and spend
it." And the younger son takes all the
dough. And he runs off and sniffs coke
off strippers tits for a number of years
until he
realizes this is getting pretty boring
and I'm in a lot of trouble. He ends up
feeding throwing food to pigs. That's
his job. And he can't even eat the food
that he gives to the pigs. At which
back?" Dad then goes to They don't meet
this somehow happens. Not through
telephones. It just happens. At which
point dad goes to the fatty calf, says,
"Kill the fatty cal." Older son says,
"Hold on, dad. What's going on? I've
stayed with you since the beginning.
I've been loyal to you and I hear the
stories of my younger brother coming
back who's been sniffing coke off
stripper's tits for the last god knows
how many years and you're prepared to
kill the fatty calf. What's the SP, Dad?
I want to know the
story. He says, "You're all right, son.
Don't worry about that. You take a
little side step a little step to the
side. You'll always be with me. You're a
good boy." At which point he goes out to
meet the prodical son, the wasteful son.
the wasteful sun returns and he says you
were lost and now you're found. That's
the end of the
story. It's quite hard to make sense of
that in a literal sense. You go, "Oh,
dad was a bit unfair and you should have
been kind to the older son cuz he never
ran off and did
anything." But the essence of the story
is that you are the
father. You are enough.
Your older son is your intellect. He
says, "Oh, don't do this. Don't do
that." He's trying to reconcile, make
sense of a prosaic and material world.
The younger son being the
wild feral entity that he is, wants to
go out in the world and find out what
it's all
about. So, in his
recklessness and sense of adventure, he
finds that he can't escape
himself. So he has to return to himself
and at which point he has to accept who
he is which point the intellect is left
out of the equation pretty much as the
older brother because he can't
understand the significance of the
journey of the wasteful brother. In the
end you have to leave yourself to
understand the value of yourself. You
have to lose stuff before you realize
that all the stuff that you're losing is
ephemeral and transitory. It's not
yours. You're enough. You're always
enough. But you've got to somehow
prostitute yourself before you realize
your own value. That is the essence of
all stories. That's deep, guy. Richie,
is that something you you think about
all the time or is this I mean, is this
like a cemented philosophy? Let So King
Arthur, the story you just made, a man
is a king has a son. The son um the
father is runs into a bit of aggro. The
son jumps into uh a little uh boat, a
little skillet, and he's not skillet.
That's what you cook your chops on,
isn't it? Yeah. Um skiff. A little
skiff. The skiff takes off down the
river. He gets found by prostitutes.
He's brought up in a brothel. He
understands the ways of the street. He
becomes a king on the street. He works
his way out the different ladders. And
then he pulls a sword from a stone at a
certain point in his life, a certain
point of evolution. And then from there,
he goes on to be the king. There's a bit
of a tossle all along the way, lots of
wrestling matches. In the end, he fights
down his demons and he becomes the king.
So what's the significance of this
narrative? That every man in himself is
aristocratic. That he is his own king.
He takes a sour into the material world,
has to climb up all the different runs
on the ladder and ultimately has to
return to himself. The significance of
the extraction from the sword from the
stone is the stone is the material
world. The material world which seems
all solid because it controls you whilst
you're projecting your sense of identity
upon it. The extraction of the stone is
taking back your own authority, your
own divinity, your own authority, your
own identity, whatever it is that you
got to call it, your own power. You're
no longer looking for a sense of self
outside of yourself. And then you have
to face the demons that you've created
in your history by facing them and
fighting them and owning them. You put
them in the face of who you are. And
that's a wrestling match. You'd have to
take away all these crutches. And that's
all that we struggle from in life is
taking away our crutches. Oh, please
tell me who I am. Oh, please give me a
bit more money so other people think I'm
clever. Oh, and then I'll have a nice
car and people think I'm clever. You got
to take away all these crutches and
stand as the man that you are and you're
liberated from your whole thing. That is
the story of King Arthur. But it's not
just the story of King Arthur. It's the
story of all narrative. Do you think
that most people that are watching the
film are going to get that though?
They're just going to get an
entertaining story. They're just going
to see a bunch of cool stuff, some drama
play out. But this is fascinating that
you're operating so many levels
underneath it. Yeah, but I'm a
storyteller. It's my business. So, if
I'm in the business of story, I might as
well understand story. And do you need
to understand all that? I'm not sure if
you do. Depends where you are on the
ladder. So, you can just go along, have
a nice bit of entertainment. Good guy,
bad guy, everything's literal. There's
nothing wrong with literalism. It is
what it is. It's the game. You can glean
what you can glean when you're ready to
glean what you're ready to glean. Are
you a Joseph Campbell fan? I am a Joseph
Campbell fan. Yeah. Yeah. That I mean
that's a reoccurring theme in his work.
This the hero's journey. Yes. The hero's
journey. this underlying sort of
narrative that just really guides all
all stories and all ancient tales and
that there's something inherently human
about them, important about these
stories and they resonate with our our
wants and needs and goals and and even
also maybe the structure that we really
truly need in our own life.
Yeah. I mean, all the stories from
whatever period, I'm sympathetic to this
particular um to Joseph Campbell's
philosophy on this, but he's not the
only one. Right. Right. The weird thing
about religion is religion has done to
the spiritual significance of narrative
He's literalized it. He didn't realize
that putting on a suit is putting on a
suit of armor. is putting on something
that's rather
spectacular. You're just doing it for
convention. You're doing it for others.
You're not doing it for you. And in our
literal mind, we look at a narrative and
we see the narrative for what we believe
it to be, the exterior aspect of the
narrative. So, we completely we see the
world upside down. We don't we're not
actually interested in the essence of
the narrative because we're so busy
pandering after the approval of others.
So everything that we see, every
narrative that we listen to, every film
that you see, you're not really
interested in
its soul, you're interested in its body
because that's what we correspond to.
It's fascinating that you're comparing
it to suits because it resonates like
when you think of a guy showing up for
work or getting ready for work and he
doesn't want to go and he's putting on
this suit and it's just dredging through
it and putting it on and or you think
about a guy who's crisply tucking in his
collars and putting on his cuff links
and tightening up his tie and he feels
empowered by the whole process of it.
It's very it's very appealing. Like if
you see it in a film too, it's very
exciting. This is a man of purpose. They
did it in mean streets. I don't know if
you remember Harvey Keitel getting
dressed to go up on a Friday, getting
dressed to go out on a Friday night and
it affected a whole generation of people
about the way they dress cuz he owned
it. Yeah. Yeah. I never really thought
about that until this conversation. It's
not because I I just I don't really I
wear suits occasionally, like very very
occasionally. But you've been robbed.
I've been robbed. You've been robbed.
There are so many aspects of life. Food
for a long time got robbed from us and
we've slowly managed to claw that back.
It's true. Um, but clothes really,
you're a 45-year-old geyser and you're
still dressing like an 18-year-old.
What cuss is all that about? Well, some
people like to be comfortable though. I
get that, by the way. And they like that
look. Comfortable. Your suit's
comfortable. It's comfortable. Yeah. You
can get poured into this. Completely
deconstructed on the inside. Made by a
chap called Brunelloo. Knows what he's
doing. So, these are all handmade. Um,
it's It won't be handmade. Really?
Tailored? Uh, no. You I bought this off
the shelf and I had it Yeah. a couple of
things tweaked, but it's as comfortable
as a pair of pajamas. Really? Yeah. So,
again, you have to broker a deal. You
can't put on things that are
uncomfortable because guess what happens
in the morning? You're looking through
your suits, you go, "Oh, I like that
one, but I'm going to wear the
comfortable one." Ah, so they all have
to be comfortable. Well, otherwise,
you're not going to play the game, are you?
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