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I would say don't be scared to be open

to this program. I like please go ahead

and reach out to Shmese and Shul at

Higher Carb Health because uh they will

show you a different way. Um they're

both amazing and um don't be scared of

trying something different that is

outside of you know a normal medical

system. Um, I'd say don't believe

everything that you're told. Um, qu like

be there to question that. Um, and yeah,

you can still use doctors in certain

ways and you know, I still go and see my

gastro and you know, she's amazed at how

well that I've been doing. And um,

that's all well and good, but don't be

afraid to question things. Um, and at

first I was just, you know, I was in

such a bad place that I

was, you know, just taking what the

doctors said on and following what they

said. But then there was a part of me

that was like, "No, let's let's see what

else there is. Let's question. Let's do

some research, read." Last week, I was

traveling um going to regional parts of

Australia. And um that's pretty amazing.

Like I never thought that I'd be able to

do that. Um, and also just like long car

trips or, you know, without a bathroom

nearby, like all of those things that

you, you know, get so anxious about when

you have um Crohn's or UC where you're

like, you know, I I remember I had the

the bathroom app on my phone, like

trying to find like map out where I

could potentially go if I was away from

home for like half an hour, just making

sure. like that's a horrible feeling to

have to constantly be worried about

that. Um, and so yeah, I don't I no

longer have that anxiety and that fear

of like having to to do all that. I I

know I'm confident that I don't need to

rely on going to the bathroom every 5

minutes. Not that I ever really did, but

I'd have urgencies for sure. Um, and I

needed to know to feel in order to feel

better and to feel okay going out of the

house, I needed to know that they they

were there in place and I knew where

they I could locate them. Um, I don't

have any of that anymore. I'm able to do

the things that I have always wanted to

do. Um, and now I'm able to do them with

intent, if that makes sense. Like I'm

able to intentionally

um, exercise. I'm able to intentionally

like uh go out socially and not worry.

Um and and do that with the the best

intentions for myself. Um like not just

go out cuz I, you know, feel like I can,

but like really enjoy the fact that I'm

now in such a better place that I can

enjoy myself. I deserve to be able to

enjoy myself without having to think

about all of these other things were in

the background. Um, you know, as I

mentioned before, my periods have been

better. I'm not, you know, locked in at

home thinking, "Oh god, I've got this

pain and I'm not feeling great and I

can't go out." And, you know, that's all

lifted. And I think that's really made

me more confident as a person. I can now

eat what I want. Like, I can have,

obviously, I've stuck to the whole foods

plant-based diet. Um, and that's

significantly changed my life. Um, but I

can now have what I want. Like I can go

out to, you know, a really nice vegan

plant-based restaurant. Um, and I can

eat foods there and not feel like, you

know, guilty or like feel weird about

putting that in my body because I know

that I'm, you know, putting really

clean, good foods in my body. So, that's

changed. I'm able to be more social um,

as well because of that. Um, and I've

met some really great people through

this, like through my, you know,

newfound confidence and the way that I

now I'm I'm more open um than I once

was. And I think that is, you know, I

think that's a massive achievement and a

massive um difference in my life. That's

what my life looks like now. Happy,

open, honest um and being able to lead

my life with intent. I think that

they're the main things. I don't feel

held back by anything or anyone. Um I'm

able to kind of make decisions based on

me and how I feel and um yeah, and not

people please or be at the mercy of that

anymore because yes, you can please

people and I think that's great to do,

but not at the detriment of your own

self. Um and so um yeah, my life looks

um like the life I want to lead. you

know, the first lot of medication I

took, I was like, is this what my life

is going to look like, like this is

worse, you know, um, and so, yeah, just

questioning that stuff was really

important. But yeah, I think at the end

of the day, you know, being cur curious

about this stuff and and being open, I

think, is the best thing that you can do

for yourself. Reach out to High Carb

Health. Um, I think what's amazing is is

that there's no silly questions. You can

probably back that up, Shmese, but there

there isn't anything silly um about

asking different questions. They're

there for you. Um and they've got your

best interest at heart. I think that's

what why I loved working with you guys

is, you know, is because you you offered

that, as I said, holistic approach, but also

also

um you know, you guided really well. Um

and so it didn't make me feel nervous or

scared. made me feel really good about

the whole process and now I'm in the

best position I can be um because of of

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Hey guys, welcome to another video. I'm

very very grateful to share this story

to share this beautiful inspiring story

uh from a young lady who just really

wanted to take control of her life and

not I guess be succumbing to her her

disease and and she wanted to find

another way out uh and also not rely on

on medication. So, I'm I'm just really

excited to share this with you uh today.

And Lissa was diagnosed with Crohn's

disease. I'm going to just pass it over

to her

um because she can explain to you a

little bit more about her diagnosis and

we'll kind of break down what she did to

get to where she is now. Um you know,

medication free and living her best

life. Um I'm sure there's so many things

to talk about. you've done some amazing

things just recently as well. Uh and and

let's get into that. But I guess just

for starters, let's um let's go back a

little bit. Let's go back to your

diagnosis and uh we'll take it from

there. So the floor is yours, Lissa, and

yeah, talk about your journey or

introduce yourself if you'd like. Yeah,

thank you so much, Shice. Um yeah, my

name is Lissa. I was diagnosed with

Crohn's disease in 2023 came as a bit of

a shock but not completely. I think what

really um got me to invest want to

investigate further was the fact that I

was experiencing all of these symptoms

that you know I was told were other

things. So I was told it was fibroids

which I was diagnosed with um or

endometriosis which I was you know that

was also thrown around and I think um

after having dealt with those issues and

having surgery for those things um my

symptoms still appeared and doctors sort

of palmed it off as being women's

issues. Um, and so I I found that, you

know, really difficult to swallow

because I knew my body and I knew um

that there was something else going on.

And so I decided to go and see another

doctor um and get get a colonoscopy

um of which they discovered I had

moderate Crohn's disease. Um and so when

I did get diagnosed, it came as a relief

more than anything else. Um I remember

getting the diagnosis after I woke up

from the colonoscopy um and the gastro

said you know you have Crohn's disease

it's quite it's it's moderate you know

getting to the severe end of things

potentially um if it's not treated now.

Um, and I remember just crying with

relief because, um, I finally got the,

you know, the diagnosis after all those

years. And I knew that I had symptoms

that were sort of

unexplainable beforehand. and and it

never really um occurred to me that it

could be Crohn's disease because my

symptoms sort of were masked by the

fibroid issue that I had, the women's

health issues that I had and um and so

it was always put down to those things.

But um yeah, just knowing my body and

knowing the I guess the um the symptoms

that I had weren't typically Crohn's

symptoms, like I wasn't going to the

toilet. um you know, seven to 10 time or

however many times a day. I was going

you know, couple of times more than you

you'd usually go. Um I didn't have any

blood in my stools. Um and so there were

things that didn't quite line up. So the

doctors were like, "You don't have

that." Um and so but every other symptom

kind of did line up. So it was this

weird thing of like me kind of knowing

what I had before I was diagnosed. Um,

and yeah, it's just that that thing of,

you know, doctors think you're making it

up. Um, and it was then that I really

started to, um, distrust the the medical

system in a lot of ways because, um,

yeah, it just didn't feel right to me

that I wasn't, you know, I wasn't, um,

told that, um, for starters, it was

curable. Um, I was just told that, you

know, have this medication, it's going

to make you better. Um, and you'll just

have to deal with the symptoms and

repercussions of that. And yeah, I

started to sort of do more research

after quickly after I was diagnosed with

Crohn's disease. Um, I started to do

more research. Um, and I've always been

into, you know, natural sort of healing

therapy. Um and so I started to look

into other ways in which to heal my body

rather than just

masking you know the the symptoms with a

medication or you know even the diet I

was told to go on. Um I had a meeting

with a dietitian and you know they told

me to eat lots of animal products um and

still go on with dairy and and all that

sort of stuff which I I didn't really

you know I wasn't really having much of

anyway. Um I ate mostly a vegetarian

diet post um oh sorry before um my

Crohn's diagnosis. Um and then yeah

afterward um after being diagnosed I

still kept that up. Um but I think yeah

there was just this misinformation that

I wasn't prepared to just swallow. I

think it was um I've always been curious

about how I can help myself in other

ways or other people. for instance um

you know being able to kind of help

people now see that there's other ways

in which you can heal and um and you

know be open to that. I think being open

to that is the biggest lesson I've

learned. being open to healing in a

different way rather than just relying

on the doctors and what they've told you

is going to work for you because

everybody is, you know,

um so easily persuaded by by the doctors

um and what what they've got to say. So

yeah, I think in a nutshell um it

really uh awoken me to the fact that um

there was an alternative way and that's

when I started doing more research and I

found um high carb health. Um and yeah,

then I began my journey not long after I

was diagnosed. Um a few months a but not

that long after. Um I came to you guys

because uh a friend of mine had

mentioned that a friend of hers had

worked with you and it was successful.

Um and immediately I was really drawn to

that um approach and and what you guys

had to offer not just in the way of your

you know thinking about diet but the

holistic approach that you offered. I

think that's where my um interest was

from the beginning in terms of working

with you was that it was more of a

holistic approach. It wasn't just about

any one thing. It was like a series of

things that really

um I guess inspired me to to to get in

contact with you. Yeah. Yeah. And isn't

it so that you know

we I guess don't really understand that

the when the body is in disease disease

it's not necessarily one thing that you

have you have it's it's an accumulation

of things and you know to go and like

you know feel that for yourself or go

and understand that for yourself is

quite hard because when you go to the

doctors you're told oh it's one thing we

need to sort of sort this out we need to

sort the inflammation out and all these

kinds of things but we're never really

told the holistic approach and obviously

when I was going through this as well

for myself um they were always targeting

the inflammation targeting the colon or

targeting the CRP or targeting certain

blood tests and I guess when you're

looking at from that angle it's you're

missing out on a lot of things and not

necessarily advising accordingly. Um and

I guess for for us it's it's such an

important integral part of life in

general. you know getting enough sleep,

drinking enough water, eating the right

foods, getting enough exercise, having a

good you know stress or managing stress

in a way that you can sort of handle

certain situations. So there are so many

things that um you know when you get

sick it's not just one thing. It's not

just like, oh, I need to deal with this

or, you know, there's so many things and

and it's great that you were able to see

that and and be open to it, you know,

because a lot of people do close

themselves off um when it comes to, you

know, thinking outside the square or or

just maybe not wanting to do something

about their condition and rely on

someone else to sort of do it for them

or, you know, because I mean, when we go

to the doctors first, it's always like,

you know, we we want a solution, Right.

And the doctors may give us one. Um, you

know, and it might be a temporary fix

and you're kind of you're kind of, okay,

cool. The doctor's going to help me

instead of saying I'm I'm going to help

myself. You know, I you know, this these

hasn't come from nowhere. Uh, it's an

accumulation of certain things that you

weren't potentially doing right. And

some people have it worse than others.

Um, but there's always some kind of

internal reflection that needs to be

taken in order for us to then start to

see the other side and go, okay, well,

maybe I need to change this in my life.

Maybe I need to change that in my life.

And maybe it's not just go to the doctor

and go, okay, I need to take some pills

for this and things will be fine. I

mean, we're going to be talking about

this a little bit more, you know, in

your journey, but, you know, there was a

huge mental component to, you know,

overcoming this uh condition. not only

this condition but just everything in

your life uh you know because it it does

expand to those um

aspects and and so before we before we I

guess get into that I just want to um

sort of touch on medications that they

the doctors put you on um and sort of

how long you took them for and how did

you feel when you were on those

medications and I guess that was one of

the reasons why you wanted to sort of

come off them because you weren't

feeling so good. So, I guess explain

some of the medications that the doctor

put you on from the get- go and then

what your thoughts are on medications, I

guess, and and why you chose to sort of

start coming off them. Yeah. Um, yeah,

thanks, Shmese.

Um so for me when I first got diagnosed

the um the doctors put me immediately on

um as a thioprene or Imiran um as it's

also known. Um and within I think it was

less than a week um I was in the

hospital um because I had such severe

symptoms of um just side effects really

that did not agree with me. Um, I

remember I couldn't get out of bed. Um,

I felt so um terrible that I I remember

like my vision started going blurry. Um,

I was unable to eat anything. Um, I kept

running to the bathroom quite often. Um,

it actually made my whole experience

worse. Um, I felt better not having had medication.

medication.

Um, and I remember the gastro explaining

to me that that's where they have to

start you on those medications because

they're cheaper medications. Um, and

that's just where, you know, they they

start you they don't put you on a

biologic straight away because it's too

expensive. So, they start you on these

medications that have a very alarming

um I want to say uh dead sea scroll list

of um side effects um that you know you

you wouldn't want to put that in your

body. Um and I definitely didn't. So

immediately um stopped taking it. Um I

was in hospital for maybe a week because

I just had such severe reaction to that.

Um, and my like my fluids went down,

like everything. My body was basically

shutting down from that medication. Um,

and I was in a really terrible mental

state because I'd gone from getting a

diagnosis to thinking I was going to

feel better once I took this medication.

And it was actually the opposite.

Um, and then after that, I had a bit of

a rest off medication for quite a few I

think it might have been quite a few

weeks, maybe even a month or two. Um and

then they started me on a biologic. Um

and that biologic

um was fine. I actually started to feel

better on the biologic. Um however, I

did have some side effects like I had

very heavy periods. Um I had um just

random sort of side effects that I sort

of put down to taking that medication um

rather than it actually being the

Crohn's itself. So things like um really

swollen joints um you know painful um

movement like when I move my legs and my

arms sometimes in the morning first

thing I'd have quite a bit of pain like

um especially my forearms like um bit of

a like a tingling sort of pain um and so

yeah I realized that there's quite a

long list of you know side effects that

come with those biologics as well even

though I was feeling feeling better. Um

I didn't Yeah. just didn't want those

side effects and didn't want myself to

go through that again. And I sort of

wondered like if I'm on this long term

then what if this stops working I'm only

going to have to go on another

medication and and then that might stop.

Like so it's just this weird sort of

vicious cycle. Um and I started to feel

really um just mentally not great about

that. Um and so that's when

I started to really question it and go

is this worth it or what are there any

is there anything else I can do um in

terms of looking after my body and being

you know Crohn's free in a sense um or

you know keep keep everything at bay

without having to like mask it. I think

that's the thing like you know the the

medications really mask some of the the

symptoms that you might have associated

with Crohn's and I don't think it really

heals your body in the way that you

think it might. Um I think it's very

much just a band-aid uh band-aid fix um

an interim fix really rather than a

long-term absolutely solution. Yeah. I

mean it has its place. I think you you

sort of you know when we worked together

the the medication played its role

because of some of the severe symptoms

that you were having. I think the

stomach pain was was quite a big one for

you too or the um menstrual pains that

you had as well. That was also something

that um didn't help when you took the

medicine uh you know when you did the

infusion. Were you on infusions or did

you have to go to the hospital and get

an IV drip? What was the situation? Uh

yeah I had to self- inject. So the first

one was an infusion where a nurse came

home and um and it was sort of like the

loading dose and then um every eight

weeks was a self injection. Yeah. Right.

And how long did you how many weeks or

how many doses how many injections did

you take roughly? Do you remember or how

uh quite a few months I think I was on

on that for you know four four months

maybe in total. So um maybe three

injections. Um, wasn't that many I

remember, but I remember feeling

starting to like sort of feel good and

then I was like a bit worried to to not

have that safety blanket um so to speak.

Yeah. And then this this is the tricky

part, isn't it? Cuz when you do take the

medication, sometimes the symptoms do

sort of subside uh and and you can kind

of get your life back, but it's it's

it's never the same as without the

medicine, right? I mean, if you compare

yourself now

to taking the medicine and sort of

living that life and living this life,

there's so much of a difference. It's

almost black and white, you know, in

that way. Um, but I guess everyone has

to go through those

experiences to kind of understand that

what is it that you want in your life?

And I think you're already a person that

was looking outside the square and

going, "Hang on a second." like I think

I would like to do this naturally and I

don't need to sort of have this constant

injection that potentially may make me

worse as you said before in the long

term and that there isn't that much data

long term uh for these medications as

well and so that's

where you know that's where my issue is

as well you know and that's why I didn't

want to take medicines for the rest of

my life because I thought hang on a

second some of the diseases that you get

from the side effects are even worse

than the condition that that we have. Um

so so you know a big big uh you know pat

on the back for sort of making that

decision for yourself and I guess we'll

we'll talk about that as well cuz there

was a a time where you know it was a bit

scary for you but you know you started

to understand it a lot more and you you

took you sort of took the initiative

which was really important you know and and

and

um yeah so you found us um you found us

and I

Did it give you hope? Did what did you

feel when you sort of came across our

our stuff like our our YouTube channel

and and things like that? How did you

feel when you saw this? You maybe you

you watched some testimonials and how

did you feel when when Yeah. Um I felt

like there was something else out there

that I could potentially try. Um, and I

didn't at first I was a little bit

um, hesitant and not because I didn't

want to give it a go. It was just

because I was like in a really hard

place mentally and I think I just needed

that to build confidence up to I guess

get in contact and um which I did pretty

quickly but I think it just um took me a

little bit of time to sort of wrap my

head around the fact that there was um

you know someone like you out there that

um could potentially give me another

pathway. Um, and I, um, I remember

looking at a testimonial, um, I think it

was Emily's testimonial that really

stuck with me. Um, and so I, you know,

and I flicked through some of the other

ones, too, and and but that one really

stood out to me because, um, Emily's

testimonial stood out because,

um, yeah, I think her perseverance

with, you know, just trying to, you

know, be medication free and trying to

see a different way of, um, of living, I

think, uh, really inspired me to reach

out and to give this a go. Um, and I

think you know the the diet um issue I

think for me like it was very easy well

I found it easy um to transition to you

know to to the program that you had

because um I'd seen you know someone

like Emily come out the other side of

that and it was really inspirational.

Um, and so I was like, well, this is

easy then. Like this is the an easy

thing to do is like transition my food

and like be able to, you know, eat

really well like this. And and I was um,

you know, I think I was eating fairly

well before, but then I came to realize

that, you know, some of those foods

weren't healing. Um, and so I really

loved that you offered that side of

things like that. Um, that guidance with

food and and introducing foods and, you

know, now I'm able to eat any of the

fruits and veggies that I like, you

know, without having any repercussions.

Um, so that was amazing. But yeah, I

think in terms of coming to to you to to

you guys, I really wanted a program or

someone that could guide me

holistically. So it wasn't just about

the diet in in isolation. It wasn't just

about, you know, saying goodbye to a

medication or changing or whatever, you

know, it was more about

um, you know, the mindset um and the

holistic view that you offered. And I

think it really helped me to get in a

different frame of mind. Um, and it

really helped me to excel. Um, because

you offered that holistic approach.

Nothing was siloed. Everything was

connected. Um, and so that's why I found

I wanted to work with you pretty quickly

because you offered that and that's what

I wanted and needed at the time. Yeah.

Yeah. I remember that first conversation

actually that we had um and you know you

really wanted someone that could show

you a way but also say hey actually

there's other things that we need to

work on you know and I think this is

where the the people pleasing thing and

and sort of going into that aspect of

like not taking control of your own self

and the self-love that you that you may

have lacked at the start and and sort of

your vulnerable Uh, and so how did how

did like what I was saying to you was

making sense to you because it's like

all about self-control and go no I can

stand up for myself and I I can do this

for myself you know and that's that's

what I had to do when I was going

through it and so I'm you know sharing

my experience with you about that and

going hey well maybe if you tweak a few

of these things and start adapting these

things to your life you might see some

changes and that those changes made

sense to you because that's where that's

what the path that you you probably

always wanted but didn't know where to

go or what to do. And then yeah, the the

diet coming into it as well at at a time

where you know everything is connected.

And so um you know it was actually

really cool cuz

I when I talked to you like you were

really looking forward to to doing this

and like you started to understand okay

this is what I need to do. Uh it's not

like okay Shmeza is gonna help me.

Shemeza is gonna tell me certain things

so that I can help myself.

Yes. That's right. And and I think that

that struck a chord with you because you

needed someone to sort of tell you that

hey, you know, you can do this and it's

okay and you can do that and it's okay

and nothing's going to happen to you.

you know, you're not going to get sicker

and you're not going to, you know, there

was there was some hope there that, you

know, you wanted and I think we don't

necessarily get that with doctors,

right? Because they don't know any

better. They don't know that, hey, this

is a, you know, well, they they say that

it's a medically incurable condition

because because it is cuz medicine

cannot cure it. But who is to say that,

you know, if you do the right things

mentally and physically and and you you

work yourself out, you go through your

past traumas or you go through those

experiences and go, "Hey, well, how can

I do certain things to get myself

better, you know, you're you're

challenging the status quo because you

kind of have to challenge that in order

for you to get better because everybody

else is kind of stuck in their own way."

Uh, and you didn't want to be stuck, you

know, and neither did I, you know, I was

like, I'm not I'm not signed up for this

stuff, you know, because this is it

doesn't make sense to me to to do this.

mean, you know, you you you really

started to understand what you needed to

do and I and I was really grateful to to

then be like, "Okay, let's do this

together, you know, cuz it's like it's

always nice to have someone to that's

raring to go that understands, you know,

what they need to do." And I think with

the diet, I think we just refined a few

things that, you know, cuz you were

already knowledgeable about certain

things about, you know, a whole food

plant-based diet and what the benefits

of that um, you know, are and and so it

was just like, okay, here's a here's a

helping hand, you know, like do this and

and tweak a certain certain things and,

you know, see how your body responds to

that. and and it worked really well

because again you took the initiative uh

you know and I think

in in saying that like let let's talk

about that cuz there it's it's not

always smooth sailing obviously there's

always going to be ups and downs there's

always going to be challenges that you

need to face especially

because there's a little voice inside of

your head that says certain things and

you almost have to fight yourself in

this battle where you're kind like you

know the doubts start creeping in or you

know you say to yourself oh certain

things that you probably don't need uh

and I guess let's talk about that with

your experiences and

how how much of a challenge it was to a

certain extent um where

you you know you'd get some symptoms and

then you'd be like oh is this am I doing

the right things or you know like and

and so yeah like I guess talk to the

audience about how you got through some

of the tough times.

Yeah. Yeah. That's um I think this is

yeah really valuable to talk about for

me now reflecting back

um yeah I I remember when I sort of

started the the program and and kind of

eating you know differently and and

um you know changing my mindset. I f

found that very challenging at the

beginning because I think I was in a

really I want to say dark sort of place

mentally like I I was like oh you know

the the fear had set in um and that

crept back in you know multiple times um

throughout working with you but I think

um I'd always remind myself that this

was just you know how I'm feeling now is

maybe not how I'm going to feel

tomorrow. Um or how I feel now is not

how I'm going to feel in 6 months time.

And so there was always a bit of a a

light at the end of the tunnel, so to

speak. And that kept me going. And I

think what really helped me was having

those regular meetings with you because

it kept me in check. Um I remember there

was one time you said to me

um you know as soon as you have those

sorts of thoughts um you know going into

that sort of space where you know it's

not going to help you um how can you

what are some of the things that you can

do to drag yourself out of that and so

you know I would do things like

meditation or um I would as soon as I

had those sorts of thoughts I'd you know

sort of replace it with something really

positive Um and so that really helped

helped me. Um and doing very very light

movement like walking like exercise very

light on but um just even doing some

stretches and things eventually that

started to help me and now you know

exercise is um such a big part of my you

know daily daily life that I feel like

that really helped me to sort of change

my mindset as well. I mean, it was all

those other things, but I really felt

like some light movement back then when

I wasn't feeling so great definitely

shifted my mental state. Um, and yeah, I

think going back to what, you know, I

said before, you know, you checking in

with you every every week made the world

of difference because I was sort of held

accountable for those, you know, dipping

back into th that sense of fear. Um, and

so when I'd see you online, it would be

like, okay, no, those thoughts go out

the window. This is a fresh start now in

this meeting. And from here on in, let's

think about the positive effects and how

far I've come from, you know, where I

was to now. And so I'd sort of keep

myself going, you know, thinking along

those terms. Um I think what you said

before about the people pleasing and you

know the the self lack of self- loveve I

think that's definitely been you know

has been in my my past like um I would

always you know please other people

before myself and now I've really

shifted that mindset and I think that's

definitely helped me to heal um in a big

way because you know if you can't look

after yourself and and give yourself

that love and care that you deserve then

how are you're going to help other

people in need. Um, and so, you know,

you said that to me once that really

stuck with me and, um, I've really

adapted that that mentality and now

that's really put me in a in a good

place to help other people if I ever

need to and or when I need to. And, um,

it's also given me um, I think a little

bit of a different attitude toward my

own self and how I view myself and my

confidence as well. Like I think that's

a big thing, you know, being able to

kind of know your worth and your

confidence. Um, and be confident in your

the decisions you make, you know, like

it's a bit scary to go, okay, cool. I'm

going to, you know, change my whole

lifestyle in terms of what I eat and how

I interact and um, meds and and all

these other things. Um, it's really

scary to to make those changes, but um,

I think having the confidence, you gave

me the confidence to do that. Um and so

I'm really so grateful for that because

um I think my confidence was there but

it was kind of hidden away and so you

helped me to to realize that

um yeah a lot of empowerment there and

also like I mean if

if you're in a position where you need

to make a decision who's going to do it

for you no one. Yeah. No one's going to

tell you what to do because it's your

life. you you have to make the decisions

and you know it's not you know like of

course you know I'm going to have my

point of view and things like that and

but but it's it's at the end of the day

it's it's you going okay I'm going to

take him what he said and then go I'm

going to choose to do whatever path I

feel that makes more sense and he's

telling me hey okay well if I if you do

this then this is going to happen and

it's it's actually very empowering ing

when you make those decisions for

yourself because, you know, for the

longest time you probably were, you

know, worrying about other people's

decisions and then sort of making your

own decisions from other people. Uh and

and that's that's a trait that a lot of

people have. It's not just yourself. uh

because we we do sort of go into our

shell and then not necessarily branch

out of that uh or or find a bigger shell because

because

we I don't know we feel like we lack and

we're we're vulnerable uh and and it's

the low self-esteem as well. So like you

your point where your confidence is sort

of bringing bringing that confidence out

in you is exactly what I want from

people like yourself that have this lack

and that they don't know what to do with

themselves. You know, even though you

have what it takes, it's like you you

stop yourself from doing it. And I'm

kind of like, hold on a second. Like

why? You know, yeah. You know, it's it's

it's a it's a it's a great feeling

though when you start to take that

initiative and go, "No, what? He's

actually right. Like, why am I not why

am I not doing this?" And and why am I

not stepping up to the to the plate

where like I can actually I'm I'm okay,

you know? I'm not I'm not I can do it

like sick or I'm not, you know, in a

position where I'm really unhealthy. and

and so that and and that brings me back

to the point where when you you know did

have those negative thoughts

um you didn't necessarily focus on the

symptoms improving you focused on the

negative thoughts and so therefore what

did I do to you I reminded you of your

body changing and then you were like oh

yeah actually like I didn't have that

symptom last week and then I didn't have

these other symptoms last week, but it

you sort of forget about these things

too, right? when you're when you're

going through it cuz your mind is

constantly like you know oh like am I

doing the right thing or you know like

when you and especially when you when

you do feel a little bit worse like I

remember you had a couple of fevers

during this time and you have to you had

to stay at home and and luckily for you

you were able to work from home too but

um you know being at home preparing was

was was great but when you did get that

fever you kind of felt like it it

shocked you a little bit cuz you're

like, "Oh, why is this happening?" And

then you sort of thought about it a

little bit more and you were like, "Hang

on a second. Maybe this is what my body

is trying to do to start getting

better." And then the belief started

coming into you.

I just want to add there too. I think um

I didn't have I didn't put trust in my

body and I think that was the biggest

thing that sort of set me back is like I

didn't trust that my body would do what

it needed to do. And I think that's the

biggest thing lesson that I've learned,

you know, over the the past um couple of

years is that your body will do what it

needs to do. You just have to give it

the right conditions. And um and that's

something that I did not have initially

when I saw you um when I started working

with you was that I didn't have that um

trust in my body. Yeah. That it would

just do what it needed to do. So that

was that was really hard for me. But I I

think as you said, the symptoms really,

you know, I didn't have a symptom. You

know, the the week sometimes I'd come

and see you and I'd jump online and I'd

be like, "Oh, I've got this now." And

then it's like, "Oh, hang on. That's

actually an improvement from like 3

weeks ago." um you know so it's just

about realizing that where your body's

at and trusting the process because I

know that sounds really naff but um

trusting that it will do what it needs

to do when it needs to do it is the

biggest lesson I think. Yeah. Yeah. And

the small wins that you get like

reinforces that and therefore you sort

of grow in that confidence. And I guess

it's easy to sort of forget that and and

go, "Oh, no." Like, cuz we we always

focus on the negatives. We always focus

on the small things that aren't working

than the bigger things that are working.

It's always this is human nature, I

feel, which is annoying, but it it just

it feels like we look at the the nooks

and crannies instead of like the bigger

picture. And like why why do we do that?

It's cuz we we're pretty much

conditioned to do that in today's

society, you know, and like always look

at the negatives, always look at the the

failures in people's lives. And I guess

that's where we go to Poppy, you know,

like, you know, we want to bring people

down when they're succeeding. And and I

think that's we're always ingrained with

that in our in our sort of way of life

because of so many people thinking along

the same way. And I guess that's where

like we look up to successful people

because they've sort of gotten out of

that trap of going I don't want to be

like that, you know? I want to look at I

want to focus on on the positives and

and the the results instead of focusing

on the

failures and and that really breaks you

like it it takes you away from breaks

that chain that you've been holding on

to like struggling your whole life. And

it's like now you're free. You're free

to think actually like in a way that is

going to benefit you instead of thinking

in a way that's going to put you down.

And that I think that was probably the

biggest thing that you realized going

through this is how do I think in a way

that's going to actually benefit me? And

like what was that quote? um try

and support the life that you want to

create by thinking certain things

instead of you know putting yourself

down and and um yep yeah that that was

amazing. So um I just want to go back to

when you when you watched Emily's um

testimonial. She she's going to love by

the way but um excellent. You know I

think another reason why she was in that

position was because she was desperate

and she she actually had run out of

options. uh you know the doctors had

gone through every sort of situation. I

think you you saw that and you were like

if I go down this route then that's

probably going to be me. So let let me

like do this first. So then it prevents

me from potentially going down that

route, you know, and like you said like

I've got nothing to lose or I'll try it,

you know, I'll try doing this. Um, but

but the fact that, you know, she was

able to get out of a position that was

so hard, you know, like she was in a

really desperate place and and for you

to see that and go, "Hey, I'm I can do

this." You know, cuz if she can do it, I

can do And I think that's another key

point there that you know when you see

someone get better uh it encourages you

and it go and and and that's that's why

I think sharing sharing your story as

well is so important because there might

be someone out there that is also in the

similar position to you like you know

like that that might be thinking oh I

was that I'm that person you know I I

don't take care of myself I take care of

other people first you know like so it

does trigger and and and inspire Yeah.

And I think it's it's great that um you

know we can talk about this because

you know a lot a lot of people in

general men and women uh you know do

have this issue that you know we don't

we don't want to embrace healing. We

don't want to you know take control of

ourselves and and like who else is going

to do it for you? You know no one's be

able to Yeah. You have to do it on your

own. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Um, I just want to also reflect on

some of the symptoms that you may have

had and and also um some of the

the I guess women's issues that that you

had and I guess just talk about that cuz

a lot of probably a lot of women

probably are experiencing similar things

to you uh in that in that way and I

guess it would be lovely for you to

speak about how when you started eating

a certain way some of these things that

you were having previously had had sort

disappeared or gone away because of you

know eating clean and and understanding

that okay if I put these foods into my

body my body can naturally work and and

heal these things. So I think um you

know if you don't want to you can go

into details if you want but yeah up up

to you to talk about it but I think it's

important that that if you want to share

with that yeah share share with

thanks yeah I think um I think it's this

is really important stuff to talk about

because um there are women out there

that are facing you know uh quite a lot

of pain um and having quite a lot of

pain on the regular

Um, and so I was one of those. I'm not

anymore. Um, and I remember like I've

always been uh someone to have a heavy

period. Um, and so that was, you know,

something that I just had all I've had

all my life now. Um, since I started my

period. Um but since uh being diagnosed

with fibroids um which was uh quite a

number of years ago, I was just told

that um you know just deal with it. Um

and that was really hard to to swallow

because I was like okay there has to be

a way I can you know not go through this

pain every month and not have iron

infusions all the time because I was

losing so much blood. Um, and also I

didn't know that I had Crohn's at the

time. So that, you know, I my iron was

always always low. Um, and I was always

feeling horrible um around period time

because I'd have pain and I'd also um

just have no energy at all. Um and so um

I had a procedure done to remove um most

of those fibroids which helped but then

I still had the issue of like really

long periods and heavy bleeding with a

lot of pain in the leadup to the period

and during the period and then even

after the period. So I would say you

know majority of the month was spent in

pain. Um, and I just kind of normalized

that on top of the Crohn's pain that I

had as well. And so I think when your

brain is in that constant cycle of pain

all the time, you just your brain almost

normalizes that in a weird way and you

know you develop a high pain threshold

which isn't good um in a lot of ways

because that's not natural to have those

sorts of periods um and and that sort of

pain. And so when I started um with you

guys at High Carb Health um I was eating

really clean and at first I didn't see

any much improvement. Um but then um as

the months went on I noticed that my

periods were much lighter. Um I wasn't

having you know in the leadup I wasn't

having really bad back pain or tummy

pain um or even ovary pain. like on on

one side I get this really sort of heavy

pain um in the leadup. Um I wasn't I

started to like realize that I wasn't

having that. Um but it was almost this

weird thing of like my my cycle would

come and I it would happen. Um and then

I started to realize, oh wow, I didn't

go through two weeks of pain. My periods

just arrived and you know I'm not

experiencing that. Um, and so I was

realizing that like diet plays such a

massive part in, you know, in in how

that works every month and how your body

um, I guess, you know, tolerates um,

that pain and and and also like eating

um, whole food plant-based diet really

helped me to understand that I was

putting really good stuff in my body, so

my body was going to

um, I guess respond in ways that were

really favorable. So like my periods

were lighter and not as heavy. Um I they

were shorter like an like a reasonable

amount of time. They weren't like 9 or

10 days. They were um seven or less. Um

which was has been a massive improvement

for me because I've always had you know

periods that last 10 11 days sometimes

very heavy. Um, and so yeah, the the the

way in which they present themselves, I

wasn't, you know, I was always worried

to get my period because I was like, I'm

going to lose so much blood and I'm also

going to um have all this pain. So,

there was this fear associated with that

and there shouldn't be. That's not a

natural response. Um, and so now when I

do get my period, I will have like a

little bit of pain the day before or

couple of days before it'll happen and

it will be a non-event. Um, and I'm so

grateful because I'm able to kind of it

really um stopped me from doing things

socially cuz I'd be like, okay, not I'm

not going to feel good around this time

of the month, so I'm just going to stay

home. Um, and so it really,

um, I guess it really, you know, taught

me that what you put into your body is

really, really, really important because

uh, your body is, like I said, going to

respond in a way that um, that you'd

want it to respond in. And now my body

is doing that. And I'm so happy that I

got have now got to a place where I

cannot fear my my cycle every month and

not have the pain associated with it.

And just the general anxiety like I'd

get quite anxious

um just even thinking about it in the

leadup and now I'm like h whatever it's

fine you know. Um and that's how it's

really meant to be. Yeah. Wow. That's

that's incredible. I mean like for you

to go from where you were to where you

are now uh you know it it feels like

you're a different Lissa like almost you

know you can actually it's not a

different Lissa it's actually the the

true Lissa that was always there but it

was always being sort of you know like

masked as you say and and not only this

what what's really interesting is that

you know see how the body works in so

many different areas and heals in so

many different ways you know you came

with us with, you know, to to heal your

Crohn's. And it's like it's not only the

Crohn's that's sort of healed. It's it's

so many other aspects of your life and

and your body. Uh, you know, and that's

the beautiful thing about this approach.

It's it's not just one organ that's

healing. It's everything. And that's the

beauty of of understanding the

plant-based diet. And you know, we

learned from the experts and and we also

became experts at going, okay, these are

the foods that are actually going to

make your body change and allow your

body to change if you have the right

setup. Right? So, it's like, okay, I'm

going to focus on the foods, but I'm

also going to focus on the all these

other aspects that have brought me here,

and I'm undoing all that, you know, I'm

undoing all that damage and and

repairing that damage. Uh because in in

in the end of the day, your body is just

injured, right? it's just injured from

unhealthy living and you you've slowly

slowly been able to repair that injury

and and it's you

know there there's still lots of things

that your body will need to heal because

it's not just you know like one thing

but you know cuz it's an accumulation

and and over the years as you keep going

you're only going to get stronger and

stronger because if if this chunk of

time if you're able to do s so much in

this chunk of time like imagine in the

next 10 years uh down the track and how

you know you're going to allow your body

to not be as inflamed and and anti-

anti-inflammatory foods that you're

eating are allowing your body to not

produce free radicals and you know the

whole anti-aging thing comes in as well

where you know as you get older you're

potentially going to you know slow that

down by eating all the antioxidant rich

foods that you're eating and uh you know

having that beautiful balance of knowing

that okay, this is really good for my

gut. I'm going to go for it. And and

what's not good for my gut and I'm not

going to go for that.

Um so that that's you know to to

understand that is is one thing you know

but then to apply it you know is another

and that's where I think that helping

hand comes in from from what we do and

you know we're so blessed to be able to

do this and you know help people like

yourself and go hey well you know if you

just slowly put these things into

practice then watch your body and and

see how well it can actually heal

because in the And that's what the body

does. It heals itself. And it makes so

much sense, you know. It makes so much

sense, you know. Um I got some really

cool other cool things that we I want to

talk about because um during the

program, you

also went to Singapore. And I guess I I

want to touch on that a little bit as

well because you know there was a time

where you were quite nervous about doing

a certain thing which was obviously not

taking the biologic. Um and I guess I guess

guess

talk talk us through the eight weeks

that you were you know obviously the gap

gap's eight weeks and so you were like

okay well my symptoms are improving in

those eight weeks. do I still need to

make, you know, another injection and I

guess um

yeah, talk about that experience and

also um then traveling uh as well. You

were actually well enough to to travel

uh at that at that point because you

know you were you were doing so well and

so yeah I guess explain that. Yeah.

Yeah. Um yeah, look, I think uh as I was

going through, I was like feeling, you

know, a little bit better as time went

along. And I remember um I had a a a

trip planned to Singapore and I was

thinking I can't go. Um and it was at

the time of like you know everything

sort of shifting like my thoughts around

medication and um my thoughts around you

know just my diet shifting completely

and what am I going to eat over there

and like this this you know anxiety that

I started to get thinking about even

going out and I I guess what I really

want to say about this is that you know

I'm sure there are other people out

there that have I think everyone's

probably gone through this having you

see your Crohn's But there's the point

where you just can't leave your bed.

Like you're just bedridden. Um and so

for me, you know, that's where I was at

not too long before the Singapore trip

came up. I was like, I was bedridden a

couple of months ago, you know. Um

there's no way I can get on a plane and

go overseas for a for a week. Um and

yeah, at that time I was like, do I need

to take medication? Can I stay off it

and then go and travel? And I made the

decision with the help of you to sort of

think about that. You pushed me to, you

know, just challenge myself in that way

cuz I was really nervous. Um, and yeah,

I was, I guess I was just really nervous

to to travel and not have that those

security blankets of home, you know. Um,

and I, yeah, I went over there. Um, and

I found food that I could eat. Um, I

felt really great over there. Actually,

I think it was that change in mindset as

well. And just before that, I think, um,

before I left, I'd really sort of worked

on my mindset. You know, you can do

this, other people have done this, you

can do it, you know. Um, and so I got on

the plane quite nervous but also really

excited because I was like, "Hey, this

is happening." Um, I'm I'm on the plane.

I there's no backing out. Um, and yeah,

I was worried that I'd end up in a flare

up because I'd, you know, thought about

not taking that next biologic injection,

which I didn't. And so,

um, yeah, I I had a really great time. I

didn't end up in a flare up. I had I did

have a little bit of tummy pain and

things when I went there and I think it

was just an adjustment in the heat as

well and my body was just kind of I

think in adjustment mode. So, um but

when I came back um I made sure I got

lots of rest. I think that's the other

thing I haven't mentioned here is that

um you know just making sure that I got

lots of rest along the way, proper sleep

um that really helped. Um, and just

knowing my limits. Like I think that's

the other thing I should probably

mention too is like knowing what my

limit was when when I was, you know, um,

was over there was really important, but

also just in general like being able to

kind of, you know, get good sleep. Um,

good sleep hygiene has been massive um,

in my turnaround, I would say. Um but

yeah, going to Singapore um really

opened my eyes to the fact that I can do

this and now you know with work I've

traveled quite a bit interstate stayed

in places that you know regional remote

places and I've been really lucky to not

have to rely on any anything anyone I

know I'm really confident in myself in

terms of being able to travel and that I

think that's a big thing for people with

Crohn's or you say it's like you feel

like you can't go anywhere you're bound to

bathroom all the time or you know you've

got your routine and that's your your

security blanket and you're almost

unable to see how that those things are

possible. Um and I'm really fortunate

enough that you push me to challenge

myself to do those things because I

wouldn't have been able to do it if it

weren't for you. And um I think now I

look back on that and I'm like, "Wow, I

can go travel anywhere and I can jump on

a plane and feel confident that I'm not

going to be running to the bathroom

every 5 minutes or, you know, um or that

I'm going to end up in a flare up, a big

flare or something like I feel like I'm

confident enough to do that stuff now,

which is an amazing um turnaround from where I was um previously." Yeah. Yeah.

where I was um previously." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and I guess going to

Yeah. Yeah. And and I guess going to Singapore is is quite it's out of the

Singapore is is quite it's out of the country as well. So like you're not

country as well. So like you're not you're going really out of your comfort

you're going really out of your comfort zone. Um and remember when I said this

zone. Um and remember when I said this to you that in order to actually be

to you that in order to actually be comfortable, you have to be

comfortable, you have to be uncomfortable, right? And so you chose

uncomfortable, right? And so you chose the uncomfortable path to then

the uncomfortable path to then understand that hey, it's not actually

understand that hey, it's not actually that uncomfortable. I can do it, you

that uncomfortable. I can do it, you know? And I think that's that was your

know? And I think that's that was your stepping stone to freeing yourself from

stepping stone to freeing yourself from that anxiety. Uh so uh yeah and also

that anxiety. Uh so uh yeah and also having that confidence to be like I can

having that confidence to be like I can actually do this um you know and and not

actually do this um you know and and not not feel sorry for myself or not feel

not feel sorry for myself or not feel like I'm not good enough you know that's

like I'm not good enough you know that's a big one you know cuz it was very much

a big one you know cuz it was very much like that where you know a lot of people

like that where you know a lot of people do feel this it's not just yourself and

do feel this it's not just yourself and and at times you know for me too like

and at times you know for me too like sometimes that does cross my mind but

sometimes that does cross my mind but then I'm like no because I've I've gone

then I'm like no because I've I've gone through so

through so you know, and and this is what it does.

you know, and and this is what it does. It leads you to a better place because

It leads you to a better place because you realize your worth, right? Like you

you realize your worth, right? Like you realize that you're worth so much more

realize that you're worth so much more than what you were before. And how how

than what you were before. And how how much of a profound effect that has on on

much of a profound effect that has on on your life going forward. And and every

your life going forward. And and every little experience, every step

little experience, every step forward makes you stronger. you know, it

forward makes you stronger. you know, it strengthens your ability to make

strengthens your ability to make decisions and to actually come through

decisions and to actually come through those decisions. And definitely there's

those decisions. And definitely there's going to be some decisions that are not

going to be some decisions that are not going to go your way, but those are

going to go your way, but those are actually decisions that actually make

actually decisions that actually make you stronger because then you can

you stronger because then you can actually be like, "Okay, what what can I

actually be like, "Okay, what what can I do better next time?" You know? Yeah.

do better next time?" You know? Yeah. And that's why life is is never a

And that's why life is is never a failure, you know? You always learn.

failure, you know? You always learn. It's always a learning opportunity. It's

It's always a learning opportunity. It's never a failure. And

never a failure. And we should never see it as a failure if

we should never see it as a failure if you make a mistake or whatever. It's

you make a mistake or whatever. It's it's you know there's so much learning

it's you know there's so much learning there for you and um you know it it's

there for you and um you know it it's incredible

incredible that you know the things that you've

that you know the things that you've been able to do um you know from from in

been able to do um you know from from in such a short period of time as well. It

such a short period of time as well. It wasn't actually that that long where you

wasn't actually that that long where you had so many issues. It was it was like

had so many issues. It was it was like every week you you'd see something you

every week you you'd see something you know see something change and then every

know see something change and then every month you'd go would reflect on that

month you'd go would reflect on that month and it would be like okay this is

month and it would be like okay this is where you were and then I' I'd go back

where you were and then I' I'd go back to my notes and be like okay stomach

to my notes and be like okay stomach pain you know period pain and then the

pain you know period pain and then the month after that was like oh stomach

month after that was like oh stomach pain is not really there anymore uh

pain is not really there anymore uh fevers are gone I don't have to lie in

fevers are gone I don't have to lie in bed for so long in the morning remember

bed for so long in the morning remember that

that and like hey I can I can get up yeah

and like hey I can I can get up yeah you're like I can get up I feel I feel

you're like I can get up I feel I feel energized today and and and fatigue was

energized today and and and fatigue was I something that you struggled with a

I something that you struggled with a lot, right? Even before

lot, right? Even before Yeah. Yeah. And I still do, I have to

Yeah. Yeah. And I still do, I have to say. And it's not it's not because of

say. And it's not it's not because of anyone thing. I um Yeah. I have I've

anyone thing. I um Yeah. I have I've figured out that I have something called

figured out that I have something called mildmia, which is a um where your cells

mildmia, which is a um where your cells uh don't get enough iron to them. So

uh don't get enough iron to them. So basically you can have a lot of iron um

basically you can have a lot of iron um and yeah it's just your body doesn't

and yeah it's just your body doesn't kind of hold store that iron properly.

kind of hold store that iron properly. Um so yeah in saying that I just have to

Um so yeah in saying that I just have to make sure that I eat lots of iron rich

make sure that I eat lots of iron rich foods. Um I can take a supplement which

foods. Um I can take a supplement which I had done in the past but I don't

I had done in the past but I don't anymore. But I've been managing to get

anymore. But I've been managing to get my iron up for the first time ever. It's

my iron up for the first time ever. It's been more than um 10. So it's always

been more than um 10. So it's always been around like four or five or like

been around like four or five or like super low. Um, and since starting the

super low. Um, and since starting the whole food plant-based diet with you

whole food plant-based diet with you guys, um, and obviously changing my

guys, um, and obviously changing my lifestyle completely then, um, it, yeah,

lifestyle completely then, um, it, yeah, it's been up around like 11 to 15. So,

it's been up around like 11 to 15. So, like, it's it's it's been good. Um, but

like, it's it's it's been good. Um, but yeah, definitely fatigue I think was my

yeah, definitely fatigue I think was my biggest issue with Crohn's. Like, I

biggest issue with Crohn's. Like, I couldn't get out of bed. I couldn't even

couldn't get out of bed. I couldn't even walk very much. Um, I know that we've

walk very much. Um, I know that we've all, those of us that have had this have

all, those of us that have had this have all been there. like you just don't have

all been there. like you just don't have any energy at all and you don't feel

any energy at all and you don't feel like you're ever going to get that

like you're ever going to get that energy back which is really sad and

energy back which is really sad and horrible because you're stuck in that

horrible because you're stuck in that mindset of like am I ever going to feel

mindset of like am I ever going to feel good again and guess what you are. Um so

good again and guess what you are. Um so yeah, now I'm able to like exercise

yeah, now I'm able to like exercise again and I've built myself up to like

again and I've built myself up to like go to the gym again which I never

go to the gym again which I never thought was going to be possible. Like

thought was going to be possible. Like that's a massive Now that I think back

that's a massive Now that I think back I'm like whoa. Like

I'm like whoa. Like that's something I never thought I'd be

that's something I never thought I'd be doing. Signing up for a gym membership,

doing. Signing up for a gym membership, that's for sure. Um in terms of like

that's for sure. Um in terms of like where I was at, like I'd always, you

where I was at, like I'd always, you know, been to the gym here and there,

know, been to the gym here and there, but um like and I've always exercised,

but um like and I've always exercised, but in terms of that regular like, you

but in terms of that regular like, you know, stretching, weights, cardio, like

know, stretching, weights, cardio, like all of that stuff is now my regular, you

all of that stuff is now my regular, you know, part of my daily life, which is so

know, part of my daily life, which is so amazing.

amazing. You know, do you know what? There's one

You know, do you know what? There's one word that that sticks out to me is

word that that sticks out to me is sustainable. Your your is now so

sustainable. Your your is now so sustainable and it's it's steady, you

sustainable and it's it's steady, you know. There's no

know. There's no fluctuations as much as it was before,

fluctuations as much as it was before, you know, cuz if you didn't have that

you know, cuz if you didn't have that structure and if you didn't have that

structure and if you didn't have that like

like sustainability, you know, you wouldn't

sustainability, you know, you wouldn't be able to do the things that you're

be able to do the things that you're doing today. And and because of that,

doing today. And and because of that, you're able to continue to do the things

you're able to continue to do the things that you're doing today. You know, it's

that you're doing today. You know, it's that stability, the the sustainability,

that stability, the the sustainability, and the structure, like the three S's.

and the structure, like the three S's. And

And it's amazing. And and you've done this

it's amazing. And and you've done this all by yourself, you know? It's like,

all by yourself, you know? It's like, all right, Lissa, today I'm going to

all right, Lissa, today I'm going to wake up in the morning and I'm going to

wake up in the morning and I'm going to think a certain way. And you can either

think a certain way. And you can either think something good or you can play

think something good or you can play victim and be like, I can't I can't be

victim and be like, I can't I can't be bothered doing this today, you know?

bothered doing this today, you know? Yeah. And and that is the choice that we

Yeah. And and that is the choice that we have. And look at the choices that

have. And look at the choices that you've made. You've made amazing choices

you've made. You've made amazing choices in your life that are now giving you the

in your life that are now giving you the results that you've always wanted, you

results that you've always wanted, you know, and it's incredible to to think

know, and it's incredible to to think that someone else can do this, you know,

that someone else can do this, you know, like I I made the same choices, right,

like I I made the same choices, right, in my life that I'm like, I don't want

in my life that I'm like, I don't want to be sick. I don't want to take

to be sick. I don't want to take medicine for the rest of my life. I

medicine for the rest of my life. I don't want this disease to,

don't want this disease to, you

you know, like I don't want this condition

know, like I don't want this condition to play my like play out my life. Like

to play my like play out my life. Like this is not I'm not I don't have this

this is not I'm not I don't have this condition, you know. I don't want it.

condition, you know. I don't want it. Yeah. Uh and so that feeling

Yeah. Uh and so that feeling I think you're you're getting it, you

I think you're you're getting it, you know, and you've got it in in a way that

know, and you've got it in in a way that it doesn't control you anymore. This

it doesn't control you anymore. This this way of life has has changed that

this way of life has has changed that for you so much. Uh you know that it

for you so much. Uh you know that it really has. Yeah. It's such a beautiful

really has. Yeah. It's such a beautiful feeling, too, isn't it? When you're when

feeling, too, isn't it? When you're when you're free from from knowing that,

you're free from from knowing that, okay, you're not going to actually be

okay, you're not going to actually be sick because you take control of that

sick because you take control of that and you go, okay, I'm doing certain

and you go, okay, I'm doing certain things that allow me to not feel the way

things that allow me to not feel the way I used to feel. Uh, and it's not like

I used to feel. Uh, and it's not like you're never going to have a bad day,

you're never going to have a bad day, but it's like you can it's you can stay

but it's like you can it's you can stay on top of it, right? You don't let the

on top of it, right? You don't let the bad days get even worse.

bad days get even worse. That's right. you're able to regulate

That's right. you're able to regulate your emotions a bit more, I think. Yeah.

your emotions a bit more, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think let let's just

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think let let's just finish up, I guess, and and just touch

finish up, I guess, and and just touch on um like what your life is like now.

on um like what your life is like now. Um I guess some of the work that you've

Um I guess some of the work that you've been doing uh going and traveling in

been doing uh going and traveling in Australia and and you know, talk talk

Australia and and you know, talk talk about that experience and and talk about

about that experience and and talk about the foods that you've been able to eat

the foods that you've been able to eat and like how happy you are with what you

and like how happy you are with what you what what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah.

what what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Um yeah, look, my life

Yeah. Thank you. Um yeah, look, my life now looks remarkably different to what

now looks remarkably different to what it did um I would say even 6 months ago

it did um I would say even 6 months ago to a year ago. Like it's just um been

to a year ago. Like it's just um been remarkably better um in every which way.

remarkably better um in every which way. Um and I guess I'll start by sort of

Um and I guess I'll start by sort of saying my mental health has improved

saying my mental health has improved massively. Um I don't feel anxiety

massively. Um I don't feel anxiety anymore. I don't have that sense of

anymore. I don't have that sense of fear. Um, I have days where I'm like,

fear. Um, I have days where I'm like, you know, I feel down or I feel a bit,

you know, I feel down or I feel a bit, you know, I think we all have those.

you know, I think we all have those. But, um, that was my everyday for a long

But, um, that was my everyday for a long time. And so I think my body was in

time. And so I think my body was in this, um, I guess this state of protect,

this, um, I guess this state of protect, protect, protect. Um, and so that really

protect, protect. Um, and so that really didn't help help me at all. um I was

didn't help help me at all. um I was always sort of that living in that fear

always sort of that living in that fear like what if you know what if my body

like what if you know what if my body doesn't come out of this or you know all

doesn't come out of this or you know all these what ifs like really thinking

these what ifs like really thinking negatively and so that's really shifted

negatively and so that's really shifted and now I have such a positive outlook

and now I have such a positive outlook um I trust my body I can trust what it's

um I trust my body I can trust what it's going to do um I trust that it's healed

going to do um I trust that it's healed or healing still you know um and that's

or healing still you know um and that's massive like that complete turnaround in

massive like that complete turnaround in my life has been I would say one of the

my life has been I would say one of the things. Um but yeah, I think uh

things. Um but yeah, I think uh physically I'm able to exercise like I

physically I'm able to exercise like I mentioned. I'm able to move. I'm able to

mentioned. I'm able to move. I'm able to travel, you know, with work. Um last

travel, you know, with work. Um last week I was traveling um going to

week I was traveling um going to regional parts of Australia and um

regional parts of Australia and um that's pretty amazing. Like I never

that's pretty amazing. Like I never thought that I'd be able to do that. Um,

thought that I'd be able to do that. Um, and also just like long car trips or,

and also just like long car trips or, you know, without a bathroom nearby,

you know, without a bathroom nearby, like all of those things that you, you

like all of those things that you, you know, get so anxious about when you have

know, get so anxious about when you have um, Crohn's or UC where you're like, you

um, Crohn's or UC where you're like, you know, I I remember I had the the

know, I I remember I had the the bathroom app on my phone, like trying to

bathroom app on my phone, like trying to find like map out where I could

find like map out where I could potentially go if I was away from home

potentially go if I was away from home for like half an hour, just making sure.

for like half an hour, just making sure. like that's a horrible feeling to have

like that's a horrible feeling to have to constantly be worried about that. Um,

to constantly be worried about that. Um, and so yeah, I don't I no longer have

and so yeah, I don't I no longer have that anxiety and that fear of like

that anxiety and that fear of like having to to do all that. I I know I'm

having to to do all that. I I know I'm confident that I don't need to rely on

confident that I don't need to rely on going to the bathroom every 5 minutes.

going to the bathroom every 5 minutes. Not that I ever really did, but I'd have

Not that I ever really did, but I'd have urgencies for sure. Um, and I needed to

urgencies for sure. Um, and I needed to know to feel in order to feel better and

know to feel in order to feel better and to feel okay going out of the house, I

to feel okay going out of the house, I needed to know that they they were there

needed to know that they they were there in place and I knew where they I could

in place and I knew where they I could locate them. Um, I don't have any of

locate them. Um, I don't have any of that anymore. Um, I also am able to um,

that anymore. Um, I also am able to um, you know, exercise whenever I like. Like

you know, exercise whenever I like. Like if I wake up in the morning, I'm like,

if I wake up in the morning, I'm like, "Oh, I feel a bit tired." But e exercise

"Oh, I feel a bit tired." But e exercise seems to help with my fatigue. Um, which

seems to help with my fatigue. Um, which is awesome due to the low iron and um,

is awesome due to the low iron and um, so I'm able to do the things that I have

so I'm able to do the things that I have always wanted to do. Um, and now I'm

always wanted to do. Um, and now I'm able to do them with intent, if that

able to do them with intent, if that makes sense. Like I'm able to

makes sense. Like I'm able to intentionally

intentionally um, exercise. I'm able to intentionally

um, exercise. I'm able to intentionally like uh, go out socially and not worry.

like uh, go out socially and not worry. Um, and and do that with the the best

Um, and and do that with the the best intentions for myself. um like not just

intentions for myself. um like not just go out cuz I you know feel like I can,

go out cuz I you know feel like I can, but like really enjoy the fact that I'm

but like really enjoy the fact that I'm now in such a better place that I can

now in such a better place that I can enjoy myself. I deserve to be able to

enjoy myself. I deserve to be able to enjoy myself without having to think

enjoy myself without having to think about all of these other things worry in

about all of these other things worry in the background. Um you know, as I

the background. Um you know, as I mentioned before, my periods have been

mentioned before, my periods have been better. I'm not, you know, locked in at

better. I'm not, you know, locked in at home thinking, "Oh god, I've got this

home thinking, "Oh god, I've got this pain and I'm not feeling great and I

pain and I'm not feeling great and I can't go out and, you know, that's all

can't go out and, you know, that's all lifted." And I think that's really made

lifted." And I think that's really made me more confident as a person at large.

me more confident as a person at large. But um I think what's really helped um

But um I think what's really helped um me to feel more confident also is the

me to feel more confident also is the fact that um I can now eat what I want.

fact that um I can now eat what I want. like I can have obviously I've stuck to

like I can have obviously I've stuck to the whole foods plant-based diet. Um,

the whole foods plant-based diet. Um, and that's significantly changed my

and that's significantly changed my life. Um, but I can now have what I

life. Um, but I can now have what I want. Like I can go out to, you know, a

want. Like I can go out to, you know, a really nice vegan plant-based

really nice vegan plant-based restaurant. Um, and I can eat foods

restaurant. Um, and I can eat foods there and not feel like, you know,

there and not feel like, you know, guilty or like feel weird about putting

guilty or like feel weird about putting that in my body because I know that I'm,

that in my body because I know that I'm, you know, putting really clean, good

you know, putting really clean, good foods in my body. So, that's changed.

foods in my body. So, that's changed. I'm able to be more social um as well

I'm able to be more social um as well because of that. Um and I've met some

because of that. Um and I've met some really great people through this like

really great people through this like through my, you know, newfound

through my, you know, newfound confidence and the way that I

confidence and the way that I now I'm I'm more open um than I once

now I'm I'm more open um than I once was. And I think that is, you know, I

was. And I think that is, you know, I think that's a massive achievement and a

think that's a massive achievement and a massive um difference in my life. That's

massive um difference in my life. That's what my life looks like now. happy,

what my life looks like now. happy, open, honest. Um, and being able to lead

open, honest. Um, and being able to lead my life with intent. I think that

my life with intent. I think that they're the main things. Um, and I don't

they're the main things. Um, and I don't feel held back by anything or anyone. um

feel held back by anything or anyone. um I'm able to kind of make decisions based

I'm able to kind of make decisions based on me and how I feel and um yeah and not

on me and how I feel and um yeah and not people please or be at the mercy of that

people please or be at the mercy of that anymore because yes you can please

anymore because yes you can please people and I think that's great to do

people and I think that's great to do but not at the detriment of your own

but not at the detriment of your own self. Um and so um yeah my life looks um

self. Um and so um yeah my life looks um like the life I want to lead.

like the life I want to lead. Yeah, well said. Like that that was just

Yeah, well said. Like that that was just amazing and and just the fact that you

amazing and and just the fact that you know the the idea behind the intent of

know the the idea behind the intent of doing something whereas before there was

doing something whereas before there was always something holding you back and

always something holding you back and that was the Crohn's, you know, whereas

that was the Crohn's, you know, whereas now you're you don't need that anymore

now you're you don't need that anymore to get in the way. And that that's huge.

to get in the way. And that that's huge. I think that's I mean I I can say that

I think that's I mean I I can say that for myself too like you know I you

for myself too like you know I you you're in a very good place and you know

you're in a very good place and you know I feel that because I I also am in that

I feel that because I I also am in that place where that that thing the back of

place where that that thing the back of your that monkey on your back is gone

your that monkey on your back is gone you know like it's like it's not it's

you know like it's like it's not it's not there anymore. you don't need to

not there anymore. you don't need to actually worry about all the things that

actually worry about all the things that you you've just talked about, you know,

you you've just talked about, you know, where the toilets are or just not being

where the toilets are or just not being able to get up in the morning and be

able to get up in the morning and be like, "All right, I want to go and do

like, "All right, I want to go and do something." Well, I can't because I

something." Well, I can't because I either and in so much pain or I need to

either and in so much pain or I need to go to the toilet, you know? And that

go to the toilet, you know? And that that's been a a huge revelation for you

that's been a a huge revelation for you and and that like to to just,

and and that like to to just, you know, be able to do anything at any

you know, be able to do anything at any time, you know, that that's that's

time, you know, that that's that's freedom. True freedom right there. That

freedom. True freedom right there. That is true freedom. And it's and it's

is true freedom. And it's and it's freedom that you won't get if you sort

freedom that you won't get if you sort of may have still been taking these

of may have still been taking these medications. I I don't believe it's

medications. I I don't believe it's going to give you the same outlook and

going to give you the same outlook and it's going to be the same uh for you

it's going to be the same uh for you because you I guess you you'd experience

because you I guess you you'd experience what it was like to take the medicine

what it was like to take the medicine and not have that many symptoms, but it

and not have that many symptoms, but it just it's not the same, you know. It's

just it's not the same, you know. It's just not the same. No. No, it's not. No.

just not the same. No. No, it's not. No. Yeah. I was just as I mentioned before

Yeah. I was just as I mentioned before like the you know the first lot of

like the you know the first lot of medication I took I was like is this

medication I took I was like is this what my life is going to look like like

what my life is going to look like like this is worse you know um and so yeah

this is worse you know um and so yeah just questioning that stuff was really

just questioning that stuff was really important but yeah I think at the end of

important but yeah I think at the end of the day you know being cur curious about

the day you know being cur curious about this stuff and and being open I think is

this stuff and and being open I think is the best thing that you can do for

the best thing that you can do for yourself. Yeah. And also take take

yourself. Yeah. And also take take control of of the decisions that you

control of of the decisions that you make. Like I am doing this for myself.

make. Like I am doing this for myself. I'm not doing it for anyone else. You

I'm not doing it for anyone else. You know, I need to do this for myself. If I

know, I need to do this for myself. If I want to get better, it's like I have to

want to get better, it's like I have to make I have to do this. And no one else

make I have to do this. And no one else is here to save me. No one else is here

is here to save me. No one else is here to save me. You know, if if I don't do

to save me. You know, if if I don't do the things that I'm doing, then I'm not

the things that I'm doing, then I'm not going to be where I want to be. And that

going to be where I want to be. And that that goes for anything, isn't it? It's

that goes for anything, isn't it? It's not just healing. It's like if you if

not just healing. It's like if you if you want to do something, you've got to

you want to do something, you've got to go and chase it. You can't just sit

go and chase it. You can't just sit there and be like, "Oh, I let it come to

there and be like, "Oh, I let it come to you." You need to chase it. You need to

you." You need to chase it. You need to go after it and do whatever it takes to

go after it and do whatever it takes to get there, you know? And yeah, you

get there, you know? And yeah, you you're a great example of that because

you're a great example of that because you took a situation, you go, I don't

you took a situation, you go, I don't want to be like this. How could I do

want to be like this. How could I do something about it? Did something about

something about it? Did something about it? And you're in a in a in a beautiful

it? And you're in a in a in a beautiful place right now. and and long may it

place right now. and and long may it continue cuz it will because you're you

continue cuz it will because you're you know the person that you are now it's

know the person that you are now it's totally different to where you were

totally different to where you were before and that change has enabled your

before and that change has enabled your body to work properly you know all your

body to work properly you know all your your cylinders are firing you know and

your cylinders are firing you know and it's not like one's not working properly

it's not like one's not working properly because you understood you knew what to

because you understood you knew what to put you knew what fuel to put in so that

put you knew what fuel to put in so that engine can work to its optimum and

engine can work to its optimum and obviously there's always going to be

obviously there's always going to be room for improvement everywhere in your

room for improvement everywhere in your life and as every year gets

life and as every year gets better, things start to get better. You

better, things start to get better. You know, it works. It works so well that

know, it works. It works so well that you know the fuel that you put in and

you know the fuel that you put in and the mixture that that happens and it

the mixture that that happens and it just all fires and it just all works

just all fires and it just all works better and better and better as you go

better and better and better as you go along. And I think that's something to

along. And I think that's something to look forward to because it's like you're

look forward to because it's like you're in this position. It's like, oh yeah,

in this position. It's like, oh yeah, cool. like I've I've gotten out of a

cool. like I've I've gotten out of a really really sticky

really really sticky situation and like it's like okay as you

situation and like it's like okay as you feel the way you feel you're going to be

feel the way you feel you're going to be like well if I keep continuing to do

like well if I keep continuing to do this I'm going to keep feeling better

this I'm going to keep feeling better you know it's like it never ends um

you know it's like it never ends um so yeah well done well done uh to you

so yeah well done well done uh to you Lissa and I think it it's you know it's

Lissa and I think it it's you know it's telling you can see it like I mean it's

telling you can see it like I mean it's it's for you to see for yourself uh you

it's for you to see for yourself uh you know first and formost most because it's

know first and formost most because it's not about anyone else. It's about your

not about anyone else. It's about your life. It's about you taking control of

life. It's about you taking control of your life and going, "What do I really

your life and going, "What do I really want?" You know? Yeah. And and you've

want?" You know? Yeah. And and you've been able to really see through that and

been able to really see through that and go get it. And and I'm so proud of you.

go get it. And and I'm so proud of you. I'm I'm I'm I'm It's been amazing to to

I'm I'm I'm I'm It's been amazing to to see you flourish, you know, and like to

see you flourish, you know, and like to see you go from where you were to where

see you go from where you were to where you are now, like this bright, you know,

you are now, like this bright, you know, person that like wants to go and do

person that like wants to go and do stuff, whereas before it was more, you

stuff, whereas before it was more, you know, reserved based on, you know, the

know, reserved based on, you know, the things that you you had going for you.

things that you you had going for you. So, um I guess the last thing I' I'd say

So, um I guess the last thing I' I'd say is, uh what would you say to anyone

is, uh what would you say to anyone that's watching this video?

that's watching this video? Yeah, that's a good question. Um, I

Yeah, that's a good question. Um, I would say don't be scared to be open

would say don't be scared to be open to this program. I like please go ahead

to this program. I like please go ahead and reach out to Shmese and Shul at High

and reach out to Shmese and Shul at High Carb Health because uh they will show

Carb Health because uh they will show you a different way. Um they're both

you a different way. Um they're both amazing and um don't be scared of trying

amazing and um don't be scared of trying something different that is outside of

something different that is outside of you know a normal medical system. Um I'd

you know a normal medical system. Um I'd say don't believe everything that you're

say don't believe everything that you're told. Um qu like be there to question

told. Um qu like be there to question that. Um, and yeah, you can still use

that. Um, and yeah, you can still use doctors in certain ways and you know, I

doctors in certain ways and you know, I still go and see my gastro and you know,

still go and see my gastro and you know, she's amazed at how well that I've been

she's amazed at how well that I've been doing. And um, that's all well and good,

doing. And um, that's all well and good, but don't be afraid to question things.

but don't be afraid to question things. Um, and at first I was just, you know, I

Um, and at first I was just, you know, I was in such a bad place that I

was in such a bad place that I was, you know, just taking what the

was, you know, just taking what the doctors said on and following what they

doctors said on and following what they said. But then there was a part of me

said. But then there was a part of me that was like, "No, let's let's see what

that was like, "No, let's let's see what else there is. Let's question. Let's do

else there is. Let's question. Let's do some research. Read." You know, I would

some research. Read." You know, I would say do all of those things for yourself

say do all of those things for yourself because that's important. Um maybe it's

because that's important. Um maybe it's not the avenue you thought you'd go

not the avenue you thought you'd go down, but at least give it a go and be

down, but at least give it a go and be open to to trying. Um reach out to High

open to to trying. Um reach out to High Carb Health. Um I think what's amazing

Carb Health. Um I think what's amazing is is that there's no silly questions.

is is that there's no silly questions. You can probably back that up, Shmese,

You can probably back that up, Shmese, but there there isn't anything silly um

but there there isn't anything silly um about asking different questions.

about asking different questions. They're there for you. Um and they've

They're there for you. Um and they've got your best interest at heart. I think

got your best interest at heart. I think that's what why I loved working with you

that's what why I loved working with you guys is, you know, is because you you

guys is, you know, is because you you offered that, as I said, holistic

offered that, as I said, holistic approach, but also

approach, but also um you know, you guided really well. Um

um you know, you guided really well. Um and so it didn't make me feel nervous or

and so it didn't make me feel nervous or scared. made me feel really good about

scared. made me feel really good about the whole process and now I'm in the

the whole process and now I'm in the best position I can be um because of of

best position I can be um because of of you guys. So I would say um you know

you guys. So I would say um you know really think about um your choices for

really think about um your choices for yourself and and think about what would

yourself and and think about what would work best for you. Um and also um you

work best for you. Um and also um you know in order to get to a really good

know in order to get to a really good place as you said before Shmese you have

place as you said before Shmese you have to go through that uncomfortable stage

to go through that uncomfortable stage and that stage of not feeling so great

and that stage of not feeling so great and not feeling the best. um and you

and not feeling the best. um and you have really horrible days, but um then

have really horrible days, but um then you just have to remember I think that's

you just have to remember I think that's something I forgot along the way was um

something I forgot along the way was um that that's not forever. Um you know

that that's not forever. Um you know that's not a forever feeling. Um if you

that's not a forever feeling. Um if you don't want it to be um so you have the

don't want it to be um so you have the choices um it's what you do with those

choices um it's what you do with those choices and how you make those choices

choices and how you make those choices that really count. So um yeah, be your

that really count. So um yeah, be your be your own advocate I would say.

be your own advocate I would say. Yeah, absolutely. And you hit the nail

Yeah, absolutely. And you hit the nail there. And uh you know, Lissa, you now

there. And uh you know, Lissa, you now have a life after Crohn's, which is

have a life after Crohn's, which is amazing. And I'm so proud of you. And

amazing. And I'm so proud of you. And I'm so grateful that uh you know, and

I'm so grateful that uh you know, and and this is the cool thing about the the

and this is the cool thing about the the work that I do. Like you you become

work that I do. Like you you become friends, you know, and it's great that

friends, you know, and it's great that you you know, I've been able to be part

you you know, I've been able to be part of your life and you've been able to be

of your life and you've been able to be part of mine. And it's so cool to be

part of mine. And it's so cool to be able to like, you know, engage with that

able to like, you know, engage with that and and you know, obviously when if

and and you know, obviously when if you're ever up here in North Queensland,

you're ever up here in North Queensland, far north Queensland, then, you know,

far north Queensland, then, you know, come visit. Um, oh, 100%. I will. Yeah.

come visit. Um, oh, 100%. I will. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so I don't know if I'll

Yeah. Yeah. And so I don't know if I'll come down where you are, but it was

come down where you are, but it was understandable.

understandable. But no, um, yeah, just uh, yeah, thank

But no, um, yeah, just uh, yeah, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so

you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for, you know, sharing your story.

much for, you know, sharing your story. I'm sure someone out there, you know,

I'm sure someone out there, you know, will will take a look at this and and

will will take a look at this and and really see that, you know, they might

really see that, you know, they might see themselves as well. And I guess

see themselves as well. And I guess that's the whole point of this is to,

that's the whole point of this is to, you know, share people's, you know,

you know, share people's, you know, success and and obviously how they've

success and and obviously how they've been able to do this, you know, and

been able to do this, you know, and and it's it's it's incredible when

and it's it's it's incredible when you've been told that you can't do

you've been told that you can't do something, you know, then you go and do

something, you know, then you go and do it and and you change that for yourself.

it and and you change that for yourself. It's it's that's empowering, isn't it?

It's it's that's empowering, isn't it? It's empowering when you can do that.

It's empowering when you can do that. So, uh really proud of you. Really

So, uh really proud of you. Really thankful that uh you know you you were

thankful that uh you know you you were able to reach out to us and and you know

able to reach out to us and and you know come through and and here you are you

come through and and here you are you know sharing your story. So yeah,

know sharing your story. So yeah, appreciate it and um yeah, just lovely

appreciate it and um yeah, just lovely to see you again and uh yeah, take care

to see you again and uh yeah, take care of yourself and discontinue.

of yourself and discontinue. Yes. Yes, I'll be in touch for sure.

Yes. Yes, I'll be in touch for sure. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much. [Music]

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