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3 weeks before the 2020 us election a
very big and very strange story broke in
the papers we've just learned through
explosive documents published by a very
fine newspaper the New York Post Donald
Trump thought that these documents found
on an apparently abandoned laptop
belonging to Joe Biden's son Hunter
proved that Joe Biden was involved in
corrupt business dealings in Ukraine and
China these emails show that Biden's
repeated claim that he has never spoken
to Hunter about his business dealings
were a complete lie was a total lie
Trump had been waiting for this story
for years and this is a big Smoking Gun
but this New York Post article seemed
suspicious the concern is well that it's
simply bunkum the result of a Russian
Hack and misinformation campaign the FBI
now has the laptop and is investigating
possible links to foreign intelligence
agencies accusing Western politicians of
hypocrisy is the central plank of
Russian disinformation campaigns and
that's what this story did Joe Biden was
accusing Donald Trump of corruption and
being under the influence of foreign
governments and this story indicated
that Biden was doing the exact same
thing Stone Cold crooked most global
news outlets and social media companies
were suspicious too the FBI had put
everyone on high alert for Russian
disinformation in the frenzy of that
news cycle I also wrote an article
expressing skepticism about the
Providence of those emails it was not my
best work and right on Q Facebook and
Twitter have taken the rather
extraordinary step of blocking any link
to the New York Post story of course in
the United States of America land of
free speech this move was like dynamite
now big Tech you see what's going on
with big Tech is censoring these stories
to try and get Biden out of this
impossible gem he's in a big Jam Trump's
team accused the US intelligence
Community big tech companies and the
mainstream media of acting like a cabal
to protect the Biden family from
criticism and the thing is this time
they actually did have a point because
these documents weren't leaked as a
result of hacking or misinformation in
fact had nothing to do with Russia at
all this laptop which was real has put
Hunter Biden at the center of multiple
conspiracy theories and criminal
investigations those investigations led
to prosecutions which proceeded without
interference from Hunter's Daddy I mean
President Biden and have you ruled out a
pardon for your son yes Biden was making
an effort to wipe away the conspiracies
and restore confidence in the American
judicial system after years of turn on
but then the outgoing President Joe
Biden issuing a statement saying he had
signed a pardon for his son alleging
Hunter Biden was a victim of political
persecution it was an extraordinary act
call it shocking hypocritical
compassionate or whatever but if your
aim is to protect the reputation of the
American justice system this ain't how
you do it today I want to look at the
potential ramifications of Joe Biden's decision
decision
and why we should have seen it coming all
all
along I'm Matt Biven and this is if you're
listening on the 27th of August 2020
just under 10 weeks before the 2020
election an email came into Rudy
giuliani's inbox that looked very
interesting it was from someone called
John Paul Mac Isaac and it said for
almost a year I have been trying to get
the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop to
the proper
authorities now for Rudy Giuliani this
was extremely interesting
wow because for years he'd been running
a quote unquote investigation into
Democratic party presidential candidate
Joe Biden's family business dealings who
knows what they've done I mean it is it
is a crime family he was particularly
interested in Joe Biden's son Hunter who
had made a whole lot of money trading
off the family name name in Ukraine and
China giuliani's investigation had not
gone well at all it actually triggered
Donald Trump's first impeachment which
we talked about at length in season
three of this podcast I think but the
email was very enticing even though the
story behind it was odd well I mean it
all started when it Hunter didn't pay
his $85 Bill the guy who sent that email
John Paul ma ISAC is a trump supporting
conspiracy theorist who owns a computer
shop in inton Delaware home of the Biden
family the world is a blur to him he is
legally blind but with the help of
magnification he is able to operate and
repair computers on the 20th of April
2019 a Friday just before closing time a
man that Isaac thought was drunk entered
the shop he came in he was a mess he had
three laptops one of them said Bo Biden
Foundation oh by the way this is from a
conversation with Isaac on giuliani's
Common Sense podcast last year I just
thought he was trying to get his dead
brother's memories off the laptop I felt
bad for the guy that's why I only
charged him 85 bucks due to his vision
impairment Isaac couldn't definitively
say that the man dropping off the
laptops was Hunter Biden but the man did
sign the invoice with a scribbly
signature that looks remarkably similar
to the scribbly signature that Hunter
Biden uses on other official documents
so this apparently drunk man with Hunter
Biden's exact signature
dropped these broken laptops off but
then never came back to get them he
never paid his bill and he never
answered Isaac's calls oops at the
bottom of the receipt he signed it says
equipment left with the Mac shop after
90 days of notification of completed
service will be treated as
abandoned so Isaac treated the laptops
as abandoned and started snooping
through them what he found was 2117 GB
of hunt by deepest darkest Secrets bank
statements emails texts photos videos
thousands of
them you've probably seen some of the
stuff that's on this laptop the photos
of Hunter Biden smoking crack cocaine
naked in motel
rooms but that's really just the tip of the
the
iceberg this is the daughter of a man
who decided inexplicably to meticulously
docu me his
self-destruction you look at it all and
go jeez a lot of this has got to be
illegal I've read about this stuff a lot
before but it's one thing reading about
it and another thing seeing the pictures
the emails the texts and it's honestly
way worse than I imagined it's clearly genuine
genuine
too this wasn't some AI generated stuff
cooked up in a a Russian troll Farm
unless the reanimated corpse of dooi or
COV is in there calling the shots I
don't think the Russian cyber squads are
capable of coming up with something this desperately
desperately
sad the first memory I have is of lying
in a hospital bed next to my
brother I was almost 3 years old this is
Hunter Biden speaking at his brother Bo
Biden's funeral funeral in 2015 I
remember my brother who was one year and
one day older than
me holding my
eyes
saying I love you I love you I love you
over and over and over
again they were in the hospital because
they had been in a terrible car accident
that killed their mother and their baby
sister it was
1972 And in the 42 years
hand he never stopped telling me just
how much he loves
me just before the accident their father
Joe Biden had been elected as a US
senator but at their bedside in the
hospital he promised he would resign if
necessary uh if in 6 months or so
there's a conflict between my being a
good father and being a good Senator
which I hope will not occur I thought
would but I hope it won't uh I promise
you that I will uh will contact Governor
El tribet as I had earlier and uh tell
him that uh we can always get another
Senator but they can't get another
father Joe Bo and Hunter were very close
Hunter calls the relationship between
the three of them the most profound love
I've ever
known both B and Hunter got married and
had kids Hunter got into corporate law
and Consulting Bo became Attorney
General of Delaware but then he died of
brain cancer Bose was the hand everyone
reached for in their time of
need Bose was the hand that was reaching
for yours before you even had to ask
Bose's death unored hunter
within months he was separated from his
wife abusing alcohol and crack cocaine
and had started a relationship with
Bose's Widow hiy he would disappear for
weeks at a time on drug fueled Benders
some of which produced strange voice
memos I am
damos you think that you know
me but you do
not you think that you see me but you
cannot he was living living in motel
rooms cooking his own crack and smoking
it every 15 to 20 minutes he was
partying with sex workers and basically
didn't sleep you
think that you love me but you do
not I am dous he wouldn't answer phone
calls even from his father dad I called
to tell you I love you love you more
than the whole world pal Joe left a
series of voicemails begging his son to
get help got to get some help I don't know
know
what to do I know you don't either
but I'm here no matter what you
need really what you need I love you
despite all this he was being paid
millions of dollars as a consultant for
companies in China and Ukraine he also
wasn't paying tax on that income he
insists that he was qualified for the
work he was doing for those companies
but he also admitted to ABC America that
his qualifications probably weren't the
reason he got the gig if your last name
wasn't Biden do you think you would have
been asked to be on the board of barisma
I don't know I don't know probably no 3
years after Bo's death hunter was asleep
in hi's house in Delaware Hunter had got
her into drugs as well but she had been
sober for a couple of months she decided
to search his truck to make sure that
there were no drugs in it but what she
found was a 38 caliber
revolver panicking she put the gun in a
bag and decided to get rid of it say
CCTV footage from a nearby supermarket
shows hi Biden arrive get the gun out of
her car and put it in a dumpster when
Hunter found out he was Furious hi went
back to retrieve the gun frantically
searching through the
dumpsters but the gun was gone someone
had found it and handed it in to the
police basically the only good decision
anyone in this entire story made now the
police had the gun and that was a
problem because when Hunter bought the
gun 11 days earlier he had signed a
legally binding form saying that he was
not a drug user or a drug addict but he
was he wrote about it in his Memoir
smoking crack cocaine every 3 days soon
became smoking every 2 days then every
other day then every hour of every day
in March 2019 his family tried to Stage
an intervention his father the former
vice president said I don't know what
else to do
please tell me what to do as he clutched
his only living son in the dark driveway
of his Delaware home anything please Joe
cried Hunter left promising to get help
but knowing that he wouldn't the next
month and a half is a drug befuddled
blur and then a couple of weeks later a
man smelling of alcohol who was almost
certainly Hunter Biden handed in three
laptops to repair shop owned by John
Paul Mac Isaac now if you found all this
stuff on a laptop belonging to the son
of a major Party candidate for president
of the United States what would you do I
mean it's weapons grade highly enriched
gossip for sure but is it anything other
than that John Paul ma ISAC was
convinced that it was it's a lot of the
sensationalized stuff a lot of the the
porn and the drugs and whatnot but I
also saw some financial documents and I
saw the name barisma come up a lot
related to a lot of money barisma is the
Ukrainian company which Hunter worked
for and which Ry Giuliani was convinced
was connected to Joe Biden in some
corrupt way you start seeing that Joe
did meet with the
foreign people from bisma and he was
lying about that you can see that they
set set up meetings with uh the
ukrainians with the Chinese the thing is
though you really have to make a few
logical leaps to get to evidence of Joe
Biden being corrupt you have to really
want to see it in between the lines of
what's actually on the laptop but Isaac
was exactly the kind of guy who would
see that stuff first he handed the
laptop to the FBI hoping that it would
be used to help Trump and prosecute the
bidens but then when the FBI seemingly
didn't do anything with the laptop at
all he became worried that he was at
risk of being killed if Joe Biden won
the election the FBI knew how long do
you think the FBI would have Tak taken
to brief in the incoming president hey
boss what do you want us to do with this
guy yeah yeah I would have been hit by a
car and nobody would and who knows what
they've done I mean it is it is a crime
family so he became determined to make
the information public which is why he
looked up how to send an email to Rudy
Giuliani by the time the story came out
just before the US election Hunter Biden
was sober he' met a woman in California
detoxed and married her all within a
week yes Hunter Biden seemingly got his
entire life back together in less than
the time it takes to play two Cricket
tests he made a fortune son and he
didn't have a job my son like a lot of
people like a lot of people we know at
home had a drug problem he's overtaken
it he's he's he's fixed it he's worked
on it and I'm proud of him unfortunately
for Hunter getting sober is great but
it's not enough to get you out of
trouble the US president Alex son Hunter
Biden has revealed his tax Affairs are
being investigated just after the 202
election news came out that the tax man
was interested in exactly what the deal
was with all that Ukrainian and Chinese
income it comes at an awkward time for
Joe Biden as he assembles his cabinet
including appointing an attorney general
who could oversee the investigation now
theoretically Joe Biden could have
pardoned his son on the first day of his
presidency in the car on the way home
from the inauguration ceremony but he
didn't and there's a good reason for
that Donald Trump had been the subject
of multiple investigations throughout
his presidency all of which he described
as politically motivated witch hunts
after he left office it was assume that
he would face further investigation and
potentially criminal prosecution by
allowing the parallel investigation and
potential prosecution of his son to
proceed Joe Biden was able to make the
case that the system was fair the
pursuit of trump was legitimate not a
Witch Hunt but this investigation was
hugely damaging for Joe Biden both personally
personally
and politically there is no evidence to
support the allegations that my father
was financially involved in my business
because it did not happen the contents
of Hunter Biden's laptop were used as
the basis for wild conspiracy theories
about the president cherry picking lines
from a bank statement manipulating texts
I sent editing the testimony of my
friends and former business
partners and misstating personal
information that was stolen from me
eventually these conspiracy theories led
to an impeachment inquiry alleging that
the president's Ukraine and China
policies were shaped by corruption no
matter how many times it is debunked
they continue to insist that my father's
support of Ukraine against Russia is the
result of a non-existent bribe after
years of Investigation by Congress and
the justice department the only person
prosecuted was Hunter for not paying
taxes during his yearslong bender and
lying about being sober while buying the
gun that hiy subsequently chucked in
that dumpster throughout the process Joe
Biden was asked repeatedly if he would
pardon his son he repeatedly ruled it
out and this is something that leftwing
commentators repeatedly praised him for
the justice system that convicted is
only surviving son is the same justice
system he's vowed to protect and if that
doesn't tell you who Joe Biden is I
don't really know what does but Donald
Trump told Fox News that he was
convinced that if push came to shove
Biden would cave and I'll bet you the
father probably pardons him let's see
what happens and he was right on the 1st
of December Joe Biden pardoned his son
and in doing so took a pot shot at the
justice system he had just spent years
trying to defend Joe Biden issuing a
statement saying he had signed a pardon
for his son alleging Hunter Biden was a
victim of political
persecution no reasonable person can
reach any other conclusion than Hunter
was singled out only because he is my
son maybe but hunter also made millions
of dollars from foreign companies
because he is your son he just doesn't
like reaping what he sowed Trump knew
this would happen we probably should
have to I don't know what to do I know
you don't either but I'm here no matter
what you
need no matter what you need I love you
look I've got to be honest I would
probably do the same thing thing for my
son but I thankfully don't have that
kind of power at the tip of my
pen maybe nobody
should this week Joe Biden issued
Pardons and commutations for around 1500
people and is considering preemptive
pardons for the people who were involved
in investigations into Donald Trump but
the hunter pardon is the one that
everyone's going to
remember Joe Biden knew this decision
would fuel
conspiracy theories he knew it would
give Donald Trump the political license
to Pardon whoever he likes and perhaps
most importantly he knew that it would
make people think the system was rigged
to benefit the
that so we're doing an online survey at
the moment basically to try and help us
to make the show even better in the new
year we've had had more than 3,000
responses which is amazing with some
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you fill out the survey if you haven't
already it's in the show notes below uh
one person has suggested that we could
improve the show by fixing quote Matt's
weird hair I don't know what to tell you
this is just how it comes out of my head
sorry there are also people suggesting
that I should do some close up magic and
I thought I would try that right now so
watch me magically swap the position of
that mug with the mug up there on the Shelf
ready
Tada Mari can you cut that together in
post just from the paper throwing to the
tar that would
be obviously super embarrassing if that
was left in the final edit okay thanks everybody
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