0:10 Charles Manson and his so-called family
0:12 would become the most infamous killers
0:16 of the 20th century the victims died in
0:17 the worst way
0:19 committing a series of brutal and
0:22 seemingly senseless crimes that would
0:25 spell the end of the 1960s hippie dream
0:28 they were vicious I mean just horrible
0:31 true killings I mean it's multiple
0:32 stabbing while people are begging for
0:36 their lives but what made mensen the man
0:38 he was he was a very powerful person
0:41 when he said jump they jumped counted so
0:44 many young people fall under his spell
0:47 Charlie would talk about how he was
0:51 Jesus and the devil all in one and were
0:54 Manson and his followers born to kill [Music]
1:30 August 8 1969 I was a Los Angeles police
1:31 officer worked in West Los Angeles
1:36 division and I received a radio call at
1:39 about nine o'clock in the morning a man
1:41 down at Cielo Drive
1:45 I wasn't expecting what I saw when I got
1:50 to that house in a theme described by
1:52 one investigator as reminiscent of a
1:54 weird religious right five persons
1:57 including actress Sharon Tate were found
1:58 dead at the home of Miss Tate and her
2:00 husband screen director Roman Polanski
2:03 mr. Tate was eight months pregnant I was
2:06 the first one in there what I entered
2:09 the house saw everybody was dead the
2:12 word Pig written on the front door and
2:17 somebody's blood it was very gruesome [Music]
2:20 [Music]
2:23 Detective Sergeant Mike McGann was
2:26 assigned the case when I arrived on the
2:28 scene there was some wires that were cut
2:32 over a large gate I entered the driveway
2:36 and found a car parked about set of
2:40 driveway which contained a Steven parent
2:43 18 year-old Steven parent had been
2:45 leaving after a visit to the properties
2:49 caretaker and I went inside and I
2:55 discovered Sharon Tate and Jay Sebring
2:58 26 year old Sharon Tate had been renting
3:01 the Bel Air home celebrity hairdresser
3:04 Jay Sebring had been visiting the eight
3:06 and a half month pregnant actress
3:09 Sharon was terribly stabbed and they
3:10 were tied together with a rope which was
3:14 tossed over a rafter in the house I
3:17 continued on through the back door and I
3:21 found abigail folger 25 year old coffee
3:24 heiress abigail folger was a houseguest
3:28 of the Polanski's Abigail even stabbed
3:29 numerous times
3:33 she was very bloodied and obviously dead
3:37 and I also found voytek frykowski
3:40 Folgers lover for Kowski was a friend of
3:44 Polanski from Poland Wojcik had also
3:47 been struck with a gun that they used it
3:50 was a it was a terrible scene I had been
3:52 working homicide for a long time so I
3:55 had seen a lot of scenes but I don't
3:59 think any quite as bad as this would
4:02 Polanski was in Europe at the time of
4:05 course he dashed back when he found out
4:07 that he's his young pregnant wife had
4:07 been murdered
4:10 and held probably one of the most moving
4:12 news conferences by the way that I've
4:21 the houses up and now you see lot of
4:26 blood all over the place
4:30 travels maybe close and that's all
4:33 of course the husband can be a suspect
4:35 and so we wanted to talk to Roman and
4:39 and he agreed to take a polygraph the
4:41 next morning at our crime lab and I was
4:45 there with a polygraph examiner he
4:47 passed with flying colors there was no
4:49 question he was not part of the homicide
4:52 nobody knew who did it nobody had a clue
5:02 and Hollywood just went nuts dogs
5:05 oh hell I panicked all these movie stars
5:07 they were hiring you know guards and
5:09 off-duty police anybody that could get
5:10 to the house I mean it was a complete
5:14 panic in the Hollywood area and the next
5:17 night the killing continued businessman
5:21 Leno LaBianca and his wife Rosemary was
5:23 stabbed to death in their home again
5:25 messages were written in blood
5:28 after the lobby office were murdered
5:30 that day it really started hot and heavy
5:34 there was a lot of fear in paranoia
5:36 here in LA particularly in the movie
5:39 colony why well not just because the
5:41 murders were incredibly gruesome total
5:44 169 stab wounds but they seemed to be
5:49 random despite a massive police
5:51 operation investigators were unable to
5:54 identify a perpetrator we did everything
5:56 we do I mean we we had everybody we
5:58 could possibly have think of working on
6:00 the case doing every possible thing
6:06 every lead we had we exhausted then
6:08 three months after the murders
6:10 detectives got word that a young
6:12 California girl had made an
6:15 extraordinary jailhouse confession a
6:18 story so strange it was almost
6:21 unbelievable was a crazy story out there
6:24 yeah it was very crazy susan was nice
6:26 especially every one of me talking to
6:29 her and in that period of time
6:31 you you would think it was impossible I
6:34 mean she was just a very nice young lady
6:38 21 year old Susan Atkins had claimed two
6:40 cellmates that she and a group of her
6:42 friends were responsible for the
6:44 terrible crimes
6:48 if these were typical murderer types or
6:50 robbers your rapists or burglars
6:52 it would have been quite as shocking but
6:54 they started looking at the backgrounds
6:56 of these people most of them came from
6:59 good middle-class families in December's
7:03 Leslie Van Houten was a homecoming queen
7:07 Tex Watson as a star athlete Patricia
7:10 KRENWINKEL sang in the church choir at
7:13 one time she want to become a nun these
7:15 seemingly all-american kids have become
7:18 unrecognizable to their families she was
7:26 controlled by an unlikely but powerful
7:29 puppet master this Charles Manson this
7:32 mephistophelian guru type who was very
7:36 charismatic very intelligent 35 year old
7:39 ex-convict Charles Manson commanded an
7:41 unerring devotion from his hippie
7:44 disciples they would kill seemingly at
7:47 his whim he did control a minute when he
7:50 said job they jumped the name Charles
7:52 Manson would become synonymous with evil
7:57 but who was this diminutive guru and how
7:58 was he able to convince his young
8:01 devotees to commit frenzied bloody murder
8:19 over two nights in August 1969 actress
8:22 Sharon Tate and six others had been
8:23 slain in one of the century's most
8:27 infamous crimes the killers were a group
8:29 of young seemingly middle-class flower
8:31 children acting on behalf of their
8:35 spiritual leader 35 year old ex-convict
8:37 Charles Manson [Music]
8:41 [Music]
8:44 but just who was this powerful guru
8:48 Manson was to have been born as an
8:53 unwanted illegitimate child of a young
8:58 prostitute disowned birth pretty much
9:03 raised by relatives he grew up it's a
9:07 very tight situation it's been claimed
9:09 that Manson's mother once tried to sell
9:12 her infant son to a childless waitress
9:16 in return for a pitcher of beer from an
9:20 early age he was left to his own devices
9:24 got involved in delinquent / criminal
9:26 activities when you grow up on the
9:28 street particularly if you're short and
9:31 slight like Manson is you have to be
9:33 able to learn how to read people very
9:35 very quickly and determine who you can
9:38 get over on and who you can't and Manson
9:43 was excellent at that from the mid 1940s
9:46 onwards a raft of thefts and armed
9:48 robberies would see the young Manson
9:49 passed through several institutions
9:52 where he was said to be sexually
9:55 brutalized what comes through certainly
9:58 looking at all the psychiatrist reports
10:01 and probation reports of Charles Manson
10:04 that was heaps of potential there but
10:05 something had happened early in life and
10:07 this this dogged him the whole time he
10:11 felt he'd been dealt a bad hand by the
10:14 1950s in his rare periods of freedom
10:16 Manson expanded his criminal repertoire
10:19 to include pimping young women from a
10:21 Hollywood apartment
10:25 the qualities that a pimp has to entrap
10:30 intimidate extort run the life of their
10:33 prostitutes rent them out sell them and
10:34 so forth
10:37 those are qualities that stood Manson
10:50 incarcerated again in 1960 and facing a
10:53 lengthy sentence Manson began to study
10:56 new ways of thinking when he was in
10:58 Terminal Island there was a
11:01 Scientologist Manson picked up on this
11:04 and he did 150 hours of auditing which
11:07 is the Scientology term for counseling
11:12 and Mansa started writing songs what he
11:13 was doing which is quite revolutionary
11:16 for the time he started imbuing these
11:18 songs with much of the philosophies that
11:20 he was picking up from Scientology and
11:23 also from his observations of human
11:25 nature so I think certainly Manson at
11:27 that point he's actually left the
11:29 persona of the petty criminal and he's
11:39 that fellow convict Phil Kaufman would
11:44 encounter Manson in early 1967 I was
11:46 arrested importing smuggling if you will
11:49 so a little bit of weed from Mexico it's
11:51 convicted in Arizona and sent to
11:53 Terminal Island California where my
11:55 first day of the yard I heard this guy
11:58 playing guitar and sing and he sounded a
12:09 look at your game girl
12:12 don't think I was pretty good the hack
12:15 the guard came up to a Charles and said
12:18 Manson you can't play your guitar here
12:21 you got a biscuit our place for playing
12:22 to get sorry says you know you ain't
12:24 never gonna get out of here Manson and
12:27 so they said I had a where man everybody
12:33 kept on goin playing this guitar part of
12:35 the mansion that the public came to know
12:39 was a very institutionalized person who
12:42 was used to being told what to do and
12:44 felt more comfortable in a confined or
12:47 isolated place when you have an
12:49 individual like Manson who doesn't fear
12:52 any type of punishment really he's a
12:56 very dangerous individual if someone
12:58 beats you with a whip and you love the
13:07 whip it's heaven right here Jack right here
13:08 here
13:10 Charles Manson had been imprisoned in
13:15 1960 when he was eventually released
13:18 seven years later the world was a very
13:20 different place we had just come out of
13:24 the fifties where teenagers were
13:27 basically kept on a very tight leash and
13:30 then all of a sudden this this wonderful
13:33 subculture erupted and we all became free
13:35 free [Music]
13:41 the 32 year old guitar-playing ex-con
13:44 headed to the eye of the storm [Music]
13:47 [Music]
13:50 there were thousands of young people all
13:52 up and down this street and this was all
13:57 the psychedelic scene dr. David Smith
13:59 founded the neighborhood's famous free
14:03 medical clinic 1967 was totally crazy
14:06 the streets would jam people were taking
14:11 LSD and dancing and music everywhere we
14:13 had the diggers giving up free food and
14:17 it was just a total insanity and we were
14:20 in the middle of it we did a survey of
14:24 the thousands of kids that came through
14:28 our clinic and 98% of them had used LSD
14:30 Charlie it saw a good thing when he
14:34 realized that if somebody ran around and
14:37 talked like a guru in that day and age
14:39 especially up in San Francisco you could
14:43 gather a group of followers in no time
14:46 you're taught but you can't they even
14:48 teach you the word they give you the
14:51 words take all the words away and don't
14:52 think it right wrong
14:55 just think in truth among those to fall
14:58 under Manson's spell were librarian Mary
15:02 Brunner disaffected teenager Lynette
15:05 Fromme and 19 year-old drifter Susan
15:11 Atkins she had a tough start in life on
15:13 top of a broken home on top of child
15:16 abuse Susan Atkins had to suffer the
15:19 death for mother from cancer and she was
15:23 compute e pretty wild so wild that her
15:25 family couldn't contain her and like
15:27 many others she headed off to San
15:30 Francisco where she worked variously as
15:33 a waitress and as a topless go-go dancer
15:37 she came across Manson quite early on in
15:38 the in the history of the Manson Family
15:43 and he was able to assume a fatherly
15:46 role with her which is a template for
15:48 what went on with the other girls also
15:51 joining the group in 1967 would be 20
15:53 year old Patricia KRENWINKEL later
15:59 renamed by Charlie as Katie she had a
16:01 troubled childhood as much she suffered
16:04 from overt problem with body hair which
16:06 as anyone knows has come through the
16:08 teenage thing that can really screw
16:11 someone up and her sister was a heavy
16:13 drug user she would dominate it the
16:15 family so Patricia really was a
16:17 forgotten charm
16:20 Tricia KRENWINKEL talked about meeting
16:23 Charlie and she met him down at the
16:25 beach and he took her to an apartment
16:28 and had her take off all her clothes and
16:31 look at herself in a full-length mirror
16:34 and say isn't that that the most
16:44 beautiful thing you've ever seen cease
16:55 to exist just come and say and that's it
17:00 he got her she was his after that come
17:03 on you can't be like many communal
17:06 groups of the 60s Manson and his girls
17:09 got an old school bus and began roaming
17:11 California on his release from prison
17:14 Phil Kaufman joined up with the group in
17:23 it was incredible you know it was sex
17:26 sex sex drugs and rock and roll real sex
17:28 drugs and rock and roll it was sex on
17:30 demand it was you know I mean if I get
17:32 just gotten out of prison you know any
17:34 pretty girls you just want to get laid
17:36 that's a good day at the office
17:40 the music was the seduction he did get
17:42 the new girl some new girl hood runaway
17:44 he was good and the girls would all sit
17:46 and you know and you know play their
17:49 little instruments and and that usually
17:52 worked you know that was that was the
17:53 hook it got a man
17:55 Phil Kaufman would introduce Manson to a
17:58 number of music producers including
18:01 Doris Day's son Terry Melcher Manson
18:03 hoped to get a major recording contract
18:06 and introduce his songs to the world
18:09 remember that a lot of people had not
18:11 heard this type of music before and
18:13 Manson was not that savvy to the
18:15 industry media industry music
18:17 interesting BS at the time if they said
18:18 to him Charlie it's brilliant
18:21 we loved it we'll be in touch he
18:23 believed they meant it
18:25 they may award bell-bottom power to
18:27 families that long hair but they were
18:29 businessmen and Charlie and the family
18:31 were hippies and they wanted to do
18:33 hippie music you know and it was just
18:35 this total chaos it was just the
18:37 recording shows were terrible but
18:39 Charlie always kept pursuing a
18:45 professional recording as a child Manson
18:47 had been rejected by his mother
18:51 now the LA music industry would do the
18:54 same it became evident to me that you
19:07 in 1967 after spending over half his
19:10 life in institutions thirty-two-year-old
19:12 petty criminal Charles Manson had been
19:15 released into a brave new world
19:18 gathering a small band of admiring
19:20 followers in San Francisco Manson and
19:22 the group began roaming the state
19:26 picking up new recruits along the way in
19:30 Los Angeles 16 year old Barbara Hoyt was
19:32 just one of many young people they
19:35 attracted he was definitely a father
19:39 figure to everybody I admired him it was
19:45 everybody gave me lots of attention
19:48 they're all very nice to me
19:51 I think the acceptance I felt was very
19:53 strong draw and I think that was
19:56 probably one of the main draws to to the
19:59 cult and probably anybody within a few weeks
20:00 weeks
20:02 Barbara would move with her new family
20:05 to a rundown film set in the hills
20:08 outside Los Angeles a location that will
20:18 it's a heavy feeling here it was just
20:21 such such evil that came out of here [Music]
20:29 and such a pretty
20:35 place my god [Music]
20:38 [Music]
20:43 I can smell the same smell over those
20:48 trees I can see where the ranch was down
20:51 in front of me over there was the Corral
20:53 and back here was the barn and in front
21:00 of the barn was the movie set this just
21:01 seems so surreal [Music]
21:04 [Music]
21:07 it's almost like it was long ago dream
21:24 instead of reality at the ranch
21:26 Barbara Hoyt would live among young men
21:28 and women that within months would
21:31 become murderers including 23 year-old
21:35 Charles Tex Watson and 20 year-old
21:42 Leslie Van Mountain Leslie Van Houten
21:45 was from Monrovia and by all accounts
21:49 just a really all-american type girl she
21:51 was a homecoming princess at my high
21:54 school and she come from a family which
21:58 was affluent that had broken down she
22:02 had sought solace in drugs she'd also
22:05 had an affair which end it resulted in
22:08 in the pregnancy on an abortion like
22:12 most of Manson's women she was in a
22:15 vortex in a void Tex was kind of happy
22:18 go lucky he didn't challenge Charlie for
22:20 leadership at all
22:22 he he don't he did what Charlie told him
22:26 to do he came from a solid family
22:28 background but something happened and
22:32 that I believe was drugs it just took
22:34 him from a path she was leading to a
22:36 successful professional life onto a
22:40 completely different way literally free
22:44 sex and freedom of sexual relationships
22:48 was quite attractive to him heterosexual
22:55 relationships to some group orgies
22:57 always a conspicuous presence would be
23:00 the young Susan Adkins by then
23:04 rechristened by Manson as Sadie
23:07 the first time I met Sadie she's sitting
23:09 on the floor kind of against the wall
23:10 and there are people around and she
23:14 sported right in front of me and cut one
23:19 whoa she would do stuff for shock well I
23:20 thought she was great at the time I
23:24 thought you know wow I have a free
23:27 person you know at the ranch this child
23:29 like free spirit was a state of mind the
23:32 group aspired to
23:35 the philosophy was that everything you
23:38 learned was wrong so we're gonna erase
23:41 your mind and make it childlike but in
23:44 retrospect you could see the by doing
23:47 that then you could implant your ideas
23:53 and philosophy any kind of belief system
23:56 you had that was considered trash so
23:59 people worked on disbelieving things
24:01 that they've been taught unlearning
24:04 everything you learned in school so that
24:06 you'd end up basically having no
24:10 opinions based on what you were brought
24:11 up with you wouldn't have any more
24:15 values any more it's that that were
24:17 given to us by our parents and peers but
24:20 everything we did was it was our choice
24:23 you know people gave up their egos
24:27 willingly whenever people convert to a
24:30 new political philosophy or a new
24:34 religion a new way of life it's not
24:38 because some spend Galli or some
24:42 powerful evangelists or some powerful
24:45 malevolent figures such as Manson was so
24:48 strong in the way they came on and so
24:51 articulate that they instantly converted
24:54 people it's always an interactive
24:57 process they needed him to be a
24:59 father-like figure a guru and they
25:01 created that for themselves
25:04 Manson needed followers Manson needed
25:06 people to listen to him and so they both
25:09 got what they each needed from each other
25:11 other
25:13 but not everyone would find Charles
25:18 Manson and his philosophies irresistible
25:21 Charles and I drove up to San Francisco
25:22 just the two of us it was at that time
25:25 when the philosophy of the hippies was
25:26 do your own thing man
25:28 you know let the man get you do your own
25:30 thing and I kept saying that Charlie
25:32 can't sit now and I'm doing your own
25:35 thing and I yeah man and you're like you
25:37 know it I was like if he did be at the
25:39 time you know we said then that he
25:41 realized that that I wasn't programming
25:43 and then was he after we got back for
25:46 awhile and I said Charlie you know I
25:48 gotta go he says yeah just still think
25:51 and hurt you and I said yeah I'm still
25:59 thinking Manson's feelings of power were
26:03 growing in 1968 dr. David Smith's
26:05 medical clinic studied the group at
26:10 spans ranch I really thought that he was
26:13 delusional and borderline psychotic he
26:17 did refer to himself as God he just hung
26:21 his arms out you know and and bow his
26:25 head and we know what he meant
26:28 Charlie would talk about how he was
26:31 Jesus and the devil all in one and all
26:33 men were but he was more of the epitome
26:36 of it he certainly said that he who
26:38 killed me like who and when yelling
26:40 across 2,000 years ago and didn't do it
26:42 I think bitter good in the summer of
26:47 1969 Manson would take playing God to
26:55 in the isolated ranch in the mountains
26:59 above Los Angeles surrounded by his band
27:02 of loyal disciples the man who'd spent
27:04 more than half his life in jail would
27:07 begin preaching an Armageddon gospel he
27:11 called helter skelter he explained to me
27:12 about helter skelter you know it's a
27:16 racist philosophy basically but he he
27:18 explained it to me like would God want
27:21 all the flowers to be the same color and
27:23 you know he made it seem like something
27:24 very pretty
27:27 helter skelter came out of one of the
27:30 Beatles songs the words but what it came
27:32 to mean to Manson and what he was
27:35 preaching so to speak to his followers
27:40 was a race war we had Watts Riots and so
27:43 you know I far as I was concerned he was
27:46 just saying the saying the obvious
27:49 anytime the word black who is mentioned
27:52 he he you know he hackles up because he
27:54 had been in prison and he saw that you
27:57 know you know how it was between whites
27:59 and blacks he said the black man was
28:01 gonna win this war but he said black
28:02 yelling those were Whitey's for him to
28:04 do and they're not gonna be able to
28:06 handle the reins of power so they're
28:07 gonna have to turn over the reins for
28:08 those white people who had survived
28:10 television I eat Charles Manson his
28:11 family they said we're gonna come on at
28:13 the bottom mr. Pitts and will take over
28:16 the leadership of the world Charlie
28:18 wanted to have his own twelve tribes of
28:20 Israel basically out there in the desert
28:23 and he he planned for a whole
28:27 civilization so it was quite quite a
28:31 grand design did Manson believe what he
28:32 was telling them about the apocalypse
28:34 coming no he didn't believe that at all
28:38 III I would be amazed if he actually
28:40 believed that this was a show this was
28:42 totally a performance that Manson put on
28:44 Manson is not mentally ill he's not
28:47 psychotic he's manipulative and
28:50 narcissistic and psychopathic but he's
28:52 not mentally ill and neither were the
28:55 followers mentally ill the end of the
28:58 world is a good draw you know a lot of
29:06 by the middle of the year the atmosphere
29:08 at the ranch began to change
29:11 significantly the intensity level was
29:13 noticeable like helter skelter is coming
29:17 down like now Manson's world was
29:20 beginning to unravel unknown to Barbara
29:23 Hoyt in May during a drug deal gone wrong
29:23 wrong
29:26 Charles Manson had shot a dealer he
29:27 believed to be a member of the militant
29:30 Black Panther girl we started having
29:33 guards at the ranch you know hiding in
29:36 the haystack in various places they had
29:38 field phones laid out between the front
29:39 of the ranch in the back of the ranch
29:41 then the Black Panthers were gonna come
29:42 for us
29:46 Charlie was getting pretty panicky and
29:50 intense and high-strung and and frightened
29:57 at the same time the LA County Sheriff's
29:59 Department were beginning to take notice
30:04 of the strange group we are attempted
30:07 to run some undercover officers in there
30:09 to try to buy narcotics because they
30:11 were dealing doing a lot of things never
30:13 had one
30:17 bit of success because they just would
30:21 not accept a stranger Charlie had family
30:23 members up here on the hill watching the
30:27 cops watch us yeah so we were all
30:31 watching each other it was all fun
30:34 considered it fun
30:38 we eventually arrested Charlie a couple
30:41 of his female friends
30:45 Malibu sheriff's station and book them
30:48 while we were interviewing Charlie we
30:50 were notified by des personnel that
30:52 somebody had come into the station to
30:54 try to bail him out and I asked who it
30:57 was and they even gave me a name a name
30:59 was Gary Hinman didn't mean anything to
31:02 us when I repeated that name to Charlie
31:08 [Music]
31:10 detective Salerno could never have known
31:13 that Gary Hinman would soon become the
31:16 first murder victim of the Manson family
31:20 in July 1969 Manson and his followers
31:23 attempted to extort money and property
31:25 from Hinman when he refused to cooperate
31:28 Manson family associate Bobby Beausoleil
31:33 took action when him and basically said
31:35 you're nuts I'm not giving anything to
31:39 you so they killed him they stabbed him
31:42 and and then they smothered him with a
31:46 pillow allegedly to play suspicion for
31:47 the murder on the Black Panther
31:50 political group slogans were dogged on
31:52 the wall in blood along with a panther
31:56 portrait the murder attracted little
31:59 attention but in less than a month's
32:01 time the family would commit a crime
32:04 that would make the world sit up and
32:04 take notice
32:07 my own personal feeling is the motive
32:09 for the killing was a series of events
32:11 which chipped away at Manson's Dominion
32:14 there was no record deal people were
32:15 leaving the family people were
32:19 questioning Manson's ability to be this
32:22 self-proclaimed Messiah there was chinks
32:25 appearing and the last weapon in his
32:33 on August the 8th 1969 Manson launched a
32:35 series of crimes he hoped would be
32:39 blamed on the black community I remember
32:44 the night that he had called Tex and I
32:45 remember looking at them as they were
32:47 talking it was almost like a black cloud
32:52 was around him it was dark and he told
32:55 me to take the other younger girls to a
32:58 place called the wickiup and he ordered
33:00 me to do it he didn't ask me he ordered me
33:00 me [Music]
33:01 [Music]
33:08 I was good half mile down the road there
33:12 was a back house way back there and
33:14 Sadie had called me on the field phone
33:16 and told me to bring three sets of dark
33:19 clothes up to the front of the ranch I
33:21 showed up with the clothes and Charlie
33:22 snapped at me
33:24 wanted to know what I was doing at the
33:26 front of the ranch when he told me to do
33:29 something else and I told him that Sadie
33:31 had asked me to bring the three sets of clothes
33:32 clothes
33:36 and he told me no they already left
33:40 Susan Atkins Patricia KRENWINKEL Tex
33:43 Watson and newcomer Linda Kasabian were
33:45 headed to the former home of record
33:48 producer Terry Melcher now being rented
33:50 by director Roman Polanski and his
33:52 actress wife Sharon Tate
33:56 they cut the telephone wires climbed
33:58 over the fence got in through an open
34:04 window and it was hell on entry to the
34:07 property former all-american high school
34:10 kid Tex Watson was reported to tell its
34:14 residents I am the devil and I've come
34:17 to do the devil's business these people
34:20 I knew and slept with and loved are now
34:24 heinous murderers they were vicious I
34:28 mean just horrible killings I mean some
34:29 multiple stabbing while people are
34:32 begging for their lives these people who
34:35 I've known you know made love to or now
34:37 now they're killing people that way I
34:41 mean point.but a flip complete flip for
34:45 Manson he had no empathy or emotional
34:50 attachment to any of these people the
34:53 victims died in the worst way for Kowski
34:56 was beaten over the head numerous times
35:00 on huge gashes ease and we believe this
35:03 is a weapon the techs used to kill him
35:06 Patricia KRENWINKEL chased abigail
35:09 folger across the lawn and poor abigail
35:11 was screaming and running for her life
35:15 this is not a nice way to die
35:17 Patricia KRENWINKEL her only complaint
35:19 is that the ninth went down to the bone
35:21 and started hurting her hand went so far
35:24 down Susan Atkins told me that Sharon
35:28 said please let me live so I can have my
35:32 baby and Susan told Sharon look [ __ ] I
35:34 don't have the immersion on you you're
35:37 gonna die so they got rid of all their
35:39 bloody clothing put on their regular
35:41 clothing and they threw the bloody
35:42 clothing over the side of a hill and
35:45 they went back to the ranch
35:48 Manson spoke to them she went the back [Music]
35:56 they slept in everybody slept in the
35:58 next morning but in the next evening
36:00 afternoon I went into Johnny swartzes
36:02 trailer and I was just sitting back and
36:04 watching the hobo Kelly in the afternoon
36:06 and Sadie came in and by that was about
36:08 five or six wanted me to turn the
36:11 channel to this to the news she told me
36:14 to call tax and I called tax he came to
36:16 the trailer and so did a couple other
36:20 people and and they all sat on Johnny
36:22 Swartz's couch there and watched the
36:24 news the first thing that came on was
36:27 the Sharon Tate murders so now I knew
36:30 that murders had occurred there I had no
36:32 idea no clue whatsoever that I was
36:36 sitting amongst the murderers someone
36:38 said picked a good one or something like
36:42 that because it made the first story and
36:45 then they laughed they thought that was funny
36:45 funny
36:48 and I remember when I watched the TV
36:50 when I was watching this it scared me
36:52 you know scared me and I was thinking
36:54 wow I'm not in that world that's good
36:58 well you know I had no idea how much in
37:01 it I was that night the people Barbara
37:04 Hoyt counted as her friends would go
37:07 hunting again there was no one safe in
37:22 on August the 9th 1969 the so-called
37:25 Manson family had slain actress Sharon
37:28 Tate and four others in a bloody terror
37:31 filled home invasion and the nightmare
37:36 was not yet over when they went down
37:38 looking for victims the second night
37:40 there was no one in LA there was no one
37:44 in this whole city that was safe they
37:45 were gonna break into a church and kill
37:48 the pastor and hang them from the cross
37:50 in there but the church was locked
37:57 because it was at night those eventually
38:00 chosen to die were 44 year-old
38:03 supermarket executive Leno LaBianca and
38:08 his 38 year old wife Rosemary Manson had
38:13 driven in the car with them finally
38:16 picked out this house he told them that
38:19 last night meaning at the Tate mansion
38:23 they had botched it by almost letting a
38:26 couple of them escape and not killing
38:29 them efficiently so he didn't want that
38:33 to happen again so he said you wait here
38:40 I'll go into the house he went in and
38:43 tied them both up then went back out
38:46 told him it's okay now you can go in and
38:49 kill them and then he he drove off the
38:52 lobby office were trussed up like
38:55 literally like a couple of hogs at
38:57 slaughter and then they were slaughtered
39:01 these were brutal violent terrible
39:05 murders Leslie Van Houten told Diane
39:09 Lake that stabbing rosemary LaBianca was
39:11 fun the more she did it the more she
39:16 enjoyed it this Fork was the fork that
39:19 Patricia KRENWINKEL used to carve wore
39:24 in the abdomen of Leno LaBianca after he
39:27 was killed and then stuck it into his
39:29 chest when the body was found it had the
39:32 this fork sticking out of it
39:36 I mean it's it's it's it's it's
39:41 nightmarish it's nightmarish among words
39:44 written in the victim's blood was the
39:48 phrase helter skelter hacks told me that
39:51 they'd gone to a love-in and for me not
39:54 to mention it and I was kind of jealous
39:56 because my dad would never let me go to
39:57 a love-in
40:00 I wasn't 11 they were killing the LA
40:06 bianca's yeah the whole thing just makes
40:15 me shake over the course of two bloody
40:18 nights Manson's followers had taken the
40:20 lives of seven unsuspecting victims
40:24 seemingly without conscience even
40:26 through their subsequent arrest and trial
40:26 trial
40:29 most of Manson's entourage would remain
40:32 unswervingly loyal to him everything
40:34 that Charlie did they did if Charlie
40:37 said something they would pear at him if
40:40 Charlie put an X on his forehead they'd
40:42 come to court the next morning with the
40:45 next exits on their foreheads if he put
40:47 his swastika on there by God the
40:50 swastika was there the next morning
40:54 only a few including Barbara Hoyt would
40:56 testify against the man they once
40:59 thought of as divine so what had driven
41:02 so many to willfully engage in such
41:05 brutal and bloody crimes was murder in
41:07 their nature were Manson and his young
41:11 followers born to kill
41:14 I couldn't say that that Manson was born
41:17 coming out of the womb to kill people
41:22 but I think that his upbringing and was
41:25 so bad that I I don't doubt for one
41:28 minute that it were not conducive to a
41:31 good life well-rounded life and I guess
41:32 he maybe he just want to make everybody
41:35 miserable that's that's the only theory
41:37 I could ever really come up with I don't
41:38 even think he was thinking of murder or
41:41 when he first formed this family but it
41:43 was a small evolutionary process and I
41:45 think at some point he saw that he could
41:47 get them to do anything he wanted them
41:49 to do and he had this enormous hostility
41:53 for society I know Charlie was treated
41:56 horribly as a child you know between the
41:58 neglect and abuse he suffered I don't
42:01 think that he attracted kids who were
42:04 predisposed to kill people I'd hate to
42:06 think that the whole group of them were
42:08 natural-born killers I just don't think
42:11 that's the case do I think these women
42:13 had they not met Manson would have gone
42:15 on to kill somebody no I don't believe
42:17 that there's no indication that that
42:20 would have happened Manson now is a
42:22 different story whether he killed
42:24 somebody in his past or didn't it's
42:26 really unclear in dispute but he
42:28 certainly has the capability of doing
42:30 that but from manses perspective he if
42:33 he could get you to kill the person for
42:35 him he much preferred to have you do it
42:37 because in his mind it's absolving him
42:39 then of direct criminal responsibility
42:42 he's always working the system and
42:45 working other people Manson nothing is
42:48 by chance it's all planned and he is a
42:51 highly controlled controlling individual
42:54 I know when I interviewed Suzan Adkins
42:56 she said she was in death row for five
42:58 years before Charlie left a brain and
43:02 that he had absolute control of her
43:03 thoughts and they believed he could read
43:07 their minds I think what you had was
43:09 delusional leader coupled with
43:11 psychedelic drugs and alienated
43:14 population of young people and an
43:17 environment that reinforced it
43:21 I describe it as a gradual
43:24 desensitization and conditioning process
43:27 and he throughout his life and stolen
43:30 cars committed robberies and many other
43:33 state and federal crimes and he had
43:36 these people had them do do these same
43:39 kinds of things we all can have the
43:47 capacity to say no just say no charlie I
43:52 think he was made into a monster by his
43:56 upbringing but he still had a choice so
43:58 I don't think it's just nature versus
44:01 nurture I think we all have a choice and
44:04 responsibility to determine our own
44:07 fates the only thing I can think of this
44:08 difference between me and those I have
44:11 some empathy for the victims they didn't
44:13 seem to care they don't care they need
44:16 they I've had a real hard time oh here I go
44:26 getting I had never gotten past with [Music]
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