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This content is a transcript of a New York City mayoral debate featuring candidates Andrew Cuomo, Curtis Sliwa, and Zohni Mandani. The debate covers a wide range of critical issues facing the city, including public safety, affordability, housing, transportation, education, and the candidates' leadership styles and past experiences.

two-hour debate live on all NBC New York

and Telmundo47 streaming and digital

platforms, politico.com, texatos, and

YouTube. The first hour is also live on

channel 4 and Telundo 47. We do have a

few rules for the candidates. For

traditional question and answer, you'll

have one minute to respond and we'll

offer 30 secondond rebuttals at the

moderator's discretion. We'll also be

asking questions where we will be

looking for shorter answers. We also

reserve the right to cut off your

microphone if you ignore the rules. But

candidates, you know, we don't want to

do that. The goal is for you to hear

each other and for New Yorkers to hear

everything you have to say. Good luck.

We'll begin with Melissa Russo.

>> Thank you, David, and good evening,

gentlemen. Thank you for being here. We

begin tonight by asking you to do what

every mayor dreams of, and that is to

write your own headlines. Imagine it's

January 2027, and you have been in

office for exactly one year. We would

like you to quickly give us one headline

about what you think your biggest

accomplishment will have been in year

number one. We'll begin with you, Mr. Cuomo.

Cuomo.

>> Uh first, thank you very much for

sponsoring the debate and having all of

us. Uh the one headline, how how many

characters in the headline?

>> No, you're familiar with headline

length. Rent down, comma, crime down,

comma, education scores up, uh, comma,

more jobs in New York City.

>> We're getting maybe a little over the

average headline, but

>> optimism high.

>> Thank you, Mr. SWAT. Uh Curtis Fua is

without his iconic red beret because I'm

talking to the people of New York City

about the really serious issues of

affordability, the cost of living and

obviously what I spent most of my life

doing, which is public safety in the

streets and the subways.

>> We would love a headline from you. What

will your headline be? Your big headline

and your number one as mayor. Curtis Lee

exceeds all expectations

and looks very mayoral tonight.

>> Mr. Mandani, you've had some time to

think about it. Now, what's your headline?

headline?

>> It's a pleasure to be here, first of

all, and I really want to thank the

moderators and the opportunity to speak

directly to New Yorkers about this

moment in time and our opportunity to

transform the most expensive city in the

United States of America. The headline

would read, "In about a year, Mandani

continues to take on Trump delivers on

affordability agenda for New Yorkers."

>> Thank you, Mr. Mandani. Sally,

>> thank you, Melissa. We're going to talk

about leadership. Voters have

reservations about all three of you as

chief executive of New York City, a city

with roughly 300,000 employees and a

budget bigger than many countries. We

have questions for each of you, and Mr.

Cuomo, we will begin with you. As a

former governor of New York, you

obviously have the management

experience, but you resigned from office

amid sexual harassment and COVID related

scandals. Why should voters now trust

that you have the character to be mayor?

You have one minute.

>> Good. Well, thank you very much and

thank you for the question. Uh first, uh

you are right. I left office. There was

a report that was done that had

allegations of harassment. I said at the

time it was a political report and uh

that there was no basis to it. Um it was

then sent to five district attorneys.

They all reviewed it. They found

nothing. It was then litigated for 5

years. I was dropped from the cases. So,

none of that came to anything. When it

comes to executive experience, I've run

the Department of Housing and Urban

Development, built housing all across

the nation. I was governor for 11 years.

The budget is double what it is in New

York City, and I got government to work.

I passed groundbreaking laws, minimum

wage, paid family leave, built projects

that had never been built before. This

is no job for on the job training. And

if you look at the failed mayors,

they're ones that have no management

experience. Don't do it again.

>> Thank you, Rena.

>> Thank you, Sally. In the theme of

leadership, Mr. Mandani, you work as a

foreclosure prevention counselor for

winning seat in the state assembly. You

have no substantial management

experience. How are you ready to lead

the nation's largest and greatest city

in the world in one day? You have a minute.

minute.

>> You know, I have the experience of

having served in the New York State

Assembly for 5 years and watching a

broken political system, the experience

of seeing a governor in Andrew Cuomo who

would rather have served his billionaire

donors and the working-class New Yorkers

who voted for him. and the experience

amidst all of that, of fighting and

winning for working-class taxi drivers

to free them from predatory debt and

delivering the first free bus lines in

New York City history and in working

with unions and workingclass New Yorkers

to finally raise taxes just that little

bit on Mr. Cuomo's donors to start to

fully fund our public school. And more

than that, I have the experience of

being a New Yorker, someone who has

actually paid rent in the city before I

ran for mayor. Someone who has had to

wait for a bus that never came. someone

who actually buys his groceries in this

same city. And what all of that

experience has shown me, which Mr. Cuomo

can't seem to understand, is that it is

far too expensive and far too hard for

New Yorkers to afford to live in this

city. And the definition of experience

is not doing the same thing again and

again and hoping for a different result.

That's actually the definition of

insanity. Thank you, Mr.

>> If I can, I think I was invoked. Yes.

>> Uh, in other words, uh, what the

assemblyman said is he has no

experience. And this is not a job for

someone who has no management experience

to run 300,000 people, no financial

experience to run $115 billion budget.

He literally has never had a job. On his

resume, it says he interned for his

mother. Uh, this is not a job for a

first timer. Any day you could have a

hurricane, you, god forbid, a 9/11, a

health pandemic. If you don't know what

you're doing, people have to summar

and and if we have a health pandemic,

then why would New Yorkers turn back to

the governor who sent seniors to their

death in nursing homes? That's the kind

of experience that's on offer here

today. What I don't have in experience,

I make up for in integrity. And what you

don't have in integrity, you could never

make up for in experience.

>> Yes. May I?

>> Uh first, what you said was totally

false. As you know, uh which part was

false? during COVID, everyone did

whatever they could in this state and

there have been numerous investigations

uh where they've gone through it and

they said we followed federal guidance

but yes people died during CO and my

heart breaks for everyone that broke in

uh that died in this state and across

this nation.

>> But just to be clear, Mr. Just to fact

check that, there is a criminal

investigation reportedly underway at the

DOJ about your testimony to Congress

about your nursing home record.

>> Yeah, but that was that is a political

issue with the Congress. They made a

referral uh which has gone absolutely

nowhere. But there have been multiple

investigations where the DOJ found that

the nursing home investigation was

politically motivated.

>> Okay, we're going to move on. We we

might have time to come back to it. I do

need to move on to

>> May I just finish my uh rebuttal, but

the assemblyman still says he has no

experience to do the job.

>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Cuomo. Mr. Sua, as

founder of the Guardian Angels and as a

radio host, you've been a well-known

figure in New York City for decades, but

you also lack substantial management

experience. So, how are you prepared to

be the chief executive officer of New

York City? You have one minute, Mr.

Siwa. First of all, I created the

Guardian Angels to provide public safety

in the subways and streets when

government was incapable of doing so. I

didn't do it to get a title or a

paycheck. Secondarily, I don't declare

myself to be all knowing. I will hire

the very brightest and best in their

fields who have dedicated their lives to

trying to improve the city of New York

or the state or the federal government

or the private sector. But what I will

say is, thank God I'm not a professional

politician. We have the architect and we

have the apprentice of no cash bail,

which has been a disaster. We have the

architect and the apprentice here of

Raise the Age. My own son was almost

killed because of that in a gang attack.

We have the architect and we have the

apprentice of closed Riker's Island,

which would just release criminals in

the street. Thank God I'm not a

professional politician because they

have helped create this crime crisis in

this city that we face and I will

>> Thank you, Mr. SWA.

>> Thank you, Mr. SWA. Candidates,

President Trump has expressed intense

interest in this election and in all of

you personally. Mr. Mumdani, the

president called you quote my little

communist. Mr. Sivbo, he said you're

quote not exactly prime time. And Mr.

Mr. Cuomo, he has been critical of you,

but said you have always gotten along.

The president has threatened to cut

federal funds to the city, and just

yesterday, he killed the Gateway

project, the tunnel connecting New York

to New Jersey. You've all promised to

resist him in some way. What would you

say in your first official call with the

president to set the tone for your

relationship moving forward? We'll give

you a minute for this. We'll start with

you, Mr. Mandali.

I would make it clear to the president

that I am willing to not only speak to

him to but to work with him if it means

delivering on lowering the cost of

living for New Yorkers. That's something

that he ran his presidential campaign

on. And yet all he's been able to

deliver thus far has been prosecuting

his political enemies and trying to

enact the largest deportation program in

American history. And what distinguishes

me from Andrew Cuomo is the fact that he

has gotten on the phone with that same

president. Not asking him how to work

together to help New Yorkers are not

telling him that he would refuse to back

down to protect those New Yorkers, but

instead asking him how to win this race.

That's something I can do myself, I

don't need the president's assistance

for. And what I'd tell the president is

if he ever wants to come for New Yorkers

in the way that he has been, he's going

to have to get through me as the next

mayor of this city.

>> All right, Mr. Cromwell, we we'll give

you a little extra time, but I'd like

you to answer this question as well.

what your first conversation with the

president would be like.

>> Okay. Uh first I never had a

conversation with the president that the

assembly was talking about. Um the but

he's he's has a distant relationship

with the truth. Uh I would say to the

president in the first conversation look

we have had many many battles. I fought

with we fought together every day during

co and the battles were bloody uh and

I'd like to avoid them. uh you know if

you come after New York, you know what

I'm going to do. You know it's going to

be ugly. Uh and you know my chances are

almost 5050 even though you're the

president. I'd like to work with you. I

think we can do good things together,

but number one, I will fight you every

step of the way if you try to hurt New York.

York.

>> Unless he weaponizes the justice system

to go after the attorney general of this

state, in which case you'll issue a

statement that doesn't even name the

president. And no matter what you think

about Donald Trump, you know that not

even being able to name him is an act of

cowardice. And that's what we would see

from Donald Trump's puppet on the right.

>> I I do want to get mislead, but Mr.

Cuomo, I'll give you a few seconds

respond to that.

>> Yeah. Uh I did me I said political

weaponization of the justice system is

wrong. Both sides do it. It's wrong when

Donald Trump does it. It's wrong when

they did it to Comey. It's wrong when

Comey did it to Hillary. It was wrong

when it happened James.

>> Thank you, Mr. Cro. I want to give Mr.

Slee a chance to answer this. Mr. Le

your first official conversation with

the president. What would you say to set

the tone?

>> Well, first of all, there's high levels

of testosterone in this room. I've had a

lovehate relationship with Donald Trump

that goes back over 30 years. But I know

one thing. Uh we have Andrew Cuomo. We

have Zan Mandami. They want to take on

Donald Trump. Look, you can be tough,

but you can't be tough if it's going to

cost people desperately needed federal

funds. Zoran Mandami, the president has

already said it's going to take7 billion

dollars out of the budget right from the

start if you're elected mayor. People

are going to suffer in this city. People

who need those federal funds. What I

would do is sit and negotiate. I would

say, "Look, Mr. President, we need that

gateway tunnel. It moves millions of

people from Washington DC to Boston, but

take away the Q train project. We don't

need those three stations going from

96th Street to 125th. It's not a

necessity. Sit with the president and

whoever he delegates and try to

negotiate. But if you try to get tough

with Trump, the only people who going to

suffer from that are the people of New York.

York.

>> Okay, Mr. Slewood, thank you. Brief

response, Mr. Mumani.

>> You know, Mr. Trump is already

suspending infrastructure grants to this

city and he's doing it in a blatant act

of political retribution and what it

requires is leadership that will stand

up to him and I disagree with Mr. Slew.

We do need to extend the Second Avenue

subway to 125th Street. It was a promise

made to Harlemmites decades ago. It's

time to actually fulfill it.

>> Thank you, Mr.

>> Quick question for Quick. Quick question

for each of you. Um, Mr. Cuomo, you've

been asked

>> He mentioned my name. Don't I get a

chance to respond?

>> Well, we got a lot of ground to cover. Obviously,

Obviously,

I was the last time you spoke with

President Trump. Mr. Cuomo, you've been

asked this before. And the last time you

said you couldn't remember?

>> Uh, I believe it was during his

assassination attempt. So last year in

2024, Mr. Slewell, when was the last

time you spoke with President Trump?

>> Oh, many years ago, we were receiving

awards. I was praising him for saving uh

the annual Veterans Day parade. Uh those

were the conversations that I had with

him. Can I please respond? I was asked

about the Q train.

>> Okay, real quick.

>> I am the mayor of Mass Transit. We do

not need a Q train. I'm in the subways

every day. We have more than a capable

system of transporting people. The

infrastructure needs to be fixed in the

system that we have.

>> Mr. Mani, have you ever spoken with with

President Trump? >> No.

>> No.

>> Okay, there you go, Sally. Thank you,

Mr. Cuomo. A followup to that. President

Trump has spoken positively about you

and your candidacy, even as his justice

department, as we've noted, is

reportedly investigating you for

allegations you lied to Congress over

your COVID record. Given that dynamic,

how would you be able to stand up to

this White House? How are you not

compromised? And just take into account

that New Yorkers are troubled by what

they view as a compromised relationship

the current outgoing mayor has with the president.

president.

>> Yeah. First, you're wrong when you say

there's any investigation uh of me. Uh

that's not true.

>> Congress there is no investigation.

Heard absolutely nothing. Congress did a

press release. They said they sent a

letter to Department of Justice uh which

they do routinely to generate press. Uh,

and that's what that is. Um, I have been

I fought Donald Trump. He investigated

me repeatedly with the Department of

Justice. The the Department of Justice

in Inspector General said that it was

actually politically motivated. That

does not back me up. When I'm fighting

for New York, I am not going to stop.

And I'll tell you something else. If the

assemblyman is elected mayor, Donald

Trump will take over New York City and

it will be Mayor Trump who runs New York City.

City.

>> We have to move on. Just a very quick

followup. Yes or no? You You're saying

unequivocally the Justice Department is

not investigating you. Correct.

>> I have one. I've heard absolutely nothing.

nothing.

>> They could be and you might not have

heard it, but okay, we'll move on. David.

David.

>> Okay. Thank you, Sally.

>> That is virtually impossible, by the way.

way. >> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> So, Mr. You did put out an ad the day

after the news first broke in the New

York Times that you were under

investigation, calling it a political

investigation, saying they were coming

after you as they had to, you know,

after other Democratic politicians. You

haven't denied this previous

>> the Republican Congress was.

>> Yes. I believe they play politics with

the justice system.

>> I believe the Republican Congress does

it. I believe Donald Trump does it. I

believe the Democrats do it. And that's

why I think people are sick and tired of

the justice system and the politics. If

you think that there's no difference

between the Democratic party and the

Republican party, then that's the

candidate for you. If you think it's

time to have a Democratic party that

actually stands up to Donald Trump and

his billionaire back working

not a Democrat, you're not a Democrat.

You're a Democratic socialist. You

didn't vote for Kla Harris, right? We

have grounded cover. No, no, we have to

cover. That's an incendiary charge. I

want to be very

>> You may have a chance to address it, but

we do have a lot of issues to get to

with the Yorkers.

>> I'll be very quick. You didn't say leave

it blank in the Kamela.

>> I'll be very quick. I said leave it

blank in the presidential primary

because primaries are place to air

disscent. And like many Americans, I was

horrified of Israeli genocide of

Palestinians. And if you want to look

for me on the ballot, you'll find me as

the Democrat.

>> Mr. Matti, thank you. General, we have

to move on. This week, the world is

reacting to President Trump's Israel

Hamas peace deal and the release of the

hostages. and many are cautiously

optimistic about a lasting peace. Of

course, the mayor has no direct role in

foreign affairs and we certainly have a

lot of questions for you about city

matters, but this war has been a major

topic in the campaign and there are

criticisms about your positions in the

past and how you envision leading on

these issues as mayor. So, we have

questions for all of you, but first for

Mr. Mdani because of something you said

uh that's been generating headlines in

the news today as we come into the

debate yesterday on Fox News. You were

asked if Hamas should lay down its

weapons key to the peace plan and ceasefire.

ceasefire.

And some say they found your answer

confusing. You said quote, "I don't

really have opinions about the future of

Hamas and Israel beyond the question of

justice and safety and the fact that

anything has to abide by international

law." And that applies to Hamas and that

applies to the Israeli military. So for

the voters tuning in tonight, Mr. Mdani,

what do you believe about Hamas and how

lasting peace will be achieved?

We know it's a complicated matter, but

we'd like you to keep your answer to a

minute if you could.

>> Of course, I believe that they should

lay down their arms. I'm proud to be one

of the first elected officials in the

state who called for a ceasefire. And

calling for a ceasefire means seizing

fire. That means all parties have to

cease fire and put down their weapons.

And the reason that we call for that is

not only for the end of the genocide,

but also an unimpeded access of

humanitarian aid. I, like many New

Yorkers, am hopeful that this ceasefire

will hold. I'm hopeful that it is

durable. I'm hopeful that it is just.

And for it to be just, we also have to

ensure that it addresses the conditions

that preceded this conditions like

occupation, like the siege and

apartheid. And that is what I'm hopeful for.

for.

>> Yeah. If I may,

>> that means from the river to the sea.

I'm being marginalized out of this. I'm

sorry. We need a debate of three. Excuse

excuse me. It's a debate of three. Do we

acknowledge that three people?

>> Mr. SL, go ahead and we'll give you a

sec. Go ahead. Mr. SL,

>> the president of the United States

should have been applauded by you, Zoran

Mandami, and you, Andrew Cuomo, on the

day that he brought together that

international coalition that met in

Egypt that came from the Middle East and

the Persian Gulf. I certainly applauded

him for bringing peace to Gaza and

trying to end the hostilities in the war

between the Israelis and Hamas so there

can be peace between the Israelis and

peace between the Palestinians. But you

seem Zoran to be incapable of praising

our president and answer you were

incapable of praising

give credit where credit is due. He's

brought peace to God.

>> Gentlemen, we want to hear everything

you have to say. We have other questions

on the matter. Mr. Cuomo, please brief

response because we do have other

questions on this issue that you may be

able to address. Go ahead.

>> I did applaud President Trump and his

administration. I think it was a great

accomplishment. I hope the peace holds.

>> The assemblyman will not denounce Hamas.

The assemblyman will not denounce Hassan

who said America deserved 9/11.

The assemblyman just said in his

response, well, it depends on uh

occupation. That is code meaning that

the Israel does not have a right to

exist as a Jewish state which he has

never acknowledged. That is from the

river to the sea. That's why he won't

denounce globalize the inif which means

kill all Jews.

>> Let's give Mr. Mani a chance to respond

to that.

>> I want to be very clear. The occupation

is a reference to international law and

the violation of it which Mr. Cuomo has

no regard for since he signed up to be

Benjamin Netanyahu's legal defense team

during the course of this genocide. And

I find the comments that Hassan made on

9/11 to be objectionable and

reprehensible. And I also think that

part of the reason why Democrats are in

the situation that we are in of being a

permanent minority in this country is we

are looking only to speak to journalists

and streamers and Americans with whom we

agree of every single thing that they

say. We need to take the case to every

person and I'm happy to do that. Which

is why I was on Fox News yesterday

talking about I wish it was more like

NASCAR so we could see all the

billionaires who are sponsoring you

right on your suit jacket.

>> Melissa has another

>> we're going to turn it to Sally actually.

actually.

>> Yeah, actually this kind of flows and

then we'll go back to Melissa. Mr.

Mdani, you told NBC's Meet the Press

that you don't believe it's the role of

the mayor to police speech. Your words

about this war have comforted many New

Yorkers, but they've troubled others.

And I want to ask about some of this.

There is your recent refusal, as we just

discussed, to condemn the slogan,

globalize the antifat, which many view

as a call to arms. In 2017, you wrapped

lyrics praising the Holy Land five.

These are men who were convicted of

supporting terrorism.

How would you assure New Yorkers,

especially Jewish residents who might be

concerned about this, that you would be

a mayor for all? You have one minute to

answer this.

>> Thank you for this opportunity.

When I

am speaking about the responsibility of

leading this city, I mean leading not

just those who voted for me, leading

leading not just those who vote, but

leading every single person who calls

the city home. And that includes Jewish

New Yorkers. And I have been so thankful

for the opportunity I've had to sit with

so many Jewish New Yorkers over the

course of the primary and through the

general. And it's in those conversations

that I learned that this phrase evokes

many painful memories. memories of bus

attacks in Hifa, of restaurant attacks

in Jerusalem, and I heard from a rabbi

about their roommate who was killed on

one of those buses. And in hearing that

and the distance between that impact and

the rationale that some use of saying

it, of speaking about the Israeli

occupation of Palestinian land is why I

said that I would discourage this

language, language that I do not use.

And what I'm looking to do as the first

Muslim mayor of this city is to ensure

that we bring every New Yorker together,

Jewish New Yorkers, Muslim New Yorkers,

every single person that calls this city

home, that they understand they won't

just be protected, but they will belong.

>> Mr. Well, we will get to you first. I'm

going to ask a question of Mr. Cuomo.

While you are a strong supporter of

Israel, you have also been slow to

develop a relationship with the city's

Muslim community. You have called Mr.

Mandani a terrorist sympathizer. How do

you assure those New Yorkers, especially

Muslims and Arabic New Yorkers, that you

will be a mayor for all? You'll have one minute.

minute.

>> Yeah. Well, first, I think the

assemblyman uh created the perception

himself. Why wouldn't he condemn Hamas?

Why wouldn't he condemn Hassan

Why did it take us here tonight for the

first time for him to say it? He still

won't denounce globalized inif, which

means kill all Jews. Just say, "I

denounce it." he won't do it. That's the

issue and his divisiveness.

>> Can you address the question that we're

to you? I think you've made the point,

but can can you please answer about your

own relationship with the Muslim

community? You did not visit mosques for

many years. More recently, you have been.

been.

>> Yeah. I don't think I'm I don't I don't

think in any way the assemblyman is

representative of the Muslim community,

which is a vital community in New York

City. Uh and uh I am very fond of and

I've been working with. Uh I think he's

playing his own politics. Uh many of his

positions don't even follow uh the

Muslim faith. So I see them as two

totally separate things.

>> Mr. Mumani, want to respond?

>> You know, it took Andrew Cuomo being

beaten by a Muslim candidate in the

Democratic primary for him to set foot

in a mosque. He had more than 10 years

and he couldn't name a single mosque at

the last debate we had that he visited.

And what Muslims want in this city is

what every community wants and deserves.

They want equality and they want

respect. And it took me to get you to

even see those Muslims as part of this

city. And that frankly is something that

is shameful and is why so many New

Yorkers have lost faith in this politics.

politics. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

I've worked with the Muslim community

for many many years.

>> Name a single mosque you went to when

you were the governor.

>> Before Can you name a single mosque you

went to in 10 years?

>> You were ever here. They were

>> before I was here. Before you were even

in state government, I worked with the

Muslim community.

Presided over state of the states, uh we

worked in religious working groups,

town, anti-semitic groups, etc.

>> All right, gentlemen. Uh Mr. Rosar has a

specific question for you, but I'll give you

you

this is what disturbs me about you. Uh

you will be celebrating your birthday

this weekend in 1991.

And I was in the streets of Crown

Heights with the Guardian Angels for 30

days and 30 nights when the first

Democratic Socialist mayor of New York

City, that's right, David Dinkens was a

proud member of the Democratic

Socialists of America, abandoned the

Jews for three days. They were left to

their own means and we protected them

for 30 days and 30 nights. Then your

favorite mayor, Bill Delasio, in 2019

abandoned the Jews again when they were

being attacked in Williamsburg in Bur

Park and Crown Heights. And I had to

bring the guardian angels in for 30

days. Jews don't trust that you are

going to be there for them when they are

victims of anti-semitic attacks.

>> Okay, brief response, Mr. Mani. We have

a specific question for you from

Rosarina, but Mr. Mdani, please.

>> I agree. By the way,

>> one of the most meaningful experiences

I've had over the course of this

campaign has been the conversations I've

had with Jewish New Yorkers. Jewish New

Yorkers who've told me about the door

that they've had to lock that they had

kept open for 40 years. Jewish New

Yorkers who've told me on the M57 about

an apartment the speech therapist was

trying to sell when a realtor told her,

"Put the Jewish books off the table."

Jewish New Yorkers who've told me about

their fear in living in this city. And I

will be a mayor who finally addresses

that not through the theatrics of the

politics on this stage, but through

action. I'll do that by ensuring that we

have police officers outside of San.

Gentlemen, we have a lot to get to and

we do have a specific question for Mr.

Sio Rosino.

>> Thank you, David. Um, Mr. S, why you've

called for tougher policing of pro

Palestinian protest and you've suggested

that Mr. Mandani uses languages that is

anti-semitic. How do you assure New

Yorkers that you'll be the mayor for all?

all?

>> Well, I've been there for all people in

all times for 46 years as leader of the

Guardian Angels here and around the

world. Whether it is a religious uh

violation of people's rights to worship

as they choose in a mosque, in a church,

in a synagogue, or a shul, whether it's

because of racial identity. Remember in

the summer of 2020, Asians were under

constant attack because of the lockdown

and pandemic. I don't remember Governor

Cuomo coming to their aid. You were the

governor then. I was out there going

into all the neighborhoods, Flushing,

Bayside. We were in uh uh down in

Bensonhurst. We were in uh Chinatown

itself where Asians were being attacked

indiscriminately because they were

thought to be carrying CO. We protected

them then. Governor, you were not there

for them. Delasio was not there for

them. We understand hate. And in order

to counteract hate, you have to get the

community involved along with the police

to protect people when they're under

siege. Jews are under attack now more

than ever before.

>> And I don't believe either of you have

the capability of protecting them with

increased anti-semitism.

>> That is pure fiction. I passed the no

hate in our state, the strongest hate

crime law in the United States of

America. We tolerate no hatred, no

discrimination. We are from every place

on this globe and proud, excuse me, and

we're tolerant and we accept. Uh if you

notice, the assemblyman still won't say

he believes that Israel has a right to

exist as a Jewish state. He is a

divisive personality all across the

board. NYPD are racist. Barack Obama is

evil liar and he gave the finger to the

Christopher Columbus stat. By the way,

your laws with no cash bail turn the

haters right back in the street to

violate and attack again and again and

again. You're the reason for that. No

cash bail.

>> Thank you.

>> There there have been a number of

absolutely unfounded lies that have been

said by Andrew. I would just like a

moment to address them directly. I've

said time and again that I recognize

Israel's right to exist. I've said that

I will not recognize any state. I said

that I will not

>> as a Jewish state

>> if I would be allowed to finish that I

would not recognize any state's right to

exist with a system of hierarchy on the

basis of race of religion. I have made

that very clear and part of that is

because I'm an American who believes in

the importance of equal rights being

enshrined in every single country

whether we're speaking about Israel or

whether we're speaking about Saudi

Arabia. You can stand here and you can

lie all you want, but New Yorkers, we

may have the question to address some

issues here.

>> All right. And we have another

polarizing issue that we would love to

discuss with you candidates and let's

talk about the National Guard here in

the city of New York. Now, let's go back

to Mr. President Donald Trump. One

threat hanging over the city is the

deployment of the National Guard troops

like he has done as you all know in

other cities. The NYPD commissioner has

rejected the idea as unnecessary, but

the president ordered troops to hit the

streets of New York. Now, how would you

respond? Uh, Mr. Siwa, you have a minute.

minute.

>> There's no need for the National Guard

in New York. Kathy Hokll, the governor,

when we had a crime crisis in the

subways that I'm well familiar with

being down there all the time, unlike my

two adversaries, uh she sent 750

National Guardsmen down into the subways

in 2024. Remember the horrible case of

Deina Kow? Does anybody even say her

name anymore? That woman who was set on

fire by that migrant as a result of that

the worst crime I've ever seen committed

in the subway system. The governor did

the right thing. She sent an additional

250 National Guardsmen, giving us a

total of a thousand National Guardsmen

in the subway system. While our mayor,

Eric Adams, was telling us it was all a

perception. So, Governor Hokll has

responded. I would tell the president of

the United States, since I'm familiar

with cities all across America having

guardian angels there, if you were going

to send the National Guard, you don't

need to send them to New York City.

There are other cities that could

desperately use their help in dealing

with their crime crisis.

>> Thank you, Mr. Siwa. Uh Mr. Manny, how

would you respond?

>> You know, I agree with police

commissioner Tish and that we do not

need the National Guard here in New York

City. We do not need them for the

purpose of safety because it if it was

safety that President Trump was so

concerned about, he would send them to

the eight out of 10 states that have the

highest levels of crime in this country.

But he won't because they're all run by

Republicans. What New Yorkers need is a

mayor who can stand up to Donald Trump

and actually deliver on that safety.

When Donald Trump sent ICE agents on

people in Los Angeles, Andrew Cuomo said

that New Yorkers need not overreact.

That is the furthest answer that New

Yorkers are looking for. They are

looking for someone who will lead,

someone who will say that they will have

their back, someone who will actually

fight for the people of this city. And

that's who I am because I'm not funded

by the same donors that gave us Donald

Trump's second term, which isn't

something that Andrew Cuomo can say.

>> Thank you, Mr. Mandi miss.

>> Yeah. First the answer in the subways is

not more National Guard. I put National

Guard in the subways also. It's more

NYPD is the answer. But uh the National

Guard is not he's not sending in the

National Guard to do any real function.

It's control. It's power. He's trying to

say these Democrats don't know how to

run these cities and it's a political

gesture by sending in the National

Guard. He has said if the assemblyman is

elected he will take over New York.

Forget the National Guard. But this is

he said, "I'm going to take the funds."

>> They ordered the troops to come here.

What would

>> the Well, I went through this with him.

He sent the National Guard to 20 cities

when I was governor. You know what city?

He didn't He didn't send them to New

York. Why? Because I said to him, "Don't

you dare. We don't need it." And he

backed down and he will again.

>> So that proves a good relation.

>> Wait a second. The president is going to

back down to you, Andrew Cuomo. I know

you you think you're the toughest guy

alive, but let me tell you something.

You lost your own primary, right? You

were rejected by your Democrats, and you

have a difficult understanding that what

the term no is. So, you're not going to

stand up to Donald Trump. And I agree

with Curtis.

>> You're not going to stand up to Donald Trump.

Trump.

>> And he can't stand up to Donald Trump

who knocked him right on his toes. You

negotiate with him. You don't fight with

it because only the people of New York

City will lose.

>> Stand up to negotiate.

>> We have a followup.

>> Uh, I'd like to see a show of hands. Are

there any circumstances where any of you

would allow the NYPD to cooperate with

the National Guard if Trump sent them to

New York? Show of hands. Yes. No takers.

Okay. Moving on. If history as a guide,

National Guard troops in the city could

trigger protests. And we have questions

for each of you about how you would

handle that. So, Mr. Siwa, you have been

arrested for protesting migrant housing

and for trying to serve Mayor Bill

Delasio with court papers. How would

your NYPD handle protests? And would you

continue participating in protests as

mayor? You have one minute.

>> Well, I have been arrested oftent times

in civil disobedience. That is a great

American right. But demonstrations have

a time and a place. And it used to be

before Bill Delasio. I know he was your

favorite mayor. on Mandami that you'd

have to get a permit. There's a time

period you were in a structured area.

You get a sound permit. You'll be turned

around in a day. If there was going to

be civil disobedience, you discussed it

with the police department. And

obviously, you had an opportunity of

expressing your anger or your outrage at

whatever it was that motivated you to

sit down in the street to block traffic

or block an egress. Now we have

rampaging groups that go running through

the streets that enter all kinds of

facilities and violate other people's

rights. And there's no one who's willing

to stop it. When I'm the mayor, there

are rules and regulations. Everybody has

a right to demonstrate. But you can't

violate other people's rights or you

yourself must be arrested. And I would

remove the face coverings. Remove those

face coverings. Why are you afraid of

identifying who you are as a

demonstrator unless maybe you're an

agent provocator who's been sent in here

to cause chaos?

>> Thank you, Rosarina.

>> The next question goes to you, Mr.

Manny. You were arrested for blocking

traffic in a pro Palestinian protest and

you participated in a sitin at Grand

Central. Protesters offered block

streets, bridges, and hubs like Grand

Central. How much of that would you

allowed as mayor? And what's your line

in having the NYPD arrest protesters?

You have a minute.

>> Protest is a part of what makes this

city's history what it is. It is a part

of the First Amendment. We deserve to

have a mayor who stands up for that

first amendment, especially as we have a

president that's looking to shred it at

each and every opportunity. And we will

continue to have protests in this city

as we should no matter who is the mayor.

And the line will be on the question of

breaking the law. What we have today,

however, is an attempt to intimidate so

many who are looking to use that freedom

of expression to share their opinions

about the city and the world around

them. And to be frank with you, what New

Yorkers are looking for is someone who

can show leadership in city hall.

Because when they don't see that

leadership, that's when so many take to

the streets. And if you had a leader

like Andrew Cuomo who was telling people

not to overreact when they see ICE

agents abducting girls as young as 6

years old to deport them, many New

Yorkers will take to the streets. We

deserve to have a leader who will

actually be following through on the

values of the city. That's the leader

that I'll be.

>> Mr. Mandano, just a quick followup. If

you're elected, would you still

participate in protest? >> No.

>> No.

>> If I'm elected, I'll be the mayor and

I'll be leading the city from city hall.

>> But no no participation in protest. Right.

Right.

>> The the important thing is to lead from

city hall. Well, that's what I'll be doing.

doing. >> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> Yeah. If I may respond because I believe

my name was invoked.

>> A very brief response and then I have a

question for you.

>> Uh I dealt with ICE. I stood up with

ICE. I had a war with ICE here in New

York when I was governor.

>> Uh and I stood them down and they moved

out. Uh what the assemblymen are saying

is uh he doesn't believe in law and

order. He believes in defunding the

police, disarming the police, disbanding

the police. That's who he is. Abolish jails.

jails.

>> Question for you. 15 seconds.

And then we do just 15 seconds because

we have a question for Mr. Cuomo.

>> Mr. Cuomo lies again and again and

again. I am not running to defund the

police. I am running to actually work

with the police to deliver public

safety. Andrew Cuomo says that he has

stood up to ICE. He has not said a word

about the abductions that are happening

right now.

>> He's referring to a previous comment you

made and we will get back to this. But

Mr. Cuomo, a question for you.

>> It's a comment he made the operative language.

language.

>> I understand. I said that as governor,

you put the National Guard on standby

during the George Floyd protest. You

didn't deploy them. As mayor, talk about

how you would balance the right to

protest with maintaining order in the streets.

streets.

>> The right to protest. The right to

protest is a sacred right. There is no

doubt about that. But the law is the law

also. And you have New Yorkers now who

are afraid in this city. They're afraid

of Donald Trump coming. They're afraid

of that anarchy. And they're afraid of

the anarchy in this city itself. We have

to provide public safety that makes New

Yorkers feel safe. Demonstration is one

thing. Violating the law is something

else. Blocking public transit is

something else. Stopping students from

going to class is something har else.

Harassment, intimidation, that's a hate

crime. That's illegal. Enforce the law.

Respect the police. They're not racists,

uh, as the assemblyman calls them.

They're not a threat to public safety,

as he says. They're not anti-quer.

Uh they are here to protect New Yorkers,

work with them, fortify them. You know,

that's that's ironic that you say that. Now,

Now,

>> I'm sorry,

>> Andrew Cuomo, because when you were

governor for 8 years, your parole board

released 43 cop killers back into the

street. Your father, when he was

governor, released none. I knew Mario

Cuomo. You're no Mario Cuomo. Andrew

Cuomo. you released. Don't say you're

respond briefly to the comments that Mr.

Cuomo raised about things you've said

about police. You can do a brief

response to that.

>> I have been clear time and time again

that as much as Andrew Cuomo wants to

bring up tweets from 2020, which is

around the same time that he was sending

seniors to their death in nursing homes.

I am looking to work with police

officers, not to defund the NYPD,

looking to ensure that officers can

actually do one job when they're signing

up to join that department. Not the many

jobs we're asking today.

>> Specifically referring to comments you

made. We will come back to that, but

we're allowed and racist. That's what

you said. Your words, your words.

>> We're moving on. Thank you.

>> Despite record low crime numbers, polls

show that crime remains a top concern

for New York City voters. The three of

you have very different approaches to

crime fighting and how to manage the

NYPD. We want to get into your plans.

So, we'll start with this question. It's

a two-part question, but it's short. How

will you make the city safer and how

will you change the NYPD? You'll have

one minute. We begin with Mr. Cuomo.

>> Uh, I would add 5,000. Well, let's take

a step back. Remember what happened. The

far left, the socialists, defund the

police. Defund the police. They took a

billion dollars out of the police. The

NYPD is now down at one of the lowest

levels in modern political history. I

would add 5,000 police, put 1,500 in the

subways. Raise the starting salary

because you can't hire them. You can't

even fill a class right now. Uh and you

have to add additional police officers

because the attrition rate is so high.

Uh part of that is going to be saying to

the NYPD, I respect you. I don't think

you're wicked. As the assemblyman said,

I don't think you're corrupt. I don't

think you're racist. I value you. I will

have your back. I'll be a mayor to work

with you. Uh that's how you're going to

get the police uh uh to apply for the

jobs. And then we have to work on the

relationship between the community and

the police.

>> The police can't police the community.

They have to police.

Next, Mr. Lewa.

>> This is amazing. I'm standing here with

my two adversaries, both of whom have

threatened to defund the police. You,

Andrew Cuomo, during the summer of 2020,

you said, "If you don't reform police

departments, I'm going to defund you."

And you certainly said that. Zorhan

Mandami, we need 7,000 police. We only

have 32,500.

The problem in recruiting police, which

neither of you are addressing, is that

their insurance was stripped from them.

The state, you did nothing when you were

governor. And here in the city 2021, the

city council and Eric Adams did nothing.

They don't have qualified immunity,

which you benefited from, Andrew Cuomo,

with the 13 lawsuits filed against you

for sexual harassment. Tom Dapoli says,

"We're paying out $60 million." Why? Cuz

you had your qualified immunity as

governor. And yet, people have stood by

as police have lost their insurance that

all civil servants have. That's why you

can't get recruits in because they're

not insured. I will return their

qualified immunity because they need to

be protected like other civil servants.

>> That is not New York State. It's New

York City underqualified insurance.

Unqualified immunity. It's not insurance

at all.

>> You are entitled to legal counsel, which

is what he's referring to. You have spent

spent

>> Yes. But it's New York City that has uh

revoke qualified immunity. It's not

insurance. It's qualified immunity. has

nothing to do with insurance.

>> Well, that protected you in all these

>> lawsuits and yes, the lawsuits because

there was a report filed. I said it was

political. It turned out to be uh

political and that's why

>> all 13 women were lying. Come on,

Andrew. All 13 women were lying. After

five years, a state trooper too. Yeah.

After 5 years, five das, 5 years of

litigation, I was dropped from the case.

>> Mr. Mandani, how are you once in a while?

while?

>> Okay. Mr. Mr. Mandani, how will you make

the city safer and how will you change

the NYPD?

>> Thank you. This is the concern for so

many New Yorkers and I'm proud to have a

comprehensive plan to bring new ideas to

this city. If you want more of the same,

vote for Andrew Cuomo. If you want an

actual approach to lower crime, look at

our Department of Community Safety. That

is something that has been hailed by

experts as addressing so many of the

pieces of why New Yorkers are not

feeling safe today. We will ensure that

no longer are police officers asked to

do the job of both policing and

responding to the mental health crisis.

We will have dedicated teams of mental

health outreach workers in the top 100

subway stations with the highest levels

of the mental health crisis and

homelessness. We will ensure that cops

can finally go back to the response

times they used to have in 2020, closer

to 11 minutes, as opposed to the closer

to 16 minutes today, because they won't

be asked to respond to the 200,000

mental health calls that are coming in

through 911 every year. This is

evidence-based. It's been successful

elsewhere in the country. It's time we

deliver it right here in New York City.

It's time for

>> Thank you, Mr. Mandani.

>> Mandami, we already had the homeless

outreach unit of cops and mental health.

Another question for Mr. >> Mi

>> Mi

funded them by billion dollar.

>> Thank you.

>> Excuse me, Mr. Manny. We're going to

talk about disciplining police officers.

The civilian watchdog that investigates

police misconduct regularly recommends

discipline for cops accused of

wrongdoing, but the police commissioner

often overrides them. You want to change

that policy so that the board has final

say. Please explain to viewers in 30

seconds why you believe the police

commissioner should no longer have that

final say. What I've said is that I

think it's time to remove much of the

politics out of the question of

accountability. We have the civilian

complaint review board which as you said

studies, assesses and investigates into

complaints of abuse and the violation of

the law and often times those

recommendations are then subject to

political pressures and not followed

through on. I think New Yorkers deserve

a system where they know it won't then

be assessed once again that there's

actually more to the recommendation in

the investigation that's being done by

the CCR. We're wrapping up. Thank you.

>> Thank you, Mr. Mandani. Mr. Cuomo, do

you believe changes are needed for how

officers are disciplined and are there

any powers that you would give up as

mayor? You have 30 seconds.

>> Yeah, I would uh not remove the police

commissioner from the CCB. Uh I'd leave

it with the police commissioner. I think

Commissioner Tish is doing a very good

job. I would trust her. Uh the

difference between me and the

assemblyman is he doesn't like the

police. That's why he won't hire more

police when everyone else says we need

more police. He wants to use social

workers on domestic violence calls which

are very dangerous. Uh and he's told you

what he thinks. He thinks the police are

racist, wicked, corrupt, and a threat to

public safety. Those are his words.

>> Very quick, Mr. Mr. Mumdani. Very quick.

>> Look, Andrew Cuomo is a politician of

the past, and all he can speak about are

the tweets of the past in 2020. Those

are tweets which I have apologized for

to New Yorkers and police officers

directly and they are not what I am

actually running on. You're incapable of

actually speaking about the platform

that we have here which is one that will

keep New Yorkers safe.

>> Can we just quickly ask you because I

think what some people feel they haven't

heard from you. We hear you saying that

you don't believe that anymore and

you've apologized. People have not heard

you sort of describe the evolution of

your thought, how you got from there to

here. You know, growing up in this city,

I would think often about safety and

justice and the ways in which that that

relationship has been irrevocably harmed

when I learned about the exonerated

five, when I learned about Shawn Bell,

when I learned about Eric Garner, when I

learned about Michael Brown, and then in

2020 when I wrote these tweets, learning

about the death of George Floyd. And

that was a moment where it felt as if

the distance between these two ideals

had never been further. And in becoming

an assembly member and serving and

representing more than 100,000 people in

Queens, learning that to deliver justice

means to also deliver safety. And that

means leading a city where you recognize

the bravery of the men and women who

joined the NYPD and put their lives on

the line. It means representing the

Muslims who were illegally surveiled in

my district and the black and brown New

Yorkers who've been victims of police brutality.

brutality.

>> So So Mr. ly you've been out there,

you've been on the trains and I would

like to know if you believe changes are

needed of how officers are disciplined.

>> Let me just suggest Zorhan what you've suggested.

suggested.

>> Zoran, Curtis, >> Zoran,

>> Zoran,

>> excuse me.

>> Let me just suggest what you have

proposed with this new police outrage

unit will endanger women and children in

domestic violence situations. I know

I've been involved in so many of them

with the Guardian Angels. They will be

killed. They will be maimed. Number two,

in dealing with emotionally disturbed

persons that I have dealt with for all

my years as a guardian angels, you need

trained professional police officers.

Yes, you can have mental health workers

with them. Thank you, Mr. But that has

been suggested. It was done before by

the homeless outreach and the guy you

thought was the best Delasio disbanded.

>> Mr. Lewood, thank you. Brief response.

To be very clear, the Department of

Community Safety is not about responding

to calls of domestic violence. We are

speaking about mental health crisis and

the homelessness crisis. These are the

focuses of the work that they will do.

>> All right, we we we have other questions

for that a little later in the debate,

but we want to just change the pace a

little bit, candidates, switching gears

to the high cost of living in New York

City. Uh to kick us off, we have a few

quick pocketbook questions that New

Yorkers wrestle with daily. So, we want

to know how much you spend a week on

groceries. We'll begin with you, Mr. Cuomo.

Cuomo.

Uh, depends how many times my daughters

come over. Uh, but probably about $150.

>> Okay, Mr. Sa.

>> Oh, I'd say about $175

with a gallon of milk. Now $5 and always

rising up. Loaf of bread. Simple loaf of

bread. It used to be 99 cent $3 now.

>> Price is too costly.

>> A brief answer. Thank you, Mr. Mani.

>> Yeah, I actually agree with Curtis on

that. It is too costly. Now that eggs

are down to less than four bucks though,

my average spend every week is about

1251 150.

>> All right. Do you carry credit card debt

or do you pay it off every month? Mr. Mandani,

Mandani,

>> I pay it off every month.

>> Mr. Cuomo,

>> pay it off.

>> Mr. SWA,

>> I don't have a credit card. I have a

debit card.

>> And for the record, what is your monthly

rent or mortgage, Mr. SWA?

>> Uh, about 3,900.

Uh, it's not uh subsidized as

>> Mr. Mani, what is your monthly rent or mortgage?

mortgage? >> $2,300.

>> $2,300.

>> Mr. Qu,

>> he has a rent stabilized apartment that

a poor person supposed to have. Uh, mine

is about $7,800. Okay,

>> we are actually getting to that.

>> We're going to we're going to cover that

subject. Sal,

>> thank you. Uh, we're going to talk a

little bit more about the runaway rent

in this city. Mr. Mdani, you're pledging

to freeze rent for nearly 1 million rent

stabilized apartments. That really

affects less than half of all rentals in

the city. What is your plan for those

who aren't in stabilized apartments but

are struggling to pay the rent? What are

you going to do for them?

>> Well, I'm proud to say that I yes will

freeze the rent for more than 2 million

rentstabilized tenants. And I will also

build 200,000 truly affordable homes

across the five buraus over the next 10

years to ensure that tenants, whether

rent stabilized or market rate, can

actually have more housing such that

they are not being priced out of this

city. And finally, I'm also going to

make it easier for the private sector to

build housing in this city because what

we see today is that it's not labor,

it's not materials, it's the weight that

is often costing so many so much to

actually build the housing we need in

this city.

>> Thank you. And a followup for you, Mr.

Mandani. The cost of maintaining a

building change yeartoear for landlords.

The rent guidelines board is legally

required to consider those costs when

deciding whether to freeze rents. So,

how can you promise a rent freeze today

before ever seeing that data next year?

You know, we've seen the data time and

again. It's data data. It's been data

that's been overruled by mayors again

and again. The last rent guidelines

board study showed that profits were up

12% for landlords of those units. And

what did they do? They raised the rent,

adding to more than 12% under Eric Adams

administration. What I am speaking about

is actually reflecting the needs of

these New Yorkers and the state of the

market today. These are New Yorkers who

have a median household income of

$60,000. We do not need to be pushing

them further out of the city. We need to

keep them in their homes.

>> Aren't you saying in that answer that

you are going to prejudge? You will not

have seen the data for next year and

you're making a determination based on

data you haven't seen.

>> I've seen the data year after year of

the fact that salaries are stagnating,

costs are up. New Yorkers can't actually

afford their apartments. And I will also

take action to actually ensure that the

landlords of those buildings can better

handle their costs by taking on their

insurance, their property taxes, and

their I didn't see

I do have a question for you on this

subject. You have proposed something

that you're calling Zoron's law. You

think that Mr. Mandani earns too much to

live in his rentstabilized apartment.

Though I should note that there are no

income tests for rent stabilized

apartments. But critics say your plan

would force people to pay too much of

their income towards the rent. So if you

think Mr. M Donnie is gaming the system.

What about the other New Yorkers?

Thousands of them just like him who earn

similar salaries who are living in

similar apartments.

>> Okay, just to follow up on what Sally

was saying because she's right. Uh this

is not a new plan that the assemblyman

is talking about. It's Bill Delasio's

plan. It was called freeze the rent.

Bill Delasio says uh the mayor can't say

legally he's going to freeze the rent.

There's a rent guidelines board. There

are certain uh considerations that have

to be looked at. You're right, Sally.

You can't say today what it's going to

be in four years. Uh, also freeze the

rent uh only postpones the rent because

then you have to have an increase to

cover the costs otherwise the building

is going to go bankrupt and it does

nothing for the majority of renters who

aren't in these rent stabilized units.

Does nothing for NICHA does nothing for

homeowners. There does nothing for

people in black brown communities who

are getting priced out. I was the HUD

secretary. I built affordable housing

all across this nation. I built

affordable housing in this city when I

was in my 20s. I know how to get it

done. I will get it done on the

rentstabilized units. What I'm saying is

those are the precious units and we

should keep them for the most part. We

have to move on. But I have a question

for you.

>> No, sorry. He invoked me for much of

that question. Just a very brief

response here.

>> Very brief.

>> You know, you've heard it from Andrew

Cuomo that the number one crisis in this

city, the housing crisis, the answer is

to evict my wife and I. He thinks you

address this crisis by unleashing my

landlord's ability to raise my rent. If

you think that the problem in this city

is that my rent is too low, vote for

him. If you know the problem in this

city is that your rent is too high, vote

for me.

>> If I understand it correctly, sons of

millionaires need subsidized housing.

>> It would not evict.

>> It would apply to people applying for

the tenant but the tenants. It would

affect it would evict no one. This this

this income limitation

for Mrs. Ros fat in the schoolyard. Let

me Mr. Rosary has a specific question

for you on this.

>> Yeah. Well, I wanted to talk about

affordability obviously address that issue.

issue.

>> So, you've proposed Mr. Leewa plans that

would made a point of talking about the

struggle of renters and property owners.

Describe your plan to help renters and

landlords. Well, first off, we have

6,000 available apartments that a mayor

controls in Nicha and they've been empty

for years. That you address number one.

Then we talk about senior citizens who

are living here. My whole goal is to

improve and not to move. I'm concerned

about the seniors, especially those that

own homes. If they're 65 and make less

than $250,000,

no property tax, cuz the property tax is

way too high. We need to cut it in half

to keep people who are here. And then in

terms of rentals, we have affordable

housing that can be built in these huge

skyscrapers. You see them all throughout

Manhattan and in Northern Brooklyn and

in Long Island City, which we have 25

Empire State buildings full of

commercial space that will never be

occupied for office space. We should be

converting them into affordable

apartments. They're in dense areas. the

infrastructure can support it. I'm the

only candidate here who's against the

city of that would destroy residential.

>> I have to interrupt you because we have

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Gentlemen, gentlemen, thank you. That

was kind of a natural point for us to

transition and we want to talk now about

transportation and getting around town.

And we have a few quick questions about

how you get around town. Show of hands.

Even though they're in their waning

days, who has a metro card or maybe uses Omnipay?

Omnipay?

>> Uses Omnipay.

>> The Omnipay.

Metro card. I mean, I have one, but you

know, I know I'm hanging on to the last one.

one.

>> So, you're on the subways, Mr. Well,

what do you use? I'm just curious if you

>> Omni card. In fact, I got a whole batch.

I'm in the subways. I mean, the buses,

the express buses. The only candidate

who rides mass transit every day.

>> When you need to get somewhere fast and

you can't take the train, do you hail a

taxi? Do you use ride share? Mr. Leo,

what do you do?

>> I try to avoid yellow cabs. As you know,

I was shot in the back of a yellow cab

in 1992 by the Gottis and Gambinos. Uh,

but I find my way around if I have to. I

I Uber if I can't get there by mass track.

track.

>> What do you do, Mr. Ramdan, if you can't

take the train?

>> I would either take a cab or ride a bike.

bike.

>> Mr. Cuomo,

>> uh, I would take a cab, Uber.

>> Okay. All right. Thanks, Miss Ali.

>> Thank you, David. Uh, let's talk about

free buses. Um, Mr. Mum Donnie, this is

a centerpiece of your campaign. Can you

explain how you will make buses free?

You have 30 seconds to answer.

>> Absolutely. We will make buses free by

replacing the revenue that the MTA

currently gets from buses. This is

revenue that's around $700 million or

so. That's less money than Andrew Cuomo

gave to Elon Musk and $959 million in

tax credits when he was the governor.

And the reason that we will do so is

that making buses free doesn't just

provide economic relief, but also public

safety. Because what we've seen is that

it decreases assaults on bus drivers by 38.9%.

38.9%.

New Yorkers deserve more than the

slowest buses in the country. I know

that because I was on the M57 not too

long ago and its average speed is 4.9 miles.

miles.

>> We're at time though. But the question

is how you'll make them free.

>> We will fund the revenue that would have

otherwise been brought in from fairs and

that's something that we would do in

partnership with Albany and I've put

forward two proposals. The first is to

raise taxes on the top 1% of New Yorkers

by 2%. That would raise $4 billion. The

second is to raise the state's top

corporate tax rate to match that of New

Jersey, which would raise $5 billion.

We're going to move along, but I just

want to point out to viewers that

Governor Hokll has opposed raising the

income tax.

>> But Melissa, we'll move on to your question.

question.

>> Could I address that on the buses

because half the people don't pay this

their bus fair to begin with? Uh, Zorhot

and so

>> Zoron Curtis Zoron.

>> Zor, it's a complete disaster if you

have free bus fair and the Citizens

Budget Commission said just last year

2024, a billion dollars of fair evasion

in all different forms. This MTA system

will collapse. There's not enough money

out there to make up for fair evasion.

Pay your fair. If you don't pay your

fair, they have fair fair programs for

the poor and the indigent, but everybody

should be forced to pay their fair.

>> Mr. Cuomo, you had both praise and some

criticism for Mr. Mandani's free bus

pilots. So, you're sort of in the middle

on this issue. What's your plan to make

subways and buses more affordable?

>> I think I think free buses is a mistake.

cost about $700 million just to give you

an idea that we only raised about 500

from congestion pricing. It's been done

before in other cities. It was a disaster. They stopped. They basically

disaster. They stopped. They basically became mobile homeless

became mobile homeless uh uh gathering places. What I say is

uh uh gathering places. What I say is free buses for working families who

free buses for working families who can't afford it and free subways for

can't afford it and free subways for working families, but don't subsidize

working families, but don't subsidize rich people uh on a bus. uh and uh it's

rich people uh on a bus. uh and uh it's been tried and it failed.

been tried and it failed. >> Mr. Mandani, can you just respond

>> Mr. Mandani, can you just respond quickly on the point about the uh mobile

quickly on the point about the uh mobile homeless gathering places?

homeless gathering places? >> You know, this is something that we

>> You know, this is something that we heard when we were fighting to make

heard when we were fighting to make buses free in Albany when we delivered

buses free in Albany when we delivered the first fair free bus lines in New

the first fair free bus lines in New York City history. And what we saw is

York City history. And what we saw is when we made one bus route free in each

when we made one bus route free in each burrow of New York City, there was no

burrow of New York City, there was no increase in homelessness on those buses.

increase in homelessness on those buses. There was no increase in fair evasion in

There was no increase in fair evasion in the surrounding area. What there was was

the surrounding area. What there was was an increase in ridership of up to 38.

an increase in ridership of up to 38. Can maybe we can dig deeper on this and

Can maybe we can dig deeper on this and get a sense of how all of you would pay

get a sense of how all of you would pay for your big ideas. Mr. Roman Donnie,

for your big ideas. Mr. Roman Donnie, we'll start with you. We've obviously

we'll start with you. We've obviously been talking about free buses. You've

been talking about free buses. You've talked about free child care, cityrun

talked about free child care, cityrun grocery stores. So essentially, you're

grocery stores. So essentially, you're proposing about $10 billion in new

proposing about $10 billion in new spending. And as you've indicated, you

spending. And as you've indicated, you want to pay for it with tax increases,

want to pay for it with tax increases, but as Sally pointed out, Governor Hokll

but as Sally pointed out, Governor Hokll said no to raising income tax on

said no to raising income tax on millionaires. So tell New Yorkers

millionaires. So tell New Yorkers tonight how you're going to pay for all

tonight how you're going to pay for all of this in one minute if you can. Look,

of this in one minute if you can. Look, a lot of people have called even my

a lot of people have called even my campaign a non-starter when we first

campaign a non-starter when we first began. And now I stand before you proud

began. And now I stand before you proud to be the Democratic nominee who got the

to be the Democratic nominee who got the most votes in city primary history. And

most votes in city primary history. And I believe we will see the same thing

I believe we will see the same thing with our push to ensure that we are

with our push to ensure that we are taxing the wealthiest and the most

taxing the wealthiest and the most profitable corporations the fair amount

profitable corporations the fair amount that they should pay. Now, there are

that they should pay. Now, there are those who will say that because it will

those who will say that because it will be hard, you should give up. We saw what

be hard, you should give up. We saw what giving up looked like when Andrew Cuomo

giving up looked like when Andrew Cuomo was the governor. He gave up on fighting

was the governor. He gave up on fighting for working-class New Yorkers and

for working-class New Yorkers and instead caved in to his billionaire

instead caved in to his billionaire donors. And what did we get? We have the

donors. And what did we get? We have the fastest and most frequent helicopter

fastest and most frequent helicopter service to the Hamptons and we have the

service to the Hamptons and we have the slowest and more expensive bus service

slowest and more expensive bus service across the five burrows.

across the five burrows. >> But again, Mr. Rodan, I know Governor

>> But again, Mr. Rodan, I know Governor Hokll indicated this week there may be

Hokll indicated this week there may be some some open windows, but more or less

some some open windows, but more or less income tax on millionaires is off the

income tax on millionaires is off the table according to the governor.

table according to the governor. >> Look, I've said very clearly making

>> Look, I've said very clearly making buses fast and free costs about $700

buses fast and free costs about $700 million a year. Making universal child

million a year. Making universal child care a reality costs about five or six

care a reality costs about five or six billion dollars a year. If you raise the

billion dollars a year. If you raise the state's top corporate tax rate to match

state's top corporate tax rate to match that of New Jersey, you'd be raising

that of New Jersey, you'd be raising five billion in of itself.

five billion in of itself. >> I have I have a couple, you're next, but

>> I have I have a couple, you're next, but I have a couple followers.

I have a couple followers. >> I would just want to add one additional

>> I would just want to add one additional thing.

thing. >> We have also put forward a plan to save

>> We have also put forward a plan to save money here in New York City with a

money here in New York City with a billion dollars in savings through

billion dollars in savings through procurement reform, through following

procurement reform, through following the independent budget offic's

the independent budget offic's assessment about hiring more fiscal

assessment about hiring more fiscal auditors, and in actually collecting the

auditors, and in actually collecting the fines and fees from bad landlords across

fines and fees from bad landlords across >> and just a quick couple of follow-ups.

>> and just a quick couple of follow-ups. If you could find some of the funding

If you could find some of the funding but not all of it, which of your

but not all of it, which of your priorities would come first? What would

priorities would come first? What would be the first among equals that you would

be the first among equals that you would try to get done?

try to get done? >> Well, freezing the rent doesn't require

>> Well, freezing the rent doesn't require any fiscal infusion. So, that will be

any fiscal infusion. So, that will be something we'll be pursuing immediately.

something we'll be pursuing immediately. And universal childare after housing is

And universal childare after housing is the second cost. Childare is the second

the second cost. Childare is the second cost pushing New Yorkers out of this

cost pushing New Yorkers out of this city. $225,000 a year is the estimate

city. $225,000 a year is the estimate we've seen. That will be a priority for

we've seen. That will be a priority for us.

us. >> And I just want to know if uh you could

>> And I just want to know if uh you could get the money and funding elsewhere,

get the money and funding elsewhere, would you drop the call for the tax

would you drop the call for the tax increase?

increase? >> Absolutely. The most important thing is

>> Absolutely. The most important thing is funding these agenda items. I think

funding these agenda items. I think these are the two most important and

these are the two most important and straightforward direct ways to do so.

straightforward direct ways to do so. But if the money comes from elsewhere,

But if the money comes from elsewhere, the most important thing has a question

the most important thing has a question for Mr. Lew.

for Mr. Lew. >> Mr. Sway, you've been talking about

>> Mr. Sway, you've been talking about cutting taxes and spending. So, what is

cutting taxes and spending. So, what is your plan and how would you pay for your

your plan and how would you pay for your programs like 7,000 more cops?

programs like 7,000 more cops? >> Well, Zoron, uh, boy, your fantasies

>> Well, Zoron, uh, boy, your fantasies are never going to come about in terms

are never going to come about in terms of funding everything you want that's

of funding everything you want that's going to be free, free, free. It's a

going to be free, free, free. It's a fantasy. Let's deal with the reality.

fantasy. Let's deal with the reality. 7,000 cops. You already have a plan in

7,000 cops. You already have a plan in Boston where you pay for taxes in the

Boston where you pay for taxes in the future. This is a great plan in which

future. This is a great plan in which universities and others who have bought

universities and others who have bought up properties uh that are now uh taken

up properties uh that are now uh taken from the real estate market and taken

from the real estate market and taken from property tax pay. We could raise a

from property tax pay. We could raise a billion dollars from Columbia

billion dollars from Columbia University, NYU that are in the real

University, NYU that are in the real estate business and Madison Square

estate business and Madison Square Garden, your friends, Andrew Cuomo,

Garden, your friends, Andrew Cuomo, Jimmy Dolan, who pays no property taxes.

Jimmy Dolan, who pays no property taxes. That's how you raise a billion dollars

That's how you raise a billion dollars to get 700 police officers trained,

to get 700 police officers trained, vetted, and out into the streets in the

vetted, and out into the streets in the five burrows. And then the police will

five burrows. And then the police will be on the subways and they will be

be on the subways and they will be patrolling the oldfashioned way where

patrolling the oldfashioned way where they're needed going up and down the

they're needed going up and down the moving subway cars where people want to

moving subway cars where people want to see the visual protection especially

see the visual protection especially women who are being assaulted perved and

women who are being assaulted perved and like we saw this morning on 86th Street

like we saw this morning on 86th Street a woman with a gun to her head an armed

a woman with a gun to her head an armed robbery because you don't have enough

robbery because you don't have enough cops.

cops. >> I have a question for you in this topic

>> I have a question for you in this topic and let's talk about history because as

and let's talk about history because as governor you raised and cut taxes. Now,

governor you raised and cut taxes. Now, you're proposing some tax relief. What's

you're proposing some tax relief. What's the price tag for your proposals? And

the price tag for your proposals? And where will you get the money for, for

where will you get the money for, for example, 5,000 new police officers? You

example, 5,000 new police officers? You have a minute to answer.

have a minute to answer. >> Yeah. Uh, I think Sally's question was

>> Yeah. Uh, I think Sally's question was very well taken. Uh, the assemblyman's

very well taken. Uh, the assemblyman's whole plan is based on a myth. Uh, he's

whole plan is based on a myth. Uh, he's going to raise taxes. Albony is going to

going to raise taxes. Albony is going to raise taxes statewide on corporations,

raise taxes statewide on corporations, but the money is only going to go to New

but the money is only going to go to New York City. That could never happen. It's

York City. That could never happen. It's not just that the governor wouldn't

not just that the governor wouldn't support it. It's impossible. He said

support it. It's impossible. He said he's going to raise the taxes the same

he's going to raise the taxes the same as New Jersey corporate tax. No, it

as New Jersey corporate tax. No, it would be double the tax. You would see

would be double the tax. You would see New Yorkers on 995 fleeing to Florida.

New Yorkers on 995 fleeing to Florida. We would be alone. Uh so you have to be

We would be alone. Uh so you have to be realistic with revenue. You have $15

realistic with revenue. You have $15 billion budget. You have to go through

billion budget. You have to go through that city budget and find savings. I

that city budget and find savings. I started the state. It had which is

started the state. It had which is double the budget of the city. at a $10

double the budget of the city. at a $10 billion deficit. I closed it and added

billion deficit. I closed it and added services. And we can do the same with

services. And we can do the same with New York City.

New York City. >> Governor, as mayor, you would not

>> Governor, as mayor, you would not increase spending in the New York City

increase spending in the New York City budget. Yes or no?

budget. Yes or no? >> There would be whatever additional

>> There would be whatever additional spending would be revenue neutral.

spending would be revenue neutral. >> So, is it possible? You got to cut you

>> So, is it possible? You got to cut you got to cut taxes for people to stay

got to cut taxes for people to stay here.

here. >> The corporations are not going to stay

>> The corporations are not going to stay here. They're being lured south. The

here. They're being lured south. The cities that are more corporate friendly.

cities that are more corporate friendly. We got to cut the property tax income

We got to cut the property tax income tax for those who are 19 to 28 skill

tax for those who are 19 to 28 skill levels if they go to school here.

levels if they go to school here. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> Andrew Cuomo thinks it's all right to

>> Andrew Cuomo thinks it's all right to spend $60 million to fund his legal

spend $60 million to fund his legal defense from accusations of more than a

defense from accusations of more than a dozen women of sexual harassment. But if

dozen women of sexual harassment. But if I say we should spend the same amount of

I say we should spend the same amount of money on delivering cheaper groceries in

money on delivering cheaper groceries in this city through a pilot program, that

this city through a pilot program, that is unfathomable.

is unfathomable. >> Quick, I got a right to respond to that

>> Quick, I got a right to respond to that quickly. first uh I did not bring those

quickly. first uh I did not bring those lawsuits that was brought by by the

lawsuits that was brought by by the attorney general which I said was

attorney general which I said was political that were generated by

political that were generated by individual women and some of them have

individual women and some of them have still been making their way through the

still been making their way through the courts this year and

courts this year and >> yes and have been dropped from the cases

>> yes and have been dropped from the cases >> not all of them yeah and the what the

>> not all of them yeah and the what the assemblyman doesn't say is all this

assemblyman doesn't say is all this money that he wants to pass uh the one

money that he wants to pass uh the one thing he did do is he voted for a pay

thing he did do is he voted for a pay raise for himself they're the highest

raise for himself they're the highest paid legislator in

paid legislator in I did I did ask the state controllers

I did I did ask the state controllers office this week I did ask the state

office this week I did ask the state controllers's office this week the total

controllers's office this week the total was above 60 million but just those

was above 60 million but just those sexual harassment cases to defend

sexual harassment cases to defend Governor Cuomo and his staff was about

Governor Cuomo and his staff was about 21

21 >> sorry it was the sexual harassment and

>> sorry it was the sexual harassment and >> I just want to clarify because you said

>> I just want to clarify because you said 60 but on those it was 21.

60 but on those it was 21. >> Thank you. We have to talk about quality

>> Thank you. We have to talk about quality of life in the city. Let's turn to

of life in the city. Let's turn to everyday life in the city and some

everyday life in the city and some issues a mayor can directly impact. We

issues a mayor can directly impact. We start with a couple of questions about

start with a couple of questions about 311, the number New Yorkers call or text

311, the number New Yorkers call or text for non-emergency help. First off, have

for non-emergency help. First off, have you ever called 311? And if so, for

you ever called 311? And if so, for what, Mr. Mumdonni?

what, Mr. Mumdonni? >> I called 311 uh for issues with my

>> I called 311 uh for issues with my heating in my apartment, and I've spoken

heating in my apartment, and I've spoken to New Yorkers time and time again who

to New Yorkers time and time again who are frustrated by the fact that they can

are frustrated by the fact that they can track their Uber Eats block by block,

track their Uber Eats block by block, but when they call 311 for them to come

but when they call 311 for them to come to their apartment, it's just a question

to their apartment, it's just a question of hoping and praying that they do.

of hoping and praying that they do. There's no actual appointment. That's

There's no actual appointment. That's something that we would change.

something that we would change. >> All right, Mr. SWA, have you ever called

>> All right, Mr. SWA, have you ever called 311?

311? >> You know, there used to be that song 911

>> You know, there used to be that song 911 is a joke by Public Enemy. 311 is a

is a joke by Public Enemy. 311 is a joke.

joke. >> You can call it over and over and over

>> You can call it over and over and over again. And you never get the analytics

again. And you never get the analytics are when the operators talk to you, I

are when the operators talk to you, I talk to them.

talk to them. >> Have you called?

>> Have you called? >> Yes, I've called them many times and

>> Yes, I've called them many times and gotten no response. Most citizens I talk

gotten no response. Most citizens I talk to on the subways and streets never get

to on the subways and streets never get good responses from answer. Mr.

good responses from answer. Mr. I've heard a lot of complaints about

I've heard a lot of complaints about 311. So I actually made a call to 311

311. So I actually made a call to 311 myself to see if the complaints were

myself to see if the complaints were bonafidey. Uh and uh I was uh dropped

bonafidey. Uh and uh I was uh dropped twice. Uh then they were going to send

twice. Uh then they were going to send someone to uh find help a homeless woman

someone to uh find help a homeless woman in distress. All right. Uh and no one

in distress. All right. Uh and no one showed up.

showed up. >> You're all expressing frustration. Last

>> You're all expressing frustration. Last year 311 received 38 million contacts

year 311 received 38 million contacts from New Yorkers from calls to the

from New Yorkers from calls to the website. wanted to know if you had a

website. wanted to know if you had a sense across five burrows what the top

sense across five burrows what the top two categories of complaints were. What

two categories of complaints were. What do you think they were Mr. Selma?

do you think they were Mr. Selma? >> Uh potholes constantly potholes,

>> Uh potholes constantly potholes, people's undercarriages ripped out, ball

people's undercarriages ripped out, ball bearings.

bearings. >> Second one. Top two

>> Second one. Top two >> rats.

>> rats. >> Rats. Okay.

>> Rats. Okay. >> The city is flooded with rats.

>> The city is flooded with rats. >> Mr. Cuomo, what do you think the top two

>> Mr. Cuomo, what do you think the top two complaints were?

complaints were? >> Homeless and uh trash rats.

>> Homeless and uh trash rats. >> All right, Mr. Mdani,

>> All right, Mr. Mdani, >> there was housing and noise. Okay, so

>> there was housing and noise. Okay, so the answer is noise and illegal parking.

the answer is noise and illegal parking. And we're going to stick with quality of

And we're going to stick with quality of life. Rosarina,

life. Rosarina, >> that's right. And let's talk about noise

>> that's right. And let's talk about noise candidates because they fall into these

candidates because they fall into these two categories. First of all is the

two categories. First of all is the residential one. That's the neighbors

residential one. That's the neighbors and the loud music. And the second one

and the loud music. And the second one is a street or sidewalk. Everything with

is a street or sidewalk. Everything with a loud construction and workers outside.

a loud construction and workers outside. So, Mr. Cuomo, as mayor, what can you do

So, Mr. Cuomo, as mayor, what can you do to help this city that never sleeps get

to help this city that never sleeps get a little bit of rest? Mr. Cuomo.

a little bit of rest? Mr. Cuomo. >> Yeah. Look, I think uh if the 311 system

>> Yeah. Look, I think uh if the 311 system worked well, if there was actually

worked well, if there was actually contact with people, I think New Yorkers

contact with people, I think New Yorkers would get it. I think New Yorkers would

would get it. I think New Yorkers would be responsive. Uh I think we have to

be responsive. Uh I think we have to change the the ethos in this city, the

change the the ethos in this city, the ethic in this city. Uh right now it's

ethic in this city. Uh right now it's toxic. It's divisive. Uh everyone's

toxic. It's divisive. Uh everyone's angry at everyone. I think when we have

angry at everyone. I think when we have public safety that's functional again uh

public safety that's functional again uh and uh New Yorkers are part of that

and uh New Yorkers are part of that system, I think they would be more

system, I think they would be more cooperative than you think.

cooperative than you think. >> Thank you very much. There's no propos

>> Thank you very much. There's no propos Mr. Siwa, how would you quiet a little

Mr. Siwa, how would you quiet a little bit the city that never sleeps?

bit the city that never sleeps? >> In the outer burrows, I see problems all

>> In the outer burrows, I see problems all the time. Quality of life issues. uh

the time. Quality of life issues. uh 18-wheel tractor trailers, RVs pass uh

18-wheel tractor trailers, RVs pass uh parked everywhere, garbage that's uh not

parked everywhere, garbage that's uh not picked up and collected in the city.

picked up and collected in the city. We've seen trash uh cans taken away by

We've seen trash uh cans taken away by the sanitation department, Jessica Tish,

the sanitation department, Jessica Tish, when she was the commissioner. The

when she was the commissioner. The quality of life has diminished

quality of life has diminished noticeably. So naturally, people going

noticeably. So naturally, people going to revert to 311. But it's important

to revert to 311. But it's important that a mayor be able to provide services

that a mayor be able to provide services to all the people. and they believe if

to all the people. and they believe if quality of life is diminished, the next

quality of life is diminished, the next stop is sell your house and leave the

stop is sell your house and leave the city. And my goal is to improve and not

city. And my goal is to improve and not move.

move. >> Miss Mr. Mumdani, your turn.

>> Miss Mr. Mumdani, your turn. >> What we've seen is one of the biggest

>> What we've seen is one of the biggest sources of noise in this city is from

sources of noise in this city is from congestion. And with the implementation

congestion. And with the implementation of congestion pricing, we've actually

of congestion pricing, we've actually seen noise complaints drop in the

seen noise complaints drop in the congestion zone. And so I would continue

congestion zone. And so I would continue to find ways to ensure that we have

to find ways to ensure that we have reduced congestion across the city. And

reduced congestion across the city. And one of the ways is by making the slowest

one of the ways is by making the slowest buses in America ones that are fast and

buses in America ones that are fast and free so that New Yorkers can not only

free so that New Yorkers can not only live a life of excellent quality of

live a life of excellent quality of life, but also be able to get around

life, but also be able to get around this city without having to worry if

this city without having to worry if they have $2.90 or soon to be $3 in

they have $2.90 or soon to be $3 in their pocket, which is already out of

their pocket, which is already out of reach for one in five New Yorkers.

reach for one in five New Yorkers. >> We have here the author of congestion

>> We have here the author of congestion pricing and we have the apprentice of

pricing and we have the apprentice of congestion pricing. I'm the only

congestion pricing. I'm the only candidate who's opposed to congestion

candidate who's opposed to congestion pricing. It is alleged there are

pricing. It is alleged there are storefronts closing because they don't

storefronts closing because they don't have enough

have enough >> other move on otherwise we might have to

>> other move on otherwise we might have to place a call to 311 about candidates

place a call to 311 about candidates going over there a lot of time. Okay. So

going over there a lot of time. Okay. So we're going to move on there. Don't

we're going to move on there. Don't worry.

worry. >> We're going to move on to illegal

>> We're going to move on to illegal parking plaques in many neighborhoods.

parking plaques in many neighborhoods. Recently council member Lincoln Wrestler

Recently council member Lincoln Wrestler released a study that found 450 vehicles

released a study that found 450 vehicles parked illegally during the day in

parked illegally during the day in downtown Brooklyn. Many with fake or

downtown Brooklyn. Many with fake or government placards. That's just one

government placards. That's just one snapshot of the city, but you hear

snapshot of the city, but you hear similar complaints everywhere. So, how

similar complaints everywhere. So, how would you fix this specific situation?

would you fix this specific situation? You'll have 30 seconds. Mr. Lee will

You'll have 30 seconds. Mr. Lee will begin with you.

begin with you. >> Well, obviously placards have been

>> Well, obviously placards have been abused consistently. You have people who

abused consistently. You have people who have created fake placards. Not Not only

have created fake placards. Not Not only that, you have people with fake license

that, you have people with fake license plates, paper plates. There's all

plates, paper plates. There's all violations against the Department of

violations against the Department of Transportation rules and regulations of

Transportation rules and regulations of where you can park a vehicle. There's

where you can park a vehicle. There's just no enforcement. And that's because

just no enforcement. And that's because we don't have police. We have these

we don't have police. We have these ebikes going up and down. We have the

ebikes going up and down. We have the motorbikes. They're not following rules

motorbikes. They're not following rules and regulations. They should be

and regulations. They should be licensed. They should have a a a way of

licensed. They should have a a a way of being identified. This way enforcement

being identified. This way enforcement because people are terrified walking out

because people are terrified walking out into the street.

into the street. >> Mr. Mandani, your plan for illegal

>> Mr. Mandani, your plan for illegal parking. We have to showcase that

parking. We have to showcase that accountability is true whether for New

accountability is true whether for New Yorkers who are just living in this city

Yorkers who are just living in this city or those who are working for this city

or those who are working for this city and the violation of traffic laws are

and the violation of traffic laws are violations no matter who is doing it and

violations no matter who is doing it and to show that that accountability is

to show that that accountability is something my city government's actually

something my city government's actually going to pursue.

going to pursue. >> Okay, Mr. Cuomo.

>> Okay, Mr. Cuomo. >> Uh on the quality of life, you're right,

>> Uh on the quality of life, you're right, is very very important. Uh on the on the

is very very important. Uh on the on the placards, I would make it simple. I

placards, I would make it simple. I would recall all the city placards and

would recall all the city placards and reissue only those that are bonafidey

reissue only those that are bonafidey period on day one. Uh on the quality of

period on day one. Uh on the quality of life issues, the worst thing that could

life issues, the worst thing that could happen is if the assemblyman's proposal

happen is if the assemblyman's proposal for legalizing prostitution went

for legalizing prostitution went through. That would be terrible for the

through. That would be terrible for the quality of life. He also doesn't want to

quality of life. He also doesn't want to enforce misdemeanor. We're getting to

enforce misdemeanor. We're getting to that. That's assault, lararseny, etc.

that. That's assault, lararseny, etc. That would be time to address that.

That would be time to address that. >> I want to be very clear. Not only have I

>> I want to be very clear. Not only have I never called for the legalization of

never called for the legalization of prostitution, I'm not calling for that

prostitution, I'm not calling for that today either. And I also have never said

today either. And I also have never said anything about not enforcing

anything about not enforcing misdemeanor. This is just yet another

misdemeanor. This is just yet another figment of Andrew Cuomo's imagination.

figment of Andrew Cuomo's imagination. >> The DSA, which you give your part of

>> The DSA, which you give your part of your salary to, that's their position.

your salary to, that's their position. Abolish jails, no new carceral

Abolish jails, no new carceral facilities, don't enforce misdemeanors,

facilities, don't enforce misdemeanors, and you're on the bill in Albany as a

and you're on the bill in Albany as a sponsor to decriminalize prostitution.

sponsor to decriminalize prostitution. The difference between myself and Andrew

The difference between myself and Andrew Cuomo, of which there are many, is that

Cuomo, of which there are many, is that there is no one that is actually telling

there is no one that is actually telling me what to do other than the 8 and a

me what to do other than the 8 and a half million people who call this city

half million people who call this city home. You want my policies. You'll find

home. You want my policies. You'll find them on my website.

them on my website. >> Who told you to legalize prostitution?

>> Who told you to legalize prostitution? >> Okay, wait. We actually have you can't

>> Okay, wait. We actually have you can't escape this. You signed the law doing

escape this. You signed the law doing away with loitering for prostitution.

away with loitering for prostitution. That was the law put forward by just

That was the law put forward by just gentlemen started the prostitution.

gentlemen started the prostitution. Mr. Mr. Heights and flushing.

Mr. Mr. Heights and flushing. >> Mr. We have and you want to add to it

>> Mr. We have and you want to add to it the quality of life.

the quality of life. >> Mr. When I talk over you, nobody's

>> Mr. When I talk over you, nobody's hearing you and we actually have a

hearing you and we actually have a question on that. So, we'll let Rosarina

question on that. So, we'll let Rosarina ask it.

ask it. >> And for this question, candidates, we

>> And for this question, candidates, we want to come to Queens where we know

want to come to Queens where we know that prostitution has been an ongoing

that prostitution has been an ongoing complaint. Mayor Adams force form a task

complaint. Mayor Adams force form a task force and order sweeps by the NYPD. But

force and order sweeps by the NYPD. But the situation continues, especially

the situation continues, especially around the very popular Rosebell Avenue.

around the very popular Rosebell Avenue. As mayor, Mr. Mandani, how would you

As mayor, Mr. Mandani, how would you handle this situation? You have 30

handle this situation? You have 30 seconds. I want to first be clear that I

seconds. I want to first be clear that I am not and nor have I ever called for

am not and nor have I ever called for the legalization of prostitution. And if

the legalization of prostitution. And if you are happy with what's happening on

you are happy with what's happening on Roosevelt Avenue, then you should vote

Roosevelt Avenue, then you should vote for Andrew Cuomo because his policy is

for Andrew Cuomo because his policy is to continue the exact same ones we've

to continue the exact same ones we've seen under Eric Adams. My policy is to

seen under Eric Adams. My policy is to actually take on sex trafficking, to

actually take on sex trafficking, to have a zero tolerance for violence

have a zero tolerance for violence against women, and to follow the advice

against women, and to follow the advice of district attorneys that we have here

of district attorneys that we have here in New York City. The current Manhattan

in New York City. The current Manhattan DA, the former Manhattan DA, the current

DA, the former Manhattan DA, the current Brooklyn DA, the former Manhattan DA

Brooklyn DA, the former Manhattan DA having said that prosecuting women for

having said that prosecuting women for prostitution is something that actually

prostitution is something that actually leads to less safety. And what we need

leads to less safety. And what we need to do is provide an economy.

to do is provide an economy. >> Danny, just a quick just a quick

>> Danny, just a quick just a quick clarification. So, no legalization. How

clarification. So, no legalization. How about um decriminalization?

about um decriminalization? >> I do not think that we should be

>> I do not think that we should be prosecuting women who are struggling,

prosecuting women who are struggling, who are currently being thrown in jail

who are currently being thrown in jail and then being offered job

and then being offered job opportunities. I think we should be

opportunities. I think we should be actually providing those kinds of

actually providing those kinds of opportunities at the first point of

opportunities at the first point of interaction.

interaction. >> Mr. Cuomo, yeah, your turn.

>> Mr. Cuomo, yeah, your turn. >> Uh he look, Bill Delasio, the

>> Uh he look, Bill Delasio, the assemblyman is a mini me BDB, okay? He's

assemblyman is a mini me BDB, okay? He's Bill Delasio light. Uh he proposed

Bill Delasio light. Uh he proposed legalizing prostitution. He didn't get

legalizing prostitution. He didn't get it and he just told the cops, "Don't

it and he just told the cops, "Don't arrest any more prostitutes." There is a

arrest any more prostitutes." There is a bill in Albany that he signed that says

bill in Albany that he signed that says the prostitution

the prostitution that a woman who is a prostitute that

that a woman who is a prostitute that would be decriminalized.

would be decriminalized. That is what the bill says. And that's

That is what the bill says. And that's what he said. If you listen very

what he said. If you listen very carefully, that would take Roosevelt

carefully, that would take Roosevelt Avenue and explode it because it would

Avenue and explode it because it would make it legal for prostitutes. Real

make it legal for prostitutes. Real quick, how would you handle this

quick, how would you handle this situation?

situation? >> You have to enforce the law. It's

>> You have to enforce the law. It's illegal. I went to Roosevelt Avenue. I

illegal. I went to Roosevelt Avenue. I talked to the store owners. I talked to

talked to the store owners. I talked to the neighbors. I walked down Roosevelt

the neighbors. I walked down Roosevelt Avenue with prostitutes there at 9:00 in

Avenue with prostitutes there at 9:00 in the morning.

the morning. >> Your turn, Mr. Sewa.

>> Your turn, Mr. Sewa. >> I've dealt with this uh back in the 80s

>> I've dealt with this uh back in the 80s and 90s in Hell's Kitchen in Chelsea

and 90s in Hell's Kitchen in Chelsea when they were overrun with open air

when they were overrun with open air prostitution and Time Square. You don't

prostitution and Time Square. You don't go after the women. The women are the

go after the women. The women are the victims here. You lock up the John's.

victims here. You lock up the John's. You shame the John's. You let everybody

You shame the John's. You let everybody know about the John's. The madams and

know about the John's. The madams and the pimps need to be prosecuted to the

the pimps need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And these

full extent of the law. And these absentee landlords who knowingly rent

absentee landlords who knowingly rent their rooms, their apartments out for

their rooms, their apartments out for the use of prostitution, the department

the use of prostitution, the department of building should come in, padlock the

of building should come in, padlock the building, seize the building cuz many of

building, seize the building cuz many of these landlords live in Delray, Florida.

these landlords live in Delray, Florida. They did back in the 80s and 90s when we

They did back in the 80s and 90s when we did it in Chelsea and Time Square and

did it in Chelsea and Time Square and Hell's Kitchen. And they're doing it

Hell's Kitchen. And they're doing it again. and civil enforcement. That's why

again. and civil enforcement. That's why the prosecution for Sally now.

the prosecution for Sally now. >> Thank you, David. We're going to talk a

>> Thank you, David. We're going to talk a bit about experience and beliefs. We've

bit about experience and beliefs. We've covered a lot of ground tonight, but we

covered a lot of ground tonight, but we want to probe a bit deeper into each of

want to probe a bit deeper into each of your mindsets and how you'll approach

your mindsets and how you'll approach governing as mayor. Mr. Cuomo, you have

governing as mayor. Mr. Cuomo, you have touted your experience on the campaign

touted your experience on the campaign trail time and again, but you pretty

trail time and again, but you pretty squarely lost the Democratic primary to

squarely lost the Democratic primary to Mr. Mandani, forcing you, a lifelong

Mr. Mandani, forcing you, a lifelong Democrat, to run as an independent. When

Democrat, to run as an independent. When you announced that decision, you said,

you announced that decision, you said, quote, "When you get knocked down, learn

quote, "When you get knocked down, learn the lesson and pick yourself back up."

the lesson and pick yourself back up." What lesson did you learn and what do

What lesson did you learn and what do you feel it said about you? Something

you feel it said about you? Something you did wrong, something that you need

you did wrong, something that you need to change about yourself?

to change about yourself? >> Yeah, I think uh in the primary

>> Yeah, I think uh in the primary campaign, I did not do enough on social

campaign, I did not do enough on social media, uh which is a very effective

media, uh which is a very effective medium now. Uh I think the assemblymen

medium now. Uh I think the assemblymen did do a better job on Tik Tok and

did do a better job on Tik Tok and social media than I did during the

social media than I did during the campaign. uh and that is uh changed now.

campaign. uh and that is uh changed now. Um I've also uh increased my activity

Um I've also uh increased my activity significantly. Uh but my my agenda is

significantly. Uh but my my agenda is exactly the same. I I am the Democrat

exactly the same. I I am the Democrat although I'm not on the Democratic line.

although I'm not on the Democratic line. Uh he is a Democratic socialist called

Uh he is a Democratic socialist called Barack Obama evil and a liar. Didn't

Barack Obama evil and a liar. Didn't vote for Kla Harris. Fight and deliver

vote for Kla Harris. Fight and deliver is I will fight for people. I will fight

is I will fight for people. I will fight the bureaucracy and I will deliver

the bureaucracy and I will deliver results. New Yorkers need the mayor to

results. New Yorkers need the mayor to get something done. This is all words

get something done. This is all words and theories. I am a manager who can

and theories. I am a manager who can actually question about self-reflection.

actually question about self-reflection. Is the thing you're reflecting on the

Is the thing you're reflecting on the most that you need to be on social media

most that you need to be on social media more? Was there any other deeper lesson

more? Was there any other deeper lesson >> between the two campaigns? Uh social

>> between the two campaigns? Uh social media uh more accessibility.

media uh more accessibility. >> Okay. I just have to say it's been an

>> Okay. I just have to say it's been an hour and 20 minutes of this debate and

hour and 20 minutes of this debate and we haven't heard Governor Cuomo say the

we haven't heard Governor Cuomo say the word affordability. That's why he lost

word affordability. That's why he lost the primary. That's why he'll lose the

the primary. That's why he'll lose the general election. And you can lie all

general election. And you can lie all you want, but the truth is I voted for

you want, but the truth is I voted for Kla Harris. I'm the only candidate on

Kla Harris. I'm the only candidate on this stage to have the endorsement of

this stage to have the endorsement of Kla Harris. And I'm not the one who's

Kla Harris. And I'm not the one who's funded by Bill Aman who called Kla

funded by Bill Aman who called Kla Harris unqualified to be the vice

Harris unqualified to be the vice president of this country.

president of this country. >> Okay. May I respond?

>> Okay. May I respond? >> Yes. Uh, there are a lot of New Yorkers

>> Yes. Uh, there are a lot of New Yorkers who s who who support me. Uh, and there

who s who who support me. Uh, and there are a lot of Jewish New Yorkers who

are a lot of Jewish New Yorkers who support me because they think you're

support me because they think you're anti-semitic. Uh, so it's not about

anti-semitic. Uh, so it's not about Trump or Republican. It's about you. Uh,

Trump or Republican. It's about you. Uh, you

you >> do you think he's anti-semitic, Mr. Co?

>> do you think he's anti-semitic, Mr. Co? >> I don't make those judgments about

>> I don't make those judgments about people. Are you a racist? Are you an

people. Are you a racist? Are you an anti-semite? I know there are many

anti-semite? I know there are many Jewish people who believe he is

Jewish people who believe he is anti-Semitic. I believe not condemning

anti-Semitic. I believe not condemning the globalized inif uh what he has said

the globalized inif uh what he has said about Hamas but I can see where they

about Hamas but I can see where they >> I covered sorry I don't mean to

>> I covered sorry I don't mean to interrupt I covered your speech in an

interrupt I covered your speech in an upper westside synagogue where you said

upper westside synagogue where you said anti-ionism is anti-semitism there is no

anti-ionism is anti-semitism there is no difference and you were talking about

difference and you were talking about Mr. Mandani is that not an allegation

Mr. Mandani is that not an allegation >> no I make that statement all the time I

>> no I make that statement all the time I wasn't referring to Mandami

wasn't referring to Mandami >> okay all right we Mr. brief response and

>> okay all right we Mr. brief response and then we have to move on. I have

then we have to move on. I have denounced Hamas again and again and it

denounced Hamas again and again and it will never be enough for Andrew Cuomo

will never be enough for Andrew Cuomo because what he is willing to say even

because what he is willing to say even though not on this stage is to call me

though not on this stage is to call me the first Muslim on the precipice of

the first Muslim on the precipice of leading this city a terrorist

leading this city a terrorist sympathizer is to send mailers that

sympathizer is to send mailers that artificially lengthen my beard is to say

artificially lengthen my beard is to say to New Yorkers that they should be okay

to New Yorkers that they should be okay what I will do I know Melissa has a

what I will do I know Melissa has a specific question

specific question >> Donnie we you are the Democratic nominee

>> Donnie we you are the Democratic nominee and you're also a member as we've been

and you're also a member as we've been discussing of a political organization

discussing of a political organization that may be less familiar to New

that may be less familiar to New Yorkers, the Democratic Socialists of

Yorkers, the Democratic Socialists of America, which believes in dismantling

America, which believes in dismantling capitalism. New York City is the global

capitalism. New York City is the global headquarters of the finance industry.

headquarters of the finance industry. So, how would you be the mayor of Wall

So, how would you be the mayor of Wall Street and the DSA? You have one minute.

Street and the DSA? You have one minute. >> I would be the mayor of this entire

>> I would be the mayor of this entire city. And that means ensuring that the

city. And that means ensuring that the wealth that we generate in this city is

wealth that we generate in this city is also wealth that every single New Yorker

also wealth that every single New Yorker can actually feel in their pockets.

can actually feel in their pockets. Because what we have today is a system

Because what we have today is a system that has generated the most wealth in

that has generated the most wealth in the wealthiest country in the history of

the wealthiest country in the history of the world where one in four of our

the world where one in four of our neighbors are living in poverty. That's

neighbors are living in poverty. That's unacceptable. We can't look at 500,000

unacceptable. We can't look at 500,000 kids hungry every single night as just

kids hungry every single night as just the cost of doing business in this city.

the cost of doing business in this city. That's something we have to actually

That's something we have to actually change. And I'm going to do that by

change. And I'm going to do that by fighting for my neighbors in Queens that

fighting for my neighbors in Queens that I've come to know who are not only the

I've come to know who are not only the ones who own teapotss and toy stores,

ones who own teapotss and toy stores, who own diners and dry cleaners, but

who own diners and dry cleaners, but also the ones who work there. because

also the ones who work there. because right now all of them are being pushed

right now all of them are being pushed out of this city by corporate greed, by

out of this city by corporate greed, by private equity, and by a politics that

private equity, and by a politics that refuses to fight for them. I will

refuses to fight for them. I will finally

finally >> just a quick follow up, Mr. Manni. A lot

>> just a quick follow up, Mr. Manni. A lot of Hispanic death socialism and are a

of Hispanic death socialism and are a little bit scared to hear your policies.

little bit scared to hear your policies. What would you tell them?

What would you tell them? >> Well, I would first say that I wouldn't

>> Well, I would first say that I wouldn't be here without the support of Latino

be here without the support of Latino New Yorkers because it was the majority

New Yorkers because it was the majority of their support that helped to make me

of their support that helped to make me the Democratic nominee. And what

the Democratic nominee. And what democratic socialism means is a belief

democratic socialism means is a belief in the dignity of each and every New

in the dignity of each and every New Yorker and the responsibility city

Yorker and the responsibility city government has to deliver that dignity.

government has to deliver that dignity. That's why I'm speaking about child care

That's why I'm speaking about child care because it's pricing out New Yorkers

because it's pricing out New Yorkers from the city. It's why I'm speaking

from the city. It's why I'm speaking about freezing the rent because housing

about freezing the rent because housing isn't a human right in the way that we

isn't a human right in the way that we practice our politics in this city. And

practice our politics in this city. And that's why I'm talking about making

that's why I'm talking about making buses fast and free because one in five

buses fast and free because one in five New Yorkers are being priced out of

New Yorkers are being priced out of public transit today.

public transit today. >> Rosarina,

>> Rosarina, >> so Mr. ly want to would like to talk to

>> so Mr. ly want to would like to talk to you because you were here with us four

you because you were here with us four years ago in the same stage for the

years ago in the same stage for the general election debate and you you lost

general election debate and you you lost it. Why do you believe New York is ready

it. Why do you believe New York is ready to elect a Republican this time around?

to elect a Republican this time around? >> First off, uh did I not warn you four

>> First off, uh did I not warn you four years ago that Eric Adams would be

years ago that Eric Adams would be corrupt and we would have chaos? Did I

corrupt and we would have chaos? Did I not? Of course I did. And I get praised

not? Of course I did. And I get praised for that. Now I'm trying to get people

for that. Now I'm trying to get people to vote for me. Not just on the

to vote for me. Not just on the Republican line, but also my wife Nancy,

Republican line, but also my wife Nancy, who is the best thing that has ever

who is the best thing that has ever happened to me, created the first ever

happened to me, created the first ever independent protect animals line, which

independent protect animals line, which calls for no kill shelters and putting

calls for no kill shelters and putting animal abusers in jail. But the other

animal abusers in jail. But the other thing that differentiates me from both

thing that differentiates me from both of my adversaries, is that I am opposed

of my adversaries, is that I am opposed to the city of Yes, which will destroy

to the city of Yes, which will destroy the residential neighborhoods. Both of

the residential neighborhoods. Both of them are for the city of Yes. So when

them are for the city of Yes. So when you vote for me, whether on the

you vote for me, whether on the Republican line or the protect animals

Republican line or the protect animals line, turn your ballot over and vote no

line, turn your ballot over and vote no on all those initiative and referendums.

on all those initiative and referendums. Imagine they've said, "How can you court

Imagine they've said, "How can you court a Republican work with a Democratic

a Republican work with a Democratic majority in the council?" Adrien Adams

majority in the council?" Adrien Adams is in agreement with me. The Democratic

is in agreement with me. The Democratic city council people are in agreement

city council people are in agreement with me. No to the city of yes which

with me. No to the city of yes which will take your homes and provide you

will take your homes and provide you instead with lithium ion battery

instead with lithium ion battery warehouses your house which are like

warehouses your house which are like mini chernobyl I'm the only candidate

mini chernobyl I'm the only candidate who is opposed to the city of yes

who is opposed to the city of yes >> thank you

>> thank you >> I have a quick follow to that Mr.

>> I have a quick follow to that Mr. How do you bring down costs if you don't

How do you bring down costs if you don't build more housing?

build more housing? >> Oh, it's very simple to build housing.

>> Oh, it's very simple to build housing. You just look in New York City. Uh we

You just look in New York City. Uh we have so many dense areas where you no

have so many dense areas where you no longer can use the commercial space. Uh

longer can use the commercial space. Uh that used to be office space and you

that used to be office space and you just convert it into residential

just convert it into residential housing. You don't need to go into the

housing. You don't need to go into the outer. You don't need to use wetlands

outer. You don't need to use wetlands and park lands which they seek to do. If

and park lands which they seek to do. If you build a new a new building, it takes

you build a new a new building, it takes 5 years. If you convert in

5 years. If you convert in >> All right, Mr. Flewood, thank you. We

>> All right, Mr. Flewood, thank you. We want to change the pace in a year.

want to change the pace in a year. >> Want to change the pace and just get a

>> Want to change the pace and just get a sense of what you think about political

sense of what you think about political leadership. We're curious about who you

leadership. We're curious about who you admire. Who is the best modern-day US

admire. Who is the best modern-day US president, Mr. Cuomo?

president, Mr. Cuomo? >> Um,

>> Um, modern day. Well, I'm partial. I was

modern day. Well, I'm partial. I was Bill Clinton's housing and urban

Bill Clinton's housing and urban development secretary. We built

development secretary. We built affordable housing all across the United

affordable housing all across the United States. Uh, Empowerment zones. I would

States. Uh, Empowerment zones. I would say Bill Clinton.

say Bill Clinton. >> Okay. Mr. Mandani.

>> Okay. Mr. Mandani. >> I would say FDR.

>> I would say FDR. >> Mr. SWA.

>> Mr. SWA. >> He's modern day.

>> He's modern day. >> Modern

>> Modern >> man. I'd say FDR also. But if that's

>> man. I'd say FDR also. But if that's modern day,

modern day, >> Mr. SWA,

>> Mr. SWA, >> a man that ended up being loved by

>> a man that ended up being loved by Democrats and Republicans alike. The

Democrats and Republicans alike. The greatest governor we've ever had in my

greatest governor we've ever had in my lifetime. George Pataki. Three terms, no

lifetime. George Pataki. Three terms, no chaos, no corruption. I was he actually

chaos, no corruption. I was he actually beat president. the better president

beat president. the better president this governor and this US president

this governor and this US president who's the who you thought are the best

who's the who you thought are the best moderator

moderator >> best president in our lifetime

>> best president in our lifetime >> I would say the best president in our

>> I would say the best president in our lifetime that I've experienced uh I

lifetime that I've experienced uh I would go back to Ronald Reagan

would go back to Ronald Reagan >> okay how about the best New York City

>> okay how about the best New York City mayor Mr.

Best New York City mayor, Mr. >> uh Rudy Giuliani, who endorsed me last

>> uh Rudy Giuliani, who endorsed me last week. Okay.

week. Okay. >> And I'd have a little bit of Michael

>> And I'd have a little bit of Michael Bloomberg thrown in because he liked

Bloomberg thrown in because he liked responsibility.

responsibility. >> I think the best New York City mayor of

>> I think the best New York City mayor of all time is Furel LaGuardia.

all time is Furel LaGuardia. >> Mr. Cuomo,

>> Mr. Cuomo, >> it was Bill Delasio last debate.

>> it was Bill Delasio last debate. >> No, I've always said Furella is the best

>> No, I've always said Furella is the best mayor of all time.

mayor of all time. >> Who's yours, Mr. Cuomo?

>> Who's yours, Mr. Cuomo? >> Uh, is it of all time or modern time?

>> Uh, is it of all time or modern time? >> Best New York City mayor in Europe. of

>> Best New York City mayor in Europe. of all time it is Fiorella Laguadia.

all time it is Fiorella Laguadia. >> We agree.

>> We agree. >> Uh recently I would say uh Mayor Dinkens

>> Uh recently I would say uh Mayor Dinkens and Mayor Bloomberg.

and Mayor Bloomberg. >> Okay. How about the political leader

>> Okay. How about the political leader dead or alive you most admire? Mr.

dead or alive you most admire? Mr. Maldani.

Maldani. >> I would say I admire Bernie Sanders.

>> I would say I admire Bernie Sanders. >> Mr. Cuomo

>> Mr. Cuomo >> my father.

>> my father. >> Mr. Sa.

>> Mr. Sa. >> I said it already. George Pataki who was

>> I said it already. George Pataki who was loved by Democrats and Republicans and

loved by Democrats and Republicans and the greatest mayor uh in our lifetime.

the greatest mayor uh in our lifetime. All right, great governor.

All right, great governor. >> I just have one more before Sally starts

>> I just have one more before Sally starts to ask you about schools. A show of

to ask you about schools. A show of hands. Who supports Kathy Hokll for

hands. Who supports Kathy Hokll for re-election?

re-election? >> It's a decision that should be made

>> It's a decision that should be made after this general election.

after this general election. >> So, no decision. Mr. Cuomo, you

>> So, no decision. Mr. Cuomo, you handpicked her as your lieutenant

handpicked her as your lieutenant governor. No,

governor. No, >> you have to know uh who's running.

>> you have to know uh who's running. >> Yeah. Okay. So,

>> Yeah. Okay. So, >> and I would add that I do think that

>> and I would add that I do think that Kathy Hokll, our governor, has been

Kathy Hokll, our governor, has been doing a good job in not only for

doing a good job in not only for re-election,

re-election, >> not only delivering for New Yorkers, but

>> not only delivering for New Yorkers, but also standing up to Donald Trump.

also standing up to Donald Trump. >> Just what do you support her for

>> Just what do you support her for re-election? endorse her.

re-election? endorse her. >> I'm focusing on November. I appreciate

>> I'm focusing on November. I appreciate her support and I appreciate her work,

her support and I appreciate her work, but you don't endorse her. Shout out for

but you don't endorse her. Shout out for Lee Stefonic to take out Kathy Hok. You

Lee Stefonic to take out Kathy Hok. You have a Republican mayor Curtis, a

have a Republican mayor Curtis, a Republican governor like Giuliani.

Republican governor like Giuliani. Save this city.

Save this city. >> We want to talk about schools, Sally.

>> We want to talk about schools, Sally. >> Okay. Thank you, David. Let's turn to

>> Okay. Thank you, David. Let's turn to education. There are a number of issues

education. There are a number of issues facing public schools. One that's been

facing public schools. One that's been controversial in the campaign is the

controversial in the campaign is the gifted and talented program which offers

gifted and talented program which offers accelerated instruction to elementary

accelerated instruction to elementary school children. Mr. Mum Donnie, you

school children. Mr. Mum Donnie, you have said that you want to phase out the

have said that you want to phase out the gifted and talented program while Mr.

gifted and talented program while Mr. Cuomo and Mr. Slewa want to expand it.

Cuomo and Mr. Slewa want to expand it. Mr. SWA, we will start with you. What is

Mr. SWA, we will start with you. What is your plan for the program? You have one

your plan for the program? You have one minute.

minute. >> Uh, gifted and talented.

>> Uh, gifted and talented. >> Yes, Gifted and Talented.

>> Yes, Gifted and Talented. >> I have two younger sons with Melinda

>> I have two younger sons with Melinda Katz, the Queen's DA. They both

Katz, the Queen's DA. They both attempted to get into gifted and

attempted to get into gifted and talented as four-year-old. They failed.

talented as four-year-old. They failed. Uh it did not uh present a problem with

Uh it did not uh present a problem with their future education. We don't have

their future education. We don't have enough slots right now. They're 1,900.

enough slots right now. They're 1,900. We need to have at least 5,000 slots

We need to have at least 5,000 slots around the city. What they have not done

around the city. What they have not done at the Department of Education is make

at the Department of Education is make these tests available in black and

these tests available in black and Hispanic communities. So for instance,

Hispanic communities. So for instance, you have 77,000 children who are 4 years

you have 77,000 children who are 4 years old. Only 10,000 have taken the test.

old. Only 10,000 have taken the test. Only 2,000 are accepted. Why not offer

Only 2,000 are accepted. Why not offer the test to all 77,000? And even if a

the test to all 77,000? And even if a gifted and talented class only has three

gifted and talented class only has three or four in a minority school, give these

or four in a minority school, give these children an opportunity to excel, too.

children an opportunity to excel, too. That would make it fair for everybody.

That would make it fair for everybody. >> Mr. Thank you. Mr. Cuomo, how does your

>> Mr. Thank you. Mr. Cuomo, how does your plan differ from Mr. SL? You also have

plan differ from Mr. SL? You also have one minute.

one minute. >> Uh, first I support mayoral control. I

>> Uh, first I support mayoral control. I think it would be a terrible mistake to

think it would be a terrible mistake to roll back mayoral control. That's

roll back mayoral control. That's probably been the most dramatic

probably been the most dramatic educational reform in 40 years. We'd go

educational reform in 40 years. We'd go back to the old system that had local

back to the old system that had local school boards which were corrupt,

school boards which were corrupt, patronage mills, etc. So, who runs the

patronage mills, etc. So, who runs the system is number one. I would expand

system is number one. I would expand gifted and talented programs. Uh,

gifted and talented programs. Uh, accessibility. I'd offer preparatory

accessibility. I'd offer preparatory courses to any student parent that

courses to any student parent that wanted to take them. I'd double the

wanted to take them. I'd double the number of specialized high schools from

number of specialized high schools from 9 to 18 and I would keep the SHSAT

9 to 18 and I would keep the SHSAT uh uh as it is.

uh uh as it is. >> Thank you. And Mr.

>> Thank you. And Mr. >> Can I add one thing?

>> Can I add one thing? >> Uh there's been no discussion about

>> Uh there's been no discussion about vocational high schools which so many

vocational high schools which so many young men and women. We need we need to

young men and women. We need we need to expand vocational training for those who

expand vocational training for those who are not achieved here with Mr. Tom

are not achieved here with Mr. Tom Donnie, why should the gifted and

Donnie, why should the gifted and talented program be phased out in your

talented program be phased out in your opinion? You have a minute to answer.

opinion? You have a minute to answer. >> So, I want to be very clear. I have

>> So, I want to be very clear. I have spoken solely of gifted and talented for

spoken solely of gifted and talented for kindergarteners. I do not believe that

kindergarteners. I do not believe that kindergarteners should be subject to a

kindergarteners should be subject to a singular assessment. I have not spoken

singular assessment. I have not spoken of any gifted and talented programs

of any gifted and talented programs older than for kindergarten. I'm solely

older than for kindergarten. I'm solely speaking about kindergarten. And I

speaking about kindergarten. And I believe that we should be delivering the

believe that we should be delivering the best education across the country here

best education across the country here in this city. We will do that by

in this city. We will do that by following through in the proposals I put

following through in the proposals I put forward to hire a thousand more teachers

forward to hire a thousand more teachers every single year through our community

every single year through our community toclassroom program. one that will

toclassroom program. one that will ensure that we're providing each

ensure that we're providing each student, whether they be in high school

student, whether they be in high school or someone who is an adult looking to

or someone who is an adult looking to become a teacher, with $12,000 in

become a teacher, with $12,000 in tuition subsidies so that they can start

tuition subsidies so that they can start to fulfill the 7 to 9,000 additional

to fulfill the 7 to 9,000 additional teachers we need so that we can actually

teachers we need so that we can actually deliver on the class size reduction act,

deliver on the class size reduction act, which I was proud to pass in Albany that

which I was proud to pass in Albany that will ensure that children and teachers

will ensure that children and teachers actually have a manageable ratio in that

actually have a manageable ratio in that classroom so that they can learn because

classroom so that they can learn because today that learning is being rendered

today that learning is being rendered impossible by the number of kids in that

impossible by the number of kids in that same classroom. and it's time to make

same classroom. and it's time to make sure that that number is lower.

sure that that number is lower. >> But you don't believe the mayor should

>> But you don't believe the mayor should run this this system.

run this this system. >> I've been critical of mayoral control

>> I've been critical of mayoral control because of the ways in which it's been

because of the ways in which it's been used to take away the voice of parents,

used to take away the voice of parents, of educators, of students. I think it's

of educators, of students. I think it's important that those same voices be a

important that those same voices be a part of how we lead the system.

part of how we lead the system. >> So, are you for or against mayoral

>> So, are you for or against mayoral control?

control? >> I've been critical of it. I'm against

>> I've been critical of it. I'm against mayoral control and I think that there's

mayoral control and I think that there's an importance of developing something

an importance of developing something that actually enshrines all of those

that actually enshrines all of those voices together.

voices together. >> Mr. You also tried to curtail it when

>> Mr. You also tried to curtail it when Mayor Delasio was mayor.

Mayor Delasio was mayor. >> You go.

>> You go. >> Did you hear what she said?

>> Did you hear what she said? >> No.

>> No. >> I was saying you you proposed a

>> I was saying you you proposed a curtailment of mayoral control when

curtailment of mayoral control when Mayor Delasio was mayor during

Mayor Delasio was mayor during >> there's been multiple modifications of

>> there's been multiple modifications of mayoral control.

mayoral control. >> Some some proposed curtailment at your

>> Some some proposed curtailment at your hand. So if you are such a champion of

hand. So if you are such a champion of it tonight.

it tonight. >> No, I never I never I never proposed

>> No, I never I never I never proposed reversing mayoral control.

reversing mayoral control. >> No. Shortening the duration of time he

>> No. Shortening the duration of time he would have control of schools.

would have control of schools. >> Yes. For renewal. The renewal. How much

>> Yes. For renewal. The renewal. How much control of schools, Mr. Mandani, how

control of schools, Mr. Mandani, how much control of schools would you be

much control of schools would you be giving up? Is it just a sharing

giving up? Is it just a sharing arrangement? I know you want to share

arrangement? I know you want to share with the districts and with parents, or

with the districts and with parents, or would you be giving up full control? And

would you be giving up full control? And is that an accountability problem if the

is that an accountability problem if the buck doesn't stop with you?

buck doesn't stop with you? >> I think the mayor needs to retain the

>> I think the mayor needs to retain the accountability so that New Yorkers know

accountability so that New Yorkers know exactly who they can come to when they

exactly who they can come to when they have critiques. And I think we also have

have critiques. And I think we also have to develop a system where we don't have

to develop a system where we don't have what we saw just recently where you have

what we saw just recently where you have hours and hours of parents and teachers

hours and hours of parents and teachers and students testifying only to be

and students testifying only to be overruled without any consideration by

overruled without any consideration by the panel. Thank you. Mr. I have

the panel. Thank you. Mr. I have control. Switching switching now. It's a

control. Switching switching now. It's a question for all three of you. Switching

question for all three of you. Switching to students with learning challenges.

to students with learning challenges. Parents of students with dyslexia, ADHD,

Parents of students with dyslexia, ADHD, and autism are very well aware of the

and autism are very well aware of the fact that the school system in New York

fact that the school system in New York City is not doing enough to meet their

City is not doing enough to meet their children's educational needs. How will

children's educational needs. How will you help these parents and students? We

you help these parents and students? We know that Mayor Adams has expanded

know that Mayor Adams has expanded evaluations specifically for children

evaluations specifically for children with dyslexia. It was an issue close to

with dyslexia. It was an issue close to his heart, but what would you do more

his heart, but what would you do more broadly, Mr. Mandani? You know, I think

broadly, Mr. Mandani? You know, I think some of the initiatives that Mayor Adams

some of the initiatives that Mayor Adams has launched, especially with this

has launched, especially with this chancellor, have been showing positive

chancellor, have been showing positive signs, especially for literacy and for

signs, especially for literacy and for preparedness, especially as it we're in

preparedness, especially as it we're in a national crisis on reading and

a national crisis on reading and mathematical comprehension. And I think

mathematical comprehension. And I think those are programs that should be

those are programs that should be furthered, should be invested in, all

furthered, should be invested in, all while also ensuring that we're giving

while also ensuring that we're giving teachers greater flexibility in the

teachers greater flexibility in the curriculum that they're actually

curriculum that they're actually teaching. Because what I've heard from

teaching. Because what I've heard from many of those teachers is that too often

many of those teachers is that too often the curriculum that's being procured in

the curriculum that's being procured in the10 billion dollars a year in DOE

the10 billion dollars a year in DOE contracts is one that has little

contracts is one that has little relation

relation >> Thank you, Mr. Mom. Donnie, Mr. Sely,

>> Thank you, Mr. Mom. Donnie, Mr. Sely, you have 30 seconds.

you have 30 seconds. >> Yeah. Uh we have $41,000 that we're

>> Yeah. Uh we have $41,000 that we're spending on each student. Now by fourth

spending on each student. Now by fourth grade, 2/3 of these children cannot

grade, 2/3 of these children cannot read, write, or do math at grade level.

read, write, or do math at grade level. That we should be ashamed of oursel for

That we should be ashamed of oursel for that. 100,000 less students than we had

that. 100,000 less students than we had last year. Onethird are truent. We have

last year. Onethird are truent. We have 200 schools with 200 students or less

200 schools with 200 students or less and Michael Mogul determines which

and Michael Mogul determines which schools stay open. Eric Adams is not

schools stay open. Eric Adams is not exhibiting mayoral control. The mayor

exhibiting mayoral control. The mayor should run the board of education, the

should run the board of education, the old board of education that is now the

old board of education that is now the department of education. The

department of education. The bureaucracy, you have 13 deputy

bureaucracy, you have 13 deputy chancellors. You have 50 department

chancellors. You have 50 department heads that suck up all the money. The

heads that suck up all the money. The teachers are still reaching into their

teachers are still reaching into their pockets to pay for badly needed supplies

pockets to pay for badly needed supplies for the children in the class. The money

for the children in the class. The money should be going to the teachers and the

should be going to the teachers and the children and young adults and it's not.

children and young adults and it's not. >> Mr. Cuomo, what is your specific plan to

>> Mr. Cuomo, what is your specific plan to deal with uh the challenges of students

deal with uh the challenges of students who have learning differences?

who have learning differences? >> We are losing young families when the

>> We are losing young families when the child becomes of school age. They leave

child becomes of school age. They leave the city. They go to the suburbs. They

the city. They go to the suburbs. They go to New Jersey. They're not going to

go to New Jersey. They're not going to sacrifice their child on what they think

sacrifice their child on what they think is a secondary education system. Uh the

is a secondary education system. Uh the core competency reading and math below

core competency reading and math below 50% is a disgrace. uh the gifted and

50% is a disgrace. uh the gifted and talented programs gives people hope. Uh

talented programs gives people hope. Uh I do believe Mayor Adams has made

I do believe Mayor Adams has made progress on the evaluations and services

progress on the evaluations and services for children who require special needs

for children who require special needs and assistance. Uh but obviously we have

and assistance. Uh but obviously we have to do more.

to do more. >> So we have another question about

>> So we have another question about improving schools and in the last year

improving schools and in the last year the schools enrolled more than 36,000

the schools enrolled more than 36,000 migrant students many learning English

migrant students many learning English for the first time from class size to

for the first time from class size to bilingual teachers. that puts a big

bilingual teachers. that puts a big strain in the system. Mr. Cuomo, what

strain in the system. Mr. Cuomo, what can you do to help migrant students, but

can you do to help migrant students, but also the staff? You have 30 seconds.

also the staff? You have 30 seconds. >> Well, first, uh, I think it was wrong of

>> Well, first, uh, I think it was wrong of the state to put so many migrants in New

the state to put so many migrants in New York City. New York City had the

York City. New York City had the overwhelming majority of migrants,

overwhelming majority of migrants, >> but they were already here,

>> but they were already here, >> close to about 80%. the state should

>> close to about 80%. the state should have uh put them all across the state,

have uh put them all across the state, Nassau, SUFFK, upstate uh so other

Nassau, SUFFK, upstate uh so other governments could have uh um also

governments could have uh um also >> well they were bust here from Texas and

>> well they were bust here from Texas and we have a situation.

we have a situation. >> But if they're bust from Texas, you

>> But if they're bust from Texas, you could have brought some to Nassau 20

could have brought some to Nassau 20 miles

miles >> here and we're asking for the current

>> here and we're asking for the current problem.

problem. >> Well, that's how the problem was

>> Well, that's how the problem was created. Okay, we understand

created. Okay, we understand >> the state put them here. The state gave

>> the state put them here. The state gave the city the bill. Uh it has now

the city the bill. Uh it has now increased the challenge in our education

increased the challenge in our education system. the state is going to have to

system. the state is going to have to help financially.

help financially. >> So you didn't answer the question. Mr.

>> So you didn't answer the question. Mr. Mandan is your chance.

Mandan is your chance. >> You know, when I spoke about our

>> You know, when I spoke about our community to classroom program, the

community to classroom program, the importance of it is not just bringing in

importance of it is not just bringing in a thousand more teachers every year.

a thousand more teachers every year. It's also that we would bring in a

It's also that we would bring in a number of more bilingual educators

number of more bilingual educators because what we've heard from a number

because what we've heard from a number of adults who have taught in other

of adults who have taught in other countries now live in New York City is

countries now live in New York City is the process by which they get their

the process by which they get their certification approved to teach here is

certification approved to teach here is one that is ownorous and one that is

one that is ownorous and one that is actually pricing many of them out.

actually pricing many of them out. That's why this is a program that will

That's why this is a program that will directly address that to increase that

directly address that to increase that bilingual capacity in our school system

bilingual capacity in our school system so that we can teach every single child

so that we can teach every single child no matter when they got here public

no matter when they got here public education.

education. >> Mr. Madani, this certification has been

>> Mr. Madani, this certification has been offered and it hasn't been successful.

offered and it hasn't been successful. So, how can you make more teachers to

So, how can you make more teachers to be, you know, like they want to do this?

be, you know, like they want to do this? >> Part of what I've heard is that the

>> Part of what I've heard is that the tuition costs as part of the same

tuition costs as part of the same certification exams are ownorous for

certification exams are ownorous for many of these adults looking to switch

many of these adults looking to switch careers. That's why this program is

careers. That's why this program is built upon providing $12,000 in tuition

built upon providing $12,000 in tuition assistance that would lead to a thousand

assistance that would lead to a thousand more teachers every year.

more teachers every year. >> And also salaries will be a good

>> And also salaries will be a good >> We have not just migrant children. We

>> We have not just migrant children. We have the children of the homeless over

have the children of the homeless over 120,000. We haven't yet discussed

120,000. We haven't yet discussed charter schools. Parochial schools that

charter schools. Parochial schools that are closing. Normally parochial schools

are closing. Normally parochial schools would have been able to take some of

would have been able to take some of these children. We need to expand the

these children. We need to expand the number of charter schools that are doing

number of charter schools that are doing an amazing job especially in the inner

an amazing job especially in the inner cities. And why not make that available

cities. And why not make that available to migrant children and to the homeless

to migrant children and to the homeless children who are coming from shelters

children who are coming from shelters all across the city who need the special

all across the city who need the special teaching skills that have lifted

teaching skills that have lifted children in the charter schools. We need

children in the charter schools. We need to give choice because that's our most

to give choice because that's our most precious resource our children.

precious resource our children. >> So allow to now move on into the

>> So allow to now move on into the >> I agree on the charter schools.

>> I agree on the charter schools. >> Thank you Mr. Ko. So allow me now to

>> Thank you Mr. Ko. So allow me now to enter into the sanctuary city situation

enter into the sanctuary city situation and let's talk about also undocumented

and let's talk about also undocumented immigrants. 26 federal plaza has become

immigrants. 26 federal plaza has become a flagship in federal immigration

a flagship in federal immigration crackdown. We reported that asylum

crackdown. We reported that asylum seekers are showing up for like those

seekers are showing up for like those routine appointments not facing any

routine appointments not facing any criminal challenges and they end up

criminal challenges and they end up being deported. So by the show of hands

being deported. So by the show of hands we would like to know if you believe

we would like to know if you believe that you any of you could do something

that you any of you could do something to stop this.

to stop this. >> Okay. So Mr. Cuomo you have a minute to

>> Okay. So Mr. Cuomo you have a minute to explain us what would you do? The law is

explain us what would you do? The law is the law and I would have an attorney

the law and I would have an attorney assigned to every person who is

assigned to every person who is undergoing any review by the federal

undergoing any review by the federal government or any legal proceeding uh

government or any legal proceeding uh and put the full weight of the city

and put the full weight of the city government behind it uh and make sure

government behind it uh and make sure they are legally protected.

they are legally protected. >> Mr. Lee, what was your plan?

>> Mr. Lee, what was your plan? >> Look, going after the criminals, that's

>> Look, going after the criminals, that's the job of uh immigration and

the job of uh immigration and naturalization service ICE. But when

naturalization service ICE. But when they have to perform under a quota,

they have to perform under a quota, because I speak to many of the men and

because I speak to many of the men and women who serve this country, it's

women who serve this country, it's putting too much pressure to go outside

putting too much pressure to go outside of courouses to go Home Depot shape ups

of courouses to go Home Depot shape ups or the backs of restaurants and

or the backs of restaurants and hospitality businesses which have hired

hospitality businesses which have hired these migrants and they are essential

these migrants and they are essential workers. Now, I can tell you I have

workers. Now, I can tell you I have three sons. None of them are going to do

three sons. None of them are going to do that work. Some Americans will, but most

that work. Some Americans will, but most won't. We need to protect the migrants

won't. We need to protect the migrants who are workers, who are essential

who are workers, who are essential workers. and use ICE to go after the

workers. and use ICE to go after the drug dealers, the gang bangers, the

drug dealers, the gang bangers, the sexual uh predators and those who are

sexual uh predators and those who are sex trafficking and involved in narco

sex trafficking and involved in narco terrorism.

terrorism. >> Mr. Ramani,

>> Mr. Ramani, >> you know, I would be proud to feed the

>> you know, I would be proud to feed the first immigrant mayor of this city in

first immigrant mayor of this city in generations. And it's at 26 Federal

generations. And it's at 26 Federal Plaza that I've seen what used to be

Plaza that I've seen what used to be moments when New Yorkers would be

moments when New Yorkers would be getting their citizenship turn into

getting their citizenship turn into moments of tragedy where judges are

moments of tragedy where judges are asking New Yorkers who are there for a

asking New Yorkers who are there for a routine immigration check-in whether

routine immigration check-in whether they're prepared to leave in the very

they're prepared to leave in the very same clothes that they arrive to that

same clothes that they arrive to that courthouse. I agree that we need more

courthouse. I agree that we need more legal representation. I also think we

legal representation. I also think we need to actually be able to stand up to

need to actually be able to stand up to Donald Trump because I heard from pastor

Donald Trump because I heard from pastor in East Flatbush, Pastor Galbreth, who

in East Flatbush, Pastor Galbreth, who told me how he accompanied a member of

told me how he accompanied a member of his congregation to 26 Federal Plaza. He

his congregation to 26 Federal Plaza. He sat there as a judge was determining her

sat there as a judge was determining her fate. They managed to convince the judge

fate. They managed to convince the judge to replace the deportation order with a

to replace the deportation order with a TPS order, but they knew that ICE would

TPS order, but they knew that ICE would not care about that change, and they had

not care about that change, and they had to sprint her out of the building,

to sprint her out of the building, smuggling her into the elevator in order

smuggling her into the elevator in order to get her back to Brooklyn. Thank you,

to get her back to Brooklyn. Thank you, >> candidates. Uh, I want to talk about New

>> candidates. Uh, I want to talk about New York City's economy, uh, and change the

York City's economy, uh, and change the pace a little bit. Everyone supports

pace a little bit. Everyone supports growing New York City's economy. The

growing New York City's economy. The mayor is our chief salesman to the

mayor is our chief salesman to the business world. So, we want to mix it

business world. So, we want to mix it up. Test your persuasive power. So,

up. Test your persuasive power. So, we're calling it an elevator pitch. And

we're calling it an elevator pitch. And we'll start with you, Mr. Rondani. In

we'll start with you, Mr. Rondani. In this scenario, imagine you're talking to

this scenario, imagine you're talking to the CEO of a big tech company deciding

the CEO of a big tech company deciding to move its headquarters to New York

to move its headquarters to New York City or to Dallas. The CEO is concerned.

City or to Dallas. The CEO is concerned. New York just raised its corporate taxes

New York just raised its corporate taxes and employees will pay more for

and employees will pay more for everything. Look into the camera and

everything. Look into the camera and make your pitch to that CEO to come here

make your pitch to that CEO to come here and not there. And do it in 30 seconds.

and not there. And do it in 30 seconds. New York City has something that Dallas

New York City has something that Dallas or no other city across this country

or no other city across this country could actually offer. And that is the

could actually offer. And that is the quality of life. That is the arts and

quality of life. That is the arts and the culture. That is the people that

the culture. That is the people that make the city so special. And I, as the

make the city so special. And I, as the mayor of this city, will deliver that

mayor of this city, will deliver that quality of life. We'll deliver the

quality of life. We'll deliver the safety that is the cornerstone of an

safety that is the cornerstone of an affordability agenda. and will ensure

affordability agenda. and will ensure that companies choose to come to this

that companies choose to come to this city and also choose to stay in this

city and also choose to stay in this city because so much of what drives the

city because so much of what drives the tech sector is a hunger for innovation,

tech sector is a hunger for innovation, a unrepenting desire to actually

a unrepenting desire to actually innovate and those are the very things

innovate and those are the very things that are going to characterize my city

that are going to characterize my city government in this.

government in this. >> But what do you say to CO about the

>> But what do you say to CO about the corporate taxes and also the the

corporate taxes and also the the staggering costs for the workers?

staggering costs for the workers? >> We are going to make this city more

>> We are going to make this city more affordable so that workers who want to

affordable so that workers who want to work at those companies can actually be

work at those companies can actually be able to do so. and we're going to ensure

able to do so. and we're going to ensure that this city continues to be one where

that this city continues to be one where we see businesses opening and also

we see businesses opening and also staying open.

staying open. >> All right, thank you. Salah

>> All right, thank you. Salah >> Mr. Cuomo, something of a reverse

>> Mr. Cuomo, something of a reverse scenario for you. The CEO of a similar

scenario for you. The CEO of a similar company with 1,000 good jobs tells you

company with 1,000 good jobs tells you she's very close to moving her

she's very close to moving her headquarters out of New York City. She

headquarters out of New York City. She cites everything from taxes to the

cites everything from taxes to the crushing cost of living for her

crushing cost of living for her employees in New York City. How do you

employees in New York City. How do you convince that CEO to stay? Please look

convince that CEO to stay? Please look into the camera and make your elevator

into the camera and make your elevator pitch. You have 30 seconds. We know that

pitch. You have 30 seconds. We know that uh the other companies

uh the other companies in New York City I'm sorry I'm sorry.

in New York City I'm sorry I'm sorry. >> Um

>> Um uh the question is to me in this camera.

uh the question is to me in this camera. >> Yes. The question is how you would

>> Yes. The question is how you would convince the CEO of a company with a

convince the CEO of a company with a thousand good jobs who's looking to move

thousand good jobs who's looking to move out of New York City because of the high

out of New York City because of the high cost of living for her employees and

cost of living for her employees and taxes. How you would convince her to

taxes. How you would convince her to stay in New York City?

stay in New York City? uh in 15 seconds.

uh in 15 seconds. >> 30.

>> 30. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> 30 seconds.

>> 30 seconds. >> Okay. I get it. I understand your

>> Okay. I get it. I understand your frustration. I understand that the far

frustration. I understand that the far left has been raising taxes and making

left has been raising taxes and making uh businesses feel like the enemy. Uh we

uh businesses feel like the enemy. Uh we get it. That's gone. Uh the DSA, the

get it. That's gone. Uh the DSA, the socialist orientation, we're not

socialist orientation, we're not socialists. It didn't work in Venezuela.

socialists. It didn't work in Venezuela. Didn't work in Cuba. Didn't work here.

Didn't work in Cuba. Didn't work here. We know that we have to work with

We know that we have to work with business. We want to be your partner. We

business. We want to be your partner. We want to have taxes that help us grow our

want to have taxes that help us grow our city but are competitive for you and we

city but are competitive for you and we want to partner to grow your business

want to partner to grow your business and our city together.

and our city together. >> Mr. Sa, let's talk about business

>> Mr. Sa, let's talk about business because let's assume the big tech

because let's assume the big tech company that we pitched to Mr. Mom Danny

company that we pitched to Mr. Mom Danny earlier has decided to move to New York

earlier has decided to move to New York and it's a a thousand good paying jobs

and it's a a thousand good paying jobs and the CEO wants to be based in a story

and the CEO wants to be based in a story Queens. But there's a loud push back of

Queens. But there's a loud push back of residents who don't want the noise and

residents who don't want the noise and the traffic. How can you convince the

the traffic. How can you convince the residents to accept the new neighbor?

residents to accept the new neighbor? You're speaking to a very powerful

You're speaking to a very powerful community. How can you convince them?

community. How can you convince them? >> But we saw that with Amazon. Amazon

>> But we saw that with Amazon. Amazon wanted to come in and AOC led the charge

wanted to come in and AOC led the charge and local elected officials to say no to

and local elected officials to say no to Amazon. That was a big mistake. I would

Amazon. That was a big mistake. I would say this, our companies are being

say this, our companies are being recruited away by the day. We have young

recruited away by the day. We have young people who are going to school here who

people who are going to school here who could fill their needs in these

could fill their needs in these high-tech industries who also are being

high-tech industries who also are being lured away. We need to cut their income

lured away. We need to cut their income taxes for 5 years. Tell them if you go

taxes for 5 years. Tell them if you go to school here, graduate here, no income

to school here, graduate here, no income taxes for 5 years, it's an income tax

taxes for 5 years, it's an income tax holiday. And the most important thing,

holiday. And the most important thing, we have to be able to assure the

we have to be able to assure the executive that this will be a city where

executive that this will be a city where we don't lock up toothpaste any longer,

we don't lock up toothpaste any longer, but lock up the criminals who make it

but lock up the criminals who make it intolerable to have a good quality of

intolerable to have a good quality of life. Thank you.

life. Thank you. >> We need to move on to a subject.

>> We need to move on to a subject. >> Democratic socialists of America that

>> Democratic socialists of America that stopped Amazon and cost us 25,000 jobs.

stopped Amazon and cost us 25,000 jobs. So,

So, >> thank you, Mr. Cuomo. We need to move on

>> thank you, Mr. Cuomo. We need to move on to a crisis that is very important to a

to a crisis that is very important to a lot of voters, and that is people

lot of voters, and that is people struggling with um mental health

struggling with um mental health problems. Roughly 500 times a day,

problems. Roughly 500 times a day, someone calls 911 about an emotionally

someone calls 911 about an emotionally disturbed person. And in a limited

disturbed person. And in a limited number of those cases, when the person

number of those cases, when the person is not believed to be violent, social

is not believed to be violent, social workers are dispatched instead of

workers are dispatched instead of police. Mr. Mandani, you want to do that

police. Mr. Mandani, you want to do that on a much larger scale. So, we want to

on a much larger scale. So, we want to know how will this work? When will you

know how will this work? When will you send police versus social workers? You

send police versus social workers? You have one minute.

have one minute. You know, we have a program here in New

You know, we have a program here in New York City called Be Heard that is

York City called Be Heard that is attempting to do this kind of work. But

attempting to do this kind of work. But we've had a mayor who has ensured that

we've had a mayor who has ensured that it's been unsuccessful to the extent

it's been unsuccessful to the extent that even when there was an assessment

that even when there was an assessment of about 60% of calls that could have

of about 60% of calls that could have been addressed by Be Herd instead of the

been addressed by Be Herd instead of the NYPD, Be Herd was not actually

NYPD, Be Herd was not actually responsive to it. And that's because we

responsive to it. And that's because we haven't had the political will to

haven't had the political will to deliver on what is a crisis that affects

deliver on what is a crisis that affects so many New Yorkers, which is the mental

so many New Yorkers, which is the mental health crisis. What my plan will do, an

health crisis. What my plan will do, an innovative plan of the Department of

innovative plan of the Department of Community Safety, will take what has

Community Safety, will take what has worked elsewhere in the country, a

worked elsewhere in the country, a program in Eugene, Oregon, where they

program in Eugene, Oregon, where they took 24,000 911 mental health calls out

took 24,000 911 mental health calls out of the police department. They were able

of the police department. They were able to respond to all but 311 without police

to respond to all but 311 without police assistance. When there is a concern for

assistance. When there is a concern for safety or of violence, absolutely, you

safety or of violence, absolutely, you would have the police there. But what we

would have the police there. But what we are doing today is actually ensuring

are doing today is actually ensuring that every single call is going to the

that every single call is going to the police and not allowing them to do the

police and not allowing them to do the work that they signed up to do.

work that they signed up to do. >> How will you determine whether there is

>> How will you determine whether there is a concern for safety or violence? What

a concern for safety or violence? What is the line between the calls in which

is the line between the calls in which police will be dispatched and the calls

police will be dispatched and the calls to which social workers will be

to which social workers will be dispatched?

dispatched? >> The line is also going to be one focused

>> The line is also going to be one focused on violence and the threat of violence.

on violence and the threat of violence. And I also trust the operators who will

And I also trust the operators who will be receiving those calls to make that

be receiving those calls to make that determination as they do every day today

determination as they do every day today for so many emergency services.

for so many emergency services. >> And just two really quick points,

>> And just two really quick points, please. Um there has been a lot of

please. Um there has been a lot of discussion that you would send social

discussion that you would send social workers to domestic violence calls which

workers to domestic violence calls which police are concerned about. So you're

police are concerned about. So you're saying no. Okay. And then the other

saying no. Okay. And then the other question is how can you be sure that a

question is how can you be sure that a situation that does not sound violent

situation that does not sound violent when someone calls 911 does not become

when someone calls 911 does not become violent in the moment? Would police be

violent in the moment? Would police be assigned as backup?

assigned as backup? >> I think what you do is you actually

>> I think what you do is you actually follow the experts that have shown us

follow the experts that have shown us this can work when you're willing to

this can work when you're willing to ensure that you're trusting the mental

ensure that you're trusting the mental health experts who have been doing this

health experts who have been doing this work elsewhere in the country where they

work elsewhere in the country where they call for the police when they need the

call for the police when they need the police, but their initial impulse when

police, but their initial impulse when there's no violence in that call is to

there's no violence in that call is to actually address the mental health at

actually address the mental health at the heart of it.

the heart of it. >> Okay. Mr. Sleewa, you have encountered

>> Okay. Mr. Sleewa, you have encountered plenty of these types of situations in

plenty of these types of situations in your decades of work with the Guardian

your decades of work with the Guardian Angels. So, do you see this approach

Angels. So, do you see this approach working? You're not a police officer,

working? You're not a police officer, but you've helped out in situations.

but you've helped out in situations. >> Lauron, boy, another fantasy that's not

>> Lauron, boy, another fantasy that's not real. Eugene, Oregon. Have you ever been

real. Eugene, Oregon. Have you ever been to Eugene? I've been to Eugene. Come on.

to Eugene? I've been to Eugene. Come on. This is New York City. We have so many

This is New York City. We have so many emotionally disturbed persons that are

emotionally disturbed persons that are in need of help. I will tell you this,

in need of help. I will tell you this, Andrew. You closed the mental health

Andrew. You closed the mental health beds that were taking care of them.

beds that were taking care of them. 40,000 when you came into office down to

40,000 when you came into office down to 4,000 because of your cuts which forced

4,000 because of your cuts which forced these people to live in the streets, in

these people to live in the streets, in the parks, and the subways. These people

the parks, and the subways. These people need to be removed. They need mental

need to be removed. They need mental health care. We need to make our

health care. We need to make our shelters safe. I've been in onethird of

shelters safe. I've been in onethird of the 300 shelters run by the Department

the 300 shelters run by the Department of Homeless Services. It's Darwinian in

of Homeless Services. It's Darwinian in there. Survival of the fittest. If we

there. Survival of the fittest. If we can make our shelter system safe, we can

can make our shelter system safe, we can get men and women who are homeless in

get men and women who are homeless in there, especially veterans who we're not

there, especially veterans who we're not giving any attention to, who we put out

giving any attention to, who we put out in Wards Island at 10:00 at night,

in Wards Island at 10:00 at night, released during the day, don't give any

released during the day, don't give any training, have them roam about, and

training, have them roam about, and obviously when you have nothing to do,

obviously when you have nothing to do, you end up getting into trouble. This is

you end up getting into trouble. This is a disastrous, homeless, and emotionally

a disastrous, homeless, and emotionally disturbed plan that we have in New York

disturbed plan that we have in New York City. And I'm the mayor that can change

City. And I'm the mayor that can change it cuz I deal with them every day in the

it cuz I deal with them every day in the streets, in the parks, in the subway.

streets, in the parks, in the subway. >> Okay, M. Mr. Cuomo, do you think that

>> Okay, M. Mr. Cuomo, do you think that the NYPD handles these calls for

the NYPD handles these calls for emotionally disturbed people in

emotionally disturbed people in distress? Well, is this is there room

distress? Well, is this is there room for something in the middle?

for something in the middle? >> Yeah, I think uh the assemblyman deals

>> Yeah, I think uh the assemblyman deals in theory. There's an advantage when you

in theory. There's an advantage when you actually have experience. I've run

actually have experience. I've run homeless programs. I ran the homeless

homeless programs. I ran the homeless programs for the federal government.

programs for the federal government. I've worked with cities all across the

I've worked with cities all across the nation. When you get a call on a

nation. When you get a call on a telephone about a mentally ill person

telephone about a mentally ill person who may be violent, uh it is a very

who may be violent, uh it is a very dangerous situation and I think you

dangerous situation and I think you should have a mental health worker

should have a mental health worker accompanied with a police officer

accompanied with a police officer because these can be explosive

because these can be explosive situations. I have been in situations

situations. I have been in situations that seemed apparently calm and fine and

that seemed apparently calm and fine and then erupted into violence very quickly

then erupted into violence very quickly and it got very dangerous very quickly.

and it got very dangerous very quickly. So I would have a social worker with a

So I would have a social worker with a police officer and get the people off

police officer and get the people off the streets. That's the humane thing and

the streets. That's the humane thing and get them the care they need. Uh not the

get them the care they need. Uh not the instit not institutionalize 40,000

instit not institutionalize 40,000 people again. We have supportive housing

people again. We have supportive housing now, which is what we use, and forensic

now, which is what we use, and forensic beds for people who need them.

beds for people who need them. >> Let me get this straight. Uh, a police

>> Let me get this straight. Uh, a police officer is there first. He has to wait

officer is there first. He has to wait for the arrival of a mental health.

for the arrival of a mental health. >> I would send them as a team.

>> I would send them as a team. >> As a team, but that's not how that's not

>> As a team, but that's not how that's not realistic. You're dealing with fantasy

realistic. You're dealing with fantasy also. The police officers are going to

also. The police officers are going to be the first one on the scene, and

be the first one on the scene, and they're always going to have to deal

they're always going to have to deal with it first and foremost. Mr. says

with it first and foremost. Mr. says that he has experience running homeless

that he has experience running homeless programs. What he has experience doing

programs. What he has experience doing is cutting funding for the very programs

is cutting funding for the very programs that prevented homelessness here in New

that prevented homelessness here in New York City. As the governor, he cut

York City. As the governor, he cut funding for the advantage program which

funding for the advantage program which was putting New Yorkers who had

was putting New Yorkers who had otherwise been in shelters, otherwise

otherwise been in shelters, otherwise been homeless into apartments. I met one

been homeless into apartments. I met one of those New Yorkers told me how that

of those New Yorkers told me how that pushed her out. Thank you. Brief

pushed her out. Thank you. Brief response.

response. >> You're talking about a program 14 years

>> You're talking about a program 14 years ago that was a pilot program that had a

ago that was a pilot program that had a work requirement. It was very

work requirement. It was very controversial. It was $65 million. Uh

controversial. It was $65 million. Uh >> you're talking about advantage just so

>> you're talking about advantage just so we know the advantage program 40 it was

we know the advantage program 40 it was 14 years ago 65 million I added billions

14 years ago 65 million I added billions to the homeless budget funded the

to the homeless budget funded the homeless budget larger than any governor

homeless budget larger than any governor in history.

in history. >> Okay he cut that he cut that program

>> Okay he cut that he cut that program homelessness skyrocket

homelessness skyrocket weed this 14 years ago. All right.

weed this 14 years ago. All right. >> It was during the Bloomberg

>> It was during the Bloomberg administration and Yes. Okay.

administration and Yes. Okay. >> Okay. I want to ask you about climate

>> Okay. I want to ask you about climate change. As New York City confronts the

change. As New York City confronts the impact of climate change, one issue

impact of climate change, one issue already on the desk of the next mayor is

already on the desk of the next mayor is local law 97. It's passed in 2019. The

local law 97. It's passed in 2019. The law requires large buildings to

law requires large buildings to gradually reduce greenhouse gas

gradually reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2030. That may require very

emissions by 2030. That may require very expensive upgrades to buildings, which

expensive upgrades to buildings, which some landlords and co-op owners say they

some landlords and co-op owners say they just simply can't afford. We're

just simply can't afford. We're wondering how each of you would enforce

wondering how each of you would enforce the law. You have 30 seconds, Mr. Cuomo.

the law. You have 30 seconds, Mr. Cuomo. Uh,

Uh, >> local law 97 I support. Uh, implementing

>> local law 97 I support. Uh, implementing the law is going to be the key because

the law is going to be the key because it has to be done in a way that isn't so

it has to be done in a way that isn't so disruptive to businesses and residences

disruptive to businesses and residences that they just give up and pay the fine

that they just give up and pay the fine and don't even try to comply, which is

and don't even try to comply, which is what is going to happen now. It will be

what is going to happen now. It will be cheaper for them to pay the fine than

cheaper for them to pay the fine than comply. And that obviously will

comply. And that obviously will accomplish nothing. So yes, I support

accomplish nothing. So yes, I support the law. Yes, uh we have to implement

the law. Yes, uh we have to implement it, but we have to implement it in a way

it, but we have to implement it in a way that is feasible.

that is feasible. >> Thank you, Mr. Clone. Mr. Leewell,

>> Thank you, Mr. Clone. Mr. Leewell, >> local 97 will destroy those people who

>> local 97 will destroy those people who have invested in co-ops and condos.

have invested in co-ops and condos. There's 100,000. It's forcing them to

There's 100,000. It's forcing them to electrify. Now, you Andrew Kuml took

electrify. Now, you Andrew Kuml took Indian Point offline. 25% of our

Indian Point offline. 25% of our electrical capacity with no replacement,

electrical capacity with no replacement, which has caused skyrocketing

which has caused skyrocketing electricity bills. And now we're going

electricity bills. And now we're going to force condo and co-op owners to

to force condo and co-op owners to electrify. Maintenance fees will go up

electrify. Maintenance fees will go up 30%. These people will be leaving their

30%. These people will be leaving their condos and co-ops. They need relief.

condos and co-ops. They need relief. When I'm mayor, I slow that process

When I'm mayor, I slow that process down. We need our co-op owners and condo

down. We need our co-op owners and condo owners to stay here in New York City.

owners to stay here in New York City. Indian Point.

Indian Point. >> Yeah. uh Indian Point was started before

>> Yeah. uh Indian Point was started before me. It was a very dangerous situation.

me. It was a very dangerous situation. We have nuclear facilities upstate and I

We have nuclear facilities upstate and I my proposal and what I did is run cables

my proposal and what I did is run cables from the nuclear facilities upstate to

from the nuclear facilities upstate to bring the power to downstate. Uh Indian

bring the power to downstate. Uh Indian Point was in it had 20 million people in

Point was in it had 20 million people in the kill zone.

the kill zone. >> Thank you, Mr. Cuomo. Mr. Mani, local

>> Thank you, Mr. Cuomo. Mr. Mani, local law 97. How would you enforce the law as

law 97. How would you enforce the law as mayor? I support the law and I would

mayor? I support the law and I would also make it easier for condo and co-op

also make it easier for condo and co-op owners to comply with the law because

owners to comply with the law because what I've heard from so many is that

what I've heard from so many is that it's cheaper to pay the fine than to

it's cheaper to pay the fine than to actually get into compliance. And I

actually get into compliance. And I think the city has a role here in

think the city has a role here in procurement at a large scale of so much

procurement at a large scale of so much of what is necessary in these

of what is necessary in these infrastructure investments. We've seen

infrastructure investments. We've seen it be done in the clean energy challenge

it be done in the clean energy challenge within NICHA. It's time to do it right

within NICHA. It's time to do it right here in New York City to assist those

here in New York City to assist those condo and co-op owners in meeting the

condo and co-op owners in meeting the standards we desperately need to hit.

standards we desperately need to hit. >> Okay, gentlemen. New York City loves its

>> Okay, gentlemen. New York City loves its parades and the mayor is often front and

parades and the mayor is often front and center. You have all said that you want

center. You have all said that you want to be mayor for all New Yorkers. So,

to be mayor for all New Yorkers. So, will you march in all the parades that

will you march in all the parades that mayors have traditionally marched in or

mayors have traditionally marched in or are there any that you would boycott?

are there any that you would boycott? Mr. SWA,

Mr. SWA, >> I think a mayor has a responsibility

>> I think a mayor has a responsibility whenever possible to march in parades to

whenever possible to march in parades to celebrate whatever that parade is uh

celebrate whatever that parade is uh performing as. I've been a grand marshal

performing as. I've been a grand marshal of the Palaski Day parade. I was proud

of the Palaski Day parade. I was proud to celebrate.

to celebrate. >> Are there any events you would boycott

>> Are there any events you would boycott though? I just need to move this along.

though? I just need to move this along. Excuse me.

Excuse me. >> Would you boycott any of the city's

>> Would you boycott any of the city's parades?

parades? >> No, I would not boycott any parades.

>> No, I would not boycott any parades. It's the mayor's responsibility to be

It's the mayor's responsibility to be available to all racial and religious

available to all racial and religious groups.

groups. >> No, I wouldn't unless they

>> No, I wouldn't unless they discriminated.

discriminated. >> Okay. Mr. Mdani,

>> Okay. Mr. Mdani, >> there are many parades that I would not

>> there are many parades that I would not be attending because I'd be focusing on

be attending because I'd be focusing on the work of leading this city.

the work of leading this city. >> Which parades? Which number?

>> Which parades? Which number? >> I've already missed a number of those

>> I've already missed a number of those parades because I've been trying to

parades because I've been trying to speak to as many audience as possible.

speak to as many audience as possible. Okay. I

Okay. I >> I don't have the list of all the parades

>> I don't have the list of all the parades I've missed.

I've missed. >> Wow, that's a lot. Should be going to

>> Wow, that's a lot. Should be going to all parades.

all parades. >> Let me ask you this. Are there any

>> Let me ask you this. Are there any parades that don't exist that you think

parades that don't exist that you think should?

should? >> Mr. Mdani, I

>> Mr. Mdani, I >> I haven't thought much about parades to

>> I haven't thought much about parades to be honest with you.

be honest with you. >> Mr. Cuomo,

>> Mr. Cuomo, >> I have not thought I I don't even know

>> I have not thought I I don't even know what parade doesn't exist. Frankly,

what parade doesn't exist. Frankly, >> could be for anything. Mr. Sela,

>> could be for anything. Mr. Sela, >> uh, every parade has the right to exist

>> uh, every parade has the right to exist in New York City. I would ask you, Mr.

in New York City. I would ask you, Mr. Come on, Donald. Would you protect the

Come on, Donald. Would you protect the Christopher Columbus statues that exist

Christopher Columbus statues that exist here in the city?

here in the city? >> I'm telling you, my focus is on

>> I'm telling you, my focus is on affordability. I'm not thinking about

affordability. I'm not thinking about >> No, you're not answering the question.

>> No, you're not answering the question. Thank you. You're not answering.

Thank you. You're not answering. >> You gave the finger to the Columbus Days

>> You gave the finger to the Columbus Days issues come up.

issues come up. >> That's what we call a disc.

>> That's what we call a disc. >> Listen, we're in the last couple minutes

>> Listen, we're in the last couple minutes and we thought some questions.

and we thought some questions. >> We thought we have some questions that

>> We thought we have some questions that maybe give a glimpse into your life,

maybe give a glimpse into your life, your personality away from the political

your personality away from the political podium. What's your go-to breakfast

podium. What's your go-to breakfast order at the bodega? Mr. SWA.

order at the bodega? Mr. SWA. >> Oh, eggs and cheese on a roll. No salt,

>> Oh, eggs and cheese on a roll. No salt, please.

please. >> Mr. Cuomo, same thing. No salt. Also,

>> Mr. Cuomo, same thing. No salt. Also, Mr. Mumdani.

Mr. Mumdani. >> Egg and cheese on a roll with jalapenos.

>> Egg and cheese on a roll with jalapenos. >> Yum.

>> Yum. >> Have you ever purchased anything in a

>> Have you ever purchased anything in a cannabis shop? And if so, what did you

cannabis shop? And if so, what did you buy? Mr. Mumdani?

buy? Mr. Mumdani? >> I have.

>> I have. I've purchased marijuana at a legal

I've purchased marijuana at a legal cannabis shop.

cannabis shop. >> Okay. Mr. Cuomo.

>> Okay. Mr. Cuomo. >> No. Mr. SWA. Uh, when I was shot five

>> No. Mr. SWA. Uh, when I was shot five times and I've had Crohn's disease, I

times and I've had Crohn's disease, I did use medical marijuana. Yes. Okay. In

did use medical marijuana. Yes. Okay. In a dream scenario, we know it's not

a dream scenario, we know it's not possible, but the Mets are playing game

possible, but the Mets are playing game seven of the World Series on the same

seven of the World Series on the same night as the Knicks are playing game

night as the Knicks are playing game seven of the NBA championship, and you

seven of the NBA championship, and you can only go to one. Which one will it

can only go to one. Which one will it be, Mr. Slew? Again, which baseball

be, Mr. Slew? Again, which baseball team? This is the Mets game seven.

team? This is the Mets game seven. Knicks game seven even.

Knicks game seven even. >> Uh, I'm not going to the Mets game. I'm

>> Uh, I'm not going to the Mets game. I'm a Yankee fan. True baseball fans either

a Yankee fan. True baseball fans either like one or the other. I'm going to the

like one or the other. I'm going to the Knicks game. That's my team, the Knicks.

Knicks game. That's my team, the Knicks. >> Mr. Cuomo,

>> Mr. Cuomo, >> I'm gonna go half and half. I can make

>> I'm gonna go half and half. I can make it back and forth.

it back and forth. >> All right, Mr. Robi,

>> All right, Mr. Robi, >> this is what New Yorkers are sick of.

>> this is what New Yorkers are sick of. Just pick a team. I'd be there for the

Just pick a team. I'd be there for the Knicks.

Knicks. >> Okay. Well, lot of ground covered. We'll

>> Okay. Well, lot of ground covered. We'll leave it on that light note. Thank you

leave it on that light note. Thank you candidates for a spirited debate. We

candidates for a spirited debate. We thank you as well. We hope you got a lot

thank you as well. We hope you got a lot out of it. New York City viewers, New

out of it. New York City viewers, New York City voters, the New York City

York City voters, the New York City Campaign Finance Board, we thank

Campaign Finance Board, we thank heartily and we urge you to check out

heartily and we urge you to check out their website, nycvotes.org.

their website, nycvotes.org. From all of us here, we certainly thank

From all of us here, we certainly thank you for watching and remember, go vote

you for watching and remember, go vote on Tuesday, November 4th. Have a good

on Tuesday, November 4th. Have a good night.

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US NYC Mayoral Debate FULL Video: Mamdani, Cuomo, Sliwa FACE OFF Over Trump, Hamas In 1st Debate