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This content differentiates the critical audio performance metrics for two-channel stereo listening versus home theater systems, explaining how factors like output, linearity, and directivity apply differently to each.
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do you consider yourself to be
a two-channel purist who prefers to
listen to music alone in the dark and
relish in the deep dark
dark
vast abyss of music that you have
collected over the years or do you
consider yourself a home theater
enthusiast somebody who loves action
popcorn lights and effects with friends
and family
or are you like me somebody who likes a
little bit of both
but maybe with less hair
well in an ideal world
there really would be no difference your
home theater speaker would
work just as well for two-channel
listening as it would the other way around
around but
but
in the real world that's just not the
way things go
the real problem begins when you try to
increase additional output which is
a need for most home theater enthusiasts now
now
certainly there are two channel audio
file types who
love louder systems and i'm one of them but
but
when you really try to break things down
and look at the
components that make
a hi-fi system
versus a home theater system this is
what i've come up with so
this is actually the second time i
created this video the first time it was a
a
total car wreck
and i decided to help me pace myself a
little bit more and maybe to keep things
from being a little bit too disjointed
i would create a powerpoint slide yeah i
know it's like it's like work right
nobody wants to look at powerpoint
slides but
i promise you we'll all benefit from me
having done this before we split her off
and actually start stepping through the slide
slide
let's take a swing over to my home
theater room where i'm going to give you a
a
brief as brief as i can an overview of the
the
metrics that i'm going to be talking
about in this discussion
personally speaking
i can read stuff all day and it really
just doesn't sink in until i'm able to
see it or visualize it or you know get
hands-on with it so that's what i'm
going to do real fast i'm going to kind
of make this a quick intro but
i do encourage you to watch my previous
series of videos about understanding the
measurements and i'll put it up in the
card and i'll try to make sure i'll link
it in the description down below
so what we're going to start off with is
i've got a pair of stereo speakers right now
now
now i'm going to move this speaker over
here in the center so it makes a little
bit easier to understand what i'm
talking about
normally when you have your your setup
you have first of all the on axis
response and that is the direct sound so
again let's imagine that you are sitting
right here in the primary listening
position you've got your speaker aimed
toward you now i've got this one flipped
upside down those of you who are
wondering this is the tweeter right here
and i wanted my ear to be at the tweeter
axis because
otherwise you get a droop in the
mid-range response
so my ear will be aligned with the mid
or with the tweeter axis
and that is the on axis sound it's just
the first sound coming right toward you
it doesn't go anywhere else that is
direct sound then the next step you have
is what is called the listening window
that involves the on axis sound
and then plus or minus 30 degrees off to
the side of the speaker so not quite all
of the speaker not all the radiation
from the speaker but a smaller window of
about plus or minus 30 degrees onto the
side then you have a smaller vertical
window like this
gatormouth that's about plus or minus 10
degrees so a little bit up and a little
bit down but not much and the reason you
have a listening window is that supposed
to be more i guess indicative of how
most people are probably going to hear
the sound because getting dead on axis
with a speaker is tough to do especially
when it's a large speaker and maybe you
can't get your ear at the exact right
height or trying to tow it in is a
little bit tough for for any number of
reasons so that's why we have the
listening window response
then next up is the early reflections
response and this is where things are really
really
crucial to understand
early reflections is
is basically
basically
the front portion of the speaker so the
frontal hemisphere the sound coming out
of the front of the speaker
all around
to the horizontal side so
zero degrees to 90 degrees this way zero
degrees to 90 degrees this way so the
horizontal sound that comes out hits
this wall over here
bounces off and comes over here
those are called your first reflections
because they are the first ones to hit a
wall or hit a surface and then come back
to you in the city position
vertically you do have a smaller window
it's a little bit larger than the
listening window but it's still a little
bit smaller than the entire frontal
hemisphere i don't remember the exact
numbers now but it's a small portion
going up toward the ceiling and a small
portion going down toward the floor and
then you get a reflection off the
ceiling that's called your ceiling
bounce you get a reflection off the
floor that's called your floor bounce
now ideally you want all of those
reflections to sound the same or as
close to the same as that initial on
axis direct sound same thing for your
listening window you want all of those
responses that are coming at you first
and you want the reflected sounds that
are bouncing off the walls and coming at
you you want those to sound the same
because if they don't then you can
imagine that you would have a
coloration of the sound so let's say for example
example
you have good mid-range quality coming
out of the front of the speaker but you
have bad mid-range quality going to the
sides and then it's reflected back to
you and that is what we talk about when
we talk about directivity the early
reflections directivity index is just
it's a difference of the listening
window response so that smaller little
window of response up and down and side
to side versus the broader side assad
and the broader up and down response so
you take those two you take the
difference and any difference there
really ideally if it were a completely
omnidirectional speaker spreading sound
throughout the room in the exact same
way throughout then you would just break
even that'd be a zero right
but ideally what we're looking for in
the early reflections is a smooth
line right and any deviation you have
from that line indicates a deviation in
response between the listening window
and the early reflections response i
will also note that the early
reflections does include a wall bounce
behind the speaker but you can pretty
much consider the front of the speaker
the main portion and the main
contributor to the early reflections now
the early reflections
is considered the
the
most important
metric in sound quality accuracy
and it's important because as i
mentioned a minute ago when you have the
reflected sound if it sounds different
from what you're hearing as your direct
sound then that's going to change the
tonality or the timbre
the overall sound signature of what
you're hearing that can also play a role
on the imaging as well so you could have
smearing and things like that of
instruments and the sound stage so for
example if you're listening to a track
with a saxophonist right here well he
may not sound exactly right here he
could wander a bit from side to side and
that is also
due to in part
uh of the early reflections response
versus the on axis response so again
ideally what you're wanting is you want
the early reflections to mimic as
closely as it possibly can the on axis
response and there is
a discussion that we can have at a later
time about
how much do you want it to mimic
that gets into the discussion of the
directivity index value how flat the
directivity index is going across the
x-axis or how upright it is going across
the x-axis now the more flat it is the
more omni-directional a speaker is that
means that it's playing a point source
360 degrees around it
but the
more linear it is or the more sloped it
is that means that as you go higher in
frequency it's becoming more and more
directional so you can start off at the
low frequencies typically with the
omnidirectional sound that is spread
throughout the room so let's say about
400 hertz or so
everywhere in the room is pretty much
affected the same but as you begin to go
higher in frequency you start to narrow
up that radiation pattern and the higher
frequencies become more directional and
there is less energy sent to the side
walls and the rear walls and the floor
and the ceiling but again we're going to
save that for a different topic at
another later date because that that's
going to get this one too far off track
but anyway i hope that little bit of a
crash course helps give you a better
understanding of what i mean when i say
on axis listening window and early
reflections and directivity index
because these things are crucial to
understand as we get into this next
portion of the conversation okay so now
we are back and we are going to flip
through some slides and i'm going to
talk about some of these metrics that we
just discussed now we're going to talk
about them and show you why they're
applicable to you either in the home fi
realm or the home theater realm now the
first set of slides that i have up right
now is going to be dedicated to the two channel
channel
purists and this is what i deem as
requirements for a two-channel purist
you want linear on-axis response and you
want a good smooth linear listening
window response
base extension ideally you know it would
be 20 hertz to 20 kilohertz but most
people that i find based off of doing
these reviews and all the information
that i get back
they tend to be happy with 40 to 50 hertz
hertz
f3 anechoic response so in other words
it doesn't have to play all the way down
to the subwoofer levels
it can play down into the 40 or 50 hertz
region anechoic because when you put
that into a room you get a little bit of
room gain a little bit of boundary gain
and that helps bring up that low end a
little bit more also combined with
there's i won't say there's not a lot
but it's
more common to find music that
has bass rolled off below 40-50 hertz so
there's not as much content in that
lower region for the majority of genres
and certainly there are exceptions but
again we're speaking in generalities
smooth early reflections directivity
index as i said before if you don't have
this then you will have some timbre
mismatching going on between what you
hear coming directly at you versus what
is reflected off the sidewalls now
directivity really matters when you
start talking about multiple drive units
let's say for example you have a speaker
with a tweeter and a mid-range
probably going to be okay in terms of
horizontal directivity probably going to
be a little bit off in vertical
directivity if you've got the tweeter up
here in the mid-range down here
if you have a speaker that has multiple
mid-ranges or multiple mid-bass drivers
well the further those drivers are
spread apart this way or that way
is going to dictate
the radiation pattern that speaker and
it's probably going to have a
directivity index that suffers output is
not as important in the
two-channel listening realm as it is in
the home theater and i say that because
most people based on again anecdotal
information that i get back from
listeners and people who watch my videos
and read my reviews they tend to tell me that
that
when i mention that i listen to 85 to 95
db or something you know on the lower
end they'll say well that's too loud i'm
usually between 70 to 80
75 to 85 65 to 75. so
boiling that down generally speaking i
find that
audiophile types generally again
don't listen to music as loud as home
theater types tend to listen to their
playback systems now requirements for
the home theater enthusiasts
higher output now this is again
generality but i find that most home
theater enthusiasts are listening
between the 75 to 85 decibel region and
these are
average output this isn't including
transient dynamic peaks this is just
average listening levels and that is
typically at a little bit of a further
seated distance than the two channel
enthusiasts with higher output you need
low compression and low distortion just
like 2 channel you want smooth early
reflection directivity index but in this
case you want it for its eq ability now
this is where i find that the biggest
difference is probably acceptable
in home theater versus two channel and
that is
non-linearity in the on-axis and the
listening window response the reason i
say that that's not as crucial is
because most home theater people by and
large are using equalization matter of
fact i recently did a poll i found that
about 80 percent of my viewership you use
use
equalization that seems to be more
geared toward the home theater
enthusiast because there still are a lot of
of
two-channel purists who don't want to
use equalization
so that's why i say that home theater
doesn't necessarily need as smooth
response you just need
good early reflections directivity and
we're going to talk about reasons for
that in a little bit another reason that
non-linearities may be okay is because
you're focused on the action on the
screen for example you know if you go to
any movie you can have
distractions in the theater sometimes
they're really annoying if you have a
low level of anxiety like i sometimes do
when i go to the theater
you'll be worried a bit about the
numskull behind you who won't shut up
during the previews but you find that
once the movie starts
even if that person is still yapping a
little bit too much
you don't notice it as much because
you're focused really on what's going on
on the screen and that's why i say that
i find myself and having talked to
others that
you can handle non-linearities in the
response it doesn't have to be perfect
you know the timbre needs to be close to
real as close to real as you could
possibly get it but i think that you're
more willing to forgive some of those
inadequacies or
insufficiencies when you are watching a
movie because you're focused more on the
action on screen as opposed to turning
the projector off or turning the
television off and listening intently
for that sound low bass extension is not
necessary out of your main speakers in a
home theater and that's because pretty much
much
all home theaters
have subwoofers so you're directing the
low frequency content to dedicated
subwoofers unlike two channel where they
may not use dedicated subwoofers even
though i still contend that
every system
realistically every system can benefit
from dedicated subwoofers and maybe
there's a couple rare exceptions but
there's probably very few and far
between that couldn't benefit from a true
true
low frequency transducer driving all the
base now let's talk more about the
smooth early reflections directivity
index and this slide i'm kind of giving
you a recap of the
the
regions that
define what the early reflections are as
well as the listening window because as
i said before the
difference between the listening window
and the early reflections is what gives
you the early reflections directivity
index on the right side you'll see a
example of a speaker that i measured
earlier this year and it's one of the
better ones if not really the most
linear on-axis response that i've seen
so far and it really does have
maybe even still the best early
reflections directivity index shown in
this dashed blue line down here so we're
going to walk through a few examples i'm
going to show you a
good speaker in terms of on-axis
linearity and early reflections i'm
gonna show you a bad one and then i'm
gonna show you one that is a little bit
of both but give you a reason why i
think that the latter can be used for
home theater but maybe not used for two
channel stereo listening now this
speaker has
smooth on-axis and listening window
response as defined by the black line
and the green dash line i mean they're
pretty linear all things consider you
got to keep in mind the scale here each
bar set is 5 db so this speaker is
within about plus or minus one and a
half db
through most of the
basically about 30 hertz to 20 kilohertz
and that is superb now if we go to the
bottom and we look at this dash blue
line that's the difference between the
early reflections and the listening
window response and remember earlier i
said that you really want that to be as
smooth as possible whether it's a flat
line or whether it's kicked up that
that
that's up to preference but you want it
to be linear
also remember that this does take into
account horizontal and vertical usually
what you're going to find is the
vertical drive some
little blips some little deviations in
the early reflections directivity index
even when the horizontal response is
quite smooth and that really is the case here
here
the earlier reflections directivity
index for this speaker is about as
textbook perfect as you could hope to
get short of it being a single
transducer coaxial driver this is as
about as good as it's going to get
you we see this little bit of a bump
right around the one and a half
kilohertz region and that is so minor
that it's really not even worth calling out
out but
but
the reason that that is there is because
of the vertical distance between the tweeter
tweeter
and the drive unit that's below or the
mid-range and if we go to the horizontal
response we can see that the horizontal
response is just falling off
almost textbook perfectly so the issue
is not in the horizontal plane it's just
vertically and it's a very very minor
issue therefore this speaker will work
perfect for both
home theater
as well as 2-channel listening and it
and it has plenty of output for home
theater as well this is a speaker with
poor on-axis response as well as poor
listening window response and poor early
reflections directivity index and we see
that by this
black line and the dashed green line is
just really not quite linear i mean if
you take a
500 foot view back of it
it doesn't look terrible but the
resonance at about the one and a half
kilohertz area really throws off the linearity
linearity
and then the treble has some issues
going on
combined with a boost in the high frequency
frequency
now you think
okay well can i eq that well that's when
we go down here to look at the early
reflections directivity index and we try
to determine can we eq that and by this
graphic this dash blue line we can tell
that probably not
the reason for that is because
it's linear through about two kilohertz
and then there's a pretty big jump of
about four or five db and then it falls
back down at about what is that four or
five kilohertz again so we have a pretty
significant deviation here
now if that's due to the vertical plane
we might be okay
so let's see is it
looking at the horizontal plane
we can see that no indeed what we were
seeing with the
issues in the directivity index are
actually due at least in part to the
horizontal response and the reason we
see that is because if we take this
bottom response at 90 degrees
if it was linear it would continue
falling on down but it rebounds at a
crossover region
bounces back up falls back down bounces
back up again so this is a multi-way
speaker that doesn't hold its radiation
pattern in the horizontal plane well at all
all
that means that if you were trying to eq
it you could eq one region of it but it
will reflect across all regions of it
meaning that if i wanted to
bring down this notch right here i could
do that i would also do it in the off
axis responses too if i wanted to bring
up this notch at 1.5 kilohertz well in
doing so i also bring up some
non-linearities off-axes and really what
that means is i'm just exacerbating the
problem of having an on-axis response
that does not match the off axis
response so you can't simply eq that
away you
you're really stuck with a design that
is limited
in its performance basically but this
speaker does have a pretty good bit of
output here's a speaker that i think is
a really good example of how the data
can be twisted and confused and manipulated
manipulated
to give you a story depending on what
the story is that you want to tell
and this is really a pitfall of
of some analyst you know if you're
trying to analyze the data and maybe you
go into it with preconceived notions or
uh an axe to grind for whatever reason
let's start with the poor on-axis
and listening window responses we can
see that they're just kind of bouncing
all over the place
and when you get into higher frequency i
mean it smooths out a little bit but
you've still got some issues going on
and right away you can imagine that this
would not be an ideal speaker for
2-channel listening because it's just
not neutral across the board it could be
worse i've certainly seen worse but on a
whole you would have to do some pretty
decent eq to get this thing flat well if
you're a two-channel purist you don't
have equalization so you can't get that
to tailor to the sound that you want but
if we're a home theater enthusiast or if
you're a two channel enthusiast with equalization
equalization
can you eq the speaker well let's go
look down here this blue line maybe at
first glance you're thinking no you
really can't because it's it's kind of
dipping and it's bouncing up
but the dip isn't really as much of a concern
concern
and if you just kind of draw an
imaginary line through there you're
probably okay and then you've got a
little bit of a peek but it's reasonably
narrow in q
relative to its amplitude so its
amplitude's about maybe 2 db 1 or 2 db
over this magical trend line that i would
would
imaginarily draw through here
and you can see that if you just drew
the trend line through here the early
reflections directivity index of the
speaker looks pretty darn good and it actually
actually
is a speaker that you could eq and if we
go look at the horizontal response it
basically just tells us the same story
that yes indeed the horizontal looks
quite good the vertical is what's really
throwing things off in these early
reflections area
and we can eq this speaker this happens
to be a diy sound group speaker i don't
remember what the cost is to build it
but it does come in kit form i want to
say it's like 400 or 500 bucks for one
speaker you would build it yourself and
i think this is a great example of a
speaker that has
poor on-axis linearity but really good
early reflections directivity and that
means that for two-channel listening
without eq
probably not a good choice but if you
have home theater system with
equalization or your two-channel
enthusiast and you do have something
like a mini dsp or odyssey or any of
those kind of good eq systems then you
could flatten this speaker right out you
could tweak it and shape it to your own
desire it doesn't have to be flat it can
be tweaked to whatever you want but the
good thing is is as you're adjusting the
on axis response you are also adjusting
the off axis response in the similar
fashion and therefore everything that
hits you from the front side of that
speaker is also going to be really at
you from the side off the reflection of
the walls and it's going to work to
provide you with an overall sound that you
you
actually want now we're going to talk
about compression output linear area but
we're going to do this rather briefly
because i've discussed this
in depth before i'll throw a link in the
card up here or i'll try to remember to
but basically what this hits on is
transients dynamic range of a speaker if
you're listening to music or
a vocalist or you're watching a movie at
a lower volume and then all of a sudden
something comes on you know pretty strong
strong
you want the speaker to be able to relay
that sense of urgency and if it can't
then usually it's unable to do so
simply due to compression meaning that
if i have a sound that is 10 db higher
than the sound i'm listening to right
now well i want my speaker to be able to
play that 10 db louder instantaneously
but if a speaker suffers compression it
may only play five or six or seven db
louder it won't achieve that full 10 db
swing and that's what these test results
show and basically every speaker that
i've shown you so far is okay in terms
of output limitations but when you start
getting into crazy high output like 102
db at one meter which is a pair in a
room would be about 92 to 94 db at four meters
meters
you start to show weaknesses you start
to see signs of weaknesses in these
designs and this is generally what i see
against all speakers so
a few of them will really do well at the
102 db region
most of them do pretty well at 86 and 96
db so most of them had a pretty good 20
db dynamic swing but fewer of them have
26 db dynamic range and the reason i
test a little bit further because i just
kind of want to see what the limits are
that's a factor that you really need to
consider when you're talking about home
theater because
as i said before most home theater
enthusiasts are going to be listening to
it a little bit louder on average and
they're also generally speaking going to
be sitting a little bit further away
which means they're going to turn it up
a little bit louder as well and you want
to be able to cover that full dynamic
range every music or your movie soundtracks
soundtracks
your discussion your dialogue etc all
the sounds that are going on in the
movies you want to be able to capture
that you want that wince you want that
sound that makes you blink
because that's where the goods are in my
humble opinion a few notables that i'm
really not discussing in this video
simply due to time distortion you know i
said earlier you want low distortion
what is low distortion well
just completely generically speaking
i generally look at about three percent
thd as kind of the mark of okay this
speaker's starting to kind of run out of steam
steam
that's a personal choice you could
choose one percent it really depends
on the
the content that you're listening to uh
the order of distortion and the
frequency where that distortion occurs
along with the order so it's not
something you can quantify into a single
band i said three percent that's just
something i generally go off of if it's
below one percent that's probably going
to be completely undetectable in terms
of harmonic distortion uh we're also not
getting into imd intermodulated
distortion where a speaker plays one
tone but also another tone or multi-tone
where it plays multiple tones at a time
generally speaking i find that the
compression and the distortion testing
that i do are enough to give you a good
idea of what a speaker's system
capabilities are specific directivity
index value i mentioned earlier that
that would really be a conversation for
another day so that's what we're going
to leave it and to wrap everything up
spl is really the the big compromiser
here if you want a speaker that has a
lot of output linearity you want a
speaker that has multiple drive units
and when you have multiple drive units
then you start compromising on the
directivity index meaning that whereas a
crossover is placed you may have a
mismatch in radiation from a tweeter to
a mid-range or a mid-range to a mid-bass
or if you have multiple mid basses or
multiple mid-ranges you have a continuity
continuity
disconnect there and that creates issues
with the direct sound versus the off
axis sound and that really means that
it's going to cost you more money to get
a speaker that's able to
fix those issues because usually the way
it's done is by active crossover dsp crossovers
crossovers
or more steep
steep filters
filters
in your crossover which means more
crossover components and
the magnitude of cost just increases a
lot to get more components into a
crossover network so
i would say generally that if you're
looking at budget speakers let's say a
few hundred bucks and they have multiple
mid-ranges well you can probably assume
that it's not going to have great
directivity uh if you're looking a
little bit more maybe
five six hundred to a thousand and over
a thousand then you're probably getting
a little bit safer but you don't know
until you have the data and certainly
you can buy it and try it but the data
helps you make a better educated
decision and that's really what this
whole video was about directivity
smoothness always matters it doesn't
matter if it's just 2-channel or if it's
multi-channel home theater and you've
got equalization smoothness always
matters because in no case do you want
the off axis sound to sound different
than the on-axis sound on-axis linearity
and listening window linearity are
are
more crucial for 2-channel without eq
but less crucial for
systems with equalization for the
reasons i discussed earlier and then the
the underlying thing for all of this is
does the on-screen action
take your mind off of the imperfections
in your speaker system i certainly think
that it does
uh maybe there's research out there to
kind of prove the disconnect but i can
tell you from my personal experience and
talking with others that that really is
the case and i think this is one reason
why some people say well i own you know
a b c or d speaker and i see your
measurements but i still like it well
that could be one reason why but there's
also another
multitude of reasons why you may or may
not like a speaker that i may or may not
like but again that's when we look at
the data and we try to work through
things together to provide us both with
a better understanding of what we're
seeing and how it's going to relate to
what we hear in our listening room and
that's really it i appreciate you
watching and i truly hope you learned
something this video took a little bit
more effort than i normally do and it's
probably not even going to show but i
hope it does and i really hope that it
helps you understand why i'm a proponent of
of
good data not just any old data but good
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