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your parents have left and you've got

your parents have left and you've got the place to yourself tonight your

the place to yourself tonight your

the place to yourself tonight your friends are coming over and one of them

friends are coming over and one of them

friends are coming over and one of them is bringing the game you dim the lights

is bringing the game you dim the lights

is bringing the game you dim the lights they like the candles

they like the candles

they like the candles in Old lettered board is laid on the

in Old lettered board is laid on the

in Old lettered board is laid on the floor

floor

floor and beneath your fingers the planchette

and beneath your fingers the planchette

and beneath your fingers the planchette begins to wake

begins to wake

begins to wake before long your call out through the

before long your call out through the

before long your call out through the darkness is heard something pulls itself

darkness is heard something pulls itself

darkness is heard something pulls itself from the dark corners of the room and

from the dark corners of the room and

from the dark corners of the room and joins your circle

joins your circle

joins your circle and it's grinning as it puts its fingers

and it's grinning as it puts its fingers

and it's grinning as it puts its fingers next

next join us on this episode of belief hole

join us on this episode of belief hole

join us on this episode of belief hole as we travel down the dark alley of

as we travel down the dark alley of

as we travel down the dark alley of Ouija history and recount Untold

Ouija history and recount Untold

Ouija history and recount Untold harrowing true Tales of Ouija Ouija

harrowing true Tales of Ouija Ouija

harrowing true Tales of Ouija Ouija board horror and the deceiving

board horror and the deceiving

board horror and the deceiving [Music]

conspiracy synchronous it's Sasquatch

conspiracy synchronous it's Sasquatch homunculus alien races Satanism in

homunculus alien races Satanism in

homunculus alien races Satanism in Hollywood MK Ultra tartaria there's like

Hollywood MK Ultra tartaria there's like

Hollywood MK Ultra tartaria there's like a whole I've been watching this one guys

a whole I've been watching this one guys

a whole I've been watching this one guys close the door is jury close your door

close the door is jury close your door

close the door is jury close your door what's the uh inner earth disagreements

what's the uh inner earth disagreements

what's the uh inner earth disagreements ghost dad I like that movie don't mind

ghost dad I like that movie don't mind

ghost dad I like that movie don't mind Bohemian grower he felt magicians are

Bohemian grower he felt magicians are

Bohemian grower he felt magicians are demons

demons

demons summonings strange disappearance Sky

summonings strange disappearance Sky

summonings strange disappearance Sky whale phenomena alternative history

whale phenomena alternative history

whale phenomena alternative history quiet I'm trying to say words

quiet I'm trying to say words

quiet I'm trying to say words [Music]

[Music]

[Music] what is the moon elf Tower I would never

what is the moon elf Tower I would never

what is the moon elf Tower I would never talk about that's old Y2K cover-ups

talk about that's old Y2K cover-ups

talk about that's old Y2K cover-ups apocalyptic catastrophe vampire

[Music]

[Music] well hello hello hi hello welcome to

well hello hello hi hello welcome to

well hello hello hi hello welcome to belief hole I'm Jeremy I'm John and I am

belief hole I'm Jeremy I'm John and I am

belief hole I'm Jeremy I'm John and I am Chris and you today are our lucky

Chris and you today are our lucky

Chris and you today are our lucky listeners because today as we drop this

listeners because today as we drop this

listeners because today as we drop this episode will be the very first day of

episode will be the very first day of

episode will be the very first day of the month of Halloween

it's like that makes us all Lucky yeah

it's like that makes us all Lucky yeah because it's our favorite season right

because it's our favorite season right

because it's our favorite season right guys it goes quite well with our show

guys it goes quite well with our show

guys it goes quite well with our show month of mystery yes this will begin a

month of mystery yes this will begin a

month of mystery yes this will begin a long beliefful month because we'll

long beliefful month because we'll

long beliefful month because we'll actually have three episodes dropping

actually have three episodes dropping

actually have three episodes dropping yes we had to reconfigure our schedule a

yes we had to reconfigure our schedule a

yes we had to reconfigure our schedule a tad as you'll remember from last episode

tad as you'll remember from last episode

tad as you'll remember from last episode if you were here because we are in our

if you were here because we are in our

if you were here because we are in our new studio and we had to sound proof it

new studio and we had to sound proof it

new studio and we had to sound proof it which I would say I think has been

which I would say I think has been

which I would say I think has been working rather well we did a fantastic

working rather well we did a fantastic

working rather well we did a fantastic job we did a pretty good DIY job on that

job we did a pretty good DIY job on that

job we did a pretty good DIY job on that window yes it took about four days to

window yes it took about four days to

window yes it took about four days to just do one window but we built it we

just do one window but we built it we

just do one window but we built it we are now in a cave yes

are now in a cave yes

are now in a cave yes anyway I think we all kind of thought a

anyway I think we all kind of thought a

anyway I think we all kind of thought a good idea for the first episode of this

good idea for the first episode of this

good idea for the first episode of this spooky season would be kind of an

spooky season would be kind of an

spooky season would be kind of an episode of warning

episode of warning

episode of warning [Music]

[Music]

[Music] I kind of thought doing stories of the

I kind of thought doing stories of the

I kind of thought doing stories of the Ouija board I hope for some reason every

Ouija board I hope for some reason every

Ouija board I hope for some reason every year comes around and I think you know

year comes around and I think you know

year comes around and I think you know what a fun idea it's fun until it goes

what a fun idea it's fun until it goes

what a fun idea it's fun until it goes wrong exactly well it's game-esque right

wrong exactly well it's game-esque right

wrong exactly well it's game-esque right it's interactive it's like a board game

it's interactive it's like a board game

it's interactive it's like a board game and there's potential for Mischief

and there's potential for Mischief

and there's potential for Mischief exactly and there there's this Allure

exactly and there there's this Allure

exactly and there there's this Allure because it is especially with the season

because it is especially with the season

because it is especially with the season now of breaking into the other world the

now of breaking into the other world the

now of breaking into the other world the veils lifting the Realms so closely tied

veils lifting the Realms so closely tied

veils lifting the Realms so closely tied together with saulin and all that uh at

together with saulin and all that uh at

together with saulin and all that uh at the heart of Luigi idea or the Ouija

the heart of Luigi idea or the Ouija

the heart of Luigi idea or the Ouija idea is the ability to reach over and

idea is the ability to reach over and

idea is the ability to reach over and communicate with something and of course

communicate with something and of course

communicate with something and of course yeah that sounds fun especially if

yeah that sounds fun especially if

yeah that sounds fun especially if you're a kid you know you don't know how

you're a kid you know you don't know how

you're a kid you know you don't know how serious to take things and for some

serious to take things and for some

serious to take things and for some reason every year I always forget how

reason every year I always forget how

reason every year I always forget how dark it can go and like the warning

dark it can go and like the warning

dark it can go and like the warning aspects of these you don't remember from

aspects of these you don't remember from

aspects of these you don't remember from all the other episodes you've done I

all the other episodes you've done I

all the other episodes you've done I mean I do but um but there's something

mean I do but um but there's something

mean I do but um but there's something that like I don't know if it's the board

that like I don't know if it's the board

that like I don't know if it's the board that makes me forget

that makes me forget

that makes me forget it doesn't want me to remember and it's

it doesn't want me to remember and it's

it doesn't want me to remember and it's like try Jeremy try it out there's

like try Jeremy try it out there's

like try Jeremy try it out there's there's a still an Allure for me despite

there's a still an Allure for me despite

there's a still an Allure for me despite all the terrible I still do not

all the terrible I still do not

all the terrible I still do not recommend doing it no yeah I mean and

recommend doing it no yeah I mean and

recommend doing it no yeah I mean and you'll hear some stories in this episode

you'll hear some stories in this episode

you'll hear some stories in this episode why it probably isn't the best idea

why it probably isn't the best idea

why it probably isn't the best idea unless you really know what you're doing

unless you really know what you're doing

unless you really know what you're doing I don't know if there's people out there

I don't know if there's people out there

I don't know if there's people out there that like you know I guess you'd have to

that like you know I guess you'd have to

that like you know I guess you'd have to almost be like media mask people claim

almost be like media mask people claim

almost be like media mask people claim to be yeah to use it sure there are

to be yeah to use it sure there are

to be yeah to use it sure there are probably people that know more what

probably people that know more what

probably people that know more what they're doing yeah yeah I think the big

they're doing yeah yeah I think the big

they're doing yeah yeah I think the big takeaway from it for me at least is if

takeaway from it for me at least is if

takeaway from it for me at least is if you believe like I believe that you are

you believe like I believe that you are

you believe like I believe that you are opening up a doorway to speak to

opening up a doorway to speak to

opening up a doorway to speak to something it's not guaranteed that

something it's not guaranteed that

something it's not guaranteed that you're going to speak to something

you're going to speak to something

you're going to speak to something that's nice or something that has that

that's nice or something that has that

that's nice or something that has that wants to communicate that's what I'm

wants to communicate that's what I'm

wants to communicate that's what I'm saying is at the end of the day there's

saying is at the end of the day there's

saying is at the end of the day there's always opportunity for risk kind of the

always opportunity for risk kind of the

always opportunity for risk kind of the darkest kind of risk kind of like

darkest kind of risk kind of like

darkest kind of risk kind of like getting on a boat and going in the

getting on a boat and going in the

getting on a boat and going in the middle of the ocean and jumping in

yeah while carrying raw hamburger meat

yeah while carrying raw hamburger meat well it may not be that extreme but you

well it may not be that extreme but you

well it may not be that extreme but you just don't know what's in the water

just don't know what's in the water

just don't know what's in the water right oh good way to put it John that's

right oh good way to put it John that's

right oh good way to put it John that's true and it's not your realm depending

true and it's not your realm depending

true and it's not your realm depending on who is using the board though like I

on who is using the board though like I

on who is using the board though like I do think people that maybe are

do think people that maybe are

do think people that maybe are unbalanced emotionally unbalanced

unbalanced emotionally unbalanced

unbalanced emotionally unbalanced mentally spiritually that could be like

mentally spiritually that could be like

mentally spiritually that could be like hamburger meat oh for sure yes yeah I

hamburger meat oh for sure yes yeah I

hamburger meat oh for sure yes yeah I think that I'm sure there would be scuba

think that I'm sure there would be scuba

think that I'm sure there would be scuba divers and professional swimmers that

divers and professional swimmers that

divers and professional swimmers that would be like I would never touch the

would be like I would never touch the

would be like I would never touch the Ouija board but I'm fine going in the

Ouija board but I'm fine going in the

Ouija board but I'm fine going in the ocean it's not nearly as dangerous as

ocean it's not nearly as dangerous as

ocean it's not nearly as dangerous as playing with the Ouija board I doubt

playing with the Ouija board I doubt

playing with the Ouija board I doubt that what you think there's a lot of

that what you think there's a lot of

that what you think there's a lot of deep ocean divers that were like I think

deep ocean divers that were like I think

deep ocean divers that were like I think it seems like a weird comparison well I

it seems like a weird comparison well I

it seems like a weird comparison well I think they would get off a boat and not

think they would get off a boat and not

think they would get off a boat and not be scared or not think it's dead you can

be scared or not think it's dead you can

be scared or not think it's dead you can make a comparison as those people that

make a comparison as those people that

make a comparison as those people that are divers that know what they're doing

are divers that know what they're doing

are divers that know what they're doing can be like people that know what

can be like people that know what

can be like people that know what they're doing it's like you know mediums

they're doing it's like you know mediums

they're doing it's like you know mediums or right that have an idea of like how

or right that have an idea of like how

or right that have an idea of like how to navigate those Waters right so to

to navigate those Waters right so to

to navigate those Waters right so to speak and if you guys haven't heard our

speak and if you guys haven't heard our

speak and if you guys haven't heard our episodes on this by the way I just

episodes on this by the way I just

episodes on this by the way I just realized this is our first public

realized this is our first public

realized this is our first public episode on the Ouija board we've done

episode on the Ouija board we've done

episode on the Ouija board we've done one in the first season which is now

one in the first season which is now

one in the first season which is now archived for members and then we have

archived for members and then we have

archived for members and then we have the Zozo episode we did which covered a

the Zozo episode we did which covered a

the Zozo episode we did which covered a lot of the the history of the Ouija

lot of the the history of the Ouija

lot of the the history of the Ouija board kind of the Mysteries that lie in

board kind of the Mysteries that lie in

board kind of the Mysteries that lie in there and that's also in the expansion

there and that's also in the expansion

there and that's also in the expansion so this is our first public one we did a

so this is our first public one we did a

so this is our first public one we did a public one but yeah it became archived

public one but yeah it became archived

public one but yeah it became archived yeah from the first season but yeah to

yeah from the first season but yeah to

yeah from the first season but yeah to that point John were you just saying

that point John were you just saying

that point John were you just saying that I was bouncing off of ocean

that I was bouncing off of ocean

that I was bouncing off of ocean swimmers ocean swimmers

swimmers ocean swimmers

swimmers ocean swimmers um these ocean swimmers those are mother

um these ocean swimmers those are mother

um these ocean swimmers those are mother ocean yeah to that point John

ocean yeah to that point John

ocean yeah to that point John controversial because there are people

controversial because there are people

controversial because there are people of course that believe there's no way to

of course that believe there's no way to

of course that believe there's no way to be safe playing the Ouija board that's

be safe playing the Ouija board that's

be safe playing the Ouija board that's kind of kind of in that camp I don't

kind of kind of in that camp I don't

kind of kind of in that camp I don't think there's any way you can be

think there's any way you can be

think there's any way you can be completely safe even if you're well

completely safe even if you're well

completely safe even if you're well practiced you never know there's always

practiced you never know there's always

practiced you never know there's always a risk that something more powerful than

a risk that something more powerful than

a risk that something more powerful than what you're able to understand you're

what you're able to understand you're

what you're able to understand you're opening a door you never know what's

opening a door you never know what's

opening a door you never know what's going to be on their site that's true

going to be on their site that's true

going to be on their site that's true bottom line is we are not experts and we

bottom line is we are not experts and we

bottom line is we are not experts and we don't fully know well I've had one

don't fully know well I've had one

don't fully know well I've had one experience with the board that was

experience with the board that was

experience with the board that was successful and although it was not

successful and although it was not

successful and although it was not frightening in the moment but it was

frightening in the moment but it was

frightening in the moment but it was astonishing the rest of that night held

astonishing the rest of that night held

astonishing the rest of that night held this dark heaviness weighted feeling of

this dark heaviness weighted feeling of

this dark heaviness weighted feeling of Oppression in the the normal apartment

Oppression in the the normal apartment

Oppression in the the normal apartment that I was in my ex-girlfriend's

that I was in my ex-girlfriend's

that I was in my ex-girlfriend's apartment which was normally a normal

apartment which was normally a normal

apartment which was normally a normal environment but there was that feeling

environment but there was that feeling

environment but there was that feeling that oppression that you often hear

that oppression that you often hear

that oppression that you often hear which did you have that experience

which did you have that experience

which did you have that experience because you were there that night too

because you were there that night too

because you were there that night too when we had did your friend Abby's after

when we had did your friend Abby's after

when we had did your friend Abby's after during the game it was almost kind of um

during the game it was almost kind of um

during the game it was almost kind of um it was thrilling because it was someone

it was thrilling because it was someone

it was thrilling because it was someone coming through we got answers from a

coming through we got answers from a

coming through we got answers from a friend of ours whose father died and

friend of ours whose father died and

friend of ours whose father died and they answered this question

they answered this question

they answered this question how many fish did we catch that day

how many fish did we catch that day

how many fish did we catch that day meaning her and her father when they

meaning her and her father when they

meaning her and her father when they went fishing on this very memorable day

went fishing on this very memorable day

went fishing on this very memorable day which no one could have known except for

which no one could have known except for

which no one could have known except for her so we couldn't we couldn't move the

her so we couldn't we couldn't move the

her so we couldn't we couldn't move the plant yet and it moved to the right

plant yet and it moved to the right

plant yet and it moved to the right number which I think was four and she

number which I think was four and she

number which I think was four and she started like tearing up yeah visibly

started like tearing up yeah visibly

started like tearing up yeah visibly shaking yeah like she wouldn't have done

shaking yeah like she wouldn't have done

shaking yeah like she wouldn't have done that to just forgot that because she was

that to just forgot that because she was

that to just forgot that because she was obviously very emotionally connected to

obviously very emotionally connected to

obviously very emotionally connected to that and so at that point it was

that and so at that point it was

that and so at that point it was thrilling it was fascinating yeah and it

thrilling it was fascinating yeah and it

thrilling it was fascinating yeah and it wasn't until later that there was this

wasn't until later that there was this

wasn't until later that there was this kind of darkness and there is this theme

kind of darkness and there is this theme

kind of darkness and there is this theme this through line with these stories you

this through line with these stories you

this through line with these stories you get where it is thrilling and it can

get where it is thrilling and it can

get where it is thrilling and it can even be helpful or seemed like a helpful

even be helpful or seemed like a helpful

even be helpful or seemed like a helpful Spirit or entity that you're talking

Spirit or entity that you're talking

Spirit or entity that you're talking with so Lori in yeah and then at some

with so Lori in yeah and then at some

with so Lori in yeah and then at some point inevitably the board turns nasty

point inevitably the board turns nasty

point inevitably the board turns nasty [Music]

[Music]

[Music] yes after you're already hooked which

yes after you're already hooked which

yes after you're already hooked which reminds me of the movie we just saw oh

reminds me of the movie we just saw oh

reminds me of the movie we just saw oh that's right talk to me talk to me yeah

that's right talk to me talk to me yeah

that's right talk to me talk to me yeah very well done very well done if you

very well done very well done if you

very well done very well done if you guys haven't seen this creepy movie it's

guys haven't seen this creepy movie it's

guys haven't seen this creepy movie it's not the Ouija board itself but it has

not the Ouija board itself but it has

not the Ouija board itself but it has very similar undertones yeah the tool in

very similar undertones yeah the tool in

very similar undertones yeah the tool in it I won't give too much away it's a

it I won't give too much away it's a

it I won't give too much away it's a hand

hand

hand it's a hand well that's not a sport yes

it's a hand well that's not a sport yes

it's a hand well that's not a sport yes that's true it's essentially the story

that's true it's essentially the story

that's true it's essentially the story behind it is that it's uh it's a hand

behind it is that it's uh it's a hand

behind it is that it's uh it's a hand the embalmed hand of a medium who died

the embalmed hand of a medium who died

the embalmed hand of a medium who died and at some point they had put plaster

and at some point they had put plaster

and at some point they had put plaster over it and it somehow found its way to

over it and it somehow found its way to

over it and it somehow found its way to teenagers using it to party to

teenagers using it to party to

teenagers using it to party to communicate with the dead it's a really

communicate with the dead it's a really

communicate with the dead it's a really interest unique I think look at spirit

interest unique I think look at spirit

interest unique I think look at spirit communication obviously fictionalized

communication obviously fictionalized

communication obviously fictionalized and look at when we all come across this

and look at when we all come across this

and look at when we all come across this stuff when we're younger yeah and like

stuff when we're younger yeah and like

stuff when we're younger yeah and like you're saying John that atmosphere of

you're saying John that atmosphere of

you're saying John that atmosphere of excitement and Intrigue and danger

excitement and Intrigue and danger

excitement and Intrigue and danger danger and you're watching this and

danger and you're watching this and

danger and you're watching this and you're like what this is doing to kids

you're like what this is doing to kids

you're like what this is doing to kids when they are playing with this toy

when they are playing with this toy

when they are playing with this toy similar to the Ouija board in real life

similar to the Ouija board in real life

similar to the Ouija board in real life it was ridiculous to think that this

it was ridiculous to think that this

it was ridiculous to think that this would be like a party favor like a fun

would be like a party favor like a fun

would be like a party favor like a fun thing you do like drinking doing drugs

thing you do like drinking doing drugs

thing you do like drinking doing drugs and then this game connecting with the

and then this game connecting with the

and then this game connecting with the dead doesn't seem especially with what

dead doesn't seem especially with what

dead doesn't seem especially with what happens in the movie there would be like

happens in the movie there would be like

happens in the movie there would be like a party thing but at that age there is

a party thing but at that age there is

a party thing but at that age there is that high you get with just the thrill

that high you get with just the thrill

that high you get with just the thrill of you know being together as

of you know being together as

of you know being together as adolescents and you know what can go

adolescents and you know what can go

adolescents and you know what can go wrong the mystery the danger and so I

wrong the mystery the danger and so I

wrong the mystery the danger and so I could see how something like that could

could see how something like that could

could see how something like that could happen you also feel Immortal at that

happen you also feel Immortal at that

happen you also feel Immortal at that age exactly yeah we got an interesting

age exactly yeah we got an interesting

age exactly yeah we got an interesting comment from someone on YouTube about

comment from someone on YouTube about

comment from someone on YouTube about this it's interesting that this was

this it's interesting that this was

this it's interesting that this was turned into like a game distributed

turned into like a game distributed

turned into like a game distributed Millions around the world right and if

Millions around the world right and if

Millions around the world right and if you think about some of the deeper

you think about some of the deeper

you think about some of the deeper layers of our world a lot of people

layers of our world a lot of people

layers of our world a lot of people think that there's some powerful groups

think that there's some powerful groups

think that there's some powerful groups that you know may be colluding with this

that you know may be colluding with this

that you know may be colluding with this side right of Darkness yeah to seed the

side right of Darkness yeah to seed the

side right of Darkness yeah to seed the world with them you believe that they're

world with them you believe that they're

world with them you believe that they're you know it's like almost like opening

you know it's like almost like opening

you know it's like almost like opening up portals all over them oh that's a

up portals all over them oh that's a

up portals all over them oh that's a that's a fascinating idea the idea of

that's a fascinating idea the idea of

that's a fascinating idea the idea of yeah basically sending it out to

yeah basically sending it out to

yeah basically sending it out to unknowns let's make it a fun game for

unknowns let's make it a fun game for

unknowns let's make it a fun game for kids they will create doorways in the

kids they will create doorways in the

kids they will create doorways in the home of every suburb yeah that's a movie

home of every suburb yeah that's a movie

home of every suburb yeah that's a movie plot right there that's is that the

plot right there that's is that the

plot right there that's is that the alternative history of the Ouija board

alternative history of the Ouija board

alternative history of the Ouija board yeah or Ouija board it's interesting

yeah or Ouija board it's interesting

yeah or Ouija board it's interesting because you know the we've covered the

because you know the we've covered the

because you know the we've covered the history of it in the past before for but

history of it in the past before for but

history of it in the past before for but the guy who developed it Canard was his

the guy who developed it Canard was his

the guy who developed it Canard was his name but he was like a tinkerer inventor

name but he was like a tinkerer inventor

name but he was like a tinkerer inventor guy the original guy the original guy

guy the original guy the original guy

guy the original guy the original guy who invented it or didn't invent it

who invented it or didn't invent it

who invented it or didn't invent it because really it came out of the

because really it came out of the

because really it came out of the talking boards from the spiritual

talking boards from the spiritual

talking boards from the spiritual movement but this guy was from Ohio and

movement but this guy was from Ohio and

movement but this guy was from Ohio and he was kind of an inventor and he was in

he was kind of an inventor and he was in

he was kind of an inventor and he was in a building next to a guy who used to be

a building next to a guy who used to be

a building next to a guy who used to be a Furniture maker and then became a

a Furniture maker and then became a

a Furniture maker and then became a coffin maker and a mortician and so they

coffin maker and a mortician and so they

coffin maker and a mortician and so they got together heard about these talking

got together heard about these talking

got together heard about these talking words they started to make it Canard

words they started to make it Canard

words they started to make it Canard eventually moved away started his own

eventually moved away started his own

eventually moved away started his own talking board thing finally got an

talking board thing finally got an

talking board thing finally got an investor and that's how you get the name

investor and that's how you get the name

investor and that's how you get the name of the board the investor that started

of the board the investor that started

of the board the investor that started investing his sister-in-law she was a

investing his sister-in-law she was a

investing his sister-in-law she was a medium and she was the one who convinced

medium and she was the one who convinced

medium and she was the one who convinced the patent office that this was real and

the patent office that this was real and

the patent office that this was real and she's the one who's allegedly allegedly

she's the one who's allegedly allegedly

she's the one who's allegedly allegedly the board had spelled out the name of it

the board had spelled out the name of it

the board had spelled out the name of it Ouija basically like the board gave

Ouija basically like the board gave

Ouija basically like the board gave itself the name yeah so maybe the board

itself the name yeah so maybe the board

itself the name yeah so maybe the board itself well which wouldn't be the board

itself well which wouldn't be the board

itself well which wouldn't be the board it would be the other side right I mean

it would be the other side right I mean

it would be the other side right I mean this portal to be open the clan the

this portal to be open the clan the

this portal to be open the clan the allegation is that she made it up right

allegation is that she made it up right

allegation is that she made it up right anyway but the whole reason I mentioned

anyway but the whole reason I mentioned

anyway but the whole reason I mentioned that is because the guy who eventually

that is because the guy who eventually

that is because the guy who eventually took over the Canard novelty business or

took over the Canard novelty business or

took over the Canard novelty business or whatever fold full old the board told

whatever fold full old the board told

whatever fold full old the board told him allegedly to build a factory and it

him allegedly to build a factory and it

him allegedly to build a factory and it said business will come big business

said business will come big business

said business will come big business will come so he built the factory and

will come so he built the factory and

will come so he built the factory and when they were putting in the flagpole

when they were putting in the flagpole

when they were putting in the flagpole he fell off the roof I think we told

he fell off the roof I think we told

he fell off the roof I think we told that story and died but he made his

that story and died but he made his

that story and died but he made his family swear to never sell the Ouija

family swear to never sell the Ouija

family swear to never sell the Ouija company and they didn't for four decades

company and they didn't for four decades

company and they didn't for four decades so the guy who sorry the guy who built

so the guy who sorry the guy who built

so the guy who sorry the guy who built the factory that made Ouija boards

the factory that made Ouija boards

the factory that made Ouija boards mysteriously fell off the roof of the

mysteriously fell off the roof of the

mysteriously fell off the roof of the Ouija board Factory after the Ouija

Ouija board Factory after the Ouija

Ouija board Factory after the Ouija board told him to build essentially his

board told him to build essentially his

board told him to build essentially his death plank right it was at the

death plank right it was at the

death plank right it was at the beginning of the Mischief but anyway

beginning of the Mischief but anyway

beginning of the Mischief but anyway creepy four generations later his family

creepy four generations later his family

creepy four generations later his family does eventually sell it to Parker

does eventually sell it to Parker

does eventually sell it to Parker Brothers and then they move it to their

Brothers and then they move it to their

Brothers and then they move it to their home base in Salem Massachusetts crazy

home base in Salem Massachusetts crazy

home base in Salem Massachusetts crazy and then two million copies are sold

and then two million copies are sold

and then two million copies are sold which is interesting because most of the

which is interesting because most of the

which is interesting because most of the stories we've received for well I would

stories we've received for well I would

stories we've received for well I would say the location that most often comes

say the location that most often comes

say the location that most often comes up from the stories we've received so

up from the stories we've received so

up from the stories we've received so far has been Massachusetts which was

far has been Massachusetts which was

far has been Massachusetts which was just kind of weird from our own

just kind of weird from our own

just kind of weird from our own listeners the gym is like what if

listeners the gym is like what if

listeners the gym is like what if there's portals that are opening up from

there's portals that are opening up from

there's portals that are opening up from the manufacturing factories of Parker

the manufacturing factories of Parker

the manufacturing factories of Parker Brothers it's all real what's I wonder

Brothers it's all real what's I wonder

Brothers it's all real what's I wonder what the history of Parker Brothers is

what the history of Parker Brothers is

what the history of Parker Brothers is that's a good question

that's a good question

that's a good question oh it was founded by a 17th century

oh it was founded by a 17th century

oh it was founded by a 17th century sorcerer developing magic wands

sorcerer developing magic wands

sorcerer developing magic wands not really oh yeah before we begin what

not really oh yeah before we begin what

not really oh yeah before we begin what is coming up on this episode chair break

is coming up on this episode chair break

is coming up on this episode chair break it down so we have a lot of really

it down so we have a lot of really

it down so we have a lot of really fascinating terrifying compelling and

fascinating terrifying compelling and

fascinating terrifying compelling and several disturbing

several disturbing

several disturbing Ouija board stories Original Stories uh

Ouija board stories Original Stories uh

Ouija board stories Original Stories uh most of which are from our very own

most of which are from our very own

most of which are from our very own listeners which I was surprised by the

listeners which I was surprised by the

listeners which I was surprised by the amount of stories we've received but all

amount of stories we've received but all

amount of stories we've received but all are allegedly true judge for yourself

are allegedly true judge for yourself

are allegedly true judge for yourself Discerning listener and one very special

Discerning listener and one very special

Discerning listener and one very special submission from our good friend and

submission from our good friend and

submission from our good friend and master Storyteller Steve Stockton so

master Storyteller Steve Stockton so

master Storyteller Steve Stockton so stick around to the end of the episode

stick around to the end of the episode

stick around to the end of the episode for that cherry on the top but yes we've

for that cherry on the top but yes we've

for that cherry on the top but yes we've got some really really fascinating ones

got some really really fascinating ones

got some really really fascinating ones really creepy Tales to get you in the

really creepy Tales to get you in the

really creepy Tales to get you in the Halloween spirit and maybe make you

Halloween spirit and maybe make you

Halloween spirit and maybe make you think twice before putting your pointy

think twice before putting your pointy

think twice before putting your pointy fingers on the planchette

yeah I have a weird story quickly before

yeah I have a weird story quickly before we jump into the show tell it this

we jump into the show tell it this

we jump into the show tell it this happened the other day the other morning

happened the other day the other morning

happened the other day the other morning actually uh I ran into a neighbor and

actually uh I ran into a neighbor and

actually uh I ran into a neighbor and she actually might be on the show at

she actually might be on the show at

she actually might be on the show at some point she is a psychic medium I'm

some point she is a psychic medium I'm

some point she is a psychic medium I'm not exactly sure the term that she would

not exactly sure the term that she would

not exactly sure the term that she would like to use but sensitive maybe

like to use but sensitive maybe

like to use but sensitive maybe sensitive yeah some someone that has had

sensitive yeah some someone that has had

sensitive yeah some someone that has had these experiences her whole life and she

these experiences her whole life and she

these experiences her whole life and she doesn't do this professionally right now

doesn't do this professionally right now

doesn't do this professionally right now it's been like a lifelong thing where it

it's been like a lifelong thing where it

it's been like a lifelong thing where it just started you know I think she can

just started you know I think she can

just started you know I think she can sense Spirits visually in her mind is

sense Spirits visually in her mind is

sense Spirits visually in her mind is what I gathered I don't again this was

what I gathered I don't again this was

what I gathered I don't again this was kind of a brief conversation she might

kind of a brief conversation she might

kind of a brief conversation she might be listening she might not I'm not sure

be listening she might not I'm not sure

be listening she might not I'm not sure and she I know that she had listened to

and she I know that she had listened to

and she I know that she had listened to a couple of our shows she seems

a couple of our shows she seems

a couple of our shows she seems interested in in uh coming on the show

interested in in uh coming on the show

interested in in uh coming on the show at some point and it sounds like she's

at some point and it sounds like she's

at some point and it sounds like she's got a lot of interesting stories she

got a lot of interesting stories she

got a lot of interesting stories she basically can see dead people wherever

basically can see dead people wherever

basically can see dead people wherever she goes yeah the question is do you

she goes yeah the question is do you

she goes yeah the question is do you want to interview her after the freaky

want to interview her after the freaky

want to interview her after the freaky things you've already learned I know I

things you've already learned I know I

things you've already learned I know I am nervous about that because this did

am nervous about that because this did

am nervous about that because this did unnerve me pretty much the first part of

unnerve me pretty much the first part of

unnerve me pretty much the first part of the day all day why don't you tell us

the day all day why don't you tell us

the day all day why don't you tell us about that what that sorry

I live out in the country kind of and I

I live out in the country kind of and I was walking my dog in the morning

was walking my dog in the morning

was walking my dog in the morning there's like a trail that runs near the

there's like a trail that runs near the

there's like a trail that runs near the property and I knew her very

property and I knew her very

property and I knew her very lightly that's not very much

lightly that's not very much

lightly that's not very much um she used to work where I would get

um she used to work where I would get

um she used to work where I would get Jake's Food my dog and um you know I

Jake's Food my dog and um you know I

Jake's Food my dog and um you know I think I'd mentioned like oh hey how's it

think I'd mentioned like oh hey how's it

think I'd mentioned like oh hey how's it going we ended up talking about her dog

going we ended up talking about her dog

going we ended up talking about her dog and while we were on the trail and it

and while we were on the trail and it

and while we were on the trail and it ended up getting to the point where I'm

ended up getting to the point where I'm

ended up getting to the point where I'm not even exactly sure how it started to

not even exactly sure how it started to

not even exactly sure how it started to be honest

be honest

be honest but we started getting more into the

but we started getting more into the

but we started getting more into the weird I told her about the show and

weird I told her about the show and

weird I told her about the show and that's when she kind of perked up and

that's when she kind of perked up and

that's when she kind of perked up and started to mention that she's had a lot

started to mention that she's had a lot

started to mention that she's had a lot of these experiences she's a psychic and

of these experiences she's a psychic and

of these experiences she's a psychic and um you know the conversation escalated

um you know the conversation escalated

um you know the conversation escalated and uh well then she told me about you

and uh well then she told me about you

and uh well then she told me about you know the fact that she can kind of see

know the fact that she can kind of see

know the fact that she can kind of see dead people wherever she goes and then

dead people wherever she goes and then

dead people wherever she goes and then uh she mentioned that there is a spirit

uh she mentioned that there is a spirit

uh she mentioned that there is a spirit that wanders right around my house where

that wanders right around my house where

that wanders right around my house where the church is right next door she said

the church is right next door she said

the church is right next door she said that there was someone that was murdered

that there was someone that was murdered

that there was someone that was murdered that was hung there was like a big tree

that was hung there was like a big tree

that was hung there was like a big tree out front of the church and that he was

out front of the church and that he was

out front of the church and that he was this really huge guy that would scare

this really huge guy that would scare

this really huge guy that would scare her like run up to her and be like I

her like run up to her and be like I

her like run up to her and be like I know you can see me oh wow that's freaky

know you can see me oh wow that's freaky

know you can see me oh wow that's freaky yeah so this is right next to my house

yeah so this is right next to my house

yeah so this is right next to my house so every time I see that tree now it

so every time I see that tree now it

so every time I see that tree now it just apparently he just like wanders

just apparently he just like wanders

just apparently he just like wanders around yeah a stuck Spirit what really

around yeah a stuck Spirit what really

around yeah a stuck Spirit what really creeped me out was the story she told me

creeped me out was the story she told me

creeped me out was the story she told me that apparently there is a man that

that apparently there is a man that

that apparently there is a man that follows me wherever I go

follows me wherever I go

follows me wherever I go yeah a guy that's taller than me and I'm

yeah a guy that's taller than me and I'm

yeah a guy that's taller than me and I'm not super tall but I'm pretty tall and

not super tall but I'm pretty tall and

not super tall but I'm pretty tall and he's like you know taller than me super

he's like you know taller than me super

he's like you know taller than me super skinny bald pattern horseshoe shaped

skinny bald pattern horseshoe shaped

skinny bald pattern horseshoe shaped bald head walks with the gate so like

bald head walks with the gate so like

bald head walks with the gate so like big bow legs like he I think she said he

big bow legs like he I think she said he

big bow legs like he I think she said he had rickets too and I I didn't look that

had rickets too and I I didn't look that

had rickets too and I I didn't look that up but I know it's kind of like an

up but I know it's kind of like an

up but I know it's kind of like an old-timey disease but she said he looks

old-timey disease but she said he looks

old-timey disease but she said he looks lost

lost

lost not sad and that he follows me I mean

not sad and that he follows me I mean

not sad and that he follows me I mean she says she always sees him following

she says she always sees him following

she says she always sees him following behind me which is a creepy [ __ ] how did

behind me which is a creepy [ __ ] how did

behind me which is a creepy [ __ ] how did that make you feel very unnerved

that make you feel very unnerved

that make you feel very unnerved I mean at least At first I don't really

I mean at least At first I don't really

I mean at least At first I don't really I haven't thought about it in a couple

I haven't thought about it in a couple

I haven't thought about it in a couple days but definitely like and I don't

days but definitely like and I don't

days but definitely like and I don't know does he follow me into the house

know does he follow me into the house

know does he follow me into the house because she just sees me when I'm just

because she just sees me when I'm just

because she just sees me when I'm just walking Jake around that's true yeah I

walking Jake around that's true yeah I

walking Jake around that's true yeah I could just picture lanky hanky like

could just picture lanky hanky like

could just picture lanky hanky like standing oh yeah his name starts with an

standing oh yeah his name starts with an

standing oh yeah his name starts with an H she said that too okay and she also

H she said that too okay and she also

H she said that too okay and she also said which is funny she's like no one's

said which is funny she's like no one's

said which is funny she's like no one's ever told you that before

let alone if anyone could see him most

let alone if anyone could see him most people aren't going to walk up and be

people aren't going to walk up and be

people aren't going to walk up and be like hey you have a dead person

like hey you have a dead person

like hey you have a dead person following you around wherever you go

following you around wherever you go

following you around wherever you go yeah skulking over you as you walk down

yeah skulking over you as you walk down

yeah skulking over you as you walk down you said you've never had a negative

you said you've never had a negative

you said you've never had a negative feeling so you'd imagine he's probably

feeling so you'd imagine he's probably

feeling so you'd imagine he's probably not a negative she said that he wasn't

not a negative she said that he wasn't

not a negative she said that he wasn't like a negative being he just looks lost

like a negative being he just looks lost

like a negative being he just looks lost will you command such confidence I mean

will you command such confidence I mean

will you command such confidence I mean I'm a bright light in a dark world

I'm a bright light in a dark world

I'm a bright light in a dark world there's no leader and he's following no

there's no leader and he's following no

there's no leader and he's following no I don't know yeah it's just but it was

I don't know yeah it's just but it was

I don't know yeah it's just but it was very still very unnerving he really

very still very unnerving he really

very still very unnerving he really enjoys Bitcoin YouTube videos I'm sure

enjoys Bitcoin YouTube videos I'm sure

enjoys Bitcoin YouTube videos I'm sure so what time are we getting together to

so what time are we getting together to

so what time are we getting together to do the week board to talk to him at your

do the week board to talk to him at your

do the week board to talk to him at your house oh never a clock

house oh never a clock

house oh never a clock she also did say she saw a large dog

she also did say she saw a large dog

she also did say she saw a large dog man-like creature I kind of put that in

man-like creature I kind of put that in

man-like creature I kind of put that in her mouth because she said it was like a

her mouth because she said it was like a

her mouth because she said it was like a seven foot tall creature that was

seven foot tall creature that was

seven foot tall creature that was chasing a rabbit across she said her and

chasing a rabbit across she said her and

chasing a rabbit across she said her and her daughter saw it they ran across the

her daughter saw it they ran across the

her daughter saw it they ran across the road in the physical like a real

road in the physical like a real

road in the physical like a real physical material yeah right where down

physical material yeah right where down

physical material yeah right where down where I live yeah and uh I said if

where I live yeah and uh I said if

where I live yeah and uh I said if you've ever heard a dog man she's like

you've ever heard a dog man she's like

you've ever heard a dog man she's like yeah kind of like that right at the

yeah kind of like that right at the

yeah kind of like that right at the mouth of the Towpath I think so we need

mouth of the Towpath I think so we need

mouth of the Towpath I think so we need to get her to talk about that that's

to get her to talk about that that's

to get her to talk about that that's interesting to be super creepy that area

interesting to be super creepy that area

interesting to be super creepy that area has had obviously we know that uh Silver

has had obviously we know that uh Silver

has had obviously we know that uh Silver Creek's not far and there's that famous

Creek's not far and there's that famous

Creek's not far and there's that famous dog man account there but also our

dog man account there but also our

dog man account there but also our friend who through another friend had

friend who through another friend had

friend who through another friend had seen the glowing green figure oh yeah in

seen the glowing green figure oh yeah in

seen the glowing green figure oh yeah in the forest at a distance from the trail

the forest at a distance from the trail

the forest at a distance from the trail almost exactly the same spot so I wonder

almost exactly the same spot so I wonder

almost exactly the same spot so I wonder if there's some sort of I mean she said

if there's some sort of I mean she said

if there's some sort of I mean she said in this area too there's just because

in this area too there's just because

in this area too there's just because it's such an old area it's like there's

it's such an old area it's like there's

it's such an old area it's like there's just she says people everywhere she said

just she says people everywhere she said

just she says people everywhere she said it's hard for her to leave just

it's hard for her to leave just

it's hard for her to leave just lingering because there's just so many

lingering because there's just so many

lingering because there's just so many spirits apparently wander around it's

spirits apparently wander around it's

spirits apparently wander around it's such a fascinating thing to imagine that

such a fascinating thing to imagine that

such a fascinating thing to imagine that old Canal Town that's now like this like

old Canal Town that's now like this like

old Canal Town that's now like this like kind of kind of empty Village really

kind of kind of empty Village really

kind of kind of empty Village really just like a mainstream I'm sure Canal

just like a mainstream I'm sure Canal

just like a mainstream I'm sure Canal Fulton is similar there's probably just

Fulton is similar there's probably just

Fulton is similar there's probably just like Spirits everywhere wandering around

like Spirits everywhere wandering around

like Spirits everywhere wandering around so many there was so much

so many there was so much

so many there was so much um you know with the coal boom and

um you know with the coal boom and

um you know with the coal boom and everything and the canal the canal boom

everything and the canal the canal boom

everything and the canal the canal boom there was so much productivity and life

there was so much productivity and life

there was so much productivity and life there for a time and it's also so much

there for a time and it's also so much

there for a time and it's also so much heartbreak disaster murders going on all

heartbreak disaster murders going on all

heartbreak disaster murders going on all the time I mean it'd be interesting to

the time I mean it'd be interesting to

the time I mean it'd be interesting to see what that would look like so

see what that would look like so

see what that would look like so hopefully we will have her on on the

hopefully we will have her on on the

hopefully we will have her on on the show at some point and she can talk more

show at some point and she can talk more

show at some point and she can talk more about that kind of stuff I have a lot of

about that kind of stuff I have a lot of

about that kind of stuff I have a lot of questions about just medium psychics in

questions about just medium psychics in

questions about just medium psychics in general yeah I mean just the fact that

general yeah I mean just the fact that

general yeah I mean just the fact that yeah you have those experiences all the

yeah you have those experiences all the

yeah you have those experiences all the time I'd like her thoughts on the

time I'd like her thoughts on the

time I'd like her thoughts on the afterlife and you know stuff like that

afterlife and you know stuff like that

afterlife and you know stuff like that fascinating and uh yeah so that was my

fascinating and uh yeah so that was my

fascinating and uh yeah so that was my story very strange for me because I

story very strange for me because I

story very strange for me because I don't usually have I've had some weird

don't usually have I've had some weird

don't usually have I've had some weird stuff happen but it's been a while since

stuff happen but it's been a while since

stuff happen but it's been a while since I've been like creeped out like that

I've been like creeped out like that

I've been like creeped out like that yeah it's a little unsettling someone

yeah it's a little unsettling someone

yeah it's a little unsettling someone that's following me around well I hope

that's following me around well I hope

that's following me around well I hope lanky hanky's enjoying the show today

lanky hanky's enjoying the show today

lanky hanky's enjoying the show today yes he's lurches behind you

yes he's lurches behind you

yes he's lurches behind you we'll get another example of things

we'll get another example of things

we'll get another example of things around us all the time waiting to

around us all the time waiting to

around us all the time waiting to communicate

let's get into our first story let's do

let's get into our first story let's do it let's start it off with I thought one

it let's start it off with I thought one

it let's start it off with I thought one of our most fantastic stories this I

of our most fantastic stories this I

of our most fantastic stories this I would consider jumanji-esque I think

would consider jumanji-esque I think

would consider jumanji-esque I think some what described in the story this

some what described in the story this

some what described in the story this one is well let's just play it this

one is well let's just play it this

one is well let's just play it this comes from a listener of the show farsim

comes from a listener of the show farsim

comes from a listener of the show farsim who had previously sent in a story that

who had previously sent in a story that

who had previously sent in a story that was really good and we didn't have time

was really good and we didn't have time

was really good and we didn't have time to do it on the last listener Stories

to do it on the last listener Stories

to do it on the last listener Stories episode but he did make mention in that

episode but he did make mention in that

episode but he did make mention in that story something like this may have all

story something like this may have all

story something like this may have all started when we were younger and had

started when we were younger and had

started when we were younger and had messed around with a Ouija board but

messed around with a Ouija board but

messed around with a Ouija board but that's the story for another time and I

that's the story for another time and I

that's the story for another time and I thought at the moment I want to hear

thought at the moment I want to hear

thought at the moment I want to hear that story so when we put this card for

that story so when we put this card for

that story so when we put this card for Ouija boards I wondered if he was going

Ouija boards I wondered if he was going

Ouija boards I wondered if he was going to send it in and he did so this is the

to send it in and he did so this is the

to send it in and he did so this is the story from farsum

story from farsum

story from farsum hey what's going on guys Chris John

hey what's going on guys Chris John

hey what's going on guys Chris John Jeremy thank you so much for these

Jeremy thank you so much for these

Jeremy thank you so much for these amazing episodes the belief hole is my

amazing episodes the belief hole is my

amazing episodes the belief hole is my favorite podcast hands down I submitted

favorite podcast hands down I submitted

favorite podcast hands down I submitted a story to you guys before and I kind of

a story to you guys before and I kind of

a story to you guys before and I kind of mentioned the Ouija board uh in one part

mentioned the Ouija board uh in one part

mentioned the Ouija board uh in one part of it submitted the story about the

of it submitted the story about the

of it submitted the story about the white thing in the backyard that scared

white thing in the backyard that scared

white thing in the backyard that scared the crap out of all my friends Luigi

the crap out of all my friends Luigi

the crap out of all my friends Luigi board is actually a big part of my life

board is actually a big part of my life

board is actually a big part of my life now because I messed around like an

now because I messed around like an

now because I messed around like an idiot and played with it when I was 12

idiot and played with it when I was 12

idiot and played with it when I was 12 years old I mean my cousin we messed

years old I mean my cousin we messed

years old I mean my cousin we messed with it and I'm pretty sure

with it and I'm pretty sure

with it and I'm pretty sure everything that has happened in my life

everything that has happened in my life

everything that has happened in my life is because we messed around with that

is because we messed around with that

is because we messed around with that Ouija board back then I'm 34 years old

Ouija board back then I'm 34 years old

Ouija board back then I'm 34 years old now

now

now so this is a long time ago but I don't

so this is a long time ago but I don't

so this is a long time ago but I don't really talk about this because first of

really talk about this because first of

really talk about this because first of all it sounds like

all it sounds like

all it sounds like I'm making it up like it sounds crazy

I'm making it up like it sounds crazy

I'm making it up like it sounds crazy because this kind of stuff doesn't

because this kind of stuff doesn't

because this kind of stuff doesn't happen outside of movies or TV shows

happen outside of movies or TV shows

happen outside of movies or TV shows like my cousin will not talk to me about

like my cousin will not talk to me about

like my cousin will not talk to me about it like if I bring it up he craps

it like if I bring it up he craps

it like if I bring it up he craps himself we just don't talk about it

himself we just don't talk about it

himself we just don't talk about it hey

hey

hey but basically Story Goes his parents and

but basically Story Goes his parents and

but basically Story Goes his parents and my parents were out partying whatever it

my parents were out partying whatever it

my parents were out partying whatever it was like 10 or 11 at night and this was

was like 10 or 11 at night and this was

was like 10 or 11 at night and this was you know 22 years ago so there wasn't

you know 22 years ago so there wasn't

you know 22 years ago so there wasn't much to do we had like video games and

much to do we had like video games and

much to do we had like video games and stuff but he had a Ouija board in the

stuff but he had a Ouija board in the

stuff but he had a Ouija board in the house and this wasn't your typical Toys

house and this wasn't your typical Toys

house and this wasn't your typical Toys R Us Ouija board this was something like

R Us Ouija board this was something like

R Us Ouija board this was something like out of Jumanji like it was a wooden

out of Jumanji like it was a wooden

out of Jumanji like it was a wooden thick board it was old too

thick board it was old too

thick board it was old too looks like it was handcrafted or

looks like it was handcrafted or

looks like it was handcrafted or something we're sitting there and we're

something we're sitting there and we're

something we're sitting there and we're playing with it and we're asking stupid

playing with it and we're asking stupid

playing with it and we're asking stupid questions you know like

questions you know like

questions you know like 10 and a 12 year old wood

10 and a 12 year old wood

10 and a 12 year old wood and something started shaking and we

and something started shaking and we

and something started shaking and we don't know if it's the board or like we

don't know if it's the board or like we

don't know if it's the board or like we just start looking around us if it's one

just start looking around us if it's one

just start looking around us if it's one of the toys or games that he had in the

of the toys or games that he had in the

of the toys or games that he had in the basement at the time

basement at the time

basement at the time and then it just stops and everything is

and then it just stops and everything is

and then it just stops and everything is silent

silent

silent [Music]

[Music]

[Music] we turn around to look at the board

we turn around to look at the board

we turn around to look at the board and at the exact same time be kind of

and at the exact same time be kind of

and at the exact same time be kind of like locked eyes because we were like

like locked eyes because we were like

like locked eyes because we were like why is it so quiet right now everything

why is it so quiet right now everything

why is it so quiet right now everything went eerily silent like we could hear

went eerily silent like we could hear

went eerily silent like we could hear our own heartbeat

our own heartbeat

our own heartbeat as soon as that happened it's as if

as soon as that happened it's as if

as soon as that happened it's as if somebody had yanked the ward up the

somebody had yanked the ward up the

somebody had yanked the ward up the thing shot up in the air

thing shot up in the air

thing shot up in the air and snapped in half

and snapped in half

and snapped in half [Applause]

hi hi [ __ ] you not the board snapped in

hi [ __ ] you not the board snapped in

hi [ __ ] you not the board snapped in half in front of us and it was loud it

half in front of us and it was loud it

half in front of us and it was loud it was like a shotgun going off

was like a shotgun going off

was like a shotgun going off my cousin immediately broke out into

my cousin immediately broke out into

my cousin immediately broke out into like a shrieking cry and ran the hell

like a shrieking cry and ran the hell

like a shrieking cry and ran the hell away I was so scared I was just sitting

away I was so scared I was just sitting

away I was so scared I was just sitting there I didn't know what to do

there I didn't know what to do

there I didn't know what to do I was looking around to see if something

I was looking around to see if something

I was looking around to see if something had caused it if something fell from the

had caused it if something fell from the

had caused it if something fell from the roof from a rock or something hit it and

roof from a rock or something hit it and

roof from a rock or something hit it and I I can't explain what happened but it's

I I can't explain what happened but it's

I I can't explain what happened but it's as if somebody grabbed the Ouija board

as if somebody grabbed the Ouija board

as if somebody grabbed the Ouija board picked it up snapped in a half in front

picked it up snapped in a half in front

picked it up snapped in a half in front of us and just walked away

of us and just walked away

of us and just walked away [Music]

[Music]

[Music] I left and never went back to that house

I left and never went back to that house

I left and never went back to that house again so we hang out it's at my place or

again so we hang out it's at my place or

again so we hang out it's at my place or just out at a bar or something but I

just out at a bar or something but I

just out at a bar or something but I don't know what happened to the Ouija

don't know what happened to the Ouija

don't know what happened to the Ouija board he doesn't ever want to talk about

board he doesn't ever want to talk about

board he doesn't ever want to talk about it I don't know it kind of things

it I don't know it kind of things

it I don't know it kind of things happened to him and his family since

happened to him and his family since

happened to him and his family since then but

then but

then but I could sit here for an hour and tell

I could sit here for an hour and tell

I could sit here for an hour and tell you the kind of stuff that's happened to

you the kind of stuff that's happened to

you the kind of stuff that's happened to me and my family I after the events of

me and my family I after the events of

me and my family I after the events of that night

that night

that night yeah still scares the hell out of me

yeah still scares the hell out of me

yeah still scares the hell out of me when I think about it it's crazy most

when I think about it it's crazy most

when I think about it it's crazy most people probably wouldn't even believe me

people probably wouldn't even believe me

people probably wouldn't even believe me if I told him the story but I figured

if I told him the story but I figured

if I told him the story but I figured the belief was the perfect place

the belief was the perfect place

the belief was the perfect place you picked the right place to go sir I

you picked the right place to go sir I

you picked the right place to go sir I mean that would be terrifying to see I

mean that would be terrifying to see I

mean that would be terrifying to see I mean it's so it's so incredible the idea

mean it's so it's so incredible the idea

mean it's so it's so incredible the idea of something being picked up in the air

of something being picked up in the air

of something being picked up in the air and broke in half but it is interesting

and broke in half but it is interesting

and broke in half but it is interesting too because I've heard stories like this

too because I've heard stories like this

too because I've heard stories like this before where the board is broken and

before where the board is broken and

before where the board is broken and there's a particular way you're supposed

there's a particular way you're supposed

there's a particular way you're supposed to dispose of a Ouija board I don't know

to dispose of a Ouija board I don't know

to dispose of a Ouija board I don't know if there's any set rule don't burn it

if there's any set rule don't burn it

if there's any set rule don't burn it don't burn it which I think I did no you

don't burn it which I think I did no you

don't burn it which I think I did no you no over at the church next door you did

no over at the church next door you did

no over at the church next door you did I think that makes a lot of sense now

I think that makes a lot of sense now

I think that makes a lot of sense now breaking burning it's almost like you

breaking burning it's almost like you

breaking burning it's almost like you guarantee and like he said this was kind

guarantee and like he said this was kind

guarantee and like he said this was kind of like a Hallmark for how his life went

of like a Hallmark for how his life went

of like a Hallmark for how his life went on to be marked by this kind of

on to be marked by this kind of

on to be marked by this kind of experience potentially this was the

experience potentially this was the

experience potentially this was the beginning and there is something about

beginning and there is something about

beginning and there is something about the destruction of the board the

the destruction of the board the

the destruction of the board the breaking open or the burning that

breaking open or the burning that

breaking open or the burning that apparently lets something loose it's not

apparently lets something loose it's not

apparently lets something loose it's not the proper way like you know you have to

the proper way like you know you have to

the proper way like you know you have to say goodbye and a session where you

say goodbye and a session where you

say goodbye and a session where you leave the door open well there's also

leave the door open well there's also

leave the door open well there's also the board itself can contain or have

the board itself can contain or have

the board itself can contain or have attachments that when the physical

attachments that when the physical

attachments that when the physical object is destroyed burned or broken

object is destroyed burned or broken

object is destroyed burned or broken it's like the entities or attachments

it's like the entities or attachments

it's like the entities or attachments are then allowed to escape exactly but

are then allowed to escape exactly but

are then allowed to escape exactly but he didn't break it that's not fair it

he didn't break it that's not fair it

he didn't break it that's not fair it broke that does that's not but you

broke that does that's not but you

broke that does that's not but you invited it in potentially it has the

invited it in potentially it has the

invited it in potentially it has the power to do that it's interesting how

power to do that it's interesting how

power to do that it's interesting how old the board was too like yeah I wonder

old the board was too like yeah I wonder

old the board was too like yeah I wonder where that where it came from and if it

where that where it came from and if it

where that where it came from and if it was handmade potentially it sounds like

was handmade potentially it sounds like

was handmade potentially it sounds like an like an artifact almost and it could

an like an artifact almost and it could

an like an artifact almost and it could go back to Victorian times you had the

go back to Victorian times you had the

go back to Victorian times you had the talking boards you know pre-parker

talking boards you know pre-parker

talking boards you know pre-parker Brothers the better exactly during the

Brothers the better exactly during the

Brothers the better exactly during the late 1800s with the spiritual movement

late 1800s with the spiritual movement

late 1800s with the spiritual movement that's when they started to get really

that's when they started to get really

that's when they started to get really popular because after the Civil War and

popular because after the Civil War and

popular because after the Civil War and almost you know some people had died

almost you know some people had died

almost you know some people had died there's a lot of people just missing

there's a lot of people just missing

there's a lot of people just missing their brother their dad their husband

their brother their dad their husband

their brother their dad their husband well you know from that time period near

well you know from that time period near

well you know from that time period near the little plan chat before long before

the little plan chat before long before

the little plan chat before long before the talking board they used to have

the talking board they used to have

the talking board they used to have planchettes without the board do you

planchettes without the board do you

planchettes without the board do you know that oh but they were larger they

know that oh but they were larger they

know that oh but they were larger they were on casters and instead of it

were on casters and instead of it

were on casters and instead of it pointing out letters on a board it would

pointing out letters on a board it would

pointing out letters on a board it would have a pencil or some sort of marking

have a pencil or some sort of marking

have a pencil or some sort of marking device underneath and you would

device underneath and you would

device underneath and you would basically automatic write with this

basically automatic write with this

basically automatic write with this giant planchette which was French for

giant planchette which was French for

giant planchette which was French for little plank but I thought that was

little plank but I thought that was

little plank but I thought that was interesting so that has its roots in the

interesting so that has its roots in the

interesting so that has its roots in the Victorian era with the spiritualism

Victorian era with the spiritualism

Victorian era with the spiritualism going further back so basically combined

going further back so basically combined

going further back so basically combined it with the board the board's nothing

it with the board the board's nothing

it with the board the board's nothing more pragmatic oh yeah for sure put some

more pragmatic oh yeah for sure put some

more pragmatic oh yeah for sure put some letters on there you can just spell it

letters on there you can just spell it

letters on there you can just spell it out it makes it more dangerous because

out it makes it more dangerous because

out it makes it more dangerous because it's more readable you know what letters

it's more readable you know what letters

it's more readable you know what letters for sure it's not some bad script

for sure it's not some bad script

for sure it's not some bad script writing but yeah the breaking of the

writing but yeah the breaking of the

writing but yeah the breaking of the board then there's the burning of the

board then there's the burning of the

board then there's the burning of the board the problems with that I don't

board the problems with that I don't

board the problems with that I don't know how many stories I've read were

know how many stories I've read were

know how many stories I've read were there's this odd attribute to the

there's this odd attribute to the

there's this odd attribute to the burning where so many people report

burning where so many people report

burning where so many people report hearing screaming when the board is

hearing screaming when the board is

hearing screaming when the board is burned

burned

burned [Music]

[Music]

[Music] whether that's entities screaming or

whether that's entities screaming or

whether that's entities screaming or Spirits attached or the you know the

Spirits attached or the you know the

Spirits attached or the you know the evil itself screaming but a listener of

evil itself screaming but a listener of

evil itself screaming but a listener of ours hi Brazil uh user on YouTube who

ours hi Brazil uh user on YouTube who

ours hi Brazil uh user on YouTube who calls the channel apparently his

calls the channel apparently his

calls the channel apparently his cousin's friends allegedly burned their

cousin's friends allegedly burned their

cousin's friends allegedly burned their board his cousins wouldn't play with it

board his cousins wouldn't play with it

board his cousins wouldn't play with it because they knew better and when their

because they knew better and when their

because they knew better and when their friends burned the board after having

friends burned the board after having

friends burned the board after having crazy experiences with it allegedly

crazy experiences with it allegedly

crazy experiences with it allegedly um screams screams coming from the fire

um screams screams coming from the fire

um screams screams coming from the fire but that's Mo I've heard multiple

but that's Mo I've heard multiple

but that's Mo I've heard multiple stories I mean we could do a whole

stories I mean we could do a whole

stories I mean we could do a whole episode on just these connections and

episode on just these connections and

episode on just these connections and collaborative accounts of what happens

collaborative accounts of what happens

collaborative accounts of what happens when you try to dispose of the board

when you try to dispose of the board

when you try to dispose of the board yeah that does seem very like Hollywood

yeah that does seem very like Hollywood

yeah that does seem very like Hollywood screaming of the board I wonder if it

screaming of the board I wonder if it

screaming of the board I wonder if it could be the paint you know well there's

could be the paint you know well there's

could be the paint you know well there's always yeah there's always quote

always yeah there's always quote

always yeah there's always quote rational explanations but yeah thank you

rational explanations but yeah thank you

rational explanations but yeah thank you so much for that story for us yeah thank

so much for that story for us yeah thank

so much for that story for us yeah thank you yeah so we're gonna hear with the

you yeah so we're gonna hear with the

you yeah so we're gonna hear with the other story at some point you think too

other story at some point you think too

other story at some point you think too oh yeah for sure okay like that was also

oh yeah for sure okay like that was also

oh yeah for sure okay like that was also a really good story but this was so this

a really good story but this was so this

a really good story but this was so this is kind of the thing that started it

is kind of the thing that started it

is kind of the thing that started it right yeah this is we essentially played

right yeah this is we essentially played

right yeah this is we essentially played the prequel to The Story first but we'll

the prequel to The Story first but we'll

the prequel to The Story first but we'll do that in a future episode right now

do that in a future episode right now

do that in a future episode right now let's get to another

let's get to another

let's get to another Ouija board story

yeah so Heidi sent us in uh we call it

yeah so Heidi sent us in uh we call it the nasty board the story this was a a

the nasty board the story this was a a

the nasty board the story this was a a really great example of how things can

really great example of how things can

really great example of how things can go wrong how you can be lured in the old

go wrong how you can be lured in the old

go wrong how you can be lured in the old Switcheroo the Temptation Of The Hidden

Switcheroo the Temptation Of The Hidden

Switcheroo the Temptation Of The Hidden knowledge being revealed and how

knowledge being revealed and how

knowledge being revealed and how especially as a younger child and not

especially as a younger child and not

especially as a younger child and not caring as much about the consequence

caring as much about the consequence

caring as much about the consequence being tempted to continue talking to

being tempted to continue talking to

being tempted to continue talking to something that's giving you information

something that's giving you information

something that's giving you information that nobody else knows that is being

that nobody else knows that is being

that nobody else knows that is being proven to be true it seems like a

proven to be true it seems like a

proven to be true it seems like a superpower so this is Heidi's account

superpower so this is Heidi's account

superpower so this is Heidi's account and how things can change over time

and how things can change over time

and how things can change over time using these tools and this comes from as

using these tools and this comes from as

using these tools and this comes from as you mentioned earlier Massachusetts one

you mentioned earlier Massachusetts one

you mentioned earlier Massachusetts one of our many Massachusetts submissions

of our many Massachusetts submissions

of our many Massachusetts submissions and this took place in the 1980s

and this took place in the 1980s

and this took place in the 1980s [Music]

[Music]

[Music] hi guys I have got a Ouija board story

hi guys I have got a Ouija board story

hi guys I have got a Ouija board story for you

for you

for you I was in Middle School and my best

I was in Middle School and my best

I was in Middle School and my best friend's name was Michelle and we

friend's name was Michelle and we

friend's name was Michelle and we somehow found a Ouija board I guess she

somehow found a Ouija board I guess she

somehow found a Ouija board I guess she had a bunch of brothers and sisters and

had a bunch of brothers and sisters and

had a bunch of brothers and sisters and I guess her parents had bought it for

I guess her parents had bought it for

I guess her parents had bought it for them at a toy store one year and so one

them at a toy store one year and so one

them at a toy store one year and so one day we thought well let's play with the

day we thought well let's play with the

day we thought well let's play with the Ouija board and we can figure out which

Ouija board and we can figure out which

Ouija board and we can figure out which boys like us and who are who our future

boys like us and who are who our future

boys like us and who are who our future husbands gonna be and silly things like

husbands gonna be and silly things like

husbands gonna be and silly things like that so we started playing with the

that so we started playing with the

that so we started playing with the Ouija board and it was you know the

Ouija board and it was you know the

Ouija board and it was you know the usual slow moving from letter to letter

usual slow moving from letter to letter

usual slow moving from letter to letter and I thought for sure that my friend

and I thought for sure that my friend

and I thought for sure that my friend was moving it even though she swore she

was moving it even though she swore she

was moving it even though she swore she wasn't and I knew that I wasn't and it

wasn't and I knew that I wasn't and it

wasn't and I knew that I wasn't and it started giving us really accurate

started giving us really accurate

started giving us really accurate answers to the things that we asked and

answers to the things that we asked and

answers to the things that we asked and so we became more and more addicted to

so we became more and more addicted to

so we became more and more addicted to it and we started rushing to her house

it and we started rushing to her house

it and we started rushing to her house every day after school to play with the

every day after school to play with the

every day after school to play with the Ouija board in her room and we would ask

Ouija board in her room and we would ask

Ouija board in her room and we would ask it questions like is the boy I like

it questions like is the boy I like

it questions like is the boy I like going to talk to me at lunch tomorrow

going to talk to me at lunch tomorrow

going to talk to me at lunch tomorrow and and it would say yes

and and it would say yes

and and it would say yes he's going to sit with you for example

he's going to sit with you for example

he's going to sit with you for example and it would happen and so all these

and it would happen and so all these

and it would happen and so all these strange things started happening and so

strange things started happening and so

strange things started happening and so her parents started getting a little

her parents started getting a little

her parents started getting a little disapproving of how much time we were

disapproving of how much time we were

disapproving of how much time we were spending with the Ouija board but we

spending with the Ouija board but we

spending with the Ouija board but we said it's true it's really telling us

said it's true it's really telling us

said it's true it's really telling us true things it's giving us the answer so

true things it's giving us the answer so

true things it's giving us the answer so we said to her father have us ask it a

we said to her father have us ask it a

we said to her father have us ask it a question that there's no way that we

question that there's no way that we

question that there's no way that we could possibly know the answer to

could possibly know the answer to

could possibly know the answer to and he said okay what was my first

and he said okay what was my first

and he said okay what was my first car

car

car and the Ouija board spelled out brown De

and the Ouija board spelled out brown De

and the Ouija board spelled out brown De Soto

Soto

Soto and you could just see the look of shock

and you could just see the look of shock

and you could just see the look of shock on his face and my best friend didn't

on his face and my best friend didn't

on his face and my best friend didn't know that even his own wife didn't know

know that even his own wife didn't know

know that even his own wife didn't know what his first car was and it answered

what his first car was and it answered

what his first car was and it answered correctly

correctly

correctly so when that happened her mother

so when that happened her mother

so when that happened her mother um became a little alarmed and didn't

um became a little alarmed and didn't

um became a little alarmed and didn't really like us playing with the Ouija

really like us playing with the Ouija

really like us playing with the Ouija board anymore

board anymore

board anymore so she threw it away in the trash and

so she threw it away in the trash and

so she threw it away in the trash and none of those weird stories about it

none of those weird stories about it

none of those weird stories about it reappearing in the closet or anything

reappearing in the closet or anything

reappearing in the closet or anything like that she threw it away and it

like that she threw it away and it

like that she threw it away and it stayed thrown away but we didn't want to

stayed thrown away but we didn't want to

stayed thrown away but we didn't want to give up because we're having such

give up because we're having such

give up because we're having such success with it so we decided to make

success with it so we decided to make

success with it so we decided to make our own Ouija board so we got a piece of

our own Ouija board so we got a piece of

our own Ouija board so we got a piece of cardboard and we wrote everything you

cardboard and we wrote everything you

cardboard and we wrote everything you know the yes and the know even drew the

know the yes and the know even drew the

know the yes and the know even drew the little Sun and the Moon we had the

little Sun and the Moon we had the

little Sun and the Moon we had the numbers and and the letters we knew

numbers and and the letters we knew

numbers and and the letters we knew which ones were on the top row and which

which ones were on the top row and which

which ones were on the top row and which ones were on the bottom row and and then

ones were on the bottom row and and then

ones were on the bottom row and and then we took a plastic cover to a blender a

we took a plastic cover to a blender a

we took a plastic cover to a blender a blender top you know how they have those

blender top you know how they have those

blender top you know how they have those little uh the piece of plastic in the

little uh the piece of plastic in the

little uh the piece of plastic in the middle it's like a square well we poked

middle it's like a square well we poked

middle it's like a square well we poked the piece of plastic out of the middle

the piece of plastic out of the middle

the piece of plastic out of the middle and so we had a square piece of rubber

and so we had a square piece of rubber

and so we had a square piece of rubber with a circle in the middle

with a circle in the middle

with a circle in the middle and we didn't think that it would work

and we didn't think that it would work

and we didn't think that it would work but we put it on the board and we put

but we put it on the board and we put

but we put it on the board and we put our fingers on it and sure enough it

our fingers on it and sure enough it

our fingers on it and sure enough it started moving around the board and even

started moving around the board and even

started moving around the board and even with the rubber instead of a planchette

with the rubber instead of a planchette

with the rubber instead of a planchette it was still gliding around just as

it was still gliding around just as

it was still gliding around just as easily

easily

easily and over time

and over time

and over time the Ouija board started off you know

the Ouija board started off you know

the Ouija board started off you know innocuous but it's just started getting

innocuous but it's just started getting

innocuous but it's just started getting nastier and nastier and the quote plan

nastier and nastier and the quote plan

nastier and nastier and the quote plan chat that we had started moving faster

chat that we had started moving faster

chat that we had started moving faster and faster and it would do this weird

and faster and it would do this weird

and faster and it would do this weird thing where it would we'd put our

thing where it would we'd put our

thing where it would we'd put our fingers on it we'd ask a question it

fingers on it we'd ask a question it

fingers on it we'd ask a question it would circle circle circle around the

would circle circle circle around the

would circle circle circle around the board so fast that I swear both of our

board so fast that I swear both of our

board so fast that I swear both of our our fingers would come off of it and it

our fingers would come off of it and it

our fingers would come off of it and it would continue moving because we just

would continue moving because we just

would continue moving because we just couldn't keep our hands on it moved so

couldn't keep our hands on it moved so

couldn't keep our hands on it moved so fast and then it would go six six six

fast and then it would go six six six

fast and then it would go six six six and then it would answer the question

and that was the new pattern of what it

and that was the new pattern of what it would do it would fly around the board

would do it would fly around the board

would do it would fly around the board do 666 and then answer the question so

do 666 and then answer the question so

do 666 and then answer the question so you know of course we started getting a

you know of course we started getting a

you know of course we started getting a little nervous about playing with it but

little nervous about playing with it but

little nervous about playing with it but um it was too much fun and it was giving

um it was too much fun and it was giving

um it was too much fun and it was giving us all of this inside information on

us all of this inside information on

us all of this inside information on people and so we kept playing with it

people and so we kept playing with it

people and so we kept playing with it and then soon enough it started spelling

and then soon enough it started spelling

and then soon enough it started spelling things out without us even asking a

things out without us even asking a

things out without us even asking a question

it started calling us [ __ ] and [ __ ]

it started calling us [ __ ] and [ __ ] and saying you know really nasty bile

and saying you know really nasty bile

and saying you know really nasty bile things and the last time we ever

that sucks yeah Cliffhanger yeah her uh

that sucks yeah Cliffhanger yeah her uh speak pipe ended and we've been trying

speak pipe ended and we've been trying

speak pipe ended and we've been trying to get a hold of her to get the end of

to get a hold of her to get the end of

to get a hold of her to get the end of because the conclusion I'm sure is

because the conclusion I'm sure is

because the conclusion I'm sure is pretty interesting I mean that leaves

pretty interesting I mean that leaves

pretty interesting I mean that leaves you right on the edge I know so we'll

you right on the edge I know so we'll

you right on the edge I know so we'll see if she gives it to us by the ending

see if she gives it to us by the ending

see if she gives it to us by the ending of the post-production period we can put

of the post-production period we can put

of the post-production period we can put it in I think the Ouija board is

it in I think the Ouija board is

it in I think the Ouija board is blocking our communication I don't think

blocking our communication I don't think

blocking our communication I don't think so that's just weird that is weird but

so that's just weird that is weird but

so that's just weird that is weird but we'll see we might have the ending of

we'll see we might have the ending of

we'll see we might have the ending of that if not we'll have to we'll have to

that if not we'll have to we'll have to

that if not we'll have to we'll have to drop it uh bring it to the show at some

drop it uh bring it to the show at some

drop it uh bring it to the show at some point I'm gonna tell you after the

point I'm gonna tell you after the

point I'm gonna tell you after the answer starts spelling out beginning

answer starts spelling out beginning

answer starts spelling out beginning with 666 yeah immediately be like okay

with 666 yeah immediately be like okay

with 666 yeah immediately be like okay you know giving over your will or the

you know giving over your will or the

you know giving over your will or the evil itself or things or people that

evil itself or things or people that

evil itself or things or people that represent evil have to tell you what

represent evil have to tell you what

represent evil have to tell you what they're doing in some small way and it's

they're doing in some small way and it's

they're doing in some small way and it's kind of like just so you know you're now

kind of like just so you know you're now

kind of like just so you know you're now making a deal with me that's kind of the

making a deal with me that's kind of the

making a deal with me that's kind of the feeling of it you know that this isn't

feeling of it you know that this isn't

feeling of it you know that this isn't culturally evil concept the 666. so

culturally evil concept the 666. so

culturally evil concept the 666. so here's that letting you know would you

here's that letting you know would you

here's that letting you know would you like to continue and they you know

like to continue and they you know

like to continue and they you know because it's fun and you don't take it

because it's fun and you don't take it

because it's fun and you don't take it too seriously but yeah it moving around

too seriously but yeah it moving around

too seriously but yeah it moving around on its own and the city yeah I want to

on its own and the city yeah I want to

on its own and the city yeah I want to know obviously how how the story ended

know obviously how how the story ended

know obviously how how the story ended but like did it affect her down the road

but like did it affect her down the road

but like did it affect her down the road that's what I want to know too yeah how

that's what I want to know too yeah how

that's what I want to know too yeah how she dealt with it a fascinating story

she dealt with it a fascinating story

she dealt with it a fascinating story well thank you for that Heidi and

well thank you for that Heidi and

well thank you for that Heidi and definitely reach out if you hear this

definitely reach out if you hear this

definitely reach out if you hear this we'd like to hear the rest of that and

we'd like to hear the rest of that and

we'd like to hear the rest of that and how are you doing now what's next this

how are you doing now what's next this

how are you doing now what's next this next story is really good

next story is really good

next story is really good um this story comes out of plantersville

um this story comes out of plantersville

um this story comes out of plantersville Texas which is Northwest of Houston took

Texas which is Northwest of Houston took

Texas which is Northwest of Houston took place in Autumn of 2002 and this story

place in Autumn of 2002 and this story

place in Autumn of 2002 and this story is written very well very well to the

is written very well very well to the

is written very well very well to the point where I Googled lanessa Lane a

point where I Googled lanessa Lane a

point where I Googled lanessa Lane a listener vars who sent it in turns out

listener vars who sent it in turns out

listener vars who sent it in turns out she's an author she writes oh really

she's an author she writes oh really

she's an author she writes oh really Thrillers I think uh is it romance not

Thrillers I think uh is it romance not

Thrillers I think uh is it romance not romance Thrillers and that kind of thing

romance Thrillers and that kind of thing

romance Thrillers and that kind of thing oh cool New York Times bestseller which

oh cool New York Times bestseller which

oh cool New York Times bestseller which is awesome I feel honored yeah so when I

is awesome I feel honored yeah so when I

is awesome I feel honored yeah so when I read that I was like wow this sounds

read that I was like wow this sounds

read that I was like wow this sounds like someone who really knows how to

like someone who really knows how to

like someone who really knows how to write so when you read this know that it

write so when you read this know that it

write so when you read this know that it is apparently a story that actually

is apparently a story that actually

is apparently a story that actually happened to her but it's really well

happened to her but it's really well

happened to her but it's really well written because she is an author so she

written because she is an author so she

written because she is an author so she used her skills to do that because

used her skills to do that because

used her skills to do that because sometimes I'll read stories that are so

sometimes I'll read stories that are so

sometimes I'll read stories that are so written yeah it makes you question the

written yeah it makes you question the

written yeah it makes you question the reality exactly but apparently she just

reality exactly but apparently she just

reality exactly but apparently she just happens to be an actual author but this

happens to be an actual author but this

happens to be an actual author but this is a really good story all right let's

is a really good story all right let's

is a really good story all right let's hear what happened to lanessa I knew

hear what happened to lanessa I knew

hear what happened to lanessa I knew better I was raised to know the Bible

better I was raised to know the Bible

better I was raised to know the Bible warns us never to interact with the

warns us never to interact with the

warns us never to interact with the spiritual realm demons desperate to be

spiritual realm demons desperate to be

spiritual realm demons desperate to be once more among the living fill our

once more among the living fill our

once more among the living fill our hopeful Minds with tricks while evil

hopeful Minds with tricks while evil

hopeful Minds with tricks while evil flirts with a human long enough to be

flirts with a human long enough to be

flirts with a human long enough to be invited in

invited in

invited in foreign

[Applause]

[Applause] growing up in a God-fearing household

growing up in a God-fearing household

growing up in a God-fearing household I'd known better

I'd known better

I'd known better but Junior High Teens don't care about

but Junior High Teens don't care about

but Junior High Teens don't care about resisting temptation and they're also

resisting temptation and they're also

resisting temptation and they're also invincible

invincible

invincible sleepovers were much more fun when my

sleepovers were much more fun when my

sleepovers were much more fun when my besties and I stopped gushing over

besties and I stopped gushing over

besties and I stopped gushing over crushes and began dabbling with unseen

crushes and began dabbling with unseen

crushes and began dabbling with unseen forces

forces

forces pencils three each

pencils three each

pencils three each folded to make a U we held them in our

folded to make a U we held them in our

folded to make a U we held them in our hands and touched both views together

hands and touched both views together

hands and touched both views together at times nothing happened and pencils

at times nothing happened and pencils

at times nothing happened and pencils were as lifeless as they were when

were as lifeless as they were when

were as lifeless as they were when coloring dots on a Scantron

coloring dots on a Scantron

coloring dots on a Scantron other times the immediate pole on the

other times the immediate pole on the

other times the immediate pole on the wood connected like playing with magnets

wood connected like playing with magnets

wood connected like playing with magnets in science up down in out

in science up down in out

in science up down in out sometimes opposing directions like a

sometimes opposing directions like a

sometimes opposing directions like a maybe to one of our stupid questions

maybe to one of our stupid questions

maybe to one of our stupid questions the responses were so cool

the responses were so cool

the responses were so cool my best of Besties Maria and I would

my best of Besties Maria and I would

my best of Besties Maria and I would Goof Off watch movies music videos have

Goof Off watch movies music videos have

Goof Off watch movies music videos have girl talk but inevitably the pencils

girl talk but inevitably the pencils

girl talk but inevitably the pencils came out

came out

came out pull got stronger not on the pencils the

pull got stronger not on the pencils the

pull got stronger not on the pencils the pole for more like being in a

pole for more like being in a

pole for more like being in a relationship with a boy who mystified

relationship with a boy who mystified

relationship with a boy who mystified you

you

you you'd held hands kissed graduated to

you'd held hands kissed graduated to

you'd held hands kissed graduated to making out but now he wanted to go

making out but now he wanted to go

making out but now he wanted to go beneath your shirt

beneath your shirt

beneath your shirt should you let him

let's make a board one of us suggested I

let's make a board one of us suggested I couldn't remember which we were both

couldn't remember which we were both

couldn't remember which we were both nervous and excited about moving to

nervous and excited about moving to

nervous and excited about moving to spiritual second base out of what we

spiritual second base out of what we

spiritual second base out of what we don't have anything besides paper the

don't have anything besides paper the

don't have anything besides paper the other offered we looked around her messy

other offered we looked around her messy

other offered we looked around her messy room scattered with homework makeup

room scattered with homework makeup

room scattered with homework makeup clothing but the best we could do was a

clothing but the best we could do was a

clothing but the best we could do was a piece of printer paper from her mom's

piece of printer paper from her mom's

piece of printer paper from her mom's stash if those puzzles were good enough

stash if those puzzles were good enough

stash if those puzzles were good enough before it should be able to do this well

before it should be able to do this well

before it should be able to do this well one of us sad about drawing letters like

one of us sad about drawing letters like

one of us sad about drawing letters like a Ouija board the other found some

a Ouija board the other found some

a Ouija board the other found some cardboard and began cutting it into a

cardboard and began cutting it into a

cardboard and began cutting it into a triangle

triangle

triangle the hole wasn't easy

the hole wasn't easy

the hole wasn't easy and we'd had to bend the material to

and we'd had to bend the material to

and we'd had to bend the material to make a circle in the center

make a circle in the center

make a circle in the center it had an ugly crease when we were done

it had an ugly crease when we were done

it had an ugly crease when we were done you think it's your grandma I asked her

you think it's your grandma I asked her

you think it's your grandma I asked her she'd passed a few years back and we'd

she'd passed a few years back and we'd

she'd passed a few years back and we'd felt like the pencils had provided

felt like the pencils had provided

felt like the pencils had provided guiding responses of the maternal type

guiding responses of the maternal type

guiding responses of the maternal type Maria Shrugged and reached across her

Maria Shrugged and reached across her

Maria Shrugged and reached across her bed for a scarf her grandmother knitted

bed for a scarf her grandmother knitted

bed for a scarf her grandmother knitted for her I don't know but can we put this

for her I don't know but can we put this

for her I don't know but can we put this up here and find out

up here and find out

up here and find out see if she can knock it down to give us

see if she can knock it down to give us

see if she can knock it down to give us a sign

a sign

a sign Maria smiled and reached on her tiptoes

Maria smiled and reached on her tiptoes

Maria smiled and reached on her tiptoes for a shelf over her bed it was high and

for a shelf over her bed it was high and

for a shelf over her bed it was high and she had a struggle to push the cloth

she had a struggle to push the cloth

she had a struggle to push the cloth about 10 inches Back Against The Wall

about 10 inches Back Against The Wall

about 10 inches Back Against The Wall until the scarf looked like a purple

until the scarf looked like a purple

until the scarf looked like a purple snake settled in for a nap

snake settled in for a nap

snake settled in for a nap she wiped her Palms like she'd gotten

she wiped her Palms like she'd gotten

she wiped her Palms like she'd gotten dirty

dirty

dirty there

there

there candles

candles

candles sure good idea we lit three and placed

sure good idea we lit three and placed

sure good idea we lit three and placed them around the room then turned out the

them around the room then turned out the

them around the room then turned out the lights

we sat across from one another the

we sat across from one another the makeshift joke of a board between us

makeshift joke of a board between us

makeshift joke of a board between us the flimsy paper crinkled against the

the flimsy paper crinkled against the

the flimsy paper crinkled against the carpet so he placed her math book

carpet so he placed her math book

carpet so he placed her math book beneath the sheet then put two fingers

beneath the sheet then put two fingers

beneath the sheet then put two fingers from each hand to the cardboard we set

from each hand to the cardboard we set

from each hand to the cardboard we set in the blank space on the paper

in the blank space on the paper

in the blank space on the paper each of us released a breath in

each of us released a breath in

each of us released a breath in anticipation of the same familiar

anticipation of the same familiar

anticipation of the same familiar excitement

excitement

excitement if you want to ask the first question

if you want to ask the first question

if you want to ask the first question she nodded Intruder lower lip

she nodded Intruder lower lip

she nodded Intruder lower lip is this you Grandma

is this you Grandma

is this you Grandma her voice was low enough that those in

her voice was low enough that those in

her voice was low enough that those in the living room watching TV wouldn't

the living room watching TV wouldn't

the living room watching TV wouldn't hear us

hear us

hear us we looked down our fingers and felt

we looked down our fingers and felt

we looked down our fingers and felt nothing

nothing

nothing at all

at all

at all our excitement dashed like letting the

our excitement dashed like letting the

our excitement dashed like letting the air rush from a balloon

air rush from a balloon

air rush from a balloon let's try again

let's try again

let's try again we adjusted our posture as if we meant

we adjusted our posture as if we meant

we adjusted our posture as if we meant business what fools

business what fools

business what fools but somehow our demeanor did matter

but somehow our demeanor did matter

but somehow our demeanor did matter because the vibe in the room shifted

because the vibe in the room shifted

because the vibe in the room shifted like this quiet Spirit now watched with

like this quiet Spirit now watched with

like this quiet Spirit now watched with a wicked smirk thinking oh yeah you want

a wicked smirk thinking oh yeah you want

a wicked smirk thinking oh yeah you want to play that game gladly

to play that game gladly

to play that game gladly is anyone here with us I asked

is anyone here with us I asked

is anyone here with us I asked we sat with determination our fingers

we sat with determination our fingers

we sat with determination our fingers feeling nothing for passing seconds as

feeling nothing for passing seconds as

feeling nothing for passing seconds as we stubbornly waited neither of us broke

we stubbornly waited neither of us broke

we stubbornly waited neither of us broke the silence the candles flickered just a

the silence the candles flickered just a

the silence the candles flickered just a bit differently

bit differently

bit differently enough to make us feel the change

enough to make us feel the change

enough to make us feel the change our eyes meant like we'd succeeded at

our eyes meant like we'd succeeded at

our eyes meant like we'd succeeded at something but we looked back at our

something but we looked back at our

something but we looked back at our unmoving fingers

unmoving fingers

unmoving fingers only to realize they'd moved and were

only to realize they'd moved and were

only to realize they'd moved and were moving still

moving still

moving still millimeter by tiny millimeter we

millimeter by tiny millimeter we

millimeter by tiny millimeter we couldn't feel crawling like the slowest

couldn't feel crawling like the slowest

couldn't feel crawling like the slowest of insects toward the yes we'd printed

of insects toward the yes we'd printed

of insects toward the yes we'd printed I'm not doing that are you doing that I

I'm not doing that are you doing that I

I'm not doing that are you doing that I asked her almost willing her to be

asked her almost willing her to be

asked her almost willing her to be screwing with me no girl come on

screwing with me no girl come on

screwing with me no girl come on her skin prickled with Goosebumps at the

her skin prickled with Goosebumps at the

her skin prickled with Goosebumps at the same time and my scalp felt like every

same time and my scalp felt like every

same time and my scalp felt like every strand of hair became needles

strand of hair became needles

strand of hair became needles who is here with us what is your name

who is here with us what is your name

who is here with us what is your name Maria asked when we'd been patient

Maria asked when we'd been patient

Maria asked when we'd been patient enough to wait the two-minute trip over

enough to wait the two-minute trip over

enough to wait the two-minute trip over the answer we weren't foolish enough to

the answer we weren't foolish enough to

the answer we weren't foolish enough to get pissed at the spirit for taking so

get pissed at the spirit for taking so

get pissed at the spirit for taking so long after all we were interrupting

long after all we were interrupting

long after all we were interrupting their realm least we could do was be

their realm least we could do was be

their realm least we could do was be polite

polite

polite our eyes met once more and we were

our eyes met once more and we were

our eyes met once more and we were anxiously excited again when we looked

anxiously excited again when we looked

anxiously excited again when we looked down our triangle was relocating heading

down our triangle was relocating heading

down our triangle was relocating heading down at a snail's pace holding us in

down at a snail's pace holding us in

down at a snail's pace holding us in suspense I knew now looking back that

suspense I knew now looking back that

suspense I knew now looking back that the entity enjoyed control over us like

the entity enjoyed control over us like

the entity enjoyed control over us like a meal for its starving belly Never full

a meal for its starving belly Never full

a meal for its starving belly Never full always hungry

s we sat together

s we sat together we hyper focused as the triangle began

we hyper focused as the triangle began

we hyper focused as the triangle began the tedious trip to another letter

the tedious trip to another letter

the tedious trip to another letter handle sparked but our absorption was on

handle sparked but our absorption was on

handle sparked but our absorption was on the a we announced at the next Finish

the a we announced at the next Finish

the a we announced at the next Finish Line do you know anyone with those

Line do you know anyone with those

Line do you know anyone with those letters so far I asked

letters so far I asked

letters so far I asked because I don't

because I don't

because I don't hmm

hmm

hmm she looked far away in her mind digging

she looked far away in her mind digging

she looked far away in her mind digging for anything we could spin into a

for anything we could spin into a

for anything we could spin into a connection add a tea to that

connection add a tea to that

connection add a tea to that s-a-t the triangle crawled away while we

s-a-t the triangle crawled away while we

s-a-t the triangle crawled away while we sought a name we knew but nothing

sought a name we knew but nothing

sought a name we knew but nothing oh my gosh Maria gasped look

oh my gosh Maria gasped look

oh my gosh Maria gasped look pumps didn't have Jack on her horrifying

pumps didn't have Jack on her horrifying

pumps didn't have Jack on her horrifying donning

donning

donning triangle rolled over the a

triangle rolled over the a

triangle rolled over the a and got too close to the N for our

and got too close to the N for our

and got too close to the N for our liking unable to keep going we ripped

liking unable to keep going we ripped

liking unable to keep going we ripped our hands from the cardboard hell no it

our hands from the cardboard hell no it

our hands from the cardboard hell no it was only one of the things we sputtered

was only one of the things we sputtered

was only one of the things we sputtered in our Panic at once all three candles

in our Panic at once all three candles

in our Panic at once all three candles extinguished in a sudden gust of chilled

extinguished in a sudden gust of chilled

extinguished in a sudden gust of chilled air

air

air Maria and I lunged into each other's

Maria and I lunged into each other's

Maria and I lunged into each other's arms free hard loud knocks sounded Rock

arms free hard loud knocks sounded Rock

arms free hard loud knocks sounded Rock Solid on the door like the spirit had

Solid on the door like the spirit had

Solid on the door like the spirit had come for a foreboding visit

the hell we were calling the entity by

the hell we were calling the entity by its spelled out name that was only in

its spelled out name that was only in

its spelled out name that was only in the Bible right

the Bible right

the Bible right turn on the lights hurry I cried we

turn on the lights hurry I cried we

turn on the lights hurry I cried we scrambled together unwilling to untangle

scrambled together unwilling to untangle

scrambled together unwilling to untangle in the dark the board crunched beneath

in the dark the board crunched beneath

in the dark the board crunched beneath our feet

switch that blessedly illuminated the

switch that blessedly illuminated the room in an instant relief

room in an instant relief

room in an instant relief we clung together at the foot of her bed

we clung together at the foot of her bed

we clung together at the foot of her bed catching our breath

catching our breath

catching our breath we looked over in unison to see the

we looked over in unison to see the

we looked over in unison to see the scarf lying on her pillow

scarf lying on her pillow

scarf lying on her pillow let's get out of here I nodded an

let's get out of here I nodded an

let's get out of here I nodded an agreement we released each other and

agreement we released each other and

agreement we released each other and jolted for the door I wrapped my arms

jolted for the door I wrapped my arms

jolted for the door I wrapped my arms over my chest unable to get warm enough

over my chest unable to get warm enough

over my chest unable to get warm enough even though East Texas and Autumn is

even though East Texas and Autumn is

even though East Texas and Autumn is still in the 90s we could have jumped in

still in the 90s we could have jumped in

still in the 90s we could have jumped in her pool in the front yard right now if

her pool in the front yard right now if

her pool in the front yard right now if we wanted but I needed a coat if the

we wanted but I needed a coat if the

we wanted but I needed a coat if the Country Wasn't pitch black after the sun

Country Wasn't pitch black after the sun

Country Wasn't pitch black after the sun went down the outside heat would have

went down the outside heat would have

went down the outside heat would have been soothing

been soothing

been soothing we tried not to run into the living room

we tried not to run into the living room

we tried not to run into the living room so her parents wouldn't know anything

so her parents wouldn't know anything

so her parents wouldn't know anything was wrong did anyone knock on my door

was wrong did anyone knock on my door

was wrong did anyone knock on my door just now Maria demanded probably a

just now Maria demanded probably a

just now Maria demanded probably a little disrespectful her parents looked

little disrespectful her parents looked

little disrespectful her parents looked up like they hadn't realized we'd come

up like they hadn't realized we'd come

up like they hadn't realized we'd come into the room

into the room

into the room then they looked like we were crazy and

then they looked like we were crazy and

then they looked like we were crazy and shook their heads

shook their heads

shook their heads if we tried to sleep on the floor out

if we tried to sleep on the floor out

if we tried to sleep on the floor out there they'd know something was wrong we

there they'd know something was wrong we

there they'd know something was wrong we never hung around them unless they

never hung around them unless they

never hung around them unless they forced us to we lingered in the shallow

forced us to we lingered in the shallow

forced us to we lingered in the shallow hallway looking at her partially opened

hallway looking at her partially opened

hallway looking at her partially opened door

door

door the light was still on innocent enough

the light was still on innocent enough

the light was still on innocent enough yet now her room seemed nothing like the

yet now her room seemed nothing like the

yet now her room seemed nothing like the one we'd always played makeup and nail

one we'd always played makeup and nail

one we'd always played makeup and nail salon in now that door looked like a

salon in now that door looked like a

salon in now that door looked like a sneaky Beast it was beckoning from

sneaky Beast it was beckoning from

sneaky Beast it was beckoning from behind it with a curling claw come here

behind it with a curling claw come here

behind it with a curling claw come here little girls I won't hurt you want some

little girls I won't hurt you want some

little girls I won't hurt you want some candy

candy

candy Just a Little Closer

though he'd been Inseparable for years

though he'd been Inseparable for years after that night things were never the

after that night things were never the

after that night things were never the same between us a lot of drama

same between us a lot of drama

same between us a lot of drama distracted us we hurt one another in

distracted us we hurt one another in

distracted us we hurt one another in ways that were unthinking and two-faced

ways that were unthinking and two-faced

ways that were unthinking and two-faced until now I'd never connected the cause

until now I'd never connected the cause

until now I'd never connected the cause though he'd burned that board and never

though he'd burned that board and never

though he'd burned that board and never picked up another set of pencils the

picked up another set of pencils the

picked up another set of pencils the damage was done the evil was there and

damage was done the evil was there and

damage was done the evil was there and the spirit didn't need us to reach out

the spirit didn't need us to reach out

the spirit didn't need us to reach out to it any longer we'd invited the

to it any longer we'd invited the

to it any longer we'd invited the vampire in to take its meal over a long

vampire in to take its meal over a long

vampire in to take its meal over a long period of time

as I looked into the mirror of my new

as I looked into the mirror of my new bathroom

bathroom

bathroom three inexplicable scratches marred my

three inexplicable scratches marred my

three inexplicable scratches marred my armpit and I knew even now 20 years into

armpit and I knew even now 20 years into

armpit and I knew even now 20 years into adulthood that evil spirit still

adulthood that evil spirit still

adulthood that evil spirit still followed me wherever I went

followed me wherever I went

followed me wherever I went dabbing ointment on the most recent

dabbing ointment on the most recent

dabbing ointment on the most recent attack I thought of Maria and couldn't

attack I thought of Maria and couldn't

attack I thought of Maria and couldn't help wondering what kind of attacks she

help wondering what kind of attacks she

help wondering what kind of attacks she still had to contend with as well

still had to contend with as well

still had to contend with as well foreign

foreign

foreign [Music]

not prepared for it whether you can be

not prepared for it whether you can be at all there's this potential for

at all there's this potential for

at all there's this potential for something to just two other stories like

something to just two other stories like

something to just two other stories like that where it seems to really distance

that where it seems to really distance

that where it seems to really distance people yeah like it it seems to feed off

people yeah like it it seems to feed off

people yeah like it it seems to feed off the trauma and the separation the

the trauma and the separation the

the trauma and the separation the breaking apart of relationships and

breaking apart of relationships and

breaking apart of relationships and families it seems like that's what

families it seems like that's what

families it seems like that's what demons like to do or dark Spirits like

demons like to do or dark Spirits like

demons like to do or dark Spirits like to break people apart hey Demon's gotta

to break people apart hey Demon's gotta

to break people apart hey Demon's gotta eat right it's just demon food start for

eat right it's just demon food start for

eat right it's just demon food start for ghouls we say it a lot star of your

ghouls we say it a lot star of your

ghouls we say it a lot star of your ghouls people that one part to me stood

ghouls people that one part to me stood

ghouls people that one part to me stood out too where they're looking back at

out too where they're looking back at

out too where they're looking back at the door that room that used to be just

the door that room that used to be just

the door that room that used to be just a room that they spent so much time in

a room that they spent so much time in

a room that they spent so much time in and now it's the right it's probably

and now it's the right it's probably

and now it's the right it's probably that feeling we experience that heavy

that feeling we experience that heavy

that feeling we experience that heavy sensation like the reality just around

sensation like the reality just around

sensation like the reality just around you the atmosphere just changes yeah it

you the atmosphere just changes yeah it

you the atmosphere just changes yeah it just feels different

just feels different

just feels different yeah interesting story yeah thank you so

yeah interesting story yeah thank you so

yeah interesting story yeah thank you so much for that lanessa lanessa lane great

much for that lanessa lanessa lane great

much for that lanessa lanessa lane great story well written

so Heidi's story

so Heidi's story came in she got my message hey we got an

came in she got my message hey we got an

came in she got my message hey we got an ending to Heidi's story it is here the

ending to Heidi's story it is here the

ending to Heidi's story it is here the end of her harrowing Tale the conclusion

end of her harrowing Tale the conclusion

end of her harrowing Tale the conclusion Let's Hear It Up

Let's Hear It Up

Let's Hear It Up hi guys this is Heidi Again part two I

hi guys this is Heidi Again part two I

hi guys this is Heidi Again part two I am so sorry that I didn't send this to

am so sorry that I didn't send this to

am so sorry that I didn't send this to you sooner

you sooner

you sooner um time just got away from me and I hope

um time just got away from me and I hope

um time just got away from me and I hope you get the rest of this in time for

you get the rest of this in time for

you get the rest of this in time for your recording because it stopped right

your recording because it stopped right

your recording because it stopped right before the best part glad she's okay so

before the best part glad she's okay so

before the best part glad she's okay so my best friend and I were using the

my best friend and I were using the

my best friend and I were using the Ouija board that we made ourselves with

Ouija board that we made ourselves with

Ouija board that we made ourselves with the blender top we're sneaking around

the blender top we're sneaking around

the blender top we're sneaking around using it because

using it because

using it because um we was at my friend's house and her

um we was at my friend's house and her

um we was at my friend's house and her mother didn't want us to use it anymore

mother didn't want us to use it anymore

mother didn't want us to use it anymore and it started the planchette quote plan

and it started the planchette quote plan

and it started the planchette quote plan chat blender top started flying around

chat blender top started flying around

chat blender top started flying around the board and again it would go 666

the board and again it would go 666

the board and again it would go 666 really fast and then it would start

really fast and then it would start

really fast and then it would start spelling things out and it would Circle

spelling things out and it would Circle

spelling things out and it would Circle so fast we couldn't even keep our

so fast we couldn't even keep our

so fast we couldn't even keep our fingers on it and well the last time we

fingers on it and well the last time we

fingers on it and well the last time we played with the board it said

played with the board it said

played with the board it said Satan rules Heidi and Michelle and dead

Satan rules Heidi and Michelle and dead

Satan rules Heidi and Michelle and dead people

and it spelled out that sentence with

and it spelled out that sentence with lightning speed that's not terrifying

lightning speed that's not terrifying

lightning speed that's not terrifying John right and my best friend and I took

John right and my best friend and I took

John right and my best friend and I took our fingers off the plan chat and just

our fingers off the plan chat and just

our fingers off the plan chat and just stared at each other in shock and Terror

stared at each other in shock and Terror

stared at each other in shock and Terror and ripped up the cardboard board that

and ripped up the cardboard board that

and ripped up the cardboard board that we had made with cardboard and Sharpie

we had made with cardboard and Sharpie

we had made with cardboard and Sharpie and the blender top back on the blender

and the blender top back on the blender

and the blender top back on the blender and we I don't know about her but never

and we I don't know about her but never

and we I don't know about her but never touched a Ouija board again for the rest

touched a Ouija board again for the rest

touched a Ouija board again for the rest of my life

I have told my kids about this story I

I have told my kids about this story I warned them to never ever touch a Ouija

warned them to never ever touch a Ouija

warned them to never ever touch a Ouija board I believe it is some sort of

board I believe it is some sort of

board I believe it is some sort of portal to something evil and once you

portal to something evil and once you

portal to something evil and once you open it up sometimes I think there's no

open it up sometimes I think there's no

open it up sometimes I think there's no way to close it and uh some weird stuff

way to close it and uh some weird stuff

way to close it and uh some weird stuff happened to me after I stopped using the

happened to me after I stopped using the

happened to me after I stopped using the Ouija board

Ouija board

Ouija board EST thing is I was home alone there was

EST thing is I was home alone there was

EST thing is I was home alone there was a thunderstorm

my parents were at work it was probably

my parents were at work it was probably a couple months maybe a month after we

a couple months maybe a month after we

a couple months maybe a month after we stopped using the Ouija board and I was

stopped using the Ouija board and I was

stopped using the Ouija board and I was um I was putting some makeup on it my

um I was putting some makeup on it my

um I was putting some makeup on it my makeup mirror lighted makeup mirror and

makeup mirror lighted makeup mirror and

makeup mirror lighted makeup mirror and I reached out but kind of scratched my

I reached out but kind of scratched my

I reached out but kind of scratched my forehead and I looked down there was

forehead and I looked down there was

forehead and I looked down there was just a little bit of blood on the tips

just a little bit of blood on the tips

just a little bit of blood on the tips of my fingers and I thought what's that

of my fingers and I thought what's that

of my fingers and I thought what's that I thought maybe I scratched a mosquito

I thought maybe I scratched a mosquito

I thought maybe I scratched a mosquito bite or something

bite or something

bite or something so I lifted up my bangs and I looked and

so I lifted up my bangs and I looked and

so I lifted up my bangs and I looked and there on my forehead top of my forehead

there on my forehead top of my forehead

there on my forehead top of my forehead and the hairline was a perfect six

and the hairline was a perfect six

and the hairline was a perfect six in blood

and of school of course it scared the

and of school of course it scared the bejesus out of me

bejesus out of me

bejesus out of me and I went to an aunt of mine who was an

and I went to an aunt of mine who was an

and I went to an aunt of mine who was an extremely devout Christian born again

extremely devout Christian born again

extremely devout Christian born again Christian and I asked her to do a ritual

Christian and I asked her to do a ritual

Christian and I asked her to do a ritual pray over me and all of that kind of

pray over me and all of that kind of

pray over me and all of that kind of thing and she did and nothing else ever

thing and she did and nothing else ever

thing and she did and nothing else ever happened again

happened again

happened again knock on wood but the moral of that

knock on wood but the moral of that

knock on wood but the moral of that story is you know you're contacting

story is you know you're contacting

story is you know you're contacting something when you use a Ouija board and

something when you use a Ouija board and

something when you use a Ouija board and maybe it's something that's better left

maybe it's something that's better left

maybe it's something that's better left alone

alone

alone so anyways you guys are awesome best

so anyways you guys are awesome best

so anyways you guys are awesome best paranormal podcast by far thanks bye

paranormal podcast by far thanks bye

paranormal podcast by far thanks bye that is terrifying yeah crazy heavy

that is terrifying yeah crazy heavy

that is terrifying yeah crazy heavy stuff she's right though yeah you don't

stuff she's right though yeah you don't

stuff she's right though yeah you don't know what you're getting on the other

know what you're getting on the other

know what you're getting on the other side that's the second that would be

side that's the second that would be

side that's the second that would be scary as a kid too yeah awful oh dude

scary as a kid too yeah awful oh dude

scary as a kid too yeah awful oh dude traumatizing yeah it's the second Satan

traumatizing yeah it's the second Satan

traumatizing yeah it's the second Satan one we had in there he's a busy guy evil

one we had in there he's a busy guy evil

one we had in there he's a busy guy evil even if it's not the Satan I mean it's

even if it's not the Satan I mean it's

even if it's not the Satan I mean it's obviously something dark that wants to

obviously something dark that wants to

obviously something dark that wants to freak you out yeah you know well and

freak you out yeah you know well and

freak you out yeah you know well and then the etching of the six on her

then the etching of the six on her

then the etching of the six on her forehead that's pretty dark dude well

forehead that's pretty dark dude well

forehead that's pretty dark dude well that's where the mark of the beast goes

that's where the mark of the beast goes

that's where the mark of the beast goes right isn't on the forehead that's true

right isn't on the forehead that's true

right isn't on the forehead that's true I didn't think about that biblically

I didn't think about that biblically

I didn't think about that biblically speaking anyway whatever it is freaky

speaking anyway whatever it is freaky

speaking anyway whatever it is freaky that's definitely the most vicious one

that's definitely the most vicious one

that's definitely the most vicious one that we had story wise I'm just glad it

that we had story wise I'm just glad it

that we had story wise I'm just glad it didn't mess up her entire right life

didn't mess up her entire right life

didn't mess up her entire right life yeah I know interestingly Heidi actually

yeah I know interestingly Heidi actually

yeah I know interestingly Heidi actually followed up in her email with a little

followed up in her email with a little

followed up in her email with a little anecdote that I found pretty compelling

anecdote that I found pretty compelling

anecdote that I found pretty compelling which explains that she's still friends

which explains that she's still friends

which explains that she's still friends she's been friends with this girl for

she's been friends with this girl for

she's been friends with this girl for the last 40 years or so and apparently

the last 40 years or so and apparently

the last 40 years or so and apparently she's asked her multiple times whether

she's asked her multiple times whether

she's asked her multiple times whether or not she was moving the planchette

or not she was moving the planchette

or not she was moving the planchette whether it was all practical joke on her

whether it was all practical joke on her

whether it was all practical joke on her she said she even asked her after her

she said she even asked her after her

she said she even asked her after her friend had been drunk you know in Vitae

friend had been drunk you know in Vitae

friend had been drunk you know in Vitae Veritas where she may have told the

Veritas where she may have told the

Veritas where she may have told the truth uh with the influence of alcohol

truth uh with the influence of alcohol

truth uh with the influence of alcohol but even then she always claimed that

but even then she always claimed that

but even then she always claimed that she was just as scared as she wasn't

she was just as scared as she wasn't

she was just as scared as she wasn't freaked out she's never admitted to this

freaked out she's never admitted to this

freaked out she's never admitted to this in 40 years that she was the moving the

in 40 years that she was the moving the

in 40 years that she was the moving the planchette so if she wasn't moving

planchette so if she wasn't moving

planchette so if she wasn't moving planchette and Heidi wasn't moving the

planchette and Heidi wasn't moving the

planchette and Heidi wasn't moving the plan chat yeah and it wasn't a micro

plan chat yeah and it wasn't a micro

plan chat yeah and it wasn't a micro movement of the psyche than he was

movement of the psyche than he was

movement of the psyche than he was creepy creepy stuff yeah creepy and

creepy creepy stuff yeah creepy and

creepy creepy stuff yeah creepy and compelling I was actually going I wanted

compelling I was actually going I wanted

compelling I was actually going I wanted to record some actual Ouija board sounds

to record some actual Ouija board sounds

to record some actual Ouija board sounds but I don't I'm not going to there you

but I don't I'm not going to there you

but I don't I'm not going to there you go we got a board right here we can just

go we got a board right here we can just

go we got a board right here we can just get a Monopoly board and use the Flinch

get a Monopoly board and use the Flinch

get a Monopoly board and use the Flinch I know it'd be the same thing sound wise

I know it'd be the same thing sound wise

I know it'd be the same thing sound wise every scraping of that a spirit would

every scraping of that a spirit would

every scraping of that a spirit would release and then it would catch in the

release and then it would catch in the

release and then it would catch in the microphone

microphone

microphone VPS of evil who may not say get EVPs

VPS of evil who may not say get EVPs

VPS of evil who may not say get EVPs it's like a scratch and sniff you take

it's like a scratch and sniff you take

it's like a scratch and sniff you take the plant that it's dumb that's really

the plant that it's dumb that's really

the plant that it's dumb that's really bad as my Ed joke in the expansion yeah

bad as my Ed joke in the expansion yeah

bad as my Ed joke in the expansion yeah but that was kind of creative right no

but that was kind of creative right no

but that was kind of creative right no okay anyways I did my best yes thank you

okay anyways I did my best yes thank you

okay anyways I did my best yes thank you for uh sending the rest of that in yeah

for uh sending the rest of that in yeah

for uh sending the rest of that in yeah thanks for letting us know you're okay

thanks for letting us know you're okay

thanks for letting us know you're okay Heidi and the Ouija board did not

Heidi and the Ouija board did not

Heidi and the Ouija board did not consume you and thank you for the lovely

consume you and thank you for the lovely

consume you and thank you for the lovely compliment yeah it was very sweet

compliment yeah it was very sweet

compliment yeah it was very sweet yeah great stories today

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oh and one incredible story I found of a

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civil war Colonel who claimed to have a run-in with three inhuman beings in the

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the first European to come across the mind-bending Vista of what would become

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[Music]

[Music] access granted

access granted

access granted or not for the fact that I was not alone

or not for the fact that I was not alone

or not for the fact that I was not alone when I witnessed the strange sight I

when I witnessed the strange sight I

when I witnessed the strange sight I would have never mentioned it at all

would have never mentioned it at all

would have never mentioned it at all Wednesday afternoon I went out to Lodi

Wednesday afternoon I went out to Lodi

Wednesday afternoon I went out to Lodi and Lockeford and Company with Camille

and Lockeford and Company with Camille

and Lockeford and Company with Camille Spooner a young man recently arrived

Spooner a young man recently arrived

Spooner a young man recently arrived from Nevada

from Nevada

from Nevada I went to the places mentioned in quest

I went to the places mentioned in quest

I went to the places mentioned in quest of material to form an exhibit to

of material to form an exhibit to

of material to form an exhibit to represent this County at the Fresno

represent this County at the Fresno

represent this County at the Fresno citrus fair

citrus fair

citrus fair we left Lodi on the return trip should

we left Lodi on the return trip should

we left Lodi on the return trip should judge shortly before six o'clock and we

judge shortly before six o'clock and we

judge shortly before six o'clock and we were jogging along quietly when the

were jogging along quietly when the

were jogging along quietly when the horse stopped suddenly and gave a snort

horse stopped suddenly and gave a snort

horse stopped suddenly and gave a snort of Terror

of Terror

of Terror foreign

looking up We beheld Three Strange

looking up We beheld Three Strange beings they resembled humans in many

beings they resembled humans in many

beings they resembled humans in many respects but still they were not like

respects but still they were not like

respects but still they were not like anything I had ever seen

anything I had ever seen

anything I had ever seen they were nearly required seven feet

they were nearly required seven feet

they were nearly required seven feet high and very slender

high and very slender

high and very slender we were both somewhat startled as you

we were both somewhat startled as you

we were both somewhat startled as you may readily imagine and the first

may readily imagine and the first

may readily imagine and the first impulse was to drive on

impulse was to drive on

impulse was to drive on the horse however refused the budge and

the horse however refused the budge and

the horse however refused the budge and when we saw that we were being regarded

when we saw that we were being regarded

when we saw that we were being regarded more with an air of curiosity than

more with an air of curiosity than

more with an air of curiosity than anything else we included to get out and

anything else we included to get out and

anything else we included to get out and investigate

investigate

investigate I walked up to where the strange looking

I walked up to where the strange looking

I walked up to where the strange looking persons were and addressed them I asked

persons were and addressed them I asked

persons were and addressed them I asked where they were from

where they were from

where they were from they seem not to understand me

they seem not to understand me

they seem not to understand me but began well warbling expresses it

but began well warbling expresses it

but began well warbling expresses it better than talking

their remarks if such he would call them

their remarks if such he would call them were addressed to each other and sounded

were addressed to each other and sounded

were addressed to each other and sounded like a monotonous chant inclined to be

like a monotonous chant inclined to be

like a monotonous chant inclined to be guttural

guttural

guttural [Music]

I saw it was no use to attempt a

I saw it was no use to attempt a conversation so I satisfied myself with

conversation so I satisfied myself with

conversation so I satisfied myself with watching and examining them

watching and examining them

watching and examining them they seem to take great interest in

they seem to take great interest in

they seem to take great interest in ourselves the horse and buggy and

ourselves the horse and buggy and

ourselves the horse and buggy and scrutinized everything very carefully

scrutinized everything very carefully

scrutinized everything very carefully [Music]

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[Music] welcome back divers deep of the hole

welcome back divers deep of the hole

welcome back divers deep of the hole diver is deep yes welcome in splashy

diver is deep yes welcome in splashy

diver is deep yes welcome in splashy Splash Swim where the waters are warm

Splash Swim where the waters are warm

Splash Swim where the waters are warm hope you got your candles lit and your

hope you got your candles lit and your

hope you got your candles lit and your salsa splayed on the floor are those

salsa splayed on the floor are those

salsa splayed on the floor are those can't are those lanterns actually lit no

can't are those lanterns actually lit no

can't are those lanterns actually lit no they're are they really realistic LEDs

they're are they really realistic LEDs

they're are they really realistic LEDs oh wow yeah they're flamey LEDs I want

oh wow yeah they're flamey LEDs I want

oh wow yeah they're flamey LEDs I want to get more they look like old lanterns

to get more they look like old lanterns

to get more they look like old lanterns that are being powered by whale oil well

that are being powered by whale oil well

that are being powered by whale oil well yeah well blubber soon you guys will see

yeah well blubber soon you guys will see

yeah well blubber soon you guys will see our flashy lanterns in our new studio

our flashy lanterns in our new studio

our flashy lanterns in our new studio soon I tell you live stream live stream

soon I tell you live stream live stream

soon I tell you live stream live stream it's a cool space there he is it very is

it's a cool space there he is it very is

it's a cool space there he is it very is old space

old space

old space 1876 1876 Pick Up Sticks we did tell

1876 1876 Pick Up Sticks we did tell

1876 1876 Pick Up Sticks we did tell them is it Model T place right they used

them is it Model T place right they used

them is it Model T place right they used to sell Model T Fords out of this space

to sell Model T Fords out of this space

to sell Model T Fords out of this space just so weird to think about yeah that

just so weird to think about yeah that

just so weird to think about yeah that must have been a wall not there at one

must have been a wall not there at one

must have been a wall not there at one point I'd have to have to have it be

point I'd have to have to have it be

point I'd have to have to have it be open to fit them all in here yeah anyway

open to fit them all in here yeah anyway

open to fit them all in here yeah anyway anyway strange a mysterious place

anyway strange a mysterious place

anyway strange a mysterious place um we couldn't have done it without any

um we couldn't have done it without any

um we couldn't have done it without any you guys though thanks for listening

you guys though thanks for listening

you guys though thanks for listening thank you to the listeners making our

thank you to the listeners making our

thank you to the listeners making our dreams come true giving the hole a home

dreams come true giving the hole a home

dreams come true giving the hole a home yes yes well back to our Ouija board the

yes yes well back to our Ouija board the

yes yes well back to our Ouija board the world of Luigi it can definitely be a

world of Luigi it can definitely be a

world of Luigi it can definitely be a dangerous thing we've established that

dangerous thing we've established that

dangerous thing we've established that but even in a matter of law more law

but even in a matter of law more law

but even in a matter of law more law bird law we got some bird law here no

bird law we got some bird law here no

bird law we got some bird law here no just an interesting anecdote did you

just an interesting anecdote did you

just an interesting anecdote did you know John that the Ouija board was once

know John that the Ouija board was once

know John that the Ouija board was once used to convict someone what do you mean

used to convict someone what do you mean

used to convict someone what do you mean like the jury used it apparently there

like the jury used it apparently there

like the jury used it apparently there was a hung jury pun intended this was

was a hung jury pun intended this was

was a hung jury pun intended this was like 1994 by the name of Stephen young

like 1994 by the name of Stephen young

like 1994 by the name of Stephen young was on trial and they couldn't decide in

was on trial and they couldn't decide in

was on trial and they couldn't decide in a handful of the jurors stayed up late

a handful of the jurors stayed up late

a handful of the jurors stayed up late at night after everyone else went to bed

at night after everyone else went to bed

at night after everyone else went to bed used a makeshift board and an upside

used a makeshift board and an upside

used a makeshift board and an upside down glass of wine for the planchette

down glass of wine for the planchette

down glass of wine for the planchette what and supposedly they got in contact

what and supposedly they got in contact

what and supposedly they got in contact with the person who was killed the

with the person who was killed the

with the person who was killed the victim they asked him who did it and he

victim they asked him who did it and he

victim they asked him who did it and he said he spelled out Stephen young done

said he spelled out Stephen young done

said he spelled out Stephen young done it and they said how should we find

it and they said how should we find

it and they said how should we find tomorrow the verdict and he came back

tomorrow the verdict and he came back

tomorrow the verdict and he came back allegedly saying

allegedly saying

allegedly saying find him guilty and they did and this

find him guilty and they did and this

find him guilty and they did and this didn't come out until months after the

didn't come out until months after the

didn't come out until months after the trial closed oh crazy did they was he

trial closed oh crazy did they was he

trial closed oh crazy did they was he acquitted uh no I'm not exactly sure but

acquitted uh no I'm not exactly sure but

acquitted uh no I'm not exactly sure but it led to like the biggest trial of jury

it led to like the biggest trial of jury

it led to like the biggest trial of jury misconduct oh yeah up until that time

misconduct oh yeah up until that time

misconduct oh yeah up until that time because yeah essentially you're

because yeah essentially you're

because yeah essentially you're Consulting with the spirits to figure

Consulting with the spirits to figure

Consulting with the spirits to figure out if this guy's guilty or not gonna go

out if this guy's guilty or not gonna go

out if this guy's guilty or not gonna go with that um and who knows who you're

with that um and who knows who you're

with that um and who knows who you're talking to might not have been the

talking to might not have been the

talking to might not have been the victim I just thought that was really

victim I just thought that was really

victim I just thought that was really interesting that was back in 94. 1994

interesting that was back in 94. 1994

interesting that was back in 94. 1994 yeah that's bizarre I feel like maybe

yeah that's bizarre I feel like maybe

yeah that's bizarre I feel like maybe like 1810 yeah really yeah right crazy

like 1810 yeah really yeah right crazy

like 1810 yeah really yeah right crazy over in Britain land crazy stuff what

over in Britain land crazy stuff what

over in Britain land crazy stuff what was our next story

was our next story

was our next story this is a rather sad story and it

this is a rather sad story and it

this is a rather sad story and it follows in line with the through line

follows in line with the through line

follows in line with the through line we've been hearing about the darkness

we've been hearing about the darkness

we've been hearing about the darkness the separation the things that can

the separation the things that can

the separation the things that can happen this is called it stole my sister

happen this is called it stole my sister

happen this is called it stole my sister and our listener who wrote in shared the

and our listener who wrote in shared the

and our listener who wrote in shared the story with us we know her name but she

story with us we know her name but she

story with us we know her name but she wishes to remain anonymous this also

wishes to remain anonymous this also

wishes to remain anonymous this also comes from Massachusetts home of the

comes from Massachusetts home of the

comes from Massachusetts home of the there it is Ouija board company oddly

there it is Ouija board company oddly

there it is Ouija board company oddly enough the occulted Parker brother

enough the occulted Parker brother

enough the occulted Parker brother company this occurred over a period of

company this occurred over a period of

company this occurred over a period of years

this is the first and most likely last

this is the first and most likely last time I will ever tell the story

time I will ever tell the story

time I will ever tell the story I've always been fascinated by the

I've always been fascinated by the

I've always been fascinated by the occult and how mysterious the world

occult and how mysterious the world

occult and how mysterious the world around us can be

around us can be

around us can be so one Christmas when I was a teenager

so one Christmas when I was a teenager

so one Christmas when I was a teenager my father gave me a Ouija board as a

my father gave me a Ouija board as a

my father gave me a Ouija board as a present

present

present I wasn't very interested in the thing

I wasn't very interested in the thing

I wasn't very interested in the thing honestly but my younger sister was

honestly but my younger sister was

honestly but my younger sister was she ended up stealing it and going off

she ended up stealing it and going off

she ended up stealing it and going off and using it by herself

and using it by herself

and using it by herself she was only a kid at the time so she

she was only a kid at the time so she

she was only a kid at the time so she didn't know better

didn't know better

didn't know better and I didn't believe they were as

and I didn't believe they were as

and I didn't believe they were as dangerous as people say

it started as little things an object

it started as little things an object would go missing and we'd tear up the

would go missing and we'd tear up the

would go missing and we'd tear up the apartment looking only to find it in the

apartment looking only to find it in the

apartment looking only to find it in the middle of a room we had previously

middle of a room we had previously

middle of a room we had previously searched

searched

searched my sister began to have nightmares and

my sister began to have nightmares and

my sister began to have nightmares and express fear I thought she was just

express fear I thought she was just

express fear I thought she was just being a little kid with an imagination

being a little kid with an imagination

being a little kid with an imagination she would go stay at her dad's house on

she would go stay at her dad's house on

she would go stay at her dad's house on the weekends since my room was in the

the weekends since my room was in the

the weekends since my room was in the basement it would get cold and I would

basement it would get cold and I would

basement it would get cold and I would go sleep in her room when she was gone

one night I settled down on her bed and

one night I settled down on her bed and began to doze off

began to doze off

began to doze off when suddenly I was woken up by

when suddenly I was woken up by

when suddenly I was woken up by scratching and banging from the inside

scratching and banging from the inside

scratching and banging from the inside of her closet

I laid there for minutes listening and

I laid there for minutes listening and trying to process what was happening

trying to process what was happening

trying to process what was happening that's when I noticed she had barricaded

that's when I noticed she had barricaded

that's when I noticed she had barricaded the closet so whatever it was couldn't

the closet so whatever it was couldn't

the closet so whatever it was couldn't get out

get out

get out [Music]

[Music]

[Music] needless to say I went back to my

needless to say I went back to my

needless to say I went back to my basement room to sleep

basement room to sleep

basement room to sleep this entity terrorized my sister to the

this entity terrorized my sister to the

this entity terrorized my sister to the extreme and when I look back I can't

extreme and when I look back I can't

extreme and when I look back I can't help but blame myself for having the

help but blame myself for having the

help but blame myself for having the board in the first place

board in the first place

board in the first place my mom tried hanging crosses on her door

my mom tried hanging crosses on her door

my mom tried hanging crosses on her door hanging dream catchers and most

hanging dream catchers and most

hanging dream catchers and most regrettably she broke the board in two

regrettably she broke the board in two

regrettably she broke the board in two and threw it away

my sister would tell me she would hear

my sister would tell me she would hear someone crying and walking around late

someone crying and walking around late

someone crying and walking around late at night in the basement

I never heard or saw it

I never heard or saw it [Music]

[Music]

[Music] eventually we grew up and both went our

eventually we grew up and both went our

eventually we grew up and both went our own ways

own ways

own ways but the entity never left my sister

but the entity never left my sister

but the entity never left my sister alone

alone

alone [Music]

[Music]

[Music] we used to be so close to an unheard of

we used to be so close to an unheard of

we used to be so close to an unheard of extent in siblings we never fought

extent in siblings we never fought

extent in siblings we never fought when my grandmother passed We inherited

when my grandmother passed We inherited

when my grandmother passed We inherited her home the house we grew up in I saged

her home the house we grew up in I saged

her home the house we grew up in I saged and purified the space but before I did

and purified the space but before I did

and purified the space but before I did I could sense something was trying to

I could sense something was trying to

I could sense something was trying to work its way in

work its way in

work its way in [Music]

then my twins were born and I made sure

then my twins were born and I made sure that thing could not come anywhere near

that thing could not come anywhere near

that thing could not come anywhere near my home

my home

my home I decided I wanted to help my sister and

I decided I wanted to help my sister and

I decided I wanted to help my sister and rid her of it because of my guilt but I

rid her of it because of my guilt but I

rid her of it because of my guilt but I knew I couldn't unless she was ready and

knew I couldn't unless she was ready and

knew I couldn't unless she was ready and really wanted to

really wanted to

really wanted to the things started going to my sister as

the things started going to my sister as

the things started going to my sister as my grandmother and telling her lies to

my grandmother and telling her lies to

my grandmother and telling her lies to pull us apart

pull us apart

pull us apart it used our dysfunctional narcissistic

it used our dysfunctional narcissistic

it used our dysfunctional narcissistic living family members and my sister's

living family members and my sister's

living family members and my sister's fear to pull us apart and now we no

fear to pull us apart and now we no

fear to pull us apart and now we no longer speak

longer speak

longer speak she doesn't know my children she's met

she doesn't know my children she's met

she doesn't know my children she's met them once since they were born

them once since they were born

them once since they were born they just started kindergarten I am full

they just started kindergarten I am full

they just started kindergarten I am full of regrets and sadness because before my

of regrets and sadness because before my

of regrets and sadness because before my kids she was everything to me

kids she was everything to me

kids she was everything to me and I keep picturing the beautiful

and I keep picturing the beautiful

and I keep picturing the beautiful little girl she was

little girl she was

little girl she was and I can't even put into words the pain

and I can't even put into words the pain

and I can't even put into words the pain of losing her and seeing her become a

of losing her and seeing her become a

of losing her and seeing her become a different person

different person

different person since the cleansing

since the cleansing

since the cleansing the demon has only come once to me in a

the demon has only come once to me in a

the demon has only come once to me in a dream to taunt me about its success in

dream to taunt me about its success in

dream to taunt me about its success in convincing my sister that it is indeed

convincing my sister that it is indeed

convincing my sister that it is indeed my grandmother reaching out to her from

my grandmother reaching out to her from

my grandmother reaching out to her from Beyond

Beyond

Beyond I was able to protect myself and my

I was able to protect myself and my

I was able to protect myself and my little family but I also failed her

little family but I also failed her

little family but I also failed her I know it wouldn't change my mind back

I know it wouldn't change my mind back

I know it wouldn't change my mind back when I was oblivious but please please

when I was oblivious but please please

when I was oblivious but please please do not use Ouija boards

do not use Ouija boards

do not use Ouija boards opening up that Gateway with an

opening up that Gateway with an

opening up that Gateway with an invitation was my biggest regret

invitation was my biggest regret

invitation was my biggest regret I lost one of my best friends

I lost one of my best friends

I lost one of my best friends and that hole is felt every day

very sad I mean yeah it just seems to

very sad I mean yeah it just seems to separate people and you can't blame

separate people and you can't blame

separate people and you can't blame yourself if you're listening right now

yourself if you're listening right now

yourself if you're listening right now anonymously obviously you're young you

anonymously obviously you're young you

anonymously obviously you're young you don't know what you're doing yeah

don't know what you're doing yeah

don't know what you're doing yeah well it's also she didn't convince her

well it's also she didn't convince her

well it's also she didn't convince her sister to play with the board her sister

sister to play with the board her sister

sister to play with the board her sister found the board that's true he's a gift

found the board that's true he's a gift

found the board that's true he's a gift given to her it's not like she really

given to her it's not like she really

given to her it's not like she really pursued having her sister get involved

pursued having her sister get involved

pursued having her sister get involved so I'm just saying like I don't know if

so I'm just saying like I don't know if

so I'm just saying like I don't know if I would give any advice to say I would

I would give any advice to say I would

I would give any advice to say I would say don't give up hope hopelessness is

say don't give up hope hopelessness is

say don't give up hope hopelessness is what the darkness wants hopefully one

what the darkness wants hopefully one

what the darkness wants hopefully one day you can reconnect with your sister

day you can reconnect with your sister

day you can reconnect with your sister this is crazy how it can affect

this is crazy how it can affect

this is crazy how it can affect something for so long you know how it

something for so long you know how it

something for so long you know how it can change the trajectory we've heard

can change the trajectory we've heard

can change the trajectory we've heard that a lot you know like even from the

that a lot you know like even from the

that a lot you know like even from the first story far somebody's like this has

first story far somebody's like this has

first story far somebody's like this has defined his life in a lot of ways it

defined his life in a lot of ways it

defined his life in a lot of ways it seemed to open the door on a lot of

seemed to open the door on a lot of

seemed to open the door on a lot of other experiences and just opens that

other experiences and just opens that

other experiences and just opens that portal and just kind of thought maybe I

portal and just kind of thought maybe I

portal and just kind of thought maybe I did when I was younger

did when I was younger

did when I was younger that's where uh Hank came from

that's where uh Hank came from

that's where uh Hank came from Hank I don't know I'm following you

Hank I don't know I'm following you

Hank I don't know I'm following you right now that's the thing I think a lot

right now that's the thing I think a lot

right now that's the thing I think a lot of people think at the time and we've

of people think at the time and we've

of people think at the time and we've done this before you know on impromptu

done this before you know on impromptu

done this before you know on impromptu evening it's with friends and maybe had

evening it's with friends and maybe had

evening it's with friends and maybe had some drinks or it's Halloween or

some drinks or it's Halloween or

some drinks or it's Halloween or something you're like it's a one night

something you're like it's a one night

something you're like it's a one night thing that's what you're thinking it's a

thing that's what you're thinking it's a

thing that's what you're thinking it's a one-night experience we're gonna do this

one-night experience we're gonna do this

one-night experience we're gonna do this thing nothing like oh there might be a

thing nothing like oh there might be a

thing nothing like oh there might be a lingering Darkness for years right

lingering Darkness for years right

lingering Darkness for years right decades yeah you can't give up hope

decades yeah you can't give up hope

decades yeah you can't give up hope that's the hardest thing I think too is

that's the hardest thing I think too is

that's the hardest thing I think too is like people that go through the trauma

like people that go through the trauma

like people that go through the trauma and the lingering darkness that follows

and the lingering darkness that follows

and the lingering darkness that follows them into adulthood you know it doesn't

them into adulthood you know it doesn't

them into adulthood you know it doesn't want you to be hopeful or optimistic or

want you to be hopeful or optimistic or

want you to be hopeful or optimistic or believe that you can have a good life

believe that you can have a good life

believe that you can have a good life that's the point so you have to fight

that's the point so you have to fight

that's the point so you have to fight against that feeling if you can yeah I

against that feeling if you can yeah I

against that feeling if you can yeah I mean the hard part is when it's not

mean the hard part is when it's not

mean the hard part is when it's not directly she can do anything about it

directly she can do anything about it

directly she can do anything about it right I mean other than you know try to

right I mean other than you know try to

right I mean other than you know try to not lose hope no I know but like because

not lose hope no I know but like because

not lose hope no I know but like because it's involves someone else It's gotta be

it's involves someone else It's gotta be

it's involves someone else It's gotta be difficult yeah for sure anyways yeah so

difficult yeah for sure anyways yeah so

difficult yeah for sure anyways yeah so don't play with the Ouija board yeah on

don't play with the Ouija board yeah on

don't play with the Ouija board yeah on this Halloween unless you're prepared to

this Halloween unless you're prepared to

this Halloween unless you're prepared to suffer the consequences that would be

suffer the consequences that would be

suffer the consequences that would be our official believable advice rolling

our official believable advice rolling

our official believable advice rolling the dice it's fun to talk about but it's

the dice it's fun to talk about but it's

the dice it's fun to talk about but it's not fun to live with the rest of your

not fun to live with the rest of your

not fun to live with the rest of your life well thank you for sharing that

life well thank you for sharing that

life well thank you for sharing that intimate story absolutely you know

intimate story absolutely you know

intimate story absolutely you know speaking of creepy

speaking of creepy

speaking of creepy Ouija board stories with siblings Chris

Ouija board stories with siblings Chris

Ouija board stories with siblings Chris you shared a story earlier about your

you shared a story earlier about your

you shared a story earlier about your ex-girlfriend and that unsettling

ex-girlfriend and that unsettling

ex-girlfriend and that unsettling experience for the atmosphere shifted my

experience for the atmosphere shifted my

experience for the atmosphere shifted my very first girlfriend Angie I didn't

very first girlfriend Angie I didn't

very first girlfriend Angie I didn't know that she had a super disturbing

know that she had a super disturbing

know that she had a super disturbing Ouija board experience growing up yeah

Ouija board experience growing up yeah

Ouija board experience growing up yeah apparently she used to play with her

apparently she used to play with her

apparently she used to play with her sisters and her brother when she was

sisters and her brother when she was

sisters and her brother when she was like seven or eight years old and the

like seven or eight years old and the

like seven or eight years old and the last time they did it their baby brother

last time they did it their baby brother

last time they did it their baby brother who had died during childbirth appeared

who had died during childbirth appeared

who had died during childbirth appeared in the vanity mirror

crazy just super unsettled that'll stick

crazy just super unsettled that'll stick with you yeah that was the last time

with you yeah that was the last time

with you yeah that was the last time she's ever touched one yeah but that's

she's ever touched one yeah but that's

she's ever touched one yeah but that's just crazy I feel like everyone if you

just crazy I feel like everyone if you

just crazy I feel like everyone if you haven't had an experience you probably

haven't had an experience you probably

haven't had an experience you probably know somebody who has exactly and yeah I

know somebody who has exactly and yeah I

know somebody who has exactly and yeah I wonder how many people we know that

wonder how many people we know that

wonder how many people we know that we've just never heard their stories

we've just never heard their stories

we've just never heard their stories yeah

yeah

yeah um tons of just strange little anecdotal

um tons of just strange little anecdotal

um tons of just strange little anecdotal disturbing stories like that out there

disturbing stories like that out there

disturbing stories like that out there yeah

yeah

yeah well what do we have next should we do

well what do we have next should we do

well what do we have next should we do it ghetto girl gets ghosted sure this

it ghetto girl gets ghosted sure this

it ghetto girl gets ghosted sure this next one is called ghetto girls get

next one is called ghetto girls get

next one is called ghetto girls get ghosted

ghosted

ghosted ghetto girls get ghosted we can't say

ghetto girls get ghosted we can't say

ghetto girls get ghosted we can't say that it's a fun title she just happened

that it's a fun title she just happened

that it's a fun title she just happened to describe the apartment that they

to describe the apartment that they

to describe the apartment that they lived in was in a kind of ghetto so this

lived in was in a kind of ghetto so this

lived in was in a kind of ghetto so this story comes from Anna and takes place in

story comes from Anna and takes place in

story comes from Anna and takes place in Fresno California yeah this is

Fresno California yeah this is

Fresno California yeah this is interesting very interesting tale that

interesting very interesting tale that

interesting very interesting tale that involves monk Shamanism that's the group

involves monk Shamanism that's the group

involves monk Shamanism that's the group of people that had the where the origin

of people that had the where the origin

of people that had the where the origin of Freddy Krueger came from and we told

of Freddy Krueger came from and we told

of Freddy Krueger came from and we told that story many times I got taught again

that story many times I got taught again

that story many times I got taught again but Google it if you're interested we're

but Google it if you're interested we're

but Google it if you're interested we're stricken with the uh that sleeping

stricken with the uh that sleeping

stricken with the uh that sleeping disease right yes death in mid-sleep

disease right yes death in mid-sleep

disease right yes death in mid-sleep yeah anyways this is a great story

yeah anyways this is a great story

yeah anyways this is a great story I just found belief hole like two weeks

I just found belief hole like two weeks

I just found belief hole like two weeks ago I joined your patreon today and saw

ago I joined your patreon today and saw

ago I joined your patreon today and saw your call for stories maybe it's time to

your call for stories maybe it's time to

your call for stories maybe it's time to talk about a few things so here it goes

talk about a few things so here it goes

talk about a few things so here it goes my only experience with the Ouija board

when I was 12 years old I found myself

when I was 12 years old I found myself sitting in front of a paper version of

sitting in front of a paper version of

sitting in front of a paper version of the Ouija board at around 6 pm at night

the Ouija board at around 6 pm at night

the Ouija board at around 6 pm at night we were too poor to buy a board plus we

we were too poor to buy a board plus we

we were too poor to buy a board plus we were literally 12 years old

were literally 12 years old

were literally 12 years old so one of the girls drew the Ouija board

so one of the girls drew the Ouija board

so one of the girls drew the Ouija board on a piece of paper and we used a coin

on a piece of paper and we used a coin

on a piece of paper and we used a coin as the thing that moves around I

as the thing that moves around I

as the thing that moves around I honestly don't know what it's called

I remember this happened close to

I remember this happened close to Halloween because we were all talking

Halloween because we were all talking

Halloween because we were all talking about our costumes

about our costumes

about our costumes someone wanted to be a cheerleader

someone wanted to be a cheerleader

someone wanted to be a cheerleader someone wanted to be Britney Spears and

someone wanted to be Britney Spears and

someone wanted to be Britney Spears and I wanted to be a ninja

I wanted to be a ninja

I wanted to be a ninja then one girl started talking about

then one girl started talking about

then one girl started talking about spooky

spooky

spooky I have never liked talking about ghost

I have never liked talking about ghost

I have never liked talking about ghost stories because I've always had

stories because I've always had

stories because I've always had experiences growing up

experiences growing up

experiences growing up at the time I didn't know if it was

at the time I didn't know if it was

at the time I didn't know if it was because of the houses we lived in or

because of the houses we lived in or

because of the houses we lived in or because I was not normal spoiler alert I

because I was not normal spoiler alert I

because I was not normal spoiler alert I was not normal

was not normal

was not normal one girl I'm going to call her a leader

one girl I'm going to call her a leader

one girl I'm going to call her a leader girl Ben brought up the haunted house

girl Ben brought up the haunted house

girl Ben brought up the haunted house that was right next door to our

that was right next door to our

that was right next door to our apartment complex it was important to

apartment complex it was important to

apartment complex it was important to note that I recently just moved to the

note that I recently just moved to the

note that I recently just moved to the apartment complex apparently some guy

apartment complex apparently some guy

apartment complex apparently some guy died in that house next door

died in that house next door

died in that house next door possibly had killed himself and although

possibly had killed himself and although

possibly had killed himself and although no one lived in the house at the time

no one lived in the house at the time

no one lived in the house at the time things would happen

things would happen

things would happen lights would turn on at night people

lights would turn on at night people

lights would turn on at night people could hear a vacuum or water running

could hear a vacuum or water running

could hear a vacuum or water running when there was none

when there was none

when there was none and sometimes you would hear what

and sometimes you would hear what

and sometimes you would hear what sounded like rummaging around the house

sounded like rummaging around the house

sounded like rummaging around the house as if someone was in there

if you're wondering how can you hear

if you're wondering how can you hear rummaging in the house from the next

rummaging in the house from the next

rummaging in the house from the next door

door

door we lived in California

we lived in California

we lived in California our apartment complex literally loomed

our apartment complex literally loomed

our apartment complex literally loomed over the house because you know land is

over the house because you know land is

over the house because you know land is not cheap it could also be homeless

not cheap it could also be homeless

not cheap it could also be homeless people or squatters I'm not sure anyways

people or squatters I'm not sure anyways

people or squatters I'm not sure anyways someone else started talking about the

someone else started talking about the

someone else started talking about the haunted house

haunted house

haunted house and then leader girl had this great idea

and then leader girl had this great idea

and then leader girl had this great idea to use the Ouija board to contact the

to use the Ouija board to contact the

to use the Ouija board to contact the guy that supposedly died in that house

guy that supposedly died in that house

guy that supposedly died in that house personally I thought it was stupid and

personally I thought it was stupid and

personally I thought it was stupid and terrifying all at the same time first

terrifying all at the same time first

terrifying all at the same time first off how can you just summon a ghost and

off how can you just summon a ghost and

off how can you just summon a ghost and second why

second why

second why I need to state that I am Asian and in

I need to state that I am Asian and in

I need to state that I am Asian and in my culture our belief is Shamanism our

my culture our belief is Shamanism our

my culture our belief is Shamanism our religion specifically teaches us not to

religion specifically teaches us not to

religion specifically teaches us not to try to communicate with Spirits unless

try to communicate with Spirits unless

try to communicate with Spirits unless you are a shaman and or have been

you are a shaman and or have been

you are a shaman and or have been trained to do so

trained to do so

trained to do so opening up that door between us and

opening up that door between us and

opening up that door between us and Spirits is a huge No-No

Spirits is a huge No-No

Spirits is a huge No-No I was scared when the girls wanted to do

I was scared when the girls wanted to do

I was scared when the girls wanted to do this but I was also semi-new to the

this but I was also semi-new to the

this but I was also semi-new to the apartment so I didn't want to chicken

apartment so I didn't want to chicken

apartment so I didn't want to chicken out so I stayed when the paper Ouija

out so I stayed when the paper Ouija

out so I stayed when the paper Ouija board was made we took it to the grassy

board was made we took it to the grassy

board was made we took it to the grassy area in the middle of the apartment the

area in the middle of the apartment the

area in the middle of the apartment the grassy area is this little bowl in the

grassy area is this little bowl in the

grassy area is this little bowl in the ground where a pool should have been

ground where a pool should have been

ground where a pool should have been but probably because the Builder had no

but probably because the Builder had no

but probably because the Builder had no money it just sat empty and over time

money it just sat empty and over time

money it just sat empty and over time grass grew on it it actually feels like

grass grew on it it actually feels like

grass grew on it it actually feels like a little green Park in the middle of our

a little green Park in the middle of our

a little green Park in the middle of our super ghetto apartment it was nice it

super ghetto apartment it was nice it

super ghetto apartment it was nice it was after 6 PM because I just had dinner

was after 6 PM because I just had dinner

was after 6 PM because I just had dinner and it wasn't too dark out yet we placed

and it wasn't too dark out yet we placed

and it wasn't too dark out yet we placed the paper Ouija board on the ground

the paper Ouija board on the ground

the paper Ouija board on the ground and later girl started explaining how to

and later girl started explaining how to

and later girl started explaining how to play the game I think this is probably

play the game I think this is probably

play the game I think this is probably the first time I really learned about

the first time I really learned about

the first time I really learned about what a Ouija board was anyways we all

what a Ouija board was anyways we all

what a Ouija board was anyways we all put our index finger on the coin and

put our index finger on the coin and

put our index finger on the coin and leader girl LED most of the questioning

leader girl LED most of the questioning

leader girl LED most of the questioning it started out with

it started out with

it started out with is anyone there

is anyone there

is anyone there and the coin didn't move

and the coin didn't move

and the coin didn't move she continued to ask more things like

she continued to ask more things like

she continued to ask more things like are there ghosts in here

are there ghosts in here

are there ghosts in here is the apartment haunted

is the apartment haunted

is the apartment haunted is the house next door haunted

is the house next door haunted

is the house next door haunted nothing really happened I remember

nothing really happened I remember

nothing really happened I remember saying that I had to go home and leader

saying that I had to go home and leader

saying that I had to go home and leader girl told me that I couldn't go I had to

girl told me that I couldn't go I had to

girl told me that I couldn't go I had to ask permission from the board to go home

ask permission from the board to go home

ask permission from the board to go home I thought it was kind of stupid I'm

I thought it was kind of stupid I'm

I thought it was kind of stupid I'm going to ask for a piece of paper to go

going to ask for a piece of paper to go

going to ask for a piece of paper to go home

home

home I just rolled my eyes and said

I just rolled my eyes and said

I just rolled my eyes and said okay

okay

okay we all asked the board if we could go

we all asked the board if we could go

we all asked the board if we could go home

home

home our fingers were still hovering over the

our fingers were still hovering over the

our fingers were still hovering over the coin

coin

coin we were told not to touch the coin but

we were told not to touch the coin but

we were told not to touch the coin but to have our finger over it when suddenly

to have our finger over it when suddenly

to have our finger over it when suddenly it moved to

it moved to

it moved to no

no I looked up and noticed all the girls

I looked up and noticed all the girls

I looked up and noticed all the girls looking at each other it was one of

looking at each other it was one of

looking at each other it was one of those did you move it looks

those did you move it looks

those did you move it looks later girl said

later girl said

later girl said why can't we go home

why can't we go home

why can't we go home and after a short pause the coin moved

and after a short pause the coin moved

and after a short pause the coin moved around the board

around the board

around the board it said house

it said house

it said house [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] I was confused and said

I was confused and said

I was confused and said we can't go home because of our house

we can't go home because of our house

we can't go home because of our house the coin then moved again and spelled

the coin then moved again and spelled

the coin then moved again and spelled out my house

out my house

out my house leader girl blurted out that it must be

leader girl blurted out that it must be

leader girl blurted out that it must be the house next door

the house next door

the house next door she then asked

she then asked

she then asked are you the ghost from next door

are you the ghost from next door

are you the ghost from next door and the coin moved to

and the coin moved to

and the coin moved to yes

yes

yes at this point I felt like the leader

at this point I felt like the leader

at this point I felt like the leader girl was trying to freak us out because

girl was trying to freak us out because

girl was trying to freak us out because another girl Scaredy Cat Girl pulled her

another girl Scaredy Cat Girl pulled her

another girl Scaredy Cat Girl pulled her finger back and screamed that she wanted

finger back and screamed that she wanted

finger back and screamed that she wanted to go home

to go home

to go home leader girl told her she can't because

leader girl told her she can't because

leader girl told her she can't because the ghost from the next door wants to

the ghost from the next door wants to

the ghost from the next door wants to talk to us

talk to us

talk to us the other girls looked at each other and

the other girls looked at each other and

the other girls looked at each other and just made these faces like they were

just made these faces like they were

just made these faces like they were enjoying it

enjoying it

enjoying it scaredy cat girl got up immediately and

scaredy cat girl got up immediately and

scaredy cat girl got up immediately and said she was done

said she was done

said she was done leader girl blurted out but if she left

leader girl blurted out but if she left

leader girl blurted out but if she left the ghost from next door will get her

the ghost from next door will get her

the ghost from next door will get her the other two girls started to giggle

the other two girls started to giggle

the other two girls started to giggle I wanted to leave too so I quietly said

I wanted to leave too so I quietly said

I wanted to leave too so I quietly said that I wanted to go home I told them I

that I wanted to go home I told them I

that I wanted to go home I told them I needed to go wash dishes

needed to go wash dishes

needed to go wash dishes leader girl with her other two homies

leader girl with her other two homies

leader girl with her other two homies looked at each other and started

looked at each other and started

looked at each other and started laughing

laughing

laughing they pointed at scaredy cat girl and I

they pointed at scaredy cat girl and I

they pointed at scaredy cat girl and I saying that we were such crybabies

saying that we were such crybabies

saying that we were such crybabies as they laughed at us I had this odd

as they laughed at us I had this odd

as they laughed at us I had this odd feeling wash over me it was a

feeling wash over me it was a

feeling wash over me it was a combination of Goosebumps but with heat

combination of Goosebumps but with heat

combination of Goosebumps but with heat rising to my face

rising to my face

rising to my face note that October in the Central Valley

note that October in the Central Valley

note that October in the Central Valley is still relatively hot

is still relatively hot

is still relatively hot there was no wind in the air that

there was no wind in the air that

there was no wind in the air that evening so when this wind swept into the

evening so when this wind swept into the

evening so when this wind swept into the bowl of grass everyone went quiet

bowl of grass everyone went quiet

bowl of grass everyone went quiet [Music]

[Music]

[Music] it was almost like when someone blows

it was almost like when someone blows

it was almost like when someone blows out a candle

out a candle

out a candle it immediately got darker in that bowl

it immediately got darker in that bowl

it immediately got darker in that bowl of grass we all looked at each other and

of grass we all looked at each other and

of grass we all looked at each other and then back at the paper

then back at the paper

then back at the paper although this wind had blown into the

although this wind had blown into the

although this wind had blown into the bowl the Ouija board which was literally

bowl the Ouija board which was literally

bowl the Ouija board which was literally made out of paper did not move

made out of paper did not move

made out of paper did not move it was eerily quiet

it was eerily quiet

it was eerily quiet we live in a 20-plus unit apartment

we live in a 20-plus unit apartment

we live in a 20-plus unit apartment complex close to a train track

complex close to a train track

complex close to a train track this was literally a mini Asian village

this was literally a mini Asian village

this was literally a mini Asian village with everyone always out and about being

with everyone always out and about being

with everyone always out and about being in each other's business

in each other's business

in each other's business our apartment complex is never quiet

our apartment complex is never quiet

our apartment complex is never quiet scaredy cat girl was the first to run

scaredy cat girl was the first to run

scaredy cat girl was the first to run out of the bowl

out of the bowl

out of the bowl then the other girls all took flight

then the other girls all took flight

then the other girls all took flight I don't know why but my feet were glued

I don't know why but my feet were glued

I don't know why but my feet were glued to the ground I noticed leader girl was

to the ground I noticed leader girl was

to the ground I noticed leader girl was still here and she had this look of fear

still here and she had this look of fear

still here and she had this look of fear in her eyes

in her eyes

in her eyes her mouth was shut

her mouth was shut

her mouth was shut but she looked like she was trying to

but she looked like she was trying to

but she looked like she was trying to say something

say something

say something another gust of wind blew into the bowl

another gust of wind blew into the bowl

another gust of wind blew into the bowl and the paper flew up off the ground and

and the paper flew up off the ground and

and the paper flew up off the ground and as if we were both released from the

as if we were both released from the

as if we were both released from the ground we ran

ground we ran

ground we ran as I ran up out of the bowl the noise

as I ran up out of the bowl the noise

as I ran up out of the bowl the noise from the neighbors filled my ears and

from the neighbors filled my ears and

from the neighbors filled my ears and the lights in the apartment units lit up

the lights in the apartment units lit up

the lights in the apartment units lit up the evening

the evening

the evening my apartment unit was not too far from

my apartment unit was not too far from

my apartment unit was not too far from the bowl and as soon as I got in through

the bowl and as soon as I got in through

the bowl and as soon as I got in through the door I slammed it

the door I slammed it

the door I slammed it my brother was playing games on his

my brother was playing games on his

my brother was playing games on his Nintendo 64 and my mom was in the

Nintendo 64 and my mom was in the

Nintendo 64 and my mom was in the kitchen all the lights were on

kitchen all the lights were on

kitchen all the lights were on she saw me and immediately yelled at me

she saw me and immediately yelled at me

she saw me and immediately yelled at me one for slamming the door

one for slamming the door

one for slamming the door second for not washing the dishes after

second for not washing the dishes after

second for not washing the dishes after dinner

dinner

dinner I ran to her and hugged her

I ran to her and hugged her

I ran to her and hugged her thinking she'd save me from whatever

thinking she'd save me from whatever

thinking she'd save me from whatever happened

happened

happened she confusingly asked me if I was okay I

she confusingly asked me if I was okay I

she confusingly asked me if I was okay I just hugged her tighter

just hugged her tighter

just hugged her tighter that night I slept in the same bed as my

that night I slept in the same bed as my

that night I slept in the same bed as my mom and had a dream of an older white

mom and had a dream of an older white

mom and had a dream of an older white man

he was wearing brown corduroy jeans and

he was wearing brown corduroy jeans and a flannel button-up shirt

a flannel button-up shirt

a flannel button-up shirt he looked disheveled and unhappy

he looked disheveled and unhappy

he looked disheveled and unhappy he just looked at me like he was

he just looked at me like he was

he just looked at me like he was disappointed with me

disappointed with me

disappointed with me and walked away

after a few days we found out that

after a few days we found out that leader girl was sick then a few days

leader girl was sick then a few days

leader girl was sick then a few days after that

after that

after that I heard the sound of a drum coming from

I heard the sound of a drum coming from

I heard the sound of a drum coming from her apartment unit

her apartment unit

her apartment unit [Music]

[Music]

[Music] she lived in an upstairs unit two doors

she lived in an upstairs unit two doors

she lived in an upstairs unit two doors down for me I walked over and saw her

down for me I walked over and saw her

down for me I walked over and saw her front door open

front door open

front door open I knew this sound I also knew this

I knew this sound I also knew this

I knew this sound I also knew this familiar smell of incense it was a

familiar smell of incense it was a

familiar smell of incense it was a shaman ceremony

shaman ceremony

shaman ceremony I never confirmed if it was her so it

I never confirmed if it was her so it

I never confirmed if it was her so it could have been something else

could have been something else

could have been something else all I know is that we never talked about

all I know is that we never talked about

all I know is that we never talked about it and I stopped playing with her and

it and I stopped playing with her and

it and I stopped playing with her and the two other girls

the two other girls

the two other girls scaredy cat girl moved away and I became

scaredy cat girl moved away and I became

scaredy cat girl moved away and I became friends with other girls in the complex

friends with other girls in the complex

friends with other girls in the complex who weren't into Ouija board initiation

who weren't into Ouija board initiation

who weren't into Ouija board initiation of course we can chalk it up to

of course we can chalk it up to

of course we can chalk it up to coincidences but I can't explain how a

coincidences but I can't explain how a

coincidences but I can't explain how a paper doesn't move when a gust of wind

paper doesn't move when a gust of wind

paper doesn't move when a gust of wind comes through or how a small space can

comes through or how a small space can

comes through or how a small space can get darker and quieter

get darker and quieter

get darker and quieter how can a relatively healthy person get

how can a relatively healthy person get

how can a relatively healthy person get sick for days after such an experience

sick for days after such an experience

sick for days after such an experience maybe we stayed out too late and she

maybe we stayed out too late and she

maybe we stayed out too late and she caught a cold maybe it's all in our

caught a cold maybe it's all in our

caught a cold maybe it's all in our minds

minds

minds it won't be until much later on in my

it won't be until much later on in my

it won't be until much later on in my adult life that I will be taught how to

adult life that I will be taught how to

adult life that I will be taught how to manage and deal with my experiences also

manage and deal with my experiences also

manage and deal with my experiences also the house has been demolished

the house has been demolished

the house has been demolished and the land still sits vacant

and the land still sits vacant

and the land still sits vacant quite a story Anna yes indeed but I'm

quite a story Anna yes indeed but I'm

quite a story Anna yes indeed but I'm glad you found the hole and thank you

glad you found the hole and thank you

glad you found the hole and thank you for sharing that um creepy and very

for sharing that um creepy and very

for sharing that um creepy and very interesting story yeah very unique the

interesting story yeah very unique the

interesting story yeah very unique the bowl like she said it leaves a little

bowl like she said it leaves a little

bowl like she said it leaves a little bit of question you're not totally sure

bit of question you're not totally sure

bit of question you're not totally sure in our minds right but definitely some

in our minds right but definitely some

in our minds right but definitely some weird anomalies with the wind and not

weird anomalies with the wind and not

weird anomalies with the wind and not moving the makeshift board if that and

moving the makeshift board if that and

moving the makeshift board if that and how the bull that they were in where

how the bull that they were in where

how the bull that they were in where they were using this makeshift board how

they were using this makeshift board how

they were using this makeshift board how she said everything grew darker and

she said everything grew darker and

she said everything grew darker and silent and Silent yeah and then when

silent and Silent yeah and then when

silent and Silent yeah and then when they seem to be broken free from that

they seem to be broken free from that

they seem to be broken free from that sort of position the place became alive

sort of position the place became alive

sort of position the place became alive with activity and light again which is

with activity and light again which is

with activity and light again which is just running through that atmospheric

just running through that atmospheric

just running through that atmospheric shift I think didn't Farson say the same

shift I think didn't Farson say the same

shift I think didn't Farson say the same thing at the beginning that got

thing at the beginning that got

thing at the beginning that got everything got dark and quiet yeah we

everything got dark and quiet yeah we

everything got dark and quiet yeah we said dark but very quiet things got

said dark but very quiet things got

said dark but very quiet things got super quiet yeah I think we actually

super quiet yeah I think we actually

super quiet yeah I think we actually there was another one too that said

there was another one too that said

there was another one too that said something like that there's some kind of

something like that there's some kind of

something like that there's some kind of like energy shift where things get

like energy shift where things get

like energy shift where things get quieter and uh yes that change in

quieter and uh yes that change in

quieter and uh yes that change in atmosphere also interesting dream yeah

atmosphere also interesting dream yeah

atmosphere also interesting dream yeah well it sounds like it I mean you could

well it sounds like it I mean you could

well it sounds like it I mean you could chuck it up too that could be

chuck it up too that could be

chuck it up too that could be subconscious like or it could be the man

subconscious like or it could be the man

subconscious like or it could be the man in the house they're trying to come well

in the house they're trying to come well

in the house they're trying to come well obviously that's right what that's what

obviously that's right what that's what

obviously that's right what that's what it was I am decided it I wonder what

it was I am decided it I wonder what

it was I am decided it I wonder what other experiences she had because it

other experiences she had because it

other experiences she had because it sounds like this has been a lifelong

sounds like this has been a lifelong

sounds like this has been a lifelong thing too and then she later learned how

thing too and then she later learned how

thing too and then she later learned how to deal with this stuff she has

to deal with this stuff she has

to deal with this stuff she has submitted another story through speak

submitted another story through speak

submitted another story through speak pipe that we might do on a future

pipe that we might do on a future

pipe that we might do on a future episode cool we're in that apartment

episode cool we're in that apartment

episode cool we're in that apartment right yeah sounds like an interesting

right yeah sounds like an interesting

right yeah sounds like an interesting place to grow up the haunted apartment

place to grow up the haunted apartment

place to grow up the haunted apartment complex well welcome to the hole and I'm

complex well welcome to the hole and I'm

complex well welcome to the hole and I'm glad you found us yeah we'll have a

glad you found us yeah we'll have a

glad you found us yeah we'll have a picture in the show notes that she sent

picture in the show notes that she sent

picture in the show notes that she sent of the actual vacant lot uh where it now

of the actual vacant lot uh where it now

of the actual vacant lot uh where it now sits it still stands vacant that's

sits it still stands vacant that's

sits it still stands vacant that's interesting still vacant

interesting still vacant

interesting still vacant [Music]

[Music]

[Music] I think we have a very special last

I think we have a very special last

I think we have a very special last story don't we yes our final story of

story don't we yes our final story of

story don't we yes our final story of the day comes from the master

the day comes from the master

the day comes from the master Storyteller and author Steve Stockton

Storyteller and author Steve Stockton

Storyteller and author Steve Stockton good friend of the show yes and he's got

good friend of the show yes and he's got

good friend of the show yes and he's got some good words of wisdom in here from

some good words of wisdom in here from

some good words of wisdom in here from his mother who actually grew up if you

his mother who actually grew up if you

his mother who actually grew up if you heard our other episode with Steve she

heard our other episode with Steve she

heard our other episode with Steve she grew up around the time of the spiritual

grew up around the time of the spiritual

grew up around the time of the spiritual movement so her whole life she had

movement so her whole life she had

movement so her whole life she had experiences with talking boards and with

experiences with talking boards and with

experiences with talking boards and with seances and so Steve threw her learned a

seances and so Steve threw her learned a

seances and so Steve threw her learned a lot as a young child and Steve himself

lot as a young child and Steve himself

lot as a young child and Steve himself had the the call or that sort of thing

had the the call or that sort of thing

had the the call or that sort of thing his grandmother believed that he was

his grandmother believed that he was

his grandmother believed that he was touched and she had had the same

touched and she had had the same

touched and she had had the same sensitivities he has some thoughts on

sensitivities he has some thoughts on

sensitivities he has some thoughts on that as well and you'll hear in the

that as well and you'll hear in the

that as well and you'll hear in the story it's a great way to I think book

story it's a great way to I think book

story it's a great way to I think book in this edition of our Ouija board

in this edition of our Ouija board

in this edition of our Ouija board horror stories anthology

horror stories anthology

horror stories anthology hello hello Steve Stockton here with you

hello hello Steve Stockton here with you

hello hello Steve Stockton here with you I was asked by the brothers to share one

I was asked by the brothers to share one

I was asked by the brothers to share one of my Ouija board stories

of my Ouija board stories

of my Ouija board stories [Music]

[Music]

[Music] now I'm sure a lot of you have played

now I'm sure a lot of you have played

now I'm sure a lot of you have played with a Ouija board or any other type

with a Ouija board or any other type

with a Ouija board or any other type talking board or mystifying Oracle

talking board or mystifying Oracle

talking board or mystifying Oracle although I haven't had what I would

although I haven't had what I would

although I haven't had what I would consider a lot of experience with the

consider a lot of experience with the

consider a lot of experience with the board I have used them and have been

board I have used them and have been

board I have used them and have been around where they were used almost

around where they were used almost

around where they were used almost constantly and to some degree of

constantly and to some degree of

constantly and to some degree of accuracy some people love them some

accuracy some people love them some

accuracy some people love them some people are afraid of them and others

people are afraid of them and others

people are afraid of them and others still laugh at what they consider the

still laugh at what they consider the

still laugh at what they consider the users naivete and gullibility

users naivete and gullibility

users naivete and gullibility regardless of your opinion I'll bet each

regardless of your opinion I'll bet each

regardless of your opinion I'll bet each of you have at least one story regarding

of you have at least one story regarding

of you have at least one story regarding Norwegian

Norwegian

Norwegian now I was drawn to this type of thing as

now I was drawn to this type of thing as

now I was drawn to this type of thing as a small child and I can remember my

a small child and I can remember my

a small child and I can remember my mother taking me to Woolworths in the

mother taking me to Woolworths in the

mother taking me to Woolworths in the old downtown Oak Ridge Shopping Center

old downtown Oak Ridge Shopping Center

old downtown Oak Ridge Shopping Center I've been sick that day we'd gone to get

I've been sick that day we'd gone to get

I've been sick that day we'd gone to get prescriptions filled and she offered to

prescriptions filled and she offered to

prescriptions filled and she offered to buy me a toy

buy me a toy

buy me a toy I remember seeing the board on the Shelf

I remember seeing the board on the Shelf

I remember seeing the board on the Shelf it was the old style with the hooded

it was the old style with the hooded

it was the old style with the hooded figure on a dark background and I was

figure on a dark background and I was

figure on a dark background and I was fascinated by it

fascinated by it

fascinated by it sure enough my buzzer bought it for me

sure enough my buzzer bought it for me

sure enough my buzzer bought it for me and I rode home with it sitting in my

and I rode home with it sitting in my

and I rode home with it sitting in my lap

lap

lap we took the board home and my mother

we took the board home and my mother

we took the board home and my mother showed me how to use it now my mother

showed me how to use it now my mother

showed me how to use it now my mother was no stranger to communicating with

was no stranger to communicating with

was no stranger to communicating with the other side as a young girl in the

the other side as a young girl in the

the other side as a young girl in the 30s her family took part in the

30s her family took part in the

30s her family took part in the spiritualism movement from around the

spiritualism movement from around the

spiritualism movement from around the turn of the last century

turn of the last century

turn of the last century she often took part in seances table

she often took part in seances table

she often took part in seances table tapping sessions and yes Ouija board

tapping sessions and yes Ouija board

tapping sessions and yes Ouija board sessions

sessions

sessions those first sessions I was amazed to

those first sessions I was amazed to

those first sessions I was amazed to feel the planchette moving beneath our

feel the planchette moving beneath our

feel the planchette moving beneath our fingertips

fingertips

fingertips I first thought my mother must be

I first thought my mother must be

I first thought my mother must be touching

touching

touching but I also recall that sometimes it

but I also recall that sometimes it

but I also recall that sometimes it would spell foreign words that she would

would spell foreign words that she would

would spell foreign words that she would have to look up the meaning of later on

some of our first questions reflected my

some of our first questions reflected my tender age I was all of five

tender age I was all of five

tender age I was all of five when was the first snowfall happen this

when was the first snowfall happen this

when was the first snowfall happen this year how much snow would we get what was

year how much snow would we get what was

year how much snow would we get what was I going to get for my birthday for

I going to get for my birthday for

I going to get for my birthday for Christmas

Christmas

Christmas I delighted in watching the talking

I delighted in watching the talking

I delighted in watching the talking board spelling out many words that I

board spelling out many words that I

board spelling out many words that I didn't know despite being precocious I

didn't know despite being precocious I

didn't know despite being precocious I knew how to read at a third grade level

knew how to read at a third grade level

knew how to read at a third grade level and had an extensive vocabulary although

and had an extensive vocabulary although

and had an extensive vocabulary although I was only a kindergarten student

I was only a kindergarten student

I was only a kindergarten student my mother also explained the cautionary

my mother also explained the cautionary

my mother also explained the cautionary side of playing with the board

side of playing with the board

side of playing with the board there were certain questions you must

there were certain questions you must

there were certain questions you must never ask such as when and how will I

never ask such as when and how will I

never ask such as when and how will I die and when will the end of the world

die and when will the end of the world

die and when will the end of the world take place

take place

take place those two I distinctly remember being

those two I distinctly remember being

those two I distinctly remember being sternly forbidden

sternly forbidden

sternly forbidden she also stated that I must never play

she also stated that I must never play

she also stated that I must never play with the board alone nor should I invite

with the board alone nor should I invite

with the board alone nor should I invite anything contacted by the board to join

anything contacted by the board to join

anything contacted by the board to join us on this plane of existence

us on this plane of existence

us on this plane of existence these types of warnings and thoughts

these types of warnings and thoughts

these types of warnings and thoughts made me more than a little apprehensive

made me more than a little apprehensive

made me more than a little apprehensive and a lot of it often think about the

and a lot of it often think about the

and a lot of it often think about the consequences just to scare myself I

consequences just to scare myself I

consequences just to scare myself I obeyed her rules and never took the

obeyed her rules and never took the

obeyed her rules and never took the board lightly or asked any of the

board lightly or asked any of the

board lightly or asked any of the questions that I'd been instructed not

questions that I'd been instructed not

questions that I'd been instructed not to ask

to ask

to ask I can remember another occasion when

I can remember another occasion when

I can remember another occasion when there was a particular phonograph record

there was a particular phonograph record

there was a particular phonograph record that I wanted desperately but my parents

that I wanted desperately but my parents

that I wanted desperately but my parents had been unable to locate it I asked my

had been unable to locate it I asked my

had been unable to locate it I asked my mother to help me consult a Ouija sure

mother to help me consult a Ouija sure

mother to help me consult a Ouija sure enough it gave us the name of a somewhat

enough it gave us the name of a somewhat

enough it gave us the name of a somewhat obscure record shop in downtown

obscure record shop in downtown

obscure record shop in downtown Knoxville

Knoxville

Knoxville my mother called the shop back then

my mother called the shop back then

my mother called the shop back then calling Knoxville from Oak Ridge was

calling Knoxville from Oak Ridge was

calling Knoxville from Oak Ridge was long distance and the gentleman on the

long distance and the gentleman on the

long distance and the gentleman on the other end of the line said he would look

other end of the line said he would look

other end of the line said he would look and see well I thought there goes that

and see well I thought there goes that

and see well I thought there goes that but sure enough a couple hours later he

but sure enough a couple hours later he

but sure enough a couple hours later he called back and surprisingly enough he

called back and surprisingly enough he

called back and surprisingly enough he had found the very album of circus music

had found the very album of circus music

had found the very album of circus music that I so desperately desired in his

that I so desperately desired in his

that I so desperately desired in his stock in the back

it was an out of print album haven't

it was an out of print album haven't been printed in the 50s I'd heard it at

been printed in the 50s I'd heard it at

been printed in the 50s I'd heard it at kindergarten in the 60s my mother had

kindergarten in the 60s my mother had

kindergarten in the 60s my mother had the man set it aside for us and then

the man set it aside for us and then

the man set it aside for us and then later that week we went and purchased it

later that week we went and purchased it

later that week we went and purchased it after having lunch at crescent's in

after having lunch at crescent's in

after having lunch at crescent's in Knoxville

Knoxville

Knoxville I was beginning to see Luigi as a very

I was beginning to see Luigi as a very

I was beginning to see Luigi as a very useful tool even at such a young age

useful tool even at such a young age

useful tool even at such a young age this is when my mother let me know that

this is when my mother let me know that

this is when my mother let me know that too much Ouija could be a bad thing and

too much Ouija could be a bad thing and

too much Ouija could be a bad thing and that relying on it for everyday decision

that relying on it for everyday decision

that relying on it for everyday decision making would surely lead to a dire

making would surely lead to a dire

making would surely lead to a dire situation

situation

situation so she put the Ouija board in the top of

so she put the Ouija board in the top of

so she put the Ouija board in the top of her closet and once again it became a

her closet and once again it became a

her closet and once again it became a treat or something to use under special

treat or something to use under special

treat or something to use under special circumstances where help from Beyond the

circumstances where help from Beyond the

circumstances where help from Beyond the Veil was deemed necessary

Veil was deemed necessary

Veil was deemed necessary looking back I'm very thankful that she

looking back I'm very thankful that she

looking back I'm very thankful that she taught me to use the talking board in

taught me to use the talking board in

taught me to use the talking board in moderation

moderation

moderation as an adult I've met those who have had

as an adult I've met those who have had

as an adult I've met those who have had their mind and their very life consumed

their mind and their very life consumed

their mind and their very life consumed by the Ouija usually having been drawn

by the Ouija usually having been drawn

by the Ouija usually having been drawn to the dark side which is easier than

to the dark side which is easier than

to the dark side which is easier than one might think sure it starts out

one might think sure it starts out

one might think sure it starts out innocently enough like me as a child

innocently enough like me as a child

innocently enough like me as a child fascinated with the Oracle and asking it

fascinated with the Oracle and asking it

fascinated with the Oracle and asking it a million inane questions growing Bolder

a million inane questions growing Bolder

a million inane questions growing Bolder and Bolder each day but when it gets to

and Bolder each day but when it gets to

and Bolder each day but when it gets to the point of not being able to make any

the point of not being able to make any

the point of not being able to make any decision without the Ouija or tarot

decision without the Ouija or tarot

decision without the Ouija or tarot cards or the Zodiac or star chart or

cards or the Zodiac or star chart or

cards or the Zodiac or star chart or ruins or the iching or any number of

ruins or the iching or any number of

ruins or the iching or any number of systems of divinity I think one risk

systems of divinity I think one risk

systems of divinity I think one risk becoming a slave to the practice

becoming a slave to the practice

becoming a slave to the practice by setting limits I use the Ouija and

by setting limits I use the Ouija and

by setting limits I use the Ouija and other tools responsible

other tools responsible

other tools responsible nowadays I stay away from the Ouija

nowadays I stay away from the Ouija

nowadays I stay away from the Ouija board in general but I do not fear them

board in general but I do not fear them

board in general but I do not fear them like anything of an occult nature I feel

like anything of an occult nature I feel

like anything of an occult nature I feel it only has the power over you that you

it only has the power over you that you

it only has the power over you that you give to it

give to it

give to it but I would never tell anyone not to use

but I would never tell anyone not to use

but I would never tell anyone not to use a talking board I wouldn't recommend the

a talking board I wouldn't recommend the

a talking board I wouldn't recommend the use of one either to reach his or her

use of one either to reach his or her

use of one either to reach his or her own but use your due diligence and

own but use your due diligence and

own but use your due diligence and caution otherwise I might end up writing

caution otherwise I might end up writing

caution otherwise I might end up writing about you in one of my future books of

about you in one of my future books of

about you in one of my future books of spooky stories

spooky stories

spooky stories [Music]

[Music]

[Music] thank you for that that's a good point

thank you for that that's a good point

thank you for that that's a good point Steve if Steve believes it's with a

Steve if Steve believes it's with a

Steve if Steve believes it's with a little bit more of a balanced look at it

little bit more of a balanced look at it

little bit more of a balanced look at it yes as far as uh it'll be interesting to

yes as far as uh it'll be interesting to

yes as far as uh it'll be interesting to hear people's comments that you know

hear people's comments that you know

hear people's comments that you know where it's lasted their whole lives on

where it's lasted their whole lives on

where it's lasted their whole lives on it what they would say about that yeah

it what they would say about that yeah

it what they would say about that yeah I've heard both and I've heard as we've

I've heard both and I've heard as we've

I've heard both and I've heard as we've mentioned at the very beginning episode

mentioned at the very beginning episode

mentioned at the very beginning episode too I've heard people write in saying

too I've heard people write in saying

too I've heard people write in saying I've had experience with the board right

I've had experience with the board right

I've had experience with the board right I'm a medium or I've you know I know how

I'm a medium or I've you know I know how

I'm a medium or I've you know I know how to use this correctly I've heard that

to use this correctly I've heard that

to use this correctly I've heard that especially from comments on other

especially from comments on other

especially from comments on other episodes we've done which I think can be

episodes we've done which I think can be

episodes we've done which I think can be possible but for me again it is always

possible but for me again it is always

possible but for me again it is always it is a roll of the dice and I think if

it is a roll of the dice and I think if

it is a roll of the dice and I think if you're going to use a law moderation is

you're going to use a law moderation is

you're going to use a law moderation is definitely the way rare to never but it

definitely the way rare to never but it

definitely the way rare to never but it does seem like it has like a sticky

does seem like it has like a sticky

does seem like it has like a sticky presence where it kind of ropes you in

presence where it kind of ropes you in

presence where it kind of ropes you in you know

you know

you know it just wants you to use it more it's a

it just wants you to use it more it's a

it just wants you to use it more it's a Temptation right especially anytime

Temptation right especially anytime

Temptation right especially anytime you're going to get knowledge that

you're going to get knowledge that

you're going to get knowledge that nobody else has right it keeps proving

nobody else has right it keeps proving

nobody else has right it keeps proving to be true it does feel like a

to be true it does feel like a

to be true it does feel like a superpower yeah you know I mean it kind

superpower yeah you know I mean it kind

superpower yeah you know I mean it kind of yeah I mean it's definitely

of yeah I mean it's definitely

of yeah I mean it's definitely Supernatural you know divining

Supernatural you know divining

Supernatural you know divining how did Steve put it

how did Steve put it

how did Steve put it um not giving your will to it but as far

um not giving your will to it but as far

um not giving your will to it but as far as giving yourself over to it or or has

as giving yourself over to it or or has

as giving yourself over to it or or has kind of said if you'd lean as much as

kind of said if you'd lean as much as

kind of said if you'd lean as much as you believe in it almost sort of thing

you believe in it almost sort of thing

you believe in it almost sort of thing like the power over you he doesn't fear

like the power over you he doesn't fear

like the power over you he doesn't fear it anymore it's kind of like it yeah

it anymore it's kind of like it yeah

it anymore it's kind of like it yeah like there it is it took all the episode

like there it is it took all the episode

like there it is it took all the episode to get there but there it is it's like

to get there but there it is it's like

to get there but there it is it's like it yeah definitely I feel like with this

it yeah definitely I feel like with this

it yeah definitely I feel like with this with anything occult or divining or

with anything occult or divining or

with anything occult or divining or anything that there is something about

anything that there is something about

anything that there is something about people who say like starve your ghouls

people who say like starve your ghouls

people who say like starve your ghouls there's a big part of it that's about

there's a big part of it that's about

there's a big part of it that's about will an intention yeah and I feel like

will an intention yeah and I feel like

will an intention yeah and I feel like at the end of the day that's that's

at the end of the day that's that's

at the end of the day that's that's where it is and yeah like you know some

where it is and yeah like you know some

where it is and yeah like you know some people can probably use it without issue

people can probably use it without issue

people can probably use it without issue I think if you're I think the problems

I think if you're I think the problems

I think if you're I think the problems can come especially if you're younger a

can come especially if you're younger a

can come especially if you're younger a child a kid that is not fully mature

child a kid that is not fully mature

child a kid that is not fully mature that has a lot of Natural Energy a lot

that has a lot of Natural Energy a lot

that has a lot of Natural Energy a lot of them can be naive also attractive to

of them can be naive also attractive to

of them can be naive also attractive to the dark yeah I mean there's just it's a

the dark yeah I mean there's just it's a

the dark yeah I mean there's just it's a kind of the perfect setup yeah you know

kind of the perfect setup yeah you know

kind of the perfect setup yeah you know you have this youthful energy where it

you have this youthful energy where it

you have this youthful energy where it seems like we always talk about kids or

seems like we always talk about kids or

seems like we always talk about kids or are more I have a beacon they're more

are more I have a beacon they're more

are more I have a beacon they're more open so if you think that they have

open so if you think that they have

open so if you think that they have maybe this light that these other darker

maybe this light that these other darker

maybe this light that these other darker beings can see it just seems like it's

beings can see it just seems like it's

beings can see it just seems like it's not a good thing for them to mess up so

not a good thing for them to mess up so

not a good thing for them to mess up so you're saying it's like the perfect

you're saying it's like the perfect

you're saying it's like the perfect combination yeah yeah well going back to

combination yeah yeah well going back to

combination yeah yeah well going back to the beginning episode when you talked

the beginning episode when you talked

the beginning episode when you talked about you were running with your

about you were running with your

about you were running with your neighbor you met on the Towpath

neighbor you met on the Towpath

neighbor you met on the Towpath imagining what it would be like seeing

imagining what it would be like seeing

imagining what it would be like seeing spirits or those that have died and not

spirits or those that have died and not

spirits or those that have died and not moved on wandering around in in many

moved on wandering around in in many

moved on wandering around in in many cases begging for your help asking if

cases begging for your help asking if

cases begging for your help asking if you're trying to communicate with you

you're trying to communicate with you

you're trying to communicate with you constantly so the Ouija board being that

constantly so the Ouija board being that

constantly so the Ouija board being that same kind of like would you want to live

same kind of like would you want to live

same kind of like would you want to live with that ability do you want to open

with that ability do you want to open

with that ability do you want to open the door that sounds like a difficult

the door that sounds like a difficult

the door that sounds like a difficult gift to have so what you're basically

gift to have so what you're basically

gift to have so what you're basically opening the door to that whether it's

opening the door to that whether it's

opening the door to that whether it's actually someone who's died or something

actually someone who's died or something

actually someone who's died or something much darker you are that Beacon you be

much darker you are that Beacon you be

much darker you are that Beacon you be you open the door and the light shines

you open the door and the light shines

you open the door and the light shines out of your suburban home where you're

out of your suburban home where you're

out of your suburban home where you're playing this board into the dark further

playing this board into the dark further

playing this board into the dark further into the abyss yeah the other side I

into the abyss yeah the other side I

into the abyss yeah the other side I wonder how many people have done this

wonder how many people have done this

wonder how many people have done this when they were young and opened up an

when they were young and opened up an

when they were young and opened up an ability where they do see spirits all

ability where they do see spirits all

ability where they do see spirits all the time for the rest of their life like

the time for the rest of their life like

the time for the rest of their life like somehow connected are people that are

somehow connected are people that are

somehow connected are people that are naturally probably inclined to this

naturally probably inclined to this

naturally probably inclined to this direction and then the Ouija board is

direction and then the Ouija board is

direction and then the Ouija board is like a wedge that keeps the door open

like a wedge that keeps the door open

like a wedge that keeps the door open door stop it's like that activation

door stop it's like that activation

door stop it's like that activation switch the devilish Doors Down

switch the devilish Doors Down

switch the devilish Doors Down interesting oh I was gonna say we should

interesting oh I was gonna say we should

interesting oh I was gonna say we should say did we ever say the name of that

say did we ever say the name of that

say did we ever say the name of that movie at the beginning yeah we did say

movie at the beginning yeah we did say

movie at the beginning yeah we did say talk to me yeah okay okay but yeah I

talk to me yeah okay okay but yeah I

talk to me yeah okay okay but yeah I mean everything about that movie if you

mean everything about that movie if you

mean everything about that movie if you I mean it's a it's a worthwhile watch

I mean it's a it's a worthwhile watch

I mean it's a it's a worthwhile watch for sure yeah I would definitely if you

for sure yeah I would definitely if you

for sure yeah I would definitely if you want to be it's not terrifying but it's

want to be it's not terrifying but it's

want to be it's not terrifying but it's definitely one of those movies that kind

definitely one of those movies that kind

definitely one of those movies that kind of sits with you and it's just there's

of sits with you and it's just there's

of sits with you and it's just there's something about it they do a really good

something about it they do a really good

something about it they do a really good job of capturing that youthful energy in

job of capturing that youthful energy in

job of capturing that youthful energy in that atmosphere and uh yeah and

that atmosphere and uh yeah and

that atmosphere and uh yeah and obviously when when they call them over

obviously when when they call them over

obviously when when they call them over yeah you know it can get kind of dark

yeah you know it can get kind of dark

yeah you know it can get kind of dark that was obviously like I think you're

that was obviously like I think you're

that was obviously like I think you're right about who you said earlier where

right about who you said earlier where

right about who you said earlier where that example of this hand in this film

that example of this hand in this film

that example of this hand in this film but also in reality with the Ouija board

but also in reality with the Ouija board

but also in reality with the Ouija board where kids get excited you kind of like

where kids get excited you kind of like

where kids get excited you kind of like ignore the the dangerous dangerous yeah

ignore the the dangerous dangerous yeah

ignore the the dangerous dangerous yeah in danger signs and red flags but it

in danger signs and red flags but it

in danger signs and red flags but it definitely like a little hard to believe

definitely like a little hard to believe

definitely like a little hard to believe but it's a cinematic tool but when

but it's a cinematic tool but when

but it's a cinematic tool but when suddenly there is a person who seems

suddenly there is a person who seems

suddenly there is a person who seems physical synchrosity who's ghoulish and

physical synchrosity who's ghoulish and

physical synchrosity who's ghoulish and terrifying yeah and then a moment later

terrifying yeah and then a moment later

terrifying yeah and then a moment later you're like laughing and watching

you're like laughing and watching

you're like laughing and watching someone else do it that'd be a little

someone else do it that'd be a little

someone else do it that'd be a little hard to believe that yeah and maybe the

hard to believe that yeah and maybe the

hard to believe that yeah and maybe the explanation I think that I got from that

explanation I think that I got from that

explanation I think that I got from that was there also is like a Euphoria oh

was there also is like a Euphoria oh

was there also is like a Euphoria oh that's true it was like a drug almost

that's true it was like a drug almost

that's true it was like a drug almost despite the terror you felt when you're

despite the terror you felt when you're

despite the terror you felt when you're in the moment right after that like how

in the moment right after that like how

in the moment right after that like how does it feel it felt amazing so there

does it feel it felt amazing so there

does it feel it felt amazing so there was this I think it's what she said

was this I think it's what she said

was this I think it's what she said euphoric yeah it's drug-like induced

euphoric yeah it's drug-like induced

euphoric yeah it's drug-like induced euphoric state that came along with this

euphoric state that came along with this

euphoric state that came along with this temporary possession it was like a party

temporary possession it was like a party

temporary possession it was like a party drug so that's what I think a lot it's

drug so that's what I think a lot it's

drug so that's what I think a lot it's almost like a sweet Venom you know what

almost like a sweet Venom you know what

almost like a sweet Venom you know what I mean like you were poisoned but it

I mean like you were poisoned but it

I mean like you were poisoned but it felt good to lure you in exactly but

felt good to lure you in exactly but

felt good to lure you in exactly but yeah we haven't spoiled anything it's

yeah we haven't spoiled anything it's

yeah we haven't spoiled anything it's it's a good watch it's definitely creepy

it's a good watch it's definitely creepy

it's a good watch it's definitely creepy it's perfect Halloween movie and it will

it's perfect Halloween movie and it will

it's perfect Halloween movie and it will remind you very much of the Ouija board

remind you very much of the Ouija board

remind you very much of the Ouija board interactions and this episode so yeah

interactions and this episode so yeah

interactions and this episode so yeah check it out it all comes back to the

check it out it all comes back to the

check it out it all comes back to the fun to do horror movie reviews yeah

fun to do horror movie reviews yeah

fun to do horror movie reviews yeah that'd be great all in our new studio

that'd be great all in our new studio

that'd be great all in our new studio hopefully we can set all that up we just

hopefully we can set all that up we just

hopefully we can set all that up we just gotta find the space just kidding we're

gotta find the space just kidding we're

gotta find the space just kidding we're already here just gotta get the gear

already here just gotta get the gear

already here just gotta get the gear finish setting it up

finish setting it up

finish setting it up oh and I almost forgot what what is it

oh and I almost forgot what what is it

oh and I almost forgot what what is it cute little birthday music because

cute little birthday music because

cute little birthday music because there's a special man out there there's

there's a special man out there there's

there's a special man out there there's a special fella and his name is Darren

a special fella and his name is Darren

a special fella and his name is Darren happy birthday Darren happy freaking

happy birthday Darren happy freaking

happy birthday Darren happy freaking birthday Darren yeah big Bigfoot hugs to

birthday Darren yeah big Bigfoot hugs to

birthday Darren yeah big Bigfoot hugs to you my friend your gorgeous awesome

you my friend your gorgeous awesome

you my friend your gorgeous awesome amazing thoughtful wife Georgia who

amazing thoughtful wife Georgia who

amazing thoughtful wife Georgia who wrote to us to tell us about your

wrote to us to tell us about your

wrote to us to tell us about your birthday and about your Bigfoot love and

birthday and about your Bigfoot love and

birthday and about your Bigfoot love and that you're a very big man holy crap

that you're a very big man holy crap

that you're a very big man holy crap you're tall six foot ten well that's

you're tall six foot ten well that's

you're tall six foot ten well that's really towering he is part Bigfoot

really towering he is part Bigfoot

really towering he is part Bigfoot himself thanks for listening to the show

himself thanks for listening to the show

himself thanks for listening to the show buddy yeah seriously uh love you guys

buddy yeah seriously uh love you guys

buddy yeah seriously uh love you guys thank you for your support out there it

thank you for your support out there it

thank you for your support out there it means a lot to us and we just want to

means a lot to us and we just want to

means a lot to us and we just want to wish you Darren happy birthday and uh

wish you Darren happy birthday and uh

wish you Darren happy birthday and uh thanks to Georgia for writing in

thanks to Georgia for writing in

thanks to Georgia for writing in listeners like you are the backbone of

listeners like you are the backbone of

listeners like you are the backbone of the show and we appreciate you being out

the show and we appreciate you being out

the show and we appreciate you being out there and supporting us on the regular

there and supporting us on the regular

there and supporting us on the regular yes so cheers to you guys have a happy

yes so cheers to you guys have a happy

yes so cheers to you guys have a happy freaking birthday Darren here here you

freaking birthday Darren here here you

freaking birthday Darren here here you guys go enjoy your socks off all right

guys go enjoy your socks off all right

guys go enjoy your socks off all right guys well we hope you enjoyed this

guys well we hope you enjoyed this

guys well we hope you enjoyed this episode oh wait before we go I think we

episode oh wait before we go I think we

episode oh wait before we go I think we have some special people to think that

have some special people to think that

have some special people to think that made this episode possible and at the

made this episode possible and at the

made this episode possible and at the game any of that lists are some extra

game any of that lists are some extra

game any of that lists are some extra special people known here in the hole as

special people known here in the hole as

special people known here in the hole as Sky whale writers Sky whale

we have multiples James Peterson is

we have multiples James Peterson is riding the SkyWheel into the hole

riding the SkyWheel into the hole

riding the SkyWheel into the hole carrying the last name of our great

carrying the last name of our great

carrying the last name of our great grandfather before he changed it to Berg

grandfather before he changed it to Berg

grandfather before he changed it to Berg Peterson really that was a great

Peterson really that was a great

Peterson really that was a great grandfather and it was Antone well this

grandfather and it was Antone well this

grandfather and it was Antone well this is not about us no it's about James

is not about us no it's about James

is not about us no it's about James Peterson Peterson thank you sir so much

Peterson Peterson thank you sir so much

Peterson Peterson thank you sir so much seriously we deeply appreciate your

seriously we deeply appreciate your

seriously we deeply appreciate your efforts yes your generosity yes without

efforts yes your generosity yes without

efforts yes your generosity yes without you you are making us sir Thrive yes and

you you are making us sir Thrive yes and

you you are making us sir Thrive yes and Jeffrey jalamo

Jeffrey jalamo

Jeffrey jalamo [Music]

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is here I think he's been a previous

is here I think he's been a previous supporter but now he has climbed up on

supporter but now he has climbed up on

supporter but now he has climbed up on that whale and he's riding it yes

that whale and he's riding it yes

that whale and he's riding it yes Jeffrey Jeffrey Jeffrey Ken James and

Jeffrey Jeffrey Jeffrey Ken James and

Jeffrey Jeffrey Jeffrey Ken James and James and James I think you guys

James and James I think you guys

James and James I think you guys seriously so much we sincerely

seriously so much we sincerely

seriously so much we sincerely appreciate the sport you are what makes

appreciate the sport you are what makes

appreciate the sport you are what makes the difference in the hole and now on to

the difference in the hole and now on to

the difference in the hole and now on to the remaining special people of the

the remaining special people of the

the remaining special people of the evening black-eyed cool kids and up

evening black-eyed cool kids and up

evening black-eyed cool kids and up welcome to

welcome to

welcome to coming in hot with the hair on their

coming in hot with the hair on their

coming in hot with the hair on their back and the Flaming their chest and a

back and the Flaming their chest and a

back and the Flaming their chest and a roofing their growl it's a dog man

roofing their growl it's a dog man

roofing their growl it's a dog man Whisperer known as Samwise Joe I

Whisperer known as Samwise Joe I

Whisperer known as Samwise Joe I recognize that name from YouTube chats

recognize that name from YouTube chats

recognize that name from YouTube chats Samwise joke

Samwise joke

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witty jokes in there on that stream yeah

witty jokes in there on that stream yeah live chat Guys YouTube every other

live chat Guys YouTube every other

live chat Guys YouTube every other Sunday before we Premiere you'll see

Sunday before we Premiere you'll see

Sunday before we Premiere you'll see Samwise there thank you so much uh Noel

Samwise there thank you so much uh Noel

Samwise there thank you so much uh Noel Le Bruce is here Noelle what a pretty

Le Bruce is here Noelle what a pretty

Le Bruce is here Noelle what a pretty name there's a beautiful name welcome to

name there's a beautiful name welcome to

name there's a beautiful name welcome to the show the whole Christmas is coming

the show the whole Christmas is coming

the show the whole Christmas is coming yes it is it's always Christmas when

yes it is it's always Christmas when

yes it is it's always Christmas when Noel's in the hole Jake or huggett hi

Noel's in the hole Jake or huggett hi

Noel's in the hole Jake or huggett hi Jacob I don't remember you I'll take a

Jacob I don't remember you I'll take a

Jacob I don't remember you I'll take a hug Shaker had that great dog Man story

hug Shaker had that great dog Man story

hug Shaker had that great dog Man story yeah oh yeah that was excellent well now

yeah oh yeah that was excellent well now

yeah oh yeah that was excellent well now you're a dog man Whisperer so oh next

you're a dog man Whisperer so oh next

you're a dog man Whisperer so oh next time you run into him you can whisper

time you run into him you can whisper

time you run into him you can whisper your way into his heart shaker

your way into his heart shaker

your way into his heart shaker the dog man oh my dog just stood up

the dog man oh my dog just stood up

the dog man oh my dog just stood up because his name is Jake No when I said

because his name is Jake No when I said

because his name is Jake No when I said jakeer adorbs welcome in thank you jaker

jakeer adorbs welcome in thank you jaker

jakeer adorbs welcome in thank you jaker you're a sweetheart Copeland K another

you're a sweetheart Copeland K another

you're a sweetheart Copeland K another Dogman whisper Holdman K welcome to

Dogman whisper Holdman K welcome to

Dogman whisper Holdman K welcome to welcome kotlin come on in Colton is it

welcome kotlin come on in Colton is it

welcome kotlin come on in Colton is it Colton or Colton Colton oh Colton I said

Colton or Colton Colton oh Colton I said

Colton or Colton Colton oh Colton I said Colten Copeland Colton we love you we

Colten Copeland Colton we love you we

Colten Copeland Colton we love you we really appreciate it uh come on into the

really appreciate it uh come on into the

really appreciate it uh come on into the hole welcome to be here Amanda E slack

hole welcome to be here Amanda E slack

hole welcome to be here Amanda E slack all right cut her some slack she's

all right cut her some slack she's

all right cut her some slack she's supporting the show I don't know she's

supporting the show I don't know she's

supporting the show I don't know she's right on track to be in the hole that's

right on track to be in the hole that's

right on track to be in the hole that's right thank you so much Amanda yes Jenny

right thank you so much Amanda yes Jenny

right thank you so much Amanda yes Jenny Fields hi oh the fields of Jenny yes if

Fields hi oh the fields of Jenny yes if

Fields hi oh the fields of Jenny yes if you build it Jenny will come that's

you build it Jenny will come that's

you build it Jenny will come that's right to the hole Jenny Fields the

right to the hole Jenny Fields the

right to the hole Jenny Fields the belief hole please holes Grays in your

belief hole please holes Grays in your

belief hole please holes Grays in your field I don't know thank you thank you

field I don't know thank you thank you

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to be here let's move along we do

to be here let's move along we do appreciate it Thomas orezo is a dog man

appreciate it Thomas orezo is a dog man

appreciate it Thomas orezo is a dog man Whisperer at the door of the hole Tomas

Whisperer at the door of the hole Tomas

Whisperer at the door of the hole Tomas welcome in thank you for coming

welcome in thank you for coming

welcome in thank you for coming sincerely Thomas we love you Michelle

sincerely Thomas we love you Michelle

sincerely Thomas we love you Michelle Hill hi another dog man Whisperer

Hill hi another dog man Whisperer

Hill hi another dog man Whisperer Michelle climb up to the top and see

Michelle climb up to the top and see

Michelle climb up to the top and see what you can see from Michelle Hill the

what you can see from Michelle Hill the

what you can see from Michelle Hill the world of the Future Okay the world of

world of the Future Okay the world of

world of the Future Okay the world of the future Michelle uh oh this is a

the future Michelle uh oh this is a

the future Michelle uh oh this is a pretty name Julissa Needham oh Julissa

pretty name Julissa Needham oh Julissa

pretty name Julissa Needham oh Julissa it's soft and fluttering and yes welcome

it's soft and fluttering and yes welcome

it's soft and fluttering and yes welcome julisa we're happy to have you oh coming

julisa we're happy to have you oh coming

julisa we're happy to have you oh coming from the highlands cat McLeod is here

from the highlands cat McLeod is here

from the highlands cat McLeod is here all right there can be only one there

all right there can be only one there

all right there can be only one there can be only one cat McLeod I hope you

can be only one cat McLeod I hope you

can be only one cat McLeod I hope you get that Highlander reference we

get that Highlander reference we

get that Highlander reference we appreciate you being here cat welcoming

appreciate you being here cat welcoming

appreciate you being here cat welcoming sincerely who's the dog man Whisperer

sincerely who's the dog man Whisperer

sincerely who's the dog man Whisperer should have said uh Marshall Doyle hi

should have said uh Marshall Doyle hi

should have said uh Marshall Doyle hi welcome to be here oh Marshall yes

welcome to be here oh Marshall yes

welcome to be here oh Marshall yes Marshall Marshall Doylestown is next to

Marshall Marshall Doylestown is next to

Marshall Marshall Doylestown is next to Marshallville yes that's true well that

Marshallville yes that's true well that

Marshallville yes that's true well that is weird look at that synchronicities

is weird look at that synchronicities

is weird look at that synchronicities welcome to be here yes Sean Rita is here

welcome to be here yes Sean Rita is here

welcome to be here yes Sean Rita is here hi Sean what's up welcome well why

hi Sean what's up welcome well why

hi Sean what's up welcome well why couldn't we have two first names for a

couldn't we have two first names for a

couldn't we have two first names for a last name like John Stephanie

last name like John Stephanie

last name like John Stephanie yeah I'd like that John Jacob John David

yeah I'd like that John Jacob John David

yeah I'd like that John Jacob John David John Jacob General Harris Smith I'm

John Jacob General Harris Smith I'm

John Jacob General Harris Smith I'm smitten with Sean okay I'm gonna move

smitten with Sean okay I'm gonna move

smitten with Sean okay I'm gonna move along now let's do that thank you Sean

along now let's do that thank you Sean

along now let's do that thank you Sean we do sincerely appreciate it uh Brooke

we do sincerely appreciate it uh Brooke

we do sincerely appreciate it uh Brooke McKinnon hi oh hi welcome to thank you

McKinnon hi oh hi welcome to thank you

McKinnon hi oh hi welcome to thank you to have you here hey Brooke yes hey

to have you here hey Brooke yes hey

to have you here hey Brooke yes hey Brooke keep on babbling just a very cash

Brooke keep on babbling just a very cash

Brooke keep on babbling just a very cash comment from time hey bro hey Brookie uh

comment from time hey bro hey Brookie uh

comment from time hey bro hey Brookie uh Savannah Willis is a dog man Whisperer

Savannah Willis is a dog man Whisperer

Savannah Willis is a dog man Whisperer yes all right Savannah what a freaking

yes all right Savannah what a freaking

yes all right Savannah what a freaking hero let her out what is he talking

hero let her out what is he talking

hero let her out what is he talking about

about

about not you like she'll damage it yeah

not you like she'll damage it yeah

not you like she'll damage it yeah because she's dangerous yes because she

because she's dangerous yes because she

because she's dangerous yes because she is a Reaper girl exactly I don't know

is a Reaper girl exactly I don't know

is a Reaper girl exactly I don't know what women like Reaper girl that's an

what women like Reaper girl that's an

what women like Reaper girl that's an email welcome in Savannah uh cat Nicole

email welcome in Savannah uh cat Nicole

email welcome in Savannah uh cat Nicole Snyder hi yes I like that Snyders of

Snyder hi yes I like that Snyders of

Snyder hi yes I like that Snyders of Hanover what's that the schneiders of

Hanover what's that the schneiders of

Hanover what's that the schneiders of Hanover a chip company yeah

Hanover a chip company yeah

Hanover a chip company yeah they do make great chips you make

they do make great chips you make

they do make great chips you make pretzels and they're local I don't

pretzels and they're local I don't

pretzels and they're local I don't understand why Adam doesn't like my

understand why Adam doesn't like my

understand why Adam doesn't like my Snyders of Hanover oh is that from Chad

Snyders of Hanover oh is that from Chad

Snyders of Hanover oh is that from Chad yeah I remember that's an old school

yeah I remember that's an old school

yeah I remember that's an old school inside that's a throwback to one of my

inside that's a throwback to one of my

inside that's a throwback to one of my past on friends yeah we missed your chat

past on friends yeah we missed your chat

past on friends yeah we missed your chat rest in peace Chad thank you Kat thank

rest in peace Chad thank you Kat thank

rest in peace Chad thank you Kat thank you cat meow sincerely Bob with a bee

you cat meow sincerely Bob with a bee

you cat meow sincerely Bob with a bee better than a c better than a g better

better than a c better than a g better

better than a c better than a g better than a better than me Bob with a B that

than a better than me Bob with a B that

than a better than me Bob with a B that was a whole training thing at Starbucks

was a whole training thing at Starbucks

was a whole training thing at Starbucks you couldn't be too friendly to buy with

you couldn't be too friendly to buy with

you couldn't be too friendly to buy with a bee because there's other Bob's in

a bee because there's other Bob's in

a bee because there's other Bob's in line don't make other Bobs feel bad

line don't make other Bobs feel bad

line don't make other Bobs feel bad really but you're a super special about

really but you're a super special about

really but you're a super special about with the bee you're you could be honored

with the bee you're you could be honored

with the bee you're you could be honored in our line it definitely sounds like a

in our line it definitely sounds like a

in our line it definitely sounds like a cartoon it does Bob with the bee uh

cartoon it does Bob with the bee uh

cartoon it does Bob with the bee uh David Westbrooks welcome to be high in

David Westbrooks welcome to be high in

David Westbrooks welcome to be high in here all right welcome in David our

here all right welcome in David our

here all right welcome in David our father's name yeah oh I like that little

father's name yeah oh I like that little

father's name yeah oh I like that little cowboy action there Westbrook yes

William Moore is here

William Moore is here more of what is the question yes more of

more of what is the question yes more of

more of what is the question yes more of will yeah more of the whole spooky night

will yeah more of the whole spooky night

will yeah more of the whole spooky night on the William Morris welcome to be here

on the William Morris welcome to be here

on the William Morris welcome to be here brother Matthew P Neal it's good to see

brother Matthew P Neal it's good to see

brother Matthew P Neal it's good to see you friend nice P Neil Matthew P and

you friend nice P Neil Matthew P and

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Neil it's a middle initial oh n-e-i-l

Neil it's a middle initial oh n-e-i-l yes okay n-e-a-l okay

yes okay n-e-a-l okay

yes okay n-e-a-l okay thank you for being here yeah we

thank you for being here yeah we

thank you for being here yeah we sincerely appreciate it greasements

sincerely appreciate it greasements

sincerely appreciate it greasements merely uh we got two dog men man's dog

merely uh we got two dog men man's dog

merely uh we got two dog men man's dog man's coming in the hole the two dog man

man's coming in the hole the two dog man

man's coming in the hole the two dog man arriving approaching the hole so get the

arriving approaching the hole so get the

arriving approaching the hole so get the treats out get the treats out that's

treats out get the treats out that's

treats out get the treats out that's more welcome I was gonna say bat in the

more welcome I was gonna say bat in the

more welcome I was gonna say bat in the hatches uh bad fish yes and oh my gosh

hatches uh bad fish yes and oh my gosh

hatches uh bad fish yes and oh my gosh dude this is so weird Badfish thank you

dude this is so weird Badfish thank you

dude this is so weird Badfish thank you so much brother and David Wise excellent

so much brother and David Wise excellent

so much brother and David Wise excellent this is so bizarre so damn wise I know

this is so bizarre so damn wise I know

this is so bizarre so damn wise I know that name I Google it I swear to God

that name I Google it I swear to God

that name I Google it I swear to God guess what it is John this is gonna be

guess what it is John this is gonna be

guess what it is John this is gonna be weird for you too it's the guy who wrote

weird for you too it's the guy who wrote

weird for you too it's the guy who wrote The Aquatic music from Donkey Kong

The Aquatic music from Donkey Kong

The Aquatic music from Donkey Kong Country and I was playing that music

Country and I was playing that music

Country and I was playing that music yeah at that same moment I've been it's

yeah at that same moment I've been it's

yeah at that same moment I've been it's weird I've been listening to the Donkey

weird I've been listening to the Donkey

weird I've been listening to the Donkey Kong Country 1064 music for the past

Kong Country 1064 music for the past

Kong Country 1064 music for the past week it's very calming but I've been

week it's very calming but I've been

week it's very calming but I've been listening to that I Googled David Wise

listening to that I Googled David Wise

listening to that I Googled David Wise and he's the well he has the same name

and he's the well he has the same name

and he's the well he has the same name of the guy who composed that exact news

of the guy who composed that exact news

of the guy who composed that exact news is weird seriously I would say that's

is weird seriously I would say that's

is weird seriously I would say that's you know that's not a very uncommon name

you know that's not a very uncommon name

you know that's not a very uncommon name David Wise yeah that's the first one we

David Wise yeah that's the first one we

David Wise yeah that's the first one we have yeah I'm stuck on the music right

have yeah I'm stuck on the music right

have yeah I'm stuck on the music right but regardless even if it is an uncommon

but regardless even if it is an uncommon

but regardless even if it is an uncommon name it's still uncommon to just have it

name it's still uncommon to just have it

name it's still uncommon to just have it being played while you're listening to

being played while you're listening to

being played while you're listening to something why am I addicted to this

something why am I addicted to this

something why am I addicted to this calming awesome I'll put a link in the

calming awesome I'll put a link in the

calming awesome I'll put a link in the shows we so Chris is also enjoys the

shows we so Chris is also enjoys the

shows we so Chris is also enjoys the music because I didn't leave you out put

music because I didn't leave you out put

music because I didn't leave you out put me in there anyways David Wise that was

me in there anyways David Wise that was

me in there anyways David Wise that was a little uh tangent but just want to say

a little uh tangent but just want to say

a little uh tangent but just want to say brother is it you if you composed it

brother is it you if you composed it

brother is it you if you composed it thank you and if not thank you for

thank you and if not thank you for

thank you and if not thank you for supporting the show as a dog what if he

supporting the show as a dog what if he

supporting the show as a dog what if he did that'd be awesome then I want your

did that'd be awesome then I want your

did that'd be awesome then I want your autograph uh either way I want to try to

autograph uh either way I want to try to

autograph uh either way I want to try to grab because you're a special person

grab because you're a special person

grab because you're a special person okay okay but seriously thank you David

okay okay but seriously thank you David

okay okay but seriously thank you David yes Sarah Collins hi welcome to be here

yes Sarah Collins hi welcome to be here

yes Sarah Collins hi welcome to be here welcome in Sarah

welcome in Sarah

welcome in Sarah with an H or an A doesn't matter Sarah

with an H or an A doesn't matter Sarah

with an H or an A doesn't matter Sarah Collins

Collins

Collins you are welcome in the hole come on in

you are welcome in the hole come on in

you are welcome in the hole come on in the water is warm the opposite of the

the water is warm the opposite of the

the water is warm the opposite of the evil of Darth Vader is James Bader

evil of Darth Vader is James Bader

evil of Darth Vader is James Bader because he is a shadow person of

because he is a shadow person of

because he is a shadow person of interest

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that's a special category that is a very special category of supporter in the

special category of supporter in the

special category of supporter in the hole what was his name again James Bader

hole what was his name again James Bader

hole what was his name again James Bader James Bader that's a cool name that's

James Bader that's a cool name that's

James Bader that's a cool name that's not an actor name yeah or like an action

not an actor name yeah or like an action

not an actor name yeah or like an action star yeah James Bader your parents did

star yeah James Bader your parents did

star yeah James Bader your parents did well let him know thank you

well let him know thank you

well let him know thank you Justin guidison

Justin guidison

Justin guidison is here

is here

is here [Music]

[Music]

[Music] g-y-d-e-s-e-n guidison get us in

g-y-d-e-s-e-n guidison get us in

g-y-d-e-s-e-n guidison get us in whichever one you are we're glad you're

whichever one you are we're glad you're

whichever one you are we're glad you're here they're all perfect in my name yes

here they're all perfect in my name yes

here they're all perfect in my name yes perfect in my name

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I've been here

I am a golden god it's my bedtime this

I am a golden god it's my bedtime this is it is I am the golden god I will

is it is I am the golden god I will

is it is I am the golden god I will reign supreme of this place this place

reign supreme of this place this place

reign supreme of this place this place that's so good our lone supreme or

that's so good our lone supreme or

that's so good our lone supreme or something I alone brain Supreme

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okay uh we're almost done remember wow this is interesting uh was

remember wow this is interesting uh was

remember wow this is interesting uh was was now it was news was new ski or was

was now it was news was new ski or was

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I can think to say it Amber was new ski

I can think to say it Amber was new ski I'm sorry if I said that wrong but we do

I'm sorry if I said that wrong but we do

I'm sorry if I said that wrong but we do appreciate your support Amber thank you

appreciate your support Amber thank you

appreciate your support Amber thank you for being here your precious stone your

for being here your precious stone your

for being here your precious stone your precious stone yes will you trap

precious stone yes will you trap

precious stone yes will you trap mosquitoes so we could harvest the DNA

mosquitoes so we could harvest the DNA

mosquitoes so we could harvest the DNA from dinosaurs lovely water stone yes

from dinosaurs lovely water stone yes

from dinosaurs lovely water stone yes thank you to be here welcome in Dave

thank you to be here welcome in Dave

thank you to be here welcome in Dave Baxter is a freaking dog man Whisperer

Baxter is a freaking dog man Whisperer

Baxter is a freaking dog man Whisperer and maybe a scientist who fights the

and maybe a scientist who fights the

and maybe a scientist who fights the Ninja Turtles David Baxter I knew some

Ninja Turtles David Baxter I knew some

Ninja Turtles David Baxter I knew some Baxters growing up I'm sure you're just

Baxters growing up I'm sure you're just

Baxters growing up I'm sure you're just as good as them probably better I would

as good as them probably better I would

as good as them probably better I would hope so he's a supporter they weren't

hope so he's a supporter they weren't

hope so he's a supporter they weren't very good

but I do now and we're happy to have you

but I do now and we're happy to have you Baxter's back all right okay another

Baxter's back all right okay another

Baxter's back all right okay another another dummy whisper Emily Nichols what

another dummy whisper Emily Nichols what

another dummy whisper Emily Nichols what a pretty name I can give you a dime for

a pretty name I can give you a dime for

a pretty name I can give you a dime for two nickels a dime for tuning that's the

two nickels a dime for tuning that's the

two nickels a dime for tuning that's the change that you would make yes you could

change that you would make yes you could

change that you would make yes you could make changes

Justin devenberg is here all right

Justin devenberg is here all right welcome to be here the devil's in the

welcome to be here the devil's in the

welcome to be here the devil's in the devonbergs devil is in the details

devonbergs devil is in the details

devonbergs devil is in the details destroyed by the devenbergs because the

destroyed by the devenbergs because the

destroyed by the devenbergs because the devonberg's good people welcome in Zach

devonberg's good people welcome in Zach

devonberg's good people welcome in Zach hi welcome to be here Zach hi hi Zach

hi welcome to be here Zach hi hi Zach

hi welcome to be here Zach hi hi Zach Jack it's just Zach

Jack it's just Zach

Jack it's just Zach Zach coming in for Zach Attack

Zach coming in for Zach Attack

Zach coming in for Zach Attack all right guys we have a whole herd of

all right guys we have a whole herd of

all right guys we have a whole herd of Dogma Whispers coming in so I'm gonna go

Dogma Whispers coming in so I'm gonna go

Dogma Whispers coming in so I'm gonna go through these but with the zest that

through these but with the zest that

through these but with the zest that they deserve Jerry thevenin

they deserve Jerry thevenin

they deserve Jerry thevenin top of the pack what is it feminine or

top of the pack what is it feminine or

top of the pack what is it feminine or theathenon Jerry thieving oh that's a

theathenon Jerry thieving oh that's a

theathenon Jerry thieving oh that's a fun word really cool name it feels good

fun word really cool name it feels good

fun word really cool name it feels good yes thank you Dogman whisper

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[Music] end of the Holy leaps

end of the Holy leaps

end of the Holy leaps those are like types I mean it could be

those are like types I mean it could be

those are like types I mean it could be like a video game boy that's what I was

like a video game boy that's what I was

like a video game boy that's what I was thinking like a little tiggered pop yeah

thinking like a little tiggered pop yeah

thinking like a little tiggered pop yeah yeah anyways leaping links thank you for

yeah anyways leaping links thank you for

yeah anyways leaping links thank you for bringing Dogma whisper and being super

bringing Dogma whisper and being super

bringing Dogma whisper and being super special and generous with your support

special and generous with your support

special and generous with your support another guy May whisper Anna Choate or

another guy May whisper Anna Choate or

another guy May whisper Anna Choate or choti I like chowote I don't know how to

choti I like chowote I don't know how to

choti I like chowote I don't know how to say your name welcome in either both are

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pretty I like all forms of it I probably neither of those are probably right we

neither of those are probably right we

neither of those are probably right we are sorry Anna we do our best we do but

are sorry Anna we do our best we do but

are sorry Anna we do our best we do but we seriously you're a dog whisperer and

we seriously you're a dog whisperer and

we seriously you're a dog whisperer and we owe it to you so I'll look it up

we owe it to you so I'll look it up

we owe it to you so I'll look it up later and I'm gonna personally email you

later and I'm gonna personally email you

later and I'm gonna personally email you and just thank you Anna Anna is my

and just thank you Anna Anna is my

and just thank you Anna Anna is my favorite my favorite female name one of

favorite my favorite female name one of

favorite my favorite female name one of my favorite is it my top three two

my favorite is it my top three two

my favorite is it my top three two definitely it's classic uh it's all

definitely it's classic uh it's all

definitely it's classic uh it's all right

right

right shut your face and finally our final

shut your face and finally our final

shut your face and finally our final supporter to be mentioned tonight at the

supporter to be mentioned tonight at the

supporter to be mentioned tonight at the black eyed cool kids here knob is

black eyed cool kids here knob is

black eyed cool kids here knob is chastity Hayes yes beautiful Chastity

chastity Hayes yes beautiful Chastity

chastity Hayes yes beautiful Chastity Hayes we're happy to have you thank you

Hayes we're happy to have you thank you

Hayes we're happy to have you thank you for being here Chastity thank you for

for being here Chastity thank you for

for being here Chastity thank you for being here yes we like you it's cleared

being here yes we like you it's cleared

being here yes we like you it's cleared of the haze when Chastity Hayes is here

of the haze when Chastity Hayes is here

of the haze when Chastity Hayes is here there you go rephrase the days when

there you go rephrase the days when

there you go rephrase the days when Chastity Hayes plays in the maze in the

Chastity Hayes plays in the maze in the

Chastity Hayes plays in the maze in the blue hole it's been a long day the Maze

blue hole it's been a long day the Maze

blue hole it's been a long day the Maze of the people all right guys thank you

of the people all right guys thank you

of the people all right guys thank you seriously thank you so much all joking

seriously thank you so much all joking

seriously thank you so much all joking and Ridiculousness aside you guys are

and Ridiculousness aside you guys are

and Ridiculousness aside you guys are burning the fires to keep the show warm

burning the fires to keep the show warm

burning the fires to keep the show warm yes well we hope you guys enjoyed this

yes well we hope you guys enjoyed this

yes well we hope you guys enjoyed this part of our anthology of Ouija boardness

part of our anthology of Ouija boardness

part of our anthology of Ouija boardness Ouija boardness you guys want to hear

Ouija boardness you guys want to hear

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more we have one in the expansion and one in the archive yeah we go deep into

one in the archive yeah we go deep into

one in the archive yeah we go deep into the history and some real horrific

the history and some real horrific

the history and some real horrific stories honestly the Zozo one carried

stories honestly the Zozo one carried

stories honestly the Zozo one carried with it many stories from uh Ouija

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plath's experience of writing over

plath's experience of writing over decades through the help of Ouija board

decades through the help of Ouija board

decades through the help of Ouija board with her husband the crazy Fallout they

with her husband the crazy Fallout they

with her husband the crazy Fallout they had in her relationship so we'll put

had in her relationship so we'll put

had in her relationship so we'll put links to those in the show notes if you

links to those in the show notes if you

links to those in the show notes if you guys want to check those out yeah you're

guys want to check those out yeah you're

guys want to check those out yeah you're an expansion member if you're not sign

an expansion member if you're not sign

an expansion member if you're not sign up and uh as always thank you guys so

up and uh as always thank you guys so

up and uh as always thank you guys so much and uh stay safe out there starve

much and uh stay safe out there starve

much and uh stay safe out there starve those ghouls especially this time of

those ghouls especially this time of

those ghouls especially this time of year absolutely

year absolutely

year absolutely and uh

and uh

and uh stay cool stay cool don't be somebody's

stay cool stay cool don't be somebody's

stay cool stay cool don't be somebody's fool this year alright guys we'll see

fool this year alright guys we'll see

fool this year alright guys we'll see you next time on unbelievable

got stronger not on the pencils the pole

got stronger not on the pencils the pole for more like being in a relationship

for more like being in a relationship

for more like being in a relationship with a boy who mystified you

with a boy who mystified you

with a boy who mystified you 'd held hands kissed graduated to making

'd held hands kissed graduated to making

'd held hands kissed graduated to making out

out

out but now he wanted to go beneath your

but now he wanted to go beneath your

but now he wanted to go beneath your it's weird to read as a boy I'm a boy

it's weird to read as a boy I'm a boy

it's weird to read as a boy I'm a boy I'm a boy

I'm a boy

I'm a boy [Music]

[Music]

[Music] all right John you're the friend here I

all right John you're the friend here I

all right John you're the friend here I think

think

think let's make a board

let's make a board

let's make a board she's a baby goat

she's a baby goat

she's a baby goat let's make a board

let's make a board

let's make a board let's make a board game

let's make a board game

let's make a board game one of us suggested I couldn't remember

one of us suggested I couldn't remember

one of us suggested I couldn't remember which

which

which we were both nervous and excited about

we were both nervous and excited about

we were both nervous and excited about moving to spiritual second base

[Music]

foreign

foreign things I don't understand by Chad Smith

things I don't understand by Chad Smith

things I don't understand by Chad Smith I don't understand

I don't understand

I don't understand why every time I go to give Adam

why every time I go to give Adam

why every time I go to give Adam jalapeno pieces pretzels he doesn't want

jalapeno pieces pretzels he doesn't want

jalapeno pieces pretzels he doesn't want any because he doesn't want to give him

any because he doesn't want to give him

any because he doesn't want to give him the chance because the brand name of

the chance because the brand name of

the chance because the brand name of Snyder

why they say you have a good career

why they say you have a good career being cruising and there's all his

being cruising and there's all his

being cruising and there's all his catches

catches

catches like the sticker on the schneiders of a

like the sticker on the schneiders of a

like the sticker on the schneiders of a Hanover pretzel bag

Hanover pretzel bag

Hanover pretzel bag says

but I'd have to say is the best pretzels

but I'd have to say is the best pretzels I have ever had

I have ever had

I have ever had [Music]

[Music]

[Music] thank you

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