0:00 hey there it's me necd who is still
0:02 stuck in La which means I won't really
0:04 get to work on all the details or even
0:06 just cover act three until I get back
0:08 home tomorrow however until then I got a
0:11 chance to talk to Christian Ling who is
0:13 the co-creator of Arcane and we got to
0:15 talk about some really important topics
0:18 so if you're wondering uh what's really
0:20 happening with someone like Camille as
0:22 Arin is happening uh this long stream
0:25 might be interesting for you as well as
0:28 the fact that the one scene with Caitlyn
0:29 and VI we got was originally supposed to
0:32 be longer but anyway as I mentioned we
0:35 will get back on the normal videos the
0:36 moment I get back so now just enjoy this
0:40 really long talk about some really
0:42 interesting topics um so yes right now
0:45 we're developing the follow-up projects
0:47 um and you know we're I mean yeah we're
0:50 exploring a bunch of uh directions I
0:52 mean we when you work on something for 9
0:54 years like it's pretty normal and pretty
0:56 expected that you're going to have ideas
0:58 for other stor
1:00 um there's many characters we all I mean
1:02 like every every League player if you
1:04 play the game for like 14 years 15 years
1:07 you're not just going to you're going to
1:08 have your phases where you fall in love
1:10 with a certain Champion right and for us
1:11 it's like we can just look back and go
1:13 like oh which one would be cool to get a
1:15 story so we're really going wide um
1:18 we're looking at every region um and uh
1:21 we really you know now have the ability
1:23 to really focus on building like a slate
1:25 to tell many more stories um continue
1:28 some of them um so uh yeah we're we're
1:32 we're far from done you know I mean this
1:33 is right now A really exciting time for
1:35 everyone for us because um we can
1:38 finally like really focus you know on
1:39 like okay what's next I mean RI acquired
1:41 a part of 4 right yeah was it are now
1:45 the majority stakeholder I st but you
1:48 know no they forti always wanted to kind
1:50 of like retain like their own I don't
1:53 know identity and culture and like
1:55 they're they're look they're a studio
1:57 full of artists truly you right right
2:01 and so um so I think that was always
2:03 something where like they really want to
2:04 retain like you know their own kind of
2:06 idea of who they are and but you know I
2:08 mean we're we're super close I mean I
2:10 consider the founders and the directors
2:12 like you know some of my best friends
2:14 closest friends and so um yeah just
2:17 excited for what we'll do so the main
2:19 like after also people should be aware
2:21 you know spoilers people probably want
2:22 to know so the main feedback that's out
2:26 there right now is Arcane yeah really
2:29 amazing show 10 out of 10 like i' i'
2:31 don't really like the especially
2:33 especially episode 9 is kind of a payoff
2:34 for everything that kind of like was set
2:36 up before mhm there is one one kind of
2:38 feedback is that uh some parts of the
2:40 show probably should have had a little
2:42 bit more time sure
2:44 where some of the scene so some of the
2:46 setups didn't have enough time to like
2:49 really get to the point where they are
2:50 like really really blooming properly
2:52 that's like one kind of feedback and the
2:54 the other kind of feedback
2:56 is again isolated Arcane amazing
3:01 but what's the implication for like the
3:02 greater world or like you know how much
3:05 like now there is a lot of things like
3:06 people are wondering about Swain people
3:08 are wondering about like singed like you
3:09 know there's supposed to be something
3:10 happening with Ionia so how much does
3:13 the team is the team aware of like where
3:16 the story is heading and like how much
3:19 it changed what was there before yes um
3:24 look part of the challenge for us is
3:26 that um you know a lot of the lore
3:30 has been created over 14 15 years by
3:34 different people different teams and now
3:36 you go okay some of the you know a lot
3:38 of the lare Champions was like they were
3:39 is created in isolation right you know
3:42 um you know I mean Oriana is a good
3:45 example you know where like really cool
3:46 story you know Raa I mean I also I like
3:49 her writing you know she she's a friend
3:51 but it it kind of depends like what
3:53 excites us is when Champions meet yeah
3:56 and when Champions interact right and
3:58 the world shouldn't feel small it it
4:00 should feel like it's living breathing
4:03 real world and then everyone has their
4:05 own kind of story but they do interact
4:08 and infl and so that's our job is like
4:10 to to bring things together um yes you
4:12 know the team knows where where things
4:13 are going um uh but the one of the you
4:17 know it's not just us being like Oh what
4:19 can we do that's cool a big part also is
4:21 like yeah like how do we respect what is
4:23 there MH figure out like what is the
4:25 truth of the characters we need to need
4:28 to respect what do people love about the
4:29 champ
4:30 the L that kind of stuff and another
4:32 part which I'll speak to which for me
4:35 personally is sometimes a bit scary mhm
4:38 is that when you make something like
4:41 Arcane suddenly what you're doing is not
4:44 just for this like League audience or
4:47 even gaming audience suddenly it needs
4:48 to stand and Stand Tall next to Game of
4:52 Thrones House of drag Marvel Star Wars
4:55 like and
4:58 so to be really honest and also as like
5:01 a true gamer like there's some stuff in
5:03 gamer in gaming IPS that sometimes just
5:05 don't cut it right you know like and
5:07 sometimes that's as simple as like a
5:08 visual design M or or sometimes just
5:11 also like what do you do with the story
5:12 you know so it's a delicate balance we
5:14 don't want to just bulldo things you
5:15 know so I can so I see I kind of want to
5:17 ask you something but I'm pretty sure
5:19 you cannot answer that so so when you
5:21 were working on Arcane did you take into
5:23 consideration stuff like blitzcrank or
5:26 Camille do you have like at least like a
5:28 hat Canon of like what's happening with
5:29 those characters yes there there was
5:32 there was there was there was there was
5:36 a story for involving for blitzcrank um
5:40 uh I think I was uh convinced by the
5:43 rest of the team that I was being too
5:45 silly um um you
5:50 know so like because because like now
5:52 that hex is a totally different origin
5:55 yeah you can you're telling me you can
5:57 still pull off something like aill
6:00 yeah I mean yes I mean it's it's hextech
6:04 I mean still exists right and so yeah
6:07 that's one big question because people
6:09 always keep asking like you know is
6:11 hexte gone now now that like Arcane was
6:13 destroyed no no no no no no no um the
6:16 hex core that's a different question
6:17 right hex tech still exists I mean
6:19 that's like uh question is now like can
6:23 can pil keep a lid on it you know right
6:26 um and so and obviously of course you
6:27 have these like these Brilliant Minds
6:29 that really work the at the Forefront of
6:30 it you know Jason Victor and you know
6:32 Jinx um and so um uh and so uh that that
6:38 is a big question but yeah I mean of
6:40 course you know that that that is still
6:41 something look we want to on one side
6:45 people are saying like a there's too
6:46 much going on the other side why aren't
6:48 there more characters that also need to
6:50 have a full story you know it's like
6:52 yeah I wish time was not a consideration
6:56 you know with animation that is one of
6:58 the hardest things the Eon economy is
7:00 much more strict than anything in live
7:02 action you know like yeah if you're in
7:04 the same location you add another scene
7:06 that's that costs money but it's like
7:08 not a behemoth and like an Arcane every
7:11 minute matters so it's it's an
7:14 unfortunate reality see yeah someone
7:16 asked if Heimerdinger can respawn
7:18 because you know like probably needs
7:20 more screen time you know look
7:23 Heimerdinger is my favorite Champion
7:25 personally
7:27 um I'm not done
7:30 with himer Dinger it makes sense there
7:31 is like Theory because okay so let's
7:33 let's like let's do a quick recap right
7:35 of like characters Where are potentially
7:37 dead but does don't really have to be
7:40 because I think the first one was hinger
7:42 who like disappeared but he didn't die
7:44 he was like you know there's the time
7:46 anomaly he's gone so he can be in a in a
7:48 in a separate timeline also yours are
7:50 weird I would I can imagine that if if
7:53 the Arcane explodes it can like like
7:55 suck in essentially like a yal Essence
7:57 and like the magic is like locked in it
7:58 I can imagine that then there was uh
8:01 Jason Victor in theory if they were like
8:04 again like sucked into like Cosmos using
8:06 Victor's you know T into Arcane Victor
8:09 can be turned into like a Celestial
8:10 being now in theory
8:13 Jay might be dead I'm not sure about
8:16 that but you know but like you can if
8:18 you really wanted to there are ties you
8:20 can bring those characters back still
8:23 Jinx I doubt his dead I I'm not going I
8:27 know you can't say anything I doubt that
8:29 there's a lot of theories that can kind
8:32 of prove that otherwise ambessa probably
8:34 dead there's no way ambessa I think is
8:36 locked in she's dead uh I'm not sure
8:39 there was anyone else so like you you
8:40 you essentially got a Penta Kill from
8:42 the penta kill four of them can be alive
8:44 anda's dead I think 's gone but yeah um
8:48 I don't even know what the point was now
8:50 oh yeah no war we no yeah it is a p no
8:53 it's it's a double kill now at least
8:54 with Essa and Warwick Warick see when I
8:57 think it might happen it is possible if
8:59 wari is like torn to shreds somewhere
9:01 down there cinched can still pick him up
9:04 turn him into Like the Wolf that he's
9:05 going to be in game or maybe we don't
9:07 know now
9:09 um yeah I don't know what the point was
9:12 what was the point I don't even know uh
9:14 but yeah uh you know plot armor not
9:16 really a thing in Arcane I also remember
9:18 the first time when we talked in uh we
9:21 had a quick chat when the original
9:22 premiere of season one came out I
9:24 remember one of my questions was like
9:26 you know League of Legends uh partially
9:29 game for kids it's like PG13 or
9:31 something like that you know how much
9:32 are you afraid of like showing blood so
9:35 uh well I hope I answer that I think you
9:38 said like yeah you know we want to be
9:40 respectful that was actually really hard
9:43 because there was like so first of all
9:46 like it's so complex because and which I
9:49 don't well I mean I do understand every
9:51 country has a different rating system
9:53 yeah yeah yeah so like no cigar for
9:55 graves in some countries but so like it
9:58 was wild when we made the first season
10:00 it was like oh okay so there's going to
10:02 be like 17 different ways of how certain
10:05 things are allowed or not allowed you
10:07 know like specific kind of countries you
10:09 know histories you know like in in
10:11 whatever in like in England you had like
10:13 a lot of like knife crime and that
10:14 created very specific things in Germany
10:16 there's like much more stct on smoking
10:17 and then but other stuff's okay in
10:18 France everything goes because France um
10:22 and so like every country had a
10:23 different rating and so but the problem
10:24 was the ratings often say okay if you're
10:27 advertising or you're connecting to a
10:28 game the the rating of Arcane will
10:30 affect the rating of league right so we
10:33 may actually like legally lose a certain
10:36 part of our audience if we go too far
10:40 with Arcane so we try to go do you not
10:42 think you went too far in some
10:44 scenes look we have our rating and
10:47 that's all I need to that's all I need
10:48 to care about okay okay was it
10:50 officially rated yes it was yes it was
10:52 yes it was did they see did they see the
10:54 Caitlyn and VI scene yes they did did
10:56 that went for we this is the dialed back
10:58 version this is the dial back W it was
11:00 longer yes because I was like this is
11:03 going this is going for a while oh it's
11:04 still going oh it's still going and it
11:06 went for quite a while they were telling
11:08 me originally that was more yes uh we
11:12 got a slap on the wrist um for like all
11:15 right your Le Legend is going to be will
11:17 you ever show will you ever show the
11:19 original pitch I there is a really cool
11:22 fandom that probably like that probably
11:25 on some French hard drive um that is a
11:28 bur getting hecked now yeah yeah yeah
11:31 yeah
11:32 yeah yeah I yeah yeah people like that
11:35 director's cut see there's chibin a
11:38 French animator also I saw him yeah yeah
11:40 he he's aware they very French yeah uh
11:44 so um where do I go from this
11:50 um so you did have a lot of Side
11:53 characters yeah
11:55 that had really cool death scenes for
11:58 example how did you so where you where
12:01 you where are you watching the feedback
12:02 from like the SE the axes they were
12:05 coming out for like people like bagging
12:07 like you know Isa isa's dead or isa's
12:09 not dead and there was like a massive
12:10 worry about that and I was just sitting
12:12 here like Isa was used as an excellent
12:15 tool to bring Jinx back to census but at
12:18 the end Jinx is still kind of mad m to
12:22 me it was obvious she has to die but
12:25 like I'm trying to think
12:30 was there a side character that like
12:32 didn't die hold on that a good question
12:34 because cler Milo dead Lor dead actually
12:38 the entire kitlyn Squad is dead Maddie
12:41 one of the best death scenes Maddy was
12:44 excellent
12:46 die oh yeah he got choked but he
12:49 survived yeah on the gray
12:51 yeah yeah I mean yeah M Maddie you know
12:56 so do you tell me if that is so actually
13:00 how did yeah yeah yeah so how did how
13:03 did actually so when Arcane was
13:05 originally when it or originally came
13:07 out yeah you were you making it with the
13:10 idea that it wasn't
13:12 Canon
13:14 um to be honest when we started Arcane
13:18 we were really on an island look look we
13:21 always set out to tell the story of
13:23 these Champions period like there it's
13:26 just that I think the company wasn't
13:28 ready ready yet to say like hey we have
13:30 these massive games that we're going to
13:34 like now you know finally change or like
13:38 or or like like Risk the direction of
13:41 the IP on something we we don't we don't
13:43 even know and I agree with that by the
13:44 way like we didn't know we were Arcane
13:47 was the first on so many levels for us
13:49 as people for like this kind of
13:50 adaptation we just needed to like prove
13:53 that like this is good you know and like
13:56 this that we can do this and so like
13:58 yeah I mean but we've always always
14:01 always created this as like these are
14:03 the stories of v and James and Jay and
14:05 and Caitlyn like this is these are their
14:07 stories so yes I mean there are there
14:08 are Canon it's
14:10 just we had to grow the confidence just
14:13 as you know right but it but in the
14:15 middle of that like now there was the
14:17 call like all right everything that
14:18 comes from the r Cannon which means like
14:20 Arcane was now included yeah has that
14:23 affected the storytelling like in the
14:24 middle of like you writing it s so so
14:28 because at the beginning Arcane was like
14:30 you know maybe Canon maybe not it's like
14:31 you know we just want to tell a good
14:32 story and then there was like a hard
14:34 like loog in now it's Canon yeah has it
14:37 has it changed any of the story lines um
14:40 it hasn't changed the story lines I
14:42 think if H I think we definitely try to
14:47 just be more aware of like what does
14:50 that mean for the different expressions
14:52 for the games you know for for for other
14:53 things you want to do not really all
14:57 right so okay next thing I want to touch
15:00 on is like when you have a look at the
15:04 details that are in arcade M how much of
15:06 that is your input how much of this is
15:08 just for Te having
15:09 fun
15:11 um I would
15:13 say the vast I mean most of it like
15:18 comes from from from our team in LA
15:20 because we just know the game best but
15:22 there are always the things where the
15:25 like there's a lot of league players
15:26 among forti in fact I remember a mod
15:29 once I was walking through the through
15:31 the uh floor in at forti and I walked up
15:35 and and and and it was like late in the
15:37 evening and there was a bunch of people
15:39 and I saw they were playing league but
15:40 they like all tabbed out of the game
15:42 they oh we're supposed to be working but
15:44 I was like guys
15:46 like don't like this is like this is
15:48 great like this is just they'll make you
15:49 better in your job you'll recognize the
15:52 opportunities when you work on this
15:53 stuff so there's a lot of passion for
15:55 for the game there's a lot of leag
15:57 players at forti and so they have also
15:59 ideas where like you know um they find
16:02 Easter eggs and sometimes they like then
16:04 just like do something that's too off
16:06 the- wall but but it's it's um yeah I
16:09 mean honestly I would say it's like 70%
16:12 us and 30% forti having ideas and then
16:15 we talk about it I agree yeah I saw
16:17 someone ask about the void do you want
16:19 to touch on that how much how much was
16:21 the void included in the story well yeah
16:25 I don't want to say too much because
16:27 it'll you know we want to we want to
16:29 make that part of the story I will say
16:31 that certainly when people in in pilter
16:36 and z and like hexte happens right and
16:38 Jason Victor invent this amazing
16:39 technology a little bit like how they're
16:42 not fully by by the way yes my name I'm
16:44 Christian uh Christian link yeah should
16:46 be obvious come on guys don't you
16:48 recognize the wonderful uh hat yeah yeah
16:51 my face under this wonderful hat uh so
16:54 they really didn't understand like what
16:57 powerful technology they they created
17:00 and what that means for like what other
17:02 like nox is showing up P was kind of
17:04 like caught off guard they don't right
17:06 that's not really on their radar because
17:07 they don't really are part of they're
17:09 not really part of world politics right
17:11 so similarly what they're also doing
17:14 with hextech and and and like the use of
17:17 like there's massive amounts of the
17:19 Arcane and hextech kind of being used in
17:21 in these two Theses and so there is a
17:26 connection between you know the Arcane
17:29 and the void I but that people in in
17:33 piltover and zon don't even they don't
17:35 know what the for the void is right you
17:37 know um so yeah at this point I mean
17:40 yeah I I also saw just like someone
17:42 freak out so you know Champions
17:44 canonically die now uh yes pretty much
17:47 right yes look I mean you want real
17:50 stories or not you know yeah also
17:52 someone about sarapen that's a good one
17:54 I'm not sure if you really thought about
17:56 that one um how many actually like how
17:58 how many champions did you take into
17:59 consideration when you were doing this
18:01 because like all of them because it's
18:02 it's massive yeah honestly all of them
18:05 it's just do do they do they have a
18:07 natural way to be part of the story
18:09 because I just also think like there's
18:10 time like there's different eras in
18:14 every region you know um so this is
18:16 really like the the the origin story of
18:19 hextech and kind of what and the people
18:20 that are connected to it and the people
18:22 that are kind of stuck in this in this
18:23 era I you know Camille um and also toy
18:28 seraphine is just that's that's like a
18:29 you know the Next Generation okay also
18:32 there was one okay so there was one
18:34 thing that people pointed out which is
18:35 interesting um Swain yeah kind of drops
18:38 in or rather D Raven right kind of like
18:41 drops in some sort of
18:43 Noxen yes drops in strangely has number
18:47 of eyes and people and people were like
18:49 all right so how does the timeline work
18:50 now because in theory SW is supposed to
18:52 get the power after the invasion of
18:54 Ionia
18:55 yeah but but us originally it was singed
18:59 who created the weapons for the noxians
19:01 to invade Ionia which sure if if it gets
19:05 red gun it might be someone else who
19:06 made the weapons now or maybe it does
19:08 end up being cinched eventually mhm but
19:10 like people are concerned that like you
19:12 know now that we saw the Raven yeah it
19:14 means that the invasion is over ofia
19:18 yeah that's like that's the implication
19:20 I can probably explain it still using my
19:22 theories and like you know just if I
19:24 really want to I can justify the bird
19:25 being there even before like The
19:26 Invasion yeah well I mean so first of
19:30 all it it really there's a few different
19:32 things to that right one is um SW yes
19:36 like you know he makes the I don't know
19:38 how much want talk about stor are the
19:40 stories you want to tell um but it it
19:43 depends on like how much time you think
19:44 passes in between these you know the
19:46 point from when Swain returns from The
19:48 Invasion and that makes this deal you
19:50 know with with the pack with the demon
19:51 to the point when he's like you know
19:53 like you know the things unfold with
19:56 dark world and everything like how much
19:58 time is that that's that makes a
19:59 difference right um is are we pass that
20:01 point is it kind of in between like so I
20:03 think there's a lot to there's a lot to
20:04 consider here because like um what to me
20:07 what's so interesting
20:09 about someone who could have be
20:12 connected who could be connected to
20:13 these Ravens which may or may not be
20:15 someone uh is that is that you know I
20:18 mean what I find really cool about Swain
20:22 is that he is in his previous life he
20:25 was just a really um smart art
20:30 really really prolific military leader
20:34 right and you just have to think about
20:37 like how much did he really know about
20:40 like the the history of you know magic
20:44 the arcan in her Tera and what happened
20:46 in these previous Wars you know rumors
20:48 suddenly he has this additional
20:51 knowledge you know from uh a demon who's
20:54 old who's who knows a lot about like
20:57 what powers are slumbering in the world
21:00 and so um there is like a certain amount
21:04 of like someone like swin will do his
21:07 homework before he really kicks some big
21:09 steps loose right right so um I'm I
21:14 think that's really
21:16 exciting um because there is like a a
21:20 shrewdness you know and like a and like
21:22 a
21:23 makavelian view of the world that um
21:26 that I think is is going to be awesome
21:28 to you know to explore someday maybe
21:31 maybe not so can you so can you can you
21:34 confirm the timeline for built over or
21:37 is it too much uh as in like as in like
21:40 in relation to like what's happening
21:41 around R Tera I mean I again I don't
21:45 know uh not really yet like again like
21:48 we we're definitely thinking about like
21:50 the whole concept that's also why
21:52 obviously we're the show right but um I
21:56 yeah um yeah I gu I'll leave there okay
21:59 sure uh i s question cryptic I know but
22:02 you know no yeah yeah makes sense makes
22:03 sense things are things are being worked
22:06 at I mean even trir confirmed that like
22:07 you know there's going to be more things
22:09 okay yeah uh Piano guy is Jin I strongly
22:12 doubt it I don't know do you want to
22:13 talk about that one was it just like a
22:15 little Cameo that happened uh because
22:17 originally in season one you used I
22:19 believe the the the director of the of
22:22 the score for like
22:24 Cameo director score what do you mean uh
22:26 there was a there was an director of and
22:29 I don't know what like some like audio
22:30 side of Arcane was put in as a cameo he
22:33 was a guy playing at the Opera like
22:35 different instruments and stuff like
22:36 that like people originally thought that
22:38 Jin was in act one but that was a game
22:40 I'm trying to think which one that was
22:41 uh I remember that I remember that yeah
22:43 yeah yeah yeah yeah a you director who
22:45 was that I can probably if I really
22:46 wanted to I could probably just like BL
22:48 it's like sometimes oh me the ray thing
22:50 the violinist yes
22:53 yeah that was funny yeah that was Ray
22:55 you know also a friend of the team it's
22:57 funny I was like R do you want be a
22:59 absolute psychopath oh yeah he was like
23:02 sign me up um uh but uh yeah that that
23:05 but now the Piano guy is it also
23:06 reference or
23:09 not who knows okay sure okay very
23:14 cryptic uh yes we are reading chat by
23:17 the way any oh there is a lot of people
23:19 who asked about uh wari yeah uh
23:22 specifically yeah uh Arcane is still
23:24 like paying attention to making sure
23:25 that like the characters are close to
23:27 what we can see in the game so like the
23:28 fandom doesn't ex you know freak out
23:30 yeah with Warick yeah that was a big
23:32 change visually from like the character
23:34 that we know in the game
23:36 yeah was it intentional was there like
23:38 thought given behind that like what's
23:40 the what's the process there the process
23:42 really was that
23:46 um for the for the for the emotional
23:49 connection for the story that really
23:51 matters to us on the character side we
23:53 wanted to see enough of Vander MH you
23:56 know and like really still recognize
23:57 kind of like there is still still part
23:58 of that human
24:00 inside um and uh you know we're playing
24:04 a little bit also how like with Jinx we
24:06 sometimes really play with the
24:07 proportions um uh around you know how
24:12 how much of powder you can recognize in
24:13 certain moments certain scenes actually
24:16 um uh and
24:19 so uh it something where like we you
24:22 know kind of like the artistic Li on
24:24 those Bo that we you know we needed to
24:26 to make sure that we still connected to
24:27 like the proportions like on some of the
24:28 features the visual features of Vander
24:30 that you kind like there's just enough
24:31 of him left you know right
24:34 yeah I saw a really good question about
24:36 zigs um was eacha based on
24:39 zigs actually what was what was the
24:41 thought process behind the Hat because
24:43 like people are like oh that's an
24:44 obvious like demo reference and I'm just
24:45 sitting here
24:46 like yeah possibly but also well it was
24:49 inspired by like the past story of you
24:51 know kind like there's a lot of like
24:53 underground mining industry and Z you
24:56 know that's really what where it came
24:57 from yeah there you know there there's
24:59 some other uh there's some other
25:02 references I suppose that one could see
25:04 there you know but this is really where
25:05 it was rooted she's she's a child of
25:07 zone right oh yeah hold on that's a fun
25:10 one uh in the in the alternative
25:11 Universe where you had like everyone
25:12 alive everyone happy without hextic
25:14 there was Sil and his eye was fixed yeah
25:18 is it just good medicine or like how
25:20 does that work because normally you know
25:21 usually he would be fixed using Shimmer
25:23 yeah but yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so the
25:25 idea really is that that in that
25:28 World there was really like more of a
25:31 symbiosis between you see like you know
25:34 certain you know enforcers you know that
25:36 that that you wouldn't really just see
25:38 hang out with you know all eyes like
25:39 that that happened in the world so
25:40 there's just more access to that and and
25:42 just more symbiosis between Technologies
25:43 you know um yeah okay people also asking
25:47 about twitch was twitch intended there
25:49 but like right now honestly it doesn't
25:51 make it does not make sense for you to
25:53 not turn twitch the rat into the
25:56 original experiment right
25:59 look it it it
26:03 uh yeah we it has crossed our minds um
26:08 we just never really so so originally it
26:11 was not intended it was kind of like
26:13 just an experiment and then you were
26:15 like y maybe it makes sense we actually
26:17 we actually like we made the pilot and
26:21 then we were like you know this would
26:24 make sense but you know I mean we had a
26:27 different story to tell okay okay yeah I
26:29 mean it's the same as Zach everyone is
26:31 like Zach probably somewhere in s's
26:34 green goop yeah I don't know yeah it's
26:38 look there is there is always like
26:40 there's so many parts um where you
26:45 constantly go like I really would love
26:46 to learn more about the kimars industry
26:49 I would love to go oh yeah rata I mean
26:51 rata is a big one that people are like
26:52 because ranada so originally yeah Sil
26:54 was supposed to be in League or they
26:55 were trying then they like they made the
26:57 mod and they try the gameplay and
26:59 they're like well silco doesn't really
27:01 work so we need another Baron that's
27:03 kind of like a similar Vibe but it's
27:05 like more aggressive we're going to make
27:06 Renada but
27:08 now cam Barons are essentially gone but
27:12 they can be replaced by someone else so
27:14 is is the idea that like maybe in the
27:16 future Rada is going to like come in
27:18 after like the other Barons are yeah I
27:19 would imagine I would imagine
27:22 um look I mean the industries in in Z
27:25 like there's always going to be leaders
27:27 chem baren there's also generational
27:29 thing you know um and so yeah I I mean
27:32 for me grata is like someone that comes
27:35 from you know like uh related to one of
27:39 the c bar and and is someone who kind of
27:41 comes from understanding what that
27:43 underground looks like and that power
27:44 vacuum especially you know um that is
27:47 created after um you know a lot of the
27:50 the the established structure you know
27:51 through CLE also disappears creates a
27:54 huge you know power vacuum where where
27:56 some people will probably be will have a
27:58 certain incentive to say yeah let's try
27:59 to figure out this could exist more pilt
28:01 over other people be like [ __ ] that
28:04 yeah uh I'm got to boost the microphone
28:06 just a little bit more uh can you
28:11 explain because there is a lot of people
28:13 who are I'm going to double that if it's
28:15 too much tell me in chat hold on I'm
28:17 going to try that is it fine should be
28:19 better looks fine yep so far yep we're
28:21 not in red we're good um so can you
28:25 explain the Arcane like a very like you
28:27 know if there's someone who like watches
28:29 it and there's like space goop happening
28:31 and they have no idea what's happening
28:32 can you space goop yep yep yep can you
28:34 explain the space goop the Arcane I mean
28:36 the Arcane really is like uh I mean our
28:39 version of magic okay you know so are
28:41 you talking about like how do they
28:43 because how did it like does it
28:46 originate from hex or is there like yeah
28:49 no I mean the Arcane really is like so
28:53 all of our regions in our IP have a
28:55 relationship with magic right you know
28:58 it's a little bit like you
29:01 know
29:02 um many different regions in our world
29:05 have like you know kind of their
29:07 interpretation or version you know no
29:09 matter if it's religion or if it's
29:10 certain kind of uh uh historical events
29:13 you know so to me like the Arcane is
29:16 like you know one kind of viewpoint
29:19 interpretation of magic you know and so
29:21 what's I think that's also what makes R
29:23 so interesting every every region every
29:25 nation has like some sort of
29:27 relationship with that right and in some
29:30 cases even like destroy it you know and
29:33 others are like weaponize it others are
29:34 like deny the existence others are like
29:36 like be in harmony with it you know and
29:38 and pil of words it's like um kind of
29:41 commodify it and and and and so I think
29:43 that's religious but the Arcane really
29:44 is like the when these characters talk
29:47 about you know um this you know magic
29:50 that they experience in the world um
29:52 that is the Arcane so under the right
29:53 circumstances it can be theoretically
29:56 recreated um well I mean it is
29:59 well yes I would say in in hextech Taps
30:04 into it right like it utilizes it um but
30:08 you know in certain parts like certain
30:10 certain you know we know from rip that
30:11 like some some um individuals are born
30:15 with it you know I mean even Arcane um
30:18 but but there is a way like that's
30:19 that's what's the scary thing about like
30:21 hextech is like it commodifies something
30:23 that there is a a Natural Balance
30:27 beforehand where only certain people you
30:29 know or you know individuals are born
30:32 with it not everybody and suddenly this
30:34 the idea is like everyone could could
30:36 carry it is pretty scary right you know
30:38 especially for people who are special
30:42 because they have it right so um yeah I
30:45 saw people also asking about Victor yeah
30:48 and like what is he now because in my my
30:50 assumption is like really powerful Mage
30:53 that can like tap into the Arcane which
30:55 is unusual because people usually don't
30:57 get to that level yeah I guess it's it
31:00 right yeah um it is a question that um
31:05 is fun to talk about I would say it's
31:06 too early mhm um look but what what's
31:11 different about Victor is the hex core
31:15 right he took things further to a point
31:17 where you know a lot of what Jace has
31:20 done and done in the beginning is like
31:22 single function inventions in many ways
31:25 right like a specific kind of you know
31:27 uh you utility of the can3 like spefic
31:29 runes is used the xcore is a different
31:31 thing right um much more powerful and so
31:36 um yeah I mean I guess I I guess I'll
31:38 leave it there
31:39 yeah uh there's a lot of people still
31:41 asking if Jinx is alive I
31:43 mean up in the air okay up in the air
31:45 figure it out figure it out uh also
31:48 people are still asking if Arin is Canon
31:51 I think that's pretty much confirmed
31:52 that it is Canon also do you have does
31:55 the team have I don't know if that's
31:57 like you who sees into that is there a
32:00 plan to address the other Champions like
32:03 make them in line because like as as I
32:05 believe act two dropped we saw an update
32:08 to like the bio of the Champions who are
32:10 in in Arcane yeah do you know if there
32:11 is a plan to like bring everyone up to
32:13 par with Arcane uh I would think so okay
32:17 yeah that's it okay uh do you want hold
32:22 on I'm going to grab some stuff uh do
32:23 you want to talk about uh the time Loop
32:26 because people people really want to
32:27 know probably like what what was the
32:28 thought behind that like where they
32:30 where also something I Happ to talk
32:31 about I think is like a day after these
32:33 episodes come out okay sure okay okay no
32:36 time Loop uh there was another thing I
32:37 wanted to ask uh what was that uh
32:39 someone's going to bring up a question
32:43 probably
32:44 uh also yeah people are asking chat
32:47 moves pretty fast I'm not used to that
32:49 usually I have like my 300 people we are
32:52 at 7,000 uh
32:54 yeah Mel and lean freaking people are
32:57 just spitting out different Nam you
32:58 don't want make a champion if you want
33:00 Oh Urgot Urgot is a good one did you
33:02 give that any consideration yes um yeah
33:07 I guess not not yet you know he wasn't
33:09 part of the story um I do I do think
33:11 Urgot is really interesting one
33:14 especially with
33:16 um you know I think like what's one of
33:19 the most interesting Parts about Zan is
33:21 like body
33:22 augmentations um and uh uh just like the
33:27 whole idea of like I think pil over you
33:31 know people are generally afraid of like
33:33 meddling
33:35 with human life and human bodies you
33:38 know yeah makes sense and Z is like [ __ ]
33:40 it if it makes life better you know um
33:43 so I think I I'm really interested in
33:45 like seeing more of that you know and
33:48 and there's an Ingenuity you know that
33:50 that lives in in Zan that I think is
33:53 really exciting that was a really good
33:55 question was rise originally a bait like
33:58 did you know that people would be like
33:59 ah the Mage is
34:00 Rise uh we did we didn't know that that
34:04 would be a consideration and and and so
34:07 we we were happy with the with with the
34:10 misdirect let's just say that was that
34:11 was really I mean arane is really good
34:14 at misdirects also one really popular
34:17 character that keeps
34:18 appearing is in the original trailer
34:21 there were like some characters and
34:22 scenes that didn't make it into arcan
34:26 was there like sign significant cut
34:28 content that was to make it in the pilot
34:31 so you know the famous man man with the
34:33 hat yeah yeah yeah um he was actually
34:35 part of so you know you have the the the
34:38 scene with um uh when vender talks to
34:42 Jules and Vern in in the last drop in
34:45 the beginning and in the original pilot
34:48 there was actually a pretty long scene
34:49 where he basically you know they're
34:51 they're actually pressuring hwk into
34:54 like accepting a bad deal and he sits
34:56 down and basically is like hey let me
34:58 tell you a little story about someone
34:59 who tried to do something similar he was
35:01 this guy who thought he's some kind of
35:02 you
35:03 know uh uh edgy guy comes along and um
35:08 before he knows it he loses a few limbs
35:10 you know and so I was like okay you know
35:11 so so just so you know um and
35:15 so
35:17 uh
35:19 eventually uh I think there was like
35:21 some kind of version where like people
35:23 were just like okay how does this you
35:25 know I think for for for league players
35:27 I think there's a desire desire to kind
35:29 like see every detail and learn about
35:31 all these things and I actually I really
35:32 like the scene it it kind of ended up on
35:34 the on the edit editorial chopping block
35:37 you know we going to have to find like
35:38 the structure of the of the pilot um but
35:41 uh that was that was that were there any
35:43 details
35:44 that no one found that were like any
35:48 like big misdirects or anything like big
35:49 that you were trying to hide in I'm
35:51 trying I'm trying to think and you're
35:52 like and you like hit it a little bit
35:53 too well I'm trying to think it's it's
35:57 the first first Seasons like the
35:58 episodes are there it's been so many
36:00 years since we worked on them I'm trying
36:02 to think probably I don't think about
36:05 that I think okay okay okay yeah
36:07 probably was Z but actually into
36:10 consideration I mean it's the same
36:11 question you know going back going going
36:12 back it's the same question where like
36:14 you know everyone was taken into
36:15 consideration but now people are like
36:16 you know Jinx and Eko together yeah
36:20 later eeko meet Zary I'm going to assume
36:23 that the ship of Zer Eko is going to
36:25 crumble real hard now probably
36:29 um honestly I personally haven't gone
36:32 there yet in my head you know um yeah
36:36 okay so was so was was the time bomb
36:39 shape pretty much locked in from the
36:42 beginning
36:46 um I think what we what we talked about
36:49 was
36:50 that Ekko stepping into season 2 has
36:54 really like he's really like aamp
36:57 champion of Z you know and like the
36:58 potential that Z has and um we always
37:01 love the idea of showing what Z can be
37:05 showing Echo with having this moment
37:07 where he kind of finds his Spirit again
37:10 and
37:11 so you know I think what's so cool about
37:16 Ekko and Jinx is that when he tries to
37:19 convince Jinx that there's like a
37:21 different that there's there are there
37:23 is a different there is a version of
37:24 power of her that that that that is so
37:28 different you know and that like is that
37:30 that uh is a whole complete more
37:33 complete person and he's seen it it's
37:37 not like some Theory or him trying to
37:39 convince her I think she can feel that
37:41 when he's
37:43 like that version of powder exists right
37:46 you know and so um I think that's really
37:50 beautiful and it really also was was
37:53 eeko what what eeko needed you know to
37:55 kind of see like the I mean powder is
37:58 such a amazing example of of what Zan
38:01 can be you know and I think that's like
38:03 worth kind of continuing you know their
38:05 story for right see I wanted to dive
38:08 into
38:09 also Oriana how much thought process was
38:12 there behind like the inventions and
38:15 like the technology that cinch is using
38:17 because what I usually do I go frame by
38:19 frame I look at the gadgets and I'm like
38:22 this is probably how they work and you
38:23 know this is what's really happening I
38:24 haven't actually seen because we saw it
38:26 live I don't know if I can probably just
38:27 like find the find the episode somewhere
38:30 because at the end was it at the end of
38:32 episode N9 there is a
38:36 scene where oops let's see one where I
38:41 believe cinched is
38:44 extracting uh
38:47 vendor and I believe uh I want to find
38:51 if I can find find the exact scene
38:53 because there's like half like there's
38:54 like the the the black goop that goes
38:56 into
38:58 vender which like overrides vender
39:00 essentially vender is dead from that
39:02 point on like it's overridden by Victor
39:04 yeah and I think there was a the other
39:05 liquid it went so quickly on stream and
39:08 I was like what if it's possible that
39:10 sky is now in Oriana and that's why that
39:13 you know that's why she's Alive Now MH
39:15 is there like how much thought is given
39:17 into like that entire process like the
39:18 science behind this so um what what we
39:23 thought was really interesting about
39:24 cinched is um
39:29 he you know he was an extremely
39:33 successful and
39:35 influential um what's going on I'm just
39:39 oh their their mods mods mods what
39:42 what's happening it's something happened
39:44 ah whatever someone was spamming
39:45 something doesn't matter okay
39:48 um uh what was it so what's interesting
39:50 about about CCH is that he was you know
39:54 a a scientist you know at the Academy
39:56 you know a colleague of of of hinger but
39:59 when he starts to that's the people are
40:03 having fun now you know what hold on uh
40:07 I can do too much fun uh how do you
40:09 slash on a keyboard English keyboard
40:11 what's English keyboard uh it should be
40:13 done D you know what can you make one of
40:16 us a off shut down I can which one just
40:19 give me your
40:21 name SP for there it is now people have
40:24 lost their voices because of why there
40:26 you go why exactly one had this is why
40:29 we can't have nice can you typ it
40:32 it's oh swi I guess I'll keep talking um
40:35 what's interesting about Sim is that you
40:37 know
40:41 a is it spelling right I don't know how
40:43 many how many ends are in banana I don't
40:45 know I'm European come on that looks
40:47 right um let's see what
40:50 happens are you modded now yeah there
40:53 you go you know what people you're
40:54 getting you're getting Unleashed
40:57 uh really I don't know no because
40:59 they're going to immediately get banned
41:00 so I see it's on you ah okay okay the
41:03 hammer is that see see what what they
41:05 were posting is probably they were
41:06 asking about uh you know what they were
41:08 asking about with that uh about uh
41:10 Victor and Jays yeah was there ever a
41:13 ship it's it's it's it's funny that that
41:17 is the conversation because we actually
41:19 started Arcane with them saying you know
41:23 it's for us it was like it's strange
41:28 that people say that the only close
41:30 relationship that two men could have is
41:32 to be a couple you know and like there
41:34 really close like friendships and like
41:35 like brotherhoods if you will like
41:37 really being there for each other um is
41:40 something that uh was just something
41:42 where like that was actually really
41:44 important for us to explore you know
41:46 it's like you so so um it's like it
41:50 seems like there's like no other version
41:52 you know for for some fans to say like
41:54 hey like there must be romance you we're
41:55 like hey like this these relationships
41:57 can be really layered and really complex
41:59 you know I think there
42:00 is there is some kind of there is a love
42:05 between them you know okay um I just
42:07 don't think it's romantic you know okay
42:09 okay sure there's going to be a lot of
42:10 people who are going to be very like
42:12 either disappointed or very excited I
42:15 understand that but like look like like
42:16 like they're human and humans are really
42:18 complex right like these things are
42:20 really really what about what about Milo
42:22 and clager there was one scene where I
42:24 was like I don't know where that came
42:26 from there are implications that can be
42:27 made in the alternative Universe I mean
42:31 I guess in that sense anything possible
42:33 okay
42:35 sure uh is there I have a fun thing that
42:38 I want to do so you know what we're
42:41 going to do it for now uh so as people
42:44 may know I am now a proud owner of the
42:46 pentacle guitar okay I am now a proud
42:49 owner of the pentacle guitar which was
42:51 sent to me by you the story behind it is
42:52 funny I was at the studio you are like
42:55 here we have a guitar that we used for
42:57 pentac kill we're not really using it to
42:59 which I asked can I have that and they
43:01 were like yep and that's literally it
43:04 right so um as a gift bag just so people
43:08 just people like don't think that I'm
43:09 just like getting stuff from Riot just
43:11 because right um to be fair that was
43:13 selfish of us because we wanted to get
43:15 rid of
43:16 that okay okay you would yeah you would
43:18 have thrown it thrown it away yes so I
43:21 want to present
43:23 you I want to present you what might be
43:25 legitimately the rarest instrument you
43:28 own what this this is from a region in
43:31 the Czech Republic called
43:33 hot this is called
43:36 fer it is a it is a very special drum it
43:40 is supposed to be horse taale normally
43:42 the thing is you can't really export
43:44 like animal PS across the border so like
43:46 you know it's nylon I think it might be
43:48 a horse tail to be fair no one checked
43:50 it so if it is true so what's what's so
43:54 special about this instrument is that
43:56 there is literally
43:57 a single living human being that's
43:59 making making these wow it is an 85y old
44:02 man in the Czech Republic the last
44:05 living human being making these because
44:06 if someone wants to make this they have
44:07 to do it themselves there is no one like
44:09 professionally doing this the
44:10 traditional way there is a single man on
44:13 the entire planet making these wow now
44:16 this is a special instrument that you're
44:18 going to be extremely
44:20 underwhelmed its purpose is one thing
44:23 and that is to fart in a very specific
44:26 way so what you do is wet your
44:27 fingers right you wet your fingers and
44:30 you pull on it and all it does is this
44:33 hold on hold on let me do come
44:38 on a little bit too wet hold on it's too
44:41 wet now dang it I ruined it I could play
44:42 the entire time hold on give me a second
44:44 we're going to do it eventually so there
44:46 we
44:47 go I I did it once come on it's to wet
44:51 hold on I got a little bit too much
44:52 water so it's really it's its only
44:54 purpose is you fart and you're using it
44:55 as a beat you're using it like a drum
44:57 right so come
45:00 on I swear it never happen to me that's
45:03 what it does this is legitimately the
45:04 sound it's it only
45:07 F you have to do it at very specific
45:09 speed is hard okay you can try if you
45:11 want this man this man clearly uh has
45:15 spent his time dedicated to an very
45:18 important yes effort that that's what it
45:21 us it is a very very specific uh so he
45:24 actually made something he wanted this
45:26 to sound like a fart
45:27 yes I want to meet I want to meet that
45:29 have you met that person I have not
45:31 personally no but like no like this is
45:33 extremely traditional like you have no
45:35 idea like this is actually in our
45:36 country for like many many years so
45:39 basically it's like hobos who like
45:40 travel around and they like get anything
45:43 that looks like a drum they stick a
45:44 horse tail in it and they farm with it
45:46 oh and they have like entire songs
45:48 dedicated to just using this as a
45:50 beat well the challenge is can you can
45:53 you use this in a Champion theme I was
45:54 going to say I feel like I should talk
45:56 to the music team to
45:58 or the sound design team how they could
45:59 sample this and I was really good at
46:01 this I can't believe I I'm not doing
46:03 this now oh well anyway it does it does
46:06 look cool you can probably use it as a
46:07 drum is that Lea that's real
46:09 leather you can probably use it as a
46:11 really really bad drum too it is
46:13 handmade it has like authenticity at at
46:15 the bottom it was hand painted just for
46:16 stream to actually see legitimately
46:19 handmade from the very very bottom by a
46:22 single human the last living being that
46:25 knows how to make these wow
46:27 yeah is is now in your position thank
46:29 you very much insanely difficult to get
46:32 wow I had to jump through many many
46:34 Hoops to find a human being that can
46:35 make these it turns out there's one and
46:38 that's it well I think we have something
46:41 for you too I don't know where that went
46:42 oh there is there's one there's one of
46:44 these well and there's also one of these
46:48 oh yes you know what I will I will first
46:50 have a look at this so This is actually
46:51 I you said this comes from China right
46:53 well I yeah I I recently went to China
46:54 and like they have really like so this
46:56 is awesome from China which is like a
46:59 Yasuo hat and what I find what I find
47:01 really interesting is that most of the
47:03 time I can't really communicate with
47:04 with players in China but we are united
47:07 in our belief that Yasuo players are
47:10 mouth breathing
47:11 drooling you know specimen um and I
47:16 think that that is a universal
47:18 understanding um yep and uh so hold on
47:21 what are these so so this is this is
47:24 like something that also I thought it's
47:27 really cool there yeah there's some
47:28 stuff available there that for like
47:30 beach be merch is just super Co the
47:31 merch is nuts because every time every
47:33 time I blinked there's a new Arcane
47:35 thing it started as like hey there is a
47:36 shirt yeah they definitely nowen now
47:39 there's a ring now there's makeup yeah
47:41 now there's boxing gloves and I'm like
47:43 the jacket is cool the V jacket is
47:45 insane okay so this is do you shove that
47:49 somewhere inside Cory so that is
47:51 actually that that is is it a USB holder
47:55 yeah it has to that's awesome that is so
47:58 does it go in the butt come on it's gorp
48:01 and it's China like come on it has open
48:04 somewhere I think the MTH I think the
48:06 mouth oh that's what it is okay that's
48:08 really
48:09 cool okay that is pretty
48:12 cool so there is a this is a really cool
48:15 corki version Cory corki but also there
48:17 is a Teo
48:20 version that we have here okay this is
48:23 really awesome yeah they're so cool ah
48:26 the merch like I don't know people
48:28 people working on merch with these are
48:29 nuts and yeah with ar oh it goes into
48:32 the log so there you got a emo the
48:34 holder is right there so since I mean we
48:37 can do a shout out to the merch store
48:39 now because since uh since act 3 is out
48:42 there's a lot of cool merch you can get
48:43 right now there's some cool stuff oh
48:47 such as this
48:49 um you can okay you know what we're
48:51 diving right into that H huh's this one
48:54 yeah we're probably diving into that no
48:56 I I'll
48:57 this all right I
49:00 okay so uh this is something that I'm
49:02 getting the thing is I'm I need to Shi
49:04 that home somehow yeah that'll be a bit
49:08 difficult to take on the
49:11 plane that's that is way too big oh okay
49:15 you can see the face see people asking
49:17 about waring's design
49:20 um H do you think there's a chance he's
49:23 going to become a wolf eventually well I
49:25 mean it the wolf is is is in there right
49:28 it's part of him it's just that he's you
49:29 know right now he is more like spliced
49:32 between human and wolf
49:34 okay what do you mean right
49:37 now you mean like in the future it's
49:40 going to be a case who knows okay hold
49:42 on I think I'm I'm ripping this I'm
49:44 ripping this off right I don't even know
49:47 how you I think you are supposed to just
49:48 like oh well that's really cool
49:50 packaging but no
49:52 more doesn't matter come on it's just it
49:55 it wouldn't make through the for anyway
49:57 okay this unfortunately goes off and I
50:01 do this is available on the merch store
50:03 I'm pretty sure this is now right now
50:07 yeah right now guys guys right now go
50:10 buy sell something this is not supposed
50:13 to be some kind of uh but I think I
50:15 think it's just actually really really
50:16 cool um okay I did want you to have this
50:20 that I I am afraid of the
50:23 size yeah I I own a lot of cool things
50:26 this is going to be another cool thing
50:29 hopefully is it like fully intact
50:31 already holy [ __ ] okay hold on hold on
50:33 hold
50:34 on so we have oh this is am I crazy oh
50:40 that's why so this is obviously episode
50:43 I can probably tell you the exact frame
50:46 uh this is the frame
50:48 of right before the first wave of the of
50:52 the jinkers comes in using the cable car
50:56 yep
50:57 because it's not even it's not even the
50:58 one where warry comes in because when
51:00 warry comes in if us the cable card the
51:03 shot is from the other side okay I know
51:05 my I know my
51:09 screenshots yep there's okay there's
51:13 someone already calling it out yeah the
51:14 right moment that that yeah so what was
51:18 inside is
51:19 this this the I'm I'm I'm going to put
51:22 it on my table there you go
51:28 a all right
51:31 right that is not
51:36 though it is
51:39 indeed the one and true
51:42 twitch as people as people correctly
51:44 guessed or it's or or it's also possibly
51:46 oh it's magnetic okay hold on the
51:47 quality is nuts twitch on steroids yeah
51:51 you know it's magnetic which means it is
51:53 a
51:55 real so freaky Warwick that is a good
51:58 way to put it that's a freak freaky
51:59 Warwick he is freaking out got a little
52:01 Spike on the
52:02 back ah oh that's actually a good
52:05 question since like in the original lore
52:07 singed is unhinged like completely like
52:11 one one of my favorite horror characters
52:13 yeah was there maybe a pitch where he
52:18 was supposed to be like a lot more
52:20 horrifying yeah I mean so so I I talked
52:22 to him a little bit and I started to
52:23 talk about him um he really you know
52:26 he's a he's a p scientist and he when he
52:29 starts to lose you know his his daughter
52:34 he starts to dabble in science where
52:35 it's all about like how can I save her
52:37 you know how can I bring her back and
52:40 that's when eventually he gets you know
52:42 um kicked out of the academy and Bann
52:45 and he he goes down I mean he goes down
52:48 a pretty dark path but I think there is
52:50 a really
52:51 interesting question um like what can
52:54 you justify right in your Pur of saving
52:57 lives and like this the things that he
52:58 has to kind of like like what I always
53:00 like is that there are people with these
53:02 political Ambitions you know like Soo
53:04 and all these folks and like what
53:05 Shimmer is supposed to do for them
53:06 Empower them but for cinch is always
53:08 like there's he's playing a long game
53:11 right it's about like how do you create
53:12 a body that how do you get how do you
53:15 use chemtech to enable a human being to
53:19 be strong enough resilient enough to to
53:22 to uh survive a transformation that is
53:25 as brutal as like you know getting your
53:28 body kind of spliced together with like
53:29 technology like this um and so it's all
53:33 part of it like Shimmer starts that
53:34 process of like the resilience um Vander
53:37 has like a like a you know really like
53:38 really powerful like just like very
53:40 resilient survivability that also like
53:43 is is uh relevant especially when he
53:45 helps Victor with the transformation
53:47 it's like can he even survive this this
53:49 is this is so brutal and of course it
53:50 helps him it all helps him in this
53:52 pursuit of like uh trying to um to save
53:57 his daughter know and so um I always
53:59 like that connection that for him it's
54:01 very personal and he's more than happy
54:03 to you know to work for other people who
54:05 enable him to pursue also what he's
54:07 trying to achieve you know in their more
54:09 political imaginations so with with s
54:12 storyline kind of like wrapping up in
54:14 that specific yeah story Art Is there
54:18 someone else who's making Shimmer now or
54:19 is he still is he still making it um it
54:24 depends where Shimmer is like so so
54:28 between season 1 and season 2 there are
54:32 other applications of Shimmer where you
54:35 see like it's kind of like you know it's
54:38 like the second Inon andon the thing is
54:40 like if you if you invent something and
54:42 like it others will be inspired by it
54:45 and will try to copy it right so I think
54:47 sing is really like the father of it um
54:50 but there are now also other
54:51 applications right I mean you've seen it
54:53 in some of the you know the noxian you
54:55 know soers and that kind of stuff
54:57 um so there there'll be like in my mind
54:59 there's many different different
55:01 applications of of uh of Shimmer in Z in
55:04 the future also because there's
55:05 different things you would want out of
55:07 it right like how you want to mutate the
55:08 body and what kind of different
55:10 advantages you want right being faster
55:11 being stronger like there's different
55:12 ways to do it Shimmer of course has a
55:14 really heavy cost like we've seen it
55:15 also with Decker and and and there's
55:18 like a a tax you pay you know it's like
55:20 it's oh can you confirm was there
55:23 deckard's head and See's left nice I
55:25 like that
55:27 yes poor guy that was very good okay I
55:31 met I met at the at this event of the
55:33 act three I met the voice actor that
55:34 played Decker and was like okay hey dude
55:38 uh sorry uh yeah yeah yeah yeah could
55:41 have been
55:42 awkward all right hold on we might do we
55:44 might do a gacha on stream now guys okay
55:47 oh boy RI Riot has a really good
55:50 uh they like gacha systems now which I
55:53 mean I mean you know something has to
55:55 pay for you know hold on really good
55:57 question something has to pay for Arcane
55:59 um there is like people are now talking
56:01 about like Arcane costing like uh$ 250
56:04 million or something like that that
56:06 number by the way is not accurate but um
56:08 like that that look that number in that
56:10 article is supposed to create headlines
56:12 yeah which did but like it included a
56:14 lot of like you know marketing costs and
56:15 whatnot which is nothing to do with you
56:17 know what you spend on the show um but
56:19 arcane's still really expensive right
56:21 but like the the on the internet like
56:22 people are split into like there is one
56:24 side that's saying like this is way too
56:27 much and on the other side it's like
56:28 yeah right it's not paying the animators
56:30 enough because like on one on one side
56:33 like like to people they sounds like a
56:34 lot of money which sure it is on on the
56:37 other side if you get something like
56:40 Pixar they have like four times the cost
56:42 but it also makes sense why it's because
56:43 like if you do a 3D animation for kids
56:45 everything is is 3D you literally have
56:47 to like model everything in theory there
56:49 are scenes where for D just like paints
56:52 a 2d picture and it's like a painting
56:55 and it works which means it's obviously
56:56 like 10 times cheaper yes so
57:00 realistically how's the cost on on on
57:03 Arcane well Arcane is it is really
57:05 expensive you compare it to you know the
57:07 typical animated series Arcane is really
57:09 really expensive but that wasn't the
57:10 goal like the goal we started Arcane
57:12 because we said we want to bring the
57:13 quality of animated movies to serialized
57:15 content but kind of find our balance
57:17 right like you said I mean um Arcane is
57:20 much much much much much cheaper than
57:21 any like feature movie because of these
57:24 efficiencies I me to give you an idea I
57:25 think typical in like the bigger
57:27 animation world you know the type of
57:30 Animation that you finish and throw away
57:32 in like the Hollywood world is really
57:34 high sometimes like 40 50% I think in
57:36 our version in our uh way of working is
57:39 like less than less than 5% I think you
57:42 know right we have to be very very
57:44 careful with what we do um need to be
57:46 really like know what we're doing um and
57:50 the the cost
57:53 look all the the budget goes to to the
57:56 talent you know like that the the budget
57:59 is just spent on animators on artists
58:01 and like you know Mark also wrote in one
58:03 of those uh I don't know readd it or
58:05 whatever but um this is I think this is
58:08 honestly just like good for everyone
58:09 that works in animation you know like
58:11 and again the the the money just goes
58:13 toward the people that work on the show
58:16 um uh so we just we tried to you know we
58:19 want to we want to see more highquality
58:21 animated series with more Fidelity with
58:23 higher animation budgets we dream of
58:25 that we as artists want that we as fans
58:27 want that um I mean like the fun thing
58:30 is like everyone is like you know
58:32 there's a new really expensive skin so
58:34 they are buying new yachts and new
58:36 mansions and like and I'm just sitting
58:38 here like nope I don't I don't think
58:39 this happening I think there's I think
58:41 the cost is going
58:42 somewhere it's I mean I I hope I think
58:45 we're still liveing this time with
58:46 animation where like it's you know the
58:48 the uh Rising tide lifts all boats like
58:51 it's it's I think I hope there's going
58:53 to be other video game studios or
58:54 there's going to be other um um uh you
58:57 know IPS that that look at Arcane and go
59:00 hey maybe we can do that too you know
59:02 there's great IPS out there there's
59:03 great characters out there um and I
59:06 don't know I think that's really a dream
59:07 you know I mean and and speaking of gcha
59:10 you know what we we got we get awesome
59:12 ponies that we can open uh sure we can
59:15 play a game we can play a game where you
59:17 pick one I pick one and we just open
59:19 them until we get what we
59:20 want sure um who do you want I mean well
59:26 I I actually I have got there is time
59:28 rning I was to say I kind of
59:30 want I don't know I best looks pretty
59:33 cool Chaser okay so there are rare ones
59:35 okay there's a you know for example this
59:37 I think I think this is rare every
59:39 everyone else has probably the same kind
59:40 of drop
59:42 chance okay okay well um I guess off we
59:46 go so okay name one because I'm going to
59:49 I'm going to say I want I want sure and
59:51 I
59:53 want I'm going for Jinx just so people
59:55 know you know this is this is what we're
59:57 looking at okay I'll go for the classic
60:00 Jinx because I'm going to represent all
60:02 the people who are absolutely obsessed
60:04 with Jinx to a Unreal degree okay so
60:07 pick one all right well guess we're
60:09 going to start all right off we
60:12 go and I believe these are also on the
60:13 mer store or they not okay they are
60:16 these are oh you can get these two okay
60:19 they might be sold out they might be
60:21 sold out apparently if not if if the the
60:25 eBay I guess
60:28 oh no no no eBay no e we are not
60:30 endorsing uh scoping
60:33 wait SC I cannot say that word either
60:35 Finly I don't
60:38 know let's see forget what I
60:41 said oh boy I got so oh that's a okay
60:45 the eye is really good though oh
60:48 yeah can see that this up
60:53 so I got Mel okay that's pre pre super
60:57 Mage uh era I think pretty sure yes yeah
61:02 civilian M yes civilian made male
61:07 yes all right round two
61:10 hor all right round two I'm going for
61:12 through the middle all right all right
61:15 all right taking more risks yeah people
61:18 can probably just ask questions in the
61:21 meantime uh will Mel Be A Champion I I
61:24 don't know it's probably not a question
61:26 for us I
61:27 guess um
61:29 that you know it's possible comes down
61:32 to what the game team
61:35 wants oh yeah what's with Sky that's a
61:37 good question this is again you know
61:39 what never mind I asked and you were
61:41 like I'm not sure oh my God you get mine
61:45 doesn't count though I didn't get
61:47 it right
61:49 unicorns a see is that who I think it is
61:54 I think that is yeah that is okay so we
61:55 literally just Drew each others
61:59 yeah that's a really good one that's a
62:01 really good one all right
62:04 fine well um okay still doesn't count no
62:07 one has a point okay open another one
62:09 and you can also talk about I don't know
62:11 do you want to talk about Sky because
62:12 that seems like something that you might
62:13 be interested in lot of these things are
62:15 so close to just like having just been
62:17 released I kind of I just kind of want
62:18 to wait until
62:21 people really look at everything
62:24 and like I think what's pretty unique to
62:27 Arcane honestly is
62:28 that the people go so deep and we we've
62:32 really taken that also into
62:33 consideration we made Arcane season 2
62:36 um
62:38 uh in that you know we we know that
62:43 people will will pay really close
62:44 attention and thus we can be really
62:45 detailed and and and and really have
62:48 very subtle hints but also be very like
62:52 aware you know of what we put and
62:53 everything so um that's why like things
62:56 just need a little time
62:57 okay you know what yeah sure that means
63:00 that Oriana is definitely coming back at
63:01 some
63:02 point I got
63:04 Eko oh yeah hold on so what's the deal
63:07 with ekko's hair did you ever consider
63:09 Ekko having like the hair that he has in
63:11 game uh because that was a that was kind
63:13 of a drastic change in his design the
63:15 Mohawk you mean yeah that was something
63:17 where honestly just our artist who
63:19 worked on Echo for was like black hair
63:22 doesn't work like that and so here's
63:24 what that would actually look like you
63:26 know you know yeah I never thought about
63:27 that it's just you know that's what it
63:29 was like that's a fair point and we
63:31 should probably consider that um and so
63:34 yeah also I just noticed he actually has
63:36 the hoverboard on the wing which is
63:38 pretty
63:39 cool also the hoverboard was that part
63:42 of him from the beginning because
63:43 originally I think it appeared in one of
63:45 the cinematics for Legends of Ona where
63:47 Jinx like where Eko and Jinx were kind
63:49 of like putting together yeah we had so
63:52 um there was is it the in the pilot
63:55 there have been so many words of the
63:56 pilot um ekko's monobike is not in the
64:00 pilot anymore right or like kind I think
64:02 no I think that was in the cin no hold
64:04 on
64:05 the it was in the music video for I
64:08 think it was in theic video but that
64:10 mono was actually in the pilot okay but
64:13 there was this there was a like you kind
64:14 of get a short scene when Ekko talks to
64:17 um clager about like the job they went
64:20 on to and he was kind of loading up his
64:21 motobike and and and so that was in the
64:24 pilot but that also ended up on the uh
64:28 uh editorial uh floor um so but but it
64:33 was a kind of just always that he's
64:35 always tiners he always kind of you know
64:36 builds these these different gadgets and
64:38 like kind of like the uh uh going from
64:41 like the the monobike was more simple to
64:42 then like him having a hoverboard is
64:44 like he's kind of like leveling up his
64:46 you know his uh Mobility also I also saw
64:50 someone asked about dhx which you know
64:52 what that is a sad redon okay I was kind
64:54 to expect I was that H runer would go on
64:56 his crazy Arc creating a massive
64:58 T-Rex and over the L yeah yeah yeah yeah
65:01 yeah yeah um you know not quite part of
65:07 our story yeah yeah is what it is can
65:09 you show me what you got um I got let me
65:12 check is this the enforcer no yeah I
65:15 have the enforcer oh you got the rare
65:16 one got it's a rare drop amazing it's
65:21 really cool okay last one good
65:23 pick uh
65:26 all righty where is himer that's a good
65:28 question we
65:31 hav also Mundo Mundo ever consider
65:34 because Mundo you can just like shove go
65:36 to backround and be like I know like the
65:39 thing about the thing about like
65:41 including League champions yeah is that
65:44 if we half as it people are will be more
65:46 pissed about that than like not
65:48 including them I think I see like himer
65:50 is my favorite character you know and I
65:52 saw the the himer Dinger main subate
65:54 where there's like
65:56 what the [ __ ] you know like where the
65:57 turrets and I'm like yeah there's a lot
66:01 of characters we have to service
66:04 um I have Caitlyn here and I have you
66:07 know what very thematic we can make them
66:09 kiss on
66:12 stream perfect ah well you can you can
66:16 take Mya then there you go thank
66:20 you ah really good Pon though um
66:25 come on guys we're having fun okay I'm
66:27 the texture of ekko's uh hair is
66:29 actually very detailed it is extremely
66:31 detailed it is actually properly curly
66:35 as it should
66:36 be ah very amazing
66:40 um yes arcan is true Cannon yeah also
66:44 has Legends of Runa ever affected yes
66:46 has it actually what's happening in the
66:48 story um yes I would say it it well
66:52 Legend OFA was pretty unique in that in
66:55 Le
66:56 there's not many opportunities to really
66:58 get into like the life of the different
67:01 regions right like kind of what you said
67:02 with you know the different things himer
67:05 like invent like I I Love the One cart
67:07 where you know the one where like himer
67:09 dunks uh Cog wheel into like a is it
67:13 milk or something like that or like yeah
67:14 yeah yeah it fell into his drink or yeah
67:17 yeah but it's supposed to be cookie but
67:18 he like yeah oh yeah I know it's it's so
67:20 lovely it's like these little moments
67:21 and so I think L is so amazing they
67:24 could just like explore these Moments
67:26 With Champions with characters with like
67:28 the street life like we rarely get into
67:30 like the street life of of any of the
67:33 different regions you know and and
67:35 League of Legends is like s like yeah
67:38 there's there's not really an
67:39 opportunity to really expl those things
67:41 lol was such a great inspiration for us
67:44 you know just like Let The Amazing
67:46 artists on L just explore these yeah
67:49 these moments and then we just go oh
67:50 here's something that we want to pick up
67:52 so so as an example did the legends of
67:54 Rono design of Caitlyn affect like how
67:57 she would look at the at the end because
67:59 at the end the design is pretty close
68:01 yeah I think it is the other way around
68:03 I think oh okay I the hours came first
68:05 because everything takes so long when
68:06 you do on you know like um like the the
68:09 vo that's currently part of Warwick's vo
68:12 uh was written because the rework was
68:15 written in response to Arcane yeah you
68:17 were there I remember so many years ago
68:20 people like oh wow they continued the
68:21 and I was like no we actually that was
68:23 someone that actually I think d when
68:26 phistic got the new the new voice he was
68:28 referencing just Jinx blowing everything
68:30 up already about yeah yeah so so so that
68:33 actually was like the the the Arcane uh
68:35 story building came first and then the
68:37 rework happened from but we were still
68:38 so far out you know for release but so
68:40 yeah it's you know yeah yeah someone
68:42 pointed out Swain too Swain was ages ago
68:44 too and he was already referencing
68:46 what's going to happen in the show yeah
68:47 also what was the thought behind the
68:48 gray and like how like sentient it looks
68:53 um what we so so in the when we designed
68:56 zon we really thought about zon as like
69:00 levels um the last drop in like the
69:02 lanes you know what's kind of what what
69:04 that kind of like level is called would
69:06 be like level I mean like two you know
69:09 like really not that far down right and
69:12 you a lot of people are there there's
69:14 several several several layers you know
69:16 beneath that um where there's like the
69:18 really spooky stuff the're really scary
69:20 stuff you know like you have like the I
69:23 don't know the monsters and the sewers
69:24 you know and so like also where the
69:26 where the gray would would exist um and
69:29 so the idea is that the deeper you get
69:31 in zone the more scary things become and
69:34 so that there are parts of the gray
69:36 where um like uh uh bulbu as a character
69:41 my favorite one people know that I love
69:43 he was really fun but he we actually
69:45 designed him to say that he would be
69:46 basically as he's like basically gas
69:49 form and like and he's and so the body
69:51 contains him and so the valves that
69:53 allow him to speak is actually like kind
69:56 of shaping words and everything out of
69:57 like you know gas yeah that that's
69:59 that's a really cool one because I
70:01 remember I remember when when bul died
70:03 like the hell fell off and I was like
70:04 there's no blood or anything like what
70:05 the heck is happening there okay so so
70:07 so there was an idea that you have like
70:09 some kind of you know uh connection
70:11 between that where there is some like um
70:13 some creatures that basically like you
70:15 know gas so um there you know that was
70:19 really an idea is that the sound design
70:21 is really focused on that is like that
70:22 whenever he talks that it takes a little
70:25 bit his voice is a little bit delayed
70:27 from his emotions because it needs to
70:29 kind of get shaped into words you know
70:32 and and also like kind of the sounds
70:33 around as if it sounds like there's
70:34 something kind of like being pumped you
70:36 know I mean the show the show even
70:37 mentioned that like his entire race was
70:38 almost destroyed by the Arcane which is
70:40 probably why he's a guess now I guess I
70:42 assume yes yeah probably makes sense
70:44 yeah also you mentioned cogs before yeah
70:47 what about the Cog that Victor had yeah
70:49 was there like more is there like more
70:51 meaning behind
70:52 it well because because like there was
70:54 like specifically like came back three
70:56 times at the beginning then like when he
70:57 died and at the end for like to W it up
71:00 yes and and
71:02 also yes okay okay so there was like an
71:05 artistic meaning behind that okay okay
71:07 sure uh I'm trying to think if there is
71:10 anything anything other big that I
71:13 really want to ask about besides just
71:16 vgs and stuff on the gameplay side which
71:18 we probably can't do anything
71:20 about uh what happens with ambassad
71:23 though uh she uhm
71:27 I think the much more interesting I
71:28 think the much more interesting question
71:29 is well I mean this question I is really
71:31 cool much more interesting question is
71:33 what's going to happen to the house of
71:34 Marda
71:36 yeah that's an interesting question I
71:38 will not give you an answer but that is
71:40 an interesting question that's something
71:42 that we should theorize about probably
71:44 now uh oh my God there's also ah dang it
71:47 there's like when when the episode
71:49 dropped there's like so many cool
71:50 details that I noticed from the World
71:52 building there's like one where like sea
71:54 is falling
71:56 there's like everything falling from the
71:57 ground and then I look at the like built
71:59 over customs and I was like oh my God
72:01 you can see like all the regions on on
72:03 the building and stuff like that like
72:06 was was that all for Te or was it you
72:08 being like you know let's like let's put
72:11 uh details there I'll try to find a
72:14 specific building where I noticed that
72:16 oh you mean there's a okay so there is a
72:19 screenshot there I'm going to try and
72:20 find if people people are going to love
72:23 this no actually it's right right right
72:25 about this I'll try and find this so
72:27 like when it comes to like this kind of
72:29 World building did they basically get
72:31 like our Direction and they were like
72:34 depends on
72:35 what uh I'll try maybe that was previous
72:41 episode uh because so so what's the
72:44 process behind it does like forti make
72:46 assets for the show or like paint paint
72:48 it yeah and then you watch it and they
72:50 then you're like you know what it would
72:51 make sense for like this to look like
72:53 that it really depend or is the other
72:54 way around it really depends if it's
72:55 part of the there's always something to
72:57 design and sometimes we see like an
73:01 extra opportunity to like you know have
73:03 little Easter eggs also like by the way
73:05 you know we have artists on our team in
73:07 Los Angeles that work really closely
73:08 with ferti really always talked about
73:10 every piece of every asset that gets
73:12 created and they also know our game
73:15 really well there's an artist on our in
73:16 our La team called Arno bodri who used
73:19 to work at forti for uh for many many
73:20 years and then move here and now as us
73:22 knows the game really really well so
73:24 there's always like this this exchange
73:26 you know of like oh you could do
73:27 something really cool here or like you
73:28 know like like the tell Tales like the
73:29 little right inclusions of like games or
73:31 Easter eggs like this always kind of an
73:34 exchange but fora is always many many
73:35 great ideas but I'm trying to remember
73:37 which one you mean uh so and a cool
73:40 question could like to do that uh has
73:43 there ever been any like detail or
73:45 anything like that that the community
73:46 picked up on and you were like well that
73:47 wasn't
73:49 intentional
73:51 um I mean it definitely happens that
73:53 there's sometimes like
73:56 uh made links uh where you were like
74:00 yeah sure that sounds convenient um but
74:03 uh yeah it does happen every once in a
74:04 while I'm trying to find something like
74:07 I'm not I'm just like going through a
74:08 screenshots I can
74:11 probably for example these guys I'm
74:13 going to I'm going to CH the scene for
74:14 example these guys uh yeah any chance
74:17 they were inspired by something like the
74:19 gray Legion from Runa from Legend of
74:21 Runa no this one this one um is kind of
74:25 I mean it's really like the influence of
74:26 s okay you know
74:29 um uh yeah also what's the thought
74:33 behind
74:35 these well I mean it's really like the
74:38 the Victor's work right I mean it's just
74:40 like the
74:42 um what the Glorious Evolution okay so
74:45 so this is like because because in in
74:47 theory again like this is me connecting
74:49 things from real life that are probably
74:50 have nothing to do with this in real
74:52 life I don't know if you know about this
74:53 but scientifically everything is
74:55 evolving into being a crab do you know
74:57 about that it's it rings a bell rings a
75:00 bell so lit literally every animal in
75:02 the world fny given enough time will
75:05 evolve into a crab that's like where
75:07 everything gets so is this like the
75:08 Glorious final evolution of like human
75:10 beings actually talked about so when we
75:11 talked about this we we we we talked
75:14 about like we want to have something
75:16 that kind of has a bit of it this
75:18 depiction of like like in quotation
75:21 marks Angels like something kind of
75:24 angelic and pure but then also has just
75:26 something about it that where you go
75:28 slightly it lost some of the expression
75:31 and the into the humanity in a way
75:32 that's a bit Eerie you know um and uh
75:37 and yeah I mean that's really what it is
75:39 you know it's like Victor's kind of
75:40 vision but also it will deteriorate you
75:42 know also I'm trying to think I mean
75:45 like we oh my God I'm going to have such
75:47 a blast just talking about like you
75:48 know whatever's happening there in space
75:52 uh especially since then they then
75:54 vanish yeah I think I found a scene ah
75:56 there it is hold on I'm going to try and
75:58 get it I found a scene where where I was
76:00 like all right let really hold on people
76:04 don't see that yet hold on give me a
76:05 second where like there are like these
76:08 insane story details I think I for this
76:11 let me go to
76:15 speed there is this hold on I'm going to
76:17 show I'm going to bring it up oh I see I
76:19 see yeah yeah this like when you have a
76:21 look at the customs and I'm like yeah
76:24 yeah and then then you like see yeah all
76:27 the regions yeah is this something that
76:29 came from forti or where we like you
76:30 know what it would be really cool to
76:32 just this specific detail just add it in
76:34 there this I'm trying to remember I
76:36 honestly so the the design you know a
76:40 lot of the world in piltover you I'm
76:42 sure you'll have noticed that the
76:44 animation studio is in Paris and the
76:45 animators live in Paris and there's a
76:47 certain inspiration yeah yeah yeah um
76:50 this one so when we talked about the you
76:52 know the hex Gates there's something
76:53 about uh
76:55 where you know it kind of it's really
76:57 like a a boost right like like kind of
76:59 like the the bigger version of Jay's
77:01 acceleration game you know so it gets
77:02 you it gets you kind of going really
77:04 fast and further but it also will Peter
77:06 out at some point um so we did kind of
77:08 talk about how like you can get blasted
77:09 out in the different the different
77:11 regions and so this was just you know
77:12 this was actually an idea from FTI um
77:15 about like kind of showing okay you know
77:16 where what kind of direction would you
77:18 get you know uh shot to work right yeah
77:21 so is the is the hex claw actually the
77:24 hex claw is that like where did they
77:27 come from because originally if you
77:29 remember in season one they are
77:30 presenting their inventions to hammerer
77:32 one of them is the hex claw the other
77:34 one is the the atlas gauntlets it came
77:36 from that more like the the the
77:38 inspiration um of like the application
77:40 like that was kind of like our like oh
77:42 yeah it can be really useful but also it
77:43 can be really dangerous um so that was
77:45 the inspiration and then you know like
77:48 the more organic version and the utility
77:50 of it that you know Victor sees and what
77:52 are we afraid of just turning Victor
77:53 into like an more of like an alien Jesus
77:56 rather than a mechanical alien Jesus I
77:59 think it's fair I always like it is fair
78:01 I mean it's like I mean just like go on
78:04 go on yeah to be honest we we just
78:08 wanted Victor to be more you know um and
78:11 do you have there like a specific like
78:13 really uh the
78:16 symbiosis of Technology but also
78:19 something that is intrinsically organic
78:22 which is you know the Arcane which is
78:25 um magic and so like that you know I I
78:27 mean I really love like the textures
78:28 also that um that we develop where like
78:31 it does feel like it grows organically
78:33 even though it's metal you know it's not
78:35 just like it's not just it's different
78:36 from like the things that are being
78:37 invented by you know artificers in pil
78:40 over like in factories whatever it is
78:41 like no this is like this grows
78:42 organically um and so uh that was
78:46 important to us and and that just means
78:47 that things feel feel more organic
78:50 there's like texture to it you know it's
78:51 like um and so uh yeah I think also
78:56 imagining Victor with you know a a more
79:00 personing more unique you know design I
79:03 mean and also uh looking at this
79:04 screenshot specifically um beautiful
79:07 wallpaper that a lot of people are going
79:09 to use now yeah um was the Bible ever
79:11 involved in in writing no I
79:14 meanor no I mean we never wanted to like
79:17 have this like you know like this direct
79:20 link to any speciic religion it's just
79:21 like the this idea of like um some kind
79:26 of you know Messiah or like someone that
79:28 like uh that people want to follow you
79:31 know and I think that that doesn't have
79:32 to be religious but of course there is a
79:34 certain connotation right um the beauty
79:36 of the art of you know religious art I
79:39 mean yes I mean there's like there's
79:42 just absolutely beautiful stuff right
79:43 and the the supernatural depictions of
79:46 it I mean that's it's very very
79:47 inspiring and also this a few few few
79:50 scenes forward um was this the idea for
79:55 the conclusion for the series from the
79:57 beginning like did did you know like
79:59 from the beginning like you know we're
80:00 going to write a story about Jinx and V
80:02 and there is going to be a time loop
80:03 with Jason Victor so we're getting into
80:06 the territory where again it's so close
80:08 after release it I don't know I will say
80:10 this what we said from the beginning is
80:13 that when Victor gets to the height of
80:15 his powers he's so powerful that uh we
80:19 always said to ourselves that the only
80:20 person who can defeat Victor is Victor
80:23 okay um
80:25 and that it's
80:27 about it's really about the Glorious
80:31 Evolution and the pursuit of that and
80:34 like what what it actually means
80:37 to you know remove these human elements
80:39 and and get to a point where
80:43 um there's nothing left you know I mean
80:46 again again I don't want to go too deep
80:49 um yeah we might get into that at some
80:51 point
80:52 probably uh I'm trying to fine there's
80:55 anything else if people have any
80:57 specific scenes they want to focus on
80:59 sure we can pitch ideas again you know
81:02 no I'm going to bring up another
81:05 excellent this when this dropped it was
81:09 such a good reveal I love how the mask
81:11 is essentially splitting the face D yeah
81:13 that was a so fun fact yeah where there
81:15 multiple versions of this so yeah I mean
81:17 the the artist that actually designed
81:19 Victor his name his first name is Victor
81:22 um so yes
81:25 victori uh amazing artist um he I think
81:29 it was him that had the idea that was
81:31 like oh like what if like this new face
81:32 kind of gets you know his his real face
81:35 gets split in half and this new face
81:36 comes through I was like holy cow you
81:39 know I mean um what a visual um and so
81:43 you can always kind of like still look
81:45 at you know human Victory and so it was
81:48 really haunting and and yeah I just I
81:51 thought it was so beautiful um I mean
81:53 connected to this there is a question
81:54 that I have I I'm pretty sure you can't
81:56 even like touch on where are like future
82:00 projects somewhat like the MMO possibly
82:04 are those projects also included in the
82:06 like thought process of like you know
82:07 let's make a story and like like you
82:09 know in the future game maybe this could
82:11 be a boss or like is is it also like
82:12 included in this we're talking all the
82:14 time you know I mean uh the people that
82:16 work on the creative for Theo I mean
82:18 they've been RI forever I know them
82:20 really well we show each other stuff all
82:23 the time we Inspire each other all the
82:24 time
82:25 um we're also just trying to get better
82:27 with everything that we do it right you
82:28 know like there's it's not easy because
82:31 like every different at a big company
82:34 every different product they have their
82:35 own budgets their own timelines their
82:37 own like needs what they what they need
82:39 for something to read you know like in a
82:42 when you write vo for a game like League
82:44 of Legends you need to be really clear
82:46 about who someone is as a champion you
82:49 can't really be so nuanced like compared
82:53 you know like relatively speaking
82:55 um Arcane it's all about the many layers
82:57 of of a champion right so like you need
83:00 to kind of dance a certain dance there
83:02 um and and and you can't always do the
83:04 same thing you know in both parts but
83:05 we're trying to just get better and
83:06 better and better and making sure we
83:07 talk to each other and Inspire each
83:09 other and make sure that there is you
83:10 know cohesion which look but very few
83:12 games have faced the creative challenge
83:15 that that League does because very few
83:18 games even are serviced that long and
83:20 still change over that I mean there's
83:22 there's League there's there's wow
83:24 there's I mean how many games with like
83:26 P are there like that I know wow very
83:28 well and like their story is going for a
83:30 little bit too long and they're like
83:31 well we have to Red g a lot now it's
83:34 it's it's hard you know it's really hard
83:36 to to bring all these things together
83:37 because they're made in different times
83:40 in different like you know eras and and
83:42 with different kind of considerations by
83:44 different people you know there's
83:45 there's a lot of things that are really
83:46 cool creatively but if
83:49 you if you're tasked with like
83:51 overseeing a project or a story and you
83:55 simply would not be able to like
83:56 successfully do it then it's you need
83:59 you need to find the version that where
84:00 you can succeed where the team that you
84:02 have can succeed so it's it's hard you
84:03 know it's it's hard we're trying you
84:05 know we're really trying like we want to
84:06 be better we don't want to have jarring
84:08 experiences but also like league is a
84:10 game that evolves and that becomes
84:12 better over time and I mean we all and
84:15 look look up screenshots of what league
84:17 looked like in 2011 or 2010 and like
84:19 different times you know it it was uh so
84:23 is there is there actually someone who
84:25 like sits through like these scenes and
84:27 they're like sitting there and they're
84:28 like making sure like you know what you
84:30 see there even though it's like
84:31 gibberish to well technically we got to
84:33 read that like it makes sense is there
84:35 someone who like like makes sure that
84:37 that this actually makes sense um yes it
84:40 as much like I mean yeah there are
84:44 certain symbolism you know is there's a
84:47 cohesion you know and and what certain
84:49 runes mean and what certain how certain
84:50 runes are used throughout the season
84:52 throughout both seasons um through the
84:56 uh you know mention of hexek what they
84:58 do um so yes you know um also who was
85:03 the one person who uh pitched singing H
85:06 [ __ ] uh that was me oh was it um yeah
85:10 I remember that when I pitched that and
85:11 people were like what um you know
85:17 um I was and this morphed into a
85:20 different scene um I was really inspired
85:24 by
85:25 The Great Dictator speech from um
85:29 Chaplin uh because it was like this
85:32 character that a lot of is always so you
85:35 know funny and people think he's kind of
85:37 just a joke but when he says something
85:39 really serious it really has this extra
85:42 weight and with him with himer thought
85:45 this in the lyrics and the ju position
85:48 yeah of what Jace is going through to me
85:52 that hits really hard you know because
85:54 like when you when you just
85:56 like and and Heimerdinger is really
85:58 learning something right like his Arc I
86:00 think is really fascinating is that in
86:01 the beginning of of his life in Arcane
86:03 he really just thinks about like well it
86:05 needs to be it needs you know the red
86:06 tape needs to kind of still exist and
86:08 like we need to be careful and things
86:09 and things should always have some kind
86:10 of utility but he never thinks about
86:12 like what it's like to just live and to
86:14 do things for fun and to just like and
86:16 he's a bit blind to that and I think
86:18 what he discovers you know when he gets
86:22 you know going with Echo and and gets to
86:24 know him better and and sees more of zon
86:26 is that he really discovers that side of
86:27 things and what science can do what
86:28 invention can do and you know the lyrics
86:30 are all about his growth you know as a
86:32 character um such a different
86:34 perspective and and you know even though
86:36 like the the what he says to eeko um uh
86:39 in in 207 so it's it's I really like
86:43 that Arc for hinger and of course you
86:45 know um um that's what you also find in
86:47 the lyrics oh yeah where is H ringer
86:49 borrow that's a good I did not actually
86:52 think about that one um
86:54 I'm not sure yeah probably taking care
86:58 of some assistant in his lab okay
87:01 sure so have you ever been affected by
87:06 fandom as in like what we do like like
87:09 originally you were like uh we have some
87:12 scenes planned for Eko and J Jinx and
87:15 then then you saw the phandom going
87:17 crazy and you were like maybe you should
87:18 dial things up a little bit to like you
87:20 know meet to like meet the expectations
87:24 sure whatever specifically yeah H that's
87:27 a good question like where you ever like
87:29 you had you had a pitch like you know
87:30 where the story was going and then you
87:31 saw the reaction and you were like maybe
87:34 there should be more intensity or
87:35 something like that I don't think so
87:36 because we had to lock in pretty much
87:39 all the scripts and everything season 2
87:40 even before season one was out mhm um
87:44 yeah I don't think so I mean maybe when
87:48 I think maybe when we were like in
87:49 animation mhm and you like kick off the
87:51 animators and like how the characters
87:53 behave maybe then but but I I'm trying
87:55 to think I need to think about that a
87:56 little B more I'm sure I'm look I'm sure
87:58 I'm sure there were some things um but
88:00 yeah most of the stuff in terms of story
88:02 and script was was done by the time
88:04 Arcane do you care to explain this SC
88:07 then as in as in so what happened from
88:10 my perspective yeah they uh activated
88:14 the Arcane uh they tapped back into the
88:17 like parallel Gateway let's call it
88:21 um the the Consciousness from Echo that
88:24 was like the present Echo left the like
88:27 alternative Echo went back to his
88:29 own
88:31 space and that led the old the other
88:35 Echo the alternative Echo to like occupy
88:37 that character again is is pretty much a
88:39 thought process yeah okay just want to
88:40 make sure I don't miss anything crucial
88:42 like ambessa being pregnant or you know
88:45 happens happens every now and then yeah
88:47 you missed that one yep so what happened
88:49 so so what happened in the in the
88:51 ambassa Cinematic yeah I spent a lot of
88:53 time going around the details and like
88:55 like you know like look at like how this
88:57 all set up and then there was the the
88:59 scene like she was kind of like lay at
89:00 the very beginning she was like laying
89:01 laying holding her belly because like
89:03 she had the arrow in and I was like yeah
89:04 sure the belly looks bigger but then
89:06 again like a lot of medieval armor has
89:08 like bigger belly like especially in
89:09 some like Dark Soul you have that and I
89:11 was like doesn't doesn't really have to
89:12 mean anything it can be just noxian
89:14 armor whatever so I just like went crazy
89:17 like like debating everything that
89:19 happens and people that's fair that's
89:20 fair and people were Amazed by the
89:22 analysis and then at the end she ends up
89:24 it's obvious she's pregnant I'm not
89:26 looking at her I'm like you know I
89:27 talked about her I'm looking at the
89:28 background that what's happening there
89:30 and like you know like the place where
89:31 it's set up uh yeah so I missed that
89:33 she's pregnant no when that was pitched
89:36 like that is a
89:39 good example of how sometimes pitches
89:41 can be really scary I remember when I
89:44 think it was AR no one of the forti
89:46 directors who was like oh like what if
89:47 we show her as a pregnant Warrior like
89:49 what a and I think the first time people
89:51 some people heard that they were a bit
89:52 scared like oh my God that like that
89:55 like you're it's it's like
89:59 so difficult to imagine that not be in
90:03 some way like oh my God like I don't
90:05 know uncomfortable to watch maybe even
90:07 or like oh how can we do this you know
90:09 and and that was something I think a lot
90:11 of people were scared in the beginning
90:13 to pull that off because you
90:16 know because it's just some of these
90:19 pictures like on on paper before they
90:21 exist they're hard to imagine you know
90:24 but in hindsight it's always like y I
90:25 mean there it is but but there's a lot
90:27 of that throughout Arcane where you have
90:30 before you have seen
90:32 it it takes it takes a lot of work and
90:35 time and belief and Trust to even be
90:37 like yeah this this could work and that
90:39 just be absolutely ridiculous so was the
90:41 there's a lot of like butterfly
90:43 iconography I'm trying to find a
90:44 screenshot of that where I think it was
90:47 right before this uh we're in La guys
90:50 don't worry we're
90:52 not uh so there a lot of like but there
90:54 was a scene where
90:56 like J smashed the core uh it like it it
91:00 went into like an explosion of a
91:02 butterfly I also grabbed another
91:03 screenshot obviously this kind of looks
91:05 like a cocoon yeah and when at the end
91:09 I'll try to find a specific screenshot
91:11 when they pop off they like go into like
91:14 butterfly wings again what's the
91:16 iconography there
91:20 about um the which scene do you mean
91:24 I'll try and find it right here they
91:28 like they hug hold on and they go into a
91:31 butterfly hold I'll show you it's going
91:33 to be right
91:35 here oh come on it's not there no am I
91:38 missing
91:39 it there is definitely a frame where
91:41 it's like this Frame and like they go
91:44 into like the like like butterfly wings
91:47 almost I can't find it now and there is
91:49 and this specific thing actually happens
91:51 I can I can find you the yeah I mean a
91:52 lot of the Cocoon above is the
91:54 transformation right yeah I mean that's
91:55 really the theme and like the the the
91:57 beauty that comes out of it um but
91:59 really transformation um uh it was I can
92:01 actually I can actually show you the
92:04 first time this happened
92:07 was in episode 3 when he smashes the
92:11 core I can show you the the the the
92:13 specific one because there's like a lot
92:15 of people have like specific theories
92:17 like you know other the butterflies it's
92:18 going to be like a butterfly effect or
92:19 it going to be like the evolution of the
92:20 characters we do have like the actually
92:22 don't know the English term like in
92:23 German it's Bella the the the like the
92:26 double winged okay um insects when when
92:30 Jace
92:31 arrives um at the top D gets in two
92:35 seven this little insects you remember
92:37 those oh yeah I know yeah which are
92:39 beautiful I love the sound they did
92:41 found it yes he smashed the core goes
92:43 into a butterfly and this comes back a
92:45 lot I mean in uh yeah at the beginning
92:48 in the flashbacks of Jace and Victor
92:51 there was the B little butterfly at the
92:52 beginning of like both of those scenes
92:54 and like like the butterfly comes back
92:55 and so like people are really like hyper
92:57 fixated on this and they're like there
92:59 has to be some deeper meaning behind it
93:00 yeah so yeah that's pretty that's pretty
93:03 much what it is
93:04 yeah uh try interesting is there
93:09 anything else that's
93:11 [Music]
93:13 big because we might be just
93:16 covered we might be just there oh did
93:18 you hold hold hold on people are going
93:20 to love talking about Maddie was Maddie
93:23 involved as a big bad guy from the
93:25 beginning or not big but you know bad
93:27 guy from the
93:27 beginning um she definitely was she
93:31 definitely was a you know Amanda really
93:33 thought deeply about her involvement and
93:35 I think
93:37 she really liked you know we all
93:39 honestly we all just like love the idea
93:41 that like ambessa is just so this her
93:45 strategies are
93:48 so like anything is fair in you know and
93:52 and and if it's if it's physical if it's
93:55 just planting the right people if it's
93:57 creating the right relationships um and
94:00 that was just yeah it was really fun to
94:03 um cook that up and yeah that that that
94:06 that was parted okay so because
94:09 like yeah Maddie when when she died in
94:12 the in the venue that was the when we
94:14 saw it live like people will not notice
94:17 when we saw it live when medie died the
94:20 entire theater like 4,000 people every
94:23 everyone cheered it was amazing and I
94:26 love when you have a satisfying death
94:28 because like in in our game there is a
94:30 lot of deaths where people are like how
94:32 can Jinx die I'm so mad now but then you
94:35 know but people don't realize that
94:38 Primal emotion is awesome to feel like
94:40 maybe I'm just morbid I like when I like
94:42 when good characters die well because
94:45 mortality is kind of like the driving
94:46 force that we all have if we if it would
94:48 be immortal no one would care about
94:49 anything so like when a good character
94:51 dies I'm like hell yeah
94:55 uh you know and madd's so the scene I
94:58 think is really fun you know I think I
94:59 don't know if I told you but someone
95:00 else like the scene used to be longer
95:02 but and you know like kind of like the
95:05 drawn out like MADD aiming everything
95:07 but yeah I remember asking for Te make
95:09 this really Snappy so it feels like this
95:11 this super quick decision you know for
95:13 M's like all right and and you
95:15 know done and it happens really for
95:18 context yep we got this which is right
95:19 after yeah you know and she just she
95:21 doesn't wait she just like pulls I
95:22 appreciated your warmth
95:24 goes immediate goes
95:27 immediate into a shot yeah immediately
95:31 followed by oh this is beautiful yeah
95:34 immediately followed by this and there
95:37 was like like I think it was like two
95:38 second window it was like no way to
95:40 breathe before after she said line yeah
95:44 oh my God everyone was excited that yeah
95:46 in the venue it was pretty crazy um that
95:49 was uh there was a strong reaction to
95:51 that um that was that was interesting uh
95:53 to experience that and yeah of course uh
95:56 the one that I'm going to be really
95:58 careful about uh the frames that I'm
96:00 going to pull from that the one the one
96:03 thing people went wild about
96:07 obviously um I'm going to be very very
96:09 very careful
96:11 so um how much I'm I'm really trying to
96:15 find a screenshot that I can use okay
96:17 you know what I think this is pretty
96:18 good I think you can use it yeah sure um
96:24 how much of this was forti how much of
96:25 this was Riot that was forti that was
96:29 French people being in French okay and I
96:34 like we said I don't think we said it
96:35 before this is the this is the shorter
96:38 version because we had we you know there
96:41 was serious considerations around uh
96:45 ratings potentially cutting off a
96:48 significant part of the Le Legends
96:50 audience um uh yes because I mean the
96:56 the again it's another interesting thing
96:57 about like ratings and like you know
96:59 like every country has a slightly
97:01 different you know like what's allowed
97:03 and what's not I mean like you walk
97:04 around in France and there's just like
97:06 naked people in ads and bus stops
97:09 everywhere there's no you know that that
97:10 doesn't fly the Olympics happened which
97:12 got a little bit of criticism because
97:14 French people are very uh free very fre
97:17 sure yeah sure that's fair you they they
97:20 live life
97:21 and appreciate all the beauty
97:24 in nature yes sure in all of us inside
97:28 all of us uh also I loved how people
97:30 freaked out about this it's such a small
97:33 thing yeah but when this popped up
97:36 people freaked out like hey here's
97:37 here's Jinx like we have never seen her
97:39 before like like see her crazy see her
97:42 mad sure see her Unbound like that in
97:45 like a literal sense yeah that reaction
97:49 was crazy was that again was it forti we
97:51 were like you know let's let's yeah yeah
97:54 let's portray her well I mean you know
97:56 the story We crafted you know in
97:58 La um I'm trying to think the hair down
98:02 if that was forti or in the LA I can't
98:04 remember I think it may have been an
98:06 idea of
98:08 fortish um I can't remember but you know
98:10 the story We craft there and look I mean
98:12 there's a really a big change happening
98:14 in Jinx throughout season 2 you know
98:16 where D again we're so fresh after the
98:19 release I don't want to go too deep but
98:20 like I mean isa's responsible for that
98:22 well I mean she for the first time Jinx
98:27 experiences what it's like to be the big
98:30 sister mhm you know which so much of
98:33 what we see in the beginning of arcain
98:35 that it's not the case yep um you can
98:38 argue in many ways also toward the very
98:42 very end you know there
98:44 is you know she does what the big sister
98:47 does yep um and and there the true
98:50 transformation I think that you see you
98:51 see part of that you know here
98:54 um and it's yeah I think it's I thought
98:56 it's just really beautiful yeah with
98:59 that I think we're going to be like
99:00 slowly wrapping up now would make sense
99:03 which means I'm going to find an awesome
99:05 sorry I think I think I hit the
99:06 microphone I apologize don't wor don't
99:07 worry hand they can handle it all right
99:10 I can handle it I can handle it uh one
99:12 final thing that we can probably talk
99:13 about yeah the transformation of Caitlyn
99:15 ah yes pirate Caitlyn pirate Catlin
99:18 amazing I genuinely love this is so good
99:21 like she's such a badass it she is and
99:24 you I don't even care that she doesn't
99:25 have a pirate skin in game okay I don't
99:27 even care look like maybe eventually
99:30 genuinely what I what I believe is going
99:32 to happen there's a lot of characters
99:33 who have like different visuals now even
99:35 Warwick now I would not be surprised if
99:39 all of these become skins now like you
99:41 have like because like this this is like
99:44 an an entirely different character from
99:46 what we have had before yeah as in like
99:49 well there's there's a just you change
99:50 throughout the story you know yeah
99:52 because like you literally you took
99:54 people are saying Samir people people
99:56 took because you took a character right
99:59 that like people know they love and you
100:02 literally transform them into an entire
100:04 new character but you're still trying to
100:06 serve the original audience yeah which I
100:08 assume that's something that was taken
100:10 into consideration like when you were
100:11 like sitting there and you're like you
100:13 know what by the end of the season she's
100:15 going to lose an eye and people are
100:16 going to like that I guess well it's we
100:19 don't necessarily think about do people
100:21 like it or not we think about is it the
100:23 right consequence for the story is it
100:26 like what happens when Caitlyn faces up
100:28 with someone like I'm Bessa me and and
100:31 like also the decisions it's you know
100:33 story is I think people sometimes they
100:36 think about like oh I love a certain
100:37 character from a movie or or a show
100:39 because of like their design like if you
100:40 want to tell me that you know Lou
100:42 Skywalker is an awesome character
100:43 because he wears a white robe I'm like
100:44 that's that's false it's because of his
100:46 decisions it's the choices that he makes
100:48 that makes you like love characters and
100:51 you know that's fun that's really
100:53 fundamental to story tell and so the the
100:56 choices that Caitlyn makes now are
100:59 are so different and and she is willing
101:03 to take risks and sacrifice parts of
101:07 herself you know now for other people or
101:10 for for pilt over or for just what's
101:13 right like yeah if I lose like okay I
101:15 have an opportunity in this moment to
101:18 weaken ambessa and I'm going to lose an
101:20 eye that's a calculation I'm making the
101:23 moment and that's it um and I I just
101:27 think that's cool about her you know and
101:28 and there's like actually connected to
101:30 that exactly people did actually point
101:33 out a really cool one what about a hat
101:35 yeah the K hat Y is that something that
101:37 like you know might happen later
101:40 on I mean we have she has a she has a
101:43 hat
101:44 yeah I mean I think we just always we're
101:48 like this doesn't really fit this
101:52 version she becomes
101:53 um I don't know but yeah I think we it
101:56 was it was not the version that that we
101:58 that we liked to be honest so you know
102:00 what sure later she's going to do
102:01 something yes okay there it is yeah yeah
102:03 there it is uh and I think that might be
102:07 it people are still asking if Jinx is
102:09 alive I love that which again you know
102:11 it's that's what the audience is uh but
102:15 yeah I think it might be I was wrapping
102:18 up do you have any final words that you
102:21 wanna say sure I mean well first of all
102:26 um it's I'm always uh well I'll be
102:29 really honest I guess I'm
102:31 I'm uh there always needs to be a bit of
102:36 uh a space you know between what you do
102:40 you know and what I do because like I
102:42 never want to get to a point where like
102:44 it's good that we that there's criticism
102:47 it's good that there's a there's a
102:48 critical view on the things that we do
102:50 um we really we really try to pay
102:52 attention like we you know we're we're
102:53 just we just like we just like League
102:56 you know we love League we love these
102:57 characters we want to tell the stories
102:59 that we want to see and um and so in
103:03 order to succeed we need to listen to
103:06 our audience you know but we also need
103:07 to have like a a point of view we need
103:09 to have a vision we need to take risks
103:11 we need to be bold and so it's like it's
103:14 a delicate balance you know we're like
103:17 uh I think these things tend to fail
103:19 when like there's people are like too
103:21 much in cahoots you know or too like
103:22 trying to help each other we should
103:24 never do that right um so I just want to
103:27 say like we really you know we're not
103:29 trying to like shove anything down
103:31 anyone's throat we we we want to just
103:34 like find what makes these Champions
103:35 cool and tell their stories and we want
103:36 to um be true to you know the regions
103:39 that people fell in love with but we
103:41 also like what I also think is really
103:42 important is that we translate our
103:45 stories and our characters in a way
103:46 where they can stand up to like the best
103:49 storytelling in the world and um and
103:53 sometimes that means like certain
103:54 updates you know because because of for
103:56 a certain story or for like because also
103:57 this like the game is evolved over Time
104:00 characters sometimes are simply outdated
104:03 or too you know archetypal or too you
104:05 know like there's but but there's an
104:06 Essence about a character that we all
104:08 love right people love and so um it's
104:11 not easy you know but we're not doing
104:13 this we're doing this because like we
104:16 want to watch these stories you know
104:17 like we I spent 9 years on this project
104:20 you know it's like it's a chunk of my
104:22 life I won't get back because like I do
104:25 this cuz I love this so um everyone that
104:28 works on this show so what are saying is
104:31 that you're going to lose a lot more
104:32 life because we you're not done yeah I
104:35 mean look we want we want to get this
104:37 right you know we want to get this right
104:38 uh we're very lucky that we get the
104:40 support from RI where they're just like
104:41 just make our players happy um and so
104:44 we'll keep doing that you know like we
104:45 listen
104:48 uh yeah and we're we're just starting
104:50 you know so so that's my job um to make
104:53 make sure we do a good job with with
104:54 this IP and the characters that everyone
104:57 year and I know you also really love you
104:58 know yes I know this I I love this
105:00 universe very much people know
105:02 that yeah and you know for someone who
105:04 says that I don't think players are
105:05 happy well um sorry I don't know I don't
105:09 know about that well but but look let
105:10 let me let me let me let me answer that
105:11 I mean to those who are not happy um
105:15 sorry that we didn't hit what you wanted
105:17 but uh there's simply no way where we
105:20 can please everybody um and we're trying
105:23 our best you know to to make as many
105:27 players as possible happy um but but
105:30 again we need to follow also our own
105:32 Compass you know like this at the end of
105:33 the day we need to be the Shepherds of
105:35 this IP and of this game and
105:38 uh this this stuff creative is hard you
105:41 know so um we'll keep doing that and uh
105:44 if that means that you know we'll uh
105:46 ruffle some feathers uh sometimes that's
105:48 simply part of it and that's okay
105:50 right as uh as Victor would say
105:56 um you know sometimes our our great
106:00 godam how was it greatest good comes
106:03 from greatest evil oh well yes it's true
106:07 it's true um to some degree or whatever
106:09 yeah it is the human element it is the
106:11 human element um yeah I mean um yeah
106:15 there there'll be more stuff are every
106:17 day is just developing the next stories
106:19 yeah yeah as someone said as Victor said
106:21 uh I'm dead
106:23 ah the famous line there it is yep so
106:27 everyone should be aware that yep I I
106:29 think we're done but you know nothing go
106:30 for nothing that I done yet I okay I'll
106:32 give you a little something because
106:33 someone says give us a hint on the next
106:35 show um just because I want to make sure
106:38 that um there are expectations so I'll
106:41 I'll tell you this okay okay I'll tell
106:43 you this when when we when I looked at
106:46 there was like there was like two or
106:47 three bigger threads on Reddit when
106:49 people were like oh like they're going
106:51 to do more shows more movies what the
106:53 focal points
106:54 right pretty much all the like top voted
106:58 directions are the ones we're exploring
107:01 okay so we are investing quite a bit in
107:06 noxus
107:07 Ionia um
107:10 Deasia um uh
107:13 there's we start really with character
107:17 stories okay um
107:21 but I'm very
107:23 confident that we're investing in the
107:26 right stories because simply those were
107:27 the answers that we have seen in these
107:30 threats um and also a we we have a lot
107:33 of data we know you know which which
107:35 characters our audience uh like and play
107:39 a lot not you know it takes quite some
107:41 effort to understand the difference
107:42 between people picking Champions because
107:44 they win versus people picking Champions
107:46 because they like them right right but
107:48 we we pay attention to that so we don't
107:50 just go with who's popular because they
107:51 win but like okay where's resonance and
107:53 how do you how do you Define resonance
107:55 um but I'm very confident that we're
107:57 looking at the right regions where
107:58 there's just a lot of fandom a lot of
108:00 interest um and I guess that's where
108:02 I'll leave it all right uh well with
108:05 that um any anything from you any any
108:07 other thing that I should keep in mind
108:09 or that that we you know I went into
108:12 this thinking like you know what so
108:14 Arcane one the season one was like
108:16 legitimately the best thing I've ever
108:17 seen as in like doesn't even matter if
108:19 it's a TV show doesn't even matter if
108:20 it's like a film movie doesn't matter
108:22 like like a thing that you put on a
108:24 screen that's the best thing I've ever
108:26 seen but I am slightly biased because I
108:27 know the the Universe I know the world I
108:29 know like as like these things are
108:30 happening there's something else
108:31 happening somewhere else and I kind of
108:32 like know the connections yeah season
108:35 two dropped I don't think that changed
108:37 now what's amazing is that what you did
108:39 because original Victor was my favorite
108:41 character as an example like in the
108:42 entirety of De you took original Victor
108:45 you took him away you replaced him with
108:48 something that's equally good and that
108:51 is the crazy thing that's why is so good
108:53 there were amazing Stories before there
108:56 are amazing stories now they are
108:57 different stories but they are on equal
108:59 level of just excellence and that I have
109:02 never seen anyone acheve
109:04 before I don't know what you take from
109:06 that no I mean I appreciate that look we
109:08 we always try you know I can definitely
109:10 sense there's some people who are like
109:11 where's my wolf Warwick um it it's
109:15 simply we needed to do what we needed to
109:17 do for the story um because it was
109:20 important that like you understand where
109:23 it's not a you know that there is a part
109:25 of VOR there is that Humanity left in
109:27 there um and for Victor again you know
109:32 we we spoke about like how we you know
109:35 the organic kind of shapes the organic
109:37 kind of um uh um how do you say that
109:41 like the the symbiosis between
109:43 technology but also this this organic
109:45 entity which is Magic thean right um uh
109:48 that simply call for like certain art
109:50 decisions um it's you know it's it's uh
109:53 I often think about you know how other
109:56 people have done it in the past when I
109:57 think about the many different
109:58 iterations of like Batman you know the
110:00 visuals and the character design and for
110:02 Spider-Man like what kind of Liberties
110:04 they take and what needs to be a truth
110:05 right um and it there's never really
110:08 like one clear answer about like what do
110:11 you what what can be what can change and
110:13 what cannot change right um like I'm
110:15 sure at some point someone said like you
110:17 could you can never change Wolverine's
110:20 yellow outfit right and right lo and
110:22 behold are there now but like for a long
110:24 time people were like that cannot be the
110:26 depiction that we will choose right and
110:27 so um it is subjective you know um again
110:30 we're really trying I'm happy that you
110:32 know on Victor that you feel like we
110:33 ended in a place where we respected kind
110:35 of like the core um we'll always try
110:38 we'll always try I just saw this August
110:40 in the chat asking uh why would you hurt
110:41 his girl uh we honestly just made Arcane
110:45 to break August's Spirit um oh is that
110:49 why in that one scene with the hair she
110:51 kind of looked like Brier
110:53 look with feet specifically see you know
110:57 uh I don't know a I don't know why but
111:00 um uh you know it is it is wild to to
111:03 think back to that um it's
111:06 crazy how long ago this was now you know
111:09 and we were I remember when uh we worked
111:13 on Jinx and and VI back then and I
111:15 always when we worked on arcan I always
111:17 went back to you know katusa who did
111:19 like the original design for for Jinx
111:21 and Paul Quan original design for Vi and
111:24 August and always asked like hey like
111:25 are we are we messing anything up here
111:26 you know um and it was always really
111:29 important what's interesting is like the
111:32 perspective of the original game
111:34 designers and artists and and people
111:36 that work on these these Champions and
111:37 then the the the audience kind of
111:39 interpretation are not always they
111:42 sometimes they go into widely different
111:43 directions right blitzcrank was never
111:46 supposed to be funny or cute or Derpy
111:48 you was supposed to be this murder
111:50 machine you know exterminate exterminate
111:52 and people just went like oh that's
111:53 right I forgot about I forgot about the
111:55 the fact that he has those quotes
111:57 murdering people it's like his waddle
111:58 it's a like he doesn't really know what
112:00 he's saying you know he doesn't mean he
112:02 kind of cute he thinks he can hurt
112:03 anyone and so like so you you know like
112:06 I remember when I talked to uh Jeff who
112:09 who was I think the the person that
112:10 really like invented yordles back then
112:12 and and Teemo you know and and he was
112:14 like yeah he was just supposed to be the
112:16 he never was supposed to really be like
112:17 this this pest this Satan you know like
112:20 Scout and so the question then is is
112:22 like what do you go with you know and
112:24 and uh uh and so but it's it's wild to
112:28 think back to these things you know um
112:31 fun fun fact I remember when Paul Quan
112:35 was was drawing the first like concepts
112:37 for
112:38 Vi and she did she she didn't have a
112:41 name at that point I remember looking
112:43 over her shoulder and I was I was
112:44 working on music at the time looked over
112:47 his shoulder and for some reason I said
112:49 to him she kind of looks like a violet
112:50 to me and and he went hm and then I but
112:54 we never didn't speak about this again
112:56 and then that kind of sounds like a
112:57 Vander quote from aara right well then
113:00 and then months months
113:02 later she started to kind of be more a
113:04 series uh thing as a champion and then
113:07 her name was why actually it's to this
113:08 day I don't know if my statement
113:10 influenced it at all or if that no I
113:12 think you were just vender now I think
113:14 you just like said her name and there it
113:16 is it it's actually possible that that
113:17 actually never influenced it I don't
113:19 actually know maybe August knows but I
113:21 said that to Paul who was you know who
113:22 who did the visuals but I just kind of
113:25 because then it was v i just stuck with
113:26 that in my head so I was like you know
113:28 what for me but I don't actually know I
113:30 don't actually I don't I don't actually
113:32 know I don't actually know if if there
113:34 is a direct connection and so it's I
113:36 kind of honestly I'm okay with not
113:37 knowing because in my head I'm like
113:38 totally um but
113:41 uh but that was a thing yeah you're off
113:45 so many years ago I like how there is
113:47 actually AUST right here uh from high
113:50 ranking oh okay okay I believe didn't VI
113:53 have the tattoo on her face because
113:55 because she was like the champion number
113:56 10 and something like H I can't even
113:59 remember
113:59 August but that's interesting so I guess
114:02 maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe someone or
114:04 maybe Paul whatever like forwarded or or
114:06 other someone else suggested Viet was
114:07 possible too no I think actually jaay
114:10 was 100 because jaay was like let's make
114:12 a champion that's everything because
114:13 he's number 100 making Champion names is
114:15 really hard they always have like a work
114:17 like a like a work in progress title
114:20 right and no matter the and no matter
114:22 what the team chooses everyone else is
114:24 going to go well that's not cool because
114:27 you know it's just like it's like the
114:28 the problem of like every new name you
114:30 know I I think like jce was called um
114:33 Apollo as a as a like a like a work in
114:36 progress name and then it was Jace and
114:39 everyone just went like what why is he
114:42 everyone complained but like you just
114:43 need to get used to it sometimes you
114:44 know oh there you go there's the so so
114:45 the original idea was that she she had a
114:47 tattoo of a number on her face and she
114:50 she got the nickname vi from the number
114:52 on her
114:53 face that's where it originally started
114:55 yeah which means maybe you're not vendor
114:57 I guess so we did for example small
114:58 thing that we did on by on the design is
115:01 that I it was something of me and maybe
115:04 I don't know people like this but I I I
115:06 did want to make the tattoo a little
115:07 smaller just so that when you basically
115:10 when you see her like on the screen a
115:12 lot in like close-ups and you always
115:14 have this massive I was like you know
115:16 what can we push it so like it's a
115:18 little bit smaller so like it's kind
115:20 like on like when it's kind of like a
115:22 like a wider shot or medium shot it's
115:23 kind of like a beauty mark you can kind
115:24 of like your eyes can kind of disregard
115:26 it so it's not always this so like
115:27 there's like small things you do when
115:29 you kind of consider like hey now you're
115:30 going to look at someone's face all the
115:32 time you know but we still wanted to
115:34 respect that it's there um so like you
115:37 know you try to resp you try to capture
115:39 the truth of a character you know but
115:41 you make little
115:43 but all righty uh are we are we shutting
115:46 down the stream or are we just like not
115:48 just pause yeah we can just pause as in
115:51 I'm we're going to like be right back
115:52 because we're going toad not bad yeah
115:54 yeah we're at 10, you're becoming a
115:56 streamer now yeah yeah sure uh yeah with
115:59 my 300 audience normally yeah sure I
116:02 mean are this is a you know see I don't
116:04 know if you're leaving because what I'm
116:05 going to do now we're going to just play
116:07 what are we playing actually
116:09 DF and then we will played the Jinx yeah
116:12 the Jinx mini game so what I'm probably
116:13 going to do I'm literally just going to
116:14 walk around and look at these tracks oh
116:16 like way you're in the environment yeah
116:18 yeah yeah yeah yeah that that so it
116:21 really important we hear what people
116:23 think about this because the team worked
116:24 really hard to you know you know uh to
116:27 craft something there um to just be able
116:30 for the first time step into you know
116:31 like kind of like the world of of league
116:33 and I think it's a really cool
116:34 exploration to kind of see you know what
116:36 we take away from it if we want to do
116:37 more of this right um if people like it
116:39 but um yeah it's uh just another you
116:44 know like a deeper look into locations
116:47 of the world of
116:49 Arcane and again yeah got to be more
116:52 prob
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