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The Majority Report with Sam Cedar discusses current political events, focusing on criticism of Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer's leadership, the upcoming 2024 election landscape, and Supreme Court rulings, while also touching on social and economic issues.

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IT IS TUESDAY,

November 11th, 2025. My name is Sam

Cedar. This is the fivetime

award-winning majority report.

We are broadcasting live steps from the

industrially ravaged Gowanas Canal in

the heartland of America,

downtown Brooklyn, USA.

On the program today,

Michael Blake, former New York Assemblyman,

Assemblyman,

challenging Congressman Richie Torres

for New York's 15th Congressional District.

District.

Then Jay Willis, editor-inchief of Balls

and Strikes

on the oral arguments in front of the

Supreme Court regarding

Also on the program today, Senate passes

>> the continuing resolution

last night.

Now it goes to the House.

Meanwhile, Indivisible Move On the Plec.

A half a dozen House U members all call

No end established for FAA flight cuts

as some airports are down to 60% operations.

New report in the wake of tear gasing a one-year-old

>> Gestapo I'm sorry Bovino and ICE to

Trump looking to open California to

offshore drilling.

Hundred lawmakers push Starbucks to

resume union contract negotiations.

A Utah judge denies the Republican

gerrymander map.

Sides with the plaintiff on a map that

may give the Democrats a seat.

>> Trump meets with former Al Qaeda

commander and current Syrian president.

New report from a whistleblower.

Glain Maxwell.

She's planning on getting a commutation

from Donald Trump. Imagine that.

All after Donald Trump's former defense

attorney, now uh DOJ

>> meets with Golain Maxwell. Fascinating.

>> All that and more on today's Majority

Report. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

got a little bit of an early start

today. We got a busy day. Emma Vigland

out today.

>> Ostensibly on some type of um

I don't know. Uh like >> junket.

>> junket.

>> Yeah, she's on a junket. But

uh it seems like uh there's a lot of

like muffin baskets associated with that

junket if you get my message.

>> You probably don't.

>> I get it.

>> No idea. Yeah, it's a biz. It's a biz

[clears throat]

A lot of organizations

um a lot of organizations came out uh

calling for Chuck Schumer's resignation. Um

and uh Chuck Schumer really wants you to

know that

he had nothing to do with it. The here's

He's trying to pretend he had nothing to

do with this. The only problem is, and

that would be you'd be able to get away

with that if you weren't leader of the

And um

apparently a lot of uh Democratic

senators are uh saying that well

now's not the time to make an issue of

this. But there's a lot of talk that

Chuck Schumer is not going to be

the Senate minority leader or majority

leader come 2027.

We shall see about that. and and he's up

And uh I think there's got to be decent

money on the idea that maybe he'll

resign or retire, I should say. I mean,

it's been 45,

50 years. How old is he? He first became

a congressman in 2023. Excuse me, 23. At

>> Yeah. 74. He's 74. He's been in office

for 41 years.

>> Battle tested.

>> No, wait a second. I'm sorry. 51 years.

>> Over half a century.

>> You know, at one point you got to say

enough is enough. Like what is the what

is the legacy that Chuck Schumer thinks

he's going to get?

Uh, I would suggest letting Obama's main

uh successes, the Iran deal and

Obamacare die on his watch.

>> Yep. Well, I mean, he he was against the

Here is Chuck Shim. Let's do this on the

floor of the Senate. [sighs]

[sighs]

We will win. Go ahead.

>> But let me be clear. However this vote

turns out,

this fight will and must continue.

Democrats must fight because of millions

of millions of families will lose

healthc care coverage. We must fight

because children who are dying of cancer

will not get healthc care coverage. We

must fight because a senior citizen

cannot afford to pay $25,000 a year just

for health insurance. We must fight to

keep millions from financial ruin. And

make no mistake about it, the American

people know who is inflicting

this healthc care trauma on them. Donald

Trump and the Republicans.

>> All right. I I I want to be jud I I want

to be generous here.

I don't know if I've heard uh him say

Donald Trump and the Republicans

>> in a long time. No MAGA, none of this.

It's actually uh Donald Trump and the Republicans.

Republicans.

Here's the problem with Chuck Schumer.

Well, there's multiple problems. The the

guy is not a leader.

He's just simply not. I'm sorry. He's a concierge

and

he's up there trying to be passionate on

the Senate floor and reading.

You can't remember that they're cutting

a spending package to be approved, a

part of the deal to reopen the

government. I mean, come on. He's just

sitting here reading off of a document,

but trying to make it sound like he's

impassion. Uh Senator, you really need

to sound impassioned.

And then like I don't know who this is

for anymore. Like I I without a doubt at

one time

people would read Axios or Politico and

actually like we're naive enough to

think like they're learning something.

>> But this uh scoop,

>> what was it in? Axios or >> Axio?

>> Axio?

>> Axios. Here's the scoop. Schumer

privately fought to extend government

shutdown. Where do you where I wonder

where that scoop came from? [laughter]

>> This This reporter probably had to do a

lot of digging as in like, "Wait, my

phone's ringing on my table. I got to

find it." Oh, okay. Oh, hello. Uh, Chuck

Schumer's chief of staff. What? Oh. Oh,

really? Is that right?

Here's the story. I mean, this is this

is what we call a beet sweetener.

the the chief of staff or whoever it is

from Chuck Schumer's office calls the

reporter and goes, "Hey man, here's a

story we got for you. And if you do me a

solid on this,

I'll hook you up with something in the future."

Why it matters. Senate uh majority

minority leader Chuck Schumer publicly

battled Republicans over the government

shutdown. He was privately cajoling a

group of moderates not to fold before November.

Democrats are blaming uh Schumer for not

prolonging the shutdown. In reality, it

could have been much shorter.

Two weeks into the shutdown, a group of

moderates told Schumer they were ready

to vote to open the government.

According to three sources familiar with

the conversation,

it's unclear if that group was big

enough to end the shutdown. In other

words, that group was not big enough to

But Schumer persuaded the moderates to

hold out at least until the beginning of

November when open enrollment for the

The number of arrows

in Chuck Schumer's quiver

to cajul or convince these moderates.

You couldn't I mean it's not even it's

not even arrows. There was like a cannon

in his quiver.

All the polling showed Donald Trump at

his lowest approval rating during the

shutdown. All the polling showed that

Republicans were overwhelmingly being

blamed for it. All the po polling showed

and all the news media showed that

people were outraged at the um at the

increase in their ACA um uh insurance bills.

bills.

they were getting blamed for insurance

bills across the country and across like

outside of the ACA because in part of

like uh the big beautiful bill stuff,

but nevertheless, Republicans were

getting blamed for what they wanted and

needed to. And then and then a week ago,

the Democrats had the most electoral

success that they have had

in any given day

for ages. Maybe since 2018, but maybe

since before then. They didn't lose a

single race. They didn't lose dog

catcher in in in New Jersey. I mean, nowhere.

At the very beginning of the shutdown,

Schumer was put on notice by a group of

moderate Democrats. Didn't want to pick

the the government shutdown fight in the

first place. Yes, that was obvious. We

could see the contemporaneous reporting.

We let them know what we were doing,

said Jenner uh said Jean Shaheen,

who led the bipartisan talks to find a

compromise. In fact, you'll recall they

did make a deal two weeks ago. Am I the

only person who remembers this? They did

say like, "Okay, we'll do a one-year

extension." And they got rejected by

John Thoon.

So, they go, "What was Schumer doing?

Where was the value ad uh that Schumer

was bringing to this?" Asked if he felt

that Schumer was working against her

compromise package. Shaheen declined to

comment. I don't really uh want to get

"I promise you we will we will cave. I

promise you we'll cave."

What kind of bull is this?

>> This is and and the and you can just

tell by the way this piece is written,

by Sunday afternoon, the Democrat uh

Democratic moderates ultimately decided

that the cost of continuing the shutdown

exceeded the benefits. What were the costs?

particularly relative to everything

else. The bottom line is that the the

money people were getting pressure about

what was going on with the airlines.

You ready? Okay. This is what they said.

They extracted a promise from Republican

leaders to hold a vote in December on

extending the ACA credits. They

extracted it. Incidentally, what they

did not extract was a vote in the House.

They only extracted,

I yanked it from them, an opportunity to

lose a vote in the Senate, not even to

hold the vote in the House.

So there is 100%

chance of this not passing.

Those ACA um

subsidies gone.

Not even a vote in the House.

Internally, Schumer and most of his

caucus argued that the concession wasn't enough.

enough.

But eight Democrats who caucus with the

Democrats broke ranks. What? What is

Now, let's be honest. Dick Durban voted

for this. You'll notice they all all the

people who voted are not up for

Half of them are resigning. I mean,

retiring. Maybe not half, but a third.

Dick Durban is Chuck Schumer's best

friend in the Senate. Like roommate best

friend. like they were roommates for

years and years and years and years.

When Dick Durban votes for something,

more often than not, he's doing it for Schumer.

Schumer couldn't convince his best

That's quite a cajol.

>> The heat is on them when they do this.

Yes. Uh so you have a lot of

organizations coming out for Schumer's

uh resign uh resignation. He won't do it.

it.

He won't do it. But I guarantee you we

saw uh one of his uh longtime uh aids um

Uh my guess is you're going to see over

the course of the next 3 to 6 months at

least a couple more leave because they

know it's over. It's over for Chuck

He may be done as the leader in 2027

after the midterms, but it's over for

Chuck Schumer. And they know it. And

Schumer knows.

I don't know if Schumer knows it, but

his staff knows it. The staff knows it.

They're all looking for other jobs right now.

now.

>> And that is not Kentucky fried French fries.

fries.

>> It is not Kentucky Fried French fries.

All right. In a moment, we're going to

be talking to Michael Blake. He is um

uh running for

the uh in the Democratic primary for the

15th uh district in New York. It's uh

Richie Torres's

currently sitting in that seat. I

>> remember him.

>> I Yeah, you you may recall the last time

we heard of Richie Torres. Um he was on

the Adam Freedelland show

>> and that was when I think he moved from

a guy who very likely may lose his

congressional seat

uh from being the future of the

Democratic party. There's a quick turnaround.

Somebody must have been fired over that interview.

interview.

>> I Somebody wasn't honestly. It's like um

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>> We are back. Sam Cedar on the Majority

Report. Emma Viglland out today. Joining

us now, Michael Blake. He is uh among

other things, a candidate for the 15th

district uh of New York in the uh

primary. Um and that uh this is a um uh

a second goround for you. Is that right, Michael?

Michael?

>> It is. Uh in in 2020, we we made this

this run. uh we came a close second and

uh we're continuing to see that there's

more that's needed in the district

around cost of living, around

affordability, and just desperate

change. And that's why we we're running

because we deserve better in the Bronx.

>> Let's talk about what we have right now

in the Bronx. Uh and that is Congressman

Richie Torres. Um he um the the

Democratic establishment, I have to say,

has been trying to push this guy as the

future of the Democratic party. and he

seems to only have traction amongst sort

of the establishment in some ways, like

where where do you see him falling down

the most? And and and I have to say also

one of the the things that he seems to

have been

um has decided to be his like pet uh

project is uh defending the ongoing

genocide in uh in Gaza or I should say

the um uh the one that took place that

we now you know new reporting has shown

what the Biden administration knew uh contemporaneously.

contemporaneously.

Uh what is your sense of of all of that

in terms of Richie Torres?

>> I think when you look at what the the

energy is in New York uh you know I was

someone who crossendors Donnie our mayor

elect Richie Torres refused to endorse

me he actually endorsed Andrew Cuomo.

When we talk about the energy of how

I've helped mobilize Democrats across

New York and across the country, Richie

Torres has not only attacked the members

of the squad, he's called the DSA a

Mickey Mouse party and has literally

told people uh to go f off uh when he

didn't agree with them. Uh there is a

new vision of what's happening right now

uh in which people are saying enough is

enough and that we're sick and tired of

it. And so in the district, Sam say the

poorest congressional district in the

country, a district where just recently

an explosion happened at one of our

public housing developments, a district

where you have a community in New York

City where one out of four people are in

poverty and wondering how they're going

to pay their bills. A a district that we

still are wondering what will happen if

and when ICE rolls up in the Bronx

because we saw what they did in Canal

Street. Uh, as someone who is a son of

Jamaican immigrants, I'm saying very

clearly there is a new vision of what we

can and deserve to have in this district

in the Bronx. And when we think about

what's at at play, whether it be for

health care, where I've said we need to

have Medicare for all, whether it be on

housing, where I said that we need to

have an ending of credit scores for

housing applications, a guaranteed local

median income, and expanding out housing

income limits because too often you have

to be too poor or rich enough to get

access to a home. that we have to cancel

student debt, that we have to say very

simply that ICE has no damn place in our

communities, and that you can say and I

will say as an ordained reverend who has

been to Israel twice, who has baptized

people in the Jordan River, who has

prayed at the Western Wall, that yes,

what Hamas did was inhumane and brutal,

but at the same time, a genocide is

happening. You can say both at the same

time. And when we talk about what is

occurring in this party, people are

saying we need something better. You

cannot say that you can watch how Senate

Democrats, eight Senate Democrats caved

this past week where they made a

decision on a deal that does not

guarantee that we will have the

Affordable Care Act continuing because

they wanted to agree with the

Republicans. I am not here to agree with

Republicans. I'm not here to agree with

Richie Torres. I'm here to be with the

people and that is the reason why more

than two million people have already

watched our launch video. It's the

reason why we have heard from across the

district. People are excited about what

we want to do and we said very clearly

if you know that we deserve better than

my name is Michael Blake and I want to

be your congressman for the South Bronx.

>> Have you Michael um um have you you know

over the course of the past two years

have you had constituents come up to you

and go like hey uh I just want you to

know I made a mistake. [laughter]

Um I I should have voted for you the

first time. um uh uh and didn't uh has

there been like a a sense that Torres

has been out there sort of I don't know

he's been it seems at least from from

here that he's been a little bit

distance uh from his own uh district and

more out there trying to make make a

name for himself in uh you know the the

the establishment circles. Yeah. So the

the we've had people who in the last few

days in the last few weeks and last few

months would remind me come up to me and

say we will never forget that in that

first race that you were out there

feeding people during COVID and giving

out PPE and we have a chance to do this

right this time. Right? You have folks

who are saying very clearly, he is not

who we thought he was and we want to do

something different. And when people

have been saying, yo, you know what? We

want to learn more. I've been real

clear. Go to our website, go to

michaelblade for congressongress.com and

see the vision, right? See what we're

talking about. See when we talk about

for Puerto Rico, Sam to your question,

the dynamic of self-determination. We

just came back from Somos. You can't

represent the South Bronx and the West

Bronx and not talk about Puerto Rico and

DR and Jamaica and the Caribbean where

we have said I stand for

self-determination trust in the people.

Richie is currently standing on

statehood with a Republican leadership

that is believing in that. So you have

folks who are saying we now see what is

happening. We are listening to what is

happening. And what is also important to

appreciate is that in this congressional

district, a district where you had so

many attacks happening against Zoron in

the election, not only did the mayor

elect win the congressional district, he

won the assembly district that they kept

trying to tell people folks would not

support him because he was talking about

cost of living, which I'm talking about

because he's talking about

affordability, which is what I'm talking

about. And what people are wondering

right now is what did you do Richie when

you had the power when you were in

Congress and Dems had control of

everything? What changed now when you're

there? What is changing? And they can't

say that. It's not enough to just say I

got funding for your community project.

It's not enough to say that he showed up

for your event. You have to ask

yourself, is my life changing for the

better? And the answer is no. And so you

have a lot of folks that have been

excited about what we're doing, how we

can bring people together of all

different communities who are are ready

to rock and and quite frankly, they're

just ready for real, right? They they're

just ready for Democrats to be point

blank and say, "You know what? You may

not agree with anything I'm saying, but

I'm going to be real with you. I'm going

to talk with you. I'm going to listen to

you, and I'm going to be in this

moment." And and folks really want to

see that we deserve better and we can

have better, and that's what I'm

presenting and why I'm running for

Congress. have you uh in the wake of uh

Mamani's win and you were uh in uh the

uh Democratic primary um for mayor. Um

and I will have to say that I think um

uh Andrew Cuomo is probably still a

little bit um stinging uh from uh from

sitting on the same stage with you at

that time. uh and uh you know, but I'm

sure I'm sure that he'll find a a spa to

relax in in Florida uh to take care of

that. But have you found like there like

give me a sense of like the renewed

energy um that uh if you've had a sense

of one in the wake of Mam Donnie

winning? We got to appreciate

when you have an election that had

turnout in levels that we haven't seen

since the late 60s. When you have a

scenario where Zoron exceeded a million

votes. When we think about the dynamic

of what's happening where young voters

and communities of color mobilize in a

way that we have not seen,

not only does it show you that cost of

living and affordability connected, but

also if you give them an energy, they're

going to connect with you, right? And

you just can't ignore. And it's not just

obviously what happened in New York. You

saw that in New Jersey, you saw that in

Virginia, obviously with Prop 50. I

mean, Prop 50 in California had levels

where people were showing up more than

they were in presidential races. like

just like folks are ready for something

that's different in a very powerful way.

And I saw that on the ground and I said

throughout the the mayoral campaign into

now, why did Zoran and I crossendorse

each other in the primary? Because we

both were talking about cost of living.

Why did we cross endorse each other?

Because we both talking about the issues

on the ground. And that's what people

want you to hear. They want to hear.

They want to see. And they want to

understand. And I do know, not believe

that that energy is going to continue

because what we're watching right now is

you had incredible energy happen last

Tuesday and then you have this

foolishness happened this week of caving

to the Republicans and people saying

enough and they are done. It's the

reason why you have people that are

flooding the phone lines in Maryland

saying we demand that you actually do

redistricting right now. It's the reason

why there's going to be a case in early

January around redistricting here in New

York because folks want to understand

what are you doing for us and that

energy continuing. And what I'm saying

to everybody is if you are tired of

listening to how Richie Torres has taken

stances that are not democratic and not

supportive of the people, then you have

a choice. You have a choice in someone

in Michael Blake who not only created

the only My Brothers Keep It program

that's statewide in the country here in

New York, who not only had an effort

where minority women owned businesses

get access capital that they're not, who

not only can say very clearly that I

have helped people get elected across

New York and across the country, but I'm

actually going to fight for you when it

comes to your groceries and what it

comes to you in terms of transportation

and that you have someone that's real.

That's why we're here right now. Uh

we've had about um I think it's now up

to four or five uh Congress people uh

call for um uh for Chuck Schumer to to

step down from his leadership in in the

wake of this uh I I I wouldn't even call

it a deal for uh the to end the

government shutdown. This uh the ACA uh

vote is just is a vote that's going to

lose in the Senate. There's not even

going to be a vote in the House. there's

no way that these subsidies can extend.

Um, what's your opinion about uh both

Schumer uh in terms of his leadership

and uh for that matter Jeff?

>> Look, the the the Senate and obviously

they're going to have to make their

decision uh on what they're going to do

uh about uh Senator Schumer itself. You

know, my focus is is running and winning

this race. Uh

real talk, let me I'm gonna make it real

personal before I get into the the

process of it. I was born with a heart

murmur, right? I I was in the NICU for

three and a half weeks. You can maybe

see it behind me, but behind me further

back is a portrait of the Lord's supper

that my mama and daddy got for me uh to

watch over me because they were just

hoping I would make it as a kid.

Uh we have a family that's overcome cancer.

cancer.

Uh today being Veterans Day, my oldest

brother served this army for 29 years.

The notion that a socalled deal

was agreed upon that wasn't going to

People are going to die because what

just happened. And sometimes folks don't

want to be like that real. Like like if

you are wondering about your bills and

you're in a scenario where I'm wondering

if I could pay for my groceries or my

rent or go to the doctor, we know over

and over again what people decide,

>> right? And so I I do think there's some

real conversation they have to have uh

in the House and Senate uh about the

vision of what's happening here. Uh it's

definitely disappointing, right? Uh to

that degree

and that's one reason I'm running,

right? And it's one reason why uh I have

said very publicly uh people see it on

X. I was like, look, we need Medicare

for all, right? It's another reminder of

why this next generation is necessary uh

in Congress. And it's not just about

having a Democrat. It's about having the

right Democrat. And that's what we want

to bring to the South Bronx. And that's

the reason I want people to join us what

we're doing and in making sure that

Richie Torres does not get reelected,

but that we get elected to Congress and

help the people. Michael, if people um

from around the country or from frankly

around New York City want to get

involved with your campaign, help uh how

they can, what uh where where should

they go?

>> Michael Blake4ongress.com,

go to the website, sign up, continue to

engage with us, donate, volunteer, all

the things we need. Go follow us on

social media. If you see Michael Blake

for Congress or you see Blake for the

Bronx, um we need you to be rocking with

us there. Uh and and I and I just want

people to appreciate

that this is a new day in what's

happening in this country. You should be

excited, inspired, motivated by the

people that are representing you. And

I'm giving you a new vision. You do not

have to stay with a person like Richie

Torres when it comes to representing the

people of the South and West Bronx. If

you are ready for new change and you

believe in the Bronx, I'm asking you to

rock with me. My name is Michael Blake.

Join us at michaelblakeforongress.com

so we can show that we can actually do

this better.

>> And we should just remind people I think

uh the election is in uh third week of

June in next year.

>> Yeah. Well, we're waiting on the final

day. Usually that fourth week and it'll

be a very active election. Uh because

it's governor, AG, state senate, state

assembly, comroll all on the ball at the

same time. Uh and we're going to show

people some momentum and and I'm going

to give this teaser. I can't say who. Uh

but be prepared that a a major

endorsement is going to happen within

the next seven days right out the gate.

Uh people gonna see that we're for real.

People going to see that that there's

momentum that is happening here. Uh and

and if you are ready for change around

the country, Democrats, we've been

listening to you. If you're ready for

change and you want a real Democrat, a

real progressive, someone who's going to

speak up and fight for you, go to

michael blade for Congress.com and

support us so we can make this happen.

>> All right. We're going to put a link uh

in the uh podcast and YouTube

description. Um

and I may even tweet it out. Although

Richie Torres has me blocked, so uh

>> I [laughter] mean that's exactly why you

should tweet it out. Exactly why you

should tweet it out. Uh so so it can

happen out there.

>> Somebody can somebody can uh uh uh uh

retweet it and uh send it to him. Uh

Michael Blake, uh thanks so much for

your time today. Really appreciate it.

>> Appreciate Appreciate everything you do,

man. and you've given a voice for a lot

of people. We're grateful for you.

>> Thanks for coming on. We'll uh we'll

again we'll put that link in the podcast

and YouTube description. All right,

folks. Uh we're going to take a quick

break. When we come back, we're going to

be talking to Jay Willis, editor and

chief of Balls and Strikes on this

We are back Sam Cedar on the Majority

Report. It's a pleasure to welcome to

the program Jay Willis. He is the

editor-inchief of Balls and Strikes. Um

Jay, welcome uh to the program.

>> Hey, good morning, Sam. Thank you so

much for having me. So, uh, we've got

this case that was just argued in front

of the Supreme Court, uh, about the

president's authority under the, um, the

EIP, the, uh, emergency Well, I I can

never remember what, uh, what it is, but it's

it's

>> Me neither. It's fine.

>> It's a, it's an emergency powers that

he's he is contending he has to um

impose tariffs. And we should say

Congress also or the House abdicated its

responsibility in the passage of the big

uh beautiful bill I think it was or the

continuing resolution the first time

around. It was the continuing resolution

in March saying uh we abdicated

authority over tariffs until I think it

was till 2026 to allow them to escape

any responsibility for this. Before we

get into the specifics of that case,

will you remind us of the arguments that

were made and how the Supreme Court

ruled when Joe Biden tried to exercise

emergency powers under the Education Act

to uh that supposedly, at least we all

thought, allowed him to wave or um uh uh modify

modify

uh loan repayments.

Yeah, I will. And thank you again for

having me. And it's it's been wild to

sort of read about this case and listen

to oral arguments, I guess it was last

week, and think, wait, weren't we just

here? Didn't we just figure out what

presidents can and can't do? Um, but

you're right. Uh, under in 2023, the

court decided the case Biden v. Nebraska

about Biden's student debt relief plan.

And Biden had grounded his plan in a

provision of federal law that allows him

to, and I'll quote, wave or modify

certain legal obligations during

national emergencies. Biden's position

was that a deadly pandemic that had

ground the global economy to a halt

probably constituted an emergency such

that he could extend partial student

debt relief to a cohort, excuse me, a

cohort of lower income borrowers.

But the Supreme Court and specifically

the six conservatives on the Supreme

Court said nuhuh uhuh uh-uh and they

based their opinion on what they call

the major questions doctrine. I want to

stress that the major questions doctrine

is something that the Supreme Court has

created. And what it says is basically

if the president is asserting if the

president is asserting that Congress

delegated to him uh some power under

federal law that Congress has to be

really clear before giving the president

power to do u to do basically anything

big. Uh vast economic significance is

the court's language. stripped of legal

ease. The court just says, "Listen,

Biden forgiving student debt relief too

big a deal to be legal." So the question here,

here,

>> can we just stop here for a moment on

this? Sure. Because the major questions,

doctrine, I just want to remind people. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Is was made up out of whole cloth? I

went to law school for a year in 1990 or

91. I can't remember what it was. >> Condolences.

>> Condolences.

>> And yes, uh I've recovered. It's take it

took a while. I've recovered. But when I

went to law school, we were still almost

15 or 20 years away from the concept of

the major questions doctrine for even

being in existence. Like this is so um

unripe as it were. Like this is and it

was made up from whole cloth. this idea

of like what like there's no limiting

principle to or defining principle as to

what major economic implications are or

I mean none of it. It all just seems to

be a basically like a you know it's a

it's a it's a wild card or get out of

free jail card where uh the the

conservatives just go we're going to use

this now actually

>> and you're right and that's why it's

such a powerful tool in the justice's

hands and particularly in the

conservative justice's hands because

here you have I mean again my view is

that co 19 is much more was much more

clearly an emergency than Trump saying

uh trade deficits exist or Canada ran an

advertisement with Reagan that I didn't

like that hurt my feelings. That's my

opinion. But you don't have to agree

with me to see that the framework is

really similar. You have a president

using kind of unclear statutory language

uh and asserting that to implement a

major item on his policy agenda. The

difference now is that the court didn't

like and didn't support Joe Biden and

does like and does support Donald Trump.

>> Okay. And so now, but they they have

also a dilemma because and and and you

write about this that

they want to preserve

they they they want to preserve some of

this and so they have to sort of thread

the needle so that they they can say um

that I mean really I mean the long and

short of it in my opinion is they just

there's two things that they want to

protect. They want to protect the Fed

and they want to protect um uh trade.

Everything else they're basically

willing to say to Donald Trump, "Yeah,

go have at it." But they've got to be

careful in the way that they rule in

this case because they don't want to

rely too much on the major questions

doctrine you according to what you've

written. So they're trying to find sort

of more technical ways in which they can

sort of stop Trump from doing these

tariffs, but still sort of reserve the

um the I guess the

the the pristineess of the major

questions doctrine.

>> Yeah, I would add that to your list of

things that the court wants to preserve.

the Fed, trade, and their own power to

strike down future democratic policies

that they don't like. So, an oral

argument, the liberal justices, you

could tell they're like still pretty

annoyed about how the student debt debt

case went down. I'll just give one

representative example. Sonia Soto,

excuse me, Sonia Sotomayor said to Trump

solicitor general, "I don't understand

your argument. like, didn't we just say

that the president, you know, can't

assert broad uh statutory powers under

madeup emergencies?

And the solicitor general tried to

distinguish to say, oh, you know,

education policy, that's domestic

tariffs, that's foreign affairs, that's

really, you know, presidential power.

And soayor said, okay, so so Biden could

have just said that student debt was a

global warming, climate change crisis,

and he could have got in his way. Now,

the answer like of course not. She's

being sarcastic. But the point is that

she's showing that there's no real

distinction here. The court just didn't

like uh the policy in the student debt

case and is a little more friendly to

this president. Certainly has been since

he took office for the second time nine

months ago.

>> And so what where are the conservative

justices in terms of way they apply it?

or or how are they going to get how are

they going to like sort of like how are

they going to be able to serve their two

masters of one maintaining their sort of

like um wild card that they get to play

and two also protecting tariffs.

>> Well, it is good news that you know for

once the conservative justices at oral

argument were a little more skeptical of

Trump's position than they usually have

been. And I think that goes back to your

point, which is that the conservative

justices do want Trump to have power, do

want Republican presidents more

generally to have power, but not when it

can start interfering with sort of the

traditional conservative legal

establishment, Wall Street types. Like

they are beholdened to that wing of the

conservative movement as well. And I

think they understand that if a

Republican president kicks off a

self-inflicted recession on their watch,

that's bad for the Republican party's

electoral future. But what they need to

do then is figure out a way they can

dispose of these tariffs or roll back

these tariffs without limiting their

power in the future. So I'll give two

examples. Brett Kavanaaugh at oral

argument said look f excuse me previous

presidents they've never tried to um

impose tariffs under this law IPA so

maybe that just suggests that you know

there's a common understanding that

doesn't allow presidents to do this sort

of similarly Amy Coney Barrett she said

look there are other federal laws that

explicitly allow presidents to impose

tariffs this law IPA does not So maybe

we can just resolve it this way. I think

the I think the thing to understand here

is that the major questions doctrine is

not and never was, you know, a a rule

that this court was going to apply

even-handedly. You were never going to

get John Roberts up there saying, "Well,

look, I mean, we said student debt

relief, that was a major question, so

tariffs, this must be a major question,

too." No. The less they say about the

major questions doctrine in the case,

the better for them because it preserves

the most flexibility for them going

forward of rolling back future sort of

progressive policies that Democratic

Democratic presidents might try out.

>> Okay, there's two things there I want to

address. Um uh one being and I know you

just have a couple of minutes left here,

but one being sort of like their that

whole their whole sort of strategic and

and tactical way in which they're sort

of reserving like they're making

decisions without really saying anything

about them. Uh so that they can't be

sort of held to account down the road on

some level. I want to get to that in a

second. But just those two things that

Kavanaaugh and Coney Barrett, they're so

desperate to uh to address this in that

matter. Like the idea I it seems to me I

mean with with Coney Barrett the idea

that like um

it emergency doesn't specifically call

but I mean the nature of an emergency is

like we don't know what's going to

succeed in that instance. Um, and so you

would imagine it's pretty broad what you

can do to address an emergency. Um, the

real question, it seems to me, is is

this an emergency? Like, and are they in

a position to make an assessment on the

facts in the case? Like, would that be a

more of like a factf finding? Is there

an emergency that would justify an

emergency response?

>> This actually came up at oral argument

as well. Like traditionally the courts

kind of defer to the elected branches as

to you know determining what an

emergency is but like what a coincidence

here that helps their favorite president

you know that's a point in his favor and

Justice Kagan brought this up at one

point um when the solicitor general said

well look under the law presidents they

have to formally declare emergencies so

that will that will prevent abuses of

power going forward and Kagan said, "All

this court has done for the last 9

months in two dozen straight cases is

give Trump what he wants when he asserts

emergency powers. All we've done is say

yes, Mr. President, this we like we are

we are not going to second guessess your

declaration of an emergency here." So

like that you're right, that's not

really a constraint on Trump's power.

It's more just like kind of a box he has

to check going through the motions. But

no, like the justices aren't going to

they aren't going to weigh in here and

say, you know, trade deficits aren't an

emergency now. Like they aren't. Anyone

who's been alive for the last 50 years

while this country's been running trade

deficits probably doesn't think that

this country has been in a half ccentury

straight of economic emergencies. So,

it's kind of like if Trump's going to

try it, then we move on to the next

order question of, well, can we, the

conservative justices, figure out a way

to keep these tariffs, or can we get rid

of them again for the the sake of the

Republican party's electoral future?

>> Um, all right. So, let's move to that

the other part. They want to protect the

uh major questions doctrine because the more that they write about how it works,

more that they write about how it works, the more it becomes something other than

the more it becomes something other than essentially a wild card that they can

essentially a wild card that they can apply whenever they deem fit because

apply whenever they deem fit because they're not bound by their own uh

they're not bound by their own uh restrictions or contours that they've

restrictions or contours that they've created for the application of of that

created for the application of of that doctrine in the past. And they're doing

doctrine in the past. And they're doing the same thing in the shadow docket.

the same thing in the shadow docket. Right.

Right. >> Right.

>> Right. >> Yeah. Walk us through that briefly.

>> Yeah. Walk us through that briefly. >> Sure. So, you know, the thesis of what I

>> Sure. So, you know, the thesis of what I wrote is that the less the conservative

wrote is that the less the conservative justices say about the major questions

justices say about the major questions doctrine, the better because then they

doctrine, the better because then they don't have to, you know, potentially

don't have to, you know, potentially deal reconcile what they say in this

deal reconcile what they say in this case with the major questions doctrine

case with the major questions doctrine next time they try to assert it. you

next time they try to assert it. you know, um, when President JB Pritsker

know, um, when President JB Pritsker tries to use executive power in some way

tries to use executive power in some way that they don't like. Now, there's also

that they don't like. Now, there's also a possibility, and this gets like a

a possibility, and this gets like a little in the weeds of how the courts

little in the weeds of how the courts court works, but it's like a

court works, but it's like a time-honored Roberts trick, so I want to

time-honored Roberts trick, so I want to bring it up. There's also a possibility

bring it up. There's also a possibility that a conservative justice tries to

that a conservative justice tries to write an opinion that, you know, strikes

write an opinion that, you know, strikes down or rolls back Trump's tariffs under

down or rolls back Trump's tariffs under the major questions doctrine to try to

the major questions doctrine to try to get the liberal justices to sign on to

get the liberal justices to sign on to it to endorse the major questions

it to endorse the major questions doctrine. And this is something that

doctrine. And this is something that John Roberts in particular loves doing.

John Roberts in particular loves doing. He's done it in a lot of the court's

He's done it in a lot of the court's voting rights cases. He's written sort

voting rights cases. He's written sort of narrow technical opinions that a

of narrow technical opinions that a liberal justice or two will sign on to

liberal justice or two will sign on to and then later when he uses that case

and then later when he uses that case to, you know, roll back significant

to, you know, roll back significant chunks of the Voting Rights Act, he'll

chunks of the Voting Rights Act, he'll say, "Well, look, this court's, you

say, "Well, look, this court's, you know, on a this court's across

know, on a this court's across ideological lines said this just a

ideological lines said this just a couple years ago. So, what are my

couple years ago. So, what are my liberal colleagues so upset about?" But

liberal colleagues so upset about?" But the point is either way, whether the

the point is either way, whether the justices don't say anything about the

justices don't say anything about the major questions doctrine or whether the

major questions doctrine or whether the conservatives try and, you know, get the

conservatives try and, you know, get the liberals to endorse it, they're not

liberals to endorse it, they're not going to do anything in this case that

going to do anything in this case that takes away their future power to

takes away their future power to interfere with Democratic policies. And

interfere with Democratic policies. And that's why you saw the Republican

that's why you saw the Republican justices spend so much time at oral

justices spend so much time at oral arguments talking about these very

arguments talking about these very technical offramps sort of for getting

technical offramps sort of for getting rid of this case in a way that um you

rid of this case in a way that um you know that wouldn't cast dispersions on

know that wouldn't cast dispersions on something even like their student debt

something even like their student debt case from two years ago.

case from two years ago. Um just another example of how these

Um just another example of how these guys are basically um working backwards

guys are basically um working backwards it seems to me from how they want to

it seems to me from how they want to rule on something and then sort of

rule on something and then sort of backfilling it with some type of

backfilling it with some type of rationale. Uh Jay Willis, editor-inchief

rationale. Uh Jay Willis, editor-inchief of Balls and Strikes. Uh we'll put a

of Balls and Strikes. Uh we'll put a link back uh to your work in that piece.

link back uh to your work in that piece. Uh really appreciate you coming on and

Uh really appreciate you coming on and talking to us about it.

talking to us about it. >> Thanks y'all so much for having me.

>> Thanks y'all so much for having me. Appreciate you.

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>> I don't remember who we had last week." >> Yeah, exactly. I mean, the whole point

>> Yeah, exactly. I mean, the whole point of the best ofves for me is like just to

of the best ofves for me is like just to remember what we did that year.

remember what we did that year. >> Definitely putting shirtless Russell

>> Definitely putting shirtless Russell Brand in there.

Brand in there. >> What's that?

>> What's that? >> Definitely putting shirtless Russell

>> Definitely putting shirtless Russell Brand in there with your

Brand in there with your >> That was uh I still haven't recovered

>> That was uh I still haven't recovered from that. Actually, [laughter]

from that. Actually, [laughter] I'm have to have to start like an

I'm have to have to start like an entirely new regimen of therapy just to

entirely new regimen of therapy just to get past that. Poly Market should have

get past that. Poly Market should have bets on how many more episodes Russ is

bets on how many more episodes Russ is going to appear on. [laughter]

going to appear on. [laughter] If he if he's saying like I'm going to

If he if he's saying like I'm going to be optimistic about Zoron and also not

be optimistic about Zoron and also not get out of bed for this like I don't

get out of bed for this like I don't know how much I

know how much I >> I mean Brian said that that uh clip for

>> I mean Brian said that that uh clip for them did very very well for them.

them did very very well for them. >> For them

>> For them >> and I I I'm like I would put the odds of

>> and I I I'm like I would put the odds of Dave Rubin saying to Russell like hey

Dave Rubin saying to Russell like hey man maybe take a shirt off again. Maybe

man maybe take a shirt off again. Maybe they'll all be shirtless.

they'll all be shirtless. >> Exactly. [laughter]

>> Exactly. [laughter] >> Just gonna be my god.

>> Just gonna be my god. >> How awesome would it be if people showed

>> How awesome would it be if people showed up one day uh in the majority report we

up one day uh in the majority report we just started and I was just lounging in

just started and I was just lounging in my

my >> I think it's not great for like ad

>> I think it's not great for like ad revenue though. Don't don't doesn't it

revenue though. Don't don't doesn't it don't been shirtless doesn't that count

don't been shirtless doesn't that count against the algorithm?

against the algorithm? >> I've uh I I get demonetized if I go down

>> I've uh I I get demonetized if I go down below this uh this button. We get

below this uh this button. We get demonetized immediately. though

demonetized immediately. though [laughter]

[laughter] that

that >> Thank God.

>> Thank God. >> Yeah, exactly.

>> Yeah, exactly. >> Actual friends.

>> Actual friends. >> Um, actual friends.

>> Um, actual friends. >> Got to subscribe to that.

>> Got to subscribe to that. >> Uh, what's happening on actual Left

>> Uh, what's happening on actual Left Reckoning?

Reckoning? >> Uh, it's actually changing times. It's

>> Uh, it's actually changing times. It's no longer tonight. It's going to be uh

no longer tonight. It's going to be uh right after the show today at 2:30.

right after the show today at 2:30. Check it out. We'll be playing it uh out

Check it out. We'll be playing it uh out for folks. So, uh, you know, uh, we got

for folks. So, uh, you know, uh, we got Katherine Lu on talking about the PMC

Katherine Lu on talking about the PMC and also, uh, Nick Bolan talking about

and also, uh, Nick Bolan talking about Orphan Wells in Oklahoma, and we, uh,

Orphan Wells in Oklahoma, and we, uh, uh, respond to the, uh, caving by

uh, respond to the, uh, caving by Schumer a little bit. So, yeah, check

Schumer a little bit. So, yeah, check that out today. And, uh, Jackabin show

that out today. And, uh, Jackabin show Friday morning at 10:00 a.m. So, look

Friday morning at 10:00 a.m. So, look over for the Jacabin, uh, YouTube page

over for the Jacabin, uh, YouTube page because we'll be there, too, as well.

because we'll be there, too, as well. >> Now, does it start at 2:30 exactly? Or

>> Now, does it start at 2:30 exactly? Or what if we we do what if we we go 2:30?

what if we we do what if we we go 2:30? >> What if we go to 230? What if we go to

>> What if we go to 230? What if we go to 240?

240? >> That's fine. Just we'll just lose

>> That's fine. Just we'll just lose audience for majority of poor because

audience for majority of poor because everyone's going to rush right over to

everyone's going to rush right over to >> So you're going to be on two shows at

>> So you're going to be on two shows at once on Fridays.

once on Fridays. >> No, on Tuesday.

>> No, on Tuesday. >> 10 a.m.

>> 10 a.m. >> Yeah, it's 10:00 a.m.

>> Yeah, it's 10:00 a.m. >> 10 a.m. How long is this?

>> 10 a.m. How long is this? >> It's not going to be live.

>> It's not going to be live. >> We'll be live at 10 a.m. on Fridays.

>> We'll be live at 10 a.m. on Fridays. >> We're live at 10 a.m. on Fridays.

>> We're live at 10 a.m. on Fridays. >> Oh, no. Never mind. I'm here at 10 a.m.

>> Oh, no. Never mind. I'm here at 10 a.m. So I [laughter]

So I [laughter] >> I assume the whole thing's the show.

>> I assume the whole thing's the show. Brian hasn't figured it out that it

Brian hasn't figured it out that it starts when the camera comes on.

starts when the camera comes on. >> A little thing called recording in

>> A little thing called recording in advance.

advance. >> I don't understand.

>> I don't understand. >> Brian's having a tough time today.

>> Brian's having a tough time today. >> I shouldn't even be here today.

>> I shouldn't even be here today. Honestly,

Honestly, >> it's true. It's Veterans Day. So, I just

>> it's true. It's Veterans Day. So, I just want you to know we did the show in

want you to know we did the show in honor of Brian. And I made it clear. I

honor of Brian. And I made it clear. I said, uh, you know, don't come in

said, uh, you know, don't come in tomorrow. And he refused because of his,

tomorrow. And he refused because of his, um, uh, what is it? The the oppositional

um, uh, what is it? The the oppositional >> defiance.

>> defiance. >> Defiance disorder. So refused refused

>> Defiance disorder. So refused refused orders. [laughter]

orders. [laughter] >> Ungovernable.

>> Ungovernable. >> He's It's impossible around here.

>> He's It's impossible around here. >> Uh Emma took off in uh took off for

>> Uh Emma took off in uh took off for Veterans Day today.

Veterans Day today. >> She's ducking my thank you for my

>> She's ducking my thank you for my service.

service. >> Exactly. Stolen valor.

>> Exactly. Stolen valor. >> Yeah,

>> Yeah, >> folks. See you in a fun half.

>> Three months from now, six months from now, nine months from now. And I don't

now, nine months from now. And I don't think it's going to be the same as it

think it's going to be the same as it looks like in six months from now. And I

looks like in six months from now. And I don't know if it's necessarily going to

don't know if it's necessarily going to be better six months from now than it is

be better six months from now than it is three months from now, but I think

three months from now, but I think around 18 months out, we're going to

around 18 months out, we're going to look back and go like, "Wow.

look back and go like, "Wow. What? What is that going on? It's nuts."

What? What is that going on? It's nuts." >> Wait a second. Hold on for hold on for a

>> Wait a second. Hold on for hold on for a second.

>> Emma, welcome to the program. >> Hey,

>> Hey, >> Matt.

>> Matt. Fun hack.

Fun hack. >> What is up everyone?

>> What is up everyone? >> Fun hack.

>> Fun hack. >> No me key.

>> No me key. >> You did it.

>> You did it. >> Fun hat.

>> Fun hat. >> Let's go Brandon.

>> Let's go Brandon. >> Let's go Brandon.

>> Let's go Brandon. >> Fun half.

>> Bradley. You want to say hello? Uh, sorry to disappoint everyone. I'm just a

sorry to disappoint everyone. I'm just a random guy.

random guy. >> It's all the boys today.

>> It's all the boys today. >> Fundamentally false.

>> Fundamentally false. >> No, I'm sorry. Women.

>> No, I'm sorry. Women. >> Stop talking for a second and let me

>> Stop talking for a second and let me finish.

finish. >> Where is this coming from, dude?

>> Where is this coming from, dude? >> But dude, uh, you want to smoke this um,

>> But dude, uh, you want to smoke this um, seven? Yes.

>> Hi, this is me. >> Is this me?

>> Is this me? >> Yes.

>> Yes. [music]

[music] >> Is this me?

>> Is this me? >> Is it me?

>> Is it me? >> It is you.

>> Is this me? Hello. It's me. >> I think it is you. Who is you?

>> I think it is you. Who is you? [music]

[music] >> No sound. Every single freaking day.

>> No sound. Every single freaking day. What's on your mind? Sport.

What's on your mind? Sport. >> We can discuss free markets and we can

>> We can discuss free markets and we can discuss capitalism. [music]

discuss capitalism. [music] Oh god,

Oh god, >> I'm going to go

>> I'm going to go >> libertarians. They're so stupid though.

>> libertarians. They're so stupid though. Common sense says, "Of course."

Common sense says, "Of course." >> Gobbled

>> Gobbled >> We nailed it.

>> We nailed it. >> So what's 79 + 21? [music]

>> So what's 79 + 21? [music] >> Challenge M.

>> Challenge M. >> I'm positively quivering.

>> I'm positively quivering. >> I believe 96. I want to say 8572108501

38 91 >> $3,400 $1,900

>> $3,400 $1,900 543 [music]

543 [music] trillion sold. It's a zero sum game.

trillion sold. It's a zero sum game. Actually, you're making me think less of

Actually, you're making me think less of >> But but let me say this poop. [laughter]

>> But but let me say this poop. [laughter] >> You call it satire. Zim goes satire.

>> You call it satire. Zim goes satire. >> On top of it all,

>> On top of it all, >> my favorite part about you is just like

>> my favorite part about you is just like every day, all day, like everything you

every day, all day, like everything you do.

do. >> Without a doubt. Hey, buddy. [music] We

>> Without a doubt. Hey, buddy. [music] We see you.

>> it's just the week being weeded out, obviously.

obviously. >> Yeah. Sun's out, guns out.

>> Yeah. Sun's out, guns out. >> [music]

>> [music] >> I I I don't know.

>> I I I don't know. >> But you should know.

>> But you should know. >> People just don't like to entertain

>> People just don't like to entertain ideas anymore.

ideas anymore. >> I have a question. Who cares?

>> I have a question. Who cares? [music]

[music] >> Our chat is enabled.

>> Our chat is enabled. >> I love it.

>> I love it. >> I do love that. [music]

>> I do love that. [music] >> Um, got to jump. You got to be quick. I

>> Um, got to jump. You got to be quick. I got to jump.

got to jump. >> I'm losing it, bro.

>> I'm losing it, bro. >> 2:00. [music] We're already late. And

>> 2:00. [music] We're already late. And the guy's being a dick, so screw him. Um

the guy's being a dick, so screw him. Um um sent to a goologous. Like what is

um sent to a goologous. Like what is wrong with you?

wrong with you? >> Love you. Bye.

>> Love you. Bye. >> Love you. Bye-bye.

We are back. Sam Cedar on the Majority Report. Emma Viglin out today.

Report. Emma Viglin out today. We'll take your phone calls in a bit.

We'll take your phone calls in a bit. In a bit.

In a bit. Uh crusty gnome idea for fun best of fun

Uh crusty gnome idea for fun best of fun half anytime PBD brought out the map of

half anytime PBD brought out the map of consciousness or Vinnie screaming send

consciousness or Vinnie screaming send us an email.

us an email. >> Oh I mean the map of consciousness will

>> Oh I mean the map of consciousness will be there.

be there. >> It's already in there actually. I put it

>> It's already in there actually. I put it in there.

in there. >> Um Alex B. Yes. This is actually a good

>> Um Alex B. Yes. This is actually a good point. Did you hear the continuing

point. Did you hear the continuing resolution also bans full spectrum

resolution also bans full spectrum sebade and say maximum point4 milligrams

sebade and say maximum point4 milligrams per container?

per container? Uh Ran Paul tried to get this out. There

Uh Ran Paul tried to get this out. There was a big fight um amongst the Kentucky

was a big fight um amongst the Kentucky senators. McConnell uh put this in and

senators. McConnell uh put this in and um uh Ran Paul tried to get it out. It's

um uh Ran Paul tried to get it out. It's not going to go into effect until 2027,

not going to go into effect until 2027, but um it is an issue. There was a

but um it is an issue. There was a couple of things in this, you know,

couple of things in this, you know, continuing resolution that um uh and

continuing resolution that um uh and that being one of them uh that they went

that being one of them uh that they went after hemp.

after hemp. Why? Because

alcohol consumption is down >> and whiskey Kentucky. Yes. and that

>> and whiskey Kentucky. Yes. and that McConnell was was doing this for uh

McConnell was was doing this for uh whiskey and anecdotally

whiskey and anecdotally >> and I cannot remember

>> and I cannot remember >> I cannot [laughter]

>> I cannot [laughter] I cannot remember who the other uh

I cannot remember who the other uh senator it was that paired up with

senator it was that paired up with McConnell but I bet they come from a

McConnell but I bet they come from a state where there is a big beer brewer

state where there is a big beer brewer or somebody like that. So I think it is

or somebody like that. So I think it is because I mean let's be honest folks um

because I mean let's be honest folks um 0.1

0.1 milligrams is that what it is? Yeah. 0.1

milligrams is that what it is? Yeah. 0.1 milligrams.

milligrams. That's the stuff like guys like me, you

That's the stuff like guys like me, you know, that's what we take to have fun

know, that's what we take to have fun cuz

cuz and.5 when I'm feeling like it's a

and.5 when I'm feeling like it's a weekend, maybe the first day of the

weekend, maybe the first day of the weekend, [laughter]

weekend, [laughter] but if there's anything else like you

but if there's anything else like you know, if it gets any stronger, then I'm

know, if it gets any stronger, then I'm in trouble. But the point is like the it

in trouble. But the point is like the it it is for your average person.

it is for your average person. Um, that's not very much, but it's just

Um, that's not very much, but it's just enough to be able like on a week night,

enough to be able like on a week night, I think. Like, okay, it's like the

I think. Like, okay, it's like the equivalent of having, you know, two

equivalent of having, you know, two glasses of wine.

glasses of wine. And the problem is is that liquor

And the problem is is that liquor consumption is way down. Problem is, for

consumption is way down. Problem is, for them, liquor consumption is way down.

them, liquor consumption is way down. So, I have a feeling that's what it is.

So, I have a feeling that's what it is. It may be revisited. We've got a year,

but um >> what are the odds uh McConnell knows he

>> what are the odds uh McConnell knows he did that [laughter]

>> knows that he put in that THC ban? >> I mean, it's quite possible that he has

>> I mean, it's quite possible that he has absolutely no idea.

Supposedly, supposedly I read a piece that said like McConnell wants this as

that said like McConnell wants this as part of his agricultural uh legislation

part of his agricultural uh legislation legacy. [laughter]

All right. Uh let's get into this. Here is uh Bernie Sanders. Yesterday,

is uh Bernie Sanders. Yesterday, in the

in the attempt to justify their caving,

attempt to justify their caving, six of the eight

six of the eight Democrats in the Senate who vote voted

Democrats in the Senate who vote voted to uh cave at the height height of their

to uh cave at the height height of their leverage at the height of their

leverage at the height of their leverage. Understand?

I don't know what donors it is that they needed to um uh help. I don't know if

needed to um uh help. I don't know if they were doing solids for other uh

they were doing solids for other uh Democratic senators who wanted to cave,

Democratic senators who wanted to cave, but it was at the height of the

but it was at the height of the leverage. In other words, where the

leverage. In other words, where the leverage was at its height.

I don't know how to articulate that anymore. Like this was not just a cave.

anymore. Like this was not just a cave. It was an epic cave. It in fact, it's

It was an epic cave. It in fact, it's not a cave because a cave implies like

not a cave because a cave implies like the weight of something just became too

the weight of something just became too much and it and it it collapsed. This

much and it and it it collapsed. This was literally like um going into a cave

was literally like um going into a cave that is pretty sturdy and then blowing

that is pretty sturdy and then blowing it up

it up because the there was never a moment

because the there was never a moment in the course of the shutdown where

in the course of the shutdown where Democrats were in a better position.

Democrats were in a better position. Donald Trump had his lowest approval

Donald Trump had his lowest approval rating.

rating. Not not of the month, not of the year,

Not not of the month, not of the year, not of the term. His lowest approval

not of the term. His lowest approval rating.

rating. Republicans blamed for the shutdown.

>> Sort of like punting in the red zone for our football fans.

our football fans. >> Yes. You're at the 20 yard line and

>> Yes. You're at the 20 yard line and you're like, should we take a field

you're like, should we take a field goal? No, actually, let's punt.

goal? No, actually, let's punt. [laughter]

>> And it's first down. >> They'll have the

>> They'll have the they'll have really really bad um uh uh

they'll have really really bad um uh uh field position, unless of course we punt

field position, unless of course we punt it into the end zone, in which case

it into the end zone, in which case they'll actually be a yard ahead of us

they'll actually be a yard ahead of us where we are now. Here's Bernie Sanders

where we are now. Here's Bernie Sanders um addressing Angus King's attempt to

um addressing Angus King's attempt to argue yesterday that

argue yesterday that um

um the the two points of the shutdown were

the the two points of the shutdown were to get the ACA ex subsidy extensions and

to get the ACA ex subsidy extensions and to um uh deal with Donald Trump to uh

to um uh deal with Donald Trump to uh inhibit his power. And uh he said we

inhibit his power. And uh he said we didn't do it either.

didn't do it either. Your fellow [snorts] independent from

Your fellow [snorts] independent from New England, uh, Senator Angus King, was

New England, uh, Senator Angus King, was asked this morning to respond to to your

asked this morning to respond to to your criticisms of the Democrats who voted

criticisms of the Democrats who voted yes last night. He said, his response

yes last night. He said, his response was, "What's your strategy, man?" And

was, "What's your strategy, man?" And quote, "Standing up to Donald Trump

quote, "Standing up to Donald Trump didn't work."

didn't work." >> Well, I think maybe Angus didn't notice

>> Well, I think maybe Angus didn't notice the elections on Tuesday. I thought that

the elections on Tuesday. I thought that they worked pretty well. Uh maybe Angus

they worked pretty well. Uh maybe Angus is not noticing the polling which shows

is not noticing the polling which shows that correctly people understand that

that correctly people understand that Republicans control the White House, the

Republicans control the White House, the Senate and the House. They are holding

Senate and the House. They are holding Republicans accountable and you got to

Republicans accountable and you got to stand firm. This is tough stuff and

stand firm. This is tough stuff and Angus is right. A lot of people are

Angus is right. A lot of people are hurting. Nobody feels good about this.

hurting. Nobody feels good about this. Nobody feels good about federal

Nobody feels good about federal employees not getting a paycheck. But we

employees not getting a paycheck. But we are winning in my view. I think the

are winning in my view. I think the Republicans are on the defensive and in

Republicans are on the defensive and in my view it was the vote uh that Angus

my view it was the vote uh that Angus cast was the wrong vote.

cast was the wrong vote. >> All right. Okay.

There's no other a like what does standing up to Donald Trump working look

standing up to Donald Trump working look like if it doesn't look like the biggest

like if it doesn't look like the biggest Democratic win you could have possibly

Democratic win you could have possibly had last Tuesday? The biggest. It

had last Tuesday? The biggest. It couldn't have been better.

couldn't have been better. Nobody can point to a single race that

Nobody can point to a single race that the Democrats lost that they uh that

the Democrats lost that they uh that they should have won.

they should have won. Nobody can even point to a single race

Nobody can even point to a single race that the Republicans

that the Republicans were sort of favored and won.

were sort of favored and won. The polling's all on the side.

The polling's all on the side. The question is why did they do it? I

The question is why did they do it? I have an idea. But here's uh uh Bernie

have an idea. But here's uh uh Bernie Sanders on Brian Tyler Cohen. Even if by

Sanders on Brian Tyler Cohen. Even if by some miracle you got 60 votes, where do

some miracle you got 60 votes, where do you think that that amendment would go?

you think that that amendment would go? >> Right.

>> Right. >> Speaker Johnson has made it very clear

>> Speaker Johnson has made it very clear that he's not going to entertain it.

that he's not going to entertain it. Trump would never cite it. So it is an

Trump would never cite it. So it is an empty gesture and that bothers me. It

empty gesture and that bothers me. It bothers me that people want to raise

bothers me that people want to raise false hopes. Oh, we're going to bring

false hopes. Oh, we're going to bring forth an an amendment. That amendment is

forth an an amendment. That amendment is ain't going to go any place. Period. End

ain't going to go any place. Period. End of discussion.

of discussion. >> Just make it clear. He's talking about

>> Just make it clear. He's talking about the concession that was extracted from

the concession that was extracted from Republicans, a vote in the Senate on

Republicans, a vote in the Senate on maintaining the ACA subsidies.

maintaining the ACA subsidies. A, it's it's destined to lose in the

A, it's it's destined to lose in the Senate. B, even if it won in the Senate,

Senate. B, even if it won in the Senate, it is not going to be voted on in the

it is not going to be voted on in the House. And as we know from those little

House. And as we know from those little cartoons uh when we were kids,

cartoons uh when we were kids, it's got to be passed both in the House

it's got to be passed both in the House and the Senate to actually get um signed

and the Senate to actually get um signed into law, assuming that Donald Trump

into law, assuming that Donald Trump would sign it into law, which of course

would sign it into law, which of course he's not going to.

he's not going to. Why did they do this? I think uh the

Why did they do this? I think uh the biggest reason is if you look at these

biggest reason is if you look at these Senate Democrats

Senate Democrats that voted for this, they either did it

that voted for this, they either did it on behalf of other people or themselves.

on behalf of other people or themselves. This was to protect the filibuster

This was to protect the filibuster because the Republicans were had two

because the Republicans were had two choices.

choices. They were either a, this is if the

They were either a, this is if the Democrats held out, they would either a

Democrats held out, they would either a capitulate to the Democrats, extend the

capitulate to the Democrats, extend the Obamacare subsidies, which they probably

Obamacare subsidies, which they probably wanted to do, but they

wanted to do, but they these people are so deranged

these people are so deranged that even just the idea that they would

that even just the idea that they would lose to the Democrats

is enough to say that even if the the losing to Democrats means that we

losing to Democrats means that we actually help our constituents and help

actually help our constituents and help us electorally because the constituents

us electorally because the constituents are not as upset. They still won't do

are not as upset. They still won't do that because this is an authoritarian

that because this is an authoritarian regime and you can never ever let your

regime and you can never ever let your opponents win anything, get any type of

opponents win anything, get any type of win. We saw it.

win. We saw it. We saw when Trump said, "Don't let Biden

We saw when Trump said, "Don't let Biden get a win. Don't do anything

get a win. Don't do anything bipartisan."

bipartisan." They understand this dynamic.

They understand this dynamic. So, if they weren't going to concede to

So, if they weren't going to concede to the Democrats, they had one other option

the Democrats, they had one other option where they literally could just pass

where they literally could just pass whatever they wanted to. They've done

whatever they wanted to. They've done this on three occasions already just

this on three occasions already just this year, and that is suspend or get

this year, and that is suspend or get rid of the filibuster. Filibuster is not

rid of the filibuster. Filibuster is not a law. The 60 vote threshold is not a

a law. The 60 vote threshold is not a law. It is a tradition in the Senate

law. It is a tradition in the Senate essentially.

essentially. and they could easily just say we're

and they could easily just say we're going to have a vote to change the

going to have a vote to change the rules. The parliamentarian says uh you

rules. The parliamentarian says uh you can't really do that. Uh and then um the

can't really do that. Uh and then um the uh John Thun says, "Hey, remember when

uh John Thun says, "Hey, remember when we changed the way that we were going to

we changed the way that we were going to account for the budget in the big

account for the budget in the big beautiful bill

beautiful bill forever, we have always said if

forever, we have always said if something's going to expire,

something's going to expire, let's say these tax cuts are going to

let's say these tax cuts are going to expire, when we account for the cost of

expire, when we account for the cost of the bill that follows it,

we um use an accounting method where basically say, "Okay, the tax cuts are

basically say, "Okay, the tax cuts are going to expire. We're going to assume

going to expire. We're going to assume they're going to go back up to where

they're going to go back up to where they were because the tax cuts expire,

they were because the tax cuts expire, and if we cut from there, that's going

and if we cut from there, that's going to cost the government something." They

to cost the government something." They unilaterally decided

unilaterally decided that they were going to change the way

that they were going to change the way they were accounting. So, the big

they were accounting. So, the big beautiful bill looked like it cost less.

beautiful bill looked like it cost less. Now, everybody knows it didn't, but it

Now, everybody knows it didn't, but it on paper it looked like it cost less.

on paper it looked like it cost less. That was one time they got rid of the

That was one time they got rid of the filibuster. The other time was when they

filibuster. The other time was when they wanted to override California uh

wanted to override California uh environmental standards. They overrode

environmental standards. They overrode the filibuster. They could have done it

the filibuster. They could have done it this time

this time and and Trump would have forced them to

and and Trump would have forced them to do it eventually, the Republicans, but

do it eventually, the Republicans, but the Democrats still they are so

the Democrats still they are so institutionally blind. They are such

institutionally blind. They are such institutionalists. They are so um

institutionalists. They are so um determined to get back to normaly even

determined to get back to normaly even though it is quite clear there's another

though it is quite clear there's another party

party that is not normal

that is not normal that is fullon authoritarian at this

that is fullon authoritarian at this point.

point. They wanted to protect the filibuster.

They wanted to protect the filibuster. They wanted to protect the filibuster

They wanted to protect the filibuster more than those Republicans because if

more than those Republicans because if the Republicans wanted to make it easy

the Republicans wanted to make it easy for the Democrats to cave, they could

for the Democrats to cave, they could have said, "Okay, we'll do half

have said, "Okay, we'll do half subsidies. we'll do subsidies for a

subsidies. we'll do subsidies for a year. We'll do subsidies for six months.

year. We'll do subsidies for six months. But they didn't because they knew

But they didn't because they knew Democrats are going to cave.

And why is it so important to people like Chuck Schumer,

Katherine Masto Cortez, Jackie Rosen,

Jackie Rosen, Tim Kaine?

Tim Kaine? Why is it so important to them to have

Why is it so important to them to have the filibuster?

the filibuster? so that they can vote

so that they can vote for policies that their voters want and

for policies that their voters want and know that it won't go into effect

know that it won't go into effect because they don't have 60 votes because

because they don't have 60 votes because they can't get the extra 10 votes they

they can't get the extra 10 votes they need or five votes they need from the

need or five votes they need from the Republicans. This is down the road.

Republicans. This is down the road. That's it. Like this is

you want to talk about something that is really about like a class war. This is

really about like a class war. This is what it is

what it is because

because they're not even the for Jean Shaheen.

they're not even the for Jean Shaheen. She may never even have she's never

She may never even have she's never going to take this vote. She's going to

going to take this vote. She's going to be uh she's going to retire before

be uh she's going to retire before Democrats could ever take uh control of

Democrats could ever take uh control of the Senate. [snorts]

But this is they the the US Senate was set up to protect the interests of

set up to protect the interests of money. I'm talking in our constitution.

money. I'm talking in our constitution. When this country started, you couldn't

When this country started, you couldn't even vote directly for the senators.

even vote directly for the senators. >> Should we should have called the House

>> Should we should have called the House of Lords because I think people

of Lords because I think people understand what it means when you call

understand what it means when you call it that.

it that. >> 100%.

And the filibuster is there to thwart

And if you look at it historically and you look at it statistically,

you look at it statistically, it thwarts progressive measures by a 5

it thwarts progressive measures by a 5 to1 margin

to1 margin because the only thing that Republicans

because the only thing that Republicans ultimately want

ultimately want proactively is tax cuts. And there's

proactively is tax cuts. And there's always a reconciliation bill which is

always a reconciliation bill which is avoids the filibuster.

And so they never have to worry about any, you know, whatever their agenda is.

any, you know, whatever their agenda is. But

But in terms of uh progressives

in terms of uh progressives or just even like mainstream Democrats,

or just even like mainstream Democrats, this allows Tim Kaine to vote for

this allows Tim Kaine to vote for whatever progressive health care measure

whatever progressive health care measure down the road he might be faced with

down the road he might be faced with having to vote for. He needs to be able

having to vote for. He needs to be able to justify it to his constituents. I

to justify it to his constituents. I voted for it,

voted for it, but it was a safe vote because you knew

but it was a safe vote because you knew it was never going to pass because it

it was never going to pass because it because of the filibuster.

I mean, the thing is is that if we got rid of the filibuster, you know what the

rid of the filibuster, you know what the Republicans would do? You know what they

Republicans would do? You know what they would pass

would pass it? Try and come up with something. They

it? Try and come up with something. They have no other agenda. They did it

have no other agenda. They did it already, which is cut taxes.

already, which is cut taxes. They did it. They already did everything

They did it. They already did everything that they wanted to do. The only the

that they wanted to do. The only the only thing would be that they would pass

only thing would be that they would pass would be some ways of ostensibly and I

would be some ways of ostensibly and I don't know how they would do this and

don't know how they would do this and they you know they're not always right

they you know they're not always right of inhibiting the vote in 2026

of inhibiting the vote in 2026 but states are doing that anyways.

but states are doing that anyways. The filibuster is a tool by the re

The filibuster is a tool by the re Democratic establishment more than any

Democratic establishment more than any other

other to uh thwart progressive uh change and

to uh thwart progressive uh change and and blame it on somebody else.

and blame it on somebody else. And that's why they voted this way

And that's why they voted this way because they didn't want Donald Trump to

because they didn't want Donald Trump to force the Republicans to get rid of the

force the Republicans to get rid of the filibuster.

Choco Chuck always chickens out. [laughter]

I think we're going to use that. >> Should have told them it was about like

>> Should have told them it was about like um taking sanctions off Iran or

um taking sanctions off Iran or something.

something. >> Exactly.

>> Exactly. >> Now, I will say the other the there, you

>> Now, I will say the other the there, you know, there there are other aspects to

know, there there are other aspects to it.

it. I think preser preservation of the

I think preser preservation of the filibuster was probably one of the

filibuster was probably one of the primary reasons uh was the primary

primary reasons uh was the primary reason why the Democrats uh caved in the

reason why the Democrats uh caved in the way they did. But I think as a second

way they did. But I think as a second order issue, what was happening with a

order issue, what was happening with a airlines was going to put enough

airlines was going to put enough pressure on the Republicans where they

pressure on the Republicans where they would get rid of the filibuster to just

would get rid of the filibuster to just pass it if the Democrats didn't cave.

pass it if the Democrats didn't cave. Here is Donald Trump.

Here is Donald Trump. I mean, imagine, first of all, being an

I mean, imagine, first of all, being an air traffic controller is probably one

air traffic controller is probably one of the most stressful jobs that exists.

of the most stressful jobs that exists. You're constantly like, uh, if I

You're constantly like, uh, if I up, I'm going to kill a lot of people.

up, I'm going to kill a lot of people. Um, it's like performing surgery on

Um, it's like performing surgery on 200 people every hour simultaneously,

200 people every hour simultaneously, [laughter]

[laughter] right? Like if I mess up here, you know,

right? Like if I mess up here, you know, you do one surgery, one potentially

you do one surgery, one potentially life-threatening surgery a day and I

life-threatening surgery a day and I would imagine that's pretty exhausting.

would imagine that's pretty exhausting. But if you've got to do that like on 200

But if you've got to do that like on 200 people simultaneously and then five

people simultaneously and then five minutes later you got to do it again.

minutes later you got to do it again. That would be uh

That would be uh >> also I'm driving Uber shifts after work

>> also I'm driving Uber shifts after work >> and you're Yes. You're completely

>> and you're Yes. You're completely screwed over. Now imagine uh you're

screwed over. Now imagine uh you're understaffed so it's even tougher.

understaffed so it's even tougher. There's one nurse running from every uh

There's one nurse running from every uh you know every uh bed possible running

you know every uh bed possible running around essentially. And now imagine

around essentially. And now imagine you're not getting paid.

you're not getting paid. So you're at work, you're in a highly

So you're at work, you're in a highly stressful job. You are completely

stressful job. You are completely understaffed

understaffed and you have in the back of your head of

and you have in the back of your head of like, uh, is my landlord going to kick

like, uh, is my landlord going to kick me out? Uh, oh, how am I going to feed

me out? Uh, oh, how am I going to feed my kids? Uh,

my kids? Uh, and, uh, here's Donald Trump. Like

and, uh, here's Donald Trump. Like literally

literally within the 24 hours that the Democrats

within the 24 hours that the Democrats caved, SNAP benefits were forced to be

caved, SNAP benefits were forced to be resumed by a court and Donald Trump

resumed by a court and Donald Trump handed them a massive gift

handed them a massive gift uh

uh which was crapping all over air traffic

which was crapping all over air traffic controllers.

controllers. This is number uh one

group number one. >> What I what I was not happy when I saw

>> What I what I was not happy when I saw all these people. Oh, we have to look.

all these people. Oh, we have to look. Life is not so easy for anybody. Our

Life is not so easy for anybody. Our country's never done better. We should

country's never done better. We should not have had people leaving their jobs.

not have had people leaving their jobs. And what I basically did is say the ones

And what I basically did is say the ones that stayed of which were there were a

that stayed of which were there were a lot of them. I'm sending them a $10,000

lot of them. I'm sending them a $10,000 bonus.

bonus. >> Where's that money coming from?

>> Where's that money coming from? >> I don't know. I'll get it from

>> I don't know. I'll get it from someplace. I'll get it from I always get

someplace. I'll get it from I always get the money from someplace regardless. It

the money from someplace regardless. It doesn't matter. We did a lot of I do a

doesn't matter. We did a lot of I do a lot of bonuses for people because it's

lot of bonuses for people because it's really something that it's like the

really something that it's like the American way when you think about it.

American way when you think about it. So, here's somebody that goes and shows

So, here's somebody that goes and shows up every single day. Some of them showed

up every single day. Some of them showed up early because they knew there was

up early because they knew there was going to be a problem. Those people

going to be a problem. Those people should be rewarded. Others we couldn't

should be rewarded. Others we couldn't we we can't make it. We can't, you know,

we we can't make it. We can't, you know, a lot of the people that showed up also

a lot of the people that showed up also had a second job. They took a second job

had a second job. They took a second job temporarily, but they all know the

temporarily, but they all know the money's coming and the money was coming.

money's coming and the money was coming. So, I want to reward the people that

So, I want to reward the people that showed up without a lot of nonsense,

showed up without a lot of nonsense, with a lot without a lot of talk. They

with a lot without a lot of talk. They did their job and in many cases they

did their job and in many cases they worked longer hours to get us through

worked longer hours to get us through this period.

this period. See what was saying? He's saying that um

See what was saying? He's saying that um he is crapping on all of those um

he is crapping on all of those um >> Oh, I can't feed my kids.

>> Oh, I can't feed my kids. >> I can't feed my kids. I got to go get a

>> I can't feed my kids. I got to go get a second job. I can't show up at work cuz

second job. I can't show up at work cuz I actually have to get a job that pays

I actually have to get a job that pays me money.

me money. >> I'm evicted. See, it's crazy because you

>> I'm evicted. See, it's crazy because you would think he just isn't aware of all

would think he just isn't aware of all of the turmoil, but he clearly has seen

of the turmoil, but he clearly has seen the stories that we've all seen of the

the stories that we've all seen of the air traffic controllers who are like,

air traffic controllers who are like, "Oh crap, I need to get a second job

"Oh crap, I need to get a second job this month in the gig economy in the off

this month in the gig economy in the off hours I'm using that I should be using

hours I'm using that I should be using to sleep so I can be rested."

to sleep so I can be rested." >> It's hard on everybody. Listen, I got to

>> It's hard on everybody. Listen, I got to tell you, it's hard on everybody. When

tell you, it's hard on everybody. When we were having our Great Gatsby party,

we were having our Great Gatsby party, we thought we were going to run out of

we thought we were going to run out of caviar. And I was like, "Hey, wait a

caviar. And I was like, "Hey, wait a second. We're going to run out of

second. We're going to run out of caviar." And it's just panic. We had

caviar." And it's just panic. We had widespread panic.

widespread panic. >> There were guests that were supposed to

>> There were guests that were supposed to be there, but their flights were

be there, but their flights were delayed.

delayed. >> I still haven't found real gold paint.

>> I still haven't found real gold paint. >> Do you [laughter] know how hard my life

>> Do you [laughter] know how hard my life is?

is? >> Like it

>> Like it also

also embedded in that response is, "Well,

embedded in that response is, "Well, I'll find the money. I always find the

I'll find the money. I always find the money." In other words, I break the law.

money." In other words, I break the law. I break the law all the time.

I break the law all the time. >> I'm like,

>> I'm like, >> I break the law all the time. And in

>> I break the law all the time. And in fact, what are the Democrats going to do

fact, what are the Democrats going to do about it? What are they going to do? not

about it? What are they going to do? not cave and require me to follow the law

cave and require me to follow the law when it comes to congressional

when it comes to congressional appropriations. We do have to do that.

appropriations. We do have to do that. >> You could have the Republicans in

>> You could have the Republicans in Congress pass the bonus for them instead

Congress pass the bonus for them instead of you like going around to some, I

of you like going around to some, I don't know, Bitcoin scammer that has

don't know, Bitcoin scammer that has extra cash and wants to make a PR splash

extra cash and wants to make a PR splash or something. Whatever is going to

or something. Whatever is going to happen.

happen. >> Guarantee the bonus is not delivered.

>> Guarantee the bonus is not delivered. So, it doesn't matter.

So, it doesn't matter. >> He did that interview last night, right?

>> He did that interview last night, right? >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Okay. I think he got his shot uh his

>> Okay. I think he got his shot uh his stuff yesterday or Sunday.

stuff yesterday or Sunday. >> He was looking a little bit on top of it

>> He was looking a little bit on top of it there, right? Let's play something else.

there, right? Let's play something else. Do we have another clip from there?

Do we have another clip from there? >> We got him on uh uh Obamacare.

>> We got him on uh uh Obamacare. >> Here he is on uh Yeah,

>> Here he is on uh Yeah, >> here he is on uh uh he's still on uh uh

>> here he is on uh uh he's still on uh uh what do you call it? Ingram, right?

what do you call it? Ingram, right? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> And I'm not just talking about recently.

>> And I'm not just talking about recently. I'm talking about for years they've been

I'm talking about for years they've been going up. And he said premiums will go

going up. And he said premiums will go down. and everything will be wonderful.

down. and everything will be wonderful. It's horrible health insurance at a very

It's horrible health insurance at a very high price. And what I want and probably

high price. And what I want and probably what you're alluding to is the fact that

what you're alluding to is the fact that I want instead of going to the insurance

I want instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into

companies, I want the money to go into an account for people where the people

an account for people where the people buy their own health insurance. It's so

buy their own health insurance. It's so good. Uh the insurance will be better.

good. Uh the insurance will be better. It'll cost less. Everybody's going to be

It'll cost less. Everybody's going to be happy. They're going to feel like

happy. They're going to feel like entrepreneurs. They're actually able to

entrepreneurs. They're actually able to go out and negotiate their own health

go out and negotiate their own health insurance AND THEY CAN USE

insurance AND THEY CAN USE >> OH, GOD. HE said the magic words to me.

>> OH, GOD. HE said the magic words to me. Folks, I feel so unfulfilled

Folks, I feel so unfulfilled that I have never had the opportunity to

that I have never had the opportunity to go in and negotiate uh my health care

go in and negotiate uh my health care expenses with the doctors. I'm sitting

expenses with the doctors. I'm sitting here and I'm like going, "HEY DOC, LET'S

here and I'm like going, "HEY DOC, LET'S NEGOTIATE ABOUT THIS. You say I need a

NEGOTIATE ABOUT THIS. You say I need a uh an appendicitis. I'll tell you what,

uh an appendicitis. I'll tell you what, throw in a tonsilctomy [laughter]

throw in a tonsilctomy [laughter] and we're talking.

and we're talking. Let's let's do this. Let's wrap this up.

Let's let's do this. Let's wrap this up. I bought Listen, I got right now I got

I bought Listen, I got right now I got an ingrown toenail and uh I got a um I

an ingrown toenail and uh I got a um I got a what do you call it? Um deviated

got a what do you call it? Um deviated septum. Can we do let's just do this all

septum. Can we do let's just do this all together. I'll give you the twice the

together. I'll give you the twice the amount of business. We got it done.

amount of business. We got it done. Bingo bango.

Bingo bango. >> I can't wait TO BE ENTREPRENEURIAL. AND

>> I can't wait TO BE ENTREPRENEURIAL. AND I also got my health savings account. I

I also got my health savings account. I got that and I also doing some day

got that and I also doing some day trading. I had a good day yesterday. So,

trading. I had a good day yesterday. So, you know what? Let's do that bypass.

you know what? Let's do that bypass. >> It's like Jerry McGuire of health.

>> It's like Jerry McGuire of health. Exactly.

Exactly. >> So, you get Medicaid for all and they're

>> So, you get Medicaid for all and they're just like, you know, we're going to take

just like, you know, we're going to take care of what's wrong. Boring.

care of what's wrong. Boring. >> No fun.

>> No fun. >> Negotiate.

>> Negotiate. >> Yesterday, yesterday I I went long on

>> Yesterday, yesterday I I went long on some crypto. And so [laughter] today, I

some crypto. And so [laughter] today, I I CAN AFFORD TO get that uh bypass

I CAN AFFORD TO get that uh bypass surgery that I've BEEN THINKING ABOUT.

surgery that I've BEEN THINKING ABOUT. LET'S DO THIS.

LET'S DO THIS. >> I don't even need the bypass. I just

>> I don't even need the bypass. I just like the deal.

like the deal. >> He's He's like the way that we're going

>> He's He's like the way that we're going to health savings accounts. How is that

to health savings accounts. How is that in any way going to impact the cost of

in any way going to impact the cost of private health insurance?

private health insurance? ACA uh is a

ACA uh is a the part where we subsidize private

the part where we subsidize private insurance

insurance is a horrible system.

is a horrible system. It is only slightly better than the

It is only slightly better than the horrible system that preceded it. the

horrible system that preceded it. the patient protections embedded in the ACA.

patient protections embedded in the ACA. Remember it was the ACA PPI. That was

Remember it was the ACA PPI. That was the the re actual name of the the thing,

the the re actual name of the the thing, the Affordable Care Act patient

the Affordable Care Act patient protection initiative or something.

protection initiative or something. The patient protections are good. We

The patient protections are good. We don't have lifetime caps. We don't have

don't have lifetime caps. We don't have yearly caps. We don't have recision. We

yearly caps. We don't have recision. We don't have uh you can stay on the

don't have uh you can stay on the insurance 26. There are some um

insurance 26. There are some um free things that insurance companies pay

free things that insurance companies pay for because it provides for better

for because it provides for better health outcomes. The expansion of

health outcomes. The expansion of Medicaid, good.

Medicaid, good. The cost controls,

The cost controls, the rate of increase did slow. It did

the rate of increase did slow. It did bend the cost curve as it were, but it

bend the cost curve as it were, but it still goes up

still goes up 7 8% a year. We did add

7 8% a year. We did add we did cut the number of uninsured in

we did cut the number of uninsured in this country down by three quarters

this country down by three quarters was something like 40 million people uh

was something like 40 million people uh before and now it's closer to like

before and now it's closer to like 10 or 12. Now that number is going to go

10 or 12. Now that number is going to go shoot back up.

shoot back up. But

But it's not like the Republicans have

it's not like the Republicans have another plan. They've been trying to uh

another plan. They've been trying to uh repeal uh the Affordable Care Act for

repeal uh the Affordable Care Act for over 10 years and they have no plan.

over 10 years and they have no plan. They haven't even written up a plan.

They haven't even written up a plan. >> That health savings account that's like

>> That health savings account that's like dusted off from 15 years ago.

dusted off from 15 years ago. >> It's been, you know, some people have

>> It's been, you know, some people have it. If you have if you have a high

it. If you have if you have a high deductible insurance plan, you're

deductible insurance plan, you're eligible for a health savings account,

eligible for a health savings account, which basically means like you can put

which basically means like you can put the money in there. But this is also,

the money in there. But this is also, understand,

understand, this is not terribly dissimilar from a

this is not terribly dissimilar from a 529, just a way for wealthy people to

529, just a way for wealthy people to avoid taxes.

avoid taxes. Because if you don't have enough money

Because if you don't have enough money at the end of your paycheck every week

at the end of your paycheck every week to save towards, I don't know, a house

to save towards, I don't know, a house or a car or an emergency, you don't have

or a car or an emergency, you don't have money to put into a health savings

money to put into a health savings account. Let it accumulate interest over

account. Let it accumulate interest over 20 years. I mean, this is their

20 years. I mean, this is their strategy, right? For wealthy people,

strategy, right? For wealthy people, this is what they do. If they have a

this is what they do. If they have a high deductible plan,

high deductible plan, you put it in the health savings

you put it in the health savings account. You put it in there when you're

account. You put it in there when you're like 25. You put in whatever it is, 2500

like 25. You put in whatever it is, 2500 bucks, whatever the limit is, 5,000, I

bucks, whatever the limit is, 5,000, I don't know. You put it in there. You let

don't know. You put it in there. You let it acrue. You pay for all your um health

it acrue. You pay for all your um health costs out of pocket. And then when

costs out of pocket. And then when you're like 60, you can actually get

you're like 60, you can actually get reimbursed for all those costs.

reimbursed for all those costs. In the meantime, that money has stayed

In the meantime, that money has stayed in this account tax-free savings and it

in this account tax-free savings and it has acred and acrewed and acred and

has acred and acrewed and acred and acrewed and acred and acrewed and acred.

acrewed and acred and acrewed and acred. Then you can take uh your money, pay

Then you can take uh your money, pay yourself back from that account. All

yourself back from that account. All that taxfree money is there. Then you

that taxfree money is there. Then you get on Medicare.

That's the plan. We're going to look, some people have money, some people

some people have money, some people don't have money. And the way that we're

don't have money. And the way that we're going to work it is the people who have

going to work it is the people who have money are gonna be able to get more

money are gonna be able to get more money.

money. And now I got to go.

And now I got to go. >> And then it's your fault for being

>> And then it's your fault for being bankrupt because of cancer.

>> Maybe you should have thought of that before you got cancer.

before you got cancer. >> You should have cut some better deals.

>> You should have cut some better deals. >> I mean,

>> I mean, >> be entrepreneurial.

>> be entrepreneurial. >> You got to you got to make a deal with

>> You got to you got to make a deal with cancer.

Um, >> one more quick one from the uh Ingram

>> one more quick one from the uh Ingram interview.

interview. >> Is this the magnet one? Yes. Oh my god.

>> Is this the magnet one? Yes. Oh my god. All right, let's do this.

>> Yeah. Out. But it's so President Xi was willing to do the rarer thing. That's

willing to do the rarer thing. That's magnets. Now, nobody knows what a magnet

magnets. Now, nobody knows what a magnet is. If you don't have a magnet, you

is. If you don't have a magnet, you don't make a car. You don't make a

don't make a car. You don't make a computer. You don't make uh televisions

computer. You don't make uh televisions and radios and all the other things. you

and radios and all the other things. you don't make anything. It's a

don't make anything. It's a [clears throat] 30-year effort to

[clears throat] 30-year effort to monopolize a very important thing. Now,

monopolize a very important thing. Now, within two years, we'll have magnets,

within two years, we'll have magnets, all the magnets we want, but we don't.

all the magnets we want, but we don't. Because of tariffs, I called, I said,

Because of tariffs, I called, I said, "Listen, here's the story. You're going

"Listen, here's the story. You're going to play the magnet. I'm going to play

to play the magnet. I'm going to play the tariff on you." And for national

the tariff on you." And for national security purposes, I raised the tariff

security purposes, I raised the tariff by 100% over and above what they were

by 100% over and above what they were paying, which was 55. So, he was at

paying, which was 55. So, he was at 155%. Within 10 minutes, I got a call.

155%. Within 10 minutes, I got a call. We'd like to meet and we settled it out

We'd like to meet and we settled it out and we made a wonderful deal, great deal

and we made a wonderful deal, great deal for our country out. But it's so pres

for our country out. But it's so pres >> You play magnet. I play.

>> You play magnet. I play. >> Okay.

>> Okay. Incidentally, it's not the rare earth uh

Incidentally, it's not the rare earth uh it's not the rare earth uh minerals that

it's not the rare earth uh minerals that we're concerned about. It is the

we're concerned about. It is the processing of the rare earth minerals.

processing of the rare earth minerals. We do not have the capacity to process

We do not have the capacity to process them.

them. But I call it magnets because it's

But I call it magnets because it's easier to think about.

easier to think about. >> Nobody knows what that means.

>> Nobody knows what that means. >> Nobody knows what I'm talking about. I

>> Nobody knows what I'm talking about. I say magnets around everyone in the uh

say magnets around everyone in the uh White House and they're all just like,

White House and they're all just like, "What? What are you talking about?"

"What? What are you talking about?" Because they don't know.

Because they don't know. >> Nobody's ever heard,

>> Nobody's ever heard, >> you know. I mean, we could, but it would

>> you know. I mean, we could, but it would take uh a government action to do it

take uh a government action to do it to develop our capacity, which is what

to develop our capacity, which is what China did. But we'll play tariffs

China did. But we'll play tariffs instead.

instead. >> We'll play tariffs. Incidentally, the

>> We'll play tariffs. Incidentally, the tariffs, I mean, we just spoke to uh um

tariffs, I mean, we just spoke to uh um uh Jay Willis. I think the tariffs are

uh Jay Willis. I think the tariffs are going to get struck down. And the only

going to get struck down. And the only person who's gonna make any money off of

person who's gonna make any money off of this is, and what happens if the tariffs

this is, and what happens if the tariffs are found to have been illegal, then all

are found to have been illegal, then all of these businesses

of these businesses that were charged tariffs and paid

that were charged tariffs and paid tariffs

tariffs are due to get that money back.

are due to get that money back. Many of those businesses

Many of those businesses sold that right for cash

sold that right for cash months ago,

months ago, right? So like it's basically an if

right? So like it's basically an if come.

come. I have a chit that says uh I've been

I have a chit that says uh I've been charged $100,000 for tariffs.

charged $100,000 for tariffs. I have this chit. If the Supreme Court

I have this chit. If the Supreme Court rules that those tariffs were

rules that those tariffs were taken from me illegally, the government

taken from me illegally, the government has to pay me back that $100,000. But 6

has to pay me back that $100,000. But 6 to 8 months ago, I'm like, I don't know

to 8 months ago, I'm like, I don't know if this is going to get overturned, and

if this is going to get overturned, and I need cash now to pay for these uh, you

I need cash now to pay for these uh, you know, uh, toothpicks that I imported

know, uh, toothpicks that I imported from China, and I need cash. So, some

from China, and I need cash. So, some dude comes along and says, "Hey, I'll

dude comes along and says, "Hey, I'll give you

give you $30,000 right now, cash, and you give me

$30,000 right now, cash, and you give me your that may be worth $100,000,

your that may be worth $100,000, maybe worth nothing." And so, I need the

maybe worth nothing." And so, I need the cash. So, I say, "Okay, here's 30

cash. So, I say, "Okay, here's 30 grand." Now, that dude who bought it

grand." Now, that dude who bought it from me, his name was

from me, his name was um

um Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik's son

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik's son and other son. They bought billions

and other son. They bought billions of these chits.

of these chits. And so when you see Howard Lutnik on

And so when you see Howard Lutnik on television

television super psyched that we're doing more

super psyched that we're doing more tariffs on Canada because of some ad,

tariffs on Canada because of some ad, it's because his sons

it's because his sons >> Kyle and Brandon.

>> Kyle and Brandon. >> Kyle and Brandon.

>> Kyle and Brandon. Kyle and Brandon, [laughter]

they they are going to make so much money. Howard Lutnik is going to leave

money. Howard Lutnik is going to leave this administration probably within the

this administration probably within the next year.

next year. >> Lutnik hasn't stopped smiling in like

>> Lutnik hasn't stopped smiling in like eight months. And this guy,

eight months. And this guy, he's like, he's like he's going to look

he's like, he's like he's going to look back, he's going to leave the

back, he's going to leave the administration within the next year, and

administration within the next year, and it's going to take him three or four

it's going to take him three or four months to be like, I'm past the

months to be like, I'm past the humiliation.

humiliation. Nobody, all those people who were pissed

Nobody, all those people who were pissed at me before at the country club like,

at me before at the country club like, "How can you do this?" blah blah blah.

"How can you do this?" blah blah blah. They all they don't care cuz I am so

They all they don't care cuz I am so freaking rich.

freaking rich. Like I thought I was rich before, but

Like I thought I was rich before, but now I'm really really rich.

now I'm really really rich. >> It's very kind of you to assume that he

>> It's very kind of you to assume that he feels humiliation at all.

feels humiliation at all. >> Yeah. No, I don't think he probably

>> Yeah. No, I don't think he probably does.

>> Kyle and Brandon Lutnick there. [laughter]

[laughter] >> You know what's amazing is that their

>> You know what's amazing is that their their their smiles are not even larger.

their their smiles are not even larger. [laughter]

There there is a look of like we can't look too too happy.

look too too happy. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Just keep it professional.

Just keep it professional. We are ripping off the entire country.

We are ripping off the entire country. [laughter]

[laughter] Just amazing.

[snorts] >> A lot of hard work they're doing for all

>> A lot of hard work they're doing for all that money. [laughter]

So, I need to uh readjust my nervous system.

system. Um,

let's play some uh like let's do something that's fun.

something that's fun. >> All right,

>> All right, >> we got a lot of fun.

>> we got a lot of fun. >> Okay, Mar.

>> Okay, Mar. >> Yeah, let's more anger inducing. I don't

>> Yeah, let's more anger inducing. I don't know. PBD's

know. PBD's >> PBD. Let's do some PBD,

>> folks. Uh, I am also uh 6462573920. 646257-3920

646257-3920 if you want to be part of the program.

if you want to be part of the program. It comes with a cost. You may have to be

It comes with a cost. You may have to be on the phone uh holding for 40 minutes

on the phone uh holding for 40 minutes and never get on.

and never get on. Or maybe maybe just maybe you will get

Or maybe maybe just maybe you will get on.

on. If you're conservative, you get

If you're conservative, you get fasttracked. Right.

fasttracked. Right. >> If you're a conservative, call the

>> If you're a conservative, call the special conservative hotline number.

special conservative hotline number. That is um 646

That is um 646 2573920

is the number. >> You could not have said that in a worse

>> You could not have said that in a worse way.

way. >> Hotline

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257 3,920.

Here is PBD. He's been going off. He is so worried about Mam Donnie.

So much uh danger for New York. Those landlords.

landlords. >> The landlords.

>> The landlords. >> They do act like this is the last time

>> They do act like this is the last time they're going to talk about him and good

they're going to talk about him and good luck New York. But I kind of don't

luck New York. But I kind of don't believe them.

believe them. >> No way. This guy just whatever. Like

>> No way. This guy just whatever. Like what what how many views did he get on

what what how many views did he get on this?

this? This is how he operates.

This is how he operates. F. Yeah. Half a million. He'll he'll be

F. Yeah. Half a million. He'll he'll be talking about Montani quite a bit.

talking about Montani quite a bit. He's here to value tame

it. I don't think I sent it to I'm going to I'm going to forward it to you and if

to I'm going to forward it to you and if you can go to like the 40 second mark

you can go to like the 40 second mark when I forward this to you. It's a video

when I forward this to you. It's a video of him saying he's highlighting this

of him saying he's highlighting this apartment where the owner is not taking

apartment where the owner is not taking care of the tenants, which makes sense.

care of the tenants, which makes sense. you know, there are, you know, owners

you know, there are, you know, owners that that don't take care of

that that don't take care of >> the the the tenants and the tenants have

>> the the the tenants and the tenants have the choice to leave to go to a different

the choice to leave to go to a different place. You don't have to stay there. But

place. You don't have to stay there. But watch what he says. Oh,

watch what he says. Oh, >> pause it for a second. Now, uh, now

>> pause it for a second. Now, uh, now >> what a slum lord.

>> what a slum lord. >> Yeah, you could leave for another place.

>> Yeah, you could leave for another place. Um,

Um, just the cost of moving. If you have

just the cost of moving. If you have lived in New York, the cost of moving,

lived in New York, the cost of moving, like the moment you decide, I'm going to

like the moment you decide, I'm going to leave this apartment, the next month

leave this apartment, the next month that you rent a place is going to cost

that you rent a place is going to cost you times two or three.

you times two or three. >> Do you know how many divorced couples in

>> Do you know how many divorced couples in living in New York right now can't

living in New York right now can't afford to move out of their apartment? I

afford to move out of their apartment? I >> It is expensive to move.

>> It is expensive to move. And the point is is that if you're

And the point is is that if you're living in a um a slum lord's rental

living in a um a slum lord's rental apartment,

apartment, chances are you can only afford to move

chances are you can only afford to move into a different slum lord's rental

into a different slum lord's rental apartment.

apartment. But um what what do we have an image of

But um what what do we have an image of his is the house like a like a 20,000

his is the house like a like a 20,000 square foot house? Okay, whatever. Let's

square foot house? Okay, whatever. Let's just keep going.

just keep going. >> Go to a different place. You don't have

>> Go to a different place. You don't have to stay there. But watch what he says,

to stay there. But watch what he says, which is the most powerful part, folks.

which is the most powerful part, folks. And and if you can fast forward, Rob,

And and if you can fast forward, Rob, and go to right about there. Play it

and go to right about there. Play it from right there. Watch this. Go ahead.

from right there. Watch this. Go ahead. >> The mayor's office [music] to protect

>> The mayor's office [music] to protect tenants, bringing code enforcement under

tenants, bringing code enforcement under one roof, and making sure that agencies

one roof, and making sure that agencies are working together [music] to hold bad

are working together [music] to hold bad landlords accountable. Starting on day

landlords accountable. Starting on day one, we will expand the city's special

one, we will expand the city's special enforcement [music] programs, doubling

enforcement [music] programs, doubling fines for hazardous violations and

fines for hazardous violations and tripling them for conditions that are

tripling them for conditions that are immediately dangerous. And when a really

immediately dangerous. And when a really bad landlord like this guy refuses to

bad landlord like this guy refuses to fix it, the city's going to step in,

fix it, the city's going to step in, make the repairs, and send them the

make the repairs, and send them the building. If that doesn't work, the

building. If that doesn't work, the city's taking over the building. We're

city's taking over the building. We're putting the worst landlords [music] out

putting the worst landlords [music] out of business, and we're going to

of business, and we're going to transform.

transform. >> Go back 5 seconds.

>> Go back 5 seconds. >> Go back 5 seconds. Go back right there.

>> Go back 5 seconds. Go back right there. Say it again. Listen, folks. Go ahead.

Say it again. Listen, folks. Go ahead. >> Like this guy refuses to fix it. The

>> Like this guy refuses to fix it. The city's going to step in, make the

city's going to step in, make the repairs, and send them the bill. If that

repairs, and send them the bill. If that doesn't work, the city's taking over the

doesn't work, the city's taking over the building. We're putting the worst

building. We're putting the worst landlords [music] out of business and

landlords [music] out of business and we're going to transform 311 the latest

we're going to transform 311 the latest in cutting edge technology.

in cutting edge technology. >> Yeah. [music] Ben Phillips, shout out to

>> Yeah. [music] Ben Phillips, shout out to him. He sent this clip to me and he

him. He sent this clip to me and he says, "We're going to

says, "We're going to leaked. Is this a leaked clip?"

leaked. Is this a leaked clip?" Thank good. We have a lot of reporters

Thank good. We have a lot of reporters out there who have Instagram.

out there who have Instagram. [laughter]

[laughter] >> Hey, listen. I want to thank uh you guys

>> Hey, listen. I want to thank uh you guys for finding this clip of uh PBT. It took

for finding this clip of uh PBT. It took a lot of digging.

a lot of digging. >> Uh would you have to go all the way uh

>> Uh would you have to go all the way uh to his YouTube channel?

to his YouTube channel? >> No. I had to Mission Impossible into a

>> No. I had to Mission Impossible into a studio hanging by strings, install

studio hanging by strings, install cameras and microphones. [laughter]

cameras and microphones. [laughter] Um

Um they should we let them go on and on and

they should we let them go on and on and make asses of themselves about this?

make asses of themselves about this? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> And he says we're going to take over the

>> And he says we're going to take over the building.

building. >> So it's theirs. It's the city's. So you

>> So it's theirs. It's the city's. So you mean like seize the means of production

mean like seize the means of production like communist? Wait a minute. So he's

like communist? Wait a minute. So he's saying the quiet work out loud and

saying the quiet work out loud and people voted for it.

people voted for it. >> That's right.

>> That's right. >> Bravo New York City.

>> Bravo New York City. >> But but the point is, you know what that

>> But but the point is, you know what that means?

means? >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> You know what that means? Challenge is

>> You know what that means? Challenge is he's going to need Albany to get some of

he's going to need Albany to get some of the stuff done. That's what this family

the stuff done. That's what this family was saying last night. He's going to

was saying last night. He's going to need Hokll. What's the likelihood of

need Hokll. What's the likelihood of Hokll agreeing to the 20 two two to the

Hokll agreeing to the 20 two two to the 2% increase on the on the rich?

2% increase on the on the rich? >> Very low. She's up for re-election.

>> Very low. She's up for re-election. She's up for re-election. What is Does

She's up for re-election. What is Does he need her?

he need her? >> Okay, PAUSE IT FOR A SECOND.

>> Okay, PAUSE IT FOR A SECOND. >> THE policy guy.

>> THE policy guy. >> THIS IS THE POLICY GUY COMES IN THERE.

>> THIS IS THE POLICY GUY COMES IN THERE. SHE'S up for reelection. And uh a 2% tax

SHE'S up for reelection. And uh a 2% tax on millionaires. That would be uh 50,000

on millionaires. That would be uh 50,000 people who uh

people who uh >> less than 2% of the state

>> less than 2% of the state >> who would be upset about that. And just

>> who would be upset about that. And just to remind you, since I'm uh the policy

to remind you, since I'm uh the policy guy, there are um how many uh millions

guy, there are um how many uh millions of people live in New York State? We How

of people live in New York State? We How many people do New York State? Like uh

many people do New York State? Like uh like

like 12 million? No, more.

12 million? No, more. >> But 50,000 people. Uh

>> But 50,000 people. Uh >> 19.8.

>> 19.8. >> 19 uh million. Uh but but 50,000 people.

>> 19 uh million. Uh but but 50,000 people. So she's running for re-election. That's

So she's running for re-election. That's going to be pretty tough. It is exactly

going to be pretty tough. It is exactly the opposite. It's going to be tough for

the opposite. It's going to be tough for her not to say that we're going to put a

her not to say that we're going to put a millionaire tax on when she's getting

millionaire tax on when she's getting running from uh you got Anthony Anthony

running from uh you got Anthony Anthony uh Antonio Delgado running to her left.

uh Antonio Delgado running to her left. Um but these guys are such morons.

Um but these guys are such morons. Incidentally,

Incidentally, this whole uh what Mum Donnie is doing

this whole uh what Mum Donnie is doing that he presented in that video in terms

that he presented in that video in terms of being new at least that we heard. uh

of being new at least that we heard. uh he went on to the 311 stuff, but

he went on to the 311 stuff, but he's um increasing the fines so that uh

he's um increasing the fines so that uh the slum lords actually have to take

the slum lords actually have to take care of the buildings. However,

care of the buildings. However, these guys are going to be very upset

these guys are going to be very upset here that um

here that um Barclay Center just down the road from

Barclay Center just down the road from us was all done by imminent domain.

us was all done by imminent domain. >> Home of the Nets. uh the home of the

>> Home of the Nets. uh the home of the Nets and about three or four uh big

Nets and about three or four uh big apartment build. In fact um it was also

apartment build. In fact um it was also not only that it was done in such a way

not only that it was done in such a way that was um uh was it Bruce Ratner uh

that was um uh was it Bruce Ratner uh the Ratner the developer um they bought

the Ratner the developer um they bought up a bunch of the buildings then they

up a bunch of the buildings then they basically let them just dilapitate so

basically let them just dilapitate so that the city could condemn them

that the city could condemn them >> and basically take over the whole thing.

>> and basically take over the whole thing. So the city has the ability to do that

So the city has the ability to do that and has always had the ability to do

and has always had the ability to do that

that >> and does it and usually does it on

>> and does it and usually does it on behalf of uh Capitol. Uh however,

behalf of uh Capitol. Uh however, prior to Zoram Mdani

prior to Zoram Mdani winning the mayoral mayorality in New

winning the mayoral mayorality in New York City, in fact, prior to him

York City, in fact, prior to him probably uh winning any election,

probably uh winning any election, probably even prior to him um being a

probably even prior to him um being a rapper, it's quite possible that even

rapper, it's quite possible that even prior to him being born,

prior to him being born, the unsafe buildings New York ad New

the unsafe buildings New York ad New York City administrative code uh was

York City administrative code uh was passed. New York uh city department of

passed. New York uh city department of buildings can initiate court proceedings

buildings can initiate court proceedings against unsafe buildings under the

against unsafe buildings under the provisions of the administrative code of

provisions of the administrative code of city of New York. Specifically sections

city of New York. Specifically sections 28 216.1

28 216.1 through 28 216.11

through 28 216.11 the process for unsafe building action

the process for unsafe building action involves a notice and summons.

involves a notice and summons. The department of buildings serves a

The department of buildings serves a notice survey and summons to interested

notice survey and summons to interested parties requiring them to address unsafe

parties requiring them to address unsafe condition. You remember when Zoran said,

condition. You remember when Zoran said, "First we're going to tell them you got

"First we're going to tell them you got to deal with this."

to deal with this." >> How Stalinist of him.

>> How Stalinist of him. >> Then the court order, if the owner fails

>> Then the court order, if the owner fails to correct the condition, a court may

to correct the condition, a court may issue a precept, which is an order

issue a precept, which is an order authorizing the city to perform the

authorizing the city to perform the necessary work, which is what he said

necessary work, which is what he said they would do. We'll go in and do it,

they would do. We'll go in and do it, such as sealing, demolition, or other

such as sealing, demolition, or other emergency repairs, and charge the cost

emergency repairs, and charge the cost to the property, which is exactly what

to the property, which is exactly what he said they were going to do.

he said they were going to do. >> Is this Cuban law, or is this New York?

>> Is this Cuban law, or is this New York? And the final one is lean creation.

And the final one is lean creation. Unpaid costs for emergency work become a

Unpaid costs for emergency work become a lean on the property which can

lean on the property which can eventually, in other words, uh you can't

eventually, in other words, uh you can't sell this property. Um there's a there's

sell this property. Um there's a there's a lean on it. It basically ties it up

a lean on it. It basically ties it up can lead to a foreclosure and seizure of

can lead to a foreclosure and seizure of the lean. Uh if the lean remains unpaid,

the lean. Uh if the lean remains unpaid, in other words, they can seize the

in other words, they can seize the building.

building. Chronic housing code violations. The New

Chronic housing code violations. The New York City Department of Housing

York City Department of Housing Preservation and Development enforces

Preservation and Development enforces the New York City Housing Maintenance

the New York City Housing Maintenance Code. While HPD primarily issues fines

Code. While HPD primarily issues fines and orders, emergency repairs with costs

and orders, emergency repairs with costs becoming tax leans. Chronic and severe

becoming tax leans. Chronic and severe violations can lead to more drastic

violations can lead to more drastic measures. 7A program. Under article 7A

measures. 7A program. Under article 7A of the New York State Real property uh

of the New York State Real property uh actions and proceedings law, a court may

actions and proceedings law, a court may appoint an administrator to manage a

appoint an administrator to manage a building if the conditions are dangerous

building if the conditions are dangerous to the life, health or safety of the

to the life, health or safety of the tenants and the owner's unable or

tenants and the owner's unable or unwilling to correct them. The

unwilling to correct them. The administrator uh collects rent and uses

administrator uh collects rent and uses it to make repairs and then it can go

it to make repairs and then it can go into a third party transfer program. The

into a third party transfer program. The point is is that uh these guys communist

point is is that uh these guys communist manifesto

manifesto >> are freaking out about something that

>> are freaking out about something that has already existed in New York City.

has already existed in New York City. Uhhuh. So, kind of like the rent control

Uhhuh. So, kind of like the rent control stuff.

stuff. >> What? Rent control. Freeze the rent.

>> What? Rent control. Freeze the rent. Who's done that? Oh, uh, Bill Delasio

Who's done that? Oh, uh, Bill Delasio and, uh, countless other, uh, mayors of

and, uh, countless other, uh, mayors of New York City.

New York City. They're so dumb, but

They're so dumb, but they're so dumb, but they also know that

they're so dumb, but they also know that they're

they're and they're so dumb. They may not know

and they're so dumb. They may not know that their audience is so dumb that that

that their audience is so dumb that that their audience doesn't know how dumb

their audience doesn't know how dumb they are. and they can't get feedback

they are. and they can't get feedback from the audience saying, "Hey, you're

from the audience saying, "Hey, you're dumb." Because the audience thinks

dumb." Because the audience thinks they're smart.

they're smart. >> Exactly.

>> Exactly. >> And so it's a feedback loop. Um I think

>> And so it's a feedback loop. Um I think we should play a little bit more

we should play a little bit more >> help also to be able to increase the

>> help also to be able to increase the corporate taxes. Same thing he's got to

corporate taxes. Same thing he's got to go through Albany.

go through Albany. >> Of course,

>> Of course, >> Tom. Yes.

>> Tom. Yes. >> Yes. Some of it. And I'm diving into it

>> Yes. Some of it. And I'm diving into it with Brandon so that we can really know

with Brandon so that we can really know step by step what he can and can't do.

step by step what he can and can't do. Some of the things he can do with a

Some of the things he can do with a stroke of a pen, similar to our

stroke of a pen, similar to our president's executive order. Other

president's executive order. Other things he can't. We're gonna put the

things he can't. We're gonna put the list so people can see.

list so people can see. >> We're gonna see remember that one uh

>> We're gonna see remember that one uh mayor that Skiramucci was talking about,

mayor that Skiramucci was talking about, Lindsay,

Lindsay, >> pre-1971,

>> pre-1971, you know, this this guy apparently used

you know, this this guy apparently used to be a Republican may republic,

to be a Republican may republic, >> his vague history of uh

>> his vague history of uh >> of of New York City politics.

>> of of New York City politics. >> There was if we want to do the Lena

>> There was if we want to do the Lena Khan.

Khan. >> Yes. Let's hear his Lena Khan thing. Let

>> Yes. Let's hear his Lena Khan thing. Let me find my time code.

me find my time code. >> Um,

>> Um, >> I think I'm due for my uh my by annual

>> I think I'm due for my uh my by annual visit to uh PBD.

visit to uh PBD. >> Yeah, aren't I? When did I do it last?

>> Yeah, aren't I? When did I do it last? Was that last year?

Was that last year? >> Got to check the email.

>> Got to check the email. >> Two years ago.

>> Two years ago. >> Hopefully it's not going to spam.

>> Hopefully it's not going to spam. >> I think we're Yeah, he would have you

>> I think we're Yeah, he would have you back on, right? Why not?

back on, right? Why not? >> Why not?

>> Why not? >> I see 2510 here. Here it is.

>> I see 2510 here. Here it is. Uh, so Zoran Mandani

Uh, so Zoran Mandani taps big tech antagonist

taps big tech antagonist Lena Canas co-chair mayoral transition

Lena Canas co-chair mayoral transition team. You should see his transition

team. You should see his transition team.

team. >> One second. [laughter]

>> One second. [laughter] >> What?

>> It's Lena Khan. What was he seeing? >> I have no idea. But the but the the

>> I have no idea. But the but the the thing is that the the amazing thing is

thing is that the the amazing thing is is that somehow he missed the entire

is that somehow he missed the entire Lena Khan

Lena Khan >> is no

>> is no >> is no I mean I don't think I don't know

>> is no I mean I don't think I don't know if your average voter knows but anybody

if your average voter knows but anybody who's been following politics during the

who's been following politics during the Biden uh era one of the big questions

Biden uh era one of the big questions was is Kla Harris going to keep Lena

was is Kla Harris going to keep Lena Khan

Khan >> at the risk of offending Emma I called

>> at the risk of offending Emma I called it Lena Khan her Taylor Swift.

it Lena Khan her Taylor Swift. >> Yes. [laughter]

>> Yeah. This is someone. >> But she does. Oh, yes. But she doesn't

>> But she does. Oh, yes. But she doesn't like Taylor Swift,

like Taylor Swift, >> right? That's her. Yeah, that's her

>> right? That's her. Yeah, that's her name.

name. >> Oh, her substitute.

>> Oh, her substitute. >> But they have to now act like Lena Canas

>> But they have to now act like Lena Canas is a is a known threat who they've never

is a is a known threat who they've never seen her name on paper.

seen her name on paper. >> That's right.

>> That's right. >> Po Chap's big tech antagonist.

>> Po Chap's big tech antagonist. Lena Canas, co-chair mayor. That's

Lena Canas, co-chair mayor. That's right. Transition team. Hold on. That's

right. Transition team. Hold on. That's an apostrophe s.

an apostrophe s. >> No. Eric Guy Gy got it.

>> No. Eric Guy Gy got it. >> It was Lena Khan as

>> It was Lena Khan as co-chair as as as co-chair. My god.

co-chair as as as co-chair. My god. >> And he just go back. So just listen to

>> And he just go back. So just listen to it's Lena Khan as co-chair of the

it's Lena Khan as co-chair of the transition thing and he reads it as Lena

transition thing and he reads it as Lena Kaz. [laughter]

Kaz. [laughter] >> Doran Mdani taps big tech antagonist.

>> Doran Mdani taps big tech antagonist. Lena Canaz co-chair mayoral transition

Lena Canaz co-chair mayoral transition team. You should see his transition

team. You should see his transition team. He doesn't believe in hiring men.

team. He doesn't believe in hiring men. Okay. It was Did you see this Rob Lena?

Okay. It was Did you see this Rob Lena? [laughter]

[laughter] >> Oh, wait. Andrew figures it out.

>> Oh, wait. Andrew figures it out. >> Doesn't believe in hiring men. Okay. It

>> Doesn't believe in hiring men. Okay. It was Did you see this, Rob? What

was Did you see this, Rob? What everybody was Lena Khan? What's her

everybody was Lena Khan? What's her name?

name? >> Lisa Khan. Lisa Khan. Lena.

>> Lisa Khan. Lisa Khan. Lena. >> I'm sorry. Lena Khan. Play this clip.

>> I'm sorry. Lena Khan. Play this clip. that Buddha come.

that Buddha come. >> Morning everybody. It's great to see you

>> Morning everybody. It's great to see you all. Uh want to start off by just

all. Uh want to start off by just congratulating our mayor alleani on a

congratulating our mayor alleani on a incredible victory and a just remarkable

incredible victory and a just remarkable campaign this last year. I think what we

campaign this last year. I think what we saw last night was New Yorkers not just

saw last night was New Yorkers not just electing a new mayor, but clearly

electing a new mayor, but clearly rejecting a politics where outsized

rejecting a politics where outsized corporate power and money too often end

corporate power and money too often end up dictating our politics and a clear

up dictating our politics and a clear mandate for change where New Yorkers can

mandate for change where New Yorkers can get ahead and where all workers and

get ahead and where all workers and small businesses can thrive, not just

small businesses can thrive, not just get by. I think what we saw through the

get by. I think what we saw through the campaign was an operation that showed

campaign was an operation that showed extraordinary discipline, rigor, talent.

extraordinary discipline, rigor, talent. >> They're playing a long clip of this. I

>> They're playing a long clip of this. I wonder if they're trying to work out

wonder if they're trying to work out what her name is or they're trying to

what her name is or they're trying to figure out what it is that they're

figure out what it is that they're supposed to be scared of.

supposed to be scared of. >> The vision can pause it right there.

>> The vision can pause it right there. Look at just so you know who she is.

Look at just so you know who she is. >> She's the former Federal Trade

>> She's the former Federal Trade Commission chair. Uh and she's going to

Commission chair. Uh and she's going to be serving as a co-chair on the

be serving as a co-chair on the transition team. and uh the 36-year-old

transition team. and uh the 36-year-old Democrat who brought major cases against

Democrat who brought major cases against Meta on Amazon while running the FTC

Meta on Amazon while running the FTC from 2021 to 2025 surprised some

from 2021 to 2025 surprised some onlookers on Wednesday as she appeared

onlookers on Wednesday as she appeared alongside Mamani at his first

alongside Mamani at his first post-election press conference. Tom, why

post-election press conference. Tom, why is it so important to businesses in New

is it so important to businesses in New York City? Because

York City? Because >> I I I don't understand any of this and

>> I I I don't understand any of this and the only thing I came up with there was

the only thing I came up with there was three women in the video so I assume

three women in the video so I assume he's not hiring any men. He literally

he's not hiring any men. He literally today um uh announced that he appointed

today um uh announced that he appointed his first deputy mayor uh Dean Fahhan.

his first deputy mayor uh Dean Fahhan. Um

Um [laughter]

[laughter] uh I'm sorry Dean Fahan appointed.

uh I'm sorry Dean Fahan appointed. [laughter]

It's a weird last name. Full of hand appointed.

appointed. >> Did you hear transition team? They're

>> Did you hear transition team? They're they're going to

they're going to >> Oh, right. Forced transition.

>> Oh, right. Forced transition. >> Transitioning [laughter] Zor. Let's hear

>> Transitioning [laughter] Zor. Let's hear what Tom Let's hear what Tom's take is

what Tom Let's hear what Tom's take is on this. He's the policy guy there.

on this. He's the policy guy there. >> His first post-election press

>> His first post-election press conference. Tom, why is it so important

conference. Tom, why is it so important to businesses in New York City?

to businesses in New York City? >> Because he has picked somebody who was

>> Because he has picked somebody who was picking on businesses. And by the way,

picking on businesses. And by the way, um this was a pick that in my opinion of

um this was a pick that in my opinion of everything I've read that um uh was was

everything I've read that um uh was was an Obama influence pick that was made by

an Obama influence pick that was made by Biden because she was named to the

Biden because she was named to the Federal Trade Commission. And my opinion

Federal Trade Commission. And my opinion based on what I've read is that Biden

based on what I've read is that Biden didn't really understand everything

didn't really understand everything about her and she was kind of pushed

about her and she was kind of pushed through by other people that were

through by other people that were working with Biden to get it done. And

working with Biden to get it done. And all she did, this is an Obama Obama

all she did, this is an Obama Obama pick.

pick. >> First of all, it was not incidentally

>> First of all, it was not incidentally Obama sucked on uh antitrust.

Obama sucked on uh antitrust. Um

Um I I don't think he's read anything. I

I I don't think he's read anything. I think he's not even expressing an

think he's not even expressing an opinion. He's just sort of shooting.

opinion. He's just sort of shooting. It's like it's like literally throwing

It's like it's like literally throwing darts at a wall in the dark.

darts at a wall in the dark. >> Didn't we have Lena Khan on when Obama

>> Didn't we have Lena Khan on when Obama was president? And

was president? And >> oh, the first time we had her on was in

>> oh, the first time we had her on was in 2012.

2012. >> Yeah. [laughter]

>> Yeah. [laughter] >> Uh and I think we had her on two or

>> Uh and I think we had her on two or three times uh you know through the

three times uh you know through the Obama years and uh and maybe the Trump

Obama years and uh and maybe the Trump years. And she was a professor. She

years. And she was a professor. She wrote a 2012 article titled Obama's Game

wrote a 2012 article titled Obama's Game of Chicken where she

of Chicken where she >> criticized the Obama administration to

>> criticized the Obama administration to failure to effectively address.

failure to effectively address. >> If anything, if anything in terms of who

>> If anything, if anything in terms of who influenced her pick would have been

influenced her pick would have been Elizabeth Warren or that uh folks in

Elizabeth Warren or that uh folks in that uh antitrust camp, but what happens

that uh antitrust camp, but what happens when Chad GPT does all your research?

when Chad GPT does all your research? >> It's just amazing. Like Tom, you have

>> It's just amazing. Like Tom, you have glasses. Uh tell us about this.

glasses. Uh tell us about this. [laughter]

[laughter] pushed through by other people that were

pushed through by other people that were working with Biden to get it done. And

working with Biden to get it done. And all she did for her time there was

all she did for her time there was question every merger. All mergers

question every merger. All mergers aren't bad. Sometimes mergers save jobs

aren't bad. Sometimes mergers save jobs by by creating a single stronger

by by creating a single stronger organization out of two. And she picked

organization out of two. And she picked on people. And I'm I'm not against that

on people. And I'm I'm not against that some of the things that Meadow was asked

some of the things that Meadow was asked to answer for like the um uh the the

to answer for like the um uh the the stuff they were intentionally trying to

stuff they were intentionally trying to hook young girls to to to get them to

hook young girls to to to get them to stay on and they were suffering, you

stay on and they were suffering, you know.

know. psychological effects. That's where

psychological effects. That's where government steps in to do good things

government steps in to do good things like OSHA, right? OSHA stepping in. But

like OSHA, right? OSHA stepping in. But what she was doing FTC, this was her

what she was doing FTC, this was her mandate. She was anti- capitalist. So it

mandate. She was anti- capitalist. So it wasn't just the FTC Pat trying to make

wasn't just the FTC Pat trying to make good business decisions, good decisions

good business decisions, good decisions about businesses to protect citizens and

about businesses to protect citizens and investors and things. She was actively

investors and things. She was actively anti- capitalist. And I believe that she

anti- capitalist. And I believe that she was put there by other people and that

was put there by other people and that Biden didn't really know what he put

Biden didn't really know what he put there. And now she, no surprise, the

there. And now she, no surprise, the lady picking on business is now picked

lady picking on business is now picked by Mandami to lead her transition to

by Mandami to lead her transition to lead his transition.

lead his transition. >> Yeah. One other thing to think about. I

>> Yeah. One other thing to think about. I mean, listen,

mean, listen, >> I just I it's so dumb. I can't even uh

>> I just I it's so dumb. I can't even uh she is um identified herself as a

she is um identified herself as a capitalist and uh the

capitalist and uh the the one of the the the major principles

the one of the the the major principles of antitrust

of antitrust is that it is attempting to allow more

is that it is attempting to allow more competition within uh markets and

competition within uh markets and businesses and actually allowing

businesses and actually allowing uh more entrepreneurs to flourish.

uh more entrepreneurs to flourish. Um,

Um, we're going to have, I think, uh,

we're going to have, I think, uh, tomorrow,

tomorrow, uh, Ryan Cooper.

uh, Ryan Cooper. >> Ryan Cooper is going to be on to talk

>> Ryan Cooper is going to be on to talk about the relationship between antitrust

about the relationship between antitrust and socialists. Um,

and socialists. Um, >> you want to hear Sausnik on it before we

>> you want to hear Sausnik on it before we get to

get to >> Yeah, let's let's hear secret sauce.

>> Yeah, let's let's hear secret sauce. >> He's not the policy guy, but he's uh

>> He's not the policy guy, but he's uh he's the tampon guy.

he's the tampon guy. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> And the testosterone

>> And the testosterone >> to lead her transition to lead his

>> to lead her transition to lead his transition.

transition. >> Yeah. One other thing to think about, I

>> Yeah. One other thing to think about, I mean, listen, there's two ends of the

mean, listen, there's two ends of the spectrum. She's a progressive and she's

spectrum. She's a progressive and she's very aggressive when it comes to

very aggressive when it comes to monopolies and antitrust laws, which we

monopolies and antitrust laws, which we understand. We don't want monopolies in

understand. We don't want monopolies in this in this country.

this in this country. >> Okay?

>> Okay? >> But she's also what it would appear to

>> But she's also what it would appear to be very anti- capitalist. So,

be very anti- capitalist. So, >> uh, she I think she made her name really

>> uh, she I think she made her name really advocating against Amazon. And if you

advocating against Amazon. And if you remember what happened in New York right

remember what happened in New York right before CO, you have a representative in

before CO, you have a representative in New York named uh AOC, our friends in

New York named uh AOC, our friends in New York know her, who was vocally and

New York know her, who was vocally and politically opposed to Jeff Bezos moving

politically opposed to Jeff Bezos moving a headquarters HQ2 or something.

a headquarters HQ2 or something. >> Exactly. To New York. Do you know how

>> Exactly. To New York. Do you know how much money this would have brought to

much money this would have brought to New York? This, you know how many jobs

New York? This, you know how many jobs this would have brought to New York? How

this would have brought to New York? How much more

much more >> opportunity? Thousand jobs at $150,000

>> opportunity? Thousand jobs at $150,000 average salary. You don't think New

average salary. You don't think New Yorkers want that job. You don't think

Yorkers want that job. You don't think New Yorkers who are struggling with

New Yorkers who are struggling with affordability and the wage gap and the

affordability and the wage gap and the wealth gap wanted those jobs. So, it's

wealth gap wanted those jobs. So, it's okay to be antirust and anti- monopoly.

okay to be antirust and anti- monopoly. I get it. But when you're anti-

I get it. But when you're anti- capitalist and anti- business, that's

capitalist and anti- business, that's where people have a problem with people

where people have a problem with people like this.

like this. >> Well, aside from Lena Khan and AOC being

>> Well, aside from Lena Khan and AOC being both being women, uh it's not it's not

both being women, uh it's not it's not clear that uh Lena Khan was involved in

clear that uh Lena Khan was involved in that. But even if she was, the Amazon

that. But even if she was, the Amazon thing was a scam. They never even ended

thing was a scam. They never even ended up building any of those in the sweep

up building any of those in the sweep stakes that was going around. The in

stakes that was going around. The in terms of affordability, what was

terms of affordability, what was happening is that Amazon officials were

happening is that Amazon officials were coming in and buying up all the property

coming in and buying up all the property around there from out of state, driving

around there from out of state, driving up the prices of this stuff. The jobs

up the prices of this stuff. The jobs would have never materialized. Amazon

would have never materialized. Amazon ended up, you know, since that time

ended up, you know, since that time putting in thousands of jobs in New York

putting in thousands of jobs in New York City. Anyways,

City. Anyways, >> yeah, check out this data for progress

>> yeah, check out this data for progress write up by Fitzgerald and Colin

write up by Fitzgerald and Colin McDonald. why AOC was right about HQ2 if

McDonald. why AOC was right about HQ2 if you want.

you want. >> And it would have cost the uh city and

>> And it would have cost the uh city and state $3.5 billion.

state $3.5 billion. >> It's actually like that was such a sham.

>> It's actually like that was such a sham. It was Jeff Bezos basically making

It was Jeff Bezos basically making municipalities across the country give

municipalities across the country give him intelligence about their entire

him intelligence about their entire infrastructure. He was like, "Hey, we

infrastructure. He was like, "Hey, we don't want to spend the money to figure

don't want to spend the money to figure out and send deploy all of these people

out and send deploy all of these people across the country to assess where we

across the country to assess where we should have our warehouses, where the

should have our warehouses, where the best transportation is. We need to have

best transportation is. We need to have hubs all over the country." And so we're

hubs all over the country." And so we're going to pretend like we're having a

going to pretend like we're having a competition and you're all going to put

competition and you're all going to put in uh information to us that we couldn't

in uh information to us that we couldn't get otherwise. a lot of the stuff

get otherwise. a lot of the stuff probably sensitive and we're going to

probably sensitive and we're going to get a benefit over our competitors.

get a benefit over our competitors. We're going to see which roads can

We're going to see which roads can handle these type of uh logistics, which

handle these type of uh logistics, which uh roads can handle these type of of

uh roads can handle these type of of trucks, where could we find the most

trucks, where could we find the most amount of energy capacity to deploy

amount of energy capacity to deploy electric vehicles in this area, so on

electric vehicles in this area, so on and so on and so on. Information they

and so on and so on. Information they probably still using to this day. And I

probably still using to this day. And I don't think a lot of the New Yorkers

don't think a lot of the New Yorkers still living here struggling to pay rent

still living here struggling to pay rent are thinking they would have been in

are thinking they would have been in line for the uh corporate Amazon jobs

line for the uh corporate Amazon jobs that would have been moved there

that would have been moved there hypothetically.

hypothetically. Let's go to the phones.

Let's go to the phones. You calling from a 631 area code. Who's

You calling from a 631 area code. Who's this? Where are you calling from?

this? Where are you calling from? >> Uh is this Nassau County spokesperson

>> Uh is this Nassau County spokesperson from Nassau County?

from Nassau County? >> Nassau County spokesperson from Nassau

>> Nassau County spokesperson from Nassau County. Uh welcome to the program.

County. Uh welcome to the program. Thanks for having me. Uh, first thing

Thanks for having me. Uh, first thing I'll just start off with real quick is I

I'll just start off with real quick is I know you keep saying um you couldn't

know you keep saying um you couldn't find a loss for Democrats anywhere on

find a loss for Democrats anywhere on Tuesday. Well, look no further than the

Tuesday. Well, look no further than the great state of Long Island where I think

great state of Long Island where I think Republicans shifted to the or it shifted

Republicans shifted to the or it shifted to the right I think four or six more

to the right I think four or six more points. It was if you only lived here

points. It was if you only lived here and had no internet, you would think it

and had no internet, you would think it was a red wave. That's how rough it was

was a red wave. That's how rough it was out here. But

out here. But >> but wait, but did Democrats lose seats

>> but wait, but did Democrats lose seats that they held?

>> Um, no. It only just like the county legislator just actually technically the

legislator just actually technically the legislature after the maps were like

legislature after the maps were like unjerry mandered. I think it's instead

unjerry mandered. I think it's instead of being 127, it's 118. So that's the

of being 127, it's 118. So that's the only win I saw for Democrats out here in

only win I saw for Democrats out here in Nassau County. But nothing other than

Nassau County. But nothing other than that. Nothing flipped. No, no, nothing

that. Nothing flipped. No, no, nothing flipped. But my point is is that uh

flipped. But my point is is that uh Democrats weren't supposed to win.

Democrats weren't supposed to win. Nobody expected Democrats to win there.

Nobody expected Democrats to win there. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's that's true. But um

>> Yeah. Yeah, that's that's true. But um I just, you know, talking about Donnie

I just, you know, talking about Donnie and the city and all that. Just two

and the city and all that. Just two things I want to talk about city

things I want to talk about city related. one I saw or I'm seeing like

related. one I saw or I'm seeing like it's getting more probable that Chio is

it's getting more probable that Chio is gonna possibly primary Jeff.

gonna possibly primary Jeff. >> I think wasn't that announced today?

>> I think wasn't that announced today? >> The New York Times reported it, so maybe

>> The New York Times reported it, so maybe it's not officially announced.

it's not officially announced. >> Maybe it's noticial.

>> Maybe it's noticial. >> Yeah,

>> Yeah, >> I I think it's like they're reporting

>> I I think it's like they're reporting that he's telling like allies and stuff.

that he's telling like allies and stuff. I haven't seen him announce it, but that

I haven't seen him announce it, but that will

will >> that'll be fun. Um, I saw Zoron's or

>> that'll be fun. Um, I saw Zoron's or things that like he's gonna stay out of

things that like he's gonna stay out of it, which, you know, it is what it is,

it, which, you know, it is what it is, but you know, hopefully we could get

but you know, hopefully we could get something for him. Um, and then the only

something for him. Um, and then the only other thing I want to bring up is, um, I

other thing I want to bring up is, um, I saw David Dean's American Prospects. Um

saw David Dean's American Prospects. Um he released a

he released a article today or or someone wrote for

article today or or someone wrote for the paper that um they listed six things

the paper that um they listed six things that the Zoran administration can do

that the Zoran administration can do pretty quickly that could um really show

pretty quickly that could um really show like or like do a lot of good for the

like or like do a lot of good for the city. And I thought they were just

city. And I thought they were just really interesting things. And you know

really interesting things. And you know I'm sure you guys will be know you're

I'm sure you guys will be know you're friends with him. But some of the things

friends with him. But some of the things I thought was interesting was like they

I thought was interesting was like they said um that he could do like a New York

said um that he could do like a New York City public option for some medicines

City public option for some medicines like epipens and stuff that they could

like epipens and stuff that they could sell to hospitals. I saw he could

sell to hospitals. I saw he could announce like a sort of like state of

announce like a sort of like state of emergencies to like look into like price

emergencies to like look into like price gouging and um like grocery prices and

gouging and um like grocery prices and stuff like that. And I just thought

stuff like that. And I just thought that'd be you know typically for a

that'd be you know typically for a regular old Dem Democrat. I wouldn't

regular old Dem Democrat. I wouldn't expect much, but obviously since it's

expect much, but obviously since it's Zoran, I I am excited to see if he

Zoran, I I am excited to see if he actually does, you know, however many of

actually does, you know, however many of those six things. So, that'd be a really

those six things. So, that'd be a really great start to his uh his tenure, but

great start to his uh his tenure, but >> we'll see. Yeah, I'll I'll check out

>> we'll see. Yeah, I'll I'll check out that article. Appreciate the call.

that article. Appreciate the call. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yep. Thank you.

>> Yep. Thank you. >> We'll see. Very important when Democrats

>> We'll see. Very important when Democrats win these uh type of races.

Social Democrats, Democratic Socialists, all of them when they win these type of

all of them when they win these type of races, they got to deliver.

races, they got to deliver. Got to deliver.

Got to deliver. Calling from a 603 area code. Who's

Calling from a 603 area code. Who's this? Where are you calling from? 603.

this? Where are you calling from? 603. >> Uh, is it me?

>> Uh, is it me? >> Yes, it is you.

>> Yes, it is you. >> Hi. Uh, I'm calling from New Hampshire,

>> Hi. Uh, I'm calling from New Hampshire, the great state with our two lovely

the great state with our two lovely senators.

senators. >> Yes. My understand is that uh Maggie

>> Yes. My understand is that uh Maggie Hassan's daughter is running for

Hassan's daughter is running for Congress up there and she is against the

Congress up there and she is against the deal.

deal. >> The cave.

>> The cave. >> Uh no, other way around. Shaheen's

>> Uh no, other way around. Shaheen's daughter.

daughter. >> Shaheen's daughter. Sorry.

>> Shaheen's daughter. Sorry. >> Yeah. I wanted to call to to shine a

>> Yeah. I wanted to call to to shine a light on some of the uh upcoming

light on some of the uh upcoming elections because I think some a lot of

elections because I think some a lot of people don't really know what's going on

people don't really know what's going on in the state. Um and I just wanted to

in the state. Um and I just wanted to say like so for the seat that is

say like so for the seat that is Shaheen's because she's retiring.

Shaheen's because she's retiring. Everyone's telling her to resign, but

Everyone's telling her to resign, but she's retiring anyway, and we choose to

she's retiring anyway, and we choose to be primary. We can't. Um, but Chris

be primary. We can't. Um, but Chris Papus is running for her seat, and he's

Papus is running for her seat, and he's our current representative, and he's

our current representative, and he's basically the exact same as them. Um,

basically the exact same as them. Um, you know, centrist, but already endorsed

you know, centrist, but already endorsed by Apac. Um, but running against him is

by Apac. Um, but running against him is Karishma Manzour, and she is a left-wing

Karishma Manzour, and she is a left-wing candidate. Um, I think that she should

candidate. Um, I think that she should be platformed more. Um, with regard to

be platformed more. Um, with regard to the representatives seats, for the seat

the representatives seats, for the seat that is currently Chris Papus', which is

that is currently Chris Papus', which is what Shaheen's daughter's running for,

what Shaheen's daughter's running for, so we can't let her in there. Um, I

so we can't let her in there. Um, I think Heath Howard is a great candidate.

think Heath Howard is a great candidate. Um, and then finally for governor,

Um, and then finally for governor, because we need to get rid of Kelly AOT.

because we need to get rid of Kelly AOT. Um, I would love to see John Kyper. So

Um, I would love to see John Kyper. So hopefully they those people can get a

hopefully they those people can get a better profile so we can actually elect

better profile so we can actually elect them.

them. >> Okay. And who did you say was running

>> Okay. And who did you say was running for uh that seat, the congressional

for uh that seat, the congressional seat?

seat? >> Uh Karishma Menzour.

>> Uh Karishma Menzour. >> No, she's running for the Senate seat.

>> No, she's running for the Senate seat. Who's running for the House seat?

Who's running for the House seat? >> Uh Heath Howard. Heath Howard.

>> Uh Heath Howard. Heath Howard. >> Heath Howard. Okay.

>> Heath Howard. Okay. >> Yeah. H E A T H.

>> Yeah. H E A T H. >> All right. We'll look into those folks.

>> All right. We'll look into those folks. >> All right. Great.

>> All right. Great. >> Appreciate the call.

>> Appreciate the call. >> Thank you.

We'll see. Let's do more candidates. Calling from a 203 area code. Who's

Calling from a 203 area code. Who's this? Where you calling from?

this? Where you calling from? Hello, this is John from the beautiful

Hello, this is John from the beautiful Oakland, California.

Oakland, California. Um, which Trump recently said was uh too

Um, which Trump recently said was uh too far gone to even discuss. Um, so uh

far gone to even discuss. Um, so uh there you go with that.

there you go with that. >> All right. Well, let's not discuss that.

>> All right. Well, let's not discuss that. What else you got?

What else you got? >> Yes, exactly. Um, I wanted to ask about

>> Yes, exactly. Um, I wanted to ask about I don't know if you already discussed

I don't know if you already discussed this, but um the strategy of the 10

this, but um the strategy of the 10 Democrats that uh folded. Do you think

Democrats that uh folded. Do you think that there may be

that there may be >> Wasn't it eight?

>> Wasn't it eight? >> The eight. Sorry.

>> The eight. Sorry. >> Uh I think yeah, eight, right?

>> Uh I think yeah, eight, right? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Were they accelerationists,

>> Were they accelerationists, do you think? Are they trying to

do you think? Are they trying to [laughter]

[laughter] They're just They just sold out.

They're just They just sold out. >> They're not uh you know, maybe they're

>> They're not uh you know, maybe they're on a

on a >> I think I think there's a mix of

>> I think I think there's a mix of probably uh motivations. You know, uh

probably uh motivations. You know, uh maybe Kane felt the pressure because

maybe Kane felt the pressure because he's got a lot of federal workers in

he's got a lot of federal workers in Virginia. Um ostensibly.

Virginia. Um ostensibly. Um

Um uh maybe there's something about uh

uh maybe there's something about uh Vegas and federal workers that may be

Vegas and federal workers that may be more people out there and I don't know

more people out there and I don't know Bureau of Land Management. I'm not sure.

Bureau of Land Management. I'm not sure. Uh but I think a big part of it was

Uh but I think a big part of it was again like I said earlier to avoid um uh

again like I said earlier to avoid um uh getting rid of the filibuster by the

getting rid of the filibuster by the Republicans. Um, and I think um, and

Republicans. Um, and I think um, and they were getting a lot of grief

they were getting a lot of grief probably because of uh, airline travel.

probably because of uh, airline travel. And I think some of them uh, voted that

And I think some of them uh, voted that way because they were doing a solid for

way because they were doing a solid for a friend of theirs in the Senate. And

a friend of theirs in the Senate. And so, um, you know, if you're, uh, if

so, um, you know, if you're, uh, if you're retiring as a senator,

you're retiring as a senator, my experience is is that 98% of them

my experience is is that 98% of them monetize those relationships.

monetize those relationships. And

And to allow them, you know, their fellow

to allow them, you know, their fellow senators to maintain the filibuster,

senators to maintain the filibuster, people reward that. Thanks, bud. Let me

people reward that. Thanks, bud. Let me know when you need something. Honestly,

know when you need something. Honestly, that's the way it works.

that's the way it works. Like, it's it's so hard.

Like, it's it's so hard. >> I'm sure it is.

>> I'm sure it is. >> It's so hard. I appreciate the call. Uh

>> It's so hard. I appreciate the call. Uh it is so hard I think for us to really

it is so hard I think for us to really wrap our heads around that

wrap our heads around that these people

these people will base the decisions that will impact

will base the decisions that will impact hundreds of millions of people

hundreds of millions of people on the same sort of like

on the same sort of like set of principles that you and I will

set of principles that you and I will use to determine whether we go to a

use to determine whether we go to a barbecue on the weekend.

barbecue on the weekend. I like that dude.

I like that dude. Or, you know, that was it's really sweet

Or, you know, that was it's really sweet of that guy to let me uh use his car cuz

of that guy to let me uh use his car cuz it would have been a huge hassle to go

it would have been a huge hassle to go to IKEA and have to uh you know, get

to IKEA and have to uh you know, get some type of like Uber that was big

some type of like Uber that was big enough to hold uh that chair.

enough to hold uh that chair. I I appreciate him doing a solid for me.

I I appreciate him doing a solid for me. You see this in how we mourn people like

You see this in how we mourn people like Dick Cheney and people talk about how

Dick Cheney and people talk about how like they had personal Yeah.

like they had personal Yeah. >> interactions with them. It's like not

>> interactions with them. It's like not interested.

interested. >> No. Horrible.

All right. One more uh at least one more call. Um

call. Um Russell from Bed IMS. Hey Sam, did I

Russell from Bed IMS. Hey Sam, did I scare you yesterday?

Calling from a 954 area code. Who's this? Where are you calling from?

this? Where are you calling from? >> Hey, this is um Matt from Coconut Creek,

>> Hey, this is um Matt from Coconut Creek, Florida. Not too far away from your uh

Florida. Not too far away from your uh your PBD friends.

your PBD friends. >> Matt from Coconut Creek. Um

>> Matt from Coconut Creek. Um maybe Andrew Cuomo will be a uh what do

maybe Andrew Cuomo will be a uh what do you call it?

you call it? >> A neighbor of mine.

>> A neighbor of mine. >> A neighbor of yours soon.

>> A neighbor of yours soon. >> Yeah. So, I um I called today I'm a I'm

>> Yeah. So, I um I called today I'm a I'm definitely biased on this. I'm a teacher

definitely biased on this. I'm a teacher and I am curious if you agree with me

and I am curious if you agree with me that I think there's a a hole that can

that I think there's a a hole that can be filled with um by uh progressives

be filled with um by uh progressives that want to run um for politics

that want to run um for politics with

with uh in regards to public education. I

uh in regards to public education. I think there's just so many things about

think there's just so many things about public education that everybody wants

public education that everybody wants fixed just like how you know right now e

fixed just like how you know right now e economic populism is becoming more and

economic populism is becoming more and more popular. uh amongst like just the

more popular. uh amongst like just the regular electorate, right? People who

regular electorate, right? People who don't follow this all that often. I

don't follow this all that often. I think it's just weird to me that the

think it's just weird to me that the that we rarely ever hear about uh

that we rarely ever hear about uh improvements in public education. Uh I I

improvements in public education. Uh I I don't live in New York, but I like I

don't live in New York, but I like I didn't really see that too much in like

didn't really see that too much in like Mom Donny's campaign. No. Um

Mom Donny's campaign. No. Um >> no. Uh in fact, I I asked him uh didn't

>> no. Uh in fact, I I asked him uh didn't I ask him that when he came up?

I ask him that when he came up? >> No, it's a question you gave me, but I

>> No, it's a question you gave me, but I didn't get a chance to ask a press. I

didn't get a chance to ask a press. I mean his only the only thing he spoke

mean his only the only thing he spoke about education was he did I think like

about education was he did I think like in some of his acceptance speeches

in some of his acceptance speeches talking about adding teachers uh and

talking about adding teachers uh and talk about cutting uh outside

talk about cutting uh outside consultants all which uh you know broad

consultants all which uh you know broad strokes good but there the Democratic

strokes good but there the Democratic party has been completely bereft of

party has been completely bereft of educational ideas since the failure of

educational ideas since the failure of the corporate reform movement um was

the corporate reform movement um was more or less accepted, right? Like high

more or less accepted, right? Like high stakes testing got rolled back. The

stakes testing got rolled back. The whole uh value ad uh teaching u uh

whole uh value ad uh teaching u uh measurements got rolled back. Uh the

measurements got rolled back. Uh the Rand Corporation was hired by the Gates

Rand Corporation was hired by the Gates Foundation to assess the Gates

Foundation to assess the Gates Foundation's uh 10-year long uh maybe

Foundation's uh 10-year long uh maybe 12-year long educational experiment and

12-year long educational experiment and basically said, "Yeah, no, it didn't

basically said, "Yeah, no, it didn't work. You should have listened to

work. You should have listened to educators." I mean, literally, that's

educators." I mean, literally, that's what it said. Uh meanwhile, our entire

what it said. Uh meanwhile, our entire public education system went off the

public education system went off the rails. I I think

rails. I I think I I think particularly in the wake of

I I think particularly in the wake of COVID when we still have um you know

COVID when we still have um you know people who entered into the public

people who entered into the public school system

school system would the youngest cohort would be like

would the youngest cohort would be like 11 or 10 right now in terms of COVID.

11 or 10 right now in terms of COVID. Um, and I think like everybody's been in

Um, and I think like everybody's been in this sort of like recover from COVID

this sort of like recover from COVID mode, try and just like deal with uh

mode, try and just like deal with uh kids propensity for uh absence uh that

kids propensity for uh absence uh that came out of COVID uh you know maybe

came out of COVID uh you know maybe um like uh kids who are like uh you know

um like uh kids who are like uh you know 10, 11, 12,

10, 11, 12, 13 maybe now have some like fundamental

13 maybe now have some like fundamental um issues like with like handwriting

um issues like with like handwriting maybe or sentence structure, stuff that

maybe or sentence structure, stuff that you learn in first grade and maybe a

you learn in first grade and maybe a little bit into second grade, that type

little bit into second grade, that type of thing. Um,

of thing. Um, >> yeah. And so there's no sort of like

>> yeah. And so there's no sort of like I haven't seen and I have to be honest I

I haven't seen and I have to be honest I haven't paid attention to it in the way

haven't paid attention to it in the way that I used to uh any new big education

that I used to uh any new big education ideas coming out there but I think like

ideas coming out there but I think like it's an era where people need to um

it's an era where people need to um organize strengthen uh teachers unions

organize strengthen uh teachers unions and also you know like during the era of

and also you know like during the era of that value ad teaching in high stakes

that value ad teaching in high stakes testing.

testing. I think we lost like a generation of

I think we lost like a generation of teachers who basically were like, I'm

teachers who basically were like, I'm not a robot. This doesn't make sense. I

not a robot. This doesn't make sense. I went into education, you know, like

went into education, you know, like people go into education because if

people go into education because if you're really serious about teaching,

you're really serious about teaching, you understand that it's really like it

you understand that it's really like it is student centric like the you you go

is student centric like the you you go and meet the students where they are.

and meet the students where they are. And for 20 years we had a system that

And for 20 years we had a system that basically said no you bring the students

basically said no you bring the students you know you take these around uh pegs

you know you take these around uh pegs and put it into this square hole. Uh and

and put it into this square hole. Uh and it basically took the ability of

it basically took the ability of teachers to

teachers to uh to exercise their fundamental sort of

uh to exercise their fundamental sort of strength as a teacher which is like

strength as a teacher which is like assess what a kid's needs are and

assess what a kid's needs are and address those individually. it took it

address those individually. it took it out of their hands and they had to teach

out of their hands and they had to teach to a test. And so, um, I I think there

to a test. And so, um, I I think there is an opportunity, but I think we we're

is an opportunity, but I think we we're like a cycle or two away from that.

like a cycle or two away from that. >> Yeah. I because I just like to add like

>> Yeah. I because I just like to add like I think that it's like the main thing I

I think that it's like the main thing I think for me is because capital D

think for me is because capital D Democrats are like completely unable to

Democrats are like completely unable to articulate um a a counterpoint against

articulate um a a counterpoint against like the sneakiest thing against public

like the sneakiest thing against public schools right now, which is school

schools right now, which is school choice. um they they can't because if

choice. um they they can't because if they're if you're for austerity, school

they're if you're for austerity, school choices go hard to to to counterattack.

choices go hard to to to counterattack. But progressives, I feel like have a

But progressives, I feel like have a much better way of of dealing with uh

much better way of of dealing with uh that situation.

that situation. >> That's always been the case. And I will

>> That's always been the case. And I will say that is almost like not even

say that is almost like not even specific to an educational theory. Like

specific to an educational theory. Like the argument is that public schools are

the argument is that public schools are a fundamental building block of a

a fundamental building block of a democratic society. that the first thing

democratic society. that the first thing that we did as a country to expand our

that we did as a country to expand our citizenry when we had freed slaves in

citizenry when we had freed slaves in this country was to institute a uh

this country was to institute a uh public education system.

public education system. And it is fundamental to democracy. and

And it is fundamental to democracy. and supposed school choice is nothing more

supposed school choice is nothing more than a subsidy to rich people to send

than a subsidy to rich people to send their kids to private school and an

their kids to private school and an attack on this pillar of democracy which

attack on this pillar of democracy which is public school education. It is about

is public school education. It is about not just uh putting people into jobs.

not just uh putting people into jobs. It's about creating a an informed and

It's about creating a an informed and educated citizenry. not just about

educated citizenry. not just about knowledge for knowledge sake, although

knowledge for knowledge sake, although that's hugely important, but also their

that's hugely important, but also their roles as citizens in our country. And so

roles as citizens in our country. And so when Republicans attack that, what

when Republicans attack that, what they're really attacking is democracy.

they're really attacking is democracy. You don't need to have an education or a

You don't need to have an education or a pedagogical theory uh to defend public

pedagogical theory uh to defend public education. But I think, you know, too

education. But I think, you know, too many Democrats are just, you know, uh,

many Democrats are just, you know, uh, back on their heels on all this stuff

back on their heels on all this stuff because we had 20 years of this

because we had 20 years of this corporate reform that undermined that

corporate reform that undermined that premise. And so, uh, we need more of

premise. And so, uh, we need more of that, but I appreciate the call.

that, but I appreciate the call. >> Thank you. All right. Have a good one.

>> Thank you. All right. Have a good one. >> Did you hear, uh, reportedly Kid Rock

>> Did you hear, uh, reportedly Kid Rock said he's cancing all tour dates in New

said he's cancing all tour dates in New York City because he doesn't sing for

York City because he doesn't sing for commies?

commies? I better get a refund.

I better get a refund. >> Oh my tickets. I'll tell you right now.

>> Oh my tickets. I'll tell you right now. >> I I did some rese.

>> I I did some rese. >> He had no announced dates in New York

>> He had no announced dates in New York City.

City. >> But anyway,

>> But anyway, >> wow. It's too bad there's a lot of

>> wow. It's too bad there's a lot of disappointed people.

disappointed people. >> He does have a new tour out that he's

>> He does have a new tour out that he's promoting. So, I wonder if that has

promoting. So, I wonder if that has anything to do with

anything to do with >> I I I for one am waiting for the uh

>> I I I for one am waiting for the uh million people that the New York Post

million people that the New York Post said we're going to leave the the city.

said we're going to leave the the city. >> I know

>> I know >> like today it felt like that a little

>> like today it felt like that a little bit because it was Veterans Day.

bit because it was Veterans Day. >> Have you checked apartment prices of the

>> Have you checked apartment prices of the uh

uh >> just like the sidewalks aren't that

>> just like the sidewalks aren't that crowded?

crowded? >> Yeah, I I'm that was kind of my uh I was

>> Yeah, I I'm that was kind of my uh I was kind of hedging on them leaving. That's

kind of hedging on them leaving. That's kind of the

kind of the That was my savings account, basically.

That was my savings account, basically. >> Let's Let's hope things are about to get

>> Let's Let's hope things are about to get a lot cheaper. No more lines.

a lot cheaper. No more lines. No more lines at your favorite

No more lines at your favorite restaurant.

Uh, all right. Let's just do this I got it. [laughter]

Here's Bill M. Bill Maher having uh Mrs. RFK Jr. on his program.

RFK Jr. on his program. >> [laughter]

>> [laughter] >> Right.

>> Right. >> Yes. Um it's just so embarrassing that

>> Yes. Um it's just so embarrassing that that could be one of your her titles.

that could be one of your her titles. >> Uh

>> Uh what what's her first name again?

what what's her first name again? >> Cheryl Hines.

>> Cheryl Hines. >> Cheryl Hines. Yeah. Cheryl Hines uh is

>> Cheryl Hines. Yeah. Cheryl Hines uh is sort of living

sort of living >> at one point there was a joke I once

>> at one point there was a joke I once heard about LA. Um I can't remember who

heard about LA. Um I can't remember who it was and I apologize for that. It's

it was and I apologize for that. It's very bad form. I want to maybe like

very bad form. I want to maybe like Drake Sather or it could have been I

Drake Sather or it could have been I don't know if it was I or Jake Johansson

don't know if it was I or Jake Johansson somebody somebody I can't

somebody somebody I can't >> a solid joke writer.

>> a solid joke writer. >> Yeah I can't remember and it was like um

>> Yeah I can't remember and it was like um you know when you first move out to LA

you know when you first move out to LA you really

you really you hate it and then uh something inside

you hate it and then uh something inside you dies and

you dies and I think we are now looking at Cheryl

I think we are now looking at Cheryl Hines after something inside her had

Hines after something inside her had died. um RFK

died. um RFK after he nearly escaped that barrage of

after he nearly escaped that barrage of naked uh photos that he was being forced

naked uh photos that he was being forced to look at uh from the from um

to look at uh from the from um >> Olivia Nuzi um who was completely just

>> Olivia Nuzi um who was completely just out of the blue sending him naked photos

out of the blue sending him naked photos as a way of

as a way of >> harassing her because she's also a

>> harassing her because she's also a member of the media.

member of the media. >> I'm being bullied with sex messages. Um

>> I'm being bullied with sex messages. Um and yes, uh she then basically uh moved

and yes, uh she then basically uh moved forward past that um to be able to go

forward past that um to be able to go out in public um even though her husband

out in public um even though her husband was uh basically usurping um the ability

was uh basically usurping um the ability of this country to fight uh uh public

of this country to fight uh uh public health crisis. Uh that got her a trip to

health crisis. Uh that got her a trip to Bill Maher's studio. And here uh here is

Bill Maher's studio. And here uh here is Bill Maher uh pontificating. Remember

Bill Maher uh pontificating. Remember Bill Maher still trying to justify his

Bill Maher still trying to justify his going and having a dinner with Donald

going and having a dinner with Donald Trump.

Trump. >> Again, one good thing about Trump, he

>> Again, one good thing about Trump, he really really does not like war,

really really does not like war, >> which I love that about him.

>> which I love that about him. >> I kind of do because I don't want war

>> I kind of do because I don't want war either and most of them are unnecessary.

either and most of them are unnecessary. >> Agreed. I mean, um, he took a long time

>> Agreed. I mean, um, he took a long time when I had that dinner with him talking

when I had that dinner with him talking about the pictures he sees coming from

about the pictures he sees coming from Ukraine, the stuff that doesn't get out

Ukraine, the stuff that doesn't get out on the news.

on the news. >> I'll pause it for a second.

>> I'll pause it for a second. Incidentally, I don't want you to like

Incidentally, I don't want you to like just want to make this clear.

just want to make this clear. >> Bill Maher is like is so fallen into the

>> Bill Maher is like is so fallen into the trap. Donald Trump is famous for sharing

trap. Donald Trump is famous for sharing classified information to people who

classified information to people who come to to make him feel good about

come to to make him feel good about himself.

himself. And you have to be as equally insecure

And you have to be as equally insecure to not realize that's what he's doing

to not realize that's what he's doing and think like I'm special. Uh Donald

and think like I'm special. Uh Donald Trump was telling me in particular about

Trump was telling me in particular about pictures he had seen that day. It just

pictures he had seen that day. It just so happens that he had seen the pictures

so happens that he had seen the pictures that day and was like Donald Trump is

that day and was like Donald Trump is like immediately like I got to impress

like immediately like I got to impress Bill Mer. I got to impress Bill Mer. And

Bill Mer. I got to impress Bill Mer. And Bill Maher of course thinks that he's

Bill Maher of course thinks that he's impressive. So it doesn't occur to him

impressive. So it doesn't occur to him that like Donald Trump is like so

that like Donald Trump is like so desperate to uh like make it seem I mean

desperate to uh like make it seem I mean it's just

it's just if you have a con man at the top of a a

if you have a con man at the top of a a of a hierarchy,

of a hierarchy, the people around him are necessarily

the people around him are necessarily sort of like incompetent thinkers and

sort of like incompetent thinkers and equally like incompetent like they're

equally like incompetent like they're con men themselves.

con men themselves. It reminds me of PBD as well.

It reminds me of PBD as well. >> Totally.

>> Totally. >> Totally. All you need to do is just suck

>> Totally. All you need to do is just suck up the power and that's it. And it Pete

up the power and that's it. And it Pete Hegsith for instance. I mean it's all

Hegsith for instance. I mean it's all over the administration cut

over the administration cut >> from Ukraine. Stuff that doesn't get out

>> from Ukraine. Stuff that doesn't get out on the news. It's like raw footage of

on the news. It's like raw footage of bodies in the field. Yes.

bodies in the field. Yes. >> And it you could tell it really moved

>> And it you could tell it really moved him. I wonder if it moved him to see all

him. I wonder if it moved him to see all those raw footage of the babies in Gaza.

those raw footage of the babies in Gaza. Really not so much. I wonder why that

Really not so much. I wonder why that is. There's something about the tone of

is. There's something about the tone of it. I'm looking at it and I look at the

it. I'm looking at it and I look at the pictures. There's a tone, [laughter] a

pictures. There's a tone, [laughter] a tone, a skin tone almost about the uh

tone, a skin tone almost about the uh footage from the Ukraine.

footage from the Ukraine. >> If Trump feels any different about

>> If Trump feels any different about Ukraine, it's because he feels a slight

Ukraine, it's because he feels a slight from Putin that he didn't like

from Putin that he didn't like >> wind it up for him.

>> wind it up for him. and I can I'm kind of guy who can fix

and I can I'm kind of guy who can fix this at least, you know, he [laughter]

this at least, you know, he [laughter] he's never [clears throat] not going to

he's never [clears throat] not going to be Trump. So, of course, he's like, I I

be Trump. So, of course, he's like, I I solved nine wars and you know, okay,

solved nine wars and you know, okay, even if it's half that, it's still good

even if it's half that, it's still good that we're solving them and not starting

that we're solving them and not starting them.

them. >> That that that's the thing that I find

>> That that that's the thing that I find um

um that I really like about

that I really like about um President Trump when he talks about

um President Trump when he talks about wars and talks about

wars and talks about and he [snorts] talks about um Ukraine

and he [snorts] talks about um Ukraine and Russia and he's and he will say

and Russia and he's and he will say they're they're losing

they're they're losing people on both sides and it's not just

people on both sides and it's not just >> Ukraine is losing people. It's not just

>> Ukraine is losing people. It's not just Russia is losing people. He sees like

Russia is losing people. He sees like both sid this is a loss a true loss for

both sid this is a loss a true loss for for both sides.

for both sides. >> And you can feel it from him when he

>> And you can feel it from him when he when he talks about

when he talks about >> that loss.

>> that loss. What a what an amazing insight. There

What a what an amazing insight. There are people on both sides who are dying

are people on both sides who are dying in this war.

in this war. >> And I feel it. So

>> And I feel it. So >> is this their way of just avoiding

>> is this their way of just avoiding what's going on? What what has been

what's going on? What what has been going on in Israel and Gaza?

going on in Israel and Gaza? Incidentally, like 300 Palestinians have

Incidentally, like 300 Palestinians have been killed since the ceasefire.

>> This is just a perfect conversation between two actors.

between two actors. >> Yes, [laughter]

>> Yes, [laughter] it is. It is.

it is. It is. >> I like that about him. Me too. half inch

>> I like that about him. Me too. half inch deep. [laughter] Not even

deep. [laughter] Not even not even like it's so it's so shallow

not even like it's so it's so shallow that you can almost like not get wet.

that you can almost like not get wet. >> But they have a mission.

>> But they have a mission. >> Was it was it was the if a pool was this

>> Was it was it was the if a pool was this shallow you would get in it and they're

shallow you would get in it and they're like I'm not even wet. Like it's I'm

like I'm not even wet. Like it's I'm literally can actually like I'm like

literally can actually like I'm like hydroplaning.

hydroplaning. [laughter]

[laughter] >> I mean they were talking for two and a

>> I mean they were talking for two and a half hours.

half hours. >> Yeah. They go into another part where

>> Yeah. They go into another part where she was like,

she was like, >> "Put up uh Kyle Kolinsk's uh tweet

>> "Put up uh Kyle Kolinsk's uh tweet because just as a reminder,

because just as a reminder, we have killed almost uh 80 people now

we have killed almost uh 80 people now in the Pacific and the Caribbean uh uh

in the Pacific and the Caribbean uh uh sea

Kyle had a good point. Trump has bombed ships from Trinidad and Tobago,

ships from Trinidad and Tobago, Colombia, and Venezuela. He's

Colombia, and Venezuela. He's threatening regime change. He's bombed

threatening regime change. He's bombed Yemen, Somalia, Iran. He's threatened

Yemen, Somalia, Iran. He's threatened Greenland and Panama and Canada. And

Greenland and Panama and Canada. And this is only in his second term.

I hate what Look at all the time codes for this. People giving up

for this. People giving up so much their life.

so much their life. >> [laughter]

>> [laughter] >> Um, let's uh do run this clip.

>> Well, maybe maybe we should save this for tomorrow. Let's save the uh clip uh

for tomorrow. Let's save the uh clip uh >> no. Uh from Muhammad's sister in Do we

>> no. Uh from Muhammad's sister in Do we have that?

have that? >> Yeah, it's in the tech chat, but we

>> Yeah, it's in the tech chat, but we could also do it in the free half

could also do it in the free half tomorrow if you want.

tomorrow if you want. >> Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it tomorrow

>> Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it tomorrow at the end of the the free half of the

at the end of the the free half of the show. Um,

folks, should we take one more quick phone

should we take one more quick phone call? One more quickie.

call? One more quickie. Let's see what we got here.

Let's see what we got here. I don't know what 719-610

I don't know what 719-610 631.

631. Everybody's been hanging on 49 minutes.

Everybody's been hanging on 49 minutes. 610. Who's this? Where you calling from?

610. Who's this? Where you calling from? >> Hey, that's me.

>> Hey, that's me. >> Yes, it is you. Who is this and where

>> Yes, it is you. Who is this and where you from?

you from? >> Uh, this is Marty from uh southeast

>> Uh, this is Marty from uh southeast Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania. >> Marty from southeast Pennsylvania. What

>> Marty from southeast Pennsylvania. What is on your mind, Marty?

is on your mind, Marty? >> All right. I've been kicking an idea

>> All right. I've been kicking an idea around for I don't know, couple weeks

around for I don't know, couple weeks now. Uh,

now. Uh, uh, I was wondering if you'd mind if I,

uh, I was wondering if you'd mind if I, uh, defended the thesis.

uh, defended the thesis. >> Uh, it probably depends on what the idea

>> Uh, it probably depends on what the idea is, but go ahead. Let's

is, but go ahead. Let's >> All right.

>> All right. Well, I've been I I saw a bunch of

Well, I've been I I saw a bunch of rumblings earlier on when the DSA had

rumblings earlier on when the DSA had their big convention about how some of

their big convention about how some of them wanted to start their own party and

them wanted to start their own party and uh I don't think they're big enough for

uh I don't think they're big enough for that yet, but I do think that they're

that yet, but I do think that they're big enough to

big enough to I don't know leverage a better position

I don't know leverage a better position if they started moving towards the

if they started moving towards the Greens instead of staying as like an

Greens instead of staying as like an endorsement wing of the Democrats

endorsement wing of the Democrats where they could actually like run their

where they could actually like run their candidates.

>> Sorry. Go ahead. Matt Matt is Matt is Matt is having a meltdown right now.

Matt is having a meltdown right now. >> He's had to leave the room. He's had to

>> He's had to leave the room. He's had to leave the room.

leave the room. >> I think I think the I think the issue is

>> I think I think the I think the issue is is that um the Green Party

is that um the Green Party is is there is has the Green Party had a

is is there is has the Green Party had a particular success in southeast um

particular success in southeast um Pennsylvania?

Pennsylvania? Not necessarily, but um

Not necessarily, but um >> where whereas

that's a very good question, but uh if I when I'm looking online, I see that

when I'm looking online, I see that they've got ballot access in about half

they've got ballot access in about half the states. Um but these things kind of

the states. Um but these things kind of grow exponentially, not linearly. So,

grow exponentially, not linearly. So, you know, 24% is actually closer to 100%

you know, 24% is actually closer to 100% or 50% is actually closer to 100% than

or 50% is actually closer to 100% than like, you know,

like, you know, >> zero

>> zero >> anything. Yeah. Um,

>> anything. Yeah. Um, >> here's the problem. Here's the problem.

>> here's the problem. Here's the problem. Here's here's the problem, I think, is

Here's here's the problem, I think, is that is that um

that is that um the Green Party,

the Green Party, >> for whatever reason,

>> for whatever reason, >> has been just a mess. How many

>> has been just a mess. How many candidates do they have running in like

candidates do they have running in like first of all they shouldn't be running

first of all they shouldn't be running people for the presidency.

people for the presidency. >> It is

>> It is >> I agree. I agree.

>> I agree. I agree. >> And and and and this has been going on

>> And and and and this has been going on now for

now for >> 30 years.

>> 30 years. >> They should be focusing more on like

>> They should be focusing more on like House of Representatives if I'm being

House of Representatives if I'm being honest.

honest. >> Yes. But like that's what I think like

>> Yes. But like that's what I think like uh historically uh an organized group of

uh historically uh an organized group of left of left-wing people taking over a

left of left-wing people taking over a an otherwise more abund and party and uh

an otherwise more abund and party and uh kind of using it using that network to

kind of using it using that network to uh you know fill out a coalition.

uh you know fill out a coalition. >> I mean look I mean that's that's how

>> I mean look I mean that's that's how that's how

that's how Okay, you go. You go. It's your show.

Okay, you go. You go. It's your show. >> No, no, no. I I get I I get what you're

>> No, no, no. I I get I I get what you're saying and and I think like um but

saying and and I think like um but here's the options, right? I mean,

here's the options, right? I mean, there's three options, it seems to me.

there's three options, it seems to me. Uh one, the DSA does not get that

Uh one, the DSA does not get that involved in electoral politics at this

involved in electoral politics at this point. They continue to grow and build

point. They continue to grow and build their strength as an organization. Um

their strength as an organization. Um you know, or they pursue taking over the

you know, or they pursue taking over the Green Party, which it sounds like what

Green Party, which it sounds like what you're suggesting because there's

you're suggesting because there's already ballot access there. I don't

already ballot access there. I don't necessarily say take it over, but like

necessarily say take it over, but like be like a a very sizable minor. Like

be like a a very sizable minor. Like there's like what 86,000 people in DSA,

there's like what 86,000 people in DSA, right? Uh you total up all the other uh

right? Uh you total up all the other uh loosely affiliated political clubs in

loosely affiliated political clubs in America, you might get say 120,000

America, you might get say 120,000 people. That's about half of what the

people. That's about half of what the Green Party has right now. So you add

Green Party has right now. So you add that together, that's about a third.

that together, that's about a third. That's a that's about a third of what

That's a that's about a third of what they got. And uh I'm pretty sure that if

they got. And uh I'm pretty sure that if your chapter is the reason that the

your chapter is the reason that the Green Party has ballot access in your

Green Party has ballot access in your state, that means that you get to run

state, that means that you get to run your candidates as you see fit cuz

your candidates as you see fit cuz you're kind of the reason why they get

you're kind of the reason why they get to do it in the first place.

to do it in the first place. >> I mean, it's not inconceivable.

>> I mean, it's not inconceivable. >> I know there's a lot of cons and I not a

>> I know there's a lot of cons and I not a lot of pros. It's not inconceivable to

lot of pros. It's not inconceivable to me that um putting aside what might be

me that um putting aside what might be the actual agenda of the of the DSA,

the actual agenda of the of the DSA, just putting that aside for a moment,

just putting that aside for a moment, that taking over a Green Party in an

that taking over a Green Party in an area where uh they have ballot access

area where uh they have ballot access and actually sort of like gearing

and actually sort of like gearing towards something that has, you know,

towards something that has, you know, more to accomplish. But I just don't

more to accomplish. But I just don't think that the DSA is interested in that

think that the DSA is interested in that right now. And I think that like I mean

right now. And I think that like I mean you just saw the DSA and granted it's

you just saw the DSA and granted it's New York, but I mean presumably any

New York, but I mean presumably any place where the Green Party has any type

place where the Green Party has any type of strength, it's going to be uh fairly,

of strength, it's going to be uh fairly, you know, more progressive. We just saw

you know, more progressive. We just saw the DSA uh get one of their own elected

the DSA uh get one of their own elected mayor of New York City.

mayor of New York City. >> Yeah. And uh he voted for himself on the

>> Yeah. And uh he voted for himself on the working family ticket, which I think

working family ticket, which I think kind of

kind of >> Well, that's fusion voting.

>> Well, that's fusion voting. >> He's got

>> He's got >> that's fusion voting. I know

>> that's fusion voting. I know >> that's fusion voting, which is different

>> that's fusion voting, which is different in New York. I don't know. In

in New York. I don't know. In Pennsylvania, I think the WFP is there.

Pennsylvania, I think the WFP is there. I'm not sure they have fusion voting,

I'm not sure they have fusion voting, but that's a different thing.

but that's a different thing. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm. >> And I I'm all in favor of fusion voting.

>> And I I'm all in favor of fusion voting. I mean, I've never voted for a Democrat

I mean, I've never voted for a Democrat who is also on the WFP line. I've always

who is also on the WFP line. I've always voted for the WPF line. Uh WFP line

voted for the WPF line. Uh WFP line first. Always.

>> All right. Well, it was just some like I I was just thinking like if they could

I was just thinking like if they could get say

get say >> Well, why wouldn't you take over the

>> Well, why wouldn't you take over the Democratic party?

Democratic party? >> Like if you're talking about bigger

>> Like if you're talking about bigger because they're much bigger and much

because they're much bigger and much harder to take over and I'd rather

harder to take over and I'd rather >> I'd rather fight them on their own terms

>> I'd rather fight them on their own terms than fight them inside their own

than fight them inside their own bureaucracy. Do do you know how first of

bureaucracy. Do do you know how first of all I I have a feeling that the Green

all I I have a feeling that the Green Party bureaucracy is just as is as mired

Party bureaucracy is just as is as mired as any other bureaucracy. But in the

as any other bureaucracy. But in the efforts that it would be associated in

efforts that it would be associated in taking over a Hold on for a second. The

taking over a Hold on for a second. The efforts associated with taking over a

efforts associated with taking over a county green party

county green party >> versus a Democratic county party, I

>> versus a Democratic county party, I would imagine are exactly the same.

would imagine are exactly the same. >> Maybe. But what if you've got half of

>> Maybe. But what if you've got half of what if you've got half of their uh

what if you've got half of their uh uh I don't know their membership rather

uh I don't know their membership rather than

than >> you know what I would say what they got.

>> you know what I would say what they got. >> Try it.

>> Try it. >> I mean I switched over to the Greens in

>> I mean I switched over to the Greens in November but

November but >> and and how's that how's that going? I

>> and and how's that how's that going? I mean, I haven't ran for office, but

mean, I haven't ran for office, but >> No, but I mean, in terms of taking over

>> No, but I mean, in terms of taking over the Green Party apparatus,

the Green Party apparatus, >> I I think it would have to be more

>> I I think it would have to be more organized than just a person doing it on

organized than just a person doing it on the individual level.

the individual level. >> Well, all right. You I mean, you can do

>> Well, all right. You I mean, you can do a test.

a test. >> That's just something I wanted to kick

>> That's just something I wanted to kick around. I would like I I just kind of

around. I would like I I just kind of wanted to see what people thought about

wanted to see what people thought about it.

it. >> Well, I mean, I I this is what I would

>> Well, I mean, I I this is what I would do. go on the Discord, see if you can

do. go on the Discord, see if you can get some people and do a like do proof

get some people and do a like do proof concept.

concept. I'm serious. I'm not being I'm not being

I'm serious. I'm not being I'm not being uh catty about this. I'm saying like,

uh catty about this. I'm saying like, you know, do it and like

you know, do it and like >> cuz I think frankly you will find

>> cuz I think frankly you will find >> that if you go over to the Democratic uh

>> that if you go over to the Democratic uh uh your your Democratic county, there's

uh your your Democratic county, there's going to be just a few people there. In

going to be just a few people there. In fact, many of them are going to probably

fact, many of them are going to probably be looking to hand it off to somebody as

be looking to hand it off to somebody as opposed to the Green Party where I I

opposed to the Green Party where I I feel like um the the the absence of a

feel like um the the the absence of a stronger institution actually means that

stronger institution actually means that people are going to try and hold on to

people are going to try and hold on to uh their position within there.

uh their position within there. >> They're going to fight tooth and nail

>> They're going to fight tooth and nail for the little the scraps they got.

for the little the scraps they got. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Whereas I think the Democratic party

Whereas I think the Democratic party whereas I think the Democratic county

whereas I think the Democratic county party around you is like probably like

party around you is like probably like >> old people who are just like please let

>> old people who are just like please let somebody else come in and take this over

somebody else come in and take this over so it doesn't go away.

so it doesn't go away. >> That that's my guess and I I would

>> That that's my guess and I I would suggest you explore that and and uh and

suggest you explore that and and uh and let us know.

let us know. >> Appreciate that.

>> Appreciate that. >> I don't know my Yeah. Okay. Do you mind

>> I don't know my Yeah. Okay. Do you mind if I just say one thing first?

if I just say one thing first? >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> All right. Real quick. Uh, I also agree

>> All right. Real quick. Uh, I also agree that we shouldn't be Jill Stein

that we shouldn't be Jill Stein shouldn't be on, but I think like maybe

shouldn't be on, but I think like maybe in 2028

in 2028 absolute wish casting if they actually

absolute wish casting if they actually had like a a viable candidate that

had like a a viable candidate that could, you know, get people excited if

could, you know, get people excited if not get on the stage. Uh, really what I

not get on the stage. Uh, really what I was looking for was just something that

was looking for was just something that could get a a third party enough house

could get a a third party enough house seats that it's over the margin between

seats that it's over the margin between uh Democrats and Republicans. Yeah,

uh Democrats and Republicans. Yeah, that's not going to happen on a national

that's not going to happen on a national campaign. That's not going to happen on

campaign. That's not going to happen on a national campaign. House elections are

a national campaign. House elections are local.

local. >> So that, you know, the Green Party has

>> So that, you know, the Green Party has been

been >> doing this so long and has cannot get

>> doing this so long and has cannot get that together. But if you think it

that together. But if you think it can change, I would be all all for it.

can change, I would be all all for it. But I would definitely go into the

But I would definitely go into the Discord and check it out.

Discord and check it out. >> All right.

>> All right. >> Appreciate the call.

>> Appreciate the call. >> All right. Appreciate the answer.

>> All right. Appreciate the answer. >> Right. Right.

>> Right. Right. Um,

science political. Folks, that's our call-in portion of the program. Sorry,

call-in portion of the program. Sorry, that went a little longer and was not as

that went a little longer and was not as fruitful as I had hoped. With all due

fruitful as I had hoped. With all due respect, science is

respect, science is >> emd

>> emd >> science is political. The Green Party is

>> science is political. The Green Party is even more worthless than the Democratic

even more worthless than the Democratic party because they have literally zero

party because they have literally zero power. DSA taking over the Dems is much

power. DSA taking over the Dems is much easier and has had a larger base of

easier and has had a larger base of people who will just vote for them

people who will just vote for them because of the letter D. Jabri Bisport

because of the letter D. Jabri Bisport ran as a green got nowhere ran as a

ran as a green got nowhere ran as a democratic socialist and uh is now uh in

democratic socialist and uh is now uh in power.

>> Uh Carl Barks Discord says no thanks Marty. Uh former

Marty. Uh former >> go to a DSA meeting. These things are

>> go to a DSA meeting. These things are talked about all the time at DSA and I

talked about all the time at DSA and I wouldn't just count on like reports from

wouldn't just count on like reports from the outside of the convention looking in

the outside of the convention looking in to have them. Go have them with the

to have them. Go have them with the people who are who you're asking to

people who are who you're asking to change and become Green Party members.

change and become Green Party members. >> Left coast the to the caller. There are

>> Left coast the to the caller. There are caucuses within the DSA that believe in

caucuses within the DSA that believe in electoral work and even one in

electoral work and even one in particular that believes in taking over

particular that believes in taking over political parties. But that caucus is

political parties. But that caucus is small. To all listeners, you should get

small. To all listeners, you should get involved with the DSA and learn about

involved with the DSA and learn about the caucuses. If you believe in change

the caucuses. If you believe in change uh the change being spoken about.

uh the change being spoken about. >> Yes. Um,

the Milrind, I can foresee the DSA taking over the entire Chester County

taking over the entire Chester County Democratic Party within five years.

Democratic Party within five years. The DSA is making a hard charge into

The DSA is making a hard charge into Chester County. I think it's quite

Chester County. I think it's quite likely Chrissy Hulahan is about to get

likely Chrissy Hulahan is about to get primary next year from the left. The

primary next year from the left. The only thing that will make that possible

only thing that will make that possible is the DSA having been in the county now

is the DSA having been in the county now for a year incrementally building

for a year incrementally building infrastructure alongside with Democrats

infrastructure alongside with Democrats who are tr uh trying too much to act

who are tr uh trying too much to act like Republicans.

like Republicans. Uh,

Uh, I only hear about the Green Party once

I only hear about the Green Party once every four years. They don't exist. DSA

every four years. They don't exist. DSA should take over this weekend shell of a

should take over this weekend shell of a Democratic party. Says science is

Democratic party. Says science is political. All right, a couple more IMs

political. All right, a couple more IMs then and we're out of here. I want to go

then and we're out of here. I want to go short today. Uh, the the Bang. Oh, we

short today. Uh, the the Bang. Oh, we got a left reckoning. Uh, Theo Bang.

got a left reckoning. Uh, Theo Bang. Chuck Schumer legacy is failing to keep

Chuck Schumer legacy is failing to keep the pro is the left pro-Israel his

the pro is the left pro-Israel his self-stated main goal. Indeed. Three

self-stated main goal. Indeed. Three more. Uh, Central Spiral. I'm an

more. Uh, Central Spiral. I'm an indigenous person and yesterday I was

indigenous person and yesterday I was dogpilled uh po pled by multiple people

dogpilled uh po pled by multiple people from your Discord server because I

from your Discord server because I explained to them that colonization is

explained to them that colonization is still ongoing and that white people

still ongoing and that white people today are still best understood as

today are still best understood as colonizers because of their relationship

colonizers because of their relationship in benefiting from the dispossession of

in benefiting from the dispossession of indig indigenous people. This

indig indigenous people. This relationship exists with or without

relationship exists with or without individual choice. Please weigh in with

individual choice. Please weigh in with your thoughts on this. I know the term

your thoughts on this. I know the term is disagreeable, but so is pretending

is disagreeable, but so is pretending the relationship has somehow been

the relationship has somehow been altered with time.

altered with time. I mean, I think I mean, I think that's a

I mean, I think I mean, I think that's a fair point as a as an academic uh

fair point as a as an academic uh perspective on this. Um

perspective on this. Um I think the political realities are such

I think the political realities are such that

that the colonization

the colonization that started

that started hundreds of years ago in this country

hundreds of years ago in this country still [clears throat] continues to the

still [clears throat] continues to the extent that like you know we see it in

extent that like you know we see it in the context even of our our laws.

the context even of our our laws. Uh you can go back to uh on indigenous

Uh you can go back to uh on indigenous people's day we had uh uh we reran that

people's day we had uh uh we reran that Erico I think it his name was um uh

Erico I think it his name was um uh interview where he talked about how you

interview where he talked about how you know the concept of um

I can't remember the the name of it that that allows essentially uh white

that allows essentially uh white Christians to uh find a land and

Christians to uh find a land and discover it even if there's people

discover it even if there's people living on it um is there but I think as

living on it um is there but I think as a as a political matter. Um, I think

a as a political matter. Um, I think it's important to to maintain that

it's important to to maintain that understanding that

understanding that this is colonized land,

this is colonized land, but as a political matter, I'm not sure

but as a political matter, I'm not sure where you go from that, at least in the

where you go from that, at least in the context of this country.

context of this country. >> Yeah, you can have solidarity across

>> Yeah, you can have solidarity across that barrier.

that barrier. I mean I think

um that said like there should be reparative uh policy about things like

reparative uh policy about things like land back um starting with public lands

land back um starting with public lands uh to get them out of uh put them back

uh to get them out of uh put them back into you know under native uh uh

into you know under native uh uh stewardship. I think it is important, I

stewardship. I think it is important, I mean, as [clears throat] a starting

mean, as [clears throat] a starting point though for people to

point though for people to uh acknowledge

uh acknowledge that we're a colonial project and that

that we're a colonial project and that doesn't there's no like day that that

doesn't there's no like day that that ends.

ends. Um and uh certain um say fascist

Um and uh certain um say fascist tendencies within any colonial project

tendencies within any colonial project couldn't be tapped in uh even uh you

couldn't be tapped in uh even uh you know 200 years later as opposed to like

know 200 years later as opposed to like you know as they are we see them active

you know as they are we see them active in Israel now. I I I think like our

in Israel now. I I I think like our propensity or the uh uh fuel fascism has

propensity or the uh uh fuel fascism has here comes from that sort of process.

here comes from that sort of process. >> I don't think it's fair to say that the

>> I don't think it's fair to say that the relationship uh doesn't alter with time

relationship uh doesn't alter with time because it does

because it does >> because the distance that uh from uh

>> because the distance that uh from uh people's uh

people's uh lived experience both as the colonizer

lived experience both as the colonizer and the colonized uh changes.

and the colonized uh changes. But I do think having an understanding

But I do think having an understanding like sort of fundamentally that that is

like sort of fundamentally that that is the ongoing project is important so that

the ongoing project is important so that you can then

you can then have a political program to

have a political program to I don't think it's possible to reverse

I don't think it's possible to reverse it at this point. I mean realistically

it at this point. I mean realistically speaking

speaking >> uh

>> uh >> and decolonial like academic stuff I

>> and decolonial like academic stuff I think gets pretty watered down pretty

think gets pretty watered down pretty fast. But um I think it's helpful to

fast. But um I think it's helpful to have that awareness in terms of

have that awareness in terms of informing

how you respond to it from a policy perspective.

perspective. Um

I also like look people get dog piled everywhere. I don't

people get dog piled everywhere. I don't think that people should get dog piled

think that people should get dog piled but you know

but you know >> it's the internet.

>> it's the internet. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. But your point remains. Uh, left coast

But your point remains. Uh, left coast to the caller. There are caucuses in the

to the caller. There are caucuses in the DI. Oh, I already read that. All right,

DI. Oh, I already read that. All right, three more. Uh, train boy, can I use one

three more. Uh, train boy, can I use one skin if I don't have foreskin? Thank

skin if I don't have foreskin? Thank you.

you. Corporation ate my baby. Negotiate my

Corporation ate my baby. Negotiate my health care cost. Sure, Trump. Go ahead

health care cost. Sure, Trump. Go ahead and give me the same cost as vets that

and give me the same cost as vets that access the VA.

access the VA. That'd be nice.

That'd be nice. Except for my lines are really short,

Except for my lines are really short, but I want you all to have it. Scary

but I want you all to have it. Scary Mountain Wizard Kid Rock won't play NYC,

Mountain Wizard Kid Rock won't play NYC, but he will have no issue with coming up

but he will have no issue with coming up here to Bethl Woods and sharing his

here to Bethl Woods and sharing his awful music with uh rural New Yorkers.

awful music with uh rural New Yorkers. Matt, Brian, great job today. Emma,

Matt, Brian, great job today. Emma, wherever you are, great job, folks. See

wherever you are, great job, folks. See you tomorrow.

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