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hi Zan hi um I see you twice in one
month so that's interesting and we've
never met and ever but in one month
twice once in Saudi once here yes so I'm
glad it happened um firstly how are you
really doing I'm good life is good life
is treating me
good uh obviously I stopped playing
football eight months ago different life
now I accepted to to stop football which
was a difficult thing because because of
my ego because of the way I think about
myself which I think I'm the best I'm
still the best I could continue but I
choose to stop
why I chose to stop because I wanted a
good life for my family so I wanted to
be able to do things with my sons cuz my
consequence was that I would not be able
to do the things with my son because I
had problems with my with my one of my
knees so I accepted I came to a moment
where I said it's okay let it go and
start a new chapter in your life then it
went a couple of
months I made Jerry Cardinale that works
for that is controlling the red bird
fund that bought Milan and he gave me a
offer I couldn't refuse and I started to
work with AC Milan and I'm with AC Milan
three four months and he's treating me
good I have to say um I saw a recent
podcast with tier Onre and he was
speaking about leaving football and he
said that person died the ti the
footballer died and
it made me think that sometimes we as
men or women we associate our identity
and our value with something we do so if
you're a very good father you and the
moment your kids grow up you feel your
value is gone if you're a great husband
and you're wife passes away you might
feel you're not important anymore and
footballers or Engineers or whatever
they can associate with with what they
do so when some you ask somebody what
you do like who are you you say I'm
engineer and the problem sometimes when
especially men I feel
retire they feel not visible anymore or
not as and do you see it the same way
that theory maybe that Zan the
footballer had to go now and now there's
a new I
mean where I come from where I where I
grew up I didn't change from that I
always be
myself I was successful in what what I
was doing I was getting famous I was
earning money
but I was still the same person so the
football player was me so I could be
engineer or football player I I would
still be me and I think is important
because I think people change when they
get success they get independent with
money they get a certain status in life
where they think where things becomes
easier let's be honest it's not like you
have to stay in the line in in a club
you become famous you you pass everybody
they recognize you and and in a way you
get shortcut to everything but I always
be myself I promise myself I will not
change for nothing because remember
where you come from whatever happens and
whatever is is in front of you and I
think when I stop I'm still the same
person and when you say panicking with
guys it's correct because they live a
certain life when they stop they don't
get the attention anymore so what
happens they don't have education
because when you're professional you get
it in early age you didn't get any
diploma from school you you get early
professional you go a career you come
around 30 35 I was lucky I came to 41
then your life starts but you're 40 or
you're 35 so the education is not there
so basically you're coming out to the
world but you cannot do things like
you could do when you were 20 so people are
are
panicking I can imagine X players going
depression I can imagine they get panic
where people don't recognize them
anymore because you're not in the in the
moment anymore they don't get attention
so now they're looking for this
attention to be seen they go in front of
cameras they do whatever just to be seen
and have this recognition I think you
can say and when and when they don't get
it it becomes like like like a no man's
land but I always promise myself be
yourself whatever happens whatever you
do whatever you go through be yourself
so if I'm the player or not I'm still
the same guy so for me the the the
person didn't die I'm still alive trust
me if I ask you uh who are you
Zlatan I am
Zlatan I am
I am a person with I'm very confident
people call it arrogance but I'm very
confident I believe in what I'm
doing I can do mistakes when I do things
I will learn from the mistakes I can
redo a mistake I will still learn but I
believe being yourself is being perfect
I don't have this people try to make the
perfect image of me I try to make the
perfect image of me just to make just
for people to like
me is not important for me the most
important for me is the people around me
and people that is in my family they
know who I am and they like me the rest
is just a
consequence because I'm good at
something I do and that was playing
football and the whole world likes you
the whole world H recognize you but in
the end they like me for the player then
the person they don't really know
because the person you can hide behind a
field or you're just being yourself and
I choose to be myself even if I would do
mistakes even if I would do crazy things
what people would say yeah he's crazy
he's not good enough he's not good for
the image blah blah blah but I was just
being myself and then I grow from there
you get more mature you get older you
learn from things you do there is a
consequence from things you do and that
shapes the person and I have a big big
heart but I don't let people come in
because then I become weak for the
people and I don't let many people come
in in my in my zone M because then the
you have two type of person either you
meet the good guy or you meet the person
that will use you so that's why I'm very
isolated and the more popular you get
the more people who want to use you 100%
but there you have to be strong
and wise to read the person you have to
feel the situation but not many can do
it because this comes with experience it
comes with little bit intelligence so if
you're good at that you you manage to
control your childhood in three words
words suffering
why was it I know I know generally that
you didn't have a easy childhood but why
did you choose those words suffering you
started suffering because I was in a
situation where I saw other kids they
could do things I could I was not able
to do economically my father did his
best to make the best thing for me but
unfortunately the economics was not on
top how I didn't have the possibilities
to do things that uh that other kids
could do let's say I I was playing
football we went on a trip where we had
to pay by ourself my father couldn't pay
sometimes he would not pay their rent
for the apartment and he would pay my
trip sometimes sometimes not I saw
kids eat candies or whatever I could not
afford it I saw them use clothes nice
clothes you know you get a little bit
older cool clothes cool Brands I could
not buy
it I tried to steal when I was able to
steal it I was not always
successful and I had a very big
discipline because my father punish me
if I would do stupid things so it was a
balance of not survival mode I would not
say because I'm still alive because
survival mode feels very hard and deep
but in that in that way I was suffering
let's say I I wanted new football shoes
I couldn't play with new because I
couldn't afford it and then you see
other kids have it mhm so that in the
that I was not accepted like the other ones
ones
because I was Foreigner in Sweden so I
was judged different compared to the
Swedish people I had brown eyes I had
big nose I had brown hair typical
Swedish is blonde blue eyes and in my
world let's say the football World my
Swedish was not perfect and they didn't
accept me for who I was and I had this cocky
cocky
style I had a big uh big mouth but that
for me was confidence because I be I
said that was the best and I really
believed I am the best and that for them
they is not normal because they are like
stay in your place stay in line don't
jump over on somebody and then this new
thing comes which is different it was
hard because I had to be better than
everybody to show myself I had to go
through things that nobody else went
through I had to break walls to be
accepted and to to open doors for the
Next Generation that came in the from
the same situation like me let's say the
second generation Swedish that has
different background and is not typical
Swedish but is the new Sweden let's
say that's hard and uh aggressive would be
be
because I come from a family that we are
very aggressive so the way we show love
we don't hug and that we
are we were strong against each other my
father was aggressive against me and uh
and I became him so when he discussed
with me he didn't understand he's
discussing against himself because he
created the product so in that way the
the situation was very aggressive and
and I brought it with me in school so so
my Approach was aggressive
even if that was the way my way to show
love or positive
situation but they didn't see it like
that they see it his aggressive way of
doing things but that's the way I was
raised so it was not to
be threatful or or or being like
aggressive physically against somebody
they the mood was just like
aggressive um is like I'm curious ious
when you were this young man or teenager
or kid and you said that you're the best
in that that age Zlatan did you actually
believe you the best or it's like a
front that I need to fake it to believe
it you know no fake it till you make it
you know that saying like people think
he's an actor in front of the camera he
says things but really deep inside he's
not no no I really where I came from you
needed to be the best because it was
some kind of survival mode because
everything we did we challenge each
other you you wanted to show you were
the number one so the number one would
take his his Adventure from there and
not stay in that
whever ghetto let's say people call it
ghetto I call it home
so you needed to show you are the best
and be the best to take yourself from
there and in everything we did whatever
it was it could
be simple game easy game Crazy Game
stupid game you wanted to be the best
and in everything I did I was the best
and I had this Bulletproof Mind even if
I didn't win I'm still the best so I
convinced myself all the time in
everything I do I'm the best so that was
like talking to myself and I think in
normal life everything starts there I
cannot tell you you're the best you have
to convince yourself first that you're
the best absolutely it's like a smoker
you smoke cigarette
if you don't understand yourself you
have to stop I cannot help you you take
the first step and I will push you I
will give you the Boost is the same
thing with the mindset I believe I'm the
best then the rest follows but you have
to convince yourself if you're not
convinced other people they can give you
compliments and that but in the end when
you're alone because in the end you're
alone against everybody trust me so when people
people
think I give you a perfect example when
we win big trophies when we win they go
on the stage they say thanks to my
family thanks to my friends thanks to my
my
whatever the only one you have to thank
first of all is yourself because
yourself are going through everything
you're going through the stress you're
going through the whatever suffering the
training the recovery the
eating in my case you're in a stadium
there is 80,000 you come in a moment
where you
decide now I have to score in my
situation if I don't score what happens
they destroy me if I score I become the
hero the media which a big pressure
because when you play on the highest
level is a big pressure you depend you
are judged for what you do not for the
human being because you can be nice or
bad but still they destroy you if you're
nice and you're doing
bad so this there is this classic thanks
to them thing in then you have to thank
yourself because you go through it
yourself this might sound like a ego but
it's not a ego thing because I went
through it all
myself every consequence every I stand
in front of people to explain myself for
whatever action I did so the other ones
they help me they give me boost they
push me but in the end you do it
yourself that's why I say if you're
strong in your mind you go through everything
everything
M it's it's very true what you said that
I I mention us
you can't sell something if you don't
believe in it like people feel the
energy that you're insecure or you're
just saying it and another I think this
quote you might know I think you like it
it's when you said that you know you
have to take the first step one of my
favorite quotes is when the student is
ready the teacher will appear so I can't
teach you if you're not ready to learn
exactly but if you're ready to be the
best you can have a good coach exactly
but you can have the best coach coach
but if you're not interested it doesn't
matter you you don't even want you have
to take the first step 100% because I
believe 50% is in your head in whatever
everything we are doing athlete whatever
engineer whatever you do 50% in is in is
in your head because there is no saying
I was born a football player trust me
that's all I was born with a
football on my feet this is all to make
the story more wow or whatever like come
on you don't sell a fake story you sell
a real story hard work pays off you work
hard you arrive
arrive
um where what was something that you
were insecure about growing
up I mean not being accepted insecure of
doing things like what people if people
would like it or not so I came in a
moment you do
things because obviously you're not
always in control because other people
has to choose you or accept you for who
you are or for how good you are and that
was not always in my hands so becoming
insecure that you will not be accepted
or or
succeed it it happened in the young
age and I was asking other players we
talk football because my world is
football so to compare and before that
because I always played football and I
was in school and that I was insecure
talking to girls because I didn't have
the confidence at that time
because I was not feeling accepted so
obviously you feel
insecure and in the football game was
like I had to show I was 10 times better
than the other ones but I was not sure
if I did the right thing so I tried to
ask other ones for guidance or whatever
but everybody said we have never we
haven't been in your situation we cannot
help you and then I realized realiz it's
all about myself if I will make it it's
up to me I will have to find my own way
so there was no way that somebody told
me go right or go left sometimes I went
right sometimes I went left and from
left I went right and so I find my own
way and I did a lot of mistakes I did a
lot of crazy things a lot of stupid
things but in the end I found my
path I became
stronger I became very strong and even
stronger and from there there was no
stopping me then I went through every
wall were you bullied a lot in school I
was and I bullied other ones
also that's why I was bullying other
ones because I I was bullied also so it
became like a defense you bully me I
bullied the third guy just to feel my
defense but I couldn't bully the guys
who bullied me but I will not exaggerate
this is not like I was bullied and going
around because I was like a I said I was
pretty aggressive and tough in school
also but it happened that I bully other ones
ones
and and I got bullied in different ways
they say um hurt people hurt
people could be and healed people heal
people you know but it's also an
experience because when you're young you
think different AB I
mean every five years the person change
I'm not the same guy when I was 15 I'm
not the same guy when I was 20 20 25 30
this is all experience this is all all
the consequences you go through shapes
the the person so you could be the worst
guy when you were
15 but the best in the world when you
are 25 so it's all about experience and
and this if you decide exactly you you
you go through things and yeah it shapes
you who you are so every there is a bump
in the road every time but from every
bump it shapes you everything is not
perfect people think the world is
perfect everybody's perfect everybody
tries to find this perfect world and
exist in that perfect world is not like
that it doesn't exist and now with this
social media becomes even more difficult
because they think the world is is
social media they don't understand there
is another world outside and there we
talk filter you you you live a life
through a filter that is dangerous for
me um was it I I read a bit about you I
don't like to read too much because I
don't want to go biased so I always like
to ask was there a teacher that was
brought to you as special teacher to
help you in school to do better or
something I had a teacher assistant that
helped me because they thought something
was wrong with me so and I felt very
offended because I wanted to be treated
like everybody else it's always there
when we talk about not being accepted so
I had an assistant in the class from
20 students I was the only one had
assistant because they said yeah I was a
problem child I couldn't sit still he's
aggressive he's this and made me even
more Angry it didn't help me because I
was feeling different and they made me
feel feel different and I didn't like it
and I became
more more aggressive against the person
and against my environment because they
made me feel different what was her name
I don't remember but she she remembers
my name don't worry if she's still alive
and going to watch this what would you tell
tell
her she would say she never thought this
will happen because I said it will
happen and they were all joking and
laughing to meh but I'm not that guy I
will put it back to them or something I believe
believe
in win-win situation she tried her best
somebody gave her the job to do it if
she really wanted to do it or not I
they don't deserve me to go back against
them and hate them for me I don't work
like that I don't work I I'm happy with
with who I am about my situation and
maybe I wouldn't be here if these things
that didn't happen to me that's why I
say everything we do is a consequence
for what we become so maybe it was good
for me or not I don't know in that
moment not maybe now I say maybe it was
good for me because I became who I am so
but I don't believe in throwing back to
to the people who didn't believe in me
on that I don't give attention to them I
don't I would care less about them I
don't give them importance because they
don't deserve
it um and the
author um who co-wrote your
book which one there is many books one
of them you have many
sorry so one of them wrote that you are
a mix of a warrior because you had to be
and vulnerable is that a good
description of you as a person I think
so I think so vulnerable because I told
you I have a big heart people might not
think about it and me saying it yeah
yeah just saying it to to say it and the
warrior is the survival mode
so I think you have these balcan people
where they might seem strong and hard
which they are but with big heart M so
you might judge somebody just because
they are strong or
whatever but behind the strong and
the aggressive no but the the yeah the
toughness there is a big heart but you
just have to reach the heart and when
you reach the heart you will understand
who I am but you have to reach it and
not many reach it that's the difference
now that's why it stops there yeah he's
that he's that but they don't reach the
real the
real but it's not a weakness you cannot
say it weakness because I believe it's
strength actually yeah abely it's a
strength because if you come in you
don't lose you gain
so yeah but you have to come there which
is the hard part and then it can happen
you let people go in come in and then
you get disappointed because of things
story of my life you get disappointed
and you ask yourself you don't give the
blame to to the other person you give
the blame from yourself because you said
why was I so stupid to not understand or
to to
read the situation but we learn from
that because the next because it can
happen again so from the next time in
all these things I believe in you get
stronger you don't get weaker you get
stronger the only thing is you PID the
price for what you did before so you get stronger
stronger
and you get more more confident because
I mean from mistakes you learn that it's
simple you don't do mistakes you don't
learn yeah and when you're failing or
when like negative things happen you
learn more than from success and good things
things
happen it's it's I I relate a lot
because I also believe I have a very
small circle and the problem is some
sometimes I feel inside me like a kid
when I finally let somebody inside that
small circle I get so excited so I try
to give them everything share my family
share my love share my attention come
with me let's go because it's such a
small apartment that when finally I
allow somebody to come in that apartment
I'm like yeah but then sometimes that
hurt is the biggest hurt that you can
ever get it could be a friend but you
feel so betrayed and stupid you're like
ah like how how did this happen you feel betrayed
betrayed
but it Happ it happens it happens it's
part of the part part of the life
actually mhm but it's not only depending
on you it's depending also on the on the
opposite side yeah because I believe I
give you one chance if you don't take it
I will not give you the second because
if you didn't take the first one you
will absolutely not take the second so
that's and it's not like I'm doing a
favor it's
like more to open up yourself but one
chance not two but when you say one
chance so after would you give a person
no so they make one mistake they're out
out finish so would you think that you
don't deserve a second chance if you
made a mistake with a friend or with a
anyway one chance you don't deserve no
you don't believe people change when you
when you break a glass and you repair it
how does the glass look like not the
same but it could be repaired but not
the same could be but how does it look
clean like before no exactly M you can
shape it do whatever you want but still
you will see all the whatever you
fixed how was your um Zlatan
relationship with your mom and dad when
you were young was good was good I mean
my mom is he's a cleaner she had like we
we're a mix a big mix of family so I
have two sisters from my mother's side
bigger sister that I'm not in contact
with I have
a the smaller sister that is still older
than me that we have the same mother and
father we were the closest one and then
I had a big brother that passed away a
couple of years ago sorry then I have a
little brother that is from my mother's
side and uh so it's a big mix
but it is what it is we're nine so yeah
exactly it's part of the 2024 let's say and
and
um I have good good good relationship
with my mother less with my father but
it doesn't mean he is a bad because you
have to stand the balcon I don't know
how many friends you have that is from
balcon it's big
proudness who brings food to the table
who take care of the home so obviously I
came my father created the product like
I said to you but he created himself but
I took it to to other levels in sense of
economics and that so I made more things
possible so the proudness is you don't
help me I don't need nothing when I try
to help but I still help and I and I
still do what I believe in because I
think it's important you have to do what
you believe in not what people tell you
what to do because when you do those
things always something come back
because you're being yourself and when
you do it you do it from the heart not
from the brain because when you do from
the brain you try to be too intelligent
but when you do from the heart you
really want to do
it let's say charity people send money
to charity it and they go out and they
brag with it that they help charity and
that help charity without saying nothing
then you do it from the heart and then
you do it because you really want to do
it not to look good not to get applauds
from people he's a nice guy I don't need
that I don't need that and with my
father we are the same person proudness
proudness confident
confident
and and we do our own like
we do it in our own way so what happens
to golad golad the
Clash but he's still my father and he
will always be my father his name isik
orik shafik and Mom Jor yorka yulka
yulka I was I asked I called my Swedish
friend I'm like how can I say her name
yeah yeah y
y okay um why do you do all that you do
like did you ever figure out what's your
purpose why do you do everything cuz you
don't have to you could have stopped
football before you could have become a
businessman there's a purpose I mean
there is challenges in life first of all
if people is Happy around me I become
happy and that is the first question
what is happiness I believe happiness is
moments it doesn't last forever I could
be happy to sit here but in 30 minutes I
will tell you to go and yourself
for example sorry the language but you
understand what I mean you can swear as
much okay and that for me is happiness
is moments and you choose those moments
when it's happiness and that
and and I believe when people around me
my surrounding I make them
happy I become happy and then obviously
I have I had this childhood you cannot
make it you're not good enough you're not
not
accepted and that for me it burns it
burns because I go against all of those
things and I will demonstrate and I will
show you that's why I have this
winner Instinct I'm a winner I will win
I will do anything to
win and I will show you how I win so for
me that for me it burns and I will not
stop until I win so I do these things I
always have this saying why
be normal when you can be the best so
when I do my things I don't want to be
normal for me normal it doesn't exist I
want to make the difference and when you
make the difference
you're are being the best so for me is a
challenge so in reality I'm fighting
against myself not against the other
ones because I want to be the best
version of myself and take me myself to
limits and and try myself that's the
purpose and not be compared with other
ones because I don't compare myself with
nobody which you shouldn't because no
there's no apple to Apple in any case
your childhood is different from another
footballer from another it's not the
same it's the same different height
different skills exactly so for me it's
just how can you be the best but I'm
never satisfied that's my problem I
cannot enjoy the moment so whatever I do
in life I have difficult to enjoy
because I seek for the new challenge
straight if that is good or not there is
two ways because people could say you
should have enjoyed while you had it or
you should enjoy it while you were
living or the same say you have a lot of
will to to achieve more so it's a mix of
everything why there is no why we do it
because we want to do it like I said to
you I choose to do it and I don't want
to stop and I believe it drives you like
a person I don't I don't believe in just
sit still and wait for other ones to do
things I want to do my own
things I smile slightly sometimes when
you talk because you don't know how much
I connect to things you say okay it's
crazy like sometimes of course we're two
different human beings but we're very
same of course I'm a freak of nature in
what I'm doing doesn't exist two types
of my type I don't want to be zatan and
you don't want to be honest we're okay
trust me I'm good where I am
um because when you're talking about
never being satisfied one of my favorite
quotes is always grateful never
satisfied and I feel it represents me
I'm grateful alhamdulillah I have good
things in my life I have a family I feel
good I feel healthy but I'm never
satisfied that and like I and I think I
will die if I am satisfied like it it
will it's but I think it drives you also
that's why it takes you to a levels that
you would not achieve if you would not
be like that so it's you as a person you
you are like that because of your roots
what you went through so it's all a
consequence from what we go through yeah
so and then I believe your
surrounding the surrounding has to be
positive energy because like you said
your friend said or maybe he's not your
friend he came in a group and he was
pushed to do things because of the group
yeah and when the surrounding is not is
negative you become negative but at the
same time you have to be strong
because you choose to go in that group I
choose to say among positive energy yes
but if I'm around negative energy it's
because I choose it and that is you
choose and not being
satisfied like I said it can be positive
it can be negative but I think it drives
you it has to drive because it makes you
feel alive and you want to feel alive
yeah I'll rest when I'm
dead when you're dead we start to sleep
yeah for the long one um in the
co-author said that if 100 people went
through what you've been through 99
wouldn't make it so my question is how
but you're always about what other one
says what do you say that's what I'm no
what do you say I don't care what was
written in the book I want to ask you
because that's somebody wrote about you
I want to ask you ah they wrote about
what did they say that if they say a lot
of things about me and they still don't
somebody approved it somewhere so tell
me what did they say he said that if a
100 people went through what you've been
through true yes 99 wouldn't make it
like you obviously so my question is
you're talking about decisions right
yeah how did you use everything you've
gone through for you not against you
because a lot of people can be in your
shoes and be a victim oh my childood oh
this oh my school oh in Sweden nobody
except there is a thousand excuses but
used it for you let's say I'm on fire
and you put gas on fire what happens so
all these things is gas
so the fire becomes bigger and if you
want to play with fire I'll burn you so
it makes me everybody that went went
against me talk against in whatever I do
it putting gas on the fire so that makes
me it drives me more I want to do
more I want to exaggerate doing more so
it doesn't stop me it keeps me going
and people would say yeah but you
shouldn't be affected and that but
unfortunately it's not like you can be
affected in many ways depends how you
use it I use it as a fuel to do more
people break from it people get affected
by by it in a negative way because they
go yeah they write a comment about me in
social media whatever yeah but you know
social media is about comments
also so if you know that will happen why
are you reading it you think the world
is perfect from 10 comments you think 10
comments is wow is that like like that
because you have jealousy you have
people that whatever you're doing they
want to break you they want to go
whatever against you just to put you
down and that from 10 people not 10 want
to do that things and and give you
clapping hands or give you count
compliments that's why I say when you
say some talk bad about you some talk
good but when they talk bad you're doing
a good job my friend trust me I went
through all of this even if we were same
age but I talk with experience yeah you
have way more um like if I got 1%
criticism you got 100 but I I prefer to
be hated than loved I will be honest to
you because when they say they love you
you don't really know when they say they
hate you trust me they hate you it's
true that is it's at least honest
bro you tried to go in my brain now e
tried to come in my head there's
something I liked bro I'm flying I'm not
working people they walk I fly I will
fly with you I will bring you under my
wings my
friend I'll fly next to you
you
um you said that uh anger really helped
you to play well is this true yes it
keeps me on my toes because it makes me
connect better it makes me be on my toes
it makes me become more at pay
attention it it it drives me cuz when I
was not angry I was too relaxed so I
just needed a trigger point and in the
beginning I didn't find it because I
used anger in a stupid way because I
would get a red card I would do
something stupid that was a consequence
against me then I made anger to improve
my game because I was wasting energy in
the beginning like getting angry then I
changed because like I told you I was in
a aggressive environment so wherever I
come my Approach was
aggressive and that
anger in the beginning was going against
me but then I started to
learn and I made it my friend and then
we connected and then I used it
like like a ability in uh in making me
better and then when I was not angry
instead of other ones make me angry I
was looking for the anger so I was
trying to get the trigger points M just
to create a situation and then then
became different Michael Jordan used to
do that I don't know yeah I saw his
documentary obviously I don't know him
personally but obviously I was very
judged by everything I did yeah
teammates that he's the worst teammates
he's the best you cannot play with himam
he's aggressive he's put pressure on you
and that then I saw the last dance and
then I was very happy I was smiling just
like you do now because that is exactly
what describes the mindset mentality and
a winner because he wanted to bring the
the situation to another dimension and
that is what I try to do you don't drag
me down I will drag you up and that is
what he did because he was a winner and
winners they are like that so it's all
about either are you fly with me or you
or you fall down you
choose yeah I believe and I believe
sometimes people and I remember maybe
one of the few I love that documentary
and one of the few moments he got really
emotional which is rare he said um they
like they used to think I'm not a good
teammate or I'm pushing I'm very cruel I
just wanted them to win exactly but if
you're not understanding what I'm trying
to do as a bigger picture because I'm
trying to tell you I'll win with you
I'll make you a champion just work with
me so that's why I'm being hard on you
but it not it's not always go exactly it
doesn't always go in your way because
people come from different environment I tell
tell
you I came from very aggressive
environment and I was that person but I
didn't mean I wanted you bet it mean I
was like that obviously you Collide you
go along with
some but always you're judged by
by by the short moment instead of the
long purpose
did you ever regret a club move no I
don't believe in that I believe in
destiny whatever happens should happen I
swear if you watch an interview of me
it's like I should just put my sentences
and we'll complete this interview bro
there's only one L I
swear I can sit here three days with you
that's good news but bro trust me one
hour you I give you effective sign
because I believe in long terms you get
tired and in the end you're repeating
your words you're but you don't get my
questions every day yeah but you think
too much okay I'll remove the thinking
no you are a thinker no I mean in the in
the final no but I mean now you're a
thinker I am I don't like stupid
questions no there is no stupid
questions trust me a question is
question because you want answers
whatever question you do there is an
answer okay then next question but you
try to study me don't do that I swear
I'm just curious I'm a curious human
Okay um who's Dr Freddy Fu ah Freddy Fu
was became my friend and in a way he
saved my career because when I got
injured I got a very bad injury in
Manchester United I got a multi- injury
same thing there when I got injured in
my mind I was not injured because I said
to myself no no everything is okay and
everybody said no HRA this is this is a
very bad injury no no everything is good
and I tried to prove them that I could
walk that everything was okay in the
moment of the heat because a lot of
adrenaline so when the adrenaline is
there obviously you don't feel the the
same when the adrenaline is not
there so the day after I come no
everything is good do it
check it's all broke inside the knee
so this is my first major injury and I
have never been injured in that that
kind of injury so people said six months
one year one and a half year and for me
this is now this is hard because I never
this is like drowning me and I never
been drowned before because I like to be in
in
control I feel I'm like Untouchable in a
way that nothing will happen to me
because of my confidence because of my
ego because
of the way I am and I'm not in control
now cuz now there is a situation I have
to go through he more mental will I
make it will I not and remember when I
said guess on fire so everybody starts
now I'm 35 years old
36 36 and a half my career is over I
will never come back I will never make
it this is over finished too old ah my
friend now they're teasing now they're
burning they're getting burned because
and I'm not the guy who will go out out
and say you will
see cuz one thing is you talk and one
thing you show cuz I I prefer to work in
silence but I will perform in violence
that is my Approach and when I perform I
will show you but not by people think he
has a big mouth and that because I work
hard what people underestimate me for I
work very hard
and and not saying to you like everybody
says I'm the first in training and I go
out last in training but what does it
mean you can come first drink coffee
until you go home and let you have to
really show that you're working so I met
Freddy and know we were talking around
me and my manager
minola who would be the doctor to to do
the operation because we got a call from
the whole world now everybody wants to
operate me but they don't even know what
I have
which which for me was very strange
because with these things you don't joke
you don't play around so we inform
ourself who would be the best and Freddy
Fu came in the
picture said okay from because we gave 10
10
persons a a task let's say give me three
names who could operate a multi- injury
so not only one injury like
multi and from all 10 one name was in
all the
10 answers and that was Fredy fo we
called him the next day we we travel we
come to him
4:00 in the morning they were all in a
road said we can do it tomorrow also no
no no we do all everything now the test
everything and
obviously you get a opinion only you're
not deciding so wherever you go you get
a opinion but you need a first opinion
second third so you feel
feel
confident who will do it for you because
it's a big
responsibility but it felt confident
from the first minute when I met him
because when he
talk he look in my eyes first second
afterwards he was not looking at me
anymore he was walking around I was like
this guy's crazy what is he doing he was
talking we will do like this we will do
that we will do that blah blah blah you
will come back blah blah basically he
was talking to himself but still the
voice was against me and I said this
guy because all genius they said they're
crazy and I said this crazy CRA guy he's
the right guy I felt immediately he's the
the
one and
then and then there is a funny story and
because he said to me I don't operate
humans only I operate animals also so I
said perfect I'm in good hands because I
am an
animal become little bit joke because
obviously the situation was very
hard I get operated the day I get
operated he said we wait one week
said okay I'm in Pittsburgh because the
office was in
Pittsburgh after two days he called me
he said tomorrow we operate and I look
tomorrow it's only past two days you
said one week I had a dream I have to
operate you tomorrow I was like I'm
not a crazy guy I meet now but I believe
in this because like I said before it's
Destiny he said wait outside the
hospital 4 o'clock in the morning said
okay me and Mino we're outside he picks me
me
up like the story doesn't doesn't end he
brings me to the
hospital he goes prepare I go whatever
do to clean and that he
comes and in the day of the operation
he's just looking at
me and I'm like oh this
guy I already decide but I said this
guyy is not normal because he's making
me now feel like what's going on because
many want to have proudness to just to
operate and then they don't know not
like they don't know they don't care
about the outcome because the operation
is as important as the
rehab he just look at me look at
me the guy he was carrying me in a way
that I put my career let's say in his
hands and then he operate and that we
finish and then it's a long story I make
sure he fixed everything in my knee he
said trust me you will come back and you
will be as strong as before and that for
me is important because
now you give me words that I can believe
in instead of me finding my own like I
said to you you pump yourself you
convince yourself instead he said to me
you will be as strong as before and now
but it's up to you because of the re
rehab and I went through through a rehab
that was a mental training I never did
before but I believe in those things
like I said before in a bad situation
you become stronger than in a good
situation I came back I start to play my
game again and and unfortunately Freddy
away couple of years ago and was a sad
moment for me
because he said he gave me a second life
in my
career and I'm not sure I would have
that if if it was not for him so I'm
very thanksful for him for what he did
for me and I will always he will always
be remembered in my career MH
so or less like
this I'll ask you a favor can I get 1990
minutes cuz I have a lot you're
negotiating now if you can how long is a
movie usually yeah nowadays goes up to 2
hours but usually we go for 90 90 minute
you're on Netflix yeah how long is on
Netflix depends which movie Heimer is
three you're ready for three yeah but
you fall asleep after 1 here you don't
fall asleep I told you 1 hour effective
time but I will give you 90 minutes
alhamdulillah okay um because I will
save your
show because I will bring you the real
deal not like the other on they will
tell you what you want to hear I will
tell you the what's the real story you
have one more compliment that's not a
compliment that's fact have one more
fact it's coming keep going what does
success mean to you
what is success depending what you
believe is success for me success people
think I'm successful just because I
became a football player but successful
can be many
things depends what what you're aiming
mean Successful People would say I make
I give food to my family you're also
successful there successful would be I
made it from my neighbor Hood but for
me if we talk about my neighborhood for
me my neighborhood was Paradise I was
feeling good I was feeling home I would
prefer to live there than where I live
today now I live where I live because of
my situation of life but there I was
feeling home here I feel home but not in
the same way so what is success whatever
you choose it to
be what do you this is also success
because you made me come here so for you
is a big success and for you for me I'm schooling
schooling [Laughter]
[Laughter]
you okay
Zan what does love bro I gave you I told
you this is something else this this
mindset is different but okay I'm
feeling you this is why I'm by the way
we you don't need to impress me I that's
why I was laughing when I saw the
pictures outside but it's okay there's
some good pictures no no beautiful
pictures we're going to add yours but
you want yours bigger no no no you don't
need to even to put me everybody place
no I don't humans are equal here we're
all important what does love mean to you
what is love
love love is a strong
word I think love can be a weakness and
can be a strength because sometimes love
goes against you what you love and it
goes with
you it's a natural thing it's nothing you
you
choose it comes by itself you cannot
choose to love somebody that comes by
itself so it's a very strong
word but it grows naturally it's not
programmed what does Helena mean to you
everything I
think if she wouldn't have the
patient and if she wouldn't if she's 10
years older than me I read 11 but I'll
take you away 11 yeah I take one year
away from
her so if she I think if she would not
be 11 years older than me she would not
stayed with me because she had the
patient to stay with that person that
was all these things I told you in the
beginning and she had a lot of patient
what we went through because she had her
own career so it's not
like she became something because of me
in a sense
career she had her own so she always
says to me remember who took care of you
before you started to take care of the
family if you understand the what I'm
trying to say so she had her career and
she gave up her career for me because I
choose it to be like that
and and she went through everything she did
did
basically she gave everything to me and
gave up everything for me
and that for
me what do you give back you you you
cannot give more back
back
to arrive on that level because you try
to do your best but imagine you give up
everything just for one person so maybe
your dreams or whatever achievement
you're looking for or objectives and and
I'm very thanksful I have her I
appreciate a lot we have been together a
very long time m and we trigger each
other we we are more than a
relationship so I would ask her for
advice in whatever I do if I follow not
every time because sometimes I just want
to hear opinion so depending on the
answer maybe I'm looking
for a different answer but not getting
it and still looking for the for the
other one if you understand what I mean
I do I would go against her even if she
says yes and for me still no so just to
get an opinion but we talk a lot and I
think she's an amazing mother for my
boys and that is the most important the
rest I know it will be it will be
resolved whatever there is the most
important is she's there for my boys
what do maximilan and Vincent mean to
you I mean children you change as a
person trust me before them I
was I was a Superman when they came in
the picture I became a teddy bear so
they became it's strong strong to say
but in life children they they are they
are your weakness but in not it may
sound in a bad way but they they are
your weakness because whatever happens
to to them happens to you MH and you
don't want something to happen to them
so you want to teach them obviously you
want to make them independent you want
to teach them discipline respect
give them education to grow up and keep the
the
same raise you had but with different
opportunity obviously because I don't
raise I raise them the same way I was
raised but obviously they have different
opportunity so so there is a balance you
always think you do the same the the
right thing but maybe it's not the right
thing because a third person can judge
you but from inside you always think you
you're doing the right thing for them
and that is what you're trying but it
maybe it's not the right thing but at
least you think it is
so the discipline the the the
responsibility the respect which for me
is more important than than
religion so all these things is is a big
responsibility so now I know what my
parents went through when I got my boys
and it's not easy what is masah mAh is a
I know okay
perfect um you said you've been together
for a long time long time what is the
most important thing for your
relationship or any healthy partnership
I think when you meet your girlfriend
first day is not the same person after
five years and after five again becomes
a different person so it's all
about it cannot die out it has to be a
life the situation the relationship so
you trigger each other you grow up as
one you try to stimulate each other
things happens every day is not a
fantastic day but you go through it you
have to understand the partner you're
with you have to respect and don't
believe don't think you're above the
person because then obviously you need
to trigger the person to feel to give
energy back to give this back what you
give the person
so I think in relationship don't have
this ego that you're above somebody else
I believe more 50/50 then obviously some
areas she has more responsibility some
areas I have more respons responsibility
but I think the the key of our
relationship is that we try to live as
normal as possible people might think
that we are a family that has a luxury
family I can tell you she does the
laundry she cooks the food the only
thing we have the cleaner that helps us
with that
I drive the kids to school I pick them
up from training like a normal classic
family and that is the way we choose to
have it so there is no I'll give you an
example we were living in La Beverly
Hills so from the whole school only my
children took their bicycles to school
but the other ones there was the nanny
dropped their kids Nanny bring up the
kids or a driver this is not who we are
I bring them I pick them up she bring
them or she pick them up she do the things home whatever home what do you
things home whatever home what do you say homework they have I go through it
say homework they have I go through it if I'm not able she goes through it
if I'm not able she goes through it normal family M with different
possibilities if you could teach Zlatan every child in the world one lesson what
every child in the world one lesson what lesson would it
lesson would it be
be discipline nice I believe in discipline
discipline nice I believe in discipline discipline will keep you alive will
discipline will keep you alive will bring you to to wherever you want to
bring you to to wherever you want to come I believe it's I think is the most
come I believe it's I think is the most is the most strongest but he the most
is the most strongest but he the most difficult and when one one of the most
difficult and when one one of the most underrated I feel I believe I follow
underrated I feel I believe I follow discipline and I try to teach them what
discipline and I try to teach them what discipline
discipline is um what is an unforgivable
is um what is an unforgivable action unforgivable action would be a
action unforgivable action would be a consequence that you you have to live
consequence that you you have to live with if I'm understanding that no like
with if I'm understanding that no like what if what is an action if somebody
what if what is an action if somebody did to Zlatan finish one chance I told
did to Zlatan finish one chance I told you but what would be lying cheating it
you but what would be lying cheating it can be whatever whatever you give trust
can be whatever whatever you give trust to somebody he don't take care of that
to somebody he don't take care of that trust he doesn't mean it's I am doing
trust he doesn't mean it's I am doing you a favor to that I'm giving you a
you a favor to that I'm giving you a chance but you give you take I mean I
chance but you give you take I mean I open up for you you open up for me and
open up for you you open up for me and we get to
we get to know you disappoint me or you you lose
know you disappoint me or you you lose that trust one chance I don't believe I
that trust one chance I don't believe I mean two people say yeah you would give
mean two people say yeah you would give an extra chance but it will not be the
an extra chance but it will not be the same thing 100% you will have because
same thing 100% you will have because you look in one way the first time if it
you look in one way the first time if it goes not like it is the second time you
goes not like it is the second time you will look at that that way but not the
will look at that that way but not the same
same way I went through those things so but
way I went through those things so but it's not like me it might sound like I
it's not like me it might sound like I arrogant I give you a chance to get to
arrogant I give you a chance to get to know or I make you a favor I give you a
know or I make you a favor I give you a chance no it's not in every situation
chance no it's not in every situation there is one chance I believe two if I
there is one chance I believe two if I give you a task to do if you don't make
give you a task to do if you don't make it in the first who says you will make
it in the first who says you will make it in the second one it means I had to
it in the second one it means I had to repeat to you to do it the second time
repeat to you to do it the second time so you were not doing that the first
so you were not doing that the first time so you're not able to do
time so you're not able to do it what is a question in your mind that
it what is a question in your mind that you
you still don't have the answer to I think
still don't have the answer to I think there is answer for everything
there is answer for everything there is no answer not answered there is
there is no answer not answered there is answer depends only who you are and how
answer depends only who you are and how you answer the
you answer the question like is there a question that's
question like is there a question that's still going in your mind all the time
still going in your mind all the time and no no and see if I would have a
and no no and see if I would have a question I will find the
question I will find the answer yeah I believe most of the
answer yeah I believe most of the answers are within
answers are within us yeah but I think people they
us yeah but I think people they exaggerate they seek for something
exaggerate they seek for something that becomes too poetic to it it's
that becomes too poetic to it it's simple you find that answer if you want
simple you find that answer if you want you find the answer it's not more
you find the answer it's not more difficult than you if you make it
difficult than you if you make it difficult it's difficult if you make it
difficult it's difficult if you make it simple it's
simple it's simple because it's not
simple because it's not so difficult like people might think it
so difficult like people might think it is there is an answer for everything and
is there is an answer for everything and time answer like time finds answer the
time answer like time finds answer the the the answer is time for
the the answer is time for everything that is what I try to say
everything that is what I try to say what is a moment where you felt deep B
what is a moment where you felt deep B betrayal I mean there's many moments you
betrayal I mean there's many moments you feel betrayed but which one comes
feel betrayed but which one comes up nothing nothing
up nothing nothing specific nothing what I
specific nothing what I can betrayal depends how you mean in my
can betrayal depends how you mean in my profession of work or in my normal life
profession of work or in my normal life that hurt you you feel
betrayed there is many small examples but often the small examples is the big
but often the small examples is the big hits M because I believe in small
hits M because I believe in small details makes the difference so small
details makes the difference so small examples make the difference but I don't
examples make the difference but I don't have really CU like I told you betrayal
have really CU like I told you betrayal I don't go back and I look at it and I
I don't go back and I look at it and I feel like I have to give back or
feel like I have to give back or Revenge I don't believe in those things
Revenge I don't believe in those things you had your moment we go on you have to
you had your moment we go on you have to go on
go on because you have to keep keep striving
because you have to keep keep striving to go
to go go go in front we don't go backwards we
go go in front we don't go backwards we go forward so this betrayal is you can
go forward so this betrayal is you can cough bro you okay you need my water
cough bro you okay you need my water take my water it's okay you can
take my water it's okay you can drink okay
um who's a person that passed away and every time you remember them your heart
aches I had my my manager Mino Rola when he passed away it was a big hit for me
he passed away it was a big hit for me because he was not just my manager he
because he was not just my manager he was he was everything for me but when I
was he was everything for me but when I say everything is everything he was
say everything is everything he was father agent he was friend he was
father agent he was friend he was advisor he
was whatever my cook ever whatever I did 360 Degrees he was there and when he got
360 Degrees he was there and when he got sick he was too much of a ego he and he
sick he was too much of a ego he and he would not say he was sick because he
would not say he was sick because he wanted to show his players and he had
wanted to show his players and he had some players he was very close to and I
some players he was very close to and I was one of
was one of them he didn't want to show to us that
them he didn't want to show to us that he was weak and he had that
he was weak and he had that ego by not sharing with him that he was
sick and uh and I would it was a big hit for me
uh and I would it was a big hit for me because I was not ready for that I was
because I was not ready for that I was absolutely not ready for that because
absolutely not ready for that because everything I went through I went through
everything I went through I went through with him and suddenly it went so fast I
with him and suddenly it went so fast I was there
was there alone without him and doing
alone without him and doing things without him so it was not the
things without him so it was not the same thing anymore so I couldn't share
same thing anymore so I couldn't share my moments with him whatever I went
my moments with him whatever I went through private life or professional
through private life or professional because we really did
because we really did everything what whatever we went through
everything what whatever we went through so that's for me when I look back he's
so that's for me when I look back he's he will always be remembered and he will
he will always be remembered and he will always be in my
always be in my heart because he he changed me a lot
heart because he he changed me a lot also as a
person if um God give you a long life but hypothetically if today was the last
but hypothetically if today was the last day of your life and you had no chance
day of your life and you had no chance of communicating with anybody before
of communicating with anybody before you're gone who would you feel regret
you're gone who would you feel regret that you didn't have a chance to
contact nobody because when you're away you're away my friend there is no less
you're away my friend there is no less wish Last Chance friend you regret that
wish Last Chance friend you regret that you even sent that
message when was the last time you cried when Mino passed away I told you
cried when Mino passed away I told you it was a big hit for me and I cried
it was a big hit for me and I cried until the last airdrop you say yeah
until the last airdrop you say yeah finished and he still not finished
finished and he still not finished because sometimes I get flashbacks and
because sometimes I get flashbacks and it brings me down in a in a way that I
it brings me down in a in a way that I miss him too much and I think everybody
miss him too much and I think everybody that knows him and me they know how
that knows him and me they know how close we were when did he pass passed
close we were when did he pass passed away last
away last year if you could text him now and he
year if you could text him now and he will read it what you would tell him I
will read it what you would tell him I miss
miss you last question is latan in one
you last question is latan in one word
word gold thank you boss thank you very much
gold thank you boss thank you very much you bro I look sharp or I
you bro I look sharp or I good I don't think he has a choice huh
good I don't think he has a choice huh like yeah it's the best
direct yeah he was the one who told me you're Arenal fan you doing the
you're Arenal fan you doing the show nice to meet you nice I met you
show nice to meet you nice I met you [Music]
already before we sit down we stand up you can start by saying how what did you
you can start by saying how what did you think about the okay good how's your
think about the okay good how's your father is
father is good good is it giving you discipline or
good good is it giving you discipline or [Music]
not I'm happy this happened no coincidence it's two times in one month
coincidence it's two times in one month from any friend and brother thank you
from any friend and brother thank you very
very [Music]
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