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whole world knows these pirates sail up
whole world knows these pirates sail up the thames all the way to your royal bed
the thames all the way to your royal bed
the thames all the way to your royal bed yeah don't you would
yeah don't you would
yeah don't you would wouldn't say that definitely didn't say
wouldn't say that definitely didn't say
wouldn't say that definitely didn't say that
that
that wouldn't yeah don't don't say
wouldn't yeah don't don't say
wouldn't yeah don't don't say that hi i'm dr joanne paul i'm a
that hi i'm dr joanne paul i'm a
that hi i'm dr joanne paul i'm a historian and the author of the house of
historian and the author of the house of
historian and the author of the house of dudley and i'm here to break down some
dudley and i'm here to break down some
dudley and i'm here to break down some clips from tutor film and tv shows
okay so we've got a scene from wolf hall
okay so we've got a scene from wolf hall reduction
reduction
reduction you see much progress in your course
you see much progress in your course
you see much progress in your course we've just had a reference to to
we've just had a reference to to
we've just had a reference to to cardinal woolsey
cardinal woolsey
cardinal woolsey um which means he's probably still alive
um which means he's probably still alive
um which means he's probably still alive which means we're looking at about 15
which means we're looking at about 15
which means we're looking at about 15 29.
oh significant glance there
oh significant glance there and and significant glance lady um who
and and significant glance lady um who
and and significant glance lady um who i'm sure we'll find out who she is in a
i'm sure we'll find out who she is in a
i'm sure we'll find out who she is in a moment is holding um a dog and bolin did
moment is holding um a dog and bolin did
moment is holding um a dog and bolin did have a dog um whose name was parkoy
have a dog um whose name was parkoy
have a dog um whose name was parkoy which was probably an anglicization of
which was probably an anglicization of
which was probably an anglicization of the french word porcua
the french word porcua
the french word porcua because he had a very sort of quizzical
because he had a very sort of quizzical
because he had a very sort of quizzical look on his face as if he was always
look on his face as if he was always
look on his face as if he was always asking why it's very tragic actually he
asking why it's very tragic actually he
asking why it's very tragic actually he ends up
ends up
ends up either falling or being thrown out a
either falling or being thrown out a
either falling or being thrown out a window
window
window and anne apparently they're scared to
and anne apparently they're scared to
and anne apparently they're scared to tell anne because she's so devastated
tell anne because she's so devastated
tell anne because she's so devastated who wouldn't be very nice
love it claire foy here is doing a
love it claire foy here is doing a fantastic job as anne boleyn what i
fantastic job as anne boleyn what i
fantastic job as anne boleyn what i think is interesting though about uh her
think is interesting though about uh her
think is interesting though about uh her casting um is is she's very she's very
casting um is is she's very she's very
casting um is is she's very she's very pale anne boleyn was known to have what
pale anne boleyn was known to have what
pale anne boleyn was known to have what was often identified as a sallow
was often identified as a sallow
was often identified as a sallow complexion
complexion
complexion very dark and certainly very dark eyes
very dark and certainly very dark eyes
very dark and certainly very dark eyes there's a lot written about her alluring
there's a lot written about her alluring
there's a lot written about her alluring um dark eyes claire foy is is perhaps
um dark eyes claire foy is is perhaps
um dark eyes claire foy is is perhaps not an expected um choice for her
lady mary god i thought she would slap
lady mary god i thought she would slap you
you
you yes so it is lady mary berlin
yes so it is lady mary berlin
yes so it is lady mary berlin who is often presented as as blonde um
who is often presented as as blonde um
who is often presented as as blonde um even though we didn't know what she
even though we didn't know what she
even though we didn't know what she looked like
looked like
looked like they say she and the king still haven't
they say she and the king still haven't
they say she and the king still haven't it's true
it's true
it's true okay so this is the idea that ambulan
okay so this is the idea that ambulan
okay so this is the idea that ambulan and henry viii um don't do the deed
and henry viii um don't do the deed
and henry viii um don't do the deed until uh late 1532 when they are in
until uh late 1532 when they are in
until uh late 1532 when they are in calais
calais
calais there's nothing contemporary to support
there's nothing contemporary to support
there's nothing contemporary to support that idea this idea though that it's
that idea this idea though that it's
that idea this idea though that it's anne that tempts but then withholds um
anne that tempts but then withholds um
anne that tempts but then withholds um is something that comes much much later
is something that comes much much later
is something that comes much much later but we always see it in representations
but we always see it in representations
but we always see it in representations of anne boleyn
of anne boleyn
of anne boleyn maybe there will be a representation of
maybe there will be a representation of
maybe there will be a representation of ann at some point that doesn't doesn't
ann at some point that doesn't doesn't
ann at some point that doesn't doesn't do that that would be great
do that that would be great
do that that would be great she lets him pull down her shift and
she lets him pull down her shift and
she lets him pull down her shift and kiss her breasts
kiss her breasts
kiss her breasts good man
good man
good man okay that's actually from a letter from
okay that's actually from a letter from
okay that's actually from a letter from 1528 when henry talks about
1528 when henry talks about
1528 when henry talks about missing anne and especially at night
missing anne and especially at night
missing anne and especially at night wishing he could uh kiss her duckies um
wishing he could uh kiss her duckies um
wishing he could uh kiss her duckies um which is a tudor word for breasts so um
which is a tudor word for breasts so um
which is a tudor word for breasts so um that is is actually substantiated by the
that is is actually substantiated by the
that is is actually substantiated by the sources
this is clearly anne's execution scene
this is clearly anne's execution scene um this was in may of 1536
um this was in may of 1536
um this was in may of 1536 early morning
early morning
early morning which i think is is represented well
which i think is is represented well
which i think is is represented well here and by the law i am judged to die
here and by the law i am judged to die
here and by the law i am judged to die yeah i can't hear her and therefore i
yeah i can't hear her and therefore i
yeah i can't hear her and therefore i think you'd speak up for a last word
think you'd speak up for a last word
think you'd speak up for a last word spider-man is in this
spider-man is in this
spider-man is in this [Laughter]
so we have uh the accounts of her
so we have uh the accounts of her execution that her ladies those around
execution that her ladies those around
execution that her ladies those around her um are removing uh the headdress
her um are removing uh the headdress
her um are removing uh the headdress from her and putting a cap on her that
from her and putting a cap on her that
from her and putting a cap on her that that holds her hair um during the
that holds her hair um during the
that holds her hair um during the execution most representations of the
execution most representations of the
execution most representations of the death of ambulance she doesn't wear a
death of ambulance she doesn't wear a
death of ambulance she doesn't wear a blindfold but it is it is in one of the
blindfold but it is it is in one of the
blindfold but it is it is in one of the sources
sources
sources and i think
and i think
and i think this scene really captures um the the
this scene really captures um the the
this scene really captures um the the terror
terror
terror anne wouldn't have been very close to
anne wouldn't have been very close to
anne wouldn't have been very close to these ladies either they weren't the
these ladies either they weren't the
these ladies either they weren't the ladies who had served her as queen um
ladies who had served her as queen um
ladies who had served her as queen um many were often
many were often
many were often assigned to to her and would have been
assigned to to her and would have been
assigned to to her and would have been assigned to her in in her imprisonment
so the swordsman um of calais he had
so the swordsman um of calais he had been especially sent to england
been especially sent to england
been especially sent to england in order to behead anne boleyn in fact
in order to behead anne boleyn in fact
in order to behead anne boleyn in fact the execution had been delayed several
the execution had been delayed several
the execution had been delayed several times because they were waiting on the
times because they were waiting on the
times because they were waiting on the executioner
executioner
executioner execution by sword would have been a
execution by sword would have been a
execution by sword would have been a more humane sort of merciful execution
more humane sort of merciful execution
more humane sort of merciful execution especially uh by an expert um such as
especially uh by an expert um such as
especially uh by an expert um such as such as he was seen to be um the sword
such as he was seen to be um the sword
such as he was seen to be um the sword that they show as well is is an
that they show as well is is an
that they show as well is is an executioner's sword there's some great
executioner's sword there's some great
executioner's sword there's some great examples of those at heaven castle which
examples of those at heaven castle which
examples of those at heaven castle which is is the berlin
is is the berlin
is is the berlin home
he's creeping around her um and if if
he's creeping around her um and if if they're going according to the sources
they're going according to the sources
they're going according to the sources in a second he's going to call for his
in a second he's going to call for his
in a second he's going to call for his servant to distract her again that that
servant to distract her again that that
servant to distract her again that that is from the reports of the execution
is from the reports of the execution
is from the reports of the execution that we have
it's a little late for that so anne's
it's a little late for that so anne's execution um her head is off in in one
execution um her head is off in in one
execution um her head is off in in one stroke uh the joke i think that's meant
stroke uh the joke i think that's meant
stroke uh the joke i think that's meant to be francis um brian based on based on
to be francis um brian based on based on
to be francis um brian based on based on the eye patch the joke is of course she
the eye patch the joke is of course she
the eye patch the joke is of course she was executed for adultery there is no
was executed for adultery there is no
was executed for adultery there is no evidence that she did ever commit
evidence that she did ever commit
evidence that she did ever commit adultery uh it was it was a political
adultery uh it was it was a political
adultery uh it was it was a political murder in many ways so accuracy rating
murder in many ways so accuracy rating
murder in many ways so accuracy rating for wolf hall i mean it is pretty good
for wolf hall i mean it is pretty good
for wolf hall i mean it is pretty good they got the reference to kissing
they got the reference to kissing
they got the reference to kissing duckies i think that's pretty good so
duckies i think that's pretty good so
duckies i think that's pretty good so i'd give it about
i'd give it about
i'd give it about six seven seven let's let's be let's be
six seven seven let's let's be let's be
six seven seven let's let's be let's be nice let's give it a seven
nice let's give it a seven
nice let's give it a seven all right next up mary queen of scots
all right next up mary queen of scots
all right next up mary queen of scots which i think is is the most recent film
which i think is is the most recent film
which i think is is the most recent film iteration of a tudor story
iteration of a tudor story
iteration of a tudor story and yet you would make us hers
and yet you would make us hers
and yet you would make us hers so we have elizabeth uh
so we have elizabeth uh
so we have elizabeth uh meeting with her privy council i think
meeting with her privy council i think
meeting with her privy council i think she is pockmarked so this is probably
she is pockmarked so this is probably
she is pockmarked so this is probably sometime after 1562 which is when she
sometime after 1562 which is when she
sometime after 1562 which is when she gets small parks but mary is our foe and
gets small parks but mary is our foe and
gets small parks but mary is our foe and a catholic she is only your queen if i
a catholic she is only your queen if i
a catholic she is only your queen if i should not produce an heir and will you
should not produce an heir and will you
should not produce an heir and will you madam ah there he is robert dudley um
madam ah there he is robert dudley um
madam ah there he is robert dudley um played here by joe alwyn looking rather
played here by joe alwyn looking rather
played here by joe alwyn looking rather shifty there um because uh you know they
shifty there um because uh you know they
shifty there um because uh you know they may have uh
may have uh
may have uh had physical relationships uh they may
had physical relationships uh they may
had physical relationships uh they may have uh considered marrying each other
have uh considered marrying each other
have uh considered marrying each other um for a long time it was it was thought
um for a long time it was it was thought
um for a long time it was it was thought that he would marry her and that would
that he would marry her and that would
that he would marry her and that would be the route to producing an heir so a
be the route to producing an heir so a
be the route to producing an heir so a lot of
lot of
lot of eye work from robert dudley there
eye work from robert dudley there
eye work from robert dudley there this relationship too between elizabeth
this relationship too between elizabeth
this relationship too between elizabeth and her privy council is is pretty
and her privy council is is pretty
and her privy council is is pretty accurate
accurate
accurate it was
it was
it was often filled with tension she didn't
often filled with tension she didn't
often filled with tension she didn't trust them they didn't really trust her
trust them they didn't really trust her
trust them they didn't really trust her after all she is but a woman especially
after all she is but a woman especially
after all she is but a woman especially anything to do with um her marriage um
anything to do with um her marriage um
anything to do with um her marriage um and her ability to produce an heir
and her ability to produce an heir
and her ability to produce an heir always resulted in precisely these sorts
always resulted in precisely these sorts
always resulted in precisely these sorts of of conversations she has proven
of of conversations she has proven
of of conversations she has proven herself in fact far more capable than my
herself in fact far more capable than my
herself in fact far more capable than my own privy council yeah should i die
own privy council yeah should i die
own privy council yeah should i die before my time we could do worse than to
before my time we could do worse than to
before my time we could do worse than to place her on the throne of england yeah
place her on the throne of england yeah
place her on the throne of england yeah no no sorry i'm going to have to i'm
no no sorry i'm going to have to i'm
no no sorry i'm going to have to i'm going to have to stamp a big
going to have to stamp a big
going to have to stamp a big on on this one um
on on this one um
on on this one um elizabeth famously would not declare an
elizabeth famously would not declare an
elizabeth famously would not declare an heir
heir
heir she she really didn't want to um and
she she really didn't want to um and
she she really didn't want to um and fair enough because that just puts
fair enough because that just puts
fair enough because that just puts a crown over someone who could supplant
a crown over someone who could supplant
a crown over someone who could supplant her
her
her it was still also treason to talk about
it was still also treason to talk about
it was still also treason to talk about the the death of of the monarch to um
the the death of of the monarch to um
the the death of of the monarch to um compass or imagine the monarch's death
compass or imagine the monarch's death
compass or imagine the monarch's death so this sort of conversation
so this sort of conversation
so this sort of conversation is is fairly unlikely i understand why
is is fairly unlikely i understand why
is is fairly unlikely i understand why they want to pull it out but her saying
they want to pull it out but her saying
they want to pull it out but her saying that it would be a good idea for mary
that it would be a good idea for mary
that it would be a good idea for mary queen of scots to be her heir uh is is
queen of scots to be her heir uh is is
queen of scots to be her heir uh is is just it just doesn't sit well with what
just it just doesn't sit well with what
just it just doesn't sit well with what we know about her uh or or the history
we know about her uh or or the history
we know about her uh or or the history of the time
of the time
of the time i am more man than woman now
but i have no enmity with you
but i have no enmity with you i mean she does um so this is um
i mean she does um so this is um
i mean she does um so this is um the famous non-existent meeting um
the famous non-existent meeting um
the famous non-existent meeting um between mary queen of scots and
between mary queen of scots and
between mary queen of scots and elizabeth the first they did write each
elizabeth the first they did write each
elizabeth the first they did write each other a lot of letters and
other a lot of letters and
other a lot of letters and adding a dramatic scene in place of
adding a dramatic scene in place of
adding a dramatic scene in place of someone sitting and writing a letter
someone sitting and writing a letter
someone sitting and writing a letter which is very boring to watch um makes
which is very boring to watch um makes
which is very boring to watch um makes makes a lot of sense if you still seek
makes a lot of sense if you still seek
makes a lot of sense if you still seek my protection you would do well to watch
my protection you would do well to watch
my protection you would do well to watch your work i will not be scolded by my
your work i will not be scolded by my
your work i will not be scolded by my inferior
inferior
inferior i do like uh mary queen of scots the
i do like uh mary queen of scots the
i do like uh mary queen of scots the presentation the pride uh and the sort
presentation the pride uh and the sort
presentation the pride uh and the sort of the righteousness
of the righteousness
of the righteousness um that she is queen of england
um that she is queen of england
um that she is queen of england elizabeth's own claim as a daughter of
elizabeth's own claim as a daughter of
elizabeth's own claim as a daughter of amberlynn and henry viii
amberlynn and henry viii
amberlynn and henry viii it was questioned and questionable um
it was questioned and questionable um
it was questioned and questionable um and so mary queen scots did think she
and so mary queen scots did think she
and so mary queen scots did think she was rightful queen of england and and
was rightful queen of england and and
was rightful queen of england and and that pride she would keep making that
that pride she would keep making that
that pride she would keep making that claim even
claim even
claim even as as a prisoner of elizabeth the first
as as a prisoner of elizabeth the first
as as a prisoner of elizabeth the first and for that reason would be executed
and for that reason would be executed
and for that reason would be executed i was jealous
your bravery
your bravery your motherhood
your motherhood
your motherhood elizabeth definitely did get jealous of
elizabeth definitely did get jealous of
elizabeth definitely did get jealous of of people in in her court may have been
of people in in her court may have been
of people in in her court may have been jealous of the the representations of
jealous of the the representations of
jealous of the the representations of mary queen of scots
mary queen of scots
mary queen of scots whether she was jealous of of motherhood
whether she was jealous of of motherhood
whether she was jealous of of motherhood i think i remember in this film too
i think i remember in this film too
i think i remember in this film too there's there's a scene where she sort
there's there's a scene where she sort
there's there's a scene where she sort of
of
of puts something under her her dress or
puts something under her her dress or
puts something under her her dress or over her dress and and looks at the
over her dress and and looks at the
over her dress and and looks at the shadow of her being pregnant oh that's
shadow of her being pregnant oh that's
shadow of her being pregnant oh that's that's
that's
that's i uh maybe a bit a bit too far um if she
i uh maybe a bit a bit too far um if she
i uh maybe a bit a bit too far um if she had wanted to have children she could
had wanted to have children she could
had wanted to have children she could have married and had children um
have married and had children um
have married and had children um it
it
it very much seems her choice not to um and
very much seems her choice not to um and
very much seems her choice not to um and so her having this deprived maternal
so her having this deprived maternal
so her having this deprived maternal instinct um doesn't doesn't seem to to
instinct um doesn't doesn't seem to to
instinct um doesn't doesn't seem to to square so well accuracy rating for mary
square so well accuracy rating for mary
square so well accuracy rating for mary queen of scots um
queen of scots um
queen of scots um i think they represent really well
i think they represent really well
i think they represent really well uh the the sort of the character of each
uh the the sort of the character of each
uh the the sort of the character of each of the queens and and their motivations
of the queens and and their motivations
of the queens and and their motivations um however uh of course the meeting
um however uh of course the meeting
um however uh of course the meeting never happened um i
never happened um i
never happened um i i don't think
i don't think
i don't think i think they show elizabeth being more
i think they show elizabeth being more
i think they show elizabeth being more sympathetic
sympathetic
sympathetic to mary queen of scots especially as an
to mary queen of scots especially as an
to mary queen of scots especially as an heir then then would have been the case
heir then then would have been the case
heir then then would have been the case i'll give it about a 5.5
i'll give it about a 5.5
i'll give it about a 5.5 all right the tudors here we go
all right i'll just say before we get
all right i'll just say before we get too far in um the tudors gets a lot of
too far in um the tudors gets a lot of
too far in um the tudors gets a lot of flack
flack
flack as maybe it should however the last few
as maybe it should however the last few
as maybe it should however the last few episodes where they document the
episodes where they document the
episodes where they document the downfall of anne boleyn
downfall of anne boleyn
downfall of anne boleyn are very very close to the sources um
are very very close to the sources um
are very very close to the sources um and and i think they do a very very good
and and i think they do a very very good
and and i think they do a very very good job of uh of dealing with anne's fall
job of uh of dealing with anne's fall
job of uh of dealing with anne's fall and natalie dormer
and natalie dormer
and natalie dormer i could write a love letter to natalie
i could write a love letter to natalie
i could write a love letter to natalie dormer she was the reason in many ways
dormer she was the reason in many ways
dormer she was the reason in many ways that they stayed so close to the sources
that they stayed so close to the sources
that they stayed so close to the sources henry
henry
henry we have a very dark haired henry here
we have a very dark haired henry here
we have a very dark haired henry here obviously was a redhead he was also very
obviously was a redhead he was also very
obviously was a redhead he was also very very tall he was about six foot
very tall he was about six foot
very tall he was about six foot which meant he towered over people in
which meant he towered over people in
which meant he towered over people in the 16th century who were much much
the 16th century who were much much
the 16th century who were much much shorter than that um we lack that here
shorter than that um we lack that here
shorter than that um we lack that here with jonathan rhys meyers that sense of
with jonathan rhys meyers that sense of
with jonathan rhys meyers that sense of his his huge presence henry
his his huge presence henry
his his huge presence henry please
please
please for the love you bear our child
for the love you bear our child
for the love you bear our child all right so there's little little
all right so there's little little
all right so there's little little elizabeth um who would have been two and
elizabeth um who would have been two and
elizabeth um who would have been two and a half um at this point this is probably
a half um at this point this is probably
a half um at this point this is probably in spring 1536 um it's clearly right
in spring 1536 um it's clearly right
in spring 1536 um it's clearly right before
before
before anne's fall um this this
anne's fall um this this
anne's fall um this this almost certainly never happened
almost certainly never happened
almost certainly never happened elizabeth was at hatfield she had her
elizabeth was at hatfield she had her
elizabeth was at hatfield she had her own household
own household
own household and henry was very famous for sort of
and henry was very famous for sort of
and henry was very famous for sort of riding off and
riding off and
riding off and leaving discarded wives behind him
leaving discarded wives behind him
leaving discarded wives behind him there is however a copy of a letter that
there is however a copy of a letter that
there is however a copy of a letter that more or less follows this the same sort
more or less follows this the same sort
more or less follows this the same sort of structure of of this conversation she
of structure of of this conversation she
of structure of of this conversation she brings up elizabeth um she she swears
brings up elizabeth um she she swears
brings up elizabeth um she she swears she was always uh good to him they are
she was always uh good to him they are
she was always uh good to him they are they are making an effort to um to to
they are making an effort to um to to
they are making an effort to um to to represent the sources all right this
represent the sources all right this
represent the sources all right this clip from the tutors um the accuracy on
clip from the tutors um the accuracy on
clip from the tutors um the accuracy on it
it
it um i they are trying um there is this
um i they are trying um there is this
um i they are trying um there is this letter
letter
letter um and i think it it represents the the
um and i think it it represents the the
um and i think it it represents the the desperation of anne at this point and
desperation of anne at this point and
desperation of anne at this point and the coldness of of of henry um so i'll
the coldness of of of henry um so i'll
the coldness of of of henry um so i'll i'll give it i'll give it a six if you
i'll give it i'll give it a six if you
i'll give it i'll give it a six if you only ever watch three episodes of the
only ever watch three episodes of the
only ever watch three episodes of the tudors and maybe you should watch those
tudors and maybe you should watch those
tudors and maybe you should watch those three at the ends of season two for the
three at the ends of season two for the
three at the ends of season two for the the downfall of anne boleyn i think i
the downfall of anne boleyn i think i
the downfall of anne boleyn i think i think it's really well done elizabeth
think it's really well done elizabeth
think it's really well done elizabeth the golden age which is the second of
the golden age which is the second of
the golden age which is the second of the two films the enterprise for giving
the two films the enterprise for giving
the two films the enterprise for giving the orchestra
the orchestra
the orchestra all right already we've got elizabeth
all right already we've got elizabeth
all right already we've got elizabeth walking really really fast and men
walking really really fast and men
walking really really fast and men trying to keep up with her um which is
trying to keep up with her um which is
trying to keep up with her um which is great um and and is pretty accurate
great um and and is pretty accurate
great um and and is pretty accurate elizabeth liked walking and she liked
elizabeth liked walking and she liked
elizabeth liked walking and she liked walking fast um and so this idea that
walking fast um and so this idea that
walking fast um and so this idea that she would have a conference with an
she would have a conference with an
she would have a conference with an ambassador while walking really really
ambassador while walking really really
ambassador while walking really really fast um i think is is is pretty spot on
fast um i think is is is pretty spot on
fast um i think is is is pretty spot on mary stuart has to be set free and
mary stuart has to be set free and
mary stuart has to be set free and placed on the english throne to be
placed on the english throne to be
placed on the english throne to be assassinated
assassinated
assassinated does any of it sound familiar they're
does any of it sound familiar they're
does any of it sound familiar they're combining a couple different plots
combining a couple different plots
combining a couple different plots possibly the throckmorton plot is is
possibly the throckmorton plot is is
possibly the throckmorton plot is is here but we're also thinking about the
here but we're also thinking about the
here but we're also thinking about the spanish armada and the invasion they're
spanish armada and the invasion they're
spanish armada and the invasion they're combining a few things in in what she's
combining a few things in in what she's
combining a few things in in what she's talking about here with the enterprise
talking about here with the enterprise
talking about here with the enterprise of england it is my country that is
of england it is my country that is
of england it is my country that is under attack
your so-called parathas your pirates
your so-called parathas your pirates attack our merchant ships daily and you
attack our merchant ships daily and you
attack our merchant ships daily and you you think we don't know where the orders
you think we don't know where the orders
you think we don't know where the orders come from
come from
come from true um
true um
true um english pirates were attacking spanish
english pirates were attacking spanish
english pirates were attacking spanish ships um fairly regularly it was this
ships um fairly regularly it was this
ships um fairly regularly it was this sort of not warfare warfare that england
sort of not warfare warfare that england
sort of not warfare warfare that england was waging against the spanish the whole
was waging against the spanish the whole
was waging against the spanish the whole world knows these pirates sail up the
world knows these pirates sail up the
world knows these pirates sail up the thames all the way to your royal bed
thames all the way to your royal bed
thames all the way to your royal bed yeah don't you would
yeah don't you would
yeah don't you would wouldn't say that definitely didn't say
wouldn't say that definitely didn't say
wouldn't say that definitely didn't say that wouldn't yeah don't don't say that
that wouldn't yeah don't don't say that
that wouldn't yeah don't don't say that they've essentially replaced robert
they've essentially replaced robert
they've essentially replaced robert dudley with walter raleigh in this film
dudley with walter raleigh in this film
dudley with walter raleigh in this film um but robert was extremely important at
um but robert was extremely important at
um but robert was extremely important at this time in the 1580s he had been sent
this time in the 1580s he had been sent
this time in the 1580s he had been sent to fight the spanish uh in the
to fight the spanish uh in the
to fight the spanish uh in the netherlands during the dutch revolt um
netherlands during the dutch revolt um
netherlands during the dutch revolt um so he had been
so he had been
so he had been angering the spanish quite a bit and of
angering the spanish quite a bit and of
angering the spanish quite a bit and of course uh was rumored to be a um a
course uh was rumored to be a um a
course uh was rumored to be a um a paramore lover of elizabeth the first so
paramore lover of elizabeth the first so
paramore lover of elizabeth the first so that's
that's
that's it where i think they're combining uh
it where i think they're combining uh
it where i think they're combining uh raleigh and and dudley in this um and
raleigh and and dudley in this um and
raleigh and and dudley in this um and that's the sort of slant of mendoza's
that's the sort of slant of mendoza's
that's the sort of slant of mendoza's accusation
don't peeve off kate blanchett
don't peeve off kate blanchett don't do it we'll leave my presents sir
go back to your rattle spain is a very
go back to your rattle spain is a very nice place
nice place
nice place [Music]
i love cate blanchett as elizabeth
i love cate blanchett as elizabeth fantastic
fantastic
fantastic also i think a reference to the fact
also i think a reference to the fact
also i think a reference to the fact that it is the wind which essentially
that it is the wind which essentially
that it is the wind which essentially destroys the spanish armada and and
destroys the spanish armada and and
destroys the spanish armada and and forces them away from england and she
forces them away from england and she
forces them away from england and she never said anything like that but i
never said anything like that but i
never said anything like that but i don't care um it's awesome and um i
don't care um it's awesome and um i
don't care um it's awesome and um i would can we watch it again
would can we watch it again
would can we watch it again but i've got to knock them down for
but i've got to knock them down for
but i've got to knock them down for getting rid of robert dudley that's a
getting rid of robert dudley that's a
getting rid of robert dudley that's a big no-no in my books um so i'll give it
big no-no in my books um so i'll give it
big no-no in my books um so i'll give it i'll i'll give it a five no i like
i'll i'll give it a five no i like
i'll i'll give it a five no i like campbell and chat i'll give it a 5.6
campbell and chat i'll give it a 5.6
campbell and chat i'll give it a 5.6 shakespeare in
shakespeare in
shakespeare in [Music]
[Music]
[Music] [Applause]
i rescue love the name of queen
i rescue love the name of queen elizabeth
elizabeth
elizabeth i'll rest
i'll rest
i'll rest who
who
who mr tilney all right so uh this is i
mr tilney all right so uh this is i
mr tilney all right so uh this is i think filmed at the globe in london
think filmed at the globe in london
think filmed at the globe in london sorry i can't get over um ben affleck in
sorry i can't get over um ben affleck in
sorry i can't get over um ben affleck in the background of this um looking
the background of this um looking
the background of this um looking looking very very upset uh this is at
looking very very upset uh this is at
looking very very upset uh this is at the end of a performance of romeo and
the end of a performance of romeo and
the end of a performance of romeo and juliet romeo and juliet was a play uh
juliet romeo and juliet was a play uh
juliet romeo and juliet was a play uh probably written in the early 1590s
probably written in the early 1590s
probably written in the early 1590s maybe late 1580s so certainly of of
maybe late 1580s so certainly of of
maybe late 1580s so certainly of of elizabeth's period this i think is is
elizabeth's period this i think is is
elizabeth's period this i think is is going to be mr
going to be mr
going to be mr sir edmund tilney i'll just play a
sir edmund tilney i'll just play a
sir edmund tilney i'll just play a little bit that woman is a woman
little bit that woman is a woman
little bit that woman is a woman why a woman you mean that goat
why a woman you mean that goat
why a woman you mean that goat [Music]
[Music]
[Music] can we just have a moment for a ben
can we just have a moment for a ben
can we just have a moment for a ben affleck's english accent um
affleck's english accent um
affleck's english accent um a woman on stage um was was illegal in
a woman on stage um was was illegal in
a woman on stage um was was illegal in uh the the tudor period it was illegal
uh the the tudor period it was illegal
uh the the tudor period it was illegal up until
up until
up until 1661. the uh gentleman with a fantastic
1661. the uh gentleman with a fantastic
1661. the uh gentleman with a fantastic drop earring um is i believe meant to be
drop earring um is i believe meant to be
drop earring um is i believe meant to be sir edmund tilney who is the master of
sir edmund tilney who is the master of
sir edmund tilney who is the master of the rebels was originally his job to put
the rebels was originally his job to put
the rebels was originally his job to put on court performances master of the
on court performances master of the
on court performances master of the rebels he was supposed to create revelry
rebels he was supposed to create revelry
rebels he was supposed to create revelry but he takes the job and and turns it
but he takes the job and and turns it
but he takes the job and and turns it more into censorship
more into censorship
more into censorship and he certainly censored some of
and he certainly censored some of
and he certainly censored some of shakespeare's plays the deposition scene
shakespeare's plays the deposition scene
shakespeare's plays the deposition scene in richard ii for instance and so here
in richard ii for instance and so here
in richard ii for instance and so here he's stormed the stage in order to uh
he's stormed the stage in order to uh
he's stormed the stage in order to uh arrest everyone apparently um because
arrest everyone apparently um because
arrest everyone apparently um because there is a genuine woman on stage i'll
there is a genuine woman on stage i'll
there is a genuine woman on stage i'll see you all in kink
see you all in kink
see you all in kink in the name of her majesty queen
in the name of her majesty queen
in the name of her majesty queen elizabeth the clink is a place um in
elizabeth the clink is a place um in
elizabeth the clink is a place um in elizabethan england it is a prison that
elizabethan england it is a prison that
elizabethan england it is a prison that then becomes a word for all prisons the
then becomes a word for all prisons the
then becomes a word for all prisons the clink mister kill me
have a care with my name you will wear
have a care with my name you will wear it out so jeffrey rush in this one as
it out so jeffrey rush in this one as
it out so jeffrey rush in this one as well he had been wallsingham in
well he had been wallsingham in
well he had been wallsingham in elizabeth um we've seen many of the
elizabeth um we've seen many of the
elizabeth um we've seen many of the actors um we're gonna see joseph fines
actors um we're gonna see joseph fines
actors um we're gonna see joseph fines in a second who is not robert dudley
in a second who is not robert dudley
in a second who is not robert dudley he's william shakespeare it gets very
he's william shakespeare it gets very
he's william shakespeare it gets very confusing if you watch these in
confusing if you watch these in
confusing if you watch these in succession if only lord wessex were here
succession if only lord wessex were here
succession if only lord wessex were here all right uh lord wessex um colin firth
all right uh lord wessex um colin firth
all right uh lord wessex um colin firth there was no lord wessex uh in
there was no lord wessex uh in
there was no lord wessex uh in elizabethan england there hadn't been a
elizabethan england there hadn't been a
elizabethan england there hadn't been a lord wessex since the 11th century um
lord wessex since the 11th century um
lord wessex since the 11th century um somewhere around there um there is
somewhere around there um there is
somewhere around there um there is however a lord wessex now um he is
however a lord wessex now um he is
however a lord wessex now um he is edward the youngest son of elizabeth ii
edward the youngest son of elizabeth ii
edward the youngest son of elizabeth ii who is who is earl of wessex what's very
who is who is earl of wessex what's very
who is who is earl of wessex what's very interesting is that part of the reason
interesting is that part of the reason
interesting is that part of the reason that edward took the title of lord
that edward took the title of lord
that edward took the title of lord wessex apparently is that he saw this
wessex apparently is that he saw this
wessex apparently is that he saw this film and thought it was a great title
film and thought it was a great title
film and thought it was a great title and so the reason that we have a lord
and so the reason that we have a lord
and so the reason that we have a lord wessex again is because of this film um
wessex again is because of this film um
wessex again is because of this film um so history impacts cinema cinema impacts
so history impacts cinema cinema impacts
so history impacts cinema cinema impacts history i i think there's there's some
history i i think there's there's some
history i i think there's there's some truth to the time
truth to the time
truth to the time that's that's that's in it um so
that's that's that's in it um so
that's that's that's in it um so we'll we'll give it we'll give it a four
we'll we'll give it we'll give it a four
we'll we'll give it we'll give it a four that which seems mean but it's it's a
that which seems mean but it's it's a
that which seems mean but it's it's a great film um i may go watch it again
great film um i may go watch it again
great film um i may go watch it again this evening speaking of historical
this evening speaking of historical
this evening speaking of historical inaccuracies
inaccuracies
inaccuracies we're going to watch the other berlin
we're going to watch the other berlin
we're going to watch the other berlin girl now
girl now
girl now first question though do i have to do i
first question though do i have to do i
first question though do i have to do i actually do i actually have to yes all
actually do i actually have to yes all
actually do i actually have to yes all right i'll see the truth will be out
right i'll see the truth will be out
right i'll see the truth will be out i cannot beat you
i cannot beat you
i cannot beat you you have me burned
you have me burned
you have me burned as a witch all right first off um
as a witch all right first off um
as a witch all right first off um she
she
she the witchcraft thing later rumor um she
the witchcraft thing later rumor um she
the witchcraft thing later rumor um she wasn't executed for being a witch um and
wasn't executed for being a witch um and
wasn't executed for being a witch um and the idea that
the idea that
the idea that her inability to produce a child would
her inability to produce a child would
her inability to produce a child would have anything to do with a witchcraft
have anything to do with a witchcraft
have anything to do with a witchcraft accusation
accusation
accusation just completely doesn't doesn't make
just completely doesn't doesn't make
just completely doesn't doesn't make sense i think the other berlin girl too
sense i think the other berlin girl too
sense i think the other berlin girl too is is very interesting
is is very interesting
is is very interesting because it speaks to that sort of dual
because it speaks to that sort of dual
because it speaks to that sort of dual presentation that we see of women of you
presentation that we see of women of you
presentation that we see of women of you have one who's um
have one who's um
have one who's um the and one who's the sort of
the and one who's the sort of
the and one who's the sort of virgin madonna
virgin madonna
virgin madonna type presentation which is probably why
type presentation which is probably why
type presentation which is probably why mary belin is often represented as
mary belin is often represented as
mary belin is often represented as blonde as is in contrast to the sort of
blonde as is in contrast to the sort of
blonde as is in contrast to the sort of morally darker
morally darker
morally darker uh and and bolin
must i spell it out okay another moment
must i spell it out okay another moment for uh hilarious english accents um
for uh hilarious english accents um
for uh hilarious english accents um natalie portman
natalie portman
natalie portman but lying with another man would be
but lying with another man would be
but lying with another man would be treason
treason
treason true
[Music]
[Music] stupid
stupid
stupid yeah do stop it so this this they
yeah do stop it so this this they
yeah do stop it so this this they they pursue
they pursue
they pursue the
the
the suggestion
suggestion
suggestion that um anne committed adultery with her
that um anne committed adultery with her
that um anne committed adultery with her brother um this was something that she
brother um this was something that she
brother um this was something that she was convicted but both of them were
was convicted but both of them were
was convicted but both of them were convicted of of and executed for
convicted of of and executed for
convicted of of and executed for entirely trumped up charges um but here
entirely trumped up charges um but here
entirely trumped up charges um but here they're exploring the possibility that
they're exploring the possibility that
they're exploring the possibility that it would have been considered as a way
it would have been considered as a way
it would have been considered as a way to get and pregnant
to get and pregnant
to get and pregnant without involving someone outside the
without involving someone outside the
without involving someone outside the family this is the definition of keeping
family this is the definition of keeping
family this is the definition of keeping it in the family
it in the family
it in the family and it's madness it's also really gross
and it's madness it's also really gross
and it's madness it's also really gross no don't you see you're my only i can't
no don't you see you're my only i can't
no don't you see you're my only i can't listen anymore it's monster mary no come
listen anymore it's monster mary no come
listen anymore it's monster mary no come join george please
join george please
join george please my life depends on it
my life depends on it
my life depends on it would have been way more concerned about
would have been way more concerned about
would have been way more concerned about her soul um and was very very religious
her soul um and was very very religious
her soul um and was very very religious uh
uh
uh committing adultery bad committing
committing adultery bad committing
committing adultery bad committing incest really really bad so would would
incest really really bad so would would
incest really really bad so would would not have crossed her mind and the fact
not have crossed her mind and the fact
not have crossed her mind and the fact that it was brought as a charge against
that it was brought as a charge against
that it was brought as a charge against her is is one of those historical
her is is one of those historical
her is is one of those historical realities that is difficult to explain
realities that is difficult to explain
realities that is difficult to explain that it would have even been thought of
that it would have even been thought of
that it would have even been thought of that she would have done this
because yeah get out of there
because yeah get out of there [Music]
all right we've got juno temple playing
all right we've got juno temple playing jane parker here jane parker george
jane parker here jane parker george
jane parker here jane parker george bolin's wife has often been thought of
bolin's wife has often been thought of
bolin's wife has often been thought of as someone who reported on ann and
as someone who reported on ann and
as someone who reported on ann and george that that she's the reason that
george that that she's the reason that
george that that she's the reason that people thought um that they were
people thought um that they were
people thought um that they were committing incest there's no actual
committing incest there's no actual
committing incest there's no actual contemporary evidence for that that's
contemporary evidence for that that's
contemporary evidence for that that's something that comes about as an
something that comes about as an
something that comes about as an accusation much later when she is
accusation much later when she is
accusation much later when she is actually involved in the affairs of a
actually involved in the affairs of a
actually involved in the affairs of a later queen catherine howard and she is
later queen catherine howard and she is
later queen catherine howard and she is executed for that so everybody in this
executed for that so everybody in this
executed for that so everybody in this room ends up ends up executed it's a bad
room ends up ends up executed it's a bad
room ends up ends up executed it's a bad room to be in
room to be in
room to be in good on mary belin for leaving
okay good so yeah they they don't they
okay good so yeah they they don't they don't go through with it it's all fine
don't go through with it it's all fine
don't go through with it it's all fine the other berlin girl is also the
the other berlin girl is also the
the other berlin girl is also the sort of the worst example of that anne
sort of the worst example of that anne
sort of the worst example of that anne boleyn who tempts but with holds
boleyn who tempts but with holds
boleyn who tempts but with holds it would just be great if we could we
it would just be great if we could we
it would just be great if we could we could get past that representation so um
could get past that representation so um
could get past that representation so um so we can have a two thank you for
so we can have a two thank you for
so we can have a two thank you for watching you can get my book the house
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