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The content details a public confrontation and eventual agreement for a live-streamed discussion between Candace Owens and Turning Point USA (TPUSA) regarding allegations surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination. Owens has been vocal with numerous questions and accusations, while TPUSA, after initial silence, has accepted a challenge to address these claims publicly.
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All
right, you guys. It's happening. It's
[snorts] happening. Everybody stay calm.
After yesterday's episode where we went
kind of for the juggler with Turning
Point USA because really I think
everybody in the entire world has had
enough with the nonresponse, trying to
move on, trying to gaslight us on
answering basic details. So, we just
went for it. And guess what? Turning
Point has moved to formally respond to
all the things that we have said. And
after a very long diet tribe in which
they wildly misrepresent the public and
global investigation of Charlie Kirch's
assassination, they at long last issued
a public invitation or a challenge. I'm
not sure what it is, but I accept. Okay.
Quite literally, all we have ever asked
for were sensible answers to our basic
questions about what transpired on
September 10th. And it looks like we're
going to get those things. So major
major win. I'm excited. Also later on in
the show, what I have for you is The
Game, whose rapper is releasing a song
that is entitled The Assassination of
Candace Owens. And I have more
questions. I've got questions. Am I
allowed to have questions? Welcome back
What can I say other than we went max
pause, reflect. I'm proud of everybody.
I'm proud of the world. every single
person who was in my inbox giving me
tips, the people inside of Turning Point
USA who were leaking, the donors that
wrote public letters, the donors that
didn't write public letters but sent us
messages encouraging us to keep going.
Today feels like a win because guess
what? It forced Turning Point USA to
finally respond. And that was the entire
point. Okay, that has been the point of
refusing to let up even one second in
this investigation. They wanted to
simply be able to eulogize Charlie Kirk
at a big memorial event and then they
wanted us to simply move on and we
didn't do that. Okay. So yeah, we should
celebrate the fact that we kept up the
pressure that we insisted that we have
answers that even in this tremendous
culture of ADHD and everyone's
constantly being distracted by their
iPhones that we kept the focus. Okay.
Turning Point is going going to commit
to a livereamed event where they are
apparently going to answer all of these
lingering questions. And I would say
these were pretty basic questions right
out of the gate. Why they didn't do that
right out of the gate, nobody knows. We
can hear them uh their explanation for
why they didn't in just a moment uh
because they sent Blake Nef out. Blake
Nef, by the way, is the producer of the
Charlie Kirk show. Now, he is kind of
the rotating talent of the Charlie Kirk
show. He was already featured with
Charlie on the show, so that's not
unusual. But I think we probably
anticipated that Andrew Kulvette, who is
the TPUSA spokesperson, would have been
the person to deliver this message.
Maybe in theory that should have been
his job. Maybe he's traveling. The point
is, we got Blake Nef. And I want to say,
just to reiterate that I have always
maintained that whatever is going on at
Turning Point USA, I have not felt that
Blake Nef is one of the bad guys. Okay?
I just have never gotten that particular
vibe from him. I believe that when he
speaks, he believes that he is telling
the truth. And maybe that's why they
want him in front of the camera. He's
been the only person that has been
responding in a way that feels even
remotely authentic when he defends the
actions of Mikey McCoy on that day. I I
sense that he believes that he is
telling the truth. Anyways, let's listen
to what Blake Nef had to say in its
entirety. It's not going to feel
organic. Obviously, he's reading from a
piece of paper. This has probably been
been reviewed 12 times by many different
lawyers because that's how it works at
big organizations and companies. But um
I don't fault him that. We'll pause at
certain moments because I do want to be
able to respond throughout it. It's a
bit long, but I want to give them my
platform as I always have made that
offer to. So here is Blake Nef. Ever
since Charlie's murder, Candace Owens
has leveled a flood of allegations
against people at Turning Point USA,
people at Turning Point Action, and
people who work for this show. She has
made them against some of Charlie's
closest friends, and against some of his
most dedicated employees. >> Yes,
>> Yes,
>> she has suggested that Michael McCoy,
Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie
would be murdered, was happy that he
died, and stayed silent because he was
told he would be the next Charlie. She
has suggested Michael is not his real
name. It is I have seen his birth
certificate myself. She has called it
suspicious that Mikey's wife who works
at Turning Point helped plan the campus
tour event where Charlie was murdered
which she didn't by the way. She doesn't
work on campus events.
>> Okay. So, first and foremost, I actually
never said that she helped plan the
event. I said it was suspicious that
Mikey McCoy's wife um that we never
found out who did plan the event. That
we want that was one of the answers that
we wanted to know. Uh, and I said that
she works in events. Still was not clear
on what happened regarding Mikey McCoy.
I think the entire world believes that
his actions are suspicious. Uh, because
we have eyes and you don't get to wiggle
out of that by pretending that us
playing the words of his own father, Rob
McCoy, who I think is highly suspicious
in all of this. He has a suspicious
background. Uh, we played his own words
as he tried to sanitize someone who
spent time in prison for being a sexual
deviant, right, for trying to take
photos of uh, young girls. I I don't
think he's a good guy. And you're not
going to make us forget those things
because you are trying to pretend that
Mikey's actions were totally normal that
day. They weren't. That's why I I didn't
make the public feel that way. Okay. Um,
I may have voiced how they felt, which
everyone else is refusing to do, but I
do believe that Mikey McCoy should have
to answer for who he had on the phone
right when the shot went off. So, yeah,
his father, his own father is the one
that spoke about Charlie's notebooks and
spoke about how Mikey McCoy was
talented. And it was Mikey McCoy who
then jumped on Liberty University's
stage for an event that was scheduled
for Charlie Kirk. So there you go.
That's our perspective and I'm going to
stand by it. Let's keep it rolling.
>> Candace has suggested the Utah Valley
University event was unusual and its
details suggested a quote inside job.
>> It was unusual. That's a fact. And you
can quote me on that because I worked
for Turning Point USA and I went on
every uh tour, every tour since 2019.
And typically those events are decided
at least the semester before. This came
together very quickly. It is unusual and
I don't know why you think that you are
going to be able to disprove that notion
when I have the emails to support that
claim. Let's keep it rolling. She has
claimed that foreign aircraft have
followed Erica Kirk around the country
and that Turning Point has lied about
this happening.
>> Definitely never said Turning Point lied
because you never responded. So that
doesn't actually make any sense. And
this is why it's not good to have
lawyers write things out because
sometimes they're not so detail
oriented. Uh what we did was we showed
at first that when I plotted these
strange Egyptian jets that they were
following Charlie and that was a concern
because I wondered if they were tracking
Charlie. We then obviously realized that
they were tracking TPUSA faith events
and that many more times uh they were
following and perhaps tracking Erica.
You should be concerned about that. We
find it odd that rather than being
concerned or trying to get answers to
why a foreign military jet would be on
the ground during a time when Charlie
Kirk was assassinated, you're upset with
us for asking questions about these
jets. Let's keep rolling.
>> She has accused us of lying about
Charlie wanting Erica to take over for
him if he died.
>> Never happened. That is not a quotation.
That is just them saying that. Uh so
let's keep rolling.
>> She has suggested Charlie's security
team intentionally denied him first aid
after the shooting to ensure that he died.
died.
>> When you say suggested, it means that
they are interpreting my words. What I
said is another fact. They did not issue
him first aid when he fell down. There
was nobody who pulled out um any gauze
and tried to stop the bleeding. and
they've admitted to that. In a sitdown
with Shawn Ryan, Brian Harpole said it
was because of the severity of the
injury. I'm sorry again that we noticed
something that stood out as unusual uh
given the expertise and the amount of
money that he was paying that uh
supposed to be uh an elite team. Let's
keep rolling.
>> She has raised suspicions about the head
of our technical team because he took an
SD card out of a camera. She has spread
absurd claims that Tyler Ber, who we
just had on the show, sexually abuses
male interns.
>> Okay, so yes, the SD card thing is
unbelievably suspicious. It's not
something that you would do. Neither
would you just run up onto a grassy null
and record yourself. Again, these are
unusual actions. And rather than trying
to pretend like it's normal to record a
selfie video of yourself and to
prematurely announce that somebody is
dead, maybe you should answer why all of
that took place because you guys told
lies about verifiable lies about why
that took place. Because don't forget,
Andrew Kovette sat next to you and said
it was because people were stealing.
People were stealing. you probably would
want to grab the very expensive cameras
and not the SD card for an event that
was being livereamed. Regarding Tyler
Ber, I'm so glad we're going to do this
live streamed because I'm happy to
present to you the exact name of the
intern. And I didn't say that he abused
him. I didn't say it was not consensual.
I said that he likes younger boys. I
don't mean like younger as in they're
not of the legal age. I'm just saying
they're a lot younger than him. And
yeah, I can give you the exact name of
the intern that he hooked up with. That
person was not at Turning Point USA. Uh,
but I can also give you more than that
as well as people that are currently um
working for Turning Point USA who said
that Tyler Boyer and these are young men
tried to hook up with them after um uh
some events. So, I'm glad we're going to
live stream that. Keep going. She has
suggested that TPUSA faith affiliated
pastors like theologian Frank Turk, who
we'll have on in a moment, and pastor
Rob McCoy, are part of a military quote
infiltration of Turning Point, either
because they are veterans or because
they have family members who are.
>> Yeah. So, I do believe the Calvary
Chapel uh their history with Chuck
Smith, the evidence that it was a
militant CIA effort to infiltrate the
Christian faith uh and to tie the
Christian faith to the political
ideology of Zionism. I think there's a
lot of evidence for that and I'm happy
to discuss that in a broader debate. I
do think that things at Turning Point
USA uh became a bit problematic when you
started to, I would say, almost hijack
genuine Christian faith and sort of roll
it into this idea that you must support
Israel in order to be a Christian.
that's kind of floating into more
opinion, but I think well backed by the
facts of the founding of the Calvary
Chapel Church during uh the decade of
the 60s where the CIA was really just
spiking the ball on Christians in
general. Let's keep going.
Even if not everyone has been named
specifically though, Candace has
effectively tarred everyone here with
complicity in Charlie's death by
repeatedly saying he was quote betrayed
by quote everyone.
>> Sorry, that was a dream that I had. And
it is also a a realization that it has
been months people at Turning Point USA
are in possession of text messages and
the day before Charlie died in which he
wrote out to you and not just to people
that work at Turning Point USA but also
security guards that he thought that
they were going to kill him tomorrow
explicitly. I find it highly unusual uh
that you wouldn't share that information
at all or that you would sit by and be
quiet or at some some points attack
people that are trying to explore who
they is because I don't think anybody
believes that Charlie thought that a
trans furry kid who had never been on
UVU's campus was going to kill him
tomorrow. And your silence during
moments when people are lying, like Josh
Hammer when he said, "Hey, this never
happened. Charlie never blinked on
Israel." Makes you all look very, very
suspicious. Lies are only necessary.
Okay. When you are covering something
and if you are covering the truth, you
are betraying Charlie. So, I stand by
that. Let's keep going. She has said
Charlie's murder quote had to be
approved by Charlie's friends and then
suggested those friends might have her
murdered too for quote knowing the
truth. So you notice that's a little
that's like a snopes tactic when he says
the quote it's actually not a full
quotation. I never said that obviously
in the context that he put it in uh that
Charlie's friends quote had to know he
was going to be murdered. that did I say
the sentence had to know he was going to
be murdered perhaps but we're going to
need to hear the full sentence because
you're trying to context it in a way
that is just um just untrue and I don't
think it's necessary if you're willing
to have a conversation that you need to
lie about anything that I've said people
have watched the show they know exactly
what I've said and I I tend to stand by
what I've said and I do stand by
everything that I've said keep going
>> she has made claims of financial
impropriy and fraud at turning point
adding up into the millions of dollars
which again is not true. Charlie made
sure the organization was audited by a
third party every year. He personally
reviewed and he signed off on every
expense report and literally every
single bill paid by the organization
down to a single United States dollar.
We have never missed a 990 deadline.
>> Okay. So immorality like financial
impropriy does not necessarily mean that
you committed true financial fraud.
There's definitely financial impropriety
at the company. I would say that if you
are representing yourself as a charity
and what you're actually doing is
evaporating millions of dollars into
various LLC's
uh that have your name on it. That would
be financial impropriety, right? Like
you could say, "I'm a contractor. I'm
this LLC. I'm that LLC. I'm not doing
anything illegal, but it's it's
inappropriate. It's improper. Um, most
people are not able to read those forms
and won't understand what's happening to
the the $80 million. And I think that
those questions are of course valid and
that you guys should have no issues
answering them. Um, I am struck by the
fact that you're still trying to
conflate an annual audit with Charlie's
explicit request to put together a Doge
department 7 days before he died. These
are not the same. You know, they're not
the same. I know they're not the same.
Okay, everyone knows that Doge is not
the same as the audits that are required
for 501c3s,
um, conducting an internal audit. And
having you still misrepresent that makes
us uncomfortable. address the Doge.
That's got nothing to do with anything
other than Charlie, right? Charlie felt
that this needed to happen and inside
sources at your own company say it was
because he didn't know where the money
was coming from or how quickly and where
exactly the money was being evaporated
to. That passes the vibe check in terms
of what Doge is about because of course
Charlie could not have been establishing
Doge for the last 5 years because that's
a very new concept as of 2025. Something
that Trump put into place with Elon Musk
and Vic Ramos Swami, right? So yeah,
you're still being dishonest, but carry on.
on.
>> Candace has made other stranger
allegations involving French
paratroopers in maroon shirts. uh
Egyptian Air Force planes flying out of
Provo, Utah, and potential underground
assassins traveling through unseen
tunnels. At this at one point in early
November, she started wildly throwing
suspicion on members of Utah Valley's
soccer team for wearing hoodies. I could
go on. There is always something new
coming up and none of it ever pans out
because from the start, there has been
nothing there. Okay. So, no, no matter
how many times you keep pretending
there's nothing there with the Egyptian
planes, the whole internet understands
that there's something there with the
Egyptian planes, especially because you
keep pretending like it's not weird.
Like, you're just like, "It's not weird.
No, this is normal. It's totally fine
that these Egyptian planes uh and also,
by the way, today it broke that like the
Saudi king was this plane at some point,
2023. We'll get to that later." And you
guys are like, "This is totally normal.
This is just what happens at UVU. People
just lay over into Wilmington, do
things. It's It's just so foolish. You
guys have got to stop the gaslighting if
you think your organization is going to
survive. I mean, some of that stuff is
just untrue. Saying that I went after
somebody for wearing a green hoodie is
not true at all. We never even covered
the green hoodie people on this show. I
shared a picture when somebody asked for
a picture because they were trying to
investigate and identify everyone who
was there, which is valid. And the
person wearing the green hoodie was not
even upset about it. He responded. So
that has nothing to do with me
whatsoever. And by the way, it would
probably feel better to the public if
you guys were the ones that were asking
questions about who was there on that
day. I completely stand by what I said
about the people that are wearing maroon
shirts. They are going to I will
guarantee you represent a military unit
somewhere. I'm very close to figuring
out exactly which military unit that
was. Again, trying to gaslight us and
pretend we're conspiracy theorists or
like that's stupid. Uh, not a good
long-term strategy for Turning Point
USA. Carry on.
>> The attacks and allegations from Candace
are either lies or they are innuendos
thrown around with a total reckless
disregard for the truth so that Candace
can manipulate and string along an
audience of people who don't realize
they are being played. Instead of being
able to grieve properly after one of the
most heinous murders in American
history, a murder many of us had to
witness, my friends have had to endure
harassment from people who have gotten
whipped up by what Candace is saying. In
fact, I would say we have suffered more
harassment from these people than we
have from Antifa supporters who overtly
celebrate Charlie's murder. And just
like a lot of those Antifa members, many
of these people take this delight in how
gross and unpleasant they can be. What
our friends have had to endure is not
funny and it's not insignificant. It is
evil. I have seen it.
>> Okay. Conflating people that are trying
to figure out who murdered Charlie Kirk
with like Antifa is actually objectively
funny. That's an unforced error. They
should not have included that in the
statement. Somebody in that room was
like, "Should we say that? Should we
not?" And somebody said, "No, we
shouldn't say that." and then you
somebody else in the room said no we
should let's keep it in that second
person was wrong that should have been
struck from the statement. It's very
silly. Okay, it's very silly to attack
your own audiences who are concerned and
your own donors who are concerned and
say you're Antifa if you don't accept
this absurd fed slop. If you're not
going to drink the fed slop, then you
are Antifa. Just not a good idea
whatsoever. Okay, that is not what's
happening here. You are not the victim.
Charlie is actually he's dead. And to
pretend like you are too agrieved to be
able to answer the questions makes
entirely no sense. Obviously, if you
were actually under a real amount of
stress, if you actually were deeply
upset that people had you on a list of
suspects or thought that you were
suspicious, you would just clarify
things instantly, immediately. It's so
easy. It's free. If someone said,
"Kenneth, what were you doing when
Charlie Kirk was shot?" I'd be like, I
was sitting down at my table prepping my
show. Like, the question doesn't offend
me because I had nothing to do with
Charlie dying. Okay, this is a
psychological technique that is failing.
It is failing for you. And you're upset
because you thought that with time, with
the passage of time, people would let
the story go and they didn't. And these
reasons that he's about to list for why
they didn't respond and answer any
questions are beyond ridiculous. Let's
take a listen.
For months, we have received hundreds,
thousands, I suspect, emails and calls
asking us to respond.
>> People have wanted us
>> to invite Candace on the show. But for a
long time, our approach was to say
nothing. We did that for several
reasons. First, we've first, we thought
that her prearications were so absurd
that nobody would believe them. we
shouldn't have to answer questions about
secret tunnels or Egyptian Air Force
planes. That sort of thing is just it's
beneath contempt to respond to. The
second reason we've said so little
though is because there's a good rule of
thumb which Charlie followed. Do not
feed the trolls. Focus on the mission.
Reviving America, uplifting young
people, making heaven crowded. Don't
give air to people who want to tear you
down. And so Discord. Lastly, we didn't
respond because
Charlie always viewed Candace as a
friend and we were holding out hope that
she would return that friendship and
stop what she was doing.
Okay, so the first thing he says there
is we didn't respond because it's
beneath us. Like that's just not the
right. I mean that is an elitist
attitude. It is beneath us to respond to
the very people who showed up in scores
because they were so moved by Charlie's
assassination that they all poured into
the Staples Center, right, and poured
their tears out and made videos and
donated. It is beneath us to not to then
respond to questions that you have that
are meaningful because we just think
it's so stupid that you would suggest
that the feds are involved in an
assassination. That's never happened in
American history. What? What? So that's
that's a ridiculous thing. The second
thing he says there is Charlie always
said, "Don't feed the trolls." Well,
that flies into the face of what he says
thereafter where he says Candace and
Charlie were friends. So I'm not a
troll. Okay? I'm not a troll. I'm not
trolling. I'm not someone who's hated
Turning Point and wanted Turning Point
to fail. I'm actually the exact opposite
of that. And that's why the people
believe in me and they trust me because
they feel that I'm the only one that's
acting right in the situation. Who
wouldn't want to have every stone
unturned if they cared about somebody?
Who wouldn't want to have every question
answered? Who wouldn't be immediately
suspicious to see Egyptian military
jets? Who wouldn't go, "Why the hell
were these jets around Turning Point way
before years before Charlie's
assassination? Who is on these jets?"
Instead, you're mentioning the Egyptian
planes for the fourth time. So, I would
like to recommit everybody that is
watching this to figuring out what the
hell is going on with these Egyptian
planes because they're nervous about
them. Okay, they're mentioned so many
times they're trying to give the vibe
that this is so crazy. No, they are
fearful. The Egyptian planes hold the
key and that is obvious even in Blake
Nef's statement. But yeah, I am not a
troll. Okay? And people followed what
felt to them as authenticity and it was
not you. They were not getting that from
Charlie's closest friends. Why is that?
They weren't getting that from Charlie's
most loved pastors. Why is that? Don't
blame me for the bad energy that you
exuded. Okay? Don't blame me for the
fact that you didn't pass the gut check
with the public. That's why you're doing
this. Okay? That is why you are doing
this because your strategy failed. In
fact, this is your old school turning
point before they put on the faith
pants. This is your old school turning
point lesson and what the free markets
are. The free markets saw what you were
offering. All right. And they saw what
what I was offering. You were offering
we should accept this and move on. And I
was saying we need to investigate this.
And the free markets said no to Turning
Point USA. Anyways, um let him let him
take this away in terms of what he
thought I guess was the best way to be a
friend to Charlie Kirk. What did he
think was the best way for them to show
that they were friends with Charlie
Kirk? Keep going, Blake.
>> But a week from now, it's going to be 3
months since Charlie's murder. Candace
has not changed her behavior. She has
continued to spread falsehoods about
Charlie's friends, and she continues to
concoct new ones about new people. She's
using these falsehoods to enrich herself
while dividing the conservative movement
at an absolutely critical time for this country.
I have to applaud that audacity. I have
to applaud it. You do. You have to
applaud it.
These Excuse me here, but like I'm
trying not to swear. [laughter]
These men, okay, this this company,
these amazing lads over here have the
audacity to accuse me of enriching
myself when they were out there selling
t-shirts. Okay. of what Charlie died in
to enrich themselves. Were they giving
those t-shirts away for free at the
staple centers? No, they were selling
kit of what Charlie died in to the tune
of 80 million plus dollars that they
made in the first three weeks. Okay?
They made their entire budget for the
year in the first couple of weeks
following Charlie's assassination. And
they are attacking me with zero proof
that I made a single dollar off of
Charlie's assassination. I did not sell
a cup. I did not sell a mug, okay? All I
did was do what I already do for a
living, okay? I podcast and I
investigate things. I investigate things
that I feel passionate about. Sometimes
it's Camala's genealogy when she's
saying she wants to be the president and
things aren't making sense and I sense
that she is lying. Sometimes it's Blake
Lively and Ryan Reynolds when they try
to destroy a man's life who's not even
on my quote unquote political team.
Sometimes it's Breijgit and why we are
colluding uh with nations to cover the
obvious fact that Breijgit was born a
male. And this time it's personal and
it's you. Do you want to know what all
of these investigations have in common?
liars who lie and think that the public
is too stupid to see through their lies.
That is how we got into this. Okay? I
did not sell anything. You did that. You
guys did that. You guys continued to do
that. You guys wanted to just move on
and to grift off of Charlie's legacy. I
dedicated myself to figuring out who
murdered him. So anyways, uh he does get
to the point here, which is that they
are willing to finally address things
headon. So I will let Blake say that.
And far too often we here have heard
from ordinary people, people who loved
Charlie and who Charlie loved so much in
return. These people have expressed the
worry that we are staying silent out of
cowardice or as some sort of tacit
admission that some of the attacks are
true. Neither is the case. Our silence
has never been and it will never be
equal to complacency or approval. Still,
we decided Charlie would not allow this
to go on. Charlie was not a coward.
Charlie was a fighter. Charlie would not
allow someone to spread lies about the
people closest to him with impunity. And
he would feel ashamed if other people
were stepping up to defend his friends
while he never did so himself.
Candace has mentioned several times that
the ball is in our court. So, here's
what is going to happen in the near
future. There will be a live stream here
in Phoenix where we address in a clear
and comprehensive way the claims and
accusations, the false accusations that
have been made against Charlie's family,
friends, and the people here at Turning
Point. We plan to walk through
everything carefully and thoroughly. If
Candace is available, we would sincerely
welcome her participation in that live
stream at our studio here in Phoenix. At
this point, we believe the ball is back
in her court.
Our motivation for doing this is not out
of any obligation to Candace. It is
about honoring Charlie. We feel a deep
responsibility to protect his legacy,
his work, and the truth. I feel that. I
owe Charlie everything in my life. it. I
feel it immensely
and that is why we feel compelled to
speak clearly and openly now. We'll have
more on this in the near future. Yay!
Yay!
Finally, you didn't have to get through
all that shade that you were throwing me
to get to the point that you were
willing to answer questions. Okay?
Because that's what Charlie did for a
living. How could you guys think that
you were just going to continue on and
pretend like people asking meaningful
questions was somehow an attack? That's
what he did for a living. He stood up on
college campuses and he debated people
and he sat there principally and debated
people because he felt that he had the
moral high ground. Okay? And that if
those people disagreed with him, he
could bring them over to his side. You
guys have been actually acting and
embodying the opposite of Charlie Kirk's
spirit. Okay? And you did it even in
this. It was like one big character
assassination. Uh and it wasn't to me.
That's what you guys don't understand.
You're not attacking me. You are
attacking millions of people around the
world who watched a man, an innocent man
be publicly executed and then watched
what felt very much like the state
collude to feed us absolute horseshit
about what took place on that day. Okay.
306 bullets do not get stopped by human
necks because they eat healthy. They
don't. And yes, you guys are a part of
that apparatus of people who made us
feel and you've expressed it here like
you were too good to answer questions.
We are already said, I got on stage and
I told you that I'm Charlie's pastor. I
told you I'm his best friend. I told you
you guys have even allowed people to
inject themselves into his legacy that
Charlie didn't even like. And we're
supposed to believe you're doing this
because you're his friend, because
you're committed to truth. You sat there
and allowed the very people who
pressured Charlie towards the end of his
life to try to claim his whole legacy
and you're pretending we are the ones
that are immoral. You're upset because
you got caught lying. You're upset
because you got caught with your pants
down. But you cannot blame me for that.
Okay? These were your own errors. These
were your own lies. And I was not going
for a single second to let up on the
pressure. In fact, I have been so
strategic that I have been holding on to
certain information hoping that you
would acquies to have a public
conversation because I want to look you
in the eye and I want to challenge you
to lie to me because I care deeply about
what happened to Charlie on that day. I
don't think we're getting the truth. And
I do believe that because you are not
forthcoming about the information that
you have about Charlie texting you guys
and saying that he thought he was going
to be assassinated that very next day.
Okay. The day that he died, Charlie knew
that he thinks he was going to be killed
tomorrow. And you guys are sitting on
that information. So, I'm the right
person. Yeah. I'm the right person to
sit across from you and to ask you
questions, right? Some things that you
told me on that day, they're not adding
up. I think the entire world would like
to see this discussion. I think you can
do it in Charlie's honor. I'll sit
there. You pick a place and time. We
could have done this today, by the way.
You didn't have to read all that. Okay?
We all have tech. We could have done a
live stream. We could schedule a live
stream. We can raise money for Turning
Point USA. If you promise to answer
every question that I have, okay? And
it's not hard. It's it's not difficult
if you are telling the truth to answer
questions. when you are emoting so much
and you're upset at the inquiry and
you're playing this game like you're
David Hog and why I survived Parkland so
how dare you question my authority on
anything not a good long-term strategy
it's not going to be effective long term
and I think you're learning that lesson
because three months on with the entire
mainstream media on your side and
attacking me which you guys didn't even
stand up for me when you knew they were
lying about me you stayed mom that in
and of itself. You should be ashamed of.
You should be ashamed to sit across from
people who did everything they could to
stop Charlie's rise, breaking bread with
them and refusing to have a conversation
with me. And you know that I cared about Charlie.
Charlie.
Have you no shame? We're going to find
out. You can pick the place. You can
pick the time. I say we do it tomorrow.
We don't need to plan for this. We don't
need lawyers in between us. Lawyer
statements. It's not how I roll. Okay? I
don't care about any of I wanted to be
authentic. Like I said, you can take the
money. You can we can raise money live
for this conversation. That is how badly
the world is demanding it. So I accept
it with whistles and bells. Everything I
fully accept. I say, "Let's do it
tomorrow. Let's do it tomorrow." And my
only ground rule is no assassinations.
Okay? No assassinations. No funny
business. You can't pretend you're going
to do it and then Candace died a
mysterious accident. Okay? We'll be
right back after a quick break. All
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stories. I'm laughing at the uh live
chat right now. They really think
Turning Point's going to kill me. Like,
don't go don't go in person. It's a
setup. It's a trap. I really, guys, I
think that they would be they would kind
of figure that they would be blamed for
that. I I think we're okay there. Um,
but let's start with the Pentagon
because this is interesting. The United
States Pentagon, in case you don't know,
is the complex that houses our
Department of Defense. It's a massive
complex, right? There is arguably no
more relevant building to communicating
to the American people about foreign
threats. That's what they do. Is quite
literally the nerve center for the
United States Armed Forces. It's
headquarters for the Army, the Navy, and
the Air Force. And recently, because the
American government wants the world to
no longer take us seriously as a nation
or something, they decided to undergo a
quote unquote press corps makeover
ostensibly to let in new independent,
more trusted journalists. And some of
them are okay. James O'Keefe obviously
formerly of Project Veraritoss. He's
very much trusted. Uh Matt Gates, I like
him very much. But some of the people
that they let in are almost the exact
opposite of trustworthy and are just
radically pro- Zionist. like they will
lie, steal, cheat, and figuratively
murder or figure, I guess, literally
allow Israel to murder without asking
any questions. And so that's why they're
being let in. Most notably, obviously,
Laura Loomer. She's totally nutty. And I
don't say that in a way of like I'm just
is an ad hom attack. I mean like she has
psychotic issues. uh allowing Laura
Loomer into a national defense complex
is actually sort of just an indication
to just how committed they are to
laundering the reputations of anyone as
long as they say I support Israel
because Laura Loomer is quite literally
so deranged that she once handcuffed
hers herself to the Twitter headquarters
because they banned her account. Okay,
that's like and she wore yellow star of
David. When I met her, she was crying
tears because they took away her check
mark. She deeply deeply cares about
social media in a way that is just
unhinged. Okay. Now, she is apparently
not allowed to own a gun because of
various psychotic events that required
her hospitalization. But due to her
commitment to Zionism, which in a
Zionist's defense seems like a
psychopathology is a prerequisite, the
media is now trying to mainstream her
and make us think that she's like a
serious person. So, our government, the
Pentagon, decide to credential her at
this time. She's a part of the new press
corps that we can trust. Laura has
probably been the uh one of the more
prominent gaslighters when it comes to
Charlie Kirk's assassination. Uh she
hated Charlie when he was alive and now
wants everyone to honor him by not
proddding the narrative surrounding his
death. Literally a couple of weeks
before he died, she called Charlie uh a
charlatan, a political opportunist, that
he wasn't proTrump simply because he
hosted Dave Smith, who was anti-Zionist.
He is also Jewish, for a debate with
Josh Hammer, who's a radical Zionist
like herself, at one of his events.
Charlie believed in free speech and he
believed in debate. And so that was her
reason for attacking him. Briefly
showing you this tweet from her. uh not
even worth reading in its entirety, but
this is the tweet that she sent out and
then Charlie died a couple of weeks
later and she completely switched and
now thinks that she's guarding his leg
legacy. Anyways, she was beside herself
with Glee this morning sharing news that
another Zionist influencer named Cam
Higgby, who has also now been
credentialed by the Pentagon, uh,
decided to ask the perhaps
billion-dollar question to the
Pentagon's press secretary, young woman
named Kingsley Wilson, about the foreign
angle of Charlie's assassination. Now,
um I obviously reported that the French
Foreign Legion were apparently on the
ground on the day of Charlie Kirk's
assassination. So, here is Cam Higgby,
who I guess is playing dress up as a
reporter, asking the Pentagon's press secretary,
secretary,
a question about the most viral story
for about a week uh pertaining to
France's participation in the biggest
political assassination that has taken
place since JFK. I would say I think
that's fair. Here's our new press corps,
guys. Take a listen to Actually, first
let's focus in on Cam Higgby's question.
The way he asks it is, I think, worthy
of highlighting. Take a listen.
>> Absolutely. I'm Kingsley Wilson. I'm the
press secretary here at the Pentagon.
We're in the Pentagon briefing room. Um,
and it's been fantastic. Get to come to
the Pentagon every day. And now you all
do as well.
>> Yeah. So, this is my first question, and
don't laugh. Does the DO have any
evidence at all of a French military
plot to assassinate Candace Owens?
>> Okay, here's my first question. Don't
laugh. It's like two girls getting their
nails done. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let me ask
Let me We're like a sleepover. Okay.
Okay. Okay. Okay. I have something to
tell you. Don't laugh. Don't laugh.
Don't laugh. Is this supposed Like, is
this supposed to make us think that this
is not propaganda? Are we going this is
cool? Is this the new strategy? All the
cool kids don't even ask the feds
questions. All the cool kids just get in
line and do whatever they say. All the
cool kids just think it's beyond crazy
to consider that the state would
assassinate people even though that's
what we do. That's the CIA does. We just
murder people around the world. But
that's crazy talk. And so they're going
to make it it's like too cool to even
answer. Take it away, Kingsley.
>> That is an interesting question. Um not
that I'm aware of. Uh but you know,
interesting question. I can try to find
out and maybe let you know. Uh I think
that might be a little more of a law
enforcement matter though.
>> No, I I think actually the Department of
Defense this would be a good matter for
you guys to take up of whether or not um
uh foreign governments are plotting
assassinations of American citizens.
Feels like this might be the right
department to me and I'm not laughing.
So when I say to you guys um when I
stress to you guys that you should not
be signing up for war, you should not be
signing up for the military, uh you
should not get involved in this obvious
war that they are planning that's coming
soon. This exact moment between these
two people is what I'm referring to.
It's like a rare glimpse into the
elitist perspective of our government.
Like our job I guess is to work and to
deposit money so that they can build
themselves complexes like the Pentagon
which is a 6.5
million square foot residence office
building. Okay. It is the second largest
office building in the world. 6.5
million square feet. And they built it
with our money so that we could have
some sort of an illusion of being
protected by our government. like we
could actually call them and say, "Hey,
I have very specific information and
accounts that you can trace because the
president played of France allegedly
paid $1.5 million for my assassination."
And by the way, I have evidence they had
French foreign legion on the ground day
that Charlie got assassinated.
They're not going to respond to that,
right? That's all supposed to be an
illusion. when it comes down to it,
getting that credible evidence uh after
a televised event, essentially a
televised event of a public execution.
Lol. Get back to work, slaves. We're
trying not to laugh at you questioning
whether or not a 30 odd stick can be
magically stopped by a human neck. How
dare you ask any questions or speak to
us about states coordinating
assassinations? And are you guys still
talking about the Epstein files?
That's the that's that's the attitude.
They think this is good PR. Like the
Zionist accounts are sharing this and
they're going, "Lol, I don't know that
the American government has ever been
more I don't know if they've ever been
more out of touch with the American
people than to see this as a they're
like, "Send it around the press." Haha.
The Pentagon is laughing at foreign
assassination. They don't take anything
seriously. Yeah, we just watched uh
Trump get shot at um and his ear
clipped. We just watched another person
try to assassinate Trump on the golf
field and then we watched Charlie Kirk
die publicly. But lol, I'll get back to
you. We'll get back to you. That's not
what we're here for. Get to work,
slaves. Again, there is no left or
right. It's just the elites. It's the
media apparatus that protects those
elites and then the rest of us who are
supposed to be slaves. Okay? The elites
own everything. They own everyone. And
if somebody actually breaks free, right?
If they have an individual in the matrix
who creates something that they cannot
control or buy, then there are only a
couple of options for that individual.
Okay? The state responds and they say,
"We will destroy you reputationally.
We will call you crazy, go after
reputation, make up allegations against
you. We will bankrupt you. We will
imprison you or we will kill you."
That's the reality of the world that we
live in. Okay? We don't live in a
meritocracy. It's not a free nation. you
ha they have to be able to control you.
And the timing of me speaking about this
is so perfect because this article
appeared in Fortune yesterday. This is
the headline inside the economics of
Candace Owens's media empire and the
Mcronone lawsuit threatening to unravel
it. They went with this like they're
proud of this. Like a lawsuit can
unravel what they're calling an empire
is actually uh just a mom from home who
got fired and rejected from literally
nations. They tried to destroy me last
year. They took everything. They just
tried to destroy my reputation, tried to
break my friendships, and I survived,
okay? And that angers them. And so this
article is written with such elitism,
the hope that the state will step in and
just break it, just bankrupt it. This is
an actual quotation.
The lawsuit, it read, "The lawsuit is
set to test whether the controversy as
currency that made Owens rich and gave
her a media brand that reaches tens of
millions of people can survive what
experts say will be an immensely costly
legal battle." Yeah, we're going to
bankrupt Candace Owens. That is our
intent. The experts are saying that we
can do it because we can't control her.
She wouldn't sell out, not to the
military complex that we live in, not to
big companies, not to corporations. She
wouldn't turn the eye uh when
Palestinians were being genocided by
Israel. And we have no other options.
Our we're running out of options here.
So, we've got to kill her or we've got
to bankrupt her. And we're saying we're
signaling that we're going to bankrupt
her. That's how this thing works. We're
telling the truth, by the way. That's
why I'm being sued. And they're not
lying. Thus far in the Breijit Mcronone
lawsuit, we have paid over a quarter of
a million dollars and we haven't even
had our first day in court. Okay, that's
the matrix. That is the matrix. And I
will again assert to these people, I
will never bow the knee to evil. I will
never bow uh uh the knee to bend the
knee rather to people that harm
children. You you will never see me bend
the knee to that ever. bankrupt me if
that is what makes you feel good because
at the end of the day it feels like we
are existing in a time where you are
only catalyzing your own demise like
it's people have never been more awake
and more in tune and the focus on
Charlie Kirk's assassination proves that
you you couldn't make that go away
speaking of which Charlie Kirk whose
death is exposing this matrix in ways
that I do not even think that we can
fully comprehend in this moment just yet
we asked the question and we can't find
the answer as to where Rajit Mcronone
was on the dates of the Egyptian plane
was flying around America just like a
six-day gap in Braz
and now of course especially as we have
learned about Delaware and the DuPont
French connection and the French Foreign
Legion non-answer that we're getting
just gaslighting that we are getting it
feels like an even more relevant and
rational question to be asking and
somehow made even more interesting now
that we know or that we've learned and
thanks to the internet sloo and the
YouTubers that put this together that an
hour and a half before Charlie Kirk was
assassinated in Utah, Donald Trump and
Emanuel Mcronone had a phone call that
has been recorded in Emanuel Mcronone's
public calendar which has been released.
You can see um that he had the phone
call with Donald Trump at 6 uh sorry
this would be 6:45 obviously p.m. in
French time. That's 10:45 a.m. in Utah
time. 10:45 a.m. Utah time is when they
had this phone call. And look, that
could be nothing. There's a lot going on
in the world, obviously. Uh, and we also
know that there's been a lot of
discussion about Ukraine, and there's a
million reasons that Emanuel Mcronone
and him could have had that poorly timed
phone call. But it would be great if a
press member could not lol and say,
"What was the nature of the phone call
just so that we know, right? These are
questions I think it's fair for us to
ask with everything that's coming up and
the lack of a true response that we're
getting from anyone um that has the
means to answer these questions.
Anyways, you guys, uh we're almost at
overtime here, but in other
assassination news, I wanted to mention
to you that The Game, who is a hip-hop
rapper, is releasing an album, and he
has a song on his track list in this
upcoming album that's entitled The
Assassination of Candace Owens. I'm
having like the best year ever or
something. I don't know.
[gasps] Why? Why? Why the game? Why is
it got to be song number 13? What's
going on? This better not be predictive
programming. Okay, we know how Hollywood
gets down. Okay, we're reading your
books. Anyways, he was asked this
question, this exact question. Why? And
he gave him an answer. And here's what
the game had to say.
>> So, you got this new mixtape dropping
and then there's this like one track
called the assassination of Candace Owens.
Owens. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Why that title?
>> Um cuz I think recently I've been seeing
like uh conspiracy theories and you know
about Candace Owens um from herself uh
self admitted um she feels like people
were conspiring her. So what it was is
more so an assassination of the
character. So I just use that because it
was like current news but it's not the
song is not about camp you know.
>> Oh okay. So it's just a little bit
deeper than Okay.
>> Yeah. I'm a rapper. We use metaphors,
you know.
>> Okay. But aren't you I mean, are you
worried about Candace coming for you
about this? I mean
>> uh Yeah. No, I'm not there. Nah, I'm not
worried about Candace. But then again,
you got to hear the song.
>> Okay. So, she'll understand if she hears
the song. Maybe.
>> I mean, the thing is she said that
people were trying to assassinate her.
So, all I did was say it too. You know
what I'm saying? So, again, the song is
not about her. But Candace Owens, man,
she real smart, really intelligent uh
woman. Well, if she comes for me, I
mean, you know, it is what it is.
>> It is what it is. There's beef in these
streets, okay? There's beef in these
streets. And you better be scared
because maybe I am coming for you, okay?
I could be coming for you. I might drop
a whole album. I might drop a whole
mixtape, too. Okay. Anyways, I think it
is a form of flattery. Obviously, I'm
friends with Yay. Um, and he makes music
and they do use a lot of metaphors, so
I'm not offended by this. Do I love the
timing? Could I get a break for six
months maybe and not have that title be
there? Sure. But I'm totally okay with
this. I think it's kind of cool. I
actually kind of think it's cool. I hope
the song lyrics are cool and it's not a
diss track and it's not going to be like
Eminem crying about me on a whole album.
But um I look forward to the song. I
hope you use also feel free to use a
little audio from the podcast. That
would be cool. You could you could use a
strip of me saying something. Everything
is fake and gay would be super super
fly. Everything is fake and gay. Please
put that in the song. That's my only
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the adoration that we had for stars and
we followed their trends. And if we
actually studied where it all came from,
which is incredibly evil indoctrination,
quite literally doctrines of evil, which
is guiding that movement, um, uh, it's
guiding that theology rather. I spoke
about it more at length with Russell
Brandon uh on his show. So that should
be coming out soon. But we have to
become educated about where it stems
from. There's less of them, but they
have a lot of power and they have a lot
of a lot of influence and they have, you
know, blackmailed people that are in
powerful positions. There's definitively
more of us. That's why they want to kill
us. Obviously, that's why they want to
drug us and keep us dumb is because the
numbers are not on their side. Um so we
have to make sure it's not just the
numbers, but also that the ideology is
not on their side. the answer to people
that want less families, not because uh
they want you to have to be more
efficient and to climb the corporate
ladder. They just want less of you.
There needs to be less slaves if you
want to maintain control and you don't
want the risk of a revolution uh to come
down upon you. That's the that's the
true answer is that that's why they
promote all of these things. That's why
they want people to have less children
um is because they want to increase
their numbers while decreasing ours. And
so we need to be radical about not also
giving our children to the system. Uh if
you can and you can you absolutely can
uh homeschool your children. Pull them
out of the system. Don't send your kids
to college. Usery is another one of
their tactics. Don't rack up debt. I
made that mistake. Uh and learned
nothing. It's just more time for them to
indoctrinate your children. Be bold in
changing the system. Be radical in your
response of taking ownership over your
own home. That's what I would say in
response to that. Uh goodness wins.
Goodness wins. In truth, Christ has
already won.
More comments from today. Merryill
writes, "Careful, Candace. They may be
betting that you won't be available for
a sitdown the next few weeks. Also,
watch your sources. Sometimes the feds
plant sources sources with almost good
information in order to humiliate their
target later." Yes. Uh I'm very aware of
that and we are very cautious about our
sources and sometimes we that has
happened where and we haven't gone
fortunately we haven't made a public
mistake but we'll keep going and then
I'll be like I think this is good and
then Mark will be like I don't know
about this or Skyler be like I don't
know about this and that is what takes
us so much time every day is we're a
small team but we're we're constantly
having to debate ourselves before we put
something out. So thank you for that.
Bry writes they didn't answer any of
your questions. They only brought up
speculations that you made throughout
the series. I hope you don't go there in
person for your own safety. It is so sad that we have reached a time where you
that we have reached a time where you guys are legitimately uh concerned about
guys are legitimately uh concerned about my safety. And I get that. I get that. I
my safety. And I get that. I get that. I feel like there is definitely something
feel like there is definitely something military that happened when Charlie got
military that happened when Charlie got assassinated. And I think our lack of
assassinated. And I think our lack of comfort comes from perhaps their refusal
comfort comes from perhaps their refusal to acknowledge that. I think they their
to acknowledge that. I think they their response is what makes you guys feel
response is what makes you guys feel fearful. But truly, I don't think
fearful. But truly, I don't think Turning Point USA is so silly uh and
Turning Point USA is so silly uh and stupid that they would coordinate
stupid that they would coordinate another [laughter]
another [laughter] coordinate an assassination
coordinate an assassination um on their campus and then think
um on their campus and then think they're going to be like that just
they're going to be like that just happened. I don't it was all weird. She
happened. I don't it was all weird. She ate a bad sandwich or something. But it
ate a bad sandwich or something. But it is sad. It really is a a marker of a
is sad. It really is a a marker of a times that we live in that you guys
times that we live in that you guys truly feel this way. Angie Lynn writes,
truly feel this way. Angie Lynn writes, "Ta will lie about everything as they
"Ta will lie about everything as they have been doing. Do not trust this for
have been doing. Do not trust this for one second. you and your family safety,
one second. you and your family safety, money, everything is compromised. Team
money, everything is compromised. Team Candace Christ is king. Uh James Gray
Candace Christ is king. Uh James Gray writes, "The TPUSA response seemed fake,
writes, "The TPUSA response seemed fake, calculated, scared. That guy's body
calculated, scared. That guy's body language was just completely off and he
language was just completely off and he was literally speaking from a script."
was literally speaking from a script." Yeah, he's speaking from a script. But I
Yeah, he's speaking from a script. But I will say the thing that felt genuine was
will say the thing that felt genuine was at the very end when he said, "I owe
at the very end when he said, "I owe everything to I owe everything to
everything to I owe everything to Charlie." That's when he went off
Charlie." That's when he went off script. And I I don't know that they
script. And I I don't know that they remember or know how to be authentic
remember or know how to be authentic like that anymore. They're going to find
like that anymore. They're going to find out.
out. uh because I'm very authentic and us
uh because I'm very authentic and us having a face tof face I think it's the
having a face tof face I think it's the best way to answer this. Look, I came
best way to answer this. Look, I came from Turning Point USA. So you guys know
from Turning Point USA. So you guys know that me doing this it there's there's an
that me doing this it there's there's an element of heartache. You don't go into
element of heartache. You don't go into an organization and help to build it up
an organization and help to build it up because you one day hope that uh the
because you one day hope that uh the founder of it is going to be
founder of it is going to be assassinated so that you can destroy it.
assassinated so that you can destroy it. The the very thing that you helped to
The the very thing that you helped to build in a very big way. You know, I
build in a very big way. You know, I contributed greatly to Turning Point
contributed greatly to Turning Point USA's success and they they would never
USA's success and they they would never deny that. And so it's sad. It is really
deny that. And so it's sad. It is really sad to see the sort of elitist direction
sad to see the sort of elitist direction that they're taking in you. Oh, we
that they're taking in you. Oh, we thought you guys would be smarter than
thought you guys would be smarter than to listen to her. Oh, you guys are
to listen to her. Oh, you guys are Antifa. What is that? It's such crap.
Antifa. What is that? It's such crap. James Gray writes, uh, sorry, I already
James Gray writes, uh, sorry, I already read that one. Tara writes, "Licensed
read that one. Tara writes, "Licensed psychotherapist here. This is obviously
psychotherapist here. This is obviously an attempt to psychologically manipulate
an attempt to psychologically manipulate and a terrible one at that. I would
and a terrible one at that. I would gladly put my license on the line at
gladly put my license on the line at this point to help in even the smallest
this point to help in even the smallest of ways. Holding you and your family in
of ways. Holding you and your family in prayer, Candace, keep up the prayers.
prayer, Candace, keep up the prayers. Keep up the prayers. Britney Watson
Keep up the prayers. Britney Watson writes, "Canis, you are not just going
writes, "Canis, you are not just going max, you are going scorched earth." And
max, you are going scorched earth." And after watching Monday's episode when you
after watching Monday's episode when you said that you are not some basic BI, I
said that you are not some basic BI, I was like, "Girl, take my money. Thank
was like, "Girl, take my money. Thank you for being the world's best crime
you for being the world's best crime fighting superhero." You know, I always
fighting superhero." You know, I always think back to this interview that Kanye
think back to this interview that Kanye gave before I knew who he was. And I I
gave before I knew who he was. And I I always loved Kanye. I loved his music. I
always loved Kanye. I loved his music. I loved the code of his music, which is
loved the code of his music, which is you have to believe in yourself because
you have to believe in yourself because the whole world is going to tell you you
the whole world is going to tell you you can't. And as soon as you step into the
can't. And as soon as you step into the arena and you think you've won and you
arena and you think you've won and you start having any modum of success, the
start having any modum of success, the pressure actually only levels up. And
pressure actually only levels up. And people that you thought that you would
people that you thought that you would be allies with, you find to be your
be allies with, you find to be your enemies. Like that's kind of the coded
enemies. Like that's kind of the coded message of Kanye's music. But there's
message of Kanye's music. But there's this interview that he gives where he
this interview that he gives where he says uh somebody I don't know what they
says uh somebody I don't know what they asked him, but he responds and he says,
asked him, but he responds and he says, you know, if you're a fan of Kanye West,
you know, if you're a fan of Kanye West, you're not a fan of Kanye West. You're
you're not a fan of Kanye West. You're actually a fan of yourself. uh you
actually a fan of yourself. uh you believe in yourself and you think that
believe in yourself and you think that you can you can do something in this
you can you can do something in this world. And I feel the same way. I think
world. And I feel the same way. I think that the people who think that they're
that the people who think that they're fans of mine, you're not fans of
fans of mine, you're not fans of Candace. Uh you believe in yourself. You
Candace. Uh you believe in yourself. You believe that we can actually change
believe that we can actually change things and you believe that you should
things and you believe that you should be able to fight for truth and you're
be able to fight for truth and you're not going to be influenced by people
not going to be influenced by people that are taking money to make videos and
that are taking money to make videos and say things like there's that thing.
say things like there's that thing. There's that spark inside of you is kind
There's that spark inside of you is kind of what I got when Kanye said that. It's
of what I got when Kanye said that. It's not me. It's the spark that you see in
not me. It's the spark that you see in me. It's the audacity to be yourself and
me. It's the audacity to be yourself and to think your own thoughts and to keep
to think your own thoughts and to keep going when the whole world tells you
going when the whole world tells you tells you no. So that's [snorts] how I
tells you no. So that's [snorts] how I feel. Candace go Max. I love that
feel. Candace go Max. I love that someone picked up that name as their
someone picked up that name as their username. Thanks for the honest
username. Thanks for the honest investigations. The truth shall set us
investigations. The truth shall set us all free. Thanks for the USS Liberty
all free. Thanks for the USS Liberty episode as well. Uh to this day the best
episode as well. Uh to this day the best interview that we have ever given. Uh we
interview that we have ever given. Uh we were all you could feel a spiritual
were all you could feel a spiritual movement in this room when we
movement in this room when we interviewed Phil Turney of the USS
interviewed Phil Turney of the USS Liberty. I'll never forget that
Liberty. I'll never forget that interview. It transformed me. It was a
interview. It transformed me. It was a major turning point in my life. And um I
major turning point in my life. And um I thank you guys more. I mean, I'm I'm so
thank you guys more. I mean, I'm I'm so grateful to you guys and I hope you know
grateful to you guys and I hope you know that I start all of my prayers with
that I start all of my prayers with gratitude because I started realizing
gratitude because I started realizing that sometimes when you pray, you're
that sometimes when you pray, you're you're asking for a lot, but if you
you're asking for a lot, but if you start with gratitude of the things that
start with gratitude of the things that you're thankful for, like, you know, you
you're thankful for, like, you know, you come to God and you're like, I would
come to God and you're like, I would like I'm grateful for my health. I'm
like I'm grateful for my health. I'm grateful for this. I'm grateful. By the
grateful for this. I'm grateful. By the time you get through all the things that
time you get through all the things that you're grateful for, you're like, man,
you're grateful for, you're like, man, do I really want to lodge any
do I really want to lodge any complaints? It's a good way to to pray.
complaints? It's a good way to to pray. And I always say that I am grateful for
And I always say that I am grateful for the people around the world that
the people around the world that believed in me and that continue to
believed in me and that continue to believe in me. And yeah, sometimes I
believe in me. And yeah, sometimes I make mistakes. I get time zones wrong,
make mistakes. I get time zones wrong, but at least you guys can see that my
but at least you guys can see that my heart is in the right place. And I
heart is in the right place. And I really do just genuinely want the
really do just genuinely want the answers. So, uh, I'm glad that we are at
answers. So, uh, I'm glad that we are at long last going to get them from Turning
long last going to get them from Turning Point USA. It sounds like, like I said,
Point USA. It sounds like, like I said, I'll do this tomorrow. I don't have to
I'll do this tomorrow. I don't have to be in person. We can live stream this. I
be in person. We can live stream this. I think the people trust me uh to
think the people trust me uh to represent all of the questions that we
represent all of the questions that we have and we can have the money go to
have and we can have the money go to Turning Point USA. Every dollar that's
Turning Point USA. Every dollar that's raised, I would gladly sacrifice that uh
raised, I would gladly sacrifice that uh to the organization. That's how much it
to the organization. That's how much it means to just be able to get these
means to just be able to get these questions answered. Anyways, you guys,
questions answered. Anyways, you guys, we will see you tomorrow.
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