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This content is a transcript of a debate between a proponent of the flat Earth theory ("Flat Earth Dave") and a science communicator ("Professor Dave") who defends the established scientific model of a spherical Earth. The debate covers various scientific concepts, with the flat Earth proponent attempting to challenge established physics and astronomy, while the science communicator refutes these claims with scientific explanations.
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without any further ado let us bring in
the guests for the flat earth debate
here we go
here's flat earth
david hey
david how's it going hey what's going on
thanks for having me
going to be interesting for sure it's
going to be very interesting isn't it
and professor dave
thank you for coming on for the first
time thanks for having me
congratulations on your youtube success
man 2 million subs that's phenomenal
thank you
yeah this is uh this is the first time
um i think a real flat earther i call
myself a real flat earther or um has
spoken direct with uh with professor
dave as he normally does videos you know
that just go out and uh pretty much
strawman us whether you know it or not
or gaslight us and then there's really
no way to respond because so you've
never seen my channel ever and have no
idea what i do because i like academic
tutorials i have i have but but but your
your flat earth stuff is
um is it gaslighting us is that it's
devastating and destroys flat earth
easily absolutely
big straw man oh he says that they think
the earth is flat what a straw man
i'm with you listen i don't mean to come
off that way would it be okay to look
for some common ground can i just ask a
couple of quick questions dave you give
me that whatever you want to do man yeah
i'm just just for you know to see if we
have any common ground do you believe we
went to the moon yeah
yeah
okay do you believe that governments are
here especially the american government
for the people's well-being
that's a pretty complicated question
okay you don't have to answer that's
fine that's uh that's good um do you
believe that there's censorship going on
on youtube yes
uh some stuff is de-prioritized in the
algorithm i don't know if that qualifies
as censorship and uh is the news here to
inform or to fill us with propaganda uh
the news is largely propaganda none of
that has anything to do with the shape
of the earth i don't know what the hell
you're even talking about literally none
of that has to do with the shape of the
earth so you're really doing that
just looking for some common ground
that's all
so we both don't like the government
therefore the earth is flat
so the so the so the common ground is
then we're going to try and keep um
talking points to three minutes each uh
responses to two or three minutes each
so we could get through this hour
and everyone could get an equal shirt of
the time involved here and i think the
first point that we've got up
on the list is
what is gravity
you want to go first dave or you want me
to go oh okay we're this how we're doing
this uh okay so according to general
relativity it's the curvature of
space-time around massive objects uh
and so this is uh
one of the easiest ways to know that the
earth is a sphere because everything we
see everything including the earth uh
right very large massive objects are
crushed into sphere that's why stars
planets moons everything pretty much is
spheres so uh you can now go ahead and
do your like electric electric gravity
and then i'll explain to you
why it's stupid
well the the question is does anybody
have you know any scientists or anybody
that has ever proven that any of the
luminaries we see in the sky are even
physical let alone spheres
yeah we can see them in telescopes you
can see them so you believe that if you see
see
um you see something that that'll
that'll tell you it's shape so when i
look at this are these spheres
are these fears dave are these spheres
yeah no i've seen this little trick and
i know the third one from the left is
flat it's showing you
here's the problem from the left this
fat dude let me let me give me a second
then you can go oh cause i've seen you
do this because i watched two of your
videos and you say the same crap in
every single one right i know what these
are what these shapes so how do you know
what shape the moon is how do you know
so the moon is even a physical object
during a new moon no one's going to get
in the sky i know you're talking points
so the reason so this works because
that's not moving the things in the sky
move so if you take the third one from
the left which i know is flat and you
move it around it's going to start to
change shape right if the moon was a
flat disc i don't even know if that's
one of your talking points or not as it
passed over you it would change shape it
wouldn't distort that desk at all okay
so it doesn't matter though that's why
what you're saying is stupid because
these objects do not move now the other
problem is it's not just about shape
it's about other things like composition
do you know what spectroscopy is
yeah spectroscopy is you can measure
gases but it has to be in a container
where's the container no no no stop stop
stop stop we are in we're looking at
light we're looking at light
and we are understanding about the
materials right we're understanding the
composition of things based on light so
when you start talking about gases you
uh you show me immediately that you
don't even know what spectroscopy is so
you do not know the ways in which we
figure out things about celestial
objects you literally don't even know
the definitions of the words that
represent the techniques that we use so
why are you even talking about it
so my question is spectac spectroscopy
needs to be in a container otherwise you
don't spectroscopy needs to be in a
container the study of how light
interacts with matter needs to be in a
container what does that mean otherwise
when you're looking at the moon you
don't know what gases you're seeing in
between us and the gases the moon is
solid the moon is a solid object how do
you know that the moon is solid how come
you can't see it during a new moon
why can't you see it during a new moon
yeah because
do you understand how vision works
right in a new moon what's happening in
a new moon the light from the sun the
sun is illuminating the side of away
from us
right light illuminates the things that
it hits
so a new moon is when the side that the
sun is illuminating is the other side
away from us what do you want it to do
the light to go around the moon and come
back and hit the other side like magic
without interrupting let me just uh
answer the when we have a uh when
there's when it's night time you're in
away from all lights and there's a full
moon i can read by that moonlight that
moonlight casts a shadow on the ground
don't interrupt that cast a shadow on
the ground so that moonlight which is
reflected sunlight off a dusty dirty
rocky you know rock ball in your world
is bright enough to travel 238 000 miles
to cast a shadow on the ground and to
light up my book so i can read during a
total solar eclipse in your world the
earth is a full earth from the moon's
point of view it's bigger and shinier
and it should light up the moon but it
doesn't and no telescope no from any
position with the infrared or anything
has ever seen the moon can you think of
why can you think of why can you think
of a much much brighter object that is
right there where the moon is well
during the corona of the sun which is
thousands of times brighter what you're
doing right now is you're basically
saying i'm gonna shine a spotlight
directly into your eyes and then you
tell me if you can see a firefly two
centimeters to the right like what are
you talking about do you seriously not
understand this stuff a child can
understand so when you're throwing out
words like spectroscopy what's the
difference between spectroscopy and
astro spectroscopy
what do you mean
so astro is a prefix that means stars so
if that's even a word it's spectroscopy
pertaining to stars what are you like
googling stuff furiously over there i'm
just asking you look you know i've taken
a few notes i figured out i watch a few
of your videos i know the straw manning
that you're going to try to do and the
things that you're going to try to claim
and in reality you know an infrared
camera a regular camera from the space
station they should be able to see the
sun the moon either approach the sun uh
eclipse the sun completely or uh exit
the sun and nobody has ever seen it so
again why are we looking up in the sky i
just explained it i just answered your
question you just answered it again you
asked a question that i just answered
the sun is very bright
right way way way brighter than earth
shine do you understand that if
something very bright you're looking at
something very bright you can't see
something way less bright right next to
it what are
when there's a total eclipse of the sun
and you have the you know the the little
ring around there you can block that out
so it doesn't blind you and you still
can't see it you know what it doesn't
block it out the corona have you never
seen an eclipse why are we talking you
can make a fake eclipse right by putting
a disc in front of the sun and then
looking at the corona and you can do the
same thing with the corona you can block
it wow it's really bright in the ceiling
to determine the shape of the floor
because it works really well it's the
easiest way to figure out the shape of
the earth is by looking at the celestial
objects in the sky and recording their
motion it's very very easy one second as
you said we've got to move on to the
next talking point which is
space is not as depicted displayed in
media movies etc
flat earth dave do you want to start
with that one
ask the question again please
space is not as depicted displayed in
media movies
yeah i mean space
spaces they're just you know giving us
images of of insanity in space like when
they show us um you know nebulas right
they show us this and they tell us this
is where stars are born this is where
there's gas and dust so much of it that
it's creating stars and spitting them
out like ping-pong balls where they go
run away and they park themselves in the
rest of the galaxy this gas
and dust in space in a vacuum in zero
pressure how does that work how come
this doesn't collapse in on itself this
is just it does that's how stars are
born yeah they do collapse it's how
stars form dave in your world this is
gases are collapsing upon themselves and
then yeah igniting themselves in a
vacuum in a in a in a vacuum and then
they they just no no
look i i know that you want to just spew
your script without anybody challenging
but you say so many stupid things and
i'm here to tell you why everything
you're saying is stupid so when you say
stars igniting in a vacuum the reason
that's confusing for you is that you
think stars are little bonfires
because you're a because you don't
understand nuclear fusion nuclear fusion
is the process by which stars glow
they're not little fireballs and you can
learn that by googling something for
five seconds but you don't do it so dave
you believe that all the rocky bits turn
into perfect balls and then all of the
gases somehow start getting gravity and
they start pulling it together getting
gravity what do you mean start getting
gravity how do they how do they grow
into stars how come the dust is
accumulating what's bringing it together
is somebody traveling up like a snowball
gravity so yes
so they get something and it's a tiny
bit of gravity pulls in some more dust
it pulls in not dust it pulls in gases
and somehow it's pulling all of these
gases together and turning into a
nuclear furnace that burns for billions
of years um i'm sorry that doesn't make
any sense okay so so
so centuries of brilliant astronomers versus
versus uh
uh
is that really all you have is the
entire field of astronomy and you going
uh that's i don't like it that's dumb
i'm dumb and i don't get it so astronomy
is wrong that's that's literally your
argument against astronomy right now you
you never met these men you don't know
anything about these men other than the
stories that the controllers of this
world tell you you know they wrote books
right you know they wrote books that we
could read and then we base astronomy on
that and do astronomy every day right
they've tried not to interrupt aristophanes
aristophanes
figured out the the tustin
figured out the the diameter the
circumference of the earth with his
sticks and shadows but nobody in that
area that came out of that other
mathematicians never wrote any books
about him they ignored him they just
never mentioned it and then all of a
i mean if you're just gonna lie then we
can just play the lie game
and dave what uh what about um the fact
that that proves nothing it works
perfectly on a flat earth sticks and
shadows prove the earth is flat and it
proves it's a globe but you'd have to
assume parallel rays listen to this
aristophane believe that parallel rays
are coming into earth right and and no
one has ever seen parallel rays coming
into earth right when we look when we
look we always see them curved we always
see them crepuscular but he also
believed that the earth was geocentric
and we had an infinitely far sun and so
that sun is orbiting around and
immediately before well
evil far being so far away that the rays
come in parallel and that's a whole
nother problem but how is a distant sun
orbiting around a spec earth in the
middle of uh in the middle of um you
know in the middle of space that doesn't
make sense and they didn't think about
what doesn't make sense what does it
make sense about an earth orbiting a sun
what no no
that doesn't make sense isn't it an
argument dave stop being a dick listen
to what i said you stop being a dick
the the aristo eratosthenes believed
that the earth was geocentric that the
sun orbited us but the sun was a distant
sun how does a distant gigantic sun
they don't know
it's the ancient greeks they didn't know
now we know right we figured out
heliocentrism in like the 16th century
his so it was like 500 years ago that's
pretty long story his story makes no
sense and the other question is you
believe that the sun rays that come in
are parallel right no there look there
there are rays that are parallel and
then you can you can point array from
the edge one edge of the sun and the
other edge look light is going in all
directions right light the sun is is
expelling light
they're they're spherical waves of light
photons in every direction
right so you can you can identify
parallel rays and then you can identify
one from this edge and if you want to
talk about individual photons you can
draw paths from the edge of the sun
going in one direction the edge of sun
going the other direction you're trying
to oversimplify things you're trying to
go oh it's it's crepuscular it's all
parallel and so then this time it works
for my talking point and then another
time it doesn't work for my target point
is my point is aristotle's story doesn't
make any sense with the distant sun
orbiting a geocentric earth yeah if you
just say it doesn't make sense and stop talking
talking
how does a distant sun orbit a a
geocentric earth when the earth is tiny
and the sun is
long gigantic short it doesn't but he
was an ancient greek and he didn't know
heliocentrism they didn't know when
newton under when newton developed
newton's law of universal gravitation he
didn't know why massive objects attract
one another right he just said this is
what happens and i have this this
equation and we use newton's equations
to do all these incredible calculations
that predict the motion of objects on
earth and in space he didn't know what
gravity was einstein gave a better
explanation the curvature of space-time
warped around massive objects we're
probably going to get a better model
later just that we don't know why things
happen doesn't mean we can't do science
at predictive power so as it turns out
eratosthenes and and ptolemy the
ptolemaic model was wrong heliocentrum
heliocentric model is correct it doesn't
matter that they didn't know that they
didn't know that part or that they
didn't know why something happens do you
not understand how science works so so
if he if he was wrong and uh and were uh
heliocentric do you think his experiment
proved your globe
yeah it did all of those experiments
prove the globe it just didn't have
anything to do with heliocentrism
a sphere absolutely not because on a
small on a with a local sun in like the
flat earth is um we have no shadow here
and we have a shadow here and then you
could do you know your math and figure
out what uh what the first versity of
this flat plane is right okay so for
that to work how close is the sun
how close is the sun how close is the
sun yeah
like right above the clouds which we'd
be able to see if you went up in a plane
or a balloon and you're like right there
there's tons of videos explaining how
the sun is an apparent object and we all
see it in a different position oh
there's videos that say dumb things
that's true that show science show
experiments and when you try to
triangulate the sun um there's a problem
you can't do it you can't triangulate
the sun so how far the sun is some
flatter through say it's
3000 miles away i don't like that answer
the math works we can scale it and make
it the mathematical work you've never
done any math in your entire life you
just say the math works and expect
people to stop being a condescending
prick all right try why don't you stop
condescending to the entire human race
and pretending that every scientist ever
is a liar in satanic deceiver that's
much more offensive than me calling you
stupid which you are dave what is the sun
sun
what is the sun it's a star
it's a star it's a bird it's a star
it's a nuclear furnace that that's
working perfectly and it's bending
space-time where it could hold on to all
of the planets that go all the way out
to pluto is that is that your belief
well pluto's now uh a trans-neptunian object
object yes
yes
yes and then and then the sun's gravity
ignores all of the moons because the
moons are attracted to their planets and
it negates
that's what you believe what do you mean
negates the sun yeah so
moons so what you're saying is that like
one of jupiter's moons should go flying
towards the sun is that what you're
saying i'm not saying that all i'm
asking you if you believe that the sun's
gravity has no effect on moons
yeah it has you can calculate you can
see this is real scientists and people
who understand science can do
calculations so instead of you going i
don't believe it what you could do is
you could take newton's law of universal
gravitation and take a moon whatever
moon if you want to talk about our moon
or one of mars's or one of jupiter's or
whatever and you could calculate a
number that is the gravitational
attraction between the sun and whatever
moon you're talking about and then you
could do the same thing for the moon and
its parent planet that it is orbiting
which number do you think is going to be
bigger buddy which one do you think is
going to be bigger
the one that it is orbiting around we
have a planetary alignment where all the
planets are lining up all of that gravity
gravity
you know
sorry sorry i would like you to actually
just address what i just said because
this is what happens is i say something
or a flatter debunker like myself says
something that just annihilates the
idiotic thing you just said and then you
just gish gallop to another point i
would like you to admit that what you
just said is stupid based on what i just said
said
repeat what you said
i just explained to you why what you
said about the sun and the moon is stupid
stupid
and you just jump to another talking point
point
so you say that the gravity of the
planet is holding on to these moons and
it's so much stronger let me finish i'm
i'm reiterating what you're saying to
show you how stupid it is it's holding
on to the to the planets but the sun's
gravity it can hold on to the planets
hold on to distant planets but can't
affect those moons at all
can't affect like i just said you can do
a calculation did you want to do the
calculation do you want to do it
together do you want to learn something
today it's called newton's law of
universal gravitation do you know what
is in the denominator r squared it drops
off gravity drops off by the square of
the distance so as things get very very
far away the gravitational influence is
dramatically less exponentially so so
when you have a moon that is right right
near a planet the gravitational effect
is way more than the far away sun
isn't that neat isn't that a neat thing
that we can do with math and numbers
that are real things that scientists do
instead of just going
it doesn't make sense so that's dumb
you done
yeah what do you got do you want to
address this thing or do you want to
jump right to another thing i want to
jump to something else because you say
that the sun's gravity that can hold on
to neptune and pluto can't affect the
moon which is way closer to it and that
the earth gravity overwhelms that that's
stupid that's me saying it why you're
the the
all you're saying is that's stupid all
you're saying is that's
stupid it works because i could do math
but it's it doesn't it doesn't work what
do you mean it doesn't dave model it you
ever you know about the three body
problem i'm sure you know about that oh
the three body problems so we can't do
calculations without being such a
condescending prick we already know just
be a just talk normal have a dessert all
right hang on one second this is serious
this private chat keeps covering the
screen can this stop why is this doing this
this
the private chat yeah yeah yeah like
i shouldn't cover the chat should it
just trying to make sure everything's
all right the whole screen
all right
yes yes we're sorting it out i can't
there seems to be a problem with sean's
i can't hear you sean yeah
yeah
yeah that's what's that's what's going
on i've been watching sean every now and
then just chatting away and we've not
been hearing him there's tons of
important snippets of information lost
forever to the ethers of the the the
internet how are you guys doing there's
a lot of back and forth isn't it it's a very
very
you know dare i say american debate
isn't it it's it's
insults and stuff well here's the thing
i would like to get off of the lights in
the sky because i'd rather talk about
the shape of the earth because they
destroy the flat earth well you say that
but the lights in the sky have nothing
to do with the flat earth okay so this
was my first talking point were we gonna
do the talking points that we prepared
because my first talking point is about
this and it is an absolute annihilation
of flat earth that's why you don't want
to talk about it that's why you say why
do we look at the things in the sky to
figure out the shape of the earth
because that's how we figured it out 2
000 years ago by looking at this at the
stars can i show my slide that that
shows us okay here we go observation of
stars next one
can you
you're controlling it right do i just
tell you when to go
okay so if you're in the northern
hemisphere looking at the north pole
then hang on all this stuff is covering
i can't even see the text i think i
remember what it says anyway if you're
looking at the north pole in the
northern hemisphere the stars rotate
if you're in the southern hemisphere
looking at the south pole the stars
rotate clockwise next one
why does it how does this make sense on
a flat earth sorry this is a screenshot
from one of my videos so in the video
they're rotating in different directions
why would two people on a flat pizza
land look at the sky and see a sky that
and furthermore why can't we all see the
same stars there are stars that you can
only see in the northern way and towards
the northern hemisphere and stars you
can see in the southern hemisphere next one
one
on a globe this makes perfect sense if
you're in the northern hemisphere
looking at the north pole east is to
your right if you are in the south and
southern hemisphere looking at the south
pole east is to your left next one
and the reason we can't see certain
stars is because you can't see through
the earth next one [Music]
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that's why in the northern hemisphere we
can't see the southern cross that's why
in the southern hemisphere we can't see
polaris next one almost done
so it actually gets a lot worse than
that in the southern hemisphere because
you've taken a globe and you've
unwrapped it the southern hemisphere
makes absolutely no sense people in the
southern hemisphere who are all looking
at the southern cross are somehow
supposed to be we're believing that
they're all looking in completely
different directions and seeing the same
it might it might be that um because ash
is doing this oh have you done it is it
worth yeah that's it i think it's the
last one so again on a globe south
actually means something people who are
looking south are all looking at the
south pole they're all looking in the
same direction so that's why they all
see the same thing such as an object
like the southern cross all right can
you go back that's the last one let me
go through the slide check if it's the
next one yeah check if it's the last one
and if you can go back to the first one
so in your world we have people standing
upside down and you're assuming
hemispheres honestly what do you mean
upside down what do you mean upside down
what does that mean compare their feet
are antipodal to my feet people in the
south okay so yours are upside down
compared to them what's the difference
what's down on the globe i'm not saying
i'm just saying people are upside down
to each other halfway across the world
so if we can go back to the original
slide so i can remember all the points
he made so i can address them that would
be fantastic
um i think the issue is that ash the
producer is having some issues with his
internet and isn't able to do it sorry
about this guys we're usually quite good
with the with the tech and everything so
um yeah i'll try to i can tell you the
points again
i'd rather just see the points rather
than hear you say him again okay um if the
the
i don't know you can't you can't change
your back
uh i don't i don't think so he's in like
you know the philippines or something
mad like that so he's having some
difficulties with it and i think sean is
as well
good thing i'm here saving the day um
yeah it was that the in the northern
hemisphere the celestial sphere rotates
counterclockwise in the center of the
southern hemisphere
clockwise and we can't see certain stars
yeah you don't have to do the whole
presentation you can just remind
so uh no matter where you are in the
world all of the stars uh all the lights
in the sky from the what with things
that we call planets wandering stars
stars sun and moon they all rise in the
east set in the west if i'm if i'm
standing on a flat earth looking out to
the south the stars are coming from my
left if i'm standing in the north
looking at the north the stars are
coming from my right that explains the
opposite direction now you just
explained the globe model you didn't know
know
on the flat earth how do people see the
sky rotating in different directions
explain that facing in different
directions david and we're facing
different urges i will explain if i wait
hang on speaking of facing different
directions flat earth day if you're
because we've changed the angles a bit
you're a bit off the screen there that's
it i got it it would be it would be
better if you can if you can uh make me
wide screen so i can um
like show what i'm showing but
okay well there you go and i'll just say
yeah sean's just saying that his his
thing is um freezing so i guess he'll be
back when he when he can but uh for now
keep going so on a flat earth if uh
wherever flat earth north is to the
center south is every direction away
from the center so if the stars are
going this way from my right shoulder to
left shoulder i'm looking at the north
star they're going one way when i turn
around and i look at the south away from
the center they're coming from my left
shoulder to my right shoulder they just
change directions okay there's no
argument there there's nothing to argue
that works okay now do clockwise and counterclockwise
counterclockwise
because that's really what we're talking
about what do you mean it doesn't matter
again you're talking about a direction
i'm talking about clockwise versus
counterclockwise when you're looking at
the poles the optics yeah
yeah
you say the polls so getting back to
your point where you have somebody in
santiago somebody in johannesburg and
somebody in australia when they see the
southern cross well they don't see it at
the same time they see it 12 hours apart
from santiago they don't see it at the
same time so people looking south can't
see the night sky at the same time david
if you understand what the flat earth
model is if somebody's in santiago you
don't have a model listen
listen
yeah stop being a dick okay you stop
being a dick your entire existence is
being a dick to all of science
so stop telling me to stop being a dick
keep going if somebody's in santiago and
it's midnight they're looking at the
southern cross well somebody in
australia that's looking south they're
looking at the noon sun you tell me how
this new sun
how many
how many how many time zones apart are
they are they 12 time zones apart
at noon close to noon right
okay no first of all not close to me but
it doesn't matter how about you go four
hours apart why don't you go four time
zones apart they should still be looking
in completely different directions 12 12
midnight 4 a.m night sky both looking
south both can see the southern cross on
your pizza world should be looking in
completely different directions explain that
that
dave when uh the only time that can
happen is in johannesburg and santiago
and if you add magnetic declination in
there they're both looking in the same
direction magnetic declination yeah
so so you think just saying the word
magnet is going to be an argument here
that's going to work
look look up the magnetic declinations
of those areas you don't know what
direction you're facing right there's
certain areas of antarctica that the
magnetic declination is 170 degrees so
when your compass says north is that way
it's 170 degrees the other way according to
to
you know noah or whoever whoever is in
charge of that right there look you can
dress it up however you want we're
talking about looking this way and
looking that way and they see the same
thing and you're fixating on san diego
santiago and johannesburg because you
think that they're far enough apart that
you're they're not going to both be
nighttime i'm telling you you can go any
distance apart just go from perth to sydney
sydney
right that's far enough apart that if
you're both looking directly south
you're looking in different directions
and you can see the same thing
you cannot explain that that's why
you're trying to throw out jargon to
confuse people i'm not trying to throw a
jargon to confuse people david that's
exactly what you're when you when you're
looking you're looking towards the same area
area
you're looking towards
the same area and on your pizza world
south is a different direction for every
longitude line do you not understand
that on your pizza land right you have
all these longitude lines directly south
is towards your magic ice wall everybody
looking south is looking in a different direction
direction
magic ice wall yeah
so stop trying to skip to something else
right are you denying that longitude
lines everybody on your pizza world is
all looking in a completely different
direction when they look at nasa nasa or
noaa they tell us you know what
longitudinally talking about there they
tell us that uh the magnetic declination
is a different direction so we're
listening or are you just randomly
grasping at words to try to make sense
of something that is absolutely
unexplainable for you david it's not
true and uh the optics in the sky again
do not prove the shape of the earth you
say i just did prove it with that so i
don't know what to tell you let's move on
on
i want to move on from looking at the
lights in the sky to figure out yeah we
hear you here because i prove the earth
is a sphere by using that that is that
i just finished proving the earth is a
sphere by looking at stars something
that we've been doing for thousands of
years so so says you go ahead yeah and
everybody who's ever lived so nasa isn't
gonna really help you with that one
sorry buddy they started in the 1950s
all right so we've got we've got a
talking point from uh dave which is
the bible has 200 references to the flat
earth every major ancient civilization
that's from me or from dave
yeah i mean the if you're a bible
believer you know from page one in the
bible it says god separated the waters
from the waters and created the
firmament that's all interesting but you
know i don't use the bible as science
because science will show us on a small
earth dave you have to have a physical
horizon right if my fingernail is a boat
as it goes away it disappears below a
physical horizon and zooming in will not
bring it back however we can see too far
they say the ball is 24 901 miles around
but we can see things that are way way
way farther and with infrared now we're
seeing things 500 to a thousand miles
away the amount of current
yeah we are not go look at jay paul and
media's uh channel oh go look at some
lies that a flat earther said that is
real evidence
well it's dave well documented you
haven't looked at it and then when you
say the curvature formula is a parabola
i absolutely agree it is over a thousand
miles it gets off a little bit but
anything under a thousand miles all
three formulas come within a very close
proximity of each other yeah but the
problem is you can't do math so you just
do the math wrong well you're you just
say that but if you look at all of the
curvature formulas under a thousand
miles it's perfectly accurate and then
you think that we're spinning at a
thousand miles an hour and we don't feel
it and we're changing you know we're
changing directions how is that possible
how about when the earth comes around
and comes around towards the sun in the
winter in our northern winter
it it's speeding up and taking its
sharpest turn and then we don't feel any
of those forces the sharpest turn okay
so this one's really hilarious to me uh
so the sun goes around the earth oh
sorry the earth goes around the sun in
how long how long does it take a year
a year right so uh why don't you go
ahead and get in a car
and do a 360 turn and make it take a year
year
are you going to feel that
dave that's not a that's not let's break
it down 360 degrees 365 days it's about
a degree a year right why don't you get
in a car and drive for 24 hours and over
24 hours veer by one degree are you
that would be equivalent to this
people say well i'm just trying to think
of the the easiest thing i'm just trying
to think of something to say that will
make sense
all right if you're
imagine you're you want to compare that
if you want to compare that to reality
imagine you're in an airplane where you
remove the outer shell of the airplane
you double the speed of the airplane and
you nose dive two miles a minute okay
and that just to follow the curve of the
earth that's the speed that the earth is
curving and when you have when
something's moving and it's curving
that's acceleration okay so big words
justice acceleration is a big word
well it is for you because you're not
using it properly acceleration is rate
when you change off of your vector that
force is equal to acceleration okay yeah
but i just told you right it takes a
year to go around the sun what how how
much are you feeling do you want to
calculate it should we calculate it
together about the spin of the earth the
spin of the earth the spin of the earth
right your drop spin of the earth is
constant two miles do not feel you're
you're falling like if you take a point
in space and you go for an hour you're
falling at the same rate as a skydiver
free falling okay that's ridiculous
right you are curving off of your line
of your trajectory this one
this one i figure i think i figured out
and i think this one is genuine
confusion on your part so i don't i
don't want to hold this one against you
as much as other lies you tell which are
just blatant lies this one is just you
not understanding you're you're trying
to compare motion within the atmosphere
of the earth so you're like oh my gosh
something going through the atmosphere
so fast and it's crazy and we feel it
versus motion in frictionless space do
you not understand that that's not the
same thing right there's the atmosphere
on earth is very thick there's a lot of
friction right so when you try to move
through air there's friction
it doesn't matter you mean it doesn't
matter if that air is spinning with the
earth which you have to believe in your
model um you would feel doesn't matter
you would feel that motion if you're in
an airplane why would you feel the
motion why would you feel the motion
because your your energy is changing
directions and you would have energies
changing directions what about eclipses
guys what about eclipses that's my third
talking point i hope we get to it let's
finish this point um
the your mainstream science says that
because of the spin of the earth because
of the centrifugal force that the water
bulges at the equator 14 miles high
what this is what neil degrasse tyson
and science tells us about the spin of
the earth the water at the equator yes
it does it both does miles high it makes
the earth 29 miles wider at the equator
no no
that's the earth not the water what are
you talking about are you a dude
the the equate the the radius
this is this is what happened you're
very confused
no no stop because you just said a very
specific number and i know why you said
that number the diameter of the earth is
about 27 miles greater at the equator
that's the whole earth you're trying to
pretend that it's all water that there's
just this big
thing of water that's 14 is that what
you're genuinely trying to say are you
that stupid well that's what neil
degrasse tyson says but no he didn't say
that i'll go with you i'll go with you
the earth is bulging so does that mean
that water large bodies of water at rest
near the equator if you hung a plum line
over it that it wouldn't be
perpendicular to the to the surface of
the water it would be off just a little
bit because of that bulge
or just
well what is this
what does the bulge of the equator have
to do with the water well because the
gravity pulls everything to the center
of the earth and yeah all world and if
we have a bulge at the equator a plumb
line which should be vertical
um it should be perpendicular to the
water would not be perpendicular to the
water because the water would be sloping
away because we have a bulge what do you
mean sloping okay a bulge isn't first of
all you're as i just said this has
nothing to do with the water it's the
shape of the earth itself so you're just
completely wrong anyway but second of
all what this is the thing with you guys
you think that the curvature of the
earth is supposed to be you're talking
about a plumb line do you think that the
curvature of the earth is supposed to be
like this or something do you have no
idea how big the earth is do you not
understand that the curvature is not
detectable at the surface of the earth
it's really big it's a really big
horizon we can see both the right we can
see boats go over the horizon but we
can't see the curve
right dave according to your math there
are certain things that should be behind
a curve at certain distances but we can yeah
yeah
but we can't you just lie about them you
just said earlier that we can see things
a thousand miles away are you out of
your mind everybody should be able to
take a telescope then and see something
a thousand miles away why can't they
dave you don't know where it was taking
it from it's infrared cameras go look at
jaytol and media one
and watch all of the he does he's the
special one he can do it nobody else can
do it nobody else can get this footage
oh but they don't dave they just don't
because they don't feel like it is do
you believe that the ground is horizontal
horizontal
it's it's almost perfectly horizontal yes
yes
if you okay
it's a question i think what you're
trying to ask is if you have parallel
planes right if you have two two flat
planes can they be made parallel yes two
flat planes can be made parallel
well what are you saying because nobody
has what i'm saying what you're saying
if you have a horizontal line
on earth
then there's only one point
that would be touching the earth and the
rest would just rise up into space but
all horizontal lines
line up with the horizontal horizon
okay they're all parallel
do they or do they just look like that
because your eyes suck and they can't
just they can't
they can't distinguish between uh arc
seconds of angle
all right well let me let me looking
looking like it perfectly overlaps
doesn't mean that it perfectly overlaps
just because the horizon looks flat
doesn't mean it's perfectly fine it's
left guys to move on to eclipses
ten minutes left i didn't even get to do
all my i did one of my things
it could be 13 minutes
my question is the top of the world
trade towers when they were up are those
floors larger than the lower floors
because for them to be perpendicular
they would have to get larger
right how far apart were they how far
apart were the towers i don't know but
i'm asking about one tower
okay but it doesn't look you're okay it
doesn't matter we're talking about the
distance between the towers or the width
of a tower do you know how much
curvature there is over such a small distance
distance
it is so small that it is 100 negligible
what are you not understanding about
that the earth is really big
so so you do you believe that horizontal
lines are parallel
if you make them parallel what are you
talking about i'm talking about
horizontal lines on earth when you're
you know surveying the land and you have
a horizontal line another one and
another one another one are they parallel
parallel
if you make them parallel
they're not lines right they're not
actual lines do you know that lines are
just approximations right we can draw
lines we can graph lines and do math in
perfect euclidean geometry the earth has
a spherical surface so yeah we can go
that's a line and that's a line and if
we're just looking at less than a mile
yeah it looks really straight but it's
not because the earth is a sphere so
you're not comprehending scale has
anybody measured curvature in a large
body of water at rest a large body of
water needs a container
to hold it in place and has anyone
measured any curvature on resting water
don't don't leave
your drop and your wave which is in your
stupid video they got 10 million views
um drop and wave i don't even know what
you're talking about we talked about
water curves
oh yeah yeah okay now i know you're
talking about that is just a complete
straw man well it's not but but actually
this is what's funniest to me is that
your flatter you debunk yourself with
this level water thing because the funny
thing is that uh so tides exist right
and so on your little pizza world tides
are these little mounds of water that
kind of travel around i don't really
know how else you're gonna explain this
but uh right tides exist right
yeah they do but they don't correlate
the the sun and the moon there it's
there's there's stops stops stops up
stops up no sun in the moon no sun and
moon there are the
the the the water levels go up and down
right and in different places not
everywhere at the same time right so on
your little pizza world you've got a
little mess hold on you get a little
mound of water that's just kind of
traveling around
so i'm sorry but water isn't level on
your pizza world either dave what causes
your high tides
the moon what causes tides the moon and
well there's solar tides and there's
lunar tides right and so when there's a
new moon which means the sun and the
moon are on the same side of the earth
the tide should be bigger but there's
not there's bigger tides when there is no
no
no it is you're absolutely wrong no i'm
not and you can google it right now what
are you talking about when the solar and
lunar tides align that's the highest
tide right guys but you're just saying
it's not because you're just lying i'm
being pushed by ash to say to move on to
the day slash night regions of
illumination okay
right what does that mean
oh well that's that's my second thing i
can try i'll do i'll do it super fast
i'll do it as fast as possible
go on
do you need do you need him to put the
thing up
yeah yeah he might not be able to do
that you know sean what you're thinking
the system has crashed that's why i got
kicked off i mean i can try to i mean
you kind of need the visual but i mean i
can just i'll wing it if you guys want
please we don't we're not going to get
the slides
okay so worry about that
um so this is the funny thing about your
pizza world is that in the northern
hemisphere things are kind of okay not
really but in the southern hemisphere it
all goes to crap and so to try to
explain night and day and seasons which
you absolutely cannot do
you try to make the sun go way out
towards the bottom and you think that
works because it makes it uh the longer
nights right up in the north but uh the
problem is in the southern hemisphere
everything is terrible because you've
got the sun way out towards the edge and
therefore it shouldn't be able to
illuminate very much of the earth but in
the southern hemisphere in like december
and january you've got regions
like uh you know towards the southern
ends of those continents that are almost
there day almost all day so you've got
in 19 20 hours of daylight so you've got
this sun that's traveling around way out
towards the edge because this is how you
like to do it
and it is somehow illuminating almost
all of the outer regions of your pizza world
world
and yet it is somehow not illuminating
the center because areas towards the
north pole have 24 hours of night uh at
that time so unfortunately you can't do
the like antarctica isn't real so the
south pole the
that's not a thing uh these are places
where people live it's not real we don't
say that at all no you say the south
pole isn't real we don't even know
there's people who go there and work there
there
people work at the south pole
yeah yeah prove it okay so
you can get a job there did you know
that civilians can get jobs so the way
you should apply for one i think that'd
be a cool video for you today vine
you're on your upside down world on your
ball world in the north uh norway in
northern alaska we have the 24-hour sun
in june okay and we see the sun and it's
been filmed by millions of people um and
you can watch the sun circle around
makes perfect sense on a ball makes
perfect sense on flat earth we're on the
same page there but 12 months six months
six months later
six months later at equal southern
latitudes you should see the same but
there's no video
no no you don't there's no video of the
24 hour sun there's three or four fake
videos you're clearly fake taken apart
i'm talking right i didn't interrupt you
and uh and there's no
24-hour sun the sun antarctics away from
you it comes towards you and it goes
away unlike the arctic where it's
circling around i'm still talking okay
and there's no 24 hours of daylight but
if you add a dome in there and again
we're looking at the lights in the sky
which is something that doesn't prove
either um when you bring the sun closer
to the dome it wraps around and we can
show you this you know get a dome get a
glass move the light and you'll see that
the light wraps around and that's
exactly what we see in antarctica okay
so i know that you can do your fun
little middle school science project
where you have a little uh you know
serving tray thing and you make a
flashlight do funny things but you
cannot make it actually so this is why
you have your dumb little app your
little thing and your son and stuff it
doesn't actually show the regions of
actual daylight and and night time it
just shows like a little cartoon you
don't actually see it doesn't actually
do these patterns so when you're called
out on this instead of going oh my app
shows the actual patterns and this crazy
arc that would that would make sense so
first of all i'm sorry even though there
are videos at the south pole i'm sorry
that antarctica is not where a bunch of
people live so we don't have all of
these videos like we do way up it
towards the north pole but again as i
said it you know the way
southern region aventa of of our of
argentina like i did in my video
or whatever it's called
which cartoon do you like the best
showing antarctica
what do you mean which cartoon which
cartoon there's no pictures of
antarctica from space
okay well there are so that's really
dumb but let me continue demolishing
okay stop i'm gonna continue demolishing
the idiotic thing you just said uh
earlier so you can do your little thing
flat earthers love to do their little
middle school science project so okay
you've got the thing and blah blah blah
so why can't your flat earth app do it
why can't you actually show the regions
of day and night why can't you look at
that and go yeah look at that i see the
light illuminating this part of the of
the of the flat earth right and i can
see that we have 20 hours of sunlight in
in in southern argentina and i can see
that you just have a little cartoon
doing nonsense and then all of your
idiot people who buy the thing they're
not like oh that looks cool and they
don't actually look at what it does at
all right why can't you why can't you
have it show that right
it it shows up pretty accurately the
amount of day and night and but i can't
show it well i can't show it because the
farther if on the latitude line that
you're on um it's different where you
are so i have to kind of blend them
together it's just a tool to show the
amount of day and night depends
the amount of day and night that
objectively happens in a place depends
on your latitude absolutely 100 on your
ball too when i'm in the north no
i don't think you understand i don't
think you understand what i just said no
no you don't understand what i just said
no i definitely know that you're not
saying anything i'm saying that in in
that town in argentina there is an
objective time where the sun rises and
sets yeah and where you are doesn't
change that there's no place that you
have 17 hours of sun you have daylight
daylight is the illumination of the sky
it's not the sun from the sun
no the sun you're saying that daylight
is not from the sun absolutely so
where is it from
it's making the sunlight then oh no no
the sun is a is lighting up the sky it's
like a photographer you have your main
light and then you have your backlight
the sky is the daylight when the sun is
on the east side of your house right on
the horizon go to the backside of your
house you can read the newspaper well
where's that that sunlight's not what's
it going through your house it's
lighting up the sky it's scattered by
atmospheric particles that's what that's
sunlight yeah well that's what you say
to say a thing that explains why what i
just said is stupid and i have no way to
combat it how come nobody has filmed the
24 hour sun in antarctica they have you
just say it's a lie
they have and you just go oh that's fake
no we don't we don't just go oh that's
fake we should guess what that's why in
my video i don't talk about about
antarctica because you just say it's
fake that's why i picked southern
argentina because people live there and
they have 19 hours of daylight and you
you're just doing a middle school
science project you're not actually
explaining anything you're just going oh
i did a thing in my living room so all
of science is wrong that's what you're doing
the optics of the sky are no way to
prove the shape of the earth you can
well they are yeah well and i just did
it twice
and you have no way to combat anything i
just said so that's why you say that
thing over there
interrupt here flat earth dave what what
would it take because i think um
dave is saying that you know people live
in ushuaia and that they have this and
you could just go and ask the people
though you could go what would it take
to convince you and how important is it
why is it important to you to hold this
belief what does it mean it's not
important to hold the belief i'm looking
for the truth and if the if
if the globe was true then when in
antarctica in the in december you should
be able to see the sun circle all the
way around without dropping you do you can
can
i've seen loads of documentaries where
that happens you can you cannot see it
it's absolutely untrue and we show the
the best one that they have they show at
24 hours of the sun going around and
when it comes around not only is it the
same clouds the sun is in a completely
different position like months different
position so it's all camera trickery and
it's provable it's not just us saying it
so when you know it is just you saying
it yeah well i'm not true and do some
research and then uh get out of your
little ball model and and you'll you'll
see we don't live upside down on a
spaceball flying through down is towards
the center of the earth nobody is upside
down that's one of the dumbest things
you say down is towards the center
of the earth nobody is upside down on
your world there's people upside down
relative to me and you're upside down
relative to them it's a sphere who cares
good luck with that
your response to basic shapes is good
luck with that
are you five years old you have the
intellect of a five-year-old you can't
understand like little kids understand
this stuff you know that i just want to
say that you're more of a condescending
prick than i thought
you well you i i wouldn't say you're
more than anything i thought i know what
you are but uh i'm sorry again to
reiterate reiterate for the third time
your entire identity is based on the the
idea that all the scientists in the
which you are is does not hold a candle
to what you are that's what he claims i
don't believe that um
i've got another question for other dave
professor dave um just so obviously i
can see i mean it means a lot to you as
on the other side of course why does it
annoy you so much the flatter
because it's so i mean first of all a
lot of what i do i mean i do mainly
academic tutorials but i also address
misinformation i'm very passionate about
uh public science literacy and science
denial and flat earth is the bottom of
the barrel so i go after like
anti-vaxxers and stuff like that and
that is a little more sophisticated and
you have to actually understand a little
bit of biochemistry a little bit of
immunology and things like that flat
earth is the only one i just proved the
earth is this fear multiple times in
this exchange based on looking at things
in the sky and thinking that's how we
figured out the earth is the sphere 2000
several thousand years ago it's like the
first thing we figured out so this is
why it's so offensive because it is a
denial of literally all of science
astronomy all wrong geology all wrong
physics all wrong it's so unbelievably
offensive to the entire human race
that's why you're a douchebag and me
calling you stupid has is nowhere near
the magnitude of douche baggery that is
your entire identity you're talking to
him not me right sorry yeah
over there so he believes that
scientists that he never met two
thousand years ago proved that the earth
is a globe when in reality in the 1940s
and 50s and up to the early 60s they
were still teaching flat earth
no they weren't that's just the thing
you're saying
there's globes from hundreds and
hundreds of years ago you can't just say
that like you should show me something
show me a textbook you can't just say oh
this thing i made up is true you're an
idiot what are you talking about we've
known the ptolemaic model which was
reigned supreme from like you know a
hundred or whatever to to the copernican
model used a spherical earth geocentrism
used the spherical earth and then
copernicus and kepler happened and they
wrote books by the way they wrote books
and you can read them that they exist
and we've known about heliocentrism for
500 years since so i don't know what
you're talking about you are completely
pulling that out of your ass nobody
taught a flat earth anywhere for any
measurable amount of time can we um can
we have dave uh tell us how seasons
happen on on the globe
okay so i wish i had the graphic because
it really works really well so there's a
tilt in earth's rotational axis right
it's tilted like this so
one of the hemispheres is is exposing
more of it itself to the sun right and
so you get more direct light versus so
let's say this is the northern
hemisphere this is the southern
hemisphere more of the southern hem the
northern hemisphere is exposed to direct
sunlight so you have longer daylight
right so it's so hard to just do in my
hand like this i i get it i i i understand
understand
it when we're tilted towards it the
sunlight is hitting direct and it's war
it's it's more intensified here and down
here it's spread out more makes sense
yeah because of the curvature so it has
to spread out around a greater area
but isn't the sun so large that all of
the the rays leaving the sun are
parallel and and how would why would the
parallel rays that are a little off to
the left you know hit us direct
are the are the rays leaving the sun
parallel are they leaving not parallel
okay when you have
when you have a certain okay here's a
lateral distance if the sun is directly
hitting the the part of the earth that's
directly facing it that's a certain area
then if you move this way we have this
same lateral distance but there's a lot
of curvature here it's covering a
greater surface area i have the right
question so so can the earth the earth
okay do you want to admit that i just
explained that perfectly and that your
talking point was invalid i know i i
admit that you explained that perfectly
but i have to agree
so we have the pole here and we tilt we
tilt the earth
okay and can you tilt the earth
this way
that's a tilt also right absolutely
absolutely
you're just turning it what are you
doing no no what i'm showing you is here
here we
let's say the sun is over there
and we tilt and we're now directly
towards the we have a more direct angle
we're in agreement on this but if i'm here
here
and i tilt it this way well now the sun
is lower it's it's again it's now
skimming it's now
skimming and it's not hitting as direct
so here's the problem with your seasons
in the north here in december when we're
three million miles closer to the sun
but we'll just ignore that because it's not
not
significant yeah it's not significant so
i don't know why you said it well we're
three million miles closer at sunrise in
no in in december at um at noon when the
sun is 50 degrees in the sky and i look
at the sun i can't feel the i can barely
feel it on my face i i can't get a tan
right but in june when we're farther
away from the sun doesn't matter and at
sunrise when the sun is literally an 89
degree tilt the worst possible angle as
soon as it shows up on the horizon i can
feel the heat and i can get a tan
why is that because in your world it
should be arctically freezing every
morning in the all year long
i genuinely have no idea what you're
saying you're throwing around 89 degrees
i have no idea what you're talking about
okay so you have the you have the the
sun here right the sun and we're tilted
so it's 34 degree tilt well if i tilted
it all the way down to the horizon so
i'm here and the sun's over here okay
that's an 89 degree tilt one degree off
the horizon right any farther it would
be below the horizon the sun's already
lost i have no idea what you're saying
it's because you're stupid dave five
minutes left guys because you're not
getting anything
you're just going if you tilt it this
way this has nothing to do with anything
if the earth is tilted 34 degrees that's
how we are three degrees 23 degrees
whatever if i tilted it 90 degrees the
sun would set
i would set over the pole which doesn't
happen so
five minutes left guys five minutes left
farther the farther i tilt it the more
spread out those rays are well the spin
is the equivalent to the tilt so when
the sun is when i'm spinning away from
the sun the sun's getting lower and
lower and lower it's spreading out
across the sk across the world it should
get colder and colder and colder because
that sun is spreading out
you understand that there's always a
face of the earth there's always the sun
is always
hitting half of the earth
not not according to the time and date
all right but that this isn't always
hitting half of the earth on the ball it
would be but it doesn't yeah
well it does though so what are you
talking about david
you're not listening okay
i am you're just not saying anything i
can tilt so if we were if we're tilted
away from the sun we have our winter now
i tilt it farther it gets really cold
because antarctica or the arctic is
tilted farther away that's why it's cold
in your world right but it's not what do
you mean if if we tilt it further it's not tilted further it's
not tilted further it's it's a 23 degree right axial tilt so
it's a 23 degree right axial tilt so what do you mean tilt it further what
what do you mean tilt it further what are you thinking about why is it colder
are you thinking about why is it colder in the arctic in the winter than it's
in the arctic in the winter than it's cold than it is in florida in the winter
cold than it is in florida in the winter i just explained it earlier i i know
i just explained it earlier i i know it's getting more direct sunlight if
it's getting more direct sunlight if there's absolutely absolutely so don't
there's absolutely absolutely so don't interrupt
interrupt look if the axis is tilted away then it
look if the axis is tilted away then it is
is dude i just explained this how do you
dude i just explained this how do you not get this no no you're not getting it
not get this no no you're not getting it listen
listen you can just say that but i actually
you can just say that but i actually explained it you're you're not getting
explained it you're you're not getting this okay
this okay hey dave dave we're not ready we've been
hey dave dave we're not ready we've been running out of time we've run out of
running out of time we've run out of time
time i'm just going to let you guys tell the
i'm just going to let you guys tell the viewers where they can find you and
viewers where they can find you and support you so professor dave we'll
support you so professor dave we'll start with you thank you for coming on
start with you thank you for coming on professor dave thank you can you tell
professor dave thank you can you tell the viewers where they can find and
the viewers where they can find and support you please professor dave
support you please professor dave explains
so professor dave what socials do you want professor dave
what socials do you want professor dave just youtube channel professor dave
just youtube channel professor dave explains
explains all right so professor dave's youtube
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subscribe if you want to check his stuff out huge thank you for coming on flat
out huge thank you for coming on flat earth dave do you want to tell the
earth dave do you want to tell the viewers where they can find you
viewers where they can find you you can find me at flatearthdave.com but
you can find me at flatearthdave.com but i'm thinking of making it making it
i'm thinking of making it making it professor
professor flatearthdave.com.com because thank you
flatearthdave.com.com because thank you we get to make up to being professors
we get to make up to being professors that's always nice yeah i actually
that's always nice yeah i actually taught at an accredited university
taught at an accredited university though
multiple degrees i have a master's degree and they fired you
degree and they fired you can i get those bitcoins can i get those
can i get those bitcoins can i get those bitcoins
bitcoins we've got another debate coming up in a
we've got another debate coming up in a minute
minute take care and you will bye buddy
take care and you will bye buddy thank you for your time thank you cheers
thank you for your time thank you cheers cheers good night
cheers good night wow they make for a nice couple don't
wow they make for a nice couple don't they
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