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to be at the point of your life where
you don't care about being judged you
can be in a room of a million people and
they all hate you and you walk in and
you go like this if you just got here
yes we have some other obligations of
course obligation yeah do you like doing
the interviews no no I never did like
them no no no I'll hopefully this one
will be good for you oh there are good
people get some Marvin that's great yeah
yeah is there anything you just
particularly don't want to talk about no
I am that's the best thing about me man
I'm open book yeah wherever the the
podcast goes is yeah it's good enough
for me we've sort of a million copies of
our book in seven months appreciate it
thank you we were number two behind
Michelle Obama for 12 weeks yeah they
say all this yeah but the audiobook is
something that we're pushing hard
especially in the UK because it's easier
yeah and we've sold over 650,000
audiobooks Wow
the reason why is because it's the first
time anybody's ever done the audiobook
the way we did it yeah I listen to Suze
came out listened so okay that's all so
you understand how we did concept right
pop podcast part part radio show pal
part reading the whole book so yeah and
I'm used quite heavily involved with the
chap who did it with you you still who
still gone was it just a one-off it was
a one-off
yeah so you know we're trying to find
the right ghostwriter is very hard yeah
but it's not the ghost writers you found
in your voice yeah so I had to find my
voice I actually brought three of the
chapters right so when you give someone
the chapters then they can read it in
your voice okay I get it
yeah so wasn't the ghost writers fault
to begin with like the ones I didn't
hire yeah it was my fault
yeah so I was there reason you didn't
write yourself I was you know I'm not a writer
writer
yeah even though I write all my blogs
and all my posts and stuff like that but
I want to make sure that it was done so
99 percent was me yeah I was want to
make sure that it was professional mmm
so you will put that nice little toast
on the end of it yeah so if I'm gonna
spend this much time
the product out there I want to make
sure since I self-published it I want to
make sure that it was done right yeah
would you ever do one yourself do you
think yeah easy
yeah yeah even though I'm not a writer I
just have a person edited this time and
yeah I go from there
yeah yeah I've done I've written 14
books okay I'm interested yeah yeah and
I'm actually it's kind of like coming in
from the other I've written all mine and
now I'm thinking about getting some help
it's um I think it's better that way
because you can sit back and just be the
mastermind yes you have to sit back and
say oh [ __ ] oh [ __ ] you can sit back and
be a mastermind son sit in your bed at
night time ago ah [ __ ] write it down and
say look this needs to be in there and
then you and works out well for me and
you got the accountability haven't you
because he's so hard to sit down and
keep yourself that's right because
you're you're doing too many things yeah
this way me my fiancee reread it over
and over again I mean we we changed so
many chapters yeah and then we rewrote
him and then he helped out so it works a
lot better you'll see it'll be it'd be a
masterpiece yeah and how did you find
him honestly he fell in my lap now 15
yeah alright I got lucky man someone
someone new someone they see he's not
even a ghostwriter
he just does it what is he a he's a
journalist yeah never asked that a
ghostwriter alright so he heard a bust
my podcast was very familiar with me to
begin with was helped most the other
people I had to interview and they go
and they wrote all these big books and
I'm so raw and real I needed someone
that was able to write raw and real yeah
and that's how it came to be yeah
because he is very natural it doesn't
feel like a very highly edited scripted
book I think they edited when we got to
edit it was yeah a half already
yeah probably if he came back yeah
because like don't don't change a lot
because it's how I talk yeah you know
yeah and I always prefer the audiobooks
because like I listened to it and I hear
I've heard your voice before I meet you
right so there's that sort of remote
connection there whereas if you read the
book I can't hear your voice I don't
know what you sound like you don't know
me Yeah right no [ __ ] book Yeah right
yeah great so sure so is there Kirsten
that Kirsten you can say whatever you
want however you want it so if you wanna
if it feels natural yeah okay yeah we're
good with that aren't we yeah we've had
definitely a few good ones though David
thank you very much for coming and doing
the podcast I appreciate you have me and
you're here to your dinner public speech
is that right yes it's my first time in
London so I'm doing a speaking event
about 500 people so we'll see how that
goes tomorrow yeah is that it goes well
is that something you've done a lot of
I've done a lot of public speaking yeah
a lot of speaking yes and something you
enjoy doing
I don't enjoy doing it nah no you said
you don't enjoy doing interviews and
people go why do you do it one big
reason why I can't stand it
public speaking being on camera Isis
started real bad growing up so you're
always having to face these [ __ ]
demons that come out of everywhere you
know people think you know because I'm
decently successful now successful not
monetarily but just I've overcome a lot
and I have a nice-looking resume but I'm
still everyday you know this badly so
this is why I do it I do it for my own
personal you know fears and younger
thing but [ __ ] man I bet her stuttering
his [ __ ] so you got man up man yeah it's
funny that you're sitting there saying
that like things like public speaking
you find hard when you've done all the
crazy and sane stuff that you've done
because I do them alone right
I do Malone yeah you know like I I
picked these hard things that most
people think you can't finish anyway so
you know you go out there you grind
you're alone you're in your own head I
work best alone right I work best alone
so those are easier mmm
you know I figure out a way to kind of
challenge you know kind of challenge
your mind channel it and challenge at
the same time and I figured out a way to
kind of just become have
destructable toolbox and in your mind so
those are easier yeah so and how are you
finding now you're very public right you
would say famous you come to London
which isn't where you live and you get
recognized everywhere you speak in front
of 500 people how you finding that face
of challenging your mind in your life
it sucks that's nice I'm gonna be honest
with you man because uh but for some
reason you know I have I have a gift I
have a gift it's not a gift of gab it's
just a gift to say look man I'm
vulnerable I'm very very human
I'm not God's gift I'm not Superman I'm
not Batman I'm not even Robin but I did
figure out some things along my journey
so if I kept myself introverted and
closed in no one would ever you know
realize man that that big hard tough guy
over there man you know he's just some
superhuman and they put a title on me
this way had to break myself down let
people know that anyone can be who they
want to be mm-hmm
so I think you're kind of like this
paradox because on the one hand a lot of
people are inspired by you
right your book was big in the UK as
well as America when it came out I mean
I'm big into audiobooks I listen to
hundreds a year and I listen to yours as
soon as it came out and a lot of people
were talking about it and they were
inspired by it definitely and they felt
like they could be better versions of
themselves but that's not the one
actually when the other extreme you do
superhuman stuff you do thousands of
press ups you run hundreds of miles
right so I'm kind of like its preparing
for this interview I'm like on the one
hand he's superhuman on the one hand
everyone can relate to him right so so
GTC what I understand I'm trying to say
yeah I get it
it's uh it's tough yeah but so I had a
starting point in the starting point was
this very scared
immature fragile kid but through
figuring out this fragile kid I found
out what [ __ ] through all this [ __ ]
muck and [ __ ] this can come out the
other end
person that was 4030 pull up she was
miles and miles and miles at a time but
we all had these ability
not just to run and do pull-ups but
these abilities that once we go back
into our dark holes that a lot of us
have a lot of us come from you know
insecurities a lot of issues but we
don't want to visit that place places
scary places something that we want to
forget about I had the courage
finally to go back in there and organize
that [ __ ] mmm get it organized in my
mind and figure out you know where to
start from so but the journey led me to
the so called superhuman stuff that I do
now yeah so when he said you had the
courage finally what does finally mean I
was haunted so we all have these voices
in her head
we like to not listen to him the one
that comforts us and keeps us nice and
warm and cuddly and gives us cookies and
milk at nighttime and [ __ ]
we like that voice that voice the one we
want to always share which is why people
don't like to listen to me a lot some
people do some people don't the only
thing that changes you is being real so
basically you know I had to have the
courage to go back in there because
nothing was getting done mmm
I kept on going to that nice cuddly
voice in my head saying you know what
you don't need to do this that's too
much work man you've earned this you
deserve this and that mentality got me
to 297 pounds fat out of shape to me a
loser to me making $1,000 a month and
making a ton of mistakes because
mistakes happen on the easy side of life
you take the easy road the easy path
there's a lot of mistakes over there the
hard journey you'll make too many
mistakes over here because it's too hard
you only repeat it hmm so it's
challenging and if you would you say
you've built this almost like sadistic
quality where you almost enjoy the pain
I don't enjoy it it's necessary yeah
it's necessary so every morning I wake
up it's not just about working out but
for me working out has been a very big
part of my mental growth so for me if I
am not challenging myself every day and
I swear to God people will not believe
it I was over almost
300 pounds twice in my life a person
that does that twice in his life does
not enjoy cardiovascular like a yeah so
people can put anything they want to in
their head I did realize one thing the
things I don't enjoy that I still do
that's where growth is at and that's for
me the only place growth is at is in
that very uncomfortable prio in that
uncomfortable zone yeah so I have to
visit it every single day mmm so I mean
when you say visit every day what sort
of things are you doing daily to push
yourself so for instance today I woke up
and I just got to London and I don't
know where to run here it's very
difficult to run around this place so
someone said hey you can run around out
here like I run this one-mile block and
I'm like you know what I'm not doing that
that
so I went down to the gym and there's
this like crazy elliptical trainer but
it's not a normal elliptical trainer
it's one that you like almost self power
and it's very yes no electric you know
very difficult yeah so I've gotten that
thing and I realized man this [ __ ] sucks
and that's like two minutes like I don't
want to do this so right then I realized
hmm it looks like we're gonna be here
for a while that's why I did that for
two hours and 45 minutes Wow yeah so I'm
not saying do that but that's something
I did today
watch my mind so you know what let's not
do this today I said well since we're my
mind went there I redirected and said
just for having that week thought we're
gonna be on here for a while right so it
does sort of sound like you're punishing
part of your mind in a way punishment
maybe not be the right word I want my
mind to know who's in charge so for the
better part of 26 years my mind was in
charge of me yeah which is why I made
all these horrible decisions once you
take control of your mind
you start making decisions for yourself
versus your mind making decisions for
you right do you have any routines or
particular habits that help you do that
cuz it almost sounds like you've got an
unconscious voice
right and then you the conscious David
comes in and sort of overpowers em
almost right we all do
yeah we all have that these two voices
for me my routine is every night I
stretch out that stretched out for two
or three hours every single night
without fail yeah it wanna stretch now
I'm thinking about my plan for the next
day now I'm thinking about all these
different obstacles that may come up so
basically a lot of us aren't prepared
for life we get up willy-nilly in his
hope life is going to happen it is going
to happen but it's going to happen with
the prepared mind or unprepared mind
most people attack life with the
unprepared mind what I do is I try to
account for all things that could happen
might happen probably will happen and
then the unknowns so basically I can't
account for everything but I do know
there could be some things that come up
in life that you need be ready for I
know for a fact I'm not gonna want to
work out tomorrow
therefore I'm preparing my mind for that
mmm I don't want to do that I know
tomorrow you'll come with some difficult
decisions to make it may come with
getting a phone call saying someone died
this happened that happened I'm always
prepared myself not in a morbid way but
just like look man be ready for life mmm
don't let life just start attacking you
left and right make sure that you start
to build a mental armor so then you're
ready for life and that comes with a
very physical way in the physical help
start to mental mmm do you think that's
a lot of thought your background your
training the hell weeks you've done and
all of that you think that's create that
discipline in your mind it helped but
honestly it was a I realized a young age
how to change myself was to discipline
in the military didn't teach me that it
was some of us I had zero discipline
zero self-discipline and I realized I
have to start developing this and I
started really because I was horrible at
reading and I was horrible at writing I
have so many learned disabilities not
even funny so I just sit down at the
table it's been so much time in this
reading and writing and
and that kind of translated over to my
self-discipline with with working out
mmm so that's where it started I started
off about 16 years old I said well I'm a
fourth grade reading level you know let
me go ahead now and start really
focusing because I'm not getting the
military can I got passed the test yeah
that's where it started for me mm-hmm
I think that's another thing why you've
been so popular is because you have
these great strengths but you share what
happened with your dad you share a pan
with your reading your dyslexia and it's
almost like yeah I know my strengths but
I know my weaknesses and failings and
vulnerabilities as well and you kind of
own both right do you think that's
important very important it's more
important to own your weaknesses you got
to really triple down on those man
because why you want to become a full
human being we like to run away from
weaknesses like for instance if you're
good at running all you want to do is
run if you're great at reading you have
several books but we don't do those
things that were not good at so for me I
realized [ __ ] man like I keep on running
away from these things I'm not good at I
have to dive into these things I had to
become one with these things and that's
what happened and so I own them both
yeah and I talk very openly about it
both mmm do you ever have a diver you
just think [ __ ] here can't be us to do
anything I'm not going for a run I'm not
stretching I'm doing nothing every day
yeah you say you have the filler you
don't have to die every day ever let
yourself have a day we always watch Netflix
Netflix
never because you guys chill Netflix I'm
hard to know I can't do it I can't do it
there may be some days I get up with
poopy pants and I'm like you know what man
man
[ __ ] this man like what am i training
for yeah I have no race in the docket
why am I having this this such a
structured life why and I'm like you
know what I'm good
we've done it I retire every day yeah
I'm done with the [ __ ] and I sit around
I say okay and then this is my thought
process so you want to be normal so you
just want to be like everybody else that
roams the world not knowing the power
that's in them being fine with being
mediocre you want to go back to who you were
were
hon Davis
I don't like [ __ ] that man I had you
have that conversation with yourself
every day not every day it's those bad
days yeah those bad this guy see a whole
bunch of people walking around out here
who have no idea how talented they truly
are now i'ma talk about talent like some
god-given ability talent that sometimes
you have to hone you have to work on and
you have to harness yourself and they
just walk around this on their phones
this clueless how powerful they are
mm-hmm so you seem really committed
really focused you put your mind to
something you achieve it and how does
someone who's ordinary or listening or
watching get more committed achieve more
success the biggest thing you have to do
is shut off technology you have to go
dark remember that is you have to be
quiet in your mind and get away from
people we love being around people we
love talked and we love we love parties
we love all that [ __ ] it's okay to be
alone it's also okay to be unhappy it's
okay to be unhappy sometimes man
it's okay so you know what man I'm
[ __ ] up so y'all go to the truth first
who are you you get really accountable
it say okay Who am I what's the truth
about me you get to that dark place in
your mind figure out it may take months
may take years figure out your purpose
figure out what you want to be in life
and then from there okay I have my
purpose it may take a long time no one
knows their purpose because it's too
loud find your purpose from there all
right guests are planning people love
the planning phase because it's very
comfortable and then from the planning
phase you get to go to execution so the
execution phase would be all hate
because that's where the real work
begins and that's when the failure
happens and the failure and the failure
but you know that's that that's kind of
how you have to do it yeah so is there
any part of thank you by the way is
there any part of what you do in your
day they actually just really enjoy it's
not overcoming demons or overcoming
voices you just actually think this just
actually makes me happy and I really
like it what's funny man yeah
fiancee is one of them but honestly
what's funny about this is people may
hear all this and say god this guy's
such a structured guy talk about demons
getting over things that's not like it's
whole life it's true but I'm the most
peaceful person on the planet Earth even
with like the conversations I got going
to the gym I have to do is have to do
that every day I'm winning everything
I'm winning the the other voice in my
head so I'm I'm very I'm I'm at peace of
myself the things that do for fun are
like me bettering myself yeah I love
sports I love watching sports but also
love accomplishing and overcoming myself
every day because every day is a battle
every day is a better because your mind
wants to choose the path of least
resistance every day but you don't
become better by by ever doing that you
become normal and I don't want to be normal
normal
hmm so it may not be alive for everybody
but I found a lot of peace and not being
normal in my life so if you could define
happiness for you maybe we maybe we did
there but if you could define happiness
for you what would that be so overcoming
yourself yeah it at all costs whatever
that takes to be at the point of your
life where you don't care about being
judged you can be in a room of a million
people and they all hate you and you
walk in and you go like this because not
because you're angry at them because you
know yourself inside and out and you
know that you've put yourself to hell to
be where you're at today you've walked
the walk you've talked to talk and
you've walked the walk and that's to me
what it's all about it's all about
putting those boots on the ground and
getting after it every day and once you
do that you have a feeling about
yourself that no one can ever take away
or even understand yeah so your book you
can't hurt me I'll find the title really
I think is a great title and forgive me
if I'm being a bit bit bold here but I
felt like it was a great title because I
did feel like you're quite hurt oh yeah
with what happened you dad your
upbringing I felt like you were hurt
right and so this is paradoxical
look uh you can't hurt me because of I'm
owning my life right but I felt like you
were hurt
oh yeah life beat me the [ __ ] up bad hmm
yeah I mean I was uh knocked out in the
12th round of a 15 round you know
heavyweight bout I was knocked out but
what happened was in the 12th round when
the Challenger turned his back on me I
was getting the [ __ ] up and I got up in
won the next three rounds and knocked
out my forgotten the 15th round so
that's my mind if I can't hurt me I was
hurt man like you literally I had to
overcome so much those first 26 years of
my life and I still do every day today
you know it's not over but the mentality
of can't hurt me is just that I'm at
what's in front of you man you have to
face you have to confront you have to
overcome and move forward so my father
you know some of the kids that bullied
me my learning disabilities all these
things I went through a life stuttering
you know has so many different issues
failing and failing and failing and
overcome or they would it overcame me so
I I'm a real believer sorry to just jump
in but I don't wanna forget this point
I'm a real believer that who we are and
how we're living our life is to a
certain degree trying to overcome the
voids we had as kids right and how we
were raised and and like I feel like
that story of all the pain you
experience that is who you are
mm-hmm yeah those those scars are real
those scars are proof that you know your
past is real mm so they're never gonna
go away
I own them but um I'm proud of my
childhood I'm proud because without all
of these lessons in life and everybody
says it's [ __ ] I mean I mean because
I was able to look at my childhood and
how I grew up as the ultimate training
ground for my life someone there has to
be some people in this on this planet
earth who have my mentality as gross as
it is to some people and as far off as
it is and not understood
there has to be some people like me on
this planet Earth has to be some
warriors out there that are able to take
this mindset and do something with it so
that right there once you are able to
look at your life and realize that all
these bad things are actually the
ultimate training ground for what you're
going to and you know encounter in life
you start looking at your past very differently
differently
mmm do you think that's still got your
pause still driving you now everyday not
at all
no no long because that what I'm doing
now there's not enough fuel in my past
cuz you've owned it I've owned it so it
out yeah it's kind of weird man once you
own that and once you sort out that
flame goes out but so to some Drive I
guess cuz you have yes right I mean
you're trying to get rid of using how
powerful anger is it is a very very
powerful thing but it can't overcome
everything no were you angry then I was
angry once I was able to uncover the rug
yeah and look at all these different
shells that I collected over the years
and say wow that [ __ ] me up and that
will [ __ ] me up even even worse than
that one and [ __ ] that one was real bad
and because what happens is when you
start to collect all these shells and
these shells are bad things of your life
and you put them in your nice treasure
chest and you hide them you know because
it reminds you of where you're at but
you don't want to visit him all the time
when I started visiting these shells I
was like my god man this was a it was a
tough tough way to go but now looking
back on a man I don't have any more
shells mmm so now you have to learn to
now what's your passion yeah so now my
passion is still trying to find out what
is what is left what is more is it can I
be driven without the anger and I can be
on what is left and what is more for you
I've only dissected 44 years of my life
while I was still living I'm still in my
live autopsy so you know right now until
I'm dead I'm still examining human potential
potential
how far can the mind go how far can we
go as human being so that's you know I'm
the I call myself to Stephen Hawking's
of of the mind you know he was obsessed
with everything he ever dove into you
know the guy couldn't walk or anything
you know so he was like the mine that's
one thing he didn't wanna lose and I
became obsessed with it cause it's the
one thing that controlled me so I became
obsessed with this where is this [ __ ]
thing up here that just has me on a
tight rope and this walks me into all
these horrible decisions I'm making
makes me feel so pathetic and weak and
insignificant and dumb and stupid in
everything I got to get control of this
thing mmm but it's amazing that wants to
get control that thing how far you can
go what sort of things are you doing to
get control your mind is it still these
fitness challenges and things or is it
Fitness challenges are part of it but
it's mostly now really I'm big into
visualization and also self-talk but
also like where do I want to be in life
where do I see myself and then I start
making these plans and how I'm going to
get there and I don't deviate from that
plan so that's kind of how I do them now
I mean it's a lot more to it than that
there's a lot of quiet time I shut out a
lot of noise I only have people my life
that that need to be there if you don't
need to be in my life I'm not about
acquiring more friends I'm not about
noise I'm about okay are you trying to
go somewhere you can you can jump on
board if not I don't want to hear all
your problems give a solution for your
problem that's I'm all about right now
so I'm not about whining [ __ ] and
complaining I'm about okay we need to go
this way mmm so that's the biggest thing
you said earlier and I might be
paraphrasing the words about you know
you want to find other crazy people on
the planet you know these other really
people who want to figure out the mind
people who want to do amazing things
right have you met many people like that
have you got some people that you look
at that and you go yeah you'd be an
adversary to me you you know you you
bring out the best in me
I don't I forget his name and I'm not
trying to meet him anytime soon that's
not it but I'm fascinated with the guy
free solo mm-hmm I he's another guy very
to me even though I'm not climbing rocks
like he did he has a passion to do
something and he's in at all costs and
what he was doing what he did I'm not so
impressive what he did I'm impressed
with how he shut the whole world out
when he was doing it he didn't care
about to me this I see it and I may be
totally off I'm not trying to speak from
out know him let me make that clear yeah
to be able to pull that off you have to
be willing to accept death yet we won't
accept you're not gonna see your loved
ones anymore you can't care about your
loved ones when you're in that rock
nothing mattered to him with but that
rock those people fascinate me those
people who are able to put themselves in
a place like that and very few people
understand that to want something so
badly I'm not saying that because I
don't think he believed that he was
gonna die I don't I believe that he was
willing to sacrifice everything to pull
that off those are the people and
there's very few people like that mmm
who are willing to say you know what man
you don't get me because your feet are
nice and firm on the ground that's where
you want to put them but for me there's
more to life than that and for him that
lasted I don't know three four hours
left someone that took him I don't know
it took him a while it's over now
he risked everything for just a few
hours on the rock and I've done that
with my own self with my own personal
life is I've risked so much but but what
he gained and what I've gained in these
three or four hours in these moments are
something that people will never never
know because they've never put
themselves on the rock for three or four
hours and put everything on the rock and
that's something that very few people
can understand so they they think he's
crazy and those the people I can't talk
to you mmm because it's not craziness
he found something like I found
something I found this I'm exploring
this he was exploring this he exploded
on the rock
I explored in different in different
venues so those that those are the
amazing people that's where I find
amazing who are willing to say look
honey I love you but you have to
understand something I have to go away
for a while here I may not be with you a
long time because it takes a hundred
percent focus to pull this off I need quiet
quiet
I need dedication these sacrifice from
myself yeah I need full support because
it's gonna cost everything to do this
one thing that takes three or four hours
mmm that's the dedication I'm looking
for and that's the dedication that does
not exist in this world
mm-hmm does not wooden you say does not
accept him and you know like it's hard
to find yeah
so I say does not it's like this it does
yeah it's so rare that you might say
doesn't exist yeah I mean literally like
especially nowadays the fact that he's
rare makes it special it makes it very
special but what makes it so crazy to me
is so many people had that ability mmm
they haven't taken the time to see what
they want in life therefore he's crazy
I'm crazy they put a title on us anyone
at i/o does to people a title it's the
greatest separator of all time it allows
you to go away and your comfort zone the
saying he's just nuts he's special
special person that gives you get out of
jail free card you can go ahead and be
normal now because we're special people
no we found what we want in life it's
all this so it is a very few people
they're all confused life's confusing
because they make it confusing
hmm so when you say I'm fascinated by
this bit you said you know the sacrifice
the choir the obsessive nature to climb
the rock or to run as far as you do and
the thing that you gained what was it
that you gained in those few hours of
doing those amazing feats what do you
gain so in the first hundred mile race I
did I wasn't prepared for it and I won't
go deep into the story but I detailed
well on the book basically I read 101
miles in 19 hours and six minutes unprepared
unprepared
[ __ ] on myself piss blood down my leg
had 30 miles to go
horrible worst pain of my entire life in
that 19 hours in six minutes that's all
it was
I lived 100 years I was able to pack 100
years in 19 hours and six minutes all
the emotions the highs and lows the the
trauma the failure the success the
victories everything you can put in a
life I put it in 19 hours and six
minutes and the beauty that comes out
the other side of that you what happens
in that timeframe we here at Mile 70 and
you're all [ __ ] up and your body is
destroyed and you have 31 miles to go
and you're not 31 miles to go in the
worst shape of your life with 31 miles
to go it's in that 31 miles that I was
able to crack open another part of the
human mind
a part that very few people are able to
examine because why they're not willing
to go there like back to the rock I
guarantee you when he was climbing that
thing and he had ropes on he was
thinking [ __ ] man I can only imagine
this is gonna be but no ropes at all
making some of these moves that I'm
falling with ropes you have to go to a
different focus the the focus has to be
so heightened that very few people they
even understand that but they have it in
them they have it in them to go there
but you have to go to a place of fear of
suffering of pain of doubt and that's
when your mind if it if it knows it's
not going to quit it opens up and once
it opens up that's my 40% room once you
can open open your mind up when you know
it's not going to quit it finds more it
finds more focus it finds more power
finds more Drive and that's what gets
you through 231 miles I said that's
that's what gets him so hyper focus on
that one little nodule to put his finger
on and that's what you find in those
moments but without those moments you
don't know what you're capable of
because you're living a very structured
do you think it's changed you as a
person having opened that part of your
mind is it like something that you've
seen that you can't unsee is it
addictive is it something you want to a
place you want to go back to again that
it's not addictive at all because you
don't want to live there you know but
it's definitely a place that makes you
look at people very differently because
once you see it's different if if I was
born with a silver spoon and everything
was given to me and life came easy but
knowing where I came from and where I'm
at now just because I was able to crack
open a few more doors
that's what's disappointing for me for
other people you know so it's not that I
want to live there I know I can go there
mmm and once again I know other people
can go there so I guess that's the thing
with me is I know I had the ability now
to go to a place that's very very hyper
focused that I can accomplish some
pretty amazing feats not because I'm
amazing because I allowed my mind to be
open minded for the possibilities of
what can I achieve okay if you said
before failure you must have some pretty
strong views on failure having anyone
who's not read your book it's called by
the way you can't hurt me if you haven't
got it you should get it I think I
understood the day it came out and you
talked a lot about it in that book but
you want to just talk about that briefly
here you've your thoughts on failure how
to battle it defeat it accept it well
think about it's funny man all these
catchphrases people always say you know
a failure is a part of life and figure
is how you grow I've said all that stuff
before but it really is a bunch of [ __ ]
it really is man I'm gonna be honest
with you man I'm so tired that I'll back
already know I'm so tired of hearing all
these [ __ ] cliche [ __ ] you know
like goal-setting you [ __ ] posters
and all that [ __ ]
half the people who write that [ __ ]
aren't even doing this [ __ ] you're
talking about mmm half the people talk
about failure you know they're [ __ ]
there is sitting back at some nice house
and we reflected talking about so it
just it makes me [ __ ] nuts the reason
why I believe I could talk him failures
because I'm still feeling today and I
filled in a major way and I'm and I'm
living when I'm talking so many people
who talk about all this [ __ ] there there
has been there people who used to do
back in the day not talk about it are
it's something that you should be afraid
of it should be afraid of but that's why
you should go out there and challenge
yourself to fail because if you're not
failing that something that means you've
set your goals to pass to succeed
everything you do which means you're not
setting your goals high enough so for me
okay I won't go out and break the
Guinness Book of World Records for
pull-ups lofty goal which is why I
failed it twice before I finally got it
I knew going into everything I've ever
done in my life maybe still training
three times before I got it and
everything I've ever done in my life
took me three times before I got it I
knew that there was a huge possibility
of failure but what I gained from
failure is this when you see a movie and
you watch a movie about a person who
keeps failing in at the end they succeed
how do you feel after you watched that
movie I liked it
amazing yeah yeah I become the movie mmm
I want to feel how I feel watching
someone else in the movie when I watched
rocky get his ass kicked and I watched
all these different things of failure I
was able to put myself there said God
man how much do you feel now that you
finally got there
that's what failure has done to me I
want so many things it wants someone
succeed at the end of it it's like god I
want to feel like that but failure
causes that one feeling hmm without that
failure involves you don't have that
feeling if you just pass and you succeed
and you're great that feeling yeah okay
I'm good
what takes you years months years to
accomplish because you just can't get
over the hump but you continue going
back to the drawing board you're looking
for those few seconds after you finally
figure out the equation whatever the
equation may be to get you to finally
pass to succeed I live for that feeling
but I can't get that feeling without
going through [ __ ] I feel this equation
I filled this one I felt this one I
filled this 100 figured it out so you
start to feel it before you even pass
before you even get to the success part
and then once you succeed the feeling is
unbelievable and you take that feeling
of success to failure and you put it in
your cookie jar you say I'll come back
and get you again I don't need you again
down the road in my life mmm to call on
you so basically then the level of
satisfaction in the success is directly
linked to the size of the failures the
bigger the failures the better the
feeling of success right does that
become addictive it does yeah it does it
becomes so addictive that you don't mind
family anymore mmm because you know now
oh I just [ __ ] next time I bit off on
something real big yeah which means the
feelings get me really big yeah so yeah
that's what I mean it takes failure to
get the best deal in the world mmm do
you think the biggest battle in all of
this is blocking out what everyone else
thinks about you yes most of us fail in
life because we're afraid of what
everyone around you was thinking that's
a horse of percent truth so we live by
the narrative of other people when I
first called a recruiter to be a Navy
SEAL denars torsion in 97 pounds the
first recruiter looked at me and said
you're not gonna be able to make this
man so what he was doing was he's
projecting his energy on me he knew he
couldn't be a [ __ ] Navy SEAL so god
help this black guy cuz I was only the
36th african-american to make it through
in over 70 years how does a black fat
guy gonna make it through in my ass
even even want to try so he's projecting
so a lot of us who are negative people
all we do is project how we feel on
other people so what happens is there's
a lot of negative people walk around the
planet Earth who are afraid to try
because everybody a lot of people are
very negative in this world so we are
afraid to fail why I told you man
doesn't even try to dude just chill out
relax why he's so crazy right so
obsessed so all that stuff drives the
the quitting mind I call it the mind
wants to quit the mind is tired the my
entire demise deserving the mine thinks
it's very deserving so yes the the
biggest problem this world is other
people not yourself
it's other people in your head they are
puppet master in you pretty much on your
life and is that why your you've talked
a lot in this podcast about getting rid
of noise quiet aloneness is that part of
that equation it's it's all a part of it
because I realized once I was talking to
myself the right way and all this [ __ ]
wasn't in my mind
wow I went from this piece-of-shit kid
who thought he was dumb not successful
insecure who stuttered when I first saw
somebody to a person who can now do all
these things just because I now control
my whole mind yeah I don't care a lot
people say they don't care but they they
care like my son says I don't care every
time he says it I don't care it means he
can't easy care when you get to the
point where you really [ __ ] don't
care you don't have to decide you're
dangerous you become very very dangerous
I'm not saying don't care like I don't
care if I do that no when you don't care
about other people and how they view you
about how you walk on you talk how you
dress would you want to go with your
life you know growing up I didn't want
to anybody I want to be in the military
because why some of my black friends I
was afraid of what they think mm-hmm you
know why would I join the [ __ ]
military man how the [ __ ] you wanna do
that [ __ ] I was afraid of what other
people thought about me so now I'm not
going to military I know you wanna
[ __ ] join the military I tell you
guys afraid what you thought
once again man you allow other people to
shackle your mind mmm and so as to is
the worst thing in the world do you
think you could go the other way and
maybe become a bit cold if you don't
care what anyone thinks if you don't say
your kids you know that is they're not
the people around do you don't care what
they think
that's the thing about it you have to
have an understanding of what not caring
means if your fiance and your kids don't
believe in you you can't care what they think
think
that means you chose the wrong support
staff there has to be so ice wire a lot
of people don't understand one another
your support staff has to be like if I
want to go out and do whatever it is my
support staff is you know my fiancee if
she's like you know what you know I
don't think that you should be doing
that I have to take it you know why so I
could be open-minded so so so why are
you saying this but she's saying it
because of her you know that's not
that's not the right thing because I
need backing to do what I'm going to do
and open-mindedness I need support
so yeah it's you gotta be very clear
thinking about all that stuff
are there not times though and it's just
a question and if you've got smart
people around you and they're giving you
good advice and you're not listening to
it can they could become a point when
you're just so blinkered sometimes they
don't listen to good advice from smart
people you gotta make sure they're smart
and I've got your best interests at
heart again that's it
yeah so that's why I got like I said
before like you know several minutes ago
my circle is very small I make sure I
didn't handpick these people because I'm
like so so you don't want people in your
corner they're like oh let me patch on
your back forever [ __ ] you do I don't
want people Pat me on the [ __ ] back
because I [ __ ] woke up in the morning
no so you don't want that you want
people who are honest with you were
gonna tell you what the [ __ ] is honest
honest and truthful people so someone
who's honest and truthful who has lived
is accountable for the whole personal
life that's what you want your corner
said hey you know you're pretty [ __ ]
dumb for doing this dude like this is
not smart or your being
you know you're being a turd today
you're not getting after it that's when
you want your corner so you don't what a
lot of people handpick people to be in
their corner who kissed their [ __ ]
ass you don't want that no no so you're
very selective of who I'm select yet but
you'll listen to those people will you
have to yeah you have to
so what am i big one of my best cause
I'm open-minded
to the right people but I don't respect
a lot of people cuz how am I going to
respect you not you personally sure but
anybody if you're not [ __ ] grinding
every day and I mean working out getting
the gym really going out there and
grinding so if you don't know how I'm
living my life how am I gonna respect
you so you have to be a hard worker
period died you got work your [ __ ]
ass off that's where I get it respect
for you mmm so if you're working hard
every day now you have an opinion in my
eyes mmm but here's a guy who talks [ __ ]
and you live this [ __ ] life of
talking [ __ ] come on dude hmm I
understand one thing you're just talking
[ __ ] but if I see you every [ __ ] day
of your life trying to be better every
day going through all the wickets to be
better you got my attention
mmm I respect you now so respect is the
first thing yeah great emotions you
talked about your mind is emotion and
how you feel do you see that as the same
thing or different and have you tried to
control how you feel how you react to
people anger jealousy hate you know
whatever and trying some kind of mastery
of that do you see that as different to
the mind jealousy a hundred percent you
have to if you're jealous about anything
that is a horrible thing anger I've done
really well with controlling it nowadays
back in the day when you're insecure so
all this stuff comes from conquering
yourself and once you feel good about
yourself all the anger not all of it we human
human
jealousy these things start to really go
away he's like no I'm good
yeah I'm good when you're full you don't
need other people to fill you up because
you're full that's right I think a lot
of people they like need people's
respect they need people's opinions they
need people's attention they need
people's love because they're empty
that's right and they're trying to fill
themselves up through other people
there's no one can live to your standard
so you're always gonna feel empty that's
how it used to be mmm
so we created me lying it creamy being a
dishonest person whatever I could do to
get it to get whatever it was I'm a back
to you Crescent buddy motion I'm a very
emotional person so I'm very passionate
because it took a lot for me to be Who I
am today hmm
so I'm very emotional yeah but it's just
the passion of me about the sacrifice I
put into being who when today mmm so and
sometimes that spills over sometimes you
lose control of it it's not losing
control I allow it to go mmm
so I got this awards for the VFW called
the Americanism award and I'm speaking
in front of like 5,000 veterans and I
get the award and I'm thinking people
and I turned back to my mom I look at
her and for 58 seconds just cried
because I had a chance at that time to
look and see what I've accomplished and
where I came from and I wasn't trying to
hold it by to get myself together to
give my speech but it was a very proud
moment for me to be able to reflect it
say okay man like you know you've not
like I've earned that right to cry or to
be emotional but it felt good that
literally I grinded myself into a fine
powder to get where I'm at today
mmm and it just came out in that way so
yeah emotion is a beautiful thing you
don't want to if if you're emotional
that's bad yeah but if you show emotion
at the right time I think that's a
that's a beautiful thing mmm so it's
still an essence of controlling it yes
yeah because you have to you want to be
in control of your mind you want to be
in control of your mind emotional people
they're rec hmm they control that
emotion controls your everything you do
yeah and what emotional people do is
like for instance I always say this they
can have a beautiful life husband and
wife kids everything everything they
want but it's the one thing that they
don't have that makes them emotional so
that emotion makes them focus on what
they don't have emotion makes them focus
on everything negative everything
pity-party what was me this didn't
happen so your mind loves that it loves
talking to other people how this is all
[ __ ] up maybe you know think about it
people love to [ __ ] and complain about
everything so when you're sitting there
you may spend weeks months years
bitching about the same thing so what
have you done
nothing hmm there's no solution in that
yeah but most of us live there all this
other guy got to pay raise every guy got
this and I got that and we live in this
emotional state of what was me mmm
nothing gets accomplished mm-hmm nothing
gets accomplished yeah so um penultimate
question then we do a few quickfire if
that's all right so it just got a few
minutes left just in advance a thank you mm-hmm
mm-hmm
business so I business one of my big
passions on our business and obviously
you've commercialized very well doing a
lot of podcasts your book and of course
your speaking so I don't want us off go
into a question per se right other than
can you just talk about your business
interests how have you managed to sort
of pivot your mind from what everyone
knows you for to having a business mind
and picking the right gigs speaking gigs
and what's your speaking fee and going
on promoting your book and all that kind
of because that must be a different
world for you right people aren't going
to like to hear I got to say I don't
care or to hear it I'm not about money
not about money at all it comes you have
to first be authentic what is your
[ __ ] brand there's a bunch of people
who are doing business right now who
don't know what the [ __ ] brand is
they're trying to figure it out they're
trying to piggyback off someone else let
me take this and steal this
everything I say another thing I do is
authentic to me mm-hmm
and I'm not out here trying to make
money off of you I'm out here trying to
help you when you truly want to help
somebody out that's when you have a
business your business is when you truly
are looking to help have a good product
the product right now is myself like
basically are you living what you talk
are you being who you are
so they're for me so yeah David Goggins
I may not like him every [ __ ] day I
know this guy every day I wake up I know
he's out there doing something I know
he's getting out so I know when he talks
he's speaking truth whether it be
whatever so what I've done with my
business is I made it very true to who I
am as a person I'm not someone else I'm
not trying to fake something and I'm not
looking for your [ __ ] money I'm here
to help you and when people see that
you're here to help you that's when you
can form a business but people can see
right through [ __ ] mmm they can see
right through [ __ ] so once they see
the [ __ ] your business is done mmm
you know authentic anymore yeah it's a
piece of [ __ ] mmm so people see true so
sometimes in your business you may not
make a dime for a while you have to gain
trust of people you have to have a good
product it has to be about the people
for the people and not about you there
can't be any underlining things with
very few people can do that nowadays
people a lot of people nowadays are
slugs they're cockroaches - bottom
feeders they just are they want that
quick dollar it's about me it's about me
about me about me if that's your [ __ ]
mindset your business is done some
people make it but they don't last very
long they don't last long so for me I
come from hell
I had to persevere through a lot I got
judged growing up so all I want to truly
do for people is I'm for the [ __ ]
underdog mmm I'm truly I want to see you
[ __ ] crush every [ __ ] on the
planet Earth anybody that said you can't
you can't you can't no but you you might
be your biggest bully you might be tell
you said you can that's my business
hmm whether it makes money or not
give a [ __ ] mmm that's what it's all
about man I want to see you at the end
of day say look my head Goggins I'm not
walking through the airport hey man you
[ __ ] saved my life now I tell you
about it go [ __ ] themselves man because
I changed my whole life around that's
the business if you can do that you're
rich as [ __ ] mmm that'd be a perfect way
to finish the podcast by the way I got a
couple more questions thank you [Music]
[Music]
these are quickfires mean you take as
long as you like but we sort of do them
you know nice and quick
so best advice you ever receive do you
remember what it was best advice I
received was it wasn't really advice my
grandfather when I was growing up I was
being bullied all kind of [ __ ] my
grandfather looked at me and he said you
know what man you're not going about to
[ __ ] because of how you hang your head
so I said hmm
and as true and as real as it was it
hurt and a lot of us what we do is we
hide from the truth we don't want to
tell people the truth we see people
every day loved ones friends family
members we see them walking around
everybody's seen them and they're not
amounting to [ __ ] the [ __ ] gaining
weight they're not going to school but
we live in a kinder gentler world so we
don't say [ __ ] to them we just watch
them fail because why we don't know what
to say or how to say it or we may lose
them as friends or they may not love us
anymore you're watching someone fail the
best thing you may ever do for someone
is to hey guess what brother you're a
piece of [ __ ] right now you may not say
just that way but that's what you may
want to say to somebody look man I love
you to death brother but your life sucks
you're not you you are so much better
than this man you're so much better I'm
watching you fail and I can't do it so
the best advice I ever got was a
negative comment from my grandfather
said hey you make him out to [ __ ] yeah
and he didn't mean it in like a mean way
he meant to is honestly you're allowing
this world to kick your [ __ ] ass and
it's going to if we keep on letting it
do it and it stuck with me it stuck with
me for a long time
what's the worst advice you ever
received which by the way is a terrible
question unknown no nobody comes out
with good answer it's a [ __ ] great question
question
the worst advice I ever received was
from an agent and he said if you
published your self publish your book
you were so 5000 copies if you do this
on your own you won't it no one will buy
this book I saw the million [ __ ]
copies in seven months so if I were took
his advice we all know how that would
have ended up a lot of people would have
been happy now I've been upset so some
advice that you get the bad advice that
you get from people a lot of times it's
the best advice for them yeah most
people give you advice that works for them
them
especially in business so make sure it
once against by having that good solid
core of people around you that truly
care about what is best for you not
what's best for them yeah let's talk
about the book for a minute then because
it did really well why did it do so well
you know did you promote it a lot to
jump on a lot of podcasts and share it
was it just a message did it go viral
why do you think it did so well it did
well because I was known as this
superhuman guy and I went on these
podcasts and I was vulnerable I told the
truth and the truth is a start line of
your life I went on and told the truth
about my life about look ma'am I'm sorry
to let you guys down there but I'm not
who you think I am all these
accomplishments yes but this is where I
come from and when you're able to be
vulnerable and be a tough guy at the
same time it almost people are looking
for permission nowadays and not saying
that I'm the permission holder but like
for a guy like me to come out after all
the tough stuff I've done I'm known as
the world's toughest man yeah that's
just a title someone gave me but when
you're known as that you do all these
tough things you like hey man but check
it out dude you open the door for people
in my life not only was I not the
smartest kid learn disabilities abuse
father my stepfather Masumi stepfather I
got murdered stuttering obese the list
goes on and on and on I broke down color barriers so one time when I went to do
barriers so one time when I went to do my book I actually went to book auction
my book I actually went to book auction years ago they looked at me it was like
years ago they looked at me it was like hey man
hey man there's only like 15 percent of
there's only like 15 percent of America's black okay [ __ ] you say they
America's black okay [ __ ] you say they thought to only black people who buy my
thought to only black people who buy my book I have like out of the million
book I have like out of the million people that my book is most of our white
people that my book is most of our white and the thing I say that for is this
and the thing I say that for is this story I'm not the hero in the story you
story I'm not the hero in the story you are I'm basically talking to you to make
are I'm basically talking to you to make you think about your life and I'm being
you think about your life and I'm being vulnerable to make you think about when
vulnerable to make you think about when you listen to a podcast or you listen to
you listen to a podcast or you listen to audio book or you read a book you by
audio book or you read a book you by yourself most of us can't be vulnerable
yourself most of us can't be vulnerable in a room of people but we're very
in a room of people but we're very vulnerable alone so I'm able to talk to
vulnerable alone so I'm able to talk to you as one person even though a million
you as one person even though a million people are reading the book it's made
people are reading the book it's made for each individual because that story I
for each individual because that story I tell is touching someone's like to say
tell is touching someone's like to say oh man yeah I experienced that [ __ ]
oh man yeah I experienced that [ __ ] behind you for coming I never even
behind you for coming I never even talked about that [ __ ] yeah so I broke
talked about that [ __ ] yeah so I broke down my barriers and that's why I did it
down my barriers and that's why I did it on podcast and I did it and I'm giving
on podcast and I did it and I'm giving you tools tools to help you get through
you tools tools to help you get through some of this [ __ ] not like five-step
some of this [ __ ] not like five-step [ __ ] no I went to the dungeon and I
[ __ ] no I went to the dungeon and I was the guinea pig and I figured the
was the guinea pig and I figured the [ __ ] out and I'm writing about it I
[ __ ] out and I'm writing about it I didn't sit back in a nice comfortable
didn't sit back in a nice comfortable room and say huh this would be a good
room and say huh this would be a good [ __ ] book let me say okay the five
[ __ ] book let me say okay the five steps are this and they write a book
steps are this and they write a book about it no I was the person I did the
about it no I was the person I did the research you know I wasn't a theorist I
research you know I wasn't a theorist I was the practitioner yeah and people see
was the practitioner yeah and people see that hmm okay thank you is that one
that hmm okay thank you is that one thing maybe in the world do you think is
thing maybe in the world do you think is really wrong that you'd like to change
really wrong that you'd like to change yes
yes what's really wrong is a softness of
what's really wrong is a softness of this world everybody's not a winner
there is failure there's tons of defeat we have to get
there's tons of defeat we have to get that back that's that that's growth that
that back that's that that's growth that that is growth we have to everything
that is growth we have to everything everybody has I'm glad about as a voice
everybody has I'm glad about as a voice there has to be structure in the world
there has to be structure in the world again
again there has to be accountability everybody
there has to be accountability everybody is not right mmm everybody's not right
is not right mmm everybody's not right kids are kids you know and and it kind
kids are kids you know and and it kind of stems from there people have to get a
of stems from there people have to get a little bit of toughness back a lot of
little bit of toughness back a lot of toughness back because the backbone of
toughness back because the backbone of of this world is built off of toughness
of this world is built off of toughness not like I got a go off there and do
not like I got a go off there and do push-ups and pull-ups and [ __ ] like that
push-ups and pull-ups and [ __ ] like that it's not about Todd toughness is
it's not about Todd toughness is accountability you're not always right
accountability you're not always right there's so many things I can say about
there's so many things I can say about this the world has gotten very very soft
this the world has gotten very very soft any particular areas and all of us all
any particular areas and all of us all of us it's easy nowadays we have we're
of us it's easy nowadays we have we're so technically technology so fast you
so technically technology so fast you know no one's even going to the library
know no one's even going to the library why Google the [ __ ] mmm everything is
why Google the [ __ ] mmm everything is easy
easy no one's ever code anymore no one's ever
no one's ever code anymore no one's ever hot anymore everything is exactly the
hot anymore everything is exactly the way we want it everything is exactly we
way we want it everything is exactly we want when we want it we are in and
want when we want it we are in and that's how the world is
that's how the world is everything is at our fingertips and that
everything is at our fingertips and that causes you not to use the most powerful
causes you not to use the most powerful weapon in the world which is your mind
weapon in the world which is your mind everything is easy so why so when things
everything is easy so why so when things get hard how the hell can you rely on
get hard how the hell can you rely on your brain when you don't know how to
your brain when you don't know how to B's everything's so easy yeah so we're
B's everything's so easy yeah so we're not utilizing enough mm-hmm because
not utilizing enough mm-hmm because everything is just there yeah so that so
everything is just there yeah so that so our brains and data in my mind a lot you
our brains and data in my mind a lot you get comfortable with things and like you
get comfortable with things and like you said you know it's like you have three
said you know it's like you have three degrees too cold and you it's true yeah
degrees too cold and you it's true yeah you feel wet and wimpy is true yeah I
you feel wet and wimpy is true yeah I mean like it's print when I say
mean like it's print when I say everybody's running so yeah it's just
everybody's running so yeah it's just it's just these small these horses say
it's just these small these horses say you know what I think creeps up on you
you know what I think creeps up on you you don't really know it's happening it
you don't really know it's happening it does versus say no I'm a man yeah a lot
does versus say no I'm a man yeah a lot of people like for instance I see men
of people like for instance I see men and women now are so much all the same I
and women now are so much all the same I see women carrying bags I see women open
see women carrying bags I see women open their
their doors like this hole words kind of mist
doors like this hole words kind of mist into one big one big person all these
into one big one big person all these customs and courtesies all these things
customs and courtesies all these things are just gone like you know the second
are just gone like you know the second the that bell rings when the daggone
the that bell rings when the daggone airplane parks everybody's ass up versus
airplane parks everybody's ass up versus a man has seen a woman that you sent by
a man has seen a woman that you sent by saying ma'am is this your back it's all
saying ma'am is this your back it's all these small things there's all these
these small things there's all these small sub-discipline always rushing
small sub-discipline always rushing we're rushing everywhere we're rushing
we're rushing everywhere we're rushing people aren't holding doors or it's all
people aren't holding doors or it's all these small things
these small things these small disciplines why do you make
these small disciplines why do you make your bed in the morning time when I was
your bed in the morning time when I was in the military never forgot I was like
in the military never forgot I was like a lot of [ __ ] we folded our shirt up
a lot of [ __ ] we folded our shirt up this way why why am I making these
this way why why am I making these Hospital corners 45 degrees in them
Hospital corners 45 degrees in them forward in my bed back six inches the
forward in my bed back six inches the size of a dollar why am I doing this all
size of a dollar why am I doing this all these small things that we do in life
these small things that we do in life are building your mind up for discipline
are building your mind up for discipline and all those disciplines are gone so
and all those disciplines are gone so that's the one thing that we're
that's the one thing that we're definitely missing it's self discipline
definitely missing it's self discipline and do you think your story and the
and do you think your story and the product of you and your book support
product of you and your book support caution message do you think that is
caution message do you think that is maybe pushing back a bit on that it's
maybe pushing back a bit on that it's pushing back a ton on it and because
pushing back a ton on it and because everything about it is accountability
everything about it is accountability everything about it is self-discipline
everything about it is self-discipline everything about it is no one's gonna
everything about it is no one's gonna save you no one's gonna come out of the
save you no one's gonna come out of the woods and say hey I got your back man I
woods and say hey I got your back man I want to take you from all this [ __ ]
want to take you from all this [ __ ] some people get that but very few of us
some people get that but very few of us do so the only person coming to save you
do so the only person coming to save you is yourself and that's what the books
is yourself and that's what the books about man don't look around the corner
about man don't look around the corner hoping I was selling this couch and hope
hoping I was selling this couch and hope for a [ __ ] miracle yeah it might come
for a [ __ ] miracle yeah it might come to that 1% but ain't coming to most of
to that 1% but ain't coming to most of us
us mm-hmm so you better start getting to
mm-hmm so you better start getting to work yeah before we went I'm live if you
work yeah before we went I'm live if you like you were talking about how your
like you were talking about how your book the audio versions a novel unique
book the audio versions a novel unique concept right I'd like you to tell
concept right I'd like you to tell everyone you know where your book is and
everyone you know where your book is and how they can get it but can you talk
how they can get it but can you talk about the concept because it was the
about the concept because it was the first book I listened to where I thought
first book I listened to where I thought this is kind of like radio kind of like
this is kind of like radio kind of like a podcast kind of like an interview and
a podcast kind of like an interview and kind of like a book all rolled in I
kind of like a book all rolled in I think that's what you were going for
think that's what you were going for yeah yeah so basically that's one of the
yeah yeah so basically that's one of the big reasons why this off publish because
big reasons why this off publish because I was able to put my Goggins twist on
I was able to put my Goggins twist on everything I did
everything I did so with the audiobook is the first of
so with the audiobook is the first of its kind and almost everybody
its kind and almost everybody besides my support staff said don't do
besides my support staff said don't do it this way you need to be the one that
it this way you need to be the one that reads this and that's it no one's ever
reads this and that's it no one's ever done it this way how we could do it this
done it this way how we could do it this way don't do it this way
way don't do it this way so basically in the audio book there's a
so basically in the audio book there's a bunch of me I have I have my a guy named
bunch of me I have I have my a guy named Adam who's reading it and through the
Adam who's reading it and through the book
book I'm chiming in and I'm going even deeper
I'm chiming in and I'm going even deeper diving in deeper with these different
diving in deeper with these different stories and we're talking off the cuff
stories and we're talking off the cuff and this mean him are talking so the
and this mean him are talking so the whole book is read but through different
whole book is read but through different chapters and then at the end of each
chapters and then at the end of each chapter so you hear me throughout the
chapter so you hear me throughout the whole book giving more content going
whole book giving more content going deeper giving the stories that aren't
deeper giving the stories that aren't aren't in the book and it's just my own
aren't in the book and it's just my own little flavor and there's tons of
little flavor and there's tons of stories that are in the audio book that
stories that are in the audio book that aren't in the real book yeah and I take
aren't in the real book yeah and I take pride in because basically no one's ever
pride in because basically no one's ever done it and right now our book is
done it and right now our book is sitting at I think number four so it's
sitting at I think number four so it's been at number four on the Amazon most
been at number four on the Amazon most sold since December Wow
sold since December Wow and we sold over a million copies and
and we sold over a million copies and I'm self-published so most of it comes
I'm self-published so most of it comes from the audio book we sold over 600 and
from the audio book we sold over 600 and I think 50,000 copies around there yeah
I think 50,000 copies around there yeah of the audio book because of the do you
of the audio book because of the do you think because of the concept because the
think because of the concept because the concept because you know basically it's
concept because you know basically it's so unique and it really draws you in
so unique and it really draws you in yeah because I have someone else reading
yeah because I have someone else reading it you're not in it but I want it
it you're not in it but I want it supposed to read it because you're the
supposed to read it because you're the hero yeah
hero yeah this isn't I'm not the hero this book it
this isn't I'm not the hero this book it may be about me but I'm really talking
may be about me but I'm really talking to you I want you to be thinking about
to you I want you to be thinking about your personal life and that's how we do
your personal life and that's how we do we draw the listener in to the story
we draw the listener in to the story yeah it make you say oh [ __ ] man like
yeah it make you say oh [ __ ] man like okay I'm in it now I'm living this story
okay I'm in it now I'm living this story now with this guy so but the fact that
now with this guy so but the fact that you're in it I think is also really
you're in it I think is also really important yes because people but it's
important yes because people but it's hard to get across how you're like and
hard to get across how you're like and your intensity and your passion with a
your intensity and your passion with a voice-over artist you know somewhere now
voice-over artist you know somewhere now here and hearing you write like some of
here and hearing you write like some of the things you've said on this interview
the things you've said on this interview of like oh that'd be a great time to
of like oh that'd be a great time to finish the podcast but I want to get the
finish the podcast but I want to get the questions in right but it's the way you
questions in right but it's the way you said it not just what you said right
said it not just what you said right yeah I have a different delivery which
yeah I have a different delivery which is why I had to find everything about me
is why I had to find everything about me is very unique and that's what I want
is very unique and that's what I want people to realize we're all unique and
people to realize we're all unique and all right now you can't be muffled you
all right now you can't be muffled you can't be muffled by these different
can't be muffled by these different voices in your head or these different
voices in your head or these different people who doubt you whatever so it took
people who doubt you whatever so it took me a long time to find my voice
me a long time to find my voice therefore I know what you're saying
therefore I know what you're saying that's why I had to be on the audio book
that's why I had to be on the audio book and how I write and how I speak is very
and how I write and how I speak is very different so but it's very primitive I
different so but it's very primitive I don't overthink anything yeah all of my
don't overthink anything yeah all of my takeaways in the book and there's tons
takeaways in the book and there's tons of them in the book they're all very
of them in the book they're all very basic takeaways and the things that you
basic takeaways and the things that you can apply immediately to your life and
can apply immediately to your life and I'm not trying to sell you on I'll give
I'm not trying to sell you on I'll give a ship you bite or not but they're very
a ship you bite or not but they're very quick and that's how my mind works I'm
quick and that's how my mind works I'm simple stupid yeah keep a simple stupid
simple stupid yeah keep a simple stupid man and that's all life things we
man and that's all life things we overthink things and be in net next
overthink things and be in net next thing you know this very simple thing
thing you know this very simple thing screw light bulb in becomes very hard
screw light bulb in becomes very hard yeah just screw the [ __ ] in man no
yeah just screw the [ __ ] in man no just screw the [ __ ] in that's it
just screw the [ __ ] in that's it you're done yeah and that's how my life
you're done yeah and that's how my life is now you screw the [ __ ] light bulb
is now you screw the [ __ ] light bulb amen let's go yeah great and this
amen let's go yeah great and this podcast is really about disruptors
podcast is really about disruptors disruptive people and what does that
disruptive people and what does that word disruptive me to you I mean the
word disruptive me to you I mean the first thing that comes to mind is just
first thing that comes to mind is just what you said disruptive people for the
what you said disruptive people for the majority of my life people disrupted my
majority of my life people disrupted my life but I allowed them to but what
life but I allowed them to but what happens is over a pretty time you become
happens is over a pretty time you become the disturbance in your life because you
the disturbance in your life because you allow all these disturbances to get in
allow all these disturbances to get in your head therefore you have all this
your head therefore you have all this [ __ ] going on but you become your
[ __ ] going on but you become your biggest bully yeah and once that happens
biggest bully yeah and once that happens it's over once it happens it's over
it's over once it happens it's over because all you have in your mind on
because all you have in your mind on literally on a loop is negative
literally on a loop is negative self-talk yeah and once that negative
self-talk yeah and once that negative self-talk is on a loop it's hard to get
self-talk is on a loop it's hard to get out of him someone once said to me the
out of him someone once said to me the the best thing the best way to disrupt
the best thing the best way to disrupt is to disrupt yourself before someone
is to disrupt yourself before someone else does competitions friends whatever
else does competitions friends whatever you have a thought on that about you
you have a thought on that about you taking control of challenging yourself
taking control of challenging yourself so someone else doesn't own your life
so someone else doesn't own your life that's the whole thing I'll talk about
that's the whole thing I'll talk about winning the battle in the morning so
winning the battle in the morning so every morning I wake up I believe in
every morning I wake up I believe in winning the battle against yourself
winning the battle against yourself people say why do you say that because
people say why do you say that because there's a lot of things you can control
there's a lot of things you can control when you wake up it's about making your
when you wake up it's about making your bed
bed make your bed make sure your house is
make your bed make sure your house is clean make sure you get your breakfast
clean make sure you get your breakfast make sure you shower a shave whatever
make sure you shower a shave whatever you're doing control that don't hit the
you're doing control that don't hit the snooze button all these things are very
snooze button all these things are very important that's been told a lot of
important that's been told a lot of times why don't you hit this news button
times why don't you hit this news button cuz you wake up already failing you're
cuz you wake up already failing you're already behind the power curve so what
already behind the power curve so what happens we get this news button you may
happens we get this news button you may not make your bed you may not do your
not make your bed you may not do your hair the way you want it you may not
hair the way you want it you may not pick the right clothes out in the
pick the right clothes out in the morning time and I go back to this real
morning time and I go back to this real quick remember how you had a job
quick remember how you had a job interview for a job we've had several of
interview for a job we've had several of them in our lives what you do the night
them in our lives what you do the night before that job weeks before the job
before that job weeks before the job interview we knew you had it you'd be
interview we knew you had it you'd be paired you're you know you had a bowl
paired you're you know you had a bowl out for your oatmeal your cereal we'd
out for your oatmeal your cereal we'd ever had in the morning time your coffee
ever had in the morning time your coffee cup was out your clothes were laid out
cup was out your clothes were laid out you studied you rehearsed you were ready
you studied you rehearsed you were ready you brought your best self you're going
you brought your best self you're going to ward your so because you wanted that
to ward your so because you wanted that interviewer to see your best self you
interviewer to see your best self you won you got the job after a few months
won you got the job after a few months in that job you look around hmm I got
in that job you look around hmm I got the job start to back off the clothes
the job start to back off the clothes aren't out you're not ready hitting the
aren't out you're not ready hitting the snooze button you don't get up on time
snooze button you don't get up on time anymore
anymore you realize that you can still have this
you realize that you can still have this job and not be your best self the
job and not be your best self the interview you is gone your job is gone
interview you is gone your job is gone you have your job but the interview is
you have your job but the interview is gone
gone so we're in the balance of more time is
so we're in the balance of more time is just that it's that you wake up in the
just that it's that you wake up in the morning time when you own all this stuff
morning time when you own all this stuff because once you leave your house the
because once you leave your house the world then gets at you
world then gets at you and that's why I believe in them not not
and that's why I believe in them not not getting up in the morning time checking
getting up in the morning time checking your phone immediately everybody does
your phone immediately everybody does that they get up the first thing to do
that they get up the first thing to do grab their phone look at the phone maybe
grab their phone look at the phone maybe bad news on there so how's your day
bad news on there so how's your day start off I don't go to the gym I don't
start off I don't go to the gym I don't make my bed I know you're caught up now
make my bed I know you're caught up now on that phone that's how your day starts
on that phone that's how your day starts you lost control so once you win that
you lost control so once you win that once you win that battle in the morning
once you win that battle in the morning time then once you go out now you've won
time then once you go out now you've won you go outside your house
you go outside your house you may lose your job you may have a bad
you may lose your job you may have a bad hit but you won something
hit but you won something so so you're going into battle having
so so you're going into battle having already won something having already won
already won something having already won so then if you this news button you go
so then if you this news button you go out you're just defeated already you're
out you're just defeated already you're behind the power curve now you've won
behind the power curve now you've won something you feel better about yourself
something you feel better about yourself so now you're able to take these hits
so now you're able to take these hits along the way yeah so that's the mindset
along the way yeah so that's the mindset that I think it's important to bring
that I think it's important to bring with you every day you go everywhere you
with you every day you go everywhere you go in life when what you can mmm and
go in life when what you can mmm and that is a good way to end the podcast
that is a good way to end the podcast just to finish where can people follow
just to finish where can people follow you where would you like to send people
you where would you like to send people so I'm on Instagram I'm on facebook I'm
so I'm on Instagram I'm on facebook I'm on Twitter it's just at David Goggins
on Twitter it's just at David Goggins yeah the book I saw published obviously
yeah the book I saw published obviously can't have me can't hurt me it's a book
can't have me can't hurt me it's a book title and it's on Amazon it's on audible
title and it's on Amazon it's on audible yeah those aren't you spots right
yeah those aren't you spots right it was on audible oh yeah iTunes yeah
it was on audible oh yeah iTunes yeah but for the most part you know but but
but for the most part you know but but the audiobook is definitely the one I
the audiobook is definitely the one I would definitely recommend yeah David be
would definitely recommend yeah David be a time thanks very much very grateful I
a time thanks very much very grateful I appreciate it thank you and kid thank
appreciate it thank you and kid thank you
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