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This analysis explores Jacques Derrida's engagement with Martin Heidegger's reading of Hölderlin, focusing on Derrida's critique of traditional methodologies and the complex, often doubled, relationship between their interpretations. The core theme is how Derrida deconstructs Heidegger's reading by highlighting its inherent assumptions and the problematic nature of "reading" itself, particularly when engaging with texts that interrogate the very concept of inscription and meaning.
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should read it's bound to have a lasting
impact on the way you think about the
relation between the construction and
scholars have long argued that this is a
complicated relation indeed finders by
far thank those most privileged
interlocutor throughout the constructed
leading of the history of Western
philosophy a pride of place that is
marked by an Invisalign swell captured
in French by the phrase to alter how
they get right up against right even if
they die himself never thought of this
against in the mood of criticism so that
he can say English / - that he never
simply criticizes Heidegger during a
critique Jame Heidegger in nevertheless
seems quite plausible to argue that the
name Heidegger tends to signal a place
of contention and dispute in the EDA a
sign of struggle
where a confrontation I know I'll sign a
visit soon women say between data and
Heidegger each time ensues without any
clear victory in the end for the down to
read Heidegger is thus to have it out 6
BP avec the philosopher he was
characterized perhaps only half-joking
as quote the philosophers he'll know
we're more didn't get / 3 vs complex and
tumultuous relationship becomes so
explicit data is in fact so close to my
that taught me English / 3 that at
times it becomes difficult if not
impossible to sort out the authorial
voices in the text so that one no longer
knows in whose name are given passage
speaks many times rubbish machine he
suddenly looks as though they now were
merely snugly Heidegger
particularly when describing how idea is
himself doubling his own description of
caucus poetry today I would like to call
attention to this irreducible and
uncanny element of doubling in
Bangladesh 3 a motif that permits the
whole of investing in in general and his
being of Heidegger in particular my
suggestion will be that they this
repetition of Heidegger
which in and of itself is already a
certain doubling of Heidegger's behold
in no way convinced they needed to a
position of passive commentary or ad
nauseam exegesis a point that he now
will make explicit in his reading of
Heidegger English verse 3 or the very
concept of reading is itself problem
times especially next day does being of
hiding are any ways to help us think
about what it means to read and the
strong sense of that word a practice
perhaps forgotten in many philosophical
circles today what one that he does
Queens Ali Mithun Lizzy that workman
they does quasi methodology in English
lush lush lush tree has only recently
been discovered a quote very brief
outline six pages in fact often exists
at the very ending of the flesh to where
they need us summarizes collage three
principal concern into five foci one of
which deals more specifically with the
manner in which Heidegger reads cockle
in his essay in on the way the language
title language in the poem a placement
of your carcass on immediately before
his discussion of the five foci data
begins to problematize the called
concept of reading which unless
thoroughly reformulated seems to him
inadequate to describe what Heidegger is
doing to tackle or what he himself is
doing to Heidegger for that matter data
points out that one of the five foci
he's about to list deals explicitly with
this concept of reading which suggests
that this concept is itself implicated
in and binding a shlush problematic
engage / 3 the very beginning of which
confirms precisely at this point well
note that all I try to relate modestly
several readings of cash flow of cash /
to one another leaving a dotted line of
so many other possible it's inner areas
but the word reading also lets itself be
affected by this resituated of you /
we cannot then rely on any easy
assurance when he comes to this world
then he that goes on to reflect on how
this simple usage of the word reading of
how his simple usage of the word reading
already quote implicitly banks on
conventions and complicities which in
this context it would be imprudent to
rely on given the nagesh logical
American Heidegger just might affect
they were reading by precisely this
mentally the metaphysical foundations of
the said conventional theory of reading
that would then be enamored inadequate
visiting the insights of heidegger's
thinking of cash life in other words
really meets to take into account how
Heidegger slips remarks on you slash end
up being if only indirectly significant
for the concept of reading itself which
would then be determined from within
this problematic rather than
artificially imposed on it from the
outside the question would then be how
exactly does the cash lasha problematic
in Heidegger relate to read and just how
exactly might have denounced the
metaphysical unfounded prejudices of a
conventional theory agree
these questions are left unanswered by
Vedas outline of cash three at the end
of you / - even though the outlines
third focal point does approach the
methodological or quote beyond
methodological question of reading
without however making explicit what the
internal relations between reading
English clashes might be the newly
discovered Gaspar Sri begins by at least
trying to sketch an answer to this
question which will deal not just with
how Heidegger reads Farkle but also with
how Danny got himself retired and with
how we two are in turn trying to read
data stream of Heidegger's reading
before turning to get fleshly itself
let us well just a little longer on the
aforementioned focal point quote where
several questions of method intersect is
that he dies trying without thanking my
easily on the very methodologies and
then Heidegger warns us against to
understand how many giri's
nevertheless so here's their yeah what
is how you're doing
how does he operate in the loan what
paths following which are none yet or
already no longer methods what is highly
respect on this fact what is his rhythm
in this text that explicitly pronounces
itself on the essence of hood mas and
also what is this manner his hand
vehicle bridle these questions beyond
method committed are also questions
about the relation that this Heidegger
text in the text I am writing intern
entertains with what is called
hermeneutics interpretation X oriented
Jesus literary criticism rhetoric or
poetics but also with all the bodies of
knowledge of the human or social
sciences history psychoanalysis
sociology volatile eg etc thank you guys
in literally referring to the three-page
introduction to hiding his language in
the poem where Heidegger more explicitly
speaks about what he's doing to off
right at the start of his essay how do
you insist that his placement is an
autumn of tacos poem who have already
gone a long way toward accomplishing
what is set out to do if it modestly
contents itself with two preliminary
steps towards indicating and paying heed
to the place he bought once every
individual Krakow formspring
and towards which it flows and points
back in a back and forth manner that
corresponds to the essence of what a
statical meta physical representation of
thinking only superficially things
breathing to be it is I saying how do
you concedes that this way of proceeding
may well appear one-sided to the
disciplines we just saw that he done
mentioned and whose method you know it
resembles the path they along which
arguments to think a Hodos or a bell or
ear vaq that in fact seems to lead
nowhere as far as the human in social
sciences concern let us begin
by reading Heidegger's three-page
introductions panicked practically
line-by-line explicitly impressed by the
rigor of hydras gesture which will
preemptively retaliate against the
objections of the metaphysical
methodology of the human and social
sciences by means of a quote clause of
modesty which turns out to be an
authoritative very dicta as they'd
argues here's the passage like they
sneak me off where Heidegger quote this
misses the human and social sciences at
the threshold of the situation
naming psychoanalysis something he
rarely does alongside history sociology
and so here's the passage though he does
thinking of from I guess I say the
placement speaks of your taco only in
such a way that it pays heed to the
place of his phone such a way of
proceeding remains blatantly one-sided
if not wayward be avec for the age that
has a history of graphical biographical
psychoanalytic and sociological
fascination would make an expression the
placement base heat to the place if we
look carefully of the first 20 pages of
collage 3 we can see how that he dies
doing all he can to give Heidegger his
due by noticing how traditional
methodology banks naively on the very
problematic presuppositions having a
thought goes a long way to deconstruct
that either highlights how Heidegger
remains immune to the ammunition of
traditional criticism that cannot begin
to understand the questions fight occurs
asking let alone Posen I think the
suggestion seems to be that if we are to
have access to the presuppositions which
may problematically quote
uphold such a situation of tacos at
least by Heidegger we had better first
make sure not to give in to the very
presuppositions Heidegger warns us
against time and again especially those
having to do with quote the metaphysical
project of method as they he that
explains we are still in the
introduction even before the beginning
of the first part at the threshold that
precautions multiplied others would call
them methodological
in fact they warned us against method
and methodologies not in the name of
empiricism but why the country in the
name of a rigorous path towards the
place this path which is like yet and
methodical procedure will no doubt seem
arbitrary capricious
and committed to improvisation as long
as it as long as we do not situate as
Heidegger so often does elsewhere
metaphysics the metaphysical project of
method itself the hito goes on to notice
how heidegger's quote free or a
methodological precautions quite
powerfully wrench his discourse from the
domain of quote all the discourses and
the whole body of knowledge they make
use of method as Heidegger move
rigorously called forbid himself and I
was in turn when reading him from
metaphysically relying on the fastness
of tradition methodology which is then
unable to go beyond or behind its own
problematic foundations as Heidegger's
want to do it is precisely this pre or a
methodological prohibition that should
according to data give us pause when
reading Heidegger and hastening to
criticizing by tacitly or unwittingly
drawing from the very resources
Heidegger's thought so thoroughly
problematizes and quote so often situates
situates
as the innocence this is why the Haddad
will specify in visual street that given
how having a thorough dismantling of the
prejudices and assumptions of
traditional methodology will void all
these resources and resources in advance
it is as though we were from the outset
destitute of the entire strategic
apparatus of a classical theory of
reading being unable to mobilize its
methods and use its ammunition against
Heidegger who will have always remained
in new to accusations that do no more
than straighten and confirm his own
position okay here we are them
incredibly disarmed and without records
move well I don't ganden unique is so
cool right study done so as to surrender
to Heidegger in a certain way will
to be vulnerable to Heidegger which
paradoxically perhaps helps the Adhan
not to fall prey to a certain quote
imperturbable irony the most discreet
and surest irony that will always be on
higher side and quote as long as we keep
using conceptual weapons and deploying
tactics that cannot but declare victory
to Heidegger from the start that he that
US begins his reading it has nobody he
has by now become clear we do not yet
know what this word means of Heidegger
English less read by trying to give an
account of the peculiar methodological
impasse precisely what is being publicized
publicized
in data as introductory remarks
introduction as well that we more
cautiously could call quasi methodology
methodological or free or a
methodological as they dine self does
when describing the rigors precautions
Heidegger and he himself mistake and the
opening of their respected damash the
main thrust of cache lush trees opening
pages seems to lie in noticing just how
difficult if not impossible it is to
uncover the potentially problematic
foundations on which high leaders
reading of tako rests a possibility that
can only be opened up so it seems via a
problematization of the concept of
reading itself which begins in the Adhan
and in heidegger's well by means of a
powerful and almost paralyzing
bracketing of all the assurances that
traditional methodology has to offer us
this is why they that starts his reading
of Heidegger by first quote taking into
account how high diggers
self-presentation of how he reads and of
how he in turn needs to be read
according to Linda falls outside so how
you talk how yourself presentation falls
outside the domain of the aforementioned
classical methodological questions of
reading which subsequently leads saying
that to give two examples of quote one
these classical two examples of quote
what the classical forms of these
questions presuppose neglect or the stimulant
stimulant
in books let me turn to these examples
that will begin to make clear how
exactly reading in the cache lash is
problematic in Heidegger go hand in hand
or as that says how exactly reading
quote lets itself be affected by this resituated
resituated
of wishlist party the total typology of
cash list for the sake of time and
perhaps for its psychoanalytic reasons I
will not be saying much about the first
example that gives and that touches on
heidegger's sort or penetrating spear
point which is Lila Canyon week a week
the mountain cannot resist interpreting
as the phallus a transcendental
signifier which would support every
signifying chain as the place you of the
signifier as Lacan says so this is the
pirate for my paper that I had to cut or
perhaps castrated suffice it to point to
the general thrust of the haters first
example of what the traditional
methodology of the human social sciences psychoanalysis
psychoanalysis
included or presupposes neglects or the
simulates when reading writing which I
think to be this traditional methodology
takes for granted the textual T of the
very testy claims 3 never pausing over
quote that singular place that a textual
locality is that is to say never
thinking through what constitutes this
textual locality in the first place a
place that Heidegger quote proposes from
the outset to rethink in the
aforementioned kako essay as their word
optimum in that essays subtitle already
points to the odd the place of tacos
poetry that have you guys trying to
situate without you like to do on an in
critically inherited common notion of
what textual place means which
incidentally is precisely the Cartesian
notion of space as quote the geometric
space of the res extends ax or even of
being as for hunting height in general
and quote then none better than
Heidegger precise
so powerfully and repeatedly this mental
Stroud was thinking is naive and
unquestioned topology would this be the
first example of what a classical theory
of reading the methodology of the human
and social sciences presupposes legal
acts or the simulates when living with
hi the Hellespont here seems to be that
heidegger's ironic smirk that quote
imperturbable irony the most discreet
and surest irony and quote is not
perturbed in the slightest when those
making fun of it
they like pain and I artists for example
do not realize that the joke is actually
on them for blindly presumed to know
what the very same Heidegger says they
do not namely the topology on which any
concept of Reason relies weather
implicitly or expected whereas Canada's
first example is a presupposition we
made by human or social scientists when
trying to read Heidegger exhibits an
atom admittedly in direct relation to
the concept of reading itself or even
think of / problematic as such given the
hikers thinking of the slash in the taco
essay implies a topology that seems more
concerned to rethink place in general
rather than textual place in particular
Heidegger never explicitly says I'm
thinking textual place he says I'm
thinking place in general and given that
Heineken refers to quote the topology of
being elsewhere without having to
mention the word get sliced
we're asking lay does first example
exhibits an admittedly indirect relation
to the concept of reading itself or even
bigger shlush problematic as such his
second example is more explicitly to do
with how the concept of reading lets
itself be affected by this resituated /
inheritors essay on taco in addition to
banking naively on an unquestioned
textual topology the methodology of the
human or social sciences will
uncritically ruin critically rolling
critically rely only
tight follow Jesus this time in front of
the title which is at the heart of the
very word he slashed as they either
points out what
Tice the type to cash leche is the
German word slug meaning strike pitch
blow imprint or type which are
themselves the meanings of the Greek
words took pain and two paws and that is
inscribed or typed into a slashed
because etymological ancestors get
slayed in this Lahti are the collective
forms still preserving the game prefix
of gates left of the old high german
slotty from which locked and sloggin
fire derived this then authorizes data
to treat heidegger's word on Ash left as
words on the time or the slack a quote
type of thought that presents itself as
a thought of the type and quote of the
blow big imprint or strength of the
slark of flesh which leads that you got
to think of this type as a kind of
writing without which no concept of
reading would be possible as you put so
here is a second example second example
second preliminary indication because of
the breeze let us recall this triviality
whatever it's real aberration we beat
the concept of reading is never
constructed without that of a right that
writing which gives us reading or gives
itself to be read kee suit darnellia
or which engages itself at the heart of
reading itself no reading without mark
trace impression inscription and
decisions strike now we will come to
this this pathway towards of locality
pass is necessarily by way of a thinking
of your slash as a thinking of the
strike the Schlag and of repetition of
the redouble strike of the good and the
bad strike brownish less reading that
calls attention to the highly
problematic status of this repetition in
heidecker's reading with taco which
quote remains more platonic intuition
than it seems the spine hiding is
incessant protests to the contrary in
other words Heidegger's differentiation
between a right strike hi / lark in an
evil one amounts to an inherent
the Platonic understanding of writing
according to which an evil bad strike
which Heidegger literally associates
with the Greek word play gay in the play
curse or malediction comes to repeat the
big one
making highly very once recognize the
inevitable possibility of this fatal
accident in which he were not so in a
sense all that you guys doing English my
dream is to put pressure on what he
calls both the grand magic of philosophy
Heidegger seems to buy into when
establishing a platonic or Christian set
up that supposes the exteriority between
essence and accident pure and impure
proper and improper good and evil in
book they this point here is not to
insist on how the bad repetitive strike
might always affect and corrupt flesh in
the manner of some terrible accident it
would have been best to avoid as highly
as extra Mattox seems to commit him to
wanting to stave Nagesh from dis
corrupting force of evil rather they
guys simply trying to point out that if
this fatal accident is able to happen to
get slashed then it must be because the
structure of get slashed or quote the
structure of that to which this can
happen is such that this can happen to
it which means that if an accident can
contaminate the pure essence of a slash
then it must be because things that he
done quote that essence is a priori
accidental the sauce a fue X dou T and
the garage is infected with dissection
and discord from the start which means
say that you think of this accident no
longer as a simple evil but as the
condition both of possibility and
impossibility of that completely unify
go slash their higher years in the time
of carcass and slash all this to
indicate briefly the way in which hiding
as a single target articulates via the
distinction between right and needle
strike a platonic or Christian typology
or understanding of writing which will
directly affect the concept of reading
which as they eat up points out a
triviality as he calls it always emerges
by way of a particular understanding of
type qua right or a variety what time
however this is not the only type of
typological presupposition the human or
social science is made when reading
Heidegger even more generally than the
particular typology stigmatized by how
his essay
Heidegger some Heidegger's own type of
writing which itself emerges from within
his particular technology fighting his
own type of writing or type of reading
how highly describes what he's doing to
taco how he reads taco in some Heidegger
school self presentation or signature
and quote a signature is always of a
type as the key that reminds us
Heidegger's stuff presentation is
something that a classical theory of
reading or traditional methodology
cannot read precisely which is why they
died we'll try this best to understand
what is at stake in the way hiding is
science as I say of croco a text the de
edad described as being essentially or
quote in short Heidegger signature
imprint or strike and it was as I will
suggest in closing there might be a
difference between the way how you go
says he reads taco and the way he
actually does so the latter being
something like called a writing extravagance
extravagance
he makes comical decree to as the leader
calls it right at the outset of collage
three danish committed to showing how
quote a typology is implicated by the
set of by the set of classical questions
dealing with the manner in which
Heidegger reads taco as he explains
these traditional questions of method
necessarily rely on the regularity of a
law that allows Heidegger's typical
gestures to be first of all identified
as a signature or as the trade mark that
gives a highly rataxes distinct and
unique character well then the calls
quote a type of
reading or it's tight like pack machinee
multipy the things insofar as it leaves
a mark behind an imprint quote trace
impression inscription incision below
the type or schlagg of - flesh that make
it possible for traditional methodology
to ask the helpless
Heidegger read question even as is
unable to consider the typology implied
by a dagger signature that makes this
question possible in the first place
what this seems too interesting that the
most as he says is his reading in his
reading of Heidegger English / 3 is
precisely hiding a signature which later
says his other type it wouldn't seem
like a typology of sorts is what allows
that either to ask how about hydras
manner of reading and in turn about his
own manner of reading Heidegger without
buying into the presuppositions that
these methodological questions tend to
make concerning the very concept of
fight on which the core or one at the
core owari concept of really defense the
thought here seems to be that given how
decisive the concept of type is for any
real aberration of the concept of
reading a text giving to read the
thought of the type can no longer be
read according to an old model of
reading then never took into account the
type of text I wish to read and
incidentally what this very type of text
might explicitly say regarding the
notion of type itself which explains
Dana's concern to begin his reading of
Heidegger engage / dream by emphasizing
what type of methodological
philosophical classification highly her
typical gesture or his self presentation
falls outside of here's they done how
does having a read how does he write
what are the movements by which we
recognize his mark interpretation
hermeneutics poetics philology literary
criticism or Theory clearly not
Heidegger typical gesture does not
present itself under any of these
headings and it is necessary at least to
begin by taking the self-presentation in
country whatever conclusions one may
draw from it in the end this extreme
difficulty in thinning Heidegger's
signature down strictly speaking we
cannot even call philosophy what Hagin
is doing to Taco as data points out
inspires one last quasi methodological
precaution on the inner spark if we are
first to decipher Heidegger's shrine and
then perhaps see what is potentially
problematic about it we have better
first make sure not to submit having a
signature to quote the transcendental
epistemological or methodological
protocols of a hypothetical general
theory of reading and writing that skips over
over
heidegger's type of thought and thought
of the title let us now turn to day
those efforts to characterize to
characterize heidegger's in its own type
of reading as we shall see after having
taken pains to be as cautious as
possible the heyguys now in a position
from which to read Heidegger in a manner
that just might wipe his ironic smile
off his face why three writing on
Heidegger overprinting in Vedas is slash
three after pointing out how traditional
methodology fails to ask the top both
psychological questions Heidegger start
of each slash is opening up they that
then proposes his own description of
what he would need to follow Heidegger
cook with the least possible reservation
avec the more than his elfin a
task that paradoxically does not commit
is the mash to quote docile or passive
commentary as he explains this is trying
to follow Heidegger in this path of
thought with the greatest possible
patience and prudence but also following
him with the least possible reservation
this does not commit the dommage to the
genre of docile or passive commentary
rather this requires that without
however being overly hasty suppressive
to object we press on
yes the text to read questions in as
much as possible preferably questions
that apparently do not appear in it as
such the he Levin goes the home to
characterize the manner in which he eats
Heidegger Heidegger signature inference
or strike with a very help with the help
of the very schlock he is trying to read
here thing that mobilizes the
typographical language of the printing
press whose type imprint slack becomes a
sort of lever that helps data understand
what he's doing to Heidegger
and what Heidegger a little in spite of
himself is doing to talk in other words
the very text being read provides the
semantic and conceptual apparatus that
sheds light on how this very text may be
read this is Aviv the topological
thematic that the DA is then trying to
read in a type of logical manner that is
itself inscribed or typed into the green
text into this very text of type they
need a pursues the thought that a
deconstructed reading does not supervene
on the taxi weeds from the outside
rather the construction is always
already happening to and within attacks
even if what is deconstructive about it
be relegated to post questions that
apparently do not appear in it as such
that is questions that the text tends to
repress or evade unless it be pressed to
do otherwise as that either suggests
boom still in the same paragraph to
press questions this Civic is Jim even
if that is done without polemic
precipitation that is that is already to
imprint another text to cross the marks
of multiple writings and languages to
make repetition into over printing sue unchristian
unchristian
there this is still there are at least
two ways of writing on a text in order
to let it appear one way consists in
refraining oneself from every mark or
remark from every writing intrusion that
would risk
covering over or disfiguring what should
precisely appear
loan intact naked the only way consists
in that's the party so does the
typescript bridge abruptly break off
here leading us to wonder what this
other manner of writing on or reading a
text would entail particularly when the
text in question limit Isis the notion
of type which as we saw data argue is
decisive for the concept of reading
itself here we may turn to the very
beginning of history where theta offers
a couple of remarks when trying to
answer the question already posed look
at beginning of this lush trees brief
outlined in English / - how are we going
to read this text though the outline
does not really take on this question
the slash three opens with ADA's attempt
at an answer which would have in
principle communicated with the
aforementioned second way to read or
write on Heidegger or write on a
Heidegger text so this is I think the
very beginning of this lush tree quote
our progression is going to be slow
irregular in its rhythm following an
itinerary no linear representation could
describe isn't saying progression
already going too far about an approach
that may give the feeling annoying to
some the relaxes itself be paralysed by
experience sisters we're not advancing
we're turning in circles we are
backtracking apparently without gaining
any ground without occupying any
position renouncing every concern for
discursive strategy and then all of a
sudden abrupt jumps leaps zigzags
decided each time and we do not know
whether the singular eruptions have been
carefully calculated or if they have
surprised at this course come to it as
the event of the other decided from the
other and book what is striking here is
that what is initially pitched as they
does manner of reading a Hydra text ends
up being data's description about of how
Heidegger himself reads well it is first
of all hydras manner that we described
in his ways end quote says that he died
immediately after the quarter both
suggesting an element of doubling there
proves to be an irreducible aspect of
Davis thought in general and of his
reading of Heidegger English Lashley
in particular as we shall see this
doubling is itself doubled up as they
heat up receptively notices just as
hiding are speaking of himself when
speaking of another in this case total
stranger he later is - speaking of
himself when speaking away which means
he's doubling an already doubled up
situation which is then redouble by our
own attempt is situated in turn this
means on a beam according to which one
is always already speaking of oneself
when speaking of another slides the
discourse into an autobiographical zone
where signatures cross and countersign
each other generating effects of
overprinting serum calcium that will
make it difficult if not at times
impossible to sort out the authority of
all the authorial voices in the text
whose very surface of legibility becomes
superimpose chiu-hung creamy with layers
that one can no longer sit through or
confidently keep apart for our purposes
this means that we do not and cannot
always know who is speaking under whose
name and who is reading whose English
Westry a text which will always say more
and less than one voice at once
let us insist on this doubling a little
further just after having switched the
discourse from self description into the
characterization of high degrees manner
which entails as we saw an irregular
rhythm that goes sometimes too slow and
sometimes fast they either will against
which registers coming back to the
question of how he reads Heidegger in a
manner that apparently mirrors hiding
his own backtracking and quote sudden
abrupt jumps leaps and zigzags when
beating you say that in order to
read hiding it to follow him without
barbaric violence without unjust or
unfaithful violence in order to hear him
without walling oneself up in the death
passivity of commentary must we not
simultaneously regulate our steps with his
his
and deregulate them must be not disturb
their cadence slow down when he goes too
fast interrupt the jump suspend his
gestures or instead leap all at once
toward a given detour at the turning
point of a long procedure the office
paradox here is that even when he slows
Heidegger down or jumps ahead of him
they thought could be said to be still
following Heidegger in not exactly
following you by reading Heidegger in
what is here explicitly called a hiding
Arian manner which seems to him tell you
a certain faithfulness to Heidegger that
does not amount to the death acidity of
commentary they either suggests to
follow Heidegger with the least possible
reservation in a manner that is itself
either Goering does not complete
completely eliminate the violence that
he died inflicts on Heidegger even if
this violence is more just and faithful
than barbaric as he says to read high
degree in a how you gain weight is the
slightest way of repeating Heidegger by
quote imprinting over
Heidegger his own mark a kind of blow or
strike a slug that will definitely leave
a scar behind how exactly than this
how exactly then does things out wound
Heidegger English Wesley this question
point says again in the direction of
what he means to read
Heidegger that is his signature or the
way Heidegger speaks of himself when
speaking of tacos an autobiographical
dimension of idea starts which seems to
have both most interested theydo English
less three hears that he done in fact I
place in this excursus of what most
interests me perhaps in the reading of
this text
what is Heidegger do which movement
which pad which Manas which sense or
other says that he described what and
who doesn't speak about in this supposed
situation of karkos disease take a good
look he is speaking I will not say of
him Martin Heidegger but suddenly of his
own course Heidegger is reading and
writing on the trace of cockles place is
speaking of himself in
the others he is seeking of his own
place in speaking of the others place or
rather he is in search of his place in
following the steps of the other in
court they even goes on to call hiding
his essay on kako a text book which in
short is hiding a signature imprint or
strike and insisting on marking the
quote scene according to which Heidegger
speaks of his own signature he would
then seem like they are trying to
replace his word he finds Heidegger
adopting as his own his description of
tacos poetry both in terms of its form
and content let us now turn in
conclusion to what is problematic about
Heidegger signature
this will entail a bracketing of all the
assurances traditional methodology has
to offers when reading higher your
signature a methodological safety safety
that actually blocks our access to what
is really problematic about Heidegger's
tacos and type a top-off pathological
situation that none better than
Heidegger precisely helps us consider
and be constructed right at the first
page of cache lush three-day that begins
to a little to the merit illogical
doublings in Heidegger sex that most
interests him English / 3 the question
of read the question of rhythm as he
points out becomes complicated because
when Heidegger says about the essence of
rhythm in caucus poetry can be quote
folded back on high degrees writing and
as we saw that he'd assumed the passage
from Metallica stock OSA that they
needed his mind does in fact mention a
thinking of Britain that goes beyond the
aesthetic of metaphysical representation
or mere semblance of its true essence
which high degree things he's just
describing he is hanger the poem the
dish of a poem remains unspoken
none of the individual poems none of the
dish noggin not live there some say
everything however each phone each
distant speaks from out of the whole of
one poem and says it it every time from
the place of the Palm Springs the wave
that each time moves the same as a poet
eyes insane
however so little does the wave abandon
the place of the poem that it's
springing rather laughs every movement
of saying flow back to the ever more
veiled origin the place of the poem
shelters as a source of the moving wave
the veiled essence of what can initially
appear as rhythm to esthetical
metaphysical representational thinking
the major distinction of how yoga sets
up here centers around the spoken or
written forms the centers around the
spoken or written poems dish to win that
heidegger things cockle like every great
poet composes solely from out of a
single poem the one good each that
remains silent but from out of which a
moving wave a bit vague in the Wagah
Springs and poetically moves the saying
of each individual poem that will each
time point and flow back to the source
whence it sprang this back and forth
movement is how that eager describes
what we might provisionally call the
form of tacos poetry though Heidegger
certainly would not know that an account
of his suspicions which incidentally it
also applies to the word rhythm these
would be the technical language of a
science of rhetoric he often associated
with the aforementioned
esthetical meta physical representation
of thinking what quote gets complicated
here is that Heidegger goes on to set up
another fundamental distinction that
will mirror the first one folding back
what he says about the rhythm between
tacos get itched and a sermon on his
description of his own dommage which
will then rely on a periodical on a
periodical reciprocal relationship
invested bitsu between 100 calls
placement and elucidation the two poles
of Heidegger second distinction that
correspond to the terms of this first
one here is Heidegger
because the singular form remains
unspoken we can situate its place only
insofar as we try pointing to it by
starting from what is spoken in
individual points however this already
requires an elucidation for each
individual phone we can easily see that
a correct
elucidation already presupposes
placement Danica's seems to take issue
with what he calls the quote order of
implications heidegger's manners of
reading of taco presupposes an order
that he defined suspiciously close to
the hermeneutical circle and it's
classic form even if Heidegger shuma use
the word circle but the aforementioned
Beck said a zoo which for that he seems
to amount to the same as he calls
attention to the circularity that the
motif of read them and of source both
imply what troubles data here is that
Heidegger has to posit a singular and
indivisible place the Kadesh whence
tacos distant and spring and flows back
towards that will dictate the rhythm not
just of tacos poetry but also of
Heidegger's suppose it correct reading
of that poetry as data puts it without a
preliminary access to the singular and
indivisible place to the purity of the
idiom we could not begin to elucidate
the poetic text there wait for seeds and
this is rhythm itself from the wave
which will give rise to them the
occurrence of the poem would be
unthinkable otherwise the individual
poem only takes place from out of the
place which gives rise to it and towards
which in turn points back there must be
comfortability for reversibility between
otto and we have here a rhythm and we
could say that for the rhythm understood
in its proper essence dictates the
rhythm of a correct reading it should be
a faithful to this alliance to this
incessant exchange between the two
otome and loiter home this would then be
the manner in which Heidegger reads the
rhythm of his correct - reading which
will always have presuppose the place
the tip of the sword that gathers all
taco poems into their source
Donita will emphasize that the
privileged Heidegger grants this value
of gatherings and the indivisible
humidity of this one single poem or
placed well guide hiding is reading in a
problematic way that communicates with
the politically troubling manner
which high degrees doubles the content
and not just the form of tapas poetry to
which I enclosing now turn you would be
beyond of my talk here today to point
out all the subtle and intricate ways in
which Heidegger ends up endorsing or
signing off his own description of the
content of tacos poetry suffice it to
tease out one instance of it that also
speaks indirectly about Haley as written
the steps he mistake when trying to read
and follow tacos poetry a point of
access to which Heidegger seems to find
in the following verse cited nine times
throughout the essay from tacos poem the
souls springtime the versus the soul is
something strange upon the earth is this
de xira and fingers of ham how his first
order of business is to distance his
interpretation of the verse from a
platonic reading which would posit the
soul as something strange or foreign
upon the earth in the sense that the
soul being immortal and super sensuous
he's really not at home as it is stuck
in the perishable and sensuous earth a
way out of which tacos were said Paul
would then be trying to find if read
photonic Li a reading Heidegger thinks
he can avoid by displacing the current
meaning of friend strange a German word
means strange or foreign into what this
word authentically means as far as Heidi
was concerned
here's Heidegger what this strange means
one habitually understands by strange or
the stranger was high strength 100 which
is non familiar and does not addresses
that which is rather cumbersome and then
settling to us however strange friend
old high german from authentically means
ahead towards elsewhere on the way to
towards what has been held in store in
advance as they hate that points out
hiding as gesture is shot through with a
curious doubling on which data things
for necessary
to insist as hyeri displaces the
ordinary meaning of him into its
authentic old high german etymological
ancestor hum he winds up enacting on the
very word friend the very meaning this
word comes to have by means of is
appropriation that claims to displace
the meaning of friend into its proper
one with its proper meaning which itself
will have described and meant precisely
this very movement towards the proper as
Heidegger tells us the foreman here is
Heidegger the foreign thus offender
wanders ahead however it does not groom
about cluelessly brushed of every
determinations the foreign goes in
search of the place where he can abide
as a wanderer hardly disclosed to itself
the foreign already follows the call to
the way towards its property what they
defines particularly peculiar here what
I define as peculiar here is that Heidi
was semantic displacement arrives at a
new property which itself retro actively
describes the very process by which
Heidegger arrives at this new meaning
just as friend now means to be quote
already following the call to the way
towards its proper the word friend
itself ever after having become
estranged from its proper meaning was
also quote brought back home to its
proper its proper meaning of comes an
operation day that describes thus so
here's the EDA on the basis of the old
high german fund to which we return as
though in the direction of a proper of
language the semantics of stranger is
profoundly displaced it's profoundly
displays in the sense of what precisely
answers the call that brings it back to
its proper its home its proper
destination this displacement that
affects in language what language will
have spoken about this return to the
proper destined by a call has been
diverted us from the current meaning of
stranger in our latin languages as well
as in current German the Carnegie became
estranged from the meaning of friend
from its proper mean this not illogical
doubling according to which Heidegger speak
speak
of or narrates what he himself is doing
when reading the stranger in caucus
poetry allows that heat up to transfer
on to Heidegger what Heidegger says
about Taco stranger just as Heidegger
gives them the stranger at precise
destination he Heidegger will to makes
his way towards this very specific
destination which he calls us mortals to
pursue as well quote so that we may
learn again how to dwell in language
like Heidegger presumably has in mundane
that calls quote only one language or a
certain state of language the authentic
and proper old high german source from
which quote our latin languages as well
as her german are estranged and denied
access to as data remarks how
translation then seems a priori
illegitimate in this irreducibly
idiomatic situation this not translate
ability of secret of a secret and pure
German in Germany as a place of dwelling
most Germans never heard of freezes back
to the ceiling one owner of heidegger's
at Otto that is the purity of the idiom
as the indivisible and singular place
the aught that gathers all Kaku poems in
advance and allows Heidegger to jump
from one verse to from one person poem
to the next in a manner traditional
methodology is too quick to dismiss as
they either notices how you get takes
pains to justify the order of is the
match which though he may well give the
impression of being arbitrary just like
Charles stranger only seemed to roam
about cluelessly
Heidegger says is the mash is actually
guided delighted by game to bring our
attention to the place of the phone
almost by way of an eye leap by way of
an Blake's poem no doubt the same leaf
that Taco stranger is always already
making towards the proper and original
watch publish
meaning of old hype trim just as each
taco poem
according according to Heidegger of
course points to the poems one place
Tiger two wishes to indicate the place
by running through a provisional
elucidation of certain poems which all
resonate with one
mother by virtue of a Tony or a
fundamental tone a good tone that
finally permeates each of tacos forms
and Accords a singular harmony and ing
gothic an oink-oink between them it is
precisely the silent unison that gathers
again tacos forms into their aromatic
source which those silent or unspoken it
is not something other Vega says with
the written or spoken poems and gets
rice too which leads him to see how the
silent tonic of the poems place is quote
essentially affiliated in its very
science to the German idiom that is
owned by Germany this will in turn lead
that you got to argue the high degree is
nationalistic Lee endowing Germany and
German with quote an absolute privilege
with respect to language and place which
will lead the human soul toward this
proper home no wonder then hiding I
should want to see this irreducibly
German silence shelters in tacos phrase
I wish leche the tonic which will have
fundamentally a tune hiding as
precursory listening and guided his
choice of poems as they the argues
we remember that is this fundamental
tone it is the very it is it's very
unity that Heidegger wants to make us
here in the I underlined the tone of the
English slashed we can now say in his
scratch with Rocco
Heidegger lets himself the ornament by
the hearing or the precursory listening
of design and I only wish left such will
happen the place it will guide him in
his choice of poems or particular verses
in various forms riddling the path with
holes setting up obstacles preparing the
call and the jumping-off point for each
form for each of the leaps giving the
movement for all the metal indeed transitions
transitions
Harger knows that these choices will
seem arbitrary or capricious coolly
to those who speak in the name of
competency or method only because they
have no concern for or even no idea of
place and go what they need a means by
metal Enoch transition here refers to
hylia's practice of gliding from bone to bone
bone
by means of an inter seeing password
that allows Heidegger in a manner that
calls brutal and fast to rely on the
mere presence of a word or car or
augment in a poem as the basis of an
answer to the question posed by a mother
form where that name word or chocolate
occurred they dice careful here not to
say hi to you're simply wrong
when metonymically transitioning from
forms fun in a manner traditional method
methodology would shining forth as the
egg that points out but the so-called
experts technologists philosophers and
politicians criticized Heidegger for
saying just about anything and for not
saying just about anything that is for
either for arbitrarily jumping from bone
to bone without taking account of the
internal organization in context of each
bone or for imposing on tacos poetry a
heavily predetermined situation that
will make tacos say whatever Heidegger
wants him to say the Incas point here
seems not to want to side with the
criticism of methodologies 'im but to
point out the Heidegger's damash is
actually more radical and erratic then
his own description of it which cannot
explain the metonymic substitution as a
leader puts it so here's naina
commenting on one particular Bettany
transition he says quote I'm not saying
this is wrong but that there is an
autonomy here which is not explained in
the sense of alloy tone or the
elucidation input in other words ideas
concept of electable the first
provisional read-through of a poem or
its explique assume the text that which
is supposed to bring the pure the limpid
it clear does allowed to have of each
individual poem into a first shiny
Heidegger's concept of my term does not
in principle allow Heidegger to use the
help of a second one for elucidating the
first one which does not mean the
elucidation is wrong but simply that it
is doing something the very term
elucidation cannot quite grasp to put it
schematically given one his adopting as
his own his description of Heidegger's
damash which he describes in passing
as a writing extravagance extravagance
Tecla too many Germans dismiss or
ridicule the French for taking seriously
and in the readings in this room will
know that he that does take it seriously
and that a writing extravagance cannot
possibly be all bad for they done and
given to they he does own a radical
practice of reading poets like Milani
poems or salon in a manner not entirely
dissimilar to the way Heidegger reads
Krakow by jumping to and fro as though
to follow a chain of metonymic
associations it cannot possibly be the
case that they die simply against
heidegger's damash of the master data
finds more vagabond more vagabond and
ex-cop of our goal then Heidegger is
prepared to concede and his privilege in
of gathering is destined to repatriate
towards a unified German home the
earning of Krakow Stein is slashed
perhaps then we should differentiate
between how Heidegger says he reads taco
in another gesture according to which
Heidegger does not quite know what he's
doing or at any rate seems unable to it
to account for his own manoeuvres of
readings that do not comply with the
distinctions Heidegger sets up norm with
the nationalistic conclusions he reaches
something high daguerreian in
heidecker's text something Heidegger
himself might not have recognized seems
to be already doubling hiding it so as
to produce something not exactly like
under a fake copy that smuggles in a
second Heidegger who would be able to
read kako and jump and radically about
and around as much as he pleases without
pulling back when faced with a non
German stranger who has no fixed
destination to make weight towards
without break ready the strike mark or
remark coming to color or coming to
cover over or disfigure what hydrators
official notion of amyloid - who claims
to leave alone intact or naked
according to the first manner of letting
a text appear that we saw data briefly
outline over he once which he opposed
eight quote writing intrusion
or extravagance Heidegger perhaps and
Windley indulges in by letting his text
slip into an autobiographical zone where
he too signs his text and translates
tako already within journey in what they
are calls in soft device via doctor that
will over print hiding a signature and
language on to the very kako poems he so
desperately wants to leave untouched or
simply let sink out of their own
supposed and undisturbed and pristine tranquillity in accordance with the
tranquillity in accordance with the Formosan tourism of an intern of in
Formosan tourism of an intern of in accordance with the Formosan tourism
accordance with the Formosan tourism quote of an uninterrupted tradition
quote of an uninterrupted tradition whereby listening in song already
whereby listening in song already irreplaceable as Heidegger asked us not
irreplaceable as Heidegger asked us not to think of his auto home as a
to think of his auto home as a substitute to the actual listening to
substitute to the actual listening to tacos poems a listening Heidegger does
tacos poems a listening Heidegger does not pretend to guide but simply to
not pretend to guide but simply to render in the best case scenario quote
render in the best case scenario quote more question worthy over and against or
more question worthy over and against or perhaps in this sociably together with
perhaps in this sociably together with the Heidegger who officially claims to
the Heidegger who officially claims to render our listening to tacos poetry
render our listening to tacos poetry quote more reflective as we catch sight
quote more reflective as we catch sight of the pure the liquid will be clear
of the pure the liquid will be clear does laughter of each stock open and
does laughter of each stock open and abstain from messing or tampering with
abstain from messing or tampering with it we find or data seems to have found
it we find or data seems to have found at any rate another contraband howdy
at any rate another contraband howdy another contraband and much messier
another contraband and much messier Heidegger the signature is like a
Heidegger the signature is like a palimpsest printed under or behind the
palimpsest printed under or behind the official text waiting for a counter
official text waiting for a counter signature or a counter impression that
signature or a counter impression that will press the repress text into the
will press the repress text into the open called crossing the marks of
open called crossing the marks of multiple writings and languages making
multiple writings and languages making repetition into over printing data sets
[Applause] I like to open the floor for questions
yes thank you very much what we go for this rich talk i just asked one question
this rich talk i just asked one question on an issue that i find particularly
on an issue that i find particularly interesting and this is i think you
interesting and this is i think you phrased it once and how does how does
phrased it once and how does how does nearly darwin's Heidegger in this text
nearly darwin's Heidegger in this text and I think that's very interesting an
and I think that's very interesting an important point is it harder to see
important point is it harder to see maybe in these texts than in other ones
maybe in these texts than in other ones so I'm particularly interested in that
so I'm particularly interested in that and the way that I understood you was
and the way that I understood you was that to say that in a certain sense the
that to say that in a certain sense the reader repeats heidegger's mode of
reader repeats heidegger's mode of reading or his manner of reading and
reading or his manner of reading and thereby opens up heidegger's text and I
thereby opens up heidegger's text and I wanted to ask you if the hinge here is
wanted to ask you if the hinge here is in fact the way that Heidegger is
in fact the way that Heidegger is supposedly understanding about a home or
supposedly understanding about a home or if we could also phrase that differently
if we could also phrase that differently so the point is is Derrida just pointing
so the point is is Derrida just pointing to a contrast between what Heidegger
to a contrast between what Heidegger says he is doing and what he in fact is
says he is doing and what he in fact is doing or can we also on the level of
doing or can we also on the level of what he is doing sort out a certain
what he is doing sort out a certain heterogeneity in in heidegger's movement
heterogeneity in in heidegger's movement so is hiding his text heterogeneous just
so is hiding his text heterogeneous just in the sense that he doesn't do what he
in the sense that he doesn't do what he says he is doing or it is it is there
says he is doing or it is it is there heterogeneity also in the way he
heterogeneity also in the way he proceeds actually or or how does how
proceeds actually or or how does how does this opening up of the of
does this opening up of the of Heidegger's text the work in English
Heidegger's text the work in English like three in your mind you said some
like three in your mind you said some things about it but I just want to
things about it but I just want to concentrate on that on that aspect where
concentrate on that on that aspect where the contrast or where they originate he
the contrast or where they originate he actually is in heidecker's text year
question I think I think first one very I think difficult centers English /
I think difficult centers English / three is the one where he says I don't
three is the one where he says I don't think this metonymic transition is wrong
think this metonymic transition is wrong but I'm saying that it can't be
but I'm saying that it can't be explained it says by this concept of a
explained it says by this concept of a loiter
loiter and it might seem you know on the first
and it might seem you know on the first week that he is chiding Heidegger for
week that he is chiding Heidegger for out there you take one word in this poem
out there you take one word in this poem and use that word from another point and
and use that word from another point and to talk about it but then he would be
to talk about it but then he would be you know back to with the criticism of
you know back to with the criticism of the traditional methodologies that he
the traditional methodologies that he saw thought Italy is mental and he says
saw thought Italy is mental and he says nothing is wrong even though he calls it
nothing is wrong even though he calls it brutal and fast is that metonymic
brutal and fast is that metonymic transition but he goes in the direction
transition but he goes in the direction to say maybe there's something hiding is
to say maybe there's something hiding is doing that his own official term and we
doing that his own official term and we don't cannot account and if that's true
don't cannot account and if that's true that how are we going to describe what
that how are we going to describe what he is doing and I think that is what
he is doing and I think that is what leads that he that just begin speaking
leads that he that just begin speaking of ideas on signature because it turns
of ideas on signature because it turns out that when Heidegger speaks of Krakow
out that when Heidegger speaks of Krakow he is actually signing or imprinting on
he is actually signing or imprinting on taco his mark or if you like he instead
taco his mark or if you like he instead of doing the annoyed tone that was gonna
of doing the annoyed tone that was gonna do that was gonna show us a each poem in
do that was gonna show us a each poem in there limpid crystal-clear untouched
there limpid crystal-clear untouched aspect we're sort of messing with it in
aspect we're sort of messing with it in the way that he is messing with hiding
the way that he is messing with hiding advice pointing to how Heidegger is
advice pointing to how Heidegger is messing with taco without perhaps
messing with taco without perhaps meaning to that's not to say that
meaning to that's not to say that Heidegger signature is unproblematic
Heidegger signature is unproblematic precisely when taken to be hiding into
precisely when taken to be hiding into some nationalistic conclusions that is
some nationalistic conclusions that is very uncomfortable with but I think you
very uncomfortable with but I think you know his hope is that if hiding a radish
know his hope is that if hiding a radish / three he couldn't simply smile in that
/ three he couldn't simply smile in that ironic way he would be when when pointed
ironic way he would be when when pointed out here Heidegger here's how you're
out here Heidegger here's how you're doubling what you're saying about Krakow
doubling what you're saying about Krakow you are yourself saying I think though
you are yourself saying I think though his hope is that God would give it pause
his hope is that God would give it pause but I'm not sure if I if I if I been
but I'm not sure if I if I if I been getting at the subtle difference you're
getting at the subtle difference you're pointing between these between these two
pointing between these between these two heterogeneous layers
did he go thank you very much for your paper I was very struck by an expression
paper I was very struck by an expression used toward the end the possibility of a
used toward the end the possibility of a Messier Heidegger and that's possibly
Messier Heidegger and that's possibly but that's messianic I love that it so
but that's messianic I love that it so I'm gonna steal that and try to think
I'm gonna steal that and try to think about that but there's also there's a
about that but there's also there's a sense only sometimes dairy dog breeds
sense only sometimes dairy dog breeds with a precision that seems to top
with a precision that seems to top heidegger's precision precisely for
heidegger's precision precisely for example with abandoned Ursus leads where
example with abandoned Ursus leads where the phrase angulation appears they later
the phrase angulation appears they later writes on the board
writes on the board Heidegger cites the first two lines
Heidegger cites the first two lines skips twenty-one lines and then reads
skips twenty-one lines and then reads the final items and it's old it's about
the final items and it's old it's about that double point you know the dirt want
that double point you know the dirt want the colon in the first line and then the
the colon in the first line and then the colon at the end of it all and what
colon at the end of it all and what Derrida indicates is that Heidegger
Derrida indicates is that Heidegger makes no reference to the word prior to
makes no reference to the word prior to which the second colon immediately
which the second colon immediately preceding the expression ionization
preceding the expression ionization occurs and that's the word delete and
occurs and that's the word delete and the lovers and this caused me to look
the lovers and this caused me to look through heidegger's essays the words de
through heidegger's essays the words de Bandhan never appeared in heidecker's
Bandhan never appeared in heidecker's essays on truck they are omnipresent in
essays on truck they are omnipresent in tacos poetry you can scarcely find a
tacos poetry you can scarcely find a poem in which brother sister and the
poem in which brother sister and the lovers don't appear and so there are
lovers don't appear and so there are moments astonishing moments when Dalida
moments astonishing moments when Dalida who doesn't feel particularly competent
who doesn't feel particularly competent as a reader of Todd used to say that all
as a reader of Todd used to say that all the time he felt it deeply and yet
the time he felt it deeply and yet precisely at the point where Heidegger
precisely at the point where Heidegger claims to be paying closest attention
claims to be paying closest attention and has to be picking up you know the
and has to be picking up you know the importance of the I know slate
importance of the I know slate which stems from the lovers who raised
which stems from the lovers who raised their eyelids how did I miss it so in
their eyelids how did I miss it so in addition to a kind of Messier Heidegger
addition to a kind of Messier Heidegger what you have with daily DA is a
what you have with daily DA is a Heidegger with greater precision you
Heidegger with greater precision you know I don't I don't know just with
know I don't I don't know just with greater care to actually look at the
greater care to actually look at the words to put it up on the board to have
words to put it up on the board to have his students actually try to follow the
his students actually try to follow the lines of the ball and this this was a
lines of the ball and this this was a it's on page 143 44 of the text
it's on page 143 44 of the text I find it one of the most striking
I find it one of the most striking indication so there is just this
indication so there is just this incredible you know you can't call it
incredible you know you can't call it expertise but just this this eagle-eye
extraordinary so speaking of eyeing our eyelids it's interesting because even
eyelids it's interesting because even when that guy's being a little imprecise
when that guy's being a little imprecise when for example what is it that we're
when for example what is it that we're talking about a lead about a song I have
talking about a lead about a song I have a song but is actually about about the
a song but is actually about about the island but the island but that lead that
island but the island but that lead that he mentioned then bring us back more
he mentioned then bring us back more explicitly to the question of Lieber as
explicitly to the question of Lieber as he finally this reads passage precisely
he finally this reads passage precisely the leaper that Heidegger seems unable
the leaper that Heidegger seems unable to able to account for I guess I guess I
to able to account for I guess I guess I am tempted to say not exactly in hiding
am tempted to say not exactly in hiding us in how to get defense that at least
us in how to get defense that at least the I'd lead the eyelids he mentions and
the I'd lead the eyelids he mentions and in fact that's what gets into his right
in fact that's what gets into his right to start to start talking about the
to start to start talking about the incest between brother and sister and
incest between brother and sister and there's that interesting thinker figure
there's that interesting thinker figure of Myrtle in there I Winelands of course
of Myrtle in there I Winelands of course he doesn't he doesn't then give us
he doesn't he doesn't then give us anything like an explicit discussion of
anything like an explicit discussion of the lovers but he's joining together via
the lovers but he's joining together via this figure of the eyelid eyelid that I
this figure of the eyelid eyelid that I always found fascinating and for him it
always found fascinating and for him it did not
did not say there's Marteau on their eyelids and
say there's Marteau on their eyelids and he connects that myrtle to what he calls
he connects that myrtle to what he calls neutral drooling are you they naturally
neutral drooling are you they naturally satisfy you and all of a sudden he sees
satisfy you and all of a sudden he sees and he sees a neutral scene between
and he sees a neutral scene between brother and sister but then there's that
brother and sister but then there's that other passage that you rightly pointed
other passage that you rightly pointed out how Heidegger seems to focus on how
out how Heidegger seems to focus on how not we are not so much how we're
not we are not so much how we're becoming lovers but how we're leaving
becoming lovers but how we're leaving other lovers behind the others lovers
other lovers behind the others lovers are the others yeah no I think I think
are the others yeah no I think I think there's an entirely different dimension
there's an entirely different dimension of papal States that we means to be open
of papal States that we means to be open I think I wanted to mention it just
I think I wanted to mention it just because it's another kind of
because it's another kind of heterogeneity and one that I'm surprised
heterogeneity and one that I'm surprised when you know when someone whose native
when you know when someone whose native language like wine is not German he's
language like wine is not German he's able to see something that Heidegger so
able to see something that Heidegger so careful of reader Heidegger it's reading
careful of reader Heidegger it's reading trouble before the First World War
trouble before the First World War well chocolate was still alive so it's
well chocolate was still alive so it's not as though he's a sloppy reader and
not as though he's a sloppy reader and yet extraordinarily Derrida is this gift
yet extraordinarily Derrida is this gift to stay with a text and to see things
to stay with a text and to see things that are explosively important you know
that's different Heidegger himself is there are certain
Heidegger himself is there are certain themes and it's interesting that love
themes and it's interesting that love the magnetism of flows it's a theme that
the magnetism of flows it's a theme that Heidegger will never raise whereas mo mo
Heidegger will never raise whereas mo mo um war this is one of darius gift
um war this is one of darius gift and it's important for tronco for heaven
and it's important for tronco for heaven sakes but thank you other questions
sakes but thank you other questions candy thank you I made a tremendous
candy thank you I made a tremendous amount of sense of the text and I don't
amount of sense of the text and I don't know which of the two hi daguerreian
know which of the two hi daguerreian senses that means but the I was
senses that means but the I was especially thinking about all the places
especially thinking about all the places in Derrida's Orcas their immense which
in Derrida's Orcas their immense which begins with reflection on the protocols
begins with reflection on the protocols of reading what what will follow this is
of reading what what will follow this is one of the only ones I could remember
one of the only ones I could remember where the question of passive or docile
where the question of passive or docile commentary is indicated and ruled out
commentary is indicated and ruled out and I'm just wondering about this I mean
and I'm just wondering about this I mean given all the the questions that you're
given all the the questions that you're pointing out about the the the the
pointing out about the the the the collapse of distance between reader and
collapse of distance between reader and text reader and reader reader and writer
text reader and reader reader and writer here passive and docile seem to be
here passive and docile seem to be really relatively strong words here
really relatively strong words here about what you what what is not going to
about what you what what is not going to happen do you have any thoughts about
yes although we can see who he is speaking to in that sense right in fact
speaking to in that sense right in fact many the reader text could be because
many the reader text could be because they were accused of ad nauseam exegesis
they were accused of ad nauseam exegesis why does it take a many pages to make to
why does it take a many pages to make to say what he has to say why does he have
say what he has to say why does he have to quote a book for instance ad nauseam
to quote a book for instance ad nauseam and explain in color and comment where
and explain in color and comment where it's sometimes very hard to parse out
it's sometimes very hard to parse out what he's finally doing here
what he's finally doing here here's the punchline I don't think
here's the punchline I don't think Ashley has any punchlines which means
Ashley has any punchlines which means that your question I think since then
that your question I think since then commentary passive I think there's
commentary passive I think there's something extremely
something extremely acid about it in the sense that he's
acid about it in the sense that he's trying to let the text do something to
trying to let the text do something to itself deconstruct itself or at least he
itself deconstruct itself or at least he hopes to find the text deconstructed but
hopes to find the text deconstructed but I guess that wouldn't that wouldn't
I guess that wouldn't that wouldn't really be that wouldn't really be
really be that wouldn't really be commentary the status of simply writing
commentary the status of simply writing on the margins as it were or here to
on the margins as it were or here to write on the margins means to completely
write on the margins means to completely refigure the text itself right but I
refigure the text itself right but I think you were pointing to all it seems
think you were pointing to all it seems it seems as though whatever he's gonna
it seems as though whatever he's gonna do given the given how difficult it is
do given the given how difficult it is to sort out the authority of places in
to sort out the authority of places in the text can't simply be the case that
the text can't simply be the case that he's going to do something other or
he's going to do something other or opposite then docile or passive whatever
opposite then docile or passive whatever it is so I mean completely agree doesn't
it is so I mean completely agree doesn't simply have a voice say here's what I'm
simply have a voice say here's what I'm doing over and against this you know
doing over and against this you know dumbull Heidegger but thanks I think we
dumbull Heidegger but thanks I think we have time for one more question I'll
have time for one more question I'll give it to ELISA thanks um it's maybe a
give it to ELISA thanks um it's maybe a comment but just want to pick up on what
comment but just want to pick up on what you said at the end about the fake
you said at the end about the fake Heidegger or the double Heidegger or the
Heidegger or the double Heidegger or the contraband and I thought you were saying
contraband and I thought you were saying that Derrida is as it were that fake
that Derrida is as it were that fake Heidegger that in reading it he's
Heidegger that in reading it he's writing on Heidegger he's been printing
writing on Heidegger he's been printing he's drawing out that Heidegger of
he's drawing out that Heidegger of Heidegger but as Andy was just
Heidegger but as Andy was just mentioning gosh let three like all other
mentioning gosh let three like all other Derrida texts sort of communicates with
Derrida texts sort of communicates with all other Derrida texts and one
all other Derrida texts and one communication that I was interested in
communication that I was interested in is that Derrida mentions the problem of
is that Derrida mentions the problem of gosh licked in laughs hosts Monday and
gosh licked in laughs hosts Monday and in in given time
in in given time and the problem of the strike is also
and the problem of the strike is also it's not just type but isn't it also
it's not just type but isn't it also minting coining and so the doubling that
minting coining and so the doubling that you were talking about is related to the
you were talking about is related to the doubling of coinage of money and
doubling of coinage of money and Dehradun himself makes that link in
Dehradun himself makes that link in relation to the fake coin in lewis monet
relation to the fake coin in lewis monet which as he put it could either give
which as he put it could either give rise to another generation so if so the
rise to another generation so if so the fake coin can either will then go on to
fake coin can either will then go on to proliferate and either be the foundation
proliferate and either be the foundation of a new capital or a ruin and so I was
of a new capital or a ruin and so I was sort of interested and of course left
sort of interested and of course left loose money is all about signature right
loose money is all about signature right and counterfeiting signature so I was
and counterfeiting signature so I was interested in the economic dimension or
interested in the economic dimension or the coinage of this doubling technique
the coinage of this doubling technique and what that would Eve what that would
and what that would Eve what that would do to the notion of bringing something
do to the notion of bringing something back home I think we would have to go to
back home I think we would have to go to lacunae back for that and get pricked
lacunae back for that and get pricked it's true that the swag David can
it's true that the swag David can correct me if I'm wrong I think it's
correct me if I'm wrong I think it's true that one of the meanings of Jaradat
true that one of the meanings of Jaradat mentions it Hayden also has that meaning
mentions it Hayden also has that meaning perhaps in a more explicit way today
perhaps in a more explicit way today like what about that's written a lot on
like what about that's written a lot on the topography of course especially as
the topography of course especially as it comes up in Heidegger I'd be very
it comes up in Heidegger I'd be very interested to go to LaForce money and
interested to go to LaForce money and see how that might be related into a
see how that might be related into a little dude which some of you know is
little dude which some of you know is the second half of the of the seminar
the second half of the of the seminar from which my first name was extracted
but it all comes back I guess to the question of the tithe to the question of
question of the tithe to the question of the trace the question of the printing
the trace the question of the printing and for him that will amount to a
and for him that will amount to a certain thinking of writing that will of
certain thinking of writing that will of course implies repetition forgery the
course implies repetition forgery the possibility of going of going wrong
possibility of going of going wrong it is that mmm possibility that highly
it is that mmm possibility that highly her once recognizes but as he says
her once recognizes but as he says regrets so it's not as know how you go
regrets so it's not as know how you go says the cash leche is incorruptible
says the cash leche is incorruptible fighting recognizes that it can't be
fighting recognizes that it can't be corrupted but the problem is that idea
corrupted but the problem is that idea wishes they were not so and he's trying
wishes they were not so and he's trying to say hang on it sure it is corruptible
to say hang on it sure it is corruptible then how are we to think of this corrupt
then how are we to think of this corrupt ability of the possibility of forgery
ability of the possibility of forgery other ones then simply opposing it to
other ones then simply opposing it to authenticity something like that so we
authenticity something like that so we will break now for a brief coffee break
will break now for a brief coffee break ooh oh right out here and we'll resume
ooh oh right out here and we'll resume at five after
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