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This content is a detailed chapter-by-chapter retrospective analysis of the latter half of "A Dance with Dragons," focusing on the strengths and weaknesses of various character POVs and plotlines as the book approaches its climax.

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Back to the gree com YouTube channel

today's video we are going to be doing

part five of my dance of the Dragons

retrospective finishing off the book

we're going to be doing a lot of

chapters in today's video so it's going

to be a long one get some snacks maybe

eat some dinner while you're listening

do whatever you got to do these will

also be on Spotify as well but we got a

lot of chapters to cover this is

probably where dance dragons gets to its

highest point I would also say a little

bit of uh last video as well I think

that a dance of dragons really hits it

strides later on in the book um and so

it really hits the big parts of it later

whereas a lot of other books maybe it's

not as similar to that like for instance

Storm of Swords throughout its big high

moments A Feast for Crows is really good

for certain characters at very different

parts of the story so for instance

characters like Cersei he's really good

at the beginning very good at the end

I think the middle is kind of where

she's kind of in Dan dragons very much

falls into the category of the longer

you read into this book I think the

better it gets because you get away from

all of the Tyrion stuff all the Quenton

stuff you start having less of those

povs and the povs that are kind of you

know they hover around being okay start

to become great like Daenerys and like

you know I think Jon has a lot of his

better chapters towards the very end of

the book barriston gets introduced at

the very end of this book so let's kind

of you know not waste any more time

let's get into the last part in terms of

the chapters I will be doing something

differently I will be doing uh besides

this video I'll have two more videos on

a dance dragons in terms of high rank

the povs and I will also be doing like a

summary type video to sum up my thoughts

and then I'll put all of that together

for a video that'll probably be at least

6 hours long more than likely for my

entire retrospective of the book but

let's get into the first chapter of

today's video Chapter 58 euan 11 now

again at this point of the story Tyrion

is a POV I dread reading because when

you think about what I just said all the

other plot lines are starting to really

get to the meat of their plots you know

we're getting towards the very end of

the book Tyrion is just a character that

I haven't really liked his plot line

since he leaves young Griff that's a lot

of what the I think the community thinks

as well but for me personally I didn't

enjoy much of this Tyrion chapter I I

don't think it's his worst chapter by

any means or you know one of his worst

because I think at least the back half

of the chapter makes up for it and is

actually some of the better stuff of

especially the plotline where Tyrion at

Marines specifically what we see Tyrion

more or less the beginning of this

chapter is we're just seeing how the

flux has destroyed the slavers more or

less you have Tyrion Penny and jora's

master who is basically dying they're

going to try and get some water for him

that's at least what Tyrion tells them

but in fact Tyrion is not going to do

that whatsoever he's going to take Penny

and Jorah to the second Sons he's going

to to try and join their company because

he knows for instance that brown Ben

Plum knows who he is so he thinks that

maybe he can sway them to go to tener's

sides then that'll more or less get him

to where he needed to be and he gets out

of slavery of course and also a slave

master who liked very special or Unique

Individuals I should say I guess is the

terminology you would say for this

master that Tyrion has when he dies well

they're more than likely probably going

to be killed and so when we get into you

know this part of it where we get to

Brown Ben Plum that's where this chapter

actually gets interesting because you

have an interesting character like brown

Ben Plum you have the second sons who we

know a bit from daenerys's Arc there's

also another interesting part of this

that you might not catch on your first

street it's something I never caught on

my first Street in dance of dragons and

I noticed as I went back and reread it

um you know a few years ago but there is

this moment right where you do see like

Tyrion and Penny jousting in the actual

Daenerys chapter where you know rid

stroon and there's this part of it where

they were actually going to send Lions

to more or less kill Tyrion and Penny

and that's something that Penny doesn't

know but Tyrion does subconsciously know

that they got lucky that they were

basically being thrown out there to be

butchered so that kind of plays in a

tyrion's mind as well and betraying I

guess the slavers which I mean they're

slaves like yeah they should get their

freedom but still in terms of the the

interesting part of this chapter it

really just is the flip to the second

sun GS the interactions that Tyrion has

with a character like brown Ben Plum and

all of this has been set up like it

doesn't come out of nowhere the right

the last chapter we saw with Tyrion we

saw him playing saas with brown Ben Plum

and foreshadowing all of the things that

are going to come next but yeah so again

not a crazy Tyrion chapter there's some

decent things in it there's some like eh

it just feels like I we don't really

need more of this and that's kind of

been my big complaint with Tyrion is I

think you know for him having 12 chapters

chapters

as that character he doesn't do a whole

lot in this book outside of just

traveling he should have been

significantly cut down in my opinion but

yeah Tyrion in my opinion only serves to

basically slow the pace down of the book

at this point of the book and so yeah I

don't have a lot to say about Tyrion

especially at this part of the book

Let's just move on to kind of better

things in my opinion in John 12 in

chapter 59 we we have kind of a a very

interesting but weird and 100% NE

necessary chapter it's not one of John's

best chapters by any means as we're

seeing the wildlings come south of the

wall uh and mainly we see John and

torment together as they're crossing the

wall and this chapter builds a lot of

the the tension going on right this is

never been done before really where the

wildlings are willingly being allowed to

come through the wall and you're seeing

how the black brothers are very

begrudgingly going with Jon's orders and

so most of the chapter fills up with

this time of torment and John watching

as the wildings have to give up hostages

treasures and cross through the wall it

is really good setup to I think the next

chapter that we're going to actually see

and and more of the reasoning as to why

Jon is killed a lot of it focuses on

this chapter specifically and so this

chapter in of itself is extremely

consequential to I would say the rest of

the story because you're going to have a

wildling force that at any point could

attack the kns watch if things went arai

like Jon being killed and I think what's

even more interesting is we we do get

this very dark this seems like a very

for boing letter that he gets from cter

Pike that things are not going well at

hard home there seems to be some

mysterious other force that might be

there there seems like again like what

we see in the television show something

along though those lines may be

happening at at hard home and we even

get torment kind of describing the

others and how they come how the cold

comes and they pick you off little by

little they're never too far behind

again for for John and this late of the

book it's not a bad chapter whatsoever

it's just not really like a standout

chapter of John's it it's one of those

that is very much there to set up for

J's big chapters in terms of like his

death for instance and the pink letter

chapter this is in very influential

there but again it's a it's a chapter

that's building things and that's what a

lot of these middle kind of chapters

have felt like for John where they're

building things to come getting into

number 60 barriston 2 this chapter is

kind of a slight downgrade and my as I

mentioned for my first one as the as the

material just isn't I think as

interesting as this first chapter but

what we do see is still very interesting

right he sees watching as his da is

holding court and the relations with the

yunkish which are growing worse as they

bring back goo's head since the

commander of the yunkish died during the

fighting pit incident now if you don't

remember Groo basically was the Admiral

for jer's quote unquote Fleet that she

didn't really even have anymore so it's

interesting because you see how if

Daenerys was here Daenerys would have

handled things differently maybe would

have gone for more of a direct action

would have openly gone against the

yunkish we see Hisar trying to appease

them we see Hisar you know not being

very firm he's very pliable it would

appear and very bendable right and so it

kind of gets people like embarrassed and

thinking like okay is his D in League

with the yunkish does he want slavery to

return and all these things and that's

it's those gears turning right when you

see things along those lines I will say

I think the more interesting part of

this chapter though is how we get the

stuff with Quenton and I thank God it's

through Barron's eyes and not Quentin's

because Barrison is actually an

interesting POV but you know you have

another part of this that I think is is

fascinating because the dornishman even

after Daenerys has left they're staying

at court they're making their presence

still known that's something that's

going to get the attention of his Dar

right this guy comes you know wanting

your wife's hand and you are going to

become a political rival and you also

think about something else you you think

about these hostages that are coming

back and things that make Hisar look

worse is that all of the hostages that

are returned are ones that are related

to the king they're the ones that would

be important to the king and none of

them are the ones the queen would have

wanted so for instance people like like

Dario or hero the the unsoed those

people are not returned and so again it

makes you feel like okay this is a

little too suspect his dark getting all

the people he cares about back but n but

none of

daenerys's very interesting the way

those things work out but either way

barison tells the dornishmen that they

need to leave they've been noticed by

the king and he urges them to flee but

they seem not to listen to their own

doom and this is going to set up some of

the coming chapters right with Quenton

trying to free a dragon going to find um

The Tattered Prince all this stuff that

it doesn't go particularly well and that

kind of leads us to chapter 61 which

unfortunately again this video do not

have the best start right we've had two

of the worst plot lines of the book and

two pretty you know I I would say Middle

Ground chapters with barriston and John

but I promise it does get better Quenton

3 in chapter 61 to me is not as bad as

his chapters before um you know his

chapters before they lacked a lot of

focus they lacked a lot of meaning in my

opinion like like why did we necessarily

need these chapters uh also those

chapters had a a lot a lot of con

convenience that again convenience isn't

always a bad thing right but it felt

like okay this is a little bit over

believability and Quenton 3 isn't that

at all Quenton 3 is all about setting up

this Dragon Tamer plot line that we're

going to see in Quenton 4 and so I think

that it does a decent job of building up

some of that tension and showing how

really inexperienced Quenton is as a man

and trying to be some politically

maneuvering person and how he deals with

like for instance the tattered Prince

and so I do think that in terms of if

you look at like the lower Tyrion

chapters and the lower Quenton chapters

this chapter is definitely above those

right it's definitely more of a middle

ground of the bad chapters like this is

still a chapter I'm going to rank in my

bottom 20 of the book but it's not as

glaringly bad there is is a purpose to

this chapter right because you need to

understand how is Quenton going to be

able to break out this Dragon he has to

have some sort of support and for that

support to happen he also has to give

something up and so I think it also

plays in really well with you know

Daenerys and how she's telling Quenton

you know you should fear the dragons and

all these things and all that and really

Quenton almost takes the opposite view

he goes oh wait my key to this is let me

get a

dragon you see the desperation that's

kind of kind of building up with Quenton

and so I think of all the chapters so

far that we've gotten of Quenton this

one does the best of actually giving him

some part of a character that's

interesting and so I do I do like this

character of Quenton being forced into

position where he's uncomfortable he's

very uncomfortable with the situation

having doing these Shady tactics meeting

the tattered prince in this very not

wellestablished place where it feels

like they could be killed at any point

there is a lot more of that there's

actually more you know meaning to this

chapter that makes it have a reason to

be here unfortunately I still don't like

quenon as a character so this chapter

does get ranked a bit lower for me

because I don't really like him all that

much but more or less what happens in

this chapter it's pretty quick but

Quenton decides to meet with the

tattered Prince to attempt to hire them

in the wind blown and I do find again

the tattered Prince is more interesting

than Quenton and he's not a POV

character we haven't even seen him all

that much but I'm more interested in him

as a character and so when we get that

character you know on the book page I

enjoy you know reading that character

and trying to figure out what his game

is and he asks for pentos and that's

something that Quenton does begrudgingly

agree with albeit how does that actually

occur still kind of left up in the air

but either way Quenton by the end of

this chapter does have his support to

try and take the dragon so yeah not a

bad chapter in terms of you know some of

the other stuff we've gotten um in this

book for the main worst po East tyrian

in Quenton you know nothing great but

this is where I think you have you see

some of that classic George knows where

to place chapters you know coming off of

you know not so great Tyrion chapter a

not so great Quenton chapter he puts

Quenton 3 in between barriston who at

this point of the story is probably one

of the most entertaining povs one of the

most interesting to read with also one

of the best chapters of the book so

George came back spit that's literally

what I have in my notes here like I have

the John con uh 2 chapter ranked number

16 which is really high praise giving

how many Theon chapters I have up here

you know with the likes of cersei's

chapters you know the epilog in here

some of John's best chapters High Praise

right to be especially again with Dance

with Dragons if you're in the top 20

that means you have a very good chapter

because what dance of dragons does

really well is it has really great top

end chapters but also has really lowend

chapters it doesn't have a lot of that

middle ground like say Feast for Crows

does right so to be in the top 20 means

you have a fantastic chapter and I I

really want to you know say that with

John Khan you know both of his chapters

I have ranked within my top 16 he has

both of his chapters are top chapters of

this book and thank God uh he decided to

give us John Conan right after Quenton

as we see the golden company land and

try to take rook's rest which is

surprisingly easy it tells you how

unprepared westos really is but it also

tells you yeah like if a force comes

over from OS the response time might be

very delayed especially when you're

thinking about you know the golden

company hasn't come over to westros in a

number of years there isn't you know it

seems like any reason for them to do so

there's no male blackfires that are are

known at this time or even female

blackfires are known at this time so you

do see a reason as to why this all goes

efficiently you see the golden company

albeit I think they're not as good as

they once were say under bitter steel

because I think they have been a little

bit more laxed and especially under

Harry Strickland at the leader of the

golden Company still shows how great

they truly are right not letting birds

get out taking the castle efficiently

barely even losing anyone they only lose

four men in The Taking of an entire

castle that was John connington's home

it feels a lot like in my opinion you

know Theon coming back to Winterfell

John con is seeing kind of ghosts he

talks about this this one moment where

he and rhaegar kind of talked about his

lands and things like that and how it

kind of seems like John Khan definitely

had a little bit of a crush on rhaegar

but it kind of brings back his youth it

brings up John connington's Mass the

things that he did during Robert's

Rebellion it brings up kind of his

failings where he could not find Robert

in the battle of the Bells again it

really reminds me of Theon in this book

as well where Theon goes back to to

Winterfell and he remembers his past

misdeeds when he took the castle and

betraying Rob brings up all these

fascinating interesting topics to

explore for a character and then how

does that actually motivate them going

into the future we get this even further

because John KH con who's someone that

isn't like Taiwan or at least wasn't in

his younger years he knows that if he

would have burned the village to a crisp

he would have found Robert's bones after

he he thinks about this idea that maybe

he should be more like Tywin that's very

interesting when you think about John

Khan's position right he's the hand of

the king you know he's somebody in a

very prominent position the main backing

for young Griff to be king you know will

he become more like Taiwan if he's faced

with situations you know should he be

more cruel but maybe it's not as

honorable and things like that but it

gets the job done should he do those

things and I find that to be a very

fascinating part of John conington and I

think we'll probably explore that to

some extent given the future uh of John

conington but John connington also

thinks and speaks on his plans and the

stormlands and and westos as a whole and

how he wants to really take storm end

that is a place that will gain them a

lot of respect they won't be seen as

just some foreign Invaders to not be

taken seriously they take storms end

they may find more allies specifically

in places like the reach for instance or

other stormland houses but he also talks

about denying any marriage alliances to

people like aegon as he once again holds

true to his claim that young Griff may

need to marry da Daenerys if she crosses

to Westeros now the issue with that is

going to be I think Ariana is going to

break up and shake up that entire plan

completely but it's interesting that

John connington's thinking about that

right given the fact that Daenerys is

still ano she's still in Marine John

conington is still thinking very much

into the future well another thing that

that shows you that John connington

doesn't have full control over young

Griff and why I think Young Griff will

marry someone like Arion is because

we're starting to see aegon as he

becomes more into his power of making

his own decisions right so John

conington for one did not want duck to

be on aegon's King's Guard and aegon

argues about this and he gets his way in

the end because he brings up the

argument well hey you know it's not

always having the best fighters near you

that's the best thing it's people that

truly care about you people that you

know will actually die for you but also

have some

skill you know he compares this is what

eventually gets him to win is that jimie

Lannister one of the finest Swordsmen

during that time period And yet he

killed Aris Targaryen his King but it

shows you right away that aegon is

taking his own Liberties and so when I

talk about for instance in WIS of winter

when I think you know Arian and Aon are

going to marry it's for reasons like

this we get this talk or this thought

process within John Khan literally right

after literally right after he thinks

about how John Khan needs young Griff to

marry Daenerys or to keep him free when

young Griff you know sees Aron and maybe

Aran puts on the moves on young Griff

young Griff might not be able to resist

and he might get his way in marrying her

to their cause but again like I talked

about the plan for John KH is to make a

statement taking Storm's end and aegon

agrees with this but only has one change

to his plan he wants to lead the attack

and this is very Noble right especially

when you have a lot of Kings who don't

do this or a lot of Lords that don't do this

this

he's very reminiscent to Makar Targaryen

The problem with that and again this is

why I think Young Griff is somebody

that's going to become a little bit more

arrogant I think power is going to

corrupt him a bit more is that when you

have somebody that's you know becoming

more like that when you have somebody

like Daenerys coming over how is Young

Griff going to feel about sharing power

if he's the one that's done all the

heavy lifting right taking Storm's end

defeating the tyrells going to King's

Landing taking King's Landing I just

don't see a world where young Griff and

Daenerys share power especially if young

Griff is married to Ariana already I

this is kind of that foreshadowing I

feel like that that's going to occur but

also when you think about it it's not

the smartest thing in the world to put

you know your person that everything

revolves around in the front line it's

great in all of that things it's great

and it inspires the men but just like

during the peak Rebellion if one you

know stray person hits you with

something like a boulder or Rock from a

gate or an arrow you know pierces you or

whatever okay now your cause is doomed

you are in a lot of ways the last

Blackfire Andor last male Targaryen

alive again not considering Jon if he is

a Targaryen if he's not and he also

hasn't been revealed to be

one putting the last line of basically

the targaryens or the black fires on the

front lines is kind of not the best idea again

again

I love this chapter I don't think it's

as good as his first one because I

really do like how we get more into the

lore of the golden company and it's

young Griff coming into his own which

has been foreshadowed by Tyrion telling

him to go to Westeros I love his first

chapter more than his second chapter but

I cannot fault you one bit if you think

that this chapter is better than his

first chapter they're both beautifully

done and this kind of continues and this

is kind of the part of the book that I I

think I was more talking about you know

in terms of when we get to the best

parts of the book you know we just about

John Khan and how great that chapter is

and you got to think about the next

chapter the next chapter is Asha 3 you

guys know how I feel about Asha in this

book I love Asha in this book she's one

of my favorite characters specifically

in this book and also going into Winds

of Winter but let's get into chapter 63

Asha 3 I currently have on my list Asha

3 as being the 13th best chapter of the

book so I have a lot of love for this

chapter but let's kind of go into what

it is and this is a weird one because

this is the last we have of the north

plot line in terms of stannis's camp for

the rest of the book and we still have

you know another what 10 or 15 or so

more chapters to do I think one of the

biggest issues that I have with the

dance of dragons before I get into this

chapter is that some plot lines do not

get resolved in this book and this is

one of them right like I don't think

this is the worst place to leave it on

if you're going to do you know something

before the Battle of

ice but at the same time you know

feeling like we don't really get the

payoff to the Stannis Bolton conflict in

this book we're forced to wait till wins

of winter does feel quite weird and so

that to me is the weirdest part about a

dance dragons is out of all five books

it is the one that ends probably I would

say on the most Cliffhangers like they

don't have the most natural conclusions

like certain plot lines definitely do

like I think Daenerys and Jon and on you

know where they should be right starting

up her doth raki plot and then also for

JN dying but this is the one that

doesn't really end on that kind of a

note in this chapter we follow as Asha

and Stannis are camped at a crofter's

village around 3 days from Winterfell

food is running even shorter and lower

the fish have all been fished out of the

lake the storm is still coming hard

enough to be blinding and to make

matters worse people are getting more

and more desperate this shows the

brutality of trying to to do some sort

of March in Winter I think a lot of what

we see in this chapter would have

represented what has been seen as like

failed invasions of Russia whether that

be by Napoleon or the Germans in World

War II this is kind of the same note

right you're running into the situation

where there's no food you you can't find

any if you even go out you know a little

bit past the camp you might not ever

find your way back to the camp and die

people are beginning to do cannibalism

and burnings are constantly happening

everyone is kind of on edge all of that

tension seems to be boiling up into this

chapter where something drastic may need

to occur and Asha the whole time fears

that she may be the next person to be

burned and it's one thing to expect your

death but to expect your death in a

terrible fashion going out burning has

to probably be one of the worst ways to

die not something that's Swift and quick

it's a lot of pain and we've seen that

throughout the Stannis plot line

throughout all of the books she even

knows that she needs to stay with

someone like just Justin Massie to kind

of protect her people are ready to kind

of sacrifice her give us any way of

getting out of this snowstorm and going

further on to Winterfell but eventually

at dinner Justin gets pissed off and

leaves Asha tries to follow but the

storm is going on too much to see where

he went when suddenly Asha hears horses

and this is this big moment right if

you're reading this for the first time

you've got to be thinking who is this

going to be it's got to be this force

that we just heard about that were

coming towards Stan to trying to find

them it has to be the phrase or the

manderly force but it isn't and even

though Asha hears these horses he or

thinks it's the Bolton but actually it

is just the party that Jon sent to them

with the iron bank guy so you know you

have one situation where wow this could

have been really bad now you go to

something where it's something

completely different and means a lot for

sis right can stus get the backing of

the iron bank now yes this wouldn't have

direct consequences now because he's out

in the middle of a snowstorm he needs to

you know beat Winterfell to actually

have a position to actually get an army

because it's going to take a long time

but this is very vital and it also is

something else because not only is it

just this party that Jon sent to Stannis

it has a lot of repercussions one you

know the car Starks are playing You For

Fools because of Alice what we in her

plot line with Jon that they would end

up knowing and also there is an

individual that Asha does not seem to

notice it is Theon who has been

completely aged and changed and even the

last little lines of dialogue that we

have between the two is hilarious

because Theon references the time when

he didn't know who Asha was now the

roles have been switch in Reverse we

know that Theon and Jane were picked up

as as Mo's Crow food had been playing

music outside of Winterfell which is

something we hear earlier in Dion's POV

that everybody believes is Stannis but

in turn actually ends up being Crow food

umber but this is it for the rest of the

book right we see Theon showing up to

Sis's camp and that's it there's no

conclusion to the Battle of ice or

conclusion to this plot L that's been

building up for this entire book my

opinion probably the most interesting

plot lines in terms of one as a whole

Stanis and the Bolton plot line that we

just don't get to see the concl of it

and I think this is why I you know

struggle with dance of the Dragons as a

book because I think that it could have

happened in this book if we removed

certain plot lines that didn't need to

be there know if Quenton was removed

from this book maybe we get his last

chapter but he's just introduced with

with Danny right you know if we had just

taken down a lot of Tyrion chapters

having 12 down to maybe something more

like seven

chapters you could have seen the Battle

of ice you know could have seen the

Battle of fire and not getting those

things feels like wow I mean what a what

a weird way to end it for this plot line

specifically but the bangers keep coming

as we move on to chapter 64 victarion 2

again what I talk about victarion is

that he's just a fun character to read I

don't think he's the best character or

anywhere close to one of the my favorite

characters you know in terms of povs but

he's just fun to read you know the

victon never has a a chapter like Tyrion

in this book for instance does where

it's quite boring there's not much going

on there's not much character

development or plot development going on

victarion never has that victarion

always just has pure fun he's just a joy

to read because you never know what he's

going to do next he's just like a kind

of a dumb brutish guy and he makes some

wild decisions we see how victarion has

made mcaro and RoR a strong position in

his Fleet to the unease of his crew and

army yeah if you're looking at this it's

the same idea of Stannis but I would say

almost even heightened so when Stannis

takes Mel right into his like household

and he starts doing these burnings and

things and having RoR be on his sigil

and all that stuff it sends the wrong

message to a lot of people in westos

because they believe either in the faith

of the seven or the old gods and here

it's even more heightened because the

ironborn are much more extreme in their

beliefs it would appear and so when you

have Arion who starts you know giving

sacrifices to makoro

RoR it comes off as a really interesting

situation and also you have victarion

who has this basically blackened arm and

all of that stuff from the last chapter

Theon starts to become somewhat of an

interesting figure right we see him kind

of taking a number of ships as well and

even does a sacrifice to aore the last

part of this chapter revolves around

Dragon binder and how no mortal man can

blow it and live but the dragon will

respond to the master of it which means

he must Master the horn horn with blood

that seems to be the implication that

the master of the horn is the one that

sacrifices the most blood to it and

again we're seeing blood magic prop up

and all this other stuff and again

there's not a lot really to talk about

victarion 2 it's just a fun chapter of

them and their Journey going towards

Marine to get to Daenerys we see the

growing influence that rora has on

victarion and also some of these

Mysteries like Dragon binder and even

what muro's true powers are and who does

he actually serve there's a lot of

interesting stuff there there um there's

not that much in terms of wow very

indepth stuff going on here or as

interesting as other characters right

now in the story like Asha and Daenerys

where she's at at this point Jon where

he's at but victon's just a fun

character to read I think Quinn in his

POV uh list or Quin the GM I should say

if you don't know he ranked you know

victorion quite high but the reason he

did is is because the character is fun

to read and I think the character is

very fun to read but he isn't

necessarily all that high for me but

getting into chapter 65 Arya 2 and I

want to say this as well before we get

into it this is one of my favorite

chapters of the book I have this ranked

as number eight so that should tell you

how much I I love this but one reason I

used to really like a dance of dragons

More Than A Feast for Crows is like I've

talked about with certain characters

like Cersei for

instance they get the better chapters

and the better conclusion of the arcs in

this book than in Feast like I think arya's

arya's

chapters in dance are significantly

better than her chapters in feast and

this is a clear example

why this chapter the perfect way to

describe this chapter is it is like

Assassin's Creed if you've you know

played those video games mixed with a

magical element and it's just so

intriguing how George Blends those

elements we see that Arya is being given

this mission to go back as being cat of

the canals but she's basically being

sent on spy and assassinate Mission she

used to spy out a Target that is an

older man man who makes Bets with

Captain as an insurance and again once

again Arya proves that she's not a

faceless man she's not someone like you

know the kindly one or the Wai because

she goes about figuring out who actually

wants him dead which is never the reason

that is never something that the

Faceless Men do the Faceless Men do not

care you know why this person is dying

or who or who wants them dead it's about

killing them that is the only part that

matters and so Arya kind of struggles

with that a little bit like that's part

of her Arc as well but at the same time

she knows like the kindly men is kind of

playing these people so she goes along

with it of course but we see her kind of

being instructed of how to do it right

she knows she's going to poison him but

she doesn't know exactly how she's going

to do it she needs to practice and so

she has help she has the Wai you know

instruct her how to prepare and even

she's shown the hidden place where the

faces are kept and this part of the

chapter is just so interesting because

still up to this point we don't know a

lot of how everything works with the

Faceless Men and seeing Arya being given

this this face of like this you know

really ugly and sick and poor looking

girl but how does that work right it

seems like there's some magic here it

would appear there's also some like

carving of the face into her right she

becomes this person where she has the

memories of this girl being beaten

incredibly intriguing and really I I

want to get more of this in the next

book it's why I really like in the next

book compared to how I I haven't been

the biggest fan of her in Feast for

Crows um I'm really interested to see

you know how this kind of concludes

right how Arya uses this in the future

but Arya goes about then going back and

doing her usual you know thing

practicing how she's going to poison or

how she's going to poison the man this

chapter does a great job of building the

tension towards that moment uh if you

guys have watched Better Call Saul

there's this moment early on in the

actual Series where not show is more or

less trying to kill Hector he's trying

to take out his pills and just have them

be sugar pills or whatever so that

Hector will die and so he does this

thing where he trains trying to throw it

into his jacket pocket right and it's

very similar to what Arya is doing here

right because she's going to be doing

some sort of slight of hand to get her

poisoned coin into this gold bag of the

person going to meet the old man who

does the insurance because the insurance

man always bites into the gold to make

sure it's real or whatever and so it

really is so awesome the way this all

plays out it feels like an Assassin's

Creed Mission straight out of it and we

see that by the end of it he is able to

pull it off and the man dies from the

poisoning I love the chapter it is just

so perfectly done that I you know one of

the things I think about with peace for

crows and what holds it back as being a

great book in the series I think it's

really good still I have it as my fourth

rated book of the main

series but if it had had chapters like

the inclusion of Ara Journey if it had

chapters like what we're going to see in

the next chapter with Cersei

2 I think it would have been received

much better than what it was because the

dance dragons gets a lot of the high

moments of A Feast for Crows that A

Feast for Crows took all the time to

build up to lot of those moments go to

dance dragons and the next chapter I

think is quite literally the biggest

example of right Cersei 2 which is the

Walk of atonement chapter it's one of

the most powerful and I think

fascinating and horrible book chapters

to read in all of the books it is really

the conclusion of her Feast for Crows

Arc in my opinion I think that yes it

was done well if you're going to split

up Cersei and you didn't have time for

picking the moment where she gets

captured by the faith works really well

for Feast for Crows but in my opinion

the true conclusion of that Arc comes

here with Cersei 2 and in my opinion you

know getting into chapter 66 George

writes this chapter so well the emotions

that we go through in this chapter are

just all over the place it's a slow

building of tension and of emotion the

morning of her walk of atonement as

Cersei herself is anxious to just get

get this thing done with but it's also

kind of left to slowly build into it so

that cersei's anxious feeling only grows

and her dread grows because not only are

they going to you know make her walk

this whole journey right all the way

back to the red keep they're going to

humiliate her as well they're going to

you know have her shaved all over her

hair and all these other different

things we see this proud version of

Cersei but it's slowly broken the more

and more the chapter goes on the more

this chapter goes on the more you feel

bad for her and even me I dislike Cersei

I don't like her I don't think a lot of

people even people that like love

reading cersei's povs it's not because

you like her as a person it's because

she's entertaining to read but you feel

bad for Cersei you you you hate the High

Sparrow and the sepas and the faith more

than you hate Cersei here because George

does this really fascinating thing where

we come off of a storm of sores where

Cersei that are most

unlikable and by the end of dance

dragons you're like man I actually do

feel really bad for her as she's Tri

naked and she's paraded around the city

and people are calling all sorts of

names and throwing things at her and

she's slipping and all these things

it's just so well done you know in the

way that those things are written and it

sets up this compelling Arc for the next

book of how does Cersei deal with the

faith will she do some sort of big

explosion killing some of the leaders of

the you know the faith at this time the

high Spar specifically and maybe

margerie like in the show do we never

see her get her revenge on the faith

until all the way when she comes back

maybe to power in a dream of spring we

just don't know but the emotion that

George gets us to feel towards the faith

in the High Sparrow is fantastic as

Cersei is brought to crying completely

breaking down really this facade that

she's had of being a proud Lannister and

of a lion what she started this chapter

of trying to be he's completely broken

and at this it seems a glimmer of hope

appears for shersey as Robert strong AKA

probably Gregor is introduced to her as

her champion in my opinion this is a

perfect ending for the story of Cersei

throughout the last two books and it is

a major highlight of book five for me I

I put a lot of respect in this chapter I

it's rated number four for me it's just

beautifully done I've got to give George

all of his flowers for you know not only

introducing and taking a risk of giving

us one of our main antagonists and

villains as a POV but also making her by

far one of the best written characters

in book four and five as a whole so

getting into chapter 66 we we kind of

get into the finale of tyrion's whole I

guess Arc uh in this book and saying the

finale of and I guess the conclusion of

his Arc in this book is kind of a loose

statement in my opinion because very

like barison when we talk about his

final chapter this isn't really the

conclusion of his Arc the conclusion of

his Arc is basically going to happen

within the beginning of a Winds of

Winter we even seen some of that in his

sample chapters there's still a lot more

Tyrion that needed to go and you could

tell we didn't necessarily get there and

so one of my biggest criticisms I'm

going to have of Tyrion you know when we

get to the conclusion and we talk about the

the

povs is I think George really should

have allowed for Tyrion to travel a lot

more off the page uh than what we

actually got you know he has 12 chapters

in this book and I think if I asked you

guys right now and you hadn't read dance

dragons in say 5 years to name some of

your favorite you know Tyrion chapters

it'd probably be like maybe the young

Griff section right where the reveal

comes out of who he you know he is or

whatnot or you know maybe him with Ayo

at the very beginning and then after

that you kind of remember some of his

bad chapters but they all kind of blend

together and so this finale is kind of a

Bittersweet one for Tyrion it's by far

in my opinion of any character in this

book even Quenton like of the characters

that have multiple povs um his is the

weakest because not only is his

storyline outside of maybe Quentin's the

weakest it's also the fact that he has

so much time to it and this is what we

get for his conclusion so his conclusion

basically ends up being okay he's

signing some papers and all this stuff

for the second son so that you know if

they go to King if they go to Westeros

and they you know win and all this stuff

they're going to be granted all this

gold from casterly Rock certain lands

all this type of stuff Brown Ben Plum

specifically benefits really well from

this deal and so it's a lot of that

stuff where it's intriguing to find out

more about the second Suns and you're

seeing Tyrion actually you know use his

wit with other people like the second

Suns who are some more interesting

characters especially Brown Ben Plum I'm

glad we got to see more of him towards

the end of the story after he leaves

Daenerys and so that aspect of it I

think is better right I think the

supporting cast for Tyrion in this

chapter is probably the best it's been

since young Griff um you can maybe argue

like makoro in that one chapter that he

was in with Tyrion but personally you

know I think that this element made it

just far more interesting and so that

part of it is pretty solid but it for a

final chapter of a POV it's just not

much really happening here in terms of

big moments you then go to Tyrion and

Penny and Tyrion is kind of in a weird

spot because on one hand he actually

believes that penny has gotten the flux

that she possibly may die to this

sickness because of the way maybe she's

sleeping she seems weaker whatever you

want to say and so you have that part of

it but you also have the part of it that

penny is just not waking up right she's

still playing the girl kind of like

Sansa in a lot of ways because she's not

realizing how dire the situation is

right she talks to Tyrion about dreaming

about her brother and them jousting and

Tyrion sort of slaps her which you know

again it should paint you that Tyrion is

not a good person you know hitting women

not a right away not a good good sign

but in terms of you know Tyrion it's him

wanting her to wake up right of having

to hide all these things from her you

know especially you know we hear this

idea that Tyrion you know knows they

were likely going to die to those Lions

if it wasn't for Daenerys who stopped

that Penny still doesn't know those

things she doesn't realize that yes her

animals are now probably being eaten

like she is just somebody that is not

very aware of the world and I think

there's a lot of people that I guess you

know you guys might maybe watching this

might have someone you know that's kind

of like this like they're kind of living

their own little bubble and don't

realize what's going on in the general

world that's kind of penny so Penny and

Tyrion then have to go get some armor

because you know they're going to be

going into a battle it could be the

difference between life and death albeit

a lot of the armor and weapons that they

have are not the best and have already

been worn by people that have died

before them we also see Jorah you know

come up and he's getting some decent

armor as well but the final conclusion

and and where this whole chapter wraps

up is them realizing yeah we've got to

make sure that the second Sons go for

Daenerys they are on the losing side and

that's true and so that's kind of where

this potline ends and and you're

thinking like that's it right like tyan

who was you know arguably the best POV

of the last two books that he was in

Storm of Swords and Clash of Kings he

was up there as probably the best POV in

both of those

books and this

book he just isn't all that great

unfortunately and that's just the case

of it he just isn't all that good he

doesn't have a great finale so for

instance characters like Daenerys for

instance they have a really good finale

um you know at least in Danny n anyway

one of the best chapters of the book and

you have characters like maybe Jon who I

think Jon's been good pretty much all

throughout the whole story but he has a

massive payoff the end with his death if

you don't believe that maybe him

Bleeding Out SL passing out Tyrion just

feels like he didn't really function all

that well in the story and and so let's

kind of move on not heart ponon too much

moving into chapter 68 barriston 3

barison we're you know only a couple uh

chapters from the end but barison has

two really important ones later in the

book and Barrison 3 is my favorite of

all of his chapters for me I have

Barrison 3 ranked at number seven so I

really want to put you know some

attention to this if you think about my

rankings of the chapters of A Dance with

Dragons of the top 10 I have seven of

those that are within the last like 25

chapters of the book this is kind of

again where the book really Peaks and

really hits its stride EMB barison 3

plays out a lot like Ned's coup in a in

a c lot of ways uh for book one where

it's barison you know he's going over

this plan with Skaha the shave plate

about what they're going to do and it

really feels like and it really reminds

me of Ned and Littlefinger now it has a

different outcome here for Barrison his

coup actually goes off pretty well

uh some things go off that aren't really

in his control but for the most part

what he wanted to accomplish does happen

but it feels very Ned and little

fingeres where barriston you know

doesn't want to do some dishonorable

acts and he wants to do this very

honorably he's kind of doubting himself

this is the right thing to do while you

have someone like skahaz who's kind of

feeding into those bad impulses and

trying to convince barriston to do

certain actions feels very similar to

that it's why I like Barrison a lot he's

very similar to Ned information that

Barrison had even the things that he you

know kind of thinks about right all

throughout this chapter he realizes the

danger he's in how this could go all

wrong and he could die he thinks about

you know his life some of the things

that maybe he did wrong you know maybe

duskendale with ays or thinking about a

past love in a sharaan that never could

be because he was in the King's Guard he

even thinks about nighting some of the

boys because if he dies who's going to

Knight them there's a lot that goes

through Barron's mind as the tension

kind of builds in the pit of Barron's

stomach the whole day right this happens

you know this talk happens a little bit

you know basically a day before it

actually occurs and you can feel that

tension as it slowly slowly builds with

us the you know the audience and also

barriston because the last time we saw

somebody try to do something like this

didn't go well for Ned and he got betray

we still at this point don't know how

much we can trust Skaha and what is he

actually working towards and so you know

you have barriston who does this this

coup he basically puts his daugh off of

the throne captures him in the middle of

the Knight taking down a pit fighter and

all that stuff and it's really

remarkable the way the George does it

and kind of has a nice Twist on it where

everything seems to be going right for

barriston it seems almost too perfect

and it is because by the end of it when

you see mysteriously resn who was

somebody that supposed to already be in

captive you know by the shave P by scaas

interesting that that didn't actually

occur we see that the dragons are

released and so everything went out you

know on a hitch everything went

perfectly well for barison specifically

but unfortunately the dragons have been

released upon the

city and that gets us to uh the next

chapter which is number 69 for Quenton

for we're basically going to go in

parallel to what what's happening with

Barrison we're going to then go to

Quenton and I do think this is quent's

best chapter of the book undoubtedly

it's the one where it builds off the

tension of the last chapter where it's

completely foreshadowed based upon what

resak said says we know the dragons are

going to at least be released but we

don't know how that's going to end up we

don't know how Quentin's plan is going

to go and so whereas Barron's plan seems

to go off without a hitch Quenton is

almost the opposite where everything

that could possibly goes wrong goes

wrong even simple things as having the

right password to get into the pyramid

where the dragons are goes completely

wrong because Quenton doesn't know that

right now the Brazen Beasts are also

trying to do this coup and so they use

the wrong words and so have then a whole

breakout and fight that happens between

the wind blown and then also the Brazen

Beast Quenton himself is almost killed

in this little Skirmish but they do

eventually get to the dragons and this

is where everything pretty much goes

wrong viserion looks to try and flee and

get out of the pit that he's been

trapped in we see that some of the

chains have broken one of the Dragons

everything is just that could possibly

go wrong for Quenton goes wrong Quenton

trying to be the hero and trying to be

this this person to claim a dragon

because he does have dragon blood within

him he tries to do what Daenerys did he

has this Whip and he tries to whip

viserion into liking him or submitting

to him Quenton is never that person he's

never the strong willed person or the

most muscular and he goes down in a ball

of flame with Regal burning him and

killing him now we're told he doesn't

die for another three days and I want to

preference Quenton is dead he's not

coming back I don't care what anybody

else says if George brings back this

character I will just be like I don't

even know what I would say I'd be

extremely disappointed because this

feels like the culmination of Quentin's

Arc now do I like really love this

chapter no I still have this as a middle

of theack chapter because I don't really

like Quenton that much or even care

about him as a character to this point I

think he's wasted more time in this

story than added to it so at least in

this chapter though there is emotion

there there is you know a feeling of

tension everything going wrong a bit of

you know sadness that Quenton goes out

in a very horrific way and you almost be

like Quenton why are you this stupid why

you're reading it and so yes you know

this is the conclusion of the character

for me I believe Quenton is dead I don't

see any relevance to really bring him

back as a character I just think he

needs to die and especially we're trying

to condense the story and we have far

too many people s in Marine having

Quenton be alive just doesn't really sit

right to me and doesn't really make all

that much sense but that ends the

Quenton Arc and gets us into the last

four chapters of the book some of the

best of the entire Series so Chapter 70

is the conclusion to John's Arc as we

get into John

13 and John 13 to me is the perfect

conclusion of this story every single

chapter has been building up to this

moment where JN B basically is betraying

what the knights watch believe and them

turning on him everything has led up to

that moment and so so that just

completely boils over here and what I

think is great is you know regardless of

what you think about Quenton we have two

POV characters that basically die backto

back with Quenton and then JN and so we

start this chapter and it starts kind of

calm you know it's John planning to go

to hard home with the kns watch the bulk

majority of their strength to try and

relieve you know whatever is left of

what is at hard home and this already

gets met with massive disapproval from

people like Mel and SEL who believe they

should just let them have their own fate

right and I to an extent I agree with

them because what could Jon really do if

there's this big army of the others

there the knights Watchmen just do not

have the power and strength to fight

them we saw that for instance in the

television show where they decided to go

with JN going to hard home uh regardless

and so I do personally think it's

interesting that we start out this

chapter with JN having one plan and then

getting bounce to another plan and it

just kind of builds up JN being this

leader who hasn't been very good at this

right and so when we continue on after

this U meeting he decides to go forward

with it anyway and starts making the

plans but he receives a letter and this

letter has sparked a ton of discussion

about who wrote it why they wrote wrote

it what's the point of this letter it's

one of my favorite discussions in the

community it's one of the biggest

theories on the pink letter it's

supposedly written by Ramsay it could be

somebody else like mans Stannis Theon

there's been a number of theories that

have come from this but it's so

intriguing because of what's in the

letter because of what's to come with

the Battle of ice plot line because we

didn't get stannis's you know plot line

to finish out this book we don't know

what to take away from this letter

because the last time we see Stannis

seems like he's doing a bit better right

the banker gets there we have this

Revelation about the car

Starks but what truly is going on right

and especially when you think about the

wording where it says Stannis has been

defeated in seven days of battle why

would it take seven days of battle for

them to beat Stannis who at this point

seems to be pretty broken down right now

I get it they are camped three days away

from Winterfell so maybe you think three

days of journeying from the fry manderly

Forces Day of battle and three days back

but that really wouldn't be seven days

of battle so it is interesting that the

context of which this is written uh also

he thinks also it's written that they

want the hostages back so people like

Mel people like Shireen CIS he wants

Theon and Jane pullback or he says Arya

and so there's a lot in here to kind of

digest and also talk about Mana

situation because it just doesn't seem

to make sense as to why this is being

stated to us

when we just saw asha's chapter you know

a couple chapters before and so this has

sparked a lot of the community debate

why is why would Ramsey send this to JN

or why would man send this to JN or why

would who why was this letter

sent and so I love that introduction at

the very end of the book because it

Sparks your thought process of what that

actually truly means and either way

either way whatever the motivation was

whatever whoever wrote it it gets Jon to

take the bait obviously it's basically

boiling over this idea that Jon has been

fighting his whole time as a kns

Watchman his vows and being a stark and

because of the wording he decides to

abandon the hard home journey and this

is what I think is even more just crazy

so this group is supposedly going to be

led by mainly Knights Watchmen not the

actual wildlings so why is tormund being

named the person in charge of this

Venture when you know the knights

Watchmen do not like the wild

Lings it just seems like a very bad plan

and yes you might be thinking well

tormund knows you know all about hard

home how to get there

whatever making him in charge is

something you know the knights WatchON

are not going to like and is going to

cause issues so this makes no sense to

me it's just another blunder of a

decision that Jon makes very close to

his death but you might be thinking okay

well what's Jon going to do then if he's

not going to lead the knights Watchman

to hard home well he's going to lead

whoever wants to come with him

Winterfell and this decision goes really

well with the wildlings one because a

they're threatening the wildlings the

boltons don't like the wildings they're

going to push him out try to kill them

all also you have man's you know

whereabouts and being alive of course

the wildlings are going to support him

also Jon has done everything he can for

the wildlings and so they're kind of you

know respecting him a bit there but this

is the final nail right everything I've

talked about throughout this entire

series has been about Jon pushing people

away not being able to explain his

situation all those things and you see

this here where Bowen Marsh and yarick

leave this little meeting and Jon

doesn't seem to care right Jon's like

well at least you know the other Knights

Watchmen don't have to break their vows

all those things but he's not

understanding inwardly how this looks on

him he is the Lord commander and he is

breaking his vows if you're somebody

else if you're a common you know person

you know you're not that high up in the

night's watching your seeing this you're

going well if can break his vows why

shouldn't I be able to break my

vows it's you know leading by example

and Jon's not doing a great job of that

he's letting his feelings and things

like that get in the way and that leads

Jon to go tell SEL about the news

because obviously she needs to know her

husband is allegedly died their cause is

completely gone and Ramsay is

threatening them but on the way he sees

one one smash sir Patrick's body against

a tower wall and as he goes to calm him

he is attack attacked and betrayed by

his brothers with tears in their eyes

they stab him saying for the watch as JN

as Jon bleeds out slash dies some people

also believe that maybe he's just still

alive and that maybe he can be healed at

this point I don't think so I think he

is dead I think he is his Essence is

going into ghost at this point but this

is a crazy Cliffhanger right Jon's

alleged death the very end of the book

going into Winds of Winter but it feels

like the natural conclusion where I've

talked about a lot of plot lines don't

naturally conclude in this book J's does

J's death being the ending of the north

plot line makes a lot of sense and so I

think George did a really fantastic job

with Jon in this book specifically he's

probably you know up there is one of the

best povs I say theon's the cemented

number one but he's definitely in like

that top three area and I I would say

this is Jon's second book I could

definitely see you saying this is his

best I I think for me it's kind of a

tossup between book three and book five

whichever you prefer if you like the big

moments of of book three and John's

Exploration with you know the wildings

and what they're about and the attack on

the wall you're going to prefer book

three but if you prefer John you know as

a lord Commander having to make tough

decisions and his you know ability to

try and integrate the wildings into

their culture and all that stuff you'll

like this book more but personally I

think a great plot line for JN and of

all the plot lines I think it ends

pretty perfectly so getting to chapter

71 which is our final barriston chapter

of the book it's all about kind of

dealing with the Fallout of what has

just occurred in the last two Marine

chapters while also setting up the big

battle and unfortunately you know like I

just got ton talking about with JN where

Jon's ends perfectly Barry and the

Marine plot does not the natural spot

where this seemed that it should end

should have been this battle of fire or

Battle of marine but that doesn't occur

in this chapter now this is a good

chapter I don't want to take away from

that but it doesn't seem like a natural

chapter to end this story on as the

thing that ends this story I'll kind of

go from the you know the back of this

chapter to the front but the thing that

ends this chapter is basically barison

deciding that we're going to battle uh

the slavers as the green Graces come

back from negotiating with them and they

declare that they want both the dragons

killed to even have any type of Peace

obviously barison is not going to do

that and so we then see as the trebuchet

launch corpses into the city hoping to

more than likely spread the plague and

as a kind of a Fear Factor and so that

all sounds good and well right that's a

great place to end a chapter but that

doesn't feel like a great place to end a

plotline for an entire book it feels

like there's something that's not

resolved there that we should have seen

some conflict between the slavers and

the free men at some point and it just

got pushed to wins of winter

unfortunately but we see that Quenton

has died after 3 days from the incident

in his chapter barriston prompts that he

will hopefully be sent back to the dornish and he is prompted by skahaz to

dornish and he is prompted by skahaz to start the counil where they discuss a

start the counil where they discuss a lot of different issues the sons of the

lot of different issues the sons of the harpy have not reacted well to his Dar

harpy have not reacted well to his Dar being put in prison so they've started

being put in prison so they've started their killings once again again this

their killings once again again this would seem to indicate his has some

would seem to indicate his has some connection to them we also see that

connection to them we also see that there have been a protest for Hisar to

there have been a protest for Hisar to be released as well the captives that

be released as well the captives that the yunkish have that's you know how do

the yunkish have that's you know how do they fix that issue they still have some

they fix that issue they still have some of daenerys's captives tactics again of

of daenerys's captives tactics again of the coming battle is also discussed what

the coming battle is also discussed what are they going to do and they basically

are they going to do and they basically come to the idea that they need to take

come to the idea that they need to take out the slavers if they do that then the

out the slavers if they do that then the other slave then the other you know cell

other slave then the other you know cell sword companies will fall back in line

sword companies will fall back in line but yeah so it's it's really just a kind

but yeah so it's it's really just a kind of a setup chapter mixed with also

of a setup chapter mixed with also having a bit of a payoff to like the

having a bit of a payoff to like the battle is going to start but it doesn't

battle is going to start but it doesn't start in this book so I would say a kind

start in this book so I would say a kind of a disappointing finish for barriston

of a disappointing finish for barriston in this book but albeit not a bad

in this book but albeit not a bad chapter

chapter whatsoever so chapter 72 in the last

whatsoever so chapter 72 in the last main POV chapter before we get to the

main POV chapter before we get to the epilogue is Daenerys 10 and Daenerys 10

epilogue is Daenerys 10 and Daenerys 10 to me is a chapter that I almost go back

to me is a chapter that I almost go back and forth on because in terms of it

and forth on because in terms of it concluding all of the main POV stories

concluding all of the main POV stories it's kind of a weird one because it's a

it's kind of a weird one because it's a chapter that just doesn't have like a

chapter that just doesn't have like a really big high moment to it to end out

really big high moment to it to end out the series you know if you think about a

the series you know if you think about a Game of Thrones right some of the ending

Game of Thrones right some of the ending chapters that you have there where you

chapters that you have there where you know you have Daenerys Awakening the

know you have Daenerys Awakening the dragons Rob becoming King of the North

dragons Rob becoming King of the North Jon picking side like he's going to stay

Jon picking side like he's going to stay with the Knights watch you know Tyrion

with the Knights watch you know Tyrion being named hand of the king you don't

being named hand of the king you don't really have that here right it's just

really have that here right it's just showing us Daenerys what happened after

showing us Daenerys what happened after Marine she's landed kind of in the doth

Marine she's landed kind of in the doth in the Dothraki sea on this random like

in the Dothraki sea on this random like rock face more or less that's basically

rock face more or less that's basically become drogon's home which Daenerys

become drogon's home which Daenerys thematically names Dragon Stone which is

thematically names Dragon Stone which is I think is a pretty cool

I think is a pretty cool but we don't really see much right it's

but we don't really see much right it's kind of Daenerys just wandering around

kind of Daenerys just wandering around the dothi sea hoping she's going south

the dothi sea hoping she's going south to

to Marine it's not anything crazy I mean

Marine it's not anything crazy I mean the the good stuff of this chapter which

the the good stuff of this chapter which I think is good is we get a little bit

I think is good is we get a little bit more into the connection between the

more into the connection between the dragon and the rider even though

dragon and the rider even though Daenerys has been able to ride drogon

Daenerys has been able to ride drogon that doesn't mean drogon obeys her

that doesn't mean drogon obeys her drogon is not willing to fly her back to

drogon is not willing to fly her back to Marine and always comes back to this

Marine and always comes back to this little it feels like an island within

little it feels like an island within the doth rck EC

the doth rck EC and so you see a little bit of that

and so you see a little bit of that connection which is really fascinating I

connection which is really fascinating I I think her hallucinations in terms of

I think her hallucinations in terms of when she sees viseris and Jorah and qu

when she sees viseris and Jorah and qu it all seems to have this theme of

it all seems to have this theme of remembering who you are which has been a

remembering who you are which has been a very present theme of this book

very present theme of this book specifically and so in that aspects of

specifically and so in that aspects of it I really like it because it ties into

it I really like it because it ties into daenerys's past who she needs to become

daenerys's past who she needs to become really well but at the same time a lot

really well but at the same time a lot of this chapter is daenerys's wandering

of this chapter is daenerys's wandering around starving dehydrated just walking

around starving dehydrated just walking around kind of

around kind of aimlessly getting sick more or less it

aimlessly getting sick more or less it just feels like a very weird chapter to

just feels like a very weird chapter to end on for Daenerys I think the natural

end on for Daenerys I think the natural ending for Daenerys felt more normal

ending for Daenerys felt more normal with Daenerys

with Daenerys 9 but I don't hate this chapter either

9 but I don't hate this chapter either like it's not a bad chapter it's just a

like it's not a bad chapter it's just a kind of a casual Daenerys chapter once

kind of a casual Daenerys chapter once again it's just kind of in the middle

again it's just kind of in the middle right it's just you know it's there and

right it's just you know it's there and kind of how I felt about jys entire book

kind of how I felt about jys entire book I think she has good elements to some of

I think she has good elements to some of her chapters and then bad elements to

her chapters and then bad elements to some of her chapters it just kind of

some of her chapters it just kind of swings back and forth depending on where

swings back and forth depending on where you are in her chapter and so it feels

you are in her chapter and so it feels almost like a natural point of like this

almost like a natural point of like this is basically what jys has been in this

is basically what jys has been in this book but I do find it weird because it

book but I do find it weird because it almost feels like like Daenerys 10

almost feels like like Daenerys 10 almost feels like it should have been

almost feels like it should have been Daenerys one of wins of winner because

Daenerys one of wins of winner because it kind of is a good catchup of

it kind of is a good catchup of everything that's happened because you

everything that's happened because you haven't been with the nerys for a while

haven't been with the nerys for a while after Daenerys 9 and Daenerys 10 it's

after Daenerys 9 and Daenerys 10 it's quite a bit of a

quite a bit of a gap but I don't know at the same time I

gap but I don't know at the same time I also understand why George wanted to

also understand why George wanted to have the End of This Book show us where

have the End of This Book show us where she's going to go in the next book with

she's going to go in the next book with the doth raki so I don't know I'm kind

the doth raki so I don't know I'm kind of back and forth on the placement of

of back and forth on the placement of this chapter I almost feel like Daenerys

this chapter I almost feel like Daenerys 10 if it was going to be a chapter

10 if it was going to be a chapter should have been pushed back a bit I

should have been pushed back a bit I think personally John 13 should have

think personally John 13 should have been this chapter I think it should have

been this chapter I think it should have been placed right before the

been placed right before the epilogue but but who knows U maybe you

epilogue but but who knows U maybe you put Daenerys and John spot and then you

put Daenerys and John spot and then you separate so you have one separating

separate so you have one separating Barrison and

Barrison and Quenton I don't know let me know what

Quenton I don't know let me know what you guys think about the placement of

you guys think about the placement of jys 10 at the very end besides the

jys 10 at the very end besides the epilog but yeah so let's move on to the

epilog but yeah so let's move on to the last chapter of a dance dragons chapter

last chapter of a dance dragons chapter 73 and in my opinion this is the perfect

73 and in my opinion this is the perfect chapter to end on I have it ranked again

chapter to end on I have it ranked again within my top 10 it's number nine I

within my top 10 it's number nine I really loved being inside Kevin

really loved being inside Kevin Lannister's head we get to see a small

Lannister's head we get to see a small council meeting that feels like some of

council meeting that feels like some of the older Council meetings with

the older Council meetings with characters like you know for instance

characters like you know for instance Ned and Littlefinger and Varys it felt a

Ned and Littlefinger and Varys it felt a lot like that it's a lot of an info dump

lot like that it's a lot of an info dump almost of what's going on in the world

almost of what's going on in the world and how Kevin Lannister and the

and how Kevin Lannister and the Lannister regime is going to react

Lannister regime is going to react against those a heavy part of the first

against those a heavy part of the first half of this chapter focuses on the

half of this chapter focuses on the threat of young Griff and the golden

threat of young Griff and the golden company and Kevin Lannister is kind of

company and Kevin Lannister is kind of in a weird position because his standing

in a weird position because his standing army like his power is not with him it's

army like his power is not with him it's actually in the riverlands with Jamie

actually in the riverlands with Jamie and you also have Jamie who's

and you also have Jamie who's disappeared so laners very much have to

disappeared so laners very much have to rely on the tyrells and have to

rely on the tyrells and have to basically allow them to gain more power

basically allow them to gain more power they can't really stop it and so Kevin

they can't really stop it and so Kevin Lannister realizes that but he also is

Lannister realizes that but he also is using their armies he's using the Tyrel

using their armies he's using the Tyrel Army to go deal with the golden company

Army to go deal with the golden company at Storm's end he's using the red wine

at Storm's end he's using the red wine Fleet to go deal with euron in the west

Fleet to go deal with euron in the west so it's kind of showing where all the

so it's kind of showing where all the pieces are before we head into Winds of

pieces are before we head into Winds of Winter and it really works well because

Winter and it really works well because you have us refreshing it's almost a

you have us refreshing it's almost a summary of a lot of the main plots they

summary of a lot of the main plots they also mentioned Daenerys in this like

also mentioned Daenerys in this like they don't want Daenerys to link up with

they don't want Daenerys to link up with young griffs they need to deal with this

young griffs they need to deal with this swiftly I really do enjoy a lot of what

swiftly I really do enjoy a lot of what we get at the small council meeting and

we get at the small council meeting and how you even see Kevin who kind of

how you even see Kevin who kind of sympathizes with Cersei a bit because

sympathizes with Cersei a bit because he's becoming incredibly annoyed and

he's becoming incredibly annoyed and frustrated with the tyrells but he knows

frustrated with the tyrells but he knows you know he needs them so I think that

you know he needs them so I think that part of the chapter is fantastic I

part of the chapter is fantastic I always enjoy the small Council meetings

always enjoy the small Council meetings and especially through Kevin's eyes

and especially through Kevin's eyes who's always always who has always been

who's always always who has always been overlooked as a character being in

overlooked as a character being in Taiwan Shadow I thought this was a

Taiwan Shadow I thought this was a perfect character to end it on so we

perfect character to end it on so we then transition to the next phase of

then transition to the next phase of this chapter which is the dinner

this chapter which is the dinner sequence with

sequence with Cersei and this also is really

Cersei and this also is really interesting because we don't know how

interesting because we don't know how Cersei is feeling after the Walk of

Cersei is feeling after the Walk of atonement and so it's great because it

atonement and so it's great because it puts us into the eyes of of Kevin

puts us into the eyes of of Kevin Lannister the head of Kevin Lannister

Lannister the head of Kevin Lannister where Cersei seems to be a tamed lion

where Cersei seems to be a tamed lion she seems to have lost all that pride

she seems to have lost all that pride and and I mean arrogancy that she used

and and I mean arrogancy that she used to have she seems more docile and so

to have she seems more docile and so when you look at that you thinking in in

when you look at that you thinking in in my head I'm thinking I'm reading this

my head I'm thinking I'm reading this seems all to be an act or is this truly

seems all to be an act or is this truly Cersei has changed and that's what Kevin

Cersei has changed and that's what Kevin lanister has to play through his head

lanister has to play through his head and Kevin Lannister you know even thinks

and Kevin Lannister you know even thinks about things that happened in the past

about things that happened in the past right how Cersei was supposed to be you

right how Cersei was supposed to be you know married to rhaegar but that never

know married to rhaegar but that never went through but what could have

went through but what could have happened differently that occurred even

happened differently that occurred even for Cersei herself

for Cersei herself it's very interesting to see the way

it's very interesting to see the way Kevin looks at those events because you

Kevin looks at those events because you also think about A Storm of Swords where

also think about A Storm of Swords where Kevin was the person that interacted

Kevin was the person that interacted with Tyrion when he was the one in the

with Tyrion when he was the one in the cells and how he kind of goes against Ty

cells and how he kind of goes against Ty and I don't blame him for that all the

and I don't blame him for that all the evidence or evidence that he was seeing

evidence or evidence that he was seeing all went against him and Tyrion didn't

all went against him and Tyrion didn't really have a great defense but it's

really have a great defense but it's kind of interesting the way you think

kind of interesting the way you think about how Kevin views Cersei versus

about how Kevin views Cersei versus someone like

someone like tyrian and so this Diner goes about as

tyrian and so this Diner goes about as well as it can go and then all of a

well as it can go and then all of a sudden

sudden pyel apparently calls for Kevin

pyel apparently calls for Kevin Lannister this is very suspicious right

Lannister this is very suspicious right off the bat just based upon the fact

off the bat just based upon the fact that the two were just speaking only a

that the two were just speaking only a couple Pages you know ago you're not

couple Pages you know ago you're not going to see it coming of course but the

going to see it coming of course but the thing is it's like hm nice little

thing is it's like hm nice little interesting tidbit on a reread to think

interesting tidbit on a reread to think about like H that shouldn't really make

about like H that shouldn't really make much sense you guys were just with each

much sense you guys were just with each other and another thing to kind of

other and another thing to kind of foreshadow the events to come and the

foreshadow the events to come and the Winds of Winter is that it seems to be

Winds of Winter is that it seems to be heavily snowing at King's Landing winter

heavily snowing at King's Landing winter has finally come for the South hence the

has finally come for the South hence the name for the next book The Winds of

name for the next book The Winds of Winter but as Kevin Lannister gets to

Winter but as Kevin Lannister gets to The Rook to The Rookery there's no one

The Rook to The Rookery there's no one that seems to be here and D as Kevin

that seems to be here and D as Kevin Lannister seems to just almost leave he

Lannister seems to just almost leave he is hit by a crossbow bolt and this is

is hit by a crossbow bolt and this is the worst way that Kevin Lannister could

the worst way that Kevin Lannister could possibly die in his head going out the

possibly die in his head going out the same way that his brother who he's

same way that his brother who he's always in the shadow of went out as well

always in the shadow of went out as well but it comes as this massive reveal

but it comes as this massive reveal because Varys has been nowhere to be

because Varys has been nowhere to be found the entire book and Kevin hearing

found the entire book and Kevin hearing this monologue by Varys is one of the

this monologue by Varys is one of the most interesting and awesome ways to

most interesting and awesome ways to foreshadow the next book as he gives his

foreshadow the next book as he gives his speech about young Griff and even

speech about young Griff and even commends Kevin for doing a good job

commends Kevin for doing a good job almost taunting him on his deathbed but

almost taunting him on his deathbed but all this comes to a head as you know

all this comes to a head as you know Kevin is questioning how young Griff or

Kevin is questioning how young Griff or aegon could truly be him but he is cut

aegon could truly be him but he is cut off as a little birds arrive to finish

off as a little birds arrive to finish the job of Kevin Lannister

the job of Kevin Lannister and that ends the book now I think this

and that ends the book now I think this is the perfect ending for dance of the

is the perfect ending for dance of the dragons and I want to say towards the

dragons and I want to say towards the end of this you know as I'm kind of

end of this you know as I'm kind of winding down in this video and we'll

winding down in this video and we'll talk about the conclusion and we'll talk

talk about the conclusion and we'll talk about the POV rankings all that stuff I

about the POV rankings all that stuff I do want to say I think the reason that

do want to say I think the reason that dance dragons is I think regarded more

dance dragons is I think regarded more fondly by the Casual fan base than say

fondly by the Casual fan base than say something you know like A Feast for

something you know like A Feast for Crows is based upon the ending again

Crows is based upon the ending again remember within the last 20 chap 25

remember within the last 20 chap 25 chapters we've done how many of those

chapters we've done how many of those have actually been in my top 10 I even

have actually been in my top 10 I even gave you guys the number I said seven

gave you guys the number I said seven earlier on in the video this book ends

earlier on in the video this book ends on a very very high note it might not be

on a very very high note it might not be a complete high note because some of the

a complete high note because some of the plot lines don't naturally conclude to

plot lines don't naturally conclude to where they should be but a lot of them

where they should be but a lot of them do it and it ends on this such an

do it and it ends on this such an intriguing note where you just want to

intriguing note where you just want to keep reading more you want to see what

keep reading more you want to see what Young Griff's going to do you want to

Young Griff's going to do you want to see how the Jon Snow plot Line's going

see how the Jon Snow plot Line's going to go now that he's dead you want to see

to go now that he's dead you want to see the Battle of ice you want to see the

the Battle of ice you want to see the Battle of fire so it ends on this note

Battle of fire so it ends on this note that makes you want to keep reading it's

that makes you want to keep reading it's like for instance think about any type

like for instance think about any type of addicting game right where you you

of addicting game right where you you get to this level and you say you want

get to this level and you say you want to you're going to stop but you just

to you're going to stop but you just want to keep going because you want to

want to keep going because you want to know what happens that's the way a dance

know what happens that's the way a dance of dragons

of dragons ends and so I want to compare this

ends and so I want to compare this because I think the show is a great

because I think the show is a great comparison to this is that if you think

comparison to this is that if you think about a dance of dragons and A Feast for

about a dance of dragons and A Feast for Crows I personally think A Feast for

Crows I personally think A Feast for Crows is better than a dance dragons

Crows is better than a dance dragons because I think that A Feast for Crows

because I think that A Feast for Crows is more is more consistently good in

is more is more consistently good in terms of chapter to chapter where dance

terms of chapter to chapter where dance dragons is a roller coaster you have

dragons is a roller coaster you have some chapters that are all the way up

some chapters that are all the way up here they're great chapters Staples of

here they're great chapters Staples of the entire series you have a lot of

the entire series you have a lot of chapters down here where you know

chapters down here where you know they're just not very good like I would

they're just not very good like I would say there's a number of chapters in this

say there's a number of chapters in this book that are the worst of the series

book that are the worst of the series like if I was going to do a top 10 worst

like if I was going to do a top 10 worst chapters of the series I think almost

chapters of the series I think almost half of them would be chapters from this

half of them would be chapters from this book and so it's almost like season 5

book and so it's almost like season 5 and season six where I think season six

and season six where I think season six ends on such a high note like a dance

ends on such a high note like a dance dragons does that people almost forget

dragons does that people almost forget some of the other things that were in

some of the other things that were in there like Tyrion and like Quenton and

there like Tyrion and like Quenton and some of the other times where the book's

some of the other times where the book's just not as good that's not to say that

just not as good that's not to say that season five and season six are even

season five and season six are even close to the quality of a dance dragons

close to the quality of a dance dragons Feast for Crows but it's kind of how I'm

Feast for Crows but it's kind of how I'm going to represent it because I think

going to represent it because I think they're they're kind of similar in a way

they're they're kind of similar in a way like I think season five in terms of

like I think season five in terms of quality from episode to episode is

quality from episode to episode is better than season 6 but yet season 6

better than season 6 but yet season 6 ends on a much higher note note than

ends on a much higher note note than season 5 does so most people will

season 5 does so most people will remember and think about season 6 being

remember and think about season 6 being better than season 5 because it just has

better than season 5 because it just has more standout moments you remember more

more standout moments you remember more things from dance than you're going to

things from dance than you're going to with Feast I think this is especially

with Feast I think this is especially true with casual uh readers people have

true with casual uh readers people have only read the books once or twice maybe

only read the books once or twice maybe P of crow is the one that usually people

P of crow is the one that usually people don't like as much on their first read

don't like as much on their first read or two and then as you reread it I think

or two and then as you reread it I think you appreciate it much more but that is

you appreciate it much more but that is kind of the end of my danc dragons at

kind of the end of my danc dragons at least my chapter by chapter breakdown we

least my chapter by chapter breakdown we will do a chapter rankings video uh POV

will do a chapter rankings video uh POV character uh ranking video and then a

character uh ranking video and then a conclusion video talking about the book

conclusion video talking about the book just in general and I'll have one last

just in general and I'll have one last video will which will be a culmination

video will which will be a culmination of every video I I've done in this

of every video I I've done in this series so it'll be basically a

series so it'll be basically a culmination of eight videos basically

culmination of eight videos basically put together which will probably be

put together which will probably be extremely long but I hope you guys all

extremely long but I hope you guys all enjoyed the series I think this was the

enjoyed the series I think this was the longest one of the series in terms of

longest one of the series in terms of the length but hope you guys did all

the length but hope you guys did all enjoy and again this was a a big project

enjoy and again this was a a big project for me I started this project March or

for me I started this project March or April of last year depending on when

April of last year depending on when this goes out beginning of 2024 March or

this goes out beginning of 2024 March or April and it took me almost a year to

April and it took me almost a year to get this one out and get this whole

get this one out and get this whole thing finished and I took a break in

thing finished and I took a break in between you know certain parts because

between you know certain parts because this book was harder to get through on a

this book was harder to get through on a in-depth level of a re a reread

in-depth level of a re a reread retrospective than Feast was for me and

retrospective than Feast was for me and I you know I want to see if you guys you

I you know I want to see if you guys you know at the end of this video do you

know at the end of this video do you guys want me to do a Storm of Swords

guys want me to do a Storm of Swords similar to this I won't do Game of

similar to this I won't do Game of Thrones or Clash because I'm already

Thrones or Clash because I'm already doing an in-depth reread chapter by

doing an in-depth reread chapter by chapter analysis of those but if you

chapter analysis of those but if you guys do want me to do A Storm of Swords

guys do want me to do A Storm of Swords I would be willing to consider it uh for

I would be willing to consider it uh for the next retrospective or even if you

the next retrospective or even if you guys want me to do instead Duncan egg or

guys want me to do instead Duncan egg or you guys want me to do Fire and Blood

you guys want me to do Fire and Blood let me know what you guys want to do if

let me know what you guys want to do if you guys want to see another

you guys want to see another retrospective series I know this series

retrospective series I know this series doesn't do all that well on the channel

doesn't do all that well on the channel but for those people that do enjoy it

but for those people that do enjoy it let me know what you guys want to see

let me know what you guys want to see and I'll see you guys all in the next

and I'll see you guys all in the next one bye guys

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YouTube Transcript:Does A Dance with Dragons have the best Finale of the Series? Retrospective part 5