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Tucker Carlson's Official Response to the Assassination of Charlie Kirk
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Hey, I'm Tucker Carlson. Last week,
within just really minutes after Charlie
Kirk was shot at that event in Utah, a
kind of proxy war broke out over his
memory. Who gets to own it? Who gets to
use it? While the rest of us were still
reeling in shock, trying to figure out
what happened. A ton of people appeared
online, not just in this country, to
tell you exactly what happened, exactly
what it meant, and exactly what we
should do next.
And you can see why with this level of
emotion, rage, and grief in the air,
it's pretty wise to leverage that much
energy. It's almost like nuclear power.
It can be used for good or bad. And a
lot of people wanted to use it. There's
no question about that. So they begin
telling you, Charlie died for this. He
lived for this, and he died for that. So
the crazier reaches of the left, it was
Charlie was a Nazi. And the lesson is
Nazis get killed. It makes sense. he was
a bad guy who got what he deserved and a
lot of them said that out out loud.
Certain parts of the right immediately
told you that actually this was about
something completely different. You
know, Charlie died for Israel. Many
began to say the prime minister of
Israel said that and so did a lot of
other people. Charlie was a defender of
Israel, which he was, by the way, and
therefore he died for that cause.
But none of these explanations, all
self-serving, are really satisfactory.
They don't capture who Charlie Kirk was.
And on some basic level, they're
dishonest. Charlie was not a Nazi. He
was not killed because he was a Nazi.
Yes, he was a defender of Israel. He
would didn't die for Israel. However,
why did he die? What was his life about?
What was the sin, the core sin that
Charlie Kirk committed against somebody
power that got him killed in the end?
And the answer is right in front of us.
Certainly those of us who knew him.
Charlie's life was defined by his
Christian faith. Not his spirituality,
but his belief in Jesus. His life as a
Christian. And everything in his life
flowed from those beliefs. Everything.
Everything he did, said, and believed
came from the fact that he was above all
a Christian. And that is and was and in
fact has always been deeply provocative
and offensive to the rest of the world.
And why is that? It's worth thinking
about it for just a second. Christianity
doesn't seem like the kind of religion
that would provoke people to anger and
violence. In fact, it seems just the
opposite. It's the world's most
profoundly nonviolent religion, maybe
the world's only truly nonviolent
religion. A religion based on a man who
Christians believe was also God, who as
he was being led away to be tortured to
death on madeup charges, scolded one of
his disciples for fighting back. This is
a religion committed to love above all
and to living in peace and harmony
truly. It's a universalist religion that
believes that every person has a shot at
heaven. It's not exclusionary at all.
And so you would think it would make
sense that if you're a government or if
you're in power that you'd want a lot of
Christians living in your country
because they're not going to cause
massive problems. Not a lot of sincere
Christians are fermenting insurrection
at any given moment. Pretty much none
most of the time. They're tidy. They get
married. They love their children. They
pay their taxes. They're commanded to
pay their taxes. So, why wouldn't you
want a nation full of Christians? Why
wouldn't you encourage this religious
belief, even if it wasn't yours? Why
would you hate it? Well, there are a
couple of reasons. There are a couple of
things about Christianity, and these
were evident throughout Charlie's public
life that are deeply provocative to the
people in power. And the first is the
insistence that Christianity comes with
inherently that you are not God. You are
not God and neither are your leaders.
God is God and all of us stand before
him in the end to be judged and all of
us will be found lacking. Christians
believe the only way to heaven is
through Jesus. That's the only way.
But all of us, whether we believe in
Jesus or not, are fallen. We are
sinners. We are less than we ought to
be. We are not gods. And neither are the
people who lead us. And this has a lot
of implications. The first being if
you're not God, you don't get to do
whatever you want. There are limits.
There are rules that you didn't write
that you have to abide by. That's not a
judgment. That's a statement of fact.
Some call it natural law. It's been the
basis of every functioning society since
the beginning of time. But the basis of
our society is the Christian
understanding of justice which flows
from that belief. You are not God. God
is. He writes the most basic rules. You
abide by them. Period. That's the basis
of our law. That's the basis of Western
law. And that is a threat, a challenge
to people who would ignore the limits on
their behavior. Very much including our
leaders and very much including the most
powerful people in our society whether
they're elected or not. Nobody wants to
be told you're not allowed to do
something. And Christianity inherently
tells people that. Doesn't judge them.
It just states it clearly. No, you do
not have the power to kill except
possibly in self-defense. But you can't
just go killing people. And you can't go
killing people because, and this is the
second thing about Christianity that
tends to set the teeth of the powerful
on edge, Christianity insists that every
human being is created by God. every
single one. And that means that every
human being has a soul, a distinct
unique soul created by God. It is once
again the only true universalist faith
there is. And the New Testament is the
story of this an underread collection of
books that is not the story of the Old
Testament is very much the story of the
New Testament. In the New Testament, all
people are God's chosen. Every single
one. And the story itself makes that
point. The founder of most Christian
churches in the early near east was a
former Pharisee, a Jew who was in charge
of killing Christians until he famously
met Jesus on the road to Damascus. His
name was Saul. He became Paul and he is
the most prolific author in the New
Testament and the basis of a lot of
Christian theology. And his life tells
the story. People can change no matter
what they look like, no matter what they
previously believed, no matter where
they're from, no matter what language
they speak, because they are created by
God. And every person, every single
person, whether you like them or their
relatives or the way they look or not,
has that chance because all were created
by God and all were loved by God. That
is the basis of Christianity. That's the
Christian story. And so a sincere
Christian proceeds with that belief.
There is no tribalism in Christianity.
There is no identity politics. It's the
opposite. You may prefer to be with
people who look like you. That's fine.
But God doesn't prefer to be with people
look like you. God prefers to be with
all people because he created all
people. He's the God of the universe,
not just of the people you like. And
that again has massive implications for
the way that sincere Christians live and
for the way that Charlie Kirk lived his
life. And the first is if other people
have souls, if they like you, were
created by God, then they have freedom
of conscience.
You can tell them what they ought to
think, but you can't make them. You can
tell them what they ought to say, but
you can't force them. Christianity does
not convert by the sword. It can't. It
requires free will. And it requires free
will because it respects the individual
conscience emanating from the distinct
soul of every human being. And that is
why in the west which is based on
Christianity, our civilization is a
Christian civilization. Tattered though
it currently is, collective punishment,
hurting people for the sins of their relatives
relatives
is unthinkable. It's a crime because
each person will stand alone as he was
made before God and every person is
equal before God fundamentally. Doesn't
mean each person is equal in his
ability. It doesn't mean each per person
is equal in the choices he makes. Of
course not. But it means that every
person is a human being with a divine
spark inside. That is the core
assumption of Christianity. And it was
obvious when you watch Charlie Kirk that
he believed that. Charlie's been
famously quoted for the last couple of
days saying he abhores anti-semitism.
That is absolutely right. And he did. He
said that in public and he said it very
often in private. He meant it too. But
he abhored racism and bigotry on the
basis of genetics of all kinds because
he was a Christian and he believed that
God created each person. Now why is this
a problem for temporal authorities? Why
is it a problem for the people in power?
Because once again, it circumscribes
what they can do. It sets a limit on
their powers. If God created each
person, including the infuriating,
annoying, disastrously wrong person I'm
talking to, then I can't force him to
repeat my creed. I'm not in charge of
his conscience. Only he is.
And that is a limit. So when Charlie
Kirk said, "I believe in free speech,"
he didn't simply believe in free speech
because it was in the Bill of Rights. He
understood that it was in the Bill of
Rights because it's in the New
Testament. He understood that's a right
that comes from God bestowed on all of
us at birth. And he felt his job, his
duty was not simply to protect it, but
to live it, to show people what that
looks like. And I just want to play of
the many clips we could play of Charlie
Kirk on college campus. He spent his
whole life
worn out most of the time. Uh, as an
older man, I often said to him, "How the
hell do you get on plane after plane
after plane?" But he felt an evangelical
duty, small evangelical duty to do it,
to get out there and talk to people.
Why? not simply to build a coalition or
get this or that person elected, but
because he believed as a Christian that
convincing people voluntarily with words
in the beginning was the word and the
word was with God and the word was God.
So the gospel of John begins, words are
the key to winning people's minds and
their souls.
And he really meant this. He wasn't just
repeating the words. He meant it. And it
was obvious in the way that he
interacted with people who disagree with
him and people who hated him. Here's one
clip that tells part of the story.
Would you want someone who is not
necessarily stable or ready to bring a
child into this world and provide that
child the life it deserves? Would you
want them to still bring that child into
the world?
Without a doubt, every every life has a
moral obligation to be able to live. If
I can't give that child the life it
deserves, why am I bringing it to
Got it. No, this is this will be my last
question. I I want you to think about
it. If a single mom has two 2-year-olds,
twins, and she wakes up one day and
says, "I can't do it anymore. I can't
give them the life they deserve."
But that's just not the circumstance.
Hold on. Should she be able to take out
a shotgun and kill both those kids? No.
No.
Of course not. Because you think that
would be objectionable. That's why I
think it's objectionable to eliminate
two babies that are 6 weeks old because
they're morally the same thing. One just
happens to be bigger. One just happens
to be older. One just happens to be
outside of the womb. They're both human
beings. And you have something in you
that says, "No way is it okay to kill a
2-year-old." That's called your soul talking.
talking.
You have something in you that tells you
the truth. You can call it instinct if
you like. Charlie Kirk referred to it as
the soul.
But both mean the same thing. You have
the spark of the divine, God's spark
inside you and it reacts. It hums. It
vibrates like a tuning fork. And you
know on a basic animal level like your
dog knows when something is wrong. You
can feel it. And the whole purpose of
modern society it seems sometime is to
get the rest of us to ignore what we
know. That vibration inside us that
tells us the truth always. It never lies
to us. Charlie did not ignore that. And
you'll notice that in the end he
appealed to it with that young woman. He
didn't scream, "You're a murderer" in
his face. Though he considered abortion
murder, which it is, he felt that
deeply. This wasn't a performance. He
wasn't, you know, another nonprofit
phony in DC, figning outrage about
something. He really believed that
taking innocent life was wrong. in the
womb or in crowded cities, anywhere. He
thought it was wrong because his faith
tells him it's wrong and because his
conscience confirms that belief. And so
does yours and so did hers. So did all
of ours. We know when something is
wrong. And the people above us shout at
us, "No, really, there's an explanation
for it. That's just your super ego
barking at you." No, you know in your
heart deep inside what every person has
known and that is the murder of
innocence is a crime. It's a moral
crime. And that girl knew it. And in the
end, that was Charlie's appeal. Listen
to that divine spark inside you. Listen
to your soul speak to you. Turn off the
music. Get off the drugs. push the
distractions, which it's hard to believe
aren't actually designed to crowd out
that humming inside us, and be still for
a moment and accept what you already
know, what you were born knowing. Listen
to that.
Only someone who appreciates the person
he's speaking to as an actual human
being could speak that way. Notice how
rare that is. It's been noted in the
past couple of days, Charlie was a free
speech champion. Absolutely, he was. And
I pray that that's his legacy. But I
also think it's important to explain why
that mattered to him. It was not
abstract in any sense. It was central.
It was the core. Because consider what
it means if you don't respect free
speech, which is another way of saying
free conscience. The right of other
people to make up their own minds about
the basic questions of what what is
right or wrong and to express their
views on those issues. If you don't
acknowledge the right of other people to
do that, and if you take steps to
prevent them from doing that, what are
you really saying? You're really saying,
"I don't think you have a soul. I think
you're a meat puppet I can control. I
think you're an animal, maybe suban
animal. You're a slave. You're a person
to whom I can dictate belief. I don't
acknowledge that you have the right to
come to your own conclusion is another
way of saying I don't acknowledge that
you're a human being." It's dark.
There's nothing darker than that. And
trust me, they believe it, the ones
who've thought about it, and there are a
lot of those. But for a lot of people,
particularly those who are just
repeating what they think they should
say or responding to the momentary rage
of the moment,
they just throw stuff out. And we've got
to hope that the attorney general of the
United States, Pam Bondi, is in that
category. She said this just yesterday. Watch.
Watch.
There's free speech and then there's
hate speech. And there is no place,
especially now, especially after what
happened to Charlie, in our society,
there's free speech and then there's
hate speech. This is the attorney
general of the United States, the chief
law enforcement officer of the United
States telling you that there is this
other category called hate speech. And
of course, the implication is that's a crime.
crime.
There's almost no sentence that Charlie
Kirk, and I'm I'm not running the risk
of appropriating his memory for my own
ends by saying this, it's provable.
There's no sentence that Charlie Kirk
would have objected to more than that.
And you've got to think the attorney
general didn't think it through and was
not attempting to desecrate the memory
of the person she was purporting to
celebrate. That she just threw that out
there. That she hadn't thought about it.
You hope that. You hope that Charlie
Kirk's death won't be used by a group we
now call bad actors to create a society
that was the opposite of the one he
worked to build.
You hope that you hope that a year from
now the turmoil we're seeing in the
aftermath of his murder won't be
leveraged to bring hate speech laws to
this country. And trust me, if it is, if
that does happen, there is never a more
justified moment for civil disobedience
than that ever. And there never will be.
Because if they can tell you what to
say, they're telling you what to think.
There is nothing they can't do to you
because they don't consider you human.
They don't believe you have a soul. A
human being with a soul, a free man, has
a right to say what he believes, not to
hurt other people, but to express his
views. And by the way, that thinking,
and not to pile on the attorney general,
who's a very nice person, but that
thinking that she just articulated on
camera there is exactly
what got us to a place where some huge
and horrifying percentage of young
people think it's okay to shoot people
you disagree with, to kill Nazis for
saying things they don't like. Why do
they believe that? How did we get here?
Is it the video games? Is it the SSRIs?
Yeah, probably. But what it really is is
12 and then 16 years of indoctrination
in our schools at the hands of people
who tell them that, who say exactly what
the attorney general just said. Well,
there's free speech, which of course we
all acknowledge is important. So, so
important. But then there's this thing
called hate speech.
Hate speech, of course, is any speech
that the people in power hate. But they
don't define it that way. They define it
as speech that hurts people. Speech that
is tantamount to violence. And we punish
violence, don't we? Of course we do.
They've been taught that every year of
their lives and so naturally most of
them believe it. When Charlie Kirk is
shot in the throat with a 306 on camera,
I doubt very many young Americans want
to see something like that or actually
applaud the death of a man, a father, a
husband. But they've been told for their
entire lives in schools exactly what Pam
Bondi just told them. Well, there's free
speech, but then there's also hate
speech. and woe to those who engage in
it because it's a crime. That's a lie.
And it's a lie that denies the humanity
of the people you're telling it about.
And so any attempt to impose hate speech
laws in this country, and trust me,
there are a lot of people who would like
them. There are a lot of people who'd
like to codify their own beliefs by
punishing those under the US code who
disagree with their beliefs. Any attempt
to do that is a denial of the humanity
of American citizens and cannot be
allowed under any circumstances. That's
got to be the red line because again,
when they can do that, what can't they
do? And this is something, by the way,
that Charlie thought about a lot and
that I had occasion to talk to him about
a lot. And I really don't want to make
any of this about me because it has
nothing to do with me. But I did have
reason to have these conversations with
Charlie a lot. many many times over the
past three or four months. And this
began um at an event that he held in
Florida in July, the TPUSA MFEST event,
Turning Point event. I often go I always
have the best time. I always see Charlie
ahead of time. We have a cup of coffee
in a hotel room, talk about what's going
on. In addition to being, of course, a
conservative advocate, he was also a
conservative organizer and a coalition
builder, and he was very involved in
politics in a way that I'm not. So, it
was interesting as hell, but it was also
a way to learn what young people are
thinking about, talking about, because
he was on college campuses all the time.
And what is the state of a couple of big
debates that are happening within the
Republican coalition, particularly
around foreign policy and Charlie's
views on foreign policy, which I think
are fairly wellnown now, a lot of people
lying about them, um, were evolving, uh,
but had really evolved, um, and who
knows why he reached the conclusions it
did. I I think his Christian faith
informed them mostly was also the
experience of talking to young people
and his views were very much like
theirs. He believed that the war on
terror had been in net loss for the
United States and it caused incalcable
damage not just economic and physical
damage but spiritual damage to the
United States. It was it was bad. We got
nothing out of it. We were only hurt and
he didn't want to see that again. And he
felt very strongly about that. And of
course I agreed. Uh and so before that
speech that I gave in July, we had a
conversation about this backstage uh
right before I went on and I was
fulminating and getting all red in the
face like I often do to my shame and I
was mad thinking about this and thinking
about uh the effort by the neocons in
the United States to draw us in to
another forever war with Iran. It's not
a defense of Iran, of course. It's
merely an acknowledgement that we've
done this before. Uh this happened in
Iraq which uh you know we we entered
into uh at the behest of those same
foreign policy strategists um and and it
didn't work. And so I was going on at
some length backstage with Charlie and I
said uh you know probably not going to
talk about that. I'm not going to
torture you. I know your donors hate
this when I say that. Um, and also
Epstein was in the news and it was clear
to me that, you know, Epstein's probably
not like a MSAD agent or something, but
Epstein clearly had contact with Israeli
intelligence and American intelligence
and French intelligence, but the only
one you're not allowed to talk about is
Israeli intelligence. But it's it seemed
true to me and I had done uh some work
on that and I knew a bunch of people
pretty close to that story. So So I
thought that and I said that to Charlie
and I said, "But I'm not going to say
that because I don't want to make your
donors mad. I know. It's just going to
be like an endless
flurry of texts telling you to stop or
you're going to lose a bunch of funding.
And he looked at me, I'll never forget
it. And said, "Go all the way. Do it. Go
all the way." I said, "Man, I you know,
a lot of things I can talk about. I
don't need to talk about that." And he
said, "Do it." So, I did it. By the way,
I think that that conversation hit a mic
on and so did I. Probably exists
somewhere on somebody's server. But
that's I think a faithful rendition of
what he said. Um, and by the way, I'm
not trying to blame him for my remarks.
You can agree or disagree with those
remarks, but I I'm saying this only
because I was uh shocked and sickened by
the reaction of the ghoulish and really
repulsive reaction of the prime minister
of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, to
Charlie's death. basically made it all
about him and all about his country
immediately trying to
take the energy, the sadness, the grief
that people felt over Charlie's murder
and redirect it towards support for
whatever project he's involved in. And
by the way, Benjamin Netanyahu is not
the same as the nation of Israel at all.
Uh BB is despised by many people uh in
Israel. And if you know people who live
there, you know that that's true. Um
there are huge divisions within the
Israeli government. I mean, there are
certain parts of the the intel world uh
in Israel that do not support some
things that Benjamin Netanyahu has done
recently. So, it's not the same as
attacking Israel, attacking BB. But I I
don't think I've ever seen anything
lower than his attempt to hijack
Charlie's memory and use it for his own
political ends, particularly because
what he said was completely untrue.
Charlie didn't hate Jews. He loved Jews.
He had tons of friends who were Jews. He
loved the state of Israel. He loved
going there. He did not like BB
Netanyahu. And he said that to me many
times and he said it to people around
him many times. He felt that BB
Netanyahu was a very destructive force.
He was appalled by what was happening in Gaza.
Gaza.
He was above all resentful that he
believed Netanyahu was using the United
States to prosecute his wars for the
benefit of his country and that it was
shameful and embarrassing and bad for
the United States. And he resented it.
Didn't hate Netanyahu. He wasn't out
there with a placard saying that, but he
certainly expressed that to me and a lot
of other people. And there's no question
that BB's defenders uh on the internet
will call me a liar or a kook. Uh but
that's a fact. And enough text messages
exist that I think it can probably be
verified in pretty short order. Not that
it needs to be because that is true. Um
shortly after that speech, there was a
very intense attack on Charlie and to
some extent on me. Not that I really
noticed, but on him. I have no donors.
he had $100 million worth of donors and
so because he was involved in a
different project from just yapping on
the internet which is what I do for a
living. Um he was dependent to a great
extent on his donors of course it's a
nonprofit and they went after him and
tormented him. Not all of course many
were supportive but uh the ones who were
offended by my speech and there was a a
small very intense group who were
tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he
died. two days before he died, he lost a
$2 million dollar donation because he
had publicly pledged to bring me to the
next Turning Point conference in
December. And he told me over the past
couple of months he was losing a lot of
donations over that pledge. They put out
a flyer basically saying that I was
going to be at this event giving a
speech. And so he would text me and say,
"Man, I'm really taking a lot of heat
for this and people are really mad." The
American Jewish Committee called in a
statement Charlie Kirk an anti-semite
and quote dangerous. Charlie Kirk an
anti-semite. Yeah. Um he was not an
anti-semite. He was the opposite and he
was not dangerous. He was a great lover
of people and a purveyor of peace. He
was the opposite and he was very stung
by that. Those of us who've been called
names for a long time are a little bit
harder to offend. Charlie was deeply
offended by that and expressed some of
those feelings on Megan Kelly show and
in other places, but that did not let
up. The reason I'm telling the story is
because he called me and then came to
see me at my house about this topic and
uh I said to him every single time,
look, it's, you know, I've got my own
way to communicate my views. This is
actually not the most important issue to
me. There lots of things I can talk
about. I don't need to come to turning
point. I can take a year off, no
problem. I hated seeing how much he was
suffering, the hassle he was getting
from people. Uh, and I was being
attacked too, by the way. It was a huge
effort. Uh, I wasn't fully aware of it
actually because I don't go online that
much, but there was a huge effort by
people, some of whom I know and have
helped and like Seth Dylan of the
Babylon B for example, someone who had
his own problems with free speech who
was famously cancelled. Um, and I I like
Seth Dylan. I had him on a couple of
times. I had dinner with him to show
support. Seth Dylan was out there
demanding that Charlie Kirk take me off
the roster, pull me off stage because I
had said things that BB didn't like or
that he didn't like or whatever.
Shocking that someone whose whole
persona is wrapped up in the idea that
we all get to speak and if you don't
like it, make a more compelling case.
that that person and many others like
him were advocating for me getting
pulled off the stage because they don't
like what I'm saying.
This is a trend and one that we should
be really concerned about. It's not just
about Israel, by the way, at all. The
trend is really simple. People with
power don't want to hear disagreement.
They don't want to be challenged ever.
That's why we have free speech to
acknowledge that even those of us or
people with less power still have a
right to talk because they're human
beings. You don't own them. So time
after time, Charlie would call me or
come to see me and let me know, wow, or
show me text messages. These people are
really mad that you're speaking. And I
would always have the same thought, like
I feel pretty moderate, actually. I've
never been an Israel hater. Obviously,
I'm not an anti-semite. I just don't
want more wars. and I don't want a
foreign country humiliating my country
and telling us what our laws have to be.
I mean, this seems like pretty basic
America first stuff. And he would say,
"I totally agree with you, but they want
you off the stage." And I would always
say, "No problem." And he would say,
"No, it's important.
It's a matter of principle. I want you
By the way, I'm not accusing anyone of
being involved in that murder. I'm not
trying to mutter darkly or imply
anything. We don't there's a lot we
don't know about who murdered Charlie
and why. But I I don't know and I'm not
going to pretend that I do. But I think
it's important to say that out loud
because it's a fact and there are many
liars out there trying BB Netanyahu
number one among them shamefully
who are trying to distort the truth. A
truth that I know and can prove. And the
last thing I'll say about Charlie is
that his views were changing on topics
that had nothing to do with foreign
policy. You know, the famous kind of red
line, third rail, can't talk about it.
But it's possible that the subject that
makes people even matter in Washington,
New York, and LA having non-conventional
foreign policy views is having
non-conventional economic views. Man,
they really don't like that at all. And
Charlie's views on economics and on the
way that wealth is distributed in the
United States were changing fast. Really
changing fast and and hardening. Not
because he was a socialist. Hardly. He
was about as much of a socialist as I
am. Not at all. Um but because he lived
here and he spent a lot of time with
young people and he couldn't help but
notice because he was an observant and
honest person that they're not thriving
at all and that the chances they'll have
lives comparable to the ones they had
growing up are very small.
Most of them won't have houses. They
won't own anything. They'll be in debt.
And for that reason, they won't get
married or have children. And so, the
people who are born here won't continue
their legacy in the United States. It's
it's the end of our civilization.
And the root of a lot of this is
spiritual, but the root is also economic.
economic.
And it raises a question, a basic
question of fairness. And I tried to
address this in the speech that I gave
for Charlie in July. I don't think I did
a very good job. and it was
misinterpreted, but I invoked Bill Aman.
And the point I was making had nothing
to do with Bill Aman being a criminal or
even being an Epstein
friend. I mean, I I don't really know
anything about that. I don't know much
about I'm not accusing Bill Aman of a
crime. And I'm not accusing him of, you
know, being a sex creep or a massage
agent or anything like that. I don't
think that I don't know that for sure.
And I wasn't trying to say it. What I
was trying to say is that Bill Aman is
not creative, not particularly intelligent.
intelligent.
Bill Aman is worth $7 billion. So you
have to ask like how. And it seems to me
that Bill Aman is rich for the same
reasons that a lot of other people I
know are rich because he's hyperaggressive
hyperaggressive
and he's wellconed.
And my only point was if you live in a
society that awards the spoils to people
on the basis of those two qualities like
the most aggressive, the best connected
people get the richest, that's a
dysfunctional society.
There should be a reward for creativity
and decency and hard work,
steadfastness, following the rules. Like
you should have to add to the sum total
of your society. You'd think it's not an
argument against the free market. It's
an argument against whatever we're
living through right now. This is really
dark and ugly. And if people like Bill
Aman are getting the richest, what has
Bill Aman done? Shorted the market or
something? Talk down herbal life. I
mean, I'm not even saying that should be
illegal. All I'm saying is if that's one
of the richest guys in your society,
you've got a very sick society. I don't
think Billman's like a drooling idiot or
anything, but like when was the last
time you heard Bill Aman say something
constructive or creative? Like never.
So, it's just bad. And it's not just
about Bill Aman, of course. I mean, he's
just a minor player in the life of the
world, but he's a kind of metaphor for
how off track we've gone. And that
doesn't seem like a socialist point.
Once again, I'm hardly a socialist and
neither was Charlie Kirk. That seems
like a Christian point. Fairness is at
the root of the Christian story. People
will be judged not by who their parents
were or by how they look, but on their
hearts, on themselves, on choices that
they made. That's fair. So again,
fairness is essential to the gospel and
it's essential to any working society.
In a fair society or a society that its
citizens believe is fair, people will
comply voluntarily with the rules
because they don't think the game is
rigged. But in a society in which Bill
Aman, Bill Aman
makes seven billion dollars and like the
smartest, hardest working, most
interesting, creative young people, you
know, can never own a home in a society
like that, you're going to get Mum
Donnie as mayor, you're going to get a
lot of bad things cuz people will opt
out of the society because they know
it's not fair. It's rigged. That's the
only point I was trying to make. And
Charlie, not surprisingly, made it much
more eloquently, I thought, in an
amazing interview, the last interview I
did with him, uh, late July of this
year. Here's part of it.
We know how to create wealth, but we
don't know how to create it for the
generation that needs it most. If you
look at the economic conditions, you
would think the other conditions
surrounding it are like abject poverty.
These are the problems that like third
world nations have.
I know
our young people can't afford stuff and
they have to finance their basic
necessities. And yet we're the
wealthiest nation in the history of the
world on the planet. We have a $ 37
trillion GDP. We have the greatest
companies and we have all this stuff to
brag about. And yet all of our problems
would beg the question and it's like
this inherent contradiction. We're super
wealthy on one side, like a powerhouse
juggernaut, and we are like an economic
nightmare on the other side. How did
that happen?
So, if there is such a thing as the left
in the United States, if it still
exists, you would think a message like
that would at least get a hearing, a
respectful hearing.
Like, hey, what about wages? What about
the ability of young people to just buy
a little house with a little yawn and
sub lawn in some subdivision? Like, what
isn't that kind of what they say? They
want empower, you know, the most
vulnerable, the people who try hard and
play by the rules.
They called him a Nazi. They didn't care
that Charlie Kirk in real life spent his
trying time trying to stop war
trying to, you know, figure out how
young people could buy a little house somewhere.
somewhere.
Aren't those like left-wing goals?
No, they didn't care at all. And in
fact, they hated that because they're
for war, because they're for death.
because they're for the inequality he described
described
because it leads to a volatile society
that empowers them. Of course, they're
not a check on power, the professional
left, the trans community.
They're the shock troops of power.
Charlie Kirk was a check on power.
Charlie Kirk, inspired by his Christian
faith, stood up to people
fearlessly to say what he thought was true.
true.
And for that I will always love and
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