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This content highlights the critical need for ASEAN to integrate energy development (SDG7) and climate action (SDG13) to achieve a sustainable, secure, and low-carbon energy future, emphasizing that these goals are interdependent and require a holistic approach.

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My name is Indira and I will be your

master of ceremony for today's proceedings.

proceedings.

As ASEAN stands at a crucial momentum in

its energy and climate journey as one of

the fastest growing economic region in

the world, the demand for energy

continues rise with fossil fuels still

accounting for a large share of energy

mix. This makes the energy sector both a

driver of economic growth and a major

source of greenhouse gas emissions

to achieve a sustainable, secure and

lowcarbon energy future. Linking the

SDGs or sustainable development goals is

important. Therefore, we try to link the

SDG number seven affordable and clean

energy and also number 13 about climate

action as our essential action to

connect the nexus between the energy and

climate sector.

Climate policies, mitigation efforts,

and adaptation strategies can serve as

powerful enablers for clean energy

technologies, green finance, and adjust

In recognition of this interlinkage,

ACET or ASEAN climate change and energy

project has developed a study titled

advancing green energy in ASEAN

leveraging the interlinkage between SDG7

and 13 which will be officially launched

today. The study highlights ASEAN's

progress toward SDG7 and explores how

stronger climate action under the SDG-13

could be achieved and deployed through

policy integration, financing, and

Following the ceremonial launch, we will

proceed with a presentation and panel

discussion that will further explore the

content and also the key highlights of

the study.

And ladies and gentlemen, to officially

commence today's session, we will now

hear uh the opening remarks on behalf of

Dat Razip Dawood, the executive director

of the Asan Center for Energy, which

will be delivered on his behalf by Dr.

Dr. Zulfikiar Yuridi the manager of

energy modeling and policy planning

department in ACE. So Dr. Zulfikar the

>> Yeah. Uh as introduced my name is

Zulfiar and I'm here on behalf of our

executive director Dr. Razib Dawud and I

will be reading his uh welcoming

remarks. Good morning uh distinguished

delegates, esteemed speakers,

colleagues, ladies and gentlemen. It is

my great pleasure on behalf of Dat Razib

Dawud, executive director of the Assean

Center for Energy to welcome you all to

this session on advancing clean energy

in Assean leveraging the interlinkages

between SDG7 and SDG-13.

Allow me first to convey our warm

greetings to Mr. Nut Granley, deputy

head of mission of the Royal Norwegian

Embassy in Koala Lumpur, whose presence

today reflects the continued partnership

between the ASEAN and Norway in

advancing clean energy and climate collaboration.

collaboration.

I would also like to acknowledge our

distinguished panelists, Professor Leong

Yuan Yung, Dr. Christopher Len, and Miss Yajinha.

Yajinha.

Thank you for joining us and for sharing

your perspective with us today.

Over the past decade, ASEAN has come a

long way in expanding energy access,

improving efficiency, and introducing

more renewables into our system. Yet, we

know this journey is far from over.

The 8 asen energy outlook or the AO8

reminds us why.

It projects that under its baseline

scenario, the region's final energy

demand could rise to 2.6 times the 2022

level by 2050.

That figure is not just a number. It is

a call to action. It tells us that the

way we plan, invest, and cooperate must

evolve faster than ever before.

To meet this challenge, we cannot view

energy and climate separately.

Achieving SDG7 affordable and clean

energy is inseparable from advancing

SDG-13 climate action.

Climate policies, adaptation efforts,

and mitigation strategies are what make

cleaner technologies viable. They open

doors for green finance, innovation, and

resilient energy infrastructure across

our region.

Today's session also marks the launch of

the report advancing clean energy in ASEAN

ASEAN

developed under the ASEAN climate change

and energy project or accept. This study

examines how stronger climate action can

accelerate access to affordable,

reliable and sustainable energy for all.

It shows that when policy, data, and

cross- sector cooperation come together,

we can move from ambition to implementation.

implementation.

We sincerely thank the government of

Norway through the Norwegian Assean

regional integration program for their

support in advancing this agenda. Their

partnership continues to strengthen

ASEAN's collective capacity to respond

to the dual priorities of energy

security and decarbonization.

Of course, I also would like to extend

my appreciation to the ACEPU team whose

hard work and commitment made this study

and today's session possible.

And before we proceed, I am pleased to

share an important milestone.

The ASEAN plan of action for energy

cooperation or APA 2026 2030 was

officially endorsed yesterday during the

ASEAN ministers on energy meeting or AM.

This new API represents ASEAN's

collective direction for the next five

years. One that accelerates the

carbonization while ensuring that the

transition remains just inclusive and

people centered.

We will have a dedicated presentation

and discussion on the new API later

today at 2:30 p.m. in this uh 25th IBF

and I warmly invite everyone to join

that session as we share more about its

priorities and implementation pathways.

I hope today's discussion will inspire

new ideas and partnership that link

energy and climate priorities, align

policy and finance and strengthen

regional collaboration.

Together, let us continue building a

secure, sustainable and inclusive Assean

energy future. Thank you very much and I

wish everyone a productive and engaging

discussion ahead.

>> Thank you Dr. Sulfikar for [music]

delivering the opening remarks on behalf

of Dto Rajiv Dawood. Uh the next it is

my great pleasure [music] to invite Mr.

Kut Granley, deputy head of mission of

Royal Norwegian Embassy in Kola Lumpur

to deliver his remarks. Mr. [music] Gut,

Distinguished guests and speakers, good morning.

morning.

Uh thank you for the invitation and the

warm welcome.

And allow me to u start by extending my

warm greetings to partners and

colleagues from the Assean Center for Energy

Energy

to uh partners and colleagues also from

Isaas Yosf is Institute and from the UN

It is a true pleasure to be here today.

The ASEAN business energy forum has long

been a flagship platform for dialogue

and partnership among Asan stakeholders

to advance the region's collective

energy ambition and Norway is very proud

to be a part of this effort.

Today's session and the launch of a new

report represents a milestone.

The report being launched offers timely

insights into how SDG 7 on affordable

and clean energy and SDG13 on climate

action can strengthen one another.

It underscores

that aligning climate action with energy

access not only accelerates

decarbonization but also promotes

innovation, creates new jobs and

enhances resilience.

Norway is delighted to have supported

this important work through the accept

project, a partnership between Asan

Center for Energy and the Norwegian

Institute for International Affairs.

Accept has also contributed to

developing the carbon neutrality

scenario in the eighth ASAN energy outlook

outlook

offering a regional part pathway to

achieve net zero emissions by 2050

and it has contributed to shaping the

theme of the ASEAN plan of energy

cooperation 2076 to 2030 placing a just

and inclusive energy transition at the

heart of ASEAN's next 5year energy blueprint.

blueprint.

These are concrete and lasting

contributions to ASAN's policy architecture.

We recognize that every region uh

region's pathway is unique. That is why

partnership uh like accept is are so important.

important.

It allows us to learn from one another,

to combine global knowledge with

regional realities,

and to ensure that policies and

investments reflect the diverse need of

ASEAN member states.

Norway greatly value it role its role as

a sean sectoral dialogue partner and we

see asan as a key actor in advancing

Norway is deeply committed to ambitious

climate action as reflected in our

national determined contribution under

the Paris agreement. We aim to reduce

greenhouse gas emissions by 20 by 55 at

least 55% by 2030 compared to the 1990

levels and to achieve climate neutrality

by 2050.

Our priorities for the green transition

focus on accelerating deployment of

renewable energy, advancing

electrification, and investing in

innovation, innovative solutions such as

carbon capture and storage.

These um these priorities are integral

to our efforts to decarbonize key

sectors and support a sustainable

inclusive energy future.

Our longstanding collaboration with many

Asan countries began with the basis of

being an oil and gas nation, a producing

oil and gas producing country, laying

the foundation for trust and shared expertise.

expertise.

Today, these partnerships are centered

around renewables and a broader green shift.

shift.

Norway can share expertise and knowhow

withan from decades of experience in

hydropower development.

Being a global frontr runner in carbon

capture and storage.

We aim to support transition toward a

lowcarbon economy while fostering

innovation and sustainable growth for all.

all.

Norway stands ready to continue this

partnership with ASEAN building on the

strong foundation already established.

Together we can ensure that ASEAN's

energy transition is not only fast and

sustainable but also inclusive for all.

Let me conclude by congratulating the

ASEAN Center for Energy for its

leadership and hard work in delivering

this publication

and by reaffirming Norway's continued

commitment to supporting ASEAN's clean energy

energy

and climate goals.

May you all have fruitful discussions onwards.

onwards.

Thank you Mr. Kud for your kind remarks.

[music] Uh may I kindly request you to

be remain uh on the stage as we now

proceed to the symbolic launching of the

report. I would also like to invite Dr.

Zulfikiar and Miss Aldila [music]

project manager of the Asan climate

change and energy project to join us on

stage for a group photo [music] to mark

Now I [music] would like to also invite

our panelists uh to join us for the

group photo. Uh Dr. Christopher Len,

Miss Yain [music] Ha, and Professor Yuan

Yung Leon, please come to the stage to

I will also invite the accept [music]

team Mr. Muhammad Risky Krishnawan and

Mr. Muhammad Ilhham Rizaldi to join the

Okay, thank you everyone. Uh you may go

Okay. Uh before we move to the

discussion, we will first hear a

presentations about the study itself. It

is my pleasure to invite Mr. Muhammad

Risky Krasnawan, senior research analyst

of accept 2 at ACE to deliver his

presentations. Mr. Risky, the floor is yours.

Thank you so much. Indira. So good

morning uh ladies and gentlemen. My name

is Muhamad Kiknawan. So I'm the senior

uh officer uh from modeling and policy

planning which also senior research

analyst from uh accept project. So today

I I I would like to uh to take you all

of you to the journey through Assean

clean energy transition and how the interlinkage

interlinkage

yes between the SDG7 and also SDG-13

that can shape more sustainable uh

inclusive future for our region. This

insights is coming from uh the analysis

done by ASEAN climate change and energy

project teams uh which uh this is the

first initiative in ASEAN to truly

connect energy and also climate uh

ACEP is not just another uh regional

project. It's a bridge between data and

policy, between energy and climate, and

most importantly, between ambition and action.

action.

Through knowledge exchange, capacity

building, and promoting inclusivity, it

helps asan prepared for a just and

I'm going to the uh the analysis and

also the study.

So uh ASEAN has made uh remarkable

progress electrification nearly

universal at 907 uh.6%.

uh.6%.

We have expanded renewables and reduced

energy intensity.

But when we look closer,

there are still uh

uh a mixed picture in terms of uh one of

them is progressing but also persisting

gaps that we encounter uh

Electricity access is uh almost

universal. Yet the clean cooking tells

another story.

So over

126 million people in Asen still lack

access to modern cooking uh solutions.

Energy access isn't just about

electricity. It's about dignity, health,

and equity. And many rural communities

In this slide you can see that the re

renewables are rising especially uh in

power generation. You can see that uh

this is the total uh uh renewable energy

share in total final energy consumption.

This is another improvement that we have

at uh regional level. So one of the asen

squer uh achievement is the energy

efficiency. We we have reduced energy

intensity by nearly 25%. It's not as

suffisible as solar panels and turbines

uh but also one of the most powerful

tools of for climate actions. Saving

energy is often uh cheaper than

However,

those ambitions needs financing. We

received around 1 billion uh in 2023 for

uh clean energy finance

but still far below the needed for a

region uh of our size.

Renewable capacity has surged and it

will take far more investment in the

future and the regional mechanism to

And here is the crossroads that we face.

Rural communities uh remain underserved

while coal dependent is still growing

almost doubling in the capacity over a

decade. This shows our dilemma. How do

we expand energy access without locking

In this slide you can see that energy

transition is not only about the

technology but it's about the people. As

income rise so do emissions but

countries with better human development

also shows stronger renewable energy

adoption. So the question becomes how do

we ensure a transition that uplifts

When we are doing the cross map of uh

SDG7 also 13 uh an important message

emerged. We are progressing in energy

but climate action is stagnating. We're

moving but not enough and not yet in synchronized

synchronized

to progress. These two agenda must re

must reinforce each other not run in parallel.

And the next slide is actually talking

about the NDC commitment between

ambition and also implementations. All

ASE and member states have strengthened

their NDCS expanding targets and also

policies. The ambition is there but the

implementation remain the real test

especially without adequate adequate uh

climate finance and also institutional support.

In this slide you can see that there is

a rise of green finance. There is

encouraging momentum. ASEAN is

developing taxonomies expanding green

bonds from under 1 billion to almost 13

billions uh USD in just a few years. The

region is sending a clear message to

investor. We are ready but now we need

to we need the scale and also alignment.

And then we're talking about all of the

the the problems that uh I just

mentioned here is the theory of change

of this study. So the first one we try

to connect it all between the policy,

finance and also inclusion. This TOC

actually helps us to link the short-term

inputs to long-term transformation. It's

a road map for a just transition

ensuring no country, no community is

left behind.

This is the findings that we uh have. So

you can see that uh SDG7 and also 13 are

actually interdependent

and then the second we have the progress

and then we can see the progress the

progress is visible but it's still

uneven between one to another countries

and then the third one is actually the

climate action is advancing quite

slowly. uh and but uh we we we we

understand that finance has set

boundaries what we can achieve and then

what needs to be achieved institutions

and data uh strongly influence the

result. So this is the findings that we

encounter when we do the analysis and

then based on these findings we also

encounter any opportunities arise uh

after we we we do the the analysis. The

first one is about the energy access

that can be framed as a climate

solution. The second one, the regional

corporations provides a platform like

the one that we have under SNG uh

blueprint API post 2026.

The third one is about the people

inclusivity strengthen uh the transition

because it's it's bringing the sense of

belonging of of of people to the

community as well. Fourth one, financial

innovation is opening new pathways. We

need more financing mechanism. The money

is there but we need more financing

mechanism that many people can can tap

in uh to to to increase their access to

electricity. Last but not least together

this opportunities highlights the tools

of ASEAN to that can use uh to move forward.

forward.

This is uh the the report that we just

published. So I think uh in closing uh

the convergence of SDG7 and also 13 is

not a challenge. It's an opportunity for

us all of us in this room. The decision

we make today will will define Asan's

role in the global energy transition. If

we embrace a cooperation, innovation and

also inclusivity, Asan can become the

global leader in sustainable

development. So uh my name is Mohammed

Kasnawan. Uh thank you so much for for

All right, thank you Mr. Risky for

[music] your insightful presentations

about the key highlights of the report

itself. Now we move to highlights of

today's session, our panel discussion

which will explore more how ASEAN can

harness climate action to accelerate

clean energy access and advance a just

and inclusive energy transition. To lead

this discussion, it is my pleasure to

hand over the floor to our moderator,

Mr. Muhammad Ilam Rizaldi, research anal

of accept at ACE. So, Mr. Please, the

floor and time is yours.

Okay. Uh, thank you very much, MC. Uh

salam alaikum and good morning to all

the panelists and distinguished guests

today. Very happy to be here at Koala

Lumpur and I hope everyone have a great

time so far. So uh my name is Ilham. I'm

a research analyst from the Azan climate

change and energy project and it's a

privilege for me uh to be able to

moderate this session. So uh just want

to paint the picture for the discussions

uh today. So previously uh we have

presentation from my colleague that have

presented the findings and also the

progress on SDG7s

and then uh we also touched upon how the

potential of uh interconnecting energy

policy planning and also the climate

action in SG13 could have the potential

uh for us to increase our efforts to

energy transition and sustainable energy

future. But that is giving us the

overview. But certainly it all depends

on the on the implementations. So I

think that is where uh this our

discussion wants to see. So we wanted to

explore more what is happening on the

ground uh to explore what are the

strategies that can be implemented uh in

in the ground and also hearing from the

expert perspectives on what are the

actions that can be needed that are

needed to turn this ambitions into

reality. So uh today fortunately I'm

joined by an excellent group of expert

panelists representing different

perspectives and I would like to invite

them one by one. So the first one would

like to invite Miss Yinha. Uh she is the

economic affair officer from the energy

division at the economic and social

commission for Asian the Pacific or in

short escap. So please give a round of

Thank you. So uh for the second uh

panelist here, I would like to invite

Dr. Christopher Len. He is the acting

coordinator of the climate change in

Southeast Asia program at the ICU

Institute. Please give round of applause.

applause.

Thank you.

And the third one I would like to invite

Professor Leong Hyun. She is the

director of sustainability studies at

the UN sustainable development solution

network or [music] in short it's SDSN.

Thank you very much Dr. Young. Please

have a seat. And last but not least I

would like to invite again my colleague

Mr. Muhammad Riskey Nawan senior

research analyst of the AAN center for

energy. Please give a round of applause

Okay, I think everything said so. Please

allow me to sit. So thank you everyone

uh for having being us with us today and

it's really privilege uh to have such

so maybe before we started our uh

discussions here, let's take a step back

here. Just want to also it will be a

great uh chance for the moderate for the

panelists to uh introduce one each

myself by also answering my questions.

So, I think we've seen that the AEAN has

made progress on energy access and clean

energy that has risky has been

presented. But we also know that linking

energy and climate action is complex

especially as countries continues to

balance economic growth resilience

inclusivity. So maybe my first question

to all the panelists is so from your

perspective and your experience how do

you see Azan's progress so far in

bringing together energy development and

climate action? I think we can start

maybe first from Miss Yen and then going

to continue to Mr. Risky. Thank you.

Um thank you very much for inviting me

to this very um auspicious uh event and

congratulations to ACE for launching

such an excellent report. Um as

introduced I'm um with the um economic

and social commission for Asia and the

Pacific ESCAP which is headquartered in

um Bangkok, Thailand. Um so since um

I've joined the energy division in ESCAP

um two years ago, I've noticed an

remarkable um momentum building um

within the ASEAN region um towards um

increasing cooperation

um that is underpinned by this need to

decarbonize and accelerate um energy

transition. Um, so I I I am very um

encouraged by all of the work that has

been going on um that's surrounded um

and and led by the ASEAN power grid for

example and also the Apayak um

milestones. Um this last the last

previous PAK um set a regional target

for renewable integration at 23% I

understand um and unfortunately that

target was not met um due to a variety

of reasons um however um this next phase

of PAK um went further and um is going

to target 30% % of renewable

integration. Um and that ambition I

think and the shared vision among the

ASEAN countries is a very important um

kind of a

uh step and and um and direct in the

right direction because now um we are

saying um the NDC's have to be more

ambitious um to realize the Paris

agreement goals and the that regional

target translated into um ambitious

national goals um will be kind of the

drive um that would enable uh faster uh

decarbonation decarbonization and energy

transition and that is the linkage um

between the SG7 and 13 um where it will

both of those goals will come together

and um accelerate um the energy

transition towards u meeting the the

Paris agreement goals and also ensuring

um sustainable future. Um so yeah, I'll

>> Uh good morning everyone. Uh I'm uh

Christopher Len. I'm from the ISIS

Fishark Institute. I'm currently uh

acting coordinator for the climate

change in Southeast Asia program. And

for those of you who are not aware, we

actually publish an annual survey called

the state of Southeast uh uh Southeast

Asia climate outlook. So this is a

survey where we examine the public

attitudes across all 10 ASEAN countries

towards uh climate change,

energy transition and food security. So

uh I would invite everybody to take a

look at our report if you have the time

because it's uh quite a lot of

interesting data there because we are

looking at the general perceptions from

the general population across all 10

ASEAN countries and I think the the

findings from our study sends an

important message a datadriven

message to the politicians about the

need for more action and the willingness

of the general general population to

be part of that process, right?

Including the willingness to pay. So

coming back to your question, uh linking

SDG7 and SDG13,

I think how I would put it is that uh

energy drives climate progress. Um

energy is the engine, climate change is

the compass, right? Assean has made

important strides in connecting energy

developments with climate action. But as

what we have seen in the report that's

just been released, there's a lot more

to be done. The journey is only the

beginning. We have electrification rates

that's near universal coverage, but the

deployment of renewable energy is just

15%. So I think we need to and we can do

better. And the second thing is that um

when ASEAN members make energy plans uh

the the what we see now is that there's

that socialization that has been taking

place and whenever they talk about

energy they are linking it with

reference to their climate pledges right

so nearly all their energy plans are

sort of uh with the nationally

determined contributions

uh in mind and with the aim of setting a

net zero target. But of course there are

still gaps we see you know especially in

terms of the clean cooking solutions 120

million people that's a lot of people a

lot more we can do and then we also see

quite uh uneven transition between the

countries and basically I think my main

point is that the more we align uh clean

energy deployment with climate

resilience the faster we drive down

emissions and then at the same time we

can lift the communities.

>> Thank you very much. Yeah, please Dr.

Profit. Yeah,

>> thank you.

Good morning ladies and gentlemen. Uh

thank you very much for inviting me to

uh be part of this joyous event uh of

the launch of your important report. My

name is Leong Yuan Yung and I'm from the

UN sustainable development solutions

networks, the Asia headquarters that is

hosted at Sunway University and uh I'm

co-leading um a project called the ASEAN

green future which looks at the

decarbonization of technical systems and

the recarbonization of ecosystems in

Southeast Asia.

So from my perspective, ASEAN's progress

in combining energy development with

climate action is best described as

aspirational and yet uneven. I see that

the region has developed a robust

frameworks for doing this but its implementation

implementation

depends on the uh national priorities as

well as political will.

Now on the aspirational front we see a

clear commitment at the regional level

and we can see that in the most uh

recently uh launched the AP pack um

number three 2026 to 2030 that aims for

30% of RE share in total primary energy

supply 45% of RE power generation

capacity and a 40% reduction in um

emission um in energy intensity

um by 2030 compared to the two 2005

levels. So these regionwide targets they

demonstrate a collective strategic will

to actually combine energy development

and climate action.

However, where is the uneven part? This

the difficulty lies in implementation

and we see that there are countries that

are still struggling with its internal

conflicts like an example would be

Myanmar with its suspended Mitsun dam

where we see the social de economic

development imperatives clashing with

the desire to protect the environment

and that has led to an an energy

paralysis for this country.

However, we also see uh some more

promising models emerging. For example,

in Laos here, the focus on transmission

is shifting from um a domestic challenge

to regional strength. For example, the

EDLT joint venture that was formed in

2020 is working to modernize the the

grid of the entire country and they have

a goal of expanding export capacity to

10,000 megawatt for ASEAN member states.

Now this is crucial because it shows a

country leveraging on its renewable

energy resources while simultaneously

strengthening its uh it's uh its greed

into a regional grid which is a piece of

important climate resilience infrastructure.

infrastructure.

>> Okay, I think uh all the answers is

already covered. So I'm just bringing

the perspective from from accept project

because I think uh the reason that the

accept project is come up is actually we

need to to deal with this uh we need to

break the silos between energy sector

and also climate sector. So we are

struggling in the beginning on how we

try to incorporate ideas of uh including

the the aspect of energy transition the

carbonization and those kind of things

in in in the blueprint. So I think uh it

started by increasing the capacity

building of the the the policy makers

and also the the one who decide what

kind of regulation that it needs to be

uh included. So I think uh for my point

of view I think it's it's uh the

progressing is stagnant but we need to

increase the capacity. This is the the

the main the main crucial things that as

long as we can increase the capacity of

the the knowledge of the policy makers

and also more and more uh people

understand the importance of to linkage

between this uh energy sector and also

climate sector. I think moving forward

it's really crucial for for us to to to to

I mean to to increase the the the the

the knowledge and also the the the the

effect to to to

more people in in ASEAN later on. So I

think that that's my my point of view uh

>> thank you very much everyone for very

insightful uh answers and also a lot of

things that can be unpacked. I think we

also already touched about SG7, SHG13.

Maybe to start with the discussion we

can uh jump into for the progress on

SDG7. So maybe this I would like to ask

the questions to Risky just to elaborate

on the progress on SG7. So Risky the

report here shows that Azan's

electrification rate has reached around

97.6% 6% which is obviously remarkable

achievements uh so far but I think if we

see it from the graph there there's

already slowing down like from 2020 2030

so I mean how do does the report

interpret this progress are we seeing

that the progress here is becoming more

challenging as countries move closer to

full energy accessification

and also what are the remaining

challenges and opportunities you see here

here

>> so yeah thank you so much for for the

question is so I I think the the the

important things of uh achieving the the

energy access is prop we we get to

proper uh uh equal access to to

everyone. So it's not really it's not

like uh we're installing uh solar PV and

then they got access only for 4 hours or

6 hours but we need to to provide them

in full access. So that's why it's

really important to increase the the the

to tackle the challenge remaining in the

the last mile of the energy access. But

the thing is uh this

uh this people that live outside of the

the the rural even in a rural area is is

something that is still needs the

infrastructure to get there. It's really

important to to to build infrastructure

to get them to get the access the proper

access because it's not equal between

person who lives in urban and also

people who lives in in rural

communities. So I think uh one of the

solution is actually increasing the

grids. Uh so I think one of them is uh

in in Assean right now we are increasing

the the

we are enhancing the MOU of uh Asan

Bidrid. So this is one of the thing it's

not only talking about the business but

also how the people in the rural

communities get the access of this type

of uh uh energy access. So that's for

for electricity access. And then the

second one is something about the clean

energy clean cooking access. In terms of

clinical access there there's still uh a

lot of challenges because there's uh

something that we need to to to to

improve in terms of policies in terms of

how the technology can be absor absorbly

uh well for the rural communities

transition from from from

cook stuff like using wood into uh LPG

might be different ball game for them.

So I think uh uh we're not talking yet

about they got access of clean uh cook

stuff like uh electric stuff. So this is

also uh different things that they needs

to to understand. So increasing the

capacity how can they uh understand to

move forward. I think this is really

important. So this those two is really

crucial for for us uh at this moment.

>> Thank you very much Risky. I think thank

you for pointing out those uh

opportunities as well and what needs to

be done. Then that leads us uh to next

question here. I would like to ask Miss

Ein uh because I think ESCAP has been

long supporting countries across Asia

Pacific on universal energy access and

as uh the region work towards universal

energy access. Could you share maybe how

escap coordinating and implementing body

for SDGs in the region is supporting

efforts to reach this last mile

communities and also encourage

collaboration across Asian and broader

Asia Pacific to expand cleaner renewable

>> Thank you. Um so ESCAP also produces um

a flagship publication that's called the

regional trend report which looks at uh

progress of SDG7 across all of the

Asia-Pacific and the findings are quite

similar to um the the ACE report that

was just launched and really the last

mile electrification is all about

reaching those remote communities and

underserved um areas and how um that has

to be done. Um there are three

components basically um there's

technology, there's financing and

there's regulation. So for the

technology part um we are seeing um

every day uh new technology

um being developed and the prices of

technology um decreasing and becoming

more accessible. However, um

technologies like um more commonly solar

rooftops, mini grids, and now you have

mini hydro power plants, you have hybrid

between um biomass and uh solar. So all

of these new technologies are out there.

Um it's just that these all require

um high upfront costs. So these

integrating these renewable technologies

into the underserved communities um

requires then the financing. So from the

financing angle um there are many

different um tools, instruments and um

modalities that can be brought in

including uh private public partnerships

um and and just public finances. Um but

to unlock and also like climate finance

um all those are available but then you

have to think about how to unlock these

finances. Um and that brings us to the

last but most important part which is

regulation um to enable d-risking of um

financing. So from a financing p

perspective um the risks of

unpredictable and inconsistent

um regulation is something that cannot

be monetized. So uh from a from a

financing perspective to go into these

um projects and fund these projects you

need to have a regulatory framework that

is very um consistent across the board

and across the years and also um very uh

predictable. So to be a to enable the

regulatorations to give permissions

licenses in a timely manner set tariffs

so that the costs can be recovered um

but yet thinking about um the lowincome

households that they are trying to

service um these all have to be balanced

right so um from escap um from last year

uh working very closely with the asen

center of energy and also the asen

secretariat and the regulators network.

Um we have been promoting this idea of

developing and establishing an ASAN

school of regulation. Um which would

help kind of bring all of the ASAN

regulators together um and develop that

much needed capacity that uh Risky has

been talking about so that the

regulation regulators can play a key

role in in enabling that last mile electrification.

electrification.

um and also um enabling them to think

about uh trading across borders and also

um you know integrating more in uh

renewables into the power system. So all

that um we're trying to establish and

institutionalize knowledge through the

school of regulation. Um and the plan

for the school is um to be launched um

next year hopefully. Um and then from

then on um we hope that the school will

be a a very concrete platform for ASEAN

regulators to cooperate, share

knowledge, share best practices and

innovative ideas for reaching that last

mile of electrification. Stop there.

Thank you.

>> Thank you very much. Majinia noted on

this. I mean there's several challenges.

I mean what needs to be done in

technology and then financial and

obviously the last mile is about the

regulation as well that needs uh to be

uh handed. So I mean moving on I think

uh we can move to the next uh point is

that I think we've already heard here

about uh the SG7 progress on access of

electrification. So I think let's move

into the connection with the energy and

climate which is really at the heart of

this uh discussions and these maybe

would like to ask the question to Dr.

Christopher. So Dr. Christopher as you

have observed Azen policies landscape

evolved over the past few years and also

you've did your research if you've

mentioned previously about uh the

surveys. So you how effectively do you

think this energy climate narrative is

being communicated and translated into

real cooperation or policy change across

the region?

Well, here we are talking about the

synergy between energy and the climate.

And in recent years at the Assean level,

we have seen that the organization has

moved from viewing energy and climate as

separate streams to treating them as a

mutually reinforcing agenda. So we see

that uh in the regional frameworks in

the ASEAN plan of action for energy

cooperation and then also at the

national level strategies they now cross

reference both sets of targets and then

they talk about embedding clean energy

and uh within the broader climate

planning right and then um when they

talk about the NDC's and the long-term

low emission development strategies ies

we also see that they explicitly link

renewable energy

efficiency and climate adaptation into

the plan. So I think the lesson here is

that addressing energy and climate

policies together creates a powerful

momentum for the region as we undergo

energy transition. And this energy

transition is in fact at a broader level

the modernization of the region right

moving forward using new technologies

growing new green economies so there's a

lot of uh opportunity there and what

I'll say is that every investment in

clean energy is also an investment in

climate solutions right now coming back

to the point about uh the narrative and

the communication.

I think we need to shift away from the

rhetoric to the actual practice where we

want to see real results. There are so

many reports out there flagging the

challenges we face. I think the

government is aware of the problems that

we face in the region. But the question

is how do we translate that into actual

policy and that is the ongoing challenge

and for that you need to have buy in

buyin from the business people buy in

from your general population buyin from

your external stakeholders and you need

to be able to have a very coherent

message when you talk about uh energy

and climate in the region and the way to

do that is to have greater coordination

and harmonization of your regulations to

create a bigger market to attract people

to want to come and invest in the

region. Um and also you know with all

this uneven development going on um I

think more needs to be done to help

those who are sort of not able to catch

up to help them you know uh lift them up

in the region and collectively uh if the

region sees the benefit uh I I think

it's uh good good for for everybody. Yeah

Yeah

>> thank you very much Dr. Christopher I

mean noted on your points there on uh

shifting the narratives there and also

you've touched upon energy investments

so that leads me to the next question uh

from your view so what can AEAN do to

strengthen its access and utilization of

climate finance especially to answer the

transition is just and inclusive across

the region.

Yeah, on the point of climate finance,

let me take one step back first. Uh like

to refer to our survey. We did a survey

about the willingness to pay uh by the

general population

uh for taking climate action and we see

that year on year there's greater

willingness for the general public uh

there's greater acknowledgement that we

need to take climate action and more

importantly willingness to pay. So they

are willing to pay a bit more in the

form of a carbon tax to make sure that

our uh region can you know grow in a

green way and if we talk about climate

finance I think that's the missing link

that can turn Assean's transition and

the aspiration that's been mentioned

into a reality right uh we need to be

able to draw investors into the region

uh And as I've said before, this is

where the harmonization comes into the

picture. We need to create a bigger

market to attract people. Right now, if

we have 10 very separate and fragmented

market, it's a very high transaction

cost for uh companies that are

interested in investing in the region

but find that to navigate this whole

maze uh is is a very big challenge. harmonization.

harmonization.

Um, we need to harmonize sustainable

finance taxonomies to boost investor confidence,

confidence,

expand public private partnerships for

distributed renewables and also like uh

try to do something with regards to the

clean cooking projects and I think the

quicker ASEAN can scale up climate

finance, the faster and fairer the

energy transition will be.

Thank you Dr. Christopher. I noted here

on harmonization. I mean there's still

opportunities there to tap on the

climate financing and as well also the

capacity. I think we've been mentioned

uh here uh by my colleague Risky and

also uh so would like to get back to

capacity part here that uh achieving

this uh SG7 SG3 interlinkage is not just

about technology or investment. It's

also about having the right

institutional capacity and knowledge

network. So Risky, could you share some

of the key recommendation from the

report on what kind of capacity building

efforts or regional learning initiatives

that are most needed to sustain this

asen energy climate transition?

>> Thank you so much. So I think uh it's

really uh multi-dimensional question. uh

actually there is a lot of uh room for

us uh to increase our capacity in terms

of uh moving towards the the good

progress of uh energy access and also

SDG7 also SG13 but uh there are at least

there are three uh uh capacity type of

capacity building that's needed the

first one is about the how to increase

the to to have the more knowledge in in

developing the the decisions So it's

related to the capacity building to the

governance or to the to the to the

government basically. So I think uh it's

related to how to build the frameworks

to to let go uh everything that might be

become the bureaucracy in the in in the

beginning. So I think that's uh one

the second one uh is actually uh about

the skills of the technicalities. So I

think there are a lot of uh uh

innovations that needs to be done. Uh

yesterday I just uh become one of the

judge of the innovation uh uh

competition done by the one of the

university in here. So I think uh the

ideas coming from the youth I think the

previous session is also talking about

youth. I think the idea coming from them

is actually quite uh good but uh they

need to increase the the the the own

technical skills as well because the

idea itself is not enough but if you do

the math and then do the proper math I

think we need to improve here and there

in terms of the technical skills. So I

think uh innovation is also needed uh to

to to increase the the uh I mean it

relies on the how capacity buildings uh

uh will be in in in the future. So

that's for the technical skills and then

the third one is about how we can uh

increase the capacity of uh uh people

who understand to transform the climate

goals and also climate actions into a

bankable projects. So it's like a grind

green financing. So I think uh at this

moment I

majority of the project of the climate

related goals is some uh quite find

obstacles because it's not uh it's not

providing any money uh so I think it's really important to how to convert this

really important to how to convert this and then there's a lot of mechanism that

and then there's a lot of mechanism that might be uh important to understand uh

might be uh important to understand uh and then we need to have more and more

and then we need to have more and more people understand this type of uh uh

people understand this type of uh uh knowledge. So I think that's why uh here

knowledge. So I think that's why uh here uh accept is providing the the ideas of

uh accept is providing the the ideas of how we can increase the capacity

how we can increase the capacity building of the policy makers in Asan

building of the policy makers in Asan region also to the youth also to the

region also to the youth also to the researchers as well. I think we are try

researchers as well. I think we are try to collaborate more with more and more

to collaborate more with more and more people. So I think uh the the the the

people. So I think uh the the the the problems that we face is actually uh

problems that we face is actually uh become uh I mean is all of us is because

become uh I mean is all of us is because of uh the the idea is uh to have the

of uh the the idea is uh to have the cooperations and I think through the uh

cooperations and I think through the uh cooperation can be done through the

cooperation can be done through the capacity building. So I think those

capacity building. So I think those three become the crucial one uh in my

three become the crucial one uh in my opinion to to to to move forward to move

opinion to to to to move forward to move the needle of us. Yeah. Thank you.

the needle of us. Yeah. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you very much Risky. I think

>> Okay. Thank you very much Risky. I think noted on three points here governance

noted on three points here governance institutions skills and also capacity

institutions skills and also capacity how to make the projects bankable. So I

how to make the projects bankable. So I think this is going to leads me to

think this is going to leads me to Profunyong as you're from the UN SDSN

Profunyong as you're from the UN SDSN which is obviously a huge regional

which is obviously a huge regional platforms and also on academic networks.

platforms and also on academic networks. So could uh how can regional platforms

So could uh how can regional platforms uh for and other academic networks can

uh for and other academic networks can help strengthen collaboration and shared

help strengthen collaboration and shared learning among Asian countries as

learning among Asian countries as currently we are trying to translate

currently we are trying to translate energy and climate commitment into

energy and climate commitment into concrete projects on the ground.

concrete projects on the ground. >> Thank you um Ilhan. I think first uh

>> Thank you um Ilhan. I think first uh SDSN and other academic institutions

SDSN and other academic institutions they need to be the bridge between uh

they need to be the bridge between uh academia and practice.

academia and practice. So I think universities um can set up

So I think universities um can set up formal structures that enable students

formal structures that enable students to go see real world um sustainable

to go see real world um sustainable development projects and participate in

development projects and participate in assisting the the creation of these

assisting the the creation of these projects.

projects. That is hugely valuable for uh students

That is hugely valuable for uh students who are studying sustainable

who are studying sustainable development. And what is the risk of not

development. And what is the risk of not doing that? The risk of not doing that

doing that? The risk of not doing that is that the the major uh career path for

is that the the major uh career path for such graduates would be into the

such graduates would be into the sustainability industry where they help

sustainability industry where they help co help with corporate sustainability

co help with corporate sustainability reporting and the feedback from students

reporting and the feedback from students is that very quickly they feel

is that very quickly they feel disillusioned

disillusioned about you they they wonder is this all

about you they they wonder is this all uh there is to do after we have studied

uh there is to do after we have studied sustainable development. So we lose

sustainable development. So we lose reason uh lose we risk losing talent uh

reason uh lose we risk losing talent uh if this is their um major option. So but

if this is their um major option. So but we know that if they can we can bridge

we know that if they can we can bridge them to real world uh um sustainable

them to real world uh um sustainable development projects those project on

development projects those project on the ground projects are going to give

the ground projects are going to give them energy continue to inspire them and

them energy continue to inspire them and help them go further in this field that

help them go further in this field that they already have an interest in. So

they already have an interest in. So that is one thing that uh I think

that is one thing that uh I think academic networks can do. The second

academic networks can do. The second thing is about translating research into

thing is about translating research into actionable tools

actionable tools and uh dissemination needs to go beyond

and uh dissemination needs to go beyond uh the publishing of reports and um

uh the publishing of reports and um academic papers and we can prioritize

academic papers and we can prioritize the release. Um here I would like to

the release. Um here I would like to talk about open access and open um

talk about open access and open um application.

application. So um academia can prioritize the

So um academia can prioritize the release of open source uh resources,

release of open source uh resources, open access resources for example um

open access resources for example um readyto-use data sets, models and tools

readyto-use data sets, models and tools that can support immediate application

that can support immediate application and replication of um results findings

and replication of um results findings across countries as well as across

across countries as well as across different economic sectors.

different economic sectors. And also I think these research findings

And also I think these research findings uh can be synthesized and communicated

uh can be synthesized and communicated through dedicated networks to a wider

through dedicated networks to a wider range of audience especially to policy

range of audience especially to policy makers and to the practitioner

makers and to the practitioner communities. This will help to ensure

communities. This will help to ensure that research findings they uh have a

that research findings they uh have a channel to shape and be integrated with

channel to shape and be integrated with the policym process as well as influence

the policym process as well as influence investment making processes. Back to you

investment making processes. Back to you Ilham.

Ilham. >> Thank you very much. I think that's a

>> Thank you very much. I think that's a very

very uh important point here to bridge the

uh important point here to bridge the academic and also practice. What are the

academic and also practice. What are the academics given needs to also to be

academics given needs to also to be translated in the practice as well. So

translated in the practice as well. So thank you uh for pointing out that

thank you uh for pointing out that perspectives. So I think we've I think

perspectives. So I think we've I think we've already quite run out of time but

we've already quite run out of time but I still have one last questions to all

I still have one last questions to all of the panelists here. I mean obviously

of the panelists here. I mean obviously everyone have shared their perspectives

everyone have shared their perspectives on energy and climate as well and what

on energy and climate as well and what needs to be done. So we've seen that uh

needs to be done. So we've seen that uh we how it's getting more closely energy

we how it's getting more closely energy and climate interdisciplinary approach

and climate interdisciplinary approach is getting more aligned uh in future and

is getting more aligned uh in future and also the report that we've just launched

also the report that we've just launched from Risky's presentation also

from Risky's presentation also highlights needs for integrated approach

highlights needs for integrated approach bringing in right policies financing

bringing in right policies financing technologies and also knowledge sharing

technologies and also knowledge sharing across the region and as we are

across the region and as we are continuing our uh aspiration here and

continuing our uh aspiration here and also efforts on clean energy and tackle

also efforts on clean energy and tackle climate change. So it's important that

climate change. So it's important that these areas should be moved like getting

these areas should be moved like getting more integrated more integrated in the

more integrated more integrated in the future and then obviously all of them

future and then obviously all of them has to be handinhand uh together. So and

has to be handinhand uh together. So and then as we close this discussion so

then as we close this discussion so would like to invite what are your final

would like to invite what are your final reflections here or hopes and how these

reflections here or hopes and how these two goals can continue to move forward

two goals can continue to move forward together to shape a more sustainable and

together to shape a more sustainable and res resilient future for us. And maybe

res resilient future for us. And maybe we can start with Miss Eene and then

we can start with Miss Eene and then continue to uh risk it. Thank you. So to

continue to uh risk it. Thank you. So to me the climate and energy nexus is

me the climate and energy nexus is really about renewables.

really about renewables. Um so how do we bring more renewables

Um so how do we bring more renewables into the system

into the system while the demand in ASEAN is set to

while the demand in ASEAN is set to soar. So just thinking about the demand

soar. So just thinking about the demand side um two examples um cooling needs

side um two examples um cooling needs and data centers. So for cooling needs

and data centers. So for cooling needs um Southeast Asia Aan region alone um

um Southeast Asia Aan region alone um are now the air conditioning penetration

are now the air conditioning penetration rate is around 20%. So thinking about

rate is around 20%. So thinking about the future where um there's economic

the future where um there's economic development and um household household

development and um household household incomes rise um looking at the developed

incomes rise um looking at the developed country air conditioning penetration

country air conditioning penetration rate which is around 80%. the demand

rate which is around 80%. the demand from just that is going to be enormous.

from just that is going to be enormous. And also the Azan region is now becoming

And also the Azan region is now becoming the hub for data centers. And in

the hub for data centers. And in Malaysia alone um in the next few years

Malaysia alone um in the next few years up to 2030 um the increase in demand for

up to 2030 um the increase in demand for just coming from data centers um is set

just coming from data centers um is set to be around 68 trillion watt hours. And

to be around 68 trillion watt hours. And this is putting this number in

this is putting this number in perspective. Um the Singaporean entire

perspective. Um the Singaporean entire um energy consumption for 2023 was

um energy consumption for 2023 was around 57 terowatt hours. So this

around 57 terowatt hours. So this exceeds the entire um energy uh

exceeds the entire um energy uh consumption of Singapore. So how do we

consumption of Singapore. So how do we meet this enormous demand growth? Um and

meet this enormous demand growth? Um and how do we make sure that the demand

how do we make sure that the demand growth is met through renewables and not

growth is met through renewables and not through fossil fuels. So that is really

through fossil fuels. So that is really the key question that we need to answer

the key question that we need to answer and find solutions for and for me that

and find solutions for and for me that answer is really about grids. So the

answer is really about grids. So the ASAN power grid very important because

ASAN power grid very important because you know it will connect the region and

you know it will connect the region and make sure that the renewable energies

make sure that the renewable energies flow from supply centers to demand

flow from supply centers to demand centers. So that is really key and the

centers. So that is really key and the next one is also the national grids

next one is also the national grids because right now generation renewable

because right now generation renewable generation capacity is increasing

generation capacity is increasing massively um due to increased

massively um due to increased investment. However the grids are not

investment. However the grids are not ready to carry that increased um

ready to carry that increased um renewable capacity. So the grids have to

renewable capacity. So the grids have to be modernized and the the grids grids

be modernized and the the grids grids have to be ready to carry more

have to be ready to carry more renewable. Um and then the just the last

renewable. Um and then the just the last point is that there's a increasing gap

point is that there's a increasing gap between um generation investment and

between um generation investment and distribution transmission and storage

distribution transmission and storage investment. Um usually it that ideally

investment. Um usually it that ideally that ratio should be one one but now

that ratio should be one one but now generation for every dollar invested in

generation for every dollar invested in generation only 60 cents is going

generation only 60 cents is going towards uh grids and storage. So we must

towards uh grids and storage. So we must bridge that gap through innovative

bridge that gap through innovative financing, through regional cooperation

financing, through regional cooperation and like the ASAM power grid really is

and like the ASAM power grid really is is the main source where we want to

is the main source where we want to bring all of the vast renewable

bring all of the vast renewable potential within the region to the

potential within the region to the countries where the consumption is. So

countries where the consumption is. So it's up there. Thank you.

it's up there. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. I think it's very

>> Thank you very much. I think it's very important point here. We need to also

important point here. We need to also understand the emerging demand. So how

understand the emerging demand. So how can we then uh make this emergency

can we then uh make this emergency demand? How do we supply this energy

demand? How do we supply this energy demand in in a climate and also is how

demand in in a climate and also is how can it be uh supplied? Okay, maybe

can it be uh supplied? Okay, maybe continue to

continue to >> Yeah. So I have two simple messages.

>> Yeah. So I have two simple messages. First one is we need to move faster,

First one is we need to move faster, right? Second point, there are five

right? Second point, there are five parts to it. We need to move together,

parts to it. We need to move together, right? together meaning we need to keep

right? together meaning we need to keep in mind SDG7 and 13 and as I mentioned

in mind SDG7 and 13 and as I mentioned SDG7 is the engine and SDG-13 is the

SDG7 is the engine and SDG-13 is the compass. Second part of togetherness is

compass. Second part of togetherness is we need to move as one ASEAN. So at the

we need to move as one ASEAN. So at the national level there need to be greater

national level there need to be greater harmonization between the countries. So

harmonization between the countries. So we move collectively as a region. The

we move collectively as a region. The third together is as a community no

third together is as a community no people is left behind. So we need to

people is left behind. So we need to think about energy justice. We uh make

think about energy justice. We uh make sure that you know this growth is more

sure that you know this growth is more even.

even. Fourth point what uh the first speaker

Fourth point what uh the first speaker just said which I just talked about

just said which I just talked about which fits very nicely with this concept

which fits very nicely with this concept of togetherness is really the Assean

of togetherness is really the Assean power grid right working together

power grid right working together uh having a regional power grid crossber

uh having a regional power grid crossber electricity trade I think that goes into

electricity trade I think that goes into the harmonization of the region fits

the harmonization of the region fits very nicely and uh finally togetherness

very nicely and uh finally togetherness in terms of renewable energy uh

in terms of renewable energy uh generation

generation and together with uh grid investments

and together with uh grid investments and more investments and focus on the

and more investments and focus on the storage as well. Right. Yeah, that's

storage as well. Right. Yeah, that's all. Thank you.

all. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Christopher,

>> Thank you very much. Christopher, please.

please. >> Okay. As we continue to accelerate the

>> Okay. As we continue to accelerate the journey of bringing energy development

journey of bringing energy development and climate action together, we will

and climate action together, we will continue to do large scale

continue to do large scale infrastructure projects and these kind

infrastructure projects and these kind of projects will inevitably change our

of projects will inevitably change our existing environment. So what do we do?

existing environment. So what do we do? Um where is the balance? How do we

Um where is the balance? How do we balance infrastructure needs and

balance infrastructure needs and ecological responsibility?

ecological responsibility? I think it is through uh good systems

I think it is through uh good systems design that we can have a chance of make

design that we can have a chance of make amplifying the benefits manifold over um

amplifying the benefits manifold over um the cost that will come when we change

the cost that will come when we change the environment.

the environment. So uh I think developing systems design

So uh I think developing systems design abstract abstract thinking which is uh

abstract abstract thinking which is uh crucial to reach um systemic design is

crucial to reach um systemic design is important and that is something that we

important and that is something that we don't talk about often. How do we dis

don't talk about often. How do we dis develop abstract thinking

develop abstract thinking second point is I think we need to move

second point is I think we need to move beyond um I think the energy transition

beyond um I think the energy transition is is more than an intellect an exercise

is is more than an intellect an exercise of the intellect. So we need to bring

of the intellect. So we need to bring our hearts in. Um we need to bring love,

our hearts in. Um we need to bring love, kindness and trust into all the things

kindness and trust into all the things that we are doing for the energy

that we are doing for the energy transition. We need to ask this crucial

transition. We need to ask this crucial question to ourselves and and and to our

question to ourselves and and and to our the people around us is what does it

the people around us is what does it mean to live well together?

Yeah, I think I will not add much but I just rate it right uh what has been said

just rate it right uh what has been said uh from the previous speaker. So I think

uh from the previous speaker. So I think uh agree about the interconnectivity. So

uh agree about the interconnectivity. So it's not only limited to grid but also

it's not only limited to grid but also maybe another uh supply chains uh and

maybe another uh supply chains uh and the because we also have the clean

the because we also have the clean cooking access that we needs to to

cooking access that we needs to to increase as well. So I think

increase as well. So I think interconnectivity in terms of ascent

interconnectivity in terms of ascent power grid and also those uh supply

power grid and also those uh supply chain uh interconnectivity within the

chain uh interconnectivity within the region is really important. Uh and then

region is really important. Uh and then I will reiterate uh what Dr. Christopher

I will reiterate uh what Dr. Christopher mentioned we need to move faster uh as

mentioned we need to move faster uh as quick as possible because uh the clock

quick as possible because uh the clock is ticking. So I think uh we don't have

is ticking. So I think uh we don't have much time to to to to debate about this

much time to to to to debate about this is this is right this is no we need to

is this is right this is no we need to to to go with the the the moral compass

to to go with the the the moral compass that we have uh in in in here. So I

that we have uh in in in here. So I think uh also agree with uh professor

think uh also agree with uh professor Yuno uh that we have to really put our

Yuno uh that we have to really put our hearts into into the the the activity

hearts into into the the the activity that we we we believe that it will be uh

that we we we believe that it will be uh changing the future in terms of uh in a

changing the future in terms of uh in a good way. So I think uh technology it

good way. So I think uh technology it will evolve uh innovation will come but

will evolve uh innovation will come but I think the idea of having uh uh proper

I think the idea of having uh uh proper access equality to to everyone is

access equality to to everyone is something that we needs to to to address

something that we needs to to to address as well. So the inclusivity is really

as well. So the inclusivity is really important for for us to to to to

important for for us to to to to for the people uh get the access of uh

for the people uh get the access of uh the equal access of energy the equal

the equal access of energy the equal access of of of clean cooking and

access of of of clean cooking and industries is really uh crucial

industries is really uh crucial underlying uh every single works that we

underlying uh every single works that we have done in in uh in Asan region. We

have done in in uh in Asan region. We have new targets uh of re targets we

have new targets uh of re targets we have also uh new EI targets under the

have also uh new EI targets under the new blueprint. This is something uh for

new blueprint. This is something uh for me personally see this as opportunity.

me personally see this as opportunity. So there might be uh challenge uh along

So there might be uh challenge uh along with this opportunity of course but I

with this opportunity of course but I think uh if we can do this together I

think uh if we can do this together I think it's really important to to we can

think it's really important to to we can address it uh all together with with

address it uh all together with with with all the the the communities and

with all the the the communities and also uh from academicians governments

also uh from academicians governments and also uh uh private sectors. I think

and also uh uh private sectors. I think it's really important to to move forward

it's really important to to move forward and also to move together. I think

and also to move together. I think that's uh from my side.

that's uh from my side. >> Thank you very much everyone for sharing

>> Thank you very much everyone for sharing those reflections. I just want to

those reflections. I just want to summarize all of this. I mean know that

summarize all of this. I mean know that on the emerging demands I mean we still

on the emerging demands I mean we still have other demands. We we electrify more

have other demands. We we electrify more things and obviously interconnection is

things and obviously interconnection is going to be important if we want to also

going to be important if we want to also decarbonize our energy systems and also

decarbonize our energy systems and also the need uh for faster I mean the clock

the need uh for faster I mean the clock is ticking. So we have to do it as fast

is ticking. So we have to do it as fast as we can and also I think the important

as we can and also I think the important one is on system design and critical an

one is on system design and critical an abstract thinking. So we need to also

abstract thinking. So we need to also this is a systematic problem. So what we

this is a systematic problem. So what we need to uh solve this is it has to be

need to uh solve this is it has to be systematic as well. Especially we have

systematic as well. Especially we have more large infrastructure projects. So I

more large infrastructure projects. So I think in summary I think we still have a

think in summary I think we still have a lot of work to be done and I hope I mean

lot of work to be done and I hope I mean hopefully it's also beginning mean just

hopefully it's also beginning mean just yesterday we also uh published the API

yesterday we also uh published the API 2026 2030 as our regional aspirations

2026 2030 as our regional aspirations and hopefully we can uh obviously work

and hopefully we can uh obviously work together on this uh energy agendas

together on this uh energy agendas towards this energy transition and just

towards this energy transition and just an inclusive uh energy transition. So uh

an inclusive uh energy transition. So uh first thank you very much uh everyone uh

first thank you very much uh everyone uh for giving your thoughts here. So please

for giving your thoughts here. So please uh join me in giving a round of applause

uh join me in giving a round of applause uh to the panelists here. Thank you very

uh to the panelists here. Thank you very much for the engaging discussion. So

much for the engaging discussion. So with that I would like to conclude this

with that I would like to conclude this session. So my name is Ilham. I'm

session. So my name is Ilham. I'm signing off. Thank you very much. And

signing off. Thank you very much. And I'm handed the floor back to our MC for

I'm handed the floor back to our MC for the close session. Thank you.

the close session. Thank you. Maybe before the panelist is going back,

Maybe before the panelist is going back, let us take a photo session first.

Okay, please [music] give round of applause of for our distinguished guest

applause of for our distinguished guest and panelist.

So ladies and [music] gentlemen, just now we just witnessed a very insightful

now we just witnessed a very insightful discussions about this new interlinkage

discussions about this new interlinkage between the SDG7 and also SDG3

between the SDG7 and also SDG3 and there were a lot of wide range of

and there were a lot of wide range of perspectives [music] of linking the

perspectives [music] of linking the energy climate and also inclusivity

energy climate and also inclusivity within the ASAN context to offici close

within the ASAN context to offici close today's session. I would not now like to

today's session. I would not now like to invite Miss Aldi Land Rahima, project

invite Miss Aldi Land Rahima, project manager of accept 2 to deliver the

manager of accept 2 to deliver the closing remarks for Miss Alila. The

closing remarks for Miss Alila. The floor is yours. Please give a round of

floor is yours. Please give a round of applause.

Thank you Indira. Good morning everyone. What an engaging and insightful

What an engaging and insightful discussion we've had this morning. Now,

discussion we've had this morning. Now, as we come to the close of this session,

as we come to the close of this session, allow me to share a few reflection and

allow me to share a few reflection and also words of thanks to close the

also words of thanks to close the session. So, we begin today this war

session. So, we begin today this war this morning with welcoming remarks from

this morning with welcoming remarks from Dat Razid Daw, our executive director,

Dat Razid Daw, our executive director, delivered by Dr. Zulfikiar Yunidi and

delivered by Dr. Zulfikiar Yunidi and from Mr. N. Narly of the Roy Royal

from Mr. N. Narly of the Roy Royal Norwegian Embassy in Koala Lumpur and

Norwegian Embassy in Koala Lumpur and both I think reaffirming how strong

both I think reaffirming how strong partnership can drive ASEAN's clean

partnership can drive ASEAN's clean energy transition forward. We then

energy transition forward. We then celebrated the launch of our new report

celebrated the launch of our new report advancing clean energy in ASEAN

advancing clean energy in ASEAN leveraging the interlinkage between SDG7

leveraging the interlinkage between SDG7 and SDG-13.

and SDG-13. This report developed under the ASEAN

This report developed under the ASEAN climate change and energy project or

climate change and energy project or ACEP highlights how stronger climate

ACEP highlights how stronger climate action can accelerate access to

action can accelerate access to affordable reliable and sustainable

affordable reliable and sustainable energy in the region. I think through

energy in the region. I think through the presentation and panel a few

the presentation and panel a few messages clearly stood out. First energy

messages clearly stood out. First energy and climate goals must move together.

and climate goals must move together. Achieving SDG7 will depend on how

Achieving SDG7 will depend on how effectively we act on SDG-13, aligning

effectively we act on SDG-13, aligning our energy transition with climate

our energy transition with climate commitments. Second, I think

commitments. Second, I think collaboration is a key. No single sector

collaboration is a key. No single sector can do this alone. Government, industry,

can do this alone. Government, industry, academia and partners must work hand in

academia and partners must work hand in hand to turn policies into action. And

hand to turn policies into action. And finally, we were reminded that this

finally, we were reminded that this transition must be just and inclusive,

transition must be just and inclusive, ensuring that communities and workers

ensuring that communities and workers across ASEAN benefit from opportunities

across ASEAN benefit from opportunities of a lowcarbon future. And I would like

of a lowcarbon future. And I would like to extend my heartfelt thanks to our

to extend my heartfelt thanks to our panelists, Professor Lang, Dr. Len, Miss

panelists, Professor Lang, Dr. Len, Miss Yajinha, for sharing their valuable

Yajinha, for sharing their valuable perspectives. My appreciation also goes

perspectives. My appreciation also goes to Risky, the lead author of our report,

to Risky, the lead author of our report, to Ilam, our moderator, uh, and of

to Ilam, our moderator, uh, and of course to our wonderful master of

course to our wonderful master of ceremony, Indira, for keeping the

ceremony, Indira, for keeping the session running very smoothly and with

session running very smoothly and with great energy. And thank you to everyone

great energy. And thank you to everyone here for taking the time to be part of

here for taking the time to be part of this dialogue. Before uh we close, I

this dialogue. Before uh we close, I would like to mention once again that

would like to mention once again that the new ashen plan of action for energy

the new ashen plan of action for energy cooperation 2026 2030 which now you can

cooperation 2026 2030 which now you can download from ACE website and listen to

download from ACE website and listen to the presentation later today at 2:30

the presentation later today at 2:30 charts the next chapters of our regional

charts the next chapters of our regional cooperation. One that accelerate

cooperation. One that accelerate theization while keeping people and

theization while keeping people and inclusivity at its core. So to wrap up,

inclusivity at its core. So to wrap up, I hope today's discussion leaves you

I hope today's discussion leaves you inspired to continue connecting the dots

inspired to continue connecting the dots between energy and climate policy and

between energy and climate policy and practice and ambition and action. On

practice and ambition and action. On behalf of the ASEAN Center for Energy, I

behalf of the ASEAN Center for Energy, I want to thank everyone to be part of

want to thank everyone to be part of this meaningful exchange. Thank you very

this meaningful exchange. Thank you very much and I hope you enjoy the rest of

much and I hope you enjoy the rest of the Assean Energy Business Forum. Thank

the Assean Energy Business Forum. Thank you.

you. >> Thank you, Miss Aldila, for the closing

>> Thank you, Miss Aldila, for the closing remarks. [music] And ladies and

remarks. [music] And ladies and gentlemen, uh as my final statement to

gentlemen, uh as my final statement to close this session, uh just an inclusive

close this session, uh just an inclusive energy transition will not only

energy transition will not only depending on the technology or

depending on the technology or infrastructure itself. It is also

infrastructure itself. It is also depending on the people and also the

depending on the people and also the readiness of Asan people to move and to

readiness of Asan people to move and to be the part of the transition. So as we

be the part of the transition. So as we wrap up these sessions, the

wrap up these sessions, the conversations doesn't end here. It is

conversations doesn't end here. It is only the beginning. Please stay tuned

only the beginning. Please stay tuned for our upcoming panel sessions in this

for our upcoming panel sessions in this room as we continue exploring new ideas.

room as we continue exploring new ideas. On behalf of the Assean Center for

On behalf of the Assean Center for Energy, we thank you for for every

Energy, we thank you for for every active participation. Please enjoy the

active participation. Please enjoy the rest of the day at IABF here and we look

rest of the day at IABF here and we look forward to seeing you again in our

forward to seeing you again in our upcoming sessions. I'm Indira signing

upcoming sessions. I'm Indira signing out and thank you very much for your

out and thank you very much for your kind attention.

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