This podcast episode features a wide-ranging discussion between Joe Rogan and Michael Bisping, covering topics from MMA fighter stories and career transitions to personal health, geopolitical events, and the nature of wealth and happiness.
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Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan
day good to see you brother good to see
you too we're working together for the
first time this weekend I know I just
told you yeah I'm very excited I'm very
excited about that it's a [ __ ] great
card yeah no it really is uh sick card
dubious circumstances how I got the call
so my call me Daniel's mom passed away
yeah very very very unfortunate you know
and this is this is such a crazy week
cuz the Cain Velasquez story just came
out and we were having that conversation
and you
know [ __ ] man I mean that's a heavy one
that's the heaviest his four-year-old
daughter was allegedly molested by this
guy and you could only imagine the rage
the [ __ ] rage that must have been
going through that man's mind I mean I I
get it apparently it was a hundred times
I don't know how they know that but
that's what's circulating and as you say
one time when you hear that that this
potential he been going on for God knows
how long yeah and he's got a little
daughter man she's four she's a tiny
little cute little adorable girl and
that's it's just and what does that do
to her head to have that happen a 100
times how do you you can't erase those
memories it's so
sick SI yeah I mean it's beyond sick
H that that guy deserves everything what
Kane did well Kane actually got his
father didn't he not the ACT guy himself
yeah sadly I mean my only wish is that
he did it with his hands my only wish is
that he just ran that car off the road
pulled that guy out of the [ __ ] car
and beat him to
death [ __ ] you and even that would have
been too good for him yes it would have
been you know it would have been yeah I
mean that is that is a sickness there's
like there's certain sicknesses that
people have that human beings have
sicknesses of the mind but that one the
molesting like a [ __ ] baby that's a
four-year-old's like a baby molesting
children is the sickest of all of those
sicknesses and he's never going to get
better no I just don't think they do man
no a reformed pedophile is there such a
thing I don't believe so they say the
recidivism rate is way high it's really
high what is the see Google that what's
the recidivism rate for child
molesters i what does that mean Joe oh
sorry repe big words on me I use them
wrong all the time what is it recidivism
recidivism that's a new one I've never
heard that I don't have the a bad
vocabulary but but that's pretty good I
like that it's uh it just means you're
you go back to your old ways you go back
to offending yeah I think it's just a
legal term that they use for cism for
criminals yeah it's got to be high I
think it's very high I think it's like
in the 90% or something like that did
anything not the right answer it's uh
but again but how how would you know
that rate anyway because it's not
exactly like because they catch them
they catch them again sometimes yeah
right sometimes you know what I'm saying
that's that that's what I'm talking
about yeah they're not exactly forward
with that information it's just a
sickness that's been going on for for
since the beginning of time what is what
you got you got something here a couple
different things this might be the best
answer there in the top of that it's say
sex Defenders though so the only sex
Defenders could be rape it could be
anything I know a guy who got charged
with a sex offense crime because he was
taking a leak outside oh really yeah
he's taking a piss outside cops pull him
over and uh in decent exposure exactly
and so he had to be registered as a sex
on no way yeah yeah oh my God I mean who
wasn't had a piss outside and it was
like in Indiana or some [ __ ] like that
and the cops were just con I remember
when I first moved there I was on a uh
we went to a nightclub back in the days
when I would go to a nightclub and uh I
got out of the car and I was dying for a
piss you know when you've had a few
drinks and I'm in a car park so I just
take a little leak against the wall and
my buddy's like Mike what are you doing
you can't do that here you're not in
Manchester I'm like well we don't piss
everywhere in Manchester either do you
know what do you think we are [ __ ]
dogs do you know what I mean but I need
a piss and I've had a few beers shut up
it reminds me of a nightmare I had
recently I had a nightmare recently that
uh I I had a pee so bad that I I pissed
in a restaurant on the floor and I was
hoping nobody noticed it's the craziest
dream like I'm just remembering it now
and that like like I feel like I got
caught in the dream and I had to like
pinch it off real quick but I was like
trying to piss on the floor in a
restaurant somewhere yeah what is that
like decipher that yeah well decipher
this one I have a lot of Night Terrors
which is like extreme dreams I I'm
assuming and I I just wake up in the
night screaming and doing crazy stuff
couple of years ago last time my wife's
brother and his entire family came they
were all staying at my house it's
Christmas morning and I had one of my
episodes I don't know why I jumped out
of bed Christmas morning like 5:30 a.m.
and I always sleep naked so I'm
completely naked I jump out of bed and
my wife cuz I was still asleep so I
didn't know I did it I ran out the the
bedroom ran down the stairs right
obviously thought someone was trying to
kill me in my dream fell down the stairs
got up ran out of the house came to on
the next door neighbor's wall completely
naked oh my God cut all my my my feet
and everything up cuz I was climbing
over the walls oh my God my wife's
brother's family were like this guy's a
[ __ ] Maniac what is he doing I came
too I was sitting on the wall I'm like
wow that was a crazy one oh I have a
good friend of mine her brother they
were on vacation and their brother has
night terrors and he ran out of the
hotel room and ran through you know they
have those glass railings in hotels on
the second floor ran through the glass
and fell the second floor and now he's
paralyzed I was in Cancun last year same
thing cuz we were up real high and every
night I locked the doors to keep
yourself from doing that yeah cuz I was
I said to my wife I said what if I run
out there in the middle of the [ __ ]
night and we're 20 floors up you know
what I mean how often have you I mean
how long has this been going on ever
since I was the first one I had I went
to Switzerland with the Boy Scouts when
I was like nine or 10 years old yeah
that was the first one yeah yeah do you
remember the dreams no no I a lot of the
time I have no idea they even happen my
wife tells me the next day she's like oh
you and she's so used to it by now I put
imagine living with you imagine her
she's living with the former UFC
middleweight champion of the world so
you're a [ __ ] Savage already and
she's got to make sure that you don't
wake up in the middle of the night and
think you're in to fight for your life
yes yes I remember one night I remember
this one the the ceiling fan I thought
the ceiling fan was going to come down
and chop us up and she's fast asleep and
I grab her and I throw her against the
wall you know she's on your little thing
and she and then she she's on the floor
she's like what the [ __ ] are you doing
I'm oh I'm sorry bab I thought the fan
up see and that's so crazy I wish I was
exaggerating that's so crazy zero
exaggeration to this story right now
remember it when you're waking up like
after you threw it to the ground is that
when you wake it ever so slightly very
vaguely yeah wow that's so crazy MH
that's so crazy yeah yeah that wake the
the dream walking thing is
strange it is people do it they just
they'll walk right up to you and just
start talking you're like hey man are
you awake and you realize like oh he's
not even awake like they say to bed yeah
go back to bed yeah they say don't wake
them but why not wake wake me the [ __ ]
up especially if I'm [ __ ] naked on
top of the neighbor's fence wake me up
here's the question what would wake you
if being a naked running down the stairs
climbing a fence that doesn't wake you
up what's going to wake you up a bucket
of cold water if you see me running down
the street Joe totally naked but I got
to get a bucket I got to chase you slap
me the cold water me do something
speaking of which I can't believe that
you can run on these artificial knees
now that is amazing yeah yeah I you do
that thing where you you showed me you
tap it do it so like with the the
microphone can hear it hold on let's
have a look listen to his knee this is
the artificial
knee that's
both that one doesn't do it as well wow
but yeah yeah I mean so you had them
replaced yeah fully so what did they do
did they cut the top of the knee off and
put like a new thing and screw it in
like they do it a few different ways
like resurfacing and sometimes they they
they have the joints dis like I have a
friend who his joint was disformed
because uh he had gone without cartilage
for so long bone on bone that the bones
started like getting Spurs and yeah they
had they had to cut his open yeah
essentially so they they they cut cut
the leg open obviously remove the entire
knee shave down the femur shave down the
tibbi and the fibia put in a whole new
knee attach the tendons staple you up
and off you pop wow and then uh the
recover is awful awful I mean my leg
swelled up to about this size um and
then that was my left knee which gave me
problems ever since I trained with
George St Pierre in uh 2005 I tore my
PCL so it was just one thing after the
other you know wear and tear but my
right knee had never bothered me once
never any issue whatsoever until I had
the left knee replaced and then as soon
as that healed started having pain in my
right KNE really yeah and then they said
yeah you need that one replaced as well
I'm like I've never felt any pain they
went well that's crazy because that
needs shot as well so yeah had them both
done uh best thing I ever did you know I
mean it's weird it's weird it's a weird
sensation even now if I go on my knees
it's not pain but it's just a very
strange I mean they're still num you
know so there's no feeling there so
doing Jiu-Jitsu you know so you're
training again uh well I was G to say
doing Jiu-Jitsu is an issue you know I I
don't do it very often you know because
I imagine if someone gets you in a heel
hook oh yeah yeah did you would you feel
it oh for sure yeah You' feel it in the
tendons I would say so I think so I
don't know nobody's done that yet like
did they replace your ACL do you have an
ACL at all or is it just an artificial I
don't know that's a good question I
never asked I never that's hilarious
yeah it's like hey I'm not concerned
with it just do it yeah Joey Diaz had
one of his replaced and he said he
started doing Jiu-Jitsu too but he said
sometimes someone will move him funny
and it'll pop out of socket oh no no
there's nothing like that but it pops
back in place right but I mean his he
might have like LAX tendons or something
I'm just guessing yeah so I said to the
doctor I said is it fine to run and he
said yeah well I screwed them in extra
tight so you're good to run I'm like
wouldn't you screw them in extra tight
anyway I'm like oh this guy likes to run
we'll just give that a couple more
[ __ ] turns I'm like what what are we
fixing a door here you screwed them in
tight what do you mean so anyway yeah I
would imagine that would be something
you do every [ __ ] time tight possible
yeah yeah my mom's trying to avoid one
right now she's had some real pain in
one of her knees and uh I sent her down
to Panama to uh Stem Cell clinic and
that helped a lot that killed all the
pain like she she went down there and 6
months later she was real like concerned
because it was like 6 months and there
was no improvement she's like I don't
think it worked on me and then after 6
months the pain went away and then it's
like slowly got better so I've sent her
down there a second time and uh I'd like
to like keep her going and try to avoid
the because the thing about it when
you're older too she's like
75 you know when you're older you don't
heal good man no can I imagine if it's
rough for you what's it going to be like
for my mom yeah exactly I'm trying to do
the same thing with my mom she had Polio
when she was a kid oh Jes so she she
well she can't walk now you know cuz she
broke her hip she always had a terrible
limp but then she fell over and broke
her hip and it just hasn't healed right
but they say in the doctors in England
said they can't operate cuz the bones
are too soft but the guy that did my
knee replacement he said that's [ __ ]
he said we operate on porous bones all
the time so I'm trying to get her to
come out here so we can do something
with her but that's got to I got to get
her on a plane first she she's almost 80
she didn't want to leave the house let
alone fly to England to have an
operation sorry fly to the states to
have an operation you know so a friend
of mine was telling me about his dad who
got a hip replacement and he said he
almost wish his dad didn't get it he
goes cuz yes his dad was in pain before
the hip replacement he goes but his dad
is so frail after the surgery cuz he was
close to 82 I as well and I think that
when you know the surgery itself which
is so I mean they saw the top of your
femur off and they it's a lot lot going
on and it was so traumatic that he never
really fully recovered and he's been way
worse since then cuz just the the
surgery that's one thing that people
have to take into consideration it's
like you're going to be your body's got
to recover from that takes a long ass time
time
I said to my doctor when when I the day
I had the knee replacement I was leaving
I said when do you think uh I can like
move again you know be walking about he
said oh you can do a pelaton class today
he was [ __ ] so full of [ __ ] he's a
great guy I'm like I couldn't move my
leg forever I'm like he said oh you'll
be able to do the pelaton class today if
you want I was yeah and then part of the
rehab when they were coming was just
trying to cuz I had a peleton bite right
there he's like just to try and do one
rotation on it you know that took months
or a few weeks should I say wae I saw
you in a hospital gown trying to do a
jumping front kick right after you got
out yeah yeah well you
know perco set's a really strong
drug you know what can I tell you yeah
it's it's nice though that there's
something that they could do that leaves
pain because I I have some friends that
have some [ __ ] really bad knees and
when you see them like get up off the
couch and walk and you know it's just
sharp pain sharp pain sharp pain every
step and they just have to tolerate it
and so they're always on edge they're
always like what what you know they're
[ __ ] in agony I I I I know the
feeling I Liv my life in agony for years
I tell Matt sah all the time because his
knees are the same way his knees are
[ __ ] too he always asked me said Mike
what do you think knee replacement yes
or no I'm like do it best thing I ever
did best thing I ever did he normal he's
walking around normal yeah now he's pain
is he just in pain every time he walks
how many F that's the thing about
jiu-jitsu guys like or Fighters like how
many [ __ ] guys are just constantly
walking around in pain mhm you know I
was in pain a lot of pain a lot of pain
towards the end yeah what are you going
to do if you like it I mean especially
if that's what you do for a living it's
just part who the [ __ ] no one rides for
free no nobody gets out of your business
and and in the end of the day you're
100% you just kind of resign yourself to
that you know people ask me you know I
mean I I have no regrets I mean the
knees are the tip of the iceberg you
know got one I got I to have my nose
rebuilt they took my ribs and rebuilt
that what else my neck I had neck
surgery last year I got to have two more
plates T put in two disc taken out you
know what are they doing to your neck
well remember years ago we were talking
about it yeah yeah you had a bulging
disc and it was like atrophying your arm
right correct yeah it still does that so
he went in through my throat sliced me
open there pushed my throat to the side
took a disc out put a titanium plate in
and four screws was this why you were
still fighting no this was last year oh
okay last year yeah so you got one of
them articulated discs in there
something how does that work I'm still
in pain still in pain they got to do it
two more times I said to the doctor cuz
that terrified me just the thought of
coming through the throat and messing
with the spine you know that's scary so
I put it off for years and uh in the end
I just couldn't take the pain anymore
but I said if I do this it's going to
take care of this yeah I guarantee you
100% and uh yeah I got have it done two
more times [ __ ] so two more separate
operations or one operation where I'm
hoping one and I said can you go through
the same score because I don't want
slashes all over my neck people already
see me running down the street naked
[ __ ] half asleep I don't I don't need
slashes on my neck as well to go with it
like lock that man up um they said maybe
we'll see how the scar isssue is
sometimes that can be an issue the first
guy that I knew that had that done was
bro esema he had his uh he had these
fake discs put in his neck and I I've
always had neck problems too like
everybody does Jiu-Jitsu has neck
problems and I was I've always asked him
I'm like how you doing now he's like man
I had to get another one so he had
another one done so he's at two fake
discs in his neck and then he's also got
some other pain from the other the
problem is like the other discs that are
connected to the disc that was an issue
they start becoming a problem like the
next one down becomes a problem Eddie
Bravo has one too he's got a fake one
fake one in his lower back yeah oh well
what what are you going to do what are
you going to do it is what it is yeah I
mean for some people it works great
I mean I do know one dude who did it and
he never felt pain again he had it fixed
in his lower back he's got no problems
yeah yeah yeah I I had no pain for a
while but slowly but surely started
creeping back but you're not doing
Jiu-Jitsu right no I don't do much other
than run and lift weights at the minute
I want to I mean I hit the bag a bit I
want to do djit so I actually had
somebody ask me if I'd do a uh they're
putting on some kind of event at uh the
somewhere in Vegas what's it called some
some old arena they used to do fight I
forget anyway they're putting on a
jiujitsu event said Mike would you they
want to compete yeah and I said oh I
said I'm kind of interested it give me
something to train for you know what I
mean something to do you know rather
than just running through the hills
talking to myself naked um so I I I
thought I kind of fany this but he never
he never reached out he took my email
address but uh how much time do you
think you'd have to train to prepare for
a Jiu-Jitsu match a while I think I
think I haven't I haven't rolled in
quite some time last time I rolled I I
bent my finger 90 de to the died [ __ ]
this this this is why I haven't rolled
for a while yeah yeah yeah it's uh it's
a rough business it is you know we were
saying just before and my son he just
he's a wrestler he loves it that's his
life and it's you know it's such a great
sport I mean what they've done with my
son the wrestling coaches it's amazing
really molded him into a great young man
yeah it's been cool watching him on
Instagram it's nice it's nice W watching
you know a son of a champion you know
get into Combat Sports himself it's it's
ex yeah well I don't think he wants to
fight people ask that all the time I
don't think he wants to fight I mean I
say I thought so he doesn't have to you
know yeah uh but if he wanted to of
course I would support him but um yeah
he's had a lot of knee problems as well
and then sadly they took his miniscus
out as I said made it back for the end
of the season went to Regionals first
taked down his shot got the taked down
but blew his ACL out on his good knee so
he's well he's he's very depressed right
now he's a young guy and they can
replace your meniscus when you're young
they do cadav meniscus graphs and
apparently on young people it's pretty
effective um but there's another thing
that uh we've talked about on this
podcast because I had the guy on he's
got a a a Instagram page I don't know if
you ever seen it's called knee over toes
guy yep I've been doing that for about 7
months now and it's completely changed
my knees all the pain that I had in my
knees it's gone like my my knees are so
much stronger than they've ever been
before it's funny you mention that
because that's exactly what
uh Callum my son was talking about yeah
he'd been recommended it and I said I
said I think I've heard Joe Rogan
talking about that and then a lot of
people on Twitter you need to follow
knees over toes it's incred done it yet
Mike it's incredible it's incredible
yeah I recommend it to everybody I mean
even with your fake knees it's like it's
going to strengthen all the muscles
around the knees that stabilize the knee
one of the things that he does it's like
the primary exercise is walking
backwards with a sled so I load the sled
up with weight I attach it to my hip
with a hip belt yep and I drag the sled
just pushing backwards and I do it every
workout now right he was he was doing it
uh every I was doing it one time I was
only doing it like so here's this
gentleman doing it here so he's pushing
back you're on your toes and it just
completely changes like the way your
knees feel it pushes all the blood into
them but it strengthens them because
it's an unusual way of like uh
exercising with it yeah no I'll say I I
used to do stuff like that in strength
and conditioning the walking backwards
thing though for the knees is phenomenal
you see that's what they say that's the
number one bang for your buck for knee
longevity really yeah if only I knew
this 10 years ago I know I just found
out about it pretty recently Jamie's
actually the one that told me about it
he was uh explaining to me because he
knows I've had a a gang of knee problems
too but this is a a game Cher that and I
do a lot of split squats and I do a
bunch of different exercises like tibia
raises like with weight you know that
strengthen the the the muscles on the
side of your shins the tibian muscles
and I do um a lot of different things uh
that this uh knee over toes guy
recommends right you know yeah I'm just
laughing to myself that I I I definitely
Skip Leg Day I've got I've got to I've
got to I've got to work on that yeah
well it's just that's that's the way to
strengthen all the [ __ ] around your knee
to keep your knee stable yeah no no I
know I know I know so many of us don't
do I mean if you're training martial
arts most of the time you're just doing
the training and maybe you're doing some
strength conditioning but you don't like
specifically work on muscle groups to
strengthen joints yeah you know but this
guy had a gang of knee surgeries and
real problems when he was in high school
and college and yeah I uh I I would say
every week I'm going to do more legs got
to start that's it this week I'm going
to definitely do more legs and I'm
trying to do more functional workouts
but then you get busy and whatnot you
know what I mean I like to start my day
with a run and I go in and lift weights
I know you shouldn't do them together
should do cardio first and then have a
break and lift weights I'm like [ __ ] it
I just got to got to squeeze it all in I
got things to do and
somehow don't find myself doing the
squats I don't know why that is I in
fact I do know why it's because every
time I do it I I fall onto the toilet as
opposed to sitting onto I'm like and I
know I know the drill well at least you
didn't get heavy a lot of guys when they
retire they get heavy yeah oh that's the
prince Nasim hammed look yeah he's a
he's a big boy these days he's big he's
a big fella yeah it's a constant battle
though it's a constant battle well a lot
of Fighters you know when they're
fighting and training and then when they
don't have to anymore like they can't
wait just not have to do that anymore
well no that's it that's it I used to do
a lot of the kind of stuff you were just
talking about I'm kind of over it now you
you
know yeah it gets tiresome yeah it's uh
is a hard life but at the end of the
day a guy like you you get to sit back
and say I was the [ __ ] middleweight
champion of the world yeah and the the
that's real yeah no it nobody can take
that from you no forever and it is nice
and it definitely made a change I guess
in my life cuz it kind of validated
everything you know but that's not
really why I did it you know what I mean
I mean yeah of course everybody wants to
be the champ if you're going to compete
in any sport then of course you want to
be as good as you can be but I was just
trying to make some money you know but
of course the two they go hand in hand
because if you make if you become the
champ then you make more money you know
like when I got involved with this it
was to uh my plan was to make enough
money so I could go to college and then
hopefully get a proper job you know so
it kind of exceeded all those
Expectations by far so that was when you
were in your early 20s like that yeah
yeah yeah yeah when I left school and
then didn't you know dead end job after
dead end job you come to find out
there's not much call for unqualified
16y olds did you win Ultimate Fighter
season 3 three wow isn't that wild yeah
there's like 30 Seasons now it's it's
insane sometimes like you know I will be
looking at a video like getting ready
for a fight watching a guy's going to
compete and like oh he won The Ultimate
Fighter season 27 I was like what and
that's probably five six years ago I
know yeah yeah no it's wild it's crazy
it's it's crazy how many seasons there
been and how much talents come from
there and then on top of that you got
the contender series how much talent's
coming out that I know the [ __ ] level
now man it's insane some of these guys
like that you know um like like Hamot
look at that guy oh yeah I mean what the
[ __ ] man hey and you want to hear what I
hear it's crazy training sessions yeah
that's right here too he's over cuz
Darren Till's there right now at
Allstars in Sweden and uh what Darren
tell you he's a [ __ ] animal he's just
an absolute animal nonstop in every way
striking wrestling conditioning
apparently you know cuz all his fights
have finished real quick yeah so he's
never had to show that side of things
but apparently his conditioning is like
nothing you've ever seen as well well
you see the training footage and you see
the intensity that this guy pursues
everything with it makes you know he's
only been striking for a few years I
know it's crazy that's n when you see
the way he knocked out mirart you're
like Jesus Christ was a nice right hand
beautiful perfect and there's another
video of him when he was younger where
he knocked a guy out with an uppercut
did you ever see that video no oh my God
it's like one of the best uppercut Kos
I've ever seen in my life just he just
made a read perfectly placed stepped in
BL just flatlined the guy with an
uppercut I mean Gilbert Burns is going
to be a tough fight for oh is this it
let me see watch this
look at that I mean that's a perfect
read and he stepped off as well so he
was away from the counter yeah you know
what I mean so he's not just throwing a
punch you know what I mean he's
defensively correct as well he's doing
everything and that guy's asleep yeah
out cold one shot yeah I mean he's doing
things technically and he's doing things
like hyper aggressively like at the same
time yeah he's an unusual dude he's a
very unusual dude chin man they're some
Fierce [ __ ] human beings I heard some
stories about that as well which I'm not
going to go into it's a hard place it's
a very hard place there's a lot of
craziness going on there right now oh
yeah yeah with the Ukraine situation
yeah no no nothing to do with that sadly
I mean that's oh there's more on top of
that yeah apparently so yeah yeah I
don't follow too much of what's going on
in that world but uh I do know that that
it's a war torn place and the when I saw
this uh there's a documentary that
somebody put out a small piece like a
20-minute one on Hamza in his past and
interviewing him and talking about his
childhood and that's how you make a
person like that oh that's it I mean he
comes from a tough place from a tough
place you're going to create tough men I
mean look at him the guy's an absolute
animal and that's why he trains so hard
that guy has I think how many fights
does he have in the UFC now is it four
he's been hit twice yeah and one of them
one significant strike he's taking was
just trying to punch off the guy choking
him out that's not a significant strike
it doesn't even count that's a defensive
get off me I'm about to go unconscious
count yeah that literally doesn't count
no I don't think that should count as a
strike like strikes land like this and
then what he did to yeah no that's not a
punch that's not that's not something we
teach so you can knock a guy out from
your guard I've seen guys youah Hall did
that Uriah Hall had a guy in his guard
and he cracked the guy like this from
the guard and rolled him over and
finished him jack Kevin Holland that's
right Kevin Holland stopped him from the
bottom that's right yeah was crazy Kevin
Holland can crack though he's gonna be
fighting one70 this weekend this weekend
very interesting count against Cowboy
ala very interesting cuz he's
you know maybe a little undiz for 85
when you see a lot of these guys that do
cut a ton of weight like the big guys
like uh like Pereira Michelle Pereira
that guy's huge yeah he said he was
only about 180 I think really yeah yeah
when he was fighting at middleweight
That's crazy cuz I spoke to him on
Wednesday yesterday and he said yeah I
was only about 180 would rock up at at
the fights on so he wasn't cutting much
weight so making 170 is easy for him
very interesting I had him on the
podcast and Travis lutter his coach you
know and Travis said I've never seen
anybody like him really he said he
learned so fast he goes he's such a
special talent and he's just got
ridiculous power remember when he
knocked out waim Buckley he told him
that he had a booger on his nose I
didn't say that one he told him you had
a booger and then he flatlined him I
don't recall that oh watch why haven't I
seen that oh must seen that it was
before Buckley's highlight that that
crazy jump back spinning kick it's uh he
he pointed to him he goes you got you
got a booger on your nose man you I I
I've heard of that but I can't think of
the knockout of the top of my head and
then boom hits him a straight right hand
flat lines nice nice he's fun he's fun
yeah it's going to be a good fight this
weekend he's wild he's uh he talented
and wild and you know he has a hole in
his game and the hole in his game is
wrestling but I think that hole will be
less when he's fighting guys that are
more his size wrestling and he just gets
a little carried away a little too
excited he's off balance at times you
know but so it's just it's a learning
process watch this it points away it
points to
him like as they're standing there I
think he's got a circle around where his
back is against us see here it goes look
right you got a bger in your
nose that's what I love about him he's
always talking he's great I don't know
why oh what a shot yeah I mean that's
serious power man cuz Buckley is [ __ ]
tough and you know he had that uh razak
alhassen fight super super super close
fight last weekend yeah great great
fight and you know for and alhassan can
[ __ ] crack oh yeah I mean that dude
is knockout power oh my God and so the
fact that Holland was able to take him
out with one shot like that is insanely
impressive tall skinnier guys leaner
guys you think they're not going to have
much power but they have a tremendous
frame for it and if you know how to use
it and use the Angles and use that frame
the torque and the rotation Tommy Hearns
yeah yeah you know I I used train with
this guy back in England and he was tall
and skinny as hell oh God what a
nightmare he was [ __ ] nightmare so
yeah skinny guys be careful deal with
the reach of tall guys you know that's
why guys like rockold at 85 was like he
was always a nightmare because he was so
big at 85 and had such a long reach yeah
he was huge yeah poor old Luke is he
coming back like I keep hearing he's
going to Costa he's calling out poo
Costa which I think would be a great
fight for him because that's a big jump
let jump right right back into the deep
Waters deep end straight back in which I
have to respect yeah you got to respect
it but that that's what I expect from a
guy like Luke yeah yeah cuz like you you
know a lot of people like to talk [ __ ]
about him now or laugh at him or
whatever well you used to I did I did
but that was a long time ago that was
2016 that was six years ago you had to
you fought him once he beat you and then
you knocked him out yeah and you won the
title from him so it's like you're even
yeah no exactly you're kind of a little
ahead I'm ahead
I'm ahead for sure I know I know you got
him the last time I got him the last
time I did I did but um yeah I mean he
got knocked off me Yan and who Jo Romero
no shame in those was rough and then y
kisses him afterwards I know I love you
gives him a kiss can you not I've just
been unconscious I don't know where I'm
at right now can you stop kissing me
yeah please yo well when you know when
he first came to the UFC I remember
thinking how the [ __ ] is that guy 185
lbs how that holy [ __ ] look at the size
of this guy even when he would weigh in
I'd be like there's something wrong with
the scale yeah cuz I weigh at the time I
weighed like 195 I'm like how's that
possible how I 10 pounds every what do
you weigh right now Joe same like 195
yeah I'm like that doesn't make any
sense that's ridiculous he's so's aak
he's a freak and then he came in here
once with Joe Diaz and he was in between
fights and he was probably 230 right
[ __ ] doesn't surprise me [ __ ]
gig's no on him when he's in fight shape
yeah did I ever tell you what happened
with him um in Australia he went to
Australia right has a fight I forget who
the fight was um but he had a cracked
orbital um so he they send them the UFC
sends him to the doctor the doctor
examines him and then uh talks to uh the
UFC on the phone and says where did you
find this guy oh really yeah and and he
goes he's amazing right he goes no no no
you don't understand he goes I've been
studying human beings I've been working
on people I've been operating on people
for 50 years he goes I've never seen a
human like him the tendons in his eyes
are three times thicker than a normal
person's wow he said his eye the orbital
bone was already healing by the time he
got to me wow that's crazy he's just a
freak yeah freak of nature a freak of
nature maybe but you also got to wonder
he came out of that Cuban sports program
like who the [ __ ] knows what kind of
experiments they were doing like think
about that no no he's young enough he's
young enough that it was recent enough
that they were experimenting with all
sorts of different anabolic steroids and
performance performance-enhancing drugs
and human growth hormone and children
and all kinds of stuff that they were
doing to try to enhance their athletes
were they actually doing that the
Soviets did it for sure 100% the a lot
of the Eastern block countries did it
and Cuba has always been connected to
the Soviet Union and way shape or form
yeah wow who knows I mean that's crazy
yeah it's an outlandish statement so I
don't want to sit here and say that
because I wouldn't say it no no no but
you know what I mean bisping's just
hating on Romero again he's taking away
all his credibility by saying he was
injected with human growth hormone as a
baby look it could be could be something
way more simple like he had an elite
athlete father and Elite athlete mother
and you know and his TR his ass off and
just that's how he is I mean there are
people that are just lessed genetically
it could be that but you know the story
of Alexander Kellin right I don't know
Alexander Kellin who is like probably
one of the greatest wrestlers if not the
greatest wrestler of all time en nor you
know who he is no I have no idea no you
want to see a bad [ __ ] this guy
was so terrifying he only lost once to
Ruan Gardner and the way he W lost it
was Greco Roman it's just it was a
different time they had changed the
rules and because he had separated his
hands separated his grip it counted as
one point right and that's the way rouan
beat him he beat him by one point okay
so technicality yeah and he was at the
end of his career he'd been wrestling
forever but he would pick guys up they
would that's him that's Kellin wow he
was like 300 lbs and I think he was
somewhere around 64 65 built like a
[ __ ] giant Panther and would hoist
guys up in the air like that that was
his move like guys would flatten
themselves out to try to avoid being
taken down like flattened down on their stomach
and these
350b do that watch him do it because
when he would do it see if he gets a
video of Kellin but he's widely regarded
as one of the most impressive wrestlers
of all time see like see uh See if you
have uh highlights okay so watch he
would do this this is when he was 21
years old at the person look at this
look at the size of this [ __ ]
and everybody was afraid because you
would go for a ride like that boom and
he would just slam you to the ground I
that's not wrestling at that point
that's just come here he's just [ __ ]
I mean it's a crazy like loophole in the
rules like he's able to get his hands
underneath you and just keep dumping you
I mean he's basically beating you up
with the ground yeah no sure smashing
you into the ground everybody terrified
of him I'm not surprised look at the
build on that [ __ ] just
enormous super fluid athlete the way he
moved like flexible and
and just a full range of motion not
stiff at all like a giant Panther did
you see the uh on the opposite end of
the spectrum um that wrestler last week
he's got no legs or one leg and he won a
state championship crazy won a state
amazing my son's feeling sorry for
himself cuz he blew out his ACL I'm like
this guy's got no legs suck it up
problem how do you wrestle that guy
though it's a good question it's a good
question how do you take him down he's
already down exactly and then when you
think I'm not making jok at his expense
no not at his expense but look it's it's
always amazing when someone finds a way
right when someone who has a handicap
like that finds a way it's incred to
utilize what they have and then excels
and exceed and it's amazing it really is
I mean talk about an inspiration and you
have to think when you when you look at
the other wrestler if they're the same
weight the guy has must the upper body
strength must be off the charts he's
moving himself around constantly just
with his arms because when that guy that
child part of May or that young man
should I say was born his parents
weren't thinking this guy's going to be
a wrestler one day and now look at him
winning a state champion you know what I
mean it's just incredible talk
about yeah it's amazing it's amazing
spirit is unbelievable yeah it really is
amazing it really is do you remember uh
there was that guy that was uh fighting
in um the pfl that had one arm oh yeah
Nick new that's right Nick n he fought
on the contender as well yeah yeah yeah
that always pissed me off why no I don't
mean Nick n fighting with one hand
pissed me off but how can you fight with
one hand but you can't fight with one
eye they told you you can't fight no you
can't you can't fight with one eye but
yeah how like I always wanted to ask you
this when was your vision first
compromised was it after the it was
after the vtor fight right it it was the
vtor fight that did it uh and I slowly
started getting our symptoms I was do
doing this a lot in restaurants you know
restaurants are dark some of them I was
like I was doing this you know my
friends would be like oh he's doing that
thing again with his hands I'm like can
you see your hand there if you do that
so but the people are just listening you
have your hand next to your face you're
like moving your fingers around and you
couldn't see it yeah exactly and then by
the end it was like right in front of me
there and I couldn't see and it was at
that point I called the doctor but um I
fought Alan beler after the vtor bfor
fight and then as I say as this was
getting worse and worse and worse called
the doctor and said yeah you got a
detach weter they fixed that it red
detached I got glaucoma it was just just
bad luck one thing after the other
anything that could go wrong with an eye
went wrong
um yeah how did you get to the point
where you're fighting GSP like how how
did you pass this test with great
difficulty lying cheating [ __ ] codes
I [ __ ] lied to so many doctors like I
I I went to England I was doing some uh
work for BT Sport at the time Dana was
trying to help me out because looks like
looked like I wasn't gonna be fighting
you know so I went over there doing some
work for BT Sport and uh you know I was
talking about fighting again and I said
well we want to take you to a doctor of
our choice so I said all right cool
whatever and I'm [ __ ] in my pants you
know and I I I had to do this test where
you look into this thing and there's all
these lights you know and you push a
button when you see the light pop up and
I just [ __ ] I passed it I just
[ __ ] guessed it I'm like you just
guessed it test it and I passed right
and then there was another one they took
me to see another doctor and I went in
and this doctor was an old Indian guy
lovely sweet man and there was a guy in
there like an old war veteran could
hardly walk like about hund and
something years old very eccentric Old
Gentleman and this doctor says I'm just
going to walk this man to the car go
into my office make yourself at home I'm
like [ __ ] get in because I walked in
and the eye test was there it was an old
school one it wasn't a digital one it
was like a triangle you know three sides
to it and all you've got to pass is you
got to have 2200 Vision to pass which is
still clinically blind but on the ey
test it's the big one at the top and
then the two underneath it so still
pretty big so I'm like okay d b e spin
it round c d e so I remembered all three
and uh the doctor doesn't know that I'm
trying to cheat the test he thinks I'm
[ __ ] trying to check on my vision
like a normal person you know what I
mean so he covers up my bad eye first
and he says what can you see d d go
through it all very good and then he
doesn't move it Round And he says okay
what can you see there and that's where
these couple of shitty acting lessons I
had paid off I'm like d c e I'm like
gets a little blurry after that doc if
I'm honest couldn't see a [ __ ] thing
and he's like okay you've passed he said
he said listen um you've passed to fight
he said but I wouldn't fight he said
because if anything happens to your good
eye you're going to go blind and I'm
like oh yeah yeah yeah you're right doc
yeah well I'll give you some thought
I'll maybe I'll talk to my family yeah
oh God what a situation right yeah and I
walked I was like [ __ ] come on cuz he
meant I was back right but of course
then every time you fight you still got
to get checked by a doctor again every
time at the Wes you know so that was
always very very wor worrisome so how
did you pass
those they just didn't check very
good I mean I I had uh I had a code with
Perillo see he always came in with me
and I said right cuz all they've got to
do cuz now this is a prosthetic lens as
you know right and I did I only got this in
in
2018 um so without the prosthetic
lensing it looks awful do you know what
I mean it looks worse now than what it
did back then over time it's
deteriorated and got worse and worse but
I thought all they've got to do is look
at that eye and say right how many
fingers can you see you know so I said
to P I said if it holds up one thing you
go if he holds up two yawn whatever hold
up three we just came up with these
shitty codes you know what I mean wow
but we never had to use it once cuz I
remember once the doctor when you can
see how that eye right I said yeah yeah
of course I can I said I've got all the
paperwork okay cool wow that was it that
was it that was it I was all right sweet
cool yeah very few people would have
still fought at one eye that's usually
the price where most people are not
willing to pay anymore yeah well I just
moved to America bought this stupid big
house that I didn't need I had a lawsuit
going on with my former management which
was completely fabricated the legal fees
were just incredible
incredible
um I just I couldn't quit I had no
choice I had to still fight you know now
life's great but back then I was still
very much financially
struggling uh and yeah all I had well I
had to fight this court case this legal
this law suit and that was costing a
fortune and it's all I knew at that time
that's one of the craziest stories ever
that you won the middleweight title with
one eye yeah and you won it by lying to
the doctors yeah I was terrified I was
terrified the [ __ ] every time I
fought I mean I don't want to say too
much didn't it [ __ ] with your depth
perception though because that's one of
the things that they say all the time
like I'll go and grab that bottle for
example now I'm fine because my brain's
touched it so I know where it's at I can
judge it but but the first time I miss I
miss all the time I'm always misreading
how far something is away do you know
what I mean right um cuz you the depth
perception and everything's in 2D and
then sometimes it can it can [ __ ] with
me a little bit sometimes I start
getting a little I get a little blurry
and like I don't know I get a little
dizzy because it's like sometimes it's
only sometimes that all of a sudden like
whoa I can't [ __ ] figure anything
what about driving like everything
driving's fine but everything's on the
right side yeah you have to turn to see
if someone's next to you the next all
the time yeah if I'm turn changing L I
always have to give it one those right
and turn really far yeah um and I'm
always hitting people in the
face like like and it's always an old
lady oh no the amount of times cuz I'm
very animated I talk with my hands like
for example I'm at a crosswalk in New
York City and I'm in the middle of
telling a story and I'm I'm oh oh my God
I am so sorry and it's like I've gone
like that into someone's face and it's
always a little old lady for some reason
always an old and they look at me like
I'm the biggest [ __ ] on the planet
I'm so sorry I am so sorry oh that's
horrible yeah yeah but um is there any
hope for your eye no no nothing there's
nothing they can do in terms of uh
repair well if you look at that wow it
has gotten worse yeah there's just
nothing there so wow um when I got this
done which changed my life in many ways
to be honest um I was just sick of
looking like that do you know so you
don't see anything out of it no light
nothing if I cover up my good eye and
the lights go on and off the shade of
Blackness changes so it'll go yeah just
ever slightly I can I can tell when the
lights gone on and off that that's it
and there's no replacement lenses or
anything that they can do I saw or I
heard recently that
the they're putting in like robotic eyes
or something like that yeah but I
haven't looked into it yet because you
know two fake knees and a fake eye
imagine imagine if it's better
oh no I know could you imagine I'm
[ __ ] back let's
go I'm back one more for the
road two fake knees stepping into the
Octagon that would be wild fake knees
and a fake eye I think they have a an
electronic eye that they've created that
offers Superior vision and I think I
don't think it I think it's just in the
testing phases now but see if you can
find that yeah Jamie it's I'm pretty
sure that it is superior to uh normal
eyesight and the way that it interacts
with the brain I don't understand I
don't know how it like interacts with
the optic nerves and the signals that it
sends yeah no I'm sure it is better you
know with the technology that they have
one day yeah no absolutely that's why I
retired though because the doctor said
you know and they always said you know
if something goes wrong with your good
eye you'll go blind but didn't after one
of your fights you did have some we
talked about this before the last one
the gastan fight cuz I I was always
cocky you know lightning struck a lot of
people have fight careers and don't lose
an eye you know so Lightning's already
struck Lightning's not going to strike
twice and then after the Kelvin gastan
fight we went to uh an Afterparty and I
was sitting there and every time I look
left and then look back I just have a
flash of light and every time I did it
again every time a flash of light I'm
sitting in this bar and every was
dancing and having a good time and stuff
you know and I'm I'm starting to cry I'm
starting to well up you know cuz I'm
like I'm going to go [ __ ] blind even
if they repair the air there the eyes
part of me I'm still going to go blind
while for a month or two while it's
healing you know which is a scary
concept so anyway I'm starting to cry
and I can tell and I'm like [ __ ] I don't
want people to see me crying a because
I'm a proud man but B because people are
going to think because I just lost a
fight oh bless him look he's upset right
so I could give a [ __ ] about losing a
fight you know what I mean I'm going to
go blind so anyway I rushed out the room
I said I was going to the toilet rushed
out the the the the party and went back
to my room and then pillo and da moris
friend of mine came back to my room and
you know we had a few drinks and forgot
all about it had a crazy night in
Shanghai came to on an airplane flying
home and I I sat up I'm like oh God I
need to drink of water I said excuse me
to the air hostess and then when I look
there and when I look back flash a light
again I'm like [ __ ] [ __ ] cuz I forgotten
all about it you know what I mean but
yeah that was a vitous Detachment so it
wasn't a detached W fortunately so but
then that that was it I'm like right
that's enough now yeah uh how many guys
do you know that have eye issues from
fighting Jason pillo my coach fnally
enough detached reer yeah he was a
undefeated professional boxer and
detached his reer but that was you know
Medical Science come a long way since
then the first time I'd ever heard about
it was Sugar Ray Leonard remember oh
really yeah Sugar Ray Leonard had a
detach retina that's why he retired and
then he had one fight a comeback fight
um he was going to fight Marvin Haggler
and he had a comeback fight and got
dropped in the comeback fight I forget
the gentleman he fought but he got he
got hit with a good shot and dropped and
got up and stopped the guy and then he
said uh after that he's he he had like
this uh press conference he said I'm
done right I think I I believe he said
it in the ring I think he got in the
ring he had like a big event and then
announced that he was retiring he's
never going to fight again and then he
decided a couple years later I believe
it was he was going to come back and
just fight Haggler oh really he came
back fought Haggler won that fight and
then had a bunch of other
fights yeah yeah you can do it you know
I mean it's just hard just it changes
everything because when I used to
spar um a lot of the time you hit in
fresh air until you actually touch them
like I said before with that water
bottle you actually my brain said okay
now I've got to gauge on how far it is
and then I'd be fine and then for
fortunately for me it was my lead eye I
stand Orthodox where if it was this way
that would be my dominant eye because
this can still see almost 180 degrees
now yeah that'd be a real problem if you
Orthodox with a left eye bad yeah but
it's still crazy that you were so
successful with one eye I mean how many
fights did you have with one eye about
10 I think Mike that's so nuts yeah
that's so nuts 10 fights with one eye
that is so [ __ ] crazy yeah and you
won the title I onon the belt see that
was the thing when I lost a Rocko that
first time I was blind in the ring
because what happened was on my final
day flying to Australia in the training
camp uh I was about to kamora somebody
and he [ __ ] KN me in the face on the
floor to get out of the submissions one
of my training Partners opened up a big
gash in in my eye and when I got to
Australia I had stitches above my good
eye obviously blinding the other ey and
uh I remember day of the fight we're
walking into the arena in Australia and
as I was walking in someone from the UFC
comes running over Michael Michael
Michael the doctor needs to see you
immediately I'm like what's going on
something to do with your eye and I'm
like oh God because the stress of
fighting with one eye and cheating on
all these tests was just unbelievable
I'm like I'm going to get [ __ ]
rumbled at any time do you know what I
mean and like something to do with your
eye I'm like oh God here we go that's it
I've done my training camp flown to
Australia I'm going to get yanked from
the fight and I walking to see the
doctor I'm like what's wrong he says
yeah you've got stitches in your eye
mate you can't [ __ ] fight with
stitches in your eye and he just wanted
to take the stitches out the good eye I
was like there we go dodged another
bullet but then he just took the
stitches out and it's good to go took
the stitches out and then in the fight
with rockold when we started after the
first minute or so he headbutted me
accidental who knows I like to think it
wasn't but he headbutted me and he
started pissing blood into my eye oh no
yeah into your good eye into my good eye
so it was like if you take a can of
paint put it onto a windshield and put
the windscreen WIP on it's going to just
be right it's going to smudge you know
so everything was red and I wiped my eye
and I could kind of see again then blood
would come in and it' all go red so I'd
wipe my eye and then at some point when
I was doing that I I guess I got kicked
in the head I had no [ __ ] idea well
he used a um question mark kick too that
was earlier in the fight oh was it it
was a beautiful kick he hit me with but
I didn't see it coming and then he
choked me out and concious no no excuse
well Guillotine no no excuse for that
one but uh that's why that was so hard
to take cuz I couldn't say anything do
you know what I mean CU otherwise I'd be
rumbled of course you know I I had to
just swallow that one so that one hurt
so that's why I always wanted to fight
him again because I knew I could do
better you you know what I mean
obviously of course that's my excuse but
it's true well it's true I mean and then
the vtor thing is a strange situation
because what vtor did was technically
legal but everybody knows it's
cheating right like vtor was on trt
but he was on probably a superum doses
well we know we know he got tested
remember he was one of the reasons why
trt was removed because they tested vtor
and uh I forget which event it was and
he was off the charts yeah and his
excuse was that he had showed up um he
was going to be in America for like a
week and a half so he took like a large
dose oh really so that because he
couldn't take you know his second dose
or HISD you know whatever it was I see
whatever I forget exactly how he said it
but I remember when they looked at the
levels they're like this is not just
testosterone replacement this is for
sure super physiological this is like
not what a normal person ever has in
terms of this range of hormones in your
system and when VOR would fight back
then he was a [ __ ] Berserker oh he
was great I mean because he was already
a very good fighter very good fighter
and just super Juiced I mean he was just
so aggressive and so ripped man yeah I
mean that runy went on down in Brazil
that [ __ ] frin aay myself rockold
yeah no it was crazy that was the the
Juiced vtor that was the trt vtor people
to this day they talk about like there's
certain Fighters like there was a moment
you know where a few fights and trt vtor
is one that people always bring up oh
yeah yeah I mean all I thought about
then though was Anderson Silva pulled it
off though but he didn't but that wasn't
trt vtor was it no you look at what pull
up vtor versus Anderson Silva physically
looked very different very different
like even when he fought Franklin he
looked very different yeah he he was he
was like a bodybuilder he looked like he
looked like a body F rockold when he
fought rockold and wheel kicked him in
the head he had muscles on his teeth
yeah I mean they're [ __ ] everywhere
they on his eyebrows are muscled it was
he was [ __ ] gigantic he was just
shredded just veins everywhere and he
looked terrifying that's when he shaved
the side of his heads and he just he was
a wild [ __ ] then [ __ ] PSY and
I mean everything look it see that's him
when he fought Anderson oh you're right
yeah he's very lean though yeah look at
the the image of him getting kicked in
the face did not look like the vtor
versus rockold that was him off of
steroids and then coming back into like
very different man if you look at his
body coming out of uh you know fighting
in overseas he had fought a lot in Pride
and but then well look at vtor versus
rockold well there's that side by side
look that up oh that's the crazy one
that's postada that's that's when he fought
fought widman
widman
Gast I'm gonna have to run the bathroom
yeah go ahead brother go ahead go ahead
we'll take a break ladies and gentlemen
we'll be right back we're back ladies
and gentlemen so let's let's see the L
uh Luke rockold vtor versus Luke rockold
it's kind of crazy when you think about
the early days of fighting because in
the early days of uh MMA [ __ ] half
the people were Juiced if not more they
were they were a lot of them I mean look
at him the difference between the image
of how he looked pull up the the photo
of him giving rockold that wheel kick
the one right next to that one look at
that I mean come on son he's [ __ ]
shredded yeah but uh the documentary
that I've got coming out you talk about
it on there and you say some very very
good words well you know what you have
done in your career is what it was very
extraordinary and it was extraordinary
not just from the sense of the
accomplishments like there's a lot of
great wins that you had um Kung Lee
Mayhem Miller there's a there's a bunch
of wins where you just like dominated
these guys with your pace and your
endurance but it was your grit man your
mental fortitude because you're a great
fighter and a great athlete but there's
not a thing that stands out about you
other than your mind and your toughness
and which is like really the thing that
a man should be most proud of because if
you're born with like incredible power
or unbelievable speed or you just you're
just an enormous person I mean that
that's a giant advantage over everybody
your advantage was just your mind it's
an amazing thing and it cost you your
knees yeah you know because that
toughness made you train through your
knee injuries yeah well thank you Joe I
appreciate that it's very kind of you to
say thank you um never felt like it to
me though never felt like I was making
some sacrifice or doing you know or like
I was you know showing a lot of mental
strength or willpower or whatever for me
I'm just trying to win a fight you know
just trying to provide for my family and
do everything I can to give them the
best life which sounds there guys that
have no quit you don't have any quit you
got no quit the Anderson Silver fight is
a great example of that when you got hit
with that flying knee you were trying to
point to your
mouthpiece [ __ ] eye because the eye
because I'm looking at you here if I go
there you don't exist to me right so my
mouthpiece came out and then [ __ ]
herb D I'm like I'm backing up you
trying to say herb give me my [ __ ]
mouth I turn I go my mouthpiece herb and
then I look back and and this Sil in mid
out and hits me and uh yeah and he
walked away he thought it was over yeah
well as I hit the deck beep the round
finished so herb jumped in to be fair to
Anderson it probably looked in his mind
like he just knocked me out yes and Herb
stopped the fight so he started
celebrating all hell brought loose I'm
on the floor I remember I'm all crumbled
up on the floor blood pouring out of my
face and I look up at her I say I'm not
out and he says yep fight's still on and
uh but Anderson was was uh celebrating
so I wasn't unconscious but I was
definitely down but then you came back
and won the next round yeah yeah Mike
that was crazy it was tough it was tough
I get seen by a cupman because of the
pandemonium where where did that fight
take place London I don't believe I was
there for that no I'm pretty sure I was
at home screaming yeah I remember
watching that but I'll never forget
watching that screaming yeah like he won
the next [ __ ] round yeah it was
difficult it was difficult [ __ ] dude you
were out I mean for at least a half a
second you were probably I mean you know
how it is when you get hit with a good
one it's always the same flash light
flash of light and then you know you're
like oh [ __ ] I'm back here I am that
minute in between was all it took I've
been there many times like when I fought
akiyama I remember he he came out boom
hit me with a huge right hand which I
didn't see coming and then all same
thing flash of light the thing and then
and then you don't know where you are
and then you come to and you're like oh
I'm in a [ __ ] octagon there's 20,000
people standing around watching this get
your [ __ ] together pretend that you're
fine and then you know 30 seconds or so
you get on your bike you use your
footwork you dance around a little bit
and then there it is there it is oh yeah
and one of the most impressive uh
examples of you and your resolve was the
second fight that you had with Dan
Henderson oh yeah cuz you got clipped in
that fight and you could see your gear spinning like not today [ __ ] oh
spinning like not today [ __ ] oh yeah like I am not going to lose the
yeah like I am not going to lose the same way there's no [ __ ] way I'm
same way there's no [ __ ] way I'm going to let that guy knock me out again
going to let that guy knock me out again well because obviously if you're
well because obviously if you're fighting Dan Henderson the whole game
fighting Dan Henderson the whole game plan is avoid the right hand you know
plan is avoid the right hand you know what I mean but like my old boxing coach
what I mean but like my old boxing coach used to say you don't go in the rain
used to say you don't go in the rain without getting wet he's built a career
without getting wet he's built a career on that right hand he's going to land it
on that right hand he's going to land it probably wild yeah it's wild when
probably wild yeah it's wild when someone has like one weapon that's so
someone has like one weapon that's so [ __ ] powerful you know cuz it's like
[ __ ] powerful you know cuz it's like I mean I think he hurt Hector Lumbard
I mean I think he hurt Hector Lumbard with a left too and then he High kicked
with a left too and then he High kicked him didn't he well no he koed him with
him didn't he well no he koed him with an elbow I believe boom and then came
an elbow I believe boom and then came back like that yeah yeah yeah but I
back like that yeah yeah yeah but I think he High kicked him too right I'm
think he High kicked him too right I'm not sure yeah I was warming up I fought
not sure yeah I was warming up I fought on the same night yeah yeah it's uh but
on the same night yeah yeah it's uh but that fight too that was another example
that fight too that was another example of your resolve the fact that you got
of your resolve the fact that you got rocked and you still figured out a way
rocked and you still figured out a way to win that fight well thank you and the
to win that fight well thank you and the storm he shattered my orbital in that
storm he shattered my orbital in that one did in the first round yeah so the
one did in the first round yeah so the good eye or the bad eye good eye oh Jes
good eye or the bad eye good eye oh Jes the good eyee there's there's pictures
the good eyee there's there's pictures online and you see my my cheek is out
online and you see my my cheek is out here and in the fourth and fifth round
here and in the fourth and fifth round there it is yeah I couldn't see out of
there it is yeah I couldn't see out of my good eye I mean I could if I moved
my good eye I mean I could if I moved around a little bit mov my head around a
around a little bit mov my head around a touch I could just kind of see a little
touch I could just kind of see a little slit of him a little angle of him so
slit of him a little angle of him so yeah that last that last couple of
yeah that last that last couple of rounds was bad and then I remember I got
rounds was bad and then I remember I got back to the hotel and the swelling got
back to the hotel and the swelling got so bad the actual eyes shut and I
so bad the actual eyes shut and I couldn't see and that that that was kind
couldn't see and that that that was kind of scary I was in the shower and was
of scary I was in the shower and was crying a little bit you know cuz you go
crying a little bit you know cuz you go blind it's kind of scary but yeah after
blind it's kind of scary but yeah after about a minute or saw some ice on it it
about a minute or saw some ice on it it went down power is such a crazy thing
went down power is such a crazy thing like you you can't figure out who has it
like you you can't figure out who has it and who does it and why they have it why
and who does it and why they have it why they don't yeah it is crazy like that I
they don't yeah it is crazy like that I mean yes you can train it you can work
mean yes you can train it you can work technique you can get better
technique you can get better Jamal Hill the guy I mean crazy it's
Jamal Hill the guy I mean crazy it's wild his power is outstanding it's just
wild his power is outstanding it's just wild it's wild how hard he hits he
wild it's wild how hard he hits he doesn't look like a guy that's going to
doesn't look like a guy that's going to pack A- punch like either you know what
pack A- punch like either you know what I mean God damn he does very oh my God
I mean God damn he does very oh my God what he hit Johnny Walker with he just
what he hit Johnny Walker with he just went stiff flying backwards all his
went stiff flying backwards all his fight other than Paul Paul Craig OSP KN
fight other than Paul Paul Craig OSP KN Paul Craig has just got a nasty guard
Paul Craig has just got a nasty guard man but here's the thing about Hill what
man but here's the thing about Hill what a great attitude he has there's a video
a great attitude he has there's a video of him
of him with Paul Craig after that fight they're
with Paul Craig after that fight they're dancing having a good time together I
dancing having a good time together I had Jamal Hill on my podcast last week
had Jamal Hill on my podcast last week and he's he's got some funny stories
and he's he's got some funny stories he's a funny guy man he was funny like
he's a funny guy man he was funny like talking about like when people were like
talking about like when people were like dismissing like cha was dismissing the
dismissing like cha was dismissing the shot he hit Walker with saying wasn't
shot he hit Walker with saying wasn't that big of a shot he's like come on it
that big of a shot he's like come on it looked like a big shot Johnny Walker was
looked like a big shot Johnny Walker was unconscious on the floor how could you
unconscious on the floor how could you say it's not a big shot come on he
say it's not a big shot come on he caught him coming in he hit him perfect
caught him coming in he hit him perfect he hit him right above the temple like
he hit him right above the temple like right there the guy stiff up immediately
right there the guy stiff up immediately and flies backwards Jamal was telling
and flies backwards Jamal was telling some stories his street fighting days
some stories his street fighting days like taking on nine guys at once and
like taking on nine guys at once and stuff yeah he's got some wild stories
stuff yeah he's got some wild stories there's a you remember Mike McDonald
there's a you remember Mike McDonald that um uh the kid who used to fight at
that um uh the kid who used to fight at bantamweight Canadian I don't think he
bantamweight Canadian I don't think he was Canadian I want to say he was like
was Canadian I want to say he was like from Northern California okay but he was
from Northern California okay but he was very slight looking guy like didn't look
very slight looking guy like didn't look like a physically imposing guy and would
like a physically imposing guy and would just Merk [ __ ] just one punch
just Merk [ __ ] just one punch KO power it was crazy it was like where
KO power it was crazy it was like where is it coming from yeah no it is wild
is it coming from yeah no it is wild like like Jason pillo he's a skinny
like like Jason pillo he's a skinny little guy I don't know what he weighs
little guy I don't know what he weighs probably 150 160 tops you want to see
probably 150 160 tops you want to see that guy hit a bag it's crazy it's crazy
that guy hit a bag it's crazy it's crazy how hard he hits yeah powers are just
how hard he hits yeah powers are just it's such a strange thing as I say you
it's such a strange thing as I say you can get better at it you can work the
can get better at it you can work the technique but there's like a god-given
technique but there's like a god-given ability that some people have where they
ability that some people have where they just they for whatever reason they just
just they for whatever reason they just have this ability to hit so much harder
have this ability to hit so much harder than everybody else it's it's like do
than everybody else it's it's like do you remember I don't know how much
you remember I don't know how much boxing did you did you ever watch a lot
boxing did you did you ever watch a lot of boxing back in the day yeah yeah I
of boxing back in the day yeah yeah I mean the big ones the big big ones you
mean the big ones the big big ones you know but uh I never really watched much
know but uh I never really watched much Sports to be hon did you ever see Julian
Sports to be hon did you ever see Julian Jackson no Julian Jackson was a guy like
Jackson no Julian Jackson was a guy like that where his K were so crazy like you
that where his K were so crazy like you hit guys and they would just go like
hit guys and they would just go like while they're standing up to just
while they're standing up to just stiffen up and fall flat backwards like
stiffen up and fall flat backwards like yeah yeah he knocked out so he knocked
yeah yeah he knocked out so he knocked out Terry Norris he knocked out so many
out Terry Norris he knocked out so many like Elite Fighters when Julian Jackson
like Elite Fighters when Julian Jackson would connect on guys and again he
would connect on guys and again he looked like like a great athlete he
looked like like a great athlete he looked like you know weight uh 160 I
looked like you know weight uh 160 I believe Jackson I believe he was a
believe Jackson I believe he was a middleweight but it was just the one
middleweight but it was just the one punch KO power that was just insane and
punch KO power that was just insane and everyone knew about it everyone was
everyone knew about it everyone was terrified of him cuz he and he would hit
terrified of him cuz he and he would hit you with like the little short shots and
you with like the little short shots and guys would just go crazy as you say
guys would just go crazy as you say god-given you know I'm not a religious
god-given you know I'm not a religious guy but we'll use that that's that just
guy but we'll use that that's that just a roll of the dice and this guy some
a roll of the dice and this guy some guy's got a giant dick you know he's
guy's got a giant dick you know he's he's got crazy
he's got crazy KO watch this guy this tiny little dick
KO watch this guy this tiny little dick and no punching power this is him
and no punching power this is him against Terry Norris who was Elite at
against Terry Norris who was Elite at the time look at that oh I mean you see
the time look at that oh I mean you see like he's stiff in in the air from the
like he's stiff in in the air from the first shot from the first spot watch
first shot from the first spot watch this again watch the stiffness I mean
this again watch the stiffness I mean he's gone boom look at that gone that's
he's gone boom look at that gone that's amazing I mean his his brain shut off
amazing I mean his his brain shut off from that first punch and he just hasn't
from that first punch and he just hasn't his body hasn't figured it out yet and
his body hasn't figured it out yet and then he hits him with two more on the
then he hits him with two more on the way down I mean there's a highlight reel
way down I mean there's a highlight reel of Julian Jackson that is [ __ ] insane
of Julian Jackson that is [ __ ] insane oh can imagine yeah 10 Julian Jackson
oh can imagine yeah 10 Julian Jackson Knockouts to watch before you die oh my
Knockouts to watch before you die oh my God he was amazing I want to say this is
God he was amazing I want to say this is the probably was it the 90s Jamie does
the probably was it the 90s Jamie does it say does it say what yeah 89 so right
it say does it say what yeah 89 so right Terry Norris was a good one Harold
Terry Norris was a good one Harold Graham was a good one he [ __ ] Harold
Graham was a good one he [ __ ] Harold Graham up too I mean he was just he this
Graham up too I mean he was just he this was a good one too because he was
was a good one too because he was stepping back in the haral Graham fight
stepping back in the haral Graham fight and I think he was losing that fight and
and I think he was losing that fight and watch this watch this KO because it is
watch this watch this KO because it is [ __ ] wild Harold Graham moves for it
[ __ ] wild Harold Graham moves for it backing up watch
backing up watch this bam boom wow that kind of [ __ ] and
this bam boom wow that kind of [ __ ] and that's how you know you got real power
that's how you know you got real power and you can do it going backwards yeah I
and you can do it going backwards yeah I mean he did that to everybody everybody
mean he did that to everybody everybody he hit clean went night look at that guy
he hit clean went night look at that guy crazy doesn't know what day it is and
crazy doesn't know what day it is and that's that kind of like weird gift that
that's that kind of like weird gift that some guys have I mean if you look at a
some guys have I mean if you look at a Francis enanu he has power like that but
Francis enanu he has power like that but but it's obvious it makes sense it makes
but it's obvious it makes sense it makes sense if you're going to pick someone
sense if you're going to pick someone that's got punch power yeah it's going
that's got punch power yeah it's going to be Francis inano every time but when
to be Francis inano every time but when you're looking at someone who's 160
you're looking at someone who's 160 pound kind of a lean of frame and they
pound kind of a lean of frame and they can still do that that's where it gets
can still do that that's where it gets really interesting yeah no it's it's
really interesting yeah no it's it's crazy it's crazy as how some people just
crazy it's crazy as how some people just have it I'm I'm really hoping that Dana
have it I'm I'm really hoping that Dana and Francis come to some sort of an
and Francis come to some sort of an agreement and they let Francis box Tyson
agreement and they let Francis box Tyson Fury that's what I'm hoping I want the
Fury that's what I'm hoping I want the man to get that giant crazy Conor
man to get that giant crazy Conor McGregor style payday me too me too and
McGregor style payday me too me too and for the payday it'd be great I mean I
for the payday it'd be great I mean I don't I wouldn't fancy him in the fight
don't I wouldn't fancy him in the fight with respect to Francis inar that's not
with respect to Francis inar that's not someone I want to piss off but uh listen
someone I want to piss off but uh listen I would not want to piss him off either
I would not want to piss him off either I want him to get the opportunity to get
I want him to get the opportunity to get a lot of money 100% but if you looked at
a lot of money 100% but if you looked at who he's boxing I mean Tyson Fury is one
who he's boxing I mean Tyson Fury is one of the most skillful boxers ever he's
of the most skillful boxers ever he's unbelievable who just happens to be 6'9
unbelievable who just happens to be 6'9 6'9 84 in Ridge I think and and crazy
6'9 84 in Ridge I think and and crazy light on his feet have you seen how fast
light on his feet have you seen how fast he is my God balls of steel as well you
he is my God balls of steel as well you know what I mean what he did against
know what I mean what he did against Deontay Wilder when he got dropped in
Deontay Wilder when he got dropped in that first one yeah and this he got up
that first one yeah and this he got up and I thought he's going to dance around
and I thought he's going to dance around he's going to stay away he won the round
he's going to stay away he won the round forward pressed the action he got
forward pressed the action he got dropped almost knocked unconscious got
dropped almost knocked unconscious got up and won the rest of the round which
up and won the rest of the round which is crazy well that's why in the
is crazy well that's why in the rematch he knew what to do he knew what
rematch he knew what to do he knew what to do because he said I I walked him
to do because he said I I walked him down after that because I had no choice
down after that because I had no choice he said if backed up he might have got
he said if backed up he might have got me again so I had say [ __ ] this and go
me again so I had say [ __ ] this and go forward and then he realized that guy
forward and then he realized that guy doesn't fight that good backing up
doesn't fight that good backing up correct and then he put it on him but
correct and then he put it on him but even in the second the third fight
even in the second the third fight rather so he beats him knocks him out in
rather so he beats him knocks him out in the second fight and then he had all
the second fight and then he had all kinds of crazy excuses his costume was
kinds of crazy excuses his costume was too heavy he got poisoned fired his
too heavy he got poisoned fired his train I hate it too I hate it yeah but
train I hate it too I hate it yeah but then he fights him in the second the
then he fights him in the second the third fight rather and in the third
third fight rather and in the third fight he gets dropped again and gets
fight he gets dropped again and gets dropped hard like and dropped twice in
dropped hard like and dropped twice in you mean no yeah Tyson did yeah yeah
you mean no yeah Tyson did yeah yeah yeah and then eventually but puts him
yeah and then eventually but puts him out like where there's no if ends or
out like where there's no if ends or butts about it when when Fury put him
butts about it when when Fury put him out at the end of the fight like you
out at the end of the fight like you there can be no doubt like yeah I mean I
there can be no doubt like yeah I mean I hate it when Fighters do that when they
hate it when Fighters do that when they come out and they got all these excuses
come out and they got all these excuses I mean that was bad from Deontay wild it
I mean that was bad from Deontay wild it was talking about the costume and his
was talking about the costume and his legs were weak and Tyson Fury said when
legs were weak and Tyson Fury said when he knocked him out that his his elbow
he knocked him out that his his elbow was so [ __ ] up before that fight that
was so [ __ ] up before that fight that he couldn't even hit pads Tyson's elbow
he couldn't even hit pads Tyson's elbow yeah like if he missed the pads it would
yeah like if he missed the pads it would be in excruciating pain yeah so yeah cuz
be in excruciating pain yeah so yeah cuz me and Tyson we had a not a bit of beef
me and Tyson we had a not a bit of beef we went back and forth on social media a
we went back and forth on social media a long time ago cuz we're from similar
long time ago cuz we're from similar part of the world you know and uh after
part of the world you know and uh after that Deontay wildera I had no choice but
that Deontay wildera I had no choice but to send him a DM saying wow you have my
to send him a DM saying wow you have my respect you know cuz uh he's uh you're
respect you know cuz uh he's uh you're some of the Gypsy Community there's a
some of the Gypsy Community there's a lot of gypsies where I'm from and uh
lot of gypsies where I'm from and uh apparently on Twitter but I lived in
apparently on Twitter but I lived in America at the time H Tyson was saying I
America at the time H Tyson was saying I got knocked out by Gypsy John outside of
got knocked out by Gypsy John outside of nightclub in Blackburn he's like oh you
nightclub in Blackburn he's like oh you don't talk about one M talk about you
don't talk about one M talk about you getting knocked outside a nightclub I'm
getting knocked outside a nightclub I'm like what are you talking about I live
like what are you talking about I live in America but uh yeah even still just a
in America but uh yeah even still just a madeup story yeah just a madeup story
madeup story yeah just a madeup story yeah yeah but uh even after that fight I
yeah yeah but uh even after that fight I I had to message him and said wow
I had to message him and said wow incredible it was incredible he's so
incredible it was incredible he's so unusual because of the length and the
unusual because of the length and the height but also the movement for such a
height but also the movement for such a big guy and he doesn't he's another guy
big guy and he doesn't he's another guy like you look at him he doesn't look
like you look at him he doesn't look like a elite athlete he got all that
like a elite athlete he got all that back fat it's always like big love
back fat it's always like big love handles he's not what you call an
handles he's not what you call an athletic specimen no no that's part of
athletic specimen no no that's part of what's scary about him like he takes his
what's scary about him like he takes his shirt off he doesn't give a [ __ ] doesn't
shirt off he doesn't give a [ __ ] doesn't give a there that picture isn't there it
give a there that picture isn't there it shows somebody really in shape and then
shows somebody really in shape and then there's one of Tyson F the elite
there's one of Tyson F the elite heavyweight athlete or something Tyson F
heavyweight athlete or something Tyson F belly is gigantic he's got a pizza in
belly is gigantic he's got a pizza in his hand the beer it's brilliant love it
his hand the beer it's brilliant love it well he talks about how like he would go
well he talks about how like he would go out at night and drink [ __ ] pints and
out at night and drink [ __ ] pints and pints of beer and then in the morning
pints of beer and then in the morning [ __ ] everybody up yeah exactly it's
[ __ ] everybody up yeah exactly it's crazy that good yeah it's skill too it's
crazy that good yeah it's skill too it's like he learned the skill of of how to
like he learned the skill of of how to put Knuckles on someone's face and it's
put Knuckles on someone's face and it's like it's but this the the skill is
like it's but this the the skill is evident I mean the faints that he uses I
evident I mean the faints that he uses I mean against klitch car I don't know if
mean against klitch car I don't know if you saw that one I mean it just faints
you saw that one I mean it just faints constantly constantly and you don't know
constantly constantly and you don't know how hard that is to do that
how hard that is to do that cardiovascular The Strain that that puts
cardiovascular The Strain that that puts on those cuz they're short the only
on those cuz they're short the only micro micr movements you know what I
micro micr movements you know what I mean but they're explosive little
mean but they're explosive little movements cuz you got to sell the faint
movements cuz you got to sell the faint and to do that for 12 rounds you know
and to do that for 12 rounds you know with a body that size and then of course
with a body that size and then of course with the output on top of that it's not
with the output on top of that it's not an easy thing to do and then sing
an easy thing to do and then sing afterwards oh yeah yeah yeah yeah no
afterwards oh yeah yeah yeah yeah no he's quite the
he's quite the showman he's such a character he's such
showman he's such a character he's such a I love that guy I I [ __ ] love him
a I love that guy I I [ __ ] love him and I really I I know that usyk is
and I really I I know that usyk is supposed to fight Joshua I mean who
supposed to fight Joshua I mean who knows what's going to happen now cuz
knows what's going to happen now cuz usyk is literally fighting the Russians
usyk is literally fighting the Russians in Ukraine oh I know I mean him lchen
in Ukraine oh I know I mean him lchen lenko
lenko Vladimir all of them God bless those
Vladimir all of them God bless those guys that's amazing crazy in those are
guys that's amazing crazy in those are real Warriors [ __ ] yeah I mean they
real Warriors [ __ ] yeah I mean they didn't hesitate everything into
didn't hesitate everything into perspective yeah you think you got
perspective yeah you think you got problems you think if you got [ __ ]
problems you think if you got [ __ ] 200,000 Russians at your doorstep with
200,000 Russians at your doorstep with tanks and warships and helicopters and
tanks and warships and helicopters and all that [ __ ] [ __ ] me that whole scene
all that [ __ ] [ __ ] me that whole scene is so horrible and who knows how that
is so horrible and who knows how that plays out I mean it's so it's such a
plays out I mean it's so it's such a scary time well Putin's kind of backed
scary time well Putin's kind of backed into a corner isn't it exactly you know
into a corner isn't it exactly you know what I mean he's got to do something
what I mean he's got to do something that's why he's what did he put the
that's why he's what did he put the nuclear threat on high or whatever it
nuclear threat on high or whatever it was well they sent bombers to see if you
was well they sent bombers to see if you can find this they sent Putin sent um
can find this they sent Putin sent um Hypersonic nuclear capable bombers to
Hypersonic nuclear capable bombers to Venezuela so these bombers are
Venezuela so these bombers are essentially on our door why Venezuela
essentially on our door why Venezuela because it's close to us oh really yeah
because it's close to us oh really yeah because it's close enough to us to I
because it's close enough to us to I mean essentially this is what I've been
mean essentially this is what I've been reading about this and watching videos
reading about this and watching videos about this for the last few months or
about this for the last few months or the last few weeks rather and uh what
the last few weeks rather and uh what this is all about for the most part is
this is all about for the most part is NATO and Ukraine here's so 2018 Russian
NATO and Ukraine here's so 2018 Russian nuclear air capable bomber aircraft
nuclear air capable bomber aircraft fried to Venezuela so they've been doing
fried to Venezuela so they've been doing it since then oh wow so they've had them
it since then oh wow so they've had them there forever so he sent these
there forever so he sent these supersonic nuclear bombers back then so
supersonic nuclear bombers back then so is is that where the footage is coming
is is that where the footage is coming from that it's not coming from more
from that it's not coming from more recent footage a lot of that stuff has
recent footage a lot of that stuff has been
been wow being repopulated now I guess would
wow being repopulated now I guess would be a way to say that oh I see how Wild
be a way to say that oh I see how Wild is that so he was sending these
is that so he was sending these supersonic I didn't even know he had
supersonic I didn't even know he had supersonic nuclear bombers four years
supersonic nuclear bombers four years ago what the [ __ ] a supersonic nuclear
ago what the [ __ ] a supersonic nuclear bomber well it's a bomber that is
bomber well it's a bomber that is capable of flying faster than speed of
capable of flying faster than speed of sound which is terrifying terrifying
sound which is terrifying terrifying yeah I mean those guys there I mean just
yeah I mean those guys there I mean just civilians picking up guns in the street
civilians picking up guns in the street and fighting the Russians I mean that is
and fighting the Russians I mean that is wild
wild and a lot of those people that we just
and a lot of those people that we just mentioned they have a way to escape they
mentioned they have a way to escape they they can leave but they're saying no
they can leave but they're saying no [ __ ] that we're staying and fighting and
[ __ ] that we're staying and fighting and it's it's it's so inspirational it's so
it's it's it's so inspirational it's so scary I mean I I heard my wife told me
scary I mean I I heard my wife told me yesterday the orphanages they're really
yesterday the orphanages they're really suffering because the workers have just
suffering because the workers have just left oh Jes so there's kids orphans
left oh Jes so there's kids orphans alone in orphanages with no one taking
alone in orphanages with no one taking care of them do you know what I mean
care of them do you know what I mean it's just it's so messed up in this day
it's just it's so messed up in this day and age in this day and age it's just
and age in this day and age it's just crazy oh man yeah and where does this go
crazy oh man yeah and where does this go I mean what happens if China decides to
I mean what happens if China decides to invade Taiwan right while this is
invade Taiwan right while this is happening and then we got World War III
happening and then we got World War III yeah that's it's possible you know I
yeah that's it's possible you know I mean who knows North Korea China and
mean who knows North Korea China and Russia you know it's a wild time wild
Russia you know it's a wild time wild time indeed but it's a wild time and you
time indeed but it's a wild time and you know like we were talking about with uh
know like we were talking about with uh hamzat people that come out of that that
hamzat people that come out of that that kind of struggle and from that Meme
kind of struggle and from that Meme isn't there have you seen that Meme
isn't there have you seen that Meme that's going around these kids these
that's going around these kids these Russians grew up wrestling Bears doing
Russians grew up wrestling Bears doing this I don't know a bunch of tough
this I don't know a bunch of tough stuff we have grown men doing [ __ ]
stuff we have grown men doing [ __ ] Tik Tock
Tik Tock dances like yeah we're going to set this
dances like yeah we're going to set this hold on let me find it my mate sent it
hold on let me find it my mate sent it to me I think there's enough Savages in
to me I think there's enough Savages in America that that you know kind of bces
America that that you know kind of bces out no for sure for sure absolutely but
out no for sure for sure absolutely but there's a lot of [ __ ] Russia has
there's a lot of [ __ ] Russia has soldiers who box trees and wrestle bears
soldiers who box trees and wrestle bears and kids talk weapon handling in schools
and kids talk weapon handling in schools we've got grown men dancing on Tik Tok
we've got grown men dancing on Tik Tok and men who were scared of telling their
and men who were scared of telling their girlfriends that they're out at the pub
girlfriends that they're out at the pub we think I think we'll sit this one out
we think I think we'll sit this one out but it's [ __ ] true it's true it's
but it's [ __ ] true it's true it's true but I think if what the terrifying
true but I think if what the terrifying thing is if it all comes down to nuclear
thing is if it all comes down to nuclear war the toughness does not it doesn't
war the toughness does not it doesn't matter doesn't mean anything doesn't
matter doesn't mean anything doesn't matter but that's what's scary is like
matter but that's what's scary is like if someone's willing to shoot missiles
if someone's willing to shoot missiles into apartment buildings and do the [ __ ]
into apartment buildings and do the [ __ ] that Putin's already done in
that Putin's already done in Ukraine what like where's the line like
Ukraine what like where's the line like where is he willing to draw the line
where is he willing to draw the line well that's it yeah you know because
well that's it yeah you know because he's try he's posturing well not
he's try he's posturing well not posturing but with all the nuclear stuff
posturing but with all the nuclear stuff I think he's posturing because the
I think he's posturing because the ukrainians from what I hear are doing a
ukrainians from what I hear are doing a pretty good job you know fighting them
pretty good job you know fighting them off yeah uh I mean there's a lot of
off yeah uh I mean there's a lot of people dying of course on both sides I
people dying of course on both sides I believe but sure if he can't go in and
believe but sure if he can't go in and take out Ukraine it's not going to look
take out Ukraine it's not going to look good on the world stage is it no so
good on the world stage is it no so therefore it backs him into a corner I
therefore it backs him into a corner I was also reading or watching a video
was also reading or watching a video rather with this guy who lives in
rather with this guy who lives in Ukraine was talking about about how
Ukraine was talking about about how there's a secondary problem that
there's a secondary problem that happened from the government handing out
happened from the government handing out all these military weapons to everybody
all these military weapons to everybody is that a lot of criminals got these
is that a lot of criminals got these weapons so now robberies are going up
weapons so now robberies are going up and all sorts of other crimes are going
and all sorts of other crimes are going up wow GL they haven't got enough
up wow GL they haven't got enough problems at the moment without that as
problems at the moment without that as well yeah it's God it's horrific man the
well yeah it's God it's horrific man the whole thing is
whole thing is chaos puts things in perspective no it
chaos puts things in perspective no it really does yeah as as I said before you
really does yeah as as I said before you think you got real issues real problems
think you got real issues real problems it all pales in significance everybody
it all pales in significance everybody kind of forgot about about Co yeah yeah
kind of forgot about about Co yeah yeah no you're right even the State of the
no you're right even the State of the Union Address the president no one no
Union Address the president no one no one there is wearing a mask no one wear
one there is wearing a mask no one wear a mask they stopped wearing masks a few
a mask they stopped wearing masks a few weeks ago in England everything's done
weeks ago in England everything's done like literally no restrictions
like literally no restrictions whatsoever whatsoever yeah so that's
whatsoever whatsoever yeah so that's good um so your film uh there's a
good um so your film uh there's a documentary about you that Adam scorgie
documentary about you that Adam scorgie did love that guy when when when does it
did love that guy when when when does it come out uh March 15th March 15th March
come out uh March 15th March 15th March is it going to be available everywhere
is it going to be available everywhere like yeah so it's uh Universal Studios
like yeah so it's uh Universal Studios releasing it so it's um that's great
releasing it so it's um that's great yeah yeah uh video on demand initially I
yeah yeah uh video on demand initially I I don't know okay video on demand VOD
I don't know okay video on demand VOD yeah like um Apple exactly and then
yeah like um Apple exactly and then it'll be Netflix or something after that
it'll be Netflix or something after that I'm sure Netflix or Hulu but uh yeah
I'm sure Netflix or Hulu but uh yeah it's good it's interesting thank you Joe
it's good it's interesting thank you Joe cuz you said some great things on there
cuz you said some great things on there my pleasure I did it years ago Mike yeah
my pleasure I did it years ago Mike yeah I don't remember how long ago fil this
I don't remember how long ago fil this 2018 it took forever I don't know why it
2018 it took forever I don't know why it took so long um but yeah no I'm happy
took so long um but yeah no I'm happy with it and it's not just all about I
with it and it's not just all about I guess it is to a certain degree how
guess it is to a certain degree how great I am you know you know what
great I am you know you know what [ __ ] name I know it was called Built
[ __ ] name I know it was called Built For This that's what it was called and
For This that's what it was called and then and then some of the producers got
then and then some of the producers got together and they were like no we don't
together and they were like no we don't like this we don't like it we think
like this we don't like it we think Bisping and then Universal light down I
Bisping and then Universal light down I was like all right
was like all right whatever did they film it when you after
whatever did they film it when you after you retired yes they like right after
you retired yes they like right after that's when they started
that's when they started 2018 yeah yeah so yeah it was good it
2018 yeah yeah so yeah it was good it was good um lot of people you know let
was good um lot of people you know let their time I mean some of the words from
their time I mean some of the words from Michael J white he's on there he says
Michael J white he's on there he says some great stuff I love that guy oh he's
some great stuff I love that guy oh he's amazing very insightful though he talks
amazing very insightful though he talks about the challenges of going through
about the challenges of going through life as an alpha male you know what I
life as an alpha male you know what I mean and what's kind of expected from
mean and what's kind of expected from people like that and stuff so yeah no
people like that and stuff so yeah no there there's some it's it's surprising
there there's some it's it's surprising I think for some people it's the
I think for some people it's the emotional what is it like having someone
emotional what is it like having someone examine your life like that and have all
examine your life like that and have all these people talking about you like that
these people talking about you like that it's weird it's weird I I'm weird
it's weird it's weird I I'm weird sitting here talking about it oh my
sitting here talking about it oh my documentary do you know what I mean um
documentary do you know what I mean um but yeah I mean it's nice that it's
but yeah I mean it's nice that it's celebrated in such a way I mean the
celebrated in such a way I mean the producers and everyone involved did a
producers and everyone involved did a tremendous job and I'm very happy with
tremendous job and I'm very happy with it um but yeah it feels weird feels
it um but yeah it feels weird feels weird yeah it's got I I don't I mean
weird yeah it's got I I don't I mean people say I'm an Arrogant Bastard but I
people say I'm an Arrogant Bastard but I don't like to sit talk about myself all
don't like to sit talk about myself all the time you're not arrogant plenty of
the time you're not arrogant plenty of other people to talk about do you know
other people to talk about do you know what I mean the way you can tell if a
what I mean the way you can tell if a man is arrogant is like how does he
man is arrogant is like how does he behave once he's retired you're you're a
behave once he's retired you're you're a pretty fun guy you're easy going I mean
pretty fun guy you're easy going I mean you were just driven in intense no I was
you were just driven in intense no I was and like that guy doesn't exist anymore
and like that guy doesn't exist anymore isn't that wild it's it's wild it's wild
isn't that wild it's it's wild it's wild to me I don't sit around and watch my
to me I don't sit around and watch my own fights but occasionally I've been
own fights but occasionally I've been flicking through the TV it was it's
flicking through the TV it was it's about two years ago now I was going
about two years ago now I was going through the TV my son Lucas was in bed
through the TV my son Lucas was in bed with me and he's never watched any of my
with me and he's never watched any of my fights he's not interested he couldn't
fights he's not interested he couldn't care less he just makes fun of me all
care less he just makes fun of me all the time we have a great relationship
the time we have a great relationship you know what I mean it's just we just
you know what I mean it's just we just bust each other's balls all the time
bust each other's balls all the time it's great um and I was flicking through
it's great um and I was flicking through the TV and the Kung Le fight came on I
the TV and the Kung Le fight came on I said Lucas watch this watch this and he
said Lucas watch this watch this and he was like he he left the room after a few
was like he he left the room after a few minutes he's like how could you do that
minutes he's like how could you do that to another person dad you know so that's
to another person dad you know so that's what I'm saying we got to war with Lucas
what I'm saying we got to war with Lucas we're [ __ ] we're all we're all dead
we're [ __ ] we're all we're all dead but uh he went out the room and of
but uh he went out the room and of course I carried on watching it because
course I carried on watching it because you do and uh at the end of it I'm
you do and uh at the end of it I'm calling out you know everyone Under the
calling out you know everyone Under the Sun calling out rock all saying I'm
Sun calling out rock all saying I'm going to be the champion one day and I'm
going to be the champion one day and I'm like [ __ ] this guy Jesus Christ I KN
like [ __ ] this guy Jesus Christ I KN I knew I had one eye and where does this
I knew I had one eye and where does this confidence come from do you know what I
confidence come from do you know what I mean so even that fight in the Kung Le
mean so even that fight in the Kung Le fight you had one eye yeah yeah yeah wow
fight you had one eye yeah yeah yeah wow yeah but it's like you know where that
yeah but it's like you know where that guy doesn't exist anymore and even now
guy doesn't exist anymore and even now commentating I sit there obviously you
commentating I sit there obviously you know you've done it for many many years
know you've done it for many many years I sit there and I call these fights and
I sit there and I call these fights and I think these people are [ __ ]
I think these people are [ __ ] crazy do you know what I mean I see some
crazy do you know what I mean I see some of the action some of the shots that
of the action some of the shots that they land I'm like wow I mean I love it
they land I'm like wow I mean I love it I'm like wow these guys are crazy and I
I'm like wow these guys are crazy and I think oh yeah I used to do that the uh
think oh yeah I used to do that the uh that fight petan versus Rodriguez yes
that fight petan versus Rodriguez yes where Rodriguez caught him with that
where Rodriguez caught him with that head kick oh yeah and busted his nose
head kick oh yeah and busted his nose wide open he just huge hold on remind me
wide open he just huge hold on remind me how did that end again who won I think
how did that end again who won I think pan won but [ __ ] the blood is every
pan won but [ __ ] the blood is every everywhere it was crazy yeah no I know I
everywhere it was crazy yeah no I know I know and that Rodriguez guy I mean he's
know and that Rodriguez guy I mean he's a jiujitsu master he's got higher level
a jiujitsu master he's got higher level jiujitsu [ __ ] nasty stand up standing
jiujitsu [ __ ] nasty stand up standing there [ __ ] going toll to to with a
there [ __ ] going toll to to with a kickboxer I'm like a guy with like 90
kickboxer I'm like a guy with like 90 kickboxing fight take down for the love
kickboxing fight take down for the love of God what are you doing but what a
of God what are you doing but what a fight what a performance fight yeah no
fight what a performance fight yeah no it was wild that was wild that was great
it was wild that was wild that was great it's just uh there's so many fights that
it's just uh there's so many fights that like while you're in the middle watching
like while you're in the middle watching the fight you're like holy [ __ ] [ __ ]
the fight you're like holy [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah like just holy [ __ ] that's what I'm
yeah like just holy [ __ ] that's what I'm talking about you know and there is you
talking about you know and there is you know it does blow my mind what these men
know it does blow my mind what these men and women do I mean I get it of course I
and women do I mean I get it of course I mean I've been there but it is it's uh
mean I've been there but it is it's uh takes a special kind of person to go
takes a special kind of person to go there and do that and that's why I have
there and do that and that's why I have so much respect for everyone that has
so much respect for everyone that has the balls to step in there and do it
the balls to step in there and do it well that's one of the things that I
well that's one of the things that I really truly love about what the UFC has
really truly love about what the UFC has done with their commentary team is that
done with their commentary team is that they brought in guys like yourself guys
they brought in guys like yourself guys like Paul Felder Dominick Cruz Daniel
like Paul Felder Dominick Cruz Daniel corm you know all these guys that are
corm you know all these guys that are these Elite Fighters that also are great
these Elite Fighters that also are great at broadcasting and the guys they have
at broadcasting and the guys they have sit on the desk too you know same thing
sit on the desk too you know same thing it's like you they're giving all this
it's like you they're giving all this work to all these former Fighters and
work to all these former Fighters and they're so insightful there's so much
they're so insightful there's so much they can talk about that you know some
they can talk about that you know some just regular Sports commentator can't do
just regular Sports commentator can't do and there there's a thing about this
and there there's a thing about this sport too where when regular Sports guys
sport too where when regular Sports guys try to come in and use like regular
try to come in and use like regular Sports Guide jargon everybody's like get
Sports Guide jargon everybody's like get the [ __ ] out of here with that [ __ ] too
the [ __ ] out of here with that [ __ ] too polished too perfect they don't want to
polished too perfect they don't want to hear n like nonsense that you would say
hear n like nonsense that you would say like disrespectful talk about like a
like disrespectful talk about like a basketball player or a baseball player
basketball player or a baseball player not hustling when you start saying that
not hustling when you start saying that about Fighters like you got to you got
about Fighters like you got to you got yeah like I guess what you're talking
yeah like I guess what you're talking about there there was the famous one
about there there was the famous one with Stephen A Smith yeah that was a
with Stephen A Smith yeah that was a good one that was Conor and cowboy fight
good one that was Conor and cowboy fight and there was a big backlash over that
and there was a big backlash over that you know I I Ste I mean I yeah me too
you know I I Ste I mean I yeah me too he's right um he's a personality he's a
he's right um he's a personality he's a personality and he's going to bring in
personality and he's going to bring in nonight fans so that's what they're
nonight fans so that's what they're doing trying to get that crossover you
doing trying to get that crossover you know so I see it people like what the
know so I see it people like what the [ __ ] he doing talking about mixed
[ __ ] he doing talking about mixed martial arts like dude we're trying to
martial arts like dude we're trying to grow the sport trying to make it bigger
grow the sport trying to make it bigger and he's going to be instrumental in
and he's going to be instrumental in doing that and I think as long as he's
doing that and I think as long as he's talking to someone that is an expert
talking to someone that is an expert like if he's talking to Cormier or
like if he's talking to Cormier or something like that like Cormier can
something like that like Cormier can straighten out any misconceptions he
straighten out any misconceptions he might have yeah you know he brings the
might have yeah you know he brings the big personality and he's a like that's
big personality and he's a like that's his thing he's Stephen A he's got a hot
his thing he's Stephen A he's got a hot take he's got a hot take he's got hot
take he's got a hot take he's got hot takes you know and that's why he's Rich
takes you know and that's why he's Rich right he's hot take guy he's that's what
right he's hot take guy he's that's what he's very insightful about a lot of
he's very insightful about a lot of sports and obviously loves MMA you know
sports and obviously loves MMA you know but MMA is
but MMA is a it's not a it's not a game when
a it's not a it's not a game when someone pours their [ __ ] like jeang way
someone pours their [ __ ] like jeang way Lee versus Yani on J remember that
Lee versus Yani on J remember that [ __ ] fight crazy Jesus chaos oh my
[ __ ] fight crazy Jesus chaos oh my God when that fight was over like that
God when that fight was over like that wasn't a game that wasn't a game those
wasn't a game that wasn't a game those those two women fought for their lives
those two women fought for their lives exact they poured they emptied
exact they poured they emptied everything they had out into that
everything they had out into that octagon it's so it needs so much more
octagon it's so it needs so much more respect than any other Sport and fights
respect than any other Sport and fights like that you only have so many of those
like that you only have so many of those in you right only so many wars because
in you right only so many wars because as you say you leave a piece of yourself
as you say you leave a piece of yourself in the Octagon when you go through
in the Octagon when you go through something like what they did five rounds
something like what they did five rounds of just absolute War I mean you see the
of just absolute War I mean you see the state of Joanna's head afterwards oh my
state of Joanna's head afterwards oh my God incredible crazy as you say you know
God incredible crazy as you say you know you don't play that sport it's not yeah
you don't play that sport it's not yeah it's not it's not like a guy you know
it's not it's not like a guy you know didn't guard the goal posts well enough
didn't guard the goal posts well enough you know it's not like a guy drop the
you know it's not like a guy drop the ball in the infield that's not it's
ball in the infield that's not it's different man yeah that's why people do
different man yeah that's why people do talk about motivation in fights I said
talk about motivation in fights I said well my primary motivation is not to get
well my primary motivation is not to get the [ __ ] kicked out of me on National
the [ __ ] kicked out of me on National Television International television you
Television International television you know what yeah I want to win of course I
know what yeah I want to win of course I want to win I want to excel my career
want to win I want to excel my career but at that moment in time when they say
but at that moment in time when they say fight you're trying to be offensive but
fight you're trying to be offensive but defensive at the same time it's you or
defensive at the same time it's you or them you know kill or be killed was
them you know kill or be killed was there ever a fight that you went into
there ever a fight that you went into forget about just the the eye injury
forget about just the the eye injury which is obviously a giant compromise
which is obviously a giant compromise but was there ever a fight besides your
but was there ever a fight besides your eye injury where you went in where you
eye injury where you went in where you had no problems nothing wrong with you
had no problems nothing wrong with you um yeah I'm early in my career yeah
um yeah I'm early in my career yeah early yeah yeah but later on like that's
early yeah yeah but later on like that's something that most people who are
something that most people who are casuals don't know well yeah in my UFC
casuals don't know well yeah in my UFC career no because I blew out my PCL
career no because I blew out my PCL five days before The Ultimate Fighter F
five days before The Ultimate Fighter F finale training with Joor St Pierre yeah
finale training with Joor St Pierre yeah yeah the old uh zua office on Sahara in
yeah the old uh zua office on Sahara in Vegas yeah we were wrestling there and I
Vegas yeah we were wrestling there and I forget how it happened but I blew my PCL
forget how it happened but I blew my PCL 5 days before it so from there yeah my
5 days before it so from there yeah my knee was always bad did you tape it up
knee was always bad did you tape it up before you fought like how did you fight
before you fought like how did you fight no I didn't no just just wow just went
no I didn't no just just wow just went in there and did it I was fighting Josh
in there and did it I was fighting Josh a come on I can't can't beat him with a
a come on I can't can't beat him with a Tor PCL I don't deserve to be in the UFC
Tor PCL I don't deserve to be in the UFC no offense Josh how dare you oh my word
no offense Josh how dare you oh my word well that was 205 too yeah 205 yeah yeah
well that was 205 too yeah 205 yeah yeah yeah yeah but uh it's just part and
yeah yeah but uh it's just part and parle I mean to train for a fight I mean
parle I mean to train for a fight I mean wrestling it's all wrestling that's the
wrestling it's all wrestling that's the hardest part it is take the hardest like
hardest part it is take the hardest like my son he's he's he's had like five
my son he's he's he's had like five surgeries now he's never been punched in
surgeries now he's never been punched in the face once 20 that's crazy it's crazy
the face once 20 that's crazy it's crazy um all my injuries are from wrestling
um all my injuries are from wrestling other than the eye you know all
other than the eye you know all wrestling my neck I remember I was doing
wrestling my neck I remember I was doing a takedown and as I went down
a takedown and as I went down smack my head on the floor um you know
smack my head on the floor um you know obviously did my knee with George
obviously did my knee with George wrestling it's all wrestling wrestling
wrestling it's all wrestling wrestling is so tough yeah most of the guys that I
is so tough yeah most of the guys that I know that are high level Jiu-Jitsu guys
know that are high level Jiu-Jitsu guys they [ __ ] their necks up training with
they [ __ ] their necks up training with wrestlers and you know you get punched
wrestlers and you know you get punched and kicked in the face he might get a
and kicked in the face he might get a black eye you know you might get a cut
black eye you know you might get a cut or whatever but that stuff heals with
or whatever but that stuff heals with the wrestling injuries the Deep internal
the wrestling injuries the Deep internal longlasting
longlasting hardships yeah I mean how many those
hardships yeah I mean how many those guys like like those Elite wrestlers as
guys like like those Elite wrestlers as they get older like they like Dan Gable
they get older like they like Dan Gable like Dan Gable he's got two fake hips
like Dan Gable he's got two fake hips fake knees like and I didn't have a
fake knees like and I didn't have a wrestling career I wasn't a wrestler you
wrestling career I wasn't a wrestler you know I I I supplemented what I did with
know I I I supplemented what I did with some wrestling right you know what I
some wrestling right you know what I mean that's one of the more impressive
mean that's one of the more impressive things about George that never wrestled
things about George that never wrestled in high school never wrestled in college
in high school never wrestled in college became one of the best wrestlers in MMA
became one of the best wrestlers in MMA yeah it just goes to show yeah if you
yeah it just goes to show yeah if you dedicate yourself to it and is so
dedicate yourself to it and is so intelligent too like he's such a he's
intelligent too like he's such a he's such a smart guy in terms of his
such a smart guy in terms of his approach to training you know his
approach to training you know his approach absolutely and the thing is
approach absolutely and the thing is wrestling is hard to learn that's why
wrestling is hard to learn that's why most of the time you do start so young
most of the time you do start so young because you can format the brain in such
because you can format the brain in such a way that you can learn that because I
a way that you can learn that because I remember trying to learn
remember trying to learn wrestling single legs and stuff like
wrestling single legs and stuff like that I can't get power into this you
that I can't get power into this you know so sometimes if I'm doing a single
know so sometimes if I'm doing a single leg I put my head on the outside cuz at
leg I put my head on the outside cuz at least then I could drive my shoulder
least then I could drive my shoulder into it so obviously you're going to get
into it so obviously you're going to get caught in a gear in if you do that
caught in a gear in if you do that but doing it with the head inside I was
but doing it with the head inside I was like for ages I'm like this is [ __ ]
like for ages I'm like this is [ __ ] this doesn't work how am I meant to take
this doesn't work how am I meant to take somebody down like this I'm like what
somebody down like this I'm like what are you talking about M come here and
are you talking about M come here and the wrestling coach would just take me
the wrestling coach would just take me down I'm like it's [ __ ] easier to
down I'm like it's [ __ ] easier to punch someone so yeah it's hard hard to
punch someone so yeah it's hard hard to learn you know and the fact that George
learn you know and the fact that George got so good at it from not wrestling as
got so good at it from not wrestling as a child is is impressive was the thing
a child is is impressive was the thing with striking too it's some for some
with striking too it's some for some people and I don't know why some people
people and I don't know why some people can figure it out but for some people
can figure it out but for some people when they're learning striking later in
when they're learning striking later in life they never develop that kind of
life they never develop that kind of fluidity that a person like like a Floyd
fluidity that a person like like a Floyd Mayweather for example that like from
Mayweather for example that like from the time he was a small child he was
the time he was a small child he was learning proper techniqu yeah well you
learning proper techniqu yeah well you got to have rhythm yeah you need Rhythm
got to have rhythm yeah you need Rhythm if you're a striker not that I'm the
if you're a striker not that I'm the best dancer I'm not but uh yeah you got
best dancer I'm not but uh yeah you got to have rhythm you know and if you
to have rhythm you know and if you haven't got that just like punching
haven't got that just like punching power you hav got it or you haven't if
power you hav got it or you haven't if you haven't got the Rhythm as a striker
you haven't got the Rhythm as a striker if you can't move you haven't got
if you can't move you haven't got coordination then you're going to
coordination then you're going to struggle I think yeah well one of the
struggle I think yeah well one of the things that's interesting about guys
things that's interesting about guys like lomachenko is that his father took
like lomachenko is that his father took him out of boxing for years and made him
him out of boxing for years and made him do Russian or Ukrainian dance right and
do Russian or Ukrainian dance right and so this Ukrainian dance moves that they
so this Ukrainian dance moves that they did that's part of the reason why his
did that's part of the reason why his footwork is so [ __ ] impressive which
footwork is so [ __ ] impressive which is a giant part of his game oh no it's a
is a giant part of his game oh no it's a huge part of it I mean his footwork is
huge part of it I mean his footwork is just incredible it's dancing it is to a
just incredible it's dancing it is to a certain degree you're dancing with your
certain degree you're dancing with your opponent you know fighting is like a
opponent you know fighting is like a dance so UFC three where you won the UL
dance so UFC three where you won the UL Ultimate Fighter 3 rather where you won
Ultimate Fighter 3 rather where you won the the the championship what was what
the the the championship what was what year was that 2006 so from 2006 isn't it
year was that 2006 so from 2006 isn't it wild when you look at the change in the
wild when you look at the change in the games of these Fighters like how much
games of these Fighters like how much more there are so so many guys that are
more there are so so many guys that are coming around up like where you're
coming around up like where you're seeing them for the first time in the
seeing them for the first time in the Octagon like one of their first fights
Octagon like one of their first fights and you're like Jesus Christ these
and you're like Jesus Christ these people are so good cough kicks yes they
people are so good cough kicks yes they didn't exist when I even when I was
didn't exist when I even when I was fighting I've never taken a cough kick I
fighting I've never taken a cough kick I have no uh uh
have no uh uh idea what they feel like they look like
idea what they feel like they look like they hurt they because people fall on
they hurt they because people fall on the floor and they get red and swollen
the floor and they get red and swollen and they look nasty there you go I mean
and they look nasty there you go I mean that's the evolution of the sport well
that's the evolution of the sport well do you remember who the first person you
do you remember who the first person you ever saw throw one I don't for me I'm
ever saw throw one I don't for me I'm pretty sure it was Benson Henderson oh
pretty sure it was Benson Henderson oh of course he was one of the early guys
of course he was one of the early guys yeah he was one of the first guys I saw
yeah he was one of the first guys I saw us it but it didn't seem as effective
us it but it didn't seem as effective and it didn't take off overnight it
and it didn't take off overnight it wasn't yeah cuz I remember seeing Benson
wasn't yeah cuz I remember seeing Benson doing and I to think what's he doing
doing and I to think what's he doing because he never he never uh you know
because he never he never uh you know cuz I've had people throwing weird kicks
cuz I've had people throwing weird kicks at me over the course of my career I'm
at me over the course of my career I'm like stop doing that [ __ ] please like I
like stop doing that [ __ ] please like I used to have one spy partner would be
used to have one spy partner would be here and he he' lean down and he' Jab my
here and he he' lean down and he' Jab my thigh or whatever I'm like what the [ __ ]
thigh or whatever I'm like what the [ __ ] are you doing jabing my thigh you just
are you doing jabing my thigh you just trying to make me look stupid aren't you
trying to make me look stupid aren't you you know what I mean and I used to see
you know what I mean and I used to see Benson do that I think there's no impact
Benson do that I think there's no impact there but I was wrong well it's crazy
there but I was wrong well it's crazy how it just all of a sudden took over
how it just all of a sudden took over the sport like I don't know what year
the sport like I don't know what year was I mean was a few years ago though
was I mean was a few years ago though you just started seeing everybody
you just started seeing everybody throwing calf kicks it's the ultimate C
throwing calf kicks it's the ultimate C kicking Championship now because you
kicking Championship now because you literally you literally can end the
literally you literally can end the fight yeah you can't take too many of
fight yeah you can't take too many of them the only person I've ever seen who
them the only person I've ever seen who could take them and it doesn't seem to
could take them and it doesn't seem to have as much of an effect on them is Max
have as much of an effect on them is Max Max yeah when he fought volkanovski
Max yeah when he fought volkanovski volkanovski was eating his calf up and
volkanovski was eating his calf up and he just kept switching stances and kept
he just kept switching stances and kept moving the damage that it does though
moving the damage that it does though yeah it's crazy I mean of course then
yeah it's crazy I mean of course then you got the nerve issues as well well on
you got the nerve issues as well well on the peronal nerve as we saw with Al
the peronal nerve as we saw with Al that's one thing but just the sheer pain
that's one thing but just the sheer pain it looks so painful yeah that happened
it looks so painful yeah that happened to Chandler too remember in Bellator his
to Chandler too remember in Bellator his uh his calf gave out his foot his foot
uh his calf gave out his foot his foot dropped and they stopped the fight cuz
dropped and they stopped the fight cuz he couldn't walk good because it's like
he couldn't walk good because it's like it's just from calf kick yeah cuz people
it's just from calf kick yeah cuz people always say to me you know say always say
always say to me you know say always say to me but often you get talking to
to me but often you get talking to someone and they find out you were a
someone and they find out you were a fighter you know oh what was that like
fighter you know oh what was that like does it hurt getting punched in the face
does it hurt getting punched in the face or whatever like well no not really I'm
or whatever like well no not really I'm not trying to sound tough with the
not trying to sound tough with the adrenaline and stuff and you get kind of
adrenaline and stuff and you get kind of conditioned to taking a punch to the
conditioned to taking a punch to the face but leg kicks you feel leg kicks
face but leg kicks you feel leg kicks and Body Shots punches to the face
and Body Shots punches to the face unless it knocks you out or it's a
unless it knocks you out or it's a really really good one you know you just
really really good one you know you just take him like son of a [ __ ] whatever Li
take him like son of a [ __ ] whatever Li liver shots are the weirdest because you
liver shots are the weirdest because you can get hit sometimes really hard and it
can get hit sometimes really hard and it doesn't do it yeah totally fine and then
doesn't do it yeah totally fine and then sometimes a good Swift left hook to the
sometimes a good Swift left hook to the ribs and you just have that bolt goes
ribs and you just have that bolt goes through your body and you can't [ __ ]
through your body and you can't [ __ ] move where the angle that you landed at
move where the angle that you landed at as well if you get it kind of going up
as well if you get it kind of going up if the person's breathing in as it's
if the person's breathing in as it's connected as well that that'll you know
connected as well that that'll you know play a big factor in it but yeah they're
play a big factor in it but yeah they're crippling a good body shot down you go
crippling a good body shot down you go did you see that uh kusov knockout the
did you see that uh kusov knockout the other day no who's that oh my God he
other day no who's that oh my God he used to be kesk oh sorry pardon me uh
used to be kesk oh sorry pardon me uh Andre
Andre koreshkov yeah that spinning back see
koreshkov yeah that spinning back see but I know he broke five
but I know he broke five ribs bro it's one of the craziest ones
ribs bro it's one of the craziest ones I've ever seen cuz you see on the impact
I've ever seen cuz you see on the impact his foot is just deep into this dude's
his foot is just deep into this dude's rib cage take and it's uh look at
rib cage take and it's uh look at that it's chance for encounter who's a
that it's chance for encounter who's a tough [ __ ] dude tough [ __ ] dude so
tough [ __ ] dude tough [ __ ] dude so when you see him go look at that like I
when you see him go look at that like I mean is just in there it's the heel the
mean is just in there it's the heel the heel right into the rib cage shattered
heel right into the rib cage shattered five
five ribs five ribs I that's a nightmare oh
ribs five ribs I that's a nightmare oh tremendous nightmare good luck yeah
tremendous nightmare good luck yeah breathing for the next few months I mean
breathing for the next few months I mean it's just he and it's where he nailed
it's just he and it's where he nailed him it's like right where the liver is
him it's like right where the liver is too it's perfect no it is watch this
too it's perfect no it is watch this look at the speed of this I mean boom Oh
look at the speed of this I mean boom Oh my God it's right in there
my God it's right in there oh horrific five ribs
oh horrific five ribs yeah yeah body sh cartilage in my ribs
yeah yeah body sh cartilage in my ribs and yeah I did that once that's a
and yeah I did that once that's a horrible thing you can't move good I've
horrible thing you can't move good I've broken them but the the tearing of the
broken them but the the tearing of the cartilage might be just as bad as
cartilage might be just as bad as breaking them final day before I flew to
breaking them final day before I flew to New York for the gey PR fight that's
New York for the gey PR fight that's right you were telling me that you were
right you were telling me that you were thinking about trying to shoot it up
thinking about trying to shoot it up with uh lidocaine yeah yeah never did
with uh lidocaine yeah yeah never did that one fortunately well yeah I mean
that one fortunately well yeah I mean imagine the doctor said oh you can uh I
imagine the doctor said oh you can uh I think we talked about this last time
think we talked about this last time punch you L and die I'm like all right
punch you L and die I'm like all right wait this up right here no you're good
wait this up right here no you're good thanks I appreciate it I feel like You'
thanks I appreciate it I feel like You' have to go really deep to puncture your
have to go really deep to puncture your lung though yeah I think maybe he was
lung though yeah I think maybe he was just being scared yeah probably it seems
just being scared yeah probably it seems like if you're going into the cartet
like if you're going into the cartet just kind of kind of right there well
just kind of kind of right there well that's what I thought I thought it's
that's what I thought I thought it's just like there you know what I mean go
just like there you know what I mean go in by a centimeter or something yeah
in by a centimeter or something yeah yeah someone did it for you yeah but
yeah someone did it for you yeah but me's just thinking he's a bloody
me's just thinking he's a bloody knucklehead is it he's just going to go
knucklehead is it he's just going to go and stick it right do you know what I
and stick it right do you know what I mean right look you tranquilizing a
mean right look you tranquilizing a rhino yeah exactly oh stick it in me
rhino yeah exactly oh stick it in me there we go that no Michael just it's
there we go that no Michael just it's only on the outside but
only on the outside but yeah is it difficult to go from this guy
yeah is it difficult to go from this guy who's just completely obsessed with
who's just completely obsessed with winning and and [ __ ] people up and
winning and and [ __ ] people up and being a champion and then you disconnect
being a champion and then you disconnect from that and you go to being a
from that and you go to being a commentator and a regular guy like do
commentator and a regular guy like do you do you miss having like some
you do you miss having like some ultimate quest in your life a thing that
ultimate quest in your life a thing that you're chasing or do you feel satisfied
you're chasing or do you feel satisfied with what you accomplished yeah um a bit
with what you accomplished yeah um a bit of both you know cuz I'm Still Still uh
of both you know cuz I'm Still Still uh no I'm just on to the next thing in my
no I'm just on to the next thing in my life you know not over I'm still trying
life you know not over I'm still trying to be a success still working on many
to be a success still working on many many projects um but I do miss you know
many projects um but I do miss you know when when you're training for a fight I
when when you're training for a fight I I miss the mission of it you know what I
I miss the mission of it you know what I mean like so you get an email from the
mean like so you get an email from the UFC you're gonna fight this guy on this
UFC you're gonna fight this guy on this Daye in three months time you sit down
Daye in three months time you sit down with your coaches you watch the tape you
with your coaches you watch the tape you formulate a game plan there's the you
formulate a game plan there's the you get the Whiteboard out with you know
get the Whiteboard out with you know have train this day train that day
have train this day train that day strength and conditioning there run
strength and conditioning there run there wrestling there you know rest day
there wrestling there you know rest day here with massage and whatnot you know
here with massage and whatnot you know and then you all you go through that
and then you all you go through that two- Monon training camp you all get
two- Monon training camp you all get together on a plane you fly after to the
together on a plane you fly after to the other side of the world you know with
other side of the world you know with your brothers you know and you go to war
your brothers you know and you go to war I miss that you know it's fun it's fun
I miss that you know it's fun it's fun you know what I I do miss that but I
you know what I I do miss that but I don't miss being a fighter necessarily
don't miss being a fighter necessarily but I I missed that side of it I missed
but I I missed that side of it I missed the challenge that's great well I think
the challenge that's great well I think it's cuz you did it you know you got it
it's cuz you did it you know you got it all in like you you know obviously with
all in like you you know obviously with the wear and tear that's on your body
the wear and tear that's on your body you you left it all in in the oct but
you you left it all in in the oct but then you just on to the next thing in
then you just on to the next thing in life now you know I mean I'm I'm very
life now you know I mean I'm I'm very very lucky you know that I mean you
very lucky you know that I mean you mentioned the UFC bringing in former
mentioned the UFC bringing in former Fighters I'm so grateful for that
Fighters I'm so grateful for that because there's so many fighters and
because there's so many fighters and athletes you know when they're when
athletes you know when they're when they're done what are they doing you
they're done what are they doing you know and that always scared me you know
know and that always scared me you know because so many people they they uh life
because so many people they they uh life doesn't work out for them you that is
doesn't work out for them you that is what the beautiful thing about the UFC
what the beautiful thing about the UFC what they've done I really love that
what they've done I really love that that they've given these retired
that they've given these retired Fighters a legitimate career like DC's
Fighters a legitimate career like DC's got a great living he's got a legitimate
got a great living he's got a legitimate career as a commentator and a lot of
career as a commentator and a lot of Fighters they they struggle I mean DC
Fighters they they struggle I mean DC also has his wrestling too he's coaching
also has his wrestling too he's coaching a lot of wrestling but many fighters
a lot of wrestling but many fighters when it's over they don't know what the
when it's over they don't know what the [ __ ] to do their whole identity is
[ __ ] to do their whole identity is wrapped up in the fact that they're
wrapped up in the fact that they're they're competing it's hard it's hard
they're competing it's hard it's hard and you're absolutely right and a lot of
and you're absolutely right and a lot of people fall into ill ways and things
people fall into ill ways and things like that you see it all the time it's
like that you see it all the time it's it's a it's a slippery slope uh so yeah
it's a it's a slippery slope uh so yeah I mean for me I was lucky because
I mean for me I was lucky because because of my eye issue I knew I was
because of my eye issue I knew I was trying to set up some things whilst I
trying to set up some things whilst I was still had a platform for one of a
was still had a platform for one of a better word because nobody gives a damn
better word because nobody gives a damn about a washed up former Fighter the 10
about a washed up former Fighter the 10 a penny when you when I because I knew I
a penny when you when I because I knew I was on borrowed time so I was trying to
was on borrowed time so I was trying to do as many things as I could to try and
do as many things as I could to try and earn a living outside of fighting you
earn a living outside of fighting you know unfortunately all kind of paid off
know unfortunately all kind of paid off but yeah no it's tough you know it's not
but yeah no it's tough you know it's not for everyone it's a hard way to make a
for everyone it's a hard way to make a living yeah and you know we all know so
living yeah and you know we all know so many guys who go the wrong way where it
many guys who go the wrong way where it it didn't work out or they around too
it didn't work out or they around too long that's a shame that that I mean
long that's a shame that that I mean like with you one of the things is you
like with you one of the things is you still have your faculties about you 100%
still have your faculties about you 100% so you could you know you're great at
so you could you know you're great at talking you you you can articulate
talking you you you can articulate things
things well so many of the guys that we know
well so many of the guys that we know they they get to a certain point and
they they get to a certain point and then they keep going and they they
then they keep going and they they should have stopped and then they keep
should have stopped and then they keep going even further and they should have
going even further and they should have stopped and then you know you run into
stopped and then you know you run into them one day and they'll say something
them one day and they'll say something to you and then you you keep talking and
to you and then you you keep talking and they'll say that thing again and you
they'll say that thing again and you realize like oh my God they not you I'm
realize like oh my God they not you I'm laughing because I repeat myself
laughing because I repeat myself sometime but that's cuz I'm an idiot not
sometime but that's cuz I'm an idiot not not because of CTE or anything like that
not because of CTE or anything like that but I'm like I get accused of that a lot
but I'm like I get accused of that a lot that's why I started laughing but yeah
that's why I started laughing but yeah no it's sad but it's a it's a tough way
no it's sad but it's a it's a tough way to make a living and people want to
to make a living and people want to criticize the UFC or they want to
criticize the UFC or they want to criticize boxing we know what we're
criticize boxing we know what we're doing we know what we sign up for and
doing we know what we sign up for and and and we do it we welcome it with open
and and we do it we welcome it with open arms you know what I mean because this
arms you know what I mean because this is our chance this is what we're good at
is our chance this is what we're good at this is what we're blessed with these
this is what we're blessed with these abilities these talents you know so so
abilities these talents you know so so we do it and and it is a sacrifice you
we do it and and it is a sacrifice you know and you don't necessarily know at
know and you don't necessarily know at the time maybe what you might be signing
the time maybe what you might be signing up to in terms of your long-term Health
up to in terms of your long-term Health but that's the role of the dice that's
but that's the role of the dice that's you dare to be great yeah it is a role
you dare to be great yeah it is a role of the dice and the glory that someone
of the dice and the glory that someone gets from the fact that they accomplish
gets from the fact that they accomplish something that just the tiniest
something that just the tiniest percentage of people I mean what [ __ ]
percentage of people I mean what [ __ ] percentage of people on Earth get to be
percentage of people on Earth get to be a UFC champion yeah I mean it's one of
a UFC champion yeah I mean it's one of the smallest percentages of any
the smallest percentages of any accomplishment a person can do yeah but
accomplishment a person can do yeah but you know
you know like these days a lot of
like these days a lot of people don't give it the respect that it
people don't give it the respect that it should that it deserves you know I'm
should that it deserves you know I'm talking about missing weight and things
talking about missing weight and things like that my son blew out his meniscus
like that my son blew out his meniscus and still and then he got heavy and then
and still and then he got heavy and then he got covid you know he got up to like
he got covid you know he got up to like 220 something pounds he wrestles at 197
220 something pounds he wrestles at 197 and he had a tournament come up and he
and he had a tournament come up and he had to cut weight he didn't get paid a
had to cut weight he didn't get paid a penny got no Entourage with him no no
penny got no Entourage with him no no team of people helping cut weight but he
team of people helping cut weight but he still made weight and then wrestled 30
still made weight and then wrestled 30 minutes later wrestled like [ __ ] because
minutes later wrestled like [ __ ] because of course you can't wrestle well and
of course you can't wrestle well and then he made weight again a few days
then he made weight again a few days later you see a lot of people coming in
later you see a lot of people coming in not making weight these days because
not making weight these days because it's cool they see it on TV they want to
it's cool they see it on TV they want to be a part of it they want to be famous
be a part of it they want to be famous they want to make some money you know uh
they want to make some money you know uh [ __ ] respect the sport show up on
[ __ ] respect the sport show up on weight do you think shape it's it's
weight do you think shape it's it's obviously there's a science to weight
obviously there's a science to weight cutting who who did you work with did
cutting who who did you work with did you work with lockheart or Dolce no well
you work with lockheart or Dolce no well I worked with Dolce for a little bit bit
I worked with Dolce for a little bit bit yeah a little bit yeah there's a science
yeah a little bit yeah there's a science to that [ __ ] though yeah no absolutely
to that [ __ ] though yeah no absolutely there is yeah I mean the guys that are
there is yeah I mean the guys that are really good at it like DOL and lockart
really good at it like DOL and lockart they they they know exactly how much
they they they know exactly how much water you should be taking in exactly
water you should be taking in exactly how much sodium they weigh you they
how much sodium they weigh you they check your nutrients they know they know
check your nutrients they know they know what you're what they're doing like but
what you're what they're doing like but some guys they just think I can make the
some guys they just think I can make the weight I'm just to sweat it out and it's
weight I'm just to sweat it out and it's dangerous unfortunately we haven't seen
dangerous unfortunately we haven't seen it in the UFC a loss of life people die
it in the UFC a loss of life people die a guy died in Brazil a few years back
a guy died in Brazil a few years back I've been there I felt like I've been
I've been there I felt like I've been close to death on yeah
close to death on yeah absolutely right yeah at 85 yeah you
absolutely right yeah at 85 yeah you know but what were you walking around at
know but what were you walking around at when you were fighting at 85 when I was
when you were fighting at 85 when I was it depends when I first went down there
it depends when I first went down there I knew nothing about cutting weight so I
I knew nothing about cutting weight so I actually dieted I saw Eddie Bravo my
actually dieted I saw Eddie Bravo my first ever uh middleweight fight was UFC
first ever uh middleweight fight was UFC 83 Sarah and GSP I was fighting Charles
83 Sarah and GSP I was fighting Charles McCarthy and I dieted that down to 185
McCarthy and I dieted that down to 185 pretty much about 188 cuz I was a
pretty much about 188 cuz I was a [ __ ] idiot the team I was with at the
[ __ ] idiot the team I was with at the time didn't know anything about it and I
time didn't know anything about it and I remember I went down in the morning to
remember I went down in the morning to do to have the the weight checked
do to have the the weight checked because they always used to bring you
because they always used to bring you down early to see where you're at and I
down early to see where you're at and I remember I got in the elevator and Eddie
remember I got in the elevator and Eddie Bravo was there he said how's the weight
Bravo was there he said how's the weight I said I'm about 187 188 he said oh how
I said I'm about 187 188 he said oh how was the cut I said I haven't done a cut
was the cut I said I haven't done a cut he said well he said you could make 170
he said well he said you could make 170 I was like [ __ ] you're right so after I
I was like [ __ ] you're right so after I got knocked out of Dan Henderson I'm
got knocked out of Dan Henderson I'm like hold on a minute I got to got to
like hold on a minute I got to got to change some things here so I started
change some things here so I started cutting if I got on a plane on the
cutting if I got on a plane on the Tuesday to fly to whatever City it was
Tuesday to fly to whatever City it was if I was2 200 I was happy so 14 PBS so
if I was2 200 I was happy so 14 PBS so when you were 188 did you just kind of
when you were 188 did you just kind of starve yourself and Shrink everything
starve yourself and Shrink everything down yeah exactly so did you feel weak
down yeah exactly so did you feel weak weak weaker every time makeing 185 to be
weak weaker every time makeing 185 to be honest you start the count so
honest you start the count so detrimental to the sport I think cutting
detrimental to the sport I think cutting weight I would love to see everybody
weight I would love to see everybody move up I would start my Camp i' would
move up I would start my Camp i' would feel strong I would feel great and then
feel strong I would feel great and then by the end of
by the end of it I was so weak and pathetic you know
it I was so weak and pathetic you know what I mean I was getting thrown around
what I mean I was getting thrown around the place yeah my cardio is good but I'm
the place yeah my cardio is good but I'm not strong or explosive you know I guess
not strong or explosive you know I guess because you're draining yourself no
because you're draining yourself no carbs yeah working my ass off two three
carbs yeah working my ass off two three times a day with no carbohydrates you're
times a day with no carbohydrates you're going to lose muscle you're going to get
going to lose muscle you're going to get weak you're going to be overtrained
weak you're going to be overtrained that's exactly what I was doing and a
that's exactly what I was doing and a lot of people a lot of people do it the
lot of people a lot of people do it the same way and it's kind of it's just
same way and it's kind of it's just moronic do you think that when you fight
moronic do you think that when you fight Charles McCarthy and you get down to 188
Charles McCarthy and you get down to 188 was that as good like what was better
was that as good like what was better like was it getting bigger and then
like was it getting bigger and then drying yourself out and then re
drying yourself out and then re rehydrating probably not no I mean yes
rehydrating probably not no I mean yes that gives you a size and a perceived
that gives you a size and a perceived size and strength Advantage but
size and strength Advantage but everybody's doing the same thing so
everybody's doing the same thing so you're not really at an advantage I
you're not really at an advantage I remember I went down to 185 and I was
remember I went down to 185 and I was like oh I'm going to picking on these
like oh I'm going to picking on these little guys now and I squared up against
little guys now and I squared up against uh my second fight was Jason day I
uh my second fight was Jason day I remember seeing Jason day in the office
remember seeing Jason day in the office where you sign all the posters like
where you sign all the posters like [ __ ] taller than me what's all
[ __ ] taller than me what's all this [ __ ] I thought I was fighting small
this [ __ ] I thought I was fighting small guys uh Jas day was good too remember we
guys uh Jas day was good too remember we fought Alan beler and finished him from
fought Alan beler and finished him from the guard yeah yeah that was good yeah
the guard yeah yeah that was good yeah um so yeah no it's just it's just weird
um so yeah no it's just it's just weird culture that we have but we're kind of
culture that we have but we're kind of you're damned if you do and damned if
you're damned if you do and damned if you don't you know yeah that is uh that
you don't you know yeah that is uh that is a a great way to put it because
is a a great way to put it because there's so many guys that do cut weight
there's so many guys that do cut weight that you're forced into that situation
that you're forced into that situation but I think you know I know one FC is
but I think you know I know one FC is tried to curb it I don't know exactly
tried to curb it I don't know exactly how effective it is um um but I know
how effective it is um um but I know they've instituted some sort of a
they've instituted some sort of a hydration protocol where you have to be
hydration protocol where you have to be hydrated and they check your weight it's
hydrated and they check your weight it's the same at schools wrestling High
the same at schools wrestling High School there's uh hydration tests every
School there's uh hydration tests every so often there was supposed to be a rule
so often there was supposed to be a rule wasn't there a while ago where you had
wasn't there a while ago where you had to be within 20% of your weight you you
to be within 20% of your weight you you only have to be over by 20% of your body
only have to be over by 20% of your body weight right like x amount of days
weight right like x amount of days outside of the fight then it went away
outside of the fight then it went away there was talk of that coming in I think
there was talk of that coming in I think from the athletic California athletic
from the athletic California athletic commission I think I think that's right
commission I think I think that's right yeah just went away there was also a
yeah just went away there was also a thing about rehydrating like you
thing about rehydrating like you couldn't rehydrate too much like you
couldn't rehydrate too much like you couldn't be x amount of percentage over
couldn't be x amount of percentage over what your weighing weight was cuz
what your weighing weight was cuz everyone used to use IVs right and then
everyone used to use IVs right and then they took that away yeah but everyone
they took that away yeah but everyone still carried on doing the same amount
still carried on doing the same amount of weight Cuts you know what the
of weight Cuts you know what the craziest thing I ever heard I know a guy
craziest thing I ever heard I know a guy who um he he took blood out of his body
who um he he took blood out of his body to oh really yeah that's crazy crazy and
to oh really yeah that's crazy crazy and they put it but they put it back in
they put it but they put it back in after after the weighin yeah so it's
after after the weighin yeah so it's like is that an advantage yeah I think
like is that an advantage yeah I think so yeah no I'm going to say it's blood
so yeah no I'm going to say it's blood doping I don't know how many days like
doping I don't know how many days like when they do blood doping how many days
when they do blood doping how many days do they keep it out of your body and let
do they keep it out of your body and let your body Rec let's find that out when
your body Rec let's find that out when uh someone does blood doping how many
uh someone does blood doping how many days do they keep the blood out of their
days do they keep the blood out of their body before they put more back in
body before they put more back in because the the whole idea is like your
because the the whole idea is like your body has a certain amount of blood that
body has a certain amount of blood that it likes to keep in your body so if you
it likes to keep in your body so if you drain your body of like a few pints of
drain your body of like a few pints of blood and then you have them sit in the
blood and then you have them sit in the refrigerator and then your body replaces
refrigerator and then your body replaces that blood and then you put the old
that blood and then you put the old blood in too you've got more blood
blood in too you've got more blood you've got more blood so you got more
you've got more blood so you got more oxygen cells right which is like why the
oxygen cells right which is like why the cyclist
cyclist Takeo so I wonder like how long it takes
Takeo so I wonder like how long it takes for your body to make that blood though
for your body to make that blood though because you would think if like like say
because you would think if like like say if a guy like this guy that I had heard
if a guy like this guy that I had heard I don't want to say his name but I heard
I don't want to say his name but I heard that he took two CH son just say
that he took two CH son just say it I'm joking I'm joking not CH but CH
it I'm joking I'm joking not CH but CH would do it if it
would do it if it worked d right would I had a
worked d right would I had a conversation with jail right after he
conversation with jail right after he got popped and he goes you know those
got popped and he goes you know those tests that they do turns out they're
tests that they do turns out they're really good those tests are really good
really good those tests are really good hey fir play fir play he just owned it
hey fir play fir play he just owned it he's a funny [ __ ] dude man he's a
he's a funny [ __ ] dude man he's a funny guy he changed the game in terms
funny guy he changed the game in terms of like letting people know that [ __ ]
of like letting people know that [ __ ] talking is incredibly profitable in MMA
talking is incredibly profitable in MMA yeah because before for him and that
yeah because before for him and that [ __ ] that he would talk with Anderson
[ __ ] that he would talk with Anderson Silva like oh God that was legendary
Silva like oh God that was legendary though legendary what was he trying to
though legendary what was he trying to feed the carrot to the bus [ __ ] oh
feed the carrot to the bus [ __ ] oh that was with minaro that was hilarious
that was with minaro that was hilarious hilarious this is be this is the most
hilarious this is be this is the most detailed explanation I can find of like
detailed explanation I can find of like two sentences okay what does it say I
two sentences okay what does it say I can't read that without my glasses uh
can't read that without my glasses uh stored one to seven days before a high
stored one to seven days before a high endurance event so like if a guy does
endurance event so like if a guy does that and makes weight and then they take
that and makes weight and then they take the blood out they store it for a day
the blood out they store it for a day and they put it back in the next day
and they put it back in the next day says as a significant amount of iron is
says as a significant amount of iron is removed by each autog autologus autus
removed by each autog autologus autus transfusion an adequate time for
transfusion an adequate time for Recovery is not less than 3 days of not
Recovery is not less than 3 days of not oh of not less than three
oh of not less than three days interesting from the last donation
days interesting from the last donation and appropriate iron supplements oh this
and appropriate iron supplements oh this is about iron okay usually required for
is about iron okay usually required for patients undergoing alus donations
patients undergoing alus donations nearly 50% of autologus donations are
nearly 50% of autologus donations are not used by the donor and are discarded
not used by the donor and are discarded oh wow all anyway um so this this guy to
oh wow all anyway um so this this guy to make weight they took bags of blood out
make weight they took bags of blood out of them and one of my friends uh walked
of them and one of my friends uh walked in and they were doing it in the [ __ ]
in and they were doing it in the [ __ ] hotel room and one of my friends walked
hotel room and one of my friends walked in and saw them taking BL he goes what
in and saw them taking BL he goes what the [ __ ] are you guys doing he like he's
the [ __ ] are you guys doing he like he's this is how he makes weight and and how
this is how he makes weight and and how much weight do we talk blood are we
much weight do we talk blood are we talking it says uh a liter of water is 1
talking it says uh a liter of water is 1 kilogram well a liter is a lot man
kilogram well a liter is a lot man that's a lot a lit blood a l 1.05 K just
that's a lot a lit blood a l 1.05 K just a little bit more than one
a little bit more than one kilogram um but I mean how much can you
kilogram um but I mean how much can you take out but two two two two pounds is
take out but two two two two pounds is that's real weight no that's a lot I
that's real weight no that's a lot I remember uh this reminded me of a story
remember uh this reminded me of a story you know Dean I'm a singer right sure
you know Dean I'm a singer right sure yeah yeah great guy shout out to Dean
yeah yeah great guy shout out to Dean shout out to Dean great guy he's not
shout out to Dean great guy he's not going to like me telling this story
going to like me telling this story though but it's true I was in Sydney um
though but it's true I was in Sydney um and he's like Mike are you doing an IV
and he's like Mike are you doing an IV after the fight I said well no I wasn't
after the fight I said well no I wasn't going to I said but I'd take one and he
going to I said but I'd take one and he said yeah yeah no worries I I've got you
said yeah yeah no worries I I've got you I I've got you covering I said all right
I I've got you covering I said all right great so he comes to the hotel room and
great so he comes to the hotel room and he just just done a course in it you you
he just just done a course in it you you know what I mean so he wanted to do it
know what I mean so he wanted to do it turns like skills in doing IVs wasn't
turns like skills in doing IVs wasn't very good start sticking [ __ ] needles
very good start sticking [ __ ] needles in my arm right he messed it up and
in my arm right he messed it up and there was literally literally just just
there was literally literally just just a spray of blood coming and and I'm
a spray of blood coming and and I'm standing I'm going Dean is this normal
standing I'm going Dean is this normal and and he just covers it up with his
and and he just covers it up with his finger and then he's like uh he talks a
finger and then he's like uh he talks a little and then lets his finger off
little and then lets his finger off blood spewing out again he goes M just
blood spewing out again he goes M just cover that up I'm going to go get help
cover that up I'm going to go get help and he runs off has to go get like his
and he runs off has to go get like his bued yeah nurse or whatever comes back
bued yeah nurse or whatever comes back and takes care of it I'm like Jesus dude
and takes care of it I'm like Jesus dude I'm fighting tomorrow yeah the nurse
I'm fighting tomorrow yeah the nurse that you met she gives me uh IV um
that you met she gives me uh IV um vitamins and you know like it's it's
vitamins and you know like it's it's [ __ ] complicated I've never done that
[ __ ] complicated I've never done that stuff do you feel good after it yeah I
stuff do you feel good after it yeah I learned it from Dave Chappelle oh in
learned it from Dave Chappelle oh in fact no I have done it yeah you did do
fact no I have done it yeah you did do it yeah one training camp yeah yeah when
it yeah one training camp yeah yeah when uh I would go on the road with Dave Dave
uh I would go on the road with Dave Dave Chappelle parties he's he's drinking all
Chappelle parties he's he's drinking all night and then the next morning he goes
night and then the next morning he goes Joe come on onto my room we're going to
Joe come on onto my room we're going to do some IV vitamin transfusions and I
do some IV vitamin transfusions and I goes this what you do he goes oh yeah
goes this what you do he goes oh yeah you got to do that if you and he gets
you got to do that if you and he gets rid of The Hangover yeah because he does
rid of The Hangover yeah because he does glutathion zinc vitamins try it's great
glutathion zinc vitamins try it's great I got to try it and all the liquid too
I got to try it and all the liquid too just having all that IV saline getting
just having all that IV saline getting into your system rehydrate you well but
into your system rehydrate you well but you feel [ __ ] good I mean it really
you feel [ __ ] good I mean it really brings you back yeah no I will right
brings you back yeah no I will right where where do you get that though say
where where do you get that though say someone like me wanted to try that
someone like me wanted to try that there's a there's a service called drip
there's a there's a service called drip hydration. comom that we would use uh in
hydration. comom that we would use uh in La I know that they um they they they
La I know that they um they they they travel to people they'll do that [ __ ]
travel to people they'll do that [ __ ] for you come you're always doing that
for you come you're always doing that with your neck it's still [ __ ] ah
with your neck it's still [ __ ] ah yeah I'm in pain all the time yeah is
yeah I'm in pain all the time yeah is anything you could do other than uh
anything you could do other than uh surgery that helps that or is you just
surgery that helps that or is you just have to uh probably have you done like
have to uh probably have you done like uh spinal decompression or anything like
uh spinal decompression or anything like that
that yeah no no no yeah I I'm My Own Worst
yeah no no no yeah I I'm My Own Worst Enemy yeah I have a guy going on at me
Enemy yeah I have a guy going on at me all the time about doing some treatment
all the time about doing some treatment on my neck I'm I'm just too busy I
on my neck I'm I'm just too busy I haven't got time I'll be fine a lot of
haven't got time I'll be fine a lot of the time it doesn't help I've really
the time it doesn't help I've really I've done treatment and it hasn't helped
I've done treatment and it hasn't helped you know I used to go to one place every
you know I used to go to one place every week and get worked on two three times a
week and get worked on two three times a week and it never made a difference do
week and it never made a difference do you have with your discs is is there
you have with your discs is is there disc tissue that bulges or is it
disc tissue that bulges or is it deteriorated no I don't think so so it
deteriorated no I don't think so so it was just it was just a nerve being
was just it was just a nerve being pinched I think right by a bulging disc
pinched I think right by a bulging disc right um I'm not sure I don't I don't
right um I'm not sure I don't I don't think I I'm not sure I know a herniation
think I I'm not sure I know a herniation that's what it is but um yeah just the
that's what it is but um yeah just the the the compressed nerve is just causing
the the compressed nerve is just causing issues you might be able to get away
issues you might be able to get away with uh there's a thing called regenicin
with uh there's a thing called regenicin that I did when I had a bulging disc
that I did when I had a bulging disc right I had a bulging disc to the point
right I had a bulging disc to the point where it was making my fingers numb like
where it was making my fingers numb like these two fingers cuz it was the owner
these two fingers cuz it was the owner nerve I guess and it goes like down
nerve I guess and it goes like down through your elbows I would get elbow
through your elbows I would get elbow pain and I didn't I wouldn't think my
pain and I didn't I wouldn't think my neck's [ __ ] up cuz my my I knew my
neck's [ __ ] up cuz my my I knew my neck was [ __ ] up but I was like the
neck was [ __ ] up but I was like the elbow pain what is this and when I got
elbow pain what is this and when I got it checked out it turned out that this
it checked out it turned out that this disc was pushing against the nerves and
disc was pushing against the nerves and that nerve was causing my finger to get
that nerve was causing my finger to get numb and they fixed it with the thing
numb and they fixed it with the thing called regenicin that was like Payton
called regenicin that was like Payton Manning and Kobe BR it's it's like a um
Manning and Kobe BR it's it's like a um a more advanced form of platelet rich
a more advanced form of platelet rich plasma okay so PRP treatments and so
plasma okay so PRP treatments and so they take your blood and they run it
they take your blood and they run it through the centrifuge and they they
through the centrifuge and they they treat it for I think it's 10 hours and
treat it for I think it's 10 hours and then the next day you come back and then
then the next day you come back and then they inject it into the sights like they
they inject it into the sights like they they have these needles that they put
they have these needles that they put into your neck and they they have these
into your neck and they they have these like little screw tops and they screw
like little screw tops and they screw into the top of the needle and they
into the top of the needle and they pushing in there and push it in there
pushing in there and push it in there and it's pushing this liquid that is the
and it's pushing this liquid that is the most potent
most potent anti-inflammatory drug known to man
anti-inflammatory drug known to man apparently and it's made from your own
apparently and it's made from your own blood and so your body accepts it very
blood and so your body accepts it very quickly worry about rejection and it
quickly worry about rejection and it causes those areas to relax and it
causes those areas to relax and it causes the inflammation to to die off
causes the inflammation to to die off and then the disc kind of goes back into
and then the disc kind of goes back into place on its own it worked with me I had
place on its own it worked with me I had a [ __ ] up neck like that for a whole
a [ __ ] up neck like that for a whole year no I remember you're saying uh I
year no I remember you're saying uh I had an epidural just before uh when was
had an epidural just before uh when was it October that worked because I've had
it October that worked because I've had them in the past and it did nothing on
them in the past and it did nothing on this occasion I did one and it worked
this occasion I did one and it worked went went fine the pain went away
went went fine the pain went away completely so I'll probably you might
completely so I'll probably you might want to look into this before you go and
want to look into this before you go and get more surgery on your neck they might
get more surgery on your neck they might be a to fix it there's a place called
be a to fix it there's a place called life uh lifespan lifespan medicine in uh
life uh lifespan lifespan medicine in uh Santa Monica can't believe I couldn't
Santa Monica can't believe I couldn't remember the name maybe I [ __ ] had
remember the name maybe I [ __ ] had injur Lipan but it's um I've went I've
injur Lipan but it's um I've went I've gone to them dozens of times and I've
gone to them dozens of times and I've had uh stem cells done there and PRP or
had uh stem cells done there and PRP or um rather regenicin on my lower back my
um rather regenicin on my lower back my midback and my neck you have a lot of
midback and my neck you have a lot of stuff done I get I'm proactive hey no
stuff done I get I'm proactive hey no good for you good for you I'm the
good for you good for you I'm the opposite I'm too old school like that I
opposite I'm too old school like that I always have been I don't do anything I
always have been I don't do anything I don't I wish I stretched more when I was
don't I wish I stretched more when I was a kid do you know what I mean or when I
a kid do you know what I mean or when I was training because now I can't even
was training because now I can't even reach back here to put my collar down
reach back here to put my collar down when I put a tie on I'm I'm a [ __ ]
when I put a tie on I'm I'm a [ __ ] mess and every Monday I'm like okay
mess and every Monday I'm like okay that's it changing my workouts I'm going
that's it changing my workouts I'm going to do Mobility training going to do this
to do Mobility training going to do this and that and chest and uh chest and
and that and chest and uh chest and biceps let's go come on yeah try to look
biceps let's go come on yeah try to look good I know same [ __ ] um you ever do
good I know same [ __ ] um you ever do yoga that's on the list as well I've
yoga that's on the list as well I've been talking about it with my daughter
been talking about it with my daughter because I'm too I'm too nervous to go do
because I'm too I'm too nervous to go do you know what I mean cuz I've never done
you know what I mean cuz I've never done it before and I don't want to walk into
it before and I don't want to walk into a room and it's all you know bunch of
a room and it's all you know bunch of hot chicks all in lyer and I'm walking
hot chicks all in lyer and I'm walking in belly hanging out bloody trying to
in belly hanging out bloody trying to you know so I said to my daughter I said
you know so I said to my daughter I said would you mind because she goes she
would you mind because she goes she loves it I said I'll come with you one
loves it I said I'll come with you one time would you mind she says no no
time would you mind she says no no absolutely so one day one day this year
absolutely so one day one day this year I'll do it yeah was great it's great I
I'll do it yeah was great it's great I know you love it I do I I haven't done
know you love it I do I I haven't done it in a long time though honestly I I
it in a long time though honestly I I haven't done it since I moved out here
haven't done it since I moved out here but I found a place I'm going to start
but I found a place I'm going to start doing it cuz a lot of my comedian
doing it cuz a lot of my comedian friends out here started doing yoga and
friends out here started doing yoga and they're like God damn man changed my
they're like God damn man changed my life really yeah yeah Cal as well it's a
life really yeah yeah Cal as well it's a great workout and it calms you down who
great workout and it calms you down who is it who uh guy Nick he had the
is it who uh guy Nick he had the Jiu-Jitsu guy from South Africa he had a
Jiu-Jitsu guy from South Africa he had a great quote Greek gentleman he said uh
great quote Greek gentleman he said uh yoga is a martial art that you do on
yoga is a martial art that you do on yourself H interesting yeah makes sense
yourself H interesting yeah makes sense see if we can find the so we could
see if we can find the so we could credit him with that quote cuz I [ __ ]
credit him with that quote cuz I [ __ ] love that quote he was on the podcast
love that quote he was on the podcast way back in the dis he used to be on
way back in the dis he used to be on London re London real yeah I've heard of
London re London real yeah I've heard of that it's a podcast he was one of the
that it's a podcast he was one of the co-host in the early days but he left
co-host in the early days but he left and then the guy who runs it now just by
and then the guy who runs it now just by himself yoga I've been talking about it
himself yoga I've been talking about it for a while got to do it got to give it
for a while got to do it got to give it a
a try how do you say his name
try how do you say his name gregori gregoria
gregori gregoria how do you say that gregoriadis Nick
how do you say that gregoriadis Nick gregoriadis yeah I hope I didn't [ __ ]
gregoriadis yeah I hope I didn't [ __ ] that up sounds about right very nice guy
that up sounds about right very nice guy though and very talented Jiu-Jitsu guy
though and very talented Jiu-Jitsu guy like you're doing yourself fight is not
like you're doing yourself fight is not against nature the fight is against
against nature the fight is against habits yeah tell me about that one yeah
habits yeah tell me about that one yeah I'm fighting against my habits every day
I'm fighting against my habits every day everybody is [ __ ] me that's the battle
everybody is [ __ ] me that's the battle that's the battle with yourself but yoga
that's the battle with yourself but yoga I mean I found out about yoga from Hixon
I mean I found out about yoga from Hixon watching Dixon in that choke documentary
watching Dixon in that choke documentary I was like oh that's one of his Secrets
I was like oh that's one of his Secrets one of his secrets is that he was so
one of his secrets is that he was so good at yoga and essentially you just
good at yoga and essentially you just get way more flexible as well right way
get way more flexible as well right way more flexible way more motion or way
more flexible way more motion or way more Mobility way more um range of
more Mobility way more um range of motion and strength in unusual places
motion and strength in unusual places also the ability to breathe through
also the ability to breathe through tough positions I think that's very
tough positions I think that's very important because yoga involves a lot of
important because yoga involves a lot of breath work did you see that documentary
breath work did you see that documentary on uh was it bickram yoga guy is
on uh was it bickram yoga guy is crazy yeah that is that guy is out of
crazy yeah that is that guy is out of his [ __ ] mind out of his mind drop of
his [ __ ] mind out of his mind drop of my sperm is worth a million dollars
my sperm is worth a million dollars people will give me a million dollars
people will give me a million dollars for one drop I mean the bloody
for one drop I mean the bloody confidence of that guy I know and to say
confidence of that guy I know and to say that with a camera on you imagine camera
that with a camera on you imagine camera porting at you he's like my jiz is worth
porting at you he's like my jiz is worth a million bucks a
a million bucks a drop my God yeah no he was a kind of a
drop my God yeah no he was a kind of a character yeah kind of he's hiding is he
character yeah kind of he's hiding is he really he's on the Run still yeah he's
really he's on the Run still yeah he's can't come to America if he comes to
can't come to America if he comes to America they made a lot of money though
America they made a lot of money though made a lot of money a lot of that's the
made a lot of money a lot of that's the thing is like some people are not all
thing is like some people are not all bad like he's definitely like according
bad like he's definitely like according to these ladies he's a piece of [ __ ] but
to these ladies he's a piece of [ __ ] but he did bring like a style of yoga and
he did bring like a style of yoga and popularize it to America I'm sure
popularize it to America I'm sure changed a lot of people's lives as well
changed a lot of people's lives as well yeah he just got a little carried away
yeah he just got a little carried away well he's [ __ ] insane if you listen
well he's [ __ ] insane if you listen to him talk the guy's an ego remember it
to him talk the guy's an ego remember it too well I mean I did watch it at the
too well I mean I did watch it at the time when it came out but but it's so
time when it came out but but it's so contradictory to what you think about
contradictory to what you think about yoga you think of yoga as being peaceful
yoga you think of yoga as being peaceful and kind and open-minded loving
and kind and open-minded loving spiritual and he's a [ __ ] pervert
spiritual and he's a [ __ ] pervert he's talking about how much is jizz is
he's talking about how much is jizz is worth and just trying to [ __ ] everybody
worth and just trying to [ __ ] everybody it's crazy he's a man come on he's a man
it's crazy he's a man come on he's a man at the end of the day let's be honest
at the end of the day let's be honest he's doing his yoga he's doing all that
he's doing his yoga he's doing all that but it's also like it's all about the
but it's also like it's all about the jizz Joe it is a lot about the jizz but
jizz Joe it is a lot about the jizz but it's also him he had like Bentley's and
it's also him he had like Bentley's and [ __ ] he's like know I know it's not
[ __ ] he's like know I know it's not exct the uh spiritual Guru that you
exct the uh spiritual Guru that you think he is most of them aren't no it's
think he is most of them aren't no it's hard to find the ones that really are
hard to find the ones that really are there's one that I follow on Instagram
there's one that I follow on Instagram now called sad Guru yeah he's coming on
now called sad Guru yeah he's coming on soon is he really follow him too I'm I'm
soon is he really follow him too I'm I'm actually just finishing one of his books
actually just finishing one of his books right oh really yeah he seems very wise
right oh really yeah he seems very wise and very legit and but you never know
and very legit and but you never know that's what I'm saying that that was the
that's what I'm saying that that was the comparison I was making I follow him I
comparison I was making I follow him I like what he says the quotes that he
like what he says the quotes that he comes out with definitely make me think
comes out with definitely make me think all time we both posted the same video
all time we both posted the same video that he uh it was like a video one of
that he uh it was like a video one of the things that he was talking about I
the things that he was talking about I forget what it was but we uh we both
forget what it was but we uh we both posted really okay struck a nerve with
posted really okay struck a nerve with both of us yeah he's uh he's got a lot
both of us yeah he's uh he's got a lot of those there's quite a few of those
of those there's quite a few of those online where you know he says some
online where you know he says some really interesting [ __ ] but so did that
really interesting [ __ ] but so did that Osho guy that guy who ran that cult up
Osho guy that guy who ran that cult up oh here he is oh yeah this is it oh yeah
oh here he is oh yeah this is it oh yeah this is play that real real quick
this is play that real real quick Jamie here we go your whole life is
Jamie here we go your whole life is happening between these three
happening between these three dimensions
dimensions memory present experience and
memory present experience and Imagination this is your life isn't it
Imagination this is your life isn't it these are three dimensions we call them
these are three dimensions we call them triala three dimensions of time all your
triala three dimensions of time all your experience of life is happening here but
experience of life is happening here but if you lose distinction between what is
if you lose distinction between what is past what is present what is future then
past what is present what is future then everything hurts for not everybody
everything hurts for not everybody terrible things have happened
terrible things have happened unfortunately for a few people they have
unfortunately for a few people they have happened but the rest of the people are
happened but the rest of the people are simply suffering something isn't it
simply suffering something isn't it because it's fashionable to suffer
because it's fashionable to suffer people think if they're suffering they
people think if they're suffering they are very intellectual they're very
are very intellectual they're very profound no it's just stupid because
profound no it's just stupid because you're suffering something that doesn't
you're suffering something that doesn't exist you are not suffering what's
exist you are not suffering what's happening right now you suffering what
happening right now you suffering what happened yesterday and you're suffering
happened yesterday and you're suffering something that may happen tomorrow
something that may happen tomorrow already so this madness has been
already so this madness has been encouraged simply because we never train
encouraged simply because we never train people how to use their faculties your
people how to use their faculties your whole life is happening interesting so
whole life is happening interesting so true I mean how many people know know
true I mean how many people know know how to think about things correctly how
how to think about things correctly how to manage the way your mind works it's
to manage the way your mind works it's very important especially if you're
very important especially if you're stressed out yeah absolutely but as he
stressed out yeah absolutely but as he said it is very fashionable these days
said it is very fashionable these days to be suffering you know it is a little
to be suffering you know it is a little bit of attention oh I'm going through
bit of attention oh I'm going through hard times yeah and they love a wallow
hard times yeah and they love a wallow in it oh I feel sorry for
in it oh I feel sorry for themselves I need to pee again Joe I'm
themselves I need to pee again Joe I'm I'm sorry but I Dr a lot of coffee yeah
I'm sorry but I Dr a lot of coffee yeah listen I did too you're all good we'll
listen I did too you're all good we'll be right back once again ladies and
be right back once again ladies and gentlemen when you were fighting you got
gentlemen when you were fighting you got water yeah when you were fighting did
water yeah when you were fighting did you follow any like specific nutrition
you follow any like specific nutrition Pro program or
anything I would love to say yes and I know I'm not sounding very smart here
know I'm not sounding very smart here but I was just no I didn't no no just
but I was just no I didn't no no just old school [ __ ] old school you're old
old school [ __ ] old school you're old school to the to the [ __ ] but I'm I'm
school to the to the [ __ ] but I'm I'm I'm an idiot I'm an idiot no not really
I'm an idiot I'm an idiot no not really I mean a few times I worked with
I mean a few times I worked with nutritionists yeah like I remember when
nutritionists yeah like I remember when I first moved here I got up to like
I first moved here I got up to like 237 was fighting at 185 against Mayhem
237 was fighting at 185 against Mayhem Miller in eight weeks like and it wasn't
Miller in eight weeks like and it wasn't a pretty sight either there's not a
a pretty sight either there's not a jacked
jacked 237 Fury 237 yes there you go you got
237 Fury 237 yes there you go you got the you nailed it Joe uh and yes so I
the you nailed it Joe uh and yes so I work with this nutritionist and it was
work with this nutritionist and it was essentially just a keto diet even though
essentially just a keto diet even though that name wasn't popularized back then
that name wasn't popularized back then I'm sure it was around but it wasn't the
I'm sure it was around but it wasn't the buzz word what it is now but essentially
buzz word what it is now but essentially it was just a keto diet yeah the problem
it was just a keto diet yeah the problem with that diet is uh for the adaptation
with that diet is uh for the adaptation period right after you start it a lot of
period right after you start it a lot of people have a really hard time working
people have a really hard time working out oh it was horrible yeah horrible I
out oh it was horrible yeah horrible I would show up and it would be like
would show up and it would be like everything was like it was in quicksand
everything was like it was in quicksand or underwater you know trying it was
or underwater you know trying it was just so labored NOS no carbs no energy
just so labored NOS no carbs no energy no recovery body aching head to toe yeah
no recovery body aching head to toe yeah it's hard it's a hard way to uh train
it's hard it's a hard way to uh train and get ready for a fight yeah I think
and get ready for a fight yeah I think for a high level performers it's pretty
for a high level performers it's pretty much been established that you need
much been established that you need carbohydrates
carbohydrates have to have it have to have to problem
have to have it have to have to problem is you know even um too many carbs makes
is you know even um too many carbs makes a game weight yeah yeah even my friend
a game weight yeah yeah even my friend Zack bidder Zach is uh he holds the
Zack bidder Zach is uh he holds the world record for the fastest uh 100
world record for the fastest uh 100 miles run on a track wow he ran 100
miles run on a track wow he ran 100 miles in I think it was 11 hours and 40
miles in I think it was 11 hours and 40 minutes and he did it running under a 7
minutes and he did it running under a 7 minute mile so that's like four
minute mile so that's like four marathons almost yeah almost and what
marathons almost yeah almost and what was the time again I think we find out
was the time again I think we find out what Zach's time was he just he just
what Zach's time was he just he just moved a too oh he's 100 I mean just
moved a too oh he's 100 I mean just running 100 miles period regardless of
running 100 miles period regardless of how fast or slow is wild it's wild
how fast or slow is wild it's wild yeah I think is I want to say 1118 11
yeah I think is I want to say 1118 11 hours got a couple hundred mile records
hours got a couple hundred mile records he's also got the one on the treadmill
he's also got the one on the treadmill that's the one that popped up first oh
that's the one that popped up first oh what's that one uh 12 hours 32 minutes
what's that one uh 12 hours 32 minutes yeah he's definitely ran faster on track
yeah he's definitely ran faster on track I think it was 11 hours and hold on so
I think it was 11 hours and hold on so running on the track was faster than the
running on the track was faster than the treadmill it's probably his first one
treadmill it's probably his first one the first time he did it cuz typically a
the first time he did it cuz typically a treadmill is assist a little easier yeah
treadmill is assist a little easier yeah unless yeah have you ever used those
unless yeah have you ever used those ones like the uh airrunner no oh that's
ones like the uh airrunner no oh that's [ __ ] great it's okay current world
[ __ ] great it's okay current world record holder 11 hours 19 minutes that's
record holder 11 hours 19 minutes that's it and 13 seconds 100 miles so that's an
it and 13 seconds 100 miles so that's an under 7 minute mile wow for 11 hours and
under 7 minute mile wow for 11 hours and 19 minutes oh my God he's an animal anal
19 minutes oh my God he's an animal anal that's insane but what I was going to
that's insane but what I was going to get to is that he eats mostly meat oh
get to is that he eats mostly meat oh really he's on like a carnivore diet so
really he's on like a carnivore diet so he mostly eats like fatty ribeye steaks
he mostly eats like fatty ribeye steaks and which is bizarre considering the
and which is bizarre considering the amount that he runs I know but it's he
amount that he runs I know but it's he thinks it's the most nutrient-dense food
thinks it's the most nutrient-dense food and then when he goes to compete and do
and then when he goes to compete and do things like that he'll take like glucose
things like that he'll take like glucose gels right and he'll eat things like
gels right and he'll eat things like that where he gets he gets plenty of
that where he gets he gets plenty of glucose plenty of carbohydrates like the
glucose plenty of carbohydrates like the day of a big event for the most part his
day of a big event for the most part his diet consists of mostly red meat so when
diet consists of mostly red meat so when he's going to compete he carbs up yeah
he's going to compete he carbs up yeah he carbs up like before a big event like
he carbs up like before a big event like running a 100 miles but why only meat
running a 100 miles but why only meat just simply because that's thinks it's
just simply because that's thinks it's the healthiest what he likes and thinks
the healthiest what he likes and thinks it's the healthiest I think it's it's
it's the healthiest I think it's it's really depends upon you I think some for
really depends upon you I think some for some people a vegetable based diet or a
some people a vegetable based diet or a pescatarian diet or some people it's
pescatarian diet or some people it's great that maybe for a while didn't you
great that maybe for a while didn't you I'm doing it now doing it now that's all
I'm doing it now doing it now that's all I do now I I gave up on other diets I
I do now I I gave up on other diets I mean I'll occasionally have
mean I'll occasionally have or some [ __ ] steak steak and eggs steak
or some [ __ ] steak steak and eggs steak and eggs yeah I I take plenty of
and eggs yeah I I take plenty of vitamins I'll take like um I do athletic
vitamins I'll take like um I do athletic greens you know mix that in for water I
greens you know mix that in for water I get vitamins from that I take um I'll
get vitamins from that I take um I'll have berries and fruit I'll eat apples
have berries and fruit I'll eat apples and bananas and stuff like that but
and bananas and stuff like that but that's it I don't [ __ ] with any bread I
that's it I don't [ __ ] with any bread I don't [ __ ] with any carbohydrates like
don't [ __ ] with any carbohydrates like Brit pasta stuff like that it's
Brit pasta stuff like that it's delicious though the best the best I
delicious though the best the best I know I know the most delicious p is it
know I know the most delicious p is it is the enemy it is but I eat the same
is the enemy it is but I eat the same [ __ ] every day I try and go till about
[ __ ] every day I try and go till about 2:00 2:00 p.m. in the afternoon
2:00 2:00 p.m. in the afternoon sometimes intermittent fast yeah yeah
sometimes intermittent fast yeah yeah not every day not every day and I'm not
not every day not every day and I'm not psycho with it but I try to because I
psycho with it but I try to because I just feel more alert when I haven't
just feel more alert when I haven't eaten when I'm fasting uh but then it's
eaten when I'm fasting uh but then it's always chicken sausages eggs bacon
always chicken sausages eggs bacon that's it yeah and then a little low
that's it yeah and then a little low carb wrap bad I got to roll it up you
carb wrap bad I got to roll it up you know make a little sandwich out of it
know make a little sandwich out of it but yeah yeah if you put a bowl of
but yeah yeah if you put a bowl of spaghetti with like sausage in front of
spaghetti with like sausage in front of me I will scarf that [ __ ] down
me I will scarf that [ __ ] down yeah that's my weakness is pasta and
yeah that's my weakness is pasta and pizza weakness I eat pretty
pizza weakness I eat pretty good but well you you stay lean I drink
good but well you you stay lean I drink too much still I don't drink a lot I
too much still I don't drink a lot I don't I don't I don't get hammered I
don't I don't I don't get hammered I don't you know I know I have this
don't you know I know I have this reputation but I don't go out getting
reputation but I don't go out getting shitfaced I used to I used to that's for
shitfaced I used to I used to that's for damn sure you know but no but I still a
damn sure you know but no but I still a little bit of wine in the evening which
little bit of wine in the evening which which is pointless you're [ __ ]
which is pointless you're [ __ ] fasting all day but you're not fasting
fasting all day but you're not fasting because you you're drinking wine right
because you you're drinking wine right before you go to bed you know you
before you go to bed you know you shouldn't eat three hours was before I
shouldn't eat three hours was before I know you're not supposed to but when I
know you're not supposed to but when I have a steak with a glass of wine it
have a steak with a glass of wine it makes me so happy you got to have a
makes me so happy you got to have a glass of red wine with a steak come on
glass of red wine with a steak come on it tastes so good it's like what are we
it tastes so good it's like what are we doing here I know that's I can't have a
doing here I know that's I can't have a [ __ ] glass of wine with a steak
[ __ ] glass of wine with a steak serious what the [ __ ] the point work
serious what the [ __ ] the point work my ass off and get to this point in my
my ass off and get to this point in my life and not allow myself to have a
life and not allow myself to have a glass of wine I remember watching George
glass of wine I remember watching George there was a a video that they did one of
there was a a video that they did one of those UFC Unleashed or whatever the [ __ ]
those UFC Unleashed or whatever the [ __ ] it was was like they would interview his
it was was like they would interview his him while he was on his training camp
him while he was on his training camp and then they went out to dinner with
and then they went out to dinner with him and then he was having a glass of
him and then he was having a glass of wine after training he was like I don't
wine after training he was like I don't think is anything wrong with a glass of
think is anything wrong with a glass of wine after a long training
wine after a long training session it's a good Jo it's terrible no
session it's a good Jo it's terrible no it's good it's good right here I'd
it's good it's good right here I'd listen to you
listen to you intoxicated um yeah but said to you yeah
intoxicated um yeah but said to you yeah that's what he said to me you were a
that's what he said to me you were a little I [ __ ] was without a shadow of
little I [ __ ] was without a shadow of a doubt without a shadow of a doubt I'm
a doubt without a shadow of a doubt I'm in Las Vegas yeah we're not fighting we
in Las Vegas yeah we're not fighting we haven't even got a date right we haven't
haven't even got a date right we haven't even got a date for the fight if you man
even got a date for the fight if you man up and tell me a date for the fight
up and tell me a date for the fight I'll switch on right but I'm in Las
I'll switch on right but I'm in Las Vegas and I've got nothing to do have a
Vegas and I've got nothing to do have a couple of
couple of be and one leads to another and from
be and one leads to another and from there it's a slippery slop and then all
there it's a slippery slop and then all of a sudden you're showing up for a
of a sudden you're showing up for a press conference late Michael you're are
press conference late Michael you're are intoxicated what is your problem like
intoxicated what is your problem like shut up George leave me alone stop
shut up George leave me alone stop bullying me well George would drink a
bullying me well George would drink a glass of wine he would have a a nice
glass of wine he would have a a nice glass of wi for yeah he would do that he
glass of wi for yeah he would do that he would do that when he was uh when he was
would do that when he was uh when he was training you know I mean in middle of
training you know I mean in middle of Camp he'd have a glass of wine supposed
Camp he'd have a glass of wine supposed to be good for you good for your heart I
to be good for you good for your heart I think when you're training that much
think when you're training that much whatever negative aspect whenever
whatever negative aspect whenever negative thing the alcohol does it's
negative thing the alcohol does it's probably balanced out by the fact that
probably balanced out by the fact that it relaxes you you know takes a little
it relaxes you you know takes a little the edge off maybe sleep a little easier
the edge off maybe sleep a little easier I never used to drink in Camp ever but
I never used to drink in Camp ever but there was always one night where I'd
there was always one night where I'd [ __ ] up you you know what I mean every
[ __ ] up you you know what I mean every Camp there was always one night I like
Camp there was always one night I like and it would start with that I'll have a
and it would start with that I'll have a glass of wine at least and then a second
glass of wine at least and then a second glass of wine and the next minute I've
glass of wine and the next minute I've done two bottles I'm like
done two bottles I'm like [ __ ] how far out oh halfway through the
[ __ ] how far out oh halfway through the camp okay you know well Jon Jones said a
camp okay you know well Jon Jones said a thing that was really interesting when I
thing that was really interesting when I talked to him he said that he would
talked to him he said that he would self- sabotage before a fight so he'd
self- sabotage before a fight so he'd give himself an excuse if he lost I've
give himself an excuse if he lost I've seen people do that there was a guy a
seen people do that there was a guy a friend of mine shall remained nameless
friend of mine shall remained nameless and MMA was his life and he was so
and MMA was his life and he was so talented he was so good and he got an
talented he was so good and he got an opportunity to go on The Ultimate
opportunity to go on The Ultimate Fighter he was sorry he was going to uh
Fighter he was sorry he was going to uh you know they have those auditions but
you know they have those auditions but he had a great personality tremendous
he had a great personality tremendous wrestler sick Jiu-Jitsu good striking he
wrestler sick Jiu-Jitsu good striking he would have killed it the night before
would have killed it the night before because I I was uh I was doing something
because I I was uh I was doing something I came back in the morning he was going
I came back in the morning he was going to the airport he could hardly string a
to the airport he could hardly string a sentence together he was so [ __ ] up
sentence together he was so [ __ ] up and he would do things like that every
and he would do things like that every time like me and my wife saying why does
time like me and my wife saying why does he self- sabotage like that do you know
he self- sabotage like that do you know what me some people just do well it's
what me some people just do well it's some people the pressure of performance
some people the pressure of performance is just too great their their mind plays
is just too great their their mind plays tricks on them and they like you know
tricks on them and they like you know sad Guru had to say some people just
sad Guru had to say some people just don't know how to use their faculties
don't know how to use their faculties and so when their mind plays tricks on
and so when their mind plays tricks on them and they start having all the
them and they start having all the stress that they have to handle they
stress that they have to handle they don't know how to just relax and just go
don't know how to just relax and just go Yep this is part of the process and it's
Yep this is part of the process and it's an easier way to confront the failure
an easier way to confront the failure yes as opposed to them just not being
yes as opposed to them just not being good enough right they've got a reason
good enough right they've got a reason why they failed right you know well John
why they failed right you know well John admitted that Adit I mean it was easy
admitted that Adit I mean it was easy for him to admit because he never lost
for him to admit because he never lost right oh he had done that every time but
right oh he had done that every time but never lost but then you know that's a
never lost but then you know that's a thing like like what is going on there
thing like like what is going on there like why are you doing that like why are
like why are you doing that like why are you partying the week before a giant
you partying the week before a giant fight like one of the things that he
fight like one of the things that he said with with Daniel corm it was kind
said with with Daniel corm it was kind of hilarious and he goes I did Coke and
of hilarious and he goes I did Coke and kicked your ass I know I know that's a
kicked your ass I know I know that's a little insulting isn't
little insulting isn't it you know you take yourself very
it you know you take yourself very seriously and this guy's out there doing
seriously and this guy's out there doing cocaine and partying all week and
cocaine and partying all week and [ __ ] up everybody Wild
[ __ ] up everybody Wild when he was at the top his [ __ ]
when he was at the top his [ __ ] Talent was so undeniable I mean when he
Talent was so undeniable I mean when he I remember I was in NK when he fought uh
I remember I was in NK when he fought uh Shogun and so he's 22 years old he's
Shogun and so he's 22 years old he's fighting for the title youngest ever
fighting for the title youngest ever champion and he you know Shogun was a
champion and he you know Shogun was a legend he opens up the fight with a
legend he opens up the fight with a flying knee a flying knee he just
flying knee a flying knee he just destroyed it beat the [ __ ] out of Shogun
destroyed it beat the [ __ ] out of Shogun the fact that he was that young and that
the fact that he was that young and that good what do you think he does a
good what do you think he does a heavyweight we have to see you know it's
heavyweight we have to see you know it's a different world it's a different world
a different world it's a different world first of all that he doesn't have to cut
first of all that he doesn't have to cut weight anymore so maybe he's way
weight anymore so maybe he's way healthier maybe it's way better but it's
healthier maybe it's way better but it's a different world with the power you
a different world with the power you know I mean if he goes right into enanu
know I mean if he goes right into enanu if they set that up right away I mean I
if they set that up right away I mean I don't know what's ever happened to him
don't know what's ever happened to him in training camp what kind of uh giant
in training camp what kind of uh giant heavy weights he's ever sparred with I
heavy weights he's ever sparred with I me maybe he's been hit by big guys like
me maybe he's been hit by big guys like that before I don't know I mean John
that before I don't know I mean John always could take a tremendous shot he
always could take a tremendous shot he said at the hall of fame thing that he
said at the hall of fame thing that he was right before he got arrested that he
was right before he got arrested that he was 65 yeah I mean is that going to slow
was 65 yeah I mean is that going to slow him down he's going to be the same it's
him down he's going to be the same it's going to have an effect on his cardio
going to have an effect on his cardio you know that that's what I mean what is
you know that that's what I mean what is he going to do it heavy with there so
he going to do it heavy with there so many questions I would assume that he's
many questions I would assume that he's going to do great because listen he's a
going to do great because listen he's a great fighter look how great he's been
great fighter look how great he's been in the past yeah do you know what I mean
in the past yeah do you know what I mean there's not that's not going to go away
there's not that's not going to go away this isn't going to go away the
this isn't going to go away the aggression the ability to pull the
aggression the ability to pull the trigger when he needs so what it's going
trigger when he needs so what it's going to be a bit
to be a bit bigger all the Intel that I've ever got
bigger all the Intel that I've ever got from guys who trained with him said he
from guys who trained with him said he would raged all heavyweights and he was
would raged all heavyweights and he was doing it while was a light heavyweight
doing it while was a light heavyweight champion he would throw heavy weights
champion he would throw heavy weights around people like you don't know how
around people like you don't know how good John really is out of Camp you
good John really is out of Camp you light heavyweights are heavyweights yes
light heavyweights are heavyweights yes you know what I mean he's probably
you know what I mean he's probably walking around 230 235 that's a good
walking around 230 235 that's a good size heavyweight comparing me Kane right
size heavyweight comparing me Kane right Kane with a significant amount of body
Kane with a significant amount of body fat was always in the 240s yeah you know
fat was always in the 240s yeah you know and he's one of the greatest of all time
and he's one of the greatest of all time I mean look at Fedor when Fedor is at
I mean look at Fedor when Fedor is at his top he was like that about 240 oh
his top he was like that about 240 oh fedo could have made 205 easily easily
fedo could have made 205 easily easily not that big a guy
not that big a guy yeah there's a lot of guys that just
yeah there's a lot of guys that just don't want to cut the weight
don't want to cut the weight or you know they didn't have that's
or you know they didn't have that's that's what I was just about to say
that's what I was just about to say they're comfortable so no [ __ ] that I
they're comfortable so no [ __ ] that I don't need to do that I'm H they I want
don't need to do that I'm H they I want to fight the bigger guys I want to be a
to fight the bigger guys I want to be a heavyweight you know it's it's a
heavyweight you know it's it's a interesting conversations like what is
interesting conversations like what is the optimum weight for heavyweight you
the optimum weight for heavyweight you know and the everybody would say it was
know and the everybody would say it was around 240 until inano came around and
around 240 until inano came around and then you're like you do not want to give
then you're like you do not want to give up 25 pounds to that man Greg Hardy
up 25 pounds to that man Greg Hardy started his cut on Tuesday at 295 pounds
started his cut on Tuesday at 295 pounds wow 295 I mean what are you doing I mean
wow 295 I mean what are you doing I mean I'm not criticizing the man he's just a
I'm not criticizing the man he's just a big guy obviously but's huge you're at
big guy obviously but's huge you're at heavy weight you don't have to cut
heavy weight you don't have to cut weight but then you cut maybe a few
weight but then you cut maybe a few pounds I know tiu ofasa does a few
pounds I know tiu ofasa does a few pounds there's lots of heavy weights
pounds there's lots of heavy weights that are over 265 yeah but coming in and
that are over 265 yeah but coming in and having to do a 30 pound weight cut as a
having to do a 30 pound weight cut as a heavyweight that's insane yeah how about
heavyweight that's insane yeah how about [ __ ] Tai to evasa taking out dck
[ __ ] Tai to evasa taking out dck Lewis like that that's wild wasn't that
Lewis like that that's wild wasn't that wild he's really turned a corner yeah
wild he's really turned a corner yeah he's really turned a corner he's always
he's really turned a corner he's always been a great fighter and fun to watch
been a great fighter and fun to watch but there's something over the last like
but there's something over the last like four fights that that [ __ ] guy's
four fights that that [ __ ] guy's really turned the corner well he's been
really turned the corner well he's been in trading in Dubai and I don't know if
in trading in Dubai and I don't know if that's what it is I don't know if he's
that's what it is I don't know if he's technically getting better or things
technically getting better or things like that but he's definitely been in
like that but he's definitely been in Dubai for a while came to the UFC was
Dubai for a while came to the UFC was doing great had flying knee Knockouts
doing great had flying knee Knockouts and stuff like that and then lost to
and stuff like that and then lost to Sergey pavlovich was it you got I think
Sergey pavlovich was it you got I think he got choked out by him he had a couple
he got choked out by him he had a couple of bad losses and he was like oh all
of bad losses and he was like oh all right but then now now he looks like a
right but then now now he looks like a he is a contender does it look like a
he is a contender does it look like a contender he's a contender you beat
contender he's a contender you beat Derrick Lewis like that you're top three
Derrick Lewis like that you're top three right absolutely you know it's funny
right absolutely you know it's funny it's a face planed in Houston I know in
it's a face planed in Houston I know in his hometown what that fight was crazy
his hometown what that fight was crazy watching on television but the Roar of
watching on television but the Roar of the crowd and the commentary and
the crowd and the commentary and everything you couldn't hear the thuds
everything you couldn't hear the thuds of the shots somebody has a video it
of the shots somebody has a video it seems like cell phone video that is like
seems like cell phone video that is like right like right there cage side of
right like right there cage side of Lewis hitting him on the ground or both
Lewis hitting him on the ground or both them both of them hitting each other
them both of them hitting each other they're in the middle of the slugfest
they're in the middle of the slugfest it's like a shitty cell phone video but
it's like a shitty cell phone video but you hear the w w the the shots they were
you hear the w w the the shots they were landing on each other cuz those shots
landing on each other cuz those shots that LS hit Tai with when he was down I
that LS hit Tai with when he was down I was like oh cuz I like Ty I mean how can
was like oh cuz I like Ty I mean how can you not like Ty and I like Derek Lewis
you not like Ty and I like Derek Lewis of course as well but I just I know Ty a
of course as well but I just I know Ty a little bit better do you know what I
little bit better do you know what I mean were friendly you know what I mean
mean were friendly you know what I mean oh [ __ ] poor guy is survived he's about
oh [ __ ] poor guy is survived he's about to be finished and he just said nope
to be finished and he just said nope screw this and then come up guns blazing
screw this and then come up guns blazing just swinging for the fences when he
just swinging for the fences when he stood up he didn't like stand up and run
stood up he didn't like stand up and run and try to get out there he got up and
and try to get out there he got up and fought fire with fire the shots that he
fought fire with fire the shots that he ate from the biggest knockout artist in
ate from the biggest knockout artist in the history of the heavyweight division
the history of the heavyweight division Derrick Lewis has knocked out more human
Derrick Lewis has knocked out more human beings than anyone in the history of the
beings than anyone in the history of the [ __ ] sport crazy clean as well oh
[ __ ] sport crazy clean as well oh dead Curtis blades no no no but I mean
dead Curtis blades no no no but I mean without juice oh yeah yeah yeah oh
without juice oh yeah yeah yeah oh without juice dude he told me has low
without juice dude he told me has low testosterone like VTO bfor he was he 12
testosterone like VTO bfor he was he 12 you know when he beat who who did dere
you know when he beat who who did dere knockout off UFC 12 ders UFC uh Chris
knockout off UFC 12 ders UFC uh Chris ders when he beat Chris Doras I
ders when he beat Chris Doras I interviewed him on the mic and he said I
interviewed him on the mic and he said I said you've now got 13 Knockouts in the
said you've now got 13 Knockouts in the UFC the most in history he said yeah did
UFC the most in history he said yeah did it clean as well he did do it clean yeah
it clean as well he did do it clean yeah and he told me when he was on the
and he told me when he was on the podcast that he got tested and he has
podcast that he got tested and he has low testosterone really and I was like
low testosterone really and I was like how the [ __ ] do you have low T how's
how the [ __ ] do you have low T how's that even possible when we used to have
that even possible when we used to have UFC tonight you know that show on
UFC tonight you know that show on Wednesday night uh they did had a little
Wednesday night uh they did had a little phase they had one of those old punch
phase they had one of those old punch bag machines oh yeah yeah like you see
bag machines oh yeah yeah like you see at the fa ground yeah and everyone that
at the fa ground yeah and everyone that came on you know we would put them on
came on you know we would put them on that Derek Lewis hit that thing right
that Derek Lewis hit that thing right and I swear to God when when the ball
and I swear to God when when the ball goes up and hits like the frame you know
goes up and hits like the frame you know the metal thing the thing say if this is
the metal thing the thing say if this is the base when when it hit ever so
the base when when it hit ever so slightly came off the ground that's how
slightly came off the ground that's how hard he hit that [ __ ] ball hit it
hard he hit that [ __ ] ball hit it like that and then just a little bit off
like that and then just a little bit off the ground I was like holy [ __ ] I would
the ground I was like holy [ __ ] I would like to see him punch that machine that
like to see him punch that machine that the Apex Center has you know that
the Apex Center has you know that Francis andano has a
Francis andano has a record 4 miles hour or something I don't
record 4 miles hour or something I don't know if that's real though no May
know if that's real though no May doesn't make sense I think the math is
doesn't make sense I think the math is screwy you know why the math is screwy
screwy you know why the math is screwy cuz I beat that with a kick whatever
cuz I beat that with a kick whatever that number is that he hit with a punch
that number is that he hit with a punch saw yeah I hit it harder with a kick so
saw yeah I hit it harder with a kick so there's no way I kick like a escort
there's no way I kick like a escort that's not true it was only a roundhouse
that's not true it was only a roundhouse kick it wasn't like a turning sidekick
kick it wasn't like a turning sidekick or anything so I think they're M like
or anything so I think they're M like when Dana was saying that I was like
when Dana was saying that I was like Dana you might want to stop saying
Dana you might want to stop saying that just check your F yeah I think you
that just check your F yeah I think you might want to talk to a scientist
might want to talk to a scientist whoever's you know it's not like Dana
whoever's you know it's not like Dana and I are out there with lab coats on no
and I are out there with lab coats on no for sure
for sure exactly and who's tested how hard a Ford
exactly and who's tested how hard a Ford Escort hits as well who's getting hit by
Escort hits as well who's getting hit by yeah exactly yeah I don't think so I
yeah exactly yeah I don't think so I think if they drove a Ford Escort going
think if they drove a Ford Escort going 30 mph into that [ __ ] Punch machine
30 mph into that [ __ ] Punch machine it wasit yeah it would obliterate fly
it wasit yeah it would obliterate fly apart there's no way that's the same
apart there's no way that's the same amount of force it's not possible into a
amount of force it's not possible into a fist way come on you're going to go
fist way come on you're going to go through the person yeah it's not there's
through the person yeah it's not there's no way there's no way I mean it's
no way there's no way I mean it's [ __ ] crazy power CRA power but it's
[ __ ] crazy power CRA power but it's there's no way no I I have bad memories
there's no way no I I have bad memories hitting those things I remember at a
hitting those things I remember at a Fairground I went to hit and I missed
Fairground I went to hit and I missed and I hit the base I did that I [ __ ] my
and I hit the base I did that I [ __ ] my knuckle up I do the same thing I hit the
knuckle up I do the same thing I hit the the thing on top of it yeah exactly
the thing on top of it yeah exactly exactly yeah those things are stupid
exactly yeah those things are stupid there's a funny video though of a girl
there's a funny video though of a girl doing it and she swings and hits her
doing it and she swings and hits her boyfriend right in the face and his face
boyfriend right in the face and his face is so far away from that bag you got to
is so far away from that bag you got to go I wonder I was going to say how do
go I wonder I was going to say how do you miss that and hit your boyfriend in
you miss that and hit your boyfriend in the face she stepped in like stepped
the face she stepped in like stepped forward swung missed the bag entirely
forward swung missed the bag entirely and hit him right in the chin if I was
and hit him right in the chin if I was him and I saw that video I'd be super
him and I saw that video I'd be super suspicious yeah I mean I haven't seen it
suspicious yeah I mean I haven't seen it can we get it up Jamie by any chance I
can we get it up Jamie by any chance I would like to see this cuz I'm I'm
would like to see this cuz I'm I'm trying to give some input on it I mean
trying to give some input on it I mean it could be just terrible timing and bad
it could be just terrible timing and bad luck and all the above but there's
luck and all the above but there's something about the way she connects
something about the way she connects right on his [ __ ] face that makes me
right on his [ __ ] face that makes me wonder I'm going to say a good shot as
wonder I'm going to say a good shot as well it's a good shot oh yeah not a bad
well it's a good shot oh yeah not a bad shot I mean she steps into it and
shot I mean she steps into it and everything misses the bag you f here go
everything misses the bag you f here go this is it this is it see look how far
this is it this is it see look how far away his faces he's nowhere near nowhere
away his faces he's nowhere near nowhere near watch
near watch this oh come on come on do you think
this oh come on come on do you think that was one of those you know these
that was one of those you know these stupid social media pranks where they're
stupid social media pranks where they're trying to pretend cuz these do you think
trying to pretend cuz these do you think so yes let me see it again Jamie let me
so yes let me see it again Jamie let me see if he really gets hit let's break it
see if he really gets hit let's break it down we we'll figure it out here yeah
down we we'll figure it out here yeah here we go let's break it down he's nice
here we go let's break it down he's nice and slow what's he looking at he's
and slow what's he looking at he's looking at the bag no he's not or
looking at the bag no he's not or looking at the counter maybe why cuz he
looking at the counter maybe why cuz he wants to see what her number is why is
wants to see what her number is why is he there cuz he's their boyfriend that's
he there cuz he's their boyfriend that's not the best place to stand well it's
not the best place to stand well it's not a bad place to stand if someone's
not a bad place to stand if someone's actually hitting the back place to stand
actually hitting the back place to stand to be in frame right right I see okay
to be in frame right right I see okay let's let's let's see the impact here we
let's let's let's see the impact here we go slow it down and d d d yeah doesn't
go slow it down and d d d yeah doesn't look oh it's an uppercut as well oh no
look oh it's an uppercut as well oh no it's a h he she [ __ ] hits him also for
it's a h he she [ __ ] hits him also for the views but it's a it's a hook right
the views but it's a it's a hook right so if that if I'm trying to hit the
so if that if I'm trying to hit the microphone there she's coming off to the
microphone there she's coming off to the side yeah she's not even aimed at the
side yeah she's not even aimed at the back now she already turned towards him
back now she already turned towards him let me
let me see but she's looking at the back dude
see but she's looking at the back dude well look watch again watch your feet
well look watch again watch your feet watch feet watch your feet as she turns
watch feet watch your feet as she turns towards him mhm okay here we go here's
towards him mhm okay here we go here's the wind up she's just getting closer
the wind up she's just getting closer and closer I think she just sucks I
and closer I think she just sucks I think she sucks she hit him right in the
think she sucks she hit him right in the face dude I think she sucks and she hit
face dude I think she sucks and she hit him right in the face or She [ __ ]
him right in the face or She [ __ ] hates him and she wanted to hit him I
hates him and she wanted to hit him I mean if you swing a punch hard as you
mean if you swing a punch hard as you can and you don't know what you're doing
can and you don't know what you're doing you're going to be off balance yeah you
you're going to be off balance yeah you know if you're swinging all heym cuz
know if you're swinging all heym cuz it's not I mean it's a bad mess but it's
it's not I mean it's a bad mess but it's not I don't know plausible I think you
not I don't know plausible I think you you want you really wouldn't believe
you want you really wouldn't believe this go ahead I think he's totally I
this go ahead I think he's totally I mean what kind of man lets a woman haul
mean what kind of man lets a woman haul off and punch him in the face like that
off and punch him in the face like that just for a Tik Tok video how you get
just for a Tik Tok video how you get that money there's a lot of how much
that money there's a lot of how much money depends on how viral you go come
money depends on how viral you go come on how viral is that he but people just
on how viral is that he but people just share that and steal it and now we're
share that and steal it and now we're talking about it on the show there you
talking about it on the show there you go you know and who would do that but
go you know and who would do that but this is Jamie Jamie Captain tinfoil he
this is Jamie Jamie Captain tinfoil he puts that tinfoil hat on somebody told
puts that tinfoil hat on somebody told me on Twitter today they oh make sure
me on Twitter today they oh make sure you bring your tinfoil hat today oh
you bring your tinfoil hat today oh that's funny yeah they think I talk
that's funny yeah they think I talk about a lot of conspiracy theories I
about a lot of conspiracy theories I guess I do but if you look if you talk
guess I do but if you look if you talk long we the conspiracy guys we think
long we the conspiracy guys we think this is a conspiracy you're like no it's
this is a conspiracy you're like no it's true it seems true to me the way he hits
true it seems true to me the way he hits her it's or she hits him rather she's
her it's or she hits him rather she's hitting him full blast in the right in
hitting him full blast in the right in the kisser he takes it well not really I
the kisser he takes it well not really I mean what if that video keeps going on
mean what if that video keeps going on and he just crumples to his KNE
and he just crumples to his KNE delayed Knockouts you know smacks it
delayed Knockouts you know smacks it back there's some uh good [ __ ] fights
back there's some uh good [ __ ] fights this weekend Mike um oh yeah half dos
this weekend Mike um oh yeah half dos anos is fighting hanato moano that's
anos is fighting hanato moano that's another good one I think that's a
another good one I think that's a catchweight fight 160 yeah why is that
catchweight fight 160 yeah why is that who took it short notice Mell Tuesday oh
who took it short notice Mell Tuesday oh took it on Tuesday yeah I think I'm
took it on Tuesday yeah I think I'm right in saying that I'm pretty
right in saying that I'm pretty confident who was supposed to fight
confident who was supposed to fight rapael FIV oh he's got Co oh he's got Co
rapael FIV oh he's got Co oh he's got Co yeah he's got Co yeah yeah I saw tweet
yeah he's got Co yeah yeah I saw tweet from him and and a picture he's in bed
from him and and a picture he's in bed he's got chills and oh bones are aching
he's got chills and oh bones are aching and stuff so yeah he just flew from
and stuff so yeah he just flew from Thailand I think to get here and got
Thailand I think to get here and got here and came down with covid oh that
here and came down with covid oh that sucks that sucks I thought Islam was
sucks that sucks I thought Islam was going to step
going to step in that would have been amazing oh my
in that would have been amazing oh my God if he just fought and then fought
God if he just fought and then fought again but he's so close to a title shot
again but he's so close to a title shot that seems crazy like what if he turns
that seems crazy like what if he turns an ankle and [ __ ] his you know who
an ankle and [ __ ] his you know who knows yeah you he's right there I feel
knows yeah you he's right there I feel like I feel like in a like also I heard
like I feel like in a like also I heard I heard Dana say that Islam's going to
I heard Dana say that Islam's going to fight benil darush next really yes I
fight benil darush next really yes I asked him that in the ring I said would
asked him that in the ring I said would you comp contemplate that fight again I
you comp contemplate that fight again I forget what he said now I think he said
forget what he said now I think he said no he said yeah I'm just focusing on the
no he said yeah I'm just focusing on the Belt but then Dana said this week that
Belt but then Dana said this week that Connor will probably fight for the belt
Connor will probably fight for the belt didn't say probably said May fight for
didn't say probably said May fight for the belt upon his return that is so
the belt upon his return that is so crazy Islam makev must fight benil
crazy Islam makev must fight benil darush next since he turned down dos
darush next since he turned down dos anos oh so he turned him down this week
anos oh so he turned him down this week after he allegedly flip flopped on a
after he allegedly flip flopped on a short notice replacement fight on
short notice replacement fight on Saturday what so he's punishing them for
Saturday what so he's punishing them for not doing something stupid because
not doing something stupid because that's not a wise move to fight in the
that's not a wise move to fight in the main event you're you're right about to
main event you're you're right about to fight for the
fight for the title AG wow he put his hand up to fight
title AG wow he put his hand up to fight dos angos in a bout that has been
dos angos in a bout that has been canceled three times before dos angos
canceled three times before dos angos was all in on the situation even offered
was all in on the situation even offered to move up to welterweight to alleviate
to move up to welterweight to alleviate the pressure off makev for a big weight
the pressure off makev for a big weight cut the momentum died there though
cut the momentum died there though because shortly thereafter it was
because shortly thereafter it was confirmed that Han hanata moano would
confirmed that Han hanata moano would fight uh dos Angelos the former UFC
fight uh dos Angelos the former UFC champ and makev subsequently blamed each
champ and makev subsequently blamed each other for the falling out UFC president
other for the falling out UFC president Dana White offers some clarity and he
Dana White offers some clarity and he pointed the finger at makev and said
pointed the finger at makev and said that his team said the fight is not
that his team said the fight is not happening he said uh I thought we had it
happening he said uh I thought we had it done white said when I went to bed one
done white said when I went to bed one of the nights before I thought it was
of the nights before I thought it was done woke up the next morning and found
done woke up the next morning and found out that makev turned it down the thing
out that makev turned it down the thing is if makev beat dos Angel right after
is if makev beat dos Angel right after he beat Bobby green like that I mean
he beat Bobby green like that I mean he's undeniable there's no question he I
he's undeniable there's no question he I mean he's on a 10 fight win streak as it
mean he's on a 10 fight win streak as it is and he looks like a monster I mean it
is and he looks like a monster I mean it seems like a good fight for him like d
seems like a good fight for him like d Sano no disrespect but it seems like for
Sano no disrespect but it seems like for makev he's he's looked so good the way I
makev he's he's looked so good the way I mean the way he looked against Drew
mean the way he looked against Drew Dober the way he looked against Dan
Dober the way he looked against Dan hooker I mean he's a [ __ ] killer man
hooker I mean he's a [ __ ] killer man I talked myself into thinking that Bobby
I talked myself into thinking that Bobby green was going to have a real shot in
green was going to have a real shot in that fight I thought oh you look at the
that fight I thought oh you look at the uh the the wrestling that bobb's got you
uh the the wrestling that bobb's got you know he's going to come into this one
know he's going to come into this one with no pressure he's got nothing to
with no pressure he's got nothing to lose everybody's already kissing his ass
lose everybody's already kissing his ass wow what a warrior stepping up last
wow what a warrior stepping up last minute he can box he's got experience
minute he can box he's got experience I'm like Bobby green might do this he
I'm like Bobby green might do this he [ __ ] went straight through him like
[ __ ] went straight through him like he was nothing no offense Bobby but um
he was nothing no offense Bobby but um he's an animal I would like to see Bobby
he's an animal I would like to see Bobby green fight him with a full Camp you
green fight him with a full Camp you know when Bobby green had just gotten
know when Bobby green had just gotten off of um the fight hasperat and he he
off of um the fight hasperat and he he fought a tough fight goes the full
fought a tough fight goes the full distance three rounds and then right
distance three rounds and then right after that it's like a short amount of
after that it's like a short amount of time later you know he gets 10 days
time later you know he gets 10 days notice to fight makev and I think he was
notice to fight makev and I think he was like 190 something yeah before he began
like 190 something yeah before he began the cut well the thing is I mean what
the cut well the thing is I mean what was so impressive about mahv was because
was so impressive about mahv was because you know you're up against the fence
you know you're up against the fence you're fighting for under Hooks and all
you're fighting for under Hooks and all the rest of it and that typically
the rest of it and that typically becomes a little bit of a stalemate
becomes a little bit of a stalemate there but when he level changed from
there but when he level changed from having an under hook level change to the
having an under hook level change to the legs people try and do that but normally
legs people try and do that but normally people people get an under hook in and
people people get an under hook in and that's it you can't get but the speed of
that's it you can't get but the speed of what Islam did it and was just it was
what Islam did it and was just it was light lightning it was his together too
light lightning it was his together too [ __ ] his control is epic but Bobby did
[ __ ] his control is epic but Bobby did avoid the Tak down the first takedown
avoid the Tak down the first takedown attempt yes and you know Bobby see I
attempt yes and you know Bobby see I just it's so hard man when a guy takes a
just it's so hard man when a guy takes a fight on 10 days notice I say to the man
fight on 10 days notice I say to the man who won the UFC middleweight title on
who won the UFC middleweight title on what 11 days notice how many days notice
what 11 days notice how many days notice did you get it was two weeks notice but
did you get it was two weeks notice but I still had to finish filming this movie
I still had to finish filming this movie I was on so I had a couple of days
I was on so I had a couple of days filming still I don't know two weeks two
filming still I don't know two weeks two yeah so somewhere at the same range and
yeah so somewhere at the same range and you won the title so it is what it is
you won the title so it is what it is Styles made fights though is the makev
Styles made fights though is the makev ain't gonna stand and go Toe to Toe with
ain't gonna stand and go Toe to Toe with you right and if he does he the thing is
you right and if he does he the thing is he can do that too that's the thing
he can do that too that's the thing about makev it's like his standup is
about makev it's like his standup is Elite it's very good it's very very good
Elite it's very good it's very very good um but uh 10 fights in a row I mean it
um but uh 10 fights in a row I mean it would have been great it would have been
would have been great it would have been really impressive and sexy and great for
really impressive and sexy and great for the fans if he did that because I
the fans if he did that because I thought that would be the fight that UFC
thought that would be the fight that UFC would try and make and it looks like it
would try and make and it looks like it was if Dana said that that marev now has
was if Dana said that that marev now has to fight benil darush before he can
to fight benil darush before he can fight for the title I think that sets up
fight for the title I think that sets up a Conor fight I think that might be why
a Conor fight I think that might be why he did that's probably why honest
he did that's probably why honest because Conor was at Bellator last
because Conor was at Bellator last Friday and he did an interview and he
Friday and he did an interview and he said yeah I think I'm coming back and
said yeah I think I'm coming back and fighting for the belt and then kind of
fighting for the belt and then kind of crazy oh no it's it's wild but
crazy oh no it's it's wild but but if you want the company would you
but if you want the company would you want that to happen you probably would
want that to happen you probably would let's be honest because the reality is
let's be honest because the reality is Conor's best days are long gone they're
Conor's best days are long gone they're behind him you know you can't stay at
behind him you know you can't stay at the tops probably probably the last
the tops probably probably the last fight listen we got to look at it this
fight listen we got to look at it this way takes a long time off the cowboy
way takes a long time off the cowboy fight is very quick you don't get to see
fight is very quick you don't get to see what's really going on and then Dustin
what's really going on and then Dustin [ __ ] him up and Dustin [ __ ] him up
[ __ ] him up and Dustin [ __ ] him up with calf kicks his leg was destroyed
with calf kicks his leg was destroyed that's a one of the best examples of a
that's a one of the best examples of a calf kick winning the fight and then of
calf kick winning the fight and then of course beautiful combination starts off
course beautiful combination starts off with that right hand rocks him puts him
with that right hand rocks him puts him away knocks him out no questions asked
away knocks him out no questions asked then comes in the second fight with a
then comes in the second fight with a hairline fracture already in his shin
hairline fracture already in his shin yeah and then fights and is his leg
yeah and then fights and is his leg snaps he falls back it's very it's very
snaps he falls back it's very it's very unsatisfying it is unsatisfying and then
unsatisfying it is unsatisfying and then he has a year off yeah and then also who
he has a year off yeah and then also who knows what he's like now I mean his
knows what he's like now I mean his [ __ ] shin has a bolt in it forever
[ __ ] shin has a bolt in it forever he's got these plates on his shin trying
he's got these plates on his shin trying to glue the whole thing together and
to glue the whole thing together and it's a year later a year out of his Prim
it's a year later a year out of his Prim I mean who knows he hasn't sparred I'll
I mean who knows he hasn't sparred I'll tell you this though if there's a person
tell you this though if there's a person that you put him against in the top five
that you put him against in the top five to beat it would be Charles Oliva you
to beat it would be Charles Oliva you think so Charles is hitable and Conor
think so Charles is hitable and Conor can still [ __ ] hit he's fast you know
can still [ __ ] hit he's fast you know Charles is hitable he's hitable but he
Charles is hitable he's hitable but he can take it too man he's not going to
can take it too man he's not going to rest oh no he can't take it he can take
rest oh no he can't take it he can take it man the fact that he survived both
it man the fact that he survived both Dustin's onslaught where he really L
Dustin's onslaught where he really L like he was going to get put away and
like he was going to get put away and Justin um Michael Chandler Chandler had
Justin um Michael Chandler Chandler had him hurt bad yeah you know survives that
him hurt bad yeah you know survives that and then comes out and starches Chandler
and then comes out and starches Chandler in the second round yeah but he's not
in the second round yeah but he's not Superman he's not Superman but God damn
Superman he's not Superman but God damn I'm just like who else is that I mean
I'm just like who else is that I mean Gage gagei never uses his bloody
Gage gagei never uses his bloody wrestling anyway so who knows Islam
wrestling anyway so who knows Islam wouldn't be good who else is there
wouldn't be good who else is there Chandler would probably wrestle him so
Chandler would probably wrestle him so in terms of stylistic matchup Gage is
in terms of stylistic matchup Gage is very dangerous for a guy like Connor if
very dangerous for a guy like Connor if Connor if if gaii beats Oliva gaii
Connor if if gaii beats Oliva gaii versus Conor is a dangerous fight for
versus Conor is a dangerous fight for Connor Co who the [ __ ] kicks your legs
Connor Co who the [ __ ] kicks your legs better than gagei oh [ __ ] I never
better than gagei oh [ __ ] I never thought of that I thought you were
thought of that I thought you were talking about his boxing his boxing's
talking about his boxing his boxing's ferocious too yeah no no I forgot you're
ferocious too yeah no no I forgot you're right though the c cakes the leg cakes
right though the c cakes the leg cakes God his leg kick are some of the best in
God his leg kick are some of the best in the game and he also is a great wrestler
the game and he also is a great wrestler too of course and gatei will kick your
too of course and gatei will kick your leg from inside a tieup which is crazy
leg from inside a tieup which is crazy you ever seen him do that his hips are
you ever seen him do that his hips are so flexible he could throw those tight
so flexible he could throw those tight leg kicks from like grabbing inside he's
leg kicks from like grabbing inside he's got like a over under on you and he
got like a over under on you and he [ __ ] kicks your legs yeah yeah no
[ __ ] kicks your legs yeah yeah no it's crazy his highlight real like is
it's crazy his highlight real like is some of the best leg kicking I've ever
some of the best leg kicking I've ever seen in the lightweight division It's
seen in the lightweight division It's [ __ ] amazing and he did it to guys
[ __ ] amazing and he did it to guys like Edson Barbosa like lights his legs
like Edson Barbosa like lights his legs up I'm just saying though there's a
up I'm just saying though there's a potential that Conor comes back beats
potential that Conor comes back beats Charles Olivera and becomes Champion
Charles Olivera and becomes Champion again because that is and then that's I
again because that is and then that's I don't think I could deal with the world
don't think I could deal with the world if that happen oh my God oh my God
if that happen oh my God oh my God Ireland would have
Ireland would have last a month long but it might happen it
last a month long but it might happen it might listen if Conor connects on
might listen if Conor connects on anybody's mug that's what I'm saying you
anybody's mug that's what I'm saying you never know he still got that left hand
never know he still got that left hand he's still got power and speed in it
he's still got power and speed in it what FASA hobby calls the touch of death
what FASA hobby calls the touch of death is that what he calls it that's what
is that what he calls it that's what fasab is he's got the touch of death
fasab is he's got the touch of death kind of does kind of does I mean
kind of does kind of does I mean diminished a little bit because it
diminished a little bit because it happens well you you know again it's
happens well you you know again it's like it's one of the things that he said
like it's one of the things that he said about the first poier knock when cor
about the first poier knock when cor poier stopped him he goes it was too
poier stopped him he goes it was too much inactivity I wasn't you know I'm
much inactivity I wasn't you know I'm not ready for this yet then he comes
not ready for this yet then he comes back fights him a second time and the
back fights him a second time and the second time gets [ __ ] up and with the
second time gets [ __ ] up and with the broken leg so it's like I don't know you
broken leg so it's like I don't know you know where he's at now mentally but he's
know where he's at now mentally but he's got so much [ __ ] money he sold proper
got so much [ __ ] money he sold proper 12 he made like a half a billion yeah
12 he made like a half a billion yeah that's it though it changes I mean you
that's it though it changes I mean you can say whatever you want of course he's
can say whatever you want of course he's going to say that and we all say it you
going to say that and we all say it you know oh I'm still the same guy I'm still
know oh I'm still the same guy I'm still the same fighter no you [ __ ] ain't
the same fighter no you [ __ ] ain't right no you're not your motivation for
right no you're not your motivation for doing this is gone right you're doing it
doing this is gone right you're doing it now because listen and you got to
now because listen and you got to respect this about him we don't have a
respect this about him we don't have a good relationship but gotta respect this
good relationship but gotta respect this about him he loves the fight game you
about him he loves the fight game you know what I mean and and I respect that
know what I mean and and I respect that about him I really do so that's
about him I really do so that's something that's the only thing that he
something that's the only thing that he can't buy right I mean the guy can buy
can't buy right I mean the guy can buy whatever he wants he's buying yachts and
whatever he wants he's buying yachts and this and that and God bless him but you
this and that and God bless him but you can't buy the UFC championship of the
can't buy the UFC championship of the world that's the only thing he can't buy
world that's the only thing he can't buy so he's got no choice to go and fight
so he's got no choice to go and fight for it and he's still choosing to do
for it and he's still choosing to do that you have to respect that to be
that you have to respect that to be honest buying Yachts is a tricky way to
honest buying Yachts is a tricky way to live your life it's it's it's a good way
live your life it's it's it's a good way to go broke yeah I watch that I go oh
to go broke yeah I watch that I go oh you're doing that yacht money thing that
you're doing that yacht money thing that yacht money thing's crazy money that's
yacht money thing's crazy money that's crazy where's your yacht Joe I don't got
crazy where's your yacht Joe I don't got aach come on man God knows you can buy
aach come on man God knows you can buy one I don't have a yacht I have a boat I
one I don't have a yacht I have a boat I got a regular boat yeah what size it's
got a regular boat yeah what size it's like 22 feet it's
like 22 feet it's tiny yeah I [ __ ] take it out and we
tiny yeah I [ __ ] take it out and we jet ski and we go tubing with my kids oh
jet ski and we go tubing with my kids oh I see F I like fishing I'm not I have no
I see F I like fishing I'm not I have no desire to get a [ __ ] yacht I have a
desire to get a [ __ ] yacht I have a buddy who just bought you don't want to
buddy who just bought you don't want to go park up at Dubai get the [ __ ] out of
go park up at Dubai get the [ __ ] out of here bolts and hoes bro come
here bolts and hoes bro come on let's go I have no desire to have
on let's go I have no desire to have either one of those things in my life
either one of those things in my life how old are you now I'm 54 54 boat and
how old are you now I'm 54 54 boat and hoing it up in Dubai having M Jeff
hoing it up in Dubai having M Jeff bezos's boat is so big they have to take
bezos's boat is so big they have to take apart a bridge to get it through do you
apart a bridge to get it through do you know about that story I don't know I
know about that story I don't know I kind of want to see it Jamie if you
kind of want to see it Jamie if you could pull that up build this boat I
could pull that up build this boat I believe they're building in the
believe they're building in the Netherlands and it is so big he's got
Netherlands and it is so big he's got like the one of the biggest super Yachts
like the one of the biggest super Yachts if not the biggest of all time it's so
if not the biggest of all time it's so big they have to dismantle a bridge to
big they have to dismantle a bridge to get it out of where they're building it
get it out of where they're building it I mean he's the richest man in the world
I mean he's the richest man in the world well him and Elon musar so they go back
well him and Elon musar so they go back and forth yeah but that's just I mean I
and forth yeah but that's just I mean I listen I don't want to live that way but
listen I don't want to live that way but no if you're GNA be a baller billionaire
no if you're GNA be a baller billionaire Jeff Bezos is my idol that's how he does
Jeff Bezos is my idol that's how he does it he's got a smoke show of a girlfriend
it he's got a smoke show of a girlfriend the guy was a dork for like most of his
the guy was a dork for like most of his life seen days know Big Jack Basil's new
life seen days know Big Jack Basil's new yacht in Netherlands yeah Under Fire
yacht in Netherlands yeah Under Fire thousands RSVP to throw eggs at
thousands RSVP to throw eggs at it oh my God a super yacht so big it
it oh my God a super yacht so big it will require a bridge to be move to get
will require a bridge to be move to get out to see but why did I mean I like
out to see but why did I mean I like that bridge has to come down like come
that bridge has to come down like come on why that bridge has to come down
on why that bridge has to come down that's that's a high up that bridge
that's that's a high up that bridge that's a crazy Bridge like why not why
that's a crazy Bridge like why not why not build it somewhere else or I mean do
not build it somewhere else or I mean do they know that he was going to be able
they know that he was going to be able to get the bridge taken down to build
to get the bridge taken down to build the yacht look at the size of that
the yacht look at the size of that [ __ ] that looks like a cruise
[ __ ] that looks like a cruise ship what do you think that thing's
ship what do you think that thing's worth I want to say a half a billion
worth I want to say a half a billion dollars oh I'd say more than that I'm
dollars oh I'd say more than that I'm just guessing what's like what's the
just guessing what's like what's the most expensive yacht do you see all
most expensive yacht do you see all these Russian guys are moving their
these Russian guys are moving their Yachts to the Maldives because they
Yachts to the Maldives because they don't have like an extradition deal with
don't have like an extradition deal with the United States so all these Russian
the United States so all these Russian guys right now cuz the United States was
guys right now cuz the United States was saying they're going to start uh
saying they're going to start uh repossessing these these Yachts yeah
repossessing these these Yachts yeah confiscating these Yachts yeah so does
confiscating these Yachts yeah so does it say how much it cost
it say how much it cost Jamie I must there must be some sort of
Jamie I must there must be some sort of a what is the most expensive boat ever
a what is the most expensive boat ever built it's the largest sailing yacht
built it's the largest sailing yacht ever constructed it says it's also the
ever constructed it says it's also the largest yacht of any kind produced in
largest yacht of any kind produced in the Netherlands it's
the Netherlands it's 417 ft
417 ft [Laughter]
[Laughter] long I love it pull up that picture of
long I love it pull up that picture of him with his girlfriend with the [ __ ]
him with his girlfriend with the [ __ ] the glasses on he's my hero if you're
the glasses on he's my hero if you're going to be a billionaire this is how I
going to be a billionaire this is how I want I don't want you to be like Warren
want I don't want you to be like Warren Buffett where you're oh I just drink
Buffett where you're oh I just drink cocacola and I still eat the same food
cocacola and I still eat the same food get the [ __ ] out of here get jacked get
get the [ __ ] out of here get jacked get jacked and get a [ __ ] smoke show
jacked and get a [ __ ] smoke show girlfriend that's what I like I agree
girlfriend that's what I like I agree look at him with her chilling pull up
look at him with her chilling pull up the one where it's him with the glasses
the one where it's him with the glasses that's my favorite one from him at the
that's my favorite one from him at the New Year party going going up to space
New Year party going going up to space with uh William shner yes that's what
with uh William shner yes that's what I'm talking about there the one in the
I'm talking about there the one in the right I've seen that that's what a
right I've seen that that's what a billionaire is supposed to look like
billionaire is supposed to look like that's what
that's what billions and billions of dollars is
billions and billions of dollars is supposed to do for you [ __ ] look like
supposed to do for you [ __ ] look like douchebag every douche bag in Vegas I
douchebag every douche bag in Vegas I like it I like it I like it he can look
like it I like it I like it he can look like a douchebag he's got $200 billion
like a douchebag he's got $200 billion dollar let him look like a douchebag
dollar let him look like a douchebag yeah I like it I'm a fan I mean he's
yeah I like it I'm a fan I mean he's having a whale of a time I like what
having a whale of a time I like what you're doing hey God bless he's got a
you're doing hey God bless he's got a smoke show girlfriend but that was by by
smoke show girlfriend but that was by by the way that he's dressed like that cuz
the way that he's dressed like that cuz he was at a party it was a disco party
he was at a party it was a disco party it was a disco theme party everybody at
it was a disco theme party everybody at the party was dressed like they were
the party was dressed like they were like Saturday Night Fever he's enjoying
like Saturday Night Fever he's enjoying himself why not what's the point of
himself why not what's the point of having all that money if you're not
having all that money if you're not going to enjoy yourself saying that's
going to enjoy yourself saying that's what I'm saying I like if you're gonna
what I'm saying I like if you're gonna be a billionaire I want to live like
be a billionaire I want to live like Jeff Bezos [ __ ] yeah take testosterone
Jeff Bezos [ __ ] yeah take testosterone you've convinced me testostrone do a lot
you've convinced me testostrone do a lot of [ __ ] squats swing some cattle
of [ __ ] squats swing some cattle about $500 million price tag doesn't
about $500 million price tag doesn't even include the miniott it's got a
even include the miniott it's got a miniot well you got to have a miniot Joe
miniot well you got to have a miniot Joe if you're going to have one like that
if you're going to have one like that big it's a worth an estimated 500
big it's a worth an estimated 500 million but they're just guessing like
million but they're just guessing like what Google this what's the most
what Google this what's the most expensive yacht ever created I would
expensive yacht ever created I would think it's more than I think it's like
think it's more than I think it's like 800 million I I would there's got to be
800 million I I would there's got to be a billion dollar boat I mean what are we
a billion dollar boat I mean what are we doing as a human race here if we don't
doing as a human race here if we don't even have a billion dollar boat I mean
even have a billion dollar boat I mean that's pathetic I bet Putin's got a
that's pathetic I bet Putin's got a billion dollar boat if anybody's got a
billion dollar boat if anybody's got a billion dollar
billion dollar boat is it actually was it's the guy's
boat is it actually was it's the guy's actually selling the he's the owner of
actually selling the he's the owner of Chelsea Roman Abramovic yeah he has one
Chelsea Roman Abramovic yeah he has one that cost reportedly over a billion it's
that cost reportedly over a billion it's I'm trying to come on
I'm trying to come on picture it maybe just got to Bar maybe
picture it maybe just got to Bar maybe you have to build your own it's cheaper
you have to build your own it's cheaper than buying one that's already built is
than buying one that's already built is that possible bu lazy yeah you're lazy
that possible bu lazy yeah you're lazy like I don't want to wait wait for the
like I don't want to wait wait for the thing to be built what's for available
thing to be built what's for available now and they sell you one for
now and they sell you one for 800 that's a billion dollars oh my God
800 that's a billion dollars oh my God 1.62 billion yeah that's what I'm saying
1.62 billion yeah that's what I'm saying oh Jeff what is going on man how's this
oh Jeff what is going on man how's this guy beating you I'm embarrassed for him
guy beating you I'm embarrassed for him to be quite Frank this is ugly how's he
to be quite Frank this is ugly how's he going to show his face at the boat
going to show his face at the boat club you know how's he going to poor guy
club you know how's he going to poor guy he's only got half a billion dollar y
he's only got half a billion dollar y pull up to con and exactly you'll be
pull up to con and exactly you'll be Tred by this guy here's Jeff with his
Tred by this guy here's Jeff with his shitty boat again his a little Tugboat
shitty boat again his a little Tugboat get the [ __ ] out of here with your
get the [ __ ] out of here with your little Tugboat look at that thing that
little Tugboat look at that thing that is a goddamn cruise ship you would think
is a goddamn cruise ship you would think that that would house like a 100 people
that that would house like a 100 people $1.6 billion so all these oh look at
$1.6 billion so all these oh look at that it's got a little boat inside of it
that it's got a little boat inside of it comes out some of these guys one of the
comes out some of these guys one of the the guys maybe it's this guy has one
the guys maybe it's this guy has one that has like anti-missile
that has like anti-missile capabilities probably yeah I think it is
capabilities probably yeah I think it is him and then it also has a submarine
him and then it also has a submarine where he can escape so if like uh Somali
where he can escape so if like uh Somali pirates are trying to like hijack him he
pirates are trying to like hijack him he could just get in a submarine amazing
could just get in a submarine amazing isn't it it's kind of it's very cool
isn't it it's kind of it's very cool yeah it's baller money that make that
yeah it's baller money that make that makes me look like a popper uhhuh well
makes me look like a popper uhhuh well look at that definitely makes me look
look at that definitely makes me look broke so what's going on here that's it
broke so what's going on here that's it is that his boat who Jeff's or look at
is that his boat who Jeff's or look at that what the [ __ ] is this Eclipse
that what the [ __ ] is this Eclipse that's it that's the boat this looks
that's it that's the boat this looks like it's also a CGI oh it is okay but
like it's also a CGI oh it is okay but okay here it is so is this Bezos no this
okay here it is so is this Bezos no this is the Russian
is the Russian gentleman so this is the guy that's
gentleman so this is the guy that's moving his [ __ ] to the Maldives they're
moving his [ __ ] to the Maldives they're all trying to not get confiscated right
all trying to not get confiscated right now so United States and NATO moves in
now so United States and NATO moves in on all their assets well he's selling
on all their assets well he's selling Chelsea Football Club actually you I
Chelsea Football Club actually you I just saw that is you think that's
just saw that is you think that's because of the same reason it's got to
because of the same reason it's got to be wow what a crazy time to be alive
be wow what a crazy time to be alive look at the size of thaty oh my goodness
look at the size of thaty oh my goodness look at that what a you could [ __ ]
look at that what a you could [ __ ] shoot arrows in
shoot arrows in that you can have a archery course
that you can have a archery course underneath your your boat wow amazing
underneath your your boat wow amazing helicopter pad I think it's got two
helicopter pad I think it's got two helicopter pads too so like you and the
helicopter pads too so like you and the wife could yeah no you know different
wife could yeah no you know different area look at this looks like a giant
area look at this looks like a giant house inside of it got a swimming pool
house inside of it got a swimming pool in there restaurant restaurant holy [ __ ]
in there restaurant restaurant holy [ __ ] got a disco but according to uh
got a disco but according to uh someone's name rhymes with Dana White he
someone's name rhymes with Dana White he told me that uh those aren't even the
told me that uh those aren't even the richest people in the world the real
richest people in the world the real richest people in the world like the
richest people in the world like the Saudi Oro oil probably cuz they don't
Saudi Oro oil probably cuz they don't have to make it public no that's right
have to make it public no that's right exactly those Royal Family Guys he goes
exactly those Royal Family Guys he goes they they have trillions yeah wow
they they have trillions yeah wow trillions trillions
trillions trillions trillions yeah it's a wild life they
trillions yeah it's a wild life they living I watched a documentary on the
living I watched a documentary on the sutan of brunai and the sult of brunai
sutan of brunai and the sult of brunai has his own disco and uh until he got in
has his own disco and uh until he got in trouble so one of the things things one
trouble so one of the things things one of the girls like ratted out his his
of the girls like ratted out his his thing what do you mean he has his own
thing what do you mean he has his own disco listen to me okay what he has in
disco listen to me okay what he has in his house is a well he's a palace right
his house is a well he's a palace right giant disco Tech but it's only him so he
giant disco Tech but it's only him so he brings in these gals from all over the
brings in these gals from all over the world and pays him exorbitant amounts of
world and pays him exorbitant amounts of money and then he comes
money and then he comes out and it's just him let's go it's just
out and it's just him let's go it's just him and he's like you and you let's
him and he's like you and you let's dance that sounds like a very expensive
dance that sounds like a very expensive way of getting hookers that sounds like
way of getting hookers that sounds like what Jeff basos is trying to do sounds
what Jeff basos is trying to do sounds like what a guy with trillions of
like what a guy with trillions of dollars does as well because next level
dollars does as well because next level you know yeah Jeff Basil's got a smoke
you know yeah Jeff Basil's got a smoke show girlfriend and his giant yacht but
show girlfriend and his giant yacht but hey I got my [ __ ] disco that ain't
hey I got my [ __ ] disco that ain't nothing and I fly in these gals from all
nothing and I fly in these gals from all over the world pay them yeah and he
over the world pay them yeah and he would have this this thing and this lady
would have this this thing and this lady one of them who's like I think she was
one of them who's like I think she was like a penous pet she was writing a book
like a penous pet she was writing a book about it and she got caught They
about it and she got caught They confiscated her laptop and sent her back
confiscated her laptop and sent her back home and then she started doing
home and then she started doing interviews and telling giving up and all
interviews and telling giving up and all these girls were mad like oh you
these girls were mad like oh you [ __ ] because they were for paid
[ __ ] because they were for paid to do this paragraph is pretty fun here
to do this paragraph is pretty fun here you go indeed the sultan and his equally
you go indeed the sultan and his equally decadent brother uh Prince Jeffrey were
decadent brother uh Prince Jeffrey were dubbed constant companions in Hedonism
dubbed constant companions in Hedonism in 2011 by Vanity Fair he lives in a
in 2011 by Vanity Fair he lives in a palace with
palace with 1,788 rooms 257 bathrooms five swimming
1,788 rooms 257 bathrooms five swimming pools a mosque a banquet hall that holds
pools a mosque a banquet hall that holds five ,000 people See's a 5,000 [ __ ]
five ,000 people See's a 5,000 [ __ ] people banquet hall and a 110 car garage
people banquet hall and a 110 car garage when he turned 50 the sultan built a
when he turned 50 the sultan built a stadium invited Michael Jackson to
stadium invited Michael Jackson to perform in it and paid him $17 million
perform in it and paid him $17 million for three concerts wow amazing he does
for three concerts wow amazing he does not give a [ __ ] doesn't give a [ __ ] what
not give a [ __ ] doesn't give a [ __ ] what uh who was it vanity far are saying
uh who was it vanity far are saying about him do you think he's bothered
about him do you think he's bothered he's like talk all that [ __ ] [ __ ] oh
he's like talk all that [ __ ] [ __ ] oh van F brought a piece of me they can
van F brought a piece of me they can come over here and suck it too oh my God
come over here and suck it too oh my God I'm out here partying at my giant
I'm out here partying at my giant banquet hall for 5,000 people yeah
banquet hall for 5,000 people yeah balling yeah he had a collection you
balling yeah he had a collection you think he guys lonely uh he's probably
think he guys lonely uh he's probably too busy look at him is that him there
too busy look at him is that him there in the middle yeah just balling out of
in the middle yeah just balling out of control um I don't think he gets busy
control um I don't think he gets busy lonely he's probably so busy a lot of
lonely he's probably so busy a lot of people have that why why why would he be
people have that why why why would he be busy cuz he's banging
hoes I don't think he's working every day maybe some of those girls are nice
day maybe some of those girls are nice to him maybe he's got a lovely
to him maybe he's got a lovely relationship with one of them I don't
relationship with one of them I don't know you never know maybe he's lonely
know you never know maybe he's lonely maybe he's having a great time maybe he
maybe he's having a great time maybe he like hangs out with his friends you know
like hangs out with his friends you know I don't know I'm hoping he does I'm
I don't know I'm hoping he does I'm hoping he does I'm hoping someone wins I
hoping he does I'm hoping someone wins I like I like when people win I like when
like I like when people win I like when they win at life how much do you think
they win at life how much do you think he spent a day for 10 years according to
he spent a day for 10 years according to this article uh a million bucks not
this article uh a million bucks not including 10 million bucks not including
including 10 million bucks not including that's a lot too much but it's closer
that's a lot too much but it's closer $747,000 a day for 10 years on top of
$747,000 a day for 10 years on top of $17 billion in gifts to to friends and
$17 billion in gifts to to friends and family so what is that
$747,000 a day time 365 that's about 27
27 7.4 74
7.4 74 million4 27 2655 million per year times
million4 27 2655 million per year times 10 just spending out a zero just
10 just spending out a zero just spending money just spending 2 billion
spending money just spending 2 billion 2.7 billion just spending oh my God
2.7 billion just spending oh my God that's so much money it's like uh brw's
that's so much money it's like uh brw's million remember that you had to blow 30
million remember that you had to blow 30 million in 30 days oh that's right
million in 30 days oh that's right that's right what a crazy
that's right what a crazy number hundreds and hundreds of millions
number hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars a year just spending just
of dollars a year just spending just balling it's just insane just champagne
balling it's just insane just champagne and gold underwear woo do you don't
and gold underwear woo do you don't think that gets annoying though after a
think that gets annoying though after a while I'd like to find out well so me
while I'd like to find out well so me give me half a chance I kill myself I'd
give me half a chance I kill myself I'd be dead I would not make it 10 years my
be dead I would not make it 10 years my God I don't know I mean it all depends
God I don't know I mean it all depends look I'm you know I'm happy I love my
look I'm you know I'm happy I love my wife I'm happily married but if I wasn't
wife I'm happily married but if I wasn't like if I had a terrible wife and I had
like if I had a terrible wife and I had a terrible relationship and all a sudden
a terrible relationship and all a sudden I had billions of dollars I might go
I had billions of dollars I might go Whole Hog I think you'd have a good time
Whole Hog I think you'd have a good time yeah I think you'd have a good time I
yeah I think you'd have a good time I money come buy your happiness well
money come buy your happiness well what's he called the Sultan of buai is
what's he called the Sultan of buai is living it Jeff BOS doing all right I
living it Jeff BOS doing all right I don't think money can buy you happiness
don't think money can buy you happiness but if you are already happy yeah I
but if you are already happy yeah I think money will make you extra money
think money will make you extra money will they it make you happier
will they it make you happier options do you have a nice car mike what
options do you have a nice car mike what you drive I don't know I had a range
you drive I don't know I had a range over until quite recently now I just got
over until quite recently now I just got an Audi A6 oh those are great cars it's
an Audi A6 oh those are great cars it's a nice car yeah I was going to get uh
a nice car yeah I was going to get uh what was going to get the RS7 the new
what was going to get the RS7 the new one at Christmas oh those are nice yeah
one at Christmas oh those are nice yeah I like those I like AI I love Audi's I
I like those I like AI I love Audi's I love that R8 that thing [ __ ] it's a
love that R8 that thing [ __ ] it's a [ __ ] amazing car but like when you
[ __ ] amazing car but like when you get in a nice car like people say it
get in a nice car like people say it doesn't make you happy like I was
doesn't make you happy like I was talking to my friend Tony hinchliff he
talking to my friend Tony hinchliff he just got a new 2021 Corvette right those
just got a new 2021 Corvette right those new ones the
new ones the I don't know Corvettes too well but I
I don't know Corvettes too well but I know what you're saying about a nice car
know what you're saying about a nice car it makes you feel good it does it does
it makes you feel good it does it does get in it 100% grab the steering wheel
get in it 100% grab the steering wheel you feel it and especially if you spend
you feel it and especially if you spend a lot of time in your car yes yeah I
a lot of time in your car yes yeah I mean if you're a person who likes those
mean if you're a person who likes those things but for some people it's not Cars
things but for some people it's not Cars some people it's art they like to buy
some people it's art they like to buy art and they love they love living in a
art and they love they love living in a nice house they love it's not like money
nice house they love it's not like money money doesn't buy you happiness but
money doesn't buy you happiness but takes away the stress though takes away
takes away the stress though takes away a lot of stress oh yeah oh yeah lot of
a lot of stress oh yeah oh yeah lot of stress it's a big big difference between
stress it's a big big difference between once that stress goes then all of a
once that stress goes then all of a sudden your Life's a lot better I
sudden your Life's a lot better I remember you're not buying happiness but
remember you're not buying happiness but you're eradicating the stress and living
you're eradicating the stress and living the life that you want to live as
the life that you want to live as opposed to being a slave to making ends
opposed to being a slave to making ends meat the making ends meat thing when I
meat the making ends meat thing when I was 25 I think I got a development deal
was 25 I think I got a development deal the First Development deal I ever got
the First Development deal I ever got which was like I think they gave me
which was like I think they gave me $100,000 and at the time that was the
$100,000 and at the time that was the most amount of money I would even heard
most amount of money I would even heard of anybody getting yeah and I had all
of anybody getting yeah and I had all this money in the bank and I remember
this money in the bank and I remember the moment it happened it was like a
the moment it happened it was like a weight lifted off of me oh yeah it was
weight lifted off of me oh yeah it was like it was gone like whatever weight
like it was gone like whatever weight was on my shoulders was gone because I
was on my shoulders was gone because I didn't have to wonder how am I going to
didn't have to wonder how am I going to pay my bills this month how am I going
pay my bills this month how am I going to eat every day how I'm on my own out
to eat every day how I'm on my own out there hustling as a comedian and I
there hustling as a comedian and I remember that feeling was like a
remember that feeling was like a physical feeling of weight leaving my
physical feeling of weight leaving my body and I remember thinking oh I'm
body and I remember thinking oh I'm never going to forget this this is very
never going to forget this this is very important this very important you got to
important this very important you got to have to have to have a a c amount of
have to have to have a a c amount of cushion because when you have a certain
cushion because when you have a certain amount of cushion you don't have to
amount of cushion you don't have to worry about your bills it's a way better
worry about your bills it's a way better life it's a way better that daytoday
life it's a way better that daytoday grind like it's romantic that people are
grind like it's romantic that people are struggling it's romantic you're hustling
struggling it's romantic you're hustling there's something to it it does give you
there's something to it it does give you a little motivation because you got to
a little motivation because you got to hustle you got to keep going but not
hustle you got to keep going but not good for you no it's not but it never
good for you no it's not but it never goes away I mean my hustle I mean I'm
goes away I mean my hustle I mean I'm always [ __ ] work I'm always stop you
always [ __ ] work I'm always stop you know what I mean I don't really need to
know what I mean I don't really need to but I like it I like I like to stay busy
but I like it I like I like to stay busy but it's a different hustle right it is
but it's a different hustle right it is it is it is not out of Necessities as
it is it is not out of Necessities as much yeah it's fear based Hustle but the
much yeah it's fear based Hustle but the the feeling you mentioned there I
the feeling you mentioned there I remember like when I first got to the
remember like when I first got to the UFC cuz you know money was tight for us
UFC cuz you know money was tight for us growing up and then I remember UFC 66
growing up and then I remember UFC 66 Chuck versus Tito 2 MGM Grand I beat
Chuck versus Tito 2 MGM Grand I beat Eric schaer backstage I get Donna says
Eric schaer backstage I get Donna says Danel Lorenzo want to see you I'm like
Danel Lorenzo want to see you I'm like Danel Lorenzo want to see me what the
Danel Lorenzo want to see me what the [ __ ] have I done now you know what I
[ __ ] have I done now you know what I mean I'm like I've done something I've
mean I'm like I've done something I've told the wrong person to go [ __ ]
told the wrong person to go [ __ ] themselves or something and then
themselves or something and then backstage he just gave me a check you
backstage he just gave me a check you know I said open it cuz you know you
know I said open it cuz you know you don't want to open it you think it's a
don't want to open it you think it's a check we says open it and I open it up
check we says open it and I open it up it was
it was $80,000 and I'd never seen that kind of
$80,000 and I'd never seen that kind of money in my life you know and it was
money in my life you know and it was just unbelievable and I remember my wife
just unbelievable and I remember my wife Rebecca was outside she was by herself
Rebecca was outside she was by herself in the nose bleed right up at the top of
in the nose bleed right up at the top of the stand she was the only person there
the stand she was the only person there and I ran out and I had my purse and I
and I ran out and I had my purse and I had some sponsorship money and had a
had some sponsorship money and had a check for 80 grand of Dana and I'm like
check for 80 grand of Dana and I'm like what the [ __ ] so I sprinted up those
what the [ __ ] so I sprinted up those steps people go hey you just F you know
steps people go hey you just F you know what I mean cuz I wasn't very well known
what I mean cuz I wasn't very well known back then I said babe look at this look
back then I said babe look at this look at this you know and it was a beautiful
at this you know and it was a beautiful moment I I was crying because it's like
moment I I was crying because it's like it wasn't just about the money the money
it wasn't just about the money the money was fantastic but it was that fact that
was fantastic but it was that fact that this crazy plan of quitting work and
this crazy plan of quitting work and becoming a professional fighter was
becoming a professional fighter was paying off you know what I mean because
paying off you know what I mean because everyone said there's no money to make
everyone said there's no money to make in MMA no one makes any money I remember
in MMA no one makes any money I remember when I quit work on this forum cage
when I quit work on this forum cage Warriors Forum said if anyone's getting
Warriors Forum said if anyone's getting into MMA for money they've made the
into MMA for money they've made the wrong choice and I was like [ __ ] that's
wrong choice and I was like [ __ ] that's the only reason I'm getting into this
the only reason I'm getting into this and yeah you know what I mean there such
and yeah you know what I mean there such a great feeling as you say it's it's
a great feeling as you say it's it's such a risky Endeavor to to go from
such a risky Endeavor to to go from being a guy who's training to take in a
being a guy who's training to take in a couple amateur fights to you know I know
couple amateur fights to you know I know you had some kickboxing fights and then
you had some kickboxing fights and then to say I am going all in on this
to say I am going all in on this profession you're counting on your
profession you're counting on your tissue your joints your back your knee
tissue your joints your back your knee everything to hold up counting on your
everything to hold up counting on your skill H it wasn't it wasn't because for
skill H it wasn't it wasn't because for me I was I was just doing dead end jobs
me I was I was just doing dead end jobs one after the other right was never
one after the other right was never happy in any of them never held them
happy in any of them never held them down because the money was [ __ ] and
down because the money was [ __ ] and there's plenty of other dead end jobs do
there's plenty of other dead end jobs do you know what I mean Monday mornings
you know what I mean Monday mornings were generally a no show for
were generally a no show for me but um so when I quit work for the
me but um so when I quit work for the first time in my life I felt when I was
first time in my life I felt when I was training to be a fighter I was living
training to be a fighter I was living the life I was meant to be living you
the life I was meant to be living you know what I mean I was never happy felt
know what I mean I was never happy felt right I felt right I felt this is me
right I felt right I felt this is me this is who I should what I should be
this is who I should what I should be doing I felt finally because it those
doing I felt finally because it those sacrifices that I made like I used to
sacrifices that I made like I used to sleep in my car and stuff didn't feel
sleep in my car and stuff didn't feel like sacrifices it was exciting I was
like sacrifices it was exciting I was was on a mission I was on a journey I
was on a mission I was on a journey I was on a path to something my wife was
was on a path to something my wife was sacrificing she was at home bills piling
sacrificing she was at home bills piling up she was skinn but I'm [ __ ] off
up she was skinn but I'm [ __ ] off doing Jiu-Jitsu [ __ ] doing this going
doing Jiu-Jitsu [ __ ] doing this going down to Jo BR steamer sleeping in my car
down to Jo BR steamer sleeping in my car whatever it's like living this crazy
whatever it's like living this crazy adventure if you will do you know what I
adventure if you will do you know what I mean so it didn't feel like a sacrifice
mean so it didn't feel like a sacrifice well that's why it's a perfect job for
well that's why it's a perfect job for you yeah you know for a lot of guys that
you yeah you know for a lot of guys that would be two nuts too much too much
would be two nuts too much too much pressure too much and also there's the
pressure too much and also there's the expectation of the unknown like you
expectation of the unknown like you don't know well that's what what's
don't know well that's what what's coming next the the the unknown it just
coming next the the the unknown it just looms over you like you have no idea
looms over you like you have no idea whether it's going to work out it's the
whether it's going to work out it's the pressure that eats up everybody you know
pressure that eats up everybody you know like so many people like we said before
like so many people like we said before um people always ask about Callum my son
um people always ask about Callum my son fighting he's probably not going to
fighting he's probably not going to fight do you know what I mean grew up in
fight do you know what I mean grew up in a nice house got a [ __ ] swimming pool
a nice house got a [ __ ] swimming pool do you know what I mean he's living in a
do you know what I mean he's living in a apartment in San Francisco do you know
apartment in San Francisco do you know what I mean doesn't know what hardship
what I mean doesn't know what hardship is no offense to him do you know what I
is no offense to him do you know what I mean um you got to be a nasty bastard as
mean um you got to be a nasty bastard as well yeah you you got to be able to beat
well yeah you you got to be able to beat someone up be there covered in blood
someone up be there covered in blood grab them by the [ __ ] ears and RAM
grab them by the [ __ ] ears and RAM your [ __ ] knee right into the face
your [ __ ] knee right into the face and knock them unconscious if you can if
and knock them unconscious if you can if you can if you can you know and have no
you can if you can you know and have no problem doing that I don't think he I
problem doing that I don't think he I don't think he he's got that mean streak
don't think he he's got that mean streak in him but the point I was saying is
in him but the point I was saying is what was the point what was the [ __ ]
what was the point what was the [ __ ] point well the unknown like oh yeah um
point well the unknown like oh yeah um so many fires you go in gyms all over
so many fires you go in gyms all over the world and you train with someone you
the world and you train with someone you like wow this guy's really good he could
like wow this guy's really good he could be a world champion and then you find
be a world champion and then you find out he's crashing on a couch at his
out he's crashing on a couch at his friend's house or sleeping in a car and
friend's house or sleeping in a car and they just can't put it together on fight
they just can't put it together on fight day can't deal with the nerves the
day can't deal with the nerves the anxiety whatever you want to call it and
anxiety whatever you want to call it and there's so many people like that and and
there's so many people like that and and I think in most walks of life I think
I think in most walks of life I think it's probably the same in other sports
it's probably the same in other sports there's people that on game day they
there's people that on game day they just can't perform and then there's
just can't perform and then there's other people that know how to keep it
other people that know how to keep it together when the [ __ ] hits the fan and
together when the [ __ ] hits the fan and that's it's one of the most important
that's it's one of the most important qualities in life your ability to hold
qualities in life your ability to hold up under pressure yeah no absolutely ABS
up under pressure yeah no absolutely ABS a perfect example is Quinton Rampage
a perfect example is Quinton Rampage Jackson in the gym he would always look
Jackson in the gym he would always look like [ __ ] he had no problem getting
like [ __ ] he had no problem getting Tapped Out Left Right and center but
Tapped Out Left Right and center but [ __ ] game day good luck with that one
[ __ ] game day good luck with that one good luck with that buddy you know what
good luck with that buddy you know what I mean oh my God for a long the fact
I mean oh my God for a long the fact that he's still out there doing it too I
that he's still out there doing it too I mean he's still fighting which is kind
mean he's still fighting which is kind of crazy he's apparently he's going to
of crazy he's apparently he's going to have a boxing match with Shannon Briggs
have a boxing match with Shannon Briggs Shannon Briggs shanon the is that 100%
Shannon Briggs shanon the is that 100% real I talking to each other or talking
real I talking to each other or talking [ __ ] to each other they're always
[ __ ] to each other they're always talking [ __ ] and they do this thing
talking [ __ ] and they do this thing Channon talks a lot of [ __ ] he's [ __ ]
Channon talks a lot of [ __ ] he's [ __ ] great let's go champ let's go champ he's
great let's go champ let's go champ he's awesome did you see what he did to
awesome did you see what he did to Klitschko back in the day on the on the
Klitschko back in the day on the on the paddle board oh my God epic well was
paddle board oh my God epic well was that real I think it was real I mean I
that real I think it was real I mean I don't I don't see Vladimir Klitschko
don't I don't see Vladimir Klitschko doing a prank yeah that's not his style
doing a prank yeah that's not his style he's not that he takes himself far too
he's not that he takes himself far too seriously far too seriously yeah yeah
seriously far too seriously yeah yeah yeah you're right what an [ __ ]
yeah you're right what an [ __ ] great he was a tough [ __ ] too
great he was a tough [ __ ] too and still is I mean Shannon can box man
and still is I mean Shannon can box man he was a nasty left hand super educated
he was a nasty left hand super educated box huge guy and you know was real down
box huge guy and you know was real down the dumps until he started saying let's
the dumps until he started saying let's go champ like he literally like
go champ like he literally like reignited his passion for life by just
reignited his passion for life by just saying to himself let's go champ let's
saying to himself let's go champ let's go champ fly himself to these big boxing
go champ fly himself to these big boxing fights and just Gate Crash the press
fights and just Gate Crash the press conferences talking [ __ ] jacked yeah
start talking [ __ ] to everybody yeah there was him and Rampage at the triller
there was him and Rampage at the triller event recently I'm not sure what the
event recently I'm not sure what the involvement is but they was side by side
involvement is but they was side by side or squaring up and he's way bigger than
or squaring up and he's way bigger than Rampage he's he's huge big guy he's a
Rampage he's he's huge big guy he's a very tall guy but I think what they were
very tall guy but I think what they were going to do is something crazy like one
going to do is something crazy like one round boxing one round MMA is that what
round boxing one round MMA is that what it was something something like that
it was something something like that yeah yeah I heard something like that
yeah yeah I heard something like that you know that Mighty Mouse is doing that
you know that Mighty Mouse is doing that at the end of March what's he called R
at the end of March what's he called R Tang yeah that's a wild fight because
Tang yeah that's a wild fight because the first round is Muay Thai and Rod
the first round is Muay Thai and Rod Tang is like a elite Muay Tha the first
Tang is like a elite Muay Tha the first round Muay Thai I thought it first round
round Muay Thai I thought it first round was MMA next round was Muay Thai okay
was MMA next round was Muay Thai okay yeah I think it's first round Muay Thai
yeah I think it's first round Muay Thai because Rod Tang said he's gonna finish
because Rod Tang said he's gonna finish him in the first round and he's never
him in the first round and he's never going to make it to the MMA portion of
going to make it to the MMA portion of the fight okay that makes sense but I
the fight okay that makes sense but I don't know like how many like when
don't know like how many like when they're saying rounds are they doing
they're saying rounds are they doing Muay Thai rounds like three minutes or
Muay Thai rounds like three minutes or is it an MMA round like five minutes
is it an MMA round like five minutes because that's that's a different animal
because that's that's a different animal right in both counts I don't know I know
right in both counts I don't know I know I mean I I either way three or five is
I mean I I either way three or five is going to be hard to get through with rad
going to be hard to get through with rad Tang but I thought it was MMA first and
Tang but I thought it was MMA first and I thought oh that's really smart of
I thought oh that's really smart of Mighty M cuz of course he's just going
Mighty M cuz of course he's just going to take him down yeah a Muay Tha fighter
to take him down yeah a Muay Tha fighter knows nothing of Tak down defense or
knows nothing of Tak down defense or Jiu-Jitsu and Mighty Mouse would just
Jiu-Jitsu and Mighty Mouse would just tap him out two minutes tops yeah you
tap him out two minutes tops yeah you know I yeah I mean I don't think I I
know I yeah I mean I don't think I I don't know honestly what kind of uh
don't know honestly what kind of uh let's see here two fighters will compete
let's see here two fighters will compete in a four round Battle of alternating
in a four round Battle of alternating rules rounds one and three will be
rules rounds one and three will be contested under the the one super series
contested under the the one super series Muay Thai rule set so rounds two and
Muay Thai rule set so rounds two and four will be contested on the global
four will be contested on the global mixed martial arts rule set so what are
mixed martial arts rule set so what are what are the minutes of the rounds it
what are the minutes of the rounds it says four rounds but how many minutes
says four rounds but how many minutes it's got to be five minutes I would have
it's got to be five minutes I would have thought I would think that for sure with
thought I would think that for sure with the um the the the MMA
the um the the the MMA rounds what's his record Rod tank how
rounds what's his record Rod tank how many fights I'm probably probably they
many fights I'm probably probably they don't know in Thailand that's how it
don't know in Thailand that's how it it's crazy by the time they get to be 20
it's crazy by the time they get to be 20 150 fights it's like it's not look at
150 fights it's like it's not look at that [ __ ] record Jesus Christ how
that [ __ ] record Jesus Christ how many is that there's a few Reds on that
many is that there's a few Reds on that but not many it
but not many it same
same 267 wins 42 losses 10 draws that is
267 wins 42 losses 10 draws that is crazy that's a lot of experience that is
crazy that's a lot of experience that is [ __ ] crazy and he fought last year
[ __ ] crazy and he fought last year yeah and so the last time you lost was
yeah and so the last time you lost was 2020 and that was to someone in
2020 and that was to someone in Thailand in Bangkok Roger them have you
Thailand in Bangkok Roger them have you uh ever watched uh Muay Thai live in
uh ever watched uh Muay Thai live in Thailand yeah yeah I I I lived in
Thailand yeah yeah I I I lived in Thailand for about three months when I
Thailand for about three months when I first started doing MMA yeah one of my
first started doing MMA yeah one of my fights I got uh I was I was winning the
fights I got uh I was I was winning the fight and then in the last round I got
fight and then in the last round I got my leg kicked to [ __ ] in cage rage uh I
my leg kicked to [ __ ] in cage rage uh I still knocked the guy out fortunately
still knocked the guy out fortunately but I was limping around it wasn't
but I was limping around it wasn't looking good for a minute so then my
looking good for a minute so then my coach was like right you need to go to
coach was like right you need to go to Thailand and uh get this [ __ ] under
Thailand and uh get this [ __ ] under control so which gym did you train at it
control so which gym did you train at it was called sass Papa which is in a uh
was called sass Papa which is in a uh little suburb of Bangkok called Ram Camp
little suburb of Bangkok called Ram Camp nobody speaks English in Ram campag let
nobody speaks English in Ram campag let me tell you that and I was I was like
me tell you that and I was I was like stood out like a sore thumb what was
stood out like a sore thumb what was that like crazy it was wild three months
that like crazy it was wild three months three months yeah well I went for two
three months yeah well I went for two months first time and then the month the
months first time and then the month the second time and went on for a little bit
second time and went on for a little bit um yeah it it was it was a great
um yeah it it was it was a great experience came back as a way better
experience came back as a way better fighter I I think any fighter that's
fighter I I think any fighter that's realistically wants to do this for a
realistically wants to do this for a living needs to go out there and live in
living needs to go out there and live in Thailand what is the difference about
Thailand what is the difference about training in Thailand
training in Thailand um I mean obviously you know great
um I mean obviously you know great instruction great training sessions and
instruction great training sessions and all the rest of it but you just living
all the rest of it but you just living that life and then when you see what
that life and then when you see what they go through you know and and The
they go through you know and and The Limited opportunities that they have in
Limited opportunities that they have in their life and they're literally
their life and they're literally fighting to be able to feed themselves
fighting to be able to feed themselves you know it's uh you know you you
you know it's uh you know you you understand the Blessed position that
understand the Blessed position that you're in but as a fighter yeah you come
you're in but as a fighter yeah you come back just different it's hard to explain
back just different it's hard to explain but
but yeah I mean my Muay was way better but I
yeah I mean my Muay was way better but I just had a deeper understanding of the
just had a deeper understanding of the sport of the people of the culture of it
sport of the people of the culture of it you know uh living in a shitty hotel
you know uh living in a shitty hotel room with the Cockroaches it was uh
room with the Cockroaches it was uh humbling yeah yeah it was it was fun
humbling yeah yeah it was it was fun though very much enjoyed it yeah a lot
though very much enjoyed it yeah a lot of guys are going to various gyms in
of guys are going to various gyms in Thailand to do their camps now P A lot
Thailand to do their camps now P A lot of people going there yeah I was there
of people going there yeah I was there in 2016 puket top team it's great you
in 2016 puket top team it's great you know you would think it's just Muay Tha
know you would think it's just Muay Tha great Jiu-Jitsu great wrestling programs
great Jiu-Jitsu great wrestling programs then they got tiger
then they got tiger M
M got
got AKA yeah yeah is he he just came down
AKA yeah yeah is he he just came down with cancer is that correct he beat
with cancer is that correct he beat cancer oh he's beat yeah he beat cancer
cancer oh he's beat yeah he beat cancer he went through the chemo and I think he
he went through the chemo and I think he but he he feels great and he's starting
but he he feels great and he's starting to put weight back on oh really good
to put weight back on oh really good some just mentioned a few days ago they
some just mentioned a few days ago they said oh did you hear Mike Saks got
said oh did you hear Mike Saks got cancer what kind of cancer did he have
cancer what kind of cancer did he have do you know that's all I know literally
do you know that's all I know literally just someone said to man so he's running
just someone said to man so he's running AKA Thailand yeah he's a great guy I
AKA Thailand yeah he's a great guy I [ __ ] love Mike
[ __ ] love Mike Mike is just I don't know him too well
Mike is just I don't know him too well greaty I hear nothing but good things
greaty I hear nothing but good things yeah great great guy and um then um in
yeah great great guy and um then um in AKA Thailand I know that uh not ra
AKA Thailand I know that uh not ra excuse me in um U Tiger Tiger Muay Thai
excuse me in um U Tiger Tiger Muay Thai I know that um
I know that um uh hamzat was there too yeah that's
uh hamzat was there too yeah that's right yeah he was there and he was upset
right yeah he was there and he was upset because everybody was filming him really
because everybody was filming him really yeah there was uh he was talking about
yeah there was uh he was talking about how at Allstar in Sweden they don't let
how at Allstar in Sweden they don't let people film if it's film it's all
people film if it's film it's all controlled but they don't let people see
controlled but they don't let people see like his training his sparring and
like his training his sparring and everything like that but there was every
everything like that but there was every time he said he would Spar there would
time he said he would Spar there would be guys pull their phones out and he's
be guys pull their phones out and he's like they're not professionals he said
like they're not professionals he said the problem with uh tiger Muay Thai was
the problem with uh tiger Muay Thai was that there was a lot of the people that
that there was a lot of the people that were there were there for the experience
were there were there for the experience that were just like amateurs no for sure
that were just like amateurs no for sure and and that's what you get like where I
and and that's what you get like where I went was a proper Fighters gym a lot of
went was a proper Fighters gym a lot of people go on training holidays you know
people go on training holidays you know what I mean they going these excursions
what I mean they going these excursions with work or whatever business managers
with work or whatever business managers did that I'm do Tha trip to Thailand you
did that I'm do Tha trip to Thailand you know [ __ ] off I'm trying to train for a
know [ __ ] off I'm trying to train for a fight you [ __ ] you know what I mean
fight you [ __ ] you know what I mean and these guys all have their phones out
and these guys all have their phones out like I'm training with Michael Bisping
like I'm training with Michael Bisping and I understand hamza's problem there
and I understand hamza's problem there because he's so annoying because you're
because he's so annoying because you're going into a gym trying to work because
going into a gym trying to work because you've got an important fight coming up
you've got an important fight coming up and you got these people [ __ ] about
and you got these people [ __ ] about they shouldn't they should be smart
they shouldn't they should be smart about that because you're going to
about that because you're going to discourage Elite Fighters like him from
discourage Elite Fighters like him from going down there he doesn't want people
going down there he doesn't want people to see everything that he's working on
to see everything that he's working on while he's in the middle of a training
while he's in the middle of a training camp just because you know it's not even
camp just because you know it's not even so much seeing what you're working on
so much seeing what you're working on it's just it's just a distraction you're
it's just it's just a distraction you're just trying to focus and do the job at
just trying to focus and do the job at hand it's already stressful enough and
hand it's already stressful enough and you got to go in and oh you know it
you got to go in and oh you know it sounds like
sounds like bloody taking pictures and stuff like
bloody taking pictures and stuff like that it's it's not what you're going
that it's it's not what you're going there for and it's of course all
there for and it's of course all fighters they appreciate just like just
fighters they appreciate just like just like you you know you appreciate the
like you you know you appreciate the support and the and people want to
support and the and people want to picture that's very very nice but when
picture that's very very nice but when you're training for a fight you're going
you're training for a fight you're going in there and you're tired you beat the
in there and you're tired you beat the sporing session didn't go well yesterday
sporing session didn't go well yesterday you know whatever it is and now you got
you know whatever it is and now you got to deal with that as well and it's like
to deal with that as well and it's like some dude just standing there holding
some dude just standing there holding the camera in front of your [ __ ] it
the camera in front of your [ __ ] it annoys me yeah it's a distraction and
annoys me yeah it's a distraction and it's also the the the gym is supposed to
it's also the the the gym is supposed to be this place where you're with
be this place where you're with likeminded people all focused on one
likeminded people all focused on one goal getting better that's what training
goal getting better that's what training is that's why I enjoy training at ruker
is that's why I enjoy training at ruker so much when private gym private gym
so much when private gym private gym private gym built for BJ pen in the Ruka
private gym built for BJ pen in the Ruka Factory M you know it's invitation so
Factory M you know it's invitation so you're not going to get bothered you
you're not going to get bothered you know what I mean there's a lot of guys
know what I mean there's a lot of guys out here that is different name uh Roa
out here that is different name uh Roa Roa is a sunglass company in Austin and
Roa is a sunglass company in Austin and they have this beautiful gym and a lot
they have this beautiful gym and a lot of like John Doner and those guys the
of like John Doner and those guys the his guys like Gordon Ryan they're
his guys like Gordon Ryan they're training out there right right right and
training out there right right right and Tim Kennedy does a lot of training there
Tim Kennedy does a lot of training there too but it's the same thing private CH
too but it's the same thing private CH sure exactly nobody's gonna [ __ ] with
sure exactly nobody's gonna [ __ ] with it's such a different environment there
it's such a different environment there you know what I mean you're not on
you know what I mean you're not on display you're not you're not performing
display you're not you're not performing the whole time you're in there you're
the whole time you're in there you're trying to get better you're trying to
trying to get better you're trying to work on something and you're not annoyed
work on something and you're not annoyed you don't want to be annoyed you want
you don't want to be annoyed you want like Clarity of focus it is annoyed yeah
like Clarity of focus it is annoyed yeah have you ever thought about uh training
have you ever thought about uh training people have you ever thought that that
people have you ever thought that that might be in the
might be in the future I'd like to one day one day I I I
future I'd like to one day one day I I I I would love to one day and I will do
I would love to one day and I will do that but right now I'm still still doing
that but right now I'm still still doing me do you know what I mean and if you're
me do you know what I mean and if you're training somebody that's got to be 100%
training somebody that's got to be 100% all in on them it's a very selfless task
all in on them it's a very selfless task you know what I'm saying and I'm just
you know what I'm saying and I'm just not ready to do that yet I I just
not ready to do that yet I I just wouldn't be Fair on whoever it was cuz I
wouldn't be Fair on whoever it was cuz I can't dedicate all my time to them you
can't dedicate all my time to them you know what I'm saying pulled in a million
know what I'm saying pulled in a million different places it's great it's
different places it's great it's stressful it's annoying but I'm happy
stressful it's annoying but I'm happy with it um when that all dies down you
with it um when that all dies down you know and and no one's [ __ ] interested
know and and no one's [ __ ] interested or No One hiring me anymore or speak to
or No One hiring me anymore or speak to me anymore or whatever then yeah I'll be
me anymore or whatever then yeah I'll be training people and I can't wait for it
training people and I can't wait for it to be honest really yeah I'd like to do
to be honest really yeah I'd like to do that I'd like to take a couple of little
that I'd like to take a couple of little Proto JS under my wing and see where we
Proto JS under my wing and see where we go where do you think you would do that
go where do you think you would do that you would do that in you think uh I have
you would do that in you think uh I have no idea where life's going to take me
no idea where life's going to take me where I'm going to be in a few years
where I'm going to be in a few years yeah but wherever it is yeah I'd like to
yeah but wherever it is yeah I'd like to I'd like to yeah you know learned a
I'd like to yeah you know learned a thing or two about mixed martial arts
thing or two about mixed martial arts over the years believe it or not do you
over the years believe it or not do you know yeah yeah so you know how to get
know yeah yeah so you know how to get people ready see that was always my
people ready see that was always my thing you know with a lot of coaches you
thing you know with a lot of coaches you know I I wouldn't I would have a hard
know I I wouldn't I would have a hard time sometimes listening to what they
time sometimes listening to what they had to say
had to say because I've been doing it way longer
because I've been doing it way longer and a way higher higher level than you
and a way higher higher level than you ever [ __ ] dreamed of but yeah you
ever [ __ ] dreamed of but yeah you know I'm not saying like like there's
know I'm not saying like like there's I'm not talking about Jiu-Jitsu I know
I'm not talking about Jiu-Jitsu I know what you mean that's completely
what you mean that's completely different but I'm talking about a guy
different but I'm talking about a guy that's [ __ ] never stepped foot in a
that's [ __ ] never stepped foot in a ring and they're going to try and talk
ring and they're going to try and talk to me about the psychology of fighting
to me about the psychology of fighting and all the rest of it when that's been
and all the rest of it when that's been my entire life forever so I always had a
my entire life forever so I always had a hard time when I met Jason pillo that
hard time when I met Jason pillo that was great because he's the real deal you
was great because he's the real deal you know but he's done a tremendous job for
know but he's done a tremendous job for a lot of Fighters oh he's incredible
a lot of Fighters oh he's incredible there's so many charlatans though
there's so many charlatans though there's a lot of fakes a lot of pretend
there's a lot of fakes a lot of pretend a lot of wannabes you know you know what
a lot of wannabes you know you know what I mean and they sometimes just get a
I mean and they sometimes just get a really good athlete and that person
really good athlete and that person performs well and then they like try to
performs well and then they like try to Hitch their buggy and because that
Hitch their buggy and because that person is doing well in the UFC that
person is doing well in the UFC that opens other doors for other Fighters and
opens other doors for other Fighters and all of a sudden this guy supposedly this
all of a sudden this guy supposedly this great coach that's created all these
great coach that's created all these great Fighters no I mean I'm not saying
great Fighters no I mean I'm not saying I know nothing about Greg Jackson's
I know nothing about Greg Jackson's coaching ability but that was a super
coaching ability but that was a super camp where everyone just good talent was
camp where everyone just good talent was attracted to them to that one spot maybe
attracted to them to that one spot maybe he's a great coach I've never worked
he's a great coach I've never worked with him I I'm not talking about I think
with him I I'm not talking about I think he is I think from all accounts I'm not
he is I think from all accounts I'm not talking [ __ ] about him when but
talking [ __ ] about him when but greatness attracts greatness and all of
greatness attracts greatness and all of a sudden you think I want to go try and
a sudden you think I want to go try and there and then all of a sudden you've
there and then all of a sudden you've got Champions Galore it's not
got Champions Galore it's not necessarily because of one guy in in
necessarily because of one guy in in there has some secret that the world
there has some secret that the world doesn't know right right right there's
doesn't know right right right there's not a lot of those guys out there those
not a lot of those guys out there those those guys that are just like like
those guys that are just like like there's a few guys like Matt Hume fasah
there's a few guys like Matt Hume fasah Habi Duke Rufus there's a few of those
Habi Duke Rufus there's a few of those guys that just have an understanding of
guys that just have an understanding of the sport yeah like like for me with
the sport yeah like like for me with Jason the best thing for me he was a
Jason the best thing for me he was a great coach but it was this working on
great coach but it was this working on the mind for me that was everything he
the mind for me that was everything he helped you a lot with that big time in
helped you a lot with that big time in what way I was always too emotional
what way I was always too emotional always too emotional too worked up too
always too emotional too worked up too angry yeah uh and yeah yeah you know
angry yeah uh and yeah yeah you know like for example you know I remember
like for example you know I remember well I used to go into every fight
well I used to go into every fight thinking if I was mad or angry then that
thinking if I was mad or angry then that was the best way to be turns out it's
was the best way to be turns out it's the opposite you need to be cool Karm
the opposite you need to be cool Karm and collected look at Anderson Silva you
and collected look at Anderson Silva you know what I'm saying yeah being angry
know what I'm saying yeah being angry you might beat 95% of the people but the
you might beat 95% of the people but the true Elite you're going to get caught
true Elite you're going to get caught out yeah and uh like when I fought for
out yeah and uh like when I fought for the Bel for
the Bel for example I remember I was doing Jiu-Jitsu
example I remember I was doing Jiu-Jitsu with Brady Fink and it wasn't going my
with Brady Fink and it wasn't going my way I was having a tough time and I
way I was having a tough time and I snapped at it like [ __ ] what the [ __ ]
snapped at it like [ __ ] what the [ __ ] you know what I mean and Brady bless him
you know what I mean and Brady bless him he was always a great guy I'd always
he was always a great guy I'd always take my [ __ ] but he had no need to and I
take my [ __ ] but he had no need to and I remember Jason said mik look listen
remember Jason said mik look listen you're fighting for the world title next
you're fighting for the world title next week we think you're gonna win the belt
week we think you're gonna win the belt we think you've got a good chance but
we think you've got a good chance but maybe you don't and maybe this is it
maybe you don't and maybe this is it this is the height of your MMA career
this is the height of your MMA career all this work that you've done to get to
all this work that you've done to get to this point which by the way is a great
this point which by the way is a great place to be you're fighting for the belt
place to be you're fighting for the belt your face is on all the pollers
your face is on all the pollers pay-per-view main event at The Forum in
pay-per-view main event at The Forum in Los Angeles great position to be how
Los Angeles great position to be how about we [ __ ] go through this with
about we [ __ ] go through this with the smile on our face and enjoy this
the smile on our face and enjoy this time or if you want we can go through it
time or if you want we can go through it and we could all argue and you can be a
and we could all argue and you can be a stressy [ __ ] oh we can enjoy it how
stressy [ __ ] oh we can enjoy it how about that and I was like do you know
about that and I was like do you know what you're absolutely [ __ ] F right
what you're absolutely [ __ ] F right do you know what I mean that's like one
do you know what I mean that's like one of many many different examples like I
of many many different examples like I remember I pulled up outside the gym one
remember I pulled up outside the gym one day Jason's out there smoking a
day Jason's out there smoking a cigarette I walk hey what's up coach
cigarette I walk hey what's up coach he's that right there's about four or
he's that right there's about four or five guys in there all killers all
five guys in there all killers all waiting for you it was the sparing day
waiting for you it was the sparing day he said can you go in there and act like
he said can you go in there and act like a [ __ ] Champion you know even though
a [ __ ] Champion you know even though I wasn't a champion but you're a
I wasn't a champion but you're a champion to them they're all killing to
champion to them they're all killing to be in your position they're all young up
be in your position they're all young up and cominging Fighters no money you know
and cominging Fighters no money you know just like you used to be going there
just like you used to be going there [ __ ] be a champion of the world you
[ __ ] be a champion of the world you know don't let little things bother you
know don't let little things bother you don't blow up you know don't [ __ ]
don't blow up you know don't [ __ ] lose your temper or anything like that
lose your temper or anything like that go in there and control the room control
go in there and control the room control the energy show them you're the champ
the energy show them you're the champ you know just little things like that
you know just little things like that you know it definitely helped beautiful
you know it definitely helped beautiful yeah Michael Bisping I appreciate the
yeah Michael Bisping I appreciate the [ __ ] out of you I'm looking forward to
[ __ ] out of you I'm looking forward to you you this weekend for the first time
you you this weekend for the first time yes be a good time looking forward to it
yes be a good time looking forward to it and great fights um your movie is out
and great fights um your movie is out March no 15th March I believe I I should
March no 15th March I believe I I should know this there we go it goes the UK and
know this there we go it goes the UK and internationally from the 21st of March
internationally from the 21st of March so is it uh March 21st I have no idea
so is it uh March 21st I have no idea well definitely 21st I can't see you go
well definitely 21st I can't see you go to bisbing Doc it says available to rent
to bisbing Doc it says available to rent and own on digital in the UK and
and own on digital in the UK and internationally from 21st of March so
internationally from 21st of March so the US from 22nd of March so here 22nd
the US from 22nd of March so here 22nd of March UK uh 21st of March Australia
of March UK uh 21st of March Australia 24th of March check it out that's it
24th of March check it out that's it check it out are you still doing a
check it out are you still doing a podcast yes it is it
podcast yes it is it still Anthony Smith is my co-host oh
still Anthony Smith is my co-host oh yeah yeah yeah so you were doing that
yeah yeah yeah so you were doing that one with Lewis with leis Gomez that was
one with Lewis with leis Gomez that was believe you me right correct still
believe you me right correct still believe you me you guys stopped that
believe you me you guys stopped that yeah yeah yeah well I contined it you so
yeah yeah yeah well I contined it you so you do it now with Anthony Smith do it
you do it now with Anthony Smith do it now I love Anthony Smith's great guy
now I love Anthony Smith's great guy what a guy good combination and that's
what a guy good combination and that's available everywhere that's available
available everywhere that's available everywhere yeah he tones me down a
everywhere yeah he tones me down a little bit cuz I get a little crazy
little bit cuz I get a little crazy anon's a little more levelheaded good
anon's a little more levelheaded good for me do you know what I mean beautiful
for me do you know what I mean beautiful yeah all right brother well thank you
yeah all right brother well thank you very much and for we'll see you this
very much and for we'll see you this weekend appreciate it bye everybody
weekend appreciate it bye everybody [Music]
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