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Welcome back everyone to the show. It's
your host Danny Highong. Please hit the
like button as you come on. We have an
incredible show for you today. We are
going to talk about all of these
escalations leading to a third world
war. Donald Trump is rapidly torpedoing
any chance of peace in Ukraine, if there
was ever a chance at all beyond a total
Russian victory. Two Ohio class
submarines are now parked somewhere in
the region near Russia on Trump's orders
following a social media spat with
former Russian President Dmitri Medvev.
Russia has an answer. Its name is
Arashnik the missile that is as well as
a firm position to move forward on the
battlefield with increasing vigor and
effectiveness. Meanwhile, another
chapter in the US war on rising
multipolar nations in the global
majority is being opened as China
prepares its own defensive maneuvers
along with Russia in the Pacific as
larger war with China looms. With all of
this said, we are going to discuss all
of it and more with uh two very good
friends of the show, Brian Berlettic of
the New Atlas and KJ No. wanted to play
and talk about uh this
escalation on the part of the Trump
administration. Okay. Uh so Donald Trump
has sent two Ohio class submarines
somewhere close to Russia. We don't know
where. Um but this is what he said on uh right-wing
right-wing media
media
uh about the situation. former president
of Russia who's now in charge of one of
the most important councils uh Medvidev
said some things and it was very bad
talking about nuclear and when you
mention the word nuclear I say you know
my eyes light up and I say we better be
careful because it's the ultimate threat
shouldn't have said it he's got a fresh
mouth he said things in the past too and
so we always want to be ready and so I
have sent to the region two nuclear
submarines. I just want to make sure
that u his words are only words and
nothing more than that.
Yes. Well, uh also uh in this uh
escalation, we have to get to some of
the context. This is what uh Donald
Trump was referencing this spat with
Dimmitri Medved. This is what Medve
wrote on uh Telegram. He said uh about
India's we'll just go to the third
paragraph. It's the most important.
India's and Russia's dead economies
entering very dangerous territory. Well,
let Trump remember his favorite movies
about Walking Dead as well as how
dangerous the fabled dead hand can be
referencing a nuclear escalation
doctrine on the part of Russia. So, uh,
before I get to the whole archnic
situation, Brian, your initial reactions
to, uh, what's going on when it comes to
Ukraine visa v Trump as Donald Trump
himself, uh, uh, poses ultimatum,
imposes ultimatums on Russia or attempts
to, and threatens nuclear war.
Uh, well, this was this was all about
continuity of agenda. This was You know
what I had I had said before he even was
elected president. I said that all of
this is going to continue. There is a a
single agenda and the only thing that
changes are the lies that are used to
sell the agenda to the public and the
excuses made for why things are not
changing despite campaign promises
otherwise. And so what we see President
Trump doing right now is making excuses
and just outright lying about why this
war continues. This war he said he was
going to stop in 24 hours. And people
said, "Well, that that's not even re
realistic. He couldn't do that if he
wanted to." But in reality, this is a
war between the United States and Russia
being fought in and through Ukraine.
Again, the New York Times reported this.
You know, this isn't me saying this or
Russia saying this. The New York Times
admitted from 2014 onward, the US
Central Intelligence Agency took control
over all of Ukraine's intelligence
agencies. And from 2022 onward, US
generals have been at the top of the
chain of command of UK Ukraine's armed
forces. So, this this is literally being
fought and overseen and organized and
planned by the United States. And all
the US president has to do is say, "I'm
bringing the generals home. The CIA is
out and then the war is over." And he he
he literally could make this decision in
one day and then it would be over. And
what he's trying to do right now is just
freeze the conflict. And I warned people
if you listen carefully even during his
the campaign, this was what he was
saying. This is what JD Vance was
saying. This is what everyone else uh he
had around him during campaign season.
This is what they were saying. They were
saying we we shouldn't be sending
weapons to Ukraine because we need them
to go fight China. So it's not ending
war, it's just creating a bigger war.
But then there was always the caveat
that we are going to dump this conflict
on Europe. So we're not we're not we're
not ending it. We're at best going to
try to freeze it because we're losing it
right now as you alluded to uh earlier
Danny. And uh we are going to continue
this but through Europe. And as I
constantly repeat, this is about
division of labor, which is a term US
labor. And this is also about strategic
sequencing. The US cannot fight Russia,
China, and Iran all at the same time. So
they need to do it in turn. And so this
is what we're watching. And what we're
watching is Biden policy being sold
under the MAGA
America first marketing slogans. That's
that's all this is.
Yeah, KJ, your assessment.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with Brian. Uh
there's a very clear continuity of
agenda. Uh people think that it's chaos
or consolidation, but no, it's clearly
consol a continuity. And so this is what
makes things uh you know uh extraordinarily
extraordinarily
uh dangerous. Uh the thing about the
submarines I think it's important to
point out um this is rhetorical
posturing but even rhetorical posturing
is dangerous because it signals that
you're moving up the escalation ladder.
The signals themselves are part of the
escalation ladder. Just so that we
understand you know the Ohio class
submarine let's assume that it's a SSBN
ballistic missile launching Ohio class
submarine. Each one of them uh carries
24 Trident 2 missiles. These Trident 2
missiles have a range between 7,600
km to 12,000 km. So just the fact that
Trump is saying that I'm placing them
closer actually doesn't mean very much
because they're designed to launch uh
intercontinental missiles. But again the
firepower that they have is uh each each
uh trident uh if you consider that it
has you know 24 that it will be carrying
uh 24
uh uh trident missiles each one which
has eight 475 kiloton uh warheads then
you're looking something in the range of
about 91,000
kilotons that a single submarine can
launch. That is to say, the equivalent
of 6,000 Hiroshima.
If you have two of them that are being
signaled right now, that's 12,000
Hiroshima right there. So, in other
words, this is an extraordinarily foolish
foolish
uh you know, threat to be making. Uh and
it it's not simply you know trolling or
uh you know um posturing because these
kinds of messaging push you further up
the escalation ladder and it's uh and
with Trump's mindset where he you know
he has said himself that about nuclear
weapons you know what do you mean we
can't use them meaning that he thinks
that you know it's permissible to use
these things. So, it's just an extraordinarily
extraordinarily
dangerous situation and it ties into the
fact that the US is continuing to escalate
escalate
to war to world war and I believe that
it is fully capable uh of using nuclear weapons.
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, Brian, I
wanted to actually before we get to uh
Russia's response in a second, I just
wanted to show you this uh because major
mainstream media, Western media are very
happy about Donald Trump's posture right
now toward Russia, including here uh on
Newsweek, Trump fix NATO. Uh he can fix
it's about prescription drug prices. But
what I found so interesting is that this
person was a deputy US trade
representative for the first Trump
administration. And essentially what he
says is he says he successfully fixed
NATO by getting NATO and all European
countries in NATO to fall into line. And
so I'm curious, Brian, where does this
all fit in? Because uh that's his
argument. That is the argument of
Jeffrey Jerish, the author of that
article. He says that Europe, the
European countries in NATO are falling
into line and Trump did that. He fixed
NATO and now NATO is talking about 2027
war with Russia and Trump is uh using
Twitter spats, ex uh spats, social media
spats to escalate with Russia. It's all
it all points the same direction. Your
thoughts? Well, well, first of all,
President Trump's comments and and
announcement that he's moving these
submarines, as KJ pointed out, which is
just it's just absurd. It's it's
posturing. It's probably never even
happened. These submarines are, again,
as KJ pointed out, they're always within
reach of of US, you know, designated
adversaries. But the point is, he's
responding to something someone said on
X about the dead hand. The dead hand is
a a system or or a method of retaliating
against a nuclear strike on Russia. This
is what this is what Russia was talking
about. If we are attacked, even if you
wipe out all of our leadership, we still
have this mechanism in place to
retaliate with nuclear weapons. So, so
this is what President Trump is reacting
to. something somebody said in defense
against constant US wararm mongering
toward Russia. Now, I can prove that
President Trump always meant to to lie
to the American people from the very
beginning about ending ending the
conflict in Ukraine because at the same
time he constantly said he was going to
end the conflict in 24 hours, he was
also saying, "I'm going to get NATO to
to ramp up spending. every every member
in NATO is going to spend up to 5% of
their GDP uh on on military matters for
NATO. Why does NATO exist? NATO exists
solely to confront, encroach upon,
encircle, contain, and eventually absorb
Russia. That is its only purpose for
existence. And if Trump is talking about
expanding NATO while at the same time
claiming he's going to end this war
against Russia, he he's telling you
upfront that no, we're not actually
going to end the conflict in Ukraine.
I'm telling you what you want to hear.
The agenda is to continue this
belligerance toward Russia, this
encroachment upon Russia, the
encirclement and containment of Russia,
and this this constant threat to Russia
that obviously Russia is going to
respond to. So even during campaign
season, he was telling you this was
never going to end. It was only going to
escalate. If you're telling NATO members
you need to spend more on NATO, it's
because you need NATO to do more what to
do more confrontation toward Russia. So
again, people have to listen carefully
to what is actually being said instead
of just hearing what they want to hear.
So I, you know, it's just it's blatant.
It's blatant. I think a lot of people
have woken up. I think more people still
need to wake up. And unfortunately,
people are going to people who have
invested in President Trump, especially
Americans who have invested in President
Trump, he can do no wrong in their mind.
And and in their mind, they they just
constantly tell themselves, "Well, maybe
that's not really what I voted for, but
at least it's not Camala Harris. At
least it's not Biden." When in reality,
it is. It's just continuity of agenda
with President Trump selling it instead
of somebody else.
You know, KJ, a lot of this uh seems to
point to uh the Trump administration's
uh deep commitment to trying to dictate
terms not only to Russia but the entire
multipolar world. And while some in the
United States may have had expectations
about what Donald Trump would do with
regard to Ukraine and and so-called
peace, which is completely being burst
under by both his words and deeds,
Vladimir Putin, uh I'll just play this
uh on mute because it's in Russian with
captions. I'll read it for all of you.
Um let me just speed it up a bit. Um
this is what he said when he was with uh
Victor Lucenko of Bellarus uh about
negotiations with the US. As for any
disappointments on anyone's part, all
disappointments arise from excessive
expectations. This is a well-known
general rule. In order to approach the
issue in a peaceful manner, it is
necessary to have detailed
conversations. not in public but this
must be done calmly
in silence of negot in the negotiation
process. So uh Putin spells it out quite
firmly there that uh he didn't given the
way things have gone he didn't really
have uh huge expectations and now uh the
situation has changed completely. Uh but
KJ your comments. Yeah. So I I think
Putin is showing himself as the measured
and uh skilled statesman he is. He's
pointing out both you know
philosophically and pragmatically
um expectations need to be managed. Uh
and I think this is a message both to
his domestic audience uh the
international audience as well as the
white house. Uh I think that it's pretty
clear that you know whatever hope uh
that people were deluding themselves
around deescalation is no longer you
know possible. I think that as Brian has
pointed out we are looking at continuity
of agenda. We're looking at division of
labor. We're looking at strategic
sequencing. Uh that said uh you know
once again we have to understand the US
political system for what it is. Each
time we have a new president, they each
come in saying and promising the moon
and most notably always promising to end
wars. I mean, this was true for Nixon.
It's true for Obama. This is why Obama
was elected. I mean, within days he
received the Nobel Prize for, you know,
for peace, Nobel Peace Prize, right? Of
course, is completely unwarranted. Same
thing for Trump. he was elected on an
anti-war platform because the desire for
people which is completely uh you know
rational is for peace. People want they
want peace. They want stable lives so
they can go around go ahead and try to
build decent lives for themselves and
their families. And when you have war
that destroys everything. And of course,
we have the wararmonger class, which as
far as I can tell, seems dead set on uh
on war, on global war. And we're looking
at the four horsemen of capitalism.
We're looking at de-industrialization.
We're looking at uh financialization,
we're looking at deskkilling, and we're
looking at internal contradictions that
can only be dealt with by escalating to
kinetic war. Uh this is the reset button
for a failing system. It's the wall
defibrillator that you use when the
capitalist beast, you know, has gone
into cardiac arrest. You you start the
war machine. And this is what I'm very
very afraid of. And this is what
everything seems to be pointing towards.
Yeah. and and Brian uh your comments on
on Russia's
uh you know how Russia has responded
here because
uh throughout the duration of this we
haven't seen Russia budge on their
demands we haven't seen them even give
an inch there isn't even any uh whiff of
normalization uh forget the uh uh forget
the conflict itself uh your thoughts
about how Russia's respond to all of
this because still uh Steve Wickoff is
going to have come and gone from Russia
uh very soon and no one is expecting any
kind of quote unquote breakthrough
because the the song and dance is the
same. It's the US going in and saying do
what we say. This is what we want from
you. Exactly what you said earlier,
Brian. We want a ceasefire. We want to
freeze. Your thoughts?
Exactly. For Russia, it's existential.
This is a war being waged against Russia
by the United States. It's not even just
being waged uh against Russia through
Ukraine, but through all of Europe and
through all of these so-called allies, I
think more accurately to call them
proxies of the United States, client
states of of the United States, and this
is what they're responding to. So if if
they were to agree to a ceasefire,
essentially freezing the conflict, all
they're doing is giving the collective
West time and space to rearm to
reorganize Ukraine's military, to
reorganize Europe's military because
they're getting online to go in next. We
we see them making the preparations and
it would it would knock the wind out of
Russia's momentum that that they have
and the advantage that they have in
terms of military-industrial production.
This is something that I think people
are somewhat complacent. They think that
there's there's no possible way for the
US to catch up and and in a lot of ways
it's it's difficult for them to catch
up. But every single year they're
they're working on it a little bit more
each each year. And you don't have
forever to fight this war. So, so Russia
needs to end this. They need to end it
on their terms. If it is frozen, it will
end up like Syria, a conflict everybody
thought was uh concluded or at least
stalemated but in favor of Syria and its
allies, Russia, Iran, Hezbollah. But we
saw how the how the United States
reorganized its that the the terrorist
proxies it was using, how it used
nations like Turkey and Israel, Saudi
Arabia, Qatar, uh all of these nations
to to recalibrate their support for
these terrorists. And when the
opportunity availed itself, they they
took it. They completely overthrew and
and collapsed Syria as a functioning
nation state. And so this is what Russia
is looking at if they were to capitulate
to these demands. And what the United
States is doing right now, they're not
looking for peace. They want to freeze
it. They want to coersse Russia into
accepting a freeze so that they can
create the conditions later on where
where they could where they could
succeed, where they are where they are
currently failing. If you look at the
map on the ground in Ukraine, Russian
forces uh just took Chasavar.
Uh they are on the doorstep of Severk
and they have entered into Copian. They
have they've surrounded Petros, which is
all of these are extremely heavily
fortified areas along the line of
contact. Yep, that's that is Patrosk
right there. Uh there's reports that
Russian forces are operating across the
city. We we we've been hearing this for
for weeks and the Ukrainians are saying,
well, that is it's normal. You just get
a couple of these sabotage teams, but
it's it's every single day. So, it's
it's more than just that. And the
logistics have been complicated. And
once that that happens, everything
starts to accelerate. And this is what
Russia has done to to all of these major
cities. And and Ukraine has not been
able to stop Russia even one time. Once
this process begins, inevitably the city
will fall and everything will move even
further west. And and if you look at the
map, you see that Ukraine is running out
of cities to to to hide in until they
reach the deeper river. So this is this
is significant. This is why we see panic
across the west and especially in in
Washington who ultimately engineered
this proxy war and is worried about
losing it.
Yeah. Yeah. And KJ, uh, perhaps you can,
uh, build on that cuz as Brian was
talking, you know, there there are these
battle significant battlefield uh,
achievements by Russia of Le Chaft
Tashabar as he mentioned Prosovk is just
an absolute mess for Ukraine and the US.
Uh, then there's also the political
situation for Ukraine is very unstable.
talks of a kind of internal regime
change scenario likely coming in the
very near future. Um, you know, there's
there just seems to be mounting problems
and just the way that Donald Trump is
behaving is showing that when uh uh
there is an unfavorable situation in
front of the war machine, it it
regresses to the mean. Uh KJ, your final
thoughts on this?
Well, you're absolutely right. I mean
this is you know it's so repeated so
often that it's starting to become trit
but Kissinger said that it is dangerous
to be an enemy of the United States and
it is lethal it is deadly uh to be an
ally and this is exactly the same thing
that we see happening for Zalinski I
mean Zalinski was a corrupt clown of uh
you know a potentate you know you put a
clown in power you are going to get a circus
circus
Uh but uh but what he was supposed to do
was he was supposed to take direction
cleanly and he was the US never imagined
that Ukraine uh would not win. Russia is
a gas station, right? They were just
going to roll over it. It was just an
appetizer on the way to the main course
which was China. And so now that he is
losing uh they want to get rid of him
just as they wanted they got rid of DM
that they got rid of Sing Manri they got
rid of uh Pak Janggh all of these
dictators that the US puts into power
when they become losers and Trump hates
nothing. There's nothing that Trump
hates more than a loser. Once they
become losers they become expendable and
they need to change them out. We know
that, you know, there are people waiting
in the wings. Uh and uh all of this
signals that the US, the West knows that
they're losing on the battlefields.
They're trying to see if they can get
some kind of a a rebrand uh on the
political sphere and see if they can
stoke up their vassels and get them to
uh re-engage in war. But ultimately, it
is a lost war. This is war of attrition.
uh depends on industrial capacity and as
we've said many many times before if you
de-industrialize you not only are you
de-industrializing but you're also
deskilling if you've done that then it's
very very hard to recover that the
problem is that United States has the
United States is led by a generation of
military leaders that have not engaged
in protracted industrial war for at
least two gener generations and so they
are completely unmed. They don't
understand what they're doing. They're
still relying on Israeli war doctrine
which is which came out of the Yamipur
war which then was the basis of the US's
air land battle which is also the basis
for the anti-war doctrine air sea
battle. And this is based on rapid
decapitation strikes. It is not about
protraction or industrial warfare and
they simply are not capable of
understanding that the situation has
changed. And once again, if that
happens, then you know what is the ace
in the hole that they will reach for? Do
they actually have the capacity to
freeze it? Are they going to resort to
nuclear threats? Well, they already are. So,
So,
well, let's get to this. Let's get to
another aspect because usually Russia
responds to threats. It responds to
escalations in a variety of ways. So
let's talk about uh this uh so first uh
you know Vladimir Putin was visiting uh
uh Mr. Lucenko Victor Lucenko of
Bellarus to talk about in particular our
archnik missiles which are going to be
deployed and stationed in Barus. Um, and
this is what he had to say. Uh, hold on.
No, this is not the right one. This is
what he had to say regarding this that
has uh the the collective west in
somewhat of a a major state of alarm.
Here's what he said. The first thing I
we have already manufactured the first
serial production ornik missile complex
So uh the archnik missile is now mass-
prodduced. it is fielded and uh that of
course uh given the test that occurred
last year and how much that frightened
the west and and the power of that
missile uh that has caused some great
panic. But then a Russian lawmaker had
this to say in particular about the
nuclear submarine threat. Uh Victor
Vodelski responded to Donald Trump's
nuclear submarine threat. uh the
movement of nuclear submarines to
appropriate regions by saying there are
significantly more uh nuc of our nuclear
submarines in the world's oceans and
they have the strongest and most
powerful weapons. This is why uh Trump's
two boats let them float. They have been
at gunpoint for quite a long time. So
very strong words. I mean these this
moment is very reminiscent of the cold
war. Uh it's a a very kind of new cold
warlike moment where we have Russia
gearing up uh in a very big way, Brian,
uh for this larger conflict and rashnik
are now a part of this. Many people have
said, well, this isn't a direct threat.
It doesn't merely mean much. It doesn't
mean arnik are going to be used, but
they're available and that is that's a
that's a big deal for a country like
Russia, which is under significant
threat right now. What's your thoughts?
Well, this this is Russia.
Russia has to demonstrate significant
deterrence against the United States and
its client states because if they don't,
we we can see the US will just continue
taking and taking and taking. They do
this salami slice strategy where they
just take just a tiny bit each time so
that it doesn't seem like a big deal,
but over time it starts to add up.
They've been doing the exact same thing
to Iran in the Middle East and they've
done the exact same thing to China in
the Asia Pacific. And as a matter of
fact, we've already seen the conflict uh
with Iran culminate in open war. And
this is exactly how these other
conflicts are going to unfold. And the
United States honestly believes that
eventually it could fight uh a war
against these countries directly. It
suspects that it can do this without it
escalating to to nuclear warfare or they
they believe somehow it would be limited
nuclear war. and they feel and maybe
there is some truth to this, they're on
the other side of the planet. They have
oceans between them and everybody else.
And so when when they are causing all of
this uh murder, mayhem, death, and
destruction from one side of Eurasia to
the other, they're destroying everything there.
there.
And the United States remains untouched
on on the other side of the planet. They
the US has its forces spanning the globe
and they're able to project this
military power in ways that both Russia
and China cannot. Of course, Iran most
certainly cannot. And so, so this does
give them an advantage. They see that
over time the trajectory of the rise of
multipolarism, the the fading of US-led
unipolarism. They know that this
opportunity isn't going to last forever.
So, they're trying to take advantage of
it now while it lasts. Now you were
talking about the archnik and how these
weapons and other weapons have been
stationed in Bellarus and what Russia is
basically doing is extending protection
and and essentially almost integrating
Barus into the Russian Federation
because if they don't do this, the US is
going to uh use its other super weapon
that a lot of people don't don't really
seem to talk about or notice that much
and that is America's ability to
infiltrate and politically capture a
targeted nation. This is what they did
to Ukraine which caused this war in the
first place which shortcircuited the
Ukrainian people's ability to to pursue
their own best interests and to
essentially commit national suicide. And
they openly tried to do this to Barus
many times over the past two or three
decades since the end of the cold war.
Essentially they are doing this here in
the Asia-Pacific region. They've already
politically captured Europe. The
European Union is essentially an
American project, an extension of
American policy. People always ask, why
is Europe doing this? They're destroying
their own economy. Why are they doing
this? Because the people in power do not
represent or or reflect the interest of
Europe. They reflect the interests of
Washington who put them there in power.
They're doing the they want to create
the same dynamics here in the
Asia-Pacific region. And they they've
done this in the Middle East to a great
degree. They have all kinds of proxies
there who are pursuing war and proxy war
against their own best interest to serve
American hegemony worldwide. So this is
this is the the threat that Russia,
China and Iran are faced with and I
would say multipolarism as a whole and
the the response to this has to be full
spectrum because the US is waging full
spectrum war against them.
Yeah. Well, uh KJ, perhaps assess that
in the case of Russia then because uh
you know uh not only did this Russian
lawmaker say straight up that we have
our weapons pointed at you, we have our
submarines pointed at you, uh they're
more effective, they're they've been
there for quite a long time. But uh when
it comes to the archnic, I mean, this is
quite a powerful weapon. And while yes,
the United States uh to Brian's point,
it has the will. It wants to expand. it
wants to move. There's a there's a
Russia and China, these countries, they
don't want to fight wars of aggression.
So, uh, what do you make of the overall
situation and Russia's response in this context?
context?
Well, you know, once again, I think it's
important to highlight that Russia has
been very very measured throughout the
war. Uh, but the US is pushing the
buttons and they're trying to go as far
as they can. So, you know, absolutely
Russians don't want to fight just like
the Chinese don't want to fight. They
don't want a war, but they're also
signaling that if we need to go up the
threshold, if we need to go up the, you
know, the escalation ladder, we will.
And the Russik uh or uh the archnik is a
very interesting weapon because it is a non-nuclear
non-nuclear
strategic weapon. that is it's a weapon
that has the force and the destructive
capacity of a nuclear weapon. Uh but it
is non- nuclear. It works purely from
the kinetic energy that it generates in
its incredibly
uh rapid hypersonic flight. The US has
nothing that can deal with that that can
uh challenge that. And even if we were
to remove Orshnik from the picture,
we've also seen that the US uh missile
shield, the US capacity to defend itself
has been tested. It's been thoroughly
tested in the recent Israel Iran war,
the 12-day war, and it has been found
completely lacking. Let's think about
what happened between uh you know, in
the exchange between Iran and Israel.
Well, you know, uh, True Promise 3 was
the largest ballistic missile launch in
history, 500, 550 missiles. We don't
know exactly how many hit, but we know
that the battle damage was enough uh
that Israel had to tap out and that it
also is hiding the battle damage. This
is currently censored. So, whatever
happened, we know that it was significant
significant
in this process. We also know that the
US threw everything they had against uh
Iran's uh missile capacity. That is they
brought in patriots from other theaters.
In fact, they said it was the most
intense patriot engagement in the
history of the weapon. They brought in
the THAAD system. Uh the Israelis
themselves had David's arrow uh sorry,
David sling arrow two and three and the
Iron Dome. So multiple layers of defense
uh systems uh and the Russians were able
to uh to to to to you know to to to
demolish these uh with what look to be
largely conventional uh ballistic
missiles. So that sends a very very
strong message to the United States. You
no longer have escalation dominance. You
no longer have a missile shield. Uh you
no longer have impunity in attacking
countries with standoff weapons as that
they have always had. And if you think
of that equation and then on top of that
you add hypersonics like the rashnik
which as I said are strategic uh
non-uclear weapons then I think that the
United States if it were to think uh
carefully would say you know we need to
sue for peace right away but it's not
doing that. It only knows one thing
which is to escalate and to move
forward. It doesn't have a reverse gear.
doesn't even have uh you know it it the
neutral the idle gear is only so that it
can go forward again and so this is a
very very dangerous moment uh and we
have to understand that you know as
Brian said the US will do several other
things it's waging full spectrum uh war
uh so uh as conventional war becomes
less and less uh viable uh they will do
you know the kind of dirty wars the
small wars, the regime change, uh color
revolution operations creating
essentially chaos around the world and
certainly all around Asia.
And then the other thing that you know
we know is being prepared are tactical
nukes which uh Elbridge Colby has been
uh talking about for at least a decade.
Uh and then we also know that the
information warfare will continue to
accelerate. The the key strength that
the United States has above and beyond
any other uh skill and capacity is its
capacity to mystify, indoctrinate and to
wage information war. So once again we
should expect an even greater uh level
of uh propaganda and indoctrination.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Brian, you know, you
as KJ was talking, I was thinking about
your prior point about how the United
States can't really catch up to Russia.
Uh, it's trying, but what's such an
interesting contradiction for the United
States at this time when it comes to
developments like the Archnik is that it
has to its doctrine has been uh win wars
quote unquote quickly, right? full
spectrum dominance and aggression. Take
out the enemy quote unquote as fast as
possible. Regime change as fast as
possible. That is victory. Now with
Russia though, there's a commitment to a
long war because that was never really
in the cards. And uh it's a it's it's a
dangerous contradiction when you both
have uh this uh need to keep the
conflict going on the part of the United
States as well as the fact that Russia
is going to uh continue onward
developing its own industrial base uh
leading to possibly this uh parallel
process between the two of of of endless
conflict and that seems to be the only
choice the US has and is very committed
to doing
Well, I I'd be very careful about
underestimating the United States. No,
no, they do not have the industrial
power to wage a protracted war of
attrition with Russia or China or even
with Iran. We we saw the the trouble
they had in in that conflict as as KJ
was just pointing out. The the problem
is the United States fully understands
this. They understand that this is a
weakness. It's inherent and the the
system that represents US special
interests is pursuit of power and profit
over purpose. The the inability to
create the state-owned enterprises that
would actually facilitate the the
military power required to to seize
power, keep power uh by force only by
force. But see, the United States has
cultivated all of these other options.
They have tremendous economic power.
They're still wielding. I just watched
the United States coersse multiple
nations in Asia here in Southeast Asia
into these I wouldn't even call them
trade deals. It's it was trade
concessions and trade coercion. And
they're able to do this because of their
e their economic power and all the other
non-military uh instruments of power
that the US has has perfected over the
the last several decades. And I I keep
going back to this uh ability of the US
to infiltrate a country politically in
terms of seizing its information space,
education, rigging the political system
if it's a nation that has a a western
style uh you know quote unquote
democracy. This is a system the US and
and the British imposed on many of these
countries outside of the west
specifically because it allows them to
come in interfere in that system and
create the results each and every single
time an election takes place that favors
them and their interests at the cost of
the the interest of the actual country
holding these so-called elections. And
the United States still has tremendous
power over many nations. Uh has outright
politically captured all of uh Europe,
Japan, South Korea. It has taken the
island province of Taiwan is politically
captured. That this is part of China,
but has been politically captured by the
United States. Uh and the United States
is working its way into nations uh where
it has varying levels of success here in
Southeast Asia. uh there was this border
conflict between Thailand and Cambodia.
The dynamics there were specifically
because US has influence uh pretty
pretty much over the entire Cambodian
government. It's it's a it's a one party
single family government and they have
pivoted hard back toward the United
States over the last year or so. And
they also have politically captured the
the political system, information space
and education system here in Thailand.
And there is currently a USbacked client
regime in power here. And so this is how
they're able to get these these
countries to make concessions to make
agreements to do things to pursue
policies that serve US interests at
their own expense and create these
dilemmas for nations like Russia, Iran
and China. These nations are surrounding
these these nations are located along
their peripherates. This is this is a
super weapon the US has and uses. uh and
this is how it's this is how it is
responding to the reality that it no it
cannot fight an an all-out war against
Russia and China directly but it has
other ways of of pursuing this conflict.
I I just want to remind people that the
whole the whole conflict in Ukraine was
never about defeating Russia. It was
about extending Russia. There's
literally a paper titled extending
Russia by the Rand Corporation published
in 2019 that says we want this conflict.
We are going to throw Ukraine into this
conflict. We know Ukraine will be
destroyed, but it will raise the cost
for Russia. It will overextend Russia.
It will tie up Russia. And this is where
strategic sequencing comes in place. If
if the US just pivoted from from Russia
to Iran or to China, and it did not
create this this quagmire to suck Russia
in into Ukraine, Russia could just pivot
and and take all of its resources and
support Iran or to support China. But
because the US has created these
dilemmas for Russia and Ukraine, for
Iran in in across the entire Middle East
and for China in terms of Taiwan and
Southeast Asia, the South China Sea, it
it has locked all of these countries in
place and this is what will allow them
to to attack and defeat in detail all
all three of these pillars of multipolarism.
multipolarism.
Well, you know, Putin alluded, Brian and
KJ, I'll get your response after uh we
play this. Putin alluded to this in his
uh presser with uh uh Victor Lucenko of
of Bellarus. This is what he said. I'll
put it on mute again because it's in
Russian with actually in the modern
world this has always been important but
today especially sovereignty plays a
particularly key role one might say
including for economic development.
Um it was clear that the European Union
did not have that much sovereignty. uh
today it has become obvious that it does
not exist at all and this is immediately
followed in the critical situation and
economic losses that follow. But KJ uh
Russia, China, I mean these countries
are championing sovereignty very very
hard uh much to Brian's uh assessment I
think in response to Brian's assessment.
So but your your reaction to all of
this? Well, you know, I think, you know,
we've had this discussion before. Uh, as
Brian says, you know, the US's super
weapon is uh information war. It
dominates information space and mental
space. And it does this because it has
had centuries of practice in uh uh in in
essentially propaganda. You know, it's
marketing, it's propaganda, it's also,
you know, religious doctrine. All of
these things come together in a way that
is very very powerful that allows them
to control and have literally monopoly
control over information space and they
also control the hardware as well that
allows uh the access or the
dissemination of information. So that is
a very very tough uh knot to crack. But
uh specifically regarding you know the
notion of sovereignty the United States
regards any country that asserts it
sovereignty as authoritarian. So for
example you know China is authoritarian
because it upholds its sovereignty. Now
technically technically uh the world
system is supposed to be made up of
sovereign states. So this is actually
you know goes back to the treaty of
Efallia. you know, it's at least four
centuries old. Uh, and certainly it was
enshrined in the UN and certainly in the
Bandon principles of sovereignty and non-inference.
non-inference.
But all of that has been thrown out the
window if it was ever, you know,
anything more than window dressing.
Specifically in the early 2000s, the US,
you know, came forth with a doctrine
where they said that sovereignty is
contingent. What is it contingent on?
Well, they said it's contingent on good
governance and human rights. What they
really mean is it's contingent on
whether you are a good vassel, whether
you allow yourselves to be subjugated uh
to the hgeimon. And so the US has
constructed this entire you know
vocabulary with which it captures you
know the global system as I said you
know operations mean war, defense means
offense uh security means hijgemony. So
anytime the US talks about ensuring
security, what they really are talking
about is ensuring US hijgemony. Anytime
they say deter, for example, deter
China, what they're really talking about
is provoking China. And certainly this
notion of sovereignty has been so wiped
clean of its original sense uh because
the US has this hegemonic ambition to
control all the countries of the world.
Now that is slipping it slipping away
clearly. uh Russia, China, Iran are
sovereign states uh and as are more and
more countries of the global south but
still the US uh you know ability the
power to compel and to coersse other
countries is significant and as Brian
pointed out we s saw this in the ways
that they all kind of peeled off and
capitulated one by one uh to Trump's
tariffs I mean just one example is South
Korea which has agreed to do agreed to
15% tariffs uh and $450 billion worth of
investment and purchases uh of which
$350 billion
uh South Korea's committed to invest in
the United States. Now, the the tricky
thing here is that that's about all of
South Korea's foreign exchange reserves.
In other words, they're going to empty
their pockets in order to please or to
appease the hgeimon.
That said, uh I don't want us to think
that everything, you know, is lost and
that, you know, it's just one-sided
game. Once again, if you look at Korea,
Korea recently got rid of the US quizing
Yunagal. He was literally, you know,
impeached, kicked out. Uh, and now they
have, uh, you know, uh, a very much more
progressive leader who is trying his
best a not to get couped and b, uh, to
put up some kind of resistance against
the empire. If you look at the
discussions around geostrategic
uh, maneuvering uh, in East Asia, Korea
is more and more dropped. the ambitions
for Korea seem to be more diminished and
the role of Japan is much more uh
emphasized or accelerated. Most recently
US discussions around you know using
nuclear weapons uh uh with Japan.
Uh Taiwan of course is uh you know it is
the spear point of US ambitions in East
Asia but once again very recently they
tried to initiate a judicial sorry a
legislative coup. They were going to uh
recall all the opposition lawmakers who
are opposed to their escalation to war
and they were actually thoroughly
trounced at the ballot box uh which
shows that there is considerable
resistance on the ground. Right now the
U US quizzling DPP Taiwan party is
reeling and as are as is the United
States itself because it it things have
not gone according to plan and of course
Japan has been blowing hot and cold.
Ishiba has you know has been uh going
along with the Shinszo Abi agenda which
is you know rapid remilitarization but
he has also been a little bit of a loose
cannon. He's said in the past that yes,
you know, we we want to support the
United States. We're happy to have US
bases on our territory, but as a
sovereign state in terms of reciprocity,
we would also like to place Japanese
military bases on US sovereign
territory. You know, that did not go
over well, and it looks like he's going
to be, you know, pushed out. But there
are contradictions inside the system and
those are the those are the things that
we have to look for. We have to look at
where the contradictions are, see where
there are crevices uh and then we have
to you know kind of uh expand and allow
those contradictions to be visible and present.
present.
Yeah. And uh I think to both of your
points, you know, I think they go very
well together. It's there's for the
United States as its empire really loses
the capacity to arrest the development
of something like multipolarity, the
more desperate it becomes. And the more
desperate it becomes, yes, there's a lot
of weakness and decline there. But, uh,
when an empire is backed into a corner,
it lashes out as much and as hard as it
can. And that's that's what it is doing
now. And that's why uh Brian to your
point you know that not only uh has the
United States has totally come its
foreign policy has totally come to the
conclusion that uh there is no real
quote unquote defeat of Russia beyond
continuing this conflict as long as
possible and uh hoping and seeing if
that opens up opportunities in the
future that maybe we can't foresee that
allows them to uh get what they want
which is of course the dismemberment of
Russia. Um any any quick thoughts,
Brian, and then we can uh move on where
we can move on.
Yes. I I just want to remind people that
because Russia was tied up in Ukraine,
still is tied up in Ukraine, the United
States was able to finally and fully
dismember Syria. And then uh because
that was a prerequisite for allout war
on Iran, advanced that agenda to toward
actual war with Iran, which is still
ongoing. It's it's paused. The the the
outright fighting is paused. uh everyone
on on all sides is getting ready for the
next round. That is that is far from
finished there. And I want to point out
yes, China has tremendous military
power. It continues to grow. But I want
to remind people that the United States
again has this global spanning military
and the plans the policies that they are
putting into place and and what they are
actually physically preparing for is not
to fight China and defeat it uh on its
own uh territory or along its shores. It
it wants to create a conflict, raise the
cost for China, and then also use any
any conflict as an excuse to cut off
Chinese maritime shipping worldwide.
They are putting the pieces uh into
place to do this. And Danny, you were
talking about this CSIS uh war game. I
don't I don't know if you mentioned it
during the show, but before before we
went live, you were talking about CSIS,
one of these corporate funded think
tanks. They were talking about
wargaming, a Chinese blockade of their
own island province of of Taiwan and all
the different things that could happen.
And one of the the outcomes was the US
able to use that as as a pretext to uh
isolate China diplomatically,
politically, economically. And that is
they they will provoke this war. Whether
they win it or not doesn't matter. They
will use that as the pretext to cut
Chinese maritime shipping, to isolate
China in in all of the ways that has
tried to isolate Russia. And that I see
people in the in the comment section
confused about whether I'm saying the US
will win or not. I'm not saying that
they're going to win or not win. I'm
just saying people should not
underestimate them. They are extremely
dangerous and what they lack in
military-industrial production, they
more than make up for in political
meddling, subversion, and political capture.
capture.
Yeah. And I would say winning is really
not the question for the US foreign
policy establishment anymore because uh
it's trying to hold on to an empire and
in many ways China and Russia have won
in so many critical categories. Ryan you
mentioned earlier Russia's industrial
military production it's won that. I
mean there's it's done. It's I mean
that's that's happened. uh if the United
States can prolong this long enough,
maybe they can keep Ukraine and and go
on to other fronts like Malddova or
whatever, you know, and find ways to
militarily and politically
um encircle Russia. But uh just on the
the pure facts of military industrial
production, Russia has won that and
China economically has already won that.
It's it's really a matter of um you know
other than maybe pure GDP terms but it's
really a matter of for the United States
how can it stop that and that's that's
what it will do um at all costs maybe uh
to uh the uh biggest cost leading to the
biggest cost which is which is nuclear
conflict which Donald Trump is openly
talking about as if it's a joke and that
is that is no joke. Um, but I think this
is a really good time actually since
both of you referenced uh wargaming,
China, Taiwan. Uh, there is a lot of
alarm being spread about a Chinese
invasion of Taiwan coming and here is a
Taiwan official. a lot of uh
misreporting going on, but this seems to
happen every some weeks where we are
told that some Taiwan uh based official,
this one's called the deputy foreign
minister, uh there's no such thing, but
that's what they call themselves since
it is a province of China. But here is
what he had to say regarding China and Taiwan.
Taiwan.
The population need not to be naive like
the past. China is preparing to invade Taiwan
Taiwan
if an attack came in the next 18 months.
Is Taiwan ready? Is Taiwan prepared enough?
enough?
Uh Taiwan alone face on China, we
cannot, we will never be ready. It's not
possible. China is so big, so huge.
Maybe it's also the tactic of China
trying to push Taiwan to the maximum and
then to be very nervous. They wanted to
uh to become the one who will take the
first action who to shut the first
You think that you think that's right?
They're actively trying to provoke a response.
response.
Yeah. Uh we we suspect if one day China
Taiwan, of course, it will be very bad
for Taiwan.
We maybe will be destroyed.
So, uh not a lot of optimism there, but
a lot of blame and and demonization of
China nonetheless. And uh this you
mentioned and you were t you've talked
about KJ uh Taiwan's recall vote. So
this happened twice in the last year um
an attempt by the DPP the separatist
party uh to take back the so-called
legisl legislator uh legis uh leg
legislative council. Uh the frustration
uh of this so-called grassroots campaign
by the DPP to recall KMT legislators was
was really horrific. in July 26. Um the
first recall vote occurred actually in
July 26 and none of them none of them
the KMT legislators which is the uh
nationalist party which fled uh to the
Taiwan island after 1949 uh were
recalled and they are for of course one
China which is uh a a thorn in the side
of the US backed separatists. Uh so
before I get to the war games part of
this KJ, your reaction to the hype and
the continual hype of a Chinese invasion
of Taiwan?
Well, I mean the first thing to point
out is that it's not possible for a
country to invade itself. Uh Taiwan is
part of China. It's a province of China.
This is recognized by Chinese uh Chinese
law. It's recognized by the Taiwan
authorities's own constitution.
Certainly, it's recognized by the United
States, recognized by all the countries
of the world. It's recognized by the
United Nations. Taiwan is not a country.
It is a province of China. It's a
province that has pretensions to being
something that it is not. It's as it's
very similar to the United States. The
United States had a civil war. As the
Civil War was coming to a a close, the
Confederates, they decamped and they
escaped to Galveastston Island off of
Texas uh and they were regrouping there.
And if we can imagine the hypothetical
where China had said to the Confederate
Confederate army decamped on
Galveastston Island, yes, you are the
United States and we will arm you and we
will support you until you can take back
the entirety of the United States.
That's essentially what happened. It's a
rump state masquerading as a country.
And China even so has said that it does
not want to wage war. It wants peaceful
reunification. And essentially China's
great superpower is patience. It's
willing to wait uh decades if not
hundreds of years until Taiwan falls
back into the fold, which I believe it
will. Uh but the problem is the United
States. The United States has been
weaponizing Taiwan. It's been using it
as a forward military base. In fact, you
can track the history of US
relationships with China through phases
of chi Taiwan's history from 1949 until
the mid70s. Taiwan was a US forward
military base on which the US actually
parked uh nuclear weapons and was
constantly threatening China. It went
from being a military base uh into a
kind of a US hedge and that was the
second phase of US China relations which was essentially detaant we're talking
was essentially detaant we're talking about you know the uh three communicates
about you know the uh three communicates and you know Nixon and Kissinger in
and you know Nixon and Kissinger in China etc.
China etc. The third phase
The third phase and during this period, Taiwan was used
and during this period, Taiwan was used as a hedge, but it was not used overtly
as a hedge, but it was not used overtly to wage war against China, but it was
to wage war against China, but it was used as a way of subcontracting for
used as a way of subcontracting for dirty wars. And so, for example, uh the
dirty wars. And so, for example, uh the kind of dirty wars that the US was
kind of dirty wars that the US was waging that were too dirty to be done on
waging that were too dirty to be done on the books even for the CIA would be
the books even for the CIA would be subcontracted to Taiwan Island. And then
subcontracted to Taiwan Island. And then the Taiwan uh Taiwan would for example
the Taiwan uh Taiwan would for example engage in uh you know they would train
engage in uh you know they would train death squads in Latin America. The civil
death squads in Latin America. The civil uh air transport which is Taiwan's
uh air transport which is Taiwan's international carrier was also called
international carrier was also called Air America. So they were used to
Air America. So they were used to smuggle drugs out of the Golden Triangle
smuggle drugs out of the Golden Triangle to fund dirty wars through Myanmar
to fund dirty wars through Myanmar against China. And also uh Taiwan was
against China. And also uh Taiwan was used as a kind of a global clearing
used as a kind of a global clearing house for global fascism. It you know
house for global fascism. It you know supported Israel. It supported South
supported Israel. It supported South Africa when Israel was helping South
Africa when Israel was helping South Africa get the uh the nuclear uh nuclear
Africa get the uh the nuclear uh nuclear bomb. Uh Taiwan was you know major
bomb. Uh Taiwan was you know major purchaser of uranium from South Africa.
purchaser of uranium from South Africa. In fact it contracted for 2,000 tons of
In fact it contracted for 2,000 tons of uranium because they were all going to
uranium because they were all going to you know turn themselves into nuclear
you know turn themselves into nuclear states. uh and so on and so on. So it
states. uh and so on and so on. So it has been a bad actor throughout and it's
has been a bad actor throughout and it's like a pawn which is posed on the eighth
like a pawn which is posed on the eighth row uh of the chessboard that is you
row uh of the chessboard that is you cannot ignore it because it poses an
cannot ignore it because it poses an imminent threat certainly if it's used
imminent threat certainly if it's used as a gambit then it has to be taken out
as a gambit then it has to be taken out immediately. So that's the threat and
immediately. So that's the threat and this is what the United States is trying
this is what the United States is trying to do with Taiwan. It's trying to it's
to do with Taiwan. It's trying to it's been Ukrainizing it, you know, for the
been Ukrainizing it, you know, for the past five years and it's been trying to
past five years and it's been trying to use it as a trigger to force China into
use it as a trigger to force China into some kind of kinetic response or even a
some kind of kinetic response or even a blockade and then to use that as a quasi
blockade and then to use that as a quasi with which to pile on uh against China.
with which to pile on uh against China. It's as if, you know, you're constantly
It's as if, you know, you're constantly on the basketball court. You're
on the basketball court. You're constantly driving into the paint and
constantly driving into the paint and you're trying to draw the foul with the
you're trying to draw the foul with the hope that once the foul is drawn, you
hope that once the foul is drawn, you know, you can get everybody stirred up
know, you can get everybody stirred up and everybody will come down from the
and everybody will come down from the bleachers uh and get into a a huge
bleachers uh and get into a a huge fight. And that's essentially Elbridge
fight. And that's essentially Elbridge Coly's strategy, what he calls strategy
Coly's strategy, what he calls strategy of denial. essentially use Taiwan to
of denial. essentially use Taiwan to trigger war, get all your allies to
trigger war, get all your allies to pitch in and then have you know a
pitch in and then have you know a massive uh uh you know massive war
massive uh uh you know massive war against China. So all of this is so
against China. So all of this is so deeply and intricately set up and you
deeply and intricately set up and you know they've been doing this or they've
know they've been doing this or they've been you know I mean Elbridge Colby is
been you know I mean Elbridge Colby is talking about this for over a decade. uh
talking about this for over a decade. uh but this is uh the the situation which
but this is uh the the situation which is so extraordinarily hair trigger
is so extraordinarily hair trigger dangerous and most recently what the DPP
dangerous and most recently what the DPP did was something very similar to what
did was something very similar to what Korea did. It knows that if it wants to
Korea did. It knows that if it wants to trigger war the vast majority of people
trigger war the vast majority of people on Taiwan Island are opposed to war.
on Taiwan Island are opposed to war. They want nothing to do with war because
They want nothing to do with war because you know everybody in China is their
you know everybody in China is their family. Literally they're related uh by
family. Literally they're related uh by blood. they're essentially, you know, 90
blood. they're essentially, you know, 90 95% of the population have relatives in
95% of the population have relatives in Fujian or or China. They don't want to
Fujian or or China. They don't want to kill uh their own families. And so in
kill uh their own families. And so in order to make this happen, Taiwan has
order to make this happen, Taiwan has passed a series of regulations among
passed a series of regulations among which are a kind of bringing back of
which are a kind of bringing back of military rule or martial courts uh
military rule or martial courts uh military courts in order to uh you know
military courts in order to uh you know have this kind of arbitrary uh capacity
have this kind of arbitrary uh capacity to uh shape uh uh action uh inside the
to uh shape uh uh action uh inside the country and then they were trying to get
country and then they were trying to get rid of the opposition legislature which
rid of the opposition legislature which is opposed to war and essentially have a
is opposed to war and essentially have a legislative coup so that they
legislative coup so that they essentially have a unitary government.
essentially have a unitary government. Now, this is parallel to what was
Now, this is parallel to what was happening in Korea because again, Korea
happening in Korea because again, Korea is the other big flash point.
is the other big flash point. Historically, Taiwan and Korea have
Historically, Taiwan and Korea have always come together. They've always
always come together. They've always happened at the same time. At least
happened at the same time. At least three times in history. Anytime there's
three times in history. Anytime there's been an invasion of China, uh the two
been an invasion of China, uh the two on-ramps have been Taiwan Island and the
on-ramps have been Taiwan Island and the Korean Peninsula.
Korean Peninsula. But Korea just recently barely escaped
But Korea just recently barely escaped uh a military coup. Yunagel was dead set
uh a military coup. Yunagel was dead set on triggering a military coup uh in
on triggering a military coup uh in South Korea and he and among his plans
South Korea and he and among his plans uh he was going to trigger war with
uh he was going to trigger war with North Korea. We know this, you know,
North Korea. We know this, you know, with great certainty at this point that
with great certainty at this point that the plan was to trigger war with North
the plan was to trigger war with North Korea by sending drones and lobbing
Korea by sending drones and lobbing missiles and doing all and and creating,
missiles and doing all and and creating, you know, and killing off uh, you know,
you know, and killing off uh, you know, South Korean legislators and blaming it
South Korean legislators and blaming it on North Korean spies. And by triggering
on North Korean spies. And by triggering a war with North Korea, then South Korea
a war with North Korea, then South Korea would have reverted to a military
would have reverted to a military dictatorship and the US would have taken
dictatorship and the US would have taken operational control over South Korea's
operational control over South Korea's 500,000 regular troops and 3.1 million
500,000 regular troops and 3.1 million reserve troops. That's extraordinary
reserve troops. That's extraordinary um you know military manpower that they
um you know military manpower that they would have then automatically assumed
would have then automatically assumed for their you know uh military purposes
for their you know uh military purposes that was thwarted by the people rising
that was thwarted by the people rising up and you know overthrowing and
up and you know overthrowing and impeaching Yunarel and who's who's now
impeaching Yunarel and who's who's now you know facing charges of sedition and
you know facing charges of sedition and treason.
treason. But just before Yunzagal uh declared
But just before Yunzagal uh declared martial law, his chief of military
martial law, his chief of military intelligence went to Taiwan Island to
intelligence went to Taiwan Island to coordinate with them. And the moment uh
coordinate with them. And the moment uh the military martial law was declared,
the military martial law was declared, uh Taiwan DPP government started to
uh Taiwan DPP government started to praise it in the media. And so you can
praise it in the media. And so you can see that it was a kind of coordinated uh
see that it was a kind of coordinated uh plan. And once again, as I say, you
plan. And once again, as I say, you know, this hearkens back to this period
know, this hearkens back to this period when Taiwan and South Korea and the
when Taiwan and South Korea and the Philippines and South Africa and Israel
Philippines and South Africa and Israel were this kind of global axis of pariah
were this kind of global axis of pariah states that were the clearing house for
states that were the clearing house for global fascism as subcontractors to US
global fascism as subcontractors to US imperial designs. That situation looks
imperial designs. That situation looks to be coming back. The most, you know,
to be coming back. The most, you know, striking example is the attack, the
striking example is the attack, the pager attack on Lebanon, which was done
pager attack on Lebanon, which was done through a Taiwanese company, Gold
through a Taiwanese company, Gold Apollo, which made the pages. They said
Apollo, which made the pages. They said they didn't. They say, "We just licensed
they didn't. They say, "We just licensed our brand." But what company licenses
our brand." But what company licenses its brand without doing any quality
its brand without doing any quality control, without knowing what its brand
control, without knowing what its brand is being used for? They said, "Oh, we
is being used for? They said, "Oh, we don't know anything what happened." But
don't know anything what happened." But they have never shown any contracts.
they have never shown any contracts. They've never shown, you know, what the
They've never shown, you know, what the exact agreement was. And why would you
exact agreement was. And why would you take a company, spend decades building
take a company, spend decades building up and then simply traffic out your
up and then simply traffic out your brand without doing any quality control
brand without doing any quality control unless this was a highly coordinated
unless this was a highly coordinated uh intelligence operation, which
uh intelligence operation, which everything seems to signal. that is a
everything seems to signal. that is a highly coordinated intelligence
highly coordinated intelligence operation using Taiwan in its old role
operation using Taiwan in its old role as a as a proxy for US uh and fascis
as a as a proxy for US uh and fascis access of fascist uh dirty wars.
access of fascist uh dirty wars. Yeah. And uh Brian, before we get to the
Yeah. And uh Brian, before we get to the war games by CSIS recently conducted uh
war games by CSIS recently conducted uh very related, it seems to this reaction
very related, it seems to this reaction by the separatists themselves of a
by the separatists themselves of a coming invasion from China. What's your
coming invasion from China. What's your reaction first? Well, I think KJ brought
reaction first? Well, I think KJ brought up a lot of really good points and I
up a lot of really good points and I think Taiwan is the a perfect example of
think Taiwan is the a perfect example of the the power of American political
the the power of American political capture and the way it's able to take an
capture and the way it's able to take an entire population and turn it against
entire population and turn it against its own best interests and its against
its own best interests and its against its own survival
its own survival the physical survival. They we we were
the physical survival. They we we were just listening to that that man play
just listening to that that man play acting as uh I think he he was calling
acting as uh I think he he was calling himself a minister of foreign affairs
himself a minister of foreign affairs something like that. He's he's talking
something like that. He's he's talking foreign minister. Yes. That's
foreign minister. Yes. That's yes he's talking about we we might get
yes he's talking about we we might get destroyed. Has he read the US policy
destroyed. Has he read the US policy papers that say yes definitely Taiwan is
papers that say yes definitely Taiwan is going to get destroyed in any sort of
going to get destroyed in any sort of war? And if China doesn't destroy
war? And if China doesn't destroy uh the infrastructure and and the
uh the infrastructure and and the industry on Taiwan, the United States
industry on Taiwan, the United States itself will destroy it to deny it from
itself will destroy it to deny it from falling into the hands of of the rest of
falling into the hands of of the rest of China. Did he read any of that? Does he
China. Did he read any of that? Does he look in the news and see what is
look in the news and see what is happening to Ukraine right now at this
happening to Ukraine right now at this time? And so obviously he knows all of
time? And so obviously he knows all of these things. He doesn't care because he
these things. He doesn't care because he knows that when this happens in his
knows that when this happens in his mind, he thinks, well, I'll just leave.
mind, he thinks, well, I'll just leave. Doesn't matter to me. it will be all
Doesn't matter to me. it will be all these ordinary people that that are
these ordinary people that that are stuck with the consequences my my uh
stuck with the consequences my my uh compl my complicity in this this US
compl my complicity in this this US agenda he will be in the United States
agenda he will be in the United States or into in Europe and if we look at the
or into in Europe and if we look at the history of the the US capturing nations
history of the the US capturing nations um coups failed coups these people
um coups failed coups these people stay in the country for as long as they
stay in the country for as long as they can and then when when time is up
can and then when when time is up usually they will go back back to the US
usually they will go back back to the US or Europe who wherever they were
or Europe who wherever they were prepared, that's where they will return.
prepared, that's where they will return. So, so this is a huge problem and Taiwan
So, so this is a huge problem and Taiwan is right off the coast of the rest of
is right off the coast of the rest of China and yet China still has a a
China and yet China still has a a problem uh trying to win over the
problem uh trying to win over the information space, the education system
information space, the education system and and and and the island province of
and and and and the island province of Taiwan is dependent on the rest of China
Taiwan is dependent on the rest of China for for its economy, its economic
for for its economy, its economic survival, and yet they're still
survival, and yet they're still struggling to do this. So, this is this
struggling to do this. So, this is this is a huge weakness, I think, of
is a huge weakness, I think, of multipolarism.
multipolarism. uh bricks, the SEO, all of these groups,
uh bricks, the SEO, all of these groups, ACEN, they they for some reason they
ACEN, they they for some reason they don't really seem to understand. I think
don't really seem to understand. I think China understands within mainland China,
China understands within mainland China, they understand information space is a
they understand information space is a national security domain. Russia
national security domain. Russia obviously understands this, but their
obviously understands this, but their ability to help other nations in say
ability to help other nations in say bricks or nations that aspire to join
bricks or nations that aspire to join bricks. Their ability to help nations
bricks. Their ability to help nations defend information space as a national
defend information space as a national security domain is almost non-existent.
security domain is almost non-existent. I don't see any any cooperation or any
I don't see any any cooperation or any progress in this this uh matter and this
progress in this this uh matter and this is the this is what allows the United
is the this is what allows the United States to get into a country and turn it
States to get into a country and turn it against its own best interest and the
against its own best interest and the best interests of multipolarism and if
best interests of multipolarism and if you if you cannot do that it doesn't
you if you cannot do that it doesn't matter how much military equipment you
matter how much military equipment you can produce uh every day every month
can produce uh every day every month every year if if if a country does not
every year if if if a country does not have people willing to take up that
have people willing to take up that equipment or will not point it in the
equipment or will not point it in the right direction then it's all for
right direction then it's all for nothing. So this this is something I
nothing. So this this is something I think people need to concentrate more on
think people need to concentrate more on multipolarism the the leaders of
multipolarism the the leaders of multipolarism and we as individuals need
multipolarism and we as individuals need to pay more attention to this.
to pay more attention to this. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the the the
Yeah. Yeah. Well, the the the complications of uh China uh putting
complications of uh China uh putting into its foreign policy uh information
into its foreign policy uh information uh sharing information technology
uh sharing information technology sharing all of this uh requires two to
sharing all of this uh requires two to tango and and I think that's where the
tango and and I think that's where the development of bricks and multipolarity
development of bricks and multipolarity uh is really going to uh uh have to move
uh is really going to uh uh have to move forward on which is the fact that uh
forward on which is the fact that uh there isn't uh there is I think a big
there isn't uh there is I think a big move toward toward uh developing in all
move toward toward uh developing in all kinds of areas of economic and political
kinds of areas of economic and political uh diplomatic even military cooperation.
uh diplomatic even military cooperation. Uh but this what you're talking about
Uh but this what you're talking about Brian uh requires a kind of shared
Brian uh requires a kind of shared vision that is still still contested in
vision that is still still contested in the world. It is still very much uh
the world. It is still very much uh contested of what that vision should be,
contested of what that vision should be, what multipolarity should look like uh
what multipolarity should look like uh beyond uh win-win economic cooperation
beyond uh win-win economic cooperation and economic growth as important as that
and economic growth as important as that is which is and it's critical. I wanted
is which is and it's critical. I wanted though to uh play uh this uh video from
though to uh play uh this uh video from the uh uh center for strategic and
the uh uh center for strategic and international studies, a state
international studies, a state department funded uh think tank. They
department funded uh think tank. They recently wargamed a particular crisis uh
recently wargamed a particular crisis uh that Taiwan is uh supposedly going to
that Taiwan is uh supposedly going to face and will face if it engages in a
face and will face if it engages in a USbacked war with China. Um and it's
USbacked war with China. Um and it's going to be playing on I believe uh yes
going to be playing on I believe uh yes uh faster speed. It's a couple minutes
uh faster speed. It's a couple minutes long. So here we go.
long. So here we go. Chinese blockade of Taiwan could trigger
Chinese blockade of Taiwan could trigger the greatest convoy battle since World
the greatest convoy battle since World War II. China would squeeze Taiwan's
War II. China would squeeze Taiwan's imports to force a surrender. Taiwan and
imports to force a surrender. Taiwan and its supporters like the United States
its supporters like the United States would lose dozens of ships to keep
would lose dozens of ships to keep supplies flowing. Blockade is not
supplies flowing. Blockade is not inevitable, but it is possible given
inevitable, but it is possible given China's rhetoric and military buildup.
China's rhetoric and military buildup. To understand how a blockade might play
To understand how a blockade might play out, CSIS conducted 26 war games,
out, CSIS conducted 26 war games, ranging from low-level boarding and
ranging from low-level boarding and seizure to full-scale conventional
seizure to full-scale conventional conflict. Against boarding and seizure,
conflict. Against boarding and seizure, Taiwan's forces could buy time, but
Taiwan's forces could buy time, but China's massive military would
China's massive military would eventually overwhelm them. A Ukraine
eventually overwhelm them. A Ukraine strategy where the United States
strategy where the United States provided support but no troops did
provided support but no troops did poorly because it was so hard for
poorly because it was so hard for shipments to get through without US
shipments to get through without US forces. Mid-intensity war games involved
forces. Mid-intensity war games involved convoy battles. Sometimes the United
convoy battles. Sometimes the United States and Taiwan could keep Taiwan
States and Taiwan could keep Taiwan supplied, but at the cost of dozens,
supplied, but at the cost of dozens, even hundreds of ships. Two of the five
even hundreds of ships. Two of the five free play games escalated to
free play games escalated to high-intensity conventional conflict.
high-intensity conventional conflict. Many game participants look for ways
Many game participants look for ways around risky sea supply, remembering the
around risky sea supply, remembering the Berlin airlift of 1948 to 1949.
Berlin airlift of 1948 to 1949. I just want to apologize to all the
I just want to apologize to all the viewers for the music of this video. It
viewers for the music of this video. It is it's very cringy and it it was
is it's very cringy and it it was impossible for me to I tried to take it
impossible for me to I tried to take it off, but let's continue. However, Taiwan
off, but let's continue. However, Taiwan has 10 times the population. Even a
has 10 times the population. Even a massive airlift could provide only 2% of
massive airlift could provide only 2% of Taiwan's daily needs. Submarines and
Taiwan's daily needs. Submarines and small craft could provide even less
small craft could provide even less support. For China, a blockade risks
support. For China, a blockade risks heavy losses, a long war, and alienating
heavy losses, a long war, and alienating the global community. The Berlin
the global community. The Berlin blockade led to the creation of NATO.
blockade led to the creation of NATO. China might engender a similar response.
China might engender a similar response. Every country on the planet would be
Every country on the planet would be affected because a blockade would
affected because a blockade would disrupt international trade. Beyond
disrupt international trade. Beyond strategy, economics, and logistics, the
strategy, economics, and logistics, the human cost of war would be staggering.
human cost of war would be staggering. It's a conflict that must be deterred.
It's a conflict that must be deterred. The question is how. Taiwan can take
The question is how. Taiwan can take steps to gain control of its cargo fleet
steps to gain control of its cargo fleet in the event of an emergency, continue
in the event of an emergency, continue to build energy resilience, and sustain
to build energy resilience, and sustain its last nuclear power plant. The United
its last nuclear power plant. The United States must maintain its regional
States must maintain its regional alliances and partnerships, and develop
alliances and partnerships, and develop offramps to give China a face-saving way
offramps to give China a face-saving way out of a conflict. For the full CSIS
out of a conflict. For the full CSIS report,
report, so KJ, to you, your reaction to this
so KJ, to you, your reaction to this report? Actually, I wanted Let me just
report? Actually, I wanted Let me just pull it up one more time because I
pull it up one more time because I wanted to show something in particular
wanted to show something in particular that was uh quite interesting. Let me
that was uh quite interesting. Let me just rewind here. Allies. I don't know
just rewind here. Allies. I don't know if anyone can catch that flag uh the
if anyone can catch that flag uh the rising sun flag as part of the Allies.
rising sun flag as part of the Allies. Uh uh let's just say that's a huge nod
Uh uh let's just say that's a huge nod to Imperial Japan, Fascist Japan.
to Imperial Japan, Fascist Japan. Anyway, I just found that to be a very
Anyway, I just found that to be a very interesting little uh visual reference
interesting little uh visual reference there that they use. But uh to you KJ,
there that they use. But uh to you KJ, your assessment of this war games which
your assessment of this war games which is these war games are happening all the
is these war games are happening all the time from think tanks like CSIS.
time from think tanks like CSIS. Yeah, you know just before I go that let
Yeah, you know just before I go that let me a few words about the rising sun. Um
me a few words about the rising sun. Um anybody who grew up in Asia knows that
anybody who grew up in Asia knows that the rising sun is like the Nazi Haken
the rising sun is like the Nazi Haken Cro. You see it immediately. It brings
Cro. You see it immediately. It brings together associations of unbridled
together associations of unbridled genocidal violence. Uh you know at one
genocidal violence. Uh you know at one point um the Japanese march down the
point um the Japanese march down the Shanzaliz and the rising sun is the is
Shanzaliz and the rising sun is the is the military banner. You know the the
the military banner. You know the the the Japanese u national flag itself you
the Japanese u national flag itself you know is just a circle uh with a red it's
know is just a circle uh with a red it's it's it's a white flag with a red circle
it's it's a white flag with a red circle on it. But the rising sun with those
on it. But the rising sun with those tentacles spreading out uh you know is
tentacles spreading out uh you know is the is still the war banner of the
the is still the war banner of the Japanese military. And uh the Japanese
Japanese military. And uh the Japanese were invited to you know France the
were invited to you know France the Shaneliz to um Shanz to you know to
Shaneliz to um Shanz to you know to parade with the French and they brought
parade with the French and they brought the rising sun with them and I actually
the rising sun with them and I actually I and a group of people we wrote uh to
I and a group of people we wrote uh to the French president and said you've
the French president and said you've just broken French law because French
just broken French law because French law says that you you cannot display uh
law says that you you cannot display uh these kinds of symbols in public and
these kinds of symbols in public and anybody who does that you know has to be
anybody who does that you know has to be fined or arrested. And the French
fined or arrested. And the French government actually responded and they
government actually responded and they said, you know, we apologize. They
said, you know, we apologize. They essentially came up with an apology. But
essentially came up with an apology. But this points out how extraordinarily
this points out how extraordinarily triggering and how extraordinarily
triggering and how extraordinarily um disrespectful it is to fly that. It
um disrespectful it is to fly that. It really is the banner of genocide. You
really is the banner of genocide. You know, for China alone, the Japanese
know, for China alone, the Japanese killed somewhere between 27 to 35
killed somewhere between 27 to 35 million Chinese. that rising sun, you
million Chinese. that rising sun, you know, the the the military, the Japanese
know, the the the military, the Japanese military flying the rising sun made the
military flying the rising sun made the Nazis look like boy scouts. And I'm not
Nazis look like boy scouts. And I'm not exaggerating. So anyway, that's an
exaggerating. So anyway, that's an entire different topic. Uh but yes,
entire different topic. Uh but yes, these CESUS exercises are
these CESUS exercises are a message to China. Um, what we do know
a message to China. Um, what we do know is that if the United States were to
is that if the United States were to engage in any kind of conventional
engage in any kind of conventional battle over Taiwan Island with China, it
battle over Taiwan Island with China, it would lose. And there are many reasons
would lose. And there are many reasons for this, but the key reason is first
for this, but the key reason is first the tyranny of distance. You know, the
the tyranny of distance. You know, the United States is thousands of miles
United States is thousands of miles away. Uh, the second piece is that
away. Uh, the second piece is that Taiwan is a small island.
Taiwan is a small island. much as they would like to Ukrainianize
much as they would like to Ukrainianize it, the difficulty is that it's an
it, the difficulty is that it's an island, which means that it can be
island, which means that it can be easily blockaded. You know, Ukraine is
easily blockaded. You know, Ukraine is large land mass with multiple borders
large land mass with multiple borders with multiple NATO states. So, they've
with multiple NATO states. So, they've been able to, you know, keep the supply
been able to, you know, keep the supply chain supply lines going, but Taiwan is
chain supply lines going, but Taiwan is an island and if it were blockaded, it
an island and if it were blockaded, it has about 10 days of natural gas and a
has about 10 days of natural gas and a few weeks of uh coal and oil. And after
few weeks of uh coal and oil. And after that it would uh essentially die from
that it would uh essentially die from energy starvation. And so what CEUS is
energy starvation. And so what CEUS is doing and they do this uh every you know
doing and they do this uh every you know every few months, every six months,
every few months, every six months, every year they come up with new
every year they come up with new exercises and what they try and do is
exercises and what they try and do is they try and massage the military uh
they try and massage the military uh exercises the war the war game uh you
exercises the war the war game uh you know simulation to show that the United
know simulation to show that the United States can win this war that it can
States can win this war that it can prevail and that it can and that it will
prevail and that it can and that it will you know exert tremendous uh you know
you know exert tremendous uh you know damages to China. And as I said, this is
damages to China. And as I said, this is a a signal to China. They're saying to
a a signal to China. They're saying to to the Chinese, look, we can win this
to the Chinese, look, we can win this war. Don't even think about it. The
war. Don't even think about it. The second is they're sending a signal to uh
second is they're sending a signal to uh to themselves saying, yes, we can win
to themselves saying, yes, we can win this war. You know, whatever Lyall
this war. You know, whatever Lyall Goldstein, who really knows the
Goldstein, who really knows the situation, is wrong. Ly Goldstein says,
situation, is wrong. Ly Goldstein says, "Don't even go there. You know, it is
"Don't even go there. You know, it is our war to lose. We would have our rear
our war to lose. We would have our rear end kicked uh you know, in 3 seconds
end kicked uh you know, in 3 seconds flat." And he's been studying it for uh
flat." And he's been studying it for uh 25 years. He knows what he's talking
25 years. He knows what he's talking about. But CEUS, you know, wants to put
about. But CEUS, you know, wants to put forth the neocon aggressive agenda that,
forth the neocon aggressive agenda that, you know, this is a war that we can win
you know, this is a war that we can win and that they can deter a Chinese
and that they can deter a Chinese aggression. When they say deter, of
aggression. When they say deter, of course, it means to provoke because
course, it means to provoke because that's ultimately what they want. As
that's ultimately what they want. As Albridge Kia said, you know, the
Albridge Kia said, you know, the strategy of denial is really a matter of
strategy of denial is really a matter of driving into the paint, provoking China,
driving into the paint, provoking China, and then getting everybody else to pile
and then getting everybody else to pile on. And so CEUS is always doing this.
on. And so CEUS is always doing this. CEUS is a think tank. It's like the CFR
CEUS is a think tank. It's like the CFR or Center for New American Security.
or Center for New American Security. It's one of these incredibly hawkish
It's one of these incredibly hawkish think tanks. It was started by Henry
think tanks. It was started by Henry Kissinger. And their message always is
Kissinger. And their message always is that, you know, even though it seems
that, you know, even though it seems like a war that is ours to lose. Yes,
like a war that is ours to lose. Yes, here is the pathway to win. And by doing
here is the pathway to win. And by doing so, we send a message to US allies. Yes,
so, we send a message to US allies. Yes, you have to join us and make sure you
you have to join us and make sure you get into the fight. Sends a message to
get into the fight. Sends a message to China. We're serious about waging war
China. We're serious about waging war even though we have to lie through our
even though we have to lie through our teeth through these fake simulations
teeth through these fake simulations that are so full of ridiculous
that are so full of ridiculous assumptions that you know you kind of
assumptions that you know you kind of have to you know it's it's just a
have to you know it's it's just a package of lies and then it's also a
package of lies and then it's also a message to themselves yes yes we can do
message to themselves yes yes we can do this it's a kind of a a selfaffirmation
this it's a kind of a a selfaffirmation yes we can win this war yes you know US
yes we can win this war yes you know US can win this war because cis said so so
can win this war because cis said so so it's uh it's thoroughly shot through
it's uh it's thoroughly shot through with stupidity and corrupt option, but
with stupidity and corrupt option, but it's also a very very dangerous signal
it's also a very very dangerous signal because it shows that they're putting a
because it shows that they're putting a lot of money and effort into thinking
lot of money and effort into thinking through uh how they can wage this war uh
through uh how they can wage this war uh and uh and both signal that they can win
and uh and both signal that they can win it but also think uh you know
it but also think uh you know tactically, strategically, operationally
tactically, strategically, operationally uh these are the things that we actually
uh these are the things that we actually have to prepare in order to go to war.
have to prepare in order to go to war. Yeah. And and a lot of this, Brian, has
Yeah. And and a lot of this, Brian, has been in response to the fact that China
been in response to the fact that China has simulated they they not actively
has simulated they they not actively maybe a quote unquote blockade, but they
maybe a quote unquote blockade, but they have simulated quite intense naval
have simulated quite intense naval drills following uh what they see as
drills following uh what they see as illegal visits by so-called Taiwan
illegal visits by so-called Taiwan officials. Either visits from US
officials. Either visits from US officials to Taiwan like Nancy Pelosi a
officials to Taiwan like Nancy Pelosi a few years back, or of course the uh
few years back, or of course the uh Kevin McCarthy visit. I think that was
Kevin McCarthy visit. I think that was uh last year uh or was it the year
uh last year uh or was it the year before that? Either way, there have been
before that? Either way, there have been visit after visit of uh so-called US and
visit after visit of uh so-called US and Taiwan officials and that that that's
Taiwan officials and that that that's what usually sparks this or weapons
what usually sparks this or weapons transfers. But Brian, uh what do you
transfers. But Brian, uh what do you make of the results of what CSIS says
make of the results of what CSIS says and anything else you want to comment on
and anything else you want to comment on with regard to this particular war games
with regard to this particular war games because I know you follow these think
because I know you follow these think tanks quite closely.
tanks quite closely. Yes, I I I I agree with KJ. I don't
Yes, I I I I agree with KJ. I don't think the United States would would win
think the United States would would win this. But is that necessarily their
this. But is that necessarily their objective? Do they want to uh provoke
objective? Do they want to uh provoke because that's what they're doing.
because that's what they're doing. They're provoking a war over Taiwan.
They're provoking a war over Taiwan. They're doing it in vi by the way
They're doing it in vi by the way they're doing it in violation of their
they're doing it in violation of their own recognition of the one China policy
own recognition of the one China policy which is also upheld under international
which is also upheld under international law. Taiwan is part of China according
law. Taiwan is part of China according to everybody. I mean, even even people
to everybody. I mean, even even people who don't recognize the one China
who don't recognize the one China policy, uh, what they what they
policy, uh, what they what they recognize instead is the the
recognize instead is the the administration on the alien province of
administration on the alien province of Taiwan as the the government of all of
Taiwan as the the government of all of China. Nobody on planet Earth recognizes
China. Nobody on planet Earth recognizes Taiwan as as a independent country. No
Taiwan as as a independent country. No one, not not any, not not a single
one, not not any, not not a single country, not that I know of.
country, not that I know of. But I I want to point out something that
But I I want to point out something that that video pointed out. They said uh if
that video pointed out. They said uh if this happened, if China tried to
this happened, if China tried to implement a a blockade of of the alien
implement a a blockade of of the alien province of Taiwan, it would it would
province of Taiwan, it would it would alienate China and and that means
alienate China and and that means politically and economically. And then
politically and economically. And then they talk about oh the the the blockade
they talk about oh the the the blockade of of Berlin that triggered the creation
of of Berlin that triggered the creation of NATO and this this could create
of NATO and this this could create another organization like NATO, an Asian
another organization like NATO, an Asian NATO essentially, which is something
NATO essentially, which is something they're already trying to build. And
they're already trying to build. And because they can't build it, they're
because they can't build it, they're trying to extend NATO's mandate over to
trying to extend NATO's mandate over to Asia. And we we've been talking, all of
Asia. And we we've been talking, all of us have been talking about this for the
us have been talking about this for the last couple of years. This was going on
last couple of years. This was going on under probably the first Trump
under probably the first Trump administration all throughout the Biden
administration all throughout the Biden administration and it continues to this
administration and it continues to this day. Uh so what they want to do is
day. Uh so what they want to do is provoke China into implementing this
provoke China into implementing this blockade or or reacting in some way
blockade or or reacting in some way where they can make a case to isolate
where they can make a case to isolate China economically, politically,
China economically, politically, diplomatically and also
diplomatically and also force coersse nations into picking a
force coersse nations into picking a side. Are you going to pick what just
side. Are you going to pick what just think about the the
think about the the the day after Russia went into Ukraine
the day after Russia went into Ukraine in 2022, February 2022, and all of these
in 2022, February 2022, and all of these nations were put on a spot. are you
nations were put on a spot. are you going to side with us or are you going
going to side with us or are you going to side with Russia? And nobody sided
to side with Russia? And nobody sided with Russia. There were many countries
with Russia. There were many countries that backtracked from that later. But at
that backtracked from that later. But at that moment, everybody everybody was
that moment, everybody everybody was coerced into siding with the United
coerced into siding with the United States. They're going to do the exact
States. They're going to do the exact same thing uh when they provoked this
same thing uh when they provoked this conflict with China over the status of
conflict with China over the status of Taiwan. And they and that is going to be
Taiwan. And they and that is going to be the impetus that they use to to work on
the impetus that they use to to work on these other strategies they're working
these other strategies they're working on. So no, they're not going to try to
on. So no, they're not going to try to fight and win a war against China.
fight and win a war against China. They'll try to make any fight that takes
They'll try to make any fight that takes place as costly as possible for China.
place as costly as possible for China. They have said in in policy paper after
They have said in in policy paper after policy paper, including CSIS in in
policy paper, including CSIS in in previous reports, that the the island
previous reports, that the the island province will be scoured of industry and
province will be scoured of industry and infrastructure. There will be nothing
infrastructure. There will be nothing left. Uh whether they win or they don't
left. Uh whether they win or they don't win, it doesn't matter. That that will
win, it doesn't matter. That that will all be gone. Uh but what they what they
all be gone. Uh but what they what they really want to do is this wider this
really want to do is this wider this bigger picture uh encirclement and
bigger picture uh encirclement and containment of China that they they
containment of China that they they really can't put in place with tariffs
really can't put in place with tariffs and with the the hybrid warfare that
and with the the hybrid warfare that they've been they've been using all the
they've been they've been using all the way up until now. Uh although that all
way up until now. Uh although that all continues to ramp up. All of that will
continues to ramp up. All of that will accelerate exponentially if this were to
accelerate exponentially if this were to happen. This is that's the actual game
happen. This is that's the actual game the US is playing at and CSIS is just
the US is playing at and CSIS is just reflecting something that the
reflecting something that the establishment has been working on and
establishment has been working on and putting the pieces into place for years
putting the pieces into place for years and years up until now. I always bring
and years up until now. I always bring this up under the Biden administration.
this up under the Biden administration. The entire Marine Corps was
The entire Marine Corps was reconfigured. All of their tanks that
reconfigured. All of their tanks that they had been using for decades and
they had been using for decades and decades in in conflicts all around the
decades in in conflicts all around the world. They got rid of those and now
world. They got rid of those and now they are strictly a maritime
they are strictly a maritime interdiction force. They they are meant
interdiction force. They they are meant to interdict maritime uh forces or
to interdict maritime uh forces or shipping. That is their purpose now. And
shipping. That is their purpose now. And that is what they are now under the
that is what they are now under the Trump administration training to do in
Trump administration training to do in the Asia-Pacific region. And so if this
the Asia-Pacific region. And so if this conflict were to take place, they would
conflict were to take place, they would use the the the Marine Corps to
use the the the Marine Corps to interdict Chinese maritime shipping and
interdict Chinese maritime shipping and also naval forces. Uh the US Air Force
also naval forces. Uh the US Air Force is practicing dispersing their forces to
is practicing dispersing their forces to fight China and and prevent China from
fight China and and prevent China from overwhelming a handful of US air bases.
overwhelming a handful of US air bases. Now, there are many more air bases China
Now, there are many more air bases China would be required to hit and constantly
would be required to hit and constantly hit to keep them out of operation. And
hit to keep them out of operation. And so, this is this is what is shaping up.
so, this is this is what is shaping up. A lot a lot of people think the United
A lot a lot of people think the United States isn't going to go to war with
States isn't going to go to war with with China, but they're already at proxy
with China, but they're already at proxy war with Russia. They already fought
war with Russia. They already fought open war with Iran. This is coming. Uh I
open war with Iran. This is coming. Uh I always point out the people behind these
always point out the people behind these policies, they are they are immune from
policies, they are they are immune from the consequences. Everybody else will
the consequences. Everybody else will pay the consequences. Everyone in Asia
pay the consequences. Everyone in Asia will pay. The American people will pay.
will pay. The American people will pay. America's armed forces will pay. These
America's armed forces will pay. These people will be the last people on earth
people will be the last people on earth that will pay the consequences. Until
that will pay the consequences. Until that calculus changes, their mindset is
that calculus changes, their mindset is going to remain locked in this
going to remain locked in this direction. As as KJ said, they they only
direction. As as KJ said, they they only go in they only go forward. They never
go in they only go forward. They never reverse gear. If they go into neutral,
reverse gear. If they go into neutral, it's just so they can go forward again.
Yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah. Yeah. And I I want to um now finally, you know, given all
to um now finally, you know, given all uh that we've talked about here, I want
uh that we've talked about here, I want to bring up just uh something for uh you
to bring up just uh something for uh you know, because I I do think that when it
know, because I I do think that when it comes to these war games, uh when it
comes to these war games, uh when it comes to this aggression toward China,
comes to this aggression toward China, toward Russia, we are seeing I think
toward Russia, we are seeing I think some headway in terms of of a response
some headway in terms of of a response of a real response uh that uh doesn't
of a real response uh that uh doesn't get much attention, but when it does,
get much attention, but when it does, it's usually Western media hype. And so,
it's usually Western media hype. And so, uh, I wanted to actually pull up, um,
uh, I wanted to actually pull up, um, what, uh, China and Russia are doing
what, uh, China and Russia are doing right now. They are holding, uh, joint
right now. They are holding, uh, joint naval drills off of Lavasto. And, uh,
naval drills off of Lavasto. And, uh, according to, uh, US military, US
according to, uh, US military, US military sources, China is sending
military sources, China is sending submarine to Russia during these
submarine to Russia during these exercises for the first time. And that's
exercises for the first time. And that's according to army recognition. The
according to army recognition. The Chinese flotilla includes a kilo class
Chinese flotilla includes a kilo class diesel electric submarine originally
diesel electric submarine originally built in Russia as well as two type 52D
built in Russia as well as two type 52D class guided missile destroyers. Uh the
class guided missile destroyers. Uh the Xiaoing and Rumchi which is not
Xiaoing and Rumchi which is not unironically the capital of Shinjang.
unironically the capital of Shinjang. And then I want to uh pull up
And then I want to uh pull up why Russia and China might be getting
why Russia and China might be getting more militarily involved with each
more militarily involved with each other. So uh some may know the big
other. So uh some may know the big monopoly palanteer a huge supporter of
monopoly palanteer a huge supporter of the Trump administration
the Trump administration especially um JD Vance who comes out of
especially um JD Vance who comes out of that ilkas comes out of this
that ilkas comes out of this corporation. So, Palanteer just recently
corporation. So, Palanteer just recently received a $10 billion contract from the
received a $10 billion contract from the US military, US Army, the defense
US military, US Army, the defense department, um, in order to take care of
department, um, in order to take care of the software and data analysis of the US
the software and data analysis of the US military. And uh for those who aren't
military. And uh for those who aren't familiar with Palanteer in the realm of
familiar with Palanteer in the realm of geopolitics
geopolitics uh it's really I think noteworthy to
uh it's really I think noteworthy to note that its founder Palanteer's Alex
note that its founder Palanteer's Alex Karp says that the US is going to very
Karp says that the US is going to very likely fight a three-front war against
likely fight a three-front war against Russia and China. He said this last year
Russia and China. He said this last year in 2024
in 2024 um that Russia, China and Iran are going
um that Russia, China and Iran are going to be the targets of US war. And it just
to be the targets of US war. And it just so happens that this gentleman is one of
so happens that this gentleman is one of the biggest donors to the
the biggest donors to the military-industrial complex and one of
military-industrial complex and one of the biggest forces in the
the biggest forces in the military-industrial complex itself. So I
military-industrial complex itself. So I wanted to raise that KJ in the overall
wanted to raise that KJ in the overall context of what we've been talking
context of what we've been talking about. But your reaction uh to this
about. But your reaction uh to this you know um so this is how the United
you know um so this is how the United States uh thinks that it's going to win
States uh thinks that it's going to win the war. First, it's going to win in the
the war. First, it's going to win in the digital domain, which as I said uh over
digital domain, which as I said uh over and over again, and I agree with uh
and over again, and I agree with uh Brian, digital sovereignty is key
Brian, digital sovereignty is key because the US excels in digital coups
because the US excels in digital coups and uh China is actually helping uh the
and uh China is actually helping uh the global south build out digital
global south build out digital sovereignty through the um digital silk
sovereignty through the um digital silk road. This was what Huawei was doing
road. This was what Huawei was doing when the United States went after Huawei
when the United States went after Huawei and they actually kidnapped their CFO.
and they actually kidnapped their CFO. So this shows you, you know, that the
So this shows you, you know, that the stakes are very very high and both
stakes are very very high and both parties are aware uh that you know this
parties are aware uh that you know this is the case. But the the thing to
is the case. But the the thing to understand about uh Palunteer and uh all
understand about uh Palunteer and uh all the other AI companies is that they have
the other AI companies is that they have been inducted into war. They're they're
been inducted into war. They're they're part of the military industrial uh AI
part of the military industrial uh AI system that the United States thinks it
system that the United States thinks it can leverage to win a war. Why do they
can leverage to win a war. Why do they think that? Well, the genesis of AI
think that? Well, the genesis of AI itself started uh in military purposes.
itself started uh in military purposes. One part of it was so that the United
One part of it was so that the United States could continue fighting after
States could continue fighting after life had been wiped out. that you had
life had been wiped out. that you had automated, you know, like the dead hand
automated, you know, like the dead hand that you had automated battle management
that you had automated battle management where, you know, uh, missiles could
where, you know, uh, missiles could continue to be fired even after human
continue to be fired even after human life had been wiped out. That was
life had been wiped out. That was actually explicit in the early, you
actually explicit in the early, you know, vision of AI. And then the other
know, vision of AI. And then the other piece of it is, you know, it's what we
piece of it is, you know, it's what we refer to as generative AI right now. All
refer to as generative AI right now. All the stuff that we see with LLMs, etc.,
the stuff that we see with LLMs, etc., all of that comes out of neural
all of that comes out of neural networks. Neural networks were
networks. Neural networks were originally based on a model of the brain
originally based on a model of the brain called the perceptron. It was a a kind
called the perceptron. It was a a kind of digital or digital analog model of
of digital or digital analog model of the brain that simulated what scientists
the brain that simulated what scientists thought the the neurons did. It was
thought the the neurons did. It was simulating the patterns of you know the
simulating the patterns of you know the the retina. And the original perceptron
the retina. And the original perceptron built in the 1950s was to accelerate
built in the 1950s was to accelerate recognition
recognition and targeting for military purposes and
and targeting for military purposes and that uh genesis and that DNI continues
that uh genesis and that DNI continues to this day. So you saw all the
to this day. So you saw all the accelerated targeting uh done by you
accelerated targeting uh done by you know Palunteer through you know where's
know Palunteer through you know where's daddy and uh uh you know uh lavender
daddy and uh uh you know uh lavender which they used to accelerate the
which they used to accelerate the genocide of the pal Palestinians in
genocide of the pal Palestinians in Gaza. So this application of AI for war
Gaza. So this application of AI for war is very very uh concrete. It's already
is very very uh concrete. It's already happening and it ties into the larger
happening and it ties into the larger model of war which the US has been using
model of war which the US has been using or planning against China which is as I
or planning against China which is as I said you know the 3Ds diffusion
said you know the 3Ds diffusion dispersion uh and uh dispersion
dispersion uh and uh dispersion distribution uh uh which uh Brian has
distribution uh uh which uh Brian has pointed out you can see in the agile
pointed out you can see in the agile combat formations that the Marines are
combat formations that the Marines are rehearsing. Also another dimension is
rehearsing. Also another dimension is disguise. So this dis these disguised
disguise. So this dis these disguised attacks the Lebanon on pager attack you
attacks the Lebanon on pager attack you know the internet of dangerous things
know the internet of dangerous things you know the attack on Russia these are
you know the attack on Russia these are ways of using disguise and another form
ways of using disguise and another form of disguise or subtifuge is subsurface
of disguise or subtifuge is subsurface warfare so using submarines submarines
warfare so using submarines submarines uh will be a long a large part of the
uh will be a long a large part of the war doctrine as well as you know
war doctrine as well as you know diffused dispersed uh and distributed
diffused dispersed uh and distributed long range fires uh and then uh another
long range fires uh and then uh another dimension of the third offset is
dimension of the third offset is autonomy. So having autonomous uh
autonomy. So having autonomous uh fighting platforms that are AI powered.
fighting platforms that are AI powered. This is very very large part of what the
This is very very large part of what the United States is currently trying to
United States is currently trying to develop. They want to see if they can
develop. They want to see if they can use AI to accelerate uh um military
use AI to accelerate uh um military advantage in order to destroy the you
advantage in order to destroy the you know China on the battlefield. And so
know China on the battlefield. And so Palunteer, you know, is one of the key
Palunteer, you know, is one of the key players as is, you know, Palma Lucky and
players as is, you know, Palma Lucky and Oculus and, you know, all of the they're
Oculus and, you know, all of the they're all involved. They're all involved in
all involved. They're all involved in feeding at the trough on this AI enabled
feeding at the trough on this AI enabled war racket uh that they are trying to
war racket uh that they are trying to drum up. And of course, Alex Karp is
drum up. And of course, Alex Karp is especially dangerous. They all are
especially dangerous. They all are because they really all are. And I say
because they really all are. And I say this with all seriousness, they all are
this with all seriousness, they all are insane. But not only are they insane,
insane. But not only are they insane, uh, they don't know what they're doing.
uh, they don't know what they're doing. Alex Karp doesn't have a background in
Alex Karp doesn't have a background in engineering. He he actually has a degree
engineering. He he actually has a degree in classics. So, you know, really this
in classics. So, you know, really this is the kind of ultimate uh white western
is the kind of ultimate uh white western supremacist discipline that is all about
supremacist discipline that is all about maintaining class. That's what classics
maintaining class. That's what classics is about. It's about maintaining you
is about. It's about maintaining you know uh uh privilege and class uh and
know uh uh privilege and class uh and giving markers of it based on you know
giving markers of it based on you know uh you know western you know uh uh uh
uh you know western you know uh uh uh western texts. But anyway, he he really
western texts. But anyway, he he really is a rabid cyophobe who doesn't know
is a rabid cyophobe who doesn't know what he's doing, but is deeply uh
what he's doing, but is deeply uh indoctrinated and has, you know, deeply
indoctrinated and has, you know, deeply inhaled, you know, the anti-China
inhaled, you know, the anti-China hatred. And at the same time he is this
hatred. And at the same time he is this you know I think neurodeiverse
you know I think neurodeiverse uh uh rabid uh militarist and it's
uh uh rabid uh militarist and it's people like Karp and Peter Teal and
people like Karp and Peter Teal and Palma Malaki that are saying that they
Palma Malaki that are saying that they are going to create the killer app that
are going to create the killer app that is going to destroy China and they
is going to destroy China and they believe I mean they say this over and
believe I mean they say this over and over again every day I wake up Palaki
over again every day I wake up Palaki every day I wake up and think about how
every day I wake up and think about how am I going to destroy my enemies and
am I going to destroy my enemies and then you know names China for it. So we
then you know names China for it. So we have uh you know this kind of policy
have uh you know this kind of policy which is driven uh by this infernal
which is driven uh by this infernal fascist um insh of militarized
fascist um insh of militarized corporations and rabid neocons with an
corporations and rabid neocons with an agenda to destroy China and to maintain
agenda to destroy China and to maintain uh white western supremacy hegemony. And
uh white western supremacy hegemony. And I think this is what makes this moment
I think this is what makes this moment so dangerous. And of course, you know,
so dangerous. And of course, you know, they're breaking every single law in the
they're breaking every single law in the book. Uh, you know, just a a sidebar
book. Uh, you know, just a a sidebar comment, if the United States were ever
comment, if the United States were ever to get involved in a war over Taiwan, it
to get involved in a war over Taiwan, it would be considered a war of aggression
would be considered a war of aggression because foreign interference in a civil
because foreign interference in a civil war, which is what this is, uh, is a
war, which is what this is, uh, is a violation uh, of uh, international law.
violation uh, of uh, international law. So the US would be actually engaging in
So the US would be actually engaging in a war of aggression against China and
a war of aggression against China and then you know we'd have all the crises
then you know we'd have all the crises in the UN and international law as well.
in the UN and international law as well. So
So yeah, Brian, um to to this question,
yeah, Brian, um to to this question, what do you see as the importance of to
what do you see as the importance of to the other side of this uh Russia and
the other side of this uh Russia and China's increasing military cooperation,
China's increasing military cooperation, but overall this partnership, the
but overall this partnership, the importance of it uh given that uh there
importance of it uh given that uh there is a a literal agenda from the most
is a a literal agenda from the most powerful forces, the the Palunteer,
powerful forces, the the Palunteer, Peter Teal, Alex Karp, I mean these are
Peter Teal, Alex Karp, I mean these are powerful monopolists who literally
powerful monopolists who literally dictate US foreign policy. There's an
dictate US foreign policy. There's an agenda against both of them and then we
agenda against both of them and then we can throw in Iran there too as the
can throw in Iran there too as the pillars of multipolarity. What do you
pillars of multipolarity. What do you see as the importance of this increasing
see as the importance of this increasing uh cooperation especially among the uh
uh cooperation especially among the uh heads as the US state department and
heads as the US state department and department of defense was see the heads
department of defense was see the heads of the multipolar snake which is Russia
of the multipolar snake which is Russia and China
and China as well they they have to cooperate
as well they they have to cooperate militarily they not only need to
militarily they not only need to demonstrate their own ability to deter
demonstrate their own ability to deter western encroachment and aggression but
western encroachment and aggression but they they have to work together to to
they they have to work together to to amplify this deterrent And
amplify this deterrent And you know again that is necessary. They
you know again that is necessary. They need to do that and the more the the
need to do that and the more the the better. But the problem is there's many
better. But the problem is there's many other areas they definitely need to to
other areas they definitely need to to work on. And uh we we talked about the
work on. And uh we we talked about the the digital Silk Road a little bit
the digital Silk Road a little bit earlier and yes they were building out
earlier and yes they were building out the physical infrastructure 5G and and
the physical infrastructure 5G and and yes we saw the United States very
yes we saw the United States very actively go out against that. But what
actively go out against that. But what they need to do is uh a digital silk
they need to do is uh a digital silk road in terms of of the flow of
road in terms of of the flow of information, social media platforms.
information, social media platforms. Again, the the US is dangerous
Again, the the US is dangerous militarily and economically, but again,
militarily and economically, but again, it's it's absolute most most successful
it's it's absolute most most successful and effective super weapon is its
and effective super weapon is its ability to politically capture targeted
ability to politically capture targeted nations. And if uh just for example,
nations. And if uh just for example, we're we're on YouTube right now and
we're we're on YouTube right now and someone like me, if I want to talk to
someone like me, if I want to talk to people around the world, even if I want
people around the world, even if I want to talk to people in in outside of the
to talk to people in in outside of the West, I still need to use social media
West, I still need to use social media platforms completely controlled by by
platforms completely controlled by by the United States, by Silicon Valley, by
the United States, by Silicon Valley, by these billionaires, by these
these billionaires, by these corporations that are driving US foreign
corporations that are driving US foreign policy. And why why has Russia, China
policy. And why why has Russia, China and other nations in the multipolar
and other nations in the multipolar world allowed this to persist for so
world allowed this to persist for so long? Why they yes they have their own
long? Why they yes they have their own domestic Russia, China, a couple of
domestic Russia, China, a couple of other countries have created their own
other countries have created their own domestic social media platforms for
domestic social media platforms for their people to secure their information
their people to secure their information space but there is nothing that that
space but there is nothing that that binds the multipolar world together.
binds the multipolar world together. something that is out of reach of the
something that is out of reach of the collective west to manipulate and censor
collective west to manipulate and censor the the algorithm. Manipulating the
the the algorithm. Manipulating the algorithm on Facebook, Meta, uh before
algorithm on Facebook, Meta, uh before Twitter, now X, YouTube. that this is
Twitter, now X, YouTube. that this is part of gaining control of people's uh
part of gaining control of people's uh minds, winning them over, shaping their
minds, winning them over, shaping their ideology, shaping what they think their
ideology, shaping what they think their best interests are to the point where
best interests are to the point where they are actually working against their
they are actually working against their their own survival, their own peace,
their own survival, their own peace, stability, and prosperity. And so I I I
stability, and prosperity. And so I I I think yes, it's good that they're
think yes, it's good that they're cooperating militarily and they need to
cooperating militarily and they need to do more of that uh urgently. And I maybe
do more of that uh urgently. And I maybe that's why why they're doing this first
that's why why they're doing this first because it is so urgent. But they also
because it is so urgent. But they also need to work in in these other areas.
need to work in in these other areas. It's so important. And KJ was talking
It's so important. And KJ was talking about AI and how the collective west
about AI and how the collective west wants to leverage AI as a force
wants to leverage AI as a force multiplier. They they again they
multiplier. They they again they understand that on the battlefield uh
understand that on the battlefield uh facetoface with Russia or China or Iran,
facetoface with Russia or China or Iran, they will lose. So they're trying to use
they will lose. So they're trying to use AI to give them an advantage. And they
AI to give them an advantage. And they think in their mind this will enable
think in their mind this will enable them to fight these other nations in the
them to fight these other nations in the same way that the concistadors used uh
same way that the concistadors used uh metal armor and firearms against locals
metal armor and firearms against locals who just had you know they were
who just had you know they were basically shirtless and they had bows
basically shirtless and they had bows and arrows and and spears. This is what
and arrows and and spears. This is what they in their mind they want to create
they in their mind they want to create that sort of military disparity between
that sort of military disparity between themselves and these nations they want
themselves and these nations they want to subordinate subjugate. So we we have
to subordinate subjugate. So we we have to keep a close eye on on all of these
to keep a close eye on on all of these realms, not just the the military
realms, not just the the military battlefields, military production, but
battlefields, military production, but these other areas where maybe it's a bit
these other areas where maybe it's a bit even because yes, China and Russia are
even because yes, China and Russia are working on AI and then in other areas
working on AI and then in other areas like controlling information space where
like controlling information space where the US still holds supremacy.
the US still holds supremacy. Yeah, KJ comment on this because uh one
Yeah, KJ comment on this because uh one of the big issues here is that uh Russia
of the big issues here is that uh Russia and China and the multipolar world of
and China and the multipolar world of course they need that military
course they need that military cooperation is necessary and Russia and
cooperation is necessary and Russia and China and Iran really those are the
China and Iran really those are the three uh pillars of the multipolar world
three uh pillars of the multipolar world that are able to and are engaging in
that are able to and are engaging in increasing that cooperation
increasing that cooperation and and strengthening uh each other. But
and and strengthening uh each other. But on the other hand, u it's difficult to
on the other hand, u it's difficult to compete with a rabid empire that's
compete with a rabid empire that's willing to invest everything into what
willing to invest everything into what Brian is talking about this information
Brian is talking about this information weapon using information as a weapon
weapon using information as a weapon when China, Russia, Iran have to all be
when China, Russia, Iran have to all be in order for them to exist have to be
in order for them to exist have to be attuned to the needs of their own people
attuned to the needs of their own people and then of course the needs of a
and then of course the needs of a multiple world that uh uh might come
multiple world that uh uh might come first as Brian and even reference right
first as Brian and even reference right maybe defense uh uh security and then of
maybe defense uh uh security and then of course economic development which if you
course economic development which if you don't have that um you're not going to
don't have that um you're not going to have much support for it. So KJ, your
have much support for it. So KJ, your your comments on on this situation.
your comments on on this situation. You know, it's a very difficult
You know, it's a very difficult situation. You know, I've said this
situation. You know, I've said this before, but the United States is it's
before, but the United States is it's like somebody in a school shooter mode.
like somebody in a school shooter mode. I mean, the other people, they just want
I mean, the other people, they just want to go about their life, you know, take
to go about their life, you know, take their classes, you know, go about
their classes, you know, go about normally. And the US is in a school
normally. And the US is in a school shooter mode. So, how do you deal with
shooter mode. So, how do you deal with it? You know, do you tackle them? Do you
it? You know, do you tackle them? Do you go after them? Do you hide? Do you
go after them? Do you hide? Do you evade? You know, this is, you know, this
evade? You know, this is, you know, this is the question of our moment, you know,
is the question of our moment, you know, is how do you disarm, how do you diffuse
is how do you disarm, how do you diffuse the school shooter without getting
the school shooter without getting everybody killed? And of course, you
everybody killed? And of course, you know, as we've said before, uh digital
know, as we've said before, uh digital sovereignty is a very very important
sovereignty is a very very important part of it. I I've said that you know
part of it. I I've said that you know what what everybody needs to do is they
what what everybody needs to do is they need to reclaim they need to consider
need to reclaim they need to consider that mental space is a warfighting
that mental space is a warfighting domain and they have to make sure that
domain and they have to make sure that their minds are not occupied because
their minds are not occupied because that is literally what is happening.
that is literally what is happening. They have to reclaim their own minds,
They have to reclaim their own minds, prevent their minds from being colonized
prevent their minds from being colonized and turned into bots for you know the
and turned into bots for you know the propagation of uh uh you know weaponized
propagation of uh uh you know weaponized uh propaganda.
uh propaganda. The US has been doing this for a very
The US has been doing this for a very long time. As I said, US invented
long time. As I said, US invented marketing. It invented public relations.
marketing. It invented public relations. It invented the revival tent and
It invented the revival tent and religious fanaticism uh in you know,
religious fanaticism uh in you know, inside Protestantism. So, it's been
inside Protestantism. So, it's been doing this for a long time. It's very
doing this for a long time. It's very good at this. And you know, even more
good at this. And you know, even more directly, you know, Stanford University
directly, you know, Stanford University has been teaching courses on digital
has been teaching courses on digital coups, how to, you know, coup countries
coups, how to, you know, coup countries through digital means for about 25
through digital means for about 25 years. has been done by a guy called
years. has been done by a guy called Larry Diamond who's one of the leaders
Larry Diamond who's one of the leaders or the Eminos Gre the great cardinal of
or the Eminos Gre the great cardinal of the NE and Amy Goodman gets him on her
the NE and Amy Goodman gets him on her show from you know she gets him on her
show from you know she gets him on her show and she never reveals that this guy
show and she never reveals that this guy is you know uh you know he's the gray
is you know uh you know he's the gray cardinal of the NE but
cardinal of the NE but digital sovereignty uh is key so we have
digital sovereignty uh is key so we have to understand that uh and then the other
to understand that uh and then the other thing that we also can place a little
thing that we also can place a little bit of hope on I and once again uh we
bit of hope on I and once again uh we have to be careful you know you you
have to be careful you know you you can't be too optimistic you can't be too
can't be too optimistic you can't be too pessimistic you have to find that
pessimistic you have to find that goldilock zone you know do not be
goldilock zone you know do not be arrogant you know uh because you know
arrogant you know uh because you know the the one on the right was damned you
the the one on the right was damned you know do not despair the one on the left
know do not despair the one on the left was saved etc so we have to be very we
was saved etc so we have to be very we have to walk a very very fine line but
have to walk a very very fine line but we have to understand that you know
we have to understand that you know currently
currently The empire is eating itself from within.
The empire is eating itself from within. As I said, the four horsemen,
As I said, the four horsemen, de-industrialization,
de-industrialization, uh, financialization, hyper
uh, financialization, hyper financialization. It simply wants to
financialization. It simply wants to claim rents off of everything of which
claim rents off of everything of which Peter Teal is one of these people. He
Peter Teal is one of these people. He knows that the entire system is corrupt
knows that the entire system is corrupt and broken, but he wants to see if he
and broken, but he wants to see if he can uh, you know, grab uh, and loot
can uh, you know, grab uh, and loot while it is still working. So hyper
while it is still working. So hyper financialization
financialization I is is a problem and then we have the
I is is a problem and then we have the problem of deskkilling. Uh the US can no
problem of deskkilling. Uh the US can no longer build things. Not only can it not
longer build things. Not only can it not build things industrially but actually
build things industrially but actually it doesn't really have the capacity to
it doesn't really have the capacity to do meaningful
do meaningful uh cognitive labor anymore. It most of
uh cognitive labor anymore. It most of the cognitive labor is done through
the cognitive labor is done through cognitive uh sweat shops that have been
cognitive uh sweat shops that have been outsourced to you know the global south.
outsourced to you know the global south. And one example of this is most of the
And one example of this is most of the AI researchers are actually Chinese. 50%
AI researchers are actually Chinese. 50% over 50% of the top AI researchers are
over 50% of the top AI researchers are Chinese. Mark Zuckerberg, you know,
Chinese. Mark Zuckerberg, you know, created this AI dream team. I think most
created this AI dream team. I think most of them are Chinese. And so essentially
of them are Chinese. And so essentially uh what this boils down to is if we
uh what this boils down to is if we think of war as being
think of war as being not simply a matter of logistics or
not simply a matter of logistics or industry
industry uh or strategy or tactics but we think
uh or strategy or tactics but we think of it uh a as a kind of a contest of
of it uh a as a kind of a contest of learning curves then the US is way
learning curves then the US is way behind on that learning curve. has you
behind on that learning curve. has you know left every child's behind behind.
know left every child's behind behind. Uh and uh in particular AI itself is
Uh and uh in particular AI itself is simply applied math. People think that
simply applied math. People think that you know AI is something magical. No,
you know AI is something magical. No, it's just math. Computer science is just
it's just math. Computer science is just applied math. And when you have a math
applied math. And when you have a math contest, you know, the US doesn't come
contest, you know, the US doesn't come out ahead because the US leadership is a
out ahead because the US leadership is a leadership led by lawyers. And most
leadership led by lawyers. And most lawyers don't do math. Certainly Peter
lawyers don't do math. Certainly Peter uh you know Alex Karp I don't believe
uh you know Alex Karp I don't believe that he can do you know math worth uh
that he can do you know math worth uh you know anything. So in a math contest
you know anything. So in a math contest when you have the mathematicians
when you have the mathematicians fighting the the lawyers I think the
fighting the the lawyers I think the mathematicians are going to come out
mathematicians are going to come out ahead and we see this with things like
ahead and we see this with things like deepsek where simply they cho took the
deepsek where simply they cho took the uh you know AI algorithms and improved
uh you know AI algorithms and improved them without having to increase compute.
them without having to increase compute. So I think that China will eventually
So I think that China will eventually pull ahead in AI in particular in
pull ahead in AI in particular in embodied AI and that's where the
embodied AI and that's where the industrial capacity also ties into the
industrial capacity also ties into the you know the AI development and the uh
you know the AI development and the uh you know the large language models
you know the large language models because ultimately intelligence is a
because ultimately intelligence is a matter of inhabiting the world and being
matter of inhabiting the world and being able to navigate the world and in order
able to navigate the world and in order to do that you need industrial capacity
to do that you need industrial capacity with industrial robots that have
with industrial robots that have autonomy that can learn in their
autonomy that can learn in their interactions with uh the world around
interactions with uh the world around them that knowledge is considered as
them that knowledge is considered as this entire world and its interactions
this entire world and its interactions and connections and in that sense China
and connections and in that sense China has the advantage whereas the US is just
has the advantage whereas the US is just barely doing its coding and trying to
barely doing its coding and trying to you know run up some kind of advantage
you know run up some kind of advantage with massive amounts of compute and you
with massive amounts of compute and you know advanced chips and even those are
know advanced chips and even those are starting to be overtaken by China. So
starting to be overtaken by China. So ultimately time is on China's side. Time
ultimately time is on China's side. Time is on the side of the global south and
is on the side of the global south and essentially you know we can say that the
essentially you know we can say that the superpower of the global south is
superpower of the global south is patience. So if we can just avoid war
patience. So if we can just avoid war over the next two to five years then I
over the next two to five years then I think the disparities will be so big
think the disparities will be so big that the chances of war will be
that the chances of war will be significantly dis uh diminished. But we
significantly dis uh diminished. But we just have to get through this, you know,
just have to get through this, you know, dark tunnel, this dark night uh of
dark tunnel, this dark night uh of aggression which is very very uh thick
aggression which is very very uh thick and and and dark and uh you know uh
and and and dark and uh you know uh frightening at the current moment.
frightening at the current moment. Yeah. And um in about a minute or le two
Yeah. And um in about a minute or le two minutes or less or so for both of you if
minutes or less or so for both of you if possible um just your final uh analysis
possible um just your final uh analysis on uh how I kind of sum things up to see
on uh how I kind of sum things up to see is that on the one hand you know you
is that on the one hand you know you have um I think the danger that you
have um I think the danger that you bring up Brian uh certainly the US
bring up Brian uh certainly the US empire is not out even if it is uh down
empire is not out even if it is uh down it is it is very dangerous. And I I
it is it is very dangerous. And I I believe its desperation and its decline
believe its desperation and its decline lead it to taking uh risks or escal or
lead it to taking uh risks or escal or moving toward escalations which are u
moving toward escalations which are u going to and already are if Gaza, if
going to and already are if Gaza, if Iran, if Lebanon, if Ukraine, I mean all
Iran, if Lebanon, if Ukraine, I mean all of these wars and conflicts and and with
of these wars and conflicts and and with Gaza genocide, I mean the casualty count
Gaza genocide, I mean the casualty count is just absolutely astonishing. Um and
is just absolutely astonishing. Um and then there are moves for example like uh
then there are moves for example like uh the economic war on China, the tariffs,
the economic war on China, the tariffs, the sanctions on Russia, um the war on
the sanctions on Russia, um the war on bricks that uh Trump is trying to
bricks that uh Trump is trying to engender that have a kind of boomerang
engender that have a kind of boomerang effect. Uh I mean right now Brian uh so
effect. Uh I mean right now Brian uh so I get your comments first. You have
I get your comments first. You have Scott Bessant and not only are they
Scott Bessant and not only are they going after Brazil which is standing
going after Brazil which is standing really defiant and Lula is you know
really defiant and Lula is you know talking like urging the global south to
talking like urging the global south to dump the dollar and to begin to build
dump the dollar and to begin to build that mechanism to do that. Uh they're
that mechanism to do that. Uh they're going after India now which is uh quite
going after India now which is uh quite the strategic blunder in my opinion. But
the strategic blunder in my opinion. But here is what Scott Besson is saying
here is what Scott Besson is saying about negotiations with India
about negotiations with India and also you know India India's been a
and also you know India India's been a large buyer of sanctioned Russian oil
large buyer of sanctioned Russian oil that they then resell as refined
that they then resell as refined products. So uh you know they they have
products. So uh you know they they have not been a great global actor. So, so
not been a great global actor. So, so India is supposed to be uh the proxy for
India is supposed to be uh the proxy for the US against uh China. supposed to do
the US against uh China. supposed to do its bidding and on the foreign policy
its bidding and on the foreign policy realm and uh the Trump administration
realm and uh the Trump administration has been going after essentially anybody
has been going after essentially anybody and everybody um on this and uh
and everybody um on this and uh essentially the the positive I see uh in
essentially the the positive I see uh in this moment is that uh if there is this
this moment is that uh if there is this common vision that I think is needed for
common vision that I think is needed for a bricks in a multipolar world uh uh
a bricks in a multipolar world uh uh certainly the US's own actions could
certainly the US's own actions could help facilitate that. But Brian, your
help facilitate that. But Brian, your final comments and then KJ.
final comments and then KJ. I think KJ made a really good point. He
I think KJ made a really good point. He he's talking about uh the multipolar
he's talking about uh the multipolar world and how time is working in its
world and how time is working in its favor and how patience and the ability
favor and how patience and the ability to avoid a major war that will burn
to avoid a major war that will burn everything down that everyone is working
everything down that everyone is working so hard to build up. That that is that
so hard to build up. That that is that is central. And if and if the multipolar
is central. And if and if the multipolar world can make it through these next
world can make it through these next couple of years, then there will be this
couple of years, then there will be this disparity between the rest of the world
disparity between the rest of the world and and the west and its vision of
and and the west and its vision of reasserting itself. Uh but the problem
reasserting itself. Uh but the problem is the United States right now we we can
is the United States right now we we can see examples of this right now where
see examples of this right now where they just don't care anymore about
they just don't care anymore about pretexts uh an excuse to go to war. They
pretexts uh an excuse to go to war. They were literally negotiating. Iran was
were literally negotiating. Iran was negotiating with the US which they had
negotiating with the US which they had no no reason to negotiate with the US.
no no reason to negotiate with the US. US is not in charge of of global nuclear
US is not in charge of of global nuclear programs, but they were negotiating to
programs, but they were negotiating to avoid a war and the US just attacked
avoid a war and the US just attacked Iran in the middle of negotiations. So
Iran in the middle of negotiations. So they they have become so reckless and
they they have become so reckless and and aggressive and they're they're
and aggressive and they're they're they're doing things on impulse because
they're doing things on impulse because they know they're out of time. But this
they know they're out of time. But this is extremely dangerous. uh that that
is extremely dangerous. uh that that border conflict was engineered by
border conflict was engineered by USbacked political forces on both sides
USbacked political forces on both sides of the border uh here in Thailand and in
of the border uh here in Thailand and in neighboring Cambodia. And then the the
neighboring Cambodia. And then the the trade deal was rammed through on both
trade deal was rammed through on both sides while everybody was distracted by
sides while everybody was distracted by the conflict. Nobody had a chance to
the conflict. Nobody had a chance to debate the US trade uh demands.
debate the US trade uh demands. Basically, not a deal. And nobody had
Basically, not a deal. And nobody had any time to protest it. And if you look
any time to protest it. And if you look at the the concessions that were forced
at the the concessions that were forced on Thailand and Cambodia, uh they're
on Thailand and Cambodia, uh they're putting zero tariffs on US products.
putting zero tariffs on US products. They still get tariffs from from the US.
They still get tariffs from from the US. 19% 20% something like that. And they
19% 20% something like that. And they are being forced to buy LNG. Uh and
are being forced to buy LNG. Uh and they're being forced to buy huge amounts
they're being forced to buy huge amounts of Boeing aircraft that no nobody needs.
of Boeing aircraft that no nobody needs. And and a lot of these countries use
And and a lot of these countries use Airbus. and to switch over to another
Airbus. and to switch over to another airliner is not like switching over to I
airliner is not like switching over to I was drive driving a Kia now I'm driving
was drive driving a Kia now I'm driving an Audi. It's not like that. You have to
an Audi. It's not like that. You have to make huge investments on all of the
make huge investments on all of the things that support that aircraft on the
things that support that aircraft on the ground and in the air. And they also had
ground and in the air. And they also had to make concessions to the US regarding
to make concessions to the US regarding Google and Amazon regarding the the
Google and Amazon regarding the the these digital services and
these digital services and infrastructure that are only going to
infrastructure that are only going to enhance America's control and ability to
enhance America's control and ability to project political control over these
project political control over these targeted nations. So this is a huge
targeted nations. So this is a huge threat. They're going for everything all
threat. They're going for everything all at once. They don't care how it looks.
at once. They don't care how it looks. They picked Trump on purpose because
They picked Trump on purpose because then they can just say, "Well, that was
then they can just say, "Well, that was Trump. We all know he was crazy and
Trump. We all know he was crazy and impulsive. That was him. That had
impulsive. That was him. That had nothing to do with with America, what
nothing to do with with America, what America really stands for. This is what
America really stands for. This is what they do with every presidential
they do with every presidential administration. They flush uh everything
administration. They flush uh everything all all responsibility down the toilet.
all all responsibility down the toilet. Every time there's a new administration,
Every time there's a new administration, everything else gets flushed down with
everything else gets flushed down with the previous administration. This is
the previous administration. This is what they're doing. And they are more
what they're doing. And they are more dangerous and desperate now than ever.
dangerous and desperate now than ever. And people have to look at the the big
And people have to look at the the big picture, not get focused too much on any
picture, not get focused too much on any one conflict. See how they all work
one conflict. See how they all work together and see how all of these
together and see how all of these conflicts work together with with the
conflicts work together with with the tariffs, uh with propaganda, with the
tariffs, uh with propaganda, with the media, with all of these distractions
media, with all of these distractions they they try to to use to divide us. We
they they try to to use to divide us. We have to look at all of it as one single
have to look at all of it as one single push by the US to reassert itself
push by the US to reassert itself globally.
globally. Yeah. KJ, your final comments. Yeah, you
Yeah. KJ, your final comments. Yeah, you know, I've said this before and I hate
know, I've said this before and I hate to keep repeating myself, but you know,
to keep repeating myself, but you know, US is like a drunk at the bar and the
US is like a drunk at the bar and the bar is closing and the drunk needs to go
bar is closing and the drunk needs to go home. You know, the credit cards have
home. You know, the credit cards have been rejected, struck out with everybody
been rejected, struck out with everybody and it's just time to go home, but the
and it's just time to go home, but the drunk doesn't want to go home and they
drunk doesn't want to go home and they want they're they want to fight and
want they're they want to fight and they're willing to fight the entire uh
they're willing to fight the entire uh everybody there. Uh and so this is the
everybody there. Uh and so this is the dangerous piece and what it's also doing
dangerous piece and what it's also doing is it's bullying its sidekicks right
is it's bullying its sidekicks right now. So you can see that even the the
now. So you can see that even the the countries that are the closest to the
countries that are the closest to the United States are getting really really
United States are getting really really raw deals because the US decides that it
raw deals because the US decides that it can twist uh its uh you know quote
can twist uh its uh you know quote unquote allies or its vassels the most.
unquote allies or its vassels the most. And so, you know, it's that situation
And so, you know, it's that situation where the bully after having bullied
where the bully after having bullied everybody but no longer capable of, you
everybody but no longer capable of, you know, bullying other people decides to
know, bullying other people decides to bully their own psychics. The the best
bully their own psychics. The the best example, as you just pointed out, is
example, as you just pointed out, is India. You know, uh I've been doing
India. You know, uh I've been doing journalism for a long time. We used to
journalism for a long time. We used to call uh the we used to call it the
call uh the we used to call it the Asia-Pacific. That was my beat was the
Asia-Pacific. That was my beat was the Asia-Pacific. And then sometime around
Asia-Pacific. And then sometime around the Biden administration, it became the
the Biden administration, it became the Indo-Pacific, which is a kind of
Indo-Pacific, which is a kind of nonsense term. I mean, it's a it's a
nonsense term. I mean, it's a it's a 19th century Bismarian colonial term.
19th century Bismarian colonial term. But the reason why they used the started
But the reason why they used the started using the term Indo-Pacific as well as
using the term Indo-Pacific as well as the Indo-Pacific strategy, which is
the Indo-Pacific strategy, which is really another rebranded pivot to Asia,
really another rebranded pivot to Asia, is that they wanted India to be the left
is that they wanted India to be the left tackle in this uh rising Pacific war.
tackle in this uh rising Pacific war. you know, Japan, Korea are the right
you know, Japan, Korea are the right tackle, India is the left tackle. And in
tackle, India is the left tackle. And in order to, you know, make this very, very
order to, you know, make this very, very clear, we're going to call it the
clear, we're going to call it the Indo-Pacific and we're going to have an
Indo-Pacific and we're going to have an Indo-Pacific strategy. Well, that didn't
Indo-Pacific strategy. Well, that didn't turn out so well because, you know,
turn out so well because, you know, India is a big country and it has a kind
India is a big country and it has a kind of, you know, dual alliance. It's very
of, you know, dual alliance. It's very close to Russia. When the war in Ukraine
close to Russia. When the war in Ukraine broke out, you know, India decided it
broke out, you know, India decided it was going to continue relations with
was going to continue relations with Russia. was not going to uh sanction
Russia. was not going to uh sanction Russia and then this put it in the
Russia and then this put it in the doghouse and so now it is you know being
doghouse and so now it is you know being thrashed uh and so you know the original
thrashed uh and so you know the original notion of the quad which was Australia,
notion of the quad which was Australia, Japan, India and the US that has you
Japan, India and the US that has you know nobody's talking so much about that
know nobody's talking so much about that anyway so they want to see if they can
anyway so they want to see if they can thrash India and continue the beatings
thrash India and continue the beatings until the morale improves until the you
until the morale improves until the you know imperial vessel uh mentality
know imperial vessel uh mentality improves. moves. But uh once again, you
improves. moves. But uh once again, you know, the empire is imploding. You know,
know, the empire is imploding. You know, the drunk is picking fights everywhere
the drunk is picking fights everywhere and they're also sending the message
and they're also sending the message that anything goes. We can, you know, we
that anything goes. We can, you know, we are crazy. We can do anything. That's
are crazy. We can do anything. That's the message really of Gaza that there's
the message really of Gaza that there's no limits to our depravity and violence.
no limits to our depravity and violence. And so, you know, once again, we have to
And so, you know, once again, we have to come back to what can we do? We have to
come back to what can we do? We have to see if we can deescalate. We have to see
see if we can deescalate. We have to see if we can get the drunk to calm down. go
if we can get the drunk to calm down. go home, go to sleep. And in the meantime,
home, go to sleep. And in the meantime, we also have to make sure that we are
we also have to make sure that we are not being captured as vectors of
not being captured as vectors of propaganda for this incredibly
propaganda for this incredibly uh violent but absurd uh information war
uh violent but absurd uh information war that is being waged right now. Just
that is being waged right now. Just remember, the farther we are from truth,
remember, the farther we are from truth, the closer we are to war. Uh those who
the closer we are to war. Uh those who tell you absurdities are preparing you
tell you absurdities are preparing you for atrocities.
for atrocities. Yeah. And I'll just close on this. I
Yeah. And I'll just close on this. I want to thank all the uh super chats by
want to thank all the uh super chats by the way and and comments here, super
the way and and comments here, super stickers and and thanks Tom for being a
stickers and and thanks Tom for being a member for so long um and for going to
member for so long um and for going to China. That's going to be great. Um I
China. That's going to be great. Um I want to just say that um you know when
want to just say that um you know when it comes to the multipolar I've been
it comes to the multipolar I've been seeing this commentary more and more so
seeing this commentary more and more so and it's important you know and it's
and it's important you know and it's definitely important to be critical. I
definitely important to be critical. I do want to emphasize though the
do want to emphasize though the responsibilities uh that you just
responsibilities uh that you just outlined KJ when it comes to seeing and
outlined KJ when it comes to seeing and and learning and and being uh committed
and learning and and being uh committed to the truth especially in the
to the truth especially in the collective west that uh the
collective west that uh the responsibilities uh and I think that's
responsibilities uh and I think that's why I appreciate you so much Brian for
why I appreciate you so much Brian for talking about the dangers of the US
talking about the dangers of the US empire because it's our responsibility
empire because it's our responsibility in the collective west in the United
in the collective west in the United States wherever we are to not only speak
States wherever we are to not only speak out about it but to then stop it like if
out about it but to then stop it like if we want to see things like multipolarity
we want to see things like multipolarity um flourish ish if we want to see uh
um flourish ish if we want to see uh Russia, China, Iran not be belleaguered
Russia, China, Iran not be belleaguered and embattled in constant endless wars,
and embattled in constant endless wars, they can't necessarily control that.
they can't necessarily control that. They're not going to they're not they're
They're not going to they're not they're not seeking to overthrow the Washington
not seeking to overthrow the Washington uh you know establishment. That's that's
uh you know establishment. That's that's just not how reality works. uh the
just not how reality works. uh the United States, people here, people in
United States, people here, people in the west, uh they have to be the ones
the west, uh they have to be the ones committed to their own process of
committed to their own process of political development so that and you
political development so that and you know and put action to the truth that
know and put action to the truth that they are awoken to so that you know so
they are awoken to so that you know so that we don't have to deal with
that we don't have to deal with genocides in Gaza, regional wars,
genocides in Gaza, regional wars, nuclear war, all of this that we talk
nuclear war, all of this that we talk about here. it is to impart that
about here. it is to impart that responsibility on uh those who have the
responsibility on uh those who have the most of it. So with all that said
most of it. So with all that said everybody, this was a great
everybody, this was a great conversation. I'll be back again this
conversation. I'll be back again this week, probably a couple times actually
week, probably a couple times actually as we enter the week. Thanks for joining
as we enter the week. Thanks for joining on a Sunday. It is early Monday morning
on a Sunday. It is early Monday morning for Brian and it is late Sunday evening
for Brian and it is late Sunday evening for both KJ and I. So we are going to
for both KJ and I. So we are going to head out of here together. Hit the like
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and so much more. Until we meet again next time everybody, have a good one.
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