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You said to me, "The key to breaking

this brick isn't strength necessarily.

It's the ability to really, really

focus." So, can you show me you smashing

Master Shaw Hungi is the world's most

hardcore monk. He uses his decades of

knowledge and techniques to help people

control their minds and overcome

society's biggest problems. This world

is filled with so much choice that it's

difficult to take a decision which

direction to go. what is right to do.

And so there is a lot of suffering with

the skills that you are developing

through kung fu training involves

methods and practices that give you the

ability to do this. But there are five

hindrances that make it difficult for

you to still keep your goal in the mind.

There is sensory desires, ill will,

dullness, restlessness, and then

self-doubt. And to overcome the five

hindrances, you recommend the four-step

rain method. Yes. And with this, I make

it super simple.

So many of us live in the same cycles of

unhappiness and suffering. I I witnessed

it in my life as well because I felt I

was never enough. My father and mother

put a lot of pressure in terms of you

need to prove yourself and so I did all

these type of practices and methods that

made it possible to be where I am right

now. I wanted the recognition by my

father but it didn't happen because your

father passed away from cancer. Yeah. [Music]

How does one let go of that and

therefore break the pattern? I will show

you some practices. Number one,

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Master Sha

Hung, based on everything that's

happening in the world right now and the

work that you've committed your life to,

what is the mission that you are on and

why is it so important right now?

I do think that in this

world there have always been different

streams, different forces.

One of them leading to the betterment of

humanity, one of them leading to the

destruction of humanity. And I do think

that there are types of wisdom and

knowledge existing out there that very

easily without any

additional help for anything

else can be very useful for the people

nowadays. Yeah, you don't need to go

anywhere. The only thing you need to do

is take a moment, contemplate about

yourself, go into

yourself and find the answers there and

then decide for yourself which part and

what type of contribution would you like

to give to the world that you're living

in. I ultimately think this is what I'm

doing. And what is it that you see

people struggling with? because so many

people write to you, they they send

messages to you, they come and see you.

What is it that you hear they're

struggling with at a fundamental level?

I would say it's diversity and choice.

This world is filled with so much choice

meanwhile that it's difficult in a way

to take a decision which direction to

go, what is right to do, what is not

right to do. But ultimately, it's only

yourself who knows the answer. Which

means it comes to the essential

point. Learn more about yourself. This

is where it starts because if you have

the wrong perspective of who you are,

what you are, everything else in this

lifetime you base your decisions on is

just not not going to

be placed in the right direction.

And what are the the other things that

you hear people suffering with on a

daily basis in the modern world with the

way that the world is now? It's

digitalized. We're lonier than ever.

Mental health seems to be surging. What

are the like fundamental things they say

to you or that that you in infer through

what they're saying that they are

actually struggling with? So choice

overload of choice and an inability to

make a clear decision is number one.

So being perfectly honest, I usually do

not very much rely on what the people

tell me, what they

think, what problem they have. It's just

that I look and I can see already what I

think you need. And foremost one of

these and it's very

simple non-religious nothing about

believing it simply is the fact you

don't use your body as it is intended to

be very

simple. Yeah. You we you you sit many

people sit too much during the day. The

body is not active at all. A lot of work

a lot of energy investment is done with

the mind.

less energy investment is done really

with the body and that simply means for

me I can see there's a

disbalance whoever created us he did not

create us to sit with our butt on one

place and do thinking work the whole

time I do think a part of why we have

been created is to get out on the field

and just do something out there and what

is the cost

of not utilizing our body in the way

that it was meant to be utilized.

Unbalanced energies that can translate

into anxiety, that can translate into

dissatisfaction, that can translate into

satisfied. And the most common thing, not

not

realizing how precious the moments are

that you

have. And instead of replacing them with

illusions and dreams and assumptions

which are just not

real meaning everybody is not even

Buddhist, it's not Shaolin. It is common

understanding. We don't know if we wake

up tomorrow. It is like this. Yeah. But

our plans go. We have five years plans,

10 years plans. We have short-term,

midterm plans. Yeah. The truth is we

don't know if we wake up

tomorrow. So of course I don't want to

make it like in sound negative. So just

live in the present moment without

planning. This is not what I'm saying.

But this is the challenge nowadays. How

vision with

reality. Real the only thing real right

now is this. That's real for us. I can

feel it. You can hear it. You can sense

it. This is real. you nearly broke my

table and I was concerned because um

later on you will

be proving to me that you can break this

brick using your your mind and the

physical um preparation that you've done

which I find really really interesting

cuz I tried to smash this brick on the

floor and I couldn't. So all of the

things you talk about understanding

one's physical mind and and mastering it

but also understanding one's physical

body will find out if you can smash

through this brick. But on this point, I

I wanted to talk about an adjacent

subject, which is really like purpose,

what to do with one's life. And if we're

spending a little bit too much time

thinking off into the future um and not

enough time thinking in the present

moment, I'm wondering how purpose and

having a having a big dream for one's

life fits into this equation and if we

should have a purpose and if so, how do

we find our purpose?

So absolutely there is the field of

becoming conscious. Consciousness is a

big field. Then we have science is is

another very very big field. So some say

okay is it that consciousness creates

matter or is it the other way around?

Which one is which one is the

fundamental basis? What is the basis of

our interaction? So the truth is the

fact right now is regardless of science

no science how our evolution developed

right now we are here your body my body

we are

here this is what we are having right

now at the same time in the way of how

this lifestyle at the moment is we won't

have more than 50 more years to go in that

that

body so very simple

without believing living without any

religious aspect. Once again, the truth

is the lifetime of what you carry right

now and what I carry right now, it's

limited. And now just imagine you would

be let's say the director of your own

movie. Jump out of the body and watch

yourself right now. You are sitting like

with Shi. We sit on the same table and

you are writing your story.

How do you want to write the story? You

want to afterwards, after this podcast,

you want to like feel

uncomfortable, feel unsafe, feel

unloved, feel like being just

unsatisfied with the whole life, cry or

anything like this or how do you imagine

what is a a a really nice way of living

for you the next 50 years. So and based on

that purpose can be

different. You say I do like the travel.

I I do like to invest this lifetime in

this body to have the feeling at least

that I can contribute something to all

the fellow um brothers and sisters that

are around there. It makes me like I

wake up I like to do it. It gives me

purpose. So it is something very very personal.

personal.

And which also means that in a way

speaking in in these terms right now I

do not believe that every human being

has the same purpose when it comes to

this type of

purpose but now there's another type of

purpose which is more or less personally

for me why do I

think that in the first place we have

been put with all these

possibilities and

uh positively said I do think it is a

blessing being able to just

experience. It's a blessing that we have

simply experiencing what this existence

is capable of creating. including

everything, including the joy, including

the happiness, including the tears,

including the heartbreaks, all of this

without the separation. Whether you

prefer one area or

not, the one sometimes the one goes with the

the

other. But the purpose in a way is just

be and

experience. The only thing that happens

and which is a big part nowadays is if you

you

take your current existence too

serious. If you completely base your

identity, your

being on what you think you

are. But like I said, it's just a

picture right now. Yes. But just

sometimes make it very simple. jump out

of yourself and be the director. Be the

director of this

avatar and then it just opens another

perspective because in that moment you

just realize it's like a movie.

Not everything is always

positive but in the moment where there

are times of struggle

still not being caught inside your own creation

creation identity

identity

identity illusion of the self different

expressions for that it's a very helpful

way of thinking let's put it like this

because there are so many people that

say they are struggling to find meaning

in their life or they feel

purposelessness And you know, I get so

many messages from people all over the

world saying that they um they're saying

things like, "Is this it? Is this all my

life is?"

So, this is

literally also one one point that you

just mentioned is that it isn't there

more. That has always been a part that

followed me along the way. Yeah.

Especially now in the last three four

years after social media the algorithm

of social media really started also

pushing pushing us quite out

there. More requests were coming of

doing workshops, of doing podcasts, of

teaching here, of teaching there, of

making television show, of participating

in movies. And of course all together

with this doors start to open, different

things start to come in. But at some

point I just couldn't believe that this

is supposed to be the

purpose because it all still had to do

like had to do with

doing the constant

doing. Yeah. And there I felt in my life

now looking at this this couldn't be it.

So I I look for alternatives always and

always again especially feeling that

along the way of what you would say

achieving something being recognized at

something. Yeah. But the there's a

there's another side that goes hand in

hand with it that the public doesn't

see. There were times I could simply be

surrounded with like thousands thousands

of people but still feel

lonely. is not what you're surrounded

with, it's with what you are

connected. Yeah. And there I felt like

there is always again this type of

force. What is it that drives you

on? Going outwards, going outwards,

going outwards, you lose

yourself. But this self is the only

thing that can give you connection in

this life. And what do you need to be

connected to then? You talked about

being surrounded by thousands and being

lonely and it's really about what you're

connected to. What does one need to be

connected to?

Maybe before I answer you this question,

there's one thing I maybe want to like

mention beforehand. So when I went to

elementary school and also during my

school time, I actually for example

joined Christian Christian lesson. Yeah.

So by my parents I grew up with Buddhist

tradition let's say from the martial art

training I also got introduced into

so-called Zen

Buddhism because my father always told

me look son we are here in a foreign

country you're a foreigner it's always

better to have friends than to have

enemies that's why I made always friends

with everyone meaning I had a lot of

Russian friends I had a lot of Arab

Arabic friends. I had a lot of Turkish friends.

friends.

Multicultural also meaning at some point

I also got like introduced into

Islam. Bottom line

is taking all of this knowledge from the

past into my

mind. No matter from which angle I'm

watching right

believe that we all have a source.

There is a

source. So whether you call that source

is the

universe, whether you call the source it

is the God, whether this source is is

the the the infinite energy, I don't

know. There's so many different

expressions to

it. But when I look at all these

teachings, all are always pointing at

one and the same thing.

Let's just take the expression of yin

and yang. Yes, the symbol everybody

knows in the world. And there is that

nice saying yin and yang have a

mother. The mother sometimes simply

being illustrated as one

circle. So yin and yang as the

expression from duality, polarity,

existence of number two. Yeah. Where do

the two come from? They must come from one.

one.

So simple like in our way you are there

I am here one two where do we come from

there must be something that we have as

a common

denominator and this source is the only

thing that can connect

us because it's not your family it's not

my family they're still different that

is not

enough going just looking at we are

humans animals

name. Whatever and whoever gave us the

possibility to be here is the same who

gave you the permission is the same who

gave me the permission and the blessing.

And this is what I think this is the

level of mind. This is the level of

connection that never leaves you

lonely. This this is the one that I that

I mean being connected to the source.

Yes. Now, for someone that is listening

to this and is confused at this juncture

and they're asking themselves, what is

that source? You've described it in in

many potential ways, but it's the my

attempt at describing it is it is

ultimately where we came from. That is

that is the source. Is there a better

way of describing it for people that

might be unfamiliar with the concept?

First of all, I cannot speak without it

and it would make sense to everyone.

That's already the first very very

difficult part. That's why my intention

is never to say what is it. The only

thing I can do is to to like give

pointers. But ultimately there's only

one person who will be able to find it

out and it's not me finding it out for somebody

somebody

else. Everybody will find out for

himself or herself. So every human

being I do think is at a different level

of his um of his growth of his

development and everybody gets what he

needs exactly in the moment where he is

in which is why I think everybody at

this moment in time is exactly where he

needs to be for the next elevation to

take place. The only thing you need to

do is look at yourself right now and

just find out what is

it that makes you

unhappy. What exactly is it that at this

moment in your life is binding

you and restricting you from moving on?

And this is the same question for

everyone. But the what you ultimately

need to tackle is different. In the

past, I sometimes played Super Mario and

Luigi. And it's the same. If you don't

like manage level number one, you won't

see level number two. The challenges

from number two won't come. The end boss

from number two is not going to come.

First, you finish level one. But once

number one is finished, you won't face

the same stuff

anymore. And there is something along

this line where it sometimes is like a

game at the same time.

Don't take it so serious helps.

On that point of we're all struggling

with something based on the levels we're

at. If you had to try and

summarize what the common answer is to

what people are struggling with, what do

you think that might be? I was thinking

about my um my best friends cuz

sometimes it's easier to step outside of

oneselves and look at others and I was

reflecting on the conversations I've had

with them over the last couple of weeks

about things they're struggling with.

And I would define a lot of it as

wanting. So wanting to improve their

businesses, wanting to improve maybe

their romantic situations and find love.

I would say the essence of it, the

suffering seems to be striving for

something that they're unable to grab.

Um, but I wondered if you had a

different perspective on that. Two

things that right now would come to my mind.

There is always the struggle between

being. I would ask why are you doing? So

why why do you want to go into action?

Mostly there is a

goal. The goal why do you have that

goal? because you're aiming at receiving

something that in the moment where you

where you have it apparently you are

lacking. So that means this type of goal

setting in in my perspective I would

automatically refer to it already that

your goal setting already comes from a

space of

lack. You feel like you're lacking

something. That's why you need to do you

feel like you're lacking something

that's why you need to educate yourself

that okay so this is the one

direction now coming back maybe sounds

again too

philosophical connected with the

source there's nothing to add and

there's nothing to take away from

you so apparently when somebody has this

very very high ambition of doing

something, achieving

something, then most likely the chances

are there. This is not coming from a

connection to the

source. It is coming from the idea of

wanting to nourish or create an

identity. An

identity that represents something that

you think you want to

represent. Yeah. So this is the one area

the doing versus the being. And then the

second thing is that ultimately goes

hand in

hand with this way of living your life

is that you for that that one thing is

line. The truth

of that whoever and whatever you are

creating and are intending to create and

are intending to gather now and and

starting to um to attain

things your attainment maximum it's

going to last 100

years. That is the other truth. So,

So,

and I do believe people understand

exactly what I

again. The fight between

Yes. between this very strong identity

that wants to just maintain

itself and the other side of just forget

about your

identity. Be as you are. That's it.

No matter what you're going to attain,

you have it for 100 years afterward is

gone. So just be don't stress yourself

too much with what you don't

have. Well,

unfortunately, and this is always going

to continue like this. Unfortunately,

there are always three ways how you

going to learn this.

Sometimes people just need to have the

experience to realize okay I did it I

got it now I realize I don't need it but

in the first place you need to have it.

First way of

learning second way of learning you do

trust a certain teacher you do trust a

certain guide or a

mentor you just copy the way how he's

living his life. So your approach is you

just copy because you see oh apparently

the person lives a good life. So you

just copy. Second way of learning. And

the third way of learning is you maybe

have like a teacher or a master. He

tells you some wise words. You

contemplate about it. You think about it

and because you were thinking about it,

it already puts you on the alternative

path without you needing to try it for

yourself. So, and there will always be

categories because you know simply said

telling somebody look don't don't put

your hand in the

fire. They're still going to do it but

later is when they do it like two times

three times then it's done. But a lot of

people never get the thing that they're

pursuing. So, you know, someone might

say I want to be a millionaire or I want

to have a this Lamborghini sports car.

The majority of people who aspire to

that statistically won't ever reach it.

So they'll spend their whole life just

in pursuit. They'll never get the lesson

of path one where you try it and you realize

realize

that. So but maybe that is also already

life. You have this goal in the mind.

you you put all your energy, all your

effort into trying to achieve that.

You're 20 years old, you're trying.

You're 30 years old, you're trying. 40

years already, you're still trying. 50

years, you still haven't let go of the idea.

idea.

Well, at some point

hopefully you see exactly

exactly

that that senseless approach of how you

personally already wasted 30 years of

following a goal with the conclusion of

two things. Number one, you haven't

achieved it yet or number two, you

didn't had the right way of achieving

it. But the bottom line is you have two

ways now. What to do? let go of the idea

that you need it and and redirect your life

life

or redirect your

approach of how you still want to

achieve that goal if you don't want to

let go of it. But apparently one of

these two things is is not right.

And the more you want your life now,

let's say in the future to be quite

different than what you're used to, the

more you need to be able to let

go. Let go of patterns. Let go of the

way of thoughts that you had in the in

the last years and months. Now, if

nothing changes about that, there will

not come a new life.

So many of us live in patterns, the same

cycles, and we we end up getting the

same results and those results result in

unhappiness and suffering. And I was

speaking to a friend over the weekend

about how one of our other friends has

lived in a bit of a pattern and they've

been able to unable to find love and

companionship because of some things

that happened when they were younger. I

think they were bullied. So they have

this sort of deeper sense of having to

prove themselves and insecurity. And

this shows up all the time because when

they meet someone, they present a facade

which might not necessarily be accurate.

And then very quickly the relationship

ends because it was never real in the

first place. But this person's now aware

of it, but it's still happening over and

over again. They're still living out the

same pattern in their life and still

getting the same results and

dissatisfaction. So when we think about

trauma at an early age that results in

this sort of cyclical pattern of getting

same behavior, same results. I wondered

if you had a perspective on how one can

let go of that and therefore break the

I was a four fouryear-old

boy having father and

mother Asian

origin being refugees from Vietnam Laos meaning

meaning

they they ran away from the

war coming to Europe coming to Germany

with the idea that for the children to

have a better security on the one side

feeling more safe in Germany without the

instability that they witness in their

own country. And so of course father and

mother with this

idea put a lot of pressure in early ages

already in terms of you need to be good

at school, you need to achieve, yeah,

you need to prove yourself. So this is

the education from father and mother. At

the same time, with the age of four, I

went into a Shaolin kung fu school

learning martial arts. And every martial

artist practitioner probably knows

teachers and masters usually are not the

ones telling you, "Oh, yes, you did that

very good. Yes, very well." No, they

they just say, "Okay, more, deeper,

faster, harder." So bottom line is from

the age of four growing up the only

thing that in the way I felt was

actually you're never

enough. No matter what I brought home in

terms of grades if it was a B why was it

not A? If it was a A why is it not A+?

If I did already 100 push-ups question

is why don't you make 150? Yeah. If I

was fast already it was still not fast

enough. So constantly this type of never

enough. Okay. Ultimately meaning and

this is all now I can just tell you 40

years later but now I can see it.

Ultimately meaning that at some point

this little boy started simply to build

up a shield. Build up such a shield to

be less dependent anymore on what other

people think about me.

Meaning I just started to rely

everything in my life purely on what I

think at the same time building up

emotional blockages and emotional walls

nothing to penetrate and at the same

time also nothing to express to the outside.

outside.

So now having entered into like a very

new circumstance in my life where I need

to take into consideration the opinion

and the emotional state yeah of my

beloved of my partner of my

son. I can feel how my old patterns

sometimes are still trying to sneak in.

And so the only thing to do is what to

do to break patterns. Number one, you

need to see you have one. And number

two, you need to replace old patterns,

which ultimately mean patterns. It's

habitual behavior. It's it's habits. How

do you build habits by

continuous behavioral patterns that you

continuously do? So there is something

about consistency and continuity that

ultimately builds a pattern.

So and this is now where for example in

this field of martial arts that's

exactly what it's

about consistency of having a training

regimen every

day. This is yeah it's not helpful to

like six days per week do nothing and

then you go one day to the gym and and

give your everything. No, it's better

you have some type of consistency

throughout the whole day. This is what

builds patterns, healthy

patterns. Yeah. And so similar like this

I would describe now what is somebody

supposed to do? Number one, look at

yourself and see yourself. We are all not

not

perfect, but according to the

circumstances that you are facing right now

now

today, what type of character do you

think with what do you want to equip your

your

character that he is able to go through

this current times in the best possible

manner? What is not useful for you

anymore, try to get rid of it. and get

your new skills in and then train those

and then train of course those new

patterns. We don't often think about

training some of the virtues that we

want to acquire and the patterns we want

to have. We we kind of think that we

have to select them and then we'll do

our best to live them. But the idea that

I might have to

train certain new behaviors is a really

compelling one because you're right, in

the context of any physical development,

I have to go to the gym and I have to do

my repetitions to build that thing, that

strength. But I um was just thinking

about creating a training regimen for

for certain behaviors

um and new patterns that I want in my

life and trying to make sure I do them

every day, which is not something that

I've I've ever considered. Three months

ago, you became a dad to a young boy to

a young son. Yes. Um, so you're now in

the process of raising a man yourself.

And there's a lot of dialogue at the

moment in the UK, but also just broadly

in the Western world around what it is

to be a man and how to to raise men. I

think much of this dialogue has been

sparked by some shocking statistics that

show young men are struggling now more

than ever in various ways. Um, I think

the single biggest killer of men under

the age of 45 is themselves. And also

there's just an overarching sense of I

think purposeless meaninglessness that

they're struggling in school more so

than women are. Some forecasts predict

that for every two women that graduate

university or college only one man will

graduate um in the near future. And it's

pretty it's pretty shocking. So when I

think about the way that you're intent

on raising your young your young man,

but also what it is that young men in

particular are missing in their lives, I

wondered if you had had an answer from this

this

moment. There's one thing I can tell by

myself what I would absolutely prevent

when it would come, let's say, to the

education or what I share with my son.

Like I said, I felt I was never enough.

There was always something that

additionally needed to be done. So,

which literally means for me for my son

there is nothing to be done. There is

achieve. If there if there would be

something it is stay

connected. So in terms

of I don't see myself as somebody who is

now having the responsibility to shape

my son. No, I only provide the

framework. I try to provide the most

safe framework for my son. He can try

out whatever he wants. If he fails, he

will learn by himself to get up again

and keep trying. So you know to fail and

then to

continue. I just want to build up this

framework as good as I can to make him

feel safe. Yeah. But trial and error is

what I do believe is the way how you find

find

yourself. So definitely not being

spoiled but at the same time also not

like keeping something away from him

where where I make him feel like he's

not enough. So ultimately I do think in

the modern way of how to express it in

all these attachment theories very

simple of course it's the secure the

secure way of being a

stable own selfmade self-sufficient

self-sufficient

individual who knows his own value. Why?

Because he failed and got up. Why do you

struggling?

No. Whatever shows up right now at at

this moment. Yeah.

2025. It didn't start in 2025.

Whatever appears right now sometimes

it's the result of how things have been

handled, how the education has been from

previous years, whether it's the last 10

years, whether it's the last 20 years.

So it's not necessarily what did the

generation right now do did wrong, let's

say. No, it's also the question of what

did the previous generation missed to

keep passing on that ultimately led to

the result that we have nowadays. So,

and this is the question

where where I do think it's multi-layered.

multi-layered.

You gave a a TED talk in 2020 almost 5

years ago now about the five hindrances

What are the five hindrances? You

describe them as five mental states that

are holding us back. Let's put the context

first. Take it simple. Just you have a

goal setting. You set yourself whatever

goal it is, you have your

goal. So your mind is set on the goal.

Normally the five hindrances now simply

describe there are five mental states

that would actually make it difficult

for you to still keep your goal in the

mind whatever goal that is. So the number

number

one for example is called sensual desire.

desire.

Sensual desire means you are too

receptive for any type of pleasurable

feeling in regards to your five

senses. You're being too quickly attract

when you see something

beautiful. You're too quickly attract if

you smell something

tasty. You're too quickly distracted

when like you have like physical touch.

Yeah. So the first hindrance means you

you're losing the goal already because

in the moment something pleasurable is

being presented to you. Your your mind

has shifted

already. So that means that first mental

state only means look be aware of what

is it that you are very easily attracted

to. It doesn't say it's bad. It doesn't

say it's good. It just says in the

context of you want to reach your goal,

how to reach the goal the quickest, be

focused with your energy. Meaning be

focused with the mind. Don't lose the

goal from the mind. Whatever you do from

the moment of waking up until the

evening, whatever you do, keep the goal

in the mind. This is the quickest way of

making this goal become real. Number

two, simply said, you don't like

discomfort. You you don't like

challenges. You don't like

hardship. In that TEDex talk, I

described it like you're like walking

along the path and then suddenly it

starts to rain, but you don't like rain.

So instead of you just continue follow

the path, you are starting to make your

mind busy about what you don't like.

Yeah. And already that means the mind

starts to shift again losing the focus

of the goal. So this

idea num hindrance number one, hindrance

number two, actually you can easily say

it like

this. This is the goal. Two things not to

do. Spend your time

enjoying. Don't do this.

Or spend your time

rejecting that things are not the way

how you imagine them to

be. Both of these things, one is you

follow pleasure and the other thing

you're rejecting any challenges. Both of

these things is something to be aware of

when it comes to stay focused along the

path. When we think about this first

hindrance of sensual desire, is this

where discipline comes into play? The

idea of discipline because that word is

often used, but it's often lacking a

clear definition, but also a clear

understanding of how one attains and

exhibits discipline. Because when I

think about the things that require me

to have discipline, it is these desires.

It is the five gates. It is something I

want to eat. It is maybe um some kind of

touch that I want to have etc etc. So is

this where discipline is important?

No. Even for example like in the book or

even now when we talk about we have the

five hindrances, we have the 14 virtues,

we have the eight rules, we have the

Okay, it's a very good guideline because

it makes it easy for us humans to have

something like really structured. There

are there are four steps there are six

steps there are five steps

whatsoever what I want to say

is just in this way it's also that only

discipline wouldn't be helpful if in the

first place you do not possess the ability

ability

to see

it to realize it to be aware of

Meaning you have discipline but you are

never aware actually when is the moment

actually appearing right now that this

sensory desire is hitting in. You're not

aware of it. So the discipline wouldn't

help you if you don't have this

awareness. So always meaning I do think

that there are

different different qualities of the

mind that come into play for you

to to adjust yourself properly. I was

thinking about my friend when you

mentioned awareness there the friend I

described earlier who exhibits the same

pattern and although they might be aware

of the pattern they might say you know I

have this pattern I don't believe

they're aware

of the moment where that pattern begins

like this the singular trigger which

sends them in that in that loop so I was

and I was thinking the same about myself

I was like there's some behaviors that I

have that I don't like and although I'm

aware of them In the moment when it

happens, I might not be conscious that

it's the pattern has begun that the

someone has said something, something

has happened and then you go on that

pattern or you reach into the

refrigerator at 1:00 a.m. in the morning

and grab the thing or you end up being

triggered by something. So I wondered if

there's a practice at all to become

increase our awareness of the trigger moment.

moment. Yes.

Yes.

This is for example where I very much

appreciate so many different teachings

that are meanwhile existing freely

available for example through the social

media including breath work including yoga

yoga

practices all of them if you have a proper

proper

teacher I'm very sure that this is

exactly what is starting to raise your

awareness for something that in this

field when you are spending some time we

refer to as energy. If you're not aware

of your

own inner layer, let's say like

this, and somebody insults you, it can

happen that like somebody so somebody

insulted me and then I just started

exploding. Yeah. But the fact is before

something explodes, before I

explode, first of all, something must be

lit already. the the the small little

flame already must have been lit. So

when I already knew who is it that I'm

going to

meet maybe that already knowing hearing

the name from him already was

ah was already the starting point of a

potential explosion to happen. Yeah. So

then ah this was where when this little

flame already started being there and

then you literally can feel things like

this. You can feel when something is has

been injected, let's say, into you when

something starts to arise because when

the fire is already too big, when the

whole house is burning, you're not going

to you're not going to [Music]

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um put down that fire in any way. You

can only put down all of these fires

before things come too big. meaning we

must find a way to be directly grabbing

the root, grabbing the core or grabbing

the source of the

explosion. And the only way that I know

is you need to become more sensitive for

everything that goes on in your

body, in your surrounding, in

everything. This is where for me

role and

yes and especially when it comes to

becoming aware of your emotional states.

This is absolutely inner work. This has

nothing to do with doing work out here.

It's inner work.

How does one begin the journey of doing

that inner work?

You give trust in the vision that when

you are investing your time right now to

become more aware

of yourself, of your emotional state,

then this is going to benefit your life.

That's the starting point. You believe

in it. You believe in it. So you don't

do it because somebody tells you you're

supposed to do it. You do it because you

genuinely believe this is the way. Yeah.

I want to know more about

myself. I want to really understand what

of. You want to figure out is there

something inside of myself. I tried to

look away for many years but I know it's

still there and was afraid to look at

it. All of these

things. There's only one way to make

yourself free.

transparent. Yeah. If there are if there

are spots inside of ourself where

be. It can't

be. Bringing

light to everything that has been in the

dark. This is another area of the past.

which at some point everybody will

face. Yeah. And even though that is is

even though that this is not just like a saying

saying

idea whatever you're doing whatever

you're thinking whether people are

around you or you are

alone just imagine there is one who

always sees what you're doing.

So live your life based on that.

also.

Who else is it? It is the elevated

version of you. But it's true. It's you

and you.

Once I've shone a light on that area of

me, so I have greater awareness of its

existence and it's now transparent.

Is it a case then of what is the work I

then have to do to make a change in that

in that context? So, we're talking here

about managing one's emotions and

getting a grip of one's emotions so you

can avoid being triggered or

perpetrating the same patterns in your

life that have led you to the same

outcomes. First, you you believe that

it's possible to to change. You gain a

greater awareness of the parts of

yourself that you've kept in the dark

that you might want to change. And then

what does one do from there? Because I

came let's say from this martial art

field. Yes. Also meaning the Dao is

teaching or the principles of yin and

there. Let me put it like this.

Whatever you are

doing

has a

consequence. So this consequence that

you have created or that you are

create, ask

yourself what is that consequence

actually? Does it make you yourself?

Does it make your being, your

interaction with

people, does it make it feel more

light, more pleasurable, more enjoying, more

free, more

nourishing? Or is the result that you

are about to

create going in the other direction?

Meaning you're nourishing conflict. You

are nourishing aggression. Feeling like

you are carrying the suffering of the

world on your shoulder. Feeling like

there's a burden on you. Feeling like

there's a stone on your heart. Feeling

like you're being put under pressure.

See all of these expressions have

something to do with density. Have

something to do with

with

pressure. Yeah. But then when we look at

no matter which tradition it is, Buddhism,

Buddhism, enlightenment,

enlightenment, freedom,

freedom,

liberation, elevation, no matter what it

is. You see, it is just two forces in the

the

world. Two forces in the world. One

aiming for

limitlessness and the other one aiming

for restricting and very clear

boundaries. These are the two forces.

forces.

So, and this is exactly now turning the

view upon

yourself. What are you made out of? Your

your patterns, the emotional states that

follow you within a

week. Within a week, looking back the

last week, what was the most dominating

emotion you felt inside yourself? Was it

one that had the character of limiting

yourself in a way or were you in an

emotional state like through the week it

was light it was liberated free

uplifting joyful which of these so and

this simply gives you exactly from what

to what do I think you need to transform

yourself if you want

this if you want this. So,

So,

and why do I think that this is the

goal? Lightness. Lightness. Let's just

imagine after this

conversation, your best friend or your

best girlfriend going to ask you, so how

was this

conversation? And even so that we are

maybe just talking 3 hours, four hours.

Even if you spend two days long

explaining to your best friend how this

conversation was, it's not the

truth. How is this conversation? How is

this conversation? Even right now, we

cannot even speak about

it. I tell you how this conversation

this? You only you will be the only one ever

ever

knowing how this

is. It doesn't matter who's going to ask

you afterwards what you're going to tell

them. You want to feel it, you need to

experience it. There is no other way.

And this is the this is the nature of

words. This is why these these ancient

stories come. For example, one master

and his student walk up on the mountain

early in the morning. Then the sun rises

up and then the student says, "Oh,

master, what a beautiful sunrise." And

then like the master like slaps him and

never takes him to a walk uh anymore.

Then you say, "Why was the teacher so

hard to him?

Because in the moment where you give

something that you

experience a

word, you limit its

its

nature. You you you naturally limit its

nature. So how does this now translate

into into what we can do with this knowledge?

Whatever is being dense and it's

way I think everything for us to

practice is look beyond

limitations look beyond the

words look beyond the shape practice to

look beyond the superficiality of

things because this is where the meaning

lies or this is

where part of

the part of the realization lies.

I think in my life I I want to be light,

but the way that my life tends to

operate is I might aspire for that, but

then I fall into almost a bit of an

autopilot and I run the same pattern

throughout the week and the same I

respond in the same ways to the same

external external stim stimulus. So

although might one might aspire to be

freer and to be less agitated or to be

you know all those things I quickly fall

back into my old path my old autopilot

because life does seem to come at me

pretty quickly. Um if I look at my

calendar it's just full every day. So, I

wake up and like I woke up this morning

and I'm like with one eye open looking

at my phone schedule to figure out like

what day it is and what that means and

what I have to do and what's just

happened and oh, the podcast has gone

out and I've got this email from this

person and there's my calendar or when

I'm late for by 20 minutes and although

I might have the day before said to

myself that this week we're going to be

joyful and light and free, it feels like

the week hits me like a truck and then

boom, autopilot.

So our goal is set in a way and now

comes the next realization. Just because

your goal is set doesn't mean this life

is going to give you exactly what you're

meaning you really must make sure how

important is that goal really for

you because yeah I

uh I I witness it in my life as well. So

at some point I you know when it started

become a lot public you know the

calendar went full and at some point I

said to myself okay now it's becoming

too full let's start to let's start to

settle down a bit let's start to stay a

little bit more in the background. Yeah.

But then still like requests coming in

still and then you were think ah come

this one still. Yeah. But ultimately

it's really up to you how much do you

really want it and it is going to continue like this until you will

continue like this until you will ultimately come to the

ultimately come to the point and it's going to come quickly I

point and it's going to come quickly I do think

yeah where you realize for yourself that that it's an

that it's an infinite that it's that it's an infinite

infinite that it's that it's an infinite direction of possibible abilities. They

direction of possibible abilities. They will never run out. But you will still

will never run out. But you will still have to figure out what is it that you

have to figure out what is it that you really want from your

really want from your life. People will say, "Well, I want to

life. People will say, "Well, I want to have a mansion and I would like to have

have a mansion and I would like to have a private jet and I would like to have

a private jet and I would like to have a beautiful partner or I'd like to have

a beautiful partner or I'd like to have a

trophy." Valid. Absolutely understandable as well.

understandable as well. But I do think that this

But I do think that this universe is going to let you realize

universe is going to let you realize your lesson in the way how you need

it. Yeah. You're going to have your mansion. You're going to have your

mansion. You're going to have your beautiful, beautiful wife. You're going

beautiful, beautiful wife. You're going to have it all. There is something

to have it all. There is something that's going to put you back on

that's going to put you back on track. There is something that's going

track. There is something that's going to put you back on track. Telling you,

to put you back on track. Telling you, you need to readjust.

why it has always been like this. We come with

this. We come with nothing. We go with

nothing. We go with nothing. What does it

nothing. What does it mean? This universe is going to make

mean? This universe is going to make sure that you going to go with nothing.

sure that you going to go with nothing. Which means at some point before it's

Which means at some point before it's time for you to go, you will be faced

time for you to go, you will be faced with the fact of learning the necessity

with the fact of learning the necessity of letting go of what you have attained

of letting go of what you have attained in this

in this lifetime. And if you have not learned

lifetime. And if you have not learned and have not understood that this is

and have not understood that this is going to

going to come, then I think it's a very very hard

come, then I think it's a very very hard awakening. It's a very painful

awakening. It's a very painful awakening to realize to have this

awakening to realize to have this realization that you have spent 70

realization that you have spent 70 years 80 years following your goal and

years 80 years following your goal and now there is no other choice. You have

now there is no other choice. You have to let

to let go.

go. So

So yeah is not my

yeah is not my invention is just my observation.

invention is just my observation. And this is why in now maybe let's jump

And this is why in now maybe let's jump a little bit there are literally in the

a little bit there are literally in the ancient traditions in the text of chan

ancient traditions in the text of chan Buddhism Zen Buddhism is very simply

Buddhism Zen Buddhism is very simply said like this. How do you know that you

said like this. How do you know that you have practiced this past this tradition

have practiced this past this tradition in a in

in a in a in a decent

a in a decent manner? It is simply

manner? It is simply by feeling inside yourself how easy, how

by feeling inside yourself how easy, how willing are you actually to let go of

willing are you actually to let go of what you

have. If you feel that you are mentally attached to still things, still mentally

attached to still things, still mentally attached to

attached to possession, you're far you're you're far

possession, you're far you're you're far away from from the state of being what

away from from the state of being what this chan Buddhism, what this chan

this chan Buddhism, what this chan teaching is uh wanting to like reveal to

teaching is uh wanting to like reveal to you.

you. What it also means is if you have the

What it also means is if you have the possibility of attaining everything that

possibility of attaining everything that you were speaking

you were speaking about, you are absolutely happy to do

about, you are absolutely happy to do so. You are you can own

so. You are you can own everything. It's never about promoting

everything. It's never about promoting to have this is not good. No, but to

to have this is not good. No, but to have attachment at least in this type of

have attachment at least in this type of tradition will have consequence.

tradition will have consequence. So it's not about what is it that you

So it's not about what is it that you possess. It's

possess. It's about what of these possessions are

about what of these possessions are possessing

possessing you. That's it. And therefore, is it

you. That's it. And therefore, is it possible to possess things and to pursue

possible to possess things and to pursue the possession of things while

the possession of things while also having a relationship with them

also having a relationship with them where they don't possess you? I.e. Can I

where they don't possess you? I.e. Can I go in pursuit of getting a what's

go in pursuit of getting a what's something that one might want? A sports

something that one might want? A sports car. And is it possible to then have the

car. And is it possible to then have the sports car and pursue it without it

sports car and pursue it without it possessing me and therefore me avoiding

possessing me and therefore me avoiding the consequences that come with that

the consequences that come with that unhealthy relationship to

possession. Cuz in your life there must be things that you're pursuing and you

be things that you're pursuing and you get those things. So your book sells a

get those things. So your book sells a million copies. your YouTube channel

million copies. your YouTube channel does exceptionally well. You pursued

does exceptionally well. You pursued those things. Let's start with a sports

those things. Let's start with a sports car. Okay. Um

car. Okay. Um it depends on the rest of the

it depends on the rest of the circumstances. So, let me put it like

circumstances. So, let me put it like this. If the salary that you have, for

this. If the salary that you have, for example, is just as much that you can

example, is just as much that you can pay your rent. Nevertheless, you want to

pay your rent. Nevertheless, you want to have that sports car. Therefore, take a

have that sports car. Therefore, take a loan, then buy the sports car. It's very

loan, then buy the sports car. It's very probable you're going to be very

probable you're going to be very attached to the car. Yeah. Simply

attached to the car. Yeah. Simply because out of the out of the situation

because out of the out of the situation you bought it from. Yeah. You didn't buy

you bought it from. Yeah. You didn't buy it from a from a position of abundance.

it from a from a position of abundance. Yeah. So this is already not a good

Yeah. So this is already not a good starting point to afford something that

starting point to afford something that you actually cannot afford. So

you actually cannot afford. So differently it is

differently it is when you have the

when you have the possibilities and you just spend the

possibilities and you just spend the time and spend also the money on the

time and spend also the money on the sports car and see it what it is and

sports car and see it what it is and realistically see it what how much time

realistically see it what how much time you let's say spend with it. I do think

you let's say spend with it. I do think the excitement in the beginning is there

the excitement in the beginning is there for a week, maybe a month, that's

for a week, maybe a month, that's already long, but it's fading. And at

already long, but it's fading. And at some point, there will even be a day you

some point, there will even be a day you don't even see it cuz you're busy. Then

don't even see it cuz you're busy. Then there will be a week when you see the

there will be a week when you see the car once standing around somewhere. And

car once standing around somewhere. And then there will be a months passing by

then there will be a months passing by where you are traveling the world and

where you are traveling the world and you're not even sure anymore when was it

you're not even sure anymore when was it the last time that you were riding it.

the last time that you were riding it. So, and these are things like when you

So, and these are things like when you observe them and actually realize yeah

observe them and actually realize yeah it's the truth. This is how the how the

it's the truth. This is how the how the development of things with possessions

development of things with possessions is in the beginning it's always like you

is in the beginning it's always like you want to have you want to have and then

want to have you want to have and then they

they fade.

fade. go and diving into this type of

go and diving into this type of mentality of really

mentality of really understanding wanting. Wanting is the

understanding wanting. Wanting is the one part and then realizing how is life

one part and then realizing how is life really. Do you need it? Is it necessary?

really. Do you need it? Is it necessary? Can you afford it is the second part. It

Can you afford it is the second part. It just opens another perspective and then

just opens another perspective and then you just decide for

you just decide for yourself. Yeah. But so whether something

yourself. Yeah. But so whether something is possessing you or you can possess

is possessing you or you can possess something without being attached to it

something without being attached to it very much is linked to all of

very much is linked to all of this. From which position did you buy it

this. From which position did you buy it from? Did you attain it from? And then

from? Did you attain it from? And then the second thing is how much time do you

the second thing is how much time do you literally really spend with it? The

literally really spend with it? The second of the five hindrances is ill

second of the five hindrances is ill will. A negative emotion such as dislike

will. A negative emotion such as dislike stops you from chasing a goal.

stops you from chasing a goal. Can you give me some context on this

Can you give me some context on this one? What do you mean by ill will?

Look, it's I make it super simple when it comes to the five hindrances

it comes to the five hindrances literally is like

this. No, whatever whatever appears in our

our life. If I have my goal set right now,

life. If I have my goal set right now, what you are not supposed to do is to

what you are not supposed to do is to witness

witness something. And now if you have like the

something. And now if you have like the number one sensual desire, sensory

number one sensual desire, sensory desire, what we tend to do is we like

desire, what we tend to do is we like start to pull things towards

start to pull things towards us. Okay, that's number one. The second

us. Okay, that's number one. The second thing, what not to do, this is what it

thing, what not to do, this is what it all belongs to that family of

all belongs to that family of non-judgment is like when ill will

non-judgment is like when ill will something appears in your life.

something appears in your life. Something you witness. Yeah. You meet a

Something you witness. Yeah. You meet a person you don't want to meet. You get a

person you don't want to meet. You get a message, you don't want to read that

message, you don't want to read that message. whatever it is and you try to

message. whatever it is and you try to avoid it by doing actions in order to

avoid it by doing actions in order to push it away from you. So what it

push it away from you. So what it ultimately means is don't do any of them

ultimately means is don't do any of them because whatever you try to hold on to

because whatever you try to hold on to the nature of thing is that this is

the nature of thing is that this is happening swinging away. is going to

happening swinging away. is going to move away from you and whatever you try

move away from you and whatever you try to avoid and push away from you is just

to avoid and push away from you is just a question of time

a question of time until it's going to move like pretty

until it's going to move like pretty close towards you. It's going to come

close towards you. It's going to come towards you. It's going to come towards

towards you. It's going to come towards you.

you. Okay? So that

means also in the way of how it's expressed, don't touch the

expressed, don't touch the water. If you don't want to

water. If you don't want to have a life that is too

have a life that is too shaky, don't touch the

shaky, don't touch the water because in the moment you touch,

water because in the moment you touch, your touch is the initiation for the

your touch is the initiation for the ripples to appear.

ripples to appear. Same way you want to follow that goal.

Same way you want to follow that goal. You want to have it easy along that

You want to have it easy along that goal. Don't touch any additional water

goal. Don't touch any additional water along your goal. Don't touch it because

along your goal. Don't touch it because you like something and don't touch it

you like something and don't touch it because you dislike something because

because you dislike something because when you walk towards the goal and you

when you walk towards the goal and you do here and here and here, you you're

do here and here and here, you you're just going to ripple your whole

just going to ripple your whole surroundings which ultimately means your

surroundings which ultimately means your energy is being just drawn away from

energy is being just drawn away from your initial goal. That's how I would

your initial goal. That's how I would say it is an ill will is one of these

say it is an ill will is one of these expressions of you don't like something

expressions of you don't like something and then you invest the energy there.

and then you invest the energy there. You like something and it draws your

You like something and it draws your energy back to there. And ill will is

energy back to there. And ill will is similar in this category belonging to

similar in this category belonging to this idea

this idea of don't push, don't pull. as you've

of don't push, don't pull. as you've become more popular and you've got

become more popular and you've got millions and millions of views across

millions and millions of views across the internet. Your TED talk, I think

the internet. Your TED talk, I think from the link, one of the links that I

from the link, one of the links that I saw had some 20 million views and it

saw had some 20 million views and it probably has tens of more millions of

probably has tens of more millions of views all over the internet. Um, there's

views all over the internet. Um, there's going to be more and more

going to be more and more people sending you messages, interacting

people sending you messages, interacting with you,

with you, and saying amazing things, saying not so

and saying amazing things, saying not so amazing things. We experienced this

amazing things. We experienced this obviously as a podcaster. you just you

obviously as a podcaster. you just you get you receive all kinds of feedback

get you receive all kinds of feedback from everybody. When you think about how

from everybody. When you think about how you manage that and you manage other

you manage that and you manage other people's opinion of you does this tie

people's opinion of you does this tie into ill will and I guess the ultimate

into ill will and I guess the ultimate question is do you care what people

question is do you care what people think about you? So there was a time I

think about you? So there was a time I cared a lot a lot a lot a lot very much

cared a lot a lot a lot a lot very much but within the last five six years I

but within the last five six years I really had my hard lessons being

really had my hard lessons being perfectly honest. Number one thing I

perfectly honest. Number one thing I need to learn is also to

need to learn is also to really not take things too deep into

really not take things too deep into consideration especially from people

consideration especially from people that I've never met in my life. Number

that I've never met in my life. Number one that is the first area I needed to

one that is the first area I needed to learn which means all the everything

learn which means all the everything that's on social media everything that

that's on social media everything that is publicly available. This is one thing

is publicly available. This is one thing why because what they judge or if they

why because what they judge or if they judge or what they comment they can only

judge or what they comment they can only comment on the character that is

comment on the character that is actually being available to them. So

actually being available to them. So which is ultimately what which is for

which is ultimately what which is for example also let's say that

example also let's say that person yeah named Shuhungi on that cover

person yeah named Shuhungi on that cover always like having a good uniform in a

always like having a good uniform in a way representing something

way representing something yes but I'm simply not limited to only

yes but I'm simply not limited to only this type of

this type of representation and this is something

representation and this is something really really important in general now

really really important in general now to to bring out there to the

world. It is not it is not good. It is not

helpful if this idea of putting people on on how you call it on on higher

on on how you call it on on higher pedestal or or podest is not a good

pedestal or or podest is not a good idea.

idea. The idea of raising somebody up to be

The idea of raising somebody up to be our guru, raising somebody up to be our

our guru, raising somebody up to be our master, raising somebody up, oh yes, he

master, raising somebody up, oh yes, he is the he is the special one. All of

is the he is the special one. All of these

these things are doing exactly the opposite of

things are doing exactly the opposite of what I'm trying to bring into the world

what I'm trying to bring into the world of what I do believe is the key

of what I do believe is the key especially in this times right now

especially in this times right now worldwide. It is to become aware of the

worldwide. It is to become aware of the real and the

real and the fake. This is the this is the current

fake. This is the this is the current situation that we're in that the

situation that we're in that the threshold that the line between whether

threshold that the line between whether something is real or whether something

something is real or whether something is artificial or not real. It's becoming

is artificial or not real. It's becoming so

so incredibly slim that

incredibly slim that line. This is why at the moment our

line. This is why at the moment our world seems seems so

world seems seems so fractioned. There are the ones which are

fractioned. There are the ones which are completely about let's go into the

completely about let's go into the nature and then there's the other

nature and then there's the other fraction which is all about going into

fraction which is all about going into the technology into everything that's

the technology into everything that's available nowadays where ultimately

available nowadays where ultimately meaning at some point you will be able

meaning at some point you will be able to just spend your whole life in your

to just spend your whole life in your living room cuz everything you want to

living room cuz everything you want to see and want to partially experience you

see and want to partially experience you just call it into your living room. It's

just call it into your living room. It's going to be possible at some point in

going to be possible at some point in time.

time. So why how do we get to the point? Yeah,

So why how do we get to the point? Yeah, exactly. Because of this, it's not good

exactly. Because of this, it's not good if people raise you up and make you

if people raise you up and make you unhuman. And this is what is being

unhuman. And this is what is being attacked. So this is number one. That

attacked. So this is number one. That takes a little bit the pressure off from

takes a little bit the pressure off from me to take it too seriously because I

me to take it too seriously because I just know they are seeing something but

just know they are seeing something but it's a fraction of what I am. This

it's a fraction of what I am. This number

number one second realization at the same time

was also not helpful or wasn't helpful and or let's say was also a lesson for

and or let's say was also a lesson for me even the close people even the very

me even the close people even the very close people in my surrounding that

close people in my surrounding that stayed with me for 8 n

stayed with me for 8 n years sometimes even such close people

years sometimes even such close people don't know who you are can also happen

don't know who you are can also happen hurts double as much as people saying

hurts double as much as people saying something about you that don't know you.

something about you that don't know you. Now you have people that you thought

Now you have people that you thought know you and still they didn't get you.

know you and still they didn't get you. Also very

Also very painful. So ultimately leading only to

painful. So ultimately leading only to one thing. It only leads to one thing.

one thing. It only leads to one thing. You would have right now the impression

You would have right now the impression of so what's the only way? Just go your

of so what's the only way? Just go your way regardless of what people think in a

way regardless of what people think in a way. Yes.

them and and no ill will against them. Have empathy for their lack of

Have empathy for their lack of understanding.

understanding. Yes, that is ultimately the only thing

Yes, that is ultimately the only thing that me as a as a result for the current

that me as a as a result for the current state of

state of being the that I took as my consequence.

being the that I took as my consequence. Yes. So be careful, be very aware who

Yes. So be careful, be very aware who are you letting into your

are you letting into your circle and ultimately rely on yourself

circle and ultimately rely on yourself and maintain

your sorry to say, but it's the heart. Maintain the purity of your

heart. Maintain the purity of your intention. One of the things that I've

intention. One of the things that I've I've noticed in your work is that you

I've noticed in your work is that you have this huge emphasis on being able to

have this huge emphasis on being able to focus oneself. And when I talked to you

focus oneself. And when I talked to you about this brick, I think just before we

about this brick, I think just before we started recording, you said to me that

started recording, you said to me that the average person on the street might

the average person on the street might not be able to break it. But if someone

not be able to break it. But if someone was really, really strong, they might be

was really, really strong, they might be able to break it. However, the key to

able to break it. However, the key to breaking this brick isn't strength

breaking this brick isn't strength necessarily. It's the ability to really

necessarily. It's the ability to really really focus. And when we talked about

really focus. And when we talked about the five hindrances, they will sway us

the five hindrances, they will sway us from focus. They will distract us from

from focus. They will distract us from that ability to focus. So, you've

that ability to focus. So, you've cultivated that ability to focus, which

cultivated that ability to focus, which culminates in you being able to smash

culminates in you being able to smash this brick with your hand. And it's not

this brick with your hand. And it's not necessarily a strength thing you're

necessarily a strength thing you're saying. It is this connection between

saying. It is this connection between mind and body focused at a particular

mind and body focused at a particular moment. Yes. So can you show me you

moment. Yes. So can you show me you smashing this brick? Absolutely.

Do you do you put the the brick in the in the middle of the blocks or do you

in the middle of the blocks or do you just put it there? Put it like this. Oh.

just put it there? Put it like this. Oh. So okay. Okay. So chop it down on one

So okay. Okay. So chop it down on one side. Okay.

side. Okay. Do you have another brick? Yes. There's

Do you have another brick? Yes. There's another one

another one here. You're going to pick your brick.

hell. [Applause]

[Applause] [Laughter]

[Laughter] Damn. So, what were you doing then in

Damn. So, what were you doing then in the in the leadup to that? Just have

the in the leadup to that? Just have your hands like here to the front.

your hands like here to the front. If I touch you like this and only do

If I touch you like this and only do here. Yeah. M see this like I don't have

here. Yeah. M see this like I don't have a good feeling for you. I don't have a

a good feeling for you. I don't have a good feeling for your body. Yeah.

good feeling for your body. Yeah. Because it's like it's superficial right

Because it's like it's superficial right now. Mhm. What I do is like when I touch

you know so it's not this type of touching you. When I touch you I

touching you. When I touch you I literally try to sense your body

literally try to sense your body structure. Yeah. I I feel like inside

structure. Yeah. I I feel like inside you where is the tension? Where's the

you where is the tension? Where's the relaxation inside the

relaxation inside the body? So it's like we call it I'm

body? So it's like we call it I'm reading your

reading your body. I'm reading your body. How is it

body. I'm reading your body. How is it where is the energy locked? Where is it

where is the energy locked? Where is it dense? Where is it loose? So the same I

dense? Where is it loose? So the same I do with the

do with the stone. But when I when I touch the

stone. But when I when I touch the stone, I literally feel inside like

stone, I literally feel inside like sounds funny, but I feel inside the

sounds funny, but I feel inside the structure of the of the stone. I feel

structure of the of the stone. I feel the density of the stone in my

the density of the stone in my fingers and then I just see okay

fingers and then I just see okay [Music]

[Music] now. So I I I know how the energy is

now. So I I I know how the energy is going to come down. I know how the

going to come down. I know how the energy is going to come down and then I

energy is going to come down and then I just like see how does it fit together.

just like see how does it fit together. So on the one side I feel the structure

So on the one side I feel the structure of the stone. On the other side I know

of the stone. On the other side I know what type of energy is going to come in.

what type of energy is going to come in. Those two I combine and then I just boom

Those two I combine and then I just boom do it.

do it. That's it. And how does that translate

That's it. And how does that translate to life generally?

to life generally? Good question. Because we, you know,

Good question. Because we, you know, it's not a problem I have day-to-day,

it's not a problem I have day-to-day, but that ability to understand the

but that ability to understand the energy of something and the structure of

energy of something and the structure of something and then really understand be

something and then really understand be able to cultivate your own focused

able to cultivate your own focused energy when you need it.

I do. So, do you need to have this ability to live a proper life? I don't

ability to live a proper life? I don't think so. But somebody who is able to

think so. But somebody who is able to break the stone like this definitely

break the stone like this definitely possesses some type of skill set raises

possesses some type of skill set raises the probability that you can do

the probability that you can do something with that mindset in your

something with that mindset in your daily life. Which means already

daily life. Which means already um the only way to do this is you know

um the only way to do this is you know what consistency

what consistency means. You know what patience

means. You know what patience means. Yeah. you also knows what like

means. Yeah. you also knows what like endurance means or

endurance means or like training means and all of these

like training means and all of these character attributes that make it

character attributes that make it possible to break the stone just also

possible to break the stone just also builds the foundation I would say to

builds the foundation I would say to integrate this now into other areas of

integrate this now into other areas of life yeah so it's not about the breaking

life yeah so it's not about the breaking of the stone but at the same time it's

of the stone but at the same time it's also an expression of look the human

also an expression of look the human your body is capable of doing a lot of

your body is capable of doing a lot of things. Yeah. And this is just one of

things. Yeah. And this is just one of them. There are so many extraordinary

them. There are so many extraordinary abilities that people can do nowadays,

abilities that people can do nowadays, but all of them have one thing in

but all of them have one thing in common. You have a vision and you find a

common. You have a vision and you find a proper way how to nourish that vision

proper way how to nourish that vision that the vision becomes

that the vision becomes real. Similar like this.

real. Similar like this. So this is a consequence of

So this is a consequence of yes a long journey of several character

yes a long journey of several character traits and attributes which you've

traits and attributes which you've cultivated over a long period of time

cultivated over a long period of time and this is just a a symptom or a

and this is just a a symptom or a consequence of those things. You know

consequence of those things. You know that's that's exactly the thing similar

that's that's exactly the thing similar like you know when yeah when nowadays

like you know when yeah when nowadays you look at any type of competition

you look at any type of competition sports the event itself the competition

sports the event itself the competition is being recorded that one minute

is being recorded that one minute performance.

performance. Yeah. Or that nine rings or that three

Yeah. Or that nine rings or that three three minutes. Yeah. Yeah. But

three minutes. Yeah. Yeah. But everything that makes it possible for

everything that makes it possible for them to perform in that one minute on

them to perform in that one minute on that show. Nobody sees what is lying in

that show. Nobody sees what is lying in front of there. Similar like this. Yeah.

front of there. Similar like this. Yeah. It's it's it's with less than one second

It's it's it's with less than one second the stone is broken. Yeah. But took like

the stone is broken. Yeah. But took like a few years to be able to do that one

a few years to be able to do that one second. And how long would it take me to

second. And how long would it take me to learn how to do two bricks like you just

learn how to do two bricks like you just did then? How long do you think you

did then? How long do you think you would have to spend training me? You're

would have to spend training me? You're looking at my hand. M because it's

looking at my hand. M because it's important because it's literally not

important because it's literally not only about um it's not just about the

only about um it's not just about the focus of the mind. It literally is also

focus of the mind. It literally is also about building the density now

about building the density now physically speaking the density of the

physically speaking the density of the bone structure. So I I can just give you

bone structure. So I I can just give you if you like a a little

if you like a a little example. What we do is this part and

example. What we do is this part and this part of the arm we just smash it

this part of the arm we just smash it like this. Oh my gosh. This is like a So

like this. Oh my gosh. This is like a So like this. Okay. Okay. You just try like

like this. Okay. Okay. You just try like one just go really. Oh my

one just go really. Oh my god. Your yours is like a steel.

god. Your yours is like a steel. Yeah. And and this is what it is.

Yeah. And and this is what it is. Yeah. So it is changing you if you want.

Yeah. So it is changing you if you want. You can like touch. You can feel it's

You can like touch. You can feel it's Yeah. It's like steel. Mine's like um

polyyrene in comparison to that. But well, yours just feels like steel. It

well, yours just feels like steel. It felt like I was hitting a a a bar or

felt like I was hitting a a a bar or something. Okay. So, you've got to build

something. Okay. So, you've got to build up the strength. But still, to answer

up the strength. But still, to answer the question, I do

the question, I do think 3 months, but dedicated training.

think 3 months, but dedicated training. Yeah. Mhm. And what would that training

Yeah. Mhm. And what would that training look like? So right now as I explained

look like? So right now as I explained before this is why I also like in the

before this is why I also like in the book I mentioned one of the grandmasters

book I mentioned one of the grandmasters that I also learn a lot of the methods

that I also learn a lot of the methods from this is now let's say it's a stone

from this is now let's say it's a stone yeah stone belonging to the family of

yeah stone belonging to the family of earth because okay earth now in a in

earth because okay earth now in a in Asian tradition we have like the five

Asian tradition we have like the five elements or the five transition phases

elements or the five transition phases wood earth metal fire water like these

wood earth metal fire water like these five elements So the proper training

five elements So the proper training starts with the so-called wood training.

starts with the so-called wood training. Okay. So we are using a lot of wooden

Okay. So we are using a lot of wooden material to actually condition our body.

material to actually condition our body. Yeah. So you're not going to break

Yeah. So you're not going to break stones. You you break like first of all

stones. You you break like first of all wooden things. Mhm. After wood is no

wooden things. Mhm. After wood is no problem for you. Then we go to the next

problem for you. Then we go to the next layer which is going to be stone. You

layer which is going to be stone. You know this was this was this one for

know this was this was this one for example. After stone comes metal. And so

example. After stone comes metal. And so like this you we we go through all the

like this you we we go through all the layers until your body has increased in

layers until your body has increased in its abilities. You know the frequency of

its abilities. You know the frequency of wood, you know the frequency of stone,

wood, you know the frequency of stone, you know the frequency and vibration of

you know the frequency and vibration of metal. And this is how we increase our

metal. And this is how we increase our ability to just uh be able to to to

ability to just uh be able to to to actually maintain our strength in the

actually maintain our strength in the field of all five elements. You can

field of all five elements. You can break metal

break metal or you can hit metal. You can hit metal.

or you can hit metal. You can hit metal. You can hit metal. Okay. You can hit

You can hit metal. Okay. You can hit metal. Thank you. Fascinating. Thank

metal. Thank you. Fascinating. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you.

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virtues in Shaolon tradition. Virtues are a guiding system in both martial

are a guiding system in both martial arts and daily life. The Shaolin warrior

arts and daily life. The Shaolin warrior practices thinking deliberately and

practices thinking deliberately and mindfully about the virtues of everyday

mindfully about the virtues of everyday life for his or her life. And the there

life for his or her life. And the there are two categories of virtues. the

are two categories of virtues. the virtues to be expected and the virtues

virtues to be expected and the virtues to be

to be leared. What are these virtues that you

leared. What are these virtues that you speak about in the Shaolon tradition?

Prior to somebody entering now let's say into the temple and wants to learn from

into the temple and wants to learn from there. First of all we also as teachers

there. First of all we also as teachers want to find

want to find out what does the character of that

out what does the character of that personality already

personality already possesses. Yeah. And these are for

possesses. Yeah. And these are for example what we are looking for are

example what we are looking for are ultimately the virtues to be

ultimately the virtues to be expected. Virtues to be expected are for

expected. Virtues to be expected are for example self-control. A certain amount

example self-control. A certain amount of

of self-control, a certain amount of

self-control, a certain amount of discipline. So self-control, what does

discipline. So self-control, what does that mean in this context? If I'm

that mean in this context? If I'm self-controlled, what am I? You don't

self-controlled, what am I? You don't let your emotions run over you. Okay?

let your emotions run over you. Okay? You you you don't even if something

You you you don't even if something makes you angry but in this context it's

makes you angry but in this context it's not honorable it's not respectful to now

not honorable it's not respectful to now shout out you shouldn't do it okay you

shout out you shouldn't do it okay you should like be able to maintain

should like be able to maintain your emotional states maintain your

your emotional states maintain your temper let's say also at least to a

temper let's say also at least to a certain extent this is where I would say

certain extent this is where I would say it comes to self-control and the second

it comes to self-control and the second one you said was discipline so

one you said was discipline so discipline

discipline meaning you have like I said even if

meaning you have like I said even if it's called the virtues to be expected

it's called the virtues to be expected expected means they should be visible

expected means they should be visible somehow but not to the fullest extent to

somehow but not to the fullest extent to to what's what people are capable of

to what's what people are capable of okay discipline just meaning this

okay discipline just meaning this understanding that if you come to the

understanding that if you come to the temple life you know it's going to be

temple life you know it's going to be difficult to wake up every day at the

difficult to wake up every day at the same time and then start to do through

same time and then start to do through the go through the daily structure. So

the go through the daily structure. So it it needs some type of commitment.

it it needs some type of commitment. Let's say it needs some type of I know

Let's say it needs some type of I know it's hard but I'm willing to do it. This

it's hard but I'm willing to do it. This type of discipline. Yeah. This is also

type of discipline. Yeah. This is also in a in a way expected. And then uh

in a in a way expected. And then uh another one is simply to be benevolent

another one is simply to be benevolent as well.

as well. So that's kindness and compassion for

So that's kindness and compassion for your brothers and sisters. Kind of it

your brothers and sisters. Kind of it goes. Yeah. The virtues sometimes swim

goes. Yeah. The virtues sometimes swim into each other. But this idea of why do

into each other. But this idea of why do we have these virtues in the first

place and again it's like in Star Wars the force what you're

Wars the force what you're learning the cultivation of

learning the cultivation of energy the skills that you are learning

energy the skills that you are learning they are these are very very powerful

they are these are very very powerful things. Yeah. But what does what makes

things. Yeah. But what does what makes the difference between somebody

the difference between somebody possessing this power and using it for

possessing this power and using it for the sake of humanity or somebody using

the sake of humanity or somebody using it for the um for the not betterment of

it for the um for the not betterment of humanity. It's the

humanity. It's the character. The power is the same. It's

character. The power is the same. It's the character. It's the carrier of the

the character. It's the carrier of the power. It's the one who is in

power. It's the one who is in in who's responsible to to hold this

in who's responsible to to hold this power to maintain this power. That one

power to maintain this power. That one must be trained as well. And this is

must be trained as well. And this is where the virtues hit in. The virtues

where the virtues hit in. The virtues are building the framework of the

are building the framework of the character of the avatar ultimately that

character of the avatar ultimately that is then receiving all different types

is then receiving all different types of training, skill training that we that

of training, skill training that we that at least in the Shaolin tradition we

at least in the Shaolin tradition we would say is good to know them. Same in

would say is good to know them. Same in business really. I looked at a lot of

business really. I looked at a lot of these virtues and I thought they're all

these virtues and I thought they're all the kinds of things that we're looking

the kinds of things that we're looking for in a good team member. So we've got

for in a good team member. So we've got discipline, self-control, modesty,

discipline, self-control, modesty, benevolence, humility, respect,

benevolence, humility, respect, righteousness, trust, loyalty,

righteousness, trust, loyalty, willpower, perseverance, persistence,

willpower, perseverance, persistence, courage, and

courage, and patience. So ultimately, like I said

patience. So ultimately, like I said before, in the Shaolin traditional text

before, in the Shaolin traditional text is broken down into 14 different

is broken down into 14 different virtues. Yeah. Four of them to be

virtues. Yeah. Four of them to be expected. Another five virtues of

expected. Another five virtues of action. Another five virtues of the

action. Another five virtues of the mind. Just simply when you will later on

mind. Just simply when you will later on fly through it again. The virtues of

fly through it again. The virtues of action. What does it mean virtues of

action. What does it mean virtues of action? It is how should you behave? How

action? It is how should you behave? How should you

should you behave? Behave in a loyal

behave? Behave in a loyal way. Behave in a trustful way. Behave in

way. Behave in a trustful way. Behave in a respectful

a respectful way. Behave in a courageous way. Yeah.

way. Behave in a courageous way. Yeah. So this is the how should you do

So this is the how should you do something and the virtues of mind. For

something and the virtues of mind. For example, they

example, they say what is it that nourishes the way

say what is it that nourishes the way for you to put the virtues of action

for you to put the virtues of action into practice? How can you be? How can

into practice? How can you be? How can you learn to behave respectfully?

you learn to behave respectfully? Because naturally if people like

Because naturally if people like insulting you, you don't behave

insulting you, you don't behave respectfully towards

respectfully towards them. Yeah. So how can you still behave

them. Yeah. So how can you still behave respectfully, still be loyal to

respectfully, still be loyal to people? How do you do it? Well, then

people? How do you do it? Well, then this is where where it then comes

this is where where it then comes to the virtues of the

to the virtues of the mind to really learn to be

patient to really know what does it mean to be

to be persistent to persevere during your

persistent to persevere during your training. Yeah. And this is ultimately

training. Yeah. And this is ultimately how I would describe it to easily

how I would describe it to easily understand. Do you believe in a god or

understand. Do you believe in a god or do you believe in a religion?

do you believe in a religion? If if someone asked you which religion

If if someone asked you which religion do you follow what would your answer be?

do you follow what would your answer be? I would call it the religion of

I would call it the religion of oneness. The religion of oneness. The

oneness. The religion of oneness. The religion of I do believe that we are

religion of I do believe that we are connected at some

connected at some way and it is my journey. I don't want

way and it is my journey. I don't want to just intellectualize it.

I do think it is an it is a it the path is to

is to lay out and remove all the friction and

lay out and remove all the friction and all the obstacles to just realize that

all the obstacles to just realize that it is like

it is like this. Yeah, this is maybe also like an a

this. Yeah, this is maybe also like an a very essential point along along the

very essential point along along the complete line whether somebody reads the

complete line whether somebody reads the book or whether somebody watches all

book or whether somebody watches all these type of YouTube

channels. I myself always grew up in the need to attain something to add

need to attain something to add something up on top of my life.

something up on top of my life. This tradition, the whole tradition I'm

This tradition, the whole tradition I'm talking about is actually quite the

talking about is actually quite the opposite. That's why in in the latest in

opposite. That's why in in the latest in the latest videos or publications for

the latest videos or publications for example, I often mention that actually

example, I often mention that actually there is nothing I can give to anyone.

there is nothing I can give to anyone. It's not that you miss something in your

It's not that you miss something in your life.

life. Yeah, remember you're not in a lack but

Yeah, remember you're not in a lack but in the moment where it feels like we are

in the moment where it feels like we are meeting and I give you something when

meeting and I give you something when you even think that I'm giving you

you even think that I'm giving you something and you are about to receive

something and you are about to receive something that's not the right state of

something that's not the right state of mind already. I have nothing to give

mind already. I have nothing to give you. The only thing that I really try to

you. The only thing that I really try to do is take stuff away from you.

do is take stuff away from you. Take things away from you that are

Take things away from you that are covering that you see that you are

covering that you see that you are complete. What things tend to cover us

complete. What things tend to cover us that need to be taken away? Everything

that need to be taken away? Everything that builds up

identity. Everything that builds up a stronger and stronger

stronger and stronger identity. Everything that you keep from

identity. Everything that you keep from the past in your mind.

the past in your mind. The more that you keep the past in the

The more that you keep the past in the mind, the stronger your identity is. I

mind, the stronger your identity is. I do think this is one correlation that

do think this is one correlation that also goes hand in

also goes hand in hand. The more you keep past elements

hand. The more you keep past elements inside your mind, the less likely you

inside your mind, the less likely you will be able to break free into the

will be able to break free into the future and open up for the possibilities

future and open up for the possibilities that this lifetime might still have for

that this lifetime might still have for you.

you. Are you

I'm not searching for happiness. I'm searching for peace.

happiness. I'm searching for peace. So my state of what what I'm aiming for

So my state of what what I'm aiming for I would say it is

peace because happiness for me yeah taking by this word if there's

me yeah taking by this word if there's happiness there is sadness if something

happiness there is sadness if something can rise something must

can rise something must fall if you can attain something there's

fall if you can attain something there's something to lose that's why it's

something to lose that's why it's difficult that's why I I stopped the

difficult that's why I I stopped the moment I don't know what type of

moment I don't know what type of happiness. You mean being satisfied with

happiness. You mean being satisfied with where I am standing? Yes. Does it mean

where I am standing? Yes. Does it mean that I don't have hard moments? I have

that I don't have hard moments? I have hard

hard moments. And that's why for me like what

moments. And that's why for me like what is it I ultimately look for? I would

is it I ultimately look for? I would call it is just peace. Are you at peace?

call it is just peace. Are you at peace? More and more. Yes. More and more. This

More and more. Yes. More and more. This one. Yes. More and more. What's in the

one. Yes. More and more. What's in the way of your peace?

I would call it karmic relations, karmic

relations, karmic connections that you just think

connections that you just think like you cannot avoid them. You you

like you cannot avoid them. You you cannot avoid them anymore. What is

cannot avoid them anymore. What is karmic

karmic connections? Karmic connection

meaning because your mother gave birth to you

to you automatically whatever your mother is

automatically whatever your mother is doing or not doing however the state of

doing or not doing however the state of health of your mother is is going to

health of your mother is is going to affect

affect you in a way. So there are sometimes

you in a way. So there are sometimes people in this world you have a closer

people in this world you have a closer karmic relation towards them. So what

karmic relation towards them. So what they are doing is also going to affect

they are doing is also going to affect you. So and in my case it's the

you. So and in my case it's the same. Yeah. So meaning so literally real

same. Yeah. So meaning so literally real life speaking. So my son Yes. He is a

life speaking. So my son Yes. He is a very strong karmic relation. He's on the

very strong karmic relation. He's on the one side my own flesh and blood together

one side my own flesh and blood together with my beloved. But it also means the

with my beloved. But it also means the way how my son feels it is affecting me.

way how my son feels it is affecting me. And this is something that I still need

And this is something that I still need to regulate. Learn to

regulate which also sometimes means I mean if you only sleep like 2 hours per

mean if you only sleep like 2 hours per night then it is like this

night then it is like this but you have good training to still

but you have good training to still maintain your peace afterwards. But it

maintain your peace afterwards. But it is these are simple things. Yes. And

is these are simple things. Yes. And what is your practice in terms of your

what is your practice in terms of your routines? What do you do every day that

routines? What do you do every day that brings you back to yourself so that you

brings you back to yourself so that you can regulate yourself? What is your from

can regulate yourself? What is your from the moment you wake up in the morning,

the moment you wake up in the morning, are there any routines that you try and

are there any routines that you try and execute every day?

execute every day? Number one

Number one is one of the first things is really try

is one of the first things is really try as often as you can to remind yourself

as often as you can to remind yourself and put yourself in that proper state of

and put yourself in that proper state of what you think you are.

what you think you are. I wake up and try to not already have

I wake up and try to not already have any type of thought from yesterday in my

any type of thought from yesterday in my mind. I try to wake up empty. Let's call

mind. I try to wake up empty. Let's call it like this. And meaning also try to at

it like this. And meaning also try to at all moments immerse myself as much as I

all moments immerse myself as much as I can in the present

can in the present moment. That's what it is. Yeah. Live in

moment. That's what it is. Yeah. Live in the here and now. How you do this? To

the here and now. How you do this? To live in the here and now. Stop jumping

live in the here and now. Stop jumping into the past and stop jumping into the

into the past and stop jumping into the future. Then you live in the here and

future. Then you live in the here and now. But you must practice

now. But you must practice it. And literally meaning how you do it,

it. And literally meaning how you do it, make yourself empty. Because the only

make yourself empty. Because the only thing that fills your mind with past and

thing that fills your mind with past and future is your

future is your thoughts. The mind.

thoughts. The mind. So if I watched you for the first hour

So if I watched you for the first hour when you woke up in the morning, what

when you woke up in the morning, what would I see on a on a typical day?

would I see on a on a typical day? I wake up and sit on the sofa and and

I wake up and sit on the sofa and and and still just

sit. So just being awake and and just breathe literally just realizing slowly

breathe literally just realizing slowly scanning my own body from the inside

scanning my own body from the inside going through the

going through the body. So really making sure in a way

body. So really making sure in a way that everything that's going to come up

that everything that's going to come up during this day is being perceived very

consciously. Yeah. By this. So it's like I slowly build up my energies prepared.

I slowly build up my energies prepared. This is how I would call it. It doesn't

This is how I would call it. It doesn't look very special looking from the

look very special looking from the outside. Unless I wake up and I

outside. Unless I wake up and I mean the sun is asking for something

mean the sun is asking for something then of course I have my duties to do.

then of course I have my duties to do. But if I can really have my day after

But if I can really have my day after waking up still the next hour is still I

waking up still the next hour is still I spend alone. This is what I prefer to

spend alone. This is what I prefer to do. And do you do exercise in the

do. And do you do exercise in the morning? Yes. What do you do? Push-ups,

morning? Yes. What do you do? Push-ups, sit-ups and standing practice. What

sit-ups and standing practice. What standing practice? No. Partially it's

standing practice? No. Partially it's also some of them are like mentioned in

also some of them are like mentioned in the book but literally it is what it

the book but literally it is what it sounds like. I choose one position that

sounds like. I choose one position that I'm standing in and then I hold that

I'm standing in and then I hold that position for 15 minutes.

position for 15 minutes. Why?

Why? So let's take all the spiritual part out

So let's take all the spiritual part out of this because there are some positions

of this because there are some positions that are looking

that are looking so

so strange that at some point I also asked

strange that at some point I also asked myself how would somebody even invest

myself how would somebody even invest his

his lifetime standing and putting yourself

lifetime standing and putting yourself through such a position. Well, there

through such a position. Well, there must be a reason why in ancient

must be a reason why in ancient times it is kept as

times it is kept as a as a secret practice to stay like

a as a secret practice to stay like this. And since I discovered it, I do

this. And since I discovered it, I do have to say that

have to say that um it's not this one. At some point, the

um it's not this one. At some point, the squatting monkey is

squatting monkey is called this is a practice that builds up

called this is a practice that builds up what we call energy.

what we call energy. How do you build up energy? It is by

How do you build up energy? It is by giving your mind something where you

giving your mind something where you need to have willpower to maintain

need to have willpower to maintain it.

it. Willpower and development of

Willpower and development of energy go hand in hand with each other.

energy go hand in hand with each other. The will to

The will to live, the will to keep going, the will,

live, the will to keep going, the will, the

the will, strong will, iron will, energy is

will, strong will, iron will, energy is also very high. And so literally some of

also very high. And so literally some of these positions are so demanding on the

these positions are so demanding on the body that in order to maintain this

body that in order to maintain this position, you you have to have will. You

position, you you have to have will. You need to create something about yourself

need to create something about yourself where you are pushing

where you are pushing yourself and this is uh when when we

yourself and this is uh when when we have time I show you the exercise.

have time I show you the exercise. Yes. And this is why I do it.

Yes. And this is why I do it. So how important is that for everybody's

So how important is that for everybody's life to do hard things do you think?

life to do hard things do you think? Because it's very easy not to do hard

Because it's very easy not to do hard things in the comfort world we live in.

things in the comfort world we live in. when I mention it and then you directly

when I mention it and then you directly look up in a way to me or any

look up in a way to me or any professionals who then do this type of

professionals who then do this type of training. Of course, it's it's it's it's

training. Of course, it's it's it's it's it's beyond any normal person's

it's beyond any normal person's abilities. But it's not about you need

abilities. But it's not about you need to learn and do the hard stuff like

to learn and do the hard stuff like this. But one thing is for

this. But one thing is for sure. This

sure. This lifetime living a life as a human

definitely is not easy. Let's put it like

easy. Let's put it like this. Living this lifetime is not easy.

this. Living this lifetime is not easy. The more wishes you have, the more

The more wishes you have, the more difficult it becomes. The more ambitious

difficult it becomes. The more ambitious you are, the more the more you will have

you are, the more the more you will have to face. So bottom line

to face. So bottom line is I do think that in the moment where

is I do think that in the moment where you just on a regular

you just on a regular basis put yourself

basis put yourself consciously and

consciously and willingly in different situations and

willingly in different situations and circumstances that actually represent a

circumstances that actually represent a little bit the structures of

little bit the structures of life. There are moments in this lifetime

life. There are moments in this lifetime where you are going to be super tense,

where you are going to be super tense, super

super tense. And then it's good to know

tense. And then it's good to know already how does it feel and what is it

already how does it feel and what is it that you can do well to learn and

that you can do well to learn and release the tension. That's why

release the tension. That's why releasing tension is also a big part of

releasing tension is also a big part of of the exercises. The one thing is

of the exercises. The one thing is learning to release tension. The other

learning to release tension. The other thing is like when you are too sloppy,

thing is like when you are too sloppy, when you're too slacky, how to increase

when you're too slacky, how to increase your tension, how to increase the energy

your tension, how to increase the energy level again for you to get into back

level again for you to get into back into structure again.

into structure again. So there's always this balance and

So there's always this balance and ultimately how does it help people to

ultimately how does it help people to know the hard stuff? Well, because I do

know the hard stuff? Well, because I do think that it is symbolizing this way of

think that it is symbolizing this way of life. It is symbolizing the patterns of

life. It is symbolizing the patterns of what you are going to go through in this

what you are going to go through in this lifetime. And so you're almost training

lifetime. And so you're almost training to do hard things because hard things

to do hard things because hard things are an inevitability of the life we

are an inevitability of the life we live.

in this training that I went through. Yeah, for for the moment maybe take all

Yeah, for for the moment maybe take all the spiritual part out. Simply the kung

the spiritual part out. Simply the kung fu training, the Shaolin kung fu

fu training, the Shaolin kung fu training. There is a saying which is

training. There is a saying which is Shaolin kung fu literally means walking

Shaolin kung fu literally means walking through the valley of

through the valley of pain. So what does it mean? When you are

pain. So what does it mean? When you are doing stretching, stretching,

doing stretching, stretching, stretching, stretching, it's going to be

stretching, stretching, it's going to be painful. When you are doing strength

painful. When you are doing strength training is going to be painful. When

training is going to be painful. When you do conditioning training, it's going

you do conditioning training, it's going to be painful.

to be painful. So the whole path on this martial art

So the whole path on this martial art journey, it is just filled with working

journey, it is just filled with working yourself up to the level of where it

yourself up to the level of where it feels

feels uncomfortable. Getting some consistency

uncomfortable. Getting some consistency into the practice until the point where

into the practice until the point where that uncomfortable feeling just started

that uncomfortable feeling just started disappearing. Why? Because somehow you

disappearing. Why? Because somehow you broke that initial comfort zone. So but

broke that initial comfort zone. So but then it doesn't end. Now next

then it doesn't end. Now next level until you're building up first of

level until you're building up first of all yeah whatever we're doing later on I

all yeah whatever we're doing later on I will show you some practices is not that

will show you some practices is not that I do not feel pain I also feel pain

I do not feel pain I also feel pain maybe I feel it

later but the essential part is that my connection my relation between the pain

connection my relation between the pain of the body towards what would it affect

of the body towards what would it affect in the way of how I take make decisions.

in the way of how I take make decisions. That is a different

one. I feel the pain but at the moment I feel the pain but I see no necessity to

feel the pain but I see no necessity to still change something about my way

still change something about my way right now. Why? Because I can take the

right now. Why? Because I can take the pain. Whereas when you are not used to

pain. Whereas when you are not used to this pain, you feel it and then it tells

this pain, you feel it and then it tells you let's say it's painful. The mind

you let's say it's painful. The mind okay is not good. And so you directly

okay is not good. And so you directly change something. And this is and this

change something. And this is and this is just the difference. So it's not that

is just the difference. So it's not that I became numb. No, I just feel there is

I became numb. No, I just feel there is an additional layer that I can observe

an additional layer that I can observe about myself. It is

painful, but it's okay for right now. And that's a a habit you've learned, I

And that's a a habit you've learned, I guess, over time. That's a process

guess, over time. That's a process you've learned, which is you still have

you've learned, which is you still have the same stimulus, the same feeling, but

the same stimulus, the same feeling, but you tell yourself, you've learned to

you tell yourself, you've learned to tell yourself a different story about

tell yourself a different story about that feeling or you've turned you

that feeling or you've turned you believe something differently about that

believe something differently about that feeling. Many people would feel the pain

feeling. Many people would feel the pain of I don't know starting a new career

of I don't know starting a new career journey, starting a business, whatever

journey, starting a business, whatever might be painful and they would tell

might be painful and they would tell themselves the story that that means

themselves the story that that means they are not good enough or they

they are not good enough or they shouldn't do it or that it's a threat

shouldn't do it or that it's a threat and they might stop. Whereas because

and they might stop. Whereas because you've cultivated this new relationship

you've cultivated this new relationship with pain, you're able to do these

with pain, you're able to do these things and tell yourself a better story.

things and tell yourself a better story. I spent my

I spent my lifetime for for some part to really

lifetime for for some part to really wanting to build up my body and build up

wanting to build up my body and build up the skills related to the field of

the skills related to the field of martial arts. So I want to build this

martial arts. So I want to build this up. Other people want to build up their

up. Other people want to build up their business. I do think there is something

business. I do think there is something similar in the way of building up. When

similar in the way of building up. When I build up my body, how do I really

I build up my body, how do I really build up? How do I make my body grow?

build up? How do I make my body grow? It only works if I find

It only works if I find a continuous way of exposing my body to

a continuous way of exposing my body to situations outside of the comfort zone

situations outside of the comfort zone of what I know. Elsewise, it wouldn't be

of what I know. Elsewise, it wouldn't be called growth. If I every day just do

called growth. If I every day just do something towards the body that the body

something towards the body that the body already knows how to do, there's nothing

already knows how to do, there's nothing growing.

growing. So the idea of understanding where is

So the idea of understanding where is the comfort zone of my body then on a

the comfort zone of my body then on a regular basis very little must not be a

regular basis very little must not be a big jump but very little extending this

big jump but very little extending this comfort zone until the body naturally

comfort zone until the body naturally takes it as a habit in raising the bar

takes it as a habit in raising the bar of where your comfort zone actually is.

of where your comfort zone actually is. Always a little bit. Always a little

Always a little bit. Always a little bit. Always a little. But this only is

bit. Always a little. But this only is possible I think

possible I think by well what's called going over your

by well what's called going over your limits. But now comes the thing. You can

limits. But now comes the thing. You can go over the limits by really

go over the limits by really exaggerating and risking to be injured

exaggerating and risking to be injured or you make the idea of going going over

or you make the idea of going going over the limit

the limit consciously aware carefully. still going

consciously aware carefully. still going over the limit but in a in a still

over the limit but in a in a still controlled way. Let's say you know it's

controlled way. Let's say you know it's the limit now but at the same time at

the limit now but at the same time at some point you also realize our bodies

some point you also realize our bodies our mind is so intelligent before the

our mind is so intelligent before the when we are stretching at some point you

when we are stretching at some point you feel like everything's going to rip

feel like everything's going to rip apart but I know and this is why if we

apart but I know and this is why if we would stretch even though you say ah it

would stretch even though you say ah it hurts I know we can still go more yeah

hurts I know we can still go more yeah you think but I just know yeah because

you think but I just know yeah because your body is so intelligent that before

your body is so intelligent that before something serious really happens, he

something serious really happens, he tells you way before that that be

tells you way before that that be careful. And this figuring out where

careful. And this figuring out where where is really this limit. This is that

where is really this limit. This is that this is what makes the difference. There

this is what makes the difference. There is a limit. Yes. But but this limit

is a limit. Yes. But but this limit still has

still has a has like a range of where we can still

a has like a range of where we can still move inside. Yes. And I do think that

move inside. Yes. And I do think that this as a general line applies to

this as a general line applies to everything if you want to grow and step

everything if you want to grow and step by step by doing

by step by doing so the comfort

so the comfort zone

zone extends. So how is something new

extends. So how is something new supposed to enter into your life? Well,

supposed to enter into your life? Well, there's only one way exactly the way

there's only one way exactly the way that many people are also afraid of

that many people are also afraid of right

right now. Go into the unknown.

now. Go into the unknown. But that's exactly what it is. If this

But that's exactly what it is. If this table is our comfort zone and you just

table is our comfort zone and you just stay on here, you will never know how

stay on here, you will never know how beautiful London streets are. If you

beautiful London streets are. If you just stay here, you need to go into the

just stay here, you need to go into the unknown. You need to slowly walk your

unknown. You need to slowly walk your find your way out here.

find your way out here. But that means

But that means that going into the uncertainty is

that going into the uncertainty is nothing

nothing bad for me. I'm really really happy

bad for me. I'm really really happy uncertainty is existing in this world

uncertainty is existing in this world cuz I cannot imagine how boring it would

cuz I cannot imagine how boring it would be if I would already know with

be if I would already know with certainty where I'm going to be in 20

certainty where I'm going to be in 20 years.

years. Is there something practical one can do

Is there something practical one can do to get better at stepping outside of

to get better at stepping outside of their comfort zone? Because in our or

their comfort zone? Because in our or everyday lives, stepping outside of our

everyday lives, stepping outside of our comfort zone might just mean putting our

comfort zone might just mean putting our hand up in a meeting or doing a public

hand up in a meeting or doing a public talk or starting a Instagram page for

talk or starting a Instagram page for our cupcakes or it could be small

our cupcakes or it could be small things. It could be learning how to run.

things. It could be learning how to run. What's the first sort of small step one

What's the first sort of small step one should take to develop that habit of

should take to develop that habit of being okay in the uncertainty of our

being okay in the uncertainty of our growth zone? Some people

say just start reading. I do think that people who do

reading. I do think that people who do like reading this is something meaning

like reading this is something meaning always look for something new to

always look for something new to learn. Always realize that the the

learn. Always realize that the the things able to still be discovered is

things able to still be discovered is way bigger than what you think you know.

way bigger than what you think you know. And that means exactly the way of how

And that means exactly the way of how you also describe it now. Exactly. The

you also describe it now. Exactly. The last 20 times you stayed quiet the next

last 20 times you stayed quiet the next time you raise your

hand. Whatever it is, just don't stay in the old patterns. Break the cycle.

the old patterns. Break the cycle. This is where where I would say a great

This is where where I would say a great potential lies in

potential lies in the thing that holds us back is fear.

the thing that holds us back is fear. Yes. How how do we overcome that fear?

Yes. How how do we overcome that fear? So am I fearless?

So am I fearless? No. Do I fear a lot of things? No.

I do think there's only one thing that ultimately makes you break free from

is to find a way and wake up from the

dream. You don't take things too seriously in this lifetime.

to just change. Let's put like this change your

perspective rationalize things if you like it's similar like fear and worry.

Yes. Oh, at least when I look at my worries I

Oh, at least when I look at my worries I had in the last months.

had in the last months. Well, for sure 80% 90% of all the

Well, for sure 80% 90% of all the worries just didn't happen in the first

worries just didn't happen in the first place. 10% might somehow came true. But

place. 10% might somehow came true. But then again, I asked myself, good. So the

then again, I asked myself, good. So the 10% that came true, even though I had

10% that came true, even though I had the worries, what could I do about it?

the worries, what could I do about it? Coming to the

Coming to the conclusion,

conclusion, nothing.

nothing. Nothing, you know. And then something

Nothing, you know. And then something just really started to to shift inside

just really started to to shift inside of me where I

of me where I literally let go of

literally let go of something. Let go of this

something. Let go of this idea that that everything is

idea that that everything is like is like onedirectional. That

like is like onedirectional. That everything that you're going to

everything that you're going to encounter in this lifetime is going to

encounter in this lifetime is going to be beautiful. Everything in this

be beautiful. Everything in this lifetime is going to be peaceful.

lifetime is going to be peaceful. everybody you're going to meet along

everybody you're going to meet along your journey is going to be wellhearted

your journey is going to be wellhearted towards you. No, it's

towards you. No, it's not. Because in the moment where you

not. Because in the moment where you have well-hearted people, you have

have well-hearted people, you have illwilled people. And in the moment

illwilled people. And in the moment where there is success, where you want

where there is success, where you want to be part of the success story, you're

to be part of the success story, you're going to be part of the failing story.

going to be part of the failing story. And in the moment where you want to be

And in the moment where you want to be part of the light story, you're going to

part of the light story, you're going to be part of the dark story.

be part of the dark story. This is how it

is. This is the world of what we call it's the world of yin and yang. This is

it's the world of yin and yang. This is the world of birth and

the world of birth and death, of

death, of aging and sickness.

And this and this is why in the in the ancient traditions more and more even

ancient traditions more and more even nowadays why why in the first place

nowadays why why in the first place there is this whole idea about

there is this whole idea about liberating yourself breaking free and

liberating yourself breaking free and and and all of these

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hindrances and the first of those was the sensual desires which we talked

the sensual desires which we talked about and the second was ill will. The

about and the second was ill will. The third is dullness, lack of motivation to

third is dullness, lack of motivation to move forward in life and the fourth is

move forward in life and the fourth is restlessness, unable to focus on the

restlessness, unable to focus on the present moment and the fifth is

present moment and the fifth is skeptical doubt, indecisiveness and not

skeptical doubt, indecisiveness and not trusting yourself. And to overcome the

trusting yourself. And to overcome the five

five hindrances, you recommend the four-step

hindrances, you recommend the four-step rain method. What is the four-step rain

rain method. What is the four-step rain method? Yes, I do think it's called rain

method? Yes, I do think it's called rain method. That has also been taught to me

method. That has also been taught to me because it's easy to remember. What is

because it's easy to remember. What is it that you're supposed to do? Like I

it that you're supposed to do? Like I said, in this context of putting it

said, in this context of putting it simple, you have set yourself a goal.

simple, you have set yourself a goal. There are five mental states that could

There are five mental states that could make it difficult for you to reach that

make it difficult for you to reach that goal. Those five mental states are these

goal. Those five mental states are these five hindrances. Yes. Could you read

five hindrances. Yes. Could you read those out for me again? So sensory

those out for me again? So sensory desire, sensual desire here, ill will,

desire, sensual desire here, ill will, dullness, sloth topper or restlessness

dullness, sloth topper or restlessness and then ultimately uh indecisiveness or

and then ultimately uh indecisiveness or self-doubt. Okay.

Now what does the rain method tell you? Number one, it tells you with the R,

Number one, it tells you with the R, recognize. Recognize or

recognize. Recognize or realize. So along your journey, every

realize. So along your journey, every day just sitting somewhere

day just sitting somewhere contemplating, learn to realize in which

contemplating, learn to realize in which mental state are you actually finding

mental state are you actually finding yourself right now. This is just the

yourself right now. This is just the recognition, the realization of where

recognition, the realization of where you

you are. The A stands for acknowledge or

are. The A stands for acknowledge or acceptance.

acceptance. So even you know the second one was

So even you know the second one was called ill will or actually it's called

called ill will or actually it's called aversion. So denying something pushing

aversion. So denying something pushing something away from you very important

something away from you very important right now same here you recognize

right now same here you recognize something inside of you about you of

something inside of you about you of course second one accepting it

course second one accepting it acknowledging it is

important. Yes. I meaning now investigation.

investigation. investigation meaning okay I see I

am I see I'm dull I see I'm like like or I see I'm

I see I'm restless okay I accept that I have this

restless okay I accept that I have this feeling right now investigation meaning

feeling right now investigation meaning okay what is it like how did I get into

okay what is it like how did I get into this state have I been there this

this state have I been there this morning already in that state of being

morning already in that state of being no this morning I really felt

no this morning I really felt So what happened now since the morning

So what happened now since the morning until now that put me in this state of

until now that put me in this state of restlessness to who did I talk to? Was

restlessness to who did I talk to? Was it a message that I received? What is it

it a message that I received? What is it ultimately that led to this feeling of

ultimately that led to this feeling of restlessness? So really

restlessness? So really investigating like like a detector

investigating like like a detector investigating.

investigating. So and ultimately then the n difficult

So and ultimately then the n difficult one but it is standing for

one but it is standing for nonidentification.

So, and nonidentification meaning I mentioned it

meaning I mentioned it before even if you just use it as a

before even if you just use it as a picture right now as a concept if you

picture right now as a concept if you want

want but try not to identify your being too

but try not to identify your being too much with your body and too much with

much with your body and too much with the mind. And if you don't identify with

the mind. And if you don't identify with the body and not identify yourself too

the body and not identify yourself too much with the mind also you do not

much with the mind also you do not identify yourself too much with all the

identify yourself too much with all the things that you investigated that you

things that you investigated that you felt like were nourishing your

felt like were nourishing your restlessness.

restlessness. If you had one last message to

If you had one last message to share and that message

share and that message was a message you had to share for your

was a message you had to share for your son because one day the inevitability of

son because one day the inevitability of life means that you do have to have one

life means that you do have to have one last conversation and we don't always

last conversation and we don't always get to choose what that one last

get to choose what that one last conversation is but if you do get to

conversation is but if you do get to choose that last conversation with your

choose that last conversation with your 3mony yearear-old son once he's able to

3mony yearear-old son once he's able to process it a little bit better say he

process it a little bit better say he was 18 years old what would that message

was 18 years old what would that message Okay. Concepts are concepts. Theories

Okay. Concepts are concepts. Theories are theories. Be careful or be aware of

are theories. Be careful or be aware of what you are keeping or what are you

what you are keeping or what are you nourishing in the

nourishing in the mind. Never restrict yourself to any

mind. Never restrict yourself to any concept. Never restrict yourself to any

concept. Never restrict yourself to any identity. Never restrict yourself to any

identity. Never restrict yourself to any type of role.

What you create you

create you create and you can create quite a lot of

things. Yeah. Something along these lines

Yeah. Something along these lines probably. I read that when you lost your

probably. I read that when you lost your father that had quite a profound impact

father that had quite a profound impact on your life and

on your life and your I guess your way of understanding

your I guess your way of understanding the world. Your father passed away from

the world. Your father passed away from cancer when you were sort of roughly 28

cancer when you were sort of roughly 28 years old. It was roughly around

2012. And this I read gave you a deeper sense of

sense of purpose. H how how did that impact you

purpose. H how how did that impact you as a man?

as a man? Yeah. See just imagine

Yeah. See just imagine like when I talked before about enduring

like when I talked before about enduring things going through my childhood

things going through my childhood and always receiving let's say to to

and always receiving let's say to to never be enough but still I mean still I

never be enough but still I mean still I had this internal fire going to still

had this internal fire going to still always give my best but for the sake of

always give my best but for the sake of my

my parents and so yeah from the age of four

parents and so yeah from the age of four elementary school give your best high

elementary school give your best high school give your best studying give your

school give your best studying give your best study again okay I do again so all

best study again okay I do again so all the time not because I necessarily

the time not because I necessarily wanted all of this it's because for the

wanted all of this it's because for the sake of my parents for the sake of they

sake of my parents for the sake of they are the ones who allowed me in the first

are the ones who allowed me in the first place to in a way be alive yeah also

place to in a way be alive yeah also thanks to them so this was in a way um

thanks to them so this was in a way um my expression of what they say as long

my expression of what they say as long as they are alive I listen to them so

as they are alive I listen to them so and then you know walking all the way up

and then you know walking all the way up to this this academic education then

to this this academic education then finally graduating like

finally graduating like after 20

after 20 years. Yeah. And then I just returned

years. Yeah. And then I just returned from the graduation back to back to

from the graduation back to back to Kaiser Slot and the city where I lived

Kaiser Slot and the city where I lived and that was the last year uh I spent

and that was the last year uh I spent with my father. Yeah.

with my father. Yeah. So literally meaning

So literally meaning uh spending so many years in this

uh spending so many years in this academic education for my

academic education for my father and now he's not even there to

father and now he's not even there to witness that it has been done for him.

witness that it has been done for him. Now, this was like a a point where I

Now, this was like a a point where I thought

yeah, this was the one area that uh that stuck somehow a little bit hard. And

stuck somehow a little bit hard. And then the next things yeah I call it

then the next things yeah I call it maybe small but it's not so small

maybe small but it's not so small apparently because um I grew up in let's

apparently because um I grew up in let's say this Asian tradition with let's say

say this Asian tradition with let's say different type of beliefs or rituals or

different type of beliefs or rituals or ceremonies that we do. One of these

ceremonies that we do. One of these things was that when my father was still

things was that when my father was still uh lying in hospital and it was clear

uh lying in hospital and it was clear that it's just going to take a few days

that it's just going to take a few days until he would pass away.

until he would pass away. He for example also said well he only

He for example also said well he only said it to me because you know I I would

said it to me because you know I I would be the only one who is able to do it.

be the only one who is able to do it. Don't cry for

me because he couldn't say to my mother she cannot handle it.

she cannot handle it. couldn't say to my

brother. Yeah. But because I trust in the I trust in

because I trust in the I trust in the in the tradition the reason why not

the in the tradition the reason why not to cry when my father pass away. Yes.

to cry when my father pass away. Yes. Because we do think the body is there.

Because we do think the body is there. The body passes away. The spirit sets

The body passes away. The spirit sets itself free. And when the spirit simply

itself free. And when the spirit simply realize that all the sons are there, the

realize that all the sons are there, the family is there crying. The spirit in a

family is there crying. The spirit in a way is still bound to this realm, bound

way is still bound to this realm, bound to the earth's realm, let's say. And in

to the earth's realm, let's say. And in order to be able to help my father

order to be able to help my father actually to get on

actually to get on a to move on quicker, to move on

a to move on quicker, to move on quicker, that was the reason why it is

quicker, that was the reason why it is sometimes so important to don't show any

sometimes so important to don't show any grief in the moment when a beloved one

grief in the moment when a beloved one like passes

like passes away. Yeah. But all of these things.

away. Yeah. But all of these things. Yeah. No,

Yeah. No, like spending so many years for my

like spending so many years for my father, then he's not there to realize

father, then he's not there to realize it, then not being able to cry, and

it, then not being able to cry, and then being in all this very very hard

then being in all this very very hard field and always

field and always like overachieving

like overachieving and no problem working 16 hours a day.

and no problem working 16 hours a day. Well, these are all the things that made

Well, these are all the things that made it possible to be where I am right

it possible to be where I am right now. But at the same time, I just do

now. But at the same time, I just do feel like especially in the moment now

feel like especially in the moment now when when my son started to come and all

when when my son started to come and all of these things, um I just felt like

of these things, um I just felt like there's a lot blocked

there or there's a lot that still needs to be released for the sake of my son.

what is it you needed and when did you need it? I would call it

need it? I would call it recognition. Being recognized by my

recognition. Being recognized by my father at some

father at some point to finally somehow say you you did

point to finally somehow say you you did well is

well is enough. But it didn't come until today.

enough. But it didn't come until today. So I still keep

going. I never heard it from my father. From my mother I also don't hear

father. From my mother I also don't hear it. Well maybe in a different way but I

it. Well maybe in a different way but I do

do think it is the father's

think it is the father's recognition that you probably aim for.

recognition that you probably aim for. So these are absolutely things that do

So these are absolutely things that do shape my character for sure.

Many people will be able to relate in their own ways and maybe their parents

their own ways and maybe their parents have now passed on or are no longer with

have now passed on or are no longer with us. So I'm wondering if there is a way

us. So I'm wondering if there is a way to hear it from

to hear it from yourself. Yes, there

yourself. Yes, there is. There

is. There is. And again, this leads to the fact of

is. And again, this leads to the fact of sometimes it's very very helpful to

sometimes it's very very helpful to really shut the world, shut the world

really shut the world, shut the world out of you and spend time with

out of you and spend time with yourself and actually create what you

yourself and actually create what you think you were missing there. Create it

think you were missing there. Create it cuz you're the one who creates it.

cuz you're the one who creates it. That's exactly what I do

That's exactly what I do think

think that when you we were speaking about it

that when you we were speaking about it right now of course we could say that

right now of course we could say that what is it that I was looking for from

what is it that I was looking for from my father fact is is not I'm not going

my father fact is is not I'm not going to hear it from him anymore so I need to

to hear it from him anymore so I need to hear it of course by

hear it of course by myself and this is where it comes to all

myself and this is where it comes to all these type of practices and methods that

these type of practices and methods that many specialists now they also like

many specialists now they also like emphasizing regardless of how you call

emphasizing regardless of how you call them.

them. Yeah. And what are those sentences in

Yeah. And what are those sentences in particular that if

particular that if I if I was your

father you would want me to say to you right

right now? Well, something

now? Well, something like you did well. You did

enough. I see what you are doing. But now take your energy back.

and give it to your son. Give him everything that you feel

son. Give him everything that you feel you didn't receive from

me. And if you heard those words from him, how do you think he would change?

I do think there will be change and I do think there is already

change and I do think there is already change. Yeah. And this is maybe like the

change. Yeah. And this is maybe like the part where like specialists now they

part where like specialists now they would say it's not necessarily an area

would say it's not necessarily an area of the conscious mind. I do think that

of the conscious mind. I do think that these are talks right now more dealing

these are talks right now more dealing with

with subconsciously is stored inside our our

subconsciously is stored inside our our let's say in our mind. I think this is

let's say in our mind. I think this is where it plays a role. No especially

where it plays a role. No especially when it's about patterns that come up.

when it's about patterns that come up. It's not consciously when you're

It's not consciously when you're conscious enough you can regulate

conscious enough you can regulate already a lot. It's the subconscious

already a lot. It's the subconscious things that you are not aware of that

things that you are not aware of that are still a part of your life. And if

are still a part of your life. And if you wouldn't have cuh asked about my

father, I wouldn't even think about him for one month is all not a problem.

for one month is all not a problem. Yeah. But I do still think that these

Yeah. But I do still think that these are like very very deep layers that just

are like very very deep layers that just translate a

translate a lot unconsciously into the way of of

lot unconsciously into the way of of doing things in way of how I see things

doing things in way of how I see things also and this is where I feel like it

also and this is where I feel like it probably would help. Have you grieved

probably would help. Have you grieved his passing?

his passing? Yes.

Yes. I do think at at some extent when the when the 49 days that's the period

the when the 49 days that's the period of where it's normally said don't grief

of where it's normally said don't grief at that time 49

at that time 49 days afterwards I did

yes but probably there's still a lot more to

release. you've written this wonderful book which describes the way to

book which describes the way to selfmastery and it's um it's a really

selfmastery and it's um it's a really transformative book that I highly

transformative book that I highly recommend everybody checks out. I'm

recommend everybody checks out. I'm going to link it below. When we talk

going to link it below. When we talk about

about selfmastery, what is it you mean? What

selfmastery, what is it you mean? What is it to master

is it to master oneself? So, growing up like I said in

oneself? So, growing up like I said in this field of martial arts, I met a lot

this field of martial arts, I met a lot of masters. I lot met a lot of

of masters. I lot met a lot of grandmasters. I always went looking for

grandmasters. I always went looking for other instructors, looking for somebody

other instructors, looking for somebody outside of myself to be a mentor, to be

outside of myself to be a mentor, to be a guide for

a guide for me. But at some point, always

realizing that everybody, no matter who it was, they possessed some type of

it was, they possessed some type of skill that I wanted to learn from them.

skill that I wanted to learn from them. But there was one thing that in a

But there was one thing that in a way none of them in a way could help me

way none of them in a way could help me with and that

with and that was how do I run my my own life. I can

was how do I run my my own life. I can learn skills from you. I can learn

learn skills from you. I can learn skills from here. I can improve in this

skills from here. I can improve in this area in this area. But putting all these

area in this area. But putting all these skills, putting all these knowledge,

skills, putting all these knowledge, putting all the advice, putting it into

putting all the advice, putting it into a structure, into a frame, and then to

a structure, into a frame, and then to run my own life with it. There's only

run my own life with it. There's only one person who can do

one person who can do this,

this, yourself. So, and this is where I meant

yourself. So, and this is where I meant that don't rely on a master for him to

that don't rely on a master for him to run your life. Don't rely on a mentor, a

run your life. Don't rely on a mentor, a guide, whatever to run your

guide, whatever to run your life. This whole journey is about you

life. This whole journey is about you learn and acquire the skills and acquire

learn and acquire the skills and acquire the knowledge and acquire whatever you

the knowledge and acquire whatever you think is

think is necessary to bring out the best version.

necessary to bring out the best version. Let's call it like this. the best

Let's call it like this. the best version, the best

version, the best refined potential about about yourself,

refined potential about about yourself, about what you believe you are capable

about what you believe you are capable of bringing out about

of bringing out about yourself. Meaning the master is already

yourself. Meaning the master is already sitting inside of each

sitting inside of each individual. It's just that we don't

individual. It's just that we don't nourish that master inside of us enough.

nourish that master inside of us enough. And who in particular at this moment in

And who in particular at this moment in time do you believe would benefit most

time do you believe would benefit most from the message inside the covers of

from the message inside the covers of this book?

this book? The more you feel like that your

The more you feel like that your [Music]

[Music] um that that your well-being about

um that that your well-being about yourself is being dependent on any third

yourself is being dependent on any third parties anything outsourced. So if the

parties anything outsourced. So if the government you feel like if any decision

government you feel like if any decision from the government affects you, read

from the government affects you, read the book. If like your colleagues at

the book. If like your colleagues at work affect you by what they say and

work affect you by what they say and what they

what they think, that's also something. Every time

think, that's also something. Every time when you have the feeling your

when you have the feeling your well-being is dependent on something

well-being is dependent on something that you feel you have no influence

that you feel you have no influence in because this is exactly this is the

in because this is exactly this is the antidote. This book is literally telling

you don't outsource your well-being to anything that you

anything that you cannot influence or

cannot influence or control. Which literally

control. Which literally means place the

means place the emphasis and the foundation of your

emphasis and the foundation of your well-being only on things that you have

well-being only on things that you have influence on. And which one is that?

influence on. And which one is that? your body and your mind. Of all the

your body and your mind. Of all the things we've discussed today, is there

things we've discussed today, is there anything anything at all that you

anything anything at all that you think is the most important thing that

think is the most important thing that we missed for the for the person that's

we missed for the for the person that's sat there at home and I'll give you a

sat there at home and I'll give you a persona of the person. They are they're

persona of the person. They are they're feeling a little bit lost in their life.

feeling a little bit lost in their life. They're feeling like they could do more.

They're feeling like they could do more. They're maybe lacking in purpose and

They're maybe lacking in purpose and meaning in their life a little bit. um

meaning in their life a little bit. um they're struggling in various areas with

they're struggling in various areas with their relationships, maybe a little bit

their relationships, maybe a little bit with work, and they're feeling the the

with work, and they're feeling the the normal pressures of life that we all we

normal pressures of life that we all we all feel. Is there anything for that

all feel. Is there anything for that person that's listening now and that's

person that's listening now and that's gotten this far in the conversation that

gotten this far in the conversation that you might say in their ear right now?

you might say in their ear right now? It's sometimes really nice to see the

It's sometimes really nice to see the why I

why I to see the full

to see the full picture. The full picture of me is I

picture. The full picture of me is I didn't start like being on the cover of

didn't start like being on the cover of the book. I didn't start like having all

the book. I didn't start like having all the abilities and skills that I have

the abilities and skills that I have nowadays. I didn't start with all the

nowadays. I didn't start with all the social media channels as they are right

social media channels as they are right now. I started actually in the poorest

now. I started actually in the poorest area of that city in Kaiser Slouten that

area of that city in Kaiser Slouten that until today is known to be like the area

until today is known to be like the area where people do not like to go. This is

where people do not like to go. This is where I come out

where I come out from. So was my life always easy? Well,

from. So was my life always easy? Well, I don't think so.

But there are just a few fundamental things

things that meanwhile after like 40 years

that meanwhile after like 40 years meeting people, talking with people,

meeting people, talking with people, looking into the world, being able to

looking into the world, being able to actually see some type of structures in

actually see some type of structures in the world, I do believe that what you

the world, I do believe that what you might call successful people or people

might call successful people or people that somehow made it in whatever way you

that somehow made it in whatever way you think is made it, I do think they have

think is made it, I do think they have something in common there is something

something in common there is something in common amongst them. Okay. So and one

in common amongst them. Okay. So and one thing that I would definitely say

is to really be able to endure is one

endure is one area really having that persistence even

area really having that persistence even so okay today is not working everything

so okay today is not working everything goes wrong. Yeah.

goes wrong. Yeah. like not like cutting it off like

like not like cutting it off like suddenly but this type of persistence

suddenly but this type of persistence and consistency like just knowing and

and consistency like just knowing and trusting. Okay, let's do it

trusting. Okay, let's do it again. So literally trial and

again. So literally trial and error, hard times, good

error, hard times, good times to just understand that this life

times to just understand that this life is like this up and down. There is a up

is like this up and down. There is a up and down. The one the success doesn't

and down. The one the success doesn't come without the failure. The brightness

come without the failure. The brightness right now that is being seen from

right now that is being seen from people. Yeah. But there's another side

people. Yeah. But there's another side that that built the foundation for

that that built the foundation for people nowadays to to

people nowadays to to shine. Yeah. And just to understand a

shine. Yeah. And just to understand a lot of things is possible but it's never

onedirectional. Yeah. And now to put things really literally

And now to put things really literally into practice, one of the easiest

into practice, one of the easiest things, how do I know what should be the

things, how do I know what should be the next? What should I do tomorrow? What

next? What should I do tomorrow? What should I do tomorrow?

Okay, look at yourself and ask yourself what is the most disturbing whatever it

what is the most disturbing whatever it is from the last week in your

is from the last week in your life. What is disturbing you about your

life. What is disturbing you about your life the most from the last week?

You can even extend it to what is it which emotional state is it that

which emotional state is it that followed you primarily in the last one

followed you primarily in the last one month.

month. So and then maybe investigating again

So and then maybe investigating again okay what is it that brings up that

okay what is it that brings up that emotion that state inside of you? What

emotion that state inside of you? What is is it somebody who triggers it? Is it

is is it somebody who triggers it? Is it something that triggers it? So really

something that triggers it? So really boil it down to the point that you

boil it down to the point that you actually

actually see this is what blocks me right now in

see this is what blocks me right now in my life. This is literally what blocks

my life. This is literally what blocks me in my life. I want to move into the

me in my life. I want to move into the future, but this here it follows me. It

future, but this here it follows me. It blocks me. It takes my energy. It's this

blocks me. It takes my energy. It's this one. I can literally see it. No, that is

one. I can literally see it. No, that is the one. Now invest all of the energy to

the one. Now invest all of the energy to figure out the solution for this

figure out the solution for this one. Because if you took care of this

one. Because if you took care of this already the last half year, the chances

already the last half year, the chances are very very high. You're going to have

are very very high. You're going to have it the next half year, which means

it the next half year, which means you're going to have it already for one

you're going to have it already for one year. And if you do nothing about it,

year. And if you do nothing about it, it's going to be two years. And it's

it's going to be two years. And it's going to be three years. And in three

going to be three years. And in three years, you still sit there and complain

years, you still sit there and complain that you were not able to move on. Yes.

that you were not able to move on. Yes. because it's the same pattern and it is

because it's the same pattern and it is the same

the same hindrance still in the life and this is

hindrance still in the life and this is for example how I know what is my next

for example how I know what is my next area of

area of um of

um of development the one that let's say

development the one that let's say shakes me the most at the moment if I

shakes me the most at the moment if I think about literally I think about is

think about literally I think about is it something in the business area that

it something in the business area that shakes me no is it something in the

shakes me no is it something in the family area that shakes me No, is it

family area that shakes me No, is it something in the in the relationship

something in the in the relationship area that and like this you find out

area that and like this you find out okay that is the next one let's tackle

okay that is the next one let's tackle it and and so and we will always find

it and and so and we will always find something that in a way like we would

something that in a way like we would say we could

say we could optimize and I do believe that in the

optimize and I do believe that in the moment where you say

moment where you say no I have

no I have arrived I think then there's really

arrived I think then there's really nothing to be

nothing to be done then just to be Sweet.

We have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest leaves a

podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest, not knowing

question for the next guest, not knowing who they're going to be leaving the

who they're going to be leaving the question

question for. And the question that has been left

for. And the question that has been left for you is,

for you is, uh, what is your greatest regret?

long, whatever I said and whatever decision I took in the last 40

decision I took in the last 40 years, I could always stand behind

years, I could always stand behind it. Yeah. I I pushed decisions through

it. Yeah. I I pushed decisions through and I gave I gave commence to to do it

and I gave I gave commence to to do it the way that I wanted

the way that I wanted because behind it my mind was always

because behind it my mind was always supporting all of

supporting all of this. Just in the recent months I had to

this. Just in the recent months I had to take a

take a decision. I would have wished to have a

decision. I would have wished to have a little bit more time to make it to make

little bit more time to make it to make the transition more pleasant but I

the transition more pleasant but I couldn't. I had no choice.

couldn't. I had no choice. And so despite of not feeling that it is

And so despite of not feeling that it is the right way to do it, I still had to

the right way to do it, I still had to do it. And this is what I regret. It's

do it. And this is what I regret. It's like firing someone, letting someone go

like firing someone, letting someone go kind of like this. Yes.

kind of like this. Yes. Thank you. Thank you so much for the

Thank you. Thank you so much for the message you're putting out into the

message you're putting out into the world because it's a increasingly

world because it's a increasingly necessary message because we're I think

necessary message because we're I think we're all searching for answers and for

we're all searching for answers and for a variety of different reasons. Um, and

a variety of different reasons. Um, and your message as I read it throughout the

your message as I read it throughout the book, the the striking thing about it is

book, the the striking thing about it is it's a simple one, but that doesn't mean

it's a simple one, but that doesn't mean it's an easy one, but it's a very, very

it's an easy one, but it's a very, very necessary one. And for anyone that does

necessary one. And for anyone that does relate to the things we've described to

relate to the things we've described to today and the situations we've described

today and the situations we've described that people are feeling at the moment,

that people are feeling at the moment, I'd highly recommend you give this book

I'd highly recommend you give this book a try. Um, because it is a completely

a try. Um, because it is a completely different message. So, thank you for

different message. So, thank you for writing such an incredible book and

writing such an incredible book and thank you for the wisdom that you've put

thank you for the wisdom that you've put out into the world. I highly recommend

out into the world. I highly recommend everybody goes and checks out your

everybody goes and checks out your YouTube channel um because there's much

YouTube channel um because there's much more content there and you're you're a

more content there and you're you're a real star on YouTube. Your TED talk is a

real star on YouTube. Your TED talk is a smash hit sensation that has changed

smash hit sensation that has changed millions of people's lives as well. So,

millions of people's lives as well. So, thank you again for your time today.

thank you again for your time today. It's been a huge honor. Thank you,

It's been a huge honor. Thank you, Stephen, for the invitation. Appreciate

Stephen, for the invitation. Appreciate it having this conversation. Thank you

it having this conversation. Thank you so much.

so much. I'm going to let you into a little bit

I'm going to let you into a little bit of a secret. You're probably going to

of a secret. You're probably going to think me and my team are a little bit

think me and my team are a little bit weird, but I can still remember to this

weird, but I can still remember to this day when Jamaima from my team posted on

day when Jamaima from my team posted on Slack that she'd changed the scent in

Slack that she'd changed the scent in this studio. And right after she posted

this studio. And right after she posted it, the entire office clapped in our

it, the entire office clapped in our Slack channel. And this might sound

Slack channel. And this might sound crazy, but at the Diary of SEO, this is

crazy, but at the Diary of SEO, this is the type of 1% improvement we make on

the type of 1% improvement we make on our show. And that is why the show is

our show. And that is why the show is the way it is. By understanding the

the way it is. By understanding the power of compounding 1%s, you can

power of compounding 1%s, you can absolutely change your outcomes in your

absolutely change your outcomes in your life. It isn't about drastic

life. It isn't about drastic transformations or quick wins. It's

transformations or quick wins. It's about the small consistent actions that

about the small consistent actions that have a lasting change in your outcomes.

have a lasting change in your outcomes. So two years ago we started the process

So two years ago we started the process of creating this beautiful diary and

of creating this beautiful diary and it's truly beautiful. Inside there's

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on, develop consistency with the 1%s that will ultimately change your life.

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