talking about, Elon said. That's why your roofs are [ __ ] and take so long to
your roofs are [ __ ] and take so long to install. So then this guy spends the
install. So then this guy spends the entire next day installing roofs. And
entire next day installing roofs. And then what Elon will do too is if
then what Elon will do too is if something's important, he sees a
something's important, he sees a problem, he will make sure that you're
problem, he will make sure that you're meeting about that problem every 24
meeting about that problem every 24 hours, him with him until it's fixed.
hours, him with him until it's fixed. And so just making this engineer install
And so just making this engineer install the roofs was a very valuable form of
the roofs was a very valuable form of education for the engineer. So even
education for the engineer. So even within the next 24 hours that the the
within the next 24 hours that the the next meeting they had went a lot better.
next meeting they had went a lot better. And then he makes sure that the guy
And then he makes sure that the guy keeps installing you know what he said
keeps installing you know what he said 20% of the time you should actually be
20% of the time you should actually be doing the actual work. And one of the
doing the actual work. And one of the reasons this is so important is because
reasons this is so important is because they'll see the problem with the design
they'll see the problem with the design and the engineering when they actually
and the engineering when they actually try to manufacture it to make it. And
try to manufacture it to make it. And then you also notice that his adherence
then you also notice that his adherence to the mission, his dedication to the
to the mission, his dedication to the mission, it's why he's he works, you
mission, it's why he's he works, you know, maniacally hard, but it's also why
know, maniacally hard, but it's also why he has a problem with developing
he has a problem with developing personal relationships. So his his
personal relationships. So his his ex-girlfriend Grimes actually writes a
ex-girlfriend Grimes actually writes a song about him. And the song, when you
song about him. And the song, when you read the lyrics, I think it's really
read the lyrics, I think it's really illustrative of Elon as a person. It's
illustrative of Elon as a person. It's called The Player of Games. And I think
called The Player of Games. And I think the most important line in the song is,
the most important line in the song is, "He'll always love the game more than he
"He'll always love the game more than he loves me." And I think that's why a lot
loves me." And I think that's why a lot of the founders that you and I cover on
of the founders that you and I cover on the podcast and we talk about like they
the podcast and we talk about like they have such they're not bred for domestic
have such they're not bred for domestic tranquility. They have a lot of problems
tranquility. They have a lot of problems maintaining long-term relationships.
maintaining long-term relationships. And then just in this random
And then just in this random conversation he was having it was
conversation he was having it was interested to hear Elon's take on like
interested to hear Elon's take on like okay you're running all these companies
okay you're running all these companies but like what which one is actually most
but like what which one is actually most important? And he said something that
important? And he said something that was very fascinating to me. He says
was very fascinating to me. He says building mass market electric cars was
building mass market electric cars was inevitable. It would have happened
inevitable. It would have happened without me. But becoming a space fairing
without me. But becoming a space fairing civilization is not inevitable. To me,
civilization is not inevitable. To me, it's like he's saying, SpaceX is the
it's like he's saying, SpaceX is the most important. In fact, one of my
most important. In fact, one of my favorite investments firms has a very
favorite investments firms has a very simple thesis. Invest only in things
simple thesis. Invest only in things that wouldn't happen without us. If we
that wouldn't happen without us. If we don't make this investment, it's not
don't make this investment, it's not going to happen. And what's fascinating
going to happen. And what's fascinating is if you look at their portfolio, it's
is if you look at their portfolio, it's insanely highly concentrated. Tiny
insanely highly concentrated. Tiny number of bets, but those bets are
number of bets, but those bets are massive. And I love the idea of us
massive. And I love the idea of us deciding on like what what are we going
deciding on like what what are we going to work on? Like what do we want to
to work on? Like what do we want to dedicate our life to? Dedicated to
dedicate our life to? Dedicated to something that wouldn't happen without
something that wouldn't happen without you is a very interesting organizing
you is a very interesting organizing principle to me. Back to Elon's idea
principle to me. Back to Elon's idea that if we are slow, we are dead. Again,
that if we are slow, we are dead. Again, just very straightforward, clear
just very straightforward, clear thinking. It was better to try and fail
thinking. It was better to try and fail rather than analyze the issue for
rather than analyze the issue for months. If you make this thing fast, you
months. If you make this thing fast, you can find out fast and then you can fix
can find out fast and then you can fix it fast. And so at the time, he's trying
it fast. And so at the time, he's trying to drastically simplify the Raptor
to drastically simplify the Raptor engine design, which there's this great
engine design, which there's this great picture. You could just Google, you
picture. You could just Google, you know, Raptor design over time and you
know, Raptor design over time and you see the actual application of his
see the actual application of his algorithm and his simplification and his
algorithm and his simplification and his deleting. It's just absolutely
deleting. It's just absolutely beautiful. But again, it goes back to
beautiful. But again, it goes back to like if it's important, Elon's going to
like if it's important, Elon's going to do it himself. Elon interviews and picks
do it himself. Elon interviews and picks the talent himself. Elon was looking for
the talent himself. Elon was looking for someone who might be able to oversee
someone who might be able to oversee Raptor Design. So, he started having one
Raptor Design. So, he started having one on-one sessions, peppering mid-level
on-one sessions, peppering mid-level engineers with questions. After a few
engineers with questions. After a few weeks, a young engineer began to stand
weeks, a young engineer began to stand out. And when you pick the person, what
out. And when you pick the person, what does he do? He starts to teach the
does he do? He starts to teach the person. He starts to indoctrinate the
person. He starts to indoctrinate the person to the algorithm. He's going to
person to the algorithm. He's going to repeat over and over again, you you need
repeat over and over again, you you need to keep everything together so the
to keep everything together so the feedback is immediate. He says, "I
feedback is immediate. He says, "I created separate design and production
created separate design and production groups a long time ago, and that was a
groups a long time ago, and that was a [ __ ] mistake. You are responsible
[ __ ] mistake. You are responsible for the production process. You cannot
for the production process. You cannot hand this off to someone else. If the
hand this off to someone else. If the design is expensive to produce, you
design is expensive to produce, you change the design. You move your desks
change the design. You move your desks next to the assembly line." And so he
next to the assembly line." And so he says later on that the people on the
says later on that the people on the assembly line should be able to
assembly line should be able to immediately collar a designer or an
immediately collar a designer or an engineer and say why the [ __ ] did you
engineer and say why the [ __ ] did you make it this way. It goes back to that
make it this way. It goes back to that idea what he said. If your hand is on
idea what he said. If your hand is on the stove and it gets hot, you pull it
the stove and it gets hot, you pull it off right away. But if it's someone
off right away. But if it's someone else's hand on the stove, it's going to
else's hand on the stove, it's going to take you longer to do something. Which
take you longer to do something. Which goes against the fact that he says and
goes against the fact that he says and repeats adnauseium over and over again,
repeats adnauseium over and over again, a maniacal sense of urgency is our
a maniacal sense of urgency is our operating principle. And so as they're
operating principle. And so as they're working on the engine design for one of
working on the engine design for one of his rockets, he sends this giant email
his rockets, he sends this giant email with exclamation points. We are on a
with exclamation points. We are on a deletion rampage. Nothing is sacred. Any
deletion rampage. Nothing is sacred. Any remotely questionable tubes, sensors,
remotely questionable tubes, sensors, manifolds, etc. will be deleted tonight.
manifolds, etc. will be deleted tonight. I just love this quote. Please go ultra
I just love this quote. Please go ultra hardcore on deletion and simplification.
hardcore on deletion and simplification. And it's obvious he's very difficult to
And it's obvious he's very difficult to deal with, but I think this next quote
deal with, but I think this next quote un it it illustrates like why you would
un it it illustrates like why you would want to do this. And I think very few
want to do this. And I think very few people are going to be able to spend
people are going to be able to spend their life working with him. You know,
their life working with him. You know, he's turning through people. There's a
he's turning through people. There's a lot of people, especially when they're
lot of people, especially when they're in like their 20s, they do really great
in like their 20s, they do really great and they're like, "Whoa, man. I got I
and they're like, "Whoa, man. I got I need some like more balance here as I
need some like more balance here as I get older." But I just love this
get older." But I just love this description of him. It says, "I noticed
description of him. It says, "I noticed that I learned more unique lessons from
that I learned more unique lessons from Elon per minute than any other human
Elon per minute than any other human I've met. It would be dumb to not spend
I've met. It would be dumb to not spend some of your life with such a person. So
some of your life with such a person. So again, you may not be able to last
again, you may not be able to last through all this, but you're going to
through all this, but you're going to learn a hell of a lot working with them.
learn a hell of a lot working with them. And then you can use those ideas and
And then you can use those ideas and lessons for the rest of your life.
lessons for the rest of your life. Again, going back to this ultra hardcore
Again, going back to this ultra hardcore on deletion and simplification. I This
on deletion and simplification. I This sounds crazy. The very first episode I
sounds crazy. The very first episode I ever did of Founders, September 2016,
ever did of Founders, September 2016, it's a biography of Elon. I was
it's a biography of Elon. I was obviously a big fan of this guy and the
obviously a big fan of this guy and the idea for Founders came from Elon. I was
idea for Founders came from Elon. I was watching an interview in 2012 that he
watching an interview in 2012 that he did with this guy named Kevin Rose and
did with this guy named Kevin Rose and it's on the factory floor at Tesla. I
it's on the factory floor at Tesla. I think they were they had like barely
think they were they had like barely producing the Model S at the time and he
producing the Model S at the time and he was asked a question I thought was
was asked a question I thought was fascinating. He was like, you know, how
fascinating. He was like, you know, how the hell did you learn how to build
the hell did you learn how to build companies? Did you read a lot of
companies? Did you read a lot of business books? Did you have a lot of
business books? Did you have a lot of mentors? And he says, no, I didn't read
mentors? And he says, no, I didn't read business books and I didn't have any
business books and I didn't have any mentors. I looked for mentors and
mentors. I looked for mentors and historical context. And the way I did
historical context. And the way I did that is I read a lot of biographies. He
that is I read a lot of biographies. He starts naming off the biographies, Ben
starts naming off the biographies, Ben Franklin, Henry Ford, Nicola Tesla, etc.
Franklin, Henry Ford, Nicola Tesla, etc. And I was like, "Oh [ __ ] that's a
And I was like, "Oh [ __ ] that's a really good idea. I should read more
really good idea. I should read more biographies." And didn't realize that
biographies." And didn't realize that now because of that, you know, we we'll
now because of that, you know, we we'll see how it goes, but I might read more
see how it goes, but I might read more biographies anywhere else in the world.
biographies anywhere else in the world. The reason I bring that up is because
The reason I bring that up is because obviously read a lot of books on Elon.
obviously read a lot of books on Elon. I've spent a lot of time studying them.
I've spent a lot of time studying them. I don't know why something about, you
I don't know why something about, you know, the 10th book. I think this is
know, the 10th book. I think this is probably the 10th book I've read on him
probably the 10th book I've read on him or 10th time I've read a book on him. It
or 10th time I've read a book on him. It it just I didn't understand his
it just I didn't understand his evangelism and his just dedication to
evangelism and his just dedication to just simplification. I don't know why
just simplification. I don't know why that wasn't in my head before in a way
that wasn't in my head before in a way that now that idea is lodged in there
that now that idea is lodged in there like delete delete delete simplify
like delete delete delete simplify simplify simplify. This guy is in
simplify simplify. This guy is in obsessed with it. It makes perfect sense
obsessed with it. It makes perfect sense because it affects everything single
because it affects everything single everything else especially as he scales.
everything else especially as he scales. Complexity is the enemy of scaling. So
Complexity is the enemy of scaling. So it says Elon paused silently for two
it says Elon paused silently for two minutes. He's looking at I think this is
minutes. He's looking at I think this is a Neuralink device if I'm not mistaken.
a Neuralink device if I'm not mistaken. Says Elon paused silently for two
Says Elon paused silently for two minutes. Then he delivered his verdict.
minutes. Then he delivered his verdict. He hated it. It was too complex, too
He hated it. It was too complex, too many wires and connections. He was in
many wires and connections. He was in the process of deleting connections from
the process of deleting connections from SpaceX's Raptor engines. Each was a
SpaceX's Raptor engines. Each was a possible failure point. There has to be
possible failure point. There has to be a single device. Yeah, it is Neurolink.
a single device. Yeah, it is Neurolink. There has to be a single device, he told
There has to be a single device, he told the deflated Neurolink engineers. A
the deflated Neurolink engineers. A single elegant package with no wires, no
single elegant package with no wires, no connections, no router. There was no law
connections, no router. There was no law of physics that prevented all the
of physics that prevented all the functionality from being in one device.
functionality from being in one device. When engineers tried to explain the need
When engineers tried to explain the need for the router, Elon's face turned
for the router, Elon's face turned stony. And he said, "Delete, delete,
stony. And he said, "Delete, delete, delete, delete." And so I want to go
delete, delete." And so I want to go back to the fact that Elon is constantly
back to the fact that Elon is constantly learning from everything around him,
learning from everything around him, everything he experiences. He comes up
everything he experiences. He comes up with a he was obsessed with this game
with a he was obsessed with this game called Polytopia. And he comes with a
called Polytopia. And he comes with a list of Polytopia life lessons. He
list of Polytopia life lessons. He actually thinks playing the game will
actually thinks playing the game will make you a better CEO. says, "One key to
make you a better CEO. says, "One key to understanding his intensity, his focus,
understanding his intensity, his focus, his competitiveness, his diehard
his competitiveness, his diehard attitudes and love of strategy is
attitudes and love of strategy is through his passion for video games.
through his passion for video games. Hours of immersion became the way he let
Hours of immersion became the way he let off steam and honed his tactical skills
off steam and honed his tactical skills and strategic thinking for business. He
and strategic thinking for business. He became obsessed with a multiplayer
became obsessed with a multiplayer strategy game on his iPhone called
strategy game on his iPhone called Polytopia. In the game, players compete
Polytopia. In the game, players compete to develop technology, corner resources,
to develop technology, corner resources, and wage battles in order to build an
and wage battles in order to build an empire. What did his passion for the
empire. What did his passion for the game say about him?" "I am just wired
game say about him?" "I am just wired for war," he answers. Remember, he's
for war," he answers. Remember, he's been repeating that maxim for decades. I
been repeating that maxim for decades. I am wired for war. Elon told his brother
am wired for war. Elon told his brother to play Polytopia because it would teach
to play Polytopia because it would teach him how to be a CEO like he was. They
him how to be a CEO like he was. They came up with a list of Polytopia life
came up with a list of Polytopia life lessons. So, I just pulled out a couple
lessons. So, I just pulled out a couple here and put them into a list for you
here and put them into a list for you and I. Number one, empathy is not an
and I. Number one, empathy is not an asset. Number two, play life like a
asset. Number two, play life like a game. Number three, do not fear losing.
game. Number three, do not fear losing. You will lose. Elon said, it will hurt
You will lose. Elon said, it will hurt the first 50 times. When you get used to
the first 50 times. When you get used to losing, you will play each game with
losing, you will play each game with less emotion. You will be more fearless.
less emotion. You will be more fearless. Take more risks. Number four, be
Take more risks. Number four, be proactive. You will never win unless you
proactive. You will never win unless you take charge of setting the strategy.
take charge of setting the strategy. Number five, optimize every turn. In
Number five, optimize every turn. In Polytopia, you only get 30 turns, so you
Polytopia, you only get 30 turns, so you need to optimize each one. Like in
need to optimize each one. Like in Polytopia, you only get a set number of
Polytopia, you only get a set number of turns in life. If you let a few of them
turns in life. If you let a few of them slide, we will never get to Mars. Number
slide, we will never get to Mars. Number six, double down. Put everything back
six, double down. Put everything back into the game to grow and grow. And so,
into the game to grow and grow. And so, I think I've mentioned a few times that,
I think I've mentioned a few times that, you know, this is the way Elon was in
you know, this is the way Elon was in his 20s. This way he's in his 30s. I
his 20s. This way he's in his 30s. I don't think he'll ever change. I don't
don't think he'll ever change. I don't think he wants to change. But you'll
think he wants to change. But you'll have several examples in the book where
have several examples in the book where people are like, you know, just calm
people are like, you know, just calm down. You don't have to do this. And so,
down. You don't have to do this. And so, I think this is just one great example
I think this is just one great example and how he thinks about himself. So
and how he thinks about himself. So someone says to him, "You don't have to
someone says to him, "You don't have to be in a state of war at all times." And
be in a state of war at all times." And his response was, "It's part of my
his response was, "It's part of my default settings. Extended periods of
default settings. Extended periods of calm are unnerving to him." And he does
calm are unnerving to him." And he does say something that's I believe I I
say something that's I believe I I wouldn't take obviously not as intense
wouldn't take obviously not as intense as he is. And he says that life needs to
as he is. And he says that life needs to be interesting and edgy and that the way
be interesting and edgy and that the way that he wants to spend his life is heads
that he wants to spend his life is heads down focused on doing useful things for
down focused on doing useful things for civilization. Which also ties to what he
civilization. Which also ties to what he was saying earlier in the book that, you
was saying earlier in the book that, you know, we need it can't just be about
know, we need it can't just be about solving problems. like we have to be we
solving problems. like we have to be we have to do things that are inspiring. We
have to do things that are inspiring. We have to do things that even if we think
have to do things that even if we think they're they're you know semi
they're they're you know semi impossible. That spending our lives
impossible. That spending our lives working on things that inspire you and
working on things that inspire you and that are good for civilization is a life
that are good for civilization is a life well-lived. And so there's this meeting
well-lived. And so there's this meeting they're having in SpaceX that I think
they're having in SpaceX that I think combines a lot of those ideas. You know,
combines a lot of those ideas. You know, number one, work on things that inspire
number one, work on things that inspire you and they're good for civilization.
you and they're good for civilization. Number two, that you have to maintain a
Number two, that you have to maintain a maniacal search of urgency when
maniacal search of urgency when something is important has to be done
something is important has to be done quickly. He should have meetings every
quickly. He should have meetings every 24 hours to run the algorithm and then
24 hours to run the algorithm and then check on the previous day's progress.
check on the previous day's progress. That's another idea that he uses over
That's another idea that he uses over and over again. And you'll be shocked at
and over again. And you'll be shocked at actually how fast this speeds things up.
actually how fast this speeds things up. And then number three, the fact that
And then number three, the fact that Elon just frames his endeavors as having
Elon just frames his endeavors as having epoch making significance. So here's an
epoch making significance. So here's an example of that. There have to be things
example of that. There have to be things that inspire you that move your heart.
that inspire you that move your heart. Being a space fairing civilization and
Being a space fairing civilization and making science fiction not fiction is
making science fiction not fiction is one of those. As they walked him through
one of those. As they walked him through the slides, he got increasingly angry.
the slides, he got increasingly angry. These timelines are [ __ ] A mega
These timelines are [ __ ] A mega fail. Like no [ __ ] way these should
fail. Like no [ __ ] way these should take so long. He said he decreed that
take so long. He said he decreed that they would start having meetings on
they would start having meetings on Starship every night, 7 days a week. We
Starship every night, 7 days a week. We are going to go through first principles
are going to go through first principles algorithm every night questioning
algorithm every night questioning requirements and deleting. That's what
requirements and deleting. That's what we did to unfuck the [ __ ] that was
we did to unfuck the [ __ ] that was Raptor. How soon, he asked, would it
Raptor. How soon, he asked, would it take to get the booster on the launchpad
take to get the booster on the launchpad to test the engines? 10 days, he was
to test the engines? 10 days, he was told. That's too long. This is critical
told. That's too long. This is critical for all human destiny. It's hard to
for all human destiny. It's hard to change destiny. You can't do it from 9
change destiny. You can't do it from 9 to 5. And so this idea that he's going
to 5. And so this idea that he's going to move into where the problem is. He's
to move into where the problem is. He's going to be one doing the the meetings
going to be one doing the the meetings every 24 hours. He talks about the fact
every 24 hours. He talks about the fact that being a frontline general is key to
that being a frontline general is key to being effective. And this is what he
being effective. And this is what he says. If they see the general out on the
says. If they see the general out on the battlefield, the troops are going to be
battlefield, the troops are going to be motivated. Elon said, wherever Napoleon
motivated. Elon said, wherever Napoleon was, that's where his armies would do
was, that's where his armies would do best. And I think that's one of the
best. And I think that's one of the things I most admire about him. You
things I most admire about him. You know, the fact that he's on the job
know, the fact that he's on the job sites, he's in the factories, he is
sites, he's in the factories, he is leading from the front. He is
leading from the front. He is hyperfocused on the problem areas. He's
hyperfocused on the problem areas. He's actually got a great line about this I
actually got a great line about this I love. All bad news should be given
love. All bad news should be given loudly and often. Good news can be said
loudly and often. Good news can be said quietly and once. Another way that he
quietly and once. Another way that he works is if an idea worked once, he'll
works is if an idea worked once, he'll use it again later and in a different
use it again later and in a different company. So this time, I guess same
company. So this time, I guess same company but a different uh product. So
company but a different uh product. So they were building cars earlier, right?
they were building cars earlier, right? Now Tesla's building the Optimus robots.
Now Tesla's building the Optimus robots. So what does Elon do? He goes to a
So what does Elon do? He goes to a meeting and he brings a bunch of toys.
meeting and he brings a bunch of toys. It says he believed that toys could
It says he believed that toys could offer lessons. A little model car had
offer lessons. A little model car had inspired him to make real cars using big
inspired him to make real cars using big casting presses. And Legos helped him
casting presses. And Legos helped him understand the importance of precision
understand the importance of precision manufacturing. This idea worked when
manufacturing. This idea worked when making cars. It can work when we were
making cars. It can work when we were making robots. And then what does he do?
making robots. And then what does he do? He ties what they're working on to
He ties what they're working on to having epochm significance. Our goal is
having epochm significance. Our goal is to make a useful humanoid robot as
to make a useful humanoid robot as quickly as possible. This means a future
quickly as possible. This means a future of abundance, a future where there is no
of abundance, a future where there is no poverty. It really is a fundamental
poverty. It really is a fundamental transformation of civilization. And so
transformation of civilization. And so he's driving the team to develop the
he's driving the team to develop the robot as fast as possible because again,
robot as fast as possible because again, if you really believe what he is saying
if you really believe what he is saying that we have an opportunity to create a
that we have an opportunity to create a technology that will be a fundamental
technology that will be a fundamental transformation of civilization, you want
transformation of civilization, you want to get there as fast as possible. And so
to get there as fast as possible. And so he says the future will not get here
he says the future will not get here fast enough unless we force it. Again,
fast enough unless we force it. Again, that's another line that Elon repeats.
that's another line that Elon repeats. the fact that technological progress is
the fact that technological progress is not inevitable. It can stop. It can even
not inevitable. It can stop. It can even backslide. Technology only goes forward
backslide. Technology only goes forward if a lot of people work very hard to
if a lot of people work very hard to make it do so. And so then he tells the
make it do so. And so then he tells the team that's working on the robo taxi,
team that's working on the robo taxi, same thing. We are all in on autonomy.
same thing. We are all in on autonomy. This will be a historically mega
This will be a historically mega revolutionary product. It will transform
revolutionary product. It will transform everything. People will be talking about
everything. People will be talking about this moment in a hundred years. And so
this moment in a hundred years. And so again, if you believe that, what are you
again, if you believe that, what are you going to do? This is only going to work
going to do? This is only going to work if we're able to manufacture tens of
if we're able to manufacture tens of millions of these. So, I'm going to work
millions of these. So, I'm going to work with you developing the manufacturing
with you developing the manufacturing process. It says Elon spent hours each
process. It says Elon spent hours each week working with his team to design
week working with his team to design each station on the line, finding ways
each station on the line, finding ways to shave milliseconds off each step and
to shave milliseconds off each step and process. He It starts with the end in
process. He It starts with the end in mind. Might a millisecond off of this
mind. Might a millisecond off of this process might not make a difference
process might not make a difference today. It makes a hell of a big
today. It makes a hell of a big difference when we're making tens of
difference when we're making tens of millions of these things a year. don't
millions of these things a year. don't think about what we're doing as tiny
think about what we're doing as tiny improvements. They're tiny improvements
improvements. They're tiny improvements today. In reality, they're massive
today. In reality, they're massive improvements over time. And so then when
improvements over time. And so then when he buys Twitter, we see he does the
he buys Twitter, we see he does the exact same thing. He takes all these
exact same thing. He takes all these engineers. He kind of like just drops
engineers. He kind of like just drops them in from his other companies and he
them in from his other companies and he starts trying to remold the culture to
starts trying to remold the culture to how Elon likes his companies to run. If
how Elon likes his companies to run. If you could figure out I think if you're
you could figure out I think if you're like, "Hey, can I design a culture
like, "Hey, can I design a culture that's directly opposite of an Elon
that's directly opposite of an Elon company? What would that be?" It sounds
company? What would that be?" It sounds like it it was Twitter. I'm just going
like it it was Twitter. I'm just going to read a couple of this. I wrote, "Elon
to read a couple of this. I wrote, "Elon finds his complete opposite company
finds his complete opposite company culture." "Trader prided itself on being
culture." "Trader prided itself on being a friendly place where coddling was
a friendly place where coddling was considered a virtue. Everyone needs to
considered a virtue. Everyone needs to feel safe here," says Leslie Berland or
feel safe here," says Leslie Berland or Berland, who was chief marketing and
Berland, who was chief marketing and people officer. She was fired by Elon.
people officer. She was fired by Elon. Twitter has instituted had instituted a
Twitter has instituted had instituted a permanent work from home option and
permanent work from home option and allowed a mental day of rest each month.
allowed a mental day of rest each month. One of the commonly used buzzwords at
One of the commonly used buzzwords at the company was psychological safety.
the company was psychological safety. Care was taken not to discomfort. Elon
Care was taken not to discomfort. Elon laughed when he heard the phrase
laughed when he heard the phrase psychological safety. It made him
psychological safety. It made him recoil. He considered it to be the enemy
recoil. He considered it to be the enemy of urgency and progress. His preferred
of urgency and progress. His preferred word was hardcore. Discomfort, he
word was hardcore. Discomfort, he believed, was a good thing. It was a
believed, was a good thing. It was a weapon against complacency.
weapon against complacency. Vacations, flower smelling, work life
Vacations, flower smelling, work life balance, and days of mental rest were
balance, and days of mental rest were not his thing.
not his thing. And so he starts making changes to the
And so he starts making changes to the product immediately. He wants the
product immediately. He wants the explore change explore page changed. And
explore change explore page changed. And so they send a message to the engineer.
so they send a message to the engineer. Of course, the engineer is not in the
Of course, the engineer is not in the office. So they send a message to the
office. So they send a message to the engineer that was in charge of the
engineer that was in charge of the explore page. And he sent back a message
explore page. And he sent back a message saying, "I will make that fix when I get
saying, "I will make that fix when I get to the office on Monday. Do it right
to the office on Monday. Do it right now." Is what he was told. And what was
now." Is what he was told. And what was fascinating is this went on for a little
fascinating is this went on for a little bit, but the engineer actually liked
bit, but the engineer actually liked this decisiveness. He says, "We had
this decisiveness. He says, "We had worked on many possible new features for
worked on many possible new features for years, but no one ever made decisions
years, but no one ever made decisions about them. And suddenly we had this guy
about them. And suddenly we had this guy making rapid decisions. And so then Elon
making rapid decisions. And so then Elon immediately starts implementing that
immediately starts implementing that core belief that you you cannot separate
core belief that you you cannot separate engineering from product design that
engineering from product design that product design should be driven by the
product design should be driven by the engineers. And he wants his product
engineers. And he wants his product managers to understand code. He says
managers to understand code. He says product managers who don't know anything
product managers who don't know anything about coding keep ordering up features
about coding keep ordering up features they don't know how to create. This is
they don't know how to create. This is like calvary generals who don't know how
like calvary generals who don't know how to ride a horse. You must stay as close
to ride a horse. You must stay as close to the actual work as possible. Do not
to the actual work as possible. Do not separate yourself from the pain of your
separate yourself from the pain of your decisions. And remember, if a timeline
decisions. And remember, if a timeline is long, it's wrong.
And then finally, there's just a single sentence I want to end on. I think we
sentence I want to end on. I think we should keep in mind hopefully Elon has
should keep in mind hopefully Elon has decades of work in front of him. And I
decades of work in front of him. And I think it's smart for us to resist the
think it's smart for us to resist the other distractions and just hone in on
other distractions and just hone in on the company building principles that we
the company building principles that we can learn from him. And that sentence to
can learn from him. And that sentence to keep in mind is both his accomplishments
keep in mind is both his accomplishments and his failures are epic.
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