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ASEAN has officially launched its long-term renewable energy roadmap and a new five-year plan of action for energy cooperation (APAC 2026-2030) to guide its energy transition and foster regional collaboration towards a sustainable and low-carbon future.

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Assalamu alaykum, Salam Sajacher and

Salam Malaysia Madani. Distinguished

guest, excellencies, honorable

ministers, esteemed heads of

delegations, distinguished speakers,

ladies and gentlemen, this session will

mark the first public engagement of the

newly endorsed ASEAN renewable energy

long-term road map and the ASEAN plan of

action of energy corporation or APAC

2026 to 2030.

The two documents serve as a guide for

the ASEAN member states in charting the

way forward for our energy transition

and cooperation. Endorsed by the 43rd AM

and announced yesterday with the

presence of the honorable Datosri Ano

bin Ibrahim, the prime minister of

Malaysia, this session will mark a new

chapter of the ASEAN energy cooperation

with our dialogue partners. Without

further ado, I would like to invite DO

Insignia technologies Razib Dawud,

executive director of the ASEAN Center

for Energy to address the session with a

policy speech to unveil the ASEAN re

long-term road map and the APAC 2026 to 2030.

>> Thank you, Madame MC. Um, Mah Rahman.

Alam allayikum

and very good afternoon to all of you

Akalas bin Muhammad Nasir the deputy

minister of energy and water

transformation or Petra Malaysia

excellency Josh Willisam the member of

parliament and assistant minister for

climate change energy of Australia and

excellency Helen Faz the ambassador of

United Kingdom to ASEAN and excellent

and Juan Marina Mus deputy secretary

general of Petra. Excellencies, uh,

distinguished delegates, ladies and gentlemen,

gentlemen,

um, you know, we've been keeping this

secret under the wrap and luckily,

thanks yesterday, the minister meeting

have signed off and approved this uh,

uh, plan of action, our next blueprint

for the five years starting 26 to 2030.

and also the minister also have approved

our long-term uh re road map. So I'm

going to share with you those um um plan.

plan.

So I'm pleased uh to share that the 43rd

Assean Minister of Energy meeting AIM

has concluded with a key endorsement for

our future energy cooperation.

So the ASEAN plan of action, plan of

action for energy cooperation or

blueprint or well known as API for the

next five years starting 2026 to 2030

will shape our future as the regional

blueprint for our energy cooperation.

But also important is the Assean

renewable energy long-term road map

which supported and guided the

developments of the Raike for the next

five years.

Next slide please. Excellency uh ladies

and gentlemen, the Asan Center for

Energy OAS or the center has published

last year the AIDS energy outlook as

regional guide toward the future of our

energy sector endorsed by the last year

meeting of the 42nd AIM. So the outlook

showcased the potential economic growth

of our region which is coupled with the

rise in energy demand. Indeed, with

efficiency, we can reduce some pressure

to our energy system without

jeopardizing a just and inclusive

growth. Next slide, please.

Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen, the

ASEAN renewable energy long-term road

map is how we have extended the outlook

to support ASEAN energy transition. As

we developed the road map, we were

guided by the ASEAN community vision 2045

2045

adopted by the leaders at the 46 ASEAN

summit here in May

this year. The road map hence aims to be

the sectoral long-term guide for the

ASEAN member state in managing our

shared energy future. On the technical

levels, the road map serve as a unified

regional framework that translate Assean

high level renewable energy ambition

into a coordinated and implementable

actions. It provides clear pathway for

how our region can move together toward

a sust sustainable and lowcarbon energy

future. So that framework ladies and

gentlemen is the Assean plan of action

for energy cooperation. It is the

regional blueprint of the ASEAN energy

corporate corporation developed for the

next five years in developing the APA

with the API drafting committee. So the

ACE provided the road map as a benchmark

and potential pathway for the regional

energy transition. For the road map we

have developed and modeled three key

scenarios that illustrate ASEAN possible

policy pathway or direction. So these

scenarios provide policy funnel

narrowing down path and sharpening up

necessary action and discussion for

renewable energy and beyond. Next slide

please. Excellencies, ladies and

gentlemen. So the multiple pathway

provide ASEAN with multiple option to

grow our economy uh through a secured

and sustainable energy future. Our re

share in the total primary energy supply

or TPS can be more than doubled by

working together as a region through the

APG or ASEAN power grid and regional

renewable energy certificate framework.

Indeed, both the APG and REC or RAG are

part of the priorities under current

Malaysian ASEAN chairmanship in 2025 in

which ASEAN is committed to continue to develop.

develop.

However, a bit of different story can be

observed for the installed capacity of

renewable energy under the APA

scenarios. With the current state of our

energy and climate related policies,

ASEAN is expected to see a considerable

jump in our installed renewable capacity

as the expected growth is already very

promising. Regional cooperation will

still add to the share but in less

considerable amount. Similarly for the

energy intensity in ASEAN the APS

provide a promising reduction by 2030

But what does it mean to our energy

corporation? It means that the power

generation expect

the power generation aspect of our

energy is the right track for

decarbonization and growth. Our power

generation is undergoing transition and

the interconnectivity through aid

through the APG has been doubled down

but more cooperation is needed to

decarbonize the whole energy system.

Bofuels, lowcarbon buildings, transport

and many others components of our

vibrant energy system will require more

and more regional cooperation to be

decarbonized and grow our economy. Next

slide please. Excellencies, ladies and

gentlemen, that was one of the primary

takeaways from the road map that

supported the developments of our API

2026 to 2030. And through the road map

and this team, ASEAN has committed to

this uh I call it formula 30 4540. So 3%

share of in our total primary ind supply

or TPS and 40 45% share re in our

install capacity and 40% energy

intensity reduction from our 2005

baseline. Next slide please. Not only it

is collect a collective future looking

ASEAN. So the upike the next upike is

also committed to continue the good the

good progress made under the previous or

the current upike which is end this and

this year. So the seven programs areas

under the previous upike are still been

kept and expanded. key notable changes

on the oil and gas connectivity,

security and sustainability which has

expanded the vision of the trans Azan

gas pipeline or TAGP and kept it as a

key strategy under the new programs

areas and the CCT or clinical

transformation has also been expanded.

So the clean coal technology as a

program area to promote a responsible

and low carbon coal value change align

with the Russian carbon neutrality

aspiration and technology innovation in

emission reduction. Indeed the remaining

programs areas have not gone through

title change but considerable expansion

of its role ambition and shared vision

collectively. So these seven programs

areas form the core architecture of the

ASEAN energy cooperation framework. It

ensure that our region remains secure,

sustainable and forwardlooking in it

path toward a cleaner, a greener energy

future. Excellencies, ladies and

gentlemen, and unfortunately I will not

able to share how each program area will

shape our energy future in detail

without keeping you for too long. But

this center or ace understand the

strategic importance of the APA and

every single detail matters for for our

shared futures. For that the center next

slide please. The center will organize a

deep dive round table series to provide

you with the detail of each program

areas to be delivered directly by our

key expert. We will convince in Jakarta

December this year for an invite only

round table series organized directly by

the center. So I welcome you to register

your interest for more information this

session those QR code. With that note,

>> Thank you D Rajib Daw for the insightful

policy speech on the ASEAN re long-term

And now ladies and gentlemen, I will now

invite his excellency Tuanhaji Akmal

Nasruah bin Mohamad Nasi, Deputy

Minister of Energy Transition and Water

Transformation Petra Malaysia to provide

in senior technologist Razid bindaw

executive director of the Assean Center

for Energy. Very insightful presentation

just now.

My dear colleague, your excellency Josh

Wilson, Assistant Minister of Climate

Change Energy of Australia. I call him

dear colleague or dear friend because he

just followed me on Instagram

and I just follow him back. So become my

dear friend.

Your excellency ambassador Helen Fzi, UK

ambassador to the ASEAN.

Juan Marina Mafus, Deputy Secretary

General of Ministry of Energy Transition

and Water Transformation or PETRA.

Mr. Mario Marisan,

Assistant Secretary of the Department of

Energy DOE, Philippines,

Ivana Deitrova, Southeast Asia Regional

Lead of Energy and Industrial Decarbonization.

Decarbonization.

Distinguished delegates, ladies and gentlemen,

and a very good afternoon.

It is a great honor to address this

gathering today at such a pivotal moment

and of strategic importance to our

region. The ASEAN plan of action for

energy cooperation or APA 2026 2030 and

the ASEAN renewable energy long-term

road map.

This initiative reflect not just our

collective ambition but our shared

belief that ASEAN's strength lies in

unity, cooperation

and our commitment to a sustainable

future as regional solidarity in the

face of global energy challenges.

In yesterday's speech by our prime

minister, he has clearly expressed our

achievements in this year meeting

including some key outcomes among other

things. Together we have endorsed for

example the enhanced memorandum of

understanding for the ASEAN power grid

as well as ASEAN power grid financing initiative.

initiative.

Such dedicated platform will mobilize

green finance, bankable projects and

accelerate cross borders investments on

land and subse alike. But going back to

our focus today on Apaya,

it has stood as the cornerstone for of

regional energy cooperation for the past

two decades guiding us through the

evolving challenging of energy security,

sustainability and accessibility.

and it represent Asan spirit of

solidarity a framework that connects our

national priorities into one coherent

regional vision. The new APAC 2026 2030

marks another important chapter in this

journey and among it its key outcomes is

the endorsement of bold new regional

targets. Basically I'm trying to

simplify what Dr. Razif just presented

now which are 40% of reduction in energy intensity

intensity

30% share of re in the total primary

energy supply and achieving 45% re in

installed power generation capacity by 2030.

2030.

These targets are not merely numbers.

There are a clear statement of Assean

determination to lead the region toward

a lowcarbon secure and inclusive energy future.

future.

The new plan of action will serve as

ASEAN's policy compass for the next

decade. It provides clear pathways to

expand renewable energy, enhance energy

efficiency, and strengthen regional

interconnection. Importantly,

it also places inclusiveness at the art

at the heart of our transition.

Recognizing that while our member states

may be at different stages of

development, we are all moving forward

together ensuring no one is left behind.

And indeed, ASEAN is developing this

regional action plan based on the

concentrated effort of ACE to outline

the potential pathways of our energy

transition through the ASEAN energy

outlook and the renewable energy

long-term road map. It provides us with

a good standing to ensure that regional

planning is grounded into a scientific

knowledge provided by ACE as the

regional energy organization.

As dynamic of Assean countries, we

understand that the energy transition is

not only about technology or policy. It

is about people, opportunity and fairness.

fairness.

Ensuring that the shift towards clean

energy also creates jobs, reduces

inequality and empowers communities

across our region. This is what makes

ASEAN's approach truly meaningful.

Therefore, I call upon all our ASEAN

partners, dialogue partners and

development agencies to continue working

hand in hand with us to share knowledge,

mobilize investment and build capacity

so that together we can turn ambition

into tangible progress. Through Apay, we

reaffirm our shared responsibility to

secure affordable, reliable and

sustainable energy for all Assean

citizens. And let us continue to move

forward with determination and

solidarity, accelerating decarbonization

while ensuring a just and inclusive

energy transition for every member

Thank you his excellency deputy minister

of Petra Malaysia for that wonderful speech.

And now ladies and gentlemen, as ASEAN

is embarking on a new chapter of its

energy cooperation, it is only

appropriate to commemorate the occasion

with a long-standing dialogue partner of

ASEAN. Indeed, dialogue partnership of

ASEAN with our closest partners holds a

strategic significance in supporting the

journey of ASEAN towards a shared energy

future. With that, I would like to

invite her excellency Helen Fuzzy,

Ambassador of the United Kingdom to

ASEAN to provide a congratulatory remark

for ASEAN on a successful endorsement of

the ASEAN re long-term road map and the

Young Bahuan Akmal Nasa bin

Muhammad Nasa, Deputy Minister of Energy

Transition and Water Transformation of

Malaysia. Your Excellency John Wilson,

MP, Assistant Minister for Climate

Change of Australia. Juan Marina

Mahabuz, Deputy Secretary General of

Petra. Mario Marasan, assistant

secretary of the Philippines Department

of Energy. Ladies and gentlemen, it is a

great privilege uh to represent the UK

at the launch of the ASEAN Plan of

Action for Energy Cooperation today and

I'd like to express my congratulations

to the ASEAN Center for Energy uh and

all the ASEAN member states for bringing

forward this vital development.

ASEAN and the UK are approaching our

fifth year as uh in dialogue partnership

and as we've deepened our cooperation on

critical issues on peace and security on

economics and trade it's been clear that

the shared vision of a cleaner greener

economy driving sustainable and

inclusive economic growth really

underpins our partnership.

Southeast Asia is set to contribute more

than 25% of growth in global energy

demand over the next decade and ASEAN is

going to need five times the current

level of investment by 2035 to achieve

its climate goals. So it's important

that we're clear energy is not a break

on development. The region's green

transition provides significant

opportunities for growth of up to $300

billion by 2030, according to some estimates.

estimates.

In the UK, we have cut carbon while

growing our economy. We're in the second

year of coal free power, and my

government is stepping on the

accelerator to fully decarbonize our

power sector by 2030.

This clear mission on clean energy has

attracted record levels of private investment.

investment.

The launch of the new ASEAN plan of

action for energy cooperation is a

significant moment in ASEAN's just

energy transition which we are pleased

to be supporting through our ASEAN UK

green transition fund. The plan of

action gives direction to the end of

this decade and it draws on evidence of

the opportunities of a cleaner greener

economy for ASEAN.

The enhanced MOU on the ASEAN power grid

also signed this week at the ASEAN miny

ASEAN meeting of energy ministers is a

strong signal of the political will to

achieve all that. So I just want to

conclude by again saying congratulations

Summer, thank you your excellency for

Your excellencies, ladies and gentlemen,

I would now like to invite his

excellency Josh Wilson, MP, Assistant

Minister for Climate Change and Energy

of Australia to provide the

Assalam alalayikum. Good afternoon

everyone. Thank you MC. Allow me to

start by acknowledging my newest

Instagram connection, the deputy

minister of energy transition and water

transformation Akmal and of course

executive director of the Azan Center

for Energy Data Razib Dood. Ambassadors,

excellencies, I'm Josh Wilson,

Australia's Assistant Minister for

Climate Change and Energy, and it really

is a privilege to be here with you all.

I want to begin by thanking Malaysia as

Azan Chair and of course the Azan Center

for Energy for bringing us together this

afternoon uh and for each of you uh for

making time to join us. Uh since

becoming Australia's assistant minister

for climate change and energy last year,

I've had the pleasure of engaging with a

number of Azan countries and I've seen

the incredible work you're doing to

transition your energy systems.

As Azan's first dialogue partner,

Australia deeply values our

long-standing partnership and we remain

wholeheartedly supportive of the

region's clean energy transition.

Azan's ambition to deliver secure,

sustainable, and inclusive energy for

its people aligns completely with

Australia's own priorities as reflected

in our Southeast Asia economic strategy

to 2040.

I warmly congratulate the Azan Center

for Energy and Azan member states on

endorsing the Azan plan of action for

energy cooperation 2026 to 2030 and the

Azan renewable energy long-term roadmap

which settled yesterday.

These are landmark frameworks and they

reflect Azan's leadership and collective

commitment to an interconnected

lowcarbon and resilient energy future.

And while of course there are challenges

before us, we know there are also

incredible opportunities.

And Australia has been proud for a long

time. And we continue to be proud to

work with Azan to accelerate the energy

transition across our region in a way

that supports secure, sustainable, and

inclusive growth.

We're committed to supporting the

development of these frameworks with

policy inputs and support from our $24

million Oz for Azan futures initiative

and our $195 million partnerships for

infrastructure program. But our work

certainly doesn't stop there. The Azan

Australia energy cooperation package is

focused on Azan's priorities for clean

energy connectivity and resilience. It

includes support for Azan power grid to

enable crossber power trading and to

strengthen regional energy security. And

Australia's $2 billion Southeast Asia

investment financing facility is

unlocking finance for clean and

renewable energy infrastructure across

the region.

Friends, we have every reason to be

optimistic and even excited by the

transformation that is occurring both in

Australia and across our region. Uh we

are embarking on an ambitious climate

and energy agenda and uh as deputy

minister Akmal rightly said, we're doing

that on the basis that it should benefit

everyone and that no one should be left

behind through this transition.

Last month, Prime Minister Albanesi

submitted Australia's 2035 nationally

determined contribution to the UNF C

with a target to reduce emissions by 62

to 70% on 2005 levels. And that

ambitious but achievable commitment is

underpinned by our new comprehensive net

zero plan.

The truth is that the road to the point

we've reached has not always been smooth

in Australia. uh but we're prepared to

share the lessons that we've learned and

to benefit from those lessons uh in the

region. As a federated nation, we've had

to find a way to integrate or manage

electricity systems across six separate

states and territories. And that's not

unlike the challenges faced by the Azan

power grid. Though of course uh here the

need for subc cable interconnections

does make it more complex.

As a nation that has been deeply reliant

on fossil fuels, we've had to navigate

both the politics and the economics of

transitioning to greener, cleaner energy resources.

resources.

And experience tells us that

constructive, optimistic, and focused

cooperation is the key ingredient to

navigating that transition. And that's

why Australia will stand with the region

every step of the way. We will walk

forward hand in hand uh with our

regional partners as we undertake this

shared endeavor. We feel encouraged by

the extraordinary opportunities to

collaborate with our Azan partners

during this defining era.

Allow me once again to thank Malaysia

for its steadfast leadership this year

as Azan chair and acknowledge with

gratitude the Azan Center for Energy for

playing a vital role in regional policy

stewardship. Assalam alaikum Terra

McCassi. Thank you.

>> Thank you your excellency. May I kindly

invite your excellency to remain on

stage for the next part of this agenda

which is the photo session. Uh to join

his excellency Josh on stage. May I

kindly invite once again his excellency

Tuan Akmal Nasah bin Muhammad

Nasir, her excellency Helen Fuzzy, UK

ambassador to AIA, Juan Marina Mafus,

Deputy Secretary General of Petra

Malaysia, Under Secretary Mario C

Marasen Cheso 3, Department of Energy

Philippines and Baba Benny Suryadi,

senior manager of Apayak and strategic

partnership for ACE. Unfortunately uh

Dr. Insenor technologist Rajiv Dao the

executive director of ACE has to depart

the hall to being called by the AM chair

but nevertheless the show must go on and

we'd like to invite our excellencies and

uh VIPs on stage to prepare for the

group photo session together.

And for this we'd like to invite um to

give your biggest and warmest smiles for

And there we have it. Thank you your

excencies for the time and appreciation

to the new chapter of the ASEAN Energy

Corporation. We thank the deputy

minister of Petra Malaysia for gracing

our event today and your endless support

Thank you once again to his excellency

Tuan Akamal and our distinguished

guests for joining us on stage for the

Ladies and gentlemen,

we're announcing the departure of his

excellency Tuanhaji Akmal Nasah bin

Muhammad Nasir, Deputy Minister of Water

Transition and Energy Transformation,

Petra Malaysia. Thank you once again to

his excellency Akumal for gracing

our event and once again your endless

support and work towards the energy

Ladies and gentlemen, we are now moving

to the panel discussion session. This

discussion will bring more life to the

API 2026 to 2030 and the ASEAN re

long-term road map. Our speakers today

have been working for the advancement of

our energy cooperation for decades and

are ready to share their thoughts with

the audience today. Without further

delay, I would like to invite Juan

Marina Mahuz, Deputy Secretary General

of Petra Mala. A round of applause

ladies and gentlemen to our panelists.

Under secretary Maria C. Marasan Cheso 3

Department of Energy Philippines, Miss

Ivana Deitrova, Southeast Asia regional

lead energy and industrial

decarbonization of the British High

Commission in Singapore UK FCDO and Baba

Beni Suryatti, senior manager of Apayak

and Strategic Partnership ASEAN Center

for Energy as our moderator for today's session.

And with that ladies and gentlemen, I

now hand over the floor to Papa Beni Suriyadi.

Um thank you very much our MC and it's

very very honor for me to uh uh had

opportunity to uh take the stage uh

moderate um the last session of the

ASEAN energy business forum which is

also our primary session to uh introduce

to the public our major document that

being endorsed uh by the 43rd of the

ASEAN minister on energy m uh meeting

yesterday. This is also commensurate by

the PMX in the launching of the AMM

yesterday. Um as mentioned that uh we

have three panelists uh on the stage

that um um three people who really

driving the energy transition in the

Assean region. Uh we have uh Juan Marina

Mahoud from the Malaysia. Uh we have Mr.

Mario Marigan uh from the Philippines.

uh the ASO next chair of the uh ASEAN

and then uh we have um Ivana my dear

friend that been uh collaborating and

corporation uh supporting the ASEAN

center for energy and far energy

activity. Um so um

let me proceed with the discussion and

we ask um everyone to learn more that

how are going to drive our energy

activity for the next five year. Um

allow me to start with Puan Marina that

um so under the theme of the powering

ASEAN bridging bundi building

prosperities Malaysia ASEAN chairmanship

has commended the advancement of our

energy cooperation in multiple ways as

highlighted in the many agenda of this

week. Um so Puan uh will you please

share more with the audience that we

have today how ASEAN has collaborate to

develop this regional blueprint. Um, we

have the ASA API 2026 2030 and the ASEAN

long-term road map toward regional

energy security and interconnectivity in

a very good afternoon to all and uh

Malaysia Madani. Uh before I start uh

giving uh my my views, first and

foremost, I would like to express my

appreciation uh to Assean Center for

Energy for giving the opportunity for

Malaysia especially uh from the ministry

to also participate in uh today's

evening session.

Well uh as you correctly mentioned just

now Benny actually under the energy

sector Malaysia chairmanship we are

guided by the team of uh powering assean

bridging boundaries building prosperity

and um we have been working collectively

you know uh to develop our new API. This

is all uh concerted effort from all the

ASEAN member state and I can assure you

actually it's not an easy journey and is

not is not an easy task actually you

know to come out with a with a uh

document that is very strategic that it

can be considered as our blueprint uh to

chart our uh way forward for the next

five years uh in the energy sector. So um

so this uh APA phase 3 or I call it as a

2026 to 2030 actually is developed

through an inclusive and consultative

process which ensuring that uh every

member state national priorities are

aligned under one uh regional uh vision

and we are focusing in term of uh

expanding more on the ASEAN power grid

uh initiative and improving uh energy

efficiency and also strengthening

innovation uh strengthening uh uh and digitalizing

digitalizing

the the infrastructure especially the

grid and also we are also introducing uh

a financing scheme you know incentive

that can can be given uh to to to our

industry across our energy system. These

are few of the things that uh we have

been introduced under the new API uh

2026 to 2030. So uh complement to that

uh blueprint as uh actually we are we

able to develop also our re long-term

road map because the re long-term road

map is actually to increase more

renewable energy into our energy mix.

that is the the ultimate goal of the re

long-term road map and I believe uh the

the road map will serve as complement

complementing to the uh Apike 2026 to

2030. So this these are the uh what we

call it as a goal or what we vision uh

by all the ASEAN member state to achieve

by the year 2030. As we rightly hear

just now from the deputy prime minister,

I think some of the target uh are quite

ambitious but we believe uh as an assean

uh unity and solidarity

we believe that we are able to achieve

the targets by the year 2030. Thank you Benny.

Benny.

>> Thank you for um I said there are many

accomplishment that being made um under

the chairmanship of Malaysia. Uh it's

time for celebration but it's also I

pass it to Mr. Mario that uh um we have

a few minutes for celebration but then

gearing up to the next uh chairmanship

of the uh Philippine. Um so many things

that being accomplished this year right

be uh egg annual priority all of the egg

is being uh fully accomplished. Um but

um but then um as we adopt the neody

command we are gearing up um to um the

next action and um we look forward to

the Philippines ASEAN chairmanship as

well in 2026. So how how do the

deliverables and achievement that being

made this year by ASEAN under the

Malaysia chairmanship um uh can be uh

continues and shape the Philippines

preparation for the next year.

>> Thank you very much for the question but

uh please allow me to first greet

everyone um your excellencies uh

distinguished guest uh ladies and

gentlemen good afternoon. So with

regards to your question, I would like

to express also the Philippines

appreciation to Malaysia for the

outstanding chairmanship and leading the

way in coming up with these two

blueprints that we are launching today.

Of course, the Philippines will take uh

the this opportunity a big opportunity

for us to push forward all the

initiatives that we had within the AAN

region. In fact, the Philippines as an

archipelago would want to take advantage

of the different roadmats particularly

or among others uh the subc uh uh

connection uh program

because that deals also with our inter

and intra island connection. So that

will help us a lot. So therefore for the

Philippines taking advantage of what was

started what were started by Malaysia

will definitely uh enhance and provide

uh the direction for the next years

which will be guided by three

principles. One it's fully informed uh

policy direction and strengthened uh

regional commitments and of course we

have to strengthen our uh connectivity

and integration. Thank you.

>> Thank you. Thank you very much. Um you

sex Mario and then I go with you if

that's um you've been hearing the two

document that being launching um AEN um

Marina and and you Mario mentioned that

u um ASEAN is advancing our effort to a

more interconnected region to achieve

energy security and transition target.

So um how do you see um the the the role

of the um ASEAN dialogue partner uh

particularly from the point of view of

UK in supporting ASEAN um to achieve

this vision.

>> Uh thank you Benny and afternoon

everyone and thank you for staying with

us on a late Friday afternoon uh and

paying I see audience is paying

attention. Uh let me before I start let

me uh add my congratulations to Malaysia

chair uh this year. Uh I think it

culminated really well yesterday when

Prime Minister Anoir called the Assean

power grid the crown jewel uh the the

crown jewel of cooperation in um in

ASEAN. So that is a really big testament

to a lot of the work Malaysia has done

and of I'm sure the Philippines will

continue uh soon. Uh and maybe if I may

add a personal history uh before I moved

from London to uh Southeast Asia, the

Asan Energy Outlook was the very first

document I read. Uh and um Apike was the

fourth one. Um but let's change this. Uh

and I'm hoping and now I will add the re

road map to my reading list. Um I'm very

curious to see as well. uh and that

really helped me understand ASEAN as an

institution and the ambition and I guess

the the role of a dialogue partner and

uh compared to Australia I have uh the

UK has been a fairly new dialogue

partner we've been a partner since 20 uh

21 but I can speak to the energy

transition and why we see this as

important to have a dialogue because the

energy transition is not linear it's

very complex complex and at the same

time it's kind of messy but all of our

countries are all of the countries are

in it together the UK assean members um

and we all have the same objectives so

keeping the lights on for consumers

keeping the prices down and cutting

emissions at the same time it sounds

almost misleadingly simple but uh it's

not uh and this is maybe to your

question Benny uh interconnection and a

power grid and interconnectivity and how

it has served us in the UK and I think

this is probably the key role I see as a

dialogue partner for us is sharing the

lessons uh that we've learned uh along

the way and how interconnection and

connecting our power systems to our

neighbors um in Europe has served as

well and if you allow me I'll start with

a really brief story of how

interconnection evolved in the UK so we

started in 1961 1 uh and we started

really cautiously with a very small

interconnector between the UK and

France. Uh it was 200 megawws and it was

only used for backup and then we stopped

uh connecting to other power systems for

20 years. And those of those of you who

have been around and listening to panels

will hear this often quoted example of

oh well the Asan power grid has been

around for 20 years. Well, in the the

interconnection story in the UK hasn't

been linear either and it has also been

messy. Uh and then it started again in

1986 when the UK and France then built

another bigger connector. So from 200

megawws we went to 2 gawatt. And uh this

is where this is where it got really

serious. And fast forward to now, we're

actually trading electricity on pretty

much an hourly basis with six of our

neighbors. Uh, and it's reaching 10

gawatt and most of it is actually subc.

Uh, and why am I sharing this? Um, it's

because, um, for us it took almost 20

years to get from our very small

interconnector to something bigger. It's

because the tipping point was the UK

France interconnection and from there we

started seeing more and more

interconnectors being built being added

and then turning into a huge network of

subc uh interconnectors and I see ASEAN

being exactly at that stage at the

tipping point uh and actually thanks to

Malaysia's leadership it's that tipping

point where we actually starting to see

uh progress and interconnectors in my

view have served us really well in

meeting the energy trillemma that we

talked about. So the security, the

sustainability and the affordability

on security interconnectors have really

helped us diversify our energy mix. So

you will see in the UK we have a lot of

offshore wind but we need base load

right and our interconnector for example

with to France gives us nuclear base

load. Our interconnector to Norway gives

us hydro power base load and it has

really helped during many of our uh cold

winter evenings uh let's say uh and to

the affordability. So we see energy

security as diversification to the

affordability. Some of our bigger links

have saved our consumers a lot of money.

So actually the Nemo link which was the

first one with Belgium has saved around

200 million to consumers. uh in energy

costs and our interconnectors have

allowed us to reduce our emissions on

our grid network um actually around 100

million tons of CO2. So just back to

your question, we see interconnection as

important to our energy mix, helps us

meet the energy trillemma domestically

and probably as our our role as dialogue

partner is to now share the lessons

learned, the messiness of developing

those, but also some of the uh harder uh

some of the harder lessons around how do

you actually build the regulatory

infrastructure and the genuine

infrastructure on the seabed. Um so

we're excited to support you on that

journey. Thank you.

>> Thank you. Thank you. And then it's very

good to learn that you are reading the

ASAN energy although I think it's the

seventh version during that time

and uh we are working on the next

version to be launched in the Philippine

um next year but the the the major

recommend that we have one of it um no I

turn back to uh you Mario that uh the

AEAN renewable energy long-term road

map. So as as as as described in this

document that um ASEAN has a huge

opportunity to advance our ASM energy

transition um including the promoting

the role of renewable and new technology

as well. We're talking about um nuclear

we're talking about the hydrogen we're

talking about the bofuel. So, so how how

does the Philippine seizes this

opportunity in the for the region and

then um how this topic will be addressed

as well um to advance the asan region

next year?

>> Again, thank you very much for the

question Veni. But you see, we would

like to take advantage of the uh

renewable energy long-term road map.

This is a pivotal opportunity for us not

only for the Philippines but for the

entire region to harness more of what we

have. We know that uh we have to diversify

diversify

our energy resources. So that's why we

open our hands in accepting different uh

emerging and innovative technologies. Of

course you have mentioned nuclear

technologies and others. We're looking

at uh energy transition through in re

re-engineering and repurposing of

thermal facilities like the use of

ammonia, the use of hydrogen as uh

alternative fuels. But while we aim for diversification,

diversification,

we will still continue our push for

advanced and enhanced connectivity. And

connectivity does not pertain to you

know the physical connection in in

sharing uh sharing uh electricity but

also connectivity in preserving what we

have. That means sharing the resources

because we understand that uh not all

member uh economies within the ASA have

the same resources. Summers for one and

we have to address it also the different

challenges as far as our um service

provisions would be concerned

particularly our consumers.

Affordability is one of the major issues.

issues.

Provision of electricity because the it

is still a big challenge for the ASAN

region to really provide complete

electrification and energization of all

areas. The Philippines alone is still

facing a big task and we need funding to

really push for 100% electrification

much more for countries like Philippines

and Indonesia who have many islands to

energize and provide electricity

services. So therefore this uh diversity

and uh difference in having what what we

have but looking at the opportunities to

enhance energy collaboration integration

among us then we can push for the energy

transition of the entire region. We're

not looking at uh energy resources

alone. But at as included in our target,

energy efficiency and conservation is a

uh is a must. It's a major component and

lowering by 40% our energy intensity

would be a big challenge for all of us.

So we need everyone's help to uh make

the Philippines be a good leader and

champion all these initiatives that we

can push through particularly when we

transfer beyond 2016 a different uh

chairmanship. Thank you very much.

>> Thank you Mario. Thank you very much on

that one. Um I I I return back to the

point Marina that's going to be um

talking back on the issue of the Assean

power grids. uh but now looking in more

context of the point of view renewable

energy Malaysia geographical feature are

uniques for us and and given its border

and proximity to Thailand, Singapore,

Indonesia and others. Uh indeed the Lao

Thailand Malaysia Singapore power

interran project is up and running for

the multilateral power trade in the

region. So, how does Malaysia sees the

AEN power grid as a regional project

that will enable more and more cooperation

cooperation

for the more renewable energy adoption

in the region? One,

>> thank you. Uh, Benny, actually uh if you

if you can remember, you know, actually

Asan power grid is not a new idea, you

know. I think as as far as I can

remember Asan power grid has started I

think the ideas is back way back I think

in 1990s you know people already talk

about Asan power grid during that time

you know so uh uh it is I I think it's a

very long outstanding initiative that

that that has been in in in in our book

I think in every Assean countries you

know talking about Assan power grid uh

and uh I think The first project the

first project it was way back in 2018

during that time 2016 or 2018 during

that time when we first made the LTM you

know the Lao Thailand Malaysia that was

the first I think in term of the you

know power trading across border and it

was successfully done up to 100 megawatt

at that point of time and uh In term of

uh power trading, it's still based on

the willing seller, willing buyer.

There's no uh you know confirm uh oftake

and so on. You know um do you you have

assess then you can trade. If the price

is right then you can trade. Uh that is

the the the principle of it and it was

proven during that time. It was not only

so-called a dream but it has been a

reality you know technically and

physibly and commercially viable you

know to to to have the electricity power

trade between Lao, Thailand and Malaysia

way back in 2018

and after that we expand it you know by

including Singapore to the team. So

still for the first phase up to 1,00 100

megawatt still willing seller and

willing buyer but then recently

starting from 2022

then we start to talk about multilateral

you know uh at first the the the working

group was saying like multidirectional

but I'm a bit I I criticize on that

actually because I think the direction

is only one way towards Singapore not to

other countries. So I think okay let us

talk first about multilateral multilateral

multilateral

then we expand uh LTMS to the second

phase by having not only LTMS but also MS.

MS. uh

if Lao cannot supply to Singapore then

Malaysia can do the supply to Singapore.

So it become like multilateral and we we

can see it that this project LTMS is

actually very powerful because it proved

to us it can be done you know it can be

done. So at that time we envision like

something like you know the European

region is all well integrated you know

like UK I just told Ivana just now I

don't like United Kingdom model because

to me it's like oh very messy you know I

met off jam actually I say oh your model

is very messy everything is like

wholesale market you know very

challenging but for Assean countries we

start at a very different point you know

because everybody is different you No,

we don't even have a one single currency

that accepted by like in European you

you have euros you know is well accepted

within the the the the European region

but not in ASEAN we are different and we

are start we started at a very different

point and that and we can see that it

was very challenging you know especially

in term of harmonizing the technicality

of it you know uh Lao have a very

different system. Yeah. Uh the capacity

also is different. Uh same goes to

Thailand, same goes to Malaysia.

And we realized that that's a point of

time that we need to harmonize

everything you know in term of

regulatory, in term of uh the

technicality and so on. So but uh to us

we we we are very proud of LTM and LTMS

because it proves something to us that

it can be done. So to answer your

question, Benny, actually Malaysia

geographically, Malaysia is a in a very

unique position in the ASEAN region, you know,

know,

because we share our borders together

with Thailand, together with Singapore,

and I hope soon that we also can share

together with Indonesia, you know,

because it's not that far actually for

Indonesia. So but if you can see at the

Brono Island is already connected

between Malaysia and Indonesia because

Sarawa has been supplying to Kalimantan

for 300 megawatt and we are going to

expand that as well you know the interconnection.

interconnection.

So it is possible you know it is

possible under Assean power grid and we

believe that also the success of Assean

power grid is not solely rely on Assean

member state only Assean member state

because we get the support from our

dialogue partners we get the support

from our international organization you

know uh many of these uh our partners

and our uh international organization

like IEA EA uh IEA and then Ireina you

know they have been doing all these

studies and they have been helping us

you know sharing knowledge sharing

sharing experience. So that make us I

think we are I believe we have a good

team you know together with ASEAN to

make APG is a successful initiative for

the region. So I hope that uh under the

Philippine can push more compared to

Malaysia to make it, you know, we

already have the blueprint, the road map

and this is a time uh for us to talk

about implementation. I mean the real

the reality of it you know for you to

implement uh uh all the APG initiative.

Thank you Benny. Thank you very much uh

Juan. Uh a lot of thing to unpack on the

ASEAN power grid but uh let let me let

me go to another topic first to be um

back to the Assean plan of action for

energy cooperation ap6

to 2030.

um part of the uh team is al also on the

just and inclusive transition right um

so address to any any any panel would

like to respond on that um how how how

do you see

from inside from the Philippine from the

Malaysia perspective or from the outside

from the UK perspective that can

collectively work on our energy cooperation

cooperation

not only to accelerate the transition um

bringing more renewable energy but but

also to guarantee fairness so that we

can provide a clean and secure energy

for everyone in the region. Open question to all the panel I mean

Open question to all the panel I mean from the ASEAN inside point of view

from the ASEAN inside point of view Philippines or Malaysia or from our

Philippines or Malaysia or from our dialogue partner point of view. Uh

dialogue partner point of view. Uh anyone would like to start first

anyone would like to start first There are two ladies on the

go. >> Okay. Apparently, it's the reverse. I

>> Okay. Apparently, it's the reverse. I thought I'm the gentleman. They are the

thought I'm the gentleman. They are the gentle women.

gentle women. Well, thank you very much. Um well,

Well, thank you very much. Um well, energy transition cannot be achieved by

energy transition cannot be achieved by one country alone. And as I mentioned

one country alone. And as I mentioned earlier

earlier uh it is apparent that uh within the

uh it is apparent that uh within the AEAN uh community

AEAN uh community there is a big diverse on the energy

there is a big diverse on the energy resources that we have.

resources that we have. In that sense interconnectivity would be

In that sense interconnectivity would be one among that will help us attain our

one among that will help us attain our target as a whole.

target as a whole. You see what may be lacking in the

You see what may be lacking in the Philippines may be present in the other

Philippines may be present in the other countries in neighboring. Therefore, I

countries in neighboring. Therefore, I need not generate more on uh renewable

need not generate more on uh renewable energy if my other country neighbor can

energy if my other country neighbor can provide me those renewable energy and

provide me those renewable energy and and vice versa. Also interconnectivity

and vice versa. Also interconnectivity does not necessarily mean that we as I

does not necessarily mean that we as I mentioned also earlier it's not

mentioned also earlier it's not necessarily physical interconnection but

necessarily physical interconnection but it's the integration and collaboration

it's the integration and collaboration among us having a common mechanism on

among us having a common mechanism on how to achieve the energy and just

how to achieve the energy and just transition that we wish to achieve. We

transition that we wish to achieve. We should have a common goal of opening up

should have a common goal of opening up all the available technologies that may

all the available technologies that may be benefited by all the member countries

be benefited by all the member countries and it is with an open dialogue

and it is with an open dialogue and complete uh thorough understanding

and complete uh thorough understanding among all the members. There could be a

among all the members. There could be a leader, there could be a champion. But

leader, there could be a champion. But uh let me put an analogy in that. Uh if

uh let me put an analogy in that. Uh if some of you not necessarily the young

some of you not necessarily the young one you know bolt test five

one you know bolt test five individually the parts of the belt of

individually the parts of the belt of test part may be already strong but they

test part may be already strong but they cannot really achieve much but once they

cannot really achieve much but once they bolt in nothing is impossible. So I see

bolt in nothing is impossible. So I see aan community just the same. If even if

aan community just the same. If even if each and every member economies have

each and every member economies have their own strength, the real strength

their own strength, the real strength comes from the integration and

comes from the integration and collaboration among the members. Thank

collaboration among the members. Thank you.

you. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. Next um Juan first. I mean I could I

Next um Juan first. I mean I could I could add a little bit about that. Uh so

could add a little bit about that. Uh so how we've managed a just an inclusive

how we've managed a just an inclusive transition in the UK because we've also

transition in the UK because we've also undergone our own transition especially

undergone our own transition especially in the North Sea where we've managed a

in the North Sea where we've managed a transition we are managing the

transition we are managing the transition actually from oil and gas

transition actually from oil and gas industries into renewable industries

industries into renewable industries like hydrogen like offshore wind uh like

like hydrogen like offshore wind uh like carbon capture utilization and storage.

carbon capture utilization and storage. and the the key learning that we well

and the the key learning that we well two key learnings in that transition.

two key learnings in that transition. The first one is the need to demonstrate

The first one is the need to demonstrate the benefits of the transition to local

the benefits of the transition to local communities. So again in the in the

communities. So again in the in the North Sea um we actually to get the so

North Sea um we actually to get the so government and industry focused quite a

government and industry focused quite a lot on retraining and reskilling and

lot on retraining and reskilling and into the new jobs of the future. So an

into the new jobs of the future. So an oil and gas engineer for example moving

oil and gas engineer for example moving into CCUs or hydrogen very similar skill

into CCUs or hydrogen very similar skill set even for subc interconnectors very

set even for subc interconnectors very similar skill set. So it's about having

similar skill set. So it's about having a plan and a managed transition um and

a plan and a managed transition um and reskilling retooling uh the workforce.

reskilling retooling uh the workforce. The second one is actually capturing the

The second one is actually capturing the meaningful benefits that come with the

meaningful benefits that come with the new industries like manufacturing like

new industries like manufacturing like services and again the the transition

services and again the the transition comes with a lot of opportunities

comes with a lot of opportunities certainly in Southeast Asia a

certainly in Southeast Asia a manufacturing hub for so many of the key

manufacturing hub for so many of the key components to the energy transition and

components to the energy transition and in the UK we're trying to do exact same

in the UK we're trying to do exact same so it's about retooling reskilling the

so it's about retooling reskilling the workforce demonstrating the benefits

workforce demonstrating the benefits tangible benefits in terms of new skills

tangible benefits in terms of new skills and jobs uh as well as attracting the

and jobs uh as well as attracting the investment and building up the

investment and building up the industries together with communities.

industries together with communities. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. Uh one

>> Thank you. Thank you very much. Uh one would like to add as well.

>> A short one just many you know a just and a fair uh transition. What does it

and a fair uh transition. What does it mean by that? You know uh to me a fair

mean by that? You know uh to me a fair means that accessible you know you can

means that accessible you know you can get the supply you know the people and

get the supply you know the people and it's affordable.

it's affordable. Sometimes you can have a very ambitious

Sometimes you can have a very ambitious projects you know very costly but it but

projects you know very costly but it but the people can't afford it you know so

the people can't afford it you know so um and also reliable uh affordable

um and also reliable uh affordable accessible and reliable. So these are

accessible and reliable. So these are the three things and and it is not easy

the three things and and it is not easy actually for you to strike the balance

actually for you to strike the balance you know same goes like when you have

you know same goes like when you have like energy trilmma you know security

like energy trilmma you know security affordability and sustainability

affordability and sustainability all I think all in this room are fully

all I think all in this room are fully aware what does it mean by that but for

aware what does it mean by that but for us to strike the balance is a challenge

us to strike the balance is a challenge you know because as as we are fully

you know because as as we are fully aware each Assean member state starting

aware each Assean member state starting with a different point you know is a

with a different point you know is a different point and uh these are the

different point and uh these are the things that we need to work out uh

things that we need to work out uh moving forward it need to be harmonized

moving forward it need to be harmonized you know for so that what the outcome is

you know for so that what the outcome is a very fair and just and that can

a very fair and just and that can benefit the people so it is not only for

benefit the people so it is not only for a reason like um you know to benefit

a reason like um you know to benefit some of some of the users like

some of some of the users like commercial or industries but most

commercial or industries but most importantly it can be felt by all the

importantly it can be felt by all the people within the region So they can

people within the region So they can they can feel there's a benefit for them

they can feel there's a benefit for them you know

you know >> from there only you can when you have a

>> from there only you can when you have a very reliable supply then only you can

very reliable supply then only you can have a spillover of the economic

have a spillover of the economic activities you know creating more jobs

activities you know creating more jobs to the people and then you can boost uh

to the people and then you can boost uh uh you know income uh in the country and

uh you know income uh in the country and so on. So so these are the things that I

so on. So so these are the things that I think way forward uh there's a lot of

think way forward uh there's a lot of work to do actually for us to make APJ

work to do actually for us to make APJ is a reality. Thank you Venny. Thank

is a reality. Thank you Venny. Thank you. I think you won that's going to be

you. I think you won that's going to be we have around six minutes left um on

we have around six minutes left um on the session. Um

the session. Um maybe I can also ask all three panelists

maybe I can also ask all three panelists that's going to be I mean we're

that's going to be I mean we're discussing a lot on the Assean power

discussing a lot on the Assean power grids right u but um but in Apai itself

grids right u but um but in Apai itself it's one of the seven program area that

it's one of the seven program area that we are looking for right po Marina

we are looking for right po Marina mentioned that um AEAN countries 10

mentioned that um AEAN countries 10 countries are very diverse it has its

countries are very diverse it has its own challenge it has its own situation

own challenge it has its own situation um and uh while some countries blessed

um and uh while some countries blessed with renewable energies other countries

with renewable energies other countries countries is blessed with fossil fuels,

countries is blessed with fossil fuels, some country is advanced but some

some country is advanced but some countries is on the development on that

countries is on the development on that one. So how

one. So how if I may ask to each of the panelists

if I may ask to each of the panelists that um this may be also a concluding

that um this may be also a concluding remark um considering the the limitation

remark um considering the the limitation of time that we have that u how ASEAN

should do in embarking our our new chapter on energy cooperation. So how we

chapter on energy cooperation. So how we can ensure that

can ensure that all topics all option is address equally

all topics all option is address equally um important equally important on that

um important equally important on that one. How we can make sure that the

one. How we can make sure that the dilemma that point mentioned or how we

dilemma that point mentioned or how we can make sure the just energy transition

can make sure the just energy transition is equally addressed at the same time we

is equally addressed at the same time we are addressing the concern on energy

are addressing the concern on energy security um in the national level but

security um in the national level but collectively as a region as also with

collectively as a region as also with our partner. So if I may invite everyone

our partner. So if I may invite everyone to have um 1 minute one and a half

to have um 1 minute one and a half minutes uh comment which is also a

minutes uh comment which is also a closing statement for our session uh on

closing statement for our session uh on as we are looking a new um pace of the

as we are looking a new um pace of the energy cooperation in region. Um shall

energy cooperation in region. Um shall we start with this side first?

we start with this side first? >> Sure. Uh happy happy to to try. So I

>> Sure. Uh happy happy to to try. So I think uh I mean even in Europe we talk

think uh I mean even in Europe we talk about multi-peed collaboration uh right?

about multi-peed collaboration uh right? So different different countries go at

So different different countries go at different speeds. Uh but the crux of it

different speeds. Uh but the crux of it is not harmonization but alignment. So

is not harmonization but alignment. So alignment of of alignment of interest,

alignment of of alignment of interest, alignment of um common and shared goals

alignment of um common and shared goals and it's actually fine to move at

and it's actually fine to move at different speeds as long as the

different speeds as long as the destination is clear and to me it

destination is clear and to me it actually the destination is clear for

actually the destination is clear for ASEAN and you have a road map um as

ASEAN and you have a road map um as well. Uh so the second one I think is

well. Uh so the second one I think is very much trying to align and focus on

very much trying to align and focus on the delivery and putting together the I

the delivery and putting together the I call it a mixture of the bold and the

call it a mixture of the bold and the boring. So the the boring being the the

boring. So the the boring being the the words I'm going to mention are very

words I'm going to mention are very boring but absolutely essential things

boring but absolutely essential things like regulation, governance and the

like regulation, governance and the institutions that underpin that. Um as

institutions that underpin that. Um as well as um as well as things like

well as um as well as things like procurement practices and understanding

procurement practices and understanding where ASEAN together as as a as a

where ASEAN together as as a as a community is stronger. uh and I think

community is stronger. uh and I think that definitely sharing renewable

that definitely sharing renewable resources, sharing expertise, sharing

resources, sharing expertise, sharing knowledge and experience makes ASEAN a

knowledge and experience makes ASEAN a stronger community and it's

stronger community and it's understanding where where that is um

understanding where where that is um that I think is the what has served us

that I think is the what has served us well in Europe and the UK certainly.

well in Europe and the UK certainly. >> Thank you and we look forward the

>> Thank you and we look forward the collaboration with UK to support us.

collaboration with UK to support us. Yeah, you take Mario please.

Yeah, you take Mario please. >> Thank you very much. Um

>> Thank you very much. Um I believe that the Asaiani community is

I believe that the Asaiani community is being governed by solidarity and

being governed by solidarity and cooperation. Right? We may be we may

cooperation. Right? We may be we may have uh different opportunities,

have uh different opportunities, different resources and if we go to the

different resources and if we go to the energy sector, we have also different

energy sector, we have also different situations not only in terms of

situations not only in terms of electrification

electrification but uh primarily on energy resources. We

but uh primarily on energy resources. We have

have but through sharing, through openness,

but through sharing, through openness, transparency and cooperation,

transparency and cooperation, collaboration among us. I think uh and I

collaboration among us. I think uh and I believe borrowing from our minister's

believe borrowing from our minister's statement that uh asan is characterized

statement that uh asan is characterized by unity in diversity. Thank you.

by unity in diversity. Thank you. >> Thank you Mario. Um Juan Marina.

>> Thank you Mario. Um Juan Marina. >> Okay. Uh to answer your question Benny

>> Okay. Uh to answer your question Benny four steps. The first one you need to

four steps. The first one you need to embrace Apike.

embrace Apike. Apike is actually your national journey.

Apike is actually your national journey. You know you cannot treat Apike as a

You know you cannot treat Apike as a different document. You know you need to

different document. You know you need to embrace it everyone of the country.

embrace it everyone of the country. Okay. Then only you can because Apache

Okay. Then only you can because Apache is our guiding principle our blueprint

is our guiding principle our blueprint that we need uh to to follow through

that we need uh to to follow through whatever that have in the APA that that

whatever that have in the APA that that is the first one. Secondly is actually a

is the first one. Secondly is actually a strong coordination.

strong coordination. Who's going to do that?

Who's going to do that? >> Yeah,

>> Yeah, >> that is the answer. Who's going to do

>> that is the answer. Who's going to do the coordination? There are 10 ASEAN

the coordination? There are 10 ASEAN members.

members. Uh I I believe Timas will come in you

Uh I I believe Timas will come in you know. So who's who who are we going to

know. So who's who who are we going to give that task the coordination task?

give that task the coordination task? Will it be Asan secretarian or will it

Will it be Asan secretarian or will it be ace who's going to coordinate?

be ace who's going to coordinate? Because through strong through strong

Because through strong through strong coordination then only you can have a

coordination then only you can have a very successful monitoring you know

very successful monitoring you know without co coordination

without co coordination it will not help you know and thirdly is

it will not help you know and thirdly is the implementation

the implementation how's going you how are you going to do

how's going you how are you going to do I mean to implement all the APG

I mean to implement all the APG initiative because to me when you want

initiative because to me when you want to to to develop an APG initiative the

to to to develop an APG initiative the first thing is definitely is about

first thing is definitely is about investment ment and funding and also

investment ment and funding and also technologies

technologies then where that is where when all our DP

then where that is where when all our DP our dialogue partners and international

our dialogue partners and international organization play its role you need to

organization play its role you need to have a strong collaboration strong

have a strong collaboration strong networking with the DPIOS

networking with the DPIOS in term of the imple implementation yeah

in term of the imple implementation yeah >> and finally the four the fourth step the

>> and finally the four the fourth step the last one is the political will you know

last one is the political will you know you don't have The political way you

you don't have The political way you can't do it. This is a different country

can't do it. This is a different country you know is among different country.

you know is among different country. Therefore only you can you have a strong

Therefore only you can you have a strong political will then only it can brings

political will then only it can brings together and you can turn the vision

together and you can turn the vision into a reality. That is my answer. It

into a reality. That is my answer. It needs the four steps.

needs the four steps. >> Right. So thank you very much Marina.

>> Right. So thank you very much Marina. That's encompassing four steps. Uh maybe

That's encompassing four steps. Uh maybe I start first the zero step. Please

I start first the zero step. Please download the the API document and re

download the the API document and re long-term road map in the websites. Uh

long-term road map in the websites. Uh but uh the ASEAN center for energy is

but uh the ASEAN center for energy is guided by the ASEAN member states the

guided by the ASEAN member states the support the implementation of this

support the implementation of this regional blueprint with the strong

regional blueprint with the strong support from the our partner from

support from the our partner from dialogue partners. So together in this

dialogue partners. So together in this journey um to achieve this common goal.

journey um to achieve this common goal. Um let's conclude um the session that we

Um let's conclude um the session that we have. Let's join me to thanks and

have. Let's join me to thanks and congratulate of all of our panel. Puan

congratulate of all of our panel. Puan Marina Maf deputy secretary

Marina Maf deputy secretary secretary general of the ministry of

secretary general of the ministry of energy transition and water

energy transition and water transformation Petra Malaysia under

transformation Petra Malaysia under secretary of department of energy

secretary of department of energy Philippines Mr. Mario Marasan and also

Philippines Mr. Mario Marasan and also Infana Deitria Southeast Asia regional

Infana Deitria Southeast Asia regional lead energy and industrial decarbonation

lead energy and industrial decarbonation of the British high commission in

of the British high commission in Singaporea. Thank you very much for your

Singaporea. Thank you very much for your fellow expert and thank you very much

fellow expert and thank you very much for all of our audience.

for all of our audience. >> Right. Thank you P Benny for moderating

>> Right. Thank you P Benny for moderating that wonderful panel session and thank

that wonderful panel session and thank you to our panelists for that insightful

you to our panelists for that insightful session. Uh do stand by for the photo

session. Uh do stand by for the photo session. I would like to invite our

session. I would like to invite our panelists and moderator to please take

panelists and moderator to please take us a few step forward uh on stage to

us a few step forward uh on stage to stand by for the group photo session

stand by for the group photo session together.

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