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The city council meeting addressed several key issues including public input on flight school noise and a former city administrator, approval of consent agenda items, proclamation of "Extra Mile Day," budget presentations for the Urban Renewal Authority and Downtown Development Authority, amendments to collective bargaining ordinances, adoption of the 2026 budget and pay plan, decisions on graywater regulations and ballot issue support, and the approval of budgets for various General Improvement Districts.

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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I

will call to order the city council

meeting for October 28th, 2025. And we

will begin with the pledge of allegiance.

allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

United States of America and to the

republic for which it stands, one nation

under God, indivisible, with liberty and

justice for all.

>> Thank you. Right.

Right.

Um, clerk back, can we do a roll call, please?

please?

>> Mayor Mongat >> here.

>> here.

>> Mayor Prom Wong. >> Hello.

>> Hello.

>> Hello. Councelor Barnes,

>> good evening. Councelor Freedelland >> here.

>> here.

>> Councelor Gyos,

>> good evening.

>> Councelor Samson,

>> good evening.

>> And councelor Tapia Vega >> here.

>> here.

>> Mayor, we have a quorum.

>> Thank you so much. All right, we'll

begin tonight's meeting with public

input. This is your opportunity to

address the council on any topics. Uh

you'll have 5 minutes to speak. Um if

you wish to speak, uh please make sure

that you fill out one of these speaker

forms uh that you can access through the

glass doors in the back. Can pass it

over to Clerk Beck and we'll get you on

the list. Uh you may also call in as

well. Uh please state your name and

address before you speak as well. So we

have that for the record. Tonight we'll

Uh good evening everybody. Thanks again

for your time. Uh I'm returning on the

same topic as before, which is basically

the uh flight school noise coming out of

Rock Mountain Airport. uh down in

Jefferson County. I wanted to kind of

display something. You probably can't

see it well with the small piece of

paper, but the yellow lines on this p

piece of paper are basically flights

over Lafayette

uh over a 10-minute period. And this was

on October 8th uh from 8:40 in the

morning to 8:50 in the morning. and

essentially 10 flights flying over

Lafayette uh based upon the FAA change

in uh the flight path having all the

return flights going over 287 down to to

um Jefferson County Airport. So I just

want to let the rest of the audience

take a quick look at this. So this is

the issue. We got noise over Lafayette.

We got flight schools uh bombarding our

city, our county, our citizens uh with

the flight noise and essentially uh we

need to take proactive measures to try

to get this to stop. We're affecting uh

our children. We got three schools right

in that flight zone. We got the

elementary school, we got the middle

school, and we got the high school uh

that are getting hit with that. We got

the citizens and we also had the

wildlife. Uh last time I was here, I

submitted a picture of an eagle on a

power pole with a plane right above it.

Uh we got uh osprey. I've been over at

Wanuka Lake. They're hovering above

trying to do some fishing and the planes

are coming through and then the osprey

disperse when we got these airplanes

coming overhead.

Uh there's other wildlife that are

impacted as well. And that's not to

mention the impact to the recreational

and open space users when we have

constant noise going over the city. This

is not a one-off picture. This is

happening if not daily, very frequently

as far as fat getting hit with the

noise. So I know there's an election

coming up. There'll be some new members,

maybe some measures and other things

that are going to be following in

sequence. Uh, as that goes, there's

probably a few things going on at this

time. And so, I'm again asking for

action. Don't let the subject fall off

the radar. We want to keep on top of it.

We got to act now and not wait until u

further down the road because the longer

this trend goes on, the harder it's

going to get to get adjusted. both with

the FAA, Jefferson County, and the

public entities uh involved in the situation.

Uh the other thing, uh if you haven't

seen it already, there was a a news

story by CBS News where they had Boulder

County is one of the most dangerous

airspaces in the whole country. Okay?

And that's because we have all these

airports within the county, flight

schools, uh planes flying in between the

flight schools and

uh just last week uh crash at Erie

during some of that heavy wind days. Uh

two people died. They were practicing

their touch and goes in the windy

conditions. And so again, you know, it's

just a matter of time before one of

those ends up at the wrong place at the

wrong time and hurts more people on the

ground. So

that's all I have for now. I appreciate

your time. Thank you. And uh everybody,

please speak up uh if you are concerned

with the issue. Uh more representation

is welcome. So thank you. Of

>> course. Thank you so much. Okay, next up

>> Karen Norbec, 800 East Jio. Good

evening. In April of 2023, I stood here

to speak about former city administrator

Fritz Sprag at his last meeting.

Councelor Briggs was there on the dis as

were some of you. I wanted to come back

and talk about him again after learning

of his passing. I pulled out what I read

back then and realized with a little

editing it still applied. So, I'm going

to read it again. When former city

administrator Gary Kpaki left after 20

years, I was worried. A new city

administrator for Lafayette, some

totally new person running our city,

this was not good. Then came the long

wait as council hired a company to do a

nationwide search and do all the

behindthe-scenes work until there were

two candidates that were introduced to

the public during a Q&A with the

council. I sat in my usual seat at the

back of the room as the first candidate

came out. I was not impressed. Then

Fritz walked out. Halfway through the

interview, I whispered to Vicky Uland.

He's the one. He's head and shoulders

the better candidate. I remember I made

a heart with my hands to some of the

counselors when we were leaving the

building. I went to the public meet and

greet at the golf course clubhouse and

got to chat with him for a while. We

were supposed to fill out some type of

form and turn it in giving our feedback

on the candidates. I didn't do that. I

just went to the counselors in the room

and said, "It's Fritz." That's my

feedback. Pick Fritz. And luckily for

Lafayette, that's what happened. The

city administrator has a complex job

that covers all aspects of running a

city. They need to be able to manage

people, understand finances, planning,

and land use. They have to be tuned into

the essence of the city they run, be

prepared to have a new council every two

years, and respond to residents

concerns. But beyond all of that, they

must have the type of personality that

fits the town. Fritz had that in

abundance. Just talking to him for a

short time, and it shone through.

Because he brought all those skills to

the table along with his personal style,

he was able to change our relationship

with Erie and craft a global agreement

with them, something that didn't seem

possible. He finished what Gary started

by adding the Wanuka Centennial Farm to

our open space portfolio along with

acres of farmland and the Lowe's

property. He had to handle the pandemic

and the cyber attack all while working

to make changes to the staff by hiring

new department heads and creating new

positions. Let's not forget the

discovery of what he called the smoking

deal developers had due to our cash and

loo water rates and the work done to

change that. During all this, the

comprehensive plan update was happening.

Early on, I knew I could contact Fritz

with concerns and issues and he would

take the time to listen and discuss them

with me. that never wavered and I was

always so grateful for that. I got some

laughs when I said at that meeting that

the best thing he did was to get new

chairs for those of us who spent a lot

of time sitting in this chamber. All

kidding aside, though, he was a perfect

hire at the right time and the council

that made that decision still deserves

our thanks. Fritz brought our city many

steps forwards and I still miss him. I

watched closely and saw the

transformation in real time. What he did

made the Lafayette I love an even better

place. I finished speaking that night

with one final request. Could he please

leave a note in his office telling the

next person to just do whatever Karen

wants? And with a laugh, he said,

"Okay." I wasn't surprised to find out

later he did exactly that. Katie, we

need to talk about this later.

We stayed in touch and he would send me

updates on how he was doing and

photographs. I have one of him and his

husband Scott at a Broadway performance

of Chicago. My last memory of seeing him

in person is a great one. Sitting in the

Red Queen last year, drinking tea,

talking about the city and the trips

they were taking. The world just lost a

special person, and my heart goes out to

Scott, his family, friends, and those on

our city staff who worked closely with

him. Thank you.

All right.

Hi everyone. My name is Agnosia Perez. I

live on 211 East Emma Street. Uh good

evening council members. Thank you so

much for the time to meet with us

tonight and for allowing us to share

this opportunity with you all. Like I

said, my name is Agnosi Perez and I

serve as the director for Lafayette

Communities at Care or as many people

know it, Lafayette CTC. Lafayette CTC

was founded in 2016 when I first joined

to empower community members to identify

and implement strategies to prevent

substance use uh among Lafayette youth

and make every youth um in our community

uh have access to resources, support,

and advocacy needed for them to thrive.

What makes Lafayette CDC unique is that

we don't identify solutions for youth.

We identify solutions with youth. And I

have a few of those youth here tonight

if you can raise your hand.

>> Awesome. and some of our coalition

members as well. We meet once a month,

always over dinner and through

subcommittees as needed. We have a key

leaderboard which includes uh trusted

local partners, our previous chief of

police, uh Chief Basher, and hopefully

our interim chief as well. Uh Sister

Carman CEO Suzanne Crawford and local

school administrators. Past members

include former mayor prom Gustav Raina

and council members Chelsea Bana. Uh we

who've helped guide our coalition

systems level approach. Since its

inception, Boulder County Public Health

has served as our backbone agency,

employing our staff, managing our

finances, and contracting with the state

through the Colorado Department uh

Department of Public Health and

Environment, otherwise known as CDPHE.

However, the current structure is set to

end June of 2026 uh when the new

Elevating Prevention in Colorado or EPIC

program begins. Um

so, why are we here tonight? The EPIC

grant is a 5-year, $410,000 per year

opportunity from the Colorado Department

of Public Health and Environment. It's

designed to help communities like

Lafayette build a coordinated prevention

systems to address youth mental health,

family connection, and substance use. To

be eligible, each community needs an

administrative backbone, an organization

or local government entity that can hold

the grant in contact with the state. We

originally approached Sister Carmen

Community Center to explore that role.

Sister Corman strongly supported our

coalition in applying this grant for

this grant. But unfortunately, we're

unable to take on the opportunity

because they were responding to SNAP

funding cuts and the growing demand for

direct relief services. That is why

we're here tonight to ask that city

council and that city of Lafayette serve

as our backbone and official applicant

for this grant. We understand that this

is a lastminute request, but that's only

because we had to pivot from Sister

Karma's decision. We're passionate about

this work and we simply need the city to

give us a chance.

and for you all to believe in the

coalition and the youth and families who

thrive in it.

So, here's what this partnership looks

like. The city of Lafayette would be

listed as the official applicant and

backbone for this organization. The city

would complete a one-time financial risk

assessment, sign the contract with city

if the grant were to be awarded, and

receive 50% of that indirect rate,

roughly about six uh $61,500 per year to

cover any administrative overhead.

Bridges of Opportunity led by the

director Andy McCulla. Uh a trusted

local nonprofit would handle all

day-to-day fiscal and administrative

work including reimbursements, payroll,

accounting, and compliance. Um they

would also serve as my direct

administrative supervisor, ensuring

fiscal accountability and compliance

with CDPHE. Lafayette CDC would continue

to lead all uh programmatic work,

building partnerships, running youth

initiatives, and measuring outcomes. In

short, the Lafayette uh the city holds

the grant. Bridges of opportunity

manages the work and CTC, our coalition

delivers the impact. This structure

ensures ensures full transparency and

strong oversight um while keeping the

workload manageable and minimal for the

city of Lafayette.

In order to make this happen, uh we

would propose a light touch

accountability plan. 30 to 45 minute

monthly or by monthly check-ins with

bridges of opportunity and I um

quarterly one pager financial snapshots

from Bridges of Opportunity summarizing

funds and how they're spent and the

reimbursement process and then one

annual review to present impact data um

financial updates and evaluation

findings to city council. This gives the

city visibility without any

administrative burden.

Through this grant, we implement we

would implement two complimentary

programs that strengthen families and

youth. Number one, the strengthening

families program, an evidence-based

model that helps parents and youth build

communication, trust, and resilience.

Number two, our locally created Espasio,

a youth-driven program that builds

belonging, leadership, and pro-social

connection, especially for under

reppresented and underserved underserved

youth in our community. Together, they

will create a two generation prevention

approach that supports both young people

and their families. We will track

outcomes using data from the Healthy

Kids Colorado survey, attendance

metrics, and coalition designed surveys

along with required programming tracking

measures. We're proud to work alongside

trusted community partners. I know I

have 1 second left, but thank you all so

much for your time. Again, we are deeply

rooted in Lafayette. We want this to

stay in Lafayette. Thank you all so much

for your consideration.

>> Of course. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

it.

>> All right. Um, well, that is all the

speaker forms that I'm seeing for

tonight. I'm also not seeing any callers

online. Are there any other members in

person that wish to speak during this time?

time?

Okay. All right. Seeing none and seeing

no callers online either, I will close

public input.

Um, and just so you all aware, those of

you that are new to our city council

meetings, um, although we don't do Q&A

during public comment, if you wish to

hear a response um, from your comments,

you may wait till the very end of the

meeting during council comments when we

bring it up, or you may have a member of

staff or the city council reach out to

you at a later point. Um, but um,

otherwise, you know, we we have other

business to take care of tonight. Um, so

you're more than welcome to stick around

for that or head out at any point um,

uh, that you wish. Thank you. All right,

moving forward to the consent agenda. Uh

we have several items including October

uh including item A, October 14, 2025

city council meeting minutes. Octo item

B resolution number 2025-72 approving an

intergovernmental agreement with the

Lafayette urban renewal authority. Item

Contract with Johnson Miriam and

Thompson Incorporated water and

wastewater comprehensive plan update.

Item D change order number six uh

incorporated South Road multimotal

improvement project construction

management and inspection services. Item

E, motion to approve a cooperative

agreement with Lafayette Urban Renewal

Authority regarding the 7800 block of

South Public Road Streetscape

improvements. Item F, motion to approve

a cooperative agreement with Lafayette

Urban Renewal Authority regarding the

South Bera Road revitalization area. And

that's all uh any items that council

would like to pull, please? >> Nope.

>> Nope.

>> I move to approve the consent agenda.

>> Second. All right, we have a motion to

second on that. Any further discussion?

All right. All those in favor, please

say I. I I

>> Are there any opposed?

>> None opposed. That passes unanimously.

Thank you.

>> Okay. On to proclamations for tonight.

We have one proclamation. This is item

G, extra mile day for November 1st,

2025. Councelor Gyos.

>> Whereas the city of Lafayette is a

community that acknowledges that a

special vibrancy exists within the

entire community when its individual

residents collectively go the extra mile

in personal effort. volunteerism and

service. And whereas the city of

Lafayette is a community that encourages

its residents to maximize their personal

contributions to the community by giving

of themselves wholeheartedly and with

total effort, commitment, and conviction

to their individual ambitions, family,

friends, and community. And whereas the

city of Lafayette is a community that

chooses to shine a light on and

celebrate individuals and organizations

within its community who go the extra

mile in order to make a difference and

lift up fellow members of their

community. And whereas the city of

Lafayette acknowledges the mission of

Extra Mile America to create 550

extra mile cities in America and is

proud to support Extra Mile Day on

November 1st, 2025.

Now therefore, the mayor and city

council of the city of Lafayette,

Colorado, do hereby proclaim November

1st, 2025 to be extra mile day and

encourage individuals in the community

to take the time to not only go the

extra mile in their own lives, but to

also acknowledge all those who are

inspirational in their efforts and

commitments to make their organizations,

families, communities, countries, or

world a better place. So moved. >> Second.

>> Second.

>> All right. Motion and second on that

proclamation. Any comments or discussion?

discussion?

>> Uh councelor Barnes.

>> Thank you, Mayor. I can't help but

recognize the people sitting in this

room. Uh thank you for the extra miles

that you go. Uh I I was trying to think

of a list of names and I I can't name

everybody, but the city's amazing. uh

the people who are here uh go the extra

mile. So I appreciate you coming in to

tell council what you need to tell them

uh do the work you are doing and

continuing to live um I think what we

would hope people would do in their

lives and be participate in their

community and take care of each other.

>> So I just like to thank the the

residents of Lafayette for going the

extra mile.

>> Awesome. Thank you. Appreciate that. I

echo that. Any other comments? All

right. Well, we'll take a motion. Uh we

do have a motion actually and a second.

So, we'll take a vote. Um all those in

favor, please say I. I. Are there any opposed?

opposed?

>> None opposed. That proclamation passes

unanimously. Thank you. All right. That

brings us to presentations for tonight.

We just have one. This is item H. is

introduction to the 2026 Lafayette Urban

Renewal Authority budget and an

amendment to the 2025 Laf Lafayette

Urban Renewal Authority budget. We have

our economic development director here

uh to get the conversation started.

>> Great. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um

I'm here tonight as the Lur Executive

Director. I'm wearing a couple hats

tonight, so buckle up.

>> All right. Um, so tonight I'm going to

be introducing our 2026 budget and also

amending our 2025 budget for Laura.

So an agenda for this evening, I'm going

to go through the budget process and

then jump into the budget overview of

both the revenue expenses and then key

initiatives and open it up for questions

and feedback.

So before jumping in, I know that um

we've been talking about Laura winding

down for a couple years now, but wanted

to just um remind everyone about where

we are in this phase. So Laura was

established in October 1999 as the lead

revitalization entity for our downtown.

And this past October in uh October

2024, our tax increment financing

expired. And so with that, we went

through the process of um electing or

voting for approval of a downtown

development authority to take over that

position. And so we're really in our

final operational phase of Laura. And

that's what this budget reflects. is

really winding down everything,

expending funds, transferring projects

over to the city or the DDA. Um, and I

also just found these really fun photos

of what two buildings looked like in

1999, what they look like today. And so,

a lot of really great work that has

happened in our downtown. And, uh, good

to reflect for a moment.

So, our 2025 and 2026 budget process.

So, state statute governs um, how

special districts get their budgets

approved. And for our case with the

urban renewal authority, um Laura will

actually approve those budgets through

resolutions, but we present those to

council for feedback. And so on October

21st, I introduce the budget amendment

and the draft budget for 2026 to Laura.

Tonight, I'm presenting it for uh

council feedback and discussion. And

then on November 13th, I'll present the

final budget to Laura and have a public

hearing approving two resolutions, one

for the amendment and one for 2026.

So, I'll start with the 2025.

Um, state statute, you know, governs

that if uh a special district is going

to expend more funds than previously

budgeted, then they need to do an

amendment. And for our 2025 budget, we

collected additional property tax. This

is because property tax is collected in

our rears. And so, when we did our

original budget with our tiff expiring

in October, we weren't sure exactly how

much um property tax we would collect

this upcoming year. And so this

amendment just accurately reflects the

additional property tax. So we stopped

collecting sales tax tiff in October of

last 2024, but um we collected an

additional 900,000 for property tax. So

this amendment reflects those additional funds.

funds.

So for the expense budget um it's really

meant to wind down a lot of initiatives

and so that's why we have the downtown

development bucket as a majority of our

budget. Um and so this just gives a

summary of where those funds are within

our amendment. And then just reflecting

a little bit about the key initiatives.

So um we're spending staff time for the

windown. We're continuing some of our

core functions while the DDA really gets

up and running. So that includes Oldtown

marketing, our public parking lot

program, and then we have um a couple of

IGAs and cooperative agreements which

helps with this windown. So um as you

just approved tonight uh through the

consent agenda that includes the 7800

block streetscape project. This is

design and construction of new um

streetscape improvements, lighting,

public art, uh uh zeroscape landscaping

on the 700 800 block of uh South Public

Road and then also new alleyway

improvements including paving and then

storm drainage which will be really

great because we're seeing a lot of

revitalization on that block with some

new businesses open now with Peak to

Peak and Clea. Um for 108 North Public

Road, this is related to Laura providing

funds for the Chase Bank parking lot. Uh

DDA startup funds are related to $2

million for startup funds to help the

DDA get up and running for the first

five years. And then the South Boulder

Road revitalization project um is also a

cooperative agreement you approved in

the consent agenda um related to doing

an area plan, small business support and

district implementation. Um and so those

are the big things that we are working

towards this year. Um and this budget

reflects that. So for 2026 looking

forward, uh we have no new revenues. Um

so our last um this is our last year of

collecting property tax. Um the revenues

reflected in the budget in your packet

does not show any additional revenues.

And then for the expenses um this is

really meant to be the completion of

Laura hopefully. Um we still have two

properties that we need to dispose of

and so this next coming year is really

meant to wind down the transfer of

remaining assets selling those

additional two properties. And so, um,

you'll see that, you know, our budget

really shrinks in 2026 just with hoping

that, um, we'll be able to wrap

everything up in the 2026.

So, um, short and sweet, but, you know,

tonight I'm here to present the budget

and, uh, get any comments or get any

feedback. And then, like I said, I'll be

presenting this budget, um, uh, for

final approval for two resolutions in a

public hearing on November 13th with

Laura. So, happy to turn it back to the

mayor for any questions or feedback.

>> Great. Thank you so much for that

presentation. Um, yeah, I'll look to

council to see if anyone has questions,

feedback, thoughts on the presentation,

what's been presented.

Counselor breathing.

>> So, we have a healthy reserve every year.

year. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm.

>> Um, which normally is great, right? We

should have a reserve. Why do we have

reserve for the end of 2026?

Why would we need that in the butt? Am I

reading this correctly? looking at the

>> um so if we look at the budget um the

available uh fund balance ending all the

way over here would be zero. So the 300 318,000

318,000

is just what we plan to spend. So we

wouldn't have any more fund balance. Um

there is oh the total reserves that is

sorry that is related to loans that

Laura has um provided to different

businesses and property owners in towns

and so until those loans are forgiven or

exhausted we hold those on the books as

a promisary India trust. >> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> Yes. Sorry about that.

>> Is that all?

>> That's it.

>> Okay. Thanks.

>> Um other counselors. Councelor Barnes.

>> Thank you, Mayor. uh just like to say

being on the the council representative

on the downtown development authority

and having heard this process uh start

and some of the major concerns like

parking issues, the fund balance, how do

we get the DDA up and running, I'd just

like to say that this is what's

happening is what we were hoping would

happen as far as the handshakes between

Lur and the DDA and u that surprising

900k at the end. Um that was that's

pleasant and unexpected. Uh we'll

>> don't say no to it. Yeah.

>> No. So uh I from my from what I see

we're it's progressing just as we want

it to progress and hopefully we can um

conclude with those last two the what

needs to finish and then uh

>> yeah we're on a good path. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> That's all I have.

>> Cool. Thank you. Any other comments or questions?

questions?

Um just want to quickly recognize um the

Laura board and thank you um Director

Keing for all that you've done for

Laura. Um I don't know if you'll be

coming before council in regards to

Laura, so I just wanted to acknowledge

that and all that the um Laura has done

um for our community. Um so thank you so much.

much.

>> Appreciate it.

>> Thank you. All right. Well, I think

that's all from us.

>> Thank you.

>> Thank you so much.

Okay. Um so that brings us to now

regular business. Uh we have a few items

here. Um we're actually we're going to

begin with item I. This is a public

hearing uh for resolution number 2025-63

making certain findings of fact

regarding the proposed annexation of

property located at the southwest corner

of Arapjo in 287 uh located in Boulder

County, Colorado. Um

um for September uh as noted in the

daily camera, September 19th, the 22nd,

October 3rd, October 10th. This

resolution um just so the public is

aware um this resolution the resolution

for this item was revised um on October

27th, 2025 at 2:32 p.m. We had to make

slight adjustment to that and so just

wanted to uh make that clear uh before

we get started. So we have our planning

and building director here to get us

started. Thanks. Uh good evening, mayor

and city council. Um as stated, uh

tonight's application is a range at

Lafayette annexation number two, and

it's an eligibility hearing. Uh the

resolution associated is 25 uh 63.

As a public hearing, um the agenda is as

follows. I'll have an introduction. The

applicant is here. um Kensington

Development Partners uh will have their

presentation and then we'll come back

for staff analysis, council questions,

and then public input, public testimony

before the public hearing portion of the

meeting is closed, and then we'll move

on to council discussion, and then ask

for a motion.

So the three basic um steps required by

the state for an annexation process are

substantial compliance, tonight's

eligibility, hearing and determination,

and then a final action uh at some point

in the future. That substantial

compliance uh meeting occurred after the

petition was received on August 21st. Uh

that hearing occurred last month on

September 16th. And then tonight's

meeting is really to determine whether

or not um the parcel in question is

eligible for annexation according to

state statutes.

So giving us a little context about

where we are uh and how this relates and

then also kind of speaking to uh what

the mayor noted in terms of the update.

So the update uh to the agenda item uh

was just to kind of clarify that this is

a series annexation. We have the range

at Lafayette annexation number one which

has gone through uh eligibility hearing

uh and substantial compliance already

earlier this year. Uh we are now looking

at the range at Lafayette annexation

number two and the reason that's a

series annexation is that contiguity

requirement. Uh you can see silo and

westridge are in Lafayette. Um it those

are contiguous with the range at

Lafayette number one. Once the range at

Lafayette number one is annexed in then

the contiguity uh exists for the range

at Lafayette number two. And then the

other clarification uh the reason that

this isn't done all holistically was

that uh the range at Lafayette used to

be in Erie and that disconnected over

the summer. So until we knew that that

was going to be able to be a part of

that application, the other piece was

moving forward. Now we're kind of put a

pause on it in order for that second

piece to catch up.

So uh the map on the left is the land

use map um from our comprehensive plan.

The parcel in question is this rectangle

here. Uh and that red uh designation

clarifies that our land use uh

comprehensive plan and the land use land

use designation map. The comprehensive

plan from 2021 designated this as

adaptable commercial. So that just

suggests that Lafayette was anticipating

this coming into the city uh at that

time. And then the global settlement

agreement with Erie uh which was

mentioned earlier tonight uh also

reflects this property as being within

Lafayette's influence area and uh

reflects uh agreement that this property

would also uh develop within Lafayette.

So this is the we're kind of building on

uh the annexation process. This is a

little bit more substantial um

clarification of what that process is.

It also includes an annexation impact

report. We're here at that eligibility

hearing. Uh we'll move on to concurrent

review by staff uh that includes outside

referral agencies and we'll get into uh

and then eventually we get to the

decision point and that's when uh action

on this is actually binding. But that

more complicated uh review process that

involves zoning PUD plat and SPAR is

outlined here. We've gone over this in

the past. So this is just to kind of

indicate that this is how those all

dovetail together. how we require a

zoning application with annexation and

then how and when the PUD and Platt

application tie in. The SPAR is not

required as part of the annexation

process. Um but we are anticipating that

the applicant uh will uh fold that in at

some point too and then really the final

binding decision occurs uh way at the

end of the process.

Um, and so just to summarize for

tonight, the annexation uh eligibility

criteria are outlined in CRS uh 3112104

as well as the limitations that are

outlined in Colorado Revised Statutes 3112105.

3112105.

Uh, and that's what'll be presented

tonight by the applicant and then uh

I'll give you an analysis at the end. Uh

but this again does not constitute final

action by city council or represent the

council's position on the feasibility or

>> Good afternoon council members. Good

evening I should say. Um so like Stephen

said this is specifically the range at

Lafayette annexation number two.

>> And do you mind I know we've met

already. Do you mind introducing

yourself public? Thank you.

>> Uh, so my name is Edgar Crockett. I'm

with Kensington Development Partners.

Uh, I also have Lindsay Laida here with

me. She's our land use attorney and

she'll be going through, excuse me, some

of the legal ease, uh, that's Steven

referenced on the actual annexation

requirements uh, and eligibility

requirements. So, I'll hit the project

overview, a little bit of process uh,

and schedule, and then Lindsay will come

up and hit that eligibility

requirements. Um, so like Steven said,

um, right at the corner of Arapjo Road

and Highway 287, you can see the actual

indicated parcel highlighted on the map.

Um, and then again, Stephen did a great

job of hitting the fact that that that

large space to the um, southwest is the

range at Lafayette, annexation number

one. Um, and to that point, this is a

serial annexation in conjunction with

that uh, annexation number one. And so

this parcel specifically is just under 3

and 1/2 acres. When you consider it as a

whole between annexation number one and

number two, um it's just over 38 acres,

uh is what the pro project will be uh on

the whole.

So as Stephen mentioned, uh September

16th, we had our annexation resolution

to achieve substantial compliance. U

tonight we'll have our annexation

eligibility hearing. Um and then in

conjunction with that since we did have

the two annexations um we did restart

the actual sketch plan process um in

order to have one cohesive project under

the two annexation uh in conjunction

with the two annexation petitions. Um so

the intent to develop period for the

concept plan associated with this

project is currently open now. So if any

um members of the public have comments

uh that that concept plan is posted

online and is open for public comment at

this time. And so still still to come

obviously is the sketch plan which will

be subsequent to that uh intent to

develop period on the concept plan.

Obviously, there's neighborhood

meetings, planning commission, and city

council meetings associated with that

step, as well as each subsequent step

for the preliminary plat PUD, the final

plat PUD, and then ultimately the

annexation um final vote where it

becomes a binding annexation.

And then we will um also have the site

plan and architectural review for a

number of elements within the project uh

as a whole once we get through those

planning and entitlement phases. as well.

well.

>> So, I'll invite Lindsay up to talk

through the requirements.

>> Thank you.

>> Good evening, council mayor. Um, as

Edgar said, my name is Lindsay Laida.

I'm a land use attorney for Kensington,

helping with this annexation and

entitlements. Um, your staff report

tonight had a very thorough analysis of

the eligibility requirements and how

this annexation satisfies those. Um I'm

just going to quickly give a highlevel

overview of how we're complying and why

this annexation or this property is

eligible for annexation. Um so first

there is just one property owner here

and they own the entire portion of the

property. Um so we satisfy the Colorado

Constitution requirement there. Um and

then as Stephen mentioned as part of the

serial annexation um once annexation

number one is approved and annexed it

then immediately after that we'll have

the second annexation

um and we will at that time be 100%

contiguous with Lafayette. So we exceed

this 16 um requirement.

um these requirements here relating to a

community of interest that the property

will be urban or is urban or will be

urbanized and that the property is

integrated or capable of being

integrated with Lafayette um under the

annexation statute just by by a finding

that the property satisfies that 16

contiguous requirement um that provides

the basis um for finding compliance with

these three criteria.

In addition, as Stephen mentioned, um

this property has been planned to be

annexed and developed within AET. Um

it's um in the comprehensive plan. The

infrastructure is available. So um it it

satisfies all three of these

requirements. Um

no property is divided as part of this

annexation. We're taking the entire

parcel, again, one owner, um as part of

this annexation.

And um there there are no other pending

annexations for this property and it's

not a part of any other municipality.

Um finally, there's no impact to the

school district.

Um the property, as I'm sure you pass

often, it's certainly within, you know,

near Lafayette. I guess not technically

in yet, but um so no issue with it being

more than 3 miles away. Um, and there

there's no rightaway included in this

annexation, so no issues with with that.

Um, and that is um our presentation this

evening. If there's any questions, um,

we're happy to answer them. Thank you.

>> So, they've already gone through the 10

criteria that are outlined uh, in those

revised statutes 104 and 105. Uh 104 is

really the contiguity and kind of um

ability to serve um criteria. And then

10 105 is what's considered limitations.

Um and those are more like whether or

not it it is all of the property owners,

whether or not we're subdividing

property, whether or not we're taking a

portion of a road and not all of it.

Those are all restrictions that kind of

prevent us from meeting those

requirements. But as outlined tonight

and as summarized in the staff memo that

you guys received, uh staff's also found

that all of these criteria have been

met. Um so the other pieces that are

associated with the eligibility hearing,

it's pretty involved because it's got

state requirements. Uh we had to have

this meeting 30 to 60 days from the last

meeting. Uh tonight we're having it 41

days from the meeting in September. So

we meet that requirement. We also have

to have a public uh notification uh four

consecutive weeks and as the mayor

stated earlier in uh tonight's meeting

uh we satisfied those with the dates

that are outlined there. Uh and then we

do provide notice to all special

districts including the school district

and then we had to provide uh annexation

impact report that was delivered to

Boulder County as part of this

application. that's all been satisfied

and then written notice uh about the

public hearing was mailed to property

owners within 700 ft of the property and

signs were posted on all along all of

the adjacent lights away. So, if

resolution 2563 is passed tonight, uh

you'll basically just be allowing the

application to proceed through the

process, um and then other associated

development applications as outlined in

that slide earlier, uh will come back to

planning commission and city council as

they get to that stage. Uh and the

public also importantly will have

additional opportunities to comment um

on the annexation and those other

applications. And as mentioned, just so

that things don't get confused, we

received a intent uh to develop portion.

So we don't fully have a sketch line

application yet. This is a

pre-application or presubmittal

requirement. We've had a pre-application

meeting and then it follows with the

intent to develop that was received uh

last week and posted online. That 10day

period uh started yesterday. So the the

public, not you guys, gets more uh

detail on what that application is. and

we're expecting that that will advance

the planning commission and city council

for your consideration and feedback uh

in the next couple of months. So that's

it for my presentation. I'm here for

questions if you guys have them.

>> Um yes, so we'll start with council

questions now before we get to public

testimony. Um and just to point of

clarification for members of the public

or or members of council if need be. Um,

once again, this is a uh annexation

eligibility hearing. Um, and so we're

just, you know, double-checking the

criteria that's been that's uh been put

forward by the state of Colorado under

revised uh statutes 31-12-104

and 105. Um, and seeing if this is

eligible for annexation. We are not

annexing any property tonight. That will

come at a later date depending on how

the hearing goes tonight. Um, but are

there any questions from council about

any of those eligibility requirements or

what's been presented in front of us today?

today?

>> Councelor Samson.

>> And the reason this was not a part of

the range number one annexation was

because it was owned by a separate

>> it was currently within so it wouldn't

have met one of those um what are they

called? Um

limitation requirements because it was

technically within Erie. So it had to

get disconnected before we could we

could process it as an application. So,

does that make sense? >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Thank you.

>> Any other questions?

>> All right. No questions

for now. Um, all right. This is a public

hearing. Um, so if there are any members

of the public that wish to speak

regarding this topic, um, you may come

All right.

I'm not seeing any speaker forms in

front of me, nor am I seeing any folks

that want to speak in person. I'm

checking online now as well, and I do

not see any callers. Um, so with that,

Okay. Um, so now council has the

opportunity to discuss um this pre-ex

preandition application. Um, so and then

if not, we'll take a motion. So I just

want to see if there are any items that

No. Okay. Uh, then we'll take a motion

I move to approve resolution number 2025-63

2025-63

making certain findings of fact

regarding the proposed annexation of

property located at the southwest corner

of Arapo Road in US Highway 287 located

in Boulder County, Colorado.

>> Do we have a second? >> Second.

>> All right. Um, we have a motion second.

Any further discussion? All right. All

those in favor, please say I.

>> I. Are there any opposed?

>> None opposed. That passes unanimously.

Thank you.

>> And thank you all for joining us this

evening as well. Appreciate it. Okay,

Okay,

we're going to move right along

to item J. Um this is first reading of

ordinance number 22 series 2025 amending

chapter 86 of collective bargaining for

firefighters and chapter 87 collective

bargaining for police officers uh to

allow for collective bargaining

agreements with terms of less than 3

years. Our deputy city manager is here

to get us started.

>> Good evening mayor and city council.

We're here to talk about the ordinance

pertaining to police and fire collective

bargaining and the terms of bargaining.

I'm going to give you a little bit of

background and go through some ordinance

language and motion language. Um I do

want to recognize that we have Sergeant

Tyler Maynard here. He is um our lead

for the FOP and um fire the IAFF

representative intended to come at the

last meeting but was unable to make it

this evening. But we have um kind of

support from both parties, all parties

involved and we worked on this um

together with the city attorneys. So um

in 2025 we engaged in collective

bargaining with the fire department um

represented by IIAFF 4620 and with the

Lafayette Police Department, the FOP

Lodge 3. Um this lies in sections 86 and

87 of the code. And currently in the

code we require a three-year collective

bargaining agreement. Um so during the

process we had several conversations um

that led us to um really discuss the

kind of terms that are in the code and

we all mutually agreed that an update to

this section of code would be beneficial

to our future collective bargaining efforts.

efforts.

So the purpose of this change would be

to change the language. It's a pretty

simple change in the code to up to three

years. And so instead of requiring a

three-year um bargaining agreement, we

would have up to three years. So it

could be a one-year or a two-year or a

three-year agreement. Um we found that

this that we had some challenges in

addressing e economic fluctuations and

this would give us some flexibility

um in kind of better understanding

economic fluctuations particularly over

the past few years with collective

bargaining um with the IAFF. This has

been a real challenge with the kind of

economic conditions and this will always

this will also help us address the kind

of lack of precision that we found in

the market forecasting over the the

longer time horizon of a three-year

period. Um we have had lots of

conversations about reopeners and side

letters and that type of thing and um

it's it's nice if we can have a

collective bargaining agreement that we

can flow follow through the terms

without those types of um kind of side

letters. So we all agreed to that. So,

this is really also aligned with

bargaining agreements that we looked at

in almost all other communities um in

our area that are more two-year

bargaining terms or that allow for

flexibility. We didn't see any other

three-year um terms. So, this is a

pretty minor change as I mentioned. It

amends chapter 8615

and 8715 in the firefighter and police

officer code respectively. And this

basically changes it to um a duration

duration of up to 3 years um instead of

a duration of 3 years.

So we have motion language before you

for ordinance number 22 series 2025.

>> Awesome. Thank you so much. Are there

any questions from council or for staff

or for

>> No. Okay. We'll take a motion. I move to

approve on first reading ordinance

number 22 series 2025 amending chapter

86 collective bargaining for

firefighters and chapter 87 collective

bargaining for police officers of the

code of ordinances to allow for

collective bargaining agreements with

terms of less than 3 years.

>> Second motion and second. Any further discussion?

discussion?

>> All right, sounds good. All those in

favor, please say I. >> I.

>> I.

>> Are there any opposed? None opposed.

That passes unanimously. Thank you so much.

much.

>> All right. Thank you.

>> Okay, that was a

quick one, but now we're getting into

the budget. Uh once again, if folks

folks are um folks are sticking around

for items uh later on in the agenda,

you're more than welcome to stay. U you

can also access the meetings at home

through video um and on TV, YouTube as well.

well.

>> Um so um otherwise, you can hang out

with us all night. Um, so next we're on

to item K. These are items uh pertaining

to the city of Lafayette 2026 budget. We

have our CFO here. Um, there's several

items um underneath here um including

second reading of series 2025

appropriating funds for the oper

operation of the city for the fiscal

year 2025 adoption of the 2026 pay plan

e resolutions. And so I will let our CFO

get us started.

>> Great. Well, thanks for that was a great

summary all that we're doing tonight

around our second reading of the

ordinance, the pay plan, and the fee

updates as well for people this evening

on the 2026 recommended budget. So, um

our agenda, we're going to talk about

the process and overview, follow up from

first reading, uh fee resolutions, and

then motion language was also provided.

Budget process overview. So, you we

consistently show this and the uh

circles have been moving. So, we are in

October and uh this is our second

hearing. Uh council has to adopt the

budget no later than the last Thursday

in October.

Uh so the recommended budget for 2026 is

145 million. Little over 53 million of

that is general fund and close to 92

million in dedicated funds.

So we have our 2026 revenue overview

here by fund and by type. So spending

about 117.6 million or excuse me um

receiving 117.6 million in revenues. Uh

that's slightly down from 2025. uh

largely due to um intergovern

intergovernmental revenue uh not doing

as many um didn't get as many grants um

and still doing significant capital in

2026 but um didn't receive um as much

grant funding um as you did uh south

boulder road improvements uh highway 719

um so uh that's the slight uh reduction

in revenue from last year we did predict

um a slight increase in sales and use

tax about 2% % 4% increase in property

tax um for revenue. So those are the

highlights and then we have our

expenditures for 2026 145 million. Um

again this is also slightly down from

the anticipated budget from 2025.

Um personnel is up. Capital again is

slightly down um due to uh less

expenditure um due to less

intergovernmental revenue. Um, and then

we also reduced operating slightly from 2025.

Uh,

oops, I'm going the wrong way. Sorry

about that. And then our 2026 pay plan

highlights. We have the full-time and

part-time pay plan. Combination of

market-based range adjustments and

merit-based increases. General

employees, our average increase is 3%.

Salary ranges are all above the 2026

state minimum wage as well as all pay

plans are also above the state minimum

wage requirements. Police are receiving

a 4% increase per their collective

bargaining agreement in 2026. Fire is

receiving a 3% increase per their

collective bargaining agreement and

there is range movement uh happening in

2026 as well in alignment with the market.

market.

So summary highlights again rising costs

seen across all categories of

expenditures. A review of actual versus

budgeted expenditure alignment took a

really close look at what we've been

spending in the past and our revenues

coming in and how we make those work. Um

so some reallocation of budget within

funds. Uh and a focus on maintaining pro

progress made on compensation plan and

philosophy address and meeting rising

operating costs and proactively plan and

address capital needs. uh the detail

your budget book uh and your second

reading memo are all in your packet.

There's a lot of detail there as well as

responses to your first reading

questions. Um and so just wanted to and

thank all the staff and the departments

for the preparation of this document and

for your uh review at our budget introduc

introduc

uh in August as well as our first

reading and this your final second

reading. Um so then we have the fee

resolutions. Um so we have the Gulf

Enterprise uh current um cost recovery

and market analysis that happens um

solid waste uh which is your trash with

Republic uh our contract stipulates that

increase is based on the Denver Aurora

liquid CPI and then there's also an

admin fee for cost recovery

uh utility rates uh recently did a

refell rate study for water water

reclamation and storm water and thus uh

the 2022 increases that we discussed at

the August 28th budget workshop are part

of this 2026 budget.

So, average monthly bill impact for

utility fees, uh waste management, uh

$165 bill increase that includes the admin fee as well as um the 2026

admin fee as well as um the 2026 increase for um the uh typical single

increase for um the uh typical single family residential customer. Water

family residential customer. Water utility fees, um the increase is $7.14.

utility fees, um the increase is $7.14. That's uh estimate based on single

That's uh estimate based on single family residential customer using 3,000

family residential customer using 3,000 gallons per month. Uh water reclamation

gallons per month. Uh water reclamation fees, additional $3.89

fees, additional $3.89 um again based on a single family

um again based on a single family residential um customer. And then storm

residential um customer. And then storm water fees and additional $16 bill

water fees and additional $16 bill increase in 2026.

increase in 2026. And then any questions? So again, this

And then any questions? So again, this is a real high overview. you've got all

is a real high overview. you've got all the detail and uh happy to have any

the detail and uh happy to have any questions and lots of help from staff.

questions and lots of help from staff. I'm just the messenger.

I'm just the messenger. >> Now, thank you for taking the time to

>> Now, thank you for taking the time to put all that together.

put all that together. >> Uh does council have questions on any of

>> Uh does council have questions on any of these items presented to us um

these items presented to us um regarding the budget? I know it's second

regarding the budget? I know it's second reading, so

reading, so but it's still if there's anything else

but it's still if there's anything else in councelor Samson.

in councelor Samson. >> Yeah. Um, can you talk a little bit more

>> Yeah. Um, can you talk a little bit more about the Indians Peaks golf course

about the Indians Peaks golf course fees? I I feel like

fees? I I feel like we missed a whole presentation.

>> Yeah. So, we are bringing uh information about our comprehensive fee study that's

about our comprehensive fee study that's covering both golf and recreation fees

covering both golf and recreation fees at the next meeting. Okay. um with golf

at the next meeting. Okay. um with golf fees for this year because we knew this

fees for this year because we knew this process and this project was going to

process and this project was going to take a little bit longer. We followed

take a little bit longer. We followed the same approach that we generally do

the same approach that we generally do with the golf course and have for many

with the golf course and have for many years. So, um we look at um our

years. So, um we look at um our operational costs, recovering those

operational costs, recovering those costs and then we're balancing also the

costs and then we're balancing also the competitiveness in the market. So, what

competitiveness in the market. So, what you're seeing is a roughly 3% increase

you're seeing is a roughly 3% increase from last year um and is pretty typical

from last year um and is pretty typical for our process. Okay.

for our process. Okay. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. Um, other questions from council

council this second reading.

Okay, >> motion language here.

>> motion language here. >> Okay, we'll take a motion if someone

>> Okay, we'll take a motion if someone feels ready, please.

feels ready, please. >> I move to approve on second reading

>> I move to approve on second reading ordinance number 21 series 2025

ordinance number 21 series 2025 appropriating funds for the operation of

appropriating funds for the operation of the city for the fiscal year of 2026.

the city for the fiscal year of 2026. >> Second.

>> Second. >> Motion and a second. Any other

>> Motion and a second. Any other discussion? Are all those in favor say

discussion? Are all those in favor say I?

I? >> I.

>> I. >> Are there any opposed? None opposed.

>> Are there any opposed? None opposed. That ordinance passes unanimously. Uh

That ordinance passes unanimously. Uh let's move on to the pay plan.

let's move on to the pay plan. >> I move to adopt the 2026 pay plan.

>> I move to adopt the 2026 pay plan. >> That's a great motion.

>> That's a great motion. >> Second.

>> Second. >> Motion and a second on the pay plan. Any

>> Motion and a second on the pay plan. Any comments or discussion on this?

comments or discussion on this? >> All those in favor, please say I.

>> All those in favor, please say I. >> I. Are there any opposed? None opposed.

>> I. Are there any opposed? None opposed. That passes unanimously. Finally, the

That passes unanimously. Finally, the resolution or multiple resolutions.

resolution or multiple resolutions. Never mind.

Never mind. >> Multiple resolutions on the fees. Each

>> Multiple resolutions on the fees. Each of the individual fees.

of the individual fees. >> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Never mind. Just this resolution,

>> Never mind. Just this resolution, please. Somebody use

please. Somebody use >> I move to approve resolution number 20

>> I move to approve resolution number 20 2564

2564 establishing the fees for the Indian

establishing the fees for the Indian Peaks Golf Course commencing January

Peaks Golf Course commencing January 1st, 2026.

1st, 2026. >> Second.

>> Second. >> Motion second. Any further discussion?

>> Motion second. Any further discussion? All those in favor, please say I. I. Any

All those in favor, please say I. I. Any opposed? None opposed. That passes

opposed? None opposed. That passes unanimously.

Next motion, please. I move to approve resolution number 202565

resolution number 202565 amending exhibit B quote city of

amending exhibit B quote city of Lafayette customer rates unquote of the

Lafayette customer rates unquote of the comprehensive residential refues

comprehensive residential refues recyclables and organics collection

recyclables and organics collection services contract between the city of

services contract between the city of Lafayette and Republic Services of

Lafayette and Republic Services of Denver to establish refugees recycling

Denver to establish refugees recycling and organics collection services rates

and organics collection services rates and establishing the monthly

and establishing the monthly administrative fee for residential

administrative fee for residential customer accounts commencing January

customer accounts commencing January 1st, 2026.

1st, 2026. >> Second.

>> Second. >> Motion second. Any further discussion?

>> Motion second. Any further discussion? All those in favor, please say I.

All those in favor, please say I. >> I. Are there any opposed? None opposed.

>> I. Are there any opposed? None opposed. That passes unanimously. Thank you. Next

That passes unanimously. Thank you. Next motion.

motion. >> I move to approve resolution number

>> I move to approve resolution number 2025-66

2025-66 establishing the storm water utility

establishing the storm water utility rates, fees, and charges commencing on

rates, fees, and charges commencing on January 1st, 2026.

January 1st, 2026. Second

Second >> motion and a second. Any further

>> motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I.

discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed say no. None opposed. That

Any opposed say no. None opposed. That passes unanimously. Thank you.

passes unanimously. Thank you. >> I move to approve resolution number

>> I move to approve resolution number 2025-67

2025-67 establishing the water utility rates

establishing the water utility rates fees and charges commencing January 1,

fees and charges commencing January 1, 2026.

2026. >> Second.

>> Second. >> Motion second. Any further discussion?

>> Motion second. Any further discussion? All those in favor, please say I. I. Are

All those in favor, please say I. I. Are there any opposed? None opposed. That

there any opposed? None opposed. That passes unanimously. Thank you. And

passes unanimously. Thank you. And finally,

finally, >> I move to approve resolution number

>> I move to approve resolution number 2025-68

2025-68 establishing the water reclamation

establishing the water reclamation utility rates, fees, and charges

utility rates, fees, and charges commencing January 1st, 2026.

commencing January 1st, 2026. >> Second

>> Second >> motion and a second. Any further

>> motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I.

discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed say no. None opposed.

>> I. Any opposed say no. None opposed. That passes unanimously as well.

That passes unanimously as well. Thank you.

Thank you. >> Okay. All right. So, we got first

>> Okay. All right. So, we got first reading, we got second reading, we got

reading, we got second reading, we got it all. We all the way through.

it all. We all the way through. Congratulations to everyone for getting

Congratulations to everyone for getting through that.

through that. All right. That brings us to item L for

All right. That brings us to item L for tonight. Resolution number 2025-69

tonight. Resolution number 2025-69 adopting an a budget and making

adopting an a budget and making appropriations for the fiscal year 2025

appropriations for the fiscal year 2025 and the fiscal year 2026 for the

and the fiscal year 2026 for the Lafayette Downtown Development

Lafayette Downtown Development Authority.

Authority. Thanks, Mayor and Council. Uh, I am here

Thanks, Mayor and Council. Uh, I am here as the DDA executive director for this

as the DDA executive director for this next presentation. Um, so as the mayor

next presentation. Um, so as the mayor mentioned, I'm going to be presenting

mentioned, I'm going to be presenting the 2025 and 2026 Lafayette DDA budget,

the 2025 and 2026 Lafayette DDA budget, and you're going to be considering a

and you're going to be considering a resolution for approval. This is

resolution for approval. This is different than Laura, and DDA's budget

different than Laura, and DDA's budget process is governed through state

process is governed through state statute where the governing body

statute where the governing body actually approves the uh budget. So, um,

actually approves the uh budget. So, um, the D, as just a second, the DDA is

the D, as just a second, the DDA is recommending a budget for you all to

recommending a budget for you all to approve. So, I'm going to go through the

approve. So, I'm going to go through the budget process, revenue, expenses,

budget process, revenue, expenses, including key outcomes and initiatives,

including key outcomes and initiatives, next steps, some discussion with some

next steps, some discussion with some proposed motion language.

proposed motion language. Um, so we started our budget process

Um, so we started our budget process earlier this summer, uh, where we held a

earlier this summer, uh, where we held a workshop and on August 11th, I brought

workshop and on August 11th, I brought forward a budget that aligned with our

forward a budget that aligned with our work plan on our, uh, early projects and

work plan on our, uh, early projects and initiatives that we want to accomplish.

initiatives that we want to accomplish. And then on our September 8th meeting,

And then on our September 8th meeting, um we I brought forward a recommended

um we I brought forward a recommended budget which they approved and are

budget which they approved and are bringing forward to council. So that is

bringing forward to council. So that is this evening. We'll I'll be going

this evening. We'll I'll be going through that budget and you'll be

through that budget and you'll be considering approval of a resolution for

considering approval of a resolution for both 2025 and 2026.

both 2025 and 2026. [Music]

[Music] So in starting the presentation, I

So in starting the presentation, I wanted to just reflect on um how we are

wanted to just reflect on um how we are approaching our budget process. So um as

approaching our budget process. So um as you all are familiar with the Oldtown

you all are familiar with the Oldtown tomorrow is our action plan for the DDA.

tomorrow is our action plan for the DDA. It is both the legal requirement, it's

It is both the legal requirement, it's the plan of development, but it also

the plan of development, but it also serves as a roadmap for our authority.

serves as a roadmap for our authority. And it really has a strong foundation of

And it really has a strong foundation of partnering with the city and

partnering with the city and implementing the community's vision and

implementing the community's vision and strategic plans. And we have um six

strategic plans. And we have um six priority uh focus areas which you can

priority uh focus areas which you can see on the screen here. And within that,

see on the screen here. And within that, we looked at the entire plan and wanted

we looked at the entire plan and wanted to think what can we what do we want to

to think what can we what do we want to prioritize for these first couple years.

prioritize for these first couple years. And with that, we had that workshop and

And with that, we had that workshop and we developed a a great work plan that we

we developed a a great work plan that we think that will um see a lot of success

think that will um see a lot of success and uh implement some some really

and uh implement some some really impactful things these first couple of

impactful things these first couple of years in the district. And with that,

years in the district. And with that, this budget complements that. So, I

this budget complements that. So, I wanted to kind of go through what we're

wanted to kind of go through what we're hoping to um accomplish.

hoping to um accomplish. So for revenue um as you're familiar

So for revenue um as you're familiar with um our DDA is funded through a tax

with um our DDA is funded through a tax increment financing where a portion of

increment financing where a portion of the sales and property tax um above the

the sales and property tax um above the base is reinvested within the district.

base is reinvested within the district. Um we are also very lucky that our urban

Um we are also very lucky that our urban renewal authority has um transferred

renewal authority has um transferred roughly $2 million to the DDA for start

roughly $2 million to the DDA for start funding for the first five years. This

funding for the first five years. This is really important because um the

is really important because um the increment these first years are is small

increment these first years are is small while we generate that um fund balance.

while we generate that um fund balance. And so this allows us to really have an

And so this allows us to really have an impact within the district and build on

impact within the district and build on the momentum of Laura. So those funds go

the momentum of Laura. So those funds go to the administrative fee, the parking

to the administrative fee, the parking lot program including maintenance and

lot program including maintenance and snow removal. Um, and also providing

snow removal. Um, and also providing buckets for small business support such

buckets for small business support such as capital grants, um, and district

as capital grants, um, and district support, marketing, farmers market, and

support, marketing, farmers market, and holiday lights, which are going up if

holiday lights, which are going up if you haven't noticed. Um, looking to

you haven't noticed. Um, looking to 2026,

2026, um, we have, this is our first year of

um, we have, this is our first year of collecting TIFF. And so, um, you can see

collecting TIFF. And so, um, you can see here that we're looking to get almost

here that we're looking to get almost 150,000 for projected revenue. And so

150,000 for projected revenue. And so our revenue for this uh first year is uh

our revenue for this uh first year is uh property tax, sales tax, interest, and

property tax, sales tax, interest, and then also miscellaneous revenue is

then also miscellaneous revenue is related to loan repayments that Laura is

related to loan repayments that Laura is getting is just going to be transferred

getting is just going to be transferred over to the DPA.

over to the DPA. >> So for property tax, um we're lucky that

>> So for property tax, um we're lucky that we have 25 years of a special district

we have 25 years of a special district in Oldtown where we could look at

in Oldtown where we could look at historical trends from urban renewal and

historical trends from urban renewal and use um a similar uh uh forecasting for

use um a similar uh uh forecasting for what we think our property tax will be.

what we think our property tax will be. And so it assumes the uh same share of

And so it assumes the uh same share of base present value growth versus the tax

base present value growth versus the tax increment growth. Um the the property

increment growth. Um the the property tax gets reassessory or the base gets

tax gets reassessory or the base gets reassessed. And so this just follows

reassessed. And so this just follows that same trend. And then the base is

that same trend. And then the base is going to be set by the Boulder County

going to be set by the Boulder County Assessor's Office and they'll be the

Assessor's Office and they'll be the ones that actually determine the tiff

ones that actually determine the tiff amount. But we're taking a conservative

amount. But we're taking a conservative approach for this first year.

approach for this first year. For sales tax, um we also looked at

For sales tax, um we also looked at Oldtown sales tax trends, but also

Oldtown sales tax trends, but also citywide trends. And our base for our

citywide trends. And our base for our area is uh 1.75 million and that's based

area is uh 1.75 million and that's based off a 12-month period prior to when the

off a 12-month period prior to when the plan of development was approved. Um and

plan of development was approved. Um and so any increment above that 1 uh 75 goes

so any increment above that 1 uh 75 goes into the the DDA's reserves. Um we

into the the DDA's reserves. Um we projected a really conservative approach

projected a really conservative approach of 2.5. We are confident that we're

of 2.5. We are confident that we're going to actually get more because there

going to actually get more because there are some projects that have come online

are some projects that have come online that will generate sales tax, but until

that will generate sales tax, but until we actually see how the district does,

we actually see how the district does, we want to take a conservative approach

we want to take a conservative approach for these first couple years.

for these first couple years. So, moving on to expenses um for 2025

So, moving on to expenses um for 2025 with Allura uh transferring over those

with Allura uh transferring over those funds, we just have a a small amount

funds, we just have a a small amount that um we're putting towards

that um we're putting towards operational administrative repairs and

operational administrative repairs and maintenance um for the parking lots and

maintenance um for the parking lots and then downtown development for um uh some

then downtown development for um uh some small business support.

small business support. And then for 2026, this is when we

And then for 2026, this is when we really build on the momentum of Laura

really build on the momentum of Laura with this very colorful pie chart here.

with this very colorful pie chart here. Um where we're doing work in downtown

Um where we're doing work in downtown development, advertising, marketing,

development, advertising, marketing, professional services, streetscapes,

professional services, streetscapes, cultural arts, and community events. And

cultural arts, and community events. And I'll go through some of the key things

I'll go through some of the key things that are coming out of these buckets.

that are coming out of these buckets. So for these first three, uh the

So for these first three, uh the administrative fee, um this is as you

administrative fee, um this is as you may be familiar with the IG that we

may be familiar with the IG that we have, the DDA and the city um provides

have, the DDA and the city um provides administrative support. So, um staff

administrative support. So, um staff time, IT, legal finance. So, we have a

time, IT, legal finance. So, we have a budget in our uh align for that. Um we

budget in our uh align for that. Um we have funds for printing, networking,

have funds for printing, networking, paying the county treasurer. Um and then

paying the county treasurer. Um and then also our parking lot program. Um

also our parking lot program. Um continuing the work that Laura has done

continuing the work that Laura has done and snow removal and maintenance. It's

and snow removal and maintenance. It's been a great asset in our downtown.

been a great asset in our downtown. We've gotten good feedback. So, the DDA

We've gotten good feedback. So, the DDA will be taking that program over

will be taking that program over um for streetscape and professional

um for streetscape and professional services. Um, everyone will be happy

services. Um, everyone will be happy that we're going to continue the

that we're going to continue the downtown holiday lights. Uh, we also

downtown holiday lights. Uh, we also have some funding in here to explore the

have some funding in here to explore the expansion of bike racks. Um, you've

expansion of bike racks. Um, you've probably noticed that there are few bike

probably noticed that there are few bike racks in Oldtown and it's because we

racks in Oldtown and it's because we have narrow sidewalks and there's some

have narrow sidewalks and there's some sight triangle um, constraints that

sight triangle um, constraints that we're working with, but the DDA is

we're working with, but the DDA is interested in piloting potentially

interested in piloting potentially taking a parking spot or maybe even

taking a parking spot or maybe even looking in the Laura parking lots about

looking in the Laura parking lots about converting um, a parking spot to bike

converting um, a parking spot to bike rack. So, we have funding to explore

rack. So, we have funding to explore that initiative. And then for

that initiative. And then for professional services, um we're we'll be

professional services, um we're we'll be looking to release a design RFP next

looking to release a design RFP next year for a new wayfinding program, the

year for a new wayfinding program, the design for that, which will be really

design for that, which will be really exciting because right now we just have

exciting because right now we just have parking lot signs and monument signs,

parking lot signs and monument signs, but we don't have wayfinding for

but we don't have wayfinding for pedestrians or cyclists. So this will be

pedestrians or cyclists. So this will be a great initiative to rethink about how

a great initiative to rethink about how we bring people throughout the district.

we bring people throughout the district. And then we also have some funding

And then we also have some funding related to special district consultants

related to special district consultants and support we might need

and support we might need um for advertising and marketing. and

um for advertising and marketing. and then the cultural arts and community

then the cultural arts and community events. Um Laura has been doing

events. Um Laura has been doing marketing for the past uh four years for

marketing for the past uh four years for Oldtown with our website and social

Oldtown with our website and social media channels. So the DDA will be

media channels. So the DDA will be picking that up and actually looking to

picking that up and actually looking to maybe even hiring a staff or a

maybe even hiring a staff or a contractor to continue that work. And so

contractor to continue that work. And so they laid a really good foundation and

they laid a really good foundation and they're excited to move this into um a a

they're excited to move this into um a a good direction where we engage with

good direction where we engage with businesses more. And then um we'll be

businesses more. And then um we'll be continuing uh the partnership with the

continuing uh the partnership with the farmers market helping pay for their

farmers market helping pay for their traffic control and then launching a new

traffic control and then launching a new creativity and cultural arts microrant

creativity and cultural arts microrant program which will be really exciting to

program which will be really exciting to be able to work with just our great

be able to work with just our great artistic community with murals or

artistic community with murals or festivals or workshops or programming.

festivals or workshops or programming. So that'll be a great way to engage um

So that'll be a great way to engage um with different community groups. And

with different community groups. And then lastly with downtown development uh

then lastly with downtown development uh we're looking to launch a small business

we're looking to launch a small business support grant program. Um, and then also

support grant program. Um, and then also laying the foundation for hopefully

laying the foundation for hopefully establishing a a pathway to ownership

establishing a a pathway to ownership program. So, actually seeing how the DDA

program. So, actually seeing how the DDA can help businesses when they're ready

can help businesses when they're ready to purchase their property. How can we

to purchase their property. How can we help with that? Um, so some really

help with that? Um, so some really exciting initiatives that we're looking

exciting initiatives that we're looking to accomplish. This is just a summary of

to accomplish. This is just a summary of all that um the DDA is excited to do.

all that um the DDA is excited to do. Um, and with that, as a reminder,

Um, and with that, as a reminder, tonight I'm presenting this budget for

tonight I'm presenting this budget for um for you all to consider the

um for you all to consider the resolution for approval and happy to

resolution for approval and happy to answer any questions and I have proposed

answer any questions and I have proposed motion language when when ready.

motion language when when ready. >> Awesome. Well, thank you so much for

>> Awesome. Well, thank you so much for putting that presentation together. Um,

putting that presentation together. Um, let's see if there are questions from

let's see if there are questions from council

council on this topic.

Council today, Council Barnes. >> Thank you, Mayor. I don't have any

>> Thank you, Mayor. I don't have any questions, but I just wanted to say for

questions, but I just wanted to say for council uh might not be uh abundantly

council uh might not be uh abundantly clear, but the the way the DDA is

clear, but the the way the DDA is rolling out, it is poised to align with

rolling out, it is poised to align with a lot of the city's initiatives as well

a lot of the city's initiatives as well and the concerns of um sustainability,

and the concerns of um sustainability, transportation around town, culture. Um,

transportation around town, culture. Um, and I think it's a great outlet for uh

and I think it's a great outlet for uh if we want to see something in action,

if we want to see something in action, the DDA can can act on some of the ideas

the DDA can can act on some of the ideas that council may have moving forward.

that council may have moving forward. And I think it's a very well um laid out

And I think it's a very well um laid out and funded beginning to the next part of

and funded beginning to the next part of what Lafayette's going to be doing. So,

what Lafayette's going to be doing. So, I I I do think it's a really fantastic

I I I do think it's a really fantastic transition into what will help with our

transition into what will help with our business development and economic plan

business development and economic plan for the rest of the city. And it be very

for the rest of the city. And it be very obvious as soon as we get the wayfinding

obvious as soon as we get the wayfinding in. It's going to be great. And uh more

in. It's going to be great. And uh more fabulous branding stuff. I like the

fabulous branding stuff. I like the colors. Great.

colors. Great. >> So, awesome. Thank you. Other questions

>> So, awesome. Thank you. Other questions or comments from council?

>> No. Um Okay. Uh, can we get a motion, please?

Uh, can we get a motion, please? >> I move to approve resolution number

>> I move to approve resolution number 202569, adopting a budget and making

202569, adopting a budget and making appropriations for this fiscal year 2025

appropriations for this fiscal year 2025 and the fiscal year 2026 for the

and the fiscal year 2026 for the Lafayette Downtown Development

Lafayette Downtown Development Authority.

Authority. >> Second

>> Second >> motion and a second. Any further

>> motion and a second. Any further discussion? Okay. All those in favor,

discussion? Okay. All those in favor, please say I. I.

please say I. I. >> Any opposed? None opposed? That passes

>> Any opposed? None opposed? That passes unanimously. Thank you.

Okay. Wow, we are whipping through this. Okay. Item M. This is resolution number

Okay. Item M. This is resolution number 2025-73

2025-73 opting out of enacting graywater

opting out of enacting graywater regulations and prohibiting the use of

regulations and prohibiting the use of gray water and the installation of

gray water and the installation of graywater treatment. We have a public

graywater treatment. We have a public works director here to get us started.

works director here to get us started. Good evening, mayor and members of

Good evening, mayor and members of council. So here tonight to speak to

council. So here tonight to speak to resolution number 2020 2025-73

resolution number 2020 2025-73 regarding to Greywater. I will say up

regarding to Greywater. I will say up front we're not asking council tonight

front we're not asking council tonight to adopt an ordinance or specific

to adopt an ordinance or specific program. So I'm going to give you the

program. So I'm going to give you the short version and happy to answer any

short version and happy to answer any questions, but it's also something that

questions, but it's also something that we could talk about in much greater

we could talk about in much greater detail at a a future meeting based on

detail at a a future meeting based on council's interests. So, I'm going to

council's interests. So, I'm going to start off just giving a a brief overview

start off just giving a a brief overview of what graywater use is. Talk a little

of what graywater use is. Talk a little bit about some of the applicable

bit about some of the applicable federal, state, and local regulations.

federal, state, and local regulations. Um, give you a quick overview of House

Um, give you a quick overview of House Bill 254 13-1362.

Bill 254 13-1362. Um, review the resolution we have and

Um, review the resolution we have and then again answer any questions you

then again answer any questions you have. And we have a proposed motion. So

have. And we have a proposed motion. So just to start things off um our typical

just to start things off um our typical order of events for our utility systems

order of events for our utility systems is that um we are fortunate to be a

is that um we are fortunate to be a headwater state and we divert our source

headwater state and we divert our source water from the Rocky Mountains. So we're

water from the Rocky Mountains. So we're we're getting first dibs on fresh snow.

we're getting first dibs on fresh snow. Um we then treat that water to state and

Um we then treat that water to state and federal standards, deliver it to homes

federal standards, deliver it to homes and business and um conventional

and business and um conventional building plumbing delivers that to

building plumbing delivers that to individual fixtures. Once it's used, it

individual fixtures. Once it's used, it goes down the drain. It goes back to our

goes down the drain. It goes back to our water reclamation facility on County

water reclamation facility on County Line Road. It goes back into Cole Creek,

Line Road. It goes back into Cole Creek, then the South Platin, Mississippi, and

then the South Platin, Mississippi, and um thousands of people reuse that water

um thousands of people reuse that water before it gets to the ocean. Um,

before it gets to the ocean. Um, when you add the element of graywater

when you add the element of graywater reuse, basically what that entails is

reuse, basically what that entails is adding a a small treatment plant inside

adding a a small treatment plant inside the home or business that takes water

the home or business that takes water from certain plumbing fixtures,

from certain plumbing fixtures, generally um things like showers, tubs,

generally um things like showers, tubs, um bathrooms, sinks, washing machines,

um bathrooms, sinks, washing machines, treats that water to um a lesser

treats that water to um a lesser standard than we would do at the

standard than we would do at the treatment plant. And then that can be um

treatment plant. And then that can be um plumbed back to toilets um and for

plumbed back to toilets um and for subsurface irrigation. So basically it

subsurface irrigation. So basically it can go to places where there's you know

can go to places where there's you know minimal risk of human contact.

minimal risk of human contact. Um once it it goes to the toilet, it

Um once it it goes to the toilet, it goes back to um the sewer system, the

goes back to um the sewer system, the water reclamation plant and back to the

water reclamation plant and back to the river like anything else. So it's kind

river like anything else. So it's kind of a

of a small piece of the the water is reused

small piece of the the water is reused an additional time before it's returned

an additional time before it's returned to the river. Um there are a broad

to the river. Um there are a broad variety of regulations that the city has

variety of regulations that the city has to comply with related to how we provide

to comply with related to how we provide water and wastewater services and those

water and wastewater services and those are administered through the the EPA

are administered through the the EPA state health department. Um water rights

state health department. Um water rights are administered by the state engineer

are administered by the state engineer and then the Boulder County Health

and then the Boulder County Health Department has a role in that. Um, in

Department has a role in that. Um, in 2013, uh, the legislature enacted House

2013, uh, the legislature enacted House Bill 131044,

Bill 131044, which basically teed up that local

which basically teed up that local governments

governments could adopt Gaywater regulations. Um,

could adopt Gaywater regulations. Um, the caveat with that being that it

the caveat with that being that it became the responsibility of the local

became the responsibility of the local government to develop local regulations

government to develop local regulations and programs and services to make sure

and programs and services to make sure you still met all of the federal, state,

you still met all of the federal, state, and local regulations.

and local regulations. um in 2024, House Bill 241362

um in 2024, House Bill 241362 um sort of shifted that from an opt in

um sort of shifted that from an opt in to an opt out. So um local governments

to an opt out. So um local governments are required to either allow graywater

are required to either allow graywater or to opt out by the January 1st, 2026

or to opt out by the January 1st, 2026 deadline. um it does not remove the

deadline. um it does not remove the requirement that you would if you're

requirement that you would if you're allowing gray water that you have to

allowing gray water that you have to develop those ordinances and programs

develop those ordinances and programs and services to make sure that you still

and services to make sure that you still comply with all of the state and federal

comply with all of the state and federal regulations.

regulations. So,

So, um the city like many other communities

um the city like many other communities has been closely monitoring developments

has been closely monitoring developments in this um this slide and it's not super

in this um this slide and it's not super legible. I appreciate this scale, but if

legible. I appreciate this scale, but if this is a case study for like Colorado

this is a case study for like Colorado Water Wise, which is a conservation

Water Wise, which is a conservation group, they have a website and you can

group, they have a website and you can get this information in detail, but

get this information in detail, but basically um this looks at

basically um this looks at implementation of graywater programs

implementation of graywater programs around the state. Um there has not been

around the state. Um there has not been a a big uptake in other communities um

a a big uptake in other communities um implementing programs and where they

implementing programs and where they have the number of customers that have

have the number of customers that have actually taken advantage of those is

actually taken advantage of those is pretty small. Um you can see on here um

pretty small. Um you can see on here um city and county of Denver has had uh

city and county of Denver has had uh it's been allowed since 2016 they've had

it's been allowed since 2016 they've had three homes based on this study. Um

three homes based on this study. Um Castle Rock is the biggest with 30 and

Castle Rock is the biggest with 30 and there's a number of communities that

there's a number of communities that have done programs that have zero. So at

have done programs that have zero. So at this point we don't have a great model

this point we don't have a great model of a successful program in which to um

of a successful program in which to um look to replicate in Lafayette.

look to replicate in Lafayette. Conversely, the Colorado Municipal

Conversely, the Colorado Municipal League went as far as doing a model

League went as far as doing a model ordinance for opting out based on broad

ordinance for opting out based on broad community's interest in opting out at

community's interest in opting out at this time. Um, so what we are

this time. Um, so what we are recommending is that we opt out. It

recommending is that we opt out. It doesn't mean we can't relook at this in

doesn't mean we can't relook at this in the future, but but essentially at this

the future, but but essentially at this point um there doesn't seem to be a good

point um there doesn't seem to be a good framework out there to to implement a

framework out there to to implement a successful program um to ahead of that

successful program um to ahead of that deadline.

deadline. So

So basically um

basically um if council

if council um approves this resolution tonight, we

um approves this resolution tonight, we would continue to monitor progress in

would continue to monitor progress in this field. Um, if at some point in the

this field. Um, if at some point in the future there starts to be a framework

future there starts to be a framework for a successful program that we could

for a successful program that we could replicate, we could come back and give

replicate, we could come back and give you analysis of the pros and cons and

you analysis of the pros and cons and cost and consider repealing this

cost and consider repealing this resolution and adopting ordinances and

resolution and adopting ordinances and funding programs and services at that

funding programs and services at that time.

time. Um, so with that, we have a resolution.

Um, so with that, we have a resolution. Again, I'm more than happy to answer any

Again, I'm more than happy to answer any questions or happy to come back at a

questions or happy to come back at a future date and and get into the weeds

future date and and get into the weeds on the the details of some of the pros

on the the details of some of the pros and cons.

and cons. >> All right. Well, thank you so much for

>> All right. Well, thank you so much for that presentation. U questions from

that presentation. U questions from council. Councelor Samson.

council. Councelor Samson. >> It doesn't say in here how long you want

>> It doesn't say in here how long you want this to be an opt out for.

this to be an opt out for. >> So, it would be until such time as we

>> So, it would be until such time as we repeal it.

repeal it. >> So, indefinitely.

>> So, indefinitely. >> Potentially.

>> Potentially. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Um I mean the challenge is is if we

Um I mean the challenge is is if we don't have this then it is allowed and

don't have this then it is allowed and if it is allowed if we don't have the

if it is allowed if we don't have the ordinances and programs we potentially

ordinances and programs we potentially in violation of our CDPHE permits or

in violation of our CDPHE permits or have issues with the state engineer

have issues with the state engineer around water rights. So it really it

around water rights. So it really it would need to stay in place until such

would need to stay in place until such time as we had

time as we had other laws and and programs in place to

other laws and and programs in place to stay compliant.

>> Okay. Uh, councelor Freedom. >> Um, did CML do a model regulation in

>> Um, did CML do a model regulation in terms of

terms of >> they did a model opt out. They didn't

>> they did a model opt out. They didn't >> they did not do a a model

>> they did not do a a model >> model how to comply is my understanding.

>> model how to comply is my understanding. >> Um, can I answer some of this because I

>> Um, can I answer some of this because I sat in those discussions at the CML

sat in those discussions at the CML policy committee. So basically what

policy committee. So basically what happened is CML was one was a big pusher

happened is CML was one was a big pusher of trying to get to the opt- out

of trying to get to the opt- out program. It came from the cities and the

program. It came from the cities and the issue came up and there was a lot of

issue came up and there was a lot of discussion and it was split split enough

discussion and it was split split enough there was enough to say yes let's move

there was enough to say yes let's move this forward through the state and get

this forward through the state and get an opt out program but there were

an opt out program but there were probably 40 45% of the cities in that

probably 40 45% of the cities in that discussion that said oh we're not ready

discussion that said oh we're not ready oh I don't know if we can handle it

oh I don't know if we can handle it we're too small and so what you're

we're too small and so what you're getting from this is CML saying we kind

getting from this is CML saying we kind of need to help all of our communities

of need to help all of our communities So it wasn't something that was

So it wasn't something that was necessarily supportive. What was

necessarily supportive. What was supportive is CML going to the state.

supportive is CML going to the state. >> So if I'm understanding correctly, there

>> So if I'm understanding correctly, there were a number of communities pushing CML

were a number of communities pushing CML to go after this opt- out model with the

to go after this opt- out model with the state bill. And those communities, I'm

state bill. And those communities, I'm assuming, were planning then to develop

assuming, were planning then to develop their own programs.

their own programs. >> Okay. And then for the ones that were

>> Okay. And then for the ones that were hesitant, CML did this opt out to make

hesitant, CML did this opt out to make it easy to opt out.

it easy to opt out. >> Correct.

>> Correct. Got it. I'm curious, did our

Got it. I'm curious, did our sustainability group see this one, have

sustainability group see this one, have a conversation about this one?

a conversation about this one? >> We have talked to them briefly. Yes.

>> We have talked to them briefly. Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Did they have any comments

>> Okay. Okay. Did they have any comments or

or >> um again, at this point, we're not

>> um again, at this point, we're not we're not ruling it out. It's really

we're not ruling it out. It's really more of a conclusion that being having

more of a conclusion that being having something in place by the January 1st

something in place by the January 1st deadline probably not

deadline probably not >> it's probably not realistic um to do it

>> it's probably not realistic um to do it and do it well and have it be a

and do it well and have it be a successful program

successful program >> and keep us in compliance.

>> and keep us in compliance. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you.

>> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> Uh good conversation, Councelor Barnes.

>> Uh good conversation, Councelor Barnes. >> Thank you. I'm I'm curious about the

>> Thank you. I'm I'm curious about the lack of adoption of these systems over

lack of adoption of these systems over time. It's not I don't think it doesn't

time. It's not I don't think it doesn't sound like it's a new concept, but it

sound like it's a new concept, but it just doesn't isn't taken up. Is that

just doesn't isn't taken up. Is that because developers are not interested in

because developers are not interested in having this as a feature or retrofitting

having this as a feature or retrofitting some systems?

some systems? >> A little bit of data and it's it's if

>> A little bit of data and it's it's if you're curious, it's really worth

you're curious, it's really worth checking out their website. Um but so

checking out their website. Um but so for example, their assumptions and

for example, their assumptions and estimates on this was that a system

estimates on this was that a system would cost another $4,500.

would cost another $4,500. Um, they're estimating an average of $36

Um, they're estimating an average of $36 a year in annual maintenance, which I'm

a year in annual maintenance, which I'm not totally sure what that's based on,

not totally sure what that's based on, but that actually seems relatively low

but that actually seems relatively low for having a a wastewater treatment

for having a a wastewater treatment plant in your house. And then estimating

plant in your house. And then estimating an annual savings between $69 and $138

an annual savings between $69 and $138 with a ROI of 33 to 65 years. And that's

with a ROI of 33 to 65 years. And that's based on a single family residential

based on a single family residential with four residents and it looks like

with four residents and it looks like flushing the toilet roughly 24 times a

flushing the toilet roughly 24 times a day. So, you know, even with

day. So, you know, even with relatively generous assumptions, it it

relatively generous assumptions, it it doesn't necessarily look like something

doesn't necessarily look like something that might pencil out well for most

that might pencil out well for most people. And then um as you all know for

people. And then um as you all know for Lafayette a huge amount of our water use

Lafayette a huge amount of our water use is outdoors. We use five times more

is outdoors. We use five times more water in the summer than we do in the

water in the summer than we do in the winter. And in terms of areas where we

winter. And in terms of areas where we could probably move the ball, this might

could probably move the ball, this might not be the the area where we would get

not be the the area where we would get the most bang for our buck. And I would

the most bang for our buck. And I would say that's probably true of many

say that's probably true of many communities across Colorado. So um but

communities across Colorado. So um but again as technology changes as we get

again as technology changes as we get more data and if other places are able

more data and if other places are able to do successful programs um we're open

to do successful programs um we're open to stealing other people's ideas to that

to stealing other people's ideas to that that leads me thank you that leads me to

that leads me thank you that leads me to my next question

my next question when you come out with the technology

when you come out with the technology like I had a conversation with multiple

like I had a conversation with multiple conversations actually with people

conversations actually with people regarding heat pumps and the industry

regarding heat pumps and the industry doesn't seem the One of my one of the

doesn't seem the One of my one of the residents here told me that he really

residents here told me that he really had to educate the providers on what he

had to educate the providers on what he was finding in order to move move the

was finding in order to move move the move the ball, if you will, along the

move the ball, if you will, along the along the lines. And

along the lines. And uh heat pumps are kind of a remarkable

uh heat pumps are kind of a remarkable physics experiment that works.

physics experiment that works. >> Is a gray water treatment plant that

>> Is a gray water treatment plant that complex? I mean, how much more does the

complex? I mean, how much more does the technology have to advance to get

technology have to advance to get >> um

>> um >> water clean enough?

>> water clean enough? >> So, right. So, the the difference is is

>> So, right. So, the the difference is is you're not treating to the same standard

you're not treating to the same standard as

as a regular treatment plant or a water

a regular treatment plant or a water treatment plant, but it's it's in your

treatment plant, but it's it's in your house. So, particularly if you have

house. So, particularly if you have kids, you know that things go down the

kids, you know that things go down the drain that you might never want to see

drain that you might never want to see again or things go in the washing

again or things go in the washing machine that you might not want to see

machine that you might not want to see again. So, you need something that's

again. So, you need something that's gonna remove those things before they

gonna remove those things before they end up in the little teeny hose that

end up in the little teeny hose that feeds your toilet tank. Um, and that's

feeds your toilet tank. Um, and that's presumably going to have some level of

presumably going to have some level of maintenance. Um, it's probably going to

maintenance. Um, it's probably going to involve a pump, so it's going to have an

involve a pump, so it's going to have an energy cost to move things back within

energy cost to move things back within your house. It's going to need

your house. It's going to need protection to make sure you don't

protection to make sure you don't contaminate um the domestic water supply

contaminate um the domestic water supply in your home or elsewhere. And you know,

in your home or elsewhere. And you know, it also may not be for everybody um

it also may not be for everybody um depending on um your your household and

depending on um your your household and your pets and whoever might have contact

your pets and whoever might have contact with the toilet or what's going to be

with the toilet or what's going to be acceptable in terms of having water

acceptable in terms of having water that's been previously used there. Um

that's been previously used there. Um the the you know the technology may

the the you know the technology may evolve. Most

evolve. Most most treatment involves some sort

most treatment involves some sort combination of chemicals and energy.

combination of chemicals and energy. Right.

Right. >> And thank you. And that so this there's

>> And thank you. And that so this there's for the city to take on the production

for the city to take on the production or offer the service of producing gray

or offer the service of producing gray water. That's a whole another discussion

water. That's a whole another discussion I'm guessing.

I'm guessing. >> Well, we we wouldn't be producing it,

>> Well, we we wouldn't be producing it, right? The facility in someone's home

right? The facility in someone's home would be theirs and they would have to

would be theirs and they would have to own and operate and maintain it. So the

own and operate and maintain it. So the city would need to have some enforcement

city would need to have some enforcement mechanism to make sure that that didn't

mechanism to make sure that that didn't contaminate the city water supply,

contaminate the city water supply, didn't create a public health issue in

didn't create a public health issue in the building. So that's probably some

the building. So that's probably some form of inspection and monitoring. So

form of inspection and monitoring. So example like commercial buildings have a

example like commercial buildings have a backflow prevention device that requires

backflow prevention device that requires an annual certification. If people don't

an annual certification. If people don't certify that, we have to turn the water

certify that, we have to turn the water off. Um so it's just adding a a layer of

off. Um so it's just adding a a layer of complexity on a broad scale. Um and I

complexity on a broad scale. Um and I think we've talked about this some we

think we've talked about this some we have um ability to actually do reuse on

have um ability to actually do reuse on a a grand scale. So um we hope subject

a a grand scale. So um we hope subject to being able to get funding in the next

to being able to get funding in the next decade or so to be able to take our

decade or so to be able to take our treated effluent from the water

treated effluent from the water reclamation plant, move it back to Goose

reclamation plant, move it back to Goose Haven and then treat it to a a drinking

Haven and then treat it to a a drinking water standard and and reuse that which

water standard and and reuse that which is again a highly efficient centralized

is again a highly efficient centralized plant um where we can treat it to a

plant um where we can treat it to a standard where we're you know very

standard where we're you know very comfortable with with it being meeting

comfortable with with it being meeting health and safety requirements. Um, but

health and safety requirements. Um, but trying to do that on a individual

trying to do that on a individual homeowner scale just it it has some

homeowner scale just it it has some challenges.

challenges. >> And is that is there a technology for

>> And is that is there a technology for doing that that we that exist or are

doing that that we that exist or are there places where they do that for

there places where they do that for residential areas on a grand scale

residential areas on a grand scale that's efficient or that that technology

that's efficient or that that technology doesn't really exist?

doesn't really exist? >> I mean that I think the technology

>> I mean that I think the technology exists. It's just interesting that in in

exists. It's just interesting that in in Colorado it doesn't appear that it

Colorado it doesn't appear that it exists

exists um in a way that has caused

um in a way that has caused um areas where it's allowed for there to

um areas where it's allowed for there to be a lot of uptake of that. Right. So

be a lot of uptake of that. Right. So like I mean if if city and county of

like I mean if if city and county of Denver was seeing three homes um just

Denver was seeing three homes um just gives me pause that we could spend a lot

gives me pause that we could spend a lot of time and resources on that and if

of time and resources on that and if people don't use it and it takes away

people don't use it and it takes away from our ability to fund other things

from our ability to fund other things where we are seeing the ball move like

where we are seeing the ball move like we've been we've been really focusing on

we've been we've been really focusing on turf turf removal and zeros escaping and

turf turf removal and zeros escaping and I think we've made actually some

I think we've made actually some tangible progress in that area um you

tangible progress in that area um you know And certainly my initial thought is

know And certainly my initial thought is that's probably given our resources

that's probably given our resources that's probably a better place to invest

that's probably a better place to invest until we see

until we see this evolve to a point that either that

this evolve to a point that either that the technology is is better or the

the technology is is better or the acceptability to the customer is is

acceptability to the customer is is better or it it has a a better

better or it it has a a better environmental benefit or return on

environmental benefit or return on investment.

>> I guess one last question. Um, and if we were to repeal that opt out, that's a

were to repeal that opt out, that's a council decision.

council decision. >> Yeah. So, it's we're we just are

>> Yeah. So, it's we're we just are proposing it as a resolution. So, all

proposing it as a resolution. So, all you would need was a resolution to

you would need was a resolution to repeal the resolution. Um, and again, I

repeal the resolution. Um, and again, I would assume it would be packaged as

would assume it would be packaged as part of an item that would include

part of an item that would include ordinances or other resolutions to

ordinances or other resolutions to implement the regulations and programs

implement the regulations and programs and services to to make sure that we

and services to to make sure that we were not running a foul of anything with

were not running a foul of anything with CDPHE or EPA.

CDPHE or EPA. >> Thank you. That's all I have.

>> Thank you. That's all I have. >> All right. Thank you. Um, any other

>> All right. Thank you. Um, any other comments or questions? Councelor Samson,

comments or questions? Councelor Samson, >> I have lots of comments. I bet, you

>> I have lots of comments. I bet, you know, I've been asking for this for four

know, I've been asking for this for four years.

years. So, here's the deal.

So, here's the deal. We talked about sustainability, and yet

We talked about sustainability, and yet we heard last week from somebody from

we heard last week from somebody from our sustainability committee that

our sustainability committee that mountain snowpack is projected to

mountain snowpack is projected to decline 5 to 30% by 2050.

decline 5 to 30% by 2050. Um, that warmer conditions have already

Um, that warmer conditions have already reduced soil moisture and the

reduced soil moisture and the atmosphere's drying power, evaporative

atmosphere's drying power, evaporative demand, has ridden 5% since 1980.

demand, has ridden 5% since 1980. the by 2030, that's 5 years from now,

the by 2030, that's 5 years from now, the amount of drought days and extreme

the amount of drought days and extreme precipitation events will more than

precipitation events will more than double. So, we've got a request from our

double. So, we've got a request from our community and I felt like we couldn't

community and I felt like we couldn't really answer that last week because we

really answer that last week because we don't have a whole lot of money to be

don't have a whole lot of money to be able to put to this. Now, I know you're

able to put to this. Now, I know you're surprised, but I read the regulation

surprised, but I read the regulation from the CDPHE on this. I think it's

from the CDPHE on this. I think it's called 86, regulation 86. And what what

called 86, regulation 86. And what what I got from it is two things. Yes, we

I got from it is two things. Yes, we would have to give some time for staff

would have to give some time for staff to get something together because we'd

to get something together because we'd have to give them at least they have to

have to give them at least they have to um put some information in to CDPHE. You

um put some information in to CDPHE. You know, I feel like I'm leaving you out.

know, I feel like I'm leaving you out. Um 60 days to do something of a plan,

Um 60 days to do something of a plan, right?

right? So, my first issue is in perpetuity.

So, my first issue is in perpetuity. We're not going to do this in

We're not going to do this in perpetuity.

perpetuity. I feel like we have just authorized

I feel like we have just authorized $458,000

$458,000 for water and wastewater comprehensive

for water and wastewater comprehensive plants because and this is from the

plants because and this is from the notes from this is because the demand is

notes from this is because the demand is increasing in our community

increasing in our community exponentially. So we have to spend more

exponentially. So we have to spend more money to do that. We just voted to

money to do that. We just voted to increase water rates for all of our

increase water rates for all of our residents. And yet, by deciding not to

residents. And yet, by deciding not to do this, we are standing in the way of

do this, we are standing in the way of reducing water and making it easier on

reducing water and making it easier on low and moderate income individuals and

low and moderate income individuals and reducing water overall. It's a

reducing water overall. It's a sustainability issue. So, why are we not

sustainability issue. So, why are we not doing something that at least would have

doing something that at least would have the opportunity to help in these

the opportunity to help in these situations? I can't understand the

situations? I can't understand the amount of work that's going to be a

amount of work that's going to be a problem when we're saying that in 10

problem when we're saying that in 10 years Denver has had three people do it.

years Denver has had three people do it. Now, we're going to have more. Why?

Now, we're going to have more. Why? Because we have intelligent, capable

Because we have intelligent, capable population in Lafayette who are very

population in Lafayette who are very wise on sustainability. So, they're

wise on sustainability. So, they're going to do this. $4,500 is no big deal

going to do this. $4,500 is no big deal to me.

to me. I've been here almost 20 years waiting

I've been here almost 20 years waiting for this. waiting.

for this. waiting. I have, you know, I know we have houses

I have, you know, I know we have houses that could do this. I'm not asking for

that could do this. I'm not asking for much. I'm asking for what Golden's

much. I'm asking for what Golden's doing. I would rather have this motion

doing. I would rather have this motion be that we give six months for staff to

be that we give six months for staff to get it together and propose something to

get it together and propose something to the sustainability board that says we

the sustainability board that says we would like to do something that deals

would like to do something that deals with allowing laundry to go out to the

with allowing laundry to go out to the lawn to water our trees. Now, I don't

lawn to water our trees. Now, I don't understand a lot of the costs related to

understand a lot of the costs related to this because we the people and we could

this because we the people and we could do it for single family homes and what

do it for single family homes and what you want to do in a lot of these things

you want to do in a lot of these things is start small and keep building your

is start small and keep building your code, right? That's what you want to do

code, right? That's what you want to do to grow it and find it. And council, we

to grow it and find it. And council, we sat here two years ago and one of our

sat here two years ago and one of our goals was to be bold. We didn't say,

goals was to be bold. We didn't say, "Hey, let's wait for everybody else to

"Hey, let's wait for everybody else to do it and then let's do it." No, we said

do it and then let's do it." No, we said we want to be bold. So, let's do it.

we want to be bold. So, let's do it. Let's run a pilot program. We put this

Let's run a pilot program. We put this out. I don't think there's going to be a

out. I don't think there's going to be a lot immediately, but I think it's going

lot immediately, but I think it's going to increase and people are going to

to increase and people are going to learn in Lafayette. And we are the right

learn in Lafayette. And we are the right community to do it. And we're not asking

community to do it. And we're not asking for a whole lot. Just just start with a

for a whole lot. Just just start with a single family home and then move from

single family home and then move from there. Get your data from us.

there. Get your data from us. >> Thank you. So, Councelor Samson, what

>> Thank you. So, Councelor Samson, what I'm hearing from you is you would like

I'm hearing from you is you would like to postpone the motion for tonight in

to postpone the motion for tonight in House of Staff or Correct me if I'm

House of Staff or Correct me if I'm wrong.

wrong. >> They they could postpone the motion and

>> They they could postpone the motion and rewrite it for 6 months

rewrite it for 6 months to say, "Hey, we're going to postpone

to say, "Hey, we're going to postpone it. We're going to take this back to our

it. We're going to take this back to our sustainability board, present thoughts

sustainability board, present thoughts to them, have them come back to council

to them, have them come back to council and give us input."

and give us input." Um and at that point in six months stat

Um and at that point in six months stat um council could evaluate and decide

um council could evaluate and decide what do you want to do from here. But I

what do you want to do from here. But I think doing this in perpetuity. I mean

think doing this in perpetuity. I mean I've been hearing the same things. We're

I've been hearing the same things. We're going to study the technology every

going to study the technology every year. I keep hearing the same thing. And

year. I keep hearing the same thing. And yet I get promised by staff outside of

yet I get promised by staff outside of this meeting that they're going to come

this meeting that they're going to come back with better information. And I'm

back with better information. And I'm sorry but information from 2022. I keep

sorry but information from 2022. I keep feeling like there needs to be more and

feeling like there needs to be more and I get this. There are so many this

I get this. There are so many this regulation 86 has gone through

regulation 86 has gone through CDPHE. It's gone through a water board.

CDPHE. It's gone through a water board. So, they've made some really um

So, they've made some really um thoughtful decisions on how you would do

thoughtful decisions on how you would do this. Yes, a permit would be required.

this. Yes, a permit would be required. It's part of the regulation.

It's part of the regulation. >> Yes, we could add in an inspection if we

>> Yes, we could add in an inspection if we felt that was necessary.

felt that was necessary. So, there's already in my mind

So, there's already in my mind there are things I'm doing this to my

there are things I'm doing this to my phone because that's what I was reading.

phone because that's what I was reading. Um, there's already information that we

Um, there's already information that we know that health officials have already

know that health officials have already made decisions on in order to guide us

made decisions on in order to guide us through this.

through this. >> Okay. Thank you, Councelor Samson. So,

>> Okay. Thank you, Councelor Samson. So, um I'm hearing from councelor Samson to

um I'm hearing from councelor Samson to uh we could postpone or table or

uh we could postpone or table or whatever the right verbage is uh this

whatever the right verbage is uh this item have staff look at it for you know

item have staff look at it for you know does you mentioned 6 months but I think

does you mentioned 6 months but I think you know that can be flexible right um

you know that can be flexible right um to go back to our our local board

to go back to our our local board sustainability advisory committee and

sustainability advisory committee and other boards um as well as do some

other boards um as well as do some deeper dive into figuring out how to

deeper dive into figuring out how to kind of refine the program um and then

kind of refine the program um and then bring it back to council um at a later

bring it back to council um at a later date Um and um and so I just wanted to

date Um and um and so I just wanted to see if folks on council wanted to

see if folks on council wanted to respond to that um agreed, disagreed, um

respond to that um agreed, disagreed, um wanted to build on the conversation or

wanted to build on the conversation or add more to the discussion

add more to the discussion um that's been t that's being taking

um that's been t that's being taking place right now. How do we feel? What

place right now. How do we feel? What are our thoughts?

are our thoughts? >> I'm highly supportive of that. I I was

>> I'm highly supportive of that. I I was going to I was going to vote no today on

going to I was going to vote no today on this um if as it's currently designed.

this um if as it's currently designed. So, I appreciate a compromise, a plan,

So, I appreciate a compromise, a plan, an idea, leaning on our boards that are

an idea, leaning on our boards that are eager eager to do stuff like this for

eager eager to do stuff like this for us. Um, and you know, I I forget exactly

us. Um, and you know, I I forget exactly what I said in the climate action plan

what I said in the climate action plan video that we did recently, but it was

video that we did recently, but it was things like that. Be bold, vision,

things like that. Be bold, vision, drive, you know, and this is a great

drive, you know, and this is a great example of a way that we're going to

example of a way that we're going to have to figure it out, but I think we're

have to figure it out, but I think we're good at that. So, I'm very supportive of

good at that. So, I'm very supportive of the plan. I think it's a great plan.

the plan. I think it's a great plan. Thank you for proposing it.

Thank you for proposing it. >> Can I ask a clarifying question? I I

>> Can I ask a clarifying question? I I think our options and I could be

think our options and I could be mistaken would be that if we choose not

mistaken would be that if we choose not to do the opt out for some period, we

to do the opt out for some period, we would need to have the ordinances and

would need to have the ordinances and plans and programs and services in place

plans and programs and services in place by January 1st. So I think our options

by January 1st. So I think our options would be I think you could amend this to

would be I think you could amend this to have it sunset or staff could agree to

have it sunset or staff could agree to come back within x number of months with

come back within x number of months with options

options or the direction I think would need to

or the direction I think would need to be to come back by the end of the year

be to come back by the end of the year with the ordinances and services and

with the ordinances and services and programs for adoption so that we're okay

programs for adoption so that we're okay >> on January 1st. I don't could you do it

>> on January 1st. I don't could you do it by the end of the year?

by the end of the year? >> I I mean I'll jump in. So I think that

>> I I mean I'll jump in. So I think that there's a reason why Aurora, Longmont,

there's a reason why Aurora, Longmont, Westminster, Avada, Boulder, Jefferson

Westminster, Avada, Boulder, Jefferson County have all gone this route to give

County have all gone this route to give them time and this is why we have waited

them time and this is why we have waited to try to see if they've come up with a

to try to see if they've come up with a model structure that we could not

model structure that we could not reinvent the wheel. So I would prefer

reinvent the wheel. So I would prefer that if we got some time and maybe

that if we got some time and maybe sunseted or whatever the legal term is.

sunseted or whatever the legal term is. You know, we're getting through the end

You know, we're getting through the end of the year. We're going to be

of the year. We're going to be onboarding new SRAB members come

onboarding new SRAB members come January. So if we're looking at like six

January. So if we're looking at like six months really maybe like a eightmon or a

months really maybe like a eightmon or a nine month so we can get new members on

nine month so we can get new members on board, new council members on board so

board, new council members on board so that you know this time in June we could

that you know this time in June we could come back and have a further

come back and have a further conversation about what some of our

conversation about what some of our options are. That would be again my

options are. That would be again my preference just knowing that piece of it

preference just knowing that piece of it just given the workload and the new

just given the workload and the new council change. We have basically

council change. We have basically two more meetings before a new council

two more meetings before a new council is on board basically to get that in

is on board basically to get that in place and even then it's three total

place and even then it's three total meetings unless you want to do kind of a

meetings unless you want to do kind of a fourth one

fourth one >> in December.

>> in December. >> And so could we

>> And so could we >> just throwing out options to complement?

>> just throwing out options to complement? >> Sure. Could we do like a combination of

>> Sure. Could we do like a combination of both? Right. Could we pass tonight with

both? Right. Could we pass tonight with an amendment or with the expectation

an amendment or with the expectation that it would come back to us that we

that it would come back to us that we could um at a later date whether that's

could um at a later date whether that's 6 months, 8 12 months, whenever. Um but

6 months, 8 12 months, whenever. Um but that we could uh refine it, make those

that we could uh refine it, make those edits after consulting with our boards

edits after consulting with our boards after seeing what other cities do. Um

after seeing what other cities do. Um and then make those amendments later on

and then make those amendments later on like is is that what sort of

like is is that what sort of would that be like I'm just find trying

would that be like I'm just find trying to find a compromise?

to find a compromise? >> So what they're what we have what

>> So what they're what we have what they're saying is that we have to opt

they're saying is that we have to opt out as of January 1st and then give

out as of January 1st and then give staff enough time. So what we want to do

staff enough time. So what we want to do is I can amend this right now and read

is I can amend this right now and read it. You know me, I can think on the

it. You know me, I can think on the spot. So I could read this with an

spot. So I could read this with an amendment that at the end of that

amendment that at the end of that instead of the period it would say for 9

instead of the period it would say for 9 months

months and so all we would be doing is opting

and so all we would be doing is opting out for 9 months and staff have would

out for 9 months and staff have would have the direction

have the direction just as we were saying come back with

just as we were saying come back with some options

some options with to the sustainability board and

with to the sustainability board and then they can come back with staff to

then they can come back with staff to council.

council. >> Okay. Nine months would be what? June or

>> Okay. Nine months would be what? June or July.

July. >> That's what I heard.

>> That's what I heard. >> I'm just thinking with getting everyone

>> I'm just thinking with getting everyone new on boarded and yeah, getting to the

new on boarded and yeah, getting to the new members. So I would I would

new members. So I would I would appreciate that time.

appreciate that time. >> Does that seem like enough time?

>> Does that seem like enough time? >> I mean,

>> I mean, >> more would be better.

>> more would be better. >> Um well, so we don't actually have a

>> Um well, so we don't actually have a dedicated water conservation position

dedicated water conservation position even. So this I think the trade-off is

even. So this I think the trade-off is this will be diverting resources away

this will be diverting resources away from other things and if that's the

from other things and if that's the priority, we can certainly do that. But

priority, we can certainly do that. But it um you know it does mean that other

it um you know it does mean that other other things we do in the the water

other things we do in the the water efficiency space will be deferred. So

efficiency space will be deferred. So >> but I think that's again for the new

>> but I think that's again for the new council on the um retreat. We cannot

council on the um retreat. We cannot talk about what that means kind of

talk about what that means kind of >> yeah because at the end of the nine

>> yeah because at the end of the nine months as well right we could extend it

months as well right we could extend it for another six months if we need to.

for another six months if we need to. Yeah,

Yeah, >> right. We're not saying

>> right. We're not saying >> it has to be done. If we run into the

>> it has to be done. If we run into the issues then we run into the issue. Why

issues then we run into the issue. Why why wouldn't we keep the resolution as

why wouldn't we keep the resolution as it is? I mean, the resolution is going

it is? I mean, the resolution is going to the state. So, all we're doing is

to the state. So, all we're doing is complying with the state. If we want to

complying with the state. If we want to come back and actually have something in

come back and actually have something in six months, nine months, we can just

six months, nine months, we can just then switch back. Not then.

then switch back. Not then. >> For years, I've been asking for it. I've

>> For years, I've been asking for it. I've got nothing from staff.

got nothing from staff. >> I hear you. But I'm hearing from staff

>> I hear you. But I'm hearing from staff that we don't have dedicated funds. We

that we don't have dedicated funds. We don't have the resources to do this. I

don't have the resources to do this. I don't want them put a clock on them on

don't want them put a clock on them on the resolution that we sent to the

the resolution that we sent to the state. I would rather keep the

state. I would rather keep the resolution as is and then uh instruct TF

resolution as is and then uh instruct TF to maybe bring something forward at a

to maybe bring something forward at a later date

later date >> because if it is asis, I'm also voting

>> because if it is asis, I'm also voting no. It it's totally a fair point. I I I

no. It it's totally a fair point. I I I think it's just that it gives us that

think it's just that it gives us that feedback mechanism, that time to say in

feedback mechanism, that time to say in nine months we have to come back, have

nine months we have to come back, have another conversation, even if that

another conversation, even if that conversation is we got too many

conversation is we got too many priorities, you know, we need to we need

priorities, you know, we need to we need to extend this for another year.

to extend this for another year. >> Uh city attorney.

>> Uh city attorney. >> Thank you, mayor. I have a suggestion

>> Thank you, mayor. I have a suggestion for council. Um before I make that

for council. Um before I make that suggestion, I just wanted to point out

suggestion, I just wanted to point out that nothing in this resolution or the

that nothing in this resolution or the state law that we are um attempting to

state law that we are um attempting to comply with by opting out prohibits the

comply with by opting out prohibits the city from continuing to explore this or

city from continuing to explore this or adopt regulations in the future. So I

adopt regulations in the future. So I just want to state that first. There's

just want to state that first. There's nothing that this does not stop us from

nothing that this does not stop us from in the future adopting graywater

in the future adopting graywater treatment works regulations. Um, my

treatment works regulations. Um, my suggestion for council to consider is uh

suggestion for council to consider is uh amending if this is the route you want

amending if this is the route you want to go, you could amend the resolution,

to go, you could amend the resolution, not to provide a sunset date on the

not to provide a sunset date on the resolution because I'm not really sure

resolution because I'm not really sure how that would work once we send it to

how that would work once we send it to the state. I don't know that that would

the state. I don't know that that would mean anything or do anything for

mean anything or do anything for purposes of compliance or or for the

purposes of compliance or or for the state's purposes. Um, however,

state's purposes. Um, however, you could either, as uh, councelor Topia

you could either, as uh, councelor Topia Vega suggested, direct staff to come

Vega suggested, direct staff to come back or you could add a add a provision

back or you could add a add a provision to the resolution directing staff to

to the resolution directing staff to continue to explore this and come back

continue to explore this and come back with recommendations and um, options

with recommendations and um, options within 9 months of the date that you

within 9 months of the date that you pass this resolution. So, that would at

pass this resolution. So, that would at least put it in the resolution. it it

least put it in the resolution. it it memorializes the direction as opposed to

memorializes the direction as opposed to only being memorialized in the minutes,

only being memorialized in the minutes, for example.

for example. >> So, I I would if you want something in

>> So, I I would if you want something in the resolution, I would recommend going

the resolution, I would recommend going that route of adding a fourth section at

that route of adding a fourth section at the bottom of page one. Um I I have some

the bottom of page one. Um I I have some proposed language if you're interested

proposed language if you're interested in that option. Um but I wanted to put

in that option. Um but I wanted to put that on the table for you to discuss.

that on the table for you to discuss. >> Okay. So we we could potentially put

>> Okay. So we we could potentially put that put a date or a certain time frame

that put a date or a certain time frame or we could keep it vague as well and

or we could keep it vague as well and say with the intention to uh you know

say with the intention to uh you know direct staff to come back at a later

direct staff to come back at a later date you know keep it open-ended.

date you know keep it open-ended. >> Would you like to hear the language I

>> Would you like to hear the language I sure came up with? We'll see if this

sure came up with? We'll see if this works and we can change this if council

works and we can change this if council wants. So it would be a new section 4

wants. So it would be a new section 4 and it would say the city council

and it would say the city council further directs staff to explore

further directs staff to explore graywater treatment works regulations if

graywater treatment works regulations if I'm using the right terminology.

I'm using the right terminology. Director Arthur and to report back to

Director Arthur and to report back to city council with options and

city council with options and recommendations within nine months of

recommendations within nine months of the date of this resolution.

the date of this resolution. Something along those lines.

Something along those lines. >> You have but you have in there 9 months.

>> You have but you have in there 9 months. Okay.

Okay. >> All right. Thank you. Um I'd like to

>> All right. Thank you. Um I'd like to hear from others. Um and and you know

hear from others. Um and and you know remember the goal of the conversation we

remember the goal of the conversation we want to get to a consensus here. So um

want to get to a consensus here. So um how do others feel about what's been

how do others feel about what's been discussed so far?

discussed so far? Council Tac,

Council Tac, >> could I jump in? Sorry. So, fully in

>> could I jump in? Sorry. So, fully in agreement. I love that. To our city

agreement. I love that. To our city attorney. Great job. I have a question

attorney. Great job. I have a question that is completely unrelated. Sorry to

that is completely unrelated. Sorry to bring it back to the actual

bring it back to the actual presentation. Could you go back to the

presentation. Could you go back to the slide where you have uh the savings over

slide where you have uh the savings over and then the return on investment? So, I

and then the return on investment? So, I I see the top and and I see that what

I see the top and and I see that what I'm really interested in is the bottom.

I'm really interested in is the bottom. So, that bottom section uh the actual

So, that bottom section uh the actual gallons that are being saved for for a

gallons that are being saved for for a household is actually pretty

household is actually pretty substantial, but then I see the cost

substantial, but then I see the cost benefit in terms of dollar figures. So,

benefit in terms of dollar figures. So, that is not huge. the 33 to 65 year

that is not huge. the 33 to 65 year return on investment. Is that do you

return on investment. Is that do you think the primary force for people not

think the primary force for people not actually opting into this process? And

actually opting into this process? And then secondly, uh second part of the

then secondly, uh second part of the question, have you seen from all the the

question, have you seen from all the the programs that do exist, is there any

programs that do exist, is there any city that's or any municipality that's

city that's or any municipality that's subsidizing that upfront cost for

subsidizing that upfront cost for customers?

customers? >> Um I am not aware of those details.

>> Um I am not aware of those details. Again, this is third party independent

Again, this is third party independent water efficiency nonprofit.

water efficiency nonprofit. Um

Um so I I do not know if any of these other

so I I do not know if any of these other communities have have done upfront

communities have have done upfront subsidies. Um you know I think that the

subsidies. Um you know I think that the challenge with the the savings is

challenge with the the savings is um it's even in in this scenario it's

um it's even in in this scenario it's you this is a a decent amount of use.

you this is a a decent amount of use. This is a single family with with four

This is a single family with with four users that are

users that are doing a decent number of flushes and the

doing a decent number of flushes and the actual cost per gallon and the gallon

actual cost per gallon and the gallon saved. Um it it is modest and it is a

saved. Um it it is modest and it is a long ROI. So I don't know if it's that

long ROI. So I don't know if it's that the ROI doesn't pencil because frankly

the ROI doesn't pencil because frankly water is still pretty cheap on a per

water is still pretty cheap on a per gallon basis or if it's people

gallon basis or if it's people have different opinions about whether

have different opinions about whether it's something they want to to manage in

it's something they want to to manage in their home

their home >> and councelor Topga this would be

>> and councelor Topga this would be something I would imagine we would bring

something I would imagine we would bring back with that you know staff analysis

back with that you know staff analysis once we were doing that in whatever time

once we were doing that in whatever time frame you guys direct staff to bring it

frame you guys direct staff to bring it back is

back is >> yeah absolutely we would we would do

>> yeah absolutely we would we would do more detailed analysis of of other

more detailed analysis of of other programs and and frankly if if other

programs and and frankly if if other communities do adopt programs ahead of

communities do adopt programs ahead of the deadline that'll be a another thing

the deadline that'll be a another thing we can look at. But as as uh city

we can look at. But as as uh city manager Doling mentioned, we haven't

manager Doling mentioned, we haven't seen a lot of the neighbors move forward

seen a lot of the neighbors move forward with that. So we would we'd have to look

with that. So we would we'd have to look at what's out there in terms of people

at what's out there in terms of people that either had previous programs or

that either had previous programs or adopted them ahead of the deadline.

adopted them ahead of the deadline. >> I appreciate I had that question before

>> I appreciate I had that question before the other discussion came up. I just

the other discussion came up. I just wanted to get it out. Back to you, man.

wanted to get it out. Back to you, man. Thank you.

Thank you. >> Yeah, no worries. Back to you.

>> Yeah, no worries. Back to you. >> Okay. Um any I just want to make sure I

>> Okay. Um any I just want to make sure I give everyone an opportunity to speak if

give everyone an opportunity to speak if they'd like to. Um are there any

they'd like to. Um are there any thoughts from other counselors on what's

thoughts from other counselors on what's been discussed so far

been discussed so far or or I'm happy to to take entertain a

or or I'm happy to to take entertain a motion as well, but I want to give folks

motion as well, but I want to give folks an opportunity to speak if they'd like.

an opportunity to speak if they'd like. Councelor Barnes.

Councelor Barnes. >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh I I can confirm

>> Thank you, Mayor. Uh I I can confirm that councelor Samson has been asking

that councelor Samson has been asking for this for four years. Um, I was there

for this for four years. Um, I was there and I heard you and uh just wanted to

and I heard you and uh just wanted to say yes. Um, and I appreciate all the

say yes. Um, and I appreciate all the background on this and I I do feel like

background on this and I I do feel like we we don't have enough

we we don't have enough um reason

um reason I don't have enough reason to accept the

I don't have enough reason to accept the resolution as it is. I would like to see

resolution as it is. I would like to see it amended and I would like to engage

it amended and I would like to engage the experts that we have in our

the experts that we have in our community SSRB and any other groups um

community SSRB and any other groups um because there are a lot of questions

because there are a lot of questions this that bottom section is kind of

this that bottom section is kind of mysterious to me of that that data.

mysterious to me of that that data. Yeah, there's those those are data but I

Yeah, there's those those are data but I don't I don't know that that's that's

don't I don't know that that's that's not convincing enough to me that we

not convincing enough to me that we shouldn't do it especially in the light

shouldn't do it especially in the light of water resource use. And it it also

of water resource use. And it it also gets um an education to people to think

gets um an education to people to think about not flushing the toilet so many

about not flushing the toilet so many times maybe. Um so I would like to see I

times maybe. Um so I would like to see I would like to see the something amended

would like to see the something amended and that we come back definitely revisit

and that we come back definitely revisit this in 9 months and um I appreciate all

this in 9 months and um I appreciate all my counselors

my counselors bringing all that forward to help me

bringing all that forward to help me understand as well. And when you say

understand as well. And when you say amend it, um, are you in favor of what

amend it, um, are you in favor of what councelor Samson brought up and putting

councelor Samson brought up and putting or what the city attorney may have

or what the city attorney may have brought up by putting a specific

brought up by putting a specific timeline, 9 months, 10 months, 6 months?

timeline, 9 months, 10 months, 6 months? >> I I like what the city attorney the that

>> I I like what the city attorney the that language

language >> the proposed language from the city

>> the proposed language from the city attorney.

attorney. >> Okay. C can we can we use that as kind

>> Okay. C can we can we use that as kind of the baseline right now? Sure.

of the baseline right now? Sure. >> Is everybody comfortable using what city

>> Is everybody comfortable using what city attorney brought forward? Because if

attorney brought forward? Because if that's fine, um I think that's fine. I

that's fine, um I think that's fine. I think it gives um the next council the

think it gives um the next council the opportunity to make determinations going

opportunity to make determinations going forward. So, I'm perfectly fine with

forward. So, I'm perfectly fine with that.

that. >> Okay. All right. Um any other questions,

>> Okay. All right. Um any other questions, comments, stuff you'd like to bring up?

comments, stuff you'd like to bring up? >> Okay. Well, I'm hearing from a consensus

>> Okay. Well, I'm hearing from a consensus of amending the motion. It looks like

of amending the motion. It looks like based off of that uh proposed question

based off of that uh proposed question that looks like folks are supportive of

that looks like folks are supportive of our city attorney suggestion. However,

our city attorney suggestion. However, we still need to make a vote. So

we still need to make a vote. So >> um we need a motion.

>> um we need a motion. >> We need to make a motion and then do a

>> We need to make a motion and then do a vote on that. And so does someone feel

vote on that. And so does someone feel prepared to do that like holist?

prepared to do that like holist? >> I'm I'm sort of okay. I'm not sure I'm

>> I'm I'm sort of okay. I'm not sure I'm going to do all of your words exact. I'm

going to do all of your words exact. I'm happy to do it. I just don't have it.

happy to do it. I just don't have it. >> Do you mind rereading that?

>> Do you mind rereading that? >> You can look to me to to state it after

>> You can look to me to to state it after your motion and and I but I have it all

your motion and and I but I have it all typed out now.

typed out now. >> Okay. So what you're saying is I can

>> Okay. So what you're saying is I can make the first part of the motion and

make the first part of the motion and then say with staff

then say with staff >> u you could say so make the motion and

>> u you could say so make the motion and then say with an amendment to add a new

then say with an amendment to add a new section 4 to read as follows

section 4 to read as follows >> per the city attorney and then I'll read

>> per the city attorney and then I'll read it. Would that work?

it. Would that work? >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> Okay.

>> For Okay, I'm going to try to do that. I move to approve resolution number

move to approve resolution number 2025-73

2025-73 opting out of enacting graywater

opting out of enacting graywater regulations and prohibiting the use of

regulations and prohibiting the use of graywater and the installation of

graywater and the installation of graywater treatment works with

graywater treatment works with with the amendment with a new section 4

with the amendment with a new section 4 that states

that states that will state as follows. So this it

that will state as follows. So this it will say the city council further

will say the city council further directs city staff to explore local

directs city staff to explore local graywater treatment works regulations

graywater treatment works regulations and to report back to city council with

and to report back to city council with options and recommendations within 9

options and recommendations within 9 months of the date of passage of this

months of the date of passage of this resolution

>> as stated by our city attorney. Correct.

stated by our city attorney. Correct. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> I don't second.

>> I don't second. >> All right. All right. So, that motion

>> All right. All right. So, that motion has been placed and has been seconded.

has been placed and has been seconded. >> Um, any further comments or discussion?

>> Um, any further comments or discussion? Okay. All those in favor, please say I.

Okay. All those in favor, please say I. >> I. Any oppose say no.

>> I. Any oppose say no. >> Okay. None opposed. That does pass

>> Okay. None opposed. That does pass unanimous unanimously.

unanimous unanimously. >> Thank you for that uh discussion and for

>> Thank you for that uh discussion and for that compromise.

that compromise. Appreciate that from from both council

Appreciate that from from both council and staff.

All right. Um, last item under regul Oh wait. Uh yes, on regular business is uh

wait. Uh yes, on regular business is uh item N resolution 2025-61 supporting the

item N resolution 2025-61 supporting the city of Lafayette ballot issue 2C

city of Lafayette ballot issue 2C funding recreation center improvements

funding recreation center improvements and new civic center and service center

and new civic center and service center improvements. We have the assistant door

improvements. We have the assistant door city manager Alex Nelson here. Yes. Good

city manager Alex Nelson here. Yes. Good evening mayor and council. I have a very

evening mayor and council. I have a very brief presentation for you tonight

brief presentation for you tonight regarding resolution number 202561

regarding resolution number 202561 considering a resolution of support for

considering a resolution of support for Lafia ballot issue 2C. So, as mentioned,

Lafia ballot issue 2C. So, as mentioned, a brief presentation. I'll talk through

a brief presentation. I'll talk through the background of the capital bond

the background of the capital bond initiative as well as the campaign fair

initiative as well as the campaign fair campaign practices act and then turn it

campaign practices act and then turn it over for questions and proposed motion

over for questions and proposed motion language. So, as you'll recall,

language. So, as you'll recall, throughout the year, staff and council

throughout the year, staff and council have enga been engaging in discussions

have enga been engaging in discussions regarding a capital bond uh initiative

regarding a capital bond uh initiative and that began in January at your

and that began in January at your workshop with initial discussions of

workshop with initial discussions of this proposal and some projects that

this proposal and some projects that were being considered. Staff returned at

were being considered. Staff returned at your February workshop to prioritize

your February workshop to prioritize those projects with council, discuss

those projects with council, discuss financial analysis, and then scope

financial analysis, and then scope polling and community engagement

polling and community engagement activities. Staff and consultant team

activities. Staff and consultant team then conducted the engagement and

then conducted the engagement and polling and then reported findings to

polling and then reported findings to you at your May workshop. And then over

you at your May workshop. And then over the summer, we came for a series of

the summer, we came for a series of meetings to receive direction from

meetings to receive direction from council, report out and and continue

council, report out and and continue work on the community outreach and

work on the community outreach and education. um ultimately culminating in

education. um ultimately culminating in a year meeting on August 19th where

a year meeting on August 19th where council certified ballot language in

council certified ballot language in anticipation of the election next week.

anticipation of the election next week. So as a reminder the direction from

So as a reminder the direction from council at that meeting was to move

council at that meeting was to move forward with three projects for this

forward with three projects for this capital bond issue which were the um

capital bond issue which were the um construction of a new civic center,

construction of a new civic center, renovation of the portion of the Bob

renovation of the portion of the Bob Burgerer recreation center and then

Burgerer recreation center and then expansion and renovation of this parks

expansion and renovation of this parks and public works service center. Um that

and public works service center. Um that would all be done in one question

would all be done in one question supported by general obligation bond

supported by general obligation bond funded by temporary property tax

funded by temporary property tax increase over 20 years.

increase over 20 years. As you know once that language was

As you know once that language was certified the city is beholden to the

certified the city is beholden to the fair campaign practices act which does

fair campaign practices act which does place restrictions on the use of public

place restrictions on the use of public funds and city resources to engage in

funds and city resources to engage in campaigning for or against a ballot

campaigning for or against a ballot issue and dispensing information in

issue and dispensing information in connection with local or statewide

connection with local or statewide ballot issues. However, as the governing

ballot issues. However, as the governing body, it does allow the city council to

body, it does allow the city council to take a position on ballot issues through

take a position on ballot issues through the passage of a resolution that would

the passage of a resolution that would urge electors to vote for or against an

urge electors to vote for or against an issue. So, the resolution uh was

issue. So, the resolution uh was included in your packet this evening um

included in your packet this evening um supporting this ballot issue and I'll

supporting this ballot issue and I'll turn over for any questions. Otherwise,

turn over for any questions. Otherwise, there's motion language on the screen.

there's motion language on the screen. >> Awesome. Thank you so much. Yeah, as as

>> Awesome. Thank you so much. Yeah, as as mentioned, this is a topic that we have

mentioned, this is a topic that we have been discussing for quite some time now

been discussing for quite some time now and now it's on the ballots um and which

and now it's on the ballots um and which has already been issued. So, some folks

has already been issued. So, some folks have already voted, some have not. Um

have already voted, some have not. Um and so are there any comments, questions

and so are there any comments, questions on this item?

Yes. Yes. >> I'm struggling with this one because I

>> I'm struggling with this one because I feel like what we did was we put this

feel like what we did was we put this out on the ballot and I very much value

out on the ballot and I very much value the right of voters to make their

the right of voters to make their decision on this without any undue

decision on this without any undue influence at all. So, I'm I'm hesitant

influence at all. So, I'm I'm hesitant to try to

to try to vote to sway for any reason, you know,

vote to sway for any reason, you know, because we support and I do know that

because we support and I do know that council is not unanimous

council is not unanimous in whether or not these all three should

in whether or not these all three should be funded.

be funded. >> So,

>> So, >> sure.

>> sure. >> Um I don't know. Well, I I mean, we have

>> Um I don't know. Well, I I mean, we have to do what we have to do, but I just

to do what we have to do, but I just thought I'd say

thought I'd say I'm a little uncomfortable with us as a

I'm a little uncomfortable with us as a council supporting doing a motion to

council supporting doing a motion to support when really what I think we want

support when really what I think we want is the public to decide on their own

is the public to decide on their own what works for them.

what works for them. >> Sure. Of course, that's fair and

>> Sure. Of course, that's fair and understandable.

understandable. Um, I'll just quickly say, you know,

Um, I'll just quickly say, you know, it's important to be educated and

it's important to be educated and informed, uh, whether you are in support

informed, uh, whether you are in support or against, um, this resolution or

or against, um, this resolution or sorry, this ballot initiative. Um, you

sorry, this ballot initiative. Um, you know, take please take the opportunity

know, take please take the opportunity to reach out to folks um that that uh

to reach out to folks um that that uh are directly impacted by these, and I

are directly impacted by these, and I would say all of Lafayette residents

would say all of Lafayette residents are. uh when you if you you may not

are. uh when you if you you may not visit the service center every day or

visit the service center every day or the city hall every day or the rec

the city hall every day or the rec center every day uh but you do um

center every day uh but you do um receive tremendous amount of benefits

receive tremendous amount of benefits from those um um th those facilities.

from those um um th those facilities. Um, you know, as as we mentioned, our

Um, you know, as as we mentioned, our service center, that's where we have,

service center, that's where we have, you know, if you ever need uh help from

you know, if you ever need uh help from the fire department or an ambulance or

the fire department or an ambulance or our snow plows uh during the winter

our snow plows uh during the winter time, um that's where those those

time, um that's where those those vehicles uh our public works vehicles,

vehicles uh our public works vehicles, our our parks and wreck vehicles are um

our our parks and wreck vehicles are um all all those all those all those uh

all all those all those all those uh city fleets, city vehicles are ma

city fleets, city vehicles are ma maintained. um if you um you know need

maintained. um if you um you know need help from city staff that work here in

help from city staff that work here in this building. Um some folks haven't

this building. Um some folks haven't been past the main entry door and so you

been past the main entry door and so you haven't seen the whole thing. Um but it

haven't seen the whole thing. Um but it has um you know you know there's a lot

has um you know you know there's a lot to this building. Um and there could be

to this building. Um and there could be opportunity for more. Um there's also

opportunity for more. Um there's also you know our rec center, our beloved rec

you know our rec center, our beloved rec center, Bob El Ber. Shout out to the

center, Bob El Ber. Shout out to the former mayor. Um Bob El Berger rec

former mayor. Um Bob El Berger rec center. Um we, you know, folks have

center. Um we, you know, folks have spent time there, have noticed the pole

spent time there, have noticed the pole closure on several occasions, um have

closure on several occasions, um have noticed, you know, things going on. But

noticed, you know, things going on. But at the same time, as you know, I just

at the same time, as you know, I just wanted to, you know, bring these these

wanted to, you know, bring these these items up because I want to make sure

items up because I want to make sure people are educated and informed on why

people are educated and informed on why um the city feels the need to make these

um the city feels the need to make these improvements. It's also important, as

improvements. It's also important, as mentioned in several meetings, that

mentioned in several meetings, that these are large capital projects that

these are large capital projects that have not had any updates or significant

have not had any updates or significant updates um in over 30 years. And in

updates um in over 30 years. And in reality, projects like to this scale

reality, projects like to this scale should be updated, you know, every 10 or

should be updated, you know, every 10 or so years. So, this council is just doing

so years. So, this council is just doing its best to um provide that opportunity

its best to um provide that opportunity for the residents to to make those

for the residents to to make those necessarily update necessary updates. Um

necessarily update necessary updates. Um and at the end of the day, as Miss

and at the end of the day, as Miss Councelor Samson mentioned, if you feel

Councelor Samson mentioned, if you feel like you've looked into this and you

like you've looked into this and you disagree, that is totally okay. And like

disagree, that is totally okay. And like as she also mentioned, this council is

as she also mentioned, this council is is not unanimous on this either. And so

is not unanimous on this either. And so that's totally fair. You know, the goal

that's totally fair. You know, the goal is just to make sure you are educated,

is just to make sure you are educated, informed before you make your vote. Um,

informed before you make your vote. Um, and and I know there's folks advocating

and and I know there's folks advocating against this, which is fair as well.

against this, which is fair as well. Make sure you reach out to them and hear

Make sure you reach out to them and hear their side as well. Um, hear all

their side as well. Um, hear all perspectives before you make your vote

perspectives before you make your vote on on on any item. Um, and so that being

on on on any item. Um, and so that being said, uh, does anyone feel comfortable

said, uh, does anyone feel comfortable making a motion on this?

Council Barns, >> I move to approve resolution number

>> I move to approve resolution number 202561 supporting city of Lafayette

202561 supporting city of Lafayette ballot issue 2C, funding rec center

ballot issue 2C, funding rec center improvements and sorry, rec center

improvements and sorry, rec center improvements, a new civic center and

improvements, a new civic center and service center improvements.

service center improvements. >> Do we have a second?

>> Do we have a second? >> Second.

>> Second. >> Okay, motion and a second. All those in

>> Okay, motion and a second. All those in favor say I.

favor say I. >> I.

>> I. >> Any oppose say no.

>> Any oppose say no. >> No.

>> No. Just want to make sure clerk Beck you

Just want to make sure clerk Beck you got that.

got that. >> Okay. So that motion passes 5 to two.

>> Okay. So that motion passes 5 to two. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> All right. Um

>> All right. Um >> All right. We have to switch hats now

>> All right. We have to switch hats now and move towards uh in recess uh to the

and move towards uh in recess uh to the board of directors for Lafayette City

board of directors for Lafayette City Center, the Lafayette Tech Center,

Center, the Lafayette Tech Center, Exempla and Lafayette corporate campus

Exempla and Lafayette corporate campus general improvement districts. Um and do

general improvement districts. Um and do a roll call. So we have to follow the

a roll call. So we have to follow the same process as council. Um I think

same process as council. Um I think we've all been through this at least

we've all been through this at least once or twice already. Um, and so, um,

once or twice already. Um, and so, um, as the council knows, we have to, uh, go

as the council knows, we have to, uh, go through the process of of roll call,

through the process of of roll call, calling to order, approving minutes, all

calling to order, approving minutes, all that public hearing. So, we got, uh,

that public hearing. So, we got, uh, four GDs to get through tonight. Um, do

four GDs to get through tonight. Um, do we need to start with a roll call? Cler

we need to start with a roll call? Cler Beck.

Beck. >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> Director Barnes

>> Director Barnes >> here,

>> here, >> director Freedelland

>> director Freedelland >> here,

>> here, >> director Gigos

>> director Gigos >> here,

>> here, >> Chair Mongette

>> Chair Mongette >> here,

>> here, >> director Samson

>> director Samson >> here,

>> here, >> director Tapia Vega

>> director Tapia Vega >> here,

>> here, >> and Vice Chair Wong

>> and Vice Chair Wong >> here. We have a quer.

>> here. We have a quer. >> All right. Thank you. Um, uh, we have a

>> All right. Thank you. Um, uh, we have a CFO here to give us some background on

CFO here to give us some background on some of these topics.

some of these topics. >> Yep. So, we're here to approve, uh, the

>> Yep. So, we're here to approve, uh, the GIS. Um, so,

GIS. Um, so, >> actually, sorry, I don't I didn't mean

>> actually, sorry, I don't I didn't mean to cut you off. I'm wondering if I

to cut you off. I'm wondering if I should call the meeting to order prior

should call the meeting to order prior to your presentation. Um, and I believe,

to your presentation. Um, and I believe, um,

um, >> yeah,

>> yeah, >> I know you're giving back, are you

>> I know you're giving back, are you giving background to all of the GIS or

giving background to all of the GIS or or are you starting with the

or are you starting with the >> I'm giving a little bit of background

>> I'm giving a little bit of background and then talking about the call call to

and then talking about the call call to order, approval, minutes, and process.

order, approval, minutes, and process. So, I can do that and then you can

So, I can do that and then you can >> that that works better. Apologize.

>> that that works better. Apologize. >> No, no, no. You're great.

>> No, no, no. You're great. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> Um, okay. So, some background. General

>> Um, okay. So, some background. General improvement districts are created to

improvement districts are created to finance infrastructure on land intended

finance infrastructure on land intended for development. City administers four

for development. City administers four GIDs. The GIDs are separate budgets from

GIDs. The GIDs are separate budgets from the city budget. Uh, and city council is

the city budget. Uh, and city council is the exeicio board of director for each

the exeicio board of director for each GID and must convene sessions for each

GID and must convene sessions for each to approve their respective budgets,

to approve their respective budgets, which is what we're doing this evening.

which is what we're doing this evening. Um, so we're going to call to order. So

Um, so we're going to call to order. So for each GI call to order, approval of

for each GI call to order, approval of minutes, budget presentation, and then a

minutes, budget presentation, and then a public hearing with the budget

public hearing with the budget resolutions, and then we'll adjourn and

resolutions, and then we'll adjourn and then go to the next GI budget. So, um,

then go to the next GI budget. So, um, city center is our first one and I so I

city center is our first one and I so I would say probably at this point.

would say probably at this point. >> Awesome. Yes. Um, I will call to order

>> Awesome. Yes. Um, I will call to order the meeting of the Lafayette city center

the meeting of the Lafayette city center general improvement district.

general improvement district. >> Okay. So, city center is our first one

>> Okay. So, city center is our first one here. Um, so this is uh a motion to

here. Um, so this is uh a motion to approve the minutes.

approve the minutes. >> I move to approve the October 15, 2024

>> I move to approve the October 15, 2024 minutes for the city center general

minutes for the city center general improvement district meeting.

improvement district meeting. >> Second.

>> Second. >> All right. We have a motion and second.

>> All right. We have a motion and second. All those in favor say I. I.

All those in favor say I. I. >> Any opposed? None opposed. That passes

>> Any opposed? None opposed. That passes unanimously. Thank you.

unanimously. Thank you. >> Okay. And then uh the 2026 budget for

>> Okay. And then uh the 2026 budget for city center which was established in

city center which was established in 1998. The debt was issued in 1999 and

1998. The debt was issued in 1999 and paid off in 2018. Um the condition of

paid off in 2018. Um the condition of improvements is currently being assessed

improvements is currently being assessed to determine if the G should continue to

to determine if the G should continue to operate. And the 2026 budget is a mill

operate. And the 2026 budget is a mill levy of458 mills which generates an

levy of458 mills which generates an assessment of a little over $6,000.

assessment of a little over $6,000. And then we have the public hearing.

And then we have the public hearing. >> Okay. Are there any members of the

>> Okay. Are there any members of the public that wish to speak on this

public that wish to speak on this project?

project? >> Okay. And let me just double check that

>> Okay. And let me just double check that there aren't any online.

Okay. Seeing none hearing none, I'll close the public input.

I move to approve resolution number 2025-01

2025-01 adopting a budget making appropriations

adopting a budget making appropriations for the budget year 2026 and approving a

for the budget year 2026 and approving a mill levy for the city center general

mill levy for the city center general improvement district.

improvement district. >> Second.

>> Second. >> All right. U

>> All right. U motion and a second. Any further

motion and a second. Any further discussion? All right. All those in

discussion? All right. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed?

favor say I. I. Any opposed? >> None opposed. That passes unanimously.

>> None opposed. That passes unanimously. >> All right. So, we're on to the tech

>> All right. So, we're on to the tech center here. That's the location.

center here. That's the location. >> Um, so I'll adjourn the meeting of the

>> Um, so I'll adjourn the meeting of the Lafayette City Center General

Lafayette City Center General Improvement District. And we and I will

Improvement District. And we and I will call to order um the uh meeting of the

call to order um the uh meeting of the Lafayette Tech Center General

Lafayette Tech Center General Improvement District.

Improvement District. >> And we'll take a motion for minutes.

>> And we'll take a motion for minutes. >> I move to approve the October 15, 2024

>> I move to approve the October 15, 2024 minutes for the Tech Center General

minutes for the Tech Center General Improvement District meeting.

Improvement District meeting. >> Second.

>> Okay. Motion in a second. All those in favor say I.

favor say I. >> I.

>> I. >> Any opposed? 10 opposed. That passes

>> Any opposed? 10 opposed. That passes unanimously. Thank you.

unanimously. Thank you. >> Um, so the tech center 2026 budget, this

>> Um, so the tech center 2026 budget, this was established in 1999. The debt was

was established in 1999. The debt was issued in 2006, which is scheduled to be

issued in 2006, which is scheduled to be paid in full in 2036. The balance

paid in full in 2036. The balance remaining is a little over 1.2 million

remaining is a little over 1.2 million uh as at the end of this year. And then

uh as at the end of this year. And then the 2026 budget, the mill levy is 15.697

the 2026 budget, the mill levy is 15.697 mills. Um, the debt service is 153,000

mills. Um, the debt service is 153,000 and the operating costs are uh 2,663.

and the operating costs are uh 2,663. So that's the budget for the tech center

So that's the budget for the tech center and then public hearing.

and then public hearing. >> All right, this is a public hearing. Are

>> All right, this is a public hearing. Are there any members of the public that

there any members of the public that wish to speak on this item?

wish to speak on this item? Not seeing in person, not seeing any

Not seeing in person, not seeing any online. So I'll close public input. And

online. So I'll close public input. And sorry, I didn't know if someone's about

sorry, I didn't know if someone's about to stand. I'll close public input and

to stand. I'll close public input and we'll move on um to council discussion

we'll move on um to council discussion and a motion.

and a motion. >> I move to approve resolution number

>> I move to approve resolution number 2025-01

2025-01 adopting a budget making appropriations

adopting a budget making appropriations for the budget year 2026 and approving a

for the budget year 2026 and approving a mill levy for the tech center general

mill levy for the tech center general improvement district.

improvement district. >> Second,

>> Second, >> sorry.

>> sorry. >> Um a motion and a second. All those in

>> Um a motion and a second. All those in favor say I.

favor say I. >> I. Any oppose say no. None. No opposed.

>> I. Any oppose say no. None. No opposed. Okay. Uh thank you. And um with that I

Okay. Uh thank you. And um with that I will adjourn uh the meeting of the

will adjourn uh the meeting of the Lafayette Tech Center and I will call to

Lafayette Tech Center and I will call to order um the meeting of the Exempla G

order um the meeting of the Exempla G General Improvement District.

General Improvement District. >> So this is Exempla. There's the

>> So this is Exempla. There's the location.

location. I move to approve the October 15, 2024

I move to approve the October 15, 2024 minutes for the Exempla General

minutes for the Exempla General Improvement District meeting.

Improvement District meeting. >> Second. Motion and second. All those in

>> Second. Motion and second. All those in favor say I. I.

favor say I. I. >> Any oppose? None oppose. That passes

>> Any oppose? None oppose. That passes unanimously. Thank you.

unanimously. Thank you. >> So the Exempla 2026 budget established

>> So the Exempla 2026 budget established in 2002. The debt was issued in 2002 and

in 2002. The debt was issued in 2002 and that's been paid off in 2019. Uh the

that's been paid off in 2019. Uh the condition of improvements again uh is

condition of improvements again uh is being similar to the one previously that

being similar to the one previously that um completed their debt. Uh is being

um completed their debt. Uh is being assessed to determine if the G should

assessed to determine if the G should continue to operate. Uh the 2026 budget,

continue to operate. Uh the 2026 budget, the mill levy is.313 mills, which

the mill levy is.313 mills, which generates a little over $8,000

generates a little over $8,000 annually.

Okay, awesome. This is a public hearing. Are there any members of the public that

Are there any members of the public that wish to speak on this item?

wish to speak on this item? Okay, seeing none in person and seeing

Okay, seeing none in person and seeing none online, I'll close public input.

none online, I'll close public input. We'll take a motion, please.

We'll take a motion, please. I move to

I move to >> I move to approve resolution number 2025

>> I move to approve resolution number 2025 01 adopting a budget making

01 adopting a budget making appropriations for the budget year 2026

appropriations for the budget year 2026 and approving a mill levy for the

and approving a mill levy for the exemplate general improvement district

>> second. >> All right motion to second. All those in

>> All right motion to second. All those in favor say I. I. Any oppose say no. None

favor say I. I. Any oppose say no. None opposed. That passes unanimously. Great.

opposed. That passes unanimously. Great. Um, so I will adjourn the meeting of the

Um, so I will adjourn the meeting of the Exempla General Improvement District and

Exempla General Improvement District and I will open up

I will open up uh final one here. This is opening I'm

uh final one here. This is opening I'm calling to order the meeting of the

calling to order the meeting of the Lafia Corporate Campus General

Lafia Corporate Campus General Improvement District.

Improvement District. >> Yep. So this is corporate campus

>> Yep. So this is corporate campus um minutes.

um minutes. >> I move to approve the October 15, 2024

>> I move to approve the October 15, 2024 minutes for the corporate campus general

minutes for the corporate campus general improvement district meeting.

improvement district meeting. >> Second

>> Second motion and second. All those in favor

motion and second. All those in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Say no. None

say I. I. Any oppose? Say no. None opposed. Pass unanimously.

opposed. Pass unanimously. >> Corporate campus 2026 budget. This was

>> Corporate campus 2026 budget. This was established in 2002, same year as the

established in 2002, same year as the debt was issued, and that's scheduled to

debt was issued, and that's scheduled to be paid in full in 2031. The balance

be paid in full in 2031. The balance remaining is 895,000

remaining is 895,000 uh by the end of this year. Um this

uh by the end of this year. Um this budget includes a mill levy of 12.230

budget includes a mill levy of 12.230 mills. Um and the debt service is

mills. Um and the debt service is 227,000 and operating costs a little

227,000 and operating costs a little over 4,000 for corporate campus.

Okay. Uh, this is a public hearing. Um, are there any members of the public that

are there any members of the public that wish to speak on this topic? Not seeing

wish to speak on this topic? Not seeing any in person. I am also not seeing any

any in person. I am also not seeing any callers online. So, I'll close public

callers online. So, I'll close public input. And we'll take a motion, please.

input. And we'll take a motion, please. I move to approve resolution number

I move to approve resolution number 2025-01

2025-01 adopting a budget making appropriations

adopting a budget making appropriations for the budget year 2026 and approving a

for the budget year 2026 and approving a mill levy for the corporate campus

mill levy for the corporate campus general improvement district.

general improvement district. >> Second

>> Second motion and second. All those in favor

motion and second. All those in favor say I. I. Any oppos? Saying no. None

say I. I. Any oppos? Saying no. None opposed. That passes unanimously. Thank

opposed. That passes unanimously. Thank you.

you. >> Thank you. and I will adjourn the

>> Thank you. and I will adjourn the meeting of the Lafayette Corporate

meeting of the Lafayette Corporate Campus uh general improvement district

Campus uh general improvement district and we will reconvene as the Lafayette

and we will reconvene as the Lafayette city council. Thank you.

city council. Thank you. >> All right.

>> All right. Um that wraps up our um business um for

Um that wraps up our um business um for tonight and we will close with reports.

tonight and we will close with reports. Uh begin with the city of attorney's

Uh begin with the city of attorney's report.

report. >> Thank you, mayor. I don't have any

>> Thank you, mayor. I don't have any reports this evening.

reports this evening. >> Some Thank you. On to the city manager

>> Some Thank you. On to the city manager report.

report. >> Thank you, mayor. Good evening, council.

>> Thank you, mayor. Good evening, council. So, a few things to note um tonight. So,

So, a few things to note um tonight. So, as a reminder, our city facility um has

as a reminder, our city facility um has a ballot box drop off at the Lafayette

a ballot box drop off at the Lafayette Library. It is open until 7:00 p.m. in

Library. It is open until 7:00 p.m. in November 4th. So, please stop by if you

November 4th. So, please stop by if you need to mail or drop off your ballot as

need to mail or drop off your ballot as I believe mailin is probably too late at

I believe mailin is probably too late at this point or iffy. So, definitely just

this point or iffy. So, definitely just drop it by. It's nice and easy and go

drop it by. It's nice and easy and go check out a book while you're there. Um

check out a book while you're there. Um also, residents enrolled in the

also, residents enrolled in the Republic's three-cart program, um we

Republic's three-cart program, um we have our annual leaf and branch pickup.

have our annual leaf and branch pickup. So they can set out leaves, grass

So they can set out leaves, grass clipping weeds, bundle tree branches on

clipping weeds, bundle tree branches on the curbside on the following dates. Um

the curbside on the following dates. Um as a reminder, each household may place

as a reminder, each household may place up to 20 bags of leaves and five bundles

up to 20 bags of leaves and five bundles of shrubbery or tree limbs securely

of shrubbery or tree limbs securely tied. So on November for November 1st,

tied. So on November for November 1st, the south and south b south of South

the south and south b south of South Boulder Road and east and west of

Boulder Road and east and west of Highway 287. You can see the map. Also

Highway 287. You can see the map. Also go online if this is too small, but

go online if this is too small, but November 8th, north of South Boulder

November 8th, north of South Boulder Road and east of Highway 287.

Road and east of Highway 287. And then our last one on November 15th

And then our last one on November 15th which is west of 287 and north of South

which is west of 287 and north of South Boulder Road. And then we are pleased to

Boulder Road. And then we are pleased to host our kind of internal third annual

host our kind of internal third annual employee appreciation event. Um this

employee appreciation event. Um this will be on Wednesday, November 5th and

will be on Wednesday, November 5th and uh most if not all city facilities will

uh most if not all city facilities will be closed from 3:00 to 5:00 p.m. and

be closed from 3:00 to 5:00 p.m. and we'll be getting messaging out on our

we'll be getting messaging out on our website about that as well. This is

website about that as well. This is where we um unveil kind of our core

where we um unveil kind of our core championships and our years of service

championships and our years of service award and it's been really fun hosted at

award and it's been really fun hosted at every year. So, we're looking forward to

every year. So, we're looking forward to that internally. Um, looking ahead, want

that internally. Um, looking ahead, want to note that our next Tuesday meeting is

to note that our next Tuesday meeting is scheduled for Monday in observance of

scheduled for Monday in observance of election day. So, Monday, November 3rd,

election day. So, Monday, November 3rd, we're going to be doing a presentation

we're going to be doing a presentation on the 2026 mental health and human

on the 2026 mental health and human services funding recommendations for the

services funding recommendations for the next year. A presentation on the 701

next year. A presentation on the 701 concept park design, kind of updating

concept park design, kind of updating where we've been over the past several

where we've been over the past several months, a public hearing on the sketch

months, a public hearing on the sketch plan process amendments. uh first

plan process amendments. uh first reading of items pertaining to fees and

reading of items pertaining to fees and purchasing. This is the ordinance that

purchasing. This is the ordinance that we've been talking about that kind of

we've been talking about that kind of removes all of the fees in various

removes all of the fees in various sections, reestablishes a new chapter.

sections, reestablishes a new chapter. Um that way we can have it all cleaned

Um that way we can have it all cleaned up moving into 2026. And then a motion

up moving into 2026. And then a motion to accept a Colorado 42 IGA with the

to accept a Colorado 42 IGA with the city of Lewisville. They are the funding

city of Lewisville. They are the funding agent of this larger project. Our

agent of this larger project. Our project is from Highway 42 from Pascal

project is from Highway 42 from Pascal um and northward. And then November

um and northward. And then November 18th, we'll have a presentation like we

18th, we'll have a presentation like we noted on the parks, recreation, and golf

noted on the parks, recreation, and golf fee philosophy update, first reading of

fee philosophy update, first reading of our last and final 2025 budget

our last and final 2025 budget supplemental, and then your um newly

supplemental, and then your um newly established kind of annual board,

established kind of annual board, commission, and committee appointments.

commission, and committee appointments. That's all I have for tonight, mayor.

That's all I have for tonight, mayor. Thank you.

Thank you. >> Awesome. Thank you so much. All right,

>> Awesome. Thank you so much. All right, we'll wrap up tonight's meeting with

we'll wrap up tonight's meeting with council reports.

council reports. >> Start down here. Councelor Tabby Vega.

>> Start down here. Councelor Tabby Vega. >> Uh no reports tonight. Thanks. Thank

>> Uh no reports tonight. Thanks. Thank you, councelor Samson.

you, councelor Samson. >> Uh the regional homeless working group

>> Uh the regional homeless working group or Boulder County uh met and this is the

or Boulder County uh met and this is the first time I've had a chance to get back

first time I've had a chance to get back to you all. Um they are uh looking at

to you all. Um they are uh looking at two different things. First of all, we

two different things. First of all, we have an ADU financing roundt

have an ADU financing roundt um that will happen this Friday, October

um that will happen this Friday, October 31st from 10 until 11:30 at the

31st from 10 until 11:30 at the community room in Willoughby Corner.

community room in Willoughby Corner. They're going to have um a variety of

They're going to have um a variety of lenders, CDFIs,

lenders, CDFIs, um Chaffa, they're basically financial

um Chaffa, they're basically financial person people who are going to say how

person people who are going to say how are we going to help people understand

are we going to help people understand how do you finance an ADU on your

how do you finance an ADU on your property? Um the working group has also

property? Um the working group has also decided that in each one of the

decided that in each one of the communities there should be something

communities there should be something that information we need to get out and

that information we need to get out and not just on a website. Um, and there is

not just on a website. Um, and there is um the request to do whether it's a a

um the request to do whether it's a a fair, an ADU fair or anformational event

fair, an ADU fair or anformational event maybe at a library or something to that

maybe at a library or something to that effect. This I I've told them this is

effect. This I I've told them this is not the time. November is not the time

not the time. November is not the time to do this that it should be moving

to do this that it should be moving forward on that. But I don't know who

forward on that. But I don't know who will take my place on that committee in

will take my place on that committee in another few months. So, I'm saying it

another few months. So, I'm saying it out there to whomever is watching that.

out there to whomever is watching that. Um, another really interesting thing,

Um, another really interesting thing, um, if you're interested in ADUs and the

um, if you're interested in ADUs and the promotion of ADUs, um, there is a

promotion of ADUs, um, there is a website called Launch Longmont and

website called Launch Longmont and that's got some great information on it

that's got some great information on it on ADUs.

on ADUs. >> The second thing I was going to say is I

>> The second thing I was going to say is I don't know when we're going to talk

don't know when we're going to talk about the Epic

about the Epic um, grant bring it up.

um, grant bring it up. >> Were you? because I was going to say I I

>> Were you? because I was going to say I I I have just some general thoughts. So

I have just some general thoughts. So maybe you bring it up, but I I you know,

maybe you bring it up, but I I you know, as somebody who works in grants at the

as somebody who works in grants at the state, I'm you know, I'm going to say

state, I'm you know, I'm going to say what's being requested is that we're a

what's being requested is that we're a fiscal agent, which means we actually

fiscal agent, which means we actually take on the liability. So no matter what

take on the liability. So no matter what we do, we would have to be the ones that

we do, we would have to be the ones that not only submit the application, we

not only submit the application, we would be the ones that are are in

would be the ones that are are in contact with the state because that's

contact with the state because that's the way it works. So we would receive

the way it works. So we would receive it. We would be responsible for

it. We would be responsible for submitting reports. Ultimately

submitting reports. Ultimately we would be responsible

we would be responsible should anything

should anything not meet up to what we sign in that

not meet up to what we sign in that agreement we the city would be

agreement we the city would be responsible. So if you if it you know if

responsible. So if you if it you know if it comes down the granting agency gives

it comes down the granting agency gives to the grantee or the grant recipient

to the grantee or the grant recipient and then we sub receipt we have a

and then we sub receipt we have a subreient. And so in that whole process,

subreient. And so in that whole process, just know that from the state's

just know that from the state's perspective,

perspective, the city is responsible.

the city is responsible. Um so this there are usually fiscal

Um so this there are usually fiscal agents. There are groups that um can

agents. There are groups that um can serve as fiscal agents. Um, it is true

serve as fiscal agents. Um, it is true that you can take a percentage off the

that you can take a percentage off the top in order to fund your administration

top in order to fund your administration of that, but again, you also take on all

of that, but again, you also take on all the responsibility

the responsibility of that grant and all the activities of

of that grant and all the activities of that grant. So, I think I I don't know

that grant. So, I think I I don't know if the city has a staff member or not,

if the city has a staff member or not, but I would say there's a lot of

but I would say there's a lot of questions that I think we might need to

questions that I think we might need to delve into a little deeper. Not familiar

delve into a little deeper. Not familiar with this grant.

with this grant. um the CDPHE grant on this, but from a

um the CDPHE grant on this, but from a general perspective, just wanted to

general perspective, just wanted to clarify what was being asked tonight.

clarify what was being asked tonight. >> Thank you, Councelor Freriedman.

>> Thank you, Councelor Freriedman. >> Yeah. Well, let's start there. Okay.

>> Yeah. Well, let's start there. Okay. >> Um Okay. So my understanding of the

>> Um Okay. So my understanding of the request is um the group Lafayette

request is um the group Lafayette Communities that Care um they have a

Communities that Care um they have a partnership with um

partnership with um >> Colorado Department

>> Colorado Department >> Bridges of

>> Bridges of >> Bridges Bridges of Opportunity

>> Bridges Bridges of Opportunity >> Y

>> Y >> um and they've been doing lots of work

>> um and they've been doing lots of work generally and previously

generally and previously um had um you know really strong

um had um you know really strong relationship with Boulder County Public

relationship with Boulder County Public Health that, you know, some of that

Health that, you know, some of that support fell away given what's going on

support fell away given what's going on with the county and their and their

with the county and their and their their budget issues, challenges. Um, and

their budget issues, challenges. Um, and they were looking for a new uh fiscal

they were looking for a new uh fiscal agent to go to the state. and Sister

agent to go to the state. and Sister Carmen was looking promising from what I

Carmen was looking promising from what I understand, but because of what's going

understand, but because of what's going on right now with food support and SNAP,

on right now with food support and SNAP, Sister Carmen had to really say we just

Sister Carmen had to really say we just need to be like hyperfocused on what's

need to be like hyperfocused on what's right ahead of us right now. And so, um,

right ahead of us right now. And so, um, that's why it's to us. And so, um, you

that's why it's to us. And so, um, you know, those are all really good points

know, those are all really good points and I I probably agree with almost all

and I I probably agree with almost all of them in terms of challenges and

of them in terms of challenges and things we need to explore with this, but

things we need to explore with this, but sometimes

sometimes the world doesn't go according to plan.

the world doesn't go according to plan. And I think we're in one of those

And I think we're in one of those moments. And while I have a lot of

moments. And while I have a lot of hesitations and, you know, concern about

hesitations and, you know, concern about can we really do this? How do we do

can we really do this? How do we do this? It seems like a really good group

this? It seems like a really good group of folks that are doing really good work

of folks that are doing really good work now and have a good idea of what they

now and have a good idea of what they can do with this money.

can do with this money. >> And while yeah, all those things you

>> And while yeah, all those things you said, Nicole, and I'm sure there's

said, Nicole, and I'm sure there's others, too, that are make me hesitate,

others, too, that are make me hesitate, um,

um, you know, I would hate to I would hate

you know, I would hate to I would hate to lose that level of support for our

to lose that level of support for our community that currently exists and

community that currently exists and could be amplified. um if we can step in

could be amplified. um if we can step in and give them the framework so that they

and give them the framework so that they can go and do the good work. Um so, you

can go and do the good work. Um so, you know, I'm interested in I think um

know, I'm interested in I think um hearing the what the rest of council

hearing the what the rest of council thinks in terms of this and what my kind

thinks in terms of this and what my kind of ask would be in terms of direction

of ask would be in terms of direction would be directing staff to um look at

would be directing staff to um look at this more basically, right? Um, and um,

this more basically, right? Um, and um, not necessarily committing us to this

not necessarily committing us to this now, but you know, saying, "Hey, like,

now, but you know, saying, "Hey, like, let's see if we can do this." Um, I know

let's see if we can do this." Um, I know it's not ideal. Um, I'm sure they agree

it's not ideal. Um, I'm sure they agree it's not ideal. Um, but, you know,

it's not ideal. Um, but, you know, sometimes we just need to step into the

sometimes we just need to step into the void that's been placed in front of us.

void that's been placed in front of us. >> Great. Thank you. I'd like our city

>> Great. Thank you. I'd like our city attorney to weigh in, please.

attorney to weigh in, please. >> Uh, thank you, mayor, and certainly

>> Uh, thank you, mayor, and certainly council. You should continue our

council. You should continue our discussion, but I did want to share um

discussion, but I did want to share um just a couple of concerns. So, it's my

just a couple of concerns. So, it's my understanding that staff received the

understanding that staff received the proposal today. Um, we haven't had an

proposal today. Um, we haven't had an opportunity to look at any of the

opportunity to look at any of the background documents. We don't know

background documents. We don't know about the program. We don't know the

about the program. We don't know the requirements um that will be attached to

requirements um that will be attached to the grant uh grant funds. And just in

the grant uh grant funds. And just in general in a situation like this, we've

general in a situation like this, we've we've been in similar partnerships in

we've been in similar partnerships in the past where we've provided um where

the past where we've provided um where we've been an applicant or a backbone

we've been an applicant or a backbone organization for a grant program, but

organization for a grant program, but we've had time to review the underlying

we've had time to review the underlying grant agreements. And uh in the case of

grant agreements. And uh in the case of a recent one I can think of, I was able

a recent one I can think of, I was able to have the opportunity to insert terms

to have the opportunity to insert terms that would protect the city from

that would protect the city from liability if there was negligence or

liability if there was negligence or default by the co-licant. um and we're

default by the co-licant. um and we're not being given that opportunity here.

not being given that opportunity here. And so I I have concerns in terms of

And so I I have concerns in terms of protecting the city that we would at

protecting the city that we would at least need time to uh look at

least need time to uh look at everything. And it sounds like we

everything. And it sounds like we haven't been given a very um

haven't been given a very um uh long timeline here. In fact, I I

uh long timeline here. In fact, I I don't know for sure, but it sounds like

don't know for sure, but it sounds like they are looking for an answer this

they are looking for an answer this week. Um, and just with workloads and

week. Um, and just with workloads and how long these agreements tend to be and

how long these agreements tend to be and the program details, I am concerned

the program details, I am concerned about staff being able to take a

about staff being able to take a diligent look uh at the very least at at

diligent look uh at the very least at at the underlying documents. Um, so I would

the underlying documents. Um, so I would just like you to consider that. Um,

just like you to consider that. Um, uh, there just needs to be there needs

uh, there just needs to be there needs to be legal review and there needs to be

to be legal review and there needs to be staff review to make sure that we have

staff review to make sure that we have the resources

the resources um, to be the backbone organization.

um, to be the backbone organization. There are just from looking at the

There are just from looking at the email, there are a lot of obligations on

email, there are a lot of obligations on the city and I just want to make sure

the city and I just want to make sure that we're protected and I'm not

that we're protected and I'm not confident in that right now without

confident in that right now without having an opportunity to look at what's

having an opportunity to look at what's involved.

involved. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> So, I'm I'm hearing um hesitancy from

>> So, I'm I'm hearing um hesitancy from counselor Samson. hearing. Um,

counselor Samson. hearing. Um, >> I I want to clarify. I wasn't trying to

>> I I want to clarify. I wasn't trying to be hesitant other than I just feel like

be hesitant other than I just feel like I, you know, somebody give me five hours

I, you know, somebody give me five hours and I could probably get through all of

and I could probably get through all of this and give you a good summary. I feel

this and give you a good summary. I feel bad because this is this is what I've

bad because this is this is what I've been doing is, you know, grants. But I

been doing is, you know, grants. But I can't even tell you.

can't even tell you. >> It might have federal regulations in it.

>> It might have federal regulations in it. >> If it does, that's a whole another

>> If it does, that's a whole another animal. I don't know. I don't know

animal. I don't know. I don't know enough. So, no,

enough. So, no, >> I just don't want to make the decision

>> I just don't want to make the decision immediate without knowing more

immediate without knowing more information.

information. >> Of course, and I apologize for

>> Of course, and I apologize for >> Yeah, sorry. Not

>> Yeah, sorry. Not >> um I'm not I guess what I meant to say

>> um I'm not I guess what I meant to say is like um I'm hearing that folks would

is like um I'm hearing that folks would like to look into this more thoroughly.

like to look into this more thoroughly. However, at the same time, I'm also

However, at the same time, I'm also hearing that there is a sense of urgency

hearing that there is a sense of urgency um due to um uh you know due to the

um due to um uh you know due to the organization needing some a fiscal agent

organization needing some a fiscal agent to be established by the end of the week

to be established by the end of the week or by Monday.

or by Monday. >> Oh. Um and so Monday

>> Oh. Um and so Monday >> and so yeah because yeah and and I do

>> and so yeah because yeah and and I do understand that the organization is in a

understand that the organization is in a bit of a bind because they did have

bit of a bind because they did have previous commitments as they mentioned

previous commitments as they mentioned at public comment with other

at public comment with other organizations that fell through at the

organizations that fell through at the last minute and that's why we're in this

last minute and that's why we're in this situation city's sort of coming in as

situation city's sort of coming in as sort of a you know a last minute um

sort of a you know a last minute um potential support system in this um and

potential support system in this um and so but I at the same time I'm also

so but I at the same time I'm also hearing from council freed that he would

hearing from council freed that he would like at least staff to take some time to

like at least staff to take some time to explore this and in the next day or two

explore this and in the next day or two to see what's possible and what's not.

to see what's possible and what's not. >> Yeah. And C could I ask a follow-up

>> Yeah. And C could I ask a follow-up question to our city attorney? Yeah.

question to our city attorney? Yeah. >> So, in terms of I think I'm hearing you

>> So, in terms of I think I'm hearing you say I think two things that enough time

say I think two things that enough time to do our due diligence to review the uh

to do our due diligence to review the uh the RFA detail and the the application

the RFA detail and the the application detail and also in whatever agreement we

detail and also in whatever agreement we would have with the the sub

would have with the the sub subcontractors I don't know

subcontractors I don't know >> subreients

>> subreients >> definitely need to review that

>> definitely need to review that >> we would need to develop some sort ofou

>> we would need to develop some sort ofou or some sort of contract some sort of

or some sort of contract some sort of agreement. Yep,

agreement. Yep, >> that's correct.

>> that's correct. >> Yeah, usually usually you get we apply,

>> Yeah, usually usually you get we apply, we'd receive the funds, and then we'd

we'd receive the funds, and then we'd write a contract with them.

write a contract with them. >> And often, council, if I may add, uh we

>> And often, council, if I may add, uh we often approve, we have council consider

often approve, we have council consider and approve a resolution before the

and approve a resolution before the application goes in stating that we are

application goes in stating that we are partnering. Um so that it's clear that

partnering. Um so that it's clear that at least upfront we understand the role

at least upfront we understand the role we have in the application as a

we have in the application as a co-licant if that's what it is. Again, I

co-licant if that's what it is. Again, I don't know enough about this grant

don't know enough about this grant program to even say what would need to

program to even say what would need to be in the resolution tonight, but um we

be in the resolution tonight, but um we typically have council take action that

typically have council take action that you as the city are uh committing the

you as the city are uh committing the city to move forward with this process

city to move forward with this process in case the grant is awarded, in which

in case the grant is awarded, in which case additional council action would be

case additional council action would be needed. So, um this would just be a real

needed. So, um this would just be a real departure from how we've handled uh

departure from how we've handled uh partnerships like this in the past. And

partnerships like this in the past. And um and you do have a meeting on Monday.

um and you do have a meeting on Monday. Uh you have a regular meeting on Monday

Uh you have a regular meeting on Monday due to the election on Tuesday, but it

due to the election on Tuesday, but it sounds like maybe that's still not a

sounds like maybe that's still not a enough time for council to take action.

enough time for council to take action. And again, I'm only saying this from a

And again, I'm only saying this from a um perspective of of ensuring that the

um perspective of of ensuring that the city's adequately protected

city's adequately protected and I just don't have enough information

and I just don't have enough information right now. and I haven't reviewed the

right now. and I haven't reviewed the documents to be able to say for sure

documents to be able to say for sure that um that it would be in the best

that um that it would be in the best interest of the city to take action this

interest of the city to take action this quickly on this program.

quickly on this program. >> Understood. But just to clarify in terms

>> Understood. But just to clarify in terms of the contract with a subreient

of the contract with a subreient that could be done after an application

that could be done after an application was submitted.

was submitted. >> Uh I don't know because I don't know all

>> Uh I don't know because I don't know all the details of how the grant program is

the details of how the grant program is set up and what the requirements for

set up and what the requirements for applying are like if that already needed

applying are like if that already needed to be in place. I just don't know.

to be in place. I just don't know. Understood. Thank you.

Understood. Thank you. So I in addition to what our attorney

So I in addition to what our attorney had just brought up, I think council

had just brought up, I think council needs to make a a decision if this is

needs to make a a decision if this is something that they would like staff to

something that they would like staff to prioritize in the next day or two, which

prioritize in the next day or two, which means, you know, um work on that and dig

means, you know, um work on that and dig into the background, dig into the

into the background, dig into the details, look into those requirements as

details, look into those requirements as a as a priority due to the urgency of

a as a priority due to the urgency of the situation or at the same time, do we

the situation or at the same time, do we feel like this is something that we can

feel like this is something that we can um want to come back at a later date and

um want to come back at a later date and discuss for opportunity in the future.

discuss for opportunity in the future. Um it's just a matter of that and then

Um it's just a matter of that and then in addition to that we had do have the

in addition to that we had do have the issue with a potential resolution that

issue with a potential resolution that council would need to pass based off the

council would need to pass based off the timing of our meeting which as mentioned

timing of our meeting which as mentioned our next meeting would be on Monday

our next meeting would be on Monday evening. Yes, councelor Barnes.

evening. Yes, councelor Barnes. >> Thank you mayor. I did we haven't talked

>> Thank you mayor. I did we haven't talked about extension to the deadline and my

about extension to the deadline and my experience is that

experience is that because we haven't asked for an

because we haven't asked for an extension to the deadline we don't know

extension to the deadline we don't know that that's possible for the applying

that that's possible for the applying for this grant knowing that we could be

for this grant knowing that we could be potentially the fiscal partner in this

potentially the fiscal partner in this groups I don't I don't know that we can

groups I don't I don't know that we can make all the decisions yet until we talk

make all the decisions yet until we talk to CDPH and see if we can get a push an

to CDPH and see if we can get a push an extension on when it needs to be an

extension on when it needs to be an application needs to be submitted. I

application needs to be submitted. I haven't heard anybody say that that's

haven't heard anybody say that that's not a possibility yet.

not a possibility yet. >> So, I'm just putting that out there that

>> So, I'm just putting that out there that >> that also needs to be considered.

>> that also needs to be considered. >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> And if staff looks into it, one of the

>> And if staff looks into it, one of the things I'd like to look into is can we

things I'd like to look into is can we get an extension on when the deadline

get an extension on when the deadline application's applied?

application's applied? >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> All right. So, this is a a council

>> All right. So, this is a a council priority discussion. Is this something

priority discussion. Is this something that council feels like they would like

that council feels like they would like to prioritize over the next couple days

to prioritize over the next couple days or is this something that we can wait on

or is this something that we can wait on that you'd like to see us wait on? It's

that you'd like to see us wait on? It's it's up to really council at this point,

it's up to really council at this point, but keep in mind, you know, our what our

but keep in mind, you know, our what our attorneys um what our attorney mentioned

attorneys um what our attorney mentioned as well. And then I want to make sure

as well. And then I want to make sure before we move forward with anything

before we move forward with anything that staff and is aware of the direction

that staff and is aware of the direction of council and we can clarify anything

of council and we can clarify anything as well that's needed.

So would other members I've heard from councelor Samson. I've heard from

councelor Samson. I've heard from councelor Freeland. Would other members

councelor Freeland. Would other members of the council like to weigh in on this?

of the council like to weigh in on this? Councelor Gyos.

Councelor Gyos. >> So if it is possible to move forward

>> So if it is possible to move forward with the legal review and staff review

with the legal review and staff review in the time before the application is

in the time before the application is due. I would like to move forward. They

due. I would like to move forward. They are backed by an established nonprofit

are backed by an established nonprofit organization. They were previously

organization. They were previously backed by the county and Sister Carmen

backed by the county and Sister Carmen was also willing to back them up until

was also willing to back them up until um needing to redirect their resources

um needing to redirect their resources to food assistance.

>> Okay. Thank you, Councelor Gos. Um other members of council.

I would like to see this investigated but I I al also understand that if we

but I I al also understand that if we can't do diligence in proper review

can't do diligence in proper review before the submission I think one of the

before the submission I think one of the things we need to do is but as councelor

things we need to do is but as councelor Ggo said this is a we've had a long

Ggo said this is a we've had a long relationship with CTC so I think our

relationship with CTC so I think our length of relationship um the entities

length of relationship um the entities they've been working with I I really

they've been working with I I really feel like we should

feel like we should request an extension if That's a

request an extension if That's a possibility and I I don't know that we

possibility and I I don't know that we haven't, but I would like to would like

haven't, but I would like to would like to have the staff look into

to have the staff look into what the landscape looks like for

what the landscape looks like for applying.

applying. >> Okay. And council, if I if I may

>> Okay. And council, if I if I may respectfully suggest that perhaps a

respectfully suggest that perhaps a request for an extension be um directed

request for an extension be um directed to uh communities that care because

to uh communities that care because again, we don't have enough information

again, we don't have enough information to even um request an extension at this

to even um request an extension at this time. So I I just think it would be a

time. So I I just think it would be a again this is perhaps a issue for the

again this is perhaps a issue for the city manager but um I don't know that we

city manager but um I don't know that we have enough information to know how

have enough information to know how whether or when we would need to submit

whether or when we would need to submit that.

that. >> Just uh I'm working with a little

>> Just uh I'm working with a little information tonight but

information tonight but >> maybe they could if maybe they could

>> maybe they could if maybe they could give us head nods and let us know if

give us head nods and let us know if that's something they can look into.

that's something they can look into. >> I'm wondering if it' be appropriate to

>> I'm wondering if it' be appropriate to allow the group to just come up and

allow the group to just come up and clarify some of these things.

clarify some of these things. >> That's at council's discretion.

>> That's at council's discretion. >> Okay. Would would one of you mind coming

>> Okay. Would would one of you mind coming up just so we have all the information

up just so we have all the information we need so we don't feel unprepared?

we need so we don't feel unprepared? >> Is it okay for both of us?

>> Is it okay for both of us? >> Sure.

>> Sure. >> Yeah. So I didn't introduce myself

>> Yeah. So I didn't introduce myself earlier. I'm Andy McCulla. I live at

earlier. I'm Andy McCulla. I live at 1319 Street. So you just I think

1319 Street. So you just I think councelor Freeland mentioned I am the

councelor Freeland mentioned I am the director of bridges of opportunity which

director of bridges of opportunity which is fiscal sponsor. We do fiscal

is fiscal sponsor. We do fiscal sponsors. Actually we've we've managed a

sponsors. Actually we've we've managed a grant through the city uh this year. Um,

grant through the city uh this year. Um, we're trying to figure out the best way

we're trying to figure out the best way to do this, you know, and the reason why

to do this, you know, and the reason why the the language they use in this grant

the the language they use in this grant is backbone more than fiscal sponsor and

is backbone more than fiscal sponsor and is they started to look at that we've

is they started to look at that we've been incorporated as a nonprofit

been incorporated as a nonprofit less than the time frame they've given.

less than the time frame they've given. So, this is a reimbursement based grant.

So, this is a reimbursement based grant. I don't know if that has any factor you

I don't know if that has any factor you know so the the money is not up front

know so the the money is not up front where you have the money and you have to

where you have the money and you have to give it back to the state or anything

give it back to the state or anything like that it's based reimbursement based

like that it's based reimbursement based >> but as we looked at it we thought we

>> but as we looked at it we thought we need a backbone we need an organization

need a backbone we need an organization more support but also just the fidelity

more support but also just the fidelity of that uh given the fact that we're

of that uh given the fact that we're we're a new fiscal sponsor organization

we're a new fiscal sponsor organization so I don't know if that helps but that's

so I don't know if that helps but that's one of the reasons why and I totally

one of the reasons why and I totally get all the questions you have. So I I

get all the questions you have. So I I don't know the right answer, but I think

don't know the right answer, but I think our thought was is how can we make this

our thought was is how can we make this easier for the city? And so my role of

easier for the city? And so my role of having agreement as I guess you put it

having agreement as I guess you put it subcontractor, I've never used those

subcontractor, I've never used those terms yet. So uh but just having a

terms yet. So uh but just having a contract with the city where bridges of

contract with the city where bridges of opportunity can take on usually what's

opportunity can take on usually what's the responsibility

the responsibility you know of staffing to manage the the

you know of staffing to manage the the grant that we would do that work but in

grant that we would do that work but in a in a sense the city would be like a

a in a sense the city would be like a pass through of this grant. So I I do

pass through of this grant. So I I do think there's a lot of valid questions

think there's a lot of valid questions about the the legality, what the city's

about the the legality, what the city's taking on in that. So I appreciate that.

taking on in that. So I appreciate that. So I don't know if we fully know the

So I don't know if we fully know the answer, but we're available.

answer, but we're available. I know it's very time, but whatever the

I know it's very time, but whatever the time we can do is to sit down and look

time we can do is to sit down and look at the documents and talk it through. uh

at the documents and talk it through. uh if that could be done like I don't know

if that could be done like I don't know everyone's schedule tomorrow with the

everyone's schedule tomorrow with the city manager and the attorney and just

city manager and the attorney and just go and then and then an answer be given

go and then and then an answer be given uh that could be an option you know but

uh that could be an option you know but >> did you want me to ask a bunch of

>> did you want me to ask a bunch of questions thank you on cost

questions thank you on cost reimbursement that's really important do

reimbursement that's really important do you have enough money to pay what you

you have enough money to pay what you need to do

need to do >> and then get cost reimbured

>> and then get cost reimbured >> right so the way they they actually we

>> right so the way they they actually we can request was it 25%

can request was it 25% >> 25% of the of the annual of the annual

>> 25% of the of the annual of the annual can be given first.

can be given first. >> That's called an advanced pay. So you're

>> That's called an advanced pay. So you're asking for a 25% advanced pay of the

asking for a 25% advanced pay of the grant.

grant. >> Not from the city, but from the state.

>> Not from the city, but from the state. >> No, that's the way it works. This we'd

>> No, that's the way it works. This we'd have to ask. It doesn't matter what

have to ask. It doesn't matter what you're saying. We are the fiscal agent,

you're saying. We are the fiscal agent, >> right?

>> right? >> So we'd have to ask, we'd get the money

>> So we'd have to ask, we'd get the money and then you'd have to and then we could

and then you'd have to and then we could give that to you,

give that to you, >> right? you take out the uh indirect on

>> right? you take out the uh indirect on that and then we we would manage

that and then we we would manage >> Actually, that's not how it works. You

>> Actually, that's not how it works. You actually take the indirect out on your

actually take the indirect out on your direct costs. You have to charge it each

direct costs. You have to charge it each time.

time. >> So, are you expecting to pay people

>> So, are you expecting to pay people staffing on this?

staffing on this? >> Okay. Have you done time and effort

>> Okay. Have you done time and effort before reports?

before reports? >> Um not to that extent.

>> Um not to that extent. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> Yeah. Um, what are you're not planning

>> Yeah. Um, what are you're not planning to grant this out as well?

to grant this out as well? >> No.

>> No. >> So, you're going to be the one that's

>> So, you're going to be the one that's going to pay whatever goods and services

going to pay whatever goods and services that you're getting for this.

that you're getting for this. >> Right.

>> Right. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> Right.

>> Right. >> And the actual deadline of the grant is,

>> And the actual deadline of the grant is, you know, a time. It sounds like it's

you know, a time. It sounds like it's Monday. It's sometime Monday at 5:00

Monday. It's sometime Monday at 5:00 p.m.

p.m. >> 5 p.m. Yeah, it is. It's crazy.

>> 5 p.m. Yeah, it is. It's crazy. >> Yeah. And we appreciate the

>> Yeah. And we appreciate the consideration.

consideration. >> Yeah. I think that's kind of

>> Yeah. I think that's kind of >> it is a really tough situation to be in

>> it is a really tough situation to be in and sorry to put you all into this

and sorry to put you all into this situation as well.

situation as well. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Well, ultimately we want to make this

>> Well, ultimately we want to make this process if considered by by council um

process if considered by by council um as minimal of a burden to the city

as minimal of a burden to the city because I as part of the work I mean

because I as part of the work I mean I've been a part of the work since 2016

I've been a part of the work since 2016 since I was a youth member. Uh now that

since I was a youth member. Uh now that I've been in this uh leadership role for

I've been in this uh leadership role for the last two years I've seen how the

the last two years I've seen how the grant works. I I've truly dealt with

grant works. I I've truly dealt with with every piece of the grant. Uh so I

with every piece of the grant. Uh so I feel very confident in my ability to

feel very confident in my ability to execute these pieces in my role as a

execute these pieces in my role as a community mobilizer as the state calls

community mobilizer as the state calls it. Uh and then we've had this coalition

it. Uh and then we've had this coalition since 2016. A lot of the members

since 2016. A lot of the members including Andy and some of the members

including Andy and some of the members that you see here tonight have been a

that you see here tonight have been a part of the coalition since 2016 as

part of the coalition since 2016 as well. So we fully understand what is

well. So we fully understand what is being asked of us from the state. Um so

being asked of us from the state. Um so we're we're more than confident to be

we're we're more than confident to be able to execute all these pieces with

able to execute all these pieces with fidelity and and um and yeah to the dot.

fidelity and and um and yeah to the dot. Yeah. Go ahead.

Yeah. Go ahead. >> And so the elements of the grant that

>> And so the elements of the grant that you're looking for our support with are

you're looking for our support with are you've done previously with Boulder

you've done previously with Boulder County as the backbone?

County as the backbone? >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> And so this is sort of an evolution,

>> And so this is sort of an evolution, right? Epic is the new name and all

right? Epic is the new name and all this.

this. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> And they're focusing on are they

>> And they're focusing on are they focusing on different things in this

focusing on different things in this next 5ear cycle or is it how it's very

next 5ear cycle or is it how it's very similar to what you've done before or

similar to what you've done before or different? they are doing something

different? they are doing something different this year um or for the next

different this year um or for the next five years which is actually the coolest

five years which is actually the coolest part of the whole thing is they're

part of the whole thing is they're actually wanting us to implement

actually wanting us to implement programming um and for the last 10 years

programming um and for the last 10 years our coalition has been itching to do

our coalition has been itching to do some programming uh cuz oftent times you

some programming uh cuz oftent times you know just the theoretical work in in the

know just the theoretical work in in the community yes it's good work but as

community yes it's good work but as community members living and studying in

community members living and studying in in working in Lafayette we know what

in working in Lafayette we know what what the needs are we want to be able to

what the needs are we want to be able to get to it so that is the biggest

get to it so that is the biggest difference that we'll be able to do now

difference that we'll be able to do now and our structure lays out

and our structure lays out um a partnership between um uh special

um a partnership between um uh special hobeness and um the family um sorry I'm

hobeness and um the family um sorry I'm spacing out my name uh

spacing out my name uh >> we have to follow certain guidelines so

>> we have to follow certain guidelines so there's a strength and family they have

there's a strength and family they have to be like blueprint guidelines that

to be like blueprint guidelines that they offer so especially as prayer

they offer so especially as prayer hovveness I think you might know that's

hovveness I think you might know that's the city focus

the city focus >> that was funded it's always been funded

>> that was funded it's always been funded and we've gotten other grants since but

and we've gotten other grants since but through the city uh three years of

through the city uh three years of running this program. So, what we want

running this program. So, what we want to do is take that evidence-based

to do is take that evidence-based program and kind of actually beef it up

program and kind of actually beef it up and serve greater serve the city uh the

and serve greater serve the city uh the families and and youth that are in that

families and and youth that are in that program.

program. >> And the program is called strengthening

>> And the program is called strengthening families program. And this is a vetted

families program. And this is a vetted program by the state that we've uh

program by the state that we've uh selected as best fit with our

selected as best fit with our coalition's mission and and values.

coalition's mission and and values. >> And there's a there's a geographic

>> And there's a there's a geographic component to it as well, right? The

component to it as well, right? The state is considering things based on

state is considering things based on counties.

counties. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Have we been identified as a region that

>> Have we been identified as a region that would be favored, prioritized?

would be favored, prioritized? >> So, Boulder County wasn't identified,

>> So, Boulder County wasn't identified, but it is likely that there's going to

but it is likely that there's going to be an award given in this geographical

be an award given in this geographical area. Um, it's just not a a priority

area. Um, it's just not a a priority area as they've noted for other regions.

area as they've noted for other regions. >> And do we know of any other applications

>> And do we know of any other applications that are going in in our geographic area

that are going in in our geographic area that might be competitive for us?

that might be competitive for us? >> Yes. Uh, Boulder County Public Health

>> Yes. Uh, Boulder County Public Health will be applying as well.

will be applying as well. So again, I mean, there's no guarantee.

So again, I mean, there's no guarantee. I mean, this is going to be a very

I mean, this is going to be a very competitive grant. Uh there's no

competitive grant. Uh there's no guarantee that that we would get it, but

guarantee that that we would get it, but we do believe that with the decade

we do believe that with the decade almost of the work that we've done, uh

almost of the work that we've done, uh we have a really good shot at this. All

we have a really good shot at this. All we need is the support of of a backbone.

we need is the support of of a backbone. Um and

Um and >> yeah,

>> yeah, >> yeah, the reality is that we have such a

>> yeah, the reality is that we have such a strong team. I mean, everybody that you

strong team. I mean, everybody that you see here tonight and people that you

see here tonight and people that you don't see here tonight that are a part

don't see here tonight that are a part of this coalition, they all live, work,

of this coalition, they all live, work, or go to school in Lafayette, these are

or go to school in Lafayette, these are all youth, adult members that they care

all youth, adult members that they care about this work. That's why they're a

about this work. That's why they're a part of it. And that's what we've been

part of it. And that's what we've been able to run strong for the last 10

able to run strong for the last 10 years. Um,

years. Um, oh, one other idea I want to just

oh, one other idea I want to just mention and I think we would need to

mention and I think we would need to research this the possibility would even

research this the possibility would even though the grants a fiveyear and I feel

though the grants a fiveyear and I feel like that's a big commitment on the city

like that's a big commitment on the city and to but to actually in our agreement

and to but to actually in our agreement our agreement to have it a year-to-year

our agreement to have it a year-to-year reup and I I believe based on other

reup and I I believe based on other grants that I've even managed through

grants that I've even managed through the state that fiscal sponsors can

the state that fiscal sponsors can change.

change. Yes. I I actually had a change with with

Yes. I I actually had a change with with um it was the disability fund with the

um it was the disability fund with the state. We were the fiscal sponsor for a

state. We were the fiscal sponsor for a grant and of a partner that our

grant and of a partner that our relationship mutually decided not to end

relationship mutually decided not to end and the state said yes, common practice

and the state said yes, common practice to change fiscal sponsors. So that's

to change fiscal sponsors. So that's that was someone who offered the grant.

that was someone who offered the grant. The grantee from the state told me that.

The grantee from the state told me that. So it it um in a sense we changed the

So it it um in a sense we changed the fiscal sponsor originally for the city

fiscal sponsor originally for the city focus grant with someone else and we

focus grant with someone else and we changed working with with Katie on that

changed working with with Katie on that uh bridges of opportunity. So I again we

uh bridges of opportunity. So I again we would have to research that but my

would have to research that but my thought would be

thought would be if that if the city did feel comfortable

if that if the city did feel comfortable that if the state allows that that we

that if the state allows that that we could kind of research a different

could kind of research a different backbone if that if we came to that that

backbone if that if we came to that that was kind of my thought and some of the

was kind of my thought and some of the agreement down there but again it would

agreement down there but again it would have to be researched.

have to be researched. >> Okay. And to the indirect uh pieces, um

>> Okay. And to the indirect uh pieces, um if the direct cost does get applied for

if the direct cost does get applied for the entire the entirety of the grant, it

the entire the entirety of the grant, it would be around $300,000 coming to the

would be around $300,000 coming to the city for that administrative fee

city for that administrative fee over the course of those five years.

over the course of those five years. >> Okay. So that

>> Okay. So that >> yes,

>> yes, >> mayor, may I ask the um these folks a

>> mayor, may I ask the um these folks a question? And maybe councelor Samson

question? And maybe councelor Samson knows more about this for sure knows

knows more about this for sure knows more about this than I do. So I'm going

more about this than I do. So I'm going to reveal what I don't know here. But um

to reveal what I don't know here. But um is there a reason why you all can't why

is there a reason why you all can't why CTC and uh bridges

CTC and uh bridges >> bridges of opportunity

>> bridges of opportunity >> bridges of opportunity cannot apply with

>> bridges of opportunity cannot apply with for this grant without having the city

for this grant without having the city as a co-licant.

as a co-licant. We could I think the the point system

We could I think the the point system that they give because I I looked at the

that they give because I I looked at the questions they ask um for the backbone

questions they ask um for the backbone we would score very low because of our

we would score very low because of our our experience and and the finances we

our experience and and the finances we have on on hand. Uh even though they

have on on hand. Uh even though they give an advance,

give an advance, you know, we have in the bank like

you know, we have in the bank like $70,000.

$70,000. So there's um it's kind of that fiscal

So there's um it's kind of that fiscal backing that they want to be assured of

backing that they want to be assured of that we would score really low on that.

that we would score really low on that. So, and and our thinking was also as we

So, and and our thinking was also as we looked at Sister Carmen and others, the

looked at Sister Carmen and others, the backbone of being a trying not to create

backbone of being a trying not to create staff, but the support of saying, "Okay,

staff, but the support of saying, "Okay, we're we're we're gaining um

we're we're we're gaining um just the the credibility,

just the the credibility, you know, of saying, okay, we have this

you know, of saying, okay, we have this backing of a backbone with the work that

backing of a backbone with the work that we do." And my thinking is that we would

we do." And my thinking is that we would without creating more work but just kind

without creating more work but just kind of think through the what the city is

of think through the what the city is wanting to do. And so we're we're so

wanting to do. And so we're we're so more closely connected than another

more closely connected than another organization that you're kind of hoping

organization that you're kind of hoping they would align with city council's

they would align with city council's objectives. That was kind of my our

objectives. That was kind of my our thinking too.

thinking too. But yeah, it's a good question

But yeah, it's a good question >> and that's actually it's a great

>> and that's actually it's a great question because that's one of the key

question because that's one of the key components to what we're asking of city

components to what we're asking of city council. it is to be able to complete

council. it is to be able to complete that financial risk assessment that

that financial risk assessment that CDPHE does require for this application.

CDPHE does require for this application. Um, and again, as Andy mentioned, that

Um, and again, as Andy mentioned, that that was a reason for us as a uh or as a

that was a reason for us as a uh or as a group realizing uh we would score pretty

group realizing uh we would score pretty low on that assessment. Um, yeah. So,

low on that assessment. Um, yeah. So, unfortunately, we we were really banking

unfortunately, we we were really banking on public health originally as our

on public health originally as our current fiscal sponsor. um public health

current fiscal sponsor. um public health uh just unfortunately just told us that

uh just unfortunately just told us that they had to drop us as a program due to

they had to drop us as a program due to their own funding insecurities. Um later

their own funding insecurities. Um later for us to find out that they're also

for us to find out that they're also applying for the same grant. So

applying for the same grant. So >> yeah um again we we really hate putting

>> yeah um again we we really hate putting you in this position but we wouldn't be

you in this position but we wouldn't be here if it wasn't if we didn't truly

here if it wasn't if we didn't truly believe in this work and know that we

believe in this work and know that we can make this happen.

can make this happen. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> And we and I totally understand

>> And we and I totally understand what y'all have to decide. So, I'm I

what y'all have to decide. So, I'm I don't want you to feel pressured. I

don't want you to feel pressured. I mean, I kind of believe in this program.

mean, I kind of believe in this program. If we can't get this grant, even if we

If we can't get this grant, even if we even if we had your backbone, it doesn't

even if we had your backbone, it doesn't guarantee we'll get the grant. We're

guarantee we'll get the grant. We're going to continue to look for other

going to continue to look for other funding and other grants to to continue

funding and other grants to to continue the work.

the work. >> Awesome.

>> Awesome. >> Okay. Um, other comments? Um, at least

>> Okay. Um, other comments? Um, at least for for these guys here.

for for these guys here. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> Thank you guys.

>> Thank you guys. >> All right. Thank you.

>> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you all.

>> Thank you all. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> Um,

>> Um, >> great. Um, all right. So, I do think we

>> great. Um, all right. So, I do think we do we'd like to come to some sort of

do we'd like to come to some sort of consensus on where to move forward from

consensus on where to move forward from here. Obviously, you know, this isn't an

here. Obviously, you know, this isn't an easy decision. Lots of considerations to

easy decision. Lots of considerations to weigh. Um,

weigh. Um, would anyone like to bring

would anyone like to bring anything up their opinions, thoughts,

anything up their opinions, thoughts, and where to go from here?

and where to go from here? >> Well, we have to identify more about

>> Well, we have to identify more about this grant, especially if it has federal

this grant, especially if it has federal funds based on the questions I've got,

funds based on the questions I've got, you know, that were answered tonight.

you know, that were answered tonight. I'm going to just tell you if you don't

I'm going to just tell you if you don't have somebody

have somebody if you don't have me do I don't know who

if you don't have me do I don't know who has the knowledge of doing the federal

has the knowledge of doing the federal funds it can get really um you can you

funds it can get really um you can you can get in a lot of trouble not just hey

can get in a lot of trouble not just hey you screwed up so be it. So I that's

you screwed up so be it. So I that's what I I'm trying to figure out in here

what I I'm trying to figure out in here is where are the where are the issues

is where are the where are the issues that you know we need to be aware of.

that you know we need to be aware of. So, um,

So, um, >> well, we could, you know, potentially if

>> well, we could, you know, potentially if we choose to move forward with this, uh,

we choose to move forward with this, uh, we could, and it's tight. I mean,

we could, and it's tight. I mean, obviously, you don't want to like

obviously, you don't want to like >> direct staff, hey, drop everything,

>> direct staff, hey, drop everything, focus on this now, right? That's

focus on this now, right? That's something we have to consider as well.

something we have to consider as well. But if we do with with the timeline,

But if we do with with the timeline, right, if we do direct staff to

right, if we do direct staff to prioritize this, you know, a member of

prioritize this, you know, a member of council can also serve as a part of that

council can also serve as a part of that those discussions, but that's, you know,

those discussions, but that's, you know, you have a you have a job as well. Um,

you have a you have a job as well. Um, and so, um, just to be a part of that

and so, um, just to be a part of that just to make sure we have all everyone

just to make sure we have all everyone in place, uh, that's that's needed, uh,

in place, uh, that's that's needed, uh, to make sure we have we we understand

to make sure we have we we understand all the requirements, whether that's

all the requirements, whether that's federal level or state level, local.

federal level or state level, local. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Um, but we do need to we still need to

Um, but we do need to we still need to we still need a consensus to give

we still need a consensus to give direction. At the end of the day, the

direction. At the end of the day, the council is the decision-m body, right?

council is the decision-m body, right? So, we can give direction whether to

So, we can give direction whether to prioritize or to not prioritize this.

prioritize or to not prioritize this. Um, but we do need um a consensus

Um, but we do need um a consensus ultimately. So, I'm I like I said, I've

ultimately. So, I'm I like I said, I've heard from a couple counselors. I

heard from a couple counselors. I haven't heard from everybody

haven't heard from everybody um on where they're at.

And mayor, if I may um just give council some advice, I do think it's necessary

some advice, I do think it's necessary that council if it does wish to make a

that council if it does wish to make a decision that it

decision that it >> uh you do need to take formal action and

>> uh you do need to take formal action and this isn't on our agenda tonight for

this isn't on our agenda tonight for formal action. But if you I do think you

formal action. But if you I do think you need to take formal action to decide

need to take formal action to decide whether this is a partnership and grant

whether this is a partnership and grant application you want to proceed with

application you want to proceed with which again in the past we've done by

which again in the past we've done by resolution and we I'm you might need to

resolution and we I'm you might need to call a special meeting and we would need

call a special meeting and we would need time again for council to understand

time again for council to understand what the city is applying for and what

what the city is applying for and what would happen if it's awarded. Could

would happen if it's awarded. Could council give direction to explore it

council give direction to explore it further with the group um understand all

further with the group um understand all the requirements and then I think staff

the requirements and then I think staff would communicate back to us on those

would communicate back to us on those updates and where we are to determine if

updates and where we are to determine if that's even needed that step of meeting

that's even needed that step of meeting and having resolution passed

like when we when we do a resolution right we're not that's sort of like

right we're not that's sort of like almost like it is a commitment but is

almost like it is a commitment but is that is that like necess necessary

that is that like necess necessary >> necessary prior to the application

>> necessary prior to the application submission.

submission. >> Say, say that again. That

>> Say, say that again. That >> is a resolution necessary and is it

>> is a resolution necessary and is it necessary prior to the application

necessary prior to the application submission?

submission? >> Once you submit an application, you're

>> Once you submit an application, you're committing the city to follow through if

committing the city to follow through if the grant is awarded. And again, I I I'm

the grant is awarded. And again, I I I'm in a position just as your attorney that

in a position just as your attorney that I don't know what those what you're

I don't know what those what you're going to be required to follow through

going to be required to follow through on. So, I'm uncomfortable with it. But

on. So, I'm uncomfortable with it. But it the resolution would express that we

it the resolution would express that we understand we're applying and that we

understand we're applying and that we are willing to accept um the

are willing to accept um the responsibilities and obligations that

responsibilities and obligations that may be placed on the city if the grant

may be placed on the city if the grant is awarded. It's it's um if in any event

is awarded. It's it's um if in any event I do think a decision by an informed

I do think a decision by an informed decision by council would be needed in a

decision by council would be needed in a public meeting ideally with notice to

public meeting ideally with notice to the public. Um, I'm just I am a little

the public. Um, I'm just I am a little bit concerned about this coming to

bit concerned about this coming to council tonight for a very major

council tonight for a very major commitment with uh no public notice on

commitment with uh no public notice on on whether you want to proceed with a

on whether you want to proceed with a major grant application. That's not to

major grant application. That's not to say that you can't reach consensus on

say that you can't reach consensus on items during um a meeting without an

items during um a meeting without an item on the agenda, but um this would

item on the agenda, but um this would require us to make a legal commitment

require us to make a legal commitment that we are going to follow through if

that we are going to follow through if the grant is awarded. And that's where

the grant is awarded. And that's where we've used a resolution to document that

we've used a resolution to document that in the past. It could have been it could

in the past. It could have been it could be a motion, it could be something else,

be a motion, it could be something else, but um

but um yeah, that's I I I do believe formal

yeah, that's I I I do believe formal action on something of this scope

action on something of this scope commitment is necessary.

commitment is necessary. >> Sorry to interrupt. A special meeting

>> Sorry to interrupt. A special meeting >> needs to be noticed 24 hours in advance,

>> needs to be noticed 24 hours in advance, right?

right? >> Correct.

>> Correct. >> And so

>> don't do it on Halloween. >> The timing seems um untenable.

>> The timing seems um untenable. I mean without us jumping through a lot

I mean without us jumping through a lot of hoops scheduling wise and staff and

of hoops scheduling wise and staff and that's even just assuming right that we

that's even just assuming right that we get the application

get the application you know first thing tomorrow staff

you know first thing tomorrow staff reviews it over the day and then says

reviews it over the day and then says yeah we could probably do it and then we

yeah we could probably do it and then we publicly notice on

publicly notice on >> Thursday

>> Thursday >> Thursday and have a meeting on Friday

>> Thursday and have a meeting on Friday >> on Halloween

>> on Halloween >> on Halloween.

>> on Halloween. >> I'd rather do Saturday.

>> I'd rather do Saturday. will be trick-or-treating

will be trick-or-treating >> to so just to provide my thinking as

>> to so just to provide my thinking as we're going through this. I mean, you

we're going through this. I mean, you know,

know, it this is a great community asset we

it this is a great community asset we have that will continue and this is a

have that will continue and this is a great way to amplify them. It's really

great way to amplify them. It's really unfortunate that

unfortunate that >> um our partners at the county dropped

>> um our partners at the county dropped this, you know, thing that would have

this, you know, thing that would have really helped us as a community

really helped us as a community >> um without any notice or um handoff or

>> um without any notice or um handoff or um partnership.

um partnership. >> Um

but you know, the timing is hard,

the timing is hard, right?

right? >> Right. Um,

>> Right. Um, so I, you know, I I I don't know. I I I

so I, you know, I I I don't know. I I I want us to be able to, especially in

want us to be able to, especially in times like we're in right now, I want us

times like we're in right now, I want us to be able to fill the gaps, right? I

to be able to fill the gaps, right? I know we all feel that way. Um, and but I

know we all feel that way. Um, and but I think we need we need enough time to

think we need we need enough time to work together to do this in the right

work together to do this in the right way cuz I think we're also talking about

way cuz I think we're also talking about some level of substance abuse work,

some level of substance abuse work, right, through the grant. And, you know,

right, through the grant. And, you know, a lot can go wrong with that. And um if

a lot can go wrong with that. And um if we're the backbone, you know, at the end

we're the backbone, you know, at the end of the day, we would take that

of the day, we would take that responsibility really seriously as I

responsibility really seriously as I know the you know applicants would too.

know the you know applicants would too. So

So >> um I did have

>> um I did have >> Yeah, I did have a follow-up question.

>> Yeah, I did have a follow-up question. Would you mind coming up again and I

Would you mind coming up again and I just one one one final time just to

just one one one final time just to clarify and then I think that'll it'll

clarify and then I think that'll it'll give us easier direction for tonight.

give us easier direction for tonight. Um, so if this your this deadline,

Um, so if this your this deadline, right, you this Monday 5:00 p.m.

right, you this Monday 5:00 p.m. deadline that you need for this

deadline that you need for this particular grant. If if we're not able

particular grant. If if we're not able to come in because of the tight

to come in because of the tight turnaround and support you on that,

turnaround and support you on that, if in the future, well, are there other

if in the future, well, are there other grant opportunities where we could

grant opportunities where we could reconsider this with given more time in

reconsider this with given more time in preparation

preparation like in the next I mean it might doesn't

like in the next I mean it might doesn't have to be a year from now or less than

have to be a year from now or less than a year.

a year. >> Yeah, absolutely. I think that's that's

>> Yeah, absolutely. I think that's that's definitely a possibility and and you

definitely a possibility and and you know also I think councelor Barnes I

know also I think councelor Barnes I mean we could we could that be a good

mean we could we could that be a good option that we just ask tomorrow CDP ph

option that we just ask tomorrow CDP ph if there's a given our circumstances we

if there's a given our circumstances we can extend the deadline and give and we

can extend the deadline and give and we could even state a date based on what

could even state a date based on what y'all said if y'all wanted to do that.

y'all said if y'all wanted to do that. >> We actually have what they call a state

>> We actually have what they call a state coach which I meet with regularly. this

coach which I meet with regularly. this is the person who oversees our specific

is the person who oversees our specific grant allocated to our geographic area.

grant allocated to our geographic area. Uh, as soon as I get home tonight,

Uh, as soon as I get home tonight, that's gonna be the first thing I do is

that's gonna be the first thing I do is send send them an email and say, "Hey,

send send them an email and say, "Hey, um, we might need an extension." So, if

um, we might need an extension." So, if that's the case, is that something that

that's the case, is that something that >> we might need an extension anyway,

>> we might need an extension anyway, >> even if y'all didn't I mean, cuz we're

>> even if y'all didn't I mean, cuz we're we're kind of in a in a tight situation

we're kind of in a in a tight situation ourselves.

ourselves. >> So, would that would that be something

>> So, would that would that be something that we could address with y'all if we

that we could address with y'all if we did get an extension from the state?

did get an extension from the state? continue to to have discussions on it.

continue to to have discussions on it. >> I mean, I think it's I'm not I'm not

>> I mean, I think it's I'm not I'm not your business consultant or I think it's

your business consultant or I think it's something that you should consider

something that you should consider regardless is is looking to give

regardless is is looking to give yourself some more more opportunity to

yourself some more more opportunity to find something stable

find something stable >> and consistent. It's because as as

>> and consistent. It's because as as you've as you've heard it is is a it is

you've as you've heard it is is a it is a tight situation for us and it's not

a tight situation for us and it's not something that we're outright saying

something that we're outright saying we're opposed to or against but just

we're opposed to or against but just based off the circumstances at the time

based off the circumstances at the time it doesn't seem like we we we even have

it doesn't seem like we we we even have >> it's even possible for us to support

>> it's even possible for us to support something like this. But that doesn't

something like this. But that doesn't mean that, you know, given more time,

mean that, you know, given more time, given more leeway, given more

given more leeway, given more preparation, um it's that the city would

preparation, um it's that the city would be opposed to down the road,

be opposed to down the road, >> right?

>> right? >> Can I ask can I ask this this a little

>> Can I ask can I ask this this a little bit? Let's say we realize, okay, we're

bit? Let's say we realize, okay, we're just going to put rises of opportunity

just going to put rises of opportunity and we know we score low. One of the

and we know we score low. One of the things they ask for are letters of

things they ask for are letters of recommendation from the city. He says,

recommendation from the city. He says, "Sister Carmen, even though they can't

"Sister Carmen, even though they can't be our backbone, Suzanne Crawford, I'll

be our backbone, Suzanne Crawford, I'll gladly write a letter of recommendation,

gladly write a letter of recommendation, could we have city council write a

could we have city council write a statement that we can put in our

statement that we can put in our application of just the support that you

application of just the support that you have for it's not you're becoming a

have for it's not you're becoming a backbone, but you fully support this

backbone, but you fully support this work and maybe you can speak personally

work and maybe you can speak personally uh about it. I mean, several of you

uh about it. I mean, several of you have. I mean, that would go a long way

have. I mean, that would go a long way too in in that situation because I I

too in in that situation because I I kind of realized this timing and just

kind of realized this timing and just seeing that this not what we came Hail

seeing that this not what we came Hail Mary, you know, past is is not is not

Mary, you know, past is is not is not going to work. So, I I think that's that

going to work. So, I I think that's that would be very beneficial to us in the

would be very beneficial to us in the process.

process. >> Right.

>> Right. Is that I think it's a question for

Is that I think it's a question for staff on time because a letter of

staff on time because a letter of support

support >> would still need to be by Monday if

>> would still need to be by Monday if unless we got an

unless we got an >> Well, right. That's what I was saying.

>> Well, right. That's what I was saying. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> I mean, I don't know if that's that's a

>> I mean, I don't know if that's that's a question for staff on whether or not

question for staff on whether or not they could do a letter of support by

they could do a letter of support by that time frame. I mean, there's some

that time frame. I mean, there's some standard ones that I have for housing,

standard ones that I have for housing, but

but >> yeah, at your direction, we would make

>> yeah, at your direction, we would make that a priority.

that a priority. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> I think so. provided we get the grant

>> I think so. provided we get the grant application

application like as soon as possible, right? Yeah.

like as soon as possible, right? Yeah. So they can see it and so council can

So they can see it and so council can see it and make sure that we understand

see it and make sure that we understand what you're what you're doing.

what you're what you're doing. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's a good point

>> Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's a good point because even to recommend it even if

because even to recommend it even if you're not a backbone to really

you're not a backbone to really understand. Yes, we can do that.

understand. Yes, we can do that. >> Okay. So it sounds like as of now I mean

>> Okay. So it sounds like as of now I mean I think you all should should consider

I think you all should should consider uh that extended of the extension of

uh that extended of the extension of that deadline. I think you should um you

that deadline. I think you should um you know keep us in the loop on you know

know keep us in the loop on you know progress made with that. Okay. And then

progress made with that. Okay. And then um it sounds like this council is

um it sounds like this council is supportive of of of at least a letter of

supportive of of of at least a letter of recommendation that supports your

recommendation that supports your initiative and supports funding and

initiative and supports funding and support for your initiative. But um

support for your initiative. But um outside of that um at this point you

outside of that um at this point you know it's something that you could come

know it's something that you could come back to us at a later date with more

back to us at a later date with more like I said more of a runway so we can

like I said more of a runway so we can prepare for that. I appreciate.

prepare for that. I appreciate. >> Absolutely.

>> Absolutely. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> Thank you all so much for your time

>> Thank you all so much for your time tonight. Seriously, it's been a pleasure

tonight. Seriously, it's been a pleasure to be here and we still have work going

to be here and we still have work going on until June 2026. So, our coalition is

on until June 2026. So, our coalition is still in Lafayette. Um, as a matter of

still in Lafayette. Um, as a matter of fact, I'll be reaching out to to all of

fact, I'll be reaching out to to all of you uh because our youth members want to

you uh because our youth members want to be able to chat about some initiatives.

be able to chat about some initiatives. So, I'll keep you posted on that. But,

So, I'll keep you posted on that. But, thank you so much for your time tonight.

thank you so much for your time tonight. >> Yeah, of course.

>> Yeah, of course. >> Thank you. Thank you.

>> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> Thank you.

>> Okay, >> back to our regularly scheduled program.

>> back to our regularly scheduled program. >> Yeah. Did you have any more

>> Yeah. Did you have any more >> me talking about boards and commissions?

>> me talking about boards and commissions? >> Okay, go ahead.

>> Okay, go ahead. >> Um, no. I just wanted to and I'm maybe

>> Um, no. I just wanted to and I'm maybe councelor Barnes is going to mention

councelor Barnes is going to mention this too, but we had a really successful

this too, but we had a really successful two sessions of talking to the chairs of

two sessions of talking to the chairs of our boards and commission

our boards and commission commissions.

commissions. Um, and um, yeah, I there's more to come

Um, and um, yeah, I there's more to come on that and all that, but I just wanted

on that and all that, but I just wanted to say thank you to staff for making

to say thank you to staff for making that happen. It was a really good couple

that happen. It was a really good couple of sessions. um and just really

of sessions. um and just really appreciate it and I'm I'm excited for

appreciate it and I'm I'm excited for those conversations to keep going and

those conversations to keep going and the things that came out of that in

the things that came out of that in terms of next steps and all that. So

terms of next steps and all that. So just want to say thanks and really

just want to say thanks and really appreciated that that hard work. So

appreciated that that hard work. So thank you.

thank you. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. >> All right, Mayor Proam, um just a quick

>> All right, Mayor Proam, um just a quick update regarding minimum wage. Um

update regarding minimum wage. Um because I know this is part of the

because I know this is part of the consortium of cities. So, Boulder County

consortium of cities. So, Boulder County um commissioners have moved to amend

um commissioners have moved to amend their minimum wage change to a onetime

their minimum wage change to a onetime increase to match the city of Boulders.

increase to match the city of Boulders. Um so that would make their minimum wage

Um so that would make their minimum wage um on January 1, 2026, 1682 and it would

um on January 1, 2026, 1682 and it would be matched to the CPI um thereafter and

be matched to the CPI um thereafter and not going as far as the the increases to

not going as far as the the increases to 2030. So that is now going that was a

2030. So that is now going that was a 2:1 decision um to direct their staff to

2:1 decision um to direct their staff to go ahead and make that change. Um

go ahead and make that change. Um similarly, Longmont City Council is um

similarly, Longmont City Council is um thinks that there would be conversation

thinks that there would be conversation more at a regional level and so they're

more at a regional level and so they're not looking to make any moves in this

not looking to make any moves in this year for 2026. Um but they'd be

year for 2026. Um but they'd be interested depending on what the county

interested depending on what the county does move forward with um to have

does move forward with um to have further conversations. So, just wanted

further conversations. So, just wanted to bring that update to the um city

to bring that update to the um city council. In addition, I've also sent out

council. In addition, I've also sent out the last October board of directors

the last October board of directors information from Dr. Cog. Um we've

information from Dr. Cog. Um we've concluded our in-person meetings, but

concluded our in-person meetings, but we'll have November remote meetings. So,

we'll have November remote meetings. So, that's going on there. Um and I think

that's going on there. Um and I think that's it for tonight. Thank you, Mayor.

that's it for tonight. Thank you, Mayor. >> Awesome. Thank you.

>> Awesome. Thank you. >> Oh, one last thing. Sorry. And I this is

>> Oh, one last thing. Sorry. And I this is Northwest um Northwest 36 Community

Northwest um Northwest 36 Community Solutions. Um I am sending out a

Solutions. Um I am sending out a sponsorship form for the ability to

sponsorship form for the ability to either sponsor a number of community

either sponsor a number of community solutions events or um I know former

solutions events or um I know former counselor Walton had asked if we were

counselor Walton had asked if we were interested in sponsoring a table which

interested in sponsoring a table which is around $1,000 at the legislative

is around $1,000 at the legislative update in January. But there's also the

update in January. But there's also the opportunity of being a platinum sponsor

opportunity of being a platinum sponsor for $4,000. I've sent that out to all of

for $4,000. I've sent that out to all of you and I'll look for bring it back at

you and I'll look for bring it back at the next meeting to see if what people's

the next meeting to see if what people's interest is if at any

interest is if at any well.

well. >> Yes. So that that email has already been

>> Yes. So that that email has already been issued. So please respond to that if you

issued. So please respond to that if you have not um to see what kind of

have not um to see what kind of commitment if any we want to make to

commitment if any we want to make to that um event

>> and then do you mind just resending it to do it right now.

to do it right now. >> Thank you flo up at the top.

>> Thank you flo up at the top. >> Okay. Um, councelor Gyos,

>> Okay. Um, councelor Gyos, >> nothing from me tonight.

>> nothing from me tonight. >> Councelor Barnes.

>> Councelor Barnes. >> Oh, wow.

>> Oh, wow. >> Um, just like that moment of silence for

>> Um, just like that moment of silence for the people of Jamaica and the rest of

the people of Jamaica and the rest of the Caribbean.

the Caribbean. >> Oh,

thank you all. one of the most powerful hurricanes in

one of the most powerful hurricanes in US history. Uh just plowed across or is

US history. Uh just plowed across or is climbing across the Caribbean coming in

climbing across the Caribbean coming in uh to the coast of Jamaica with 175 150

uh to the coast of Jamaica with 175 150 to 175 mph winds for 3 hours

to 175 mph winds for 3 hours uh 50 mi wide. So I'm not sure what the

uh 50 mi wide. So I'm not sure what the impact of that is going to be, but it is

impact of that is going to be, but it is a humanitarian crisis already. So, um,

a humanitarian crisis already. So, um, thank you for noticing that happen and

thank you for noticing that happen and giving some time for that.

giving some time for that. It's an odd transition, but, um,

It's an odd transition, but, um, I'm wearing a shirt about Super Science

I'm wearing a shirt about Super Science Saturday.

Saturday. >> So, I I work with people who

>> So, I I work with people who believe in science. Uh, they've done it

believe in science. Uh, they've done it for their lives and they're continuing

for their lives and they're continuing to provide the support necessary. This

to provide the support necessary. This is one of the groups that hopefully will

is one of the groups that hopefully will make an impact on

make an impact on maybe better warnings. But this is a

maybe better warnings. But this is a free openhouse event. Starts at 10:00

free openhouse event. Starts at 10:00 a.m. goes until 4:00 p.m. and it's at

a.m. goes until 4:00 p.m. and it's at the Encar Mesa Laboratory right up Table

the Encar Mesa Laboratory right up Table Mesa. Just get on table or South Boulder

Mesa. Just get on table or South Boulder Road. Just keep going until it ends.

Road. Just keep going until it ends. You'll be in the parking lot and

You'll be in the parking lot and there'll be lots of activities for the

there'll be lots of activities for the whole family. Uh food, fun, and uh I'll

whole family. Uh food, fun, and uh I'll be there. stuff. Come ask me questions

be there. stuff. Come ask me questions about Lafayette while you're there. Um,

about Lafayette while you're there. Um, and uh,

and uh, you know, we did talk about the the our

you know, we did talk about the the our proclamation tonight recognizing people

proclamation tonight recognizing people who go the extra mile. Uh, our boards

who go the extra mile. Uh, our boards and commissions are going the extra mile

and commissions are going the extra mile and as councelor Freedelland said, it

and as councelor Freedelland said, it was an amazing meeting. Uh, I think it

was an amazing meeting. Uh, I think it was beneficial for not just David and I,

was beneficial for not just David and I, but also for um the chairs of the boards

but also for um the chairs of the boards and I hope our deput deputy director

and I hope our deput deputy director also was really happy to be there

also was really happy to be there because I know it's an awful lot of

because I know it's an awful lot of work. So, thank you so much for for

work. So, thank you so much for for making that happen. And I think what

making that happen. And I think what we're doing with the boards and

we're doing with the boards and commissions uh organizing it will

commissions uh organizing it will daylight a lot of what the process is.

daylight a lot of what the process is. So, more of our residents will be

So, more of our residents will be interested in joining the boards and

interested in joining the boards and commissions and, you know, are looking

commissions and, you know, are looking to provide more input for those boards

to provide more input for those boards and commissions so they can help us with

and commissions so they can help us with what we need. And I think a little bit

what we need. And I think a little bit of that bubbled up tonight. Um, so, uh,

of that bubbled up tonight. Um, so, uh, that's I think that's all. something

that's I think that's all. something will hit me. I know it. But I think

will hit me. I know it. But I think that's all I have right now. Thank you,

that's all I have right now. Thank you, mayor. Of course. Thank you. Um and for

mayor. Of course. Thank you. Um and for me, just a few items. Um so, um as you

me, just a few items. Um so, um as you all know, um there is a um as required

all know, um there is a um as required by our charter, the city council has to

by our charter, the city council has to appoint three members of the council to

appoint three members of the council to conduct uh planning commission

conduct uh planning commission interviews and appoint um this year we

interviews and appoint um this year we have, I believe, two vacancies. still

have, I believe, two vacancies. still appoint two new members uh to the

appoint two new members uh to the planning commission. Um and so I did

planning commission. Um and so I did speak reach out to you all independently

speak reach out to you all independently and I did hear back from counselors uh

and I did hear back from counselors uh uh Tapioga, Freriedeland and Gyos um

uh Tapioga, Freriedeland and Gyos um that they are interested in conducting

that they are interested in conducting these interviews and then to come back

these interviews and then to come back to the full council at a later date uh

to the full council at a later date uh to make um to make their recommendation.

to make um to make their recommendation. Um, so I just want to make sure that

Um, so I just want to make sure that we're okay with those three counselors

we're okay with those three counselors representing us or representing the

representing us or representing the council for these interviews and wanted

council for these interviews and wanted to make sure that there wasn't anyone

to make sure that there wasn't anyone else that was really eager to be

else that was really eager to be involved with this.

involved with this. Okay. All right. So to confirm,

Okay. All right. So to confirm, councelor Papio Vega, councelor uh

councelor Papio Vega, councelor uh Freriedeland and councelor Gyos will be

Freriedeland and councelor Gyos will be conducting those planning commission

conducting those planning commission intervals.

intervals. Great. All right. Um, on to the next

Great. All right. Um, on to the next item. Um so we as you've as you've heard

item. Um so we as you've as you've heard and seen you know folks have come to us

and seen you know folks have come to us on various occasions requesting funding.

on various occasions requesting funding. We had multiple discussions regarding

We had multiple discussions regarding our contingency fund. Um we did allocate

our contingency fund. Um we did allocate originally it was at 50,000. We did

originally it was at 50,000. We did allocate a good chunk of that towards

allocate a good chunk of that towards travel budget for for conferences and

travel budget for for conferences and things like that. However um we do still

things like that. However um we do still have a remaining I believe 20 u 20 20

have a remaining I believe 20 u 20 20 21,000 left um for the year. And so

21,000 left um for the year. And so we've had um a few groups uh that reach

we've had um a few groups uh that reach out to us um um to see if you know we

out to us um um to see if you know we interested in supporting events like as

interested in supporting events like as you mentioned former counselor Walton um

you mentioned former counselor Walton um with with the table requests and um we

with with the table requests and um we did also receive um a request for

did also receive um a request for funding to support um Centurus's Palms

funding to support um Centurus's Palms uh team for their um uh events uh their

uh team for their um uh events uh their competition in Florida this year which

competition in Florida this year which is something we have supported in the

is something we have supported in the past and we have also um um just like

past and we have also um um just like requests ongoing. So I think the the

requests ongoing. So I think the the process that we established was um there

process that we established was um there were certain programs I think like

were certain programs I think like centurus and pipe after prom that we

centurus and pipe after prom that we would be supporting. So those have

would be supporting. So those have already been earmarked. However, the

already been earmarked. However, the rest of it, um, I think the process that

rest of it, um, I think the process that we establish is that we bring it up

we establish is that we bring it up first here as a council member and we

first here as a council member and we give folks time to think about the

give folks time to think about the request and then at our next meeting, we

request and then at our next meeting, we make a decision on if we want to

make a decision on if we want to allocate those funds to that program or

allocate those funds to that program or to that event that we're sponsoring. So,

to that event that we're sponsoring. So, I believe that's the process we

I believe that's the process we established.

established. >> Correct. Yes.

>> Correct. Yes. >> I just want to make sure

>> I just want to make sure >> I don't remember that. I remember

>> I don't remember that. I remember talking about um some criteria for which

talking about um some criteria for which we'd evaluate such as

we'd evaluate such as um we need emergency was one um how many

um we need emergency was one um how many Lafayette residents what's the impact

Lafayette residents what's the impact for Lafayette residents maybe not how

for Lafayette residents maybe not how many but what is the impact overall are

many but what is the impact overall are we serving five people are we serving a

we serving five people are we serving a greater group like is it open to all

greater group like is it open to all >> right

>> right >> um and is it fair

>> um and is it fair >> I remember we said we were going to

>> I remember we said we were going to establish that I think someone was

establish that I think someone was supposed to like we were supposed create

supposed to like we were supposed create like a form or an application in a way

like a form or an application in a way and then or like for the public could

and then or like for the public could fill out to identify that if that

fill out to identify that if that criteria is being met prior to us

criteria is being met prior to us discussing it. But I don't know if that

discussing it. But I don't know if that ever took place. I think what we had

ever took place. I think what we had decided is that and maybe city staff can

decided is that and maybe city staff can weigh in here is we had decided that um

weigh in here is we had decided that um it would be we would give council a

it would be we would give council a heads up so that you were aware and that

heads up so that you were aware and that we could come back.

we could come back. >> That's true.

>> That's true. >> That is true. I do remember.

>> That is true. I do remember. >> Is that okay?

>> Is that okay? >> Yeah. When we looked back at the minute

>> Yeah. When we looked back at the minute notes, it you had a very robust

notes, it you had a very robust conversation. So that is true about all

conversation. So that is true about all of that. And I believe the notes

of that. And I believe the notes reflected that at the end of the day,

reflected that at the end of the day, you were going to follow just kind of a

you were going to follow just kind of a similar process where you each evaluated

similar process where you each evaluated on kind of your own

on kind of your own >> philosophy of what this money should be

>> philosophy of what this money should be used for. Um, and I would like to make a

used for. Um, and I would like to make a small correction if you could repeat the

small correction if you could repeat the number. You said 21,000. That was your

number. You said 21,000. That was your original budget with the plaque and um

original budget with the plaque and um the RMMA attorney. I believe you're down

the RMMA attorney. I believe you're down to I can't read my small handwriting on

to I can't read my small handwriting on your sticky 6,400. 6,400 this year.

your sticky 6,400. 6,400 this year. >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> And does that

>> And does that >> that doesn't did we already do the after

>> that doesn't did we already do the after prompts?

prompts? >> Yes. That that is a separate bucket from

>> Yes. That that is a separate bucket from the 21,000. We did move that out.

the 21,000. We did move that out. >> So 6,400 left um for the rest of the

>> So 6,400 left um for the rest of the year which we're in November now almost.

year which we're in November now almost. So um that has not been dedicated.

So um that has not been dedicated. Okay. And then we do have the

Okay. And then we do have the consideration already on the table for

consideration already on the table for commuting solutions

commuting solutions >> um which was the range for that,000

>> um which was the range for that,000 >> 1,70 for the table at the legislative

>> 1,70 for the table at the legislative breakfast up to like 4,000.

breakfast up to like 4,000. >> So at our next meeting

>> So at our next meeting >> um Mayor Pro Wong is going to bring that

>> um Mayor Pro Wong is going to bring that issue up on whether we want to commit

issue up on whether we want to commit that $1,000. So that could potentially

that $1,000. So that could potentially be

be >> um used.

>> um used. Um, I also wanted to at least for

Um, I also wanted to at least for consideration bring up the student group

consideration bring up the student group that did present to us, which was the

that did present to us, which was the Centaurus Palms team, um, to support

Centaurus Palms team, um, to support their um, their trip to Florida. And

their um, their trip to Florida. And just as a consideration,

just as a consideration, right? And so that's and so I will bring

right? And so that's and so I will bring that request for $1,000 to support them

that request for $1,000 to support them and their trip at our next meeting to

and their trip at our next meeting to give you a heads up. And so that would

give you a heads up. And so that would also give me and the rest of council

also give me and the rest of council time to identify, you know, exactly

time to identify, you know, exactly where that money is going. Um

where that money is going. Um and then

and then the possibility of

the possibility of um

um using some of those remaining funds as

using some of those remaining funds as well um to further establish uh to fully

well um to further establish uh to fully establish our sister city program which

establish our sister city program which I will come back to council as well. And

I will come back to council as well. And and I know you know and this this is

and I know you know and this this is just like this is not going to be an

just like this is not going to be an annual thing. It's just I want to bring

annual thing. It's just I want to bring this up because I feel like um this is

this up because I feel like um this is just for the uh initial process of fully

just for the uh initial process of fully um solidifying our sister city with

um solidifying our sister city with Aikitos Peru, which by the way is voting

Aikitos Peru, which by the way is voting on their resolution on November 4th,

on their resolution on November 4th, their next council meeting to

their next council meeting to officialize. I know we already voted on

officialize. I know we already voted on our end, they're voting on it on their

our end, they're voting on it on their end. Uh and then there is sort of a um

end. Uh and then there is sort of a um official signing ceremony. Um and just

official signing ceremony. Um and just to make sure we have everything prepared

to make sure we have everything prepared and ready for that. Um, I may be coming

and ready for that. Um, I may be coming back to council next week as well. I

back to council next week as well. I know it's a lot, three things in one

know it's a lot, three things in one meeting, but we don't not we do not need

meeting, but we don't not we do not need to support all of these initiatives.

to support all of these initiatives. This is just something I'm giving

This is just something I'm giving council a heads up on so that we can

council a heads up on so that we can look at and bring back. So, I may

look at and bring back. So, I may request

request um or see if council's open to

um or see if council's open to contributing some of those remaining

contributing some of those remaining 6,400 to that establish um establishing

6,400 to that establish um establishing the sister sister E program. Um so that

the sister sister E program. Um so that even with those requests that will still

even with those requests that will still leave us with some remaining contingency

leave us with some remaining contingency as well. Um this could be the first time

as well. Um this could be the first time and and since I've been on council

and and since I've been on council council has used the full contingency.

council has used the full contingency. So I'm not saying I'm just giving you

So I'm not saying I'm just giving you all a heads up that I may be coming back

all a heads up that I may be coming back with those items next.

with those items next. >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Um so for those I think we have uh

>> Um so for those I think we have uh enough information on the first one the

enough information on the first one the community solutions of what that would

community solutions of what that would be. Yes. Will we get additional

be. Yes. Will we get additional information on the other two of what?

information on the other two of what? >> I will send detailed emails

>> I will send detailed emails and phone calls or whatever is needed

and phone calls or whatever is needed over the next couple days.

over the next couple days. >> An email is fine. Thank you.

>> An email is fine. Thank you. >> Okay. I'll I'll come to your house.

>> Okay. I'll I'll come to your house. >> Trick or treat on Friday night.

>> Trick or treat on Friday night. >> Sit on your porch.

>> Sit on your porch. >> Okay. Um and to wrap up tonight, I just

>> Okay. Um and to wrap up tonight, I just wanted to uh make an announcement as

wanted to uh make an announcement as well as as you all have seen or read in

well as as you all have seen or read in the paper or heard. Um, I am not

the paper or heard. Um, I am not pursuing reelection here, um, as mayor

pursuing reelection here, um, as mayor for the city of Lafayette. Um, lots of

for the city of Lafayette. Um, lots of different reasons, but for some reason,

different reasons, but for some reason, a lot of people fail to just call me

a lot of people fail to just call me directly and ask me. I mean, you can

directly and ask me. I mean, you can totally just do that. That's that's a

totally just do that. That's that's a lot easier than speculating and assuming

lot easier than speculating and assuming things. Um, and and and I don't need to

things. Um, and and and I don't need to get too much into it. I still have three

get too much into it. I still have three more meetings left after this, so I'm

more meetings left after this, so I'm happy to um speak more. Um, but it's,

happy to um speak more. Um, but it's, you know, a lot of different reasons

you know, a lot of different reasons factored into that decision. Um, one of

factored into that decision. Um, one of those is my 30th birthday came in August

those is my 30th birthday came in August and I looked back and I was like, "Dang,

and I looked back and I was like, "Dang, I spent my entire 20s at city hall like

I spent my entire 20s at city hall like at night on Tuesdays and stuff and and

at night on Tuesdays and stuff and and so it's just like um those people that

so it's just like um those people that actually know me, people that don't just

actually know me, people that don't just watch these meetings and see me on the

watch these meetings and see me on the dis or watch from home, people that I

dis or watch from home, people that I like get to know me, my actual friends

like get to know me, my actual friends and family, they they know that I'm a

and family, they they know that I'm a very reflective person and very big

very reflective person and very big picture thinker. You know, I I take um I

picture thinker. You know, I I take um I don't take uh I make sure that anytime I

don't take uh I make sure that anytime I am prioritizing something in my life,

am prioritizing something in my life, it's for a big reason and I don't dwell

it's for a big reason and I don't dwell on like little things. I I I look at

on like little things. I I I look at things like, you know, um from that big

things like, you know, um from that big picture lens. And I I've realized, you

picture lens. And I I've realized, you know, there's a lot of things in life

know, there's a lot of things in life that like are more important uh to me

that like are more important uh to me that I want to spend more time on. Uh my

that I want to spend more time on. Uh my friends and family specifically. I also

friends and family specifically. I also realized that, you know, we we talk

realized that, you know, we we talk about like we go to these some folks may

about like we go to these some folks may go to like these no kings marches,

go to like these no kings marches, right? And we see a lot of folks in

right? And we see a lot of folks in politics trying to consolidate power and

politics trying to consolidate power and take it from themselves. And I do feel

take it from themselves. And I do feel like um it's important to give other

like um it's important to give other people the opportunity. Like chances are

people the opportunity. Like chances are one of the people sitting next to me

one of the people sitting next to me tonight will probably be the next mayor

tonight will probably be the next mayor of the city. And I think that's great. I

of the city. And I think that's great. I don't think we should sit there and

don't think we should sit there and interfere or prevent that from

interfere or prevent that from happening. There's no fault in someone

happening. There's no fault in someone sharing the same dream as you and you

sharing the same dream as you and you shouldn't sit there and be an obstacle

shouldn't sit there and be an obstacle in their way. And so, you know, I have I

in their way. And so, you know, I have I have a lot more to say, but I just know

have a lot more to say, but I just know it's primarily on good terms why I'm

it's primarily on good terms why I'm choose making that decision. And it's

choose making that decision. And it's that big picture thinking of what's

that big picture thinking of what's truly important in my life and what, you

truly important in my life and what, you know, what can wait. And so,

know, what can wait. And so, um, I love this job. It's a great job,

um, I love this job. It's a great job, but whoever is the next mayor will

but whoever is the next mayor will quickly realize, you know, it's not an

quickly realize, you know, it's not an easy job. And I'm sure a lot of you

easy job. And I'm sure a lot of you already know that. But regardless, I'm

already know that. But regardless, I'm happy for whoever does fill that

happy for whoever does fill that position. I genuinely am. And I hope

position. I genuinely am. And I hope that you know you I I will do everything

that you know you I I will do everything in my power to make sure you are you are

in my power to make sure you are you are set up for success and that you have all

set up for success and that you have all the information you need and that it is

the information you need and that it is a smooth transition and that we are

a smooth transition and that we are there to support one another in these in

there to support one another in these in these positions and not there to see

these positions and not there to see each other fail.

each other fail. >> Mhm. So with that um meeting adjourn

>> Mhm. So with that um meeting adjourn actually not meeting adjourned I will

actually not meeting adjourned I will actually make a motion now uh to to

actually make a motion now uh to to adjourn to executive session pursuant to

adjourn to executive session pursuant to sections 246-4024B

sections 246-4024B of the Colorado revised statutes for the

of the Colorado revised statutes for the purposes of receiving legal advice from

purposes of receiving legal advice from the city attorney's office on specific

the city attorney's office on specific legal questions regarding the terms and

legal questions regarding the terms and conditions of contracts pertaining to

conditions of contracts pertaining to the operation and use of certain city

the operation and use of certain city facilities. Do I have a second?

facilities. Do I have a second? >> Second.

>> Second. >> All right. Motion and a second. All

>> All right. Motion and a second. All those in favor say I. I. Any opposed?

those in favor say I. I. Any opposed? None opposed. The city council will

None opposed. The city council will adjourn to executive session. It will

adjourn to executive session. It will not return into an open meeting. The

not return into an open meeting. The time is now 8:40 p.m. Church of the

time is now 8:40 p.m. Church of the city.

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