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Lewis Howes: You're 69 Minutes Away From NEVER Being Broke Again | Jay Shetty Podcast | YouTubeToText
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irrelevant of whether you have money or
not. When you are poor, when you're
broke, when you're struggling
financially, it feels really hard to
feel abundant and rich. But in order to
get out of it, it's not feeling worse
about it. It's starting to feel better
about me, better about my values, my
character, my kindness, my generosity,
and seeing how can I add value to
others. How can I get into a richness
inside of me to serve and take care of
me at the same time? The number one
health and wellness podcast, J Shetty. J
Shetty, the one, the only J Shetty.
The world in which we're living today
doesn't seem to distribute wealth in a
way that allows people to access it.
Some people have been set up really
badly. They had poor access to
education. They didn't really know what
jobs were available. People are working
really, really hard and not taking that
much home. People are coming at it from
a place of pain, of desperation, of
stress. So, everyone already knows that
money is stressful. And your first point
here is make money easy. Yes. And so, I
want to ask you, when someone's coming
at money, our relationship with money is
already at a place kind of like finding
love. We're desperate for it. We're
stressed by it. We're paralyzed by it.
We feel the pressure for it. What do you
do when you're feeling all of that?
What's the first thing you need to do?
Step one is you need awareness. And
again, you probably say this so often
and people have probably heard this so
frequently, but if you don't have
awareness on your attachment style
towards money and how your nervous
system is when you receive money or when
money leaves you, when you have to pay
your bills or give money away, I want
people to create just a scenario of
awareness around how you feel and how
you think when you receive money, when
you pay money, when you look at your
bank account, when you open your purse
or your wallet, and Just notice how do I
feel? Do I have shallow breathing? Do I
feel relaxed? Do I feel anxious? Do I
feel scarce? Do I feel abundant? Just
step one is have awareness on how do I
feel and how do I think about my money?
The money I have, the money that's
coming in, and the money that's going
out. Yeah, that's step one. And when you
can just have awareness around it, you
can start to say, is my relationship the
one that I want to be having? Do I feel
really secure around money? If not,
okay, what's something I can think about
first? Let me think about my money
story, the story of my life around
money. We grow up as kids and we watch
our parents in their relationship and we
tend to develop the relationship style
of our parents unless we learn how to
heal as a teenager and have some type of
breakthrough. We're creating some type
of attachment style based on what we see
with our parents. But think about all
the conversations your parents had
around money. And if your parents didn't
have a secure relationship, if they
fought, did they fight about money? Were
you involved in the conversation about
how expensive things were about your
school or sports or programs that they
had to pay for they couldn't afford? Did
they argue? Did they have challenges?
Did they get divorced? Money is one of
the biggest reasons people get divorced.
It's one of the biggest arguments in
marriage as well. So just notice, is my
nervous system, is my body, is my
energy, or my thoughts stressed out
around money? Do I feel scarce or do I
feel abundant? That's kind of step one.
And then step two is understanding your
money story. Because when you can
reflect on your money story, you can see
what your money personality style is
today. And for many years, and we can
talk about both of us thinking about our
past. For many years, I didn't
understand money growing up. We didn't
have a lot growing up. We weren't
completely poor, but I wasn't as, you
know, well off as the other kids in my
class. So, I always felt a little bit
beneath everyone else. And so, my belief
system was around that. I was just a
little bit under everyone else. Everyone
else is doing a little bit better than
us. Sure, we have a home and I'm going
to school, but everyone's got
rollerblades. I'm in sneakers. People
have Nintendo. I don't have one. I'm
reading a book. Whatever it is, it was
like I was a little bit beneath. And
that started to shape my story and my
personality style. So I felt very
insecure around money. And when I got
it, I got really excited, but I didn't
know what to do with it. So I was also
like afraid. I was insecure and I was
just unsure of it. And it really started
to shape my personality style. Now when
I was in my teen years, my dad started
to make more money and started to teach
me a little bit. But I was still like
just I want to be a teenager. I don't
want to think about this stuff. It seems
confusing. I just want to have fun. in
my 20s when I got done playing football.
I I went to go pursue football, got
injured, and I was on my sister's couch
for a year and a half, and I had no
money, and I just felt like, how am I
going to make this work? How am I going
to make money? I don't know what my
skills are. I don't know what my talents
are. This is in 2008 when the economy
was crashing. So, it kind of felt like
it is right now with inflation going up
so much right now and people worried
about money in the future. I didn't
understand and I needed to find money
mentors to start teaching me how to
learn about how I can receive money and
spend it in a more efficient way. And
that was kind of the journey of me
starting to figure this out. But if we
don't have the tools or the money
knowledge, then we're always going to be
stuck in our money story as our money
personality style. And so it's getting
to understand awareness. How does it
feel when I receive money and I spend
money? Yeah. What is the history of the
story around money for me? Did my
parents fight? Did I feel anxious around
money? Uh I used to steal a lot when I
was a kid. So I had like some wounds
around money. I had people steal from me
as well. So I just had all these
different wounds that I had to address
and get clear on. And I had to learn how
to start healing those money wounds. And
again, I know this is the place to come
to create more wholeness, to be
healthier in your life, and to become
more healed. And that's what I want for
people to start to reflect on their
money story. Yeah. Write down some of
these things so you have awareness first
off on why you think and feel the way
you do around money. Yeah. Then you can
start to see how your personality style
towards money now is either helping you
create more abundance or keeping you in
scarcity and lack. And from there we can
start to have some breakthroughs. Yeah.
Let's talk about all three because as
I'm listening to you, I'm thinking that
for most of us, when we get aware, we
actually realize we don't even want to
look at our finances. No. Right. That's
how we all feel because we're so scared
and there's been such a fear built
around money that it's like, I don't
even want to know because I'm so scared.
Now, when I get my paycheck, I'm
thinking, "Oh god, I hope this covers my
rent, my groceries, my bills, whatever
else I've got to cover." And then that
becomes your stress point. And then
you're thinking, "Oh gosh, I haven't got
enough to spend on this thing that I
really wanted to do or I wanted to do
something for my kids or whatever it may
be." So now there's stress. And so I
think for most people when you actually
get awareness, you start realizing it's
stress and it's never enough. And it's
never enough. I'm never making enough.
And also I've got a h 100,000 in student
loan debt. I have this other credit card
because I wanted to go on a trip or I
had a medical expense that would
unexpected that came up. Like so many
people are struggling to be figuring out
how to get out of debt. They have this
weight that's carrying them back, but
they still want to feel like they're
free to live a life of their dreams.
They want to be able to go on a trip
with a friend a few times a year. They
want to go to those expensive concerts.
They want to have fun still, but they're
unfortunately in a lot of debt. So,
there's something that's pulling them
back as they're trying to go forward.
and they feel like there's no way to
break free. They think about the rising
cost of eggs, the inflation, uh how
everything is just constant. You can't
afford a home anymore. All these things
seem impossible to break through. But
people want to feel free, but they don't
feel emotionally free because of all the
baggage they have in their life. And
that's what I want people to start to
feel is how can you feel emotionally
free so that your money can come to you
effortlessly and when it leaves you,
it's not a bad thing. Yeah. And the more
we relax, the more we can receive. And
so if I'm tight and I'm always anxious
or I'm not willing to look at my bank
account because I'm afraid of what's in
there, how are we able to receive more
and spend more freely? And I think for
many years I was able to I learned how
to make money, but I didn't learn how to
spend money. And so I just hoarded it
because I was afraid to go back being
broke on my sister's couch. I didn't
want to go be broke again. So I just
stashed it away into my bank account and
just like, okay, I'm going to just wait
for it to grow so I feel safe. But that
was almost like a prison in a sense
emotionally because I didn't feel free
to spend it. I was still sleeping on
friends couches. I had a million dollars
in the bank and I was sleeping on
friends couches. I was sitting in the
middle seat, the cheapest seat I could
on buses or on planes. And I'd always be
like, "Man, I'm so uncomfortable the
next day. Like, I'm my back hurts. Like,
I'm just I'm not feeling free cuz I was
afraid. I was anxious to lose money."
And that is not emotional freedom. That
is not healing. And I remember thinking
to myself, God, I've got I'm starting to
make money. It was like years into my
business. I was like, I'm financially
free, but I'm still trapped. M what is
holding me back? And I realized a lot of
it was my money story and my money
personality style that I needed to start
working on. And I don't know if it's the
thing that you ever like, I've arrived
and I'm perfect and now I'm like this
Zen master at money. It's a constant
back to awareness. It's a constant
practice of awareness and breaking
through those limitations. Yeah. I think
what I'm thinking about when I'm hearing
you is if me and you went back to a
place in our life where we really didn't
have money. Yes. And you think about
someone who's in that position, who's
listening to us right now, and in their
head they're thinking, "But how do I
become abundant when I don't have where
like my natural thing is like I'm just
struggling to pay my next bill?" And me
and you have both been in those
situations. I remember when I was
growing up, I grew up in a house where
we had just enough. Like that was the
language my parents used. We have just
enough. And my parents would often argue
about money. I remember I wasn't allowed
to buy cool shoes and stuff. I'd have
like the the knockoff cheapest brand
from whatever, which was I actually
didn't have an issue with that. I didn't
have an issue with any of it because we
had food and that was my normality. But
it's really interesting because the
amount of times growing up I started
working when I was 14.
And I think that gave me a really
interesting sense of how hard it was to
make money because I started working at
14. And I used to get paid £2 per street
that I delivered newspapers on. So
imagine there's a 100 houses. It's going
to take me like not per house. No, no,
no. Per street. So I did five streets.
And so I'd get £10 at the end of the
week if I did five streets. And each
street would take me at least an hour,
maybe, I don't know, something like
that. And so I'd walk around, I'd pull
this thing and I'd deliver it. And I got
an understanding of how hard it was to
make money. But then that became a story
for me. Going to your point, making
money is hard. Making money is hard. And
that there's only a certain amount of
money you're allowed to make at this
level. Like you're a 14-year-old. Then I
worked in retail. I stacked shelves at a
grocery store. I worked at a store
called Morrison's, which is like working
at Walmart. And there I remember I got
paid like £5 an hour. And then you get
like time and a half if you work the
weekends and the evenings. All of this
to say that I probably spent my whole
life only seeing zero in my bank account
because everything that would come in
would pay for my phone bill, my car
insurance that I paid for, whatever it
was that I was taking care of. So, I
wasn't relying on my parents apart from
I lived in their home obviously. But I
always felt like money came in, money
went out. And my story around money was
people who have money are doing
something bad. So, I lived in a home.
Whenever we went to a friend's home and
they had a nice home, my family would
always say, "Oh, yeah, but they do dodgy
stuff to make money." All the language
around money was, "People with money are
doing bad stuff." So, in my head, it was
like, "Oh, if you have money, then you
must be doing shady stuff because we
don't have money and we're not doing any
shady, right? You must be hurting people
to make money." Correct. In some way,
exploiting, taking advantage of Yeah.
taking advantage, whatever. So
everything you're saying is so true
because then when I got to a point in my
life where I was just trying to do good
and I had something like 150 200 million
views on content and you had no money. I
was 4 months away from being broke. I
met you at this time. I met you around
this time. I met you this time. Yes. And
it was really interesting to me because
that was the time that I was actually
doing this work, which is why this
book's so powerful because I realized
that I couldn't even with 150 200
million views. It wasn't that that made
money because my story and my
personality style was anxious. I felt
like it was wrong to make money. Like
that's actually what it was. I felt like
making money was bad. And so until I got
to that, did you believe you were worthy
of making more money? I believed I was
worthy, but I believed that you had to
be bad to make money. Wow. So you didn't
want to be bad. You don't want to have a
lot of money and associate I have a lot
of money and I'm now I'm bad. Correct.
I'm bad and wrong and I'm hurting others
in order to help myself. Correct. Cuz
good people are poor. Wow. Right. Like
to be a good person of good character
means to not have money. Wow. And that
was based on a a belief system that you
developed over time.
If you would have
have
a reflection so important people, if
you're stressed, if you're overwhelmed,
if you're anxious, if you're constantly
in drama, that is not abundance. A high
net worth does not mean you are free.
Money is an energy and how we think and
how we feel will dictate the energy we
have towards it. When you have no money,
when you're broke, when you feel
stressed out, overwhelmed, burnt out,
you lost your job, you feel like you
need help and you may need help. And the
best way to create abundance is to go
from helplessness to helpfulness.
So, when you're in that place, taking
your story as well, taking my story, how
do we start to rewrite that story now
that we're aware? Well, it's so powerful
that you said that and I remember this
vividly because I met you on Halloween
2017, right? Yeah. Eight years ago.
Yeah. And we I said like cancel the day,
let's just hang out all day. Yeah. You
had a book coming out that day. I had a
book that came out that day on
Halloween. Yeah. Which is called The
Basking Masculinity. Anyways, how do we
rewire our brain around money to create
more abundance when you have nothing?
When you have lack. How do we rewire our
brain to create abundance when you have
nothing and you don't know how to earn
more money? The first thing I think you
need to be aware of is that your beliefs
dictate your behaviors. So if you
believe that money is bad or people who
make a lot of money are bad and take
advantage of others and therefore me
having lack right now means I'm a good
person and I don't want to become a bad
person. Then that belief is going to
dictate your behaviors and you're going
to stay in lack. You're going to stay in
scarcity and you're going to see
opportunities that only give you just
enough as opposed to opportunities that
could create incredible wealth for
yourself financially, but also an
emotional wealth that you've never had
before. So, that's one of the things you
want to understand is first that your
beliefs dictate your behaviors. That's a
big one, by the way. That's huge. Like
that. I just want to point that out for
people. Like that's so huge because your
belief your belief got you to a place of
I am impacting hundreds of millions of
people from these these videos that I
created with my talents but I don't know
how to make money with them and I don't
know if I actually should because then I
could be bad and wrong or people could
perceive me as I did something bad to
make this money correct and I'm a
spiritual person I'm a monk I've done
all these things I don't want to have
that life but I want to make an impact
and I don't want to be poor. So I think
a lot of people are struggling with that
mindset. What are the other ones you
hear? What are the other focusing on
that belief? What are you hearing from
people about their that's my belief and
that's very much my history and story as
you said. What other stuff do you hear
from people? The biggest shift that will
create abundance in your life is a
mindset habit in unlocking wealth for
yourself. And one of the big lies or one
of the big blocks that holds people back
from financial opportunity is that I I
cannot be generous with my time, my
wisdom, my knowledge or my secrets to
others because if I am, they will take
it and run with it and I will be left
with nothing. So therefore, I'm going to
hoard my energy. I'm going to hoard my
time, my knowledge, and only keep it to
me so that others don't have good ideas
or have my help. And from all the
different billionaires and millionaires
and financial leaders in the world that
I've interviewed, I know you've
interviewed a lot of them, there is a
question I would always ask individuals
who've made incredible amounts of money
and that keeps helping them create more
wealth year after year. And they all say
the same thing, those who have had a
sustainably good heart in the process is
that you have to have a generous
mindset. So the mindset habit is the
first thing that you have to think about
when creating abundance with your money,
but also feeling abundant internally and
it's coming with generosity. So if you
feel like you're stuck right now, if you
feel like you have nothing, this was
what you were at 8 years ago when I met
you. This was where I was at 15 years
ago when I was on my sister's couch. I
had no money. I was in student loan
debt. I was sleeping on her couch. I
didn't think I had any skills. I didn't
have a college degree yet. I was like,
how am I going to make money if I don't
know how to make money and I don't have
any talent or skill and I'm in debt. It
didn't understand it. It felt
impossible. And the thing that I shifted
when I started meeting money mentors is
I needed to learn the first habit which
is the mindset habit which is a habit of
generosity and gratitude. So what did
that look like then? What was the
practical step? What it looks like was
how do I meet money people, people who
have money, people who have success,
people can teach me knowledge. I needed
to come with a sense of energy, of
curiosity, of possibilities, and of joy.
I literally wrote a list down of all
these different things that I thought
were my talents. I go, "How can I make
money? I don't have any skills. I played
football and now I'm injured. What can I
do for people?" But I was like, "Well,
I'm really curious. Maybe I can just ask
people questions." And never did I think
in a million years that I could have a
12-year-old podcast just asking
questions and make millions of dollars a
year. I never thought that was possible.
I was in my early 20s and I was like,
you know what? I've got a lot of energy.
I've got a lot of passion. So, let me
bring passion and energy to other people
and excitement. And that energy was
infectious. And there's a currency
that's tied to that energy of passion,
joy, excitement, curiosity. That
currency may not look like money, but
for those who are older, who have no
more passion, they're burnt out, they're
exhausted, it is the highest form of
currency. They want that. They crave
that energy. They've burnt themselves
out for decades. They want to feel young
again. They want to feel curious again.
They want to feel excited again. And
when you come to someone with that
energy, you are bringing a different
mindset. So the mindset of curiosity,
joy, passion, presence, like just
connecting with someone and asking them
a question is such a valuable currency.
So we have to look into these untapped
skills, talents, currencies inside of us
that are hidden to others but inside of
us they can create magic. Yeah, that's
one of them. Another one is just being
generous with your time, with your
resources, with your ideas and helping
others succeed. I love that because I
didn't even know that then, but I was
doing it unconsciously. Yes, you were.
So, I really wanted to interview
incredible people, but I didn't have a
platform at the time when I met you. And
so, I'd partnered up with NASDAQ. And by
the way, just to be really clear with
everyone, I didn't get paid to do this.
So, NASDAQ had something where
everyone's using Facebook Live and I
said, "Hey, could I have an hour in the
NASDAQ building whenever I have an
amazing guest that says yes, so that I
can interview them on NASDAQ Live?" And
they would put the picture up on the
middle of Time Square on a billboard. So
now I could reach out to people I looked
up to. That's the reason why I went on
the show. Exactly. So I didn't know who
you were until I saw, hey, I can get you
on a billboard on Time Square. I go,
that's value to me right now. I'm being
generous and I'm trying to find a way
because I don't have anything to offer,
but I admire you. And it was all people
I admired. It was yourself. It was Ryan
Holidayiday said yes. Me and Ryan had
met maybe once before that, but Ryan
came on that show. And there were a
bunch of other authors. Deepak Chopra
came on that show with me and it was all
people that I'd admired, looked up to
for a long time and exactly that that's
how first of all we became great friends
off of it. But the point is it's exactly
what you're saying that even though I
felt I had nothing to offer, I had to
find a way to create something to offer
someone of value. I didn't get paid for
it for that show. I didn't get paid to
run it. I didn't make any money from it.
But it created an opportunity for me to
connect with friends, to connect with
people that were doing incredible things
and of course allowed me to showcase my
talents so that then I could show it to
other people. I remember I had Ryan
Harwood on the show who founded Pure Wow
and he just sold it to Gary Vee and
that's how I met Gary. So Ryan came on
my show and he was just like, "Jay, I
love you. You're a great interviewer.
Like you have such great energy." He was
he really liked my passion and he said,
"You got to come meet Gary." And I was
like, "No way. like I love Gary. And so
he took me to meet Gary for the first
time. We had a meeting in his office and
that's how I built my relationship with
him. It was all thanks to Ryan. And so
when you think about it now, like when
I'm I've never thought about it until
what you're saying. Now when I look
back, Ryan's been on the podcast like
four times now, whatever. I love his
books. So many relationships came out of
that. And so I think when you live in a
world of I have nothing to offer and I
don't have anything, it becomes really
hard to create. And most people think
when I have nothing, I need to take from
someone else. Yes, I don't have
anything. So, I can't give anything if I
don't have it. So, I need someone to
give me money right now cuz I'm broke.
I'm poor. I'm stuck. I'm stressed. I'm
anxious. I can't think out of myself.
And this first habit is really gratitude
and generosity is the gateway to
abundance. And it may not mean you're
going to make money right away. We didn't
make you over time. We helped each other
create more abundance together. Not only
financially, which we've done together,
but a type of richness that isn't about
money. And this book again, it's it's a
money book, but it's really like it
doesn't matter how much money you have
if you don't feel like you have a rich
life inside of you. That's real. It does
not matter how much is in your bank
account, how big your net worth is. If
you don't feel like you have an abundant
life, if you're stressed, if you're
overwhelmed, if you're anxious, if
you're constantly in drama, that is not
abundance. A high net worth does not
mean you are free. And the goal is for
us to feel free every moment of our
lives as often as possible and allow
money to be a tool to create incredible
opportunities, memories, moments where
you can be generous with it with the
people you care about, the causes you
care about, the institutions you care
about to serve more people and feel good
about doing it, not feel bad about doing
it. And that's part of this process.
Most people when they lack money, they
want to take from others. They want
someone to help them. And you need to
flip it on its head and say, "How can I
help others?" Even when I have nothing,
that is the time to be more generous and
in more gratitude and say, "Thank you
for this opportunity." Even if you have
to just lie to yourself for a moment and
say, "I'm stuck. I'm on my sister's
couch. I have no money. I'm 4 months. In
4 months, I'm going to be out of an
apartment and I don't know where the
money's coming." Just say, "Thank you,
God. Thank you, Universe, for this
opportunity to learn. Yeah. This
opportunity to grow because I'll never
be here again. I interview I don't know
if you've had Ken Honda on, but he wrote
I know Happy Money had him on. Dude,
he's so cool. I love this approach to
this and he's talking similar style
about how do you just live a rich life
irrelevant of whether you have money or
not? And again, this is what I want
people to get to. When you are poor,
when you're broke, when you're
struggling financially, it feels really
hard to feel abundant and rich. And we
want to start shifting our thoughts, our
emotions, and our energy on, okay, I
know I'm in this financial situation. It
doesn't feel good, but in order to get
out of it, it's not feeling worse about
it. It's starting to feel better about
me, better about my values, my
character, my kindness, my generosity,
and seeing how can I add value to
others. And that's the first thing we
need to be thinking about. How can I get
into a richness inside of me to serve
others and take care of me at the same
time? And one of the practices or these
social experiments or exercises similar
to you that Ken has is that whenever
money comes to him, whether it's a
check, whether it's a Venmo payment,
whatever it might be, he just says thank
you to that money. He looks at that
number. If it's a penny, if it's a
million dollars, if it's your your
normal check you get coming in in the
mail every two weeks, he looks at it and
says, "Thank you." And literally opens
his heart and loves that money that
comes to him. He says, "Thank you. Where
do you want to go? Do you want to go to
my bank account? Do you want to go to my
savings? Do you want to go to
investments? Do you want to go towards
paying off debt? Do you want me to give
you away?" And it might be a weird kind
of like exercise, but I love this
approach to just being mindful of money
when it comes. Say thank you. And then
when you pay bills, when you pay off
debt, say thank you as well. Thank you
for allowing me to pay off this debt.
Thank you for paying my cell phone bill
so I can call my friends and family that
I love. Thank you for the ability to
live a richer life. Yeah. And when we
start to approach money in that way, it
doesn't mean money's going to fall from
the sky and come to us abundantly, but
we're going to start to feel more rich
and abundant internally, which that
energy is what will attract more
opportunities. Those opportunities could
lead to millions. this hostess that came
to you, she brought that thankful
energy, that present energy, that
loving, joyful, curious energy, and it
created an abundance of opportunities
and connection. You've reminded me of
two really amazing things that I love
that I want to throw out because they're
not us, it's about other people. Last
night, I was at a premiere of a new show
coming out on Hulu called Delhi Boys.
Uh, it's a full South Asian cast. I was
really excited to be just at the
premiere and just seeing my friends
like, you know, do this amazing thing.
And it was fascinating because me and
Lily Singh were together. You know,
Lily. And so me and Lily were together
and we're hanging out and this guy said,
"Hey, can I film you for two seconds?"
He was working at the event and I
believe this is what he does on his own.
I I don't know his name, but I'll have
to find it. And he took a quick swipe of
Lily, like one shot, and she was like,
"Oh my god, Jay, you got to do this." He
took a quick side with me. He edited it
on the spot and he created this amazing
reel of the event like and he was just
doing it with quick and he was taking
like two seconds of our time and me and
Lily both turned around and go is this
what you do like how can we work with
you and like you know because it was it
was such a great skill and he was
showcasing his talent. He didn't ask he
didn't charge us. He didn't ask for us
or anything. He showed us his talent and
all of a sudden both of us were like
this. A few months ago I went to a
restaurant that I never been to with
some friends. This wasn't like a fancy
restaurant just you know it was it was a
great restaurant but it wasn't like
fancy or anything like that. The uh lady
who was um
uh hosting she had so much energy and so
much passion. She was like taking our
order but then when we asked her for
recommendation she knew every detail and
like she got three job offers at that
table. Me and my friend and everyone
like what do you do? What do you want to
do? Like let's hire you. Yeah. let's
hire you because we just there was such
an energy and so what you're saying is
so true cuz I'm now looking back at my
own life and thinking about moments
where I've had that visceral reaction to
someone and she was like this is what I
want to do this my dream and one of my
mates was like all right well let's
connect like I you know he he thinks she
could work with him but it was again the
same thing you're saying it was just
energy and passion energy she didn't
have any other she didn't have it didn't
matter about her college resume we had
looked at it doesn't matter what skill
other skills you have if you have
energy, passion and a curiosity to care
about someone, you can go so far in that
potential relationship. Speaking about,
you know, hostess or or waiters or
waitresses, there were studies that
psychologists did around tipping and
waiters. And I don't know the exact
statistic. I know it was over a certain
amount, but I don't know the exact
percentage, but there are three things
that you can do as a waiter to make more
money getting higher tips based on
psychology and these studies. One is
just introducing yourself and saying
your name. My name is Louisis House.
What's your name? Thanks for being here
today. Saying your name creates a deeper
connection. I agree. Making a
recommendation of something you said she
was making recommendations. Oh, you
know, making a recommendation. Hey, I
really recommend this if you're into
this or these are the best two options I
would recommend. Gets you a higher
chance of getting a better tip. And
complimenting the person on their food
choice. I'll have the burger or the
vegan burger. That's a great choice.
Those three things will increase your
ability to earn more tips and it's not
like you had some other skill. You just
created connection with someone and you
were trying to bring that energy to
them. Yeah. And money is an energy and
how we think and how we feel will
dictate the energy we have towards it.
And also you create money through your
energy. And so she had a certain energy
with you and you're like, "Man, this is
amazing." You're recommending it to
millions of people about this person
that you just met for the first time.
It's like you could create so many
opportunities for not only financial
abundance, but spiritual abundance by
bringing generosity, curiosity, energy,
joy, and love to someone's life. And it
doesn't have to take hours. This was 5
minutes of this person's time. She got
three job offers over that night. Yeah.
She could have had a different energy
and said, "Okay, here's your table. Sit
down." And she would have had nothing.
But she could have went to Harvard and
had all these other skills and none of
that would have mattered without the
energy she brought. People who don't
know this story or have forgotten about
it, like Drock and Gary Vee, like that's
their journey, right? Like Drock
basically went up to Gary and was like,
"Hey, I'll just edit videos for you for
free." And now he's been traveling the
world with Gary for the last god knows
how long they've been working together.
Yeah. and he's such a great guy and he's
awesome and it's just but it all came
from that that idea of hey I'm just
going to edit these videos for you and
do this and again going back to what we
said before is like when you have no
money when you're broke when you feel
stressed out overwhelmed burnt out you
lost your job you feel like you need
help and you may need help and the best
way to create abundance is to go from
helplessness to helpfulness so instead
of saying I feel helpless I don't know
what to do you've got how to flip and to
say, "How can I be helpful? How can I
help myself, but by also helping someone
else? How can I shift out of this
negative energy into an energy of
abundance, which is so hard to do when
you have nothing?" I remember for a year
and a half feeling trapped on my
sister's couch with no money, thinking,
"How am I going to do this?" And there's
just got to be a decision where you
say,"I am going to get up and I'm going
to get out of this funk, out of this
energy and choose and decide to bring
energy to someone else without asking
for anything in return." And when you do
that, you'll start to build momentum.
And that's what's going to help you get
to the next level. The biggest trap is
when you feel scarce and you start
making money and you still feel trapped.
When you see everyone else having fun
with money and going on that trip with
their girlfriends or buying that
expensive car to show off to their guy
friendss or getting the nice watches or
having the cool shoes and you thinking,
"Oh, if I could really have money, then
I could have these things that would
make me feel cool or feel better." But
if we can approach life and just be
like, "Man, life is so good with what I
have." That is true wealth. I asked
them, you know, if money walked in and
you were at a party, how would you
respond? And they said, I would run to
the bar. I would not make eye contact. I
would gossip behind their back to other
people there about money. I would look
down at them, but then I would use them
and abuse them because I would really
need money. And I would ghost them
afterwards. And I go and I go, "Wow."
And they were like, "Yeah, I know. It's
really bad." But they were being honest.
So I want people to be honest like what
is your relationship with money? And
just imagine if you were money and
someone treated you that way. I remember
the day after I realized I was 4 months
away from being broke. I must have
emailed a thousand people saying, "I
will do anything. Here are my skills. I
will edit. I will edit videos. I will
consult. I'll run your social media."
Those weren't things I wanted to do with
my life. But I needed to create a
foundation from which I could then
invest that into what I wanted to do.
And actually that year, everything I
made, I invested into starting this
podcast. So everything I made this year
went into launching on purpose because
that's not what I wanted to do. I didn't
want to edit other people's videos. I
didn't want to launch social media
profiles. I didn't want to coach and
consult, but I had those skills. And I
think this is one of the things
sometimes is that we all have skills
that are valuable somewhere. And they
may not be the skills that you want to
do for the rest of your life. Wow. But
this season of life, the season of life.
And I think there's something to be said
for that because we all want to be paid
for what we love doing. But even my life
today, I have there's a lot of things I
have to do. Yes. And there's a lot of
things I love to do. And that's life.
Yeah. And like you said, the seasonal
side of things, like when I was just
getting started making money, this was
in 2008, 2009, 2010. I was using
LinkedIn as a platform and a tool to
meet CEOs, executives, and business
leaders. And I was helping them
originally with their LinkedIn profile
to just saying, "Hey, how can I help you
optimize your profile? I see that it's
missing some things here. I'll do it for
free." And I did this to build
relationships with them. And through
that, they just all wanted to help me
and give back to me. And then eventually
someone said, "Hey, I'll pay you for
this. This is really helpful." Then I
was like, "Oh, I can make money on
LinkedIn. It's not what I wanted to do,
but I had a skill to do it right then."
So I did that for a few years. And once
I had that foundation, I used that money
to launch the school of greatness as
well because I had a couple years of
runway now. And I didn't want to do that
forever, but I did it for the season. I
got skills, I made money, and I created
a sense of freedom for myself to do what
I really wanted to do later. Yeah. What
do you have to say to people who are
saying like you can manifest money? Do
you agree with that idea of It's an
interesting story. I was in New York
last week and I said to myself and I
have a lot of these different exercises
and games in in the book to just give
people as social experiments. I I think
it's really powerful to give yourself
experiment because I think when you
experiment, you allow yourself to explore
explore
possibilities. And when you create an
experiment for yourself, you allow for
the idea of magic to enter your life.
So, I want you to just as you're
watching or listening, I want you to
say, "I allow for magic and abundance to
manifest in my life. I'm going to create
a a possibility that this can happen in
my life, a moment, a synchronicity.
Someone might call me out of the blue.
Someone might hand me money randomly.
I'm going to allow for this moment to
happen and this magic to happen." So, I
said to myself, I want to follow my own
practices, right? And I went to see our
friend Mel Robbins in Boston. And I was
in New York for a few days and I just
said to myself, "Money comes to me
abundantly and freely and it I see it
everywhere." I just said this to myself
every morning when I woke up and when I
went out of the hotel, I said, "Money
comes to me abundantly and freely and I
see it
everywhere." And I'm a magnet for money.
I'm a magnet for money. I just kept
saying this energy. I'm a magnet for
money. I was just playful, this social
experiment. And when I was at Mel's, a
penny dropped on the floor. Someone was
carrying a box and a penny fell. And I
said, "Oh, look. Money comes to me. I
see it everywhere. There's a penny.
Yeah. There's a point to this story. And
I pick it up and I say, "Mel, do you
want this?" And she goes, "No, it's
yours." And I go, "Thank you. I
receive." Because when I relax, I
receive. And I'm a magnet for money.
Even it was a penny. I could notice it.
And I was like, "All right, it came to
me. See, here's a win. Here's a little
win. Let me do this again." The next
day, I go to uh New York City and I'm in
the subway. It's freezing right now in
New York. It's like 15°. And I'm just
saying this to myself in the subway. And
as I get off the subway, I go up the
stairs and it's freaking filthy in the
New York subway, right? And the stairs
are dirty. And I see a penny heads up.
And I thought to myself, "This is
filthy. This is dirty. It's not
valuable. It's not enough money. I don't
need to pick this up." But I was like,
"No, I'm doing this experiment. Money
comes to me abundantly and freely. I'm a
magnet for money and I'm going to
manifest money." Right? And so I see
it's heads up. I pick it up, put in my
pocket, and I just say, "Thank you,
money, for coming to me." The next day,
I put it on my bedside table. I don't
think anything of it. The next day I
wake up and I look at this penny and I
said because I'm doing this experiment
every day. I'm a magnet for money. Money
comes to me abundantly and freely. And I
look at it as a reminder. These two
pennies. Look, this is a reminder that
money came to me. Maybe it's not
thousands of dollars or millions of
dollars. It's not something that's
magically right here, but it's a
reminder that something is
possible. And I flipped over this one p.
Oh, no. I looked at the penny cuz it was
heads up. And I noticed something. I go,
"Oh, that's really interesting." It said
1945 on this penny. That's an
80-year-old penny. And I go, "Huh,
that's unique. I haven't seen a penny
that old in a long time." And I flip it
over and I notice something. And I get
chills thinking about it. I notice it's
a wheat penny. I don't know if you know
what a wheat penny is. No, I don't. So,
a wheat penny looks different than a
normal penny. It's got like two stalks
of wheat on the outside of the penny.
It's this old penny. And I look it up
and I Google
1945 wheat penny value and one just
sold. I I kid you not, I get chills
thinking about it. One just sold. Guess
for how much? I have no idea. $4,000. No
way. Online. One sold for $4,000. Now
it's all based on the condition and all
these different things. Like, who knows?
Maybe it's worth $20. Maybe it's worth
$5,000. Maybe it's worth $100. But the
idea is that there was more value inside
of that penny than what met the eye
originally. Yeah. And the experiment of
let me be open to possibilities for
money to come to me. And what I thought
was two pennies might be
$2,000. And all I had to do was be
willing to look for it. Yeah. Be willing
to pick it up and say, "I receive. Thank
you." If I didn't look for it, if I
didn't set that intention, if I didn't
see the possibilities in front of me, I
may not have received that penny that
could have would be worth thousands. And
it's the same thing in life. We may not
see the opportunity in front of us right
now. We may not reach out to the people
we already know and say, "Hey, this is
what I'm looking to create in my life. I
have these skills. I have these talents.
Is there anything that you need right
now that I can be of service for you
with?" Yeah. And that's for that first
year. How you created multiple six
figures in that first year when you had
nothing was reaching out to hundreds of
people. That was you either setting the
intention, seeing that there might be
possibilities and doing the work to
manifest hundreds of thousands that
first 6 months. So by doing that effort,
setting the intention, by saying I'm
open to possibilities, I'm open to
receiving opportunities that come to me,
but I have to be willing to look for
them. I have to be willing to ask for
them. I have to be willing to put myself
out there and receive and say, "Yes,
thank you. I will do this work." And
that's what I think people need to be
thinking about. Can you manifest
millions? Yes. If you're willing to set
a clear intention, if you're willing to
reach out and say, "Here's what I'm
willing to offer and add value in. I
want to help you achieve these goals.
You're creating more potential to
manifest money." Yeah. I love that Penny
story because I'll tell you a bit about
what what I do and I I do a similar
thing and it comes from my tradition. So
do you have a do you have a money
mantra? Not we don't say something but
there's I'll tell you about it. Yeah. So
there's a so in our tradition there's a
god or a goddess for each aspect of
society. And so there is god as in
there's there's one god but then there's
loads of different gods for different
departments of society. Kind of like you
have a president or a prime minister and
then you have like the cabinet and that
who's the money god. So it's a goddess
called Lakshmi. That's lmi. Yeah.
Laxshmi means wealth or fortune. It's
like luxury almost. Yeah. Like laxmi.
Yeah. Maybe that's where it comes from.
Who knows? But Laxshmi is the goddess of
fortune or the goddess of wealth. And so
you would never ever put your foot on a
goddess. So whenever you're walking the
streets and you see pennies around,
you're never meant to just walk past
them. You're actually meant to pick them
up and put them to your head. So that's
kind of like part of our culture. And so
whenever I'm walking around the streets
of New York or LA, wherever I am or
subways, I do the same thing. I'll
always pick it up. And it's really funny
because someone who's with me will be
like, "What are you doing?" Like, you
know, like why are you doing that? I'm
like because I'm showing respect. I'm
actually showing respect to the goddess
of fortune. So good, man. And so that's
what it is. It's like I'm showing
respect to the goddess of fortune by
picking it up. And usually you give that
money to charity or whatever it may be.
It's not it's not you're trying to keep
on it. You may give it away, whatever.
But the point is you're saying I'm not
disrespecting the goddess of fortune
wherever I see her. That's beautiful.
because I want to have a respectful
relationship with money. I actually
really love practices like that because
I think it goes back to the point you're
making that we have a relationship with
everything. You have a relationship with
your body. You have a relationship with
your mind. You have a relationship with
your partner and you have a relationship
with money. And so speaking to money and
speaking about money is something you
have to do if you want to love that
thing and you want it to love you back.
Right? If you never talk about your
partner and you never talk to your
partner, how are they going to love you
and how are you going to love them?
Imagine you're, you know, Rody for the
next month, you never say thank you.
Yeah. You never look her in the eyes.
You never speak to her. You avoid her
constantly. Imagine like your
relationship's going to suffer. You
know, I'm sure you guys will figure it
out. But imagine that's a lifetime of a
relationship. It cannot survive. And
here's a great question that I want
everyone to ask themselves and another
exercise that I want everyone to think
about right now. Whether you're watching
or listening, I want you to comment on
the YouTube below what opened up for you
during this moment. And I'm going to
give you the exercise, Jay. So imagine
this door
opens and it's a person. And this person
is money. It's the idea of money. It's a
person that walks in, right? Is money.
And could you as an example for people
to imagine this as well? What does that
person look like when they come in? What
would you do? What would you say or not
say? Could you could you share kind of
what that would be like for you? Money.
A person walks in, they are money. They
the representation of your relationship
with money. Yeah. How would you show up
and react? So in our culture, because it
would be Lakshmi walking in, I'll show
you a visual of her afterwards. You
would actually bow down. Like you'd have
that and that's a sign of respect, not a
sign of surrender or subjugation, but a
sign of respect. Like you'd bow. You'd
offer her whatever she wanted. Like
you'd be like, what what do you need?
Like what would you like? What would you
would you like a place to sit? Kind of
like a guest in your home. Like a
generous host. You treat them like a
guest in your home. Yeah. Like what
would you like? Can you can I get you
something to drink? You know, whatever
it may be. Obviously, she's a goddess.
She don't need anything. But the point
is that's how the hospitality would
still be carried through. That's cool.
And then you'd thank her as well. Like
you'd start every connection with a with
a god or a goddess with gratitude. So
there'd be like a a genuine appreciation
and an ability to share how you feel.
Like I think being vulnerable and
saying, "Hey, like it's been really
tough this month. Like I'm really
struggling right now. Like this is what
I'm going through. Like I need your
help." Like a prayer almost interesting
of sorts. That's beautiful. And I asked
I've been asking a lot of people this
and so I love to hear people's responses
and be honest in the the YouTube
comments below of your relationship with
money. I asked someone close to me uh
someone younger probably in their late
20s. I asked them you know if money
walked in and you were at a party how
would you respond? And they said I would
run to the bar. I would not make eye
contact. I would gossip behind their
back to other people there about money.
I would look down at them, but then I
would use them and abuse them because I
would really need money. And I would
ghost them afterwards. And I go and I
go, "Wow." And they were like, "Yeah, I
know. It's really bad." But they were
being honest. So I want people to be
honest. Like what is your relationship
with money? And just imagine that's
crazy. If you were money and someone
treated you that way, if they wouldn't
look at you, they would avoid you. They
speak poorly behind your back. They
would use and abuse you when they wanted
you and then they ghost you when they
didn't want to talk to you. Do you think
money would want to keep showing up in
your life if they were a person? Yeah,
definitely. If they were a person, would
they want to be in your life? Would they
feel this isn't a good relationship for
me? And your show is all about helping
people get healed, healthy, and whole.
And if you want to create a richer, more
abundant life, you have to create a
healthy relationship with money in your
life. And look at it as if this was a
love of my life. Not in a worshshiping
like I worship it no matter what, but
more of like this is like a person that
I love and I want to treat them with
care. I want to be a great host. How can
I show up? And it doesn't mean it's
always going to be perfect, but how can
I show up and be generous, be kind, be
patient, listen, be aware, and be of
service to it. Yeah, I think make a huge
difference. Huge difference. I'm not
saying you haven't had a beautiful
abundant, peaceful life as well with
money, but I would bet to say that
you've also experienced stress and
overwhelm with money for sure more than
having no money. And a lot of people get
blocked because they know that like, oh,
more money, more problems is another
like money lie, right? Or money like
wound that people might have. Like, I
don't want to make more money cuz I see
people who do have money, they're
constantly stressed, they're not
generous with it, they're stingy, they
don't even tip at all. they're even more
stingy with it and they have it. So,
what's the point of having it if they're
not generous? I don't want to be like
that. And there can be money traps or
money wounds when you have money if you
haven't learned how to heal that
relationship. And so, it's learning how
to heal the relationship so that when
you grow your net worth, you also
increase your self-worth inside and feel
peaceful about it. You expand your
nervous system, your container to
receive abundantly. So, it's not scary.
It's not stressful. You can receive more
and you can give more because you know
that the more you relax, the more you
receive. And when you give, it's going
to come back in some way. I struggled
with that. My first six, seven, eight
years of making money. I hoarded money
cuz I was afraid to go broke again. And
it limited me in certain ways and it
made me feel stressful and it made me
feel like people were trying to take
advantage of me and take my money. It
doesn't feel rich having money and
living in scarcity still. There was a
beautiful thing that we'd always repeat
in the monastery. It was like God
doesn't see what you give. God sees what
you hold back. And so there's not this,
you know, because we can sometimes
become egotistical about how much we
give. And it's like you got one hand
behind your back. And that's you just
made that point. It's that it's that
pinch. It's that are you giving where
there's a challenge to give? Because
that's where we're healing. Because you
can get really egotistical like hey if
you were worth a billion and you signed
a million dollar check like I've I know
people that are making 3 million in
interest a day like so you writing a
million dollar check is not the same.
This also applies when you have very
little. So my parents who didn't make a
lot when they were giving um felt like a
lot. It felt like a lot. And so like
what we're saying is that that this
thought of being a giver has to be core
to us. You know, my dad was a lot like
that, too. He had strangers knocking on
the door that somehow convinced him to
to stay with us for like 3 months in the
summer. Uh who were and he just opened
his doors and said yes. Like, okay. And
so he was just like like your parents
like okay, you need a place to stay for
a week, a month, two months, cool, we'll
figure it out. We'll feed you. We'll do
this as long as we feel like you're
doing something good and we're trying to
support you. And I think it's you don't
have to give money to feel rich. Yes.
You can be very generous with your time,
with your resources in other ways, with
your food. It's like you can give in
other ways and create a richness of
life. And that's the key is to feel rich
and abundant and free. And if you feel
that when you start making money, you're
going to continue to feel free. The
biggest trap is when you feel scarce and
you start making money and you still
feel trapped. You still don't feel free.
That is an even greater prison in my
mind that you're living in scarcity when
you have money. I mean, there's so many
people right now that have the pressure
to save money because we've been talking
about making money. Yes. But there's
this pressure to save money. And how do
you find that balance between spending
comfortably if you have the ability
versus like saving for your future or
your family? Like how do you think about
that version? Well, I think when you can
live beneath your means and feel
abundant, you've won. So, when you live
beneath your means and you don't need
extra stuff, you've won. I just watched
um The Count of Monte Cristo the other
night. It's an incredible movie of a guy
who has nothing who was born by, you
know, back in the I don't know 1700s or
something. It's a period piece. He was
born of like a clerk, a guy who makes no
money. And his friend was born of like
some general who had a lot of money or
something. And this poor kid that grew
up friends didn't have anything, but he
had the world. He had no money, no
possessions, but he just approached life
was like, man, but here's a piece of
string. Here's a rock that I can play
with. Like, I can just imagine the
beauty of the world. And he appreciated
everything even though he had no money.
And I think in some ways it's so hard to
look at that when we see Instagram and
Tik Tok where everyone has things.
That's the hard part. Yeah. when you see
everyone else having fun with money and
going on that trip with their
girlfriends or buying that expensive car
to show off to their guy friends or
getting the nice watches or having the
cool shoes and you thinking, "Oh, if I
could really have money, then I could
have these things that would make me
feel cool or feel better." But if we can
approach life and just be like, "Man,
life is so good with what I have." That
is true wealth. That is true abundance
and happiness. And it doesn't mean you
shouldn't strive to create more. If you
want more, if you want to have nice
shoes or a nice watch, cool. You got to
learn how to make money. And you want to
learn how to make money easy, not make
money hard. And that that is a process
in developing these skills, these
talents within you and seeing how you
can monetize those skills. And I'm not
saying don't splurge on certain things
if you want to, but you have to
understand the consequences. If you're
going to splurge on something to have
fun with friends or go on trips and
spend this money that you maybe don't
have, just know there might be a
consequence to that later. If you have
to use a credit card, you have to pay
that debt with interest later. So, just
know there's a cost to splurging or
doing spending when you don't have it.
I'm a big fan of saving and investing so
that you can have freedom in the future
and feel rich continually and not
needing to buy things to feel richer.
Yeah. What about this idea of I want to
make money quick? Like I just want to
make a million dollars in a week. I want
to find that hack that solves my money
problems. Like what's your take on that?
Is that possible? I've got money wounds
and it's because I wanted to make easy
money in my past, not make money easy.
And I don't know anyone that doesn't
want to make easy money. Like our ego
wants it to come to us now and want to
find the quick hack or the the quick
investment that's going to 10x in two
months. Sure, there's always outliers
that figure out a way to do that, but
every time I've tried to do that, I've
lost my money and it's been painful. And
I'm like, "Okay, I think I've learned
that lesson, but here's this new like
quick, easy money opportunity." And
every time I do it again, I'm like,
"What was I thinking?" Yeah. You see
that others act like there's a way to do
it so easy. If you just invest in
crypto, if you just invest in this, if
you just do this thing, you're going to
make quick and easy money. I don't know
anyone who's made hundreds of millions,
millions, or billions who's lived that
way. They might have invested and gone
all in on one business and created
generational wealth. Or maybe they went
all in on investing in one main stock
that ended up 10 or 20xing over time.
But going the quick make easy money way
doesn't usually work and it's painful
lessons you have to live afterwards. So
I don't know. Have you ever made quick
easy money? No. No. I I haven't for
sure. And and I probably made mistakes
when I had a bad relationship with
money. Yeah. I remember my one of my
mentors in like
2013 told me to invest in crypto. And at
the time I thought to myself, it's a
scam. I've only got like I only like at
that time in my life, I probably had
$1,000, right, saved because I'd just
come out. I just started working. I
didn't have the money. So I was thinking
$1,000, what's it going to do? Obviously
I was stupid. I didn't know. That also
wouldn't have been quick. It would have
taken 10 15 years. Yeah. That's the
thing. It's like 12. We could always
look back and say, "Oh, our friend told
us to invest in this thing 10 years
ago." And if I imagine if I did it 10
years Yeah. Just like any stock. If you
invest in it and wait 10 years, it
should go up if the company continues to
do well. I've never made easy money. And
I Well, here's You actually You actually
have made easy money after putting in a
decade plus of work. a decade of
developing skills, of monetizing your
skills, and following the seven habits
we talk about in this book, which is
yeah, you can make easy money now. You
can get paid hundreds of thousands of
dollars to speak for 60 minutes because
you've added so much value in the world
for the past decade plus and even a
decade before that of spiritual practice
before you even learned how to make
money. So, two decades, two decades of
how do I develop skills within me to
serve people, whether it be one-on-one,
1 to 10, 1 to 10,000. How do I develop
those skills to serve and give
generously? You have followed this
mindset perfectly, which is a mindset of
generosity and gratitude. And that's all
you did for essentially the last two
decades. How can I learn how to become a
better human? How can I give generously?
and how can I be appreciative and
grateful for the life that I have? And
you had no money for almost four years
as a monk, but I would bet that you
lived a beautifully rich life. Mhm. You
didn't need the money to feel rich. You
felt provided for. You had nature. You
had community. You were learning. You
got to be on purpose. You got to serve.
And what a beautiful gift to receive.
And you had no money in your bank
account. Mhm. But you were probably one
of the richest people that you knew. And
that is beautiful. Yeah. That is
abundant. Yeah. And that's something
that definitely doesn't change with the
financial change. If I have no money
right now, how can I get to a place
where you were at where I had the
richest, most abundant life? Cuz I was
working on me. I was a giver. I was
generous with my time and my energy and
my resources with every whatever I had.
And then how can I start to earn more
money, make money easy by feeling
effortless internally, expanding my
nervous system so that it can receive
more and feel safe. That is a rich
abundant life. And that's what we're all
really looking for. And me and you both
know people who have hundreds of million
dollars that they've exited companies
and they're not happy. It doesn't mean
having more money equals happiness. You
still have to learn how to heal you and
have a healthy relationship with
yourself and money even when you have
it. When you're looking for a quick fix
and a quick win, the problem is the
speed at which you win is the speed at
which you lose. Yes. Right. So if you
think I'll put money into this now, I'll
make something in a week. Chances are,
like you said, you lose it immediately.
You lose in a day. You lose it in a day.
And the reason that happens is because
you actually don't know why you're
putting your money there. So it goes
back to your first point of awareness.
It goes back to something you call the
mapping habit, the plan. Because what's
going on is you're saying, I want this
to happen now. I want this to happen
immediately. I want this to happen
quickly. So I know zero about this
crypto. I know zero about this property.
I've had friends literally gamble away
their life savings because they heard
all their friends were making money
through crypto. I always when people say
to me, "I've got this much money. What
should I invest in?" I'm like, "What do
you know about? Invest in that. What do
you actually know about?" Like, "What do
you actually have experience, knowledge,
wisdom in because guess what? Because of
that, you'll make money on it because
you actually understand it." Again, it
goes back to the point of respect. If we
don't respect our audience, it doesn't
grow. If you don't respect your
community, it doesn't grow. If you don't
respect your clients, it doesn't grow.
By us saying, "I want to make money, but
I know nothing about this industry," it
means I'm disrespecting the industry.
And sure, there may be one person who
had some lucky story that they tell you
about. But the truth is, most of us are
not going to get there. So, if you have
a little bit of money and you're like,
"Jay, I've only got $100 to invest.
Lewis, I've only got $1,000 to invest."
And you ask me where to put it, put it
in what you know. Put it in yourself if
that's all you know is yourself and your
skills. And I think so many of us are
looking for that ticket, but actually
that investment in yourself will pay so
many dividends. This is this is I'm glad
you said this because a week ago someone
literally asked me if I have $1,000
right now to invest, where should I
invest it? And everyone says, "Put it in
crypto, put it in real estate funds, put
it in all these things." Don't listen to
any of that. When I had no money, there
was two things that I needed to create
more of a currency within me. And that
was courage and confidence. I lacked the courage to develop certain skills. When
courage to develop certain skills. When I had courage to go all in on learning
I had courage to go all in on learning public speaking or learning how to
public speaking or learning how to write, I didn't know those skills. I
write, I didn't know those skills. I actually lacked those skills and I was
actually lacked those skills and I was afraid to be a failure at those things
afraid to be a failure at those things by trying them. But by having the
by trying them. But by having the courage to invest my time and energy in
courage to invest my time and energy in a public speaking class, in a writing
a public speaking class, in a writing coach, I didn't have the skills, but I
coach, I didn't have the skills, but I developed the courage. That courage
developed the courage. That courage created the actions to create
created the actions to create confidence. That confidence created a
confidence. That confidence created a currency within me of belief. That
currency within me of belief. That belief dictated my behaviors to start
belief dictated my behaviors to start charging more, to go out there and ask
charging more, to go out there and ask for more, to put myself out there in
for more, to put myself out there in bigger ways. And so, if you have $1,000
bigger ways. And so, if you have $1,000 or $5,000 right now and you want to
or $5,000 right now and you want to figure out where to invest it, invest it
figure out where to invest it, invest it in courage to learn new skills that will
in courage to learn new skills that will give you confidence. That will be an
give you confidence. That will be an incredible currency that you'll have
incredible currency that you'll have forever. I mean, Lewis, I'm so excited
forever. I mean, Lewis, I'm so excited for people to read this book. It's
for people to read this book. It's honestly I love this conversation
honestly I love this conversation because we're both sitting here as
because we're both sitting here as people who like you said not not
people who like you said not not finished our money journey either. We're
finished our money journey either. We're we're you know I've got so many years
we're you know I've got so many years left to learn so much more. The reason
left to learn so much more. The reason why I empathize with it is I never ever
why I empathize with it is I never ever thought I'd be financially abundant
thought I'd be financially abundant mentally or physically. And I know you
mentally or physically. And I know you feel the same way. I never figure out
feel the same way. I never figure out how to make money. Same. I really
how to make money. Same. I really empathize with everyone who's listening
empathize with everyone who's listening going I'm stuck. I'm trying to figure
going I'm stuck. I'm trying to figure this out. But I really do believe it
this out. But I really do believe it starts with this because this is the
starts with this because this is the work you'll have to do whether you make
work you'll have to do whether you make money tomorrow or in 10 years. And no
money tomorrow or in 10 years. And no matter how much you make, you're still
matter how much you make, you're still going to have to do this work. Yes. In
going to have to do this work. Yes. In this book because even if you find a way
this book because even if you find a way to make money and you become really
to make money and you become really really financially successful, you will
really financially successful, you will never feel free in that financial
never feel free in that financial success without doing this work. And
success without doing this work. And you'll still feel anxious and you'll
you'll still feel anxious and you'll still feel stressed and you'll still
still feel stressed and you'll still feel all of that. Right? I tell a story
feel all of that. Right? I tell a story in the book about I used to live in an
in the book about I used to live in an apartment building here in you know in
apartment building here in you know in LA. It was really sad and there's a lot
LA. It was really sad and there's a lot of wealthy people in this building that
of wealthy people in this building that I lived in. A lot of celebrities and
I lived in. A lot of celebrities and billionaires. I was the poorest person
billionaires. I was the poorest person there which is another another lesson
there which is another another lesson which is to put yourself in rooms where
which is to put yourself in rooms where you can mastermind with people and be
you can mastermind with people and be around proximity of of people who have
around proximity of of people who have more so you can learn from them. But I
more so you can learn from them. But I uh was on a trip and I came back from a
uh was on a trip and I came back from a trip driving back into the the valet of
trip driving back into the the valet of my building and there was a tent in the
my building and there was a tent in the valet like in the driveway and I kind of
valet like in the driveway and I kind of jokingly said to the valet attendant as
jokingly said to the valet attendant as I pulled into the building I said
I pulled into the building I said someone didn't jump did they kind of
someone didn't jump did they kind of like joking and the guy looked at me
like joking and the guy looked at me with like a serious face like yeah it
with like a serious face like yeah it just happened like 30 minutes ago and I
just happened like 30 minutes ago and I was I was like this can't be real. I was
was I was like this can't be real. I was like what? There's billionaires in here.
like what? There's billionaires in here. There's millionaires in here. There's
There's millionaires in here. There's celebrities in here. I was like, why
celebrities in here. I was like, why would anyone in this building take their
would anyone in this building take their own life? And it was kind of like just
own life? And it was kind of like just this shock to me because I learned later
this shock to me because I learned later who this person was. Someone did jump
who this person was. Someone did jump off the building right before I came
off the building right before I came back. And he was worth hundreds of
back. And he was worth hundreds of millions of dollars net worth if you
millions of dollars net worth if you just Googled his name. And I was just
just Googled his name. And I was just thinking, why would someone worth so
thinking, why would someone worth so much money take their life? And I don't
much money take their life? And I don't want to assume what really happened, but
want to assume what really happened, but it doesn't mean having all the money in
it doesn't mean having all the money in the world is going to solve all your
the world is going to solve all your problems, and you're going to feel like
problems, and you're going to feel like you can love and accept yourself, that
you can love and accept yourself, that you have self-worth. So, like you said,
you have self-worth. So, like you said, you may learn how to make a lot of
you may learn how to make a lot of money, but if you haven't learned how to
money, but if you haven't learned how to heal your relationship with you, then
heal your relationship with you, then all the money in the world can't save
all the money in the world can't save your life and can't make you feel rich,
your life and can't make you feel rich, can't make you feel abundant, can't make
can't make you feel abundant, can't make you have beautiful relationships with
you have beautiful relationships with friends, family, colleagues. And that's
friends, family, colleagues. And that's real. The real wealth comes in life when
real. The real wealth comes in life when you have deep meaningful relationships.
you have deep meaningful relationships. And something I want to acknowledge that
And something I want to acknowledge that you do really well is you follow this
you do really well is you follow this first habit, the mindset habit so well,
first habit, the mindset habit so well, which is how can I be generous with my
which is how can I be generous with my time, my energy, my love for friends,
time, my energy, my love for friends, family, colleagues, your community. This
family, colleagues, your community. This community feels it. Everyone listening
community feels it. Everyone listening and watching right now feel your
and watching right now feel your generosity, your giving heart, and your
generosity, your giving heart, and your gratitude for them. Whether it be
gratitude for them. Whether it be individually or collectively, they feel
individually or collectively, they feel it. And most people, they want to make
it. And most people, they want to make more money, but they don't have that
more money, but they don't have that generosity, that grateful spirit, and
generosity, that grateful spirit, and they want the quick fix. They want to
they want the quick fix. They want to make easy money quick, not make money
make easy money quick, not make money easy. And the billionaires that I know
easy. And the billionaires that I know you know, and the millionaires that that
you know, and the millionaires that that we know, we've interviewed, and I'll ask
we know, we've interviewed, and I'll ask them this question. What do you think
them this question. What do you think the key to creating more financial
the key to creating more financial abundance every year after year is for
abundance every year after year is for you? Every billionaire or mega
you? Every billionaire or mega millionaire will say giving more. I make
millionaire will say giving more. I make more when I give more that year. Whether
more when I give more that year. Whether it be giving more to charities, whether
it be giving more to charities, whether it be giving to people in my life,
it be giving to people in my life, whether it be giving back to my
whether it be giving back to my community, giving back to my employees,
community, giving back to my employees, my business, finding ways to give more
my business, finding ways to give more and almost give where it feels a little
and almost give where it feels a little uncomfortable. Like that was that was a
uncomfortable. Like that was that was a big check I just wrote. Oh man, I care
big check I just wrote. Oh man, I care about this cause, this charity. Uh, I
about this cause, this charity. Uh, I feel safe giving this amount, but what
feel safe giving this amount, but what really would make it uncomfortable? Or I
really would make it uncomfortable? Or I go to church every week and I typically
go to church every week and I typically give this, but what would make me feel a
give this, but what would make me feel a little uncomfortable? Most of these
little uncomfortable? Most of these people say the more they give when it's
people say the more they give when it's the most
the most uncomfortable, somehow they just keep
uncomfortable, somehow they just keep earning more. And I'm not saying you
earning more. And I'm not saying you should give all your money away and
should give all your money away and you're going to earn more back. But
you're going to earn more back. But having that mindset of generosity, and
having that mindset of generosity, and you do this very well where you give to
you do this very well where you give to your community, whenever there's some
your community, whenever there's some type of breakdown in the world, you
type of breakdown in the world, you you're one of the first people to say,
you're one of the first people to say, "How can we give? How can we rally the
"How can we give? How can we rally the troops?" You give first. You rally the
troops?" You give first. You rally the troops. Say, "Let's give back." The
troops. Say, "Let's give back." The fires happened. Stuff happened in India
fires happened. Stuff happened in India a couple years ago. Stuff's always
a couple years ago. Stuff's always happening. And you say, "We're going to
happening. And you say, "We're going to give." I don't know if that seems
give." I don't know if that seems something conscious you think about like
something conscious you think about like oh by giving more every year it helps me
oh by giving more every year it helps me make more but also I feel richer and
make more but also I feel richer and when you do that with everyone in your
when you do that with everyone in your life whether you're the hostess and you
life whether you're the hostess and you give curiosity love passion fun
give curiosity love passion fun playfulness you're giving something in
playfulness you're giving something in that moment if you can write a check for
that moment if you can write a check for something that is a cause and you give
something that is a cause and you give it's because you can and you do it
it's because you can and you do it generously it's just going to make you
generously it's just going to make you richer inside and you're creating an
richer inside and you're creating an energy of abundance to attract more. I
energy of abundance to attract more. I think for me it was watching my parents.
think for me it was watching my parents. So for all the other things I said about
So for all the other things I said about just enough and everything, my parents
just enough and everything, my parents always gave in charity. Our home was
always gave in charity. Our home was always a home where everyone was
always a home where everyone was welcome. My mom would happily cook
welcome. My mom would happily cook dinner for everyone even though, you
dinner for everyone even though, you know, we didn't have everything. Yeah.
know, we didn't have everything. Yeah. And so my parents had this generous
And so my parents had this generous heart at the same time. They probably
heart at the same time. They probably felt rich in that generosity. For sure.
felt rich in that generosity. For sure. And they did it when we didn't have a
And they did it when we didn't have a lot. Like my parents now when I realize
lot. Like my parents now when I realize how much my parents made and how much
how much my parents made and how much they gave in charity, the proportions
they gave in charity, the proportions were pretty off. And I think for me, I
were pretty off. And I think for me, I just felt so fortunate and I feel so
just felt so fortunate and I feel so lucky and I feel so grateful that I have
lucky and I feel so grateful that I have been able to find abundance in my life
been able to find abundance in my life that I feel like the only natural
that I feel like the only natural reaction to that has to be to give.
reaction to that has to be to give. Yeah. When I came back to LA with the
Yeah. When I came back to LA with the fires and everything, I was just
fires and everything, I was just grateful to come back to our home. Yeah.
grateful to come back to our home. Yeah. But not everyone I know came back to a
But not everyone I know came back to a home. And so I felt grateful that I had
home. And so I felt grateful that I had a home. And so I was like, okay, what
a home. And so I was like, okay, what can we do? And so I think it comes from
can we do? And so I think it comes from a place of gratitude again. It comes
a place of gratitude again. It comes from a place of seeing my parents be so
from a place of seeing my parents be so generous even though they had nothing to
generous even though they had nothing to give actually. And it ultimately comes
give actually. And it ultimately comes to me because I just feel like there's
to me because I just feel like there's no better use for it in the long run
no better use for it in the long run than that. And I do believe it will come
than that. And I do believe it will come back in its own way. I don't give it
back in its own way. I don't give it because I want it back. I I give it
because I want it back. I I give it because I believe there's a need. But I
because I believe there's a need. But I do deeply believe that it will come back
do deeply believe that it will come back in its own way and it always has. The
in its own way and it always has. The book's called Make Money Easy: Create
book's called Make Money Easy: Create Financial Freedom and Live a Richer
Financial Freedom and Live a Richer Life. Lewis House. Lewis, I'm so
Life. Lewis House. Lewis, I'm so grateful genuinely for this
grateful genuinely for this conversation. It's left me feeling so
conversation. It's left me feeling so rich. I've always felt rich in our
rich. I've always felt rich in our friendship and I'm really glad that you
friendship and I'm really glad that you wrote about it in this way because I
wrote about it in this way because I think there's lots of great money
think there's lots of great money experts out there who are giving really
experts out there who are giving really good sound financial advice. Yeah,
good sound financial advice. Yeah, that's not that's not what this is. And
that's not that's not what this is. And I think we need all of it, but I think
I think we need all of it, but I think this is a deep part because I know for
this is a deep part because I know for me personally, this has been really deep
me personally, this has been really deep work and you put it into a book. And so
work and you put it into a book. And so I'm so grateful that people get to
I'm so grateful that people get to access. Thank you for doing this.
access. Thank you for doing this. Everyone who's been listening or
Everyone who's been listening or watching, read the book, learn the
watching, read the book, learn the habits, tag me and Lewis on Instagram,
habits, tag me and Lewis on Instagram, on Tik Tok. Let me know what's
on Tik Tok. Let me know what's resonating with you, what's connected
resonating with you, what's connected with you. I want to hear your stories. I
with you. I want to hear your stories. I want to hear what skill you invested in.
want to hear what skill you invested in. I want you to turn up at your job. Even
I want you to turn up at your job. Even if you hate it, I want you to turn up to
if you hate it, I want you to turn up to it with all the love that you possibly
it with all the love that you possibly have. See whose mind you blow, who gets
have. See whose mind you blow, who gets impressed by what you're doing.
impressed by what you're doing. Someone's going to be able to shift your
Someone's going to be able to shift your life at some point. And it's going to
life at some point. And it's going to start with you. But just don't
start with you. But just don't underestimate the value of these things
underestimate the value of these things that sound simple and they sound like
that sound simple and they sound like I've got to figure out something more
I've got to figure out something more complex. No, no, no. This is where it
complex. No, no, no. This is where it starts. And this will mean that at the
starts. And this will mean that at the end of it, you'll be happy. So, uh,
end of it, you'll be happy. So, uh, thank you to Lewis. Thank you to each
thank you to Lewis. Thank you to each and every one of you. And yeah, make
and every one of you. And yeah, make money easy. Appreciate it, bro. Make
money easy. Appreciate it, bro. Make money easy. I love you, bro. If you love
money easy. I love you, bro. If you love this episode, you'll love my
this episode, you'll love my conversation with Dr. Joe Dispensza on
conversation with Dr. Joe Dispensza on why stress and overthinking negatively
why stress and overthinking negatively impacts your brain and heart and how to
impacts your brain and heart and how to change your habits that are on
change your habits that are on autopilot. Listen to it right now. How
autopilot. Listen to it right now. How many times do we have to forget until we
many times do we have to forget until we stop forgetting and start remembering?
stop forgetting and start remembering? That's the moment of change. No one
That's the moment of change. No one cares how many times you fell off the
cares how many times you fell off the bicycle. If you ride the bicycle now you
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