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good evening ladies and gentlemen how you
you
feeling yeah good excellent now I'm
going to presume seeing as there's not a
clicker here waiting for me that
someone's going to press next slide
every time I call for that yeah
fantastic okay so ladies and gentlemen
the subject of the talk today being
black history as the Lost pages of human
history actually the quote itself comes
from the great Pana africanist historian
Dr John Henrik Clark who spoke about
black history in this way and looked at
the way in which the history of people
of African descent and of Africa itself
had to be functionally distorted to
justify trans ANC slavery and
colonialism in a way that we kind of
can't fully comprehend or understand
today if we think about a time just over
100 years ago when African human beings
were literally kept in zoos in London in
New York in Paris that gives us a sense
of the strength of colonial propaganda
and How Deeply it had taken root in this
society and others to the point it was
actually argued by hard science by
people considered themselves serious
academics that black people were more
closely related to monkeys than to other
human beings but what we know just as we
can see today that uh dishonest
scholarship can be a tool for profitable
foreign policy so is the case in the
past I think a lot of the time we're led
to believe that people actually believed
the propaganda of the time those
Scholars we're talking about when we
know just as we can see today people
have more knowledge about what's going
on in some country in Africa or Asia
that we might be preparing to go to war
with so did they know more back then
than we're led to believe there was no
magical time when people who really had
knowledge about the world didn't know
what was really going on on the ground
history was distorted deliberately in
particular ways and that Legacy is still
with us in many ways to the point that
even for someone like me who I'd like to
feel lots of my followers are socially
engaged know about the world when I post
pictures I was in Zimbabwe a couple of
weeks ago this just gives you an example
when I post pictures of the capital city
of Zimbabwe Harari and they've got
skyscrapers and nice hotels and the
beautiful jackar rander trees if you've
ever been to Harari you'll know this
nice restaurants people are like wow
they've got skyscrapers in Africa I
don't know if people think people in
Africa still live in mud Huts I don't if
people believe as you're going to see
over the next half an hour there was
ever a time when everyone in Africa
lived in mud Huts but the strength of
propaganda even for people of African
origin is still with us to that point
that we have this thing called Black
History Month now for those who don't
know the idea for Black History Month uh
was invented or came up with by an
African-American scholar called car G
Woodson he wrote a book called The
miseducation of the Negro which looked
at the way in which African-Americans
had to be functionally miseducated for
transatlantic slavery and then the
subsequent Jim Crow pared to function in
America but I would take what Woodson
was saying although I agree with him one
step further and I would say that for
racism to function in human society full
stop everyone has to be functionally
miseducated about the human story and no
part of the human story in my view has
been more distorted than the history of
the African continent and then its
descendants so I'm going to try and
share in half an hour uh tens of
thousands of years of history with you
very quickly some of the snapshots of
what we should be teaching because if
we're not careful what happens is Black
History Month comes around and we do
exactly what it was not supposed to be
intended to do we subtly reinforced the
idea which was argued by serious
historians at one point that Africa has
no history by teaching transatlantic
slavery and Martin Lu for King and with
the greatest of respect to Dr King Brave
and and courageous as he was I'm fairly
sure if he was alive today he would go
spare at the idea that he was the sum
total of black people's contribution to
the human story so it's important that
we look at what we should be teaching
during this month to correct some of
these misconceptions because people
cannot be blamed for their ignorance if
they are genuine ignorant people can be
blamed if they've had a different set of
information and still choose to remain
ignorant so can I go on to the first slide
please this is where I've chosen to
start the story we could have started
the story anthropologists are still
telling us that the oldest human remains
ever found are in Africa that we are all
common ancestors of the Ethiopian epicus
called Lucy or Dinesh but I've chosen to
start the story here for those who don't
know the Sahara was not always a desert
so it expands and contracts my basic
geological understanding as the rains
migrated South the Sahara expanded when
those tropical rains migrate back North
the Sahara contracts over thousands of
years this process goes so across the
Sahara all across North Africa we find
some of the oldest uh kavar in human
history pictures like this all across
North Africa next slide
please we also find many many examples
of this this is an astronomical
observatory in this case arguably the
oldest astronomical observatory in the
history of humanity uh scholars believe
it somewhere between 7,000 and 9,000 BC
so possibly as old as 11,000 years ago
two American physicists called Thomas
broy and Robert buval wrote a fantastic
book called black Genesis looking at the
relationship between this astronomical
Observatory and the evolution of the
ancient Egyptian religion and subsequent
civilization next slide please which
brings us on to the first point of
contention in ancient African history
can you see here for anyone who didn't
see this film and I did see this film
I'm not in the habit of watching
propaganda that Hollywood is trying to
convince us that in ancient Northeast
Africa Anglo-Saxons were the ruling
Elite people that look like Christian
Bale now for anyone who saw the film
which I didn't but people told me in
this film all the slaves and the
servants were black now for anyone who
understands the way film and TV works
that doesn't happen by accident there's
a thing called a casting agent and a
cting agent decides who's going to get
what roles so some casting agents said
the ruling Elite in ancient Egypt are
all going to be white and the slaves and
the servants are all going to be black
we're going to project apartheid South
Africa back 5,000 years into North
African history how accurate is this
picture of ancient Egypt let's see next slide
slide
please follow a little more National
Geographic Channel this image here of
King to I don't know why we need a
scientific reconstruction of King to we
have copious amounts of carvings and
paintings of King Tuck from his actual
life but apparently this is a French
reconstruction based on his skull this
is apparently what King Tut looked like
we're going to see how inaccurate that
is in a minute on the other cover this
was an article that came out a couple of
years ago called Black Pharaohs
conquerors of ancient Egypt and
essentially what the article said which
is the revised new propagandistic
position in relation to ancient
Northeast Africa AKA ancient Egypt that
Black Pharaohs came into ancient Egypt
right at the end of the civilization in
the 25th Dynasty and they conquered
Egypt and because of racism no one's
ever told their storytel now but guess
what we're here to tell you that in the
25th Dynasty 3,000 after the founding of
ancient Egypt black people finally got
involved in the game and the only people
that believe different are crazy
Afrocentric black people trying to make
themselves feel better this is almost
exactly what the article says even
though I'm of course being sarcastic
let's again see how accurate that is
next slide
please now this is the British
reconstruction of Tuton Kon based on the
same skull can you see that if the
French and the British were both using
scientific techniques how come the
British scientists came up with this and
the French ones came up with one that
looks French next slide please but again
there's no need this is Tuton Kon in his
own life we've got to make up our mind
was he jet black or was he
red now if you know much about ancient
Egyptian art or even ancient Nubian art
you will know that red was a symbolic
color I don't know what it meant and we
don't know what it meant but all
throughout ancient Northeast African
history even among the ibos in Nigeria
you find in their art men painted red
women painted yellow I've seen this in
Nubian temples no one's arguing that
meant the Nubians were red of course
there are Africans like Somalians and
errans that have a dark red complexion
they're just as African as anyone from
Nigeria but two and common clearly
couldn't have been both red and black so
we need to figure out which one he was
next slide
please now no one disputes these
invasions okay when we talk about who
the ancient Egyptians were there's
consensus that Egypt has been invaded
over half a dozen times I haven't even
included in this list the ottoman
Invasion I haven't included the French
or the British Invasion all came after
this but there are invasion in the 7th
Century of the Common Era then the
vandals which is where the word
vandalism came from because they was a
bit mad uh to use the technical
term uh they that came in the fifth
century they are Germanic German people
then the whole of North Africa not just
Egypt was a Roman province before that
Greek before that Persian in 525 BC at
the most conservative estimate ancient
Egyptian history fonic kingship begins
in 3,100 BC I say most conservative
because I don't actually agree with that
chronology cuz my teacher Robin Walker
big shout out to the OG taught me that
there's reasons to disagree with that
chronology but nonetheless if we go with
the most conservative estimate can we
see that the Persians still got to Egypt
2 and a half thousand years after the
founding of ancient Egyptian kingship so
who was living in Northeast Africa prior
to all of these invasions from people
that are not from Africa well let's see
the ancient Greeks saw the ancient
Egyptians for themsel they were in Egypt
during the Persian Invasion and of
course then when they ruled Egypt for a
little while let's see what some of them
had to say next slide
please theodoras of Sicily General
histories book 3 30 BC now the
Ethiopians for those who don't know
Ethiopian literally means of the burnt
face it wasn't an insulting term it was
a generic term for black person yeah
back in the day and it referred to
generally all of Africa and even the
Greeks use it to refer to parts of India
if you go to India today and Southern
India you'll find people some people as
black as any people in Africa so it
shouldn't surprise you if that term was
used it was a generic term meaning black
now the Ethiopians as hisor relate with
the first of all men the proofs of this
statement they say are manifest they
also say the Egyptians are colonists
sent out by the Ethiopians now can you
see we're told modern science discovered
that Africans were the first people on
the planet but here is an ancient Greek
historian saying that Africans were
already saying we were the first people
on the planet in 30 BC Herodotus the
father of history there can be no doubt
but that the cians are an Egyptian race
before I heard any mention of the fact
from others I'd remarked it myself my
own conjectures were founded on the fact
that they are black skinned and have
woolly hair afro yeah the cins by the
way are a group of people in southern
Russia at the time whole host of other
Greek Scholars including Aristotle and
there's loads more I could have put
seemed very unconfused about the ancient
Egyptians ethnicity we can't have it
both ways even the ancient Greeks were
one of the most intelligent civilized
people ever or they were so stupid they
couldn't recognize the colors of people
they saw for their own eyes but we can't
slide now here are some uh egyptologists
it's important for us to understand the
way early egyptology evolved when the
French came to Egypt and colonized Egypt
it was in the height of transatlantic
slavery late 1700s Napoleonic expedition
to Egypt the Sphinx the pyramids all of
these things are newly rediscovered and
immediately the French are like uh oh
we've got a bit of a problem here
because we have an Economy based on the
pseudo pseudo scientific idea of racism
based on the idea that some races namely
the white race an invention is superior
to other races particularly the black
and the discovery of an ancient African
civilization thousands of years before
there was anything of comparable stature
in France or England not an insult just
a fact of history created some problems
now some Scholars immediately reacted to
this by saying okay well clearly racism
is nonsense hoay we can do away with
such a stupid idea of course foreign
policy realized this wasn't terribly
convenient if your economy depends on
racialized slavery so even though some H
honest Scholars came out and told the
truth many scholars went against this
and you're going to see how ridiculous
some of the explanations got so CF vley
a man who wrote a fantastic book called
The Ruins of Empires had the foll to say
he made many other comments direct
comments about the ethnicity of the
ancient Egyptians this is one particular
comment one of my favorite he said there
are a people now forgotten discovered
While others were yet barbarians the
elements of the Arts and Sciences a race
of men not of course like most sexist
men he used men but he meant All Humans
um cuz we just normalize that kind of
language men to represent all of
humanity now reject from society for
their Sable skin and frizzled hair
founded on the study of the laws of
nature those civil and religious systems
which still govern the universe champon
not the main champon but the brother of
franois champon had the following to say
I'm not going to read it all but if you
look closely he says that V is basically
chatting rubbish there's no way the
ancient Egyptians could have been black
but let's get to the end and this is how
funny it is listen to this part VY
invokes that of Herodotus who recalls
that the cians had black skin and Woolly
hair yet these two physical qualities
black skin and afro hair do not suffice
to characterize the Negro race and
vonn's conclusion as to the Negro origin
of the Egyptians is evidently forced and
inadmissible now he didn't offer any
evidence all he said was having black
skin and Woolly hair doesn't make you
black and if we go back into the racial
science of the day you will understand
that it was actually argued by Otherwise
intelligent people that there were two
races of black people there were Negroes
and there were hamites hamites were any
Africans that didn't look absolutely
stereotypically what we think of West
African people to supposedly look like
anyone that has a slightly thin nose or
any kind of straight hair or any
features randomly that we decide was a
hamite and hamites were responsible for
all of the civilization in Africa and
they descended from Europeans Negroes on
the other hand they were the real black
people and even when we find evidence of
negroes we'll just say they were hamites
as you have here this is how silly and
how ridiculous ideas pseudo scientific
ideas like race make otherwise
intelligent people behave next slide please
again two early egyptologists saying
very much the same thing Egyptian
civilization is not Asiatic but African
in origin of negro origin however
paradoxical this may seem we are not
accustomed in fact to endow the black or
related races with too much intelligence
so Professor ABI AMU straight away hit
on what the issue was Fran shampon the
Founding Father of egyptology the man
who decoded the Rosetta Stone what did
he have to cuz apparently according to
National Geographic the only people that
think the ancient Egyptians were black
were crazy Afrocentric black people but
let's see the Egyptians belong to a race
quite similar to the kenis I hope I'm
pronouncing that correctly or barbarus
present inhabit inhabitants of nuia
Sudan in the present cops of Egypt we do
not find any of the characteristic
features of the ancient Egyptian
population the cops are the result of
crossbreeding seems normal when a
country gets invaded there's inter
breeding the people that live in America
today today are not representative of
the ancient indigenous Americans for the
most part even though those people still
live there the average citizen of New
York does not look like the average
American 500 years ago with all the
nations that successively dominated
Egypt I.E the Greeks and Romans it is
wrong to seek in them the principal
features of the old race and I could go
on ad infintium of egyptologist after
egyptologist who even if they felt
compelled to racially abuse the ancient
Egyptians which many of them did some of
the art historians talk about how can
you ever say their Carvins are nice when
they're so obviously negro many of them
scores of them were like well obviously
they were black that's why they were
uncivilized so egyptologists were
presented with this real problem either
ancient Egypt was civilized and European
or un civilized and African and very few
of them acknowledged that it was both
highly civilized highly technically
Advanced and also African but a few of
them did next slide
please this is the first pharaoh of
ancient Egypt the man who United the two
lands he came from what we call Upper
Egypt now to understand Upper Egypt
Upper Egypt is Lower Egypt to us
Upper Egypt is the portion of Egypt
closest to Sudan not closest to the
Mediterranean and the early kings of
Egypt came from this region of Egypt
this is Nama menz carrying that
stereotypical negro face that we were
told in Old pseudo science made a person
inherently inferior next slide
please 2,000 years later in the Tomb of
rames II is this this is reproduced by
two European egyptologists whose names
are at the bottom and this is what we
call today the portrait of the races
this is how the the ancient Egyptians in
1200 BC so 2,000 years later than the
founding of their Kingdom saw the
different groups of the world according
to the hieroglyphics figure a is the
ancient Egyptians as they saw themselves
can you see it goes right along with
what the early egyptologists fought it
goes right along with what the ancient
Greeks fought no one needs to be
confused about what they look like and
in fact it looks a lot like the picture
of Tut and common we just saw so that's
how they saw themselves they didn't seem
to be particularly confused about their
ethnicity figure B is Indo-European
people figure C is other blacks of
Africa presuma the Nubians who were the
main people that uh the ancient
Egyptians had as Rivals I don't want to
give you the impression that there was
this magical time in black African
history where all black people just got
along and bog and San Kumbaya together
that isn't how things go in real history
right cuz what some pseudo egyptologist
have tried to do is said but the
Egyptians fought the Nubian so they
couldn't have been
black okay so what all black people have
just always got along then apparently
okay uh figure D is Semitic people uh
people in the Middle East now can you
see that the the only difference between
figure a and figure C is one of swagger
figure a has three stripes and figure C
has two other than that there're exactly
the same next slide
please now what you'll notice a lot with
ancient Egyptian carvings and I don't
believe it's quite ever got to the
bottom of who was behind this all but we
have to understand this in context the
Sphinx has no nose on it and the Sphinx
has a very stereotypical negro face we
have to understand the level of hatred
that was being dealt with when early
egyptology evolved and we start seeing
all these Granite statues that are
otherwise perfect now Granite is a very
tough substance but their noses are just
missing and no one wants to explain why
the noses went missing but viewed in the
context of the time and the offense that
the idea that Negroes could have created
such a magnificent ancient civilization
would have caused it seems fairly clear
where some of this uh malicious behavior
could have easily come from next slide
please we just see loads of ancient
Egyptian statues they just ran into the
wall and then those just came off next
slide please can you see a lot marasa
brein think that Ras invented dreadlocks
here is a gentleman clearly with
dreadlocks a few thousand years before
uh the Common Era next slide please more
noses missing next slide please more
noses missing next slide thankfully not
all of the noses are missing these are
some heads from tanite can you see more
dreadlocks these are not the ones that
often get displayed in museums often
what's displayed in museums can be the
most or what is perceived to be the most
European looking uh ancient Egyptian
Carvin so you'll see nefatiti everywhere
but we know nef's Dad wasn't AFC it's
not surprising neph was light-skinned
and she looked a certain way if you
don't know that history someone's going
to say to you this is nepti she's
representative of what all the ancient
Egyptians look like can you say how You'
be confused next slide please and of
course let me be clear that's not me
saying the ancient Egyptian population
was in no way mixed that would also be
ridiculous ancient Egypt was a mega
civilization like any civilization it
would have attracted immigration it
attracted uh invasions several times in
its history I'm not saying every single
ancient Egyptian had totally jet black
skin cuz there's no way for me to know
that what I'm I'm saying is they
definitely didn't look like Christian B
this is the Pharaoh Doza next slide
please this is the Pharaoh kufu this is
the gentleman For Whom the Great Pyramid
was commissioned again just look at his
face for yourself make your own decision
on what you think he's likely to have
looked like based on the evidence of
people that carved him in his own time
next slide
please and the issue here is really the
human story in the enlightenment the
idea that Europe had basically been
responsible for everything POS positive
in the entire human story as ridiculous
as that may seem to us now living in the
21st century with the return of Chinese
power with the Indian Mission to Mars
with all of these things that are going
on and it's clear how much the world is
changing before us it should be fairly
obvious to anyone with half a brain that
no one group of humans is responsible
for everything wonderful that's ever
happened all of scientific progress or
all philosophy but 100 years ago 150
years ago that was considered a hard
scientific idea considered so normal
that very few people even question that
and those European scholars which did
question it I could name some of them
probably no one in this room's heard of
them have you ever heard of a man called
Gerald Massie he spent 36 years of his
life writing a companion to Darwin's
theory of evolution working-class white
Englishman who taught himself to read
brilliant uh scholar spent 36 years of
his life writing a companion that tried
to prove that not only is Humanity
evolved Out of Africa physically but
also culturally spiritually
philosophically he literally wrote six
volumes I have them on my shelves like
that even though he was an Englishman
the only people today that read or
publish his books are crazy Afrocentric
black people so it's very funny I'm
going to continue with that so the human
story is um the human story is not the
Monopoly of one particular group of
people and even though the ancient
Greeks this has been one of the
controversial eras uh areas a scholar
called Martin BAU from Cambridge wrote a
book called Black aena in the 80s which
received a lot of attention a lot of
criticism uh a fur around the book
partly because he was a Cambridge
educated scholar partly because of who
his family were his granddad was an
egyptologist but nonetheless he might he
might some people might feel that he
over stated the case of Egypt's
influence on Greece but the Greeks
themselves said yeah some of us went to
study in Egypt no big deal as you can
see here and thus Egypt was the Cradle
of the mathematical Arts can you see
coming from Aristotle that's a big
compliment there's another quote from
Aristotle I'll paraphrase but he's
basically insulting the ancient Egyptian
priests because they wouldn't give him
all of their secrets he's acknowledging
they had knowledge they would not share
with him and he insults them for it not
something we look at today they had a
value for pi of 3.16 which with no
calculators thousands of years is pretty
impressive I must point out that value
is on a Papyrus read that we know is a
child's school textbook so we don't know
whether or not they got a more accurate
figure for pi but we know that a high
school student could work out pi to
hundredths of a decimal place the so
called Pythagorean Theorum 365 day
calendar based on astronomical
observation they also had another
calendar which took account of the leap
year but it didn't do it in the way we
do it it basically let the leap year run
alongside they understood that the year
was 365 and quarter days long and they
just let the quarter days add up until
it came back round I think it's 1460
years till it would come back round and
the years would link up again and they
had a big Festival um they understood
the concept of the month and the Zodiac
based on groupings of stars they
pioneered heliocentric theory and the
concept of the atom not according to a
Cara but according to Isaac Newton so if
you got beef take up the beef with Isaac
Newton they knew of the planets Mercury
Venus Mars Saturn and Jupiter calculated
and predicted lunar eclipses medical
specialization back then in including if
you put into your internet search a word
called peset which is spelled exactly as
it sounds you will see that there was a
government position called the chief of
female Physicians one of the fascinating
things about ancient Egypt was the role
women played in the society I'm not
going to come and pretend to you that it
was a feminist Paradise but what we do
know is there were five female pharaohs
women could inherit and Beque property
and of course we had female Physicians
Medical specialization ship building and
Expeditions copious amounts of
literature in poetry and Pros has
survived there is three great volumes of
ancient Egyptian literature published by
a scholar called Mary lenheim I suggest
you look them up in addition to the
coffin text and the pyramid text and
please this is Imhotep has anyone seen
the film The momy returns can you see
that this real imotep doesn't look much
like the emot in the mommy
returns and he is quite arguably the
first polymar the first multi genius
recorded in human history the same two
American physicists I mentioned earlier
Thomas buva and Robert broy or Robert M
and Thomas broy I always get their names
confused they wrote a book on otep's
work but he designed the oldest pyramid
still standing in Egypt the oldest
medical books in human history he wrote
Of course someone may have wrote medical
books before him but the oldest
surviving we have so we could properly
call him the father of medicine we
currently called Hypocrites the father
of medicine but Hypocrites was born
2,000 years later next slide please but
I don't want to give you the impression
as some people try to that ancient Egypt
was all that happened in Africa and even
some you know considered Afrocentric can
overstate the case and act like ancient
Egyptian civilization impressive as it
was was the only civilization occurred
in Africa it wasn't even the oldest
kingdom in Africa the oldest kingdom in
Africa would be in what today that we
know of would be in what today is Sudan
a place called ksul they call it the
land of the bow about two to three
centuries before the rise of ancient
Egypt just as you can see it concurs
with what the ancient Greeks said about
ancient Egyptian civilization coming
from inner Africa concurs with many
other forms of evidence a place called
KSU there was the first Kingdom
recognized Kingdom in Africa and it had
many of the symbols that would later go
into fonic Egypt so it was in many ways
a precursor to fonic Egypt but there
have been many stages of civilization in
Sudan that started before and proceeded
to after the fall of formal fonic
civilization so if we fast forward a
little bit next slide please and
again we see pyramids like this I've
been here there are more pyramids
surviving in Sudan than there are in
Egypt 223 in all though they are not as
old as the ones in ancient Egypt these
are of a later date these ones are from
about 100 BC next slide please then if
we go forward there was a Christian
Empire in Sudan this is a reconstruction
by a Polish archaeologist of a Christian
Church from 100 1,000 ad rather yeah
again pretty impressive based on the
remains this is what it would have
looked like next slide
please fast forward to
Ethiopia now this I will show people
this and I usually ask what is unusual
about this building but we haven't got
time for the quiz it usually takes
people a little while to figure it out
but it's not technically a building it's
a carving the architect and the Builders
of this 800 year old church have dug
down into the ground and carved the
building out of the mountain next slide
please and that's what it looks like
inside can you see that's quite
impressive for 800 years ago quite
beautiful next slide please this is a
stil weighs
450 uh family-sized cars the equivalent
of 300 tons we don't actually know how
2,000 years ago people in Ethiopia
managed a to carve this block of granite
and B to get it to stand up without a
crane and can you see if you look
closely it's imitating a multi-story
building I can't say that they had multi
story buildings but there's a door at
the bottom and there's what are clearly
flaws and the imitation of Windows going
up to the top nonetheless it's fairly
impressive to get a 300 ton block of
granite to stand up with Crane and it
isn't even the largest SEL found in
Ethiopia in this time the largest one
found weighs 500 tons so almost double
but it's it's no longer standing next
slide please now if I showed you these
castles at the beginning of this
presentation and we didn't know this was
a presentation on African history we'd
probably assume these were in England or
Scotland or Norway but these are
Ethiopian castles from the 17th century
next slide please we get to Western
central Africa this is the heart of
where Africans were supposed to display
their innate inferiority because this is
where most of the enslaved Africans
enslaved in Americas were taken from and
what do we have here in 1668 a Dutchman
called aler the PO traveled around
Central and western Africa and he drew
some pictures this is a picture from
what today would be Nigeria the kingdom
of Benin in 1668 you can see the
procession of the king you can see multi
story buildings in the background if you
look really closely even though it's
quite small for some of you at the back
you can see the city in the background
it has a wall around the outside of it
this wall the Great Wall of Benin is in
the Guinness Book of World Records 1974
Edition is the largest Earthworks
carried out prior to the mechanical era
it's estimated that the wall at its
height may have been as much as
10,000 miles of wall in I didn't start
or make a mistake go and take up the
beef with the archaeologists next slide
please this is the king uh the city of
leango in the Kingdom of Congo same year
drawn by the same guy we can see clear
evidence of urban planning straight
streets Terrace housing multi-story
buildings again a wall around the entire
out city with gates in it this uh this
particular state was almost like a sort
of early client state of the Portuguese
for two centuries they had already been
Trad in at this point Ivory and Pepper
with the Portuguese and this Empire had
an embassy in Rome during the this
period not something we learn about or
talk about too tough next slide
please this is the city of aades in the
Empire of sonai which would be in the
country Niger today uh this city at its
height this is again drawn by a European
traveler called Dr Henry David B had
7,000 people living there in the 16th
century 20,000 to 30,000 people lived in
London in the 16th century so that gives
you a sense of how quickly history can
evolve London was the largest city in
the world 150 years ago in terms of
population it isn't even close to that
today so that gives you a sense of how
quickly a major Metropolis can become
not the big Metropolis anymore and how a
western African City can have been
bigger than London and of course there
not that not be the case just a few
centuries later it wasn't the largest
city in Western Africa at the time uh
the major the largest Empire in Western
Africa uh or there were four concentric
Empires rather the Empire of Ghana which
was today would be in the country of
morania but is where the country Ghana
takes its name then Mali which the
Empire of Mali at its height spread all
the way from Sagal deep into morania
1500 mil across probably the most
wealthy Empire in African history other
than ancient Egypt and according to even
mainstream Scholars like Felipe
Fernandez amesto the richest state in
the 14th century world this is uh one
mosque University from that Empire this
particular one is the Grand Mosque of
Jen has anyone ever heard of a place
called timbak 2 now did anyone else
think timbak 2 was a made up place when
they first heard of timbak 2 I know when
I was young I thought timbak 2 was a
madeup place turns out timbak 2 was a
real place and there's a university
still standing in Timbuktu in uh the
ancient marlean empire but there's a
good reason why we think of timbak as
being magical as we're going to come to
a little bit
later in uh the marlean kingdom there
are still 34 of a million handwritten
manuscripts surviving 34 of A Million To
This Day containing all kinds of
information now one of them was brought
to the attention of the World by Michael
Palin in a BBC program called Sahara and
he basically says I'll paraphrase here
but he says this document which is from
the kingdom of Mali at the time clearly
shows the phases of the moon the problem
with it is is that it's 150 to 200 years
older than the birth of Galileo and
cernus so it makes us think about the
entire history of Science in an
interesting way again that's not me
saying that that's Michael Palin saying
that if you if you got beef take it out
Michael Palin next slide please South
and Eastern
Africa this is what they call Great
Zimbabwe one of over a 100 Stone courts
across Southern Africa uh let's go on to
the next slide I've been here I thought
it was a bit narcissistic to include my
holiday photo so I didn't but uh no no
go back
please but this outer wall weighs over
weighs is 100,000 tons of granite bricks
held together without any cment it was
built in the year 1335 ad by the Shauna
people of Zimbabwe again I have to
emphasize that most of the kingdoms I'm
showing you at some point or other some
scholar somewhere argued they were not
built by Africans and this was no
exception for a long time people were
like could have been anyone the Chinese
Arabs Lebanese people Europeans aliens
anyone but Africans eventually they gave
up and they was like all right yeah the
Shan will probably built it the most
likely explanation is that the people
that live there maybe built it next slide
slide
please this is a door now can you see if
your front door looks like this
today life's all right for you you're
probably doing quite well you're
probably quite wealthy this is a
700-year old East African door from
Zanzibar from what we call the Swahili
Confederacy so there was a collection of
city states almost that spoke the
language of kiswahili in East Africa
that were part of a semi global trade
Network they traded with the Middle East
with India farfield as China and the
Javanese Empire there's a fantastic book
by a woman called Janet Abu lold called
before European Hegman and it looks at
the semi global system of trade between
East Africa the Middle East India and
China at the time um and this is this uh
the wealth of this kingdom was part of
the product of that semiglobal uh trade
system next slide please this is a house
from the period now can you see that
other than the mold around the door that
could be a 1920s Art Deco house and
according to English africanist scholar
basil Davidson who's been there I
haven't been there but this is what the
writing here says of of him
investigating that these houses of
course the houses of rich people living
in this time contain good internal
sanitation next slide
please this is a reconstruction of the
uh one of the main palaces from 1300 ad
and what today would be Tanzania can you
see the swimming pool there was 100
rooms in here yeah 1300 ad Palace in
Eastern Africa next slide
please and then we get on to the image
of black people in early Europe which is
something that's contentious because we
are almost taught even if subtly if you
watch you know as I do for my sins if
you watch a TV show like Game of Thrones
even though you know it's not real
history it's still going in and you
watch Game of Thrones and the only time
black people pop up in this narrative
that's supposed to sort of loosely be
the human story again is as slaves that
isn't an accident the cast in directed
decided we're going to have black people
and they're going to play the slaves and
you know we'll get some brown people
Middle Eastern people and they'll play
DOI Savages that eat Hearts someone
asked for that to be the case and that's
how that happen so if you're a young
person growing up and you imagine a
medieval world you don't imagine people
of African descent necessarily hav
participated how do I know this when I
teach Shakespeare at schools which I
often do and I read a passage from a
fellow or I read sonnets 127 to 142
where Shakespeare clearly refers to
someone who's black but everyone's
avoiding that right
children have actually said to me but
sir were there black people in
Shakespeare's time and I don't realize
what they're saying people in in this
country in an advanced developed wealthy
country because they don't realize they
don't conceive even of Africans having
have existed at that time in many ways
but let's see what was actually going on
in Europe it's a gentleman called St
Maurice St Maurice was part of the thean
uh Egyptian Legions of the Roman army he
became a a saint in christiandom these
are Carvins of St Maurice or paintings
of St Maurice rather from 16th century
Germany next
slide again next slide different saint
St Alban who was said to be an ancient
Ethiopian King that had fought against
Jewish people on behalf of christiandom
this particular picture of him is from
Portugal from the 1750s next
slide this is the giant I don't know how
to pronounce that word but I presume
it's yur this is from France and this is
commemorating the battle with William of
Orange in the 13th century
and this is still there in the town in
France where it was painted again it
gives us food for f next slide but this
is where it gets slightly controversial
and problematic we have these images
over a hundred of them across Europe of
Madonna and Jesus
depicted well it speaks for itself
really doesn't it now the shame of
history is this there's a fantastic blog
online called medieval PC which deals
with the role of people of color in the
medieval world you should all follow
them they're enlightening I've learned
so much from their blog they're on
Twitter and they're on Tumblr but one of
the things they pointed out to me I
can't remember which one of these
madonas it was but there's one that's in
Poland a really famous one and it was
restored a couple of years ago what do
restoration yeah they painted it white
so can you see how you can be robbed of
history and not even know noses come off
black madonas go white and no one
explains why now if you put into an
internet search engine Isis and
Horus you might have some idea where the
inspiration for this statue came from I
I'll leave it at that because that's
another lecture for another day next slide
slide
please this is a European map from 1413
a the two gentlemen in the map the
gentleman on the left is manam Musa king
of uh the marlean Empire at its height
he is estimated by many economists today
to have been the richest human that ever
lived they estimate it might have been a
worth worth as much as 400 billion in
today's money and I'm not saying that
that that's necessarily a massive
achievement for Africa cuz one person
being rich and being a king sort of
probably implies some form of Oppression
usually but as far as kings go manamu
was said to have been a fairly decent
King who gave away a lot of uh uh money
gold uh to to poor people particularly
on his pilgrimage to Mecca he gave away
so much gold in Egypt that it took 10
years for the price of gold to return to
normal that's how much gold he gave away
in Egypt and part of the mythology about
timbak 2 and about this wealthy black
kingdom was a result of manam musa's
pilgrimage to Mecca and all of the uh
rumors that spread around the world and
particularly around Europe at the time
that was going through the plague and
the Dark Ages and kind of other Madness
while Marley was fairly Rich they heard
about this this there's this African
king down there past where the Moroccans
live we need to go and find that guy cuz
he's getting some money now the
gentleman on your on the right was the
ruler of the Moors why have I picked
this particular image because the way
that history has been racialized even in
the modern world the uh for those who
don't know by the way Spain was a Muslim
country for 800 years so African and
Arab Muslims colonized Spain in 711 ad
until 1492 the year Columbus set saale
for 800 years Spain was a Muslim country
no one thinks to teach us that in school
but because there was a forms of
race-based slavery in the Islamic World
some of the scholars have deliberately
kind of distorted the history and said
the only role of black people in the
Islamic world full stop and even in
morish Spain was as servants and slaves
and that same history has come into to
play in that world even though we know
because we have copious pictures
hundreds of pictures I've just shown you
st Maurice which also means more of
rulers of people in every position
clearly depicted as black one only has
to read Shakespeare as a fellow and it
comes very clear that Shakespeare who
Shakespeare had in mind when he was
describing moish people we know that
there were four main dynasties in Spain
and two the two of the major dynasties
the alov and alahad were what we call
berbers if you go to Africa today you'll
see that there are berbers that are all
kinds of mixes the tare people for
example some of the blackest people in
Africa are bers as are much of the
population of Morocco so even that
history has been deliberately distorted
to paint away some of the role of of
black African people in the Islamic
world next slide
please now this is the most contentious
and controversial part of the lecture
and this is the part where I think
there's some room to have some fun and
for us to contemplate things that are
considered outrageous a scholar called
Ivan van CA wrote two books one called
they came before Columbus and one called
uh early America Revisited and both
these books particularly the first one
received a lot of criticism and a lot of
praise it was a very polarizing work
because he suggested that African sail
to America before Christopher Columbus
now I've read a lot of the critiques of
his work and I'll be honest with you
most of the critiques I've read to this
point and I'd be happy to see a better
one hav IA just lied about what he said
they've said that he said the all the OM
were Africans he never said that they've
said that he said Africans civilized
Native Americans who would say such a
racist idiotic thing rather than a
racist idiot he never said that he never
said that Africans founded OMC
civilization these are all things that
people said he said and even put in
quotation marks in their articles
because they knew people were not going
to read van cma's work once you labeled
him a crazy Afrocentric black person
even though he's half Native American
didn't matter job done people are not
going to read his work then some other
critiques that I've read around his work
just deal with partial pieces of the
evidence in isolation and say see
therefore he's wrong but if you view one
piece of evidence in a case in isolation
you're not building a whole case so I'm
happy to see a better more rounded
critique but until then I'm going to
present to you some of the evidence he
presents in his book you can decide for
yourself based on the evidence in his
books if you think the position that
he's put forward is rational and
sensible not based on our bias and the
ridiculous idea that Africans couldn't
have sailed across the ocean but based
on actual
evidence so some of the evidence he put
together shocking as it may
with 13 different European Witnesses
including Columbus and Columbus's son
the names are all up there you can go
and check check the book check his
references who talked about seeing
Africans when they got to America
Columbus particularly doesn't talk about
actually seeing them himself he talks
about the indigenous people of Haiti
giving him some Spears that they said
they traded with black people that came
from the southeast he takes them back to
Spain they're examined by the Spanish
myologist who concludes they were the
same as the spears they were trading
mcin one of these Scholars here the
Frenchman uh Captain Curt explicitly
refers to the Africans he saw in Panama
as mandingos which were the people of
medieval Marley so 13 different
Europeans African oril tradition in the
Malian Kingdom says that King Abu bukari
II left he abdicated the throne with 200
ships to sail to the great continent to
the West there are two contemporary
Arabic documents from Egypt that tell
the same story of King Abu bakari II
abdicate in the throne and sailing into
the great continent to the West none of
this conclusive yet but here's where it
gets really sticky the Smithsonian
Institute found two skeletons that they
concluded based on anthropological
examination to be African tropically
adapted skeletons at H Bay in St Thomas
dated from 1250
ad gets a bit problematic on an island
just then on an island just close to
that they found an ancient African
writing system which I'm about to show
you called The tiag Script which
originates in Libya but was also used by
medieval Marans modern voyages on
Ancient craft so three different
European scholars rebuilt first of all
ancient Egyptian ships then medieval
African ships and then one guy even
sailed the last guy in that list Alan
Lombard sailed across the Atlantic in a
raft with no supplies just a fishing rod
and he caught rainwater so the Atlantic
is not particularly hard to cross we
know that Columbus was sailing down the
coast of Africa trying to get to India
and he got caught in these currents to
assume that it's impossible for an
African fisherman to have made the same
mistake let alone a royal Fleet of 200
ships seems a bit strange to me I don't
know why we would assume that and then
things got even more controversial in
1992 the female scientists who developed
the test to test hair for drugs so that
test that people still use if you're a
football player or if you're an athlete
or if you're a prison person they want
to see if you're a prisoner and they
want to see if you've been taking drugs
they examine the proteins in your hair
and they can see what kind of drugs
you've been taking the woman who
developed that test in 1992 found
cocaine in the stomach of rames II and
she was so shocked by what she found CU
she knows that cocaine comes from
America she tested and retested and
retested because she knew she was going
to get loads of stick then she tested
Sudanese mommies and found the same
thing and read what she said she got
hate mail people cussing her people were
just like what are you talking about
you're an idiot a woman whose scientific
prowess is there you know is there to be
attested to but what she discovered was
so upsetting for some people that she
was she was hated on by people who of
course are nowhere near as
scientifically qualified as she is
botany and oceanog and oceanography and
ceremonial and uh cultural
correspondences between some of the
stuff we're seeing uh in Africa and in
the Americas for example Bart Jordan a
famous uh mathematical genius child
genius who was so bright that he was
given in a public audience with Albert
Einstein when he was just a child this
is how mathematically genius the G one
was he' done a study of African pyramids
of ancient Egyptian pyramids and
Mesoamerican pyramids according to him
not according to me I'm not on that
level mathematically according to his
study he's like they have to have been
related because the complex mathematical
relationships to particular planets like
Venus that these pyramids are built
around there's just no way it like it's
impossible that you would get that
correlation without some sort of
relationship again if you have an issue
with it take take up with him I don't
have the answer but next slide so here
we have in uh in Mexico in 800 BC cameos
no big deal till we turn the face
around how do we explain a face like
that turning up in Mexico in 800 BC now
I would put it to you that if this was
an overtly Chinese face or a face that
looked like a viking we wouldn't even
have to have a debate everyone be like
it must mean based on one face the
Vikings must have gone to America how
could you have an obviously Viking face
in America unless there was Vikings
there yet we can have a face like this
and people can honestly look at this and
say it's impossible that people of
African Heritage could have gone to
America okay and not all thehe heads
look like that I want to restate again
van was very clear not all of thech
heads were Africans so pointing out that
some of them don't look like Africans is
irrelevant because it was very clear
that many of them are obviously not
African and Native American Next slide
please this is the tiffan script that I
was talking about from Whole Bay in um
in St Thomas sorry the tiffan script is
not in h Bay it's on does say there
bottom Reef Bay in St John's in the US
Virgin Island so same collection of
islands and if you read what it says it
actually talks about ablutions so not
only is an ancient Libyan script that we
know medieval marians used but it makes
an explicit Islamic reference and we
know that kingdom was Islamic at the
time next slide
please this is Mary at it height I just
wanted to show you to get a sense of
just how massive it was 1500 miles
across and again according to even
mainstream historiography it's now
accepted that this was probably the
richest state in the 14th century world
to to so to suggest that the richest
state in the 14th century world wasn't
capable of building ships and sailing
the ocean seems a little odd to me again
I'm not saying you have to accept all of
this evidence I'm saying all I want as a
counter argument is evidence I don't
want Prejudice and bias which is what
I've seen from a lot of the scholars
that have have counteracted
vanma these carvings are from Panama and
Mexico from the 1300s the the member of
the German royal family called Professor
Von hotu who helped van CMA write the
book has over hundred of these Carvins
they were tested by a process called
firmino luminesence which I don't
scientifically understand but apparently
it's a way you date Museum artifacts
before the German Museum would buy them
of course they wanted to know they were
not forgeries CU some people even said
ah he just he forged them all these
Carvins and then they were tested before
the German Museum would buy them and
they were originally owned by a member
of the German royal family how do we
explain Carvins like this turning up in
Mexico in the 1300s and
again and again and again this is my
favorite one that is a handsome face
that one in it let's let's be
honest if someone's got a more logical
explanation than than that people that
look like this were present in Mexico
I'd love to hear it and this is the
Reconstruction of an ancient Egyptian
Papyrus ship done by for hyow a
Norwegian in 1969 he went to Chad he
didn't go to Egypt he went to Chad and
the Budu Boatman in Lake Chad rebuilt
him an ancient Egyptian Papyrus ship and
he sailed from Egypt to Barbados so we
know it was physically
possible so again we've got to digest
the evidence and decide what we think
based on the evidence until then I'm
going to agree with the American head of
the Smithsonian Institute that was part
of the archaeological team in fact he
was the head of the archaeological team
that digged up the omhe heads he said
the following and I will I will read it
word for word he said van cma's work is
a summary of six or seven years of
meticulous research based upon
archaeology egyptology African history
history oceanography geology astronomy
bamy botany rare Arabic and Chinese
manuscripts letters and journals of
early American explorers and
observations of physical anthropologists
as one who has been immersed in Mexican
archaeology for some 40 years and
participated in the excavation of the
first giant heads I must confess I am
firmly convinced of the soundness of Van
ca's conclusions but people would sell
it to you that the only people who
believe in Vana are crazy Afrocentric
black people trying to make themselves
better for racism next slide please and
this is the final part of my uh of my
conversation with you today because the
one part of African history we do teach
is trans or as I prefer to call it the
transatlantic trafficking enslaved
Africans and usually when we teach that
history if there's anything you take
away from it growing up in the UK it's
that William wiber Force set Africans
free there's nothing else you probably
learned in school other than William
Wilberforce set Africans free I went to
the National Portrait Gallery when I was
a child 7 years old and my teacher
pulled me aside and pointed at a picture
of William W and said Kingsley she was
Canadian this man he stopped slavery now
unfortunately for my teacher I went to a
panafrican Saturday school where we
learned about the maroons and the
Haitian revolution so I'm seven but I
know a little history so I'm like Miss
all by himself you mean he helped and
she beef me she was like no Kingsley he
stopped slavery I was like come on Miss
so for people who believe in freedom and
democracy as we say we do who believe in
human rights we must understand that
slavery is not knew even though the
transatlantic traffic in enslaved
Africans may have been particularly
brutal may have gone on particularly
long may have been particularly large
scale there may have been particular
features ancient Greece had slavery
ancient Rome had slavery there was
slavery in the Middle East there was
forced servitude in certain African
empires for sure right slavery is not a
new uh thing in human history but only
once in the whole history of humanity
that I know of and that I've ever been
able to find in history have enslaved
people overthrown the government and
become the governments now surely for
anyone who genuinely believes in freedom
and democracy and human rights and we
talk about the March toward democracy
what could be more democratic than
getting rid of slavery we want a cheer
for abolitionists but we won't cheer for
enslaved people who freed themselves and
became the government for those who
don't know what I'm talking about
between 1789 and 1804 in Haiti the
enslaved Africans in Haiti defeated the
three major European Empires of the time
at War and declared themselves
independent and the First Nation to
abolish slavery I know our prime
minister wants to keep repeating while
he's visiting Jamaica that everyone in
Jamaica should remember Britain's role
in abolition because Britain was the
first country to abolish slavery but
1804 comes before 07 it's just basic
arithmetic next slide please some of the
leaders of the Haitian revolution again
one of the fascinating things about
history is how sexist history is even
revolutionary history so most of the
leaders we know even from black
revolutionary history are always menant
yet we know in the Haitian revolution
from ton Lu's own mouth a gentleman
we're going to get to in a minute that
30% of all the fighting troops in the
Haitian revolutionary Army were women
given that two third of the people
enslaved in the Americas were men that
means women were absolutely fully
playing their role in the Army this is
one of the leaders Cil fatiman she was
what we call a vodun priest and her and
a man called duti Bookman who was also a
vodun priest and a Muslim he was a
former maroon in Jamaica he left Jamaica
he came to Haiti in 1789 they staged the
ceremony that is really what we see as
the formal part of the Haitian
revolution we have to understand there
were hundreds of rebellions throughout
transatlantic slavery which is normal
you try to kidnap people and their
children and enslave them they're going
to Rebel it's normal and the only way to
maintain slavery was through terrorism
and we can go through whole cataloges of
the kinds of terrorism that we used but
in 1789 Bookman and fatiman started a
ceremony that kicked off what would
become the only successful slave
revolution in human history and lead to
the defeat of the three major empires in
Europe and the breaking of the back of
the transatlantic traffic forever next
slide please another leader female
leader Santi Belair she's famous because
when she was executed which she was she
first of all demanded to be executed by
firing squad they were going to hang her
cuz she was a woman she said no I didn't
want to be executed by fire and Squad
like a man and according to the
tradition her husband naturally if
you're about to be killed was a bit
upset and he was crying and she
apparently slapped him and said do you
not know how how sweet it is to die for
Liberty stand up and basically her
husband had to stand up and take the
bullets like a man CU you know we're
told only men can be brave be like a man
don't be like a woman well Santi B was
like a man of course she was really like
a woman next slide please now the
leaders that we do know if we know
anything about the Haitian revolution
will be the following two gentlemen this
gentleman is called Jean jaac desim he
was the man who actually led the country
to Independence he was the deputy
General if you like for most of the
Revolution he was underneath the main
leader T but he was the leader who
actually took Hai across the Finish Line
who took who fought the final battle
against the French the Battle of verer
and he declared the country independent
in 1804 after declaring the country
independent he massacred all of the
French people left on the island what a
lot of pseudo historians have done is
said he killed all the white people left
on the island to try and racialize the
history in a way that is not to accurate
what they don't really want to tell you
is no he killed all of the French people
left on the island with the active
encouragement of Britain and America who
were not really getting on with France
at the time this is during the
Napoleonic Wars what's more part of this
history that we don't learn fascinating
part of the history is that the Polish
who were part of the French army
defected from the French army and fought
with the Africans against the French
against slavery and when the Revolution
was over he didn't kill the Polish in
fact if you look at the constitution of
1805 he done something that's very
fascinating he declared that the only
ethnic identity valid in hati from this
day forward would be black and even the
Polish and the Germans who fought with
us from this day forward they're black
which I thought was fascinating as a
social scientist for someone to say
right being black has been a Badge Of
Dishonor has been a crime has been
something to make you a slave for all of
our history on this island now Blackness
is just going to be normal we're even
going to say that white people are black
and interestingly of course they renamed
the island 80 after the honor of the
indigenous people CU that was their name
for it yeah the French had called it or
the Spanish called it San Domingo and it
had all various different European names
it's now Haiti and the Dominican
Republic by the way cuz it's one Island
but during colonial times it was at
various points one side was Spanish one
side was French then it was unified then
it split again and this is the gentleman
that everyone knows if they do know
about the Haitian revolution Tuson he
was the leader for most of the
Revolution all of these people I've just
shown you began their life as enslaved
human beings Tuson L was a slave until
he's he was 45 years old but he became
an educated enslaved person he became a
privileged slave if you like he was
allowed to read he was a Coachman which
was usually a a a role that was reserved
for mulatos mixed people or for
Europeans so he he began to read and in
the Bible and in a book by a French
scholar called ABI RH now he started
reading all sorts of stories about
rebellion about Revolution about a
messiah and he decided he was going to
be that Messiah and he became a
brilliant military General and he led
the country for most of its history then
in 1802 after the French had betrayed
him many many times the French said all
right come to France come on we we'll
settle this come to France we'll have a
negotiation many of Tucson's advisers
said tucon don't go to France you know
what they're going to do don't go to
France but I think maybe tucon was tired
at this point maybe he thought the
French was going to negotiate as they
said they were going I don't know what
he thought but he went to France the
French put him in prison and starved him
to death because they intended to
reinstall slavery and even though they
said they hadn't fortunately for history
the French lost the final battle and
slavery was outlawed in Haiti but
unfortunately in 1825
once the different European war and
Powers had made up the French threatened
to reinvade Haiti and they said if you
don't pay us back for our loss of
earnings for our loss of property 91
million gold Franks we're going to go to
war with you again at that point maybe
Haiti wasn't in a position to go to war
again they paid back those 91 million
gold Franks and it took over a century
to do so so when we talk about slavery
being ancient history where if they
started paying in 1825 I do believe it
was 1947 when they finished paying that
debt next slide please but one of the
things that the Haitian revolution did
lead to
was the Louisiana Purchase Napoleon for
those who don't know what that was that
green area was French Louisiana that
area of America was owned by the French
until 1803 Napoleon had dreams of a new
Empire based on Haiti Haiti at the time
was the most profitable colony in the
world producing more sugar than India
producing half of all Europe's coffee it
was an incredibly profitable Colony once
Napoleon lost that Colony he had no
purpose for this anymore so he sold it
to what became America so the Haitian
revolution and revolution on a tiny
little island of enormous hemispheric
importance of enormous human importance
yet we don't learn about it we've got to
make up our mind we're either for
freedom and democracy and we're going to
celebrate movements for that or we're
not we can't cheer for abolitionists
because their efforts would have been
worthless with the greatest of respect
to them without the revolutions that
were going on in the Caribbean and we
can demonstrate that 04 haian Revolution
ends oh magically 07 Britain has an
epiphany and says slavery is bad and
outlaws the transatlantic traffic
finally slavery itself was made illegal
in Britain in 1834 or in Britain's
Caribbean colonies 2 and a half years
after the largest rebell
in Jamaican History well what do you
know isn't that a coincidence that the
dates were away so close 60,000 enslaved
Africans in Jamaica under a man called
Sam shop burnt down half the plantations
in Jamaica killed a whole bunch of slave
masters 500 of them were hung in Revenge
but nonetheless slavery the back of
slavery in Jamaica in Haiti and
elsewhere had been broken there was no
use for it even anymore and of course it
wasn't Central in many ways to Britain
and other more industrialized countries
economies at that point but again that's
another debate for another day that's
not to say there were not genuine
abolitionists in the in this country and
they shouldn't be remembered they
absolutely should but to remember
abolitionists without remembering
hundreds of thousands of people who
physically shed their blood to free
themselves seems a little bit
hypocritical to me next slide please the
last slide I'm going to show you for the
evening before I put up a biblography
and we open up this is the Citadel this
is a military fortification that was
built in Haiti within the 15 years after
it declared itself independent I think
it's incredible that a group of people
who began their lives as enslaved human
beings were able for a brief period
until tell they were extorted again to
build monuments like this though I must
be honest to history and not romanticize
history the guy who took over desine the
man I showed you was assassinated by the
way when the revolution ended he made
the mistake of kind of trying to
Institute some kind of socialist
measures in Haiti he said to the other
elite Black and Milat leaders he said
listen we've got all this property now
we're rich now we've inherited what the
french used to have I think we should
redistribute this property to the people
who won the revolution to the poor
people to the enslaved the other leaders
were like no thanks and they murdered
him and the gentleman who took over was
a bit of a despot he may have been black
but he was a black despot and so we know
that many many Haitians died building
this so I don't want to come here and be
romantic and pretend that everything was
all wonderful once the Revolution was
one but I am putting this up to say that
I do think it's incredible as part of
the human story that a group of people
who live most of their Liv as slaves
were able to construct something like
this not withstanding of course the
brutality that underpinned
it here's a very brief bibliography for
some of the information that I put up
tonight we'll leave this up as we open
up for questions but again I just want
to provoke you with that food for for
and look at how can we fully understand
the human story in this globalized world
if we don't have any real sense of major
parts of it and especially in a country
like this that is becoming increasingly
Multicultural especially in the city I'm
from somewhere like London can we really
justify having a curriculum in the 21st
century that teaches us more about Henry
VII killing his wives than it does about
say for example the Peter L Massacre
something probably many people in this
room may not have even heard of yeah the
Peter L Massacre for those who don't
know cuz history is of course not
distorted just along lines of race as
I've already pointed out it's distorted
along lines of gender but also lines of
class the pet Massacre was a massacre
that occurred just outside of Manchester
in 1819 where 15 unarmed protesters
protesting for basic parliamentary
reform were hacked to death in the UK do
you not think that would be relevant for
us to know cuz many of the freedoms that
we have the right to vote we're almost
taught like we just have it cuz the
British Elite are so benevolent that
they've just always given people the
right to vote in reality even within the
UK people to shed their blood for the
very limited freedoms that people have
and maybe take for granted and so for me
with all my biases with all my political
Persuasions I would advocate for a much
more revolutionary inclusive people-
centered Global teaching of history for
the world that we live in thank you very much
thank you very much Cara that was
fascinating um what do you think is the
most effective way for us to replace our
whitewashed version of history with a
more balanced picture that includes
black history is it by people like you
kind of going around talking to as many
groups as possible or would you like to see the entire school history curriculum
see the entire school history curriculum Rewritten well I think it's important to
Rewritten well I think it's important to understand for me I think the dichotomy
understand for me I think the dichotomy of black and white can be a dangerous
of black and white can be a dangerous territory where we get into just
territory where we get into just focusing on that dichotomy rather than
focusing on that dichotomy rather than realizing that we need an overhaul in my
realizing that we need an overhaul in my view but again this is based on my
view but again this is based on my biases and the way I view the world we
biases and the way I view the world we need an overhaul generally depending
need an overhaul generally depending what we want the outcome to be I don't
what we want the outcome to be I don't think we should be naive history isn't
think we should be naive history isn't distorted by accident the what's on your
distorted by accident the what's on your curriculum isn't chosen by accident when
curriculum isn't chosen by accident when you watch the news there is an editor
you watch the news there is an editor for the news someone who decides what
for the news someone who decides what will and won't make the cut similarly
will and won't make the cut similarly with the design of a curriculum someone
with the design of a curriculum someone decides what will and won't make the cut
decides what will and won't make the cut I'm saying based on my view of the world
I'm saying based on my view of the world and what I'd like to see I would love to
and what I'd like to see I would love to see a more people centered curriculum
see a more people centered curriculum Full Stop in London we have particularly
Full Stop in London we have particularly London but UK as a whole we have people
London but UK as a whole we have people from all over the world we have people
from all over the world we have people from every reach of the British Empire
from every reach of the British Empire yet no one's ever explained to people
yet no one's ever explained to people that live in this country particularly
that live in this country particularly working-class people that maybe feel
working-class people that maybe feel displaced where are all these people
displaced where are all these people from India and Ghana and Nigeria and
from India and Ghana and Nigeria and Barbados and Jamaica came from it's just
Barbados and Jamaica came from it's just they just came out of finera after World
they just came out of finera after World War II all of these people who we've got
War II all of these people who we've got no idea where they came from just
no idea where they came from just descended upon Britain and if we look at
descended upon Britain and if we look at the r around immigration at the moment
the r around immigration at the moment that's still how a lot of it is conveyed
that's still how a lot of it is conveyed and no one ever says well actually I'm
and no one ever says well actually I'm we used to own their country and they
we used to own their country and they fought for us in a couple of world wars
fought for us in a couple of world wars aside from building our economy and
aside from building our economy and actually when my grandmother came here
actually when my grandmother came here she was a citizen of the British
she was a citizen of the British Commonwealth traveling from one part of
Commonwealth traveling from one part of the British Commonwealth to another so
the British Commonwealth to another so for me I don't think it's just about the
for me I don't think it's just about the inclusion of black history personally I
inclusion of black history personally I think a campaign to do that would be
think a campaign to do that would be misguided and wouldn't win I think it's
misguided and wouldn't win I think it's the inclusion of global history cuz we
the inclusion of global history cuz we live in a globalized world and if we
live in a globalized world and if we want our children to be able to function
want our children to be able to function in a world where they might need to
in a world where they might need to speak Mandarin which is a very real
speak Mandarin which is a very real economic possibility you can see our
economic possibility you can see our government kissing up to China right now
government kissing up to China right now right then we might need to teach them
right then we might need to teach them some things about the world if we want
some things about the world if we want to raise people that might want to go
to raise people that might want to go and work in Sagal or morania or India we
and work in Sagal or morania or India we going to need to raise people with more
going to need to raise people with more awareness but also for me it's about
awareness but also for me it's about human relations and it's
human relations and it's about reduction of conflict
about reduction of conflict if we have an understanding of the
if we have an understanding of the relationship between different cultures
relationship between different cultures historically I don't think we would be
historically I don't think we would be so quick to support Wars to support
so quick to support Wars to support unjust foreign policy to view people as
unjust foreign policy to view people as less than ourselves we'd be more warm to
less than ourselves we'd be more warm to other human beings so absolutely I have
other human beings so absolutely I have an agenda I'm not coming here I don't
an agenda I'm not coming here I don't believe in objectivity I think it's a
believe in objectivity I think it's a made up nonsensical idea that I can
made up nonsensical idea that I can transcend my upbringing my class
transcend my upbringing my class everything I've been through and just
everything I've been through and just speak on behalf of Bangladeshi women
speak on behalf of Bangladeshi women because I'm so objective no if I want to
because I'm so objective no if I want to know what Bangladeshi women think I'll
know what Bangladeshi women think I'll ask a Bangladeshi woman um so I am
ask a Bangladeshi woman um so I am totally projecting my my agenda and I
totally projecting my my agenda and I own that up front but for me I would
own that up front but for me I would like to see not just black history but
like to see not just black history but world history talk but I will add that
world history talk but I will add that for me my passion for learning world
for me my passion for learning world history came from panafrican Saturday
history came from panafrican Saturday school so as a young afro Caribbean
school so as a young afro Caribbean child growing up if I had swallowed the
child growing up if I had swallowed the eurocentric curriculum that told me
eurocentric curriculum that told me black people's only role in the human
black people's only role in the human story was first of all as being slaves
story was first of all as being slaves then getting set free by William wi
then getting set free by William wi force and then the civil rights movement
force and then the civil rights movement in America I probably would have had
in America I probably would have had very much pride in my own identity
very much pride in my own identity luckily I didn't swallow that curriculum
luckily I didn't swallow that curriculum cuz I went to a sep Saturday school that
cuz I went to a sep Saturday school that Caribbean people set up in the 1970s
Caribbean people set up in the 1970s there's a big movement in the 70s where
there's a big movement in the 70s where Caribbean set up Saturday schools to a
Caribbean set up Saturday schools to a teach black history but also to teach
teach black history but also to teach maths and Science and to improve on what
maths and Science and to improve on what they felt was a racist curriculum but
they felt was a racist curriculum but also the way their children were being
also the way their children were being dealt with in the schools I was a lucky
dealt with in the schools I was a lucky recipient of some of that knowledge and
recipient of some of that knowledge and it meant that I didn't feel inferior to
it meant that I didn't feel inferior to what I was been taught so I could engage
what I was been taught so I could engage with Shakespeare or Newton or Plato
with Shakespeare or Newton or Plato because I didn't feel intimidated by
because I didn't feel intimidated by that because I didn't feel that people
that because I didn't feel that people like me had never contributed anything
like me had never contributed anything to human progress so if we don't teach
to human progress so if we don't teach that history many people can come to the
that history many people can come to the world or come to world history with an
world or come to world history with an inferiority complex that is unjustified
inferiority complex that is unjustified and unnecessary thank you we're going to
and unnecessary thank you we're going to open up to questions from the floor if
open up to questions from the floor if you'd like to ask a question please put
you'd like to ask a question please put your hand up high and wait for the
your hand up high and wait for the microphone to come round to you could we
microphone to come round to you could we start with the gentleman in the third
start with the gentleman in the third row over
there first of all thank you so much that was incredibly eye opening thank
that was incredibly eye opening thank you um I was also uh wondering so um a
you um I was also uh wondering so um a lot of these civilizations probably had
lot of these civilizations probably had their own historical records as well
their own historical records as well right and a lot of the sources that we
right and a lot of the sources that we were seeing were from um Greece and some
were seeing were from um Greece and some other ones were those um I uh were those
other ones were those um I uh were those systematically destroyed or what what is
systematically destroyed or what what is the situation with historical records
the situation with historical records from say Egypt but also Ghana Mali yeah
from say Egypt but also Ghana Mali yeah so as I mentioned there there's 3/4 of a
so as I mentioned there there's 3/4 of a million documents surviving from the
million documents surviving from the malan Empire so those still survive
malan Empire so those still survive today they haven't all been translated
today they haven't all been translated so the only government in Africa
so the only government in Africa unfortunately that's put up any money to
unfortunately that's put up any money to start translating them is the government
start translating them is the government of South Africa so of course it's a very
of South Africa so of course it's a very slow process there's three4 of a million
slow process there's three4 of a million documents but already what has emerged
documents but already what has emerged from that process is a book called the T
from that process is a book called the T Al fatash which is a history of that
Al fatash which is a history of that area written by an African that lived in
area written by an African that lived in Timbuktu so up to this point most of the
Timbuktu so up to this point most of the documents have been Arab observers or
documents have been Arab observers or North African observers of West Africa
North African observers of West Africa or european observers because there was
or european observers because there was a mythology that West Africa didn't have
a mythology that West Africa didn't have any writing in the case of Nubia or
any writing in the case of Nubia or Sudan for example they have a writing
Sudan for example they have a writing system called meroitic but it's never
system called meroitic but it's never been deciphered unlike the ancient
been deciphered unlike the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs whereas in Ethiopia
Egyptian hieroglyphs whereas in Ethiopia they have their own records those have
they have their own records those have been deciphered they also used the
been deciphered they also used the Ethiopian alphabet to write Greek we
Ethiopian alphabet to write Greek we found in Sudan in medieval Nubia um
found in Sudan in medieval Nubia um essentially writings that are in several
essentially writings that are in several different languages in Greek in Latin so
different languages in Greek in Latin so we know it was a Cosmopolitan City that
we know it was a Cosmopolitan City that had relationships with the world so
had relationships with the world so there are documents but in many cases
there are documents but in many cases books have been destroyed we know the
books have been destroyed we know the Library of Alexandria was destroyed we
Library of Alexandria was destroyed we know mes American documents that doesn't
know mes American documents that doesn't relate to Africa but we know they were
relate to Africa but we know they were massively almost completely destroyed so
massively almost completely destroyed so we've had to piece back the history
we've had to piece back the history together in a way that accounts for the
together in a way that accounts for the fact that there's not as much written
fact that there's not as much written record despite Europe's massive amounts
record despite Europe's massive amounts of Wars there's what van calls archival
of Wars there's what van calls archival continuity we have the written documents
continuity we have the written documents so we can piece their history together
so we can piece their history together more easily whereas in the case of
more easily whereas in the case of Africa or meso America other colonized
Africa or meso America other colonized spaces we may have to use other forms
spaces we may have to use other forms things like botony things like
things like botony things like archaeology but the picture is still
archaeology but the picture is still emerging but that isn't for absence of
emerging but that isn't for absence of written documents so I want to make that
written documents so I want to make that I want to make that clear but ancient
I want to make that clear but ancient Egypt of course has some of the most
Egypt of course has some of the most copious amounts of written documents of
copious amounts of written documents of any ancient civilization
any ancient civilization it's just the myth that it's non-african
it's just the myth that it's non-african has
persisted can we go to the uh gentleman here on the front
row thank you very much first of all I hope you forgive me for a kind of
hope you forgive me for a kind of tangental question it's about music um
tangental question it's about music um about Grime specifically so Grime has a
about Grime specifically so Grime has a lot of traction at the moment
lot of traction at the moment particularly in Oxford skep doors here
particularly in Oxford skep doors here at the weekend Y and there's a lot of
at the weekend Y and there's a lot of white people there's a lot of public
white people there's a lot of public school people um Etc it's sort of you
school people um Etc it's sort of you know very into this kind of music um and
know very into this kind of music um and sort of dressing in whatever way and you
sort of dressing in whatever way and you know rapping and things like that to be
know rapping and things like that to be part of a movement which is which
part of a movement which is which they're not really part of in a socio
they're not really part of in a socio economic sense necessarily um do you
economic sense necessarily um do you think the sort of let's say public
think the sort of let's say public school and I don't want to say
school and I don't want to say appropriation but kind of enjoyment
appropriation but kind of enjoyment let's say of grime is something that is
let's say of grime is something that is perverse do you think it's something
perverse do you think it's something that's funny do you think it's something
that's funny do you think it's something that's actually Progressive well I think
that's actually Progressive well I think it depends on the individual in question
it depends on the individual in question I think someone enjoying another group
I think someone enjoying another group of people's culture there's nothing
of people's culture there's nothing perverse about that unless they have
perverse about that unless they have perverse opinions about the same group
perverse opinions about the same group of people whose culture they're claiming
of people whose culture they're claiming to enjoy so for example if I don't
to enjoy so for example if I don't respect your culture but I enjoy your
respect your culture but I enjoy your music if I don't respect your struggle
music if I don't respect your struggle but I enjoy your music that's a little
but I enjoy your music that's a little perverse so if we look back in history
perverse so if we look back in history at segregated clubs in America where the
at segregated clubs in America where the only black person allowed in the venue
only black person allowed in the venue was the black person on stage that's a
was the black person on stage that's a bit problematic in the era I live in
bit problematic in the era I live in quite right now labber Grove the old
quite right now labber Grove the old crack house has been turned into a a
crack house has been turned into a a club a very snooty sort of Caribbean
club a very snooty sort of Caribbean food serving club and and when too many
food serving club and and when too many black guys go there on the weekend
black guys go there on the weekend everyone gets uncomfortable but it only
everyone gets uncomfortable but it only plays reg music and serves Caribbean
plays reg music and serves Caribbean food you got to make up your mind which
food you got to make up your mind which one do you want and for me you can't
one do you want and for me you can't have black culture without black people
have black culture without black people I think not and Hill Carnival has become
I think not and Hill Carnival has become an example of that where they've sort of
an example of that where they've sort of turned it into red and and Leeds
turned it into red and and Leeds Festival there's nothing wrong with red
Festival there's nothing wrong with red and Leeds Festival they're great
and Leeds Festival they're great festivals but n Hill Carnival was set up
festivals but n Hill Carnival was set up directly in the wake of a racist murder
directly in the wake of a racist murder of a man called Kelo K crane to promote
of a man called Kelo K crane to promote and celebrate Caribbean culture I always
and celebrate Caribbean culture I always give people this example if I went to a
give people this example if I went to a Dali Festival which I have done many
Dali Festival which I have done many times in the UK and in India and
times in the UK and in India and everyone there was Jamaican and Ras
everyone there was Jamaican and Ras aarian I would complain not because I've
aarian I would complain not because I've got anything against Jamaican
got anything against Jamaican Rastafarians I didn't go to the valley
Rastafarians I didn't go to the valley to experience rastafarianism and so for
to experience rastafarianism and so for me if I go to not in Hill Carnival and
me if I go to not in Hill Carnival and it's no longer a celebration of
it's no longer a celebration of Caribbean culture that isn't about
Caribbean culture that isn't about hating anyone it's about asking why this
hating anyone it's about asking why this Festival that was set up for specific
Festival that was set up for specific purposes has been appropriated so I
purposes has been appropriated so I think no matter what class you're from
think no matter what class you're from you can engage in a different group of
you can engage in a different group of people's culture
people's culture constructively but many people don't do
constructively but many people don't do that does that make sense and there is a
that does that make sense and there is a particular type of performed Blackness
particular type of performed Blackness that people are willing to engage with
that people are willing to engage with without engaging with the oppression
without engaging with the oppression that has gone into creating that form
that has gone into creating that form does that make sense so I I I don't
does that make sense so I I I don't think necessarily because someone
think necessarily because someone happens to be wealthy and white that
happens to be wealthy and white that means they can't engage with black
means they can't engage with black culture in a constructive way but there
culture in a constructive way but there is certainly a condition
is certainly a condition of I want to cherry pick the bits of
of I want to cherry pick the bits of Blackness I'm willing to listen to and
Blackness I'm willing to listen to and hear and I don't really want to engage
hear and I don't really want to engage with the wider issues and I certainly
with the wider issues and I certainly don't want to deal with uh what went
don't want to deal with uh what went into creating Grime CU Grime is an
into creating Grime CU Grime is an offshoot in many ways of Hip Hop even
offshoot in many ways of Hip Hop even though many Grime artist would admit
though many Grime artist would admit that hip hop is an offshoot of the
that hip hop is an offshoot of the Traditions that come before it so many
Traditions that come before it so many of you even the artists themselves can
of you even the artists themselves can feed into this shallow depiction of the
feed into this shallow depiction of the culture which can be problematic for
please hi Cara um on the same sort of train of thought yeah um I wanted to ask
train of thought yeah um I wanted to ask you what your thoughts are on the nword
you what your thoughts are on the nword and like the use of that in rap music
and like the use of that in rap music because obviously as a white person I've
because obviously as a white person I've been brought up never to ever use that
been brought up never to ever use that word but a lot the music I listen to
word but a lot the music I listen to says it 20 times in every song so I
says it 20 times in every song so I wanted to know what your thoughts are on
wanted to know what your thoughts are on that and like whether you think it's a
that and like whether you think it's a word that's become obsolete or whether
word that's become obsolete or whether you think that there are negative
you think that there are negative consequences on the fact that it's so
consequences on the fact that it's so widely used I do I do I very much do I
widely used I do I do I very much do I used to be someone who use the word all
used to be someone who use the word all the time as some of you may or may not
the time as some of you may or may not know I came to a stage in my life where
know I came to a stage in my life where one of my oldest said to me you're
one of my oldest said to me you're better than that and I started reading a
better than that and I started reading a bit more I started studying the history
bit more I started studying the history of the word I started looking at the
of the word I started looking at the brutality that had been underpinned by
brutality that had been underpinned by this word let me be clear I'm not
this word let me be clear I'm not against people using the word I'm just
against people using the word I'm just against the stupid idea has now become a
against the stupid idea has now become a term of emment it hasn't it has so much
term of emment it hasn't it has so much blood attached to it for me it means
blood attached to it for me it means what is always meant it is a term of
what is always meant it is a term of white supremacist genocide it is a a
white supremacist genocide it is a a word that says African people are not
word that says African people are not human it was a way of reducing people to
human it was a way of reducing people to subhuman status which led to as I've
subhuman status which led to as I've said to you people being put in zoos or
said to you people being put in zoos or public lynchin in America where someone
public lynchin in America where someone could literally be barbecued in public
could literally be barbecued in public and people thought it was perfectly
and people thought it was perfectly acceptable to bring their child give
acceptable to bring their child give their child the day of school to come
their child the day of school to come and watch a person be barbecued in
and watch a person be barbecued in public rail systems would operate
public rail systems would operate special Lynch and day rail cards after
special Lynch and day rail cards after the Lynch and there'd be postcards with
the Lynch and there'd be postcards with the dead person on front of it they'd
the dead person on front of it they'd send out as souvenirs so this is the
send out as souvenirs so this is the history behind that words if we look at
history behind that words if we look at early hip-hop when hip-hop was a bit
early hip-hop when hip-hop was a bit more independent when hip-hop was owned
more independent when hip-hop was owned a bit more by the black community we see
a bit more by the black community we see that hip-hop was completely offensive to
that hip-hop was completely offensive to everyone you people would say cracker
everyone you people would say cracker they'd say honky they'd say you'd
they'd say honky they'd say you'd have ice cube making inappropriate songs
have ice cube making inappropriate songs like black Korea you'd have songs that
like black Korea you'd have songs that NWA songs that were about killing black
NWA songs that were about killing black people Hip Hop was just completely like
people Hip Hop was just completely like Punk it was just offensive to everyone
Punk it was just offensive to everyone but someone decided somewhere it was no
but someone decided somewhere it was no longer acceptable to say cracker and
longer acceptable to say cracker and honky and those kind of but was
honky and those kind of but was okay and for me when we look at who owns
okay and for me when we look at who owns hip hop most def made a song called old
hip hop most def made a song called old white men is running this rap it's
white men is running this rap it's called the rapes over it was on a a beat
called the rapes over it was on a a beat the same beat that Jay-Z made the
the same beat that Jay-Z made the takeover on and that song was taken off
takeover on and that song was taken off of his album without his label telling
of his album without his label telling him because he criticized white
him because he criticized white corporate ownership of hip-hop he said
corporate ownership of hip-hop he said some tall Israeli is running this rap
some tall Israeli is running this rap and that was taken to be
and that was taken to be anti-semitic Leo Cohen is tall and is
anti-semitic Leo Cohen is tall and is Israeli it's a statement of fact it
Israeli it's a statement of fact it wasn't anti-semitic he was like that's
wasn't anti-semitic he was like that's who's in charge of rap it's not black
who's in charge of rap it's not black people um and so I think that the use of
people um and so I think that the use of that word has become to me very gimmicky
that word has become to me very gimmicky has become a dangerous way of glossing
has become a dangerous way of glossing over the reality of what it was to be
over the reality of what it was to be black in America and certainly for me as
black in America and certainly for me as someone whose mother's white I don't
someone whose mother's white I don't understand the motivation for white
understand the motivation for white people to want to use the word when
people to want to use the word when people are like but why can't I use it
people are like but why can't I use it I'm white I'm like first of all why do
I'm white I'm like first of all why do you feel oppressed by that I'm confused
you feel oppressed by that I'm confused and knowing the history why do you want
and knowing the history why do you want to call your black friend let's
to call your black friend let's just deal with that for a minute cuz my
just deal with that for a minute cuz my mom's white and she's never had the
mom's white and she's never had the desire to say look at my little niggaer
desire to say look at my little niggaer son so I'm confused why people want to
son so I'm confused why people want to use the word now now black people can
use the word now now black people can figure out for ourselves whether or not
figure out for ourselves whether or not we think is intelligent to continue
we think is intelligent to continue using the word but why are young white
using the word but why are young white kids like I just want to I just want to
kids like I just want to I just want to this comes back to your question a
this comes back to your question a little bit this perverse sort of
little bit this perverse sort of Blackness is just a bit dangerous and
Blackness is just a bit dangerous and it's a bit sexy and it's a bit violent
it's a bit sexy and it's a bit violent oh can I say niggga can't I it's a
oh can I say niggga can't I it's a little bit of that yeah but I don't
little bit of that yeah but I don't think a song called honkies in Harlem
think a song called honkies in Harlem would get on radio
would get on radio one but in Paris will we've got
one but in Paris will we've got time for one more question uh could we
time for one more question uh could we go to the question on the back R there
go to the question on the back R there hi um you spoke earlier about how kind
hi um you spoke earlier about how kind of Lucky and fortunate you were to go to
of Lucky and fortunate you were to go to a Sunday school was it or it was
a Sunday school was it or it was Saturday Saturday oh um where you could
Saturday Saturday oh um where you could sort of experience a different kind of
sort of experience a different kind of History yeah um I wanted to know what
History yeah um I wanted to know what sort of specific advice would you give
sort of specific advice would you give to as well as people like me who um not
to as well as people like me who um not only have to deal with very whitewashed
only have to deal with very whitewashed Academia here but back where I'm from
Academia here but back where I'm from there's a lot of internalized kind of um
there's a lot of internalized kind of um denial of any contribution that you know
denial of any contribution that you know India or wherever made to civilization
India or wherever made to civilization in general um sort of dealing on both
in general um sort of dealing on both two different fronts if you like well I
two different fronts if you like well I think you have to uh a good friend of
think you have to uh a good friend of mine who's one of the youngest if not
mine who's one of the youngest if not the youngest professor in American
the youngest professor in American history G called MK Asanti Jr um whose
history G called MK Asanti Jr um whose dad was actually the guy who came up
dad was actually the guy who came up with the idea of afrocentrism
with the idea of afrocentrism interestingly enough that theory but his
interestingly enough that theory but his son always says take two sets of notes
son always says take two sets of notes you live in the world you live in I
you live in the world you live in I don't want to come here and pretend to
don't want to come here and pretend to you that I'm all depressed and
you that I'm all depressed and everything everyone has a struggle even
everything everyone has a struggle even to be brought up in a culture let's be
to be brought up in a culture let's be clear to be brought up in a culture that
clear to be brought up in a culture that teaches you are you are ethnically
teaches you are you are ethnically exceptional and then have to go to
exceptional and then have to go to school with a garan kid who's cleverer
school with a garan kid who's cleverer than you is difficult so I don't want to
than you is difficult so I don't want to pretend that everyone Brown has it
pretend that everyone Brown has it terrible and everyone white has it
terrible and everyone white has it wonderful there are challenges and
wonderful there are challenges and consequences of being brought up in a
consequences of being brought up in a culture that pathologically tells you
culture that pathologically tells you you're brilliant just because of the way
you're brilliant just because of the way you look how's that going to pan out for
you look how's that going to pan out for you in the real world it doesn't pan out
you in the real world it doesn't pan out so well so I I don't want to give the
so well so I I don't want to give the impression that it's all oneway traffic
impression that it's all oneway traffic in that sense if we look at suicide if
in that sense if we look at suicide if we look at uses of drug addiction I grew
we look at uses of drug addiction I grew up in workingclass inner city afro
up in workingclass inner city afro Caribbean London I've never been to a
Caribbean London I've never been to a party and seen people take heroin or
party and seen people take heroin or cocaine we I'm not saying people don't
cocaine we I'm not saying people don't sell cocaine or take cocaine but you
sell cocaine or take cocaine but you will never go to a party in hen and see
will never go to a party in hen and see tables full of cocaine and ketam in and
tables full of cocaine and ketam in and all those kinds of hard drugs that I see
all those kinds of hard drugs that I see when I go to festivals that are
when I go to festivals that are problematic in a way right so there are
problematic in a way right so there are issues that come for any uh kind of
issues that come for any uh kind of group identity but I would say in terms
group identity but I would say in terms of taking two sets of notes that means
of taking two sets of notes that means you have to do what you have to do to
you have to do what you have to do to get by in the workplace you have to do
get by in the workplace you have to do what you have to do to survive
what you have to do to survive in University but for yourself for your
in University but for yourself for your own spiritual center for your own
own spiritual center for your own well-being you have to expose yourself
well-being you have to expose yourself to a broader set of information beyond
to a broader set of information beyond the propaganda that you're being taught
the propaganda that you're being taught and that goes for you as a woman goes on
and that goes for you as a woman goes on many levels you know the history of
many levels you know the history of women in science are we to believe that
women in science are we to believe that women are less intelligent that's why
women are less intelligent that's why there's less women in science of course
there's less women in science of course not and when countries like Iran and
not and when countries like Iran and India are producing more female
India are producing more female scientists than the UK as a percentage
scientists than the UK as a percentage we have to ask ourselves why because all
we have to ask ourselves why because all we hear about gender relations of those
we hear about gender relations of those countries by the way the Indian Mission
countries by the way the Indian Mission Tom Mars a lot of the scientists who
Tom Mars a lot of the scientists who worked on it were women and they did it
worked on it were women and they did it for 10% of NASA's Mission to Mars and
for 10% of NASA's Mission to Mars and this was last year right so you can find
this was last year right so you can find inspiration in things that are even
inspiration in things that are even happening and evolv in now that's not to
happening and evolv in now that's not to say that gender relations in India are
say that gender relations in India are all of a sudden wonderful because of
all of a sudden wonderful because of that is to say we only hear one side of
that is to say we only hear one side of it so I think you have to give yourself
it so I think you have to give yourself a broader picture for me I find a lot of
a broader picture for me I find a lot of solace in reading a lot of solace in
solace in reading a lot of solace in acquiring greater information um and
acquiring greater information um and it's not just about therapy it's about
it's not just about therapy it's about learning these things to inform action
learning these things to inform action as Dr John henr Clark says and I'll
as Dr John henr Clark says and I'll close with it history is is a map which
close with it history is is a map which people which tells people where they
people which tells people where they have been and where they must go history
have been and where they must go history is a clock on which people tell their
is a clock on which people tell their cultural political and socioeconomic
cultural political and socioeconomic time of day so history is not just to
time of day so history is not just to Naval gaze and say our ancestors are
Naval gaze and say our ancestors are great but we're not our well is to say
great but we're not our well is to say oh this is the history as Europe does
oh this is the history as Europe does right now there go Greece Rome
right now there go Greece Rome Enlightenment 21st century if you pick
Enlightenment 21st century if you pick up a violin tomorrow and you want to
up a violin tomorrow and you want to learn classical music they're going to
learn classical music they're going to take you to 14th century Florence
take you to 14th century Florence whereas if you're a rapper it's very
whereas if you're a rapper it's very unlikely that anyone's everever told you
unlikely that anyone's everever told you the connection to West African malyan
the connection to West African malyan griots their relationship to Jazz then
griots their relationship to Jazz then Blues then reggae music and giving you
Blues then reggae music and giving you that sense of continuity cuz it's broken
that sense of continuity cuz it's broken history and that's what I'm interested
history and that's what I'm interested in rebuilding so take two sets of notes
in rebuilding so take two sets of notes I'm afraid that's all we have time for
I'm afraid that's all we have time for this evening but we are going to be
this evening but we are going to be heading into the bar so please do come
heading into the bar so please do come and have a drink and continue the
and have a drink and continue the conversation with aala in there please
conversation with aala in there please join me in thanking aala B go thank you
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