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Oh, no, no, no, no. You're terrified.
You're a hypocrite.
I'm really baffled.
Um, I I'm terrified of this of this
subject. I'm not. No, I'm not. In the
UK, you can be jailed for making jokes
about Islam or the or even bring up the
grooming gangs. I'll bet you $1,000 you
will not go to the UK and make a joke
about any of that stuff because you will
not go to a foreign country and in
violation of their laws speak out
against what they've said not to speak
out against. Do it. I dare you. What's
going on everybody? Welcome back to the
channel. The culture war with Tim Pool
was a wild 3 hours yesterday where he
cooked again Adam Conover, the woke
comedian. I tried to compress it down to
the best parts for y'all. And as usual,
the timestamps are in the description.
Let's get it started with the Maryland
man hoax. Let's go.
$10,000 cash in your pocket if you go to
the UK and make a joke about Muhammad
having a 12-year-old wife. I Man, this
this we got here faster than I thought
we would in this conversation. It it
looks like a pretty clear uh fascist
authoritarian takeover of the US
government, you know. Um it's uh we got
people being thrown into unmarked vans.
We got like the destruction of the civil
service, which is like a pretty standard
authoritarian tactic like early on in a
uh administration of that type. Um and
uh yeah, it's like sort of remains to
see be seen how far they'll get uh and
if they'll actually be able to to
transform America in the ways that
they're trying to. But yeah, it's pretty
my side of America things are people are
people are a little uh people are a
little on edge. It's a little
frightening to folks. Yeah, my my take
on that would be largely because
corporate press is lying to them
largely. And so what corporate press?
There's no corporate press left hardly.
Well, I I would say their viewership is
rapidly diminished. Yeah. But still uh
when you look at there was a real clear
politics uh aggregate polling found that
they didn't they didn't necessarily by
demographic. They did it by uh decade
age bracket. So it was like 20 to 29 or
whatever. every age group except for 70
plus was proTrump was was uh was a few
points above uh uh Real Clear Politics
did a average and they said that every
every age group in America 70 plus every
every age group except for 70 plus is
proTrump. Yeah, let me see if I can try
and find it. And this is contrasting to
like all the approval rating stats I've
seen have him at like what like 40 47%
and dropping or something like that.
It's it's it's largely based on the uh
the older crowd
just old that's seems like the opposite
of uh every every stat I've seen in the
past. But I don't like follow this
really closely. Yeah. I don't know how
to find this image because it was a few
weeks ago. But let me see if I can I can
try and pull it up and talk at the same
time, which I probably can't. But um I
don't actually do you want to see if you
can try and find it while while we talk
otherwise I'm going to be sitting here
typing. No problem. Out of my mind. Um
yeah. So what I would say is like the
the obvious story we we uh we debated
this last week live is the Abrago Garcia
story. Yeah. And so the take that I've
typically seen from uh liberals is
actually I'll use a specific example. Uh
the David Pacman subreddit. Pacman of
course has millions of followers. He
gets 100 million views per month. And
his audience on Reddit was saying this
is just a family man who is trying to
escape harsh conditions in Central
America who has been effectively
disappeared by the Trump administration.
Mhm. Which is a gross
mischaracterization of what happened. If
we were to say that a judge granted Ario
Garcia withholding of deportation due to
barios 18 in Guatemala and threats
against his life in El Salvador, then
the question of due process is he needed
to get a hearing as pertaining to that
withholding of deportation. But he did
already have uh two two hearings in
which he was determined to be an MS-13
gang member. He was pulled over and uh
law enforcement believed to be uh
believed to be human trafficking. He has
two filings from his wife for beating
her. She was filing or orders of
protection. And so it's fine if you know
in my view the liberals the liberal side
of things or the you know podcasters
like Pacman and Brian Tyler Cohen and
others are going to say hey he was
supposed to get a hearing agreed but it
is a gross mischaracterization. So when
you mention that um you know people on
the left are on edge, I'm like yeah,
well they think that a guy who lives in
Maryland who was working like a regular
union job or whatever just disappeared
one day as opposed to a guy who had gone
through several hearings, was arrested
with MS-13, had symbols on his hand that
uh law enforcement believe were MS-13
gang tattoos. And so the real question
is what was the error in that
deportation? On the right, it's we it's
legally called harmless error in that he
didn't get a hearing as to the
withholding of deportation. However, he
would have he he he wouldn't have got it
approved anyway. So, the answer now is a
formality. It's a it's paperwork. It's a
Zoom call and then it's it's done. But
people on the left, the liberal side of
things, they think that this is a
working-class family guy who's vanished
one night, an American citizen. And I
think it was actually uh Hassan people
people don't think he's an American
citizen. I mean, they're they're up to
speed on like Assan [ __ ] thought he was
from Maryland
legit. And and so we're talking and I I
know it's not you, but this is um like
the seventh biggest live streamer in the
country. Almost every single day, Hassan
gets 50K. And he actually said on his
stream in response to the comments I
made at the White House, "What do you
mean he's not from Maryland? Are you
saying he's from DC? He's from
Maryland." No, he's from El Salvador. He
only lived in Maryland for a few years.
Okay. I mean, that guy talks for, you
know, eight hours a day. like you can
parse, you know, any particular Sure.
For sure. statement, but like I mean
that to me everything that you said,
first of all, half of it sounds
unrelated. Like, you know, he's had past
interaction was with law enforcement,
like domestic violence and stuff like
that. I I to me that's like neither here
nor there. It's like character stuff. Um
I I don't really give a [ __ ] about like
the character of the guy and I I didn't
think that was a big part of the story.
It was like the the fact that he did
not, you know, receive due process
before being, you know, rendered to a
prison, like this bizarre prison in El
Salvador. Like that's the that's the
strange part, right? That's El
Salvador's government with an El
Salvadoran citizen. That's not our
that's not our purview. I mean, he's
like sent directly to this like
gigantic, you know, complex. uh it's uh
in a in a like highly public way in a
way where like the
administration, you know, is making a
show of their refusal to uh you know,
follow the law. It's uh it's it's
bizarre to witness and like you know the
sort of narrow legalistic oh he had a
hearing he was d it it's irrelevant to
like the purposeful spectacle of the
Trump administration you know sending
this guy uh who they admit they should
not have done this but they're like we
don't give a [ __ ] we're doing it just
because we hate guys like this and we
want like even people who are in the
country legally to you know be afraid
and to what self- deepport. Like it's it
seems like uh uh the the only
justification is purposeful cruelty for
I don't think they call on any any legal
immigrants to self- deepport. They're
calling on illegal immigrants to self-
deepport, offering up $1,000 if they do.
The guy had illegal status to be in the
country.
Withholding of deportation isn't legal
status. Withholding of deportation means
he was he was ordered to leave the
country, but the US was barred from
sending him to El Salvador. uh
specifically because Barios 18 in
Guatemala had threatened his family. So
the question uh as to due process was is
that this is why I think the actual
legal standard is called harmless error.
If he actually got a either USCIS
interview as to the withholding of
deportation, it would have been voided
because El Salvador no longer has the
crime rate that it did uh 12 years ago
or 10 years ago. The issue is are you
still at threat from Barios 18? The
answer is no. And so then your
withholding of deportation is void. We
can deport you. The issue is that for
deportation of someone like Rego Garcia,
he has a home country, El Salvador. He
has a withholding to that uh to El
Salvador. Uh withholding of deportation
because of a gang in another country
neighboring El Salvador. We can't deport
him to Venezuela. We can't deport him to
Mexico. That requires treaties. The US
doesn't have those. Though we do have a
treaty with Venezuela with El Salvador
as it pertains to Trenaragua. So what
ends up happening is he's got he's got
an or he had two orders of deportation.
He conceded in 2019 through his lawyer
that yes, he was here illegally. Uh yes,
he had been found to be here uh to be
removable under the law. And he
requested three uh uh there there's
withholding of deportation, there was
asylum, and then there was um I forgot
what the uh uh the third one is. It's
it's it's you can't deport them because
of a fear of torture. It's a it's like a
UN thing. and they denied two of them.
Asylum was denied because he he he
didn't apply for it uh in a timely
manner. Deportation to El Salvador was
granted because of Barios 18 in
Guatemala. And then um the last one was
denied because there's no torture
provision. The remedy right now would be
a Zoom hearing where he gets on a
computer, talks to a uh uh these are
executive judges, by the way, and they
would just say withholding denied.
Welcome to El Salvador. You're an El
Salvador citizen. There's no doubt that
the Maryland man hoaxed their way. The
reason they were saying a Maryland
father, a Maryland man, they were trying
on the leftist media and the mainstream
media to scare Americans, the over 60
crowd were believing it and they thought
that they were even Joe Rogan, I made a
video, Joe Rogan was believing that this
was an actual American citizen, not
somebody who's been in the country
illegally for 14 years, which is what he
actually was. They were trying to scare
Americans, saying that, hey, if you're a
brown or black American, you could be
deported to an El Salvador prison as
well. Trump would never ever deport and
no one would ever support him deporting
actual American citizens, no matter how
bad they were. Like Tim P mentions here,
a 10-minute Zoom call would do it. That
would be his due process. Now, there was
a mistake done, and they've all admitted
that there was an error in sending him
abroad to El Salvador, but hell, he's
from there. But really, if they really
wanted to, they could just send a USCIS
guy down there, interview him, and that
could be his his little hearing, and
then they can come back. He can come
back to America. Not not ago Garcia, but
the USCIS guy, and it's all done. The
reason they're not doing that, and Tim
talks about it on this show, he talks
about a few reasons, but the reasons I
think they're not doing it is one, Trump
wouldn't want to look weak. He doesn't
want to look like he's been pushed
around by the judiciary.
actually universal injunctions are
unconstitutional. But I think Trump is
concerned that he's going to set a
precedent by doing this by Trump adering
to the universal injunctions pertaining
to the Alien Enemies Act or the Mass
deportations. And he's not going to
allow that to happen. He's not going to
allow that precedent to be set. He
doesn't want to set a president so that
in the future they don't have any of
these universal injunctions to go back
on in the Constitution. We've seen what
about 40% of all injunctions ever in
this way against Trump and his
administration. I believe he's got more
universal injunctions forced on him in
the first few months of his presidency
than any individual ever. Total totally
unconstitutional. So for Trump's point,
he's saying that what these judges are
doing violates their constitutional
authority and he's not playing that
game. He's not going to adhere to
something they can't do. And on top of
that, the guy was from
Venezuela. He's been caught in front of
the Home Depot with Coke cans full of
marijuana. The guy beat his wife.
Clearly a member of MS-13, had the
tattoos, gang affiliation tattoos, gang
affiliation clothing. The father of the
kids that his girlfriend had, he went to
the cops saying that he feared for his
kids because this guy was in a gang in
El Salvador. On top of that, he's not an
American citizen. So, yeah, get the f
out. It's funny that they never talk
about the Hillary Clinton and Obama due
processes when they deported everybody,
but that's beside the point. Now, let's
get to the next part of the video where
they talk
about Marco Rubio revoking student visas
for these protesters and pro- Hamas
students. Let's go. Marco Rubio
specifically revoking student visas,
saying that these individuals represent
a threat to our national security by
adhering to our enemies and and what
literally that's what they're claiming.
I think it's ridiculous to claim that a
student who's anti-Israel is working
with Hamas. That's silly. But that's the
argument he's making. And under the INA,
he has the authority to do it. So you
say, okay, well, when people come in
here on student visas, they do sign
agreements saying they won't do certain
things. They do it, they get kicked out.
This is okay with you cuz it's narrowly
legal under Marco Rubio's uh you know
purview. I would say it's what's fine
with me is the revocation of a visa for
someone who's not a citizen who's here
conditionally like Muhammad Khalil who
was on a conditional temporary visa gets
revoked. I just say like well that's a
conditional visa. I don't I don't go to
Singapore and spit on the ground. I'll
get I'll get caned. So So sorry. You
think what's what's happened to those
students is like that's okay with you
not legally. I'm talking about like as
an event that occurred in the country.
You're like, "Oh, it's good that that
happened. It's okay with me. You think
it's moral. You think it's right. You
think it's just I'm not talking about
legally. I'm talking about like, you
know, you you say you you don't 60%
60%." Yeah. like like nothing's so
easily black and Romea Our who you know
she wrote an op-ed the only thing that
anybody has even claimed that she's done
is she wrote an extremely mild op-ed in
her campus newspaper asking that the
camp you know the college like sort of
consider uh you know being supportive of
the Palestinian cause in some vaguely
defined way her visa's revoked she you
know you we've all seen the video right
people come and like grab her and
literally put her into a vehicle they're
wearing mask masks, right? Um I mean,
she's like she's stopped in an alarming
way on the street, right? It's not like
they filmed that and published that
footage, though. That was that was
security camera footage. Yeah. They they
did they did it in a there's Hey, if you
want to a a student, like a young woman,
you there's other ways to arrest them to
have than have six people show up
wearing masks, surround her in a pinser
formation. Like, it's it's designed to
create terror. So, like, what? You don't
have to do it that way. Okay, great.
They didn't have uh and and Biden's DOJ
didn't need to show up at Roger Stone's
house at 4 in the morning. Sure. And and
you know what? If you want to bring up
another example, I'll say I condemn that
as well. If that if that'll if that'll
keep us on the topic for a second. So,
you think that America should be a
country where if you come here on a
student visa, you're paying into our,
you know, university system. You're
coming here for the reasons that, you
know, completely legally we've invited
you to come, right? This is this is why
uh America is the country it is
partially because people like this have
come for for decades. If you express a
political opinion that is like mildly at
odds with a US interest in another
country of a canal that you should be
deported. You think America should be
the kind of country where if somebody
comes here they write an op-ed that says
uh literally anything about US foreign
policy they should be deported. So, so,
so going forward, so, so going forward,
literally everyone in the world should
know if you are on foot on US soil, you
should not say anything in public about
US national priorities of any kind or
else you could be deported. Do you think
it's good to have a country where that's
the understanding? All right. Right.
Right. So, you're saying that this is
what I'm trying to drill down to. The
individuals who come to this country and
apply for student visas have made that
agreement already.
So while I would argue the deportation
of Romesa is the thinnest of hairs,
Mahmud Khal makes more sense. I mean he
organized and helped lead protests that
resulted in damage, occupations of
buildings, several uh uh staff at the
Columbia. Let's stay on Romea because
then we don't have to split hairs,
right? The issue uh is do not come to
our country and tell us what to do.
That's it. If you're here as a guest of
this nation, you do not start rallying
its people in opposition to its to the
will of the voters and what the
government is doing. I I I
mean I really thought the point of
America was, you know, freedom of speech
was like a main value here that you that
I think that's why people come here.
It's why I like living here because I
always felt that hey, I can express an
opinion especially about US foreign
policy and not have anything happen to
me. So that's that's a right that only
citizens have and we you think you you
think America should be a country where
if you are not literally an American
citizen if you express any opinion about
US foreign policy I mean the and we both
agree the opinion she expressed was
pretty mild. It wasn't like a very
inflammatory opinion, right? It was like
it's pretty mainstream political opinion
to have it. It conflicts with US
interest about the Swiss can. I still
don't really understand that point, but
let's just say that it does. That should
be grounds for being forcibly removed
from the country and and like whether or
not it's legally the case that we could
do that. We we've had numerous instances
across administrations that have acted
similarly. Okay. So, so let so let's say
let's stay on Romea Our students coming
here and telling us to oppose our
support with Israel puts it puts us at
risk in terms of the sentiment of a
younger generation as to whether or not
we'll fund Israel and control the Suez
Canal.
Uh but but I asked you if you thought it
was good to deport her. I said
marginally, right? Because because we
have national interests in the Suez
Canal and she wrote an oped US's
interest. Okay. So what so what why do
you think it was good to deport her?
Asserting US sovereignty. Do not come to
our country and tell us what to do.
You've got a condition of your visa. You
are a guest in this country. I agree
with Tim here that what she did wasn't
egregious. And let's face it, if it
wasn't about Israel, she probably would
not be deported, but I'm okay with it.
When you come into a country, you are a
guest. Tim said you agreed to this when
you signed these papers to become to be
a student on a student visa in America.
Same that you do when you're on a work
visa. A lot of these people come into
our countries. You see it in Europe and
Canada and in America. They come into
our country. A lot of them Muslim
people. They undermine everything that
we do. They don't care for our way of
life, for our ethics, our morals. Why
should we have these people in our
country when all they do is undermine
what America wants to do? You are not a
citizen and it's in the Immigration and
Naturalization Act. There's multiple
provisions for this. For this girl, was
she a member of Hamas? No, I don't think
so. But you need to set an example with
someone if you don't want people to do
this. And granted, the same way if you
go to any country, if you went to a
Muslim country, you wouldn't be allowed
to preach Christianity and say something
against the country in a Muslim country.
One, they probably would kill you. But
yet, we allow people that come here that
are Muslim, which is their whole goal is
to spread Islam in America. So, if
you're not an American, why are we
allowing this? You can't go to Asia and
do this [ __ ] You can't go to Muslim
countries and and pull that stuff off.
You are a guest in a country and you
should adhere by the laws of said
country which you'll see in the next
segment when they talk about the UK that
that Adam is a hypocrite. If you violate
the conditions of your visa, we are
allowed to deport you. The people that
give you this visa are allowed to take
that away at any time. Again, you are a
guest in the country. And yes, in
America we have free speech, but said
person is not American. So if you come
in and you start undermining and writing
opeds against our foreign policies and
against our government, why wouldn't
they deport you? What are you bringing
to the country as a positive when you do
that? Again, I mentioned when you come
into a country as a guest and you spend
your time undermining everything that
that country does, why should they allow
you to stay? And that goes for any
country. Now, let's get to the part
where it's really, really juicy when Tim
loses it on hypocrite Adam Kono. But I
just did shows in the UK and Amsterdam,
and I made fun of UK politics. I made
fun of American politics. You wouldn't
dare make fun of Islam, though. Uh, go
to the UK and mock Islam. Do it. Well, I
don't have any jokes about Islam. Uh,
why not? They got they got Pakistani
grooming games for raping little girls.
Why won't you go to the UK? What?
Why won't you go to the UK and make
jokes about Islam? I I don't think it's
very funny. I don't have any jokes about
it. I'm so confused. Um, dude, let me
let me help. Unconfused. Can Are there
Are there jokes that can be made about
Islam? Yes or no? Wait, I I don't want I
I don't want to go to that rabbit. No,
no, no, no, no. You're terrified. You're
a hypocrite.
What? Are there jokes you can make about
Islam? Muhammad banged a little girl,
right?
I'm really baffled. Um,
No, I I'm terrified of this of the
subject. I'm not. No, I'm not. In the
UK, you can be jailed for making jokes
about Islam or or even bring up the
grooming gangs. There are people who go
online and point it out that a stabbing
was carried out by by a Muslim and they
got arrested for it. You I'll bet you
$1,000 you will not go to the UK and
make a joke about any of that stuff
because you will not go to a foreign
country and in violation of their laws
speak out against what they've said not
to speak out against. Do it. I dare you.
I
$10,000 cash in your pocket if you go to
the UK and make a joke about Muhammad
having a 12-year-old wife. I Man, this
this we got here faster than I thought
we would in this conversation. Um where
you're you're shouting at me about
something I don't understand. Uh I I I
don't really
understand how you would think it's
incumbent upon me. Do you think anybody
watching this right now thinks you are
confused by the notion that in the UK
you go to jail for mocking Islam?
I I I don't understand how we got on to
you shouting at me about Islam
specifically. I'd like to return to
because you said people should be
allowed to come to this country and
speak out against it and you said you're
a comedian and you're a comedian and you
go to other countries, right? And you
said you go to the UK and I said, "Okay,
if you go to the UK, speak out in
violation of their laws and see what
happens." And you said, "I'm confused. I
don't understand. What don't you
understand? Will you go to Turkey? Will
you go to Turkey and speak out against
Islam?"
I mean, if I have if I have a joke to
make sure I don't have a joke about
those particular topics, you you would I
I would You're saying you if you had a
joke about Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Sure. I would I would try to do the best
I can. I always try to poke the bear as
much as I can. It's part of the job of a
comedian. Uh care about as it pertains
to one of the world's largest religions.
I mean, come on. I mean, I haven't I
have uh I haven't written a joke about
that recently. Um I All right. So, look,
hey, man, I'm a free speech guy, right?
I think that something that's nice about
America is that we're a country that has
that value. Um, and that we don't
generally think that you should be
tossed into a van and kicked out of the
country for expressing an opinion. Um, I
think that it is a change. I think it's
a change in America to most people
around the world to feel that oh wait if
I go to America and I express a mild
opinion about their foreign policy in my
own student paper or maybe on a stage or
maybe somewhere else I could be without
any warning to me accosted by six people
on the street thrown into a van and
taken out of the country. Well, let me
let me finish. I think that's a strange
I think I think that's I think that's a
new idea for a lot of people that
America is that type of country. I think
that Donald Trump's purpose is to turn
America into that type of country. Um I
think that that's bad. I think it makes
the country smaller. I think it makes
the country worse. I think it's a
violation of most of the values that I
grew up with as an American. And that's
my view of what's happening in the
country. Now, if you want to say, "Hey,
I don't like free speech for foreign
nationals who are in the country who
express mild opinions about other
countries, foreign wars, then that's
your prerogative. It's a big difference
between us that you don't like that you
don't like free speech in that way." I
mean, you're that's loaded language,
right? Yeah. All the language you're
using is pretty loaded. Well, you're you
you keep using adjectives to describe
things to diminish one thing while
exacerbate or or exaggerate something
else. I do use the English language to
express my thoughts and opinions. Yeah.
Yeah. But it's too un it's it's it's
straw manning. It's it's it's it's not
it's not a legitimate uh attack of the
ideas, right? So accosted on the street.
Come on. She was arrested. She was she
was arrested by a large group of by a
relatively large group of men compared
to what a normal arrest would require,
which I think they didn't need to do and
was silly. So we can say she was
arrested by several men un uh unmarked
plain clothes, which didn't need to
happen. But I don't need to say like she
was accosted by men on the street and
like it was about a mild opinion. It's
like, okay, listen, the facts of the
case. Uh, like I said, I don't like the
idea that people come to this country
and then try and tell us how to do uh
how to live our lives. You're not for
free speech. I understand. Uh, I think
American citizens have
self-determination and sovereignty. And
I will say this even of the Canadians
who keep coming here and they keep
getting involved in our politics. I'm
friends with some of them, but I think
it's fair to say that there is an issue
with Canadians, largely conservatives,
who come to this country and then start
advocating for conservative ve in a
country they're not from. So to be fair,
there are liberals Canadians who do it
too. I find it to be silly. That being
said, Canada as a bordering nation with
a largely overlapping culture is a
morally different question, but still
applies in much the same way
principally. So I do take issue with
foreigners coming to my is a nice white
country. So we like it. Canada's they
call it what the most multicultural
country in the in the in the world. I
think they they big on immigration. I
think Toronto is considered to be the
the the most multicultural city in the
world. Yeah. Yeah. So, Canada actually
is, you can call it a nice white
country, that's technically the truth,
but it also is very, very much in favor
of immigration and diversity and all
these things, largely what many of the
conservatives come here are speaking out
against. But without without I, you
know, so so this is a country where if
you're if you're from another country
and you're in America, don't say
anything about our politics or you could
be forcibly removed from the country.
You're comfortable with America being
that kind of country. That's something
that's like you're that that's a value
of your those are your values. See, see,
you're doing it again. No, no, I'm No,
I'm trying. I'm trying to understand
what you actually believe. Yeah, I would
say marginally it's a good because I
because I think that's a point of
distinction. Like it's it's useful in a
conversation like this to be like, okay,
I have my value, you have your value.
And you know, I my my value is like I
really like it when people say what the
[ __ ] they think about any country's
politics. We can simplify it. My my
value would just be to whatever
mathematical degree American sovereignty
supersedes the right of foreigners to
speak about our policies. You would
never go to the UK and and and do those
things. If I were Now look, I don't I
don't know of the policies of which you
speak. Okay? But if I were to be if I
were to be in England and I were to make
a joke on their stage and I were to be
put into a van and removed from a
country, I would say this is a bad thing
about England. And I would I think that
the country sucks and I think that they
should change it and I don't think
people should go there anymore and that
sucks for them and it sucks for us. You
wouldn't make a joke about Islam in the
United States.
[Laughter]
You wouldn't.
Okay. Uh, sure. What's What's that meant
to prove? You don't actually believe in
free speech. You fear the consequences.
Because I don't make a joke about the
topic that you demand me to. Because
this topic
result in people like a Charlie Hebdo
getting murdered. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's
bad. That they were murdered. South Park
tried making tried just showing Muhammad
and Comedy Central wouldn't let him do
it. Yeah, that's bad. So, let's see you
stand up for that value and come out and
make a joke about his I stood up about
free speech plenty of times. What are
you talking about? Take it take it to
the next level, brother. Okay, how about
how about we do this? This is You
believe in free speech, dude. This is
what you do when you've lost an argument
is that you just like jump to this. You
just jump to this. What? What you
brought it up? What did I Oh, oh, the
the Islam piece of it. Yeah. Yeah. No,
no, no. And now I'm continuing the
conversation and you're derailing it to
you must have lost the arguments. No.
No. Because you're No, because I stand
up for South Park for Edstone and Trey
Park. I stand up for them. So go on
stage and show a big picture of
Muhammad. I I'm sorry. What? The The
thing that you're doing? Stand up for
free speech, brother. Do it. So I'll do
it with you. So So So you're you're
demanding me to go on stage and do
something. Unless I do, I'm a coward.
I'm saying prove you this is this is a
bizarre rhetorical free speech. This is
a bizarre rhetorical move. I didn't call
you a coward. I said prove you care
about free speech. Do something that
creates real risk to your person for
free speech. Yeah. I I speak about [ __ ]
all the time, dude. I I'm I'm happy to
live in America where the things I say
don't create real risk to my person. In
fact, if I were to say the things that
you're saying, I would not be creating
real risk to my person. You don't think
so? I do not think so. Why not just do
it? Prove me wrong. because I don't have
anything in particular to say about
those. Just put a picture of Muhammad up
and say, "Praise
be. Prove I'm wrong." I I I'm really
glad we got here again because it's uh
it's just very fun to to sit in how
weird this part of the conversation is.
Remember Charlie Hubdo? Yeah. It was
Yeah. What happened? Yeah. The uh bunch
of people were uh shot because they uh a
picture of Muhammad. Yeah. That's bad.
You think if you did that they might
want to shoot you, too? Yeah. Maybe. So
you don't you shouldn't do it. I mean I
don't have it. Well, you know, the
particular images that they showed I
didn't think were like very funny. Like
it was their right to let South Park do
it either. Uh they censored the whole
thing. That's bad. Yeah, that's bad. And
I think that's contrary to American
values. Why won't the free speech people
who believe we should live in this
country stand up against that? I'm
sorry. It I'm not standing for standing
up for free speech unless I do what
exactly?
I didn't say the only way for you to
stand up for free speech is to do
something. said, "Why won't people who
are claiming?" You called me a
hypocrite, and I don't understand what's
hypocritical about me only doing jokes
about the topics that I'm interested.
You would not go to the UK and and speak
in violation of their speech laws.
I mean, I went there. I went there. I
made fun of their government. I talked
about uh you know uh the the fire at
Heathrow because that impacted my travel
when I was there. I talked about Uh-huh.
Yeah. You can make fun of white people,
but you can't make fun of non-white
people. You go to jail for that. Okay.
Yeah. I think that would uh if if it's
as you say that sounds like a if if it
applied to me as a comedian. I would not
I think it would say that's a bad law. I
would not go to Turkey and speak out
against Islam and I would not go to the
UK and violate their speech laws. Oh,
okay. So you're So are are you a coward?
What's what's your point? No, I actually
agree with the sovereignty of nations
and if they have laws, I'm not going to
violate them. You can say whatever you
want against Christians, right? You're
allowed to make fun of white people,
Christianity, Catholics, but god forbid
you would say anything about the
protected religion that is Islam. We do
have the first amendment. You have
freedom of speech, but in the UK, they
will not allow you to have that. You
have to abide by their speech laws. And
they have many. Even on Facebook right
now, people are going to jail because
they've said something that is
considered hateful against Muslim. And
keep in mind now the government in the
UK is largely run by Muslims. They have
enough Muslims there now to keep getting
the vote kind Democrats were trying to
do in America. Make it a one party
state. Bring in as many illegals as you
can so that they vote for you. They
mentioned the Charlie Epto thing that
happened in France. Islam in Europe and
everywhere in the world is associated
with violence. Right? Not all Muslims
are terrorists, but all terrorists are
Muslim. Okay? It wasn't Buddhists and
Christians who flew planes into the Twin
Towers or who blew up the London
Underground and who are blowing up cars
and buses all across Europe. But, God
forbid you say anything against them.
Even the government in Europe, the UK
government was protecting these grooming
gangs for years because they didn't want
to say anything that would make them
sound racist. Adam Conover is a damn
hypocrite.
like most people on the left these days
or or or I shouldn't say that, I should
say the far progressives on the left.
Let's get to the last part where they
discuss a little bit of DEI. So Charlie
Kirk got a lot of flack for this cuz he
said, you know, I go on a plane, I see a
black pilot and I think, am I supposed
to be worried? Yeah, that's racist. But
the point he was making was he was
calling you racist, dude. And you guys
didn't get that. He he said, "You have
created a situation where average people
think you are hiring people who can't do
the job based on race, and we don't want
to live that way." I mean, he's the one
getting on the plane and seeing a black
person and and saying that person's not
qualified. I don't get it. That's not
what he's saying. He says Democrats are
intentionally hiring unqualified people
based on race. Why are they putting us
in a situation like this? He's saying
that if a black person is in the seat,
it means they're unqualified. That's his
assertion. No, he's saying he doesn't
know because he knows you are advocating
for it. I'm just listening to the words
that he's saying. It seems pretty
straightforward. I would I would I would
I would say that when the left and the
right only listen to the surface level
clips and arguments, they don't actually
understand what the person is conveying.
And so the argument then is Charlie Kirk
is a racist, which is not true. Charlie
Kirk's point on that plane was, let's
just map it out one, two, three.
Democrats have created policies by which
they will put people in positions of
authority who don't have the same uh
caliber degree or have passed certain
tests because of race. We've seen
policies where they will actually go
down the list of top candidates until
they get to a race. This creates a
concern among people that an in that
individuals are being hired without the
capability based on race. That's the
idea he's trying to convey. Not that he
doesn't want to fly with the black. You
think that when uh you think that in the
time when uh you know we only had white
pilots or white executives or white
whatever all those people were hired on
merit none of them uh floated through
for some other reason like nepatism.
Yeah. Exactly. Like there's the the I
bet some people gave PJs. Yeah. Exactly.
This the systems are like the they
already do that for everybody. So, so
for him to go in and say, "Uh, oh, when
I see a black person, that's when I
think that, not when I see a white
person." And that's racist on his part
because he's only focusing on when that
black people because the policy is
racebased.
The policy The policy is race and gender
based. And so, the issue is not Charlie
Kirk saying he doesn't like black
people. He's saying Democrats are hiring
people who are less qualified based on
race. this is creating a concern for
people which we don't want to
experience. So the counterargument would
be if you have a system that has no
black people in it, right? You have you
have a you have a a a a pool of people
doing the job that has no black people
in it that clearly is not based on merit
because you know black people are x% of
the population and surely some would
have gotten through if it was really
based on nothing but merit. So, some of
the existing white people must actually
not have gotten there via merit. It must
be because of a race-based system. So,
instead, let's adjust the system so that
we give everybody an equal opportunity.
That is going to mean that there going
to be more black people in the system.
Now, that that happens. He now gets on
the plane, he sees a black person, he
says, "Oh, now it seems they they seem
unqualified to me." That's pretty
straightforwardly racist. I actually
think that it was racist systems that
kept out qualified candidates. What I
would say to your argument is the only
distinction between what you said and
white nationalists is that you want a
system to bring those people in and
white nationalists don't. So you you
both the left and the right agree that
there is some kind of phenomenon where
black people should be qualified and
aren't aren't
qualifying. I disagree with that. Um, I
think that there were institutions
throughout history that have put that
hampered the process by which minorities
were able to go to schools to
effectively get those uh degrees. It's
very difficult. The liberal argument
floats dangerously close, I think, to
what white nationalists are hoping for.
It's not to say you're wrong or
anything, but it's a com it's a similar
argument. That is the implication. The
solution would be color-blind hiring
processes and uh educational benefits
that target class and not race because
then you remove the racial component
from the argument completely instead of
creating a racial argument for the white
national. But if you admit that people
in America are racist, you can't if you
want to you can't build systems that are
completely blind to race or you have
race you have then you have individual
racists continuing to have power over
the system. So what you do is accept
racism, you're just like, "Okay, yeah,
racism will continue to affect every
part of the system and and we can
mitigate it." Right? So, for instance,
for hiring practices, when it comes to
hiring managers, they should have no
access to the name or the race of the
individual. It should literally be
here's the resume, here's their
qualifications. Is it a yes or a no?
Yeah. What Charlie Kirk was mentioning
and what Tim P is trying to tell Adam is
that DEI pretty much does no favors for
these minorities. one, if you do get
accepted because you are a minority, you
might be in a position, say it's a
university, you might be put in a
position to fail. You might not be
qualified enough to be there and
therefore you probably shouldn't be
there because it's just going to hurt
you in the long run. Also, if you're a
black person that deserve to be there or
minority that deserve to be there,
people are going to look at you like a
DEI hire. You're trying to tell me that
in 2025 you don't have all the same
opportunities as everybody else if
you're a black person. You can't say the
the system is systemically racist when
we had a black president for 8 years.
That's ludicrous. You should never be
accepted based on race. Now based on
gender, we can make a case for that. I
don't want to go into a kindergarten and
see a male teacher. I much prefer having
a woman there. I think there's a lot of
cases for law enforcement, for firemen
that men should be there. That's a
biological issue. That's that has
nothing to do with intelligence. It's
just a biological thing. Men and women
are not the same. We have different
characteristics that define us. Now, I
don't think it's right what Tim says at
the end that there should be we
shouldn't see the people we're hiring.
We shouldn't know their name. We should
just look at their resume. I think that
should be a great first step into the
hiring process. But depending on the job
you're hiring somebody for, you're going
to want to have to talk to them. Like,
if you're moving somebody up within the
same company, sure. But if you're hiring
a new person, you want to have a
dialogue with them. You want to know
that they're going to their vibe is
going to
match what your company's about, how
they're going to get in along with
everybody. That's a big important part.
They're going to be spending five, six,
seven, eight hours a day there, how
they're going to interact with
clients, what their physical appearance
is. And I don't mean skin color. I just
mean, are you presentable? Do you have a
big tattoo across your forehead? I don't
care if you're white, black, or Asian,
but I'm not going to hire you if you
have a big skull neck tattoo on your
neck. So, it's important to see the
person in some
cases before you give them a job. But
yes, everything as much as possible
should be merit-based. You should never
get a job because of your race or
gender. Again, there's going to be some
exceptions when it comes to gender, but
not for race. We know based on all the
empirical data that a black kid and a
white kid from the same social economic
class, from the same neighborhood, if
the black kid has two parents at home
who put on a large focus on his
education and the white kid is in a
single mother household, that the black
kid is statistically more likely to
succeed, to go to university, to not get
arrested if it's a girl to not have
pregnancy when she's a teen, to not end
up incarcerated, to not spend years in
jail. There's lots of stuff that comes
with having two parents at home, which
is what we should be focused on in this
country, and not stupid stuff like DEI.
Hope you enjoyed this video. Tim Pool
killed it. Catch you in the next one.
Peace out, everybody.
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