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This discussion emphasizes the profound energetic and biochemical roles of minerals in human health, moving beyond a simplistic view to explore their intricate interactions and impact on physical and emotional well-being.

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Dr. Robert Celig, welcome back to the show.

show.

>> Thank you for having me.

>> Yeah, everyone seemed to love our

original episode. I had quite a few

requests for having you back on and you

you we could probably do a hundred of

these shows about minerals, but uh for

anybody who didn't listen to that first

show, anyone who's listening can go

check that out. I thought it was a great

show. Um let us let everyone know a

little bit just about your background,

like a quick rundown for anyone who

didn't listen to that first show. Well,

I'm a chiropractor by licensed

profession. I've been in the minerals

space for about 20 years now, and

minerals are my passion. I love

everything about minerals, but my kind

of goal is to introduce people to the

energetics of minerals. So, we're not

looking at minerals as as dead rocks of

uh soulless dust floating in space. I

want to kind of clue people in that

minerals are a cosmic spark that bursts

life to everything. So I want to exalt

our understanding of minerals not just

from a biochemical perspective but from

an energetic perspective from an

astrological perspective. So we really

appreciate these minerals because they

are the spark of life. And then the

great example of the spark of life when

that zinc loaded sperm hits the oam hits

the egg they call that the zinc spark of

life creating life. So minerals really

are dynamic and amazing. So I want to

just introduce the kind of the mineral

space into the energetics of the minerals.

minerals.

>> Yeah. Beautiful. So speaking of just a

little side note, have you seen the the

kind of like the viral video? I don't

know how much you're on social media,

but uh there was like a viral video

showing that zinc spark of life that was

kind of going around there. It was like

probably last year, but seems to get

recirculated every once in a while. It

kind of shows that that the exact spark

you're talking about and they're kind of

breaking down how the zinc is playing

the role in that basically right when

the baby's born, you're already you you

know, the minerals are already

energetically imprinted right there

right from birth. It's pretty crazy.

>> Yeah, absolutely. I mean that that's

I've I always go back and revisit that

one because I'm always fascinating

seeing that spark of life creating a

human being. That's amazing. And that's

why when they say minerals are the

sparks of life. That's the prime

example. Then when you look at

magnesium, you know, there is no life on

planet Earth without magnesium because

that captures the essence of the sun.

Without magnesium, there is no photosynthesis.

photosynthesis.

So our blood is red because of iron. We

also have the copper blue blood and then

we have the green blood. So magnesium,

copper, iron determine the quality, the

the color of the blood depending on what

species you are. And we know that

there's a lot of blueblooded creatures

like the horseshoe crab. Are you

familiar with the horseshoe crab? They

medical science will harvest these

creatures from the ocean, drain their

copper blue blood because they use that

in medical science for you know

vaccinations, experiments because

because it's got the copper amazing

antimicrobial antibiotic properties in

that blood and they sell that blood for

gazillions of dollars and they use it

for all medical testing and you know

development of vaccines and stuff like

that. So, we've been harvesting these

creatures and then they take out 30 to

40% of the blood, throw them back into

the ocean, and they end up dying because

they just removed their vital force,

their blood.

Why don't they just take all the blood

and if if the animals going to die

anyways? It's like

>> medical science is just barbaric on so

many levels with the experiments we do

to, you know, all the creatures on this

planet. So, I don't know why they do

what they do, but my point is showing,

you know, that species has been around

for 450 million years because of its

copper blood being able to survive, you

know, ice ages, species extinctions.

Meanwhile, they keep trucking along.

>> Yeah, that's, you know, those um the

crabs and different, you know, shrimp

and they're actually all pretty copper

rich. um those species

>> they're blue blood like the the the

oyster is you know the oyster is a

classic zinc copper and the that

creature breathes using copper so our

respiration you know is using iron their

blue blood is hemocyanin that's how

they're breathing you know whether it's

the um the molesque or the or the oyster

or the horseshoe crab or um the octopus

you know and then there's some land

creatures. There's a few spiders that

breathe using copper. And that's just

showing how copper and iron have such a

love affair with oxygen. That's why iron

and copper always have to be respected

because of you know their gift is using

the oxygen. But then their curse is all

the oxygen free radical super oxide

annions that they can produce. So that's

why we have to respect iron and copper.

Yeah, that's been all of the all of the

the rave the last few years. Iron,

copper, and a few of us in the mineral

balancing space have also brought in the

heavy metal piece, you know, with the

transparent like aluminum affecting

transparent and the lead, how it affects

the ferroport. So, there's also like

obviously the heavy metals that are

affecting the flux and the transport of

iron as well. else. We've been kind of

trying to bring that in, but copper and

iron obviously do have that beneficial

relationship to one another, but also

the heavy metals can disrupt that kind

of movement as well.

>> Yeah, heavy metals can displace a

nutrient mineral. And when you look at,

you know, zinc is a prime example of

that. When you look on your periodic

table, we have the zinc family, zinc,

cadmium, mercury. Cadmium's bigger,

cadmium's heavier, but cadmium's softer,

so it can bully its way into the enzyme

binding site where zinc is. And let's

say carbonic anhydrates, that enzyme

that regulates CO2 in the body. And so

in a in a zinc deficient soil, the

cadmium can pinch hit, do the job, do

the chemistry of zinc, but eventually

that protein won't be able to fold into

that three-dimensional shape over time.

Then it loses its function while

creating horrific free radicals and

oxidative damage. And then that cadmium

can stay in the kidneys for 30 years

while staying metabolically active

because of the similarities between the zinc.

zinc.

They're both have a valency of a plus

two. So, they're very similar chemically

speaking, but because cadmium is heavier

and it's a toxic metal, but because it's

softer, it gets into the enzyme binding

site and does the chemistry of zinc

until the hoax is exposed, until, you

know, you start to see the damage of

having a heavy metal where a nutrient

mineral should be.

>> Yeah. And that's um I've harped on that

with Clark and we've kind of just you

know broke all the heavy metal and the

ionic mimicry down. I think a lot of my

audience understands that now. But I

always you know good to circle back to

it anyways. But for this episode, I I

really wanted to dive into calcium and

we can get into calcium benefits and you

know calcification and kind of want to

demystify because us in this mineral

balancing space we give lots of calcium

like everybody's getting calcium but

then there's like I know I follow a lot

of other alternative health you know

podcasts and things and calcium

supplements are basically like shunn

they say you never need calcium you know

you'll never have a calcium deficiency

you know and I think that that's of you

Calcium is probably one of my favorite

minerals. It's definitely the most

abundant mineral in the body and I

actually think we need quite a bit of

it. So, I wanted to kind of bring you in

and because I've heard you break down

calcification in some of these topics in

other shows and other social media posts

and stuff and I'm like we need to kind

of demystify

this kind of conversation around linking

calcium supplementation directly to

calcification that you read in like

scientific journals or whatever. think

that one's not necessarily causing the

other, per se. Now, if you're taking

tons of calcium and you're not really

working with the whole mineral system,

potentially that could be an issue, but

I think the way that we work the entire

system is it it happens a lot

differently. So, uh I guess to start off

like what are the benefits of calcium?

Why are we giving calcium supplements?

Why does everyone need them?

>> Calcium like you said, it's the most

abundant of the macro minerals in the

body, you know? So, our body is what?

carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen that

makes up 97% of you. And then the 3% are

the the minerals. And calcium is the

most abundant mineral in the body. And

the function of calcium is for all

metabolically active tissue. Meaning

anytime you think, blink, eat, do

anything, an action potential is going

to, you know, trigger the release of

calcium. So that calcium will influence

all muscles whether it's a cardiac

muscle, smooth muscle or skeletal

muscle. All the firing of nerve

transmission, you need calcium. So when

a nerve is communicating from one nerve

to another, you have that electrical

impulse and it releases the calcium. If

it happens to be at a neuromuscular

junction where we're going to get a

muscle contraction, then the calcium

untethers the vesicle storing the

acetylcholine, then the acetylcholine

goes into the cleft and that's going to

communicate with the neuromuscular

junction, start a another whole wave of

depolarization and then when it hits a

threshold that's going to release the

calcium for contraction. Just think how

important that is in the heart. This is

why calcium is so so important. Now 99%

of that calcium is in the bones mostly

as hydroxyappatite

which is calcium and phosphate. That's

what gives bones its strength, its

integrity, its resiliency and that adds

amazing you know structure and dynamic

to the bony architect is that calcium

phosphate. So that's 99% of where the

calcium is in the bones. that 1% is in

the cells and then.1%

this is the part we're interested in.

It's that.1%

and out of that.1%

some of that calcium is bound to

proteins. Some of that calcium is bound

to an annion like you know bicarbonate

like chloride like sulfate like

phosphate and some of that calcium is

ionic free calcium. That's about 50% of that.1%

that.1%

of the calcium. That's what we're

interested in because if that calcium

gets disrupted th that's your

arhythmias, that's your heart attacks,

that can be nerves firing too quick,

nerves not firing at all. Um that's how

important calcium is. So this is why we

have to understand that calcium is a

major player for all excitable tissue.

Now, so we have to replenish that

calcium because we're going to lose

calcium in the in the stool. we're going

to lose calcium in the kidneys. So, we

have to really understand how important

that calcium is. So, to me, it's an

allstar. It's a big big time allstar.

So, I love calcium and we have to

overcome our fear of calcium because,

you know, without coming in with that

daily calcium because you can have an

oxidized version of that calcium, it

could be bound where it's not being

utilized. So we want to have that ionic

uh calcium available so our nerves can

fire, our heart can fire, our smooth

muscles can fire. So that to me is why

calcium is so so important.

>> Yeah, I agree. I every time I've been on

any other show, I've mostly not mostly,

but you know, bigger shows, I tried to

hammer home the calcium piece a little

bit, but you know quite a bit more than

me. But you know, I just when you start

to research these enzymes and you start

to look at like that acetylcholine

piece, you know, memory, thinking,

blinking, you start to realize how much

more dynamic um these minerals are. And

and when you just like, you know, got

milk ads when you're just talking about

strong bones and you're like, it goes so

much deeper than that. And there's even

like the uh I bring up the the gut

issues where calcium is really good for

tight junctions in the gut, right? And

regulating pH as well. So I think it's

actually overlooked quite a bit for how

functional it is in the gut as well.

>> Yeah, that's one of its function is uh

balancing out the acid base balance

because it's a cation. So it's going to

make sure that we don't become acidic

because life's chemistry, we produce

acids, lactic acid, uric acid,

phosphoric acid, oxalate acids. We

produce acids, nucleic acids. So we got

to be able to deal with those acids and

calcium is a great buffer and so we got

to understand that just think of the

blood sugar issues if when that pancreas

and your eyelets of Langanger that are

making your insulin which requires zinc

to allow that protein to fold into that

three-dimensional shape but to release

the insulin in that's stored in the

vesicle calcium is the impetus that

untethers the vesicle to release the

insulin. So, it's releasing

neurotransmitters, it's releasing

hormones. So, that's the part people

don't think about. And that to me is one

of the most uh foundational pieces of

understanding calcium metabolism and its

job. Not just mineralizing or

demineralizing the bones. You know,

hopefully it's mineralizing the bones,

but sometimes when that calcium

metabolism is off because who regulates,

you know, what three hormones regulate

calcium? parathyroid hormone, vitamin D

and calcetonin. So parathyroid hormone

which is absolutely magnesium dependent.

So that's a big player because when you

have low serum calcium, low blood

calcium on a blood test, you know,

that's going to activate that somehow,

you know, the allseeing brain is going

to send a signal to your parathyroid.

And that parathyroid is going to it's

going to release parathyroid hormone

that's going to go to the kidneys. And

in the kidneys, it will tell the kidneys

to reabsorb the calcium so you don't

piss out the calcium. And then that

parathyroid hormone in the kidneys will

go to that alpha hydroxilase enzyme

that's in making your vitamin D that is

also magnesium dependent. And that al

that that alpha hydroxilase enzyme that

converts your your D into active D. Then

that active vitamin D will go to the

gut. When it goes to the gut, what's it

going to do in the gut? It's going to

increase the channel proteins. It's

going to give you, you know, once that

vitamin D goes to the gut, it's active

vitamin D goes to the gut and it opens

up these transport proteins to allow

blood calcium to get absorbed into an

interosite mostly happening in the dadum

so you can get the calcium in. Then it's

also that vitamin D is also going to

make the protein channels to get the

calcium into the blood. So that's one of

the functions of parathyroid hormone.

It's also going to make kelodulin and

that kelloduline will bind to the

calcium so you can build up the pool

because remember it has a charge. So if

it has a charge you want chemical

neutrality in a cell. So if all that

calcium is flooding in that will change

the pH so it immediately binds to the

calodulin to keep it chemical chemically

neutral so that calcium stores can be

built up. So the parathyroid and vitamin

D are huge, huge players in calcium

metabolism. This is why we got to be

careful with vitamin D supplementation.

And again, I'm not one to say never take

vitamin D. There's a time and place for

vitamin D. Absolutely. Especially when

we're in a four low pattern and we need

that vitamin D coming in. Especially if

we're in a four low pattern and we have

low serum calcium, you better believe

I'm going to put you on some, you know,

good doses of calcium and magnesium and

good doses of vitamin D. So, we got to

remember the magnesium component in this

magnesium is activating the vitamin D in

the liver on the 25th carbon. Then it's

activating the vitamin D in the kidneys

on the first carbon to give you 125 cholifa

cholifa

calcol or calcatriol. And so that's your

active vitamin D. Then that active

vitamin D it exerts its effect uh on a

genomic level. So when that active

vitamin D is made in the kidneys when it

goes to the gut it gets into the

interosite but you need the zinc finger

to get that vitamin D into the nucleus

so then it can be transcribed. You take

the you know the DNA into messenger RNA.

Then that messenger RNA will eventually

enter into a ribosome to be translated

into a protein and then that protein can

make the protein channels to get calcium

into the cell or that protein can make

the calodulin so you can bind the

calcium. So that's some of the, you

know, the amazing stuff of calcium and

how it's regulated via those hormones

and understanding that magnesium

component whether it's in the

parathyroid or in vitamin D. That

magnesium is a big big player in calcium metabolism.

metabolism.

>> Yeah, beautifully said. I actually

wanted to ask your thoughts on vitamin

D. you kind of already broke it down,

but I found that um most people do do

better on, you know, I do 5,000 IUs with

my clients and I actually see calcium

levels come down even with their when

they're taking the vitamin D, especially

because we're using obviously all of the

minerals to work with the entire system

uh because like the sodium and potassium

levels play a role there and we're

always tweaking those. But I find that

the mineral patterns do shift a little

bit better even if someone has a high

calcium level with vitamin D.

Personally, you may look at that a

little bit differently, but um I so I'm

kind of like I used to I was I've been

in both camps. Like I was like always

took vitamin D, then I went antivitamin

D and listened to all the arguments on

the other side. And then I've come back

around with mineral balancing where I've

noticed that vitamin D seems to work and

improve mineral levels quite a bit. And

I think um one thing I thought was

interesting is I I had mercury fillings.

That was kind of part of my healing and

my uh mineral balancing journey and

detoxification. And I do this other scan

called the iligo scan. So I don't know

exactly how accurate their vitamin

statuses are, but I've they have

fluctuated. And after I removed some

mercury, my vitamin D finally shot up on

that ilo skin. So I also think some of

the heavy metals also interact with how

we actually utilize some of that vitamin

D. So that's kind of I think the the

thought process on giving everyone

vitamin D. But you might look at that a

little bit differently. Let me know. You

know, if someone's really in a calcium

shell, what am I worried about?

Metastatic calcium. So, metastatic

doesn't mean cancer. Every disease is

going to metastasize. Let's say you have

a sore throat. That sore throat can

metastasize to an ear infection. It can

go into the sinus as a sinus infection.

It can metastasize to the lungs. So that

metastatic calcium can metastasize to

where you don't want it to go. That's a

big deal. So we got to understand this

metastatic calcium when it when it

deposits where you don't want it to go.

That becomes all your deposition

diseases. That could be the gall stones,

the kidney stones. That could be the

plaquing in the arteries and the veins.

That could be the the cataracts. That

can be plaquing in the brain. That could

be a lot of that calcium deposition into

the joints that we call arthritis. All

these arthritic conditions when you see

the bunions and the bone deformities,

that's calcium laying down, but it's

laying down not the way it should be.

So, who's regulating the bones? It's the

osteoblast and the osteoclass that are

that are modulating the calcium in the

bones. And so, that is a part of that

vitamin D. What's interesting is when

you think of that uh vitamin D how or

how parathyroid hormone affects the

vitamin D but parathyroid hormone when

it affects the kidneys with calcium uh

directly you're going to you're going to

reabsorb the calcium what are you

pissing out when you when that

parathyroid hits the kidneys you're

reabsorbing the calcium but you're

pissing out the phosphate because the

calcium phosphate at that you know

that's is what makes that's hydroxy

appatite that's you know crystals if

that crystal is in the blood that's

going to crystallize the blood. So we

got to so that's why the kidneys will

excrete out the u the phosphate while

retaining the calcium. So if we have

this buildup of metastatic calcium, it

can affect absolutely every

physiological function in the in the

body that we call deposition disease.

And that deposition disease is going to

get us all in the end. From a esoteric

point of view, they call that Saturn Sat

Saturn Saturn alien diseases. That's

diseases of Saturn. Saturn is, you know,

governs calcium. It's the the metal of

calcium is lead. The metal of Saturn is

lead and calcium. And so one is a toxic

metal. One is a nutrient metal. So that

when that calcium goes rogue, that's

Saturn. That's father time. That's

aging. That's death and darkness. Saturn

is furthest from the sun. So it's cold.

It's distant. It's dark. It's father

time. It's aging. It's death. So our

whole goal in mineral balancing is to

keep calcium in check and help to

regulate and modulate calcium with

understanding the mineral grid so that

calcium doesn't precipitate out of

solution and become all your deposition

diseases that get us all in the end.

That's why when I see a high shell, I'm

not going to be giving vitamin D per se

because I know that that calcium is

depositing where it shouldn't be

depositing and it's not depositing in a

good structural manner in the bones.

Hopefully that made sense.

>> Yeah. Yeah, I get it. And it makes

sense. It seems like even with my

calcium shell clients, if I if I work

the entire system, I can still get that

level to come down um without much

issues. So, I mean, different strokes,

different folks. I I get the ideology of

it, but I've just seen with clients and

where where the calcium shell will still

come down even when I'm given vitamin D.

But that's also because we're we're now

there's a couple things you touched on

that we should, you know, break down.

One, you have to be bringing in calcium

and magnesium in the right ratio in that

supplement form, which I think there's a

little bit of back and forth like Dr.

Paul has this 1.6:1 ratio. Um, a lot of

people use 2:1. And I think there's

argument for, you know, anywhere from

like 1.6 to maybe 2.2 or so to one. Um,

anything, you know, so there's

definitely more science kind of shows

like a 2:1, but Dr. Paul has used that

1.6. So over at Veilance, we kind of

stuck with that. But, um, maybe people

do need a little bit more magnesium in

today's world with the magnesium burn

rate and stuff like that. So, what what

kind of ratio do you like with the

calcium and why is that ratio important

as well? You know it it is very

important because we know that magnesium

is very antagonized by a lot of these

toxic metals and especially when we look

at ATP when that three phosphates the

adenos and triphosphate that magnesium

is keeping those phosphates so those

electrons can keep flowing in that

electron transport chain and just we

know that many of these toxic metals can

bully out um the magnesium and then that

slows down the production of ATP. So, I

think that that ratio should be about,

you know, again, it's going to vary. I

usually will go about, you know, a 2:1

ratio where it's always a little bit

more magnesium than calcium. But that

will vary depending on the mineral

pattern. You know, if I see, you know, a

low uh calcium magnesium ratio, maybe I

got to give equal amounts of calcium.

you know, maybe if I see that high

calcium, low magnesium, maybe I'm going

to go to a 3:1 magnesium to calcium

ratio. So, I always keep flexibility in

when I'm prescribing minerals depending

on what I see and how someone responds

to calcium, how someone responds to

magnesium, because you've heard stories

where people just have horrible, you

know, when they take magnesium, it

provokes a lot of weird symptoms in them

and then they freak out about that. But

that's just telling me that your body is

is really crying for the magnesium. Even

though it may cause some weird symptom

as the chemistry gets adjusted to the

magnesium, it's dealing with all the

layers, all the suppression that we've

gone through. But magnesium, when you

think of when you think of death, what

do we call death? Rigor mortise, right?

Okay. What is rigger mortise? That's

when all the calcium floods in. So

that's because the spark of life

magnesium is no longer there to oppose

calcium. So when you die, the spark of

life of magnesium can't oppose calcium.

So when you're dead, all the calcium

channels are open. And then we call that

rigger mortise. That's a that's a stiff

corpse. And that's because magnesium is

no longer there to oppose the calcium.

And that's what we call death. That's

why Saturn, calcium, father, time, death

and darkness. Where magnesium is the

sun. And that's the age-old battle

between the sun and Saturn, between

Jesus and Satan, good and darkness, good

and evil, light and darkness, so forth

and so on. So, I'm a big fan of getting

that right combination of the calcium

and magnesium depending on what I see on

their reports.

>> Interesting. So you you flux it a little

bit depending on what the ratio is. Interesting.

Interesting. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Mhm. Absolutely.

>> That would make a little bit. There are

some patterns where if I see a a really

really skewed calcium to magnesium

ratio, I'll add in a little extra

magnesium. So I'm not totally just stuck

on one ideology for sure. I think there

are time and place where some people

could use a little extra magnesium on

top of the Calmax supplement that I'm

already um giving to them as well. So

there's definitely case by case basis as

you're looking through the stuff or or

if I sometimes I'll just start with the

cal mag and sometimes they respond

really quickly to that and then I'm like

okay they can just do that but if they

kind of hit a plateau or they get stuck

with that kind of um extreme elevation

in the cal mag ratio then that's where I

might pull out you know little extra

magnesium from bioptimizers or something

like that to try to see if we can't get

that to kind of balance a little bit

more. Um because I do think there are,

you know, there's so many things in

today's world that are different than

even Dr. Paul X world from, you know,

EMFs and just we're looking at screens

all day. I mean, there's a lot going on

um that can um potentially maybe maybe

we're burning through more magnesium or

maybe it's messing with that calcium

flux. I know EMFs are pretty big on

messing with those uh calcium gated ion

channels and stuff like that. Would do

you think EMFs play a role in in how

calcium is regulated?

>> Sure. You know, because when you look

at, you know, the sodium, the gated

sodium channels, the gadium potassium

channels, the gated calcium channels,

it's all an electrical grid. We're an

electrical body. So understanding all

the electrical frequencies, you know,

whether it's coming from the phones or

whether it's coming from, you know, the

radiation out in the atmosphere, it's

affecting the mineral grid on some way

or some level. And I always say that

magnesium is the quarterback in the

mineral matrix. So that's why I put a

little bit more emphasis on magnesium

because magnesium is the sun. Everything

rotates around the sun. So that's why I

say everything rotates around magnesium

in us. So that's why I I put a little

bit more emp emphasis on magnesium

knowing how the metals, the radiation,

the chemicals, the glyphosates all

chelate out magnesium. It chilates out

other minerals, but magnesium is

affected profoundly by the toxins we're

bombarded with in this day and age. So

that's why I'll put a little bit more of

a spotlight on magnesium. And then I'll

use magnesium as a tissue salt, too. So,

you know, I'll use many tissue salts to

help add intelligence into the mineral

matrix, whether I'm using the calcium

family of tissue salts or the magnesium

family or whatever, just to add

intelligence from an energetic perspective.

perspective.

Yeah, the the tissue salts I still never

gotten into, but what I've been doing um

actually lately with some clients

because some of the veilance products

that we put out are as you know that we

use like the most bioavailable form. So

obviously they're they're you know

they're stronger. Mineral balancing

without veillance is already strong

because you're kind of starting to turn

on all these systems all at once. We're

helping the liver, the kidneys, you

know, all these enzymes fluctuating

sodium potassium ratio. We're doing so

much all at once. So, I've been doing

kind of where just telling clients in

the beginning if they're sensitive and I

can tell that they're going to be

sensitive due to their intake or

whatever just to break the capsules open

and just sprinkle a little bit in water

and it's almost like it's not

homeopathic technically, but it's kind

of like just getting the body used to

the energy of those minerals coming in.

And if they just kind of do that a few

times throughout the day where they're

not even taking one capsule of

everything, just kind of these micro

doses over time, they start to, you

know, build up the tolerance and next

thing you know, they're on a couple caps

a day. you know, they start to build up

to those full doses over time. So, I've

been kind of using not tissue salts, but

in a way kind of like a micro dose, not

not quite homeopathic, but you know,

definitely a micro dose of the minerals

in the beginning. Yeah, that's brilliant

because you just can't come in with

heroic doses of a mineral to the

sensitive ones because that's going to,

you know, then they'll get sick and then

they'll never want to take a mineral

again. So, you start micro doing the

crude dose of the mineral. So, I have a

stroke patient who can't take anything.

You know, a he can't swallow. Um, and so

he's he he's a mess on many many levels.

But what I have him doing, I have him

taking the liquid zinc and he's just

putting one drop in his water. Now,

that's, you know, you need a full

teaspoon to get one dose zinc. So, we're

micro doing the zinc while I'm giving

him the tissue salt, zinc chloride as a

tissue salt and then I'm giving him

mostly tissue salts because he can't

swallow pills and he can't handle the

taste. So, he's very sensitive and just

giving him micro doses of the minerals,

a little bit of calcium, a little

magnesium, a little zinc and micro dose

while coming in with the tissue salts.

He's been able to get like full nights

of sleep and really stabilize. He I

mean, he's miles away from perfect, but

his symptoms have incre have improved

dramatically just being able to not piss

every two minutes when he's in bed. Just

being able to get a full eight hours of

sleep, that to me is a home run on that

alone. Granted, we got a lot more work

to do, but micro doing the minerals,

coming in with the tissue salts has been

my way of improving him. You know,

again, the improvement is small, but

these are the little baby steps we take.

So, I love your strategy with micro

doing of the crude mineral, you know, to

the sensitive patients. I think that's beautiful.

beautiful.

>> Yeah, I've been starting people on one

dose a day, you know, Dr. PC and the old

mind frame was like three doses a day,

sometimes two. Um, so I've been kind of

just just telling everybody to start

with one and then if they're even

sensitive just to the one dose a day,

then I'm like, okay, now we're going to

go into this micro doing phase. Um,

because people you just like you said,

they start to get bloated, feel

terrible. The you're just doing so much

all at once with mineral balancing and

it's like, okay, let's see what we can

do. And usually the clients um who do

the micro doses, they don't get as bad

as those like early detox symptoms and

they kind of just get into a rhythm like

you said, they start to notice some

benefits but without really disrupting

the system. And I agree with you, we

still have a ways to go. You shouldn't

be that sensitive to the minerals. We're

going to have to build up over time, but

taking it low and slow and not rocking

the boat too fast has kind of been some

of one of my one of I just realize how

toxic people are in today's world

compared to what probably it used to be.

And um not everybody's as crazy as me. I

would just take full doses of the

minerals all the time and never care and

just do the enemas and the sauna. I was

like, "Oh, I didn't care how bad I

felt." But I I like looking back, I'm

like, clients don't want to feel like

that. Like the way I was feeling for the

first couple years, like clients do not

want to feel like that at all. So, you

got to kind of, you know, meet them

where they're at.

>> Yeah. Especially children. You know,

when you give some zinc or copper to

children, it causes the nausea, the

stomach cramping, the horrible metallic

taste. They hate taking zinc. They hate

taking copper. So I had this family of

three kids where their zinc was at five,

one kid was at five, one zinc was at

six, one was at seven. Five, six, seven

for the three kids. I couldn't give them

zinc and crude dose, but I did give them

zinc as a tissue salt. And then when I

retested them, it was actually on the

not the second retest, but the third

test about a year later, their zinc went

from a five to an eight. One went from a

seven to a 10. One went from, you know,

uh, a seven to 11 ju without giving them

zinc. Only the tissue salt, zinc

chloride as a tissue salt, because they

couldn't take it. So, just moving the

needle on zinc when it's that critically

low and we know how important zinc is

for, you know, for everything. Now,

here's a test question for you.

According to the international unit,

international biochemistry that

establishes the the excuse me, the

enzymes, there's six classes of enzymes.

What's the only mineral that's in all

six classes of enzymes according to the

International Biochemistry Union?

>> I would have to guess zinc.

>> Zinc, it's the only mineral.

>> When you research zinc, it's unlimited.

>> So, it's going to be in in redux

chemistry. like hydrolaces

and you know uh all the six classes the

isomerases so zinc is an allstar for all

six classes of enzymes and when you know

how important that zinc is and they and

the kids can't take it that's where I

love those tissue salts for increasing

you know the intelligence of zinc metabolism

metabolism

have you ever looked into um you sound

like you use some liquid but I there's

uh some liquid nanos that I like and

they don't have much of a taste which

has been cool. I give some of them to my

son. He can't taste them at all. Like I

give him the iodine, the selenium. It's

called upgraded formulas. I had Barton

on my show before. I don't agree with

some of his ratios on some of his

products, but like the standalones like

zinc or copper um or selenium, if you're

trying to give those in singularity and

you just want to do like a micro dose or

a few drops like I'm doing with my son,

those are really great because they

can't taste them at all. I don't know

what he's done to the taste. And they're

also in nano form, which um you know,

obviously he clearly says that they're

more bioavailable that way because

they're like ultra nano. Um so those

have been cool. I've used some of those

with kids and it seems like they can get

past the taste a little bit. And cuz I

do think the the more metallic, the kind

of zinc and the copper are the ones that

they can taste the most. It seems like

if I give my kid calcium calm mag, he

doesn't really care. But um some of

these other kids when they get into the

zinc and the coppers, they can taste

Yeah. Um I I use a lot of liquid

minerals, especially with children,

especially with the elders because, you

know, they're they're compromised. They

they have a hard time swallowing. You

know, the seniors can't swallow the

pills. The children hate swallowing.

They hate the taste. So, yes, I use a

lot of the liquid minerals with certain

populations. And so I'm not familiar

with the brand or that you're

highlighting, but yes, I personally will

use a lot of the liquid minerals in

certain populations. And again, starting

with micro dosing just to start building

up the grid.

>> Yeah, that's where where I think it

comes into play really well for kids who

don't want to taste it. And then also

for if you want just like a micro dose,

especially with those nanos, you kind of

got to go lower anyways because the

bioavailability is really good. Uh, one

thing I wanted to touch on was um the

sodium to potassium levels on the hair

test and how those affect calcium.

Because I think when we're um just

talking about calcium and calcium

supplementation, someone may be like,

"Oh, sounds like I just need more

calcium, but they're not actually

working with the entire HTMA and working

with the entire system." So, how

important are getting those sodium and

potassium levels in the right range and

in the right ratio to calcium

utilization as well? It's huge, you

know. Um, that's why they call sodium

potassium the life or death ratio. I

don't know if they use that term

anymore. Um, you know, but it it is just

that. And so sodium and potassium set

that whole electrical grid for the for

the body, you know, that starts the

whole wave of depolarization.

You know, that's the electrical body we

are. So understanding how important

sodium and potassium are in the body and

how that's affecting all the whole thing

because sodium potassium are keeping the

calcium and magnesium in solution so it

doesn't precipitate out of solution and

when those minerals precipitate out of

solution that you know they're going to

bind to something you know whether it's

an oxalate causing a kidney stone

whether it's a phosphate causing the

hydroxyappatite in the bone bones to be

disregulated causing the great

calcification the arthritic bones. So

sodium potassium are critical. That's

why we understand zinc effect on sodium,

copper's effect on sodium and

understanding maganese effect on sodium

and then understanding how important

that sodium potassium ratio is with

those two macro minerals calcium and

magnesium. in calcium and magnesium. All

excitable tissues. You know, when a

muscle contracts, that's calcium. When

it relaxes, that's magnesium. Whether

it's in a skeletal muscle, heart muscle,

or smooth muscle. Look at all the smooth

muscles, you know, whether it's, you

know, the uterus when women get their

horrible period cramps. That's a calcium dysregulation

dysregulation

and or a magnesium deficiency causing

the horrible cramping in the menstrual

cycle. And that's going on 24/7. And

that's going to be copper related as

well because during the menstrual cycle,

we know that copper is a big big player

in the estrogens. And so when when we

are in a copper overload, calcium is

going to go high to kind of protect you

from the ravages of copper because

copper is, you know, it's the most

emotional mineral. It's the most

electrical nutrient mineral. So when we

think of who moves electrons better than

anything, it's copper. That's why

electricians use copper wiring. We know

silver is the best conductor of

electrons bar none. But silver is not a

nutrient mineral. The next best one is

copper. So we know how powerful copper

is in moving the electrons. And copper

in a copper overload, that's going to

raise the calcium. So calcium can kind

of buffer the effects of that high

energy of copper. So there are huge

relationships which makes mineral

balancing to me one of the greatest

sciences we have to help regulate the

mineral grid so we can slow down you

know calcium metabolism going rogue so

we don't get all the Saturn diseases the

deposition diseases that will get us all

in the end. So yes, ratios are

absolutely important.

>> Yeah, the ratios between everything

matter a lot and it's all these other

minerals that have to come into play

with it and you know even you know when

the calcium goes low and the magnesium

goes low and then you have that high

sodium potassium and you're looking at a

more fast oxidizer state that's when we

bring even in a little bit higher levels

of calcium. We're trying to get that

calcium to go back up with that copper.

And so people don't realize how like

intertwined all the minerals are. They

just kind of look at it at a very base

level. They don't understand like I, you

know, I'll get some reports of people in

fast oxidation coming from a different,

you know, practitioner or program and

they don't have any calcium on their

fast oxidizer program. Sometimes they

won't have any copper. I'm like, I I

don't understand what what exactly

they're trying to achieve here. I'm not

trying to knock anyone, but I'm like, I

don't think that certain practitioners

sometimes understand all of the the

reasons why certain nutrients are given

to different oxidation rates and for to

try to balance out the ratios and to to

kind of raise things, but that copper is

really critical for calcium as well.

>> Absolutely. You know, and I always say

why why do we think uh copper is the

most disregulated metal in all of human

physiology? Because to me, you know, you

see so many copper dysregulation

problems and that dysregulation could be

a copper deficiency. It could be bio

unavailable copper, you know, where the

copper is there but it just can't be

utilized. And so we see that copper is

the most disregulated metal in all of

human physiology. And you know, my three

main reasons why is because a we're in

the bronze age, which is 90% copper.

We've been in the Iron Age for the last

2,000 plus years. We've just

transitioned into the bronze age. So

copper will be the leading lady in this

epoch. So that's on an energetic level.

Then we're running our pipes through

copper piping. So we're getting that

free ionic copper from the copper piping

where it's bypassing digestion. it's

getting immediately absorbed into the

blood. And then to me, the third most uh

pressing area why we got a copper

dysregulation is because of all the fake

estrogens. So when you look at all the

fake estrogens, the xenoestrogens,

metalloestrogens, the glyphosates, the

atrizines, the BPAs, all those mimic

estrogen and that as they mimic

estrogen, it causes copper retention. So

when you add up the normal age related

estrogens, then the phytoestrogens that

we get from food, typically the body can

handle that. But then you throw in the

impostors, the fake xenoestrogens that

tips the scale to an estrogen dominant

population that causes copper retention.

And that copper retention is going to be

the devil if we don't deal with it

because of its ability to create

hydroxal radicals of the worst kind. So

that's why I believe that copper is the

most disregulated metal because of the

bronze age because of the water the

copper piping and because of all the

fake estrogens causing to me the number

one disregulated metal of copper.

>> Yeah, I agree. It's it's funny the you

know I you know wanted to stick on

calcium but I got to sidetrack a lot of

the kind of spiritual energetic

community they're getting into like

literally using copper for all of their

drinking you know they're drinking water

they got these giant copper tins and

because of the energetic properties and

I'm like you probably don't want to do

that you know maybe back in the day that

was okay but with the amount of

disregulated copper that we see come out

of clients I'm sure you see it a lot and

I know you've talked about your journey

with with a lot of bio unavailable

copper coming out in your own journey.

You told us on the on the last show. Um

I'm like I don't think bringing in, you

know, drinking all of your water out of

these copper mugs and jugs, these old

artisian looking they look really cool

and fancy and I'm sure the energetics

are there. Um but to be drinking all of

your water out of that I think is harmful.

harmful.

>> I agree. I mean there's a time and place

for everything. So in most of the in

most of our population because of the

copper overload, I'm going to respect

copper. So I'm not going to really go

crazy with, you know, drinking copper or

wearing copper bracelets. Although I'll

wear silver brace bracelets cuz I love

silver. Um, but you know, sometimes you

can wear a copper bracelet for arthritic

pains. We've heard of that through the

ages. And there is truth in that because

that copper is helping with the collagen

synthesis and the you know the cross

linking of the collagen so the bones

aren't going all over the place so you

have integrity you know and strength in

your connective tissues. So there is a

place for that because copper in its

ability and its love affair with oxygen

we have to respect it because copper's

end game is going to be um when we look

at copper its end game is apoptosis. So

apoptosis is programmed cell death. So

with the cancer apoptosis isn't working.

So then the cells keep you know growing

and dividing growing and dividing until

you have a you know a a cancer lesion.

Then the other end of the spectrum is

when apoptosis works too quick too fast

and that's all your brain diseases

killing the neurons in your brain. That

could be the Parkinson's the MS that

could be you know all the brain sility

diseases and stuff like that. So if we

don't deal with copper today, its

endgame is a a disregulated apoptosis

where if it's if it's too fast, we get

the cancers or if it doesn't work, we

get the cancers. If it's too fast, we

get the brain diseases. So th that's

where copper's endgame is profound. And

this is why understanding copper, you

know, so we don't, you know, so we're

not a pennywise pound foolish and we

take the copper and it gets the energy

going and it's like a heavy metal

creating a a stimulant in us and we feel

good taking it temporarily until the

reserves build up where it oxidizes

everything in its pathway.

>> Yeah. The the other um trend I would say

before I'll jump back to calcium in just

a second, but the other trend that I

think is potentially harmful um is

eating tons and tons of beef liver in

today's um space. There's a lot of

copper in there and I think if you have

that low sodium potassium ratio, I think

you're probably going to feel good on

that for a period of time. But there is

definitely a potential for that copper

overload to happen. If you start eating

two, three, 4 ounces a day, watching

these liver king videos and every

supplement that you take has, you know,

raw like liver caps and people are doing

both. They're like having raw liver

smoothies and then they're doing liver

capsules on top of it. And I used to be

kind of in that camp where I took a lot

of uh beef liver myself um until I got

into mineral balancing. But that's

another trend that I think um without

you know at least checking your HGMA

periodically and paying attention uh

where you could end up with some copper

overload. Even though liver is very

nutritious and I love I love it. I just

think people are kind of overdoing it.

>> Yeah. When you look at most of the farm

animals, are they drinking clean water?

No. Most of your antibiotics go into

every farm animal, whether it's

grass-fed, organic, or this. By FDA law,

they, you know, they're most of your 50%

of all your antibiotics are going into

your farm animals again, whether they're

organic or not. So, we're getting all

these xenoestrogens. We're getting all

this copper. So, the liver is the last

thing I would ever want to eat because

that's where most of the blood is going,

most of the toxins are going. So, the

last thing, unless it's a game, you

know, a wild hunted animal that isn't on

a farm, then I know that they're going

to be clean and safe and the liver will

be good. But if you're just getting

local whatever farm animal of liver to

me, it's going to be very toxic because

the the liver is doing the

detoxification. And so, you know, are

you feeding that animal, you know, pure

pristine water? No, you're not. you

know, you're giving them the fluoridated

tap water with all the chemicals and

garbage in it. So, I'm not a big fan of

liver unless it's coming from game.

>> Yeah, that that's another thing that I

think um is overlooked in farming. I

talk about farming quite a bit on my

show is I don't bring this up much, but

even grass-fed, they're usually have

water. So sometimes it's coming from a

stream or you know some kind of spring

if depending on the location of the farm

but a lot of these farmers are just

giving them water and are they spending

thousands and thousands of dollars on

high quality filtration? You know how

many gallons like cows you need for

water? Like you need a pretty heavy duty

filtration um to give them really clean

pristine likeur you know clean water.

And so you you're going to get all of

the all of whatever depending on your

locality, municipality, what's in there,

but pretty much all of them are

terrible. They're using aluminum in

there. There fluoride in there. There's

just whatever different drugs that

people pee out are in there. Tap water's

crazy. So that your cow is going to be

like this. So that's why you have to be

uh it took us a while to find um some

some quality bone powder over at

Veilance that would didn't have u didn't

have alarming uh amounts of lead in

them. And these are even like grass-fed

bone powders. You know, they still have

quite a bit of lead coming from that

bone powder. So you have to be, you

know, pretty particular about some of

your sourcing as well. And the the guy

up the street who doesn't use

antibiotics and does grass-fed, that

doesn't necessarily mean he's filtering

the tap water,

>> right? that see that's a big thing that

goes under the radar and still every you

know the FDA is still regulating you

know the organic farms the non-organic

farms and they're all you know just if

you're going to take your dog out to the

park your dog still has to have the the

the tags meaning it's been to the vet

and it's had this shot and that shot and

this shot or you can't walk your dog in

the city you know the same thing with

all the farm animals so you know this is

you know these you know what they're

injecting these animals with. Even if

they're organic, they're still being

infiltrated with some of this garbage.

Of course, it's a lot better than, you

know, the organic is a thousand times

better than the nonorganic, but still

there's still an exposure of the

chemicals and the metals and the bad

drinking water that they're being

exposed to. So, yes, that has to be

calculated into what we're taking. So,

coming back to just the liver, that's

why I'm not a big fan of eating liver

from an animal unless I've hunted the

animal myself.

>> Good for you. Okay, I want to circle

back to the calcium and talk about some

of the calcium issues here or just kind

of some more blanket questions that are

I'm sure people are wondering. Like, do

you have a recommended like RDA on

calcium? I'm sure it's obviously

fluctuates with sensitive clients. they

can't take as much of any mineral. But,

you know, for the average human who's

relatively healthy, I I find it

interesting the the argument around not,

you know, not supplementing calcium when

the RDA is, you know, which we usually

say is pretty low. We take well over the

RDA of zinc, well over the RDA of

magnesium, of iod of pretty much every

mineral across the board. But then when

it comes to calcium, some people aren't

even eating dairy and they're like, "Oh,

I don't need a calcium supplement." when

the RDA is actually 1,200 milligrams per

day, which is actually, you know, kind

of hard to achieve unless you're

pounding like a bunch of raw dairy,

unless you're taking a supplement. And

and if so, if we're going by the same

kind of level playing field that the RDA

is low, I would think that maybe even

the RDA for calcium is low. What's your

thoughts around like, you know,

milligram dosage per day on calcium? You

know, I I don't remember the milligrams

off the top of my head, but I'm pretty

aggressive with calcium and magnesium

all day long. So, what's the RDA? It's

like 1,000 milligrams. You know, I know

it's going to be for growing kids, it's

going to be a little bit more. Pregnant,

it's going to be, you know, a little bit more.

more.

>> I think it's around 1,200 for calcium. I

can't remember magnesium, but

>> I'm usually, you know, anywhere from I'm

probably about tripling that dose.

>> You know,

>> you're going up that high.

So, it could be, again, triple would be

like on the high end, but it's going to

be anywhere from, you know, a,000

milligram supplementation to 2,000 to

3,000 milligrams of supplementation. So,

when when the body wants that calcium

and you're not giving it to it from a

nutritional perspective, whether diet or

supplement, the it's going to go to the

bone. It's going to start osteoclastic.

it's going to start breaking down the

bone to get the calcium into the blood.

So, we don't want to mess with the

bones. You know, the bones are one of

the most important things. You know, the

bones, you know, that's where your

marrow is, that's your immune system,

that's the, you know, it's got

everything your from the white blood

cells, the red blood cells. So, the

bones are a big big deal. The last thing

you want to do is go to the bones to

start, you know, breaking down bone to

get that calcium out. So, I think

supplementation is important. And I'll

go pretty aggressive with calcium

depending on, you know, do I see low

blood calcium? Do I see, you know, a

four low? Do I see um, you know, high,

you know, high sodium potassium, low

calcium, magnesium? So, I can go pretty

aggressive with my calcium depending on

what I see. Did I answer that question?

>> Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I just think

that with um you know, a lot of clients

you you are shuttling out some of those

they have so much lead and you know,

cadmium and stuff in them that sometimes

it just pushes out um at least I found

that with the with the with our veilance

subs it can push out metals a little too

fast. So, you do have to kind of still

start it low. But I think the goal is to

to pretty much increase I take a pretty

hefty amount of our Calmac Fusion per

day. I would say far over the RDA and I

even like to drink my local raw A2 milk

as well and have yogurt.

>> How much do you go over the RDA?

>> Um I find that with the bioavailability

of Calac Fusion I can be at like 1,500

maybe 2,000 but then I also got a little

bit of raw milk coming in. I also weigh

225 lbs. I don't know. I mean I I think

that matters. Some people don't, but I'm

like I'm I'm definitely twice the size

of my wife. So, I would think that I

would need more calcium coming in to

kind of complete all of my bone

structures and all of my enzymes. So, I

kind of do feel like I'm on the higher

end of what people do, but also I

probably couldn't have took that dose

when I first started. It would have

probably shattered me, you know. So, I

think I was at like 600 milligrams or so

in the beginning. Um, you know, and some

and some like sardines and raw dairy. So

obviously some more coming in through

diet and the more I detox and the more I

push things out then I could increase

it. I just have to keep it a little bit

lower for some clients especially with

that that KAC Fusion seems to be our

strongest supplement. Um that's that's

the one that rocks the boat. I don't

know if it's that orate that's in there

or what what's going on but uh if I go

too high on that every every client will

quit the program. So I do take that into

into accountability as well.

>> And again I always like to start low

build them up. So, you have to see how

people are going to respond to whatever

mineral supplement you're giving them.

You have to see how they respond and

then you can increase the dose as they

get acclimated to whatever you're giving

them. So, I do like that approach. Start

easy, build them up, and just see how

they're responding, you know, and

everyone's going to react a little bit

differently. And so, do you use blood to

look at calcium as well?

>> I don't use blood as much. I when I was

really sick, I got a lot of blood work

that didn't get me very far. I know you

I think there are some good markers

there. I have heard that, you know, I

don't know if this is true. You look at

more blood than me. Maybe you could

speak on it, but the blood calcium

usually looks pretty good because of

that kind of ideology that we can kind

of keep leeching it from bone. Do you do

you find that the calcium stays pretty

regulated in blood or do you see

imbalances there?

>> I see a lot of low calcium in the blood. >> Wow.

>> Wow.

>> Yeah. So that's why, you know, so I'm

looking at the functional ranges on the

blood test and I'm seeing a lot of

people, you know, when their, you know,

blood chemistry comes back, I'm seeing

low calcium, you know, and then I may

see low calcium and high vitamin D on a

blood test, you know, so that's telling

me that, you know, the vitamin D isn't

being activated properly because of a

magnesium deficiency, because of a zinc

deficiency. And so I like to always look

at the blood levels of where things are

at so I get a perspective so I can you

know correlate that to the hair test and

then I have more information coming to

me. You know then you look at you know

if someone has that high insulin and and

they got the low calcium remember you

need that calcium to untether the

vesicle that stores the insulin. So

that's why you want to be able to look

at, you know, multiple perspectives,

whether it's blood, hair, urine, you

know, stool, so we get a good variety of

different markers that help to paint a

biochemical picture of where someone is at.

at.

>> Yeah, I agree. And you know, it's so

some people make the argument that, you

know, I do love raw dairy. I think it's

high bioavailability

as far as the calcium goes, right, in

that ionic form. I think it's utilized

really, really well. And but to, you

know, when you start to try to get into

some of the dosages that we're talking

about here, it's it's a a lot of

calories. So hopefully you got a good uh

got a good workout program going on

because I'm looking at like milligrams

of calcium and how much like calories

I'm going to put in from milk to try to

achieve that. It's it's quite

remarkable. Um so it's pretty high on

the calorie route, but also a lot of clients can't even tolerate not even raw

clients can't even tolerate not even raw dairy. They can they like go out of

dairy. They can they like go out of their way sometimes. I'm sure you see

their way sometimes. I'm sure you see this if they're in burnout and you know

this if they're in burnout and you know they got a lot of symptoms going on they

they got a lot of symptoms going on they they have trouble digesting the dairy so

they have trouble digesting the dairy so you can't even really you can't rely on

you can't even really you can't rely on that anyways. Um so I think that you

that anyways. Um so I think that you know that's where the calcium

know that's where the calcium supplementation is really critical.

supplementation is really critical. >> Yeah. I mean you know most people you

>> Yeah. I mean you know most people you know their stomachs aren't making the

know their stomachs aren't making the stomach acid the pancreatic juices

stomach acid the pancreatic juices aren't pumping out the pancreatic

aren't pumping out the pancreatic juices. The liver and the bile is all

juices. The liver and the bile is all stagnant. So our digestion is

stagnant. So our digestion is compromised on many many ways. So that

compromised on many many ways. So that means that when we're taking some raw

means that when we're taking some raw stuff, we don't have the enzymes to

stuff, we don't have the enzymes to really break the stuff down, then we get

really break the stuff down, then we get symptom A, B, and C. Meanwhile, we got

symptom A, B, and C. Meanwhile, we got stagnant livers. And when the liver is

stagnant livers. And when the liver is stagnant and starting to calcify, then

stagnant and starting to calcify, then that can affect the pancreas because the

that can affect the pancreas because the pancreas and the liver are connected at

pancreas and the liver are connected at the common bile duct. So a lot of the

the common bile duct. So a lot of the gall stones can get into the into the

gall stones can get into the into the pancreas causing a pancreatitis you

pancreas causing a pancreatitis you know. So these are the things that we

know. So these are the things that we start to look at how do we improve

start to look at how do we improve calcium metabolism fix digestion you

calcium metabolism fix digestion you know fixing digestion on many levels

know fixing digestion on many levels from detoxification because you got to

from detoxification because you got to get the glyphosate out. You got to get

get the glyphosate out. You got to get the metals out. You got to start getting

the metals out. You got to start getting that zinc on board so you can actually

that zinc on board so you can actually make stomach acid. You need that zinc to

make stomach acid. You need that zinc to make your pancreatic juices. So without

make your pancreatic juices. So without the zinc, a lot of the the digestive

the zinc, a lot of the the digestive functions are compromised. And then if

functions are compromised. And then if we don't have that stomach acid, that

we don't have that stomach acid, that stomach acid, you know, is important for

stomach acid, you know, is important for breaking up, you know, so if you have,

breaking up, you know, so if you have, you know, taking in calcium and it's

you know, taking in calcium and it's chelated to a protein, you got to be

chelated to a protein, you got to be able to free that calcium from the

able to free that calcium from the protein with the stomach acid. So when

protein with the stomach acid. So when it goes into the small intestine then

it goes into the small intestine then you know the proteasis can start

you know the proteasis can start breaking it down even more. But having

breaking it down even more. But having good digestive function is one of the

good digestive function is one of the most important aspects of mineral

most important aspects of mineral balancing.

balancing. Yeah. It's quite remarkable how much of

Yeah. It's quite remarkable how much of you know going back you know dairy is

you know going back you know dairy is just one of the of the kind of common

just one of the of the kind of common food allergies that I see clients get

food allergies that I see clients get rid of if they if they stay on the

rid of if they if they stay on the program long enough. But you'll see I

program long enough. But you'll see I know one of my good friends she got rid

know one of my good friends she got rid of her shrimp shrimp allergy. She's a

of her shrimp shrimp allergy. She's a fellow practitioner. I've seen I've seen

fellow practitioner. I've seen I've seen gluten intolerances go away. Now, gluten

gluten intolerances go away. Now, gluten is just terrible in America. Like I buy

is just terrible in America. Like I buy local sourdough, but you know, if you're

local sourdough, but you know, if you're not doing that and you don't really know

not doing that and you don't really know who's making your bread, it's probably

who's making your bread, it's probably awful. So, that's a whole different

awful. So, that's a whole different story, but you know, I do see like

story, but you know, I do see like people being able to enjoy dessert out

people being able to enjoy dessert out at restaurants here and there or even

at restaurants here and there or even pasteurized dairy if they stay on the

pasteurized dairy if they stay on the program long enough. And it's just kind

program long enough. And it's just kind of wild how once we start to get into

of wild how once we start to get into that burnout and we become so mineral

that burnout and we become so mineral depleted and imbalanced that we can't

depleted and imbalanced that we can't even begin to digest foods. I was I

even begin to digest foods. I was I could only eat like four or five foods

could only eat like four or five foods when I was super sick because everything

when I was super sick because everything I was reacting to veggies and dairy and

I was reacting to veggies and dairy and I couldn't eat eggs. It was it was

I couldn't eat eggs. It was it was crazy. I was like what I got like four

crazy. I was like what I got like four foods here that I can eat every day.

foods here that I can eat every day. >> Yeah. You see as people get healthier,

>> Yeah. You see as people get healthier, you know, then they're able to

you know, then they're able to reintroduce foods that they couldn't

reintroduce foods that they couldn't have that were, you know, verboten. They

have that were, you know, verboten. They can't have it. So they avoided it. But

can't have it. So they avoided it. But as they get healthy, as as the liver

as they get healthy, as as the liver improves, the pancreas improves, the

improves, the pancreas improves, the stomach improves, the minerals are

stomach improves, the minerals are coming on board to influence the enzymes

coming on board to influence the enzymes and making all the goodies for

and making all the goodies for digestion, then they can handle, you

digestion, then they can handle, you know, a lot of the stuff, you know. So

know, a lot of the stuff, you know. So that that's why mineral balancing to me

that that's why mineral balancing to me is one of the greatest. And even when

is one of the greatest. And even when people walk into a mall and they get all

people walk into a mall and they get all the aldahhides and everything from, you

the aldahhides and everything from, you know, Chanel number five or whatever,

know, Chanel number five or whatever, you know, all these chemicals getting

you know, all these chemicals getting into, they get headaches because they

into, they get headaches because they don't have the enzymes to break down

don't have the enzymes to break down these aldahhides. And that means, you

these aldahhides. And that means, you know, they they're getting symptoms on a

know, they they're getting symptoms on a dime. But as they get healthier now,

dime. But as they get healthier now, they can walk into a department store

they can walk into a department store and they can go down the, you know, the

and they can go down the, you know, the Clorox aisle and they don't get a

Clorox aisle and they don't get a headache from the fumes, you know,

headache from the fumes, you know, offging in some big box store or you can

offging in some big box store or you can walk into, you know, a perfume factory

walk into, you know, a perfume factory and you don't get affected. And then you

and you don't get affected. And then you could see how you could start eating

could see how you could start eating almost anything once you start getting

almost anything once you start getting healthy. But again, common sense. So,

healthy. But again, common sense. So, we're not as we get healthy, we're not

we're not as we get healthy, we're not going to poison ourselves with the

going to poison ourselves with the garbage that got us there in the first

garbage that got us there in the first place, but we're going to see that we're

place, but we're going to see that we're going to be able to enjoy, you know,

going to be able to enjoy, you know, having the spice of life to enjoy food

having the spice of life to enjoy food so we don't become, you know, food Nazis

so we don't become, you know, food Nazis and then we're micro doing everything.

and then we're micro doing everything. We can't have this, we can't have that.

We can't have this, we can't have that. That's sensitivities. We want to build

That's sensitivities. We want to build up the body so we're not sensitive to

up the body so we're not sensitive to everything under the sun. We're not

everything under the sun. We're not sensitive to the environment. we're not

sensitive to the environment. we're not as sensitive to going to a store. So,

as sensitive to going to a store. So, this is where building up the mineral

this is where building up the mineral grid so we can break down all the

grid so we can break down all the garbage so the body can get rid of it.

garbage so the body can get rid of it. So, that's how important the mineral

So, that's how important the mineral balancing really is.

balancing really is. >> Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, I kind of I I

>> Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, I kind of I I laugh. Sometimes I see some of these

laugh. Sometimes I see some of these bigger health accounts and I actually

bigger health accounts and I actually who I know haven't like spent tons of

who I know haven't like spent tons of times on detoxification and they're just

times on detoxification and they're just like shunn they turn everyone so

like shunn they turn everyone so neurotic when I'm like the actual goal

neurotic when I'm like the actual goal here if you're really really healthy is

here if you're really really healthy is you can mess up sometimes or you can

you can mess up sometimes or you can withstand you know the smell of gasoline

withstand you know the smell of gasoline or the smell of you know like you should

or the smell of you know like you should be able to walk through you know

be able to walk through you know whatever the the the the mall and be

whatever the the the the mall and be okay. It's not that crazy. It's like

okay. It's not that crazy. It's like it's just you should be able to tolerate

it's just you should be able to tolerate that and you know you should be able to

that and you know you should be able to enjoy some unhealthy foods if you're

enjoy some unhealthy foods if you're with family or loved ones and you're out

with family or loved ones and you're out at a dinner and it's not perfect. It

at a dinner and it's not perfect. It shouldn't be this big neurotic thing

shouldn't be this big neurotic thing that's going to wipe you out for two

that's going to wipe you out for two days if you have the piece of bread or

days if you have the piece of bread or you have the dessert. And that's what

you have the dessert. And that's what real health looks like. Or even you know

real health looks like. Or even you know I think a lot of people like alcohol is

I think a lot of people like alcohol is trending down which is good. We

trending down which is good. We definitely always overdrink, but I do

definitely always overdrink, but I do think it can be used socially, you know,

think it can be used socially, you know, acceptably one or two cocktails. But I

acceptably one or two cocktails. But I think a lot of people with the with the

think a lot of people with the with the downtrend of alcohol just can't even

downtrend of alcohol just can't even break down alcohol anymore because their

break down alcohol anymore because their livers are so toxic. Uh you need zinc,

livers are so toxic. Uh you need zinc, you know, to break down alcohol pretty

you know, to break down alcohol pretty effectively. And as we know, everyone's

effectively. And as we know, everyone's pretty much zinc deficient. And so I

pretty much zinc deficient. And so I think there's some issues with even just

think there's some issues with even just like because that's just like a one more

like because that's just like a one more toxin. We're already getting bombarded

toxin. We're already getting bombarded with everything. We're already the

with everything. We're already the bucket's already full. And then you add

bucket's already full. And then you add in like a drink or two and some people

in like a drink or two and some people can just really get crazy hangovers and

can just really get crazy hangovers and stuff when I feel like you should be

stuff when I feel like you should be able to enjoy like one bad meal and like

able to enjoy like one bad meal and like one cocktail or two like if you're not

one cocktail or two like if you're not going out and binge drinking and be

going out and binge drinking and be okay. Um as long as you're not doing

okay. Um as long as you're not doing that like every day or every you know

that like every day or every you know every other day. But you know as I've

every other day. But you know as I've gotten healthier that was that's kind of

gotten healthier that was that's kind of my case. I can go have like one cocktail

my case. I can go have like one cocktail or one glass of wine or two with dinner

or one glass of wine or two with dinner and I'll be okay the next day. But

and I'll be okay the next day. But before when I was super toxic, if I

before when I was super toxic, if I would have done that, I would feel like

would have done that, I would feel like crap for like four days,

crap for like four days, >> right? I mean, just think when you

>> right? I mean, just think when you travel, you know, when you go to a

travel, you know, when you go to a restaurant and everything set you off.

restaurant and everything set you off. When you start getting healthy, you can

When you start getting healthy, you can eat a weekend of restaurant food and

eat a weekend of restaurant food and it's not going to kill you. You know,

it's not going to kill you. You know, you're going to be just fine and you

you're going to be just fine and you actually may even enjoy the restaurant

actually may even enjoy the restaurant food. But I'm not telling you to go to

food. But I'm not telling you to go to restaurants and start because restaurant

restaurants and start because restaurant food is garbage. Most of it, you know,

food is garbage. Most of it, you know, it's all garbage for the most part,

it's all garbage for the most part, unless you're cooking it yourself with

unless you're cooking it yourself with intelligent ingredients and putting love

intelligent ingredients and putting love into creating your food because there's

into creating your food because there's a whole art and science to food. But

a whole art and science to food. But then we just become food phobia, you

then we just become food phobia, you know, just and we we're avoiding this,

know, just and we we're avoiding this, we're avoiding that. Spice of life, you

we're avoiding that. Spice of life, you know, food is amazing. So, we want to

know, food is amazing. So, we want to have the spice of life. If we're

have the spice of life. If we're traveling, I want those authentic dishes

traveling, I want those authentic dishes where I'm traveling to. I don't want to

where I'm traveling to. I don't want to have the fears and phobias that I can't

have the fears and phobias that I can't eat this, I can't eat that. Um, gluten.

eat this, I can't eat that. Um, gluten. Whenever you hear gluten, just think

Whenever you hear gluten, just think glyphosate. It's the glyphosate that is

glyphosate. It's the glyphosate that is just, you know, one of the most horrific

just, you know, one of the most horrific chemicals that is a chelator of the

chemicals that is a chelator of the minerals and it will chilate out your

minerals and it will chilate out your calcium, your magnesium, your zinc,

calcium, your magnesium, your zinc, >> and that's, you know, and we're all

>> and that's, you know, and we're all inundated with this glyphosate because

inundated with this glyphosate because do you test uh everyone for glyphosate?

do you test uh everyone for glyphosate? >> I don't. I just stick to the HTMA test,

>> I don't. I just stick to the HTMA test, but I I just go into the assumption that

but I I just go into the assumption that we that anybody has glyphosate and

we that anybody has glyphosate and everybody, even probably myself at this

everybody, even probably myself at this point. I take a lot of zeolyten binders

point. I take a lot of zeolyten binders for that reason though. I like that's

for that reason though. I like that's why I like the zeo charge that I had

why I like the zeo charge that I had sent you some of over, but everyone's

sent you some of over, but everyone's got their favorite binder or whatever

got their favorite binder or whatever cuz I think we still get those daily

cuz I think we still get those daily exposures. You know, I buy everything

exposures. You know, I buy everything local seasonal from the farm, but like

local seasonal from the farm, but like you know, who knows? The farm next to

you know, who knows? The farm next to them could be spraying glyphosate and

them could be spraying glyphosate and that could come over to their farm. I

that could come over to their farm. I mean, you don't know every growing

mean, you don't know every growing condition of everything that you put

condition of everything that you put into your mouth. So, I think um it's in

into your mouth. So, I think um it's in the water. So, I filter my water. I do

the water. So, I filter my water. I do my best to buy local and seasonal and

my best to buy local and seasonal and organic, but um you know, I don't I'm

organic, but um you know, I don't I'm not naive to think that I have zero. And

not naive to think that I have zero. And that's why I keep the binder coming in

that's why I keep the binder coming in on the daily. I like to do the

on the daily. I like to do the glyphosate test because especially with

glyphosate test because especially with children because I got to educate the

children because I got to educate the parents that look at this glyphosate off

parents that look at this glyphosate off the charts for your your kids. So then

the charts for your your kids. So then they'll have the common sense say,

they'll have the common sense say, "Well, where's that glyphosate coming

"Well, where's that glyphosate coming from, you know, and they'll start

from, you know, and they'll start avoiding the restaurants. They'll start,

avoiding the restaurants. They'll start, you know, incorporating better quality

you know, incorporating better quality foods." But again, we're all exposed no

foods." But again, we're all exposed no matter what we're doing, but we want to

matter what we're doing, but we want to decrease that level of exposure. Then we

decrease that level of exposure. Then we can retest the glyphosate and we can see

can retest the glyphosate and we can see as we mineralize the body, we come in

as we mineralize the body, we come in with some binders um and we start

with some binders um and we start removing the chemical glyphosate and you

removing the chemical glyphosate and you see that come crashing down and you show

see that come crashing down and you show that to them, you know, a year later

that to them, you know, a year later glyphosate off the top roof, you know,

glyphosate off the top roof, you know, top 90% in the country and then a year

top 90% in the country and then a year later it it barely shows up. So, this is

later it it barely shows up. So, this is the power of using the test. You know,

the power of using the test. You know, more of a scare tactic to show, yeah,

more of a scare tactic to show, yeah, look, I I need the parents to pay

look, I I need the parents to pay attention to what you're feeding your

attention to what you're feeding your kids. So, I'm going to scare you a

kids. So, I'm going to scare you a little bit with running these tests to

little bit with running these tests to show, yeah, you got these chemicals in

show, yeah, you got these chemicals in you. We got to get them out. And so this

you. We got to get them out. And so this will increase, you know, their

will increase, you know, their compliancy with paying attention to the

compliancy with paying attention to the foods and taking the minerals when you

foods and taking the minerals when you show them, you know, that the toxic

show them, you know, that the toxic metals or the chemicals or whatever.

metals or the chemicals or whatever. >> Yeah, the the testing helps the parents

>> Yeah, the the testing helps the parents really shift into gear. I think that

really shift into gear. I think that that aluminum is always off the charts.

that aluminum is always off the charts. They see a couple other metals and

They see a couple other metals and they're like, "Oh okay, I guess

they're like, "Oh okay, I guess I'm on board. I guess I'll do what this

I'm on board. I guess I'll do what this guy tells me." Because obviously, but

guy tells me." Because obviously, but you have even more tests to scare him a

you have even more tests to scare him a little bit and make it a little bit

little bit and make it a little bit healthier. I I know we only got like the

healthier. I I know we only got like the last little few minutes here. I want one

last little few minutes here. I want one thing I wanted to touch on. I'm not sure

thing I wanted to touch on. I'm not sure how you know we put vitamin K2 in the

how you know we put vitamin K2 in the CMAC Fusion. I think it's a great

CMAC Fusion. I think it's a great supplement. Do you think that people

supplement. Do you think that people need to be taking uh vitamin K2 or do

need to be taking uh vitamin K2 or do you think if we just balance out all the

you think if we just balance out all the minerals everything will be fine? Cuz

minerals everything will be fine? Cuz obviously like when you started

obviously like when you started practicing I don't think K2 was like a

practicing I don't think K2 was like a supplement everyone took. But now with

supplement everyone took. But now with the research and you know it's obviously

the research and you know it's obviously in dairy and it helps bring that calcium

in dairy and it helps bring that calcium back into the bones and places where it

back into the bones and places where it needs to be instead of the soft tissues.

needs to be instead of the soft tissues. Do you like to use K2 at all or do you

Do you like to use K2 at all or do you think just by balancing out the whole

think just by balancing out the whole mineral system you'll just be good on

mineral system you'll just be good on the calcification front?

the calcification front? >> Never used it ever in my, you know, my

>> Never used it ever in my, you know, my whole time in mineral balancing over 20

whole time in mineral balancing over 20 years. I've never used K. Um I I'm all

years. I've never used K. Um I I'm all the fats soluble vitamins A, D, E, and

the fats soluble vitamins A, D, E, and K. The only fat soluble vitamin I may

K. The only fat soluble vitamin I may use is vitamin D, you know. So I will

use is vitamin D, you know. So I will use D, you know, moderately because all

use D, you know, moderately because all your fat soluble vitamins, what do they

your fat soluble vitamins, what do they need for gene expression? They all need

need for gene expression? They all need a zinc finger. So that's why for all

a zinc finger. So that's why for all your fats solubable vitamins, for them

your fats solubable vitamins, for them to be utilized on a genomic level, you

to be utilized on a genomic level, you got to have that zinc finger. So the fat

got to have that zinc finger. So the fat hormone, whatever it is, can be

hormone, whatever it is, can be transcribed and translated into that

transcribed and translated into that usable protein. So then it can do its

usable protein. So then it can do its job. So to answer your question, I've

job. So to answer your question, I've never used vitamin K. Probably never

never used vitamin K. Probably never will. Just build up the enzymes in the

will. Just build up the enzymes in the body, all the microbes in the digestive,

body, all the microbes in the digestive, you know, good bacteria, you're going to

you know, good bacteria, you're going to get your K working. So I never used it,

get your K working. So I never used it, probably never will.

probably never will. >> Yeah. Interesting. I had a feeling some

>> Yeah. Interesting. I had a feeling some of the old school guys, it's it's more

of the old school guys, it's it's more of a newer supplement. I actually like

of a newer supplement. I actually like how I feel with, but I just already it's

how I feel with, but I just already it's easy for me cuz we put it right into the

easy for me cuz we put it right into the calm mag supplement. So, I don't have to

calm mag supplement. So, I don't have to go out of my way to take it. I'm already

go out of my way to take it. I'm already just taking the calm mag and the K2's

just taking the calm mag and the K2's right in there. And there's some good

right in there. And there's some good research around testosterone and

research around testosterone and different things. So, I think it

different things. So, I think it definitely can be utilized. I also

definitely can be utilized. I also think, you know, there was decades of

think, you know, there was decades of like the Dr. Paul X and the Dr. Wilson's

like the Dr. Paul X and the Dr. Wilson's who balanced out calcium and got calcium

who balanced out calcium and got calcium back regulated and released some of the

back regulated and released some of the excess calcium that we see on hair test

excess calcium that we see on hair test without the K2. So, I do think the

without the K2. So, I do think the actual overall mineral balance of

actual overall mineral balance of everything on on the HTMA matters a

everything on on the HTMA matters a little bit more, but I think K2 is kind

little bit more, but I think K2 is kind of like one of them things you can throw

of like one of them things you can throw in to kind of just help speed up the

in to kind of just help speed up the process maybe. And I do I' I have always

process maybe. And I do I' I have always felt better on it. So, maybe you play

felt better on it. So, maybe you play around with that one day, maybe you

around with that one day, maybe you won't. But, uh I think with your your

won't. But, uh I think with your your cuz I I've seen through 20 years I've

cuz I I've seen through 20 years I've seen 600 calcium shells come back to

seen 600 calcium shells come back to Earth. I've seen four lows come back. So

Earth. I've seen four lows come back. So and never once using a a vitamin K. So

and never once using a a vitamin K. So I've gotten great results with without

I've gotten great results with without using it. So if it ain't broke, don't

using it. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it. So I don't want to add another

fix it. So I don't want to add another fat soluble vitamin into the mix when I

fat soluble vitamin into the mix when I want to focus on the minerals. Minerals

want to focus on the minerals. Minerals are that cosmic force that brings life

are that cosmic force that brings life to carbon organic chemistry. Yeah, I do

to carbon organic chemistry. Yeah, I do think overall getting the right the

think overall getting the right the ratios and the overall the minerals is

ratios and the overall the minerals is more important than focusing on that K2.

more important than focusing on that K2. But if people want to try it out, I I do

But if people want to try it out, I I do think I feel better on it. Maybe that's

think I feel better on it. Maybe that's maybe it's uh placebo. Who knows? But

maybe it's uh placebo. Who knows? But you know, there's some good

you know, there's some good >> good calcium and magnesium.

>> good calcium and magnesium. >> Yeah, I really have no idea because it's

>> Yeah, I really have no idea because it's right in the same supplement with with

right in the same supplement with with the boron and the calcium, magnesium,

the boron and the calcium, magnesium, and all of that. Um I had something that

and all of that. Um I had something that was on my mind that I just slipped. I

was on my mind that I just slipped. I had a good one to Oh, what uh so what

had a good one to Oh, what uh so what toxins cause calcification as well? So,

toxins cause calcification as well? So, we talked a lot about the mineral

we talked a lot about the mineral imbalances, the disregularities and the

imbalances, the disregularities and the ratio between everything. How much do

ratio between everything. How much do heavy metals and things like fluoride

heavy metals and things like fluoride and stuff like that cause calcification

and stuff like that cause calcification in and of themsel like you know outside

in and of themsel like you know outside of all the minerals you can take and the

of all the minerals you can take and the balancing what what role do the heavy

balancing what what role do the heavy metals and the toxins play?

metals and the toxins play? >> Well, you know, lead will displace

>> Well, you know, lead will displace calcium. You know that that's a that you

calcium. You know that that's a that you know that's definitely a flagrant fowl

know that's definitely a flagrant fowl is that lead. So the alchemical metal of

is that lead. So the alchemical metal of Saturn since the beginning of time has

Saturn since the beginning of time has always been lead. The nutrient mineral

always been lead. The nutrient mineral of Saturn is calcium. So we want when

of Saturn is calcium. So we want when that lead comes out of its binding space

that lead comes out of its binding space in the bone then that calcium can come

in the bone then that calcium can come in. So we know it's not just lead. We

in. So we know it's not just lead. We know aluminum can block the calcium.

know aluminum can block the calcium. Cadmium absolutely can block the

Cadmium absolutely can block the calcium. And in Japan they had this

calcium. And in Japan they had this disease um you know where the cadmium

disease um you know where the cadmium fields were getting into the rice and

fields were getting into the rice and they started you know the Japanese

they started you know the Japanese population started develop horrible

population started develop horrible calcium deposition diseases where the

calcium deposition diseases where the bones were deformed and that was because

bones were deformed and that was because the the cadmium was displacing

the the cadmium was displacing uh the the the cadmium was displacing

uh the the the cadmium was displacing the calcium and that was causing all the

the calcium and that was causing all the bone diseases and it was horrible and

bone diseases and it was horrible and that and they knew it was the the

that and they knew it was the the cadmium in mine getting into the rice

cadmium in mine getting into the rice field causing all their diseases of

field causing all their diseases of calcium disbalance. So all these toxic

calcium disbalance. So all these toxic metals will chilate out you know the the

metals will chilate out you know the the nutrient minerals whether it's calcium,

nutrient minerals whether it's calcium, magnesium, zinc and so how it has an

magnesium, zinc and so how it has an affinity for this specific metal

affinity for this specific metal determines you know you got to look at

determines you know you got to look at the veency you got to look at its

the veency you got to look at its structure you know because there like

structure you know because there like you said ionic mimicry is going to be a

you said ionic mimicry is going to be a play and so these toxins can mimic the

play and so these toxins can mimic the nutrient mineral and then when it gets

nutrient mineral and then when it gets in and it finds its way into an enzyme

in and it finds its way into an enzyme binding site Then the allseeing brain is

binding site Then the allseeing brain is going to say the wrong mineral is there

going to say the wrong mineral is there and then that's that creates a lot of

and then that's that creates a lot of reactive oxygen species causing

reactive oxygen species causing inflammation causing the bones to break

inflammation causing the bones to break down because you know th those bone

down because you know th those bone those proteins have to fold into that

those proteins have to fold into that three-dimensional shape. If you got the

three-dimensional shape. If you got the wrong metal in there it ain't going to

wrong metal in there it ain't going to fold and then eventually if that protein

fold and then eventually if that protein doesn't fold it becomes unusable.

doesn't fold it becomes unusable. >> Yeah, I agree. And you know the the

>> Yeah, I agree. And you know the the other issue with the calcification

other issue with the calcification um not you know kind of switching gears

um not you know kind of switching gears just for this last little segment but is

just for this last little segment but is uh the the impact that we see with on on

uh the the impact that we see with on on the emotional front is what people don't

the emotional front is what people don't realize a lot of the like socially

realize a lot of the like socially withdrawn people the people don't feel

withdrawn people the people don't feel like going out even though they used to

like going out even though they used to be really social like when you kind of

be really social like when you kind of like bring that you show them that

like bring that you show them that calcium shell and you kind of tell them

calcium shell and you kind of tell them the effect that it has on like your

the effect that it has on like your emotional stance and how you might be

emotional stance and how you might be numb you might not get the high highs

numb you might not get the high highs and the low lows simply because this

and the low lows simply because this calcification is kind of this hardening

calcification is kind of this hardening mineral kind of blocking you off. Do you

mineral kind of blocking you off. Do you see that a lot as far as like emotional

see that a lot as far as like emotional issues when people have calcification?

issues when people have calcification? >> Absolutely. It's one of the biggest

>> Absolutely. It's one of the biggest things. So, you know, you're going to

things. So, you know, you're going to see how the minerals not just affect

see how the minerals not just affect your physiology, they they affect your

your physiology, they they affect your psychology. We know if if lead gets into

psychology. We know if if lead gets into the amygdala or you know part of the

the amygdala or you know part of the brain the emotional centers of the brain

brain the emotional centers of the brain you know it's gonna disrupt you know

you know it's gonna disrupt you know it's going to kill your empathy it's

it's going to kill your empathy it's going to kill your passion it's going to

going to kill your passion it's going to kill your drive because you have a toxic

kill your drive because you have a toxic metal doing some enzyatic function in

metal doing some enzyatic function in the wrong place at the wrong time where

the wrong place at the wrong time where the nutrient mineral should be. So we

the nutrient mineral should be. So we know how profound it is on our

know how profound it is on our psychology. And then when we go through

psychology. And then when we go through metal dumps, you start to see we're not

metal dumps, you start to see we're not as depressed. Our energy is better. Our

as depressed. Our energy is better. Our mood is better. Our passion comes back

mood is better. Our passion comes back for for life and for love and for, you

for for life and for love and for, you know, relationships and for our, you

know, relationships and for our, you know, really it brings the zest of life

know, really it brings the zest of life back when these toxins come out. But

back when these toxins come out. But first, you got to clean out that liver

first, you got to clean out that liver before the brain and the bone is going

before the brain and the bone is going to start mobilizing these metals out.

to start mobilizing these metals out. You got to get the kidneys and the liver

You got to get the kidneys and the liver working at a more efficient clip. Then

working at a more efficient clip. Then the then the toxic metals will start

the then the toxic metals will start being released from the brain and the

being released from the brain and the other organs. But you got to start with

other organs. But you got to start with the kidneys and the liver to really

the kidneys and the liver to really start mobilizing these metals out. So

start mobilizing these metals out. So yes, it has a profound effect on your

yes, it has a profound effect on your psychology. And so that's why when you

psychology. And so that's why when you see you know you whatever you know from

see you know you whatever you know from manic depression to to panic attacks to

manic depression to to panic attacks to anxiety we know how copper causes a lot

anxiety we know how copper causes a lot of panic attacks a lot of anxiety. So

of panic attacks a lot of anxiety. So the hub of copper is in the

the hub of copper is in the locoserillis. That's your sympathetic

locoserillis. That's your sympathetic nervous system. So they even have a blue

nervous system. So they even have a blue stain in the locoserillis. That's in the

stain in the locoserillis. That's in the midbrain. that's in the ponds. That's

midbrain. that's in the ponds. That's the hub of your sympathetic nervous

the hub of your sympathetic nervous system. And that that's regulating the

system. And that that's regulating the dopamine and the adrenaline, you know,

dopamine and the adrenaline, you know, and so when that when that beta

and so when that when that beta hydroxilase enzyme in the pawns and the

hydroxilase enzyme in the pawns and the locoseris, when that is disregulated,

locoseris, when that is disregulated, you're going to have the the brain on

you're going to have the the brain on fire, the anxieties, the panic attacks

fire, the anxieties, the panic attacks because dopamine and and adrenaline are

because dopamine and and adrenaline are disregulated. So you may have on one day

disregulated. So you may have on one day you may have way too much uh dopamine.

you may have way too much uh dopamine. Then the next day you can have a surge

Then the next day you can have a surge of adrenaline. There's your panic

of adrenaline. There's your panic attack. There's your temper tantrum.

attack. There's your temper tantrum. There's your fighting. There's your

There's your fighting. There's your belligerance. And it's going to

belligerance. And it's going to vasillate between the high dopamine, low

vasillate between the high dopamine, low adrenaline. And then that's going to

adrenaline. And then that's going to crash and then you're going to have low

crash and then you're going to have low dopamine, high adrenaline. And that's

dopamine, high adrenaline. And that's all because of copper affecting the

all because of copper affecting the brain chemistry. And that's just one

brain chemistry. And that's just one example of many. We know how iron can

example of many. We know how iron can cause, you know, bring out the most

cause, you know, bring out the most hardened criminals, you know, in our

hardened criminals, you know, in our culture. When that iron gets to a

culture. When that iron gets to a certain part of the emotional part of

certain part of the emotional part of the brain, that's going to bring out the

the brain, that's going to bring out the rapists, the serial killers, and all the

rapists, the serial killers, and all the ugly stuff we see because metals are

ugly stuff we see because metals are profound.

profound. Wow. That you what's interesting you

Wow. That you what's interesting you that locos locus cerilius that that kind

that locos locus cerilius that that kind of blue spot I don't know if you're

of blue spot I don't know if you're familiar with Dr. John Luron at all.

familiar with Dr. John Luron at all. He's kind of this prolific um functional

He's kind of this prolific um functional doctor. Does some very cutting edge like

doctor. Does some very cutting edge like therapies as far as like IVs and

therapies as far as like IVs and frequencies and things down in Sarasota.

frequencies and things down in Sarasota. I've had him on the show. I've met him a

I've had him on the show. I've met him a bunch of times. Really interesting guy.

bunch of times. Really interesting guy. He likes methylene blue and he has this

He likes methylene blue and he has this kind of argument that the locuster, you

kind of argument that the locuster, you know, is blue and the methylene blue

know, is blue and the methylene blue will affect that that region. I can't

will affect that that region. I can't remember his exact breakdown, but he's,

remember his exact breakdown, but he's, you know, he's told me about it in

you know, he's told me about it in person. I've heard him on shows. But

person. I've heard him on shows. But you're saying that that you know locos

you're saying that that you know locos is blue because of copper.

is blue because of copper. >> It's exactly why it's blue. It's because

>> It's exactly why it's blue. It's because of copper. It's

of copper. It's >> that makes more sense to me potent, you

>> that makes more sense to me potent, you know, you just think, you know, because

know, you just think, you know, because I always tell people methylene blue is

I always tell people methylene blue is cool. I like it. I've taken it before. I

cool. I like it. I've taken it before. I like it for jet lag. I like it as a

like it for jet lag. I like it as a neutropic. I almost never take it

neutropic. I almost never take it anymore now that I've got a lot of my

anymore now that I've got a lot of my energy back. It used to be more

energy back. It used to be more effective for me when I was a little bit

effective for me when I was a little bit sicker. But um uh that would, you know,

sicker. But um uh that would, you know, you're you're much more likely to be to

you're you're much more likely to be to be blue because of copper than of

be blue because of copper than of methylene blue. this like synthetic dye

methylene blue. this like synthetic dye that we're ingesting.

that we're ingesting. >> If you look up in, you know, any PubMed

>> If you look up in, you know, any PubMed research, you're going to see in the

research, you're going to see in the locus is the beta hydroxilase enzyme.

locus is the beta hydroxilase enzyme. That beta hydroxilase enzyme is

That beta hydroxilase enzyme is absolutely copper dependent. So you got

absolutely copper dependent. So you got to have the copper there to activate

to have the copper there to activate that enzyme. So you can add a hydroxal

that enzyme. So you can add a hydroxal group to the dopamine. So when you add

group to the dopamine. So when you add the hydroxal group to the certain carbon

the hydroxal group to the certain carbon and dopamine now you have adrenaline and

and dopamine now you have adrenaline and that enzyme allows that transfer of an

that enzyme allows that transfer of an oxygen a hydrogen and an electron. So

oxygen a hydrogen and an electron. So that's all that's where that copper is

that's all that's where that copper is is the most abundant 10 times more

is the most abundant 10 times more copper in the local curillus than any

copper in the local curillus than any other part of the brain because it's the

other part of the brain because it's the hub of your sympathetic you know nervous

hub of your sympathetic you know nervous system.

system. >> Wow that makes total sense. That makes a

>> Wow that makes total sense. That makes a lot of sense because I've heard him

lot of sense because I've heard him describe that in multiple talks about

describe that in multiple talks about that methylene blue and that that blue

that methylene blue and that that blue region of the brain and it's exactly

region of the brain and it's exactly what you're talking about, but it makes

what you're talking about, but it makes a lot of sense that it's copper.

a lot of sense that it's copper. >> Yeah, you you'll research that and

>> Yeah, you you'll research that and you'll see it's absolutely copper.

you'll see it's absolutely copper. >> Yeah. I mean, he's he's like a highle

>> Yeah. I mean, he's he's like a highle guy, so I just kind of listened to a few

guy, so I just kind of listened to a few of his talks. I'm like, "Yeah, that

of his talks. I'm like, "Yeah, that makes sense that methylene blue would

makes sense that methylene blue would act on on a blue region of the brain."

act on on a blue region of the brain." But, you know, I guess I never put two

But, you know, I guess I never put two and two together. Like, you know,

and two together. Like, you know, copper's blue, so that that would make

copper's blue, so that that would make total sense.

total sense. >> Yeah. And copper's what? Doing what?

>> Yeah. And copper's what? Doing what? It's moving those electrons. What does

It's moving those electrons. What does methylene blue do? It's moving those

methylene blue do? It's moving those electrons. So, so maybe you're, you

electrons. So, so maybe you're, you know, he's giving the methylene blue to

know, he's giving the methylene blue to affect the movement of electrons. So,

affect the movement of electrons. So, copper in the electron transport chain,

copper in the electron transport chain, copper is the final donator of electrons

copper is the final donator of electrons to molecular oxygen and it will actually

to molecular oxygen and it will actually when when the copper binds to the

when when the copper binds to the oxygen, it will split the oxygen into

oxygen, it will split the oxygen into water and CO2. Um, that's amazing. I

water and CO2. Um, that's amazing. I mean, that's I think the only mineral

mean, that's I think the only mineral that can do that. And so, every molecule

that can do that. And so, every molecule of CO2, how is CO2 dealt with in the

of CO2, how is CO2 dealt with in the body? Think of all the CO2 you're you're

body? Think of all the CO2 you're you're producing of every second of every

producing of every second of every minute of your life. What's the enzyme

minute of your life. What's the enzyme that regulates CO2?

that regulates CO2? >> Not sure.

>> Not sure. >> Carbonic and hydrates, carbon,

>> Carbonic and hydrates, carbon, >> carbonic something, but I couldn't

>> carbonic something, but I couldn't >> carbonic acid is absolutely zinc

>> carbonic acid is absolutely zinc dependent. So this is why we start to

dependent. So this is why we start to see how these enzymes and the mineral

see how these enzymes and the mineral co-actors for these enzymes and when you

co-actors for these enzymes and when you look at all the panic attacks and the

look at all the panic attacks and the anxieties you go to that locuserillis

anxieties you go to that locuserillis that's a copper disregulation and that's

that's a copper disregulation and that's you know again that's the hub of your

you know again that's the hub of your sympathetic nervous system and so when

sympathetic nervous system and so when that's disregulated you'll see the

that's disregulated you'll see the anxieties you'll see the panic attacks

anxieties you'll see the panic attacks you'll see the phobias the fears the

you'll see the phobias the fears the OCDs and all these weird type of things

OCDs and all these weird type of things affecting dopamine and adrenaline.

affecting dopamine and adrenaline. >> Yeah, that's super interesting. I know

>> Yeah, that's super interesting. I know we got to wrap it up, but you know, a

we got to wrap it up, but you know, a lot of times people in like disease

lot of times people in like disease states or cancer states or any of, you

states or cancer states or any of, you know, any kind of diagnosis state, they

know, any kind of diagnosis state, they kind of say that, you know, you're in a

kind of say that, you know, you're in a low oxygen state. But then now that you

low oxygen state. But then now that you look at kind of how these minerals

look at kind of how these minerals played a role in kind of splitting some

played a role in kind of splitting some of those and breaking things off into

of those and breaking things off into oxygen or into CO2, you start to realize

oxygen or into CO2, you start to realize that it's like the enzymes potentially,

that it's like the enzymes potentially, you know, that the toxin is also

you know, that the toxin is also affecting that enzyme that would help

affecting that enzyme that would help you kind of be in a more highly

you kind of be in a more highly oxygenated state just naturally. And you

oxygenated state just naturally. And you know, I'm not against the oxygen

know, I'm not against the oxygen therapies. I have ozone machine at the

therapies. I have ozone machine at the house. I like them and people use

house. I like them and people use hyperbarics. But I do think we need to

hyperbarics. But I do think we need to get down to more like the cellular kind

get down to more like the cellular kind of enzyme level to also help bring us

of enzyme level to also help bring us out of those kind of diagnoses and

out of those kind of diagnoses and disease states.

disease states. >> I absolutely agree. We got to work on

>> I absolutely agree. We got to work on the enzyme and while we're doing all

the enzyme and while we're doing all that crude work, we still got to deal

that crude work, we still got to deal with the emotional person, you know? So

with the emotional person, you know? So if they're depressed or they're anxiety,

if they're depressed or they're anxiety, that's where I love homeopathy to come

that's where I love homeopathy to come in with a a energy vibration frequency

in with a a energy vibration frequency remedy to help them to deal with that

remedy to help them to deal with that layer of pathology, whether it's showing

layer of pathology, whether it's showing up in chronic anxiety, chronic panic

up in chronic anxiety, chronic panic attacks, chronic depressing depression

attacks, chronic depressing depression or chronic OCDs or fears or phobias or

or chronic OCDs or fears or phobias or whatever. They help to, you know, they

whatever. They help to, you know, they help to kind of pacify and plate the

help to kind of pacify and plate the symptom while you're doing the crude

symptom while you're doing the crude work. So when you're doing the crude

work. So when you're doing the crude work and you're doing the detox, the

work and you're doing the detox, the mineral balancing, the lifestyle, we

mineral balancing, the lifestyle, we give them energybased remedies to help

give them energybased remedies to help so they can weather the storm so they

so they can weather the storm so they don't quit the program. And that can

don't quit the program. And that can work for physical aggravations,

work for physical aggravations, emotional aggravations, um psychological

emotional aggravations, um psychological aggravations. We use the energybased

aggravations. We use the energybased remedies to help as we're doing, you

remedies to help as we're doing, you know, the crude work.

know, the crude work. >> Wow. Beautifully said. All right, Dr.

>> Wow. Beautifully said. All right, Dr. Celig, I could talk to you a 100,000

Celig, I could talk to you a 100,000 times about 100,000 topics. So, I'm sure

times about 100,000 topics. So, I'm sure we'll we'll revisit a different topic uh

we'll we'll revisit a different topic uh later on, but I know you're a little bit

later on, but I know you're a little bit hard to get in in touch with. You kind

hard to get in in touch with. You kind of do some of these podcasts just for

of do some of these podcasts just for fun, but if anybody does want to try to

fun, but if anybody does want to try to work with you um and get into you, do

work with you um and get into you, do some testing with you, how can they find

some testing with you, how can they find you? Where can they find your work? So,

you? Where can they find your work? So, back to natural health. Now, I take on

back to natural health. Now, I take on full cases. I don't just, you know, read

full cases. I don't just, you know, read someone's hair test and give some

someone's hair test and give some advice. You know, when someone's working

advice. You know, when someone's working with me, we're going to do the full

with me, we're going to do the full onslaught of labs. We're going to do

onslaught of labs. We're going to do stool. We're going to do hair. We're

stool. We're going to do hair. We're going to do blood. We're going to look

going to do blood. We're going to look at the hormone. We're going to look at

at the hormone. We're going to look at everything so I can profile you there.

everything so I can profile you there. I'm going to profile you astrologically.

I'm going to profile you astrologically. So, if you're born in Sat or born in

So, if you're born in Sat or born in Capricorn, you're going to have more

Capricorn, you're going to have more Saturn stuff. If you're born in its

Saturn stuff. If you're born in its polar opposite in uh cancer, you're

polar opposite in uh cancer, you're going to have more calcium stuff. If

going to have more calcium stuff. If you're born in um on a Saturday, you're

you're born in um on a Saturday, you're going to have more calcium stuff. So,

going to have more calcium stuff. So, I'm going to profile you many, many

I'm going to profile you many, many ways. I want to know the energetics of

ways. I want to know the energetics of who you are. So, I'm going to look at

who you are. So, I'm going to look at you astrologically. I'm going to look at

you astrologically. I'm going to look at you biochemically. I'm going to look at

you biochemically. I'm going to look at all the suppressive things that you've

all the suppressive things that you've done in your life. the suppressive, you

done in your life. the suppressive, you know, the, you know, the

know, the, you know, the anti-histamines, the antibiotics, the

anti-histamines, the antibiotics, the steroids. So, we're going to look at the

steroids. So, we're going to look at the suppressive layers. We're going to look

suppressive layers. We're going to look at the psychological layers. We're going

at the psychological layers. We're going to look at the metabolic layers. We're

to look at the metabolic layers. We're going to look at the astrological

going to look at the astrological layers. So, then when you're working

layers. So, then when you're working with me, I'm working with you for five

with me, I'm working with you for five months, and then usually people will

months, and then usually people will resign up with me. And I'll end up

resign up with me. And I'll end up working with people for two years, three

working with people for two years, three years, four years, so forth and so on,

years, four years, so forth and so on, moving that healing needle because it

moving that healing needle because it doesn't happen overnight. It's a long

doesn't happen overnight. It's a long process of, you know, dumping metals

process of, you know, dumping metals because, you know, you're not just going

because, you know, you're not just going to remove cadmium from the bones. You're

to remove cadmium from the bones. You're not going to remove lead from the bones

not going to remove lead from the bones in one, you know, lead will stay. That's

in one, you know, lead will stay. That's Saturn. Saturn takes 30 years to rotate

Saturn. Saturn takes 30 years to rotate around the sun. that cadmium and lead

around the sun. that cadmium and lead can stay in the bones for 30 years, can

can stay in the bones for 30 years, can stay in the kidneys for 30 years. So,

stay in the kidneys for 30 years. So, we're going to take it nice and slow on

we're going to take it nice and slow on a healing program.

a healing program. >> I'm glad you said that because I try to,

>> I'm glad you said that because I try to, you know, you can never, you know,

you know, you can never, you know, people can just go on my website and buy

people can just go on my website and buy a test, but I I try on my show to, you

a test, but I I try on my show to, you know, ex at least my free content here

know, ex at least my free content here that I put out to express that this is

that I put out to express that this is like a multi-year slow process that

like a multi-year slow process that we're going to work through here. Um,

we're going to work through here. Um, and it's, you know, you're gonna have to

and it's, you know, you're gonna have to do the enemas and you're gonna try to

do the enemas and you're gonna try to find a sauna or PMF mat and some of

find a sauna or PMF mat and some of these other therapies and it's it's

these other therapies and it's it's really gonna, you know, it doesn't have

really gonna, you know, it doesn't have to take up all of your time and space,

to take up all of your time and space, but it's going to be the main focus

but it's going to be the main focus probably for a couple years. Um, and so

probably for a couple years. Um, and so then once you get your vitality back,

then once you get your vitality back, then you'll have a lot more freedom and

then you'll have a lot more freedom and you won't have to, you know, be so h run

you won't have to, you know, be so h run down by detox symptoms and all that,

down by detox symptoms and all that, you'll just feel a lot better. But then

you'll just feel a lot better. But then you got the rest of your life to live.

you got the rest of your life to live. So, the time's going to go by either way

So, the time's going to go by either way is what I like to say because Susan

is what I like to say because Susan Susan says that Susan Cashache, she's

Susan says that Susan Cashache, she's like, you know, the time's going to go

like, you know, the time's going to go by either way. So, do you want to feel

by either way. So, do you want to feel like crap like where you were when you

like crap like where you were when you started or do you want to like, you

started or do you want to like, you know, you're going to have some detox

know, you're going to have some detox symptoms and there's going to be some

symptoms and there's going to be some road bumps along the way, but you know,

road bumps along the way, but you know, in a couple years, you're going to feel

in a couple years, you're going to feel better than you probably even did when

better than you probably even did when you were in your teens or 20s. That's

you were in your teens or 20s. That's like where I'm starting to get finally

like where I'm starting to get finally being like 3 years in. I'm slowly

being like 3 years in. I'm slowly starting to be like I think that like my

starting to be like I think that like my joints and like my my body starting to

joints and like my my body starting to feel better than it even did cuz when I

feel better than it even did cuz when I was young I was on tons of antibiotics,

was young I was on tons of antibiotics, mercury fillings, eating like crap. So I

mercury fillings, eating like crap. So I mean I was working out and playing

mean I was working out and playing sports, but I don't think I was optimal

sports, but I don't think I was optimal by any means. And I'm slowly kind of

by any means. And I'm slowly kind of getting into this healing space where

getting into this healing space where I'm like this is the best that I think

I'm like this is the best that I think I've ever felt.

I've ever felt. >> I could say the same thing. You know, in

>> I could say the same thing. You know, in my 30s I felt like Now, you know,

my 30s I felt like Now, you know, I'm going to be 63 in January. This is

I'm going to be 63 in January. This is the best I've ever felt. I feel like my

the best I've ever felt. I feel like my my flexibility is good. I feel like my

my flexibility is good. I feel like my mind is firing on all cylinders. You

mind is firing on all cylinders. You know, I haven't been sick in 20 years. I

know, I haven't been sick in 20 years. I don't get colds and flu and none of that

don't get colds and flu and none of that nonsense. I have my bad days, but it's

nonsense. I have my bad days, but it's not like I get fevers and infections and

not like I get fevers and infections and stuff like that. Um because I've been

stuff like that. Um because I've been doing the homework every day. I commit

doing the homework every day. I commit at least an hour to my health from a

at least an hour to my health from a detox. I commit about 30 minutes to my

detox. I commit about 30 minutes to my workout and that's really all I do. And

workout and that's really all I do. And meanwhile, you know, I don't eat, you

meanwhile, you know, I don't eat, you know, excessively. I only eat two meals

know, excessively. I only eat two meals a day, a light lunch, big dinner. And in

a day, a light lunch, big dinner. And in my dinner, I eat whatever I want because

my dinner, I eat whatever I want because I've earned that right through doing the

I've earned that right through doing the homework. And so, at my age right now,

homework. And so, at my age right now, it's the best I ever felt. I think my

it's the best I ever felt. I think my bones are stronger than most 20 year

bones are stronger than most 20 year olds these days.

olds these days. >> Yeah. I think that the longevity piece

>> Yeah. I think that the longevity piece of it is just where you'll just

of it is just where you'll just outshine. And I tell people, you don't

outshine. And I tell people, you don't have to go be a mineral balancing

have to go be a mineral balancing practitioner, but like if you have, I

practitioner, but like if you have, I don't care if you sell real estate,

don't care if you sell real estate, whatever it is you do, you want to be

whatever it is you do, you want to be full of energy and energetic. Sometimes

full of energy and energetic. Sometimes you got to be on social media posts or

you got to be on social media posts or on interviews or meeting with clients

on interviews or meeting with clients and networking, you want to be that guy

and networking, you want to be that guy who's very energetic and who, but if

who's very energetic and who, but if you're just kind of in that calcium

you're just kind of in that calcium shell or you got that copper toxicity

shell or you got that copper toxicity and you're kind of just like have OCD or

and you're kind of just like have OCD or you're a little off, you're not going to

you're a little off, you're not going to thrive in those businesses either. So I

thrive in those businesses either. So I think it just helps across the board and

think it just helps across the board and the longevity of like you could work for

the longevity of like you could work for decades longer if you just focus on your

decades longer if you just focus on your health now.

health now. >> Health is the greatest wealth and so

>> Health is the greatest wealth and so we've heard that saying forever. And so

we've heard that saying forever. And so when you think of wealth and currency

when you think of wealth and currency and current and energy and chi and

and current and energy and chi and prana, you know, when you fix the

prana, you know, when you fix the mineral grid, that energy chi prana

mineral grid, that energy chi prana flows unimpeded through the body. So you

flows unimpeded through the body. So you feel good. So that's why the homework

feel good. So that's why the homework we're doing today. So we age gracefully.

we're doing today. So we age gracefully. So we slow down calcium. We slow down

So we slow down calcium. We slow down Saturn because like I said, it's going

Saturn because like I said, it's going to get us all in the end. But we don't

to get us all in the end. But we don't want that premature aging. So that's why

want that premature aging. So that's why we're doing it today. So then we don't

we're doing it today. So then we don't end up in a nursing home where someone

end up in a nursing home where someone has to feed us and wipe our ass and

has to feed us and wipe our ass and clothe us. We want to be able to do

clothe us. We want to be able to do everything we're doing today, you know,

everything we're doing today, you know, when we're 100, 110 because our DNA is

when we're 100, 110 because our DNA is programmed to a buck 20. We're lucky to

programmed to a buck 20. We're lucky to make it to 80. So when I'm 100, I still

make it to 80. So when I'm 100, I still want to do everything I'm doing now, but

want to do everything I'm doing now, but it's because I'm doing the homework

it's because I'm doing the homework today that I am not worried about

today that I am not worried about getting cancer or heart disease or this

getting cancer or heart disease or this or that, you know, so I want to dive

or that, you know, so I want to dive peacefully in my sleep. I want to go out

peacefully in my sleep. I want to go out on my terms.

on my terms. I totally agree. All right, uh Robert,

I totally agree. All right, uh Robert, well, I know we went a little low over

well, I know we went a little low over time, so I'll I'll wrap it up there.

time, so I'll I'll wrap it up there. Stick around while I close out the show,

Stick around while I close out the show, and we'll definitely do this again

and we'll definitely do this again sometime.

sometime. >> Cool. Thanks.

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