Me and Ryan have been officially

welcomed to the jungle that is Boston Sport.

Sport.

Our white whale, Sydney Crosby.

Shave his head. Shave his head. Shave

his head.

Ryan Whitney, Paulette, RA, Mike

What is up, folks? Welcome to episode

582 of the Spit and Chickles podcast.

Great to see you guys. First thing, you

know what's coming. I want to shout out

Pink Whitney Keith. He's got the bottle.

And guys, I believe we are exactly 10

days away from the welcome party

for this year's event of the century.

The Boston Stranglers versus the Big

Deal Selects. And Pink Whitney is going

to be flowing. We get the party on

Thursday night at Park City. Mike Shaw,

shout out that new amazing outdoor spot.

Uh, and party's uh Friday night.

Thursday night we're at Harpoon.

Yeah, suck on that. Whit [ __ ] the Boston Tri.

Tri.

I'm I'm going I'm I'm going to Park City.

City.

Yeah. Yeah. You're going to get the team

ready and you're going to drink Pink

Whitney doing it. So, everyone, thank

you so much for supporting the brand,

drinking it the way you do. Uh, I still

can't believe, did you see the We talked

about the root beer and the Pink

Whitney, right? Did we mention that,

Biz? Okay, so I'm still like amazed. I

still haven't tried that one, but just

racking my brain for uh more things to

talk about with Pink Whitney. Biz,

you've been on an amazing wild ride in

Vancouver or outside Vancouver, I should

say. Season one peaking, give us a

grade, one out of 10.

Uh like 25

honestly, like I like I've done a lot of

[ __ ] in my day, boys. Like I got to play

in the NHL.

Uh want to call their cup. Not a big

deal. Um, you know, I've been able to

travel a a lot of places, but uh the

last week of my life has been one of the

most incredible journeys that I've ever

been on. And uh just like I I I I don't

even like I'm it's going to be so hard

to describe everything that we were able

to do, but I'm so excited for you guys

to see season one of peaking. And um

obviously it started off in on the

mainland um in in Vancouver and then it

ended up in uh in um uh like basically

halfway up island where something that

we hadn't even had planned at the start

of the trip. So just the way that it it

took a took a path like organically and

we ended up where we ended up was it was

just magical. So um you guys kind of

want me to just like start about how it

all all like went down.

Yeah. I I I want to know before all of

this, have you smoked weed? So,

So,

because I'm I I was like thinking of you

on this track, this amazing journey

we're going to hear about. I'm like, was he

he

So, so I took a rip out of a bong right

before I left the last place that we

left with a guy named Clint. Um, and he

was the one who who owns this this cabin

where we went to on uh uh I don't want

to [ __ ] up the name. I got it right

here, boys. I had I had to like open up

so many tabs so I don't [ __ ] up the

names of like places we went, but we

finished off the hike on uh Mate or

Mount Albert, Washington, and it's this

like huge peak. We didn't go all the way

to the top, but I would say I would say

five 5/8 of the way up. this this kid's

father or or sorry, excuse me, his

grandfather like bought a bunch of land

like back way back in the day where it

was probably like $5 per acre and and

they donated uh a lot of it back to like

the national park, but they were able to

keep this 13 acre like island that's

surrounded by Moat Lake. So you're like

we like literally hiked up to like six

hours into the mountains of this of this

area and you had to take a little boat

or you could have swam across but we had

all our bags and stuff. So they one of

them got over there and they took a boat

over and that's how we got onto the

island that had cabins where we finished

off the trip with this amazing group of

people we met. And so that was like I

felt like I had to smoke a bowl with him

before I left. Now keep in mind

the father or the kid?

No, the kid. the kid the kid brought all

of us up. And um yeah. Um so as far as

my drug use, I I took

I took

uh I did

and I did uh a bunch of variations of So

that was it was a bit of a journey.

Little weed, four other hard drugs. I

we're got this. We got this. But I

imagine this is all about the setting.

It was the setting. It was the setting.

And it it was is definitely magical

when they're on a hiking trail.

I don't even know.

What is that?

So, surprisingly,

horses are good in the mountains though, Keith.

Keith.

That's true.

Thankfully, I took a little bit like my

body was a little bit banged up. So, as

we started that hike, I probably did it

like an hour in

and like I couldn't feel my legs like in

a positive way where my back wasn't

sore. And I probably I I probably hiked

the whole thing with like a I would say

a 60 to 65 pound pack that had a bunch

of steaks and potato and food in it

along with like my clothing. So when you

do this like you got to

you brought potatoes the heaviest vegetable.

vegetable.

Well, it was it was these guys these

guys were going to be up there longer

than we were. Like their journey was

going to end up continuing. So why don't

I just start from the beginning of the

trip and then get to this part. So

yes. Um, we start we started everything

for peaking on the mainland. So, we went

around like Stanley Park and I got the

show. Wantton Don is who I'm doing this

project with. Uh, Cory is is like the

producer, videographer. He hikes with us

and like kind of a jack of all trades.

He helps edit it with Wanton. And then

we added uh Tyler, a kid like I I think

he's been with Bar Stool for less than a

year and he got added onto this one.

Like we filmed the original pilot in

Tennessee, but it was just me, Wanton,

and Cory. But because we were doing a

full week and it was such a grind, we

added this Tyler kid who was amazing.

And uh we had such a good forum. And so

the first priority was doing um the

grouse grind to kind of test Donniey's

shape. And I talk about doing the grind

all the time. I'm not going to give it

away, but he did pretty solid.

He posted a picture prior to the trip

shirt off next to you. You look pretty

ripped up. And he was I mean he was

getting crushed but but he called

himself out. He's like yeah I I it takes

a lot of balls to post himself. No no no

tarp on next to you. You're working out

six times a day. No

no no doubt. But I will give him a lot

of credit. He is in unbelievable hiking

shape. Like he's a he's a mule where you

would look at his body and be like oh no

he's probably not going to make it like

up to

Keith in hockey.

Kind of like Keith kind of. Well at

least when you started Keith I felt like

you slimmed out as your your career

progressed. Maybe you you watch the

diet. So, um but when we brought Watts

and Gloves on board, shout out to Watson

and Gloves cuz they were one of the two

sponsors that came on board and not only

did we get gloves for the entire trip

when we were like we they have gloves

for fishing, they have gloves for

[ __ ] hiking, uh we ended up mountain

biking, like downhill mountain biking on

the top of Gross Grind, which I think

that that's only been up there for a few

years and like that you can write rent

bikes up there and stuff like that. So,

um, yeah, like they Watson Gloves, one

of the guys who who works there, his his

daughter works for Gross Grant. So, they

were able to facilitate it and we also

then got to feed the two grizzly bears

that were at the top. They Now, people

are say, "Oh, why do they have grizzly

bears in captivity?" Well, they've been

there for I believe they're both turning

25 where uh both of their mothers were

killed when they were cubs. So, like

they wouldn't have survived. So now

those two wi the bears live on the top

of that gross mountain and they have

like their own area and then they feed

them and they they act like like normal

grizzly bears like they go hibernate for

like whatever four or five months during

the winter

and they don't come out.

So what's that?

They are normal grizzly bears.

Are you saying

Yeah. I just meant like even though

they're like they're they were they're

like orphans or however you want to call

them and they're in captivity. Maybe

some people might be like, "Oh, do they

just kind of hang out for the full 12

months cuz like you can go up there

during the winter time and ski and you

can always go check out the bears and

they're super friendly." So that was

like that was day one. And then the next

day we ended up going up to um Whistler

where Donnie had Donniey's really good

at researching and finding what hikes we

should do and he's good at like

siphoning through all the DMs that he's

getting and he chose to do this one that

was russet lake and you have to take

there's two ways to get up. There's more

of like a normal path which we didn't

want to go that way. So, we took the

gondola to a certain point and then that

was when we ended up jumping on the last

podcast. So, that's where like when

you're hiking up, you'll see like like

two different uh peaks where there's

glaciers on them. All of a sudden, you

see that Scottish looking golf course.

So, the type of terrain you're hiking on

and what you're seeing, it is so

stimulating where like one of the most

beautiful places I've ever seen in my

life. So I think it took us about 6 7

hours to finally get there and it was

like as the sun was setting and it was

unreal. They got this fresh lake up top.

You pitch your own tent. You cook your

own food and it's just like obviously

you made the potatoes

potato salad.

So actually we didn't we didn't we

didn't cook at that one. We brought like

dry food. So

So

save the potatoes for the last day so

you can just carry 60 lb.

No no no. We got those supplies the last

day, you [ __ ] [ __ ]

Is this when you had no water? And can

you maybe a really stupid question, can

you fill up and drink the water in like

the lakes there?

You get like tablets.

Yeah. Uh you they have these filters

that you could put on the top of your

water bottle. So when you sip out of it,

it filters the water. Fast forward

though, when we ended up at that Moat

Lake, buddy, we're swimming in the water

and you could drink it. It is the

[ __ ] cleanest water you've like it it

was ridiculous how fresh that water was.

Like I'm literally swimming in the water

and just like drinking water. Obviously

not hosing in it as you know sometimes

we tend to do. Um but going back to to

the russet lake thing and we're like

we're we just finished cooking dinner

and this is a stupid thing. I didn't

realize the moon moved. I just thought

like, oh, if we got a moon night, it's

going to be there in the sky and then

all of a sudden it's there and it

doesn't move and it stays in that spot

until the morning. Like, did you were

you aware that the moon moon rotated

around the earth?

Of course. And I'm not a very highly

educated human, but yeah, I knew that.

Yeah. But either way, so they have this

beautiful peak as we're we have the lake

to the right and we're finished cooking

and we're trying to set up our tent and

then all of a sudden boom, the most

beautiful moon I've ever seen in my

life. It was a completely full moon and

we just sat up there and they taught me

all about the solar system which I had

really no idea about. I also had

remember any of what they told you or

was it kind of like a conversation where

you're like I don't remember what we

went over?

No, I could we could break it down. Like

I was I was captivated by a lot of

conversations and actually the amount of

knowledge that Wanton Don and Cory and

and even Tyler have like um I didn't

know that like they basically kicked

Pluto out of our out of our solar system

like Pluto's on waiverss. Were you aware

of this?

Like for termination of the contract waiverss?

waiverss? Yeah.

Yeah.

Like they got sent down to the [ __ ]

cheese toast league.

Like you you could G can Google it up

and he could put it in the chat. So all

of a sudden we're minus one on a planet

that I had no idea about. Do you know

how long it would take to get to Pluto?

If you to if you took a spaceship

without moving my hands and looking up,

my my guess would be this could be very embarrassing.

embarrassing.

10 years.

Well, I was going to say the same thing.

I was going to say the same thing. I was

like I could be way off.

My first guess in my head was 200 years. No.

No.

And I was like, I think that's crazy.

So, I went to 10.

9 and a half years it would take to get

to Pluto if you were on a ship.

Guys who've been on waiverss know each

other's thoughts, you know, like I'm

close. I've been through that Pluto.

Okay, so here's another one though. To

get out of our solar system, guess how

long it would take until you got out.

Keep in mind, Pluto Pluto was the last

planet until they put it on waiverss.

You know how long it would take?

100 hours.

100 hours. You can't go from 9 and 1/2

years to 100 hours.

I meant 100 years. 100 years. Sorry, not hours.

hours.

No, no, what?

I think you were just going to say 30

35 years to get out of our solar system.

And like another thing like like so once

you get past that like there's obviously

probably other planets and all these

other [ __ ] galaxies and it just keeps

going and going and going. So just just

really learning about a lot of the

things that they were talking about were

it's infinite

infinite. So

and that can actually mess with your

mind if you think about it or it has

with me. You're like you can't wrap your

mind around it.

Yeah. And just talking about like how

like Elon wants to colonize Mars and how

that would even be possible. Um you know

certain planets have like multiple

moons. I like I I don't know if it was

they were talking I don't know if it was

Mars or maybe maybe it was Mercury like

that has like three or four moons. So,

just kind of learning about that type of

stuff, which boy is I have an OHL

education. I didn't really pay

attention. I mean, I [ __ ] took grade

nine geography in grade 12. It was just

cool to learn about it. Um, also learned

a lot about Teddy Roosevelt on the way

down, American President. This guy had

one of the most interesting lives of all

time. And I I I I'm forget most of what

Donnie was saying. I know that he saved

American football. He discovered uh like

he he um he um he had a lot to do with

preserving the national parks like where

he was such an outdoorsman.

I think I'd heard that before, but that

that would align with if you're saying

he had an interesting life and other

stuff. I believe I've heard at least

that a president saved the national

park. Maybe I didn't know it was him.

Yeah, he uh he was actually shot not

while he was president, but he was

giving a speech and the speech he wrote

was so long he folded up the paper and

it was so thick that the bullet went and

and the the speech saved his life. Did

were you aware of that?

The piece of paper like

Donnie was saying that the that the

piece of paper that and this is all

stuff that we're talking about on the on

the way down we were talking about. So,

I guess I kind of got a little bit

sidetracked, but shout out to Teddy

Roosevelt and like everything that he

provided the the way that Donnie

described him. Easily one of the best

presidents the United States have ever

had. Is he on one of the dollar bills?

No, I don't think so. I think so. Unfortunately,

Unfortunately,

how funny would it be if Donald lied to

Biz about all this stuff?

He is on Mount Rushmore.

Yes, he should be. He

This guy sounds like a Mount Rushmore

type. He um unfortunately I believe his

mother and wife passed away on the same day

day

and like he would and then I think yeah

so he was obviously an extremely

resilient guy wanted to go to war um uh

himself um I think that his kid his kid

went to war and his kid passed away in

war and that's what kind of changed his

perspective on like on like fighting and

and going to war in itself. So, he just

kept going on with fact over fact over

fact about Teddy Roosevelt. And I was

just blown away by by um like how how

like I was how big of a [ __ ] man he

was. Uh he beat uh malaria when he was over

over

he he beat malaria when he was overseas

like uh um I think he was or not

overseas he was going through uh through

like the Amazon

and he ended up getting malaria and he

thought he was going to die there like

had a severe leg break and we basically

told this kid like just go on without me

let me die here and his kid was like

absolutely not. So the the the the

bangers that Donnie kept saying about

this guy, I'm like there's no way all

this happened to one person, especially

back then when like I life expectancy

was probably like 60 years old at the time.

time.

He only lived to be 60.

So he lived the life of a thousand men.

So Biz, do you ever have the thought

when when you cuz I I've hung out with

Donnie, great guy.

Is there any part of you that wishes you

knew more about a bunch of stuff? cuz I

don't know anything about anything. I do

enjoy meeting people and getting to

spend time and hearing things like the

way you're describing he's telling you

about all these different things. I love

that. I just wish sometimes I could give

people things. I got nothing. You want

to talk about hockey or golf? I got you.

Uh that's not true. You're you're

knowledgeable about a lot of stuff like

you're you're being a little bit

I could never teach about Teddy Roosevelt.

Roosevelt.

I I know. And and I think there's a a a

few if not a lot of people from Bar

Stool that are just very knowledgeable

especially when it comes to history like

those uh rediscovering America guys

um like Nikki Clicky KB uh wantton Cory

who helps with that show like they're

just like well-versed and well read and

I think that this trip

like we remember how we joked about

reading a couple pods ago and how I need

to start reading. I think that this has

definitely like captivated my interest

in learning a lot more about history and

just being able to like have dialogue

about this crazy [ __ ] that's happened in

our past for us to even be able to, you

know, live the lives that we live. Um

like we were talking about um like the

like the ice age and all that type of

stuff. I won't go too too deep into that

right now, but um but long story short,

we we hiked down and and it was about a

6-hour journey, but we went the other

way. So, we went the hard way up to

Rustet Lake and then down like the quote

unquote easier leg. But for anybody

who's hiked long distances, the way down

is the pain in the ass because it really

[ __ ] up your knees.

And then we spent the night in uh in

Whistler. Uh brought the boys for for a

real nice dinner. And then the next day

it was off to uh to the island where we

take we took the BC ferry from Horseshoe

Bay over to Ni Naimo which is pretty

much like halfway up island on the

interior side. And it was cool because

they got to experience taking that ferry

and the and the beautiful sights out of

um um Horseshoe Bay. And if if like you

guys have never you've never been to

Whistler, have you

Yans? No.

There's a there's there's a there I

figured you hadn't went, but there's

this sea to sky highway that on the way

up and down where you're just seeing all

these different mountain ranges, whether

it's like Pender Island and all these

different islands on off of the coast of

of the mainland of BC. So, it's one of

the most renowned beautiful highways, I

would say, at least in North America, if

not the world. And then when we got to

Nimo, we drove straight up to to a place

called Tofino. Now, Tofino is is a a a

town of 2500 people with, but it's

almost like unescribable. It it it like

it has like the Pacific Northwest um

vegetation, but it feels like you're in

like kind of like Hawaii. And I I posted

a video of it on on Twitter and then and

then on Instagram. I don't know if you

guys had the ability to check it out,

but it's also one of the best uh remote

um surfing places in the world. And um I

don't even Are we dropping Tyson Barry

for the interview today? Yes.

Yes.

Okay. Just so Tyson Barry put me in

touch. He goes up there all the time.

Like we're neighbors here in in Oak Bay

in Victoria. He put me in touch with the

the goat of Canadian surfing named Pete

Dere. So we were able to link up with

him. We went to this Long Beach surf

shop. These guys had reached out even

prior. Completely took care of us. Got

us our boards, our wets suits. Unreal

guys. Like their kids play hockey. Got

to spend a little time with them getting

to know their staff. And then we got to

go like I I'd been surfing one time, but

I couldn't even get on the board. But we

got to go with the Canadian Goat and and

Donnie who surfed before and surf in one

of the most remote places in the world

to surf. And

how big are these waves? They like some

of them were getting to like eight to 10 feet.

feet.

Oh, so legit. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Legit.

I'm I'll save it for the video. I don't

How cold was the water?

The water's cold, so you got to wear a

wet suit. But those wet wet suits I I

went in later that night like no suit

cuz I like getting in the cold water at

least for a little bit. But those suits,

although restricting, they keep you

warm. It's basically like you're a

[ __ ] like a seal.

Um, and we did that in Cox Bay. Um, and

then there's like a little like little

micro hike. It takes about 15 minutes to

get up and then you get the view of the

entire uh little bay there. And I just

got to like obviously there's a lot of

people to thank like obviously Pete

Deere's like Long Beach surf shop but my

friend Mike Mai who married my good

friend Cal Connor's uh sister Sophie

like they gave us their place on the

water in Tofino like this unbelievable

shack for the for the 3 days that we

were there. So we were right on the

beach with that view that you guys saw

on the live stream. So we got completely

dialed in. Um, and then the next day we

got hooked up through uh Dan Ham, who's

former hockey player. He owns um a

restaurant and like a a marina in Tofino

and they got this restaurant there

called Shelter that he owns with a

couple guys. So, we end up going out

with this guy. He puts us in touch with

Lance. We go to this unreal remote

fishing spot that's probably like 354

minutes off the dock. Um, and we go

salmon fishing. will not uh spoil any of

that. Obviously, we caught some. And

then in that little where the marina is

in that bay area,

two, three times a year, you might see

orcas in there. Orca whales.

Sure as [ __ ]

buddy. We [ __ ] dock the boat. We go

up to shelter. The Brazilian chef was

kind enough to take the fish that we

just caught. He He cooks it up for us.

And in the midst of him cooking it,

cooking it, the a couple Chicklets fans

who were on other boards boats, they

were telling Donnie like, "Yo, there's

orcas out there cuz they saw a big blood

spill cuz they just killed like a like

um like a whatever like a sea lion or

something, right? That's how they eat.

They [ __ ] kill those things." And and

sure enough, there was like a pack of

four or five of them. So me and Donnie

get back on the boat with Lance. We go

out there and we get to [ __ ] watch

these killer whales from from like you

can't get too close. It's like they

don't want you the Coast Guard like

they'll come at you and and so we got to

see [ __ ] killer whale whales on our

trip. Like what what are the chances? So

we get lucky with just all this weather

and all this timing. The fact that this

place was willing to cook up this food

for us. We get back, we have this

unbelievable fresh salmon meal with

risoto prepared for us. It was just like

it it was it was top tier. And so this

is so uh that was kind of like the the

last like special part of Tofino. So we

had to leave the next day where we were

going to do this lone cone trail in

Tofino to end it all off because hiking

is the premise of the show where we want

to do a big hike. So this um guy named

Tyler Turner Whit and Yans he's um like

a a a par how do you say like a a

parolympian like where he he

so he he he lost his legs in a skydiving

accident and yeah just he tough tough

bounce like I don't know if he pulled

the chute too late and he he lost both

of his legs and um he was having a very

difficult time like after it all

happened and this former uh football

player a retired guy. His name is David

Vabbora. And I don't know if you've

heard of this guy. He was Mr.

Irrelevant. He was drafted last overall

the year he was drafted to the Rams.

Played five years in the NFL. And

[ __ ] that's a legit career.

Legit career.

Big played five years.

Played five years. And he he was telling

me stories how I didn't realize Mr.

Irrelevant, like they bring you to

Disneyland. Like they they kind of treat

you like you're the first Yeah. They

kind Yeah. Mr. irrelevant. The last

draft in the last pick in the draft

every year in the NFL, they like treat

you to this like weekend with your

family. Like they fly you around and

it's kind of like funny. I think they

present you with a trophy but not like

the Heisman, the guys fumbling the ball.

Like it it's [ __ ] it's it's

hilarious. He was explaining all this.

So his last year in the NFL with he blew

out his shoulder bad and he ended up

getting addicted to opiates and

obviously eventually turned his life

around and like he he needed to find his

next purpose and uh he started this

charity and it's called Adaptive

Training Foundation where he he has a

gym in Dallas, Texas and he takes people

there's two I didn't realize how many

people um lose limbs every year and and

you know uh what's the what's the term

I'm looking for when you when you lose a limbation

limbation

ampute 250,000 of them a year um that

happens right and he has this foundation

where it's all funded where they take

the people who have gone through this

and the these like unfortunate events

they bring them there for nine weeks

they train them they they teach them how

breathing um how to recover and just

completely take them out of their world

and the dark place that they're in and

and rehabilitate them to provide them

like like you know the tools to to

continue their life and and change

Powerful stuff.

It was an emotional trip um at the end.

So this Tyler Turner kid where when that

happened to him, this David reached out

to him and at first Tyler was like,

"Yeah, yeah, buddy. [ __ ] former NFL

guy. He has handsome guy. Has everything

going for him. Yeah. Yeah. You're going

to [ __ ] turn my life around cuz he

was such in the dumps about being paralyzed.

paralyzed.

And then finally went down there and

completely changed his life and and got

him back into shape. Four and a half

year years later, he ends up winning a

gold for team Canada at the Parolympics

on a snowboarding. Wow.

Wow. And

And

wow, what a story, dude.

Incredible. So this Tyler Turner reaches

out to me via DM because he heard on the

podcast he listens to Chicklets about

connecting with us because

through that foundation he stayed

involved with this uh David Babbora and

this other kid from the island that

Tyler knew he was he was doing wheelies

and he went the wrong way and he got hit

by a truck and ended up losing his leg.

Same same thing. He was in a dark place.

Tyler says, "Buddy, we're going to hook

you up with this David guy. We're going

to go down to Texas. We're going to

rehabilitate you and and get you get

your confidence back and get you on the

right track. So,

like I was in the same place, man. Like just

just

same [ __ ] place. Same [ __ ] place. So,

So,

they they always have like a oh [ __ ]

goal um after their nine weeks, right?

And their goal was to get to the top of

this uh Mount Albert, Washington, which

is um it's uh Mount Albert Edward in uh

Strath Kona Provincial Park on Vancouver

Island near Mount Washington Alpine

Resort. So that we actually went to the

resort to start this whole hike and they

were these guy like he he lost one leg.

Tyler's got no legs and they wanted to

hike all the way to the top of this

mountain. Um, there's a picture of the

whole group, right? That's their that's

their group of guys. And the the guy in

the far right here, he he was a former

NFL player. He ended up playing with

with David um in Minnesota. So, he helps

out at that gym down there. Um, and

obviously there's a few other amputees

that were would join us. The one guy

there is Clint who owns the the the the

camp like the lodge up on that Moat

Lake. Um, and so like obviously he knew

Tyler. So they set this whole thing up

where we were going to hike up together

to that Moat Lake and that was going to

be the end of our journey cuz these

other guys had to get back but they were

going to continue. though. Um, this

Chase kid who's also a Chicklets fan, we

and through Tyler reaching out instead

of doing this lone cone hike in in

Tofino, we're like Donnie is

facilitating the whole thing via text

while I'm driving and we end up linking

up with these guys and going to this

resort and we did the hike up to this Mo

Lake with him and just kind of learn

about this whole story and this David

Babbora guy and what he's doing and and

what he's providing these people as much

as he can, right? like he he raises the

money and everything is paid for. They

fly these guys down. He personally

trains them for the nine weeks like and

he just you know becomes a massive part

of their life not only for that nine

weeks but forever and and so you know we

did that hike we got to spend some time

with them. Obviously, there was a day in

between for them to eventually peak and

get to the top because they they had to

get rest because

boys, it's it's like it's hard on their

bodies, right? Like they [ __ ]

[ __ ]

buddy. Like like like Tyler, he's like I

can't even like externally rotate my my

legs. So they're like kind of like

swinging it around.

So it just like like for me personally

like just like getting to hear these

stories and and like like you know puts

a a lot into perspective, right? like so

so makes you like so grateful dude and

oh it was

and like the feeling of the [ __ ] that

you complain about not you anyone or

like bothers you and then you're like

that's I mean I've never wanted to watch

something more than this biz I can't

wait to see this I could tell it it was

a trip of a lifetime for you based on

kind of what you were saying and then

your tweet today even like you put that

out there I'm like Oh, this meant a lot

to him to be to kind of describing it

that way on Twitter.

Yeah. And it just, you know, obviously

it was going to be fun and we're going

to do all these amazing things, but just

for it to like naturally take that

course and of course like um Tyler

Turner like for reaching out and and

facilitating all that and like kind of

just allowing us to have that experience

like it was meant to be and it was it

was a life-changing trip and yeah, I'm

I'm really looking forward to everyone

seeing it and as like as like sad as

this is and and me crying at the end and

how emotional it is and also like we had

to say bye to them and we We each gave

him like a, you know, our peeking shirt.

Like I was I was sobbing like I can't,

you know me, I'm an emotional guy. I

can't keep it together. And probably

didn't help that I just finished a a

bong rip and I really get my feels when

I smoked the weed, but I had to do one

with Clint cuz he's the one. It's his

family's cabin and he did it all and it

was kind of like an honor. I'm back off

the weed, folks. Don't worry. Okay.

Okay.

But uh yeah, like I there's there's so

many laughs along the way. There's so

many twists and turns. Like there's so

many characters we end up meeting. So,

um, I hope I didn't forget anyone along

the way who who like helped us and and

were a big part of that trip. So,

when's it going to come out, you think?

I think that it's probably going to take

uh probably take at least a month, if

not like 6 weeks to edit, and then it'll

be a two episode season 1 of Peaking.

And, uh, this is going to be the start

of something special. And um, we're I

think we're going to have to go to

Dallas for a Pink Whitney event. I would

love to go with you guys to to David

Babbora's gym and just kind of create

more awareness and no doubt.

Yeah. To this um I I want to make sure I

say the name one more time of it. It's

uh the adaptive training foundation

and uh and what they're doing is is just

[ __ ] amazing, dude. And I can't

imagine the place that these guys are in

when those tragedies first happen about

lo, you know, losing limbs, losing both

your legs and thinking like your life's

never going to be the same to then like

turning around where buddy this Tyler

Turner, he's he [ __ ] base jumps, he

[ __ ] skydives, he snowboard, like

nothing's holding these guys back after

they get with David. And it was um it

was magical. So I know I've been

long-winded, boys. I appreciate you

letting me talk about all this and um

you know

amazing rundown.

Yeah. I I love you boys. like the videos

that or the pictures and videos you sent

us like your smile like you know you're

happy in pictures and you know whenever

we're taking pictures but like your

genuine smile on that trip and to hear

you give that breakdown and we all know

you have the biggest heart in the world

and you do anything for anyone and it's

it's honestly it was like the first time

I've ever been like oh my god this guy

is in such a [ __ ] good place right I

wish I like I really wish I was with you

although I would never go hiking but

I was going to say maybe We get the

look. Maybe there's a there's a chicklet

peeking crossover and we do one of

these, Keith. They'll try to bury us.

You'll do that Blue Hill and around the

corner from your house.

I do that with the kids once a week. We

rip up Blue Hill.

So, we we we do feature a micro hike in

that Cox Bay which is 15 minutes. So,

it's kind of funny in the midst of doing

these massive ones where you just do the

small one. Like we were even talking

about like Frank's been doing the Frank

walks like let's get [ __ ] Frank on

one of these and Yan's we're eventually

going to head to the the New England

area to do it and

New England.

Isn't it called New England?

Yeah, it's just I think you said the New

England. It just cracks me up. It made I

said the New England area.

Oh, okay.

Where is their good hike? Like Vermont,

New Hampshire. Is there good hiking?

They have one in Maine and they have, I

believe, one in New Hampshire. And

they're two of the the

more challenging and and biggest peaks

in the United States. And I believe he

said the one in

is it called Mount Washington?

Yeah, that's the one in New Hampshire.

You see the bumper stickers everywhere.

This car climbed Mount Washington. It's

like big deal. Why do you have that

bumper sticker on the back?

And and I think that like I I get what

you're saying, an I think that some

people might be like, well, hiking's a

little boring for me and it's just not

my thing. For me, like I'm just like

with our jobs, we're so much on our

phone and in technology and stress and

like, you know, flying around TNT, like

trying to juggle all these things. Like

for me, it just kind of gives me a

reset. And for that, you know, that

probably 30 to 35 hours, like I have no

service. So, it's just good sometimes to

just get away and like, you know, the

people trying to reach out to you can't

get to you. And it almost forces you to

just kind of be in the moment and live

in the in in the present. And, you know,

I have a difficulty doing that. and and

and that's what what what hiking

provides for me along with, you know,

some some some form of workout. So, um

yeah, just uh

great trip.

Yeah, magical week. Appreciate you boys

letting me break it down and and

appreciate everybody listening letting

me break that down. But shout out to

David and dude, I love you boys. It's a

it's a very it's it's a you just put on

an alltime Oscar worthy trailer.

That's what I'm going to say. A video

that just makes makes me want to tune

in. So, good video. want to watch the

show tomorrow though and not in a month

like that that hurts.

Can I wrap up a couple things Biz quick?

Yeah. And then I was just going to say

thank you to Watson Gloves who I don't

know how many new listeners we have.

Like they allowed me in the past to do

two commercials where they gave us Carl

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where he's like, "Hey yo, I saw that

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he came up and we became buddies. So he

owns the company. And so thank you for

to those two brands for facilitating

that. And uh yeah, that's all I got. I

think one of the most valuable things

you did learn on that trip was that the

moon rotates around the earth and chat

GPT says that uh

you learned that in fourth grade on

average. So

I love that you know that

I thought that I know I I knew the sun

did or no does the sun rotate around the

earth or do we rotate around the sun?

I believe we rotate around the sun and

[ __ ] I don't even know if I'm right on

that. [ __ ] I I'm just going to shut up

on the solar system.

We rotate around the sun. I I had that

one. [ __ ] Okay. Biz. Teddy Roosevelt. I

mean, the first American to win the

Nobel Peace Prize, which he received in 1906

1906

for mediating a peace agreement to end

the Russia Japanese war. That's big

time. So,

big time.

I I I I just I can't wait to check all

this stuff out. Um, in the hockey world,

Biz, have you have you kind of heard

anything? you know what's going on or

are we going to be able to

I got a couple thing I got a couple

things I want to say cuz I missed the

big chatter last week about uh um

McDavid all the McDavid like like

my opinion is is I want people to stop

asking him about signing. I want you to

leave him the [ __ ] alone at least till

after the Olympics. Leave Conor McDavid

alone. He's got bigger fish to fry. He's

going to win our country a gold medal.

So any of you American reporters, when

he's on the road this season, I don't

want to [ __ ] hear you asking about

him extending, he's going to focus on

this year, I don't care if they're out

of a playoff spot by the time the

Olympics rolls around. Let him focus on

winning a gold medal. And the same goes

for all those Crosby rumors. I don't

want to hear I don't want to hear about it.

it.

You invented them.

Stop living in the past. I don't want to

hear a [ __ ] thing about Crosby moving

on. Paper may is even talking about a

little bit. Crosby, leave him alone till

after the Olympics. I want them focusing

on winning a gold. Enough with all this.

I will say the theme going in right now

is all the stars around the league,

right? McDavid not signed, maybe Crosby

on the move, all of a sudden this Capri

off rumor slash I don't really know if

it's a rumor. Uh Bill Garren putting out

that fire. Uh we all know that Quinn

Hughes is it's it's a that's a ticking

that's a ticking time bomb, right? like

Quinn Hughes is leaving, right?

Uh that one we can get into that that's

an it is all the studs. It's kind of NBA

style and I absolutely love it. The big

dogs are in the news. And in fairness in

fairness, these guys, a lot of them like

they're they haven't even done or or

said anything. Like Quinn Hughes has

asked about playing with his brother.

Like that's the been the most overblown

thing ever. McDavid just hasn't signed a

contract. Capri off hasn't signed a

contract either. They're in the news,

but they really haven't done anything to

No, no. Time out. Quinn Hughes is American.

American.

Like they're doing bad things.

Quinn Hughes is American, so I'm going

to be talking about that every

Okay, we're going straight Olympic. He

You were in Canada in the woods and

you've just found this new national

pride that's just taking over your

taking over your like fandom within the

NHL. You're just all based on Canada

winning a gold

until after the Olympics. You know, you

know Theodore Roosevelt was American, right?

right?

Doesn't mean I don't respect what he did

as a president.

You also know that that has nothing to

do with it.

You also know that

I know he's I know he's going to be

disappointed with you guys not winning

the gold, but

but

No, it sounds like you're wor It sounds

like you're worried about the Americans

cuz you want everyone to leave your

Canadians alone and then bring the heat

on our Americans.

Yeah. You're trying to slow us down.

No, I don't I don't need to bring the

heat. They're bringing it on themselves.

We got [ __ ] Lane Hudson's old man

talking about trying to move over to

Canada. Like this is bringing it on themselves.

themselves.

You guys are self-destructing before the

He's not on the team. He's not on You're

bringing up the American media with

McDavid. Yeah, that that they're they're

the problem when this gets out of hand

when he's asked every day. Although he's

going to say, "I'm not answering any

questions once the season starts if he

hasn't signed." But Biz, the the Crosby

rumors, we're dropping an unreal

interview with Tyson Barry. It's great.

In that interview, you you bring up the

Crosby rumors. So, this is a new post

peak in season 1 biz. This was this we

did this interview like 10 days ago.

That's living in the past and I'm no

longer there. Okay.

Okay.

I just said that this hike reset me on

living in the present and that's what

we're going to do. We're not going to

live in the past.

Okay. I'm learning. I'm adapting. I'm

going to read. I'm going to read more.

So, a lot of new things around here.

Lifechanging trip. No more drama. Cross

to the halves. Halves or the abs?

I don't want to talk about that. You

almost got us close.

close.

We all know. We all know what's going to

happen cuz I've been saying it for

years, but we're not talking about it

until it does.

So, if it happens, do you not get the credit?

credit?

No, Keith. We get to talk about it and

he's going to sit there and listen. He's

going to at one point he won't be able

to not say what's on his mind. So, don't

worry. It'll be in the news. I mean, it

is crazy that it is somewhat being

discussed, biz, because when Bran comes

out and and here's the quotes. Uh, Bran

made headlines this week suggesting

Crosby could actually be traded. It's

always a possibility. You know, it's

been three years, they haven't made the

playoffs. It all depends on how Sid is

going to be and how the team is going to

do. Brassant said Crosby's under

contract. So, yeah, it's one of those

things. That's the hard part about it.

So I for him to he would I don't think

he would say that without talking to Sid

first, right? Like it's almost in my

mind like he might be the one that's

like speaking for him where Sid's

telling him I'm not

like Sid. Wait, Sid came out today and

said that he did not speak with Pat

Bersan before he made that statement.

Wow. That's that's just what Sid said.

That actually came out today. I missed that.

that.

I mean, if they're if they're horrible,

I respect the hell out of him if he

wants to stay there.

I think every hockey fan would feel a

little robbed. So, you know, I'm not

him. I'm just like giving would any any

hockey fan other than Penguins fans not

be absolutely fired up to see him on

another team that's competing for the

Stanley Cup and has a chance to go on a

run in the playoffs.

I I don't think so.

I think of it as the Ray Bour situation

even though Sid's already won a cup. But

yeah. Yeah. It's one of those things

everyone I think everyone in Pittsburgh

would be rooting for him just cuz he's

he's earned whatever he wants to do. if

he wants to stay, good on him. Like

playing for one team your whole career

would be incredible. And you know, to do

it the way he did it as well. But if he

wanted to go somewhere else, he has all

the rights to do that. And

I think it would be amazing. Like

imagine him going to a team that's like

not even like the number one team, a

team that's fighting to get in. He gets

them in. Like him in playoffs just

mucking it up. Like it would be amazing.

So it it's it's similar to Brady, but

even in in a better way for Sid that

that was just like the team was like,

"Hey, you know, they they lowballed him,

right? And then he's it finally ended.

All the stuff you've heard, Bellich,

Craft, Brady, the contracts,

he goes and wins." And every Patriots

fan was still rooting for him.

Sids would almost be like, "I I think

everyone would understand. I just I just

want to get one more cup. I've done.

We've done everything we possibly could

have done in in in these 20 years. But

as I prefaced it, if that guy is like, I

just want to be a Penguin my entire

career. I want to chase all the records.

I I he already has a statue. Then I I

would respect it. I would respect him

for it. But for Biz to think this isn't

going to be like a story. I mean, it's

probably one of the craziest things

you've ever heard. And if you do live in

the present, it's presently a story. So,

no no comment. Our

Our

our focus is on Milan. Okay.

Okay. I

I

All right. I can't wait for these

Olympics. Are we going? By the way,

100 I would go 100%.

Like 1,000% I would go there.

I wouldn't be shocked if Team Canada

flew me on their plane. I I think I

might be going over with the team. I

think they're going to probably add me

to the coaching staff. [ __ ] I mean, I'm

pretty tight with talking. I'll fly

underneath the [ __ ] plane. Just give

me like a tranquilizer pill or whatever

the [ __ ] they do.

You have that already?

Give me a couple Xanax or what? Is that

what they use to to to sleep on, you

know, Xanax? Is that what they use?

Biz, do you think do you think C uh

Malcin and Latang would be pissed at him

But my focus is on Milan.

[ __ ] I tried to get him.

Um, okay. So, Russia's not in the

Olympics, but Carell Capriovv's in the

news biz. You mentioned him. Apparently,

he turned down what would have been the

richest contract in NHL history. 8 years

times 16 million.

Then reports came out that

that he knows there's teams that are

willing to go 1920 million a year. [Music]

[Music]

He's got the other side of it where the

owner and I believe when the owner

originally had these comments about we

will we blank check. I think we might

have said at the time like oh I mean

this I mean this nobody has it better

than Capriov. So, if he's been saying that,

that,

I'm not that shocked he said no to that deal.

The cap's going.

I also and and this is like it's not a

it's not like a knock. I do feel like I

feel like the new wave of NHL superstar,

they kind of want to play in the big

smoke more. Like they want like Hey,

there was that photo that came out. He

was hanging out with uh Shurkin in New York.

York.

That that picture was a basketball.

Oh, that was a fake photo. I got I got duped.

duped.

I don't think it was fake. I just think

it was from like two three years ago

from May of 2023. Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay. So, that was sent to the group

chat and like then I was on my hike. So,

I kind of maybe didn't get the text that

that was an old photo. So, somebody was

trying to stir it up online being like,

"Oh, he's playing tummy sticks with the

R rangers. This is tampering." blah blah

blah blah blah. I would just

I would just assume that some of these

guys like want to play in in bigger

markets. Now I I Billy Garren said that

that's it's not true and that it got out

and that they didn't offer him that

contract. Like that's basically what

Billy G said, right? Like this is not

true. I just think it's common knowledge

that whatever the 20% or the max is a

player could sign for for eight years

that is being offered to him. Like they

are begging him to sign that right now.

So whether they did it when people

speculated it or it was 4 months ago

it's that's happened. Like he has been

offered that and he hasn't currently

signed that. I also think that

I think that there's so many superstars

coming up in free agency and all of a

sudden the cap is jumping the way that

it's jumping. It's just created a whole

another mess for some of these teams to

try to be like ah

no one and and player I don't think a

player wants to be the first to go.

So that's also what's being talked about

is is these other the basically these

guys are waiting for the first domino to

fall and then it'll just set the

precedent and then boom over that over

that over that. So

you I mean you you could go under it a

little bit depending on the player

but if you go first and all of a sudden

like guys that that you're you're

in your own mind saying I'm as good as

this guy like I deserve what he's making

and he's making two three million more.

You're like, now that goes back to the

argument of like how many hundred the

Merles, how many hundreds of millions do

you need? You know, like if you did if

he if he really likes Minnesota, like I

don't think Wild fans should be

panicking. I I think that he's probably

just going to maybe be say, "All right,

so if he if he likes Minnesota, he's

just going to go back to them and say

like, give me this."

So, let me ask you this. Is

and they have to now

given the fact that he's got one year

left on his deal. Same thing with

McDavid. Can like what at what point do

they have to wait till does it have to

be after July 1st to where that new that

new money hits as far as what the cap is

to or based on the fact that they the

deal wouldn't start till next year. They

can still give them that amount now cuz

at a certain point like let's say

currently that the most that you could

make as an individual player on a team

because you're capped at I believe 20%.

Let's say right now that 20% based on

the cap is like somewhere in that 16 to

18 range. I don't know what the exact

number is, but once July 1st hits, is

that when now they can offer them

whatever that new cap number will be

or could they sign that right now

because that deal wouldn't kick in till

next year anyway?

Or do they say you could sign a

percentage of what the cap is next year

right now? Like I I see what that's what

you're asking, right?

Yeah. Is is is also that maybe why like

remember Elliot Freeman would probably

have this researched and know it. I

haven't really gone through the

collective bargaining agreement. You

know, maybe I should catch up on my

reading with that instead of [ __ ]

about Teddy Roosevelt first, but I don't

like at what point does that number hit?

And if if these guys have to wait till

next summer in order to finally get that

three4 million jump, that's it's worth

the wait, man. Because

wouldn't wouldn't they just say that though?

though?

No, because hockey players hockey

players aren't like that. It's the same

reason why part of the reason they might

be waiting for that first domino to fall

is so they're not being labeled as

greedy for taking that 18 19% of what

the cap is, right? So if McDavid is

waiting for Capri off to to that domino

to fall and let's say Capri off which I

heard the same thing you guys like

there's I heard there's a few teams and

I I think Caprioff's chasing the

absolute top dollar and McDavid might

not be that guy where he does leave a

little a little crumb extra for the rest

of the guys as opposed to taking that

full 20%. But like if Capri off takes

it, McDavid doesn't look as bad taking

it cuz like nobody would everyone's

going to be like, "Fuck, he's [ __ ] the

same as Capri off. What a hometown

discount that team's getting." So part

of it is waiting for that number to be

larger and and also part of it is I

believe public perception. But this is

the last thing I will say about McDavid

given the fact that it is Canada

related. We all know what's going to

happen. He's going to play out the year

and then he's coming to the Toronto

Maple Leaf. But we're not talking about

it anymore. Okay.

None. We're done.

I saw Marner uh was playing in the

Vegas. I don't know. It was the Golden

Knights, maybe their sponsor golf event

when the players always play. And he had

a sick move on him. Nice swing.

And I honestly I just figured like

they're out every year early. Like no

wonder he's got a great swing. is who

who

you know Mner

Mner who?

who? MNER.

MNER.

Mner cuz you know who he played for

past couple years? Toronto.

Toronto.

I you know what I I I

was hard on Mner and I'm like honestly

my I'm just happy that Why are you

laughing? I'm just genuinely happy he's

out of that circus for himself for his

own sake. I think that that he didn't

help his own situation where

the like the money that he commanded out

of his entry level and if he would have

signed for a million and a half less

but they offered it to him. What

What

that money like he didn't like they

offered him that contract.

How do you say no?

I'm saying originally I'm saying like

I'm happy he's out of Toronto. It sucks

what he dealt with [ __ ] being there

but I'm happy that he's gone. But yes,

going back to his golf swing, I'm sure

it's great. He's hanging out in Mscoa

[ __ ] in and you know, he's there by

the beginning of June cuz he ain't

playing. He's [ __ ] there middle of

May for crying out loud.

Biz, um, are there any uh big deal

selects? Is there any news in that world?

world?

Um, we're going to keep things internal

right now for right now. I did hear that

one of the Boston Stranglers who was

invited to the tournament

asked if Chicklets could fly his

girlfriend in for the tournament as

well. Now, I don't know exactly where

the Boston Strangers focus are is coming

into this ball hockey tournament, but

I'll tell you this. If one of our

players thought about flying in his girl

during these very intense two days of

ball hockey, I don't think he'd be

seeing the ball hockey court. Now,

that's the difference between you and I

know what my players need. I know some

guys, you know, might need their old

lady in town to not go out at night.

Like Terry Ryan could probably use an

old lady in town. And Terry Ryan Ryan

Senior could probably use an old lady in town.

town.

I'm sure he's got a I'm sure Terry

Ryan's got a few.

Yeah. So,

but he ain't he ain't flying them in.

Well, hey, you you manage your team like

you do and keep losing first round like

the [ __ ] Leafs and your golf swing

will be like Marner soon enough. But

yeah, it's it's whatever my team wants.

And I think it's unfair that you uh

wouldn't pay for them seeing that your

whole team is getting flown in. But um

it's all right. It's fine. I'll pay for it.

it.

Wow. Okay. Interesting.

Very true. Keith,

wait. You're You're okay with that? I

feel like we're talking time out.

I think that this is hypocritical cuz if

you found out one of my players was

trying to fly in their girl, I think I

would be getting scalded. So, I feel

like this is an absolute double standard.

standard.

I don't I don't think I'd say a word

about that guy getting away with his

wife. Maybe they have kids and you know,

I'm going to play this ball hog tour.

I'm going go to a great city in Boston

and catch a

catch a game, go on a duck tour, you

know, and and you get to watch me do

something I love. And it's like

it's kind of one of those family things,

B. I don't know if you know, but they

fly in

they fly in the wives when the team can

win the Stanley Cup.

They fly in the families. And it's it's

interesting for me to to hear you be

like, "Yeah, we're just the boys [ __ ]

getting after it in Boston. Yeah, we

lose every year, but we party hard." And

there's another team that's like, I want

my family around when I get a a title in

a beautiful city against a complete

clown, Paul Besonette.

Well said, right.

I I I really really think you guys would

be singing a different tune if this role

was reversed, but I guess go with

whatever go with whatever narrative you want.

want. Yeah,

Yeah,

I know where our focus is at and the big

deal selects are all business. Uh Con

man, who I was very critical of last

year. I'll give you guys a little

update. He's running every [ __ ] day.

Con man's in the best shape of his life.

And when that's the case, he's gonna be

[ __ ] sniping game in game out. And we

got our first line superstar back.

And I thought he was a D man.

No offense.

He's a He's a forward nifty.

He's a cherry picker.

Cherry big redhead.

No, that's Pender. Pender's got bigender.

bigender.

You haven't even been studying. What?

You haven't been watching game tape?

Your your games aren't [ __ ] even

televised because you guys are in the

losers bracket every year. Chicklets

doesn't even drop you guys. It's

Merles's team versus [ __ ] Patrick

Sharp. Beat it.

Uh, hey, Spit and Chicklets YouTube

channel. Over 400,000. Go watch some

game tape. It's on the vlog.

Is that what we're at now, Biz? 400,000.

Oh, we're over 400k, bro.

Hey, we're on tile, too, Biz, which is huge.

huge. What?

What?

We're on tile, too. It's not cement.

What? We got the quartz.

Yep. That's that that's all of them have

quartz this year.

No. So, uh, Roller A and Street A will

have uh MS3 surface, which you got to

give a shout out to Bobby Hower, member

of the Big Deal Selects. His family owns

the company. He said, "No more." He

said, "We're bringing in the Big Deal

Selects need a nice surface, so we're

bringing in some surface."

That was the only chance. I've been

hearing about this surface since the

beginning of time with this tournament

and they've all said

all the big deal select said if we ever

had a good surface we would be drumming

everyone. So

we're going to run the table now that

was that with Yan's team we they would

have wanted to play in a gravel pit.

We could uh we could use this guy in net

for one of the teams. I I would take him

for sure with Mark Andre Flurry. I don't

know if you saw Did you see the picture

that was sent to the group chapters of all

all

Yeah. him in his three rings with the

robe on

and the trophy. Yeah, he just he signed

a PTO with the Pens. I love that. I love

that move. That's an old school move

back in the day. Thinking of an old

baseball player signing a one-day

contract. Actually, Rizzo did it, too.

Did you see that, Keith?

Did you see almost catch the ball?

That would have been the most insane on

a on a Anthony Rizzo day. He goes to the

bleachers to drink a beer and a home run

comes directly. It hit him in the hand.

I I he caught that. But he bought the

entire stadium a beer. Seriously?

Seriously?

Yeah. I saw I I saw something like they

were people were giving out tickets. I

don't know. It was the entire stadium.

That's thanks to Bob does sports cuz all

the money that we took off from that day

playing golf. So Bob paid for those

beers. Uh unre if he had caught that

would have been unbelievable. Like

but did you see one thing I saw? He had

all the people in the stand sign his

jersey that he has. Like that was cool.

like you could tell he just really loved

being a part of that team. Yeah.

Yeah.

Baseball would be in my opinion the the

most fun pro sport to play as far as I

want to say they don't have pressure cuz

you got to [ __ ] get up there and you

got to hit the ball but just that like

the downtime not as strenuous on the

body uh laidback. You're always in the

clubhouse with the boys. You're you're

in each city for 4 days. You're not just

in and out. So that would be that would

be an absolute blast. And you've hung

out with him yet. He just seems like the

best guy. He kind of like looks like a

little bit like Brooks Kepka to me. Like Yeah.

Yeah.

Doesn't he?

Yeah, he does.

Yeah. But uh what like what's the

funniest thing about him? Like what's

like on the golf course? Is he a chirper?

chirper?

Not really. He's pretty quiet. Yeah.

Just stand. I mean he's just like any

other athlete. He's chirping. He's

saying, you know, he hits a good shot.

He's like, "Yeah, you know, like come

on. I played in the bigs for 15 years.

Like you got to expect things like But

yeah, no, he's very humble, laid-back

guy. He was actually he was my neighbor

down here for a while, so I've known him

for a bit. He was telling a funny story.

Like I had a boat and I know nothing

about boats. Like I had never even been

on a boat before I bought it. And one

day I apparently I was on the lift and

he was like out in his backyard watching

me cuz I told him I'm like, "Yeah, I'm

getting a boat. I know nothing about him." All of a sudden the boat was still

him." All of a sudden the boat was still on the lift, but I had the engine on and

on the lift, but I had the engine on and I'm revving the engine. He's like, "What

I'm revving the engine. He's like, "What the [ __ ] is this kid?" He was like, "Me

the [ __ ] is this kid?" He was like, "Me and my wife stood out there for like 15

and my wife stood out there for like 15 minutes laughing at you and hoping you

minutes laughing at you and hoping you didn't die." I'm like, "Yeah, it's not

didn't die." I'm like, "Yeah, it's not not good."

not good." You could have yelled out like, "Dude,

You could have yelled out like, "Dude, dude, you're you're still in the

dude, you're you're still in the He had a 90ft boat at his house. He just

He had a 90ft boat at his house. He just like let me [ __ ] almost die.

like let me [ __ ] almost die. At least you put the plug in." There was

At least you put the plug in." There was um there was a brand new a brand new

um there was a brand new a brand new yacht I saw like on social media. It was

yacht I saw like on social media. It was stunning. looked like it was probably

stunning. looked like it was probably like a hundred foot yacht, you know,

like a hundred foot yacht, you know, couple decks and then they put it in and

couple decks and then they put it in and it [ __ ] sinks. It I guess it's a

it [ __ ] sinks. It I guess it's a common thing where people forget to put

common thing where people forget to put the plug in on a new boat and it gets

the plug in on a new boat and it gets put in the water and it sinks to the

put in the water and it sinks to the bottom.

bottom. Did you see the way it fell? It was just

Did you see the way it fell? It was just like

like Oh, okay. So, you saw the video, too,

Oh, okay. So, you saw the video, too, right?

right? So sad. That's like a What do you think?

So sad. That's like a What do you think? 20

20 I would probably say like like 30 40

I would probably say like like 30 40 million.

million. Yeah. Maybe a little cheaper actually.

Yeah. Maybe a little cheaper actually. Maybe I was exaggerating. I think that

Maybe I was exaggerating. I think that Bill Gates just sold his yacht to a

Bill Gates just sold his yacht to a waste management guy. Stunning boat.

waste management guy. Stunning boat. Like this. This thing is

Like this. This thing is Yeah, that's different level.

Yeah, that's different level. That's different level. I think I think

That's different level. I think I think you're looking at like 300 million 400

you're looking at like 300 million 400 million for something like that. Maybe a

million for something like that. Maybe a little cheaper it being used, but that

little cheaper it being used, but that is just

is just 300 million.

300 million. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. The big boy ones like Bezos and Yeah.

The big boy ones like Bezos and Yeah. Yeah. Zuckerberg and all those guys just

Yeah. Zuckerberg and all those guys just hoarding money, [ __ ] building their

hoarding money, [ __ ] building their bunkers in Hawaii. Um, going back to

bunkers in Hawaii. Um, going back to Flower though, why are you laughing?

Flower though, why are you laughing? No, it's just I just didn't

No, it's just I just didn't I I actually my buddy sent me this list

I I actually my buddy sent me this list of

of of people with bunkers that are hoarding

of people with bunkers that are hoarding money.

money. Wait, is Flower signing a PTO to try out

Wait, is Flower signing a PTO to try out for the team or just a one-day contract

for the team or just a one-day contract to retire as a Penguin? going going back

to retire as a Penguin? going going back to that. It would be cool to see more

to that. It would be cool to see more guys do this like so he's going to play

guys do this like so he's going to play in an exhibition game for the Penguins.

in an exhibition game for the Penguins. So not only do you get to like sell out

So not only do you get to like sell out an exhibition game, no pressure, it's

an exhibition game, no pressure, it's for fun, it doesn't mean anything. And

for fun, it doesn't mean anything. And he gets to play his last game

he gets to play his last game technically as a Penguin like like

technically as a Penguin like like Henrik Lungquist for instance, he he can

Henrik Lungquist for instance, he he can play in these um alumni games and stuff

play in these um alumni games and stuff like that. I think he would be healthy

like that. I think he would be healthy enough to at least play in an exhibition

enough to at least play in an exhibition game or if not a period. It would be

game or if not a period. It would be cool to see him get to play another game

cool to see him get to play another game for the Rangers. So,

for the Rangers. So, retired.

retired. What's that?

What's that? Is he Is he like officially retired?

Is he Is he like officially retired? Wouldn't you have to

Wouldn't you have to Yeah, but I I

Yeah, but I I Are you saying just for fun?

Are you saying just for fun? Yeah. But well, basically what I'm

Yeah. But well, basically what I'm saying is like it probably like could

saying is like it probably like could technically happen, but given the

technically happen, but given the circumstance, I don't know if anything

circumstance, I don't know if anything like this in this idea has ever happened

like this in this idea has ever happened before. So I think that this is going to

before. So I think that this is going to like create like a new thing where um

like create like a new thing where um what's another example? Like

what's another example? Like I also think Flower has a type of

I also think Flower has a type of personality where he's like, "Oh yeah,

personality where he's like, "Oh yeah, I'll play an exhibition game." And you

I'll play an exhibition game." And you have to have that.

have to have that. He's going to have a shut out. You know,

He's going to have a shut out. You know, he will. How sick would it be to be a

he will. How sick would it be to be a kid who gets like his one exhibition

kid who gets like his one exhibition game

game like that? That that that game's going

like that? That that that game's going to pack. It's going to be unreal. Sid

to pack. It's going to be unreal. Sid will play. Maybe

will play. Maybe I might ask him if I could play so I can

I might ask him if I could play so I can retire. Maybe I retire.

retire. Maybe I retire. I was going to say maybe you're one of

I was going to say maybe you're one of those guys when when Arizona gets a team

those guys when when Arizona gets a team someday they bring you back. You play an

someday they bring you back. You play an exhibition game

exhibition game and and Yeah. And until then, what if

and and Yeah. And until then, what if they brought me, you, Army, and Merles

they brought me, you, Army, and Merles back just to play in that game? Just all

back just to play in that game? Just all the oldtimers. Let's get Andre Wah in

the oldtimers. Let's get Andre Wah in the mix so at least the locker room will

the mix so at least the locker room will be lit.

be lit. You guys should just show up to Flowers

You guys should just show up to Flowers game and be like, "Hey, we're all

game and be like, "Hey, we're all playing, right?" Like tying your ski.

playing, right?" Like tying your ski. Hey, how speaking of crowds, how about

Hey, how speaking of crowds, how about the crowds at the Montreal Canadian

the crowds at the Montreal Canadian rookie games?

rookie games? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Well, the demodov

Well, the demodov just he put on a show. I actually I I

just he put on a show. I actually I I was kind of surprised he was even in

was kind of surprised he was even in that.

that. I was too actually. Maybe he guys who

I was too actually. Maybe he guys who played decent amount of games are

played decent amount of games are playing in that still. Like I saw Renzel

playing in that still. Like I saw Renzel in Chicago made some sick play. Gave

in Chicago made some sick play. Gave gave somebody assists against St. Louis.

gave somebody assists against St. Louis. These are just clips I saw online. Um uh

These are just clips I saw online. Um uh who else? There was somebody else. But

who else? There was somebody else. But the Demodv one first. He's behind the

the Demodv one first. He's behind the net. He does like that's like the

net. He does like that's like the 12-year-old move. And then the goal he

12-year-old move. And then the goal he scored. Lane Hudson sitting there

scored. Lane Hudson sitting there watching kind of shaking his head. And

watching kind of shaking his head. And it looked like it was a playoff game.

it looked like it was a playoff game. That's how it sounded when the horn went

That's how it sounded when the horn went off after the goal.

off after the goal. Insane.

Insane. Kind of made me fired up for for camp.

Kind of made me fired up for for camp. Get going here. Um,

Get going here. Um, Pis, do you know who Ken Rosenthal is?

Pis, do you know who Ken Rosenthal is? Yeah, I saw that um in the outline and I

Yeah, I saw that um in the outline and I didn't know much about him until I saw

didn't know much about him until I saw the clip. Obviously, not the best look

the clip. Obviously, not the best look um in and a tough moment for him, but

um in and a tough moment for him, but yeah, like it he Yeah. Do you want to

yeah, like it he Yeah. Do you want to explain what happened? And let's hear

explain what happened? And let's hear your comments on it.

your comments on it. No, I I just I I've watched it a hundred

No, I I just I I've watched it a hundred times. It's like so funny how mad he is.

times. It's like so funny how mad he is. He's getting ready to interview somebody

He's getting ready to interview somebody on the Brewers who's he sees coming from

on the Brewers who's he sees coming from teammates coming from behind ready to

teammates coming from behind ready to just like pour water on him. So Ken goes

just like pour water on him. So Ken goes flying back. He's got this suit on, this

flying back. He's got this suit on, this bow ties, and he buries a cameraman.

bow ties, and he buries a cameraman. I got to think that almost every person

I got to think that almost every person that I know, if they bury a cameraman

that I know, if they bury a cameraman and turn around, the guy's laying down

and turn around, the guy's laying down with this poor camera

with this poor camera laying over his face, you'd be like,

laying over his face, you'd be like, "Oh, I'm so sorry." This Ken Rosenthal

"Oh, I'm so sorry." This Ken Rosenthal looked at this guy like he just dunked

looked at this guy like he just dunked on him with no time left to win the NBA

on him with no time left to win the NBA title. Like the biggest staredown, [ __ ]

title. Like the biggest staredown, [ __ ] you. Who the [ __ ] are you? The face. I

you. Who the [ __ ] are you? The face. I thought he was gonna give him the

thought he was gonna give him the Rodman.

Rodman. Can we

Can we just kick him?

just kick him? The face was actually like he in his

The face was actually like he in his head he might have been like I want a

head he might have been like I want a Rodman this guy and just a clip like

Rodman this guy and just a clip like such a good internet clip this guy and

such a good internet clip this guy and and he's he's getting smoked for this.

and he's he's getting smoked for this. Apparently he I I watched the video so

Apparently he I I watched the video so not apparently he came out and said he

not apparently he came out and said he apologized like profusely after and you

apologized like profusely after and you know whatever. It was just like kind of

know whatever. It was just like kind of tough timing and then the responses said

tough timing and then the responses said I believe he got the guy's name wrong

I believe he got the guy's name wrong who he was apologizing to. So

who he was apologizing to. So yeah. Yeah. Right away I saw that part.

yeah. Yeah. Right away I saw that part. I'm like oh god.

I'm like oh god. That's why you got to check the notes

That's why you got to check the notes like biz when you're thanking people.

like biz when you're thanking people. Yeah. If you have 14 [ __ ] internet

Yeah. If you have 14 [ __ ] internet tabs open to remember names.

tabs open to remember names. The video.

The video. Was he known as like a mean guy or like

Was he known as like a mean guy or like a not pleasant guy? I knew he was a

a not pleasant guy? I knew he was a baseball

baseball insider type, you know, and and then I

insider type, you know, and and then I just the responses to this like everyone

just the responses to this like everyone kind of

kind of that's Iverson over Terron Lou. Look at

that's Iverson over Terron Lou. Look at the guy's feet in the air. Look at the

the guy's feet in the air. Look at the guy's feet in the air.

guy's feet in the air. That picture the feet in the air is

That picture the feet in the air is unreal. And it's almost like a king is

unreal. And it's almost like a king is walking through the streets like Game of

walking through the streets like Game of Thrones and like

Thrones and like somebody like looked at him wrong. And

somebody like looked at him wrong. And you know who would have done that? Teddy

you know who would have done that? Teddy Roosevelt.

Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt. He would have [ __ ]

Teddy Roosevelt. He would have [ __ ] great gave He would have gave him the

great gave He would have gave him the shirt off his back.

shirt off his back. Hand out.

Hand out. You conduct the interview, sir.

You conduct the interview, sir. Talking about the United States. I love

Talking about the United States. I love I love hearing that.

I love hearing that. It's in your head. Our former president.

It's in your head. Our former president. I I I don't really have much else for

I I I don't really have much else for you guys. I don't know. Anything else on

you guys. I don't know. Anything else on your mind, BZ? The NFL this week. Did

your mind, BZ? The NFL this week. Did you see anything?

you see anything? The NFL has been phenomenal the first

The NFL has been phenomenal the first two weeks.

two weeks. Even the bad games are good. Like the

Even the bad games are good. Like the Patriots Miami game was like

Patriots Miami game was like entertaining at least like it was

entertaining at least like it was entertaining.

entertaining. Actually, I know what we'll do. I know

Actually, I know what we'll do. I know what we'll do. We'll throw it to Tyson

what we'll do. We'll throw it to Tyson Barry.

Barry. Ask you one question.

Ask you one question. Let's throw to Tyson Barry and we'll do

Let's throw to Tyson Barry and we'll do it at the end.

it at the end. Yeah, let's talk about some other stuff

Yeah, let's talk about some other stuff after when we get out.

after when we get out. Okay, perfect. Tyson Barry, guys, I'll

Okay, perfect. Tyson Barry, guys, I'll tell you, I think at the beginning of

tell you, I think at the beginning of the interview, he forgot he retired, you

the interview, he forgot he retired, you know, a little a little more on the

know, a little a little more on the serious side and then all of a sudden

serious side and then all of a sudden this interview got incredible. Biz Biz

this interview got incredible. Biz Biz had a masterclass of question asking. So

had a masterclass of question asking. So what do you got?

what do you got? Well, the he's so respectful of of all

Well, the he's so respectful of of all these superstars that he's played with.

these superstars that he's played with. He is such a likable guy. Like he's the

He is such a likable guy. Like he's the guy that like like you know Didle wants

guy that like like you know Didle wants him at his wedding. McDavid wants him at

him at his wedding. McDavid wants him at his wedding. Mner wants him around like

his wedding. Mner wants him around like like Matthews like he is just like he's

like Matthews like he is just like he's the facilitator where after the game

the facilitator where after the game he's probably the guy who got the

he's probably the guy who got the trainer to drop off some beers for the

trainer to drop off some beers for the boys. So, I think that he his concern is

boys. So, I think that he his concern is is not only does he want to make sure he

is not only does he want to make sure he respects the game, but also he doesn't

respects the game, but also he doesn't want to like sue his buddies by maybe

want to like sue his buddies by maybe telling a story that he shouldn't be

telling a story that he shouldn't be telling, but I think that quickly he

telling, but I think that quickly he will become a media darling um in the

will become a media darling um in the second part of his hockey career because

second part of his hockey career because I believe and I he he will be doing

I believe and I he he will be doing media this year. I don't want to spoil

media this year. I don't want to spoil it as far as who he's going to be doing

it as far as who he's going to be doing it for, but he's an unbelievable guy.

it for, but he's an unbelievable guy. Unbelievable to hang out with and and

Unbelievable to hang out with and and share beers with, and I'm really happy

share beers with, and I'm really happy that he towards the end of the

that he towards the end of the interview, we got him to open up. So,

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[Music] We are now joined by a special guest,

We are now joined by a special guest, been on the pod before. We got to give

been on the pod before. We got to give him a bunch of clicks here. Recently

him a bunch of clicks here. Recently retired water

retired water Tyson Barry. What's going on, buddy?

Tyson Barry. What's going on, buddy? Oh, thanks guys. Appreciate the clicks.

Oh, thanks guys. Appreciate the clicks. Uh, thanks for having me again. It's my

Uh, thanks for having me again. It's my third time. So, uh, appreciate you

third time. So, uh, appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedules,

taking time out of your busy schedules, Biz. I know you're the busiest guy in

Biz. I know you're the busiest guy in the world right now, so I appreciate it.

the world right now, so I appreciate it. A little bit more of an emotional

A little bit more of an emotional appearance on Spit and Chicklets. I got

appearance on Spit and Chicklets. I got a chance to talk to you talk to you last

a chance to talk to you talk to you last night. A few posts on Instagram as well,

night. A few posts on Instagram as well, just kind of thanking teammates and uh,

just kind of thanking teammates and uh, I mean, hell [ __ ] tell you, what a

I mean, hell [ __ ] tell you, what a run, man. Unbelievable career, man. And

run, man. Unbelievable career, man. And just how are you feeling? Like,

just how are you feeling? Like, obviously, it's probably been a few

obviously, it's probably been a few emotional weeks for you.

emotional weeks for you. Yeah. Uh yeah, it's been I didn't I kind

Yeah. Uh yeah, it's been I didn't I kind of came to the decision a while ago and

of came to the decision a while ago and then uh the NHL kind of uh dropped it on

then uh the NHL kind of uh dropped it on me. I didn't really know. Uh I was

me. I didn't really know. Uh I was definitely going to retire, but I woke

definitely going to retire, but I woke up to about 30 texts after I played in

up to about 30 texts after I played in ABS alumni game, which I guess is a dead

ABS alumni game, which I guess is a dead giveaway. Um yeah, the uh the NHL

giveaway. Um yeah, the uh the NHL Instagrammed it and I uh I had to pull

Instagrammed it and I uh I had to pull things together pretty quickly and um

things together pretty quickly and um but yeah, it was uh it was planned for a

but yeah, it was uh it was planned for a while. Um but a lot of emotions still

while. Um but a lot of emotions still and not like sad or anything. I've I've

and not like sad or anything. I've I've come to terms with it. Just uh you know

come to terms with it. Just uh you know grateful and you know I look back it's

grateful and you know I look back it's like kind of uh joyous emotions you know

like kind of uh joyous emotions you know like just what a uh what an experience.

like just what a uh what an experience. Um and then you know try to talk to my

Um and then you know try to talk to my parents got a little emotional trying to

parents got a little emotional trying to say thank you kind of for everything and

say thank you kind of for everything and um but yeah like I said not uh not sad

um but yeah like I said not uh not sad just super grateful and um you know kind

just super grateful and um you know kind of a celebration more so. And for you,

of a celebration more so. And for you, like you've been in an NHL locker room

like you've been in an NHL locker room your whole entire life. Like your dad

your whole entire life. Like your dad playing and he retired in what 01? You

playing and he retired in what 01? You were probably what, 10, 11 years old.

were probably what, 10, 11 years old. Like

Like Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly. You've been in an NHL locker room since

You've been in an NHL locker room since the time you can remember. And now you

the time you can remember. And now you won't be for the first time in what 36

won't be for the first time in what 36 years. Like it's got to be something

years. Like it's got to be something where you're like, what's next for me?

where you're like, what's next for me? But what you gave to the game,

But what you gave to the game, especially like you you were an

especially like you you were an undersized guy for when you came in and

undersized guy for when you came in and now you see more and more undersized

now you see more and more undersized Dmen playing the way that you played.

Dmen playing the way that you played. Like you got to be so proud of the

Like you got to be so proud of the impact that you left in the game like

impact that you left in the game like you know what you meant to the game cuz

you know what you meant to the game cuz you know not for guys like you that

you know not for guys like you that wouldn't be the you know the Kell Mars

wouldn't be the you know the Kell Mars or the Adam Foxes. So congratulations on

or the Adam Foxes. So congratulations on everything and just wanted to give you

everything and just wanted to give you that compliment but for you it's got to

that compliment but for you it's got to be tough to not be in that locker room.

be tough to not be in that locker room. Yeah. Uh, thank you, Yans, following in

Yeah. Uh, thank you, Yans, following in your footsteps, obviously. Um,

your footsteps, obviously. Um, yeah, I don't know. I think, like you

yeah, I don't know. I think, like you said, I've been in it a long time. And,

said, I've been in it a long time. And, um, the good news is is I'm good at

um, the good news is is I'm good at keeping in touch, and I've got a lot of

keeping in touch, and I've got a lot of friends who are still playing, so I've

friends who are still playing, so I've got a four-year-old son who's in skating

got a four-year-old son who's in skating lessons, and I'll be uh, I'm sure

lessons, and I'll be uh, I'm sure abusing some guys to come down in the

abusing some guys to come down in the locker room after games and kind of give

locker room after games and kind of give Leo, my son, the same experience I was

Leo, my son, the same experience I was given. And, um, yeah, I think

given. And, um, yeah, I think and it's so fresh, too, right? I think

and it's so fresh, too, right? I think once uh the season gets going and I'm

once uh the season gets going and I'm sitting here on the island and um you

sitting here on the island and um you know kind of looking around maybe I'll

know kind of looking around maybe I'll I'll start to miss it more. But at this

I'll start to miss it more. But at this point I'm uh you know excited kind of

point I'm uh you know excited kind of for the next chapter and whatever that

for the next chapter and whatever that is.

is. You quickly talked about the emotions on

You quickly talked about the emotions on the phone with your parents. Your father

the phone with your parents. Your father played pro for I probably at least 15 20

played pro for I probably at least 15 20 years and you were talking last night

years and you were talking last night when we when we met up for dinner just

when we when we met up for dinner just about the impact he had on your career.

about the impact he had on your career. How he essentially taught you

How he essentially taught you everything. He was your coach growing up

everything. He was your coach growing up and you know he was a great player

and you know he was a great player himself. So just like how much of an

himself. So just like how much of an impact did he have on you and and and

impact did he have on you and and and how emotional did that conversation get?

how emotional did that conversation get? Yeah. I mean if you know my dad, he's

Yeah. I mean if you know my dad, he's not one for emotions. So uh me and my

not one for emotions. So uh me and my mom were crying and my dad was sitting

mom were crying and my dad was sitting in the background making fun of me. Uh

in the background making fun of me. Uh but I I imagine he's he's due for a good

but I I imagine he's he's due for a good cry solo when no one's watching. Uh

cry solo when no one's watching. Uh yes,

yes, he has been an amazing uh mentor. um

he has been an amazing uh mentor. um coach he coached me all through minor

coach he coached me all through minor hockey. Uh even you know even when I

hockey. Uh even you know even when I moved on to junior he he was calling

moved on to junior he he was calling teams on the draft WHL draft tell him I

teams on the draft WHL draft tell him I wouldn't go there cuz he wanted me to

wouldn't go there cuz he wanted me to land at a good spot landed in Colona get

land at a good spot landed in Colona get to Colona comes watch me plays my first

to Colona comes watch me plays my first game I get absolutely piped I don't get

game I get absolutely piped I don't get out I don't play at all I remember

out I don't play at all I remember walking from Prosper there's a hotel

walking from Prosper there's a hotel across the street where we stay and he

across the street where we stay and he calls their GM Bruce Hamilton and he

calls their GM Bruce Hamilton and he goes and I'm terrified I'm like dad no

goes and I'm terrified I'm like dad no like don't do this he calls him he goes

like don't do this he calls him he goes hey Bruce uh this isn't what we signed

hey Bruce uh this isn't what we signed for if you're gonna play him like this,

for if you're gonna play him like this, he's gonna come play for me and

he's gonna come play for me and Victoria.

Victoria. I'm like 16. I'm like, "What the hell

I'm like 16. I'm like, "What the hell just happened?"

just happened?" Dad, no.

Dad, no. No, no, no, no. Don't do it. Don't do

No, no, no, no. Don't do it. Don't do it. Uh, sure enough, I was never played

it. Uh, sure enough, I was never played like that again. So, he always uh he

like that again. So, he always uh he always had my back. Uh, he's an

always had my back. Uh, he's an outrageous human being. Uh, Biz, you've

outrageous human being. Uh, Biz, you've spent some time with him.

spent some time with him. Oh, yeah. He's off the walls.

Oh, yeah. He's off the walls. Off the walls. Heart of gold. Very

Off the walls. Heart of gold. Very generous uh with his his energy and time

generous uh with his his energy and time and um also straight not afraid of

and um also straight not afraid of conflict. straight to violence. So, it's

conflict. straight to violence. So, it's an interesting combination. I'm very

an interesting combination. I'm very grateful for his guidance through this

grateful for his guidance through this whole thing.

whole thing. Uh Colona in practice next day. Were you

Uh Colona in practice next day. Were you PP1, PK1? Uh first guy on the board

PP1, PK1? Uh first guy on the board written down.

written down. He's coaching.

He's coaching. I don't know. I would they credit credit

I don't know. I would they credit credit to the coaches and the GM there. They

to the coaches and the GM there. They didn't uh they didn't punish me for

didn't uh they didn't punish me for that. Um I think it worked oddly enough.

that. Um I think it worked oddly enough. And um yeah, that was I that was an

And um yeah, that was I that was an interesting moment for me at 16 though.

interesting moment for me at 16 though. So, I definitely had my tail between my

So, I definitely had my tail between my legs going to the rink the next day.

legs going to the rink the next day. Yeah. You mentioned you had the cry with

Yeah. You mentioned you had the cry with your mom and especially with your dad

your mom and especially with your dad playing like she must have been the one

playing like she must have been the one shleing you to ranks left and right.

shleing you to ranks left and right. Like a lot of dads get a lot of credit

Like a lot of dads get a lot of credit for us making it but you know you look

for us making it but you know you look and a lot of the times it's the moms

and a lot of the times it's the moms driving you and you know reading a book

driving you and you know reading a book in the car or whatever and just being

in the car or whatever and just being supportive and helpful. I would imagine

supportive and helpful. I would imagine for you cuz your dad was out playing

for you cuz your dad was out playing most of your you know childhood.

most of your you know childhood. Yeah. Yeah. My mom's an angel. Um, all

Yeah. Yeah. My mom's an angel. Um, all of the stuff you just mentioned and such

of the stuff you just mentioned and such a sweet uh amazing person and mother. I

a sweet uh amazing person and mother. I got a lot from my dad with some of the

got a lot from my dad with some of the storytelling and and the the team uh

storytelling and and the the team uh teammate stuff, the camaraderie stuff,

teammate stuff, the camaraderie stuff, but um I like to think I'm a fairly

but um I like to think I'm a fairly sweet person. And I know that that comes

sweet person. And I know that that comes more so from my mom. And um forever

more so from my mom. And um forever grateful for everything she's done. So

grateful for everything she's done. So uh yeah,

uh yeah, dude. I I I was quickly looking over

dude. I I I was quickly looking over like your stats. Three seasons over 50

like your stats. Three seasons over 50 points, four others over 40 points, four

points, four others over 40 points, four others over 30 points. Like from the

others over 30 points. Like from the time you came into the league, like a

time you came into the league, like a truly elite puck moving defenseman. So I

truly elite puck moving defenseman. So I guess looking back on it, like was your

guess looking back on it, like was your goal always being undersized, be a power

goal always being undersized, be a power play, point producing guy? Like what did

play, point producing guy? Like what did you look at your NHL career being like?

you look at your NHL career being like? I'm guessing had to be exactly what you

I'm guessing had to be exactly what you kind of saw.

kind of saw. Yeah, I think that the only way I was

Yeah, I think that the only way I was ever going to have a chance is to kind

ever going to have a chance is to kind of be the guy that could produce. Uh

of be the guy that could produce. Uh I thought I was I thought I was very

I thought I was I thought I was very well well-rounded in junior and I could,

well well-rounded in junior and I could, you know, do it all. Uh quickly found

you know, do it all. Uh quickly found out that maybe wasn't the case and I was

out that maybe wasn't the case and I was maybe more of a one-dimensional guy. Uh

maybe more of a one-dimensional guy. Uh at least I was labeled as that. I I

at least I was labeled as that. I I don't think I was as bad defensively as

don't think I was as bad defensively as some people uh would tell me I was. But

some people uh would tell me I was. But um yeah, I think you know I was fairly

um yeah, I think you know I was fairly dynamic in junior and then I just tried

dynamic in junior and then I just tried to carry that into pro and um had some

to carry that into pro and um had some success in the minors and then uh

success in the minors and then uh struggled out of the gate in Colorado

struggled out of the gate in Colorado and um and then really just found it. Uh

and um and then really just found it. Uh my D coach yelled at me. It was I was I

my D coach yelled at me. It was I was I was I wasn't sure if I was ever going to

was I wasn't sure if I was ever going to play in the NHL. My D coach uh Prder, he

play in the NHL. My D coach uh Prder, he goes uh that was Savan Lefave. He goes,

goes uh that was Savan Lefave. He goes, "Sh, are you ever going to [ __ ] do

"Sh, are you ever going to [ __ ] do something?" And I was like, I'm like, "I

something?" And I was like, I'm like, "I don't know." I went out the next shift,

don't know." I went out the next shift, snapped the pass to Stas, like he went

snapped the pass to Stas, like he went down, scored, tied it up, OT, came

down, scored, tied it up, OT, came around the net, found me in the slot, OT

around the net, found me in the slot, OT winner. And then from there, it was kind

winner. And then from there, it was kind of like I had like I don't know 38

of like I had like I don't know 38 points in like 35 games or something.

points in like 35 games or something. And like I was like, "Oh, thank God.

And like I was like, "Oh, thank God. Thank God."

Thank God." My dad's gonna call you.

My dad's gonna call you. Yeah. I just needed a call out. I was

Yeah. I just needed a call out. I was like, "Oh, this could be bad."

like, "Oh, this could be bad." [ __ ] man. That was that was I mean,

[ __ ] man. That was that was I mean, that had to be fun in Colorado, dude.

that had to be fun in Colorado, dude. Like, your first full year as McKinnon's

Like, your first full year as McKinnon's rookie. I know you guys are very tight.

rookie. I know you guys are very tight. Like, to see what they've, you know,

Like, to see what they've, you know, ended up what he's become. And for a

ended up what he's become. And for a place to start in the league, I I I

place to start in the league, I I I would love to be a rookie in Colorado.

would love to be a rookie in Colorado. Great city, great fans. Like, that must

Great city, great fans. Like, that must be probably your fondest memories, I'm

be probably your fondest memories, I'm guessing.

guessing. Yeah, certainly. Certainly lots of them

Yeah, certainly. Certainly lots of them to go into Colorado. Uh, great

to go into Colorado. Uh, great organization and I was just, you know, I

organization and I was just, you know, I was 17 when I got to camp there and um,

was 17 when I got to camp there and um, you know, Paul Stazzney was there, David

you know, Paul Stazzney was there, David Jones, Ryan O'Burn, Shane O'Brien,

Jones, Ryan O'Burn, Shane O'Brien, couple wagons, they took me under their

couple wagons, they took me under their wing and, you know, they showed me a

wing and, you know, they showed me a good time, maybe too much of a good time

good time, maybe too much of a good time early on and, uh, when Nate got there,

early on and, uh, when Nate got there, we we still had a good time and then we

we we still had a good time and then we had to dial it in a little bit and we

had to dial it in a little bit and we started to turn a corner and become a

started to turn a corner and become a good hockey team and um, that was a lot

good hockey team and um, that was a lot of fun and uh, you know, Colorado is

of fun and uh, you know, Colorado is like a second home to me. So, uh, still

like a second home to me. So, uh, still really enjoy getting back there and like

really enjoy getting back there and like you said, some of my fondest memories

you said, some of my fondest memories and and getting to see them win a cup.

and and getting to see them win a cup. Um, without me, that's fine. I feel like

Um, without me, that's fine. I feel like I was a big piece of that. You know, I

I was a big piece of that. You know, I got him Nause in the trade who was a big

got him Nause in the trade who was a big piece of that cup. Um, yeah, it's it's

piece of that cup. Um, yeah, it's it's awesome to see kind of Nate and, uh, the

awesome to see kind of Nate and, uh, the way he's grown and developed and, um,

way he's grown and developed and, um, you know, he's turned into a hell of a

you know, he's turned into a hell of a guy and a hell of a player and um, yeah,

guy and a hell of a player and um, yeah, really proud of him. You kind of joked

really proud of him. You kind of joked around, but for like as soon as he got

around, but for like as soon as he got in there, things had to get turned

in there, things had to get turned around. Like he was that intense that

around. Like he was that intense that young where you guys are like, "Okay, we

young where you guys are like, "Okay, we got to pick our socks up here a little

got to pick our socks up here a little bit."

bit." Yeah. I I don't know if it was that. He

Yeah. I I don't know if it was that. He was definitely intense. He's never been

was definitely intense. He's never been afraid to, you know, you can see the way

afraid to, you know, you can see the way he plays. He's intense with the other

he plays. He's intense with the other team. He's intense with his own

team. He's intense with his own teammates. He'll he'll yell at his own

teammates. He'll he'll yell at his own coach. He's he's driving to win. So, uh

coach. He's he's driving to win. So, uh it wasn't an immediate, you know, nobody

it wasn't an immediate, you know, nobody just bowed down to him. There was some

just bowed down to him. There was some friction. Um but you know now he's he's

friction. Um but you know now he's he's turned himself into you know on any

turned himself into you know on any given night the best player in the world

given night the best player in the world and um guys follow him. So it's uh it's

and um guys follow him. So it's uh it's a hell of a piece to have on your team.

a hell of a piece to have on your team. Who were some of the the older guys when

Who were some of the the older guys when you know your first couple years cuz to

you know your first couple years cuz to make it in the NHL you have to have guys

make it in the NHL you have to have guys that help you out when you're young,

that help you out when you're young, show you the ropes. Uh like who were

show you the ropes. Uh like who were some of those guys that you would give

some of those guys that you would give that credit to?

that credit to? Yeah. Uh Paul Stazzy was awesome. Um

Yeah. Uh Paul Stazzy was awesome. Um Rhino

Rhino he's unreal.

he's unreal. Yeah, Staz is great. So, he was uh I

Yeah, Staz is great. So, he was uh I stayed at his place early in my career.

stayed at his place early in my career. He was awesome. Ryan O'Burn was another

He was awesome. Ryan O'Burn was another island guy. Uh he got traded there from

island guy. Uh he got traded there from Montreal when I got there and he planted

Montreal when I got there and he planted me next to him on the plane and you

me next to him on the plane and you know, I was always invited for dinners

know, I was always invited for dinners and beers and and the whole thing. So, I

and beers and and the whole thing. So, I kind of was able to see how guys

kind of was able to see how guys operated and um learn a lot early. Uh

operated and um learn a lot early. Uh so,

so, yeah. And then we had guys like Shane

yeah. And then we had guys like Shane O'Brien was just hilarious. He was my

O'Brien was just hilarious. He was my there a little bit. He but he had the

there a little bit. He but he had the room just giggling the whole time. Um

room just giggling the whole time. Um yeah, those are kind of some of the guys

yeah, those are kind of some of the guys that um you know I cut my teeth with

that um you know I cut my teeth with early on.

early on. I mean this could be a question for all

I mean this could be a question for all three of you like where do you gain that

three of you like where do you gain that like that confidence in that offensive

like that confidence in that offensive switch and even if you know you you you

switch and even if you know you you you throw a pizza here, throw a pizza there,

throw a pizza here, throw a pizza there, just kind of doesn't matter, you're

just kind of doesn't matter, you're going to keep trying to make those types

going to keep trying to make those types of plays. Like was that something that

of plays. Like was that something that was instilled in you in Colona? Was that

was instilled in you in Colona? Was that your father just being like, "Hey,

your father just being like, "Hey, [ __ ] erase it from your memory. Keep

[ __ ] erase it from your memory. Keep going." Like, where do you gain that

going." Like, where do you gain that that switch in your brain to to possess

that switch in your brain to to possess that offensive skill?

that offensive skill? Uh,

Uh, you know what? Maybe just I think a lot

you know what? Maybe just I think a lot of success in minor hockey and then

of success in minor hockey and then junior kind of builds you up to

junior kind of builds you up to and the hard work, right? Like, you

and the hard work, right? Like, you know, I was putting in the work when I

know, I was putting in the work when I was young and I I knew I was good and um

was young and I I knew I was good and um I knew I could make the plays I was

I knew I could make the plays I was trying to make. Sometimes I threw

trying to make. Sometimes I threw massive pizzas, but you know, credit to

massive pizzas, but you know, credit to the coaches, they'd throw me right back

the coaches, they'd throw me right back out there. They'd tap me like, "Hey,

out there. They'd tap me like, "Hey, good try." Or, um, sometimes it got away

good try." Or, um, sometimes it got away from me a little bit and they'd be like,

from me a little bit and they'd be like, "Hey, that's that's enough." Uh, I

"Hey, that's that's enough." Uh, I remember World Junior camp, I went in, I

remember World Junior camp, I went in, I won rookie or the defenseman of the

won rookie or the defenseman of the year, so I was like kind of like

year, so I was like kind of like supposed to make the team. I went in and

supposed to make the team. I went in and laid one of the biggest eggs you've ever

laid one of the biggest eggs you've ever seen at camp. I was throwing backhand

seen at camp. I was throwing backhand pizzas all over the place. It was out of

pizzas all over the place. It was out of control. Thank god I had such a good

control. Thank god I had such a good year going. They kind of just threw me

year going. They kind of just threw me on as the seventh Eman and then ended up

on as the seventh Eman and then ended up having a really good turnney. But um I

having a really good turnney. But um I guess kind of one of the I don't know. I

guess kind of one of the I don't know. I I went up backhand up the gut pizza. Two

I went up backhand up the gut pizza. Two shifts later I'm in the same spot. I'm

shifts later I'm in the same spot. I'm like [ __ ] it. I'm back.

like [ __ ] it. I'm back. You're a sick puppy.

You're a sick puppy. You are one sick puppy.

You are one sick puppy. Yeah. Um yeah, I think just believing

Yeah. Um yeah, I think just believing trusting that your training and your

trusting that your training and your skills are, you know, are where they

skills are, you know, are where they need to be to to take those risks. I

need to be to to take those risks. I even saw a couple of uh Instagram posts

even saw a couple of uh Instagram posts of some of the bad ones you gave. Uh one

of some of the bad ones you gave. Uh one was to Dry Cidle. You tagged him and I

was to Dry Cidle. You tagged him and I think he had to readjust and ended up

think he had to readjust and ended up buckling and falling back. So yeah,

buckling and falling back. So yeah, it's it's awesome to see all these posts

it's it's awesome to see all these posts uh to all these guys who meant so much

uh to all these guys who meant so much to you. And you know, it's it's not

to you. And you know, it's it's not ideal getting traded and I'm sure you

ideal getting traded and I'm sure you were devastated when you got traded from

were devastated when you got traded from Colorado, but you look even beyond the

Colorado, but you look even beyond the the relationships you had with the Ryan

the relationships you had with the Ryan O'Reilly, the Nate McKinnons where you

O'Reilly, the Nate McKinnons where you got to play with with Conor McDavid,

got to play with with Conor McDavid, Leon Didle, um and and so many other

Leon Didle, um and and so many other talented players. Mike Smith was another

talented players. Mike Smith was another guy that you became very very close

guy that you became very very close with. So, as much as it sucked, you must

with. So, as much as it sucked, you must be super grateful that hockey brought

be super grateful that hockey brought you all these amazing places and and

you all these amazing places and and created so many amazing friendships.

created so many amazing friendships. Oh, man. That's uh that's that's a great

Oh, man. That's uh that's that's a great point. Like when I look back, I would

point. Like when I look back, I would have loved to have stayed in Colorado

have loved to have stayed in Colorado and, you know, been the guy that was

and, you know, been the guy that was there. Obviously, not in the cards with

there. Obviously, not in the cards with Kale coming in and just kind of punting

Kale coming in and just kind of punting me. Um

me. Um but but yeah, like super grateful I got

but but yeah, like super grateful I got to go play in Toronto with uh Big Tony

to go play in Toronto with uh Big Tony and Mars and Mo and um Justin Hall and

and Mars and Mo and um Justin Hall and you know, these are these are friends

you know, these are these are friends for life for me. And then I get to, you

for life for me. And then I get to, you know, things go terribly there and I get

know, things go terribly there and I get to move on and I go join the Oilers and

to move on and I go join the Oilers and you know, again, lifelong friends with

you know, again, lifelong friends with uh I get to re rejoin Calvin Pickard and

uh I get to re rejoin Calvin Pickard and uh meet Leon and Cody Cece and Davo and

uh meet Leon and Cody Cece and Davo and um NG. Yeah, so many guys. Uh yeah, it's

um NG. Yeah, so many guys. Uh yeah, it's if I never got moved, you know, you

if I never got moved, you know, you don't meet all these guys and go to

don't meet all these guys and go to Nashville and get to play with Factor

Nashville and get to play with Factor again and Chenner and Ryan Mcdana and

again and Chenner and Ryan Mcdana and yeah, these are just it's it's cool to

yeah, these are just it's it's cool to be able to look back and I wouldn't have

be able to look back and I wouldn't have had those opportunities had I stayed in

had those opportunities had I stayed in one spot. So, um I'm a social guy. I

one spot. So, um I'm a social guy. I love making friends and um very very

love making friends and um very very grateful that I got shipped around a lot

grateful that I got shipped around a lot because uh got to meet a lot of really

because uh got to meet a lot of really cool people.

cool people. And you wouldn't be able to attend all

And you wouldn't be able to attend all these amazing weddings in the summer.

these amazing weddings in the summer. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. Did you go to Leon's?

Did you go to Leon's? DMZ

DMZ that looked I when that picture came out

that looked I when that picture came out with him with the cigarette, I was like,

with him with the cigarette, I was like, I got my background for my phone this

I got my background for my phone this season. Like this is perfect.

season. Like this is perfect. I would have loved to have been at that

I would have loved to have been at that wedding.

wedding. No, that was that was honestly such a

No, that was that was honestly such a great wedding. Uh the leadup to the

great wedding. Uh the leadup to the welcome party. We golfed a day and then

welcome party. We golfed a day and then the actual wedding was a heater. Like it

the actual wedding was a heater. Like it was so sick. Just we you know welcome

was so sick. Just we you know welcome them in after the ceremony. They come

them in after the ceremony. They come dancing in and then like they had this

dancing in and then like they had this crazy

crazy uh quartet I guess, but then also like

uh quartet I guess, but then also like all these talented singers. They brought

all these talented singers. They brought everybody onto the dance floor like

everybody onto the dance floor like before dinner. Everything. It was a full

before dinner. Everything. It was a full shaker on the dance floor like

shaker on the dance floor like intermittently throughout the night. It

intermittently throughout the night. It was uh it was so well done and so much

was uh it was so well done and so much fun and so many great people there. A

fun and so many great people there. A lot of just absolute donkeys were

lot of just absolute donkeys were [ __ ] putting on some shows. So it was

[ __ ] putting on some shows. So it was so good.

so good. Was it open bar?

It's a cash bar. They're announcing in German and English.

German and English. He [ __ ] gave you oil. There's a deal.

He [ __ ] gave you oil. There's a deal. It should be a [ __ ] cash bar.

It should be a [ __ ] cash bar. I sure did.

I sure did. Yeah. Cats paid for it.

Yeah. Cats paid for it. Yeah.

Yeah. Who gave the best man speech?

Who gave the best man speech? Uh that was one of his like childhood

Uh that was one of his like childhood buddies from Germany. Um seems like a

buddies from Germany. Um seems like a great cat. Uh

great cat. Uh yeah. Don't know, but he seems

yeah. Don't know, but he seems understand a word he said. It was in

understand a word he said. It was in German.

German. Like he loves pints. So good for me. All

Like he loves pints. So good for me. All of them do in Germany.

of them do in Germany. Oh,

Oh, speaking of pints, dude. So, if you see

speaking of pints, dude. So, if you see the jersey behind Biz and the the

the jersey behind Biz and the the beer that uh Bears is having, the beer

beer that uh Bears is having, the beer Chili Ones is all over the place now.

Chili Ones is all over the place now. So, I I need to hear about the start of

So, I I need to hear about the start of it, like what your plans are moving

it, like what your plans are moving forward. We had him at the Gretzky

forward. We had him at the Gretzky basement uh one of the outdoor games.

basement uh one of the outdoor games. Phenomenal. So, I'm wondering like where

Phenomenal. So, I'm wondering like where did this all begin?

did this all begin? I know where it began. It was order

I know where it began. It was order some. It's sold out.

some. It's sold out. Oh, yeah. Yeah, don't worry. We're

Oh, yeah. Yeah, don't worry. We're getting a refresh going on the website

getting a refresh going on the website there. But

there. But it was the only thing that would calm

it was the only thing that would calm down Nate after a game where he wasn't

down Nate after a game where he wasn't happy.

happy. Exactly.

Exactly. Right. That's how the whole thing began.

Right. That's how the whole thing began. We had to we had to bring him down a

We had to we had to bring him down a little bit. So, we just fire him a

little bit. So, we just fire him a chilly one. Calm the nerves a little

chilly one. Calm the nerves a little bit. Um Yeah. I just put it in my notes

bit. Um Yeah. I just put it in my notes like probably three years ago. Uh in

like probably three years ago. Uh in Colorado, we called beers chili ones. Uh

Colorado, we called beers chili ones. Uh Cody Mloud, which scream chili ones at

Cody Mloud, which scream chili ones at guys. Um got to Edmonton, it got like a

guys. Um got to Edmonton, it got like a life of its own. We were just like

life of its own. We were just like yelling like Cass and Smitty and Enzo.

yelling like Cass and Smitty and Enzo. We were just screaming like Chili Ones

We were just screaming like Chili Ones postgame, all this dumb [ __ ] So I wrote

postgame, all this dumb [ __ ] So I wrote it in my notes like I'd love to do a

it in my notes like I'd love to do a beer one day called Chili Ones. And then

beer one day called Chili Ones. And then about a year later, a guy in the

about a year later, a guy in the beverage industry reached out and was

beverage industry reached out and was like, "Hey, would you buddies want to do

like, "Hey, would you buddies want to do a beverage?" And I was like, "Yeah."

a beverage?" And I was like, "Yeah." Oddly enough, I told him about it. I

Oddly enough, I told him about it. I called Enzo Smitty Factor Shanner and I

called Enzo Smitty Factor Shanner and I was like, "Uh, am I nuts or should I do

was like, "Uh, am I nuts or should I do a beard called Chili Ones?" And they

a beard called Chili Ones?" And they were like immediately, "Fuck yeah. what

were like immediately, "Fuck yeah. what do you need? Uh so that's kind of how it

do you need? Uh so that's kind of how it started. We've got um I think like 18

started. We've got um I think like 18 active and former players uh in on it

active and former players uh in on it and some really cool people from

and some really cool people from the music world and just you know good

the music world and just you know good friends of mine. It's just uh started as

friends of mine. It's just uh started as something really fun but has turned into

something really fun but has turned into something that I love and is kind of a

something that I love and is kind of a viable business. So we're uh we're

viable business. So we're uh we're running with it.

running with it. How fun is Tyler Tyler Andis? Speaking

How fun is Tyler Tyler Andis? Speaking of weddings and Tyler Andis that guy

of weddings and Tyler Andis that guy should be at every single wedding.

should be at every single wedding. I never did. I just happened to be at a

I never did. I just happened to be at a wedding with him. I don't even know

wedding with him. I don't even know where the [ __ ] it was. Oh, it was Mark's

where the [ __ ] it was. Oh, it was Mark's wedding.

wedding. It was Mark Pissik's wedding, dude. He

It was Mark Pissik's wedding, dude. He was the funniest guy I've ever met.

was the funniest guy I've ever met. Like, what a guy. So, he's in on it with

Like, what a guy. So, he's in on it with you, too. Anyone else like uh that we

you, too. Anyone else like uh that we would know?

would know? Yeah. Yeah. There's a couple uh big dogs

Yeah. Yeah. There's a couple uh big dogs who are silent investors who we can't.

What do you mean? Fine. Bleep out the name and post, G.

name and post, G. One's going to be traded to Colorado.

One's going to be traded to Colorado. One plays in Colorado.

One plays in Colorado. Yeah.

Yeah. Here's a little clue for you people at

Here's a little clue for you people at home.

home. No, no, no. We uh but yeah, we've got uh

No, no, no. We uh but yeah, we've got uh a bunch of really great people. Nate

a bunch of really great people. Nate being one of them. Um Ryan O'Reilly,

being one of them. Um Ryan O'Reilly, Mike Smith, Ryan Mcdana, Phil Forsber,

Mike Smith, Ryan Mcdana, Phil Forsber, Tyler Myers, Jared Spurgeon. Um I mean

Tyler Myers, Jared Spurgeon. Um I mean there's there's I think there's 18, so I

there's there's I think there's 18, so I I'd be

I'd be You can make a hell of an alumni team

You can make a hell of an alumni team when everyone's done playing with that

when everyone's done playing with that squad.

squad. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we we'll talk. Um

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we we'll talk. Um yeah, just honestly and it for me it's

yeah, just honestly and it for me it's nice like I'm kind of obviously wrapping

nice like I'm kind of obviously wrapping up my career here and to have something

up my career here and to have something to focus on that um involves a bunch of

to focus on that um involves a bunch of my best friends and we get to do kind of

my best friends and we get to do kind of stupid [ __ ] and have fun with it is it's

stupid [ __ ] and have fun with it is it's kind of been a blessing for me. So um

kind of been a blessing for me. So um yeah, I love it. Um beer meetings are

yeah, I love it. Um beer meetings are the best. You start with a beer or you

the best. You start with a beer or you end with a beer and everyone's generally

end with a beer and everyone's generally happy. So it's like it's a completely

happy. So it's like it's a completely different program but um I I feel like I

different program but um I I feel like I was kind of built for it. Bes besides

was kind of built for it. Bes besides the besides the beer company, like what

the besides the beer company, like what what what do you think's next year? I

what what do you think's next year? I know it's, you know, all fresh and new,

know it's, you know, all fresh and new, but you know, for me it's like you got

but you know, for me it's like you got to be a part of the game at some like

to be a part of the game at some like some aspect.

some aspect. Yeah, I think I'm going to look into a

Yeah, I think I'm going to look into a couple different avenues and um B is Biz

couple different avenues and um B is Biz has been helping me a little bit,

has been helping me a little bit, walking me through some of his vast

walking me through some of his vast media knowledge.

media knowledge. He's starting a podcast with Nate and

He's starting a podcast with Nate and Sid.

Sid. We're [ __ ]

We're [ __ ] [ __ ]

[ __ ] We're [ __ ] boys.

We're [ __ ] boys. The avalanche, boys. No, no, just name

The avalanche, boys. No, no, just name the bench.

the bench. Can I work delivering chili ones,

Can I work delivering chili ones, buddy? We'll hire you any day. Um,

buddy? We'll hire you any day. Um, yeah, I'm going to dip my toe in maybe

yeah, I'm going to dip my toe in maybe to media and see how it goes and see if

to media and see how it goes and see if uh if I'm wellreceived and and I like

uh if I'm wellreceived and and I like it. U I don't know exactly where that'll

it. U I don't know exactly where that'll be, but um I'm I'm not really one to sit

be, but um I'm I'm not really one to sit still, so I'll be I'll be doing

still, so I'll be I'll be doing something.

something. Soon enough, you're going to be a crazy

Soon enough, you're going to be a crazy hockey dad. I mean, if Leo's What do you

hockey dad. I mean, if Leo's What do you say he is? Four.

say he is? Four. Four. Yeah.

Four. Yeah. So, yeah. You got like two years might

So, yeah. You got like two years might starts and then boom, you'll be calling

starts and then boom, you'll be calling it homes and

it homes and I got to put the pedal down here in the

I got to put the pedal down here in the next two years and get this uh this

next two years and get this uh this whole beard company wrapped up and

whole beard company wrapped up and Leo needs a little discipline in his

Leo needs a little discipline in his life though. He had a tough incident you

life though. He had a tough incident you said a couple days ago. Um

said a couple days ago. Um yeah, we don't need to air out we don't

yeah, we don't need to air out we don't need to air out. Okay, we won't talk

need to air out. Okay, we won't talk about Leo.

about Leo. Biz will air out anyone. He'll air out

Biz will air out anyone. He'll air out anyone

anyone this way. He's a [ __ ] disturber. He's a

this way. He's a [ __ ] disturber. He's a He's a [ __ ] disturb. We'll just put it

He's a [ __ ] disturb. We'll just put it that way.

that way. He's like his grandfather

He's like his grandfather chooses violence.

chooses violence. Islands.

Islands. Where will you spend the the winters?

Where will you spend the the winters? Uh, as of right now, we're on the

Uh, as of right now, we're on the island. Uh, me and my wife loved Denver.

island. Uh, me and my wife loved Denver. Um, we've chatted about maybe heading

Um, we've chatted about maybe heading back that way, but um see where, like

back that way, but um see where, like you guys mentioned, see where, you know,

you guys mentioned, see where, you know, post career takes me and, um, we're no

post career takes me and, um, we're no stranger to flipping cities. So, um,

stranger to flipping cities. So, um, we'll always have a spot here on the

we'll always have a spot here on the island. But, um, I don't know. Open to

island. But, um, I don't know. Open to anything. Hey, how unreal is the island

anything. Hey, how unreal is the island in Victoria? I tell these guys all the

in Victoria? I tell these guys all the time. I'm trying to drag them out here.

time. I'm trying to drag them out here. Be nice to bring them over to VGC. One

Be nice to bring them over to VGC. One of the biggest hidden gems in Canada.

of the biggest hidden gems in Canada. No.

No. Yeah. I I I mean, for me, Victoria's

Yeah. I I I mean, for me, Victoria's it's home. It's especially It's the only

it's home. It's especially It's the only place I've ever felt like home. So, um

place I've ever felt like home. So, um I'm biased, but you catch uh you catch a

I'm biased, but you catch uh you catch a July summer day here. It's I don't know.

July summer day here. It's I don't know. Hard to beat. We We run a pretty good

Hard to beat. We We run a pretty good program out here. We'll get you out on

program out here. We'll get you out on the boat, hit the links, whatever you

the boat, hit the links, whatever you need.

need. Is in winter time. Is it like dead? Like

Is in winter time. Is it like dead? Like like how many restaurants are in

like how many restaurants are in Victoria?

Victoria? Yeah. Well, they don't it's not like

Yeah. Well, they don't it's not like seasonal. They don't close. There's a

seasonal. They don't close. There's a lot of

lot of Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um No, everyone stays

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um No, everyone stays open year round. It's like the uh mild

open year round. It's like the uh mild most mild climate in Canada. It's kind

most mild climate in Canada. It's kind of the best we have to offer. Um gets a

of the best we have to offer. Um gets a little gray, a little rainy, but uh not

little gray, a little rainy, but uh not as much as Van or Seattle. So, kind of a

as much as Van or Seattle. So, kind of a sweet spot.

sweet spot. Yeah, it's awesome here. Like will you

Yeah, it's awesome here. Like will you will you be skiing and stuff like uh

will you be skiing and stuff like uh obviously not allowed to during the

obviously not allowed to during the season?

season? Yeah, I can't wait. I went snowboarding

Yeah, I can't wait. I went snowboarding at the end of this year with a good

at the end of this year with a good buddy of mine, Mark McMorris. He took me

buddy of mine, Mark McMorris. He took me up with all his uh professional

up with all his uh professional snowboarder buddies and I had a [ __ ]

snowboarder buddies and I had a [ __ ] blast. I love it up there. I'm going to

blast. I love it up there. I'm going to I'm going to get up there as much as I

I'm going to get up there as much as I can.

can. Do you do you guys go into like the

Do you do you guys go into like the chopper and the backcountry skiing? Are

chopper and the backcountry skiing? Are you that good?

you that good? No, I mean I can snowboard. It's been a

No, I mean I can snowboard. It's been a long time so I was just kind of getting

long time so I was just kind of getting my feet under me. Uh, but yeah, I would

my feet under me. Uh, but yeah, I would love to do that. I, you know, if if uh

love to do that. I, you know, if if uh if my skill set allows it.

if my skill set allows it. I don't know if you were like I I was

I don't know if you were like I I was like this where I I regret it, but when

like this where I I regret it, but when I was playing in the NHL, it's kind of

I was playing in the NHL, it's kind of like, oh, what not what's next, but

like, oh, what not what's next, but like, oh, we're playing them next week,

like, oh, we're playing them next week, this road trip, and I wasn't great at

this road trip, and I wasn't great at kind of like appreciating every day. And

kind of like appreciating every day. And it hit me right after retirement like,

it hit me right after retirement like, dude, that just felt like seven minutes.

dude, that just felt like seven minutes. Like, I wish I did. Have you have you

Like, I wish I did. Have you have you felt that at all since since officially

felt that at all since since officially announcing retirement like oh just went

announcing retirement like oh just went so quick like I or did you at the time

so quick like I or did you at the time appreciate what what was going on in

appreciate what what was going on in your life?

your life? I would say the last year I had in

I would say the last year I had in Calgary when I was getting health

Calgary when I was getting health ruthlessly health bomb I was able to

ruthlessly health bomb I was able to kind of see the writing on the wall that

kind of see the writing on the wall that it was coming to an end fairly quickly.

it was coming to an end fairly quickly. So I was trying to enjoy it as much as I

So I was trying to enjoy it as much as I could. all the dinners on the road. I

could. all the dinners on the road. I was hunting down all the my favorite

was hunting down all the my favorite spots and going for beers and, you know,

spots and going for beers and, you know, just doing everything I could, visiting

just doing everything I could, visiting all my friends on the road and um so I

all my friends on the road and um so I tried to tried to soak it in, but yeah,

tried to tried to soak it in, but yeah, it went quick still. Like I I think

it went quick still. Like I I think about,

about, you know, 10 years ago, a random Yeah,

you know, 10 years ago, a random Yeah, it's it's just like 14 years is quick. I

it's it's just like 14 years is quick. I remember trying to make the NHL still.

remember trying to make the NHL still. So, um yeah, man. I I don't know. I

So, um yeah, man. I I don't know. I think uh time slows for no one. So, it's

think uh time slows for no one. So, it's uh it's crazy.

uh it's crazy. We we touched on Leon's wedding. Uh

We we touched on Leon's wedding. Uh Nate's was uh this year. Were you the

Nate's was uh this year. Were you the best man at that one?

best man at that one? I I was the officient. So, I was uh

I I was the officient. So, I was uh yeah, I had the pleasure of of uh

yeah, I had the pleasure of of uh marrying them, which was a new a new uh

marrying them, which was a new a new uh tool in my tool belt. But, um

tool in my tool belt. But, um Were you nervous?

Were you nervous? It was fun.

It was fun. Like moderately nervous. I'd done a

Like moderately nervous. I'd done a couple MC's and some best mans, and

couple MC's and some best mans, and those those felt like bigger tasks. So,

those those felt like bigger tasks. So, this felt like kind of straightforward.

this felt like kind of straightforward. I I made a couple jokes and then, you

I I made a couple jokes and then, you know, kind of lance romanced it and got

know, kind of lance romanced it and got into the love and all that and um yeah,

into the love and all that and um yeah, it was it was it was fun actually.

it was it was it was fun actually. Um as far as uh um your relationships

Um as far as uh um your relationships with these guys, will you travel to go

with these guys, will you travel to go watch them play still? You think you'll

watch them play still? You think you'll still go wa watch a lot of hockey, go

still go wa watch a lot of hockey, go hang out with the boys?

hang out with the boys? Yeah, 100%. And like I have a son who's

Yeah, 100%. And like I have a son who's going to get into it, so I mean I

going to get into it, so I mean I imagine if if the guys are in Vancouver,

imagine if if the guys are in Vancouver, Seattle, um that'll be fun to take him

Seattle, um that'll be fun to take him over and, you know, bring him down after

over and, you know, bring him down after the game and that sort of thing. And uh

the game and that sort of thing. And uh there's a couple guys who are already,

there's a couple guys who are already, you know, sending sending schedules,

you know, sending sending schedules, circling dates when I can come and, you

circling dates when I can come and, you know, night before a game beer, that

know, night before a game beer, that sort of thing. So, it it's uh I'm

sort of thing. So, it it's uh I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. A couple

looking forward to it. Yeah. A couple chilies.

chilies. Me and Yans played with one of your your

Me and Yans played with one of your your good buddies, Mike Smith, and and how

good buddies, Mike Smith, and and how close you became with him. [ __ ] He is a

close you became with him. [ __ ] He is a character. It it makes your job a lot

character. It it makes your job a lot easier when you got a guy like that and

easier when you got a guy like that and the way he can play the puck, too.

the way he can play the puck, too. Right,

Right, buddy? I was

buddy? I was It was insane.

It was insane. You never get hit.

You never get hit. Nope. you just go back peel to the

Nope. you just go back peel to the corners and then he usually just puts it

corners and then he usually just puts it up the gut like it's uh playing with

up the gut like it's uh playing with Smitty was just all time. I love that

Smitty was just all time. I love that man. Um complete wagon in the best way.

man. Um complete wagon in the best way. Another guy the biggest heart. Super uh

Another guy the biggest heart. Super uh super sentimental and sweet and kind but

super sentimental and sweet and kind but also straight to violence.

also straight to violence. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. If you're looking for one, there's

If you're looking for one, there's nobody more willing than the Schmid dog.

nobody more willing than the Schmid dog. It's it's quite the combo.

It's it's quite the combo. I think I think he's arguably the most

I think I think he's arguably the most athletic goalie to ever play the sport

athletic goalie to ever play the sport to ever play like what he could like he

to ever play like what he could like he can hit a baseball out of a like throw a

can hit a baseball out of a like throw a football. He is an insane athlete.

football. He is an insane athlete. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like a built like a

Yeah. Yeah. And he's like a built like a Greek god. Just a absolute animal.

Greek god. Just a absolute animal. And his wife's an Olympic skier is so

And his wife's an Olympic skier is so his kids are going to be the biggest

his kids are going to be the biggest freaks ever.

freaks ever. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. They're well on their way.

They're well on their way. Dude, he is shredded wit. Yeah, cuz him

Dude, he is shredded wit. Yeah, cuz him and Bugsy were good buddies and they

and Bugsy were good buddies and they both ripped. Is he all tatted up, too?

both ripped. Is he all tatted up, too? No.

No. Yeah, he's got some tats, doesn't he?

Yeah, he's got some tats, doesn't he? No.

No. Bitty's got one of the worst tattoos

Bitty's got one of the worst tattoos you'll ever see. Uh, but not a ton of

you'll ever see. Uh, but not a ton of tats. No worse than one big brutal one.

tats. No worse than one big brutal one. He has a Halloween He has a Halloween

He has a Halloween He has a Halloween themed uh pumpkin on his

themed uh pumpkin on his forearm.

forearm. Is that what he You know, Biz is smart

Is that what he You know, Biz is smart though because he's got them all blended

though because he's got them all blended in. It's hard to really pick one out,

in. It's hard to really pick one out, you know?

you know? Yeah. They're so dark. They're so dark

Yeah. They're so dark. They're so dark and shitty. You can't really make them

and shitty. You can't really make them out.

out. Dang. It's it it's not ideal, but that's

Dang. It's it it's not ideal, but that's okay. I've seen worse.

okay. I've seen worse. Did Did you not mind though towards the

Did Did you not mind though towards the end that maybe you didn't have as much

end that maybe you didn't have as much responsibility, therefore you were able

responsibility, therefore you were able to be I don't want to say the jester,

to be I don't want to say the jester, but more of the guy organizing, guys

but more of the guy organizing, guys having fun and and and going out. I

having fun and and and going out. I mean, I'm sure I think you were the one

mean, I'm sure I think you were the one to organize uh uh McDavid's bachelor

to organize uh uh McDavid's bachelor party, weren't you?

party, weren't you? No, not his bachelor party. I would

No, not his bachelor party. I would certainly organize it. I organized a few

certainly organize it. I organized a few year-end trips and uh that's

year-end trips and uh that's Oh, that's what it was. Yeah, year end

Oh, that's what it was. Yeah, year end trip.

trip. Oh, I organized Nate's Bachelor Party.

Oh, I organized Nate's Bachelor Party. Yeah. I mean, but I've always done that

Yeah. I mean, but I've always done that even when I was younger and um maybe to

even when I was younger and um maybe to my own detriment. I don't know. Uh but

my own detriment. I don't know. Uh but I've always enjoyed that part of it and

I've always enjoyed that part of it and u keeping it light and having fun. I

u keeping it light and having fun. I think I probably learned that from uh

think I probably learned that from uh Obes early on. But uh yeah, I I was able

Obes early on. But uh yeah, I I was able to, you know, once I started getting

to, you know, once I started getting health bombed in Nashville, I was

health bombed in Nashville, I was playing with Factor again and we had

playing with Factor again and we had some fun and you know, I wasn't uh

some fun and you know, I wasn't uh wasn't a great position to be in, but um

wasn't a great position to be in, but um surrounded by great people, so made the

surrounded by great people, so made the uh you know, the 30 games straight a

uh you know, the 30 games straight a little better.

little better. I was just going to ask, how many in a

I was just going to ask, how many in a row were you scratched?

row were you scratched? Well, I mean, this year was just it was

Well, I mean, this year was just it was relentless. I don't know. I think it

relentless. I don't know. I think it went like three months without playing

went like three months without playing one. It was wild.

one. It was wild. Yeah.

Yeah. And I I I I'd get a game and then I' I

And I I I I'd get a game and then I' I honestly like maybe I'm [ __ ]

honestly like maybe I'm [ __ ] delusional, but I thought I played

delusional, but I thought I played pretty good and then like just right

pretty good and then like just right back in the rafters. But um it's all

back in the rafters. But um it's all good. I uh like I said, I'm not a I'm

good. I uh like I said, I'm not a I'm not bitter. I'm not sad. I'm I'm happy.

not bitter. I'm not sad. I'm I'm happy. And look back on like, you know, kind of

And look back on like, you know, kind of the last 14 years just with like super

the last 14 years just with like super grateful.

grateful. Did you ever find yourself in in some

Did you ever find yourself in in some predicaments by like maybe like going

predicaments by like maybe like going out the night before where you were late

out the night before where you were late to the rank? like any any fun stories

to the rank? like any any fun stories you're able to share that it's now all

you're able to share that it's now all over where uh

over where uh I think I have one alltime story and I'm

I think I have one alltime story and I'm still not sure I'm comfortable sharing

still not sure I'm comfortable sharing it but like

it but like a come on you're [ __ ] retired man

a come on you're [ __ ] retired man I'll tell it you let me reflect on it

I'll tell it you let me reflect on it and then we'll [ __ ] we'll air it or

and then we'll [ __ ] we'll air it or we won't

we won't we'll let you know if it's too

we'll let you know if it's too okay yeah

okay yeah so in Nashville I hadn't played the last

so in Nashville I hadn't played the last month and a half of the season like not

month and a half of the season like not a game I'm full health bomb full time

a game I'm full health bomb full time like me and Brunelloo Andrew Bernett we

like me and Brunelloo Andrew Bernett we call him Brunell we're like we went for

call him Brunell we're like we went for a pint. He's like, "Sorry, like I hate

a pint. He's like, "Sorry, like I hate to be like, you know, kind of doing

to be like, you know, kind of doing this, but like it is what it is." I'm

this, but like it is what it is." I'm like, "Yeah, like sure, no worries,

like, "Yeah, like sure, no worries, whatever." So, we go, we play Vancouver

whatever." So, we go, we play Vancouver in the playoffs.

in the playoffs. We roll in. I go for dinner with some

We roll in. I go for dinner with some friends, whatever. Uh,

friends, whatever. Uh, go back to Nashville for games three and

go back to Nashville for games three and four. Go back to Vancouver for game

four. Go back to Vancouver for game five. Still not even like don't play

five. Still not even like don't play nothing. We come in for games game five

nothing. We come in for games game five or game six, I can't remember. Must have

or game six, I can't remember. Must have been game five because it was it was

been game five because it was it was elimination game in van. Um

elimination game in van. Um same old like I go for dinner with the

same old like I go for dinner with the boys at Elisa and then we go I go meet

boys at Elisa and then we go I go meet some friends for a few beers after.

some friends for a few beers after. Nothing crazy. Wake up, go to the rink,

Nothing crazy. Wake up, go to the rink, bag skate,

bag skate, go for lunch. Like I'm not taking wies.

go for lunch. Like I'm not taking wies. Like that's how out of the lineup I am.

Like that's how out of the lineup I am. I'm not even like a thought for

I'm not even like a thought for you're a fan now.

you're a fan now. I'm Oh yeah. I'm just I've got my Fred's

I'm Oh yeah. I'm just I've got my Fred's jersey on and you know let's get her

jersey on and you know let's get her going fellas. like uh so I go for lunch.

going fellas. like uh so I go for lunch. I have a Chardonnay, a nice beef tartar

I have a Chardonnay, a nice beef tartar down at Provence in Yeltown. I have a

down at Provence in Yeltown. I have a pint. I've got a few friends. I go back

pint. I've got a few friends. I go back to the pack room. I have a a sauna. I

to the pack room. I have a a sauna. I have a lie down.

have a lie down. I get on this the late bus, the 6:00

I get on this the late bus, the 6:00 whatever scratch bus. I get to the rink.

whatever scratch bus. I get to the rink. Brandon Walker, our team service guy, is

Brandon Walker, our team service guy, is like, "Ty, come with me." I'm like,

like, "Ty, come with me." I'm like, "No." I'm like, "No, you're [ __ ]

"No." I'm like, "No, you're [ __ ] We walk in. Uh, all the boys are

We walk in. Uh, all the boys are half-dressed. Like the warm-ups is in

half-dressed. Like the warm-ups is in like four minutes. Luke Shen has got m

like four minutes. Luke Shen has got m like ridiculous food poisoning." I look

like ridiculous food poisoning." I look at him, I'm like, "Shenner," he's like,

at him, I'm like, "Shenner," he's like, I'm like, "Oh my god." I gear up like,

I'm like, "Oh my god." I gear up like, "No warmup, no nothing. I just put my

"No warmup, no nothing. I just put my gear on. I've had a Chardonnay and a

gear on. I've had a Chardonnay and a pint and a tartar pregame and a sauna.

pint and a tartar pregame and a sauna. It's elimination game. Vancouver Clutch.

It's elimination game. Vancouver Clutch. Oh my god. I go out for I I walk in

Oh my god. I go out for I I walk in factors there. He's like He goes to me.

factors there. He's like He goes to me. He goes, "You might be the only guy that

He goes, "You might be the only guy that could [ __ ] pull this one off." I'm

could [ __ ] pull this one off." I'm like, "Well,

like, "Well, so we will out for Wormies. I'm zipping

so we will out for Wormies. I'm zipping around. No Bucky. Like just trying to

around. No Bucky. Like just trying to feel it. Get something going." Sure

feel it. Get something going." Sure enough, they're like, "Yeah, you're

enough, they're like, "Yeah, you're going." I'm like, "Oh my god." Come out,

going." I'm like, "Oh my god." Come out, sit on the bench, like 20,000 white

sit on the bench, like 20,000 white towels going, everything. And I'm like,

towels going, everything. And I'm like, I looked Yos sitting next to me. I'm

I looked Yos sitting next to me. I'm like, "Yo, am I like am I tweaking or am

like, "Yo, am I like am I tweaking or am I like on the bench right now?" He's

I like on the bench right now?" He's like, "Oh, we're here." I'm like,

like, "Oh, we're here." I'm like, "Okay."

"Okay." Honestly, felt all right. I had an

Honestly, felt all right. I had an apple. We've got a big win.

apple. We've got a big win. [ __ ]

[ __ ] I had my guy. I had my guy. Wait, how

I had my guy. I had my guy. Wait, how many minutes did you play?

many minutes did you play? I think I played probably like 18. Like,

I think I played probably like 18. Like, you know.

you know. [ __ ]

[ __ ] Yeah, they had me out there like it was.

Yeah, they had me out there like it was. They gave me a normal shift. I was

They gave me a normal shift. I was running the power play like

running the power play like the gullet that you were zero chance in

the gullet that you were zero chance in your mind playing bus. Yeah, I grabbed

your mind playing bus. Yeah, I grabbed the six o'clock, right? We got to the

the six o'clock, right? We got to the rink at like 6:25. Wormies is what 6:30.

rink at like 6:25. Wormies is what 6:30. Yeah, like the like the PR guy isn't

Yeah, like the like the PR guy isn't even on that bus. He's already there.

even on that bus. He's already there. Probably better. It happened so late.

Probably better. It happened so late. You finding out so your your anxiety

You finding out so your your anxiety wasn't able to build

wasn't able to build I had like a second of anxiety. I texted

I had like a second of anxiety. I texted my wife. I was like, "Hey, I'm playing."

my wife. I was like, "Hey, I'm playing." And then that's all I had time for.

And then that's all I had time for. Like I the guy I was at lunch with, a

Like I the guy I was at lunch with, a good friend of mine, Dave Hamilton, all

good friend of mine, Dave Hamilton, all time. He was going to the game with some

time. He was going to the game with some buddies. I didn't even tell him. Don't.

buddies. I didn't even tell him. Don't. He's had he had beers with me at lunch.

He's had he had beers with me at lunch. Next thing you know, he's looking on the

Next thing you know, he's looking on the ice and I'm [ __ ] out there. He's

ice and I'm [ __ ] out there. He's like, "You got to be kidding me." It was

like, "You got to be kidding me." It was wild.

wild. If he was with a buddy you had just met

If he was with a buddy you had just met for lunch that was going to the game

for lunch that was going to the game with him, that guy would have been like,

with him, that guy would have been like, "What the

"What the What's this league about?"

What's this league about?" Yeah. I don't uh

Yeah. I don't uh I don't feel great about that one cuz I

I don't feel great about that one cuz I I love the game and I I really respect

I love the game and I I really respect Yeah, but that's different.

Yeah, but that's different. If I was taking Wormies, [ __ ] I was

If I was taking Wormies, [ __ ] I was right. I had played in a month and a

right. I had played in a month and a half when I was, you know, you're

half when I was, you know, you're you actually would have been panicking

you actually would have been panicking all day. I bet like not panicking but

all day. I bet like not panicking but like [ __ ] I'm in tonight.

like [ __ ] I'm in tonight. And you got bag skated like

And you got bag skated like not playing.

not playing. I will say though I was electric that

I will say though I was electric that morning. Like I scored some ridiculous

morning. Like I scored some ridiculous goals against the coaches. Like I even

goals against the coaches. Like I even yelled at a coach. I'm like, "Fuck, put

yelled at a coach. I'm like, "Fuck, put me in." And uh he sure enough I got

me in." And uh he sure enough I got what?

what? Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. You remember your old man with the

Yeah. You remember your old man with the Colona days? He's like, "You know what?

Colona days? He's like, "You know what? I'm just going to have [ __ ] call

I'm just going to have [ __ ] call trots up myself.

trots up myself. Did you play the next game?

Did you play the next game? Oh, no, no, no, no. But, uh, absolutely

Oh, no, no, no, no. But, uh, absolutely not.

not. And then you guys lost.

And then you guys lost. Yeah, but the coach did tell me.

Yeah, but the coach did tell me. Brunello said, "Uh, [ __ ] We were

Brunello said, "Uh, [ __ ] We were thinking about it."

thinking about it." Oh, that was nice.

Oh, that was nice. I hadn't been a thought in a while. So,

I hadn't been a thought in a while. So, I You know what? I planted a little

I You know what? I planted a little Tip told me that for five [ __ ] years

Tip told me that for five [ __ ] years and now we're thinking about it. Stay

and now we're thinking about it. Stay ready. [ __ ] Yeah. Get in the room and

ready. [ __ ] Yeah. Get in the room and play the music. Hey, I'll tell you

play the music. Hey, I'll tell you there's there's definitely fans of the

there's there's definitely fans of the Preds,

Preds, like fans of any team where if you win

like fans of any team where if you win an elimination game and a guy is an

an elimination game and a guy is an assist, when they saw the lineup,

assist, when they saw the lineup, they're probably like, "Why are you

they're probably like, "Why are you doesn't really matter if it's 6D? Why

doesn't really matter if it's 6D? Why are we switching a winning lineup here?"

are we switching a winning lineup here?" Our guy get him get him some Savon

Our guy get him get him some Savon Blanc, get him some Tuna Tatar,

Blanc, get him some Tuna Tatar, and throw him back out there.

and throw him back out there. Yeah, you know what? I couldn't agree

Yeah, you know what? I couldn't agree more. Doesn't matter that my assist was

more. Doesn't matter that my assist was a drop pass to Yos who took it end to

a drop pass to Yos who took it end to end. It was still

end. It was still remember

remember Oh, buddy. I set him up. I was I was

Oh, buddy. I set him up. I was I was drawing guys in and I sucked the back.

drawing guys in and I sucked the back. It was

It was next.

next. So, Leo, I split the D, sucked the guy

So, Leo, I split the D, sucked the guy over, went right between his legs of the

over, went right between his legs of the middle and and then we ping. That's

middle and and then we ping. That's Yeah, I was half biffed.

Yeah, I was half biffed. Yeah.

Yeah. And I And I bought some shoes at

And I And I bought some shoes at lunchtime. Went on a shopping spree.

lunchtime. Went on a shopping spree. I had my dog in I had my dog in town. I

I had my dog in I had my dog in town. I walked the seaw wall. It was Yeah.

walked the seaw wall. It was Yeah. Really nice afternoon. and we caught

Really nice afternoon. and we caught Vancouver on a beautiful day.

Vancouver on a beautiful day. I will say I do lead the league. There

I will say I do lead the league. There has to be I don't know who can pull this

has to be I don't know who can pull this up, but there's got to be I

up, but there's got to be I 100% lead the league and drop pass

100% lead the league and drop pass apples.

apples. There's no question.

There's no question. Oh, on the power play breakout.

Yeah, I got Davo Mac and Matthews and Mars.

Matthews and Mars. Nate and

Nate and Nate and Davo gave me a lot of drop pass

Nate and Davo gave me a lot of drop pass apples. That's 100% a dream.

apples. That's 100% a dream. We need a fan biz to go out that

We need a fan biz to go out that somebody will go through all of the

somebody will go through all of the assists you had and imagine the super

assists you had and imagine the super the super clip of like 47 drop pass

the super clip of like 47 drop pass apples.

apples. The drop pass on the power play is like

The drop pass on the power play is like within the last 20 years they weren't

within the last 20 years they weren't doing it. They everyone was just doing

doing it. They everyone was just doing the you know guy up the middle two guys

the you know guy up the middle two guys on each side with a stretch guy. So it's

on each side with a stretch guy. So it's like

like the last 20 years is when it started

the last 20 years is when it started popping off. I 100% you have

popping off. I 100% you have they didn't do it when I was first came

they didn't do it when I was first came into the league.

into the league. I think Wayne was one of the Did you say

I think Wayne was one of the Did you say he started with us and I couldn't even

he started with us and I couldn't even do the drop pass cuz it was like what is

do the drop pass cuz it was like what is it was like the alleyoop and semipro

it was like the alleyoop and semipro like

like yeah he was like just f leave the puck

yeah he was like just f leave the puck they will get it.

they will get it. Ty we'll take about 15 more of those

Ty we'll take about 15 more of those stories u in the rest of the pod. Um and

stories u in the rest of the pod. Um and you you've had to have gotten in some

you you've had to have gotten in some even more crazy antics

even more crazy antics for sure. Uh I don't want to make my

for sure. Uh I don't want to make my whole career about being hung tits for

whole career about being hung tits for games, but there was a couple

games, but there was a couple worked for me and Biz.

worked for me and Biz. Yeah, true.

Yeah, true. Uh

Uh no, there's been a couple good good runs

no, there's been a couple good good runs that that year. We were the worst team

that that year. We were the worst team in um

in um like since the Atlanta Thrashers came in

like since the Atlanta Thrashers came in the league when we were in Colorado. We

the league when we were in Colorado. We had a good crew there. We like like you

had a good crew there. We like like you know we were out of playoffs in like

know we were out of playoffs in like November. We were just awful. Um I I

November. We were just awful. Um I I just remember near the end of the year

just remember near the end of the year like we were we were having fun like

like we were we were having fun like going out whatever. Um, and Jared

going out whatever. Um, and Jared Bednar, who's a beauty, he called us

Bednar, who's a beauty, he called us into his office. It was me, Nate, and

into his office. It was me, Nate, and Calvin Pickard. We think we're in

Calvin Pickard. We think we're in trouble. Like, uh, and he sits us down.

trouble. Like, uh, and he sits us down. He goes, "Guys, listen. I get it. Win,

He goes, "Guys, listen. I get it. Win, lose, tie. You hit the rye." He's like,

lose, tie. You hit the rye." He's like, "I'm just saying, I'm not telling you

"I'm just saying, I'm not telling you not to." He's like, "I'm just saying

not to." He's like, "I'm just saying pick your spots." And we're like,

pick your spots." And we're like, "Okay." And we walked over like, "Did he

"Okay." And we walked over like, "Did he just give us a green light?" Like,

just give us a green light?" Like, that was a flashing green. I was like, I

that was a flashing green. I was like, I thought we were going to get in trouble.

thought we were going to get in trouble. Oh man, that was good. And uh we we took

Oh man, that was good. And uh we we took that to heart um for the last 10 games

that to heart um for the last 10 games of the year.

of the year. Favorite favorite city on the road to

Favorite favorite city on the road to have like a nice dinner night out with

have like a nice dinner night out with the boys.

the boys. Oh, that's so tough. I always I always

Oh, that's so tough. I always I always love coming into Vancouver. Um

love coming into Vancouver. Um same.

same. That's That's biased, but it is I mean

That's That's biased, but it is I mean you can get a nice dinner and cocktails.

you can get a nice dinner and cocktails. Top five for me. Top five.

Top five for me. Top five. Were you at the Western Beayshore there?

Were you at the Western Beayshore there? No. Oh, no. We

No. Oh, no. We No, they had an owner.

No, they had an owner. Oh, okay. Yeah,

Oh, okay. Yeah, we were at the Pacific Rim early on.

we were at the Pacific Rim early on. Oh, that's nice. That's tough.

Oh, that's nice. That's tough. Yeah, the pack rim is usually where we

Yeah, the pack rim is usually where we we'd land or the 4C's there for the

we'd land or the 4C's there for the first couple years.

first couple years. We stayed at so many uh Westons. I

We stayed at so many uh Westons. I bought a Weston bed for my house. That's

bought a Weston bed for my house. That's We were the Weston Coyotes. It was a

We were the Weston Coyotes. It was a nightmare.

nightmare. Yeah, that's not ideal.

Yeah, that's not ideal. I actually like the Weston Beayshore

I actually like the Weston Beayshore because the the meal room Florida you

because the the meal room Florida you put us in.

put us in. You're a bad hotel guy. You're a bad

You're a bad hotel guy. You're a bad hotel guy.

hotel guy. Yeah,

Yeah, we went on a road trip recently and that

we went on a road trip recently and that Yeah. No, that was like a [ __ ]

Yeah. No, that was like a [ __ ] He'll stay. Dude, you'll see a Motel 8.

He'll stay. Dude, you'll see a Motel 8. No, no offense, Motel. He'll be like,

No, no offense, Motel. He'll be like, "Dude, that place looks actually good.

"Dude, that place looks actually good. This is nice, huh?

This is nice, huh? Very low maintenance."

Very low maintenance." I kind of love that about you, [ __ ]

I kind of love that about you, [ __ ] You should see the back of his truck

You should see the back of his truck right now. He's driving around a [ __ ]

right now. He's driving around a [ __ ] Transformer around Victoria. It's the

Transformer around Victoria. It's the biggest truck I've ever seen. He's got a

biggest truck I've ever seen. He's got a close bar in the back. He won't even let

close bar in the back. He won't even let anyone sit in the back. He put our

anyone sit in the back. He put our friend in the in the bed of the truck

friend in the in the bed of the truck not to [ __ ] wrinkle his clothes.

not to [ __ ] wrinkle his clothes. Yeah,

Yeah, you guys are brutal.

you guys are brutal. He's had that He's had that clothes bar

He's had that He's had that clothes bar for [ __ ] 25 years.

for [ __ ] 25 years. Oh, yeah. I got a new one.

Oh, yeah. I got a new one. Custom

Custom one.

one. I got a a new custom one for my pickup

I got a a new custom one for my pickup truck. Yeah, I got

truck. Yeah, I got You used to have just a hockey stick. It

You used to have just a hockey stick. It was a hockey stick across.

was a hockey stick across. You were Yans came in one time. He was

You were Yans came in one time. He was doing chin-ups off of it. He's [ __ ]

doing chin-ups off of it. He's [ __ ] [ __ ] trying to take down my backseat

[ __ ] trying to take down my backseat clothes hanger.

clothes hanger. If you saw his car this winter, he got

If you saw his car this winter, he got the truck like his car this winter. I I

the truck like his car this winter. I I said, "Buddy, I don't know if this

said, "Buddy, I don't know if this podcast could continue." Dude, it was

podcast could continue." Dude, it was melted. The front the the top above the

melted. The front the the top above the steering wheel was like melted. Like it

steering wheel was like melted. Like it had been in the Scottsdale sun. It was

had been in the Scottsdale sun. It was change everywhere. I think I told I

change everywhere. I think I told I think I told Tyson I said I I drove it

think I told Tyson I said I I drove it to go get it fixed up at at Jeep

to go get it fixed up at at Jeep Chrysler and they're like ah it's going

Chrysler and they're like ah it's going to be like whatever 152 grand, 1,500 2

to be like whatever 152 grand, 1,500 2 grand to take before I took it back on

grand to take before I took it back on the road and I'm like man this thing's

the road and I'm like man this thing's at it its wits ends anyway. So I drove

at it its wits ends anyway. So I drove it over to Ford to see what they had and

it over to Ford to see what they had and it died in the parking lot.

it died in the parking lot. It's you I didn't know that

It's you I didn't know that you could I couldn't restart it. They

you could I couldn't restart it. They had to rejump the battery to bring it to

had to rejump the battery to bring it to the back to like assess what it was

the back to like assess what it was working.

working. He still Yeah. Still's business like I

He still Yeah. Still's business like I get 10 grand for this. They're like,

get 10 grand for this. They're like, "Buddy,

"Buddy, I'm going pay us to take it."

I'm going pay us to take it." There's $200 coins in there.

There's $200 coins in there. I'm pushing it up Frank Lloyd right off

I'm pushing it up Frank Lloyd right off or Frank Road to pull it in.

or Frank Road to pull it in. I got How much money did you bring for

I got How much money did you bring for it?

it? I think they gave me 10 grand. Like,

I think they gave me 10 grand. Like, [ __ ] But whatever. Hey, [ __ ]

[ __ ] But whatever. Hey, [ __ ] I thought that thing with the

I thought that thing with the I had the guy at gunpoint. I want

I had the guy at gunpoint. I want [ __ ] 10.

[ __ ] 10. I'll give you Chili Ones. I'll give you

I'll give you Chili Ones. I'll give you a chili ones jersey. I'll give you the

a chili ones jersey. I'll give you the non You ain't getting the alcohol ones.

non You ain't getting the alcohol ones. I'll get you the non-alc. Um but yeah,

I'll get you the non-alc. Um but yeah, no, enough about [ __ ] ripping my ass.

no, enough about [ __ ] ripping my ass. Who would who would be your sandbagger

Who would who would be your sandbagger partners? Cuz this guy, this is this is

partners? Cuz this guy, this is this is the exact person we need to get two now

the exact person we need to get two now cuz it's us three.

cuz it's us three. Me, Enzo, and uh Smitty uh would be a

Me, Enzo, and uh Smitty uh would be a fantastic uh that would be a lot of fun.

fantastic uh that would be a lot of fun. I don't think we'd make it 18 holes.

I don't think we'd make it 18 holes. We'd just be laughing and drinking our

We'd just be laughing and drinking our faces.

faces. I'll promise you this. I'll promise you

I'll promise you this. I'll promise you this. If you guys can line it up cuz we

this. If you guys can line it up cuz we have to do we have to do two of them.

have to do we have to do two of them. We'll do one with chili ones and I'll

We'll do one with chili ones and I'll drink for the first time when we do it.

drink for the first time when we do it. I haven't

I haven't And you'll be nasty at golf too for

And you'll be nasty at golf too for sure.

sure. I I just hit literally today the one

I I just hit literally today the one year it's been since I've had an

year it's been since I've had an alcoholic beverage. One year.

alcoholic beverage. One year. But keep in mind,

But keep in mind, if you bring the chili ones,

if you bring the chili ones, I'm probably going to call in a bag.

I'm probably going to call in a bag. And I'm What about Dallas or LA in the

And I'm What about Dallas or LA in the fall? Dude, this could be

fall? Dude, this could be Enzo be down. Hey, uh Enzo came to the

Enzo be down. Hey, uh Enzo came to the cup finals. Remember we interviewed him

cup finals. Remember we interviewed him the first loss for against the Panthers?

the first loss for against the Panthers? Oh, he was around all weekend cuz who

Oh, he was around all weekend cuz who was who's the kid he was with the

was who's the kid he was with the snowboard? Um

snowboard? Um Mark Morris.

Mark Morris. Yeah. Yeah, we had a blast. He is that

Yeah. Yeah, we had a blast. He is that kid is I'd love to get him in a

kid is I'd love to get him in a sandbagger. Yeah, we could put together

sandbagger. Yeah, we could put together we could do a little chili ones team

we could do a little chili ones team like we'll just host an event and will

like we'll just host an event and will you bring you guys bring your chicklets

you bring you guys bring your chicklets crew and

crew and come up with something

come up with something maybe cabb links and just get a bunch of

maybe cabb links and just get a bunch of the goons in there andor you were just

the goons in there andor you were just kind of saying it you could play one

kind of saying it you could play one with Didle McDavid. You could play one

with Didle McDavid. You could play one with Marner [ __ ] uh Matthews. You can

with Marner [ __ ] uh Matthews. You can do one O'Reilly uh um and and McKinnon.

do one O'Reilly uh um and and McKinnon. So you could have tons of options. We

So you could have tons of options. We could be doing this till we're blue in

could be doing this till we're blue in the face. We we could certainly do

the face. We we could certainly do something like that.

something like that. That would that would be a good time.

That would that would be a good time. That would uh going to Toronto. I know

That would uh going to Toronto. I know obviously McKinnon uh Edmonton's

obviously McKinnon uh Edmonton's obviously a different beast too with

obviously a different beast too with with McDavid and Dry Cidle, but that was

with McDavid and Dry Cidle, but that was that must have been a crazy experience

that must have been a crazy experience seeing what like Marner and Matthews

seeing what like Marner and Matthews have to go through in the big smoke and

have to go through in the big smoke and in the hockey mecca.

in the hockey mecca. Yeah, that was like you know my first

Yeah, that was like you know my first trade. So that's always hard, your first

trade. So that's always hard, your first one. And then uh

one. And then uh landing in a spot like Toronto, they had

landing in a spot like Toronto, they had the pressure on them and uh you know,

the pressure on them and uh you know, they had Babs there, so it was not the

they had Babs there, so it was not the greatest experience of my life for the

greatest experience of my life for the first couple, but uh

first couple, but uh yeah, it got it got better and then CO

yeah, it got it got better and then CO hit. It was kind of just a funky season

hit. It was kind of just a funky season like I you know, got cut after 70 games,

like I you know, got cut after 70 games, then we went into the bubble and it was

then we went into the bubble and it was a little bit bl um but I mean I love

a little bit bl um but I mean I love those guys. uh whole other added element

those guys. uh whole other added element to go play in Toronto. Um

to go play in Toronto. Um you know I I I love Mar so much was you

you know I I I love Mar so much was you know I think he's going to just do so

know I think he's going to just do so great in in Vegas and um you know he's

great in in Vegas and um you know he's going to it's going to be crazy for him

going to it's going to be crazy for him to you know play game 32 and come into

to you know play game 32 and come into the locker room and nobody's going to be

the locker room and nobody's going to be waiting to talk to him. I think that'll

waiting to talk to him. I think that'll be a uh that'll be something pretty

be a uh that'll be something pretty special for him to be able to just kind

special for him to be able to just kind of chill. I think he's going to have a

of chill. I think he's going to have a hell of a year. I think Vegas is going

hell of a year. I think Vegas is going to be tough to beat. Um yeah,

to be tough to beat. Um yeah, you said that you said they think you'll

you said that you said they think you'll think they'll win it last night.

think they'll win it last night. I think they could for sure. I think

I think they could for sure. I think Mars is Martn is unbelievable. That guy

Mars is Martn is unbelievable. That guy is uh he's such a player. He first PK,

is uh he's such a player. He first PK, first power play. He's just a buzzsaw.

first power play. He's just a buzzsaw. Um yeah, I think he's going to do really

Um yeah, I think he's going to do really well there. I I mean I don't know much

well there. I I mean I don't know much about much, but I'm rooting for him. So,

about much, but I'm rooting for him. So, like you're obviously a little biased,

like you're obviously a little biased, but when you hear like Biz or myself

but when you hear like Biz or myself like calling him out in the playoffs,

like calling him out in the playoffs, there's probably a little bit of like

there's probably a little bit of like these guys don't get how good he is.

these guys don't get how good he is. Uh, I don't know. I'm not going to lie.

Uh, I don't know. I'm not going to lie. I don't listen to you guys often, but uh

I don't listen to you guys often, but uh No, I know. But like you hear the noise

No, I know. But like you hear the noise where he was.

where he was. Yeah. No, I know he gets a lot of [ __ ]

Yeah. No, I know he gets a lot of [ __ ] Uh, and hey, listen, like that's why you

Uh, and hey, listen, like that's why you make money and that's why you're signed

make money and that's why you're signed to perform in the playoffs. And um, it

to perform in the playoffs. And um, it wasn't like he wasn't trying. But I

wasn't like he wasn't trying. But I don't know. I'm not going to pretend to

don't know. I'm not going to pretend to to know why the production or whatever

to know why the production or whatever wasn't there. I will say they did lose

wasn't there. I will say they did lose to a lot of good teams that, you know,

to a lot of good teams that, you know, went on to do some pretty good things.

went on to do some pretty good things. Um, but I think uh Barnes is poised to

Um, but I think uh Barnes is poised to he's probably going to have a [ __ ]

he's probably going to have a [ __ ] unbelievable playoff this year. That's

unbelievable playoff this year. That's all that's all I can say about that.

all that's all I can say about that. Well, he's getting a cup before Biz in

Well, he's getting a cup before Biz in the Leafs. That's I mean that's a fact.

the Leafs. That's I mean that's a fact. That is

That is that's a side bet that we could get

that's a side bet that we could get into.

into. You never know.

You never know. Yeah. Well, he's still rooting for his

Yeah. Well, he's still rooting for his boy AM34, too, right? Like, so you're

boy AM34, too, right? Like, so you're probably

probably I'm talking like like odds here. It's

I'm talking like like odds here. It's like you're looking Marner Cup or Leafs

like you're looking Marner Cup or Leafs Cup first. I think where he's at, it's

Cup first. I think where he's at, it's like minus

like minus Yeah, Vegas. I mean, Vegas is a

Yeah, Vegas. I mean, Vegas is a contender. And not saying the Leafs

contender. And not saying the Leafs aren't, but they're they're a contender.

aren't, but they're they're a contender. And then you add Mitch Mner, it's a good

And then you add Mitch Mner, it's a good day to be a Knights fan, as it has been

day to be a Knights fan, as it has been since they came in the league.

since they came in the league. I I got I got to ask Roback. Last

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ls on rhac.com. I know you're a humble guy, but in your

I know you're a humble guy, but in your mind right now, best goal you ever

mind right now, best goal you ever scored in the NHL?

scored in the NHL? Oh, biggest or best?

Oh, biggest or best? Both. Yeah, I'll take both.

Both. Yeah, I'll take both. I'd rather biggest actually, but both. I

I'd rather biggest actually, but both. I scored one with the Oilers in game six

scored one with the Oilers in game six to we were down 3-2 in the series. Um

to we were down 3-2 in the series. Um scored it late to put us up 3-2 with

scored it late to put us up 3-2 with like maybe two minutes left or something

like maybe two minutes left or something to go to game seven. That one felt good.

to go to game seven. That one felt good. And then nicest uh I scored a few nice

And then nicest uh I scored a few nice ones. I had like a early in my career I

ones. I had like a early in my career I was I had a couple nice ones early um

was I had a couple nice ones early um against I had like a twoon-one tow drag.

against I had like a twoon-one tow drag. Uh, there was one kind of like almost

Uh, there was one kind of like almost like falling backhand shelf. Um, I don't

like falling backhand shelf. Um, I don't know. You guys have to check the

know. You guys have to check the archives, but there was some nice

archives, but there was some nice That's what I wanted to do. I wanted to

That's what I wanted to do. I wanted to go look them up now.

go look them up now. Yeah, there's there's a couple highlight

Yeah, there's there's a couple highlight reels on there. Um, they kind of sputter

reels on there. Um, they kind of sputter out after like 2019, but early there was

out after like 2019, but early there was a few nice ones.

a few nice ones. Well, Leo will get to see these on

Well, Leo will get to see these on YouTube. I swear to God there's no HD of

YouTube. I swear to God there's no HD of any of my goals. Like all of them are in

any of my goals. Like all of them are in like standard definition blurry. So at

like standard definition blurry. So at least you have

least you have like you don't even like you're not that

like you don't even like you're not that old but like

old but like I I know but I don't network.

I I know but I don't network. Yeah.

Yeah. I was in the coast. That's [ __ ] You

I was in the coast. That's [ __ ] You should see the grainy footage of that

should see the grainy footage of that [ __ ]

[ __ ] Yeah, we won't.

Yeah, we won't. Yeah, I'm all good.

Yeah, I'm all good. Um

Um I have a life.

I have a life. Every time we get you on, we'll just

Every time we get you on, we'll just [ __ ] abuse me for [ __ ] 60 minutes,

[ __ ] abuse me for [ __ ] 60 minutes, you [ __ ] Um the the last thing I was

you [ __ ] Um the the last thing I was going to ask you is you're a huge music

going to ask you is you're a huge music guy. you love going to concerts and

guy. you love going to concerts and stuff like that. Did you kind of take

stuff like that. Did you kind of take the reigns on that in the locker room,

the reigns on that in the locker room, especially in the back half? Like when

especially in the back half? Like when you were playing in Nashville, did they

you were playing in Nashville, did they not have you in the locker room for even

not have you in the locker room for even just like

just like Oh, yeah. No, no, we had like I was TB

Oh, yeah. No, no, we had like I was TB tunes. I would just plug in and uh

tunes. I would just plug in and uh morning set the vibe. We honestly the

morning set the vibe. We honestly the guys in Nashville love Tenfe like

guys in Nashville love Tenfe like obsessed.

obsessed. Oh, don't tell these guys. Don't they

Oh, don't tell these guys. Don't they rip on me all the time about this? I rip

rip on me all the time about this? I rip on your like I don't necessarily rip on

on your like I don't necessarily rip on the band. I rip on your like investment

the band. I rip on your like investment in the band. Crack. It cracks me up.

in the band. Crack. It cracks me up. You're looking. Yeah. Sorry. We're

You're looking. Yeah. Sorry. We're investing in the arts. I mean, what do

investing in the arts. I mean, what do you listen to, Wet?

you listen to, Wet? Well, I I'll tell you right now. The guy

Well, I I'll tell you right now. The guy had money to invest into Tenfe and had a

had money to invest into Tenfe and had a [ __ ] 20-year-old Jeep Cherokee with

[ __ ] 20-year-old Jeep Cherokee with melted [ __ ] bubble gum and and weed

melted [ __ ] bubble gum and and weed everywhere.

everywhere. You're saying priorities.

You're saying priorities. Yes,

Yes, priorities. That is a priority.

priorities. That is a priority. supporting guys who I think are all in

supporting guys who I think are all in on their music career. Ty, these guys go

on their music career. Ty, these guys go hard in the paint, man.

hard in the paint, man. I respect their work ethic you've told

I respect their work ethic you've told me about.

me about. I even told them I said if I never see a

I even told them I said if I never see a dime back from that, I don't care. They

dime back from that, I don't care. They got [ __ ] great tunes.

got [ __ ] great tunes. That's definitely the right way to go

That's definitely the right way to go into it, Biz. But um I I

into it, Biz. But um I I sing one of their songs right now, Biz.

sing one of their songs right now, Biz. the guys loved Tenfei and then we'd have

the guys loved Tenfei and then we'd have just fantastic tunes uh before we went

just fantastic tunes uh before we went out and that was uh did turn into a big

out and that was uh did turn into a big part of my last half of my uh year in

part of my last half of my uh year in Nashville. I would just put a playlist

Nashville. I would just put a playlist together and the voice had to take it

together and the voice had to take it from there because I was showing up for

from there because I was showing up for puck drop. But um yeah,

puck drop. But um yeah, definitely I was always setting the

definitely I was always setting the vibe.

vibe. It's been a while.

It's been a while. People forget like the the morning mix

People forget like the the morning mix is just as important as the game mix.

is just as important as the game mix. Well, it kind of sets the tone for the

Well, it kind of sets the tone for the whole day. Yeah.

whole day. Yeah. You don't want to come in and just

You don't want to come in and just listen to dog [ __ ] tunes. No.

listen to dog [ __ ] tunes. No. No. Not while you're having your java

No. Not while you're having your java taping your stick. Like that's kind of

taping your stick. Like that's kind of like that sets you up for a nice

like that sets you up for a nice afternoon. Get your pregame like

afternoon. Get your pregame like a Chardonnay [ __ ]

a Chardonnay [ __ ] would uh So would you would you uh would

would uh So would you would you uh would you change it up from city to city where

you change it up from city to city where if let's say you were playing in Seattle

if let's say you were playing in Seattle for sure Pearl Pearl Jam on the pre

for sure Pearl Pearl Jam on the pre coming on prior.

coming on prior. Yeah. No, I mean you you have to have I

Yeah. No, I mean you you have to have I mean the mark of any good kind of DJ is

mean the mark of any good kind of DJ is you can't just repeat the same [ __ ] over

you can't just repeat the same [ __ ] over and over. Yeah. Oh,

and over. Yeah. Oh, and also

and also Jock Jims.

Jock Jims. Like I said, the mark of any good DJ.

Oh, you are such a [ __ ] ball buster. No, no, no. This has been great. I I

No, no, no. This has been great. I I don't know. I don't want to keep you

don't know. I don't want to keep you guys too long, but um

guys too long, but um is there anything else you want to say?

is there anything else you want to say? This is your retirement interview.

This is your retirement interview. Yeah, I just saw Whit ruthlessly plug

Yeah, I just saw Whit ruthlessly plug rollback. I would love to ruthlessly

rollback. I would love to ruthlessly plug Chile ones. Uh

plug Chile ones. Uh fantastic. Um, a big portion we're BC

fantastic. Um, a big portion we're BC Corp. A big portion of what we do uh is

Corp. A big portion of what we do uh is for charity and getting local kids into

for charity and getting local kids into sport. We've got a really great group of

sport. We've got a really great group of people behind it and uh yeah, it's a

people behind it and uh yeah, it's a really nice light drink. So, um, thanks

really nice light drink. So, um, thanks for letting me plug that. Thanks for

for letting me plug that. Thanks for having me. And always a pleasure, guys.

having me. And always a pleasure, guys. Give us one more

Give us one more last thing. Last thing.

last thing. Last thing. Yeah.

Yeah. Or what what like when will these be in

Or what what like when will these be in Massachusetts? Like, do you know any of

Massachusetts? Like, do you know any of that? Like where where can you get them

that? Like where where can you get them besides the website? Are there certain

besides the website? Are there certain states?

states? Yeah. So, we're going uh deep in Canada

Yeah. So, we're going uh deep in Canada here the next few months. Uh we have a

here the next few months. Uh we have a really cool program we're rolling out um

really cool program we're rolling out um with a uh a very talented athlete

with a uh a very talented athlete through the Olympics. Um

through the Olympics. Um that will be this year. And then early

that will be this year. And then early early next spring and uh summer we're

early next spring and uh summer we're planning to move into Denver. Um start

planning to move into Denver. Um start there and then we've got beer in the

there and then we've got beer in the tanks in the US. So we can certainly

tanks in the US. So we can certainly land some on your doorstep. But as far

land some on your doorstep. But as far as being able to walk out your door and

as being able to walk out your door and go to the local grocery store and grab

go to the local grocery store and grab some, you're probably about two years

some, you're probably about two years away from that. If

away from that. If which country

which country goes well,

goes well, which country will be he be representing

which country will be he be representing at the Olympics?

at the Olympics? Tough to say, but I am Canadian and I

Tough to say, but I am Canadian and I will be rooting for the Canadians. So,

will be rooting for the Canadians. So, you're a great about that first man

you're a great about that first man speech by the German.

speech by the German. Well, hey, I I

Well, hey, I I if the Germans are in the hunt, I I'll

if the Germans are in the hunt, I I'll honestly throw a German jersey on. That

honestly throw a German jersey on. That would be uh that would be fantastic. But

would be uh that would be fantastic. But okay,

okay, buy chili ones at every uh 10fe uh

buy chili ones at every uh 10fe uh concert as well.

concert as well. Oh yeah, we're going to ruthlessly plug

Oh yeah, we're going to ruthlessly plug chili ones at the 10fe shows.

chili ones at the 10fe shows. I'm going to fake get married and have

I'm going to fake get married and have them play at my wedding just so you guys

them play at my wedding just so you guys have to listen to them.

have to listen to them. No, your 41st. You should have them come

No, your 41st. You should have them come to your 41st.

to your 41st. Yeah,

Yeah, you pretty big 40th there. I saw took

you pretty big 40th there. I saw took the

the Yeah. So I had this friend

Yeah. So I had this friend like a orgy.

like a orgy. Oh my god, you're a [ __ ] like Ty. You

Oh my god, you're a [ __ ] like Ty. You love parties. You like you love coming.

love parties. You like you love coming. You You love going to Shakers.

You You love going to Shakers. Who doesn't like parties?

Who doesn't like parties? I So I was have I had a collab. What do

I So I was have I had a collab. What do you mean?

you mean? Yeah, you had a collab with uh who was

Yeah, you had a collab with uh who was it? Twisted

it? Twisted Jackie the Alien. Yeah. Yeah. Go back to

Jackie the Alien. Yeah. Yeah. Go back to your chirp. What are you saying? What

your chirp. What are you saying? What What did you say there?

What did you say there? No, you said you love parties and I said

No, you said you love parties and I said who doesn't love a party?

who doesn't love a party? But didn't you say something about an

But didn't you say something about an orgy?

orgy? That was my That was

That was my That was So listen,

So listen, I didn't see they had like technicolors

I didn't see they had like technicolors everywhere. I just ran with it. I was It

everywhere. I just ran with it. I was It looked amazing.

looked amazing. Like, sorry for the colors. You don't

Like, sorry for the colors. You don't get out much. Awe.

get out much. Awe. That's what I'm Thank you. The voice of

That's what I'm Thank you. The voice of [ __ ] reason over here. Thank you,

[ __ ] reason over here. Thank you, Tyson, for hopping on board here.

Tyson, for hopping on board here. I don't mind giving you heat, Biz, but

I don't mind giving you heat, Biz, but like this seems unwarranted. You had a

like this seems unwarranted. You had a birthday.

birthday. Sorry for the colors.

Sorry for the colors. I had a birthday, bro. They were acting

I had a birthday, bro. They were acting like it was a [ __ ] diddy orgy, like

like it was a [ __ ] diddy orgy, like there was oil everywhere because the the

there was oil everywhere because the the couple days before Posasha, our our

couple days before Posasha, our our videographer who's probably on here

videographer who's probably on here right now, he was looking for outfits to

right now, he was looking for outfits to wear and there was one that came up like

wear and there was one that came up like it was a a cheap suit and then there was

it was a a cheap suit and then there was like a a rainbow one like Technicolor.

like a a rainbow one like Technicolor. So, I'm like, "Ah, [ __ ] I don't give a

So, I'm like, "Ah, [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] Grab me that one. I'll dress like

[ __ ] Grab me that one. I'll dress like an [ __ ] with and then I'll throw a

an [ __ ] with and then I'll throw a cowboy hat for the disco rodeo theme

cowboy hat for the disco rodeo theme that we put on for my friend Jackie."

that we put on for my friend Jackie." like you kind of nailed it.

like you kind of nailed it. Presented by Tenfay. It was [ __ ]

Presented by Tenfay. It was [ __ ] money.

money. [ __ ] that party [ __ ] that party

[ __ ] that party [ __ ] that party that party looked incredible. But like

that party looked incredible. But like obviously after I was going to like bust

obviously after I was going to like bust your balls. It still to this day like

your balls. It still to this day like looks like an alltime shaker.

looks like an alltime shaker. Were you not? Why weren't you there?

Were you not? Why weren't you there? Bingo. Dude, I got [ __ ] bingo. Ty,

Bingo. Dude, I got [ __ ] bingo. Ty, buddy,

buddy, where were you?

where were you? You weren't at my 40th birthday party. I

You weren't at my 40th birthday party. I got three.

got three. It was the It was March. We were

It was the It was March. We were traveling for chicklets. We're home. I

traveling for chicklets. We're home. I could if that thing is in Scottsdale. If

could if that thing is in Scottsdale. If that's halfway in the country, I think I

that's halfway in the country, I think I could have made it.

could have made it. You know who's coming to my 40th? Enzo

You know who's coming to my 40th? Enzo and Smitty. That's how I know we're in

and Smitty. That's how I know we're in good shape for the sandbag.

good shape for the sandbag. There you go. There you go.

There you go. There you go. Just saying.

Just saying. You know what? You know what? Biz.

You know what? You know what? Biz. You guys divide yourselves.

You guys divide yourselves. He didn't Well, he can't do that during

He didn't Well, he can't do that during the sandbaggers. He can do it right now.

the sandbaggers. He can do it right now. He says he didn't have a [ __ ] ring, so

He says he didn't have a [ __ ] ring, so he wasn't coming.

he wasn't coming. That don't make sense.

That don't make sense. I said you could use mine. I got plenty

I said you could use mine. I got plenty here in my side drawer.

here in my side drawer. I feel like we're getting way off

I feel like we're getting way off on [ __ ] rings.

on [ __ ] rings. Use this wedding ring.

Use this wedding ring. Whatever sells, buddy.

Yes. Yes. Everybody's fair game. But it was an awesome party and uh yeah,

was an awesome party and uh yeah, Tenfeay wasn't there. It could have been

Tenfeay wasn't there. It could have been better

better as win holds up a pencil. Okay, so I was

as win holds up a pencil. Okay, so I was going to say Ty before we before we log

going to say Ty before we before we log off.

off. Yep. You have to give us one more story.

Yep. You have to give us one more story. Whether it's from Nate's bachelor party,

Whether it's from Nate's bachelor party, whether it's from either of the

whether it's from either of the weddings. Give us a or or from your

weddings. Give us a or or from your career. Give us one more. Like the

career. Give us one more. Like the Chardonnay.

Chardonnay. That's tough to be put on the spot. I

That's tough to be put on the spot. I like questions more than

like questions more than But you were coming on this podcast. How

But you were coming on this podcast. How do you not have a few [ __ ] teed up

do you not have a few [ __ ] teed up ready to go?

ready to go? He's never listened to this podcast. He

He's never listened to this podcast. He doesn't know what it's about.

doesn't know what it's about. I just I I don't have time for the pods.

I just I I don't have time for the pods. But

But you got to have an Enzo story.

you got to have an Enzo story. I do have an Enzo story from the trip.

I do have an Enzo story from the trip. Uh Enzo's not going to love this one,

Uh Enzo's not going to love this one, but Perfect.

but Perfect. Yes.

Yes. I mean, he was on fire. Leon's welcome

I mean, he was on fire. Leon's welcome party. Full program. Like he had the

party. Full program. Like he had the whole I mean, he was pretty much the

whole I mean, he was pretty much the show. He was

show. He was shirt on backwards.

shirt on backwards. Yeah. You know, he was doing a a top

Yeah. You know, he was doing a a top button untucked like full

button untucked like full the cholo.

the cholo. Yeah. Yeah. And he was he was delivering

Yeah. Yeah. And he was he was delivering like full He's excited. He's living over

like full He's excited. He's living over over in Europe, so he hadn't seen the

over in Europe, so he hadn't seen the boys in a while. Um and he's nailing it.

boys in a while. Um and he's nailing it. Nailing it. We get in the shuttle to

Nailing it. We get in the shuttle to leave. He's got to be thrilled with his

leave. He's got to be thrilled with his performance. His body's done though. He

performance. His body's done though. He shuts down in the shuttle. We're going

shuts down in the shuttle. We're going back to the hotel. Um I've got a room

back to the hotel. Um I've got a room with a a spare bedroom up on the second

with a a spare bedroom up on the second floor and Enzo's at a different hotel

floor and Enzo's at a different hotel cuz he booked late and is a complete

cuz he booked late and is a complete donkey. Um he's with his his new wife

donkey. Um he's with his his new wife who's a beautiful, amazing, very patient

who's a beautiful, amazing, very patient woman. Um he's he's now in the shuttle

woman. Um he's he's now in the shuttle and he's out. And I'm with uh it's me,

and he's out. And I'm with uh it's me, Zach Heyman, Victor Arverson, and the

Zach Heyman, Victor Arverson, and the girls.

girls. is still, you know, recovering from his

is still, you know, recovering from his injury. So, and Arvy's never met Enzo

injury. So, and Arvy's never met Enzo nor myself. And I'm like, Arvy, I need

nor myself. And I'm like, Arvy, I need you here. Like, I gota I'm going to pull

you here. Like, I gota I'm going to pull him up to my room because like we're not

him up to my room because like we're not he's not getting to his hotel. We're

he's not getting to his hotel. We're not, you know, sending him like this.

not, you know, sending him like this. So, me and RV

So, me and RV pull like carry him through the lobby of

pull like carry him through the lobby of the hotel.

the hotel. We get him up. I carry him up the

We get him up. I carry him up the stairs. So, he's not a big guy, you

stairs. So, he's not a big guy, you know, buck 50. Still still heavy though

know, buck 50. Still still heavy though for dead weight.

for dead weight. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. Yeah. And I honestly kind of knew this

Yeah. And I honestly kind of knew this was gonna happen. Like me and Emma were

was gonna happen. Like me and Emma were laughing. Like we of course we've got

laughing. Like we of course we've got Enzo. He goes his wife goes back to the

Enzo. He goes his wife goes back to the hotel. He's down. We lay down.

hotel. He's down. We lay down. Five minutes later we I start to hear

Five minutes later we I start to hear him stir. I'm like no. I'm like just

him stir. I'm like no. I'm like just stay down, man. Stay down.

stay down, man. Stay down. Full selling Buick's yard sale. Just

Full selling Buick's yard sale. Just puking everywhere. So I grab them. I put

puking everywhere. So I grab them. I put him onto the toilet.

him onto the toilet. The worst part, so he's all good. He

The worst part, so he's all good. He sleeps next to the toilet. Whatever.

sleeps next to the toilet. Whatever. We've all been there. Not a big deal.

We've all been there. Not a big deal. He's excited. Hasn't see his friends a

He's excited. Hasn't see his friends a while. Um, but the next day we have a

while. Um, but the next day we have a tea time at 10:30.

tea time at 10:30. He wakes up at 7. Demons, shadows. He's

He wakes up at 7. Demons, shadows. He's like, I got to get like I got to get

like, I got to get like I got to get back to the hotel, like whatever. No

back to the hotel, like whatever. No shows me. I have my 10:30 time.

shows me. I have my 10:30 time. Kind of like these guys at my birthday.

Kind of like these guys at my birthday. Exactly. So,

Exactly. So, wait, why why did he go to your hotel

wait, why why did he go to your hotel room if his wife was on that bus?

room if his wife was on that bus? Your wife's like, "Why'd we get to

Your wife's like, "Why'd we get to puke?"

puke?" Was his wife going to carry him?

Was his wife going to carry him? True. Good point.

True. Good point. Yeah. I needed RV, who'd never met the

Yeah. I needed RV, who'd never met the guy? We were dying laughing. He's like,

guy? We were dying laughing. He's like, "Who is this guy?" I'm like, "He's the

"Who is this guy?" I'm like, "He's the best."

best." He played in the show.

He played in the show. Yeah.

Yeah. Uh and then he low showed me for the tea

Uh and then he low showed me for the tea time, so I facetimed him. I said,

time, so I facetimed him. I said, "You're [ __ ] dead to me." And uh I

"You're [ __ ] dead to me." And uh I was going to go visit him in St. Trope

was going to go visit him in St. Trope after. I said, "I'm not coming. Um this

after. I said, "I'm not coming. Um this is just a horrible I I I put you to bed,

is just a horrible I I I put you to bed, cleaned up your puke, and this is how

cleaned up your puke, and this is how you treat me." Um, I ended up going

you treat me." Um, I ended up going 32. That's late.

32. That's late. Gonna say, "No way you are not going to

Gonna say, "No way you are not going to Sanrope because of a little puke."

Sanrope because of a little puke." Oh, no. I made it. We had a great time.

Oh, no. I made it. We had a great time. He redeemed. He bought me a nice lunch

He redeemed. He bought me a nice lunch at Bagotel. We had a really nice time.

at Bagotel. We had a really nice time. We flew the Canadian flag. It was great.

We flew the Canadian flag. It was great. That's a power move by Enzo moving to

That's a power move by Enzo moving to Sanrope to live. That is

Sanrope to live. That is I mean, he's he's one of the most

I mean, he's he's one of the most unique individuals in the entire planet.

unique individuals in the entire planet. I love that man to death. He's

I love that man to death. He's sophisticated, ridiculous, funniest

sophisticated, ridiculous, funniest teammate I've ever had. Um, what what a

teammate I've ever had. Um, what what a treat of a human being he is. Sorry.

treat of a human being he is. Sorry. Sorry, Enzo for telling everyone that

Sorry, Enzo for telling everyone that you puked at the wedding, but

you puked at the wedding, but No, not a big deal.

No, not a big deal. Puke and rally, baby. Or or in this

Puke and rally, baby. Or or in this case,

case, I wish he would have rallied. He kind of

I wish he would have rallied. He kind of left hanging. So, he had to golf with

left hanging. So, he had to golf with McMuffet for the the whole day, which

McMuffet for the the whole day, which was

was which was a nice time.

which was a nice time. When you say sophisticated, what is he

When you say sophisticated, what is he just well read? Like where like he reads

just well read? Like where like he reads a lot of books. Maybe he just thinks

a lot of books. Maybe he just thinks he's Maybe he just thinks he's well

he's Maybe he just thinks he's well read, but he'll just he gets his hands

read, but he'll just he gets his hands going and he starts talking like he's

going and he starts talking like he's got answers for he knows a bit about

got answers for he knows a bit about everything.

everything. If you talk like this, I'm [ __ ] eat

If you talk like this, I'm [ __ ] eat anything. Oh,

anything. Oh, tell me more.

tell me more. He's leaned back, his legs are crossed,

He's leaned back, his legs are crossed, and he's [ __ ] he's getting this one

and he's [ __ ] he's getting this one going and usually has a glass of, you

going and usually has a glass of, you know, like just very very refined

know, like just very very refined gentleman.

gentleman. That guy selling biz like this. Hey, the

That guy selling biz like this. Hey, the last time I saw a guy talk like that was

last time I saw a guy talk like that was Posasha in Montreal convincing this guy

Posasha in Montreal convincing this guy to buy meme coins and next thing you

to buy meme coins and next thing you know, uh, a wit lost 30 grand.

know, uh, a wit lost 30 grand. Yeah. So,

Yeah. So, could Yeah. And I could have made about

could Yeah. And I could have made about 80.

80. Enzo bought Enzo bought Bitcoin at the

Enzo bought Enzo bought Bitcoin at the height.

height. Well, he's still doing good. He's still

Well, he's still doing good. He's still doing good.

doing good. Well, he's getting he's getting booted

Well, he's getting he's getting booted from his apartment Sanrope right now.

from his apartment Sanrope right now. Oh, he's trying to pay in Bitcoin.

Oh, he's trying to pay in Bitcoin. Tax evasion.

Tax evasion. Hey, if if the big dogs you played with

Hey, if if the big dogs you played with say Matthews, McDavid, McKinnon,

say Matthews, McDavid, McKinnon, Garner, Rant.

Garner, Rant. No, no. All right. All right. But, but

No, no. All right. All right. But, but those three in particular, all in hole,

those three in particular, all in hole, T Green.

T Green. Who's winning?

Who's winning? Oh, Nate.

Oh, Nate. No [ __ ] He's

No [ __ ] He's Nate's great golfer. Yeah.

Nate's great golfer. Yeah. Oh, that crybaby. I [ __ ] lit him up

Oh, that crybaby. I [ __ ] lit him up on the front.

on the front. owns him.

owns him. I [ __ ] run that guy's show. You tell

I [ __ ] run that guy's show. You tell him I want him again.

him I want him again. Nate was the worst golfer I ever played.

Nate was the worst golfer I ever played. He wasn't fun to play with. He was

He wasn't fun to play with. He was awful. He'd hit a bad shot. I'd laugh

awful. He'd hit a bad shot. I'd laugh cuz like some of the shots he was

cuz like some of the shots he was hitting was ridiculous. He'd turn around

hitting was ridiculous. He'd turn around be like, "But are you [ __ ] kidding

be like, "But are you [ __ ] kidding me?" I was like, "Hey, settle down." And

me?" I was like, "Hey, settle down." And now he spent a summer, got lessons, and

now he spent a summer, got lessons, and he was down to like a scratch. And now

he was down to like a scratch. And now he's probably like a five cuz he's not

he's probably like a five cuz he's not playing a ton. But

playing a ton. But why you got traded to Toronto?

why you got traded to Toronto? What's that?

What's that? Now we know why you got traded to

Now we know why you got traded to Toronto. you laughing at him in the golf

Toronto. you laughing at him in the golf course.

course. No, you don't you don't laugh at Nate on

No, you don't you don't laugh at Nate on the course.

the course. No,

No, I think that that would uh I think that

I think that that would uh I think that would be an alltime bagger if you and

would be an alltime bagger if you and you Sid and Nate because we could we we

you Sid and Nate because we could we we played against those two guys already

played against those two guys already and embarrassed them. I don't know if

and embarrassed them. I don't know if they would ever show their faces on a

they would ever show their faces on a golf course, but if there was one

golf course, but if there was one if there's one guy who could convince

if there's one guy who could convince him, it would be you. So, good luck and

him, it would be you. So, good luck and uh tell Nate I run his [ __ ] show.

uh tell Nate I run his [ __ ] show. Yeah, I'll uh I'll mention it.

Yeah, I'll uh I'll mention it. Yeah. relay the message.

Yeah. relay the message. I will. You guys might be chatting soon

I will. You guys might be chatting soon here.

here. There's just no chance. Like they they

There's just no chance. Like they they don't handle loss as well. Like you

don't handle loss as well. Like you those guys are not not facing us again.

those guys are not not facing us again. Biz,

Biz, did you

did you did you hear Sid's dad was trying to

did you hear Sid's dad was trying to take credit at the fact that they should

take credit at the fact that they should own the name of the of our golf videos,

own the name of the of our golf videos, the Sandbaggers, cuz Nate said it. Sid's

the Sandbaggers, cuz Nate said it. Sid's Sid's old man's even mad at us, so

Sid's old man's even mad at us, so [ __ ] bring him when we go at it.

[ __ ] bring him when we go at it. Yeah, we'll get Troy in the mix. We

Yeah, we'll get Troy in the mix. We could get Lenny Barry, Troy, and Graham

could get Lenny Barry, Troy, and Graham McKinnon.

McKinnon. That would be a ridiculous That would be

That would be a ridiculous That would be content.

content. Old man like

Old man like he's the best. He's just a a good East

he's the best. He's just a a good East Coaster. You get a couple drinks with

Coaster. You get a couple drinks with him, he just starts to sound even more

him, he just starts to sound even more East Coast.

East Coast. Does this

Does this No, he does not do that.

No, he does not do that. Uh well, hey, this has been a great

Uh well, hey, this has been a great hour, buddy. And and on a serious note,

hour, buddy. And and on a serious note, I know we were [ __ ] around there for

I know we were [ __ ] around there for the last 20, 30 minutes, but an unreal

the last 20, 30 minutes, but an unreal career. Um an unreal guy. unreal

career. Um an unreal guy. unreal teammate and you could tell just by the

teammate and you could tell just by the response how well loved you were and uh

response how well loved you were and uh we wish you the best of luck on on the

we wish you the best of luck on on the second part of your journey buddy and uh

second part of your journey buddy and uh you'll probably have just as much much

you'll probably have just as much much success if not more on this end. So we

success if not more on this end. So we love you buddy and uh hell of a run.

love you buddy and uh hell of a run. Yeah. Appreciate that guys. Um you too.

Yeah. Appreciate that guys. Um you too. Uh great careers on the two guys on the

Uh great careers on the two guys on the top of the screen here.

top of the screen here. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh me and Whit must be on the top.

Oh me and Whit must be on the top. Yeah, you and Whit are on the top. Sir,

Yeah, you and Whit are on the top. Sir, I don't know what you guys are looking

I don't know what you guys are looking at, but you guys had wonderful careers.

at, but you guys had wonderful careers. Um,

Um, Biz,

Biz, well, you're definitely never getting a

well, you're definitely never getting a seat in my back seat again.

seat in my back seat again. He's throwing away that chilly one right

He's throwing away that chilly one right now. Right after this.

now. Right after this. Well,

Well, filling up his passenger seat with

filling up his passenger seat with clothes, too. Nobody could sit there

clothes, too. Nobody could sit there either.

either. Yeah, it's a crazy program. You should

Yeah, it's a crazy program. You should have seen him trying to get out of the

have seen him trying to get out of the parking lot last night.

parking lot last night. Oh my god.

Oh my god. No, the truck totally. There was a bunch

No, the truck totally. There was a bunch of people leaving the restaurant. So I

of people leaving the restaurant. So I turned into this driveway and it was the

turned into this driveway and it was the most narrow driveway surrounded by these

most narrow driveway surrounded by these trees and I was Austin Powers and these

trees and I was Austin Powers and these guys are just giving it to me the

guys are just giving it to me the [ __ ] entire

[ __ ] entire it took us six minutes to get out of the

it took us six minutes to get out of the parking lot. I was like why do you who

parking lot. I was like why do you who needs a truck this

needs a truck this you were three-point turn in it biz?

you were three-point turn in it biz? So so people try to shame me for my

So so people try to shame me for my truck size like a small bed whatever

truck size like a small bed whatever they want to [ __ ] say. I like to road

they want to [ __ ] say. I like to road trip. I want a big truck. I want to be

trip. I want a big truck. I want to be on top of the road.

on top of the road. What do you mean on top of every car?

What do you mean on top of every car? So, I don't care.

So, I don't care. You are the

You are the I know what you're saying about being up

I know what you're saying about being up high.

high. You got to be up high. Drive the

You got to be up high. Drive the best.

best. But there's like a reasonable limit of

But there's like a reasonable limit of how high you should be.

how high you should be. Is this Is this one of those like uh

Is this Is this one of those like uh monster trucks?

monster trucks? It's He's gravedigger.

He's got the monster energy. I got Gravedigger toy one like 20 feet

I got Gravedigger toy one like 20 feet from me over there.

from me over there. Oh. Oh,

Oh. Oh, that's truck.

that's truck. Yeah, it's brutal. I mean, it's

Yeah, it's brutal. I mean, it's room room. Is it loud?

room room. Is it loud? There's no reason there.

There's no reason there. It's a [ __ ] 250 diesel. It's a

It's a [ __ ] 250 diesel. It's a [ __ ] diesel truck.

[ __ ] diesel truck. [Music]

[Music] Hey, who are you kidding? I was like,

Hey, who are you kidding? I was like, what the

what the You used to ride in one every day. You

You used to ride in one every day. You used to ride in one every day with Derek

used to ride in one every day with Derek Morris on the way to the rink.

Morris on the way to the rink. Yeah. And I used to have to [ __ ] have

Yeah. And I used to have to [ __ ] have a trampoline next to it to jump up to

a trampoline next to it to jump up to get in. I hate it. I ripped so many

get in. I hate it. I ripped so many suits from that [ __ ] thing.

suits from that [ __ ] thing. No, I had the slide down uh steps.

No, I had the slide down uh steps. Yeah, he did too. And they came down

Yeah, he did too. And they came down like 15 feet.

like 15 feet. That's what they added in for the

That's what they added in for the Cherokee game. We'll give you the slide

Cherokee game. We'll give you the slide downs.

downs. That was nice of them.

That was nice of them. You have to remember I live in Arizona

You have to remember I live in Arizona where there's plenty of space to park

where there's plenty of space to park and it's just it's just a bigger area

and it's just it's just a bigger area where like we don't have buildings

where like we don't have buildings stacked upon buildings. And also Jackson

stacked upon buildings. And also Jackson Hole like that's going to be a

Hole like that's going to be a I'll give you this. It makes sense in

I'll give you this. It makes sense in Jackson Hole. That's the only place it

Jackson Hole. That's the only place it makes sense.

makes sense. A 250. Why not Arizona?

A 250. Why not Arizona? Insane. Unless you Unless you're hauling

Insane. Unless you Unless you're hauling horses and stuff, you do not need a 250.

horses and stuff, you do not need a 250. I'm I'm looking down the road. I'm

I'm I'm looking down the road. I'm looking I got vision down.

looking I got vision down. How long you going to keep this thing?

How long you going to keep this thing? A diesel engine will la last you 350 400

A diesel engine will la last you 350 400 miles, buddy. 400,000.

miles, buddy. 400,000. No way,

No way, bro. You don't You don't know what

bro. You don't You don't know what you're talking about. You talk with your

you're talking about. You talk with your hands. You don't know what you're

hands. You don't know what you're talking about.

talking about. 400,000 miles. or 400,000 miles.

400,000 miles. or 400,000 miles. If you get a Ford diesel engine, that's

If you get a Ford diesel engine, that's that'll [ __ ] last.

that'll [ __ ] last. You get You guys got to fact check that.

You get You guys got to fact check that. That seems like a lot of money.

That seems like a lot of money. Google it right now. They're called used

Google it right now. They're called used salesman for a reason.

salesman for a reason. What do you want me to search? How long

What do you want me to search? How long will a Ford F250

will a Ford F250 engine last?

engine last? Gravedigger.

Gravedigger. Gravedigger.

Gravedigger. Roughly 200,000 miles. It says

Roughly 200,000 miles. It says that's that longer.

that's that longer. That seems That seems a lot. Okay.

That seems That seems a lot. Okay. cuz they [ __ ] last forever.

cuz they [ __ ] last forever. This is

This is It's still half of what you said, but it

It's still half of what you said, but it is. It is a lot. We'll give you that,

is. It is a lot. We'll give you that, buddy. That's what the internet's

buddy. That's what the internet's telling you.

telling you. You might you might be thinking

You might you might be thinking kilometers and miles and kilometers.

kilometers and miles and kilometers. That's probably the same.

That's probably the same. I think that any any F-250 diesel owner

I think that any any F-250 diesel owner would say, "Yeah, I think this could go

would say, "Yeah, I think this could go to 250."

to 250." I never met another F250 diesel owner

I never met another F250 diesel owner and I don't live in Arkansas.

and I don't live in Arkansas. Biz, let me tell you something, Biz. Um,

Biz, let me tell you something, Biz. Um, this is on motorbiscuit.com,

this is on motorbiscuit.com, so I trust them.

so I trust them. Oh, yeah. I'm a freak.

Oh, yeah. I'm a freak. When properly cared for, it could last

When properly cared for, it could last 600,000 miles.

600,000 miles. Yeah, but he's not properly taking care

Yeah, but he's not properly taking care of it. He got his [ __ ] clothes

of it. He got his [ __ ] clothes wrapped in the back.

wrapped in the back. Motor biscuit, dude.

Motor biscuit, dude. I'm not afraid to eat crow. I trust

I'm not afraid to eat crow. I trust motor biscuit with my whole heart.

motor biscuit with my whole heart. I do, too. You're right.

I do, too. You're right. That's That's a super duty. That's what

That's That's a super duty. That's what That's what you have, right?

That's what you have, right? I actually have that magazine here. I'll

I actually have that magazine here. I'll go check. Yeah,

go check. Yeah, motorb

motorb I think that when I need some humbling,

I think that when I need some humbling, uh, we should get Tyson on and you guys

uh, we should get Tyson on and you guys could just do a roast every time. Maybe

could just do a roast every time. Maybe once a month,

once a month, I'd say a week.

I'd say a week. Do a chili ones roast where you guys

Do a chili ones roast where you guys keep me accountable for my vehicles and

keep me accountable for my vehicles and my other silly antics.

my other silly antics. Um, I don't think you ever got to even

Um, I don't think you ever got to even see me play, Tyson, because we only met

see me play, Tyson, because we only met each other in the NHL where I was doing

each other in the NHL where I was doing the same thing you were doing your last

the same thing you were doing your last year in Calgary.

year in Calgary. Yeah. Um, we definitely got on the ice

Yeah. Um, we definitely got on the ice against each other, but I wasn't uh

against each other, but I wasn't uh wasn't wasn't super concerned about

wasn't wasn't super concerned about Yeah. I knew you and Bordello were

Yeah. I knew you and Bordello were probably going to go and that was about

probably going to go and that was about all we'd see of you.

all we'd see of you. You Yeah, you paid as much attention to

You Yeah, you paid as much attention to my shifts as you as you do to this

my shifts as you as you do to this podcast. So, um, on that note,

podcast. So, um, on that note, hey, that picture you sent us though,

hey, that picture you sent us though, stick on stick with the old graphs this

stick on stick with the old graphs this week was nice on O.

week was nice on O. Did you see that? Did you see that?

Did you see that? Did you see that? Pull that up.

Pull that up. Yeah. Show Show them.

Yeah. Show Show them. Didn't come across my ticker.

Didn't come across my ticker. How would he have seen it? You sent it

How would he have seen it? You sent it to our group chat.

to our group chat. Well, I thought maybe he was checking

Well, I thought maybe he was checking out online for

out online for I thought I was looking for all over the

I thought I was looking for all over the algorithm trending biz.

algorithm trending biz. How am I going to teach Leo how to play

How am I going to teach Leo how to play defense? Cuz I didn't. Uh what's the

defense? Cuz I didn't. Uh what's the name of that website?

name of that website? Motorbiscuit.biz.

This is Oh, there it is right there. He was about to rip one shelf.

He was about to rip one shelf. That is going He is loaded. That is

That is going He is loaded. That is going titty 100%. If it wasn't for me,

going titty 100%. If it wasn't for me, we lose that preseason game.

we lose that preseason game. If it wasn't for you, they wouldn't have

If it wasn't for you, they wouldn't have got Sid.

got Sid. That's You could thank Merles and Whit

That's You could thank Merles and Whit for that, too. You [ __ ] [ __ ] Um,

for that, too. You [ __ ] [ __ ] Um, well, since we're since we're sticking

well, since we're since we're sticking around, I mean, [ __ ] Got any McDavid

around, I mean, [ __ ] Got any McDavid stories you want to share? He's puking

stories you want to share? He's puking anywhere on the bathroom party.

anywhere on the bathroom party. Great. No, Dave's uh he's never done

Great. No, Dave's uh he's never done anything wrong. He's the best.

anything wrong. He's the best. And and his wife designed your place,

And and his wife designed your place, too.

too. Yes, she did. And she did a wonderful

Yes, she did. And she did a wonderful job. Uh little bit over budget, but you

job. Uh little bit over budget, but you know what? That's uh it seems to come

know what? That's uh it seems to come with the territory and um it turned out

with the territory and um it turned out great. So no complaints. Um love Davo.

great. So no complaints. Um love Davo. He's got a sneaky great sense of humor.

He's got a sneaky great sense of humor. Loves to have a great time when it's

Loves to have a great time when it's appropriate and uh I hope he gets one

appropriate and uh I hope he gets one here soon cuz [ __ ] is

here soon cuz [ __ ] is You think he resigns?

You think he resigns? Well, he'll get one.

Well, he'll get one. I think he'll get a couple more years

I think he'll get a couple more years there. And can't leave Leon out to dry

there. And can't leave Leon out to dry like that. He'll do a couple more years,

like that. He'll do a couple more years, I hope. And they'll hoist one there. Too

I hope. And they'll hoist one there. Too good not to. You thought you were

good not to. You thought you were getting a deal when he was getting those

getting a deal when he was getting those PJs uh for the rookie parties or

PJs uh for the rookie parties or whatever the the post game post game

whatever the the post game post game parties.

parties. He was great. He's not afraid to pick up

He was great. He's not afraid to pick up with Tab either, which he looks after

with Tab either, which he looks after the lads. Um

the lads. Um Yeah. Yeah. No, he's uh he's fantastic.

Yeah. Yeah. No, he's uh he's fantastic. Does he have a 250?

Does he have a 250? Yeah, he's I don't know. We're not going

Yeah, he's I don't know. We're not going to talk about his hot tub again. And

to talk about his hot tub again. And we'll

we'll They're going to Oh, I know. He was

They're going to Oh, I know. He was You could You could put his hot tub in

You could You could put his hot tub in the back of your truck. You should get

the back of your truck. You should get one. Biz,

one. Biz, you're going to be driving by this

you're going to be driving by this afternoon. Ty, I'm going to have a first

afternoon. Ty, I'm going to have a first sale sign in my window.

sale sign in my window. That might sit a while.

That might sit a while. He's doing his laundry in the hot tub in

He's doing his laundry in the hot tub in the bed. The the bed of the truck.

the bed. The the bed of the truck. Hey, isn't it nice talking to me on the

Hey, isn't it nice talking to me on the pod though, Ty? Because you have way

pod though, Ty? Because you have way more of my attention. More than about 8%

more of my attention. More than about 8% of it.

of it. It is nice. It actually is really nice.

It is nice. It actually is really nice. between your phone and the [ __ ]

between your phone and the [ __ ] barbecue guy. I couldn't I didn't know

barbecue guy. I couldn't I didn't know if you were listening. Uh you guys

if you were listening. Uh you guys should see where he's got So he rented a

should see where he's got So he rented a beautiful home like two doors down from

beautiful home like two doors down from me like on uh it's called uh Beach

me like on uh it's called uh Beach Drive. It's a nice boulevard like

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Thank you so much. Congrats once again, Tyson Barry. What a what a guy. Um, Biz,

Tyson Barry. What a what a guy. Um, Biz, before we get into some topics that you

before we get into some topics that you might have had, we did forget to bring

might have had, we did forget to bring up the Hughes brothers. So, you give us

up the Hughes brothers. So, you give us your basically your uh your idea or your

your basically your uh your idea or your thought on where they'll be, if they'll

thought on where they'll be, if they'll ever play together. Um,

ever play together. Um, I have heard rumblings

I have heard rumblings that someone in the family

that someone in the family wants them to be Rangers.

wants them to be Rangers. Oo, New York Rangers. I depending on how

Oo, New York Rangers. I depending on how the next year goes, maybe you could give

the next year goes, maybe you could give it two years, I would assume that they

it two years, I would assume that they just all end up and stay in in New

just all end up and stay in in New Jersey. I think it's just going to be I

Jersey. I think it's just going to be I I think it's it's inevitable because

I think it's it's inevitable because like Luke's going to be offered this

like Luke's going to be offered this like monstrous entry level or deal out

like monstrous entry level or deal out of entry level.

of entry level. Well, when's he going to sign?

Well, when's he going to sign? Jack's got what probably like four to

Jack's got what probably like four to five years left on that eight-year deal.

five years left on that eight-year deal. Yeah. Check it.

Yeah. Check it. And then

And then my assumption is is the Conucks are

my assumption is is the Conucks are going to be like, "Listen, what do you

going to be like, "Listen, what do you want to do?" And they have to want to

want to do?" And they have to want to get a boatload in return because you

get a boatload in return because you can't lose them for nothing. And if it

can't lose them for nothing. And if it were to happen, let's say in the second

were to happen, let's say in the second part of this season, if things aren't

part of this season, if things aren't going well for Vancouver, you get so

going well for Vancouver, you get so much more for him because he still has

much more for him because he still has next year on the deal. So to like get

next year on the deal. So to like get Twin Hughes at a $10 million cap hit for

Twin Hughes at a $10 million cap hit for half of this year, which I would imagine

half of this year, which I would imagine I would be shocked if the New Jersey

I would be shocked if the New Jersey Devils aren't a top four team in the

Devils aren't a top four team in the Eastern Conference by the time playoffs

Eastern Conference by the time playoffs hits. And to be able to add him for

hits. And to be able to add him for under 10 million or I believe he makes

under 10 million or I believe he makes does he what does he make nine and a

does he what does he make nine and a half or does he make 10?

half or does he make 10? Either way

Either way he will be able to to

he will be able to to if they can find a way to get Douggee

if they can find a way to get Douggee Hamilton off the books and maybe send

Hamilton off the books and maybe send him back and get that money and add

him back and get that money and add Quinn Hughes. I feel like if they make

Quinn Hughes. I feel like if they make like one or two minor adjustment deals

like one or two minor adjustment deals at the deadline, all of a sudden they're

at the deadline, all of a sudden they're they're a contender

they're a contender in my opinion. And that's it. Like Doug

in my opinion. And that's it. Like Doug Douggee Hamilton's cap hit is just as

Douggee Hamilton's cap hit is just as much. Maybe it's like the exact same as

much. Maybe it's like the exact same as what Quinn Hughes is. And no disrespect

what Quinn Hughes is. And no disrespect to Douggee Hamilton because like there

to Douggee Hamilton because like there are years where I believe he's hit the

are years where I believe he's hit the 70 point mark and he is a dynamic

70 point mark and he is a dynamic offensive player. I just believe that

offensive player. I just believe that from an overall game perspective, like

from an overall game perspective, like even despite Quinn Hughes's size, he

even despite Quinn Hughes's size, he closes on guys defensively. Like he's

closes on guys defensively. Like he's very good in structure. He drives

very good in structure. He drives traffic. Like why would

traffic. Like why would break am I getting a comment from

break am I getting a comment from Posasha here in the chat?

Posasha here in the chat? 7.85 is what Quinn Hughes makes. Douggee

7.85 is what Quinn Hughes makes. Douggee makes nine.

makes nine. It's 7.85. That's what Hughes what And

It's 7.85. That's what Hughes what And what does he have? One two more years or

what does he have? One two more years or one.

one. He's got this year and next year left on

He's got this year and next year left on his deal. I thought he was in the nine

his deal. I thought he was in the nine range. My apologies.

range. My apologies. He should be in the 12 range. 13.

He should be in the 12 range. 13. Quinn Hughes only makes under 8 million.

Quinn Hughes only makes under 8 million. He must have signed that right out of

He must have signed that right out of his rookie deal.

his rookie deal. Well, Luke hasn't signed. I mean, Pasha

Well, Luke hasn't signed. I mean, Pasha would literally we would never he'd be

would literally we would never he'd be poof gone.

poof gone. Yeah, but

Yeah, but we'd never hear from him again.

we'd never hear from him again. He'd disappear.

He'd disappear. Okay. It just seems like a lot for

Okay. It just seems like a lot for and and

and and [ __ ] man. If New Jersey does end up

[ __ ] man. If New Jersey does end up having to move off of Luke and Jack

having to move off of Luke and Jack because all of a sudden they want to be

because all of a sudden they want to be New York Rangers or want to go somewhere

New York Rangers or want to go somewhere else, well, you also have a [ __ ] ton of

else, well, you also have a [ __ ] ton of leverage there. like that's you're going

leverage there. like that's you're going to get a boatload in return. I know you

to get a boatload in return. I know you don't want it happening, but I would if

don't want it happening, but I would if I I would bank on that all of them end

I I would bank on that all of them end up in New Jersey. That would be my that

up in New Jersey. That would be my that would be my guess.

would be my guess. And

And what about you? What do you think? I

what about you? What do you think? I think if they I I yeah, I could all see

think if they I I yeah, I could all see them on New Jersey pretty easily, but at

them on New Jersey pretty easily, but at this like and I saw a lot of people

this like and I saw a lot of people saying this when this whole discussion

saying this when this whole discussion began or was brought up this past week.

began or was brought up this past week. How would you not want to all play

How would you not want to all play together? Like if people if anyone would

together? Like if people if anyone would ever be up it's like to play with your

ever be up it's like to play with your three brothers getting to play on the

three brothers getting to play on the same NHL team. That's the coolest thing

same NHL team. That's the coolest thing I've ever heard. So, I know Quinn Hughes

I've ever heard. So, I know Quinn Hughes probably doesn't care even like if there

probably doesn't care even like if there were to be backlash from fans in

were to be backlash from fans in Vancouver, but I also feel that he's

Vancouver, but I also feel that he's done so much for their organization even

done so much for their organization even despite through the ups and downs and

despite through the ups and downs and and especially going back to the circus

and especially going back to the circus last year and how he handled it so

last year and how he handled it so professionally and and it probably got

professionally and and it probably got exhausting for him how to answer all

exhausting for him how to answer all those questions being in the middle of

those questions being in the middle of it and the captain of the team. He has

it and the captain of the team. He has earned the right just like McDavid going

earned the right just like McDavid going to the Leafs. That's the last time I'm

to the Leafs. That's the last time I'm going to mention it. He's earned the

going to mention it. He's earned the right to kind of get that. But I I I

right to kind of get that. But I I I mentioned it before with all these these

mentioned it before with all these these big stars up for contract and the league

big stars up for contract and the league turning a little bit more like the NBA

turning a little bit more like the NBA where there is kind of a I feel like

where there is kind of a I feel like these guys want to play in the big smoke

these guys want to play in the big smoke and they can kind of decide it now. Like

and they can kind of decide it now. Like that is the family where if they want to

that is the family where if they want to play for the New York Rangers, it's

play for the New York Rangers, it's happening and a nobody's stopping it.

happening and a nobody's stopping it. What if they all went what if they all

What if they all went what if they all went to the Wings?

went to the Wings? That'd be sick.

That'd be sick. That would be awesome because Detroit

That would be awesome because Detroit needs to make playoffs and I still think

needs to make playoffs and I still think that they're going to end up in limbo.

that they're going to end up in limbo. Pick anywhere, it'd be the Hughes

Pick anywhere, it'd be the Hughes brothers all are on the Red Wings

brothers all are on the Red Wings together.

together. Really?

Really? Yeah. I want the Wings and I've said

Yeah. I want the Wings and I've said this for years. It's kind of incredible

this for years. It's kind of incredible that the Wings have been jokes since

that the Wings have been jokes since this podcast began. Basically, the Wings

this podcast began. Basically, the Wings were like growing up, it was like, "Oh

were like growing up, it was like, "Oh my god, the it's just the Red Wings.

my god, the it's just the Red Wings. They crush everyone."

They crush everyone." So,

So, they made the playoffs 20 years in a

they made the playoffs 20 years in a row, right?

row, right? Yeah. I want them

Yeah. I want them on the big stage again.

on the big stage again. I guarantee the league does, too.

I guarantee the league does, too. So, who knows? I mean, it's just an

So, who knows? I mean, it's just an interesting conversation to me because

interesting conversation to me because it's thinking of the chance of those

it's thinking of the chance of those kids all playing together and it's a

kids all playing together and it's a very realistic possibility in New

very realistic possibility in New Jersey. You know, Quinn plays out this

Jersey. You know, Quinn plays out this year and he's like, "Guys, I'm thank you

year and he's like, "Guys, I'm thank you so much, but I'm I'm not signing here."

so much, but I'm I'm not signing here." And boom, Jersey, send me a jersey. I

And boom, Jersey, send me a jersey. I don't if I would my guess is going to be

don't if I would my guess is going to be if they're outside of a playoff spot by

if they're outside of a playoff spot by the time the deadline comes around in

the time the deadline comes around in Vancouver, they are just going to

Vancouver, they are just going to straight up ask him and if he ain't

straight up ask him and if he ain't coming back, which he's not, I think

coming back, which he's not, I think they're dumb if they don't ship him out

they're dumb if they don't ship him out this year. And cuz you're getting so

this year. And cuz you're getting so much more return. Not to say he's not

much more return. Not to say he's not going to get a boatload

going to get a boatload from from New Jersey. If if I'm New

from from New Jersey. If if I'm New Jersey, I'm basically giving up every

Jersey, I'm basically giving up every firstrounder I have to get him if he's

firstrounder I have to get him if he's going to sign.

going to sign. The only problem being though

The only problem being though and that he wouldn't be able to reup

and that he wouldn't be able to reup right away. So there's a bit of a

right away. So there's a bit of a there's a risk involved,

there's a risk involved, right?

right? Um

Um cuz cuz cuz he's he's still he would

cuz cuz cuz he's he's still he would have they would have to wait till July

have they would have to wait till July 1st cuz he's still got over a year left.

1st cuz he's still got over a year left. But if Jack and Luke are locked up, he's

But if Jack and Luke are locked up, he's going to stay there.

going to stay there. Yeah. Or he's like, "All right, I'm

Yeah. Or he's like, "All right, I'm going to go where you guys are coming in

going to go where you guys are coming in a couple years."

a couple years." Yeah. Or or he goes there and he's like,

Yeah. Or or he goes there and he's like, "Oh, I'll see how it is and then we'll

"Oh, I'll see how it is and then we'll all make our decision at the end of the

all make our decision at the end of the year." Cuz But Luke is Does Luke have to

year." Cuz But Luke is Does Luke have to sign his contract this summer?

sign his contract this summer? Yeah. And it I thought he'd be signed by

Yeah. And it I thought he'd be signed by now.

now. There's one other big name who hasn't

There's one other big name who hasn't signed his deal.

signed his deal. Who?

Who? Uh Mason McTavish.

Uh Mason McTavish. There's another one then. Somebody else

There's another one then. Somebody else hasn't signed their deal. G, help us,

hasn't signed their deal. G, help us, baby.

baby. There's a few bigname guys who who still

There's a few bigname guys who who still haven't been locked up before training

haven't been locked up before training camp.

camp. I know it's a crazy take, but uh PFT

I know it's a crazy take, but uh PFT said it a while ago when I was listening

said it a while ago when I was listening to pardon my take. They were talking

to pardon my take. They were talking about brothers. It might have been

about brothers. It might have been during the LeBron and his son playing

during the LeBron and his son playing with his son, and he was like, "If you

with his son, and he was like, "If you have a sibling in the league, you should

have a sibling in the league, you should be able to play." Like, how cool would

be able to play." Like, how cool would it be to see Brady and Matthew play

it be to see Brady and Matthew play together? How cool? Like, I got to play

together? How cool? Like, I got to play with Eric and Mark Stall together. It

with Eric and Mark Stall together. It was so sick. like just to sit in the

was so sick. like just to sit in the locker room and be like, "Oh my god,

locker room and be like, "Oh my god, this dude's brother is right next to

this dude's brother is right next to him." Like how [ __ ] cool is that, you

him." Like how [ __ ] cool is that, you know? So, I just think the storylines of

know? So, I just think the storylines of what you want, like it makes so much

what you want, like it makes so much sense for all those guys to play

sense for all those guys to play together. I hope it happens at some

together. I hope it happens at some point. Obviously, it's going to hurt one

point. Obviously, it's going to hurt one team or one fan base a lot, but to play

team or one fan base a lot, but to play with your brother and it's such a small

with your brother and it's such a small opportunity to do it, I think it would

opportunity to do it, I think it would be the coolest thing in the world.

be the coolest thing in the world. Yeah. fans. If you could pick one team

Yeah. fans. If you could pick one team outside of New Jersey where you would

outside of New Jersey where you would want to see the Hughes brothers play,

want to see the Hughes brothers play, where would you want them?

where would you want them? I think a package deal, get the Quinn,

I think a package deal, get the Quinn, the Hueses, and then Brady Kachchuck

the Hueses, and then Brady Kachchuck down here in Florida. Had them all down

down here in Florida. Had them all down here, all the brothers. And yeah,

here, all the brothers. And yeah, five of them. Uh, Bis G says it's uh

five of them. Uh, Bis G says it's uh Luke Evangelista and Alex Hol are the

Luke Evangelista and Alex Hol are the only other two.

only other two. What do you think Luke is Luke Hughes is

What do you think Luke is Luke Hughes is trying to get? What's his

trying to get? What's his I was wondering that too.

I was wondering that too. And and he could how many years like are

And and he could how many years like are they offering him long or they or is he

they offering him long or they or is he like I don't want long. I It's a hard

like I don't want long. I It's a hard game out there now. And and I think

game out there now. And and I think these are wild times for agents and

these are wild times for agents and players because the cap's going up and

players because the cap's going up and up and up and then you see reports of

up and up and then you see reports of where it could actually go like in 10

where it could actually go like in 10 years and it's just such a different

years and it's just such a different game now. Like it's it's hard to be

game now. Like it's it's hard to be somebody you how do you even know what

somebody you how do you even know what you want if you're going to sign eight

you want if you're going to sign eight years where 6 years from now you're not

years where 6 years from now you're not like what the hell did I sign this

like what the hell did I sign this contract for?

contract for? I'm I'm looking it up now. But how many

I'm I'm looking it up now. But how many years does Jack Hughes have left?

years does Jack Hughes have left? He has five or five.

He has five or five. He's got five including this year.

He's got five including this year. Okay.

Okay. That's why it's like why wouldn't they

That's why it's like why wouldn't they all just play in Jersey? that. Yeah,

all just play in Jersey? that. Yeah, that would be the only thing that really

that would be the only thing that really makes sense because the jersey is not

makes sense because the jersey is not going to make a trade with New York to

going to make a trade with New York to get them all there, right? Like you

get them all there, right? Like you No,

No, I think the only way it happens if you

I think the only way it happens if you they all go to Jersey right now, which

they all go to Jersey right now, which would be amazing.

would be amazing. I know. P. My god. Pasha, it would

I know. P. My god. Pasha, it would actually be even better in terms of what

actually be even better in terms of what I would want to happen to Pasha if they

I would want to happen to Pasha if they went there.

went there. Unreal year. If Biz's idea happens, he

Unreal year. If Biz's idea happens, he goes to Jersey halfway through this

goes to Jersey halfway through this year, they go on a run, they don't win

year, they go on a run, they don't win it. Maybe they make Eastern Conference

it. Maybe they make Eastern Conference finals or the cup finals and Posh's

finals or the cup finals and Posh's like, "Oh my god, like we're winning.

like, "Oh my god, like we're winning. We're winning three of these things in

We're winning three of these things in the next 5 years." And then Quinn's

the next 5 years." And then Quinn's like, "No, I'm all set." He goes

like, "No, I'm all set." He goes somewhere else and then, you know, the

somewhere else and then, you know, the other two are leaving. That would be

other two are leaving. That would be what I want to have to happen to Pasha.

what I want to have to happen to Pasha. That would be the best possible

That would be the best possible storyline. Hey, I wonder if he would

storyline. Hey, I wonder if he would take if he could take the trade right

take if he could take the trade right now, all three of them playing in New

now, all three of them playing in New Jersey the next two years together, but

Jersey the next two years together, but then knowing after that all three are

then knowing after that all three are gone.

gone. Yeah, but you got Hughes for 5 years.

Yeah, but you got Hughes for 5 years. Oh, you're saying he'd be like,

Oh, you're saying he'd be like, "No, but I'm saying is like then he

"No, but I'm saying is like then he would request a trade and he's out of

would request a trade and he's out of there." Like would you take the the role

there." Like would you take the the role wouldn't risk it? He wouldn't risk it

wouldn't risk it? He wouldn't risk it because he knows even with all of them

because he knows even with all of them the next two years they don't have a cup

the next two years they don't have a cup winner.

winner. He would he would even admit that.

He would he would even admit that. You don't think with the three of them

You don't think with the three of them in the next

in the next Well, they have two of them. So, if they

Well, they have two of them. So, if they added Quinn, you're thinking just Quinn

added Quinn, you're thinking just Quinn Hughes alone there in the next two years

Hughes alone there in the next two years winning a Stanley Cup.

winning a Stanley Cup. I think if you're swapping out Douggee

I think if you're swapping out Douggee Hamilton's money for Quinn Hughes and

Hamilton's money for Quinn Hughes and and then you have you you can make some

and then you have you you can make some I mean, I know Pot Palot struggled,

I mean, I know Pot Palot struggled, right? He's not the Palot we saw in

right? He's not the Palot we saw in Tampa Bay. I would imagine that's

Tampa Bay. I would imagine that's somebody that you're trying to get off

somebody that you're trying to get off the books and if you could sub him in

the books and if you could sub him in for like a player that could be as

for like a player that could be as impactful, let's say like a Barbashev

impactful, let's say like a Barbashev like when he went ended up going over to

like when he went ended up going over to the

the size Jersey needs like bigger.

size Jersey needs like bigger. Yeah. Like if if to me if they were able

Yeah. Like if if to me if they were able to like make the Quinn Hughes move and

to like make the Quinn Hughes move and then like add like a Barbashev, I think

then like add like a Barbashev, I think you're honestly like one more move away

you're honestly like one more move away if if all of a sudden all these guys

if if all of a sudden all these guys have a have a big year. Like

have a have a big year. Like where is he Japan right now? He can't

where is he Japan right now? He can't answer this cuz he's in is he Japan

answer this cuz he's in is he Japan still?

still? He's in He's in I No, he went over to

He's in He's in I No, he went over to Korea.

Korea. Korea now. South Korea.

Korea now. South Korea. Nice.

Nice. Posh is just all over the world, man.

Posh is just all over the world, man. This guy's a world traveler. Jesus

This guy's a world traveler. Jesus Christ. I thought I took vacations.

Christ. I thought I took vacations. We We are shriveling Vancouver basically

We We are shriveling Vancouver basically saying he's not going to stay there. I'm

saying he's not going to stay there. I'm kind of excited. I'm kind of excited to

kind of excited. I'm kind of excited to see uh Vancouver this year.

see uh Vancouver this year. I want to I want to see

I want to I want to see How many games are you going to watch of

How many games are you going to watch of the Vancouver Conucks with? How many?

the Vancouver Conucks with? How many? But if they're not playing the Edmonton

But if they're not playing the Edmonton Oilers, how many games of them are you

Oilers, how many games of them are you going to watch?

going to watch? Listen, fair question.

Listen, fair question. If Person can like be the Patterson he

If Person can like be the Patterson he used to when he was I was watching the

used to when he was I was watching the 10:00 Saturday night like Hawin and

10:00 Saturday night like Hawin and Canada had Vancouver games on. I was

Canada had Vancouver games on. I was like this guy's unreal to watch. Me and

like this guy's unreal to watch. Me and Quinn Hughes made it so fun. JT I mean

Quinn Hughes made it so fun. JT I mean they had

they had they had like a fun team to watch

they had like a fun team to watch and then last year was just a disaster.

and then last year was just a disaster. And let's see this year. What if

And let's see this year. What if Patterson's nasty?

Patterson's nasty? I think Patterson's going to have a big

I think Patterson's going to have a big year. They I don't know if you guys

year. They I don't know if you guys talked

talked I don't know if you guys talked about it

I don't know if you guys talked about it last pod. He's he's added about 15

last pod. He's he's added about 15 pounds of muscle. Uh got married to an

pounds of muscle. Uh got married to an absolute missile launcher this summer. I

absolute missile launcher this summer. I don't know if he's just a beautiful

don't know if he's just a beautiful girl. So,

girl. So, so I mean he's got a lot of things going

so I mean he's got a lot of things going for him and I think that with JT gone

for him and I think that with JT gone and and a mental reset in the offseason,

and and a mental reset in the offseason, I think he's going to put up like 85 to

I think he's going to put up like 85 to 90 points this season.

90 points this season. Yeah. I think I think he's I think he's

Yeah. I think I think he's I think he's putting up 35 tucks.

putting up 35 tucks. All right.

All right. Yeah, I think he should.

Yeah, I think he should. We're going to have the previews coming

We're going to have the previews coming up soon. I mean, at some point, next

up soon. I mean, at some point, next couple weeks, get the

couple weeks, get the division previews. We got to get some

division previews. We got to get some people on for those. That's always fun.

people on for those. That's always fun. And

And yeah, what else did you have? Sorry,

yeah, what else did you have? Sorry, Biz. I interrupted you.

Biz. I interrupted you. Oh, I think maybe the name I was

Oh, I think maybe the name I was thinking of was Bard cuz he has the

thinking of was Bard cuz he has the ability to sign, but he hasn't yet. Um,

ability to sign, but he hasn't yet. Um, but uh, yeah, I thought there was one,

but uh, yeah, I thought there was one, it's going to come to me. There's one

it's going to come to me. There's one other guy who hasn't signed before

other guy who hasn't signed before training camp and uh, it might be a cap

training camp and uh, it might be a cap situation with one of the teams where

situation with one of the teams where they haven't figured out their cap

they haven't figured out their cap situation. Unless that player was signal

situation. Unless that player was signal sign or or does he have

sign or or does he have No, he Eel can sign now.

No, he Eel can sign now. He's only got one more year too. Jeez.

He's only got one more year too. Jeez. He's one of those guys who is one of

He's one of those guys who is one of those superstars who's waiting for one

those superstars who's waiting for one of the dominoes to fall. Imagine if they

of the dominoes to fall. Imagine if they like somehow because it's like the you

like somehow because it's like the you see for a long time now next year's UFA

see for a long time now next year's UFA class or two years from now UFA class

class or two years from now UFA class and back in the day it was a big deal.

and back in the day it was a big deal. Well now the big dogs they they they

Well now the big dogs they they they don't even get there.

don't even get there. Imagine if this crazy one after next

Imagine if this crazy one after next season they all were like let's just all

season they all were like let's just all wait it out.

wait it out. Oh my god. You just put another one in

Oh my god. You just put another one in the in the chat. Kempe

the in the chat. Kempe Kempe could re Yeah, that's your guy Biz

Kempe could re Yeah, that's your guy Biz who you originally when you first

who you originally when you first started saying 10 million a year. They

started saying 10 million a year. They got laughed at you and now it's like no

got laughed at you and now it's like no brainer. That guy's a dog.

brainer. That guy's a dog. He's getting He's getting 10 for sure.

He's getting He's getting 10 for sure. He's a superstar.

He's a superstar. He just plays in LA so we don't talk to

He just plays in LA so we don't talk to him. He's a I think he's he's gotten 40

him. He's a I think he's he's gotten 40 goals twice in his career.

goals twice in his career. Like how many guys are doing that these

Like how many guys are doing that these days?

days? And he's sick in the playoffs. They lose

And he's sick in the playoffs. They lose first round, but he's nasty in every

first round, but he's nasty in every every time they play the Oilers.

every time they play the Oilers. And he's he's got a mean streak to him.

And he's he's got a mean streak to him. He plays like a bulldog.

He plays like a bulldog. Yeah,

Yeah, he's a piece of [ __ ] to play against.

he's a piece of [ __ ] to play against. Um, speaking of a bulldog, Keith, that

Um, speaking of a bulldog, Keith, that that game Saturday, I mean,

that game Saturday, I mean, holy [ __ ] Go home.

holy [ __ ] Go home. University of Georgia, they

University of Georgia, they shocked. I mean, I'm watching this game

shocked. I mean, I'm watching this game there. It was 21-7, right, after the

there. It was 21-7, right, after the first quarter?

first quarter? It was 14. It was Yeah. 14-7 then. Yeah,

It was 14. It was Yeah. 14-7 then. Yeah, it was

it was 217. Yeah.

217. Yeah. Insane game

Insane game ends up where Tennessee

ends up where Tennessee They have a chance to win it in

They have a chance to win it in regulation with a field goal.

regulation with a field goal. Look at him. We just listened to his

Look at him. We just listened to his whole mountain climbing experience and

whole mountain climbing experience and he's on the phone when you're trying to

he's on the phone when you're trying to tell him about the Georgia Bulldog.

tell him about the Georgia Bulldog. We can relive it. He's not listening.

We can relive it. He's not listening. No, no, no. There there's there's

No, no, no. There there's there's rumblings that uh Dylan Dubet might sign

rumblings that uh Dylan Dubet might sign with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I just

with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I just thought that that was an interesting

thought that that was an interesting story that I just got sent over.

story that I just got sent over. Oh, okay.

Oh, okay. But go back to your your Bulldogs.

Go dogs. Okay. So, they were they were up or they

Okay. So, they were they were up or they were down how many points?

were down how many points? It ended up Tennessee's got a chance. No

It ended up Tennessee's got a chance. No time remaining to kick the game-winning

time remaining to kick the game-winning field goal.

field goal. They're showing this kid on the

They're showing this kid on the sideline.

sideline. Keith, I don't know. It was like It felt

Keith, I don't know. It was like It felt like it was 12 to 15 minutes after they

like it was 12 to 15 minutes after they started realizing that he was going to

started realizing that he was going to have a kick to win it before he actually

have a kick to win it before he actually kicked it. They ran all these plays to

kicked it. They ran all these plays to try to get in the middle of the field,

try to get in the middle of the field, get a couple more yards, couple more

get a couple more yards, couple more yards, get him closer. So, he's he's the

yards, get him closer. So, he's he's the center of the broadcast and in the

center of the broadcast and in the stadium, you know, everyone's seeing the

stadium, you know, everyone's seeing the kid back and forth. He's doing some

kid back and forth. He's doing some warm-up kicks in the net. And he did not

warm-up kicks in the net. And he did not have a look of confidence like

have a look of confidence like at all.

at all. And it was just so long that I'm like, I

And it was just so long that I'm like, I don't think he's going to miss this.

don't think he's going to miss this. Like, this is he was getting freezed

Like, this is he was getting freezed out, dude. He misses the thing.

out, dude. He misses the thing. How far? Oh, just shank the thing.

How far? Oh, just shank the thing. Right.

Right. No, no, it was like a 37 y, wasn't it?

No, no, it was like a 37 y, wasn't it? Okay. Not exactly.

Okay. Not exactly. I thought it was a little more. I think

I thought it was a little more. I think it was a little more than that.

it was a little more than that. Okay.

Okay. College I would say 20 like 30 yards in

College I would say 20 like 30 yards in is a chip shot. Anything past 30 yards

is a chip shot. Anything past 30 yards college, you don't know what you're

college, you don't know what you're doing.

doing. Dicey.

Dicey. Yeah, you're kind of right. Maybe 35.

Yeah, you're kind of right. Maybe 35. Dice. Yeah, you're

Dice. Yeah, you're But holy [ __ ] Then it goes to overtime.

But holy [ __ ] Then it goes to overtime. Georgia, they give up a field goal and

Georgia, they give up a field goal and then they get the ball running in. Just

then they get the ball running in. Just an incredible game. But I almost wish we

an incredible game. But I almost wish we could get the picture up of the kid. I

could get the picture up of the kid. I felt so bad for I hate seeing and then

felt so bad for I hate seeing and then he made the kick in overtime. Didn't

he made the kick in overtime. Didn't matter. But I Oh, I felt so bad for But

matter. But I Oh, I felt so bad for But I knew he was missing it. I knew it.

I knew he was missing it. I knew it. I know.

I know. It was one of those feelings, Keith. I

It was one of those feelings, Keith. I was like, "This kid is not making this."

was like, "This kid is not making this." If I type in Tennessee kicker, will it

If I type in Tennessee kicker, will it come up a picture of him?

come up a picture of him? But biz there's 106,000

But biz there's 106,000 people there watching. He has a chance.

people there watching. He has a chance. This this would be a huge win for

This this would be a huge win for Tennessee. Like massive. He would have

Tennessee. Like massive. He would have been

been an absolute legend on campus, dude. If

an absolute legend on campus, dude. If he had hit this and they won in regular

he had hit this and they won in regular regulation, he could have walked out of

regulation, he could have walked out of the stadium with his [ __ ] uniform off

the stadium with his [ __ ] uniform off completely.

completely. The dick sucked off his torso by all the

The dick sucked off his torso by all the cheerleaders to my stomach for the kid.

cheerleaders to my stomach for the kid. But I knew

But I knew I loved it cuz he missed it.

I loved it cuz he missed it. I knew.

I knew. So I'm seeing him right now and he looks

So I'm seeing him right now and he looks like the kid out of Little Giants

like the kid out of Little Giants blowing the boogers out of his nose.

blowing the boogers out of his nose. That is the perfect Yeah, like the kid

That is the perfect Yeah, like the kid who has he has got the bubble wrap at

who has he has got the bubble wrap at the beginning and stuff.

the beginning and stuff. I think he loses his head in one of the

I think he loses his head in one of the tackles of Little Giants. For any

tackles of Little Giants. For any younger listeners, like

younger listeners, like maybe Little Giants, if you rewatch it,

maybe Little Giants, if you rewatch it, I haven't seen it in quite a while. What

I haven't seen it in quite a while. What a movie that is.

a movie that is. You're saying that it was almost his own

You're saying that it was almost his own team's fault for icing him.

team's fault for icing him. I Yeah, penalty.

I Yeah, penalty. Oh my god, I forgot. Yeah. So Biz, he's

Oh my god, I forgot. Yeah. So Biz, he's getting he's they're going to kick it

getting he's they're going to kick it and the guy jumps offside. So five yard

and the guy jumps offside. So five yard penalty. That's I I I forgot the biggest

penalty. That's I I I forgot the biggest part of the story and that's when you

part of the story and that's when you were like, "Oh no, he didn't need that.

were like, "Oh no, he didn't need that. He didn't need that." The penalty.

He didn't need that." The penalty. I'm looking at this video and I'm

I'm looking at this video and I'm thinking like this is a skit for the out

thinking like this is a skit for the out of order.

of order. It looks like it's like sass. It's like

It looks like it's like sass. It's like little sass.

little sass. That's what I was saying. It looks like

That's what I was saying. It looks like little sass in a tennis.

little sass in a tennis. You said that. I didn't hear you say

You said that. I didn't hear you say that.

that. I said that in the in the Stormer's

I said that in the in the Stormer's group chat. I'm like he looks like

group chat. I'm like he looks like little sass. He's just like all stressed

little sass. He's just like all stressed out. He's like, "Oh my god."

out. He's like, "Oh my god." He's like, "Is this worth it? Why am I

He's like, "Is this worth it? Why am I here?"

here?" The college football like environment.

The college football like environment. It's just

It's just He's like, "I got to get my physics

He's like, "I got to get my physics report done for class on Monday.

report done for class on Monday. [ __ ] I think I forgot to do

[ __ ] I think I forgot to do it."

it." Still had to do it in the summer.

Still had to do it in the summer. Um, but it's orange section white

Um, but it's orange section white section orange 108,000 whatever. Oh my

section orange 108,000 whatever. Oh my god, what a game. To be fair, he then

god, what a game. To be fair, he then kicked a field goal in overtime to put

kicked a field goal in overtime to put them ahead 4138.

them ahead 4138. That's what I said. Yeah. So, he hit the

That's what I said. Yeah. So, he hit the one in overtime. But college rules, you

one in overtime. But college rules, you get the ball

get the ball um if you if you get a field goal, other

um if you if you get a field goal, other team touchdown wins. If you get no

team touchdown wins. If you get no points, other team needs a field goal.

points, other team needs a field goal. So, Georgia got the ball back and and

So, Georgia got the ball back and and scored a TD, which was brutal because

scored a TD, which was brutal because they were minus three and a half. They

they were minus three and a half. They only won by three. Keith was the one who

only won by three. Keith was the one who said, "Do they kick the extra point?"

said, "Do they kick the extra point?" I'm like, "Nope, that's a loss."

I'm like, "Nope, that's a loss." Yeah. I'll say for for He's got pretty

Yeah. I'll say for for He's got pretty nice calves.

nice calves. He should. He's a kicker.

He should. He's a kicker. I know. I'm just just trying to pump his

I know. I'm just just trying to pump his tires after a tough week. Jesus. Go

tires after a tough week. Jesus. Go dogs.

dogs. Um

Um the uh I think that there's really

the uh I think that there's really nothing else to talk about NFL wise. I I

nothing else to talk about NFL wise. I I didn't really uh burrow. I didn't know

didn't really uh burrow. I didn't know turf toe

turf toe is is like that bad. It just doesn't

is is like that bad. It just doesn't sound that bad. But I think they're

sound that bad. But I think they're saying he's out 3 months.

saying he's out 3 months. Got to get surgery.

Got to get surgery. He has to get surgery. He could be out

He has to get surgery. He could be out the whole year.

the whole year. 3 months. Yeah, that's what they're

3 months. Yeah, that's what they're saying anyway. Well, 3 months is

saying anyway. Well, 3 months is basically the whole NFL season.

basically the whole NFL season. Yeah.

Yeah. Big Cat, Big Cat, and PFT were like,

Big Cat, Big Cat, and PFT were like, they got to rename this. It doesn't

they got to rename this. It doesn't sound like it's that bad. Like, they

sound like it's that bad. Like, they have to rename this. They were like,

have to rename this. They were like, they got to talk to their uh sponsor or

they got to talk to their uh sponsor or whatever.

whatever. Yeah, agreed. Turf toe. It's like, God,

Yeah, agreed. Turf toe. It's like, God, Pluto, if Pluto just renames itself,

Pluto, if Pluto just renames itself, they're back in. Were you guys aware

they're back in. Were you guys aware that Pluto got put on waiverss?

that Pluto got put on waiverss? I had no clue.

I had no clue. Had no clue. But

Had no clue. But I learned a lot this episode.

I learned a lot this episode. We got to do more of these teaching

We got to do more of these teaching episodes. It's like the clip of Francis

episodes. It's like the clip of Francis when he teaches Dana Beers about all

when he teaches Dana Beers about all these different like things in life that

these different like things in life that you probably should know. Very funny

you probably should know. Very funny videos. Um,

videos. Um, they also told me that whales used to

they also told me that whales used to look like wolves and they used to roam

look like wolves and they used to roam the earth like on top of land.

the earth like on top of land. All right. Well, that's about it.

All right. Well, that's about it. Let's wrap it up.

Let's wrap it up. Episode 5,000.

Episode 5,000. I was going to ask you uh and you guys

I was going to ask you uh and you guys might not want to talk about this. Like

might not want to talk about this. Like just like you guys are American and like

just like you guys are American and like I you know I live in the States like the

I you know I live in the States like the the Charlie Kirk thing. Like that was

the Charlie Kirk thing. Like that was that was [ __ ] up, man. Like I don't

that was [ __ ] up, man. Like I don't give a [ __ ] what your political views

give a [ __ ] what your political views are. If you're online celebrating that

are. If you're online celebrating that type of stuff because he had certain

type of stuff because he had certain values and opinions, I think that you're

values and opinions, I think that you're out of your [ __ ] mind. and and and

out of your [ __ ] mind. and and and certain people in society have have

certain people in society have have truly truly lost it. And regardless of,

truly truly lost it. And regardless of, you know, like when all that George

you know, like when all that George Floyd stuff happened, when this type of

Floyd stuff happened, when this type of stuff happens and all of a sudden

stuff happens and all of a sudden there's so much hostility online, uh

there's so much hostility online, uh regardless of of the topic of it, it it

regardless of of the topic of it, it it gives me the heebie-jebies. and like for

gives me the heebie-jebies. and like for his family to have to go through what

his family to have to go through what they're going through and for this guy's

they're going through and for this guy's life to be taken because he went to

life to be taken because he went to universities and and wanted to debate

universities and and wanted to debate people and and talk about this stuff.

people and and talk about this stuff. It's it's

It's it's it it like it's truly like you're like

it it like it's truly like you're like like where the [ __ ] have we gone as as a

like where the [ __ ] have we gone as as a society and a world if if this is the

society and a world if if this is the type of [ __ ] that's going on and and the

type of [ __ ] that's going on and and the people celebrating it online like you

people celebrating it online like you guys are [ __ ] clowns. And I and and

guys are [ __ ] clowns. And I and and and this is coming from like a liberal

and this is coming from like a liberal Canadian like you're you're a [ __ ]

Canadian like you're you're a [ __ ] you're a [ __ ] clown if you're

you're a [ __ ] clown if you're celebrating that.

celebrating that. Yeah. I would say it's shocking like and

Yeah. I would say it's shocking like and in in the social media world which is

in in the social media world which is like you said it best. It does give me

like you said it best. It does give me the heebiejeebies. It's like it's it's

the heebiejeebies. It's like it's it's so [ __ ] evil and like dark and like

so [ __ ] evil and like dark and like there's so much just hate within social

there's so much just hate within social media and

media and but to see like like a lot not not just

but to see like like a lot not not just a couple like a lot of different

a couple like a lot of different scenarios and people who've lost their

scenarios and people who've lost their jobs who are writing messages like good

jobs who are writing messages like good he deserved to die and like it's just I

he deserved to die and like it's just I don't know

don't know I don't I don't live my life like that.

I don't I don't live my life like that. I I know my family, we don't I know you

I I know my family, we don't I know you guys, we don't live our lives like that.

guys, we don't live our lives like that. Like somebody loses their life, I don't

Like somebody loses their life, I don't give a [ __ ] Like I feel like the value

give a [ __ ] Like I feel like the value of life is like non-existent with some

of life is like non-existent with some people. And I think there's so many

people. And I think there's so many mentally ill people like that that need

mentally ill people like that that need help. Like I I think the internet has a

help. Like I I think the internet has a lot to do with it. I I think like you

lot to do with it. I I think like you read about I don't know anything. You

read about I don't know anything. You see like there's there's discords. I I

see like there's there's discords. I I don't even know what they are, but it's

don't even know what they are, but it's there's like a dark kind of nasty world

there's like a dark kind of nasty world online.

online. It's brutal and a lot of them don't like

It's brutal and a lot of them don't like they don't offer suffer consequence for

they don't offer suffer consequence for it. But for something like I think that

it. But for something like I think that Portoy put it put it good. Porto even

Portoy put it put it good. Porto even said he goes I probably disagree with or

said he goes I probably disagree with or disagree with 50 to 60% of the things

disagree with 50 to 60% of the things that that he would say but like you

that that he would say but like you you're the the fact that you're online

you're the the fact that you're online celebrating that and you and then still

celebrating that and you and then still think that you're a better person

think that you're a better person because of some of the values you do

because of some of the values you do carry to enough to celebrate what

carry to enough to celebrate what happened to him. You're not like you're

happened to him. You're not like you're you're evil. I don't care what biz like

you're evil. I don't care what biz like that's

that's what your values are. If you're

what your values are. If you're celebrating that, you're an evil human

celebrating that, you're an evil human being.

being. Yeah.

Yeah. Evil to the core.

Evil to the core. Yeah. And I would Yeah. I would say just

Yeah. And I would Yeah. I would say just so mentally ill. Like Yeah. I evil 100%.

so mentally ill. Like Yeah. I evil 100%. But at the same like if if you see like

But at the same like if if you see like the his kids and his wife and like the

the his kids and his wife and like the videos of his kid running onto a TV set

videos of his kid running onto a TV set with him and you're still saying those

with him and you're still saying those things like to me that's a serious like

things like to me that's a serious like you're mentally ill and there's so much

you're mentally ill and there's so much of it and you see it on online and

of it and you see it on online and I don't I don't know like what the the

I don't I don't know like what the the Hey, you want to go real deep? You have

Hey, you want to go real deep? You have kids. I've talked about this with Keith.

kids. I've talked about this with Keith. Like what the [ __ ] it going to be like

Like what the [ __ ] it going to be like in 20 years? Like yeah,

in 20 years? Like yeah, horrifying.

horrifying. So it it it is it is pretty horrifying.

So it it it is it is pretty horrifying. You want to talk about your mind not be

You want to talk about your mind not be able to comprehend outer space. We're

able to comprehend outer space. We're talking about Pluto. Try thinking about

talking about Pluto. Try thinking about how you're going to I mean I have ideas

how you're going to I mean I have ideas and on how to like you know raise your

and on how to like you know raise your children with the internet and like how

children with the internet and like how ridiculous and awful it can be and how

ridiculous and awful it can be and how many parts of it are horrible but you

many parts of it are horrible but you can get in an absolute

can get in an absolute bubble like lost trying to figure out

bubble like lost trying to figure out like what it's going to be like for them

like what it's going to be like for them and yeah there's just so many so many

and yeah there's just so many so many unhappy people. Now, this is online.

unhappy people. Now, this is online. Now, obviously, I I go out and like,

Now, obviously, I I go out and like, [ __ ] I live a a a very lucky life. No

[ __ ] I live a a a very lucky life. No doubt. Like, I can I can admit how

doubt. Like, I can I can admit how grateful I am for every single thing I

grateful I am for every single thing I have in my life. So, I don't have the

have in my life. So, I don't have the slightest clue of the struggles people

slightest clue of the struggles people live. But I meet a lot of great people

live. But I meet a lot of great people and like happy people and uh like

and like happy people and uh like good-hearted, like funny, naturally

good-hearted, like funny, naturally personable. Like so I think a lot of it

personable. Like so I think a lot of it is just online and it you're just people

is just online and it you're just people are all day

are all day and this is kind of like I I guess this

and this is kind of like I I guess this is the in discussion of Charlie Kirk.

is the in discussion of Charlie Kirk. You said all that best just

You said all that best just it's horrible that that was online that

it's horrible that that was online that video. I I watched the far away one and

video. I I watched the far away one and then on Keith our chat somebody sent the

then on Keith our chat somebody sent the closer one. Somebody saw it and wrote I

closer one. Somebody saw it and wrote I I wouldn't watch that one. That's

I wouldn't watch that one. That's disturbing. My wife saw it. She's like

disturbing. My wife saw it. She's like it's just I thought it was fake. I

it's just I thought it was fake. I thought it was fake when I when I first

thought it was fake when I when I first saw it. I'm like there's no way that

saw it. I'm like there's no way that this this happened. And

this this happened. And right

right um to go back to what you were saying

um to go back to what you were saying where like that would probably be like

where like that would probably be like that would be some advice I would give

that would be some advice I would give to even some of our younger audience

to even some of our younger audience where

where try not to get wrapped up in all the

try not to get wrapped up in all the politics and all the [ __ ] Like it's

politics and all the [ __ ] Like it's just going to it's just going to be

just going to it's just going to be constant arguing. Obviously inform

constant arguing. Obviously inform yourself, but don't dive so deep into it

yourself, but don't dive so deep into it where you're allowing it to affect your

where you're allowing it to affect your emotions in a way where it's driving you

emotions in a way where it's driving you crazy. Like I feel like during co that

crazy. Like I feel like during co that was a pivotal moment like even in

was a pivotal moment like even in today's society because like there was

today's society because like there was nothing really to do for for a period of

nothing really to do for for a period of time there where everyone was kind of

time there where everyone was kind of stuck at home waiting and watching the

stuck at home waiting and watching the news and watching their phones to when

news and watching their phones to when like we were going to get let out of our

like we were going to get let out of our cages. And I feel like that was the

cages. And I feel like that was the first time I really felt that it was

first time I really felt that it was maybe impacting my mind a little bit

maybe impacting my mind a little bit where since then like I avoided at all

where since then like I avoided at all costs where obviously it's hard to avoid

costs where obviously it's hard to avoid and and not see what had happened last

and and not see what had happened last week. But like I said, it's just more of

week. But like I said, it's just more of like this is sick. This is disturbing

like this is sick. This is disturbing and this the sick and disturbing people

and this the sick and disturbing people are going to continue this awful

are going to continue this awful discourse online going back back and

discourse online going back back and forth at one another. just separate

forth at one another. just separate yourself from it and know what's right

yourself from it and know what's right and wrong and like the people that you

and wrong and like the people that you talk about who you surround yourself

talk about who you surround yourself with. Try to find people like that where

with. Try to find people like that where it's it's just good-hearted people who

it's it's just good-hearted people who care about one another regardless of

care about one another regardless of maybe how they see certain things

maybe how they see certain things politically. So, it's uh it's a crazy

politically. So, it's uh it's a crazy world out there, folks. And uh it's only

world out there, folks. And uh it's only going to get crazier.

going to get crazier. I I Yeah, that's it. I don't I I we

I I Yeah, that's it. I don't I I we can't end on that cuz I try just to be

can't end on that cuz I try just to be like I'm living in the moment when I get

like I'm living in the moment when I get stressed out. I'm living in the moment.

stressed out. I'm living in the moment. I'm living today. It that's literally

I'm living today. It that's literally what I do. I take deep breaths and then

what I do. I take deep breaths and then I say, "I'm living in the moment. I'm

I say, "I'm living in the moment. I'm living right now." What we got right

living right now." What we got right now? But my last thing on it is back

now? But my last thing on it is back before social media, before the

before social media, before the internet, you would you would be

internet, you would you would be friendly with somebody you like not very

friendly with somebody you like not very close, but there's somebody you're

close, but there's somebody you're friendly with. You know, your kids play

friendly with. You know, your kids play sports together, like you run into them

sports together, like you run into them time to time, you work with them, and

time to time, you work with them, and you'd be like, "I like this person."

you'd be like, "I like this person." Like they're friendly. like

Like they're friendly. like you would have never seen their social

you would have never seen their social media, right? So like now like people

media, right? So like now like people people like hate people based on what

people like hate people based on what they post about when if it didn't exist,

they post about when if it didn't exist, you wouldn't even know those things

you wouldn't even know those things about the people

about the people cuz you don't really talk to talk about

cuz you don't really talk to talk about it like that.

it like that. Yeah. You don't. So like now it's like I

Yeah. You don't. So like now it's like I hate that person. It's like you never

hate that person. It's like you never met him and I don't know. I that to me

met him and I don't know. I that to me is like the worst part of it. Like

is like the worst part of it. Like but my thing is like if you if you

but my thing is like if you if you dislike something or someone like if I

dislike something or someone like if I don't like soccer I'm not going to be

don't like soccer I'm not going to be watching soccer or you know like using

watching soccer or you know like using that as an example but like why are

that as an example but like why are people people want to watch stuff to

people people want to watch stuff to like spew the hate? It's like just watch

like spew the hate? It's like just watch something you enjoy. Why are you

something you enjoy. Why are you watching

watching that's the problem? That's the

that's the problem? That's the technology. It's like that dopamine hit

technology. It's like that dopamine hit and it gets them like their nervous

and it gets them like their nervous system firing and and they, you know,

system firing and and they, you know, they don't know it's bad for them, but

they don't know it's bad for them, but it gets their excitement up and and I

it gets their excitement up and and I Yeah, I think that people are so into

Yeah, I think that people are so into their phones now and and also that's

their phones now and and also that's part of the argument about these apps,

part of the argument about these apps, right? Like like and I'm not picking a

right? Like like and I'm not picking a side on this. I think that when Elon

side on this. I think that when Elon bought Twitter, he kind of opened open

bought Twitter, he kind of opened open season where it wasn't as um certain

season where it wasn't as um certain things weren't as flagged down much as

things weren't as flagged down much as maybe when the guy prior did it.

maybe when the guy prior did it. The issue that maybe conservative people

The issue that maybe conservative people had with it was it was more like they

had with it was it was more like they would allow more of the left-leaning

would allow more of the left-leaning things to be allowed on the platform as

things to be allowed on the platform as opposed to the right side where now it's

opposed to the right side where now it's just a lot more open season. So people

just a lot more open season. So people who are younger and they're first being

who are younger and they're first being introduced to the internet, it's hard

introduced to the internet, it's hard for them to differentiate what what is

for them to differentiate what what is actually happening, what the truth is,

actually happening, what the truth is, clips getting condensed where there's

clips getting condensed where there's not really long form discourse where

not really long form discourse where it's just these like boom boom boom boom

it's just these like boom boom boom boom boom like hey like you know we [ __ ]

boom like hey like you know we [ __ ] around too and but like we're also

around too and but like we're also talking about sports when we drop these

talking about sports when we drop these clips. We're not talking about things

clips. We're not talking about things that are going to change people's lives

that are going to change people's lives like or or get people

like or or get people when you're in that game now, dude.

when you're in that game now, dude. That's a scary thing now. Like

That's a scary thing now. Like it's

it's think about it like a lot of people do

think about it like a lot of people do what he did do what you know like that

what he did do what you know like that that's a living people are making these

that's a living people are making these political commenters

political commenters online personalities. You're like

online personalities. You're like there's some sick people out there.

there's some sick people out there. But it it's like Yeah, it's [ __ ] it's

But it it's like Yeah, it's [ __ ] it's [ __ ] crazy. But I guess yeah, it was

[ __ ] crazy. But I guess yeah, it was probably smart you brought that up. Uh

probably smart you brought that up. Uh that's just a

that's just a well just more of a conversation like

well just more of a conversation like sometimes like we get like talking about

sometimes like we get like talking about things that are not hockey related and

things that are not hockey related and like once again like our prayers go out

like once again like our prayers go out to his family because this this is a

to his family because this this is a human being who was assassinated for for

human being who was assassinated for for his his views regardless if you disagree

his his views regardless if you disagree with him or not. And I think that it's

with him or not. And I think that it's important like we have a a job sometimes

important like we have a a job sometimes where we do have like younger kids who

where we do have like younger kids who play hockey who listen to us when

play hockey who listen to us when they're on the bus on the way to the

they're on the bus on the way to the rink. Like maybe maybe there's a kid

rink. Like maybe maybe there's a kid listening who was getting a little too

listening who was getting a little too wrapped up on it and he's letting it

wrapped up on it and he's letting it affect his emotions. Get away from it.

affect his emotions. Get away from it. There's so much more happier things to

There's so much more happier things to to to put your time and energy toward.

to to put your time and energy toward. And especially like you said, you don't

And especially like you said, you don't want to be not being buddies with your

want to be not being buddies with your buddies because of this [ __ ] like you

buddies because of this [ __ ] like you want to have

want to have people you've known forever and you're

people you've known forever and you're like

like now you're seeing things they post like

now you're seeing things they post like I hate I hate this person.

I hate I hate this person. I know.

I know. Um yeah. So Biz, I can't wait to watch

Um yeah. So Biz, I can't wait to watch Peacin. Y can't wait to see you.

Peacin. Y can't wait to see you. We got 10 days, boys. 10 days till we'll

We got 10 days, boys. 10 days till we'll be together. Even less than that,

be together. Even less than that, actually. And um uh I'm looking also

actually. And um uh I'm looking also RDER Cup weekend. It's just uh it's

RDER Cup weekend. It's just uh it's going to be awesome. So great catching

going to be awesome. So great catching up and we will be back next week soon

up and we will be back next week soon enough. The previews will start. We'll

enough. The previews will start. We'll get everything going and camp. You know,

get everything going and camp. You know, we got some storylines. Biz won't talk

we got some storylines. Biz won't talk about some of them, but everyone have a

about some of them, but everyone have a great week.

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