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This panel discussion emphasizes the critical need for collaboration between education, industry, government, and youth to achieve a just and inclusive energy transition, focusing on preparing a future-ready, low-carbon workforce.
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I'm honored to invite our esteemed
panelist that represents the bridge
between education, industry and youth
advocacy in Asan energy sector. So
please welcome Dr. Dr. Saraswati Shamini
Guna Secaran, senior lecturer of Unitan,
who brings the education and workforce
development perspectives, ensuring that
the next generation is wellprepared for
the just and inclusive energy transition.
transition.
Please welcome Miss Amira Bilkis,
co-founder of Youth for Energy Southeast
Asia, representing a youthled movement
in the energy sector.
Miss Singlong, founder of the Youth for
Energy Transition and Sustainability
Network at Petronas, who has been at the
forefront on engaging and empowering you
young professionals in Malaysia's energy
industry. And we will also have Miss
Vera Uprova, our who will be attend with
us virtually because she is in Moscow
right now. She's the senior manager of
international education um office state
atomic energy cooperation or rosatom who
leads the initiative to expand access to
high-tech educations for next generation
and energy professionals. So uh Vera can
you hear me?
>> Yes. Uh good morning dear colleagues I
can hear you well.
>> Okay so I will uh have a seat first. Um
yeah, thank you everyone for attending
this panel. Um hopefully we could have
an insightful discussions not only about
youth engagement but also industry and
education and how all the sectors could
be collaborating together to achieve a
just and inclusive energy transitions.
So everyone um before we started well
Miss Farah here uh we we acknowledge
that um the foundation of everything in
just an inclusive energy transition the
first principle would be an education
and also the movement itself and as the
energy landscape transforms we have to
prepare the workforce for new
opportunities uh and challenges ahead.
To begin this session, I would like to
invite Miss Vera to present about
Rosatom's general approach to human
resources development and educational
system especially of the topic of clean
energy. So, Miss Vera, the time is yours.
yours.
>> Uh, dear Andira, thank you very much.
Uh, I hope that you can see my
presentation and I would I'd like to ask
to move to the next slide, please. Uh so
uh as you know uh I represent Rosatam
state atomic energy corporation and at
the moment uh we are proud to say that
uh Russia is that the leading position
at the international market of nuclear
technology. We have o over 80 years of
experience in various
areas uh related to uranium ore mining
uh constructing new nuclear power plants
constructing unique research reactors
producing isotopes and even the only uh
nuclear fleet in the world is also
operated by resatom. The next slide please.
please.
Of course, we are very proud that we are
realizing our project not only in Russia
but also in other countries. And of
course, we understand that success of
any project develops on the people on
the highly qualified professionals
involved at every stage of its
realization studying from the decision
making about nuclear power plant or any
other nuclear facility up to uh
commissioning of the project and its
decommissioning. The next slide please.
So, Rousardam uh realizes a very wide
range of various uh human resources
development activities starting from
forming human resources development
joint working groups with our partner
countries developing strategic plans for
human resources development and also
providing scholarships are supporting
academic exchanges and crossun
university cooperation.
The next slide please.
So, Rosam uh approach is based on the
IAA principles and we offer a wide range
of various opportunities to support and
develop staff uh in five main categories
like operating personnel of nuclear
power plants and research reactors,
construction engineering personnel,
nuclear infrastructure,
uh young specialists and professors of
the universities and of course
scientific research. searches. The next
slide please.
So for the recent 15 years, Rosatam has
developed a whole educational ecosystem
that engages talents from the secondary
school, colleges, universities both in
Russia and abroad. And also we have two Rossamademies
Rossamademies
that provide a wide range of
professional development and upskilling
programs to avoid any gaps in knowledges
of the existing personnel on the
lifelong learning principle. The next
slide please.
So we work um with our partner
universities uh who are the key element
of this ecosystem in four main directions.
directions.
First, we teach international students
from all over the world at the Russian
universities in nuclear and related
areas. I must say that all the students
uh do it free of charge because we
provide the uh Russian government
scholarships for them and at the moment
there are over 2,000 international
students doing their degree in nuclear
in Russia.
Also, we understand that uh it's
impossible to transfer the technology
without the education. So we really
support crossun university cooperation
between Russian and overseas
universities through uh joint academic
programs and opening branch campuses uh
of our partner universities in other countries.
countries.
Also as I've said already we provide
wide range of professional development
and upskilling programs
uh and support international networking.
Also recently Rosatam initiated um a new
very ambitious project uh called obninsk
tech. This is um the project aimed to
integrate the best practices and the
best academic programs and nuclear and
related areas provided by the Russian
universities and it's called obninsk
uh due to the city where the first
nuclear power plant is located.
The next slide please.
So um all the educational programs are
practically oriented. We understand this
is very important because the future
professionals need to know the equipment
they're going to work with when they're
back home. Either this is nuclear power
plant or the research reactor. So all
the international students do their
practical trainings at Rosatam training
centers and enterprises.
The next slide please.
And talking about um uh overcoming the
gaps in knowledge of the existing
personnel, we provide a wide range of um
professional development programs not
only in technological aspects of nuclear
technology but also providing
methodological support to the university
faculty members for them to be able to
develop new academic programs in their
home universities in their home countries.
countries.
The next slide please. So thank you very
much dear colleagues for your
attentions. This is briefly about the
Rosatam approach to human resources
development, capacity building and uh
supporting talents from the very young
age and uh good morning again from very
early morning Moscow and I would be
happy to reply any of your questions.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Miss Farah, uh, for your
wonderful, um, presentations. So, just
to let everyone know, uh, it's 4:00
a.m., yeah, 4 4:00 a.m. is uh, right
there in Moscow. And thank you very
much, Miss Farah, for your time and
efforts, um, to talk within this uh,
session. And uh, I just want to notify
that uh, maybe Miss Farah need to
leaving us earlier today. Um and we're
really grateful that you can join
despite of the all the time difference
and thank you so much. Appreciate your
eart and perspectives. Thank you Vera.
So uh let's continue the conversation uh
with our panelist here on the stage and
as Miss Vera highlighted uh just now
that inside of uh trainings to shape a
better uh qualified uh human resources
it education is also important to uh be
the principle of a just and inclusive
energy transition. So Dr. Sarasati um
how is UNITAN efforts in shaping and
also training to support a better
qualified uh human resources especially
in education and academic sector um to
as an approach to adjust an inclusive
energy transition.
>> Thank you very much Indira. Um you know normally
normally
my usual practice is I will normally be
the moderator and I'll be asking
questions to the list of panelist. So
this time around it's a different
ballgame alto together. It's really nice
to ask questions. Yeah. Okay. Coming
back to the uh topic of discussion.
Now I think um we are in a era where we
are rushing and we need to actually move
towards uh net zero emission in less
than 25 years. Malaysia and all the
ASEAN region are working together
towards this initiative. Now one of the
key enabler to move towards this
direction would be the people right. So
apart from technology, apart from
infrastructure, people play an important
role in this overall energy transition ecosystem.
ecosystem.
Now as an education industry,
UNIN also known as University Tanaga
National uh is a subsidiary organization
from Tanaga National Brahhat. Tanaga
National Brahhat TNB is one of the main
utility service provider in Malaysia.
So what we do is our mission is
basically to leverage education and
training to ensure that um the young
generation that we produce meets the
demand of energy transition of the
nation. Now how do we go about doing
this? There's a few ways that we have
actually looked into. Uh the first and
foremost um if you have heard recently
in uh Unien University Tanaga National
we have an energy hub. We call it the
National Energy Center. Now this is
something that we are very proud of. So
the National Energy Center hosts or
place about seven research institutes
within its uh building. uh and this
research institutes um varies across
different expertise. So we have what we
call um the power engineering research
institute uh sustainability research
institute uh energy informatics research
institute uh institute of energy policy
nuclear energy research institute so
various research institutes uh we have
in this uh national energy center. Now
what do we do here? So one of the main
thing that we try to uh provide for our
students for our young graduates is to
bring them along in latest advancement
in energy related research. So what we
do here is we bring them together with
all the research work that are being
conducted in the research institutes and
we work very closely with Tanaga
National Brahhat. So you see a lot of
projects that talks about the smart grid
ecosystem. We talk about hydrogen
technology. We talk about best the
battery energy storage system. So
students gets handon's practice when it
comes to energy related research work.
So this is one of the initiative that we
have actually taken to bring the
students to meet the demand of the
energy industry. right now. Uh next what
we have also done is we looked into our
curriculum uh and we have actually
designed modules to support the need for
green talent. So two major programs that
we have actually introduced so far is
diploma in renewable energy
technologies. Now this is where we
actually conduct uh workbased learning
modules where students uh partial of
their uh academic experience would be
having hands-on industry experience.
Right? So this is where we introduce
them to solar technology. We introduce
them to carbon credits calculation and
things like that. And uh the other
post-graduate program that we have at
UNIN is masters in energy management. So
this is um very very um in line with the
energy transition road map that Malaysia
has whereby we follow the new energy
efficiency and conver conversion um
conservation act 2024 where we bring in
all those policies in this module. We
introduce them to all these policies in
this particular module. Now apart from
that we also believe that existing
talent the current workforce would
require upskilling and reskilling. Now
for this purpose we have worked very
closely with Tanaga National Brahad. We
came up with uh the energy transition
acade academy. Right. So this is where
we provide training for existing uh
staffs in Tanaga National Brahad to
reskill them to upskill them to the
demand of the green ecosystem that is required
required
in time. Right? So these are some of the
things that we have been working
continuously at university tanaga
national and uh I would say that
with regards to all these efforts I
think we always believe that it's very
important to empower our youth right um
how do we empower our youth we bring
them along with our innovation strategy
we give them the ownership We send them
for competition with regards to energy
related competition and then they come
back with lots of innovative ideas with
all these medals and they own research
which is related to the energy industry.
So this is how we are billing talent and
uh I believe this has actually
contributed to a future graduates of
generation which is ready to join the
workforce. So I hope I've answered the question.
question.
>> Yes, completely. You you answer it's
super complete and I could take that
there are three main aspect that UN unit
has been doing. Uh the first one is to
provide the platform the center itself
for renewable energy. The second one uh
from the root the educational route you
shape the curriculum that is uh focusing
on renewable energy and also carbon
accounting uh that is aligned with the
national policies that will prepare them
to uh have better consideration uh in
shaping uh the future of renewable
energy and the third is also the support
in skill which UNITAN also provides
training uh and also youth enforcement.
women uh so that they will be more
qualified uh whenever they graduate from
the university to compete with others
and also present uh the good quality of
uh human resource I could say uh that
could compete globally. So that's a
point I mean that's really important how
unit structured and also um consider all
aspect to improve one personality of
each student. Thank you very much Dr.
>> Indra just to add a little bit more
because I would like to also touch on
the term inclusivity.
Now most of our programs at the
university you could actually see a huge
number of population of women. Yeah.
Taking up all these energy related
programs. So that is something that we
are very proud of. Apart from that, we
also go the extra mile where we bring in
students from the indigenous community.
We provide them with scholarship and and
we provide them with the necessary
education where they can actually be
future energy renewable energy engineers
and things like that. So that's just to
add a little bit on on the topic on
inclusivity. Thanks.
>> Thank you Dr. Sarasati. So uh as she
discussed earlier that education is also
the base principle of all uh this just
and inclusive energy thing. So we have
two of the target markets here. We have
two uh youth representatives uh who is
also actively contributing and shaping
and providing platform for the youth
itself to know more to improve them uh
in the terms of just and inclusive
energy transition. So and now with us we
already have two out of u millions
future energy leaders uh to talk about
the energy transitions. So um it's
inspiring how to hear your universities
are preparing the next generations for
energy transitions and I would like to
ask Miss Amira Bilis about uh your
institutions the youth for um energy
Southeast Asia and how are young people
in the region mobilizing for a faster
fairer just inclusion and within all the
barriers that uh they have been facing.
So Miss Amira, the time is yours.
>> Thank you so much. Um I do have a bit of
slide just to kind of like illustrate to
you. Um so as introduced, my name is
Amira Bilkis. Um I'm actually now a
managing directors of youth for energy
Southeast Asia. We are a youthled
organization that has been around since
three years ago. And what is interesting because
because
it actually started as a very short
discussions and basically venting a bit
about how the young people are actually
very much excluded in many aspects of um
energy sectors because energy sectors is
known for two things. Very maledominated.
maledominated.
The second one is very boomers oriented.
But then we realize that energy
transitions is not spending only for 10
years or 20 years where probably I'm
still young. But then it would actually
continues on until like 50 or 60, you
know. So I think it's it's important for
us to understand that the young people
is actually very important stakeholders
in the present and the future. Um, next
slide please. Basically, I'm just going
to show you what we are actually doing.
Three things that we want to try to do.
First, to increase the representation.
I've been invited to many opportunities
in G7, G20, in the EU, Azan, in Azan um
with um the African nations and so
forth. There are so many energy
organization that are young people are
actually being advocated or being
championed by their own um countries and
the regional organizations
but then unfortunately in Southeast Asia
is not like that. Um so that is why
that's first our mission and second is
that we want to actually build careers
because I understand there are so many
universities that are still unlike unent
um doing a lot of stuff to support our
young people to be part of the energy
workforce itself. So that is why right
now we actually say it very very short
young uh Y for EC or youth for energy
Southeast Asia it's a home for young
energy or professionals that they want
to actually continue continuity of what
they've already learned because in our
era energy transition has moved unprecedentedly.
unprecedentedly.
It's so different because right now many
technologies are being introduced, many
positions that are previously none in
the sectors are actually just come in
place in our um era. So I think to
bridge that gap uh meeting the young
students that wanted to actually join
energy sectors and for us young energy
professionals that already in the middle
management or offices we can actually
share our insights as well with them.
Last but not least is that regionwise
there are so many things that has been
done but then unfortunately
in Southeast Asia there is no
implementation or whatsoever or
involvement. That is why for us the
first thing to collaborate and amplify
the existing actions rather than
inventing something that is very new
because taking the best practices and
complement it and contextualize it in
our region. I think that's the most
important one um for us. So that's the
three missions that we want to do. Now
after 3 years, turns out what started as
a simple conversation here in Koala
Lumpur 3 years ago with me and my
partner Jetsai Santara who happened at
the time to be the C for all ambassador
for Southeast Asia. um
fo out our concerns and that 5 minutes
talk actually now has grown into more
than 700
um young people young energy
professionals that has been actually
engaged with us we've already worked
alongside with many core team members um
last but not least out of many capacity
building that we did we finally first
organized the first Southeast Asia youth
energy forum just last end that actually
a testament why for EC wanted to bring
closer energy sectors um party which is
now the AMM the ABF the AC's to actually
also have an extended arm that there is
a platform like SCF for us
to show that is actually not only a
barriers of um access to the policy makers
makers
uh but also a platform for us to think
that young people actually have the
potentials. It's just that us not being
have um an engagement with those that
are actually making a decision. Thank
you. Thank you uh Amira for highlighting
that youth advocacy is also the main
focus of your organizations and I think
uh all um organizations in Assan uh
intragovernmental or governmental
organizations also has been starting to
consider youth participations in their
programs so that the bridge were slowly established
established
um after and I'm sure it is also for
your contribution from the simple
conversation s who started all to
building the bridge uh within the just
and inclusive energy transition
especially for youth. Okay. So thank you
very much uh Amamira for your
introduction about the organizations and
how you shape the youth uh in Assean
region. So uh next we have Miss Sinlong
from Yesnet Petronus. So from a youth
perspective also, how is Patronus uh
through initiatives like yesnet
empowering young professionals with the
skills and opportunities to lead this
over um rapidly changing energy future
or maybe you could start to introduce
first? Yes. Uh yes not for introduction
for our participant.
>> Thanks Andura. So I think maybe a quick
introduction because I didn't prepare
slack. Um yesnut stands for youthful
energy transition and sustainability
network. So I think before I answer your
question Indira um I would like to share
with everyone a story that happened just
a few days ago during ABF. So you know
over the AUBF lunch um I had like you
know we were chatting with other
delegates and also like the speakers. So
on the table so they asked me this
question. So um you represent the youth.
So what exactly does the youth do in
this whole energy transition talk? And I
think that really got me rethinking um
why do we start Yasnet right so what is
the core that what are we doing right
and that brings me back like what's the
intention and the purpose of us
establishing Yasnet and I think like
what Amiraas say I think it's really
meaningful because you can see across a
lot of international dialogue or
regional dialogue right um so for
example COP and all that you you can see
a lot of the discussion was actually led
by the decision makers, policy makers or
the industry veterans and all that but
rarely by youth right so I think that
really like that kind of gap matters and
that is where we trying to address the
gap to actually by establishing yesnet
and how is that you can see for me
personally I have been joining different
NGO and climate efforts as well on the
ground so from a grassroot perspective
right and I do notice over the years
that it's always in this whole energy
transition talk it should always coming
from like let's say from the NGO side
like we demand for more that we want
them to do this we want to see the
government to do this we want to see the
companies to do this right so that's
very common and you can see from the
policy maker sides it's like okay
there's a lot of constraints we need to
have more public and private partnership
for example so every parties action
parties have different asks and also the needs
needs
So and that is where I see like me
coming from the corporate we can see it
differently as well right for something
to push for the agenda like this big
right especially to address energy
transition this complex issue that
concerns everyone like regional
international across the borders right
it's not something that can be done
alone and that is where I feel like from
corporates and business you have the
decades of experience in the industry
you see how things done differently,
right? You represent a different kind of
ways of working. How can we try to push
and accelerate some kind of agenda like
energy transition and that is where we
actually try to address and by
establishing yesnet this is where we try
to actually have people that coming from
the business from the corporates right
not just from Petronas but for other big
companies in Malaysia or like other
Asian countries and also like from the
government for example what are the how
about the youth perspective from the
ministers um of the governments in
Malaysia and all that. So we try to
bring in different perspectives and try
to create this network where we can
share with each other. So what do you
think in this topic in this issue? How
do you feel? How do you can see like how
we can contribute and help to solve the
problem together? And this is where I
think the beauty of Yesnet is we pull
together like we gather people from
different background and try to have an
open discussion and see how we can help
each other to accelerate this agenda.
So coming back to your question, so how
does actually patronize in this kind of
initiative like yesnet can help you know
youth to actually accelerate this
agenda? I think that boils into two
parts. So number one is the opportunity
to learn and lead I think um and the
second um I'll cut later. So youth we
are still young right? So like when you
compare to oil and gas energy or like
other industry in the energy transition
they have decades of experience and ways
of working right. So we do not know
everything and energy transition is a
complex systematic issue that doesn't
takes one generation to solve. It takes
cross generational wisdom and
leadership. So I think in this case um
one example that I can give is for
example during the recent energy Asia
conference. So what we have is like a
future energy leaders program. So that
we actually like got invited to attend
the future energy leader programs where
you have past participants like for
example from university students or like
people from like other companies from
Japan or Korea. So that is where we sit
down to learn about what is just energy
transition about not just in theory but
in practice how are other people
actually doing it in other regions in
this world. So that's from there we try
to build the capacity and try to learn
how we can solve better about this and
then the opportunity to lead. So one
example is also like um in energy Asia.
So I think most of us are familiar that
when it comes to energy transition this
kind of topic a lot of them is led by
like I said the policy makers and like
you know the adult adults. So what
actually we were really happy is that we
were also given a chance to actually
host the first and only youthled forum
during energy Asia that happened um this
year early like June. So that is where
we have the panel discussion. We talk
about we have a discussion to sit down
with the corporate representatives right
and the youth to actually let you talk
about how do we see youth can contribute
actively and directly and to create
impact in energy transition. So I think
this kind of opportunity to learn more
and to lead as a youth is actually very
crucial and about the second is about
mentorship. So I think coming from a
corporate I think we must always
remember there's always something that
we can learn there's so much for us to
learn all right from like other like
organization youth organization from
like even the academic indust in
institutions that we partner with as
well but first and foremost is the
mentorship how can youth growth without
strong support or mentorship right so I
think this is the years of experience of
sharing that help us to see better and
help us to see how we can shape the
energy transition journey and narration.
So I hope that answers the question.
>> Thank you uh sin for your uh answers. I
think you also highlights uh the role of
bridging the youth and also the
businesses so that the businesses will
be more aware that youth voice is also
important in shaping a better skill for
the human resources and also its
participations uh within the business
within the energy sector especially in
uh the business area. So as we talking
about uh the programs um the your own
programs uh and how have how you have
been involving in these uh trainings pro
uh workshops uh in your organizations
um maybe starting with uh Dr. Sarasati
what kind of partnerships that could be
happen between the academia industry
government and also the youth itself uh
that are most critical to creating a
future ready lowcarbon workforce in AEAN.
AEAN.
>> Thank you Indra. Thank you so much for
the question. uh but before that you
know sitting around the youths make me
feel very young
and and and it's so nice to see how um
impactful your inputs are. So I think um
we are moving in the right direction.
You can see the youths here with us
today you know to these beautiful ladies
who are talking about how uh their
initiative is changing the whole
landmark of energy transition. Now
addressing that we must understand that
preparing um future ready lowcarbon
workforce is not a task for a single institution
institution
right everyone has to play a role we
call it the trih helix collaboration
this is where you see the government organization
organization
you see the industry And you see the
academia coming together to work
together to assist in this seamless
transition. Right? So how how do you see
that in the academic world? How do you
see the academic industry partnership?
Now let me share with you what we do in
UNIN. Now all the programs that we
develop in university tanaga national we
also called the national energy
university. So all the programs that we
design at uni we appoint an adjun
professor and adjunk professor is a
representative from the industry with a
specific skill or subject matter expert.
So we appoint um an adjunk professor or
we also have a few groups of industry
advisory experts who comes in who gives
in ideas suggestions and inputs on what
the module should be about whether it's
supposed to be following the needs and
skills and requirements of the industry
or not. So this is one of the things
that we do with all the modules that we
develop in unit 10. Now apart from that
on an annual basis what we do we do a
review of our program. During the review
process we also invite our industry
advisory panels and our adjunct
professors to come in to see if we have
actually meet the requirement of our
industry needs. This is where we are
trying to reduce the gap between our
graduates so that they are ready to join
the workforce with regards to the demand
of the energy transition needs in the
industry itself. Right? So this is one
of the things that we actually work on.
Now apart from all this of course we
also have to talk about the academia and
government relationship. Now this is
where the national energy center plays a
huge role. Now the national energy
center initiative was tabled at the
parliament and we take into account all
the national energy related policies
road maps when we design the programs
the research work that we do at the
national energy center. Now this
includes uh the in demand uh energy
research for instance smart grids. So we
work very closely with uh companies and
organizations that looks into smart grid
technology and you know having research
and innovation alone is insufficient.
You need to have the right policies in
place so that this innovation can be
practiced in all these industries. So
this is where government and academia
collaboration plays a very important
role. Understanding the policies by the
government ensures that our research
will be streamlined in accordance to the
industry needs. So this is what we are
trying to do right now. We can see that
this kind of collaboration is happening
everywhere. For instance, if you take
Indonesia, Indonesia is working very
closely with Dutch companies to provide
renewable energy training for their
youth, for their current skill workers
and things like that. If you go to
Taiwan, you see all the universities in
Taiwan are linked with one industry
individually, right? So you see them
working closely with the industry so
that their research and development
meets the demand of the industry needs.
Now when you are doing something that is
in demand by the industry
seamlessly you are getting your students
to do what is in need by the industry
because they're going to be part of the
research work of the training work that
you're going to collaborate with the
industry. So this works hand inhand
right now. Another interesting
collaboration that I have to actually
mention this is with Petronus you know
very good collaboration they have this
trih helix beautiful collaboration. So
Petronas has this program called
Petronus energy transition academ. So
Petronas being an industry collaborates
with Seda. SEDA is our government agency
sustainable energy development authority
right and they work together with UK
energy institute I'm also one of the big
members of the energy institute and I
was there during your uh session uh with
energy institute right and very happy
that you brought it up
okay so they have this really good tryh
helix um collaboration and you can see
how they actually upskill their current
staff uh into related energy transition
programs. Right? So this is actually
very very interesting now.
So we can actually see how the benefit
of this trih helix collaboration works.
And in unit 10 at the national energy um
center, we would definitely welcome
industries to come in ACE to come in to
be part of our hub, our energy hub so
that we can actually work together
aligning our research with policies that
is needed in the government sector that
can be incorporated into the industry.
So that's about it. Thank you.
>> Thank you. uh Dr. Sarasati for
underlining the importance of how unit
approach not only uh industry but also
youth itself to consider what is the
best uh curriculum and also skills they
need to uh be equipped to uh prepare
their future. So the next uh we are
returning to the youth perspectives.
While young innovators across ASEAN has
brilliant ideas and incredible drive
access to financing, uh we believe that
the financing itself is still an issue
that um should be assessed more um for
especially for youth based
organizations. So Amira uh from your
extensive experience uh what mechanism
or partnership uh could have uh could uh
access or uh yeah accessed by youth
across the ASEAN so that their um needs
can be fulfilled and also their skills
could be fulfilled for
>> cool thank you so much I think it's also
very much uh an understanding that
before having a financing having the
right capacities is actually also um
important. So probably just to show you
a bit we recently just soft launched our
um report here beautiful report it's
called youth forjet basically uh the
title that we are taking is youth as
partners in achieving SDG7
this is an Asia Pacific scale so it's
not only in Southeast Asia but it's in
in a bigger um sense in this report we
are actually working with bricksuit
energy agency we work with global shaper
ers we do work alongside. So there are
25 young researchers come together make
this report and we work this with the UN.
UN.
So next month we are going to officially
launch it. Basically it answers your questions
questions
but I would give you a bit of story
about it.
The first thing is that to institutionalize
institutionalize
in order for you to actually have a
financing as an probably we can think of
as a as an investor like either
government or private sector is kind of
like see it investment opportunity right
you need to when when you are thinking
about investment opportunity you might
need to see first the impact of course
you might want to see the monitoring and
whether it's actually kind of like a
continuous cycle and whether you are
actually getting the return of
investment Right? It's also the same
with investing in our young people. And
in order to have that, the first thing
that we must do is try to in
institutionalize the young platforms
because in order for you to give the
money, there should be some some uh sets
of uh rules institutions that are
actually going to carry out the deed.
Second is that you need to build the
capacities. So many young people,
innovators, competitions by competitions
have already we've already tried to
assess. Most of them just end it after
they are being awarded as the winners.
Okay, your ideas is very important. Your
ideas is very good. You are the winner.
But that's it for young innovators. And
on the other side of um spectrum as well
if young people want to advocate
policies they always kind of like okay
basically it's just writing a letter to
policy makers or decision makers that oh
yeah this is what we want but there is
nothing afterwards and that is why um
Southeast Asia youth energy forum where
we are organizing the event last weekend
try to be that platform
We invited 22 young people from 11 uh
Southeast Asian countries including Timorstee.
Timorstee.
They actually think about the uh the
innovations. They come up with what they
had called co- power. It's a crown crown funding
funding
for innovations in rural areas.
You talked before Dr. Saraswat is about
having a triple helix.
For me and hopefully maybe from uh Sin
as well, we want a quadruple helix
because it's important for government
for academia for um business owners
works together. But if you decide
something without us, I think it's also
something that is missing. And that is
why after institutionalizing
you see the resources try to uptake
them. Last but not least then you might
work with the financing.
This I would like to give you an example
in Indonesia there is this called guerillia
guerillia
is an project by the ministry of energy
ministry of education and then private
sectors as well. Basically young
students are actually deployed in a
rural areas to build solar in an
unelectrified areas.
What is interesting for us to advocate
and try to champion and try to be
replicated and scale up in other
Southeast Asian countries is that young
people get the credits because they are
doing this as a means of internships,
right? They get the funding and
mentorship from the private sectors and
then endorsed by ministry of education
and ministry of en energy. So it's not
only that these young people are being
empowered, they are being financed, they
are actually getting the best of
experience, a hands-on experience um as
well. and then that contributions can be
accounted for
countries calculations of
electrification because in Indonesia
it's still below 100%. So I think this
kind of collaborations and financing
opportunities is a win-win
um for us including accelerating the
energy transition. Thank you. Thank you
Amira for uh bridging and also uh
showing the fact that in fact there is
also a need uh from support from the
government to youth and also uh more
opportunities for youth to be funded uh
especially uh when it's focusing on uh
advocacy and also the businesses itself.
So uh getting back to sin um you also
mentioned that mentorship uh has a lot
to do to prepare the young gen the young
generation especially uh when they
wanted to uh pursue their career in
business uh sector especially energy
sector. So how can established energy
professionals and companies uh better
mentor, sponsor and collaborate with
youth innovators to accelerate uh the
decarbonization aspect in the business sector?
>> I think that's a powerful question.
Um so I've been working closely like on
like innovation about you know uh
digital and innovation for some time as
well. So I think what you say like
mentorship and collaboration they are
not just nice to have an energy
transition to come up solution for that
but it's it's actually crucial to
actually move the whole innovation and
solution faster. So if you were to ask
me I think it comes down to two points.
Um the two shift in mindset and uh the
mindset as well as in practice. So
number one the first shift in mindset is
moving from mentorship to cocreation.
So we talk a lot about mentorship and I
must say mentorship is important because
it helps in building the capab capacity
and capability right. So for us for
youth to actually contribute
meaningfully and impactful in this
journey right um mentorship is you
always start with that right to build
their capability so that they know what
to do and all that right um but then um
moving forward like you can't hand guide
them like handhold them forever right
and the energy transition problem like
you don't know when we're gonna solve it
right so it's like maybe like there will
be time that you have to like the next generation
generation
also need to stand up to actually work
on that to come up with is there any
innovative solutions that can combat or
to help in decarbonizing journey right
so in that case I feel like cocreation
is the way to go so that comes into
different forms where you know like how
can we include and include the youth
together to creating and developing the
solutions together so that's what I mean
by co-creation so um drawing from some
Some of my experience before I do feel
like sometimes when we say like let's if
someone the party to say like we're
going to lead on something a solution
right but others is just like oh can you
help me on this and this it doesn't
really work right we need to actually
sit down together and say what's your
view what's your pain point and how can
we actually better solve your need right
so that together the co-creation process
is going to solve it's going to create a
solution that can actually caters to
different needs
Right. So that's number one. And number
second I think it's also important is
the shift in practice.
So when we talk about shift in practice
how is like a lot of this kind of
complex issue right it requires
systematic thinking right so I think the
important is we can't do things in silo.
So we need to create an ecosystems an
ecosystems that is big enough inclusive
enough to have both men and women the
older the younger generations the people
from the academic from the grassroot and
from the business everyone create an
ecosystem so it's kind of like you
create a safe space for the youth as a
testing ground so for them to see like
oh I have an ideas this is a new
generation problem I have a new thinking
and see hey maybe we can do this right
so for example hydroele electricity like
instead of building big big dams right
hey maybe like I'm an engineering
student so I was talking with other
youth and I actually got inspired so
saying like hey instead of building like
big dams but we can also do like deploy
some micro hydro in the river and that
might work and that can reduce the
environmental impact as well. So there
are a lot of ideas right and that is
actually one of the strength of youth
and I think hence the ecosystem it's
important to actually give them a
testing ground to test the ideas and see
if that works right so I think these two
shifts to me um is actually the most
crucial part and that should better help
the youth in creating the solution for decarbonization.
decarbonization.
Thank you.
>> Thank you Sin for your question. So as
we are approaching uh the time itself so
I would like to ask each of you the
final questions. So I'd like each uh I
would like to ask each of you to share
one sentence that you believe is most
powerful action in the next two years to
ensure Asan's energy transitions is not
just green but also inclusive fair and
youthdriven. Maybe sin would like to go first.
first.
>> Okay. Um so for me I think never forget
that youth we carry weight as well the
power of your voice. So don't be afraid
to speak up when you speak up people to
know then can finally see what you think
your view your worth and that is where I
think I should I feel like I should
encourage everyone like the youth to
actually speak up.
>> Okay thank you maybe Amira next. Okay.
Um, more than a sentence I think a short paragraph
paragraph
a poet not because the new Apayak until
2030s has actually taking the first time
team of just and inclusive energy
transitions and I think it's very much
um important as an approach and I see
the new target as well the renewable
energy just to see my cheat sheet
30% in renewable energy in TPS, 45% in
um capa installed capacity and 40%
reductions for the energy efficiencies
see that
as a really really high and ambitious
which is something that we appreciate
but at the same time that's also the
time where policy makers business and
then academy to rethink the approach of
energy transitions to see young people
as an your biggest ally. We are not
going to be here marching if you are
actually doing something right
basically. So we are because the the
most advant disadvantages generations
would be my generations, my kids'
generations, my granddaughter's
generations of the inactions of today.
So see us as partners. See us you're
biggest ally because we want to
contribute as part of the solutions.
>> Thank you Amira. Such a thoughtful
paragraph you said and we can go to Dr.
Sarasati please.
>> Yeah I hear you Amira and I also hear
you Shin right. So I think if I have um
one statement that I would like to share
with everyone here today is I would like
to take up this quote. This is a
Malaysian quote buraiu.
buraiu.
What it means is together we stand,
divided we fall. So the idea here is at
the end of the day unity. Now I'm no
longer going to say tryh helix.
>> I'm going to quote you Amira. It's going
to be quad quadruple >> quadruple
>> quadruple
>> quadruple helix where we're going to
have to work together with the industry
the academia the government
yes the civil society as Amira and sin
whatever that you all are doing very
good work and we have to work together
we have to work together to ensure that
we come up with this unity blueprint
to produce lowcarbon workforce. Thank you.
you.
>> All right. Thank you. I I guess we have
to give a round of applause for our
panelist here and thank you very much
for all of our panelists uh for sharing
their inspiring insights on uh this
panel workforce transformation and youth
participations in Asense just and
inclusive energy transitions. What we've
hear today highlighted the important
role of not only uh the education but
also youth itself and also businesses
and to collaborate together to pursue a
more inclusive way to achieve a just and
inclusive energy transition. And that
brings us to the end of the session. I
think we're quite on time right now. And
thank you everyone for your kind
contribution and also efforts in uh
discussing on this uh topic. So please
you can go back to your seat and thank
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