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This interview explores the multifaceted life of Samuel, highlighting his unconventional adventures, passion for language learning, and a deep-seated philosophy centered on intentionality, connection, and personal growth.
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So I am very thankful to be here today with Samuel, who I actually met in my women's French
speaking practice group. Yes I did say women's. He somehow made his way into that group, but that's
where we met and he has a very interesting life so I thought he would be a fascinating person
to interview today, and I'm certain that you're going to enjoy it. So thank you so much Samuel
for being here. Camille thank you for having me here, I'm very excited. Can you tell me a
bit about yourself? Well Camille, I was born at a very young age, and from there. I just realized
what you said, I was born at a very young age. But in all seriousness, I was born in North Carolina,
uhhuh in Charlotte, the big city, mhm and from there I went to the same school for 13 years,
K through 12, with 80 people. So all 80 of these students, we all grew up together,
so it's like I had 79 other brothers and sisters, that's crazy, for 13 years straight which looking
back pretty special. How many brothers and sisters did you actually have? I have one little sister,
okay and her name is Sarah, and soon she'll be getting married to her fiance. Oh nice. He just
asked back in March. Yeah, very cool. Can you tell me a bit about your upbringing? My father when he
went to college he majored in musical theater, so he loved singing and acting and dancing,
but now he runs his own company. Wow. And he wanted my sister and I to understand that even
though he runs his own company, and he has work that is professional, it's always very important
to know how to speak and present and talk and act. So we all did musical theater for many years
learning how to act, sing, dance, speak in front of people, wow and that ended up being a very
big part of our lives. yeah yeah how do you feel like that's shaped who you are today? Do you feel
confident speaking in front of people, acting, all of those things? I notice a real advantage,
a real strength in being able to stand in front of people and be relaxed and present information,
because even today, I might not be in front of a thousand people, but in business, in life, with
speaking one on one in interviews, yeah when you have one or two people that you need to impress,
that you need to make a connection with, it's always good to first be relaxed, and then let
things just kind of keep moving. Yeah how do you relax before say an interview, a presentation,
meeting new people, do you have any tips, like psychological ways? One of the best ways I think
brings the tension down in any situation, it's got to be comedy. Okay. You got to be able to
make yourself laugh, if we're not laughing, we're crying. Okay. So you got to you got to be able to
laugh it off, and then another thing that my dad always told me to do was when we're speaking or
when we're presenting or selling something or we are in sales, don't keep your hands like
this. Don't keep your hands here. Don't put your hands here, leave them out and leave them open,
because it makes everybody relax, it's hey we're relaxed, this is give me a hug,
we're relaxing over here. Yeah it's true body language says a lot. If I was like Samuel,
like so, it just would feel closed you know. Yeah thank you so much, thanks for being here today.
What a great question, it really makes me think, my favorite food is food For thought by the way.
Exactly no that's good, I like that, relax it's true when you can laugh too, it just lightens
the mood and everyone feels comfortable and then you realize oh this isn't so awkward or as bad
as I thought it was going to be or whatever, yeah. Well in all things, whether it was the
people I met or the things I I got to do growing up, adventure has always been a very big part of
my life. I can't seem to stay still. Okay tell me a little bit about some of those adventures. Well
my parents did an incredible job raising me to be well-mannered, respectful, disciplined but I'm far
from domesticated. Okay uh when I was young, I ran off and I joined a circus, where I performed
in the circus for a couple years. How old were you? You ran off, like did your parents know? I
remember I was introduced to it all uh when I was 18 years old, okay I taught this French girl how
to salsa dance. No way, and she thought that it was kind of funny, yeah I me I did a terrible job,
I have no doubt I did very poorly as a teacher, but we had fun and she said hey why don't you come
with me and I'll show you what I like to do, and and she was a trapeze artist from France. And she
had all these friends who were acrobats and circus performers, amazing, they introduced me and then
I was like oh my gosh I love this. Wow. When I went to college for the first year in Charlotte, I
was sitting there in class typing on the computer taking notes and then I realized wow I'm so bored.
I closed the computer, I got up and I was like I'll see you, and I looked up on my phone circuses
in North Carolina. No way. I drove, I just left, just drove to the circus. Yep and auditioned later
that day and got cast so. Wow and what was your main role in the circus? My favorite thing was
being an aerial acrobat which means that I would climb up into the trapeze or the silk,
anything that would hang from the sky. Wow. And I would uh swing upside down, grab people. Wow
that's wild. Did you also learn how to juggle? We did do a lot of juggling and some handstands
and all kinds of fun things with, wow, with everybody. How long were you a part of the circus,
you said two years? I was a part of the circus for four years, and we I did all kinds of uh crazy
little shows from time to time. But all things must come to an end, so I went to a different
adventure. And what was the different adventure? Well while I was in the circus, from time to time
my family we would go on vacation and where we would go, we would go to the Dominican Republic.
Nice. We love the people, we love the bachata dancing, I love dancing. Okay Camille, do you
like dancing? I'm not a good dancer, but I I have fun with it. Do you do you think you and Calvin
would want to go dancing? Oh maybe. Next episode, I teach them to dance. But we would go down there,
I would dance, and next to the ocean they had all these places where you could rent little boats,
and I would try to take these little boats out and I'd flip them over, flip them over, you know
I wasn't ever very good, but over the course five years, yes I just kept working on it. Every year
that we go down there, I would just keep doing it. And then one day I was over in South Carolina,
and there was a big lake and I was paddling out on the lake and I saw a boat sailing by and I thought
I'm going to talk to them. I paddle over to these guys and I say hey. They look at me and I was like
hey I love sailing, I want to be on that boat. I like sailing, I want to come sail with you guys,
you know I should be on that boat, cuz you know, I can help you guys. Their jaw dropped. Yeah
that's not so common. And then this one guy on the boat he says, what are you doing next week? I go
nothing. It was my birthday but yeah and he says, why don't you buy a ticket to Vermont and we'll go
sail up there. What?! Okay, I said to him, so I pulled over, I got out my phone I said hey dad,
I know what I'm going to do for my birthday. Hey I'm gonna buy a ticket to Vermont,
I'll explain later. Buy the plane ticket, I was going to fly out, I got Covid, couldn't go. No.
The guy felt so bad he's like why Samuel, I feel so terrible. I'll make it up, do you like golf,
do you.And I was like it's all right, no it's okay don't worry. I feel I just feel bad. On November
12th, uh of this past year, I get a phone call from that guy at 9:00 at night. I pick up the
phone say hello. He goes hey Samuel, it's me the guy from the boat, hey we had never met before,
we've only ever texted or called in person. He says hey I was just thinking, we should buy a
boat together. So I said like a like a like a like a real boat? He's like yeah there's like this 25ft
boat I think we should just buy it and just sail it together all the time, and um wow. I said okay.
So the first day that we ever met each other was the day that we go to see this boat that
uh we bought, and we went and sailed it. And he he texted me this morning he said do you
want to sail? I said I can't, I'm with Camille. Oh my gosh. Can't sail when Camille needs you,
rule number one. Very important rule, thank you, thank you. Very important. So this guy's become
your friend now, you guys are friends, you go sailing, yeah wow. Maybe I want to go sailing.
I would be down to try sailing for sure. We'd love to have you guys. oh really? Yeah fantastic. That
would be amazing. Thank you. You like the water? Can you swim? Yes yes all my kids can swim, even
my three-year-old learned this year. Yeah they're all great, they love the water. Did you teach them
to swim? Actually kind of, but they kind of learn from having a pool, so I just be like
move your arms, move your arms and they just kind of self taught. Can they do the strokes by name?
um not by name, but my 5-year-old and 8-year-old are fantastic. They can swim underwater they can
just do so many cool tricks in the water, dives. They dive through inner tubes if we hold them up,
they're amazing. It's like Sea World. Yeah kind of. They are like little Shamus. And they get in
that pool every single day, they love it. That would be good. What lake do you sail on? uh
Keowee, Lake Keowee is, have you seen it though? Not recently. Okay you got to come with me though.
Okay you all you guys really good. Okay Lake Keowee is phenomenal. It is a a huge freshwater
lake. It is so clear you can just see, you can see forever down there, and what makes it so unique,
it's it's an incredible fishing spot. I'm not much of a fisherman. I don't really do that sort of
thing, but it's right next to the Duke Energy power plant. I don't know if I told you about
this. They let the water flush over the reactors to cool them down, okay and that water then heats
up from having to cool down all those reactors, so in the winter, in the dead of winter the lake is
kept 5° warmer which allows the fish to keep spawning. That's genius. And now these fish
are growing, and uh it's an incredible thriving fishing location. Amazing. I have a spear mhm and
I swim down there, mhm and if I see a fish that I'd like to eat, wow you stab it? You can actually
get it? Usually they get away. okay. So your fishing record is? I'm very hungry all the time.
Okay but um yeah you swim there, kayak there, sail there, all of the above and they have the little
uh little islands and you're welcome on them, wow jump on in there. Amazing very cool, so you have
been a part of the circus, you learned how to sail, what else have you done? Okay so recently
and this one's kind of crazy. When I was 16 years old, my dad and I, we went to a Renaissance
Festival. Do you know these things? Yeah. I love them. When my mom and dad got married, their
first job was to work at a Renaissance Festival in North Carolina. I think that's that's wonderful.
Wow so they were working at this Renaissance Festival, so we go to The Renaissance Festival,
there are people there dressed up, fun merriment, there was was this group of people who had made
these metal swords, and they were displaying them and you could buy them. We went, we took
a look at them. They were selling them for like $500, what, like it was uncanny amount of money,
and I you know they look nice, my dad said Samuel, look they made that isn't that pretty nice. I
said no it's not impressive, I could I could do that. Here we go. Arrogant and he says you really
think you could do that? Yeah so he's I don't know about that. What I ended up doing was I went home
I looked up everything there was to know about Metallurgy and smithing and all these things,
I go to Lowe's and I buy these pieces of equipment and tools and everything to make a sword,
and so I start getting to work making them. And my good buddy at the time, this is actually a kind of
a sweet story. My good buddy at the time he says oh man that's so cool, would you make me one? I
said I'll make you one, I promise. In the middle of making it uh, it was molten, it was molten hot
like where the sparks are flying, like the Taylor Swift song, Oh okay, Sparks Fly, great song. I
didn't quench it in the water, mhm and laid it up against something I was working on something else,
and it fell on me and it burned down my shoulder. Oh no do you have a scar? oh yeah oh it's gnarly.
Intense. But oh that's that's why I love camping, it's intense. But uh scar burns down my arm and
then OSHA-mom shuts me down. OSHA mom what do you mean your mom? Osha Osha the work place
safety company. No way wait they didn't actually. No but my mother as the office. Got it, got it got
it. workplace safety, no she comes in with a hard hat, shut it all down. So it's over.
uh recently that friend of mine, yeah, he was getting married and he had told his girl his
girlfriend now wife at the time, when they were engaged he said you know Samuel one of
my groomsmen, I was one of the groomsmen, he said he was actually going to make me a sword when I
was 16, how how funny is that little story. uh she says he's got to do it, he's got to finish it and
if he finishes it, that will be what we cut the cake in our wedding with. No way. So they told me,
they said Samuel you have to finish what you, and I looked through the attic for about an hour and
I found the old piece of that metal, cleaned it off, fired up the forge and as an adult I can
work on it without Osha, Osha mom. So? And I went back and I finished it, scraped the whole thing,
polished it put a little hilt on it, everything that I was working on and uh I drove it down to
Alabama, wow where their wedding was. We put it across the table, I have a photo, I can
show you. We put it across the table and the two of them after they got married, they cut their
cake with it. Amazing. And that was their wedding gift. Have you ever made any more since? I have,
I made a number of them. Really, so kind of like stirred that creator spirit up in you again, and
making swords. Making swords, wow, memories very cool. So you also speak a number of languages. I
like to think so. Which I think is amazing because as an American, we don't really learn languages,
I mean we're exceptions to the case, but typically I feel like English is it, maybe a tiny bit of
Spanish. But why did you start learning languages? And what was the first language that you learned?
Each language that I learned was always a surprise to me because I never thought that I would ever
learn a language. I remember taking language class in high school thinking this, I'm never doing this
again, yeah, but then I remember around the time I was 17 years old and God put it on my heart uh to
just start loving this family who was in my city. They were Japanese and their dad, it was a mom
and two younger daughters and their father. Their father went on a business trip to Japan and while
he was there there was an accident and he died. And he left the family behind, and so I started to
learn Japanese so that I could go over to their house and if they needed help with groceries,
taking their kids to school, or if they wanted to go do something fun, or yeah that's amazing.
I would do that. Did they speak English? They have their whole, all their friends and community was
Japanese, and so they brought me into their little Japanese community family and there I was for four
years, wow, learning Japanese with them, and being a part of it. So did you study much on your own or
were you just learning from speaking with them? I, every Monday night, there was a pastor I remember
this, there was a pastor at a Baptist Church, he was from Japan and he was in his, he was in his
70s. He had come over to Charlotte, North Carolina and um he heard about what I was trying to do and
he told me every Monday night if you come here, every Monday night I will teach you how to speak
Japanese, and all we had was a Japanese Bible. Wow so I didn't exactly learn words for like,
beginner vocabulary, my vocabulary was odd. Everyone said to my father, they say your son,
he speaks like he's a psalmist or like a poet, or something. I remember, they had a thing,
this going to it's going to crack me up, they had a question where everyone had to go around and
they had to describe, it was it you know a bunch of younger people, they to describe their first
teacher. Oh and they said my teacher was kind. Oh my teacher was funny. They said oh that's great,
in Japanese of course, and then they said Samuel what about you? I said hm my teacher
was deeply merciful and abounding in grace. Oh my goodness. They they thought that was so
funny cuz that's the kind of words I learned, you know. You didn't learn like friendly, you learned
redeemed. Wow yeah biblical words. Deep words so interesting. Then when I was 19, God told me,
he said start learning Spanish, start learning French. Wow and he said I'll open up a door
for both. And then three years later I was in the Dominican Republic and I ran into this one person,
and they were Hispanic and God's like, just just tell him about me, so I did, and I just said hey
here's God and this and he's after you, and he's intentional with you, and he's gracious and kind,
he's like, he's a good friend, he's really funny and Jesus Christ is the least religious person
that I know, but he's a Savior and he's perfect, and he wants to be daily in relationship with you,
um and you can be because of what he's done, and it just kind of like, I don't know if that
clicked with them or anything, but it was all the Spanish that I had, wow I piled it on all at once,
and then I remember I left the Dominican 3 days later, and then I got a call on the phone from
that person, and they had called me, and they were with one of their family members and they wanted
to be a Christian and give their life to Jesus those three days later. Wow that's amazing. It
was it was a beautiful story, they asked me if I would pray over everybody on the phone call.
Wow so you know the song Reckless Love? Yeah by Corey Asbury, um I looked up the lyrics,
Reckless love in Spanish. I didn't know what to say, so I started reading it and I was like
oh amor sin condicion, thank you Samuel. It was kind of funny cuz I didn't know what to say,
so that was kind of funny. Wow. Moved to France when I was n uh not, 21, 3 years later. Okay
and uh how did you learn French? I learned French and Spanish the exact same ways. I just
took note cards and I wrote things down, wow and I just carried them around with me all day,
or I'd go on YouTube and you know Disney movies you know everyone kind of knows those songs,
you listen to those in that language, and you just, one of the big things is you just find
things that you want to talk about. That's good mhm I wanted to talk about CrossFit coaching.
I was a CrossFit coach. I liked that. I liked some of their idioms, I liked their expressions,
yeah um learning Italian now I like one of the expressions that they have,
it's kind of like the English version of, you can't have your cake and eat it too. mhm it's
a you can't have a full bottle of wine and a drunk wife and like, yes that's in French too,
I'm pretty sure that one's in French too. That's interesting, yeah I thought that was so,
I just thought that was such a funny way of saying that. um wow, so you're currently learning
Italian? Italian is what I feel like I should be learning next, I don't know why, but whenever God
puts it on my heart to learn a language, somebody shows up who needs something in that language and
I'm glad that I started. Wow what else do you feel like language learning has done personally
for your life? Learning language has impacted me personally in a lot of different ways because I
love making connections. I love communicating. I love being relationally driven with people,
social media in general. It's well I don't know what's authentic you know, we love tested things,
but we hate the test. I like being able to put in some work to show somebody hey, before I met you,
I was intentional about hopefully learning a way to communicate with you, because I want you to
know, I want to open the door to make a connection with you, and the best way I can show you that is
by me, you know a white American guy, who listen, I don't have to learn anything else else in the
entire world if I don't want to, but I think from where I'm coming from, if I show you, people
they're, sometimes their jaw just drops when I just start speaking to them. I said where are you
from, Japan, oh I'm from Honduras I just yeah, why why do you do that? Because I want to talk to you,
because I hoped one day I would meet someone who spoke your language, and that I could speak with
you. I love the idea of I was thinking about you before I knew you, so that I could connect with
you, and language language does that, it's awesome and it shows people that you you care about them,
or that you're intentional and that communication communication is huge, it's just such a big thing,
yeah and really communicating you know. I don't want to just send you a text hey I hope you're all
right. I I don't know, I want to call you, I want to be there, I want to say do you need anything?
Can I come over? Can I bring you dinner? Can I, so I don't know anything there are all kinds of
ways to be in intentional. That's good and you've mentioned a few countries that you've lived in
and traveled to, do you have a particular country that you feel especially connected with? There are
so many great places to travel and to go, and um you know at the end of the day, it's never
really the place, it's the people. I've been to a lot of places, but if the people aren't there,
it's not the same. yeah um you know I was telling somebody just last night, home really isn't a
place, it's a it's it's a people, and it can be it can be anywhere, and I think we have a unique way
of making homes. I think some of the best growth in my life was during on some of those uh trips
to the Dominican Republic or to France, I think my family and I, we have great stories and memories
from visiting Iceland, from visiting Norway, from visiting uh England, mhm you know trips to Canada,
Nova Scotia, little spots around there. Wow. It's all it's all been fun, and it's all been eye
opening for all the reasons that travel can be and it is, but when I travel, I really want to make
sure that I I can get involved and really meet people. When I lived in France, I didn't go to all
the tourist spots. I went and I uh tried to see if I could get a part-time job at a restaurant,
like cleaning up, cleaning up their tables and dishes, wow because that's what people that's
what they that's what you do, yeah it's just like people in New York are like, do you go to
a Statue of Liberty every day? No I don't do that, I go to I go to work or I go sit over here or we
go to the gym. Yeah. So I like I like getting to live like everybody, I don't want to tourist all
over. I I want to live like them and be a part of what they have going. That's a really good point
you make. and you've spoken a little a little bit about work and how you have trouble sitting still,
what is your job? How do you make money? My job, a little work philosophy was a lot of people said,
what do you want to do? Yeah. That's a lot of pressure, because I I didn't know, but I could
tell you this, I could tell you how I wanted to live, and how you want to live is a big question.
You can be, you can use your imagination, you can use creativity, you get to let your mind run wild,
and you dream bigger. What you want to do always, like oh I hope you're happy in what you do, that's
kind of a bummer. How how do you want to live? Here's how I wanted to live. I wanted to live in
a way that my job that I chose, would essentially be the vehicle that gets me there, and I wanted it
to be something where I could use languages, mhm relational sales, connections, mhm I wanted to be
able to control my time, and my schedule, because I believe that one day I'm going to have a wife
and children and they'll be the most important things in my life. So I want to be able to steward
my time, to spend the most of it with them. um and the job that I'm in now, which is outside sales,
I travel for sales, travel on sales calls, going to try to join the international branch
coming up. Wow I get to do that,yeah it allows me to live the kind of lifestyle
that I believe I'm called to live, and then it also allows me to make the money where everything
I want to do for other people, or I could give it for free. wow I became an English teacher,
ESL and I never wanted to charge any of my students for the classes. Wow. To make the money
to where everything that I want to give whether it's in missions work, service, taking care of
things, donations, I can give all of it, I can give it all for free. My first language teacher,
he was a Japanese, the pastor I asked him I hey do you ever want me to get pay for these lessons? He
says no freely I freely learned Japanese, growing up in Japan, freely receive freely give. Wow, my
English, I learned it for free just being born in America, and so if you all need to learn English,
whoever they are I became an English teacher so that and I got this job, so that everything I can
give, I give for free. I tell them, wow everything that I can give is yours. Wow. Because that's,
I mean that's kind of how God treats me. That's amazing. You can take away the job, you can take
away my car, you can take all, I'm still the richest man in the world because of what God has
done for me. wow, so everything that I can give is theirs. wow What do you most appreciate about life
here in the USA? Number one, the men that I've been able able to model after and look up to here
down in the Carolinas and Tennessee, the Southeast region, which is where I've spent all my life,
they believe in a hard work ethic, that hard work pays off, and you know you're not given things in
life, you earn those things. My dad I remember, uh when I was born they didn't even know if I
would be able to be fed. wow Because he risked everything to try to make something with his own
two hands, and I think America is still maybe the best place on earth to be able to build something,
and create something. Yeah that's that's whose image we made in, create something, build
something, make something, not just mundanely work like there is no goal, but to have goals, to push
ourselves to strive yeah and to reach, and I know that that can be found across the world, mhm but
where I've seen it modeled in America has been awesome, and that passion and that drive I think
is really unique to the men and the businesses and the things that I've seen here in America,
and then I also love just the ability that we have of being down here where Christianity and
Jesus and the Bible is known by most people, and it's known by many and there's a certain, there's
a hospitality, there's a culture to to it um which I really appreciated growing up in a big way,
I really did, where being able to trust so many adults in my city, uh because we all came from
a homogeneous place. It wasn't that we were all the same we were all from different parts of the,
some of us different parts of the world, but we all agreed on the same morals and the same
values and that I mean that has to be said about every civilization if it's going to thrive, the
two the two words that come off. What would you say uh, I don't like this about America, what's
like something maybe challenging or hard about living here? Camille, a challenge for America,
which is going to prove to be a challenge for every country where people live, just not because
we're Americans or because French are French or because Spanish are Spanish, but because we're
people, we're humans, we're flawed, but America uniquely without struggle, without problems, where
there is abundance that isn't received humbly and graciously, complacency sets in, apathy sets in,
and when there are no challenges, there are no goals, there is no striving, uh we we like
problems and so we just make our own. When things are too easy, and men are not pushing each other
or themselves, complacency sets in and discourse soon follows. My fear and my, what breaks my heart
for America as a country is to see maybe for the first time in its history on a on a wide scale a
generation of men and women divided in passion and pursuit, and the goal seems to be discourse
not unity behind a common goal, and when that happens in factions and discourse and division
uh Abe Lincoln said at best, that kind of house doesn't stand, but I my my desire what I wake up
and I want to see and the change that I hope to be just by who I am and how I live is, men would once
again be passionate, servant leaders, they would be gentle men, they would be meek, yet courageous
and um they would serve women, and women wouldn't have to fight for a role and identity and have to
argue for a place in the story, but yeah because of the way that men would treat them, they would
know inherently exactly where their role is. Men got to step up, cuz when I mean, sometimes
when boys are some boys are 40 years old, when they play games with the responsibilities and
the privileges of men without assuming any of the responsibility, people get hurt, yeah families get
hurt, and there are a lot of men out there that are tired picking up after little boys, um but
we don't exactly cultivate a culture that teaches boys to grow out of adolescence. In fact we made
up a word called adolescence, which doesn't exist, you're either a boy and you get none of
the privileges of men, yeah or you assume those responsibilities and ascertain the privileges
because you step into the role of being a man, but that means when it goes wrong it's all on you.
yeah so you got to step up, taking responsibility. yeah what are currently your biggest passions,
things that bring you the most joy in your life? Some of my biggest passions right now,
uh for the past nine years I've been preparing myself to, I'd love to be married, uh to receive
uh the blessing of getting to be married, to serve a wife, have her in my life so preparing for her,
saving for her, making decisions that now that I hope she'll get to reap the, reap the crop of,
um that is definitely a passion of mine. Right now there have been people placed in
my life that I get to serve, I get to speak into their life, I get to be with, I get to help out
and you know you try, that's thing with God, you try to bless somebody, you try to help, you just
get blessed back two times as much. My heart has been so changed and the service and the just being
knit so closely together with these people uh in my life, uh I'll be forever changed and they
have left a hand print upon my heart. uh my family actually calls me new Samuel, no way because I'm
just I'm more gracious and gentle and uh not as angry all the time, and uh I I I love what God's
doing, I just love what he's doing, but men being men, boys initiated into masculinity uh assuming
responsibility, being disciplined, uh Integrity, these are things that you know I'll lose sleep
over it, and you need accountability for it and um it's getting on that phone in front of a bunch of
people and then getting ready to be like oh geez, about to be made, I'm about to be I'm about to be
roasted, but it's it's going to make me grow up, so that's what it's about. wow I love it,
but in you know on a lighter note, sailing's been fun, I like getting on a boat cuz there's no one
out there jeez. oh good, well we have talked about a lot in this interview, everything from sailing,
to circuses, to not going to university, to faith and.. I did finish college by the way, oh you did?
I did congrats, yeah great job, great job so you went back to University? I I got to I got to do
both. I did do both, but I just left the class. oh just left the class that day okay okay gotcha.
So what did you end up graduating with like? Communications I oh yeah good, got out of college,
good okay so he did graduate. I did go to school. yes but I mean yeah. Yeah so I hope that you guys
enjoyed watching this interview, I sure had a good time, and I am so thankful that you were
here. Thank you so much Camille, it's been a really excellent time, thank you everyone.
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