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where does stay Relentless come from uh

the Relentless part that comes from my

father 100% where he definitely

ingrained in my head being relentless I

feel like without saying stay Relentless

to me just sort of by his actions

throughout life um and I believe that as

I have gotten older as I've played

Sports my my entire life and obviously

not now but from 11 years old all the

way until 18 years old playing sports

I discovered the whole like non-stop

continuously grinding and the more work

you put in the more you get out and I

feel like that sort of defined who I am

and I feel that that's something that

I've always aspired to be is to be the

hardest worker in the room and to do

that you need to be relentless I mean

like you look at the dictionary

definition I'm sort of explaining it and

it really stuck with me and I was like I

feel like this is this is something that

I embody and also can sort of motivate

others to become hopefully what's your

dad got to do with that my dad so my dad

he's a bluecollar guy he is his name's

John so Jon is a bluecollar man he has

worked many jobs he's cut wood in the

winter and made me load it next to him

and stuff so he has always had a lot on

his plate and just never really

complained or anything and just always

did it did it did it get it done get it

get it done and never had an excuse

either and I was like sort of growing up

around him was very much he believed

that that's how I should be as well so

one by showing me and two by always like

telling me like expect if there's

something that needs to get done you

don't wait you do it now if you are

trying to be great at something you go

practice you get better and you will be

great like it was very like tough love

and stuff but he always was he had a

million he had five rental properties uh

all at once that he was a landlord too

he fixed everything in the house rebuilt

the entire house on top of a normal 9

to5 that he wakes up at like 4 in the

morning driving an hour to the city

doing work so it's like witnessing that

firsthand it was almost like I grew up

with no excuse to be made so I feel like

that really ingrained in my head from a

young age just being relentless and like

that's just who I am and it's like I

can't not be that way it took a while

for me my sport growing up was cricket

which is much more gentlemanly you play

cricket yeah that was my game for a

decade uh but it's also not only

gentlemanly but gentle as well uh it's

very much an art form it's almost

exclusively about skill uh snc for it is

primarily just for injury prevention uh

so the line of the hard work what you

put in is what you get out that line

wasn't really made clear to me until I

got into the world of business and

University uh even at school I I don't

know I just didn't I kind of wish that I

did but I didn't draw the line

between hard work equals good

performance I'm aware that that's a very basic

basic

realization it didn't come to me until I

was much older but what does being an 11

to 18 19 year old lacrosse I play

lacrosse yep yeah

uh what does that philosophy when you're

still a child feel like you know it was

it was very it very difficult to like

comprehend as a kid looking back it all

makes sense and I'm like I've have no on

my relationship with my dad my

relationship with coaches and sports but

playing lacrosse I was fortunately very

good at it right away and I feel like

whenever I was good at something

definitely my family was like we got to

we got to push him the most we possibly

can and specifically my mom pushed me a

lot but like my dad definitely pushed me

a lot it was like you see those dads on

like uh documentary shows about like a

football player sport classic Sports dad

that's just like my son's the best he's

going be the greatest he's going to work

harder than everybody and it was very

much that which but I did enjoy I loved

lacrosse so I didn't see it as a problem

so it was sort of like he's inducing

that that sort of Relentless vibe to my

life and like practice and then my love

for the sport also coming together it

worked very well from a young age so

like I saw no problem with it my mom saw

no problem with it the drive and the

passion of working together like just it

it met well and the Synergy was there of

of his ideation and and my love for the

sport and then as time went on and I got older

older

you know I I discovered the gym I really

fell in love with bodybuilding I saw I

watched people like Christian Guzman on

on YouTube and OG YouTube in the fitness

world and I was like you know I love

lacrosse I want to play I want to play

pro right now or in the future I want to

play pro and I have the aspirations to

be the best in the country but part of

me like my my my inner soul isn't being

fulfilled and as you get older I feel

like you discover that more and more and

as I approach 15 16 17 I realized like

like maybe

lacrosse isn't going to be my end goal

maybe there's something more for me like

Fitness or doing YouTube like I really

did have that desire from a young age

let me let me add this I made YouTube

videos since I was 12 you look up

Spartan strings online right now and I

am on the internet I'm like hi I'm Jesse

James I'm like lit little boy on the

internet but I had I had aspirations

outside of Lacrosse that just kept

getting bigger and bigger and the

problem was that my dad his aspiration

was to push me in Lacrosse and push me

to my absolute limits waking up early

for workouts chugging Mass Gainer shakes

you got to gain weight you got to get

bigger you got to be stronger than

everybody else out there in the Rain the

snow the hail throwing the ball to me

and where was home for you home was New

Jersey right okay and so we're in the

we're in The Boondocks in the freaking

Woods he's tossing the ball it's pouring

it's snowing doesn't matter what the

weather is and we're getting the Reps in

because like I do have this love so I

don't see it as too much of a problem

but then there's just a little bit too

much force from him to do it where it

almost kind of pushed that love away

from the sport and I was like I just

want to I just want to bodybuild I want

to lift I want to do these things and

you know it it developed into what it is

today so I'm like super grateful of

every aspect of where my life went but

it kind of we had our struggles and

stuff of a relationship because of the

the love of the sport dying and his push

becoming more so it was like a a p feels

you it's almost like being in a

relationship with someone and they're

pulling away and you're and honestly

even coaches started feeling me pull

away and then I got the pressure from

them too so it was like this very odd

thing to grow up with when I was 15

years old I committed to Lehi University

which is like a very prestigious

academic uh University and I committed

when I was 15 like I they were like you

were you were going to be on a 90%

scholarship in four years from now so

I'm like 15 years old I'm going on

College visits I went to Loyola Ruckers

uh I was looking at Virginia I was

looking at Lehi obviously I went to

Udell I like I'm like pitching myself to

these coaches as a 15-year-old my mom's

driving me there like this is so cool

and I'm like this is awesome but like

also I'm negotiating with a 45-year-old

coach at 15 it's a very odd are you

quite mature I feel like I had to be

because like I I literally would be

going into business meetings one-on-one

with a coach in a button up at 15 years

old basically saying like

trying to hold it together I'm trying to

understand I'm like what the hell is

going on but I'm trying to pitch myself

to this coach of why I should be on his

team in four years from now they got rid

of that rule like NCA came in and was

like this is ridiculous you can't Scout

you can't Scout children literally it's

like too it's just too far now they have

to wait till their their SE uh September

of their junior year to even talk to

them what age is that 17 right so a good

feel there's a big difference between 15

oh dud yeah so like that was a very

interesting aspect of my life where it

definitely Looking Back Now helps me

drastically in business meetings now

like I have no discomfort in business

for best part of a decade literally so

it's I'm only 24 so like for that's nine

years I I'm pitching myself to companies

saying oh why why should you give me a

higher scholarship than the next than

the next place and so I landed a a

scholarship at 15 for let's say about

$200,000 is um for four-year period like

it's a verbal commitment you're not

actually signed you can leave but like

you're shunned if you leave like why

would you leave this opportunity

especially given that you're getting

education essentially for free literally

L and like my parents you know they're

middle class middle uper upper class by

now and this was something like you're

either going to community or you're

going to get a scholarship which nothing

wrong with Community College but like

they wanted me to go play sports so they

were like kind of like dangling in front

of me like you need to go do this and I

thought that was the best path for me

and obviously things changed as I'm sure

we'll get into but things were very

interesting from like 15 to 17 18 had to

I feel like I grew up 10 years in those

two years and obviously it led me here

but very unique what is negotiating I

think a lot of people even those that

aren't still 15 can uh resonate with

this sort of having multiple desires at

once so I have one thing which I may be

very good at and the world gives me

recognition for or perhaps I have a job

title or maybe that provides for me or

my family in one way or another and and

then I've got this other thing that's

kind of my secret passion I almost feel

bit a little bit ashamed about weirdly

because it's not the main thing and I've

committed so much time to it so I've got

sunk cost fallacy into the old thing uh

what have you learned

about balancing those two and the sort

of split brain existence that you have

there I I discovered a lot once I

actually got to college you know through

those years from 15 to 18 it was like

growing up quick and then by the time I

was 18 it was very much in your face

this is reality now and now I instead of

this idea of I want to go do this thing

but I'm but I'm contracted by a lacrosse

team to go perform that didn't exist

beforehand but now it's in place I am at

practice I am at I'm in front of the

coach he's telling me that I need to do

these things I'm in front of a tutor

because I'm failing out of a class that

I can't handle and with all that on my

plate which many people can relate to

there everyone's busy everyone's

everyone's schedule's hard everyone's

trying their best but maybe not

succeeding yet you know they want to be

be there and then you have this love for

something else like bodybuilding like

content and I'm in this situation and

I'm I'm young and I'm figuring out that

it is only on me to make these decisions

and as much as my I've listen I'm very

good at listening to what I I'm very

good at being told what to do and

listening and doing it great and that

has gotten me places but also hurt my

own personal like Soul at the same time

because if I don't have that desire to

go do it I could still do it I'll do it

great and I'll do a fantastic job yeah I

had this

uh uh this Insight around did you ever

hear me talk about the region beta

Paradox so it's where you feel sort of

comfortably numb and you're stuck in

this weird um sort of inter quartile

range where things aren't so bad that

they're terrible but they're not

sufficiently good that you're actually

living uh an amazing life and I had this

so this this thing went kind of viral

after I told Rogan about it and I came

up with this idea called the reverse

region beta Paradox being in an

aggressively terrible working Cadence or

environment but having such a tolerance

for discomfort that you can endure it

for a lifetime lower resilience less

stubborn people would snap and have to

find a way to change but not you you're

the David goggin of working hard who's

going to carry the workload you are

forever dude I you're like speaking my

language right now for so long my you

know my dad and and coaches and stuff

and I I love my dad I don't want people

to think otherwise we have a great

relationship now but there was

definitely Rock Rocky times uh with with

him and my and being on the lacrosse

team where I was so good at just

freaking being uncomfortable I was like

this is my life I've accepted this even

if I'm not so happy even if I don't want

to do it y y I honestly just like and

this might shock a lot of people I

genuinely thought I was just a depressed

person like for years I was like I'm

just depressed like I don't think I'm

ever going to escape this and that's

just I I have anxiety and depression

that's me

but then when I was about 18 I realized

that I am the only one like like let's

say it's David goggin I'm the only one

that can car the damn boat okay and that

boat is going to crush me if I don't

decide to do something with it so I I

remember I I'll never forget I remember

calling my mom and I was like mom and

she's very like opposite of my dad where

my dad's like tough love she's very like

soft nurturing love and I was like I I

can't handle this I'm making the

decision I'm quitting I know this going

to this is going to shock the entire

family it's going to shock the coaches

I'm going to have to do a bunch of stuff

I paperwork find a new College we just

got here like a month and a half ago at

Lehigh and I'm like how long did you

last I did once full semester but it was

like we got in on like mid August and by

October I was like this is the worst

feeling I've ever felt in my life I have

to be done or this is going to end badly

in like a year and I consciously picked

up that [ __ ] boat and was like I'm

out and it was a very empowering and

like it was a very strong Spiritual

Awakening of inner peace of making this

decision for yourself so for anyone

that's like listening and and and trying

to understand in their scenario you're

the only one that can pull yourself out

and like save yourself like truly there

might be people that can help you you

can lean on you can you know you can

count on them always you know talking

you off the ledge or whatever it might

be helping you but at the end of the day

there's one person that can truly make a

decision and do things for you and it's

yourself and you have no choice but to

make those decisions as uncomfortable as

they are and scary they as they are you

have you like you have to do these

things and make those decisions that are

tough let's just Linger on that for a

second so it's got me thinking about the

fact that

um I'm a big proponent of encouraging

people to have social support I think in

a world that's fragmented and atomized

and everyone's a Droid bleep bleeping

their way through Tik Tok spending a lot

of time in having a strong Social Circle

is is a really good thing and you lean

on friends they help you with lots of

stuff but there's a a particular

category of decision or maybe a number

of categories of decisions that your

friends simply can't help you with

they're not going to help you leave a

relationship or leave a job or move

house or change country they'll once

you've made the hard decision as in the

pivot in Direction they can sort of help

you speed up or help you slow down they

can bring you into land if you man I'm

going to have the conversation with my

boyfriend or girlfriend and I really

don't want to so on and so forth they

can help with that bit but the actual

what am I going to do if it's a hard

left or right turn there is nowhere else

to hide I mean you can have a

conversation with them and you can talk

it out but there's nobody else that's

going to come and leave the job or the

relationship or the flat or the country

or tell your parents that you do or

don't want to do that thing that they do

or don't want you to do mhm it's it's so

important I've learned this in the past

like I mean decade for sure but the past

few months I have really thought to

myself about not having fear because I

think got Fearless tat I have a Fearless

T I have a Fearless tattoo right here um

I I have many words on my body that I

try to just live by so I like Relentless

Fearless empathy which always trying to

work on being more empathetic caring as

much as possible I think surrounding

people your surrounding core can also

support those meaningful things to

yourself but being

Fearless is not just going and doing

something oh I'm gonna jump off a cliff

because I'm scared of it it's doing the

things that like quitting your job that

because you you're you're so passionate

in this other thing and you're like I'm

going to make this happen I think being

so Fearless in my decision of of leaving

a scholarship it was something that I

didn't even realize I was doing but I

think it's the where where I make

mistakes in life and have to learn the

most which is always good to learn from

your mistakes but where I make the most

mistakes is when I'm in fear when I have

fear and I and it Alters my decision or

like puts these glasses on my face that

I that I I don't even know they're on

and I'm doing things and I'm I'm I'm I'm

acting a certain way and I'm like wow I

I messed up pretty bad here I made this

decision was so stupid because I was

afraid of XYZ well you're compensating

to not do the one thing that you know

you probably should do but are terrified

of doing yeah you've got this large

important elephant that you need to Slit

the throat of and you're going to run

around this entire jungle as opposed to

just facing that one elephant uh homoi

says I think it's Leila actually uh that

says fear is an inch deep and a mile

wide so when you look at it it looks

like a huge ocean that's going to cause

you to drown but when you step in it you

realize it's just it's really shallow

and you're going to survive and I think

that's almost it's really important to

do things daily you know have daily

habits of getting in the gym doing

things that are very difficult maybe

maybe you join a run club like like we

talked in our our panel join a run a new

run Club start CrossFit or sound up for

a marathon or like I said getting an ice

bath is a great example it's like

literally one of the reasons I do it

like every day you look at that thing

and you're like I hate you this is going

to hurt I'm kind of afraid to get in

right now but doing those little things

that you can accomplish and get over

fear for add up and then it's like it's

like building habit and building blocks

so that way when you have these really

hard things of like hey that

relationship's not working this job

isn't working you at least know the the

habitual side of it yeah well you've got

a basis where you're not super fragile

and if somebody sort of hits you a

little bit you're not going to shatter

into a thousand pieces that being said

I'm very good at the discomfort train

breath work y ice bath thing um but for

me I'm a perennial people pleaser I hate

making other people feel uncomfortable

so I'm a pretty good example for someone

that stuff actually the hardness comes

easy in the Physical Realm in the

mindfulness realm in all all the rest of

it but when it comes to the social realm

that never really translated over that

much so one of the things that at least

I've learned over the last probably only

the last year uh that is a good daily

habit or a regular habit to think about

leaning into what you're talking about

is basically taking the stairs you do

something that's a tiny little bit more

difficult than it maybe needs to be

that's the ice path that's the the the

saer that's the whatever um a social

equivalent of that which has made me

braver and fear Less in Social scenarios

is making my

de making my demands or my feelings

known like uh basically arguing for my

own side so uh somebody

says asks me how the day is going I'm

like dude you know what it is actually

things are a bit tough at the moment or

xwi a conversation where you know that

you need to tell somebody about how they

made you feel uh got to tell you man I

know that you probably didn't mean it

but the other day that thing that

happened that really pissed me off and

uh yeah I I don't want this to impact

our friendship but that's that I don't

want that to happen again this is how it

made me feel and uh I just wanted to let

you know because you know I cherish this

French that's a really difficult

conversation to have but those little

things so again the reason I say that is

that I feel like there's a big cohort of

people who are great at making

themselves suffer in work in physical

training in diet in whatever it is and

then they still get into the social

realm I feel like a [ __ ] why am I such

a [ __ ] when it comes to having a

difficult conversation with a boss or a

cooworker or a friend or a girlfriend

and that make your demands known um

advocate for yourself that's what I

meant to say advocate for your own needs

and make them a priority and tell other

people gently and again proving that if

you apply a little bit of pressure

you're not made of glass and you're not

going to shatter what one of my old uh

boxing coaches said that the most

important lesson that you learn in

boxing is that when you get hit in the

face you're not going to break that when

you see new boxes maybe even up to your

boxes there's a degree of flinch the

Flinch response but once you've beaten

that and you realize do you ever

remember that um Conor McGregor sequence

that he did against uh who was the

second guy that he won the title off the

uh lightweight title uh not Aldo um kib

I have no clue who was the SEC who was

the second dude that he wanted off and

see Chase is opening up his laptop

anyway he's got this uh he throws this

combination but the combination begins

with this overhand right from the guy

that he's fighting against and it it

makes the end of Connor's nose go like

that it like but he just knows the

distance so well I always think about

that punch sort of incoming and him

basically understanding his tolerance

his resilience and knowing that that

wasn't going to hurt and he's his he

doesn't even blink wow his eyes are

open Eddie Alvarez wow uh he doesn't

even blink and there's comes in and

touches him on the nose and then from

there he's just open to to do this so I

think uh socially the same with that

have this difficult conversation

advocate for your own needs make your

needs a priority and believe that

they're worthwhile and show that the

world's not going to break down people

aren't going to call you a a selfish

egotistical narcissist for doing it and

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your high school I I remember you saying

that when you started doing something a

little bit different your high school

became very judgy and they weren't

exactly super supportive but as a young

person how do you overcome the Judgment

of other if you don't have the support

of people around you yeah so I have like

so many scenarios in my head of like

sort of screwed up things that people

would do or say or what they were I I'll

explain them so when I was let's just

say 15 to 17 I don't exactly remember

what exactly what age but I started my

fitness page which is now my Instagram

and it was called Jesse James Fitness

you know it has a little ring to it you

know it's like it's clearly not my just

name it's like oh this brand that I'm

trying to do you know sell t-shirts

workout programs whatever it might be

and obviously I said I had aspirations

of being a YouTuber and all that stuff

and as you're in high school at least in

my high school back then also

additionally it was not as normal to try

to start a YouTube but there was no Tik

Tok like Instagram and stuff and they

see this and they see me trying to do it

I have a good physique at this point

like there's no it's not even like I

have no no physique no no nothing total

wannabe Fitness yeah it's not even like

I'm really just trying to be a WN toe I

I genuinely could already be in the in

the industry in my opinion I I have good

genetics thank you Mom and Dad um and at

this point uh I have like a few thousand

maybe followers and honestly a lot of

them are probably just from lacrosse and

go to the pep rally of like freshman

sophomore junior seniors everybody's at

their own bleacher there's doing tug-of

warar doing challenges Battle of the

class as it was called um and I'm I'm a

freshman at this time remembering now or

sophomore whatever and the seniors all

chant Jessie James

Fitness Jesse James Fitness and I'm

standing there and I'm like [ __ ] okay I

can do two things here I can look down

and just like admit defeat and like let

them win and I'm not like that at all

and or you know I can keep my chin up I

can look at them I can double bicep flex

and say what do you want what do you

want so we were going out for tug of war

and that's when they were doing it and I

just look at them and I'm like and I

flex in my head my soul I'm like I'm

panicking I'm uncomfortable I'm embar

I'm so embarrassed like there's the

girls behind you that you want to date

the friends that you you know you're

making and all this stuff and like I'm

trying to be cool and and whatnot but

I'm like I can't let them see that like

it's a it's a poker face that I got to

keep on CU at least at least I can win

that and I feel like I kept doing that

for so long I really did like partially

not give a [ __ ] but also you'll always

give a [ __ ] I still give a [ __ ] I get a

hate comment now if I get enough of them

I'm still gonna give a [ __ ] I'm never

not going to give a [ __ ] if you if you

don't care that's just because you don't

have a desire in this anymore and I

remember I I do the flex we do the tug

of war whatever and then in the hallways

they'd be like Jesse Fitness what's up

man and I'd just be like like what's up

bro what's up like you know what I'm on

phas I don't care and I feel like people

really started to pick up on that and

like they were like damn this this this

mfer is like not breaking and these were

like the the junior or the gr above me

or whatever uh the're the cool kids I

called them the entitled kids they very

much were no hate against them now

everyone no big deal it made me who I

was but another time was um a kid for

Halloween I and he might even watching

this I forgive you it's okay uh he

dressed up as me as hey no kidding he

dressed up as me and I I remember seeing

this and I was like this is this is a

this is a new level I have to accept

like this is [ __ ] and honestly like

I'll get into a more so he he dresses up

at me he has a [ __ ] muscle suit on at

a party we're probably 16 17 he was one

of the kids that like go drink with his

friends I I drank a little when I was in

high school whatever I wasn't really a

partyer I didn't have time I was playing

lacrosse every day and I was like I'm

sitting at home seeing on my on my

Instagram and I'm like wow this [ __ ]

is dressing up as me right now it says

Jesse James Fitness and like those

things just like stick with you as like

a a driving motivation of like why I

want to make it even more it's almost

like a a trauma a trauma reaction like I

was traumatized my reaction is I'm gonna

I'm gonna win you're not gonna you're

not going to control me I'm going to

defeat you and everything in front of me

you're just a wall that I have to break

through you know and if I can't handle

this I don't deserve what I want like if

you that that was my mindset and I saw

that I remember and and you know what's

crazy is that

now year probably a few months ago he me

I'm not I would never name him but he

messages me about my Michael Chandler

collab and he's like dude saw the

Chandler collab so sick great job and I

was like huh weren't you and I was like

honestly thank you it's one of those

weird things about having a chip on your

shoulder about stuff that happened in

your past that

maybe some kids knew or in reflection

realized how much it might have impacted

you m uh but a lot of the time it's just

kids being kids I know and that's very

strange right

because the impact of something is so

much greater than the uh like estimate

of it it hurts way more than what was

thrown if that makes sense and um that's

a really strange thing I think for

people it's Circle for them to squat how

how can it be the case that this person

doesn't deserve for me to still bear a

grudge against them they that that hurt

and I remember you still remember it now

you know need 10 years later it's crazy

and it definitely stung for a while but

it's also like one of the things that

for some reason and I'm going to assume

that it's from my mom the way she raised

me and always like hyped me up in a way

or she she believed in me before I

believed in me and she believed in me so

much that I ended up believing in myself

in everything I am I weirdly believe in

myself for things I shouldn't believe in

myself for I'm like I could be I could

be a musician if I wanted let's be real

Jesse you're little tone deaf but like

you know what I mean like I have that

mindset that's ingrained in me and from

a young age so seeing those things

happen and then she would kind of be

she'd be like the backbone she'd be like

you can't let this affect you like in in

reality this is not doing anything it's

really not doing anything the only thing

I could do is hurt you and then you're

just stopping yourself from doing

anything cuzz it it's in your head like

no one else is seeing that and going you

know what I'm I'm not going to support

Jesse cuz that kid wore a muscle suit

like like that [ __ ] doesn't exist it's

all how we perceive it so having that

like backbone and belief in my body that

my mom instilled me from a young age I

feel like is one of the reasons that I

am in the position I am where I have so

much unconditional belief in myself that

I tell people that if you believe in

yourself like you actually believe not

just like oh I I believe in myself cuz I

was told by Chris and Jesse on a podcast

too like if you genuinely believe in

yourself you are 75% already there

toward your goals like you will you will

accomplish them if you believe yourself

put in the work it's done what has been the

the

uh what's been the process of closing

the loop with your dad yes having been

pushed so hard presumably a lot of

disappointment when the thing that he's

worked on with you for nearly a decade

yeah goes like P the pen and just toss

it out the window that was uh that was a

very hard time honestly for my whole

family because like me it's me my sister

my mom my dad and we're all very close

we all communicated a ton and great

relationships and for years it was all

great but then with my dad being so and

he because he thought this was the best

for me he thought I this is going to

make Jesse successful he's going to have

security when he's older like this it

was out of love it was just this love

that was I guess you could say hurtful

in a way and like a little toxic and so

I go through I'll give you the kind of

like the rundown of quitting and like

ripping and then pulling the pin on the

on the grenade and chucking it I call my

mom I call my sister I believe first

I've always kind of gone to her as like

all right what do I do like she's just

kind of like another parent to me and

she's like you're gonna have to like you

just call Mom tell her what's going on

she'll she'll handle dad that was kind

of always how it went like Mom's going

to handle dad and I tell my mom and

she's like I'll talk to your father and

basically my mom tells me the

conversation went like this they came to

visit me at Lehi uh during an alumni

game we were playing a game and after

the game we went to Target me and my mom

are going in just getting like college

supply stuff because you go early in in

sports you you don't go and everyone

else starts and I go in there and this

has been I've been there for about three

weeks and I'm really [ __ ] struggling

like very very depressed and I break

down crying to her just like I can't

keep it in like and I'm just walking

Target like about to like shot the

checkout aisles to my right and I start

tearing up and I'm and I'm like oh my

God and I look at her and I'm like I'm

like something's so [ __ ] wrong like I

I I feel like I can't feel anything I

have no interest in like women right now

and not that I was pursuing anything

else but just like my emotion of who

Jesse was like I always wanted to go out

and like talk to the girls didn't care

at all none of that social media I still

doing it but I was just like [ __ ] man

like my desire of everything is gone the

only thing I had that kept me sort of

sane was lifting and music and those are

like two things that I like combined

together and it was my only safe space

and I remember leaving that uh Target my

mom then dropped my mom and dad are in

the car my dad doesn't know I just cried

I'm like [ __ ] suck it up like you're

fine like get in the car like I'm I'm

the good boy that's [ __ ] completing

this mission of ours and when she

dropped DRS me off she told tell me the

conversation she looked at my dad and

was like you're not saying a word he's

leaving you have no say so shout out

Karen to this [ __ ] Legend and she's

like you have to accept this and that's

how it is period end of conversation and

I feel like he kind of knew for a while

like I know we're skipping Parts in the

story of like my my darkness and stuff

but like he kind of caught the idea a

little bit like my son struggling but I

feel like he kind of didn't want to

admit it and but what that did was it

broke down this massive

barrier of how my dad thought I should

go about life and also broke down a

massive barrier for myself that maybe I

don't have to listen to everyone telling

me to do things and maybe I should just

listen to myself and actually like

pursue things that I want to and I

haven't I haven't been able to in six

years of my life I've been playing acros

every day every weekend missing

homecoming uh late to prom leaving prom

weekend because I got to go play in an

All-Star game like the [ __ ] never ended

and like it made me like Relentless and

it definitely was like dedication and

Relentless right there but that [ __ ]

stuck with me for so long of like I

didn't get anything for a while of like

experience that normal people have and I

feel like it just hit a big breaking

point when I got to college and once

that happened it was uh it was then now

time like my mom tells my dad Jesse's

out accept it or you know you're not

going to have a relationship with your

son basically and then you know I come

home for the

weekend um I talk to my dad and stuff

and he's like he's very understanding

he's like honestly I would I I I don't

want to speak for him but I think it's

one of his biggest regrets is pushing me

that that far to my limits where as a

father you never want to push your son

into depression or anything not that he

pushed me there but like his actions

added up the setup yeah and I know like

we have a great relationship now we did

throughout years it was up and down good

bad sometimes now it's a great

relationship but during that time it

definitely like changed his mindset of

like just everything and really like

John had to become a new man and accept

things and I had to become a new man and

learn that I have to say what I want in

life do what I want and like you said

hold yourself I have to advocate for

myself at all times because I this is a

saying that I stuck with do what you're

meant to not what you're supposed to

everyone is always supposed to be doing

something but if you're not meant to be

doing that why the [ __ ] are you doing it

like seriously I wonder how many people

have gone through their entire lives

never doing anything that they weren't

supposed to do yep you know that there's

sad it's just been one big series of

dominoes from when they were born until

now at whatever age they are where they

never told their dad or the equivalent

of it that they didn't want to do

lacrosse yeah and ah it's like one of my

main missions on social media yes I want

to do big things make cool videos but

like the the true why of like the core

of why I started why I do all this was

because I went through that and I feel

like I went through such a dark phase of

my life with such a bright Awakening I

was like people need to know this [ __ ]

like people need to just not not be told

it but shown it I would I'd advocate for

myself that on my channel it's me living

my best life doing cool things that I've

desires that I've interested in you know

I'm interested in Vikings I'm going to

go freaking Norway jump off cliff with

Vikings and eat and drink meat and do

these cool things cuz like that's

something I've always wanted to do I

have a lot of Fascination and stuff like

that and I always wanted to leave a

subconscious message with my videos like

if you're not living life to the fullest

like you are missing out on so much and

I hope that people can watch this and

realize that you are worth that meant to

life rather than that supposed to life

and I hope people can

pursue they're meant to eventually yeah

it's scary man that's you know why I

think advocating for yourself making

your needs known almost Do's this sort

of assumption a lot of people have very

much a British thing uh but maybe

working-class thing too that who am I to

actually have needs or desires or wants

in that regard that there's this sort of

weird glory and sacrifice in subjugating

yourself it's like no no no no it's

Noble for me to hate what I do and still

do it it's Noble for me to suffer this

sort of weird sort of self flatulation

as you whip yourself through whatever it

is that you're going through and in some

ways there is but no one's going to give

you some award at the end of your life

that says he suffered in silence yeah

there's not going to be a banner over

your death bed that goes congratulations

for never making a fuss yeah I don't

think that that exists and

so much of the advice that's on the

internet at the moment has been born out

of a identity politics victimhood fragility

fragility

overdiagnosis of normal human discomfort

as a pathological mental problem world

so most of the content is Goggins and

Joo saying stay hard suck it up

buttercup you don't need to be such a

soft person but there is a world of

people out there who are making

themselves suffer too much who aren't

advocating for their own desires who

aren't making their needs known who

don't believe that that they should be a

priority in their life or in anybody

else's and I think that they're the sort

of people that listen to this

show and that stuff in many ways pushes

them further into what they already have

too much of they don't need to do more

suffering they need to get better at

making their own needs known to the

people around them yeah I think I think

it comes down to like how I said about

believing in yourself I think a lot of

people weren't raised the way to have

that where they need to learn that in

their 20s 30s 40s whatever and that's

way harder than growing up thinking that

so I'm definitely like very blessed to

have that intuitional belief in myself

from like day one and I think for those

that may not relate to that how how I

have that belief it's one of those

things that that's where I think you

need to realize there's things like the

9 to-5 and there's things like the

entrepreneurial route and I think it's

really important people to realize that

it isn't always grass isn't always grass

is greener on the other side I think

people need to realize also that there

is just as much in some scenarios

struggle in oh I'm gonna do everything

on my own I'm be an entrepreneur you're

working 24 hours brother good luck it's

hard nine to five good luck if I had to

go to that good luck it's hard it's hard

on both ends life it's just a matter of

almost like what evil you want to put

your energy into you have to deal with

like they see goggin and they think oh

suffer suffer suffer let's go let's go

I'm gonna I'm gonna [ __ ] get through

this job I don't care and that makes

them maybe they get dopamine off of that

but you also could just input that same

exact suffer and energy into maybe

something that you have passion and

drive for it's still going to maybe have

its moments of difficulty and suck but

at least it's towards something that

like your inner soul it's different

feeling of of outcome of just internal

feeling of your like your Soul's

dopamine hits you know what I mean in

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slod wisdom what's your advice to people

who don't have a supportive surrounding

that maybe are in a you heard of food

deserts it's a places around countries

where it's very difficult to get hold of

high quality food I often think about

role model deserts or sort of support

deserts uh places where someone is

trying to do something a little bit

different maybe they're not following

the prescribed route that typically

people from where they're from are doing

and they go uh because you did it twice

you first left the normal education

normal teenager life to do the lacrosse

thing and then left the lacrosse life

thing to do the next thing so both

situations it's been like five things

that I've kind of like said I'm out um I

went I I left that normal Teenage life

that's one left Lehi that's two went to

Montclair State University D3 School

very close to home sort of like a more

expensive Community College that you can

live at and played lacrosse there and

played there did very well was like a

had the most goals on the team and stuff

like that so again people are like keep

doing it bro keep doing it you're doing

amazing oh my God positive reinforcement

yeah and I'm like I'm like is this what

I'm supposed to be doing though so then

that got to a point where I was like I I

went into I went straight into my coach

and was like hey I don't want to do this

anymore that was that was the third time

he luckily like I I appreciate what he

did he was like I want you to shift your

perspective I don't want you to look at

this I was waiting for the BP uh I don't

want you to look at this as ah you have

to be here just go out hang out with the

guys do your thing putting pressure on

stop putting pressure on yourself and

that lightened it up for a while really

did and kind of like almost like an

internal anxiety that we all put on

ourselves of like I have to be here I

have to do this oh I got to wake up at

6: a.m. tomorrow rather than just being

like you know what it's happening let's

accept this rather than fight it and

that internal fight that internal fight

is where anxiety is painful because in

your head you're basically living

through it multiple times and you're

forcing yourself to feel the anxiety

that's happening in real life but if you

just take a second this helps me a lot

with anxiety I take a step back I go I

have anxiety right now and I'm feeling

it and I allow myself to feel this

anxiety and my body almost like releases

the tension and I kind of relax in into

it and yes there's still anxiety but

it's like it's like when you're in the

ice bath and you're oh [ __ ] oh my God

I'm dying this is this killing me and

then you're like you know what and you

just let it still hurts there's some

days you get you have to just let it you

have to just let just accept it accept

the pain Mar Twain says worrying is like

paying a debt that you don't owe mhm and

that's it it's not just the discomfort

of the thing that you're going to have

to do it's the 50 times that you think

about that thing in advance of it and

then once you finish thinking about it

and it happens you then sort of ruminate

about the fact that it yeah I know

exactly what I also want to say and I

don't think people a lot of people know

this about me um which I'm totally fine

being open about but I I'm am on an

anti-depressant since I was 15 um I

experienced a ton of anxiety when I was

like 15 I had no idea how to handle it

so I I kind of like acted out in anger

because I just didn't know what this

feeling was and it was just straight up

anxiety and it came a lot from the

pressure of sports and oh I only scored

two goals today I performed better last

week ah what do I do I just dropped the

ball everyone's looking at me the

coaches are mad whatever it might be and

I went on to zoff at like 50 milligrams

for literally nine years pretty crazy

the one time I came off and the reason

I'm bringing this up because I want to

almost normalize like hey if you're on

this stuff like I used to feel ashamed

that I was on it and not tell anybody

like maybe my two best friends knew for

like five years and no one else knew but

I went on it for from 15 to 18 when I

went to Lehi is the only time I ever

came off the time the time you made the

most important decision in your life the

time I made the most important decision

in my life and also felt the most pain

in my life did I feel more pain because

I was off I have no idea 50 milligram is

not a lot it's small but I then went

back on you know felt regulated does it

work I have no I honestly have no idea I

can't tell se you without being H would

you ever be interested

in uh titrating down or or dropping off

it or is this going to be for the rest

of your life it's a good question I've

had these conversations um one thing

that I'm afraid of is altering my mind

from where it's at right now I think

eventually I think it comes from a lot

of internal work and daily practices to

be able to shift off of it like you know

got to get on breath work I don't do

that now I gotta I gotta maybe go in the

sauna and the ice bath I know little

things like that that I need to take in

account if I'm coming off of it the only

thing I fear and I could be like just

like a a trauma thing is in 2018 just

being that depressed and having that I

think that me stopping registers in my

brain as that's going to happen it might

not you know it probably doesn't but in

my head I'm scared it's a high-risk

strategy man I mean I have no idea what

longterm decades long SSRI usage is but

you know you've got fiance you've got

business you seem like you have a lot of

energy so a lot of the things that seem

to come along for the ride with ssris

like libido dipping dipping desire to

drive and train and stuff like that I

don't have that luckily well yeah it's

or maybe imagine if I was out without it

like whoa having sex with everyone um

Everybody watch out it away keep it away

um I had Andrew Wilkinson on the show

he's a billionaire he own tiny.com he's

got a bunch of other businesses and he

was singing the Praises of SSR I as well

and this is another another one of those conversations

conversations

where the midwit headline is ssris are

overprescribed for people that don't

need them therefore all ssris are

[ __ ] and everyone that's on them is

a wimp right the second order smarter

person thinking is there probably is

overprescription and maybe ssris do only

move the needle a little bit especially

for many cohorts but some drugs some

people are hyperresponders to certain

drugs and it seems like for you hasn't

come with a whole bunch of side effects

and it does seem to work well Andrew

Wilkinson said the same he tried

everything he tried keto he tried

carnivore he tried breath work C he'd

done all of the different things and

then he tried ssris and it seemed to

work so I'm like I'm really Keen to just

get people out of this reflective midwit

thinking which is oh [ __ ] ssris you go

okay what is it somehow more noble for

someone to suffer and be miserable as

opposed to take this it's the same thing

with OIC I think lots of people are

going to come around eventually when the

conceptual inertia of taking a pill to

lose weight is cheating okay does that

mean that the caffeine in your drink is

cheating because that's augmenting the

way that you operate does it mean that a

diabetic that can't produce insulin that

needs to take a shot are they cheating

to stay alive they're [ __ ] yeah [ __ ]

Ju Just like suck it up [ __ ] so I I

really and I'm fortunate with the

audience I have that they're thoughtful

people but yeah uh avoiding that midwit

thinking is something that's super

important and it's really cool the um

SSRI Effectiveness for you that seems to

have you functioning pretty normally

people I I've heard uh on the MOG cast

it's like sush and James English years

ago they were like I think uh Jesse's

brain automatically produces Aderall in

his head and I was like that makes a lot

of s I don't I don't do any drugs like

whatsoever I drink maybe one drink a

month and it's like some the way I'm

operated is almost like I am on these

performance-enhancing drugs I feel like

but just naturally something's in my

body and drive and passion so luckily

the ssris haven't affected me in any

negative way maybe that's why I'm like

able to work so much I don't know it

seems like it's functioning pretty well

that's why I'm so happy guys also to

think about what you said that if you

were to come off them You' have to go

through all of these uh routines maybe

to ensure that mental health was in a

good place so last six to eight months

for me has been rough I've been detoxing

from mold in a house that I was living

in which for anybody that's going

through it it's brutal I still haven't

sort of fully talked about it on the

show yet but it's

been awful it's so hard and the way that

I described it to my therapist was it

feels like the gravity of your mood is

so much heavier wow so in order for me

to be in a good mood or for my brain to

be functioning well I have to have just

got out of a cold plunge after doing a

SAA listening to my favorite music on my

way to see my friend to eat my favorite

food while the sun shine you know it's

it doesn't just you don't just stumble

upon a good mood and you don't just

stumble upon a good sort of uh mind

space in terms of energy I'm always

forgetting things my mood is always

struggling and it feels like swimming

upstream and that's kind of the same

thing you're talking about there so when

it comes to enhancements in different

ways I was uh talking to Dr Mike and

Crystal his wife the other day and she

was saying there's even this new class

of ssris now that they've dialed in the

formulation more effectively it works on

a different pathway do even fewer side

effect it's basically free happiness and

I understand because

of up until now most of pharmacology

hasn't come along every time that you

try and give someone a free lunch there

is some unseen cancer down the road

there is some side effect cholesterols

through the roof and people are dying

because of blood clot or whatever it

might be there are all of those apart

from when you get to the stage where you

can fully Master these things that's

like kind of saying previously well you

know we've said that surgeries are going

to work for all of this time but each

time that we do it people get keep on

getting infected it's like yeah that's

because you didn't have a understanding

of The Germ theory of disease but then

as understandings continue to develop I

think we should be cautious about using

uh lessons from the past to sort of

inform right now at least um super

judgmentally it's like let's be open to

this especially given it's like saying

how can you have a computer that talks

to you you go well I don't know llms

seem to be doing a pretty good job so

the same thing might happen in

Pharmacology as

um but yeah the the idea of having to

work for a good mood is something that

I've been intimately familiar with over

the last few months so I I feel you m

it's a fun fact I actually forgot to

take mine last night so today I was like

withdrawing that's one of the reasons

that also like coming off that short

acting the what do you mean SSR it well

you didn't take it last night and today

you feel it about an hour and a half ago

I was like I was like why am I so

[ __ ] dizzy and then I looked at my

fiance and I was like I didn't take my

[ __ ] pill last night so I'll turn a

corner in my brain was like wow so it's

it's happening it's about delayed by

like it's like 36 hours I got hit and I

was like whoa okay but it's not as if

you build up some passive reservoir of

this stuff I guess not so it's happening

pretty quick that's interesting I've

always had that like if I miss it one

day I get I get

dizzy getting on to some of the stuff

that you've done in Fitness we talked

about this earlier on hybrid training

running is super popular at the moment

yep you run every day for a month yep

what did that do to

you it gave me a lot of respect for

runners um especially hybrid Runners

honestly all Runners any any any new

challenge of workouts tough but doing it

every day it was like new and fun and

your sore in the beginning and it's

really hard but I feel like running is a

different sort of reward where I see a

very quick result where I run three

miles on day one horrible time I'm dying

I'm cramping I feel terrible I'm like

bro I'm running on marathon in 30 days

how is this going to happen by day 7 I'm

like I can run three miles then when you

go to six you know it's hard again you

got to taper up I did a very rapid prep

no one really does this Nick bear sort

of coached me he's like hey this is the

best case scenario you're going to run

this many miles each day good luck no

one should do this but so you started

from not being a runner yep and within

30 days did full Marathon full Marathon

sub four baby how did that feel uh the marathon

marathon

excruciating uh it wasn't the most

painful thing I've ever done and I'll

I'll segue into what what it is because

you want to hear that um the marathon

the first 13 miles were pretty chill and

I was like all right halfway like this

is going to be pretty easy like not easy

but like I'll be okay and then I get to

mile 15 and I was like bro my legs like

are just like not cooperating now mile

16 I entered uh the wall which they call

it it's like a wall the wall means the

wall in running is where you hit this

block a period of time many miles one

mile could be 10 doesn't everyone's

different and it's the biggest hurdle

that you have to get over it's the same

you're running at the same Pace there's

no difference nothing has changed it's

just your body has and your body and

mind has created this wall that you have

to literally get through and for me it

was mile 16 to

24 for many people everyone's like dude

when you hit mile 20 you're gonna hit a

wall it's you'll get through it you'll

get through it 20 20 you'll hit it 20

you hit bro 16 and I I kept I kept it

kept getting drastically worse and worse

and I was like I was like I have to be

leaving the wall soon I have to be

leaving the wall soon n 22 why am I

still in the wall what is happening am I

am I gonna die the longest wall in

history so and it's probably because I

had a very rapid training for it um and

at this point I'm like my hip flexors

feel like they're going to tear off the

bone and I'm very underprepared 30 days

is nowhere near enough no one should

ever do that unless you're stupid making

a YouTube video uh we get to mile 24 I

meet an angel of a man I think his name

was Matt I believe it was Matt it was

like literally like a like an angel that

someone just put right there and I was

like hey hey you and he's like hey oh

you're that YouTube guy he's like I've

seen you and I was I was like uh can I

can I run with you please because we're

running we're through the woods also so

it's kind of like a difficult uh

Marathon they're all hard and I catch up

with him and I look at him I go do not

slow down don't slow down I'm going to

I'm going to keep up with you and then

we start getting this pace and I'm just

like I'm I want to cry already it's it's

happening but I stick with him and then

and then he starts slowing down I and

then I pick him up and I'm like come on

bro come on and then a third dude joins

us and we're all dying together and it's

like we've never met each other in our

lives we're all like you got this bro

what's your name nice to meet you and

we're dying and and we finally make it

and honestly at like M if I didn't meet

Matt at Mile

24ish I genuinely I kept like walking

running walking running the last few

miles before I met him and I was like

dude if I have to walk this like I have

failed so miserably I'm so mad at myself

because I know I can I can handle the

pain and I kept reminding myself this is

not the hardest thing you've done the

hardest thing I've done by by the way

when I finished the marathon my fiance

was at the end euphoric feeling gave her

hug saw my mom had my team there laid on

the ground couldn't get up uh couldn't

train hamstrings for like six weeks I

was going to say what would the next few

days like oh my God the pain was so bad

I I was limping for multiple days like

could barely lift my leg and for about

six weeks my the the tendon behind your

knee there's like those two like stringy

tendons uh I could not do a hamstring

curl for the life of me I could do like

squats and stuff but I could not curl

anything like not even like five pounds

felt like I probably tore something and

then my hip I could not raise my right

leg and then for a while there's a lot

of crunching going on I was like this

was a bad idea and

video did great 3.3 million views

probably in growing uh the my favorite

part about that video was the the

storytelling and ending at the end was

so like pure and it really moved people

and got people so like the comments on

that video was was different than

anything else did you see Casey ni stats

video about his Marathon which the the

sub three yes I saw how it took him like

years decades I think decades I ran mine

353 and and I was super happy with that

I was like what the hell did I I I'm not

going to lie I'm an athlete I played D

lacrosse I was very good at sports and

stuff like being athletic doesn't

doesn't isn't hard for me but running a

marathon is wildly different athletic

doesn't really matter there it's just

matter of like willpower conditioning in

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tell you about the hardest thing that

I've done oh God I have Trauma from this

one you can thank a guy named Brian

Johnson AKA liver King okay this guy

psychopath love him great guy to be

around uh extremely successful

businessman very motivating uh he does

this thing called the Barbarian you have

15 pound on ankle weights on each leg 15

pound uh or 70 PB backpack 150 140 PB

sled and holding 70 lb kettle bells and

it's 112 degrees outside in Texas and

it's August or July or something and you

have to go through the sand so like sand

gives resistance as you pull it's

digging it's digging itself into the

ground so it's torturous so it's like if you do the math it's like 315 pounds

you do the math it's like 315 pounds you're carrying so like and you have to

you're carrying so like and you have to go a mile I've done it once with him the

go a mile I've done it once with him the first time I met him uh and we did it on

first time I met him uh and we did it on flat gravel I did it in an hour in 20

flat gravel I did it in an hour in 20 something minutes I beat him by an hour

something minutes I beat him by an hour I was like what the hell just happened

I was like what the hell just happened bro that was like okay that was one of

bro that was like okay that was one of the one of the hardest things I've done

the one of the hardest things I've done not the hardest then I do the Second

not the hardest then I do the Second Challenge a year later he invites me

Challenge a year later he invites me back he's like I want you to do the

back he's like I want you to do the Barbarian Crucible like this sounds

Barbarian Crucible like this sounds terrible but I'm in I'm all four stupid

terrible but I'm in I'm all four stupid things that I'm gonna have to put myself

things that I'm gonna have to put myself through that's why I liter have like

through that's why I liter have like scars from this and we do this about

scars from this and we do this about quarter mile in I was like already

quarter mile in I was like already having a first heat stroke and I was

having a first heat stroke and I was like what is I was like bro this is next

like what is I was like bro this is next level cuz it's through sand it's through

level cuz it's through sand it's through dirt it's through uh it's the same thing

dirt it's through uh it's the same thing same exact thing same mile just the

same exact thing same mile just the course is 10 times harder and he last

course is 10 times harder and he last time he did it it was a competition so

time he did it it was a competition so you kind of have that like let me Chase

you kind of have that like let me Chase you feeling this time he's just chilling

you feeling this time he's just chilling he's smoking a cigar drinking his

he's smoking a cigar drinking his whiskey calling the walkie-talkie guy

whiskey calling the walkie-talkie guy next to me talking [ __ ] and I'm like I I

next to me talking [ __ ] and I'm like I I told him I said I will finish this and

told him I said I will finish this and this goes back to my like almost stupid

this goes back to my like almost stupid belief in myself to where I do things

belief in myself to where I do things that hurt myself because I'm like I'm

that hurt myself because I'm like I'm not going to fail I I'm not going to

not going to fail I I'm not going to stop so I psychotically do this for like

stop so I psychotically do this for like let's say 3/4 of the mile and I get to

let's say 3/4 of the mile and I get to the sand it's like first half just

the sand it's like first half just gravel and dirt and stuff hard but not

gravel and dirt and stuff hard but not the worst sand at like last point four

the worst sand at like last point four miles and I uh I get to this point where

miles and I uh I get to this point where I'm now fullon having a heat stroke I'm

I'm now fullon having a heat stroke I'm freezing it's 112 degrees outside makes

freezing it's 112 degrees outside makes no sense I've sweat all water out now

no sense I've sweat all water out now I'm covered in white because like my uh

I'm covered in white because like my uh like electrolytes are just on me and I'm

like electrolytes are just on me and I'm like I'm like I'm dying I look at their

like I'm like I'm dying I look at their their producers and stuff I'm like bro

their producers and stuff I'm like bro I'm done were you allowed water I was

I'm done were you allowed water I was allowed to drink water they were pouring

allowed to drink water they were pouring a ton of water on me but like nothing

a ton of water on me but like nothing was working and I look at their producer

was working and I look at their producer and I'm like I'm done I'm I'm going to

and I'm like I'm done I'm I'm going to they said if you uncp you're done about

they said if you uncp you're done about to unclip and they're like

to unclip and they're like don't do it and I'm like I'm stupid I'm

don't do it and I'm like I'm stupid I'm good at being told that what to do like

good at being told that what to do like and still doing it and I'm like okay you

and still doing it and I'm like okay you said don't do it I'm not going to do it

said don't do it I'm not going to do it I'm gonna keep going I go I go next Heat

I'm gonna keep going I go I go next Heat stroke on the ground laying there for 30

stroke on the ground laying there for 30 minutes I'm I'm like my soul has left my

minutes I'm I'm like my soul has left my body I know I don't have sweat left in

body I know I don't have sweat left in my body I'm covered I lick my lips it's

my body I'm covered I lick my lips it's salty like I needed some of this stuff

salty like I needed some of this stuff great plug yep but I get to a point

great plug yep but I get to a point where I'm like I'm like dude I I have

where I'm like I'm like dude I I have .15 left of a mile like I have to just

.15 left of a mile like I have to just finish this same thing in the marathon

finish this same thing in the marathon like if I don't I'm just going to be

like if I don't I'm just going to be pissed once I feel better I'm going be

pissed once I feel better I'm going be pissed Y and I I somehow slug my way to

pissed Y and I I somehow slug my way to the end five steps drop five steps drop

the end five steps drop five steps drop five steps drop I'm like dead in the

five steps drop I'm like dead in the face I get there I cross the finish line

face I get there I cross the finish line I just collapse on the ground and he's

I just collapse on the ground and he's like yeah there you go brother and he's

like yeah there you go brother and he's like yeah yeah boy he says that so he's

like yeah yeah boy he says that so he's like uh he's like let it the [ __ ] he has

like uh he's like let it the [ __ ] he has all these sayings they're just psychotic

all these sayings they're just psychotic and I'm laying there girl and safe to

and I'm laying there girl and safe to say it took me 4 hours 4 hours to go a

say it took me 4 hours 4 hours to go a mile and that was the most painful thing

mile and that was the most painful thing I've ever done in my life so when I did

I've ever done in my life so when I did the marathon I just kept thinking about

the marathon I just kept thinking about that and I was like that was four hours

that and I was like that was four hours of way more pain this is four hours of a

of way more pain this is four hours of a different pain my legs have never had so

different pain my legs have never had so much lactic acid in my body but my upper

much lactic acid in my body but my upper body is perfectly fine my mind can push

body is perfectly fine my mind can push through this but with liver King it's

through this but with liver King it's like your arms are tired your legs are

like your arms are tired your legs are tired your soul you can't even feel your

tired your soul you can't even feel your soul because you're so dehydrated

soul because you're so dehydrated was a crazy experience what have you

was a crazy experience what have you learned about resilience to physical

learned about resilience to physical discomfort from the challenges and

discomfort from the challenges and things that you've done I've learned

things that you've done I've learned that you can push your body so much

that you can push your body so much farther than you'd ever think something

farther than you'd ever think something that I that I learned at Lehi uh we had

that I that I learned at Lehi uh we had a Navy SEAL course come to us and so I

a Navy SEAL course come to us and so I hated everything about Lehi School uh

hated everything about Lehi School uh the guys were cool the coaches were

the guys were cool the coaches were always nice to me but like the program

always nice to me but like the program didn't want to do it all that stuff

didn't want to do it all that stuff sucked when they brought in Navy Seals

sucked when they brought in Navy Seals and made us stay up for 50 hours

and made us stay up for 50 hours favorite thing I was I was depressed at

favorite thing I was I was depressed at the time [ __ ] loved it way better than

the time [ __ ] loved it way better than whatever the hell we were doing before

whatever the hell we were doing before so it's like this weird everyone else

so it's like this weird everyone else hated it I was like I don't know why

hated it I was like I don't know why that was the best part of my month and

that was the best part of my month and we do this oh dude I'm like remembering

we do this oh dude I'm like remembering this [ __ ] it's crazy okay I'm like 18

this [ __ ] it's crazy okay I'm like 18 we're I'm like I'm like 18 180 PBS right

we're I'm like I'm like 18 180 PBS right now I was probably almost 200 just meat

now I was probably almost 200 just meat stick bro [ __ ] 4500 calories a day

stick bro [ __ ] 4500 calories a day and they make us do perfect jumping

and they make us do perfect jumping jacks perfect situps perfect push-ups

jacks perfect situps perfect push-ups one person messes up everyone is

one person messes up everyone is required to call that one person out

required to call that one person out basically make them make them feel like

basically make them make them feel like [ __ ] and then everyone runs because of

[ __ ] and then everyone runs because of it we do that for 4 hours straight they

it we do that for 4 hours straight they say go home get 1 hour of sleep we go

say go home get 1 hour of sleep we go home we [ __ ] lay down we get right

home we [ __ ] lay down we get right back up we're in a pool at 3:00 a.m.

back up we're in a pool at 3:00 a.m. they say put your sweatsuits on full

they say put your sweatsuits on full crew neck full sweatpants these

crew neck full sweatpants these sweatpants are like double XXL that

sweatpants are like double XXL that we're wearing and they're like jump in

we're wearing and they're like jump in the pool and I'm like what the [ __ ] and

the pool and I'm like what the [ __ ] and and and they're like if you can't swim

and and they're like if you can't swim go to the shallow end like dead ass they

go to the shallow end like dead ass they said this to us and I was like someone's

said this to us and I was like someone's gonna die we go in and they're like okay

gonna die we go in and they're like okay we're gonna do the push-ups the sit-ups

we're gonna do the push-ups the sit-ups the everything on the outside of the

the everything on the outside of the pool we're soaking wet we're doing them

pool we're soaking wet we're doing them we're calling out people for not doing

we're calling out people for not doing it right and you're you're held

it right and you're you're held accountable if you don't if you if they

accountable if you don't if you if they see you see someone and say and you

see you see someone and say and you don't go hey Johnny over here didn't do

don't go hey Johnny over here didn't do his push-up right now you're [ __ ] now

his push-up right now you're [ __ ] now you get called out so it's everybody's

you get called out so it's everybody's calling out each other and just saying

calling out each other and just saying like you suck you're

like you suck you're horrible very traumatizing for some

horrible very traumatizing for some people you should see the faces on these

people you should see the faces on these people were I'm going to die and then we

people were I'm going to die and then we go to the pool and we're like okay now

go to the pool and we're like okay now we're going to do basically like a deep

we're going to do basically like a deep end simulation thing where you have to

end simulation thing where you have to take off your sweatshirt you have to

take off your sweatshirt you have to switch with somebody and then put it on

switch with somebody and then put it on it's a it's some Navy SEAL training um

it's a it's some Navy SEAL training um don't know the name of it but wild

don't know the name of it but wild experience they you tread you're

experience they you tread you're treading and you're in like picture like

treading and you're in like picture like so much resistance on your legs and

so much resistance on your legs and you're like 40 PBS 20 pounds heavier

you're like 40 PBS 20 pounds heavier with this like weighted clothes on you

with this like weighted clothes on you and you're trying to swim and everyone's

and you're trying to swim and everyone's like every you're trying to like hey you

like every you're trying to like hey you got this you got this you're talking to

got this you got this you're talking to each other up and they're like all right

each other up and they're like all right everyone take off your sweatshirt and

everyone take off your sweatshirt and you have to go on a ready ready attack

you have to go on a ready ready attack call so like everyone's on the exact

call so like everyone's on the exact same page and you take it off and you're

same page and you take it off and you're treading you're treading at one arm you

treading you're treading at one arm you have to hold it up with one arm until

have to hold it up with one arm until everybody is ready you know and it takes

everybody is ready you know and it takes 2 minutes at least to get these things

2 minutes at least to get these things off it's like stuck to you kids don't

off it's like stuck to you kids don't know what they're doing some kids

know what they're doing some kids literally are being held up by other

literally are being held up by other people I shouldn't say kids we're like

people I shouldn't say kids we're like adults at this time and we're treading

adults at this time and we're treading we're treading and then it's like ready

we're treading and then it's like ready ready attack switch with somebody you

ready attack switch with somebody you switch now ready R attack put it on so

switch now ready R attack put it on so think of like a wet rag like stuck

think of like a wet rag like stuck together and you're like trying to like

together and you're like trying to like find the opening and you're treading

find the opening and you're treading still for like we're at like minute

still for like we're at like minute eight of treading and then we put it on

eight of treading and then we put it on and we're like all just dying some kids

and we're like all just dying some kids are you're drowning like genuinely

are you're drowning like genuinely there's two people holding their arms up

there's two people holding their arms up and they're like their head is barely

and they're like their head is barely above the water and if they don't

above the water and if they don't complete it restart we did like four

complete it restart we did like four rounds of this thing and they would they

rounds of this thing and they would they look at the team captain go how quick

look at the team captain go how quick can you do it they wanted to push the

can you do it they wanted to push the hell out of us and the team captain says

hell out of us and the team captain says something like two minutes okay do it

something like two minutes okay do it again they look at him again you didn't

again they look at him again you didn't you did it 150 how quick can you do it

you did it 150 how quick can you do it 130 they're like all right 130 you did

130 they're like all right 130 you did 125 how quick are you doing all right

125 how quick are you doing all right 120 we do it we get all the way down to

120 we do it we get all the way down to like 115 120 we're all we've been

like 115 120 we're all we've been treading water for like 40 freaking

treading water for like 40 freaking minutes cuz in between maybe you get

minutes cuz in between maybe you get like a quick put the shoulder on

like a quick put the shoulder on something but you're back crazy

something but you're back crazy experience and that is pre-youtube

experience and that is pre-youtube challenge so like doing that uh

challenge so like doing that uh definitely showed me like you're capable

definitely showed me like you're capable of so much those seals that day were

of so much those seals that day were like listen when you think you're done

like listen when you think you're done when you think you're done not just like

when you think you're done not just like ah I'm tired I'm done when you think

ah I'm tired I'm done when you think you're truly done you have 40% left in

you're truly done you have 40% left in the tank and you need to tell yourself

the tank and you need to tell yourself that every single time when you're on

that every single time when you're on the field when you think you're done 40%

the field when you think you're done 40% left keep pushing and I was like damn

left keep pushing and I was like damn I'm going to live by that and like

I'm going to live by that and like obviously I'm not an AV seal by any

obviously I'm not an AV seal by any means or anything but like that that

means or anything but like that that that stuck with me and when I get in

that stuck with me and when I get in those moments I think there's still 40

those moments I think there's still 40 like that still sticks with me 40% left

like that still sticks with me 40% left when I'm at my marathon and I'm at Mile

when I'm at my marathon and I'm at Mile 24 still 40% left sadly yeah I

24 still 40% left sadly yeah I wonder again how many people would

wonder again how many people would benefit from really formative

benefit from really formative experiences like that you know it's such

experiences like that you know it's such an opportunity for you to do it as a

an opportunity for you to do it as a College athlete but most people get out

College athlete but most people get out of that you know I hear about um these

of that you know I hear about um these Alpha boot camp things that are

Alpha boot camp things that are happening I know the owners and there's

happening I know the owners and there's a bunch of them bed Ross has been on the

a bunch of them bed Ross has been on the show Kian if you know him uh and there's

show Kian if you know him uh and there's it's kind of easy to mock online because

it's kind of easy to mock online because the storyline tells you too much it's

the storyline tells you too much it's just way too easy of a headline where

just way too easy of a headline where someone says uh man pays $10,000 to have

someone says uh man pays $10,000 to have dude with beard and full sleeve shout at

dude with beard and full sleeve shout at him while he doesn't sleep you know it's

him while he doesn't sleep you know it's a funny headline but when you actually

a funny headline but when you actually look at what those kinds of formative

look at what those kinds of formative experiences maybe teach you and the fact

experiences maybe teach you and the fact that you got to learn that at 18 yeah

that you got to learn that at 18 yeah the reason that it's a bit that people

the reason that it's a bit that people think it's a bit cringe and it might be

think it's a bit cringe and it might be cringe I'm not too sure the reason that

cringe I'm not too sure the reason that people think it's a bit cringe is why

people think it's a bit cringe is why are you at 45 needing this you go well

are you at 45 needing this you go well what if you've never had it before what

what if you've never had it before what if you've never pushed yourself to that

if you've never pushed yourself to that place before normal person at what point

place before normal person at what point in your life are you going beyond that

in your life are you going beyond that 40% line that you think is your normal

40% line that you think is your normal one you even someone that runs Marathon

one you even someone that runs Marathon if they're preparing for six months or a

if they're preparing for six months or a full year for it it should be a

full year for it it should be a relatively sure thing unless you've got

relatively sure thing unless you've got some sort of weird pathology and your

some sort of weird pathology and your heart blows up halfway you it's

heart blows up halfway you it's difficult and impressive but relatively

difficult and impressive but relatively and then you go okay what about an Iron

and then you go okay what about an Iron Man okay even with that the point is

Man okay even with that the point is that you're training to be able to do

that you're training to be able to do the thing yeah it would be almost like I

the thing yeah it would be almost like I see what you're saying doing doing

see what you're saying doing doing something that you're almost not

something that you're almost not prepared for to torture yourself so much

prepared for to torture yourself so much that you will gain a much more valuable

that you will gain a much more valuable lesson than if you prepared for it yeah

lesson than if you prepared for it yeah of course which is crazy yes and going

of course which is crazy yes and going through that I'm very great this is

through that I'm very great this is where the moments where I I then look

where the moments where I I then look back at my dad setting me up in these

back at my dad setting me up in these situations where I'm like thank you so

situations where I'm like thank you so much for even though it was Rocky at

much for even though it was Rocky at times thank you so much for making me go

times thank you so much for making me go do this because there's a reason I'm in

do this because there's a reason I'm in the position I am there's a reason I can

the position I am there's a reason I can h handle so much and there's a reason

h handle so much and there's a reason that I can push myself so much and it

that I can push myself so much and it all falls back to being in the Rain the

all falls back to being in the Rain the hail the snow him throwing the ball a

hail the snow him throwing the ball a million times and I'm like why are we

million times and I'm like why are we doing this it all makes sense now and

doing this it all makes sense now and the way liver King is is is why it's why

the way liver King is is is why it's why I respect him so much and yes he has had

I respect him so much and yes he has had his scandals but as a man and you could

his scandals but as a man and you could argue this because he lied whatever as a

argue this because he lied whatever as a man that I know as he's like a friend of

man that I know as he's like a friend of mine I see his sons and then I see the

mine I see his sons and then I see the way he is with them and how it was

way he is with them and how it was similar to my father and the way that he

similar to my father and the way that he pushes them and the way that my dad

pushes them and the way that my dad pushed me and I'm and I look at I looked

pushed me and I'm and I look at I looked I told them and I said I said I know it

I told them and I said I said I know it might not make sense now what your dad

might not make sense now what your dad is doing and how you got to do the

is doing and how you got to do the Barbarian you got to you know be strict

Barbarian you got to you know be strict with your diet or whatever I'm like it's

with your diet or whatever I'm like it's G to make give it 10 years you're going

G to make give it 10 years you're going to thank him and I and I promise I

to thank him and I and I promise I promise they will I I won't say I

promise they will I I won't say I promise but 99% there might be 1% chance

promise but 99% there might be 1% chance that they will and that's like one of

that they will and that's like one of those things where doing hard things is

those things where doing hard things is so necessary and I think even if you're

so necessary and I think even if you're 45 I mean what what did Warren Buffett

45 I mean what what did Warren Buffett become a billionaire or or a millionaire

become a billionaire or or a millionaire wasn't like 40 or 50 it took a long time

wasn't like 40 or 50 it took a long time oh let's make fun of his freaking self

oh let's make fun of his freaking self for for why weren't you a millionaire

for for why weren't you a millionaire younger bro like no he's a billionaire

younger bro like no he's a billionaire now like it doesn't matter what time you

now like it doesn't matter what time you start what age you start I think the

start what age you start I think the fact is that not everyone has the

fact is that not everyone has the opportunity to go to a D1 lacrosse

opportunity to go to a D1 lacrosse program on a scholarship and have a dad

program on a scholarship and have a dad push them and care for them that much

push them and care for them that much that he wants to put him in that

that he wants to put him in that scenario where you end up going do those

scenario where you end up going do those things and learn those lessons at 18

things and learn those lessons at 18 it's unrealistic some people do have to

it's unrealistic some people do have to learn Les in adulthood that they should

learn Les in adulthood that they should have learned in childhood and we all do

have learned in childhood and we all do there's a million lessons to learn and

there's a million lessons to learn and it's kind of it is very strange in a

it's kind of it is very strange in a world where we want people to be more

world where we want people to be more resilient there is an odd amount of sort

resilient there is an odd amount of sort of teasing and pity uh and mocking for

of teasing and pity uh and mocking for people that take stuff seriously when

people that take stuff seriously when they get into later life and you go okay

they get into later life and you go okay it's a it's not far off the

it's a it's not far off the developmental equivalent of mocking a

developmental equivalent of mocking a fat person going to the gym y you go the

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speaking of fat person going to the gym you competed recently you got call me a

you competed recently you got call me a fat person before I'm just kidding

fat person before I'm just kidding leaner I was less lean true you competed

leaner I was less lean true you competed yes what was that process like what's it

yes what was that process like what's it feel like to be that lean terrible um so

feel like to be that lean terrible um so I'll I'll explain once again this is

I'll I'll explain once again this is sort of a scenario where it's I tend to

sort of a scenario where it's I tend to do things in a much shorter period of

do things in a much shorter period of time than you're supposed to one because

time than you're supposed to one because it's like a new challenge that I think

it's like a new challenge that I think is different than everyone else's

is different than everyone else's challenge that maybe I just am drawn to

challenge that maybe I just am drawn to but then secondly I think it's it's more

but then secondly I think it's it's more interesting for videos and real life and

interesting for videos and real life and more realistic for me I can't I can't

more realistic for me I can't I can't devote a year to training I could but

devote a year to training I could but like I realistically I got other three

like I realistically I got other three other 90day or three other 30-day videos

other 90day or three other 30-day videos I want to make this year so I can't

I want to make this year so I can't devote a year to training for a marathon

devote a year to training for a marathon I only got 30 days and then when that's

I only got 30 days and then when that's done I got the next 30-day challenge at

done I got the next 30-day challenge at waking up at 5:00 a.m. and you can't do

waking up at 5:00 a.m. and you can't do multiple you can't do multiple at once

multiple you can't do multiple at once unless you want to be [ __ ] so restate

unless you want to be [ __ ] so restate the question sorry what does it feel

the question sorry what does it feel like to be that lean what does it feel

like to be that lean what does it feel like to be that lean so in the process

like to be that lean so in the process of losing that much fat in such a short

of losing that much fat in such a short space of time so you look at like a

space of time so you look at like a bodybuilding prep it's 16 weeks I did

bodybuilding prep it's 16 weeks I did mine in let's say eight I'm always

mine in let's say eight I'm always pretty lean I never really bulk past

pretty lean I never really bulk past like 15% body fat um the first week or

like 15% body fat um the first week or two is you know like you're like all

two is you know like you're like all right it's tough you're doing your

right it's tough you're doing your cardio whatever maybe you're tired but

cardio whatever maybe you're tired but the the last like three weeks um we're

the the last like three weeks um we're so so TI iring and

so so TI iring and like emotionally stealing in a way where

like emotionally stealing in a way where I literally felt nothing like I was a

I literally felt nothing like I was a corpse you could look at him me in the

corpse you could look at him me in the eyes and you could be like you're

eyes and you could be like you're thinking nothing right now you have no

thinking nothing right now you have no emotion and everyone experiences prep

emotion and everyone experiences prep different some people look at it in a

different some people look at it in a very beautiful way and they love seeing

very beautiful way and they love seeing the changes in their body for

the changes in their body for me it was tough seeing the changes like

me it was tough seeing the changes like DED looking back at photos damn I was

DED looking back at photos damn I was shredded but then in the moment it's

shredded but then in the moment it's very odd cuz you look at yourself and

very odd cuz you look at yourself and you pinch the side of your body and I'm

you pinch the side of your body and I'm like I'm not even that lean this is

like I'm not even that lean this is strong I'm so skinny right now like I

strong I'm so skinny right now like I don't look like SE buum I look I look

don't look like SE buum I look I look stupid I'm fat yeah I'm posing and my

stupid I'm fat yeah I'm posing and my legs are my legs aren't even touching

legs are my legs aren't even touching they're so skinny you know it's like you

they're so skinny you know it's like you start really picking at all these

start really picking at all these negative things in your head and if I

negative things in your head and if I wasn't making content around it I think

wasn't making content around it I think that definitely helped keep my mind off

that definitely helped keep my mind off that sort

that sort of dysmorphic thought and it was like

of dysmorphic thought and it was like okay we have a mission here we're making

okay we have a mission here we're making awesome videos at the same time I can

awesome videos at the same time I can focus on that more but it definitely it

focus on that more but it definitely it took a huge toll in my relationship uh I

took a huge toll in my relationship uh I literally like every single emotion I

literally like every single emotion I just didn't have like I couldn't feel

just didn't have like I couldn't feel happy I couldn't feel sad presumably

happy I couldn't feel sad presumably honestly I don't really deal with too

honestly I don't really deal with too much hunger which is like a gift it's

much hunger which is like a gift it's just lack of energy I feel like

just lack of energy I feel like lethargic of of I feel uh like I know my

lethargic of of I feel uh like I know my blood sugar is low what is it

blood sugar is low what is it hypoglycemic I feel very hypoglycemic

hypoglycemic I feel very hypoglycemic all the time and I was like this is just

all the time and I was like this is just brutal just get to the end date the show

brutal just get to the end date the show is a very fun experience it's very

is a very fun experience it's very rewarding it's awesome being on stage

rewarding it's awesome being on stage you you know yelling most muscular

you you know yelling most muscular posing against people awesome experience

posing against people awesome experience highly recommend everybody to do it

highly recommend everybody to do it maybe once uh or at least I think

maybe once uh or at least I think everybody should get pretty lean once to

everybody should get pretty lean once to experience what it's like to one look at

experience what it's like to one look at your best and two really see the

your best and two really see the different type of hard work it takes to

different type of hard work it takes to get to the next level of body

get to the next level of body conditioning because my level and then

conditioning because my level and then there's even so much farther that seab

there's even so much farther that seab buum goes and every other competitor out

buum goes and every other competitor out there I just name him because I feel

there I just name him because I feel like what do you think you got down

like what do you think you got down to uh Greg duet said six per. okay so

to uh Greg duet said six per. okay so even let's say six and a half to be

even let's say six and a half to be friendly yep um pretty lean pretty lean

friendly yep um pretty lean pretty lean and as a natural my hormones were tanked

and as a natural my hormones were tanked like like 200 nanograms test 200 free

like like 200 nanograms test 200 free like oh my god dude thankfully still

like oh my god dude thankfully still works come back still works don't worry

works come back still works don't worry but the feeling of 200 200 test is

but the feeling of 200 200 test is absolutely horrible and that's like one

absolutely horrible and that's like one reason why I just like don't have a

reason why I just like don't have a desire to compete anymore slash for a

desire to compete anymore slash for a very long time what was the hardest part

very long time what was the hardest part of

it I feel like accepting you know what it is the

accepting you know what it is the hardest part is that same anxiety fight

hardest part is that same anxiety fight where these you're like I'm so

where these you're like I'm so uncomfortable and you your body like

uncomfortable and you your body like wants to tense internally and fight this

wants to tense internally and fight this uncomfortability feeling rather than

uncomfortability feeling rather than sympathetically activated yeah rather

sympathetically activated yeah rather than just like let's like I've talked to

than just like let's like I've talked to Chris about this recently and he was

Chris about this recently and he was like you have to just know that this is

like you have to just know that this is your choice you can stop if want and he

your choice you can stop if want and he it almost I feel like he has that like

it almost I feel like he has that like where he can turn that that internal

where he can turn that that internal battle against it and a lot of other

battle against it and a lot of other successful bodybuilders have that

successful bodybuilders have that ability I haven't learned it yet it's

ability I haven't learned it yet it's the same as you were saying I've got to

the same as you were saying I've got to get up at 6:00 in the morning I've got

get up at 6:00 in the morning I've got to get up at 6: in the morning as

to get up at 6: in the morning as opposed to happening I'm just going to

opposed to happening I'm just going to get up yeah exactly yeah it's so funny

get up yeah exactly yeah it's so funny man I think it's it's cool to see

man I think it's it's cool to see uh you're like an elite normal you know

uh you're like an elite normal you know what I mean you're kind of a

what I mean you're kind of a representation for

representation for nobody looks and goes SE buum genetic

nobody looks and goes SE buum genetic freak once in a generation bodybuilder

freak once in a generation bodybuilder with fantastic background and the

with fantastic background and the perfect nutrition and a little bit of

perfect nutrition and a little bit of hormonal help and all the rest of it so

hormonal help and all the rest of it so when I ask him he's on the show this

when I ask him he's on the show this week when I speak to him about what prep

week when I speak to him about what prep feels like what theory of Mind have I

feels like what theory of Mind have I got to know what it's like to be Cris

got to know what it's like to be Cris Bumstead the body none but I feel like

Bumstead the body none but I feel like you're just Elite normal you're just

you're just Elite normal you're just that's a great way to put it dude we got

that's a great way to put it dude we got we got to take my team's behind there we

we got to take my team's behind there we got to take notes and that's gonna help

got to take notes and that's gonna help gonna help like ideas the best of the

gonna help like ideas the best of the normies Because if you think about it

normies Because if you think about it it's like that's kind like I did an

it's like that's kind like I did an elite normal thing the marathon Elite

elite normal thing the marathon Elite normal thing wake up at 5:00 a.m. for 30

normal thing wake up at 5:00 a.m. for 30 days there's not really that much Elite

days there's not really that much Elite that's more normal um cult plunge every

that's more normal um cult plunge every day having a kid yeah or or we had a

day having a kid yeah or or we had a puppy in the same thing yep but uh yeah

puppy in the same thing yep but uh yeah I think I think another experience that

I think I think another experience that really stands out to me this is kind of

really stands out to me this is kind of tangent but an experience I want to talk

tangent but an experience I want to talk about that truly changed my life with

about that truly changed my life with with whm Hoff and that was oh my God

with whm Hoff and that was oh my God that was such like a magical experience

that was such like a magical experience doing that in person because we know

doing that in person because we know what the Wim Hoff method does I'm sure

what the Wim Hoff method does I'm sure have you ever done the the breathing

have you ever done the the breathing yeah yeah of course so we know we know

yeah yeah of course so we know we know how good that Brea that breath work

how good that Brea that breath work feels the ice bath you get endorphins

feels the ice bath you get endorphins but imagine doing it with the dude

but imagine doing it with the dude that's like the the creator of it almost

that's like the the creator of it almost you know what I mean and kindest person

you know what I mean and kindest person really I felt so like safe with him and

really I felt so like safe with him and I come in first thing we do he's like

I come in first thing we do he's like let's Finland uh uh nether Netherlands

let's Finland uh uh nether Netherlands Netherlands they're all I'm like sh

Netherlands they're all I'm like sh where have I been whole area I shouldn't

where have I been whole area I shouldn't say that there's loads of people that

say that there's loads of people that listen in Finland uh but did he do that

listen in Finland uh but did he do that thing where you have to penguin dive off

thing where you have to penguin dive off the he he did it I didn't I was like

the he he did it I didn't I was like that's a little extreme that water is

that's a little extreme that water is got to be like

got to be like 31.9 degrees Fahrenheit um but yeah we

31.9 degrees Fahrenheit um but yeah we first thing he does dive in the cold

first thing he does dive in the cold water I'm like oh my God and I'm like a

water I'm like oh my God and I'm like a I'm a little familiar I've been taking

I'm a little familiar I've been taking cold showers to prepare for this video

cold showers to prepare for this video and I'm like all right we're in it let's

and I'm like all right we're in it let's go and then we do we do some ABS we do

go and then we do we do some ABS we do some breath work and when I want to talk

some breath work and when I want to talk about the breath work because that was

about the breath work because that was the most like Spiritual Awakening moment

the most like Spiritual Awakening moment I've ever had in my life he does four

I've ever had in my life he does four three four rounds of breath work one

three four rounds of breath work one minute one and a half two two and a half

minute one and a half two two and a half three and you hold your breath for those

three and you hold your breath for those lengths of period the time period that I

lengths of period the time period that I just mentioned and we get to the second

just mentioned and we get to the second to last round and I'm at two two and a

to last round and I'm at two two and a half I'm feeling so safe with him and

half I'm feeling so safe with him and I'm like you know I'm just going to I'm

I'm like you know I'm just going to I'm just going to like not fight it and you

just going to like not fight it and you could that anxiety about this but just

could that anxiety about this but just I'm I'm here let's make it happen hold

I'm I'm here let's make it happen hold my breath two and a half minutes go by

my breath two and a half minutes go by that man on the dot my sister was there

that man on the dot my sister was there timing uh the the two and a half on the

timing uh the the two and a half on the dot he goes and time and my sister's

dot he goes and time and my sister's like on the like she didn't even say

like on the like she didn't even say anything it was two 2 29.9 and it was

anything it was two 2 29.9 and it was like this dude another level and then we

like this dude another level and then we do the three minute and I hold my breath

do the three minute and I hold my breath for 3 minutes straight it feels like 30

for 3 minutes straight it feels like 30 seconds it flies by I open my eyes and I

seconds it flies by I open my eyes and I have just this insane euphoric feeling I

have just this insane euphoric feeling I don't know if I was dying and maybe

don't know if I was dying and maybe that's what you're supposed to feel when

that's what you're supposed to feel when you die I have this insane euphoric

you die I have this insane euphoric feeling I open my eyes I see my sister I

feeling I open my eyes I see my sister I have my cameraman I have whim and like

have my cameraman I have whim and like the this this feeling of just purity of

the this this feeling of just purity of love and I'm just like gratitude and

love and I'm just like gratitude and nothing else mattered it was like it was

nothing else mattered it was like it was almost like I was like born into this

almost like I was like born into this exact moment and I knew nothing about

exact moment and I knew nothing about the universe and it was just how you're

the universe and it was just how you're supposed to feel it's crazy and that was

supposed to feel it's crazy and that was a very life-changing moment I've done

a very life-changing moment I've done the breathing a few times since then I

the breathing a few times since then I probably need to get back into it um but

probably need to get back into it um but that in the ice bath like the man's on

that in the ice bath like the man's on to something and I don't know what

to something and I don't know what happened inside my brain but that was

happened inside my brain but that was the most content and like happy feeling

the most content and like happy feeling like a different type of happy it was

like a different type of happy it was just I had to share that it was a crazy

just I had to share that it was a crazy experience it really does clear your

experience it really does clear your mind in a crazy way if you do some

mind in a crazy way if you do some forced breath work Wim Hof breathing

forced breath work Wim Hof breathing whatever you want to call it uh the last

whatever you want to call it uh the last time have you ever done it and passed

time have you ever done it and passed out no I've seen people okay so I've

out no I've seen people okay so I've I've pushed it a little bit hard in a

I've pushed it a little bit hard in a couple of breath work classes in Austin

couple of breath work classes in Austin and um you sort of come back around and

and um you sort of come back around and you've got whoever the facilitator is

you've got whoever the facilitator is with that hand on your chest sort of

with that hand on your chest sort of chilling you out and they do something

chilling you out and they do something with your neck maybe it's to do with

with your neck maybe it's to do with your nerve here or or the blood flow

your nerve here or or the blood flow here I'm not really too sure uh but I

here I'm not really too sure uh but I always see the same [ __ ] cat every

always see the same [ __ ] cat every time I do it this [ __ ] cat pops up

time I do it this [ __ ] cat pops up it's just this face looking at me I

it's just this face looking at me I don't know what's I don't know that's

don't know what's I don't know that's the DMT being released in your brain

the DMT being released in your brain maybe it is um would you are you ever

maybe it is um would you are you ever going to Pivot into psychedelic bro era

going to Pivot into psychedelic bro era I I did iar every day I haven't oh I did

I I did iar every day I haven't oh I did I that's Conor Murphy right there yeah

I that's Conor Murphy right there yeah well exactly drinking Seaman so I

well exactly drinking Seaman so I haven't tried that yet so psychedelics I

haven't tried that yet so psychedelics I have friends that have done it um have

have friends that have done it um have people that are close to my life that

people that are close to my life that have done it and no judgment whatsoever

have done it and no judgment whatsoever cool do whatever you want for me I feel

cool do whatever you want for me I feel that I almost have uh a little bit of an

that I almost have uh a little bit of an enlightened mindset as is that I feel

enlightened mindset as is that I feel like I've awakened from reaching a point

like I've awakened from reaching a point of Peace when I left Lehi in 2018 when I

of Peace when I left Lehi in 2018 when I was 18 years old and I quit I had this

was 18 years old and I quit I had this like

like super spiritual awakening moment where I

super spiritual awakening moment where I could not describe it but I could like

could not describe it but I could like sense your energy in like the most pure

sense your energy in like the most pure way I'm like you are full like I don't

way I'm like you are full like I don't couldn't just I don't know what language

couldn't just I don't know what language I needed to speak it but I'm like you're

I needed to speak it but I'm like you're full you're half you're like I I sounded

full you're half you're like I I sounded I thought I was [ __ ] crazy dude I

I thought I was [ __ ] crazy dude I probably was and I feel like I that sort

probably was and I feel like I that sort of opened my mind and like well maybe

of opened my mind and like well maybe maybe the mind is is capable of just

maybe the mind is is capable of just naturally experiencing all these crazy

naturally experiencing all these crazy phenomenon things and I feel like I also

phenomenon things and I feel like I also have this this undoubtedly belief in

have this this undoubtedly belief in myself that maybe a psychedelic would

myself that maybe a psychedelic would open up for somebody else and like

open up for somebody else and like gratitude like they' open up and I I

gratitude like they' open up and I I feel like I have a good base of that and

feel like I have a good base of that and I don't want to [ __ ] with it so that's

I don't want to [ __ ] with it so that's like my mindset of same the ssris in

like my mindset of same the ssris in exactly it's like my mind I'm I'm happy

exactly it's like my mind I'm I'm happy I love my life like beautiful fiance

I love my life like beautiful fiance family's healthy got a dog got a house

family's healthy got a dog got a house like my life is awesome I I truly am

like my life is awesome I I truly am grateful my fans are amazing they

grateful my fans are amazing they support me all that stuff so it's like

support me all that stuff so it's like one of those things where it's like if I

one of those things where it's like if I do

do this there's a chance that it goes there

this there's a chance that it goes there there's always I've you've hear the

there's always I've you've hear the horror stories of it going south and I'm

horror stories of it going south and I'm like why would I mess this up

like why would I mess this up everything's Gooding so high if I if I

everything's Gooding so high if I if I find a need where I need an Awakening

find a need where I need an Awakening I don't know maybe but like I also like

I don't know maybe but like I also like I've literally never done anything

I've literally never done anything stronger than smoking pot when I was

stronger than smoking pot when I was like a teenager like once and I've never

like a teenager like once and I've never done any any brain type of never touched

done any any brain type of never touched ad all never done cocaine nothing at all

ad all never done cocaine nothing at all I probably will die never doing it which

I probably will die never doing it which I'm fine with but I just I'm very like

I'm fine with but I just I'm very like protective of where my mind is and the

protective of where my mind is and the trajectory of how my mind develops

trajectory of how my mind develops naturally and stuff where I'm like I

naturally and stuff where I'm like I don't need I don't need something to

don't need I don't need something to alter to I don't need more I'm now I'm

alter to I don't need more I'm now I'm already I'm on that ride on my own I

already I'm on that ride on my own I don't need that kick maybe I'm maybe I'm

don't need that kick maybe I'm maybe I'm maybe I'd be a billionaire if I took

maybe I'd be a billionaire if I took something crazy [ __ ] you know or maybe

something crazy [ __ ] you know or maybe you'll turn into Conor Murphy and have a

you'll turn into Conor Murphy and have a it's one of those things you don't want

it's one of those things you don't want to risk you a total breakdown yeah just

to risk you a total breakdown yeah just going back to the uh getting lean thing

going back to the uh getting lean thing there was this news article I saw

there was this news article I saw recently YouTube is to limit

recently YouTube is to limit recommendations of certain health and

recommendations of certain health and fitness videos to teenagers including

fitness videos to teenagers including those which may idealize certain body

those which may idealize certain body types it says 13 to 17y Old users will

types it says 13 to 17y Old users will still will be able to search for and

still will be able to search for and view Fitness related content but will

view Fitness related content but will not be encouraged into repeated viewing

not be encouraged into repeated viewing of similar videos YouTube says it is

of similar videos YouTube says it is acting because of concerns that repeated

acting because of concerns that repeated exposure to such material can lead young

exposure to such material can lead young people to develop negative beliefs about

people to develop negative beliefs about themselves the platform says this will

themselves the platform says this will no longer be offered for teens when they

no longer be offered for teens when they can view certain types of content

can view certain types of content including videos that compare physical

including videos that compare physical features and idealizes some types over

features and idealizes some types over others videos idealizing specific

others videos idealizing specific Fitness levels or body weights videos

Fitness levels or body weights videos displaying social aggression in the form

displaying social aggression in the form of non-con fights and intimidation the

of non-con fights and intimidation the measures were being taken after its

measures were being taken after its Youth and fam's advisory committee found

Youth and fam's advisory committee found that teens are more likely than adults

that teens are more likely than adults to form negative beliefs about

to form negative beliefs about themselves when seeing repeated messages

themselves when seeing repeated messages about ideal standards in content they

about ideal standards in content they consume online what do you think of that

consume online what do you think of that I think it's very stupid because and if

I think it's very stupid because and if YouTube's watching I love you guys as a

YouTube's watching I love you guys as a platform but this is dumb because think

platform but this is dumb because think about it like this okay Fitness might

about it like this okay Fitness might influence a teenager to do steroids

influence a teenager to do steroids let's say I have a video coming out on

let's say I have a video coming out on that um but

that um but the music videos that are dudes swinging

the music videos that are dudes swinging guns or I don't know idolizing weird

guns or I don't know idolizing weird things that like there's always

things that like there's always conspiracy behind like crazy you know

conspiracy behind like crazy you know music videos and stuff and I don't care

music videos and stuff and I don't care what it looks like but that can just as

what it looks like but that can just as well influence a teenager to go try

well influence a teenager to go try smoking pot or go hang out with the

smoking pot or go hang out with the wrong crowd or something like that you

wrong crowd or something like that you could be influenced by literally

could be influenced by literally anything and also I think this is why I

anything and also I think this is why I don't think it's going to happen because

don't think it's going to happen because the amount of money that Fitness cpms in

the amount of money that Fitness cpms in in in Fitness are are well they're not

in in Fitness are are well they're not the the best but they are probably one

the the best but they are probably one of the top they're not Tech Finance

of the top they're not Tech Finance they're not te Finance but they're right

they're not te Finance but they're right there dude like right below it on on the

there dude like right below it on on the next year so many supplement cpgs

next year so many supplement cpgs exactly so YouTube we shooting

exactly so YouTube we shooting themselves in the foot because there's

themselves in the foot because there's so much content that's just good I

so much content that's just good I wonder how much uh is derived from 13 17

wonder how much uh is derived from 13 17 year olds age brackets a l good point or

year olds age brackets a l good point or uh everyone's just going to lie about

uh everyone's just going to lie about their age and nothing's going to change

their age and nothing's going to change and they're going to make new accounts I

and they're going to make new accounts I do think you're right that I think the

do think you're right that I think the advertising is way too they're way too

advertising is way too they're way too uh lucrative on advertising on these

uh lucrative on advertising on these videos I get I mean dude I'm getting

videos I get I mean dude I'm getting like five million views 1 million to

like five million views 1 million to five million views on every video you're

five million views on every video you're going to cut my ads good good for you

going to cut my ads good good for you you're going to make no money I'm G to

you're going to make no money I'm G to go freaking start a patreon yeah yeah

go freaking start a patreon yeah yeah the negative beliefs thing seems odd

the negative beliefs thing seems odd given that we just went through a body

given that we just went through a body positivity movement that was glorifying

positivity movement that was glorifying people being big so it's okay so not

people being big so it's okay so not only are we glorifying fat people we're

only are we glorifying fat people we're also now limiting your ability to see

also now limiting your ability to see people who might actually be fit I mean

people who might actually be fit I mean think about just think about the entire

think about just think about the entire generation mine into yours you you I was

generation mine into yours you you I was the start of it with sort of um ziz Matt

the start of it with sort of um ziz Matt ogus then bleeding down I guess into the

ogus then bleeding down I guess into the mat's fitness the sort of Mike thst type

mat's fitness the sort of Mike thst type stuff now into your era

stuff now into your era MH all of us were brought into this

MH all of us were brought into this because of you the weird thing is is

because of you the weird thing is is that one I've asked my YouTube rep like

that one I've asked my YouTube rep like I'm like please tell me this is this is

I'm like please tell me this is this is false and he's like oh so you brought

false and he's like oh so you brought this up I I straight up sent it to

this up I I straight up sent it to YouTube one of the employees and I was

YouTube one of the employees and I was like there's no way this is true right

like there's no way this is true right like you I'm like and if you if it

like you I'm like and if you if it becomes true you need to tell me ASAP um

becomes true you need to tell me ASAP um he didn't think it's like real he was

he didn't think it's like real he was like he said first thing he said was cap

like he said first thing he said was cap and then I was like okay what color hat

and then I was like okay what color hat I'm kidding that's stupid joke um and so

I'm kidding that's stupid joke um and so he says like he thinks that and then I

he says like he thinks that and then I sent I sent him that article that you

sent I sent him that article that you just read and I'm like are you sure and

just read and I'm like are you sure and he's like I just I don't know he's like

he's like I just I don't know he's like it just sounds like it wouldn't be like

it just sounds like it wouldn't be like like plausible but hypothetically let's

like plausible but hypothetically let's say it does this is what's going to

say it does this is what's going to happen in the fitness industry there's

happen in the fitness industry there's going to be a huge divide of people that

going to be a huge divide of people that I don't want to say that they're not

I don't want to say that they're not intelligent enough but they're not let's

intelligent enough but they're not let's say social networking aware enough to

say social networking aware enough to adapt to be able to bypass it they're

adapt to be able to bypass it they're they're going to be like ah [ __ ] this

they're going to be like ah [ __ ] this I'm going to keep doing what I want and

I'm going to keep doing what I want and they just going to hurt themselves it's

they just going to hurt themselves it's a really dumb mindset how many people

a really dumb mindset how many people that are 13 to 17 are watching your

that are 13 to 17 are watching your videos dude as I get bigger it's getting

videos dude as I get bigger it's getting more and more interesting there's like

more and more interesting there's like kids I'll be at the grocery store and

kids I'll be at the grocery store and they're like you see you on Tik Tok and

they're like you see you on Tik Tok and stuff and I'm like all right I'm

stuff and I'm like all right I'm watching I'm like what videoos you

watching I'm like what videoos you watching bro

watching bro skinny but it's like one of those things

skinny but it's like one of those things where one I find it hard to believe

where one I find it hard to believe that'll happen and if it does I have the

that'll happen and if it does I have the unbelievable un I have the the

unbelievable un I have the the believability in myself that it's like

believability in myself that it's like I'm good I'll pivot bro yeah come at me

I'm good I'll pivot bro yeah come at me I I don't know how big your uh 13 to 17

I I don't know how big your uh 13 to 17 year old fan base is um but I I don't

year old fan base is um but I I don't know I it's a an

know I it's a an interesting it's an interesting

interesting it's an interesting challenge because I would have been very

challenge because I would have been very uh I would have been very disempowered I

uh I would have been very disempowered I think you know watching YouTube and and

think you know watching YouTube and and seeing Fitness advice from the

seeing Fitness advice from the Internet it's also it's such woolly

Internet it's also it's such woolly language what are you going to do like

language what are you going to do like Jeff nippard like is Jeff nippard GNA be

Jeff nippard like is Jeff nippard GNA be censored evidence-based lifting saying

censored evidence-based lifting saying that it's like okay then in every video

that it's like okay then in every video I'm just going to feature I'm going to

I'm just going to feature I'm going to call a doctor and say this is evidence

call a doctor and say this is evidence right yes thank you there check send in

right yes thank you there check send in for riew again there's going to be if

for riew again there's going to be if there's a rule there's a way around it

there's a rule there's a way around it that's how I see it what you've done a

that's how I see it what you've done a million videos with Ronnie Coleman

million videos with Ronnie Coleman yes I get sad when I see him okay I I

yes I get sad when I see him okay I I mean I know he's still got the sort of

mean I know he's still got the sort of yeah buddy thing but he's also largely a

yeah buddy thing but he's also largely a man that's crippled yeah you know is it

man that's crippled yeah you know is it tough being around him it was something

tough being around him it was something definitely like to get used to at first

definitely like to get used to at first because I've shot five videos with him

because I've shot five videos with him total so I'm with him you know and I I

total so I'm with him you know and I I was with young La before jym shark and I

was with young La before jym shark and I would to be events with him always love

would to be events with him always love seeing him um there's been a few times

seeing him um there's been a few times where it's been like genuinely like I

where it's been like genuinely like I felt I felt very bad um and the few

felt I felt very bad um and the few times where it's like I completely

times where it's like I completely forget and I think almost he's

forget and I think almost he's forgetting he's just like have he's just

forgetting he's just like have he's just Ronnie you know he's very authentic

Ronnie you know he's very authentic which is awesome I have a blast with him

which is awesome I have a blast with him every time I see him uh the one time

every time I see him uh the one time where I was like damn bro this is like

where I was like damn bro this is like kind of brutal like to see because I

kind of brutal like to see because I mean he's a legend he was obviously not

mean he's a legend he was obviously not [ __ ] at one point and fully th

[ __ ] at one point and fully th driving

driving and it was when it was when we were at

and it was when it was when we were at uh his gym in Texas in Dallas Metroflex

uh his gym in Texas in Dallas Metroflex Arlington and the the equipment is so

Arlington and the the equipment is so damn congested there and he trains it

damn congested there and he trains it all the time so clearly he like does not

all the time so clearly he like does not mind but his his inability to maneuver

mind but his his inability to maneuver from just like one area to the next and

from just like one area to the next and everybody's like pausing W exactly

everybody's like pausing W exactly disabled access oh not at all it was

disabled access oh not at all it was like horrible setup for him but like

like horrible setup for him but like obviously he it's home be so he feels

obviously he it's home be so he feels good but it was like I like like do you

good but it was like I like like do you do you do you want to help him do you

do you do you want to help him do you want to like hey you need help get is it

want to like hey you need help get is it patronizing exactly I don't want I don't

patronizing exactly I don't want I don't want to feel I always my biggest thing

want to feel I always my biggest thing with anybody I'm ever with I don't care

with anybody I'm ever with I don't care if you're [ __ ] Dwayne The Rock

if you're [ __ ] Dwayne The Rock Johnson or Joe Schmo down the street I

Johnson or Joe Schmo down the street I always go into my shoot or like meeting

always go into my shoot or like meeting people with just like what's up bro like

people with just like what's up bro like there's no like no difference because I

there's no like no difference because I no I I don't I don't want anyone to ever

no I I don't I don't want anyone to ever feel like I look at them in a certain

feel like I look at them in a certain way or I'm I'm idolizing over idolizing

way or I'm I'm idolizing over idolizing them and that bothers them everyone

them and that bothers them everyone idolizes me whatever like you know what

idolizes me whatever like you know what I mean so I wish just he's Ronnie he's a

I mean so I wish just he's Ronnie he's a dude you know whatever so I I don't want

dude you know whatever so I I don't want to push boundaries too far and then one

to push boundaries too far and then one time another time we were on a boat and

time another time we were on a boat and stuff we're on a yacht it was Ronnie's

stuff we're on a yacht it was Ronnie's [ __ ] yacht in Dubai he was just

[ __ ] yacht in Dubai he was just chilling downstairs and he was very

chilling downstairs and he was very content and I was like Ronnie you want

content and I was like Ronnie you want anything very chill chilling and I'm

anything very chill chilling and I'm obviously I don't know what's going

obviously I don't know what's going through his head and it's one of those

through his head and it's one of those things like you know back in the day

things like you know back in the day maybe he'd be up there [ __ ] fist

maybe he'd be up there [ __ ] fist pumping and [ __ ] he was always like a

pumping and [ __ ] he was always like a very extroverted person still is to a

very extroverted person still is to a degree but I think it's one of those

degree but I think it's one of those things where

things where he when you talk to him uh and you talk

he when you talk to him uh and you talk to him out you have any I asked him do

to him out you have any I asked him do you have any regrets any regrets in like

you have any regrets any regrets in like what you've done and he's like no no

what you've done and he's like no no reget you think that's

reget you think that's true I mean his he tells me his only

true I mean his he tells me his only regret is that he didn't go for seven or

regret is that he didn't go for seven or eight reps on his 800 lb Squat and then

eight reps on his 800 lb Squat and then he says yeah buddy and I'm like I

he says yeah buddy and I'm like I believe it but I think maybe you never

believe it but I think maybe you never know you know I think you should have

know you know I think you should have how much pain is he in day today do you

how much pain is he in day today do you know I've heard many things I just I

know I've heard many things I just I don't know yeah because I'd heard that

don't know yeah because I'd heard that he said my pain is always at 8 out of 10

he said my pain is always at 8 out of 10 and I take the maximum dose of whatever

and I take the maximum dose of whatever that painkiller is that's super super

that painkiller is that's super super strong he's doing a lot of stem cells

strong he's doing a lot of stem cells okay and he says with every treatment it

okay and he says with every treatment it gets better and better and better look

gets better and better and better look good so you know yeah it's uh it is it

good so you know yeah it's uh it is it is uncomfortable to see dude uh and it's

is uncomfortable to see dude uh and it's so odd as well because you've got Jay

so odd as well because you've got Jay Cutler who is as far as I can tell just

Cutler who is as far as I can tell just perfectly functional we were with Phil

perfectly functional we were with Phil talk him about with Phil Heath today

talk him about with Phil Heath today Phil Heath's healthy again you get

Phil Heath's healthy again you get playing basketball [ __ ] around so I

playing basketball [ __ ] around so I think that's the importance of realizing

think that's the importance of realizing I mean right now I have a slip disc in

I mean right now I have a slip disc in my back and like in a I'm not able to

my back and like in a I'm not able to squat not I I could if I like gun in my

squat not I I could if I like gun in my head but like shouldn't squat shouldn't

head but like shouldn't squat shouldn't deadlift all that stuff yeah uh but it's

deadlift all that stuff yeah uh but it's those type of things where you know when

those type of things where you know when people say like careful squatting

people say like careful squatting careful deadlifting you're going to mess

careful deadlifting you're going to mess up your knees you're going to mess up

up your knees you're going to mess up your back and you're like no I'm fine

your back and you're like no I'm fine I'm fine I'm Invincible until you wake

I'm fine I'm Invincible until you wake up and you're like [ __ ] that hurt I just

up and you're like [ __ ] that hurt I just I broke some of your got be care back

I broke some of your got be care back and knees man backs and knees are two

and knees man backs and knees are two things that you just got to

things that you just got to be super super sensitive with uh you

be super super sensitive with uh you know the the end of my hardcore Fitness

know the the end of my hardcore Fitness career was two bulging discs in my back

career was two bulging discs in my back really and then I just thought right

really and then I just thought right okay I'm it took it was uncomfortable

okay I'm it took it was uncomfortable for maybe three or four years for me to

for maybe three or four years for me to realize okay you can't do what you used

realize okay you can't do what you used to do responsibly you can do it but

to do responsibly you can do it but you're just rolling you do did what you

you're just rolling you do did what you do to fix it just stop doing things like

do to fix it just stop doing things like that uh so Stu Mill's big three heard

that uh so Stu Mill's big three heard that yep so you should speak to Stu

that yep so you should speak to Stu about back about back pain I can intro

about back about back pain I can intro you if you want he'd love to speak to

you if you want he'd love to speak to you um he is the number one lower back

you um he is the number one lower back pain specialist on the planet uh he's

pain specialist on the planet uh he's done a lot of the studies the original

done a lot of the studies the original studies at waterl that much of sort of

studies at waterl that much of sort of back pain science was built on I get the

back pain science was built on I get the sense that the field is continuing to

sense that the field is continuing to progress now uh I I haven't spoken to

progress now uh I I haven't spoken to him about my stuff in a little while

him about my stuff in a little while tapped into him before I went and did

tapped into him before I went and did stem cell in medine last year I was just

stem cell in medine last year I was just about to ask you have you ever done stem

about to ask you have you ever done stem cells I did stem cells experience like

cells I did stem cells experience like bio accelerator uh okay I know them so

bio accelerator uh okay I know them so Columbia yep yep Medan

Columbia yep yep Medan um psychologically neutral quite an

um psychologically neutral quite an enjoyable experience the service is very

enjoyable experience the service is very good physically very rough uh really so

good physically very rough uh really so for me because I got sight injections so

for me because I got sight injections so I had uh intra articular into the

I had uh intra articular into the shoulder capsule and my rotator cuff

shoulder capsule and my rotator cuff there's no anesthetic um into the quad

there's no anesthetic um into the quad tendon above and below the patella uh

tendon above and below the patella uh and then into my achilles that I

and then into my achilles that I ruptured straight into the tendon uh so

ruptured straight into the tendon uh so the ones that I got I got every Lumber

the ones that I got I got every Lumber Facet Joint down my back I got one

Facet Joint down my back I got one intradiscal injection into one of the

intradiscal injection into one of the bulging discs one of them was so bad

bulging discs one of them was so bad that they couldn't they weren't even

that they couldn't they weren't even prepared to do it the other one they did

prepared to do it the other one they did but you're under general anesthetic for

but you're under general anesthetic for that so you just go to sleep you wake up

that so you just go to sleep you wake up and you're like oh sweet that's all been

and you're like oh sweet that's all been done but the uh ones in my knee and the

done but the uh ones in my knee and the not the one in my shoulder was maybe an

not the one in my shoulder was maybe an eight out of 10 paint the one in my knee

eight out of 10 paint the one in my knee bouncing off the bed screaming the nurse

bouncing off the bed screaming the nurse left this nurse who's conditioned at

left this nurse who's conditioned at seeing this stuff cuz it's it's a tiny

seeing this stuff cuz it's it's a tiny little tendon like that that this guy is

little tendon like that that this guy is trying to fit viscous fluid into yeah

trying to fit viscous fluid into yeah and you think oh at least at least

and you think oh at least at least that's the pain over and done with and

that's the pain over and done with and then the inflammation response comes

then the inflammation response comes yeah and it is I had to walk like the

yeah and it is I had to walk like the Tin Man out of uh [ __ ] whatever that

Tin Man out of uh [ __ ] whatever that movie is and I can't bend my

movie is and I can't bend my knees oh for days I was there do you

knees oh for days I was there do you know Jermaine Sterling he was the

know Jermaine Sterling he was the bantamweight or flyweight whatever the

bantamweight or flyweight whatever the super lightweight uh thing in the UFC uh

super lightweight uh thing in the UFC uh he was the champion and he got his

he was the champion and he got his wrists done when he was there he got his

wrists done when he was there he got his neck and his wrists done so he was my

neck and his wrists done so he was my lab partner my clinic partner for the

lab partner my clinic partner for the week yeah he his wrists hurt so much he

week yeah he his wrists hurt so much he couldn't pick up a phone oh so the

couldn't pick up a phone oh so the weight of a phone was so much that it it

weight of a phone was so much that it it caused his pain his wrists to me a ton

caused his pain his wrists to me a ton of pain so

of pain so basically pretty uncomfortable but it's

basically pretty uncomfortable but it's a unique category of pain because you

a unique category of pain because you know that it's in service of making you

know that it's in service of making you better so almost all pain you put your

better so almost all pain you put your hand over a flame and you know that

hand over a flame and you know that you're going to need a skin graft you

you're going to need a skin graft you break your leg and you wonder whether or

break your leg and you wonder whether or not you're going to ever be able to walk

not you're going to ever be able to walk the same again but this pain you as long

the same again but this pain you as long as you have faith in the doctors which I

as you have faith in the doctors which I did you go this is kind of like the

did you go this is kind of like the suffering that you go through before

suffering that you go through before something great happens on the other

something great happens on the other side of it so again you know one of the

side of it so again you know one of the themes today has being story that you

themes today has being story that you tell yourself largely determines your

tell yourself largely determines your experience of the thing that you're

experience of the thing that you're going through so the story I'm telling

going through so the story I'm telling myself is I'm screaming bouncing off

myself is I'm screaming bouncing off this bed but there was no fear it wasn't

this bed but there was no fear it wasn't wrapped in Terror or worry or anxiety

wrapped in Terror or worry or anxiety it's just straight pain I'm all right

it's just straight pain I'm all right I'll I'll shout and scream call the

I'll I'll shout and scream call the doctor a couple of names uh so that was

doctor a couple of names uh so that was interesting for me stum gills big three

interesting for me stum gills big three I did for a long time I mean I've done

I did for a long time I mean I've done thousands of hours of that one routine

thousands of hours of that one routine that he came up with I've done it around

that he came up with I've done it around the world I've done it on a paddle board

the world I've done it on a paddle board I've done it in hotel rooms I've done it

I've done it in hotel rooms I've done it in my home done it everywhere I can show

in my home done it everywhere I can show you um so that's helped and then his

you um so that's helped and then his main thing is he causes people advises

main thing is he causes people advises people to keep a neutral spine so he

people to keep a neutral spine so he calls it spinal hygiene so the book is a

calls it spinal hygiene so the book is a back mechanic by stew um it's a little

back mechanic by stew um it's a little bit expensive it's about 50 60 bucks but

bit expensive it's about 50 60 bucks but it's really good and um in it what he's

it's really good and um in it what he's advising is don't bend at the waist when

advising is don't bend at the waist when you need to tie your shoes if you're

you need to tie your shoes if you're brushing your teeth uh at the Basin most

brushing your teeth uh at the Basin most people just

people just hinge from the hips but you can actually

hinge from the hips but you can actually support by having one hand to brush your

support by having one hand to brush your teeth and the other can actually be

teeth and the other can actually be relieving a little bit of the weight by

relieving a little bit of the weight by putting your hand on your thigh or

putting your hand on your thigh or putting your hand on the Basin and he's

putting your hand on the Basin and he's gotten advice for how you get up and get

gotten advice for how you get up and get down off the ground without going into

down off the ground without going into spinal flexion so the whole goal is to

spinal flexion so the whole goal is to just get your back to chill out wow um

just get your back to chill out wow um but it's a very especially if you had

but it's a very especially if you had did you have a fallen back attack was it

did you have a fallen back attack was it a slip disc where you were locked in

a slip disc where you were locked in place no no okay I like woke up and just

place no no okay I like woke up and just like could not been backwards okay so if

like could not been backwards okay so if you even going through that

you even going through that his uh suggested protocol is just so

his uh suggested protocol is just so slow and and kind of frustrating but now

slow and and kind of frustrating but now I have no pain I can sit and stand for

I have no pain I can sit and stand for as long as I want I don't deadlift but

as long as I want I don't deadlift but step-ups lunges reverse lunges walking

step-ups lunges reverse lunges walking lunges leg press uh all of that is fine

lunges leg press uh all of that is fine and I'm sure I probably could squat if I

and I'm sure I probably could squat if I wanted I just think uh I think I can

wanted I just think uh I think I can achieve I think I can achieve the same

achieve I think I can achieve the same gains without doing that so yeah I I

gains without doing that so yeah I I pivot one of the other things I was

pivot one of the other things I was interested in asking you you've worked

interested in asking you you've worked out with a variety of uh non- typically

out with a variety of uh non- typically fit people like okay inmates and gang

fit people like okay inmates and gang members and stuff like that yeah who are

members and stuff like that yeah who are some of the sort of secret fittest guys

some of the sort of secret fittest guys that you've been around that you

that you've been around that you wouldn't have thought of construction

wouldn't have thought of construction workers right dude I mean I found the

workers right dude I mean I found the strongest ones that exist basically

strongest ones that exist basically where do you find strong construction

where do you find strong construction workers ah you hire a really good

workers ah you hire a really good producer right uh and on Instagram um

producer right uh and on Instagram um they were they do construction and they

they were they do construction and they were freaks of nature definitely uh on

were freaks of nature definitely uh on some sauce definitely not Addie okay I'd

some sauce definitely not Addie okay I'd say another one would be the EXC

say another one would be the EXC convicts I mean that's like

convicts I mean that's like stereotypical they work out a ton they

stereotypical they work out a ton they were very they're they're more just

were very they're they're more just jacked big hands on the construction

jacked big hands on the construction workers I imagine monstrous hands you

workers I imagine monstrous hands you know who's really you know what's really

know who's really you know what's really uh who has really good strength is like

uh who has really good strength is like arm wrestlers at least their arms like

arm wrestlers at least their arms like in like the the the sheer strength of

in like the the the sheer strength of Devin lett's hands I tried to and even

Devin lett's hands I tried to and even David L went against him like two hands

David L went against him like two hands you go dudey you're never getting

you go dudey you're never getting anywhere arm wrestlers are built

anywhere arm wrestlers are built different like their tendons have just

different like their tendons have just like calcified probably from all the

like calcified probably from all the scar tissue I did one arm wrestling

scar tissue I did one arm wrestling competition I could I was walking like a

competition I could I was walking like a T-Rex for like a week cuz I could not

T-Rex for like a week cuz I could not move my arms and for them do hours and

move my arms and for them do hours and hours and hours I can't imagine what

hours and hours I can't imagine what their tendons look like dude that's so

their tendons look like dude that's so cool Jesse James West ladies and

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