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This content explores the evolving landscape of coaching in the age of Artificial Intelligence, emphasizing that AI will augment, not replace, human coaches by handling technical tasks and providing data-driven insights, allowing coaches to focus on deeper human connection, ethical considerations, and transformational growth.
Welcome back everyone. This is an encore
session that we are hosting posts
summit. Our summit ran last week and we
were really excited to have Laura Young
come and talk with us. Unfortunately,
she got sick and so we weren't able to
have her session last week, but we are
back and we are going to meet up with
Lara. I'm going to first give a bit of
an introduction and then we will get
started. Um, so just so everyone knows
who Lara is. Lara Young is the founder
of the Mindset Coach Academy and
co-founder of the ICF Accredited Mindset
Dimensions Report and she has over 30
years experience as a coach, mentor, and
trainer. She's trained hundreds of
coaches through accredited programs and
is pioneering the ethical use of AI and
coaching, which I love to have this
conversation about today. Um, Laura
blends neuroscience, psychology, and NLP
and behavioral science. Laura equips
coaches uh to deliver transformational
results while ensuring technical
supports, technology supports never
replaces the human heart of coaching. So
Laura, welcome. I'm so glad to have this
conversation today and that everyone
gets to tune in live for your session. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Brilliant. All right. So I'd love to
kick off. So today's the format of today
is I'm going to run you through a
presentation and um the idea is that I
want you just always to be keeping in
mind your own coaching business or
whatever business you have um and think
about the application because this is
really about thinking about AI and the
future of coaching. So it's really
getting us to explore those concepts. So
before we do begin, I'd love to know
what role you play. So, some of you may
be coaches, consultants, therapists,
mentors. Some of you may see yourself as
hybrids of of those, or you may see
yourself as none of those things, but
I'd love just to know in the chat what
best describes you, just so we get a bit
of a a litmus test of of what role that
you're currently playing. Um, and who's
in the room because even though this is
about the future of coaching with AI,
very strongly has an application no
matter which one of these roles that you
actually play. Okay. So, um, you know,
and I want you to be thinking with that
hat on. And the next question I have for
you is when you think about the future
of coaching with AI, what word or
feeling comes up for you? I spend a lot
of time with coaches and consultants and
therapists and you know, there's lots of
different emotions in the industry about
AI and the potential, but also maybe the
risk of AI. So is there anything that
comes up for you specifically when you
think about um AI and coaching and the
future? Um so automated speeds and ease.
Great. Okay. Excellent. So to do with
automation, streamlining, making things
easy. Anything else coming up in terms
of emotions or words when you think of
AI and using it in your business? You've
been through a lot of different
presentations and workshops with lots of
different options. Um, Liz makes things
easier but concerned about the need for
coaches in the future. Liz is exactly
what we're going to start to explore
today. So, thanks for that. I think
that's quite a common maybe a common concern
concern
um among coaches opportunity to educate
others on its use. Wonderful. Okay. So
keep those coming and I will keep the
presentation going because what I did as
well in preparation for this was I asked
I surveyed 100 people and I asked them
what is the difference for them between
you know coaching and AI what's the real
fundamental difference that they see um
with AI as a coach so and here they are
distilled down for you so the feeling
was that AI can simulate listening
because remember it's not really
listening it's a simulation
right? Um, and it cannot embody
presence. So, it can simulate listening.
It can respond to prompts, but it cannot
embody presence in the way that a coach
does. AI sees correlations between
different concepts. It can see patterns,
but it can't actually feel the meaning
behind those. So, and or ask that
question, what does it actually mean? AI
can follow the rules that it's
programmed or trained to follow, but
only human beings can really weigh the
value, the implication of that. AI
operates from training data, but human,
it's human connection that really
generates emergence.
Uh, AI can summarize, but it can't
symbolize. AI may not necessarily be
very effective at things like metaphors.
And a lot of our clients speak in
metaphor or they share their experience
in metaphor with us. All change happens
in relationship not in information
exchange. So it is that it is that
dialogue and it's not just about the
dialogue but it's the whole um the
relationship the context of things
rather than just a back and forth binary
conversation. And AI does not evolve
through reflection or humility whereas
coaches do. We're always growing, we're
always learning, and we're always developing.
developing.
So, it's really the difference between
three key things between language. So,
AI produces language um and awareness.
And that's what the coach is there to
help our clients evoke. In fact, one of
our key competencies as coaches is
helping our clients to evoke awareness
about their their current situation,
about their goal, about their beliefs,
their values, their identity, all of
those different things that make up, you
know, their mindset that make up who
they are. It's the difference between
prediction and understanding. So
predicting what may happen as a result
of data but then also understanding the
implication of that and also the wider
ecology or the wider context in which
our clients operate and simulation which
essentially is what AI is right it's a
big simulation and consciousness and
actually bringing consciousness into um
our coaching relationship.
So the key question for all of you today
is what role will you play when the
barriers between consciousness and
artificial intelligence dissolve? And
there's a feeling that maybe this isn't
too far away and I'm going to get into
that um in some detail as we go through
the presentation. But the core idea that
I want to explore here is that AI is not
replacing coaches. So you can sigh a
sigh of relief. I think it will replace
some elements but not coaches um in
entirety because what we're doing is
we're actually entering an era where
coaches who understand how to engage
with intelligence and that is cognitive
intelligence, it's emotional
intelligence, it's all the layers of
intelligence and then both artificial
and human versions of that will create
transformational impact like never
before. So this is actually quite an
opportunity for us um whether we're
coaches, consultants, therapists, etc.
And so we're in the middle of what I
like to call the intelligence explosion
because we've had never before have we
had so much information and intelligence
available at our fingertips. And what's
happened of course is there has been an
evolution. It's not not been immediate
and it still continues to evolve. So the
very first wave that we've experienced
is AI as a tool and that really started
back in 2020 and you know went through
until 2023 and a lot of coaches are here
at the moment and this is where we're
thinking about tools like chat bots and
using prompt engineering to prompt um
chat GBT or claude or perplexity
automated scheduling and note
takingaking. I notice a lot of you have
got your notetakers in today and then
using it for things like marketing and
offer creation and we've had some
brilliant presentations on u through the
summit on how to use AI to do exactly
this. Now the second wave is AI as a
partner. Now the early adopters are here
and this is where we've shifted from uh
simple AI to more complex reasoning
models. We've got aentic models etc. So
AI is able to do more to follow more
instructions to communicate with other
uh chat bots for example with other
agents. We can use it for real time
coaching enhancement
and here's where it's getting like to
the back to the future type thing and
I'm going to explore this in more detail
but now we're in the age as well where
we're starting to see the emergence of
ambient AI. So for example, we've had
Meta's Ray-B bands come out where, you
know, they can translate conversations,
the text comes up um on the glasses. So
the wearer has immediate access to, you
know, translation to information, etc.
And this really is the glimpse that we
have as coaches as to the sort of things
that we can really be utilizing far more
effectively that already exist uh to
help us to deepen our coaching and
deepen the results and to help our
clients in um you know in much more um
productive ways as well in terms of
achieving their goals. We've also got
multimodal intelligence. So now we've
got AIs that are out there that are
listening for, you know, changes in
voice, changes in breathing pace. Um
we've got, you know, AI for vision. What
are we noticing? What are we paying
attention to? And also measuring our bio
signals, biological uh signals. And a
lot of you will already have this,
right? If you were a Fitbit or an Apple
Watch, we've already got access to all
of those things. And I'm going to talk
to you in a minute about how we can
currently if we chose to use those in
our coaching. And there's also the
opportunity for continuous client
monitoring between sessions. And so
that's kind of where we are now. And
we're just on the, you know, on the edge
of that. Um, oops. We've gone from wave
three to wave four. Just got to go back
a page. Whoops.
Whoops.
Oh, there we are. So what's coming is AI
as an ecosystem
and so this is where we have ambient
intelligence right so this is no longer
going to be about typing into chat GPT
or typing into claude um with a prompt
this is actually going to be almost as
though AI is in the ether and we have um
ambient intelligence surrounding clients
247 access to information about
themselves the world around us and
access for us as coaches to what's going
on with our clients. And what this is
going to lead to is that we can start to
do predictive intervention before any
crisis occur. We can help our clients in
an in the- moment in real time way like
never before. And the other thing that
this ecosystem is going to enable us to
do is to develop these collective
intelligence networks amongst coaches.
So there can be much greater
confidential of course and I've got some
slides on this coming up around the
ethics and everything. Um but where we
can really start to um you know
collaborate in a way with information
about what actually does lead to change
in behavior, change in belief, those
kind of things, right? What actually
does create transformation? Because
we're going to have a much access to a
much wider data pool based on real time
coaching interventions. And this is
where we're headed. And then we move on
from there
and wave four is the cognitive co-pilot
era. So this is where you know we heard
on some of the presentations that AI
every 2 3 months four months it's
doubling right in intelligence. And so
we're going to see AI reach IQ levels of
1,600 plus. So this is 10 times smarter
than Einstein. And at this point what
will happen is that AI can model human
psychology with unprecedented accuracy
and also predictive coaching becomes
possible. So what happens is that AI is
going to be able to spot those patterns
and identify where someone may be
heading towards burnout where they may
be actually experiencing a breakthrough
or about to experience a breakthrough.
AI will also be able to tell us the
difference between a co a client who is
performing for us or telling us what we
want to hear versus you know their
current reality and also it can help us
with identifying when maybe someone is
about to self-sabotage or you know take
a few steps backwards in their growth
and development. So
So
>> the other thing that can happen as well
is if emotional AI emerges as Mo Gad Gad
predicts this means machines could
genuinely understand human emotions and
not just simulate responses. Because I
want I want you to remember that even
though we think we're talking to a
person, we're not talking to a person.
We're talking to a machine, a technology
that has been trained to recognize
emotion from certain words that are
spoken. And you do this as a coach
already, right? You tune into what your
what your client's saying. You hear
those limiting beliefs. You hear those
value statements. You hear those
emotional statements. You're already
doing it right. AI has been trained to
do that. And then it gives based on that
information. It gives what it believes
is the best possible response. And it's
a simulated response, not a real
response. And so, you know, as this
evolution occurs, AI is going to be able
to become more and more humanlike in its
training and its ability to actually
respond. Can I just um get in the chat?
Is everyone okay? Just give me a one, a
thumbs up. Is this all is this all
making sense for you um at the moment?
And yeah, good. Okay. Brilliant. Thanks,
Freddy. All right.
So by 2035 there'll be two types of
coaches. There will be AI enhanced
transformation coaches and they'll be
thriving. They'll be partnering with AI
focusing on honing the irreplaceable
human elements. And this is what I want
you to focus on. Often times what
happens is we focus on oh my gosh I'm
going to be replaced. If it can do this,
what about when it can do that? I want
you to really start to think about your
own personal contribution. Um you know
sharpening your own saw. What is it that
you do? And there are so many things
we're going to come on to it as a coach
that AI simply cannot replace. And yes,
AI in all likelihood is going to replace
traditional technique coaches, right? It
is going to replace goal setting, right?
Um it is going to replace um perhaps
even some kind of problem solving
because AI can perform those techniques
better, cheaper and faster, right? And
people will be communicating with AI as
a coach in inverted commas. They'll be
asking questions. They'll be putting
problems in there, asking AI to help
solve them. We're all already doing
that. Okay? And the question therefore
isn't whether AI will transform
coaching. It's whether coaches will
transform themselves fast enough to
remain relevant. Okay? Now, a lot of you
already have incredible skills that AI
is is currently replica replicating or
trying to mimic. You deepen those
skills. You deepen um and enhance your
value in that client relationship.
Now, Sam Olman says we're heading
towards super intelligence within this
decade, but I think most people miss and
people get freaked out by it, right? But
super intelligence doesn't actually
replace human wisdom. It actually
amplifies the coaches who know how to
integrate it. When we know how to take
all that information and we think how
can I apply that in my business? How can
I apply that in my work? How can I help
um use that to help me be the very best
coach that I can be? Help me to help my
clients get the most transformational
results by leaning into it. That's where
the difference is going to happen. And
one of the things I one of the one of
the um the quotes that I've that I've
heard is you know Gary Vee talks about
in the future people will hire people to
go for a walk with them right in the
future people will hire people to go for
a walk with them because human beings
are you know we've had co we've had all
of these things happening the advent of
AI technology people want connection
they want company and I think that
bodess really well for us as coaches
because ultimately I think people will
want that connection because although AI
will become smarter than us, it's you
know it's inevitable, it doesn't have to
become wiser because you can have
intelligence and not be able to apply it
in a way that truly matters and truly
creates transformation. We all know
those really bright people in our lives
who are super intelligent, right? but
they can't book a holiday for themselves
and get it right. Right.
Or they can't make astute decisions. So,
um the the thing here for me and for you
is that coaches who develop alongside AI
won't just survive, they'll become the
bridge between artificial intelligence
and human growth, happiness, and
potential. And that's ultimately the
role that we do want to be playing.
Okay. Just going to check the chat.
Yeah, community. Absolutely. And here it
is too. 100% Laura like people want
community. They want to feel a part of
something. So if you've got a community
on school for example, people will be
craving that. They're craving community
and connection. And if you're a coach,
consultant, therapist who's got a
community and you're creating that
engagement and creating that space.
That's again something that AI cannot do.
do.
Now the reality here is and it's a bit
of a reality check, right? If you don't
have the skills to coach, AI is not
going to make you a better coach.
Because you can have all the ingredients
to make chocolate brownies and still not
know how to bake the perfect batch. You
just look at them thinking what goes
where and when and how and what do I
preheat the oven to. But we've got to
recognize and as as your coaching,
right, you have an expert set of skills
and without them, you only get halfbaked
results. And this is the thing, you
know, your your responsibility, I think,
and it always has been, right? You take
them out too soon. That's right. They're
all runny. Yuck. Um the thing is that
you know your coaching skills are the
thing that you have that is that you can
leverage and that you know the more you
coach the better you get, right? And the
more you develop these skills and
perhaps even in concert in harmony with
AI, um you know, the the more effective
you're going to be. Um
Um
so I'm just struggling with my little
computer thing. So there's some things
like the reality check for me, and this
is what I think it's really useful for
all of us to ask ourself is when we're
using AI and coaching, does it bring me
closer to my client or does it create
distance? And there is a really I mean
one of the huge principles in in
coaching of course is psychological
safety. Does my client feel safe when
they're working with me? Because they
need to feel safe because if they don't
feel safe then they can't they're not
vulnerable. Right? So you won't be
working on the problem. You'll be
working on a very um superficial level.
And I think we need to be aware that
even though we may be excited about the
potentiality of using AI and coaching,
it there's a really big risk that we
actually devalue the human relationship
and that it does create distance rather
than create that that relationship that
we need, that co-creation relationship,
that partnership with our clients. Now
the second thing and I'm seeing this
more and more is that AI is tending to
decrease human agency. So human agency
is our ability to make our own
decisions, make really good judgments,
um use our brains for one of a better
word, right? We are in control of our
actions, our interactions, our beliefs,
our values, our sabotaging behavior.
We're in charge of all of that, right?
And there's almost this abdication of
responsibility that can happen when
we're engaging with AI and we're not
using our intellect. We're not using our
reasoning. We're just taking that as
being read. Right? That's the right
answer. I'm going to share it out there.
Okay? And I think this is a real risk
and I think becoming conscious of your
own tendencies and how you're using AI
and whether or not that is, you know,
helping you to grow and develop or it's
detracting from it. I mean, I know I've
had times where I've been on AI and I'm
like, you need to step away because you
know the answer to this. You know what
to do, right?
The next one is, does it serve
transformation or just efficiency? And I
think this is a huge risk with coaching,
right? Because coaching, what's that
saying? You teach a man to fish and he
can feed himself for a lifetime. You
give a man a fish and he can eat.
Anyway, someone help me in the chat. But
that's basically it, right? Like as
coaches, we don't want to just work with
a client on a goal, then achieve the
goal. Right. Sure. Right. We want to
help them to achieve the goal. What we
really want to do is we want to be able
to help our client so that not only are
they able to develop the skills to
achieve that goal that they've come to
us to work on or solve that problem or
elevate that potential.
We don't want them just to do that in
that moment. We want them to have the
skills and the ability to do it and
reapply that time and time again, right?
That's transformation versus there you
go, there's the answer, there's the
solution, which you know, it's not what
coaching is about anyway, right? Um, and
then also the next question is, would I
want someone using this tool on me? How
would I feel if I had hired someone for
this work to engage with me to get to
get this transformation or facilitate
this transformation? Would I want them
using this tool on me? Okay. Um and
remember coaching is about partnering
with your client to find the answers.
It's a do with process. Um
give a man a fish and he eats a meal.
Teach a man to fish and you feed him for
life. Okay. Yeah. Um,
there we go. So, here we go. Now, we're
going to get into a little bit of like
sci-fi, Back to the Future, Michael J.
Fox here.
Um, all right. It may not be actually
because that's going into the past,
isn't it? But anyway, right here are
things that are here now. They should
sound like science fiction, but they're
not. Meta Rayban IR glasses. Right.
Who's heard of these? Seen these
advertised? I think they're about 799 at
the moment. What they do is they do live
visual AI processing. They have conver
you have conversational AI in your field
of vision so they can translate language
etc. And so imagine conducting sessions
you're wearing your AI ray bands where
AI is observing body language. It's
scanning for environmental context and
providing you with this ambient
intelligence about any client state
shifts that you might miss. Right now,
as coaches, we already are paying
attention to these things, right? It's
something that we're tuned into. We're
tuned into words, to tone of voice.
We're tuned into body language. We're
tuned into facial expression. Um, we're
tuned into the words that our clients
speak. Imagine having that all here,
right? And it is this ambient
intelligence gathering information and
presenting it back to you. This is this
is, you know, the technology is already
here. The next is biometric emotional
intelligence, right? So these are you've
seen those who's seen those headbands?
Um they've been doing a lot of work in
schools. Um and a lot of different
companies have these headbands. I'll
share some of these with you in a minute
where actually they're measuring brain
waves and brain activity, electrical
activity in the brain. and they can
detect when a client's focus is wavering
when they're working or their stress
patterns throughout the day, quality of
their meditation or reflection practice
and the cognitive load during decision-
making. What is their what are the
synapses in their brain doing? Are there
new neural pathways being created? Are
they on automatic pilot? Right? Fascinating
Fascinating
because what it means is that we as
coaches have unprecedented insight. So
instead of asking how stressed were you
this week, you can say I noticed your
stress peaked Tuesday at 3 p.m. for 90
minutes. What was happening with you?
Right? And this specificity when we can
pinpoint those biological physiological
biometric reactions in our clients
really really powerful. Right.
So um and and for me it's quite
exciting. Um
yes um Laura I'm going to come on to
that. You can absolutely do that. Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Um, so how do AI glasses work with I
think they're probably coming, Patty.
Actually, that was my thought because I
thought I'd have to wear my Ray-B bands
over the top. At the moment, they're in
Ray-B band shape. I I imagine it's not
too far away, if not already existing,
where you could go to your Spec Savers
or whatever, and get your prescription
and have, you know, have AI. It's not
It's not far away, right? I still like
Apple watches. I'm coming on to that
Laura. Yeah, absolutely. Exactly like
Apple watches. Um, so yeah, it's not too
far away. Um, you know, I'm someone who
grew up, my first mobile phone was a
Nokia, I think it was Nokia 6110, right?
And I'm from the BlackBerry era as well.
So, I've seen so many evolutions, right?
So, these neural interface headbands,
they're non-invasive thought pattern
detection. They give you real time
cognitive and emotional state. So how
much cognitive load is on someone? How
much stress is on someone? How are they
feeling? Are they calm, relaxed? Are
they stressed? Are they frustrated? So
what can happen here is that clients can
track their mental and emotional
patterns between sessions and you coach
then with unprecedented data, right?
Because what happens is our clients when
they come between sessions, whether
you're running a cadence of weekly or
fortnightly, they come in and they
self-report their experience, right? And
that experience we always must recognize
is very subjective. Of course it is
right. It's a subjective experience. Our
clients tell us what they've experienced
and they choose what they tell us.
Whereas once we have this data
available, we can actually look at the
real time evidence of what their actual
experience was, not what they're
reporting to us.
Oops. Sorry. Got to go back on.
Oh no. Sorry,
Sorry,
I've got one of those. If anyone knows
how to get rid of the little green thing
um, that should work. Okay.
So, the next thing, and those of you
that are already trained in things like
NLP, um, will recognize this, but AI now
has this voice biomarker technology. So
what it can do is it can analyze over a
thousand vocal features. So it detects
stress, depression, cognitive load and
it's so much more accurate than
self-reporting. So it's using the voice
inflections in the voice, tonal changes
um to understand what is going on. It's
being used um with medical patients at
the moment um cancer patients, heart
patients etc. Very very interesting
technology. So this helps us as well to
know when a client is truly experiencing
a breakthrough rather than performing
for us, right?
Continuous glucose monitoring. Now we
can also use we can also in addition to
blood sugar, we can have hormone
monitoring as well, right? Because we
know for women out there, there are
certain times of our cycle where we're
more creative or less creative, where
we're um you know, where we have more
energy, less energy. And so we can tune
into that as well. So think about your
blood sugar impacts decision- making,
your emotional regulation and your
energy. Right? When you have a blood
sugar dip, you don't want to be making a
decision. You tend to be more irritable.
So this is the this is the brilliant
news for us as coaches because what we
can do is we can start to integrate what
is going on physiologically for our
clients and we can talk about it during
coaching conversations because you know
some people will think they're
self-sabotaging but the reality is they
just need to eat something right or they
feel like they're depressed or they're
not you know um they've got no motivation
motivation
right and sometimes yes it's underlying
beliefs or whatever but often times can
be a very very simple solution. There's
a great saying in the medical profession
and it is if you hear the sound of who's
look for horses not zebras.
And that's so relevant to us as coaches
because I think sometimes we're like oh
my gosh there must be a hidden
unconscious sabotaging pattern here.
there must be, you know, there's some
kind of belief or whatever that's
lurking beneath the surface and it could
be just that someone's hangry, right?
And so this enables us to kind of almost
rule out some of those basic markers
that are happening at the physiological
level so that we can do our deep
psychological work. Now the next thing
that's available is these large context
windows where AI is remembering years of
coaching conversations with perfect
recall. And so every session you can
start to build a complete history. We
can have patterns emerging etc. And it
means that we're not always having to go
back and forth to our notes and and what
have you. I think the important thing
here to note is that I want you to have
in your mind we need explicit consent
every time we use AI, right? And I I
we're going to come on to this because I
think, you know, whenever we're using
something that is enhancing our coaching
ability, whether it's our notetaker or
whether it's prompts or whatever it is,
we need to get explicit permission from
our clients every single time. And they
need to have the right to say no as well.
well. Okay.
Okay.
And this is where the ethical boundaries
start to come in. So these tools are
designed to enhance our perception,
right? They enhance our perception.
They're not doing the work for us. We
still need to have that coaching mindset
in place very very firmly. And also the
client's self-awareness, right? The
client can become more aware of these
patterns, of what's happening, of their
reality because we're able to use these
tools in addition to the skills that we
already have. They're never going to
replace a human coach's intuition, their
presence, and their ability to hold that
transformational space. Okay. Any
questions or comments before I move on?
Um, how do I glasses work? Yeah, doesn't
change. Okay, awesome.
awesome.
>> I think you're caught up. >> Pardon?
>> Pardon?
>> I think you're caught up, Laura.
>> Okay, excellent. Good. Good.
So, I really want everyone or I invite
everyone to start to think beyond
prompts and bots and agents, okay?
Because I feel like we're thinking about
um AI development as prompt engineering
or building a chatbot. And they're so
useful. We've seen that through the
presentation so far, right? But I really
think that if we take it to the meta
level, that's kind of like thinking the
internet was about building websites.
The real opportunity here with AI for
coaches is architectural. Right?
Right?
So think about it. What is the internet
for? Right? If you think the internet
was about building websites, I want you
just to go to that next level. What is
it actually about? Right? Networking,
connectivity, information exchange. Like
there's so much, right? And so that's
what that's how I'd love to invite you
to start thinking about AI in coaching
and there are lots of there's seven
frontiers and the first one is I've
mentioned it before ambient present
right so um and Laura you mentioned this
in the comments so we're moving from 1
hour 90-minute sessions to 247
supportive presence so the concept here
is that AI can provide daily micro
coaching through devices that clients
already use like your Apple Watch,
right? What you do is you design the
intervention logic. So what happens when
this happens? If X then Y and then AI is
going to execute with consistency. So
you're going to be there between sessions
sessions
um you know through those kind of
devices. And so how does that actually
work? Well, a client wears a smartwatch
and it tracks their heart rate variability.
variability.
AI detects a stress spike during a work
meeting and it sends a brief audio
message in your voice i.e. your co your
coaching voice. I notice your system is
activated. Remember our work on the
seven 478 breath. Begin this now. It's
just an aid memoir for the client to to
breathe right and then data comes back
to you for your next session.
So this is I don't know. I find this
quite mind-blowing. Like as I was
thinking about all of the potentiality
that we have available,
you know, for those of you,
you know, working in different fields,
you know, different niches of coaching,
you can see the applications. And the
reason this matters is that behavior
change happens between coaching
sessions, not in them. So we can support
that. We can support really effective
habit development. It may be that it
pops up and says, you know, um listen to
this sleep this sleep hypnosis, right?
Do you currently I want to ask you all
how do you do you currently support your
clients between calls and how do you do
that? Some people use messaging or
voxer, some people don't at all. Right?
What are you doing between calls to
support your clients? Now the next one
is this predictive intervention
architecture. So this takes us from
reactive coaching to preventive
coaching. So what AI can do is analyze
all the data across all the information
that we're gathering including your
coaching notes, coaching sessions, etc.
and it can then start to identify some
of those early warning signals of
regression, breakthrough,
procrastination, or crisis. So, it can
notice the patterns within a client and
so it can we can put that pattern
interrupt in before they're actually
going to be um running that strategy.
So, if our client has a procrastination
strategy, we can start to see the early
warning signs for that and we can put an
intervention in place to move them back
into motivation.
So, here's an example of that.
Fitbit, right? I don't know. Fitbit just
cancelled their app. I don't know.
Anyway, I've still got one that works.
But the sleep quality declines for three
nights, right? So, you notice that the
sleep length, duration, depth is
reduced. What could that indicate?
Right? It could indicate stress. Um, the
client's thinking about something.
They're overthinking at night. Their
email response time slows down by 40%.
So, be measuring the digital pattern
there. the work rate pattern and their
vocabulary starts to shift towards
absolute language very much black and
white thinking. So it flags you before
the client would have called in crisis.
Right? So we know that this I mean it's
a cocktail, right? Isn't it? Bad sleep.
I'm tired. My work productivity has decreased.
decreased.
And I'm starting to see things not in an
objective way, but in very black and
white, which then leads to, you know,
negative emotions being experienced,
which then creates that spiral and that
sequence. So, you're getting that
information early. And so, this is a
psych philosophical shift for us, which
is, you know, how can I help you with
what already happened to how can I help
you navigate what's emerging and what's
coming up for you? And that really is
going to accelerate the effectiveness of
our coaching because rather than helping
our clients to, you know, fight fires,
we're actually helping them to, you
know, navigate those obstacles really
powerfully and teaching them the skills
as well or equipping them with the
ability to navigate and recognize within
themselves going forward. So the next is
multi multimodal intelligence. So what I
mean by this is that we we have
different modalities, right? What we
see, we hear, we feel, we think, we say
to ourselves. So what we're doing here
is we're coaching the whole human and
not just the verbal human. And I know as
coaches, this is what you're doing
anyway. Um because we don't just coach
based on the words that our clients
share with us, right? They're choosing
every single word. There's emotion,
there's energy there, and they're always
giving us information. is there's a
consistent information exchange in a
coaching session, right? So, and
typically what we can do unless you've
been trained in this is we can pay
attention to one or two at the same
time. AI is going to be able to gather
all these different inputs at the same
time and that is going to really
accelerate our effectiveness. the you
know I do recommend that if you don't
already coach and pay attention to these
things that you develop those skills
because it's so so powerful enables you
to go deeper enables you to have
incredible rapport with your client as
well um but even just being able to
recognize this is um you know in your
clients using AI very um very powerful
so say for example you're on a Zoom
coaching session and the client says I'm
fine with that decision so that's the
words they use But the voice stress
analysis shows elevated anxiety and it
picks this up through the vocal tone. We
can detect the tone of someone's voice.
What's going on?
A micro expression in their face. Slight
muscle movement may indicate
frustration. And so AI will alert you in
real time. In congruence detected,
recommended probing, right? You don't
want to have an AI with a voice like
that, but it's going to give you
information. I want you, of course, as a
human coach to be able to do this as
well and recognize and pay attention to
these things. This would just be an
additional validation, right? Because
the best and most effective coaches have
always been able to read between the
lines um and identify in congruence. And
whether that is in values, whether that
is in what our clients say they do or
say they think. Um, and you know, and
that's really important that we have
those skills to be able to read between
the lines of what's being said and
what's not being said and to detect
those in congruencies, right? Because we
can read um, and now AI can read those
biological signals as well. So that's
quite exciting. How you feeling about
those three so far? Does that excite
you? Scare you? Um
yeah, Bri, you're using asynchronous um conversation.
conversation. Yeah.
Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
The next one is this concept of the
collective intelligence network. So it's
about pooling th those resources. So
there's anonymized pattern recognition
across thousands of coaching
engagements. AI is already being trained
by what we put in. So AI can help us to
identify what really does create
breakthroughs versus what we think
creates a breakthrough. And so this
could be a global coaching pool of metal
learnings. Right now, I want to
I want to issue a real caveat here
because I'm really passionate about the
fact that we need to be really conscious
of the ethical, legal, confidentiality,
data protection and cultural
implications here
in terms of inputting client data even
if it is anonymized into AI because
we're teaching it biases and also we
never know like you cannot be 100% sure
of where that information is going,
where's it being stored, what's
happening with it. Very useful resource
of course, but I think there needs to be
some real due diligence going on here.
Um, so say for example, you're coaching
someone through a career transition and
then AI surfaces and says in 847 similar
cases, the breakthrough occurred when
coaches addressed identity loss before
exploring new opportunities. The success
rate was 76 versus 31. So imagine that.
Imagine that having that at your um at
your disposal. And it may even be that
if you did that with your own within
your own niche
if you could do that within in your own
niche, you know, and start collecting
that data of what's worked, what's been
most effective. Okay? And so this means
that we're really shifting to an
evidence-based practice of these are the
things that work in these specific situations.
situations.
And you're still retaining, of course,
your skill and using your intuition.
you're partnering with a client because
even if we have a really dialed in
niche, the way we task one client will
be different to the way we task the next
client based on a whole lot of factors
um you know to do with their mindset,
their identity, you know, all of those
things, their skill and capability,
their behavioral preference, etc.
So AI is your infinite research
assistant. So this means that AI can um
if the client mentions something, AI can
actually provide the research, the
framework and the information. So you
can stay fully present by being
intentionally well informed. So it's
giving you information in the moment
potentially um about your client. So for
example, my company is going through a
merger and I'm feeling X. AI can
silently surface in your peripheral
vision. If you're using meta glasses or
on your screen, if you're using a Zoom
call, it can tell you, well, there was a
recent um Harvard survey on identity
during mergers and acquisitions. Can
pull up your own notes. It can give you
warning signs. So then you're coaching
with that additional layer of wisdom and
insight. You could also use this to
input responses from an onboarding form,
for example. Um and then it would give
you the information of you know the
context and you know the content
potentially and even the structure of
where to lead uh with your specific
client um who's presenting with in with
those with whatever problem or whatever
goal um you know and that's and again
quite exciting as well.
The next is personalized intervention
design. great coaches. We're doing this
already, right? Um AI learns each
client's unique response patterns and
then it designs personalized frameworks,
exercises, and interventions and it can
test and iterate faster than any human
than humanly possible. Right? What we
want to be able to do as coaches is we
want to be able to coach the client in
front of us really deeply understand,
you know, what makes them tick. So then
we can use different interventions based
on their behavioral preferences. It is
very different for example coaching
someone who is a high on the
introversion scale versus the
extroversion scale or someone who has a
high preference for detail versus
global. They just want the big picture.
The way you're going to task that
client's going to be different. And when
you have and you know client's values
come in here, client's beliefs come in
here. The communication preference and
style comes in here. And so you know we
are able already to really um leverage
that information to work with our client
using language and tasking etc that is
best for them best used for them based
on the individual profile. This will
elevate that um
in terms of giving us you know those
things where the client will have less
resistance as well. Right? So for
example, traditionally you may assign
the same journaling practice to all of
your clients. When we use AI enhanced
work, it can generate seven different
accountability structures tests which
resonate um which resonates with this
specific client's psychology adapts in
real time based on behavioral
preferences and belief patterns. So, one
of the things that I um that I do is I
have a diagnostic tool called mindset
dimensions which measures emotional
frequency, behavioral preferences,
beliefs, values, etc. And so when we
when we input that information, so
useful because we're tailoring a really bespoke
bespoke
uh intervention or a really bespoke
activity, exercise, task for our client
to do, right? So what you're doing is
you're focusing on the direction and AI
handles the nuances and how handles the
um the tailoring and personalization of
that for their clients.
And frontier 7 is consciousness mapping
and developmental tracking. So this is
where we help our clients to see the
growth because oftentimes what happens
is you people don't see their progress,
right? There's a lag indicator, there's
a league indicator. Um, if you've heard
of the concept of the gap in the game,
very often our clients are focused on
the gap between where they are and where
they want to be, even though they've
made all this progress. And so if we can
have AI or other diagnostics that can track
track
um those shifts across all of these
different areas, whether it is, you
know, experiencing less instances of
frustration or whether it is um you
know, taking immediate action or
creating a habit, if we can do that,
then we can help our clients to see that
progress that maybe they weren't aware
of previously. And that's really
powerful because one of the things that
we know of course from a positive
psychology perspective is that if we can
experience and have tangible evidence of
progress that actually spurs us on and
motivates us to take even more action.
And the more action we take, the better
we get. The better we get, the more
action we take, the more confident we
become. And so it's this reflexive loop.
And so this for me is really really
powerful um for us to be able to do that
with our client. So we can also start to
um generate things where we can show for
our clients them shifting in cognitive
complexity. So they can move from for
example binary thinking maybe they used
to think in black and white terms very
black and white terms and they can shift
into paradox thinking which is a paradox
holding which is you know I can be a
leader and I can be a follower right it
doesn't have to be either or it can be
both and here's a here's the context
around it and these shifts are really
powerful for creating change for
internalizing change externalizing
change and maintaining change as well
and also getting that emotional granularity.
granularity.
So we can see as a client moves from
saying you know how are you good how are
you bad to having a more complex um
emotional vocabulary and an emotional
awareness we can start to notice that
they are starting to nuance right no I'm
not angry I'm feeling frustrated right
anger frustration subset of anger right
and because when we can name the emotion
we can work with the emotion right um
and then self authorship this could be
where we notice that a client instead of
having a highly external frame of
reference, which means that the client
needs someone to validate, they need
someone to give them feedback to tell
them they're doing a good job. They
don't just know inherently. When we
notice that they're shifting more
towards an internal frame where they do
know, they can self- validate, that's
really powerful as well. But when no
matter what these metrics are, these are
just three examples. When we have those
right, it's very very powerful for our
client to spark their motivation to
continue on to keep working on and it's
also very useful for us as a coach as
well to know which interventions and
where our effectiveness is as well.
Right. Um so that's very powerful work. Okay.
Okay.
I just want to let you know there aren't
92 slides by the way and we're now
moving on to the ethical frontier unless
there are any questions and I'm just
going to do a quick time check. Oh,
okay. Um,
>> we had one question about whether or not
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All right. Thank you.
So, with great power comes great
responsibility. And everything I've
shown you today will be possible either
today within 24 months. But it doesn't
equal permission.
Right? So, the question isn't can we,
but should we and how? And a lot of this
is about you and your own decision
making and what you feel comfortable
with. But I also think a lot of it is
going to be um jurisdictional. It's
going to be legal. it's going to be
ethical, right? So, here are five things
that I think that you know we as coaches
need to maintain when we're using AI
enhanced coaching. So, we need to have
informed consent and data sovereignty
and the ICF is very very hot on this as
well. They've also released some papers
around AI and coaching. Um, and I'll
I'll share the links with for those with
you as well. Um, but clients really must
understand what is the data collected,
how AI uses it, who sees it, where's
it's being stored. They need to have the
right to opt out of AI assisted
coaching. If you are using AI in your
coaching, you need to have an agreement
that people sign and they need to be
made aware at the start of every single
call. I think this is the standard that
we need to set. I only use AI in ways I
can explain in plain language to my
clients. So if there's complexity that
you don't understand, don't use it. And
I only use AI with explicit and
conformed consent. And that needs to be
not just once. It needs to be every
time. Now, this includes analyzing a
coaching transcript for your own use of
learning. Okay? Be really clear about
who owns that data because it's not you,
right? It's the client. And so if you
are thinking, I'm going to put my latest
three coaching conversations through AI
to get it to come up with a sales page
and an offer and messaging. No. Right.
Not without that client's explicit
consent and not without your knowledge
about what is happening in the
background to that information. What is
AI actually using it for? And even if
you anonymize it, the risks are very
real. So, I want everyone to be really
clear about that, okay? And be clear
with your clients. If you are using it,
you need to make them aware.
You can tell that's my soapbox moment.
Um, the next is transparency without
distraction. You need to disclose what
the role of AI is in your practice and
you need to be very clear about when and
how it's used. So, you're the coach. You
need to be fully present in each
session. And the standard to set here is
AI is the infrastructure. It's not the
focus. Right? And in fact, I would
recommend that AI is best used if you
want to use it for preparing for a
session, reviewing a session, not during
a session. Right? Because one of the
things that we give our clients in
coaching is we give them our full
undivided attention, our coaching
presence, and our coaching mindset. And
if we've got lots of different things
going on and things popping up, then it
becomes a distraction. Right? The next
is human primacy. AI is not the decision
maker. You are the coach. You are the
consultant. You are the therapist. You
are the expert. Right? Do not devolve
responsibility to AI. AI can make
suggestions. Right? You're the decision
maker and you are ethically and legally
responsible for all interventions. And
that includes if you create an agent or
a bot that sits somewhere in your
process in between sessions, your
clients interacting with it, you are
responsible for that. And we have
recently seen some very dangerous things
that have come out of AI interactions.
And so, you know, just be very very
clear about what's happening. Is AI
supporting your coaching or substituting
for it? Okay. And the standard for you
to set here is I'm the coach and AI is
that should just say a tool I use,
right? Um it's a tool I use.
Bias awareness and mitigation. This is
one of the most important ones, right?
So AI inherits biases from training
data. AI still thinks that CA that all
CEOs are men, right? Um there's a lot of
bias in AI and there's a lot of bias um
particularly when it comes to vulnerable
populations, different cultures where
therapy or unconscious mind work is
indicated right AI is very quick to go
down the rabbit hole of you know inner
child work or you know um underlying
unconscious saboturs etc right be very
clear that if it's yours you're
responsible for that and the outcomes of
that Okay. So the standard to set is I
actively question AI recommendations
especially when they confirm my
assumptions. Right? Double check. I
commit to remaining aware of my own
unconscious biases and regularly ask for
feedback on these. Okay. This is all
about making sure that you're aware and
constantly doing that review. I think
that's our responsibility anyway as
coaches, therapists, consultants to be
able to do that and to be aware and
preserving the sacred like I fully
believe that some moments must remain
unmonitored, unanalyzed and unoptimized,
right? Let's just be and have this
moment of being in connection
with our clients.
The coaching relationship really is
sacred and when when we're hired as a
coach, people are putting their trust in
us. And I think technology can serve it
but it doesn't define that relationship.
It's a human relationship coaching and
what we bring as human beings AI cannot
bring because AI can help you think
about your client right it can give you
input and ideas and insights but it
can't replace thinking with your client.
Remember coaching isn't a doto process.
It's a do with process. It's a
collaboration. It's a partnership. And
that connection, that partnership, that
thinking, that extrapolation of ideas,
that indepth diving is something that
is, you know, that that we as coaches
can do really, really effectively. And
so the standard to set here is I know
when to turn AI off. I know when not to
use it, right? We don't want to reduce
that human agency, right? We we want to
maintain our skills. We want to keep
sharpening our saws as coaches and AI
learns from us. So if AI's if coaches
use AI unconsciously, we'll train it to
replicate our blind spots at scale. So
what we've got to do is develop our
coaching skills faster
than technology does. And ongoing
professional development is key, right?
No matter what field you're in. And by
ongoing professional development, I
don't just mean courses or
certifications. I mean reading books,
listening to podcasts, reading articles,
you know, tuning into things. What's the
latest? What is happening in my
industry? What is happening in coaching generally?
generally?
So, how do you become a next generation coach?
coach?
I want you to reframe your professional
development. I think, you know, the
summit's been amazing and and people are
diving in and I've dived in and I'm
looking at, you know, uh different ways
to use um different elements of AI in my
business. But I think you don't need to
become a programmer. You need to become
a designer of the intelligent systems
that best serve human transformation.
Design the system that is going to work
best for the transformation for your
client. The first thing in that is
understanding what that transformation
is. Who are your clients? What's the
transformation? What's your role in it?
Yes. How can I AI assist? How can it
streamline? How can it make your
interactions more effective? Because the
thing that you really need to develop is
those coaching skills that are the
foundation for your human interaction
because that's what you do have
incredible control over, right? How
effective you are in that human
interaction as a coach and the results
that you're helping your clients to achieve.
achieve.
So you want to be tech fluent but human-
centered. So you want to be we want to
be familiar and comfortable with AI but
you're grounded in the human presence.
ethically ri rigorous keep asking
yourself questions and participating in
groups where there's dialogue around
consent bias and data protection Lucy
did a presentation there were others
that did presentations around all of
this really important go back revisit
those things be a continuous learner
develop your tech skills develop your
coaching skills okay to the mutual
benefit of each not to the detriment and
be bound they're bound boundary
innovator. So be very clear about where
AI starts and stops and where your
coaching comes in. And you need to make
sure that you communicate these
boundaries with your clients. And my
wholehearted belief is that AI is not
going to replace coaches, but it will
reveal the ones who were never really
coaching in the first place. Right?
Because these skills, everything that I
mentioned to you earlier on about AI
having um the capability to detect, you
know, emotion, to detect, you know, um
beliefs, those shifts, all of those
things we can do ourselves when we have
those skills, right? We can do as human coaches
coaches
and when coming to the end. So what are the specific skills that I think is
the specific skills that I think is going to be really important to develop
going to be really important to develop is systems thinking,
is systems thinking, right? So this is where it can be really
right? So this is where it can be really tempting, right, in a coaching um
tempting, right, in a coaching um conversation if you've done some AI
conversation if you've done some AI analysis to say, "Oh, you mentioned use
analysis to say, "Oh, you mentioned use the word overwhelm seven times this
the word overwhelm seven times this week. Let's explore that." Right? That's
week. Let's explore that." Right? That's just sharing data.
just sharing data. But a better question, a more effective
But a better question, a more effective question is to say, well, when you
question is to say, well, when you notice that sense of overwhelm building,
notice that sense of overwhelm building, what else in your environment, the
what else in your environment, the people, the tools, the systems seem to
people, the tools, the systems seem to respond or shift? See how we're thinking
respond or shift? See how we're thinking in a system, not in a not in a linear
in a system, not in a not in a linear way. We need to think in a network. What
way. We need to think in a network. What else is in the ecology and the
else is in the ecology and the environment of our client? Okay, it's
environment of our client? Okay, it's not just a coaching conversation. This
not just a coaching conversation. This happened, then that happened, then that
happened, then that happened, then that happened. It's thinking in the wider
happened. It's thinking in the wider context of what's the impact or what
context of what's the impact or what influenced or what happened just before
influenced or what happened just before that thing happened because that's where
that thing happened because that's where the real information
the real information is, you know, comes, right? We want to
is, you know, comes, right? We want to have that insight. And so what we also
have that insight. And so what we also want to be able to do is to have data
want to be able to do is to have data literacy and to pay attention to what
literacy and to pay attention to what really matters in terms of the
really matters in terms of the information that we're getting about our
information that we're getting about our client, right? And we really want to
client, right? And we really want to think about what a client's telling us
think about what a client's telling us versus what is their what what is their
versus what is their what what is their behavior, right? Where's the evidence?
behavior, right? Where's the evidence? Often times, if you do values work with
Often times, if you do values work with a client, for example, they may tell you
a client, for example, they may tell you that their health or their family is
that their health or their family is really important, but their observed
really important, but their observed behaviors don't validate that. There's
behaviors don't validate that. There's not a match, right? They, you know,
not a match, right? They, you know, drink drink a lot. They don't exercise.
drink drink a lot. They don't exercise. they smoke maybe or they don't sit down
they smoke maybe or they don't sit down and spend time with their family. They
and spend time with their family. They say family is important but their
say family is important but their behavior the evidence for that is
behavior the evidence for that is elsewhere. So for example, you may have
elsewhere. So for example, you may have a goal tracking app. I know some people
a goal tracking app. I know some people use these um and the client's completed
use these um and the client's completed all their weekly actions, but when they
all their weekly actions, but when they come to the session, their tone's flat
come to the session, their tone's flat and their motivation is really slipping.
and their motivation is really slipping. Now, if you looked at the data, you'd
Now, if you looked at the data, you'd call it success, right? Well, they've
call it success, right? Well, they've done it. They've done they fulfilled the
done it. They've done they fulfilled the habit. they've done what they um had set
habit. they've done what they um had set out to do. But when you combine the
out to do. But when you combine the metrics with the lived experience,
metrics with the lived experience, noticing the energy, the language, the
noticing the energy, the language, the emotion, you can see that compliance
emotion, you can see that compliance doesn't equal transformation. So just
doesn't equal transformation. So just because someone is tracking off their
because someone is tracking off their habits or tracking off their goals or
habits or tracking off their goals or completing tasks does not mean that
completing tasks does not mean that they've transformed. And so we this is
they've transformed. And so we this is where we need to explore. We need to go
where we need to explore. We need to go beyond the data and we need to look
beyond the data and we need to look beyond that and have those coaching
beyond that and have those coaching conversations and really
conversations and really integrate those qualitative insights.
integrate those qualitative insights. How is my client feeling? What are they
How is my client feeling? What are they thinking? What words are they using?
thinking? What words are they using? What do they sound like? Look like how
What do they sound like? Look like how do they feel? Right? Because when we
do they feel? Right? Because when we combine those things, how they feel and
combine those things, how they feel and think, their mindset with what they did,
think, their mindset with what they did, then we're going to start to get that
then we're going to start to get that real true picture of growth. And that's
real true picture of growth. And that's where we use our coaching intuition, our
where we use our coaching intuition, our coaching agency and our coaching
coaching agency and our coaching decision making to fully explore that.
decision making to fully explore that. Okay.
Okay. Um the next one is integration
Um the next one is integration intelligence. So this is where we're
intelligence. So this is where we're blending things together and we need to
blending things together and we need to know when to trust AI input versus our
know when to trust AI input versus our human intuition. I think there's a
human intuition. I think there's a really big risk and I've seen it quite a
really big risk and I've seen it quite a lot. people input something into X AI,
lot. people input something into X AI, get an output, and they just run with
get an output, and they just run with it. Whether that's a social media post
it. Whether that's a social media post or, you know, whether it's a client
or, you know, whether it's a client recommendation and that frightens me
recommendation and that frightens me because, you know, you need to put
because, you know, you need to put yourself into
yourself into um into the situation to be able to
um into the situation to be able to actually review it um and use AI in a
actually review it um and use AI in a way that that frees your attention for
way that that frees your attention for deeper present but doesn't detract from
deeper present but doesn't detract from it, right?
it, right? um and make sure that you are that
um and make sure that you are that there's some kind of balance there. So,
there's some kind of balance there. So, how do I stay in my coaching presence
how do I stay in my coaching presence while AI handles those logistics while
while AI handles those logistics while AI is keeping a transcript or a record
AI is keeping a transcript or a record or making suggestions? And that's going
or making suggestions? And that's going to be a real skill I think um to develop
to be a real skill I think um to develop going forward because you know yourself
going forward because you know yourself like there's distractions you know if
like there's distractions you know if your phone pings for example or the
your phone pings for example or the doorbell rings you know there's lots and
doorbell rings you know there's lots and lots of distractions anyway. AI could
lots of distractions anyway. AI could potentially be another distraction. So
potentially be another distraction. So it's learning how to use it and
it's learning how to use it and integrate it in a way that doesn't
integrate it in a way that doesn't disrupt that coaching presence and that
disrupt that coaching presence and that coaching relationship and ultimately the
coaching relationship and ultimately the psychological safety that our clients
psychological safety that our clients feel when they're working with us. Okay.
feel when they're working with us. Okay. So
So we want to have it so that AI feels like
we want to have it so that AI feels like having a brilliant colleague whispering
having a brilliant colleague whispering insights but not operating the
insights but not operating the machinery.
machinery. Um there's something you can do here. Um
Um there's something you can do here. Um and and as I said I want you to make
and and as I said I want you to make sure that you are getting explicit
sure that you are getting explicit permission but if you can record a
permission but if you can record a coaching session with explicit
coaching session with explicit permission use the incognito. You know
permission use the incognito. You know how you've got incognito chat remove all
how you've got incognito chat remove all the identifying markers. have AI analyze
the identifying markers. have AI analyze it and notice where AI's insights
it and notice where AI's insights enhance your awareness versus where they
enhance your awareness versus where they distract from it. I'm going to be
distract from it. I'm going to be running a free workshop on this. I'm
running a free workshop on this. I'm going to give you some instructions
going to give you some instructions before the workshop and we're going to
before the workshop and we're going to do this together using a coaching model.
do this together using a coaching model. So, if you're interested in doing that
So, if you're interested in doing that um we'll pop the link to that um at the
um we'll pop the link to that um at the end of this session. Um, but I think
end of this session. Um, but I think that it's really really useful to start
that it's really really useful to start doing things like that um for your own
doing things like that um for your own self-reflection and self, you know, and
self-reflection and self, you know, and self-awareness.
self-awareness. We're nearly done, guys. Is everyone
We're nearly done, guys. Is everyone hanging in there? That's what I want to
hanging in there? That's what I want to know. Are you all still hanging in
know. Are you all still hanging in there? I appreciate your time so much.
there? I appreciate your time so much. Um, visionary leadership, we want to be
Um, visionary leadership, we want to be able to shape the future rather than
able to shape the future rather than adapting to it. And so for you another
adapting to it. And so for you another step that you can take is to start to
step that you can take is to start to articulate your philosophy. What does AI
articulate your philosophy. What does AI enhanced coaching mean for you and your
enhanced coaching mean for you and your coaching practice and your clients? I
coaching practice and your clients? I think you can start to design some
think you can start to design some proprietary methodologies which combine
proprietary methodologies which combine your wisdom and AI capabilities. We had
your wisdom and AI capabilities. We had some presentations on this in the
some presentations on this in the summit. I think that you know um we'll
summit. I think that you know um we'll be I'll be sharing ways that you can do
be I'll be sharing ways that you can do this in other programs. Um but also just
this in other programs. Um but also just also to start to think about well how
also to start to think about well how can I be in the conversations about
can I be in the conversations about ethical standards about AI leadership
ethical standards about AI leadership and coaching um I think if you are in
and coaching um I think if you are in this profession it's really important
this profession it's really important that we're continually having those
that we're continually having those discussions sharing our fears sharing
discussions sharing our fears sharing our insights um you know so that we are
our insights um you know so that we are engaging in this ethical practice but
engaging in this ethical practice but also we're using in a way where we do
also we're using in a way where we do have these proprietary methodologies
have these proprietary methodologies that we use in our business with our
that we use in our business with our clients and we're taking our wisdom and
clients and we're taking our wisdom and our expertise is streamlining it, making
our expertise is streamlining it, making it even more effective, right, with our
it even more effective, right, with our clients and for our clients and for the
clients and for our clients and for the transformation.
Um, so Sam Alman says that the people who will shape the AI future aren't
who will shape the AI future aren't waiting for permission. They're building
waiting for permission. They're building the future they want to see. So I think
the future they want to see. So I think the thing is this is your invitation to
the thing is this is your invitation to start to really experiment. I know that
start to really experiment. I know that a lot of you are already doing that,
a lot of you are already doing that, Bri. I know that you're doing that in
Bri. I know that you're doing that in your business, Brenda. you're doing that
your business, Brenda. you're doing that in your business. Um, and I think we
in your business. Um, and I think we continue to do that. We continue to
continue to do that. We continue to evolve. We continue to take emerging
evolve. We continue to take emerging technologies and see how they fit, if
technologies and see how they fit, if they fit. And also, I want you to really
they fit. And also, I want you to really start to think as well about your AI
start to think as well about your AI enhanced coaching manifesto. What are
enhanced coaching manifesto. What are your principles? What are your own
your principles? What are your own boundaries? Some of you may say, I'm not
boundaries? Some of you may say, I'm not using any type of AI in my coaching
using any type of AI in my coaching business at all. Whether that's for
business at all. Whether that's for processes and streamlining systems and
processes and streamlining systems and running and efficiently running my
running and efficiently running my business, whether that's for coaching
business, whether that's for coaching itself and that again it's your
itself and that again it's your decision. It's your business. Um and so
decision. It's your business. Um and so you know these are the kind of things I
you know these are the kind of things I think we need to be thinking about and
think we need to be thinking about and um
um and moving forward with. So one of the
and moving forward with. So one of the things that you can do is to design one
things that you can do is to design one proprietary uh system. So combine your
proprietary uh system. So combine your methodology with AI capabilities and
methodology with AI capabilities and create something that didn't exist
create something that didn't exist before and you can test with your
before and you can test with your willing clients and iterate based on
willing clients and iterate based on results. And when we start to do these
results. And when we start to do these small consistent experiments,
small consistent experiments, it becomes greater than the grand plans
it becomes greater than the grand plans you never execute. One of the things I
you never execute. One of the things I think can come out of summits like this
think can come out of summits like this is we're like right have an agent and a
is we're like right have an agent and a bot and this and that and we end up
bot and this and that and we end up doing nothing. Right? So, if I could
doing nothing. Right? So, if I could encourage you to do something, one
encourage you to do something, one thing, it would be to start to think
thing, it would be to start to think about how you can combine your own
about how you can combine your own methodology with AI to create something
methodology with AI to create something that's going to work really well with
that's going to work really well with your clients. Um, and there are lots of
your clients. Um, and there are lots of people out there who can help you with
people out there who can help you with this as well. Um, a lot of people from
this as well. Um, a lot of people from the summit, Bri, I know that you're one
the summit, Bri, I know that you're one of them. So,
of them. So, all right, quick summary, then we're
all right, quick summary, then we're going to wrap up. Um, so there are three
going to wrap up. Um, so there are three major shifts. I think AI becomes the
major shifts. I think AI becomes the invisible infrastructure which is
invisible infrastructure which is seemingly seamlessly integrated into how
seemingly seamlessly integrated into how we operate our coaching practices. I
we operate our coaching practices. I think we're going to see a
think we're going to see a specialization explosion. Um AI is going
specialization explosion. Um AI is going to handle generalist task. It may be
to handle generalist task. It may be that AI even does the first iteration
that AI even does the first iteration with our clients on what their goal is,
with our clients on what their goal is, for example, right? And I think that
for example, right? And I think that most of us are going to start to own our
most of us are going to start to own our own unique specialism.
own unique specialism. And then there's going to be new
And then there's going to be new coaching categories that will emerge
coaching categories that will emerge with AI, human hybrid models. So AI
with AI, human hybrid models. So AI could be the accountability partner
could be the accountability partner um and human res human coaches. We we're
um and human res human coaches. We we're the ones leading those breakthrough
the ones leading those breakthrough sessions. And it's that balance and it's
sessions. And it's that balance and it's shifting our thinking around that as
shifting our thinking around that as well as we embrace all the new
well as we embrace all the new technology.
So just to wrap up, here's why humans will always be essential, right? I think
will always be essential, right? I think I love coaching, right? Passionate about
I love coaching, right? Passionate about it. But I think AI will never replace
it. But I think AI will never replace the sacred moment when you witness that
the sacred moment when you witness that breakthrough, right? And when that
breakthrough, right? And when that client really opens up and they're
client really opens up and they're vulnerable in that moment and the
vulnerable in that moment and the coaching presence that communicates that
coaching presence that communicates that you're not alone more powerful than any
you're not alone more powerful than any powerfully than any other words. And
powerfully than any other words. And Lauri, you mentioned community, right?
Lauri, you mentioned community, right? It's the same thing whether it's group
It's the same thing whether it's group coaching or onetoone. I think this is
coaching or onetoone. I think this is something that only we humans can really
something that only we humans can really do. Give that sense of connection and
do. Give that sense of connection and community.
community. the ethical complexity of navigating
the ethical complexity of navigating what serves a unique human in this
what serves a unique human in this unique moment with this these unique
unique moment with this these unique values and I think you know that's an
values and I think you know that's an understanding that we have that you know
understanding that we have that you know we want to every coaching client is
we want to every coaching client is individual no matter how niche how honed
individual no matter how niche how honed our niche is right and how many
our niche is right and how many similarities our clients have in terms
similarities our clients have in terms of the problems they're facing or the
of the problems they're facing or the goals they're setting everyone has this
goals they're setting everyone has this unique lived experience um and I think
unique lived experience um and I think you know there is this um ethical
you know there is this um ethical consideration when we're working with
consideration when we're working with our clients to treat it in that way
our clients to treat it in that way rather than in a generic more generic
rather than in a generic more generic way. And also the creative emergence
way. And also the creative emergence that happens when two conscious beings
that happens when two conscious beings explore unknown territory together. So
explore unknown territory together. So where we're actually you know
where we're actually you know investigating going deeper getting that
investigating going deeper getting that awareness having those insights and
awareness having those insights and those breakthrough moments.
those breakthrough moments. So AI can enhance our effectiveness, but
So AI can enhance our effectiveness, but it will never make us unnecessary. So
it will never make us unnecessary. So the coaches who thrive won't be the ones
the coaches who thrive won't be the ones who resist AI or blindly adopt it.
who resist AI or blindly adopt it. They'll be the ones who ask the deepest
They'll be the ones who ask the deepest question. And I invite you to ask this
question. And I invite you to ask this of yourself. How do I use these
of yourself. How do I use these capabilities to serve human growth,
capabilities to serve human growth, happiness, and potential at a scale
happiness, and potential at a scale previously unimaginable?
previously unimaginable? Because that's the work. That's the
Because that's the work. That's the calling.
calling. That is as a coach. It's your calling.
That is as a coach. It's your calling. And that's the future that we're
And that's the future that we're building together. So I'll leave you
building together. So I'll leave you with those questions and then I will
with those questions and then I will also
also ask I love to take questions if there's
ask I love to take questions if there's still time Brenda. I know we've gone
still time Brenda. I know we've gone over time. Um I am running an
over time. Um I am running an interactive AI and coaching workshop
interactive AI and coaching workshop where you'll have hands-on prompts and
where you'll have hands-on prompts and some coaching. That's a free workshop.
some coaching. That's a free workshop. Um we can drop the link for that again.
Um we can drop the link for that again. Um we also have an AI coach
Um we also have an AI coach certification. It's the world's only ICF
certification. It's the world's only ICF accredited credential. Um, uh, created
accredited credential. Um, uh, created that with Elan Weiss who also did a
that with Elan Weiss who also did a presentation in the summit as well. Um,
presentation in the summit as well. Um, so we've got a waiting list for that
so we've got a waiting list for that happening and I've got my own school
happening and I've got my own school community as well. So yeah, so let me
community as well. So yeah, so let me just I'm going to stop sharing my screen
just I'm going to stop sharing my screen and then if there are any questions,
there are a few. one from Laura and then one from Katherine.
one from Katherine. >> Sure. So Katherine says, "How do you
>> Sure. So Katherine says, "How do you know that AI is not hallucinating?"
know that AI is not hallucinating?" Yeah, you don't.
Yeah, you don't. Um
Um I mean that's that's the issue,
I mean that's that's the issue, Katherine, isn't it? That you know, we
Katherine, isn't it? That you know, we don't know. And I think that's why human
don't know. And I think that's why human agency and our own we need to we need to
agency and our own we need to we need to review the outputs, especially if we're
review the outputs, especially if we're using the outputs with our coaching
using the outputs with our coaching clients. we've got a responsibility to
clients. we've got a responsibility to do that 100%. Um and so um so yeah, we
do that 100%. Um and so um so yeah, we don't and we can never be clear about
don't and we can never be clear about that. Um
that. Um so
so and that's whether you're using it
and that's whether you're using it yourself getting the outputs or whether
yourself getting the outputs or whether it's a bot or an agent that your clients
it's a bot or an agent that your clients are using that you've created.
are using that you've created. Okay. Um,
so going back a bit weren't the same or similar thoughts. I think the difference
similar thoughts. I think the difference is with with Zoom and audio recordings,
is with with Zoom and audio recordings, it was never using it. It was never
it was never using it. It was never using those to train itself, whereas AI
using those to train itself, whereas AI is using inputs to train, you know, the
is using inputs to train, you know, the future models, right? So there's the
future models, right? So there's the difference, Laura. That makes sense. Um,
difference, Laura. That makes sense. Um, so yeah, and I think and
so yeah, and I think and um, you know, and I think there's
um, you know, and I think there's there's this whole concept of an
there's this whole concept of an anonymizing, but I'm not sure anything
anonymizing, but I'm not sure anything can ever be truly anonymous, right? So
can ever be truly anonymous, right? So um, yeah.
um, yeah. >> Do you think u Katrine's asking, do I
>> Do you think u Katrine's asking, do I think AI will lower the cost to hire a
think AI will lower the cost to hire a coach? I don't think it will. I think it
coach? I don't think it will. I think it will offer more I think it will offer
will offer more I think it will offer different opportunities to hire a coach
different opportunities to hire a coach at different levels for different
at different levels for different things. So, for example, you know, in
things. So, for example, you know, in the future, if you're wanting just goal
the future, if you're wanting just goal clarification, that's something
clarification, that's something certainly that you can that you can do
certainly that you can that you can do with an AI. Um, absolutely. But I think
with an AI. Um, absolutely. But I think for the for the more in-depth coaching,
for the for the more in-depth coaching, I think there's always going to be a
I think there's always going to be a need and different services as well. Um,
need and different services as well. Um, 100%. Right? You're going to be able to
100%. Right? You're going to be able to offer different layers of complexity,
offer different layers of complexity, different layers of service. Um, and
different layers of service. Um, and even then, you know, there's goal
even then, you know, there's goal setting and there's goal setting. So,
setting and there's goal setting. So, again, depending on the model that you
again, depending on the model that you use. So for example, I teach goal
use. So for example, I teach goal setting models that are so much more
setting models that are so much more in-depth than the grow model or um the
in-depth than the grow model or um the clear model which are some of the
clear model which are some of the normative coaching models that we have
normative coaching models that we have right so um you know very much um it
right so um you know very much um it does depend um you know on the depth of
does depend um you know on the depth of that and I think the thing is that
that and I think the thing is that there's going to be I think what also
there's going to be I think what also will happen too is that there is going
will happen too is that there is going to be a distinction between really good
to be a distinction between really good marketers and really good coaches right
marketers and really good coaches right because I think there's people out there
because I think there's people out there who are excellent at marketing um but
who are excellent at marketing um but actually when they are working with a
actually when they are working with a client they actually don't know what to
client they actually don't know what to do right they don't know how to coach
do right they don't know how to coach and I think also there's an inherent
and I think also there's an inherent danger in that where you know if we are
danger in that where you know if we are using AI to provide outputs um in terms
using AI to provide outputs um in terms of even the questions that we're asking
of even the questions that we're asking our clients if you're reading a question
our clients if you're reading a question versus if you're thinking a question
versus if you're thinking a question it's a different cognitive process right
it's a different cognitive process right it's a different process in terms of
it's a different process in terms of presence
presence as well, right? You can read a question
as well, right? You can read a question and not remember it. If you think of a
and not remember it. If you think of a question which is in direct response to
question which is in direct response to that human exchange, you're going to
that human exchange, you're going to remember that question,
remember that question, right? And there's I think there's a
right? And there's I think there's a difference, right, as well.
difference, right, as well. So, yeah. All right. Any other
So, yeah. All right. Any other questions?
questions? I'm very very passionate about coaching.
I'm very very passionate about coaching. So always feel like you can ask me
So always feel like you can ask me anything um in the group. I'm in the
anything um in the group. I'm in the group still. Um so feel free to do that
group still. Um so feel free to do that as well. Yeah.
as well. Yeah. >> Um this was fabulous. I loved um the
>> Um this was fabulous. I loved um the approach that you took around sort of
approach that you took around sort of the futuristic side of coaching because
the futuristic side of coaching because I think it does definitely answer or
I think it does definitely answer or your session definitely answered the
your session definitely answered the question about you know is there space
question about you know is there space for coaching in the future with AI and I
for coaching in the future with AI and I think what you mentioned about it will
think what you mentioned about it will separate
separate you know the expert coaches from the
you know the expert coaches from the non-expert coaches and this is an an
non-expert coaches and this is an an area for you to not necessarily think
area for you to not necessarily think that you're going to become extinct but
that you're going to become extinct but more like this is an invitation to
more like this is an invitation to uplevel to look where you can really
uplevel to look where you can really polish some of your coaching skills.
polish some of your coaching skills. >> Um, you know, maybe bring in some other
>> Um, you know, maybe bring in some other perspectives around coaching. Uh, I
perspectives around coaching. Uh, I think it challenges us all. So whether
think it challenges us all. So whether or not you're in the coaching space,
or not you're in the coaching space, consulting space, in some type of
consulting space, in some type of serviceled business, it's going to
serviceled business, it's going to challenge all of us to think about how
challenge all of us to think about how we're showing up. And it it's going to
we're showing up. And it it's going to be good. It's going to be good for you.
be good. It's going to be good for you. It's going to be good for your clients
It's going to be good for your clients because you're going to be offering
because you're going to be offering different types of services that are
different types of services that are going to meet them where they're at. Or
going to meet them where they're at. Or maybe they don't even know they're there
maybe they don't even know they're there yet. they're going to want to go there
yet. they're going to want to go there because you're going there. So,
because you're going there. So, >> yeah, I think it's I think it's
>> yeah, I think it's I think it's exciting, but it also can be, you know,
exciting, but it also can be, you know, a little dismantling.
a little dismantling. >> So,
>> So, >> it's good to just take it in stride.
>> it's good to just take it in stride. >> Yeah. And I think that's it. I think
>> Yeah. And I think that's it. I think it's about how can I how can I deepen
it's about how can I how can I deepen the experience? How can I elevate the
the experience? How can I elevate the experience? How can I um you know, how
experience? How can I um you know, how can I leverage the tools in a way a that
can I leverage the tools in a way a that feels good to me as well, right? um
feels good to me as well, right? um to
to increase my own effectiveness um and
increase my own effectiveness um and increase the value of the
increase the value of the transformation, the longevity of the
transformation, the longevity of the transformation as well. And also it can
transformation as well. And also it can open up um lots of different other
open up um lots of different other structures for product offerings and
structures for product offerings and things like that as well. Like we've
things like that as well. Like we've seen through the summit, you know, what
seen through the summit, you know, what can I be doing that's evergreen? Maybe I
can I be doing that's evergreen? Maybe I can do a course or a program or, you
can do a course or a program or, you know, offer something like that. maybe
know, offer something like that. maybe there are alternatives to um you know
there are alternatives to um you know the the the one-to-one coaching session
the the the one-to-one coaching session that I could add into my business,
that I could add into my business, right?
right? >> But then also how can I further niche
>> But then also how can I further niche down or how can I further specialize?
down or how can I further specialize? Because I think that's the other thing.
Because I think that's the other thing. I think that the more that people can
I think that the more that people can specialize and deepen their expertise in
specialize and deepen their expertise in an area in terms of a transformation,
an area in terms of a transformation, the more they're going to command higher
the more they're going to command higher prices, the more they're going to be the
prices, the more they're going to be the sought after coach in that specific area
sought after coach in that specific area because people will not only pay for um
because people will not only pay for um they won't only pay for connection, but
they won't only pay for connection, but they're also going to pay for speed as
they're also going to pay for speed as well. Now, we may think that um that AI
well. Now, we may think that um that AI is is speedy. It's the fastest way from
is is speedy. It's the fastest way from A to B. But actually, it's not if it
A to B. But actually, it's not if it doesn't last and it's not if it doesn't
doesn't last and it's not if it doesn't engender the overall transformation.
engender the overall transformation. Like, I can repeat this. I can, you
Like, I can repeat this. I can, you know, I can apply this again and again
know, I can apply this again and again and again. So, it may equip someone to
and again. So, it may equip someone to have
have >> to be effective in a job interview or to
>> to be effective in a job interview or to have that difficult conversation by
have that difficult conversation by producing a script or some pointers, but
producing a script or some pointers, but that's a one-time event versus I am now
that's a one-time event versus I am now equipped and confident to be able to
equipped and confident to be able to manage conflict in any area of my life
manage conflict in any area of my life and have those conversations. And I
and have those conversations. And I think that's the difference, too. So,
think that's the difference, too. So, >> yeah,
>> yeah, >> very exciting. Very exciting. And I'm so
>> very exciting. Very exciting. And I'm so glad that we were able to have this
glad that we were able to have this conversation with you today. Um, make up
conversation with you today. Um, make up for a time that you weren't able to
for a time that you weren't able to attend at the summit. So, I'm glad that
attend at the summit. So, I'm glad that you're feeling better and that you're
you're feeling better and that you're here for us. Um, yes, there's lots of
here for us. Um, yes, there's lots of thank yous here. We will be um sharing
thank yous here. We will be um sharing the replay later. So, we'll just process
the replay later. So, we'll just process it and then get it loaded up into the
it and then get it loaded up into the site. I did put uh Laura's community on
site. I did put uh Laura's community on school there and then also her workshop.
school there and then also her workshop. We'll make sure that all the information
We'll make sure that all the information is available to you in the replay um
is available to you in the replay um post that will go up later as well. And
post that will go up later as well. And wish everyone a either good evening if
wish everyone a either good evening if you're in North America or early morning
you're in North America or early morning if you're in Europe. Uh, and definitely
if you're in Europe. Uh, and definitely a good day for you over in Australia.
a good day for you over in Australia. So, thanks again, Laura. We'll see you
So, thanks again, Laura. We'll see you soon.
soon. >> Thank you. And thank you so much for um
>> Thank you. And thank you so much for um for hosting me. I've really enjoyed it.
for hosting me. I've really enjoyed it. >> Absolutely. Thanks, everyone.
>> Absolutely. Thanks, everyone. >> Take care, everyone. We'll see you soon.
>> Take care, everyone. We'll see you soon. Sit by.
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