This discussion between evolutionary astrologer Dabney and historian/astrologer Nick Dan Best focuses on the significant astrological events of 2026, particularly the Saturn-Neptune conjunction in Aries, which is framed as a year of "breakthrough" marked by profound revelations and universal awakenings.
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Welcome to the Lawless Astrology
channel. My name is Dabney. I'm an
evolutionary astrologer. I'm welcoming
back with me Nick Dan Best who is a
fantastic astrologer who is a fantastic
historian. He maybe didn't study
history, but you study it in the context
of astrology. Is that correct? Yeah, I I
I didn't um I mean I took a few history
courses when I was in uh school, but um
um I I I'm just an avid reader. I've
always been an avid reader of history.
So, in that sense, I'm a historian. If
that makes you a historian uh of some
tier, you know, lower tier historian. Sure.
Sure.
>> Right. He doesn't have a PhD in history,
but he has a PhD in astrology and
history combined as far as I'm
concerned. And
>> well, yes, in the in the in the
University of of Dabney, maybe I I have
a PhD. um to to regular folk. I'm just
someone who knows um a lot about one
particular area.
>> I love it. So, uh I am welcoming him
back and we are going to instead of
talking about January, we're actually
going to talk about 2026 because there's
a lot going on and it's really kind of
um I'm calling it the year of
breakthrough and I want to hear what
Nick is calling it and what he thinks.
But Nick, do you have anything um going
on specifically that you would like
anybody to be aware of? Um obviously you
have your your channel. You do readings
for people.
>> Yes, I do. Yes.
>> Yeah, absolutely. Um I'm available for
bookings at nickdenbestrologer.com
and I'm actually offering uh a rebate
for the new year. People like to get
their uh year overview. So, I'm I'm
offering for a limited time right up
until January 7th, a 25% rebate on my
usual rate for 1-hour consultations. Uh,
you just use the promo code 2026206
when you're booking an appointment uh
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website, nicktagenbestrologer.com.
And yeah, you get 25% off until January
7th. Um, so hop on that. Yeah, thank
you, Dapney. Um, thank you for giving me
that. And just everyone, he's Canadian,
so he says rebate, but he means coupon
code. So
>> that's what I mean. Yeah, that's right.
>> People said to me before, "Is it a rebate?"
rebate?"
>> You know, I'm not a Yeah. Thank you.
Thank you. I'm uh um to me those words
are interchangeable, but I realize they
probably aren't or or you prefer one
over the other or it's a Yeah. Okay.
Discount, whatever. I'm sorry. I'm I'm
an astrologer. I'm not um salesman. So,
I used to market. So, um, I just brought
that up because I remember last time
people asking me like, "Did he mean
rebate or do you mean coupon?" He means
a discount. Pure
>> a discount.
>> Yeah. Yeah. You you you enter the four
numbers and it gets you the percentage
off. Whatever Whatever word you prefer
for what that is, that's what it is.
>> Perfect. So, uh, yes. And I've had some,
uh, wonderful reports about his
readings, and they're very affordable
for, uh, the level of astrologer he is.
And so um so definitely if you'd like to
treat yourself, please do that. Okay, so
uh let's talk about 2026.
Um the the first thing that I would like
to say is that I got a um a card deck
from my friend um uh for Christmas. She
came over and it's called Cynical
Affirmations. Now Nick is not like a
card guy, so we're not going to be
pulling tarot cards. However, I did
think this was very apppropo for this particular
particular
uh video. It says, "Don't cry because
it's over. Smile because eventually
everything will be." And to me, that
felt a little bit like, yeah, as we go
into 2026,
the the things that are ending now that
we're crying about, it's going to be a
whole new ball game next year. So, where
would you like to start for 2026?
Yeah. Well, I mean, 2026, some of the
the the most sort of um desirable
looking astrology, shall I say, happens
right at the get-go. January actually
looks like a pretty special month. um
that you know, yeah, if um if things
really are going on some kind of strange
uh uh turn, then then this is maybe a
chance to uh check in with your loved
ones, spend some time with the people
you most love being with and and uh just
generally enjoying the the holiday
season just a little bit further into uh
this new year. uh what we're going to
have is as Jupiter is Jupiter is in
cancer and since the sun is coming into
Capricorn Jupiter is always at its very
brightest in the sky when it's directly
opposite the sun but what's going to
happen this year is not I mean that
happens once every year is Jupiter will
be opposite the sun we get a very bright
Jupiter but this time that's going to be
happening just as both Venus and Mars
are making pretty much simultaneous
conjunctions to the sun in this in this
sort of dynamic opposite positions,
Venus, Sun, Mars opposite Jupiter, uh,
in a very, very tight opposition. Um,
and that's a fun dynamic, you know, I
mean, at the best of times, it can be a
standoff between two worthy adversaries,
but I think in in, you know, friendly
settings, it's it's uh um good rapport
with the people you're with, you know,
in in the best.
>> So, what would you suggest as a New
Year's? Is that like right around New
Year's or was that the It's going in.
It's the the first two weeks of January.
The culmination is the second weekend of
January, January 9th and 10th. Uh but
even the previous weekend is very good
in my opinion astrologically. Um you
know for most people I mean I guess for
some people you know there's a
something's going to be wrong with the
transits that doesn't jive with their
chart. But I think um in so far as we're
capable at analyzing the astrology of a
month and uh uh having an overall you
know chirpy view about it um I think
there's something to be said for
January. Um on a personal level like I
said you know things can be happening in
the world that maybe aren't so great as
which is always but in on a personal
level in terms of um you know really
connecting with the with the people that
you either want to stay connected to or
that you know you want to begin
connections with any of that nature. If
you're if you are sort of coming out of
an isolation period it's a really
excellent time to shake that off and and
get out there. you know, if if you're
the kind of person who has been
thinking, I um I've been alone too much.
I've been isolated too much, January is
a really great month to reverse that,
you know, without it being some kind of
big um [laughter] you know, big deal,
but just to to to exercise that muscle
to spend that time, which is always
meaningful, you know, you never know
with with those people that are
important to you. So, it's a good month
for that. I'm actually January is really
something to look forward to. Um, as we
move into February,
um, all these Capricorn planets because
Mercury will be following on that sun,
Venus, Mars, the four of them join Pluto
and Aquarius, and we get a five planet
stellium in Aquarius. So, all our
Aquarians out there are getting
birthdays with a massive stellium in
their sign.
And um, and so that makes it complex. I
mean it's going to ultimately mean very
different things to very different
individual individuals because those are
five different planets all sort of
merging and um different people's charts
will have different existing
relationships between those same planets
and their natal charts and that's how
that relationship would play out
individually but needless to say it's a
lot happening at once and the thing that
happens as soon as Aquarius season is
just ending Saturn and Neptune which
have been um they they were in Aries
last summer and then they retrograded
back into Pisces. They are finally
coming to their conjunction in Aries.
They both enter Aries in February and on
February 20th I believe it is right
around there anyway. Um the Saturn
Neptune conjunction happens in Aries and
this really is um how did what was your
your term for the year Dabney because it
was perfect the year of a breakthrough.
Was that it?
>> Yeah, breakthrough.
>> I mean that's that's that is what that
Saturn Neptune conjunction means. It is
it is clarity. It is about understanding
the truth with a capital T.
Understanding something that just
escaped you. Maybe you didn't know
everything that you needed to know or
maybe it was in front of you the whole
time and you just hadn't pieced it all
together, but it's an awakening. It's
really understanding things for for what
they are. And it's absolutely universal.
No matter who you are, where you you
lean, you know, ideologically or what
have you. Everyone everyone's got a
blind spot. Everyone's been wrong about
something either because they've been
kidding themselves or that, you know,
someone's been kidding them and and
they've been uh, you know, not not
looking into it. So, one way or the
other, uh, we all have some version of
this. We all have been missing something
about the truth that maybe it really was
in front of our eyes all this time and
we just didn't clock it until now. And
it really becomes untenable to um
maintain illusions once we get to this
period. I'm reminded the last time
Saturn and Neptune were conjunct. It's a
conjunction that happens every 36 years.
And the last one was in Capricorn in
1989, right when the crash of the Exxon
Valdez happened. um which was an oil
tanker that that uh um I think the the
pilot was drunk if I remember correctly
and it crashed and there was an oil
spill um in in the Arctic Ocean and it
was a huge media event. Um part of the
sort of Saturn Neptune always involves
the the periods where we shift our media
consumption. You know, the three that we
had in the 20th century were radio in
1917, television in 5253, and then the
24-hour news cycle in 8990. Um, and so
this was one of those events that was
happening around then that was enabling
the 24-hour news cycle. Um, was the
crash of this oil tanker. And it also
really stimulated the the ecological
movement. You know, um, Earth Day 1989
was a much bigger deal than Earth Day
1988, as I recall. Um and it was that
kind of awakening, people really
understanding the consequences of of oil
and ecological disasters of that scale.
And no doubt, you know, a lot of um um
you know, new new recruits to uh the
environmental uh movement um were were
created uh with that event. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So you get that kind of thing.
>> Yeah. Global global warming is actually
something that has been on everyone was
on scientist's radar for hundred years,
but it wasn't something that was in the
common lexicon or like I mean it was
called something different, but the
warming of the planet and the the use of
fossil fuels and like th those things
actually became things that people
actually began talking about right
around that time.
So before we got on Nick and I
>> Oh, I was just gonna I was just going to
say one thing that the Saturn Neptune
element to it is that Yeah. I mean it'll
be one thing, you know, people might
want to still argue whether or not
something is is man-made or not, so to
speak. But to argue that it's not
happening is the kind of thing that
becomes untenable when Saturn is
conjunct Neptune. You you you can't say
it's not happening. Maybe you want to
argue, oh, okay, it's not really our
smoke stacks or or what have you. Um,
some people will still try to sort of uh
uh advance arguments like that. Um, but
they won't be able to say, "Oh, the
planet's not on fire and it's not
flooding when the planet's on fire and
it's flooding." You know, like
eventually it just becomes like, "Come
on, something's um really off here,
>> right?" Like no matter what's causing
it, what's the solution?
>> There's the the the level of where we're
all agreeing on some basic truth rises.
is, you know, it's been a while since
we've all agreed on some basic things.
Um, and and Saturn Neptune is a great um
corrector of of that kind of problem
where we all sort of, you know, whatever
our blind spot is, we're like, "Oh,
okay." You know, and so we all course
correct. We all get a a wakeup call, a
reality check of some kind. Another good
example, um, the two Saturn Neptune
conjunctions ago in in 1952-53.
At the same time that right-wing
Americans were realizing that
McCarthyism was going too far, it was
very damaging and and wasn't something
they actually wanted to support, even
though they might have been
ideologically in line with its aims. At
that very same time, because Stalin died
in the Soviet Union, left-wing Americans
were now learning things about the
Soviet Union that had been kept from
them. And they were also realizing that
even if they were maintaining the the
ideological position they had that they
were dissociating from something that
they thought they supported and they ju
didn't just like right-wing Americans
were realizing about McCarthyism. That's
very Saturn Neptune. You know, everyone
no matter it's like, okay, you got good
values, you're smart, you're well
informed, fine. no matter what, you're
still prone to uh um misfiring somewhere
or misunderstanding something or or you
know, something's been kept from you
perhaps um you know, sometimes. So yeah,
that's that's what I really want and and
I wanted to emphasize that because
that's one of the big deal conjunctions
of 2026 and I think sets the tone for
what's going to define everything else
that follows over the course of the year
which is why I mean the the the title
you've given I I couldn't agree more you
know um because that's exactly what what
happens you know in in every sense
>> so okay so before we got on we were
talking about you know kind of the
quality of the holiday season being a
little more challenging December was a
little more challenging challging. We
actually had a big backup like a a stack
up of Capricorn. At the same time, we've
got the end degrees of of Pisces,
Piscian energy with the Saturn and
Neptune. And so, the difference now
being when we have a big pileup of
Aquarius, which is a somewhat more
optimistic sign than Capricorn.
Capricorn can really feel heavy and it
can feel hopeless whereas Aquarius feels
like okay it's more solutionoriented I
would say it has a little bit more like
futuristic like now we can kind of think
about the future in some way so I know
that you're you have some reservations
um or I don't know the exact word that
you have for the Saturn Neptune but I
believe the Saturn Neptune you do think
being the defining piece of this of this
year or that
>> oh yes >> okay
>> okay
>> absolutely yeah
>> let's talk
>> I mean there are there are other things
happening of course but I just mean
defining peace in the sense that it's a
it's a coming together a union of two
planets that whenever they do they are
in a union in a conjunction like this
they're always the major pivot for
whatever is happening in history for
that particular year I could take you
through hundreds of years of history and
whenever it's a year when Saturn is
conjunct Neptune
there. It's it's so it's the big deal of
the year, you know. It's it's it's your
Russian revolution. It's your, you know,
uh Tianaan Square follow the Berlin
Wall, Nelson Mandela getting released.
It's um it's Yeah, it's it's big history
things uh um big history shifts and
moments always, you know. And the last
time Saturn and Neptune were conjunct in
this early part of Aries was in 1703,
the same year that Peter the Great was
building the new city of St. Petersburg
um in in Russia, you know. So there's
also like yeah, there's all this other
stuff. Um Sweden had just um you know
lost uh well they were still fighting
the war with Peter, but they had lost
that territory and uh he was he was um
building this new city on a swamp there
so he could keep his eye on them. Um
there's a lot of stuff even when when
Neptune was discovered in 1846 it was
just moving into a conjunction with
Saturn going from late Aquarius into
early Pisces. And so it it really even
you know when when Neptune was
discovered it was in a conjunction with
Saturn and everyone was suddenly
understanding that something was there
that they they hadn't really realized
hadn't occurred to them. So, if you like
um the history piece, you have to check
out Nick's work on the astrology podcast
because I don't know how many hours was
that. I listen to all what like
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. [laughter]
>> Yeah. Yeah. Chris Chris and I do these
um marathon uh um you know um podcast uh
episodes on um Yeah. big big sort of
historical cycles and yeah we did one on
Saturn Neptune that's very extensive I
you know um so there's a lot of
information there if you listen to the
whole thing then then you know what I
mean but that's that is why I feel you
know I know it's kind of brazen I mean
we have other things to talk about
astrologically for for sure you know
there's going to be a Venus retrograde
in Scorpio in October there's going to
be all kinds of stuff happening um but
Saturn Neptune conjunctions like I said
they're always these big history things
and and that's I expect no less you And
I don't think I mean I just think intuitively
intuitively
anybody who's paying attention feels
that right like it's it's almost like
you can already feel it. Um, you know,
I'm here in the US and,
>> you know, we always make a joke, well, I
don't didn't have that on my bingo card,
like, right? Like, I didn't have it on,
you know, seeing Marjorie Taylor Green
completely have uh, you know, going on
the View and being in the New York Times
talking about how uh, you know, our
current president is not a man of the
people. That is a shift. That is a shift
that I think is foreshadowing for some
of what's to come because I think there
is this kind of coming out of the
Piscian energy into the the reality of
the situation as you're saying. So what
are some of the things that
you know you don't necessarily have to
predict what's going to happen because
it's almost impossible to predict what's
going to happen.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> But what are some of the things you're
on the lookout for in this February time frame?
frame?
Yeah. Well, um I mean the the thing
about Pluto and Aquarius um is it it
signifies two things for me from 2025
onward. Um one is is the AI phenomenon.
Um whatever the reality of that is going
to be um it's certainly something you
know uh it might not be what people
expect. Um but it's it's a thing. Um and
then the other thing of course is is the
Trump administration. Uh precisely
because inauguration day on January 20th
was the day that the sun joined Pluto in
a conjunction, the first one in Aquarius
since the 17 is it 1790s um just before
Napoleon came on the scene or just as he
was coming on the scene. And um yeah,
you know, it it said everything to me.
It was one of the the the configurations
that um were were part of the reason
that I predicted Trump would would be
the winner. Um because he's got a a
Pluto sun conjunction with JD Vance. The
minute he announced Vance as his uh you
know uh running mate. Um I I was already
looking at that inauguration day chart
and I realized, oh, Sun Pluto, that's a
match with them. And that was one of the
reasons. There were a few astrological
reasons why I knew Trump would win. uh
regardless of you know what I wanted to
happen. Um and yeah, that that's part of
it. And generally speaking over the
course of the year as I've been doing
you know I I read probably three four
charts average a day of of clients six
days a week and um many of them American
uh lion share of them are and um
whenever they're in an Aquarius
perfection year and and or or Pluto is
is in a very particular aspect to their
chart. Sure enough, um, you know, they
might be a government worker who's been
laid off or or one of the only ones who
wasn't laid off or this, but but the the
the Trump administration, either Trump
administration or or like I said,
something directly relating to AI
technology will typically be um present
in their story, whatever it is, uh,
whether it's a good one or not. I think
this is the February is the month where
um there is a tremendous um upheaval
with regard to the executive branch. Um
you know it might be an attempted coup
uh uh you know against against the the
president. Um although I'm not expecting
that to really get crazier until about
April or May when Mars joins Saturn and
Neptune and Aries. Um the reason for
this um both JD Vance and RFK Jr. even
though they're born 30 and a half years
apart both of them have Mars and Saturn
co-present in Scorpio.
And when Mars joins Saturn and Neptune
and Aries, my my view, my vision of this
is that JD Vance and RFK are going to be
like two ferrets in a bag,
>> if you catch my drift. Um, as things splinter,
splinter,
there are power struggles, there are,
you know, these dynamics. Um, I honestly
thought that South Park at the end of
that last season, they were going to
have RFK be the baby of of Trump and
Satan, but they they they went in a very
funny direction with that. Well, funny.
Yeah. Yeah, it was funny. Um, grim, but
funny. um you know with with that. But
um either way, you know, that's that's I
think I mean February is when that's all
starting to crack. But I think that does
sort of extend itself when Mars goes
into Aries um in in April and May. I
think that's when we're really seeing
like, you know, drama and and um you
know, people turning on each other and
and what have you. you can you can
already see it sort of stirring up u you
know the whole Candace Owens turning
points thing happening and what have you
but I I mean it that's that's on the
outskirts that's on the you know out
with the base of the party this will be
far more about what's actually happening
with the executive branch and also it
strikes me you know another Pluto
element to all this is what Trump has
been doing to the the White House like
literally demolishing it and um that
probably also is a big enter actually
yes I am just remembering
in February of 1962
there was a seven planet stellium in
Aquarius everything from the sun out to
Saturn was in Aquarius and it was right
in that month I think right around
Valentine's Day that Jacqueline Kennedy
the first lady did a live television
tour of how she had just renovated the
White House she had just done all this
work you know she had tracked down like
Abraham Lincoln's old desk or something.
All this like she had really done all
this like historians work to curate
these these lost um items that had once
belonged to the White House that she
wanted. I mean total opposite of what
Trump's doing. But it's occurring to me
like that happened during this massive
stellium in Aquarius when she did this
live TV broadcast. So when it's yeah the
more I think about it probably this
whole thing going on with the White
House is also really central um to to
whatever you know bruhaha is surrounding
uh the ad administration at that time. Um
Um
>> well that to me like is is I'm sorry to interrupt.
interrupt.
>> No, please go ahead.
>> Okay. That to me reminds me a little bit
of like the mythology of the Kennedys
and how much that was, you know, our
American royalty and how revered the
Kennedy Center was and, you know, the
Kennedy Honors,
>> of course. Right. Yes.
>> You know, the Trump Kennedy Center,
which is eventually, I'm sure in his
mind, going to become the Trump Center.
And what's fascinating is just the
demolishing of all of our mythologies,
right? like that's kind of a query and
like you know the the tearing down of
the east the east wing but they they
didn't preserve anything like you said
it's the complete opposite like instead
of restoration it's right
>> destruction and it's part of this
destruction of our American mythologies
and our um what was that that you know
>> like Lancelot and you know like kind of
>> yeah yeah the the Camelot Camelot
>> Camelot thank you couldn't think of the
right word.
>> Well, that that was the um when when
John F. Kennedy and and the the first
lady um had whatever little time
together they did, they loved to listen
to the record that was the soundtrack of
the musical Camelot. And this was
something that she talked about at some
point and it but it became this sort of
metaphor for yeah, you know, the the
however many days it was that Kennedy
was actually in the in the presidency
and you know, how short it was and
faded. But yeah, that I mean that's
that's a whole other thing. I I'd
forgotten of course the Kennedy which is
now going to be apparently the the
Kennedy Trump Center although again it's
sort of like the Gulf of Mexico like he
doesn't actually have any legal standing
to do this you know he he thinks he can
sharpie it in and it's going to like you
know stick in history but um um either
way yeah that that's also come into the
picture I mean it's interesting the
different ways that the the the Kennedy
name has has entered this story um um
from these different angles but yeah
that what he's doing with the White
House when I think about it is probably
uh um another big part of whatever is
going wrong for him in February. Um
April, May, Mars goes into into um
Aries. Like I said, coming out of
eclipse season in March,
excuse me, the North Node is currently
in Pisces. So uh during March we have eclipses
eclipses
um you know um with on the on the mostly
on the Pisces Virgo angle and um the
south node being in Virgo. These are
north node you know sort of more
centered eclipses. So, they're more
about um um setting setting goals and
and pursuing what we're after, you know,
um um having having a certain degree of
intentionality and and commitment to a
vision, a plan, what have you. Uh as
opposed to the south node eclipses,
which are usually more about like, you
know, be ready to to react to whatever
is going on. be, you know, respond and
and um um look sharp and and um don't
let anything get past you, you know. Um
so yeah, they're two very different
waves of being. So as we move from
February to April, we go through that
eclipse month, which is a sort of shift
in terms of it's more it has more direction
direction
than the south node period. And uh you
know you can break every year into
halves of of when we get to a north node
eclipse the next six months are sort of
more north node center then we get to
the the six months later the south node
eclipses and we're in sort of that phase
for six months. So I mean it's a very
broad thing again everyone's chart is
different and reacts to things in
different ways but in so far as we can
speak of this thing as as a unity yeah
once we get to March um we are in a more
sort of determined forwardmoving
perspective and having Mars then in
April join Saturn Neptune and Aries
really moves a lot of things very
quickly and probably by the time Mars is
leaving Aries a whole bunch of things
have happened in a very short period of
time. Um yeah, you know, the Mars went
retrograde in Aries in 2020 in the
second half of the year, you know,
during COVID and the election and just
up to to, you know, the January 6th and
um yeah, talk about a lot of things
happening in a fairly short period of
time. But I mean, this is less than that
because Mars won't be retrograde, but
all the same with Mars moving in with
the Saturn Neptune. Um, yeah, there's
and there going to be some shockers. No
matter how shaded you are, no matter how
it plugged in you are u um online or not
online, like it'll just like there'll
there'll be no hiding from the truth,
you know. Um
>> let's talk a little bit about Aries,
right? Because it's a different quality
of energy. So on the positive side with
Aries, you have focus and you have
loyalty and you have action and you have
decisiveness and you have um a sense of
autonomy and authenticity and I you know
it's a cardinal sign. So there's actual
action and direction on the on the the
and it's also can be the highest
expression of Aries is courage. It is
looking at um things that scare you and
doing it anyway.
Now the flip side of Aries is Aries is
kind of a fearful sign. Now it it
doesn't get that reputation, right? It
gets the reputation for being brave and
bold and but a lot of times that can be bombasting
bombasting
fear. And so the on the negative side it
is fear that acts out that can be a
bully that can be um aggressive. can not
necessarily be um thinking about the
it's like uh not thinking of the
consequences just plowing ahead. And so
I definitely think of like the way that
they are trying to make um ice like
they're not thinking necessarily the
long-term consequences. They're thinking
about like this is what I want to do.
This is what we're going to go do. And
like it's action, you know, they've
closed the border. Okay. But then what
are the downstream implications of this?
So those are sort of kind of some of the
also in the sign of Neptune, you know,
we have Christian nationalism. We have
kind of this warrior energy for religion.
religion.
However, there's also on the flip side
of that potentially the ability to um
chart your own path when it comes to
religion. not stepping in line with what
everyone else says, you know, kind of
finding your own authentic way. So, what
are some of your thoughts on Aries so
people can kind of understand where this
these energies are are going?
>> Yeah. Um, I mean, you know, I I find
like certainly with a lot of the Aries I
I've known, um, there there is there is
a a heroic impulse and they're they're
pretty good at standing up for other
people. uh they're not always good at
protecting themselves. Um they might
feel so heroic that they think they can
take a beating, you know, like like it
it's it's more important to protect
other people who they'll view as, you
know, defenseless or or what have you.
But, you know, they're they're supposed
to be able to take what other people
can't. So there can be this this you
know kind of massochism sometimes um um
involved because the you know heroism is
for is for protecting other people not
for you know um um just just protecting
myself. So that you you you do get that
with with a good deal um of that sign. I
think with this particular like the 2026
variety of Aries is something that we
haven't seen in a few centuries. you
know to have Mars, Saturn and Neptune
all in that sign in the same time and of
course the sun and u Venus uh and
Mercury will all be moving through that
you know as as co-conspirators over the
course of that period. Um yeah it would
not have been since the early 1700s that
it would have been possible for those
three planets to be in the same sign at
the same time. Mars and Saturn in Aries
sure but even that is only
yeah hasn't happened since the the 20th
century since the 1990s. So, um, yeah,
you know, there's there's there's a lot
that is very unique about this
particular, um, alignment. And I really
think with Mars being the sign ruler and
coming in and and hitting the Saturn
Neptune, even though the the conjunction
has already done a lot of its work, like
suddenly we all sort of have realized
some things, you know, um, that that
hadn't had, like I said, hadn't occurred
to us or new revelations come or what
have you. so that by the time we get to
April um you know we're we're we're
acting on things and maybe maybe it even
stirs up a kind of um
you know really strong proactive uh uh
um you know push toward getting um um
even further into the truth you know um
so yeah I mean that's that's the thing I
mean I think we can all kind of you know
look around and and guess some of the
things that might be coming out of this.
But yeah, you know, um some of this is
already sort of surfacing and has been
for for months now. But April and May is
when it's just no matter how much you
think it's already felt like, you know,
documents being released and things just
spilling, spilling, spilling further,
further. To my mind, it's really when we
get to April, May to that springtime
when Mars goes through that that we're
we're at peak, you know, uh, chaos and
crazy and just like, oh my god, this is
true and that's true and this, you know,
>> um, you know, if there I mean, you know,
I've never been someone who's convinced
that there are, you know, alien corpses
stashed away on some Air Force base. But
like, if there are, that's going to be
when we finally see them. You know what
I like it or whatever it is or things
that we we haven't even thought of
writing sci-fi about, you know, but but
happen to be true and we find out. Um,
it's big. It's big. It'll probably be
big for science. It'll probably be big,
you know, politically and and just and
like I said, Saturn Neptune tends to set
the tone of the years in history where
it happens, you know, it tends to be the
the the anchor, the pivot. That's I mean
in a lot of ways that's a good that's
really the good news I do think because
>> oh yeah
>> like it's actually like okay finally we
know what we're dealing with. You you
can't when everything is under the
surface everything is a dream everything
is foggy blurry like people have two
different realities which we've been
dealing with now for a decade.
Suddenly like you said there's just kind
of no denying the truth. Now, there's
always going to be some people that are
going to stay in their own denial of the
truth, but the vast majority of us are
going to kind of take the blinders off.
And that's in our own lives, which
before we were talking about this, like
we've had our own kind of aha moments in
our own lives. So, each one of these aha
moments in our own lives is also
connected to the collective, which is a
little bit more of what we're talking
about here. And so,
>> you know, I've talked about this like
maybe even with you, I can't remember,
but like the Epstein files being
something that, you know, I always just
sort of thought it was so insane all
these QAnon people thinking there's all
these highowered people trafficking
children and like there's actual truth
to it, which is insane. And now it's not
what was presented in the crazy QAnon
world. It it wasn't it wasn't in some
pizzeria that didn't actually have a
basement, [laughter] you know?
>> So, I mean, there's no one doing I don't
know, whatever, like sucking blood and
like just some seriously insane things.
However, there's some island with like a
dental chair and like crazy masks on the
wall and, you know, high high officials
all over the world. So,
>> you know, that to me is kind of this
like every single one of us has
something we have to look at, right?
Like looking at like to me it's like,
well, why wasn't there more done um in
previous administrations, Republican or
Democratic, that knew these things were
going on, but there was there was a
conspiracy to protect people that
clearly don't need protecting. And so
that's kind of the coming together
moment that I think you're talking about
to some degree.
>> That's I mean that's certainly that's
that's an obvious one that that's
already been you know it's it's in the
middle of happening. But what I'm
getting at is you know you pro we
probably haven't seen anything yet um
that that in April and May and certainly
in February we're finding out things
you know that make what we're learning
now seem you know like small potatoes.
right now we're we're we're just kind of
getting like, [snorts] "Yeah, I think I
smell a corpse." You know, that kind of
thing. We haven't found the corpse. And
not an actual corpse, but like,
>> "Yeah, [snorts] there's definitely a
corpse here, but we haven't actually
found the body, uh, so to speak,
metaphorically." And but I think in
April and May, it's like, you know,
whatever it is there is to know, that's
when we know, you know, and it does, it
has a very strong impact on people.
Another one. The other one was 1917
um the year of the Russian Revolution,
but it was already it was a few years
into uh the first world war. It was the
year that the Americans joined the war,
which was very late, but only when they
found out that the Germans were
conspiring to get the Mexicans to uh you
know join the war on their side and
attack the Americans. So even then it
was about discovering uh uh the truth
about something and that changing the
the you know the consensus and and the
sort of isolationist uh uh Americans
were suddenly like well hell you know to
hell with Germany. If they're going to
try and get Mexico to attack us then
we're going to go you know help Britain
fight them. So that was even Saturn
Neptune how America wound up joining
that war. But in Europe for all these,
you know, French and German and English
and and Austrian and Russian men, um,
who'd been fighting for three years at
that point, um, they might have, you
know, at the time they might have
thought it was going to be this short
war and that it was really glorious and
they, you know, they they, um, yeah,
they'd just be these heroes who had, you
know, their their manhood sort of
experience. Uh, and instead they're in
this this, you know, nightmare of a war
with trenches and machine guns. And I
mean the 20th century is really just
starting to to just even that you know
they're they're realizing it. So that by
1917 everyone has a very different I you
know understanding of what the war is
all about. And and you know there's also
people you know there's there are going
to be revelations. There are
conspiracies. England and France are are
planning on taking the Ottoman Empire's
you know Middle Eastern territories and
they're you know you know sort of
conspiring to do that. And that's going
to be a bit a bit of a problem. So
there's a lot of Saturn Neptune stuff in
there. Um there are conspiracies that
start during Saturn Neptune like uh you
know what was happening with the the
Middle East in 1917 or say things like
MK Ultra in 1953, the the CIA um LSD,
the secret plan to um you know program
to use LSD uh to to try and test it as a
as a weapon. Um that had all these
unfortunate consequences. So yeah,
sometimes new secret things pop up
during Saturn Neptune conjunctions and
we only find out about them decades
later and that's the thing we have to
worry about. But absolutely it's when
people suddenly like oh my god like this
is the truth, you know, which was a big
thing about 1917.
Um it's when people are just finally
starting to learn about radio, but they
really are understanding what the war is
all about and just how terrible it is
and whether they're winning or losing
that it's just it's been too much of a
price. Um, so yeah, I mean that that was
a really extreme one. You know,
obviously we're not going through that,
but there is that sense of like no
matter what you thought before, you
know, you you're there's no hiding from
the truth. You know, there's no no
lipstick. There's not enough lipstick
for this pig, you know, simply.
>> Yeah. Well, and now we have Venezuela.
Did you ever see anything about
Venezuela in your historical? Because
I'm curious why that's coming up now. >> Right.
Um, I mean, you know, the long story is
that it's really a follow. I mean, it's
so ironic with with Trump because on the
one hand, you know, he's so friendly
with the Russians, but on the other
hand, he's very much stuck in the old
sort of cold war, you know, he thinks
he's Ronald Reagan kind of or, you know,
there's there's that element of of like
those old days following him. and um
during the the the a lot of the 20th
century but certainly you know in the in
the um post-war period when the Soviet
Union was um
sort of you know pursuing some degree of
a program of of world communism or or
you know a sort of world community of
communism and and Latin American
countries were showing interest in uh
going communist and they were having
revolutions and so the US was spending a
lot of time fighting it. So this whole
intervention I mean the intervention
even before that period was happening a
lot with Latin America that was always
something the US was doing. So I mean
some of it is sort of you know Trump
just doing that thing that he thinks US
presidents do but there are you know
there there are obviously other factors
involved. He's he's uh um very
transactional. Um there's there's
something he knows he wants. I think
it's it's something Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
And there's you know he thinks he can do
it and and and get away with it, you
know. Um, the US has generally gotten
away doing what it wants with Latin
America, which I think is the other part
of it, like like him him bombing
Venezuela. You could see it almost like
a signal to Putin and Xi, like, yeah,
you know, what you do to Ukraine or
Taiwan or whatever. You know, this this
is what I'm doing to our local, you
know, minions and what you do do to your
local minions might be uh, you know,
yeah, if I can do this, then, you know,
that that's the party. That's the the,
you know, setting the tone, so to speak.
So I think there's some element of that
too. You know, there's an entitlement.
It's it's this hemisphere. So it's, you
know, he's supposed to be able to do it
according, you know, to his reasoning.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And that that's where some
of that Aries comes in with uh not
thinking through the consequences down
the road. So Okay. So then so after uh
so we we get hints of things in February
where it starts to become clear people
maybe start to be on the same page but
the real drama doesn't unfold until spring.
spring.
What about the the trines in the summer?
What are your thoughts there?
Yeah. Well, I mean, we do, you know, the
summer is a bit lighter. Ju first we're
going to have like a Venus Jupiter
conjunction in Cancer and then Jupiter's
going to move into Leo just as the South
Node is moving from Virgo into Leo. Um,
and that's setting up the astrology for
that really takes us into 2027. Jupiter
and the south node in Leo um are are
close companions uh going going from the
second half of 26 into 27 and eventually
Mars is going to join them in Leo and
then move into Virgo at the end of the
year and then go retrograde in early
2027. That's a matter for next year's
podcast I suppose. Um but it that whole
sort of uh scenario um you know starts
to shape up as soon as Jupiter enters
Leo which I believe is in July was it?
>> Yes. Uh the very end of June June 30th.
>> I was going to say end of June or early
July. So but July I I I watched your
other podcast with Chris Brennan where
you talked about Mars Uranus and that
point we have Uranus squarely in uh in Gemini.
Gemini.
>> Yeah. So, you want to talk a little bit
about those those you know July is
another kind of banner month, right?
>> It is. It is. Um I mean it's hilarious
that Mars is going to be conjunct Uranus
on July 4th and supposedly Trump's going
to have some MMA fight on the White
House, you know, lawn, if you can call
it a lawn anymore. Um which is just hilarious.
hilarious. >> Patio.
>> Patio.
>> Yeah. Whatever. Whatever you want to
call it. the the um O Pampe uh uh deck,
you know. Um um anyway, the yeah, Mars
Uranus on July 4th, if there's an MMA
fight, I mean,
I got to say, you know, like um it's
it's not the upsetting, you know, it's
not like tearing apart the White House
or all the things ICE are doing or what
have you. Fairly small potatoes and may
may be harmless apart from whatever
happens to the loser's head. Um but um
yeah, you know, the astrology, you can't
make that up. Um it I mean kind of makes
me feel like it's going to happen, you
know, like I look at the transits and
you know, I'm not in the in the business
of predicting MMA fights if they're
going to happen, but that sure looks
like an MMA fight on the White Alves
lawn to me. Um so I guess we'll we'll
see when the day comes. Should be
interesting. um you know he's I mean the
last uh you know his his it wasn't July
4th but the the military parade he had
on his birthday was um you know I think
something he wants to um yeah overcome
with you know um a comeback of some kind
>> I mean it is very reminiscent of like a
glad gladiatorial sort of like he's the
king and you know fight before me you
know there is this but between them
there will additional no kings protests
and oh yeah
>> you know I think there is one scheduled
in February and so I think we need to
>> you know I sort of go back to the card
don't cry because it's over smile
because eventually everything will be
the reality is is this is part of the
sort of um tragic comedy of it all right
like the repetition of the insanity that
maybe has played out in previous
lifetimes. You know, you think of the
parallels between Trump and Nero and
then you look at their charts. Uh
someone sent me Nero's chart and like
there's a lot of parallels and so you
kind of recognize like this is part of
just the ending of what was and it's
going out with a bang and it's about now
like it is everything's changing. it
will change. And so this gladiatorial
silly fight on, you know, it strips us
of all the dignity of the Rose Garden
and in the Kennedy era and the things
that we thought, but then if everything
is stripped bare and you see things for
what they were, you know, Kennedy was
sleeping with Marilyn Monroe, like I
mean there's like, you know, there's all
sorts of
>> Oh, and and many other women. I mean,
>> you know, he he probably only slept with
her once. Um, to to our know it's
possible. Is it, but the scheduling
would have been more complicated, but uh
yeah, he he was playing. Yeah. There
there were a lot of excuse me, a lot of
things happening
>> that had people known at the time, they
went to romanticized. Yeah.
>> Right. And so when you see it all it in
all of its glory um for what it is, it
can be hard to take, but it will end and
then there will be a whole new batch of
whatever we're dealing with. So um yeah. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah,
>> very true. Very very true. Um yeah, you
know, it's it's funny the um um Mars
Uranus co-presence um in any sign um
certainly in in in Trump's life um is
really really interesting. Um in March
of 2011, Trump was on the Comedy Central
Celebrity roast where like he sat down
and comedians made fun of him. Mars and
Uranus were both in Pisces. Uranus was
at the very end of Pisces and Mars was
also in Pisces when this was taped. And
on that program, I I got to say Trump
was a pretty good sport about like
they're making fun of his hair and
making fun of all these things, his
business failures, what have you. And he
sat there and he just kind of took it,
you know, the way uh graciously the way
people usually do on those shows. But
then two months later, or not even two
months later, like five, six weeks later
in April of 2011, by which point both
Mars and Uranus had moved into Aries and
they were co-president in Aries. This is
when Obama roasted him at the White
House correspondents dinner. And yeah,
like you know, uh, he didn't take that
so well and it might have even been a
big motivator right there and then to to
actually run for the presidency,
although he had expressed interest in
doing it before that. So yeah, there's
there's there's and there's there's
other ones like that that are just very
um very funny and very interesting over
the course of his life. So I think also
like there is something you know Trump
is a guy who has the sun in Uranus
conjunct with the north node in his
chart. So I do think like when Mars and
his chart is dal so Mars is the planet
that does um you know uh make things go
wrong when there's time for things to go
wrong in his life. He's got that he's
got Mars rising in his chart. And of
course when he turns 79 79 is a birthday
where you have the most the closest
cyclical sonotic Mars return in your
birth chart. So, if you look at Trump's
natal chart and his solar return for the
birthday he had this year when he turned
79 and there was the parade with the the
squeaky tanks, um Mars is in exactly the
same position, you know, on his on his
natal ascendant. Um, so I think when
Mars is co-present with Uranus, it's a
it's an extra piece of chaos for Trump
and uh with it being in Gemini because
of course he has the sun and Uranus in
Gemini. This is going to be the first
Mars Uranus co-presence in Gemini of
this new Trump era. And yeah, I think
it's going to be interesting
if he's still around,
>> right? The bruises are spreading. So
>> yeah, no, I mean that's the other I mean it
it
>> the health could be the the
>> but yeah but I may I remind you speaking
of of you know um dying or dead people
Jeffrey Epstein's birthday was January
20th 1953 he had the natal sun at zero
Aquarius so he is he has been the
Lazarus of the year the man's been dead
for six years but Pluto's been conjunct
his natal son and he's been more visible
to us this year than he ever was when he
was alive so There is something funny
about that with Pluto. Um, you know,
funny in the in in in only a way Pluto
can be funny. Um, you know, but um,
yeah, you know, it's sort of a dead man
coming to life, so to speak. I know. I
realize there's nothing funny about uh
the story itself. Just that the the
astrology of the Pluto transit is what I
mean by by funny.
>> Okay. So, I'm curious about this. You
said that uh during the inauguration in
2020 um five 20 Yeah. January 2025 um
the sun was conjunct Pluto in Aquarius.
>> That's right.
>> And you said that um
in the
>> Trump's Yeah. Trump's Pluto is conjunct
Vance's sun in Leo. They have that sinistry.
sinistry.
>> Talk about the Pluto sun conjunction.
Tell me tell me your thoughts on that.
>> Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean the the Pluto
sun conjunction is it's very Pluto
always has this sort of trans it's it's
transformative but also transportative.
It makes big things small, small things
big. Um rich people poor, poor people
rich. Um you know it make yeah like when
Pluto was discovered in 1930 it was as
we were you know discovering the atom
and inventing the transistor you know
really really tiny things that can do
really big powerful things. Um, and so
that is a Pluto feature. And and when
you look at the combination of Trump and
Vance, um, you know, Pl, like I said,
Pluto's very like, you know, you rise
from the ashes from nothing and come
right to the top or you're at the very
top of the world and you fall, you know,
all the way down in very dramatic ways.
So yeah, the the the se the celebrity TV
star, you know, is is on his way down
and the self-proclaimed hillbilly
um you know, is is suddenly in the top
seat at the house. And so it was that
contrast. It was looking at the two of
them as a pair and understanding the sun
Pluto nature of the sinistry because
Vance is and and apparently this is
something that Vance likes to remind
everyone else in the White House these
days is that he's the only one in that
place who can't be fired
because he was elected [laughter]
[laughter] apparent.
apparent.
>> Yeah. and he's apparently very aware of
this and he you know um yeah the likes
of Steven Miller or Marco Rubio or or
RFK uh cannot make that same claim.
Those guys can be fired anytime uh if
not by if not by Trump whoever succeeds
him as president uh should something
happen. So yeah, um you know that that's
the that's the Pluto, you know, very
last man standing um in a way, which is
which is what I think happens like when
when when Vance comes in, everyone else
we've been laughing at, you know,
they're gone. They're not his people. um
you know he's he's uh
yeah he's he's teal's guy so we're going
to you know they they've got their team
ready then and they have
>> right the reality TV show distraction of
Christine that's I agree and and then
it's and then that's really I think in
some ways when the Pluto Aquarius kicks
in because then we have the dark side of
the the tech oligarchs you know pulling
all the strings
And that's when a AI is ascendant
because we have an AI president.
>> Um, and so this sideshow
>> will eventually end, but then we have
the next the next two decades to unwind
the the oligarchy.
>> Well, yeah. Um I mean that is the the
the upshot is if if there's only one you
know hierarchy if there's only a 1% it's
a smaller concentration of people who
need to be overthrown you know there is
a bright side to this [laughter]
>> and and they don't have a cult they
don't they don't have that like falling
>> that I think has hypnotized some people
into um doing things against their own
best interest and that then fades I with
um these transits coming up. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. So, anything else on 2026 that you
think we >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. We need to talk about the Ven We
need to talk about the Venus retrograde
in Scorpio that happens in October. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Ven Venus goes retrograde in Scorpio
every eight years. It has been um
forever. Um uh you know the the nature
of the Venus retrograde is um it always
happens a little earlier in the sign
about two degrees earlier two days
earlier than the previous 8-year return
so that eventually it wanders into the
previous sign. So the the Venus
retrograde that happens in Scorpio now
back in you know the late 19th century
it was retrograde in Sagittarius. If you
look at the birth charts of like Winston
Churchill or or Charles de Gaul both of
them had Venus retrograde in
Sagittarius. um same retrograde. It just
gradually into the 20th century wandered
into Scorpio and nowadays it actually is
gradually wandering into Libra as well.
Um, but this this Venus retrograde,
whether it's in Scorpio or even when it
was back in in Sagittarius, it always
occurs every second midterm. And it's
it's often been the Venus retrograde of
those upset elections. You know, whether
it was the the conservative rally of
1994 or um you know, the the the um um
yeah, 2018 when when you know the
Trump's two years into Trump's term when
when he lost some some ground. Um it it
goes way back like when when um um yeah
you know when when in 1946 when Truman
was president and there was this huge
Republican majority that was elected to
to go against him. That's another you
know those sort of upsets that happen
every eight years happen during these
Venus retrogrades.
Um and so you know we're we're all sort
of wondering what's going to happen with
this particular one. The interesting
with this one, it's is it's followed
immediately by a Mars retrograde in
Virgo in early 2027.
And we're entering into a period with
with the cycle of the joint cycle of
Mars, Jupiter, and the nodes that is
reminding me of a few sort of hairy
periods in American history that include
the the Iran hostage crisis, Lexington Concord,
Concord,
um you know, the the the the early days
of the the FDR administration when there
was a plot against him. Um there there
are these sort of cycles from the past
that do tend to be uh rough. I'm
thinking the winter of 2026 to 2027 is
is like it's a rough one. You know, it's
it's sort of it's it's the the low point
before things really actually do start
to move forward and improve. You know,
um 2026 is about us sort of realizing
what the truth is. I I hope I'm wrong,
but I think like the hardest period um
of of our you know collective history
and certainly in this decade if not so
far in this century um that winter of
2627 is one that I'm I'm thinking is
going to be um yeah you know not not good.
good.
>> Okay. So that could be with the Venus
retrograde. It could be that you know
there is a change in the House um and
Senate there could be that but it could
be that it's not allowed to happen or
something like that. Um or
>> or yeah
or or you know everyone's everyone's
arguing but then some new threat to the
US uh uh surfaces and people are
scrambling to um you know get it together.
together.
>> Right. Right. Like like the things that
suddenly happen that change the game
where you you might have this sense of
things are going one way but then they
>> they they abruptly
>> shift gears and you have to get it
together and and we have the Uranus and
Gemini which could
>> you know be it could be conflict given
the fact that there's new en you know
new energy coming in new ideas coming in
people choosing sides and that's tends
to be
Yeah. But there's also a a a country
that is has always been known for being
a military, you know, superpower. Um is
politically incredibly vulnerable,
militarily more vulnerable than it's
been in a long time. Um and in American
history, uh because the there'll be this
Mars retrograde going from Virgo to Leo.
It goes direct in early April with the
south node in Jupiter. Marth Mars was
also just going direct in Leo with one
of the nodes. I think the south node as
well at Lexington Concord and um during
the Iran hostage crisis, Mars went
retrograde in Virgo just after the the
hostages were taken and when it was
going direct in Leo in April was when
Carter sent this mission out to try and
rescue the the hostages that went very
bad and resulted in in deaths. Um and no
no success. So it just and that was Mars
south Mars north node Jupiter. Every 47
years that node will flip. Um and there
are other things like that in history.
Whenever the US has been under attack,
it has always whether it's it's Pearl
Harbor, 911, uh the first attack on the Twin Towers, uh the Timothy McVey
Twin Towers, uh the Timothy McVey bombing, anything like that has they've
bombing, anything like that has they've always occurred not too long after Mars
always occurred not too long after Mars goes direct, after a Mars retrograde.
goes direct, after a Mars retrograde. It's not like every time Mars goes
It's not like every time Mars goes direct, the US is attacked. But whenever
direct, the US is attacked. But whenever it's ever happened, well, any of those
it's ever happened, well, any of those big ones I just named, certainly uh
big ones I just named, certainly uh those came just after Mars retrograde,
those came just after Mars retrograde, within about two months or so after
within about two months or so after them, um at the most. So that is a
them, um at the most. So that is a vulnerable time. Historically, it is a
vulnerable time. Historically, it is a time when the country's in trouble. And
time when the country's in trouble. And yeah, like the election, the election
yeah, like the election, the election could be okay or not. It is always an
could be okay or not. It is always an upset of some kind, but who knows what
upset of some kind, but who knows what the upset is this time. I don't want to
the upset is this time. I don't want to I don't want to over
I don't want to over >> right it could be the will of the people
>> right it could be the will of the people is not done. It could be and then people
is not done. It could be and then people are and then people are mad and they
are and then people are mad and they fight back in other ways or it could be
fight back in other ways or it could be some external enemy or could be some
some external enemy or could be some combination of the two. But I am you
combination of the two. But I am you know that's the thing is I think that
know that's the thing is I think that winter gets really grim but as we get
winter gets really grim but as we get further into 2027 like you know those
further into 2027 like you know those are those moments when the you know the
are those moments when the you know the people in the country um snap to action
people in the country um snap to action you know um and where they've always
you know um and where they've always been underestimated.
been underestimated. What is um what do you read with the
What is um what do you read with the Jupiter conjunct the south node? Because
Jupiter conjunct the south node? Because I know as an evolutionary
I know as an evolutionary astrologologist or evolutionary
astrologologist or evolutionary astrologer what I think um I can't
astrologer what I think um I can't believe the word evolutionary
believe the word evolutionary astrologologist came out of my mouth. I
astrologologist came out of my mouth. I >> I was going to say I have no I I'm I'm
>> I was going to say I have no I I'm I'm so over objecting to that. Like go ahead
so over objecting to that. Like go ahead and call yourself an astrologer.
and call yourself an astrologer. >> But I mean I mean like that it is
>> But I mean I mean like that it is actually offensive to me when people
actually offensive to me when people call me an astrologologist. So I just
call me an astrologologist. So I just get a little nervous and tongue tied
get a little nervous and tongue tied when I'm on a video. I'm going to be
when I'm on a video. I'm going to be honest with you. Okay.
honest with you. Okay. >> Sometimes I say things like Lance a lot
>> Sometimes I say things like Lance a lot when I mean Camelot, but honestly just
when I mean Camelot, but honestly just know I'm trying. Okay,
know I'm trying. Okay, >> I do those too.
>> I do those too. >> It's just a funny thing, right? Like if
>> It's just a funny thing, right? Like if we were just talking it would be
we were just talking it would be different. Anyway, I don't that I've
different. Anyway, I don't that I've ever said that word astrologist in my
ever said that word astrologist in my life. Don't use that. That's not the
life. Don't use that. That's not the proper word. Everyone out there, no
proper word. Everyone out there, no judgment, [clears throat] but it's not
judgment, [clears throat] but it's not the proper word.
the proper word. >> Yeah, but you know, we don't need to be
>> Yeah, but you know, we don't need to be so precious like Yeah. It's not the
so precious like Yeah. It's not the correct word, but you know, there there
correct word, but you know, there there are expensive things in the world. Yeah.
are expensive things in the world. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't get mad if like people
Yeah. No, I don't get mad if like people use that word uh other than astrologers
use that word uh other than astrologers or people who claim astrologers.
or people who claim astrologers. >> I think like when when I was younger it
>> I think like when when I was younger it was like something important. Today I
was like something important. Today I just think like yeah no it's not
just think like yeah no it's not >> like who cares, right?
>> like who cares, right? >> You know like like there is you know
>> You know like like there is you know there is a correct and incorrect but
there is a correct and incorrect but like you know let's let's not go
like you know let's let's not go overboard. Um
overboard. Um >> I know but I don't want to be the person
>> I know but I don't want to be the person doing that. Anyway, back to
doing that. Anyway, back to >> I would be embarrassed. Okay, go ahead.
>> I would be embarrassed. Okay, go ahead. Sorry. [laughter]
Sorry. [laughter] >> Thanks Nick for your grace. Okay, what
>> Thanks Nick for your grace. Okay, what was I gonna say? Well, that that moment.
was I gonna say? Well, that that moment. >> Oh, evolutionary astrologer Jupiter.
>> Oh, evolutionary astrologer Jupiter. >> Okay. What do you think about Jupiter
>> Okay. What do you think about Jupiter conjunct the south node? I would like
conjunct the south node? I would like your take on that because you're a
your take on that because you're a different kind of astrologer than me.
different kind of astrologer than me. So, I'd love your your take.
So, I'd love your your take. >> Yeah. Um, I think there's there's a
>> Yeah. Um, I think there's there's a double-edged sword to it. At the best of
double-edged sword to it. At the best of times, you know, Jupiter South Node is
times, you know, Jupiter South Node is about someone who intuitively,
about someone who intuitively, you know, knows what they're doing with
you know, knows what they're doing with without any sort of reason or backup for
without any sort of reason or backup for it. Now, usually that's insanity.
it. Now, usually that's insanity. Usually it's it just means someone is
Usually it's it just means someone is deluded or what have you. But every now
deluded or what have you. But every now and then someone uh just has some kind
and then someone uh just has some kind of like innate sense of the the the
of like innate sense of the the the right course of action, even if it's
right course of action, even if it's seemingly counterintuitive.
seemingly counterintuitive. And the that's your Jupiter south node
And the that's your Jupiter south node movement. You know the the south node
movement. You know the the south node can be like you know you remember in
can be like you know you remember in Star Wars when when uh Obi-Wan Kenobi
Star Wars when when uh Obi-Wan Kenobi puts the blast helmet on on Luke
puts the blast helmet on on Luke Skywalker so he can't see and he's got
Skywalker so he can't see and he's got to use the force. At the best of times
to use the force. At the best of times that's Jupiter South node like you can
that's Jupiter South node like you can actually use the lightsaber and hit the
actually use the lightsaber and hit the thing even if you can't see. Um but it's
thing even if you can't see. Um but it's it is a bit of magic you know it's got
it is a bit of magic you know it's got to be like the right person at the right
to be like the right person at the right time in the right situation. It's not,
time in the right situation. It's not, you know, most of the time it's people
you know, most of the time it's people who are kidding themselves that they
who are kidding themselves that they can, you know, will things to happen
can, you know, will things to happen that can't. Um, but I think like the the
that can't. Um, but I think like the the flip side to that is it can be a time
flip side to that is it can be a time when there's uh there is sort of a
when there's uh there is sort of a hopelessness. You know, the south node
hopelessness. You know, the south node can diminish the quality of a planet,
can diminish the quality of a planet, the expression of a planet. So, um, to
the expression of a planet. So, um, to some, I mean, Jupiter is about, you
some, I mean, Jupiter is about, you know, knowing things are going to be
know, knowing things are going to be okay, you know, and when it's with the
okay, you know, and when it's with the south node, maybe it's just like it's
south node, maybe it's just like it's really really hard to think about things
really really hard to think about things being okay. like it might seem a little
being okay. like it might seem a little um yeah you know hopeless or or you know
um yeah you know hopeless or or you know the just so the bottom falls out a bit
the just so the bottom falls out a bit you know before we can sort of pick
you know before we can sort of pick ourselves up.
ourselves up. >> Okay. All right. Cool. Thank you. Yeah.
>> Okay. All right. Cool. Thank you. Yeah. When you were talking I was thinking I
When you were talking I was thinking I think it's General Kuster who is a
think it's General Kuster who is a triple Sagittarius if I'm not mistaken.
triple Sagittarius if I'm not mistaken. And you know, Kuster's last stand like
And you know, Kuster's last stand like he couldn't he he won everything like
he couldn't he he won everything like all of his battles and everyone thought
all of his battles and everyone thought he was like the the penultimate until he
he was like the the penultimate until he wasn't. And that because he had just
wasn't. And that because he had just this like bombastic like I'm right all
this like bombastic like I'm right all the time. There's kind of that with the
the time. There's kind of that with the Jupiter to me where it's like just um
Jupiter to me where it's like just um misplaced
misplaced uh misplaced confidence sometimes too.
uh misplaced confidence sometimes too. >> Yeah. And and at Little Bigghorn, I
>> Yeah. And and at Little Bigghorn, I believe Venus was just going retrograde
believe Venus was just going retrograde in Leo. Is it? Yes, it was retrograde in
in Leo. Is it? Yes, it was retrograde in Leo with Uranus and Leo. Um and Kuster
Leo with Uranus and Leo. Um and Kuster was sun, Saturn, Moon in Sagittarius. We
was sun, Saturn, Moon in Sagittarius. We don't know what time he was born.
don't know what time he was born. >> Okay. All right. Lots of Sag.
>> Okay. All right. Lots of Sag. >> Yeah, a lot of a lot of Sagge, but yeah,
>> Yeah, a lot of a lot of Sagge, but yeah, I mean, very very sagike in the sense
I mean, very very sagike in the sense that he he, you know, thought figured he
that he he, you know, thought figured he knew what he was doing and that he was
knew what he was doing and that he was always right.
always right. >> Right. like this invincibility that then
>> Right. like this invincibility that then like oh yeah maybe not so much.
like oh yeah maybe not so much. >> Yeah. Yeah. And he was killed on June
>> Yeah. Yeah. And he was killed on June 25th but I believe like the country
25th but I believe like the country really only found out on July 4th like
really only found out on July 4th like because it was kind it was the it was
because it was kind it was the it was the centennial was he was killed June
the centennial was he was killed June 25th 1876. So July 4th, 1876, the
25th 1876. So July 4th, 1876, the country is 100 years old and people are
country is 100 years old and people are like, "Oh, Custard just got killed, you
like, "Oh, Custard just got killed, you know. It's kind of a downer, you know,
know. It's kind of a downer, you know, um kind of kind of blows the party." Um
um kind of kind of blows the party." Um so yeah, there's there's that element to
so yeah, there's there's that element to it as well.
it as well. >> How did you just pull that up so fast?
>> How did you just pull that up so fast? >> Oh, I have I have a database of of
>> Oh, I have I have a database of of charts um on the solar
charts um on the solar >> still. It's veryassive.
>> still. It's veryassive. >> Oh, no. I have thousands of charts. I've
>> Oh, no. I have thousands of charts. I've been working my whole life so that I'd
been working my whole life so that I'd be able to look up George Kuster in the
be able to look up George Kuster in the battle of uh a little big horn uh uh in
battle of uh a little big horn uh uh in a flash. Um all I do is is I go into my
a flash. Um all I do is is I go into my database, I type the word Kuster, and
database, I type the word Kuster, and those two charts come up and I can look
those two charts come up and I can look at them and and analyze them. Yeah,
at them and and analyze them. Yeah, that's how I do what I do.
that's how I do what I do. >> So impressive. I would have to be like,
>> So impressive. I would have to be like, "All right, hang on everybody. Let me
"All right, hang on everybody. Let me open this and let me scroll this." So,
open this and let me scroll this." So, I'm impressed. It was like a flash. It
I'm impressed. It was like a flash. It was superhero move. I thought it was
was superhero move. I thought it was cool. you you know I'm I'm impressed
cool. you you know I'm I'm impressed when like someone can play the drums
when like someone can play the drums really well and I'm like how do you do
really well and I'm like how do you do that? He's like well duh I just sat down
that? He's like well duh I just sat down and practiced for day after day which is
and practiced for day after day which is kind of the same thing like thank you
kind of the same thing like thank you for for for that but it I'm just sort of
for for for that but it I'm just sort of obsessed and it's just what I do day
obsessed and it's just what I do day after day so it's it's you know it's
after day so it's it's you know it's what I have.
what I have. >> It's very cool. I don't I don't do that.
>> It's very cool. I don't I don't do that. >> Okay. Anything else we need to talk
>> Okay. Anything else we need to talk about? Um because I don't want to keep
about? Um because I don't want to keep you
you a lot to digest but it's good.
a lot to digest but it's good. >> This is a lot to digest. I I did you
>> This is a lot to digest. I I did you know obviously to go into all 12 months
know obviously to go into all 12 months uh uh bit by bit would have been maybe a
uh uh bit by bit would have been maybe a bit too much but I feel I did get to the
bit too much but I feel I did get to the things that we really want to um know
things that we really want to um know about at least from here you know as we
about at least from here you know as we go deeper into the year we can look at
go deeper into the year we can look at individual months you know more in the
individual months you know more in the weeds and what have you but the contours
weeds and what have you but the contours the sort of the over overall
the sort of the over overall astrological you know uh makeup of this
astrological you know uh makeup of this year that's that's how I gauge it those
year that's that's how I gauge it those those are the things that that stand out
those are the things that that stand out to me and yeah you know get ready for
to me and yeah you know get ready for that Saturn Neptune, it is the thing of
that Saturn Neptune, it is the thing of the year.
the year. >> Amazing. Yeah. And I think that there
>> Amazing. Yeah. And I think that there I'm going to go out on a limb and say
I'm going to go out on a limb and say even if next year is harder in reality,
even if next year is harder in reality, I think that it's going to be more
I think that it's going to be more optimistic
optimistic because you have an opportunity to
because you have an opportunity to actually deal with reality.
actually deal with reality. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And to me,
>> And to me, >> I think I think Yeah. I Yeah. I there is
>> I think I think Yeah. I Yeah. I there is a lot of that. Um, I think it it can be
a lot of that. Um, I think it it can be like things are just so grim that like
like things are just so grim that like hope is is going to be the thing that
hope is is going to be the thing that you got to have to like get through, you
you got to have to like get through, you know, like [laughter] uh uh that much
know, like [laughter] uh uh that much more of a a precious resource. Yeah.
more of a a precious resource. Yeah. >> Yeah. And sometimes like terrible times
>> Yeah. And sometimes like terrible times are what bring people together.
are what bring people together. >> Yes. you know, instead of this like I I
>> Yes. you know, instead of this like I I don't know. There's just there's every
don't know. There's just there's every morning when I look at the news and I
morning when I look at the news and I think a lot of people feel this way like
think a lot of people feel this way like are we're really doing this like the
are we're really doing this like the just kind of the crazy making of like
just kind of the crazy making of like how is this real? Like that's I think
how is this real? Like that's I think the thing that like can just deaden the
the thing that like can just deaden the soul when you feel like it just keeps
soul when you feel like it just keeps getting like crazier and crazier but no
getting like crazier and crazier but no one cares. I think people might start to
one cares. I think people might start to care.
care. >> Yeah, we'll see.
>> Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. No, but I I I think so. I
We'll see. No, but I I I think so. I mean, I think so. Um, you know, what
mean, I think so. Um, you know, what what's happening now in the country? I
what's happening now in the country? I mean, ironically, it's something that,
mean, ironically, it's something that, um, you know, the CIA orchestrated a lot
um, you know, the CIA orchestrated a lot of Latin American and and Asian
of Latin American and and Asian countries to do, uh, you know, um, to
countries to do, uh, you know, um, to their own governments and now it's
their own governments and now it's they're doing it to their own people.
they're doing it to their own people. It's funny how it seemed like like right
It's funny how it seemed like like right now I'm thinking like, oh, of course it
now I'm thinking like, oh, of course it wound up like this. But it's the kind of
wound up like this. But it's the kind of thing that was unthinkable until it
thing that was unthinkable until it happened. And then it just seems so
happened. And then it just seems so obvious like, oh, of course eventually
obvious like, oh, of course eventually they would wind up doing, you know,
they would wind up doing, you know, after doing this to to including
after doing this to to including Venezuela, but you know, Argentina,
Venezuela, but you know, Argentina, Brazil, uh, Chile, you know, Indonesia,
Brazil, uh, Chile, you know, Indonesia, Guatemala, uh, um, that that, you know,
Guatemala, uh, um, that that, you know, it's now just an in-house operation. It
it's now just an in-house operation. It all seems so inevitable, but it's like
all seems so inevitable, but it's like it's like watching, you know, the
it's like watching, you know, the Tarantino movie and at the end you're
Tarantino movie and at the end you're going, "Oh, of course he's killing the
going, "Oh, of course he's killing the Manson family." you know, like, you
Manson family." you know, like, you know, like at the end it's like, oh, of
know, like at the end it's like, oh, of course he was going in this direction,
course he was going in this direction, but until it happens, you're like,
but until it happens, you're like, what's what's going on? What's going on?
what's what's going on? What's going on? Um, I think it's kind of like that, you
Um, I think it's kind of like that, you know. Um Um, for me it's it's
know. Um Um, for me it's it's >> that's a great analogy. [laughter]
>> that's a great analogy. [laughter] >> Yeah. No, because when I was watching
>> Yeah. No, because when I was watching that movie the first time, I'm like, "Oh
that movie the first time, I'm like, "Oh my god, what's going to happen? The
my god, what's going to happen? The Manson family, they're coming for Sharon
Manson family, they're coming for Sharon Tate." And then, well, spoiler alert,
Tate." And then, well, spoiler alert, you know, it's it's not it's not it's
you know, it's it's not it's not it's not history. It's alternative history.
not history. It's alternative history. um you know he had already made the the
um you know he had already made the the the um the the movie where he kills
the um the the movie where he kills Hitler in a movie theater. So you know I
Hitler in a movie theater. So you know I should have known uh um that there was a
should have known uh um that there was a track record there. But anyway, I
track record there. But anyway, I digress. The point being um I think
digress. The point being um I think what's happening in the country now um
what's happening in the country now um now seems inevitable in this way that it
now seems inevitable in this way that it was unthinkable, you know, until it
was unthinkable, you know, until it actually happened. It's a really weird
actually happened. It's a really weird way that that's played out,
way that that's played out, >> right?
>> right? I for one am ready to get out of the
I for one am ready to get out of the insane asylum and get back to a little
insane asylum and get back to a little bit of reality. So, uh that's that's my
bit of reality. So, uh that's that's my optimistic take for the the year that
optimistic take for the the year that like we we can handle whatever they
like we we can handle whatever they throw at us. I just can't handle being
throw at us. I just can't handle being in a straight jacket anymore.
in a straight jacket anymore. So,
So, >> I I do think despite all the sort of,
>> I I do think despite all the sort of, you know, somewhat grim things I've
you know, somewhat grim things I've said, I do think we wind up with a
said, I do think we wind up with a better version of what we had in a few
better version of what we had in a few years time, but it's just it's not going
years time, but it's just it's not going to happen overnight. And it's there's
to happen overnight. And it's there's going to be some, you know, some pain to
going to be some, you know, some pain to it before we get there.
it before we get there. >> Yep. Okay. So, last thing. I know we I
>> Yep. Okay. So, last thing. I know we I keep trying to wrap up and then I keep
keep trying to wrap up and then I keep talking because I'm having fun. I hope
talking because I'm having fun. I hope everyone
everyone >> likewise having fun. um
>> likewise having fun. um that you know I looked at my transits
that you know I looked at my transits for the next few years and I was like ah
for the next few years and I was like ah for God's sakes like I don't get a break
for God's sakes like I don't get a break like you know because I do readings for
like you know because I do readings for people and and I I'm a very big picture
people and and I I'm a very big picture astrologer and I'll be like yeah this
astrologer and I'll be like yeah this doesn't look too bad for you coming up
doesn't look too bad for you coming up anyway I've got I'm getting hit all over
anyway I've got I'm getting hit all over the place and you know I had to remind
the place and you know I had to remind myself I've been hit for a few years and
myself I've been hit for a few years and like I'm fine like all these wonderful
like I'm fine like all these wonderful things happened I started this channel I
things happened I started this channel I started teaching courses I got to meet
started teaching courses I got to meet you like really great things happen even
you like really great things happen even when you're in the midst of very
when you're in the midst of very challenging transits. So
challenging transits. So try to if you're looking at your own
try to if you're looking at your own chart or when you're hearing about the
chart or when you're hearing about the what's coming up, try to have that lens
what's coming up, try to have that lens of that and great channel. Go back and
of that and great channel. Go back and look at my holiday video with Darice.
look at my holiday video with Darice. She's so good. Darice said something
She's so good. Darice said something that really stuck with me is that um
that really stuck with me is that um you're not being tested, you're being
you're not being tested, you're being trained.
trained. >> I love that.
>> I love that. >> I loved that.
>> I loved that. >> And um so I'm going to link her below
>> And um so I'm going to link her below because we need to get her in the
because we need to get her in the algorithm. Uh so she's she's a brand new
algorithm. Uh so she's she's a brand new kind of unknown astrologer who started a
kind of unknown astrologer who started a YouTube channel. She's good. Um but
YouTube channel. She's good. Um but anyway, look at this. This year we're
anyway, look at this. This year we're being it's a training ground for the
being it's a training ground for the blossoming to come.
blossoming to come. >> [clears throat]
>> [clears throat] >> We're not, you know, we can look at it
>> We're not, you know, we can look at it as being tested because it might suck
as being tested because it might suck sometimes, but you know, you can also
sometimes, but you know, you can also look at it very Aries training, you
look at it very Aries training, you know, suiting up, putting on your
know, suiting up, putting on your warrior gear.
warrior gear. >> That's right,
>> That's right, >> Nick. It's been lovely. Thank you so
>> Nick. It's been lovely. Thank you so much.
much. >> Thank you, Debbie. Um, yeah. Um, just a
>> Thank you, Debbie. Um, yeah. Um, just a reminder, Nick Denbstrologer.com.
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University and Nadia Shaw. And I'm going to put that link below. And then I have
to put that link below. And then I have um a discount on my foundations course.
um a discount on my foundations course. It's half off for $34 if you ever want
It's half off for $34 if you ever want to learn how to read your own natal
to learn how to read your own natal chart. And then I'm just launching with
chart. And then I'm just launching with two live sessions and five pre-recorded
two live sessions and five pre-recorded videos my transit course and that's only
videos my transit course and that's only $89. So if you want to figure out where
$89. So if you want to figure out where all these things are happening in your
all these things are happening in your chart this year, that's the course for
chart this year, that's the course for you. Okay, enough of my plug. So get a
you. Okay, enough of my plug. So get a reading from N. take some classes with
reading from N. take some classes with me and remember to like, subscribe, and
me and remember to like, subscribe, and share. Go over and subscribe to Nick's
share. Go over and subscribe to Nick's channel. He doesn't post that often, but
channel. He doesn't post that often, but he It's coming. It's coming. He's
he It's coming. It's coming. He's working.
working. >> Yeah, it's coming. It's It's the
>> Yeah, it's coming. It's It's the software is about to come out, and when
software is about to come out, and when it does, then I've got this barrage of
it does, then I've got this barrage of videos I'm getting ready to release. So,
videos I'm getting ready to release. So, yeah, I will be very active in the video
yeah, I will be very active in the video making business in 2026. So, get ready.
making business in 2026. So, get ready. >> Oh my gosh. So, I'm happy to have him
>> Oh my gosh. So, I'm happy to have him here until he's super busy and won't
here until he's super busy and won't come on anymore. Okay, everybody. Thank
come on anymore. Okay, everybody. Thank you. so much. Happy New Year 2026.
you. so much. Happy New Year 2026. Breakthrough. Thank you, Nick. You take
Breakthrough. Thank you, Nick. You take care. Thank you.
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