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This content is an interview with Marcus Rashford discussing his move to Barcelona, his adaptation to the club's training methods and culture, and his aspirations for the upcoming season and his career.
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Welcome to Barcelona. Almost 40 years
ago, I came to this place to play there
at the camp. Now,
>> Barcelona's manager, Terry Venibals, has
signed England's 25-year-old World Cup
hero, Gary Lker.
>> And now, Marcus Rashford is going to be
the next Englishman to do so.
I'm going to talk to him, but I thought
I'd bring this fellow with me.
How you doing?
>> Marcus, lovely to see you here in
Barcelona. Now, I don't know whether you
can remember and I've got a little bit
of film. We filmed together about I
don't know was four or five years ago
>> and you took me around the training
ground at Manchester United
>> and we talked if you have a little
listen here I'll try and play it.
When I went to Barcelona, right, Barcelona,
Barcelona,
>> the great training ground in those days,
it's it's like this now, obviously.
>> See the line of that red bit there? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And to here
>> in a that that was it on the side of the stadium.
stadium.
>> That was it.
>> Like a patch,
>> like a patch. And it was And that's the
train on every day right by the side of
the stadium. It's
>> it's like crazy.
>> I won't bore you with all of it.
>> But now you're here.
>> Now, who would have thought it? We were
talking about Barcelona's training
ground. Now you're on the training
ground, not the one I was, which is
right by the stadium and and it was a patch,
patch,
>> a field. Um,
>> how is it? It's held in.
>> Yeah. Um, yeah, it's obviously a new
experience for me, but just enjoying it
all. Um,
>> so yeah, it's exciting. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah,
>> he's looking lean, he looking good. I'm
looking at the gun. I'm a little bit
jealous, guys. I'm not going to lie.
>> You're going to compete. You're going to get
get
>> No, no, I'm not going to compete.
>> Get yours out. talking when we you just
came through the door about how
training's changed because you were
talking about how slim you are and all
that and saying that slightly different
here than
>> Yeah, it's very intense but it's intense
in a different way to English football.
It's hard to explain cuz like preseason
it's been tough. It's it's been draining
like I'm after training I'm tired and
stuff. Obviously the weather plays a
part as well,
>> but um it's not tough in the aspect
where in England you'd be doing like
loads of hard running. It's more like
mini games and um possession blocks.
It's less rest between each each exercises.
exercises.
>> More on the ball.
>> Yeah, more on the ball and it's more
like constant constant training. So
>> um in that way it's more more difficult
in terms of intensity, but it's easier
because you're in rhythm more. It's
definitely different, but you know, I'm
just looking forward to the the season
starting really cuz you know, that's
where I'll learn the most playing
against new new teams on a more consistent.
consistent.
>> Have you got any lingo? There we go.
>> Now I'm trying. I've had a couple of lessons
>> three times a week for two years.
>> It's better to do it that way though.
We're not.
>> It's the only way. You ain't going to
learn it just picking it up.
>> No, if you do that once a week. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Mark Hughes wasn't really having it.
>> Got no concentration.
He did two lessons and then give up.
>> To be fair, I'm going to get more
consistent lessons and just try it that
way because I tried a little bit on like
dual lingo and stuff, but it didn't
really help.
>> It's tough, isn't it?
>> It didn't really help me. Like I've done
loads of lessons on there, but then when
I started my my first like proper
lesson, it was different. Having been
had the experience myself of being here
and it was I have to say also it's it
was much easier when I was here
>> in the sense that practically nobody
spoke English so you kind of had to make
do back then
>> whereas now even when I come back now
you I speak Spanish pretty well
>> if I speak to people they they reply to
me in English which is bloody annoying
because you just want the chance to
practice but
>> I think it's appreciated by the fans if
you can say a little bit and it's
definitely appreciated perhaps in the
dressing room as well. They go, "Oh,
>> yeah." But for me as well, it's just
part of like the experience of being
there. So like
>> even if I didn't have to, I'd still want
to try and learn at least the basics. Anyway,
Anyway,
>> I tried Italian. Terrible.
>> You sounded fluent when you
>> No, no, no. My Italian is terrible.
>> How long did you play?
>> Uh I was there for just one year and I
had lessons and everything, but like the
teacher was laughing at me.
So when the teachers what what are you
supposed to do with the teachers
laughing at me? I'm trying my hardest
and after like two three weeks I thought
no this is not
>> the problem was she was laughing at you
while you were playing.
>> Yeah true
>> but it was just it was just amazing to
like have a different experience you
know like going into a new dressing room
obviously for you being at Man United
for so long then just going in and you
just trying to find your way. It's like
a new killer. You know what? Honestly, I
thought I thought it'd be a bit more
like daunting, but like it's pretty much
seamless. I think when you when you go
over something in your like in your head
and you visualize like being somewhere
like you just take everything as it goes
really. So, and it was similar to like
when I first went to Villa as well, like
you don't really know what to expect,
but because it's something that you're
looking forward to, it's not like a
worry, it's more just like an an
excitement. So,
>> can I ask you was you nervous though?
Because when I went to Florentina, I was
I was I was really nervous. I was
pretending like I was >> fine.
>> fine.
>> I was nervous as well. Way back.
>> Yeah. Way back. Yeah.
>> I don't know if it's like nerves or if
it's just like exam. And like when I
think of even stuff that I'm going to
find difficult. It's more of a challenge
and like exciting than it is scarier.
>> So I wouldn't say it's like nerve-wracking.
nerve-wracking.
But yeah, there is like a part of you
that's like, you know, like butterflies
in the stomach and stuff like that. But
like I said, it's for me that's like
positive stuff. All the positive things
that have happened in in my career, I
have that feeling anyways. It's almost
like when you don't have it, you you're
a bit comfortable.
>> Do you think the little spell at Villa
helped you to bridge the gap to make a
bigger step coming here?
>> Yeah, I reckon so
>> cuz you've been in Manchester.
>> Yeah. For so long. Yeah. And it's like
no matter where you go from being in a
certain place for for so long, it's a
change. But I feel like the the time the
timing of me going to to Villa was like
like now looking back it was the it was
the exact time for me to do something
like that. So um I feel like the the
response and the reaction I got from you
know the people at the club and like the
fans, it was probably what I needed um
on a personal level like in that in that
moment. But it's it's crazy because like
six months on like I feel like a like
everything's completely different but
without having that right uh period in
the middle maybe I won't be feeling how
I'm how I'm feeling now. So yeah I feel
like just everything that happened at at
Villa Bar the injury at the end was was
exactly how it was supposed to be.
>> It's a good club Villa isn't it?
>> No 100%. And I was speaking to my
brothers about it and like I remember
Villa got relegated from the Prem and
since then
>> I think he was playing he was playing
that was all doing that was
>> Oh you just knocked him across the six
yard box now.
>> No but um yeah so since then the club's
been on the up so when when I first went
there the atmosphere at the club's like
all positive and it was just exactly
what I needed in that period. But um
>> what's the language of the dressing room
out here in Barcelona? I just wondered
whether because it used to be Spanish
cuz people used say, "Oh, did you speak
Catalan or Spanish?" And they
>> No, it's still Spanish. Obviously, a lot
of the young lads speak Carlan,
>> but um the easy thing for me is a lot of
the lads understand English. So like on
the pitch, it's just about me picking up
on the basics, which I've done quite
quite quickly to be fair. So
>> a lot of them would speak English as well.
well.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And then there's good like
people that are like a bridge. So like
Frankie speaks really good English,
>> Jules speaks really good English, and
these guys have been here for a few
years now, so they speak good Spanish.
So on the pitch, it's it's honestly like
easier than what what I thought it'd be.
But also like football itself is just a
just a language. I know a lot of people
say it, but like if you understand each
other on the pitch, it's easier to to
communicate. You get like the general
general vibe on the pitch. So I've not
really had any any problems in in that
way. I think it's normal when you go to
a club and particularly in the early
days when you we've moved around and you
you normally kind of you find a friend. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Who's your friend? Yeah.
>> Uh to be fair all of the lads are like
maybe it's cuz they're all very young
but like
>> do you feel like the old man here? Well,
>> no. But you you do though because like
you have to think like 27 28 there's put
this way there's more players under 20
under 21 than there is past you know 28.
So it's like in your whole career you're
probably in like directly in the middle,
but in this team you're one of the
experienced lads.
>> Well, they like these young I mean
they're so good.
>> Honestly, it's so like refreshing to to
be playing with them. Um but yeah, it's
just every day they're full of energy
and you know it keeps you having having
energy as well. So um no, it's good.
Like they're all really talented, but
the thing that surprised me the most is
like how mature they all are like on the
pitch. They play the game at like their
own tempo. It's
>> so like better decision making.
>> It's just the way that they're
developed. It's it's different. Like in
England, you're developed to always show
your skill set. Whereas sometimes in
football, as you know, as you get older,
it's not there's a time and a place to
to show, you know, your your skill set.
So, for example, if your skill set's
dribbling, there's there's a time and a
place to be dribbling on on the pitch.
Whereas in England in in themies, like
if you're good at dribbling, they just
tell you to tell you to dribble. Yeah.
So, that's one of the first things that
I've realized and
>> it's like you look at someone like like
Pedri, I think he's 22 or 23
>> and it's like he's actually really
really young but he's just got that much
experience already playing at the you
know one of the biggest clubs in the
world and you know playing in some of
the biggest games.
>> Where have you been playing in the
preseason games? We're doing this just
before the start of the season this
coming up the weekend.
>> No, just a bit of everywhere really. Um,
but I've always I've always enjoyed
doing that, especially when you play
with so many passers in the in the team.
It's like playing on the right wing when
you've got so many passes in the
midfield than in the back line, it's
different cuz playing on the right wing
is probably my most more difficult
position out of the three. But um yeah,
once you can just assess spaces and
that's that's kind of the the main thing
that I'm trying to adapt to now because
I think
the way people defend here is is
obviously different to to in England. So
you see spaces in England cuz in England
you have to find the spaces so quickly
cuz of the the tempo the tempo and the
rhythm of the game. And I can imagine
it's it's similar here. But if you do
find the spaces quickly, you can you can
really hurt teams. And you you see that
when when you play against teams in
Europe. Um but like anywhere when you
play against teams consistently in a
league format, it's going to be
different. So it's just adjusting to
that as quickly as as quickly as
possible. But it's going to be going to
be exciting. You know, I'm looking
forward to, you know, this new sort of
atmosphere and new genre of of football.
So it'll be it'll be good. >> Okay.
Pa >> Men.
Ah, you [ __ ] Oh, sorry.
>> He was such a great coach.
>> Don't gamble. Take the initial run, but
once you've took it and the ball doesn't
come in, let it go and join the others.
>> Gary, you shouldn't be offside there.
You can look right along the line.
Oh, he's telling Porkies.
>> Do you remember I told you about the
catch on the side of the pitch?
>> Yeah, that's next to the stadium.
>> That was it. That was the training
ground all season. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> What's your favorite position?
>> Uh my favorite position is off the left,
>> but then it it does change throughout.
>> I know cuz I've heard you saying you
want he was happy playing up front and
then but you like left. It also just
depends who you're playing with, how
consistently other people play in the
positions that you receive the ball from
as well. So, it's difficult to like pin
down one position, but honestly, I've
been like this since a kid. It's been
hard for me to like
cuz I'll say it, I used to love the
right wing when I was when I was
younger, but then I learned as I got
like maybe to 13, 14, drifting inside
cuz I'm always controlling the ball on
my left. When I'm coming in off the
right hand side, and now you're
controlling off your right, it's more
different when I'm trying to accelerate.
So, it's more natural for me to control
on my left than accelerate with my with
my right foot, I can do it more swiftly
in in one movement. So, then I moved
over to the left and then I love playing
on the left, but then you miss scoring
goals and then when you are in the
middle, you miss touching the ball. So,
it's just like you need that like for me
when I'm at my best, I'm having that
freedom to exploit the back line. For
me, from the left is the easiest
position for me to do the the rotation
cuz on the left I find it more natural
to play off the center half shoulders
and the the fullback shoulders than I do
on the right. But it's all just it
depends game to game.
>> Well, football's never
>> Yeah, it's never the same. But then some
games I'll be on the left and even if I
have a good game, I'll be like I'll be
seeing what's happening on the right and
I'll be like, "Oh, I wish I was on the
on the right today." So, it's it's one
of them. But as long as I'm, you know,
helping the team and, you know, trying
to find ways to to have an influence on
the game, then, you know, I'll be I'll
be happy. And
>> certainly be playing attacking football.
That's for sure. Flex way of playing. I
mean, massive high line and you'll be
playing in the opposition.
>> Yeah. But it's perfect for the skill
sets of of the team. You know, there's
too much ability to be playing spending
too much of the game in in your in your
own half. So, you know, to to play the
high line, which honestly in the first
couple of weeks that I've been at, how
good they are at the high line is like
everyone looks like they're only just
offside, but the they're so confident in
the system. And for them to only be
doing it for one year and be that good
already is um really positive. So, it's
good, but honestly, I'm I'm still um
still learning it um which I probably
will be for for a while. But um it's a
listen it's attacking football and
that's what I that's what I want to be playing.
playing.
>> You're really you know happy with life
and the way it must be really exciting
looking forward to the start.
>> Honestly it's just like refreshing. We
we see how good they were last year but
like the motivation and the
determination to just improve and you
know we know it's going to be going to
be tough to have a year like they did
last year winning that many trophies but
that's the aim and that's the that's the
objective. So that was one of the first
things I noticed my first couple of days
here. Like everyone's pretty much
forgotten about last year and it's about
what we can do what we can do this year
now. So it's the the perfect environment
to go and be successful. [Music]
[Music]
>> It's good after 2 minutes mark the
pressure off
right place.
We're just talking about
What are your aims this season?
>> It's just to win. You know, I want to
have uh obviously a good individual
season, but like anyone will tell you,
if you have to choose between that and
and winning, you'd pick winning. So, um
yeah. So, if I if I aim to win, the the
chances are I'm going to have a good
individual season as well. It's going to
be tough getting it.
>> No, for sure.
>> But this is part of the challenge, you
know, and you know, if I wasn't
confident that um you know, I could do
it, then I wouldn't I wouldn't have have
wanted to to come here. So I think just
settling in and you know giving 100% and
and keep the the mindset of of learning
because I think like when you come to
like a new a new country a new brand of
football it's easy to think like
whatever we was doing in England is the
right way to play football but things
are different here. So I'm enjoying like
learning this and the players are
helping me learn learn um you know the
new brand of football. One criticism
from me in in your game is I feel like
you can be more selfish. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Because you get you get into great areas
then you always want to pass. I'm like
all the other players in in top of world
football are shooting.
>> No, for sure. But it's it's just that's
how I enjoy football. I've been like
this since a kid. Like I don't get me
wrong, I love scoring goals and stuff,
but so like this is why I I probably
can't consistently be a number nine because
because >> okay,
>> okay,
>> like it's not natural for me to to do
that. So if I am doing that, I feel like
I'm forcing it and I know that I'm
missing other pictures of the game that
if I was just playing freely, I'd be
seeing these these pictures. So there's
a lot of times where like I don't shoot
because I feel like the chance of it
being blocked and missing a chance for
the team rather than just for me is
pretty high. But then also that like the
strike of him is like if I can get it
through his legs,
>> if I can get my shot off through his
legs, there's a high chance of it going
in. Yeah. So it's like finding the
balance. But, you know, to in this
generation to to consistently play
number nine, you have to be you have to
be selfish cuz, you know, you you're
required now to score, you know, 40
goals a
>> 40 goals a season. So, you need to be
you need to be shooting more frequently.
It's like I don't put too much pressure
on on the goal scoring side because I
just know like I'm I'm confident that if
I'm doing the right things, I'll I'll
create chances for others and I'll I'll
be in a position to to have shots and
and uh score goals.
>> Yeah. I just just to uh elaborate on
that though because I think we're now in
a in a era where everyone talks about
goals and assists. So when you was at
Aston Villa, I was raving about you and
um we did a FA Cup game, didn't we? And
I was saying the best I've probably seen
him play playing for Villa. But at the
end of it, then people say, "Well, he
only scored that amount of goal." Do you
know what I mean? But they're not
looking. I look at the full game. People now
now
>> It's because you It's because you played though,
though,
>> of course.
>> So like I'm a winner at the end of the
day and I want to win. So if the team's
won, I can analyze the game and whatever
I need to change and adjust to score
more goals, I can do that in more of
like a seamless way. And that's the way
I've always, it's not just in sports,
that's the way I learn. Like if I put
too much pressure on myself to like, oh,
you need to score goals, you need to
shoot, I ain't going to I'm not going
to, you know, play well.
>> Yeah. Have you always been I mean take
you back
>> perhaps now to your childhood and where
where this talent came from and
>> Yeah. So I was a goalkeeper at first actually.
actually.
>> No way. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> I got bored in in that.
>> I got We must be talking what?
>> At Fletcher. >> Fletcher.
>> Fletcher.
>> So my first year was in that. But then I
think I remember like my brother was
telling me I was moaning like everyone's
always having fun like scoring goals and stuff.
stuff.
>> So I wanted to go out field. I'm always
going to be a player that enjoys the
intricate things that people might not
speak about all the time in football,
but like creating space. And people
always say like, "Oh, just running
behind. Just running behind." But
sometimes running in behind it's like
the run's not on.
>> So like forwards know it.
>> No, we know it. But like sometimes
midfielders they don't know it. They
just say running behind. Sometimes the
timing and the space it doesn't connect.
So there's no point running in behind
cuz it doesn't affect the back line.
That's my that's what I want to do from
a run. If your timing's off and if
there's there's no eye contact between
the person on the ball and and me, the
center halfs can see all that. This is
why striker is the most difficult
position on the pitch because your backs hold.
hold.
>> It is though because your back's to goal
and the defenders can see everything
you're looking at but we can't see
everything the defenders are looking at.
>> Hold on. Hold on. This is why
>> you could have a rubbish game. Rubbish.
And he was the master at that rubbish
game and then gets a tap in and he is
the hero.
>> How many How many of my games have you watched?
watched?
>> How do you know you're a rubbish game? I
understand I understand that aspect, but
when I go back into into midfield, the
game's easier
>> because you can see everything
everything's there forward. So for
someone like me, like I don't like to
pass backwards. So like when when you
want to go forward as often as possible,
you need to be on the half turn all the
time, but sometimes you can't. You don't
have the time to be on the half turn. So
now you need to, you know, know your
surroundings, scanning all the time, um,
know when to bounce, know when to when
you can turn, and ultimately you need to
be in the right areas to score and and
assist goals.
>> Might have to stay for the classicalico hatrick.
hatrick.
>> 120,000 people back then. >> 120
>> 120
>> 120,000. Yeah.
Two goals in the first five minutes. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah,
>> That'll do. Patrick, I'm going there.
But it's Yeah. So, I'd like you to
experience that. It's quite a tasty thing.
thing.
>> Yeah. I hope so. >> Stuff.
>> Stuff.
>> because I used to get the same sort of
stuff because there's a certain
understanding that you need to have to
play in in forward positions whether
it's wide or as as you said in the nine position
position
>> and but you're clearly a very thoughtful
guy. We we all know that many things
that you've done not just on the pitch
but off the pitch as well. Um have you
always been like deeply thoughtful about
not just the game but life itself? Yeah,
it's just like attention to to detail.
So, it doesn't even matter like what I'm
doing. It's like if I'm invested in it,
I need to try and do it to what I see as
like the best like the best way for me
to to do it. I think I've just been like
that since since before I can remember.
And it's it's just like, you know, my
like my family always say like, oh, if
they call me like a perfectionist
because like if someone challenges me to
do something, I don't just want to do it
in a way that everyone deems as like,
oh, he's one and that's a that's a good
way to do it. Like if it's not right in
the way that I've like planned it or
thought about it, it's like I I'll keep
redoing stuff.
>> Do you know how good you are though?
>> No, I was going to say do honestly in
ter off the field. Don't forget off the
field for a moment on on the field you
don't understand. I don't think you
understand how good you are.
>> I just think it's like and I always have
something to prove to to myself. So it's
>> you hard on yourself.
>> Yeah. More like I'm more hard on myself
than anyone can be harsh on me. So it's
like this is when you touched on like
criticism before.
>> I ignore a lot of people
>> but it's not like a defense mechanism.
It's just like like I have my own
version and my own image of of what I
deem to be good. So like
>> when things are not going really well
for you and you've had a career that's
like everybody's career down I played a
tough season here last season here at Barcelona.
Barcelona.
>> Um do you get down a bit?
>> Is it you find it difficult?
>> Uh it's not necessarily like being
upset. It's it's um yeah it's
frustrating but the be all and end all
is if it leads to to trophies everything
gets gets put aside. So like your
individual career is nothing without
this team version and that's also a part
of football that I that I love. Do you
think sometimes you get unfairly
criticized because of who you are and
what you've done? Not necessarily on the pitch,
pitch,
>> but I always thought it was, you know,
I'm a massive supporter of what you did.
I mean, I think pretty much everyone is
is incredible what you did.
>> You shifted government policy and all
that sort of stuff. It was it was
remarkable. Always my fear was that the
minute he has a bad spell,
>> they'll blame that. Obviously, I'm
saying this that this is cuz I I'd feel
it a little bit, but
>> I think some of the times the criticism
for you, you might go on a night out.
You might go out in an outfit, a certain outfit.
outfit. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And that will be criticized. I don't
think that would be criticized if that
was a white player.
>> Like, I honestly think it it's not
because people don't want to highlight
it. I just think people don't care anymore.
anymore.
>> I just don't think you can change those
people's opinions anyway. It's more
about going forward and sort of changing
the opinions of of the youth. You know,
I've suffered it when I was coming
through, but nothing nothing changes.
People will always say what they want to say.
say.
>> You'll notice it's different here.
>> Yeah. Yeah. 100%. And I spoke to you
will. And that's what I've said in terms
of the football. They'll be incredibly
critical. If you if you're not
performing on the pitch,
>> they won't bother about your life off
the pitch. you know they they won't
they'll respect your life off the pitch
even when you walk around people will be
respectful you and you get that in
England as well mostly but I'm talking
particularly in terms of the media they
will be very f in this city alone in
Barcelona you've got two daily
newspapers that only cover Barcelona
football club pretty much de politivo
and el sport esport they say
and um and they they do everything I
remember the I remember when Terry
Venibals it wasn't very well one Okay.
And the front page headline because I
had to fill the newspaper every day was
Venibals has diarrhea.
So, but they will but we used to go out.
We used to go out and they don't they
won't as long as you're performing on
the pitch and even then they they won't
blame it on something else like that. We
>> perhaps do in our country a little bit
too much. The media do. I don't think
the general public I think most general
public have massive amount of respect
for footballs. But I think you really
enjoy that.
>> You know, the couple of times I've been
for like meals and stuff, it's been it's
people of Barcelona
um if they come up to you, they're very
polite and ask you nicely for your
autograph. Don't like to disturb you too much.
much.
>> They might move from club to club in
England. They know about the players and
it's moved from one place to the other
and it's just a little bit different but
not a lot. You got an old environmental
change, you know, um living in a hotel,
moving house, not sure what's going to
happen and then the difficulty of the language.
language.
>> And this is where they put us. It's not
like this place. You're in the hotel. >> Hello.
>> Fluent.
>> That's a good lie.
>> That was the first week.
>> What about England? That's I mean
there's there's obviously World Cup
coming up next summer. You're at
Barcelona, one of the biggest clubs in
the world in one of the best teams at
present in the world. You want to get
back in the
>> Yeah. Yeah. 100%. um this current like
group of English players is extremely
talented and you know it's going to be
disappointing if we don't manage to you
know do something really special because
I think we've we've come on a lot and
for the last few years it's been just
the next step is for us to to go and win.
win.
>> England have been very very close.
They're knocking on the door.
>> Yeah, we're right there. But you you can
see with a lot of the teams that are
winning stuff currently, they've also
had this um
>> period, but no matter how many times
people say, "Oh, we were this close,
that close." Like the important thing is
getting over the line. It's definitely
an exciting exciting period. Obviously,
you know, there's a new coach there in
and uh Thomas.
>> Have you How do you get on with him?
>> Yeah, he's a top top coach. Um good guy.
I think being an international coach is,
you know, quite quite difficult,
especially from someone who's used to,
you know, spending lots of time in
place. People don't understand how short
of a time you have to prepare for these
major competitions. It's only, you know,
four camps, five camps in in the year,
10 days a piece. So, you know, 40 odd
days together to to try and win a World
Cup is not a lot. But he's he's a coach
that pays um huge attention to to
detail. And, you know, you can see that.
I've seen that straight away from from
the first couple of training sessions
with him. So, um yeah, I'm looking
forward to to what he'll bring to to the
to the team.
>> And being here, I suppose, you know, if
you perform well at Barcelona, it gives
puts you in a really good
>> Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Like, um honestly,
I try not to put too too much um
pressure on on like the England setup.
It's it's clearly something that I that
I want to do, but you don't get that
without, you know, putting in the the
hard work just day in day out and, you
know, showing that that hard work on the
on the pitch. So, that's a, you know, a
knock on effect to to the stuff that
I'll I'll be doing day in day out.
>> I think what's clouded a few people's
visions is cuz you don't speak that much.
much.
>> I'm honestly fine with people having
their opinion on me regardless. You
know, you're doing I'm doing the thing
that I love to do every day. I can't I
don't want anything else. I think it was
You that said something actually like
your discipline is more important than
your motivation because sometimes you
wake up and you're not motivated. It's
the discipline that keeps you in check
to get yourself out of bed, go to
training on time and you know work when
you don't necessarily want to work. You
know study the game, study your
opponents when you you might be tired or
you might have a headache or you might
be ill. But these are the things that
people don't really, you know, pick up
on. So it's like
>> it's hard for them for general public to
understand what goes into making a top
class professional.
>> I don't expect the the general public to
understand that. Like some of my friends
that are in other sports,
like I'm a huge fan of like boxing. I
don't have a clue what it takes to
become a professional boxer. Like I like
to watch and watch him train, watch him
compete, but like I can't start voicing
my opinion out to the public on what I
think this person needs to do because he
lost his last fight.
>> Like who am I to I don't know what it
takes. I'm more like lenient towards the
public having their opinion cuz they're
not to know. Whereas like when it's like
ex players that know the game and like
then I just I get confused about it. Like
Like
>> why do you think that is though ex
players? I don't know. Why do you think
they are?
>> I don't know. Alls I know is like
>> he's done.
>> No, for me all I know is like when I
come to retire I ain't going to be doing
that. Like it's as simple as that. I
don't want to put players down. I want
to if anything lift players cuz
ultimately that brings they're going to
play better on on the pitch. So, it's
like at the end of the day, we all love
watching like exciting stuff on the pitch.
pitch.
>> I think you'd make a really good pundit.
>> No, no, I'm not joking. I mean, you talk
very like very intelligently about the
game, about the positions, about the
different roles that you have to play as
a forward. You can go into it. I I don't
think I've upset too many players.
>> You're a host.
>> That's why the question be a host.
>> No, we'll see. Um,
>> what about the managers that you've
played for? I mean I mean it's also not
that easy when they're turned over as
regular as they've been at Manchester
United in the f because you it's hard
isn't it? You suddenly change and then
it's a different one and then
>> who have been the most influential on you?
you?
>> Influential I'd probably say Vanal. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Um Jos and
>> very different
>> Ollie. Yeah, they're different but
because of what you just mentioned,
we've had so many different managers.
It's so hard to like it's impossible to
for me to compare the managers. But when
you're a developing player, like at a
young age, you learn stuff that you've
never no one's ever taught you that
before. So like up until Jose, I'd never
had a manager that was so fixated on winning
winning
>> before Jose.
>> Van wasn't fixated.
>> He was fixated on winning, but he wanted
to play a a beautiful style of football.
Jose don't care. Do you know what I
mean? As long as you win, of course he
if he could choose, he'd want you to
play well. But if you win, you win. You
move on to the next game. And he had
this attitude. And in the beginning, it
was confusing for me because all the way
through my development at United, it was
about playing a certain style of like
winning a certain way. So in the
beginning, I was angry all the time like
we've not played well today. We've won.
But because we've won and he's a manager
that just he's just he's just a winner.
He doesn't bring up the points that you
know was missing from that last game
because we've won, but when we lose, he
brings up the points then. >> But
>> But
>> after like 6 months, I like just learned
to like respect it and then I started to
read the rewards from him as a as a
coach. I'm in awe of the way he's
talking about different systems cuz
obviously I like the tactical side of
the game as well, but just like how he's
created different things in his head for
different managers and when he's talking
about the the movement cuz obviously at
Barcelona you're going to play a high
line. So if you win the ball back within
3 seconds, you're pretty much on on goal.
goal.
>> Sometimes at United and we don't need to
speak about United but just in terms of
their style of play at times they would
be so deep when you got the ball you
have to take on three or four players.
>> Yeah. Show me a successful team that
just adapts. When Fergie was was in charge,
charge,
not only the principles for the first
team, the whole academy set up so you
could pick players from 15 years and
over that's a full generation and they'd
all understand the principles of playing
the Man United way. So you see it with
any any team that's been successful over
a period of time. They have principles
that any coach that comes in, any player
that comes in has to align to these
principles or be able to add to these
principles. Whereas like at times I feel
like United have just been we're hungry
to win. So we'll always try to, you
know, to adapt and to sign players that
fit this system. But like it's
reactionary. If your direction's always
changing, you can't expect to be able to
to win the league. Yeah, you might win
some cup tournaments, but it's because
you've you've got you do have a good
coach and you do have good players and
you have match winners in your team.
You're not there by accident. Like, this
is what some people forget. So yeah,
we've been way below what we where we
deem United to to be. But then if you
take like a step back, which I've been
able to do, especially over like the
last 6 months, what do you expect?
>> People say we've been in a transition
for years. To be in a transition, you
have to start the transition. So it's
like the actual transition's not started
yet. So like when Liverpool went through
this, they got Klopp, they stuck with him.
him. >> Mhm.
>> Mhm.
didn't win in the beginning.
>> True. Do
>> you know what I mean? People only
remember the his final few years when he
was, you know, competing with City and
winning the the biggest trophies. Didn't
win in the beginning.
>> Tough time.
>> So, it's like to start a transition, you
have to make a plan and stick stick to
it. So, this is the thing that I think
>> it's not easy to do though, is it? If
you're not think it's not going well, the
the
>> 100%. But this is where I speak about
like being realistic with
>> like what your situation is. I feel like
we've had that many different managers
and different ideas and different like
strategies in order to win. You end up
in the middle of like you end up in no
man's land.
>> So, does it hurt you?
>> Yeah, 100%. But not only as like a
player, just as like a United fan. Yeah.
>> Looking ahead now, you're here for a
loan. Obviously, the loan spell, but
would you I mean, I presume you'd like
to be successful here, win trophies,
stay here for a few years.
>> Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And
>> you know what I deem as success is is
growth. So if you think about it,
they're a team that's like, you know, a
few years before they found themselves
in a in a tricky spot, but they stuck to
what their roots. Do you know what I
mean? The their principles are, yeah, it
might be a slightly different brand of
Barcelona in terms of like there's so
many young players in in the same setup,
but this is what it is. and they've
found a way for that to be one of the
driving forces of a really successful
successful team. So, if I can bring like
my own attributes and skill sets into a
a winning setup, I I honestly think it's
it's going to be a a really positive
year. So,
>> I have to say it's lovely to have an
Englishman playing at Barcelona.
>> No, it's it's been a it's been a
>> What year was it?
>> Um 1923
was um 86 to 89. just just oh god 36
years ago.
>> Why do you think it's been like so long now?
now?
>> I don't know. There was one guy that
played one game a few years ago. Um his
name was also Marcus. You're not even
the first Marcus for Barcelona and he
played um just a few minutes of the
Super Cup game when everyone was out
injured and stuff. But um I don't know
why it is because Real Madrid have had
seven Englishmen. Can you name them? Owen
Owen
>> David Beckham
>> Beckham Owen >> Manaman
>> Manaman >> three
>> three >> Woodgate
>> Woodgate >> four
>> four
>> Jude Beckham >> five
>> five
>> Owen Beckham >> Trent
>> Trent
>> trench one more the first one I'll give
you a clue it's way back what a
footballer he was
>> how long how long we're talking
>> we're talking
I think 70s late 70s 80s early 80s
>> I've got no
>> was it um
>> he was one of three players of West Brom Yes.
Yes.
>> Marcus's brother is in the back with
Lorie Cunningham. He's
>> He was there.
>> I know. I know what it's like. It's I've
been waiting a long time for another
English player to play and um yeah, I
really hope you're incredibly
successful. First game is Morca away. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Let's get to the interest. Can we get
tickets now? I mean I mean style, you know,
know,
we can we can solve numbers and I was
miss Yeah. Well, can I give you one word
of advice before you play away at Morca?
Don't do what I did with Mark Hughes.
>> We played Morca away in the second game.
We'd won the first game two, scored
both. Um and we went and played Morca
away. It was nil nil. And Terry Venibals
was the manager of of Barcelona then.
And um he said you go out for a couple
of drinks. Be sensible. We weren't very
sensible. And the bus was leaving for
the airport. I think it was about 7:00
a.m. the next morning. And we could have
stumbled onto the bus from the night
out. And Terry Ben was just sat on the
front row and he just went,
"For [ __ ] sake,
So, don't do that. We went to Magalof. I
mean, you do, don't you?
>> He wasn't a good pro,
>> huh? He wasn't a good pro back then.
>> I was a good pro except for that night.
But generally, I was a good pro, but
Mark Hughes is a very bad example.
>> You led me astray. He led me astray. Oh,
so I I wish you all the very best.
>> Yeah. No, it's going to be it's going to
be good.
>> It it will be. And thank you so much for
your time. It's great to be here to see
you and see you in such good spirits.
We're watching you play
>> in Barana. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> 15 goals. I want >> 15.
>> 15.
>> No, 15 goals.
>> 15 goals and 10 assists. That's all I'm asking.
asking. [Music]
>> What we doing in the stadium then? What
is the
>> It's just con There's like an extra tier.
tier.
>> Oh, put a little tier on there. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> I've been here. Have you been here? [Music]
[Music]
>> All right. Cheers, guys. Appreciate it.
Nice to see you. Good to see you, bro.
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