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This podcast episode features a discussion with military personnel about the Army's modernization efforts, focusing on technological advancements, bureaucratic challenges, and the importance of adapting to future warfare, all while highlighting the dedication and capability of soldiers.

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Put a bunch of paratroopers together,

give them ISVS, and give them Starlink,

and it's pretty amazing what they can

accomplish. Like, what if we just didn't

put soldiers in really situations all

the time? What are we paying him for,

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Eli. He's racially ambiguous.

Brandon, his hair is fabulous. Donut, a

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Hi everyone. Welcome to the unsubscribe

podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double

Tap, Dr. Alex Miller, Colonel Butler,

Brandon Herrera, myself, Donut Operator.

Thank you so much for coming. Hi,

welcome everyone and welcome guys. You

get damn good to be here, dude. We're

excited to have you. Excited to be here.

This is your first time. It is. I I feel

Dr. Alex, but it's fine. Here's how

here's how it went down. I said to

General George, "Hey, I'm going on

unsubscribe podcast." And he was like,

"Yeah, great. Alex is going with you."

Super serious. Like, you're not going

alone. He didn't trust you. Well, Alex

really knows what he's talking about. I

kind of know. No, I just use very fancy

words and people trust me. He's a

doctor. He gave you the You got to bring

Totally flat. Good. You were taking Alex

with you. Yes, sir. Of course. Yeah. I'm

surprised they like How was it after the

first episode aired for you guys? Was it

you guys? Pentagon one, huh? The

Pentagon one. Yeah, the Pentagon one. It

was like super positive response on our

side and you actually were like, "Holy

[ __ ] this is a lot of positivity." Oh,

man. Yeah. Well, I mean, you guys bring

a very positive vibe and you know,

that's one of the reasons we love you.

That's one of the reasons your fans love

you. That's they bring the positive

vibe. We just got lucky. Yeah. I don't

know. I mean, you stay generally, you

know, you like you stay positive and

it's just first of all, it's a great

freaking pod to listen to. But, um, so

what was your reaction from the

Pentagon? There were the haters. They're

like, "What are you doing?" Uh, I got I

got a funny like team's message. Are you

promoting drinking in the Pentagon? I

was like, uh, I don't think it needs to

be promoted.

I was like, wait, are you talking about

the podcast or in general?

Cuz I have been known. Um, do you But

uh, but the the forward thinking people

are like, I'm so glad what you guys are

doing. you know, what what they see you

guys do for the community, for people

interested in the military, for just

people interested in general. Uh, it's

great. I think it was a blast. I mean,

that was one of those staple like, we

still talk about that. It's one of those

weird, holy [ __ ] that was a thing. I'm

not surprised that there would be people

in the Pentagon that were would be

talking down about it. But at the same

time, it's

a it's quite an interesting thing

considering just a few months prior, you

know, the the entire world got to see

what the medium of podcast did to I

don't know, let's say a presidential

election, right, and see that power and

go, nah,

but that's probably not it. That's Well,

yeah, definitely not it. Yeah, I guess.

Nah, that's not going to last. The other

the other part is Can we do more print

media? Yeah. All of it. Long form like

newspapers. Um just being able to

communicate, right? So So normally the

Pentagon doesn't talk to the people. We

talk through all kinds of of

spokespeople and you know they sort of

hear about it. So for leadership just to

go, hey, I'm going to I'm going to we're

going to have a conversation. We're just

going to tell you what we're thinking.

We're just going to be very open. That

is antithetical to how a lot of

bureaucrats were raised. and being able

to go from the chief and the chief

spokesman and like people on the staff

down to every private every sergeant

every officer in the army and go hey

here's what's happening unheard of so

the reaction from the force was hey I

also want to drink white claws but it

was hey that's an awesome message thank

you for doing that yeah yeah that's all

I mean even from all of us it was that

standpoint and seeing behind the camera

because you did have specialists that

were laughing in the background and you

got to you guys didn't get to see them

but That guy's a full drum by the way.

Gone. Gone. It's just an awesome

experience and one we will always

remember. And it I mean you Google like

fat electrician first person to drink officially

officially

and that's like staple in AI now and

everything. Said Dick slammed it. We

didn't know he was racing. Did you see

that? That part. Oh yeah. Yeah. Nick was

just I'm the first person to do it.

Dick. Yeah, he made the big

announcement. If I knew it was that

special of a thing, cuz I knew it was

like, "Oh, wow. That's that's really

cool that we get like a waiver." But I

didn't know it was like first officially

drank consumed al alcoholic beverage in

the Pentagon.

Probably didn't speak easy. Rain on

anybody's parade, but it's probably not

the first alcoholic beverage consumed in

the Pentagon. officially like signed off on

I mean there's like there's there's uh

what like you mean we were supposed to

ask social occasions and stuff there the

process exists but it was certainly the

first one doing a podcast in the

Pentagon and on you know drinking a

white claw during a podcast anyway I'm a

spokesman I can make it the first of

anything if you know

Yeah, but I was if if we knew it was

that special of an occasion, we would

have cho probably chosen something other

than a white claw. I would have maybe

like brought some I don't know, decent

bourbon or something for everybody. I

actually So the feedback I I did get

some [ __ ] about that. Yeah, white claws

really. And then I guess I said people's drink.

drink.

I love the smell of white claw in the

morning. So people quoted that back to

me. That's right. I mean, Alex is a big

White Claw guy, so he was like, "I'm

soft and supple. Leave me alone."

We I mean, that was We probably would

have got out like a bourbon of some type

and then been completely [ __ ] wrecked by

the end of it cuz we would have finished

it. You should have got the race. Yeah,

it would have been a very big race. Nick

is still just slamming us would have

been a harder exception.

We're only drinking three bottles of

bourbon. So, you know, I had to remember

I had to count the number of bite claws,

which we miscounted. But the only person

to ever say eight,

the special eight pack. So, what is it

now after that? It's like, okay, hey, do

we normalize that or is that like more

people at the Pentagon? Podcast, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, like podcast, anything

at the Pentagon is like, "Okay, hey,

let's start introducing this media for

the military aspect of it." Um, so we

haven't uh but General George is like,

we we just made a big announcement.

Hope, you know, we're going to talk

about that here today, but we just made

a big announcement, probably the most

fundamental change of our lifetimes for

the army. And uh General George is like,

"Get me on a bunch of podcasts." And

Secretary Driscoll is right behind. And

so, uh, yeah, he that's the way he's

thinking at least and, uh, and we're

trying to help him. But look, one of the

reasons I'm on here today is to try to

set the example for people that do my

job. You're allowed to literally the

first first thing in my title is public.

So, public affairs officers, be public,

talk to the people, talk to the media.

You know, we've got public affairs, very

senior ranking public affairs officers

that you can never find a quote from

them or you can never find a place where

they've ever been public and they keep

continue to rise up the ranks. And

that's not the whole job, but that's

certainly part of the job. I mean,

literally, it says it in our job that

So, one of the reasons I'm here is like

try to set set the example for the whole

field. Get out there, talk to people.

How the hell do you do a public PR job

public affairs? Because they put their

bosses in front. They're like, I can't

answer this question. Um, but you know,

General George can or whatever. And he

keeps us close enough where we can

answer any questions. Alex has been for

the past week and a half, he's been on

the Hill answering questions to Congress

as a representative of General George.

It's been very fun. I've enjoyed every

moment of it.

That would be terrifying. Sorry. I would

not do that. Like that's I got to speak

from somebody else and if I [ __ ]

up it's for them. Yeah. But so so that

that's a good point. That's that's

something that we're always afraid of is

hey what if I'm wrong? Okay. There there

is this very bad um sort of mentality

that you can never be wrong and that's

not true. So one of the things I

actually learned from Dave was if you're

wrong and it's not on purpose, it's

okay. We can fix it. If you don't know

that's the problem. And I think that's

what Dave's hitting at like a lot of the

the public affairs and and I'm a

technologist, right? So my job is to

make sure I know and help. People who

are uninformed are the ones that are not

actually helping. So if they don't go

out there and they say, "Hey, this is

why we're doing it." Then they're afraid

to be in public. They're afraid to get

out front. And then they put their

bosses in a terrible position because

then they go, "Hey, my boss knows." And

we don't know if that's true. Yeah. I go

on about for days.

Yeah. Go on.

Well, the other thing is like we get and

this is like traditional media, but we

get we get plenty of questions right to

the army and everything is email, you

know, everything is some curated

response via email. And uh there's a

couple of great public affairs officers

who, you know, I lean on and as soon as

some as soon as we get any question from

the media, pick up the phone, go meet

that person, explain all context, you

want to talk to me on the record and

people are like, you mean by name? Sure,

I'll I'll talk on the record. It's just

super surprised, but but we should be

proud about the stuff we're doing. I

mean, we're doing especially now, we're

doing some freaking amazing things. And

so, I'm like, yes, on the record, let's

talk about it. Let's, you know, give me

some of your time cuz I'm going to tell

you what the army is doing. And uh I

don't know, we're doing good [ __ ] So, I

think that like Brandon, coming from

your side, was that ever scary for you?

It's like, "Hey, I'm going." You spoke

for yourself that entire campaign. So,

it was always Oh, yeah. When I when I

did the politics thing. Not really. Just

because I I don't know. It's It's a very

similar culture where people are afraid

to not know things. And so, I I I did my

homework. Like, I knew a decent bit

about what I was talking about, like the

major core issues. And I I did something

where most people do their little stump

speech and then they leave. I did like 5

minutes of this is who I am. And this is

what I think. Do you guys have

questions? I did almost entirely Q&A.

That's it. Which I thrive in that

because I I just I feel like it's people

stop paying attention after 5 10 minutes

anyway. And then if they they engage

back and forth and you're you're

actually answering questions and not

ducking them, that's way better. And I

wasn't afraid if somebody would ask me

about some particular agriculture bill

that I wasn't familiar with, I'd be

like, "Hey, I I don't know the answer to

that question yet, but I can find it for

you." Like this is broad broad strokes.

this is what I believe, but I I'm not

familiar with that particular bill.

Would you mind telling me about it?

Yeah, it something they taught us a long

time ago, at least they taught me a long

time ago, was one of the most powerful

things you can do as a leader is say

admit you don't know. Um because too

many pe you get into the [ __ ] cycle.

It's like people will just make up

answers if they think it's what you want

to hear. Yeah. Um so it's been good. I

think it it helps people trust you too.

Agreed. Yeah. where you're just like I'm

I'm not afraid to admit that I don't

know the answer to that. Especially

about like niche or complex topics and

and that's what so Dave talked about

like this big announcement that we did

as the army. There's a lot of complex

topics in there in terms of things we're

going to stop and things that we want to

do and like the technology ecosystem and

how we want to engage and and like how

we actually take care of soldiers. Some

of it like we have a lot of good data

and analysis. There's a reason why we're

doing it. We know this. some of it

there's unintended consequences that are

going to pop up and frankly the

secretary and the chief so secretary

Driscoll and uh General George have said

we're going to fight through this

sometimes we're something's going to pop

up we'll figure it out and that's why

again I've been on the hill for the last

couple weeks I'll be on the hill again

tomorrow um some of it's just explaining

to our board of directors Congress hey

here's what's happening and and why and

oh if these things happen we'll we'll

figure that out y you could over you

could you could overstep uh if you could

wait for until you have every detail,

all the answers or whatever. Uh

Secretary Driskll, General George said,

"Nope, let's go public. Let's go to the

Hill. We're making these changes." And

uh and there's still plenty of things we

need to figure out. So, we're figuring

them out. That'd be the hardest part

with that is in the military side, some

of that stuff is outdated and people

hate change. That's the one thing I do

remember is change is terrifying in the

military and it's like no we need these

very ancient equipment and we'll just

keep it going and spend way too much on

it. But you guys are actually the first

ones like hey let's what if we

didn't soldiers don't hate change

they're like why are we still doing this

dumb [ __ ] Uh so they're ready for the

change and and uh that's what's great

about it you know when we go we were

just at uh JRTC was it last week? It was

last week. last week and uh man the

soldiers out there because we gave them

all the new [ __ ] and they're like this

is freaking awesome. They're figuring

out they're teaching us and how they're

going to use it and what's good, what's

not. So they're ready for change. It's

um you know uh we talked about it a

little bit last time, the defense

industrial complex, the big primes, the

congressional districts, those folks

don't want to change. you know, there's

interests uh that they're trying to

protect and uh it's money. There's lots

and lots of money involved. Yep. Yeah.

And and like one of the good one of the

coolest things I got to see is um I went

down to JRTC

um down in southern Louisiana early just

so I could be embedded with First

Brigade 100 for a little bit of time. Um

I showed you the infantry squad vehicle.

So that that new thing that's a it's a

General Motors defense. It's a Chevy

Colorado that's been militarized with a

Hendrickk chassis. It looks like the

Warthog from Halo. It is awesome. Wait,

what? It infantry squad vehicle. It

really did. Yeah. So, right. So, that

badass, right? It's a troop carrier. You

see, Cody? Yeah. He showed it to me a

minute ago. There's a There's a five

seat variant and a 9 seat variant. Dude,

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now. Right. So, so we

have um unless unless we make it a go

um but like it's supposed to replace the

Humvee and my dad got fielded Humvees in

1988 like as one of the first units. So,

but we're still building and buying them

now and we just want to replace it with

with cooler vehicles that are super

light, super cheap, right? So we pay

about 150 for those. 150k. Um these

probably rip compared to if no. Okay. So

for anyone out there Brandon, have you

rode in like an actual like up armor and hum?

hum?

Yeah. Terrible. Oh dude. Like 0 to 60 in

I think 8 hours. They four guys maybe.

Yeah. Like this. It feels like you're

entering the atmosphere once you hit

highway speed. It is the worst thing in

the world. Strikers are faster. How much

does the the army pay for a Humvey? Like

a shitty Humvey like that? I think it's

300k. Yeah, it's um without without the

up armor. But the coolest thing is I got

to drive with the convoy going from

Alexandria airport to the box on the

interstate and you just see a line of

those and it's just it's just

paratroopers. Like some of them are

under nod, some of them aren't. Like

it's just guys driving a truck cuz it's

a Colorado that's been militarized.

Yeah. and we can pump them out and they

come off of the same production line as

the normal truck and they're easy to

get. They can be repaired anywhere in

the world and we don't have to keep the

40year-old thing just because we kept

buying it. Better vehicle for half the

price. Yeah. Yeah. And and we're not

we're not fighting from the infantry

squad vehicle. We're just mo we're

moving around the battlefield. The whole

the new battlefield calls for mass

mobility, right? So if you you can see

everywhere on the battlefield. If you

can see, you can hit it. And so the

survivable thing about the battlefield

is by staying low low signature and

moving very fast. And that's why we have

these uh that's why we're fielding these

vehicles. So you can you know we're

going to put this across a whole

division. You'll be able to move a

division. You guys are just watching.

Yeah. We're watching the the robotic

ISV. Oh yeah. So So we took uh that's a

cool story. So we went to California. We

went to the valley and we said, "Hey,

what if we took one of these companies

and we gave you an ISV? Could you turn

into a robot in 10 days?" And that's not

a that's 10 days. and they said, "We'll

see what we can do." And once we got it,

we were like, "We don't know what to do

with this thing." Um, so we went, "Hey,

let's just let's give it to a unit

first. Go to the box. Give it to them.

They'll figure it out." First thing they

said, I love them because it was the

exact same idea that I had. They were

like, "We'll put C4 on it." And when you

use it as a breach breaching asset and I

was like,

"I like cool. It's a remote control

bomb." Yeah, me thinks whoever was in

the 101st at the time played a lot of

Battlefield back in the day. Me thinks

you're right. Well, the problem was I

was like, that's the exact same thing I

thought of. Oh my god. Um, don't blow up

my vehicle. Um, and they came up with

some cool things. They did resupplies.

They had it go through Wad's like it was

it was just a cool experiment to watch a

robotic vehicle and us enable that that

Yeah, they fit in the back of a Chinook.

You can sling load them. They just right

in there. That's gangster. Almost like

we thought that through. Yeah. The the

the Ranger Regiment um took the top of

it. They put a 360 gun turret on there

and they can, you know, they put a

gunner up top. No Koopa, so it's super

light. So, it's just a it's just a good

light, cheap vehicle that we can put

anywhere in the world and it can drive

anywhere. In fact, um when the

hurricanes hit North Carolina last year,

a lot of the roads washed out and like

North Carol North Carolina is still home

for me. So, it was it was personal.

Humvees couldn't get there. And the

National Guard has Humvees and the

Guard's doing amazing work all over the

world. Um, but the ISV is good. So, we

deployed the 82nd and the 101st for

hurricane relief and and their ISVS were

the things that could get them there.

Put a put a bunch of paratroopers

together, give them ISVS and give them

Starlink and it's pretty amazing.

They can solve anything. Yeah. That's

what we find people. It was awesome.

Yeah, we had like the Strikers were way

faster than the Humvees. That's the one

thing I true. And you're looking at how

much does a strike weigh? 120,000 lb.

Oh, it's more than that with all the up

armor and all the reactive armor and

everything. Like 200,000 lb. Like fat

[ __ ] But they ran like you could

They had great personalities. Oh, yeah.

Not the ones not the ones in Austin. Yeah.

Yeah.

tort opens up. I love those [ __ ]

things. We got to have fun with them.

It's like Yes. Yes, the no utility

waddling vehicle.

Still talking about the Striker, right?

The Striker had a big following of uh of

contractors, FSRs, what field service

reps. And so we had it was, you know,

it's contract madness. We had all these

contracts built. Yes, we'll buy a bunch

of strikers, but who is it? GD or who's

who makes them? Yes. Yeah. General

Dynamics uh fields a bunch of

contractors with them and so we can't

fix our own freaking vehicles. So So and

let me give you an example. So in

general George tells a story very

eloquently. Um if you wanted to weld

something to your striker, let's say you

wanted to just like a new ruck mount or

like put your AT4s on the side of it.

Non-commissioned officers can think of

anything like let them [ __ ] with the

striker a little bit. You can't like you

legally can't because of the contract

that we had. So if one of your

maintenance guys who is a certified

welder and a mechanic cannot weld to the

side of that because of a contract that

we signed probably right at the start of

GWAD. So is that why like I remember

when they added the Vmount or the Yeah,

the double V. Yeah, the V holes. So one

of the issues when these first hit is

IDs. They were soft under armor. So you

had the bird cage on the side. It would

stop RPGs. That's about and some ID

blast but underneath was just a problem.

Well, cuz if you know anything about

directional explosives, um you basically

just created a bowl to absorb the IED

instead of deflect it. So, you made it

worse essentially. And they had uh

turned into a shape charge. Yeah. Yeah.

Literally. So, we had to actually bring

them on base. Um and then they were down

for I think it was like a week while all

the units or our battalion had the

Vholes put in. So, it's like, "Hey,

look, they take blasts better now from

underneath. You don't have to worry

about that." But that was months into

the deployment and and it was I didn't

realize that that we couldn't touch them

physically. That's why we had to drop

them off. Which is also why when you put

the bird cages on there or um or like

the bag of bolts, you'll hear that term

now for like the drone problem. Most of

the solutions that our soldiers come up

with, given like the boundary condition,

you can't weld on this is they're super

simple. Like here's literally a sandbag

full of bolts so that if something

explodes, the kinetic energy goes out

through the bolts because we can't weld

it. We can't put new stuff on there.

That's why we would wrap it in the the

netting. So no [ __ ] And then we just

put Yeah. And then we put the um

bulletproof glass on the sides for the I

always wonder why we did that [ __ ] That

makes way more sense. I was like, "Well,

we're just soldiers. That makes sense."

You're solving problems given the

condition. We we would just put

bulletproof glass where uh the or the uh

VC would stand up and do patrols cuz

you're just like at that and then you

would just do a camo net wrap around the

top. Yep. It's like it's like popmobile

light like just put the bulletproof.

Yeah. And it wasn't meant to stop

anything. It was just so if you're

getting a sniper, they can't see

hopefully they can't see your silhouette

through the sniper net and you're just

you're still like standing up in the

hell hole. You're never down. You have

four people up at any given time when

you're riding around. So, you're just

like, "Oh, we'll do this and then we'll

look around and that's it." But you do a

sniper net around it and just hope for

the best. All this so Rathon's arrow

stays green.

Yeah. Stunks. St.

Oh, yes. Stunks. Which brings to our

they like God. Yeah. No, I mean, you

know, it wasn't it was like a minute in

before we got into the uh the interest

and congressional districts and stuff. I

mean, look, something we need to talk

about. It's true facts. Yeah, true

facts. So, that's that's the stuff I'm like.

like.

Yep. I tip my hat to all y'all for doing

that [ __ ] still. I don't know how you

guys do that. I'm not addicted. It's

fine. Well, so we um I can quit anytime

I want. We've been trying General George

in in the you know year and a half

almost two years he's been the chief.

We've been trying to cancel stuff trying

to cancel stuff and uh you know

Secretary Driscoll new administration

come on board and he's like we're

canceling it. Just do it. And you know

you've got people we want to we want him

to make informed decisions. We're like

okay but you know so and so is going to

be super mad. um this congressional

district's gonna be affected. You know,

we're gonna have to explain this to

Congress. We're gonna have to do this,

gonna have to do that. And then there's

a tradeoffs. And he's like, "Nope, screw

it. We're doing what's right for the

soldier first time, and we're we're not

going to [ __ ] change. We're not going

to back up." And I'm like, "Uh, okay. I'm

I'm

in. I'm in." So, cuz I mean, in your

career, how long have you ever seen that

before in what, third, 20, 25, 30 years?

No. I mean, no, I was a real soldier

before this, so I uh I haven't been that

been in the Pentagon that long, but uh

I'll just use the example of cancelling

the FAR. What the hell is that stand

for? F Oh man, future attack

reconnaissance aircraft. Yeah. So, we

canled this billion dollar program. My

brain is full of memes and acronyms

about what, eight months ago or

something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And um

instead of taking all that money, it

was, you know, billions of dollars into

the future and and that's a hard thing

to cancel. So, credit credit to our our

last set of bosses. But instead of

taking all that money and investing it

in stuff that we know soldiers need,

drones and you know network, drones,

robots, AI robots, we put it back into

our old ass helicopters because the FAR

was going to be made in a certain

congressional district. So we'll Yes. So

we traded we cancel we cancel far

because that's what's best for the

future of the army. So, we're all

celebrating, but we're taking all that

money and we're putting it into old ass

helicopters. And so, that was a

tradeoff, right, that we do. Um, and uh

this secretary and this chief is the

tradeoff is going to the soldier. Yep.

So, that that was great $7 billion that

we wanted to create to buy all the the

G- Whiz future stuff to make sure that

soldiers had the best stuff and 6 point

I think like six or 6.8 8 of it we had

to go back and reinvest to make sure

everybody was whole. And when you say g- whiz,

whiz,

a very technical term. So things like um

we know that FTV drones are all over

Ukraine. We've seen them in Gaza and in

Israel. Um being able to just buy those

and like stand up production lines

because most of the stuff they're using

overseas are Chinese parts and we can't

buy that. We don't want to subsidize the

CCP. So how do we like buy in America or

build in America? Like standing up

investing in the American industrial

base to do that. buying things like

grown ground robots. So if we like I

don't want a soldier to ever have to go

through a breach first. That's silly.

Like we all know what the fatal funnel

is. We all Hey, let's trade blood for

steel and make sure it's their blood.

And like let's spend the money and buy

the robots to do that. Um let's make

sure that all the combo kit because

we've all had like a 117 golf fail on us

or a 152. Like how about we just buy the

right things and we outfit the rest of

the army. get smaller plates so that

you're more maneuverable so that because

like we all had plate carriers because

the IBA with like the Spalders and the

crotch pad and the like looks super cool

but like

I never put that on. I was like man I

look so dope right now. I'm like I'm

going to get Eli with the mirror

picture. Like I'm [ __ ] so hot right

now. I'm so sweaty. The cockpad I would

always wear. Well yeah. Did you protect

the crown jewels? That was that was it.

We never wore my the shoulders. You

didn't want the biceps. Not important.

This very If this is gone, I can still I

didn't even wear plates. I just wore

that just to look cool. If I die, I die.

But but like the level four armor, it's

very heavy. But like how do we get the

smaller ones? Like how do we invest in

that in the in the the materials and the

compounds and how do we buy that at the

army scale instead of just spending

money on stuff we don't need? Um I'll

give you another one. So, we always talk

about FAR because that was a

multi-billion dollar thing. But there

was this other system called the

shadow developed in the shadow. Yeah,

that sounds super familiar. The UAV.

It's like this long. The big ass

[ __ ] Yeah, we do. We tried to

chuck one. You throw them, right? No.

So, that's the Puma and the Raven. Puma.

So, your thing is Raven. So, Raven was

like this. Puma was like this. Shadow

was like wide as a table and it was it

had a rail and you had to like yeet it

off to get it to go and or it had to

have a runway. Yeah, we dude. We chucked

one and then it ate

like we found the flying lawnmowers cuz

you hear it. And the problem is they

could hear it too. So you would see like

FMV wait the enemy could hear it and

they'd be like you'd see like two dudes

walking all of a sudden they'd be

like they start running. Um so last year

we were going to spend $77 million to

keep those things alive to pay for 53

people. Oh god. And we were like hey

like this seems like lowhanging fruit.

What if we just didn't waste that

taxpayer dollars? What if we just

didn't? What if we bought quadcopters

for a couple units? Mhm. And everybody

lost their minds. $500. Like how much is

a [ __ ] drone? Okay. So, American made

drone. So, if we buy one Chinese drone,

super cheap. Yeah. So, like one of ours

very hardened like GPS did not like you

can do these things will fly anywhere.

They're almost quiet. So, like you could

fly it over there and you couldn't hear

it here. Like it's actually super quiet.

The ones that we buy, they're 30 to

50,000. Yeah. But they're they're EW

hard, so you can't you can't jam them,

like all the lessons we learned from

from Russia. Yeah. Um but even even if

that's still 10 times less than the

other stuff that we're buying, and it's

going to come down with higher higher

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still that price 10 times less than the

other stuff that we're buying and it's

going to come down with higher higher

production. So yeah, of course. Anyway,

that's [ __ ] wild. And again, how much

were the originals? So we were going to

buy we were just going to spend hundreds

of millions of We were going to spend

$77 million for 53 maintainers. Yeah.

Like around the world. And and speaking

of maintainers, what was the operational

readiness rate, Alex? Um the highest it

had ever been was 53%. So only 53% of

those drones were capable of flying at

any one time because the maintenance

sucked on them. Anyway, the flying

efficient dude.

That's as quiet as they are. Yep. And

you can see like you can see where he

launched it from. Oh, these are

literally like DJI drones. Hey. Hey.

They're not DJI. They're whatever they

are. Yeah. Well, not only do we want to

not subsidize the CCP, but there are

very real scenarios where potentially

having Chinese supply chains are a bad

[ __ ] idea. Go figure. Maybe like not

our enemy could be controlling the

supply chain for all the stuff that we

would use against not our enemy. Yeah,

especially if they Yeah, never mind.

Yeah, we're forgot terrifying with those

things. That's the one thing I will say

like watching. We watch front like the

front line combat footage. That is the

most terrifying thing that has been I

don't think anyone's seen it going that

way. Yeah. 70 70% of casualties right

now in Ukraine Russia are from drones.

Yeah. It's scary. You'll see the guys

just sit there and they'll see the

drone. They'll just accept it. It's like

Yeah. And they're shooting down half of

the drones they're shooting down are

their own drones because there's, you

know, we don't have mechanisms right now

to to do airspace management and figure

out like if you're if you're an

instrument and there's a drone flying

over, are you risking it? Pretty pretty

sure I'm going to uh shoot it. Yeah.

Yeah. Unless you know specifically it's

your drone. And so I didn't even think

of that. There's not like Blue Force

trackers being like, "Hey, this is when

you're in your battle space. You know

exactly where it is." But instead of

developing like these big standalone

systems where you need a truck and like

a big server and a satellite to figure

all that out, we're building apps to to

be able to do that. You said apps. Apps.

Yeah. Everything is app. Everything.

This kind of sounds, you know, there's

iPhone. You don't have 11 iPhones, do

you? To do 11 different things. So in

the army, we have we have 11 iPhones,

but they're not just iPhones. their

trucks by themselves with uh with

servers and groups of soldiers that have

to run things. Our army, what we're

invested in now is everything is

application based. Application based and

sits on one network so that soldiers

aren't lugging around a whole bunch of

[ __ ] and we don't have extra soldiers

doing all this extra stuff.

Sorry, we had a separate app

conversation. No, we were just showing

cool stuff. You're showing me the battle

space with the

trying to manage all of the the drones

and the airspace. You're on patrol and

you're like, "What is that mine?" I

I'm over stimulated.

Get the three gun shotgun out. Yeah. Oh,

that's been one of my favorite things is

the return of the combat shotgun. Number

one number one drone killer. Yeah. Cuz

there was a there was a while where

there was a legitimate conversation

where it's like aside from breaching,

does the shotgun still have a role? I

remember that conversation. And then

here comes DJI or well

well DJI. Yeah. We're shooting a shotgun

at is probably DJI. Are they do are they

still using the OG

for whatever the army's new shotgun or

is it going towards like that three gun

style cuz I figure it'd be like a three

gun style shotgun. So it's just speed

ready high tube capacity 12 roundsa and

and long barrel cuz yeah like you can't

have a short barrel and maintain any

level of accuracy. And they're using

birdshot, right? And they're light as

[ __ ] Really? Birdshot?

Interesting. I I heard I heard a

conversation and I wasn't sure if it was

true or not. They said they were using

buckshot cuz uh birdshot wasn't doing

enough damage to the drones, but I'm not

sure. So, it depends on how close you

are. Um and this just gets into like

weird mechanics. Um if you think about

like how cheap some of the drones are,

if you can just knock off one of the

rotors, you you it'll fly off and just

crash out. Um, if it's super close and

you can actually hit it with buckshot

while they're maneuvering, you just kill

it there. Hit it right main body. But

the bird shot gives you a high

probability of hitting one of the

rotors. Interesting. No

[ __ ] No tech. I love it. Right. Well, I

mean, one of our battlefield. Yeah. One

of our guys and he's super smart. Um, E5

type just like, hey, how I would counter

drones is, you know, if you look at a

quadcopter, you got four very powerful

electromagnets on there. That's the

rotors. Like just throw ferris sand at

it. like just like t-shirt tube sand and

it'll suck it up into the motor and just

chew up the motor.

That's very That's smart, right?

Soldiers come up with good [ __ ] all the

time and bad [ __ ]

What is actually for you? What is some

of the dumb privacy? You had to deal

with some dumbass soldiers, dog.

Uh, probably not ripe for uh for a

public. Damn it. Yeah, I want to know

like Yeah, there's this one guy. Yeah,

public affairs talking [ __ ] about his

uh You got to love him though, right?

All of them so so much. It's all very

good. Yeah, there's uh Well, you guys

had Vern Daly on uh when we were in the

Pentagon, start major. He was He was my

first armor when I was company

commander. Oh, no [ __ ] man. We had some

good times. We had some good times.

Yeah, he was a great guy, dude. All

those guys were fantastic. It was still

the Who's the individual with that was

like stacked? He's like scuba combat or

Halo Mullen X probably. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, that was the one. Captain

America. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's

I was like that was my first reaction

seeing the stack. I was like Jesus

Christ. There's a bit where me and Cody

I've just like

instantly. He's what I like he's also

just he's very well spoken. So he was

one of the guys that we went to the hill

as we rolled out this army

transformation thing. So what one thing

I appreciate about the team that we have

between Mike Wymer, the hard major of

the army, the chief, the secretary is

like the team is just so high

performing. like you have a bunch of

smart people who have done a lot of

really cool stuff. Um, and he's one of

them. Those guys are like the entire

chain of command seems extremely stacked

for are very overqualified which is

fantastic. I was not expecting that like

period period. It was an awesome change.

I was like okay these dudes and even uh

Roma speaks so highly of General Jorge.

That's what he calls him.

He's like, "What's Jorge doing?"

What's Randy doing? Would love to know

the context behind that. I think Dave

and I can do that once.

Well, there was he just had a uh a

grandkid and uh so there was about 24

hours where I was calling GG. Hey, GG.

And he was like, "No."

Okay, that one's done. Okay. Yeah. But

Roma speaks so highly of him as a

leader. He's like, "That dude is one of

the first dudes or one of the only dudes

that had his back." Even when they got

into that um I think when he got into

that battle space, he was one of the few

leadership that was like, "Hey, this is

a stupid [ __ ] base." Yep. Yeah. At

Katon. Yep. You know what Katon? It's in

the bowl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Read it.

General George was like, "This is what?

Why? Why?" And they still like, "No, it

was strategic until it wasn't

strategic." That's right. And you know,

at the time a bunch of he was Colonel

George. Yep. And there was a bunch of

generals that were like, "What are you

talking about, Colonel? You can't you

can't move those those operating bases

or outposts." And uh he was like, "Just

did." Lol. Yeah. Uh so

literally the deal with it sunglasses.

Yeah. So um but that's what he's doing

now. You know, you can't you can't cut

that program.

Just did. That's where you're wrong

about this. It was funny because you

talk about your team and like the the

team that you've got like the guys that

are just, you know, very well spoken,

very articulate, and, you know, good

people to have with you

shoulder-to-shoulder in the the capital.

Uh we saw a couple pictures of you guys

in the capital having to go before

Congress, and you guys look like you

I recognize the look. How about that? Um

so the I have had to do um and the and

the other person that's not here is is

Colonel Molly Salsbury. So she's my

battle buddy on the hill. Um and all of

us have known each other for a long time

from from some other unit. Intel

officer, special operations background.

We grew up together doing all this

stuff. So but but we had to go do the

House Armed Services Committee. I'll be

with the Senate Armed Services Committee

tomorrow. um the House um oversight for

for the hack and the sack. So, armed

um it was great. It was great. Um so,

the members are have actually all been

like super supportive. The members of

Congress, the elected members of

Congress have all said, "Okay, like I

understand why you're doing it. You

clearly have a lot of passion here.

You've clearly made some decisions. It's

clearly the right thing for the army."

like right thing for the army, right

thing for the country. Okay. What we've

been doing is going and briefing the

staff. So the professional staff members

who help write laws, right? So it's like

anything, they're the ones that are

putting pen to paper and then taking it

to their bosses. And then the military

legislative assistants who are sort of

like supposed to be their their

connective tissue to the

military. They're the ones that that

think that they're going to grill us and

like, hey, what are you doing and why

and have you thought about this?

And those engagements, some of them have

been great because we've been priming

the pump on some of these things for a

while. Some of them have been straight

up knife fights on like you can't do

that. And we're going, hey, we're doing

the right thing for soldiers. Like you

cannot tell us to keep buying these

things just cuz we're going to tell you

no, it's not the right thing. We're

going to try a whole bunch of other

things. It's Ben Franklin. Like I know

10,000 ways that are wrong. I haven't

found the right thing yet, but all of

these things are wrong. You have to give

us the freedom to do the right thing for

soldiers. So that's really been it's

been a weird dichotomy of hey the

members are all like go forth and do the

right thing. The white house has said go

forth and do the right thing. The sect

has said you will do the right thing and

our leadership has said here's what the

right thing looks like. Um and just and

then working through the people's

representatives has been has been a fun

challenge. I'm really glad you brought

that up because I think most most

Americans would be shocked to know how

much of the country is run by unelected

legislative aids. Mhm. It's terrifying.

What do you mean by that? It means so

you have a member of Congress, okay, he

goes forward, he does the votes,

whatnot, but the actual bills being

written, different committee stuff, all

that's done by like 8 to 10 people in

his office that are there to to read

through the bills, to write the bills,

whatever, they have more power than you

would ever [ __ ] think. That's why it

was so important. I was warned like,

hey, if I if I got the job, like, you

need to pick these people [ __ ]

carefully because they run your office.

Mhm. Yeah. And that's not something I

think most people know. And they know

the system. They know how to do it. You

know, it's it's very complicated

bureaucracy. And um and you need people

who know how to get things done within

the bureaucracy to to do it. And so, you

know, you can't I was reminded by

General George actually, you just can't

burn it all down. You have to make the

bureaucracy work. You have to force it

to work. I know. It was my plan, too.

But yeah. Um, so I'm going home. At face

value, at face value, people see what

we're doing and they're like, "Of

course." Yeah. Modern battlefield,

Ukraine, Israel, we're seeing it all

over the world. Of course, modernize the

the army. Transform the army. Stop doing

old dumb [ __ ] Um, so it's just a

challenge. It been interesting to

educate people. The

Army, the oldest service, 250 years this

year. Take a minute. We have the

smallest budget of any military

department. So there's three military

departments, Air Force, Navy, Army. We

have the smallest budget. So we we

represent 21% of the defense budget.

That's it. What would you attribute that

to? Um I think there's more expensive

projects like aircraft platforms. Yeah.

So um Okay. So, just to get technical on

how we do things, like the Navy and the

Air Force buy platforms and then they

man platforms. They buy boats and they

put people on boats ships. The Army N

touch. Yeah, don't touch our

boats. I'll stand up for the Navy. Don't

touch our boats. Um, you flip it. The

Army builds formations and then we equip

formations. We buy stuff for our our

troopers. Um, and therefore the way that

we argue for our budget is just we have

the smallest one. We don't have huge

capital assets like a aircraft carrier,

like a zoom wall, like a B-21, like the

F-47. Um, so the way that we do it is is

just differently. The second part of

that is it's really hard to describe the

scale of the army without sounding like

there's too much army. So the the Navy

says, "Hey, we have 300 some odd holes."

Like they count it in terms of ships. Um

the Air Force says, "We have X number of

tails." The army says we have a million

people. That sounds like a lot. Well,

that's the entire guard. That's the

reserve. That's the active component.

That's that's literally everyone. Well,

so during GWAT, we started saying, well,

we have 50ome brigades. That still

sounds like a lot, especially when it's,

you know, 6,000 pissed-off soldiers who

just want to go do, you know, wreck

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then we focus so much on stuff that we

sometimes just get wed to the stuff. So

we get wed to Humvees. We get wed to the

M4, which I love. Like M4 is great. Um,

and it's just it's a different battle

when we go to the hill and say, "Hey, we

want to really change." Yeah. But to be

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asking for any more money. We've got our

budget. And General George and and

Secretary have been like, "We don't want

more money, guys. We'll keep the money

we have. We just want to be able to

spend it more in an efficient and

responsible way." Which which and what

they mean by that is Wait, do you So,

you get restricted on how you can spend

that. Yeah. So, Oh, so the armies, let

me tell you, we get restricted. Yeah.

Budget lines. Yeah. back in wait they

give you the money and they're like no

they give you the money and then across

I think 1,900 budget lines it used to be

six uh we get told exactly how to spend

every dollar so if you're a budget nerd

the army's budget this year was about

$185 billion which sounds like a lot cuz

it is it is a lot of damn money 55% of

that immediately locked it's mil pay so

we want to make sure we pay our soldiers

make sure we pay our civilians um

another 25% % of that is immutable. It's

congressional direction. You will spend

this money in this direction. The rest

of it is what is our spending money.

It's our discretionary fund. So that's

goes into like the programs like Shadow

programs like Humi, programs like

Nikken, Squad Weapon. Um but that was

planned 5 years ago, but it was planned

5 years ago because we had to guess at

what we wanted to spend in this year.

And then so the the budget line items,

it's a technical term. So think about if

you're at your home. I'm sure you

planned all this 5 years ago.

sto so far ahead. We were like in 3

years ago it's like we got the Pentagon

in 2024.

Yeah. And if you need a new camera,

obviously you'll just say I'll buy one

in 5 years. Yeah. And and you'll but

you'll you'll plan to buy the thing that

exists right now in 5 years. That

camera. Yeah. That one. I'll budget

that. Every good company is uh you know

revered on its ability to maneuver 5

years at a time. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

Flat and fast.

Um, but it's [ __ ] wild. It is. 20% of

the budgets are just going to be like,

"Muh, [ __ ] guess, dude."

Yeah. But it's surprising how much the

American people don't know. Like, they

think that we waste a lot of money, and we

do, but it's it's it's because like we

don't have a lot of that part.

You're like,

but but think about you hear the stories

like the the Air Force just got caught

up in this weird thing about the the the

the soap dispensers on the C7s. Yeah.

And they were just like we were paying

1,700% markup on the soap dispensers.

Well, that's what So this is a real

thing. Are they good? Um No. So the same

ones that you find in like the [ __ ]

Bathroom. It's the same soap dispenser,

but because of the way that we are told

to spend our money, someone had to plan

that and all of the engineering overhead

to design, oh, I'm hope I can screw

these two things into the C17, that gets

added to the cost. So, by the time that

we have to buy it, this might be three

bucks. If I go to the gas station, it's

going to be $300 because of all the

overhead that we add. When we talk

about, hey, I want to spend my money

better. It's I literally go, hey, I can

buy that on the consumer market. It's

probably okay to use it a couple times.

I know that I'm taking risk. I just want

to spend the same dollars that I can out

of uniform that our soldiers can in

uniform. And when you hear about the

$700 hammer or the $500 toilet seat

covered, like all these like terrible

military procurement stories from the '

50s, '60s,7s, there's a reason. It's not

a good reason, but it exists. And that's

what we're trying to burn through and

break down. That's where you get that

bag of bolts. Uh, it's like one of those

running soldier soldiers find a It's

like Jurassic Park. Like soldiers find a

way because of all the dumb conditions

that have been put put like on us

instead of just going, "Hm, that seems

like common sense. Let's just [ __ ] do

that." But even the justification where

you're like, "Well, consumer market is,

you know, we're taking a risk. It's

probably, you know, it'll probably be

okay." It's like, well, in some

scenarios, it's probably better. And

even if it's not better, maybe it's just

on par, still 2,000% more efficient.

Yeah. And it's available right now, not

5 years from now. Yeah. Yeah. There's

kind of three categories, right? We just

we were uh emailing about this this

morning. There's you can buy it right

now and it's it's close enough good

enough for for military use. You can buy

it and then modify it just a bit so that

we can use it uh in a military way.

That's like the like the ISV like Chevy

Colorado adapted for military use. Yep.

Or there's long lead time like uh like

our next generation tank. I haven't seen

any. I don't know. I haven't been to all

the places in Austin, but or in San

Antonio. Not Austin.

Not would recommend avoiding that.

But anyway, I haven't seen any tanks uh

for sale. So, we have to develop that

out. And that's going to take some time,

you know, to develop the next generation

tank. But drones, there's a lot of them

around. We can use some right away or

just modify them a bit to use them. So

anyway, same with like the laser weapons

and microwave weapons, which we

definitely won't use on people. That's a

Geneva Convention thing. Convention.

Yeah. Yeah. Microwave weapons.

Yeah. Yeah. So there's there's a brain.

Yeah. I don't know about this [ __ ] Like

you haven't like opened your microwave

and just turned it on. No. Alex did the

quick classification check. He said they

were microwave weapons and Alex

those would be gangster." They

originally rolled them out for I think

crowd control, right? Uh no. So the we

didn't That was definitely like a

homeland security thing like of

There we go. It's like eyeballs explode.

Oh, too high. Popcorn. That one's done.

Um, no. These are for like counter

drone. So, so think about um um counter

drone. Take two of your safes, like put

one next to each other and like stand it

up so that you can just blasted and fry

the electronics if they're coming in.

And like the scary thing for me, and I

won't give away any TTPs cuz that's

terrifying is like you're in a base in

Iraq or Afghan, not Afghanistan, Syria

or anywhere else and there's a bunch

coming, you just flip it on and all the

electronics fry and they just fall out

of the sky. Like that's that's nirvana.

HPM high powered microwave. Power

microwave just takes a lot of power. You

know, some private is going to be

cooking ramen noodles on that pig. Be

It's like, well, it's like if my dad

used to tell me the story, he's like,

"Hey, private, crack your mask." You'd

be like, "Hey, private, hold up the

wrong if it starts boiling, it's fine."

Yeah, I wouldn't trust anyone. You walk

in front of it, you're like, private is

the most dangerous thing in the world.

in front of it. It's like, "Oh, why does

that hurt?" "Oh, I guess it doesn't hurt anymore."

[ __ ] that. When did you go to basics

then? Um, wow. How old is aging me?

Yeah. Uh, 1997.

I mean, that ain't bad. I was thinking

12. Thank you. Two. Yeah.

Really? Yeah. Oh my god. Congressman,

maybe. Yeah. I think it was like one and

a half. You're already an admiral kind

colonel prestige. Wait,

Wait,

it's like it's kind of like having your

grandma on the podcast. How's that?

Having me on the podcast. You were too

when I was old. It's a weird way. I was

going to say that's a lot of That's a

weird way to identify. Hold his arm down.

down.

Yeah. Yeah. I was wondering where you

were going with that. I'm like, ah.

We're like, dude, you set this joke up.

How old are you, Cody? I'm 37. Yeah.

Pretty good. Yeah. When you were in the

militantry first or what was your first

Oh, dude. You had I was an infantryman

growing up. Yeah. How was basic? Well, I

was an infantry officer, so you know,

coming out of college. Yeah. So, we had

a great time. Yeah. Actually, I just

hung out with my buddy. Uh, so I went to

like college camp with him. Advance

camp. Then band camp. Band camp. Band

camp. Yes. Then then officer basic, then

ranger school, and then first duty

station. I just hung out with him last

weekend. Uh, drunk a bunch of beers

together. But, um, yeah, that's we had

some good times, man. Do Ranger School

is Have Have you guys heard any Ranger

School stories from any of the guests

yet? Not from the guests. No. You get

Did you do Warner Recycle or Summer

Cycle? Oh, I did some. Yes, I dabbled in

a couple different phases of Ranger

School. Yeah. Oh, you did a repeat

cycle? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, this is

what I like to

say. So, I eventually went straight through.

through.

This is the PR skills coming right now.

I didn't learn this in ranger school,

but um I got extra schooling.

I'm more trained when I finally

restarted then I went straight through.

So what's does that count? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So winter school you had two. So

do you just did the one M? Like they

probably have no Do you guys have a

baseline of Ranger School? I read it

from Matt's book. uh his stories from

that, but that's about it. Yeah. I

graduated in December, so it was I was a

winter ranger. Yeah. Sleepy. You get no

sleep. Tell people like explain cuz I

think you got a lot of people. You're

eating what? Two M. Do you get the two

MREs or still one? So, we got we got to

because um do you Well, this is this

goes back ways in

1995 or something like that. There were

a couple guys that died in Florida

phase. Oh no, I didn't know about that.

Yeah, they got hypothermia basically.

You know, you combine uh being totally physically uh beat down with lower

physically uh beat down with lower temperatures and water and then uh yeah,

temperatures and water and then uh yeah, we lost a couple of guys and so they

we lost a couple of guys and so they swamp phase in the winter. Swamp phase.

swamp phase in the winter. Swamp phase. Yeah, cuz you're wet all the time. Um so

Yeah, cuz you're wet all the time. Um so they changed it. Anyway, we got two MREs

they changed it. Anyway, we got two MREs I think in in

I think in in uh yeah, in in Florida in the mountains.

uh yeah, in in Florida in the mountains. Um, but the choice always was do you

Um, but the choice always was do you sleep or eat? And I remember, you know,

sleep or eat? And I remember, you know, waking up after 40 minutes with my open

waking up after 40 minutes with my open M in my lap and saying,

M in my lap and saying, damn, I really would have liked to eat

damn, I really would have liked to eat just but instead I fell asleep. So, um,

just but instead I fell asleep. So, um, cuz you guys are averaging on like uh 2

cuz you guys are averaging on like uh 2 hours. Yeah, it depended uh when we were

hours. Yeah, it depended uh when we were out in a field. Yeah, because it was

out in a field. Yeah, because it was it's a cycle of, you know, field

it's a cycle of, you know, field problems, kind of learning stuff in the

problems, kind of learning stuff in the classroom. It is actually a school. It's

classroom. It is actually a school. It's not just a complete suckfest. Um, and so

not just a complete suckfest. Um, and so yeah, we were probably 2 hours of sleep

yeah, we were probably 2 hours of sleep sometimes. Well, oftent times, uh, quite

sometimes. Well, oftent times, uh, quite a bit less. And, uh, this is for 60

a bit less. And, uh, this is for 60 days. Yeah. 62 days or something. You

days. Yeah. 62 days or something. You lose a bunch of weight. You, um, you

lose a bunch of weight. You, um, you know, you're under not only physical

know, you're under not only physical stress, but mental stress. And it's a

stress, but mental stress. And it's a leadership school, so you're

leadership school, so you're consistently put into leadership roles

consistently put into leadership roles where you're like, uh, you know, all

where you're like, uh, you know, all these people that are sucking as bad as

these people that are sucking as bad as you, now you're in charge of them, man,

you, now you're in charge of them, man, you have to go really far that way. And

you have to go really far that way. And so, uh, you got to figure out a way to

so, uh, you got to figure out a way to uh, you know, use the process and and

uh, you know, use the process and and lead these lead these people to uh, to

lead these lead these people to uh, to success. And uh, yeah, it was a good

success. And uh, yeah, it was a good challenge just like we do in the

challenge just like we do in the Pentagon. No, but uh, you're trying. I

Pentagon. No, but uh, you're trying. I love how positive you're trying. I've

love how positive you're trying. I've never heard someone like, well, you

never heard someone like, well, you know, scale. I think it was this I don't

know, scale. I think it was this I don't want to put words in his mouth, but if I

want to put words in his mouth, but if I recall correctly, I think it was swamp

recall correctly, I think it was swamp phase. Matt said that he had a [ __ ]

phase. Matt said that he had a [ __ ] flesheing bacteria all over his back or

flesheing bacteria all over his back or something like that that he had to hide

something like that that he had to hide cuz he didn't want to be recycled. Well,

cuz he didn't want to be recycled. Well, yeah, you're up against that. You know,

yeah, you're up against that. You know, you got a little limp or you got you

you got a little limp or you got you got, you know, a couple problems and you

got, you know, a couple problems and you don't want the medics to know about it

don't want the medics to know about it because they're like that could get

because they're like that could get worse. You're you're out. Um Rocco did

worse. You're you're out. Um Rocco did um he got knocked off during a raft and

um he got knocked off during a raft and dislocated his arm and just faked his

dislocated his arm and just faked his arm being in place for the remainder

arm being in place for the remainder like week I think. Yeah. And he just

like week I think. Yeah. And he just like held it there. Yep. And he made it

like held it there. Yep. And he made it all the way through until afterwards and

all the way through until afterwards and they went to salute and he was like oh

they went to salute and he was like oh god and they're like wait soldier what

god and they're like wait soldier what I'd like to say that tab is worth it

I'd like to say that tab is worth it that like long-term damage to your

that like long-term damage to your shoulder. Uh, but I you know why I speak

shoulder. Uh, but I you know why I speak about it positively? Cuz like let's be

about it positively? Cuz like let's be honest, like those were good times when

honest, like those were good times when you you know pushing yourself to the

you you know pushing yourself to the physical limit and you're sucking and

physical limit and you're sucking and you're out there with your your buddies

you're out there with your your buddies and uh public affairs. Yeah. No, I I I I

and uh public affairs. Yeah. No, I I I I actually, you know, would not do that

actually, you know, would not do that right now. Yeah. Even for a YouTube

right now. Yeah. Even for a YouTube video, you could send us Would you would

video, you could send us Would you would you not? But how many days would we do

you not? But how many days would we do that for? Like for content right now and

that for? Like for content right now and our positions in life? Three days. I do

our positions in life? Three days. I do it as long as you guys did it. Nice.

it as long as you guys did it. Nice. Yeah. Cool.

Yeah. Cool. Which I know caps out at about 40 48

Which I know caps out at about 40 48 hours.

hours. Cra's like I'm done. It sounds like you

Cra's like I'm done. It sounds like you guys are throwing down a gauntlet right

guys are throwing down a gauntlet right now. We can just had a great idea. Work

now. We can just had a great idea. Work with Ranger School. We get you guys in

with Ranger School. We get you guys in do like a Ranger school thing.

do like a Ranger school thing. Unsubscribe. Goes to Ranger School. 62

Unsubscribe. Goes to Ranger School. 62 days. 62 days.

days. 62 days. freaking thing. That'd be so good, dude.

freaking thing. That'd be so good, dude. Brandon gets an actual tab without being

Brandon gets an actual tab without being in the military. So dope, dude.

in the military. So dope, dude. You survive that work. We drop out.

You survive that work. We drop out. Brandon makes it through. Just a hard

Brandon makes it through. Just a hard ass. I think I found my new career.

ass. I think I found my new career. There you go. Here's an alternative. Uh

There you go. Here's an alternative. Uh Army birthday. We have uh alternative

Army birthday. We have uh alternative enlistment papers. Best squad

enlistment papers. Best squad competition. We should talk about the

competition. We should talk about the EIC guys. uh best squad competition on

EIC guys. uh best squad competition on um Army birthday. So the morning of July

um Army birthday. So the morning of July 14th uh June 14th or excuse me, June

14th uh June 14th or excuse me, June 14th. We got Wow. Yeah. Everybody's

14th. We got Wow. Yeah. Everybody's going to show up on July.

going to show up on July. Um we've got a best squad competition

Um we've got a best squad competition and uh we're putting together teams from

and uh we're putting together teams from you

you know it's can't tell you it's cross like

know it's can't tell you it's cross like coloring and the no it's crossfity.

coloring and the no it's crossfity. Yeah, I mean it's climbing ropes. It's

Yeah, I mean it's climbing ropes. It's it's uh you know some team it's it's

it's uh you know some team it's it's physical competition obviously. Hey

physical competition obviously. Hey Brandon, you ever wake up in your bed

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Sleep better, stay cooler. We got marksmanship. Yeah, just not on the

marksmanship. Yeah, just not on the national lawn. Not it's on the national

national lawn. Not it's on the national lawn. So, it's uh they get a little

lawn. So, it's uh they get a little weird about them for some reason. Yeah,

weird about them for some reason. Yeah, it's tensions of that overhead ball

it's tensions of that overhead ball throw. Not anymore. Not since January.

throw. Not anymore. Not since January. No, just kidding.

No, just kidding. Uh so, anyway, you're invited put

Uh so, anyway, you're invited put together a team. How big does the team

together a team. How big does the team have to be? I think it's five. Anyway,

have to be? I think it's five. Anyway, best I think it's I think that was an

best I think it's I think that was an even number. Let's bring uh unsubscribe

even number. Let's bring uh unsubscribe and then Matt Frasier. I was just going

and then Matt Frasier. I was just going to say let him get all the points.

to say let him get all the points. That's perfect. Yeah, Matt, you're

That's perfect. Yeah, Matt, you're coming. Well, they're they're team

coming. Well, they're they're team events. All right, Cody. Yeah,

we just pay five of the top world crossfires.

crossfires. You're now face mask t-shirt latex

You're now face mask t-shirt latex masks. You're like, you can't

anything cuz Matt won how many CrossFit world champions in a row? Championships.

world champions in a row? Championships. Five of them. Yeah. And he would get

Five of them. Yeah. And he would get dude that human. Well, you know, the

dude that human. Well, you know, the X-Men were a team and I don't think

X-Men were a team and I don't think Professor Xavier was doing any wall

Professor Xavier was doing any wall climbs.

Well, you can't look at him and be like, "Hey, walk it off, Charles."

I don't think he was doing the 10K version. Well, I mean, he's got the

version. Well, I mean, he's got the little chair. It just takes a while.

little chair. It just takes a while. Like could he move things with his mind

Like could he move things with his mind or just read minds and make people do

or just read minds and make people do things? He could. Why didn't he like

things? He could. Why didn't he like move his little legs?

move his little legs? That's where his power came. Good

That's where his power came. Good though. Kind of drag. He seems sees a

though. Kind of drag. He seems sees a good looking woman. He's like,

good looking woman. He's like, he's just the the tops of his feet are

he's just the the tops of his feet are always bloody.

handicap jokes. No, it's mutant jokes.

Magneto haters. I'm the guy that they're not handicapped. They're [ __ ]

not handicapped. They're [ __ ] mutants.

And the '90s kid comes out. Do you guys regret coming on yet? Not yet. Let's

regret coming on yet? Not yet. Let's keep going. All right, let's go deeper.

Oh, yeah. We have the [ __ ] the Army 250th coming up. We're all doing We

250th coming up. We're all doing We We're still figuring out what we're

We're still figuring out what we're doing there. Yeah, we have a stage or

doing there. Yeah, we have a stage or main stage. Are you asking or telling?

main stage. Are you asking or telling? I'm asking and telling cuz I got told

I'm asking and telling cuz I got told one thing and I'm just confirming. Yes.

one thing and I'm just confirming. Yes. Stage. Okay. Yeah. What would you like

Stage. Okay. Yeah. What would you like us to do on that stage? Um just do just

us to do on that stage? Um just do just do What are we doing? An episode. Do an

do What are we doing? An episode. Do an episode out there? Live episode. We can

episode out there? Live episode. We can do that. Yeah. I know they wanted plot

do that. Yeah. I know they wanted plot twist Ranger School. Oh no. I can do an

twist Ranger School. Oh no. I can do an hour Ranger School.

hour Ranger School. I'm fine with that. We get tabbed after

I'm fine with that. We get tabbed after an hour. Yeah. No one will judge us.

an hour. Yeah. No one will judge us. You're You're a battalion guy though,

You're You're a battalion guy though, right? No. Uh 2 ID. 2 ID. Nice. Yeah.

right? No. Uh 2 ID. 2 ID. Nice. Yeah. Korea. Korea. No. [ __ ] Fort Lewis.

Korea. Korea. No. [ __ ] Fort Lewis. Brandon just left. Yeah. They Do you

Brandon just left. Yeah. They Do you want a drink?

want a drink? You can get up. Yeah. You're in uniform.

You can get up. Yeah. You're in uniform. Yes. You asked me to wear this, by the

Yes. You asked me to wear this, by the way. I know. I was like, you were like,

way. I know. I was like, you were like, "Do I wear this or this?" I was like,

"Do I wear this or this?" I was like, "The class B's." I I I thought they were

"The class B's." I I I thought they were the green still. I was very off on that

the green still. I was very off on that one. This is um this is our pinks and

one. This is um this is our pinks and greens throwback. Pinks and greens.

greens throwback. Pinks and greens. Yeah. Old World War II. They called them

Yeah. Old World War II. They called them pinks and greens for whatever reason. I

pinks and greens for whatever reason. I don't know. Alex probably knows what

don't know. Alex probably knows what reason. Um cuz he's the chief technology

reason. Um cuz he's the chief technology officer, so I assume he knows those

officer, so I assume he knows those ones. Yeah. And uh this is our throwback

ones. Yeah. And uh this is our throwback uniform. Yeah. No [ __ ] Completely

uniform. Yeah. No [ __ ] Completely adopted. When did you guys roll those

adopted. When did you guys roll those out?

out? Uh four or five years ago. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh four or five years ago. Yeah. Yeah. No [ __ ] Yeah.

No [ __ ] Yeah. I'm

I'm so off of all of this [ __ ]

so off of all of this [ __ ] anymore. No, we got with Army. We're

anymore. No, we got with Army. We're going to do a whatever you guys had

going to do a whatever you guys had scheduled and then a live show. I think

scheduled and then a live show. I think they were saying YouTube guy the

they were saying YouTube guy the YouTubers were talking about uh Hexath

YouTubers were talking about uh Hexath being on. Oh yeah, great. Yep. And I was

being on. Oh yeah, great. Yep. And I was like, "Yeah, all all the guys were like,

like, "Yeah, all all the guys were like, "Yeah, that'd be a good episode. That

"Yeah, that'd be a good episode. That would do decent." Yeah. Decent. Yeah,

would do decent." Yeah. Decent. Yeah, it'd be okay. But then getting you guys

it'd be okay. But then getting you guys to rotate up and then however else we

to rotate up and then however else we treat the 250th, we're just going to

treat the 250th, we're just going to have a blast cuz it's going to be a

have a blast cuz it's going to be a blast. You guys are giving us a lot of

blast. You guys are giving us a lot of free rain. So, we can ask them too what

free rain. So, we can ask them too what they want to see. This is the way to do

they want to see. This is the way to do it. Free reign. We trust you guys. We'll

it. Free reign. We trust you guys. We'll see how long that last. Not Brandon, but

see how long that last. Not Brandon, but everybody else. And uh No, I mean, so

everybody else. And uh No, I mean, so the army's turning 250 years old. That's

the army's turning 250 years old. That's doesn't happen every day. And uh it's

doesn't happen every day. And uh it's pretty cool. We're going to have a

pretty cool. We're going to have a massive parade downtown DC. Mhm. Uh

massive parade downtown DC. Mhm. Uh that's a whole that's a whole thing

that's a whole that's a whole thing going on right now in the media.

going on right now in the media. Um it's What are they saying? Uh there's

Um it's What are they saying? Uh there's unfortunately uh because we live in such

unfortunately uh because we live in such a politically polarized world right now,

a politically polarized world right now, they're making it all about the

they're making it all about the president. And um we're really really

president. And um we're really really trying to make it all about the army cuz

trying to make it all about the army cuz it's the army's 250th birthday. And uh

it's the army's 250th birthday. And uh and the president will certainly be

and the president will certainly be there. He's going to celebrate with us.

there. He's going to celebrate with us. Uh we're doing uh a big ass parade. I'm

Uh we're doing uh a big ass parade. I'm telling you, like a massive parade in

telling you, like a massive parade in downtown DC uh which the president will

downtown DC uh which the president will reside over and um it's going to be

reside over and um it's going to be super cool. Yeah. Yeah. Excited about

super cool. Yeah. Yeah. Excited about it. What do uh what else can we do like

it. What do uh what else can we do like for the 250th? I know anyone doing that

for the 250th? I know anyone doing that one. I want to go

one. I want to go nice. Oh yeah, there we go. Solid

nice. Oh yeah, there we go. Solid vowel. Yeah. No. Uh the the 250th it's

vowel. Yeah. No. Uh the the 250th it's what we'll go. We'll show up. We'll have

what we'll go. We'll show up. We'll have our events and then people are coming

our events and then people are coming out. Is the general public allowed to

out. Is the general public allowed to just come hang out? Yeah. Yeah. So, uh,

just come hang out? Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, the first part of that day, June 14th,

the first part of that day, June 14th, we'll start out with the best file

we'll start out with the best file competition, general public allowed

competition, general public allowed there. Watch, uh, that's like 900 a.m.

there. Watch, uh, that's like 900 a.m. to 11, I think, something like that.

to 11, I think, something like that. That's right there on the mall in DC,

That's right there on the mall in DC, June 14th. And then we'll go into like

June 14th. And then we'll go into like an army festival kind of thing. We'll

an army festival kind of thing. We'll have a bunch of old stuff that we're

have a bunch of old stuff that we're cutting out there and people are just

cutting out there and people are just allowed to hit with hammers.

allowed to hit with hammers. Wait, what?

Wait, what? Absolute equipment.

Absolute equipment. I think that is a fantastic idea. That'd

I think that is a fantastic idea. That'd be cool. We can shoot drones into them.

be cool. We can shoot drones into them. See how they survive, which same same

See how they survive, which same same time. Depends on what you bring out cuz

time. Depends on what you bring out cuz good luck denting a Sherman. Yeah,

good luck denting a Sherman. Yeah, that's true. Actually, that's like a

that's true. Actually, that's like a cool like we're not getting rid of

cool like we're not getting rid of Shermans. We're going to actually bring

Shermans. We're going to actually bring them back.

them back. Just so many. What's old is new. Um and

Just so many. What's old is new. Um and so we'll have Army Festival. Uh they

so we'll have Army Festival. Uh they just like if you can imagine like a

just like if you can imagine like a county fair or a fair down in in the

county fair or a fair down in in the mall. Uh you guys will be there. Um and

mall. Uh you guys will be there. Um and you know stuff for the public to do and

you know stuff for the public to do and then that'll that'll transition into the

then that'll that'll transition into the parade that evening I think about 400

parade that evening I think about 400 p.m. parade go down Constitution Avenue.

p.m. parade go down Constitution Avenue. The president at the end is going to

The president at the end is going to enlist about 200 new recruits into the

enlist about 200 new recruits into the army. That's when Brandon signs up.

army. That's when Brandon signs up. Uhhuh. That's when Brandon's going to be

Uhhuh. That's when Brandon's going to be there.

there. Army, not Navy. Bren, you're going to

Army, not Navy. Bren, you're going to hate your paychecks. He's He's resigning

hate your paychecks. He's He's resigning his appointment as an admiral

his appointment as an admiral and he resigns his [ __ ] We should

and he resigns his [ __ ] We should trick Finn into joining the army.

trick Finn into joining the army. Hey, you be I I I'm a prisoner of what I

Hey, you be I I I'm a prisoner of what I do. I was like, "Hey, how old is that

do. I was like, "Hey, how old is that dude?"

dude?" cuz we could use, you know, we could use

cuz we could use, you know, we could use editors and like uh so Finn being an

editors and like uh so Finn being an editor for the army would be a crazy

editor for the army would be a crazy plot twist. That' be so good. We need

plot twist. That' be so good. We need good editors. Um

good editors. Um awesome. And

awesome. And then say awesome. Yeah. And

then say awesome. Yeah. And uh and then uh fireworks and um and

uh and then uh fireworks and um and that's like the Army birthday day. And

that's like the Army birthday day. And then there's a bunch of stuff

then there's a bunch of stuff surrounding that. I want to have fun

surrounding that. I want to have fun with it though. That's where I want like

with it though. That's where I want like you can go get smoked by Angry Coughs

you can go get smoked by Angry Coughs because he's going to be there. You just

because he's going to be there. You just have a line where he smokes like 15

have a line where he smokes like 15 individuals at the same time. Rotate

individuals at the same time. Rotate through.

through. Oh, he'd have a blast with it. Yeah. Oh,

Oh, he'd have a blast with it. Yeah. Oh, Rich has a good time interacting. He's

Rich has a good time interacting. He's still a drill sergeant. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

still a drill sergeant. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. He popped up

Yeah. Yeah. That's great. He popped up like people are cropping him into other

like people are cropping him into other videos. He popped up on like a random

videos. He popped up on like a random Instagram thing I had yesterday. It was

Instagram thing I had yesterday. It was just like him superimposed and BDUs and

just like him superimposed and BDUs and I was

I was like, "Oh god, where is He's in

like, "Oh god, where is He's in everything now." How is it working with

everything now." How is it working with soldiers like with that kind of

soldiers like with that kind of following and you have to Is there any

following and you have to Is there any dealing with it? Cuz that's a dude that

dealing with it? Cuz that's a dude that has like millions of followers now and

has like millions of followers now and he's a drill sergeant. We

he's a drill sergeant. We know he gets kicked off of R or being a

know he gets kicked off of R or being a drill sergeant. He gets like instantly

drill sergeant. He gets like instantly like

like what do you mean? like um he's been on

what do you mean? like um he's been on what one time he got showed up to duty

what one time he got showed up to duty the other his NC nic or whether the

the other his NC nic or whether the commander of that unit knew who he was

commander of that unit knew who he was and they're like no we're not going to

and they're like no we're not going to have like the like the recruits are

have like the like the recruits are going to be like that's the guy from

going to be like that's the guy from YouTube as he's like as he's [ __ ] him

YouTube as he's like as he's [ __ ] him down I know recently it was uh it was

down I know recently it was uh it was kind of like a courtesy thing cuz it was

kind of like a courtesy thing cuz it was through all the Buffalo school stuff oh

through all the Buffalo school stuff oh that one no so that's different so that

that one no so that's different so that was a courtesy it's like hey take a day

was a courtesy it's like hey take a day off but when he goes to his active duty

off but when he goes to his active duty status. I don't know if I've ever heard

status. I don't know if I've ever heard him talk about that. Yeah. So, he'll get

him talk about that. Yeah. So, he'll get like removed from it. One was for um he

like removed from it. One was for um he got in trouble or they tried to Well,

got in trouble or they tried to Well, that one I knew about. Yeah. They're

that one I knew about. Yeah. They're like, "Well, he's saying this stuff."

like, "Well, he's saying this stuff." He's like, "What? I smoke?" He treats

He's like, "What? I smoke?" He treats everyone very equally. He doesn't care

everyone very equally. He doesn't care about like female male. It is you're

about like female male. It is you're private and you're a soldier and you're

private and you're a soldier and you're an idiot at the end of the day. So, I'm

an idiot at the end of the day. So, I'm going to smoke you like the exact same.

going to smoke you like the exact same. And that got him in trouble. And that's

And that got him in trouble. And that's where he was like, "What the [ __ ] is

where he was like, "What the [ __ ] is this dumb shit?" You think it's related

this dumb shit?" You think it's related to what he does on YouTube or you think

to what he does on YouTube or you think it's because we get people in trouble

it's because we get people in trouble for doing dumb [ __ ] I don't know cuz

for doing dumb [ __ ] I don't know cuz this one was I think it was two females

this one was I think it was two females complained if I'm not mistaken that it

complained if I'm not mistaken that it was like you know uh sexist or whatever

was like you know uh sexist or whatever it was. It was something like get your

it was. It was something like get your ass on the ground or something. It's

ass on the ground or something. It's like well well that was sexual. It's

like well well that was sexual. It's like no he was telling you get your

like no he was telling you get your [ __ ] ass on the ground.

[ __ ] ass on the ground. A normal but they know him as they know

A normal but they know him as they know him as angry cops too. So he gets still

him as angry cops too. So he gets still that push back even as a police officer.

that push back even as a police officer. He's talked about it. Co that would have

He's talked about it. Co that would have been like Cody being dude as big as you

been like Cody being dude as big as you are as an active duty cop right now.

are as an active duty cop right now. Yeah. I wouldn't do it. I left because I

Yeah. I wouldn't do it. I left because I started getting followers. I don't want

started getting followers. I don't want to be a cop anymore. Yeah. Paid way more

to be a cop anymore. Yeah. Paid way more and people don't spit in my face. This

and people don't spit in my face. This is rad.

is rad. I don't have Well, I mean I got to pay

I don't have Well, I mean I got to pay them.

I didn't like that pronoun. I thought you said you guys were

I thought you said you guys were friends.

friends. Well, I mean, you guys didn't get the

Well, I mean, you guys didn't get the white shirt memo. Oh, yeah.

white shirt memo. Oh, yeah. How did Did you guys actually pick

How did Did you guys actually pick different shirts? No, we just we showed

different shirts? No, we just we showed up to brunch today and both went, "God

up to brunch today and both went, "God damn it." How do you both I don't know.

damn it." How do you both I don't know. We should have mixed it up a little bit.

We should have mixed it up a little bit. I didn't expect that. We did. No one

I didn't expect that. We did. No one else wore white. Yeah.

else wore white. Yeah. Like none of us wore the same color.

Like none of us wore the same color. The brothers got dressed the same. Mom

The brothers got dressed the same. Mom dressed this way.

So you asked how's it working with the active duty guys. Um I don't think it's

active duty guys. Um I don't think it's working great. So we have I think four

working great. So we have I think four or five of the big names kind of

or five of the big names kind of centrally working at uh Fort

centrally working at uh Fort Kavasos. Um

Kavasos. Um what is it for? I was [ __ ] very

what is it for? I was [ __ ] very confused by that. Mexican which is it's

confused by that. Mexican which is it's here. I know. I know it's in Texas, but

here. I know. I know it's in Texas, but like some city in Texas. Colleen. Yeah,

like some city in Texas. Colleen. Yeah, Ken. Texas. It's like two and a half

Ken. Texas. It's like two and a half hours. Yeah. It's up like between here

hours. Yeah. It's up like between here and Dallas. Yeah, we're in the same

and Dallas. Yeah, we're in the same state. Oh, no. [ __ ] I thought eight. I

state. Oh, no. [ __ ] I thought eight. I thought Hood was way further away. I

thought Hood was way further away. I don't think so. Might be thinking about

don't think so. Might be thinking about Bliss. That Bliss. Never mind. Bliss is

Bliss. That Bliss. Never mind. Bliss is like 8 hours. It's over New Mexico,

like 8 hours. It's over New Mexico, buddy. I'm [ __ ] Um, so so we have

buddy. I'm [ __ ] Um, so so we have them. Okay, we accept you. We I don't

them. Okay, we accept you. We I don't know why or how they're at Kavasos, but

know why or how they're at Kavasos, but we have them there. I think they were

we have them there. I think they were there and then we just brought them

there and then we just brought them together. But they're not they're not

together. But they're not they're not working for public affairs. They're like

working for public affairs. They're like public affairs adjacent. And

public affairs adjacent. And so I don't know. All I know is like when

so I don't know. All I know is like when we're doing good stuff, we just we just

we're doing good stuff, we just we just changed the army fitness test. I'll go

changed the army fitness test. I'll go to them and say, "Hey, change army

to them and say, "Hey, change army fitness test. Here's the here's why we

fitness test. Here's the here's why we changed it. Here's you know what what

changed it. Here's you know what what we're saying about it. You guys want to

we're saying about it. You guys want to do something? Please. It'd be great. It

do something? Please. It'd be great. It would be helpful to us." And um there

would be helpful to us." And um there were times when and I don't know if we

were times when and I don't know if we name names or whatever. Some of the guys

name names or whatever. Some of the guys came back to me and said uh here do you

came back to me and said uh here do you want to see it before it goes out? And

want to see it before it goes out? And I'm like I don't want to see this [ __ ]

I'm like I don't want to see this [ __ ] because you know if you start worrying

because you know if you start worrying about me doing it, you know, now it's on

about me doing it, you know, now it's on me. No, no. I I don't care. I'll take

me. No, no. I I don't care. I'll take all the risk. I I'll take the risk

all the risk. I I'll take the risk saying I'll take the risk saying I

saying I'll take the risk saying I purposely did not review it. But um I

purposely did not review it. But um I always say this like when people making

always say this like when people making videos and stuff, you know, you have a

videos and stuff, you know, you have a Van Go, you have a a painting that

Van Go, you have a a painting that you're very proud of and then uh 16

you're very proud of and then uh 16 levels of supervisors start putting the

levels of supervisors start putting the Post-it notes on the painting. They're

Post-it notes on the painting. They're like, "Well, can you add this?" And you

like, "Well, can you add this?" And you know, maybe you can make that shade a

know, maybe you can make that shade a little bit darker because we're all

little bit darker because we're all super experts. And then you end up with

super experts. And then you end up with new Star Wars and then you end up Yeah.

new Star Wars and then you end up Yeah. Yeah. There's a Star Wars thing over

Yeah. There's a Star Wars thing over there. Bring back Jar Jar.

there. Bring back Jar Jar. That was fed. I regret that immediately.

That was fed. I regret that immediately. I'm like, "These guys are the experts

I'm like, "These guys are the experts obviously like based on their success

obviously like based on their success and and what they you know what they're

and and what they you know what they're they've shown to be able to do and I

they've shown to be able to do and I trust that they have the army's best

trust that they have the army's best interest in in mind. And so please just

interest in in mind. And so please just go do don't ask me to [ __ ] with your

go do don't ask me to [ __ ] with your thing because it's not going to be

thing because it's not going to be better. It's probably going to be

better. It's probably going to be worse." Um, so anyway, we need to give

worse." Um, so anyway, we need to give them the freedom to to do the stuff we

them the freedom to to do the stuff we need to empower them and we would really

need to empower them and we would really really like to keep them in the army,

really like to keep them in the army, but there's a lot of money out there and

but there's a lot of money out there and it's, you know, the army

it's, you know, the army still requires a bunch of stuff from

still requires a bunch of stuff from you. It's still like a dumb bureaucracy

you. It's still like a dumb bureaucracy oftent times. And so, uh, we got to we

oftent times. And so, uh, we got to we got to try to sort that out a little bit

got to try to sort that out a little bit better. We're not real not really

better. We're not real not really different than any large organizations,

different than any large organizations, whether it's corporate, government.

whether it's corporate, government. Yeah. You get an an entity to a certain

Yeah. You get an an entity to a certain size, you're going to have bureaucracy

size, you're going to have bureaucracy that just [ __ ] sucks. Which which is

that just [ __ ] sucks. Which which is weird because in World War II, like we

weird because in World War II, like we had we it the threat was existential.

had we it the threat was existential. So, we brought in people who we didn't

So, we brought in people who we didn't think were normal for the army like

think were normal for the army like Oppenheimer like to do the Manhattan

Oppenheimer like to do the Manhattan project. We brought in engineers to do

project. We brought in engineers to do something wild. So having people with

something wild. So having people with unique skills that aren't resonant sort

unique skills that aren't resonant sort of at large, it's not new. We're just

of at large, it's not new. We're just treating it. People get concerned. They

treating it. People get concerned. They get sort of weirded out. Social media,

get sort of weirded out. Social media, that's a skill. And you guys know, we

that's a skill. And you guys know, we talked about a little bit, but this

talked about a little bit, but this morning like what you do is unique and

morning like what you do is unique and difficult and it's not it doesn't scale

difficult and it's not it doesn't scale very well. So bringing those people in.

very well. So bringing those people in. Same with like technical expertise. Same

Same with like technical expertise. Same with engineers. So it's it's not

with engineers. So it's it's not something we haven't done before. It's

something we haven't done before. It's just people are uncomfortable because

just people are uncomfortable because it's different. And one of the things

it's different. And one of the things that Dave's really good at, and I would

that Dave's really good at, and I would say if even if it wasn't here, is just

say if even if it wasn't here, is just sort of going, "H, no, that's [ __ ]

sort of going, "H, no, that's [ __ ] We're gonna do it anyway."

We're gonna do it anyway." Um, let's talk about the tech guys real

Um, let's talk about the tech guys real quick without naming names. Okay. So, so

quick without naming names. Okay. So, so throw somebody under the bus real quick.

throw somebody under the bus real quick. No, I want to like Can we name names?

No, I want to like Can we name names? No, like I want to like applaud these

No, like I want to like applaud these guys cuz they're amazing. Warn them

guys cuz they're amazing. Warn them first before we name names. So anyway,

first before we name names. So anyway, on the Army birthday, we're going to

on the Army birthday, we're going to commission four highlevel tech

commission four highlevel tech executives um from from companies that

executives um from from companies that that you'll you know, very familiar uh

that you'll you know, very familiar uh companies. And these guys came to us and

companies. And these guys came to us and they said, "Hey, we uh see what's going

they said, "Hey, we uh see what's going on in the change and everything. We want

on in the change and everything. We want to be a part of it more than we are. Um,

to be a part of it more than we are. Um, and we want to prove that we're part of

and we want to prove that we're part of it by wearing the cloth in the nation.

it by wearing the cloth in the nation. And so, uh, they're not doing it for the

And so, uh, they're not doing it for the pay fellas. Uh, so no, they're all we're

pay fellas. Uh, so no, they're all we're going to commission them as reser on on,

going to commission them as reser on on, uh, June 13th. And, um, wait, they're

uh, June 13th. And, um, wait, they're actually So, they're in the civilian

actually So, they're in the civilian side already doing very very well.

side already doing very very well. They're Yes. tech executives like And

They're Yes. tech executives like And they're joining the [ __ ] reserves.

they're joining the [ __ ] reserves. Yep. Dude, [ __ ] And Brandon's one of

Yep. Dude, [ __ ] And Brandon's one of them.

That's why that's why he's going to Rangers on the 14th. I'll see y'all

Rangers on the 14th. I'll see y'all [ __ ] in 62 days. We're going to

[ __ ] in 62 days. We're going to get shipped out by

like But it's super cool. What do you mean

mean activation? It's like war.

You got the manscaper. Oh

manscaper. Oh man. I hear that. You're going one of

man. I hear that. You're going one of your sponsors. It is going to be

your sponsors. It is going to be hopefully if it's right here though.

hopefully if it's right here though. Brought to you by Butler. Not endorsing

Brought to you by Butler. Not endorsing any. Yeah. I just get you fired real

any. Yeah. I just get you fired real quick. You're going to clandu. I saw I

quick. You're going to clandu. I saw I saw one sitting over there. So I was

saw one sitting over there. So I was like, "Oh, uh the US military does not

like, "Oh, uh the US military does not endorse any brand of ball shaver.

endorse any brand of ball shaver. We accept all the ball shaver." No. So

We accept all the ball shaver." No. So So we're going to commission them. We're

So we're going to commission them. We're going to direct condition, which is a a

going to direct condition, which is a a a an authority that Congress gave us

a an authority that Congress gave us several years ago as cyber officers

several years ago as cyber officers because they're all tech executives and

because they're all tech executives and and we didn't have they they're not

and we didn't have they they're not going to be cyber people like they're

going to be cyber people like they're not going to be doing like offensive or

not going to be doing like offensive or anything, but that's the right place for

anything, but that's the right place for them as one weekend a month still. So So

them as one weekend a month still. So So this is the weird thing. So they have to

this is the weird thing. So they have to do it's actually not one weekend a

do it's actually not one weekend a month, it's it's a number of hours a

month, it's it's a number of hours a year. Hours a year. Yeah. And what we're

year. Hours a year. Yeah. And what we're going to do is

going to do is frankly and and all of us do the same

frankly and and all of us do the same thing. if we give you a hard problem

thing. if we give you a hard problem because what we're going to allow them

because what we're going to allow them to do is go to a unit, go, "Hey, what is

to do is go to a unit, go, "Hey, what is the hardest thing that you have? Let me

the hardest thing that you have? Let me help you think it through." And and

help you think it through." And and everybody, all the ethics lawyers were

everybody, all the ethics lawyers were like, "Oh, they're going to help their

like, "Oh, they're going to help their companies." No, they're all

companies." No, they're all billionaires. They're literally

billionaires. They're literally billionaires already. Their companies

billionaires already. Their companies don't need the army's money. Um, so no,

don't need the army's money. Um, so no, they're not going to have insider

they're not going to have insider trading issues. They just want to be

trading issues. They just want to be there and be like, "Hey, how can we help

there and be like, "Hey, how can we help you solve your problem?" So 200 hours a

you solve your problem?" So 200 hours a year. And frankly, what we're going to

year. And frankly, what we're going to do is we're going to count it. If they

do is we're going to count it. If they go and spend a day with one of our units

go and spend a day with one of our units and they go home and they're like, "Hey,

and they go home and they're like, "Hey, I'm going to think about this and like

I'm going to think about this and like help you out." That counts. I mean,

help you out." That counts. I mean, we'll get thousands and thousands of

we'll get thousands and thousands of hours. A lot of that because they

hours. A lot of that because they already in bed with us. They're So,

already in bed with us. They're So, we're going to commission them as

we're going to commission them as lieutenant colonels. We got the SEC defe

lieutenant colonels. We got the SEC defe approved it. Congress is tracking. Damn,

approved it. Congress is tracking. Damn, they're starting as lieutenant colonels.

they're starting as lieutenant colonels. Yep. [ __ ] yeah. Well, they're of that

Yep. [ __ ] yeah. Well, they're of that they're of that age. So, five weeks a

they're of that age. So, five weeks a year is essentially what you're asking

year is essentially what you're asking from them. Basically, basically. And

from them. Basically, basically. And just just dude, can we be Lieutenant

just just dude, can we be Lieutenant Colonels? Jesus, Eli. Eli's just like

Colonels? Jesus, Eli. Eli's just like twisting that screwdriver figure. That's

twisting that screwdriver figure. That's for all of us. We all become Lieutenant

for all of us. We all become Lieutenant Colonels. It's It is funny though that

Colonels. It's It is funny though that you mentioned that cuz you're like these

you mentioned that cuz you're like these are already tech billionaires, whatever.

are already tech billionaires, whatever. Like cuz people have the concern like

Like cuz people have the concern like they're going to pad their own pockets.

they're going to pad their own pockets. I don't think those people have ever met

I don't think those people have ever met anybody who's reached the $100 million

anybody who's reached the $100 million line. Yeah. Because like you uh maybe

line. Yeah. Because like you uh maybe you take out like some bankers and real

you take out like some bankers and real estate people, whatever, like those

estate people, whatever, like those those types out of the equation, but

those types out of the equation, but like the people who made it by building

like the people who made it by building a product just cuz they're smart guys

a product just cuz they're smart guys and they just want to solve problems.

and they just want to solve problems. They're built different. They are.

They're built different. They are. That's right. And I had an opportunity

That's right. And I had an opportunity to um so I know all of them personally,

to um so I know all of them personally, which is a

which is a I'm very thankful that I get to like

I'm very thankful that I get to like know these people and work with them and

know these people and work with them and and help solve problems. I spent hours

and help solve problems. I spent hours with them in a van going out to We took

with them in a van going out to We took them to NTC, like the greatest place on

them to NTC, like the greatest place on earth, Ford Irwin, California. Yeah. Um

earth, Ford Irwin, California. Yeah. Um and it was just one of the greatest

and it was just one of the greatest times. We spent three hours going one

times. We spent three hours going one way, three hours going the other way,

way, three hours going the other way, just going like, "Hey, how do we think

just going like, "Hey, how do we think about this problem? How could you solve

about this problem? How could you solve it?" Um they just care about America

it?" Um they just care about America enough to go, I'll do this. Yeah. So,

enough to go, I'll do this. Yeah. So, it's it's very cool. That's a nice

it's it's very cool. That's a nice little teaser for June 13th. But uh so

little teaser for June 13th. But uh so what's up for the what's on the horizon

what's up for the what's on the horizon for you guys after the 250? Just back to

for you guys after the 250? Just back to work. Uh back to work. Yeah, we've got a

work. Uh back to work. Yeah, we've got a we've got a uh what I call in the

we've got a uh what I call in the infantry consolidate our gains and and

infantry consolidate our gains and and um uh consolidate reorganize.

um uh consolidate reorganize. Once once we go through kind of the

Once once we go through kind of the budget cycle and cut all this stuff and

budget cycle and cut all this stuff and we're reinvesting it and then so we've

we're reinvesting it and then so we've got to move the army to to reorganize

got to move the army to to reorganize based on that um and to change our

based on that um and to change our training and our doctrine based on all

training and our doctrine based on all the new stuff. Yeah. So, so through the

the new stuff. Yeah. So, so through the rest of the summer, um the thing we keep

rest of the summer, um the thing we keep mentioning and no, we actually actually

mentioning and no, we actually actually haven't talked about it is the SECDF

haven't talked about it is the SECDF signed out a memo called Army

signed out a memo called Army Transformation Initiative and told us to

Transformation Initiative and told us to do things um like consolidate two of our

do things um like consolidate two of our fourstar headquarters, consolidate some

fourstar headquarters, consolidate some of our our forces command with some of

of our our forces command with some of our Army North and Army South. Um so the

our Army North and Army South. Um so the rest of the summer is working through

rest of the summer is working through how do you do that mechanically? Like

how do you do that mechanically? Like where do you put those people? Do we

where do you put those people? Do we keep those people? Because some like the

keep those people? Because some like the other thing the the president and the

other thing the the president and the white house and the sect are saying is

white house and the sect are saying is slim yourself down. Like the

slim yourself down. Like the headquarters have gotten too bulky.

headquarters have gotten too bulky. There's a lot of fat to be trimmed.

There's a lot of fat to be trimmed. Thinking through how do we do that? And

Thinking through how do we do that? And then frankly, and this is like the

then frankly, and this is like the unromantic unsexy thing from the

unromantic unsexy thing from the Pentagon perspective, how do we set some

Pentagon perspective, how do we set some of these things in motion and just let

of these things in motion and just let the army function and make sure that the

the army function and make sure that the stuff's there for them for them to be

stuff's there for them for them to be being soldiers and units?

being soldiers and units? Yeah, we're it's kind of a big deal.

Yeah, we're it's kind of a big deal. We're cutting uh a bunch of We're

We're cutting uh a bunch of We're cutting a fourstar headquarters

cutting a fourstar headquarters actually. Yeah, one main fourstar

actually. Yeah, one main fourstar headquarters. We're consolidating a

headquarters. We're consolidating a bunch of commands. Uh cutting 40 plus 40

bunch of commands. Uh cutting 40 plus 40 plus general officer positions. So,

plus general officer positions. So, General George has really been doing

General George has really been doing this since he got to be the chief, but

this since he got to be the chief, but the secretary of defense gave us the

the secretary of defense gave us the directive and the kind of permission to

directive and the kind of permission to do it. And so we're leaning out all the

do it. And so we're leaning out all the top heavy stuff in the army and getting

top heavy stuff in the army and getting the um getting the numbers back into the

the um getting the numbers back into the force, you know, so you have

force, you know, so you have non-commission officers and you have

non-commission officers and you have soldiers into formations and not

soldiers into formations and not surrounding fourstar generals somewhere.

surrounding fourstar generals somewhere. Yeah, I bet you could probably help with

Yeah, I bet you could probably help with some of the budgetary issues and and

some of the budgetary issues and and whatnot if you guys just you did an

whatnot if you guys just you did an auction on the the the Millie portrait.

auction on the the the Millie portrait. V.

V. Yeah. Comment.

Yeah. Comment. Yeah. I would be very curious to see

Yeah. I would be very curious to see what that would sell for. And I know

what that would sell for. And I know it's sitting in an office somewhere. So,

it's sitting in an office somewhere. So, you want to talk about a tank? No. Yeah.

you want to talk about a tank? No. Yeah. No, they um I had to I had

No, they um I had to I had to like [ __ ] you. Um No, but like the

to like [ __ ] you. Um No, but like the other the

other the other expecting that.

other expecting that. No, but in there's there's a lot of

No, but in there's there's a lot of other cool stuff going on. So, like the

other cool stuff going on. So, like the headquarter stuff, that's all like

headquarter stuff, that's all like bureaucracy stuff. Um, if you want to

bureaucracy stuff. Um, if you want to know the cool stuff the army's doing,

know the cool stuff the army's doing, like we're going to do live fires on the

like we're going to do live fires on the new tank. Like I'm going to go up to

new tank. Like I'm going to go up to Detroit in July and see live fires and

Detroit in July and see live fires and like how do we do that? Um, we'll drive

like how do we do that? Um, we'll drive it in December. We'll do new rocket

it in December. We'll do new rocket tests in July. We'll do um fly our new

tests in July. We'll do um fly our new drones all through the summer. Like the

drones all through the summer. Like the the army can we be part of any of that

the army can we be part of any of that to bring out? Yeah, it we'll figure it

to bring out? Yeah, it we'll figure it out. Not open to the public, but you

out. Not open to the public, but you know what I mean. Like classified. It's

know what I mean. Like classified. It's not classified. And and I love being

not classified. And and I love being able to tell taxpayers, here's how we're

able to tell taxpayers, here's how we're spending your money. Here's how we're

spending your money. Here's how we're spending our money. We're doing the

spending our money. We're doing the right thing. So yeah, like it'll be on

right thing. So yeah, like it'll be on our dime. We'll [ __ ] fly out there if

our dime. We'll [ __ ] fly out there if you give us No, I'm talking about like

you give us No, I'm talking about like with like with like the tank stuff. Um

with like with like the tank stuff. Um Yeah, we'll still fly out. Hell yeah.

Yeah, we'll still fly out. Hell yeah. But if you let us shoot that [ __ ]

But if you let us shoot that [ __ ] that'd be awesome. No, I hate shooting

that'd be awesome. No, I hate shooting tanks.

tanks. It's like I hate your like this the US A

It's like I hate your like this the US A [ __ ] where it's like, "Oh, we went to

[ __ ] where it's like, "Oh, we went to Sudan and spent $2 billion on male

Sudan and spent $2 billion on male circumcision."

circumcision." God, man, I really just [ __ ] hate the

God, man, I really just [ __ ] hate the IRS. I see a tank blow up some [ __ ] from

IRS. I see a tank blow up some [ __ ] from a mile away. I'm like, I can pay a

a mile away. I'm like, I can pay a little bit of taxes. Yeah. Well, well,

little bit of taxes. Yeah. Well, well, think Well, think about this. This new

think Well, think about this. This new tank is kickass. It It is. And like I

tank is kickass. It It is. And like I don't even know what the new one is. So,

don't even know what the new one is. So, it's it's called the M1 E3. E3. So, the

it's it's called the M1 E3. E3. So, the Abrams The Abrams is an amazing tank.

Abrams The Abrams is an amazing tank. Yeah, it is the best battle tank in the

Yeah, it is the best battle tank in the world. You definitely can. Um the the M1

world. You definitely can. Um the the M1 A2 sub V3 like the the AB when I saw it

A2 sub V3 like the the AB when I saw it was best main battle tank in the world.

was best main battle tank in the world. It was like hidden in a tent. Yeah, I

It was like hidden in a tent. Yeah, I know. Is that it? Wait. No, that's a web

know. Is that it? Wait. No, that's a web page.

page. Yes, that's like the mockup. Um so like

Yes, that's like the mockup. Um so like one of the things that's about that is

one of the things that's about that is it has an autoloader. So, how do you

it has an autoloader. So, how do you take like the same way that your your

take like the same way that your your rifle like you pull the trigger once and

rifle like you pull the trigger once and it cycles like right now inside of an

it cycles like right now inside of an Abrams [ __ ] pull it and a dude

Abrams [ __ ] pull it and a dude literally big dude? What if we just

literally big dude? What if we just automated that? So, we'll start doing

automated that? So, we'll start doing that. The to my understanding the

that. The to my understanding the Soviets were were super big in the auto

Soviets were were super big in the auto loaders, right? Yeah. Russians got

loaders, right? Yeah. Russians got really good at it. Yeah, but that was

really good at it. Yeah, but that was one of the weaknesses of their tanks is

one of the weaknesses of their tanks is that the auto loaders basically you hit

that the auto loaders basically you hit anything into the turret and all those

anything into the turret and all those rounds go off and it'll fail. Holy [ __ ]

rounds go off and it'll fail. Holy [ __ ] The cameras on that [ __ ] Yeah. So, I'm

The cameras on that [ __ ] Yeah. So, I'm assuming that's a solved problem in

assuming that's a solved problem in this. Yeah. So, that's what we're going

this. Yeah. So, that's what we're going through testing on. So, that like if you

through testing on. So, that like if you if you take a round like the main battle

if you take a round like the main battle tank should be able to tank a round,

tank should be able to tank a round, right? And and not self-destruct. So,

right? And and not self-destruct. So, yes. Well, the Soviets weren't very good

yes. Well, the Soviets weren't very good at that part. Yeah. True. Lol. Um, but

at that part. Yeah. True. Lol. Um, but the other thing in their budgetary so

the other thing in their budgetary so many the reason they have so many

many the reason they have so many cameras is what if that tank was also

cameras is what if that tank was also like I don't know optionally manned.

like I don't know optionally manned. What if it was a robot itself and what

What if it was a robot itself and what if we had I don't know like F1 seats in

if we had I don't know like F1 seats in there that were comfortable to drive and

there that were comfortable to drive and you could like have software driving it

you could like have software driving it for you and help you so that you don't

for you and help you so that you don't have four dudes in a big metal box that

have four dudes in a big metal box that have to crawl out the back if something

have to crawl out the back if something catastrophic happens. That's why I was

catastrophic happens. That's why I was like so a lot of the you were even

like so a lot of the you were even saying with breaching it's like hey we

saying with breaching it's like hey we can just have

can just have something an object a remote object

something an object a remote object breach and then you don't have to worry

breach and then you don't have to worry about a soldier getting [ __ ] up. Yeah

about a soldier getting [ __ ] up. Yeah we which we've done by the way the

we which we've done by the way the remote breaching. No [ __ ] Uh so have

remote breaching. No [ __ ] Uh so have you heard of the uh Miklick mine

you heard of the uh Miklick mine mine clearing shoots out big

mine clearing shoots out big charge and then blows up. It's like a

charge and then blows up. It's like a big thing of deck cord essentially.

big thing of deck cord essentially. Exactly. Exactly right. So right now,

Exactly. Exactly right. So right now, soldiers drive that up there. You drive

soldiers drive that up there. You drive it up to the line to the minefield.

it up to the line to the minefield. Yeah. And you have to clear the

Yeah. And you have to clear the minefield and everybody knows where

minefield and everybody knows where you're going and everybody's shooting at

you're going and everybody's shooting at you. Yeah. So what if you just had a

you. Yeah. So what if you just had a robot do that? Or even better, what if

robot do that? Or even better, what if you had a robot drive up and like a

you had a robot drive up and like a bunch of small drones come off of it, go

bunch of small drones come off of it, go find the mines cuz they can have a

find the mines cuz they can have a camera and just go boop and blow up the

camera and just go boop and blow up the mines. So you actually have something

mines. So you actually have something like what if we just didn't put soldiers

like what if we just didn't put soldiers in really shitty situations all the time

in really shitty situations all the time because we have robots for you to think

because we have robots for you to think I want me to

I want me to that's where I was

that's where I was well the Russian army has some new

well the Russian army has some new openings. They have five rounds and one

openings. They have five rounds and one rifle and you just figure it out. It's

rifle and you just figure it out. It's funny though. It's an important point

funny though. It's an important point though because it's funny

at the end of the day, right? As savage as we are, human beings are um you're

as we are, human beings are um you're not wars are won by putting soldiers in

not wars are won by putting soldiers in the mud, taking and holding terrain. So,

the mud, taking and holding terrain. So, we still need it. All this drones and

we still need it. All this drones and the robots and stuff and all this stuff

the robots and stuff and all this stuff that this guy's like developing in his

that this guy's like developing in his evil uh bedroom at night or wherever the

evil uh bedroom at night or wherever the [ __ ] What do you say evil? It's very

[ __ ] What do you say evil? It's very dark and scary and better. Might I say

dark and scary and better. Might I say better? Uh that's my thinking space.

better? Uh that's my thinking space. Anyway, it's not it's not going to

Anyway, it's not it's not going to replace uh

replace uh soldiers on the ground. And so so our

soldiers on the ground. And so so our stuff is built around getting soldiers

stuff is built around getting soldiers into position to take and hold ground,

into position to take and hold ground, but not making them do the shitty jobs

but not making them do the shitty jobs by by not Yeah. wasting well the

by by not Yeah. wasting well the dangerous ones. So So like would join

dangerous ones. So So like would join way too early. What are robots good at?

way too early. What are robots good at? Dull, dirty, dangerous. Um, that's what

Dull, dirty, dangerous. Um, that's what robots are good for. And and all the

robots are good for. And and all the things that

things that like soldiers will always do dangerous

like soldiers will always do dangerous things. Like we expect them on behalf of

things. Like we expect them on behalf of the country to do like terrible things

the country to do like terrible things on our behalf. Driving, finding every

on our behalf. Driving, finding every portaotti possible. Um, no, but but

portaotti possible. Um, no, but but like like Kuwait does Kuwait's a

like like Kuwait does Kuwait's a terrible

terrible place. But what what like what if some

place. But what what like what if some of the things that we know we know that

of the things that we know we know that we can like stop that? Like what if into

we can like stop that? Like what if into the breach like into the the first dude

the breach like into the the first dude in the door? What if that was a robot

in the door? What if that was a robot every time instead of just one of our

every time instead of just one of our guys? That'd be cool, right? So So

guys? That'd be cool, right? So So second guy in isn't isn't like soaking

second guy in isn't isn't like soaking up all the fire cuz the robot's gone.

up all the fire cuz the robot's gone. And if the robot blows up and dies,

And if the robot blows up and dies, okay, like Wall-E, like we'll we'll

okay, like Wall-E, like we'll we'll build Wally 2.0. Well, I mean, according

build Wally 2.0. Well, I mean, according to my Marine Corps friends, the first

to my Marine Corps friends, the first guy in usually an M67 frag grenade.

guy in usually an M67 frag grenade. There is. boarded the robot through

There is. boarded the robot through googly eyes of them with googly

mama's just sweating. So, but what's

So, but what's replace? So, we are sending now a drone

replace? So, we are sending now a drone in, you know, like the the high-end

in, you know, like the the high-end special operations units. Baghdaddy.

special operations units. Baghdaddy. Others were killed. The drones are going

Others were killed. The drones are going in first. Oh, dude. Is Yep. Dogs with

in first. Oh, dude. Is Yep. Dogs with cameras. Yeah. Actually, one of my

cameras. Yeah. Actually, one of my buddies was on that raid like

buddies was on that raid like Yeah. Cool story. Yeah. But yeah, they

Yeah. Cool story. Yeah. But yeah, they were on that and the dog because uh the

were on that and the dog because uh the way they actually pivoted. They said the

way they actually pivoted. They said the dog died and dog was fine. Yeah, they

dog died and dog was fine. Yeah, they were they were fine. Um and uh the the

were they were fine. Um and uh the the robot dog. No, the dog dog. Dog dog.

robot dog. No, the dog dog. Dog dog. They sent in real dogs. Yeah. Cameras,

They sent in real dogs. Yeah. Cameras, um drones, explosive drones. Sending all

um drones, explosive drones. Sending all that [ __ ] This is regiment um doing

that [ __ ] This is regiment um doing some of their FPV stuff where that's

some of their FPV stuff where that's their shoot house and they literally

their shoot house and they literally flew the drone in and then cleared it.

flew the drone in and then cleared it. No. Sh. Whoa. Whoa. That's [ __ ] dope.

No. Sh. Whoa. Whoa. That's [ __ ] dope. Cool.

Cool. So, it's just an just a little drone

So, it's just an just a little drone that goes in first. And And think about

that goes in first. And And think about it. You put a ninebanger on and and the

it. You put a ninebanger on and and the like you don't care about the drone

like you don't care about the drone coming back, but you fly a nine banger

coming back, but you fly a nine banger in and you clear it and the first dude

in and you clear it and the first dude in like everybody's before the first guy

in like everybody's before the first guy breaches. Like we could do that every

breaches. Like we could do that every time. That's [ __ ] wild. Yeah.

time. That's [ __ ] wild. Yeah. Baghdaddy clocked himself off before he

Baghdaddy clocked himself off before he was [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah.

was [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. So you got like dollars and everything

So you got like dollars and everything from it.

from it. And then and then that's the one I

And then and then that's the one I showed you about earlier. Like that's

showed you about earlier. Like that's the ISV with the like all the gun mounts

the ISV with the like all the gun mounts on it. 24. Show him that. That's his

on it. 24. Show him that. That's his wheelhouse. Oh, that absolutely is just

wheelhouse. Oh, that absolutely is just Warhogesque. Right. Like I'm like

Warhogesque. Right. Like I'm like where's the G cannon? But you know the

where's the G cannon? But you know the Rangers have to have to like gun it up.

Rangers have to have to like gun it up. And I'm like it's not for fighting from

And I'm like it's not for fighting from guys. No, it's it's a true gets you

guys. No, it's it's a true gets you there so you don't have to walk in 12

there so you don't have to walk in 12 miles. lots of guns on it. So, is every

miles. lots of guns on it. So, is every acquisition process as [ __ ] as much

acquisition process as [ __ ] as much of a shitow as the NGSW program? Yes.

of a shitow as the NGSW program? Yes. Um, that's not fair. So, so it's super

Um, that's not fair. So, so it's super easy to [ __ ] on acquisition people. Um,

easy to [ __ ] on acquisition people. Um, there's a lot of really good ones. Like

there's a lot of really good ones. Like our acquisition used to be an

our acquisition used to be an acquisitions guy. No, I am qualified as

acquisitions guy. No, I am qualified as an acquisition. He's got the

an acquisition. He's got the acquisitions tab. Yeah, it's like

acquisitions tab. Yeah, it's like PowerPoint Ranger. Um, no. So, like our

PowerPoint Ranger. Um, no. So, like our acquisition military deputy, he's a

acquisition military deputy, he's a three star. He's phenomenal. I've worked

three star. He's phenomenal. I've worked with him for a decade. Like he is a

with him for a decade. Like he is a change maker. our um our current

change maker. our um our current principal deputy for acquisition. You

principal deputy for acquisition. You just came from from from Congress. He's

just came from from from Congress. He's a change maker and and not to shout on

a change maker and and not to shout on the guys, but the the the process the

the guys, but the the the process the process itself. Okay. So, we're

process itself. Okay. So, we're changing. We are changing. So, during G

changing. We are changing. So, during G authorization of needs. Well, yeah. So,

authorization of needs. Well, yeah. So, so during GWAT, we had like a way better

so during GWAT, we had like a way better way to do this. If you were like, hey, I

way to do this. If you were like, hey, I need something. We were like, yeah, why

need something. We were like, yeah, why wouldn't we buy that? And and we just

wouldn't we buy that? And and we just bought things like we bought credit card

bought things like we bought credit card like go for it. Yeah. So if it was

like go for it. Yeah. So if it was legal, moral, and ethical then,

legal, moral, and ethical then, it's legal, moral, and ethical now. So

it's legal, moral, and ethical now. So what we're doing now is instead of like

what we're doing now is instead of like we do this stupid thing where we have a

we do this stupid thing where we have a requirements document and somebody who's

requirements document and somebody who's making up words and they sound really

making up words and they sound really cool and the documents like this thick

cool and the documents like this thick and nobody ever actually reads it. Um

and nobody ever actually reads it. Um and and I mean that everybody probably

and and I mean that everybody probably just got really offended. I don't care.

just got really offended. I don't care. Like nobody actually reads those things.

Like nobody actually reads those things. So what if we just said, hm, it should

So what if we just said, hm, it should work. It should probably do like these

work. It should probably do like these things. It should work.

things. It should work. It should work. It should probably do

It should work. It should probably do these. So you're describing like

these. So you're describing like outcomes instead of pages specific

outcomes instead of pages specific things. So for so for our command and

things. So for so for our command and control stuff and everybody here has

control stuff and everybody here has seen TAC or ITAC or ATAC where it's

seen TAC or ITAC or ATAC where it's literally like an Android app on a

literally like an Android app on a phone.

So as we as we redo all of our command and control things like we just said,

and control things like we just said, hey, what if commanders could see to

hey, what if commanders could see to their unit from a tablet? What if we

their unit from a tablet? What if we could just see everything from a tablet?

could just see everything from a tablet? like build the architecture that does

like build the architecture that does that because I can see everything on

that because I can see everything on Google Maps. I can put I can put tabs

Google Maps. I can put I can put tabs down like we know the technology exists

down like we know the technology exists like like the unit did this. It's simple

like like the unit did this. It's simple people can already use it. Yeah. Exact

people can already use it. Yeah. Exact the UI is already like if you've used an

the UI is already like if you've used an iPhone you know how to drop pins like

iPhone you know how to drop pins like everybody already intuitively the reason

everybody already intuitively the reason why the baseball grenade like Exactly.

why the baseball grenade like Exactly. Yes. So if we told if we told industry

Yes. So if we told if we told industry uh well like 97% of kids coming into the

uh well like 97% of kids coming into the army have never thrown a baseball. Yes,

army have never thrown a baseball. Yes, it worked in World War II. It did. Wait,

it worked in World War II. It did. Wait, what? Wait, pause. So, so let's go back

what? Wait, pause. So, so let's go back to the acronym. Okay. So, so what if we

to the acronym. Okay. So, so what if we just told industry like the best of

just told industry like the best of industry like the companies that we have

industry like the companies that we have working on the first trunch and I can

working on the first trunch and I can say this nobody should get offended like

say this nobody should get offended like the Palunteers, the Androls, the

the Palunteers, the Androls, the Microsoft, the Googles, the Kabinis, the

Microsoft, the Googles, the Kabinis, the Seir Nevada. Like what if we just said,

Seir Nevada. Like what if we just said, hey, it should sort of work on a tablet.

hey, it should sort of work on a tablet. Figure out the rest of it so it doesn't

Figure out the rest of it so it doesn't suck. And we just let them sort of work

suck. And we just let them sort of work together. Like literally sit at a table

together. Like literally sit at a table and go like here's what it should look

and go like here's what it should look like. Here's how we should work. It

like. Here's how we should work. It should be as easy as we give it to you.

should be as easy as we give it to you. It's on an iPhone. You figure it out. If

It's on an iPhone. You figure it out. If it if it's something doesn't work, you

it if it's something doesn't work, you tell us and we'll fix it. What if we

tell us and we'll fix it. What if we just did that instead of this whole

just did that instead of this whole [ __ ] process that takes seven years

[ __ ] process that takes seven years and you are like out of the service by

and you are like out of the service by the time we give it to you. It's almost

the time we give it to you. It's almost like how uh the Hellfire or the drones

like how uh the Hellfire or the drones where it's like, "Hey, just give them to

where it's like, "Hey, just give them to a give them an Xbox controller and then

a give them an Xbox controller and then these kids know how to do it." Exactly.

these kids know how to do it." Exactly. Like there's a reason that companies

Like there's a reason that companies design the way they do for our everyday

design the way they do for our everyday lives. Um what if we just did that? So

lives. Um what if we just did that? So we did. So we we put some of these guys

we did. So we we put some of these guys on contract. We said, "Get around the

on contract. We said, "Get around the table, figure it out." Four months

table, figure it out." Four months later, they came up with the first

later, they came up with the first prototype. We took it to NTC. We gave it

prototype. We took it to NTC. We gave it to an armor formation. So we gave it to

to an armor formation. So we gave it to a bunch of tankers. We gave it to a

a bunch of tankers. We gave it to a striker unit and we said, "Does it

striker unit and we said, "Does it work?" And they went, "This is way

work?" And they went, "This is way better than anything." Because they

better than anything." Because they could see themselves, they could see the

could see themselves, they could see the enemy, they could task each other, they

enemy, they could task each other, they could talk to each other. And it was

could talk to each other. And it was super simple. So we told them, "Hey,

super simple. So we told them, "Hey, like don't watch PR porn all the time.

like don't watch PR porn all the time. Like that chews up all your bandwidth."

Like that chews up all your bandwidth." And we know we all like watching the

And we know we all like watching the strikes, but like like don't do that.

strikes, but like like don't do that. Yeah. And they went, "Okay." Um, they

Yeah. And they went, "Okay." Um, they had the option to. Yeah. Like you, oh,

had the option to. Yeah. Like you, oh, that'd be a hard one not to. Like the

that'd be a hard one not to. Like the bad habits of Gwatt. You're always

bad habits of Gwatt. You're always You're always pulling in. Like you could

You're always pulling in. Like you could see you had access so you watched it.

see you had access so you watched it. Full motion video. Like,

Full motion video. Like, oh, they're going buzzer on. They're

oh, they're going buzzer on. They're going buzzer on.

going buzzer on. Yeah. So, so we said like, "Hey, what if

Yeah. So, so we said like, "Hey, what if we were just somebody's hugging all the

we were just somebody's hugging all the bandwidth?" What happened to my frame

bandwidth?" What happened to my frame rate? Like, what are those three guys

rate? Like, what are those three guys doing over there? Is there a goat? Um,

doing over there? Is there a goat? Um, so has the same story in Jurassic Park?

so has the same story in Jurassic Park? What's going to happen to the goat?

What's going to happen to the goat? Um, oh no, no, no. Um, so, so and then

Um, oh no, no, no. Um, so, so and then what if we like said, "Hey, there's

what if we like said, "Hey, there's Starlink antennas and Star Shield

Starlink antennas and Star Shield antennas. We give you bandwidth." So, we

antennas. We give you bandwidth." So, we let them on that for a year and that is

let them on that for a year and that is going to replace all of our command and

going to replace all of our command and control systems. So all of the the like

control systems. So all of the the like the fire systems, which we've had those

the fire systems, which we've had those for 30 years. It's really good at what

for 30 years. It's really good at what it does. What if it was just like

it does. What if it was just like there's a target and I want to strike

there's a target and I want to strike it. What are my options? Or what if AI

it. What are my options? Or what if AI was like, "Hey, there's a target. You

was like, "Hey, there's a target. You can strike it. Here are your options.

can strike it. Here are your options. Here's the best one." It's the AI saying

Here's the best one." It's the AI saying and here's the best way to fire at it.

and here's the best way to fire at it. Yeah. And and so you don't go like

Yeah. And and so you don't go like Winchester on everything. Yeah. But just

Winchester on everything. Yeah. But just to describe what the old fire system

to describe what the old fire system was, it's standalone boxes, standalone

was, it's standalone boxes, standalone computer boxes with its own satellite

computer boxes with its own satellite trailer with, you know, it's every

trailer with, you know, it's every single thing we have is a standalone

single thing we have is a standalone system that requires men, maintenance,

system that requires men, maintenance, the whole thing. And now it's what if

the whole thing. And now it's what if what if every app on your iPhone, I had

what if every app on your iPhone, I had to give you a new iPhone. Like that's

to give you a new iPhone. Like that's the thing. You had to have carry like 17

the thing. You had to have carry like 17 different iPhones just to like function

different iPhones just to like function in life. I love the AI process of it

in life. I love the AI process of it because then it is no different than

because then it is no different than chess AI. It's like, hey, here's the the

chess AI. It's like, hey, here's the the greatest move that you can do. Here's

greatest move that you can do. Here's the second best. Here's the third best.

the second best. Here's the third best. It's doing that for you. But there still

It's doing that for you. But there still needs to be that human touch to it to be

needs to be that human touch to it to be like, "Hey, okay, let's do this one."

like, "Hey, okay, let's do this one." And and it's not magic, right? So like

And and it's not magic, right? So like there's like we have had some of the

there's like we have had some of the best technologists in the world because

best technologists in the world because when we first tried this, so that that

when we first tried this, so that that process is called weaponering. Um, it's

process is called weaponering. Um, it's like how do you match the thing that you

like how do you match the thing that you want to kill with the thing that can

want to kill with the thing that can kill it? Um, the easiest answer for AI

kill it? Um, the easiest answer for AI up front was like everything gets a

up front was like everything gets a tomahawk. Like tomahawk like you'll

tomahawk. Like tomahawk like you'll definitely kill it with a tomahawk. Like

definitely kill it with a tomahawk. Like one tomahawk, one tank tomahawk. Well,

one tomahawk, one tank tomahawk. Well, once you develop the meta,

once you develop the meta, it's like if it ain't broke, don't fix

it's like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And well, then we were like, hey,

it. And well, then we were like, hey, 100% results. What if we didn't have

100% results. What if we didn't have infinite tomahawks? Like what if the

infinite tomahawks? Like what if the game shark wasn't on?

game shark wasn't on? I just hellfire.

I just hellfire. Going to hellfire. I pictured that

Going to hellfire. I pictured that [ __ ] meme video of like the nose of

[ __ ] meme video of like the nose of the aircraft going

the aircraft going [Laughter]

[Laughter] and they're like oh no more tomahawks

and they're like oh no more tomahawks SM3. It's like what if we didn't have

SM3. It's like what if we didn't have the So it's like how do we train these

the So it's like how do we train these things so that they actually do the

things so that they actually do the things that are useful. So if the so you

things that are useful. So if the so you actually have what's useful in a fight.

actually have what's useful in a fight. Um cuz not everything's going to get

Um cuz not everything's going to get like tomahawks, not everything's going

like tomahawks, not everything's going to get a B2 strike. So it's it's

to get a B2 strike. So it's it's trending and then some stuff should lots

trending and then some stuff should lots of things like we're just going to glass

of things like we're just going to glass it.

it. Speaking of that's that's one of my my

That's one of my personal favorite upgrades in this administration is the

upgrades in this administration is the fact that the the president of the

fact that the the president of the United States will post on social media

United States will post on social media just through the official White House

just through the official White House account flat out just thermal war porn.

account flat out just thermal war porn. Bro, that was the most wild thing to

Bro, that was the most wild thing to see. It happened again.

see. It happened again. I didn't see that, dude. Oh, yeah. He

I didn't see that, dude. Oh, yeah. He basically just like, "Oh, these are 10

basically just like, "Oh, these are 10 Somali that were a problem and now

Somali that were a problem and now they're not." Dude, we send that the

they're not." Dude, we send that the group test cuz it's like, yo. And then

group test cuz it's like, yo. And then you check where it comes from and you're

you check where it comes from and you're like, that's a

like, that's a now soldiers don't need to pull that in

now soldiers don't need to pull that in from the internal network. They could

from the internal network. They could just go to Twitter or True Social and go

just go to Twitter or True Social and go find it. Yeah, that's a valid target.

find it. Yeah, that's a valid target. But but like like

But but like like how do we recover from this?

how do we recover from this? The AI stuff though is just there's one

The AI stuff though is just there's one more level on on the targeting because

more level on on the targeting because like what we're seeing there's a little

like what we're seeing there's a little bumper sticking out of out of a thing

bumper sticking out of out of a thing and and so human eye drone footage you

and and so human eye drone footage you might not pick that up but AI is like no

might not pick that up but AI is like no that bumper is an enemy bumper like like

that bumper is an enemy bumper like like two two of the exact same thing. They

two two of the exact same thing. They could be Hiluxes. They could be BTRs.

could be Hiluxes. They could be BTRs. They could be whatever. But what if like

They could be whatever. But what if like what if I was just like now my AI can

what if I was just like now my AI can go, hey, that's the one you were

go, hey, that's the one you were tracking like that specific dent in that

tracking like that specific dent in that specific place. That's the one that we

specific place. That's the one that we were looking at before. This is the same

were looking at before. This is the same target. We can track it all the way

target. We can track it all the way through. Dude, people we were we talked

through. Dude, people we were we talked about the other day with the chess AI

about the other day with the chess AI and how it can develop. Someone got

and how it can develop. Someone got caught cheating in an AI tournament at a

caught cheating in an AI tournament at a low level and they're like, "Oh, they

low level and they're like, "Oh, they didn't cheat." And then was it who was

didn't cheat." And then was it who was it? Looo. It was loop. Loop. And it was

it? Looo. It was loop. Loop. And it was like which means wolf in Italian. Does

like which means wolf in Italian. Does it? Yeah. I just retired a guy named Pet

it? Yeah. I just retired a guy named Pet Loopo. Oh, I did not even know that.

Loopo. Oh, I did not even know that. Just so you know. No, it's both. Yep.

Just so you know. No, it's both. Yep. Now you do. But cheating on a like chess

Now you do. But cheating on a like chess is the easiest thing to catch. And when

is the easiest thing to catch. And when a dude is the AI will give you every

a dude is the AI will give you every strongest move and then if somebody else

strongest move and then if somebody else does a dumb move then it's like oh well

does a dumb move then it's like oh well here's the next best move for that. It's

here's the next best move for that. It's calculating everything as you said at

calculating everything as you said at this level of a degree. So that's where

this level of a degree. So that's where human error is not going to catch that,

human error is not going to catch that, but AI 100% is going to catch that and

but AI 100% is going to catch that and faster and and yeah, and it's a it's a

faster and and yeah, and it's a it's a scale thing, right? So everybody AI is

scale thing, right? So everybody AI is like a buzz word. Everybody loves it and

like a buzz word. Everybody loves it and and we use it all the time. Like I don't

and we use it all the time. Like I don't I used to know how the algorithms for

I used to know how the algorithms for ways work and I just stopped caring

ways work and I just stopped caring because it works enough for me. But

because it works enough for me. But that's that's a version of AI. Um it's

that's that's a version of AI. Um it's terrifying. It it is. But yeah, it's

terrifying. It it is. But yeah, it's like Skynet's on the way. And I'm like I

like Skynet's on the way. And I'm like I for one welcome our glorious robot

for one welcome our glorious robot overlords. Please don't kill me first.

overlords. Please don't kill me first. Um I definitely also welcome the

Um I definitely also welcome the American version more than the Chinese

American version more than the Chinese one. Yeah, totally. And if we don't

one. Yeah, totally. And if we don't People act like if we don't do it, then

People act like if we don't do it, then nobody else will. They're absolutely

nobody else will. They're absolutely not. Like the social credit score is a

not. Like the social credit score is a real thing. Like that is all facial

real thing. Like that is all facial recognition tied to like your

recognition tied to like your personality. I'm safe. My eyes.

personality. I'm safe. My eyes. I am not. Wait, how do you get your

I am not. Wait, how do you get your score up? I'm just asking. Just want to

score up? I'm just asking. Just want to if you have literally social media.

if you have literally social media. Social media is how you get your credit

Social media is how you get your credit score. Social media score. What is it?

score. Social media score. What is it? Social social credit score. Yeah, we'd

Social social credit score. Yeah, we'd be good. I think that kind of

social good of a citizen you are on the sidewalk.

No, we were we were definitely all going to the goolog. I'm going to find the

to the goolog. I'm going to find the best rock. If you've ever uh if you've

best rock. If you've ever uh if you've ever compared glorious leader to uh

ever compared glorious leader to uh Winnie the Pooh, you [ __ ]

Winnie the Pooh, you [ __ ] glorious.

Okay. Okay. Well, AI conversation's done.

done. I actually think you guys have to start

I actually think you guys have to start getting Yeah. on this one. So, actually

getting Yeah. on this one. So, actually get this wrapped up. Uh, we'll have

get this wrapped up. Uh, we'll have First off, where do we find Well, Army

First off, where do we find Well, Army Army or where do we find Where do we

Army or where do we find Where do we find the Pentagon? Go Army.com. Yep.

find the Pentagon? Go Army.com. Yep. That's the best army spokesman. I'm

That's the best army spokesman. I'm like, what's our website? Go. Best army

like, what's our website? Go. Best army spokesman. Go army.com. Go army.com.

spokesman. Go army.com. Go army.com. Anything else you guys want to say while

Anything else you guys want to say while we we still have you here?

we we still have you here? Um, thanks for having us on. Honestly,

Um, thanks for having us on. Honestly, uh, what you guys do is, uh, unique and

uh, what you guys do is, uh, unique and it's certainly important. Um, you like

it's certainly important. Um, you like it's just a group of dudes that sit

it's just a group of dudes that sit around table and BS like any of us

around table and BS like any of us could, but then you stumble on some

could, but then you stumble on some really important things and so like you

really important things and so like you did in Buffalo and and uh, things like

did in Buffalo and and uh, things like having us on, we really really

having us on, we really really appreciate that. And I I mean it from

appreciate that. And I I mean it from the bottom my heart and from the

the bottom my heart and from the secretary and chief. Uh thanks.

secretary and chief. Uh thanks. Appreciate you guys a lot. Thank you

Appreciate you guys a lot. Thank you guys. Appreciate that. Can I can I be

guys. Appreciate that. Can I can I be like a zealot for the army for a second?

like a zealot for the army for a second? Go for it.

Go for it. Um the I I want to reiterate like we

Um the I I want to reiterate like we have a badass army. Like we do

have a badass army. Like we do everything everywhere every day on every

everything everywhere every day on every continent. Like people don't understand

continent. Like people don't understand the global response force for the world

the global response force for the world is 18th Airborne Corps. The immediate

is 18th Airborne Corps. The immediate response force for the world is 82nd

response force for the world is 82nd Airborne Division. The Homeland Defense

Airborne Division. The Homeland Defense Brigade under 10th Mountain is under

Brigade under 10th Mountain is under fourth ID is second brigade. We are the

fourth ID is second brigade. We are the core of engineers. National Guard does

core of engineers. National Guard does all of the humanitarian assistance. Like

all of the humanitarian assistance. Like your army is responsible for literally

your army is responsible for literally everything every day, every mission

everything every day, every mission around the world. And that's like that

around the world. And that's like that is why it's certainly why I get up every

is why it's certainly why I get up every day and go to work. It's I know it's the

day and go to work. It's I know it's the same for Dave. I know it's the same for

same for Dave. I know it's the same for General George. I know it's the same for

General George. I know it's the same for Secretary Driscoll. Um, but as we think

Secretary Driscoll. Um, but as we think through what the future of the army is,

through what the future of the army is, we are literally thinking every mission,

we are literally thinking every mission, every day, every hour, every continent.

every day, every hour, every continent. And I'm Thank you guys for letting us

And I'm Thank you guys for letting us have a platform and sharing it with you.

have a platform and sharing it with you. Yeah, we appreciate it. Thanks for

Yeah, we appreciate it. Thanks for making the trip, guys. You guys are

making the trip, guys. You guys are here. Cody, what do your job? Bye,

here. Cody, what do your job? Bye, everyone. Thank you for coming to the

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