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This content advocates for the ketogenic diet, particularly emphasizing its role in reversing chronic diseases and improving overall health by reducing high insulin levels and promoting ketone production.

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Welcome to the sardine challenge. So,

the only thing on the menu for the next

3 days is sardines. I challenge you to

try and eat three of those cans in a day

because that's a hell of a tool to

[music] help you get into a ketogenic

state. And when you're in a ketogenic

state, it helps burn fat, muscle mass

[music] gets higher, preserved. I've

seen patients that have reversed their

gray hair and that brain performance,

concentration, and energy. All of those

things improve. And so, I'm going to

teach you how to do an advanced

ketogenic diet.

>> Sorry, the sardine juice has gone on my

iPad. Good luck getting that off.

>> Dr. Annette Bosworth is the insulin

resistance specialist.

>> With over two decades of experience,

she's discovered that the key to your

health isn't [music] more treatments.

>> It's to get into a ketogenic state.

>> Most people have been making buckets of

insulin without knowing it. But when you

have excess insulin, it's a chronic

disease maker. It is what makes high

blood pressure. It is what makes cancer.

It is what makes debris in the brain,

which is linked to depression, brain

fog, Alzheimer's, and Parkinson's. And

so to reverse the high insulin state, I

really push my patients to do the

ketogenic diet. And what unfolds is your

best life ahead within a year. Like I

really rescued my mom from the edge of death.

death.

>> So where do I start?

>> First thing is quit eating so late at

night because you're stimulating an

excessive [music] production of insulin.

The next thing keep the carbs low, put

the fat up, more eggs, beef, brisket,

ribs, pork belly.

>> But then people often say when you talk

about the ketogenic diet that it's not

sustainable. So you have this idea of

this keto continuum consistently. Keto

for life.

>> Yeah. I mean, I've been on a ketogenic

diet for 10 years, and there's 12 steps

for it, and you're not going to have to

try very hard. So, the first step is

>> I see messages all the time in the

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thank you so much because in a strange

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and you're on this journey with us and I

appreciate you for that. So yeah thank you

you [music]

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Dr. Annette Bosworth or should I call

you Dr. Bos.

What is it that you know and believe and

understand that you think the general

public doesn't know believe and understand?

understand?

that most of the reasons people come to

see me could be reversed if they knew

how to make ketones on a regular basis.

So, I'm an internist. Uh that means uh

if you go to an internal medicine doctor

and we don't know what's wrong, you're

going to die. We take care of tough

puzzles and we do this over long

management, chronic disease management.

So, I've got 25 years of studying

chronic problems that deteriorate the

quality of life. Lifespan, health span,

both go in the toilet when you're

chronically seeing me. And you could

abort all of that destiny if routinely

you were making ketones.

>> An internist sounds like an intern. I'm

trying to understand

the marketing on this is terrible. It

just means you're supposed to take care

of very complex answers. Your job I mean

the buck stops with you. If if the

internal medicine team can't figure it

out, you're going to die.

>> So So you're basically a chronic illness doctor.

doctor.

>> Chronic disease management is absolutely

it. You know, I love the way uh Peter

Aia uses medicine 2.0, which is what we

are the masters of managing it, making

sure the prescriptions are there, making

sure you are treating all these

problems. The internist being one of

your best buddies cuz you're having to

see them routinely. You got to get the

meds refilled. You got to check for the

side effects. It's a mill.

>> What is medicine 2.0 in your definition?

Yeah. So, I can keep you from dying from

childbirth and infections. And I have an

antidote for every one of your symptoms.

We are in a world where medicine has

answered a lot of problems. Little

things like high blood pressure. Little

things like it's a few extra pounds

around the middle. Little things like

brain fog. Oh, my eyes are aging. All of

these are signals that your body has

made more trash than it cleaned up. And

there were some rules to humans that you

missed. And for for my listeners that

have clicked on this conversation,

what are they going to get out of giving

us their time and staying with us and

listening to this? What is the end goal

going to be for them in their lives?

>> Listening to the way I talk to my

patients and teach them the steps how to

reverse the medical problems that you've

already got on the roster. And by doing

that, the freedom is to be the kind of

grandparent that you dreamt of, but

you've surrendered can't be there anymore.

anymore.

And what is the list of predicaments or

illnesses that

>> yeah are relevant here?

>> Most common one is being overweight and

a brain that's not working right. What

really is behind all of the patients

I've seen for 25 years is we're working

on peak brain performance. Even if you

don't think about that, that's what I

think about. So when you come in and

you're 55 years old and I can see the

worry of Parkinson's headed your way,

super young is 55 years old with

Parkinson's. That is a brain that's got

too much trash and you don't know it

yet. And I mean in the history of Dr.

Bos versus Parkinson's, Parkinson's has

like 3,500 patients. I have zero.

Parkinson's wins every time. And the the

biggest moment of people who have

chronic problems under the hood is they

have no idea that it's coming. And once

that lands, the reversal is much worse.

seeing it 10 years before it's supposed

to be there. This is a gift of saying,

"Let me show you how to undo that. Back

away from the edge." It's that brain

function that you're going to miss the

most when it doesn't work. And it's

linked to all of these things like the

arthritis, the, you know, weight around

the middle, the high blood pressure, the

severe uh connection to mental

uh approach, meaning you can say

depression, but people say, "Oh, I don't

have that diagnosis." I'm talking about

a brain that doesn't want to engage,

that doesn't find joy in their life

anymore because it's been too many years

since they took out the trash. Let me

show you how to take out the trash. And

you're going to have to do it a few

times, but what unfolds is your best

life ahead within a year.

>> So, you're going to teach me how to take

out the trash. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> The trash in my own brain. >> Yep.

>> Yep.

>> And if I take out the trash in my own

brain, how is my life going to be

better? You live in the 21st century

where there's lots of processed foods

and lots of ways that your body did

things without telling you. So any

injury that you've had, like a joint

injury that keeps coming back every time

you injure it, it it is a little easier

to injure the next time. Is there a ring

around the middle that's more more than

pinch an inch? Is there a uh distance in

time where you say, "I can focus for

this many hours, but I can't do it for

this many hours anymore." Those are all

places where if you did this, if you

were able to say, "Don't stop taking out

the trash." Several times a year,

several times a month, if you ask me,

then you never have to come into this

world that I just see people, they're

they're in quicksand. They're up to

their waist and getting them out. They

need a real lifeline. And what are the

current solutions people are typically

offered when they're feeling, you know,

all the the ways that you described

there where they just don't feel good,

they have brain fog, they're they might

have chronic pain setting in in various

ways. What are the typical solutions

that medicine 2.0 would offer them?

>> Yeah, especially if they have good insurance.

insurance. >> Yeah,

>> Yeah,

>> that doctor is going to be with the

covered insurance plan and he's going to

say, "Tell me the symptoms. I have a

matching game. I will give you the drugs

that will take away that one and take

away that one and take away that one."

What is always a downside is well play

that forward for 10 years. Play it

forward for five years and are the

symptoms gone? No. But it will bridge

and hold up the architecture of the body

and the human without actually fixing

the problem, without actually diving in

and say you got some chemistry problems

under the hood that you don't measure

and you don't talk about. But if you

did, even if you're not perfect, even if

you're 70%,

you're going to find yourself at the age

of 54 with vitality and energy and

sleeping through the night and not

having what every other 54year-old,

which is chronic joint pain, a brain

that can only focus for 3 to four hours

without a break. Uh, a stamina of

endurance and health and and joy that

falls apart.

>> So, when I'm You're 54 years old. When

I'm 54 years old, I want to be as

young and energetic and articulate and

cognitively astute as you are. So, what

should I be doing now to make sure that

I don't decline decay in all those areas

I described?

>> Well, what did you have for breakfast >> today?

>> today? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, I have not eaten breakfast yet.

>> It's okay. That's not a bad thing. But,

uh, when you're 54, you should probably

put the calories in the morning, not at night.

night.

We know that as you age, the cost of a

calorie turns into timing. If you eat

that food, one bite of food after 6:00

is worth 10 bites of food before noon.

So, if you're trying to say, "How do I

get the best out of the nourishment, but

also eating's fun?" If you only get one

bite after 6:00 and 10 before, move that

food towards morning. When you're your

age, uh, what did you have for what's

the last meal you ate >> yesterday?

>> yesterday? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Uh, for dinner, I had this cod and I had

salad. I also had pasta. >> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> But I ate pretty late, which is

>> What did you have the rest of the day

before that? Was that your first salad?

>> Just a big salad.

>> Was that more towards lunch or noon or

>> probably about 4:00?

>> So, waited all the way till 4:00 to eat.

Very common. This is a really common

pattern of people doing what we would

say intermittent or timerestricted

eating. They put that eating window in

this, but it's got that balloon at the

end of the day. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> And it really does I mean what you're

stimulating is an excessive production

of insulin

>> and you're going to wake up the next

morning. What time did you wake up this morning?

morning? >> Today

>> Today

>> I went to bed fairly relatively early

for me. I woke up at about 7:30 a.m. Oh.

>> Usually it's later. And do you have did

you have a solid seven eight hours of

sleep or how? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> So during that time uh you finished

eating around 10 o'clock then it sounds like

like >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. So then it's 7

>> bit later.

>> Okay. So 11:00 and you've got uh 7 7:30

in the morning is when you woke up. So

that's about 8 hours since you've eaten.

Your insulin is still churning

especially if the meal was large and

there was carbs in it. So now you've got

these processed foods late at night and

you're at the beginning of the disease,

right? you're at the beginning of the

chronic inflammatory churn of how do you

age faster and faster? You don't do

that. You don't have high insulin

throughout the night.

>> So, can you explain to me like I'm a

12-year-old what insulin is and the role

it's playing because you know I guess

we're focused here on how to I guess

longevity aging. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> For a second, but how does insulin play

a role in all of this and what is insulin?

insulin?

>> So, insulin insulates. Okay. So, think

of it as it makes you fluffy. It makes

you it puts the fat on. Uh it's got some

other roles too, but we're going to talk

about chronic diseases here where it's

not a scarcity problem. You you make

plenty of it. And when it's in excess,

it will store energy for when you go

through a famine. It will also cause you

to grow. Now, grow means get a little

fatter, but it also means things like

their skin gets a little thicker. They

have skin tags. And what I always think

about is what's going on in their brain.

And when that insulin is high for years

and years and years, uh, just like

yours, because if if you didn't eat the

rest of today and then you got up

tomorrow morning, it would be about that

long after a late meal last night,

that's how long it would take you to

say, "Okay, we're back down to where we

started from or where we should be in

the morning."

>> For someone that's never heard the word

insulin before, there's some context to

give on in terms of what it's doing. So

it's coming out like a transporter in

helping put away the sugar or deal with

the excess sugar.

>> Right. So it is what lifts Yeah. It

lifts glucose or sugar from the

circulation into a cell. That's its

first primary job.

>> But if all the cells are full, their

storage is full, it's going to start to

pack it into the liver. I mean, let's

say all those stores are full too. This

job uh of the of insulin, this hormone

oozes into every part of your body to

say make sure it's got f fuel. Make sure

it's got that sugar. But most people are

like what I would guess you are. Most of

the time you don't you aren't a shortage

of sugar. And so it feel it tops things

off and then it will turn things into

fat. It's too much sugar. They can't

store it. All the storage is full. So

you can send the signal out. Make me

some more cells. I need some more

storage units. This guy's eating more

than he thinks he is. And we're going to

be prepared to live through the famine.

But in the meantime, turn it into fat.

make him a little fluffier.

>> Is that the only consequence of high

insulin is that I'm gonna I might be a

bit more fat.

>> No, that's just the one people hear

about the most. When you look at chronic

disease management, it is the growth of

of the diseases of the inflammation.

It's the making of the trash. So, I keep

saying, you know, you you need to take

the trash out routinely, which means

that insulin, which has been smoldering

higher than you think it is because you

live in today's world, because you eat

processed food, because you eat super

late at night, uh you don't go two to

three days without eating. You've you've

got storage filled in your body. The

high insulin levels in a healthy person

hides that the debris is being made and

you don't know it.

>> It hides it.

>> Yeah. It's going to put it in between

two cells in your brain. It's going to

go in between the skin cells. The trash

doesn't get taken out until the insulin

gets lower. And unfortunately, most

people have been making buckets of

insulin without [clears throat] knowing it.

it.

>> Why? What are they doing to create

buckets of insulin? all the things you

said about

>> carbs, um um foods that comes from boxes

and barcodes and uh bags instead of

whole foods instead of a fatforward

diet, which would then push that body

into making ketones. So, you can't you

cannot make a ketone if your insulin's high.

high.

>> Are there any signs that I might have

high levels of insulin or insulin

resistance? Abdominal girth is the first

thing that is the first place that the

fat goes. So you do this really great

part where you don't eat until later in

the day.

>> How does that feel during the day?

>> During the day I feel really focused. I

actually don't even know that I'm not eating.

eating.

>> So that's really good. So what I would

love to know is show me what your blood

sugars are doing during the day and show

me if you make ketones. That'll be the

answer is you when you have excess

insulin which is this chronic disease

maker. Uh it is what makes cancer. It is

what makes high blood pressure. It is

what makes debris in the brain where

call it depression or brain fog or

Parkinson's. It's the aging of the brain.

brain.

>> It's linked to all of those things.

>> All of those things. And that excess

insulin nobody tells you about. But the

symptoms are, dang, I feel like I got to

eat every two to three hours. Uh their

debris uh or their fuel keeps running

out. When you say, boy, I can eat uh

once at the end of the day and I'm

pretty good. My focus stays really good.

What I want you to prove is what are

your ketones during the day. So when

when you've got a patient who has done

that, their ketones will be 7 1.0

and they're taking out the trash all day long.

long.

>> So there's these two energy sources. One

of them is the glucose. One of them's

which is from like you know eating pasta

which I ate last night. Um so that

probably put a lot of glucose in my my

blood. I probably had a high glucose

spike and then insulin came out to deal

with that. And then there's ketones,

which start to appear when I'm fasting

or when I haven't been eating carbs for

a while and my body's looking for an

energy source.

>> Yeah. When

>> in terms of these two energy sources,

>> there seems to be a lot of hype around ketones.

ketones. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm.

>> So, why doesn't our body just run off ketones?

ketones?

>> It will as soon as you're done lowering

your insulin. And I mean, insulin grew

in these patients. They didn't know that

it was growing high. They went to their

blood test and their glucose looked

normal. What nobody checked for years is

how much of that insulating hormone did

it take to keep the glucose controlled.

And that's where chronic diseases are

are grown in spades. That's where

autoimmune disorder

>> the insulating hormone being insulin.

>> Yes. Okay.

>> So that excess insulin for the last

decade had you come into my clinic.

We'll put a label on it. Call it PCOS.

Call it uh high blood pressure. Call it

um autoimmune problems. All of them are

linked to high insulin. Glucose, when

you want to store it, we put it in a

fancy string called glycogen. And it's

just an efficient way to store glucose,

but as soon as your body needs it, it

will unlock all that sugar back into

your access back for you. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm.

>> What you don't realize is, well, how

much glycogen you got stored over there?

How much is there in storage? And that

is what high insulin has been doing.

Just put it in storage. Put it in

storage. And then when you stop eating,

you'll know if you emptied out all your

stored sugar, which is some of the

regular sugar you just ate, but then all

this glycogen, this packaged sugar. How

empty are you? I don't know. Have you

made a ketone yet? You cannot make a

ketone. You cannot burn fat until that

that tank is empty.

>> Okay. So, I have these glycogen stores

which last for what, a day or two?

>> Oh, no. Think of it as brown sugar. So

you package the sugar really tight and

then you put it in the back of the

drawer and it turned crusty because you

never lowered your insulin. I have

patients that are over overweight and we

put them on a ketogenic we put them on a

20 total carbohydrates per day. So super

low carbohydrate. It is 15 days before

they make a ketone.

>> Okay? So it's it could be a a one it

could be up to two weeks for example

before my glycogen stores are empty. And

it's not until my glycogen stores my

glucose stores are empty that my body

can start producing ketones.

>> Correct. So, it's going to exhaust all

of those glycogen stores and then once

it's ran out, it's going to switch into

this ketogenic state,

>> right? Yeah. So, think of it as your

shortterm easy to access sugar has to

decrease and that means your insulin has

decreased. That hormone for insulate.

They both run in tangents. You decre

you're emptying glycogen, your insulin's

going down.

>> So, how do I know if I have insulin

resistance? What what are the key signs?

You mentioned skin tags. I've never

heard that term before. Yeah, skin tags

are not moles. So moles, you can feel

this bump on your on your skin, right?

>> But a skin tag has a neck and like a

little mushroom.

>> And it's the most annoying thing when

patients come and say, "Well, I just

tried to cut them all off, but they kept

bleeding." I'm like, "Do not cut them

off." They'll fall off when your

insulin's lower. So that's the first

place. It'll be found in their armpits

or places where their skin rubs. So

armpits and they're growing. And once

insulin starts to grow them, it's like a

crop. a crop of little baby cauliflower

hanging out in their armpits.

>> You talked about velvety skin. >> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> As well being an indicator.

>> Velvety skin is this Latin word

aanthosis nigraans which is fancy word

that means the skin is darker and

thicker. So the the places that usually

happens is the back of the neck. And

you'll hear you know stories of I tried

to wash my neck. It's it's dirty all the

time. It's not dirt. It is the way the

skin is under the the curse of high

insulin. And you see it in teenagers all

the time now. They put on weight and

their growth hormones are already doing

that teenage thing. Now you put high

insulin in there and they have this

dirty neck syndrome or on the creases of

their elbow. It's just darker here. Uh

that is pathology that's not normal from

high insulin.

>> You talked about weight changes as well.

What's this thing about hairy toes that

I was reading about?

>> Right. So, as my patients age, so most

my 55year-olds that have had high

insulin, I will tell them, "Look at your

toes. They're supposed to have hair on

them." And when your body has had that

high insulin state for a couple of

decades now, it will start to say, "We

don't send resources to a couple parts

of the body anymore." And the follicles

in their toe are one of them. Like, just

stop growing hair on your toes. And

there's an ascending problem with this

where the toe starts, then it's the

ankles, then it's up to the knees. and

they don't have hair anywhere on their

lower extremities. It is a process

that started from high insulin.

>> What about aging? You talked about how

if you have high insulin, there'll be an

impact on your aging. Now, I'm thinking

about, you know, I'm getting a couple

gray hairs now. I'm thinking, [laughter]

this is because of my insulin levels. I

>> I have seen patients that have reversed

their gray hair on a ketogenic diet. It

blew my mind. They asked me for the

reason why that happened, and I thought,

well, um the cells are healthier that

are making your hair. That's all I got.

Um, aging is exactly that enemy, which

is they are going around the sun with

more growing of the trash than they

needed. So that high insulin, they don't

know about it. They've not produced a

ketone in years. And that chronic

disease is now difficult to get their

the eye to clean out. It's difficult to

get that brain trash removed. And you're

supposed to do it every night when you

sleep. is not supposed to be behind this

far. You're two decades from taking out

the trash in your brain. That's aging.

>> How do I for a start even know my ketone

blood levels?

>> Well, when when a patient first comes in

saying, "How do I begin?" I want them to

tell me what they had for their meal and

then say, "How many carbs do you think

that was?" Because this education like

an apple is 20 gram of carbs, 15 grams

of carbs for some of them. And we're

going to ask you in the first six weeks

to take your carb intake down to less

than 20. 20 total grams of carbohydrates

or less is where we begin. And again, I

do this in a medical grade. There are

people who play with a ketogenic diet

and there's people who try to reverse

medical problems with a ketogenic diet.

>> In order to do this, it is not a lazy

kind of keto. You have to actually be on

the same team as me using data to

reverse this medical problem.

>> And how how does one measure their blood

ketone levels? Yeah, I I think blood is

the best. There is a way you can measure

them in a in urine. The burning of fat

if you turn that string of fat into

ketones, there are two destinies for

that. You either put it into a

mitochondria and turn it into energy or

you pee it out. So, especially when

they're early in a ketogenic journey,

they're they overshoot. Evolution said,

"Don't let them die. Turn that fat into

energy. Help them through the famine."

So the excess ketones they make end up

in their urine. We call them ketone

strips and they're cheap and easy and we

don't have to cross that barrier of

somebody pricking their finger at the

beginning. So they're going to pee out

ketones every day

as long as they're not chronic insulin resistant.

resistant.

>> So if I avoid carbs for a sustained

period of time, which could be a couple

of days, it could be up to two weeks,

eventually my body's going to say,

"Listen, we need energy." So it's going

to start burning my fat stores. Yes,

>> you know, from some of that fat around

the midsection, and it's going to start

turning that into ketones, which are a

different type of energy. Are there any

reasons why ketone as a source of energy

is better for me in terms of performance

other than the insulin reasons that

we've talked about? Like, are there any

other parts of my body or my health that

benefit [snorts]

>> ketones? For starters, when you're

burning a ketone, there's less trash.

Okay? It is a cleaner uh fuel with less

byproduct especially as you age. So you

get the longer energy and you have less

debris floating around. You hear the

word antioxidants all the time. Well,

burning ketones is an antioxidant state.

It is a and it's in the space where you

need it, which is inside that cell. Uh

you swallow antioxidants and you have no

guarantee that they end up where they're

supposed to. So number one, the fuel is

reducing trash at a cellular level. It

lasts longer and it penetrates through

that bloodb brain barrier to fuel a

brain that even if it's insulin

resistant, it can use a ketone. So the

problem with somebody who's chronic

insulin resistance, their brain needs a

lot of glucose to stay on online.

and I can try to get it there, but

insulin is constantly fighting that.

It's a war to try and keep the glucose

in their brain. My hack is ketones will

go right around that. It doesn't need

the same transporters to get across the

bloodb brain barrier and especially to

fuel those cells in the brain. So, for

performance, um I mean, name a game

where you don't use your brain. There

isn't one, right? you're you're gonna if

you're looking at performance to say

let's begin with the sharpest brains and

the most focus, the most discipline, the

less um impulsivity.

All of those things improve when that

brain is being fueled with ketones.

>> So, let's focus on the brain part then.

So, what have you personally noticed as

someone who I assume is in the ketogenic

diet right now? >> Yes.

>> Yes.

>> What have you noticed the variances

between when you're in a keto diet and

when you're not?

>> Right. Well, I've been doing this since

2015. So, um, the onset of it was really

messy, but, uh, the seasons where I

would do a great job and then I would

think, h, I'm fine. Uh, I mean, I can

tell you, you see 25 patients in a day

and I feel bad for the last [laughter]

five. Uh, they've got a they've got a

sluggish brain. I don't care how much

coffee you've got in you, you can't keep

that focus for that length of time. um

when you're in a ketogenic state and not

in a ketogenic state, uh the the the

brain power, the concentration, the

ability to keep your mood controlled is

is just it is a night and day difference

for most people, but I think especially

for me like uh and pretty high energy

and when it runs out, I get crabby. Uh

and that's not a good place to be if

you're the patient. Yeah, I think I've

noticed that as a podcaster, but I've

also heard a lot of very well-known

podcasters say the same thing, which is

the variance in their ability to speak

and articulate themselves and think and

sit here for three to four hours having

a conversation

>> is night and day when they are in a

fasted ketogenic state versus or on a

ketogenic diet versus when they are in a

higher carb diet.

>> And it's so profound to me that I that I

almost wonder why like more people don't

>> Oh, it's it's insane. Like one of the

best things that I've done in 25 years

was I went out on a limb and said, "I'm

going to try and teach 200 people at

once how to do this intense ketogenic

diet for 3 weeks." Uh it is hardcore.

This is not playtime. You're checking

your numbers every day and you're

comparing them to your classmates. And

what you get to see in this class of 200

people going with an extreme ketogenic

diet is the testimony you just said. I

cannot believe how good I feel. By the

end of three weeks, they're naming

babies after me. They [laughter] they

think this is a miracle. And I'm like,

exactly. I mean, when you do it in a

group like that, I don't need to

advertise. They tell their friends. They

tell their like if you want to be on a

ketogenic diet, that really wakes up

your brain that I didn't think I could

do this. I thought I was too old for

this level of energy. And it's there

within 3 weeks of doing it, right? How

long does it typically take on average

for someone to feel those brain benefits

from doing the ketogenic diet?

>> Typically, how long does it take you? >> Me?

>> Me? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> I rarely go out of it. Meaning I I might

have a couple of days where I fly to LA

and have a fancy meal and then I need to

be back on it. It just doesn't feel good anymore.

anymore.

>> So, but let's go let's go to when I was

overweight. Okay. So, you say, who's

insulin resistant? Any person who's had

a baby. Okay. You have to be insulin

resistant to hold that baby for nine

months. Okay, so I had three of them and

then the weight never came off on that

third one. So here is an insulin

resistant person at 40 something years

old and I am probably 60 lbs heavier

than I am now. In the first time it it I

tried to get into a state of ketosis for

like nine months. I was about to give up

on like why can I not pee a ketone? Why

does every I mean I'm a doctor. I'm

trying to use this for my brain

patients, but I'm afraid to tell them

about it cuz I [clears throat]

personally cannot keep pee a ketone. I

mean, I was trying to follow 50 carbs,

then I tried to do 30 carbs, and then I

try to do none. But I just couldn't make

it long enough into that ketogenic

state. And what had happened is at least

a decade of high insulin, three babies,

full practice, busy life, you know, on

call, those kinds of things that are all

dangerous if you're going to try to have

a peak brain.

I took my kids on a um 22-mile hike

around the city uh on Memorial Day in

the name of troops as mental health and

I said if I am not peeing a ketone after

walking 22 miles having fasted for a day

then I'm for sure that this diet is a

hoie. So that's how much energy it took

for me to pee a ketone because I was

very insulin resistant. I had been

making excess insulin for a decade and

I'm a doctor. I I should have known that

my sugars were fine. My hemoglobin A1C

wasn't bad. But that excess insulin,

that stored sugar, that stored glycogen,

it took forever to get that low. And

only after I fasted and then walked 22

miles did I pee a ketone. So I when you

ask the question, how long does it take?

I don't make a I do a much better job

now of telling people how to get there

cuz I I almost gave up thinking this is

junk science. If you if you were to eat

a high carb meal now and take a couple

of days off, how long would it take you

to get back into a ketogenic state where

you have those brain benefits now?

>> Uh I could probably flip back in within

12 hours.

>> So that's how long it roughly takes for

someone who's got a bit in better

metabolic shape. It will take a couple

of days. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm. >> Um

>> Um

is there a downside to living in ketosis

the whole time? Because people often say

when you talk about the ketogenic diet

that it's not sustainable. Yeah, I hear

that a lot, but I have thousands of

patients that have been doing it for

years. And what happens is uh as soon as

they exit from the ketogenic diet and

they start to feel the trash build up

again, meaning the joints that didn't

hurt forever now hurt, the vision that

was super clear is now foggy again. The

brain that wasn't irritable and

depressive is back to doing those things

again. I mean, it is within a week or

two that I mean, I like to think of when

you're in a ketogenic state, you ring

out that inflammation and trash in their

brain and the brain is like crisp. It is

doing a great job. And when you put the

sugar back in, the swelling goes back

into their brain. Insulin and water

flood the body and it's almost like a

minor concussion

and their brain is not working right and

they now know it. And is there any other

benefits to being in a ketogenic state?

You mentioned strength briefly.

>> Yeah. So when you're looking at uh do

you do weightlifting? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. So when you weightlift uh uh how

grade your soreness on the day after

your like lifting day?

>> Um if I've been using that muscle

consistently, there's no real soreness.

>> Good. So uh let's just take a day where

you're pushing it harder. You're

deadlifting harder and you've got a

strain in those muscles. One of the key

components for repairing that as quickly

as possible is to be in a ketogenic

state to take that inflammation way

down. And you probably didn't need the

help of repairing that muscle when you

were, you know, 18, 22. But as you get

into the 30s and especially into the

40s, the amount of inflammation that

tries to help you repair that, it

overshoots. And that's where the chronic

pain's from. That's where the delay in

repair comes from. So, when I look at

power and muscle training, I the first

place I talk to my patients about it is

how many days does it take you to get

back to to feeling good after you've had

an injury? Uh, let's let's be on the

side of a ketogenic setting where your

inflammation is super low and when you

tear something, which you're going to

tear things when you're lifting heavy,

the repair part is so quick. The power

is a little hard to talk about. If you

want me to go there, I can. Uh,

>> yeah. So, is there is there going to be

an impact on my my ability to train? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> If I'm in a ketogenic diet, am I going

to be impacted in terms of endurance or

strength or power or anything like that?

>> So, we looked at this in um in military

people. uh is one of the my favorite

ones where they are all insulin

resistant and we put them on a ketogenic

diet and so they're trying to meet their

standards and at a month of being in a

ketogenic state, they've lost weight,

but their power and time didn't do

anything too sexy. Then you look at

those same soldiers at a year or I think

it was six months was the next time they

did another big check. uh and by golly,

they've lost even more weight and their

power is about 20% more than their

counterparts. When they get to 18 months

of a ketogenic diet, their power is

almost 50% more than what their

counterparts were. So, let me explain

that. As you're looking at a muscle, it

will choose which fuel it wants to use.

And when you've been glucose using when

you're on a non- ketogenic diet, it's

going to use glucose first to fuel. But

if you can train it to to use fat in

that training, it's a longer, better

fuel with less inflammation. And um

especially in a a state where it will

use both fuels quickly. That takes time.

I mean, it takes and what I tell

patients is you'll love me in 18 months.

You'll think I'm pretty great at 6

months, but if you're trying to run a

marathon and we're only 3 to 4 weeks

out, you should not start a ketogenic

diet. You're going to think it's the

worst thing ever. It's meant to train

muscles to use fat and that takes time.

>> And is there a link between some of

these cognitive degeneration diseases

like Alzheimer's, dementia, etc., and

the ketogenic diet? Cuz I know that

there's been some research that's

underway and has been done to try and

establish causality. Is there a link here?

here?

>> Yeah. You know, it's one of the saddest

places where if you look at what

patients regret in life, they come into

the clinic and they're already starting

to say, "I was driving the other day and

I I got lost." And when I hear that, we

are 15 years too late. It is 15 years of

building up trash in that brain that we

have to clean out that debris.

And I had the privilege of an amazing

story that taught me I don't have the

gift of, you know, seeing into the

future. Am I going to reverse these

Alzheimer's before they show up? We

don't have the research for it. Um, but

I have a lot of clinical experience

saying, "Boy, they are so much better. I

don't know if their memory is going to

stay this good. We're only three years

into a ketogenic diet, but it's way

better than when it started." And then I

had a Down syndrome patient at 40 years

old uh in my practice. So her mother

came to see me first. She said, "I I

want to try this ketogenic diet. Um,

I've been helping my daughter who's has

Down syndrome. We've lost 100 pounds uh

because the doctor said that she might

do better if um if we lost some weight

and it's not an uncommon thing to see.

They have advanced insulin resistance

and advanced Alzheimer's

earlier in life. So, it's a great uh

place to study Alzheimer's because they

have a a more rapid onset of it. So, the

woman comes, she's lost 100 pounds, and

during that time, her mental cognition

got worse. So, now she's got 100 pounds

down, but none of those brain things are

better. And I said, "All right, if we're

going to do this with your daughter,

we're going to make sure we're pricking

your finger. It's not going to be fake.

We're going to do a real ketogenic

diet." So, the mom starts on a ketogenic

diet. And I think both her and mom are

genetically superpowered to make ketones

cuz they have ketones of like three

within a couple of days,

>> which is the average would be

>> like one if I if they hit one in a few

days. I'm thinking, good job. And the

mom calls me at the end of the week

saying, "Do you think it could possibly

work this fast? She is she's, you know,

doing the little jobs that she used to

do around the house." And I said, "Well,

call me again in a week. Let's see how

she's doing." And the mom goes, "The

most profound thing just happened. I've

taken care of this girl for 41 years.

And I asked her the other day if she was

doing something. She wanted to go to the

church with me, which means she left the

house and she was at the church and she

was giving her instructions to do this,

go around here and put it over there in

the give her a little job. And she said,

"Do you understand?" And the girl

replied, "I understand."

I said, "What's the big deal?"

And the mother said she had never said a

three syllable word in her whole life.

Two syllables is all her brain could

ever put together. For the first time in

her whole life, three weeks onto a

ketogenic diet. And this Alzheimer's

diagnosed patient who had Down syndrome

now had a brain that was not only

working great, it was doing the best mom

had ever seen it. And on a ketogenic

diet, not only did she lose about 15 to

20 more pounds, but her world opened up

again because her brain, which had

Alzheimer's, no longer had that diagnosis.

diagnosis.

>> I was looking at some of the supporting

studies around this around the impact

can have on the brain and studies show

that in dementia, especially in

Alzheimer's, the brain struggles to use

glucose efficiently. Ketones provide an

alternative, cleaner fuel source. Um,

ketogenic diets can boost mitochondrial

function and energy availability in

brain cells. Keto lowers systemic

inflammation which is linked to slower

cognitive decline. Um, ketones may

protect neurons from damage and promote

the growth of new neural connections.

And Alzheimer's is something called type

3 diabetes which I've heard a lot. Um,

and keto improves insulin in sensitivity

potentially reducing this risk. And

lastly, small studies show temporary

improvements in memory and cognition in

people with mild cognitive impairment or

early Alzheimer's. But the evidence is

early stage long-term adurance can be

hard and the diet isn't suitable for

everyone. Uh for example, underweight

people um and people with certain

medical conditions, >> right?

>> right?

>> So how do I measure my blood ketone

levels? Is that what these devices are

here on the

>> I mean when I look at um uh giving

patients the freedom to say don't don't

come to me for the things that I that

you can do at home. First thing is be

willing to check data. Okay.

>> Okay. So, blood way better than any

other way to measure this. We're going

to be able to see. Should we have a

contest? Which one's better? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. So, you want to go first?

>> Okay. So, what I'm going to do here is I

have a finger prick here which is going

to take some blood. It's going to prick

my finger. Then I have this little

reader. And I also have this little

strip here which I'm going to put my

blood onto.

>> And within a couple of seconds, it's

going to tell me how many ketones I

currently have in my body right now. And

so we're going to look at that at the

same time as your blood sugar, which is

how you can measure insulin. It's the

best proxy for saying how high is his

insulin. So put both of them in there

before you go because then you don't

have to prick yourself twice.

>> Okay. So

>> a blue one is going to measure the

ketones and a brown one's going to

measure your glucose.

>> Okay. And this device, how much does it

cost if people want to buy it at home

and start pricking their own?

>> Yeah, I think there's a kit that comes

with about 50 strips so you can have

ketones and glucose at the same time.

I'm guessing it's around 70 bucks or

maybe it's 60 to $70. I They have quite

the Yeah. Put it all in. There you go.

And so they'll still little lights on

the other one too, right? Perfect. Okay.

So now prick your finger. Best to do it

on the side of your finger because

there's less nerves there. There you go.

Good job.

>> Okay. So I'm going to put my blood onto

this one which is the keto reader.

>> And it'll it'll count. Uh let's see. I

my glucose is 86.

>> Takes more blood for the ketone.

>> And my ketone levels are.9.

Okay. So that's a Dr. B's ratio of 86

divided by 0.9 which is probably like 95

or something like 95ish, right?

right?

>> So my glucose levels at 86. Is that high

or low?

>> That's good. Uh so I would say that's

not low, it's just good.

>> Okay. and my ketone levels are 0.9.

>> Right? So when you look at them in

comparison, like you want to have a

blood sugar that's not triple digit. So

that's very good. And the closer the

higher you are above 0.5, the better the

result. So that's pretty good number.

>> So if I'm in ke ketosis, >> Mhm.

>> Mhm.

>> what reading would I have on this ketone meter?

meter?

>> 0.5 or greater. But it would be also

that you have that reading without a

triple digit blood sugar. So when I look

at the combination of them, I do a

little math and say your Dr. ratio is

like 95. So you are burning fat right now.

now. >> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> Okay. So that's a good sign. When I am

trying to help people who are trying to

undo cancer or autoimmune or brain

injuries, they have to have a better Dr.

Boss ratio than that.

>> Let's do your readings, okay, to see

where you're at.

>> All right,

drum roll. >> 83

>> 83

and 1.7. How are you at 1.7? What have

you done? So, I've learned that I would

love to be 33 again and be able to eat

that late at night. [laughter]

You said that I'm like, "Oh, it's been a

while since I've eaten that late at

night." It's probably the hardest thing

to teach my patients, too, is like, you

don't appreciate how much insulin you

make that late at night. Now, you're

still in a season where you get to just

kick your heels and enjoy youth. But at

my age, you cannot do that. I can eat in

the morning. I can have good calories of

high fat and good protein in the morning

and I've learned to stop eating

somewhere around three o'clock in the

afternoon. Um, in fact, if I Yeah, I know.

know.

>> 3:00 in the afternoon, you stop eating.

>> That's usually the case. You know what

what's really hard though is how much of

your life is social. Like you said, oh,

there was this dinner party last night

and I had pasta. And you're like, yep.

Uh, that would be something I have to

teach my patients. You have to say no to

that. You cannot be eating at 10 o'clock

at night if you want your insulin to not

to not do that deb breathing thing. And

boy, when their memory isn't going well,

when their friends are dying of u memory

problems, you know, it's I don't like

using fear tactics. I don't think they

last very long. But it is such a reality

of poor performance that I can't do

that. I cannot eat at 10:30 at night.

What is [clears throat] it about being

asleep that causes the sort of

deregulation? Like what is it about it

doing it at night?

>> So now it's going to take that metabolic

curve and in order to store all of the

part that gets stored and then turn the

part into fat that needs to be tucked

away and get back to baseline, it's

going to be 8 hours. At least 8 hours,

>> which is fine, >> right?

>> right?

>> Because I don't eat till I'm probably

not going to eat till 2 p.m. today.

>> Right. Well, you you missed one part.

The sun will rise. When the sun rises,

even if you're in solitary confinement,

you cannot see the sun. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Your brain knows that the sun just went

up and cortisol rises. >> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> Cortisol leaves your brain, goes to the

liver and says, you know, that stored

sugar, that glycogen release. You make

glucose first thing in the morning. How

much glucose depends on how insulin

resistant you are. So, you're going to

you're going to have an uneaten meal

when you wake up in the morning. Glucose

has been stored for this purpose. It's

going to wake you up. That's going to

give you the energy when sun rises to to

fuel you. If you got a bunch stored,

you're going to have a high blood sugar.

>> Can we do Jack's ketone levels? I'd like

to know where Jack is at.

>> Let's do that. [laughter] What's Jack do

for a for his?

>> We're about to find out.

>> I don't think I'm going to be

>> No. Wait a minute. Is Jack the one that

did the V2 max with Peter Aia and you

>> Well, you know, peak brain performance

is my thing and one of the hardest

brains to heal are chronic runners. That

trauma thing is real. Like it's so hard

to explain to them, too. If you're a

vegan who runs, you're in trouble.

>> 95% of vegans that listen to this

podcast frequently don't subscribe.

>> Oh, yeah. Well, all right. So, his

glucose is 88. Not too bad.

>> Ketones. Boo. Absolutely. Yeah. That's

an example of he is making trash.

There's no trash going out.

>> So, his ketone level is what the

>> 0.1 and his blood sugar is 88. So, if

you take 88 divided by 0.1, it's like

what? 1,000 or something. It's really

high. 888 probably. Uh that is a lot of

trash being made when that Dr. Bos ratio

is high. You you can't take it out.

>> Do you want to say that's his face? I

mean I feel like [laughter]

>> I just think that when Peter did that

and said, "Oh, I had no idea." I'm like,

"You could have just checked this first

thing in the morning for 5 days." If you

have that kind of a Dr. Boss ratio,

you're insulin resistant. You're insulin

resistant. You have to be hitting that

in a routine regular interval in life to

not have those problems to have

osteoporosis at such a young age. Uh a

ketogenic state would not allow that.

You would be using resources much better.

better.

>> He actually did a test and it turns out

he doesn't have osteoporosis but

>> Oh, good. That was

>> that was shocking. >> Yeah,

>> Yeah,

>> it was like

>> you shouldn't have osteoporosis at your age.

age.

>> No, I think that was a misreading

because of the scanner, but um >> Right.

>> Right.

>> but on this on this point in particular,

>> his keto levels are 0.1. So he's

basically running off glucose,

>> all glucose. And and so why is that

happening? Okay, whatever he ate, the

insulin went up. So let's say he was

your exact same eating pattern. He ate

last night. He had the 6, eight hours of

sleep. The cortisol said, "Oh, the sun's

rising." And it rose his blood sugar a

little bit. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm.

>> Okay. When the sugar's high, you can't

you you can't your your insulin is going

to be high, too. You're not making ketones.

ketones.

>> When I did these this keto test with

most of the team here, they were all

around that region. and they were in the

region of 0.1 ketones in their blood to 0.3.

0.3.

>> Welcome to my clinic in 10 years. That

is trash being made, never being taken out.

out.

>> And so you'd say to them, you need to do

some fasting. You need to

>> you need to cut scarves. Yeah. I mean,

if you're looking for quick, okay, if

they're in their 20s, I mean, I have

three kids, right? And they have heard

this chirp for 10 years. Uh, I mean, how

I got into this was my mother was very

sick and she was sick because of a high

insulin problem that caused cancer. So,

we put her in a ketogenic state and

everybody in the family got on board.

So, here's three little boys who no

longer have candy around. Now, they're

in their young 20s and for the first

time they're actually listening to say,

"Gosh, mom, one of them's at Georgetown.

He has to read for long periods of time

for Georgetown Law School." And he's

like, "If I'm not in a ketogenic state,

I can't keep the focus." And I said, I

said, 'Well, how are you doing that? At

first, he tried some of the supplements.

Okay, but what really happened was he

cut the carbs down and said, I can say

no to that because of the sustained

brain power. I mean, it's really easy in

your early 20s to do this. Cut the carbs

even to 50, but prove to yourself that

you made ketones and that return on your

dividends is you won't be seeing me in

25 years.

>> So, you have this idea of this keto

continuum. Mhm.

>> What is the ketone continuum? I read

about it. I mean, it's a it's a

[clears throat] book here that I have

which you published in 2020 called the

ketone continuum. Consistently keto for life,

life, >> right?

>> right?

>> So, the keto continuum is this 12step process,

process, >> right,

>> right,

>> to get into a consistent keto.

>> Consistently keto. Yeah. That you're

constantly taking out the trash. The

first part is the beginner.

>> Okay. So, the first part, the beginner

section has four stages to it, >> right?

>> right?

>> What are what are those four stages?

Well, I I like to tell patients that you

never fall all the way off of the

continuum. So, the first part the first

step is really not keto, but it is that

they're eating every two to three hours.

And if they fall off the wagon, that's

usually where they land. So, that's what

most people start at. They're eating

every two to three hours. They are not

keeping their carbs less than 20. Step

two is cut your carbs to 20. That's the

only thing I need you to measure. And

you're going to be able to use a ketone

strip, you know, measure ketones in your

urine. Uh, and that will ride you you'll

ride a wave. And that ketone production

is happening. The fat-based hormones in

your body are starting to resurrect.

They're starting to do the things that

they need to do. And there will be this

magical moment in the not too near

future where you skip a meal.

>> And this that beginning stage, how long

does that last? I'll put this on the

screen so everybody can see. >> Sure.

>> Sure.

>> The continuum. Um, how long does that

initial beginner stage last for people

>> if they've been severely insulin

resistant? This is the ones where I've

said they took their carbs to 20 for for

two weeks before they peed a ketone. So,

I use some other steps if that's how

severe that is. But let's just take the

average person that's like not they're

not 100 pounds overweight. They're

hitting menopause and they've put on 25

lbs. when they drop their carbs to 20,

they're peing a ketone by the end of the

week and they are missing their first

meal by day 10.

>> Okay. So, day 10 and then it says when

we get to stage five in the keto

continuum, it says 168 168. Is that

>> Yeah. So, then we start to use

timerestricted eating uh where I want I

mean we're going to your body will

adapt. People say you can't stay on the

keto diet because they go to step four

and then they think that that's all they

needed to do. There are several steps to

reversing this problem and you'll know

you have the right step if the ketones

are still present in your gut in your

blood. Your body will adapt though. So,

we start to say, "All right, we're going

to learn some new behaviors. We're going

to learn what the nothing burger looks

like at least for 16 hours out of the day."

day."

>> What does that mean?

>> You do not eat a thing in those 16

hours. Now, I I give them a little hedge

because most people come in like you.

They don't start eating until two

o'clock in the afternoon and then they

eat until 10 o'clock. And I want them

fat forward. I want lots of fat going in

because insulin resistance uh that high

insulin state means they've locked or

they've insulated their fat on their body.

body.

>> And then we get to stage seven where it

says 231. Is that fasting for 23 hours a

day and eating for 1 hour a day?

And the there's a little bitty line

between 168 and 23 in1, but there's a

whole bunch of life there. Meaning, we

don't actually have patients go from 16

hours of fasting uh to 23. We have them

slide it down by an hour, slide it down

by an hour, and then we do that harder

thing, which is move it towards sunrise.

Quit eating so late at night. And then

the last stage here, so so step 9, 10,

11, and 12 is prolonged fasting between

36 and 72-hour fasting.

>> Right? So those folks that have high

insulin for 20, you know, 15, 20 years,

they're going to have to do a nothing

burger for 36 hours in most of them to

really give a good reset of their

metabolism. And although you you look at

other folks saying, "Oh, you should

never do that if you're a woman. You

should never do that over the age of

50." I'm saying you have too much

insulin in your body. You have to do

that to get the pancreas to make less

insulin over time.

>> On that point, between men and women,

are there metabolic differences that

need to be mentioned here? Because, you

know, when I sometimes when I do

ketogenic fasting, my girlfriend, she

takes much longer than me to get into a

ketogenic state. And I'm wondering if

her body is in some way trying to defend

>> the switch.

>> Have you ever seen the the reality show Alone?

Alone?

>> Oh, no. I'm not show guy.

>> No, I'm not either. But they drop these

people off in the middle of nowhere and

they starve them to death. And you watch

the fat come off of them. And the men,

the fat just melts off of them. And the

women, they do what your girlfriend

does. It just holds on to them. That we

are designed to have that fat on them.

So asking them to do a ketogenic state,

you'll hear people say, "Oh, it's going

to ruin your hormones. Oh, it's going to

you can't do that." And um I would

[clears throat] say you can have all

those conversations once their insulin

is normal. What I have lots of women in

childbearing years that are excessive

producers of insulin and their vitamin D

is low, their estrogen is low, they have

hair loss on the top of their head, they

have skin tags throughout their body, or

maybe the first sign was they had PCOS.

Okay, all of these are a sign that

insulin came in and it's too high in

their body. So lowering it has rules and

if you want to have a baby, carry a

baby, uh have uh the weight come off

after you've gestated a baby, um have

weight not be your enemy during

menopause. You have to be making ketones

at a routine and regular interval and

start with the food. Start with the

menus in the kitchen. Don't run to the

gym first. I've noticed uh in women in

my life that they've told me that their

menstrual cycles become more synced up

when they are in a lower carbohydrate diet.

diet.

>> Right? Their hormones can hear each

other. I mean, when insulin is high,

insulin dictates what that sugar does,

but it also is the dictator for every

morsel of fat. And estrogen,

testosterone, vitamin D, they're all a

derivative of fat, of cholesterol. And

they are they're put into the fat cells.

If you biopsy an obese woman and say,

"Can I see is there any vitamin D hidden

in there? Is there any estrogen? Is

there any?" Yes, they're all in those

fat cells, you start to lower their

insulin and the fat mobilizes. So, the

hormones that are naturally communicated

between women, they can actually hear

them again. I mean, that that tribal thing.

thing.

>> If a woman were to stay in a ketogenic

state permanently,

would there be any disruption to her

metabolic health?

>> You mean like me?

>> Yeah. like her, you know, her menstrual

cycles, her uh yeah, anything.

>> No, I think it's you're going to find

people that it shouldn't be extreme.

Meaning, I've been on this for 15 years.

The ketogenic phase is at least 20 out

of 30 days uh in a month. The first few

years I was on it. Now, at 55, menopause

in the last year, um I'm like without a

ketone, my brain doesn't work right now

without a ketone. uh [clears throat] my

energy goes to pot and I have been

walking women through menopause for 25

years. It is not a fun story when

they're insulin resistant. So prepare uh

have the flexibility of that

mitochondria to use both ketones and

glucose and that's what a ketogenic

state is.

>> Well, we have 12 cans of sardines here

and uh I I I wondered why you you

brought sardines with

>> Well, yes. That's a hell of a tool. Why?

Why?

>> So, um, when you're trying to help

patients change behavior, [laughter]

>> sorry, the sardine juice has gone on my iPad.

iPad.

>> Oh, good luck getting that off. Yeah,

sardines rank for uh the worst smelling,

but they're not the worst tasting. When

it comes to bitter in fish, they don't

have the bitterness that tuna does. So,

>> tell me about sardines. Why Why should I

be eating sardines? When you're trying

to teach patients, those stats that you

read off a minute ago, they don't care.

They need a very clear step on how do I

begin. And when you're working with

somebody who cannot seem to get their

ketones to rise, and I give them a whole

list of menus that's too noisy, let's

take it down to one food that is high in

fat, high in some of the best fats, high

in protein, it's whole foods, and it's

affordable for everybody under the sun.

>> Okay. So, you do you do like a sardine fast?

fast?

>> Yeah. So in fact that that 21 day I mean

21 day is that three-week course where I

say I will teach you how to do an

advanced ketogenic diet where everybody

will be peeing ke or making abundant

ketones. On day six uh I say all right

the only thing on the menu for the next

three days is sardines. There's no

eating window. You can eat as much as

you want. There's no limit to the

amount. And what I'm pushing them to do

is not only eat a nutrient-dense food

but I want them to feel satiety. I want

them to feel full.

>> Do I need to be consuming a lot of fat

as well?

>> There's plenty of fat in there.

>> But I mean, generally, because this is

one of the the

>> things always puzzles me is I I'll go

let's say I went a week without eating carbohydrates.

carbohydrates.

>> Sometimes I'm still not in ketosis. And

I think I heard somewhere that it's

because my fat

>> isn't high enough. So

>> yeah. So again, you at the time you went

you went seven days without eating

hardly any carbs, right?

>> And you still didn't make a lot of ketones.

ketones.

>> Okay. So you had fat on your body. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. So why didn't the fat get to your mitochondria?

mitochondria?

Excess insulin. Okay. You had been in a

high insulin state. So if you swallow

the fat, then you can turn it into

ketones. Right now all your fats locked

under this insulin bed. If you kept

going, it would eventually hit. But

that's painful. I mean, I have patients

who do it for two weeks.

>> So what you saying? You're saying that I

need to eat fat.

>> Yeah. So if you put the sardines in oil,

uh that's a great highfat, high protein.

Uh, it's also a little easier to

masticate the the meat and you'll have

high fat, high protein, and you'll have

beautiful ketones by by 48 hours, maybe 72.

72.

>> And what what is the the composition of

my diet in terms of protein, fats, and

carbohydrates when I'm trying to get

into a ketogenic state?

>> Yeah. I don't let people get distracted

by this, right? I say look at your

finger. If it's got a high ketone, you

have got enough fat and enough protein

uh and low enough carbs. What most

people have is the story you told. I've

been doing this for five days. Why don't

I make any ketones? And the answer is

what is hidden behind the chemistry is

too much insulin. You've got to have And

so that's a great place to say put the

fat up, keep the carbs low, and the

ketones will come.

>> When you say put the fat up, you mean

eat more fatty foods. Give me an example

of the type of shopping list that if I

was trying to get in a ketogenic state

and stay there,

>> I would have.

>> Yeah. My one of my favorite things is uh

uh pork belly, more eggs, beef brisket,

uh ribs, >> avocado,

>> avocado,

>> avocado have a beautiful marketing team,

but they do have carbs in them and I've

had people overeat them. Like I have

four avocados today. I'm like that's you

you're on the wrong bandwagon there.

Avocado makes the list, don't get me

wrong, but it's not a diet of mostly

avocado with a sprinkle of chicken

breast. That's not going to get you into

ketosis. The fat has to be higher than

that. Most of the time when I'm really

struggling with a patient who just can't

seem to make ketones, can't seem to make

ketones, and they won't do the sardines,

I've said, "Eat butter for a day. That's

100% fat."

>> Okay. So, you can just have increase the

butter and

>> Yeah, you could have that. Okay. So, that

that

>> Are there carbs in here? >> No.

>> No. >> No.

>> No.

>> No. It's just fat.

>> Mhm. And it's not awful, but it is a

great social experiment where they

haven't felt what satiety feels like in

a while. People talk about net carbs.

They say, you know, an avocado has 12

grams of carbs in, but it has 10 grams

of fiber. So, the net carbs is two.

>> If you've never had insulin resistant,

you can do it that way. My patients have

had high insulin, and I don't play that

game. It's got to be total carbs.

Fiber is for farting.

>> Do you recognize this photo of this lady?

lady?

>> Oh, yes.

>> Who is she?

>> Why, she is just a great story. Jane had uh

she had pathology with how she thought

about food. Like many patients, she

she had food as the way she coped with a

lot of things. And as long as she was

clearing her plate and using that food,

it comforted a lot of wounds. When you

start to address some of these things, I

mean, the ketogenic diet doesn't fail if

you just follow the chemistry. The

ketogenic diet fails when you have

humans who've had wounds, who've had a history, who have stress, who don't

history, who have stress, who don't sleep. And Jane was a great story where

sleep. And Jane was a great story where all the goodness in the world couldn't

all the goodness in the world couldn't undo some of that relationship she had

undo some of that relationship she had with food. Uh so the first time she's

with food. Uh so the first time she's one of the coaches that I used for that

one of the coaches that I used for that 21day and she just has the best outcomes

21day and she just has the best outcomes because she was doing the a strong

because she was doing the a strong ketogenic diet, you know, for those

ketogenic diet, you know, for those three weeks twice a year. and she

three weeks twice a year. and she decided that after I think the third

decided that after I think the third class she was going to do sardines only

class she was going to do sardines only for 30 days and she writes me at the end

for 30 days and she writes me at the end of the 30 days can't believe how great

of the 30 days can't believe how great she feels and really kind of addressed

she feels and really kind of addressed some of those demons associated with why

some of those demons associated with why she would eat what she would eat and

she would eat what she would eat and then life hit again and she put on some

then life hit again and she put on some of the weight again um she'd used

of the weight again um she'd used sardines intermittently and she called

sardines intermittently and she called me and said all right I think I'm going

me and said all right I think I'm going to do this again I'm going to just go on

to do this again I'm going to just go on sardines and really have a some come to

sardines and really have a some come to Jesus moments on why it why it is that I

Jesus moments on why it why it is that I do some of the things I do. I mean, it's

do some of the things I do. I mean, it's a really vulnerable moment where you can

a really vulnerable moment where you can hide those moments. You can never tell a

hide those moments. You can never tell a soul what's really going on through your

soul what's really going on through your mind. And she was going to address them.

mind. And she was going to address them. And I said, "Well, I have a bone to pick

And I said, "Well, I have a bone to pick with Joe Rogan.

with Joe Rogan. He has said some inappropriate things

He has said some inappropriate things about sardines, like they're arsenic

about sardines, like they're arsenic poisoning. So, I'd like to check a few

poisoning. So, I'd like to check a few blood levels in you before you start."

blood levels in you before you start." So, we check her vitamin D, we check her

So, we check her vitamin D, we check her arsenic, selenium, and a few other

arsenic, selenium, and a few other things. and she starts on her sardine

things. and she starts on her sardine challenge, her sardine journey, and she

challenge, her sardine journey, and she goes a 100 days, 100 days of only

goes a 100 days, 100 days of only sardines. And not only does she, first

sardines. And not only does she, first of all, her vitamin D, she did not take

of all, her vitamin D, she did not take any vitamin D. She stopped her vitamin

any vitamin D. She stopped her vitamin D. It went from like the 30s and 40s up

D. It went from like the 30s and 40s up to just maybe over 100, 108 or

to just maybe over 100, 108 or something. Uh, her selenium didn't do

something. Uh, her selenium didn't do anything naughty. Her arsenic did not do

anything naughty. Her arsenic did not do anything naughty like Joe Rogan said it

anything naughty like Joe Rogan said it would. and she was able to um not only

would. and she was able to um not only shed the pounds but really

shed the pounds but really say some truths about why she was eating

say some truths about why she was eating so much

so much and she confronted the pathology about

and she confronted the pathology about why why is she using food for those

why why is she using food for those other things. You know, I do this thing

other things. You know, I do this thing in the 21day where I ask them to find

in the 21day where I ask them to find their best day in their life and I'm

their best day in their life and I'm trying to just get them to think about

trying to just get them to think about what does that feel like? What what did

what does that feel like? What what did that look like? and then we go to the

that look like? and then we go to the worst day in their life. And Jane wrote

worst day in their life. And Jane wrote something that really touched me. She

something that really touched me. She said, "I don't think I've ever had the

said, "I don't think I've ever had the best day of my life."

best day of my life." This was probably the third or fourth

This was probably the third or fourth time we'd done that exercise. So, she'

time we'd done that exercise. So, she' done it in a way where it didn't bring

done it in a way where it didn't bring any extra attention, but she was she

any extra attention, but she was she spoke a truth that just said, "I've had

spoke a truth that just said, "I've had this fear for so long

this fear for so long that for the first time, I'm going to

that for the first time, I'm going to say out loud that I'm looking for the

say out loud that I'm looking for the best day of my life, and I feel like I

best day of my life, and I feel like I have the freedom to do it.

have the freedom to do it. That's what happened after 100 days of

That's what happened after 100 days of sardines.

sardines. >> So if she eats a sardines for 100 days,

>> So if she eats a sardines for 100 days, she's probably not going to get like the

she's probably not going to get like the gut microbiome.

gut microbiome. >> She has the best gut microbiome.

>> She has the best gut microbiome. >> Doesn't she need to be eating plants to

>> Doesn't she need to be eating plants to >> Oh no. Fibers for farting. So you're

>> Oh no. Fibers for farting. So you're looking at a gut biome, right? And so

looking at a gut biome, right? And so tell me what you think that is.

tell me what you think that is. >> Uh lots of bugs that have been feeding

>> Uh lots of bugs that have been feeding on plants. [laughter]

on plants. [laughter] >> Okay. Yes, Pututyrate has uh has part of

>> Okay. Yes, Pututyrate has uh has part of that equation. So, gut biome is the

that equation. So, gut biome is the slime layer inside your gut. It's where

slime layer inside your gut. It's where the critters live. It's where they set

the critters live. It's where they set up homes and they if you have a really

up homes and they if you have a really good slime layer, it's squishy. It's

good slime layer, it's squishy. It's dense. It's not moth eaten. It's not

dense. It's not moth eaten. It's not aquous or waterlike. It's squishy. And

aquous or waterlike. It's squishy. And when you put plants in there, when you

when you put plants in there, when you put fiber in there, it tears that down.

put fiber in there, it tears that down. Uh, and you say, "Well, fiber is needed

Uh, and you say, "Well, fiber is needed for this because some of those bugs eat

for this because some of those bugs eat up on the fiber and they put out some

up on the fiber and they put out some butyrate and that helps these other

butyrate and that helps these other bacteria to to grow." You're like,

bacteria to to grow." You're like, "Yeah, that's one way to get a good

"Yeah, that's one way to get a good microbiome." But we haven't been fiber

microbiome." But we haven't been fiber eaters forever. And when you look at

eaters forever. And when you look at many of my carnivore patients,

many of my carnivore patients, especially when they've got, you know,

especially when they've got, you know, some of those little fish scattered into

some of those little fish scattered into that carnivore diet, um, their symptoms

that carnivore diet, um, their symptoms of irritable bowel, of chronic diarrhea,

of irritable bowel, of chronic diarrhea, of, you know, bloody ulcers reverse.

of, you know, bloody ulcers reverse. Why? Because that gut biome got a lot

Why? Because that gut biome got a lot stronger and a lot healthier. So, the

stronger and a lot healthier. So, the things that I from doing this podcast

things that I from doing this podcast for a long time, the things that I' I'd

for a long time, the things that I' I'd be concerned about if I just ate

be concerned about if I just ate sardines for a prolonged period of time

sardines for a prolonged period of time or really any diet, I guess, for a

or really any diet, I guess, for a prolonged period of time, a narrow diet

prolonged period of time, a narrow diet would be the fiber issue we talked

would be the fiber issue we talked about.

about. >> Um, and then all the other things that

>> Um, and then all the other things that are just not in sardines, I mean,

are just not in sardines, I mean, vitamin C.

vitamin C. >> Yeah, you still get a good vitamin C.

>> Yeah, you still get a good vitamin C. So, vitamin C has different rules when

So, vitamin C has different rules when you go carnivore.

you go carnivore. >> What about magnesium?

>> What about magnesium? >> Yeah, lots of that. Magnesium, I still

>> Yeah, lots of that. Magnesium, I still think is one supplement we all need.

think is one supplement we all need. >> What about sodium overload? Because

>> What about sodium overload? Because these are very salty, right? your sodium

these are very salty, right? your sodium churn. How well you use sodium is

churn. How well you use sodium is dependent on how well you've eaten in

dependent on how well you've eaten in the last week. So when you increase the

the last week. So when you increase the sodium, those receptors get better. When

sodium, those receptors get better. When you decrease the sodium, those receptors

you decrease the sodium, those receptors showed down. That's a that is an

showed down. That's a that is an adjustment that everybody will make.

adjustment that everybody will make. >> What about things like mercury and the

>> What about things like mercury and the sort of metals toxin?

sort of metals toxin? >> Little fish, little problems. You got

>> Little fish, little problems. You got the right one for mercury. Again, we

the right one for mercury. Again, we tested that for her, too. 100 days, no

tested that for her, too. 100 days, no problem.

problem. >> Oh, especially in the can as well.

>> Oh, especially in the can as well. I think I've got a bit of an issue with

I think I've got a bit of an issue with canned food these days because I've

canned food these days because I've heard so many

heard so many >> microplastics,

>> microplastics, >> microplastic toxins, etc.

>> microplastic toxins, etc. >> I think you're majoring in the minor

>> I think you're majoring in the minor leagues there that the the amount of

leagues there that the the amount of benefit that people get from sardines

benefit that people get from sardines versus whatever might be in those in

versus whatever might be in those in that can. I tell patients not to worry

that can. I tell patients not to worry about it.

about it. >> And then the last point I said was about

>> And then the last point I said was about digestive and mood issues because the

digestive and mood issues because the gut microbiome is so

gut microbiome is so >> so linked to brain. Absolutely.

>> so linked to brain. Absolutely. >> Serotonin, isn't it? the the

>> Serotonin, isn't it? the the >> I mean serotonin is in the gut, but it's

>> I mean serotonin is in the gut, but it's it's a huge part of like a GLP-1 the GIP

it's a huge part of like a GLP-1 the GIP they're all produced hormones in the gut

they're all produced hormones in the gut that are hugely impacting your brain.

that are hugely impacting your brain. And when you want GLP-1 to be made, have

And when you want GLP-1 to be made, have a strong thick microbiome. You do not

a strong thick microbiome. You do not need fiber to do that. You need

need fiber to do that. You need butyrate.

butyrate. Butyrate is that twocarbon

Butyrate is that twocarbon uh fat that comes from acromancia you

uh fat that comes from acromancia you you know chewing up the fiber, right? or

you know chewing up the fiber, right? or beta hydroxybutyrate in your blood.

beta hydroxybutyrate in your blood. That's that ketone thing you're got over

That's that ketone thing you're got over there.

there. >> These things.

>> These things. >> Yeah, all of them.

>> Yeah, all of them. >> God. [laughter]

>> God. [laughter] >> There you go. Yes. It's a beta

>> There you go. Yes. It's a beta hydroxybutyrate is what that is going to

hydroxybutyrate is what that is going to turn into your circulation. Butyrate is

turn into your circulation. Butyrate is a fat chain

a fat chain >> that's two carbons long. That's what the

>> that's two carbons long. That's what the you're asking that microbiome to say

you're asking that microbiome to say here this long string of fibers coming

here this long string of fibers coming along and that that little bug is going

along and that that little bug is going to eat a piece of it and make butyrate.

to eat a piece of it and make butyrate. Two carbons of fat. That's one of these

Two carbons of fat. That's one of these things that you're talking about. You

things that you're talking about. You need to have butyrate. You need to have

need to have butyrate. You need to have butyrate. That's what every every Why

butyrate. That's what every every Why are you even in Viterate? You got to

are you even in Viterate? You got to have butyrate.

have butyrate. >> All these, you know, experts come on my

>> All these, you know, experts come on my show and they talk about the importance

show and they talk about the importance of having a diverse

of having a diverse >> I know. I I've I've watched a bunch of

>> I know. I I've I've watched a bunch of them. Diverse microbiome. Yes. And what

them. Diverse microbiome. Yes. And what I think

I think >> so it's not going to be diverse if I'm

>> so it's not going to be diverse if I'm just eating one thing.

just eating one thing. >> Oh yes, it will.

>> Oh yes, it will. >> Measuring.

>> Measuring. >> So that's the whole point of a

>> So that's the whole point of a microbiome is what what you know diverse

microbiome is what what you know diverse enough to be supportive. I mean diverse

enough to be supportive. I mean diverse enough to have the the two chain fat

enough to have the the two chain fat that you want to have in there. I mean

that you want to have in there. I mean go back uh and and look at when our

go back uh and and look at when our bodies were just eating um you know fish

bodies were just eating um you know fish or carnivore. Uh the the beauty of a

or carnivore. Uh the the beauty of a microbiome is how much it does adjust in

microbiome is how much it does adjust in every patient.

every patient. >> What about supplementation? What are the

>> What about supplementation? What are the key supplements that you don't live

key supplements that you don't live without on a daily basis?

without on a daily basis? >> Vitamin D turns out to be a really

>> Vitamin D turns out to be a really important one. Like if I'm eating

important one. Like if I'm eating sardines uh four or five cans a week, I

sardines uh four or five cans a week, I probably don't need vitamin D. But

probably don't need vitamin D. But >> why is it so important? Vitamin D.

>> why is it so important? Vitamin D. >> Yeah. It's a hormone, right? A hormone

>> Yeah. It's a hormone, right? A hormone that goes and talks to every one of the

that goes and talks to every one of the cells in your body. and it tells that

cells in your body. and it tells that cell to be its best version of itself.

cell to be its best version of itself. That hormone uh goes to the nucleus and

That hormone uh goes to the nucleus and it makes that skin cell do something

it makes that skin cell do something different. It makes your brain cell do

different. It makes your brain cell do something different. It makes your heart

something different. It makes your heart cell do something different. You read

cell do something different. You read all the benefits about vitamin D and you

all the benefits about vitamin D and you think it's like it's like it does

think it's like it's like it does everything like how can it do all of

everything like how can it do all of these things and the reason why is it is

these things and the reason why is it is not just a vitamin. It's a hormone that

not just a vitamin. It's a hormone that changes how the cell functions.

changes how the cell functions. Unfortunately, it's made of fat.

Unfortunately, it's made of fat. So, if you have high insulin, it gets

So, if you have high insulin, it gets stuck parked in your fat cells and it

stuck parked in your fat cells and it didn't get to the cell.

didn't get to the cell. >> Is there a link between vitamin D and

>> Is there a link between vitamin D and ketosis and weight loss and insulin?

ketosis and weight loss and insulin? >> Yeah, it's actually why I pointed out

>> Yeah, it's actually why I pointed out that when Jane did that 100 day, uh,

that when Jane did that 100 day, uh, she's been struggling with her vitamin D

she's been struggling with her vitamin D in the 30s or 40s, right?

in the 30s or 40s, right? >> But for the best brain, we wanted to be

>> But for the best brain, we wanted to be of 50.

of 50. >> So, she starts on the sardine challenge.

>> So, she starts on the sardine challenge. It's in the 30s or 40s, and she's

It's in the 30s or 40s, and she's supplementing. She's taking as much as

supplementing. She's taking as much as she can, but what's happening? her

she can, but what's happening? her insulin was putting it in her fat. She

insulin was putting it in her fat. She goes on sardines which have vitamin D in

goes on sardines which have vitamin D in them. By the end, her vitamin D was 105,

them. By the end, her vitamin D was 105, 108, something like that. So, you can

108, something like that. So, you can see the experts say don't go above 100,

see the experts say don't go above 100, but the I don't I don't have any worry

but the I don't I don't have any worry about hers being 108. What happened was

about hers being 108. What happened was she lowered her insulin and now fat can

she lowered her insulin and now fat can move around in her body like it's

move around in her body like it's supposed to. And part of that fat isn't

supposed to. And part of that fat isn't just her estrogen, it was her vitamin D.

just her estrogen, it was her vitamin D. She looks like 20 years younger.

She looks like 20 years younger. >> Isn't it amazing? You should see how

>> Isn't it amazing? You should see how joyful she is. That's the part that

joyful she is. That's the part that you're like what unlocked during those

you're like what unlocked during those 100 days of you can say food

100 days of you can say food restriction, but vitamin D went up, uh

restriction, but vitamin D went up, uh insulin went down, and she really said,

insulin went down, and she really said, "How many things am I going to comfort

"How many things am I going to comfort in my life from food?" And let's let's

in my life from food?" And let's let's let's tackle that demon.

let's tackle that demon. >> Did it stick?

>> Did it stick? >> Yeah, that's the cool part.

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What What about the other supplements that you would not live without? Well, I

that you would not live without? Well, I think the whole world's low on

think the whole world's low on magnesium. I wish I could. Magnesium.

magnesium. I wish I could. Magnesium. Yeah.

Yeah. >> So, magnesium is required for every

>> So, magnesium is required for every little It's like the spark plug in our

little It's like the spark plug in our bodies. It's a little metal and it's how

bodies. It's a little metal and it's how ATP gets recycled and you need it for

ATP gets recycled and you need it for almost every enzyme. But our food is low

almost every enzyme. But our food is low in it. Our foods, our soil is low on it.

in it. Our foods, our soil is low on it. You just got to replace it. I I use

You just got to replace it. I I use magnesium supplements, but I also have

magnesium supplements, but I also have my patients go for a magnesium float.

my patients go for a magnesium float. >> What's that? Uh, ever seen pictures of

>> What's that? Uh, ever seen pictures of people in the Dead Sea?

people in the Dead Sea? >> No.

>> No. >> Uh, they're floating, right? This the

>> Uh, they're floating, right? This the salinity or the salt level is so high

salinity or the salt level is so high and it stinks, right? It's a stinky

and it stinks, right? It's a stinky place. It's magnesium. So, they go in

place. It's magnesium. So, they go in there, they soak in the magnesium and

there, they soak in the magnesium and you're like, "Oh my gosh, I feel so much

you're like, "Oh my gosh, I feel so much better." Like, that's got to be junk

better." Like, that's got to be junk science, right? Well, it turns out it's

science, right? Well, it turns out it's not. So, you can get magnesium absorbed

not. So, you can get magnesium absorbed through your skin. And just like, I

through your skin. And just like, I don't know, in the 1990s you'd go rent

don't know, in the 1990s you'd go rent time in a tanning bed, you can rent time

time in a tanning bed, you can rent time in a magnesium float. any of this.

in a magnesium float. any of this. >> So, omega-3, if you're not doing fish,

>> So, omega-3, if you're not doing fish, uh you can't go wrong with omega-3. And

uh you can't go wrong with omega-3. And you know, uh I Stephen, I really push my

you know, uh I Stephen, I really push my patients to have ketones around.

patients to have ketones around. >> What? When you say ketones, you mean

>> What? When you say ketones, you mean external

external >> exogenous ketones. Yeah.

>> exogenous ketones. Yeah. >> So, the word exogenous means external

>> So, the word exogenous means external externally consumed. And there's some on

externally consumed. And there's some on the table here. I'm an investor in this

the table here. I'm an investor in this company actually, so

company actually, so >> that's probably worth saying. Keton IQ.

>> that's probably worth saying. Keton IQ. Um there you've got some other ones here

Um there you've got some other ones here which are what's this? It's like a

which are what's this? It's like a >> that's ketone salts. So, this one is

>> that's ketone salts. So, this one is just beta hydroxybuteric acid. My

just beta hydroxybuteric acid. My husband is definitely allergic to

husband is definitely allergic to stevia, so I said, "I'll make this one

stevia, so I said, "I'll make this one for you, honey. It's just liquid

for you, honey. It's just liquid ketones,

ketones, >> okay?

>> okay? >> No sweeteners, no fillers, nothing."

>> No sweeteners, no fillers, nothing." >> And is there a difference between taking

>> And is there a difference between taking external [clears throat] ketones through

external [clears throat] ketones through a drink or through the salts or whatever

a drink or through the salts or whatever else versus actually being in the

else versus actually being in the ketogenic state because of your diet?

ketogenic state because of your diet? >> When you make it, it is much more

>> When you make it, it is much more abundant. But when you do what people

abundant. But when you do what people do, they fall off the wag again or

do, they fall off the wag again or they're very insulin resistant, so their

they're very insulin resistant, so their body is trying to catch up to to

body is trying to catch up to to equilibrate, you want ketones put back

equilibrate, you want ketones put back in circulation because it will spark

in circulation because it will spark their liver to make ketones. So it

their liver to make ketones. So it really is a jump start for patients with

really is a jump start for patients with chronic insulin resistance, chronic

chronic insulin resistance, chronic problems. We got about, you know, six

problems. We got about, you know, six years of getting them to the healthiest

years of getting them to the healthiest version of themselves as long as they

version of themselves as long as they don't fall off the wagon. So when they

don't fall off the wagon. So when they are doing okay and now they need to get

are doing okay and now they need to get back on track, give them a dose of

back on track, give them a dose of ketones and by putting ketones in their

ketones and by putting ketones in their circulation like that by checking their

circulation like that by checking their blood, the liver will make ketones. So

blood, the liver will make ketones. So it's not just a fuel. They will feel

it's not just a fuel. They will feel better. It's a signal for the liver to

better. It's a signal for the liver to make more ketones.

make more ketones. >> But I'm not going to be burning fat than

>> But I'm not going to be burning fat than am I?

am I? >> You will. I mean again ketones beget

>> You will. I mean again ketones beget ketones. When you are making ketones,

ketones. When you are making ketones, your body makes more ketones. So if you

your body makes more ketones. So if you jump start it by swallowing some, you

jump start it by swallowing some, you get better tomorrow. they'll get better

get better tomorrow. they'll get better tomorrow. And usually if somebody's

tomorrow. And usually if somebody's falling off the wagon, I'll have them do

falling off the wagon, I'll have them do ketones for like 3 days and the fourth

ketones for like 3 days and the fourth day they are on their own again and

day they are on their own again and they'll stay steady for a couple of

they'll stay steady for a couple of weeks and then they'll have pasta.

weeks and then they'll have pasta. >> I I that's why I invested in this

>> I I that's why I invested in this company because I'm actually a owner of

company because I'm actually a owner of the business now. Um because I saw the

the business now. Um because I saw the benefits of having exogenous ketones on

benefits of having exogenous ketones on a regular basis,

a regular basis, >> right?

>> right? >> So if anyone wants to try them, go to

>> So if anyone wants to try them, go to ketone.com

ketone.com >> and your [clears throat] brain will use

>> and your [clears throat] brain will use it like that. meaning super fast, right?

it like that. meaning super fast, right? >> When I use my ketone reader, it appears

>> When I use my ketone reader, it appears in about 15 minutes or 20 minutes for so

in about 15 minutes or 20 minutes for so >> and their liver then makes more ketones

>> and their liver then makes more ketones for the next 12 hours. That's the part

for the next 12 hours. That's the part that I I especially for my cancer

that I I especially for my cancer patients or people who are really I mean

patients or people who are really I mean we need ketones high for their they got

we need ketones high for their they got chemo tomorrow. They can't afford to say

chemo tomorrow. They can't afford to say go fast for 48 hours. They don't have

go fast for 48 hours. They don't have the time. So let me help you. And

the time. So let me help you. And there's nothing better than going into

there's nothing better than going into that chemotherapy, going into that

that chemotherapy, going into that radiation to with a bunch of

radiation to with a bunch of antioxidants and circulation coming

antioxidants and circulation coming right out of your liver.

right out of your liver. >> Explain why that matters. I mean, I've

>> Explain why that matters. I mean, I've got a photo here of her.

got a photo here of her. >> Grandma Rose.

>> Grandma Rose. >> Grandma Rose.

>> Grandma Rose. >> Yeah. That's my mother. Yes. She is the

>> Yeah. That's my mother. Yes. She is the reason I'm here.

reason I'm here. It's been five years. [snorts] Yeah.

It's been five years. [snorts] Yeah. 2015. the the most stubborn patient

2015. the the most stubborn patient walks through the door after 10 years of

walks through the door after 10 years of the best health care I know how to give.

the best health care I know how to give. And she's gray and she looks like a

And she's gray and she looks like a zombie

zombie and she's got big lymph nodes in her

and she's got big lymph nodes in her neck. You don't need to be a doctor to

neck. You don't need to be a doctor to know that

know that she's dying. Her cancer was back again.

she's dying. Her cancer was back again. And we go to see the oncologist uh and

And we go to see the oncologist uh and he says, "You need chemotherapy." And

he says, "You need chemotherapy." And she says, "Why Cal, the last two times

she says, "Why Cal, the last two times you did that to me, I didn't know what a

you did that to me, I didn't know what a sewing machine was."

sewing machine was." And she made all of my clothes until I

And she made all of my clothes until I was the age of 10.

And she's nervous because she has 6 months to live if we don't do something.

months to live if we don't do something. And she asks me a question that

And she asks me a question that [snorts] lots of patients have asked me

[snorts] lots of patients have asked me this question. I just sometimes lie.

She said, "If it was you, what would you do?"

do?" That's a really emotional question

That's a really emotional question because there's guidelines. There's the

because there's guidelines. There's the rules. Here's what you're supposed to do

rules. Here's what you're supposed to do as the doctor

as the doctor when it's your mom.

And I have I saw what chemotherapy did to her. It was terrible.

to her. It was terrible. She didn't know the grandkids. She It

She didn't know the grandkids. She It was terrible. And we just got her back

was terrible. And we just got her back to functional again.

And so I said I had been reading about the ketogenic diet on brain injuries and

the ketogenic diet on brain injuries and I'd come across a couple of studies on

I'd come across a couple of studies on what it can do to a cancer patient,

what it can do to a cancer patient, especially an insulin driven cancer

especially an insulin driven cancer patient like she was.

patient like she was. I said, "Mom, do you trust me?"

I said, "Mom, do you trust me?" I'm like a fool.

I'm like a fool. She said with my whole life.

We were standing there in the in the waiting room of the hospital. Well, one

waiting room of the hospital. Well, one way was to schedule the chemotherapy and

way was to schedule the chemotherapy and the other way was the front door.

the other way was the front door. Said, "Mom, let's get in the car

Said, "Mom, let's get in the car together."

together." I left my car there. I drove to my

I left my car there. I drove to my family farm, which was 100 miles away,

family farm, which was 100 miles away, and explained to my mother what a ketone

and explained to my mother what a ketone was. And her brain wasn't working right,

was. And her brain wasn't working right, so she didn't quite remember.

so she didn't quite remember. And we went to the house. We threw out

And we went to the house. We threw out every carbohydrate. And man, at 6 weeks

every carbohydrate. And man, at 6 weeks with chemotherapy, her numbers were

with chemotherapy, her numbers were supposed to drop by 30% of her cancer.

supposed to drop by 30% of her cancer. We didn't tell the doctor. We just put

We didn't tell the doctor. We just put her on a ketogenic diet and said, "We'll

her on a ketogenic diet and said, "We'll come back in 6 weeks." So, she's walking

come back in 6 weeks." So, she's walking through the door of the hospital. It's 6

through the door of the hospital. It's 6 weeks from there. And it is like God has

just the Holy Spirit is rising out of her. She looks amazing.

So, we go to get her blood drawn. We're sitting in the waiting room for the for

sitting in the waiting room for the for the cancer doctor. And he's my friend.

the cancer doctor. And he's my friend. He knows he's known me for 10 years. So,

He knows he's known me for 10 years. So, I'm scared to tell them what we're about

I'm scared to tell them what we're about to do.

to do. So, we're sitting in there waiting and

So, we're sitting in there waiting and they come and draw our blood again,

they come and draw our blood again, which either means it's really good or

which either means it's really good or it's really bad.

it's really bad. And so, I get really nervous at the end.

And so, I get really nervous at the end. We've been in that room for about an

We've been in that room for about an hour and I said, "Mom, if he asks you

hour and I said, "Mom, if he asks you what you're doing, just shut up cuz I

what you're doing, just shut up cuz I don't know what to tell him."

don't know what to tell him." And he walks in and he slides the piece

And he walks in and he slides the piece of paper over to me and says, "How did

of paper over to me and says, "How did you get her numbers to drop by 70%.

you get her numbers to drop by 70%. There's no drug on the market that would

There's no drug on the market that would do that.

do that. >> When you say numbers,

>> When you say numbers, >> her cancer numbers, so the chemo would

>> her cancer numbers, so the chemo would have dropped it by 30% and the ketogenic

have dropped it by 30% and the ketogenic diet dropped it by 70%. In 6 weeks

diet dropped it by 70%. In 6 weeks and she went from a 70-year-old that

and she went from a 70-year-old that looked 100

looked 100 to a 75year-old who looked 40.

>> How did your your mother get on from that point onwards?

that point onwards? >> Yeah, she she lived her best life. I

>> Yeah, she she lived her best life. I mean, I talk about her being from this

mean, I talk about her being from this little town of 800 people. She was Mary

little town of 800 people. She was Mary Poppins. I mean, like, you don't have a

Poppins. I mean, like, you don't have a lady's aid unless you're part of the

lady's aid unless you're part of the lady's aid in in the little small town.

lady's aid in in the little small town. You don't have a Sunday school teacher

You don't have a Sunday school teacher unless you're doing the Sunday school.

unless you're doing the Sunday school. She was in every aspect of this little

She was in every aspect of this little town. [snorts] And she went back to

town. [snorts] And she went back to doing all of it. and the pandemic hit

doing all of it. and the pandemic hit and there's a thrift store that she

and there's a thrift store that she would volunteer at because well it's

would volunteer at because well it's just a good place to put your time and

just a good place to put your time and [snorts] the community needs it. And

[snorts] the community needs it. And while she was at the thrift store

while she was at the thrift store she got CO

she got CO and her cancer was of the tea cells

and her cancer was of the tea cells which means it's going to be the first

which means it's going to be the first line of defense against CO

line of defense against CO and her her tea cells failed. Some of

and her her tea cells failed. Some of some of the science behind this talks

some of the science behind this talks about how cancer cells often rely

about how cancer cells often rely heavily on glucose for energy, a

heavily on glucose for energy, a phenomenon known as the Wahberg effect.

phenomenon known as the Wahberg effect. The keto diet drastically reduces

The keto diet drastically reduces carbohydrate intake, forcing the body to

carbohydrate intake, forcing the body to produce ketones for fuel instead of

produce ketones for fuel instead of glucose. Healthy cells can use ketones

glucose. Healthy cells can use ketones efficiently. Many cancer cells cannot.

efficiently. Many cancer cells cannot. So in theory, keto could starve tumors

So in theory, keto could starve tumors while supporting normal tissue. And

while supporting normal tissue. And they've done some animal studies that

they've done some animal studies that show it can slow tumor growth in some

show it can slow tumor growth in some cancers especially brain cancers like

cancers especially brain cancers like glimoblastto

glimoblastto >> glyobblastoma. Yep.

>> glyobblastoma. Yep. >> Enhance response to radiation or

>> Enhance response to radiation or chemotherapy in certain models and

chemotherapy in certain models and reduce inflammation and oxidative stress

reduce inflammation and oxidative stress creating less a less cancer friendly

creating less a less cancer friendly environment. However, results are mixed.

environment. However, results are mixed. Uh it may also benefit muscle mass and

Uh it may also benefit muscle mass and weight stability in patients losing

weight stability in patients losing muscle from treatment. may improve

muscle from treatment. may improve energy levels and mental clarity for

energy levels and mental clarity for some people and could reduce insulin and

some people and could reduce insulin and IGF-1 levels, hormones linked to cancer

IGF-1 levels, hormones linked to cancer growth, may improve quality of life when

growth, may improve quality of life when used alongside standard treatments like

used alongside standard treatments like chemotherapy. Um, there's al also a list

chemotherapy. Um, there's al also a list of potential risks which I'll throw up

of potential risks which I'll throw up on the screen. And I guess the summary

on the screen. And I guess the summary here is keto may help by lowering

here is keto may help by lowering glucose and insulin, reducing

glucose and insulin, reducing inflammation, and supporting metabolism,

inflammation, and supporting metabolism, but it can be risky if it leads to

but it can be risky if it leads to malnutrition fatigue or worsen treatment

malnutrition fatigue or worsen treatment tolerance.

tolerance. >> When patients I get a lot of people

>> When patients I get a lot of people calling and saying, "Is it going to help

calling and saying, "Is it going to help my cancer? Is it going to help my

my cancer? Is it going to help my cancer? Stephen, I go back to the same

cancer? Stephen, I go back to the same thing. The amount of trash that you've

thing. The amount of trash that you've not been taking out, we have to start.

not been taking out, we have to start. And when you put them in a ketogenic

And when you put them in a ketogenic state, I mean, it really helped her

state, I mean, it really helped her cancer. It really did that war effect.

cancer. It really did that war effect. She was a a new human within 3 weeks.

She was a a new human within 3 weeks. But she had a lot of trash to take out.

But she had a lot of trash to take out. This was a year and a half before she

This was a year and a half before she got to be the best version of herself.

got to be the best version of herself. And it really did return and restore her

And it really did return and restore her to to health. When I look at patients

to to health. When I look at patients now who say, you know, can is I am I

now who say, you know, can is I am I going to reverse my cancer with a

going to reverse my cancer with a ketogenic diet? I'm like, no, but you

ketogenic diet? I'm like, no, but you are going to deal with it a lot better.

are going to deal with it a lot better. >> I guess that's really what it comes down

>> I guess that's really what it comes down to. It's like creating a better

to. It's like creating a better environment so that if disease does

environment so that if disease does arrive, obviously there is a, you know,

arrive, obviously there is a, you know, with a lot of diseases, there is a

with a lot of diseases, there is a causal element where the way we eat and

causal element where the way we eat and our lifestyle does create the disease,

our lifestyle does create the disease, >> right?

>> right? >> Um, but also when that disease arrives,

>> Um, but also when that disease arrives, what like environment is your body in to

what like environment is your body in to deal with it, to manage it? And I think

deal with it, to manage it? And I think a lot about this I think in part because

a lot about this I think in part because of the pandemic where for the first time

of the pandemic where for the first time in my fairly young life I saw that your

in my fairly young life I saw that your current physiological environment so

current physiological environment so your current the current state of your

your current the current state of your body was the single biggest predictor of

body was the single biggest predictor of your outcomes.

your outcomes. >> Amen. Oh it was terrible.

>> Amen. Oh it was terrible. >> So I think 30 years old and it was like

>> So I think 30 years old and it was like well if you're currently overweight your

well if you're currently overweight your ch chance of dying from COVID is really

ch chance of dying from COVID is really really high. And so I think that was one

really high. And so I think that was one of the big sort of protagonists in me

of the big sort of protagonists in me getting into shape was realizing that,

getting into shape was realizing that, you know, diseases are probably going to

you know, diseases are probably going to happen to me, but how my body responds

happen to me, but how my body responds to it is to be determined. And I look at

to it is to be determined. And I look at how much when you're asking an elder

how much when you're asking an elder person to lose weight. And you just read

person to lose weight. And you just read something really important there, which

something really important there, which is when those ketones are in

is when those ketones are in circulation, it is a signaling agent to

circulation, it is a signaling agent to make more ketones, but it also signals

make more ketones, but it also signals the body to say don't use muscle mass as

the body to say don't use muscle mass as a resource. Go for the fat. So you can

a resource. Go for the fat. So you can see this protective m I mean you take

see this protective m I mean you take people through chemotherapy and they

people through chemotherapy and they have you know they shed way too many

have you know they shed way too many pounds right you put them in a ketogenic

pounds right you put them in a ketogenic state and their muscle mass gets higher

state and their muscle mass gets higher preserved their brain function their

preserved their brain function their ability to handle this you know one of

ability to handle this you know one of life's most enormous fears is death and

life's most enormous fears is death and that mood stability and muscle mass

that mood stability and muscle mass protection because they've got ketones

protection because they've got ketones in circulation boy that's the gift that

in circulation boy that's the gift that they need right now in in high numbers.

they need right now in in high numbers. >> What is um I've heard you talk about

>> What is um I've heard you talk about methylene blue.

methylene blue. >> Oh.

>> Oh. >> For brain health.

>> For brain health. >> Ever done that?

>> Ever done that? >> No.

>> No. >> Oh my goodness.

>> Oh my goodness. >> What is it?

>> What is it? >> Well, it's old as dirt, so nobody's

>> Well, it's old as dirt, so nobody's making money on it. But it is a dye. And

making money on it. But it is a dye. And so if you swallow it, you'll pee blue.

so if you swallow it, you'll pee blue. But it's also a bridge for how to help

But it's also a bridge for how to help mitochondria move fuel along. So, one of

mitochondria move fuel along. So, one of the worst parts, you asked me this

the worst parts, you asked me this question about supplements and I really

question about supplements and I really have a tough time saying which

have a tough time saying which supplements actually get to the cells

supplements actually get to the cells that the patients are looking for.

that the patients are looking for. [snorts] There is a really great fact

[snorts] There is a really great fact about methylene blue that when you

about methylene blue that when you swallow it, it actually was used for

swallow it, it actually was used for malaria treatment or antimmalaria for

malaria treatment or antimmalaria for soldiers and they would check compliance

soldiers and they would check compliance by making sure that their pee was blue.

by making sure that their pee was blue. But when they died at autopsy, they had

But when they died at autopsy, they had blue brains and blue hearts. it would

blue brains and blue hearts. it would dye these organs blue. You say, "My

dye these organs blue. You say, "My gosh, that's so strange." But you know

gosh, that's so strange." But you know what that tells me? It got to the cells

what that tells me? It got to the cells that it was advertising it was going to

that it was advertising it was going to get to. So you look at methylene blue,

get to. So you look at methylene blue, it's supposed to supercharge your brain.

it's supposed to supercharge your brain. And I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've

And I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard this before." So I I read about it

heard this before." So I I read about it and I'm like, "Wow, there's a lot of

and I'm like, "Wow, there's a lot of literature on this." And then I did what

literature on this." And then I did what I normally do, which is, "Well, let me

I normally do, which is, "Well, let me take it for a couple weeks." It was

take it for a couple weeks." It was amazing. It was amazing. Like

amazing. It was amazing. Like I I was floored at how well that little

I I was floored at how well that little turkey worked. So there's no money to be

turkey worked. So there's no money to be made on it. It's a It's been around as

made on it. It's a It's been around as long as dirt, but it's a powerful brain

long as dirt, but it's a powerful brain energizer. Like it helps the mito the

energizer. Like it helps the mito the electrical stimulus of the mitochondria

electrical stimulus of the mitochondria in your brain keep energy high. And

in your brain keep energy high. And especially for like high energy brains,

especially for like high energy brains, I I love it. I I'm like I put that in my

I I love it. I I'm like I put that in my morning morning coffee which is where

morning morning coffee which is where the April Fools joke because nobody can

the April Fools joke because nobody can see in their coffee but they definitely

see in their coffee but they definitely pee blue.

pee blue. >> And do you take creatine as well?

>> And do you take creatine as well? >> I do take creatine. Yeah. Yeah. It's

>> I do take creatine. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. That brain supplement is awesome.

great. That brain supplement is awesome. Do you do

Do you do >> I do but my doctor the other day I think

>> I do but my doctor the other day I think he was suggesting that I might have

he was suggesting that I might have taken too much.

taken too much. >> Why?

>> Why? >> Some liver scan I had and he was saying

>> Some liver scan I had and he was saying that

that >> liver scan or kidney scan?

>> liver scan or kidney scan? >> Kidney scan. That was

>> Kidney scan. That was >> kidney scan. So that's a trick. Don't

>> kidney scan. So that's a trick. Don't don't fall for that. I mean, I've done a

don't fall for that. I mean, I've done a couple of big shows on this where

couple of big shows on this where creatine is what you're going to measure

creatine is what you're going to measure kidney function with. When your doctor

kidney function with. When your doctor checked your kidneys, he probably had

checked your kidneys, he probably had you pee in a cup and check your blood.

you pee in a cup and check your blood. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, he's looking at what did you

>> Yeah. So, he's looking at what did you pee out and what how clean is your

pee out and what how clean is your blood? That's what kidneys do.

blood? That's what kidneys do. >> He just did a blood test.

>> He just did a blood test. >> Okay. Well, even the blood test, it the

>> Okay. Well, even the blood test, it the trash was looking like it was a little

trash was looking like it was a little higher because the trash we're measuring

higher because the trash we're measuring is creatine, creatinin, uh, and which is

is creatine, creatinin, uh, and which is made from your supplement. So, you put

made from your supplement. So, you put the supplement in and it looks like

the supplement in and it looks like there's more trash around, but That's

there's more trash around, but That's just the supplement. It's falsely

just the supplement. It's falsely elevated. It's not true. You your

elevated. It's not true. You your kidneys did not get hurt by that. This I

kidneys did not get hurt by that. This I answer this question probably 30 times a

answer this question probably 30 times a week. I have a standard email saying,

week. I have a standard email saying, "Here's what happened. Don't measure

"Here's what happened. Don't measure that." There's other ways he could have

that." There's other ways he could have measured your kidney that would not have

measured your kidney that would not have been manipulated by that supplement. Uh

been manipulated by that supplement. Uh what it does for brain function,

what it does for brain function, especially if there's any ADHD, man,

especially if there's any ADHD, man, they love it. They they just focus for a

they love it. They they just focus for a long period of time. I mean, it's got

long period of time. I mean, it's got other great findings like if you how how

other great findings like if you how how often do you fly over to London?

often do you fly over to London? >> I fly alone.

>> I fly alone. >> Yeah, that's the best part about it is

>> Yeah, that's the best part about it is that the the the jet leg part of it.

that the the the jet leg part of it. There's really good studies on this.

There's really good studies on this. Like your reset of sleep is going to be

Like your reset of sleep is going to be augmented if you take like 20 grams of

augmented if you take like 20 grams of it after the flight, 10 in the morning,

it after the flight, 10 in the morning, 10 at night. Uh and those are great

10 at night. Uh and those are great studies like you [clears throat] know,

studies like you [clears throat] know, Navy Seals sleepdeprived.

Navy Seals sleepdeprived. Watch what happens when you add

Watch what happens when you add creatine.

creatine. >> A lot of women don't take creatine

>> A lot of women don't take creatine because they've historically thought of

because they've historically thought of it as like a bodybuilder thing,

it as like a bodybuilder thing, >> right? It's a brain thing.

>> right? It's a brain thing. >> And you take creatine every day.

>> And you take creatine every day. >> How much do you take?

>> How much do you take? >> So, two scoops.

>> So, two scoops. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Every single day.

>> Every single day. >> Every single day. Seven days a week.

>> Every single day. Seven days a week. >> I put my methylene blue in it, too. Down

>> I put my methylene blue in it, too. Down at first thing in the morning. I got

at first thing in the morning. I got blue dyed creatine.

blue dyed creatine. I mean, those two supplements are just

I mean, those two supplements are just they they blew my mind with the amount

they they blew my mind with the amount of research out there. And then I did

of research out there. And then I did them. Uh I mean, I'm not a big

them. Uh I mean, I'm not a big bodybuilder. I do some CrossFitty kind

bodybuilder. I do some CrossFitty kind of stuff three times a week. Um, so

of stuff three times a week. Um, so there's that, but I do it for the brain

there's that, but I do it for the brain stuff. The brain stuff is really

stuff. The brain stuff is really impressive.

impressive. >> At the moment in society, people are

>> At the moment in society, people are talking a lot about JLP1s and a Zmpeek

talking a lot about JLP1s and a Zmpeek and all this kind of stuff. And um, I

and all this kind of stuff. And um, I was wondering if there's any harms or

was wondering if there's any harms or downsides in your view of using these

downsides in your view of using these amp WGO JLP1 protagonists

amp WGO JLP1 protagonists >> antagonist agonist.

>> antagonist agonist. >> Agonist agonist. And if there's a

>> Agonist agonist. And if there's a natural version for those of us that are

natural version for those of us that are looking to have less cravings,

looking to have less cravings, um, but we don't want to take GLP1s. We

um, but we don't want to take GLP1s. We don't want to be injecting ourselves.

don't want to be injecting ourselves. >> Yeah. So, those hormones are powerful. I

>> Yeah. So, those hormones are powerful. I mean, you if you think that weight loss

mean, you if you think that weight loss isn't a hormonal problem, uh, show up at

isn't a hormonal problem, uh, show up at a medical clinic that that they are

a medical clinic that that they are powerful hormones that hijack people

powerful hormones that hijack people into a healthier uh, or at least a

into a healthier uh, or at least a weight loss stage. But when you're

weight loss stage. But when you're looking at using this powerful hormone,

looking at using this powerful hormone, okay, and use it for a short time, use

okay, and use it for a short time, use it for a long time. What are the rules?

it for a long time. What are the rules? These are brand new. One of the

These are brand new. One of the analogies I use for patients is, uh,

analogies I use for patients is, uh, Stephen, if you wanted to have legs with

Stephen, if you wanted to have legs with no hair on them, how would you

no hair on them, how would you accomplish that?

accomplish that? >> Shaving them,

>> Shaving them, >> right? Because that would be short-term,

>> right? Because that would be short-term, easy, and reversible. You would not take

easy, and reversible. You would not take chemotherapy, the most powerful,

chemotherapy, the most powerful, amazing, they'll be every hair on your

amazing, they'll be every hair on your body will be off in the next two weeks.

body will be off in the next two weeks. and it's short term they'll come back

and it's short term they'll come back but there's a price to pay when you're

but there's a price to pay when you're using a really powerful unit to do

using a really powerful unit to do something for a vanity reason. So it's

something for a vanity reason. So it's where I like to begin when I talk about

where I like to begin when I talk about GLP1s.

GLP1s. It's it's amazing. You will lose fat and

It's it's amazing. You will lose fat and >> what do I do instead then?

>> what do I do instead then? >> So there's great ways to lower GLP1s or

>> So there's great ways to lower GLP1s or great ways to raise GLP1s, right? Uh for

great ways to raise GLP1s, right? Uh for starters um when you're overweight it

starters um when you're overweight it suppresses it a lot. So getting the

suppresses it a lot. So getting the weight off is a huge part of it. That's

weight off is a huge part of it. That's why this ketogenic diet is so powerful.

why this ketogenic diet is so powerful. Will get the weight off and that will

Will get the weight off and that will lift naturally the GLP1s.

lift naturally the GLP1s. >> Is there other ways to suppress um well

>> Is there other ways to suppress um well suppress I was going to say suppress my

suppress I was going to say suppress my appetite but more to just get rid of the

appetite but more to just get rid of the cravings?

cravings? >> Well, you'll suppress the appetite by

>> Well, you'll suppress the appetite by raising those hormones. So you put in

raising those hormones. So you put in alulose. That's a great little boost to

alulose. That's a great little boost to that. You put in butyrate. Whether or

that. You put in butyrate. Whether or not that's the bug that you were talking

not that's the bug that you were talking about or the supplements, butyrate

about or the supplements, butyrate increases and stimulates GLP1

increases and stimulates GLP1 >> and butyrate just for for those that

>> and butyrate just for for those that might not know that word again,

might not know that word again, >> right? That's a that is what a ketone

>> right? That's a that is what a ketone looks like floating around your blood.

looks like floating around your blood. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> Yeah. Uh so a ketogenic state will raise

>> Yeah. Uh so a ketogenic state will raise those hormones and suppress appetite.

those hormones and suppress appetite. >> I've seen a bunch of studies on that

>> I've seen a bunch of studies on that that show that when people are high in

that show that when people are high in >> ketones,

>> ketones, >> ketones, they have a a suppressed

>> ketones, they have a a suppressed appetite,

appetite, >> right? And that is linked to the

>> right? And that is linked to the production of some of these hormones,

production of some of these hormones, these really great hormones. But you

these really great hormones. But you make them naturally. And so it's not the

make them naturally. And so it's not the addiction part, it's the natural way to

addiction part, it's the natural way to make it. I

make it. I >> I do find that anyway. I find that when

>> I do find that anyway. I find that when um I guess it could be something to do

um I guess it could be something to do with my dopamine receptors as well in my

with my dopamine receptors as well in my brain, but I find that when I'm in a

brain, but I find that when I'm in a ketogenic diet, my cravings for the

ketogenic diet, my cravings for the things that I once craved, like I don't

things that I once craved, like I don't know, like carrot cake or cinnamon

know, like carrot cake or cinnamon rolls, they just completely seem to

rolls, they just completely seem to vanish.

vanish. >> That's the same thing that happens when

>> That's the same thing that happens when you give them that shot too.

you give them that shot too. >> Oh, really? When you give them JLP1?

>> Oh, really? When you give them JLP1? >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Okay. And I mean the beautiful part is

>> Okay. And I mean the beautiful part is you're young. You'll make a lot of GLP.

you're young. You'll make a lot of GLP. You've already made healthy GLP-1.

You've already made healthy GLP-1. You'll hijack and suppress it by being

You'll hijack and suppress it by being overweight and high insulin. So

overweight and high insulin. So constantly delivering ketones to your

constantly delivering ketones to your blood, that's how you keep it high and

blood, that's how you keep it high and you don't end up on the shot, which is

you don't end up on the shot, which is expensive and very powerful. I always

expensive and very powerful. I always think, you know, when we give people

think, you know, when we give people advice on things like weight loss,

advice on things like weight loss, >> there's always a part missing, which is

>> there's always a part missing, which is this part about like discipline and

this part about like discipline and motivation or whatever one might call

motivation or whatever one might call it,

it, >> which is the is gives somebody the sort

>> which is the is gives somebody the sort of activation energy to even stick to

of activation energy to even stick to it. Do you think about this much in your

it. Do you think about this much in your patients? You talk about motivation.

patients? You talk about motivation. >> It's huge. I mean, again, most people

>> It's huge. I mean, again, most people show up because there's been a recent

show up because there's been a recent crisis. Somebody died, they had a

crisis. Somebody died, they had a diagnosis, something broke, they didn't

diagnosis, something broke, they didn't repair well. All of that is true and I

repair well. All of that is true and I can get them motivated for a little

can get them motivated for a little while. And then we have the long game

while. And then we have the long game and you look at that story with a

and you look at that story with a hundred days of sardines. Okay, that's

hundred days of sardines. Okay, that's two years into her journey where she

two years into her journey where she finally says, "Okay, there's this demon

finally says, "Okay, there's this demon that keeps coming about and I keep

that keeps coming about and I keep falling off for all the wrong, you know,

falling off for all the wrong, you know, all the reasons everybody else does."

all the reasons everybody else does." And so she commits to this 100 days and

And so she commits to this 100 days and what happens is a whole bunch of things

what happens is a whole bunch of things go right. Her hormones go up and she was

go right. Her hormones go up and she was has an amazing story. But most people

has an amazing story. But most people are not going to do that. So, in my

are not going to do that. So, in my practice, I do say these the smallest

practice, I do say these the smallest dose of these hormones, I'll help you

dose of these hormones, I'll help you when you're struggling. I want you in a

when you're struggling. I want you in a ketogenic state before we we begin. I

ketogenic state before we we begin. I can use much less that hormone. And then

can use much less that hormone. And then you have ownership of this because if I

you have ownership of this because if I come in and do all of the work again,

come in and do all of the work again, that's like every other thing I've been

that's like every other thing I've been doing for the last 20 years. Here's your

doing for the last 20 years. Here's your symptom. Here's my diagnosis. Here's the

symptom. Here's my diagnosis. Here's the prescription. And I need it to be you

prescription. And I need it to be you that succeeds here. I'll lift you a

that succeeds here. I'll lift you a little bit. So what do you is there any

little bit. So what do you is there any tricks to get someone to be motivated?

tricks to get someone to be motivated? Is there any do you have to focus them

Is there any do you have to focus them on their why?

on their why? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Exactly right. You're right. Uh

>> Yeah. Exactly right. You're right. Uh that that first trick is get out of

that that first trick is get out of crisis mode. Okay. Crisis is what brings

crisis mode. Okay. Crisis is what brings them in. But to stay the course, you

them in. But to stay the course, you have to get to a very serious moment

have to get to a very serious moment where you say, "What? What motivates me?

where you say, "What? What motivates me? What at the deepest heart am I most

What at the deepest heart am I most insecure about that I'm going to do when

insecure about that I'm going to do when all else fails? When everybody else

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know, the best one. I'm going to carry that insecurity with me until the day I

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I was reading about what happened to you in 2011 2010 2011 when you reached what

in 2011 2010 2011 when you reached what you you referred to as your breaking

you you referred to as your breaking point of corporate medicine.

point of corporate medicine. >> Yeah. And you had some issues because

>> Yeah. And you had some issues because you were, I think, helping some people

you were, I think, helping some people who were homeless.

who were homeless. >> Yep.

>> Yep. >> What What do I need to know about that?

>> What What do I need to know about that? And how has that shaped you?

And how has that shaped you? >> Corporate medicine has lots of flaws and

>> Corporate medicine has lots of flaws and you get tired of answering the same

you get tired of answering the same question over and over and over again.

question over and over and over again. So, you put some stuff up on YouTube and

So, you put some stuff up on YouTube and you start to say, "Here's the education

you start to say, "Here's the education I wish I could give you." Uh, and this

I wish I could give you." Uh, and this starts to work, but that's not the

starts to work, but that's not the that's not the path. If you're into

that's not the path. If you're into corporate medicine, you're going to

corporate medicine, you're going to ruffle feathers. You're going to tick

ruffle feathers. You're going to tick people off. [gasps]

people off. [gasps] I left corporate medicine, started my

I left corporate medicine, started my own thing, and I'm living out a two-year

own thing, and I'm living out a two-year non-compete. Do you know what that

non-compete. Do you know what that means?

means? >> But you can't do medicine for two years

>> But you can't do medicine for two years >> in that same market where they recruited

>> in that same market where they recruited me and they had advertised for me.

me and they had advertised for me. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> Okay. So, you can't compete with what we

>> Okay. So, you can't compete with what we just put money into for two years. And

just put money into for two years. And they said, "You can see the homeless and

they said, "You can see the homeless and you can see Medicaid." Medicaid being

you can see Medicaid." Medicaid being the like government funded med medicine

the like government funded med medicine program,

program, >> low income. So I said, "They don't know

>> low income. So I said, "They don't know me very well. Those are just as much my

me very well. Those are just as much my people as anybody else. I'm taking care

people as anybody else. I'm taking care of some Native Americans. They were the

of some Native Americans. They were the ones in the shelters. They're the ones

ones in the shelters. They're the ones of the low income. And those teenagers

of the low income. And those teenagers were overweight and they were eating

were overweight and they were eating kitty litter. They were eating toilet

kitty litter. They were eating toilet paper. Their iron was so low the machine

paper. Their iron was so low the machine couldn't measure it. So they're super

couldn't measure it. So they're super malnourished." I started doing what I

malnourished." I started doing what I would do if you had all the money in the

would do if you had all the money in the world. I took care of these patients. I

world. I took care of these patients. I gave them IV iron.

gave them IV iron. >> She gave them iron, which

>> She gave them iron, which >> was expensive. It caused a ruckus. I got

>> was expensive. It caused a ruckus. I got put on the radar of somebody that did

put on the radar of somebody that did not like that. So, this is a budget. The

not like that. So, this is a budget. The whole state gets a budget for how much

whole state gets a budget for how much you're going to spend on each patient.

you're going to spend on each patient. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> I mean, by expensive, it was like 350

>> I mean, by expensive, it was like 350 bucks per person. That's not that

bucks per person. That's not that expensive,

expensive, >> but [clears throat] it was. And nobody

>> but [clears throat] it was. And nobody else was doing it. And I got a sticky

else was doing it. And I got a sticky note inside an envelope from the state

note inside an envelope from the state capital. Stop doing Cadillac medicine.

capital. Stop doing Cadillac medicine. Yeah.

Yeah. >> So, you you were sued eventually.

>> So, you you were sued eventually. >> Oh, they they call it Medicaid fraud.

>> Oh, they they call it Medicaid fraud. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> They thought I was wasting Medicare's

>> They thought I was wasting Medicare's numbers because I was giving IV iron.

numbers because I was giving IV iron. And I said, "No, I didn't bill for it.

And I said, "No, I didn't bill for it. Bill for it. I paid for it." And when I

Bill for it. I paid for it." And when I paid for the medicine for these

paid for the medicine for these impoverished patients, they said, "Well,

impoverished patients, they said, "Well, that's Medicaid fraud." So, the

that's Medicaid fraud." So, the government tried to sue me for that and

government tried to sue me for that and they lost. But now they're ticked off.

they lost. But now they're ticked off. They've brought me to court and they

They've brought me to court and they lost. And what happened next is a lot

lost. And what happened next is a lot worse. I don't know if you want to hear

worse. I don't know if you want to hear that. You want me to go there?

that. You want me to go there? >> Of course. Yeah.

>> Of course. Yeah. >> Okay. [sighs and gasps]

>> Okay. [sighs and gasps] So, when you are being investigated for

So, when you are being investigated for Medicaid fraud, all income stops.

Medicaid fraud, all income stops. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I have to come home to my

>> Yeah. So, I have to come home to my husband and say,

husband and say, "I just can't I can't give in. I think

"I just can't I can't give in. I think we need to fight this." He said, "Okay."

we need to fight this." He said, "Okay." He he God bless him. He said, "Okay,

He he God bless him. He said, "Okay, let's fight it." Have you ever tried to

let's fight it." Have you ever tried to fight the government? That's very

fight the government? That's very expensive. So they hold off you you when

expensive. So they hold off you you when you're under a Medicaid and fra fraud

you're under a Medicaid and fra fraud investigation, you get no paychecks. So

investigation, you get no paychecks. So we have no paychecks to pay payroll, to

we have no paychecks to pay payroll, to pay house payments, to do anything for

pay house payments, to do anything for about 9 and a half months. Actually, it

about 9 and a half months. Actually, it lasted longer than that. During that

lasted longer than that. During that time, we started doing things like we

time, we started doing things like we sold the lake cabin, we sold the boats,

sold the lake cabin, we sold the boats, we sold the extra car, we sold our own

we sold the extra car, we sold our own house, we moved into a donated RV. You

house, we moved into a donated RV. You moved into a car,

moved into a car, >> an RV. Yep. In South Dakota where

>> an RV. Yep. In South Dakota where there's 50 below zero weather with three

there's 50 below zero weather with three little kids.

little kids. We actually used we took our wedding

We actually used we took our wedding rings in for the last paycheck.

rings in for the last paycheck. I I just can't give in.

I I just can't give in. And then I won. Okay. So, Medicaid fraud

And then I won. Okay. So, Medicaid fraud wasn't there. But in the midst of that,

wasn't there. But in the midst of that, I said I This was when Obamacare was

I said I This was when Obamacare was really happening. and I got asked

really happening. and I got asked [clears throat] to run for US Senate.

[clears throat] to run for US Senate. There's only a hundred of those in the

There's only a hundred of those in the country.

country. I ran for US Senate and I did really

I ran for US Senate and I did really good.

good. I raised

I raised insane amounts of money uh saying I am a

insane amounts of money uh saying I am a doctor that serves the poor. I am a

doctor that serves the poor. I am a physician that runs her own company. Uh,

physician that runs her own company. Uh, I think I am a great voice to send to

I think I am a great voice to send to Washington DC to make policy about

Washington DC to make policy about patience and care

patience and care as opposed to the other opponents.

as opposed to the other opponents. But that same attorney general, his best

But that same attorney general, his best buddy was running against me. And when I

buddy was running against me. And when I am in a mission trip

am in a mission trip uh in the Philippines, that has nothing

uh in the Philippines, that has nothing to do with it, but I was on a mission

to do with it, but I was on a mission trip in the Philippines and um I left a

trip in the Philippines and um I left a petition behind. I don't know how you do

petition behind. I don't know how you do it in London, but a petition means if

it in London, but a petition means if you're going to run for office, you got

you're going to run for office, you got to get some people saying they believe

to get some people saying they believe in you.

in you. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm. >> So, we needed 2,000 signatures. And we

>> So, we needed 2,000 signatures. And we got 6,000 signatures. We submitted them

got 6,000 signatures. We submitted them to the state. We think there's no

to the state. We think there's no problem.

problem. But then the quarterly earnings come

But then the quarterly earnings come back for a campaign raising. And my

back for a campaign raising. And my opponent had about 70 donors at about

opponent had about 70 donors at about $10,000 a pop and had something like

$10,000 a pop and had something like $740,000.

I put my earnings in and they [clears throat] were $780,000.

[clears throat] were $780,000. So I outraised him. You have to report

So I outraised him. You have to report to the government whenever somebody

to the government whenever somebody gives you more than $200. So his donors

gives you more than $200. So his donors are right there on the list.

are right there on the list. My list is empty

My list is empty because the average size of the donation

because the average size of the donation was $45 and they know they can't win

was $45 and they know they can't win with that. I have a grassroots behind me

with that. I have a grassroots behind me and that's when the black cars started

and that's when the black cars started showing up in my life. It sounds like

showing up in my life. It sounds like I've got a tinfoil hat, but it was real.

I've got a tinfoil hat, but it was real. >> The black what?

>> The black what? >> The state card started to show up

>> The state card started to show up outside my house. They started to say,

outside my house. They started to say, "Find something on her."

"Find something on her." And I am the first person in the history

And I am the first person in the history of the United States of America

of the United States of America to be investigated for not witnessing a

to be investigated for not witnessing a signature on those petitions.

signature on those petitions. >> Okay. So, there was these petitions. You

>> Okay. So, there was these petitions. You had to get 2,000 of them signed and you

had to get 2,000 of them signed and you had to witness them. So, you had to be

had to witness them. So, you had to be there when they were signed by people.

there when they were signed by people. >> Well, that's what it says. And you're

>> Well, that's what it says. And you're right. It says, "I bear witness." Uh, so

right. It says, "I bear witness." Uh, so as I'm I left them in my clinic, my

as I'm I left them in my clinic, my staff signed it, the preachers in my my

staff signed it, the preachers in my my clinic signed it, and those signatures

clinic signed it, and those signatures were collected while I was in the

were collected while I was in the Philippines.

Philippines. >> And so you signed to witness them when

>> And so you signed to witness them when you were back from the Philippines.

you were back from the Philippines. >> Right. So I didn't witness them. I just

>> Right. So I didn't witness them. I just vouched that that's my sister, that's

vouched that that's my sister, that's the preacher, I know who these people

the preacher, I know who these people are.

are. >> And so they charged you for they

>> And so they charged you for they realized that you were in the

realized that you were in the Philippines at the time, so you couldn't

Philippines at the time, so you couldn't have witnessed them based on the dates

have witnessed them based on the dates or something. Yep.

or something. Yep. >> And then they arrested you.

>> And then they arrested you. >> 12 12 felonies.

>> 12 12 felonies. >> They give you 12 felonies

>> They give you 12 felonies >> and 24 years in prison.

>> and 24 years in prison. >> That's what they charged you for or

>> That's what they charged you for or that's what

that's what >> they charged me with 12 felonies. Six

>> they charged me with 12 felonies. Six counts for each of the six petitions.

counts for each of the six petitions. Six. Uh so there's 12 felonies. There's

Six. Uh so there's 12 felonies. There's six mistakes, but each mistake counts

six mistakes, but each mistake counts for two felonies. I mean, if you're

for two felonies. I mean, if you're going to make a mistake, there's one

going to make a mistake, there's one felony. When you're trying to make a

felony. When you're trying to make a statement, there's 12 felonies

statement, there's 12 felonies and you're the first one in the history

and you're the first one in the history of the United States of America to ever

of the United States of America to ever have this charge, let alone brought to

have this charge, let alone brought to trial and then found guilty. The trial

trial and then found guilty. The trial didn't happen in my state, my town. It

didn't happen in my state, my town. It happened in the state capital

happened in the state capital where everybody knew that attorney

where everybody knew that attorney general. Everybody knew the opponent.

general. Everybody knew the opponent. >> So they they tried to get you to serve

>> So they they tried to get you to serve 24 years in prison.

24 years in prison. >> Yeah. They sentenced me to 24 years in

>> Yeah. They sentenced me to 24 years in prison.

prison. >> They sentenced you to?

>> They sentenced you to? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> My kids are sitting behind me. I'm You

>> My kids are sitting behind me. I'm You are guilty of 12 felonies and 24 years

are guilty of 12 felonies and 24 years in prison.

in prison. And then he says, "But this stack of

And then he says, "But this stack of papers in front of me might be the

papers in front of me might be the biggest." He'd been a judge for 20ome

biggest." He'd been a judge for 20ome years. And I had patients who had

years. And I had patients who had written in saying, "This is the best

written in saying, "This is the best doctor I've ever seen." I didn't ask

doctor I've ever seen." I didn't ask them to write that. They just sent them

them to write that. They just sent them in.

in. >> That moment when you hear that you're

>> That moment when you hear that you're going to be in prison for 24 months, 24

going to be in prison for 24 months, 24 years.

years. >> Oh god. It is the lowest moment of my

>> Oh god. It is the lowest moment of my life

life because I mean I do not like that the

because I mean I do not like that the that that story cost the state of South

that that story cost the state of South Dakota any money. But I also don't like

Dakota any money. But I also don't like that when you oppose

that when you oppose the the political giants

the the political giants and you stand there with all of the

and you stand there with all of the right intentions that if they need to

right intentions that if they need to find something on you, they will.

find something on you, they will. six petitions and we had a thousand

six petitions and we had a thousand extra signatures.

extra signatures. There was nothing. This was a nothing

There was nothing. This was a nothing for her, but it was enough. And that

for her, but it was enough. And that attorney general said

attorney general said prosecute her to the fullest extent. And

prosecute her to the fullest extent. And I'm not a martyr. I do things that

I'm not a martyr. I do things that aren't right. And if there was a mistake

aren't right. And if there was a mistake that I made, I I would take full

that I made, I I would take full ownership. And to that judge, I made I

ownership. And to that judge, I made I took full ownership

took full ownership that the attorney general was he won.

that the attorney general was he won. I got sentenced.

I got sentenced. >> But you didn't have to serve the 24

>> But you didn't have to serve the 24 years.

years. >> He said, "I'll probate that. Uh I will

>> He said, "I'll probate that. Uh I will suspend that with um the highest number

suspend that with um the highest number of service hours ever in the state of

of service hours ever in the state of South Dakota was 500 community service

South Dakota was 500 community service hours serving the poorest patients in

hours serving the poorest patients in the state." And when he said those

the state." And when he said those words, I thought, "Oh my god, you don't

words, I thought, "Oh my god, you don't know who I am.

know who I am. That's what I've been doing. I was

That's what I've been doing. I was already working in Pineriidge. Well,

already working in Pineriidge. Well, >> how do you how do you feel about all of

>> how do you how do you feel about all of this?

this? >> I mean, I think of it as a test. It was

>> I mean, I think of it as a test. It was a test of I mean, most marriages aren't

a test of I mean, most marriages aren't going to make it through that. If you

going to make it through that. If you got kids, they'll end up in rehab with

got kids, they'll end up in rehab with that much stress.

that much stress. And I didn't want that life. I didn't

And I didn't want that life. I didn't want that to be my

want that to be my ending. I framed it different. I said,

ending. I framed it different. I said, "All right, God, you're testing me.

"All right, God, you're testing me. you're testing to say, "Can I be can I

you're testing to say, "Can I be can I stay true to who it is that you've

stay true to who it is that you've called me to be?"

called me to be?" That

That our marriage was incredibly uh that's a

our marriage was incredibly uh that's a lot of pressure. I mean, I was the

lot of pressure. I mean, I was the number one news story in the whole damn

number one news story in the whole damn state for 3 years running by a mile.

state for 3 years running by a mile. I can't go anywhere without That's her.

I can't go anywhere without That's her. That's her. My parents were ashamed. My

That's her. My parents were ashamed. My kids would say, "This is the woman that

kids would say, "This is the woman that takes me to Haiti. She is Mother

takes me to Haiti. She is Mother freaking Teresa and now she's on the

freaking Teresa and now she's on the front page of a newspaper as a 12-time

front page of a newspaper as a 12-time felon. And your teachers at school say,

felon. And your teachers at school say, "I read about your mom in the

"I read about your mom in the newspaper." I mean, it's

newspaper." I mean, it's it should have crushed me.

it should have crushed me. >> But it didn't.

>> But it didn't. >> It did not.

>> It did not. >> When did your life begin to turn upwards

>> When did your life begin to turn upwards from that point onwards? When was the

from that point onwards? When was the the moment where

the moment where things were

things were >> Well, the first thing is we appealed

>> Well, the first thing is we appealed that to the Supreme Court.

that to the Supreme Court. >> Yeah,

>> Yeah, >> that's where the big legal bills come

>> that's where the big legal bills come from.

from. >> I mean, you're fighting an attorney

>> I mean, you're fighting an attorney general. That's where And the Supreme

general. That's where And the Supreme Court said that that attorney general

Court said that that attorney general abused his power for at least six of

abused his power for at least six of them. And then that judge said, "I'll

them. And then that judge said, "I'll erase all these because of the work

erase all these because of the work you've done." So, the 12 felonies went

you've done." So, the 12 felonies went away during

away during >> all of them.

>> all of them. >> All of them.

>> All of them. I think on the edge of that story, um I

I think on the edge of that story, um I work to resurrect people's health back

work to resurrect people's health back to a place where they they get their

to a place where they they get their best life. And yes, ketones are a really

best life. And yes, ketones are a really big part of that.

big part of that. But as you look at the relationships

But as you look at the relationships you've got around your life, take the

you've got around your life, take the core ones and nurture them to a place

core ones and nurture them to a place where uh your best life comes out of

where uh your best life comes out of those relationships. find that purpose

those relationships. find that purpose that you've been designed for and take

that you've been designed for and take those relationship with you as you seek

those relationship with you as you seek that. I I know that's what happened to

that. I I know that's what happened to me. I cared about the ones on the inner

me. I cared about the ones on the inner circle and I had a one track of this is

circle and I had a one track of this is what I'm designed to do.

what I'm designed to do. We have a closing tradition where the

We have a closing tradition where the last guest leaves a question for the

last guest leaves a question for the next and the question left for you is do

next and the question left for you is do you have a daily practice to find deep

you have a daily practice to find deep inner peace when you are emotionally

inner peace when you are emotionally triggered and if so please share it with

triggered and if so please share it with the audience.

the audience. Yeah, I have a a devotion that I do

Yeah, I have a a devotion that I do every morning that um that centers me,

every morning that um that centers me, keeps me in line with my faith.

keeps me in line with my faith. And it's not that you do it on the bad

And it's not that you do it on the bad days, it's that you've got the

days, it's that you've got the foundation for doing it on the good

foundation for doing it on the good days. And there are generations

days. And there are generations a daily devotion [clears throat] like

a daily devotion [clears throat] like upper room is a is a spiritual devotion

upper room is a is a spiritual devotion for my church.

for my church. >> What What does that look like? Is it a

>> What What does that look like? Is it a prayer or

prayer or >> Yeah, it's a prayer. And

>> Yeah, it's a prayer. And >> And how does that sound? What is

>> And how does that sound? What is >> Yeah, the it's usually a scripture and

>> Yeah, the it's usually a scripture and then it's a prayer that has been paired

then it's a prayer that has been paired with that scripture. And again, it's

with that scripture. And again, it's easy to not do it routinely. But when

easy to not do it routinely. But when you practice it on the good days, it's

you practice it on the good days, it's what lifts you on those really tough

what lifts you on those really tough days.

days. And sometimes you forget you're not the

And sometimes you forget you're not the first person to run through these

first person to run through these problems.

problems. But there are thousands of generations

But there are thousands of generations that have taught you how to do life and

that have taught you how to do life and get through those hard places and I'm

get through those hard places and I'm going to use their rules.

going to use their rules. I'm going to follow what that scripture

I'm going to follow what that scripture says

says and lead for my best life.

and lead for my best life. >> Dr. Boss, thank you.

>> Dr. Boss, thank you. >> Very good.

>> Very good. >> We are done. I really think I really

>> We are done. I really think I really appreciate so much about you. I

appreciate so much about you. I appreciate your personality. Well, I

appreciate your personality. Well, I >> incredibly engaging, but I also just um

>> incredibly engaging, but I also just um I appreciate that you've taken the time

I appreciate that you've taken the time to make so much content over on your

to make so much content over on your YouTube channel, which I'm going to link

YouTube channel, which I'm going to link on screen and below now, um to sort of

on screen and below now, um to sort of demystify and break down some of these

demystify and break down some of these really complicated subjects that people

really complicated subjects that people struggle with, and they're looking for

struggle with, and they're looking for someone who they can trust, who has a

someone who they can trust, who has a bit of personality, um who can

bit of personality, um who can communicate some of these very

communicate some of these very complicated things to them. And on your

complicated things to them. And on your channel, you talk about everything from

channel, you talk about everything from the ketogenic diet to many of the things

the ketogenic diet to many of the things we talked about today to the creatine

we talked about today to the creatine stuff to cancer more broadly, this idea

stuff to cancer more broadly, this idea of autophagy and fasting, um, and lots

of autophagy and fasting, um, and lots of other things. I mean, everything

of other things. I mean, everything we've talked about today and much, much

we've talked about today and much, much much more. So, I highly recommend people

much more. So, I highly recommend people go and check your channel out if they

go and check your channel out if they would like to learn more, it will be

would like to learn more, it will be linked below. And, [snorts] um, you've

linked below. And, [snorts] um, you've written some wonderful books. Um, some

written some wonderful books. Um, some of them that we've referenced, we've got

of them that we've referenced, we've got the Keto Continuum, which I'm going to

the Keto Continuum, which I'm going to link below as well. um this wonderful

link below as well. um this wonderful book called Any Way You Can, a

book called Any Way You Can, a beginner's guide to ketones for life,

beginner's guide to ketones for life, which um talks a lot about Rose and has

which um talks a lot about Rose and has some wonderful photos of Rose in that

some wonderful photos of Rose in that book. And we have the keto continuum

book. And we have the keto continuum workbook, which is a much more practical

workbook, which is a much more practical um

um >> yeah, it goes hand inhand with the other

>> yeah, it goes hand inhand with the other one and it's what I give my patients in

one and it's what I give my patients in the clinic is they got to go through

the clinic is they got to go through that workbook.

that workbook. >> I think a lot of people are looking for

>> I think a lot of people are looking for exactly that. They're looking for

exactly that. They're looking for something that they can follow step by

something that they can follow step by step which gives them a framework for

step which gives them a framework for progress and I guess in in a way holds

progress and I guess in in a way holds them accountable which is exactly what

them accountable which is exactly what the workbook does. Thank you so much.

the workbook does. Thank you so much. You're you're helping millions of

You're you're helping millions of people. You've had a rough ride

people. You've had a rough ride if I'm being like 12 felonies in 24

if I'm being like 12 felonies in 24 years in prisoners for for something as

years in prisoners for for something as as little as what you did I think is is

as little as what you did I think is is bizarre quite frankly. But you know it's

bizarre quite frankly. But you know it's a story of inspiration that it didn't

a story of inspiration that it didn't hold you back and you've risen like a

hold you back and you've risen like a phoenix and created so much incredible

phoenix and created so much incredible work therefore that's benefited so many.

work therefore that's benefited so many. So, please do keep going.

So, please do keep going. >> God bless you. Thanks for having me

>> God bless you. Thanks for having me here. I'm really excited to be on your

here. I'm really excited to be on your show.

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