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foreign people they lazy Rocky is Rocky this is moving like Bollywood
I have same problem my father you don't have nothing my kids they have everything like when you
make Dua what do you ask for I have too much for that I think how I can ask something make at least
minimum I spent in Instagram one hour I I don't understand what you're talking about I was in
Liverpool what are you talking about drink alcohol or eat pork they'll say no no no but what about
riba would there be anything that would bring you back I live this sport alone without myself
it's uh great to have you here how are you doing brother good good yeah
um one of the things I wanted to ask you personally I'm I'm very much into my technology
so this is something that I always want to know about um I guess what what phone to use
uh uh or do you think they're gonna pay me they might do they might iPhone which one honestly I
like uh 13 still 13 yes not 40. not 14 because I don't have time to transfer move move to from
13 to 14 you know it's like we need to get wide to get you the 14 and so the app looks beautiful
I'm gonna check I'm gonna check this this is nice cameras are good but yeah the the transfer can be
can be oh like for using it's very easy easy yeah I know they have like a lot of people like fan of
uh what's the name other one Samsung Samsung LG so many yeah but so many they have like
there's like like friends you know you're a fan of iPhone or how how they call this other other
phone Android Android so your iPhone I am like last 10 years I think maybe yeah last 10 years
since 12 2012. very good so brother Omar here is Android so we can be iPhone team iPhone I've got
both actually yeah Android as well as uh iPhone um the other thing I want to ask you is um we you as
a fighter obviously that's what you are and that's what you're known for who is your favorite fighter
uh when I grew up it was uh two maybe three three my favorite Fighters when I was
16. they was on prime it was fader it was Mauricio Shogun Rua and George simker
okay it was on prime it was like UFC and pride Champions and I was grew up watching their fights
you know nice and when I meet them first it was like very big emotional for me you know
because I grew up with the fights so this this is how we feel a little bit right now because
um Omar who's your favorite fighter mine actually it depends from which hang life
we're talking about MMA I gotta say I think it was probably voice Gracie that changed it for me
um I used to do uh Wing Chun and some mixed martial arts back in day with a brother and
that time UFC was very different yeah it was not big it was not big it was not big it was
not big like Pride that's right Pride was like biggest organization and it was very very mixed
in terms it was for one of a better term it was almost like a circus in terms of people
were coming lots of different times I think it was Pat Smith at that time and Royce Gracie came
in and he changed the face I think because not many people they not don't know how to use like
grappling submissions yeah game you know because he was the first he was a first and it was a lot
of wrestlings and Strikers they fight with uh with him and they was big but they don't have
knowledge so how to deal with his uh Brazilian Jiu Jitsu yeah and he was he was looking amazing
for with these big guys and that was for me was the turning point I think just seeing because the
the submission in the ground the technical ability because it was very new for world
you know like the the way how they show this uh Gracie family toward even if you're small you can
build bigger guys it was it was like big news for everyone around the world even from Russia people
U.S people you know Euro people like everybody they were how Royce crazy came to UFC and he
he make top everyone like doesn't matter if even he bigger than him like 50 kill you know
so um I uh for me it was always Muhammad Ali and um it was because I was very I'm very new
to only last few years when mixed martial arts has become quite popular and I think that's you
know with with yourself behind um a lot of these big fights has got a lot of people interested
into mixed martial arts and you know like when I ask people all the time who is your favorite
fighter yeah like athlete without Muhammad Ali I ask them all the time because everybody for sure
they're gonna say Muhammad Ali okay without Muhammad Ali who else yes well my question
who's your favorite athlete from UK from the UK
that's because you're from UK I'm from UK I'm born in the UK you're born in Leicester and you
don't know nothing about Leicester football we want we won the Premier League and we were that
was the main thing okay I have a question for you God what year what year 2016. okay
because a lot of people when they act like they know something I I I ask them like numbers age
you know yeah then you can understand who is Lester doesn't have much to celebrate so
that one thing that they had we actually have a lot to celebrate have you been celestable never
okay you're gonna have to come down too much I think maybe it's very close to England right no
no no no it's London not England yeah two two hours two hours I'll come and pick you up next
time you learned it let me know no unless that I never been no you wanna be able to come down
Manchester London it's like it's very very close to Birmingham Liverpool I've been in
Liverpool you've been told you've not you have to come to Leicester we have lots of halal food
everywhere we've got so much Burgers I know you like your food by the way okay but what
do you what do you like in particular right now if we ask the team here bring Habib a meal of
his choice what would it be yeah I like chicken chicken I like chicken I like salads and healthy
buggers yes yes like burgers too like depends yeah I don't like it every Burger I like like
high quality high quality and uh and uh soda so right now like last maybe couple days almost week
I cut you cut it I'm I'm with the guys in training camp and you know it's like sometime to deal with
them like for running or for some exercise for CrossFit for conditioning it's like sometimes
you feel heavy you know I'm like okay after a couple days we have one more like this training
yeah I have to cut because I want to look good even yeah because you sometimes you cut soda like
for one week maybe you can lose like a couple like couple kills you know yeah it's so interesting how
like with all these things that you have now even though you're not competing right now you still
have to look after yourself because you're around the brothers who are also training so much it's
it's very important because you have to control yourself all the time I go to scales like okay I'm
a little bit older than one kilo and I'm gonna come back you know I control myself on 93 kilo
93 kilo that's yours yeah I wanna I wanna be on this maybe the next 10 years this is my goal next
10 years not over the 93 killer okay less it's like very hard to keep you know like 88 89 you
have told they can follow diet no good energy you know no sugar no no no sugar no no good energy no
I have to meet a lot of people go train like so many things you have to do and you need
this energy because when you all the Timeless people meet with people they take your energy
all the time you know not many people around me where I can get energy because when you're
famous you give you give all this is giving and sometimes like little bit sugar soda or something
this is give you like Spike some energy you know and it's very hard to do all these like a very
hard to deal with everything whatever around you and same time you have you follow the diet it's
like this is it's a little bit naturally with like stress you know in the camp you're speaking about
I think that's set up now mashallah I think you set up home here I think this month and next month
do you take the role of kind of leader of the camp how do you shape your managing that
um it's like uh because I'm her biggest brother right now yeah all this maybe like one two people
older than me and my our camp right now almost 30 people there here in Dubai and
um yes because I was doing this all my life and I know what they need we have Hotel
we have food we have cars and we have gym and every every single day you wake up
train eat sleep and repeat this is what you need when you have your training camp you know and here
in Dubai uh he treat us like you know amazing this treatment is like on different level and they give
us everything gym like you take care of us like he's kids you know and uh and right now we're
here only because invite us and this has happened last more than three years first time we came here
When I Was preparing for Dustin purified When I Was preparing it was like end of the beginning
of August it was a little bit more than one month because uh before Dustin purified it
was beginning of September here is like very um like crazy weather you have to come if you want
to fight if you want to make weight if you want to recover if you wanna don't feel jetlag you have to
be here 30 days all the time when like when we fight here in Abu Dhabi where we have four guys
in that card 22nd October we have to come here more than month because jet lag is crazy here
like a lot of people underestimate this a lot of people think when you have when okay for example
if you fight in Mexico City like it's like more than 3000 meters Under the Sea you have to go
there one month no worse in desert worse like because we're from Mountain we can we can fly
to Mexico and fight like in the mountains it's easy but because we're from Mountain for us it's
like very hard to deal with uh desert desert weather and all the time I came here we have
like at least two weeks uh jet lag yes is that like your capacity for taking oxygen is better
I had not known for us for all of us not only for me everybody complained about here like
jet lag they cannot sleep very hard like you know like two weeks they've they feel like not
okay and now now we're already here 10 days and we're gonna be here one more month and one month
before the fight it's like it's perfect days to recover to finish your jet lag to make weight
everything you know even here to sweat it's very hard a lot of people here come no no this is not
bad you cannot go outside and make weight this is It's don't work like this you have to you have to
be here inside the building and there is like so many conditions you know like and no oxygen and a
lot of people have problem to make weight yes I know this because I was talking with around the
world like with a lot of Fighters who who came here and make way they all have difficult time
so you came here from from the UK directly or were you in the restaurant and then came here
so the same depending which way you traveled from does that make a difference ah doesn't
matter where you can it's always it's always same for everybody I know like a lot of people
now looking for most of the fighters who's gonna fight 22nd October they're gonna come seven or
ten days before the fight after seven days or ten days this is like your Peak for jet lag okay and
there is a lot of people underestimate you like even like when I fight with uh just engaging yes
I am like I was following when this guy gonna come here and he come like Saturday and next
time Saturday you're supposed to fight with me it's like I'm like no next Saturday it's gonna
be worse for him and during the fight I was talking with him and I tell him yeah just like
he said no no not yet like but I know you know he feels like a lot of people underestimate Jen like
when you travel so much you realize because it's not only the time it's also the environment and
as you were saying like the Heat and everything um one of the things I'm interested to know is
before you know before you were at this level you didn't have like you know you were saying you've
got the house now you've got you know everybody together you've got access to all of this stuff
does that make it does that help training or does that because you you have watched Rocky
movies you know how on Rocky 3 like when he's got everything he's he's not training as hard
and there's like people cameras everywhere and then when he's training on the you know the Rough
Side he's like does it make a difference does it make it easier or is it a bit more challenging
right now if you want to become champion and if you want to compete in a high level you need so
many things around you uni first of all you need good people right people who have good knowledge
we have good energy we have good experience and they can share with you second of course you like
if you compared Inside the Cage you have to spar inside the cage at least like couple times in
week you have to feel cage you cannot just spot inside the ring and come to UFC and Inspire like
every single every single moment is gonna uh is gonna give you a hard time you know you've never
spot in a cage how are you gonna deal if someone put you on cage you know if someone pressured
you you have to defend from take down against against a cage this is a little bit different
I can say uh like open much is different ring is different and that's why you have to you need all
this treatment you know you you have this is like Rockies Rocky this is movable you know like even
like you haven't like okay Indian movie yeah Bollywood Bollywood dude do you watch anything
who's your favorite actor I'm gonna put you in this one something like this yeah like this is
this is like uh this is real this is real life yeah this is not movie you know yeah it was my
first time when I see cage and when I compete in cage it was my debut in UFC but before in Russia
I never compete I never trained in cage never okay and first time it was like very new you know
it was very difficult to deal you know this is different angles different views different energy
you know you have to feel it you have to feel it and you need good technology what the cutting
weight yeah yes and because all UFC fighters they cut like minimum maybe like 10 kilo 10 kilos and
they don't have too much white you know like for example if someone fight okay if some fight in
lightweight 155 but right now he's weighed like 180 and you have to cut 25 pounds and it's like 25
pounds it's like not easy you know and everybody doing this like for example Charles he's big too
he's like tall big huge you have to cut weight and him and he and you you cannot train in uh Forest
yeah come out from forest and make weight you know this is like you have to stay focused you know you
you were saying earlier about the the kind of cycle and um the regime one of the better term
I think regime is good because it's very kind of repetitive and it's reminding me of that saying
from Bruce Lee goes don't worry about the person who can do a thousand kicks but the person who's
practiced the king a thousand times and then actually from a business perspective just kind
of bring in there's a there's a really good book called The Tipping Point and he talks about why
is it some people become well known or they become successful versus other people and what the book
said is ultimately it comes down to practice and the the magic number is something like 5
000 hours believe it or not or doing the same thing and from your point of view when you talk
about training Etc is it just that repetition repetition um that will get you to that level
you know I was like I was doing same thing all my life stability stability if you don't
have stability if you don't recover between the trainings you're never gonna become success on
I talk about MMA mixed martial arts you know you have to train every day you have to do same thing
sparring grappling wrestling running like Meats back every single day like you cannot
like if you fight it you cannot sing and come to inside the cage and win now you have to do
same thing every single day and so many years so many years so many years you know you have
to sacrifice everything what you have and a lot of people I know like a lot of athletes
they become boring because like they need something new but when you little bit move
like from your way you're gonna lose because you have to be on one way all the time every single
day and every single day same thing exactly exactly same same thing like guys ask me
like oh how you become like good Grappler good top Control Racing conditioning I was racing every day
like one hour non-stop one hour can you imagine with new new new new new opponents one hour and
then when you finish you go do some exercise lifting running bikes work with Coach like
it's it's you know and between trainings you need to recover what is this recovery a lot of
people don't understand what is this recovery a lot of people call it like massage straight
you know like you know supplements like for me recovery sleep sleep yeah yeah most important
things between trainings like at least two three hours all my life I was like date time day time I
was sleeping like from uh maybe 11 to 1 maybe 12 to 2 maybe two to four you know between trainings
you have to say because you train so hard money two hour a night you have to turn two and a half
you need rest you have to race you know a lot of people they use like morning they train go work
because most of the people they have to make money you know not not every Fighters can like just
don't work you know and they have to they they not focused they're working training it's meant 50 50
no if you want to make money okay go to work but if you wanna sacrifice your life and become the
best no you cannot walk you have to race between trainings and night time you have to be fresh
on training if I ask you a question in terms of percentage this is a question people are saying in
every field actually you know this term nature or nurture so how much of anything that you do is the
person's natural ability versus the training so you know any sport I'm sure it's the same question
how much of it is a person's natural ability versus how much they put into it so if you look at
someone like Ronaldo versus Messi Ronaldo's known for his training is phenomenal you know would you
say in in this in MMA how much it is because there must be an element that's natural ability
you talk about talent and hard workers yeah yeah no most of the talent people they're lazy right
most of them I made a lot of talent people but they all like I don't want to say 100 but 99
they're lazy because Allah give them this and they think okay okay you know it's like but hard
working when you don't have talent you have to work so hard when you work so hard and sacrifice
your time dedicate like sacrifice you become more disciplined yeah because he knows like like I know
a lot of people athletes they don't trend like maybe six months maybe one year they come to
the gym with same weight and they need like maybe one month to become shape I meet like these people
and but a lot of people if they finish training one year maybe they never come back you know
there is like everybody have different body different like Allah some people give like
some people have like they're very strong some people like they're very smart but no muscles
you know yeah everybody is different you know but most of them Talent people my opinions they lazy
okay but like this you know like from we see so many warriors coming from Pakistan like they're
very strong there's some genetics because like I'm here I'm very slim you know I'm looking at YouTube
big guys I'm here in the middle um I think genetic I think genetic I think mountains I think tough
life yeah and I think traditional traditional our Traditions wrestling everybody wrestle you
know when I when I was grow up like you know sometimes I go with my father to some people
house like like this you know and if I see someone like my age my um uh my size I'm like okay father
gonna make me wrestle with me and this is not only my father like everybody Pakistan if like even in
Street yeah even in straight okay let's wrestle go yeah we're gonna watch who's gonna even in the
jungle is embarrassing everywhere everywhere you have to like you know racing is like traditional
traditional and I think that's why I think that's why even like Maybe one week ago it was uh Mustafa
that is Stanley okay his name he from Turkey he was 92 years old he died like passed away
one week ago he was 92 years old his grandfather move end of the 19th century his grandfather moved
to Dagestan to Turkey and his and he have some some you know like Mustafa ball and he became
wrestler and he become I think three-time world champion a two-time Olympic champion he never lose
he was from that he was from he was wrestling in Turkey but he's he's originally from Pakistan you
know okay like everywhere it doesn't matter even if you move I know a lot of people from
Dagestan they living in UK they're living in the UK and they they kids what they do they wrestle
they go Jiu Jitsu yeah they do some sport you know this is like our traditional I guess it
gives you explosive energy this is because you're moving up then that was really useful in the ring
um but it's interesting because they said that when they did long distance running they found
that the people generally who won they were from a specific Valley in either Kenya or Ethiopia so
it's so not even the whole country it was a very specific area yeah yeah exactly and
I think because of location because Pakistan you guys can search like in map where is Pakistan it
was it was so many so many wars it was like gate like even like their band they they call like like
um if you read like uh uh Scholars from 500 1000 years ago was like they call that bubble
above it's like gate of the gate gate of the gates you know this is uh this is uh this is
Dagestan this is so many wars happened last last 1000 years Non-Stop non-stop or you know people
so tough you know and uh this is why I'm where I'm from you know so you know in Pakistan I'm
interested because you know I had never heard of Pakistan before now everybody knows about
Pakistan have like lots of people started coming in now so many people so many people come like
crazy tourism and last couple years it's like amazing yeah like 10 years ago it was maybe
like very less but right now hundred and hundred thousands people like you know like uh even winter
time winter time is cold but even winter time a lot of people still coming A lot of people do you
like that everybody's coming in right I'm okay why not because people interesting they want to come
they want to feel it what is this like you know so many people come so many people come from around
the world to my gym too you know from Australia from Brazil from us a lot of people come why you
guys come I we don't know we just I just wanted it interesting last 10 years I'm following like
UFC everything I see a lot of people come from Pakistan why so many people you know and they it's
like it's very interesting you know who would you see as a rival region to Pakistan like mashallah
there's a number of different Fighters coming through I mentioned Gracie earlier but South
America seems to have gone a little bit quiet in terms of the number of Fighters coming through and
martial I guess the caucus history gym by seeing a few others where else do you could you think the
next kind of pocket or emergence of Fighters are going to be or who you currently see as
um real Rivals to Pakistani most of them they're gonna come from poor countries
from poor countries you know because Dagestan is not rich rich Republic
in Russia this is like this is I think my opinion most of the people they live in poor life I think
that's why when you live poor life what you need you have motivation you have the way you have to
come out you know and you have to be hungry you know okay here in Dubai everybody happy
everybody lucky everybody Rich you know everybody have good cappuccino every morning yeah you don't
need to do nothing you know and like even in from even from UK you know from UK all fighters they
all poor people yeah they're all like Fighters good Fighters they have they come out like even
learn adverts is current UFC Champion right now he's like a Jamaican from like yeah it's like
he he like I know he come out from hard life yeah you know it's difficult though I mean even now
we're talking about I guess tourism opening to understand it often you see development and kind
of advancement even becoming more wealthier it has uh a negative consequence elsewhere I
remember look my father my father raised me and my brother in his own so my father alhamdulillah and
um I remember there was a certain drive because he used to work very hard you know off to leave
us on our own while he was working and we'd come back and then that kind of drove me to work and
study and so on but now my children because handle I've been working they're not they're
very far removed from the experiences I had and as a parent I'm trying to think okay I want to
give them but it's hard to get that balance you see the door yeah and same time you love your
kids yeah of course yeah same time sometimes love can kill people yeah sometime not all the
time you know sometimes you love your kid you did you give him everything and he grew up like
like I don't know like a vegetable yeah it's like you put here you stay here you put here
it's like you know you have to you you have to teach him how to live you know I have same
problem I have same problem my father you don't have nothing my kids they have everything you
know yeah their father is Rich but my father was like very poor like for me to get money like I
don't know where like my father-in-law they can tell me you want money okay dessert do something
yeah like my kids they can ask me money okay it's true you know and I try to like balance this kind
of situation too but it's very hard it's very hard like same time you love them and you can
give them you know yeah but sometimes I tell like when my kids ask me something I all the
time say not everything like you want yeah it's true like but they don't understand they think
like but you can give us all something like you know it's like you have to put this on the brain
not to like punish them or some not teach them no it's it's very hard this is like right now
like then 20 years ago 25 years ago maybe 30 years ago right now people live in good life
it was it was so many poor people like 30 years ago but right now it's like people like even um
they can go to supermarket and buy something but before it was no Supermarket even even here in
Dubai like my my friend father he said like he he grew up like here like 30 minutes from Dubai
like in Samaria they send them like they send like containers from um from plan you know and they was
waiting for this like maybe one month but today he can go two minutes to supermarket and come back
even having food out of season sounds crazy yeah you could only have something if it's not a season
you can't have it but now everything yeah it was like very big surprise if you see like tomato or
cucumber yeah like in uh January you see this question if you ask someone I guess younger now
if they had the choice of the fame or the money would you reckon they would say manual Fame yeah
manual Fame I think I think Fame may be more dangerous maybe maybe Fame if you're Fame famous
Maybe for me for me it's easy to deal with money even Fame but it was Fame it's very
hard it's more hard for me it was difficult with money okay I can lose money and I can
sleep a lot of people when they lose money they don't sleep they think about this you know but
but when you film you have to deal with this every single second like in your life you deal
with this you cannot go there but money okay if you're not famous and if you have money
it's I think it's this is not because like I like money more than Fame no I for me like a
lot of people they have the weakness you know for me it's very easy to deal with money but
with Fame it's very hard well set this as well you see between mashallah he does the
um influence and you start to see when you've got one million two million three million subscribers
Marshall and so on and I'm sure you've been recognized wherever you go how do you keep that
outside of it impacting you and this website when we talk about the younger generation you
said mashallah that you know hard work people if you're talented they're lazy my experience
as being people who aren't even talented they're lazy now yeah they just you want instant access
like you know without the hard work I want to get to that place you know and it was different
martial art for our children and us but I guess even for yourself another few years between us
is that we did they we didn't have those types of distractions now you've got the world on your
phone in your pocket you know and you suddenly see someone overnight without any real talent
suddenly becoming well known and there are success stories like this and we've got to navigate
through this you know so to yourself yeah so like you know being somebody on social media like it's
there's so many distractions it's like it's it's always you know you got Instagram Twitter people
always hear like I I struggle like to me for you know separating social media and life is very
difficult because it it becomes one thing so it's always a challenge how do you deal with that oh
no I have to we have to live with social media without social media it's very hard
right now you know okay for kids okay my kids like they stay away from phones like maybe this
maybe they still young you know but for me it's very hard to deal where they have to
be stay away from social media you know like I talk about my personal life but for people
okay if you wanna follow something like you have to follow the news what's happening like you have
to be on social media you know but I don't know it's a very hard question like so you know how
and we spend so much time like Instagram maybe one hour a day yeah like at least minimum I spend an
Instagram one hour and what's up for sure four or five hours really maybe four hours it's it's
so embedded and you have to sleep and you have to train and you have to drive and you have to spend
time with family it's like so many things and you have to do with like your business like and only
24 hour there is like you have to make schedule yeah you need schedule you know every single day
I I have my schedule I have even this year this year September October November December every
day I know where I'm gonna be like of course Allah know what's gonna happen tomorrow but I have plan
I have plan fly these tickets I have everything I'm like uh I cannot with without this like you
know sometimes I fly to my Village I still fly back to Pakistan to go to my Village stage switch
off my phone a little bit time maybe three maybe five days one week to come out you know because
this is world now World become very small very small everybody knows everybody connected have you
Incorporated this into how you're helping Mentor is mentoring the right word or training the other
Fighters because you know as you can say your father-in-law he probably didn't have those issues
when he's dealing with you and the other guys but it's a reality now that you do it's part of your
kind of uh development for the other Fighters or you kind of just leave them to it as well
no I have like people like 20 25 people yeah like I try to control them I mean it's like control I
means like give them good advice good because in our team we don't have like this famous this
strong this better this number two this is number five rank we don't have these rules we have like
who if you're older small or like younger guy they at least you know we have these rules yeah
and so many years we don't change this if someone don't like okay he can live okay we don't hold no
but this is not jail you know we don't like hold like nobody and and the ears have because I know
I have this so much experience for them yeah I have this experience energy knowledge I try to
share with them give them talk with them like I do this like every single day morning and night
even right now here in Cape I spend more time with them and uh yeah it's like I think more than coach
like Mentor because we have a head coach like I try to I try to be like Mentor maybe if we
call it like Mentor but I don't like to call my myself like coach because we have Coach I told
like Javier right now we have Javier Mendes head coach I told him like even a couple days ago was
talking he said I don't like this this I say coach please listen I am assistant you're the
boss don't make me boss I'm not the boss you boss if you say hey I cannot deal with this okay then
I come yeah but I know he said no no like I know you're strong but you have to if you don't like no
because you're right like because me and Javier we have very good relationship with all my guys
he have amazing religion but not like with me because I am with him like almost 11
years and that's why he tried to talk from me but I said no no you go straight yes
every day we're in gym if you don't like summer yes and someone have to say someone had to get
up you know like if you don't like something you have to tell I am here to support you you know
and uh it's like you know it's it's not easy it's not easy to think because when you have 30 people
and they all like some 22 some 30 years and they everybody have different yeah views it's it's
become a little bit hard but alhamdulillah we almost everybody like big team we together like
all life and we have one view you know we know why we're doing this for what you know we have the
goal you know teamwork is it's teamwork you cannot be like do any of them think they can take you
do you sometimes remind them that uh take what take you down no right now remind them like
everybody complain about hey you become you too much lifting you become a little bit big
then before you become strong I say this is your problem because everybody cutting weight you know
everybody together before it was like almost same weight right now they're cutting weight
I become again like it's a little bit different and they complain about my weight that must be
nice but who cares this is their problem personal problem yeah but do you find that you know because
you're saying how you your coaches the the coach as well kind of like tries to come through you but
then you're like no Do Your Own Thing do you find like a lot of people treat you differently because
you are Habib so it's like you know I decided him no he said because because all like almost
all team they was with me when I was nobody when I was just start you know they was with me and now
they stay with me we have we respect each other you know we don't kill nobody we don't push nobody
we don't make no but like if you don't want okay leave like even yesterday I was talking with them
it was it was Saturday and everybody complained about they tired what you want all week he was
work hard end of the week if you don't tie it this is good question you have to worry about yourself
but this is Saturday your sixth day you work so hard of course you're gonna Tire it um tomorrow
rest and Monday we're gonna be getting one more training if you don't want to go back to Pakistan
and stay with your mom she gonna give you every day good breakfast you don't do nothing stay there
but if you come here don't complain you want to become best you want to become champion and now
you want to say like you tied it who cares you tired or not nobody cared about you even you if
you're gonna watch fight you just watch fight they walk out inside the cage they fight and they live
you don't know what happened behind the scenes yeah this is not your business nobody cared about
this yeah he was tired he had personal problem family nobody cares you don't know like you just
see how he fight and he go yeah and for this one you have to train so hard if you don't want
somebody go back go back to Pakistan nobody can ask about yourself without you or with you yeah
there is is always going to be Champions with your name this is your choice you want to put
your name there okay work hard no bye bye yeah it's like very simple nothing special
nothing special is probably one of the last areas where there's a direct correlation between
inshallah your hard work and your effort and achievement you know that actually you really have
to have the drive put it in because you can see the difference that it makes when you don't it's
um someone who hasn't trained it's going to be obvious someone who doesn't make the way you know
um and it is what we call a meritocracy like genuinely someone who's good and is put in you'll
see the difference the one who pushes them that little bit more that last five percent the extra
ten percent it'll come through in other fields of work it can be hidden you know if somebody's an
accountant it can be the best accountant doesn't necessarily mean he's that much different to the
other person but I guess Sports is one of those fields that at the end of the day it's just you
and the other person when it's a one-on-one and it all comes down to that moment isn't it
you know whether you if you gave up earlier or you continued fighting pushing struggling and
I don't understand what you're talking about my point is this I'm saying this
that in other types of work you know I have problem with uh do we have different actions
you're a little bit different a little bit different here real UK guy he's really you
travel I am I I spend a lot of us yeah because I can say you can tell it's good because like
U.S because most of the time like I'm in U.S I can't be UK like all these people who is
this they talk I don't understand nothing any accent or is it the way you like they were even
like like I was reading like this different like different English English same same language yeah
but it's different accent accents yeah all the time when I was uh fighting like Active Athlete
when I have with UK TV interview it's very hard it's easy with any language okay but it's always
like this one like what are you doing in London I wanna I wanna catch yeah because because maybe
I guess no I know my English much better than your English UK UK is like a little bit for me I
think it's London London or even I know London and Liverpool is different oh Liverpool is very it's
so different I was in Liverpool like in I go to watch much Liverpool Manchester City like there is
people talk with me what are you talking about I know English but I don't know what you're talking
about yeah they speak English either but it's interesting so so nearby like I'm in Leicester
if you look here the Birmingham accent which is one hour away it's so different so different you
might not even understand I was a couple weeks ago in Birmingham London it's it's like you go to
a different it's completely different place yeah yeah what's in you you're really into football so
what's what's your favorite team oh lit this guy oh sorry we're gonna talk about this okay my point
was this sports or any sort of competition like is one of the last Fields where you can push and test
yourself okay you know you see like other types of work like if I'm if I'm doing this or somebody's
an accountant or someone's doing computer everywhere everywhere you know sport it's a little
bit difficult because you have to push you have to work not with only your brain because in Sportage
with body you know and you have to deal with pain painful you know you when pain comes you have to
be patient keep going you know it's like it's a little bit difficult because because because
physically and mentally you have to work like for example like Finance like economic like technology
like okay you just use your brain I know like traveling everything but this is not same like
when you compete with high level athlete and you try to break your face this is different you know
you have to use your brain and here and you have to use your body and without brain that in body
never gonna win and you have to use both body and brain together and they have to be connection you
know and that's why it's a sporty it's like it's it's even our our Sports martial arts is difficult
you know yeah like football it's very hard it's very hard but nobody tried to break your arm leg
okay leg you can get like some injury but nobody punch you in one fight like 15 times you know
that's why it's it's a difficult sport difficult like personal like me I don't want my kids
like doing like emotional Arts maybe they're gonna do some Olympic uh Sports Maybe some
like a gymnastic or like like mixed martial arts like they were just like punching knees elbow face
they punch your face honestly I want to my kids stay away but they're gonna they're gonna train
for sure but I won't they stay away a little bit from this part do you think she's you didn't mind
anybody's is that what it takes to be a champion having discipline and control over both your mind
and body to become a champion like yourself no you need both yeah 100 you know some people went like
when they become like for example in my team right now I see Islam is physically and mentally
become together because after one month end of the October is going to be 31. 21 is very good age and
physically his experience everything now becomes some people they like for Umar for example I see
like he's almost 27. you see physically he become very good but mentally he's still young he need
like maybe five years more maybe four five years to experience you know okay and when you become 36
your physique mentally you go maybe higher and physically you go here you know and it's very
good time like 30 31 32 when you're physically and mentally you become like like the same you know on
the same level there is this mix it's unbreakable you know if you find a way how to connect yeah
so I wanted to ask also have you taking a slightly different path and I'm very conscious now of how
I'm speaking because you said that the English accent yeah thank you thank you I I feel now yeah
good now you become California guys so um the the intensity and I guess your whole life being
second ventricle being involved in MMA and now alhamdulillah after that you're now more involved
in business Etc have you had to change your mindset in any way or are you kind of just using
the same approach no it's a little bit hard for me because on finance I am not very good on finance
and when I move to business business World there is so many ways where you can make haramani yeah
because there is like uh even you make money Where Are You Gonna Keep this this is this is a hard
question you know and like I'm Muslim and I try to stay away from riba and Reba one of the biggest
sin Allah mentioned in Quran I'm Muslim you know and I try to stay away from this and for me it's
very hard where I keep my money I make some deal make contract or make some business money come
what you gonna do I try I I invest but most of the people like Muslim I talk about Muslim people
they they keep this money in uh like like from Haram way and and they don't even understand they
don't even understand you know even me like some my money is like in a U.S bank account you know
honestly I'm gonna be lucky I'm gonna be happy to keep this in a Halal way you know I know they use
my money they know when you have like one million dollar in your bank account what they do they use
they use this money and uh and they use this like for percentage like whatever but I don't have
alternative like where I'm gonna keep this money I cannot keep them like in my pocket you know and
and uh I want a little bit rush and talk about wash it when what had come to me like what had
people they come to me we meet like almost one and a half years ago we made we sit we talk and
they told me they plan I really like this I really love this because we have same view
we have same uh the same Mission you know and uh it's very important to like me for example
person or like platform like Warhead or other people create some platform where it's gonna
be away from River because riba is like one of the biggest sin and people underestimate this Reba can
kill not couple people they kill all like cities countries you know and that's why it's like I join
with Warhead because they offer and they show me their project they told me what they want I'm like
okay why not I'm always okay for example I have seven years contact with Reebok for example yeah
why I cannot work with Whitehead same thing I can be ambassador of ahead because we have same view
we have same Mission you know and even like um I know a lot of people a lot of people understand
me this a lot of people okay I don't do this don't do this but if you go deep Islamic Finance you're
gonna find a lot of crazy things like what people doing with your money you know 100 maybe you're
absolutely right on that and this has been a big part of our mission it's just to educate people
because they don't know what they don't know and the moment they realized because you lost ask a
Muslim drink alcohol or eat pork they'll say no no no stop for like never but what about the same
thing yes same thing maybe worse it may be worse yeah same thing most of them like they like almost
in same level like killing people yeah yeah Allah mentioned this like almost like same level like
you kill people don't kill people this is not good don't worry about this is not good same
thing almost one of the I mean like seven or ten since he mentioned in Quran like biggest this is
like one of the biggest you know it's the only one in which Allah says him and the prophet saws yes
on the day of judgment you'll be asked to choose your weapon imagine this to fight
Allah and these messenger it's crazy it's it's you know and the thing is I think because most
people can't see the impact of it we don't think of it but that's because to be honest
we in the west are generally the beneficiaries and what I mean by that is you see it's something
that when it's on a state level like you said perfectly City level country level state level
it destroys countries they can't you know imagine someone who's drowning and you're giving them a
hand but instead of pulling them up you're pushing them back in the water that's what rebar does
even if they're productive they make enough money they can't because of the debt they're under and
that's why everybody is completely you know at ease and that was our mission with Whitehead is
to try and provide the alternative away from that allows people to grow their money in a
way that's real economy real service not used for Lending um and on that alhamdul we've just
launched something called White X which is our effectively um private Equity support for startups
and businesses I know mashallah you've invested a number of different businesses but alhamdulillah
you've got a profile that allows you to perhaps speak to people or your name has a value for most
people imagine like someone else a random person didn't understand Pakistan or Malaysia Indonesia
they've got a brilliant idea and and but they just don't have access to money no no access
I know a lot of people like big businessmen uh like uh when they realize what is this riba like
and they have like big contrast they offer like big Banks yeah they want to invest and when they
understand this is riba they say no they say no no only one percent no half person no same thing half
percent or fifty percent no is no Reba is Reba you know and that's why and it's a little bit sad
to understand there is not too many invest companies like who can help billions
Muslim people who want to stay away from River you know I know that in even in Pakistan where
I'm from a lot of people they won't use Halal invest money you know they have good projects
they have good business projects you know like but there is not where they're gonna take inshallah
why this is the plan for this to really try and see to support innovation in a good way and I know
um Eagle FC tell us about this thing you know because this is a big project yeah it's like my
big project you know I use this platform to give young opportunity from Iran around the world not
not only like Dagestan Fighters like around the world give them like opportunity to fight there
and you know give them good way you know this year like end of the day this year like uh November
December October we have like threshold and this is gonna be very big year for iglesi you know in
the day we're gonna make we're gonna sit with all team and we're gonna make like end of the December
Pro Plan to how we're gonna move to next year inshallah and why is it called Eagle FC
oh because it was it was my nickname in USA you know Eagle that's why before us after the jump
I think before right before because my my my name was like my nickname was I try to give like uh
when I just signed with website I thought like the eagle of Dagestan I tried to give the but
yusu told me at that time it was end of the 2011 and they say you have Habib the eagle of dagisan
or magamero is like too big yeah too big please make short just Eagle okay it was no ego yeah
and I would say okay let's go I hope you noticed the eagle that we play the special legal there but
it's you know it's I just wanted to point touched on the point that it's so interesting that you
know about the conversation about rebar it's so normalized especially in the west because it's
just everywhere and people get desensitized to that and they're like oh it's everybody's doing it
it's fine and um that's you know with this podcast as well it's something that you know we're hoping
to educate a lot of people as well that look revise Ruba and you know it's it's great to hear
that you also against it and that's how it should be and you know when Omar when you reach out to
me as well and for a long longest time I was looking it's like where do I put my money where
do I invest my money and having somewhere that's Halal and that's easily accessible is something
that's a really really powerful alhamdulillah yeah I think it was actually a few things that
he touched upon earlier as well maybe speaking is about you know when you do something you do
it properly you you become productive this is another way of looking at it and actually you
know the factors of of growth are either you know Enterprise someone who's a business-minded it's
money or it's land generally you know and what we want to do is have that approach where actually be
productive make your money productive and you should be productive as well this thing that
is I think it's one of like the worst things where a person has the ability to do something
but they don't do it even um the The Lazy believer you know I despise the time when you see the
believer is lazy and the one who's involved in evil is active and very active exactly and then
our money is the same if we don't use it for good the reality is it's going to be used for bad yes
you know and so I guess this is really good one key message definitely is I think we can
take from this discussion is is about hard work it's about if you want to achieve something is
you've got to put in the hours but also I think is interesting you're saying when you spoke about
the in intellect and the physical is actually and this is a chronic messages of actually be
intelligent about it we now I think we're in a space globally where mashallah we have lots of
talent we have opportunity as well and we need to kind of join them up yeah I think in future
inshallah any time time you know you cannot build nothing with couple years it takes even even trees
you put they need like five six years to give us Apple you know you know it's like it's not this
of course and like now that you know you've got Eagle FC you've got lots of different projects
happening so now that you're not competing because you're not there fighting how is
that for you is that like do you miss do you miss competition honestly no no when I miss something
like competition I go to the gym and always silver Apple train you know I spend my energy
there you know yeah like come back go to the cage no I don't miss it because all my life it was on
my hands not inside my heart it was never was inside my heart no um of course I like it you
have to love you what you're doing yes I was like very big fan of sport you know because my goal was
like become the best like become the champion you know it's like like everybody have to do you know
but when Finnish finish and I I really I you know it's like release you know release this
paper release it's it's it's easy it's very easy but if you inside your heart you know to
leave this alone it's very hard it was inside my heart okay bro finish I go do my other things
do you know there's a lot of people obviously ask like you know what would there be anything
that would bring you back like say for example GSP fight never with your mother's blessing
she's like you can do it no nothing no no I I live in this sport alone without myself yeah
that is it's gonna be always some Champions without my name too don't worry it can be
Charles Oliveira it can be Islam or other name after Islam because Islam not gonna be there
all his life short time couple years finish you know this is Sport this is high level sport yeah
I was Champion right now I'm not champion and this is normal yeah you never can be a champion
all like seven years eight years there is like couple years this is your Prime Time finish
bye-bye other you can stay just for make money but you're never gonna be champion when was your Peak
then do you think you look back I think like from 2000 17 to 2001 it was my pick I think maybe since
18 maybe 18 to like three years maybe three four years okay like it was I think like when I watch
back in the days like it was like 18 to 21 it's good it was like I feel power like
like a truck you know like beer you know yes like like Eagle maybe yeah and you're busy
right now I become like elephant still feel powerful but no not like before
good I'm good thank you guys thank you I think it was thank you amazing this case what do you
think yeah I think it's really good it's nice to you just just to chat like nothing too formal
yeah just get to know you a little bit better I did want to do a little quick fire round if you
don't mind like just very quick questions okay so I'll give you two options okay and
you have to pick one or the other okay you're ready for it let's go okay is it the stretches
are happening it's not that type of quick fire yeah okay yes um okay so let's see where the um
okay okay so firstly to your coffee
Android or Apple you see one okay
La Liga or Premier League Premier League English right yes thank you yeah of course
it's best okay nothing close all right before chicken chicken okay Burger steak
okay who's riding archery archery archery no no horse ride horse riding okay Dubai or San Jose
it's from from November to march in Dubai from March to yeah October
Donna uh
gspo DC thank you
like friend fights just I don't know GSP GSP yeah sorry sorry okay they say but yes like brother
friend yeah who's gonna take care of your break of course this PC because people gonna look like
him like oh this guy like school teacher you know yeah but he's yeah he's like double jump yeah but
if people are gonna say sample they're gonna okay this guy is like he's UFC UFC fighter I
I have to be careful you know you can bring with you this year and they're gonna think okay this
guy's cool teacher you know underestimate him you know yeah this is good Imam Shamil or Umar mukhtar
remember from Africa right Libya Libya both maybe but it's not good to choose one who put
this question in here I need to check I didn't put that question both was the right answer
good good answer best finisher submission or knockout submission submission because
because knockout it's not good too it's not good people to like you know damage their brain yeah
but better between submission of Choke choke is better choke is better yeah give him some
sleep rest come back like if a submission can hurt your arms you're helping them yeah yeah so so like
they're so good to see that you're still looking after the other Fighters and that's that's amazing
that you know some people out there I want to kill this person I want to go and hurt them
but you're like that's that's true sportsmanship that you are you're going in there to do a job but
some athletes they deserve get smashed you know they deserve yeah you have to but not most of
them most of them okay this is competition yeah you just wanna like make who who's the best and
that's it this is only competition not nothing personal nothing personal nothing personal Habib
it's uh been amazing it's um you know they say that you know don't meet your Heroes because you
might be disappointed but alhamdulillah it's actually been really good to meet you me and
talk to you and it's really been inspiring um for me especially so alhamdulillah good to hear from
the different aspects all the best for the camp and thank you for the team yes thank you so much
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